#148 - Kevin Pereira

[0] What are you doing?

[1] Brian, what have you done?

[2] Yeah, ear shattering motherfucker.

[3] Is there a volume flight around the bad voice?

[4] Yes.

[5] When I'm an old man on a mountain somewhere, my ears are ringing, I'm gonna be like, fucking Brian.

[6] Got in there.

[7] He got me, the fuck.

[8] He wore it all out, beat my ear drums in.

[9] There's a few guys that come over the house, and we have to just keep saying, don't talk, don't talk, okay, nobody talk, nobody talk.

[10] Because, you know, once Kevin gets over here, the moment he arrived, I met him, in my driveway and immediately we start talking about how Siri is fucking Skynet and I mean it's like right out of the gate I'm like shit man we haven't even got into it yet we haven't even started talking well I offered you I gave you the opportunity to wipe your workout stink all over myself and Joe actually went for it it was pretty fucking gross he put me in a scissor lock in his driveway and was like dude absorb my essence I'm used to jujitsu man I'm used to dude sweating on me but I came out all sweaty because I was hitting the bag and And I was like, I'll give you a hug, but he goes, ah, come on, man. I go, all right.

[11] And then he panicked.

[12] Oh, I ran.

[13] I ran for the hills.

[14] No one of this.

[15] Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. First, the first time I moved out here, the first time I went over to Joe's house, he was working out with his friend Eddie, and he answered the door.

[16] And this is when he was, like, insane.

[17] Well, you still, you're probably more now, but you were insanely ripped.

[18] And Eddie and you both came to door sweaty as hell and did the same thing, gave the man hug.

[19] That was a totally different weightlifting days.

[20] I had more bodybuilding muscle back then, but I wasn't as strong.

[21] That's weird.

[22] Your description sounded like a little bit of slash fiction there for a second.

[23] Slash fiction?

[24] Like, you know, he writes the story.

[25] Oh, yeah, Joe came out of the garage.

[26] His sun was glistening off his hips.

[27] His nipples were protruding out of his ass.

[28] It made no sense.

[29] You've dipped into slash.

[30] That's called slash fiction?

[31] Yeah, it's a whole, like, subset of fiction.

[32] People who write, like, sexual fiction about, like, celebrities, Star Trek really kicked it off.

[33] Really?

[34] What?

[35] What do I not know about this?

[36] So what you're saying is that there's a whole genre of, like, fiction, pornography about famous.

[37] famous people.

[38] Yeah, or like it's fantasy porn.

[39] There's probably Care Bears slash fiction out there.

[40] Oh, I'm sure there is.

[41] I probably wrote some of it.

[42] How fucking weird are people, man?

[43] That they have like sexuality intertwined into their hobbies and their, you know, their fetishes and their weird TV shows that they're into.

[44] This podcast brought to you by Fleshlight.

[45] How is it to have sexuality intertwined into everything?

[46] Yeah, but that's just something to jerk off into.

[47] I mean, everybody jerks off and all.

[48] all the fleshlight is, is a technological improvement on jerking off.

[49] So what if I need slash fiction about, like, what if I needed a good story about the brawny towel guy, fucking the jolly green giant?

[50] What if I need that to get off?

[51] But there's people that are into that kind of shit, right?

[52] That's like, I, now that you brought this up, I could be pretty hot.

[53] I remember somebody else having a conversation with me about this, and they were talking about how, there's a website where people are into different cartoon characters.

[54] First porn I ever bought was Playboy Jessica Rabbit issue.

[55] Wait a minute, now that I'm realizing, now I'm thinking back again, now it was like, there was like all this porn that used to be online where it was like the Flintstones fucking.

[56] Yeah, that still exists.

[57] It was like really hardcore.

[58] Hardcore, and it was weird because it was kind of like hot.

[59] You know, like, you know, Fred was fucking banging Barney Rolls' wife, what was her name?

[60] Was it Betty?

[61] Betty Rubble.

[62] Fred was banging Betty Rubble.

[63] Fred was banging Betty Rubble.

[64] You see Max and Ruby, Joe.

[65] It's awesome on there.

[66] Max and Ruby?

[67] They have sexual.

[68] They have everything.

[69] They have Darry or whatever like Dora the Explorer?

[70] Do they really?

[71] I saw a Simpsons takeover ad once that popped up and it was like Maggie had a penis, the baby had a penis, the female baby and was like fucking Marge's mouth with it.

[72] And I was like, hold on.

[73] There are hot singles in my area that want to chat with me. I got to attend to them first.

[74] There's anything ever shock you anymore?

[75] Like anything at all?

[76] No. Like any videos or nothing?

[77] I'm pretty desensitized, man. Didn't you just say before we started though, there was one?

[78] There is one.

[79] There is one.

[80] Like, you got to understand.

[81] I've seen like soldiers get heads cut off.

[82] and I'd see some six shit at like eight or nine years old when I was on water boards.

[83] You were on style project back in the day as I was.

[84] This is before style.

[85] I used to know that.

[86] Style was like the first.

[87] Style is how I know you.

[88] Yeah, I talked to that guy online still.

[89] He sent me a Facebook message.

[90] He's still alive?

[91] Yeah, supposedly.

[92] It might not read the real style.

[93] Who knows?

[94] I talked to him on the phone once.

[95] He's not a person.

[96] Yeah, he's like anonymous now, I thought.

[97] I talked to him on the phone once.

[98] We were on a radio show.

[99] So it was like on the phone and he was on the radio show at the same thing.

[100] What was he like?

[101] It was like an internet radio show.

[102] he's a good guy yeah he's just a kid you know i don't know him well i don't know his thing but boy did he have a crazy fucked up sight you should get him on on a show or you should get him on a show that's something that's never been done on like no one's never really seen style yeah i would have to know if there was the real style though how the hell would you know by his kiss the guy who has a blog like that you probably know pretty quick yeah i don't think so there's a lot of guys that would be fake styles that i think would look just as good just have them log in the style so chat with a chat with a chat with a guy who's trolling as style why not he's It's one of the guys that really, the first guy to promote my website, though, on the internet.

[103] He made a blog post about my comedy being really funny and my website being really cool.

[104] And then also these people started coming over to my message board, then it started taking off.

[105] That's one of the reasons why, at the beginning, my website was so sick, too, of sure.

[106] My message board has always been so twisted.

[107] It was styling.

[108] The style infection from the beginning.

[109] Have you been to rotten .com recently?

[110] Yeah.

[111] They need to hire a web designer.

[112] It's the exact same website as it was since the beginning of the...

[113] internet.

[114] I don't think they need to.

[115] You want the web 2 .0 version of dudes shitting in people's mouths?

[116] Like that's what you want?

[117] That car accident.

[118] Does Rotten really need its own app?

[119] What exactly is Web 2 .0?

[120] It's got to have rounded corners and glossy buttons and reflections.

[121] Shadows.

[122] What is it?

[123] It's like it's, it was a concept for a set of standards for how the web should work at the time.

[124] So it was like, you know, web 2 .0, you know, things should be, you know, cloud -based stored in the server.

[125] There should be endless scrolls on pages.

[126] There's all these things that happen with iterations of the web, you know.

[127] saw it on the first time I saw it was years ago on some guy's website who makes websites his websites were kind of whack and you know I had this thing about web 2 .0 like he was like using all the right terms and everything but his work was whack right and I was like synergize the web yeah it was like content management system from the future yeah it's a weird thing right when anything ever anything becomes popular you know there's there's people who are like real for real geeks and then there's people who see geekdom as an opportunity to sort of make some funny and they pretend to be geeks you know what I've never experienced that in my life you've never experienced fake geeks not once really what do you smile like that for I'm just I'm just saying it's a pleasure it had not experienced I see it every day oh of course you do every fucking day yeah you're kidding right every day you're annoying to you being a real geek you know someone out there thinks I'm as fake as like as they come as well so by the way it's all relative I'm a geek as well and when I say this I'm not saying like you know I'm a mean person calls on a geek you know I'm I'm an undereducated geek.

[128] I wouldn't say I'm a fake geek.

[129] I just don't know how anything works.

[130] I'm into it all, but I don't know how it works.

[131] You put dot net instead of dot TV, by the way, on your link, so everyone's freaking out on Twitter.

[132] Did I really?

[133] Oh, yeah, sorry, folks.

[134] Here, I'll retweet that shit.

[135] Are we live?

[136] Is this?

[137] Yeah.

[138] This is a super live.

[139] Is there, what was the video?

[140] Did you ever say what the video was that you?

[141] Do we want to get into that?

[142] It's just too gross?

[143] I mean, it's dark.

[144] It was fucking dark.

[145] I mean, I don't know.

[146] For whatever reason it rocked me. It was, there was a Reddit post.

[147] on people that are making knockoff ugg boots in China and they said that there's these entire factories where they're just cutting up dogs while they're alive just skinning dogs alive and taking that fur and processing it up and serving it out there as an ugg boot and I'm like dude I you know what I don't I used to click on this stuff and I used to I can't do that I used to pride myself on separating these are just pixels on a screen these are ones and zeros this isn't real there's no emotion here there's not I was so desensitized from those those early days and I was like oh fuck it Let's see this video.

[148] Let's see what this world really is.

[149] And it just shattered me. It ruined my whole fucking day.

[150] It's ruined my week.

[151] It's still like in my head, which, you know what?

[152] Like, good, because at least now I'm talking about it.

[153] It was a graphic, terrible thing.

[154] But I didn't know they do that.

[155] I didn't know they skin fucking dogs alive to make knock off ugg boots.

[156] I've seen that video.

[157] It's very hard to watch.

[158] It's hard, right?

[159] It's very hard to watch any of those skinning videos.

[160] Those are horrific because, you know, they show the bodies and they're still alive.

[161] They don't bother killing them.

[162] No. They just, you know, they don't kill them first.

[163] They skin them.

[164] while they're still breathing and they feel everything.

[165] And they're so insensitive.

[166] It doesn't bother them even the slightest.

[167] There's like levels of humanity and people dip down to that's very disturbing.

[168] Like I'm sure you've seen the dolphin decks in Japan where they have dolphins laid on a deck, 50, 60 dolphins, and they just slites their throats.

[169] They pull them out of the water and they slice their throats.

[170] And it is horrific.

[171] How else?

[172] I'm sorry, I have to play devil's advocate.

[173] How else are they supposed to do their scientific research?

[174] Oh, I get it.

[175] It's fucking terrible.

[176] It's disgusting.

[177] How much is a bullet, man?

[178] You can't shoot him in the head.

[179] If you're going to kill him, you can't shoot him in the head, you've got to do it that one.

[180] I'm not saying you should kill them.

[181] I'm not for killing them.

[182] But how horrific is it that they do?

[183] The way they choose to do it is to bleed them out.

[184] But you're asking for like an ounce of humanity and some of the most inhumane acts of life.

[185] And that's like, that's okay to ask for.

[186] It's okay to ask for.

[187] It's really disturbing, right?

[188] But what is it that allows some folks to go to a place?

[189] Is it necessity?

[190] I mean, what the fuck is it that allows?

[191] tells people to not give even one shit about a dolphin or a dog that they make boots out of or anybody.

[192] Because they don't see the dolphin or the dog.

[193] They see their survival and their family survival.

[194] That's all they see.

[195] It's a necessity thing.

[196] It's a got to be a necessity thing.

[197] It must be, right?

[198] Like, I mean, if you had a choice of doing a podcast every day or slitting dolphins' throats, you would do a podcast every day.

[199] This person doesn't have that choice.

[200] Or at least they don't feel like they have that choice.

[201] I would imagine.

[202] If they had that, if some dudes out there was like, oh, dude, sweet, I get to skin a fucking greyhound today.

[203] Can't wait, and I'm going to punch some rabbits in the face before I get home.

[204] If someone's really thinking that, I don't, I can't, I don't want to wrap my head around that.

[205] Of course they are.

[206] There's people, there's dark people, no doubt about it.

[207] I know that there are people that do that, but I mean, systematically for hundreds of thousands of workers to do that.

[208] I don't want to believe that that that's their attitude.

[209] I'd watch videos of people beating cows when they work with in the slaughterhouse and they're hitting cows with hammers and shit.

[210] Well, that just makes them tastier.

[211] That's pure, that's pre -tenderization, Joe.

[212] I went to the city pound today, and have you ever been to a, city pound like a kill pound I've had taken dogs from pounds yeah my dog squeaky remember squeaky yeah from pound I don't understand how any of these dogs ever get taken though like all the dogs there day all look fucking dirty beat up just nasty every all them were barking it was like the most saddest depressing and thing ever and then I watched somebody give up their dog this this girl about 24 came in with a pit and she goes I need to surrender this dog and they're like it's $25 and she goes all right and she gives them a $25 and then she gives them the the leash to the woman and the dog didn't want to leave the girl's side and so the woman had to pull and like drag the dog through and the woman just seemed unfazed by it though and I'm just like which woman the woman that was giving up the dog and I'm just like how do you like if I have a dog that need to get rid of even for no whatever reason it's never going to be that I don't think it's going to be find a friend first find something first and but she probably the dog was probably nuts yeah you know or it was a hopefully it's that issue and it's not that she didn't have the space for it or the time for it right because when people do that and they bring a dog to a pound i mean you're just asking someone else to kill the thing you're just asking you're just like take it out of take it out of my hand take it out of my head i don't want it in my head anymore right you put it in your head now now you deal with it well some people are like that and i think some people are just really irresponsible and inconsiderate and they don't you know it's like well i'll get this thing for two minutes and then okay i'm done with this play thing i was really i was really surprised though that they didn't clean up the dogs because i my friend works at the show filter and the place they did they take dogs that are about to die like to be put to sleep and they rescued those dogs then they clean them up and repackage them you know and then like you know refurbish them or whatever and then and then these dogs amazing looking you walk in you want every single dog and these are all dogs about to die it's like you would think this like city pound yeah a little city pound would hire four kids you know in high school to clean up these dogs there's no money yeah there's no money for anything those poor people yeah anybody I mean that's a that's a dark road when when you especially today when you deal with all the fucking economic hardships that are hitting people and then you ask people to care about dogs so good luck they had roosters there though snakes they had bunnies they had tons of bunnies and chickens and like fucking like it was crazy it's like the new thing that's like the new thing to have I think is a rooster yeah no joke well also there's a lot of people yeah I mean that was like a hipster thing for a minute is serious yeah dead serious can you turn my microphone down my headset down same here please Yeah, it's really loud, man. I went to my old gardener used to fight roosters.

[213] Actually cockfight them?

[214] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[215] Yeah, yeah, the whole deal.

[216] A little louder, a little louder.

[217] That's good, good.

[218] Yeah, he used to raise him and fight him.

[219] You know, and he took me to, like, where his friend has, like, this whole setup where they have hundreds of these different roosters in these cages and shit.

[220] What's the setup?

[221] Is this like underground or is this like in an alley kind of thing?

[222] He had a lot of space.

[223] It's really weird, man, because it's not that far.

[224] Not that far from here, you know.

[225] I mean, you drive maybe 20 minutes.

[226] And you're in Mexico, bro.

[227] I mean, you're really in Mexico.

[228] Oh, I thought you like saw this here.

[229] No, no, no, I mean, it is here.

[230] Okay.

[231] It's close.

[232] I'm saying it's in Mexico because everything's in Spanish.

[233] The entire neighborhood is they've just completely turned this one neighborhood.

[234] I don't want to say where it is, into, into, to essentially like a branch of Mexico.

[235] It's nuts.

[236] Everything is in Spanish.

[237] Every sign at every store was in Spanish.

[238] Really?

[239] Yeah, it was amazing.

[240] I was like, this is kind of cool that they've been able to do that.

[241] It's kind of weird.

[242] I'm like, come on, man, you're in America.

[243] Just learn the fucking language.

[244] It's not that hard.

[245] You know, if I know it, all right?

[246] And, you know, I know a lot of idiots that know English.

[247] You could do it.

[248] Just get a goddamn rose out of stone, figure your shit out.

[249] But, you know, to them, I guess, you know, they want to be around their people and there's nothing wrong with that, man. You know, this guy was cool as fuck, this gardener.

[250] but uh did he show you did you actually go watch one no i didn't watch the actual fight itself but i went and watched them fuck around i went and watched them train with each other they train them you know they're like they have them go out each other with no spurs on and they decide when to pull them off and you know they they do a bunch of shit to them to like they feed them like certain certain food to make sure that they're strong you know high protein and yeah they have uh championship lines of roosters you want to buy roosters and breed them with like championship blood lines because you want like a really aggressive, badass rooster that really knows how to get after it.

[251] Is there a fantasy league for cockfighting?

[252] That's funny.

[253] Because that needs to be built.

[254] That needs to be put together.

[255] Gambling.

[256] A lot of gambling, that's what I mean.

[257] Farmville, too.

[258] You know, bring it in.

[259] Bring it into Vegas.

[260] You've got to be there live.

[261] Legitimize it.

[262] Well, I think it's legit in a couple of states.

[263] I think it's legal in a couple states.

[264] Isn't it?

[265] I thought that was illegal everywhere.

[266] Really?

[267] I would imagine something like that.

[268] To me, it's like dog fighting.

[269] How would that...

[270] No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, it's not dog fighting.

[271] like dog fighting dogs are awesome chickens can suck my dick all right i never care about chickens there's some dude there's some dude at home though like right in the whole of his roost that that feels the same way about his about dogs they're cold -hearted dinosaurs okay cockfighting is now illegal in all 50 states and in washington dc hey we the last state to make yeah yeah it's interesting wow i think it was uh it was legal pretty recently though it's not illegal in west hollywood shut up brian trying to be gay and funny silly goose he uh he is apparently what was the uh the gay jim kerry thing that you're watching oh that movie yeah he talked about did you ever watch that no i didn't no but he said the reason he watched it was that well it was on but the remote was so far away that i was just like ah i'm like that's that's your excuse for watching gay porn like you just wanted to watch two dudes fuck well it doesn't start off like that i'm sorry here's the information louisiana was the last date and it was 2007 so that's pretty goddamn recently Band took effect in 2008 Someone's still fighting to repeal that there You know it Yeah Yeah it's fascinating Unless like rappers Yeah Well I know that Roy Jones Jr. is a huge proponent Of the cockfighting You know he used to fly in private jets With roosters He was flying Like he was the fucking Middleweight champion of the world Yeah Flying around a goddamn private jet And he would bring like ten roosters With him in cages Wow Yeah he was nuts man And he would fight them himself Oh yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah Yeah.

[272] And there's no backlash for that for him or now?

[273] Well, it's not the same, man. You know, like the backlash from Michael Vick, look, there's a big difference.

[274] You tell someone that someone fights dogs and you go, whoa, man, that's kind of fucked up.

[275] You know, like, and then you heard the other shit that Vic did where he would electricute the dogs or drown them or shoot him in the head.

[276] He murdered him.

[277] He murdered a bunch of dogs.

[278] And that takes a certain personality that we don't like.

[279] Yeah, that's the personality we're just talking about.

[280] The one that got to McCorm.

[281] Even worse, because this is a multi -millionaire.

[282] This isn't a guy who's in any state of necessity.

[283] necessity.

[284] This isn't cruelty because he's in a bad position and he needs to do this because he's got to put food on the table.

[285] No, this is a guy who's getting off on killing animals for sure.

[286] And we just kind of accepted him back into the fold because he's really good at football.

[287] And I know people say, well, you know, he did his time.

[288] Yeah, I guess he did do his time.

[289] But there's a certain amount of what he did that's so horrific that it just makes you really hesitant to ever forgive someone for that kind of behavior.

[290] You know, I forgive someone for fucking up.

[291] I forgive someone for saying things.

[292] I forgive someone for racism.

[293] I forgive someone for poor mental choices.

[294] But when you kill 100 dogs, man, and you electrocute them and shoot them and stab them and do all that shit that he supposedly did, I don't like you.

[295] I don't think I'll ever like you.

[296] I don't think I can like you.

[297] I think you're capable of doing some shit that I would never imagine.

[298] And how far back have you bounced from that?

[299] 180 degrees?

[300] Are you a perfect person now?

[301] Are you just less creepy because you know the cameras are on you and you don't want to go back to jail for killing dogs.

[302] Fuck you, man. Do you think there's an expectation, though, that people have an expectation?

[303] Like, well, okay, he did his time, so you should forgive him.

[304] Yeah, I mean, I guess you should, yeah.

[305] Because I don't have that expectation.

[306] I would like to believe.

[307] I would like to believe that people can, you know, fully learn from, but man, I like dogs, and that drove me crazy, and I like pit bulls.

[308] And you know what?

[309] Pit bulls like to fight, man. That is a fact.

[310] They like it.

[311] I've had to break my dogs up many times when I have pit bulls.

[312] And it's scary, especially they don't want to let go in their wagon.

[313] their tails.

[314] They're both wagging their tails and they're locked on to each other's faces.

[315] You know, it's crazy.

[316] It's crazy.

[317] But that's what they do, man. It's, it's there thousands of years of genetic breeding.

[318] And you know what?

[319] It's this coming from a person who's deeply involved in human fighting.

[320] So for me, like dog fighting is, what is it, less brutal than what I fucking watch every weekend?

[321] Is it less brutal than you know, than Alster Overeem, kicking you in the fucking head with his shin?

[322] I think a dog biting you might be a little less brutal than that.

[323] You know, it might be less brutal than having Kane Velazquez punch a fucking hole through your face like he did to Brock Lesner.

[324] You know what?

[325] Those guys are in there because they want to be there.

[326] They're making the conscious decision to be there.

[327] Guess what?

[328] The dogs want to do it too.

[329] They want to bite through the fucking fence.

[330] Yeah, but they're also killing each other and there's no referee.

[331] They're really scary thing to stop it.

[332] Well, yes, they are.

[333] That's not true.

[334] No, no, no, that's not true.

[335] The dogs, they break the dogs and then they bring them back together again and if the dog shies away, they stop it.

[336] That's incorrect.

[337] But where is the electrocution and the drowning that you brought up on.

[338] That's all dogs that are not game.

[339] This is what the idea is you never breed a dog that is human aggressive.

[340] You never breed a dog that quits.

[341] You never breed a dog that is scared of another dog, a dog that backs away.

[342] The thing what they've done with pit bulls is they've taken this animal and they've engineered it into a super fighter.

[343] And there's no other dog that comes close to a pit bull when it comes to dog fighting.

[344] There's no other dog.

[345] And this isn't, you know, I'm not bragging about this.

[346] This isn't like fanboy talk.

[347] This is just what they've done.

[348] They've taken this animal.

[349] They've made it something very unusual.

[350] What they've done is they made an animal that's absolutely unafraid to die, absolutely unafraid of pain, absolutely unafraid of conflict and impact.

[351] They go right after other dogs.

[352] There's no hesitation.

[353] A lot of dogs, they growl, they try to figure out who's going to be the boss, they'll piss on the feds.

[354] It might even be able to avoid a fight altogether.

[355] There's no avoiding a fight with pit bull.

[356] None.

[357] Zero.

[358] If there's a wild, if it's a pit bull, and he's out of his cage, and he's a male, and he has his balls and there's another dog that's a male and has his balls and that dog does anything even remotely resembling something that challenges the pit bull's dominance there's a fight he's been bred for them yeah unless you're you're just a bad motherfucker seizing milan guy and you've done a really good job of breeding your dog or you've got a particular docile version of the breed where many many many generations of breeders have bred the gameness out of pits when i'm talking about game pit bulls most people what you see when you see a pit bull you see this like 90 pound muscular big headed that's not a game pit bulls about 35 pounds they're very small and they look like like like like a beagle man i mean i don't want to not really but they they don't look like the dogs that we are used to seeing they look like these these little sinewy little like springy athletic dogs right the idea was you you had to get a small dog because because you had to be able to physically separate them when they're going at it.

