#217 - Michael Ruppert

[0] The Joe Rogan experience.

[1] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.

[2] Just to clear things up, there's a lot of people in the MMA world, they're saying, hey man, Nick Diaz no -showed to a match with Braillejo Estima.

[3] They were supposed to have a jujitsu super fight, and Nick Diaz no -showed.

[4] And they said, are you going to take him off the opening your podcast?

[5] And I was like, how dare you?

[6] How dare you suggest that I would ever take Nick Diaz?

[7] off the opening of my podcast that was one of the greatest moments of my life sir i love it it's one of my favorite parts and i don't know why he knows showed i'm sure he had his reasons you know i don't know what the fuck happened behind the scenes i don't know who pissed him off you can't piss that dude off all right if you want if you want that dude to fight everything has to be smooth as silk like the ufc there's no bullshit everything's handled everybody everybody's smooth and professional and it goes off without a hitch and he has no problems with anybody but you can't be pissing that dude off and then expecting him to show up he'll just he'll just vanish on you what was there was there some controversy like was there a reason that he got pissed off there was a weight issue apparently uh they were supposed to fight at uh they were supposed to weigh in at 180 pounds 180 pounds the day of the match like you had two weigh -ins and apparently bralio esteema didn't know this and then he he weighed in in the morning he lost the weight he had cut weight he had to cut like nine pounds so he cut the weight he weighed in the morning and then he then he rehydrated and but the confusion of him not being on weight or not knowing what the weight is or when to weigh in it's real that's that's where it gets confusing because it's it seems like it's the fault of the organizers it seems like there was there's a big confusion as to like when this was all supposed to go down and then of course with nick deez you like i said you can't piss them off if you piss them off it's just not to show up you know and they they fucked they fucked up in that regard they should have had everything working nice and smooth but i don't you know i can't excuse it it was i would have loved to seen it, man. Nick is a bad motherfucker, you know, and for him to have the kind of confidence to get in there with Bralio Estima, Bralio is one of the two or three best jujitsu guys in the world.

[8] I mean, he's amazing.

[9] And as a pure grappler, I mean, he taps out other amazing pure grapplers.

[10] Very smart guy, you know, and, you know, it sucks for him more than anything.

[11] Because, you know, he came over here from England for this.

[12] This is like a big moment for him as a representative of the best Jiu -Jitsu that's currently available to have a grappling match against what is a representative of the best martial artist, mixed martial artists we have available.

[13] Nick Diaz is in the elite of the elite.

[14] He's right up there with the top guys in the world as far as MMA is concerned, as is Brailleo in Jiu -Jitsu.

[15] So that would be so fascinating to see them go out.

[16] And it sucks that it didn't work out.

[17] I don't know why it didn't work out.

[18] It seems like all these guys have weight issues.

[19] That's a huge problem.

[20] Why don't they just have like four girls on staff that just have to like focus on weight issues?

[21] They seem like they would be pros at that.

[22] Well, they won't, you know, you got to leave that shit up to a fighter, you know.

[23] And this is a different sort of a situation because there was a lot of confusion apparently as to when they were supposed to weigh in and different people like Nick Diaz weighed in one day and probably await in the morning of the next day.

[24] There's obvious confusion.

[25] I don't know exactly what happened.

[26] You would have to sit both guys down and sort of piece the argument out, but it sucks.

[27] I was just trying to get Nick Diaz to have some girls on.

[28] staff.

[29] I was trying to help the guy out.

[30] Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Rupert's here and he's going to get down to the bottom of things.

[31] I am.

[32] Michael Rupert's been...

[33] I have heard that Fox Magic is particularly strong this type of month.

[34] Fox Magic has been working this time of the month.

[35] Fox Magazine, it's working.

[36] Fox Magic has been magic and all over the place lately.

[37] Yeah, yeah.

[38] But as far as what's going on, that's what I came down here to find out.

[39] I had to talk to you to figure it out.

[40] I don't know if I have any answers for you, sir.

[41] I have a feeling.

[42] Anything that will be coming out of my mouth is pure speculation.

[43] Good.

[44] From someone who's completely unqualified.

[45] Well, let's speculate all over the place.

[46] Well, you know, there's just a ton of shit's going on.

[47] And there have been some major changes.

[48] And as far as my life goes, things are changing for the good all over the place.

[49] I've left CollapseNet.

[50] Now, explain for the folks who are uninitiated.

[51] What is CollapseNet?

[52] Collapse Network, CollapseNet .com, not Collapse .net .net.

[53] It's a company we started two years ago after the movie, the Doc Collapse came out.

[54] And its purpose was to help people to prepare for the collapse of human industrial civilization, which is well underway right now.

[55] And over the two years, we've grown to six members in 68 countries, and we got really busy.

[56] We specialize in bringing a really accurate news reports from all over the world.

[57] It gives a real picture and telling people what's really going on, but also connecting them through a directory with 1 ,600 handpicked entries.

[58] That's free, the lighthouse directory for it.

[59] So the lights are just going on.

[60] Maybe it's a good idea to grow food, or maybe there's going to be more blackouts, or maybe this, that.

[61] And a lot of work has been done over the course of a couple of decades by a lot of people.

[62] So we bring all that data there so you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

[63] and then we bring a lot of great feature writers and stuff.

[64] So it got to be big, and we had some big challenges.

[65] We got massively cyber attack this year.

[66] Man, they just, oh, they just laid into us twice this year.

[67] And we had some big struggles.

[68] But the way it all evolved, and one of my lines is like evolve or perish, you know, grow up or die.

[69] And one of my big spiritual lessons now is about letting go.

[70] It's not, it's, you know, it's letting go that really gives me more.

[71] options and so anyway isn't it fun that you figured it out like later in life everybody does oh yeah well when you're young it's like the big problem I spent 21 years and 12 step and and I lived that program so letting go came to be something you practice when confronted with you know so letting go collapse that turned out to be perfect I gave the ownership back to the you know I'm out completely but now they don't have to pay my salary and they're all on their own and they're just so energized and they're just so on fire and now I get to step back a little bit because I'm a tired motherfucker you know I've been at this a long time do you ever put nice stories on like happy stories like someone found a box of kittens and they were purring and all them had beautiful smiles we went home and they had a great day and the new episode of Game of Thrones was on and we watched it and it was awesome and they had Fox Magic Here's you what kind of music is That's a fuck's magic song.

[72] Oh, okay.

[73] Okay.

[74] We have a sound for it now.

[75] Do you think it's possible that civilization won't collapse?

[76] Is it possible that we're just stumbling and that will balance out?

[77] Is that possible?

[78] Absolutely, totally.

[79] That's one of the reasons where I'm going through this big change.

[80] I mean, not only did I, in two books in the movie and everything else, kind of predict all of the stuff based upon a model that said that that means civilization is collapsing.

[81] So if you see these symptoms, there's a pretty good chance that's what the disease is.

[82] But now, just recently, Fukushima is so totally out of control.

[83] Reactor number two is so hot that any robots they send to the reactor get fried.

[84] And so they can't get into work on this melted core that's lying at the bottom.

[85] And then they've said no machines that can handle that radiation have even been designed yet.

[86] Oh, okay, that leaves a reactor two out, building four with all the rocks.

[87] I think it's amazing that someone made nuclear reactors in the first place.

[88] I think it's amazing.

[89] Yeah.

[90] You know, I did a joke about it in my act, but it really is fascinating that you can build something like that that you can't shut off.

[91] That someone allowed them to build something like that where in some unmeasurable event or the power gets shut off and can't get back on in time, it's fucked forever.

[92] There are 450 more reactors around the San Anola.

[93] Frays just had a major breakdown.

[94] Where's that?

[95] That's in San Clemente on the way to San Diego.

[96] Really?

[97] They had a major something?

[98] It's down all season.

[99] So you guys in Los Angeles are going to be having some humongous blackouts this summer.

[100] Really?

[101] And brownouts, yeah.

[102] I'm surprised.

[103] See, we had that on CollapsNet, but they hide it from you in the mainstream news here.

[104] That's why Collapsnet's so good at what we do.

[105] Whoa.

[106] So because of the, what's wrong with the reactor?

[107] That's the one that you see.

[108] when you drive down to San Diego?

[109] Reactor number two at San Antonio, right by Camp Pendleton.

[110] That's so, it's a weird feeling to drive by and see a nuclear reactor.

[111] Reactor two, there was problems with the cooling pipes, and then I think they were checking another reactor.

[112] Gee, the x -rays showed some faulty piping, but now, so the reactor is offline indefinitely.

[113] It is such a stupid fucking idea.

[114] The idea that you can make something you can never shut off, that you would do that.

[115] That's so arrogant.

[116] it's so incredibly arrogant because if it fucks up and people are like well most of the time it's clean and safe what are you banking on if you look at the permanence of any fuck up what a massive amount of time it takes before that area is not deadly to go near if you look at the fuck up that's we're talking about thousands of years Japan is dead Japan is mortally wounded and I've been saying so and it's clear Japan's economy is imploding they they are now a net importer their debt is like 280 % of gd and how are they getting their power now that very good question Japan has replaced uh was that a Japanese impression by the way no I can do better one of you right oh don't do it don't okay don't do that no no okay so so Japan was what happened um what they're running Emergency diesel widely, which is, diesel is a whole separate issue worldwide, but they're running diesel, they're burning now fuel oil and coal oil, which, excuse me, two grades of oil, but, and they're importing liquefied natural gas.

[117] Now, that's where you build this $450 million floating gigantic bomb of liquefied natural gas, and you floated across.

[118] And, you know, one of those things is almost the size of an atom bomb if it goes off.

[119] Oh, my God.

[120] So this is energy desperation.

[121] But when you talk about diesel, you know, don't buy diesel now.

[122] And here's why, diesel shortage all over the world.

[123] In India, they got 30 ,000 generators to handle blackouts at the Taj Mahal.

[124] And the city that's around there.

[125] We ran that story twice on CollapsNet.

[126] And there's so many blackouts in India and pocket.

[127] They're all burning diesel and they're short of coal.

