#1541 - Bridget Phetasy

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[3] Oh, hello, Bridget.

[4] Hello.

[5] We're going to save the world right now.

[6] I'm sorry for being late for the most California reason ever.

[7] I really thought I was meditating for 20 minutes and I was 45 minutes in.

[8] I was like, what happened?

[9] Last time we talked, you hadn't even started meditating yet.

[10] So tell me about this journey.

[11] Well, I would do it occasionally.

[12] Yeah, but you weren't really into it.

[13] I was getting in the tank, which is kind of like meditating.

[14] But, you know, the tank is its own thing.

[15] But, yeah, I've been doing, I had this guy James Nestor on.

[16] He's the author of Breathe.

[17] Breath.

[18] Breath.

[19] Breath.

[20] Breath.

[21] Breath.

[22] Breath.

[23] Breath.

[24] The book is breath.

[25] I always forget which one has the E at the end.

[26] But I really got into breathing exercises afterwards.

[27] And so, I mean, I'm calling it meditating, but I'm really doing both.

[28] I'm meditating and doing while I'm doing this.

[29] these breathing exercises, I'm just concentrating on breath.

[30] It is the best fucking stress reliever.

[31] It just, ooh, it all goes away.

[32] I taught yoga, and I always said if you could, if you had to choose like all the different parts of that practice, if I had to tell somebody just to do one, it would be breathing exercises are the best.

[33] Yeah, there's something about it, too, that like you don't realize how shallow your breath is most of the day until you sit down, you do these big, I do six in.

[34] six out so six seconds in big and then and I did it for 45 minutes today just in and now and by the end my my my skin is tingling I'm like I feel high yeah it's wild I know that's why I love that I was mentioning the last time I was on Sam Harris's meditations because they have you reflecting on your own consciousness it's like notice you know pay attention to where you're paying attention or what it's so trippy and I'll get in my head and next thing I know I'm like this is like taking acid I love Sam Harris I love him terrified of the COVID though terrified oh is he yeah yeah he's not doing anything live really oh he's not oh Sam he's the one who had me so scared I feel like I'm like I'm like come out and play Sam but he knew somebody though that got it early in Italy and got really sick yeah but then upon questioning um I was asking him a bunch of things like the guy was drinking like the guy was partying and then he was skiing and then he caught COVID it.

[35] So the people that I know that have got it and got it bad were all compromised.

[36] They were all beaten down, worn out, and then it got them.

[37] That's where it gets scared.

[38] Or you don't know.

[39] We had a friend whose boyfriend's brother died of it and he got it.

[40] But he was sick for two weeks and his wife was like, please go.

[41] And he didn't because he's a dude.

[42] And then he went and found out that he had like diabetes or something he didn't even know he had it and so he was compromised and it was really tragic and sad well a nurse was telling us she was how harsh is she yeah she's hardcore harsh she's she's great i love her but anyway when she's doing the test she's telling us about all these kids that vape that are dying oh yeah i've been hearing this fucking getting pneumonia dying from vaping here's a fun story i was talking talking to my physical therapist, and he is married to an Italian woman.

[43] So they were hearing all the stories from Italy, and then all the whole thing about like hydrochloric, hydrochloroquine came out.

[44] And the hydroxychloroquine, however the hell you say it.

[45] And he had been hearing from the people in Italy that this was kind of working with like some, and it was helping.

[46] So after Trump said it was helping, he was trying to get something.

[47] on the west side and he's like all these motherfuckers who are talking shit about it you couldn't get it anywhere on the west side of l .A. Every rich person in l .A. went out and bought it and then was like oh this we shouldn't be listening to this he's like but you couldn't get it anywhere well my doctor told me that people are not taking it because they hate Trump oh wow he when shop got it they asked shob what your political leanings are and he's like what and he's like well hydroxychloroquine has been proven to be very effective in the early stages of the virus he goes fucking give it to me What are you talking about?

[48] But imagine if you're like, fuck Trump, I'm going to die!

[49] Literally.

[50] I'm going to die on this hill.

[51] You're literally.

[52] People have lost their minds.

[53] Lost their minds.

[54] It's a, it's a, I saw a tweet yesterday and was like, I'm so tired.

[55] I'm so tired.

[56] I'm like, what are you?

[57] This whole idea of everybody being like, I'm so exhausted.

[58] I'm like, you're sitting on your fucking ass.

[59] You're watching Netflix.

[60] You're on your couch.

[61] You're waiting for postmates.

[62] Like, what are you fucking tired from?

[63] You're exhausted from.

[64] weeding?

[65] You know, like, it's so hard educating all these people, all these fascists online all day.

[66] What are you fucking exhausted from?

[67] I don't understand.

[68] Educating fascists.

[69] Everybody who disagrees with you is a fascist.

[70] Everyone.

[71] That's just how it is.

[72] Everyone.

[73] And it's, I was talking to Colin Quinn for my podcast, and we were talking about this.

[74] I was like, do you not get shit for like, he's like, I feel like we're kind of in the same place.

[75] And I was like, don't you get shit for being like both sides?

[76] And he was like, isn't that insane though?

[77] Like, the people, People who are, like, trying to see things reasonably are the ones who are, like, getting attacked.

[78] He's like, no, the middle used to be the people looking at the zealots being like, you're fucking crazy.

[79] And now they're looking at us and they're like, you guys need to be stopped.

[80] The middle needs to be stopped.

[81] All of this reason needs to be stopped.

[82] Well, because you make them confront their own biases.

[83] Yeah.

[84] That's what the problem is.

[85] When you're, if you're a reasonable person, especially if you're someone like you or I, who has a platform and you're reasonable.

[86] And there's a lot of people listening.

[87] And then people are like, wow, she's actually got some good points.

[88] No, she doesn't.

[89] She's a fascist.

[90] Look, I know Alyssa Milano.

[91] I don't have a platform like you guys.

[92] But.

[93] Well, it's a real shame that her platform was a third of mine.

[94] That's like a really, a really delusional.

[95] I want to, this is the two plus two equals five math.

[96] Yeah, that math is, that's like Hollywood math.

[97] When they tell you a movie didn't make any money.

[98] Yeah.

[99] It's really wild watching the hatred that people who are even so the other day I saw I'll say something like I've heard because I put out an article and it was like why I don't why I'm not voting for the president like fuck this I'm out and I got all these emails like 900 emails in two days from people who are conservative voting for Biden from people who are Democrats.

[100] of it.

[101] And I'm saying, I'm like, I'm hearing a lot of people saying that they've never voted for Trump or considered it and they're going to.

[102] And they're like, that's propaganda.

[103] I was like, so anything you don't want to hear is propaganda.

[104] Like, I'm just reporting what I'm hearing anecdotally from people.

[105] And you're telling me it's propaganda.

[106] It's really the opposite of propaganda.

[107] No. The problem is the media overwhelmingly is liberal.

[108] Right.

[109] Overwhelmingly.

[110] Like, there's Fox News and what's that?

[111] that A -O -N, what is the Q -N or whatever.

[112] Whatever it is.

[113] There's one crazy network that's like full, full right on the edge of the cliff with a fucking eagle tattoo in their back.

[114] And then you have everything else.

[115] I mean, everything else is liberal, whether they pretend to be or not.

[116] They lean liberal, whether it's NBC, CBS, MSNBC, of course, CNN is, CNN's atrocious.

[117] They're so bad.

[118] They used to be my favorite source of news.

[119] And now I see, when you see Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo talking about white people and how, like, white people have every advantage, like, why don't you have an education?

[120] Why don't you have a loan?

[121] Yeah.

[122] And Chris Cuomo's just standing there, like, letting Don Lemon say this.

[123] I'm like, what are you guys talking about?

[124] They're parodies.

[125] Have you ever been to Appalachia?

[126] No, they haven't.

[127] Do you know about really poor white people?

[128] No. They're there.

[129] There's poor white people all over the world.

[130] I tweeted something about it.

[131] They were like, Don Lemon's calling out celebrities and I am here for it.

[132] And I was like, Don Lemon is the arsonist standing in the house asking for everyone else to put out the fire?

[133] Like, this guy has been so divisive.

[134] He's so, what are you even talking about?

[135] All generalizations, all of them do nobody any good.

[136] No, but they're fun.

[137] But I just made one.

[138] I know, but they're so fun.

[139] They are very fun.

[140] I mean, we're comics.

[141] Yeah, we live in the world of generalizations.

[142] I said this waitressing, stereotypes don't exist and avoid.

[143] Like, as a waitress, it was 10 % waitressing, 90 % trying not to profile people.

[144] That was the hardest part of my job.

[145] Anti -biased training.

[146] It's just like, all right, these white ladies aren't going to be a pain in the ass.

[147] These white ladies, ah, fuck!

[148] They're pain in the ass.

[149] But the fact that you could say that on CNN, you could say something ridiculously biased and in a gross generalization on CNN, as long as you're saying it about the right people.

[150] Whether you're mocking all Trump supporters and being dumb.

[151] Do you remember when he did that?

[152] And then there was this whole thing where they, like, said, I was not mocking them.

[153] I heard a joke.

[154] Like the redneck voice.

[155] But he was like fake laughing.

[156] It was like it was so not funny.

[157] It was like what is this?

[158] It was like when you go to one of those alt rooms and someone's laughing at some shit that you know nobody thinks is really funny.

[159] Like what is happening here?

[160] What is this weird voodoo in the air that's forcing people to comply?

[161] I think one of the things that really was surprising to me that I'm hearing from a lot of people.

[162] And in my next column I kind of talk about this is like the mainstream media inadvertently redpilled.

[163] a huge sector of America during the pandemic.

[164] Oh, yeah.

[165] Because they were like, lock up, this is for the best, shut your business down.

[166] Don't bring your kids to school.

[167] Miss funerals.

[168] Miss weddings.

[169] Miss graduations.

[170] Miss sports.

[171] Miss comedy.

[172] Miss everything.

[173] Did you see that shit in L .A.?

[174] And then they were like, oh, but protests are okay.

[175] And everyone in a, you know, how many people protested?

[176] Like what percentage?

[177] Was it like 1 .01%.

[178] Enough to spread the virus.

[179] a good solid number how about de Blasio he said the only protests you can do are Black Lives Matter protests like hey motherfucker this is America you can't do that no you can't say de Blasio's a parody though how is he even real he can't be real he can't be he's a South Park mayor we are living in a South Park we are and so yeah I keep hearing this from people that that was you know I don't even think it was a protest because I think most people are actually on board especially around George Floyd everyone was pretty united like this is horrific yes we need to address this police brutality is a problem someone should have stepped up though some mayor should have stepped up and said i am with you but we are going to have a real problem with health if we just all gather in a street like this and it's not even in the street it's the making posters beforehand at your buddy's house you know and like getting together afterwards and having drinks everybody was still getting together in apartments and houses before and after these protests.

[180] And it's interesting, it's just that the thing I keep hearing is not even, it's not even the protest, it's the rioting.

[181] And when you're standing in front of a burning building and you're saying, these are mostly peaceful, people fucking have eyes.

[182] Right.

[183] Like you are lying to their face.

[184] And I just think they overplayed their hand.

[185] I think you're right.

[186] That CNN piece that said how the riots are being misconstrued by right -wing media, while they're mostly peaceful rides.

[187] And they made that with a photo of a building on fire.

[188] It is so crazy how gaslighty that is.

[189] That's the biggest gaslighting event of our time.

[190] It's actually just demanding that you swallow the lie.

[191] It's even worse than gaslighting.

[192] It's just demanding you comply with the lie that they're presenting.

[193] Now, we get this on the right too.

[194] Yes.

[195] Where it's like you'll directly counteract.

[196] predict something that is clearly on video that you said.

[197] Climate change.

[198] Climate change is the biggest one on the right where they just full on try to deny climate change and it's a part of the narrative of the ideology of the right.

[199] There's a lot of people that just deny the narrative of climate change.

[200] There are young Republicans who are changing this though and you should have some of them on because they're young...

[201] Give me some names.

[202] I will.

[203] There are some young kids who are really pushing back against.

[204] They don't like that.

[205] They believe that we should conserve our parks that we should conserve that it's important and they hate that it's become this kind of partisan thing and that it's now Republicans are anti -climate is this messaging and so there are some young people in that space they just don't have a big enough voice really yet but they're they're out there and they're pushing back against that and they have some really cool things that are going going on well that's good because there does need to be some pushback the problem with the narrative on the right is that they're so pro -business that they're willing to sacrifice some environmental standards.

[206] And people see the repercussions of that.

[207] Right.

[208] They're like, hey, listen, I understand that you want people to be able to work, and you want people to make a living, and you want to raise a standard and trickle down economics and all that shit.

[209] But you can't sacrifice the fucking environment.

[210] Right.

[211] Like that should be a no -brainer.

[212] First, do no harm, right?

[213] Like a doctor.

[214] First, do no harm.

[215] And you're doing harm.

[216] Like, you can't make money while you're polluting.

[217] Like, that's not good for anybody's future.

[218] Yeah.

[219] They're seeing this in areas where, you know, I think it was reading like the Louisiana belt.

[220] There's like tons of instances of more COVID mortality in the like chemical alley where all those fucking chemical plants are.

[221] And that's the kind of untold cost and cause and effect that we need to pay more attention to.

[222] And this is why I hate when these things like the climate shouldn't be, we should be able to have a conversation about this.

[223] And I think with the right wing, it's it's more that it's.

[224] I use as a cudgel to silence everybody and you're supposed to just get on board and there's so many things that are a lot of them will agree that we might be having some effect on it but what is the best way to to try and make those changes so that nuanced conversation is what needs to happen and everything is just partisan everything even the mask thing like all all of it and you want to be able to come from a place of facts it's the same with you know police brutality all of these things If we can start with what the actual facts are, that would be awesome and productive, but we don't start there.

[225] We start with like - Well, the proofs brutality thing, all you get is videos of horrific actions.

[226] You know, I saw a video, there's a really terrible video that's going around right now, that people are using as evidence that cops are racist because they didn't shoot this white guy who wound up shooting and killing a cop in Oklahoma.

[227] Did you see it?

[228] Oh, I haven't seen it.

[229] I've been blissfully offline.

[230] Every time I drink coffee with cream, I say, I'm not going to do that again because I'm not going to do that again because I'm not.

[231] I do it on the podcast and then I get flam and I have to That's all right It makes you human Joe It's not for people listening It's annoying bro But it's a bad video They pull this guy over They mace him They hit him with the pepper spray They tase him They do everything And he's just drugged up or a psycho Who knows And they get into some sort of a wrestling exchange And he gets the cop's gun It unloads into this guy's body And you hear the cop From the cop's body camera see him get shot and you see him scream this is the fucking thing about our dystopia that i hate i've seen someone die like every day for the past two weeks online you know but here's my point this people are looking at this thing oh the cops are racist because if that was a black guy they would have shot him right my position is okay this is these are two totally different cops and maybe they didn't chew him because they would have never shot anybody maybe these cops never would a shot a black guy or a white guy or Asian guy or anybody.

[232] But the point is, this is how dangerous it is to be a cop.

[233] Right.

[234] And this is why non -le, there's two cops on one guy, and they can't control this motherfucker.

[235] Yeah.

[236] And this is why non -lethal methods are, the cops are reluctant to use them sometimes.

[237] Yeah.

[238] And this is also, it just shows you how fucking hard it is to be a cop.

[239] You get this crazy dude, and you can't tase him, you can't pepper spray him.

[240] He still gets your gun and shoots and kills one of you.

[241] It's fucking nuts.

[242] It isn't it.

[243] I mean, it's, and I think you can't really jump to, oh, this is racism with no evidence of racism.

[244] Right.

[245] In that case, there is no racism, right?

[246] But what they're saying is, as far as we know.

[247] If this was a black guy, they would have shot them.

[248] I understand why they feel like that, because there are all these videos for black guys getting shot by cops.

[249] And it is horrible.

[250] But this situation is two totally different human beings.

[251] That's the problem.

[252] It's in a generalization.

[253] The problem is in stereotypes.

[254] The problem is in.

[255] The real problem is that these fucking cops exist at all that would shoot a guy that's black just because he's black.

[256] And those guys are real.

[257] Yeah, yeah.

[258] And there's so many cops out there that have PTSD.

[259] So many cops out there that they just don't know what is going on.

[260] They'll just shoot.

[261] There's a lot of that.

[262] Yeah.

[263] And I mean, I've had people writing me saying, like, I work with cops and they need better training.

[264] 100%.

[265] You know, cops themselves will say we need more training.

[266] and to act like some of them aren't racist as delusional as acting like all of them are.

[267] You know, I think you have to take it on a case -by -case basis.

[268] Honestly, the thing that Sam, did you listen to Sam Harris's hour -long thing?

[269] Everyone should listen to that.

[270] It's very good.

[271] You know, it's based very much in what we know as far as facts because he's like super reasonable.

[272] Yeah.

[273] And it was that, I sent it to like my dad who's super, you know, my left.

[274] my center left people in my life and he was like that was very good you know i don't think he hears that perspective right well sam sam's sam's a brave man sam harris is a brave man because he's already been attacked so many times for having these unconventional but very reasonable positions and yet he still puts them out there and he knows before he puts them out there that he's going to get some flack and get some but he's he deleted his twitter from his phone he doesn't have that can have a big impact i was talking to shop today he's deleted all social media from his phone he doesn't have any social media in his life anymore yeah i i really only use twitter and i only have it on my desktop so that if i'm i can only check it when i'm like in front of a computer i don't have it's even worse though because then you should be writing yeah i mean that might that might be a problem too i might just need to delete it completely i think i'm going to get a computer that doesn't connect to the internet i think uh like from the 1982 yeah they have those like snowden has one that has like a switch.

[275] Like you literally shut the Wi -Fi off.

[276] I might need that.

[277] So you can't get tempted.

[278] So like while you're working, the Wi -Fi is off.

[279] I mean, you could always go to the Wi -Fi and do the fucking thing.

[280] But it seems like a, like a switch.

[281] They have apps for that too.

[282] I think there's a fucking app.

[283] No. I want a button like a click.

[284] You could just unplug the Wi -Fi.

[285] No. No. It's just too tempting because this, I mean, you're a writer.

[286] You know as much as anybody.

[287] The temptation to procrastinate.

[288] Yeah.

[289] It's so.

[290] hard to avoid i mean i i i would i actually want to know how many words i've written on twitter and i've deleted i always kind of just delete i'll go have a mood where i'm like i'm deleting everything and then i'll just delete every tweet and so i was thinking like god it's it's really a shame how many books i've written on twitter it's like i really like a great american novel because do it is also giving you a very large following that's how i mean i knew you for the store but I really got into your shit because of Twitter.

[291] Yeah, no, I think you can tell pretty quickly about someone on Twitter.

[292] I think it's the best social media for seeing who someone is because everyone, no one's afraid to be kind of their piece of shit self on Twitter.

[293] You know, it's really the most honest, I think, of social media is because it's primarily a battle of the wits.

[294] And it's not...

[295] If you choose to engage.

[296] It's not so much, like, Instagram, which I...

[297] I can't stand.

[298] I don't know how people, I don't know how anyone does Instagram.

[299] Are you on it?

[300] I'm on it, but I never use it.

[301] I hate it.

[302] What do you hate about it?

[303] I just, every, it's so fake.

[304] It's so curated.

[305] I know, because all the people on Instagram showing me their lives, they call me with all their problems.

[306] I'm like, I know what's going on in your life, bitch.

[307] It's not looking like this.

[308] It's so true.

[309] And so I think it's just as like phony to me and I go in there and I'm like, I can't.

[310] And all women are just.

[311] How does anyone feel okay about themselves on there?

[312] I spent five minutes on there.

[313] I was like, I'm old, I'm ugly.

[314] I'm getting chest wrinkles.

[315] How do I get rid of chest wrinkles?

[316] I got to call Whitney.

[317] Call Whitney.

[318] Yeah, she'll get you on an AD drip.

[319] Yeah, this filter thing that everyone's using is so bananas.

[320] That one that you posted about your daughter's filter made you the pretty lady?

[321] How weird is that?

[322] You know, that was used in a class at Texas.

[323] tech that's terrifying yeah it is terrifying yeah but that's what girls are dealing with they look at themselves in the mirror and then they look at like like the the Courtney or Chloe which one none of those people are real but the which which which which was the one where she had a totally different head oh maybe the old I don't know any of them the old one yeah which one Chloe Chloe okay you know what she looks like yeah she looks one way and then the picture was like okay who's this yeah and it wasn't her I mean, they're doing stuff.

[324] They're moving their frame around and changing.

[325] Yeah, but they're also doing stuff in real life.

[326] But this one was so bad that she photoshopped one side of the chain on her neck off.

[327] So she's wearing a chain.

[328] She's got like a little chain.

[329] But she didn't realize it's a very thin chain that she had accidentally photoshopped one side of the chain was gone.

[330] Was not in the image.

[331] Like, look at it.

[332] Oh, wow.

[333] But look at the chain, like half on the right hand side.

[334] The chain is missing.

[335] Oh, yeah.

[336] Is that even her body?

[337] I mean, I guess, maybe.

[338] That is so great.

[339] But it's so damaging.

[340] It's so much pressure for young girls.

[341] And her as well.

[342] She's got to go outside.

[343] I'm not worried about her.

[344] But.

[345] I'm worried about her too.

[346] Okay.

[347] I'm worried about her.

[348] She's a human being.

[349] She is.

[350] That's how you get people off your case.

[351] Yeah.

[352] You attack other people.

[353] No, I'm not attacking.

[354] No, I'm attacking you.

[355] what you're doing is problematic it's terrible I can't she's a person she's a human being you're dehumanizing a Kardashian it's really bad I know it's not cool I don't feel bad for them they're rich wow but that's a problem when you say things like that because they suffer from mental illness as well as anybody we all suffer we do but it's easier when you're rich yeah can we just agree on that that's the most same I think that could be the same picture.

[356] Oh, well, how did they do the face smile?

[357] I don't know.

[358] That doesn't make sense.

[359] I mean, I don't mean the exact same photo.

