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S2 Ep1033: Tom Nichols: The Hollow Opportunists

<div>Marco Rubio was supposed to be one of the only adults in the room, and now he's become a shell of himself executing Trump's unwinding of the US role in the world. Meanwhile, Pam Bondi just can't keep her blubbering sycophancy under wraps. Plus, Mike Waltz's ouster at NSA, our shakedown of Ukraine with a minerals deal, Trump's pettiness is getting lost in the firehose of his revenge, and even the president of El Salvador doubts the criminality of the people ICE is sending to CECOT. Tom Nichols join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/wnR0tGxJQqc?si=LVT1B6d9yqtuORNQ">Tim's interview with Rep. Chris Van Hollen </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/30/us/politics/trump-deportations-venezuela-el-salvador.html?unlocked_article_code=1.D08.z0i7.zLUibyQnfkVu&smid=url-share">NYT's recent story on the deportations to El Salvador (gift) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.substack.com/live-stream/25730?utm_source=post-publish">The link for tonight's AMA at 8pm ET </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 50 min

S2 Ep1032: Tony Blinken: America Alone

<div>For 80 years, the United States built strong economic, military, and political alliances around the world. But in just 100 days, that trust has been dismantled, and our friends are now working without us to forge new relationships. Former Secretary of State Antony Blinken joins Tim to discuss how hard it will be to rebuild after what Trump has done—plus the Biden administration's response to the Gaza protests, and the continuing questions over why Biden did not step aside earlier. And, Alex Wagner joins from Hungary to discuss the mass protests there. Tony Blinken and Alex Wagner join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.msnbc.com/trumpland-alex-wagner">Alex's "Trumpland" podcast</a></li> <li><a href="https://youtu.be/XCxNzFfX8Z8?si=Y08ks62vcmF2WZIB">Tim on Trump's ABC News interview</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 61 min

S2 Ep1031: Joe Weisenthal: Everything Screams Recession

<div>The markets may be hanging in there but they also held strong in early 2020—right up until Covid hit New York. Meanwhile, tariffs are driving consumer confidence down, firms are talking about cutting back on hiring and investments, and Goldman Sachs is predicting that the U.S. will have the highest inflation and lowest growth of any developed economy this year. Plus, Scott Bessent is not a calming influence, and Trump has a real 'War on Christmas' in the works. The Stalwart Joe Weisenthal joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-04-28/the-eerie-calm-in-the-s-p-500?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc0NTk0NTgyMiwiZXhwIjoxNzQ2NTUwNjIyLCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJTVkZPM1FUMEFGQjQwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiIyN0UzOTI3Q0NFRDM0RUZBQjc3MDExMjAxRUQ1NEU1MiJ9.JIMpQvuIGgwwEnw59UY3-_0WTrr6YudXwuHyh6lczL0">Joe and Tracy Alloway's newsletter on how the markets can get things wrong (gift) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/anna-wong-empty-shelves-are-coming-soon/id1056200096?i=1000704869736">Recent 'Odd Lots' pod on the coming empty shelves & the War on Christmas </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/weisenthal.bsky.social/post/3lnnhpmltpk2t">Joe's Bluesky post on the War on Christmas </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 53 min

S2 Ep1030: Bill Kristol: Creepy and Wrong

<div>The Trump administration keeps showing it's sooo tough on immigration that it deported three U.S. citizen children, arrested the wife of a member of the Coast Guard because her visa expired, and perp-walked an allegedly immigrant-concealing Wisconsin judge in handcuffs—instead of showing her the kind of deference Trump received over the course of his four indictments. Plus, the wildly wealthy jackasses behind Trump, the missing cargo ships at the ports, and Scott Pelley at 60 Minutes shows how it's done. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/worst-in-80-years-trump-polling-is-a-disaster-at-100-day-mark/id1794450472?i=1000705191376">Tim on Trump's bad polling numbers for his first 100 days</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/100-days-in-mass-deportation-is-a-failure-fishy-statistics-poll-numbers-incompetent-focus-donald-trump-voters-group">Adrian on a focus group of Latino men in Arizona who are disappoined in Trump</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bulwark-on-sunday-trump-vs-the-judges">Bill's 'Bulwark on Sunday' interview with Ryan Goodman</a></li> <li> <a href="https://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america">Semafor's piece, "The Group Chats that Changed America"</a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 50 min

S2 Ep1029: Beto O'Rourke: Never Lose Hope

<div>Since this country's founding, we have been tested. And the Americans before us somehow stood up and fought the good fight. We can't be the generation that loses it all 249 years into this experiment. But that doesn't mean we can't laugh about the stupid clowns—like Trump showing once again that he has no idea how tariffs work. Plus, RFK's dangerous proposed autism registry is selling a cruel fantasy. And Democrats need to lock down what they're selling and listen to what voters want from the government. Beto O'Rourke joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://betoorourke.substack.com/">Beto's Substack </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://poweredxpeople.org/">Beto's "Powered by People" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://nypost.com/2025/04/23/us-news/alleged-gangbanger-deported-to-el-salvador-was-allowed-into-us-using-cbp-one-app-under-biden-despite-already-being-deported/">NY Post story on the Venezualan stylist, Andry, imprisoned in El Salvador </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/are-there-risks-to-traveling-abroad-now-w-david-pakman/id1794450472?i=1000704757255">Tim's interview with David Pakman about not traveling abroad </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.nyrb.com/products/diary-of-a-man-in-despair">Tim’s book recommendation, "Diary of a Man in Despair" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 60 min

S2 Ep1028: Cory Booker: A National Crisis and a Global Crisis

<div>Donald Trump is trying to foist the worst peace deal in the last 100 years on Ukraine, as he gets repeatedly played by foreign leaders on the world stage. At home, he's turned JFK's "Ask not" upside down to 'Ask what you can do for Donald Trump.' But when will the cowardly law firms or CEOs groveling for a tariff exemption stand up for patriotism, our core constitutional values—and America's better vision of itself? Plus, Tim challenges an 11-year-old block from Twitter's golden era, and Booker shares diet & exercise tips. Sen. Cory Booker joins Tim Miller. </div>

Dauer: 53 min

S2 Ep1027: Jonathan Rauch: Focus On the Corruption

<div>Trump may be brilliant at assaulting us with his daily distractions, but Democrats need to relentlessly target his corruption because that may be his weak spot. He is running the government in a pre-modern way—like it's his own personal piggy bank. And he has replaced rules-oriented bureaucrats with mostly incompetent loyalists who are only there to do his bidding. Meanwhile, Christianity could help heal the country's partisan polarization if it returns to the teachings of Jesus instead of the gospel of Donald Trump. Plus, the constant burden of having to fight the cognitive warfare and sensory overload coming out of the White House. Brookings’ Jonathan Rauch joins Tim Miller.joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/corruption-trump-administration/681794/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB79g2EJBVbjEiEmdkjDCpYk&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Jon's piece on Trump's patrimonialism </a> </li> <li> <a href="http://Jon's%20piece%20on%20Trump's%20patrimonialism">Jon's predictions in 2022 about a Trump second term </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=hycoCYenXls&si=tFCjNsuM5U8q04c4">A Chris Murphy Senate floor speech on Trump's corruption </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/i-commanded-u-s-army-europe-heres-what-i-saw-in-the-russian-and-ukrainian-armies">Mark Hertling piece on the Russian and Ukrainian armies that Tim referenced </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/search-results/?series=yle22-politics-and-culture">Jon's new book, "Cross Purposes: Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781427292988/thehappinesscurve/">Jon's book, "The Happiness Curve: Why Life Gets Better After 50" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/eZHsmb4ezEk?si=fFgBHPV2RsJfT-xw">The opening scene of The Godfather </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 57 min

S2 Ep1026: Michael Steele: Your Voice Matters

<div>Trump and the people around him are trying to weaken our constitutional protections like due process. But the administration is getting rattled, because people see that the Abrego Garcia story is not about the man, but our rights, and because people keep protesting. We have to keep gumming up the works. Meanwhile, why aren't the Chamber of Commerce and other business groups howling while Trump single-handedly ruins our country's global economic status? Plus, our fully-grown SecDef is blaming the deep state for his troubles, even though they involve his wife, his brother, and his phone. And Dear Charleston: Please un-elect Nancy Mace. Michael Steele joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://jrs.net/en/home/">Support the Jesuit Refugee Service here</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-detain-kseniia-petrova-protest-harvard-cancer-research-rcna202180">More on the Harvard scientist being held in ICE detention</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 60 min

S2 Ep1025: Bill Kristol: Hegseth Keeps Proving his Unfitness

<div>Republican senators could have insisted on someone who was even minimally competent to run our military, but because of their spinelessness, we've now got a SecDef who can't resist texting top secret war plans. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court shows it doesn't trust the Trump administration, and judges on lower federal courts have stopped believing what its lawyers say. Plus, Joe Perticone joins from Rome to discuss the passing of Pope Francis. And the uncanny relevance of the American revolutionaries' grievances against King George. Bill Kristol and Joe Perticone joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/19/opinion/naval-academy-speech-censorship.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU8.-Erw.iq8DQdNfd-DB&smid=url-share">Ryan Holiday on the Naval Academy canceling his speech (gift) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://historians.social/@ProfMSinha/114291051482652550">Prof. Manisha Sinha sharing an excerpt from the Declaration of Independence </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 52 min

S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

<div>Sen. Van Hollen showed that Congress actually does have agency, and a federal judge finally scorched the administration in crystal-clear language about how it's violating the essence of our constitutional republic. But the White House is just treating the whole Abrego Garcia affair like it's a joke. Meanwhile, Trump is elevating his own businesses over the nation's, and is quickly adopting the kleptocratic models of Russia and China—while overlooking the fact that the Chinese have maintained a functional and competent government. Plus, children all over the world are going to die because Elon wants our money to go to his companies, and Marco signaled that the big talker who promised to end the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hours is ready to give up and walk away. Anne Applebaum joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/trump-kleptocracy-autocracy-inc/682281/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB42hXdWPZKj0nVzXLsmk8xA&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Anne's recent piece, "Kleptocracy, Inc."</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/04/usaid-doge-children-starvation/682484/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfBwIoTp4u2ORoSiqYrC0vUgY&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">The Atlantic on Trump ending lifesaving humanitarian aid</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/inside-the-mind-of-an-ice-agent">JVL's Triad on the mindset of ICE agents</a></li> <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 49 min

S2 Ep1023: Ben Wittes: Sorry, We Still Have Due Process

<div>The White House is doubling down on justifying its extra-judicial actions around Abrego Garcia by trying to incriminate him in the court of public opinion. But the government still can't take people off an American street and send them to a concentration camp without due process. Plus, Judge Boasberg is not letting Stephen Miller off the hook for defying his order to turn the Salvadoran-bound planes around. And while the administration tries to stir up outrage about one immigrant's marital problems, they admiringly describe the evil, blood-thirsty Vladimir Putin as a good guy. Ben Wittes joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/16/former-cisa-chief-krebs-leaves-sentinelone-after-trump-exec-order.html">CNBC on Chris Krebs leaving his company after being targeted by Trump </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.81.0_2.pdf">Boasberg's probable cause finding to hold the goverment in criminal contempt </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/this-is-what-reality-looks-like-from-inside-trump-world">Tim's 2019 Bulwark piece that he referenced </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://givebutter.com/journalism">Support Lawfare </a> </li> </ul> <div> </div>

Dauer: 57 min

S2 Ep1022: Stephanie Ruhle: Only Trump Is Happy

<div>Manufacturing orders are down, stocks are down, and mortgage rates are up. But Trump and his family are wealthier than they've ever been. He's got his Ponzi-like crypto scheme, his meme coin, and a boatload of big money types showing up at Mar-a-Lago trying to curry favors from him for some cold, hard cash. Meanwhile, Trump is play-acting like he has a strong hand, but he's begging China to make a deal. Plus, the administration is defunding science and our world-renowned medical centers to buy crypto. And the Abrego Garcia kidnapping and imprisonment has touched a nerve in surprising ways. Stephanie Ruhle joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/15/us/politics/chuck-grassley-town-hall-iowa.html">Chuck Grassley getting grilled at town hall over Abrego Garcia</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/elon-musk-children-mothers-ashley-st-clair-grimes-dc7ba05c?mod=hp_lead_pos8">WSJ story on Elon's 'legion of babies,' and their mothers (behind firewall)</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.mediaite.com/news/wsj-drops-shock-expose-on-elon-musks-alleged-attempts-to-impregnate-x-influencers/">Mediaite summary of WSJ piece</a></li> <li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/jonkeegan.com/post/3lmuybx7xqc2p">Bluesky post on the fake gold medallions in the Oval Office</a></li> <li> <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-15/united-air-flags-recessionary-risk-while-keeping-profit-target?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc0NDgyNTM1NywiZXhwIjoxNzQ1NDMwMTU3LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJTVUYwUFpEV1gyUFMwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiIyN0UzOTI3Q0NFRDM0RUZBQjc3MDExMjAxRUQ1NEU1MiJ9.bEKdfEYrOXYvfStgd1wIGT_tv4tlQhM-ygAXubztwcA">Bloomberg on United Airlines having two profit scenarios because of the trade war</a> (gifted)</li> </ul> <div> *The Bulwark Podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp</div>

Dauer: 51 min

S2 Ep1021: Josh Barro: Total Idiocy

<div>Trump & company want to turn us into Taiwan circa 1985. But the brilliant minds behind the idea of intentionally weakening the dollar are prioritizing making America a good place to manufacture rather than a good place to live. If the administration stays on this track, this country will have lower incomes, higher inflation, and weaker buying power—and more expensive beer and tomatoes. Maybe we were better off with Jared there. Meanwhile, in the Rust Belt, some Dems are arguing for a smarter version of tariffs. Plus, Abrego Garcia's union brothers want him home and Trump wants to fight with Harvard. Rep. Chris Deluzio and Josh Barro join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/opinion/tariffs-democrats-mexico.html?unlocked_article_code=1._04.rckr.bFH8FsCgpbRs&smid=url-share">Rep. Deluzio's NYT piece arguing for smarter tariffs </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/10/opinion/trump-tariffs-democrats-free-trade.html">Josh's NYT piece on how Trump is giving Dems a gift with his tariffs </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 73 min

S2 Ep1020: Bill Kristol: Staring Down the Barrel

<div>We are here: Trump is openly defying the Supreme Court while sitting side-by-side with a Latin American strongman who openly mocked our judicial system from inside the Oval Office. Trump so badly wants his one-man rule and Republicans keep helping him, while corporate America keeps trying to get on his good side. Meanwhile, the intimidation is chilling free speech on college campuses and within immigrant communities. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bukele-abrego-garcia-and-red-lines">JVL's emergency Triad from Sunday </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-is-john-roberts-thinking">JVL's latest Triad </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/americas-moral-moment-with-lauren">The latest Focus Group on the fighting mood among Dem voters </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 46 min

S2 Ep1019: David Frum: It's Too Late to Stop the Pain

<div>Trump has effectively imposed a trade embargo on China, which means that after the inventory runs out, American retail will soon dry up. Since Europeans are already bypassing U.S. military contractors to beef up their defense spending —El Salvador is our only ally now— Trump is likely to do something desperate, like firing the Fed chair or seizing Greenland. American presidents decades from now will still be cleaning up what Trump did to this country in 2025. David Frum breaks down the insanity and stupidity of the vision behind the tariffs regime as well as the deep feelings of betrayal in Canada. If globalism means peace, prosperity, and commerce, then let's be globalists. David Frum joins guest host Jonathan V. Last for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/04/the-david-frum-show-rahm-emanuel-treating-friends-like-enemies/682362/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB326LzYrAhH433cQkt6rksI&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">David's new Atlantic podcast </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/04/american-manufacturing-tariffs-trump/682358/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB6ipwUr7Sxl4zZpQFJ3B4m8&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">David on screw manufacturing and the absurdity of Trump's tariffs </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/trump-tariffs-smugglers/682303/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfByHkyd5tPjNdHoi3za_uJZ4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">David on how the tariffs will make smuggling great again </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 52 min

S2 Ep1018: Andrew Weissmann and Patrick Gaspard: Naked Corruption

<div>Just before he paused the tariffs on Wednesday, an unusual spike in activity on the S&P 500 prompted speculation that Trump was orchestrating an insider trading scheme. After the markets closed, he joked with *the* Charles Schwab about how the financier had made $2.5 billion in trades that day. Meanwhile, Trump ordered the DOJ to investigate two former officials he regards as enemies—this comes on the heels of his efforts to intimidate law firms from taking on clients who oppose him. Plus, Trump's long obsession with white South Africans, and do Democrats listen too much to grassroots activist groups? Andrew Weissmann and Patrick Gaspard join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://weissmann.substack.com/">Andrew's Substack</a></li> <li><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lmflzeonbk2y">Rep. Steve Horsford questioning whether the tariff pause was market manipulation</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 79 min

S2 Ep1017: Catherine Rampell: Trump's Tariffmageddon

<div>The White House is pumping out a lot of happy talk about countries wanting to make deals over the tariffs, but the tumult Trump has created has spread to the bond market. And that may be a sign that he has people so spooked about the U.S. economy that our Treasuries are no longer seen as a safe bet. Meanwhile, China has a lot of leverage here and may be using it. Plus, the Democrats' candidate recruiter for the midterms, Colorado's Jason Crow, discusses how to win back working class voters. Catherine Rampell and Rep. Jason Crow join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/04/08/trump-tariffs-economy-trade-war/">Catherine's column, "Who will tell Trump he’s naked?" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/04/04/graham-budget-resolution-parliamentarian-republican-party/">Catherine's column on the Senate GOP tax plan </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/19/opinion/jason-crow-democrats.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-U4.-cRW.6gKeD5l_r8uq&smid=url-share">NYT profile of Jason Crow </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 80 min

S2 Ep1016: Jonathan Cohn and Mark Lilla: Lobotomizing America

<div>When it comes to biomedical research, America is already great. We are the world's leader in the field. But the Trump administration is gutting research and innovation on things like cancer, Alzheimer's, and arthritis—and the amputation of our scientific expertise under RFK, Jr. has been about as thoughtful as the tariffs rollout. Meanwhile, when it comes to the developing budget bill, Medicaid is getting some surprising red state support from people like Josh Hawley. Plus, when people willfully choose ignorance as a way to cope with an uncertain world. Professor Mark Lilla and The Bulwark's Jonathan Cohn join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/ignorance-and-bliss-on-wanting-not-to-know-mark-lilla/21127624?ean=9780374174354&next=t">Mark Lilla's new book, "Ignorance and Bliss: On Wanting Not to Know" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://marklilla.com/">Mark's website </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-next-target-poverty-stricken-kids-hhs-head-start-early-childhood-child-care-education-programs-federal-cuts">Jonathan on Trump's cuts at child-care programs like Head Start </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 67 min

S2 Ep1015: Bill Kristol: The High Cost of Stupidity

<div>Part of the reason for the market bloodbath is because the finance wizzes didn't factor in that Trump would actually do the truly moronic thing he kept saying he would. Their shock over his recklessness is intensifying the crash. Meanwhile, a trio of administration fools trying to defend the tariffs—Lutnick, Bessent, and Hassett—showed there is no grand design to the trade war, White House infighting is getting hot enough that even Elon is subtweeting Trump, and the folks we elected over on the Hill could actually do something to try to stop the market carnage. Plus, new reporting on our government's kidnapping of migrants, Republicans in North Carolina are trying to steal a supreme court seat, and where is JD Vance? Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-american-age-is-over">JVL on the end of the American Age </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/big-backlash-at-big-law-democrats-emhoff-lynch-johnson-katyal-paul-weiss-willkie-milbank">Lauren on the backlash against Dems in major law firms who are bending the knee </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/_QmW99SqBuw?si=XATU00_DG_U4oo0v">60 Minutes segment on migrants sent to the Salvadoran penal colony </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/brutal-new-60-minutes-report-exposes-trump-admin-crimes/id1794450472?i=1000702437349">Tim's 'Bulwark Take' responding to the 60 Minutes report </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/-tJ0CZO4R68?si=EL3w_06FGhzJMj1o">Tim talking with AEI's Stan Veuger about Trump's terrible tariff math </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/115135/the-captive-mind-by-czeslaw-milosz/">The book, "The Captive Mind" by Polish poet Czeslaw Milosz </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 57 min

S2 Ep1014: Adam Kinzinger: Mortal Damage to the American Empire

<div>It's been great to live in America since World War II, but Trump is in the process of blowing up that whole order. Even Canada is looking to lead a new alliance, because how can other countries trust us after voters put the stupidest convicted American back in charge? And never forget that Russia is not on the tariff list—despite the fact that the US does more trade with Russia than a number of other countries on the list. Meanwhile, Trump opted to head to a golf tournament instead of attending the dignified return of the four dead servicemen who were killed in Lithuania. Plus, 9/11 truther Laura Loomer is running the National Security Council and we're still bombing the Houthis. Adam Kinzinger joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://x.com/DSakaliene/status/1907859402222190676">Video of Lithuanians paying homage to the four American soldiers who died in a training accident </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 53 min

S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis

<div>The market plunge is just pure Trump chaos, and perfectly matches his record as a businessman. From his numerous bankruptcies and many failures—including his airline, his casinos, his university, his water, and his steaks—he's been running one long con. And the supposedly smart people who should have known better put him back in power, somehow thinking he would never do something like destroy global trade. Meanwhile, in Michigan, where there have already been job losses directly caused by Trump's tariff war, State Senator Mallory McMorrow announced she's running for the U.S. Senate—saying she's had enough of the leadership and the bullshit in DC. Bloomberg's Tracy Alloway and Mallory McMorrow join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/oddlots">Tracy's Bloomberg podcast, "Odd Lots" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mallorymcmorrow/?hl=en">Mallory McMorrow's Instagram </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/hate-won-t-win-find-your-power-and-leave-this-place-better-than-we-found-it-mallory-mcmorrow/21622109">Mallory's new book, “HATE WON’T WIN: Find Your Power and Leave This Place Better Than We Found It.” </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 67 min

S2 Ep1012: Sam Stein: Elon Is Toxic

<div>Musk was so high on his own supply that he thought he and his money were magic—but Wisconsin voters turned out in droves to prove to him just how toxic his brand and DOGE are. Meanwhile, the Dem base is looking highly engaged as they keep showing up for special elections in numbers Republicans used to deliver in off-cycle races. Plus, Cory Booker's epic filibuster, Mike Johnson gets owned by moms, and China will fill all the vacuums Trump is creating in science, foreign aid, and trade. Sam Stein joins Tim Miller.</div>

Dauer: 55 min

S2 Ep1011: Susan Rice: This Is Bloody Serious

<div>The administration admits it mistakenly sent a Maryland father with protected status to the Salvadoran penal colony—but at the same time, it says the federal courts have no jurisdiction over him because he is now in a foreign country. If some of us have no due process, that opens the door to none of us having due process. Meanwhile, Trump's administration seems hellbent on destroying the U.S.-led world order, Marco Rubio is acting very un-American, and we actually do have long-standing protocols for how a president's national security team should discuss a military strike. Plus, Mother Jones reporters show the absurdity of ICE's assertions about migrant gang membership. Former National Security Adviser Susan Rice, along with Noah Lanard and Isabela Dias, join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/an-administrative-error-sends-a-man-to-a-salvadoran-prison/682254/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB1covuxnN0v6ZwZ0lPHlMus&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Atlantic piece on the Maryland father sent to El Salvador </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-isnt-a-mistake-its-evil/id1794450472?i=1000701686393">Tim's Bulwark Take on ICE's 'mistaken' deportation </a> </li> <li> <a href="http://Tim's%20Bulwark%20Take%20on%20ICE's%20'mistaken'%20deportation">Mother Jones on the shoddy tattoo evidence being used to disappear migrants </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 66 min

S2 Ep1009: Bill Kristol: Stiffen Your Spines, Democrats

<div>If Joe Rogan is the voice in the wilderness on the disappearing of migrants to El Salvador, then the Democratic leadership really needs to rethink its cautiousness. Meanwhile, the Bluffer-in-Chief is musing about a third term and Elon seems to be skirting the law in Wisconsin over an election he claims will determine the fate of civilization. Plus, the tariffs threats are rattling the markets, Trump's gullibility with Putin is coming through loud and clear, and why does JD hate Europe so much? Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.nps.gov/places/robert-gould-shaw-and-massachusetts-54th-regiment-memorial.htm">The Robert Gould Shaw and 54th Massachusetts Regiment Memorial on Boston Common </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/-OS-OE1EcHI?si=fWXYqN5UC_cO5Oxn">Official trailer for the film, Glory </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://x.com/vgescobar/status/1903568455522992411">Texas Democrat Veronica Escobar on the deportations to El Salvador </a> </li> <li><a href="https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2025/03/30/musk-says-destiny-of-humanity-rests-on-wisconsin-supreme-court-race/82705243007/">Elon in a cheesehead</a></li> </ul> <div> </div> <ul><li>*Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Go to <a href="http://surfshark.com/thebulwark">surfshark.com/thebulwark</a> for 4 extra months of Surfshark. </li></ul>

Dauer: 49 min

S2 Ep1009: Amanda Carpenter: Daddy? No, Manny Trump

<div>Trump is siccing the thought police on the Smithsonian, he's got an FBI task force set up to protect Elon's car company, and he's turning random tattoos into gang insignia—unless they're on Pete Hegseth. Meanwhile, Greenlanders did not come to play, Elise Stefanik gets benched, the DOJ won't do its real job, and next week's elections are making Republicans nervous. Plus, courage is contagious—make them come after everybody. Amanda Carpenter joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. Amanda Carpenter joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://handsoff2025.com/">"Hands Off" demonstrations on April 5 </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.ifyoucankeepit.org/">Protect Democracy's "If You Can Keep It" newsletter </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trumps-delusional-plan-to-take-greenland-makes-us-the/id1794450472?i=1000701250159">Tim and JVL on JD and Usha Vance's Greenland trip </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://x.com/HowardMortman/status/1904952409161634006">MTG lashing out at a British reporter </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 59 min

S2 Ep1008: Jon Lovett: A Worst Case Scenario Comes Into View

<div>Trump so far is not delivering on his promised spike in deportations, but he is creating a permission structure where we lock up people without due process in a foreign gulag—and where masked, plainclothes officers in unmarked cars can grab an international student off the street because of her speech. Meanwhile, a Rolex-wearing Kristi Noem is shooting videos in front of people we've turned into hostages, the mainstream media is struggling to respond to the moment, we can't count on judges siding with the Constitution, Republicans refuse to be honest, and far too much of the public is not paying attention. Jon Lovett joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul><li> <a href="https://almanac.upenn.edu/articles/fdr-at-franklin-field-a-rendezvous-with-destiny">FDR's "Rendevous with Destiny" speech </a> </li></ul>

Dauer: 61 min

S2 Ep1008: Michael Weiss, Ben Smith, and Annie Karni: Radioactively Stupid

<div>No matter how hard Republicans try to spin the sharing of top secret military attack plans on an insecure app, the colossal f***up of an administration that claimed it was rooting out incompetence is plain on its face. And while Jeffrey Goldberg told Tim Tuesday that he was mulling over releasing the Signal messages, he went ahead and did so after the administration accused him of lying and sneaking into the Signal group chat. Plus, Russia pretends to agree to a cease-fire, Breitbart kind of grows up, and a new book examines Capitol Hill's craziness—including Trump's control of the House GOP, Nancy Mace's delusions of grandeur, and Schumer's infinite faith in the Republican Party of old. Michael Weiss, Ben Smith, and Annie Karni join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/743988/mad-house-by-annie-karni-and-luke-broadwater/">Annie's new book, "Mad House: How Donald Trump, MAGA Mean Girls, a Former Used Car Salesman, a Florida Nepo Baby, and a Man with Rats in His Walls Broke Congress" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.semafor.com/hub/mixed-signals-media-podcast">Ben's pod, "Mixed Signals" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://bivol.bg/en/tulsi-gabbard-pierre-louvrier.html">More on Tulsi's Vatican trip paid by a Belgian businessman with ties to the Kremlin </a> </li> <li> <a href="http://More%20on%20Tulsi's%20Vatican%20trip%20paid%20by%20a%20Belgian%20businessman%20with%20ties%20to%20the%20Kremlin">Ben's interview with Megyn Kelly at Semafor Events </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/ukraine-was-just-knifed-in-the-back">Phillips O'Brien's Substack piece on the “Black Sea Ceasefire” </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 60 min

S2 Ep1007: Jeffrey Goldberg and Peter Wehner: What's Going on with Our National Security?