[128] I mean, it's happening all around the world right now.

[129] But diesel's in really short supply.

[130] What are they going to do with all these nuclear power plants?

[131] They can't shut them down, right?

[132] There's no way you can't like, you can't shut it off.

[133] Well, if you combine that, let me just take you a little bit further ahead to where the point of all this is going.

[134] Okay.

[135] Because from four different directions, they ain't going to shut the nuclear power plants off.

[136] They can't control what they got.

[137] because electricity is industrial civilization.

[138] You don't have industrial civilization without it.

[139] It just seems so ridiculous to put something like that in an area where it's close to humans.

[140] It's the idea that you can completely contain that insane amount of energy, it's like it's so arrogant.

[141] Okay.

[142] That's one prong of a fork.

[143] Yeah.

[144] Fukushima.

[145] Here's the second prong.

[146] AIDS?

[147] No. it out.

[148] AIDS came out of the gate like Tyson.

[149] You know, AIDS was killing people left and right, but now you hardly hear about AIDS anymore.

[150] It's the best diet in Hollywood right now.

[151] It also generates a lot of medical money in the medical business.

[152] Do you ever read like that Peter Dewsberg stuff?

[153] Long time.

[154] Do you know who he is?

[155] Yeah.

[156] He's the guy, he's the biologist from the University of California, Berkeley, and his claim is something along the lines of that HIV is like a weak virus.

[157] I may be paraphrasing here, and that when you're seeing it in people most likely it's because they have a weakened immune system.

[158] A strong, healthy immune system fights off HIV fairly easily.

[159] That it's not the culprit of AIDS, but rather a symptom of a depleted immune system that's from a variety of different things.

[160] And, you know, it's a crazy argument because if it's true, it's like, how could only this guy be figuring that out?

[161] There's one biologist and all these other guys, they haven't noticed that?

[162] I don't trust.

[163] Is it that tricky?

[164] I don't trust any of the science behind.

[165] but is that is possible that that's not possible though right i mean it's not possible that that aids is a hoax that's not possible it's not possible it is definitely possible that it was man -made right but it's a real it is definitely possible that it was intentionally released you really you think you feel like that yeah i've seen this was goes way way back to like the 90s when i saw these but these were w h o documents showing the first outbreak of aids and no and superimposed were WHO vaccination programs, and it was like a perfect match.

[166] Wow.

[167] Yeah, I don't, you know, obviously I'm no biologists, but I don't see how one guy could be out there saying something like that and all of his peers disagree.

[168] I mean, is that how it works?

[169] I mean, obviously, people think that HIV causes AIDS.

[170] But in this guy's mind, he's like, these people were all doing it.

[171] I think it was drug abuse and, you know, partying.

[172] and that's what he was attributing to their depleted states that they were doing like crystal meth and poppers and amyl nitrate and stuff and that apparently is immune system crushing this amyl nitrate is something that that was big in the 80s 70s well i mean when i was a cop i ran into amel on the street what would they do just pop it and they're and they smell it or something like that uh and sam kinnison had a bit about this is the story of the funniest dead body i have ever seen in my life whoa okay yes the funny is dead body i've ever seen in my life you want to hear the story of the funniest dead body my life.

[173] Okay.

[174] Yes.

[175] All right.

[176] And this is, I swear this is true.

[177] I was working Wilshire Division, and I was a P3, had two stripes.

[178] And every Christmas, cops from one division will go cover for another division when it has its Christmas party, you know.

[179] So we were covering for Hollywood Division's Christmas party.

[180] So I'm, I'm driving up around in Hollywood, and we get a call 6A.

[181] 42, meet the RA, dead body, such and such address, and maybe on Cherokee some.

[182] So the R .A. is a rescue ambulance.

[183] So we pull up and it's a it's a three -story standard California really bare bones interior courtyard open about you know balconies and it's up on the third floor and so me and my partner we go walking down and I noticed that the paramedics are just outside they're laughing their asses off they're down on their knees they're laughing so hard okay and I'm going okay guys this is the dead body call right?

[184] And I go, what, and they point.

[185] And so I go in, and there's this dead guy on the floor.

[186] And he was, I would say, young 20 -ish, light -skinned African -American guy in a Fredericks of Hollywood negligent.

[187] Hala.

[188] And he was laying on the floor and kind of spread eagle.

[189] And I looked, and there is a broomstick protruding.

[190] From, you know where.

[191] okay but there's only about a foot of it protruding oh from you nowhere and and so the table had been pushed up against it was easy to figure it he he I guess this was before a man could buy a sex toy or something I don't know but he had been up masturbating on the table with the broom and the purpose of the amyl was to strike it right as you come right but what it does is it gives you an involuntary back Bad, oh, my God.

[192] That's my amyl nitrate story.

[193] And the broomstick went up his ass and killed him.

[194] He looked satisfied.

[195] What a way to go, man. Yeah, there's been a bunch of dudes that have gone asphyxiation style, right?

[196] Yeah, that's like the NXS guy.

[197] And that's actually a pussy shit.

[198] David Carradine.

[199] Yeah.

[200] That's actually a pussy shit because a real guy would do it the other way with the broom coming at you from like the bristle part side that's that's the real way to wow like a man yeah like a man that's like men of this west hollywood shit that's how like gay samoans handle it to write of passage you gotta use a broom their other way humor was good fudge your hatch yeah that's a dumb way to die do you think one of the things i heard is like the big uh the big uh conspiracy would be that if you wanted to shame a person, you would kill them and make it look like they died masturbating like an idiot.

[201] I mean, that's like in a couple of NWA songs.

[202] Yeah, I'll just leave a bunch of gay porns around.

[203] Like, that would be the ultimate joke if you found your buddy dead.

[204] You're like, all right, he's dead.

[205] So listen, there's nothing I can do about that.

[206] But what I can do is put his dick in his hand and put a bunch of gay porns all around them and then take pictures of him and then put it online.

[207] That's cold.

[208] I got you the last.

[209] I got the last one, bitch.

[210] I got the last one.

[211] Come on, that would be high hilarious.

[212] Like lipstick on and shit.

[213] Because if you knew, you know, if you knew that guy and you loved him and it's like the one last joke you can get out of them.

[214] That's so fucked up.

[215] It's so fucked up.

[216] It's so fucked up.

[217] But it would be hilarious.

[218] You got to have a good sense of humor.

[219] Come on, man. That's hilarious.

[220] All right.

[221] I remember that.

[222] You don't think that.

[223] You remember that.

[224] Yeah, I'll remember that too, bitch.

[225] That sucks.

[226] Why do you even release that into the that.

[227] There's already photos of you out there with dicks in your hand and your mouth and that's the golden rule of the internet.

[228] Yeah, but imagine a real life conspiracy against you.

[229] Neo's bad.

[230] Oh, it's not real.

[231] Michael Ruper went with the sunglasses on.

[232] That's when he's going to get deep.

[233] Isn't that a weird thing like that that's a cool guy thing to wear your sunglasses?

[234] Isn't that weird thing?

[235] I tell you one thing.

[236] What about that new meme where the sunglasses come down?

[237] They go, deal with it.

[238] What is that?

[239] Where did it come from?

[240] Where did it?

[241] I love it too, but where did it originate?

[242] I don't know.

[243] What is that from?

[244] I don't know.

[245] It's everywhere, though.

[246] I see it all over the place.

[247] Sunglasses drop down, deal with it.

[248] It's beautiful.

[249] But how did sunglasses get to be cool?

[250] I don't even know what that means.

[251] I think what that means is whatever, you know, you have issue with, why don't you just fucking deal with it and leave me alone?

[252] Okay.

[253] You know, deal with it.

[254] Get out of my face?

[255] Well, he's a cool guy.

[256] He's got sunglasses on.

[257] Get out of my face.

[258] He's just super cool.

[259] Yeah.

[260] But why, how does that make you cool?

[261] How did sunglasses become something?

[262] it makes you cool because you look different you have your eyes are you look like now you look like a fly you look like a you know i've been what well you do right there those are actually pretty dope those are oakley no these record HD but those are oakley's right no they're no they're no they're just they're uh video camera classes that is amazing that's HD what a world we live in yeah how long before you get a chip in your eyeball it just does that and you don't have to have seven days yeah well this probably going to be we're going to be in certain shit into our bodies eventually.

[263] They're going to give you something that just works way better.

[264] Like this, all you need is this one little microprocessor in your body and you will never have a disease again.

[265] It's just Bing.

[266] You have like this microprocessor that regulates your body.

[267] They put it right in your pituitary gland.

[268] And it regulates your body like a little micromanager.

[269] And then that shit's going to start getting viruses.

[270] But every 10 years they have to give you brain surgery and open it up to change the battery.

[271] What do you think?

[272] Yeah.

[273] Yeah, but imagine that that computer...

[274] Oh, hell.

[275] Hey, Joe.

[276] Imagine that computer inside you.

[277] That computer inside you fixes all the disease and all the shit.

[278] And then that computer gets a virus.

[279] That computer gets a virus.

[280] And then so you have to start making medicine to help that computer.

[281] So you put robots inside that computer.

[282] It gets a virus.

[283] It turns you gay.

[284] Imagine that.

[285] They had a virus.

[286] And all of a sudden you just could not stop your gay urges.

[287] That would probably be the first thing virus, right?

[288] What if John Travolta had that and all this time people are just being mean to him and they don't know that he has a disease?

[289] He has a genetically designed.

[290] like a disease from like the Russians maybe if you know if you wanted to do that makes them like super aggressively gay the government has worked on this right this is not a joke Michael Rupert would back me up remember and during Iraq they were they were trying to figure out how to make a gay bomb this is not a joke they have I can pretty much guarantee that with all of the hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars that the black ops community has had to work with in the secret budget all these years they have tried every stupid fucking thing in the world you could think of.

[291] This idea was that they were going to be able to spray something down, like something blows up over these guys.

[292] It sprays all over them, and it makes him gay.

[293] I mean, they were really, like, looking into the possibility of that, and they thought it would, like, demoralize them.