[360] Sorry, I like the same photo shoot.

[361] Oh, wow.

[362] That's crazy.

[363] I don't know.

[364] They have a lot done to their bodies, too.

[365] I think someone could probably do that at a doctor's office could make her look like that.

[366] I mean, if I had enough money, maybe.

[367] You think so?

[368] Get crazy?

[369] We'll see when I have money.

[370] I'll be like, hey, I'll come in and like completely different.

[371] I'll be like, where's Bridgett?

[372] And who are you?

[373] I'm Bridget.

[374] I just got rich and now I have tons of work.

[375] Yeah.

[376] I've reconstructed my entire being.

[377] Remember when Renee Zellweger did some stuff?

[378] Yeah, it ruins their life.

[379] What do you, you can't, we know what you look like.

[380] What was the, who was the original one who did this?

[381] Jennifer Gray.

[382] She said it ruined her life.

[383] She was like known for her nose and then she got the nose job and that it kind of ruined her ability to get booked.

[384] Yeah.

[385] Oh, wow.

[386] I think she said that.

[387] I might be making that up.

[388] She kind of stopped working.

[389] Yeah.

[390] And she was hot.

[391] Yeah.

[392] I mean, it's a nose that's not perfect does not make you unsexy.

[393] It just doesn't.

[394] It comes from within.

[395] Let's not get crazy.

[396] She had a beautiful body.

[397] She had a great personality.

[398] She was pretty.

[399] She just had a non -perfect nose.

[400] It's funny.

[401] But guess what?

[402] So do I. A lot of people do.

[403] I was just joking about this the other day.

[404] Like someone was asking me how I stay sane and COVID and what I'm doing.

[405] I'm like, I focus on the only two things that matter in life, being hot and rich.

[406] Try to get hotter and richer.

[407] That's the run.

[408] I get mad on Twitter.

[409] I do push -ups.

[410] Well, it's just, you know, the temptation to alter your face like that is, I guess, if you see what some of the success stories, you know, like some of the other Kardashians that have done it, and it worked out awesome.

[411] Yeah, there's a lot of pressure.

[412] You know, there's definitely, I was not too into any of it.

[413] And then I started being on camera more with all these media hits.

[414] And I was like, oh, man, I had a, somebody did a screencap for one of the interviews I did.

[415] I was like, does the person doing this hate me?

[416] Why would they choose that?

[417] I looked like I was eating sheet cake for breakfast.

[418] Did they catch you like with eyes half closed with the mouth open?

[419] I was like, how many chins do I have?

[420] I did after this the last time I was on your show I just kept getting emails stop eating bread wow people were saying that to you it's so rude yeah calling me texting me and emailing me friends friends were saying those stop eating bread yeah this is the kind of pressure that Hollywood puts on you can't you just be funny yeah but can't someone just be funny and smart I mean fat shaming works it does work that's the problem it's worked on me it's worked on me When I went on that carnivore diet, one of the reasons I got up to like 205 pounds, which for me is kind of fat.

[421] I was getting a belly.

[422] I was getting these love handles, and we did this weigh -in thing for Sober October, and people like, look at your belly.

[423] I'm like, fuck, it is kind of sticking out.

[424] And I got there for that episode at the worst time, because I had eaten, and I eat like a wolf.

[425] I eat like there's no food coming forever.

[426] Like, I'll eat like two steaks, like a bowl of pasta.

[427] You must love Texas.

[428] I love it out here.

[429] Yeah.

[430] I could eat barbecue for breakfast.

[431] Which places have you gone to?

[432] What's the one where Matthew McConaughey, the, oh, it's the one where Matthew McConaughey said his favorite, famous line in days and confused.

[433] It's that, oh, it's good.

[434] They use pepper.

[435] Terry blacks?

[436] No, it's spit fire, spit.

[437] There's so many out here.

[438] You can't be bad and stay open.

[439] Yes.

[440] Oh.

[441] So good.

[442] It's the place.

[443] So good.

[444] For a place that has like 2 million people living in it, they have like 150 ,000 barbecue spots.

[445] There he is right there.

[446] Yeah.

[447] It's not painted like that anymore.

[448] All right, all right.

[449] Yeah, that place is amazing.

[450] I went to the other one that's really big, the really famous one that's kind of out.

[451] Franklin's?

[452] No, I haven't been there yet.

[453] I heard it's amazing.

[454] La Barbecue?

[455] No, it's a...

[456] It begins with an hour.

[457] Yeah, it's like an hour of us just naming barbecue places.

[458] Yeah.

[459] I found out through Adam Curry that actually was Germans came here and they had like a smoked meat tradition from Germany and that's, and they brought that and it became Texas barbecue.

[460] Have you been down to Green?

[461] Green, Green, Texas?

[462] It's not far, but there's like an old, it's a dance hall kind of common.

[463] We went the other night.

[464] It was awesome.

[465] There was just a guy.

[466] I have a video.

[467] You can't dance because everybody has the kind of social distance in there.

[468] and he was just sitting on stage playing the guitar and I don't know it was just a it's a tiny little town but I think it's um there is a German founded town yeah it's interesting Fredericksburg is very German and that's a place that's like got a lot of like craft places and wineries and yeah there's tons of history here I was I was in Georgetown and there was a protest in front of the city hall because of the there's a confederate statue it was a small protest how many people um it was mostly white people and do you think they got there because of a russian troll account i don't know it was the guy we i spoke to like one of the confederate like dudes after supporters well he's a descendant of these fighters and he was trying to explain that they just don't want them to desecrate the he's like we wouldn't go down to green and desecrate their soldiers and they were union soldiers And we just think you don't desecrate soldiers.

[469] That was, like, his whole argument for it.

[470] And he's, like, of the lineage.

[471] And so I was just chatting with him.

[472] And he was saying...

[473] I'm a descendant of Mao.

[474] And, you know, the way I feel is, like, leave Mao alone.

[475] You know?

[476] And he was like, you know, you just don't come and, like, desecrate the statues and whatnot.

[477] But he said they came every Tuesday, and they left it dark.

[478] And it seemed like they were reasonable conversation.

[479] It seemed pretty, you know, reasonable.

[480] It wasn't, like, screaming on one side and another.

[481] It was, like, pretty chill.

[482] It is a good question, right?

[483] Like, if there's something that's openly racist and represents one of the worst aspects of our country's history, like, how do you treat it?

[484] Do you just leave a statue up?

[485] Or should we have, like, maybe we should have, like, a graveyard for Confederate statues?

[486] And you could go.

[487] And this one was actually in Huntsville, Alabama.

[488] It was actually in front of the courthouse until last year.

[489] Isn't that crazy?

[490] And they could go on a tour.

[491] Instead of taking them down and smashing them, wouldn't it be interesting if there was a place you can go where you could see all of them?

[492] But then people would go that would be like, we need to put these back.

[493] Put them back where they belong.

[494] Well, I feel kind of like, yeah, we don't need them.

[495] You know, but the problem is there's a process that we usually go through to take them down.

[496] So I would generally err on the side of going through the process.

[497] but yeah but the process doesn't work sometimes yeah exactly and sometimes people just feel like they just want to pull them down this is another thing that's going on right now this is the perfect storm the convergence of all these different things that are happening at the same time and one of them being the COVID lockdown yeah social media the COVID lockdown the polarization of our country with Trump and then you know this this weird thing where everybody has to pretend that Biden isn't dying like this is all happening together at the same time like Everyone has to pretend he's going to do a great job.

[498] I'm going to vote for him.

[499] We just need to get Trump out of office.

[500] Like, oh my God.

[501] Can we freeze this?

[502] Can we freeze this and rethink this?

[503] Do you guys have anybody else on deck?

[504] No one.

[505] I mean, I guess Harris is on deck.

[506] She's wearing Timbalands.

[507] I guess she's one of us.

[508] I seriously love the tweet.

[509] Whoever it was, who was like, oh, found the undercover cop.

[510] But like, anyone who sees anyone wearing these in a club, this brand new is the undercover cop.

[511] But Charlemagne?

[512] Charlemagne on Instagram.

[513] was like, you know, because they were saying that she's bringing back Timbalands.

[514] And he was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[515] Like, he's a, he's in New York.

[516] Like, dudes in New York have been wearing Timberlands forever.

[517] They've been wearing them since the 80s or whenever they started wearing them.

[518] They never stop wearing them.

[519] Like, does she's bringing back Timbalands?

[520] That's like some guy saying, I'll bring it back Chucks.

[521] You know, I'm bringing back Converse All -Stars.

[522] Fuck you, you are.

[523] They never went away, man. You can't bring back something that never went away.

[524] And Timbalans, in New York, especially.

[525] never went away.

[526] Yeah, you're not allowed to go back to Biden.

[527] You're not allowed to say that.

[528] You're problematic.

[529] Yeah, I'm a problem.

[530] But I've been getting canceled for that for six months now.

[531] I said in that column, I said something like he may or may not be slipping into dementia.

[532] I mentioned about why I'm not voting.

[533] And then someone from the New York Times said, that is a widely debunked conspiracy theory that he's slipping into dementia.

[534] And I said, okay, I said may or may not.

[535] Can you post, like, cite your source for where this has been debunked so that my, like, people reading this thread can see it?

[536] And this New York Times researcher, writer, says, well, I've seen him speaking, and that's just what I gather from.

[537] Like, you seeing something isn't widely debunking a situation.

[538] That's not you, okay, so you see something and have a different opinion and other people have a different opinion.

[539] That's not widely, like, oh, well, I've seen it.

[540] And that's it.

[541] Could you imagine?

[542] Let's pretend that Kamala Harris was the Democratic nominee and Biden was a Republican.

[543] Could you imagine how savage they would be at attacking his mental incompetence?

[544] Yeah, no. No, that's actually a really interesting thought experiment.

[545] This is where this bizarre bias comes into play.

[546] And this is where everybody's getting gaslit because they're pretending that everything's okay because all they want to do is get Trump out of office.

[547] But in doing that, you're exposing this very bizarre tendency that people have to comply and to go along with these lines of thinking and behaving and talking.

[548] And I can't get into that, man, because that's cult shit.

[549] That's religious shit.

[550] I mean, that's where these things come from.

[551] They come from everybody not saying what they really feel because there's an agreement that's been made.

[552] And you're going to be on the right team, aren't you?

[553] You're going to do the right thing.

[554] You're going to do the right thing, aren't you?

[555] Or we'll burn your fucking house down.

[556] We have to stop these fascists Or we'll burn your house down Some guy offered me an interview with someone Who I probably could get an interview with him anyway And he said if you vote for Biden I will get you this guy as an interview Come on, we have to save the country What?

[557] Those real message I got Like hey bro Like Jamie's laughing That's so Yeah that's just I understand what you're going with It's like so crazy It's fucking insane It's it come on we have to Save the country.

[558] Are you sure?

[559] What about it do you want to save the country?

[560] What part is going to save?

[561] What is it?

[562] What's going to happen?

[563] When I was on, I did one of Brett's Unity campfires.

[564] Oh, did you?

[565] Yeah.

[566] And, you know, I was asking, I was like everyone is saying that the other side is the existential threat.

[567] And then Brett was kind of like, well, we need to come together because this, that is the existential threat.

[568] But everyone, but isn't that, I'm like, why is everyone on flight 93?

[569] You know, like...

[570] Everyone's scared.

[571] Of course, but it's also, I guess maybe I have optimistic faith in America.

[572] Like, I don't really see how Trump or Biden, like, how can, I don't know.

[573] I don't think.

[574] I hope that either one of them can't destroy America in four years, because that means America's already fucked.

[575] Yeah.

[576] Well, we're kind of fucked.

[577] I don't like saying, I know my 16 -year -old nephew and all his friends listen, and I don't want to give these children no hope for the future.

[578] They have hope for the future, but we're fucked.

[579] Do they?

[580] Yeah, we do, yeah.

[581] Yeah, listen, we're not in the fucking dark ages.

[582] No. The Mongols aren't coming over the hills with horses and flaming arrows and shit.

[583] This is what I always say.

[584] People are like, there's a civil war.

[585] I'm like, we're too, America's too fat for a civil war.

[586] Who's fighting?

[587] What does that even look like?

[588] There will be more armed conflict.

[589] Right.

[590] will be that's that's going to happen because when you have things like the Kenosha guy who shows up you know with an AR and guys try to take his gun yeah they're larping all this stuff is crazy yeah all of it's crazy like that more of that stuff is going to happen if you have more of these conflicts and they're kids well the guy in Seattle well the guy in Seattle is not a kid well was Seattle or Portland where shot that Portland right Portland it's all the same spotter yeah it was Portland yeah that guy was not a kid yeah just a fucking sociopath yeah who found a team that he could get with.

[591] Yeah.

[592] Did you see the interview with him with VICE?

[593] Before they killed him?

[594] Yeah, before the cops killed him.

[595] What an idiot.

[596] Did you ever see documentary now that show where they made fun of VICE?

[597] They parodied Vice.

[598] That interview with that guy reminded me exactly of the documentary now parody of vice.

[599] It was like, this can't be real.

[600] Well, they interviewed a guy after he killed a guy in the street with a gun and then was justifying it with like here's my face here I am I definitely did it like admitting that he did it and the way he did it was in this weird culty what like what he was saying I wasn't going to let him kill one of my friends of color that's what he said like but it was it was so clear that this is a person who's like saying the things that he thinks you're supposed to say to signal that you're on this team I think they believe it though oh yeah I mean look if you believe Trump is literally Hitler all of that behavior makes sense yeah because what lengths would you go to stop Hitler but it's the same thing in not calling out Joe Biden yeah right not saying that Joe Biden is having mental issues is the same thing because it's all you're what you're doing is you're you're saying things that don't necessarily have to make sense but they align you with a group right they align you with you're compliant you're fitting into the words that need to be that it's a cult and on both sides it's right wing and left wing it's trump devotion syndrome oh my god it's crazy trump derangement which is real and there's trump devotion syndrome which is the magicide and it is it's real oh i we made fun of him on dumpster fire just because he said something like completely retarded and deserves to be my all politicians deserve to be mocked what happened america we used to make fun of all of our politicians and so i think at that In that same episode, I had made fun of, like, Ben and the whole Cardi B thing, where he went viral.

[601] What ass pussy?

[602] Which was hilarious, by the way.

[603] If you listen to the whole - It's actually a gynecological condition.

[604] If you listen to the whole 10 minutes, it's a pretty good bit.

[605] Oh, yeah.

[606] It's pretty funny.

[607] And so he went...

[608] He's funny.

[609] Oh, yeah, he's really funny.

[610] He's a smart, funny dude.

[611] He's funny.

[612] So he retweeted it, and my cousin calls me, she's like, we are, our comments on YouTube are, like, insane people defending Trump.

[613] they couldn't get past two minutes of us make the next segment we make fun of Biden and then proceed to make fun of Nancy Pelosi and everything else but they could not get past two minutes of us making fun of dear leader yeah well there's there's a there's an issue I mean and it works on both ways there's Trump tweeted a thing recently with me and Matt Taibi talking about Biden where I said that Biden oh the flashlight that's a great joke thank you well I'm a comedian I was making a joke but on the same podcast we talked about Trump being a sociopath, we talked about all his lies.

[614] We just fucking lies.

[615] Like, it was not a Trump supporting podcast.

[616] But Trump's like, good enough.

[617] Snip, post it.

[618] Ra, MAGA.

[619] And everybody's like, yeah.

[620] Joe Rogan's MAGA.

[621] This is where we live in.

[622] We live in this world with no nuance.

[623] Yeah.

[624] It's very culty.

[625] But I wonder how many of those Trump supporters that you get on Twitter are bots, because a lot of them, a lot of them are.

[626] No, the devotion is real.

[627] The devotion's real.

[628] I mean, I know people in real life who are borderline QAnon, and they cried watching, you know, the R &C.

[629] For sure.

[630] They're the devotion.

[631] And I understand, look, I get it too because he rose out of the domination of the mainstream media, the culture, the domination of academia, Hollywood, all of it.

[632] And he was like a fuck you vote by many people.

[633] And they feel like he is defending.

[634] them and the thing I hear from them over and over again is he will stand up he'll stand against this tide of insanity coming from the left he'll stand up for us and that's why smart people are voting for him yeah that's a silent vote right now yeah that's a side that's gonna be just like 2016 this is propaganda job what what what I thought everybody felt the way I feel how this is this is another thing I keep hearing which is hilarious people who told me that he could never win in 2016 and that it was impossible are telling me again it's impossible he can't win i'm like you're telling me the thing that already happened that you thought was impossible is impossible what kind of logic is this it doesn't even they're so crazy and when you know the the thing about russian meddling when people talk about russian meddling i love this but here's the real thing about russian meddling the real thing is these trolls like they do affect people yeah they do it really does work Like, if you get enough of these troll accounts that they literally hire to post pro -Trump things and anti -Biden things and memes and all these things, like, it catches people up in the wave and they want to be a part of that group of people that's piling on against Biden and piling on for Trump.

[635] And a lot of it, like, there was one, there was a protest, I think it wasn't in Austin.

[636] I forget where it was, but it was a protest against white race.

[637] this is a protest and this dude traced the IP address back to Russia he's like this is crazy but they're organizing oh yeah protests I know I know Renee de Resta she did this whole study of it and it was it's really fascinating it is because she found hundreds of thousands of these posts oh yeah that were all from this internet research agency in Russia I love they're funny yeah no I love it when something's trending on Twitter and someone will be like it's 9 a .m. in Russia you know like you the bots have logged word something random you're like why is this trending and it's something anti -byton or sewing dissent and it's like always spelled wrong and yes it's just like oh rush is logged in for their work day we do it too this is what's fucked up about it it's like we're talking about meddling in our elections but like you know what that's like someone who's a fucking thief yeah saying someone's been stealing from me like what they're stealing some shit you stole yeah like what are you talking about yeah yeah yeah we do that with other countries.

[638] Yeah.

[639] If we're upset that China is fucking with us, you don't think we fuck with China?

[640] Come on.

[641] I know.

[642] It's like the American supremacy kind of mentality where it's like, how dare these countries who we've historically meddled in their elections meddle in our elections?

[643] Don't you understand?

[644] This is outrageous.

[645] We're the police of the world.

[646] Yeah.

[647] No, it's been, it's a wild, you know, I had a funny experience kind of observing how people, will engage with these bots and my nephew who's probably too young to be on Twitter has kind of recently got on he's like they call me Dee he's like look Dee I had a tweet that went pretty big and it was like him making some comment about they were coming after Lizzo and he made this kind of they were coming after Lizzo for some reason and he made some comment about it that was smart but it wasn't necessarily like you know A to B logic because he's like 12 and people adults were commenting and yelling at him and I'm like oh this is why I'm never going to argue with someone I don't know on Twitter again because they might be 12 it might be 12 year old very likely either 12 or what is this report Arizona teens paid to file social media posts for campaigns whoa yeah this is a Washington post report of to see yesterday um apparently they're being paid and then when asked this is the quote from the CEO of the company.

[648] Real kids operating their real social media profiles and promoting mainstream American values.

[649] Well, Jake Hoffman, president and CEO of Rally Ford, said in an emailed statement Wednesday that the posts were nothing more than in his quote, real kids operating real social media profiles and promoting mainstream American values.

[650] He said what these young Arizona activists are doing is honest and sincere political activism in the 21st century and in the age of COVID -19.

[651] whose firm was linked by the post to the Turning Point project.

[652] Oh, it's Turning Point?

[653] Yeah, it did not respond to questions.

[654] Neither Turning Point action nor the affiliated Turning Point USA responded for a request.

[655] Turning Point is a conservative youth outreach organization and's founder Charlie Kirk was a featured speaker at the Republican National Convention.

[656] Yeah.

[657] So it's like a sweatshop of like...

[658] So they're paying kids.

[659] Yeah, we're starting how much they're paying to see like if this is like job or...

[660] Like these little political activist kids.

[661] Imagine if there was a lot of money in it.

[662] If you got real writers, people like you start.

[663] So I wonder, like if it's a good.

[664] Oh, I could sew money to buy.

[665] That's what I'm saying.

[666] Everybody on both sides should be happy.

[667] I'm not on either one of these fucking sides.

[668] And you too.

[669] For real, right?

[670] They should be thanking us.

[671] We're not picking a fucking side.

[672] Because I will bury the other side.

[673] I know, right?

[674] I've thought of that before.

[675] I've thought of like starting an anonymous account and just saying all the things I really feel.

[676] I just going to war with people on Twitter I've never done it and I won't do it I really won't do it because I feel like the problem with that being deceptive like here's what I'm 100 % committed to if I say something it's because I mean it I have to do that that's got me here and we might be wrong a lot of the time I'm wrong all the time but I'll tell you I was wrong yeah but you can trust that the words that come out of my mouth are what I really think well I think and I could be wrong but I think we share a somewhat desire to explore honesty, you know, honestly what I'm feeling.

[677] And sometimes I have to push back against myself.

[678] Sometimes I'll say things so that I can get push back and see the blind spots.

[679] I'm not going to know what my own blind spots are unless I put my opinion out there and hear back from people.

[680] Not all of it is great.

[681] Some of it's really reasonable criticism that I can take in from people I respect, you know, not even people who, who maybe I am completely, if someone is not even my friend, but they critique something in a respectful way, I'll hear that.

[682] You know, I don't, I feel like it's necessary to just, I try really hard to be honest.

[683] I can't, it's not lucrative for me. To be honest?

[684] No. I think it is ultimately.

[685] I don't think that's true.

[686] No, I think it is ultimately.

[687] Yeah.

[688] Yeah.

[689] Ultimately, there is a future in that, ultimately.

[690] But we're, this is one of the reasons why I'm so steadfast today.

[691] It's because we're in the most polarized, the most ideologically based time ever in terms of like you have a side, you stick with it, you battle against the other side.

[692] And I see this from smart people and it drives me crazy.

[693] Yeah.

[694] It drives me crazy because I'm like, I know you're smart because I know you're educated.

[695] I know you know a lot of facts.

[696] But you are.

[697] so fucking stupid about human nature to behave like this because you're denying the very thing that literally has made us racist, the very thing that's made us go to war.

