#260 - Greg Fitzsimmons

[0] podcast, check it out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] And then that happens.

[4] This is what happens every podcast.

[5] You have these fucking awesome conversations.

[6] You get rolling, and then we play that music, and all of a sudden we got to start from scratch again.

[7] And we forget what we were just talking about, that we were like saving for the podcast.

[8] What were we talking about?

[9] We have a very inefficient way of starting the show, and we've never analyzed it until this moment.

[10] I've always thought the best like talk show Like tonight show thing would be As soon as the guests walk in the stage door Backstage they should just be getting filmed And then play pieces of that Yeah You know because who gives a shit Once they sit down and they tee it up It's like I can tell you the end of George Clooney's story Yeah His mom made cookies And then she got a hit on Bull Who gives a fuck I agree You just the fuck about your little pre -packaged, dry -ass story that you've done on four other talk.

[11] You know how many talk shows now?

[12] You see guys promoting a film.

[13] There's this website that tells you all the late night shows guests for the next two weeks.

[14] And you'll see like Paul Rudd go fucking Daily Show, Tonight Show, Laderman, Conan, you know, and then start working your way down until you're on like Jimmy, what's the guy who does the late, late NBC show?

[15] Jimmy Fallon?

[16] No, no, no, no. No, not Jimmy Fallon.

[17] music, who's on MTV, not Jimmy.

[18] Jimmy Store.

[19] Carson Daly is still on television for 10 years.

[20] I like his taste.

[21] I find a lot of weird, creepy bands and movies from that guy, just because he's kind of like cutting -edge hipster.

[22] There's a reason why he was on MTV, our same generation, now he's older, so he does give some cool taste of music once in a while.

[23] So you watch?

[24] When I catch it, I always, I'm interested, because he's, he does pick little random cards out of the blue that maybe you haven't heard of like music wise at least or movie wise.

[25] I don't know.

[26] I don't think he's bad.

[27] I'd take him over Leno any day.

[28] No, I never said he was bad.

[29] Those things are fucking hard man. Those things are really hard to do.

[30] It's really hard to do a talk show like that and be even remotely interesting.

[31] It's so segmented.

[32] It's like you never really get a chance to get rolling.

[33] You're just trying to like interject and say witty things in this really brief story.

[34] It's like you barely get to know someone like under the idea of this breaking it up for these long ass commercials and you know you talk in between the break and then when we come back you know and then it's it's so fake and hokey.

[35] You remove yourself and the good guests just say you know what I'm going to do?

[36] He's going to introduce me and I'm going to tell a great fucking story then we're going to go to commercial but if you try to fake that you're hanging out talking that's torture.

[37] Especially when you're using alien way computer right joe yes it's hard to do man it's it's hard to do that job that's a really difficult job this is way easier it's way easier to do a podcast like there's a yeah yeah because a podcast you just start talking you know a show like that like you have to you have to operate within like this really narrow frame of time like what if there's like a really intense subject something that is a really controversial to you and the that you're talking about it with like sometimes it might require a long time to delicately work through some weird subject like if a guy comes on and he's talking about his wife just had an abortion or something that could do it yeah it could yeah I mean anything there's no part two to that yeah well you know it's like there's certain things when you're talking about it you need some time you don't want to have to go go to bring in five you know like come on really okay we'll be back because the host has to fill every second they get uncomfortable when the thing's not going well so they they jump in like some dysfunctional enabler yeah the commercial ruins the conversation it ruins it it fucking kills it it's the death of it and the idea that you have to do a commercial at a certain time like opi and anthony have commercials but they just talk until they're done and then they go all right you guys want to take a break let's take a break play some commercials we're right back and it's completely organic yeah it's like you're watching separate shows you're like you're watching one hour and a half show where they didn't go to commercial and then another hour show whether they can go to commercial, and then they'll go to commercial.

[38] Well, and also, you don't get the sense with Opie and Anthony or podcasts that we're talking the way two human beings talk.

[39] There's a rhythm and there's a pace, and there's not high IQ moments every three seconds.

[40] Like when you watch a monologue in an interview, you had 20 writers mapping every word.

[41] So to me, it's off -putting, and I think it is to a lot of American sitcoms are the same way.

[42] Human beings don't have conversations the way they do on sitcoms.

[43] So that's why people started wanting reality TV.

[44] They were like, this shit makes me feel uncomfortable because it's not real.

[45] Right.

[46] Yeah.

[47] It's clumsy.

[48] It's like the way the president talks to the people.

[49] That's the same sort of thing.

[50] It's the same sort of animal.

[51] It's like seeing Gene Simmons on his show.

[52] That's just annoys the fuck out of me. The fake stuff, the acting part.

[53] Because it's not only fake, it's just really dumb fake.

[54] Like he glued dildos to his hand, you know, like really like this.

[55] I have to believe that you glued a dildo to your hand.

[56] It's so unfortunate, but I guess it's just trying to keep doing it.

[57] You know Bobby Lee, right?

[58] Sure.

[59] Apparently, he's talked about this.

[60] I'm not outing him about this.

[61] When he goes on the road, he finds out.

[62] How many times do you have people had to say that statement in reference to a Bobby Lee story?

[63] Which, by the way, I love Bobby Lee.

[64] Love Bobby Lee.

[65] I really do.

[66] I mean, truly.

[67] But you know why?

[68] Because he's a broken toy and he knows it.

[69] We all know it.

[70] So you don't have to...

[71] And he's a sweetheart of a guy.

[72] He is, but he goes on the road, he buys three bottles of Elmer's glue.

[73] And at night, he pours it on his hands and then peels it off.

[74] Are you serious?

[75] That's so cool.

[76] Oh, my God.

[77] And I've heard that, and I was like, I want to fucking do that.

[78] Dude, you know those markers, the Crayola markers?

[79] You can bite off the end and then take out the ink out of it.

[80] You put that in a glue overnight and it will turn whatever color marker.

[81] So you put it on your hand, you can make it like green hawk hands so it looks like you're peeling off.

[82] Nice tip for Halloween.

[83] yeah you should what are you 12 your daughter talking about this you fuck is wrong with you man he's like a stone that's a late reaction Joe he's got a hole in his brain folks he took too much ecstasy he's like that commercial where they show the hole do a 3D of his head can we just talk about how ecstasy is just so amazing that is so it's got a hole in his brain it's such a truthsterum it is a truth sir it really breaks apart your life in front of you like really accurately like it's really nice it's if you if you talk about i don't want to tell don't do ecstasy but in my opinion like if like mushrooms never really seemed like that kind of helped me when i'm like yeah that's cool if walls look like butterflies and stuff where ecstasy actually kind of like like almost like you just start talking about shit that's bugging you and like like i i was really angry the other day and i just kept on like why am i so angry everything i'm saying is anger and it like it really showed me immediately like what was wrong with me me at that point.

[84] It was like a psychiatrist in a pill.

[85] It was weird.

[86] Hmm.

[87] Have you done it much?

[88] You've done it once or something?

[89] I did it once.

[90] Yeah.

[91] It's, don't do it, but it's amazing.

[92] I did a long time ago, but it wasn't good then.

[93] It's got, apparently got a lot better.

[94] Yeah, I had a, I had a positive experience, like I learned something from it, but I also realized that the physical toll is pretty substantial.

[95] Your body takes a big hit.

[96] Well, I fled a lot of 5 -HDP and a lot of counter -fucking.

[97] ecstasy, fix my brain juice and stuff.

[98] So I do it right.

[99] Like I've never, the next day felt like shitty.

[100] Like a lot of people wake up the next day and feel depressed and they, you know, I've never felt that.

[101] Well, that was originally how on it was conceived.

[102] Right.

[103] Roll on and roll off or whatever.

[104] Those are like some of the first products.

[105] And the idea being to help re -boost your neurotransmitters after you go on a binge.

[106] Oh, yeah?

[107] After you, yeah.

[108] I love that instead of us working towards people, you know, becoming sober we work towards fixes just like hangover juice just adopt don't change we just say it's too fun yeah it's too fun to not indulge i like to experiment with my head man it's crazy going a liver cleanse or something what's that can you turn these down turn you down what's going on here i feel like i'm at an acdc concert except it's you guys talking better yeah that's great thank you thank you oh he's on a different channel or something we all have our separate volume channels crazy.

[109] That sounds so deep.

[110] We all have our own separate vines.

[111] If you have them last, they probably turned it up.

[112] I don't remember.

[113] Whoever it was, probably had common in their ears.

[114] Whoa.

[115] How dare you?

[116] How dare you?

[117] Silly boy.

[118] Yeah, that exorc is not good for you, boy.

[119] Eventually it's going to rot your head out.

[120] I literally do it once every like four months, something like that.

[121] I don't do it like every week or something crazy.

[122] But even once every four months, that's hitting it kind of hard.

[123] well they say that it does fuck with your receptors that you can't get happy it's like same thing with opiates if you if you take them too much you you clog up their receptors and the only thing that gets through is the drug that's why it's so hard to get off of those fucking pills if you get in is brutal to get off I could easily stop never do ecstasy again I've had several friends several people that I knew and grew up with who became pill pill people yeah I've seen it happen I've seen people lose everything, see them lose their shit for pills.

[124] Yeah.

[125] It's creepy.

[126] It's weird.

[127] It's a weird thing.

[128] You know?

[129] Yeah.

[130] He went from taking the pills because it's basically heroin.

[131] It's the same makeup.

[132] And then he couldn't, he didn't have pills one time at a club.

[133] And some happy little helpful doorman said, well, why don't you just snort some heroin?

[134] I got some heroin.

[135] And boom, over.

[136] Wow.

[137] Jesus Christ.

[138] I took a broad.

[139] I had shoulder surgery a couple summers.

[140] ago and they gave me like it way too easily my surgeon gave it to me then my general practitioner gave it to me and I had a supply going and I took that shit for six months I was taking not a ton maybe three four a day but it started to feel like when I didn't have one I was not feeling good and then when I stopped it was some fuck those toughest two days of my life yeah I've heard that the withdrawal is like almost some people they just can't take it it's like a torture and they just quit and they go back on the pills and say, you know, I'm, I just can't do it.

[141] Yeah.

[142] It's terrifying how easy it is to get them.

[143] It's terrifying how, like, quick people are to take painkillers.

[144] Yeah.

[145] I'm good.

[146] I mean, I like drinking more than any of this, you know?

[147] Like, I think that's just something that I could relax, have a few drinks, feel good.

[148] But I, I don't, never got into having, like, cocaine.

[149] And it seems like that's just, like, once you do it once, the next day you wake up and you feel like shit where I don't want to do that again you know yeah yeah I don't get addiction of pills and well I think that opiate thing is a totally different monkey I think once it grabs you it just grabs you by the balls and just entwines itself with your system when you get that monkey on your back that's a completely different experience I think the opiate one seems to be more of a intense physical experience yeah it is and I'll tell you what, I got a friend who's been doing it for five, six, seven years.

[150] A very successful screenwriter.

[151] Cannot write without it when he take, because writing is, it's scary.

[152] And if you lose all your fear and you write with abandon, that's when you do good writing.

[153] So he started taking them because it got him out of his writer's block, but now you start taking it just to get normal.

[154] That's when you're in trouble.

[155] When you're not even getting high, you're just trying to crawl back.

[156] They're terrifying.

[157] And it's, you know, what People, and people will call me a hypocrite because I smoke so much weed.

[158] Hypocrite.

[159] But I can stop and take a week off, and I feel no physical effects.

[160] Like I did recently.

[161] I went to Hawaii.

[162] I didn't get high for a week.

[163] I didn't bother me even a little bit.

[164] It's like there's no withdrawal effects.

[165] There's nothing.

[166] I don't think people understand that.

[167] I mean, some people think that there's some sort of a psychological withdrawal effect that some people go through.

[168] And then there's people that just their body.

[169] just completely behaves differently than the normal person's body.

[170] And they have much more of a proclivity towards addiction.

[171] There's some people, apparently, that like any sort of a change in a state of consciousness to send them on a spiral.

[172] They can study the brain.

[173] They can look at chemicals in the brain and see an addictive brain in the way it behaves.

[174] It's very different.

[175] It's fascinating.

[176] And so there are, I would never say, I mean, look, some people die from eating peanuts.

[177] You know, I would never say that, you know, my experience in taking anything.

[178] thing is the same as yours.

[179] So for some people, Pop might just be this impossible ride into the depths of hell.

[180] I mean, I don't know.

[181] And then immediately they're hooked on it.

[182] It's not to me, but to someone with some really funky, weird genetics, someone that can die from cranberries or some shit.

[183] You know what I mean?

[184] Like one of those weird people?

[185] No, I mean, addiction to my family, everybody.

[186] I mean, my dad died of 51, basically, drinking and smoking.

[187] And, you know, three and a half packs of day.

[188] I'm sorry I hate hearing that shit And aunts and uncles Everybody's got addiction So I quit drinking 21 years ago I was 25 years old when I quit drinking Dude I remember I remember Greg pre and post Yeah Yeah And it was like for me It was like I know I got to So the addiction shifts You go from one thing to the next And for me it was Drinking Went to working Went to sex and I really believe that I don't know what a sex addict is we all want to fuck all the time what's the line you cross between healthy libido and sex addicts I dated one you did yeah and it was very unhealthy like she did not leave the bed all day and just wanted to fuck or masturbate all day well some people are just trying to erase whatever is fucking with their head some horrible vision from their past you know terrified memories molestation whatever the fuck it is some people are just trying to just rub that out yeah they're just trying to masturbate to heighten their experience so they don't have to think about that for a brief moment yeah you know there's there's a lot of people out there that were fucked with when they were kids I mean it's a terrifying number it really is I kind of get wary too when I see somebody who works way too hard and never lets up on themselves I always think you're fucking hiding from something you know they're not no balance no real relationships just yeah people can definitely get crazy they can well it's it's it's hard because you get so focused on success and then you're dealing with a bunch of other ruthless motherfuckers who are focused on success so you have to like up your game you know that's that's like the whole drive of modern man and people get way doucher that way it's like you're responding to competing against each other and you all doish it out yeah worse and worse do shit there's a documentary called Happy.

[189] You can get it on Netflix.

[190] And it's like a, you know, a very academic, quantifiable look at happiness and how it transcends cultures.

[191] They started out showing this guy in India who pulls a fucking Rickshaw and he lives in a tent with his family.

[192] And the guys, you know, it sounds fucking corny.

[193] The dude's happy.

[194] You know, they followed them and they interviewed them and they say that 50 % of your happiness is just your wiring.

[195] Here's your fucking DNA.

[196] Here's the juices in your body here's how people like they showed a woman who'd been run over by a truck she was a beauty queen and her face is fucking mangled it's hard to look at her and she returned to her happiness level within a couple years same thing with somebody who's depressed they can hit lotto within a year they've settled back at their baseline so that's half then 20 % is shit like status career money and then 30 % is shit like what you do flow getting into exercise getting into martial arts getting into, if you're a writer, getting lost in something, that's the other 30%.

[197] So you have to strive to control that 30 % by not letting the 20 % get any bigger and giving yourself the room to, you know, have that balance.

[198] And it seems like exercise is like the number one thing.

[199] Yeah, that's a huge part.

[200] You've got to keep your body alive.

[201] You've got to keep it moving.

[202] You've got to keep stressing it.

[203] Got to keep making it.

[204] Keep regenerating.

[205] You keep sending, you know, impulses into it, firing your hormonal system.

[206] You're going to force yourself to work.

[207] If you don't force your body to work, it wants to just give the fuck up.

[208] Use it or lose it.

[209] Yeah.

[210] But they say the same thing with what I was saying before, how they, this is where I heard about this in the documentary about how you're, what are the chemicals that make you happy again?

[211] Endorphins.

[212] Yeah, your endorphin receptors start to dry out.

[213] They start to die.

[214] And the more you use them, the less they die.

[215] So they say try different activities.

[216] Learn a new language, try a new sport, travel somewhere you haven't been.

[217] Do ecstasy.

[218] Maybe.

[219] Maybe.

[220] That could be part of it.

[221] Yeah, I don't discount the idea of any really big psychedelic experience for helping you.

[222] I've learned a lot about myself doing them.

[223] You know, and the regular one that I do of the isolation tank, just that, just getting high and getting that thing.

[224] You know, it's mind -blowing enough.

[225] You know, I have some pretty intense.

[226] visionary experiences doing that do you remember them clearly some of them some of them I remember really clearly the one I've talked about it before it's so retarded but uh it really did happen I was in the jungle and I was walking through the jungle and there was a bunch of people we were barefoot and they were talking and I knew their language I understood what they were saying the language was not English.

[227] It was a different language.

[228] They were talking and I understood it in their language in my head.

[229] And then I freaked out.

[230] And then I said, what the fuck am I?

[231] And then when I freaked out, I spelled it out to myself, like in English.

[232] Like, what the fuck am I doing?

[233] I am listening to a language and I understand it in that language.

[234] But I said that in English.

[235] And then I snapped out of it and woke up.

[236] And it was the creepiest thing.

[237] Because just like when you have this conversation with me and I know exactly what you're saying because I speak English, I knew exactly what they were saying.

[238] But it was not English.

[239] But I knew what the intent was.

[240] I knew exactly what they were saying.

[241] And I understood it in their own language.

[242] It was freaky as fuck because it felt so real.

[243] So you had two selves in a way.

[244] There was the guy watching the guy speaking the language, standing, observing.

[245] Yes, yes, yes.

[246] That's what woke me up out of it.

[247] I couldn't stay in it.

[248] It was so crazy that I couldn't stay in it.

[249] It just was like, what?

[250] I wasn't capable of holding the hallucination.

[251] You ever think about that, though, because I think that that has a lot to do with maybe happiness or maybe sanity, is that we all do have a couple voices.

[252] You have the guy judging yourself, and then you have your id, you know, your animal impulses.

[253] And, you know, Freud would say it's like your, you know, your ego and your super ego.

[254] and that basically you are observing yourself all the time and the guy that's observing you is the fucking asshole he's the one that's socializing you and getting you to do what's appropriate which you need to a certain degree but the balance within that I think it's the distance between the two voices you know obviously if you completely became transcendent maybe the Dalai Lama has one voice and how close can you get those voices really close yeah well you know you there is the momentum life and then there's the every now and then you're like objective assessment of the life that you're living on momentum like sometimes you're just life is on momentum for like long slides and then you need like another perspective on yourself a little speed bump yeah you need to go what's going slow down what's going on here buddy yeah how are you really thinking how you really living I think that those reset situations that you can get in life whether they're a strong yoga class you know whether it's a you know a DUI that could do it too yeah it could be external fuck yeah well you could realize like holy shit I'm a fucking loser I'm out there driving drunk yeah yeah for sure that could fucking snap you over into a realistic perspective on where you're at and the other voice then steps up yeah those those little epiphanies can happen And then all of a sudden that, that guy that was in the flow, is like, dude, get in the back seat.

[255] I got the wheel for a little while.

[256] You're going to get it back on the road here.

[257] You know?

[258] And it's like, you know, for me, having a wife and kids and not drinking, I don't have much escape.

[259] So I really do struggle with that.

[260] Like the guy that's telling me to do the right thing.

[261] And I realize I drive a fucking Prius.

[262] I have college savings accounts for my kids.

[263] I fucking exercise.

[264] like it's great stuff but there's a part of me that feels like that animal inside right you know and I'm not gonna fuck around you know I'm not gonna drink uh so I try to find other ways and part part of it is just being a clown when I'm out with my wife I fuck around with everybody parking a tenant waiter I just to me it's like being out with her and having fun is the fucking greatest and making her embarrassed and she she protests but she loves it and that's our relationship oh that's really funny that sounds like fun.

[265] That sounds like fun.

[266] Yeah, I put a napkin on my head at a restaurant last week and she actually got mad of me because I wouldn't take it off.

[267] It was like a really nice restaurant.

[268] That's hilarious.

[269] Guy, I want to see that.

[270] That is such a Fitzsimmons sense of humor moment.

[271] You just love being able to do that to her.