[294] Did they ever hear about the Greeks and the Romans?

[295] Yeah.

[296] Some of the greatest fucking soldiers of all time, they were boning each other constantly.

[297] Yeah.

[298] The samurai boned each other, too.

[299] These dudes boned dudes back then, and they were cutting heads off every day.

[300] That was a, this is a wild time.

[301] You know, you can't think that, you know, making these people guy is going to, it might make them better fighters.

[302] They're going to fight for their boyfriend now.

[303] Fuck you up, man. That's what the system does with pretty much everything.

[304] It takes something and it bends it.

[305] It twists it.

[306] So that you accept a way to look at it that is a basic fundamental lie anyway.

[307] You know, I don't think gay or non -gay has shit to do with how good a warrior you are.

[308] Exactly.

[309] You know.

[310] Yeah, there's a lot of gay dudes who can beat the fuck out of you.

[311] No doubt about it.

[312] I got my ass kicked once by a Dyke as a cop.

[313] What?

[314] I did.

[315] Yeah.

[316] On Christ, she was 6 -2 and she could bench like 260 or something.

[317] Oh my God.

[318] Did you underestimate her?

[319] Did she charge you?

[320] Like, what happened?

[321] We just called, it was a 415 fight at a bar and it was.

[322] What is 415 mean?

[323] That's a place call for disturbance, you know.

[324] Is 420 really pot?

[325] No. That had nothing to do with police.

[326] No?

[327] What is that?

[328] That's a, that's a colloquialism.

[329] It's a native, you know, but as far as LAPD, no, I never heard.

[330] a 420 is it how did 420 become pot anybody there's probably a good history behind that it might be a code in some county in northern california okay so i'm sorry so 415 comes out yeah you go to visit it's it's a it's a lesbian bar we go in and you know and there's a fight and you know and she was fighting somebody else and i go to step in and she's and she i'm going to fly it back across the room man you got to be really careful because big big women can knock you the fuck out That's for real.

[331] There's some big women out there that can knock you the fuck out.

[332] I know a chick that's only like 130 plus pounds, maybe like 140, my friend Tommy Jr.'s girlfriend, Katie.

[333] And she can punch a fucking hole in your face, man. This chick knows how to punch.

[334] Like, and she's a strong girl.

[335] There's girls out there that can fuck you up.

[336] You've got to be careful, especially if they sucker punch you.

[337] Oh, that's terrible.

[338] There's a great video, though, of some fucking asshole who's yelling and screaming at this woman, and she grabs him by the collars and head butts him and knocks him unconscious.

[339] It was like a security camera in front of a bar.

[340] The guy was just being a drunk douchebag, and the girl, it was, the girl was badass, man. She was like a fucking character in a movie.

[341] Cool.

[342] I mean, she wasn't a big girl, but she grabs him by the car and just fucking head butts and right in the chin.

[343] The dude goes out.

[344] It was hilarious.

[345] Yeah, it's a beautiful video.

[346] Have you ever seen it, Brian?

[347] Pull it up because it's, it's, um, there's not even any audio.

[348] It's, uh, probably girl headbutts guy, K .O. Yeah, maybe.

[349] I don't know why I'm asking.

[350] to find that it's probably a billion of those right how many how many videos online there about girls headbutting a guy and knocking them out uh i could find it well you know i am the only guy in the history of the los angeles police department no this isn't that man to have been bitten in the left testicle in the line of duty really oh jesus the only guy ever was it as far as i know is because your right had your hand on it and you were massaging it and you were no no why did someone bite your ball uh we got a call this wasn't a day when you're angel dust was on the street PCP.

[351] My God, it's the worst thing I've ever seen drug I've ever seen in my life.

[352] What is the effects for the unwashed masses?

[353] Oh my God.

[354] Well, it was supposed to be, it was designed as an elephant tranquilizer.

[355] That ain't the way it works in humans.

[356] It's a, it's a powerful hallucinogenic, but it gives people a feeling of superhuman strength.

[357] And they have it.

[358] They display it.

[359] You get a real thin sheen of perspiration and you get this glassy eye look just like this.

[360] That's how I look all the time.

[361] And, and, and these guys would, you know, throw five or six cops around.

[362] They would pull fire, stupid strength things.

[363] And quite frequently, they had to be shot because there was just, they wouldn't stop.

[364] I have a friend who got his finger bitten off when it was on PCP.

[365] So we got a call.

[366] Wilshire Sergeant was requesting a backup.

[367] It was just south of the station, south of LaBrean, Venice there, a few blocks.

[368] and we go rolling up.

[369] And here's this Sergeant Tim Wright was six foot five.

[370] He's just backed into a corner in this apartment.

[371] And here's this little bitty black guy about five foot eight, like Sammy Davis Jr. But he's holding like a 35 -inch color console television set above his head.

[372] Those things were heavy.

[373] I mean, he's, right away, you know it was dust.

[374] And I was known as the fire sergeant, Sergeant says, Rupert, get him.

[375] So like five of us went in there.

[376] you know, it was just like one of the cartoon melee things.

[377] Oh, God.

[378] We finally got him handcuffed and then flexicuffed around his ankles, you know, the plastic cuffs.

[379] Called an ambulance, put him on the gurney, two canvas straps on the gurney, one over like torso and one over thighs or knees.

[380] So we figure we got him.

[381] We take him out to the ambulance.

[382] Now, I stand up but, you know, when you're lifting the gurney to raise it into the ambulance, you pull it up to her.

[383] Oh, no. Oh, no. So he broke the canvas strap over his legs.

[384] Oh, my God.

[385] And everybody went back to his legs and then went, wow, he went like that.

[386] Oh, my God, he bit your ball sack.

[387] Holy shit.

[388] What is the recovery on something like that?

[389] It hurt a lot.

[390] Nothing was damaged, but the fear.

[391] It must have been horrific.

[392] Just like looking down for your first.

[393] time like hope it must have been horrific yeah yeah so yeah i wound up having the nickname of inspector cluzzo not now kato you know i got kneading the dick once in jiu jitsu and i didn't know how bad it was this before i used to wear a cup now i wear a cup smart man yeah and um i i didn't realize how bad it was until after i was done trying it fucking hurt like hell but i i figured it's just me being a bitch because i got hit in the dick you know like oh my poor dick and i'm Because that's how you think.

[394] Like, it's just, it's like it's extra sensitive.

[395] It's my baby.

[396] Are you wearing a dixie?

[397] I wasn't wearing anything.

[398] I was wearing a jockstrap.

[399] Oh, I didn't mean, I was wearing clothes.

[400] I should be kind of wrestling you doing, boy.

[401] And my friend Einstein was passing my guard and he slammed his knee.

[402] And, you know, he's trying to pass his knee through my legs.

[403] And he just miscalculated and caught my dick.

[404] And I didn't realize how bad it was until I was taking a leak after training.

[405] Oh, yeah.

[406] And blood was all over my jockstrap.

[407] My jockstrap was like, filled with blood.

[408] And I was like, oh, great, my dick's bleeding.

[409] This is awesome.

[410] So like a retard, I didn't even go to the doctor.

[411] Instead, what I did was I went to see if I could beat off.

[412] I'm like, well, if I could beat off, my dick has to be good.

[413] It can't be broken if I could beat off.

[414] And I beat off successfully.

[415] And it didn't even hurt that much.

[416] And when I came, it was like blood and come together.

[417] Like I had a chicken, like a little chicken egg.

[418] So I said, all right, well, let's see if this heals up.

[419] If it feels even a little bit funny tomorrow, I'm going to the doctor.

[420] So I peed blood for like two or three more days, but I felt great.

[421] So not they didn't, didn't, I was just checking for any inflammation or feeling of irritation or I think, you know, you just heal up.

[422] It's like, would I go to the doctor if I did that with my nose?

[423] And I mean, the answer was no. No. Because I've done it with my nose a hundred times.

[424] I would have drank a lot of orange juice and tried to make orange pee.

[425] You know what I mean?

[426] Try to make lemonade.

[427] Yeah.

[428] It would be like pink lemonade.

[429] But seriously, that's something that you probably didn't want to get it checked out because you didn't want them to have to put something in your penis hole or something like that.

[430] No, I didn't want to be a pussy.

[431] I mean, if it was my ear, I wouldn't go to the doctor.

[432] If it was my nose, why am I going to a doctor if it's my dick?

[433] I only want to go to the doctor if it's, like, infected.

[434] What are they going to do?

[435] What are they going to do?

[436] They're going to put a splint on it?

[437] Like Joey Diaz's a figure.

[438] Take two popsicle sticks and send it back in like a wounded soldier.

[439] I don't know what the fuck they would do.

[440] It was nothing wrong with it.

[441] It was just hurt, you know what I mean?

[442] It just needed to heal up.

[443] But if it was hurt, if it was more than that, I would have noticed after a while.

[444] Actually, I was pretty sensitive.

[445] That's a great physical metaphor for what happens emotionally a few times in your life.

[446] When you kick in the dick, yeah, you heal up, hopefully.

[447] Yeah, you heal up hopefully.

[448] Yeah, hopefully.

[449] That's a good physical metaphor for that.

[450] Yeah, it's very difficult for people to accept the idea that sometimes people don't want to be around them.

[451] You know, some people aren't meant for each other.

[452] They're fucking personality.

[453] These clash and that some people have different ideas.

[454] It's very difficult to find someone that you can hang with for any long period of time.

[455] We just got to learn to be nicer about the whole process, you know?

[456] It's the getting kicked in the dick emotionally.

[457] You've got to figure out how to cut back on that for you.