[359] If you've got two 90 -pound pit bulls going out, first of all, they don't last.

[360] They gas out really quick, just like heavyweight fighters.

[361] And they gas out really quick, and you can't separate them.

[362] They're too fucking strong.

[363] It's too dangerous, too.

[364] Two -35 -pounders, you just get right in there and pick them up, 25 -pounder, 28 -pounder.

[365] So, yeah, they have weight classes, and they put dogs on treadmills and shit.

[366] So I get that they treat it like a sport.

[367] I get that they treat it like, you know, like anybody else would treat something professional.

[368] but does that make it okay to be breeding the dogs for that?

[369] No, it certainly doesn't.

[370] I mean, I don't support it in any way.

[371] No, no, and I wasn't applying that you do, but I mean, like that's...

[372] See, I'm a hypocrite, though, because like I said, I support human fighting UFC.

[373] No, it's not really.

[374] I mean, the dogs get fucking bit by pit bulls.

[375] I'm kind of kidding, and I'm kind of exaggerating, but I did say it, but what I meant was, I mean, I am around voluntary human violence amongst the most intelligent species on the planet on a regular basis, and for sure.

[376] I know those guys enjoy it and I think the dogs enjoy it too I don't think they should do it I hated watching dogs fight and when I'd come home and dogs would get angry and you know sometimes it would be a fight over attention you come home and they decide like one person wants to pet you wants to get pet and then the other dog wants to get pet and they'll fucking growl at each other and it's really annoying you know and it's one of the things that happens when you have a bunch of dogs but my point about pit bulls is not that you know that there's anything good about what they do.

[377] No, you're just saying this is what they do.

[378] This is what they do.

[379] And what it creates.

[380] But I mean, I think a dog could be bred to love being pet just as much as it loves aggression, no matter how aggressive the dog is.

[381] So I mean...

[382] Of course.

[383] Over many generations, well, my dog now is what's called a Regency Mastiff.

[384] And what a Regency Mastiff is, is a Neapolitan Mastiff that's bred with a pit bull.

[385] Fucking one percenter.

[386] It's what it essentially is this big, strong, athletic pit bull mastiff combination.

[387] But there's no dog aggression at all.

[388] And no people aggression.

[389] He's like the, but it's because I know the guy who breeds it, and he breeds for the exact opposite, he breeds, if the dog show any aggression to anybody, done, no breeding.

[390] Right.

[391] He has them fixed.

[392] He has them fixed.

[393] But he doesn't kill them.

[394] He's not shooting him in the head.

[395] You know, he's a, he's a breeder who loves animals.

[396] Sure.

[397] Come over his house.

[398] I mean, his dogs are playing with his two -year -old daughter.

[399] You know what I mean?

[400] It's like, that's, you can do amazing things with animals through breeding.

[401] And what they've done with the pit bull is an amazing thing.

[402] I love the dogs.

[403] They're amazing dogs.

[404] A guy had one at the gym the other day.

[405] I couldn't stop petting it.

[406] They're fascinating animals.

[407] You brought to the gym?

[408] Yeah, yeah, guys bring it Jiu -Jitsu.

[409] Come on, my friend.

[410] I have a pish -bool.

[411] I bring the pish -boo to the gym.

[412] The thing about them is because they've been bred that way.

[413] We're only the strongest, most aggressive, the ones with the most impenetrable will.

[414] Those are the only ones that are allowed to breed in the dog -fighting community.

[415] The other ones are culled.

[416] You know, they're either killed or they're neutered, or they're given to people's pets.

[417] But when you have that, what you get is this incredibly, like, energetic, intelligent animal.

[418] You get this survivor.

[419] You get this, like, cream of the crop genetic specimen of a dog.

[420] They're just fucking amazing dogs.

[421] I feel the same way about Yorkie poos.

[422] Fucking, you get the adorableness of the Yorkshire, you get the intelligence of the poodle.

[423] I mean, who doesn't want that on a calendar or in their living room?

[424] You ever have a pit bull?

[425] Once you have a pit bull, it's very hard to take it.

[426] take other dogs seriously.

[427] Really?

[428] Yeah, German Chepherds are pretty easy to take seriously.

[429] They're pretty good.

[430] My buddy's cousin trains German Shepherds.

[431] Very smart dogs.

[432] And he taught, like, he trains them for, like, celebrities.

[433] And I guess he taught Jay -Z's dog, Diamonds.

[434] Really?

[435] Yeah, if he tells the German Shepherd diamonds.

[436] Oh, that's hilarious.

[437] I hope it's in Al J -Z, but I think that's so awesome.

[438] Oh, that's hilarious.

[439] Isn't that the coolest thing ever?

[440] Yeah, German Chepherds are super, super smart.

[441] You can't just leave a German Shepherd in the yard.

[442] They'll find a way out, man. They don't like it.

[443] They'll, you know, they'll, they'll, if they have to, they'll stay in a yard, but they get bored really quick.

[444] They're task -oriented animals.

[445] They're SWAT team members.

[446] Like, you know, they are treated like SWAT team members.

[447] Belmonts, the smaller versions.

[448] It looked just like German Shepherds, but they're smaller.

[449] Same thing.

[450] You know, those dogs are super smart.

[451] Both German Shepherds at the pound today, both just standing at attention, not barking or anything.

[452] I have accepted my fate, too.

[453] They're great dogs.

[454] German Shepherds are great dogs.

[455] I had a German Shepherd.

[456] My grandfather had one when I was growing up.

[457] What a great dog it was.

[458] It was literally a dog would like go check on things, like watch over the kids.

[459] Like kids would be playing, like my cousins would be playing.

[460] And the dog would just stand there and watch over them and make sure everybody's okay.

[461] Right.

[462] Make sure nobody came around.

[463] You guys cool?

[464] You need anything?

[465] And if people would like walk by the front, if like he was by the babies and the little kids and little kids were playing and people would walk by the front gate, the dog would take two steps towards the fence just in case you needed to go jack somebody, just take two steps and then he would look back at the little kids.

[466] Look back at the little kids.

[467] And I'm like this.

[468] I was like six.

[469] and I realized this.

[470] I'm like, this motherfucker's guarding these babies.

[471] The dog is guarding them.

[472] You don't see that from very many dogs.

[473] Most dogs can give a fuck about somebody's babies.

[474] So fuck this baby.

[475] You know, lick my balls.

[476] Let me eat some food.

[477] Bacon strip later.

[478] Yeah, yeah.

[479] This is a totally different animal.

[480] It's weird.

[481] Hey, you mentioned Michael Vic did his time, and I don't want to tangentialize too much, but I mean, I think it's crazy that this Occupy stuff's going on, and I haven't had a chance to talk to you about it.

[482] I don't know where you fall or what you've seen, but it's crazy that those guys haven't done any time.

[483] yet.

[484] Well, there's no leader.

[485] That's the thing.

[486] They're trying to find someone to put away where they can stop the movement.

[487] The scariest thing about Occupy Wall Street for them is that there's no one person with a megaphone.

[488] Right.

[489] It's the only reason they're lasting so long.

[490] I mean, it could be...

[491] It's getting bigger, too.

[492] It's bigger and bigger every day.

[493] This is the beginning of something huge.

[494] Right.

[495] This is not just what it looked like, you know, what it looked like was like one of them fucking Glenn Beck rallies that just got real long, lasted a while.

[496] Everybody's pissed.

[497] Yeah, I get it, you're pissed.

[498] I'm pissed too.

[499] But then after a couple of weeks.

[500] weeks, it's like, this is not the same.

[501] This is a different feeling.

[502] This has a, this has an overthrow the government feel to it.

[503] Yeah.

[504] I mean, I saw people out there for the first time with giant signs that said audit the Fed. I was like, I didn't see you guys out here for any other alley.

[505] And maybe that's just because my eyes weren't open enough, but I went, okay, if this is how it's going to go down, let's get it going.

[506] Well, I've had some discussions about this on my message board, and there's some real good points that a lot of these guys brought up that I agree with.

[507] One of them is that there's not a lot of cohesive message to this thing.

[508] It's like there's so many different people with so many different wants and desires.

[509] But that's going to happen with any movement.

[510] Sure, absolutely.

[511] Especially a movement with no leader.

[512] You know, that they go there and they're like, stop the drone killings, you know, and there's Pita people there, and there's fucking solar people there and there's legalized marijuana people there.

[513] And everyone's got their own signs.

[514] And it's not just Occupy Wall Street.

[515] It's everything that sucks.

[516] And I don't think...

[517] The guy had a sign that said, shit's fucked up, and it's bullshit.

[518] And I was like, ab's fucking lootly, dude.

[519] That's awesome.

[520] That's reason enough to get out there.

[521] And right now, the major concern is watching special interest groups, agent provocateurs, watch them try to roll into the fray and do their YouTube videos to fight back and their CNN coverage to picture the protest and in a certain direction.

[522] It's so fascinating to watch the way the steps were outlined for.

[523] Here's what happened to the Tea Party.

[524] Here's how every other movement has been marginalized.

[525] Excuse me, coffee bad.

[526] Marginalized every other movement for years.

[527] And to watch those steps playing out right now with Occupy Wall Street.

[528] and seeing if it's going to thrive or if it's going to crumble in on itself.

[529] Do you think that someone really marginalized the Tea Party, or do you think they just did it to themselves?

[530] The people who truly, and this is from Reddit articles and from what I can cobble together on Wikipedia, but the people who were at the true heart of the original Tea Party were anti -Federal Reserve.

[531] They were anti -Bankes.

[532] They were anti -Barreations.

[533] And a lot of people said, well, they're Ron Paul supporters, so they got lumped in as, hey, you're Ron Paul, so you're Republican.

[534] And they're like, wait, but we're not necessarily Republican.

[535] I mean, we do believe in some of Ron Paul's ideas.

[536] Nope, you're Republican.

[537] Now we're going to get some crazies out there with some hats that have tea bags dangling from them and send out flyers.

[538] Well, you really think that someone sent those people out there?

[539] You don't think that there was a lot of people that just joined in?

[540] No, there certainly were.

[541] So you think that it was orchestrated?

[542] I think aspects of it were orchestrated.

[543] I think there's documented proof of people doing that.

[544] I mean, they already have agent profacitors.

[545] Of course.

[546] That Citibank thing, where those guys got arrested, the 40 people that were in a city bank trying to close their bank accounts.

[547] now they were being assholes they were they were being dicks they had their cardboard signs inside a city bank they were disruptive and they're shouting they were being disruptive yeah they weren't just just canceling their bank account the guy who was the loudest there one of the guys who was the loudest from videos that I've seen was an undercover cop so he was he was right in the yeah it's out there so one of the one of the ladies who went in there she did protest she did say her speech but then she politely after they told her to quiet down and this is again I can only cobble together so many stories but this is what I've observed over a few articles she quietly calmed down she closed her bank account.

[548] She was outside.

[549] They locked everybody in because the police said, well, if they're a disrupting business, hold them there, which even for being an asshole, I don't think you can legally detain somebody like that without the cops being there.

[550] Dude came outside.

[551] She said, I'm a customer, showing him the Citibank bank receipts and stuff.

[552] She said, I'm supposed to be in there.

[553] I'm trying to cancel my account.

[554] He's like, you were one of the protesters, grabs her, barehold style, and drags her back inside the Citibank to be processed.

[555] Wow.

[556] Well, Citibank, this is hilarious.

[557] The Citibank protesters saying that the undercover cops set them up.

[558] You know?

[559] I thought it was a setup.

[560] So the one thing this movement has going for it, which has me remaining so hopeful, is that they are so fucking connected.

[561] Like, that's what makes it great because the second bullshit happens, it's like, listen, yeah, that's one story, but here's 40 other angles of that event.

[562] Start to finish.

[563] You look at what happened.

[564] You know, and they showed a commercial right now, there's an attack commercial against the movement that has some crazy guy who's known being a crazy YouTube guy spouting anti -Semitic remarks at people left and right.

[565] And there's one guy and there's another dude that has a sign that was anti -Semitic and they cut back and forth between this guy for like three minutes.

[566] You know, this guy with a sign, the guy with that and there's video of people at that protest shaming them, telling them to get the fuck out of here.

[567] This doesn't belong here.

[568] So you see one message and you go crazy anti -Semitism, there you go.

[569] I get why people believe that.

[570] That's the message they see.

[571] But this movement is so connected that there's a chance that you could see 40 other perspectives on an event and truly make it up for yourself.

[572] You can truly decide.

[573] This Citibank arrest, now that we're talking about this and now that I'm going, you told me this and I'm going online and we'll tweet this stuff too, people are getting a chance to, if you want one of those men, there's cold ones in there.

[574] Open the top.

[575] They're on the bottom there.

[576] Bottom shelf there.

[577] There you go, fella.

[578] Get one for everybody.

[579] Yeah, sure, thanks.

[580] This is why they're saying that they know that the guy was an undercover cop.

[581] It's because he fucking arrested one of them once they got outside.

[582] Oh my God.

[583] The fucking guy, he wasn't just an undercover cop.

[584] He was mocking them and laughing about it.

[585] He arrested one of the protesters outside, slammed her into a wall and pushed her back into the bank.

[586] Oh, my God.

[587] There's video of that.

[588] He was at the precinct while they were all getting arrested, and he was laughing with fellow white shirt cops telling him about what we'd been saying, basically.

[589] It was a bit startling how inside their information was, how they were being paid to go to these protests and put us in situations where we'd be arrested and not able to leave not be able to leave that's amazing it's not it's not the only incident by a long shot that's crazy but who is in charge of this if this guy's an undercover cop right and where is this city bank branch what what part of the country was this uh i don't recall oh that sucks i would like to know is it not there on the article oh new york it's new york wow there you go so you know who's boston square park police wow, they set this woman up.

[590] This is disgusting.

[591] It's not the only incident whatsoever.

[592] This is disgusting that this should be fraud.

[593] We should be able to sue them for fraud.

[594] Yeah, I hope they can.

[595] Misrepresenting our tax dollars and misrepresenting your position to protect us.

[596] You are leading someone into an illegal event and then you're the one of screaming shit out and citing them.

[597] Did you know about kettling, the procedure of kettling?

[598] What's that?

[599] It's what the cops, they have a term for it.

[600] It's for cutting off large sections of a crowd for arrest during a protest.

[601] So that Brooklyn Bridge arrest, there's a lot of views that depending upon how you want to interpret the video that you're watching, those guys were kettled.

[602] So it means like they create a pot.

[603] In this case it was the Brooklyn Bridge, right?

[604] They cut off one end of the Brooklyn Bridge.

[605] Then they told protesters, hey, you know, no foot traffic allowed on the bridge into a megaphone, which if you've ever been to a rally, the first three people can hear that megaphone.

[606] No one else fucking can.

[607] No one else can.

[608] So they have one officer in the very front, you guys can't be here, guys can't be here, guys can't be here, no foot traffic, puts it away.

[609] All right, everybody, he turns around, and many of the protesters felt that there was a line of police officers walking down the street, leading them onto the Brooklyn Bridge, like across it.

[610] The protesters thought they had a minor victory.

[611] They were like, fuck yeah, Brooklyn Bridge, we got this shit.

[612] The cops get about halfway in, they cut them off, they put the lid on the kettle, and they cut off this large group of protesters on the bridge and arrested them all.

[613] Wow.

[614] It's like leading the marching band into that.

[615] arrested like 700.

[616] Yeah, that got a lot, yeah.

[617] It's cowboys.

[618] It really is.

[619] They were just hurting protesters.

[620] Yeah, hurting protesters.

[621] Well, you know what, man. But it sucks.

[622] This movement isn't anti -cop whatsoever, and it sucks that it's unfortunately only the bad and salacious stuff gets the news coverage.

[623] Well, that's, that's important, though, because people need to know what can happen, that that can happen.

[624] We need to know about this.

[625] This Citibank thing is fucking disgusting.

[626] Right?

[627] This is really gross.

[628] And if somebody just feels like Citibank's a shit organization, they just want to go in there and cancel their thing and maybe say, city bank i disagree with everything you're doing and i want my money back good fine leave so search the one that happened today with bank of america because a woman goes into a bank of america she had a sign and there's video this whole thing again i think don't preach don't make a ruckus you don't try to be the youtube splash but then again here we are talking about it so i guess it worked is this today you're saying i think it was today there's something from october 11th where a bunch of women were arrested inside a bank of america for returning trash from foreclosed homes no no no no i think it was from today.

[629] It was two women.

[630] One has a sign.

[631] She says, I'm against you guys.

[632] I'm closing my account.

[633] She immediately goes in and, like, a branch manager comes over to her and says, you can't be here.

[634] You need to leave.

[635] She's like, what are you talking about?

[636] You need to get out here.

[637] I'm calling the cops.

[638] She's like, listen, I'm not, I'm just here to close my account.

[639] You can't.

[640] You're a protester.

[641] I'm calling the cops.

[642] Why?

[643] I haven't done anything.

[644] And she's like, I'll put the sign away.

[645] I'll put the sign away.

[646] No, calling the cops.

[647] And it gets to the point where she actually delivers a line.

[648] You cannot be a protester and a customer at the same time.

[649] Kick them out.

[650] Lock the doors.

[651] Oh, they just kicked them out.

[652] Yeah.

[653] Well, I mean, the cops wouldn't do any.

[654] I mean, come on, man. Yeah, but you can't be a protester.

[655] I know, but you didn't, they didn't arrest them.

[656] I don't know.

[657] I mean, what do you want to do?

[658] You want to be able to go to a place where you work and have a bunch of people stand around yelling the way you're doing is bad or protesting inside your job?

[659] No, but again, you have to watch the video because they, they, they, they, they doing.

[660] She sat down with her sign and was waiting to close the account.

[661] Again, I still think it's dickish to go and make noise and shout at some poor district manager that she's the 1 % because, you know, she's not.

[662] She's just doing her job, too.

[663] Well, I think banks are like airplanes, though.

[664] Like, you really have to watch what you do inside of a bank.

[665] Like, especially if you have a sign.

[666] You don't know if that person has a bomb connected underneath their coat.

[667] You know what I mean?

[668] It's a little different.

[669] Like, I feel weird wearing an open shirt in the bank.

[670] Somebody had a good point about Occupy Wall Street.

[671] And they said, all we need is one or two bounce checks in the cops are with us.

[672] and that's so true because cops are with us the cops are not fucking bankers but did you see the nice time released the idea that you can get the cops to act as protectors for these cock suckers is really dark it's really dark when you think about it that it can even be steered in that direction don't you think it's already happening though in what way I mean this one city bank thing yes I do but I mean they're like the the police actions in New York from checking IDs to make sure you're allowed to walk on certain streets you had to have a Wall Street ID and of an ID that matched one of the addresses that you work there.

[673] Well, don't you think that probably has something to do with terror attacks as well?

[674] They didn't do it before these protests.

[675] Right, but I mean, don't you think they're worried possibly that someone's going to sneak through it?

[676] I mean, if there's so much fucking, like, people and so much attention in a certain area, I don't think it's a slippery slope though, dude, because first of all, this protest hasn't been violent.

[677] Security.

[678] This protest hasn't been violent.

[679] There have been outbursts, you know, but they haven't, I mean, that's like the officer Tony Bologna that pepper sprayed those women that were in the net I don't know if he saw that video yeah I did like that guy lost 10 vacation days that's it that was his punishment really that's it yeah it happened yesterday he lost 10 vacation days for pepper spraying and he's still a cop three women oh still a cop doesn't get demoted nothing you know he had also some sort of a into some sort of situation in 2004 when he abused somebody you punch somebody I think but but real quick to finish that point though you know you got guys like that out there you want those guys checking your ID to make sure you work at a building It's like, well, you go, yeah, it's for safety, but we've given up so many freedoms in the name of safety.

[680] And this is just further erosion of that.

[681] I agree with you.

[682] But just playing devil's advocate, what if you don't work for anybody who's doing anything evil?

[683] And you work on fucking Wall Street, and you can't get anywhere near your job because there's a million hippies out there beating drums, banging for the banks to close.

[684] And you don't even support the fucking banks.

[685] Be like, I hear you, but I got to get over there because that's where it work.

[686] And they're like, you fucking one percenter, you fucking piece of shit's depressing the people.

[687] And, you know, meanwhile, it's the person who works.

[688] I don't know.

[689] I mean, are there legit businesses?

[690] I hope that's not the attitude of the protesters.

[691] I hope that they, and that's why I was troubled to see that woman called the branch manager, like, oh, you're the 1 %?

[692] I'm like, again, this is just a motherfucker trying to do their job.

[693] Yeah.

[694] I marched in the L .A. rally that they had.

[695] I was like, let's see this thing.

[696] If I'm going to put my weight behind this at all, or I try not to get too political at times.

[697] And I was like, if I'm going to be outspoken about this shit, I need to go down there.

[698] I need to see what it's like.

[699] And I'm shocked at how many people have framed complex opinions about it and yet haven't gone down to actually see one.

[700] And when I was there, the cross -section of society that I ran into, I feared, didn't exist anymore.

[701] Truly.

[702] What do you mean?

[703] Amazing people.

[704] There's incredible people.

[705] For every avatar dressed up, head -to -blue hippie that's banging a bongo drum, there were three people there of all ages, all races, that, like, understood that shit is fucked up in this country and was trying to be positive about it, you know, and trying to elicit change.

[706] And so it was really nice feeling, but I feel like there were clear demands, and there was a, you know, a good purpose to.

[707] it then.

[708] Now it's been a little co -opted.

[709] How long ago was this?

[710] That I went out there?

[711] Yeah.

[712] Probably a week or two ago.

[713] So you think it's being co -opted by nefarious forces that are working undercover to try to sabotage things?

[714] Yeah, I think so.

[715] Yeah.

[716] Really?

[717] And what are they doing?

[718] They do that to every movement.

[719] I mean, from the attack ads to marginalizing the message, to entrapment.

[720] It's costing them a lot of money.

[721] I mean, I think it was New York or said something like that.

[722] Like, they were going to go bankrupt from this, you know.

[723] And so Bloomberg, they thought it was like, they off up the cash.

[724] He's where you got billions.

[725] Right.

[726] Do you want to keep that mayor job fuck face?

[727] Well, this was going on.

[728] I believe it was J .P. Morgan Chase announced their huge grant to NYPD of like $4 .6 million or something like that.

[729] It might have been billion dollars.

[730] I'm not even joking.

[731] It's probably a million.

[732] You should Google it.

[733] But it's literally like as this is going on and the cops are there protecting Wall Street and pepper spraying civilians who are protesting it.

[734] J .P. Morgan is making multi -million dollar donations to the NYPD.

[735] Who are they going to serve and protect?

[736] man right so yeah they might be one or two pensions away but guess what they're not going to lose their pension politicians don't fuck with the cops because they know they need them there to protect them and protect the bankers that is dark that's why it was inspiring to watch that marine there was a fucking marine colonel that was on the street and you want to talk about pit bulls joe yeah i saw that guy that motherfucker was inspiring and people were like he only said three words and like it took him three words like it was like there's no honor in this which is several more words than that but it took only that from that dude wearing that uniform with that intensity to shut those cops down.

[737] Those cops couldn't say shit.

[738] They couldn't say shit.

[739] He kept pointing to his medals and shit.

[740] What are you guys doing?

[741] You're on horses, trampling fucking innocent protesters.

[742] You're supposed to protect these people.

[743] Yeah, this isn't a war zone.

[744] These people don't have guns.

[745] Yeah, why you're hurting these people?

[746] There's no honor in this.

[747] That's all it took from that fucking guy.

