51 - A Bit of Oblivion

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] It sounds like, um, scary.

[17] Bless the rains down in Africa.

[18] What's that one?

[19] It does.

[20] Wait.

[21] We have it has like seven, seven, um, then he's just beatboxing over it.

[22] Hold on.

[23] How many minutes long is this?

[24] It just fades out with this.

[25] Yeah, put that up on something.

[26] My face is burning.

[27] I just, I love it.

[28] I miss making music.

[29] So it was just like, oh my gosh.

[30] And I'm moving.

[31] Of course he did.

[32] He like heard a thing that we wanted and he's like, not us, but like, like in life.

[33] This is why you're going to fucking rule the world.

[34] I'm very ready.

[35] I'm very confused.

[36] Did you guys talk about this before?

[37] No, I have no idea what's going.

[38] But I wish you could see that from my point of view.

[39] How insane that was.

[40] Stephen is great.

[41] Stephen, you've done it.

[42] You did it.

[43] Stephen, you've really done it.

[44] Now, in the breakdown part where you really kind of getting into it, you're really singing.

[45] It was going through your head in that part when you're really, recording it.

[46] I just, like, the samba part and I was like, well, I got to make this an actual cover.

[47] Yeah.

[48] I just kind of vamped on the, I didn't think of inventing new lyrics or anything.

[49] No, but I'm saying like you did, but you really went for an unextended part where you kind of got emotional at the end.

[50] Yeah, it's fun.

[51] I don't know.

[52] I just kind of want to say, you just let it out.

[53] Yeah.

[54] You just let out your feelings.

[55] Well, thank you so much.

[56] I love it.

[57] Thanks, Dan.

[58] All right.

[59] Episode 51.

[60] Played again.

[61] You're going to just make me play it over and over again.

[62] Episode 51, the one they played over and over and over again.

[63] I just want to like verse after verse after verse, or he's just like, I started working for them.

[64] And then there's the, there's the like, yeah, there's like the breakdown where it's like Elvis's meow and it's like breaking it down.

[65] That's good.

[66] You're so red right now, Stephen.

[67] You're the color of your red beanie.

[68] And I love it.

[69] And I love it.

[70] Stephen.

[71] He's so quiet.

[72] This is my favorite murder.

[73] Welcome to my favorite murder And Steven's Steven's reggae podcast Breaking your balls What's up?

[74] Hi.

[75] Hi.

[76] That's Karen.

[77] That's Georgia.

[78] This is my favorite murder.

[79] Do you like murder?

[80] You come to the right place.

[81] Do you not like murder?

[82] Go away.

[83] Give it a try.

[84] Oh, go.

[85] Give it a try.

[86] I mean, who knows?

[87] Yeah, don't go away.

[88] Everybody thinks they don't like murder.

[89] Oh, my God.

[90] Tell you hear a real good story about it Yeah Everyone thinks I hate that one They're like you're creepy like murder And like well I have this really interesting story You're like everyone fucking loves murder People love a good story Like come on man Don't judge us This is just like Stephen's theme song Don't judge it until you get All the way through to the emotional Twice Yeah you should listen to it twice for sure Listen to this podcast twice Please And then stare at us while our face gets red I was listening to the last episode I don't listen to a lot of episodes anymore because it's just like hard but I was listening to the last one just for quality control and I was cleaning the house and I just started I would have my earphones in and Vince was like doing another thing and I just started cracking up so loudly at some point something that we talked about and it's like partly it's funny but it's also like I'm laughing at how like how fun our friendship is and like these things like it's funny to me because I know what's going on.

[91] And he was like, are you okay?

[92] And I had to take out my headphones to me. I'm like, I'm laughing at my own podcast.

[93] Sorry.

[94] Have you ever had the thing where your podcast starts?

[95] Like I never close windows on my phone correctly.

[96] So if I'm listening to our podcast in the car and then I'll walk in somewhere and then like in the grocery store, our podcast will start.

[97] So it's like me and my own podcast standing there trying to press like the harder you touch it, the more it won't go off.

[98] Yeah.

[99] That's happened a couple times.