[698] Tribalism.

[699] This is what it is.

[700] All of it stems from people who look like me or people who think like me or people from the patch of dirt that I'm from.

[701] Those are on my team.

[702] We got to stick together and we got to all agree.

[703] But that's nonsense.

[704] And we know it's nonsense.

[705] We know that in 20, that we don't have to think like that.

[706] It's not smart.

[707] Yeah.

[708] I mean, I think that our founders really understood human nature.

[709] And they had this insight, which I still don't know how they managed to have it.

[710] It's a miracle.

[711] I mean, Jonah Goldberg wrote this amazing book, Suicide of the West.

[712] And he talks about all of this, essentially how the Enlightenment, and we just stumbled on this miracle.

[713] And in the end, he has the appendix.

[714] I'm like, if anyone in America should read anything, it should just.

[715] just be the appendix of his book, which is all the stats of how much humanity has been lifted out of the dirt.

[716] You know, and we've lifted up even in developing world.

[717] Like everybody's doing, yeah, there's problems, obviously.

[718] But everybody overall, it's never been more convenient and easier for humans to just exist.

[719] And I sometimes feel like, is this just humans because they're not fighting and trying to, like, survive their self -distance?

[720] Destructing and having to create that reality for themselves, is life just too easy?

[721] There's a lot of that.

[722] There's a lot of the existential risk, the real risk of humanity up until now has been war, murder, death, death, famine.

[723] It's so hard to live.

[724] So hard.

[725] And that was what people concentrated on.

[726] But now because of, I mean, who was discussing this with me the other day?

[727] Was it Douglas Murray?

[728] maybe or was it i don't forget who it was so many guess anyway so many guests yeah but this is this is part of the problem with social media is like the problems that you have today are big to you because you do not have big problems right when you have big problems if you have someone in your family that you love that's that that's dying or sick someone calling you a fuckhead on twitter doesn't mean anything to you yeah but when you don't have that and then you're like hey fuck you you know like then you that that Twitter comment is the thing that gets you yeah and that gets you out of bed and you check the comments and see what else did they say oh and I said this let's see I got them now yeah you know and this is your conflict this is you with a catapult it's shadow boxing though it's crazy because it's like I know women on the east side in New York who are online all day battling and they're like I'm so tired this is so exhausting I'm in so much distress I mean it's mental illness it's in there's And I'm like, you're doing this to yourself.

[729] You are all doing this to yourself.

[730] It's not a lot of the conflict.

[731] And I was saying this on Twitter the other day.

[732] I'm like, I'll be worried about America when no one can tweet.

[733] Like you're all tweeting and you're all in line bitching about something or other.

[734] When you have, like you said, when you have somebody, for instance, a cancer diagnosis.

[735] Someone in my life recently thought they were diagnosed with cancer, they weren't.

[736] For that 24 hours, you realize that is your life now.

[737] Well, that's how I felt at the beginning of COVID.

[738] The beginning of the lockdown, I really thought it was going to be like September 11th.

[739] Like when September 11th came around, everybody joined up.

[740] We all got together because we all realized like, hey, all this petty bullshit is not important.

[741] What's really important is we got a fucking band together because we're going to run out of toilet paper and food because there's a disease coming that's going to kill everybody.

[742] And then when that didn't happen, it's like it ramped up the other way.

[743] Everybody just got crazier.

[744] It just goes to show you how hilarious it is that people were talking about toilet.

[745] paper you're like maybe Tom Green had a great point though Tom Green's point was when you go to the supermarket toilet paper is a light item but it takes up a lot of space and you only have so much shelf space and he goes it was just people seeing other people stockpiling yeah when they take it and then it's missing dude I don't have one now like that's not the first thing I would think of that I I've I've also worked in farms and like shit in the woods so oh yeah so you can you know that's not my first thought in the apocalypse It's like that's what I need to stockpile.

[746] I'm like water.

[747] Yeah, exactly.

[748] It shows you how disconnected we are with real threat.

[749] They're like, oh, what am I going to do?

[750] I'm not going to be able to wipe my ass from all this food that I'm binge eating while I'm locked down and Netflix thing.

[751] Like, that's not a real crisis, guys.

[752] And drinking constantly.

[753] Everybody's drinking went up like some insane.

[754] It was like 20 % more.

[755] While the bars were closed, alcohol consumption rose like 20%.

[756] I am on a, I had to, it was hard for me because I'm sober and I'm on, threads with my very Irish Catholic family and for the first couple weeks it was just pictures of their their booze stockpiles which I 100 % would have done if I was back in my drinking days before even water it would have been it would have been booze yeah I mean my family I always tell this joker like it's something that's just funny in our family it was like police it was uh police vickers liquors and then fire on the emergency context That's real.

[757] My grandmother had that in our growing up.

[758] And we're like, let's be real.

[759] Fires don't really start until after we drank.

[760] Oh, my God, it's so funny.

[761] Yeah.

[762] It was, I think it's just interesting to see when I remember when it first started.

[763] I was kind of eerie like no one was out in L .A. It was rainy in those first days.

[764] I went down to the beach.

[765] There was no one on the beach.

[766] There was no one even driving.

[767] And I walked by this guy who was kicked back in a sofa.

[768] He had his television on, he had a beer, he was on his phone, just with a nice little throw.

[769] And I was like, this is apocalypse light, you know?

[770] It's not really, like I've never seen a more perfect picture of what the modern apocalypse looks like.

[771] It's not fighting for, I just remember, remember Katrina when it got really bad down there and people were fighting for food and it got, it got savage really, really quickly in those, I think it was in like the Superdome.

[772] Yeah.

[773] Have you ever read the book Blindness?

[774] No. I couldn't read fiction for two years after I read that book.

[775] And it's all about a pandemic of blindness hits people and they all get put in quarantine.

[776] They get quarantine together, the people who are getting this blindness.

[777] And then the wife of the guy who gets, he is like stricken with blindness, she fakes it so she can be with her husband.

[778] and she's witnessed to all of the shit that goes down once all these people are out of society and in this quarantine and it's like rapes and murders and stealing and just how quickly it kind of the veneer of society deteriorates.

[779] Who wrote it?

[780] Oh, God, he won a polter for it.

[781] I'm going to blank on it.

[782] Thank you.

[783] He's a great writer.

[784] It's amazing.

[785] Yeah.

[786] So I think that we're, you know, it's pretty, under the circumstances the other thing that I've been kind of surprised about is like you were saying there's going to be more armed conflict I was like I'm pretty amazed at how restrained people have been very amazing very amazing like 300 million guns maybe probably 400 million now in America more than people more guns and people yeah and just a few shootings they were pretty restrained yeah pretty restrained especially especially considering the videos of cop shooting black people especially when you think about how crazy it could have gotten.

[787] There's been some horrific incidents.

[788] Yeah.

[789] This is a really bad one.

[790] I think it was in Baltimore.

[791] This white guy walking on the street.

[792] And for no reason.

[793] This black kid runs up behind him and hits him in the head with a brick and the guy faceplants.

[794] And the people that are filming it are in a car and they're laughing while the brick hits the guy and the guy faceplants on the concrete.

[795] So much violence.

[796] But for no reason, right?

[797] Yeah.

[798] It's crazy.

[799] But so little of that comparatively.

[800] Yeah.

[801] what it could be yeah you know there's a lot of people that thought a real race war was going to happen in this country but i think most people the vast majority of people are not racist the vast majority the vast majority of cops i think are not racist i think the vast majority people are not violent or evil the vast majority that's why you can just go places yeah that's why it's not a fucking shooting gallery everywhere you go yeah the vast majority people are not violent or evil evil you know it's just we have human beings living together in a very imperfect scenario yeah you don't we we were talking about this the other day um you don't hear about the planes that land you just you there are so many people doing so many good things all the time you don't hear about and so you're only hearing even in in police shootings it's like we focus and a lot of this I blame on the media is like it would be like only focusing on planes that crash and But it's not even the media anymore.

[802] A lot of these things are just online videos that go viral.

[803] Yeah, yeah.

[804] But I think that so much of the division and that like picking narratives, they're driving narratives.

[805] And people are obviously kind of partaking in this.

[806] But I still think that it's we when I first, like you said about the early days of the pandemic, I thought the same thing because you would go out.

[807] and there was you'd have this kind of like you'd look you'd have your mask on or whatever you walk and people were out walking because they couldn't go to the gym or anything and there would be that you'd kind of look at each other with that solidarity there's that feeling of like yeah we're in this yeah and it was only two weeks later before people are crossing the street angrily I got mask shamed by a guy we were walking and I had my bandana just around my neck and he was very far away and he was like no mask no mask no mask screaming at us and I'm bright red you're a bad person you don't have a mask on but he's I'm like dude you're gonna have a heart attack before COVID ever kills you just yelling at people who who don't have masks and and he's not gonna I mean I would have to spit in his mouth for him to get COVID from me he's not gonna get it from me from a block and a half away just yelling and this is where I think people are driving themselves insane well the unhinged I've never had a better time this is this is their time because they have so much company you know if you're an unhinged person like you're on team unhinged like oh look at all the people on my side weren't you the one who had that tweet that was like we have a mental health problem that's a we have a gun something about guns and mental health yeah we have a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem and a tyranny problem disguised as a security problem yeah that's a great tweet I think about that all the time because man is that played out yeah because now we're just seeing the mental health and the tyranny yeah well we we legitimately have a gigantic mental health problem in this country Look, I'm a person who I've done a lot of things.

[808] I've, I have a family, I'm happy, I have good friends, I'm successful, and I have mental health problems.

[809] Yeah.

[810] We all have mental health problems.

[811] Yeah.

[812] And my mental health problems are very minor.

[813] I just want to be real clear.

[814] They're very minor.

[815] But I get weirded out sometimes.

[816] We all do.

[817] We all get in funk sometimes.

[818] We all have issues.

[819] We all have issues.

[820] Yeah.

[821] But when something challenges us and we don't have character and we don't have a history of of overcoming issues and we don't have tools in terms of like whether it's exercise or meditation or yoga or whatever you do to alleviate tension and then you have the fucking gasoline which is social media yeah and you're throwing gasoline on your fire instead of figuring out a way to put out the coals you're just going to have madness and there's so many people that are unhinged right now and they've been alone and isolated and it it just shows how much you need that social interaction because people I feel like are losing their manners.

[822] You know, I've heard from many people, and my sister texted me, she said, I just saw a real -life Facebook fight at dinner.

[823] And it was like, and someone else texted me, and he said, I just saw a real -life Twitter interaction in the grocery store.

[824] So this behavior that generally is relegated to the way we are when we're anonymous or not anonymous online with each other that you would never necessarily be if you were face -to -face, because everybody's been online, it's like they're starting to behave that way in real life that's not good well that's what everybody's afraid of was afraid of when it comes to like video games yeah people are afraid that like violent video games are forcing people or we're going to cause people to be violent in real life i don't think that's real i think they've done studies that that's not real they've never proven that i think there's actually violence that's gone down yes i think it's the opposite um but i think that there's something about the way human beings are just interacting with other human beings those video games you're not shooting a real person you're shooting of an avatar you know you're shooting a thing and it's fun the thing about interaction with people is you're really hurting someone's feelings yeah and then you get used to doing that and then you don't you're not around people a lot yeah most of your interactions are just this way and then when you are around people you behave in the same way that you would if people were in front of you yeah i mean i think about how much like how many mental health tools I need.

[825] I don't, I'm like you, I have mental health problems.

[826] I've had anxiety in my past.

[827] I had debilitating hypochondria that I overcame.

[828] How'd you overcome it?

[829] Man, I should really write a book about it.

[830] I should write, kill your hypochondria before it kills you.

[831] Because it was debilitating.

[832] Solid title.

[833] It was debilitating.

[834] And it was, I. Most people don't get past that.

[835] My therapist was like, you, how did you do this?

[836] but it was basically, I took, okay, so it was kind of a three -prong attack because I'm like, I can't live like this.

[837] Because hypochondriette truly makes you feel insane.

[838] And you know, you can objectively know, I'm crazy, but your mind gets stuck.

[839] It's like OCD.

[840] And so it's kind of based in OCD because you get stuck in a loop.

[841] Like I would just get stuck in a loop.

[842] For instance, like, there's something wrong with my lip.

[843] There's something wrong with my lip.

[844] There's something wrong with my lip.

[845] something right i don't know i just get stuck in that loop or i have thorough cancer i have thorough cancer i have you know i would just be like stuck in this crazy loop it's insane did it come slowly or did it it got worse did you always have it no um i think i come from like a long line of hypochondriacs though now because my mom used to have you know those do you remember those books before the internet where it was like if you have this it was like a choose your own adventure but it was like if you have this symptom before the internet there are these books where you could be like if you have this symptom go to page 233 and if you have this and I remember my mom would use those quite a lot so I think she has some of it my dad is just a big worry ward so I have that kind of neurotic energy I believe but I think too I was smoking a lot of weed and I mostly got it when I was hung over like that's when it would be the worst as I would be hung over so anyway I had because you were realizing what you did to your body.

[846] I think I just had, I had to attack it from, from three different places.

[847] So the first is the actual, I was like, all right, I'm going to rewire my fucking brain.

[848] And I set myself out to do this.

[849] And I put it rubber band on and I did that stupid thing, but it totally worked where if I was like, there's something wrong with my lip and I'd snap my rubber band and I'd be like, I'm healthy.

[850] I would just replace it with I am healthy.

[851] And if I...

[852] How'd you come up with that idea?

[853] I read somewhere that it's a good way to help with, like, repetitive thoughts or to just help yourself.

[854] I mean, I was training my dog at the same time, too, and I was like, ah, this is kind of like dog training.

[855] I just have to interrupt that, you know, like, that firing.

[856] And there's that whole idea of what fires together, wire.

[857] It's not even an idea.

[858] It's like what fires together, wires together, wires together.

[859] So every time, the other thing I had to do was explain that.

[860] What fires together, wires together.

[861] So it's...

[862] this concept of whatever you're kind of thinking and acting on, it just creates like a pathway, a neural pathway in your brain that gets stronger and stronger if it's like the, like for instance, so this is why part two was replacing the thought, but I also couldn't act on it.

[863] So I couldn't go look in the mirror.

[864] I couldn't go Google anything if I thought I had cancer.

[865] I had to cut myself off from acting on, because a lot of people who have hypercom.

[866] they'll obsessively google they'll go get tested for everything they'll spend thousands of dollars getting tests luckily i was not on had didn't have insurance i was too poor to really like lean fully into my hypochondria that way um and i just had to stop myself from the action because that you know anytime you have a thought and you act on it it reinforces that connection that like mind -body connection and it would reinforce that pattern of worrying and then i had to start observing I kept this is very I guess too it's very like CBT so cognitive behavioral therapy I didn't know this is kind of what I was doing but I would keep now they have very it's like you keep a record a thought what they call a thought log and I would just document when I had the thought what brought it up like what triggered that thought because there's always kind of a trigger and then what action I took and what action I could take to replace it and so I sometimes it's just not acting on it at all.

[867] And then I started working with therapists on all the things that were underpinning those, the triggering thoughts.

[868] So one was like I couldn't hold joy.

[869] I just, anytime I felt like I was excited about doing anything, I was going to Hawaii, that was when I was like perseverating on my lips.

[870] And I couldn't, it was like I could not enjoy anything without my brain telling me that everything was going to shit and I was going to die.

[871] So I had to look at that.

[872] Where does that come from?

[873] feelings of worthlessness, upbringing, whatever.

[874] Then the other one was shame around sexuality.

[875] There was just a lot of shame around, like, I was pretty promiscuous when I was drinking a lot, and I wasn't always proud of the men I woke up with, and it happens to the party girls, and, you know, I was an international slut, and there were some, like, Gil, I'm Catholic, too, raised Catholic.

[876] So that shit got squirted it in before I had a chance in hell.

[877] And so there's lots of shame around that that I had to really look at and deal with.

[878] And yeah, so I just started looking at all this stuff.

[879] And I like, it took me, it was work.

[880] It was freaking work.

[881] And now I'm like completely free of it.

[882] That's amazing.

[883] Yeah.

[884] That's amazing.

[885] You did that.

[886] Congratulations.

[887] I mean, I definitely, I feel like I can live and breathe and I can just be present.

[888] Meditation was big.

[889] And then I think a lot of people forget.

[890] that you know drinking and substances are not a coping mechanism they can be if you if you are not using them addictively but for many people like drinking is they'll be like i have a coping tool it's drinking i'm like that's not it exacerbates it whether you like it or not so i had to quit that and i was joking just like how many fucking things i need to do to start my days i'm like i wake up i meditate i have to like you know i have to work out or i'm a crazy person i've got a sweat they're just I just know what I have to do yeah and people it's important I think instead of and people ask me all the time how I deal with the online hate and all I'm like I just go work out that's my answer to everything yeah that's an answer go work out because it requires effort and it requires like as much as it's difficult when you're sitting down in front of a computer to overcome procrastination and write multiply that times 10 and it's getting to the gym because the physical discomfort of true you're like oh you like your mind well your brain will mind fuck you yeah that's why i have these this this i have like mugs and t -shirts that say conquer your inner bitch i love that that's what it is there's there's a thing i it's it's in me i was talking to david guggins who's one of the most savage people that's on the planet today and he and i had a long hilarious conversation on the phone yesterday about it and i said one of the things that i really appreciated about you is you talk about your struggles.

[891] Like there's a video that I put up on my Instagram the other day.

[892] I just wrote Stay Hard and it's his video and it's him talking about this struggle that he has David Gagins, one of the hardest men alive.

[893] He has his struggle sometimes when he gets up he just starts feeling sorry for himself.

[894] He starts feeling like, it's just like, fuck I'm tired.

[895] I don't want to do this.

[896] Yeah.

[897] And then he actually says, he said those thoughts into a tape recorder or a phone or whatever the fuck it is and then listen to it, play back.

[898] And he's like, I sounded like a straight bitch.

[899] Yeah.

[900] That's hilarious.

[901] But he realized it.

[902] And then he got fired up and went out and did it.

[903] But what I said to him is what's so important about him and why he's so important to people is because he shows you the weakness.

[904] He shows you that he has these thoughts himself, but he just always wins.

[905] He overcomes those.

[906] But he knows that those demons are there.

[907] They're there for everybody.

[908] But he's just got a long history of overcoming those demons.

[909] And so he knows that he just has to go to work.

[910] It's the warrior ethos.

[911] You know, it's something I've really always tried to develop in myself and I respect in other people.

[912] And I think that you don't have to be a like literal warrior to develop that ethos.

[913] And it's something that used to be so respected and Sparta and there were just so many, there's, that was something that was revered.

[914] And I feel like in our society now, because victimhood has become currency, like no warrior in the fucking world would ever want to be considered a victim, they will do.

[915] die on their own sword.

[916] Yeah.

[917] And it's important that I think people like David and you and just to really embrace that spirit and try and promote it because ultimately it feels better to work against your worst instincts.

[918] It does.

[919] It just, it might be harder, but it feels, at the end, it feels so good.

[920] You don't have to do a lot.

[921] This is the other thing that I love about.

[922] There's this great book, Tiny Habits.

[923] and it's all about bundling habits and how you don't have to start every day and say, I'm going to start working out every day an hour.

[924] No, you're probably going to fail.

[925] Just start doing 10 minutes and then you might do more and then bundle it with one minute of meditation and just start little increments and just be consistent, you know.

[926] That's great advice.

[927] Because it really is about building healthy habits, not so much.

[928] It's just my friend said to me, it's more more habits less goals because we're so goal oriented and goals are good to work towards but you're not going to get there without healthy consistent habits and people are just discipline is fucking hard it is fucking hard it's hard to be disciplined it is hard and the victim mentality one of the reasons why I reject it so heavily is because it's completely contrary to comedy yeah like if everyone is a victim and you can't like have any victims ever well then you can't have any no because you're you're making fun of things that are preposterous and as soon as you can't make fun of things that are preposterous like like I was talking we were talking before about this uh vice thing that was written about a transphobic episodes of this podcast and one of the things that they wrote was that I incorrectly uh described how Caitlin Jenner uh transition or why Caitlin Jenner transition I'm like oh you mean Chris Jenner isn't really a demon that hovers over his bed and whispers in his ear and converted him to a woman like what the fuck are you talking about this this kind of nonsense is like and by and i know kately jenner got mad at me i was only just recounting an old joke from 2016 yeah i got no hate for that person no no i'm sorry if i said the wrong name i don't have any no hate yeah we we are making big deals out of things that aren't big deals and we're making we're turning jokes into literal statements that are that is hate speech yeah that shit is nonsense and you know it's nonsense yeah and you know it's nonsense we had to i mean we were having there was we were driving yesterday and there's a planned parenthood above a mexican place that we drove by and i was like okay imagine you're like going in and they're like you're killing babies and it's like i just wanted to get a margarita You know, it's just, and we were making all these jokes, and I was like, God, it feels so good to just feel like joke freely.

[929] content of the joke, die on the right to be hyperbolic.

[930] Yes.

[931] Because that's what they're coming after.

[932] They'll come after the...

[933] I'm like, don't fight about the content of the joke.

[934] Just fight for your right to be a hyperbolic comedian.

[935] Because that's...

[936] If we have that, we have nothing.

[937] We have to be ridiculous.

[938] We're fucking clowns.

[939] Well, look at Joey Diaz.

[940] Yeah.

[941] He's the best example.

[942] And in my opinion, the funniest guy I've ever seen.

[943] Everything is...

[944] Everything he says is so over the top.

[945] But that's part of why you laugh.

[946] You know he's not being honest.

[947] He's making you laugh.

[948] He's doing comedy.

[949] And he's doing it by grossly, ridiculously exaggerating something so crazy.

[950] Yeah, that's why I get mad when comedians are like, you who are shitting on other comedians, when I see other comedians going after other comedians for their jokes, I'm like, what the fuck is happening here?

[951] Well, they're always bad.

[952] Here's the thing.

[953] This is the fact.

[954] The comedians that go after comedians.