[458] You know, I had a party recently at my house, a little kids party, and a couple friends came over, including two friends that are exes, their ex -boyfriend and girlfriend, married to different people now but still great friends and it's so cool to see that when people can can act like that and can actually really be close friends like their kids play together they go out to dinner together you know they go on double dates together they're genuinely friends so it's it is possible but god damn for the most part most of them end up like fucking like those air shows where they touch wings and just fucking go into the crowd and a ball of fire you ever go to an air show man you ever go to an air show oh yeah i grew up in an air force family and uh i've i've been quite a few have you ever seen a wreck like that no thank god who what uh what kind of jets did you fly in i didn't my father did you've never been in one not not in a fighter jet no oh no i did i did a thing for the blue angels they would take celebrities up oh cool yeah we went seven and a half cheese yeah and they don't wear suits either man you know when they do their shit they don't like there's most places they wear um like some sort of a compression suit that allows you to deal with the pressure but they don't they don't wear them they just do it all with their their body you know they have to be like really in shape yeah it's just to handle it yeah all kinds of create me in gymnastics lifting weights you have to like really strengthen your body just to deal with the g force it's fucking incredible man the feeling is it's amazing how much pressure it is when you realize that like going fast doesn't just, it doesn't come free.

[459] Like, if you want to really go that fast, you have to move your body in a way that it's completely unaccustomed to moving through the universe.

[460] Like, the amount of pressure that comes from that kind of speed.

[461] It's like monumental.

[462] It's hard to even wrap your fucking head around.

[463] I love it.

[464] Dude, seven and a half Gs is insane.

[465] And it feels like consciousness, literally feels like an elevator door.

[466] You could see black on each side.

[467] It's a crazy feeling, man. But when they wreck, they wreck hard.

[468] Oh.

[469] I remember my dad was a radar intercept officer in F -89s and F -90s.

[470] Those are two -seat interceptors.

[471] He used to flap over the North Pole waiting for the Russians to attack during the Korean War.

[472] That was his mission.

[473] Wow.

[474] And we saw a few UFOs and some strange things.

[475] Jesus.

[476] Anyway.

[477] But so the worst, and it was all Air Force.

[478] So it was in late 70s, early 80s, the Thunderbirds were doing.

[479] uh a five formation loop ground loop and the something went off and all five flew straight into the ground oh my god and that was like that was like just go oh my god whoa oh my god holy shit that's crazy you know that's crazy yeah what happened how the fuck does that happen something i i i'm not going to say it wasn't my combination of pilot error and mechanics failure because everybody follows the lead oh my god nobody else is paying any attention to anything except the lead oh my god that's so crazy that is so fucking crazy yeah that's hard to even think about that's one of those things it's hard to wrap your head around you know what that must have been like to be a part of and know that it's happening like right before the fucking plane hits the ground yeah yeah they didn't even you know they might have had a microsecond to know the guy that uh took me on the blue angels flight was a bad motherfucker.

[480] I wish I could remember his name.

[481] I have it at home.

[482] It's on a signed photo but we went through these canyons and we were going, it was so fast it was ridiculous and we're only like a couple hundred feet off the ground and it's just when you realize what those things can do and just think about if you were on the ground and one of those motherfuckers was looking for you holy shit god damn that's scary one of those fighter jets looking for you while you're on the would have to be one of the most frightening things.

[483] Well, they fly too fast.

[484] I mean, this is where I have some expertise because of the life I've led hanging with some green beanie guys and, you know.

[485] They can't see anything?

[486] They fly too fast.

[487] They fly too fast.

[488] So you need helicopters.

[489] Yeah.

[490] Well, you would want a helo with a fleer forward looking at infrared radar for night.

[491] That's a third -gen night vision where you can pick out the heat moving very easily.

[492] Could they use like a blimp or something, just flip?

[493] loaded up above the sky and get a big view of the sky.

[494] They're doing all that shit.

[495] Are they really?

[496] They're doing that little microcopters and they got all the money.

[497] It's like Jack Nicholson and Batman.

[498] Where do they get all the toys, you know?

[499] Just, that's what they do.

[500] Why do they feel like they have to control things so much?

[501] Why is that?

[502] Why is there have to be so many, so much resources spent on this aspect of society?

[503] It's the infinite growth, monetary paradigm, but it's also people who, who have control, if you will.

[504] Some will call them the powers that be.

[505] I'm getting to call them the powers that were because they're failing monumentally.

[506] But they must maintain control.

[507] Otherwise, all of the crimes that have been committed for eons will come starkly clear to a lot of people all at once.

[508] That's like the awakening of the hundredth monkey.

[509] Like, holy shit, we re -human beings really have been farmed.

[510] What is that expression?

[511] breaking over the hundredth monkey, because I've heard it more than once.

[512] Well, that was in the dock collapse, and it, after the Second World War, and they were playing with the atom bombs, they wanted to see how long it would take to repopulate an island.

[513] So they went back to this island, and four or five years after, and then they introduced trees, and they got things growing, then they brought in like 10 ,000 monkeys to see how they would survive.

[514] there was enough for everything, but the coconuts were slightly radioactive on the husks.

[515] So the safe way to eat the coconut was to wash it in the stream.

[516] And they taught like 10 monkeys to wash the coconut.

[517] And then other monkeys look, and then pretty soon there's 15, and then 47, and then 200, or excuse me, 88.

[518] But when they reached the 100th monkey, all 10 ,000 got it all at once.

[519] everybody just went oh yeah okay so then they all started washing the coconuts yeah and and that's a that's a parable about you didn't tell me this story the last time you were here did you no no it was in the movie that's what it was okay um but uh so that's a metaphor that's a parable about a radical shift in consciousness and right now a radical shift in human consciousness is the only thing that can possibly possibly save us.

[520] And there's a part of me for all of the stuff that I've done bringing the bad news, which was my mission.

[521] That was my duty for like 30 years, was like to warn.

[522] And now the Fox Medicine spiritual message says they've had all the warnings they're going to get.

[523] But now I'm also very aware that this change of consciousness is happening.

[524] And I'm seeing enormously encouraging signs of that.

[525] One day we won't have to think about how we suddenly try to get governments to be honest or, you know, one day, listen, this government right now, one day is going to be embarrassing.

[526] It's going to be embarrassing.

[527] They're going to look back.

[528] It is.

[529] I agree.

[530] All of them have been.

[531] We're going to look back on this time with shame because the people that are running this country, this very small percentage of the people, they're not going to be able to maintain it.

[532] It's just, there's too much access to information these days.

[533] It's not the same animal as it was when this whole monster was created.

[534] If you look, Joe, anywhere in the world.

[535] Every government is failing.

[536] There is not a government anywhere in the world that's succeeding.

[537] Because the way they're set up is ridiculous.

[538] The whole thing is ridiculous.

[539] And after a while, people just, they can't take the inequity of it.

[540] People snap everywhere they were.

[541] Even this one, the best one there is.

[542] Without a doubt, I think America's the best set up there is.

[543] I love it here.

[544] It's the greatest country in the world.

[545] But, God damn, it could be better.

[546] It could be better by a million fold.

[547] It could easily be better.

[548] I don't think America can be fixed.

[549] That doesn't mean that I'm on American.

[550] What I mean is I think the United States of America, as it's operating now, is not fixing.

[551] Well, it's set up on a bullshit financial system.

[552] That's a real big part of it.

[553] It's utterly corrupt.

[554] I'm Thomas Jefferson here.

[555] I'm saying this, Thomas Jefferson said you need a revolution every generation.

[556] Have you ever thought about just moving to Hawaii saying, fuck you.

[557] You ever thought about doing that?

[558] No, no. No, I spent four months in Venezuela.

[559] That was an unusual story.

[560] But no, I'm where I'm up in Northern California.

[561] That's where I'm staying.

[562] Staying?

[563] Yeah.

[564] So the Astor comes.

[565] I'm planting my ass in there.

[566] They're going to have to come by the bulldozer and take me out of there.

[567] You're out there making it happen, dude.

[568] Are you sure that this is all going to fall apart, though?

[569] It is falling apart.

[570] But what is the possibility that something can happen that can pull us out of the fire?

[571] Something that's going to keep us from.

[572] slamming into the mountain.

[573] The only thing that can keep us from slamming into the mountain is for the human race collectively to see it slamming itself into the mountain and decide to do differently.

[574] It's got to be a change of consciousness.

[575] This is not going to be a message written in a letter put out in a broadcast, put out.

[576] Everybody's got to get it.

[577] I personally think the internet itself is very psychedelic in the fact that it's responsible for a massive expansion of human consciousness, not for.

[578] from a drug form, but from an information form.

[579] The fact that the access to information is so spectacular and so the whole viral aspect of it, I think that human beings right now, this is a very rare time.

[580] We're in a balancing act right now, but I think the information that we're getting from the internet is expanding consciousness as much almost as a drug would.

[581] As an influx, if you look back on like 19, between like 1994 and now what a massive change in our society has come about because of YouTube and Twitter and Facebook and the interconnectedness of society the massive extent of it is so much different than it was the evolution before that of on via the net are amazing amazing but I think that that's going to influence the the way the government works I think it's going to influence who are the people that are in positions of power I think that's slowly going to to root out the old.

[582] The old system that's in place was all these fuckers were around before the internet.

[583] All of them, except Obama.

[584] The old system.

[585] Obama, you know, he should have been just a little bit old.

[586] He's a little bit older than me. So he was a grown man while the internet came out.

[587] He should have, maybe it was too late for him too.

[588] Maybe it's one more generation after this where they realize you can't fucking lie anymore because there's new technology that lets you read thoughts and then everything has to be done transparently.

[589] I don't think it's going to take anywhere near that long.

[590] This old system, is going to collapse because it will be satisfied with nothing less.

[591] It's seeking its own death.

[592] It's doing everything to kill itself.

[593] Intellectually, anything running this world right now is being defeated.

[594] Do you think that's because the current people are greedy and they're just looking out for themselves?

[595] They're trying to just score short -term and just get out because that's where the money's at, Michael Rupert.

[596] I think that they're trying to...

[597] That was good, right?

[598] It was good.

[599] I think that they're trying to do anything they can to hold on to what power and what information they have because they do not want the power or the information that they have to be shared and it's a total desperation move and they're going to fail if I was a doctor for the world and I looked at this problem and I was like hmm well I see what you got this is this a bunch of cunts that haven't done mushrooms and they're running things that's what it at you have a bunch of old greedy fuckheads that are that are just unpsychadically inclined they've never had consciousness expanding experiences They don't know the beauty and the love that you get from a psychedelic experience with friends where you realize how much of the way you behave and live and interact with people.