[100] yeah we've all been pretty embarrassed we're all stupid idiots and it's fine look how far we've come way to go way to go everybody everyone we all we did it together um so this is episode 51 and my bags are packed and I'm ready to go and this is the last episode I mean doesn't matter to anyone like we're just voices it matters to us though it does this is the last episode in the place where we have recorded I was going to say filmed recorded 51 episodes episodes.

[101] Yeah, and it's going to, wherever we do it in your apartment, in your new apartment, is going to have a completely different feel.

[102] It's weird.

[103] And vibe, as opposed to this beautiful seafone green, kind of like retro, um, yeah, situation that we've been in.

[104] It's like cozy and homey.

[105] There's no like hard angles.

[106] Nope.

[107] I don't know what that means, but it's like my apartment that I've been in it.

[108] I can't like normally like you'll do you'll record stuff and you're like my apartment or yours like just go to mine mine's like you'll do it back and forth and you'll go places but this is every single fucking except for live ones that's right have been in this apartment it's always been here thank you for that thank you for opening your home like leaving my house yeah it works out good in that way yeah I get aware and also if we did it at my house it would just be 45 sec every 45 seconds barking well that would then people would make memes of your dog's frank and george barking instead of all this screaming a fucking at all.

[109] Yeah, I don't know.

[110] I wouldn't be as good.

[111] No. Yeah.

[112] Well, it's the end of an era.

[113] It's also 2017, so good.

[114] Like, new things.

[115] It's all about new energies, liminal space, what we've talked about already.

[116] Yeah.

[117] What can come out of being in a totally new spot?

[118] Yeah, vibes are involved, probably.

[119] I bet vibes are totally involved.

[120] I'm like good ones, I hope.

[121] Well, we'll see.

[122] We'll see.

[123] And if not, then we'll move.

[124] Then you have to get a new apartment.

[125] Fine, fair.

[126] Or move back into this apartment.

[127] my god i'm sad i'm gonna miss this place mince proposed me right there shit yeah take a picture before you go it wasn't a great proposal though so it's okay uh should we edit that out snip that poor no he fucking no i'm kidding i mean he yeah no no no he had fucking he had stomach flu he wasn't a great it's fine all right so i cried you weren't in the hot air balloon like you won't wanted to be.

[128] Well, it was basically an hot air balloon, but it was oh my God.

[129] Okay.

[130] Hey, what's, what's, uh, what's crappinan?

[131] What, uh, corner?

[132] Did you watch Menendez Brothers?

[133] No. It's fucked up.

[134] It was good.

[135] Was it?

[136] Yeah, it was just like a, I think an hour long thing about the trial and the murder and stuff.

[137] Some people are saying it was amazing.

[138] Would you use the word amazing?

[139] No, it was like an extended 2020 episode.

[140] What new information was revealed that I wouldn't have known in 19, what was it?

[141] um well none oh but you'd look at it from a new angle and my my angle that i looked at how much i thought was interesting is like they uh the menendez brothers argued that the dad was molesting them right but then went in like this crazy other direction of how the mom was molesting them too and he molest like it got crazy but you could you could kind of tell the little part that was actually true in my mind yeah and the stuff that they just exaggerated from them trying to play on that.

[142] And if they had just gone with the part that was true, which I think maybe the dad was molesting them, but they were also sociopaths, then maybe they wouldn't have gotten such extreme sentences.

[143] That was your theory or did they talk about it?

[144] That's my theory.

[145] Oh, oh.

[146] Did they talk about those wigs at all?

[147] Yeah, I didn't know.

[148] For real?

[149] He had a toupee.

[150] Yeah.

[151] I didn't know that.

[152] And he was so young to have a toupee.

[153] One of the brothers, who they both just look like, they both look like mad magazine characters.

[154] But it was Lyle had the Dupeie, right?

[155] The older brother had Dupeie.

[156] Older brother said he molested the younger brother.

[157] Oh no. In court and apologized.

[158] And when you see their faces when supposedly they're telling the truth, it's so different than when they're lying.

[159] Really?

[160] That's what I like.

[161] I would say watch it just for the testimony alone.

[162] Okay.

[163] It's so interesting to see they seem like such creepy fucking narcissistic.

[164] cystic sociopaths, which I know everyone hates that we, when we use those terms because, but they seem creepy and lying and it's full of shit until there's this one part that could be true.