<div>Senior members of Trump's Cabinet got caught sharing attack plans—down to details of who they were planning to kill, and with what kind of weapons, while also wishing Godspeed to our soldiers—and now they'll say anything to get out of the jam they put themselves in. Also, JD Vance openly questioned the judgement of the president in front of those very senior Cabinet members. Meanwhile, vengeance has long been a defining feature of Trump, but the habits of his heart have also infected his supporters. And they've become a moral freak show cheering on deportations of families and starving Africans. Jeff Goldberg and Pete Wehner join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB7o39_z27oo86jii39-Qa0g&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Jeff's original scoop on getting texted war plans (gifted)</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/political-enemy-retribution-efforts/682095/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB5ObhV5AAImz7D5eI-actfY&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Pete's piece on Trump's insatiable appetite for revenge</a></li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/1QQqioef19k?si=g0I7pPgnj-q3QvlS">Trump's 1992 interview with Charlie Rose </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 61 min

S2 Ep1006: Live from Phoenix

<div>Bill Kristol joined Tim Saturday in Arizona to rip the atrocious behavior of our government—depriving even lawful Venezuelan migrants of due process, and shipping them off to a mega-prison in San Salvador where they may be being tortured. Any Democratic politician failing to speak out on this is wrong politically, morally, and ethically. Meanwhile, the DOJ is gearing up to charge Tesla vandals with domestic terrorism and Trump sent a Putin fanboy and very useful idiot, Steve Witkoff, to negotiate over Ukraine. Plus, AOC, Bernie, and Bill 2003 vs. Bill 2025. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://time.com/7269604/el-salvador-photos-venezuelan-detainees/">Time magazine piece on the Venezuelans deported to El Salvador </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/ly6YEkHHcX0?si=AFpYwNguzU207UuC">Sam talking with Lindsay Toczylowski, who represents Andrys, the gay barber and Salvadoran prisoner </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1903827649740276104">Photos of Andrys as a barber/makeup artist </a> </li> <li>Call your Democratic senator: <a href="tel:2022243121">202-224-3121</a>. </li> <li> <a href="https://www.immdef.org/">Immigrant Defenders Law Center </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.aclu.org/issues/immigrants-rights">The immigrants' rights division of the ACLU </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 43 min

S2 Ep1005: Michael Lewis: Government Workers Aren't the Corrupt Ones

<div>Trump loves to complain about the deep state while Elon claims he's rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse with all his mass firings. But DOGE should be looking higher up the food chain to target the graft: for example, the South African immigrant whose car company would not have gotten off the ground without the taxpayer money he still collects. In contrast, government workers are mainly mission-driven and they're not in it for the money. Michael's new collection of essays takes a look at some of the characters who populate our federal workforce, including people performing small miracles without fame and glory. Plus, the risk of Trump politicizing economic data and his plan to destroy whatever trust people still have in the government. Michael Lewis—and Sarah Vowell, who profiled a record keeper at the National Archives for the new book—join Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/788713/who-is-government-by-edited-by-michael-lewis/">The new book, "Who Is Government: The Untold Story of Public Service" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trump-is-sending-innocent-people-to-el-salvador-for/id1794450472?i=1000700304849">Tim's "Bulwark Takes" on some of the men taken taken to the El Salvador prison camp </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-deportations-tattoos-bullshit-anuel-aa-dhs-ice">Adrian's "Huddled Masses" newsletter on ICE deportations based on tattoos </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-most-disgraceful-action-by-a">George Conway emergency pod on the Paul Weiss law firm caving to Trump </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/101015/losers-by-michael-lewis/">Michael's book, "Losers: The Road to Everyplace but the White House" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 61 min

S2 Ep1004: Wes Moore: The System Doesn't Work for a Lot of People

<div>Trump is a vessel for frustration over the status quo, but he is not a vehicle for a solution—since he has no idea about how to make things better for anyone besides himself. He's made clear that his personal interests come before the country's, and he's willing to trade away the superpowers that made America the globe's Dream Team. The Democrats need to seize the moment to argue for a smarter, more humane way to do efficiency. Plus, the Maryland governor shares his disgust over DOGE's disrespect of veterans and discusses his commitment to elevating boys and men. Gov. Wes Moore joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://ofboysandmen.substack.com/p/gov-wes-moore-leads-the-way">Richard Reeves on Moore's commitment to help boys and men </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/why-nonwhite-voters-and-young-men-drifted-to-trump.html">New York magazine on David Shor's 2024 election data </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 49 min

S2 Ep1003: Ben Wittes: Putin Makes A Fool of Trump, Again

<div>The Art of the Deal guy gave a master class on how to get worked over by Putin: First, wait around for an hour like an obedient puppy only to have your ceasefire proposal summarily rejected. Then, watch the Kremlin issue a statement that flatly contradicts your claims of what transpired during a phone call on Ukraine. Will there ever be a point when Putin embarrasses Trump so much that he has to defend his manhood? Plus, the possible interpretations of John Roberts's rebuke of Trump, and the administration's sacrifice of even more U.S. power—by silencing the Voice of America. Ben Wittes joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-situation--unilateral-disarmament-in-the-information-wars">Ben's Lawfare piece on Trump destroying the Voice of America </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/beta-trump-gives-putin-the-store">Tim's and Sam's interview with Tim Mak on the Trump-Putin phone call </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/us/politics/trump-ukraine-abducted-children.html?unlocked_article_code=1.5E4.RYLm.WDhoYivNCEsM&smid=url-share">NYT story on the possibly deleted data on kidnapped Ukrainian children (gifted) </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 56 min

S2 Ep1002: Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov: The Cheap Whore at the White House

<div>The fastest growing demographic class in America is billionaires—we've gone from 500 to 2,500 in the past 10 years. And they know the cheapest, easiest way to get richer: Give a million bucks to Mr. Pay-to-Play in the Oval Office. Meanwhile, maybe just maybe POTUS's confidant in Moscow deposited some cash in his Swiss bank account AKA TrumpCoin, and that's why he is working so hard to get Ukraine to surrender. Also, Dems really need to focus on one or two issues to counter Trump's flood the zone strategy: like the threat to Social Security or questioning why Elon is not applying DOGE to his own Tesla subsidies. Plus, young men are the most anxious, depressed, and obese generation in history and we've really got to help them. Jessie Tarlov and Scott Galloway join Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/raging-moderates-with-scott-galloway-and-jessica-tarlov/id1774505095">Raging Moderates podcast </a> </div>

Dauer: 62 min

S2 Ep1001: Bill Kristol: Give Back the Statue of Liberty

<div>Trump is taking liberties with our country's role in the world as a land of hope and opportunity by summarily locking up and deporting law-abiding immigrants—including people with legitimate asylum claims, people here on proper visas, and people with minor errors in their paperwork. And it's all being done with intentional cruelty to convey the message: Don't even think of coming to Fortress America. Meanwhile, his tone-deaf billionaire treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, is mocking Americans for wanting cheap TVs. Plus, Schumer postpones his book tour as Democrats look elsewhere for a fighter, and Trump throws a late-night tantrum about Biden's pardons. show notes: <a href="https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1901416490739347792">White House sizzle reel of immigrants being sent to penal colony in El Salvador</a> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bulwark-on-sunday-with-bill-kristol">Bill's 'Bulwark on Sunday' conversation with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick</a> </div>

Dauer: 52 min

S2 Ep1000: David French: Trump Admits He's Violating the Constitution

<div>Trump & company aren't even attempting to create a pretext for why they're punishing the free speech of political opponents. They are basically confessing in writing to violating the First Amendment. At the same time, the administration claims it's throwing a Hamas supporter out of the country in the name of fighting antisemitism—while giving jobs to the 'right kind' of antisemites. Plus, MAGA turns on Amy Coney Barrett, Trump sees Canada as 'our Ukraine,' and we're looking at a party that is governing like it will never give up power. David French joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/09/opinion/trump-martin-free-speech.html?unlocked_article_code=1.304.VD2F.N3UT0193GPda&smid=url-share">David's column on Trump's attack on the First Amendment (gifted)</a></li> <li><a href="https://x.com/JessicaBRiedl/status/1900206551664656882">Post that David referenced that was retweeted by Jessica Riedl</a></li> <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 66 min

Sam Stein: How Do You Negotiate with Nihilists?

<div>Democrats are stuck with two terrible options: Either facilitating a government shutdown or allowing Republicans to pass a spending bill that would defund D.C.'s police and schools. Meanwhile, CEOs are getting rattled by Trump's tariff and trade-war chaos, a 'Hispanic Hibernation' is leading to job loss, and Marco Rubio is turning Hamas supporter Mahmoud Khalil into a martyr—as the campus free speech warriors go missing. Plus, California congressman Jimmy Gomez joins Tim to discuss how Dems need to finesse their 'relatable' skills, and man up against the billionaire establishment. Sam Stein and Rep. Jimmy Gomez joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/our-brave-president-goes-war-ontario-ford-tariffs-trade-trump-canada">Morning Shots on Puma cutting jobs because of a 'Hispanic Hibernation' </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://tips.hushline.app/to/thebulwark">The Bulwark's tip line </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/mahmoud-khalil-has-rights-dammit-immigration-israel-hamas-october-7-free-speech-antisemitism-columbia">Mona on the Mahmoud Khalil case </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 72 min

Mark Hertling: Aiding and Abetting a War Criminal

<div>Putin has been named a war criminal because of the Russian way of war in Ukraine—bombing Kyiv and other cities, attacking civilians and first aid workers, and destroying infrastructure. The administration's pause on aid and intelligence sharing with Ukraine made the US complicit in those crimes. Meanwhile, Trump does not have any leverage to force Russia to comply with the proposed cease-fire. Plus, the escalating trade war with the EU harms our national security, our allies' hesitancy to share intelligence because of Tulsi, and the South African DOGE bro's laughably absurd attack on Mark Kelly. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-will-ukraine-do-without-us-intelligence-trump-zelensky-putin-war-crimes">Hertling's Bulwark piece on the damage of Trump's pause on aid and intel sharing with Ukraine </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-ukraine-deal-russia-minerals-putin-zelensky">Hertling's Bulwark piece on a frozen conflict in Ukraine </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/77eaxrv7X_8?si=-EYSpBFnixPblaYK">Andrew's interview with Sen. Mark Kelly </a> </li> </ul> <div> </div>

Dauer: 51 min

Will Sommer: Across the MAGA-Verse

<div>To find out what's really going on in Trumpistan, the AP is out and random lifestyle Instagrammers and MAGA conspiracy posters are in. Meanwhile, hothead Dan Bongino couldn't join the FBI until he fulfills his commitments to his podcast advertisers, Seb Gorka—the new counterterrorism chief—is a prank caller, and RFK Jr. resurfaced to ordain beef tallow fries a healthy food choice. Plus, did Elon go to Trump with tears in his eyes, and ask, "Sir, will you buy one of my cars?" The Bulwark's new Senior Reporter Will Sommer joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://substack.com/home/post/p-158806750">Ben Dreyfuss tribute to Kevin Drum</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/jeffrey-epsteins-secrets-with-julie">Tim's 2024 interview with Julie K. Brown about Jeffrey Epstein</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-03-10/donald-trump-jr-and-1789-capital-have-big-plans-for-maga-investing?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc0MTcxMjA3NywiZXhwIjoxNzQyMzE2ODc3LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJTU1dQQzRUMEcxS1cwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiIyN0UzOTI3Q0NFRDM0RUZBQjc3MDExMjAxRUQ1NEU1MiJ9.fEWrV7FFVdI_w2bu7ecTQP3MBssLjA-J0YB0kOzpSAg">Bloomberg story on Don Jr's plans to monetize MAGA (gifted)</a></li> <li> <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%201%3A33&version=NIV">New International Version of Proverbs 1:33 </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 62 min

S.E. Cupp: The Outrage Is the Point

<div>This time around, Trump has dispensed with the ribbon-cutting side of being president—he's just not giving average Americans anything to feel good about. Instead, his administration is defunding the police, freeing criminals, and welcoming home the alleged sexual predator Tate brothers. Meanwhile, Trump is also shrugging off the economic news even as Maria Bartiromo is raising the threat of a recession. Plus, our allies and trading partners are infuriated, and we've officially become one of the bad guys in Ukraine. S.E. Cupp joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-bulwark-on-sunday-march-9-edition">Tim joined Bill for the "Bulwark on Sunday" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bulwark-takes/id1794450472">"Bulwark Takes" on Apple Podcasts </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/this-thing-will-fail">The Noah Smith piece Tim referenced </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 55 min

Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

<div>They end up sounding ridiculous whenever they try—like the treasury secretary saying that access to cheap goods is not part of the American dream. At the same time, Trump’s circle of plutocrats don't seem to mind that the stock market is tanking. And while the administration is cutting Ukraine off from US intelligence to serve up an unjust peace, the Pentagon is on a CTRL-F "gay" delete rampage. Plus, Dems need to skip the kooky TikToks, and the SpaceX rocket explosion was only one part of Elon's very bad day. Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/democrats-trump-address-congress/681914/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB_HGXZE6LlL1kL-nab9Hw4E&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Tom's piece about Dems acting too normal (gifted) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/bEhEMOlqAPo?si=CkX8sfd_Cp3Tch3L">Tim's interview with a reporter in Ukraine </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@skynews/video/7478970207931796758">Clip from French senator's speech calling out Trump and Elon </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@neverwokex/video/7478114465850985770">MAGA hat guy thinking he's gone into the lion's den at Disney World </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/mathewingram.com/post/3ljqvx64z6c2b">Debris from the latest SpaceX rocket explosion reentering the atmosphere over the Bahamas </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 52 min

Neera Tanden and John Fetterman: They're Playing With People's Lives

<div>Donald Trump is hurting the American people. The DOGE cuts are not only waging war on jobs, they're also harming the American public and undermining the safety, health, and economic well-being of everyday Americans. And by cowering to his favorite bully in Moscow, Trump is prepping the US to be a subservient partner of Russia. Plus, John Fetterman joins Tim to share his opposition to the campaigns against both transgender athletes and soldiers, and to chastise Dems for the way they received the POTUS in Congress. Sen. John Fetterman and Neera Tanden join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="http://Fetterman's%20tweet%20after%20the%20Senate%20blocked%20a%20ban%20on%20transgender%20athletes%20%20Fetterman's%20video%20on%20Trump's%20trans%20military%20ban%20%20Fetterman's%20tweet%20after%20Trump's%20address%20to%20Congress%20%20Neera's%20Center%20for%20American%20Progress">Fetterman's tweet after the Senate blocked a ban on transgender athletes </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://x.com/SenFettermanPA/status/1890016129986314546">Fetterman's video on Trump's trans military ban </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://x.com/SenFettermanPA/status/1897344327157960906">Fetterman's tweet after Trump's address to Congress </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.americanprogress.org/">Neera's Center for American Progress </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 57 min

Jim Acosta: Trump Can't Take the Heat

<div>Once upon a time, presidents used to take tough questions from the press, but the current White House occupant can't handle any scrutiny from cantankerous reporters. And on his sad and sulking days, he needs warm and fuzzy Newsmax in the press pool to envelop him with flattery. Meanwhile, the joint session of Congress address has become basically pointless, SCOTUS blocks Trump's usurpation of power by one single vote, and at Trump's behest, the CIA is punishing Zelensky because he won't cooperate with the administration's disinfo campaign. Plus, Democrats need to show voters they are genuinely furious. And if you've thought about running for office, now is the time to jump in—particularly in districts the Dems have tended to ignore. Amanda Litman and Jim Acosta join Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://jimacosta.substack.com/">The Jim Acosta Show</a> <a href="https://runforsomething.net/">Amanda's 'Run for Something'</a> <a href="https://www.rcfp.org/white-house-attempted-shut-out-fox-news-reporter/">When reporters rallied around Fox after Obama White House tried to shut it out </a> </div>

Dauer: 58 min

James Carville and Michael Weiss: The Whole Country Could Go Under

<div>Trump is anti-American and seems to hate this country: How else can his behavior be explained? The tariffs, the austerity, the threat of a default, along with the corruption and grift— it feels like we're at the beginning stage of something that could go very, very bad. Meanwhile, Trump may not have the cards himself on Ukraine. Europe and the rest of the West have the economic might to continue to back Ukraine. And if that coalition maintains a united front, it would have the power to reject a 'peace' deal imposed by the US and Russia. James Carville and Michael Weiss join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/opinion/democrats-trump-congress.html?unlocked_article_code=1.1U4.dMQf.KBfV2d4Wmunj&smid=url-share">Carville's NYT piece on his advice to the Dems (gifted) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://newlinesmag.com/argument/can-europe-back-ukraines-fight-alone/">Michael's piece on Europe backing Ukraine alone </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/djstarrman.bsky.social/post/3ljkzg2qpm223">A Cybertruck getting pelted at the Orpheus parade in NOLA Monday night </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 66 min

Bill Kristol: Kleptocrats and Plutocrats

<div>Trump is trying to chuck the post-WWII order and firmly pivot American foreign policy away from Europe and toward Putin—the poor guy who got dragged into totally-not-a-hoax Russia Russia Russia. And Lil' Marco and Lindsey rushed to defend Trump and JD against Zelensky, who dared to question in the Oval Office whether Putin could be trusted in any ceasefire deal. At the same time, DOGE is putting the lives of malnourished children and pregnant women at risk in the name of cost-cutting while Trump is planning to use taxpayer money to prop up crypto, so he and his cronies can personally profit off it even more. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bulwark-on-sunday-will-things-ever">Sam joins Bill for the most recent "Bulwark on Sunday" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-a-weekend-for-putin">More on the USAID memo laying out Rubio's failure to provide life-saving foreign aid </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 50 min

BONUS EPISODE from Tim's New "FYPod"

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<div>Tim has a new Gen Z podcast, co-hosted by Cameron Kasky. The most recent episode is called "Nazi Parties Aren't Ragers," and features guest Joshua Rush, a former Disney Channel star turned political operative. Covid-19 locked up Gen Z during their formative years, and the GOP offered them a party. Sure, there’s some Nazism mixed in with the drinks, but during a loneliness pandemic, you take what highs you can get. Tim and Cam discuss how Covid helped push Gen Z right. Plus, Joshua Rush defends the activist tactics of Gen Z and explains how— in the face of nonstop nihilism—he still has optimism for the future of America. Joshua Rush joins Tim Miller and Cameron Kasky. show notes <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/s/fypod">FYPod page</a> </div>

Dauer: 83 min

David Frum: Both Pro-Jesus and Pro-Sex Trafficking

<div>Forget the Epstein files hullabaloo. Members of the Trump administration, perhaps at the urging of Barron Trump, seem to have directly intervened to get the travel ban lifted on the Tate brothers, who are charged with rape and sex trafficking in Europe. Meanwhile, a "Keep Christ in Christmas" extravaganza is being planned at the Kennedy Center, where Trump is now chair. Plus, the con behind crypto is going to run out of fools, CEOs are regretting their bet on Trump, Kash wants to run the FBI part-time from Vegas—and the Dems need to try on a little shamelessness and make Trump own the spiraling price of eggs. David Frum joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/maga-likes-andrew-tate/681866/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfBw7hP6bR_mkN4drWaraCavg&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">David's new piece on the Tate brothers (gifted) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/state-department-ukraine/681733/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB-cb8d6EcqtkHle5af4jO9o&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">David's "Cautionary Tale for Trump Appointees" (gifted) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/trump-fbi-pick-kash-patels-vegas-roommate-is-timeshare-tycoon-accused-of-shady-practices">Nevada Independent story on Kash and the Vegas timeshare megadonor </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/kash-patel-fbi-director-start-actions-c3d5d57f">WSJ on Kash's whirlwind start at the FBI </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 47 min

Mike Murphy: The Chinese Own Elon

<div>The not-so-shadow president's largest Tesla plant is in Shanghai, but the People's Republic of China has the pink slip and can take it back at any time. Meanwhile, China—the world's largest automaker—is working hard to eat into our car industry, and Trump, who fooled enough voters that he was a successful business tycoon, is happily talking about killing subsidies in the critical EV market—except for Tesla of course. Plus, bartender AOC is the best AOC, Bezos is one of the biggest corporate welfare profiteers, and Michael Fanone recounts how he dressed down larping Proud Boy trolls. Mike Murphy and Michael Fanone join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.evpolitics.org/">Mike's EV Politics Project </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.hacksontap.com/episodes">Hacks on Tap podcast </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/27/politics/kash-patel-first-week-fbi/index.html">Evan Perez story on Kash's very DOGE demand for a remodeled FBI office </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 68 min

Ruben Gallego and Zerlina Maxwell: Make Them Own It

<div>Republicans are aiming to gut Medicaid to pay for trillions in tax cuts for the richest of Americans, and they're trying to hide it. The Dems need to bring the DC conversation home—hold town halls everywhere, tell voters what would happen, especially in rural MAGA areas where hospitals and trauma centers will close. Meanwhile, Trump is turning chaos at the border into chaos in the streets by having ICE grab people who haven't even committed crimes to pump up his deportation numbers. Plus, Elon's insatiable and scandalous quest for more money, the Dems' evolving media strategy, and how to help maintain mental health during these stressful times. Sen. Ruben Gallego and Zerlina Maxwell join Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://mornings-with-zerlina.simplecast.com/">Zerlina's show on SiriusXM Progress Channel 127</a> <a href="https://zerlinamaxwell.substack.com/">Zerlina's new Substack</a> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/democrats-need-to-learn-to-talk-to-veterans-again">Will Selber's piece that Tim referenced </a> </div>

Dauer: 56 min

Ben Wittes: Who the F*** Are You?

<div>Trump administration lawyers don't know or won't tell a federal judge who is running DOGE because Elon doesn't formally exist as part of the government he is trying to dismantle. And the administration is likely to lose many of the wrongful termination cases involving forest rangers, researchers, and the like—it will end up paying back wages and not save any money in the process. Meanwhile, we are not exactly confident that the FBI under Kash and meathead Dan will thoroughly investigate the recent bomb threat against Never Trumpers and police officers who defended the Capitol on Jan 6. Ben Wittes breaks it all down. Plus, Lawfare has been crushing it, and it's now out with a new podcast about the history of US-Ukrainian relations, hosted by Nastya Lapatina and Tyler McBrien. Ben Wittes, Anastasiia Lapatina, and Tyler McBrien join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/escalation-ep-1-chicken-kyiv/id1472798169?i=1000695516053">Episode 1 of Lawfare's "Escalation"</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/">Lawfare's home page</a></li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nazi-parties-arent-ragers-w-joshua-rush/id1796712102?i=1000695828297">The second episode of the Gen Z FYPod is out!</a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 65 min

Bill Kristol and Jared Polis: Send In the Clown

<div>Trump keeps filling out his administration with the unqualified and the inexperienced, including the recent addition of borderline literate hack Dan Bongino at the FBI. Meanwhile, Trump's Friday night DOD purge was another step in embedding autocracy in our government. Plus, Elon's and Vance's efforts to influence the German elections seem to have backfired. And before the Proud Boy drama and the bomb threat at the annual Principles First conference, Tim spoke with Colorado Gov. Jared Polis about the right way to cut government waste and build more houses—and how the Dems should polish their prosperity messaging. Gov. Jared Polis and Bill Kristol join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-administration-is-sliding-toward">Bill's "Bulwark on Sunday" interview with Bob Kagan </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.principlesfirst.us/principles/">Principles First's "Declaration of Principles" </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 65 min

Adam Kinzinger: It's Starting to Happen

<div>Boos at a Republican town hall in Fulton County, and boos at the White House: We're beginning to see signs of people refusing to be ruled by unelected billionaires, oligarchs and CEOs. This may be the time for Democrats with some heterodox views to run for office. Meanwhile, the supposedly free speech president and his shadow are trying to intimidate people from criticizing them—including a member of Congress and one of Elon's baby mamas. Plus, Trump's advisers seem more worried about Zelensky saying mean things about him than the fact that he wants to hand the spoils to the losing side of the war. Rep. Adam Kinzinger joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/exclusive-rep-garcia-criticized-elon">Tim's interview with CA Democrat Rep. Robert Garcia </a> </li> <li> <a href="http://Sam's%20interview%20with%20FEMA%20chief%20who%20was%20fired%20and%20has%20now%20been%20rehired">Sam's interview with FEMA chief who was fired and has now been rehired </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://americansongwriter.com/grimes-pleads-for-help-amid-childs-medical-crisis-on-x-allegedly-gets-shadowbanned/">Evidence of Elon shadow-banning Grimes </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://adamkinzinger.substack.com/">Kinzinger's substack </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 50 min

David Graham and Pablo Torre: Is Lil Marco a Cuban Communist Agent?