[272] Just do it and realize that you are so different from me. That's what you're saying because she grew up, she grew up in New York City in a fucking not a great neighborhood.

[273] She's a sophisticated chick, you know, she's got her master's and social work and, you know, but she's not wild at all.

[274] She's very dressed down, but she accepts me because she grew up around insanity.

[275] Right, right, right.

[276] So it's a perfect combination, and she reigns me in peacefully.

[277] She's not a nagging wife.

[278] She's not a ballbuster, but she is almost that other voice that gently I just watch her and she peacefully brings me back into my kids.

[279] You know, sometimes, you know, sometimes you go away and you come back and you see your kid and it's like, you're not connected and you've got to work your way back in.

[280] And she's like my guide.

[281] She brings me back into it.

[282] That's awesome, man. Yeah, if you can find someone, you just gel with them and you enhance each other, that's what relationships are all about.

[283] I mean, that's what we all hope for.

[284] But it's the crazy thing is how rare that is.

[285] But it's work, too.

[286] Oh, for sure.

[287] It's not a perfect soulmate.

[288] It's, you know.

[289] But, I mean, how many people do you know.

[290] that are truly happy in their relationships?

[291] What is the percentage?

[292] You know, how many people do you know that are struggling?

[293] I would say, how many people do you know to fight a lot?

[294] Probably half.

[295] Probably half the married couples I know really like have a, like to the point where they say it out loud, it's a thing.

[296] Yeah, I would say that you're, yeah, I would agree with you.

[297] I think the people that I come in contact with is about half.

[298] Half of them seem like nice couple.

[299] Look at that.

[300] They seem friendly and seem like they enjoy each other's company.

[301] And then half of them, they just snipe at each other.

[302] And they do it right in front of you.

[303] Oh, man, that's so rude.

[304] You know what I'm doing.

[305] You know what I'm doing.

[306] Just stop it.

[307] Stop it now.

[308] Do you see what he does?

[309] You see it, right?

[310] This is what I deal with.

[311] Oh.

[312] Those relationships are ruthless to watch, man. Because that's out in public.

[313] You got to imagine what it's like behind closed doors.

[314] You know, that's...

[315] Did you see that video of a basketball player who was a first -round draft pick?

[316] Did you see that, Brian?

[317] Brutal.

[318] The dude beat his girlfriend up and did it on camera.

[319] Oh, yeah, yeah, in front of his daughter.

[320] Was it in front of his daughter?

[321] Wasn't there a little girl there?

[322] Are you talking about, like, he reached over the fence?

[323] No, no, no, no. This was in, it looked like it was in like some sort of a hotel or an apartment lobby or something like that, somewhere where they had a security camera, wherever it was.

[324] He's this big, fucking dude, big super athlete basketball player.

[325] and he like kicks her to the ground and smacks her in the head and you're watching us, it's terrifying.

[326] She's really little, man. She's not a big person.

[327] And he's giant.

[328] And apparently he just beat her ass.

[329] And they sentenced him to a bunch of different shit, man. They sentenced him to like, all told, I think he has to go to jail for like three years.

[330] No!

[331] No shit!

[332] Yeah.

[333] And he just...

[334] When he probably dropped a fucking...

[335] And $20 million contract, too.

[336] Well, you should see the video, too.

[337] The video is crazy.

[338] He collapses in the courtroom.

[339] Collapses.

[340] And he was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. Fell down, collapsed.

[341] I mean, it was really fucking intense.

[342] It's terrifying.

[343] I mean, he realized that he was going to go to jail for three fucking years.

[344] You know what sucks about that is that ain't going to change the dude and that ain't going to change any other domestic abuser.

[345] Putting people in jail, it's like, why isn't there?

[346] they're more like, you know, especially in the inner city where you see people with less father figures and you see more violence to really make it a part of schools that you learn how to respect women, how to respect, you know, the opposite sex because it is something that is cyclical and it is cultural.

[347] You see a higher instance of domestic abuse with poor people.

[348] And, you know, that shit, jail doesn't change that shit.

[349] It just causes more anger.

[350] Yeah.

[351] It's not like it's a great place where they're going to, you know, sit around and do ayahuasca and find their spirit self, realize where they went wrong on their path to enlightenment.

[352] Surrounded by dudes.

[353] Yeah, it's a mess.

[354] The whole idea's a mess.

[355] And then you get into the fact that there's private prisons in this country.

[356] That's one of the most mind -boggling facts about American culture.

[357] It just makes you wonder what is the intention of the people running this fucking place where they've allowed to get so crazy.

[358] They don't want vacancies.

[359] They get vacancies they're losing money.

[360] You got a fucking get some reservation people out there.

[361] That's what the cops are.

[362] Their reservation is for the prisons.

[363] Yeah.

[364] It's almost like that, huh?

[365] Yeah.

[366] It's funny that, like, the police officers' unions will actually lobby and vote.

[367] They, like, try to make sure that certain drugs aren't made legal.

[368] They have...

[369] No shit.

[370] Yeah, sure.

[371] That makes sense.

[372] Yeah, police officers unions, or not police officers' unions, but what would they call them?

[373] PBA?

[374] What do they call them?

[375] the people that work at jails.

[376] Corrections officers?

[377] Corrections officers.

[378] Yeah.

[379] That, uh, corrections officers, uh, you know, they, they'll actually like use their money and influence to try to make sure that drugs stay illegal.

[380] Speaking to which, number one domestic abusers in the country.

[381] Corrections officers?

[382] Really?

[383] Yep.

[384] Yep.

[385] Jesus Christ.

[386] Super high rate of alcoholism.

[387] I read this book about of course.

[388] It's a terrible job.

[389] It's terrible for them, man. I mean, I don't have anything against corrections officers, it's a terrible place to be, to be just completely surrounded by people who are locked in a cage, and you're not, and you walk amongst them all the time, and they can just take a fucking free run at you at any moment.

[390] You live your life in constant stress.

[391] Yeah.

[392] Yeah, I don't envy them by any stretch of the imagination.

[393] I think that if you're going to really take putting someone in a jail and reform seriously, you're going to have to come up with a way better method than what they're doing.

[394] Oh, yeah.

[395] This is ridiculous, because this isn't reforming anybody.

[396] No, there was, I read this book about Sing Sing.

[397] This journalist went undercover as a prison guard for two years.

[398] And he came out of it.

[399] He divorced his wife.

[400] He was an alcoholic, and he was living in a fucking one -bedroom shack.

[401] His whole life fell apart.

[402] Yeah.

[403] And he said that the alcoholism on the inside, he said it's just, and it becomes consuming.

[404] It becomes a challenge that you take with you when you leave work.

[405] It's not you go to your job, you finish, and then you go have your life.

[406] becomes these motherfuckers and I'm going to do this and it eats you up.

[407] You become part of it.

[408] Yeah, human beings are weird as fuck.

[409] Trying to figure out how our behavior lends us astray or leads us astray rather and how we can try to get it back on track if it's at all even possible, like as a group of us.

[410] It's like when you look at just the massive amount of crazy human momentum type behavior, where we're just on our momentum.

[411] Like, here's a thing in New York where they had to recently pass something that makes rabbis have to get consent first before they suck your kid's dick.

[412] Suck?

[413] Yes.

[414] Do you know when you circumcise a child, the rabbi traditionally will suck upon the boy's penis to stop the bleeding?

[415] No. Yes.

[416] Yes.

[417] Is this just with Orthodox or is this all Jewish?

[418] I don't know what sect of Judaism.

[419] I don't really care what they call themselves.

[420] Whatever silly people do this.

[421] it's real it's they've they've had babies die in very recent times because the baby will get herpes from the mouth of the whatever i think they're called a moyle Jesus yes that's a tradition there's a guy it's like there's this nutty fucking video this guy defending it and he explains it in in the the word the Hebrew word which like means to suck like that it's strictly says that that's how you're supposed to deal with that so that's what they're doing so and you're just discounting my thought is that you're just discounting that this fucking baby is not going to remember this experience you know how do we not know that that's some nightmare in the back of his mind like constantly fucking with him dude the sucking is nothing cutting the dick is where it starts yeah cutting the dick and then sucking it it's it's really satanic shit yeah it's tribal it's fucking and it all goes back to shit that's like you know that the American Medical Association no longer recommends circumcisions in third world countries they do to prevent AIDS and other Transventive diseases I've never got that How is getting your dick cut Gonna prevent AIDS Well it used to be because the fold around the crown Would get germs in You're gonna get AIDS that way Really?

[422] Really?

[423] That seems so ridiculous I think it gets infected more Because there's shit that gets in there Like wash your dick You don't get AIDS That's my point We got running water People can't even wash their Oh so because we don't have running water They're getting AIDS through their foreskin Yes Yes, which is true.

[424] Their foreskin makes AIDS?

[425] Well, anything that folds back around the gland, like a vagina basically collects way more diseases than a penis.

[426] You know, like men don't catch AIDS almost ever from straight up sex with a woman who has AIDS.

[427] But if you got a vagina, you got a really good chance of getting AIDS if you have sex with somebody.

[428] If you have any kind of tear in your vaginal wall or ceilings or floors or shades or blinds, your lips, slats.

[429] do you know that there's a doctor who doesn't believe that it's terrifying when someone when you're too stupid to know who's dumb you know because there's this guy who's a uh his name is dr peter duseberg and i've read all his stuff and i know that he's a um a professor of biology i believe at the university of california berkeley it's like a legit guy and his whole idea is that HIV is not what causes age Oh, yeah, I heard about this guy.

[430] Well, President of South Africa said the same thing.

[431] Did he really?

[432] Yeah, the biggest AIDS country in the...

[433] By the way, I meant HIV before when I was talking about transmitting disease and not AIDS.

[434] Well, I am way too stupid to understand who's right or who's wrong, you know, because obviously there's a bunch of geneticists and a bunch of disease specialists who completely disagree with him.

[435] And they think that HIV does cause AIDS.

[436] I wish I was smart enough to know what the fuck, where it's ridiculous.

[437] Well, it's all shit happening at a molecular level.

[438] It's all guesses, but it's percentages.

[439] And if you say that when we see these symptoms of immune deficiencies happening in people, they have lesions that are losing weight, then we often find that before that they, you know, that the immune leads to the lesions and all the outbreak of AIDS.

[440] So why not play those odds, since we'll never know the actual truth, if there even is one?

[441] Do you think that's what they're doing?

[442] I mean, what Duesberger's saying is that it's linked to partying.

[443] What he's saying is that it's, dudes do like meth and go crazy and poppers and amyl nitrates.

[444] Apparently those poppers are unbelievably bad for you.

[445] Like instant brain damage.

[446] And that doing that partying on a regular basis like that just wrecks your immune system.

[447] Well, I mean, it's why third world countries get AIDS more is because when you're malnourished and your system is worn down, you tear easier.

[448] Your tissues break open and your immune system can't fight back as much.

[449] So it's, you know, it's about, you know, wealthy countries get it less because they're fucking, they're in better shape.

[450] So what you think is that HIV is something that can be avoided?

[451] I think it, I think the likelihood of getting it is increased when your system is worn down and you're malnourished.

[452] And, you know, you don't have enough fluids in you, then you tear.

[453] And that's where the, you have more cuts around you because your skin, everything is just not as elastic and strong.

[454] And that's all coming from sex then.

[455] It's just completely sexually transmitted.

[456] Yeah, you put a penis in a vagina and you rub it back and forth and something tears and then the seaman gets in there.

[457] Boom.

[458] HIV.

[459] Remember when you were kidding, you thought everybody would be dead of AIDS by now?

[460] I know.

[461] We were convinced.

[462] Well, we caught the wave.

[463] We got fucked.

[464] We got scared.

[465] Do you ever remember what happened the first time you took an AIDS test?

[466] Yes.

[467] Did you panic?

[468] I fucking panicked.

[469] I fucking panicked.

[470] Because it's like a 24 -hour wait.

[471] Yeah, I fucking panicked, man. Yeah.

[472] I fucking panicked.

[473] I thought about some weird drunk nights on the road as a 20 -year -old, you know, 21 -year -old.

[474] Come on, man. I had, I caught gonorrhea once.

[475] Jesus.

[476] So is it really green when you pee, like, is it?

[477] Yes.

[478] It hurts.

[479] It hurts worse than any.

[480] And you're fighting, your need to urinate, full bladder.

[481] But every ounce that comes out, you are.

[482] ready to fall on the floor screaming.

[483] Wow.

[484] Yeah, it's nice.

[485] And then one shot in the ass, gone.

[486] Did you know there's a syphilis outbreak in porn?

[487] Yeah.

[488] Really?

[489] Some dude got syphilis and then didn't show his full medicals.

[490] Didn't show...

[491] No, he faked his...

[492] He took the shot.

[493] He took a shot and he thought he was clean 10 days.

[494] That's his story.

[495] And apparently 11 days, he didn't even...

[496] He waited one day.

[497] And then the next day, he did a movie.

[498] And gave people syphilis.

[499] Because it's domino.

[500] She then has sex with four other guys.

[501] I mean, he didn't even, I mean, he didn't even get another check.

[502] He didn't even get another blood test to see if it's still in the system.

[503] Wow.

[504] He didn't even, he just said, I've got to work.

[505] Well, because you don't have to.

[506] My friend is the head of the, the venereal disease department of the health service for California.

[507] Lucky.

[508] His whole thing is trying to get, yeah.

[509] I mean, he knows as much about porn as I do because that's his whole thing.

[510] It's like, you know, when they started using.

[511] using condoms, that was him.

[512] And he said that the testing, once a month you get tested, which means the gestation period for HIV is like 20 days or whatever.

[513] So you're never really catching it.

[514] And that there's one agency that does the testing for all the porn movies and it's not even a medical office.

[515] It's not a doctor.

[516] It's a clinic.

[517] Yeah, but they closed all these places down so they're all forced to go to like one place now where it used to be really convenient that you should be able to go to any doctor get a test get all the tests because it's all the blood sent to the same place as these labs but they're not letting them do that anymore so now they're all forced to go to this one sketchy place and so there's all these creepy people that hang out there trying to fuck with them and stuff like that and it's yeah and it's also they have to pay for it the actors pay for the test themselves yeah what fucking job that you go to that I mean first of all it's a law you have to get tested to work if it's a law why the fuck are they paying for it yeah that is a business that didn't get a bailout that business crumbled yeah i mean there's guys still making money there's like the very clever computer guys but you think about like the business of pornography and how many people watch pornography and then the fact that all the sudden no one was paying for it anymore like all the sudden it all just went away and it's gotten bigger and porn's everywhere yeah it's everywhere and it's not if mitt romney gets enough what do you think the number one propheteer from pornography, guess who it is?

[518] Mitt Romney.

[519] Nope.

[520] Close.

[521] It's another Mormon.

[522] Really?

[523] Who?

[524] The Marriott family.

[525] They own more hotel chains.

[526] Oh, that's right.

[527] And that's the only place people are paying for anymore.

[528] They're the number one profiter from pornography.

[529] Squeaky clean Mormons.

[530] People do pay for it still.

[531] Allegedly.

[532] I've heard.

[533] I should say that so I don't get it.

[534] That they're squeaky clean?

[535] No, no. They're the number one.

[536] Oh, yeah.

[537] I think they may, well, if they're not number one, They made a fuckload of mine.

[538] I would say Motel 6 would be number one.

[539] No, but I think they own it.

[540] I think Marriott owns a lot of just chains.

[541] Yeah, pornographers, those dirty pornographers, the Marriott's.

[542] Isn't that crazy?

[543] I wonder if you found out they made like millions a year from pornography.

[544] There's businessmen on the road, weeping at the end of the bed.

[545] Yeah.

[546] At least it's on the expense account.

[547] I don't have to.

[548] That's why they do it so much.

[549] It's all on the expense account.

[550] Uh -huh.

[551] They don't question you for those $40 movies.

[552] They don't mark them anymore.

[553] they don't mark anything they don't give you a title on the bill just moving course yeah they can't give you a title on the bill that they had to know a long time ago that was a must when you bought porn because i'm assuming you don't anymore what was your thing what section were you in shopping i didn't ever have a thing never really got like too specific it's uh you know the thing about porn is this different you know you won't see different people yeah you know you know even if one girl's really pretty you get bored I got I started off girl girl only like I didn't even want any girl's in the picture Brian's like let me just pretend that we're all in this lumber party and I'm gonna be your best BFF ever Well it's just something I didn't see every day You know like I have had sex But like I never saw two girls together Right shit was like aliens to me Yeah it's strange But they look happy usually I just like to see a dream crushed In my clip I need a dream crush I need a casting couch.

[554] Oh, those are the best.

[555] Those are hilarious.

[556] Or the, the, was it, was it bang bus that used to pull over?

[557] And people would just fuck.

[558] Get in the car.

[559] We got a porno star.

[560] Holy shit.

[561] My favorite now is fucking machines.

[562] Wasn't that kid, the kid that was in some, what movie was in?

[563] The kid that had done a porn when he was young, he did like a Bang Brothers?

[564] Jonathan.

[565] Yes.

[566] Yeah, from Project X. Yeah.

[567] Yeah, yeah.

[568] What was his story again?

[569] He just, he did a, I think it was a bang bus.

[570] How old was he?

[571] I think he'd just turned 18 or something like that.

[572] He's a John, Jonathan, I can't even think it was written last name right now, but he was in that movie Project X, and he's a big chubby, nerdy kid with glasses.

[573] Really?

[574] And he was in a movie where he fucked, I think it was his first time, too, like four girls in a bus.

[575] And he, the funny part was, though, is that.

[576] Was it really?

[577] Four girls?

[578] I think it was.

[579] Jeez.

[580] Good for him.

[581] And the funny thing was, is that he had like a huge hog.

[582] So it was just like, it was like so weird that like I actually knew him before like, like we had him on, I had him on a few podcasts.

[583] Like I didn't know about it.

[584] And so just like knowing a guy and then finding out he was in porn and then seeing his, his hog.

[585] Well, that happened with me with, uh, you know, Simon Rex from MTV.

[586] Simon Rex.

[587] He was like one of the original VJs on MTV.

[588] Yeah.

[589] Doesn't he, he has another name now?

[590] Yeah, he has a band now.

[591] Dirt nasty.

[592] yeah exactly and he's good he's fucking good guy he's been on my podcast his uh that what what song the 80s is that what it is I can't remember the song about the 80s fuck now I'm gonna go crazy we'll drop it into the podcast later but yeah but he did some kind he just masturbating but I think it was a big hit with the men with the gentleman came out like after he was famous fuck now I'm going crazy trying to remember this fucking song you so crazy shut the fuck up what's wrong with you today You got to stop doing ecstasy so much.

[593] It's breaking your brain, man. You've got a holy brain.

[594] What's the fuck machine?

[595] Cheesy brain.

[596] Fuck machine is, they're called fucking machines .com.

[597] I think it is.

[598] And it's actually robots that fuck.

[599] But they're like really high powered like, you know, like, you know, like dildoes that shoot in and out of them at like 80 miles per hour.

[600] And they can't control.

[601] Like they're tied down.

[602] So like there's somebody sitting there going, yeah, I'm going to fuck you hard.

[603] And like, it's really crazy.

[604] Like Dana Diarmone did it And it seems like you can break your pussy Yeah That's a good way to get your pussy all broken Some machine, robot, metal dick Just fucking stabbing you Yeah Yeah, whoa What if it goes a little too hard?

[605] I know What's wrong with a vibrator Where you hold the other end?

[606] Is it that much of a chore?

[607] Why would you let an machine fuck you?

[608] You gotta be real careful about that kind of shit And what's crazy is that People on those webcam sites are now doing it Because they have like these I guess you can easily buy them now For your home like a portable one that's just like or they make them from like a hardware store but like there's this one girl that she's just like getting a like the dildo is like uh i don't know 12 inches maybe like a huge dildo and she was giving a blow job to it and she put it on full blast you can just see it like her throat get bigger like a snake eating a watermelon and it's it was like you're going to hurt yourself you're going to break something you're going to choke or you're going to crack your neck open.

[609] Ugh, so crazy.