[165] Oh, okay.

[166] And then it's like...

[167] Like it just resonates.

[168] Yeah.

[169] Where you're looking at it, you're going, I don't think this person is doing the thing he was just doing with that other bullshit.

[170] They're broken all the sudden and then they're back to normal.

[171] And it's like, they're just like lying.

[172] I mean, look, I get, it would make sense because it's one thing like killing your parents so that you can have money is one thing but like machine gunning down your parents or whatever didn't they have some crazy gun yeah and the other thing about that too is that like if they had just done it to their father they might have gotten a pretty lenient sentence if they had said like he was molesting us for years and we were traumatized but they like kind of chase down the mom and everyone was like that part to them was like how could you kill your mother and so they made up this I think they made up the story about the mom molesting them too when really I think they were just pissed off that she never cared or did anything about it right it's just really it's it's I mean this is all made up shit obviously but yeah it's your theory it's all my theory right right but it's based on you've listened to one million podcasts about it and watched a million crime shows about it and uh there was also the thing of how that father Jose was just a big fucking bully and so it was like she was bullied was bullied herself but yeah yeah it's ugly the whole thing is there's definitely no clear lines except for the fact that yeah you just you can't here's the thing that you murder them but then you just go on a fucking spending spree yeah i mean they just didn't do anything right no not at all um i guess i don't like that one because it's just greed i hate the greed based ones there's a lot that i don't of those that i don't like until i watch something a little more interesting about them and then liked them.

[173] And this is one of them were like, I didn't give a shit.

[174] We just happened to catch it.

[175] And then I liked it.

[176] So it must have been produced kind of well.

[177] Yeah.

[178] No, it's done really well.

[179] It was just like, wasn't, you know, one of the like Jean -Beney ones that are like fucking crazy and insane.

[180] Did you see that picture?

[181] My friend Molly just sent out a birthday invitation.

[182] Oh, Molly McAler?

[183] Yes, I got it.

[184] Did you see that fucking picture?

[185] I responded to her.

[186] I was like, I. Our friend Molly, Macklear Malls online.

[187] She just sent, it's a picture of Jean Bonnet and Burke.

[188] It's a birthday invitation.

[189] And it's like, it's not even invitation.

[190] All it says is, hey, I'm going to be here on this day.

[191] I'm turning this age.

[192] But it's, what is it?

[193] Are we blowing up her spot right now?

[194] Yeah, but we're plugging her.

[195] What's her a podcast called, Stephen?

[196] Mother, may I sleep with the podcast?

[197] Right.

[198] She does a podcast about fucking crazy lifetime movies.

[199] It's great.

[200] So we're fucking blowing her up right now.

[201] Yeah, yeah.

[202] No, I'm just saying her birthday party.

[203] Oh, we didn't say where it was.

[204] Anyway, it's a picture of Jean Bonnet and her brother Burke and the eyes are scratched out of Burke and the mouth is scratched out, which looks like, it basically looks like John Bonnet did it, did the scratching.

[205] Right.

[206] Like it was a found photo.

[207] And that's what I assumed it was.

[208] That like someone found that photo in the Ramsey's house.

[209] I really appreciated it.

[210] I appreciated it.

[211] subtlety.

[212] But do you think it was a found photo or do you think someone did that?

[213] That's a photo that's like known.

[214] Known to have been made by not anybody in that house?

[215] Not the scratches.

[216] The photo of it's a de Jambanae unwrapping presence and Burke smiling at the camera.

[217] Right.

[218] Which I've seen before a million times.

[219] So she probably did it herself.

[220] Molly did.

[221] Yeah.

[222] Or she found it online.

[223] But that's not how it actually looked.

[224] Okay.

[225] Because if that's how they found it.

[226] Oh my God.

[227] If you were the cop that found that picture when you just start fucking screaming at the top of your lungs.

[228] I mean, it's so sinister.

[229] Yeah, that's good.

[230] Yeah.

[231] So go to that birthday party.

[232] Here's where it's at, right?

[233] Get your pencil.

[234] Here's her home phone number.

[235] Get your razor blade ready to write down in your arm where this is at.

[236] We were going to talk about people.