<div>If Marco Rubio was NOT playing the long game masquerading as a patriotic neocon who gets placed in the State Department to then give Russia everything it wanted, what would he be doing differently? Meanwhile, a Democratic version of the Tea Party may be brewing, the tensions between Elon and Russ Vought are likely to pop out, and a psychoanalyst needs to explain Mitch McConnell. Plus, the Saudis are getting their claws in our sports with a LIV-PGA deal and Trump's astonishingly corrupt involvement. And also -- Trump doesn't know ball. Pablo Torre and David Graham join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/800230/the-project-by-david-a-graham/">David's forthcoming book, "The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America"</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2025/02/what-does-the-department-of-education-actually-do/681597/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB8nlZFFHomUxp0HifAgjpgs&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">David's newsletter on the Department of Education</a></li> <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pablo-torre-finds-out/id1685093486">Pablo's podcast, "Pablo Torre Finds Out"</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 60 min

Jared Moskowitz and Zeke Faux: Scams Galore

<div>Crypto should be one of the biggest stories out of the Trump administration, but the crypto guys are really good at making it seem more complicated than it is. Bloomberg's Zeke Faux joins Tim to run down the ins-and-outs, and the players—including the Chinese businessman facing SEC charges who swears the $56 million he gave Trump has absolutely nothing, zero, zilch to do with his case. Meanwhile, we're about to find out how much Republicans really care about the deficit with the coming budget, and the Democrats must not cave. Plus, Elon's crappy math, America would not get anything out of Trump's deal with Russia, and Tuesday's violence in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn. Rep. Jared Moskowitz and Zeke Faux join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/711959/number-go-up-by-zeke-faux/">Zeke's book, "Number Go Up: Inside Crypto's Wild Rise and Staggering Fall"</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-podcast/why-is-this-happening/withpod-crypto-trump-20-zeke-faux-rcna191675">Zeke on Chris Hayes's podcast</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 59 min

Susan Glasser: Giving Away the Store to Putin

<div>Trump is A-OK with all the murder and mayhem Russia has unleashed on Ukraine, and he's making a mockery of all his enablers who claimed he'd do a Reagan-esque kind of deal. Instead, Ukraine wasn't even invited to the "peace" talks, while Trump tries to impose an extortion deal on the Ukrainian people for daring to fight back against the Russian invasion. Plus, the danger to our constitutional system if the main guy in the Oval Office defies a court order, the real live threat to the First Amendment from the White House's lockout of the Associated Press, and the origin story of Trump's obsession with Greenland. Susan Glasser joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/it-took-trump-only-twenty-four-days-to-sell-out-ukraine">Susan's latest New Yorker column</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/welcome-to-fypod">Tim's new Gen Z politics show, "FYPod"</a></li> <li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bulwark-takes/id1794450472">The "Bulwark Takes" feed on Apple podcasts</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/world/americas/trump-migrant-deportation-panama.html?unlocked_article_code=1.x04.b_1o.pa_tLYVDi1vU&smid=url-share">The NYT story on the Panama hotel that Susan mentioned</a></li> <li> <a href="https://www.persuasion.community/p/the-crisis-of-democracy-is-here">Larry Diamond's piece in Persuasion </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 56 min

Bill Kristol: Taking A Wrecking Ball to the Government

<div>Firing air traffic controllers over a busy holiday travel weekend, cutting a veterans crisis hotline, axing and then rehiring people who maintain and keep our nuclear arsenal safe: Musk and his minions aren't trying to "fix" the government. They're trying to make it more susceptible to Trump's personalized leadership. And the MIA Dems need to get out there and throw some punches since the media loves fights. Meanwhile, the US is now more of a problem than a solution on Ukraine, Elon's massive corruption isn't drawing anywhere near the same attention as Hunter/Burisma—and Bill Cassidy could just vote against Kash or delay his confirmation if he's really worried about the FBI. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/putin-is-a-master-manipulator-trump">Bill's 'Bulwark on Sunday' conversation with Eric Edeleman </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://donmoynihan.substack.com/p/doge-mismanagement-principles">Don Moynihan's newsletter that Bill mentioned </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 39 min

BULWARK TAKES: Wrecking Ball TODDLERS Trump and Elon Are Making Susie Wiles' Life HELL

<div>Tim Miller and John Avlon join forces to talk about Trump and Elon's growing relationship, Susie Wiles having to deal with them, and much more.</div>

Dauer: 12 min

Andrew Weissmann and Michael Weiss: Valentine's Massacre

<div>Unlike the cowardly Republican senators who are rolling over in the face of Kash Patel's bald-faced lies, the men and women of the Justice Department are taking their oaths of office seriously by refusing to comply with a blatantly political order to dismiss corruption charges against New York Mayor Eric Adams. Meanwhile, Trump is just over the moon with Vladimir Putin—even though his army is performing quite poorly on the battlefield against Ukraine. Plus, the makeup heir advising Trump on foreign policy, Emil Bove is this moment's cartoon villain, and Pizzagate's Jack Posobiec is somehow inside the administration's inner circle. Andrew Weissmann and Michael Weiss join Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes <a href="https://orangeribbonsforjaime.org/">Support "Orange Ribbons for Jamie" here, formed in honor of Parkland shooting victim Jaime Guttenberg</a> <a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/02/13/zelensky-trump-call-putin-afraid-peace-deal">Details on Zelensky offering Trump a Ukrainian boxer's championship belt</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </div>

Dauer: 56 min

Alex Wagner: The Poster Child for Corruption and Grift

<div>While Elon claims he's storming the government to cut waste, he's also getting himself a big fat check for $400 million from the State Department for Tesla armored vehicles—though administration officials are now trying to hide the grift because the Trump glow does not extend to the weird dude. Meanwhile, McConnell may have voted against confirming RFK Jr, but he's the one who drew up the blueprint for breaking the rules. Plus, the asymmetry in passion between MAGA and the resistance, and Alex's new podcast looks at how people are being affected by the policies and promises of Trumpism. MSNBC’s Alex Wagner join Tim. show notes <a href="https://www.msnbc.com/trumpland-alex-wagner">Trumpland with Alex Wagner</a> <a href="https://www.semafor.com/article/02/12/2025/actually-the-resistance-is-working">Dave Weigel's piece that Tim referenced</a> <a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/02/13/trump-musk-power-maximalist-government">Axios piece that was mentioned </a> </div>

Dauer: 52 min

Carol Leonnig and Robert Putnam: Lies and Moral Obligations

<div>If Republican senators had any shred of dignity left, they'd demand that Kash Patel answer why he brazenly lied under oath to them about the purge of agents at the FBI. Credible sources have come forward to say he was directing the whole thing. Meanwhile, Trump has leveled the playing field so companies doing business overseas can do all the bribing they want. Plus, our modern "boy problem," our genetic wiring to not be loners, and finding a way out of our polarization by seeing we have an obligation to respect and care for other people. Carol Leonnig and Bob Putnam join Tim Miller show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Bowling-Alone-Revised-and-Updated/Robert-D-Putnam/9781508230595">Bob's "Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.joinordiefilm.com/">The documentary about Bob, "Join or Die" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.abebooks.com/9781982129156/Upswing-America-Came-Together-Century-1982129158/plp">Bob's co-written book, "The Upswing: How America Came Together a Century Ago and How We Can Do It Again" </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 68 min

Tom Malinowski: Fight the Power, Dems

<div>The Democratic Party was made for different times, when rules were followed. But to preserve the basic power of Congress, and to prove that the Constitution is worth the paper it's printed on, the troublemakers in the Dem caucus have to get busy fighting over tariffs and a looming budget deal. Besides, Trump's strongest hand is performative outbursts—making threats and pretending he got something in return. Plus, Elon is giving away America's greatness, the EU should call Trump's bluff, and the Democrats should quit chasing donations from the social media companies that broke our democracy. Former congressman Tom Malinowski joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/five-things-democrats-must-do-to-fight-donald-trump-now">Tom's Bulwark piece on how the Democrats should fight </a> </div>

Dauer: 58 min

Bill Kristol: The Law Be Damned

<div>The new administration has been routinely breaking the law, including on Friday when it announced it was cutting funding for universities doing medical research, specifically in violation of legislation passed by Congress last year. And over the weekend, Trump, Musk, and Vance signaled a willingness to ignore court orders—a federal judge on Monday declared that the White House was doing just that in response to his order lifting a freeze on grant spending. Meanwhile, Trump designated himself the Supreme Leader over the Kennedy Center, and also childishly canned the national archivist because she discovered he was hoarding classified documents. Plus, at a time when we could use some decent role models, Jalen Hurts showed what it's like to win without being petty and consumed by grievance. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/how-to-win-the-usaid-fight">JVL's Triad newsletter on how the Dems can win the USAID fight </a> </div>

Dauer: 48 min

Ezra Klein: The Resistance, Back from the Dead

<div>Partly because of the courts and partly because the White House keeps stepping on rakes or trying to break everything, the Dems who were too chill about Trump pre- and post-election have fully moved into 'threat to the Republic' mode. Meanwhile, angry bureaucrats, particularly at the FBI, are digging in. But don't be sanguine because the administration is still trying to take a wrecking ball to the civil service— anything that goes wrong that involves the government though (like that measles outbreak in Texas) they're going to own from here on out. Plus, Trump's dirty energy policy, the challenge of getting his tax cuts through Congress, and Kanye goes all in on Hitler. Ezra Klein joins Tim on the weekend pod. show notes <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Abundance/Ezra-Klein/9781668023488">Ezra's forthcoming book with Derek Thompson, "Abundance"</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/EzraKleinShow">Ezra's show on YouTube</a> <a href="https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/texas-measles-outbreak-gaines-county-public-health-measles-vaccine/">Measles Outbreak Mounts Among Children in One of Texas’ Least Vaccinated Counties</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </div>

Dauer: 57 min

Michael Steele: Gum Up the Works

<div>After the dumbest member of the Senate, Tommy Tuberville, was able to block military promotions for months during the Biden administration, Dems should not back down from slowing the roll of Kash and the other remaining abominable nominees. Meanwhile, more federal workers are going to have to speak up—lawsuits don't make good visuals. The nation needs to see the faces of the men and women who are our public servants. Plus, Elon's poll numbers slip, Trump's Gaza gambit is BS, and who is the new DNC Chair, Ken Martin? Michael Steele joins Tim Miller.</div>

Dauer: 52 min

Ben Stiller: 'Severance,' but Real Life

<div>With Elon's 20-something operatives running the Treasury Department, it's hard not to feel that we've been severed from reality and a better Earth someplace else. Ben Stiller talks with Tim about metaphysics, avoiding politics in public, and advocating for the millions of people displaced around the world. Plus, the origin story of Severance, Adam Scott, John Turturro, and whether the show is a metaphor for life itself. Also, Tim gives a pop quiz, Ben shares his love for the Knicks, and both ponder why there aren't good comedies anymore. Ben Stiller joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx">Watch Severance</a> <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/real-life/umc.cmc.1y0fnrr2v4jqejem8p0qudzfp">The Albert Brooks film, 'Real Life.'</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/DOAihCRr1y4?si=hZArMmaL8hIRCHUF">Trailer for "Real Life'</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/11/magazine/ben-stiller-interview.html?unlocked_article_code=1.uk4.LBf-.sA0L3smS-FP6&smid=url-share">Ben's New York Times interview</a> <a href="https://x.com/YIMBYLAND/status/1886606983245009171">Video of one of Musk's engineers/operatives </a> </div>

Dauer: 63 min

Anne Applebaum: Outside the Rule of Law

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<div>If the Chinese hacked the U.S. government the way private citizen Elon has, it would be a major act of cyber warfare. And since Elon is a government contractor, he's now in a position to make policy calls that benefit his own companies and hurt his competitors—following the Russian oligarch model. We are in a completely lawless realm, and this is likely to continue until he is stopped. Meanwhile, government employees are being forced to choose between conforming or protecting the public. Plus, Elon is also sabotaging America's soft power and influence in Africa while he and the other tech overlords plot how to derail Europe's effort to regulate them. Anne Applebaum joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-government-young-engineers/">Wired article on the young, inexperienced engineers helping Elon </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/trumps-collaborators/612250/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfBzoajAOzRX2rBeOWMNYa9W4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Anne's 2020 piece about complicity (gifted) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/musk-cronies-dive-into-treasury-dept-payments-code-base">Josh Marshall's piece about Elon's operative *already* rewriting code at the Treasury Department </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/115135/the-captive-mind-by-czeslaw-milosz/">Book Anne mentioned, "The Captive Mind" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/03/musk-tech-oligarch-european-election-influence/681453/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB_FsELSUxRl43E3sZ5baVYc&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Anne's piece, "Europe's Elon Musk Problem" (gifted) </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 57 min

Will Saletan and Scott Lincicome: A Crime Boss Has Taken Over

<div>The president of the United States is putting his Jan 6 accomplices in charge of the Justice Department and the FBI, and clearing out any officials who would be willing to investigate the administration. It's anti-democratic, it's a coup, and it's allowing Elon and his 20-something DOGE buddies to act with impunity as they illegally access classified information and the Treasury's payment system. Meanwhile, the White House can't even get its messaging straight on the tariffs as they sabotage our relationship with allies in the process. Plus, the ethnic scapegoating continues and the Dems at the DNC go all Portlandia when they need to be fighting the aspiring authoritarians. Will Saletan and Scott Lincicome join Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://youtu.be/dU08oi2mWvI?si=d882PynXFuARJr9J">Tim's interview with J.J. McCullough on Canada's retaliatory tariffs </a> </div>

Dauer: 76 min

Andrew Weissmann: A MAGAtocracy and a Babytocracy

<div>While Republican senators worked to protect Kash Patel from answering some ver-wee hard questions at his confirmation hearing, not one of them had the audacity to suggest that he is the best person to lead the FBI. Meanwhile, the new administration is clearing out some of the most seasoned and effective veterans at the bureau who will be needed during a crisis. Plus, Elon is trying to get our private financial records at the Treasury Department, and Paramount is so worried that mean Mr. Trump would block a merger deal that it's ready to settle his frivolous, written-in-crayon lawsuit against "60 Minutes." Also, Tim makes an earnest plea to Sen. Bill Cassidy from the heart of New Orleans. Andrew Weissmann joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/main-justice/id1679657705">Weissmann's and Mary McCord's podcast, "Main Justice"</a> <a href="https://substack.com/@weissmann">Weissmann's Substack page</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </div>

Dauer: 54 min

Tommy Vietor: Deniability Is All That Matters

<div>Republican senators don't care that Trump's nominees are lying—like Kash pretending he didn't know a Nazi-adjacent podcaster whose show he's been on eight times—because the confirmation process to them is all a game and truth is irrelevant. And nominees are also mad-flipping on their signatures issues: RFK, Jr. on vaccines, Tulsi on Edward Snowden, and Kash on the Jan 6 cop beaters. Meanwhile, RFK knows embarrassingly little about the programs he'd be administering, Democrats should try combat on for size, and the Fox hosts/reality show stars turned in quite a performance after the first plane crash in 16 years. Tommy Vietor joins Tim Miller. </div>

Dauer: 66 min

Mona Charen: A Moment of Truth

<div>Trump is trying to seize powers he doesn't have—like unilaterally rewriting laws and deciding on his own how he wants to spend money Congress appropriated for a particular purpose. Will the Supreme Court stop him? And if it rules against him, will he obey the court's orders? Plus, the money angle behind RFK, Jr.'s conspiracies, and Elon's attempt at a mass buyout is not about making the government leaner and meaner. He's trying to replace good, smart people with lackeys and flunkies, like Tucker Carlson's son. Mona Charen joins Tim Miller. Mona Charen joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/rfk-jr-one-man-plague-vaccines-covid-hhs">Mona's piece on RFK and his anti-vax damage in Samoa </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-high-speed-power-grab-federal-government-bureaucracy-remake">Bulwark piece on Trump's high-speed power grab </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-turns-schools-into-an-immigration">Adrian Carrasquillo's newsletter on Trump turning schools into immigration battlegrounds </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 41 min

Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

<div>The directives putting a pause on federal grants and the firing of career DOJ prosecutors is about trying to make the entirety of the federal government the tool of the man occupying the presidency. And it's all illegal and unconstitutional. Meanwhile, Trump is exactly the kind of broken sociopath who can dominate the war for attention—the defining resource of our time. Plus, a rundown on DeepSeek, the new Chinese AI model, and why Bitcoin fans aren't more angry about the worthless, scammy Trump and Melania coins. Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/719661/the-sirens-call-by-chris-hayes/">Chris's new book, “The Siren's Call: How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource." </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/PY_chqyaRHo?si=htZQ6dXFCFQojziK">Undercover video of Russ Vought on Project 2025, from August 2024 </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.bigtechnology.com/">Alex's "Big Technology" on Substack </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/big-technology-podcast/id1522960417">Alex's "Big Technology" podcast </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 70 min

Bill Kristol: Trump Loves Fraud

<div>Gullible Republicans have really been proving what they're made of recently, including Susan Collins, who claims Trump wants to root out corruption, even though his whole life has been a fraud—the water, the university, and "The Apprentice," just for starters. Meanwhile, the presidents of Mexico and Colombia are showing that they're not going to bend over in service of Trump's vanity. Plus, JD's Johnny-come-lately Catholicism, and the tech titans's clash with DEI may be helping the US lose the lead in AI. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://x.com/petrogustavo/status/1883624818811236502">Colombian President Gustavo Petro's statement on Twitter (hit translate post)</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/v6dCTnnoVsI?si=YXLsuGu8QuXYR3iV">Timothée Chalamet on SNL </a> </div>

Dauer: 52 min

David French: Vengeance and Rage

<div>Trump launched his first week back in office signaling to loyal followers that they are free to break the law on his behalf, while telling political opponents—including John Bolton and Mike Pompeo—that he'll put their lives at risk. Meanwhile, an office full of white faces is not evidence of a meritocracy, a shortage of VA nurses or prosecutors at the DOJ is not government efficiency, and Putin is different from the man he was during Trump's first term. Plus, the dangers of the word "invasion" in the immigration context. David French joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes: <a href="https://youtu.be/JhkZMxgPxXU?si=oONqKtzZlybUYn9m">John Mulaney's 'horse in the hospital' skit</a> <a href="https://x.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1882469686371348707">Tweet from Dan Crenshaw that Tim referenced</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/23/opinion/trump-pardons-bolton-jan-6.html?unlocked_article_code=1.rk4.F3wB.yORUaLLC78YO&smid=url-share">David's latest newsletter (gifted)</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </div>

Dauer: 62 min

Sam Stein and Adrian Carrasquillo: We Are in a Simulation

<div>Emotionally-stunted video game boys, who are also government contractors and/or quasi government officials, are fighting on Twitter, a POTUS who went all the way to SCOTUS to get immunity for presidents now would like the last president investigated, and America's premiere scientific research institution, the NIH, can't tell us about the bird flu—a widespread and potentially deadly virus that could mutate into a human pandemic. Meanwhile, the assault on immigration has stepped up, with raids now permitted at churches and schools. And DHS is targeting anyone who can be deported, regardless of whether or not they're a security threat. Adrian Carrasquillo and Sam Stein join Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://x.com/arelisrhdz/status/1881397640849678362">https://x.com/arelisrhdz/status/1881397640849678362</a> </div>

Dauer: 60 min

Stephanie Ruhle: Unlimited Money and No Rules

<div>All those CEOs cartwheeled down to Mar-a-Lago and then dutifully lined up at Trump's inauguration because they were fed up with social justice warriors and labor having more power—even if their bottom lines were never harmed in the process. Now, they want their next adrenaline rush and more government money without any pesky regulations hampering their highfalutin space-exploration dreams. But they may just pine for those DEI training sessions after the coming populist economic backlash. Stephanie Ruhle joins Tim Miller. </div>

Dauer: 48 min

Tom Nichols: A Farce and a Sham

<div>Trump tried to pencil out literal words in the Constitution and then freed 1,500 violent insurrectionists—while the media attempted to normalize it all. Meanwhile, much attention is being paid to Elon's salute, and not enough to the facts that he has an office at the White House, he's a government contractor, and paid a quarter of billion dollars to get Trump elected. Plus, other Trump executive orders were pissy and petty, the 80s can no longer be called the decade of greed after Monday's Hunger Games vibe, and the Democrats are going to have a hard time resisting a risky 'eat the rich' path. Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/01/trump-law-and-order/681365/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfBwLnQbSl-cv9jW3Jn4hxFbE&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Tom's piece from Monday on the police responding to Jan 6 </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/artcandee.bsky.social/post/3lg25jsp3z22o">Tweets about the price of eggs v attending the inauguration, which Tom referenced </a> </li> <li> LAST DAY: Make <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/subscribe?coupon=b315ce42">The Bulwark</a> your home for coverage of Trump 2.0. Get 2 months FREE on an annual subscription of Bulwark+ now for exclusive content, ad-free commentary and more: </li> </ul>

Dauer: 60 min

Bill Kristol: Resist the Nihilism

<div>Trump wants us to believe that nothing matters, so we'll brush off all his corruption and grifting as though everybody does it. That's what aspiring authoritarians always do, including the guy who didn't place his hand on a Bible when he was sworn in today. Meanwhile, Trump just launched probably the biggest scam in the history of the presidency with his memecoin—ordinary people will lose real money, nothing like the small-ball amounts he scoops up with his shoes, mugs, and digital baseball cards. Plus, Biden's pardons, Trump's Day One executive orders, and seizing the means of content production with TikTok. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes: </div> <ul><li><a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/team-trump-promises-shock-and-awe">Mark Hertling on the challenges of executing "shock and awe"</a></li></ul> <div> </div> <ul><li> TODAY AND TOMORROW ONLY: TODAY AND TOMORROW ONLY: Make <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/subscribe?coupon=b315ce42">The Bulwark</a> your home for coverage of Trump 2.0. Get 2 months FREE on an annual subscription of Bulwark+ now for exclusive content, ad-free commentary and more. <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/subscribe"><a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/subscribe">https://www.thebulwark.com/subscribe</a></a> </li></ul>

Dauer: 44 min

Ron Brownstein: Don't Take the Bait

<div>Trump governed as a wartime president against blue America, so expect him to keep stirring up culture battles—but the Dems have to avoid getting drawn into them. Kamala and the party were undone in '24 by looking like they cared more about niche issues than putting food on the table. Meanwhile, Biden has left Trump a lot of room to consolidate a bigger coalition than he's ever had. Plus, for Republicans shrugging off climate change and threatening to withhold fire aid to California, here's a news flash: extreme weather is coming to a neighborhood near you. Ron Brownstein joins Tim Miller for the weekend show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/01/coalition-collapse-biden-carter/681254/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB8ys_Mbsskfpb27g56sOc3E&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Ron's piece on 'late regime' presidencies </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/12/harris-team-election/680844/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB5C95WgkaKlF3iXf3MC9nVE&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Ron's interviews with Kamala's advisers </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://youtu.be/-L3T5dKf6oI?si=vWdo5awzsaI-4PqS">Tim's interview with Rep. Jim Himes </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674689374">The book Ron referenced, "The Politics Presidents Make" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 50 min

Melissa Murray and John Avlon: The Dark Legal Clouds Ahead

<div>Pam Bondi is likely to sail to confirmation—even if she's an election denier and pretends she was born yesterday—because she meets the simple qualifications of being a lawyer and former prosecutor, and because she's not a frat paddle come to life i.e. Matt Gaetz. But the fact that she wasn't able to clearly state that the U.S. is her client, not Donald Trump, is a giant red flag. Ditto for his personal lawyers also coming on board. Plus, the ominous removal of Mike Turner from the House intelligence committee, how Biden's farewell address stacked up, and what the locked-up shampoo bottles at CVS say about blue-state governance. Melissa Murray and John Avlon join Tim. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/s/how-to-fix-it-with-john-avalon">John's "How to Fix It" podcast </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://crooked.com/podcast-series/strict-scrutiny/">Melissa's "Strict Scrutiny" podcast </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2025/01/15/remarks-by-president-biden-in-a-farewell-address-to-the-nation/">Biden's farewell address </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Washingtons-Farewell/John-Avlon/9781476746470">John's book, "Washington's Farewell" </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 57 min

Adam Kinzinger and Mark Kelly: Dirty Little Secret

<div>Being secretary of defense is one of the hardest jobs on the planet. But after Pete Hegseth was plucked from a part-time Fox & Friends gig, Republican senators could only kiss his ass and act starstruck during his confirmation hearing—all to ensure he takes their calls when they need military equipment or contracts in their states. Meanwhile, Nancy Mace has been a con artist from the beginning, Trump nominated Nazi-curious Joe Kent to run the National Counterterrorism Center, and Tulsi thinks Edward Snowden is a hero. Sen. Mark Kelly and Rep. Adam Kinzinger join Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/maga-candidate-begs-for-absolution-from-hitler-youth">Tim's piece on Joe Kent courting the racist fringe vote when he ran for Congress </a> </div>

Dauer: 64 min

Peter Hamby: The Politics of a Firestorm

<div>Real estate is everything in Los Angeles. Karen Bass's absence from the city when the fires broke out, and now her seeming aloofness, has instantly made her look unfit for the job of mayor. Even Gavin Newsom is distancing himself from Bass. Meanwhile, while we wait on the facts behind the fires, all the Silicon Valley VC guys and Elon need to shut the f*** up. Plus, Mike Johnson is a disgrace, Zuck has no inner core of values, and TikTok Zoomers need to get a better understanding of free speech and fascism. Venice resident Peter Hamby joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://youtu.be/eUJ1jA07BM0?si=ySyL81izVOsmAQSN">Mayor Bass ignoring a reporter's questions</a></li> <li><a href="https://puck.news/the-blood-is-in-the-water-for-karen-bass/">Peter's Puck piece on Karen Bass</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.skylightbooks.com/book/9781786636249">"Ecology of Fear" by Mike Davis</a></li> <li><a href="https://youtu.be/vx3ACtm0_wU?si=mr1kISQy0zInaB49">Tim's interview with reporter Liz Weil on wildfires</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-3127975/Video-Mark-Zuckerberg-spotted-standing-awkwardly-UFC-298.html">Zuck being awkward at the UFC fight Peter referenced</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 67 min