[955] for jokes they're always mediocre yeah there's this is and i don't i'm not trying to be mean no and i'm not always as a generalization it's the tool of the comic it's not always some of them are good comics to do it erroneously but the thing that they're doing they're doing because there's a feeling inside you that always feels bad that you don't reach the high marks there's like a thing where you don't quite and then you see someone step out of line right see someone take it maybe misstep maybe maybe they fuck up maybe they make a joke and it doesn't work and you want to attack them you want to attack but patrice o 'neill said it best and he said when someone tells a joke that kills or someone says a joke that offends people and doesn't work it all comes in the same place yeah and that place is you're trying to be funny yeah that's what you're trying to do you're not trying to be mean you know and i remember particularly the early days of my my stand -up comedy when i was terrible um i would just say anything to get a laugh anything and i I didn't have to believe it at all.

[956] I literally didn't have to mean it.

[957] If I knew it would work and I treated it, I treated comedy jokes like hammers.

[958] Yeah.

[959] It was like a hammer.

[960] I'm just looking for a nail.

[961] Like, is that work?

[962] No, does that work?

[963] I was lost in the woods.

[964] I had a blindfold and I was feeling for trees.

[965] Yeah, everybody, though.

[966] That's what I did.

[967] Yeah.

[968] And then after a while, I realized, okay, well, some of these things, I have to think they're funny.

[969] And then then it works better.

[970] And then I just had to figure out who I was.

[971] Like, I got into comedy with very little real social life.

[972] When I was 21, when I got into comedy, I had only been fighting.

[973] Like, I didn't have a normal childhood.

[974] Like, my child, from 15 to 21, was all kicking people in the face and getting kicked.

[975] Like, that was my whole life.

[976] So my whole sense of, like, what the world was was all fucked up.

[977] So I had to develop opinions on things.

[978] I had zero opinions on politics or weddings or anything.

[979] So all I talked about for, like, the first year.

[980] year of comedy was sex yeah that was my whole act but that's all I had that that's pretty common especially when you're 21 you know what what other life experience do you have and by the way thank god that's what you did because do you ever wonder where you would be if you were that age now oh my god you'd be out in the streets I would have a real problem you'd be at an antifa I don't know what I would do but but the point is like when I would tell a joke outside of sex, I really didn't know what was funny.

[981] Yeah.

[982] I knew it was like certain things were funny with sex.

[983] And so I had those jokes.

[984] But if I would tell a joke about something else, like, I was just swinging at the wind.

[985] I love the process of finding what's funny, though.

[986] Even though it's uncomfortable and awkward, I was doing, I was trying to get this bit where I was talking about how my dad sat me down to have an awkward conversation about my freezing my eggs.

[987] And I was like too old.

[988] I was like 37.

[989] I was like, dad, isn't this like asking me if I want to freeze the chicken like seven days after it's been in the fridge?

[990] You know, you're probably not going to unfreeze that chicken.

[991] It just seems like too, it's like past its prime already.

[992] I feel like maybe you should have had this conversation with me when I was like 30, not 37.

[993] It just seems so.

[994] And he's like, I didn't realize you had a whole chicken metaphor worked out.

[995] He was like all.

[996] And so I was trying to do this and all I kept getting was like, oh, from the audience.

[997] and I hate the pity.

[998] I'm like, I'm up here talking about it's fine.

[999] You don't have to feel bad for me, but that's my job as a comedian to be like, okay, why is everyone feeling sorry for me?

[1000] There's a lot of gals out there freezing eggs and I just want to put my hands on their shoulder and go keep those fucking eggs frozen.

[1001] Just keep the eggs frozen.

[1002] Do you know that 99 % of eggs don't get used?

[1003] I'm sure.

[1004] It's something crazy.

[1005] I could be wrong, but it's a crazy high percentage of eggs that don't get used.

[1006] Listen, it's, you don't.

[1007] don't have to have kids it's expensive yeah kids are expensive but freezing your eggs is fucking expensive and you have to storm you got to pay a freaking storage fee listen having kids is awesome don't get me wrong yeah but you don't have to have kids like this this idea that the path that everybody takes is the path you have to have there's there's something about it that used to infuriate me when I when I was younger where people would tell people with children would tell you have to have a child yeah and I feels like a prisoner telling me that I need to commit a crime You know, like, come with us.

[1008] You don't have to.

[1009] No, you don't have to.

[1010] Look, I don't have a, like, a steadfast rule for anything involving human beings and their path in life as long as they're doing no harm.

[1011] Yeah.

[1012] I think as soon as someone does, I always feel like they're trying to justify their own path.

[1013] Like, how many people who do certain things want you to do those things as well?

[1014] Yeah.

[1015] I appreciate the honest parents.

[1016] Like, my sister's like, don't have kids.

[1017] And she's kidding.

[1018] But she, and it's, it's another one of those things that, in my instance, it never, it was less about having a kid and more about having a family.

[1019] And I had never, at that point, met a man that I wanted to really have a family with.

[1020] And that was important to me. I know it's crazy.

[1021] Wanting a man in my life and all.

[1022] Can I get canceled for that one?

[1023] And so it just, it hadn't, you know, I'm very, and then I was.

[1024] I hit 40, and I was like, oh, shit.

[1025] Am I going to regret this?

[1026] Is it something that, you know, I'm more worried about looking back and being like, I should have, but I just...

[1027] You could always adopt.

[1028] I can always adopt.

[1029] There's so many kids who need good parents, and I feel so...

[1030] I am truly like that woo kind of hippie chick who's like, I'm right where I should be.

[1031] Yeah.

[1032] I have to believe that I have to believe...

[1033] But you are.

[1034] You are right where you should be.

[1035] So many...

[1036] Considering especially your past, you are right where you should be.

[1037] Yeah, and considering, I mean, even just this whole trip to Texas has been so informative because I went to go, I went through the process of looking at houses just to see, found out all this stuff, but really I was like, oh, I can buy a house.

[1038] That was an amazing moment for me because I went bankrupt when I was 26 and I have worked really hard to, I had to like repair my credit.

[1039] I had to get a little baby $300 a month card that I paid off.

[1040] and full and you know I I had to focus on that shit and I feel it was a nice moment to be like okay all right I can see the path forward and and so many times in my life when I thought I wanted something like I really wanted to write for Maxim when I was 23 I recently found the proposal it's hilarious but I was like yeah I was I was such a I was such a boys like a boys girl you know I just I moved a lot and the guys were always nice to me and they always let me in their clubs So I was at poker nights and bachelor at parties and all that shit where women generally weren't allowed.

[1041] And I had access to just the male brain.

[1042] And they felt comfortable being their disgusting selves around me and I didn't judge them for it.

[1043] And so I was like, I need to write for maximum.

[1044] I get these dudes.

[1045] I want to write sex advice.

[1046] And I never really got that column.

[1047] I never had, I didn't know anybody to even.

[1048] I was living in a small town.

[1049] I was talking to Colin about this today I was like I was so delusional I was waiting tables and I was like the town drunk telling people when I was serving them French fries like remember my name Did you really?

[1050] Yeah like I'm delusional I'm gonna be fucking huge I'm gonna be huge one day They're like just can you get me cold A set of fries young lady What are you talking about?

[1051] I'm pretty sure I saw you peeing in the alley The other night That's why you gotta forgive people When they're young Yeah When you see someone acting really ridiculous when they're young don't don't write them off forever yeah i mean it's been a lot i mean the story i think about the long fucking road that has been even and so i didn't get that but then i ended up writing for playboy which was even better it was on the internet you know when i wanted to write for maxim we only had magazines and it was much bigger than i could have imagined but so in the same space and so you know that there might be another better thing yeah like rejection.

[1052] I love that phrase.

[1053] Rejection is God's protection.

[1054] I love that.

[1055] And my therapist always says God's protection.

[1056] Yeah, it's like you being rejected by a man or a woman or somebody or a life opportunity.

[1057] It's just because there's something better or you're a jerk.

[1058] Well, I've always felt like it just means whatever it is, whether you're rejected for a job.

[1059] or reject it, either you're not good enough or the system's fucked.

[1060] Oh, see, I mean, maybe.

[1061] One of those things is, well, there's a lot of people that get jobs that do not deserve them.

[1062] And people that do deserve those jobs don't get them.

[1063] Yeah, that's true.

[1064] Because of cronyism, nepotism, there's a lot of fuckery that goes on with it.

[1065] But that's okay, too.

[1066] But a lot of times it's a wake -up call.

[1067] There's a lot of people, like, when you were telling people, remember my name, there's a lot of people that really believe there's something that they're not.

[1068] And the only way to find out that you are not that person is to be defeated.

[1069] And that's one of the reasons why I think martial arts is so important for men.

[1070] Because men have it in their head, this ridiculous idea that there's something that they're not.

[1071] And the best way to find out that you are something that you're not is to get squashed.

[1072] Oh, yeah.

[1073] So you get squashed a lot.

[1074] I've eaten a lot of humble pie.

[1075] Well, anyone who gets good at Jiu -Jitsu has been fucking manhandled for a long time.

[1076] And to reach a black belt in Jiu -Jitsu, or even a purple belt, which is what Andrew Yang thinks every police officer should be, and I think so too.

[1077] Yeah, that's true.

[1078] You get your fucking ass handed to you for years.

[1079] Yeah.

[1080] I mean, I can think, I can close my eyes.

[1081] Just think all the time, like, strangled, tapped, or tapped, ah, tap, tap on my leg, tap.

[1082] It's just like, you just get, you lose all the time.

[1083] Most men don't have enough opportunities in life to lose.

[1084] Losing is very important.

[1085] It is important.

[1086] Failing and losing are so huge.

[1087] They're so important.

[1088] And we live in a culture that doesn't really, um you know it's obviously very success driven and everybody and you see the you know the 10 years to become an overnight success or whatever i'm like that i ate so much i was telling this story today with colin just about how i was so delusional and i had i went bankrupt i started fedocity dot com when i was for because it was greeting cards and t -shirts and i had this great idea and then i had no business acumen and i drove around to my America, highest gas prices ever in America, I think, to this day for six months.

[1089] And I was, like, selling T -shirts on the beach, telling people like, you know, remember this.

[1090] They're like, it's spring break.

[1091] I'm not going to remember anything, idiot.

[1092] Yeah, I was just delusional.

[1093] And I would just, I came out here and then my cousin, who's my partner on, a lot of stuff.

[1094] I'm like, you know what?

[1095] We can turn this company around.

[1096] I was like on the verge of bankruptcy.

[1097] I'm like, we're going to go to Costco and we're going to get some whiteboards.

[1098] and we got $600 worth of the stuff and two cards I was maxed out on my credit cards I go to pay with my credit card and they're like we don't take credit cards because Costco they only take like that one kind American Express or I think it's changed now visa or something so they only took one and they wouldn't take it and then we just had to like abandon these two cards like why did I think that like dry erase boards was the thing that I needed in that moment spending $600 and I do tell young people who come to me for advice.

[1099] I'm like, you know, there is, you have to kind of be a little delusional to, in a creative path in particular, because the difference between delusions and dreams is hard work.

[1100] Like, you're delusional if you're sitting in your mom's basement, you're like, I'm, I'm going to do this and you're never doing anything.

[1101] But you do need a little bit of overachieving delusion to kind of push yourself you could call it that I would just call ambition yeah ambition and a trust in the process yeah yeah terrible if you're a comedian you're terrible right and but you think I know a lot of terrible comedians who have been hugely successful so as terrible comedians I might attribute that few those are joke thieves but a lot of them they start out bad but they have these moments where they get laughs if you could figure out what happened there and then and then take those embers and blow on them and use it and and figure out how to recreate that and then figure out how to get better at it it can be done but you also have to be ruthlessly introspective and that is a thing that most people are not willing to do most people want to protect themselves from their failures and they want to pretend that it was other people's fault or people are plotting against them or you know how come it always happens to them or he gets all the breaks and all these that all that shit does you zero good and just pushes people away from you it creates the exact opposite the exact opposite amount of the exact opposite kind of energy that you need to be successful yeah what you need to be successful is pain yeah you need to all my best like growth moments in comedy came after I bombed like embarrassing horrific bombings those are when I got my shit together and I got better and I go my god I can't do that again and then I got better there's been a series there's like been there's big ones in my life where I was like it was the worst feelings I've ever had yeah it's not I've had losses and fights that losses feel bad I get PTSD just talking about bombings from some of the bombing's worse than getting your ass kicked is what I'm trying to say bombing feels worse than getting your ass kicked it really does I had one at the comedy store that I still remember like it was yesterday.

[1102] It was, it was a monumental, a guy that I was kind of having an affair with, actually.

[1103] He was there with his friends, which was even worse.

[1104] I would have rather it had been a thousand strangers, and they kept pushing me, and it was, and they kept pushing me and pushing me because I'm nobody, and I just kept drinking and drinking and drinking.

[1105] And I got on stage, and I was like, I'm cold and afraid.

[1106] And that was it.

[1107] I blanked.

[1108] I couldn't remember anything.

[1109] It was horrific.

[1110] You know, you feel me. It was horrific.

[1111] 100%.

[1112] I can't watch open mic nights.

[1113] I can't.

[1114] One of the reasons why I take great comedians on the row with me, I always take funny people because there's nothing weirder to me than watching someone who's not funny and then thinking I can go be funny.

[1115] I don't, I feel like nothing's funny.

[1116] Like, if I see someone eat shit, I'm like, oh my God, comedy doesn't work.

[1117] Like, there's no comedy.

[1118] It's not real.

[1119] This can't be done.

[1120] It can't be done.

[1121] This person's bombing.

[1122] Nothing is funny.

[1123] Nothing they're saying makes me think, oh, yeah, I know it's funny.

[1124] And then if you go on after someone who bombs, who's terrible, you have to kind of reintroduce the idea of things being funny.

[1125] Yeah.

[1126] Like, it's a lot more work.

[1127] Yeah.

[1128] This actually happened to me in a situation that I had no business being in, which is often the case with stand -up.

[1129] And it was, they had made some deal where Bill Burr was performing who's a god and then there was just a bunch of nobody's who they had arranged that would like kind of just open for him basically so that he could like do his hour that he was testing because he doesn't go fuck they're not here to see any of us they're just here to see him and the girl I was the girl in between a girl who bombed and bill and I was like this is so much pressure thank God I didn't in that instance I didn't but it was you were like the audience is traumatized you know like they need to recover they need to you need to bring them back and let them know everything's okay yeah there's also the thing where you know that someone who's going on after you is just way better than you and you just start judging your act and judging all of your material oh god second guessing your tag lines and yeah that was like who was it jeff garland i was an opening for him and i was just so paranoid I got in my head the first show was a disaster and he's like no one gives the fuck Bridget they're here to see me you know he's like you can go he's like I demand you go out there and bomb and he's like you need to try all new stuff he was great he pushed me he's like I don't care go out and be like there I'm gonna come out because you know him he just has like the awkward silences that he loves he's so I love and he's like no most people in this moment would be uncomfortable it's just silent and they'll like sit down just take a load off and yeah I've learned a lot I mean I I definitely learn more from bombing than I have from yeah that's where you learn well you definitely learn from killing too I mean well that just feels like feels awesome but it also does teach you what's good in your act and the pacing and correct pacing and like how you're you're presenting bits and I never leave a bit alone I like until I'm ready to film it I'm always fucking moving things around and trying to find a better way to and you know you find out through whether or not it works what's your process for writing well there's a bunch of different ways sometimes i just have an idea and i just write it down on my phone road like sometimes i'll be talking to my wife and i'm like i got an idea and she she understands so i just run away i run away like literally run and i'll just write it down because it's like they're slippery fish yeah they're like i'll remember that you'll never remember it i've i know now that i don't remember it so if a good one pops in my head i will literally run away for in a restaurant i'll get up and run yeah and like what the fuck is he doing do you audio like sometimes do you sometimes sometimes i'm like if i'm like if i'm high especially and i think i'm not going to remember this i have to say it because i don't i won't remember it while i'm writing it because i'm really high you're like this is genius in the middle of writing i'm like what was i saying um so i have to say it because it's quick right you know so i have like When I swipe down on my iPhone, there's the audio recorder is one of the things that's built in.

[1130] Okay, yeah.

[1131] So I just swipe down, hit that and start yapping.

[1132] That helps.

[1133] But the other thing is like sitting, and sometimes there are just ideas that I have that I bounce around in my head while I'm driving around.

[1134] I'm trying to figure out how to work it out.

[1135] And then I bring them on stage raw.

[1136] Sometimes I haven't even written it down.

[1137] And I just fuck around with it on stage just to see if I can find a place for it.

[1138] But then the big thing to me is also sitting in front of a computer.

[1139] and I know a lot of comics don't like that but some of my best bits have come from sitting down and going over the bit and going over material and also writing essays like I write essays and so I'll write like a couple thousand words but I'll extract a sentence and that one sentence will be a bit but if I don't sit and write that I don't get that sentence right right and a lot of comics saying I write on stage I'm like yeah I do too I do too but I also make myself sit down like I need a new hour every two years really a new hour every year because the last year is really just hammering the samurai sword down ping ping it's you know honing the blade yeah but the bit the metal has to be in position after a year yeah yeah so I have to get something and you got like you can come up with it on your own you could just just just talk and go on stage and socializing with friends a lot of times things come out socializing with friends good ideas will pop in my head like you're laughing having fun you say something crazy yeah like oh my god you should use that and you write that down but there's no substitute for actually writing yeah for sitting down and writing yeah just sitting your ass in that chair and doing the work it's it's like it doesn't hurt yeah this is what i tell young comics like well i really feel comfortable writing like that because it always comes out forced yeah get better at it yeah like that's the argument that i've talked to comics that that just do crowd work yeah whenever i do bits it seems fake i'm like well that's because they're not good.

[1140] You get better at doing that.

[1141] Do you like crowd work?

[1142] I do it if some shit is going on.

[1143] Yeah, yeah.

[1144] But, you know, I just, you know, I'll do it occasionally just to have fun.

[1145] Yeah.

[1146] But I feel like there's, it's a weird sort of fake immediacy.

[1147] Like there's a fake energy like, oh my God, this is coming out of nowhere.

[1148] Yeah.

[1149] You know, like this is so much funny than it really is.

[1150] Because that's, people are laughing really loud and because they know, that you're coming up with it in the moment.

[1151] Right.

[1152] It's fun sometimes, but there's no substitute for real bits.

[1153] Yeah.

[1154] Like a real killer bit.

[1155] That's what I like.

[1156] When I would listen to Richard Pryor or Sam Kinnison, or I wanted those fucking perfectly honed chunks.

[1157] Yeah.

[1158] You know?

[1159] That's like Chappelle.

[1160] I mean, God, I watch his stuff.

[1161] I'm like, he is like a master class.

[1162] Just the way that he constantly misdirects and it's like, the joke's always on you.

[1163] Yeah.

[1164] Yeah.

[1165] Yeah, yeah.

[1166] Just so, I mean, that opening to the most recent one, the sticks and stones.

[1167] Yeah.

[1168] Just, it's just how he manages to bring it back to the Anthony Bourdain thing.

[1169] And then he's like, and this guy, I mean, he's just, it's, he's just a master.

[1170] You see somebody who's so gifted at that.

[1171] We're so dedicated.

[1172] Did you ever, I feel that this way about Colin Quinn, actually, that New York special that he did?

[1173] Did you ever see that?

[1174] No, I haven't seen it.

[1175] Holy, it is.

[1176] Colin's a genius.

[1177] I he's a genius I watched it and rewatched it again immediately because I was like what the how the fuck did he just do that he tells the whole history of New York and it's all in jokes I think Seinfeld directed it it's on Netflix it is genius I've never seen anything like it really it was like the history of New York he's so unappreciated so unappreciated yeah yeah and comics appreciate it I remember one time I did tough crowd and Colin was working the uh he was warming up the audience and he just did his stand -up so there's an audience there to see tough crowd and Colin is just doing stand -up for the audience and it is so good I remember thinking afterwards like wow his stand -up was so much better than the show itself yeah I was like it's kind of interesting yeah yeah yeah like people don't know how good he is he's so good his red state blue state that he did is genius it's like it aired on tiana and now it's on netflix but it was a roast of all 50 states.

[1178] It's freaking hilarious.

[1179] He's amazing.

[1180] Yeah, he's really under, I feel like, underappreciated.

[1181] What, what have you learned in your time off?

[1182] Like, what have you learned about your comedy?

[1183] Have you, what are your?

[1184] I can live without it and learn that.

[1185] Oh.

[1186] I can survive.

[1187] Well, yeah.

[1188] Without it.

[1189] I mean, you're not twitchy.

[1190] Oh, well, I got twitchy the one time I did it.

[1191] I did it in Houston.

[1192] I did a weekend at the improv, but then I got twitchy about giving people the COVID.

[1193] I got worried.

[1194] I'm like, what if I got it?

[1195] And then I gave it to somebody.

[1196] Yeah, that would worry me. So I started getting weirded out about that.

[1197] I got weirded out about, like, you know, someone who's compromised, getting it because of my carelessness.

[1198] And then I thought about it.

[1199] I was like, also then there's people that are in the audience.

[1200] Like, are you responsible?

[1201] If people come to see you and then someone in the audience gets COVID, like, are you responsible for that?

[1202] Not directly.

[1203] Not directly, but it's like secondhand.

[1204] But do you feel guilt -free?

[1205] Yeah, no. You don't feel guilt -free.

[1206] Like, if you find out that a fan who loved you but was overweight and they came to see you and they got COVID and died after your show, like, fuck.

[1207] Yeah, you'd feel horrible.

[1208] You'd feel horrible.

[1209] If you were a decent person.

[1210] Okay, this is not.

[1211] I don't know if there's a way to do this where people don't get sick.

[1212] What about the drive -thrues?

[1213] Aren't people doing that?

[1214] That seems whack.

[1215] I know Bert loves him.

[1216] Bert loves him, but Bert's crazy.

[1217] Yeah.

[1218] And he's always drunk.

[1219] So it's like it's hard to, it's hard to.

[1220] He's having a blast.

[1221] He loves it.