[600] It's just an insecurity.

[601] It's just stupidity.

[602] It's nonsense.

[603] I'm not sure that would cure everything.

[604] It would cure it all, baby, or...

[605] I'd like you have 7 billion doses of DMT.

[606] Yeah, I think it would kill the ego.

[607] I mean, that's really what you have to do.

[608] There you go.

[609] You have to kill the ego.

[610] That's the dilemma.

[611] That's the issue.

[612] And that's why I'm writing a third book now because...

[613] Well, that's why everybody hates a chicken hawk.

[614] You know, the idea of someone who wants to send people into battle that's never been in battle themselves.

[615] Well, of course you're so confident.

[616] Of course you're so aggressive about this.

[617] This is not yours to risk.

[618] You know, it's the ego has not...

[619] You don't understand what war is.

[620] Maybe if you had been there, you would have a completely different sort of appreciation of it.

[621] You wouldn't be so callous and it wouldn't be such an easy option.

[622] No, I've come to a darker conclusion than that, Joe, and that is that these people literally look at us as cattle, expendable cattle that have been farmed for millennia.

[623] This is real or well.

[624] This is what it really is all about.

[625] Human beings are born and bred to be slaves and consumers to generate wealth, and that's the way it's always been roughly since we started doing money this way.

[626] Who are they?

[627] Is it a they or is it just a series of shit choices that have left us in a situation where people are copying things?

[628] You know, there was a thing we talked about really recently on this show about the Salem Witch Trials.

[629] So the Salem Witch Trials, there was a woman who wrote a paper for a history class that sort of solved one of the major puzzles of the Salem Witchcraft trials.

[630] And it was that there was an ergot poisoning of food.

[631] It was causing people to have LSD type.

[632] effects and that they thought that this was responsible for the original murders, but then they kept it up as a tradition for years later.

[633] Then it became a hysteria.

[634] And then even though people weren't even ergod poison, it would actually become learned behavior.

[635] And I think that in situations like where you have greedy business people, and they set up corporations, and there's patterns of learned behavior that come about from the way these corporations interact with their consumers and the environment that they have their businesses set up in, and that this momentum gets carried away to a point where the greed and the bottom line supersedes human nature.

[636] It supersedes the idea that you are a group of people.

[637] And, you know, in the documentary, the corporation, they went over this, that a corporation tends to act as a sociopath.

[638] Well, I think we just have to make everyone aware of the accountability of their actions in that situation and remove that.

[639] remove that as a design remove that that that diffusion of responsibility that you can get by being a part of a big group that does something really fucked up but you don't feel responsible from because you're just one piece from from my spiritual perspective and let me just add that my DMT journey my my my hands just went crazy what'd you do to my headphones what happened what happened my cans just went I went into an echo chamber it's cool you're right you're right now it's on right now I don't hear anything okay it's a fox match you never it's fine But, yeah.

[640] That's my dog, that's, that's, that's, that's my dog, that's, that's, that's, that's awesome.

[641] For the folks listening on iTunes, there was a photo of him.

[642] Michael, with his dog and he's got the glasses on and I got to deal with it.

[643] And his dog is a fox face.

[644] That's brilliant.

[645] Oh, that's very funny, that's awesome.

[646] DMT trip on the message.

[647] I want a copy of that.

[648] What is his name, DMT?

[649] DMT underscore, D .M .T underscore trip.

[650] Thank you, buddy.

[651] I don't know if he made it, but whatever.

[652] What was I talking about?

[653] Fox magic?

[654] Somehow another it came up.

[655] What were we talking about?

[656] Oh, DMT.

[657] I approach that very spiritually.

[658] I do medicine journeys as part of my spiritual practice.

[659] And it's very important for me that I always approach medicine with a clear intent.

[660] And it's always to seek and learn something.

[661] You better.

[662] Yeah.

[663] You better respect it.

[664] You have to respect psychedelic trips.

[665] If you think you're the shit and you can handle it, it'll fuck out.

[666] throw you.

[667] There's a lot of people I spend days preparing.

[668] I don't do that.

[669] Well, there's a lot of people that, well, listen to man, if you left hammers around, a lot of people are going to use them to build houses, some people are going to break car windows with them.

[670] Some people are just going to hit trees.

[671] Well, even close friends of ours is like, it's like, they go do it and go to the UFC and I'm like, man, that's crazy.

[672] Like, you don't want, do you really want that?

[673] You do, if you were Joey Diaz.

[674] You do.

[675] I would say yes.

[676] I would say if you didn't do it, what are you a pussy?

[677] If you're a real, Hunter S. Thompson fan.

[678] You're a fan of Hunter S. Thompson and Joey Diaz wants to do mushrooms with you at the UFC.

[679] Two fucking mushrooms with you.

[680] What are you crazy?

[681] Of course.

[682] That's not respecting the spiritual trip to me. The fuck it isn't.

[683] What a grand opportunity that is in life to do mushrooms at the UFC with Joey Diaz.

[684] God damn it, that's the best seat in the house.

[685] I thought I had the best seat in the house as a commentator.

[686] I don't.

[687] The best seat in the house is the dude who gets to eat mushrooms next to Joey Diaz at the UFC.

[688] Because you know how funny Joey Diaz would be on Mushroom?

[689] He would kill me. It would be a non -stop chuckle fest.

[690] Everyone would just be howling laughing, and you'd get to watch the UFC at the same time.

[691] I might have a panic attack.

[692] Sounds like the greatest day on earth.

[693] You might have a panic attack.

[694] I think that it's just too many people.

[695] I like being with nature.

[696] If I'm going to go on any kind of spiritual trip, I want nature.

[697] I want to be able to escape.

[698] I like how you're talking about spiritual trips where you smoke and a cigarette.

[699] It is a spiritual trip.

[700] It's just not, it's a shitty one.

[701] It's a tobacco trip.

[702] It is if you're a native.

[703] Yeah, sure.

[704] Tobacco holds a, there's a, there's a, strong ritual for tobacco.

[705] Well, it also is a part of the ayahuasca ritual for some reason.

[706] Like a lot of ayahuasca eros I think that's how they say them.

[707] They blow tobacco smoke on people.

[708] It's part of the whole thing.

[709] Yeah, I mean, nicotine, or the tobacco in of itself, and even nicotine is proven to have some really positive health effects.

[710] I think there's something about nicotine that actually is like good for your heart.

[711] It's not nicotine.

[712] It's really the problem.

[713] It's like caffeine.

[714] Caffeine's not bad if you have just a little bit.

[715] If you're fucking crazy, you're drinking red bulls all day and just check this i'm i'm i'm 61 okay i smoke i everybody knows that okay my uh i i just had a physical resting blood pressure was 60 or blood pulse rate was 60 that's incredible resting that's really good blood pressure was 120 over 70 in really good do you in really good i eat really really really good and and then i exercise as much i'm weed Whacking two and a half acres now.

[716] So that's work.

[717] That is work.

[718] You know.

[719] Yeah.

[720] I mean, you know, George Foreman, when he was training for fights, used to chop wood.

[721] It's a well -known fact.

[722] You know, it's like real work.

[723] Real work is hard work.

[724] No shit.

[725] That gets you in shape, man. That's a pretty low resting heart rate, though.

[726] Yeah.

[727] So, you know, what I'm saying is I'm just real sick of buying into all the propaganda.

[728] I'm sold about everything.

[729] Because the way the people that run this world operate is, They do it 90 % truth and 10 % bullshit.

[730] And because you're not trained to separate the bullshit, the bullshit winds up steering you.

[731] One of my favorite articles that came out during the time that the Patriot Act was administered.

[732] It was on CNN.

[733] They were talking about how the CIA has announced that it's going to leak fake news stories in order to send terrorists in the wrong direction.

[734] And I remember reading that.

[735] And I was like, wow, that's like game over.

[736] Like, they just came out and said, we're going to lie to you.

[737] That was right at the same time that CNN let it be known that the Department of Defense was permanently stationing military intelligence personnel in the CNN newsroom.

[738] Whoa.

[739] I screamed about that at From the Wilderness.

[740] That was my newsletter for eight years.

[741] We had some great people there.

[742] We were just kicking Bush Cheney in the balls every chance we could get.

[743] Why was it from the wilderness?

[744] Why did you call it from the wilderness?

[745] Because for my personal story, I had been trying to expose CIA.

[746] I was bringing drugs into the country for like 18 years, and nobody had listened to me. Then Gary Webb's stories broke, and I confronted the CIA director at Locke High School, and the game changed a little bit.

[747] So I started FTW like a year and a half after I confronted John Deutsch.

[748] And I was a voice crying in the wilderness, but I was the guy from the wilderness that nobody had listened to.

[749] And then, you know, and so that came to stand for over the course of my career, many hundreds of people and organizations who were all voices in the wilderness, and nobody was listening to.

[750] And damn, we got it all right, you know, and there's some just amazing people I've met along the way.

[751] It's an interesting name.

[752] I remember when I first found out about it, I was like, what the fuck is, what's that in the wilderness?

[753] I was like, it sounds very unabomber -esque.

[754] You know, like you're out there.

[755] This was before.

[756] Staring at the disease society out in the distance.

[757] Yeah, no. This was just, hey, you know, pay attention.

[758] We were pretty successful.

[759] We got to have 60 members of Congress, and we broke the Pat Tillman.

[760] The whole cover -up with Pat Tillman was a seven -part series we did at FTW.

[761] And that's one of the good things now for me about giving collapse to that over to the employees.

[762] I didn't get a chance to do that with FTW because our computers were smashed in the Tillman series.

[763] I mean, police falsified reports, leaked to editors who were having sex with children and defrauding it, and they really threw everything, but including the kitchen sink at me up in Ashland War.

[764] Link to editors that what?

[765] What was that?

[766] There was, my computers were smashed in part five of the Tillman series.