[610] And what's weird is that what is like the algorithm in your brain that wants, like when you talk about different, like, I used to love Asian chicks.

[611] Yeah.

[612] Got another feat.

[613] I was never like, let me suck your feet and jerk off.

[614] But I appreciate a nice pair of feet, especially on an Asian woman.

[615] Let's just put that out there.

[616] So then I move on to the casting couch and I start to wonder on a deeper level, what is it about my personality or my brainwaves that attracts.

[617] me to a specific thing and then what is it that has so broken down the social order that people respond to machines fucking it's like the flesh the softness the humanity has been stripped away and all that's left is the violent part of fucking do you have you heard of this new um this discovery at harvard they've created a cyborg flesh of course at harvard because nobody can get late here right yeah exactly i mean but along those lines like this is like literally step one until you create a robot that's going to fuck you, a meat robot.

[618] This is nuts, man. Fuck the flying jetpack.

[619] This is pretty intense shit.

[620] To create the cyborg flesh, you start with a three -dimensional scaffold that encourages cells to grow around them.

[621] These scaffolds are generally made of collagen, which may accept the connective tissue in almost every animal.

[622] The Harvard engineers basically took normal collagen and wove nanowires and transistors into the matrix to create a nanoelectric scaffold.

[623] The neurons, heart cells, muscles, and blood vessels were then grown as normal, creating cyborg tissue with a built -in sensor network.

[624] Is this the plot of a porn movie or this is reality?

[625] This is reality, man. This is crazy shit.

[626] This is like cyborg flesh.

[627] Like they're figuring out a way to replace your skin with robots.

[628] skin.

[629] I'm going to see you in 20 years from now, and you're going to be a 24 -year -old handsome man. Asian.

[630] They're going to take your whole body and slowly replace your skin with some fucking robot skin.

[631] I'm going to have to get used to young Greg.

[632] It's going to be weird.

[633] Can't worry.

[634] What about the hair?

[635] Talk to me about the hair.

[636] Thank you.

[637] Fuck.

[638] Even if I could grow my hair, I'd go back to shaving it.

[639] It's almost freeing feeling.

[640] Just rub it through, but it will stop you from getting a certain type of gal in your life.

[641] People, they've created an artificial skin.

[642] No, no, no. I'm saying this is step one to be a robot, you know, that is your sex slave.

[643] Well, that's why, you know, it's all male scientists and the women, they're like Israel trying to fucking defunct Iran's nuclear program.

[644] They're coming in at night, exposing all the test tubes.

[645] Totally.

[646] Totally.

[647] Throwing fucking paint in them and shit.

[648] You're never going to get their fake pussy.

[649] never It's fucking lighting the laboratory on fire while they sleep Yeah they finally think They've got one She comes out And they designed it Like a garbage that spells Of the pussy Just fucking devoures That little dick That little Harvard dick You're so funny That was such a Boston thing to say That little Harvard dick Dick trying to hide the stump This thing is really complicated I don't think I even understood what I just said But what it seems to me Is that this is I mean They're going to be They can create flesh They've already figured out I've done to do that They've figured out a way To create meat in like Essentially like a test tube environment Yeah They've had you know So it's just a matter of time Before And the meat is Replicated DNA?

[650] Is it re?

[651] I don't understand it I'm too stupid to answer that question.

[652] But I guess the big turn is getting it to actually reproduce itself, DNA like it does in humans.

[653] Exactly.

[654] But it seems to me that if they can replicate one aspect of it, if they can figure out how to replicate meat, it's just a matter of time.

[655] It's like we went from the Model T Ford to the 2013 Corvette.

[656] It's like it gets better.

[657] It gets better.

[658] It gets better.

[659] When they're doing this now, this is what they're doing now.

[660] this is going to expand into something else incredibly freaky.

[661] This is going to be incredibly, incredibly freaky.

[662] This is cyborg tissue.

[663] I mean, this is a, you can make a fucking sylon, okay?

[664] You can make a cyborg.

[665] Like, this is step one.

[666] When they look back in history, when life is like Battlestar Galactica fucking for real, and we really are fighting off these intelligent robots that we created, this will be the day where people look at this and go, wait what did they do what did they make what did they started with this and then goes from this to what and by the time they tell you about this how far are they along on this oh they'll be the ones telling you about it yeah they'll be clones clones will be telling you about cloning well we figured out how to clone because the guy is a clone who's telling you about it yeah and the amazing thing is that you look at like I went to the Santa Monica promenade the other day and they come out of the five -story parking garage with a line of cars at two different stations.

[667] No human being.

[668] Like, you're literally collecting between $5 and $10 every 15 seconds all day and night.

[669] You can't pay $12 an hour to some fucking guy to have a job.

[670] And that's what's happened is that they talk about unemployment is, you know, the unemployment rate is high.

[671] Well, it's not just high because the economy's not doing good.

[672] It's they're slicing jobs with machines everywhere, just to stay at even with the job rate, you would have to be creating X number of jobs every month.

[673] And with these cyborgs, what the fuck?

[674] Who's going to have a job anymore?

[675] Yeah, who's going to have any sort of a manual labor job?

[676] I welcome the cyborg friends.

[677] I think I'd rather enjoy paying a machine than talking to some fucking retired in a party garage.

[678] That's not the idea.

[679] I think it's faster, too, so it's more convenient, it's faster.

[680] Oh, you're so crazy.

[681] You're so crazy.

[682] Because here's the problem.

[683] are going to be intelligent.

[684] If they're going to be intelligent, they're going to be sentient, which means they're going to have their own will.

[685] They can do whatever they would like to do.

[686] The first thing they're going to do is make a better one of them.

[687] They're going to realize what we did wrong, what was stupid about this.

[688] This is shitty.

[689] You thought about this like a person would.

[690] Let's redo this better.

[691] And they'll do that almost instantaneously.

[692] But that's the big question.

[693] In all of this, since the 1950s when they started talking about robots and stuff, is can there be a sentient moment?

[694] Can there be that transition from something that's been programmed to something that can control itself?

[695] You know it would be really horrifying if there never was a sentient moment but it acted as if there was one and it just ran around like this meat puppet program just fucking gunning holes in people because it didn't know what it was supposed to do.

[696] Yeah.

[697] You could just throw them in a toilet pour some water on them, you know, stop.

[698] You know, like a cell phone.

[699] It is electronics.

[700] You might have to think twice.

[701] I think it would probably have that covered.

[702] That whole get wet part.

[703] It'll double itself.

[704] They already know how to do that with cell phones, you know.

[705] There's like some product.

[706] They dip it.

[707] No shit.

[708] Yeah, they dip your cell phone on this product and you can like literally drop in the ocean, pull it out, dry it off and make it hollow of it.

[709] Like your existing cell phone?

[710] You can bring it and they do this?

[711] Yeah, yeah, yeah, send them the cell phone.

[712] They take it and soak it in some kind of crazy polymer that doesn't have, I don't know the word polymer, I should even be allowed to say it because I don't even know what the fuck a polymer is whatever plastic shit how about that some awesome super cool plastic shit that keeps water from getting through to the electronics somehow or another I don't understand it that's weird yeah but there's demonstrations of it online I can't remember the name of it but if you're so curious you will Google it you just you can get some and dip your cock in it never wear a condom again yeah I don't think you'd feel as much you'd be all waxing shit like every time you're in the shower with you girl you got a boat She's like, why is it so waxy?

[713] It's just so weird.

[714] It's like the water's just beating up on it.

[715] It's just like the hood of a fucking Chevy.

[716] It's their birthday.

[717] You let your dick on fire and stick it in the cake.

[718] That is one of the nicest qualities about those old American muscle cars was those big, long giant hoods when you wax the car.

[719] And then it rained and the water beat it up on that thing and just kind of swipe the water off.

[720] yeah those fucking cars man those were works of art i gotta show you this mustang i saw today i was over in uh burbank and what what powerful burbank is so not berber wherever cbs radford is that's burbank isn't it no studio city city and uh there was this brian don't be a hater don't be starting gang violence check this out lake side mafia some kind of special cat it said like california press the button what is it California edition of what?

[721] What are you showing me?

[722] It was a, it looked like a 68 Mustang, but it had these, maybe you'll recognize it.

[723] I've never seen one.

[724] It's hilarious to me how a guy like you doesn't have some fucking crazy car like this.

[725] It's time.

[726] You already convinced me. You have to.

[727] I'm up for a head writer job on it.

[728] What's that?

[729] I said this is an old Mustang.

[730] Yeah, it looks like at 67 maybe.

[731] I don't know the years of God.

[732] But it's got scoops on the side by the doors.

[733] The lines of those cars were just so.

[734] beautiful and it was a 350 like special edition it's set on the side but no i i'm up for a head writer job that's why i was just over there and if i get it i'm pulling the trigger because i'll be commuting to fucking cbs radford from venice what are you going to get i think i'm going to get the challenger dude goodbye it's a lot of gas yeah it's a lot of gas but you feel like a fucking man when you're getting there i'll have gas the rumble of the engine blah blah blah blah i rented a mustang in ohio fuck my wife in the back yeah you rented a mustang and didn't like it Really?

[735] Convertible Mustang.

[736] No shit.

[737] Wait, that's the one you were just telling me about.

[738] I have one.

[739] I love it.

[740] Yeah, but yours's a different style, I think.

[741] Well, I have the, it's a different, what's a different experience.

[742] It's the GT 500.

[743] It's 550 horsepower.

[744] It's an aluminum block engine.

[745] It's the Ford GT engine put into this wobbly -ass convertible body.

[746] Oh, it's beautiful.

[747] It's so much fun.

[748] It's the most American dick hard car I've ever driven.

[749] I wouldn't want to drive it every day, but when I drive it, it's fun.

[750] It's fuck.

[751] Yeah.

[752] It's just, I don't even think about playing anything except 70s rock in that car.

[753] Yeah.

[754] Because it just got this rumble.

[755] It's like Leonard Skinner all the way.

[756] I got on a big Leonard Skinner kick when I bought this car.

[757] Because I'm like, this is the kind of music you need to be listening to.

[758] Simple Man is perhaps the most moving rock song of all time.

[759] A father telling his son how to be a man. It's a fucking great song.

[760] The Battle of Curtis Lowe.

[761] Yeah.

[762] Yeah, they had some classic shit.

[763] Just so fucking underrated.

[764] But there's something about dudes that guys can, for whatever stupid reason, like really viscerally connect with the sound of an engine of a car.

[765] And, you know, that kind of like, you know, 1970s, late 1960s classic rock.

[766] It's like they ball together into one really like guy -centric experience.

[767] And I don't know what the fuck it is.

[768] It's really weird.

[769] Like, I've tried to assess my love for the rumble of an engine before, like, why it's so retarded with me. Like, I get, like, a shriek, like, a little child when I hear a good engine wail.

[770] Like, I just fucking love it.

[771] It just sounds awesome.

[772] Yeah.

[773] But it's stupid.

[774] It's so stupid.

[775] Like, wouldn't it be better if it was completely silent?

[776] Like, that's what I don't like about the Prius.

[777] That's totally silent.

[778] But wouldn't that be awesome?

[779] You know, for one thing in this fucking stupid life to not just make a shitload of noise everywhere it goes?

[780] Wouldn't that be awesome?

[781] Well, you know what?

[782] Give me a Prius that has a fake sound when I push the accelerator.

[783] It just plays on the inside of the car.

[784] Well, do you know, they have a BMW that does that.

[785] The BMW M5 has the sound of the engine transmitted through the speakers.

[786] It's really kind of a cheesy move.

[787] And it's an automatic.

[788] Well, it's double clutch.

[789] It's an automatic, but the best way to drive it is to use the paddles.

[790] You know, like when they take it on a track.

[791] It's an amazing car.

[792] I mean, there's nothing bad about the car.

[793] It's just the decision to make the sound come through the stereo seems like cheating.

[794] It sounds like what it sounds like.

[795] They had to make it a turbo because there's all these new crazy gas efficiency laws that are coming out.

[796] And it's really hard to make the same like gas guzzler type engines.

[797] And by the time, I think it's 2016, I believe it is.

[798] Every car is going to have to be above 35 miles a gallon.

[799] That's going to be the industry standard.

[800] So, like, all these cars, like these Mustangs and shit, you want people to buy them just in a few years from now.

[801] Stock them up.

[802] You can't get anything retarded in a few years.

[803] Yeah.

[804] Because, like, and by the way, the Shelby, the GT 500, somehow or another, it doesn't even get a gas cozzler tax.

[805] You know, I don't know how that happened.

[806] Is it a V8?

[807] It's a huge.

[808] It's a huge V8.

[809] But they figured out something, make it really efficient with the supercharger.

[810] Well, you were saying that what was the car you can bring on a track that got better mileage than a Prius?

[811] A BMWN3.

[812] Yeah, when you bring a Prius onto a track Top Gear did this They took a Prius And they made it go full blast Around a racetrack And all the BMW had to do Is keep up with it And the BMW kept up with it Easily and got better gas mileage Than the Prius did Because the Prius was fighting for its fucking life Whereas the BMW was just like sprinting Well yeah But I think the Prius is designed To save you money Stop and go through town It's not for highway Yeah, that's the whole point of the brakes generating extra power right?

[813] Yeah.

[814] The brakes help recharge the engine.

[815] Mine's got a downshift thing now so you actually collect even more.

[816] It'll decelerate the way if you downshift it would and collect that energy.

[817] When are you going to pull the trigger?

[818] As soon as I get this job.

[819] I'm going to find out in the next week.

[820] Women will never understand these conversations.

[821] But we'll never understand fucking handbags.

[822] Do you ever get a handbag conversation with Mrs. Fitzsimmons?

[823] She's not like that at all.

[824] Oh, thank the baby Jesus.

[825] We just went to a big wedding and she borrowed handbags.

[826] bag jewelry i felt like such a dude oh that's funny that's wearing a fucking dress i'm like look go she's shopped for two fucking weeks right and didn't find anything i go into a store and it's very simple i need a shirt i'm going to this store i'm walking out with a shirt that's all it takes pants this store walk it's christmas shopping got to buy something for the wife this store coming out with something she spent two weeks going in and out did not find me that that boggles my fucking She had the best affairs ever I didn't know if she had no clothes She keeps on leaving I know all these guys his house Mwamp Mwamp Warr The The wife's getting fucked She found a friend that had a dress Though that she liked Yep That's weird That's hilarious So what is your wife usually Wear like lumberjack shit Like Yeah she's into flannel Timberlands She's got hay She's a hay in her hair Now she wears like She's got big tits So she'll wear like 34 ds And tight jeans Not tight tight tight But you know She's got a good fucking body man I swear to God I had sex with her the other day And I was just like fuck God damn it Your body's nice You know I check her out All the time And she she initiated It was fucking nice She initiated She initiated he's giving us full details I mean in You know In the living room Nice I just fucking walked in Took it.

[827] She wanted it.

[828] Any music?

[829] Any music plan?

[830] No. What was on TV?

[831] It was like something like C -Man.

[832] I was on my laptop on the chair in the living room and she fucking lap danced me with no music.

[833] Whoa.

[834] And then we threw it down on the couch and and then she just walked away.

[835] Kept on doing her shit.

[836] Just took it.

[837] Wouldn't it be funny if Greg and his wife didn't really have sex at all anymore?

[838] But he like had written all these stories but he gets them crossed up and he doesn't realize he told us one already but it was a little different before it was on the couch last time but he said the same thing about her walking away you imagine catching someone in a crazy lie I don't have the best marriage ever and just find out it's just death that was the saddest I saw a little bit of this movie with Kevin James he's a fucking good actor I mean my kids watch him in all these movies and not only does he do physical comedy but his face can do so much shit even in a drama he's a powerful dude Here Come the Boom movie Here Comes the Boom movie is coming out in October And that's a movie where he plays a MMA fighter He plays a guy who is a college wrestler He's fucking great in it man He can act his ass off And he can take those silly high concept movies like that And actually ground it enough to make it funny But this movie anyway He's about to His friend's gonna propose And he's telling him how great marriage is He's trying to drag him into it And then the guy sees his wife cheating calls her on it and she goes well what do you know about our marriage he goes and gets a fucking hand job from a tie girl every Friday and it all falls apart you know and this guy wants to get married but he realizes every married person is spinning another fucking story about their marriage and to me it's like you either stay married like getting divorced you should never do until you need a divorce then you should get a fucking divorce but to live a lie in a marriage why not kill you're not alive if you're doing that yeah yeah some people just can't change they have a real hard time just moving on to the next thing yeah they have a really hard time just changing it's very difficult for some people that's one of the things in this happy movie it talks about how the pain the thing that you think is losing your job going broke even getting kicked out of your house it's never as bad as you think it's going to be and and the fear of it happening controls so much of your actions it goes away right away you experience it and you're in a new reality all of a sudden i got no house i found another place my life moving forward yeah uh you keep on getting out of sync with us for some reason your camera and so i'm trying to fix it it flashed i noticed that it flashed yeah i'm trying to fix it right now but long as the audio's on i'm gonna be i'll be a man of mystery but it was weird is like me and greg would be talking and then you would answer like five seconds on delay so it was like me and you were in a different world than joe it was really trippy to watch.

[839] I've been, I fixed it once before, then it started happening again.

[840] Really?

[841] Yeah.

[842] Do you think it's because of switching this laptop?

[843] Yeah, probably.

[844] Switching the windows?

[845] Yeah.

[846] We tried to do the podcasted windows.

[847] The iTunes version will be good, ladies and gentlemen.

[848] Go get that audio version.

[849] And as far as the video, we gave it a shot.

[850] Wait, what is it?

[851] We were broadcasting for the first time today.

[852] It looks like it's up.

[853] Yeah, I fixed it last time it started happening again.

[854] This is the first time we're broadcasting the video portion of it off of a window.

[855] computer.

[856] We've never done that before.

[857] Why?

[858] Because we have one.

[859] We have this alienware computer that gave it to us, so we figured, well, let's try it.

[860] And normally you do it a different way?

[861] Normally do it through a Mac.

[862] But you should always mix it up once in O 'R.

[863] We decided to see what would happen, and apparently there's some issues.

[864] I wonder if that's a fixable thing?

[865] It's probably the power of the laptop.

[866] It's trying to handle three webcams at the same times.

[867] So I'm guessing.

[868] Really?

[869] What a weak -ass bitch.

[870] Well, we went from an IMAQ, which is like top of the line to a laptop.

[871] So it's three, the three webcams are taking it down?

[872] But that's a gaming laptop.

[873] Those things are, they have super power when it comes to like, graphics cards.

[874] Yeah, but wouldn't that have anything to do?

[875] Or is it's the information coming at it?

[876] It's the CPU.

[877] I mean, you're doing three webcams.

[878] I don't know.

[879] And it's the power of powering those.

[880] It's the wrong one.

[881] You know, I should have brought that big giant one in.

[882] We should tried it with that one because that one is much more powerful.

[883] Don't you think?

[884] That would be a better move.

[885] Yeah.

[886] That's a lot of shit to put through a computer.

[887] Sorry, folks.

[888] We're trying to do this.

[889] Technically, we're a mess.

[890] I'm trying to do a two -camera thing backstage.

[891] I'm doing a one -hour special and we're shooting backstage with multi -cams and trying to stream it live before I go on.

[892] And the director's all on top of that shit.

[893] And I was just like, you know what?

[894] And what do you begin doing in the stream live before you go on?

[895] You know, I'm backstage.

[896] My two best friends that I grew up with two biggest fucking troublemakers because I'm shooting it in Tireytown, New York.

[897] And these guys, I can't even get into what they fucking did because one of them is the town judge.

[898] The other guy's the fire chief.

[899] So fucked up these towns are.

[900] And so the special is going to be me. They're pulling up somehow illegally getting the fire truck and pulling me up to the front of the theater on a fire truck.

[901] And then at the end, they're leading me out and putting me into a police cruiser and tearing down the street.

[902] So I want to have all my buddies backstage that I used to fuck around with growing up, all the troublemakers, and just right up until they announced my name to go on stage, I just want to be fucking around and laughing.