[748] J .P. Morgan Chase donates 4 .6 million to NYPD during the protests.

[749] During the protests.

[750] that's amazing it's amazing it's fucking transparent as sin it's gross this is something that would have happened a long time ago we would have never heard about it right but look at the site that announcement is on that's on their official website it's not like they tried to hide this it's not like somebody had to go digging up some file to find some back alley deal yeah they were like hey world we just donated 4 .6 million to the NYPD that's how good we are as people wow yeah how gross and then the cops are acting as if that 4 .6 million is worth more than whatever these fucking regular people pay out of their paychecks every goddamn week and a percentage of that for sure has to go to public service.

[751] The people that are in your community, man, the people that are fed up.

[752] And you are just going to bend over and take it up the coolie for 4 .6 from some fucking bankers.

[753] That's amazing.

[754] For an Adam Sandler movie.

[755] How much is a movie cost?

[756] Adam Sandler movies a lot more than 4 .6 million.

[757] Well, that's what they gross, but they're...

[758] Yeah, that's what I mean.

[759] Adam's...

[760] Adam's...

[761] You might not like his movies, but...

[762] No, I love Adam's...

[763] I was a total joke.

[764] I love Adamson.

[765] Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison are still four hundred years.

[766] That would be a terrible weekend.

[767] So, oh, fuck.

[768] What was...

[769] Talking about J .P. Morgan, how they announced this right in the middle of it.

[770] This is terrifying.

[771] So, yeah, so here's one thing I'm going to attempt to do.

[772] I'm going to try to raise some money to do an app to help facilitate protesters right now.

[773] Really?

[774] And how's that worth?

[775] I got a couple ideas.

[776] I mean, I think right now I'd love to see geolocation mixed media chat rooms that you can join.

[777] Password protected, anonymous, whatever, you know.

[778] You'll log into the room.

[779] Maybe I'll create Occupy LA and people go in there.

[780] Now we have a mixed media shared space with like IRC style moderation, meaning whoever creates that room can annoy, if I create a room, I can give you permission and you permission to post directly to it.

[781] Everybody else chats in a separate area of the app, but allow people to push button quick voice message chat so you can quickly communicate in a crowd.

[782] Like, hey, the cops are coming.

[783] Everybody fucking sit down.

[784] Boop.

[785] Send that off.

[786] That's good idea, man. Hey, they're, they're cettling us in.

[787] Pull up the Google Maps.

[788] Drop a pin on it and send that out to the group so they can be like, all right, here's our new rally point and get there.

[789] All in names of keeping it peaceful and organized.

[790] If anybody takes a photo or tries to live stream from within the app, it would be geotagged and hashtag automatically because you're in that group.

[791] So when it goes up to the web, now, like right now I'm trying to follow the protests and they go, cops are beating a dude in a wheelchair in Sacramento.

[792] They weren't.

[793] They were just arresting a kid in a wheelchair, so it's okay.

[794] And he was just there after curfew.

[795] I had to track down four Twitter accounts to find where that was happening, click on the protest, go to the live stream.

[796] One live stream went down.

[797] I'm like, it's inefficient.

[798] If everybody organized through one channel, all their media, you could pull up a map in real time of all the shit that's going down in the world, click on a bubble and view it back like a timeline and see when the room started, what people were saying, what keywords were popping, what media was happening, where the videos were, you could piece up angles based off timestamps.

[799] and the idea is you could really, you would have the most honest slice of an event and history that's going on.

[800] I think it would be amazing and it would help people on the ground really organize and be safe, you know, safer.

[801] That's a great idea, dude.

[802] They're there on Kickstarter, quick.

[803] So I want to do it on Kickstarter.

[804] If someone hasn't stolen the idea already, I want to do it.

[805] I've already expected it out.

[806] What are you going to call it?

[807] We gather.

[808] How about fuck the police?

[809] Yeah, no, no. From coming down from the underground.

[810] No, because it'll never get funding as, I think I had it like, I riot.

[811] Fudge the police.

[812] I riot?

[813] Ooh, I like that.

[814] I had a bunch of like angry, aggressive names but the way to really sell it is to say, well, not only can this be used to help facilitate marches, but if a group of 10 is going to Disneyland, they can all create a group amongst their friends and share their media that way.

[815] Yeah, that's how you should market it entirely.

[816] So what are you going to call?

[817] I gather.

[818] We gather.

[819] We gather.

[820] You know, like it's a social app.

[821] I like it.

[822] Someone just took the dot com and the logo and everything else.

[823] So good luck with the guys.

[824] No. How dare you?

[825] I just wanted to get, I want the idea out there.

[826] I was going to sell the app.

[827] Don't steal it.

[828] No, I mean, I hope, if someone can help me make that, please.

[829] Why don't you register it tonight?

[830] I could.

[831] Yeah, do it.

[832] I got a spec up.

[833] I know how much it's going to cost.

[834] I think I'm just going to go out there and do it.

[835] It sounds brilliant.

[836] It sounds like a brilliant idea.

[837] I agree.

[838] I think it'd be cool.

[839] And it really wouldn't be great for Disneyland too.

[840] It would.

[841] And if you're at like a fucking Coachella, let me join the Coachella room with my friends, and then we can keep our room private but promote media up so it can go to the public room.

[842] Say you go to the Kentucky Derby and you get lost.

[843] You're a group of friends.

[844] Right.

[845] Or you're just out of cockfight and you want to know where your friends are.

[846] You want to know who's roosters on top.

[847] That's it.

[848] we gather.

[849] Yeah, that's a great idea, dude.

[850] I like that a lot.

[851] You're like a revolutionary.

[852] Look at you.

[853] Well, dude, how revolutionary would that image be?

[854] Because right now the crowds, half of the violence and the confusion comes from panic.

[855] The panic is coming from a lack of communication.

[856] They've, when you see those people chanting back what people are saying in a park, people think they're crazy and it's like a cult.

[857] It's like actually no, they don't allow amplification devices.

[858] Right.

[859] So people are just like, we'll loudly repeat everything else that's happening.

[860] Right.

[861] But you get enough people running a We Gather style app.

[862] Pop in one earbud.

[863] You can still hear what's going on around you.

[864] You'll know exactly who's connected and who's in that room by the side of the earbud and by glancing down at your phone and just fucking push to talk, man. Jamie Kielstein made a tweet and this tweet will forever, in my mind, embody what is going on here.

[865] He made this tweet.

[866] He was down at Occupy Wall Street.

[867] He was talking about how fucking crazy it is.

[868] He wrote, they just arrested a guy because they thought he was the leader.

[869] Period.

[870] There are no leaders, Occupy Wall Street, you know, and he had a little hashtag, and I was like, wow, like, what a crazy movement that must be for people where there's not one guy on a podium with a microphone.

[871] It's true, truly democratic movement right now.

[872] And growing.

[873] Truly democratic movement.

[874] And how the fuck do you silence that?

[875] But then you got guys like move on, there's a petition on move on site to have them to stop supporting Occupy Wall Street.

[876] They're seen as a radical leftist group and very political, and they have their own ties to corporations, et cetera, et cetera, depending upon who you ask.

[877] So right now, you can't have anybody from a group like that.

[878] Republican, Democrat, I don't give a shit.

[879] You cannot have groups with strong political ties funding your movement and gathering interest for your movement.

[880] You can't do that because that will be used as fodder to shut it down immediately.

[881] Well, this is the beautiful thing about this all.

[882] There is no political party here.

[883] There's no political party involved in any of this.

[884] There's Republicans out there and libertarians out there.

[885] I think a lot of Republicans don't think there are Republicans out there.

[886] That's a message that I run into a lot.

[887] A lot of Republicans are so goddamn brainwashed.

[888] I don't even know what a Republican is.

[889] Some Democrats are too.

[890] I tell people that I would register to be a Republican if I really thought that Ron Paul had a chance or that Gary Johnson had a chance.

[891] What a real Republican is supposed to be about I'm supposed to be about small business and staying the fuck out of people's personal life.

[892] It's Ron Paul.

[893] Yeah.

[894] A real Republican, by the way, wouldn't give a shit if you got married if you were gay.

[895] A real Republican wouldn't give a shit about what religion you want to practice.

[896] Right.

[897] Your business, as long as the government doesn't tell me if it's okay, your business.

[898] A constitutional Republican.

[899] Polar opposite of that right now.

[900] Would never be wanting to intersect religion in with politics.

[901] What's gone on in this country is people, like always, lump themselves in a fucking teams, whether it's Windows versus Mac, or there is...

[902] Which is why they can't allow a certain group that represents a certain team or a certain color or fucking animal glom onto their message, and they're going to have to communicate better to do that.

[903] This is the big question about this Occupy Wall Street thing, is that it's already gotten way past a boiling point and it's gotten to a point where if the economy doesn't improve and these people don't have to go back to work well what the fuck is going to stop them from escalating right the fuck is going to stop this from getting bigger and bigger i love that people go give me a job get a get a job you hippie get a fucking job it's like create one for me create one for me and i'll take it that's why i'm out here asshole everybody that says get a job today is an asshole yeah what's get a job it's gonna be interesting to see what happens come winter.

[904] It's 10 % unemployment, and that's just for people who are fucking registering for unemployment.

[905] The people that aren't even know, that's why those numbers are screwy, man. When they say the country's 9 % or 10 % or what it is, that's just people that are like registering for unemployment.

[906] How many people are not eligible for unemployment and they're still unemployed?

[907] How many people have used up their unemployment and they're still unemployed?

[908] Well, it's because they're playing World of Warcraft.

[909] It's because they have no drive.

[910] It's because they're, let's paint whatever negative picture we can on the fact that some people get down on their luck sometimes.

[911] That's what Herman Kane thinks, right?

[912] Yeah, yeah.

[913] Oh, his, Herman Kane is it's your bad, you know?

[914] Is your ass bleeding?

[915] It's not because I raped you.

[916] It's because you didn't resist it.

[917] You're hard enough, you know?

[918] He's wrong, but isn't he right to?

[919] Isn't he like, he's absolutely wrong?

[920] And there's certainly people in certain situations.

[921] And there's, for sure, people get a shit roll of the dice, man. I've seen it.

[922] We've all seen it.

[923] And some people are just fucking lazy and want to suck off the teat.

[924] And a lot of individual greens.

[925] lead to the situations that we have right now it's so multifaceted he's right and he's wrong right exactly what I was going to say is that his point is it's very simple and generalized but the reality as many a person has gone from intense poverty to immense wealth and they've done it by bulldog determination but they did it when the game wasn't rigged and I don't know about that I think people are doing that right now even while the game is rigged much harder though oh it is most certainly so much harder what do you think has changed as far as the game being rigged.

[926] I mean, what is interest rates are much higher for credit cards and, you know, it's harder to get a loan for businesses or to buy a house.

[927] And the jobs that you can get?

[928] But what other, how else is it rigged?

[929] I think, like, I think the jobs that you can get right now, I mean, the dollar is being so manipulated, I think.

[930] Okay, first of all, to get something big going, you want to get Bill Gates money, you want to get that kind of money, you want to be a baller, you got to make your own shit.

[931] You got to be your own boss, for sure.

[932] You got to create your own thing, your own business, your own boss.

[933] so do whatever the fuck you've got to do but it's got to be your own thing that's the only way you make monumental kind of money and so you know what here broadband sucks in this country and cellular sucks so I'm going to start my own carrier and I'm going to make it awesome but the game is rigged against me I can't do it throughout history people have figured out a way people have figured out a way in the darkest times to make shit piles of money so he's wrong in generalizing right that but he's also right it is possible it's just most people aren't willing to do the work to create the possible you you have to become like a madman to become super -uper -success in the middle of a fucking down economy but you can do it.

[934] But there is no middle class anymore.

[935] That's, yes, I think you, it does take that drive.

[936] It does take, I think you said like Steve Jobs ran himself at 11 ,000 RPM every day and just burnt himself out.

[937] It does take that to be at his level.

[938] But these aren't people in Times Square.

[939] I'm getting back to the movement.

[940] I don't think these are people that want to be Steve Jobs necessarily, you know?

[941] They just want jobs.

[942] They'll take a job.

[943] They just want a modest house in a modest neighborhood.

[944] You used to be able to get that for working for.

[945] You don't think that's possible anymore.

[946] I mean, I don't think.

[947] I don't think it is.

[948] Like, if you're born...

[949] Impossible.

[950] Is that a real...

[951] Is that possible that something could be impossible?

[952] I don't think anything's impossible.

[953] Absolutely not, but should we hang our hats on the one person?

[954] Let's say the unemployment, the legit unemployment numbers, 15%.

[955] It's probably worse than that.

[956] But let's say it's 15 % nationwide.

[957] That still means 85 % of the people are working.

[958] And if 85 % of the people are working, why can't you work?

[959] Is there a way to get through?

[960] You know what I'm saying?

[961] You know, I mean, I'm not saying...

[962] You can't really say there is no middle class.

[963] For sure, the situation is fucked up.

[964] For sure, we're in a terrible financial situation where we've realized that we've been scammed all these years and essentially defrauded and lied to.

[965] And we have a Congress that's bought and paid for.

[966] It's pretty obvious.

[967] Absolutely.

[968] No one's prosecuting any of these fucks, yet they're going after pot dispensaries.

[969] I mean, you know, what's going on is shameful.

[970] In 2011, with the internet, with the access to information that we have, that the government conducts its business this way, is absolutely completely shameful.

[971] Right.

[972] But people, some people are still doing okay.

[973] Some people are still getting through.

[974] I'm one of those people.

[975] I'm doing, I'm doing all right.

[976] I made some opportunities myself.

[977] I've been working my ass off since I was 12 years old.

[978] I mean, I think it's possible.

[979] But I, again, I don't, I'm not saying there isn't a middle class.

[980] There clearly still is, but it is shrinking.

[981] Exponentially.

[982] Yeah.

[983] B of A just offloaded a bunch of fucking bad assets to, to, to a branch of their arm that's FDIC insured here in the States that were European assets.

[984] They did this thing that's not supposed to be legal.

[985] over a bunch of stuff.

[986] So if the euro fails, if there's a financial crisis there, the American taxpayers could end up bailing out the European banks by transferring their assets.

[987] I mean, it's, so again, I'm doing all right right now.

[988] Fuck Bank of America too.

[989] But, like, who's that, that one guy that just donated a shitload of money to Bank of America?

[990] Like some singer or something like that just donated a shitload of money to Bank of America or to Bank of America?

[991] Not a singer.

[992] There's some celebrity guy.

[993] Here, I'll find out.

[994] Yeah, find out.

[995] I've never heard of anybody donating money to a bank.

[996] That's so.

[997] With all the connectivity that we have in this day and age, just as you're saying, it's crazy that the government is run the way it is, right?

[998] When I go to pay taxes...

[999] That's what this protest is all about.

[1000] Yeah, I think so.

[1001] But so, you know, this is a pipe dream.

[1002] But why not, you know, I pay my taxes online, pay a lot of taxes online.

[1003] And they trusted enough to be verified, and it's my social security number and blah, blah, blah, and there's the amount that I'm paying, and the government takes it, state and federal, right?

[1004] If I can pay my taxes online, we can do a system that does that, why can't I pay my taxes?

[1005] and then apportion those taxes directly to the funds and the projects and the things that I want.

[1006] Let me vote truly democratically with my dollars.

[1007] Now, if we have to set minimum levels, you know, for defense spending or, you know.

[1008] Well, you're talking crazy now.

[1009] Why?

[1010] Because, first of all, this isn't a democracy.

[1011] But why not?

[1012] It's a representative republic, right?

[1013] Yeah.

[1014] That's what we are.

[1015] Right.

[1016] We're represented by a handful of people that the corporation's own.

[1017] You don't even get to know where your money goes.

[1018] They don't even have to give you a receipt.

[1019] great would that be if I could decide where it's going to go.

[1020] How gross is that, by the way, that you pay, like, what do you, you're probably in like a 38 % tax bracket or something, right?

[1021] You're doing really well.

[1022] One year, uh, when I wasn't incorporated, like now I'm a court, I can work for myself as a corporation.

[1023] Right.

[1024] But the last year that I wasn't, I paid 43 or 47 % of my income to taxes.

[1025] How nutty is that?

[1026] Think, let's just round that bitch off to half.

[1027] You're paying half of your money.

[1028] Half of it.

[1029] And you don't even get a statement that says, hey, you helped fix a road.

[1030] You helped pay for cops.

[1031] You helped.

[1032] You helped.

[1033] You helped.

[1034] Support firefighters.

[1035] You don't even get a fucking receipt.

[1036] They don't have to tell you shit.

[1037] Warren Buffett.

[1038] Oh, Warren Buffett.

[1039] Donate to Bank of America?

[1040] To help Bank of America, I think he bought a bunch of stocks.

[1041] He bought $357 million.

[1042] Is that what I said?

[1043] In stocks?

[1044] No, invests is $5 billion in Bank of America.

[1045] Oh, well, that's not donate anybody.

[1046] No, no, but he did it to help them.

[1047] That's what his reasoning was.

[1048] I'm sure it was purely altruistic.

[1049] He's also old.

[1050] as fuck and doesn't give a shit.

[1051] He's a weird cat.

[1052] That guy lives in like a regular house.

[1053] He's a super, super, super rich guy.

[1054] He lives in like middle America, lives in a regular house.

[1055] Really?

[1056] Yeah, yeah.

[1057] It does not live extravagantly by any means.

[1058] And he has apparently donated a substantial portion of his riches to charities when he dies.

[1059] Good for him.

[1060] Yeah, good for him.

[1061] Yeah, he's an interesting cat at Warren Buffett.

[1062] I like that.

[1063] I've heard him vilified several times, so that's nice to hear that side of it.

[1064] Well, he probably feels bad for all the creepy shit that he did to get a hundred fucking billion dollars or whatever he's got stashed under his mattress he just worked hard joe anybody can do it it's not impossible you're talking about videos uh that disturbed you in that that video of uh the the the dogs getting killed yeah earlier there's something that disturbed me way more and i couldn't even watch it i just heard about it it was a baby getting run over in china the baby got run over back and forth like a bunch of times and people stepped over the body of the baby this video of them stepping over it and nobody did a goddamn thing about it was a two -year -old baby just wandering around run over by a truck the truck sees it run over it doesn't do anything about it.

[1065] It gets back in the car, runs over it again with its back wheels.

[1066] Yeah.

[1067] And then another person runs over.

[1068] I mean, it's, we, as human beings, man, you know, we have to look at what are we like at our worst.

[1069] What do we like at the, at the most callous and unloving?

[1070] That's got to be an example that right up there with war, you know, that's right up to at least leave a note.

[1071] Like, sorry I hit your baby.

[1072] Here's my license plate.

[1073] I'm insured.

[1074] You got to at least do that because that's fucked up.

[1075] Well, I don't know whose fucking baby was just wandering around the streets first of all you know where there's no one that did anything about it they didn't even know the baby was run over there was no screaming there was no my god where's my baby just when when population density gets to a certain number and the value of life diminishes because it's just a just too many goddamn humans and literally not enough food for people so instead of someone being valuable you're actually a hindrance everybody's hindrance right you're you're a resource drain I'm sorry but that's you know that's what you are at times and thankfully Siri is going to figure out how to turn us all into batteries and the matrix is going to fucking happen guys Siri's going to figure that shit out well if it's not that it may be aliens you know one of the things I've always said about aliens you know people think I have several friends that are obsessed with aliens Eddie Bravo being the biggest one he he fucking loves UFOs loves the idea that they're out there man they're out there it's so exciting for him it's so sexy for him me I'm not so convinced I look at around at all the goddamn video footage that people have on their cell phones and and then I see the video footage of UFOs and I'm like this is horseshit.

[1076] These are fake.

[1077] They just smell to me. They all stink.

[1078] Nothing seems real.

[1079] There's not a single fucking video of anyone spotting a little gray man running around their backyard.

[1080] And that doesn't mean it's not real.

[1081] It doesn't mean that if they were here they couldn't avoid detection, but I don't believe it.

[1082] And my other take on it is that if they did exist, we probably wouldn't want them here.

[1083] Because guess what?

[1084] They're not going to just let us run things as usual and give us more information so we can blow each other up quicker.

[1085] No, they're going to treat us the same way we treat dolphins and whales.

[1086] We don't give a fuck about them.

[1087] You know, we kill whales every day.

[1088] Not we, not you and I, obviously, but people in this world kill whales every day.

[1089] We take dolphins, we Americans do, and we lock them in fish tanks.

[1090] We take these amazing animals and we put them in a fucking swimming pool.

[1091] And we don't give a shit about them, you know?

[1092] We really don't.

[1093] When they say an animal escaped from a zoo, it's like that's because you put it in a prison.

[1094] It escaped.

[1095] It went home, you asshole.

[1096] You got free of your fucking jail.

[1097] escape.

[1098] You know, you lock this guy up for nothing.

[1099] But why would we think that anything more intelligent than us would treat us any differently than we treat the most intelligent things that we're aware of?

[1100] Chimpanzees and dolphins are the most intelligent, and orcas, the most intelligent things that we're aware of.

[1101] We just lock them up.

[1102] We don't give a fuck, man. We put, we experiment on them.

[1103] You know, we put them in cages.

[1104] We teach them how to do tricks for our amusement.

[1105] You know, why the fuck would we think that aliens would do anything different?

[1106] We steal their babies, man chimpanzees dolphins orcas we steal their fucking babies what if we are a zoo for the aliens we very well could be man we know very well what if they are just walking around right now invisible going can you believe they're doing that shit right oh my god well let's let's make this guy do that and see what happens oh my god well if you think about you know what we're capable of right now you ever go to the wild animal park in san diego yeah it's fucking amazing yeah huge huge place you drive around there i mean these animals have habitat dude did you ever feed the giraffes I actually never went there, but that's where Cliffy B is getting married.

[1107] Oh, is he really?

[1108] Like on a giraffe?

[1109] He's somehow a guy set up, yeah, he's going to get...

[1110] He's a crafty dude.

[1111] That sounds like something who would do.

[1112] It's an amazing setup.

[1113] They have a lot of room.

[1114] These animals are...

[1115] It's not ideal, but they have a lot of room.

[1116] So just extrapolate that.

[1117] Take that to 100 million years of evolution or whatever the fuck.

[1118] You know, who knows how long, you know, life can exist on certain planets.

[1119] And they could be so fucking sophisticated.

[1120] They could have, like, not just created a planet, but, you know, but engineered our whole environment.

[1121] Right.

[1122] Well, let's see what happens here.

[1123] It's truly Sim Earth.

[1124] The same way we do it with ants and video games are now people in the Sims.

[1125] Like, what if they just, no, let's see how this one turns out.

[1126] Can you imagine if the whole idea of asteroidal impacts and, you know, of mass extinction events was actually a programmed cycle that we're just not aware of it?

[1127] We just are still assuming that there's sort of a random nature to all these rocks out there colliding but really they just happen every certain amount of millions of years just some sort of a global reset that just keeps going on getting defragged yeah until your until your civilization becomes so intelligent that it can spot it and prevent it you know that's the mad race that's like the test yeah the mad race is to get off the planet some sort of an artificial environment that you control be it a large spaceship or a giant artificial planet and to avoid all the cosmic impacts solar flares all the really big shit that happens supernovas when hypernovas happen everything anywhere near it in the galaxy just gets cooked instantly and that shit can happen to us why I hate that I wasn't fucking alive for the space race I'm serious yeah you mean the notion of it and it might be a nostalgia that I've absorbed not as much it's more about who can fire lasers from satellites now it's not about like let's explore and I know that was the bill of goods that we were sold.