Bill Kristol: Cannons All the Way Down

<div>Trump's favorite judge, Aileen Cannon, has been attempting to exercise authority she doesn't have over Jack Smith's required report on his investigations of the Jan 6 case and the hoarding of classified docs—but she'll be a model of loyalty that Trump will expect for all his judicial appointments. Meanwhile, it's a big week of hearings for his nominees, Wray could do more to oppose the politicization of the FBI, and what is up with Fetterman? Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/01/trump-putin-ukraine-russia-war/681228/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfBwevm2pKyWKZPCcAbr-9bao&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Bob Kagan's Atlantic piece on Ukraine that Bill referenced </a> </div>

Dauer: 52 min

Amanda Carpenter: We Are Team Karen (Pence)

<div>"Mother" Pence is owed an apology. She snubbed Trump so hard and so beautifully at Jimmy Carter's funeral—and wasn't about to make nice with the man who was all-in on Jan 6 rioters trying to lynch her husband. Meanwhile, the catturd crowd is mad at Amy Coney Barrett for not falling in line, and running off to Greenland while American neighborhoods are on fire is not America First. Plus, the risks of Trump dominating the battlespace with all the stupid stuff. Amanda Carpenter joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes: </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.ifyoucankeepit.org/">Amanda's and Protect Democracy newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/gaslighting-america-amanda-carpenter?variant=32118104260642">Amanda's book, "Gaslighting America"</a></li> <li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist</a></li> </ul> <div> charity links: </div> <ul> <li><a href="https://supportlafd.org/">LA Fire Department Foundation</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.cafirefoundation.org/">California Fire Foundation</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.lafoodbank.org/">Los Angeles Regional Food Bank</a></li> <li><a href="https://unitedwayla.org/">United Way</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.watchduty.org/">"Watch Duty," the nonprofit app that's been providing invaluable, real-time fire information</a></li> </ul>

Dauer: 56 min

Derek Thompson and Elizabeth Weil: The Trend Toward Solitude

<div>Americans have been spending more time alone—and less time doing face-to-face socializing—than we have for at least 60 years. And our alone time is impacting the economy, our politics, and our personalities, particularly among young people. Meanwhile, the fires in Los Angeles are a heartbreaking reminder that the California landscape was meant to burn—and it will keep happening whether we like it or not. Plus, the mystery around the sister of Sam Altman. Derek Thompson and Liz Weil join Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/american-loneliness-personality-politics/681091/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfBzqDCeTBtzFsK72qPh_xsxI&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Derek's piece, "The Anti-Social Century" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Abundance/Ezra-Klein/9781668023488">Derek's forthcoming book with Ezra Klein, "Abundance" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://thenewpress.com/books/strangers-their-own-land">Arlie Russell Hochschild's book, "Strangers in Their Own Land," referenced by Derek </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://thenewpress.com/books/stolen-pride">Hochschild's "Stolen Pride: Loss, Shame, and the Rise of the Right" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/557044/palaces-for-the-people-by-eric-klinenberg/">"Palaces for the People" book Derek mentioned </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/they-know-how-to-prevent-megafires-why-wont-anybody-listen">Liz's ProPublica piece on megafires </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/magazine/california-widfires.html">Liz's piece, "This Isn't the California I Married" </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/sam-altman-artificial-intelligence-openai-profile.html">Liz's reporting on Sam Altman's sister, Annie </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 74 min

Liam Donovan and Brendan Boyle: The Great Grift

<div>Trump talked a lot more about Hannibal Lecter during the campaign than one of his actual top priorities: extending his 2017 tax cuts. With those $4.5 trillion in cuts set to expire by the end of the year, that's the first major item of business for congressional Republicans. But how they get paid for will affect people's lives. Tim takes a deep dive into the reconciliation process that would allow Republicans to make deep cuts to programs without having to work with Democrats. Plus, the billionaire plutocrats staffing the new administration and the potential for corruption. Rep. Brendan Boyle and Liam Donovan join Tim Miller. </div>

Dauer: 68 min

Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

<div>Mark Zuckerberg is doing all he can to get an audience with the big man at Mar-a-Lago, including praising Trump's (faux) free speech bona fides and restructuring Meta to eliminate fact-checking. Maybe it's because Zuck wants to show his middle finger to the mean tech reporters—or maybe it's because Trump threatened to imprison Zuck. Plus, the conspiracies around Jan 6 v 9/11, and the potential threat to our financial system from crypto. Charlie Warzel joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/01/january-6-justification-machine/681215/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB4AesQu5uFm3b7bC2kqcx9k&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Charlie's piece on internet brain rot</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/12/cryptos-legacy-finally-clear/680956/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB-IYesXtV2TiaaStBpAYiEw&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Charlie's piece on crypto and the potential nightmare in Trump 2.0 </a> </div>

Dauer: 59 min

Bill Kristol: The Preposterous and Ridiculous Lies About the FBI

<div>Kash Patel's Jan 6 lie requires FBI officials to have been able to see into the future: to *know* that Trump would lose in 2020 and then try to get Congress to reverse the election results. And they also would have to have known they could get thousands of people to attack the Capitol—just to make MAGA look bad. Are GOP senators really going to clear this conspiracy theorist extraordinaire to run the bureau? Plus, the martyrology around Jan 6 and the mass exodus of journalists from The Washington Post. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/kash-patel-fbi-director-nominee-january-6th-conspiracy-theories">Tom Jocelyn and Norm Eisen on Kash</a> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/january-6th-four-years-later-aquilino-gonell-feel-betrayed">Sgt. Gonell's reflection on Jan 6</a> <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/05/jan-6-mike-pence-al-gore-certification-00196119">Michael Kruse on Al Gore and Mike Pence</a> </div>

Dauer: 51 min

Jonathan Martin: A Resilient City

<div>New Orleans is the most special city in America, but it's a place that also breaks your heart. Local leaders will have to reassure the world that the French Quarter is safe. Plus, Mike Johnson is bound up in a Gordian Knot, and Democrats are petrified of the wrath of leading progressive interest groups in DC— it's like the Dem Party's version of Trump's Twitter ire. Jonathan Martin joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes <a href="https://x.com/tremeprince/status/1875180873236320465">Glen David Andrews leading a second line to reopen Bourbon Street on Thursday</a> <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/27/brian-schatz-democrats-talk-like-normal-people-00196058">Jonathan's interview with Sen. Brian Schatz</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </div>

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David Frum: Sociopaths and Political Tribalism

<div>Apart from the death and carnage on New Years Day in New Orleans, Americans revealed another darkness once again: an eagerness to pin violence on someone who doesn't share their political world view. Meanwhile, Republicans rushed to attack the FBI as a way to justify confirming Kash Patel. Plus, Trump has tossed populism aside as he preps to be openly oligarchical, and the real threats TV journalists face. David Frum joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3lepnboex7c25">Chart shared by Marc Andreessen that Tim referenced </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43959/say-not-the-struggle-nought-availeth">The poem Churchill quoted during WWII that David mentioned </a> </li> </ul>

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Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: We Are Sticking with the Mission

<div>While some media outlets may be moving to accommodate Trump out of fear he'll target them, The Bulwark will not be recalibrating. We'll keep providing the (sometimes funny) content you expect, we'll try not to chase Trump's bait (Canada, Greenland, Panama), and we'll disaggregate the real from the trolling. Plus, when one of the worst people in the world makes a good point, and how much is Trump stuck with Elon? Sarah and JVL join Tim for the last show of 2024. Happy New Year! show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lel6z5keck22">The NBC News president’s comment on their Nebraska bread story that JVL referenced </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/nebraska-congressional-district-could-determine-presidential-election-217101381916">NBC segment on the Omaha bakery </a> </li> </ul>

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Bill Kristol: Exploit the Rifts

<div>MAGA v DOGE, the Christmas gift that keeps on giving, is an early sign of the coming infighting that could diminish Trump's power—we're definitely not seeing signs of an iron fist amid all that golfing and DJ-ing at Mar-a-Lago. Meanwhile, the world he'll be dealing with is far less stable than it was in 2017. Plus, a Carter appreciation, love for Chalamet's Dylan portrayal, and anticipation of a wild January. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bannon-kash-patel-will-absolutely">Tim's Bannon interview </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/maybe-you-can-get-tired-of-all-the">Tim's dispatch from AmericaFest & Kari Lake Part Deux </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://conversationswithbillkristol.org/transcript/eric-edelman-on-the-world-trump-inherits/">Bill's conversation with Eric Edelman </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://wapo.st/4gMHyFY">The Post on retribution advocate Ivan Raiklin (gifted) </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/a-complete-unknown-review">Sonny's review of Chalamet's "A Complete Unknown" </a> </li> </ul>

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'The Hottest Circle of Hell Is for Those Who Stay Neutral'

<div>Do you have to pick a side in politics? That was the question Reason Magazine, the flagship publication of the libertarian movement, invited The Bulwark to debate. In a panel moderated by Reason features editor and <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/looking-ahead-to-2025">Across the Movie Aisle</a> co-host Peter Suderman, Sarah and Tim debated picking sides with Reason editors-at-large Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie. The debate was sharp, occasionally heated, enlightening, and definitely amusing. The results were . . . resounding. Watch for yourself. </div>

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Jon Favreau: Funny and Horrible

<div>While it's still going to be bad, for the first time since the election we're beginning to see that we may actually have a little fun watching these idiots prove they don't know how to govern. Meanwhile, we've also got aspiring authoritarians on the left who think they're right at any cost. Plus, the challenge of holding on to American ideals, how to reach low-info voters, Tim's take from Phoenix on TPUSA, and can Tim make Jon cry? And one more Biden critique (that comes toward the end)... Merry Christmas. Jon Favreau joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/12/democrats-need-change-minds/680950/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB50Yrt9kbmcmfSSnVEy1UUE&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Jon's piece in The Atlantic</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/kWyumOAB6n0?si=4v804h9ixRUPpeeO">Clip from Stavros Halkias about not voting Trump that Tim referenced</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist</a> </div>

Dauer: 68 min

Heather Cox Richardson: The Reality Show-ification of the Government

<div>We are seeing in real time what it looks like to turn a democracy over to an oligarch, namely the unstable guy from South Africa who thinks he's going to be emperor of the universe. It's also authoritarian for that one unstable guy to threaten members of congress with job loss if they vote to provide hurricane relief or to rebuild part of the interstate highway system. Plus, the need for a pro-democracy media ecosystem, the difference between liberal and left, and the terribleness of the William McKinley era. Heather Cox Richardson joins Tim Miller. show notes Some of Heather's books: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/717588/democracy-awakening-by-heather-cox-richardson/">“Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America" </a> <a href="https://birchbarkbooks.com/products/wounded-knee-party-politics">"Wounded Knee: Party Politics and the Road to an American Massacre" </a> <a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300136302/west-from-appomattox/">"West from Appomattox: The Reconstruction of America after the Civil War" </a> </div>

Dauer: 48 min

Mark Hertling: Putin's Weakness

<div>Russia is on its weakest footing since it invaded Ukraine: Putin has destroyed his military, his economy is in the toilet, and the North Korean troops who've been deployed to help out are dying in waves on the battlefield. Why would the US bail Putin out? Meanwhile, MAGA world is trying to distract us with phony DEI issues in the military while we're dealing with some of the biggest challenges we've ever faced in the international space. Plus, with 180,000 US troops currently deployed overseas and 100+ Navy ships at sea, the DOD probably needs someone with a little more breadth of experience than a weekend talk show host on Fox. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Tim Miller. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Tim Miller. show notes <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/i-helped-the-army-remember-its-values-american-values-thanksgiving">Hertling's piece on the Army's and America's values</a> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/north-korea-and-russia-a-match-made">Hertling's piece on North Korean troops fighting for Russia in Ukraine</a> <a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bulwark-events?open=false#%C2%A7december-tim-and-sarah-join-the-reason-debates-in-washington-dc">Tim and Sarah's live event with Reason magazine in DC Wednesday nigh </a> </div>

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Tom Nichols: Don't Descend into Darkness

<div>The existential dread has a strong pull, especially since Trump has made a lot of Americans worse people, but we've had other bad, immoral, and creepy presidents who've sullied the office. Meanwhile, Vance is basically the invisible man while Elon lives in Trump's bedroom, and Andreessen is loading up a pile of BS to justify his vote. Plus, a Tim v Tom Christmas playlist. Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/radiofreetom.bsky.social/post/3ldbt4bcpkk2g">Tom's audiobook version of "The Death of Expertise"</a> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5qPRdDI7BcJI5fAgcGHBli?si=NFFa2bt3Q8GF25tBlGelCQ&pi=u-cAwvtqXmTte_&nd=1&dlsi=005b91c0c16444a9">Tim's Christmas playlist</a> <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374605445/whentheclockbroke/">John Ganz book Tom and Tim referenced</a> </div>

Dauer: 58 min

Bill Kristol: Fake Nicey-Nicey Sh**t

<div>ABC News and George Stephanopoulos have joined the preemptive capitulation parade by settling Trump's defamation suit—and by conspicuously paying out protection money ahead of the inauguration. The potential chilling effect on a key First Amendment issue is breathtaking. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney backs off of his criticism of Trump and Vance. Plus, the anti-oligarchic, semi-populist grounds for challenging the incoming administration. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/15/us/trump-immigrant-deportations-rome-georgia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.h04.0PvV.gnkZbdZxc4mL&smid=url-share">NYT piece Bill mentioned</a> <a href="https://youtu.be/l-gaKjzPKg0?si=ZcJPcG4zpiM_i5Ow">Bulwark debate on potentially ending Daylight Saving Time</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/harvards-jack-goldsmith-on-the-coming-trump-presidency/id925428680?i=1000680183669">Bill's conversation with Jack Goldsmith </a> </div>

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Anne Applebaum: Planning for a Techno-Oligarchic Regime

<div>The billionaires rushing to get on board with Trump, and contributing millions for his inauguration, may have missed this key detail: Enhancing the power of a leader—to bend the rules and undermine the rule of law—is often very bad for business. Meanwhile, Team Trump is distracting the media and the public with the firehose of nominations. Plus, election laws v TikTok and Elon, how brutal regimes can quickly die, and the impact of Israel's campaigns on international law during wartime. Anne Applebaum joins Tim Miller. Show notes: </div> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/12/sudden-collapse-bashar-assad/680917/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB1HJnrp5unAlmDFOrG_5Z9o&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share">Anne's recent piece on Syria, and potentially other brutal regimes, falling quickly </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/world/video/syrian-prisoner-freed-clarissa-ward-digvid">Video of Clarissa Ward finding a Syrian prisoner who didn't know about the fall of Assad </a> </li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch">Tim's playlist </a> </li> </ul>

Dauer: 44 min

Matt Yglesias and Tyler Austin Harper: Popularism v Populism

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Adam Kinzinger and Pat Ryan: Bring It On

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Susan Glasser: A Lame Lame Duck

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Bill Kristol and Michael Weiss: Catastrophic Success

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Jamelle Bouie: Bad at Being President

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David French: We Are in the Bad Multiverse

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Rep. Mikie Sherrill: Who Will Be In Charge of Our National Security?

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Michael Weiss and Thomas Zimmer: Competent and Radical

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Bill Kristol and Elaina Plott Calabro: A Sordid Lot

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Jonathan Chait: A Scary Clown

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George Will: Democracy Rests on Persuasion

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Bill Kristol: We Were Right To Be Alarmed

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Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: The Lonely Boy Club

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Sam Harris: Our Democracy Is Already Unraveling

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Marc Caputo and Dan Goldman: Trump v. the United States

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Jen Psaki: Don't Speak to Me

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Bill Kristol: A Power Play for Autocracy

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Amanda Carpenter: Lessons from the Tea Party Era

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Rick Wilson and David Brooks: MAGA to the Max

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Osita Nwanevu: Democrats Need A Better Story

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Jon Lovett: The Worst People Are Happy

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Bill Kristol: A Pro-Putin America First

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BONUS EPISODE with James Carville: We Are the Opposition

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Ben Wittes: Americans Elected a Serial Criminal to Be President

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Tom Nichols: This Is What They Want

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Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last: Election Debrief

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David Frum: Pride in the Fight

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Bill Kristol: Maybe It's Dobbs, After All

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Ann Selzer: How Could This Be?

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Mehdi Hasan: Memory-Holing the Worst President

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Adam Kinzinger: All the Little Bros

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Alex Vindman and Lakshya Jain: No More Petty Tyrants

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Robert Draper: The Prosecutor

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Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol: It's Already Happening Before our Eyes

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Bret Stephens: Pray Kamala Wins

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David French: 2017 Trump Is Gone

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Jeffrey Goldberg and Catherine Rampell: The Un-American

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Mitch Landrieu and Will Saletan: Trump Lives in the Mud

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Mallory McMorrow and Bill Kristol: Imagining a World Where Trump Is Irrelevant

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Live from Philadelphia (Again)

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Bob Woodward: The Threat Is High

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Susan Rice and Mondaire Jones: The Dictator Hugger

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Tom Nichols: He's Bait for the 25th Amendment

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BONUS EPISODE with Jason Calacanis: The Civil War in Silicon Valley

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Bill Kristol: He's Not Hiding the Authoritarianism Anymore

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Susan Glasser and Jared Polis: Shaking Up the Holdouts

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David Axelrod: Change Agent

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James Carville: We Just Have to Win

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Timothy Snyder: The Politics of Impotence

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Bill Kristol: The Musk of it All

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BONUS EPISODE with Doug Emhoff: We Have a Mission

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John Dickerson: Hero Story

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Kaitlan Collins: Still Surreal

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Jim Messina and Michael Weiss: Midwestern Nice

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Lis Smith: Go After the Weird Angle

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Bill Kristol: Prepping A Closing Message

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Amanda Carpenter: Get With the Program, Already

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Pete Buttigieg and A.B. Stoddard: Talk Is Cheap

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Dana Milbank: Fools on the Hill

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Michael Medved: America Is No Accident

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Bill Kristol: Trump's Just A Huckster at Heart

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Peter Hamby: Living the Racist Porn Message Board Life

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Sam Stein and Susanne Craig: Look Beyond the Polls

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Tom Nichols: The Cat Was in the Basement

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Amy Walter: A 50-50 Race

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Bill Kristol: Fanning the Flames

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Jeffrey Goldberg: Trump Doesn't Believe in America

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Mark McKinnon: Taking Back the Freedom Agenda

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S.E. Cupp: A Sucker and a Loser

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Symone Sanders Townsend and Olivia Nuzzi: Kamala v the Weirdo

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Bill Kristol and Colin Allred: What's So Hard about This, Pres. Bush?

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Live from Dallas

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David Frum: Villains and Monsters

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Neera Tanden and Heidi Heitkamp: Trump Playing the Media, Again

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Brian Schatz and Mona Charen: Democrats Don't Trust Happiness

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Bill Kristol: Stay on Offense

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Margaret Hoover: Kamala, the Real Apprentice

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Adam Kinzinger: Trump Is Q

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D.L. Hughley: Kamala Is the Main Character

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Mark Leibovich: The Democrats' Rumor Mill

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Bill Kristol: Do Something

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A.B. Stoddard: Only in America

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Al Franken: Mind Your Own Damn Business

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Jon Favreau: Understanding the Assignment

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Beto O'Rourke: Air of Authenticity

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Bill Kristol and Michael Weiss: It's Showtime

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Brian Beutler: Vibe Shift

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Dean Phillips and Mikie Sherrill: The Right Call

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Brian Tyler Cohen and Carol Leonnig: Go Inside the Bubble

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Amanda Carpenter: Trump's Traumatic Month

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Bill Kristol and Christopher Cadelago: Increasingly Unhinged

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Nate Silver: Underdog Story

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Adam Kinzinger: MAGA Hates America

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Peter Callaghan and Isaac Stanley-Becker: Veep Peeks

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Adam Schiff and Michael Steele: A Stabilizing Force

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Bill Kristol: Kama-Momentum

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George Conway: Crazy in a Bad Way

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Dan Pfeiffer: A Scared and Seething Trump

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Fred Trump and Will Saletan: An Alpha Emerges

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Tom Nichols: Drama Queens About Everything

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Bill Kristol: Weird and Extreme

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Jennifer Palmieri: The Making of the First Woman President

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A.B. Stoddard: Focus Only on Winning

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Rick Perlstein: The Alternative Is Apocalyptic

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Sam Stein and Ron Brownstein: Now We're Talking

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James Carville: Kamala-Gras

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Bill Kristol: Biden Drops Out of Race

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S.E. Cupp: Grieving the Insanity

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Adam Kinzinger: Everything Is on the Line

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Jeff Sharlet and Joe Perticone: The Confidence of a Bully

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Alyssa Farah Griffin: National Unity Is Not Where the GOP Is

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Bill Kristol: Not Resigned to a Trump Presidency

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Sam Stein: Violence Is Not the Answer

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Amanda Carpenter: A Life or Death Bet

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David French: Trump Tries To Run Away from the Christian Nationalists

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Ezra Klein: A Path to Defeat

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Bakari Sellers and Elaina Plott Calabro: The Case for Riding with Biden

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Bill Kristol: The Joe Biden Survival Plan

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Annie Lowrey: The Worst Best Economy

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Clint Smith: A Reckoning with History

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Jon Lovett: Unprecedented Times

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Ben Wittes and Steven Shepard: He Is Still a Criminal

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Tom Nichols: Political Malpractice

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Sarah Longwell, Jonathan V. Last, and Jonathan Martin: A Disaster

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Kate Bedingfield and Marc Caputo: Debate Day

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Stuart Stevens: I think Joe Biden Has Been A Great President

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Symone Sanders-Townsend: Don't Say We Didn't Warn You

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Jared Polis and Bill Kristol: Live from Denver

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Jane Coaston: He's So Not a Badass

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Adam Kinzinger: Bat**** Crazy

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George Packer: Phoenix, the Most American City

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Lauren Windsor and Ben Wittes: A Deep Rot

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Will Saletan: Nonstop Shamelessness

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Jonathan V. Last and Ben Raderstorf: Retribution Agenda

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Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer: The Inside Story of the Fall of Roe

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Jennifer Senior: Secrets and Lies

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Bill Kristol: Tuberville's Policy Is the Same as Trump's

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Mike Madrid: The Latino Century

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Adam Kinzinger: The New Axis Power Alliance

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Will Saletan and McKay Coppins: Fear and Loathing

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Ritchie Torres and Ben Smith: Pride and Priors

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Bill Kristol: Rally Around the Flag

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Ben Wittes and Ron Filipkowski: Guilty!

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Derek Thompson: Negativity Bias

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David Frum: Complete Chaos

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John Heilemann: Piss and Vinegar

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Sarah Longwell and A.B. Stoddard: Won't Get Fooled Again

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Jasmine Crockett: Nikki Haley and B6

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James Comey and Ben Wittes: A Demagogue Our Founders Feared

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Rick Wilson: The Reich Stuff

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Tom Nichols: The Cult Around the Sad Boy from Queens

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Anne Applebaum: A New Propaganda War

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Joe Walsh: Red Lines

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Ben Wittes and Brody Mullins: Code Red

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Eddie Glaude Jr.: Biden Needs to Thread the Needle

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Will Saletan: Trolls and Liars

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Mark Leibovich: The Oracle of Washington

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Ben Wittes and Ro Khanna: Stormy Rafah

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Adam Kinzinger: A Small Man

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Elizabeth Neumann and Geoff Duncan: Republican Voters Against Trump

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Bill Kristol and Andrew Egger: Lying Is the Price of Admission

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Live from Philly

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Gov. Josh Shapiro: We Can Do Big Things

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Ben Wittes and Eric Cortellessa: Trump's Autocratic Agenda

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Bakari Sellers: We Are in a Dark Moment

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Christians and Political Power

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Simon Rosenberg: I Think We're Going to Kick His Ass

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Mark Joseph Stern and Dave Weigel: A Bad Day for Jack Smith

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Olivia Nuzzi and Dana Mattioli: A Deflated Trump

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Frank Bruni: The Age of Grievance

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Tom Mauser and Bill Kristol: Columbine, 25 Years On

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Amanda Carpenter: Welcome to Coalition Government

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Ali Vitali and Will Saletan: An Epiphany on Ukraine?

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David Sanger: New Cold Wars

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Ross Douthat: Elite Outrage Is Not Enough

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Bill Kristol and Ben Wittes: The Split-Screen Reality

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Jonathan Chait: Trump Broke the Scales

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Isaac Arnsdorf and Joe Perticone: Trying to Finish What They Started

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Olivia Nuzzi: Kari Lake Is No Meryl Streep

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Adam Kinzinger: Yes, Russian Propaganda Is Infecting the GOP

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Bill Kristol: Pure Oligarchic Greed

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Ron Brownstein: A Republican Realignment?

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Ruth Ben-Ghiat: There Is No Alternative

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Rep. Jared Moskowitz and Marc Caputo: The Least Productive Congress

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Stephen Richer and Will Saletan: Kari Lake Lied

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Bill Kristol: Easter Egg (T)roll

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A.B. Stoddard: Liz Cheney Groupie

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David Frum: American North Korea

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Justin Kanew and Justin Fenton: Tennessee, Laboratory of Theocracy

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Don Lemon: Elon Is a Troll

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Bill Kristol and Joe Perticone: The Quitters

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Tom Schaller and Paul Waldman: White Rural Rage

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Jake Tapper: American Scandal

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Stephen Hayes: Grading Biden

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Susan Glasser: An Edifice of Lies

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Bill Kristol and Ben Wittes: A Subversive Enterprise

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Amanda Carpenter: Is Trump Depressed?