[1222] Yeah.

[1223] But Bert just wanted to perform.

[1224] you know and he figured out a way to do it I mean I'm pretty sure that the drive -in movie comedy thing was his idea oh wow I think he's the one that started doing it and he's the one for sure who's doing it on the biggest scale he told me he did a show I go how many people were there he goes 700 cars oh wow 700 cars that's crazy that's a lot of people yeah you got to figure that's at least 1 ,400 people yeah maybe more yeah and you know he said at the end of it they were flashing their lights it was like a fucking UFO he said it was awesome that's kind of cool listen he just wanted to be out there yeah you know he just wanted to be out there doing stand -up and it's going well he's selling out all over the place i feel bad for the comedians who were like just getting that momentum you know the ones that were grinding and grinding and grinding because i've been thinking a lot about this just with covid how much momentum was just stopped all over the world just the momentum for musicians you know i heard this story about a musician people starting business just stopped.

[1225] Yeah, people going to high college sports, but these comedians who aren't making money.

[1226] Or musicians who aren't making money.

[1227] Because musicians only make money touring.

[1228] Yeah, but we're just about to start making money.

[1229] Maybe not even like just beginning.

[1230] Like my friend Allie, Ally McCoskey.

[1231] She was opening for me, just really starting to get paid work, and then was actually starting the headline.

[1232] And then it all went away.

[1233] Yeah.

[1234] I mean, that's what.

[1235] Now she's living with her mom.

[1236] Oh, wow.

[1237] Yeah.

[1238] There's no money.

[1239] money like how do you make money yeah the only way a comic survives today is if they started a podcast before all this shit happened yeah yeah and i have been telling comics this from the fucking jump you were the one who told me to start mine yes and you listened i did you told me i remember where i was it was at the comedy store and you were like start a podcast and i was like well jo rogan tells you to start a podcast i guess you should look yeah i mean it's it's very successful now the the thing is it's it's a vehicle for you to be independent and to not just make money but also to get your voice out there yeah you can get your opinions out there in a way that you don't have anybody leaning over your shoulder like i had um there was a time where i was doing the rounds with like some radio people where there was like some offers for me to do a radio thing and i was like oh but there's going to be like someone telling me what i can and can't say right there's going to be someone bringing me guests like this guest is going to come in and that guest's going to come in And I'm like, I could probably make do with that.

[1240] But it would also be those, there's uncomfortable moments.

[1241] I remember when I did radio where I knew the DJ did not want me there.

[1242] Right.

[1243] If they weren't a fan of my comedy or they, DJs are weird people.

[1244] And they're like comics in a lot of ways.

[1245] But a lot of them are like comics that never did comedy.

[1246] Right, right.

[1247] And they have this like insecurity about the comics that are out there battling.

[1248] Yeah.

[1249] You know, I remember one guy was mad.

[1250] He goes, he said, It looked like he had about two hours sleep.

[1251] He smelled like liquor.

[1252] I'm like, yeah.

[1253] Yeah, I'm a comic.

[1254] Yeah, I did have two hours sleep.

[1255] I did smell like liquor.

[1256] We were up having a good time.

[1257] I had a show last night, motherfucker.

[1258] Yeah.

[1259] You know, we were up until 4 o 'clock in the morning and just laughing.

[1260] And then I came here at 6.

[1261] Yeah, that's what happened.

[1262] Fuck do you expect.

[1263] This is what I do, man. I'm a comedian.

[1264] But there's something about the person who just, the comic, like, a lot of DJs.

[1265] I think secretly wanted to be comics.

[1266] Yeah.

[1267] Because they'll try to be funny.

[1268] They'll try to be witty morning guy.

[1269] Yeah, yeah.

[1270] But they never put their balls in a wheelbarrow and made it on to that stage.

[1271] Yeah.

[1272] They never did.

[1273] So you were like no radio, sticking with the podcast?

[1274] Well, I just didn't, I didn't think anybody was going to hire me. Oh, okay.

[1275] But the problem was I was worried about having a place where I could just say what I wanted to say.

[1276] I always knew someone was going to tell me not to do something.

[1277] Yeah, yeah.

[1278] Like, ugh, it's so annoying.

[1279] When you say something funny, and someone's like, you can't say that.

[1280] It's like, oh, you fuck.

[1281] It was an episode of Fear Factor once where this lady could not reach her hand into this barrel.

[1282] There's this barrel of worms to pull out a piece of paper.

[1283] And the piece of paper, I think, would say, you have to eat one worm or no worms.

[1284] And I'm pretty sure she was vegan, too.

[1285] So she couldn't eat a worm because she'd have to kill a thing.

[1286] It was hilarious.

[1287] So I go, just put your hand in there and grab the paper.

[1288] She's like, I can't.

[1289] I go, but you definitely can.

[1290] Trust me, you can do it.

[1291] You put your hand in there, you grab the paper, and you do it.

[1292] I go, it's not that hard.

[1293] I'm telling you it's all in your head.

[1294] I'm going to help you through it.

[1295] And she's like, I just can't, I can't.

[1296] I go, you're saying you can't, but that's not true.

[1297] It's difficult, but you can.

[1298] I go, watch.

[1299] I'm going to do it.

[1300] I go, want to watch?

[1301] And I put my hand in there, and I pull out a piece of paper.

[1302] I see that?

[1303] I go, that's why only men get to be president.

[1304] And she was so mad at me. I go, I'm joking.

[1305] I go, but you can do it.

[1306] But NBC wouldn't have it.

[1307] They wouldn't do it.

[1308] They cut it out.

[1309] And I remember this conversation I had with the producers.

[1310] I was like, why can't you say that?

[1311] I go, you understand.

[1312] I'm joking, right?

[1313] Well, a lot of people are going to get mad.

[1314] I go, yeah, a lot of people get mad at jokes.

[1315] Yeah.

[1316] But it's pretty clear that I'm joking.

[1317] And you know I'm a comedian.

[1318] And everybody else does too.

[1319] So what are we doing?

[1320] Like, what are we doing?

[1321] Yeah.

[1322] I remember that feeling.

[1323] I'm like, it's going to be that.

[1324] It's going to be that all day.

[1325] It's going to be that all the time.

[1326] It's going to be that.

[1327] But podcasts are the only place where a comic can say whatever the fuck they want.

[1328] Yeah.

[1329] But what I've been telling comics from the jump is this is the only place where you can do this.

[1330] Yeah.

[1331] Where you don't have any other people doing.

[1332] And thankfully, a lot of people have listened, particularly like Tom Seguer and Christina, like Tom and I had a conversation.

[1333] They're awesome.

[1334] They're moving out here.

[1335] Oh, I love her.

[1336] She's, I just love her.

[1337] I hooked them up with my real estate agent.

[1338] So we were in the middle of this lockdown and me and Tom are on the phone and goes, dude.

[1339] thank God you told me to do this podcast yeah he goes what the fuck he goes I was making so much money touring and then I was like basing my lifestyle off of that no one ever thought the plug would be pulled out like this no one ever saw this coming but not just that they've established who they are through that podcast in a way like you realize how silly he is yeah how silly they are yeah they're awesome they're my faith well they're not my favorite com yeah they are okay they're my favorite comedy couple yeah but there's a bunch of other the ones like Bonnie McFarland and Rich Voss and Natasha Lagerow and Moshe Kasha.

[1340] There's a few that work.

[1341] And that's the answer to these people that say like, oh, comedians, she's never date other comedians.

[1342] Yeah, my whole theory.

[1343] One headshot per couple.

[1344] Yeah.

[1345] It's a good theory.

[1346] It's a good theory most of the time.

[1347] But like all theories.

[1348] There's always a, yeah.

[1349] There's some of the work, obviously.

[1350] I think they don't, the thing I love about Tom and they just don't take themselves very seriously at all.

[1351] Or their opinions.

[1352] Yeah.

[1353] And then they're not the people, even though they're super successful, they're not the people that tell you what you should and shouldn't do.

[1354] Yeah, no. That shit's gross.

[1355] I don't want to do that.

[1356] It's like you were saying earlier about the just letting people kind of find their path because I, what worked for me isn't going to work for thee.

[1357] And this is what we're hearing from, you know, these kind of extremes is what's right for me is what's right for everybody.

[1358] What's right for me is what you have to do.

[1359] Yeah.

[1360] And if I think something, you must comply.

[1361] Yeah.

[1362] If I believe something, you can't say a thing.

[1363] you can't think a thing you must do this you got to adhere to this or that you know there's just so much madness in the world when it comes to this shit it's weird it's interesting like i understand you know conier clearly i i pray for him conier you understand him i understand right when he started wearing the maga hat i was like i get it i get it because there was so much pressure especially like in l .a and when you're living in that liberal bubble state.

[1364] There's so much ideological pressure.

[1365] I could feel it.

[1366] I could feel myself not wanting to say things.

[1367] And that's why I just was like, fuck it.

[1368] I'm saying whatever I want on Twitter.

[1369] I'll pay the consequences, whatever they might be.

[1370] And I'm not going to censor myself.

[1371] And I have the whole theory of on Twitter.

[1372] If you get like a lot of followers for one tweet, you have to immediately tweet something that's the opposite so that you can weed out all the like zealots and ideologues because that's the only way to purify your following from, like, the radicals.

[1373] Yeah.

[1374] And does it work?

[1375] It does work.

[1376] I feel like, because I can see it in my mentions, for the most part, my, like, the people who follow me are, like, in on the joke.

[1377] And there are some really smart, funny people, and I love it when they contribute to the joke.

[1378] Like, I'll read my mentions because they're usually freaking hilarious.

[1379] And then there's always, like, one idiot who's like, oh, this is the most obvious grift I've ever seen.

[1380] I'm like, do you just?

[1381] Yeah.

[1382] Yeah.

[1383] That grift word, there's too many dorks that are using that word.

[1384] I know grifter.

[1385] Because I like using the word.

[1386] There are a lot of people that are fucking grifters, but there's too many people using that word.

[1387] It's a good word.

[1388] It's a fun word.

[1389] It's a really fun word.

[1390] It's a really fun word.

[1391] It's a fun word to say.

[1392] It just has a good...

[1393] It's accurate.

[1394] Yeah.

[1395] I'll tell you where to find grifters.

[1396] Here's a fun thing to do that I should start just a segment on my podcast.

[1397] I love reading Yelp reviews of psychics.

[1398] You want to talk about fucking grifters?

[1399] I could read these for hours.

[1400] You want comedy, Joe?

[1401] Go read psychic reviews on Yelp.

[1402] Yeah, they are nothing but grift.

[1403] They're like, I came in and he didn't remember my name.

[1404] He should have known my name when I walked in.

[1405] The scenes that are set, like I showed up and this woman was babysitting her grandchild, and then she needed me to give them a ride.

[1406] I'm like, these people who are psychics are insane.

[1407] It's amazing.

[1408] All of your audience should take a moment, go read some psychic Yelp reviews when you're feeling down.

[1409] You will immediately feel better about life.

[1410] And there's all these people that want you to know that they know a psychic that's real.

[1411] Like, dude, I'm telling you, she knows.

[1412] She just knows things.

[1413] You've got to talk to her.

[1414] I had a girl on my podcast who was addicted to psychics.

[1415] And I was like, come on.

[1416] How bad could it have been?

[1417] And she was like, I spent $60 ,000 on psychics last year.

[1418] I'm like, okay, yeah.

[1419] That's an addiction.

[1420] Wow.

[1421] How did she have that much money?

[1422] I mean, I think she had good, she had decent money, obviously.

[1423] She was making decent money.

[1424] If you make more than $60 ,000 a year, you're probably not that much of a moron.

[1425] Right?

[1426] You've done well.

[1427] I mean.

[1428] If you have that money to blow on psychics, that's what's confusing about it.

[1429] It's crazy.

[1430] It's crazy.

[1431] And I think it got to the point where her psychics started feeling guilty because he told her that she, he had to like cut her off that's like a drug dealer being like you're hilarious bro you you're taking in too much of this crack i thought she was kidding when she said it her psychic cut her off yeah oh my god that's funny amazing it's a whack it was a wacky interview those are dirty people they're evil people those people those are even eviler your your father is talking to me from beyond the grave i i sense he misses you yeah oh give me money give me money i was talking to your dead dad Do you believe in any kind of psychic powers?

[1432] I think it is likely that there are evolving senses that we are aware of and that we recognize, but that no one in this current state of evolution has a handle on how to control them.

[1433] I think there are moments when you think about people and they call you.

[1434] I think there are times when you know someone's lying.

[1435] There's a feeling you get when you know someone secretly hates you.

[1436] there's weird things where you go i knew that fucker there's something and i don't know is it like body language that you're picking up it could be that yeah it could be that but there's also things like when you think about someone and they call yeah people say oh that's a coincidence it you're right it could be a coincidence yeah but i'm not buying that all the time i think sometimes it's a coincidence but i think sometimes there's a strange interconnectedness to life yeah and i think that we used to be animals with no language and then we develop language and you're basically when you're talking to me when you and I are talking and you're speaking with your language you're making sounds and I read your mind through those sounds and I recognize those sounds mean particular things I put them into my own organization of what they mean to me and they mean different things to different people which is why it gets things get confusing which is also why I'm so ruthlessly opposed to compliance because you're forcing me to accept your definition of what these sounds mean and what that means in terms of like what what the actual context of it is and what what what what the intent is behind these sounds and it's it's creepy and sneaky yeah wildly debunked yes but I think exactly it's been wildly it's been wildly debunked by my opinion drives me crazy but also just words you can and can't say.

[1437] But there's something about human beings where I feel like there is a connection that's like almost there.

[1438] Yeah.

[1439] It's like it comes together sometimes.

[1440] It's like just every now and then you get it, but you don't always have it.

[1441] There's something and when you do mushrooms, you have it in a big way.

[1442] Yeah.

[1443] You know, one of the things of ayahuasca, when they first discovered ayahuasca, one of the ingredients that was later recognized as being already discovered to be a compound called Harmean, they started calling it telepathene.

[1444] So the first people that were studying ayahuasca, the first scholars that were studying it, were the researchers were calling it telepathine until they realized that, you know, do the rules of scientific nomenclature, it had already been established that was Harmin.

[1445] So they knew what the thing was.

[1446] But they were calling it.

[1447] telepathy because through this compound, people were having these shared experiences without talking.

[1448] And then when they relayed these experiences, they were actually communicating without talking.

[1449] And they were saying there's a type of telepathy that's possible with this drug.

[1450] I think we are becoming something.

[1451] And if we don't interfere, we probably will technologically and with neuralink and all these other crazy things.

[1452] If we don't interfere, I think we will ultimately.

[1453] ultimately become more and more in tune with that, our ability to sense things and communicate non -verbally and read each other non -verbally.

[1454] There's something about, there's something about us where we connect in this way that is, you can't measure it.

[1455] You can't put it on a scale.

[1456] You can't put a tape measure to it, but there's something to it.

[1457] I agree.

[1458] My best friend and I have always had that psychic connection and we just thought the adults weren't witches like we were in that they sucked so we always developed it and to this day i can be like call me sarah telepathically and she will literally within like a day it feels like i'll hear from her randomly and she'll it's just a we like intuitively know when we need each other and i worked with autistic kids for a while and part one of my many jobs and i kind of have a weird theory that autism and the rise of it is the human brain and evolution and it just hasn't, we're kind of catching it mid -evolution because those kids have amazing gifts.

[1459] I saw some crazy shit working with autistic kids.

[1460] Just things that didn't make any sense, like my one example, I was working with a kid and he was non -verbal.

[1461] And we were in the playroom and he was, you know, he kept, he was obsessed with flies.

[1462] He would get obsessed with different things at different times.

[1463] And he would look up and then look back and look up and he was in his we were like locked i thought it was locked it wasn't and he runs out of the room suddenly runs through the laundry room runs into the kitchen and then midair grabs a fly as it's flying yeah i saw this i was running on his heels trying to catch him i was like what the fuck and then he brings it back into the playroom and he would like basically play with the fly until eventually it died yeah um and that was just just one of the I mean there were so many moments like that with all these different kids where I'm like they're tapped into something else yeah and if you lived in a world and say you had a six sense say that you had say that you lived in a world where nobody could see and you were the only person who could see you'd be banging your fucking head on the wall too if you could see and everyone was like what are you talking about is it so sometimes I wonder if it's not they're not like you're saying maybe the brain is evolving and we're just catching it just doesn't fit in society so they're they're feeling because there's a lot that I don't know I just saw so many of the autistic kids are just an amazing little some people have that feeling when it comes to autism and autistic kids that maybe that's an emerging type of consciousness and that even though we're looking at today as being a detriment right that it might be the standard in the future yeah I mean they have amazing because like you were saying we're animals and we're we've done, I've always been fascinated with how out of touch we are with our instincts, because they still run the show for all of us.

[1464] Most people, yeah, most people right now, there's so much fear in that you can feel it everywhere.

[1465] There's so much fear.

[1466] Yeah.

[1467] Everyone's in fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, everywhere.

[1468] And that drives so much of this behavior that we're seeing, like tribalism and trying to be a tyrant and rule over people and feeling like you have to stop anything that.

[1469] doesn't make you feel that even that language like I don't feel safe what is that because of words like what does that even fucking mean I don't feel safe I'm not okay okay you like burning down a city is supposed to be okay you know it's a weird we live in like weird times wherever there's so much but I feel like I think it was really shown in the tsunami remember that huge tsunami that was in like 2006 was it or 2005 no no no not the one in Japan, the one that was in the Indian Ocean.

[1470] Yeah.

[1471] And all the animals ran away.

[1472] And all the humans ran to go see all the shells and shit and why the ocean was, there were tons of people who drowned because they were like, what's happening?

[1473] Yeah.

[1474] And that's just evidenced to me of how out of touch with, I wonder if our ancestors would have made that same mistake where they're like, what's happening?

[1475] I don't know.

[1476] I don't know.

[1477] Or would they have been like, we're following the animals?

[1478] Well, there's a real wonder, like, what kind of, of what kind of understanding of animals and of the land and storms coming and all sorts of of shit that animals seem to tune in that did we lose yeah when we you know had houses and did we lose it is what I'm wondering wonder right or did we just never have it and we're morons maybe maybe that's well don't you think also we're so much more capable of expressing ourselves we're so much more occupied with tasks and things and whether it's information or computers or TV or different people that we're talking to constantly, that the mind is overwhelmed.

[1479] Yeah.

[1480] And that, how much time do you spend in the woods?

[1481] I spend a lot of time in nature.

[1482] Well, when you're there and you hear nothing, it's weird.

[1483] Oh, I love it.

[1484] Like, there's a weird quiet to the mountains.

[1485] Like, there's a desert too.

[1486] Yeah.

[1487] I love it.

[1488] And it also, it's humbling because it lets you know, you ain't shit.

[1489] Not shit.

[1490] You ain't shit.

[1491] That's why I love the desert.

[1492] I love it because it puts me in my place.

[1493] It's like everything in the desert has evolved to survive the harshest conditions on earth.

[1494] And everything there is either trying to kill you or will kill you.

[1495] And there's something about that painful evolution that all the plants and animals had to undergo that just speaks to me and just even the harsh.

[1496] I mean, it's like nine o 'clock in the morning.

[1497] and you're like, it's so high.

[1498] You're like, I'm going to die.

[1499] And it's also, it doesn't care about you.

[1500] No. And this ecosystem has existed long before you ever hear, and it's all working together.

[1501] The bugs are working with the lizards, with the snakes, and the plants, and the little water that there is, and the coyotes, and all this shit is working together.

[1502] Yep.

[1503] And it's maintaining this system.

[1504] But I love that.

[1505] I mean, that's the thing that I feel like people are losing when they're looking down into these demonic boxes all day.

[1506] long is that connection to you know having your feet kind of being made of mud but also made of stars that famous quote i'm butchering but we are made of star dust that we are part you know i'll look out at the stars and be like what the fuck i'm part of this i'm not even high and i can experience that trip of yeah we aren't separate from i'm not looking at the stars it's like i'm part of that crazy and we're all just it's such a miracle that we're here in this time and space and it's such a wild trip and we're and we have more than we've ever had in the in the history of humans and we're wasting it tearing each other apart it actually hurts my soul when there's a lot of wasted energy for sure that's why when I see people you know when people are like how okay little miss captain of the fence riding team you know what he should ride fences I'm going to get a t -shirt that says Captain of the Fence Riding Team.

[1507] I'll wear.

[1508] And you are truly the captain.

[1509] Listen, I don't believe, I'm not married to any of my thoughts.

[1510] Yeah, I don't think, I think it's good to question everything including yourself.

[1511] Yeah.

[1512] And there's some thoughts, like, hey, don't murder people.

[1513] Don't steal.

[1514] Don't rape.

[1515] Don't, you know.

[1516] Don't, like, pillage.

[1517] Yeah.

[1518] There's a lot of things are like real clear.

[1519] Be nice to old people.

[1520] Yeah, don't drown old people.

[1521] Like, yeah, there's a lot of like real clear ones.

[1522] But when it comes to whether it's government or behavior or ideology or any of the things that we hold so rigid, I think it's really dangerous.

[1523] It's really dangerous to look at things the way we look at things, to have these non -pliable opinions.

[1524] Yeah, yeah.

[1525] And also connect all of our own feelings of importance to these opinions being valid.

[1526] Yeah.

[1527] Connect who you are as a person.

[1528] Like who your, your value as a person to whether or not the opinions that you hold are true.

[1529] Yeah, that's crazy.

[1530] So you will fight to the death for those opinions.

[1531] Well, that was so common.

[1532] It's so common.

[1533] That was like all the Trump supporters who were in my comments.

[1534] It was like I attacked them personally.

[1535] Like I had gone to their house and personally attacked them and their mom and told them that they were shit.

[1536] And like, you guys, you can't personally identify with politicians are the biggest pieces of shit ever.

[1537] they are Trump's not a politician that's why we like me he's out here to drain the swamp I love it when they're like we're not listening to Hollywood I'm like your your hero is Hollywood you know what are you talking about well that's hilarious when people call you Hollywood like what does that mean no has it been show business no it's it's it's I just I feel like we deserve better yeah we definitely you know in this election makes me feel like we definitely do we deserve and but we don't we deserve this because this is where we've left it.