[1128] I'm sure it had a lot to do with defense testing and everything else, but, you know, if all the money that we did, and I don't know, this is, this is just me wishing we could vote with our tax dollars again.

[1129] But like, if a fraction of the money we spent blowing shit up in some other fucking country was spent to just solving something, like a problem for humanity here, oh, no doubt.

[1130] It could be leaders again, and we could be, you know, positively revered, and we could fucking help the world.

[1131] Yeah, well, not even just that.

[1132] I'm going to sing that in a group of people.

[1133] The curiosity of expression of, you know, just chat.

[1134] traveling the fucking universe and finding out what what it is like on Mars, you know, have humans set up some sort of a civilization on Mars where they, you know, what is that called, where they, you take a, total recall?

[1135] No, when you take an environment and you, you sort of engineer it to a geo -oforming?

[1136] Yeah, geoforming, yeah, when you, you recreate.

[1137] We need more ozone, all right, let's do that.

[1138] We need some water here.

[1139] Let's ship that in, you know, let's terraform on this level.

[1140] You know, and they said that you could do this, that you could take machines, and you could build them on Mars, massive, massive machines, like literally the size of cities.

[1141] Like, they would be like a Manhattan -sized machine.

[1142] And that machine would just be pumping oxygen into the environment and that somehow or another would...

[1143] It's called the reactor, and Quaid starts it with his alien hand.

[1144] Did you not see Total Recall?

[1145] I did see that.

[1146] Is that what it was in Total Recall?

[1147] Start the reactor.

[1148] And he pushes the reactor and the rods go in and the fucking oxygen on the planet.

[1149] Oh, that's right.

[1150] And it stops Arnold's head from freaking out when he's on the side of the mountain.

[1151] Right.

[1152] Those aren't amazing.

[1153] That's some stupid movies actually based on real scientific ideas.

[1154] The three -boob thing.

[1155] The three -boob thing.

[1156] You know it goes a lot of three - boobs?

[1157] You can get an implant in the third one.

[1158] No one's ever done it.

[1159] You know, when girls have three nipples.

[1160] I've never heard of a girl really having three nipples.

[1161] Oh, you've never seen one?

[1162] Yeah, I know a couple people.

[1163] I know guys and girls that have three nipples.

[1164] Really?

[1165] Yeah.

[1166] Are they like next to each other?

[1167] It's creepy because it's just like the nipple part is not the ariola.

[1168] Oh, wow.

[1169] So it's just like this weird nipple.

[1170] I guess out of all freak show genetic mishaps.

[1171] can have that ain't that bad you know to have an extra nipple who's going to complain yeah extra testicle wouldn't be that bad either yeah maybe what if your loads are just overwhelming like there's a they some guys want that yeah maybe it was too much i saw a product at gnc called max load next to the checkout counter gnc on the counter i took a photo of it made me laugh so hard i tweeted it and it said come harder come longer come like better it was like three hits and there was like you know fucking max load or what yeah on the on the counter but the checkout counter like where a take a penny leave a penny should be it was like dudes come harder that's that was on the counter at the gns that's amazing what a crazy world and it fucking did not work that is internet work didn't work at all i fucking came pixie dust for like a week oh my poor little girl it was just glitter and wishes it tastes different no no citrusy do you think that's the internet that's got people so desensitized you get there's fetish porn now where they're using fake dicks and pumping gallons of fake semen out of them to splash all over people and they're doing like drive -by cum shots and like Like, splattering girls that are just walking down the sidewalk.

[1172] Okay, that's actually pretty bad.

[1173] That'd be hilarious if that's how the gang settled their warfare with drive -by -com shots.

[1174] That's actually pretty funny.

[1175] It'd be brilliant.

[1176] Well, what are they going to do when CGI gets to a point where everybody can afford it, including, you know, porn companies?

[1177] Right.

[1178] It's on your phone.

[1179] It'll be real time.

[1180] They have, like, you know, Japanese, what is that called?

[1181] That hentai?

[1182] Yeah, where their tentacles look real.

[1183] They'll have that, but in realistic human form.

[1184] They're so close, dude.

[1185] They're so close.

[1186] Oh, yeah.

[1187] Women'll just get split open.

[1188] I think it's going to be procedurally generated.

[1189] dude, you're going to be able to go to a website and through series and knobs, select exactly the kind of woman you want, fucking slider her tits, choose her height, the hair color, select the scenes and positions and hit play.

[1190] And that shit is going to auto -generate, and it's going to destroy humanity.

[1191] What'll happen first?

[1192] Holograms or virtual reality that's super realistic?

[1193] Well, it depends on your definition of super realistic.

[1194] For me, like, virtual reality isn't true virtual reality unless the shit is being into my brain, unless it being, like, beamed into it, or electrified into it.

[1195] I don't care if it's through a helmet or a glove.

[1196] But until my brain is being tricked to imagine ones and zeros, I'm not going to call VRVR.

[1197] Do you think it's impossible to do that without some sort of an electronic aid?

[1198] Or do you think that they'll be able to figure out, I thought at one point in time, I don't know about the science behind this because this is all just out of my imagination, but that there may be a frequency that they can tune into, that the human mind can tune into, for whatever reason, that they may be able to find a frequency that you could tune into where when you put yourself in a relaxed state, it can generate thoughts.

[1199] You know what?

[1200] I think, I just had a bizarre thought about that.

[1201] I was like, no, what they'll do is I'll engineer it.

[1202] Because, like, the transhumanism thing, they'll enter, like, they'll create a chip first that allows you to perceive that, but you'll still need power to generate it.

[1203] But then we'll get so good with, like, fucking manipulating molecules and DNA.

[1204] We'll create the cell that will be put into something virus style that gives people perception to that.

[1205] So imagine like a chip for Bluetooth or Wi -Fi.

[1206] We're going to engineer that on a, on a biochemical level so that you can now perceive this thing.

[1207] So you and I can communicate telepathically.

[1208] This device can beam the images into me. Wow.

[1209] Why not, right?

[1210] Why not?

[1211] Like a flu shot.

[1212] But like, yeah, but a viral fucking, you know, Bluetooth shit.

[1213] But Bluetooth kind of sucks.

[1214] Bluetooth 7 .0.

[1215] If they're talking about genetic engineering and they're always talking about the possibility of nanobots to go in and cure cancer, what about the idea of artificial cells?

[1216] I mean, they've, what was it that they just discovered recently, they created something that reproduced itself in a lab for the first time.

[1217] Yeah.

[1218] What was it?

[1219] I saw something like that.

[1220] some structure, some small structure, an atom or whatever it was, they reproduce itself.

[1221] What if they can create artificial cells, they inject this artificial cell into you, and slowly but surely over the course of however long it takes to regenerate inside all of your tissue, you become like a superhuman.

[1222] I absolutely see that happening.

[1223] That's not outside the realm of possibility.

[1224] No, no. And what concerns me is the potential.

[1225] We think we're having class war now, class warfare now.

[1226] imagine the have and have -nots in that day and age.

[1227] Oh, my God.

[1228] When it's like, it's pure Gattaca shit of like, well, hey, I was born with it because I got upgraded.

[1229] And, you know, I can perceive this shit that you can't and manipulate you with my mind.

[1230] So, sorry, you're just a thing.

[1231] We're going to enslave ourselves before the aliens do.

[1232] I don't see any escape from the technological singularity.

[1233] Do you, do you see any, I mean, I don't see any escape from artificial intelligence.

[1234] I worry that, I worry that, um, stunted minds will not allow us to evolve to that point.

[1235] I don't think they have a chance.

[1236] I don't think those stunted minds have a fucking chance.

[1237] I think it'll be on them before they even know what hit them.

[1238] I think no one is stopping the onset of artificial intelligence.

[1239] No one is putting the brakes to it.

[1240] Everybody's worrying about weapons.

[1241] Everybody's worrying about these threats from terrorists and all these different things.

[1242] What about a sentient, super intelligent computer that can do things?

[1243] I think we're so on the path to that.

[1244] We're absolutely on the path to it.

[1245] But we don't know, you know, it may look at us and just go, you're molecules.

[1246] Exactly.

[1247] I could use you more efficiently.

[1248] thanks.

[1249] We don't know if it's going to be that way.

[1250] We don't know if whoever gets it first, whether it's the U .S. or the Chinese, they're going to put a hook in it that allows them to use it for whatever they want.

[1251] We don't really know, like the AI might become the next nuclear weapon before it becomes sentient enough to stop ourselves from blowing the shit out of each other.

[1252] That is possible, but I don't think that's going to happen.

[1253] I think once something becomes sentient, we're done.

[1254] I don't think we have any more saying anything.

[1255] And I think the idea of controlling it once it has the ability to rationalize and realize how silly we are as a species.

[1256] that if we get to that, it's going to happen.

[1257] But there is a sliding scale of fully sentient AI and where we're at now.

[1258] And I'm worried that right here, when we're almost there, right here, it's going to be just powerful enough and someone's going to have it and use it to take the rest of the world all the way back.

[1259] That's what scares me. That's what scares me. That's the story that they tell after the apocalypse.

[1260] That's it.

[1261] After it's all over, you know, of how close we were to, and the scientists sit around and discuss how close you were to changing the world.

[1262] And now they realize that they're old men and there's no. no medicine around anymore you barely can find gasoline and we could have had it all and a few greedy men who still live on with that AI still have it and then 10 ,000 years for now people find all these different ruins in America when America's covered with ice and then the ice withdraws again you know just like it's happened before right absolutely fuck and maybe they'll find a thumb drive frozen in ice and maybe one day figure out how to you know unencrypted but I doubt it I doubt it but they do find things they do find some old fucking shit they can't account for you know the idea of glaciers though the real problem with glaciers we had graham hancock in here i don't know if you listen to that one he's a fascinating dude who are are you talking about chicks that look skinny from the waist up oh those are icebergs sorry glaciers chakes that look skinny for the waist up or icebergs because above the surface they look all right but down below it's oh that's hilarious so i'm sorry glaciers glaciers move on land and essentially grind everything underneath them down to nothing because they move, you know, several feet a year or whatever they do, but they're essentially a mile high sheet of ice that's slowly moving its way across the ground.

[1263] And anything used to be there.

[1264] Any buildings, anything.

[1265] Done.

[1266] Giant boulders moved miles.

[1267] It's a slow -mo tsunami.

[1268] It's like a slow -mo frozen tsunami.

[1269] Just like later.

[1270] How powerful is that image?

[1271] Have you ever been to the Great Lakes?

[1272] No. That's how powerful the imagery is.

[1273] You have to go.

[1274] The Great legs are something to really wrap your head around.

[1275] I mean, the oceans really made me think obviously you know everybody looks at the ocean and goes wow it's so big that's amazing but until you see a freshwater ocean and you go that used to be ice and it melted it used to be a giant sheet of ice and that's why it's here i mean the great lakes are magnificent they're amazing man they're so fucking i was big just near them too for a wedding i'm kind of pissed i didn't get out there oh you got to go but i had to see a cracker barrel so we went out of the way to see that shit we're like they frame their racists it's amazing they what in the Cracker Barrel.

[1276] When you go inside, it's just photos of old slave owners, just framed around watching you eat breakfast.

[1277] Really?

[1278] I like the gift shop.

[1279] It's like all licorice Wips and like old school Bromish games.

[1280] Did you see that shit speaking of the Midwest, all the animals?

[1281] Have you seen all the photos and videos and all that?

[1282] I put that on my Twitter.

[1283] We were talking about as there was a guy in Ohio who was running a wild animal preserve shot himself and released all the animals.

[1284] I didn't know that was a catalyst.

[1285] He committed suicide.

[1286] He Let all the animals go, and then he committed suicide, which is kind of interesting.

[1287] I wonder why the dude did he leave a note?

[1288] Like, I can't imprison these guys anymore?

[1289] I don't know.

[1290] It's the question.

[1291] I wonder why I didn't just let one of the tigers jack him.

[1292] If you're going to kill yourself, why not just kill yourself by tiger?

[1293] That'd be wild.

[1294] Well, you're around these wild animals every day.

[1295] You know it'd be quick.

[1296] It wouldn't take long at all.

[1297] Just jump in there naked and go, what, bitch?

[1298] What?

[1299] Yeah.

[1300] There's something weird about the whole story, though, because the sheriff knew him very well.

[1301] I guess he had to go up there all the time.

[1302] Like, there was shit going on all the time with this guy.

[1303] And if you look at his house on Google Maps, it's actually listed as a Harley, like, motorcycle shop.

[1304] So he had a farm.

[1305] Was it like an illegal preserve?

[1306] He was running out the back?

[1307] Like, I don't think it was illegal.

[1308] But so it's weird.

[1309] Like, I want to know the whole story, like what this guy was going on with this guy.

[1310] And now, Jack Hanna, the Columbus Zoo, is overlooking this whole thing.

[1311] But I was surprised that they couldn't.

[1312] You know, I know they had to shoot a lot of them, but this seems like there's some of them they could have tried, you know, to tranquilize or something like that.

[1313] The police force didn't have a chance, man. You know, what was going on?

[1314] Yeah, but the zoo's, the zoo, honestly, is like 30 miles away from where this happened.

[1315] Yeah, but do you understand what I'm saying?

[1316] Do they have the resources to get out there?

[1317] Like, the animals were out, and there's people living there.

[1318] And there's 40 fucking 50 animals and tigers and bears and shit.

[1319] This isn't mountain line poachies poodle on Runyon Canyon.

[1320] This is, if you go to my Twitter, today, while we're recording this, a lot of people get this online.

[1321] But today is October 19th.

[1322] If you go to my Twitter on October 19th, I retweeted somebody about this.

[1323] The guy's name is Kenny Royer 3.

[1324] He looks like a winner, too.

[1325] He might be.

[1326] Have you seen his face?

[1327] Here's his face right there on Eastern.

[1328] It's okay.

[1329] Anyway, I went to...

[1330] Did he write a story about it?

[1331] No, he just tweeted to me and I retweeted it.

[1332] But there's a photo.

[1333] If you go to cleavesene .com, I guess that's a Cleveland website, cleavecine .com.

[1334] it's very graphic there's an image of all of these animals just laid out murdered tigers and bears a bunch of them lions panthers were they all like in a globe yeah they're all in a pile here they've they hunted them down the cops hunted them down yeah come on over the cops hunted them down and just shot them all you know you got to think what the cops are dealing with the cops are dealing with 50 fucking killers 50 wild killers that are aggressive and they're wandering streets you know I mean they got to do what they gotta do it sucks that these animals how to die but you know what it even sucks these animals around a fucking cage and some assholes backyard how is how is one guy how was one guy able to release all those animals like was there nobody else on this preserve it was his gig it was his he just unlocked him on it so i guess guy and it's responsible i talked to my sister who lives very close to this uh and i said you know what are they saying to you guys and they're like well they're saying that they're shooting all the animals because they all have herpes and stuff is what they're saying on the news is that the animals are all infected with some kind of...

[1335] The last thing you have to worry about is the tiger with herpes.

[1336] You don't know the way I think, dude.

[1337] I'm like, I have a chance to fuck a lion.

[1338] Later, bro.

[1339] I'm fucking YouTubeing this.

[1340] Get some lion herpes.

[1341] Your dick looks like a cactus.

[1342] The dick just grows these cactus things off the side of it.

[1343] Yeah, but I guess something about herpes.

[1344] No. I think your sister's crazy.

[1345] No. You don't believe me?

[1346] Well, they might have been saying that to...

[1347] They might have been saying that to people to, so they didn't feel like, oh, you're killing the tigers.

[1348] I know they treat people like they're idiots in Ohio, but they don't treat them like they're that stupid.

[1349] Yeah, it says, Muscamium County Sheriff says Monkey with Herpes Virus still missing Oh that's the one they haven't got yet Oh you know what?

[1350] They probably don't want anybody Keep it as a pet Hell yeah Maybe that monkey knows things Maybe you get that monkey and that monkey's one of those fucking Planet of the Apes Monkeys and he starts talking to you Did you see that remake?

[1351] They know that there's an alien coming They know that there's an asteroid You can't stop it And the aliens is going to land right before the asteroid That's a little monkey talking to it Did you watch the Planet of the Apes remake?

[1352] Do you guys see that?

[1353] Yeah, and we talked about it.

[1354] about a couple of times.

[1355] I liked it.

[1356] I like the special effects.

[1357] It's badass.

[1358] It's fascinating.

[1359] You know, when you talk about manipulating genetics, you know, it's not outside the realm of possibility that they've already done something like that.

[1360] They've already created some sort of chimpanzee human being hybrid.

[1361] Well, dude, when they tell you, the shit that they tell you they have done already.

[1362] You know that there's a clone baby being monitored right now somewhere out there and they're seeing exactly how that worked and genetically ear genetically engineered kids out there.

[1363] They're running tests on them right now.

[1364] Like, that's absolutely happening.

[1365] I've always said that by the time they tell you that they're capable of making a clone, the guy telling you is probably a clone.

[1366] Right.

[1367] It's been that problem.

[1368] There are clones.

[1369] I'm the proof.

[1370] Here you go.

[1371] I wonder how far ahead they really are.

[1372] I would really love to know.

[1373] You know, every now and then I hear like whispers of things of technology, like military technology that's so far and above, you know, the realm of what we currently think is possible.

[1374] We always hear like they have the satellites that can zoom in on a hot dog on your grill and they had those in 1983, man. Right.

[1375] I don't I'm they probably do I don't know never seen any images from space that I that were like really clear like that like they could read a license plate I've never seen that well there was a point in time where they had Google imagery quality map and you weren't able to see that and now we can see that and then we can see 3D versions of it and street views and all that of the shit if we have access to that data you know they've got better access than that they have to they've got to have real time video something yeah there must be some and I don't have look I have a tinfoil hat that says I bet they have it but that's about it Well, when I was hanging out with my friend Mike Swick, my friend Mike Swick's UFC fighter, he used to live in Russia, and he was doing a defense contractor work over there.

[1376] And they had an American building, and they would find bugs that the Russians had installed in their buildings.

[1377] And he said they were so sophisticated.

[1378] It was so far above anything they'd ever seen before.

[1379] They had monitoring devices that were powered by the movement of the building.

[1380] By the subtle vibrations.

[1381] It's like...

[1382] No, no, no. You know how I'm building sway?

[1383] There's a subtle swaying back and forth.

[1384] That was powering these listening devices.

[1385] They were that sophisticated.

[1386] That's like those shake -to -charge iPod holders.

[1387] But they have it on that level that they can get the sway of a building and a device low, powerful enough, and mesh networked enough to spread those ideas.

[1388] And that's how they were listening in on shit.

[1389] China was just involved in a huge scandal for that.

[1390] Was it China or Korea?

[1391] That's bad that I don't know the difference for this article.

[1392] No, I know the difference of the places.

[1393] I don't know the source of the article Prepare for a shit storm online.

[1394] But they had a, yeah, bring it.

[1395] They already kicked my ass in StarCraft.

[1396] Oh, wait.

[1397] Which ones are those?

[1398] Those are Koreans.

[1399] Thank you.

[1400] They had little bugs in cars and they thought they were like, listen, this is just tracking how often you drive for discounts or for, you know, carpool riders and to help you get through the, it's like a fast pass lane kind of thing, right?

[1401] This will just help you get through the toll booth.

[1402] It had audio recording and some said video recording built into the tiniest little bug that was sitting on their dash so that they can monitor everybody.

[1403] Dude, eventually someone's going to hack Apple and they're going to get into your fucking webcam.

[1404] Your cloud.

[1405] They're going to get in your cloud.

[1406] A million people beating off videos of people sitting in front of their computers.

[1407] Your computer has a monitor on it.

[1408] Your computer has a camera on it and you're connected to the internet.

[1409] You're just assuming that nobody's watching.

[1410] You beat off like a lab rat.

[1411] The Xbox, no, all the Xbox cameras and all the laptop lenses.

[1412] But the thing I'm worried about is the photo streaming.

[1413] Like you said earlier off a camera that you turned off your photo stream, which is a new thing on the new iPhones and stuff like that it's the cloud so every time you take a photo it sends it to your home computer it sends it to your iPad sends it to whatever and uh you can't delete the photos which is really annoying but uh but but you can't delete them from your phone or you can't delete from the photo stream yeah you can't uh i didn't know that yeah it's like once it's in the photo stream you can't delete it i don't know if there's if there's a way to do it but like you try it on your phone or anything it there's no way to delete a photo i'm sure on your main computer maybe on your main computer but think about that time you you you you you you do snap a photo out at a party or something like that.

[1414] And it's, oh, shit, it's already on my photo stream.

[1415] I can't get to my laptop.

[1416] And Mrs. Pereira opens up your laptop and says, God damn it, Kevin.

[1417] Or Bobby, who's in his car sniping your Wi -Fi or whatever, now has all your photos, you know.

[1418] Is that easy?

[1419] Well, I mean.

[1420] Someone snipes your Wi -Fi.

[1421] They can't get your photos.

[1422] Oh, yeah.

[1423] Oh, yeah.

[1424] There are applications.

[1425] You can, I've run one at the airport in Vegas, and you run it up on your Mac.

[1426] And you connect to, like, the public Wi -Fi.

[1427] and as people browse Facebook and as GIFs and JPEGs pop in, it automatically reassembles them on the monitor for you.

[1428] So you can sit in the lobby of a small airport and just look around and see what everybody's looking at.

[1429] One of my favorite things.

[1430] This was a Mac or PC?

[1431] This was a Mac program.

[1432] I think it was, it wasn't Kismet.

[1433] There was a, I'll give you the app.

[1434] So does everyone else have to be on a Mac or can then be on anything?

[1435] No, if they're just connected to Wi -Fi and browsing certain services and certain packets are coming in, you can do that.

[1436] So PC or Mac, no matter what it is.

[1437] Yeah.

[1438] So that's not secure.

[1439] So that's not secure.

[1440] So what you're telling me is you're a criminal.

[1441] You are, committing a crime no because these photos are in in the shared folder right is that what you're saying because these photos were being downloaded and uploaded potentially on a public unsecured well you had to log in but a public you know secured Wi -Fi spot right but people were sending them it could be some dirty hooker who's got one of them facebook pages that you have to get a friend to look at it absolutely could have been showing some titan absolutely could have you could have got that titty for free I have I'm saying I have this video called a kitty fart cup and anytime I'm on the road with Joe we're sitting at the airport I look at you know people with shared folders and stuff and I'll just drag this video into I've done it like a million times I do that every Comic -Con every Comic -Con I cede into public folders at the hotel because if you're connected, never connect to hotel systems never connect to a hotel network that's like laying on the on the mattress naked you do not do that you're asking for people to fuck with your computer and the crazy thing is you could actually sit there and fuck people over by like putting child porn on people's computers and then if that person gets arrested oh you have child porn on your computers they caught a guy doing that they caught a next -door neighborhood who had been terrifying these people for fucking years doing exactly that and they uh he turned them in and this guy's uh he was a their next door neighbors terrorizing the whole fucking family do you know that there's a child pornography uh checksum database what what so checksums are what you use uh like it's like a files ID it's it's it's thumbprint so if you download a file and you want to make sure you got it exactly as though as it should be it's a way of verifying the file to make sure no bits were altered or harmed in the transmission they have a database of every uh child pornography and and elite pornography video sorted by title with checksums so that way if the police are scanning Wi -Fi or get somebody's files from the internet they can match the check some of the file on their hard drive to one that's already in the database and see if it's in there so they don't have to watch the video but they've got that database already so it's impossible for another video to have the same amount of bytes like what if it's the exact same amount of seconds and the same resolution well it's also based off the content of the file as well you know so it's not just a link thing so it's not just a size it's a it's a an actual frequency?

[1442] There's a thousand attributes that go into it.