[903] That's a great idea.

[904] That'll get you really warmed up, sort of like when we do the Ice House, the podcast we do right before we do shows.

[905] Yeah, exactly.

[906] Same sort of thing.

[907] That probably inspired me to do it, actually.

[908] It's a great move.

[909] Think about it.

[910] Those are the guys that put you in the frame of mind, you know, that made you a comedian in the first place.

[911] Yeah, you get into the...

[912] rhythm of making them laugh and do that to the audience yeah that is uh when you get a group of guys and a couple of them are funny it can get pretty fucking crazy yeah if you get a group of guys and a couple of them are funny well because then you got the guys that their laugh keeps keeps it going then you got the guy you're all shitting on yeah and you all know the dynamic it's like it's like the Beatles you got four guys and they all have a roll exactly it's hilarious who is your who is your guys growing up?

[913] Well, my two best friends when I was growing up were two Jimmy's, and they were both a year ahead of me. So they were graduating, and they were both tradesmen, one Jimmy's a carpenter and one Jimmy's an electrician, just real normal guys, and I lived with one Jimmy, Jimmy Dutilio.

[914] Great fucking guy.

[915] To this day, I talked to me every now and then.

[916] I really don't get to see him that often.

[917] I saw him when I was in Boston when I was there for the UFC, him and my other friend, Jimmy Jimmy Lawless.

[918] You saw both of them together?

[919] Yeah, yeah.

[920] We hung out and then they brought their kids.

[921] It's crazy.

[922] You know, Jimmy Lawless brought his kid.

[923] It's just, it's so weird.

[924] His real name is Lawless?

[925] Yeah.

[926] Bad ass.

[927] He's a great guy, too.

[928] Isn't it weird?

[929] He's been my buddy since we were like 15.

[930] Has it just like old times?

[931] He just immediately.

[932] Oh, yeah.

[933] He's just a great guy.

[934] Well, you know, the thing that I've always said about that life, the living that life in Boston, It's a hard life to live in that weather It's a hard It's a hard place to grow up too Because people in Boston have like Extreme blue collar work ethic too There's like a lot of that up there too There's a lot of people that like When I was in high school I felt so lazy Because I knew like 10 dudes that had landscaping jobs They had their own like series of lawns they would cut And then they were hiring people And this I remember this kid was driving a brand new car When we were in high school Like, what the fuck?

[935] You always had money, this kid.

[936] It's incredible.

[937] He just figured out, I felt like such a lazy asshole because this kid had figured out how to move and hustle.

[938] Like, there was so much of that.

[939] And I grew up in Newton, in Newton Upper Falls.

[940] There was so much of that there.

[941] But Newton is kind of right and wrong side of the tracks, isn't it?

[942] Well, my side of the tracks was just, we just lived in a really cheap house in a pretty decent neighborhood.

[943] I mean, it was a cute little neighborhood, but the house was a piece of shit.

[944] And my parents bought the house so that we could be in the neighborhood so that they could get us into a good school system.

[945] Because we were in Jamaica Plain before that, which was really shady, the area where I was at.

[946] JP.

[947] Kid, make me a fucking sally's down, JP.

[948] JP was shady.

[949] I saw some crazy shit living there in just a couple of years.

[950] That was a tricky place.

[951] But, you know, nothing compared to, like, real bad, and it's not Compton or anything like that.

[952] No, but there was that whole, like, Italian -Irish, Like, you had JP, you had, not Dorchester, but West Roxbury, not Roxbury, but West Roxbury, right next to JP.

[953] And it was like, you weren't in Dorchester, but you could get your drugs there.

[954] And, you know, there was, like, people that had got just enough money to get out of the really shit neighborhoods made it out to, like, JP.

[955] Yeah.

[956] We would go into Dorchester late at night and buy food at places.

[957] And I remember we were at this place, they were serving, like, steak and cheese sandwiches.

[958] And it was open really late at night, and this neighborhood was fucked up.

[959] It was like, you were scared to expose your money before you paid for it, because you thought someone would just stash it from you.

[960] Like, there was just some wild, crazy people there.

[961] And they had this thick plexiglass between the server and you.

[962] And they only served you through, like, this slot.

[963] And they gave the guy the sandwich, and then the guy says, that'll be X amount of money.

[964] and the guys just started screaming, I already paid you, you motherfucker.

[965] You're trying to cheat me, you motherfucker.

[966] And they were like, let it go, let it go, let it go.

[967] Let him go.

[968] Let him go.

[969] Let him go.

[970] Just let him go.

[971] And they just let this guy creep out of there, just hoping that he didn't just blast them, hoping that you didn't catch a man on his last day.

[972] You know, because you can, if you, you know, especially if you live in a big city, I guess you can't anywhere.

[973] You just run into someone on their last straw, like that guy.

[974] Just run into that guy.

[975] they were like have the sandwich thanks take it easy that's where you got to have instincts you know you can take anybody in a city you know you take somebody who's not from a city and you put them in a city they don't have that instinct they don't know what's going to go walk away or challenge there's times where it's just a safe to challenge somebody yeah sometimes but sometimes people talk too much and they get themselves in trouble and they don't know what a real fistfight is like they don't know what a real there's no rules out there okay that guy could stab you like you don't know this guy he might be from some other country where you know they'll stab people on the regular.

[976] I mean, he might fucking shoot you.

[977] You don't know what you're doing.

[978] Why are you fighting people?

[979] Like, if you get avoided at all costs, avoid it.

[980] Yeah.

[981] It's a stupid thing to get involved with.

[982] But I think challenging can be a subtle thing, too.

[983] Like, when I, you know, walking through New York City all those years, if I'd be in fucking lowery side, late at night, three black guys coming from the other direction, not to be racist, but the fucking reality is...

[984] I can't believe you went there, Gregory.

[985] Three black guys walking past me in a bad neighborhood.

[986] You fucking cross the street, that's dangerous.

[987] You've got to walk right at them.

[988] You can't make eye contact, but you don't look away.

[989] There's a subtle way that people know how to live in cities.

[990] And if you fuck that up, you become a victim like exponentially more.

[991] Yes, absolutely.

[992] That's what I mean by challenge.

[993] Yeah.

[994] Yeah, I know what you mean by that.

[995] Yeah, I agree with that, definitely.

[996] What I meant is, like, people start unnecessary altercations.

[997] I run.

[998] I just take off around.

[999] Just turn around.

[1000] I see a black guy on a sidewalk.

[1001] You probably could outrun a black guy.

[1002] I would so imagine.

[1003] God, was that racist?

[1004] What I just said?

[1005] No. No, because you're just admitting that white people are scared of black people.

[1006] Yeah.

[1007] I'm more scared of black people than white people.

[1008] I can tell you, I mean, if you want to be fucking totally rip myself open and be honest.

[1009] Really?

[1010] Yeah, I am.

[1011] I'm not.

[1012] I think physically more black people can kick my ass, but I think there's more white serial killers.

[1013] Interesting.

[1014] Serial.

[1015] You're going cereal.

[1016] I'm with Greg.

[1017] I think white people are just as creepy.

[1018] crazy.

[1019] I think my fear comes from what I look like.

[1020] I think that as a white guy who's not big with a receding hairline, I think I look like somebody that you could fuck with.

[1021] That you could fuck with more.

[1022] And I think especially for black people I look and that and it may and it's not true but in my head, in my fucked up view of things I think that they're seeing me that way.

[1023] I'm putting that on them.

[1024] Well that's could get you in trouble man. I got robbed by a black guy so I immediately think that.

[1025] You never got Rob by a black guy so I immediately think that.

[1026] You never got robbed by a white guy?

[1027] No. I never got a gun for I'm a white guy.

[1028] I mean, I've only been robbed once, so hopefully in the future it's a white person and then Asian person, then a Mexican.

[1029] So you have a multi -racial profile of people who offend to you?

[1030] Don't even put that out there, man. I'm just going to come back to you like the secret.

[1031] No, he's going to start hanging around in Chinatown late at night until he gets robbed there.

[1032] Drunk.

[1033] Nada.

[1034] Pants down.

[1035] Where am I going?

[1036] I don't know.

[1037] I keep forgetting.

[1038] Can you give me directions totally lost here i'll give you money how many dudes are out there doing that right now how many dudes are out there just fake drunk in chinatown yeah i'm so drunk i'll i might just do anything right now pretending to pass out of to let the guy fuck him a cop comes over and sees it you want to report this no no i'm good let it let it go how many times do you think cops interrupt low jobs on a given night in los angeles It's amazing because they don't even hide I mean you see you see prostitutes just bobbing up and down Oh I wasn't saying prostitutes I was saying someone just getting crazy in the car Yeah Have you ever seen people do that Oh fuck I saw a girl giving head While driving down Pacific in Venice I'm driving home from dinner with my wife And we're at a red light and I point to my wife And the dude is driving an SUV And all you see is this head And they're higher than us I can only see the top of the head bobbing up and down And I look at the guy and he looks at me And I'm expecting a fucking a thumbs up nothing just looks at me looks straight ahead head's bobbing and to this probably trying to keep his boner this was five or six years ago to this day every time we're driving down Pacific at that spot I go remember the time she's like yes I fucking remember he was probably scared that you were going to try to honk and ruin his blowjol he's panicking he felt the conflict the eye to eye conflict he was losing his edge that's what the porn star say when they start to lose their bonner they lose their edge I wonder what that guy did it because like if I'm if I'm on fire at dinner you know I put the napkin on my head I'm getting laughs whatever then I'm driving home she might hold my hand and I get some sense that there's going to be action but how good was he at dinner that she fucking started bobbing up and down on him I don't even think it was dinner the one that I saw I saw it was in the middle of day it was oddly enough with Kevin James no we're bringing really yeah and there's a dude and he was right beside us and and Kevin spotted it first.

[1039] And I was like, holy shit.

[1040] And Kevin was going to hit the horde.

[1041] And I talked about it hitting the horn.

[1042] It was just joking.

[1043] But the guy saw us and gave us a thumbs up.

[1044] Nice.

[1045] That's appropriate.

[1046] Yeah.

[1047] The guy saw us and went like this.

[1048] And he pointed to it.

[1049] Yeah.

[1050] And it was pretty funny.

[1051] Dude, that was my closing bit.

[1052] Remember for fucking years?

[1053] It was like, uh, ladies, you've never seen this before, but here's what we do when he give us a blow job.

[1054] And then I just start pumping my fists in the air and doing that.

[1055] That I closed.

[1056] I was so embarrassed how long I was like, First year, Greg Fitzsimmons.

[1057] I killed, man. It fucking killed.

[1058] Wow.

[1059] Do you ever go back and think about some of the shit that you said when you were on stage?

[1060] You go, what the fuck?

[1061] You know, Jim Florentine just put out a CD called My First Notebook, and it's shit that he was so embarrassed he used to do.

[1062] He found an old notebook.

[1063] He went out and he did all of it in a club.

[1064] He's putting it out on a CD.

[1065] Oh, that's hilarious.

[1066] And he's promoting it going like, I don't know why anybody would buy this.

[1067] This is fucking horrible.

[1068] That's brilliant.

[1069] That's hilarious.

[1070] that is that well that's not brilliant for everybody a lot of people go to go those fuck a material blows yeah but for a guy like man it's brilliant well I think it's it's interesting it would be interesting to people in the same way that like you know you hear the like Bruce Springsteen there's these tapes they just call them the tapes the album and it was when he auditioned the first time he drove in from New Jersey in a fucking broken down pinto brought his acoustic guitar in and started playing Mary Queen of Arkansas and all these amazing fucking songs acoustic with different chord structures, different pitches, and it's like, it's fucking, it's not as good, but you're riveted because you're like, wow, this is the fucking sketch that led to this masterpiece.

[1071] Wow.

[1072] So, I mean, not that that would be the equivalent with stand -up, but I think it would be interesting for people to hear maybe the, what was the roots of a set they already know, rather than just a bunch of shit you never did again?

[1073] Yeah, for sure.

[1074] Yeah, if they could hear it, like, after the fact, like, this is what didn't make the cut.

[1075] Yeah.

[1076] This is how the bit evolved.

[1077] The problem is when those intermediate steps get online.

[1078] Yeah.

[1079] You know, when, you know, they already get on a YouTube clip or something like that.

[1080] Or, you know, you see it and you go, ah, but that's not even, that's like the beginning of it.

[1081] It's like, it's just growing.

[1082] Like, they're always, they're always growing up to a certain point.

[1083] But there's that really fragile time for a bit when you're first doing it or the first few times you're doing it on stage.

[1084] You're not, if one of those got online, you'd be like, ah, yeah, that's.

[1085] That's a stupid version of that.

[1086] Well, because a lot of times you're talking around the joke.

[1087] You haven't figured out the bare bones construction of it.

[1088] Yeah.

[1089] And you're describing the joke that it later will become.

[1090] Yeah, that's a very good way of putting it.

[1091] But I think what a lot of people don't know that are watching stand -up comedy is that while you're doing it, you know, you're barely even thinking about what you're doing.

[1092] You're almost like riding it.

[1093] You're almost like when you really lock it in.

[1094] You know that feeling you get when you're really.

[1095] really killing.

[1096] Yeah, you're in the flow.

[1097] You don't even feel like you're a part of it.

[1098] Like you're witnessing it all happened.

[1099] That's exactly what I was talking about with the happy thing.

[1100] That's the flow.

[1101] Yeah.

[1102] Well, that's what, you know, the whole, the idea of being in the moment completely is zen and locked into how the universe is expressing itself through, through whatever the fuck it's going on, through either stand -up Conland or through music or through car racing, whatever the fuck it is, man. It's just that that moment when it all works out you know and you come off stage there's nights you come off stage exhausted those nights you come off with twice the energy is when you went on it's like you just soaked in yeah all this energy and you just fucking ride it it can last a full day where you're just buzzing still yeah it's a it's a weird gig you know and the weird thing about uh you and i is that we've known each other since we first started you know there's not that many guys from our little group there's you me mcguire tom cotter tom cotter top three finalists.

[1103] America's Got Talent.

[1104] Powerful Tom Cotter.

[1105] Good luck to you buddy.

[1106] I mean there's there's not that many guys from that that small group of open micers that we were in that like you know you think of open micers just like classes like this is the class of 1988.

[1107] There's a class of 1989 and we were the 88 guys.

[1108] Yeah.

[1109] You know?

[1110] And it was and every couple years it was a very different brand of comedy that would come out.

[1111] Not very different but enough that you could detect it.

[1112] there was changes and trends and what was that kid's name who was a uh johnson mcguire no no no the guy who was a regular at the um at nick's comedy stop he was sort of like nick de paolo but oh um he became like their regular guy yeah yeah oh fuck he's funny as shit funny as shit oh he never left boston no i forget his name kills me he's still a oh i'm oh i a killer too.

[1113] He is a killer and that's the thing about Boston is the guys that have figured out the sort of formula that works in Boston but are also an original voice.

[1114] It's just amazing how you can you can destroy when it's a match of a comic versus a certain locale.

[1115] Like you take somebody like David Cross and put him in San Francisco, boom, locked in, they're going to go for long rides with him.

[1116] You go to Houston with somebody like, you know, like, you know, like what Bill Hicks was.

[1117] You take a Southern act, you put him down, blue collar guy, you put him in North Carolina, but you take guys like Nick Tappalo or this guy, and you put him in Boston, and it's just, it's explosive, what happens, it's a match.

[1118] I don't remember his name and it's driving me fucking crazy.

[1119] I'm gonna get it.

[1120] He's a really funny guy, but he just stayed, you know, and I'm sure he does well, like in Boston.

[1121] Paul Nardizzi.

[1122] That's it.

[1123] That's it.

[1124] Beautiful.

[1125] That's it.

[1126] And I remember that kid was like the class, I think of 89.

[1127] I think he came a little bit after us, right?

[1128] 91 he was he really that much later maybe 90 maybe 90 yeah because I was gone by I think 92 92 92 I was gone might have been 90 it might have left at the end of yeah it was 91 91 yeah definitely but he was really really fucking funny I'm sure he still is that guy was he was really good just so edgy the shit grips out of the boom boom boom and he was like a hammer attack dude who just hammer you over and over again with another one here's another punch line another punch line yeah that's that rapid fire Boston style it's like the the the crowds in Boston were so hostile that you had to develop this like really energetic like rapid fire style you have to be leaning forward yeah mentally oh you had to constantly be up there was no sitting on the stool get the fuck off the stool yeah Jesus you're an entertainer yeah there weren't long pauses I mean you know you start working the road and you learn the value of a nice go get a sip of water fucking let them sit but not in Boston no way stay on the horse attack you but it's also the you know I find it a very Irish thing is that you don't deserve to feel good or have any pride and so Boston is about stripping it away from you so every joke is about you know I go to the fucking tall booth and the guy I hand him a 20 he goes you got change no that's your fucking job your job is to make fucking change I give you a 20 it's just like any fucking entitlement or is just fucking knock you in a cold way just knock the shit out of you yeah like immediately and there was no dissent it was yeah 100 % right there was no entertaining another side to an issue Cambridge was an odd sort of a club do you remember catch a rising star in Cambridge Greatest fucking club ever, maybe.

[1129] That was a great club that was run by Psycho.

[1130] Robin Wharton.

[1131] Yeah, he was quite a character.

[1132] But he loved comedy.

[1133] He loved a certain type of comedy.

[1134] He hated me, but he loved comedy.

[1135] He called me. You go in and you audition for the guy.

[1136] You do 10 minutes.

[1137] And then at the end of it, he tells you right away.

[1138] He goes, no, or yes.

[1139] And he said, no. And I didn't give a fuck.

[1140] I've always had very thick skin.

[1141] I go, well, I'd like, why?

[1142] he goes well i can either tell you no or we can go on the back and sit down and i can tell you exactly why i said yeah let's go on the back first words out of his mouth as far as i'm concerned you're just another cocky little irish puke that was the beginning wow that's fucking racist yeah he he didn't get racist with me but he said that i am everything that he hates about comedy he goes what you do is everything i hate about comedy wow And I said, oh, okay, well, I guess then we don't like the same things.

[1143] And then we had this weird stare down where he's like a, he was a big guy.

[1144] Thick motherfucker.

[1145] It was a big guy.

[1146] Like, I didn't want to tangle with him.

[1147] I didn't want to have to scrap with him.

[1148] But it was an intimidation moment.

[1149] It wasn't a comfortable moment.

[1150] I didn't like it.

[1151] It wasn't like this is a smart friendly guy who should be managing a comedy club and influencing comedians.

[1152] Everything had this heavy leftist bent to it.

[1153] everything had this like Harvard socialized Socialist yeah well Barry Crimmins would sit at the bar and if he didn't like what you were doing he would yell shit out at you like he was like the dean of the club They were best friends And I love Barry Crimmons He's a fucking brilliant political guy But back then he was drinking a lot And he and those guys were on a mission To create a place that they thought was fertile For this type of comedy I was at a catch before I ever did stand up with a friend of mine from high school, Diane DeRosa, really nice girl.

[1154] We're just buddies sitting in the club, and your boy, Kevin Meaney, went on stage.

[1155] This is before I ever got on stage myself.

[1156] And this is when Kevin Meaney was on fire.

[1157] Kevin Meaney was a fucking crusher, dude.

[1158] Crusher.

[1159] Carusher.

[1160] And you didn't understand what he was talking about, with his big pants.

[1161] We're big pants, people.

[1162] And you'd be corrupt.

[1163] lying laughing.

[1164] It was so ridiculous.

[1165] And I remember leaving, thinking, I knew he was funny because I'd seen him on TV before.

[1166] He did like five Tonight shows that year.

[1167] Yeah.

[1168] But I, nothing like seeing him live.

[1169] It's such a completely different experience seeing a guy like that live.

[1170] Because he's like, the silliness is not that contagious when it comes through the TV.

[1171] But when you're in front of that dude and he's, he was fucking crushing.

[1172] It's hard to describe.

[1173] I saw him in that same club, probably on, I don't know if it was the same weekend.