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Josh Barro: Dear Fed, Please Lower Interest Rates

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Sasha Issenberg: Politics, Disinformation, and 2024

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Evan Osnos: Biden Brims with Confidence

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Bill Kristol and Sarah Longwell: Is the Wishcasting Over?

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Ben LaBolt and Will Saletan: The Stakes of the Moment

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Tom Nichols: The GOP Needs a Fake Joe Biden

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Errin Haines: A Not So Super Tuesday

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Catherine Rampell: Trump Would Be Bad News for the Economy

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Bill Kristol and Ben Wittes: We Still Have to Do the Work

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Kara Swisher: A Tech 'Tough Love' Story

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Jamie Weinstein: The Cowardice of Mitch McConnell

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John Avlon: Winning Back the House from the MAGA Minions

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Dauer: 43 min

Matt Yglesias and Brian Beutler: The Left Hits Biden Harder than Trump

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Dauer: 47 min

Bill Kristol: A Shot of Hopium

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Dauer: 45 min

Bonus Episode: South Carolina Circus Special

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Dauer: 44 min

Rob Reiner and Dan Partland: God & Country

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Dauer: 29 min

Glenn Thrush and Tim Mak: Russia's Plots Against the West

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Dauer: 40 min

Katie Couric: Not A Libtard

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Dauer: 46 min

Jane Coaston: The Culture War of Absurdity

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Dauer: 57 min

Bill Kristol: A Tacky, Low-Life Con Man

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Dauer: 30 min

Ben Wittes: Putin's Cheerleaders

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Dauer: 46 min

Robert Draper: The Talented Mr. Meadows

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Dauer: 42 min

Rep. Dean Phillips: The Pitch

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Dauer: 44 min

James Carville: Mock Him

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<div>Much of MAGA thinks Trump was sent by God, but King Cyrus probably didn't wear a diaper. Don't skimp on the mockery. Plus, Dems and male voters, jealousy over Taylor+Travis, and the catch-22 of Robert Hur. Carville joins Tim Miller for Mardi Gras.</div>

Dauer: 36 min

Bill Kristol and A.B. Stoddard : Soak Up the Schadenfreude

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<div>A Super Bowl W for Dark Brandon & the Deep State brings MAGA tears. Plus, Mike Gallagher steps aside as no profile in courage, NATO allies are alarmed about a Trump 2.0, and a debate over Biden staying in the race. Kristol and Stoddard join Tim Miller for his inaugural show as host of The Bulwark Pod.</div>

Dauer: 53 min

David French and Bill Kristol: The Age Thing

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<div>The special counsel's report on Biden's docs—and a gaffe about Mexico—have placed Joe's age and memory front and center in the campaign. Plus, SCOTUS's potential undermining of part of the 14th Amendment, and Charlie Sykes signs off with the very first guest of the pod. David French and Bill Kristol join Charlie.</div>

Dauer: 53 min

He's Staying on the Ballot

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<div>The Supreme Court sounded ready to reject a Colorado ruling that barred Trump from the state ballot. Plus, reading the tea leaves on the next phase for Trump's immunity claim, and the thin factual record against Fani Willis. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. </div>

Dauer: 35 min

Tom Nichols: Citizen Trump

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<div>The Supreme Court's legitimacy would really be on the line if it took up Trump's completely lunatic immunity theory after the D.C. Circuit's airtight rejection of it. Plus, the four Republican Parties in the House, and not-a-journalist Tucker's suck up to Putin. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 46 min

Jonathan Taplin: The End of Reality

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<div>Four billionaires—Musk, Zuckerberg, Thiel, and Andreessen—are part of an antidemocratic turn in the tech world. This interlocked directorate of Silicon Valley has helped bring us to this time of post-truth reality, online chaos, and mob violence. Jonathan Taplin joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jonathan-taplin/the-end-of-reality/9781541703155/?lens=publicaffairs">Jon's "The End of Reality" </a> </div>

Dauer: 37 min

The Fifth Avenue Rapist

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<div>J.D. Vance has extended Trump's Fifth Avenue immunity claim to sexual assault, espionage, RICO, and election stealing—as he angles for the VP slot. Plus, the border bill Republicans have always wanted. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 46 min

Michael Steele: Let it Rip, Joe

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<div>Surprise, surprise, Biden drops F-bombs when he talks about the former insurrectionist president. Plus, Mike Johnson is Trump's punk, and the RNC is behind in the campaign money race after spending lavishly on luxury hotels and private jets. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 37 min

We're Talking Real Money

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<div>Trump hasn't re-defamed E. Jean Carroll, so it basically takes about $83 million to get him to shut up. Plus, the big risk in the Georgia case, MAGA will be rooting for San Francisco, and Charlie talks about getting off the hamster wheel. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.</div>

Dauer: 45 min

Joe Klein & John Ellis: A Torrent of Stupid

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<div>MAGA has put Taylor at the top of its enemies list, Greg Abbott is inviting another Jan 6 at the border, and GOP governors have come out for just ignoring the Supreme Court. Plus, the potential tech disruptors in the election will set your hair on fire. Joe Klein and John Ellis join Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/night-owls/id1724583637">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/night-owls/id1724583637</a> <a href="https://josephklein.substack.com/">https://josephklein.substack.com/</a> <a href="https://substack.com/@newsitems">https://substack.com/@newsitems</a> </div>

Dauer: 50 min

Brian Klaas: Why Everything We Do Matters

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<div>The world feels like it's falling apart, and black swan events are on the rise. Is this the result of our unquenchable thirst for optimization and efficiency—as we try to tame an untameable world? Brian Klaas joins Charlie Sykes to discuss his new book, "Fluke." show notes: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Fluke/Brian-Klaas/9781668006528">Fluke: Chance, Chaos, and Why Everything We Do Matters </a> </div>

Dauer: 44 min

Will Saletan: The New Nikki

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<div>Haley has taken a hard turn against Trump, and is calling on him to 'man-up' and explain why he grew the debt and why he praises President Xi. Meanwhile, most Senate Republicans are doing Trump's bidding on the border bill. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 45 min

Edward Luce: Why Big Business Is Caving to Trump

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<div>Tax cuts and a gutted regulatory state are a big draw for Wall Street. But under a Trump 2.0, it would be the aspiring monopolists—not the publicly-traded "corporatists"—who would be the winners. Democracy isn't the only thing on the line. Ed Luce joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. show notes: <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/8fbf3a47-f622-46cc-ac06-17732cecc313">https://www.ft.com/content/8fbf3a47-f622-46cc-ac06-17732cecc313</a> </div>

Dauer: 43 min

Just What Putin Wanted

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<div>Moscow Mitch capitulated to Trump's electoral interests, Justice Scalia speaks from beyond, Lindsey may have flipped on Trump in Georgia, and reading the tea leaves on why the presidential immunity ruling is taking so long. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-justice-scalia-thought-about-whether-presidents-are-officers-of-the-united-states">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-justice-scalia-thought-about-whether-presidents-are-officers-of-the-united-states</a> </div>

Dauer: 40 min

Benjy Sarlin: Wake up to Reality

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<div>As we pivot from primary season to the general election, Biden is telling Democrats to accept that Trump will be the nominee. Meanwhile, the ex-POTUS is doing 'peak Trump'—talking about Jan 6, his legal cases, and calling E. Jean Carroll a liar. Semafor's Benjy Sarlin joins Charlie Sykes</div>

Dauer: 40 min

Michael Kruse: Trump's Grand Finale

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<div>As a longtime legal combatant, probably no one else on earth is more prepared to leverage four prosecutions than Donald Trump—he's made an art form of attacking the courts, our justice system, and the rule of law for 50-plus years. Politico's Michael Kruse joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/01/12/donald-trump-indictments-legal-system-00135151">https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/01/12/donald-trump-indictments-legal-system-00135151</a> <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/01/22/new-hampshire-primary-voter-00136850">https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/01/22/new-hampshire-primary-voter-00136850</a> </div>

Dauer: 43 min

Will Saletan: A Rogue Presidency

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<div>Trump wants to put his knee on the neck of America with a violent, illegal presidency. Plus, the self-abasement of DeSantis and Tim Scott, Nikki waits 'til the 11th hour to punch harder, and Stefanik readies for her close-up. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 49 min

Amanda Carpenter: The Authoritarian Playbook

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<div>Donald Trump has been making extreme promises on the campaign trail. And unlike in 2016, this time he has a team drawing up the plans for implementing them. Amanda Carpenter joins Charlie Sykes to explain how Trump would follow through on his most anti-democratic pledges in a second term. show notes: <a href="https://www.authoritarianplaybook2025.org/">Report from Amanda and Protect Democracy</a> <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/659f18e58ecd8b48c167275a/t/65a845a81c397a74fc70942f/1705526706337/Authoritarian+Playbook+for+2025.pdf">PDF version</a> </div>

Dauer: 52 min

Complete and Total Immunity

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<div>No, American presidents don't need to be able to commit crimes to do their job. Plus, Trump is begging to be made a victim of a big, bad judge, and looking like someone who plays a lawyer on TV does not make you a good lawyer. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. </div>

Dauer: 41 min

Tina Nguyen: The MAGA Diaries

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<div>The young people who show up at CPAC and Turning Point events are there because of a deeply entrenched grassroots effort to draw in new soldiers of the conservative movement. The inside story from a journalist who got out. Plus, a diagnosis of Tucker Carlson. Puck's Tina Nguyen joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-MAGA-Diaries/Tina-Nguyen/9781982189693">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-MAGA-Diaries/Tina-Nguyen/9781982189693 </a> </div>

Dauer: 46 min

A.B. Stoddard: Dead Ends after Iowa

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<div>Almost half of Iowa's caucus-goers voted for someone besides Trump—evidence that a criminal defendant preaching to the choir can only go so far. Meanwhile, Haley makes up her own reality, DeSantis crawls to South Carolina, and the Trump suck-ups plot against McConnell. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.c-span.org/video/?532828-1/chris-christie-campaign-announcement-windham-hampshire">Chris Christie Ending His White House Bid</a> <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/01/15/what-foreign-diplomats-say-about-u-s-politics-behind-closed-doors-00135326">Politico piece Charlie and A.B. referenced</a> </div>

Dauer: 42 min

Will Saletan: The GOP Surrenders before First Vote

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<div>Republicans are racing to bend the knee before the Iowa caucuses even start, while also looking like they want border chaos. Plus, racial resentment right now is worse than at the time of Martin Luther King. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 58 min

Karen Tumulty: The World's Biggest Victim

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<div>As Trump prepares to clean up in the Iowa caucuses, his campaign narrative has gone full 'Trump: The Victim.' Expect more court appearances and more temper tantrums. Meanwhile, Haley and DeSantis are acting like there's a contest. Karen Tumulty joins Charlie Sykes from frigid Iowa for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 37 min

The MAGA Pathology

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<div>Chris Christie dropping out shows that one party is at war with the idea of democratic self-government. Meanwhile, Trump's Fifth Avenue comment makes a comeback as a legal argument, and shades of the Russia investigation reappear. Award-winning* Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/p/to-mock-power-which-seems-omnipotent">Ben's award from Zelensky</a> </div>

Dauer: 39 min

Mark Hertling: Defending American Values

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<div>While North Korea has jumped in to arm Russia, Republicans in Congress are dallying over supporting Ukraine. Plus, presidential hit squads, Lloyd Austin's hospitalization, and the tinderbox in the Mideast. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 41 min

Tim O'Brien: The Most Corrupt President. Ever.

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<div>Trump is hoping for a market crash on Biden's watch, vowing revenge prosecutions, and plotting on how much he can grift off of foreign countries if he gets back in the Oval Office. He'll certainly be on the take for more than the millions he made the first time. Tim O'Brien joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 40 min

Will Saletan: Erasing History

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<div>Jan 6 insurrectionists are innocent, and the Art of the Deal guy could've taught Lincoln how to negotiate an end to the Civil War—the Republican Party is dedicated to erasing history. Plus, Biden's baiting of Trump, the loser. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 55 min

Tom Nichols: Claudine Gay Had to Go

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<div>Harvard was justified in protecting its academic standards and the institution itself. But people are taking the DEI bait over Gay, instead of seeing that Project Trump is about discrediting institutions that stand for integrity and standards. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 53 min

What Will the Supreme Court Do?

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<div>SCOTUS will have to take up up the insurrectionist clause, after Colorado and Maine took steps to remove Trump from their ballots. Plus, Trump's absurd and audacious immunity claim. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.</div>

Dauer: 47 min

Susan Glasser: The Fever Won't Break

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<div>The Trump experience can't just be undone—we are a different country now, and we're not going back to the status quo before his presidency. Plus, watch Trump try to steal the idea of defending democracy from Biden, just like he stole 'fake news' from Hillary. Susan Glasser joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 42 min

Will Saletan: The Guts to Tell the Truth

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<div>Chris Christie makes clear he's not dropping out, because Nikki Haley is not the one we've been waiting for. Plus, with House Republicans signaling they may pull the plug on Ukraine aid, the war there is escalating. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for a new year of Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 45 min

The Day After: The Night My Father Scared America

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<div>ABC's The Day After, the 1983 drama about a nuclear strike on America, was the most-watched movie in television history. It had a profound impact on Ronald Reagan, and led to shifts in our nuclear policy. A.B. Stoddard tells the story of her father's role in changing the course of history. The Bulwark Podcast presents: The Day After: The Night My Father Scared America. show notes: <a href="https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/brandon-stoddard-the-day-after">A.B.'s article from November</a> </div>

Dauer: 24 min

Sam Wasson: A Francis Ford Coppola Story

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<div>Coppola is like a Method actor behind the camera—living the movie to make the movie. For The Godfather, he became like a godfather. And most famously, the method behind the making of Apocalypse Now was a descent into madness. Author Sam Wasson joins guest host Sonny Bunch today. show notes: Wasson's new book: <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-path-to-paradise-sam-wasson?variant=41008558932002">"The Path to Paradise"</a> </div>

Dauer: 41 min

Yair Rosenberg: Israel Is Not a White Colonial Project

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<div>The left is lazily applying American ideas about racial identity and intersectionality to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Atlantic's Yair Rosenberg joins guest host Ben Parker today.</div>

Dauer: 54 min

Anne Applebaum: The Irreparable Damage of a Second Term

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<div>Anne Applebaum discusses a ray of hope in Europe with the defeat of Poland's authoritarian government, while also contemplating the consequences for NATO and America's place in the world if Trump were to be reelected. Mona Charen sits in for Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/ukraine-russia-frozen-assets/676390/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/ukraine-russia-frozen-assets/676390/</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/trump-2024-reelection-pull-out-of-nato-membership/676120/">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/trump-2024-reelection-pull-out-of-nato-membership/676120/</a> </div>

Dauer: 36 min

Will Saletan: Trump Is Anti-America

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<div>On the stump in New Hampshire, Trump parroted Putin condemning the American political system. Plus, the tension among Democrats over Israel, Christie v Haley, and it's either Biden or the end of democracy in 2024. Will Saletan joins guest host A.B. Stoddard for a special A.B. and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 40 min

Ready for 2024?

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<div>It was a year of heroes and zeros, highs and lows, and shocks and fizzles. Mona Charen, A.B. Stoddard, and Will Saletan join Charlie Sykes for a special send-off to 2023.</div>

Dauer: 59 min

Jack Smith Calls Trump's Bluff

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<div>The special counsel is short-circuiting Trump's foot-dragging strategy and mining his phone data to uncover a mountain of new evidence against the ex-POTUS. Plus, the beginning of the end of Giuliani, and getting busted in Brussels. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.</div>

Dauer: 41 min

Where Have All the Democrats Gone?

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<div>Democrats used to be the party of the common man and woman, but they have taken a back seat to Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and Wall Street. In the process, the party has been hemorrhaging working-class voters. Can they win them back? Ruy Teixeira joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250877499/wherehaveallthedemocratsgone">https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250877499/wherehaveallthedemocratsgone</a> </div>

Dauer: 54 min

David Frum: A Dark Path

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<div>If Trump wins, the first crime of his second term will be committing perjury—when he swears to defend the Constitution. Plus, Republicans aren't really looking for a deal on the border: They're trying to rationalize abandoning Ukraine. David Frum joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/press-releases/archive/2023/12/atlantics-janfeb-issue-next-trump-presidency/676227/">https://www.theatlantic.com/press-releases/archive/2023/12/atlantics-janfeb-issue-next-trump-presidency/676227/</a> </div>

Dauer: 42 min

Will Saletan: Political Delusion

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<div>Kevin swears that Trump will stop with the retribution talk. Meanwhile, the aspiring dictator says it's a hoax that Democrats call him a threat to democracy. Plus, the Arab Americans who claim they won't back Biden, and the Texas abortion case. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. </div>

Dauer: 50 min

Tim Alberta: American Idolatry

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<div>Is the Almighty, who made heaven and earth, also biting his nails over next year's election? Tim Alberta joins Charlie Sykes to discuss the evangelicals who worship America, a 500-year moment for Christianity, and the organized crime syndicate Jerry Falwell built. Christmas comes early on the weekend pod. show notes: <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-kingdom-the-power-and-the-glory-tim-alberta?variant=41012408516642">https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-kingdom-the-power-and-the-glory-tim-alberta?variant=41012408516642 </a> </div>

Dauer: 39 min

A.B. Stoddard: No One Feared Kevin

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<div>And now no one is afraid of Mike Johnson—so he won't be able to lead either. Plus, a Christie-Haley alliance is starting to materialize, Marjorie Taylor Greene now has no sugar daddy, and Liz Cheney reminds us that we have one job. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/donald-trump-second-term-policies/676176/">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/donald-trump-second-term-policies/676176/ </a> <a href="https://www.axios.com/2023/12/07/trump-loyalty-cabinet-2025-carlson-miller-bannon">https://www.axios.com/2023/12/07/trump-loyalty-cabinet-2025-carlson-miller-bannon </a> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/05/donald-trump-authoritarian-rule-second-term-maga/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/05/donald-trump-authoritarian-rule-second-term-maga/</a> </div>

Dauer: 47 min

Liz Cheney: A Clear and Present Danger

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<div>Donald Trump will never be the lesser of two evils. We must unite, look beyond partisanship, and vote in ways that will maintain the republic. Liz Cheney joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. show notes: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/liz-cheney/oath-and-honor/9780316572064/?lens=little-brown">https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/liz-cheney/oath-and-honor/9780316572064/?lens=little-brown</a> </div>

Dauer: 30 min

Philip Bump: The GOP Stumbles Towards Impeachment

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<div>The smoking gun turns out to be a dud, but James Comer and the Republicans move ahead on their evidence-free Biden impeachment inquiry. The Washington Post’s Philip Bump joins Charlie Sykes on today’s podcast. </div>

Dauer: 42 min

Will Saletan: The #MeToo Fail

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<div>The progressives both-sidesing the sexual violence against Israeli women and girls has only added to the horrors of the Israel-Hamas conflict. Plus, Trump won't take 'No' for an answer, and Lindsey Graham capitulates to the anti-Ukraine isolationists. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 54 min

Adam Kinzinger: Why Trump 2.0 Will Be Worse

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<div>Trump wants to weaponize the office of the presidency, and who would stop him? We have a built-in weakness of basing our constitutional norms on the honor system. Plus, the Democrats have a Hamas problem. Adam Kinzinger joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 42 min

The Banality of Crazy

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<div>From Elon to Trump to Kanye, public decompensation is a part of our culture now. Plus, Georgia's inadequate investigation of the potential Trump-related conspiracy to copy election software, and the uncertainty of a verdict before Election Day. Ben Wittes and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-the-gbi-missed-in-coffee-county">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-the-gbi-missed-in-coffee-county </a> </div>

Dauer: 42 min

Michael Steele: The GOP's Humiliation Kink

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<div>This is the era of political humiliation: From Kevin nursing Trump back to health after Jan 6, to dominatrixes who get paid to mock your political views. Plus, the Koch network is doing it backwards. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes. </div>

Dauer: 46 min

David French: It's a Cult

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<div>Don't underestimate the power of the belief that Trump is part of a prophecy for many evangelicals. And don't underestimate the general lack of knowledge about Trump's corruption. Plus, putting pressure only on Israel does Hamas' work for them. David French joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 49 min

Will Saletan: Trump’s Pee-wee Herman Moment

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<div>Trump wants you to know that he remembers who the president is. Plus, the asymmetry in the hostage-prisoner exchanges, linking reform of asylum rules to aid for Ukraine and Israel, and is Christie helping Haley? Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 53 min

Amir Tibon: Terrible Choices for Israel

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<div>Hamas triggered the Gaza war—and signed the death warrants of thousands of Palestinians—when it purposefully targeted civilians on 10/7. Israeli journalist Amir Tibon joins guest host Mona Charen to discuss how his family survived the terror attack, Netanyahu's failures, Biden's support, and the bad options for post-war rule in Gaza.</div>

Dauer: 48 min

We Are Living in a Post-Rational World

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<div>A disconnect from reality has descended on the US: Republicans practice fantasy politics day and night, Trump is out to paint Biden as corrupt, and Americans think the economy is in the crapper. Plus, family love and loss, and gratitude for a good ending. JVL joins guest host A.B. Stoddard.</div>

Dauer: 43 min

Karen Tumulty: The Sununu Effect in New Hampshire

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<div>New Hampshire voters are famously contrarian, and the non-MAGA set is showing up for Haley and Christie ahead of the first-in-the-nation primary. Plus, a Rosalynn Carter appreciation, and the 'Lord of the Flies' vibe in the House. Karen Tumulty joins Charlie Sykes from New Hampshire. show notes: <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/20/rosalynn-carter-place-in-history/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/20/rosalynn-carter-place-in-history/</a> </div>

Dauer: 39 min

Will Saletan: The Annihilation of Truth

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<div>We are in an age where internet randos are beating out reality. Plus, Haley's abortion dance, the cowardice of DeSantis, another Biden panic poll, and the Steve Bannon wing feels like it has the wind at their backs. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 56 min

The Bulwark Live, with Brian Stelter

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<div>Fox launched the Big Lie based on a random email from a woman in Minnesota who heard voices in the supermarket. And its viewers wanted to be told that Trump was robbed of reelection. Brian Stelter has the receipts, and joins Charlie Sykes for our live show in Washington, D.C. show notes: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Network-of-Lies/Brian-Stelter/9781668046906">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Network-of-Lies/Brian-Stelter/9781668046906</a> </div>

Dauer: 37 min

Too Crazy for Rudy

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<div>One person we can be certain will not be called as a witness in Georgia: nutty Sidney Powell. Plus, the unsettled Trump trial calendar, one way we may get to 'hear' Chutkan's trial, and the missing funding for Ukraine. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.</div>

Dauer: 46 min

Peter Wehner: A Polite Zealot

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<div>We may have averted a government shutdown for the moment, but the new speaker of the House believes dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark. Pete Wehner joins Charlie Sykes for a deep dive on Mike Johnson. Plus, the closing of the American mind on the right. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/polite-zealotry-mike-johnson/675845/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/polite-zealotry-mike-johnson/675845/ </a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/trump-allan-bloom-republicans.html"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/trump-allan-bloom-republicans.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opinion/trump-allan-bloom-republicans.html</a></a> </div>

Dauer: 43 min

George Conway: Trump Knows He's a Criminal

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<div>Deep down, Trump knows the truth, and is running again to stay out jail—just like authoritarian leaders do in other countries. Plus, the new non-MAGA initiative to protect the rule of law. George Conway joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 35 min

Will Saletan: Punish the Vermin

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<div>Very powerful and strong Donald Trump is promising his supporters the freedom to go after the people they don't like if he returns to the White House. Plus, pathological lying fascists, Hamas tunnels, and the day after in Gaza. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. </div>

Dauer: 47 min

Flooding the Zone

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<div>Jack Smith's office filed an epic motion this week laying out the central role of Trump's lies in the election subversion case. Meanwhile, the ex-POTUS will never just shut-up. Plus, the proper way to dispose of dog poop bags. Yes, you read that right. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes Ben's piece from 2016: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-and-powers-american-presidency-part-i">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-and-powers-american-presidency-part-i</a> </div>

Dauer: 45 min

A.B. Stoddard: Insane and Surreal

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<div>Trump wants to melt the constitutional order, but NBC didn't bother to ask the also-rans about that at their debate. Meanwhile, Vivek would've embarrassed Steve Bannon, DeSantis was less cringy, and normal Nikki may be the last one standing—before she concedes. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 44 min

Greg Lukianoff: The Canceling of the American Mind

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<div>When Gen Z began attending college and demanding protection from speech, the left argued that cancel culture was a myth. But now that the anti-Zionism bias on campus is clear, consequence culture suddenly feels very real. Greg Lukianoff joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Canceling-of-the-American-Mind/Greg-Lukianoff/9781668019146">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Canceling-of-the-American-Mind/Greg-Lukianoff/9781668019146 </a> </div>

Dauer: 47 min

Cassidy Hutchinson: Why I Testified

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<div>Next year's election is not a vote for a Democrat or a Republican: It's a vote for the survival of our nation. Cassidy Hutchinson joins Charlie Sykes to discuss her break with Trump world, speaking truth to power, and steering herself back to the right side of history. show notes: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Enough/Cassidy-Hutchinson/9781668028285">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Enough/Cassidy-Hutchinson/9781668028285</a> </div>

Dauer: 42 min

Will Saletan: Don't Panic

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<div>Recent polls have some Democrats reverting to bed-wetting, Christie calls out the deplorables, and Scalise is an election-denying weasel. Plus, Biden and Gaza, and the left's support for Hamas. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 49 min

Tim Miller: Trump Keeps Telling Us

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<div>Trump is glorifying insurrectionist prisoners, Bannon-world is using Confederate code words, and Republicans and a lot of the media are just pretending this radicalizing talk isn't happening. Plus, Mike Johnson's thoughts on dinosaurs and gay people. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 48 min

McKay Coppins: The Last Temptation of Mitt Romney

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<div>Romney's journey from the party's standard-bearer to its pariah is also a story of the dramatic transformation of the GOP. And his nomination in 2012 was a false indicator that the center would hold. McKay Coppins joins Charlie Sykes to discuss his new book, "Romney: A Reckoning." show notes: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Romney/McKay-Coppins/9781982196202"><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Romney/McKay-Coppins/9781982196202">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Romney/McKay-Coppins/9781982196202</a></a> </div>

Dauer: 40 min

Insurrection and Its Consequences

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<div>A Colorado case will determine whether Trump should be kept off the ballot there because of that annoying little insurrection issue. Plus, founding father wisdom, the gag order is back, and a quiz on left-wing antisemitism. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.</div>

Dauer: 48 min

Adam Kinzinger: Renegade

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<div>The former congressman says he wasn't always fighting the good fight, and that he feels some responsibility for the GOP's descent into dysfunction—and the rise of people like Marjorie Taylor Greene. Adam Kinzinger joins Charlie Sykes to discuss his raw and personal new book, "Renegade." show notes: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/723495/renegade-by-adam-kinzinger-with-michael-dantonio/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/723495/renegade-by-adam-kinzinger-with-michael-dantonio/ </a> </div>

Dauer: 40 min

Our Exhausted Politics

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<div>Trump talked about a new Muslim ban and the media barely covered it. Meanwhile, the House only could choose a pro-coup speaker. The biggest danger to democracy is simple exhaustion. Plus, Biden and the alpha male issue. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. </div>

Dauer: 47 min

Josh Kraushaar: The Pro-Hamas Left

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<div>The vast majority of Democrats support Israel, but a very loud, younger segment on the left is lending its support to the terrorist group Hamas—with marches on university campuses, extremist slogans, and outright hatred toward Jews. Josh Kraushaar joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 39 min

The Bulwark: Live from New Orleans

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<div>Sarah, Mona, and Sonny join Tim in The Big Easy to talk about new Speaker Mike Johnson, Biden, Israel, and left-wing antisemitism.</div>

Dauer: 43 min

Flipping Is in the Air

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<div>Jenna Ellis will not be the last flip in Georgia, former Trump water carrier Michael Cohen testifies about the fudged books, and the confusing case of Mark Meadows. Plus, Republicans are backing "Jim Jordan in drag" for speaker. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.</div>

Dauer: 43 min

Jonathan Martin: The Antibodies Resisting the Virus

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<div>Remnants of the pre-Trump party are hanging on and putting the brakes on MAGA in the House, B-lister lawyer Jenna Ellis shows her deep loyalty to Trump, and Biden is ignoring the biggest threat to his reelection. Jonathan Martin joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/18/gop-party-house-speaker-00122371">https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/18/gop-party-house-speaker-00122371</a> </div>

Dauer: 39 min

The GOP Is a Failed State

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<div>House Republicans don't have a platform, and in the absence of Trump, they can't pull together. Plus, the anti-Israel left vs Biden, and the fallout from Hamas' hospital propaganda campaign. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 43 min

John Avlon: Is the Center Finding Its Spine?