[1443] Oh, how are they reading that?

[1444] Just they're analyzing each and every individual file?

[1445] I think this is pure conjecture, actually.

[1446] So I shouldn't be saying it.

[1447] But I would imagine if you're doing a checksum, it could just know that every 100 bytes, here's a character string here, so there's a check for it there, every X bytes.

[1448] This is the character, like this is the hex, put it there.

[1449] I think it's way more elegant than that because I can already poke holes in that.

[1450] But there is a way to do it.

[1451] Think about how crazy Shazam is.

[1452] Think about that thing.

[1453] that program where you go to a club and there's a song of playing and you like the song so you press Shazam it sends a signal and 10 seconds later it tells you what that fucking analyze the file here it is and I'm not exaggerating if you never use Shazam it's fucking incredible it's 10 seconds later think of that it's basically the same thing but they have that now for TV as well they have that for video they're going to have that for all that shit like the image and app recognition image engine what a weird world we live in right now have you guys talked about Siri becoming Skynet no we haven't I talked about it do you want to hop into that yes please because someone actually sent me something.

[1454] We had talked about on the show.

[1455] Real quick, dude.

[1456] Just so I don't get raped on Twitter.

[1457] I believe you analyze the file locally and it spits out a checksum.

[1458] So it is checking every bit of the file.

[1459] And then you check that against the public checksum.

[1460] Just so I don't want to deal with those tweets tonight.

[1461] I can't do it.

[1462] It's not in my soul anymore, man. I'm just trying to help.

[1463] So with that said, I'm sorry.

[1464] Okay, so someone wrote that.

[1465] I said that Siri was based on Wolfram Alpha, but it's not exactly true.

[1466] It's integrated.

[1467] It incorporates WolframAlpha.

[1468] It's integrated.

[1469] But this is where it gets crazy.

[1470] It's based on Calo.

[1471] The cognitive assistant that learns and organizes from a company called SRI International.

[1472] And it was artificial intelligence augmentation software developed for DARPA.

[1473] Right.

[1474] The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

[1475] Those are the motherfuckers that really are Skynet.

[1476] So if this is the version we have now, what's stopping them from tapping a phone line?

[1477] grabbing a voice chat, taking the audio from this podcast, and analyzing it in real time just like Shazam, and pulling out those keywords and those context cues.

[1478] This is fascinating.

[1479] Because we have the dumb down version right now.

[1480] They've got the hot dog on the grill satellite version of it.

[1481] iPhone 5 version.

[1482] Yeah, why is it so crazy to think that?

[1483] Yeah, and this guy also wrote something about how Facebook was funded by TIA Total Information Awareness.

[1484] Facebook is starting their own super PAC to lobby the government on privacy and information control.

[1485] and what we should have rights to because they want to own the rights to your usage data your social graph, your preferences, they want to own that data.

[1486] They essentially want to own your imprint online, right?

[1487] They want to own your browsing habits where you shop.

[1488] They want to know what music you like.

[1489] They want to know what friends you connect with, where you go.

[1490] Who do you share this with?

[1491] I'm already my spacing Facebook lately.

[1492] But I'm saying, but you're not, you're kind of alone in that right now.

[1493] It's growing, right?

[1494] It's growing more and more.

[1495] They're integrating more and more.

[1496] Do you think Twitter has kind of overtaken Facebook for the most part?

[1497] I know when I talk to, you know, like, I just tweet now.

[1498] Yeah, I know a lot of people that don't do Facebook anymore.

[1499] Well, the interesting thing about Twitter is, but they can still call that together from your tweets.

[1500] It's more real time, you know, you're responding to people back and forth.

[1501] It's very, in a very similar way to text messaging, you know, and a lot of, I mean, it's essentially for a lot of what I use it for.

[1502] I mean, I throw things out there, interesting links, I retweet things, things I observe, the photos I take.

[1503] But I also go back and forth with people.

[1504] I'll shoot the shit with people.

[1505] And it's people I would, you know, ordinarily never really get a chance to run into her meet.

[1506] Like my ex -girlfriend.

[1507] Oh, yeah.

[1508] Well, she tweeted something ridiculous.

[1509] Yeah, it is facilitating a real -time conversation.

[1510] Are you upset that I said something to her?

[1511] No. Oh, you would prefer no one to communicate with her?

[1512] No. No, whatever.

[1513] So here's my question.

[1514] You brought this up, so I have to, I have to said this.

[1515] This is what I said.

[1516] She, by the way, is a penthouse pet of the year.

[1517] Okay, and she writes, and she's talking to another porno star And the other porn star says, I feel a bad cold coming on who wants to make out And she says, I'll make out with your butt So I on Twitter say, wow, just wow That's the extent of my communication with her Why you're trying to fuck his ex -girlfriend?

[1518] She says, what are you wowing?

[1519] I ignore it.

[1520] I just have to say wow.

[1521] If you run around tweeting to the whole world that you want to make out with a cold carrying Pornstar's butt, I got, a while yeah right here's my question for serious trying to fuck her joe do you think that that that there is somebody at ryan do you think there is anybody at syri that is like continuing to add to the database do you think they're looking at the top 10 things that people are asking and going why does Siri need to connect to the cloud for anything that i do even if it's a local operation right read my text messages those are already on my device if i say play joe rogan's podcast it has to send it to the cloud first and they'll say it's for voice recognition you know it's faster in the cloud and it does in your phone, but it's the program itself.

[1522] The database has to be huge for Siri, wouldn't it?

[1523] For local things, it could store that, it could totally do that, and maybe they will in the future.

[1524] But I think the reason they're making everything go to the net is for the usage data.

[1525] Because then they can see what keywords are happening, what searches people are doing.

[1526] Absolutely, they can make it better.

[1527] But with great power comes great responsibility.

[1528] And what's crazy is that I had a friend that got mad at another friend for cursing at his Siri to be like, fuck you, Siri, you're a bitch.

[1529] And he took the phone away and he's like, dude, don't do that.

[1530] I don't want that in my profile.

[1531] And he was concerned about acting a certain way to a pretty dumb artificial intelligence.

[1532] The murder thing?

[1533] I've thought about the murder thing.

[1534] Well, now it's on file, dude?

[1535] Now it's on file.

[1536] Did you do the president thing yet?

[1537] What are you talking about?

[1538] When you ask Syria a question, that's being stored somewhere.

[1539] That request is indefinitely stored in some log right now.

[1540] So if you ever are, presumed you murder somebody or someone suspects you have a murder, they can now try it out on the stand.

[1541] You asked your cell phone where to hide a body.

[1542] I wonder if they have that.

[1543] I want to know, does Apple say anywhere in those terms and agreement that they're holding onto the data of what we're saying in Siri?

[1544] Is that one of the things?

[1545] I'm sure.

[1546] I'm sure it says that it's for usage data, which, what does that mean?

[1547] I wonder.

[1548] That is kind of crazy that they have to send it out to the cloud.

[1549] Yeah.

[1550] Now, there's infrastructure reasons to do that.

[1551] There's also terrible usability reasons to not do that, being that if you have AT &T, half the time Siri doesn't work because you don't have a strong enough signal to get out to her.

[1552] What?

[1553] It's, we're faster.

[1554] What?

[1555] We're faster when it's available.

[1556] So I'm on AT &T, but it's still a shitty network.

[1557] There's no, like, bones about that.

[1558] Yeah.

[1559] But I couldn't do AT &T.

[1560] He told me that I got a new iPhone, and he told me that AT &T changed, change their system so that they can get double the speed of downloads.

[1561] It's not double.

[1562] It's up to, it could be.

[1563] It's like, it's 3 .5G.

[1564] Well, I, I try to, but it's faster, yes.

[1565] Yeah, whatever it is excellent.

[1566] But LTE is going to blow that away.

[1567] The next iPhone is LTE on Verizon, it would be amazing.

[1568] I don't have that in my current.

[1569] one, but I do have Verizon.

[1570] And I just was unable to pass on Verizon.

[1571] Verizon's just too good.

[1572] Why I said double is I actually have my girlfriend's new phone, 4S, and the foreign, both on AT &T, did both at the same time.

[1573] The 4S was double.

[1574] The speed where I was at.

[1575] That's great.

[1576] Which was my house.

[1577] That's in a really good area.

[1578] I mean, I don't get those speeds anywhere myself.

[1579] I still get up calls in the canyons.

[1580] Yeah.

[1581] But I think you look at how, like, think about Siri as that API opens up, because right now I could say, show me a good steak restaurant, and it'll do that.

[1582] It'll pop that up.

[1583] You know, then I can say, call that steak restaurant.

[1584] But once Open Table supports it, I can say, hey, Siri, put me a reservation for four at six at that restaurant, and it's just going to connect to the database, do it.

[1585] There we go.

[1586] Invite my friends.

[1587] Invite Joe, you know.

[1588] The texting alone, I think, is the best when you're just driving.

[1589] You push the button.

[1590] It was pretty accurate.

[1591] But Google has had that for a while.

[1592] It doesn't work this good, though, is what I'm saying.

[1593] This works almost, perfect.

[1594] Really?

[1595] I probably fuck up more just doing it by hand.

[1596] I've tried to Google on.

[1597] It's weird speaking into it.

[1598] because you've still got to kind of talk to it like a robot.

[1599] You can't be totally fluent with it.

[1600] And for like grammatical things, like I'm still a stickler with grammar even in text.

[1601] So I'll be like, hey, Joe, comma, I'm going to be a little late, period.

[1602] Hope that's okay, period.

[1603] Does it write period in comma ever?

[1604] It actually drops the period in there.

[1605] Have you ever tried writing like that with like, you know, I know they have the, what is it, the software?

[1606] Like a dragon speaker.

[1607] Dragon, naturally speaking, yeah.

[1608] Yeah, I've tried that before.

[1609] But I write at a different pace with a different cadence than I speak.

[1610] so for me it was really disjointed like I would say something and then be wanting to change that I edit as I write it's really really a terrible way to write but doing that verbally was even harder my brain was already past the sentence and I was like oh shit I agree with you as a matter of fact I like the idea of it and what I had thought about doing was writing at the same time as running the program in the background so the program would pick up some of the words and some of the things that I would say so just in case I couldn't remember what the fuck I had said while I was writing things.

[1611] But I agree with you.

[1612] There's an intention to actually physically typing out each individual letter.

[1613] The way I describe it is if you write the word occupy, it takes longer to write the word occupy than to know it.

[1614] Then you say occupy, boom.

[1615] Or to know what you're saying, to know what you're thinking.

[1616] So it forces you to think about things just a little bit longer.

[1617] And creatively, to me at least, it opens up different avenues for possibilities, for potentials.

[1618] Like, the way I always get my biggest, like, uh, is when I'm writing.

[1619] Because, like, I mean, I get them in ad -libbing on stage and stuff.

[1620] Sure.

[1621] But in actually sitting down and writing about something, that's when, you know, paths just appear.

[1622] You know, roads just show themselves, you know, and I don't think you'd...

[1623] See, I get crippling anxiety.

[1624] I love to do it, and it's so releasing.

[1625] But when I do it, I just see, I see those roads as highways that have sheer cliffs at the end of them.

[1626] And I'm just, fuck, got to commit one.

[1627] You got to commit to one.

[1628] That's not good writing.

[1629] music.

[1630] What do you do you listen to music when you write?

[1631] I try to listen to the language that I don't understand.

[1632] I like Brazilian music or Puerto Rican music.

[1633] I like Spanish music.

[1634] I can't do music with lyrics, even if I don't understand them.

[1635] I can do it in the background a little bit as long as I don't understand it.

[1636] Or sometimes if I'm really high, especially on edibles, I'll pick one song and just throw that bitch on reboot and I'll listen to the same song a hundred times in a row.

[1637] Oh yeah?

[1638] Oh yeah.

[1639] So I wrote some of my best shit on a plane blasted listening to the same song over and over and over again.

[1640] Have you heard the song pumped up kicks?

[1641] I know you've probably have you know what that song's about we talked about this last podcast i didn't know we talked about yeah we talked about i think we might talk about it off the air yeah i think we talked it in the green room or something like okay but yeah oh that's exactly what it was yeah it was uh the lyrics are all about columbine and it's like that was one like a song i might maybe listen to like ten times love this song and then johnny rotten told me like hey you know that's all about columbine and now it's even more crazy and i i love the lyrics i mean it's scary it's freaky yeah absolutely and it's also crazy that people are just dancing around to it like it's music too without thinking about name fan came into the octagon with that oh really that's what he was playing when he came into the octagon yeah yeah interesting choice run baby run out run my foot there's I'll listen to there's like a spectrum of there's like a frequency spectrum that's supposed to induce that kind of zoning out and I started riding with that lately it's pretty crazy can't do it all the time if you search it's like there's meditation videos and it's like 900 and something hurts sign waves that kind of loop but people have done made them like pretty sounding not just an annoying thing it's just filter sweeps through a certain band pass that triggers that sort of white noise effect.

[1642] So what is it?

[1643] Moles you into like meditative noise.

[1644] If you have headphones on, it's like buying your roll.

[1645] It really, it's kind of cool.

[1646] So it's supposed to enhance creativity?

[1647] No, it's just, well, I think you like songs with properties sometimes that you just zone out on, right?

[1648] It's on a loop.

[1649] You let it go.

[1650] Sometimes I like to be inspired too, though, man. I like, you know.

[1651] Well, yeah, that's why it's not for every writing moment, but sometimes it's great to put on something that does kind of zone you out so you're only in that process.

[1652] That helps me because audible distractions knock me out like crazy.

[1653] sometimes yes sometimes no it really depends on where I'm at with writing what I'm writing about you know I there's sometimes I need to be completely quiet completely by myself I mean I'm obviously I'm a huge proponent of the isolation tank and I come up with some of my best ideas still haven't done that that did it sober for an hour and that wasn't enough dude that's crazy I can't believe I'm talking you you know that's one of the weird things that people talk about online all the time that listen to this podcast is how many of my friends are all fucking psychedelic freaks they're they're they're trippers and they've never tried the tank yeah dude dude you you're crazy you need to get in there dude you're just scared i'm not scared i just don't have money to spend on i'll set it up i'll set it up i promise you i'll set it up we'll set it up this week i'll hook it up i'll do it if you're gonna do it i'll do it we'll share one we'll share one double day bro we'll stack it together we're gonna you need to get in there man anybody who's analyzing any part of you guys part of their mind, their thoughts.

[1654] It's the most amazing tool ever.

[1655] I started to feel it probably, I mean, what I imagined was 45, 55 minutes into it, even while sober.

[1656] Like, I really was like, okay, just let that shit go, you know, lose track and control of where your fingertips's in, the water begins, just shut all that shit out.

[1657] And I started to get there.

[1658] And I swear the moment I was getting there, hatch open, like your session's done.

[1659] I was like, oh, fuck.

[1660] Yeah.

[1661] I caught the bug.

[1662] But I got to get back in there.

[1663] It's just like, you know, we're talking to him in the kitchen before the show.

[1664] He was asking me about dreaming and, you know, what different.

[1665] new tropics that create or enhance the possibility of lucid dreaming.

[1666] And the thing about the lucid dream is that it's really slippery because once you realize you're dreaming, you kind of wake up real quick.

[1667] And that's the thing about the tank.

[1668] It's like these states that you can achieve.

[1669] I've achieved some really bizarre states.

[1670] The most bizarre one, I've talked about this before, but it's so fascinating.

[1671] I have to bring it up, and I'd never do it justice.

[1672] I was in a jungle, and I was with this indigenous population.

[1673] I don't know what their language was, but I understood it.

[1674] They were making a bunch of strange noises and sounds, and I was thinking in their language.

[1675] Could you see yourself?

[1676] Were you physically manifested in it?

[1677] I was moving.

[1678] I couldn't see myself.

[1679] I wasn't in a third -person shooter.

[1680] It was very first person.

[1681] I was walking around.

[1682] I remember feeling the dirt under my feet, feeling the leaves.

[1683] And these people were talking, and I was talking with them.

[1684] No, I wasn't talking with them.

[1685] I was understanding what they were saying.

[1686] And as I was understanding what they were saying, I was realizing, what the fuck I understand this but I was saying that to myself in English and then I was like what is this and then I was like oh this is a dream boom and then it was over but the moment while it was happening it was so amazing because it only lasted a couple minutes it was really brief but in that couple minutes it was so crazy the idea you're you're whatever it is whether it's imagination whether it's genetic memory I mean you know who the fuck knows what is stored in cells as they transfer from generation to generation, generation, there may very well be some wacky fucking file deep in your hard drive and you just get in that isolation tank on a pot brownie and it just pops open this one little cartridge that you weren't supposed to access.

[1687] Let's unencrypt that portion of your mental hard drive and just beam that experience.

[1688] And you're some little monkey person from 500 ,000 years ago walking through a rainforest speaking in some dead language.

[1689] Before the cosmic reset, that was one of those lives.

[1690] that was one of those checkpoints dude here you go it was it was one of the weirdest things the other weirder one is I'm like the other weirder one I've had hundreds of thousands of these I dicks dicks all like it was it a weird like you're just surrounded by dicks alien they have a dick inside of them the dick comes out like the ton of aliens of penises yeah um the the the number one thing is that you can never quite get deep enough like you get you get there's a bunch of videos was of me talking about this online, but there's one of them that some guy made on YouTube.

[1691] Thank you everybody, whoever does those fucking videos and all you people do and there's a bunch of people do them and take a little clips out of the podcast.

[1692] Dude, your community does a phenomenal job of representing you and everything you say, and they do a really great job.

[1693] They're amazing.

[1694] It's admirable.

[1695] I'm super fortunate.

[1696] You know, when I always say that too when I go to comedy clubs too, you know, the people of comedy clubs always say the same thing.

[1697] Like you have the nicest, the most generous and I don't know how that happened.

[1698] Thank you very much.

[1699] I don't know what it is.

[1700] I don't know.

[1701] I guess you put it out there.

[1702] and you know you hope that people see it the way you see it but um or i think they respect if you don't see it the way they see it and i think they they see that in you as well like you're very respectful even if someone disagrees with you like you're able to have that conversation when a large cross session of society isn't well i certainly that's inspiring to see that your fans carry that with them in common like i always have a good time chatting with your fans always really that's awesome always yeah i mean there's going to be always cons no matter what you do so it's going to be a certain amount of people you know i wrote about this yesterday i was responding to a bunch people who were being insulting.

[1703] I was like, man, you know, you kind of learn how to communicate with someone as if they were right there, you know, and so many people don't do that.

[1704] And the built -in anonymity that the internet has, people have, like, added it to, like, their rights, you know?

[1705] It's almost like you're allowed to be a cunt because you're anonymous.

[1706] It's like, there's a certain amount of disrespect that people are allowed to, like, shine on people.

[1707] It's like, man, this is not necessary.

[1708] You know, like, there was a conversation that Duncan and I were having and that some people loved and some people just did not love and there was some of the discussion about it was like it was so bizarre how some people just have no problem just being completely fucking rude when they know that you're going to read it you know and they're talking about in a way that's just not even remotely considering how a person's going to receive it it's it's the whole age thing too i bet a lot of these people are like 13 and 14 you're right yeah but there's no way we can stop that you know i mean unless we figure out some way to register.

[1709] I mean, we know that Wick was posting on my message board when he was 13 years old.

[1710] That's ridiculous.

[1711] You know?

[1712] Yeah.

[1713] Is he one of the good ones?

[1714] Yeah, he's great.

[1715] He's great.

[1716] He's actually going to be our science advisor.

[1717] When he graduates from school, I think I'm going to hook him up with his job.

[1718] And he'll be our science advisor.

[1719] I was, so many times that we talk about shit, we don't know what the fuck we're talking about, and he's pulling his hair out in Houston.

[1720] Yeah.

[1721] So we're going to have to hire him.

[1722] Nice.

[1723] I was, I was shocked at the anger and vitriol that even my fans had initially when I started talking about like Occupy and started talking about other things.

[1724] Really?

[1725] And I was a little, I was a little shattered, and it made me question, should I even be talking about this?

[1726] Should I be taking a stance?

[1727] And then I was like, no, absolutely I should be, because I want to be.

[1728] And immediately, when I started engaging in the conversations with the guys that were all caps, hatred, no matter what it was, like pretty much 99 % of them either turned around and saw, at least recognize it was another point of view or toned down the rhetoric and was like, hey, look, you know, I disagree, but I appreciate that you're doing what you're doing.

[1729] Some people just want to get your fucking attention.

[1730] clearly and clearly but this is the kind of thing though where you know you never know so you have to engage you have to engage if people are like well this is wrong and this is factually incorrect it's like well no here's the story read it have you seen it you have to engage because for every troll there is one person who who doesn't look up the information doesn't have access to be upset about shit even if that shit has nothing to do with it like I can't tell you any fucking people were upset at this alpha brain shit that I'm selling these neutropics these vitamins why I did But just going crazy on Twitter about it's a placebo, you're ripping people off.

[1731] And this is what I said.

[1732] I said very clearly.

[1733] And I repeat this at every fucking step of the way.

[1734] The proprietary blend that we have in that alpha brain is available online.

[1735] If you're interested and you are on a budget, please go to a vitamin store or order the individual components online.

[1736] You can get it at a discounted rate.

[1737] You could probably save like 50 % or something.

[1738] I don't know how much you'd say.

[1739] See, the big thing is that Aubrey's using all the good shit.

[1740] So in the pills, like, is that the good shit.

[1741] It is the best stuff that we can sell.

[1742] It is the best stuff that's available.

[1743] One thing I've noticed lately is...

[1744] Let me point, though.

[1745] I really, my number one concern when I talk about anything that I like, anything that's benefited in my life, and know this, this is a true statement, there's no exaggeration in this, no hyperbole whatsoever.

[1746] If I'm telling you about it, I want you to do it because I think it'll benefit you.

[1747] that's it.

[1748] I'm not trying to sell shit.

[1749] I'm not trying to sell.

[1750] I have a fucking t -shirt line that I never bring up.

[1751] It's called higherprimate.

[1752] Clothing.

[1753] Higher dashprimate .com.

[1754] I fucking never bring it up.

[1755] I wear the t -shirts every now and then.

[1756] I want people to buy them if you like them if you're cool as fuck.

[1757] I'm not trying to make a ton of money on it.

[1758] I just, if you like them, I like them.

[1759] I thought it'd be cool to have some funky t -shirts of monkeys and psychedelics.

[1760] Nobody had them.

[1761] So I decided to make my own company.

[1762] It's that simple.

[1763] I'm not, I make plenty of money doing stand -up.

[1764] from the UFC, I would never get behind anything that I didn't believe that.

[1765] It surprises me, though, you have to explain that to your viewers.

[1766] Not just have to explain it, getting fucking furious arguments with people about the efficacy of these things where you can't give them enough scientific information.

[1767] They go, well, this was for Alzheimer's patients, this and then.

[1768] You're telling me that's something that benefits Alzheimer's patients can't possibly benefit people.

[1769] So it has an effect on their mind, but it won't have an effect on a healthy mind.

[1770] It's a fucking placebo.

[1771] Some guy said, you know what's better than that?

[1772] Sleep and exercise.

[1773] Yeah, but guess what?

[1774] Fuck face, you can have sleep and have.

[1775] exercise and vitamins yeah and vitamins don't tell me that vitamins don't work because they do work vitamins are excellent I have Vidaligo it's a skin condition where I lose pigment you can see it in my like my knuckles I lose yeah but I only have a little couple spots and it stopped you know what it stopped vitamins I got heavily into vitamins when I first came to California I was under a tremendous amount of stress I had never been on TV before and I noticed I get like these white spots on my skin I was like what the fuck is this and they started spreading man I started going to doctors I was going to different vitilago specialists and I would have to take these things called sorrelins and there were pills that made me super sensitive to light and then I'd have to get in like it's almost like a tanning booth but you only go in there for three minutes and it's were they trying to tan the pigment no no no no it shocks the system um where the the parts that are losing pigment it can bring them back to life and it works in a certain way I re -pigmented shock your melatonin and it'd be like come on sort of I don't know the exact science behind it but I had areas that were they lost pigment and brought them back But you know what stopped all of it?