[237] So there was someone who made a yellow page's ad for my favorite murder.

[238] Right?

[239] that we both loved and that was it's a w sweet baby angle and it says do you want it and it looks like a real yellow pages ad of Karen and I looking like we're lawyers and it's on our Instagram page and then I don't know if you saw this one Karen but someone else made one and actually put it in the paper so this girl this girl named Sarah her sister she's an editor of a small town paper and they did a review of the play Squeeze My Cans about Scientology and so she was going to write she had to write a story about it and she was going to do a teaser on the front page that she had to do to like be like to go to the to read about this go to page 17 or whatever the fuck and she wrote like to go to page 17 here's what it here's where here's the teaser oh my God it just says you're in a cult call your dad oh my God that's hilarious so sad just randomly.

[240] This one's real.

[241] Yeah.

[242] Because Georgia sent me the picture of the yellow pages ad and goes, look at someone put in their yellow pages.

[243] I thought it was real.

[244] And then I look at it and I couldn't stop laughing because I was like, that's insane.

[245] Who would take the time to do that?

[246] And then like probably 45 seconds later, you're back.

[247] Wait a second.

[248] That's not real.

[249] Like, wait, hold on a second.

[250] But it looks dead on.

[251] It does.

[252] I mean, it looks and it looks like the illustration I really appreciate.

[253] First of all, they made me look good in a blazer, which I never do.

[254] We look.

[255] fucking business cash hot.

[256] Business cash hot.

[257] I have a waste.

[258] It's exciting.

[259] The illustration's very exciting in that way.

[260] But then I was like, fuck, yeah, if someone put this in a yellow page?

[261] I'm down for looking like this in the yellow pages.

[262] It looks like one of those ads of like, do you need a cheap lawyer?

[263] And it says, do you want to?

[264] Stay sexy.

[265] Not get murder.

[266] Get a job.

[267] Buy your own fit.

[268] Stay out of the forest.

[269] Not be a fucking lunatic.

[270] Called Karen and Georgia.

[271] Call now, space is limited.

[272] And it's just like us with our arms cross looking hot as fuck.

[273] But this one's about Scientology.

[274] so the lead is you're in a cult call your dad so good it's not great i love it uh anything else want to talk about the yellow page with new detectives is on amazon i tried watching it it's okay i guess uh sorry what i'm sorry what i'm sorry what it's okay it's okay goodbye goodbye uh it's it's fine it's fine okay new detectives it's on amazon it's not new detective is detective.

[275] Fuck.

[276] Why do we keep coming with that?

[277] But did you see the right one?

[278] I saw a real detective.

[279] It's first person detectives.

[280] Telling about telling their story.

[281] Which, um, do you remember the case you watch?

[282] I watched the first three, the one about the fucking, um, kid and the like dude, like baby killer and little boy killer in Seattle is fucked up a shit.

[283] Yes.

[284] I just, I think, I'm, I just think that the reenactments and all this shit takes so long to tell of the story.

[285] And they kind of like, you see, you see eight minutes of them watching the, like, CCTV footage of the kid running by.

[286] And then you finally see the car.

[287] Like, it's just, just, it could be 30 seconds of that.

[288] And it kind of drives me crazy when it's like, takes forever.

[289] Oh, okay.

[290] Like, there's a lot.

[291] I think, I think, um, reenactments are just a tool to make the episode longer in a lot of shows.

[292] Or to tell the story.

[293] I mean, I like it because it actually tells that story where it's, they're basically trying to do it like, this is my first person experience with solving this case.

[294] And anytime, it's just like you're not your bag.

[295] Because like anytime you're doing a first person thing, you have to be able to cut away to something besides that person telling you that story.

[296] But at the same time, they made the guy look stupid where he was like, he see the kid run by and he's like, okay, that's not him, damn it, and walks away.

[297] And I'm like, check the time on the, on the CCTV footage.

[298] it says 1130 you'd go back to the fucking bank and be like is the time correct on this and then like in 20 minutes later they realize it's not the right time and then they watch a second longer it's not the right time in real time it's that the bank thing it didn't update for like daylight saving so it was a thing that's what I'm saying you should check he would have checked that and he wouldn't have just stopped watching when it was the wrong time he would have still like it's just like a lot of it's a lot of like it's a lot of fucking filler and I don't and it I can't sit through that.