[1174] It must have been closed.

[1175] That era.

[1176] But when he came in, the place was fucking jammed.

[1177] Yeah.

[1178] And he went up there sweating in a bow tie and a jacket.

[1179] I don't care.

[1180] And to this day, I say, when people say, who's the best of me, I say nobody has ever made me laugh as hard in one set as Kevin Manning.

[1181] Wow.

[1182] That's a good statement.

[1183] I stand by it.

[1184] I believe you 100%.

[1185] I might, I might, it's too far of a distant memory for me to say that mine was just as good.

[1186] But I remember being blown away about how.

[1187] funny it was.

[1188] It was just so long ago.

[1189] I mean, I think it was, you know, part of it was he's silly and he would sing that song.

[1190] I don't care.

[1191] And that was his theme.

[1192] He did not, he was going to be this ridiculous, a rip, fucking torn kind of a character.

[1193] Rip Taylor?

[1194] Rip Taylor, I think it is.

[1195] And Taylor?

[1196] No, Rip Taylor, Rip Taylor was the guy threw confetti and acted crazy.

[1197] It was like a little bit of an element of that, mixed with a guy who really understood stand -of -comedy.

[1198] Yeah, he was fucking hilarious.

[1199] Yeah, he was in my wedding party.

[1200] Really?

[1201] It was one of my ushers.

[1202] Wow.

[1203] Yeah, I grew up a, uh, I had one town over from him.

[1204] And my dad got him on stage his very first time because my dad was a big radio guy in New York.

[1205] Wow.

[1206] Kevin was a waiter and waited on my dad, and it would be funny.

[1207] And my dad said, you should do stand -up, and he was friends with the guy at catch, and he got him on stage his first time.

[1208] I remember when we were open micers, I always thought that was really fucking cool.

[1209] Like, holy shit, Fitzsimmons actually knows Kevin Meaney.

[1210] Like, you actually knew Kevin Meaney.

[1211] And when you'd have problems or when you were going through things, you would ask like Kevin Meaney questions.

[1212] I remember us several times having conversations where you were dispensing like wisdom that Kevin Meeney told you about stand -up.

[1213] And we were talking about it like, okay, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

[1214] You know, those early years when you're such a blind, blabbering fucking moron up there and trying to like, you know, hand feel your way through it.

[1215] Yeah, I got...

[1216] Power C2O coconut water in the house.

[1217] Yeah, it was, you know, it was a time when I really needed a mentor and he wasn't, And he wasn't a guy that brought me on the road open and for him all the time.

[1218] It was just more of, like you said, I could call him any time.

[1219] And here was a guy who was this hot, one hour special on HBO, Mr. Uncle Buck comes out, all the money in the world.

[1220] And I come out to L .A. and stay with him.

[1221] He bought a Chrysler K car.

[1222] That's the kind of guy I was.

[1223] Fucking business, you know, underneath all the silliness, he was a conservative, simple guy.

[1224] So it was advice on comedy, I especially respected because I could see this guy was going the distance.

[1225] This wasn't a guy who was hot and was going to, you know, flail out.

[1226] But you, you know, to this day.

[1227] you know he's still out there fucking banging it out that's awesome now he's out of the closet now he's gay now he's really banging it out he's banging it out his new i didn't i i didn't know that he was i mean i wasn't one of those things where i was like duh you know i thought uh thought he was straight too a lot of people he'd been married too right when he had been married what do i give a fuck what am i the inquire married with a kid no but not only that married he met a woman out in L .A. fell in love with her and called me. It was my babysitter who lived next door to me growing up.

[1228] Whoa.

[1229] What fucking weird is that?

[1230] Whoa.

[1231] How old was she?

[1232] She's probably seven, eight years older than me. Wow.

[1233] Harvard, MBA, real fucking successful type A personality.

[1234] And yeah, my dad had died.

[1235] To be a fly on that wall.

[1236] There were a lot.

[1237] To be a fly on that wall.

[1238] That's my Gene Simmons impression.

[1239] Really?

[1240] Is that what he says?

[1241] Got to do those stuff.

[1242] to be a fly on that wall.

[1243] Does he currently have a show?

[1244] I don't know, man. We were trying to get a campaign to have him apologize to Bert Kreischer.

[1245] Burke Kreisher was on the X show with him that Gene Simms was on, and he said Gene Simmons treated him more horribly than any human being he'd ever met in his life.

[1246] And Bert said that it was just, like, demoralized him because he was a huge kiss fan.

[1247] He was a huge kiss fan who was just literally...

[1248] And if you know, Bert, look, I've known Bert since I knew I met him back then but I've been friends with him for a couple years now he's just a fun wild dude and you if you misread him you might go oh look at this annoying guy man I'm trying to relax before my performance man and so he apparently was like super rude to Bert which just we can't have well we can't have that that's not a surprise it isn't he kind of known for being yeah he is he's known but I met him and he was really nice You know, so it makes me...

[1249] Yeah, but you know what that is?

[1250] That's a guy who treats different people different ways.

[1251] Different status people get a different treatment.

[1252] Which is worse than just being a douche all the time.

[1253] I wish I could have a personal experience to share other than the positive one, but meeting him was awesome.

[1254] He came to my comedy show, him and his wife and his kid.

[1255] His kid had got my shiny, happy jihad CD from iTunes, and he really liked it.

[1256] So is this thing fucking up again, Brian?

[1257] It's just kind of...

[1258] Just can't keep up with it.

[1259] It's just kind of wonky.

[1260] We'll switch it back.

[1261] Anyway, he was really cool.

[1262] His old family was cool.

[1263] They came through New Year's at the improv.

[1264] It was fun.

[1265] But, you know, when you hear a story like that where someone's like super rude to a guy like Bert, you're like, oh, man, that's so hard to hear.

[1266] Yeah.

[1267] Because every now and then you hear a story, yeah, man, I met Patrick Swayze once.

[1268] She was a fucking douchebag?

[1269] And you're like, was it really?

[1270] Are you really annoying?

[1271] Which one is it?

[1272] Because it might be that you might be really annoying and somewhere along the line you might have decided that he upset your feelings and how many i mean have you ever had like those weird like people who feel slighted those artificially slighted people yeah well they're looking for it because we're storytellers and we all want to go back to our town or back to our friends and go hey i met jo rogan and they're going to go really what was he like and the truth is he said hi to you you shook his hand maybe said three words and then somebody else did now they got it they got a fucking pull from that a story for their friends so if there's a hint of you being dismissive they're gonna blow it out because then they've got a connection to you yeah or he was the greatest fucking guy in the world which i never want to fall into that camp either i mean i'm totally i go hang out after shows take pictures i want to be the guy that i'll take a picture with you but you know what don't put your arm around me while your girlfriend figures out how to snap a photo on your phone for the first fucking time Are you scared of hugging people, Gregory?

[1273] Just give the fellow big hug like this.

[1274] I don't mind the hug.

[1275] You know what I don't like is the armpit on my shoulder.

[1276] It's a tall guy with the armpit on my shoulder.

[1277] When you feel the sweat.

[1278] You kind of just deal, man. That's what it is.

[1279] The guy's, he's funking on you.

[1280] And I bet your girl can smell it.

[1281] I bet it's some sort of a primal thing, too.

[1282] Especially if Homeboy doesn't know any deodorant.

[1283] Like, if you come home and you're around your wife, she probably feels like you got conquered.

[1284] That's right.

[1285] What is there's a man on you?

[1286] There's a man on your shoulder.

[1287] That's right.

[1288] Or she doesn't notice.

[1289] She just wants to fuck you, but she doesn't know why.

[1290] How weird are primal smells that, like, I mean, isn't that, doesn't that what puts women on the coinciding menstrual cycle?

[1291] Isn't it a fernomonal thing?

[1292] Is that right?

[1293] I believe it is.

[1294] I want to say it is.

[1295] I might be wrong, but, I mean, how primal are we?

[1296] Women get around each other, their menstrual cycles all coincide.

[1297] So if they all get banged, they all raise their kids together, so the kids have friends.

[1298] Yeah.

[1299] That's my theory.

[1300] Isn't there a thing about how your sperm count raises?

[1301] looking at houses, what the fuck are you doing?

[1302] No. What are you doing, man?

[1303] I'm looking to see what the comments are while I'm listening.

[1304] The comments?

[1305] But your sperm count goes up when you're traveling or something?

[1306] Of course.

[1307] You're ready to conquer in a new land.

[1308] Your body knows it's not around, it's no all smell, and your dick gets hard when you can go to pick up your spear.

[1309] You're traveling.

[1310] You're going to war.

[1311] I'm going to kill and fuck.

[1312] I'll be home in three days.

[1313] How many people are programmed that way?

[1314] How many people from the life in Roman times were programming, rimmed to kill and fuck.

[1315] Kill and fuck at the same time sometimes.

[1316] I mean, it must be really hard to work that culture out, calm that culture down.

[1317] I mean, we're talking about the amount of violence that we see on a regular basis, pretty fucking minimal.

[1318] It can be pretty horrific in certain places.

[1319] But in America, pretty minimal compared to what it would be like if this was the sword fighting days.

[1320] Yep.

[1321] You know, like on a regular basis, people had to deal with some shit that we couldn't even fucking begin to wrap our heads around with.

[1322] Yeah, it was really about power.

[1323] it was what can I take They would do it with swords It would run into a city with swords And chop everything up And take all the people And take their gold And fuck all their women I mean Nuddy shit happens In the world Well it was like in nature You know you destroy your You know If you are competing with somebody For a food source If you're an insect You will start to kill The other insect Or you will find a way To destroy the food source For them so that they die But it's a weird thing of the when people get into tribes especially where they become really synchronized like as this tribe this is us and we're going to go after them and they never even consider the idea of taking them into their ranks like hey listen we're just going to go plunder would you guys like to come with us you know we could be a big army we could all get together well they'll take them as slaves but they never take them on as equals I mean there was a lot of slave holding back then you conquered and you You fuck the women, and you took the dudes and said, you're my slave now.

[1324] Yeah.

[1325] I mean, how many people had to live their life like that?

[1326] A lot, right?

[1327] That was for, for how many years?

[1328] Did that kind of shit go on in this world?

[1329] Well, the Old Testament, the whole fucking book, talks about slavery like it's not even a sin.

[1330] It's in, actually, the Seventh Commandment is, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, thy neighbor's house, thy neighbor's donkey, or thy neighbor's man servant.

[1331] It's a commandment that recognizes slavery.

[1332] Jesus Christ.

[1333] wrap your fucking head around the Bible baby wrap your head around that it's funny how people I choose to believe in like parts of it yeah I know I know and the wording of parts of it as if it wasn't translated from ancient Hebrew to Hebrew to Roman to fucking England and it's like and you're going to tell me about the subtlety of the way he said gay people shouldn't lie together in 2000 years later my favorite is when people tattoo biblical quotes on their body it's like you're really not supposed to do that.

[1334] Like it says it in the Bible you're not supposed to get a tattoo.

[1335] And like, yeah, but I don't think Jesus meant it that much.

[1336] I also think it might fall under the first commandant or is the second about, thou shalt not have graven images.

[1337] You should not have representations of God.

[1338] And I think by extension, why do we have fucking crosses with Jesus hanging off the wall of the church?

[1339] Isn't that kind of covered by extension on the second commandment?

[1340] Do we want to see his fucking bloody corpse?

[1341] It's a very strange practice.

[1342] to look at that all the time, you know, and the idea that you're being reminded of the deity, the one perfect being that existed, oh, thousands of years ago.

[1343] Yeah.

[1344] And since then, his followers have reverted to pedophilia and fucking craziness and fear.

[1345] Yeah.

[1346] I know this comic that has a cross on his arm, and I don't, I'm not friends with him, but he always wears, like, like those, like, elastic band things on his arm, just to cover it up so no one knows.

[1347] Oh, really?

[1348] That's funny.

[1349] Why doesn't he get it removed?

[1350] I don't know.

[1351] Yeah, get a cover -up.

[1352] Maybe he still likes it.

[1353] He's just hiding it from comics.

[1354] Oh, well, it could be that.

[1355] Some people get ashamed of being religious.

[1356] A lot of fighters get religious.

[1357] It's like he gives him something to really lean back on, you know, something to give him strength.

[1358] And, you know, I've always said that I don't have any fucking idea whether there's a God.

[1359] I'm not a religious person, but I leave anything up to the idea of possible.

[1360] I think anything could be possible anything well it depends on your definition of God but to think that there's not some power that orchestrated the miracle of you know like we's regenerating DNA all that shit you know to think that there's not something that can tell you that I know how big the moon is going to be at what point in the sky and fucking 50 years and be right you know give me a fucking break of course whatever you want to call that I think that I always just default to nature is God and fill in the details later when I know more.

[1361] Well, it could very well be that there is an intelligence to all of nature that we're just not capable of tuning into.

[1362] It could very well be the trees and all sorts of different parts of nature have some sort of intelligence.

[1363] It doesn't translate into words, doesn't translate into certain noises that we recognize with certain images and certain meanings.

[1364] It could be some other form.

[1365] of intelligence.

[1366] It's super possible that the reason why, you know, we exist in this ever -changing world and this world is, you know, being more and more hostile to people is that it kind of recognizes us as a threat.

[1367] You know, if you have to think of this system has got to be prepared for everything, okay, there's a reason why certain, you know, animals eat other animals and certain diseases kill certain percentages of the people.

[1368] There's like this crazy corrective system that goes on on Earth.

[1369] And we agree with that up until it gets to people.

[1370] We don't ever want to think that Earth could ever look at us like we might be some fucking cold that it has and that the more we pull the fucking fish out of the ocean and throw our garbage in it.

[1371] And the more we pollute the sky and change the temperature of it and fuck the whole balance of it up and artificially change the levels of certain things in the environment.

[1372] We should expect that the Earth is going to respond to this change accordingly.

[1373] It's going to try to push back.

[1374] I mean, if it is intelligent, if there's some real method to the whole idea of this whole thing evolving from a hot ball of rock and lava.

[1375] And then somehow, I know they're acquiring water and somehow another cooling down and rolling up.

[1376] Just extrapolating into more matters, more elements and more light forms.

[1377] You just keep going and going and going.

[1378] and it's all it's you know and it goes back to like turn of the 19th century there was a lot of so social scientists in england mills talked about population naturally controls itself wars disease that there is an actual healthy number of people to be on the earth and because of science we've been able to just completely fucking hyper bloat that number of people to the point where we've staved off a natural correction.

[1379] We haven't had war, any real war, in a long time.

[1380] We haven't had any fucking plague in a long time.

[1381] You know, the plague in 19, during World War I, 1970, killed one out of three people in Europe, including, well, the war and the plague together.

[1382] And, you know, if we had that now, people, they'd lose the shit.

[1383] People can't even imagine a devastation.

[1384] They don't think it's possible, whereas numerically, it's beyond possible.

[1385] It's way overdue.

[1386] Well, there was a super volcano warning today.

[1387] Somewhere.

[1388] God, I want to say it.

[1389] I want to say it.

[1390] That's hilarious.

[1391] I want to say somewhere in the South Pacific.

[1392] I don't really remember.

[1393] But there was a warning not to travel to this particular area because there's been some volcanic activity.

[1394] Maybe someone will let me know what the fuck it is on Twitter.

[1395] Wow.

[1396] But we had a couple earthquakes in California last week.

[1397] With hundreds, right?

[1398] Wasn't there hundreds?

[1399] No shit.

[1400] Yeah.

[1401] Well, there's an area in Yellowstone where they have thousands of earthquakes a year.

[1402] Thousands.

[1403] You sure that's not just Yogi Bear chasing that for picking -nick -a -Beskits?

[1404] Hey, boo -boo!

[1405] Oh, boo -boo.

[1406] What is that?

[1407] Another guy got killed by a bear in Alaska.

[1408] And that's where you're going.

[1409] Yes, my friend.

[1410] Into the heart of darkness.

[1411] The guy who got killed by the bear was out there photographing it, standing near it, way closer than what they tell you to.

[1412] He was within 50 yards.

[1413] Like, you should never get within 50 yards.

[1414] 50 yards?

[1415] That seems far.

[1416] Yep.

[1417] Yeah, you should be far as fuck.

[1418] Yeah, you shouldn't be close.

[1419] Because most likely you'll be fine.

[1420] But if you get too close to a bear and he decides for whatever reason that he hasn't eaten in a while and you might see if you're edible, if he's desperate, you can catch a desperate bear.

[1421] Especially late in the year, like when it gets close to like December.

[1422] You know, some of those bears are still walking around.

[1423] Those are the dangerous ones because they're not stuffed yet.

[1424] They're not ready to hibernate.

[1425] That's how that grizzly man guy got got.

[1426] Yeah.

[1427] He went wandering around out there after it was like postseason when they were the most of the healthy bears were already in harbination.

[1428] It's like being in Fanio Hall at two in the morning when the bars get out.

[1429] Exactly.

[1430] If you're not home, you're dangerous.

[1431] Last chance.

[1432] Last chance for romance.

[1433] You didn't get laid and now you're going to look for a fight.

[1434] That's what would happen at 2 .15.

[1435] That one little, what is it, a fast food place?

[1436] Is it a McDonald's that's that's on the corner of that?

[1437] It was by that hotel that we used to stay at We'd go to Fanio Hall Remember that place?

[1438] We worked at the comedy connection It was a chain I remember the club But like, No, Wendy's, it was a Wendy's.

[1439] It was McDonald's.

[1440] Ari and Brian And Brian walked there And almost got in a fight Yeah, like twice And just waiting in line Everywhere I go I was, you know, I didn't like Boston The first like three, two times We went there Because we kept on going to that comedy club In that area It's the, well they call it the combat so it's like one bad block in the whole city awful and then we the last one we went somewhere else we stayed in this really nice hotel and they were filming a movie and there's all these actors in it but it was like a totally different experience it was like being in New York on it yeah we were we were at the connection in Fania Hall it wasn't in the comment so it wasn't next but the connection was uh yeah the the the Wilbur is actually like it's a way cooler set you know it's a beautiful environment and everything like that but that area is not it's not the dangerous area it was when we were doing stand -up like people don't understand the fucking they have like a four seasons there now you know it's it's a gorgeous area when we were coming up and stand up it was the combat zone you would walk over there there would be hookers it was scary you'd see people smoking crack you would see peep show booths and they slowly squeezed all that shit out that was like our one seedy area i remember i could always park on the street because nobody would park on the street that's why i had a piece of shit because your my window got smashed so many fucking times you were you were just used to it yeah that area around nix man you got your fucking car got broken into all the time unless you got a spot on that street warrenton street when you would go around that little side area where the connection was the old connection and go down to the end where nix was every now and then you catch a spot you get super fucking lucky yeah but that whole area is a gay bar now do do do is it a techno gay poppers uh yeah how much was the It became like a really hot game.

[1441] They let me in frame, bro.

[1442] They're fucking famous.

[1443] Let me get in the back door.

[1444] You went with the back door line, Fitzhimmons, Jesus.

[1445] But, yeah, that area, at one point in time, there was two comedy clubs in the same theater where the same area where the connection was.

[1446] There was the connection, and then above it, Mike Clark had a place.

[1447] Remember that?

[1448] I don't remember Mike Clark's place.

[1449] Yeah, he had some sort of a comedy.

[1450] club it wasn't for a long time it was in the same theater that they used to do they had like some long ass running show one of those fucking oh you're talking about above the original comedy connection oh yeah yeah upstairs they had some kind of a nuns you know one of those nuns on the run or some fucking shit nonsense I think that's sad nonsense non sanity and then down the street you had Knicks which had three different rooms this is 50 yards away yeah 50 yards away they had an upstairs and then they had two downstairs one smaller room, and then one that was like a disco.

[1451] You remember the disco room that didn't really make it?

[1452] They got rid of the disco after a while.

[1453] It was like too crazy.

[1454] But guys would do that.

[1455] And then across the street, there was the fucking Duck Soup.

[1456] At what's now the Wilbur Theater?