[1776] Completely stopped in its tracks.

[1777] Vitamins.

[1778] Right.

[1779] 100%.

[1780] Because you believed in those vitamins.

[1781] That's placebo.

[1782] People are assholes.

[1783] Listen, man, vitamins fucking work.

[1784] A healthy diet works.

[1785] Vitamins work too.

[1786] But all of it works.

[1787] And people go, what about science?

[1788] Show me the science.

[1789] Where do you think they got the vitamins?

[1790] Which craft you fuck?

[1791] Did you talk about that?

[1792] They're extracting vitamins from food.

[1793] And the way they're doing it is a scientific method.

[1794] They've done this.

[1795] They've applied scientific principles to extracting vitamins and they sell these fucking vitamins.

[1796] If you don't believe in, alpha brain, or you don't believe in vitamins, that's good for you.

[1797] But if you're fucking fighting people tooth and nail on something that they absolutely believe in, you're just trying to fight, man. And I guarantee you most likely what it is with a lot of these people is, they're not happy with their own life.

[1798] And they're probably smart, but they're fucked up.

[1799] And what they're doing is they're focusing something, whether it's online, whether it's an argument, whether it's trying to win a flame war or whatever.

[1800] And that becomes their distraction from their miserable existence, their garbage pile up in their fucking kitchen, their bills their phone ringing off the hook It sounds like the kind of person who could use a little faith in a placebo rather than being against it but just if it works go with it but here's the sad part about the really sad part about some of these people are very fucking smart they're very interesting the points that they make even though they're nonsense points they're very eloquently stated they're argued very well there's a very professional tone to the way they're writing things I'm like this is like a guy who obviously there's something wrong with this person They're really going after this as if...

[1801] Or he's just as passionate as the facts that he's collected to support his opinion.

[1802] No, not these people what I'm talking about.

[1803] There was no facts.

[1804] They had never, no personal experience whatsoever on these things.

[1805] I'm sure you...

[1806] I'm not speaking for those people.

[1807] I'm just saying that they're...

[1808] I've ran across this where there is like, you know, data is the easiest fucking thing in this world to manipulate.

[1809] Any study can be skewed.

[1810] You can prove that global warming doesn't exist.

[1811] You can prove pretty much whatever you want with numbers, the way you skew them and everything.

[1812] My point, though, was that there's obviously they're powerful.

[1813] this is a good version of a human like this isn't a dope this isn't some fucking ditch digging you wish that they were donating their processes to a more positive cause as opposed to being so negative you know it's fascinating you know that that would be a subject that would drive you nuts whether or not vitamins work you know whether brain brain vitamins were like what a weird thing to get all hyped about and he might be idolizing you though and this is something that he believes though and so this one issue with you has now shattered that and he has to prove you wrong on it could be that or he could be just a hyperfan Or he could own 40 cats.

[1814] Or they could be a contrarian.

[1815] There's some people that are just fucking contrarians.

[1816] Or 14.

[1817] Or 14.

[1818] I don't think they're 14.

[1819] I think there's a lot of older folks.

[1820] I had, I don't know.

[1821] It doesn't matter.

[1822] The point is the way the internet is set up now, the anonymity that's built in.

[1823] It's so easy for someone to be a twat.

[1824] It's so easy.

[1825] There's like virtually no repercussions.

[1826] But slowly, that's going to change.

[1827] And you better brace for it.

[1828] Okay, because the shit's going to come down on all you fuckheads because you're not going to be anonymous very much longer.

[1829] You know, suck boy 69 on fucking Reddit or whatever the hell, you know, message board you act like a shithead on, you're going on the underground forum on mixed martial arts .com or on my own message board, you're not going to be anonymous that much longer.

[1830] It's really inevitable.

[1831] There's a clear trend and that trend is connectivity.

[1832] That trend is an interlacing of information and you're not going to be able to avoid all the aspects of.

[1833] of your life.

[1834] That's why I wrote, I wrote an wired article, like, aimed at anonymous, which I know was opening up the floodgates for me to just be attacked.

[1835] But my message to them was, hey, guys, listen, like, I know it's fun to deface websites, and I know it's fun to hack Twitter accounts, but you need to, maybe you're younger, maybe you just don't give a fuck.

[1836] Maybe you really are doing it for the lulls, but you need to not get busted for the simple trivial shit right now, trolling people online and putting out their data because we need you for the fight, the real fight, you know?

[1837] Yeah, LLSEC just got turned in by an anonymous website.

[1838] proxy they were like oh wait a sec yes we uh definitely do this but in our thing it says don't do anything illegal and here we're giving the cops the information so they all got arrested there's people that hacked what was a playstation never well the real the real issue is just like occupy wall street who's in anonymous who's in lelsec there's just it's an open door right any crazy who's on my message board it's an open door any crazy asshole can join up so certainly someone could someone could deface a website in the name of anonymous you never know and that's absolutely happening now yeah there was a There was a fake anonymous video posted to have like a hack Wall Street day.

[1839] And it was like on a Monday, it was on a holiday.

[1840] And everybody said, this is clearly a plant because anonymous would never be so stupid as to attack the markets on a holiday when the markets aren't that volatile.

[1841] And they would never post it in these ways.

[1842] And people are already, it's agent provocateurs.

[1843] Just like the guy in the city bank, they're doing that out at the fucking rallies.

[1844] You know, they're doing that as hacking.

[1845] What is this man?

[1846] Those motherfuckers, does anybody want an energy drink?

[1847] That'd be awesome.

[1848] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1849] This is my friend Tom Attencio, the guy who was one of the original creators of Affliction.

[1850] He left Affliction.

[1851] He doesn't work for Affliction anymore, so I stopped wearing their shit because he's my friend.

[1852] Sweet logo, though.

[1853] I like that.

[1854] And now, he created limelight fusion energy drinks.

[1855] They're pretty fucking delicious.

[1856] They're healthy, too.

[1857] Oh, that?

[1858] Yeah, I just started drinking me. He just sent me a box in them.

[1859] But there's ginkled baloba in them and ginseng, and 250 % of the vitamin.

[1860] B6, 100 % of the niacin and 800 % of your vitamin B12 for the day.

[1861] So there's a lot of good stuff in it.

[1862] It tastes good, too.

[1863] Mix that with some vodka.

[1864] So if I drink this rocket fuel right now, am I going to be up until 8 a .m.?

[1865] No, no, it's not that bad.

[1866] It's not like a red bowl.

[1867] It's not, but by the way, I should state that I have a high tolerance of caffeine.

[1868] In fact, I quit caffeine for a day.

[1869] I took yesterday off and I had a headache.

[1870] Really?

[1871] It's very upset.

[1872] This is my first cup of coffee the day.

[1873] This is my first cup, and I'm okay today.

[1874] But that's usually how it is for me. I've done this before, where I, especially when I'm writing a lot, I drink a lot of coffee.

[1875] And then the next day, I have a headache.

[1876] I need a cup of coffee.

[1877] But if I take a full day and go through the full day and drink a lot of water, the next day, it's pretty much gone.

[1878] It's like one day.

[1879] That's pretty good that you can cycle back down that quickly.

[1880] That's my only addiction.

[1881] I have a physical addiction to caffeine.

[1882] But it's not a physical addiction where it's painful or it's like a terrible itch.

[1883] It's just like a, oh, I don't feel so good.

[1884] But you know what cures that?

[1885] fucking serious ruthless workout just get a just a maniac caveman savage adrenal pumping testosterone bleeding workout just where you fucking go full grape ape on something and then it just resets your system then water's fine i've tried to do that hungover before and it's just shattered my body for like three or four weeks when you work out yeah i've been like oh i'm a little hungover i'm a lot hungover i'm gonna go to the gym and sweat it out get those toxins out but i push it way too far and it shatters my system for like three weeks it's terrible best formula i've ever found for hangovers is this fucking alpha brain shit and coconut juice i love coconut juice and a lot of people don't and i'll tell you what this brand i'm not going to mention the name not so tasty yeah it's not that good it's not that good but i think c2 o's the best or amy and brian's pretty good also amy and bryans is pretty good but c2 o's probably best c2 o's the best and they send it to us so you're saying take one of the Placebos, one of those.

[1886] This is the shit.

[1887] Alpha brain.

[1888] The C2O is fucking delicious.

[1889] And I know a lot of people say, I've tried coconut.

[1890] It tastes like dirty dishwater.

[1891] I hear you.

[1892] Some brands actually do.

[1893] This brand is fucking delicious.

[1894] And the reason I got hooked in this brand, we were at Jiu -Jitsu and one of our buddies brought a whole case of it.

[1895] And apparently in Brazil they drink a lot of coconut water.

[1896] And we were having a ghee day.

[1897] You know, 10th plan of Jiu -Jitsu, we roll without a ghee.

[1898] The ghee is like the traditional uniform of Jiu -Jitsu.

[1899] But we, the idea that Eddie had was that, you know, first of all, in no -gee competitions, a lot of the techniques of gee Jiu -Jitsu don't work.

[1900] And in mixed martial arts, you obviously don't have a ghee.

[1901] So you should learn, like with the ghee, you grab people easier.

[1902] There's more traction.

[1903] It's easier to hold on to people.

[1904] And it's easier to get them to grab you, which is happening out, right?

[1905] That's Hoyst Gracie's strategy.

[1906] He would fight with a geon, and strikers would grab him.

[1907] They couldn't help it.

[1908] So anyway, they drank a lot of coconut juice.

[1909] So we had a ghee day, and he brought a bunch of coconut juice to, like, you know, like out of respect for Brazilians because they love to drink coconut juice and he goes you want to try one and I'm like okay just be nice you know I'm like coconut juice tastes like shit right but I drank this stuff I was like fuck this is delicious it's like the perfect flavor does it have like the coconut pulp in it because I had one like that and I'm like that's not I'm on aright with that they have coconut yeah this one is so much better than this one they're totally I don't know what the fuck they're doing C2O email me tell me what the fuck you're doing why is your coconut juice do you put sugar in here bitch unicorns see man What's the calories?

[1910] Unicorn semen.

[1911] He snuck that in there, and he wasn't even going to comment.

[1912] What's the calorie difference on that?

[1913] Oh, I don't know, man. I don't read that shit.

[1914] They sell it on Amazon.

[1915] C2.

[1916] That's where I get.

[1917] You could have it signed up so they send you a whole case like every week.

[1918] That's what I do.

[1919] I got Amazon one click on my phone.

[1920] That's so addictive.

[1921] I'll have a thought in my head.

[1922] Sox.

[1923] Anything.

[1924] I don't know.

[1925] I impulse buy everything, man. Rolling papers.

[1926] I buy my rolling papers.

[1927] I got something you got to do that.

[1928] Although I'm going to stop being a medical marijuana patient.

[1929] Why?

[1930] I'm going to stop smoking marijuana.

[1931] Because you can't have a gun anymore.

[1932] You can't have a gun or bullets.

[1933] The federal government is saying that you cannot have a gun or bullets because the federal law dictates that marijuana is a schedule on substance.

[1934] And so when you apply to the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms for a gun, to get a permit to buy a gun, you have to say that you are a user of marijuana.

[1935] Wow.

[1936] So they turn away your permit for that?

[1937] So I have to quit weed.

[1938] Did they check the medical database, though?

[1939] I'm going to go to whiskey, buddy.

[1940] No, but medical database, dude, doesn't matter.

[1941] I mean, they need, yeah, it doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

[1942] Listen, the ATF does not fuck around.

[1943] Right.

[1944] If you lie on your form that you don't smoke weed and they come to your house and there's weed in the gun, honey, you're going to jail.

[1945] That's how they, you know, got Al Capone.

[1946] You know how they got them?

[1947] They got them for tax evasion, right?

[1948] They didn't get them for running whiskey and shooting people in the head.

[1949] Is that retroactive?

[1950] Like, I don't know.

[1951] Because I own several firearms.

[1952] Exactly.

[1953] And, yeah, exactly.

[1954] Thankfully, I don't smoke pot, but if I did, I'd be really concerned right now.

[1955] Exactly.

[1956] I stopped smoking pot.

[1957] You're squares.

[1958] I'm here with a bunch of squares.

[1959] It is disgusting.

[1960] I pay my taxes.

[1961] I'm a fucking constitutional believe in American.

[1962] Constitutional believing?

[1963] It doesn't even make sense.

[1964] It did to the people you were firing up.

[1965] This is what I'm saying, God damn it.

[1966] You should be able to have fucking guns to enjoy a little weed.

[1967] And who do I want with a gun?

[1968] Do I want a guy on pain pills, on fucking Ambien?

[1969] Do I want a guy who's drinking whiskey?

[1970] Or do I want a guy who's high and paranoid and is not going to shoot anybody?

[1971] That's the guy I want.

[1972] Leave out the paranoid part.

[1973] Leave out the paranoid part.

[1974] Paranoid people are going to hide.

[1975] They're not going to go shooting people.

[1976] You're not going to rush into violence.

[1977] If you're paranoid, you're like, let me get the fuck out of here, man, what they shoot back?

[1978] You know, I don't, I don't think that marijuana inhibits your judgment to the point where having a gun, it makes it prohibitive or it makes it dangerous.

[1979] I think, if anything, it's going to make you a scaredy cat.

[1980] It's going to make you nervous.

[1981] It's going to make you, it's going to make you more sensitive to the possibilities of, you know, hurting somebody or hurting yourself.

[1982] Yeah, but they're going to point to the one dude who has a bad trip and, you know, thinks he's seeing shit off of an edible and start shooting somebody.

[1983] That's going to happen.

[1984] That's bad science, because what about the million people that don't pull their guns out because they are high?

[1985] Right.

[1986] And then just say, let's just let this go.

[1987] But any number can be manipulated.

[1988] I mean, it's clearly no worse than being able to, like, drink at a bar and have a shotgun rack on your truck, you know, when you're driving home.

[1989] No shit.

[1990] No different than places that allow that.

[1991] That's fucking crazy.

[1992] It's fucking un -American, man. It's un -American to step in and say that if you want to have something that the states have voted on and you have a goddamn right, and there's states' rights are supposed to supersede federal rights.

[1993] You're supposed to be able to decide what you can and can't use.

[1994] And the state comes along and says, you know what, we've looked at all the information.

[1995] And guess what?

[1996] There's a lot of people with glaucomas, a lot of people with cancer, there's a lot of people with anxieties, a lot of people with all sorts of different different things.

[1997] Marijuana helps.

[1998] There's a lot of people who know why it's illegal and think it's fucked up and want to get high.

[1999] I shouldn't need glaucoma.

[2000] I don't want to smoke weed.

[2001] Yeah.

[2002] The bottom line about marijuana.

[2003] This is the bottom line.

[2004] This is one way to look at it.

[2005] My friend Todd McCormick brought this up.

[2006] He said it's a commodity.

[2007] It's no different than corn or apples or pork bellies and it should be considered as a commodity.

[2008] And if it is considered as a commodity, then you have to look, well, why is this commodity being kept from the marketplace?

[2009] Who's benefiting?

[2010] And follow the fucking money.

[2011] Follow the money trail.

[2012] Because guess what?

[2013] There's not a goddamn thing in the world that's useless that makes no money that people are beating down the doors trying to make illegal.

[2014] Right.

[2015] There's not a single one.

[2016] There's not a single one.

[2017] It has to be worth something to somebody to keep that shit illegal.

[2018] That's the only way they spend money on it.

[2019] Well, it's an industrial complex.

[2020] The cops who enforce this shit that don't want to lose their jobs.

[2021] know, many of them now are for it.

[2022] Of course, most cops are.

[2023] In this day and age, when you get a fucking person on television who represents the United States government, and they start talking about going after real estate owners for renting out property to these cannabis shops, they're going to steal their fucking property, the government's going to come in from hardworking Americans who put their fucking businesses for rent.

[2024] They have this, they buy a place.

[2025] They say, well, now I'll rent this place out and I'll make myself a nice little profit.

[2026] What do you do?

[2027] Oh, you sell medical marijuana.

[2028] illegally under state guidelines.

[2029] Okay.

[2030] Well, there is Proposition 215.

[2031] It was passed in 1994.

[2032] That's been a long time.

[2033] It's been legal in the state.

[2034] So go ahead and do your business.

[2035] And the federal government comes in and says, no, we're going to steal your fucking house because you rented out to someone who sells pot.

[2036] Fuck, man. And people will say, why do you, why do you tweak out about this stuff?

[2037] Why do you let it bother you?

[2038] Because it is the ultimate fuck.

[2039] It's the ultimate ridiculous thing.

[2040] You have a plant that's literally one of the most beneficial plants on earth.

[2041] And I'm not even talking about the psychoactive portions of it.

[2042] I'm talking about the use of it.

[2043] First of all, it contains all the amino acids.

[2044] You can eat it.

[2045] It's high in protein.

[2046] Hemp protein is like some of the best protein you can get.

[2047] You can make oil out of this shit.

[2048] You can make fucking biodiesel out of this shit.

[2049] You make superior paper out of this shit.

[2050] You make clothes out of this shit that's way stronger than cotton.

[2051] It sounds fake.

[2052] When you start listing all the different cool shit that you can make with it, it literally sounds like you're lying.

[2053] It sounds like you bullshit.

[2054] Wait, this has completely better properties than anything else on the market?

[2055] Yeah, absolutely does.

[2056] But wait, it grows in any weather condition for the most part in any soil.

[2057] Think about all the trees that get chopped down to make paper.

[2058] How much fucking paper we use every day?

[2059] You can make four times as much paper in the same acreage of marijuana, and it grows back in six months.

[2060] Goes back right there.

[2061] Right away.

[2062] Instead of 20 fucking years or whatever the hell it takes to grow back your paper for trees, it's amazing.

[2063] It's one of the prime fucks, and it's one of the things that has to be addressed.

[2064] Even if you disagree, I'm sorry, but even if you disagree with what it can do, or why it can do it or the propaganda out there and even if you feel reed for madness and drugs, drugs, drugs, the sheer violation of rights.

[2065] When the federal government comes in and, as you said, boots you out of your fucking business that you put your neck on the line for and try to do legally, according to state law, that should have everybody enrage, regardless of what the subject is.

[2066] And not only that, how about prioritizing our fucking problems?

[2067] When we're living in a day and age where there's rampant crime all over the place, people are getting carjacked and shot, and you look at the fucking murder rate in Los Angeles, 20 million fucking people stuffed into one small area and traffic and nonsense and car theft and home invasions you look at all that and you're telling me that you need civil servants to go after a plant that makes people silly you're going to waste our fucking tax dollars arresting people for selling silly plants for selling plants that make food taste better make sex taste better make movies more awesome really you fuck heads it's the ultimate fuck you it's the ultimate power move It's the ultimate, this is not a free country move.

[2068] It really is.

[2069] And yet it's happening.

[2070] And yet it's happening.

[2071] So now what?

[2072] Well, now what is Occupy Wall Street is now what?

[2073] Now what is the bubble has burst.

[2074] So when Occupy starts having signs that say, give us back our weed, then they're going to try to roll on the movement and say that it's just another hippie movement.

[2075] All these kids want are their fucking drugs?

[2076] They're not going to be able to do that.

[2077] I think it's too late for that.

[2078] I think it's too late for that.

[2079] I think it's already gotten too big.

[2080] Oh, I don't think it's gotten big enough with the people who need to believe it's for them.

[2081] Well, it's going to get bigger.

[2082] Right, but it's going to be a bigger because they're going to put their ad dollars behind portraying the movement as a pro weed.

[2083] This is what they care about movement.

[2084] Like, isn't this an excellent move?

[2085] Yeah, that's going to marginalize people at this point in time.

[2086] There's 50 % of Americans in the most recent Gallup poll said that they want marijuana illegal.

[2087] That's higher than it's ever been before.

[2088] It's the first time ever that it's past the people that want it illegal.

[2089] But there might still be half the country, though, that is like, fuck you, that shit needs to be illegal.

[2090] That's what you hippies are about.

[2091] Forget it.

[2092] And it divides us up into teams again.

[2093] That's what I'm saying.

[2094] I don't think so.

[2095] It could.

[2096] I think that's going to be the boiling point, or rather a leverage point.

[2097] Just like they don't have a leader, there's not going to be one thing.

[2098] They're going to attack this thing for every fucking reason they can't.

[2099] What I'm saying is I don't think it's a good point.

[2100] The marijuana point is not a good point because most people think it should be legal.

[2101] And if you get good people arguing, half of the people believe it should be illegal.

[2102] So you just lose half of the country right there by making this about that one moral issue.

[2103] Then you pick out another issue.

[2104] Then you pick out another issue and another issue.

[2105] That's what I'm saying.

[2106] That's a good point.

[2107] It marginalizes the whole thing.

[2108] That's a good point.

[2109] But I think there's enough people that do believe at this point that other people are going to have to start listening.

[2110] Because there's enough people like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, intelligent Republicans that are really pragmatic, thoughtful people that can tell you why it should be legal.

[2111] But does he stand a snowball's chance in hell of being elected and affecting any change?

[2112] No, no, no. Well, affecting change for sure.

[2113] You know, Ron Paul is probably doing more impact socially than any other candidate besides the people that win.

[2114] I absolutely agree on that.

[2115] He got a partial audit of.

[2116] the Fed. But can you believe that they put in?

[2117] How about what they found out?

[2118] Trillions of dollars that were not accounted for.

[2119] More than our debt over the history of this country, they lent out without any debates, without any notification, they lent out more money than the history of the debt of our country to bankers, to bail them out.

[2120] They gave us one amount and it said, okay, here you go, here you go.

[2121] Bank, bail out the countries worldwide.

[2122] Just go.

[2123] Most people don't even understand.

[2124] And that was on a partial audit.

[2125] Yeah, partial order.

[2126] Most people don't even understand when you hear about the federal reserves.

[2127] It's not federal.

[2128] Yeah, it's a private company.

[2129] The line is, it's as federal as Federal Express.

[2130] It's a private company run for profit.

[2131] It's so hard to believe that our money is all being handled by foreign banks.

[2132] I mean, that is a, what a mind fuck that is.

[2133] Every dollar that you work your ass off to earn has debt already tacked onto it to somebody and you don't even know it.

[2134] How is that possible?

[2135] How is that possible that they can call it the federal bank when I mean what a what that is crazy that's like calling a company that breaks into your house movers right you know what I mean it's like how are you calling it that how is that legal you know how is it legal to call that the federal bank the federal reserve because I think they were they were reserved for the fed they were the reserve for the federation right I mean that was what they were they're like well when this when this country is in dire straits or there's a market spike or the next depression's going to happen we're going to be there to make it all right by printing money.

[2136] We're going to be the bank that lends money to the country.

[2137] What's amazing is when someone's running for president and they meet with the Bilderberg group, just out in the open.

[2138] They just go and meet with them.

[2139] And, you know, they have these fucking meetings and it's all online.

[2140] I want to chat with you for a few minutes.

[2141] Yeah, people are, Bill Clinton running for president and met with the Bilderberg.

[2142] Vote on that guy.

[2143] Meanwhile, they probably all meet with them, you know.

[2144] Clearly.

[2145] Figure out who's the best puppet.

[2146] Clearly.

[2147] Has that ever been more?

[2148] And that's so frustrating with Obama right now because, and I hope.