[1538] We've left it to this.

[1539] Like nobody wants to be fucking president.

[1540] There's a few people that you could get behind, like Tulsi Gabbard, that you go, I think that's who she is.

[1541] I mean, I don't think there's any bullshit there.

[1542] But there's very few of those.

[1543] The people that are willing to run for president, this is the kind of people that are willing to do this because most of the people, most of the people that think about, they go, ooh, my fucking skeletons.

[1544] I have a friend of mine.

[1545] That's funny.

[1546] But that's what it is.

[1547] I mean, I was just thinking it would be a shit job and I would hate it.

[1548] And I would hate myself because I think by the time you get there, in order to even maneuver, you have to sell yourself out so many times that you don't even know.

[1549] Well, you think about how many people are just waiting to attack anybody who's running for president and about the way they ramp up their attacks and the machine behind it.

[1550] It's not as simple as like, I'm Joe Biden and I think Donald Trump's a fucking loser.

[1551] And so I'm going to say that.

[1552] No, there's like a whole machine with literally billions of dollars.

[1553] dollars on the line because if our team gets in there then we can push our agenda we can get certain bills passed we can get certain legislation through we can make sure that certain regulations stack the courts yes and it's it can literally one way or the other impact corporations in this spectacular way yeah so they have to really really put a lot of effort into it so the idea that that that's that's where things get crazy like it should be it's almost like if you want to run for president you almost should have no help like no one no one would be like grassroots like they take you and they take away your phone and they they they keep you in a hotel room and they just bring you place to place and no one gets to talk to you isn't that a i see though she's pretty grassroots or she has like a whole organization behind the tribe the justice league or whatever the squad squad i call them the tribe but they also have like the what's it what is it what is it the like democratic justice league or something is that some super friends it's like the it's a pretty socialist i think organization well she's got a lot of people that also agree with her that are also in politics and they also work together and you know and then she's compromised some of her own democratic socialists of america i can't wait until she's a republican in like 10 years you think well you're telling me that you had read some of your shit oh my god i'm gonna find it for you i just it it is it is like it was a part of the book when i I was waiting tables telling everyone to remember my name and drunk all the time.

[1554] I was, I was super, there was a whole part where I was talking about Bush.

[1555] I didn't know anything about politics at all, but I was, I was just so, I was a libtard.

[1556] Like the definition, by definition of what the right would consider a libtard, that was.

[1557] Well, you weren't hardened yet by the world.

[1558] I mean, I was pretty hardened.

[1559] I had had enough shit up in prior to 23 that yeah but you were still hopeful that these sort of airy -fairy idealistic notions of what you know what should be done with our culture and that this would work and with no understanding of economics no understanding of I think it's good to be that hopeful I don't think you should go burn down government buildings and be like yeah let's tear it all down but I think it's good to have that idealistic hope in your what is that famous quote like you're you're you're uh if you don't if you're not a democrat in your 20s you don't have a heart and if you're not a Republican in your 30s you don't have a brain or something like that or you're not a conservative it's an old yeah it's an old saying if you're not a liberal as a youth you have no heart if you're not a conservative as you're old you have no brain I'm and I'm not really either because you know I'm not socially conservative at all me neither I mean that's where they It's funny when people were like, oh, she's just a grifter.

[1560] She's gotten red -pilled and she's going to be on the right now.

[1561] And then the right will start talking about porn or something.

[1562] I'm like, oh, thank God, I'm not one of them.

[1563] Or sex or whatever weird shit.

[1564] Weird shit, yeah.

[1565] Or, you know, whether or not, I mean, you know, these ideas that you have to be one or the other is where it's so stupid.

[1566] Yeah.

[1567] You can hold both things.

[1568] That is what we should be doing.

[1569] We should be holding both things and evaluating them.

[1570] Well, especially, it's really difficult for me when people want to restrict other people's ability to express themselves or do things, whether it's, you know, gay rights or trans rights or civil rights or women's rights.

[1571] Anytime you want to stop people from doing something that literally has nothing to do with you.

[1572] Yeah.

[1573] You know, like the gay rights one was, the gay marriage one was always weird to me. Like, when I was seven years old, I was seven years old, we moved to Florida.

[1574] And I had this Cuban friend, his name was Candy, Candido.

[1575] His last name was Candido, and they called him Candy.

[1576] I love that.

[1577] And his dad was so mad.

[1578] He had a newspaper.

[1579] He's slamming it down on the fucking table.

[1580] And we're like, what's the matter?

[1581] He's like, they're going to let these fags marry each other.

[1582] Oh, my gosh.

[1583] I was, how old was I?

[1584] 11 yeah I was 11 because I'd moved from San Francisco so I was 11 and I remember thinking what a fucking idiot this guy's a grown man see I lived in San Francisco from 7 to 11 so I was like I was right down the street from Lombard Street yeah yeah so we were around like my next door neighbors they would get naked they were these gay guys they would get naked with my aunt and they would smoke pot and play the bongos that was my life when I was seven years old so I was so used to gay people It was so normal for me that being around this guy when I was 11, I was like, this is so weird.

[1585] Yeah, it's so weird.

[1586] Because I moved from San Francisco to Florida.

[1587] Oh, wow.

[1588] Gainesville, Florida, which was so dumb in an apartment complex.

[1589] So it was like people weren't doing so good and they were so dumb.

[1590] And it was too hot.

[1591] It was too hot to be smart.

[1592] There's something I think about Florida.

[1593] It's like, God damn, it's so hot down there.

[1594] You can't be smart.

[1595] It's hard.

[1596] It's hard.

[1597] That's gone.

[1598] But I was just saying that, like, so I don't understand why people who are conservative, like, why, why, if you're fiscally conservative, that makes sense.

[1599] If you're financially conservative, if you believe in the second amendment, you have all these ideas about rights.

[1600] Like, we have rights.

[1601] But why do you give a fuck of people get married?

[1602] Like what?

[1603] You know, Caitlin Jenner, when she transitioned, was against gay marriage?

[1604] Oh, weird.

[1605] She's like, I've always been more of a traditional girl.

[1606] what she has on the Ellen show oh yeah on the Ellen show Ellen confronted her Ellen confronted her about it wow and it was like what what what happened to what that what I don't understand what well she's Republican right is she still I don't know but probably not oh but if you're I think so maybe but when you're Republican that's one of those things you're supposed to just subscribed to.

[1607] It seems like they've accepted that that's not a battle they're winning.

[1608] Well, it's evolution of the culture.

[1609] Yeah.

[1610] At a certain important time, like, don't you know any gay people that are cool?

[1611] Yeah.

[1612] Like, do you really give a fuck if they get married?

[1613] Yeah.

[1614] Marriage is dumb.

[1615] Anybody dumb enough to get married should be allowed to give away after shit.

[1616] We were in Arizona and this guy was talking about his daughter and she is gay and divorced and I was like, oh, I'm glad the gay know what divorce is all about now they're probably going to regret fighting for that marriage thing they're paying for half an alimony they're like gosh shit Melissa Etheridge was on the podcast years ago and she's been married and divorced a couple times and she was telling me all these women she's got to pay alamony to I go what's that all about she goes bitches are crazy and I was like oh you can say that only a gay woman has been divorced it's paying all these women alimony and especially like it's not like she fucked them so hard they can never work again yeah like no you used to be in a relationship with a successful person you're not anymore time to get a job no they can't they can't she licked their pussy so good they're just confused they can't even fill out forms that they can't work anymore whose stand -up is that I'm accustomed to this I'm a custom I think it's Chris Rock yeah he's like you get accustomed to things I'm accustomed to getting my dick sucked.

[1617] Yeah.

[1618] I need pussy payments.

[1619] That's what it was, right?

[1620] Yeah.

[1621] I think about that a lot.

[1622] It is a, look, I think marriage is great.

[1623] If you love someone so much, you're willing to do something stupid.

[1624] Yeah.

[1625] That's my situation.

[1626] Like, I just think it's, you know, and it makes sense when you have family.

[1627] It makes sense when you have children.

[1628] Because the way I felt like, I felt like having a child is way more of a commitment than anything financial.

[1629] You're making a human being, bring them in the world, and you're responsible for them for at least 18 years.

[1630] At least.

[1631] Now it's like 25.

[1632] Dude, I know people that are 40 that live with their parents right now.

[1633] Especially during COVID.

[1634] It's tough.

[1635] Yeah.

[1636] Yeah.

[1637] We've all become like European families.

[1638] Yeah.

[1639] Intergenerational.

[1640] Well, you've got to survive.

[1641] Yeah.

[1642] The reality is like it's not a bad idea to pool all your resources together and try to survive.

[1643] And help each other.

[1644] Right.

[1645] Because we really are at a crossroads.

[1646] like when when you realize it makes us realize how good we had it for so many years when you know people the economy was booming and people could be independent and out there supporting themselves but then when all that shit is literally cut in half like you got to make do you got to figure it out yeah yeah and i think it's better for people to be around other people yes because all my friends who have been isolated you know people it's way more open here oh yeah but my friends in la are losing their minds who have been alone because it's been going on like six months now.

[1647] It is way more open here, isn't it?

[1648] Yeah, way more open.

[1649] That's why I love it.

[1650] Yeah, it feels normal.

[1651] Yeah, it does.

[1652] It just feel, you wear a mask.

[1653] Go to a restaurant.

[1654] Yeah, go to a restaurant.

[1655] It's crazy.

[1656] Isn't amazing?

[1657] It's nice.

[1658] It's nice.

[1659] It's been nice to just feel kind of what normal was.

[1660] Retail stores are open.

[1661] You go to retail store.

[1662] Put a mask on.

[1663] And L .A. definitely, I mean, it's, when I was walking my dog in L .A., every single day, I have to avoid a crazy, there was a guy with a machete there was and then i walked out and then i was two days every walk i go on there's basically like a crazy homeless girl a young woman who's out alone and they're having some kind of breakdown and um it gets worse and worse every day it's like it is deteriorating faster than i could have even imagined and it makes me mad because the government doesn't give a fuck about me they don't care about my safety i'm supposed to have endless compassion for the homeless and they don't care that there's a guy with a machete having a moment.

[1664] Well, not that they don't care.

[1665] They can't do anything about it.

[1666] They can, though.

[1667] Their only job is to somewhat keep me safe as a citizen.

[1668] That is what they, why am I paying taxes if they can't do that?

[1669] This is why I'm like, fuck you, California.

[1670] You're paying taxes to keep these politicians fed. Okay, but they need to make sure that I'm not getting attacked.

[1671] Well, I walk my dog.

[1672] But that's the problem with some people.

[1673] place as big as L .A. There's like a diffusion of responsibility thing that you get to when you get to numbers that are so high when you get to like 20 million people.

[1674] You know, there's like a expression about how, not an expression, but there's an example about how when people see someone getting attacked, like if there's only one person there and someone's getting attacked, you feel responsible to help.

[1675] But if you're in a crowd and someone's attacking someone.

[1676] Everyone assumes everyone else.

[1677] Yeah, everyone assumes someone else is going to jump in and nobody does anything.

[1678] Yeah, but But it's not...

[1679] And nobody feels responsible.

[1680] It's been notably worse.

[1681] You know, there has to be something.

[1682] People are paying tons of money.

[1683] I was in Venice.

[1684] I was in Brentwood.

[1685] These people are paying millions of dollars in taxes.

[1686] And they have encampments across the street from their house.

[1687] They're kids playing.

[1688] Yeah.

[1689] It's not safe for...

[1690] No. You know, there...

[1691] Something has to...

[1692] It's interesting, too.

[1693] Jamie and I were talking about this because they, before just the, way I don't even know if they know how many actual homeless people are there because I volunteered once to be part of the homeless count and that's how they count the homeless is volunteers who go through L .A. for like one weekend and count as many homeless people as they can.

[1694] And do you write down what streets you're on?

[1695] Yeah and you like go in little groups and um how made you find I didn't I never I was out of town that weekend.

[1696] My aunt was like please don't do that.

[1697] But I legitimately was out of town that weekend, so I ended up not being able to do it.

[1698] But I was like, oh, cool, this is how they count the homeless, but that doesn't seem like a very good measure of how many their homeless people there are.

[1699] I bet it's probably like twice as many as it actually reports.

[1700] How are you getting...

[1701] Yeah, that's a lot of people.

[1702] 70 ,000, they say now?

[1703] They think New York City has 80 ,000.

[1704] Wow.

[1705] They're idiots.

[1706] Just New York City.

[1707] They should be in L .A. It's a way better better place to be homeless yeah LA is like tolerable well because now they've got under the underpass yeah but during COVID they've loosened all those restrictions so it used to be like you couldn't block the sidewalk yeah and you couldn't with your we saw somebody grilling a freaking like it was a huge fire on a grill on the side of the road it was like a habachi or some shit like when just having a grill in the middle and there's women with their strollers trying to walk it's madness I don't know so bad And I have, that's the one, I feel like it's the one problem if I could solve, I would focus on solving it.

[1708] You would focus on homelessness.

[1709] Because it's such a crossroads of economics, mental illness, addiction.

[1710] It's so many things that are abuse.

[1711] I was watching a video about this kid.

[1712] He was 28 and he's been homeless literally on the street since he was nine years old.

[1713] He was in a car with his mom.

[1714] They were living in a car until they were 11.

[1715] And then from 11 on, he was on the street.

[1716] Yeah, it was terrible.

[1717] And he was talking about, I mean, he had no teeth, like his front teeth were gone.

[1718] He had his face reconstructed, his arm smashed, somebody beat him up with a bat.

[1719] He, you know, had been sexually abused.

[1720] He didn't have any socks.

[1721] He didn't have any shoes.

[1722] He didn't have anything.

[1723] Yep.

[1724] He had, you know, he talked about the small amount of clothes he had.

[1725] And it was kind of weird because he was, you know, really for a person who has been homeless and on the street in this horrible life since he was nine, kind of seemed pretty together.

[1726] Like the way he was talking, communicating, at least in this video.

[1727] And, you know, you realize this is the thing about people.

[1728] When, if you're mad at someone, say if you're mad at someone for their behavior, like, say if you're a gay person, you're mad that Caitlin Jenner doesn't believe in gay marriage, even though she wanted to transition and wants you to call her a woman now.

[1729] Instead of being mad, and I guess you could be mad at the idea.

[1730] But I think what we really need to start doing is look like, what?

[1731] What happened?

[1732] How'd you get, like, what are all the things that took place in your life that you turned into this right now?

[1733] Like, what are those things?

[1734] You know, this is the concept of determinism, right?

[1735] This is the concept that there is no real free will.

[1736] Right.

[1737] Everyone is sort of an accumulation of all the experiences that they've had, their genetics, their life, all the different factors that are out of their control, along with those decisions that they've made because of these factors and all your emotions and genes and drug addiction and all these different things.

[1738] things and it brings you to this point and I think this is the thing with homeless people that we need to take into consideration as well because when you see someone who's homeless and you're like oh this fucking loser oh they're a drug addict oh get them away from my house the amount of undoing you have to have to take a 40 -year -old person who's grilling in front of a house in Venice with heroin tracks all over their arm and make them a a reasonable contributor to society, a healthy person who can, you know, kind of do anything.

[1739] I know.

[1740] I know.

[1741] There's so much undoing.

[1742] I have, I do have endless compassion, but on the other hand, there's a lot of entitlement.

[1743] There's a lot of entitlement in the homeless community.

[1744] There is, but they don't have anything.

[1745] Like, if you don't have anything and you look at people who have things, like this is one of the things you're seeing with a lot of these riots, a lot of the looting and all the craziness.

[1746] It's like halves and have -nots.

[1747] Yeah, yeah.

[1748] And they have not, so like, these motherfuckers, why do they have this?

[1749] Especially during COVID because everybody has nothing, right?

[1750] These homeless people don't have anything.

[1751] They feel entitled because they don't have anything and you do.

[1752] And there's a weird thing that people have this thought that if you have something and they don't have it, it's because there's an injustice and you have contributed to this injustice or you've caused this injustice.

[1753] That's where the entitlement comes.

[1754] And it's a real problem in the way Americans in particular.

[1755] particularly think about in particular with think about economics yeah it's resentment politics yes it's all resentment and you can get a lot of people to agree with you oh yeah because most people most people also don't have good things like I was reading this tweet from this girl was talking about um you know like we we need to start going into the suburbs and going into these people's houses yeah and then she wrote eat the rich yeah that's a big thing right now and I was like what what are you talking about with so you're 24 okay what do you think is going to happen when you're 44 and you're one of those people yeah exactly you're happy with that you're happy when you're tired because you've been working all day trying to achieve a dream and you're exhausted and you see these people outside your house how the fuck do you have this house how are you in that house all comfortable as fuck yeah but we're out here you know yeah i'm sure you've seen some of those people too right there was one video from i think canosha and this guy i'm not sure if that's one it was from but it just stuck with me he was like yelling at the, they had smashed his windows and he was like, I have fucking mouths to feed.

[1756] He's like, do you want everybody to vote for Trump?

[1757] I have fucking mouths to feed.

[1758] What are you doing?

[1759] And like they'd smash as well, you know, people, they don't know what they're doing.

[1760] And so many, so many of the kids on the streets are truly kids like, 17.

[1761] Yes.

[1762] Children.

[1763] I'm like, where are your parents?

[1764] We have a fucking parenting problem.

[1765] The kid in the Kenosha that went up killing those people.

[1766] Are they on Instagram?

[1767] The parents are.

[1768] They're like, yeah, honey, go have fun.

[1769] This motherfucker.

[1770] he's not liking my shit resentment resentment resentment yeah we you know we have a lot of problems and there's a lot of us and uh we could all like we we could all do with some house cleaning and compassion yeah i think compassion for each other compassion clean up your own backyard get your life together do your best nobody wants to do that shit they want to blame everyone exactly Nobody wants to clean the shit in their front yard and not do drugs that are, you know, they're spending all their money on.

[1771] They want to go out and be like, the libs are ruining my life or like burn down a fucking building.

[1772] And it's weird how there's certain environments that just tolerate, like, homelessness and craziness.

[1773] And then those folks find those environments, like Venice.

[1774] Yeah.

[1775] Like Venice is just a, it's a breeding ground for it.

[1776] It's crazy.

[1777] There's just so much, it's such a, that, it is.

[1778] is really just so complex i don't even know how you being it but i don't i do wonder why some obviously some cities are doing things that where it isn't festering and exploding and some cities are so why don't what are what are the cities that have it somewhat under control republican that's the problem busting them to l a yeah they're law and order people like like juliani was when you know he was the law and order guy in new york go it's a good question i don't know i don't know what they do with them i don't know how they help them i don't know what they do there was an upper west side thing recently where they had a hotel and they had like 300 homeless guys living in this hotel but then they started like jerking off in front of people and you know taking shits on people's cars and stuff and then de blasio had to move them out and now people are pissed off at him for taking these people out and but you know it was really it was mostly men mostly homeless men and was really crazy was this article that was written about it was so distorted.

[1779] It was like homeless families are being relocated when their kids are just now going to school.

[1780] Like first of all, yes, literally.

[1781] This is pulling at the heartstrings.

[1782] There's been a bunch of things they're doing lately to pull at the heart.

[1783] But this was one of the most preposterous articles that I read.

[1784] One of them was they're calling, they're now calling homeless people the unhoused.

[1785] No, it's persons experiencing houselessness.

[1786] We're going to be canceled for calling them homeless.

[1787] No, the unhoused.

[1788] No, it's person.

[1789] L .A. Times, last week.

[1790] Oh, it's upgraded?

[1791] Unhoused, the unhoused.

[1792] This was an article about people that were putting rocks underpasses.

[1793] When homeless people had moved out of certain areas, they were going under these underpasses and putting these enormous rocks so that people couldn't put tents in.

[1794] And they were saying, do you understand what you're doing to the unhoused?

[1795] These are the only places they can go to escape the elements.

[1796] The reason why they go into that underpass, it's literally the difference between life and death.

[1797] There, there is that, that's also somewhat of a myth because there is this, there are beds sometimes that go empty because people don't want to give up their drugs and weapons.

[1798] Yeah.

[1799] So they're, the idea that like, oh, these, they don't have anywhere else to go isn't always true.

[1800] Well, they're drug addicts, Bridget, you need to take a little bit more compassion when you're making these statements because these people that are drug addicts, they don't know what to do.

[1801] It is.

[1802] And they need their drugs.

[1803] You should let them just do their drugs.

[1804] Does it feel like we're on the backside of the empire?

[1805] Yeah.

[1806] Yeah, it feels like Rome right before it collapses.

[1807] Yeah, I mean, one of the things that Douglas Murray said when I interviewed him, I guess I don't interview anybody, right?

[1808] I talk to people.

[1809] I should remember that.

[1810] But when I was talking about, he was saying that at the end of every empire, there's all these gender issues where hermaphrodites.

[1811] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1812] He went into depth about it.

[1813] It's like Rome and Greece.

[1814] They always had this thing where, like, you're like, They want to break down all the, there is no gender, there's no sex, there's no biology, deconstruct everything.

[1815] And they also, they deconstruct all the norms, all the norms of culture.

[1816] And one of the more disconcerting ones is deconstructing pedophilia.

[1817] That has been a constant one lately where you're seeing.

[1818] There's a weird petal vibe everywhere.

[1819] Well, you know, that thing.

[1820] Cudies?

[1821] Oh, cuties is crazy.

[1822] Okay, yeah.

[1823] That's, I was talking about the Gavin Newsom thing.

[1824] where they passed that.

[1825] Did that pass?

[1826] Yes, it passed.

[1827] He passed.

[1828] He signed it.

[1829] And they said it was a great victory for LGBTQ people.

[1830] What?

[1831] Because before it was defund.

[1832] This is how, this is the idea.

[1833] I might be butchering it, but I'm going to do my best.

[1834] Before, if you had vaginal sex with a girl and impregnated her and say like maybe you were 20 and she was 14, they didn't put you in a sex register list because they wanted you to.