[1457] Duck Soup was the idea of Billy Downs and Paul Barkley had this idea to put a super upscale comedy club and put it in Boston right there and charge more money and have only clean comedians.

[1458] And it didn't work.

[1459] It didn't work.

[1460] But then you're forgetting Dick Dardy had a room if you walked then across the street and through a mini mall there was the comedy vault which had been a bank.

[1461] Yes.

[1462] And the fucking room was the vault was still there.

[1463] And you would stand in this little fucking room that was a bank and it was a sweet little room.

[1464] It's great room.

[1465] But I mean, so you're talking about within literally within a quarter of a mile you had three, four, five, six comedy rooms and they were all good.

[1466] yeah it's ridiculous we're becoming those those annoying old dudes who keep repeating stories about the glory days yeah but what people don't understand is just how that's by the way that's a meme what people don't understand because i always say that when i don't know exactly what i'm saying next is that the the scene was just to us now today looking back on it as you know you see what's around today it's so it was such a spectacular scene it was just the most amazing scene for like developing as a comedian well you look at like, did you read the book Outliers?

[1467] No. It's this book about how people like Bill Gates came about at a certain time.

[1468] They had a certain gift that wasn't necessarily a good thing.

[1469] Like, I think Gates is mildly aspergery.

[1470] He was born in the Santa Cruz area, just as the tech thing was exploding.

[1471] And he used, I think it was Santa Cruz, whatever the UC College had the first, like, mainframe computer.

[1472] As a teenager, he was going in there and writing programs.

[1473] Wow.

[1474] So he was at the.

[1475] beginning of a wave with the exact personality type and he carried it through and became something that you can't do again.

[1476] And like Howard Stern was an outlier with radio.

[1477] He became the guy who did all the things you weren't supposed to do in radio.

[1478] Bad mouth other people.

[1479] Be dirty.

[1480] Self -aggrandize and all of a sudden this wave of syndication of radio stations came about and he fucking caught that wave and took and with talent.

[1481] This is talent God -given fucking you know a weird recipe for what matches the demands of that time and being in front of the explosion that happens.

[1482] And I believe that we were very much in the outlier spot of stand -up comedy by being in Boston at that time.

[1483] It was a very unusual environment, for sure.

[1484] It's sad that it doesn't exist anymore.

[1485] It's when Fran Salamita put out that documentary when stand -up stood out.

[1486] And it's really interesting, but I think he kind of nailed it, is that the scene was fantastic until people started making it.

[1487] When everybody just wanted to be funny...

[1488] You were one of the first ones.

[1489] no no yeah i remember joe rogan because everybody's back there going but you hear joe joe moves in here dude he's he gets to do the prom shows at danger fields that was literally like people were like holy shit well i'm just saying in steps and then joe rogan just signed with uh uh what jeffsuffman then all said joe rogan just got a hundred thousand dollar deal with disney and we knew every detail of your fucking career because nobody had done that before nobody from our class had gone anywhere really except like you I remember Bud Friedman came to Boston and did a showcase to do evening at the improv.

[1490] And it was like for months we were fucking obsessed with our set.

[1491] And a couple people got it out of it.

[1492] And that was our closest brush to show business until you all of a sudden got on this fucking track.

[1493] And it was like, wow, you can do that from this?

[1494] So you ruined everything that was real.

[1495] Well, everybody thought for some reason that the only way you would ever get on TV is if you were clean.

[1496] and I thought the only way I would ever want to do comedy is if I was funny so I knew I wasn't good and because I wasn't good my dirty comedy wasn't it was unbearable because it's like not is it just not is it offensive not only is it offensive but it's also bad it's bad and offensive which is like way worse yeah yeah well in the beginning I think I think you know it took a while for me to figure out how to do it right how to do shit that I actually thought was funny yeah but I knew I could never do it clean I just wasn't going to try.

[1497] I just was like, nope, I just, I, I, I, I'll scratch together some little five -minute sets here and there, but that seems crazy.

[1498] Like, why wouldn't I do that?

[1499] Why would I limit what I'm thinking about?

[1500] It just seems like that's like step one to fucking yourself, you know?

[1501] But I just got lucky that it worked.

[1502] It didn't have to work.

[1503] It could have skid off into the fucking woods and I could have become some kind of a road drunk.

[1504] That's the thing about that time, though.

[1505] There was no roadmap for it.

[1506] And that's what an outlier is.

[1507] It's like you're the, you're a pioneer in the sense that you're breaking the, rules and yet you're rising up faster than anybody else because things change and there becomes the needs and the demands of the marketplace for whatever it is you do they change very quickly they're dynamic and the and it's why we have the you know variation in species it's darwinism yeah and it's i've also felt like when when anything happens to you that's good then you actually believe that good things can happen so for me it's like believing that something good can happen.

[1508] All I could think of was, well, you know, if I keep working at this, more good things can happen.

[1509] Like, I'm on a role, and I don't want to stop this role.

[1510] And so I think, you know, when you're a young guy and, you know, your life has been like kind of like half sketchy, filled with a lot of fucking failures, all relationship failures, all, like, all just different failures that you go through.

[1511] And then you're on stage and you're trying to do comedy, like just trying to make sense of that aspect of your past.

[1512] When you look back on your life of being an open micer and the wild experience of trying to fucking do that for a living, it doesn't even feel like it's you, does it?

[1513] I mean, doesn't it feel like it's a lie?

[1514] You know, it feels like you're accessing memories that were copied a hundred times over, and they're real shitty, and you're like, I think it was this guy, Larry Rapucci?

[1515] Yeah, yeah, Larry Rapucci, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1516] Yeah, and I think I wore shirts that had zippers going down the arms, and I think I had a mullet, and I think I did a joke about what I do when girls are blowing me. And I also look at it like limitless fucking energy and passion.

[1517] I would tape every set, rewrite it.

[1518] I would fucking drive me and you.

[1519] We would drive all over the fucking place.

[1520] There was no limit.

[1521] And then I'd get up at the crack of dawn and do fucking banquet waitering, and then I would go audition for some cold call bullshit downtown.

[1522] I mean, there was not.

[1523] like now where I got to pace myself pick my battles back then it was no every fucking battle I'm in yeah and somewhere along the line I think as a stand -up comedian you forget that this was a terrifying time like those times that you talk about were terrifying but might have been the most exciting moments of your life yeah you know I mean the the first couple of sets that you do that are good that feeling when you're like holy fucking shit I think I'm on to something and then you become obsessed.

[1524] Do you want to write things down everywhere you go?

[1525] Because I went to college, and to me it was like, I was told what to do and how to think for four years.

[1526] There were tests on a set of information I was supposed to learn and internalize and believe.

[1527] Then you're going to stand up, and it's a blank slate.

[1528] It's what do you think?

[1529] What do you believe?

[1530] And you make that work.

[1531] And all of a sudden, I felt in a way like that made me grow up in six months more than I did in four years in college because it was all my creation.

[1532] Yeah.

[1533] Yeah.

[1534] Well, that's one of the most important things about, you know, really finding yourself is putting something down and then being able to look at it and go, I fucking, I got that.

[1535] I did that.

[1536] I got, this is an actual thing that I did.

[1537] Yeah.

[1538] Like, here it is.

[1539] I put it down.

[1540] And then you can move on from it.

[1541] So easy.

[1542] So much more easy.

[1543] You get more momentum.

[1544] Yeah.

[1545] Did you ever read The War of Art and Stephen Pressfield book?

[1546] What's it called?

[1547] The War of Art?

[1548] No, you told me about that once.

[1549] Dude, I got a copy for you.

[1550] Yeah?

[1551] Yeah, Brian, reach out of that thing.

[1552] By the way, I want to, on the air thank Joe Rogan for one of the best gifts I've gotten in the last fucking ten years.

[1553] A beautiful, I'm going to mispronounce the name.

[1554] Ariel Carmelie.

[1555] Ariel Carmelie Pool, and I am a pool fanatic my whole life, and I haven't had a pool queue in about 15 years.

[1556] They're under that shelf, Brian, down there.

[1557] There's two books.

[1558] stuff.

[1559] See him?

[1560] It's the war of art. They're in the corner.

[1561] Can you reach it or no?

[1562] No. You yoga doing, bitch?

[1563] I don't even see him.

[1564] All right, I'll give it to you after a show.

[1565] Remind me. They're right there.

[1566] He just can't reach over.

[1567] He's impossible.

[1568] I'm impossible.

[1569] I'm impossible.

[1570] If there was a cock down there, you can't reach over.

[1571] Oh, yeah, he would already be sucking it.

[1572] Yeah.

[1573] He'd already be...

[1574] No, Brian, it's okay.

[1575] Don't get it.

[1576] It's no need.

[1577] No, no, it's no big deal.

[1578] You see it?

[1579] For real.

[1580] That was the most passive, aggressive thing I've ever.

[1581] it's on the other side right it's all right man just leave it there yeah don't worry about it totally cool with it really happy with you it's no big deal I mean it's just right next to you no no no there you go that's the book I bought a bunch of copies just to give it to people like it's got dust all over it yep I love it break through the blocks and win your intercreative battles fuck yeah it's a great book all right I love it's a great book for creativity and sort of getting past the roadblocks of procrastination.

[1582] Oh, fuck.

[1583] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1584] Somebody showed me this once before.

[1585] Very interesting work.

[1586] It's stuff you kind of read and then meditate on each thing.

[1587] Yeah, well, you know, it's an ethic.

[1588] The guy provides an ethic and he's got a new one called Turning Pro, which is just as good.

[1589] I just got into that.

[1590] But he's a very inspirational dude.

[1591] You know, I love hearing about dudes who work really hard.

[1592] I don't like hearing about guys who become crazy and become obsessed and become unhealthy like they work too much.

[1593] But I like hearing about dudes who have like a great work ethic.

[1594] Like whenever I hear about Louis CK putting out a new hour every year.

[1595] I always like, I love hearing that.

[1596] That's inspirational to me. I feel like I get like some energy out of that.

[1597] Like, ooh, like there's I think it's too much.

[1598] It's too much for me. It turned out I did, I did mine and I did another one in a little less than two years.

[1599] And that's why I was doing like a lot of the UFC stuff as well.

[1600] I do less UFC stuff now than I did before.

[1601] So it was why I was doing that.

[1602] But I still feel like I like to have a bit around for a while like I put some stuff.

[1603] Your bits are fucking thick too.

[1604] I mean it's not like you write a freestanding joke then have to write another, I mean you find something and you explore it and you extend it and then by the end you got a chunk that's 10 minutes so you string together six of those you got an hour.

[1605] And I you know I know there's like more life to shit sometimes but it's like I put some stuff on a special before and then right after it's saying you're like oh you motherfucker the The punch line of punchline comes out.

[1606] You know, the tagline that changes the whole bit.

[1607] Dana Gould just gave me a tagline that took a bit that was already killing and doubled it.

[1608] Really?

[1609] I got this bit about how we waste water in this country, how we just have fun with it.

[1610] It's like a joke.

[1611] We have water parks.

[1612] We have fountains which just shoot water in the air like, fuck you, look at all this water.

[1613] And then Dana's tagline was.

[1614] And then what do we do?

[1615] We take money we don't need and we throw it in the fountain.

[1616] Wow.

[1617] And on top of always killing that tagline just.

[1618] like instant applause break.

[1619] It's so true.

[1620] That's a perfect like description of like ridiculous opulence, a giant fountain.

[1621] Like one of those people, you get dipping, get your feet in, sit in front, talk.

[1622] There's like a kid with a pot in his lap and it's like he's pissing.

[1623] You ever see those?

[1624] Pissing out of it.

[1625] I saw a house in Montecito once, you know, out in Santa Barbara.

[1626] Yeah.

[1627] That was, uh, these people had like, they must have owned a museum or some shit.

[1628] But they had a fountain that was so big, they converted it into a swimming.

[1629] pool was fucking huge this huge gorgeous fountain was a swimming pool these people had like three fountains yeah this house was ridiculous like that monocito area of santa barbara is like some of the most gorgeous houses like you've ever seen in your life oh hell yeah perfect weather all year round they're looking over the ocean you're like holy shit anytime i'm in that part of the world you go down below san francisco they got a thing called the seven mile drive which is where like pebble beach golf club is oh yeah and i really do think that there is not a more beautiful place i mean i haven't into like Tuscany.

[1630] I'm sure there's places but I feel like you can actually afford to live in a place along the code, the jagged California coast where the weather's fucking perfect all the time it's just peaceful people and I sort of feel like why not do that?

[1631] Teach school What are you doing?

[1632] Living in a fucking movie we're going to learn how to bake bread I lost it there for a second.

[1633] You're faking shit son.

[1634] That's crazy but there are some places like Carmel like you've ever been to where Clint Eastwood was the mayor.

[1635] Carmel is right below where I'm talking about Oh, is it right below that?

[1636] Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right there.

[1637] So, fucking beautiful.

[1638] Yeah.

[1639] So beautiful, you can hardly believe it.

[1640] That's a cool fucking town.

[1641] It's all, like, art galleries and, like, cafes that are fucking, you know, international.

[1642] And it's bad.

[1643] I mean, but it's one of those things where hope you like white people, because that's all we got here.

[1644] Rich white people.

[1645] Yeah, that's a real white town, right?

[1646] Old white people.

[1647] And it's a Republican.

[1648] It's all like old Clint Eastwood types.

[1649] Yeah.

[1650] Yeah.

[1651] He said some crazy shit at the Republican.

[1652] Oh, he's losing his marbles for sure, right?

[1653] Well, it's like, it's tough because.

[1654] those John Wayne type guys, they come from an era where, you know, men were manly and it was simple and it was black and white.

[1655] And it's just a different world now.

[1656] And you try to, you, you can't shake.

[1657] Cliniques was not going to not be that guy, but the times dictate a different, more layered approach to things.

[1658] I think he's missing a substantial amount of what he used to have as a young man as far as his intuition on how to do things correctly.

[1659] He just doesn't seem, he didn't see him there.

[1660] It seemed like a big struggle to me. That whole thing where he's bringing in John Voigt.

[1661] Help me, John.

[1662] I can't be up here by myself.

[1663] Yeah.

[1664] There was something weird about it.

[1665] You know, just all the crazy talk about him being a conservative and conservatives and we just try to, you know, play our cards closer to our vest.

[1666] Like, what are you getting wrapped up with?

[1667] Do you really believe this narrative?

[1668] Do you really believe this?

[1669] Or are you actually paying attention to what you're supporting by being there pretending to talk to a chair?

[1670] like if you talk to the president like that he should beat the fuck out of you yeah he should box your ears who the fuck are you to talk to the president like that it's incredibly disrespectful that whole fucking thing was just negating none of it was putting out here's our real here's our plan for the economic recovery specifically all it was was tax cuts and more shit we're going to give you stuff that adds up to negative and yet they're selling it by by basically dismantling what already existed like everything was a negation that was There's no positive energy about it.

[1671] Yeah, it's a weird thing to watch this all play out, to watch this Mitt Romney guy and to see this whole situation.

[1672] It's really weird.

[1673] It's weird.

[1674] It's weird to watch it play out, man. This Paul Ryan dude has already been busted lying on all sorts of shit.

[1675] He said he ran a marathon in less than three hours.

[1676] Yep.

[1677] That's like world class.

[1678] They timed it and it was four hours.

[1679] Over four hours.

[1680] Over four hours.

[1681] Yeah, the New Yorker did this piece last month.

[1682] about this guy who was a serial marathon liar and he had a website about raising money for kids with fucking Down syndrome and support him.

[1683] This guy is a dentist in a small town in Michigan who everybody loves and he's got this whole reputation about being this marathon runner who's going to run in all 48 states in the continental U .S. And he's going to do a marathon on each one and he's going to post his results.

[1684] Well, there started to be a couple questions about that he hadn't, there was no pictures of him in the middle of certain races.

[1685] Right.

[1686] And there is a fearsome marathon contingent that tracks every single marathon.

[1687] One of the things they have is there's chips, and you have to hit, I think, three chips during the race to prevent the Rosie Ruiz thing.

[1688] Right, from someone jumping in a car and then someone pushes him.

[1689] So they went back and they looked at the chips.

[1690] He fucking hit all of his chips in every one, but then there's pictures of him in different outfits.

[1691] There's races where there's no picture.

[1692] There was one race he actually made up.

[1693] he just made up a race he posted that he wanted to have a San Jose Marathon nobody responded so so he posted 10 people that finished in a certain time made up the names put him on the website and had him as the winner oh that's hilarious so he so anyway they unraveled it and it was just more like it was the piece was just about how people can get what is it called when you lie and you have no you have no guilt about it sociopath yeah sociopath like this is a sociopath about marath everything else in his life was totally fucking straight up good guy except this crazy and so the point being there was a very clear record with Paul Ryan of how long there's no discrepancy there's no you know he absolutely ran it in four hours and ten minutes and said that's still pretty fucking good really they say that's average I think that's pretty good for a guy that looks like that it's like an 11 minute mile I'm amazed he didn't quit quit the marathon Yeah, amazed he made it through.

[1694] It's a hard thing to do.

[1695] I'm amazed when anybody runs 26 miles.

[1696] But why lie about the time when four hours sounds still pretty fucking good?

[1697] He's trying to pretend like he's like a super athlete.

[1698] Well, that's the problem, is that if he lies about that, to me, it's a character thing.

[1699] Period.

[1700] If he's a lie about that, what else is he going to lie about?

[1701] His numbers for the economy are a fucking joke.

[1702] They've been debunked by bipartisan committees in Congress because he introduced this whole new economic recovery plan and it was looked at and they said this is horse shit this does not add up but he had every republican lined up because he was the new hot shit in in congress when he came in as a junior senator what is his strategy or his philosophy that he's going to do that's different what was his idea well it's real and rand is this guy so it's pure free market there's no regulations and uh you the you know the it's letting capitalism basically dictate everything.

[1703] And it's about getting rid of the safety net entirely.

[1704] He wants to take apart Medicare.

[1705] He wants the entire new health care program taken away.

[1706] He wants to privatize Social Security, which again has been shown in study after study after study is a worst case scenario.

[1707] You're taking a fund of money that people have paid into with a very nominal broker with a service fee, you know, built into a 0 .04 % or whatever.

[1708] And you're saying, okay, everyone grabbed theirs, give it to a broker who's going to take 5%.

[1709] You're bloating this one industry because they've lobbied you.

[1710] That's all this is about.

[1711] Banks want to be able to get their hands on this money and crank up commissions in making the investments for you.

[1712] That's all this boils down to.

[1713] I ran into a dude at one of my shows who was an Iraq war veteran, and he went in.

[1714] He actually volunteered for the Army, and then right after he volunteered, I don't remember which branch.

[1715] I said the Army, I might be wrong, but right after he, I think it was actually the Air Force, right after he volunteered, 9 -11 happened.

[1716] So right afterwards, he's going to war.

[1717] And he'd said that one of the first things that the United States government did was they printed Iraqi money, just fucking crazy amounts of it, and just flooded the market with fake money.

[1718] And that's how you crush an economy.

[1719] Is that amazing?

[1720] Like, if they wanted to crush our economy, they would just put millions and millions of dollars like in the streets.

[1721] and people would go crazy and run out and buy Ferraris, Ferraris would be worth nothing.

[1722] You think that happened here?

[1723] Could it happen here?

[1724] Yes, look, the economy is not based on anything.

[1725] That's what the idea of a gold standard, that's where it's supposed to make some sense.

[1726] And the idea, though, that you're going to be able to make something like a dollar bill that can't be reproduced by somebody with nefarious means.

[1727] Of course they're going to be able to figure that out, man. As technology gets better, they're not going to be able to hold off that whole print and press thing.

[1728] People are going to figure out how to make money.

[1729] To this day, the, I forget what the Iraqi currency is, but...

[1730] The Dinar, I think?

[1731] Yes, exactly.

[1732] It is the lowest rated currency on the planet.

[1733] It's like $100 ,000 per $1.

[1734] What do you do then?

[1735] You have to start from scratch.

[1736] You have to start the whole civilization from scratch.

[1737] Well, you've got to go to the gold standard.