[299] Okay.

[300] I know.

[301] I'll never recommend that too again.

[302] I just can't with reenactment.

[303] Well, yeah, that's not your thing.

[304] Yeah.

[305] No. No. That's actually the one I like the best.

[306] Yeah.

[307] Because that case is fucking crazy.

[308] I'd never heard it before.

[309] I mean, that guy, the way he finds that guy and the way it all goes down is so horrifying.

[310] And he basically catches the guy.

[311] in the act.

[312] It's such a good story.

[313] The stories are super cool.

[314] It's the dramatization.

[315] Yeah.

[316] Yeah.

[317] You don't dig.

[318] Yeah.

[319] You know what I'm saying?

[320] I do.

[321] I do.

[322] Thank you.

[323] Merch Corner, Apology Corner.

[324] Are we good?

[325] Yeah.

[326] What do you have?

[327] Nothing.

[328] Yeah.

[329] I don't either.

[330] I mean, go to My Favorite Murder Shirts .com or My Favorite Murder .com.

[331] Hey, this is exciting.

[332] An all new season of only murders in the bill.

[333] building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[334] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[335] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[336] Who killed Saz?

[337] And were they really after Charles?

[338] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[339] This season, murder hits close to home.

[340] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[341] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[342] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[343] Who knows what will happen once the can.

[344] cameras start to roll.

[345] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, Devine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[346] Only Martyrs in the Building premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[347] Goodbye.

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[368] Goodbye.

[369] But the good news is, this week I wanted to get back.

[370] to the thing I like to do the best, which is retail and I survive.

[371] Yeah.

[372] Which is a first person show that does not use Ray and Ackman.

[373] Yay.

[374] But also, this is one of the ones, as I was writing this up, I realized when we've talked in the past about how I cannot listen to 911 calls.

[375] This is the one time that I've listened to a 911 call that it insanely enhanced the story.

[376] So it wasn't just like some lunatic person screaming in panic and like a horror thing that immediately makes you go, oh my God, everyone's in danger.

[377] It's like the perfect most, the fact that they even have it to run during the story is incredible.

[378] So anyway, I'll just tell you what it was.

[379] This is the attempted murder of Jennifer Holliday and the murder of Anna Franklin.

[380] And it happened in, this is from season two, episode six of ice or I. So anyway, I, if you haven't earned this, I love the show I survived.

[381] It's now in reruns.

[382] I think it's on, they're rerunning it on Lifetime, but you can also get it on something else.

[383] Whatever.

[384] I think they're also on YouTube.

[385] But I like to every once in a while, remember ones that just stuck with me and talk about them.

[386] Because I do love a survivor and I love the first person.

[387] I do love a first person tale of insane horror.

[388] Does it make you like calm down a little bit because you know like whatever bad happens?

[389] Like you can still get back to the person and they're not dead.

[390] They're not fucking dead.

[391] Yeah.

[392] So it's like okay to be into it.

[393] Yes, exactly.

[394] You're not going straight down like we do at the end of an episode sometime where we're just like, oh, great.

[395] And then they got murdered.

[396] Yes, exactly.

[397] This is, no matter what's happening, you're going, you're still looking at the person.

[398] It's like triumphant.

[399] You know that.

[400] Absolutely.

[401] And a lot of the time, because it's, I would say 80 % women telling these stories.

[402] And they're telling you stories where you're like, holy fucking shit.

[403] shit and they're telling you, you know, just fine, telling you the story of this thing that happened that they survived that they've gotten through and they're there to tell you that story.

[404] Yeah, like you're like, I would never get out of a fetal position if this happened to me and they're like, yes, you would.

[405] Yes, you absolutely would.

[406] Fucking deal with it.

[407] And that, because that's life and life goes on and everybody does, like not everybody does this, but the people who experience extreme trauma continue to live and sometimes even flourish afterwards and help other people because So that's why I get super like a weird Christian about it, because I'm just like, let me fucking ring all those bells.

[408] It's motherfuckin' resiliency and shit.

[409] So I like this one, too, because it's fucking exactly like a 70s horror movie.