[767] That's right when we were nailing Donald Rumsfeld, and he was eventually forced to resign.

[768] He was forced to resign because of the patent.

[769] Tillmanence?

[770] Yeah.

[771] That was what did it?

[772] He just resigned real suddenly, right, when Henry Waxman's Committee on Governmental Affairs was getting ready to call him.

[773] What was the issue that he had created?

[774] First of all, if you wanted to have a bad guy in like a Batman movie that was like a bad government guy that was actually evil, would not Donald Rumsfeld to be the fucking perfect guy?

[775] Dick Cheney's right up there.

[776] He's right up there, too.

[777] Both of them.

[778] But so what exactly took place?

[779] Well, we eventually nailed it.

[780] The series was being written by Stan Goff, who was my military affairs editor at From the Willardus.

[781] Stan's a retired master sergeant from U .S. Army Special Forces Delta.

[782] Stan taught at West Point.

[783] Stan is just one of the most amazing writers and human beings and really cool people I've ever met in my whole life.

[784] And a brilliant guy.

[785] And Pat Tillman's mom, Danny, contacted me trying to get in touch with Stan.

[786] And I immediately said we'd publish anything.

[787] And I drove down to the Tillman House in south of the Bay and copied overnight 2 ,200 pages of Army records that she had been given, all redacted, you know, all blacked out and pages and stuff.

[788] But they were in files and sections and all this stuff.

[789] So I returned the papers and drove back up to my offices and I flew Stan Gough into Ashland, Oregon.

[790] and we Stan did most of the work but absolutely because Stan knew it all so he decoded the documents and figured out who was who and what was what and where was where I caught some things that helped but Stan wrote the seven part series that proved that that Pat had been killed by friendly fire at close range and the Silver Star awarded him was, I think that that was probably the most offensive thing for many in the military was that that silver star was fake.

[791] That just destroys the value of the silver star.

[792] And so we broke that story.

[793] And this is similar to what they, I mean, it's been the Jessica Lynch story that changed that story around to it.

[794] Apparently any story that gets released, any big story gets doctored up favorably.

[795] and so this one was an unfortunate incident it wasn't a murder right no one's claiming it was a murder oh no i i think i think dany believes that it's possible that that her son was murdered i think she said so she said so to me um i it could not have been premeditated uh because it was in a fubar situation there it was not really combat it was an exaggerated stage play in some respects uh there had been some incoming fire but it was like three 400 yards away, a couple of Mudge fired a couple of rounds and ran away.

[796] And here a whole lot of Rangers, just start opening up on a lot of everything all at once.

[797] It's basically the way that played.

[798] But Pat Tillman's last words, when he stood up, before he took a three -round burst from a saw, squad automatic weapon, right here.

[799] I mean, it just took his head off.

[800] Where, I'm Pat fucking Tillman!

[801] And that's not disputed.

[802] That's fully in the record.

[803] Oh, who was the guy that pulled the trigger?

[804] It was a sergeant in his cereal.

[805] What was he just, was he on edge or was he trying to kill him?

[806] I can only speculate here.

[807] If you had a speculation.

[808] Pat was a really smart guy and he was honorable.

[809] He had seen that that the war was all fucked up.

[810] It was all lies that, you know, and he was disheartened.

[811] Now here he was a pro football star, right?

[812] And, and, uh, quits the NFL.

[813] A huge move to join the Army to defend his country because he thinks that, you know, everything that you see in the movies is how it works out, and you're supposed to rise up when your country gets attacked as a patriotic American.

[814] He wanted to do his part.

[815] Well, let me just continue with that a little bit.

[816] And he kept a diary, and so there would naturally be fear that he would come back, rejoin the NFL, and start bad mouth in the government.

[817] But that didn't really factor into it.

[818] That could have been controlled in many other ways than that.

[819] Pat hung around frequently with special forces, and that's kind of a no -no in theater because one group does what they do, and anyway, that's just the way it works.

[820] And I think he was something of a grandstander, you know, a little bit.

[821] So I think he was making a lot of noise, and he was pissing some people off, and he was complaining about how fucked up things were.

[822] And somebody might have put it to him.

[823] Yeah.

[824] And I think he became a ranger before he became a soldier.

[825] And maybe only rangers would understand that, or S .F. would understand that.

[826] But it's a totally Shakespearean tragedy.

[827] I mean, it's just like so fucked up all the way around for everybody.

[828] Yeah.

[829] Did you ever hear the eulogy, the brother gave?

[830] It's pretty intense, too.

[831] I think it was something to an extent of Pat's not in heaven Pat's fucking dead Something along those lines You know he's an atheist or something I'm glad you didn't know him Because then he would have like Lipstick all over him And they had Pictures Like I don't even want to joke about this I don't even want to joke about it Unfortunately But you'd joke about I almost I came close to But you'd joke about it with me And you didn't know Not if your head got blown off If your head got blown off I wouldn't put a big dick like damn should try to suck it a smaller dick it blew your head off bitch that'd be the last thing I would do for you but you know Pat Tillman's like an American hero right the whole thing was sad it was very it was um you know it was sad that he he you know he chose to jump in and uh it was sad that it wasn't what he thought it was the truth is is that everything about those wars the the post 9 -11 wars Everything about those wars is fucked up.

[832] And when you start off with everything on the floor you're building on, that fucked up, the war that takes place on top of that field can't be anything but more compoundedly fucked up.

[833] Right.

[834] How do you have a just war when you go into it with, you know, ulterior motives?

[835] And lies.

[836] Yeah.

[837] It's amazing that there's a lot like a fucking army of people in jail right now.

[838] You know, it's amazing.

[839] It's amazing that they can get away with that level of corruption and not be.

[840] accountable it's really but but they do in the world of ones and zeros you know the cartesian world measurable matter and of course we know there's such a thing as spirit there's things other than matter but they operate as if everything is matter that's what we got to do man we got to bring them into the light that's what we got to do that's the solution to all of it it's not it's like not even fight them it's like they are us they're just us in the worst case scenario and the worst possible position doing the wrong thing exactly I think that we are at one of the most epical times in human history, perhaps all of human history.

[841] And I really believe that what I said in the movie is happening, that our species is being forced to choose, whether to evolve or to perish, to grow up or fucking die.

[842] Well, it's obvious when you look at what we're doing as far as like sucking fish out of the ocean and depleting resources and polluting things.

[843] It's like we're certainly not doing it in a sustainable way right now.

[844] And now I don't think it's impossible.

[845] If we kept the population exactly how it is right now, it might even be possible to run the world the way it is and use the resources.

[846] It might be possible.

[847] As we move along, if it's not, how are we doing it right now?

[848] We are overextended.

[849] But we're doing it right now.

[850] No, no. We are about, everything is imploding right now.

[851] Right.

[852] But right now, we're doing fine.

[853] Right now we have electricity.

[854] I'm on the internet.

[855] We have food.

[856] Okay.

[857] It's not everybody.

[858] This is, sure.

[859] This is the ego bomb because this is where I've had the hardest trouble getting through to people, because they'll say, how long do we have, when is it going to happen?

[860] Right.

[861] And subconsciously, all they're really saying is how long before it fucks with me. Yeah.

[862] How long before I'm uncomfortable.

[863] Exactly.

[864] I don't want to read books by candlelight.

[865] Like, here we are, but, you know, that's why CollapseNet exists, because we bear witness to the fact that all over Pakistan, cities are having blackouts.

[866] Like I said that, by the way.

[867] It was very authentic.

[868] Pakistan?

[869] Blackouts lasting weeks at a time, same in Mindanao, India major power blackouts.

[870] Civilization is collapsing all around the world, and just because people choose not to hold it in their consciousness, don't mean it ain't going on.

[871] So you recognize it as an inescapable trend that only a shift in consciousness can alter.

[872] So if the shift of consciousness occurred, how would that alter?

[873] What would be the correct thing to do?

[874] If the human population was brought into the light and everybody sort of figured it out and said, hey, we have to act responsibly and stop being a bunch of greedy cunts, what would we do?

[875] I think it would all spring from a fundamental overriding.

[876] awareness, not a conviction belief, just awareness.

[877] You know, you're living it, you know, of the oneness of everything, of the connectedness of everything.

[878] That's the place where you start.

[879] And once you do that, among other things, you overcome the pairs of opposites.

[880] Good, bad, rich, poor, fat, then, whatever, you know, this world of duality.

[881] And I think there's some amazing work being done in quantum physics that is totally bearing this out.

[882] There's some amazing research out.

[883] Amit Gotwami is a quantum physicist and great book out by David Wilcock and other stuff that, a lot of stuff that I kind of became aware of along the way.

[884] So there's, I think the awareness of that, once it comes or at flowers, in the species.

[885] And pray God's spirit, it does soon.

[886] We will just automatically stop doing all the stuff that we're doing that's turning this planet into a living hell.

[887] Come on, the Gulf of Mexico is totally destroyed.

[888] They got shrimp with their guts hanging out in one eye and an eye in their ass and crabs with half a shell.

[889] I mean, we've been running the photos of this on, you know, on collapse net.

[890] Climatologically, there are plumes two, one, two kilometers across 20, 30 of them of methane venting directly up from tundra in Siberia.

[891] I mean, it's like methane is 20 times more powerful of greenhouse gas than CO2.

[892] This mess is out of control.

[893] It's going to come crashing down.

[894] The only thing, because by calculation, I had a guest on my radio.

[895] show.

[896] Great guy.

[897] A professor from Arizona state is, I'm having a brain fart on his name.

[898] It'll come up in a minute.

[899] Thank you very much.

[900] But climatologically, there's an incredible study that says you have to stop all economic activity now or else everything dies irreversibly as a result of temperature rise.

[901] It's hard science.

[902] So, you know, on all these fronts, with all that stuff happening, I just stood back and I went, this train wreck cannot be prevented at this level of consciousness.

[903] The only thing that can save us now literally is a miracle.

[904] Right, a miracle, a revolution of human consciousness.

[905] But if that does happen, if there's revelation, this revolution, whatever you would want to call it, if that did happen, what would we do?