[1738] I mean, you've got to find something to tether it to.

[1739] Yeah, and then by then, the military's in the streets, and you're fucked out.

[1740] I just scramble.

[1741] Yeah.

[1742] And you know what's amazing is you're talking about messaging.

[1743] Spatamia.

[1744] You're talking about the most fertile, the origins of all civilization, and it's a fuck zone.

[1745] It's amazing.

[1746] Well, I think they're the townies of the world.

[1747] I think that's what it is.

[1748] They just been around too long?

[1749] Yeah.

[1750] That's where civilization was invented.

[1751] So that that area is all the same assholes who developed their civilization six thousand years ago.

[1752] They just stayed.

[1753] Everybody else is like, these people are fucking crazy.

[1754] They're throwing rocks and people for dancing let's get out of here so every other civilization branched off from that one part they stayed they got yeah they got two store i got a double deca i'm fucking rent mouthy upstairs to my parents do you um when you go back to ohio do you relate to townies or do you think that ohio's like a better place to live do you go back and forth but i mean if i could have a humongous house and you know and people live great there they everyone has my sister has two kids works as a hairstylists, but she has a huge house and a huge yard.

[1755] So it just seems easier and more comfortable.

[1756] It's not as stressful.

[1757] It's not.

[1758] It's weird how much variation there is in areas where you could buy a house.

[1759] Variation and the money.

[1760] Like, you know, what you can get.

[1761] And, you know, another thing was, is like, when you walk to your car at night and when you do certain things, you automatically feel safe out there.

[1762] Like, you could just sit there and just have money in both of your hands and walk to your car after going to a movie and no one will give a shit.

[1763] Do you remember that dude from that video that you made, the dude who went to one of your best videos, by the way, the heckler, the drunk heckler and Columbus?

[1764] Yeah, yeah.

[1765] Remember that one?

[1766] Yeah.

[1767] Dude, that was, first of all, that was an awesome video you made because the way you edited it was so funny.

[1768] It was just, the dude was so ridiculous, but we missed the best part of the story.

[1769] Because this guy who had his shirt off in my comedy show, screaming, yell.

[1770] Oh, shit.

[1771] Yeah, yeah, I came on stage and I hugged him.

[1772] It was like the most ridiculous.

[1773] shit of all time who's just like so hammered he was so crazy we ran into him at the end of the night face covered in blood shirtless just somebody beat the fuck out of this guy and i looked at him and i looked at i'm all sorry dude yeah we didn't we didn't fucking film it no one had anything on us we're like shit yeah i saw this dude i was in um i was in san jose you ever do that fucking club in san jose the improv yeah oh yeah fucking amazing i was supposed to do it sometime soon But the show got moved I was going to do the Friday night before a UFC.

[1774] That place is like a 500 -year -old ancient theater.

[1775] 1903, Charlie Chaplin performed there.

[1776] And the acoustics, you don't even mean a microphone.

[1777] It's going to make 500 years old.

[1778] I'm just making shit up.

[1779] There weren't people in California 500 years ago, stupid.

[1780] I know.

[1781] What were the Aztecs doing a stand -up show?

[1782] Isn't that weird that just 500 years ago, there was no people?

[1783] And you go to Europe and, like, talk about Iraq.

[1784] It's like, that's a history.

[1785] Yeah, that's San Jose Am, is one of the most beautiful interiors, like the inside.

[1786] And the feel of it, like, it feels like a seasoned performance room.

[1787] Yeah, it's like a well -worn room.

[1788] And the guy that runs a gym is fucking treated me great.

[1789] Anyway.

[1790] Professional bowler.

[1791] Yes.

[1792] He's a bad motherfucker.

[1793] Yeah.

[1794] He was a Vietnam vet, too.

[1795] Good, dude, too.

[1796] Yeah, yeah.

[1797] He goes bowling and just fucks people up, apparently.

[1798] Apparently, he's, like, legit, world -class bowler.

[1799] And he'll go to Vegas, and people gamble in Vegas.

[1800] You know, they get crazy.

[1801] They're out there on vacation.

[1802] Let's go bowl a few frames.

[1803] They start talking shit and, you know, he comes over and he knows how to hustle him too.

[1804] He knows how to play their ego and he starts getting involved in a big gambling with some knuckleheads.

[1805] And he's come back with like sick money from gambling in Vegas.

[1806] Yeah.

[1807] And he's such a fucking cool guy.

[1808] Just unabashedly, the real deal.

[1809] Just a cool guy.

[1810] Yeah, he's, uh, and you know, he got, fuck, man. He went to Vietnam for three and a half years, came back, did his 21 years in the Navy.

[1811] and now he's like, yeah, I get $120 a month and fucking benefit.

[1812] He goes, they cut all the benefits that you're promised, including like going to the VA hospital to get your glasses, dental, all that shit's gone.

[1813] How can they do that?

[1814] That's my, what the fuck?

[1815] You go to war, you put your life on the line for the country.

[1816] You are fucking taking care of, period.

[1817] That is the biggest travesty happening right now.

[1818] We had to do some UFC fights.

[1819] We did it for this Institute for, traumatic brain injury, I believe it's called.

[1820] It was they're building some huge things, so they had to raise money for it.

[1821] So the UFC fights raised a lot of money for it.

[1822] But one of the things I was thinking was, how crazy is it that there's these billion -dollar deals that these people like Halliburton or these companies, rather like Halliburton, get a billion -dollar deals.

[1823] And in it, somehow or another, is not the money for these rehabilitation centers.

[1824] Like, that's insane.

[1825] The fact that they can profit off the war and not be giving anything back in the form of some, at least, you know, do what a charity's doing.

[1826] At least do that.

[1827] I mean, you're profiting from it.

[1828] The charity's just stepping in.

[1829] That's exactly why it's privatized because the U .S. government allows itself to be buffered from, number one, if there's a rape overseas, it does not get processed in U .S. courts.

[1830] They've got all illegal people working the jobs.

[1831] They tell these girls in the Philippines, the Halliburton does, through another agency, that they're going to get a job doing hairstyling and they're going to make 40 grand.

[1832] a year.

[1833] They take them off and they're working at fucking Burger King in the mid -east sleeping in fucking tankers and paying off the money they had to pay to get over there for like five or six years before they make a dollar.

[1834] That's slavery.

[1835] Yeah, it's fucking slavery.

[1836] It's slavery where they just they have it written down somewhere so it's like okay to do.

[1837] Somehow or another it's okay.

[1838] Because it's not the U .S. government because the U .S. government is subcontracting to Halliburton so that any kind of any kind of lawsuits to come in they don't touch the U .S. government and so they're not paying out to the soldiers because they have no real relationship to them.

[1839] They figured out a way to do slavery without chains just make it so they can't leave.

[1840] You might lose one or two every now and then but you can get them back, you can get different ones.

[1841] And it's a terrifying sort of a situation, but that's like a lot of what's going on apparently in parts of the Middle East, in like Dubai.

[1842] I've heard that had gone on and some construction sites I think, didn't Vice do a special on that, Brian?

[1843] I don't know.

[1844] Dubai brings in people from, I don't know, I can't remember what country it is, but they bring them in on these, they're not even, they're like work visas that are like a week long.

[1845] And the second you're done with your work, you're gone.

[1846] It's just, you don't earn your way in.

[1847] And so it's something like, you know, three quarters of the workforce is not from that country.

[1848] And they just have these sprawling fucking camps that people live in.

[1849] and they kick them out as soon as they're on instantly.

[1850] No coverage in accidents whatsoever.

[1851] It's barbaric.

[1852] It's fucked up too because, again, we're talking about the townies of the world.

[1853] So they really still are rocking it the same way they did a thousand years ago or several thousand years ago.

[1854] They really are rocking it like that.

[1855] They're just rocking it like that behind the rules.

[1856] I mean, they really do still have kings.

[1857] And there was some piece on that dude who we had, Brian, on the point.

[1858] podcast the other day.

[1859] David Seaman, he had something, that's his real name.

[1860] Powerful dude, though.

[1861] He's a great guy.

[1862] That is his real name.

[1863] And there was something that he had on his Twitter page that showed how CNN had some stories about the Arab Spring uprising in Bahrain, and they decided not to air it.

[1864] And apparently Bahrain is fucked up, man. People started to make YouTube videos of it and put them online because there's not enough interest.

[1865] in, you know, there's so many, everyone's aware of Saudi Arabia, everyone's aware of, you know, what's happened in Egypt, everyone's aware of Libya, but a lot of people are not aware of Bahrain, so they're still trying to keep this one locked down and while everything else is going on.

[1866] But there's some horrific fucking footage, man. And it's just government -controlled media.

[1867] Yeah, man, they're gunning people down.

[1868] They're trying to stop a civil uprising.

[1869] No shit.

[1870] It's horrific stuff, man. Yeah.

[1871] Horrific stuff.

[1872] And there's really graphic videos available online.

[1873] And our interest in the average spring ended about a year ago.

[1874] People don't even.

[1875] know what's going on Syria's worse than any of it and people aren't even fucking tracking that because it's like we we already had Egypt we already had Libya we've got our fill what people don't understand is the apocalypse is here it just hasn't reached California but the apocalypse if you're in Bahrain that's the apocalypse if friends are getting their heads blown off right next to you by sniper rifles that's the apocalypse I mean this is a civil war people are dying in the street the government is gunning down civilians I mean it's craziness But what about the places that, like Egypt, that now has democratically elected?

[1876] Do they really?

[1877] Isn't it the Muslim Brotherhood?

[1878] Yeah, they were voted in though.

[1879] And you know what?

[1880] They're not as bad as people think.

[1881] As they say, the sound rather, they sound scary.

[1882] You know what, though?

[1883] It's one of those things where they're going to sneak it in.

[1884] They get in office, everything's cool.

[1885] Everybody gets to Turkey at Thanksgiving.

[1886] Two years later, the women are all in fucking potato sacks.

[1887] I wonder how much long that's going to work with the Internet.

[1888] With the distribution of information that we have right now, it's harder and harder to convince kids of nonsense.

[1889] It's harder and harder.

[1890] It's just not the same sort of animal that was around when we grew up.

[1891] When we grew up even if you didn't believe in God, if it made no sense, you hedged your bet.

[1892] You went along with everything and you know, if it is real, I did all that shit I was supposed to do.

[1893] Even if you don't have a whole ton of faith in it, you don't have the kind of access to it, or we didn't rather have the kind of access to information the kids have today.

[1894] Because if they have a question about anything, why is the sky blue?

[1895] They Google, why is the sky blue?

[1896] I mean, kids just are growing up doing that now.

[1897] So if they ever have a question, can't just bullshit them.

[1898] Yeah, but you're assuming the internet stays as free as it is now.

[1899] I mean, just by saying Google, you know, so many people get their information from two portals.

[1900] You've got Wikipedia and Google.

[1901] And if those are, you know, Google is part of a multinational corporation.

[1902] And eventually they're going to rein it in because of corporate sponsors or because the same pressure CNN gets to not put out stuff about Bahrain.

[1903] Any big company is, is ultimately going to be affected by the people that are running it.

[1904] Did you hear that some of those leet hacker dudes hacked into an FBI laptop and found the names of 14 million Apple IOS users they found information on them and same with PlayStation 3 they cracked into that database and got all those names it's fucking crazy and Xbox well because they challenged them I think Xbox challenge them they said you'll never crack that it was either PlayStation 3 or Xbox that challenged the hackers basically and it was over you can't do that they know they can get through anything yeah but the um the what was scary about it was uh that these you know this this this whole hacker thing like really wasn't really recognized yeah yeah i mean when like when you see like that guy uh kevin mittnick you know what that guy is uh hacker do you know what that guy is he was like a really famous hacker yeah he was a guy who at one point in that they offered him a job eventually at one of the big companies.

[1905] He would do like what's called phone freaking where you phone freaking you figure out like how to get make calls through like a box that would send a tone down the line this is like the step one into like the hacking the system.

[1906] It was like back when dial tone phones came online.

[1907] See before dial tones we all remember when you were really little kid you had to spin that dial which is really like alien to people today but when you dial the number you go because it was analog.

[1908] It was ridiculous.

[1909] And then they came out with a dial tone situation.

[1910] But what someone realized somewhere along the line is that there's a computer or something interfacing on the other end that's responding to the tones and those tones represent a number.

[1911] So let's find out what those tones represent and then we could fucking do whatever we want and have access to free unlimited long distance calling.

[1912] Because remember back then you couldn't get long distance.

[1913] Long distance was hard.

[1914] Yeah.

[1915] Like if you dated a girl and she lived in the 508, you'd be like, oh, Jesus, that's right.

[1916] She lives way the fuck over there.

[1917] It's long distance.

[1918] Yep.

[1919] Any sort of state, crossing state lines, long distance.

[1920] That was a long distance call.

[1921] Your fucking parents would scream at you.

[1922] That's right.

[1923] Long distance.

[1924] It could be 10 miles away.

[1925] Remember it used to have a separate long distance company to it.

[1926] Like I had AT &T, but I had Sprint as my long distance.

[1927] That's right.

[1928] Sprint can save your money.

[1929] Do you remember when they used to have it for cell phones or long distance for cell phones?

[1930] phones was like super expensive.

[1931] It was crazy expensive.

[1932] Do you remember that?

[1933] It was crazy expensive.

[1934] So you'd use a calling card which meant you had to punch in about 16 numbers before you put in the number you were calling.

[1935] Yes, exactly.

[1936] Yeah, I remember that.

[1937] But this Kevin Mittnick guy started out doing that and then eventually went to be in some sort of a full -blown hacker.

[1938] But to go from that to be able to experience what's going on right now must be like really incredible to witness.

[1939] Well, there's a group that he is actually opposed to.

[1940] There's a group that he is actually opposed to.

[1941] a group that identifies itself as the somethings, and they are an international web of hackers that get off on doing it, and they've done everything.

[1942] You're talking about Lulsec?

[1943] Is that what it's called?

[1944] That's one of them.

[1945] There's a bunch.

[1946] No, I don't think it's Lulsec.

[1947] Anonymous.

[1948] Oh, really?

[1949] Yeah, and he came out against Anonymous because for him, cracking the codes was about the science.

[1950] It was about the art of doing it.

[1951] And these guys are much more into sabotage.

[1952] They have a political agenda.

[1953] You know, they out corporations, and they blackmail them.

[1954] And so, you know, the bottom line is you're never going to get the talent on the payrolls that is going to be out there because they're independent -minded people, they're anti -establishment people.

[1955] They don't want to be in a payroll because they don't want to be told what to do.

[1956] They offered this guy a job.

[1957] And he went to Microsoft or one of those big companies for like six months.

[1958] They basically wanted him off the streets.

[1959] They wanted them in -house.

[1960] And he just got bored and he fucking left.

[1961] Well, that was the big issue was that why did the FBI have these 14 million iOS.

[1962] users information why they have that on their laptop like that's like what how much what what what what extent is spying already going on on almost every american civilian because it's probably gotten pretty fucking crazy now do you feel like when you're making a text message that you're sending it to the government as well yeah they saw my dick they've seen me talk about fucking farts they i mean like what i'm not worried about anything i understand that you're not people that kind of access to information is not it's not cool who are they why should we agree that they should be the ones who are allowed to look at all this stuff and be fair at this data i think that's ridiculous it's ridiculous to allow someone to be in that sort of voyeuristic position and not utilize it i mean look at look at anonymous or look at any of these hacking groups they those files when they had when people hacked like you know playstation and stuff like that if you were in the right circles you'd be able to have that file you know and like you can download those what are you trying to say like it's it's if you wanted information like if you wanted all this information you yourself could get it right now if you went online like if you wanted all these people's PS3 names and numbers or oh iOS 6 uh informations you know the FBI got it online also you know there's torrent websites that you can download all this information off There's torrent websites where you can download stolen information?

[1963] Absolutely.

[1964] So what are these websites like?

[1965] So this person's, this FBI, like, guy, he could have, his job could have been like going to torrent websites and downloading shit.

[1966] You know, he might have also had Beauty and the Beeson 3D, you know, on his, on his laptop, you know.

[1967] Who knows?

[1968] Who cares?

[1969] I mean, like, if they're going to single you out, they're going to single you out.

[1970] Dude, I completely appreciate your, you're not wanting to get upset at the experience and like who gives a fuck I'm not doing anything wrong but the real problem is you give people too much power and they fucking abuse it yeah like down the road and that's why there's all these psychological like fail safes that are set up into our system that you know you're not supposed to have too much power it's supposed to be like a whole checks and balances system make sure that people don't get out of hand because they do naturally and if someone all of a sudden can check your phone someone all of a sudden can read all your emails they're going to yeah and the bottom line is right now that seems safe because there's no imminent threat but you see a guy like Rick Perry become president and load up the fucking FBI and CIA with his people.

[1971] They're going to go, we want the Christian values protected in this country and they're going to start going after the guys to put their dicks online and you're going to be fucking I'm not going to be rounded up, but they're going to take away.

[1972] And that's when Anonymous is way more intelligent than the government.

[1973] Their hackers are way better than shit will take over.

[1974] Do you think that that will eventually happen?

[1975] It's a fascinating idea.

[1976] The idea that the civilization will be taken over through the internet and that the internet is because everything is going to be run through the internet, they would figure out some way of having a constantly changing code that you can never crack and they use it to just to manipulate wealth.

[1977] And then as long as you keep your shit together, they keep everything running smooth.

[1978] Yeah, but look what we did to, you know, look what Israel did to Iran's internet.

[1979] You know, they fucking blew it up.

[1980] They were able to crack every, you know, and we're talking about the most intense firewalls that that could be put up by, you know, a pretty wealthy country, Iran.

[1981] And they got in there and they fucking destroyed everything.

[1982] And I think you're right.

[1983] There's got to be a fail safe in place for every country and an overall scheme.

[1984] I mean, there's no way somebody's not had the foresight to put that stuff in.

[1985] Yeah, it's kind of amazing when you stop and think about the ultimate goal of all this stuff is to connect us all in some really fucking strange way.

[1986] You know, the ultimate goal of all this technology is that there's not going to be any privacy in a decade.

[1987] It won't exist.

[1988] it'd be something that we look back on when we were kids.

[1989] You're going to be able to go, I want to rent this six foot, like, room or whatever, two years ago at 315, 7, you know, here's the date.

[1990] You're going to be able to take the date, the time, and go, I want to see video and hear sound of what happened in that room.

[1991] Yeah.

[1992] I bet you will be.

[1993] I bet eventually you will be.

[1994] Well, you know, the idea that has been proposed is that if you get a computer that's strong enough and wrap your head around this because this is really hard.

[1995] to fucking absorb, that if you get a computer that's strong enough to record everything that has happened in this world, like every person that exists in this world, every business has been created, and put all of this into a data bank, and extrapolate over a period of no more than X amount of days or hours, that if this computer would given enough data, giving the, knowing the characteristics of all these people, which eventually there'll be no room, there'll be no limitations when it comes to processing power and no limitations when it comes to storage space.

[1996] You literally will be able to store everything that ever happens and that this computer with just a few weeks of data might be able to go backwards mathematically and tell you the absolute accurate origins of life on earth.

[1997] That it might literally by studying things not just on a physical level, but like on a subatomic level, there might be enough information that they could figure out pretty accurately what happened, like how a human being even came from the primordial slime, how it got to be a human.

[1998] It might be able to show you the birth of culture and it might be able to show you with a supercomputer like what's caused all of this, like how this start caused that and that caused this.

[1999] Like it might be something that you could figure out mathematically.

[2000] Well, what's amazing is that how slow evolution is.

[2001] I mean, people think that, I mean, physical evolution.

[2002] takes so long.

[2003] You can't even wrap your head around the amount of time that it would take for hair to not grow on your nose.

[2004] You know, I mean, you're talking fucking millions of years of time for shit to really happen.

[2005] So it's, you know, what's crazy?

[2006] Not always, man. One of the things that they're finding out is that in some instances, it takes place much quicker than they expected, like in the Congo.

[2007] The Congo is a rare spot because it used to be grasslands, but then it became a rainforest pretty quickly.