[2149] ask you that.

[2150] Has it ever been more evident?

[2151] So clear.

[2152] And I was duped.

[2153] I was fucking duped.

[2154] I was sold on the hope and change.

[2155] And the reason I was duped was not because I just, I wanted to believe in the posters, but because I looked at where the money came from.

[2156] And it came from guys like me. I don't know if it came from you or you, but it came from individuals.

[2157] It wasn't so much from the corporations.

[2158] There was some there.

[2159] I wonder if it even did.

[2160] I mean, who the fuck is auditing where the money comes from and who's...

[2161] There's a couple sites that look at donations and whatnot, but that's never fully...

[2162] No, I mean, there's always.

[2163] back channels.

[2164] And so for all I know, yes, the corporations could have totally put them in there.

[2165] But I know that I donated, and I know a lot of other people donated.

[2166] And so the sentiment amongst guys like myself who feel like sheep's now, the sentiment was, hey, the people are putting him here.

[2167] So he's got the chance for the hope and change.

[2168] He's going to fuck those banks over.

[2169] He's going to get us out of those wars, like he said.

[2170] He's going to do this, that the other.

[2171] And I thought because, well, my money went to put that there and so did millions of others of Americans.

[2172] He's going to feel beholding to us.

[2173] He just escalated everything.

[2174] Escalated everything.

[2175] Continued the same policies right away.

[2176] people are being spied on than ever.

[2177] More.

[2178] More civilities.

[2179] More rendition is happening.

[2180] Guantanamo's not fucking closed down.

[2181] Not at all.

[2182] Remember that?

[2183] We're going to close down Guantanamo Bay.

[2184] Listen, it's a logistics thing.

[2185] We've got an Excel spreadsheet.

[2186] It's going to take us like a year to figure it out, guys.

[2187] Yeah.

[2188] No, you're not closing that motherfucker down.

[2189] Yeah, meanwhile.

[2190] You're clearly not.

[2191] And then taking the guys who are responsible for defrauding the nation, these guys from J .P. Morgan, from Citibank, from Goldman Sachs, from Bank of America, and putting them in positions of power, in positions where they can control the money, you put those guys in power, the ones that literally fuck this country by selling faulty mortgages and betting against their own customers.

[2192] That's the crazy shit.

[2193] Like, betting against them, selling you shit in a box, putting a AAA rating on it and saying, dude, this is so secure, you're going to love this shit.

[2194] Oh yeah, we bet against it, and now it's going to fail.

[2195] And then you're going to give me the money to bail me out.

[2196] He put those motherfuckers in his, in his cabinet.

[2197] I'm happy, don't ask, don't tell, got repealed, but you got some fucking work to do if you want to get my vote.

[2198] That's a crumb.

[2199] That's what I mean.

[2200] But they've used God damn crumb.

[2201] I had a sign of...

[2202] You're allowed to be our hired killer, even if you're gay.

[2203] Congratulations, the world's perfect now.

[2204] Right, yeah, we really...

[2205] We need those numbers up.

[2206] We don't want it.

[2207] We don't need gay people killing people.

[2208] We don't need any new people killing people.

[2209] I was out at the rally with a sign that said, Wall Street wants to gay marry your illegal abortions.

[2210] And people were like, are you trolling this event?

[2211] What are you doing?

[2212] And I'm like, no, no, no. I'm saying that, like, someone might see this and get outraged.

[2213] And the statement that I'm trying to make, which was woefully missed.

[2214] I get it now.

[2215] But the statement I was trying to make was that the same anger you have for moral issues, You need to apply to the issues that are the fundamental problems right now, in my opinion.

[2216] It's not those little moral issues that are on this sign that you're being offended by right now.

[2217] It's these bankers that took the fucking money.

[2218] It's the government that's bought by the bankers.

[2219] It's the police force that's being paid by them to stifle your rights to protest.

[2220] It's all that shit.

[2221] If that foundation crumbles, we won't be able to have the conversations about the moral shit that you want to have a conversation on.

[2222] That just won't exist anymore.

[2223] I had to read Matt Taibi's articles about every single aspect of it.

[2224] I want him to lead this movement, even though they can have a leader.

[2225] 10 fucking times just to even understand all the bullshit that exists behind the scenes.

[2226] Derivatives and shorting and it's so hard to believe that there's an economy based on gambling that things are going to fail and that that is a hundred times larger than the actual economy.

[2227] Right.

[2228] It's all based on speculation.

[2229] Wrap your fucking head around that.

[2230] It's like I get to bet on a horse in the race.

[2231] I get to bet that that horse isn't going to finish the race and I get to put the horse in that race.

[2232] I know he's not going to finish.

[2233] And I'm going to tell you this is going to be the number one horse you're going to be super secure give that money with me there we go and horse dies on the fucking first lap and nobody there's not been since the savings and loans scandal which is a fraction the savings and loan scandal was a fraction of this this fraud movement Enron was a fraction of it in terms of detriment to the country and homes and our budgets fraction and not one person has been investigated or put away how gross is that what a weird weird world we live in, we are literally being suck dry by financial vampires.

[2234] It's like there's a vampire colony that's preying on our people, but the way they're doing it, instead of sucking blood out, they're sucking money out.

[2235] And they live in these opulent castles that you can go nowhere near, and there's armed guards and fucking fences, and they're sleeping in their coffins, and they're just sucking money out.

[2236] And they're doing it, and they're doing it legally somehow or another.

[2237] They're donating money to the cops.

[2238] 4 .6 million dollars to the cops so they can fucking keep them away from them while the protests are going on fuck man yeah it's insane have you ever seen the American Dream the animated cartoon no it explains the Fed in like a very simple beautiful way inside job was a great one for that now people are starting to get aware of that and inside jobs is phenomenal but again I had to watch it by the way it's a documentary yeah exactly but how amazing is it when that guy's questioning all these different professors that now what these guys they they become professors and then they get jobs working for the government so when they their professors, they say shit that turns out to not be fucking true at all.

[2239] They say shit that enables businesses to get away with creepy things because, well, we went to this financial expert and this is what his opinion is.

[2240] He's like, hey, everything's going to be cool.

[2241] And they're like, hey, he said everything's going to be cool.

[2242] He's got a PhD.

[2243] And then it turns out this cocksucker goes and starts working for the federal government afterwards or starts working for some big corporation afterwards and get some cushy -ass fucking job and's making X millions of dollars per year because of his decisions that he made that support these fucking vampire criminals.

[2244] It's the same revolving door with the SEC right now.

[2245] Like the guys are supposed to be regulating Wall Street and putting cases up to the government so they can actually enforce them.

[2246] They know that if they don't prosecute, if they don't do anything, there's going to be a revolving door.

[2247] When they're done with their two or three years, they can hop right on over and work for the guys that they were supposed to be investigating.

[2248] There's no laws against that.

[2249] What's going to happen?

[2250] So this is what we all see.

[2251] We all see Occupy Wall Street.

[2252] We all see people freaking out.

[2253] We all see how many people are like us all across the country?

[2254] What is this?

[2255] This is just a conversation between friends.

[2256] How many friends are sitting around smoking a joint, you know, drinking a couple of beers, having the same fucking conversation spitting at each other in a bar somewhere, going in these motherfuckers, what's going to happen?

[2257] Where's this go?

[2258] It's a great question.

[2259] Because it's more than ever before.

[2260] It's more than at any time in my life.

[2261] This is like, we are right now at like Vietnam protest levels.

[2262] We're like, we're at the state where you see that girl get maced in New York and you hear that that guy only got fucking 10 days of vacation time removed from, you're like, How is that guy allowed to be a fucking cop?

[2263] You went around and mace some chicks?

[2264] You should be, you should have to fucking fight Chris Cyborg.

[2265] That's what they should do.

[2266] You want to mace chicks?

[2267] How about you get in the rain your own?

[2268] Fight that Marine that says there's no honor in Pepper Sprang, three women in a third.

[2269] That Marine might gas out.

[2270] It's better let Cyborg.

[2271] Not against Officer Tony Ballone.

[2272] He'll get the job done.

[2273] You never know.

[2274] Tony Belloni might have a good guard.

[2275] He might get a little, keep that guy off.

[2276] His guard, it smells like Old Spice.

[2277] His guard aren't going to be that strong against that Marine.

[2278] One cop.

[2279] threw a sucker punch at one of the protesters and it was like the worst punch ever yeah you're like you should never be confident enough to punch a man with that whack -ass technique you have you don't know how to fight at all right yet you have the balls to throw a punch in a crowd against an unarmed protester you fuckhead which shows just how fucking peaceful despite the agent provocateurs it shows just how peaceful this movement truly is because that's the only way well it's also that you see these cops that are older cops that are the white shirt cops you know those are are the guys that are older cops that have been in the force a long time and they get jaded.

[2280] And they've seen the worst of humanity.

[2281] They get entitled to, you know, and they get cocky and they think that they can get away with some shit.

[2282] That's what enabled him to pull the trigger and punch.

[2283] But they've also dealt with scum day in and day out, like you said.

[2284] So they see somebody in their face screaming at them, which that should not be happening, but they see that.

[2285] And they go, okay, I'm now identifying you as scum right now.

[2286] You know, we've got to win the police over if this thing's going to work at all.

[2287] And that concerns me. That's an uphill battle.

[2288] Oh, I don't think so.

[2289] Like I said before, I think the cops are going to figure it out eventually that it's all a pile of horse shit once things start sliding.

[2290] I hope so.

[2291] Well, I hope you talked about people that are willing to commit atrocities, right?

[2292] Because they've been desensitized.

[2293] Like, they've got enough, they've got enough non -lethal arsenal right now to fuck up a lot of people and still feel like they're not being lethal.

[2294] They're just being okay.

[2295] They're just following orders.

[2296] Right.

[2297] You know, they're just worried about their paycheck as well.

[2298] You know, and that will be said.

[2299] But pepper spray is one thing.

[2300] They've got the sonic weapons.

[2301] They've got fucking rubber bullets.

[2302] Like, you look at revolts and revolution.

[2303] throughout history, they never had the weaponry that they have right now to use against their own people.

[2304] That's what scares the shit out of me. That they could flip on a ray gun and it will microwave your intestines.

[2305] You are so freaky, man. Google it.

[2306] Get this guy together with Alex Jones.

[2307] There's video footage from a news reporter taking a microwave beam weapon from like 10 years ago.

[2308] Google it right now.

[2309] And he stands in front of it and there's a click, click, click, click.

[2310] And the guy goes, oh God, instantly steps off the pad.

[2311] This was from years ago.

[2312] So it's basically like putting a rabbit in a microwave.

[2313] Yes, except it's directional.

[2314] It's pinpointed.

[2315] They could point it at you, or they could arc it out in a beam and say, here's the switch.

[2316] It just cooks people.

[2317] You instantly feel like your intestines are on fire is the way this news reporter who stood in front of it years ago.

[2318] Describe it.

[2319] We're going to go back to wearing chain mail.

[2320] You know, like we're going to have like armor suits.

[2321] Well, yeah, but you can't.

[2322] Because like if you put a can of soda in the microwave, it'll fucking explode, right?

[2323] But you can't wear masks.

[2324] You can't wear gas masks.

[2325] You can't have sticks anymore for your sign because that's a weapon.

[2326] Right.

[2327] You can't have any.

[2328] anything anymore.

[2329] So they're going to quell that shit right away.

[2330] You should really watch that video.

[2331] Nope, that's a weapon.

[2332] Oh my God.

[2333] You know, there's a thing that I watched on TV the other day where they were talking about sonic weapons and what they're able to do now with sound.

[2334] They can cause permanent deafness.

[2335] They can cause permanent blindness.

[2336] Have you seen blind you with sound?

[2337] Yeah.

[2338] You imagine that?

[2339] There's a video of that in use.

[2340] I think it's in Detroit.

[2341] It's either Detroit or Pittsburgh where they roll out.

[2342] There was a small union protest.

[2343] It's online.

[2344] And it literally announces, and I'm going to see.

[2345] say Detroit, I might be wrong on this, but I'm just going to fucking say it.

[2346] The truck rolls out and goes, attention city of Detroit from these giant booming speakers on a big black monolithic looking car with riot police in front of it bashing their shields with batons to create sound and the thing is like, attention, we are going to employ sonic weapons.

[2347] I think you're talking about the sonic weapons they used in Vancouver at the Olympics.

[2348] That's what it was.

[2349] I'm sorry.

[2350] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2351] Because I remember that.

[2352] I just looked it up.

[2353] But they were threatening to use things like that.

[2354] I believe it was at one of the union protests.

[2355] No, they used it.

[2356] Yeah.

[2357] Well, no, they used it.

[2358] use that at the Olympics, for sure.

[2359] And that was, again, years ago.

[2360] And this was, this was for a non -violent protest.

[2361] They're calling it an acoustical device.

[2362] Yeah, right.

[2363] Bitch, that ain't a harmonica.

[2364] It's a fucking sound weapon.

[2365] This is a high fidelity dispersal unit.

[2366] What?

[2367] We're going to make you deaf if you don't get the fuck out of this area.

[2368] Well, they blasted some Somali pirates with it on this thing that I was watching.

[2369] The U .S. government used it to keep off Somali pirates.

[2370] They were coming near this boat and they just turned this thing on.

[2371] It worked.

[2372] They just, wha, and they just fucking blows their brains out and they have to swim away.

[2373] They should have new shit where it's like, in the next 10 minutes, we're going to have this thing that's going to break your iPhone.

[2374] I personally like it the way the fucking Russians handle it.

[2375] The Russians go after Somali pilots.

[2376] They fucking pump missiles into their boats and they piled them up and they shoot them in the fucking head.

[2377] That's the way to do it.

[2378] You know, these sonic weapons, man. This is some lame shit.

[2379] But it's going to be turned on.

[2380] You need to send regular folks.

[2381] Yeah.

[2382] That's what concerns me. Yeah, well, that's a real concern, you know, when technology, as far as, you know, weapons and shit and riot stuff, when it becomes viable, you know, when it becomes something that people can make money developing, you know, and these weapons companies, they're going to start turning it on people.

[2383] Well, why else would you build them and buy them?

[2384] I mean, that's the last, and dude, here's what's going to happen, right?

[2385] The military industrial complex.

[2386] You've got to think that if there's money in making war, there's also money in keeping peace, there's also money in battling against insurgents right here in America.

[2387] I mean, that's what people are going to be called.

[2388] Right.

[2389] The true version of insurgency.

[2390] I mean, you know, the people that are rallying up against the, you know, the oppressive force.

[2391] Right.

[2392] And what they're going to see is, what worries about me, worries me about this, is that the imagery, like, when they shoot people in protests, right, in the Arab Spring, and you see people just getting fucking shot, you go, holy shit, man, that's fucked up.

[2393] We, you know, got to intervene, and you get world support, you get to other people.

[2394] But if they use sonic weapons, and people are angry in protesting finally, which it may have to get to, I sure fucking hope it doesn't.

[2395] But even if they have an agent provocateur.

[2396] spark a crowd, they're going to say, listen, these guys got out of hand, this protest is violent and angry, and look, we didn't even kill them, we just microwave their insides for a little bit.

[2397] They won't say that.

[2398] They'll say we used a sonic weapon, and so people at home will be like, well, they're being very humane to those violent people, so this isn't nearly as jarring.

[2399] If they were shooting them, then I get up.

[2400] I heard only 10 people went deaf.

[2401] It was only 10, and they wouldn't listen.

[2402] Right.

[2403] They should, I had this argument with my parents, and they're like, well, if the police told you to get out, you're not supposed to be there.

[2404] They told you to leave.

[2405] I couldn't explain the concept of protesting to my parents.

[2406] It gets to a certain point.

[2407] It gets to a boiling point where what happens because it's growing.

[2408] Right now they're saying that every day at Occupy Wall Street in New York it's a bigger and bigger crowd.

[2409] Every day, people are coming from all over the world to participate in it.

[2410] My friend Jamie Kielstein, he's doing, they're in fucking Melbourne, Australia.

[2411] They're doing Occupy Melbourne.

[2412] You know, and it's like 10 people, fucking hippies.

[2413] But they're out there.

[2414] Ten hippies in Australia, might.

[2415] But they're out there.

[2416] Fucking bankers, mate.

[2417] Yeah, they're out there.

[2418] But, I mean, it's giant fucking gantic.

[2419] It's beyond gigantic.

[2420] So what does it do?

[2421] What is, when you look at it, do you extrapolate?

[2422] Well, constantly.

[2423] You know, there's a million ways this thing can go, which is why I'm so fascinated by it.

[2424] I mean, we are living in a chapter of a future history book or we're living at the end of our society.

[2425] I mean, we really don't know.

[2426] Maybe both.

[2427] Maybe both, yeah.

[2428] Maybe this is New World Order shit.

[2429] Maybe this is when the crowd gets completely beat down and that's it.

[2430] There's nothing you can do.

[2431] We just be slaves to the system.

[2432] Did you see Ron Paul at the Republican debate?

[2433] Yeah.

[2434] Ron Paul had this one brilliant thing that he said that everybody says that really pays attention to human history.

[2435] He said this is exactly how every single empire has fallen.

[2436] They try to spread themselves out too thin and eventually it all comes crumbling down.

[2437] It's amazing.

[2438] We have a blueprint.

[2439] We've seen this.

[2440] We have the knowledge to connect all the dots as to what's happening.

[2441] right now.

[2442] And yet we're just repeating history, but with slightly different tools and in slightly different volumes, you know, it's been ratcheted up.

[2443] And we've survived a lot of that history, but who knows what atrocities could lie around the corner.

[2444] But I've even looking at, like, I'm doing all right.

[2445] I got a good job.

[2446] I got great friends.

[2447] Like, I'm doing great.

[2448] And I see, I'm really concerned for the director of this country, which is why I'm trying to educate myself and be a little more outspoken about it.

[2449] But I'm really concerned to the point where I've had the discussion of, all right, well, where's our exit strategy?

[2450] What is it right now?

[2451] if the shit really hits the fan tomorrow and they declare martial law on the streets, lock down, you know, the riot police are coming in or the Marines going to come in and fight?

[2452] Am I going to wake up tomorrow morning?

[2453] My dollar's worth nothing and there's a war zone outside my window.

[2454] I mean, we're potentially two to three years away from that, maybe more.

[2455] Who knows what's going to escalate?

[2456] Maybe less.

[2457] It could happen tomorrow.

[2458] And the notion that it could happen, not that I think it will, but the notion that it could, I never thought I would feel that in my lifetime in this country.

[2459] And I feel it right now.

[2460] And I've been researching, do I go to Finland, Switzerland?

[2461] I mean, Japan was my exit strategy for a little while there.

[2462] Love Japan, but that country's hit some fucking hard times right now.

[2463] You wouldn't go to Canada?

[2464] I would go right to Vancouver.

[2465] Vancouver's the shit.

[2466] I've never been to Vancouver, maybe I've got to go.

[2467] Is it?

[2468] You ever done shows?

[2469] Yeah, but yeah, you know, maybe with me. Yeah, dude, Vancouver, first of all.

[2470] Well, there'd be a mass, exodus.

[2471] Great comedy scene, great weed, super nice people, and really a really diverse community.

[2472] Why aren't that there now?

[2473] Why should have to be there now?

[2474] Dude, I almost moved there in 1984.

[2475] When Bush won again in, not in 84, rather, 2004, when Bush won again in 2004, I just sat back, and especially because I was paying attention to the whole dibold voting thing.

[2476] And, you know, the whole, I was like, this is ridiculous.

[2477] I watched the hacking democracy documentary, and I'm like, these guys, they stole it.

[2478] This is not a, this is not real anymore.

[2479] You got a programmer testifying under oath that he wrote code that allowed him to rig an election.

[2480] And he showed how he can be done and then did it.

[2481] Yeah.

[2482] And showed how there's a third.

[2483] party option in the software that allows a third party other than the voter other than the person reading the vote and a second person another person comes in and inserts data and changes the data and they showed how it can be done and this is I mean this is they had been massive contributors to the Republican Party the idea that some company can contribute to the Republican Party and then make a machine that decides whether Republicans or Democrats win elections is madness absolute fucking madness called hedging your bets I got furious man there was there was a period of time over a couple of weeks I'm a big fan of Canada.

[2484] I love going up there.

[2485] And I don't like the cold, though.

[2486] And I was like, man, Montreal would be the shit, but the winters are brutal.

[2487] Fuck, where else could I live?

[2488] Right.

[2489] You know, maybe.

[2490] So you have that thought.

[2491] Oh, yeah, man. I still do.

[2492] I still go back and forth.

[2493] I have my friend Bobby lives up.

[2494] So what's going to be the pin drop?

[2495] Do you, can you imagine?

[2496] What's the catalyst?

[2497] As I get older, it might just as I get older.

[2498] I just decide enough is enough of this nonsense.

[2499] You don't have to live in this country.

[2500] You know, this is a, we are eventually becoming a global society.

[2501] The connectivity that we all enjoy right now because of the internet lets people realize that communities, like my message board, I have a massive message board.

[2502] And this community is a massive message board of really cool people from everywhere, man. I have people from fucking Saudi Arabia.

[2503] I have people from foreign countries.

[2504] I have Asian countries.

[2505] I have people from Canada.

[2506] A lot of fucking people from Canada.

[2507] People from Switzerland and Sweden all over the fucking world.

[2508] And it leads me to believe that this idea that a fucking line in the dirt can dictate where you're from.

[2509] No, no, no, no. It should be like -minded people.

[2510] It should be cool people, like -minded people.

[2511] find them.

[2512] And if you find a spot, oh, it's across the dirt line, it's no good anymore.

[2513] Yeah, but it's awesome, whether it's fucking Costa Rica or where the fuck it is.

[2514] If you find a place that you think that you could live a safer, healthier, friendlier life than what you're here in the center of the shitstorm.

[2515] You know, look, I love the idea of America.

[2516] I love the idea of it all.

[2517] I love the idea that, you know, we save the world from the Russians and we save the world from the Nazis and that we're, you know, the noblest and the most creative.

[2518] I love the idea, but I don't see it in practice.

[2519] And it scares me. You've never been to a fucking...

[2520] It's not a game.

[2521] It scares me to think that I'm a roob, you know, that I'm locked into this stupid fucking system.

[2522] And if it gets any worse, man, I don't know what to do.

[2523] But that's what I'm saying, like, what is the...

[2524] What is the catalyst?

[2525] You know, and that's what I've been thinking, because, you know, people had chances to get out of countries that became locked down and war started.

[2526] And then it was like, yeah, you ain't going anywhere.

[2527] They had signs.

[2528] They had...

[2529] They had news reports coming out.

[2530] They had all that shit.

[2531] They didn't have the internet, though.

[2532] They didn't have the internet.

[2533] It was a different world.

[2534] The world that we're living in is a very strange world.

[2535] And I don't know what happens when it all falls apart.

[2536] I don't know.

[2537] Is someone going to try to reclaim power?

[2538] I mean, is there going to be an actual physical war?

[2539] Are they going to be tanks in the streets?

[2540] And who are those soldiers?

[2541] Those soldiers are going to actually go after their brothers and sisters and cousins and neighbors?

[2542] Are they going to do that?

[2543] Hopefully not.

[2544] How can they?

[2545] How can they?

[2546] Is that possible?

[2547] Well, I mean, they could be sold a message that it's not their brothers and sisters and neighbors, that it's insurgents, that they're terrorists.

[2548] And that would be the agent provocateur.

[2549] So we need a certain population of sociopaths to make this whole fucking point work for the man. We're going to become Mexicans.

[2550] We're going to be going north of Canada.

[2551] You're saying that the agent provocateurs are sociopaths?