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<div>Republican threats and bullying have finally gone too far when it comes to Jim Jordan. But what about the red line that has to be crossed for stable governance? A deal with the Dems. John Avlon joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 44 min

A Bad Day for the Kraken

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<div>Sidney Powell pleaded guilty and agreed to testify for the state in Georgia—Trump's legal woes just took a turn for the worse. Plus, Jim Jordan's bad day, and a plea for social media types to wait for the facts before weighing in on the Israel-Hamas war. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/on-strategy-law-and-morality-in-israel-s-gaza-operation">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/on-strategy-law-and-morality-in-israel-s-gaza-operation </a> <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/to-gag-or-not-to-gag-a-first-amendment-showdown-in-the-jan.-6-case">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/to-gag-or-not-to-gag-a-first-amendment-showdown-in-the-jan.-6-case </a> </div>

Dauer: 48 min

Ryan Reilly: The Sleuths Who Helped Nab Jan 6 Rioters

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<div>Ordinary Americans pored through reams of digital evidence to ID hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol. And in the process, the sedition hunters became an invaluable resource to a technologically-strained FBI. Plus, figuring out what's real and what's not in the internet age. Ryan Reilly joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/ryan-j-reilly/sedition-hunters/9781541701809/?lens=publicaffairs">https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/ryan-j-reilly/sedition-hunters/9781541701809/?lens=publicaffairs </a> </div>

Dauer: 44 min

Kara Swisher: Jim Jordan, Legislative Terrorist

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<div>Jim Jordan spent the weekend bullying moderates, but threatening shame on social media and Fox may not be enough. Plus, narcissistic tech bros and the fake videos and disinformation around the Israel-Hamas war. Kara Swisher joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 39 min

Will Saletan: Don't Forget Who Jim Jordan Is

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<div>Jordan was not just another Republican who voted against the election—he was behind the scenes in strategy meetings plotting how to keep the election's loser in power. Plus, the laws of war and Israel v Hamas. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 44 min

Tom Nichols: Testing the System 'Til It Breaks

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<div>The Republicans elevated fringe players who have no interest in governing, and now they don't have enough members to get the House functioning again. Meanwhile, the international bad guys are trying to break the system. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/left-jewish-suffering-israel-hamas/675621/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/left-jewish-suffering-israel-hamas/675621/</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/opinion/columnists/israel-gaza-massacre-left.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/opinion/columnists/israel-gaza-massacre-left.html</a> </div>

Dauer: 54 min

An Undue Risk of Conviction

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<div>Jack Smith signaled he will be able to prove why Trump held onto the classified documents. Plus, Trump’s claim of presidential immunity, chaos in the House, and the pro-Hamas left’s justification of murder. Ben Wittes joins Charles Sykes for The Trump trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/p/how-not-to-respond-to-a-terrorist">https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/p/how-not-to-respond-to-a-terrorist</a> </div>

Dauer: 42 min

Susan Glasser: A Superpower in Crisis

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<div>The U.S. is knee-deep in the war in Ukraine, and now another potentially enormous war in the Mideast may draw us in. At the same time, military and ambassadorial appointments have been blocked, and we don’t have a speaker of the House. Our own political crisis is undermining America's role in the world. Susan Glasser joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/16/trial-by-combat">https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/16/trial-by-combat</a> </div>

Dauer: 40 min

Steve Inskeep: Kevin Is No Lincoln

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<div>Lincoln's political skills were a key part of his legacy, but the politics he practiced were not like today's base-oriented version. He didn't demonize people—and built a majority with people he disagreed with. The House GOP currently has lost sight of that. Steve Inskeep joins Charlie Sykes to discuss his new book on Lincoln, "Differ We Must." show notes: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/670070/differ-we-must-by-steve-inskeep/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/670070/differ-we-must-by-steve-inskeep/</a> </div>

Dauer: 43 min

Will Saletan: Israel's 9/11

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<div>The attack by Hamas on Israel was barbaric, but the incursion—by land, sea, and air—was also sophisticated. And it was an Israeli intel failure. Meanwhile, Republicans are trying to score political points at home by blaming the Biden administration—and trying to figure out how to end the paralysis in the House. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 47 min

The GOP’s Rubik’s Cube for Morons

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<div>The Republicans have been on a trajectory to get a Jim Jordan-style speaker for 11 years, and the Democrats couldn’t have stopped it. Plus, Liz Cheney speaks truth, Greg Gutfeld has a Napoleon complex, and Trump spills nuclear secrets. Tim MIller’s back with Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 49 min

The Crazed Slavering Jackal Caucus

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<div>The Crazed Slavering Jackal Caucus is running the GOP. Plus, Giuliani's drinking may undermine Trump's defense in the Jan 6 case, Fani Willis gets her first flip, and Trump may say he's just embellishing, but claiming the Trump Tower apartment is 3x its actual size is just plain lying. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/p/the-game-theory-of-a-vacant-speakership">https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/p/the-game-theory-of-a-vacant-speakership</a> <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-the-heck-happened-in-coffee-county-georgia">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-the-heck-happened-in-coffee-county-georgia</a> </div>

Dauer: 39 min

Tim O'Brien: The Hollow Men

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<div>Kevin McCarthy aspired to the speakership for his resume, not because of legislative talents. In the end, he was a victim of hubris. And in NYC, Trump is acting like Yosemite Sam, shooting himself in the foot, and fearing the loss of Trump Tower. Tim O'Brien joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-10-02/new-york-says-trump-committed-fraud-now-comes-the-price-tag?srnd=undefined">https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-10-02/new-york-says-trump-committed-fraud-now-comes-the-price-tag?srnd=undefined</a> </div>

Dauer: 41 min

Dana Milbank: The Chair Was Already Vacant

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<div>Kevin McCarthy hasn't been doing much of anything all year as speaker, except lurching from crisis to crisis and leading from behind. Meanwhile, Trump is much more angry about being seen as less rich than potentially going to prison. Dana Milbank joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 38 min

Will Saletan: Everybody Hates Matt Gaetz

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<div>The bipartisan loathing of Gaetz is almost a kumbaya moment. Meanwhile, Trump likes to say the US is turning into a third world country, and he's working on that with his calls to shoot shoplifters and execute drug dealers. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 52 min

David Frum: The Kraken Is Never Coming

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<div>The first impeachment hearing was panned on both sides, while House Republicans keep promising a new unicorn. Plus, the GOP is not going to follow Trump's abortion pivot, Biden gets an assist from Cindy McCain, and charting the future of conservatism. David Frum joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. show notes: <a href="https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/jack-beatty/the-rascal-king/9780306810022/">https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/jack-beatty/the-rascal-king/9780306810022/</a> </div>

Dauer: 40 min

A.B. Stoddard: A Completely Pointless Debate

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<div>The kids' table debate was a cacophony of speed talking, interruptions, and yelling. Plus, Milley responds to the death threat, more Dems tell Menendez to go, and the bonfire continues to burn on Capitol Hill, with McCarthy handing out the books of matches. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/trump-sold-out-pro-lifers">https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/trump-sold-out-pro-lifers</a> </div>

Dauer: 50 min

Trump’s Empire of Fraud

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<div>The ex-POTUS has been put out of business in New York, after his fraud was found so overwhelming that no trial was needed. Meanwhile, his lawyers are prepping for Alito and Thomas to weigh in on a gag order, and some Republicans go Team Menendez. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials.</div>

Dauer: 46 min

Will Saletan: The Politics of Atonement

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<div>Cassidy Hutchinson atones. Bob Menendez refuses. Plus: the government shutdown about nothing. And MAGA’s war on (checks notes) Taylor Swift. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. </div>

Dauer: 49 min

Trump Ever After: Live from TribFest

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<div>Olivia Nuzzi, Bret Stephens, and Ben Terris joined Charlie Sykes on stage in Austin over the weekend. While the Dems have Gretchen Whitmer to look forward to, the GOP's future may be people like Vivek—because the base must be entertained. Meanwhile, we may be facing a government shutdown because Gaetz and Boebert think it will increase their celebrity status.</div>

Dauer: 62 min

Yascha Mounk: The Identity Trap

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<div>Our democratic order is facing a two-front war. While the immediate crisis may be from the right, the left is presenting its own threats—which only helps make far-right populism stronger. Political scientist and democracy hipster Yashca Mounk discusses his new book with Charlie Sykes on the weekend pod. show notes: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/712961/the-identity-trap-by-yascha-mounk/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/712961/the-identity-trap-by-yascha-mounk/</a> </div>

Dauer: 52 min

A Raging Bull Elephant

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<div>Trump is trying to intimidate witnesses and jurors in the election case, and Chutkan's only remedy may be to move up the trial date. Plus, Republicans embarrassed themselves with the AG, the Epps conspiracy may never go away, and a new witness emerges in the docs case. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/on-clerks-and-caimans-jeffrey-clark-s-removal-hearing">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/on-clerks-and-caimans-jeffrey-clark-s-removal-hearing</a> <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-s-motion-for-recusal-of-judge-chutkan-is-extraordinarily-weak">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-s-motion-for-recusal-of-judge-chutkan-is-extraordinarily-weak</a> </div>

Dauer: 50 min

Manu Raju: The Hostage Crisis on Capitol Hill

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<div>House Republicans are bickering and calling each other names, while the Matt Gaetz caucus threatens to hold the country hostage with a government shutdown. Meanwhile, Senate Republicans think the dress code change is the most important story of the week. Manu Raju joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 41 min

Ruy Teixeira: Biden’s Working Class Blues

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<div>The system feels rigged for the millionaires and the billionaires, and the populist red lights are flashing for 2024. Can the Democrats get back to being for the little guy, or will the man with the golden toilets convince them he's on their side? The Liberal Patriot's Ruy Teixeira joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 44 min

Will Saletan: In Defense of Kristen Welker

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<div>Trump threw the pro-life movement under the bus in his NBC interview, and essentially pleaded the Fifth on Jan 6. Plus, Jack Smith wants a gag order, and Boebert the groper generated some amazing headlines. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 48 min

Anne Applebaum: Musk Buys Russia’s Lies

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<div>The billionaire was duped by Russian nuclear propaganda, but he's not the only one in the West who worries about provoking Russia by helping Ukraine. Plus, Putin's role in the far-right echo chamber, and why Romney stood up to Trump. Anne Applebaum joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/elon-musk-let-russia-scare-him/675282/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/elon-musk-let-russia-scare-him/675282/</a> </div>

Dauer: 42 min

Did the FBI Get a Pass on Jan 6?

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<div>Romney's text message to Mitch McConnell renews questions about what law enforcement knew ahead of the attack on the Capitol. Plus, the weak counter-programming planned for Trump's prosecutions, and the foolish ploy against Judge Chutkan. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for the Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/five-observations-about-the-georgia-special-purpose-grand-jury-report">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/five-observations-about-the-georgia-special-purpose-grand-jury-report</a> </div>

Dauer: 50 min

A.B. Stoddard: McCarthy's Month from Hell

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<div>The speaker is trying to sate the MAGA wing with a sham impeachment, and maybe a government shutdown, but it will never be satisfied. Plus, Ignatius steps into the fray on Biden, and a badly behaved Boebert gets ejected. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: Lauren Boebert being escorted from a performance of the "Beetlejuice" musical in Denver. <a href="https://youtu.be/FSwq_AIg-tE?si=aPteAoF5lPhARiZF">https://youtu.be/FSwq_AIg-tE?si=aPteAoF5lPhARiZF</a> <a href="https://newrepublic.com/post/175322/democrats-raskin-letter-subpoena-jared-kushner-affinity-partners">https://newrepublic.com/post/175322/democrats-raskin-letter-subpoena-jared-kushner-affinity-partners</a> </div>

Dauer: 51 min

James Hohmann: Kevin in a Vise

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<div>McCarthy has caved on an impeachment inquiry so he can hold onto his gavel. Meanwhile, Congress should really be investigating Elon Musk's power as a defense contractor and his potential conflicts of interest. James Hohmann joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 39 min

Will Saletan: Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier

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<div>Biden giving a press conference while jet-lagged may not quell rising concerns about his age. Plus, Kamala sticks to the script on abortion, Trump can't wait to sic his AG on opponents, and Good Nikki faces off with Bad Nikki. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 50 min

Tim Miller: Down to Clown

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<div>Tucker is in some corner of Elon's basement testing to see what he can get away with, while Elon is cozying up with Putin. Plus, Santos' oppo on himself, and the potential Saudi deal. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 52 min

Trump Keeps Admitting His Crimes

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<div>Trump did himself no favors talking to Hugh Hewitt, the Proud Boys could've spared themselves a lot of prison time, the Fulton case may move quickly, E. Jean Carroll wins again, and when will the cascade of witness flipping start? Lawfare's Ben Wittes and Roger Parloff join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. </div>

Dauer: 52 min

Adam Kinzinger: Trump Ignited the Proud Boys

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<div>Never forget it was Donald Trump telling the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by" which ultimately set Jan 6 in motion. And now he's retconning that day as some kind of 1776 moment. Adam Kinzinger joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 48 min

Will Saletan: The Hammer Philosophy of Governing

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<div>Republican leaders in Wisconsin sound like they're planning an end-run around democracy, Musk is running with one of the oldest antisemitic tropes in the world, and even MAGA Republicans in Texas don't like Ken Paxton. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 46 min

Tim Miller: Heroes and Zeroes of the GOP

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<div>How different would things be if other Republicans had stood up to MAGA like the way Kemp did for Fani Willis? Plus, Ted Cruz tried on beer-swilling tough guy, Candace sampled the Trump playbook, and the BS behind the political consultant game. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the long weekend pod.</div>

Dauer: 49 min

Justice for Ruby and Shaye

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<div>Giuliani is going to pay $$$$ for defaming Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss—and Trump may too, for his financial statements in New York. Meanwhile, ex-POTUS faces a criminal trial before the RNC, and Mark Meadows sounded wishy-washy in Georgia. Ben Wittes and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/mark-meadows-takes-the-stand">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/mark-meadows-takes-the-stand</a> <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-has-jan.-6-trial-date-and-it-s-the-eve-of-super-tuesday">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/trump-has-jan.-6-trial-date-and-it-s-the-eve-of-super-tuesday</a> </div>

Dauer: 48 min

Mike Murphy: The Psychopath vs The Cynic

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<div>Does cynical Nikki Haley have the guts to run an edgier campaign? Plus, Vivek's Hermain Cain moment, Iowa's unpredictable caucus voters, and the denialism about Grandpa Joe. Mike Murphy joins Charlie Sykes today. </div>

Dauer: 41 min

2024 Will Be a Train Wreck

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<div>From Trump's court calendar to concerns about Biden's age, we may be underestimating how bad next year could be. Plus, Mark Meadows' dubious claims about Georgia, Vivek and the show, lefty book bans, and the MAGA mob effort to blackmail us out of a constitutional republic. David French joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 45 min

Charlie and Will Monday: Vivek’s BS

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<div>The new hotness, Ramaswamy, is serving up a load of bull. Plus, the risks of our political gerontocracy, the mug shot heard 'round the world, and of course, most GOP presidential candidates would vote for a convicted felon before Biden. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.</div>

Dauer: 50 min

Tim Miller: We Told You So

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<div>We were always going to get this first-of-its-kind presidential portrait. What else would you expect from a con man and a criminal? But this is all because of the choices Trump made, and because the party has refused to take every single off-ramp. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. </div>

Dauer: 51 min

A.B. Stoddard: A Pointless Exercise?

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<div>At Wednesday's debate, Ramaswamy touched all the MAGA erogenous zones, Haley had a great night while Tim Scott did not, and DeSantis seemed to shrink even more. But as the debate audience made clear, no one can say bad things about the No. 1 guy's crimes. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 44 min

When the Hammer Comes Down

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<div>Almost nothing concentrates the mind more than an indictment, so expect other minor players in Trumpland—especially in Georgia—to flip on the don. Plus, the constitutional argument for blocking Trump's candidacy. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for a special edition of The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/dry-run-ouster-county-official-insurrectionist-creates-ominous-precedents-trump">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/dry-run-ouster-county-official-insurrectionist-creates-ominous-precedents-trump </a> </div>

Dauer: 48 min

Tom Nichols: Our Surreal Moment

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<div>Trump's co-defendants don't even dispute what they're accused of doing—they just claim it wasn't illegal. Plus, will the debate penetrate Fox's hermetically sealed silos, despite the ex-president's attempt to counter-program? Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes today.</div>

Dauer: 53 min

Joe Perticone and Mona Charen: Trusting the Chronic Liar over the Pastor

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<div>The base gives Trump higher marks for speaking truth than they give to religious leaders, Vivek will be targeted at the debate, DeSantis turns on MAGA, Biden needs to tackle the age issue, and the media keeps both-sidesing political scandal. Joe Perticone and Mona Charen join Charlie Sykes.</div>

Dauer: 51 min

DeSantis’s WTF Memo

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<div>The governor of Florida is being treated like a low-IQ child. Meanwhile, Trump hasn't been treated like the common criminal he is: mugshot him, weigh him, jail him. Plus, the Democrats' Senate leadership is MIA. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. </div>

Dauer: 50 min

Thumbprints on a Conspiracy?

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<div>Could Trump have been dumb enough to use Twitter DMs for his plot? Plus, the dangers of not fearing the law, the politics of four indictments, and the irony of whining about election fraud and then being indicted for conspiring to commit it. Ben Wittes and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-fulton-county-indictment-an-initial-examination">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-fulton-county-indictment-an-initial-examination</a> <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-the-heck-happened-in-coffee-county-georgia">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/what-the-heck-happened-in-coffee-county-georgia</a> </div>

Dauer: 54 min

Christopher Miller: The War Came to Us

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A one-time Peace Corps volunteer, Chris Miller was posted to Ukraine, fell in love with it, and decided to stay. Now, he's one of the best Ukraine correspondents. Miller joins Charlie Sykes to discuss Zelensky, the state of the war, and Ukraine's existential fight. show notes: <a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/war-came-to-us-9781399406857/">https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/war-came-to-us-9781399406857/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

A.B. Stoddard: All the Ex-President's Conspirators

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Donald Trump has been a low-rent mobster for his entire career, and now he's getting the indictment he deserves. And this time, some of co-conspirators are likely to flip. Plus, how the Big Lie plays at next week's debate. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Ep.7: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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Even with Trump out of the White House, Lindsey Graham says that Trump is the organizing principle of the Republican Party. And everything that the senator once valued—national security, human rights, and the Constitution—plays second fiddle to his loyalty to Trump. This special series, The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, has been presented by The Bulwark Podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Tim Miller: They're Still Humoring Him

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Remember one of the worst quotes in history about just 'humoring' Trump after he lost in '20? Well, he's creating another threatening climate. Plus, Tim's reporting trip to Iowa, Pence gets a little loose, and Tim and Charlie share some life advice. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Trump Baits the Judge

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The ex-POTUS's ugly threats and intimidation against Jack Smith, Fani Willis, and Judge Chutkan will only escalate. Plus, the fake electors are the real voter fraud, there's likely evidence of crimes inside Trump's Twitter account, and the risks of prosecution vs letting him walk. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Will Hurd: Don't Kiss Your Opponent's Butt

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The former Texas congressman says he's running for president because America deserves a sane conservative party—while Trump is running to stay out of prison. And licking Trump's boots is no way to beat him. Hurd joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 37 min

Jake Tapper: "All the Demons Are Here"

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The CNN anchor and author re-visits the 70s with a new thriller, featuring a Murdoch-esque character getting his toehold in American journalism, and Evel Knievel—a Trump precursor—reimagined as a presidential candidate. Plus, the media's Trump coverage and Fox's lucrative lies. Jake Tapper joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jake-tapper/all-the-demons-are-here/9780316424387/?lens=little-brown">https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jake-tapper/all-the-demons-are-here/9780316424387/?lens=little-brown</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 36 min

Ep. 6: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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After the 2020 election, Lindsey Graham had a chance to be free—of Donald Trump, and all the rationalizing he had done for four years. But the senator was no longer his own man: He now belonged to Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 41 min

Adam Kinzinger: The Rhetoric Is Getting More Dangerous

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Lindsey Graham says the federal courts in DC are illegitimate, the FBI is being called the Gestapo, and Charlie Kirk is casually talking about an execution of Joe Biden. How do we come back from this? Adam Kinzinger joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Trump’s Bogus Defenses

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Trump defenders are arguing that the charges in the latest indictment infringe on his free speech rights, but using words to carry out crimes is not protected by the First Amendment. Plus, Pence gets a backbone, and the tough new judge on the scene. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-big-one-trump-is-indicted-for-jan.-6">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-big-one-trump-is-indicted-for-jan.-6</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

Susan Glasser: An Offense against Democracy Itself

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Jack Smith has filed a case for the ages. It's not only an indictment of the Big Lie itself, but also of the charlatans who knowingly and consciously used fraud, deceit, and violence to try to impose their political will when they had failed through democratic means. Susan Glasser joins Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Bonus Episode: Listen to the Third Indictment

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A federal grand jury indicted Donald Trump on Tuesday with a series of crimes related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. The 45-page indictment accuses Trump of three conspiracies, plus a fourth count of allegedly obstructing an official proceeding. This bonus episode of The Trump Trials is a reading of the second federal indictment, and was produced using an artificial voice generator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 90 min

David French: Building a Legal Wall around Trump

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Trump's high floor of support—the voters who think God sent him to save the country—combined with some of Biden's weaknesses, can put Trump back in the White House. Plus, the success of our legal institutions, and the puzzling DeSantis campaign. David French joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/opinion/jan-6-legal.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/opinion/jan-6-legal.html</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Ep. 5: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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By the time of the Ukraine scandal and impeachment, Lindsey Graham and other Republicans had grown tired of defending Trump's corrupt behavior. But they didn't blame Trump—they blamed the investigators, and essentially handed Trump the power to do as he pleased. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 35 min

Bonus Episode: Listen to the Superseding Indictment

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Federal prosecutors have added new charges against Trump in the classified documents case, including his alleged efforts to have security camera footage deleted at Mar-a-Lago. This bonus episode of The Trump Trials is a reading of the superseding indictment, and was produced using an artificial voice generator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 71 min

Russell Moore: "Losing Our Religion"

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We are living in a time when an evangelical pastor can literally quote Jesus Christ and a theo-bro will tell him he's weak and woke. How did we get here? And do we get out? Dr. Russell Moore discusses his new book on the weekend pod with Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/709965/losing-our-religion-by-russell-moore/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/709965/losing-our-religion-by-russell-moore/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

The Power of Whataboutism

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Republicans are going to launch an impeachment inquiry against Biden to divert attention from the crimes of the ex-POTUS, Rudy is an admitted defamer, and Trump's lawyers met with Jack Smith. Plus, deciphering the screw-up around Hunter's plea deal. Lawfare's Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-last-time-the-justice-department-prosecuted-election-interference-under-section-241">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-last-time-the-justice-department-prosecuted-election-interference-under-section-241</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

Asa Hutchinson: Why I’m Doing This

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The presidential candidate and former Arkansas governor wants to take the Republican Party in the direction of public service and conservative principles—and away from Donald Trump, who has made it a losing party that is only about him. Gov. Asa Hutchinson joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/elaine-massacre-of-1919-1102/">https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/elaine-massacre-of-1919-1102/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

The Drama and Reality of 'Oppenheimer'

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The film captures the race against the Nazis to develop the first atomic bomb, and Oppenheimer's genius and torment as well. Mona Charen and Sonny Bunch sit in for Charlie Sykes to break it down. *INCLUDES SPOILERS* Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 38 min

Ep. 4: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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After the 2018 midterms, Lindsey Graham moved to a new stage of collaboration with Trump. Graham was no longer just protecting him from accountability—he began helping Trump to usurp power. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 38 min

Will Saletan: All for the Fan Service

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The dick pics, RFK, jr,'s testimony, and McCarthy's promise to expunge impeachment records are all for the base. Plus, DeSantis should GTFO of Twitter, the legitimacy of the courts needs to be preserved, and never forget that the ex-POTUS is a RAPIST. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 56 min

Indictment Day

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Jack Smith will move very quickly on a new indictment, numerous court appearances and trials can be quite disruptive to a presidential campaign, and Trump may have violated civil rights laws by trying to block qualified votes from being counted. Lawfare's Ben Wittes and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/judge-cannon-holds-a-hearing">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/judge-cannon-holds-a-hearing</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Miles Taylor: Imagining a Trump 2.0

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Plans are already being drawn up for Trump's revenge plans in a second term, including special counsels to investigate Trump's enemies, a "Sue the Blue" DOJ targeting Democrats, and judicial gerrymandering. Plus, Trump's incestuous Ivanka fantasies. Miles Taylor joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Blowback/Miles-Taylor/9781668015988">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Blowback/Miles-Taylor/9781668015988</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 38 min

Tom Nichols: Jack Smith Is Not Screwing Around

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Going after a former president for an attempted coup had seemed like 'mission impossible,' but the special counsel is going big. Meanwhile, Republicans defending him don't seem to care about their country or the Constitution, and the only job Trump could get now is POTUS. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/rock-me-on-the-water-ronald-brownstein?variant=39387579023394">https://www.harpercollins.com/products/rock-me-on-the-water-ronald-brownstein?variant=39387579023394</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Ep. 3: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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After Trump's first year in office, the power shifted in Washington. Republicans went from humoring Trump to fearing him. Lindsey Graham surrendered to Trump, and began demonizing anyone who posed a threat to him. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 35 min

Why Are People Still Sticking With Trump After All This?