[906] How would we fix everything?

[907] That just seems to me that we have to ship things, okay?

[908] We have to move, we have to manufacture shit, we have to move it around places because people need stuff.

[909] You know, you got to get food to supermarkets.

[910] You got to keep growing it.

[911] You got to keep a good cycle going on.

[912] So you got to burn something.

[913] You got to use somethings got to run those engines.

[914] And then on top of that, you have to have at least public transportation.

[915] And then people are going to want to have cars.

[916] Okay, how are you going to get all this shit?

[917] Drives you crazy thinking about that, don't it?

[918] Well, it's amazing that we got so out of hand.

[919] We got as a society where like, it's like someone who was just out of college and you gave them an unlimited master card and you don't have to pay for the first year and they just fucking went bananas you know they went bananas to the point where it's completely unsustainable and then you realize you have this debt of the way you're living it's just like so disproportionate to your resources here's the ultimate kicker to all of us there are not enough resources in the world to pay off the debt that has been printed since 2008 all the bailouts are debt so all the resources in the world like as far all the gold, all the diamonds, all the oil.

[920] How about iron and copper and food?

[921] But energy is the first resource because without energy, you can't use anything else.

[922] So that's amazing.

[923] So how is that possible that we have an economy that's not based on entirely what anything could be worse?

[924] That just shows you how completely full of shit the whole idea of the economy is.

[925] If all the resources of the world and you owe more than that, someone got fucked.

[926] someone someone fucked you out of the whole world plus think about that think about how strong the fuckery is in this economy that is so bad that literally we owe more than there is value in anything in the world to pay off it costs more to make a penny than a penny's worth the same thing I mean it's seriously that's but here's here's possible here's the catch too all of that is founded on a premise of infinite growth.

[927] Wow.

[928] Infinite growth on a finite planet is not possible.

[929] With finite resources.

[930] Have you ever read Black Gold Stranglehold?

[931] Do you know the premise behind that?

[932] Oh, that was, who was that?

[933] Was that your own course?

[934] No, that was, I don't remember that.

[935] That was a disinfo book.

[936] Was it really?

[937] I had it on my disinfo show.

[938] Really?

[939] Yeah.

[940] So it was a book that was, it did sound completely ridiculous.

[941] I was like, well, how do you?

[942] This is the only guy that knows it.

[943] The premise was that oil was not a byproduct of fossil fuels like everybody.

[944] Oh, a biotic, yeah.

[945] Yeah, that it was a process of the, it was like literally the blood of the earth.

[946] Earth has an endlessly filled creamy nougat center that will satisfy your every desire for as long as your kinky ass should crave it.

[947] What dirty, evil vampire cunts people are.

[948] We just suck the oil out of the earth until it's dead.

[949] That's what we're doing.

[950] We're running our entire crazy business on the blood of the earth.

[951] And that's exactly what it is, too.

[952] Yeah, it is the blood of the earth.

[953] Oil is life.

[954] All we're doing is burning ancient sunlight that was stored in life.

[955] It's all solar energy in one form of another on this planet.

[956] That's so crazy when you really stop and think about it like that.

[957] It is.

[958] God, it's amazing.

[959] It's amazing when you really think about what it is.

[960] Why do you think the natives call it Father Sky?

[961] Because they were dumb.

[962] They didn't know about planets.

[963] There's a lot of shit they didn't know.

[964] Oh, yes, they did.

[965] They didn't even have fucking horses, man. We had to give them horses.

[966] Settled out.

[967] Maybe.

[968] That might be all fake.

[969] Listen, man, those are the people that came across the Bering Strait.

[970] And it was proven recently, actually, when this Mormon dude tried to flex, because he, in the Mormon book of Mormon, whatever the fuck of that nonsense that Joseph Smith character wrote when he was 14 years old that everybody followed along with, it was said that they believe that the American Indian was actually the lost tribe of Israel and that he was going to prove it with a genetic test so he ran a DNA sequence on the American Indian and most of it is actually Asian most American Indians are actually they came down from the Bering Strait.

[971] Siberia 1860s running a DNA test what?

[972] No no no recently ran a DNA test on American Indians to find out the origin because if they were Israeli He could like, see, this is the lost tribe of Israel, if they were Semitic.

[973] And, you know, he could, I guess they could find that out.

[974] But it was not.

[975] It was the most likely that they were Asian.

[976] Religions are business.

[977] And I really think overall Christianity had the best business plan.

[978] That's what it boils down to.

[979] Yeah.

[980] But what's happening now is people are also beginning to understand that part of this great awakening is that many of us are returning to wisdom that existed before.

[981] the word religion even existed.

[982] It was the knowledge of the ancients living in direct connection with this planet and everything on it.

[983] You can absolutely learn from other people's revelations that are written down and recorded.

[984] But the moment that people start attaching gods to them, you're talking about a bunch of shit, you don't really know what the fuck you're talking about.

[985] If you're a human being, then you really don't know what you're saying.

[986] You're saying a bunch of nonsense.

[987] You know, either you learn something or you didn't.

[988] but when you start thinking about things like Mormons or Scientologists or anything where it's like just even a whiff of crazy, it's like, how do you address that?

[989] Do you allow it to happen?

[990] Because I'll tell you, I've never met nicer folks than Mormons.

[991] Some of the nicest people I know are Mormons.

[992] They have a great sense of community in the Mormon church.

[993] I've actually been to services before because I had friends over Mormon.

[994] I've been to a Mormon funeral before.

[995] They're very polite and nice people.

[996] And if you wanted to find like a religion where you said, well, here's a. religion, it looks like it enhances family life a little bit.

[997] They do a lot of things together.

[998] There's probably a lot of benefits to it when you get past the fact that it's based on some nonsense fairy tale written by a young con man. Mormons are also very, very, very smart in that they have focused on food storage and food preparation for a long time.

[999] And that is the single most critical factor for who's going to make it and who's not.

[1000] There you go, dude, you have to bring everything back to the end of the world.

[1001] doom and gloom well no we need to take you to we might have a wake -up before that was the last time you're at Disneyland man oh my god you know it works today but you should go to Disneyland before like fucking planet of the ape style collapse of civilization happens and you're out there mad max in it and you're fucking biodiesel truck and you pass by the Disneyland when Anaheim is a fucking ghost town and you have to get in the car because the zombies are coming this sounds like a movie yeah it's a movie pretty good movie Woody Halson would be it's like what was that zombie land zombie land zombie land Deuce.

[1002] Zombieland Deuce.

[1003] Go Disneyland, bring some Fox Magic.

[1004] Yeah, just fuck up some zombies at Disneyland.

[1005] Actually, you know, if there were places to party, I can think of a couple more.

[1006] I'd rather party.

[1007] Disneyland's beautiful.

[1008] Disneyland's fun.

[1009] It's a great place.

[1010] Did you end up going the other day?

[1011] Yeah, that was awesome.

[1012] Yeah, I want to go there.

[1013] Yeah, you go during the weekday, man, it's great.

[1014] Did you use the app?

[1015] Did you try the app?

[1016] No, no, it was really the lines were easy.

[1017] Well, I go on little kid rides.

[1018] It's a totally different experience.

[1019] I'm not waiting for Space Mountain.

[1020] I'm waiting like 10 minutes to go on the submarine.

[1021] The submarine.

[1022] I like the teacups that you spend.

[1023] Yeah, kids love teacups.

[1024] Those are fun.

[1025] Those are fun.

[1026] Disneyland's fun.

[1027] When they're your kids, it's really an amazing thing that happens when you have kids, is that you get the actual joy of them having joy.

[1028] It's really strange.

[1029] Like I used to see kids having fun and I'd go, oh, that kid looks like he's having fun.

[1030] That looks awesome.

[1031] And it would make me feel good.

[1032] But it doesn't make you feel good like you're a little kid experiencing the happiness.

[1033] When you have a kid and they're happy, like, jumping around and laughing and having a good thing, you actually experience that feeling.

[1034] It's like you live through it.

[1035] It's amazing.

[1036] You know what I don't like?

[1037] I don't like when kids have that thing where they, out of nowhere, they just like start grabbing on your leg and like holding on to you and you're like a random stranger kid.

[1038] You're at the yard or something like that.

[1039] They're just grabbing it.

[1040] Yeah, it's uncomfortable.

[1041] You're like, oh, I'm going to get your kid.

[1042] What do I do with it?

[1043] Do I start documenting like, nothing happened?

[1044] Nothing happened.

[1045] Does it bite?

[1046] Yeah.

[1047] Well, I don't want to pick your kid up and have you weird out too.

[1048] Right.

[1049] Because if some dude just picked up your kid, you'd be like, hey, man. What are you doing with the baby?

[1050] What's up?

[1051] See, what a commentary on this world.

[1052] Well, yeah, absolutely.

[1053] You know, people would go automatically there.

[1054] But there's so many of us.

[1055] There's so many of us that the amazing spectrum of human behavior, there are possibilities you can run into people that are completely crazy.

[1056] We all have in our day.

[1057] Yeah.

[1058] You know, in the world of martial arts and fighters and I've run into some fucking crazy people.

[1059] I'm sure your world takes that to the next level.

[1060] times 10, you know, being a police officer in Los Angeles and all the shit that you've seen.

[1061] I mean, you're, you're like, douchebag to nice people ratio that you saw in your line on your line of duty.

[1062] Oh, yeah.

[1063] It's fucking hard to keep a cheerful profile.

[1064] Well, that's one of the, there's a Jesuit mystic named Anthony DeMello, and he has a great line.

[1065] He says, there comes a point in your life when your options are to either go stark, and saying commit suicide or become a mystic I want to be a mystic yeah well you are man really I think I wouldn't want to be like the silver surfer dude yeah I want a silver surfer reboot if you could yeah yeah I want it to be like digital like tron style like where it's like like when he's flying there's like digital I enjoyed the first silver surfer it's good movie yeah reboot that who owns that marvel or the other company I don't know silver but it was wasn't it a part of the Avengers or no not the Avengers rather Fantastic Four?