[2552] Yeah, we will be the Canadian Mexicans, right?

[2553] Exactly.

[2554] Mexican versions of Canada.

[2555] Yeah, I'd rather live in a cold climate.

[2556] I might even live in Alaska.

[2557] I might even live in Alaska better than this.

[2558] Joe, have you seen this fish with a transparent head?

[2559] Have you ever seen this photo or videos?

[2560] Yeah, it's like a real deep underwater fish.

[2561] Yeah, it's a fish, and they have it on YouTube, or there's photos that's on from National Geographic, but it's actual fish that you can just see right into its brain, and, like, you could see its organs.

[2562] Yeah, do you know the name of it?

[2563] I think they call it a large Pacific, B -A -R -R -E -L -E -Y -E -B -A -R -I.

[2564] This is a video from a few years ago?

[2565] Um, this was like 2009.

[2566] I just saw it the other day.

[2567] It looks like the fish from Sega Seaman for the Dreamcast.

[2568] Yes, exactly.

[2569] Like that fish.

[2570] It's a fucking alien world, that ocean, man. I always see the real, the real deep water shit, like the planet Earth, deep water addition, anything on deep water, I see the life that exists on this planet, and it makes me realize how uncreative human beings are at conceiving what alien life forms could be.

[2571] Oh, yeah.

[2572] You know what I mean?

[2573] It's like, well, this fish glows in the dark.

[2574] Yeah, you probably didn't think, you know, an alien could do that.

[2575] This fish only exists in the infrared spectrum, you know, whatever.

[2576] How the fuck did an angler fish develop?

[2577] How the fuck did that fish develop that has a fishing rod?

[2578] It has a fish and rod and a lure.

[2579] It dangles a little lure, and as the thing comes close, their fucking giant maw opens up and sucks the fishing.

[2580] It's amazing.

[2581] Because it was created by some alien point and clicks.

[2582] You know what I mean?

[2583] We are just their simulator.

[2584] And he's like, let's try this, a fish with a fucking lure on his head and see what that goes.

[2585] There's this guy who's a chess master, and he's a brilliant guy who plays blindfolded chess against like multiple opponents, this Australian guy.

[2586] And he's also a creationist.

[2587] It's a really a fascinating thing to see because he's obviously a super, super brilliant guy.

[2588] And somebody posted this interview with this guy where he was talking about how there's what science doesn't account for, what evolution doesn't account for, how does a carbon molecule become a person?

[2589] Right.

[2590] And their idea, it's like this idea of the soul and all these different, the complexity is too hard for them to grasp so it must be magic.

[2591] It gets to some weird...

[2592] In due time, science will help us perceive what we have to label as magic right now and imperceivable.

[2593] Maybe.

[2594] Maybe.

[2595] Maybe not.

[2596] I mean, maybe that's the question we're not supposed to ever answer.

[2597] Well, maybe we'll get to a certain point where we realize, oh, no, there is some sort of an inner code that's inescapable that permeates the entire universe.

[2598] You know, whatever it's string theory or whatever the fuck it is, they find some frequency at the center of all that, you know, accepts love and rejects negativity.

[2599] Like the Hitler video and that contact signal.

[2600] Yes.

[2601] no no no it'd be different than that yeah they heard the signal and they're like and then the blind dude I hear video and then they put it up to a monitor and it was Hitler and then it's like there's more this is interlaced information and then they had the blueprints on how to build the travel thing it's exactly like that that was a fascinating movie wasn't the book was way better wasn't I never read the book was way was way better Carl Sagan was a bad motherfucker by the way massive pothead for those of you hate weed Carl Sagan huge pothead Carl Sagan smoked weed every fucking day It is just a placebo.

[2602] You see Dr. Drew was talking about you on the Conan O 'Brien show, which is cool, by the way, that not only has the California Association backed up medical marijuana, but Dr. Drew was on Conan being asked, do you back up medical marijuana?

[2603] And he says, well, I get a lot of slack from Joe Rogan about this.

[2604] The reason why is because he started talking on his crazy CNN show about how marijuana is much strong.

[2605] longer than it was back in the day and how there's dangerous withdrawal symptoms.

[2606] And I'm like, come on, man. Did he clarify that it might be purely psychological?

[2607] This is what I've always said.

[2608] You know, I don't know how your body works, but I'm pretty sure that if weed got you, it's because weed got there first.

[2609] And if it wasn't weed that you got addicted to, it could have been cheese burgers or scratch tickets or internet porn.

[2610] Whatever plugs that void for you.

[2611] Yeah.

[2612] And maybe for some people, there's people that have extreme physical, issues with all sorts of altered states of consciousness.

[2613] There's people that literally must drink coffee all day long.

[2614] They must smoke cigarettes all day long.

[2615] They are constantly trying to change whatever state.

[2616] And it could be an imbalance.

[2617] It could be some sort of an issue that they have.

[2618] I have witnessed it many times with alcohol.

[2619] I know certain people with drugs.

[2620] You know, I was listening to Ron Bennington.

[2621] I was listening to Ron and Fez.

[2622] And Ron is a guy who's in the program.

[2623] And he apparently had appendix.

[2624] And they wanted to give him pain.

[2625] pills.

[2626] And he was terrified.

[2627] And he's pretty sure he's got his addictions under control, but he didn't want to take the chance.

[2628] And one of the reasons why is because he had a friend and this friend, I believe he said, had been sober for, you know, 10 fucking years, had been working as a counselor in a place helping people stay sober, stayed up in the Poconos so that he didn't have to go back around the same neighborhood and be around the same people.

[2629] He was working it as hard as you could.

[2630] He's there for 10 years.

[2631] Gets it in some sort of an accident, has a back problem, whatever.

[2632] They put him on some pills.

[2633] Boom, he's a junkie again.

[2634] There's some people, man. There's some people, and there's no doubt about it.

[2635] And I would never discount that.

[2636] I would never discount that possibility.

[2637] But what they discount, and this is my issue with all these Dr. Drew types, is that they always have this sort of a...

[2638] And I love Dr. True, by the way.

[2639] He's a really good guy.

[2640] He's a great guy.

[2641] I really love him as a person.

[2642] There's nothing wrong with that guy.

[2643] He gets silly sometimes.

[2644] But they discount the positive benefits of it, and they make it as if it's a goof.

[2645] They make it as it like, they go like, well, listen, I'm not going to stop you from swung and paw.

[2646] If you want to smoke pot, forget about all the medical uses because the medical uses are many and they're very varied and they're very real.

[2647] The actual benefits of it for the human race are substantial.

[2648] They're huge.

[2649] And they're not something you should just dismiss and diminish because popular opinion is laced with the propaganda from 19 -fucking 30s and it has just entwined itself into our culture to the point where people believe all sorts of bullshit and nonsense about what is really an amazing beneficial plant.

[2650] You know, and maybe you can't handle it, maybe you don't like it, but to tell me that this thing, this turbocharger for the imagination, this thing that makes you more sensitive, makes you more loving, it makes you more friendly, it makes food taste better, makes sex takes better, it doesn't harm you in any way.

[2651] You wake up in the morning, you fucking feel great, you don't feel hungover.

[2652] You're telling me that this thing that I take in that does this is bad.

[2653] I'm telling you it could fix the fucking world.

[2654] I'm telling you it changes consciousness.

[2655] I'm telling you it's a fucking tool, man. It's a tool like a hammer or a fucking jackhammer or a laser beam.

[2656] It's anything else.

[2657] Do you think he fundamentally disagrees with you?

[2658] No, no, no. He needs, what the world needs is a shaman.

[2659] They need shaman.

[2660] They need people who have experienced altered states of consciousness and not only know how to navigate them can talk other people through them and do it on a professional level.

[2661] What they've done for thousands and thousands of years in the rainforest, we need to apply not just with marijuana, but all the different tools of consciousness, including alcohol.

[2662] They should have places where that teach you how to drink alcohol i enjoy alcohol i like it i like having a shot or two with my friends it makes me loose it makes me silly i get i start enjoying things a little bit more i want to dance i don't think it's bad but i think there would be benefit so many fucking people if when you're 19 or 20 they took you to a fucking class where some smart interesting person taught you about drinking and gave you some fucking things to think about here's what you need to think about why don't you write down how about this you're you're a new drinker write down right down on your iPhone every time you have a drink.

[2663] Is that hard?

[2664] Send yourself a text message.

[2665] Send a friend a text message every time you have a drink.

[2666] And he has to send you a text message every time he has a drink.

[2667] So that you get like six, seven drinks in from this guy, you can call him up and go, hey, bro, you should stop drinking.

[2668] You, you're texting me 45 minutes ago and you've had nine drinks.

[2669] What the fuck are you doing?

[2670] Who's watching you?

[2671] Who's looking out for you?

[2672] Who's driving you home?

[2673] You know, that's not a bad idea.

[2674] Yeah, you're teaching social responsibility with what's available.

[2675] Teach, it's social responsibility, but it's also shamanism.

[2676] I got it.

[2677] Do you think Dr. Drew disagrees with that?

[2678] No, no, no, no, he doesn't.

[2679] We actually had a podcast yesterday that we went through all the entire stuff that Dr. Drew has said about marijuana all in a row, and we ended up with what he said on Conan.

[2680] And he's actually saying that one of the biggest things right now is that there's people that get addicted to marijuana.

[2681] Marijuana is addictive to people.

[2682] And then if you look at - physically, though, dude.

[2683] It's addictive like jerking off's addictive.

[2684] Right.

[2685] But one of the biggest things right now that's filling a hospital.

[2686] room or hospitals and stuff like that is people, you know, freaking out on marijuana and stuff like that.

[2687] What?

[2688] Not one of the biggest things.

[2689] Filling hospital rooms.

[2690] People having panic attacks and going to hospitals is big.

[2691] But, but it's big.

[2692] But Ryan's just saying that because that happened to him.

[2693] He got so high, he had to pull over to the side of the road and call an ambulance.

[2694] Well, that's not true.

[2695] That's 100 % not true.

[2696] Well, actually it wasn't high at all when it happened, but here's the thing.

[2697] Drew has to say this could happen.

[2698] He has to, as a physician says, that's what he's saying that's one of his biggest things that he treats his medical marijuana dixon so what he was saying is that it is addictive because people do get addictive because he has to deal with it all the time now he's saying he's for medical marijuana he says that especially now that after this this thing but that but to Joe's point it is addictive to your point though if there was a shaman whether it's yourself or Dr. Drew or the fucking internet that said hey this can be addictive here's what happens instead of it's either going to be refurb madness or it's the greatest thing ever I mean you need to balanced approach.

[2699] I need to educate people.

[2700] I think we all know somebody that spends over $40 a day on marijuana.

[2701] Probably, yeah.

[2702] I know a few people that fucking just go to the store and just fucking spend a shitload of money every single day and smokes that money.

[2703] This is the current study.

[2704] This current study believe they believe that 10 % of recreational users will develop problem severe enough to impair their work and relationships.

[2705] Very simple.

[2706] Take the money that they would make from taxes from marijuana if it was legal.

[2707] I've always said, if you want to have marijuana legal, just say, how about this?

[2708] You want to give people an incentive, tax it higher than everything else.

[2709] Give it a tax like you get to cigarettes or alcohol.

[2710] Give it a tax and then take a portion of that and use it for treatment centers for these 10 % that have wacky fucking genes or whatever it is.

[2711] But for most of us, it's not physically addictive.

[2712] But a lot of people like to escape, man. And they like to escape with video games.

[2713] And if they don't escape with video games, they like to escape with video games.

[2714] with weed.

[2715] I've been addicted to things before that aren't addictive, like video games.

[2716] I've been addicted to playing pool.

[2717] I've been addicted to working out.

[2718] I've been addicted to several things in my life that were impulses.

[2719] Masturbation.

[2720] I've had moments in my life, especially I was a young man. You know, you'd masturbate, like, have you ever done that?

[2721] Like, masturbate?

[2722] You're not even horny.

[2723] Meanwhile, you're beating off, like, for the third or fourth time in the day.

[2724] You're like, what the fuck is wrong with me?

[2725] There's a difference, I think, between when you have a fucked up life and you don't have discipline and you don't have like the ability to be objective about your body, the ability to be objective about your mind, how much organization have you done?

[2726] Do you do meditation?

[2727] Do you do any self -reflecting time where you sit down and look at your whole life as a whole?

[2728] Well, if you don't, then sometimes you get washed up in some crazy wave of momentum and then you become obsessive with things, at least me. I find myself my most vulnerable when the rest of my life is out of order and chaotic when the rest of my life is like a bunch of shit that I'm not dealing with and fucking bills I'm not paying and all that that's when I'll find myself beaten off three times a day that's when I find myself can't walk away from the computer because I want to fucking play video games online all hours in the day.

[2729] Do you smoke more during those periods though or no?

[2730] I don't do any of that anymore and all this was back before I even smoked weed.

[2731] You don't even smoke weed anymore.

[2732] Yeah, I stopped.

[2733] Stop so I can have guns.

[2734] Keep those guns.

[2735] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2736] Yeah, I want to keep my guns.

[2737] I made a decision.

[2738] cunt cunt fucking government you cunt when I actually got pulled over I love the good ones don't get me wrong I love the good cots Joe when I got I love the good cops When I pulled over That wasn't actually weed That was caffeine That was from energy drinks From from that was the gay Climing out of every pore in your body Like the center was a nuclear reactor And it was melting down And the gay was just blasting out of all your skin pores And you were twitching and shaking And you had to call the cops How many energy drinks do you have?

[2739] I had one of those big mountain dew.

[2740] I don't even think they make them anymore.

[2741] It's humongous mountain dew super energy drinks.

[2742] You had a bucket of energy drink with a straw in it.

[2743] And I hadn't eaten all day.

[2744] My heart started double jumping.

[2745] We had a girl at our E3 booth.

[2746] We had these booth models.

[2747] We were sponsored by it.

[2748] First of all, fuck yeah.

[2749] Continue.

[2750] No, and they were all smoking hot.

[2751] This is not a unattractive, not even a mildly attractive girl there.

[2752] No. E3 is ridiculous.

[2753] And there are some really hot nerd chicks there that really are into that shit.

[2754] That's my favorite.

[2755] smoking hot.

[2756] What is hotter than a hot chick with a hot body and glasses?

[2757] I don't know what it is, man. That's that Sarah Payland thing.

[2758] You got a glasses girl?

[2759] I love her.

[2760] Yeah.

[2761] She's got him like vision impairment.

[2762] She was like, no, she was a game stop manager.

[2763] Ooh.

[2764] Like that level of nerdery.

[2765] And plays Professor Layton and cosplays.

[2766] My girlfriend has a huge crush in this girl.

[2767] Yeah.

[2768] There you go.

[2769] Got to get him to work out.

[2770] This is very important.

[2771] Some girls, they're great when they're like 21, 22, 23, and then 24.

[2772] It starts like becoming gelatinous and gives out.

[2773] That's so sad.

[2774] You can keep it going.

[2775] That's why, like, 19 is that's it.

[2776] That's the cutoff point.

[2777] We need to find out what the fuck Hallie Berry's doing, because that bitch is 45, and she's hot as shit.

[2778] Do you think there's a lot of lasers and surgery and scissors?

[2779] I think it's a lot of health and exercise.

[2780] But she's also crazy.

[2781] I don't know.

[2782] I haven't seen her in person.

[2783] We've seen Demi Moore lately.

[2784] No. She showed a picture.

[2785] They showed a picture of her yesterday where she looks like a skeleton.

[2786] and she just looks like whatever magic she was using for the last 20 years and just wore off.

[2787] They finally caught up.

[2788] this is going to take more mana but fuck it I'm going to cast this sexy spell run run run to the castle her arms look like Charlie Sheen's penis now if you look at her you can't blame Ashton Critchard Ashton ran you can't blame Ashton for going out and getting some on the side You can't do you think I heard that they had an open relationship though Like I heard that was totally loud but he just picked women that were being vocal about it And it was like I can't do this anymore now well let me see how I can phrase this No I have a friend and this friend may or may not have worked on the movie G .I. Jane.

[2789] And, you know, that movie had Demi Moore in it.

[2790] This friend who may or may not have worked on this may or may not have had Demi Moore grab his cock one night.

[2791] Ted Danson?

[2792] No. A good try.

[2793] So, if that was possible, if that was real, yes, I think that might very well.

[2794] It was a two -way street.

[2795] I think it was probably...

[2796] Were they together in GI -J?

[2797] No, no, no, but Bruce Willis.

[2798] That's probably how...

[2799] There's a lot of people that roll that way.

[2800] They just roll that way, especially in the acting community.

[2801] People think that, oh, they're no different than us.

[2802] Many of them, no. But many of them, they've grown up in these weird fucking showbiz, super self -indulgent circles, and you know, many of them just, you know, they're kind of they do drugs and they embrace different lifestyles and, you know, I, p. Have you ever done the open relationship thing or the swinger thing or anything that?

[2803] So you tried it?

[2804] No, I've never tried it.

[2805] I mean, obviously, I've been in situations where I didn't want to be settled down.

[2806] I mean, you know, and I said, look, I don't want to be in a relationship.

[2807] I don't want to, but I've never been in like, you know, you have a - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2808] We have a buddy, Ari Shafir, who was in an open marriage, and his wife would go on dates and then come home and talk about how guys fucked her and stuff.

[2809] He should really do material on that.

[2810] Why doesn't he do material?

[2811] Yeah, he's weird about that, right?

[2812] Yeah, I don't think.

[2813] Maybe he doesn't want the world, you know.

[2814] Oops!

[2815] Well, there's that.

[2816] We're talking about Ted Danson.

[2817] Yeah.

[2818] Not Ari Shafir.

[2819] That guy who looks like Ari Shafir.

[2820] Was he getting off to it?

[2821] Like that was, they were the thing or no?

[2822] It eventually didn't work.

[2823] I don't know, man. You know, you'd have to ask him about that.

[2824] I don't want to say, I already said too much as it is.

[2825] I think he said it before.

[2826] Yeah, yeah, I said it before.

[2827] I wouldn't have said it if you hadn't said it.

[2828] But he's crazy.

[2829] Ari's crazy.

[2830] You know, Ari is a wild motherfuckerucker, though.

[2831] You know, Ari will, you know.

[2832] What makes you say it's too hard, though, just at a curiosity.

[2833] Well, I think, for men, for men, I think it's, look, some people believe that that's how human beings existed a long time ago, that that's the mushroom orgies, you know, the idea of, you know, these orgiastic groups of, you know, free sex monkeys that existed millions of years ago.

[2834] You know, McKenna had that whole thing that he believed that, you know, and it really, the idea behind it is that at one point in time, mushrooms were a huge part of human diets and they were part of all these rituals and people would get together and eat.

[2835] them and they would have these orgies and have all these parties and have a good time and that slowly but surely the climate change the mushrooms became more and more rare and they were hoarded by the elites and then they were also kept from other people and then the sort of this orgiastic communal society that we had this matriarchal society by the way that worship the mother and worship the mother earth and you know which mushrooms sort of tend to like put you in tune with that frequency that all dissolved as climate change and he actually documents it down to them taking mushrooms and putting them in honey and that the honey became psychoactive as well because honey when it ferments becomes mead and then you have a completely polar opposite society of an alcohol -based society which is you know inflates the ego right diminishes objectivity and self -awareness or diminishes the the feelings of you know of connectivity it's a what was that dude oh that was the 10 minute warning for them the shot clock was it you know a 10 minute warning yeah all right well let's fucking wrap this bitch up bring this motherfucker home we We've covered just about everything.

[2836] Kevin Pereira.

[2837] Once again, you are a bad motherfucker.

[2838] Well, thank you, sir.

[2839] Every time you come on this podcast, you do not disappoint.

[2840] Appreciate it.

[2841] For those who want to follow this brilliant man on Twitter, it's K -P -E -R -E -I -R -A.

[2842] Don't you fucking laugh when I call you Brilliant.

[2843] And you're brilliant.

[2844] You're brilliant.

[2845] I appreciate that.

[2846] Accept it.

[2847] Suck it.

[2848] Take it inside you.

[2849] Tonight I'm pounding that into a flashlight.

[2850] Dude, I appreciate it.

[2851] I'll give you a new one.

[2852] A freshie.

[2853] I want to try this alpha dog.

[2854] Alpha.

[2855] What is it the...

[2856] Alpha Brain.

[2857] Because I will absolutely report back.

[2858] Yeah, I'll give you a big bottle.

[2859] Love it.

[2860] If folks at home, you want to try it.

[2861] First of all, if you don't want to try it, don't.

[2862] If you want the effects, you want to pay for it, stop qualifying with the internet.

[2863] Go online and find the ingredients.

[2864] I welcome you to copy the ingredients.

[2865] Go ahead.

[2866] Copy it.

[2867] Do it to all yourself.

[2868] But if you want a one -stop shop, you want to do it all yourself, I enjoy it.

[2869] It's called AlphaBrain.

[2870] And if you go to on it .com, O -N -N -I -T -com.

[2871] And when you're ordering, you entering the code name Rogan, you will save 10%.

[2872] And let me know if you love it or hate it.

[2873] Hull at me on Twitter, bitches!

[2874] I've been remembering my dreams like crazy, like super detail.

[2875] I remember the last three nights of my dreams.

[2876] I take it on on purpose.

[2877] Yeah, me too.

[2878] I take them right before I go to bed on purpose.

[2879] Me too.

[2880] But usually I take them in the morning.

[2881] Anyway, what the fuck ever?

[2882] Thank you to the fleshlight.

[2883] If you go to Joe Rogan.

[2884] Click on the link for the fleshlight.

[2885] Entering the code name Rogan.

[2886] You will get 15 % off the number one.

[2887] So, I'm home, man. This Friday.

[2888] is it sold out yet not sold out yet it will we haven't even really talked about it we're doing a show at the ice house it's a tiny ass room I got a tweet from some dude who's flying in from 1500 miles away are you serious yeah yeah yeah we have two shows 8 and 10 too yeah it's a it's a great room it's a it's a tiny 85 seat room and the fucking show is outstanding it's me Brendan Walsh little Esther out magical Josh McDermott Josh McDermen who's hilarious it's a great great show and it's we're going to do a lot of these and we're going to set up a laptop there and we're also going to do a podcast live from the ice house so we'll see you bitches on friday um this is probably the last podcast for the week but we might do another one later in the week because that's how i roll i roll sporadically i appreciate all of the love on the twitter on message board on a line on the ultimate fighting what oh can i was wondering if i could bring up something i just opened up real quick uh we we have a podcast named Death Squad and we used to only accept donations that's their only way to survive now we just open up a new website called dug .com not dig but Doug D -U -G -G -E -D and what that does is open this up Amazon and if you ever want to buy anything from Amazon anything you buy from that illegal in California just brought it back Amazon just brought it back for me so really what do you mean so they returned they overturned the law they they did something yes they were they Amazon had this associates account and they pretty much got rid of it they they when did it come back it just came back uh two weeks ago.

[2889] Really?

[2890] I didn't hear about this.

[2891] I didn't hear.

[2892] That made me angry.

[2893] Just like I get angry about internet gambling.

[2894] That's another, I don't want to get angry.

[2895] This is the end of the fucking show.

[2896] Positive.

[2897] Positive, ladies and gentlemen, Doug .com.

[2898] D -U -G -G -G -E -D.

[2899] Doug .com.

[2900] All right, thanks to everyone online.

[2901] We love all you bitches.

[2902] Keep it together.

[2903] We're all in this motherfucker together, and shit's getting crazy.

[2904] It's all going to change.

[2905] But keep your frequency positive.

[2906] Work hard.

[2907] Stay honest.

[2908] May the force be with you.

[2909] You know,