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Cassidy Hutchinson and Sarah Matthews had gumption, while the grown-ass men who were their bosses did not. Plus, the billion $$$ cottage industry around Trump isn't backing him because they believe in him, DeSantis should be ashamed, and what it's like to be on The View. Alyssa Farah joins guest host Tim Miller. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 49 min

Indictments for All the President's Men?

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Prosecuting Trump for Jan 6 presents novel issues, but that's not the case when it comes to Giuliani, Flynn, and Mark Meadows—and charges may be imminent. Plus, a grand jury is seated in Georgia, the Oath Keepers may serve more time, and focus groups are reacting to Trump's legal woes. Ben Wittes joins guest host Sarah Longwell for The Trump Trials. show notes: <a href="https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/they-ll-be-in-the-room-where-it-happens">https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/they-ll-be-in-the-room-where-it-happens</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 54 min

Philip Bump: The Self-Disappearing Informant

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House Republicans keep stepping on rakes when it comes to Hunter Biden: Turns out their 'missing informant' is a fugitive accused of working for the Chinese government. Plus, Dairy Queen is a red-country restaurant and Trump is still an outsider. Philip Bump joins guest host Sonny Bunch. show notes: <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/10/trump-iowa-dairy-queen/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/10/trump-iowa-dairy-queen/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 34 min

Jay Nordlinger: The Poisonous Nature of Strength Worship

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The masculinity contest in the Republican presidential primary ramps up, Chris Christie keeps dropping truth bombs, and the trans issue is the new wall. Plus, Sweden, Ukraine and NATO, and a debate over ending legacy admissions. Jay Nordlinger joins guest host Mona Charen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 40 min

Ep. 2: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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Within days of the 2016 election, Lindsey Graham began transforming into Trump's chief apologist—in an effort to influence him on national security and foreign policy. But to get Trump to stand up to tyrants overseas, the senator soon found himself willing to compromise on rule of law at home. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan. Read The Corruption of Lindsey Graham in PDF or Kindle formats at <a href="http://thebulwark.com/lindseygraham">thebulwark.com/lindseygraham</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 28 min

Tommy Vietor: David Plouffe Would Have Murdered Us

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How Obamaworld views the weird attempt by Team DeSantis to mimic Ted Cruz's failed 2016 campaign. Plus, Dems need to stop worrying about Biden and Kamala gaffes, pols like Gavin Newsom need to go on Joe Rogan, and Tim Miller has a world news quiz. Tommy Vietor joins Tim, who's sitting in for Charlie Sykes on the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 52 min

Trump Is Going Down

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The docs case against Trump is bigger than Snowden's, the people of South Florida should be cut more slack as a jury pool, and the media is largely ignoring the case of the armed Jan 6 defendant who was outside Obama's home. Ben Wittes joins guest host Tim Miller for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

A.B. Stoddard: Governing Is for Wimps

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House Republicans are racing to the crazy again as they try to nail down who they're going to impeach. Plus, gaming out why Biden gets so little credit for the economy, and the GOP presidential debate stage may end up quite small. A.B. Stoddard joins guest host Mona Charen. show notes: <a href="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/07/05/no_matter_who_shows_the_debates_will_bolster_trump_149457.html">https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/07/05/no_matter_who_shows_the_debates_will_bolster_trump_149457.html</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 33 min

Ep. 1: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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Lindsey Graham was once one of Donald Trump's fiercest critics—before becoming one of his most important collaborators. His eventual capitulation is really a story about what happened to the whole Republican Party. The Bulwark Podcast presents The Corruption of Lindsey Graham, with Will Saletan. Read The Corruption of Lindsey Graham in PDF or Kindle formats at <a href="http://thebulwark.com/lindseygraham">thebulwark.com/lindseygraham</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 27 min

Mark Hertling: How Dangerous Were the Trump Docs?

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If Trump wanted to impress a memoir writer with classified documents, wouldn't he also want to do the same with Putin and MBS? Plus, will the US supply cluster munitions to Ukraine? And the nesting doll of dysfunction in Russia. Lt. Gen Mark Hertling joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 40 min

TRAILER The Bulwark Podcast Presents: The Corruption of Lindsey Graham

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Will Saletan has a story to tell: It’s about what’s happened to the United States since Donald Trump began his rise to power eight years ago. It’s about authoritarianism in our own country. But it's not a story about Trump. It’s about his collaborators, and in particular, one collaborator: Senator Lindsey Graham. This special summer podcast series will explain what happened to Graham, and how the story of his gradual corruption can help us to understand how an entire political party, and half of our country, fell under the sway of a candidate, and then a president, who openly attacks democracy, the Constitution, and the rule of law. "The Corruption of Lindsey Graham" starts July 3. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 1 min

Trump’s Bravado Defense

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Charging Trump for Jan 6 just got meaningfully harder after a Supreme Court ruling that has nothing to do with storming the Capitol. Plus, Rudy was Queen for a Day, John Eastman loses in a big way, and the end of affirmative action in higher ed. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Seth Masket: Trending Trump

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Grassroots Republican leaders increasingly favor Trump, and he's getting significantly more coverage on CNN than the other candidates. Plus, when Democrats lose, they tend to move to the center. When Republicans do, they tend to move harder right. Seth Masket joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://smotus.substack.com/">https://smotus.substack.com/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Ben Terris: It's Not Going Back to Normal

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Why is DC so weird? The Washington Post's Ben Terris describes his hitchhiker's guide through the backrooms of Washington to show why normal is not coming back after Trump. Today's pod with Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/ben-terris/the-big-break/9781538708057/?lens=twelve">The Big Break by Ben Terris</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Will Saletan: A Wannabe Coup

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After this weekend's mutiny in Russia, the world is suddenly seeing Putin in a new light. Meanwhile, America's wannabe authoritarian goes full martyr, and Chris Christie is making it safe to say Voldemort again. Will Saletan joins guest host Mona Charen today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Tim O'Brien: A Clown Rodeo

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The celebrification of running for president continues to grow, Boebert and MTG are a couple of ignoramuses, Schiff gets censured instead of Santos, RFK Jr is a Putin stooge, and Trump is a joke—but the joke's on us. Tim O'Brien joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 36 min

Trump’s TV Strategy

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Trump keeps undermining his own defense, but he's not wrong that if he wins, he can make the cases against him go away. Plus, John Durham gets humiliated again, and justice was served on behalf of police officer Michael Fanone. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 41 min

Andrew Weissmann: Jack Smith Cometh

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Special Counsel Jack Smith is racing the clock, Justices Alito and Thomas seem to be taking cues from Donald Trump's "What are you gonna do about it?" approach to following rules, Republicans are against the IRS and gun laws unless Hunter is involved, and Barr's about-face is way too little, way too late. Andrew Weissmann joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Chris Christie: Why I Want to Beat Trump

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Gov. Christie joins Charlie Sykes to explain campaign strategy, his error in judgment in 2016, and how Trump knows he lost. Plus, why Trump voters expect him to join the candidate debates, and the worst manager in the history of the presidency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 40 min

Will Saletan: Welcome to the Resistance, Bill Barr

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Former AG Barr protected Trump while he obstructed justice, but he's now staked out a spot in the anti-Trump coalition. Plus, Tim Scott tests out being a hack, Pence lacks self-awareness, and did Merrick Garland self-deter? Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 51 min

Tim Miller: A Season of Grifters and Crackpots

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Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has found the sweet spot in the horseshoe— between QAnon-ers waiting for JFK, Jr. and the weirdo, anti-vaxxers in the Dems. Plus, grifting tech bros, the likely malice behind No Labels, and Marco's relief that Trump is (probably) not a spy. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

Jack Smith's Steely-Eyed Gaze

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The special prosecutor had his eyes on Trump during the arraignment, but Trump—who seemed tired and resigned—didn't even look at him once. Plus, what if Judge Aileen Cannon assists the ex-POTUS with his defense? Lawfare's Ben Wittes and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes for The Trials of Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Adam Kinzinger: The Freak Prom

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Trump likes to convey that he is invincible and has a massive army of people behind him. But he's scared and deflated. And many in the cult behind him are wanna-be celebs—or were the uncool kids in high school. Plus, the Freedom Caucus revolt in the House. Adam Kinzinger joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Michael Weiss: Perp Walks and Counteroffensives

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Even after winning the White House, Trump is still the consummate grifter who's got no time for political correctness or following the law—whether it's a parking ticket or a federal crime. Plus, the Ukrainian counteroffensive and the dam disaster. Michael Weiss joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1668358841895927813?s=20">https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1668358841895927813?s=20</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

Will Saletan: A World Series of Whataboutism

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Republicans spent the weekend defending Trump by pointing to Biden, Pence, other ex-presidents, and of course, Hillary. In MAGA-land, he's always exempt from responsibility. Meanwhile, their excuses could set off a mob—again. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 51 min

Listen to the Indictment

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This is a reading of the classified documents indictment against former President Trump that was unsealed by the Justice Department on Friday. Parts of the text have been edited for clarity and ease of listening. The recording was produced using an artificial voice generator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 52 min

Tim Miller and Bill Kristol: Rally Around the Felon

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Fox calls Trump's prosecution an insurrection. The GOP shrug off his hoarding, hiding, and sharing of top secret national security docs. But our justice system is working, and the feds are going to perp walk an ex-POTUS for the first time. Bill Kristol and Tim Miller join Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 58 min

Wait, Is This Guy a Freakin' Criminal?

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Jack Smith will need a barn burner of a case, rich in facts, and one that holds up under the scrutiny of conservative legal analysts on Fox. Plus, Pence is simultaneously for the rule of law and letting Trump slide. Ben Wittes is back with Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 48 min

A.B. Stoddard: Christie Brought the Hot Sauce

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Chris Christie launched his presidential campaign by calling out Trump—and hit him on the kleptocracy, the hypocrisy, and the lying. Plus, the Freedom Caucus punishes McCarthy, Licht only had an elevator pitch—not a plan for CNN, and the PGA rolls over for the Saudis. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Astead Herndon: Our Broken Politics

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Too many of today's politicians don't care that they are undermining their own parties with messages the general public doesn't support. Plus, the donor class grifting of No Labels, and how the Scott Walker era in Wisconsin prepared us for the Trump era. Astead Herndon joins Charlie Sykes. show notes: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/election-run-up-podcast">https://www.nytimes.com/column/election-run-up-podcast</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Will Saletan: The Dem’s RFK, Jr. Problem

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Steve Bannon and company are helping give anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy a boost in the polls, Trump gets challenged from the right on foreign policy, Haley is fantastically cynical, and CNN tried to make Trump happy. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Tim Miller: Normal v Crazy

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It wasn't like the boring 90s, but politics this week felt almost normal. Meanwhile, Trump's bleats are getting more demented and DeSantis is all-in on attacking him for fast-tracking a vaccine. Plus, the war on Pride Month. Tim Miller is back with Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

Lordy, There Are Tapes

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Trump's own recorded words appear to undercut his already weak defense that he had declassified the documents he took from the White House—and he may have invited a charge under the Espionage Act. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for the latest edition of The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Michael Steele: We're Way Past Kumbaya

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The media thinks the GOP base could still want 'Morning in America,' Citizens United is keeping no-hopers in the race, Charlie totally called it on Tara Reade Biden made McCarthy grow up, and MAGA world turns to infighting. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

Tom Nichols: Knuckleheads with Flamethrowers

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McCarthy cut a normal deal with Biden when the GOP caucus couldn't agree on what to demand—beyond just shouting and pounding the table. Plus, missing Brezhnev, waiting for a haymaker, and DeSantis is angry and weird, but not as dangerous as Trump. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Luke Russert: Look for Me There

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In the summer of 2016, on the eve of the Republican and Democratic conventions, Luke Russert—an NBC News star and a scion of media royalty—walked away from it all. Russert joins Charlie Sykes for a special Memorial Day weekend pod to share a story of parental love, loss, and finding your own way. show notes: <a href="https://www.harpercollinsfocus.com/9780785291817/look-for-me-there/">https://www.harpercollinsfocus.com/9780785291817/look-for-me-there/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Indictment Time?

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Jack Smith is wrapping up his investigation into the Mar-a-Lago classified document collection, and Trump world is bracing for indictments. Plus, defamation, court dates, and the actor playing a human launches his presidential campaign. Ben Wittes and Quinta Jurecic join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

David Frum: Losing the Dominance Primary

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DeSantis claims he doesn't back down, but most of the time, he is flinching and cowering—and now he's allowing Musk to push him around. Plus, Trump v Kamala, felons can't vote for themselves in Florida, and the Russians fighting for Ukraine. David Frum joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/joe-biden-health-versus-donald-trump-indictments/673989/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/joe-biden-health-versus-donald-trump-indictments/673989/</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/durham-report-fbi-trump-russia/674088/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/durham-report-fbi-trump-russia/674088/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 36 min

Philip Bump: Running Against Reality

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Reality is Kari Lake's biggest opponent, Tim Scott is warmly welcomed into a growing candidate field, Biden gets blamed for guns, and younger voters are more likely to vote for Democrats. Plus, did Twitter grave-rob a username for DeSantis? The Washington Post's Philip Bump joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696653/the-aftermath-by-philip-bump/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696653/the-aftermath-by-philip-bump/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 40 min

Will Saletan: Is Tim Scott Running a Potemkin Campaign?

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Are Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pence really running for the VP slot—or a chance to increase their speaking fees? Plus, Trump is still an extortionist, the GOP's not a serious governing party, and Fox created the market for the homeless vet hoax. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 54 min

The Bulwark: Live from New York

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Charlie Sykes and Tim Miller held court on the Upper West Side Thursday night, weighing in on Rudy's medical experiments on himself, Disney's humiliation of DeSantis, Trump's legal setbacks in his own hometown, and more. Plus, Charlie and Tim play "Name That Musical" for your weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Steve Vladeck: The Supreme Court's Shadow Docket

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Justice Alito frequently complains that critics of the court are trying to delegitimize it. But it's the Supreme Court's own actions—including its late-night, unsigned, and unexplained decisions on the shadow docket— that are undermining the institution. Steve Vladeck joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/contributor/stephen-vladeck/">https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/contributor/stephen-vladeck/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

Durham's Fizzle

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John Durham didn't report anything new, and he took longer to produce less useful material than Mueller did to expose Russian election interference in 2016—Mueller also had Flynn and Manafort indicted. Plus, only Benedict Arnold has fallen as far as Rudy. Ben Wittes is back for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Anne Applebaum: The Case for a Complete Ukrainian Victory

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Ukraine's freedom is on the line, but America's role in the world is also at stake. And if a democratic Ukraine can win against autocratic Russia, the world's geopolitics could be altered for a generation. Anne Applebaum joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/06/counteroffensive-ukraine-zelensky-crimea/673781/">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/06/counteroffensive-ukraine-zelensky-crimea/673781/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 35 min

Will Saletan: We Are Not the Crazy Ones

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DeSantis tries to pretend he's normal, James Comer can't find his Biden informants, Republicans are disappointed there's not a bigger crisis at the border, Trump wants Mike QAnon Flynn back as an adviser, and Lindsey can't stop rationalizing. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. <a href="https://specialto.thebulwark.com/p/the-corruption-of-lindsey-graham?itm_source=parsely-api">https://specialto.thebulwark.com/p/the-corruption-of-lindsey-graham?itm_source=parsely-api</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Richard Reeves: The Trouble with Boys

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Girls are blowing past boys in school, and while most men are poorer than they were 50 years ago, women's incomes have risen across the board. A new kind of gender inequality is drawing men into MAGA's poisonous politics. Richard Reeves joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend podcast. show notes: <a href="https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780815739883/Of-Boys-and-Men-Why-the-Modern-Male-Is-Struggling-Why-It-Matters-and-What-to-Do-about-It">https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780815739883/Of-Boys-and-Men-Why-the-Modern-Male-Is-Struggling-Why-It-Matters-and-What-to-Do-about-It</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

Trump vs Law and Order

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From promising a general amnesty to Jan 6 rioters, to re-victimizing E. Jean Carroll on CNN's town hall, and calling a police officer a thug, Trump is sure making it easy for Biden to claim the mantle of law and order. Tim Miller, Ben Wittes, and Roger Parloff join Charlie Sykes for The Trump Trials. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 55 min

The Counteroffensive Against Trump—and Putin

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Turns out that being a star doesn't allow you to get away with sexual assault after all. The GOP still has an 'Access Hollywood' choice, but now there's a $5 million jury verdict. Plus, Tim Mak joins Charlie Sykes from Ukraine to discuss his reporting on life during wartime, beyond "the booms and the bangs." show notes: <a href="https://counteroffensive.substack.com/">https://counteroffensive.substack.com/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 34 min

Felix Salmon: The New Not Normal Economy

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Globalism is dead, the remote work revolution is here to stay, and more people are pursuing their big dreams in smaller cities. The Covid pandemic ushered in a new YOLO economic era. Axios' Felix Salmon joins Charlie Sykes today to discuss the upsides and the downsides. show notes: <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-phoenix-economy-felix-salmon?variant=40694169796642">https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-phoenix-economy-felix-salmon?variant=40694169796642</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 41 min

Will Saletan: A New American Exceptionalism?

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Greg Abbott says gun violence is due to a mental health crisis, not guns. So, America is exceptionally crazy? Plus, a bad poll for Biden, Trump's type of woman, and Will Saletan on how Lindsey Graham can explain the rise of authoritarianism in the US. Will is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 49 min

Tim Miller: The Thomas Family Grift

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Clarence and Ginni are enjoying the grift that keeps on giving, Fox's PR moves are not helping, seditious conspiracy doesn't require actually being at the Capitol on Jan 6, God bless E. Jean Carroll, and Colin Allred vs. the podcaster. The weekend pod with Charlie Sykes and Tim Miller. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/trump-reelection-2024-assault-allegations/673957/">Charlie's Atlantic piece</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reminder-its-all-nonsense-with-rep-colin-allred/id1647085571?i=1000604837361">The Next Level's Colin Allred interview</a> <a href="https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/think-of-trumps-election-as-year-zero">Sarah's Year Zero piece</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 54 min

The Proud Boys: GUILTY

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It was not an Ocean's 11-style conspiracy that convicted the Proud Boys in their sedition case. But the government made a compelling case that the conspirators' goal was to stop the certification of the election by any means necessary. Plus, the E. Jean Carroll rape case, the Fani Willis investigation, and Clarence Thomas' grifting. Lawfare's Ben Wittes, Roger Parloff, and Anna Bower join Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Ben Smith: The Rise and Fall of the Social Media News Age

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The pioneers of the digital media age thought they were building a progressive answer to Drudge—that would help get a Democrat elected in '08. But the architects of the new rightwing populism were also there, watching and learning. Ben Smith discusses his new book, "Traffic," with Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/678592/traffic-by-ben-smith/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/678592/traffic-by-ben-smith/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 39 min

A.B. Stoddard: Normalizing Trump Again

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For the first time since 2016, Trump will be back on CNN for a live event. It's a huge gift to Trump. Will the media once again center their campaign coverage on him—to the disadvantage of the Biden? Plus, McCarthy's new tone on Ukraine. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes today. To continue the conversation go to<a href="%C2%A0https://bulwarkpodcast.thebulwark.com/"> </a><a href="https://bulwarkpodcast.thebulwark.com/.">https://bulwarkpodcast.thebulwark.com/</a><a href="https://bulwarkpodcast.thebulwark.com/.">.</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Will Saletan: The Crassness Is the Point

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Greg Abbott chose to be breathtakingly inhumane, MAGA cancel culture is a runaway train, Biden gets in some good digs, Trump is the biggest victim of all, and McCarthy still doesn't have the votes on the debt ceiling—just insane demands. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Tim Miller: Trump Has Already Ball-Gagged Them in the Basement

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Republicans are so weak and craven: DeSantis has three bad weeks, and they've thrown in the towel—they're not even trying to try to defeat Trump. Plus, Disney reminds conservatives they're supposed to like smaller government, and Tucker is even worse in private. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

The Trump Trials

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State and federal prosecutors may be closing in on Trump, so we've launched a new companion pod—in partnership with Lawfare—that will bring you up to speed on the big legal issues surrounding the former president, and key Trumpworld players. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes for the inaugural episode. show notes <a href="https://www.lawfareblog.com/proud-boys-liveblog">https://www.lawfareblog.com/proud-boys-liveblog</a> <a href="https://www.lawfareblog.com/arraignment-donald-j-trump-detailed-summary">https://www.lawfareblog.com/arraignment-donald-j-trump-detailed-summary</a> To continue the conversation go to<a href="%20https://bulwarkpodcast.thebulwark.com/."> https://bulwarkpodcast.thebulwark.com/.</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

Benjy Sarlin: The Bud Light Freak-Out

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Conservatives surrendered on gay marriage, but kept their fear about societal change bottled up. And now a beer is a stand-in for transgender people they want to pretend don't exist. Plus, Ron DeSantis the weirdo, and Murdoch has zero Tucks to give. Semafor's Benjy Sarlin joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 39 min

Brian Stelter: Tucker Thought He Was Invincible

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Tucker Carlson's firing shocked the media world and Tucker himself. He thought he could say and do anything. What role did Tucker's phony Jan. 6 programming play in the rupture? And does his ouster signal a Fox re-set? Brian Stelter shares his insights with Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 36 min

Will Saletan: How Many Coups Do You Have to Attempt?

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Trump's negative poll numbers are not high enough, Alito couldn't get other justices to go off the cliff with him, and DeSantis can't stop bossing companies around. Plus, hyper-identity politics in the literary world, and the escalation beyond the Second Amendment. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Tim Miller: Our WWE Politics

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Marco Rubio thinks he's in office just to send tweets, No Labels couldn't have picked a worse time for a third-party candidate, and DeSantis' war on woke knows no end. Plus, Fox's 24-hours of fear and paranoia feeds gun violence, and Charlie Sykes issues a mea culpa to Tim Miller. Your weekend pod. show notes For tickets to The Bulwark Live in NYC go to<a href="%C2%A0TheBulwark.com/Events."> TheBulwark.com/Events.</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 54 min

Kara Swisher: Musk's Cry for a Giant Hug

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Elon Musk says that running Twitter is very painful, but it's a pain he brought on himself with firings, stunts, and overpaying for the company. Plus, Kara Swisher and Charlie Sykes discuss the art of podcasting, and the potentially much bigger goal behind the expansion of 'Don't Say Gay.' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Tina Nguyen: The Cost of Fox’s Lies

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The unsettling Dominion settlement, DeSantis is not fooling MAGA, and the "Taliban 20"—who demanded ransom before Kevin McCarthy could become speaker—are now preparing to hold the whole country hostage over the debt ceiling. Puck's Tina Nguyen joins Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Michael Steele: Confronting the Ugliness

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Oklahoma sheriffs pining for lynching, Tennessee legislators trying to teach young Black men a lesson, and Stand Your Ground turning the innocent into victims: Things feel like they're spiraling out of control. Plus, even Trump is trolling DeSantis about his Disney flop. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Will Saletan: What Are You Grooming These Kids to Be?

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At the annual NRA meeting, Kristi Noem bragged about her 2-year-old granddaughter's rifle, while other young kids handled guns. Plus, the GOP is challenged on abortion from inside, DeSantis gets punchy, and Dianne Feinstein digs in. Will Saletan is back for Charlie and Will Monday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Dylan Byers: The Media Trial of the Century?