[1066] No. Fantastic Four.

[1067] Where was the last Silver Surfer?

[1068] I want to say it was in one of the Fantastic Four movies.

[1069] No, I was thinking X -Men.

[1070] X -Men.

[1071] Maybe it was that.

[1072] Yeah, it is X -Men.

[1073] You sure?

[1074] Yeah, yeah.

[1075] It's in one of the X -Men movies.

[1076] Yeah, yeah.

[1077] Got to find out which one.

[1078] Fantastic Four was just that brick dude and that stretchy dude.

[1079] Yeah.

[1080] That was like...

[1081] Silver Surfer wasn't involved in that?

[1082] I don't think so because I...

[1083] I feel like he was.

[1084] I think Silver Surfer was straight, wasn't he?

[1085] I think he's like your God or something.

[1086] I don't remember the story behind it.

[1087] You thought you were going to come on for a serious discussion about the end of the world, didn't you, silly man?

[1088] No, that's all right.

[1089] It's okay.

[1090] This is like a download.

[1091] I'm just checking what's going on in the universe around here.

[1092] Well, listen, I just think it's possible that a lot of people, okay, here's a funny thing.

[1093] When you're worried about the end of the world, you worried about the collapse of civilization.

[1094] And in the meanwhile, people see you smoking cigarettes.

[1095] And they go, if you want to stay, healthy and happy why are you poisoning yourself deal with it that would now be a meme that will now be a meme that will now be a meme that will spread spread across the internet beautiful but I mean I was talking with my friend Duncan about this we were talking about people who are like looking for chem trails while they're smoking cigarettes they're fucking poisoning me from the sky you're poisoning yourself too doesn't matter you enjoy it i i am what i am off you know at 61 years of age after all the shit that i've done in my life and i'm alive and healthy i got wounds and scars and i don't go there and it's like just need that cigarette he's got a paceman shop on the if civilization falls apart do you have a stockpile of cigarettes are you just going to quit i don't have a huge stockpile i'll ration i'll quit if i have to wow would that be the biggest thing that you would miss about civilization or would it be the internet oh i would not i'm tired of the internet dude i need to you're tired of the internet i need to i'm getting there i'm getting you're tired of the internet too both you guys are pussies you should go go in a room together and make out i'm taking the fuck you're talking about i love the internet it's the greatest thing that human nature has ever invented well that's where you're clicking right now but see i'm i'm starting to click in a different direction i'm starting to click i'm moving more to live in my spiritual my inner life and and building my own lifeboat.

[1096] It sounds like you need a night of the town.

[1097] You need hookers and tequila.

[1098] That's what you need.

[1099] You need a limo and an Asian driver and knows how to weave through traffic.

[1100] No, I think I'd rather just have a big party at my house where we cook a leg of lamb and all sit around and eat and smoke a little herb to eat organic food and then...

[1101] And then Bigfoot makes it to the party.

[1102] And then anybody wants to go off and make love to say, you just do it.

[1103] Don't you live up in Bigfoot country?

[1104] There's Bigfoot sightings up there, are there?

[1105] Northern California?

[1106] I don't think so.

[1107] Have you ever been to a swinger party?

[1108] Kind of yes and kind of no. It was like, yeah, I guess I have.

[1109] Like you didn't know going in, but then it turned into one kind of thing.

[1110] It broke out in the middle of it.

[1111] Wow.

[1112] Yeah.

[1113] I wouldn't go to one.

[1114] Yeah.

[1115] You'd think that until dudes are trying to fuck you.

[1116] No, I wouldn't do that.

[1117] Come on, man. What's the hang up, man?

[1118] Let me put in your butt, man. no man let me fuck your wife let's get out of here is that a broomstick trying to have too much yeah Burbank style I got a feeling that broomstick story's gonna spread I would imagine it would get on the internet now that's a ridiculous way to die well I have another one okay it's pretty good get a call to a dead body in an ambulance suicide in the jungle in Wilshire division then and we roll up and here's this dead guy in an easy chair it's kind of like this and I walk up and look and wrists are slashed bled out but then I look up and his throat's also slashed think about that his wife was saying she committed suicide you cannot slash your own throne and slash your own wrists can you do risk You can't do it?

[1119] She went to jail for murder.

[1120] He had been beaten her for so many years, and she just lost it one day.

[1121] And, you know, 8 million tragic stories, but he was definitely not a suicide.

[1122] Why can't you do that?

[1123] Why can't you slash your own throat and then cut your own wrist?

[1124] What can you do wrist and then throat?

[1125] You'll bleed out too fast.

[1126] You'll bleed out too fast.

[1127] Whoa.

[1128] The movies make it seem like you could, like, actually play a piano song before you die.

[1129] She must have been a badass bitch, though, if she could pull that off.

[1130] Cut a guy's wrist and his neck.

[1131] It's amazing.

[1132] People get tired of you kicking their ass.

[1133] It's amazing what rage can do, you know.

[1134] It's a bunch of fucking assholes out there.

[1135] We have to stop that, Michael Rupert.

[1136] That's my number one goal in life lately.

[1137] So figure out how to diminish the amount of assholes in the world.

[1138] It's possible.

[1139] Hey, I began.

[1140] Get off the internet.

[1141] Get off the internet?

[1142] That's the secret.

[1143] I became a cop trying to do that.

[1144] And, you know, clearly that's a losing battle.

[1145] That was your motivation to become a police officer to try to make a difference?

[1146] Absolutely.

[1147] Do you remember when you started to realize that the system was almost like unfixable?

[1148] Well, you acquire that in stages.

[1149] I mean, I pulled one worm out of a can, CIA bringing drugs into the country.

[1150] I said, this is wrong.

[1151] As soon as I get this to the right people's attention, they'll stop it immediately.

[1152] Wrong.

[1153] Of course, that was before Iran -Contra.

[1154] And so that worm turned out to be all of human industrial civil.

[1155] civilization.

[1156] It turned out to be the whole economic paradigm.

[1157] It turned out to be everything was crooked.

[1158] Everything was a lie.

[1159] Everything was manipulated.

[1160] I had a CIA friend recently who I was talking to a former CIA guy, and he had been in a meeting.

[1161] The first briefing of Bill Casey as DCI under Ronald Reagan, Director of Central Intelligence, Bill Casey wore the glasses.

[1162] Start ran around On contrary, he had been a stockbroker before he became CIA director.

[1163] There's a clue.

[1164] And Bill Casey took U .S. domestic cocaine consumption from 60 metric tons in 1979 to 600 metric tons in 1987.

[1165] And that money went to Wall Street.

[1166] So Casey had his first briefing as DCI, and he said, gentlemen, we will know that we are successful when everything that the American people believe is true.

[1167] is false.

[1168] Whoa.

[1169] Jesus Christ.

[1170] I've been around, you know.

[1171] I kept good notes.

[1172] That's why I'm alive.

[1173] I took really good notes.

[1174] And I left a good solid record, you know.

[1175] So you think you're alive because you've said too much already and there's nothing they can do about it?

[1176] And it's like it's just out there, no big deal.

[1177] Let them live?

[1178] I also think I'm alive because Spirit wants me alive.

[1179] Spirit?

[1180] I've had Spirit intervened so many times in my life.

[1181] And that's part of what the story is now that I have to tell.

[1182] in my next book because there is something powerful and I think wonderful afoot here.

[1183] And all I can do is tell the truth about it, but it would be dishonest of me as a journalist to leave that out of the work that I've already done.

[1184] When you exposed all this, when you exposed the CIA, when you stepped in front of the, what was the man's designation, the guy you?

[1185] John Deutsch.

[1186] He was DCI, director of Central Intelligence, appointed by Bill Clinton.

[1187] That was an incredibly courageous thing to do on camera, you know, to step in and not just say that you were a former Los Angeles police narcotics officers, is that what you were, that had caught the CIA doing this.

[1188] But you named operations.

[1189] You mean, you gave out information.

[1190] It wasn't just, it wasn't just a blank statement.

[1191] I had a lot of shit.

[1192] Yeah, that must be the worst fucking case scenario for the creepy.

[1193] industrialist cunts that run the world some dude who wants to be a superhero some dude who wants to save the world some dude wants to i'm just pissed off i hear you just fucking righteously pissed off you for a good reason and you don't you don't want to recognize this but that's a hero move okay when a guy does that and stands in front of a motherfucker like that and you say what you said it's uh brian do you have that clip pull that clip up because for the people who don't know who haven't heard this or seen this.

[1194] This is pretty intense stuff, man. Going to make me smoke.

[1195] Yeah, go ahead, smoke.

[1196] Well, it's a courageous move, man. I mean, it takes a lot.

[1197] I know you couldn't help it.

[1198] If you're courageous, you can't help it.

[1199] You just, it's.

[1200] What I wanted to get at was, what was your thought process, and what was it like when you finally got that information out when it came out of your mouth?

[1201] What was it, what did that feel like when that whole courtroom was cheering?

[1202] Oh, that was a, you knew that you opened.

[1203] That was a high school auditorium.

[1204] And there were 1 ,200 people in there.

[1205] And it was high.

[1206] It was unbelievably high.

[1207] It was like super peak awareness.

[1208] You know how it is.

[1209] You know how it is.

[1210] And it was like, whoa.

[1211] It was like one of my favorite maxims is don't shoot unless you get a headshot.

[1212] And I had John Deutsch in a headshot.

[1213] Right.

[1214] And I pulled the fucking trigger.

[1215] Wow.

[1216] And that cost him his appointment as Secretary of Defense.

[1217] Really?

[1218] Yeah.

[1219] Because you clowned him like that?

[1220] Oh.

[1221] He didn't have anything to say.

[1222] He was stammering like a son.

[1223] He was wringing his hands.

[1224] Yeah.

[1225] He looked like the typical evil white dude that's exploiting.

[1226] Yeah, that's it.

[1227] Back it up so people can see it.

[1228] This is November 15th, 1996.

[1229] I would tell you, Director Deutsch has a former Los Angeles police narcotics.