[410] It is, when you see it and you hear it, and I recommend that you watch it.

[411] Are they at camp?

[412] It's, no. No, but kind of close.

[413] It's like that feel.

[414] So basically it's this.

[415] It's May 25th.

[416] 2005 and Jennifer, sorry, May 29th, 2005, Jennifer Holiday is driving down Highway 69 and near, it's just north of Lufkin, Texas, with her 17 -year -old cousin, Anna Franklin.

[417] They're in an SUV going 70 miles an hour and all of a sudden, there's the fucking loudest bang in the world.

[418] She doesn't even know what happened.

[419] They pull, there's glass and blood everywhere all of a sudden, and they pull over, and her cousin starts screaming, and she looks down, and her left arm has been shot.

[420] She's been shot through the window of her car, and her left arm is almost severed, like, right above the elbow.

[421] Holy fuck.

[422] So her cousin's losing her shit, of course, and she's, and she is an EMT.

[423] Fuck, yeah.

[424] So she goes super calm and is like, pull out your phone, call 911 right now.

[425] You know, basically is like, calm down, stop.

[426] screaming, whatever.

[427] Yeah.

[428] What they don't realize is there was a man who was driving next to them and he was the one who shot at them.

[429] And he pulls over and he walks up to the open driver's side window, reaches in past Jennifer, grabs the phone out of Anna's hand and just tosses it away and he's laughing.

[430] And she says right then she was like, I got it.

[431] real scared and um uh so he basically uh he backs up he's got a shotgun in his hands and they're and they're both just kind of staring at him he like takes a couple steps backwards picks up the shotgun oh my god oh my god and just shoots into the car and jennifer said in in this show she see it's like a tracer where she sees the bullet go by her face Like, it just goes right by the front of her face and shoots Anna in the head and kills her.

[432] Fuck.

[433] Wait, this is the older chick or the younger one?

[434] The younger chick gets shot in the head and killed.

[435] Fuck.

[436] It's her cousin.

[437] Oh, my God.

[438] So then he pulls Jennifer out of the car.

[439] And she's like, what the fuck is going on?

[440] And her arm's almost blown off.

[441] Her arm is, like, hanging off.

[442] And he puts her into his car.

[443] Jesus.

[444] And they start driving up the highway.

[445] this is a fucking Mary Vincent tale all over again it's fucking it's insane but it's also this kind of thing where it's like you can see it if like shot you can see it shot all grainy in like 8 millimeter where you're like what the fuck and it's like when she tells the story it's like the guy's laughing it's stuff where you're like who what state is this or what county Texas it's north of Lufkin Texas I don't know what the county A lot of shit, man. We are in what part of Texas is.

[446] Apparently, it's a big place.

[447] Okay.

[448] So, they're just driving, like, 90 miles an hour, out of town.

[449] They drive and drive.

[450] So now she says, there's no one around.

[451] There's no lights.

[452] There's no houses.

[453] There's no one anywhere.

[454] Oh, my God.

[455] And at one point, he pulls her out of the car.

[456] He pulls over, pulls her out of the car, pulls her into the woods, and rapes her.

[457] Then when he's finally done, and he's, like, ripped all her clothes off and everything.

[458] thing.

[459] He does the thing where he's like, all of a sudden, then he starts crying.

[460] Yeah.

[461] Then he looks at her and goes, oh my God, you're bleeding.

[462] What happened?

[463] What?

[464] And then he starts laughing.

[465] And she realizes, okay, this person is either on drug, like something is seriously fucking wrong with this guy.

[466] And I need to get myself out of here.

[467] So she fucking comes up with this plan.

[468] And this is the part where we're like, this is why you fucking hang in through the commercial and you're like what the fuck well this is so interesting too because like it's not like she's just like I don't know what this guy's capable of she just she knows her cousin is dead back in the fucking car she knows what this dude is capable of there's no like she knows there's no fucking she knows we're in we're in complete emergency mode and something must be done and she sees his weakness that's the thing is it a person acting like that she realizes there could be some play here she could do something about the situation that she's in yeah So what she starts doing, and it's so fucking brilliant, is she starts, she's, she, the way she says it, because she has her Texan accent, she's like, I start rubbing up on him and acting like, I really like him and saying, basically saying, thank you for saving me. And, you know, you're so nice and, like, being flirty and sweetie.