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Dominion v. Fox is not only about defamation—it's also about the erosion of truth at the network and its impact on our democracy. And with Tucker, Hannity, and Murdoch likely testifying, Fox will also be on trial in the court of public opinion. Puck's Dylan Byers joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 41 min

Mark Hertling: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Gamer

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The military runs on young soldiers, and sometimes, chatroom braggarts who want to share classified documents get recruited too. Plus, the real world damage in Ukraine from the leaks, and Putin's paranoia. Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 40 min

John Harwood: Our Cartoonish Politics

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Trump may excel at firing up resentment in the base, but the party is squandering support from an entire generation of young people. Plus, Alvin Bragg sues Jim Jordan, Tennessee's governor calls for a red flag law, and Missouri Republicans try to defund libraries. John Harwood joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 41 min

Peter Wehner: A Grotesque Leader of a Grotesque Party

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Too many GOP leaders failed to grasp that going along with Trump would increase his hold on the party—and further radicalize the base. Now, the party is being consumed by the monster it created. Plus, Trump goes even further than a mob boss. Peter Wehner joins Charlie Sykes today. Show Notes <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/trump-mar-a-lago-indictment-speech/673639/">Peter's Atlantic piece</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

Will Saletan: The GOP’s Abortion Quagmire

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Republicans have boxed themselves in on abortion, Elon continues his petulance, the knives are out in the House GOP, and Lindsey Graham sheds tears for America's No. 1 TV addict. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 57 min

Tim Miller: Tennessee’s Idiocracy

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The Tennessee GOP lives in such a bubble, they thought it was a good idea to expel two Black legislators, who've now become superstars. Plus, the GOP can't pivot from punitive abortion laws, DeSantis is fighting about the fight, and Trump's election criminality. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 54 min

Jeff Sharlet: Scenes from a Slow Civil War

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In the parts of the country where Ashli Babbitt is a martyr, pastors glorify guns, and conspiracies thrive, the anticipation of some kind of civil war animates the far right. Author and journalist Jeff Sharlet sees an America that is unraveling. He joins Charlie Sykes today. Show Notes: Jeff's book, <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324006497">"The Undertow"</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 57 min

Ben Wittes: The Trump Indictment Is Not Trivial

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Trump's indictment may be tied to his hush money payments, but it's also bound up with democracy concerns. If one more shoe had dropped after Access Hollywood, there may have never been a President Trump. Plus, the Dobbs effect continues in Wisconsin. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes Ben's Substack: <a href="https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/">https://www.dogshirtdaily.com/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 57 min

Tim Alberta: Trump Has an Evangelical Problem

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Trump threw the anti-abortion movement under the bus after losses in the midterms — which prompted a ferocious backlash among evangelicals. He has yet to repair the damage. Apart from criminal prosecution, could the end of Roe end up spelling his political downfall? Tim Alberta joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/03/trump-religious-right-evangelical-vote-pence-desantis-support/673475/">Tim's Atlantic piece</a> <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/american-carnage-tim-alberta?variant=32207768485922">Tim's book, "American Carnage"</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Will Saletan: Individual 1 Gets His Day in Court

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Trump always calls for his enemies to get prosecuted and now he's getting a taste of his own medicine. But will he get to skip the mugshot? Plus, Fox's horrific day in court, and did 60 Minutes help normalize MTG ? Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 53 min

Special Indictment Podcast: Adam Kinzinger, Mona Charen, Will Saletan

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Trump faces a 34-count indictment in New York and more charges may be on the way. But will it hurt him politically, or propel him to the GOP nomination? Adam Kinzinger, Mona Charen, and Will Saletan join Charlie Sykes for the weekend podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 56 min

Tim Miller: DeSantis Whiffs on Disney

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"Tiny D" thought he'd puff up his chest to go after Mickey Mouse — only to get outflanked. Plus, loony GOP state legislators, Wisconsin's $45 million judicial seat, the very un-elite cabal in the Manhattan grand jury, and the torment of not knowing about Annette Funicello. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 53 min

Ruy Teixeira: More Tough Love for Democrats

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While Republicans frequently overdo it on cultural issues, Democrats still are vulnerable on race, gender, and drag queen story hour. They need to stop denying the issues — or taking the bait and attacking Republicans for raising them. Ruy Teixeira joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Judge Michael Luttig: A Betrayal of America

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Trump's incitement of Jan 6 and his call to terminate the constitution were treason-like. And the Republicans who won't renounce him have betrayed the sacred trust Americans have conferred on them. Judge Luttig joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

Will Saletan: The Purest Distillation of Trump

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Down in Waco, Trump was on double duty: Blowing up the DeSantis' campaign on the launch pad, and clearing up any ambiguity about who he really is. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Tim Miller: Ron DeSantis Is Scott Walker

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DeSantis gets over his skis on Ukraine, 'Don't Say Gay' escalates, and it's not racist to criticize the CCP. Plus, the crowd that warns of death and destruction if Trump is indicted said nothing about Trump ripping the country apart. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for your weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 48 min

Shelby Talcott: DeSantis Sticks His Toe in the Water

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Ron DeSantis threw a couple of very small rocks at Trump this week, and he's angling to get to the right of Trump on Covid, and perhaps on abortion as well. Plus, the right-wing influencers voters are listening to. Semafor's Shelby Talcott joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

Michael Steele: Trump Punked Everybody

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Using a page from his well-worn playbook, Trump framed the narrative about the Manhattan grand jury case on his terms. Plus, the white boy frat party atmosphere at the Tucker Carlson show. Michael Steele joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 39 min

Dana Milbank: It’s the Trump Show Again

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The Republican Party had been showing signs it was beginning to move on from Trump, but now it's wrapping itself around him once again — because attention of any kind is Trump's fuel. Plus, a reminder that Kevin McCarthy doesn't believe in anything. Dana Milbank joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 37 min

Susan Glasser: Trump 2024 Is Scarier than Trump 2020

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Trump's rhetoric is more apocalyptic and more confrontational, and the party still can't renounce its addiction to the man. This is Trump without guardrails. Plus, the long shadow the Iraq War has cast on our foreign policy and presidential elections. The New Yorker's Susan Glasser joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes Recent pieces by Susan: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/the-gop-and-the-ghosts-of-iraq">The G.O.P. and the Ghosts of Iraq</a> <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/2024-trump-is-even-scarier-than-2020-trump">2024 Trump Is Even Scarier than 2020 Trump</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 35 min

Tim Miller: Be Alarmed

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Trump is crystal clear that he wants retribution against the people who wouldn't let him remain in office — and he'll pull us out of NATO too. Plus, DeSantis has no personality and no charisma. Tim Miller is back with Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Philip Bump: The Baby Boom Generation Is Winding Down

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America has long responded to the needs of Baby Boomers, and the generation reshaped the country as it grew older. But now, its grip on the direction of America is starting to lessen, and that's creating inter-generational tensions. Philip Bump joins Charlie Sykes today. Show Notes: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696653/the-aftermath-by-philip-bump/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696653/the-aftermath-by-philip-bump/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Tom Nichols: Our Fatal Complacency

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Pence warned us about the threat to our democracy, and we shrugged. Plus, Bethany Mandel can't define woke, Fox can't keep its talking points straight, DeSantis is Trump's Mini Me, and the despicable elitism of the American right. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 49 min

James Hohmann: DeSantis Joins the Surrender Caucus

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Ron DeSantis chose to pander to Tucker Carlson on Ukraine and shows himself as unserious on one of the biggest issues of our time. Plus, socialism for Wall Street and Silicon Valley elites. James Hohmann joins Charlie Sykes for today's podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 39 min

Will Saletan: Pence’s Profile in Half-Courage

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Mike Pence is trying win over the DC press corps but still refuses to do his part to hold Trump accountable for January 6. Plus, the new too-big-to-fail banks, more Fox dirt, and DeSantis is not a natural people person. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 49 min

Tim Miller: Be Happy, Make Babies

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People not having kids because of climate change anxiety are not thinking about a future with Josh Hawley having 100 babies. Plus, sad CPAC, the least charismatic politician among us, and Fox stars in private sound like The Bulwark Podcast. Tim Miller's back with Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 48 min

Adrienne LaFrance: The New Anarchy

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The largest threat of extremist violence right now is coming from the rightwing. But 100 years ago, it came from the left. History can teach us about how America can survive this new phase of domestic terror. The Atlantic's Adrienne LaFrance joins Charlie Sykes today. show notes: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/04/us-extremism-portland-george-floyd-protests-january-6/673088/">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/04/us-extremism-portland-george-floyd-protests-january-6/673088/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 40 min

Matt Gertz: Tucker's Trump Derangement Syndrome

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Tucker has been dining out on how much the media supposedly despises Donald Trump — when by his own admission, he hates Trump with a passion. And his take on Jan 6 is inherently contradictory: It was Nancy's fault, but also not much happened that day. Matt Gertz joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Tucker’s Latest Lies

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Tucker's attempting to white-wash Jan 6, Trump and DeSantis have a thing against prosecutors, Kari says we'll have world peace again with Trump capitulating to Putin, and Michael Knowles intentionally used eliminationist rhetoric about transgenderism. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 53 min

Amb. John Bolton: I Thought Trump Would Be Disciplined

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John Bolton thought he could create a coherent foreign policy for Trump, but now sees he was naive. Plus, Charlie Sykes asks Bolton about his early defense of Trump's relations with Putin — and why he didn't testify during the first impeachment. Bolton spoke with Sykes at the Principles First Summit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Rick Wilson: Why Would MAGA Want Trump-Lite?

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The base wants the sugar, the fat, and the salt — not someone afraid to say how they're different from Trump. Plus, DeSantis doesn't want to face the CPAC straw poll, Trump attacks Fox, and Paul Ryan doesn't see the world has moved on. Rick Wilson joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 56 min

Mehdi Hasan: How to Win Any Argument

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Master interlocutor Mehdi Hasan says come to a debate prepared — bring receipts and know the other side's best argument better than they do. And Democrats: The heart beats the head almost every time. So, don't bring a policy paper to a knife fight. Hasan joins Charlie Sykes today. Show Notes Mehdi's book: <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250853479/wineveryargument">https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250853479/wineveryargument</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 34 min

Jennifer Senior: How Old Are You in Your Head?

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People over 40 tend to see themselves as about 20% younger than their actual age. Is it because aging is seen as bad — or because they're optimistic that they have many years ahead? Plus, living with long Covid, and John Fetterman's depression. Jennifer Senior joins Charlie Sykes today. Show notes Jennifer's recent Atlantic articles: <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/04/subjective-age-how-old-you-feel-difference/673086/">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/04/subjective-age-how-old-you-feel-difference/673086/</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/john-fetterman-checks-into-hospital-clinical-depression-stroke/673112/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/john-fetterman-checks-into-hospital-clinical-depression-stroke/673112/</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/long-covid-symptoms-chronic-illness-disability/673057/">https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/long-covid-symptoms-chronic-illness-disability/673057/</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

My Conversation With Paul Ryan

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The former Speaker of the House tells Charlie Sykes a Reagan 2.0 candidate would have a shot in '24. He also discusses his relationship with McCarthy, how the base has evolved, and how he thinks Fox has "proper" conservative voices despite Tucker Carlson. Ryan and Sykes spoke at the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 66 min

Will Saletan: Dilbert, Free Speech, and Racism

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Scott Adams has the right to carry on about white victimhood, and newspapers have the free speech right to drop him. Plus, after the Ohio train wreck, is Biden — with his global leadership — showing shades of Bush 41? Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 54 min

Tim Miller: Here's Why You Need to Shut Up

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The Georgia jury forewoman needs to stop talking, Norma Desmond took a break from Mar-a-Lago, Charlie and Tim disagree on Roald Dahl, and DeSantis lectures New Yorkers on law & order while the big cities in Florida have a higher crime rate. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Brian Rosenwald: Fox Is Afraid of Its Audience

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Fox isn't news, and it isn't propaganda. It's about getting the biggest audience it can, to make the most money it possibly can. And Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are more powerful than elected GOP leaders — even if they're afraid of their own audience. Brian Rosenwald joins Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 51 min

Bill Lueders: Wisconsin's High Stakes Supreme Court Race

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With abortion and election integrity on the line, Democrats got the opponent they wanted for the most consequential election of 2023. Plus, Joe Biden at 80 is coming into his own presidency. The view from Wisconsin: Bill Lueders joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Will Sommer: The Power of QAnon

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Conspiracy theories had been gaining ground in the GOP before Trump, but after he became conspiracy-theorist-in chief, many of his fans dove into conspiracies too. QAnon now has 10 million followers, and Trump is the messiah figure at its center. Will Sommer joins Charlie Sykes today. Will Sommer's "Trust the Plan": <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/trust-the-plan-will-sommer?variant=40493482541090">https://www.harpercollins.com/products/trust-the-plan-will-sommer?variant=40493482541090</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Biden’s Kyiv Moment

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Biden went to an active war zone, Lindsey Graham shows his old McCain-sidekick self, DeSantis weighs in on Ukraine, the Michigan GOP disconnects from reality, and MTG takes the leap from sedition to secession. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 53 min

David Frum: The GOP’s Obnoxiousness Problem

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The text messages in the Dominion case show that Fox was intentionally pushing lies about 2020 — lies that led to violence. And Trump is one step away from wearing a T-shirt that says "Yes, I COUP'D!" David Frum joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 50 min

Ben Wittes: Jack Smith at Ramming Speed

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Mike Pence is erasing his own profile in courage by trying to resist special counsel Jack Smith's subpoena, a Mar-a-Lago document prosecution is still viable, and Ben Wittes — who once challenged Putin to a fistfight — is still irritating the Russians. Wittes joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 48 min

Michael Kranish: The Trump/Kushner/Saudi Vortex

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In early 2021, both Kushner and Trump needed a game plan for making money. MBS — who both men had helped to consolidate power and literally get away with murder — came to the rescue with billions of dollars. Michael Kranish joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 35 min

Damon Linker: How Not to Fight Wokeness

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Even people who aren't racist and aren't anti-trans can get rubbed the wrong way by the heavy-handed puritanical approach of the woke movement. Plus, Nikki Haley's bromides from the Republican Party of 10 years ago. Damon Linker joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Will Saletan: The Weekend of the UFOs

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What is flying above us? Is it more than sky garbage? Meanwhile, the House GOP radar is against whatever Joe Biden does. Plus, Trump's opinions about women's clothing, and the former first family feeding at the teat of MBS. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 49 min

Tim Miller: It Was Dumber than You Might Have Imagined

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The weaponization committee hearing was an embarrassing bust. Plus, James O'Keefe's love of musicals, the karma of calling DeSantis a groomer — and Charlie has Covid and he still showed up for your Super Bowl weekend pod with Tim. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 52 min

Tom Nichols: The Kook Bench

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The drunken heckling caucus around Marjorie Taylor Greene is not out of control — it did exactly what its voters sent them to do. And Tucker Carlson is playing to that base, which has contempt for people with an education. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 44 min

A.B. Stoddard: Dark Brandon Rising

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Biden's shrewd State of the Union address played rope-a-dope with Republicans, and he relished the scrum. Plus, Trump goes classic and pulls the groomer card on DeSantis. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Mark Hertling: What My Oath Means

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The balloon set off a performance theater among members of Congress that was unbecoming of their rank and office, Lt. Gen Mark Hertling tells Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. Plus, how Jan 6 has impacted education at military colleges, and an update on the war in Ukraine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 38 min

Will Saletan: Popping the Red Balloon

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It wouldn't have mattered how Biden had handled the balloon — Republicans would have said he was weak. Plus, the art of donning an AR-15 pin to trigger the libs, and Elon Musk is amplifying Russian propaganda. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 51 min

Tim Miller: Never Should Mean Never

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Too many normies STILL won't say "Never Trump," but Paul Ryan may be coming around. Plus, Kari keeps pretending to be governor, Hugh Hewitt is leg-humpy, and Charlie wants Dark Brandon to go out in a flak jacket and pop the balloon. Your weekend pod with Charlie Sykes and Tim Miller. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 53 min

Elie Honig: Is Trump Untouchable?

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Dauer: 51 min

Charlie Savage: The Real Witch Hunt?

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Trump has longed complained about a deep state plot to smear him with the Russia investigation, but the Durham probe of that investigation comes off as highly partisan, unethical, and loony. Charlie Savage joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 42 min

Julian Zelizer and Kevin Kruse: History Is Under Assault

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History became more politicized in the Trump era and the conservative media ecosystem has helped amplify untruths. Princeton's Kevin Kruse and Julian Zelizer join Charlie Sykes to explain the value of learning both our good and bad history. We can handle the truth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Will Saletan: Policing the Police

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Training and diversity are not enough — cops who break the law must be prosecuted. Plus, the normalization of political violence around Jan 6 and the attack on Paul Pelosi, and Steve Bannon goes deeper on election denialism. Will Saletan joins Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 47 min

Tim Miller: Deep Inside Tucker Carlson's Navel

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Republicans are so out of touch, their public brand is in trouble. Plus, MTG is Queen of the GOP, Schlapp is too sleazy for Gaetz, and party types are praying for a Trump heart attack. Oh, and Tim Miller tells Charlie Sykes he wants to hang with Kari Lake. Your weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 51 min

Michael Weiss: A Watershed Moment for Ukraine

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It took a lot of arm-twisting, but the West has finally committed to arming Ukraine with battle tanks — not only to boost its defenses, but also to take the fight to the Russians. And Crimea is now in play. Michael Weiss joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Jonathan Alter: How the Documents Hurt Biden

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Biden has been seen as scandal-free, but his classified docs case may cost him a big political asset: the benefit of the doubt. Plus, Trump's map in the '24 primaries looks smaller. And the fallout from the arrest of a former FBI agent with ties to Russia. Jonathan Alter joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 48 min

David Weigel: MAGA v MAGA

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Republicans may have underperformed in the midterms, but the RNC chair fight is not about changing the party's direction. For the base, it's about out-suing the "cheating" Democrats. Plus, the free-for-all in Chicago's mayoral race, and the Oscar noms. Dave Weigel joins Charlie Sykes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 40 min

Will Saletan: It's In Your Nature to Destroy Yourselves

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The pro-life movement, undaunted by the midterms, is pushing for more restrictions— and the political backlash will be severe. Plus, give Ukraine the tanks, and don't invite Donald Trump to your funeral. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 51 min

Catherine Rampell: Psychotic Feral Cats with Machetes

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Republicans are back to extortion and holding the debt ceiling hostage after adding $4.7 trillion to the deficit during the Trump years — and that was before the pandemic. Why risk financial market chaos? Catherine Rampell joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 41 min

Michael Schmidt: "I Didn't Know They Made People Like That"

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Before John Kelly became chief of staff, he thought the chaos at the White House was due to the people around Trump. Instead, each day was about getting through the day without Trump doing something illegal, immoral, or damaging to himself or the country. Mike Schmidt joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 45 min

Bill Kristol: Glimmers of Hope

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The shift in attitudes about defense and foreign policy in Germany has been dramatic since the war in Ukraine began. Plus, will ripping off a dying dog be the tipping point for George Santos? Bill Kristol — fresh off a series of meetings in Berlin — joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 35 min

David French: Our Religious Freedoms Are Not Hanging by a Thread

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New York Times-bound David French tells Charlie Sykes how he re-thought same-sex marriage, how he felt he was living in a bubble, and how religious liberty is more strongly protected than it's ever been. Plus, the inevitability of George Santos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 46 min

Will Saletan: Performative Garbage

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RonAnon Johnson wanted to get beat up on "Meet the Press" — so he could weaponize it. Plus, the active moving backward from MLK's dream, Trump gets the ultimate whataboutism, debt ceiling dangers, and a football confession. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 43 min

Michael Steele: Slapping Matt Schlapp

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Former RNC Chair Michael Steele had a front-row seat for the start of the ugly transformation at CPAC. Racist rhetoric has now been normalized, and they're not even pretending anymore. Steele joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 33 min

Adam Kinzinger: Detoxing from Congress

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Watching from a distance, former Rep. Kinzinger tells Charlie Sykes that House moderates have a lot of power they're not willing to use, while the Freedom Caucus —AKA "The Terror Club" — is willing to shoot hostages. Plus, McCarthy will say whatever he needs to say to stay in power. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 38 min

Aaron Blake: Kevin McCarthy Is Keeping a Secret

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Without his secret pact, Kevin McCarthy likely would not be Speaker. Now, the American public — and members of Congress — are in the dark about the terms of McCarthy's agreement. Plus, will Joe Biden's classified documents sink a prosecution of Trump? Aaron Blake joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 39 min

Olivia Nuzzi: Has Trump Become Norma Desmond?

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Trump rarely leaves his 'weird' smelling, moldy mansion, he seems bored and tired, and D-List MAGA are his main loyalists now. Plus, Olivia and Charlie go all in on the parallels to the film, Sunset Boulevard. Olivia Nuzzi joins Charlie Sykes today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 38 min

Will Saletan: Expect More Hostage-Taking in the House

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McCarthy paid the ransom, Bannon is openly supporting violence in Brazil, and even normie Republicans are prepared to put the US economy at risk. Plus, Charlie and Will disagree on Hakeem Jeffries' speech. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Dauer: 49 min

A.B. Stoddard: A Desperate Man

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Dauer: 49 min

Nick Confessore: The Theater of Elise Stefanik

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Dauer: 42 min

John Avlon: The Bomb Throwers Just Don't Care

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Dauer: 37 min

Tom Nichols: Of Course They All Hate Each Other

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Dauer: 48 min

Andrew Weissmann: The DOJ and Trump's Attempted Coup

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Dauer: 30 min

Susan Glasser and Peter Baker: Trump's Hostile Takeover of the Government

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Dauer: 33 min

Maggie Haberman: Trump Is Damaged and He Causes Damage to Others

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Jennifer Senior: Steve Bannon Is an Asymmetric Threat

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Dauer: 48 min

Nick Confessore: Tucker and the Most Racist Show in the History of Cable News

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Dauer: 48 min

Michael Fanone: We Were Literally Fighting for Our Lives

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Dauer: 44 min

Tim Alberta: The Political Poisoning of the Evangelical Church

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Dauer: 40 min

BONUS EPISODE: The Bulwark Goes Across the Movie Aisle

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Eric Edelman: A Struggle Between Democracy and Tyranny

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BONUS EPISODE: The Symmetry Between Zelensky's Visit and the Jan 6 Report

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Gen. Mick Ryan: The War in Ukraine, 10 months In

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Dauer: 39 min

Will Saletan: He Wanted the Violence

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Dauer: 34 min

The Next Level Takes Over The Bulwark

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Symone Sanders-Townsend: Let Joe Run

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Derek Thompson: An Abundance Agenda for the Future

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Dan Vallone: The History Wars Are Not What They Seem

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Dauer: 26 min

Elaina Plott Calabro: MTG Is More Cunning than You Think

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Adam Kinzinger: The Torch Is Now with the DOJ (Encore Episode)

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Tim Miller: Nazis Bad, Constitution Good

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Dauer: 54 min

A.B. Stoddard: A Most Delicious Circular Firing Squad

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Mark Leibovich: DeSantis Is Not the Savior

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Kori Schake: Rejecting Authoritarianism

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Will Saletan: Saying the Quiet Part Blaringly Out Loud

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Tim Miller: A Week Full of Nazis

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Dana Milbank: Even Kevin McCarthy Doesn't Trust Kevin McCarthy

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Ben Wittes: The Worst Story We Told Ourselves Was True

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Peter Wehner: Turning on Trump for the Wrong Reason

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Will Saletan: Dining with a Nazi

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A Thanksgiving Message from Team Bulwark

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David Priess: Trump's Very Bad Day at Court

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David Frum: House Republicans Aim for a Rerun

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Tom Nichols: A 2016 Flashback?

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Tim Miller: Sometimes Reality Sets In

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Mark McKinnon: The Message Still Matters

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Dauer: 42 min

David Corn: Trump Is Still a Threat

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Adam Kinzinger: Knives Out in the Nutcase Caucus

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Will Saletan: Gelded by the Nutcase Caucus

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Dauer: 48 min

Michigan Magic with Mallory McMorrow

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Dauer: 51 min

Tim O'Brien: He Will Burn It All Down

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A.B. Stoddard: We Could've Been the United States of QAnon

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Barbara Slavin: Fire Under the Ashes

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Will Saletan: Only One God-King at a Time

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Dauer: 49 min

Bill Kristol: Be Alarmed

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Dauer: 41 min

Bart Gellman: The Impeachment of Joe Biden

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Dauer: 35 min

Elizabeth Williamson: It Started with Sandy Hook

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Dauer: 37 min

Charlie Warzel: Elon's Disastrous Weekend

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Dauer: 40 min

Will Saletan: Elon Musk’s Hellscape

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Dauer: 49 min

Maggie Haberman: A Character Study of Trump — and America

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Dauer: 33 min

Karen Tumulty: Are the Pundits Getting It Wrong?

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Dauer: 47 min

Robert Draper: Weapons of Mass Delusion

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Dauer: 43 min

Franklin Foer: Donald Trump Will Be Indicted

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Dauer: 48 min

Will Saletan: Liars and Fraudsters Can Still Win

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Dauer: 38 min

The Bulwark Live, with Michael Fanone

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Dauer: 49 min

Adam Hochschild: American Midnight

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Dauer: 40 min

Jake Sherman: What McCarthy Told Me

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Dauer: 39 min

Will Saletan: Why Aren't People Voting on Democracy?

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Dauer: 55 min

Adam Kinzinger: Unplugged

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Dauer: 40 min

Denver Riggleman: Why I Wrote It

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Dauer: 51 min

Dana Milbank: The Alien Lizard Party

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Dauer: 36 min

Lucy Caldwell: Fetterman Should Have Dropped Out

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Dauer: 44 min

David Frum: Biden's Blurt Problem

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Julian Zelizer: Living with Fear of Nuclear Weapons, Again

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Dauer: 39 min

Bill Kristol: Degeneracy Is the Norm

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Dauer: 45 min

Major Garrett & David Becker: How a Second Civil War Could Start

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Dauer: 43 min

Ruy Teixeira: Some Tough Love for the Democrats

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Dauer: 50 min

Kara Swisher: Our Careless Oligarchs

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Dauer: 46 min

BONUS EPISODE: The Focus Group with Sarah Longwell (and Charlie Sykes in Wisconsin)

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Dauer: 43 min

Will Saletan: Shrugging in the Face of Threats of Violence

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Dauer: 46 min

Tim Miller: Why Lizzo Triggers Ben

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Dauer: 62 min

Susan Glasser & Peter Baker: A History and a Warning

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Tom Nichols: Clowns with Flame Throwers

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Dauer: 47 min

A.B. Stoddard: The Super Kooks

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Dauer: 54 min

Tim O'Brien: For Trump, It's Always about the $$$

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Dauer: 39 min

Tim Miller: Can We Indict Him Just by Thinking about It?

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Dauer: 49 min

Jonathan Lemire: How Do You Cover an Insurrectionist?

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Dauer: 43 min

Stephanie Slade: The NatCons’ Will to Power

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Dauer: 48 min

Dylan Byers: What's Going On at CNN?

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Dauer: 43 min

Will Saletan: Nice Little Democracy You Got There

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Dauer: 48 min

Tim Miller: LOLs in DeSantis-Stan

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Dauer: 50 min

Catherine Rampell: The Economy Is Weird Right Now

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Dauer: 38 min

General Mark Hertling: Russia’s Awful Army

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