[2008] And a lot of animals got trapped that are grasslands animals like antelopes and stuff they got trapped in the Congo and some of them learn how to fucking swim there's an animal that's an antelot I think it's called a diker and it swims and eats fish they can go underwater a hundred yards I mean it's fucking crazy this is an antelope man I mean it's adapted and evolved and if you look at all the animals that exist there's a BBC Congo documentary that have brought up before if you can find it online get it it's fucking sensational it just shows you all the freaky shit that's in the Congo.

[2009] The birds and the lizards and the fucking the fish that come out of the water and walk to the next pod and jump in.

[2010] I mean, that's fucking nuts, man. It's, it's a really, really weird spot in this world.

[2011] What's the film called?

[2012] It's just called Congo.

[2013] It's a BBC documentary on the Congo.

[2014] But these fucking things have, this has only happened over like a couple thousand years.

[2015] And so they wonder, like, when did this antelope start swimming and eating fish?

[2016] Like before, it was out a little like almost like a little tiny deer running around but now it's eating fish like what the fuck man like how hungry did that thing have to get you know they got that nuclear power plant down the coast here and they they talk about the changes in the fish around there because there's a certain amount of heat that emanates from the power plant into the ocean and they say that there's been a change in the looks of some of the fish oh Jesus Christ have a nice dinner I wonder what what happens if you eat I mean if I think it'll be really bad for the fish to get all that radioactivity, but how bad is it for you to eat like a radioactive halbit?

[2017] Well, that's why they say don't eat old fish, don't eat fucking tuna.

[2018] Don't eat fish that lives and dies very quickly.

[2019] Why is that?

[2020] Because the longer they're around, the more they're taking in toxins.

[2021] What is it?

[2022] Yeah, but specifically what's the metal that you...

[2023] Arsnics, one of them.

[2024] No. Mercury?

[2025] Mercury.

[2026] Yeah.

[2027] The longer they live, the more mercury goes in their system.

[2028] I had, I tested for high levels of arsenic from eating too many sardines.

[2029] No shit.

[2030] I used to like to eat sardines.

[2031] I used to eat in my can a day, sometimes too.

[2032] Disgusting.

[2033] You say disgusting, but I enjoyed it.

[2034] Why are you trying to make me feel bad?

[2035] Can you just enjoy the fact?

[2036] Rosie O'Donnell's breath.

[2037] Weh, wah, wah, wah.

[2038] Come on, she's gay.

[2039] You get it?

[2040] I go out of my cheese.

[2041] I did Rosie O'Donnell's TV show.

[2042] She had a TV show on Oprah's Network for a while.

[2043] Yeah, yeah.

[2044] How was it?

[2045] She's very nice.

[2046] Yeah?

[2047] Yeah, she's nice.

[2048] She gave me a big hug and everything.

[2049] She's into conspiracy theories.

[2050] She just had a heart of that.

[2051] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, huge.

[2052] She likes to talk 9 -11 She likes to talk She's got some points She's got some valid points She's always been honest I respect that She didn't send up any Wackle radar on my side You know I'm one of those guys That I'll listen to anybody Anybody telling any crazy conspiracy theory I'll listen You know for the most part But I know when people are just like really reaching And she wasn't She's You know She was on that show With like Elizabeth Hampleback Who's like they're really hot chick She was like super Republican And they would go to war About you know Like Tower 7 and 9 -11 conspiracies.

[2053] Yeah, and she also said some shit.

[2054] Didn't she defend, what's his name, Mel Gibson?

[2055] Mel Gibson, really?

[2056] I think she said, I forget, not a full -on defense, but sort of like way more than he should have gotten.

[2057] But here's the thing about, I think being somebody who is an alternate lifestyle person is that you have to depart from the status quo to be who you really are.

[2058] And I think with that, you get some clarity and some truth in your life that you can apply to other things, conspiracy theories or whatever.

[2059] Because she's different.

[2060] So I think once you're labeled different, it frees you in a way.

[2061] That's interesting.

[2062] Yeah, well, she doesn't have to conform, and she's a big lesbian.

[2063] Everybody knows she's a lesbian.

[2064] She's powerful.

[2065] She got a lot of money.

[2066] Chicks like her.

[2067] She gets hot chicks.

[2068] It's a tricky situation.

[2069] Hey, Brian, did we freeze up?

[2070] It shows I'm frozen up.

[2071] Oh, kid just came back when I asked you.

[2072] your video?

[2073] That's voodoo.

[2074] Yeah.

[2075] We're frozen.

[2076] A lot of people watch the video?

[2077] I don't know.

[2078] Not as many.

[2079] We just, we, it's probably, we would do way better if we didn't even have it.

[2080] It's true.

[2081] I just released a podcast that was audio only, Olive Garden podcast.

[2082] Yeah, it's called, Ready, Olive Garden Butthole.

[2083] That's the name of the podcast?

[2084] Yeah, and we actually record it live at the Olive Garden.

[2085] It's pretty stupid.

[2086] They let you do it?

[2087] We had a show the other day, and these people brought Brian breadsticks from the Olive Garden.

[2088] in an olive garden bag It's become the most ridiculous, repetitive joke It's so silly But by the way, how awesome was that fucking show?

[2089] Oh, amazing, dude Both Friday and Saturday night with Doug Stanhope and Joey Diaz And Ari.

[2090] So much fun.

[2091] We were supposed to do shows in Vegas And I was supposed to have a UFC in Vegas But the fight got canceled So we moved it to the ice house Do you go up there much besides when you do my shows there?

[2092] Do you ever do weekends there?

[2093] I've never done it in my life Gotto.

[2094] Love to do it.

[2095] It's one of the best clubs ever.

[2096] It's so perfect.

[2097] It's just such an old season place, short, fucking, like, really low ceiling, like really tight, tight seating.

[2098] That's wide, but not deep.

[2099] It's perfect.

[2100] I did some sort of a show.

[2101] I think George Lopez hosted it in 1994.

[2102] That was the first time I ever went to the Ice House.

[2103] Oh, wait, it was it?

[2104] 94, so what were you, six?

[2105] Was it a TV show?

[2106] They had a TV show for a while.

[2107] Damn.

[2108] He was 20.

[2109] And I was on stage at the Ice House doing some TV show.

[2110] Yeah, I did the show.

[2111] I think George Lopez.

[2112] Didn't he?

[2113] Wasn't he the host of it?

[2114] Very Latino club, too, isn't it?

[2115] Not anymore.

[2116] No, we whittied up.

[2117] We whited the shit out of it.

[2118] Yeah.

[2119] Still a lot of Latinos.

[2120] Yeah, that area's got a lot of Latinos.

[2121] San Jose is like that.

[2122] But we brought in a lot of white boys.

[2123] Yeah.

[2124] A lot of white kids.

[2125] Just the right amount of Asians.

[2126] They said that there's a totally different vibe to the club now since we've been doing a lot of shows there, which is great.

[2127] you know the waiters and the people that work there are always complimenting the audiences and so nice people yeah we bring in a nice group of people we're super lucky and don't think that we don't appreciate the fuck out of that because I know people that are scared of their audiences and they don't want to hang out with their audience they run from them you know it's nice that uh you know like after the shows when we're always there talking I mean we've had many nights where we stay till you know 1 30 the morning no I remember the last one you stood out there and they it was really nice and orderly they sort of like people lined up They came in, took a picture, said hello.

[2128] Yeah, we just say, but a lot of it is cool conversations, too.

[2129] Like the guy, I told you the Iraq guy who told me about going over there and flooding the economy with money, he told me the whole really interesting thing because he was just a young kid who just fucking fucked up and joined.

[2130] And there he is under this crazy, you know, false pretense.

[2131] But he was talking about how he was there.

[2132] And he was like, you know, talking to someone who is like a sergeant, some guy had been there for a while and saying, well, you know, we're over here to, you know, fight for free.

[2133] freedom and all the stuff and the guy goes what the fuck are you talking about he goes we're here to get oil yeah we're here for the oil we've got to control the oil that's why we're here they built a pot a pipe from kosovo they're already prepared for this yeah and he was like what and he remembers you know talking about like he was talking about how he remembers that that was just like a shattering moment in his life but he was like holy shit this isn't a movie yeah like this this this is crazy he volunteered for some nutty ass fucking war.

[2134] Well, every fucking war, man. Every war that we've ever thought, there's been another reason.

[2135] Yeah, but that one, you know, especially the people that joined after 9 -11, there's a lot of people that joined that really thought they were going to do a difference.

[2136] They really thought they were going to go straight fucking war hero style and reclaim America.

[2137] Yeah, but don't you think that's true of every war we've gotten into?

[2138] Pretty much, except Vietnam.

[2139] I think the reason why they had to draft people in Vietnam was because Vietnam was like super unpopular war that we probably we never could get off today.

[2140] With the internet, you wouldn't be able to pull off that sort of Gulf of Tonkin incident.

[2141] They would have to actually have a real event.

[2142] But they've done that before, man. Hitler did that.

[2143] Nero did that.

[2144] Oh yeah, the whole sinking of the Lusitania, they say.

[2145] That happened 22 months before we declared war.

[2146] That was just an excuse we used because we were an emerging nation.

[2147] We wanted to be one of the big boys.

[2148] And there was this war going on, and we said, Fuck, if Germany wins, we've been supplying, we were making a ton of money supplying the Allied forces.

[2149] And if they lost, we were never going to get, they owed us fucking billions in debt.

[2150] If they lost, we weren't getting that money.

[2151] We went in there to hedge our bets and make sure that it went the right way.

[2152] Yeah.

[2153] So we pretended the Lusitania was the reason we were going in.

[2154] A bunch of Americans were on a ferry ship that got tour.

[2155] Let's get in there.

[2156] And they played on the heartstrings.

[2157] Well, before drones and missiles and high -speed aircrafts and all the shit that we have today, you had to use strategy to win a war.

[2158] And strategy, much like in chess, involves sacrifice.

[2159] Okay?

[2160] And there's no way to win a war if you're not willing to sacrifice some of your troops.

[2161] And unless you understand that, you're going to be a shitty general and you're going to make even more people die.

[2162] Okay?

[2163] So the realities of war dictate that you do something unbelievably hurt.

[2164] horrific and make sure that a certain amount of your people die.

[2165] Apocalypse now, the final words said by Marlon Brando.

[2166] He says, do you think we're going to win this war?

[2167] And he goes, we came in and we vaccinated a bunch of kids who'd been infected.

[2168] Their arms or their legs have been infected with gangrene or whatever.

[2169] And we inoculated them.

[2170] And the tribal elders came back.

[2171] And when they found out we'd done it, they macheteed off the limbs of all the children.

[2172] And that's when Marlon Brando went.

[2173] The horror.

[2174] He's like, that's how you.

[2175] you win a war.

[2176] When you're willing to do that, you win the war.

[2177] Yeah.

[2178] You've got to be willing to take shit to the very, very highest human level.

[2179] And that includes doing horrific things to your enemy.

[2180] I mean, if you have read the accounts of what the American soldiers did to American Indians, to the Native Americans when they were, you know, trying to clear out land, they did some horrendous thing.

[2181] They would wear like women's vaginas on their hats.

[2182] Wow.

[2183] What?

[2184] Yeah, these are American soldiers.

[2185] Yeah, there's a lot of accounts of that kind of shit.

[2186] What is like hair pieces?

[2187] Just put it on their hat, you know?

[2188] Just like they have a fucking cowboy hat on.

[2189] Just stick a woman's pussy to their hat that they cut off of an Indian that they butchered.

[2190] I would wear like a fake mustache.

[2191] I would wear like a fake mustache or something.

[2192] Well I got into this this weird sort of Native American fascination thing for a while and I was reading like a lot of shit about how just the different ways that the people that migrated here started just killing them.

[2193] Like, I mean, and how, like, these, like, people had no idea what the fuck was coming.

[2194] I mean, it's really an incredible amount of people were wiped out over a short period of time.

[2195] And it doesn't get nearly the amount of attention and respect, like, in our culture, as it deserves.

[2196] Genocide.

[2197] Yeah, slavery gets a lot more because it was, like, just before.

[2198] We kind of, like, stopped that sort of at the same time.

[2199] But, you know, it's really a horrific thing when you really stop and look at the actual numbers.

[2200] of people that died.

[2201] Well, people look at the Germans, and they've still got, you know, the stigma of the Nazis.

[2202] We'll end in 10 minutes.

[2203] We'll stay with the Germans forever.

[2204] But what you don't look at is, you know, what Great Britain did around the world, whether you're talking about Africa, Asia, India, you know, the amount of people that died in the name of manifest destiny or Christianity, you know, the British are truly, the per capita have committed more atrocities than any race in history.

[2205] And yet wasps in this country, it doesn't get any better.

[2206] They are the most heralded.

[2207] There's no racist jokes about the British.

[2208] It's true, except their teeth, you know?

[2209] It's it.

[2210] That's not bad.

[2211] Not bad at all.

[2212] It's true.

[2213] Big vaginas, too.

[2214] They have big vaginas?

[2215] Yeah.

[2216] Because they have bigger heads, so their babies have bigger heads.

[2217] Wow.

[2218] I didn't hear that part.

[2219] But yeah, it's, well, what's really incredible is that we're the byproduct of all that craziness.

[2220] all the raping and pillaging and sword fighting and shit it's all come to you know Native Americans being killed and people tracking across and boom here we are I mean we're at the very end of the time we're at the west coast of California the United States the last spot that people settled in the free world this is the new world's final chapter I mean if you really stop and think about there's no unless Antarctica defrosts and we start moving cities up there what if that becomes like the new cool place like the perfect weather that's what happened to Greenland All of a sudden, Greenland became...

[2221] No, Iceland became the place because it warmed the fuck up and there's hot chicks!

[2222] And everybody went.

[2223] It became like the fastest growing economy in the world for a while.

[2224] Yeah, we have to accept the fact that this whole planet spins in a weird way and it goes through cycles where shit gets really fucking cold.

[2225] And when that happens in your spot, you've got to move.

[2226] We can't be like completely dedicated to one spot.

[2227] It's ridiculous.

[2228] this because you look at the history of the world, they find these megalodon teeth in Montana, these giant shark teeth from this fucking 80 -foot long monster shark that used to live.

[2229] They find them in Montana.

[2230] That means Montana was the ocean.

[2231] Like you can't just say, oh, I'm okay about the ocean, I'm staying here.

[2232] You can't.

[2233] It goes away.

[2234] It's going to get you.

[2235] You got it.

[2236] You can't, if you're living in Malibu, you're living in a fucking dream, okay?

[2237] Those people that live like on the water, good luck.

[2238] Good luck.

[2239] Good call.

[2240] You're at the edge.

[2241] Are you that confident that the edge is going to stay there?

[2242] Do you put your finger right near a fan every day?

[2243] That's how I feel like just living in L .A., though.

[2244] Oh, yeah, you're right.

[2245] I mean, in a certain extent.

[2246] But I think that if the real thing happens like that, like something that the water comes this far in, you know, we're our dead.

[2247] We're already dead.

[2248] Well, you look at like, I was down in Mexico at Easter, and we were in, you know, south of Cancun, that whole area.

[2249] Chichinica.

[2250] Yeah, exactly.

[2251] Palum.

[2252] That shit.

[2253] was, you know, we go into Sonot days and you go down 100 feet and they're showing you in the caves all of these fucking, you know, that the ocean, basically there was a tsunami that landed on that area and it took thousands of years for the water to drain through that land again.

[2254] And it was just, it was fucking underwater.

[2255] They're finding hundreds of cities in Europe and in the oceans.

[2256] They're finding the remnants.

[2257] It's on a constant basis.

[2258] Yeah.

[2259] I'm like a, you know, it's happening.

[2260] I said hundreds, but it's really been dozens.

[2261] But it really has been, like, super frequent that they're finding more and more these ancient civilizations that are underwater.

[2262] It's just going to happen.

[2263] It's just what it is.

[2264] The Earth doesn't give a fuck about you.

[2265] Remember there used to be the whole thing of, like, there's the lost city of Atlanta.

[2266] It's like, no, there's about a thousand of them.

[2267] Yeah.

[2268] Places that went underwater.

[2269] Yeah.

[2270] There's so much underwater shit.

[2271] I mean, and by the way, how much shit is underwater?

[2272] I mean, what do you get?

[2273] Like 10 ,000 years before the ocean changes it where you can never recognize it again?

[2274] How long does it actually stay?

[2275] with all those waves and shit happening, how long before that stuff is unrecognizable?

[2276] And salt water, which just erodes, shit.

[2277] Yeah, sand and covered in sand and shit.

[2278] Yeah.

[2279] How fucking many ships are out there.

[2280] What a terrifying way to die.

[2281] That must have been.

[2282] Yeah.

[2283] You know, get in a boat, hit a iceberg, and then realize you are just fucking days by boat from anywhere out in the middle of the ocean.

[2284] Dude, I was boogie boarding yesterday, and I went too far out and big fucking waves.

[2285] So I get fucking slam First I'm going under these giant waves I mean these are like seven foot waves And I start going under them And then which you normally can do But then it was fucking sucking me And I'd spin So I do it like three or four times And I'm trying to go out past the waves So that I can get my air Because I ain't getting in I look up and I'm fucking like 50 yards out And I just start So then I finally catch one I take it a little bit And then I go under flipped around and now I can touch the sand but the waves are still fucking giant and so they're landing on me and I can't get under the wave so it's fucking hitting me into the sand and spinning me and I can't get out so long story short I finally fucking just scramble and there's a lifeguard waist deep coming at me and he's like dude are you all right he's like you got fucking pounded and the thing is my wife there's a whole bunch of people watching my family all my friends and shit and they're like were you scared and I was like I didn't have time it never occurred to me because I'm sure it's like when you fight if you stop and are scared for a second you just lost your fucking ability to problem solve yes and then my back is on fire today and I realize how fucked up I got well the only way to stop that feeling is to get over it no I mean that feeling being in water and just getting like tossed and like you know like it's just sucks if you haven't had an experience like that where you have to really operate under extreme pressure it can be really debilitating some people just immediately give up it gets really scary where some people find like surprising resolve.

[2286] It's a weird thing about human beings like how much your mind is capable of doing five minutes, bitches.

[2287] And people are one way or the other.

[2288] Yeah, let's just wrap this up because we're running out of time.

[2289] At three hours Ustream turns into a pumpkin.

[2290] Was it three hours?

[2291] You fucking, we did it again?

[2292] Yeah, we do it every time, Fitzsimmons.

[2293] I love it!

[2294] It's been a lot of fun, buddy.

[2295] Yeah.

[2296] You're, I mean, as far as like people that I've known, you like, you're up there like one of the long as people I'm still in contact with in my life.

[2297] Feels good.

[2298] Yeah, it's great, buddy.

[2299] Yeah.

[2300] We're going to have some fun.

[2301] Play some pool.

[2302] Definitely.

[2303] Powerful.

[2304] Can I plug the fuck out of my one hour special?

[2305] When is it?

[2306] Tarrytown, New York, September 14th at the music hall.

[2307] Let's do this.

[2308] As a promo code till the 9th, go to fitzdog .com, get tickets.

[2309] Put in Fitzdog and the promo code when you get your tickets.

[2310] Ten dollar tickets.

[2311] Tell your friends, tell your family.

[2312] I got to jam this place.

[2313] Two shows on a Friday night.

[2314] I'll be doing the best material I've been doing for three years fucking nailed it down.

[2315] I'm ready.

[2316] I want you there to share it with me. You look very confident, my friend.

[2317] You look ready to rock and roll.

[2318] I feel right.

[2319] Greg Fitzsimmis is a very funny stand -up.

[2320] He's been doing it like I said 20, what are we at?

[2321] 23 years now, dude?

[2322] Sounds about right.

[2323] Something like that?

[2324] Crazy.

[2325] Yeah.

[2326] Old school skills, son.

[2327] So go check that out.

[2328] Where's your website again?

[2329] Fitzdog .com, F -I -T -Z, and Fitzdog Radio's the podcast.

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