[1835] be responsible for taking care of the baby that you created.

[1836] So this was the idea.

[1837] But if you had anal or oral sex with her, then they would put you on the sex offender list.

[1838] Oh, weird.

[1839] Yeah.

[1840] Well, it's because you're just being a pervert, right?

[1841] You're just mouth fucking some 14 year old as opposed to making a baby that you would then be responsible for.

[1842] That's a weird line.

[1843] So, okay, but this is why they wanted to pass this law and this is why it would for LBGTQ folks, whatever, gay people, whatever, is they wanted, they said, well, the vagina is not available to gay folks.

[1844] Okay.

[1845] Because these guys don't have a vagina.

[1846] So if you're saying that a 20 -year -old can have sex with a 14 -year -old girl and not be put on a sex registered registry, how come a 20 -year -old man can have sex with a 14 -year -old boy and he is all of a sudden a sex crime?

[1847] He's committed to sex crime.

[1848] And they're like, this is not fair.

[1849] So the idea is that it's in the judgment, the judge gets to decide.

[1850] Okay.

[1851] So I guess you're giving the judge the ability to decide one way or another.

[1852] So you give them the ability to discern whether or not this was someone who's in an actual relationship with a person who can commit, which is very weird.

[1853] Right.

[1854] Right.

[1855] A certain person who can consent.

[1856] so but the problem with people have the they gave a 10 year gap so you know like oh like 14 24 or you could say 10 and 20 like I don't know what it means or where it's where it's defined yeah that's weird it's crazy but they're only doing it because it already existed in that form for straight people right okay so it's not like this see like we're looking at it like saying oh now you're making it legal for 24 year olds to fuck 14 year olds right But it's already, it's already kind of like that with straight people if they have vaginal sex.

[1857] Right.

[1858] Wow, that's wild.

[1859] It's wild.

[1860] I didn't even know that that was not, you know, I don't know.

[1861] I thought it was like statutory.

[1862] I think even, but I think if you impregnate, I think this is the idea.

[1863] If the person's impregnated, the judge has the ability to not put them on the sex offender list so that that person can get a job.

[1864] Right.

[1865] So you could support your child.

[1866] Right, right.

[1867] especially in impoverished areas right right that's yeah the whole it seems like it's everywhere the cuties thing that's more complicated than cuties cuties here's here's something crazy there was a story in Atlanta where these these guys had rescued 39 kids yeah from sex slavery I didn't hear a fucking word no nobody heard about this I saw a hundred articles about Ellen being mean yeah a hundred yeah and I didn't see more than One, one day in and out of the news about these 39 kids that were rescued.

[1868] Yeah, that's another one that is really, I was in a rest stop.

[1869] It was like a truck stop on the way here, and they had the signs, you know, it's like, are you being human trafficked?

[1870] And they're in rest stops across America.

[1871] And it's like, are you working against your will?

[1872] Are you being forced to do set?

[1873] I was like, shouldn't this be in like three other languages?

[1874] Well, there was a story recently about a flight attendant, and there was a man on, a flight with a young girl and the young girl wrote a letter and left it in the bathroom and the flight attendant got the letter and recognized that something was going.

[1875] She was making eye contact with the kid.

[1876] She knew something was wrong.

[1877] And then upon landing, they had police waiting.

[1878] Oh, wow.

[1879] Yeah.

[1880] Yeah.

[1881] So it's, I mean, that's another one where it's real.

[1882] Yeah.

[1883] It's a real problem.

[1884] Human trafficking and sex trafficking is terrifying.

[1885] Terrifying.

[1886] Yeah.

[1887] And crazy and hideous and odious and all of the worst things in the world and.

[1888] But then you have cuties which is like what are you doing?

[1889] What are they doing?

[1890] I know I've seen the argument.

[1891] We explain to people that don't know what the fuck cuties are.

[1892] So cuties is that it's a movie on Netflix it's a foreign film.

[1893] I believe the director is French is she French?

[1894] Oh yes I was looking at the Atlanta thing.

[1895] Oh that's all right.

[1896] I just don't know that I'm correct about that and it's supposed to be a movie about the hypersexualization and exploitation of young young girls.

[1897] Critics of QD say the Netflix film hypersexualizes a pre -teen dance troupe, but director Ruhavu said Monday that she is fighting the same fight, in quotes, they are, to stop the exploitation of young girls.

[1898] So the way she stops it is by sexualizing them?

[1899] Well, I guess that you know...

[1900] Try saying her name.

[1901] Say that name.

[1902] My Mona du Corre Quick question Yes Do you remember the movie Kids I do That was a pretty fucked up movie Yeah that was a That was about kids being wild And it was an actual movie about real kids Yeah but he's fucked up That director is fucked up It's really fucked up There's another movie called like 13 About two 13 year old girls a couple years ago And they were like taking ecstasy And then all sorts of wild shit But the thing about kids is kids was a documentary No it was a documentary They're all actors.

[1903] Those are all actors.

[1904] Wait, am I thinking of the same movie?

[1905] Yeah.

[1906] Coy Sveniers in one in it and like the...

[1907] But wasn't there one that was a documentary?

[1908] It was filmed a little bit like a documentary, but it wasn't.

[1909] Oh.

[1910] Oh, that's right.

[1911] That movie starts with sex right out of the opening scene.

[1912] What year is that?

[1913] I saw when I was, I got rented it from the library when I was in like seventh grade, sixth grade.

[1914] Yeah.

[1915] So like, I was young too.

[1916] 90s.

[1917] Okay.

[1918] I fucked up.

[1919] I thought that was a documentary.

[1920] That guy seemed like it.

[1921] Yeah.

[1922] But it got a. a lot of shit when it came out, didn't it?

[1923] I feel like it was...

[1924] I think I never saw it, and I think it was out pre -internet.

[1925] I think, oh, definitely pre -internet.

[1926] Probably 94, 95, something like that.

[1927] Yeah, it was fucked up.

[1928] It was a fucking...

[1929] The director has done a lot of other...

[1930] Larry Clark.

[1931] Sketchy shit, right?

[1932] Mm -hmm.

[1933] What other movies is he done?

[1934] Gummo was the other big one.

[1935] Oh, that was a weird one.

[1936] 95, yeah.

[1937] I made 20 million bucks.

[1938] Hollow.

[1939] Hmm.

[1940] Yeah, but I wonder what the...

[1941] I remember, I feel like that was pretty controversial.

[1942] Do you remember the movie, was it called Happy?

[1943] Mm -mm.

[1944] Is that it?

[1945] There was a really fucking weird movie about this kid who finds out that their dad is a pedophile.

[1946] Oh, God, that would be horrible.

[1947] Yeah, and the guy is, I think it's happiness.

[1948] And the guy is kind of normalized in the movie.

[1949] And it's like the kid is trying to...

[1950] My friends and I got in.

[1951] into this on Twitter about the cuties thing and you know I don't know that those girls are old enough to decide to do that film you know so it's that and some of the warnings on it and stuff like I don't even want to watch it it just seems I probably should and just but I don't really want to for other just whatever it just seems but my you know I don't think it's necessarily like Netflix's problem it seems more like a societal problem that we have Wait a minute, it's Netflix's problem to have it on their network.

[1952] They have it on their network, but it's like this writer Jane Koston said It's like the thing Adjacent.

[1953] She was like, has anyone been to a dance recital?

[1954] Because I was talking about like, have you ever been to dance recitals?

[1955] Like we had to do some fucked up shit when we were young kids like dress up and do the in the black and do the addicted to love and and leotards and red lipstick.

[1956] And I was little doing these dances.

[1957] John Bonae?

[1958] That's a whole fucking weird world.

[1959] Joey Diaz and I were in Dallas once.

[1960] And we were staying at this hotel.

[1961] We were doing the Addiston Improv.

[1962] We were staying at this hotel where they had one of those things going on in the hotel.

[1963] So there was a child beauty pageant in the hotel.

[1964] Yeah, they're weird.

[1965] It was fucking bizarre.

[1966] It's one thing to see it on TV, but to see five -year -olds in pumps with full makeup and blown out hair.

[1967] Remember this from Bad Grandpa with the Giant Knoxville movie a couple years ago?

[1968] They like, he picked up his grandson and, I mean, it was fake, but they were also pranking people.

[1969] So like it's not really fake.

[1970] Right, right, right.

[1971] And they dressed up like the little girl and they went and did this whole thing at the, and she starts doing that crazy dance and freaking everybody out.

[1972] Yeah, this is a boy, if I remember.

[1973] I mean, that's right.

[1974] This stuff is in our culture already.

[1975] That's, and I think that's more cuties aside and whatever.

[1976] But that kind of shit with little kids and those baby.

[1977] beauty pageant things like that is whoever greenlit that who's like yeah it looks good short skirt stick your ass out nice high heels yeah it's weird who said yes to that so that's that's my i guess my point is not necessarily my feelings about cutier just from what i've seen i'm like no but i also think that this is in our culture and we need to examine that that that this like the beauty pageants and the right you know and it's funny because of you Like, oh, QAnon is crazy and not everything is about pedophilia.

[1978] And then you see a cuties, you know, preview and you're like, oh, maybe there are tunnels under what is it?

[1979] My friend said, she's like, my brother said there are tunnels.

[1980] There are tunnels under the Getty or some shit for human trafficking.

[1981] I don't think that's true, but there was a fuck island.

[1982] Yeah.

[1983] That was real.

[1984] And the fact that prominent politicians, well, he went 20, six times not a lot of times wow you do a really great impression there's another fuck island north fox island oh i was never there michigan in the 70s oh really well there was a darker way darker story oh god i don't even way darker oh yeah how can it get darker than epstein i i had to like it's all videotaped and that's what i mean that's what i was have you seen the documentary well when epstein killed himself case closed i mean as far as i'm concerned wow you really do a great Phil Clinton, Breschen.

[1985] I was watching the documentary.

[1986] He was a good guy.

[1987] He had a nice plane.

[1988] You know the fucked up realization I had watching that documentary is that I would have been one of Epstein's girls.

[1989] Oh, right?

[1990] I was a fucked up 17 -year -old doing drugs.

[1991] What does it say, Jamie?

[1992] Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking young girls on his mysterious private island.

[1993] Over 40 years ago, a different millionaire escaped justice in a stunningly similar case.

[1994] I, you know, I had a conversation with Eric Weinstein about this, and he had a very, I think accurate perception of it he said I believe there are people who help curate experiences for high profile people who can't get these on their own because it's too dangerous and then someone comes along and normalizes it and lets you know it's okay I gotcha and everything's fine and this is how we do it and that this person in Epstein's case turns out to be intelligence you know that was the that was the accusation that who was the prosecutor that had to release him he was told what's his name accosta costa it was above his pay grade and that this man was intelligence and so he had to let him go because he was a part of the intelligence community so someone told him to let this guy go what yeah and so when when he got arrested the first time he got like a ridiculous sentence where he's allowed to go back to his house right he only had to be in jail during the day or be in jail at night and then had to be at his house during the day because he was working remember this too like this came out two years ago that's right Sasha Baron Cohen says he turned over disturbing who is America footage to the FBI Cohen says his show nearly helped the FBI expose a pedophile ring in Las Vegas doing what you're talking about providing experience someone was saying look we can we can help you we can get you these things and this is what's terrifying what's terrifying is that if if there can be an island that is literally curated and run by an intelligence agent who's bringing in prominent celebrities and politicians and even scientists from all over the world to this place where they're having sex with underage girls and we all know about it and then the guy gets killed and then oh he just hung himself oh he hung himself and then you get a Michael badden who's a famous autopsy doctor says no these these injuries are inconsistent with hanging and they're very consistent with someone being strangled in the position that he's choked on.

[1995] It's not where someone has ligature marks.

[1996] All the things that point to the fact that he was murdered.

[1997] And months later, like, Anyway.

[1998] Hey.

[1999] 24 -hour new psycho.

[2000] Donald Trump's a bad person.

[2001] We need to get rid of them.

[2002] Keeps moving.

[2003] And meanwhile, Galane, she doesn't go to, she doesn't even go to trial until October.

[2004] Yeah.

[2005] Is she even arrested?

[2006] Where is she?

[2007] Where is that lady?

[2008] Is this the story that went away?

[2009] No, it's so, it's so weird.

[2010] and how it just all gets like she was in a house in new hampshire waiting magically disappears by herself chopping wood just waiting like what are you doing like they arrested her in a house in new hampshire she bought a house like in the woods she thought she could just be out there didn't even change her hairstyle oh wow how about when she was on she they took pictures of her at in and out reading a book about uh cia agents who have been killed oh my god remember that you ever seen that She had a photo shoot at In -N -Out in L .A. Yeah, there was a photo shoot where she was still on the loose after Jeffrey Epstein was killed where she was like sending messages to people.

[2011] So here she is, like clearly posing and the book, powerful in -and -out commercial, by the way, made people hungry.

[2012] It was posed so you could see the book.

[2013] Yeah, it was posed so you could see the book and the book was about CIA agents who've been killed.

[2014] Where is, does there?

[2015] You can see the like the book spine on one of his pictures.

[2016] Yeah, one of the pictures.

[2017] There's many pictures.

[2018] Yeah, I didn't know if it was actually more than I thought there was.

[2019] Yeah, they did a lot of sleuthing to figure out, like there's terrible photoshopping done on the photo.

[2020] Is there?

[2021] Yeah, that's like that.

[2022] So this photo was taken at a time that like there's this good boys movie was a Seth Rogen movie.

[2023] If she was there, that would have been like this week and they looked in that company said they never actually had that poster there.

[2024] But that looks like it was actually there.

[2025] So there's a lot of confusion around why this even happened.

[2026] Wow.

[2027] So where's, what is that in the lower right hand corner?

[2028] Is that showing what the book is where the arrows are pointing?

[2029] That's right there.

[2030] Someone went to that in and out.

[2031] Oh, that's where she sat?

[2032] Where's the book?

[2033] I'm trying to find it.

[2034] It's so messed up.

[2035] It's so crazy.

[2036] I mean, I had to stop watching the documentary because it's so, it's, it's as dark as it gets.

[2037] How about when Trump, when they asked Trump about it?

[2038] He's like, I wish her well?

[2039] I wish her good luck.

[2040] It's very unfortunate?

[2041] What are you talking about?

[2042] Are you saying you wish the the lady who's accused of sex trafficking underage girls?

[2043] You wish her luck?

[2044] All these guys are, all of them, that like level of being is so gross.

[2045] I feel like everyone in that fucking circle is disgusting.

[2046] Well, and I think back then you could be disgusting and there wasn't any consequences for it.

[2047] You know, when you think of what it must have been like to be a politician like, in the Kennedy days right I just open lane no cars on the road it does anything yeah he tells you to stop no you could do whatever you wanted getting your dick sucked in the in the pool yeah you could do that while people were watching yeah no one cared yeah now it's crazy like the press would not talk about his affairs that they all knew yeah it was like a how amazing yeah What a strange shifting of attitudes.

[2048] And how did that ever exist in the first place?

[2049] If you're the press and literally your whole job is to tell stories and you've got this crazy story that you keep it under wraps.

[2050] I see it all the time though.

[2051] I see it all the time.

[2052] But the Kennedy thing wasn't even a good cover.

[2053] Remember when Marilyn Monroe sang at his birthday party?

[2054] Yeah, but every time someone gets me -toed, everyone's like, we knew about it.

[2055] And whatever, and I don't know if it's just industries protect their own or if they're, like, everyone in the industry is like, I kind of knew that was coming.

[2056] You know, you'll hear like these stories of, uh, I just feel like it might be like politicians.

[2057] They protect each other.

[2058] I feel like in every industry, whenever somebody gets outed, there's, there's, um, some sense of like, uh, maybe.

[2059] Maybe.

[2060] Well, when the Kennedy thing was, uh, was, happening what's really fascinating is if you apply that same logic and thought to his assassination no wonder why there's so many conspiracy theories yeah because if if the intelligence community really decided to whack him and you don't think they could have got away with it yeah he's fucking people left and right that documented documented that's the problem I have not just him a lot of people back then yeah MLK there was a whole uh thing written about him the other day yeah but this this idea that they could have never gotten away with his murder because people would have talked.

[2061] Like, no, people didn't talk about anything back then.

[2062] Of course they could have got away with his murder.

[2063] And especially if you think they're going to kill you.

[2064] And then if you go and look at how many people who are witnesses who did wind up dying in really suspicious ways, it's fucking bonkers.

[2065] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2066] People that were there for the Kennedy assassination that wound up dying, it's nuts.

[2067] Yeah.

[2068] It's nuts how many of them like committed suicide, parked their car in front of a train like all that kind of shit yeah yeah yeah i i think that there's the whole world was dark back then it was dark i think it's always been dark yeah but i mean i think like this whole sex trafficking thing this seedy underbelly of the world thing i think back then it was way worse and i think there's no way of exposing it well yeah they all just got whacked i think yeah and i think it was like a normal it was probably like when you think of things like skull and bones and all these weird little clubs and these secret societies.

[2069] Remember when Kennedy, did you ever hear that Kennedy speech about secret societies?

[2070] No. Never heard it?

[2071] Oh my God.

[2072] He talked about how secret societies are repugnant.

[2073] This is before he was murdered.

[2074] You know, Kennedy was like vehemently against like the CIA and the NSA and all this.

[2075] And he made this public speech about secret societies.

[2076] What does I say?

[2077] The president and the press addressed for the American newspaper.

[2078] You can play that.

[2079] If you can play it, because it's, it's really powerful to hear his voice and to know that this guy, yes, well, listen, there's a lot of reasons to think that he was probably killed by the intelligence community.

[2080] Oh, that's us.

[2081] We talked about it.

[2082] It's already up.

[2083] You can go watch episode 1400 with Tony Hinchcliffe.

[2084] Yeah.

[2085] I had, it's a golden pony.

[2086] It's a, it's a bizarre.

[2087] Here, listen to it though.

[2088] It's very bizarre.

[2089] It's a very bizarre.

[2090] It's a very bizarre.

[2091] statement because why would you make it today well ladies and gentlemen the very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies to secret oaths and to secret proceedings we decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.

[2092] Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.

[2093] Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.

[2094] And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security, will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

[2095] Dude.

[2096] He was trying to warn us.

[2097] He's trying to warn us about exactly what's happening.

[2098] Patriot Act.

[2099] Patriot Act 2.

[2100] Edward Snowden, hiding in Russia.

[2101] Trying to warn us.

[2102] He really was.

[2103] Yeah.

[2104] He really was.

[2105] We didn't listen.

[2106] They killed him instead.

[2107] We did listen.

[2108] We know now to shut our fucking mouth.

[2109] We're both going to be dead in 24 hours.

[2110] Well, then you'd get away with more shit back then.

[2111] just like everybody else.

[2112] Yeah, I mean, it's a weird time because some of the stuff, you know, I have very conflicting feelings about some of the stuff that comes out.

[2113] I think it's good that a lot of lights being shined on it.

[2114] I also hate that people don't get due process.

[2115] So there's like a very strange, we live in a very strange time for this where great, more stuff is being revealed, although we seem to forget the stuff that's actually proven like Epstein in five minutes and then there's stuff that's not you know it people are being destroyed and have no no access to due process or anything and even and there's no way to defend themselves well the stunning thing about the Epstein thing is that the mainstream media has let it go yeah completely you would think that and they barely even really covered it it it wasn't even something they had to it's almost like they covered it like there was a cursory mention yeah like they had to they had to mention it otherwise they would be complicit right yeah yeah it's a it's a weird that seems like it should be a way bigger deal and be much more covered and investigated and thank god for those amazing reporters down in florida who did all that investigative journalism the woman i can't remember her name but she she's really responsible for like staying on that beat and i just i i i think this is why i feel um even in l .a during the rise it's like the local journalism was amazing they were doing great work they were on the ground they were interviewing people in real time and part of the reason i see so i hate all the division and all of the it's like that death of local journalism which has contributed to so much of just nobody really knows anything well that's i've been real forgiving of people writing clickbady articles yeah and one of the reason why i tell people like journalists are fighting for their life right now yeah yeah they're very important to me it's very important to me that there's people that are willing to get the word out and willing to explain what's happening and some of them are forced to write some bullshit articles with clickbait titles because they have to stay alive because no one is buying newspapers.

[2116] No, and it's not generally, it's usually a calling.

[2117] I think my true journalists, they're usually called to do it.

[2118] They can't let go of a story.

[2119] They want to find my biggest, again, this is another weird issue, place where we're in is, I call it journalism, and it's activism, masking is journalism.

[2120] And that is where I feel like the press is this is where they're losing their credibility because they're not being honest.

[2121] Right, there's no one, well, there are some, but there's very few who are unbiased.

[2122] Well, they are.

[2123] They're mostly working in local journalism at rags that are being canceled, bought out, bought up by bigger things.

[2124] And so you have the people who are kind of, you.

[2125] activists and they're journalists or practicing journalism and that's damaging to all journalists because now you're undermining what your job is to do, which is present facts.

[2126] Yes.

[2127] And present evidence and and present and chase down leads and not have your own opinion about things.

[2128] Have, you know, discover something as more evidence is presented to you and always be checking yourself.

[2129] Well, my hope that through this independent sources will emerge like you're seeing that with some independent political sources like you're seeing like whether it's the jimmy door show or kyle kalinsky or rising on the hill all these people that are not beholden to any one party that are talking about politics i'm hoping we're going to see that with everything yeah and that these these people with these biased perceptions and you know journalism as you call it which is a great word that they they're going to because of their own faults open the door for independent people that are not connected with these things that do have a calling but that recognize that there's a real you're hindered if you're connected to some machine I think this is why people are so confused right now and lost and I hear this from these letters I'm getting letters from the politically homeless and they're saying what happens a lot is they'll get red -pilled by the mainstream media they recognize kind of I think Malice talks a lot about this and just recognizing the idea of the cathedral yeah he's great brilliant and just the idea the cathedral that isn't his idea and I can't remember who he always attributes it to and realizing there's a narrative and there's an agenda that's being pushed and once they open their eyes and see that they'll it's there's not much of a stop on the way to and now why isn't Biden fighting against pedo would you know there's like you're just like suddenly you're like mainlining you've gone from taking a red pill to like snorting them and mainlining it and now your QAnon because I'll hear these people who start out very reasonable like oh the left got crazy I got a little disillusioned I started going down the rabbit hole and then there's really not much because people don't know what to believe all of the confusion oh you can protest you can't protest you can't wear masks you can't wear masks that there's no credibility every system and this is generally in societies when you see this kind of breakdown of society is when people lose faith in the people who are governing them, the experts.

[2130] You know, you have epidemiologists who are like, racism is the real virus.

[2131] Like, that's not the way viruses work.

[2132] You know, when you're saying these things to, as a scientist, how are you expecting people to take you seriously when they've stopped their fucking lives for you?

[2133] Did you see what the UN's quote was about the pandemic?

[2134] No. That it revealed that the patriarchy is a gigantic problem.

[2135] Yeah.

[2136] The patriarchy.

[2137] They were blaming it on the patriarchy.

[2138] And you have all of these institutions that are falling in line with us.

[2139] So people are, they're stumbling in the wilderness and then they're online.

[2140] And then they're virtue signaling.

[2141] And then they're in these echo chambers.

[2142] And then they're going to war with anybody disagrees.

[2143] And then they're demanding compliance.

[2144] But it's easy to people, the thing that concerns me is if you are a person, you know, I have to check in with myself.

[2145] When I'm like, if I feel like I'm saying, fuck you.

[2146] I'm voting for Trump.

[2147] Like, that is, that is being radicalized.

[2148] You know, that is the process of radicalization happening.

[2149] I understand it.

[2150] It's something that I can.

[2151] It's a lot of people doing it.

[2152] But it's completely emotional.

[2153] If you're like, this guy is.

[2154] For some people, it's not.

[2155] Some people think that it's more dangerous than anything is woke politics.

[2156] Yeah, yeah.

[2157] That's Tim Poole.

[2158] Tim Poole is like, the media's lying to us.

[2159] They're gaslighting us.

[2160] And I think that this whole woke bullshit is more.

[2161] dangerous than anything.

[2162] And he's gone like full MAGA.

[2163] I'm like, wow.

[2164] But see, that that is something that I would check in with myself about.

[2165] Because if you were here and now you're here, I understand.

[2166] And I think this is why we live in one of the most interesting times in American history ever, because there's so much migration, literal migration.

[2167] You sitting here is a perfect example of that.

[2168] And political migration ideological migration my inbox is evidence of this people from the center going left to right people from the right coming left people from the left coming right it's fascinating i mean it's you have to adapt for yes hundreds of years if we have a future you're totally right you totally right it's just a fascinating time in our in our history and i think that people um we have to give each other space to re realign a little bit but what is worrisome to me is in the the absence of anyone to trust.

[2169] So journalism, many journalists have abdicated their role.

[2170] Many politicians are, well, they're all just shit, basically.

[2171] Sending a populist message to the people.

[2172] Like, I don't understand the worship at all.

[2173] In the absence of all of this, where do people turn?

[2174] You know, they're turning to people like you, for instance, because you're willing to have conversations with many different kinds of people across the spectrum so they can maybe, you know, in order to read the news now, I'll see a, I'll see a headline.

[2175] If it confirms my bias, I'm like, I better double check that.

[2176] You know, I immediately am like, okay, double check that shit.

[2177] But that's because you're smart.

[2178] But this is how everyone should consume the news, but I understand why they don't because it's like, okay, and then I read a quote, well, that was, now I have to go listen to the whole, okay, that was completely taken out of contact.

[2179] Now they're citing a study.

[2180] Now I have to go read the fucking study.

[2181] I end up with all the, go to all the source material.

[2182] You have to just go to the source material always.

[2183] But that takes, it'll take me an hour to read one article and figure out like what's actually true in that article.

[2184] No one has that time.

[2185] It's easier to be like, I hate this.

[2186] Exactly.

[2187] Mad.

[2188] Yeah.

[2189] That's what most people do.

[2190] They find something that confirms their bias and then they read only those things that exist in their little echo chamber.

[2191] But you should be seeking things that, you know, push against your bias.

[2192] I was having a conversation with a person, a person, a friend of mine, a person, a person a person experiencing homelessness.

[2193] No, how, how, the unhoused.

[2194] Yeah, no, sounds like a horror movie.

[2195] She was asking me about, um, UFOs.

[2196] And I said, my main problem with UFOs is that I want to believe.

[2197] Yeah.

[2198] My main problem with all this evidence, like it seems real, it seems real, it seems, but the problem is I want to believe.

[2199] Right.

[2200] And whenever I want something to be real, I go, ooh.

[2201] It's probably double check that.

[2202] Yeah, you have to.

[2203] You mind fuck yourself.

[2204] Yeah, yeah.

[2205] That's the right way to, that's how you can avoid making an ass out of yourself online and sharing something that's not real.

[2206] Like pretty much video, I will not share it.

[2207] I see so much video getting shared by people who are independent journalists that is cut weird, it's edited weird, it's not true, you end up.

[2208] And there are, you know, people, everybody on the internet, I always make fun of this on dumpster fire.

[2209] I'm like, everyone's, I hate this new season of Law and Order where there's a murder every day in real time and then the internet is like a sleuth figuring it out they're like breaking it down frame by frame see this like thanks guys like the police on the ground i and detectives probably have this handled thank you for your well sometimes though they do find people like that guy before he did the interview with vice and exposed that he's the one who killed the maga supporter yeah they found him they found him because of a tattoo on his neck and they had identified him people just randos that were like looking at photos.

[2210] Sleuthin online.

[2211] Sleuthin.

[2212] They actually found them.

[2213] No, but I believe that there's some use in that, but it just seems like there's also probably more misinformation that gets spread that way than actual facts.

[2214] Yeah.

[2215] And it's that old quote like the lie spreads faster than the truth, you know, around the world before the truth gets out of bed or whatever.

[2216] A lie will go around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

[2217] That's true.

[2218] It's true.

[2219] And in this kind of environment, and then everybody is, I'll, you know, I've got Russian troll farms and Chinese troll farms.

[2220] Yeah, they have Russia logging in at 9 a .m. Oh my God, it's madness.

[2221] I love it.

[2222] And I don't know where it, where it ends.

[2223] There's no map of the territory at this point.

[2224] But it starts with us.

[2225] That's what I'm saying.

[2226] It starts with the individual.

[2227] It starts with people recognizing that they're biased, learning to consume news in a more intelligent way that's reasonable, checking, fact -checking things.

[2228] And it starts even before that with improving yourself, getting control over who you are.

[2229] Like, think of what you've done, overcoming hypochondria, kicking drugs and alcohol, all the craziness that you've gotten through.

[2230] That's what's led you to be this critical thinker that you are today.

[2231] And this strong person, the problem is we're asking people to be strong when they're not.

[2232] We're asking people who are, they're right now, who they are, is not capable of doing these things we're asking them to do.

[2233] because of all the experiences they've had in their life.

[2234] That's no excuse.

[2235] No, no, no. It is not an excuse, but it is a fact.

[2236] Like who they are is they're so accustomed to behaving and thinking in a certain way.

[2237] It takes a radical shift to rethink this.

[2238] And they can do that.

[2239] They can act in that way and rethink the way they live their life.

[2240] But they have to be severely motivated.

[2241] Right.

[2242] To change is so hard.

[2243] Well, and then there's so much, you know, so say you are.

[2244] So you radically shift your ideology online.

[2245] And I've experienced this just not, in shifting my ideology, just not censoring.

[2246] Then you get swept up with all the likes from, you get, it's reinforced with dopamine of like, oh, if I say this thing, this thing does well.

[2247] And that's, again, asking a lot for people to work against.

[2248] You have to actively be like, okay, now what am I not saying again?

[2249] Because I'm worried I might piss off my new audience who's embraced me. You know, I would ask anybody who's gone from the left to fully to the right, like, what are you not saying now about things that you're noticing on your new team that you've joined?

[2250] This is a weird thing when people do completely as a grown adult shift their ideology.

[2251] I'm always like, oh, did you?

[2252] Oh, did you?

[2253] Or were you always wishy -washy?

[2254] Were you always full of shit?

[2255] You know, and to be rigid one way or the other is just so strange.

[2256] Yeah.

[2257] It's so strange.

[2258] Yeah, I guess I can attribute my shift to paying attention and being thrown into the culture war.

[2259] And I don't even feel like my actual values have changed so much as the culture has changed around me. Most of what I believe about free speech, you know, rights, the right to have jobs and work how you want to, which I push back against all the time in California, what they're doing there.

[2260] And well they had a you know how they had to fight that gig society that maybe five I told you about it the last time I was here they had a fight with it about standup comics they were going to try to include standup comics in the comedy store actually was at the head of that yeah yeah they actually fought and won and got comics reclassified but there was an issue where certain people were not going to get booked because these arenas yeah these venues rather we're going to have to employ them yeah and they're like we can't afford to give you health insurance and you do a fucking stupid one woman show here there's trying to pass some national version of this called the pro act and this is trying to do this the democrats they're already past the house that's so crazy there and it's a essentially would categorize independent contracting and it would put give it the same label that it has in california and that's people like you who write articles for a bunch of different publications you'd have to be an employee of each of or join a union that's what they want it's like you're either going to have to join a union you're You're going to have to work for the government or join a union or go get employed, but people work gigs.

[2261] You know, most people are adults.

[2262] They can understand the cost -benefit analysis that they're making.

[2263] They can say, I might not have great health insurance, but I have the freedom to work as an Uber driver when I want to.

[2264] I can log in when I want to.

[2265] I can clock out.

[2266] I can take an hour break.

[2267] I can do whatever the fuck I want on my time.

[2268] And I understood when I was waitressing that I could have gone and got what.

[2269] worked in a corporation, I could have probably gone and got a job anywhere and had good benefits and I would have had to clock in at a certain time and clock out and probably play the game and not say things that I want to say.

[2270] And I understood that I would have to take a riskier path and I took responsibility for that.

[2271] Now, I think that some of these companies do need to be held accountable in terms of how they treat their workers.

[2272] How much they pay their workers.

[2273] How much they pay their workers.

[2274] And it is true.

[2275] I'm not here to defend Uber because they do, I mean, even just talk to any Uber drivers.

[2276] They've, you know, lowered their rates, and it's harder for them to make money, and it's all, so they're not exactly perfect, but you can't take agency away from people who are choosing to work as a gig person and not maybe join a union or go work at a job.

[2277] And this is why I can't, you know, this is something that people should be calling Biden out on because he's come out many times in support of this.

[2278] Do you know how gross it would be of comedians had a union.

[2279] Disgusting.

[2280] Could you imagine what fuckwits would be in control of that union and how many shitty comics would go to the head of that union?

[2281] Yeah, because they don't have any power or agency in their comedy career.

[2282] Yeah, it would be like a huge HR department.

[2283] It would be the worst comics with the shittiest ideas of what constitutes comedy.

[2284] Yeah.

[2285] And they would probably start censoring people.

[2286] Yeah, all of it is we should be able to work where we won and how, we want that's especially someone like you who writes articles for a bunch of different like all of a sudden you would have to be in a union and pay dues well people so one of the women that i'm friends with had to leave l .A because in many single this and it always hurts the people they say they're trying to help she was a single mom and she had um you can't work you couldn't write more than like 30 articles a month most people who are freelance are writing 30 articles a week if they can you know they're cranking these things out in there and if you are a company, for instance, you now have to employ that person.

[2287] And so companies based in DC, if you're writing for a political, whatever it might be, they were saying, we can't work with you because we would have to fall under the laws of AB5 and either hire you or that's it.

[2288] And we're not going to hire you.

[2289] This is a perfect example of where you can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

[2290] Right.

[2291] And you don't have to agree with, you don't have to like uniformly agree with everything that's on your side.

[2292] And this is, this is one of those.

[2293] This is a conservative viewpoint that I completely agree with.

[2294] Give people freedom.

[2295] Yeah.

[2296] Especially in, with what we do, whether it's a comic or a writer or you do both, but that kind of shit is crazy.

[2297] The idea that you would have to be, like, forcing people to join unions is insane.

[2298] Yeah.

[2299] And if you really, I encourage people to read the pro act bill and to try and figure it off again go to the source material don't just listen to me go research this stuff there's some stuff that i think most people are like okay that's a little reasonable but the problem with these bills is that they try and cram in as much crap as they possibly can and so you there's um it would make it so that you could there's it's just it's very pro -union and i again don't have anything against unions but they shouldn't have all of the power you know You shouldn't be forced to join a union in order to work as a comedian or a freelance writer.

[2300] It hurt so many people.

[2301] I heard sign language, people who do translations.

[2302] It hurt people who work as independent drivers, personal assistants.

[2303] It was an endless, there's a whole website devoted to stories from people from hundreds of different.

[2304] Why did they pass it?

[2305] Because the woman who did is an insane person.

[2306] I mean, I think it's part of the reason that Elon's probably going to bounce out of there, too, because I don't know that he uses, I'm not sure, but I'm not sure that he uses union people in his factories.

[2307] I could be wrong about that, but I know that part of her beef was with Elon and Uber and these big corporations.

[2308] But when you look at who's funding her, which I love doing is following the money of all these people, it's like all the labor unions so she's in the pockets of these people and she she will post something and then people will be in her mentions like please don't do this you're hurting us you're hurting us you're hurting your constituents her name's laurena gonzalez you're hurting and she'll just take her the ability for anybody to reply to her i'm like what kind of fucking representative are you that you are saying i'm helping people your people are like you're hurting us and she's like Mutes all replies.

[2309] Like, you actually don't care about your people.

[2310] You're just posturing and saying that you do.

[2311] And in fact, you're just in the pocket of unions and pushing a bill that most everyone in the state.

[2312] I mean, Uber and Lyft are going to leave California.

[2313] Not like leave, take their headquarters like no Uber or Lyft in California because they couldn't comply with the whole freaking business model of Uber is independent contractors.

[2314] and lift.

[2315] That's the business.

[2316] That is the business model.

[2317] That was the whole plan.

[2318] That's the whole thing, the deal.

[2319] And you're trying to say, no, you need to employ these people.

[2320] What is California going to look like in 10 years?

[2321] Is it going to be Mad Max?

[2322] It feels like Mad Max already a little.

[2323] I mean, with the fires, yeah, it's just, it's so, it's so, it's heartbreaking what's happening to some of the cities.

[2324] It just, I believe that there will be a resurgence.

[2325] I think whenever the city's empty out, are.

[2326] artists move in and weirdos and they're like woohoo opportunity so i i believe in the creative especially in new york it's like people are like new york is dead i'm like it's it's not dead you know that well i hope they're right i hope so too but people still live there in the 70s even though it's violent i think la has more problems than new york does yeah is just one earthquake away from being a dead man's land yeah no i don't want to be there for that because if the earthquake hits you think there's a mass exodus now yeah The mass exodus now is about freedom.

[2327] That's most of it.

[2328] It's about freedom.

[2329] And then the worry about taxes, because they're talking about raising taxes.

[2330] They didn't.

[2331] I think that fell.

[2332] That didn't pass.

[2333] I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that that, even that was too crazy for California.

[2334] Or is that the wealth tax?

[2335] They were thinking about the wealth tax and then, oh, I don't know.

[2336] The wealth tax is something they were going to.

[2337] That died.

[2338] Yeah, that was the most ridiculous proposal of all time.

[2339] Biden's talking about that today, though.

[2340] Is it the same tax, the California tax?

[2341] It said like if you make over 400.

[2342] thousand dollars a year under nothing will change tax the wealth or tax the wealth or over 400 ,000?

[2343] The thing about the California one, Peter Schiff talked about it, it's so, it was so crazy that 10 years ago, if you had left 10 years ago, you'd owe money and then if you leave now from 10 years on, they could get money from you.

[2344] Yeah, that's it.

[2345] So if you leave today, you owe money for 10 more years.

[2346] It's so ridiculous.

[2347] How do you even enforce that?

[2348] You're just criminals.

[2349] You're just stealing.

[2350] You're stealing.

[2351] Yeah, it's shameless.

[2352] stealing and you know the idea Tim Kennedy was on the pot here it is if you make under $400 ,000 a year this is Joe Biden you will not by the way he didn't write this you will not pay a penny more in taxes when I'm president the super wealthy and big corporation will finally pay their fair share and will invest the money in working families we're going to reward work not wealth no you're not no here's the thing that drives me crazy where the biggest wealth I believe it's California that has the most wealth inequality in America they have done nothing to help the middle class.

[2353] They've eaten the middle class completely.

[2354] All my friends who are my and my age are a little younger in their 30s, they all had to leave and go buy a house.

[2355] And they left years ago because they're like, it's too expensive for us to try and get ahead and have kids.

[2356] And these mom and pops that are getting destroyed, nobody, they don't give a shit about the middle class or the working class.

[2357] And so every, you're seeing tons of homeless people are unhoused and tons of people who are absolutely loaded.

[2358] I can't where, how am I going to, you know how much money it would take for me to buy a house in L .A. for a down payment in my neighborhood 1 ,300 ,300 square feet.

[2359] $250 ,000.

[2360] Like a quarter of a million, you're looking to me like, that's not that much money.

[2361] It's a lot of money.

[2362] You're like, what's the problem, Bridget?

[2363] It's a lot of money.

[2364] It's a lot of money.

[2365] Yeah.

[2366] It's not.

[2367] I get it.

[2368] There's no...

[2369] I'm detached, but I'm not detached.

[2370] There's...

[2371] I still understand.

[2372] it.

[2373] There's no pathway upward for the middle class in places like New York or LA.

[2374] Don't you think when places get really big, though, it's almost they're unmanageable when they get really big.

[2375] And they're always, when they're really big, they're always run by Democrats.

[2376] Yeah.

[2377] The really big cities are always Democrat run for whatever strange reason.

[2378] I mean, Detroit's a good example of what happened.

[2379] You know, that that was a thriving city.

[2380] Yeah, but that was different because then that was when they shifted the auto industry.

[2381] Yeah.

[2382] And there's no. Detroit was one of the richest cities in the world.

[2383] Yeah.

[2384] They fucked that up.

[2385] Globalization.

[2386] Yeah.

[2387] I mean, that was one of Michael Moore's best movies.

[2388] It was about Flint.

[2389] Oh, yeah.

[2390] You know, about how Flint, Michigan.

[2391] What was it called?

[2392] What was his first movie, the big movie that put him on the map?

[2393] Michael Moore.

[2394] Was it the climate change?

[2395] Roger.

[2396] Roger.

[2397] Roger and me. Roger and me. Yeah.

[2398] It was all about the guy who was the head of GM.

[2399] Is that what it was?

[2400] Where he was trying to contact him to figure out why you're moving jobs out of the city and do you understand what you're doing to this place and that was Ben he was a real populist yeah you know and it's funny how he became a villain when he had this movie criticizing the industry of climate change the industry behind climate change and everybody's like you piece of shit it's like hey i thought i was one of you guys like everyone's canceled i know everyone's canceled it's when we were driving around and our tour guide our little sharpa who was showing us around he he was like showing us all these amazing little old Austin places that are closed because of COVID will probably never open and they've been there since like 1938 and all the and you know we were saying like if I was a philanthropic billionaire I would buy all these little mom and pops and help keep them alive because they're the lifeblood of these cities and they're also just the that's what kills me is like I hate seeing this this coffee shop that's been there since forever closed and there's a Starbucks next door and like they're fine that it just kills that that is where I want Austin is all about these little small independent places yeah at restaurants independent businesses that's one of things that I really love about it yeah it's one of the things that attracted me to this place in the first place I'm hoping that new ones will rise and take their place that's that's the hope is that the ethic of this community we need a more robust middle class you know if I that's what we need to cultivate in California if you want to try and fix California California, that's where you start.

[2401] How do you help people who are living in the $100 ,000 to $600 ,000 a year range or even less, $60 ,000?

[2402] Because you can't, what is their pathway up?

[2403] Especially now.

[2404] Yeah.

[2405] How do you help them?

[2406] Because that's where, that's where, that's what holds the center.

[2407] Bridget, why don't you run for president?

[2408] Thank you.

[2409] You'd be able to nail it.

[2410] A dumps the fire.

[2411] Maybe we should both run.

[2412] No. Yeah.

[2413] No, no. But I'll I'll be your veep.

[2414] No, no, no, I'll support you.

[2415] I don't want to be president.

[2416] I can be your veep.

[2417] Come on, you can do it.

[2418] Come on, you'd be first woman president.

[2419] Kamal Harris would be the first woman president if Joe Biden wins.

[2420] With their timbys?

[2421] Yeah, because he ain't going to make it.

[2422] Yeah, with the Timbalands.

[2423] All right.

[2424] We did three hours.

[2425] We saved, oh, really?

[2426] Yeah, it's already four -class.

[2427] It's past four.

[2428] Sorry, it was awesome.

[2429] I enjoyed it.

[2430] That was a fun one.

[2431] You're going to move here?

[2432] I'm definitely considering it.

[2433] I don't like to be a follower.

[2434] You know, a follower?

[2435] I'm a follower.

[2436] It feels so lame.

[2437] No. Why?

[2438] Because I got here first?

[2439] No, no. Just because I'm generally, everybody's leaving and I'm generally, and I want out.

[2440] Don't be stupid.

[2441] I just don't know where I want to go.

[2442] It's better here.

[2443] Maybe I'll go to Idaho.

[2444] That's right.

[2445] Idaho's good, but they'll get mad if you talk about it.

[2446] Shout out to Boise.

[2447] All right.

[2448] Dumpster Fire, it's available.

[2449] On YouTube, Wackens Welcome is my podcast.

[2450] It's a different vibe than dumpster fire.

[2451] A little more nuanced.

[2452] And your Instagram you don't use And Twitter at Bridget Fetasy You use Twitter a lot I love Twitter Twitter loves you Thank you Bridgett I love you too I love you thank you for having me I enjoy it as always Bye everybody Bye