[469] And he immediately reacts and is, like, into it.

[470] So she's basically convinces him.

[471] He didn't attack her.

[472] She's treating him like the hero and saying, I can't believe you saved me from that man. Thank you so much.

[473] Thank you so much.

[474] You're my hero.

[475] And oh, my God, I just want to, can we go back to your house?

[476] What the fuck?

[477] Because she's thinking in her head.

[478] Right now, they're in the middle of fucking nowhere.

[479] There's not a person to be found.

[480] There's not a light.

[481] So at least if he drives her to his house, there will be a phone or there will be at least one other person.

[482] Or a knife she can fucking stab him.

[483] Some fuck something.

[484] Yeah.

[485] Which is brilliant.

[486] Yes.

[487] She's just like, get me out of this spot now.

[488] And also, clearly you're on drugs or something's going on with you.

[489] where you can be manipulated so she fucking goes for it and it works he gets her back into the car and he's like I can drive you to my house but here's the thing don't do don't be bad and don't do what the bad people do because you'll pay and the sand and she's like I won't I promise why would I and she's and she'd be like I'm so grateful to you you've helped me so much and he's like believing what she's saying and then he would like look at her and be like oh my god you're covered in blood and she'd be like I know I need help really badly.

[490] And so she's basically doing this.

[491] They get to his house.

[492] He turns down the road into a cemetery.

[493] Oh, fuck.

[494] I mean, if you fucking wrote this, it'd be like, changed the cemetery part.

[495] That's crazy.

[496] Just go to a house.

[497] They're driving into an old cemetery.

[498] And she's like, shit, dude.

[499] She sit naked, covered in blood, and like, where are we going?

[500] Oh, my God.

[501] They go downhill a little bit, and there's like two trailers on either side and one of them is his.

[502] So they go down into this kind of thing past the cemetery and this is where he lives.

[503] Sounds chill.

[504] So that's where I'm moving.

[505] I didn't tell you that this is my new apartment.

[506] Oh, that's your new spot?

[507] Uh -huh.

[508] Good, good.

[509] Because just for like just to be around.

[510] Shits and gigs, man. Right, right.

[511] Good plan.

[512] So he takes her into the house and he actually lets her use the phone.

[513] No. Yeah.

[514] He's like, she's convinced him it has worked and he now believes that he helped her.

[515] Oh my God.

[516] So here's the fucking 911 call part.

[517] Oh my God.

[518] You have to.

[519] Yes.

[520] It is, you have to watch this episode because...

[521] Can you play it for us?

[522] No, no, dude.

[523] She is so calm.

[524] And she's like, hi.

[525] Yeah, I got shot and this man helped me so much.

[526] He is sitting right here in front of me. And he helped me so much.

[527] And I just, I really need help.

[528] And I need someone to come and help me because, but this man's help.

[529] me and saved me. And the woman's like, ma 'am, did you say you were shot?

[530] And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[531] And I need help.

[532] And so she's doing this thing where the word she's saying, don't match her tone of voice.

[533] And the woman on the other line, it only takes her like three exchanges.

[534] And she's like, what the fuck?

[535] So the woman goes, are you saying you were shot?

[536] She's like, yeah.

[537] And I need help.

[538] And this man helped me so much.

[539] This man right here in front of me. And then she goes, ma 'am, are you not from around here?

[540] And she goes, no, uh, uh, uh, uh.

[541] And he's here so I'm safe with him I'm here with him and I need you to send me an ambulance because I'm bleeding really bad and then she hears the 911 operator someone else says something where it's like that shooting and then she gets back on the phone she said and she the 911 operator I can't remember how it goes exactly but it's basically like she goes the woman says something she goes did you say there's like something about a shooting and she goes she goes uh -huh uh -huh he's here right now and he's helping me so much it's it's that one it's same one uh -huh and she basically is like it's so creepy hearing you say it by the way telling telling her oh my god in this like super pleasant voice giving her these signals without letting on to the crazy man literally sitting in front of her that the shooter is sitting fucking in front of her isn't it crazy that if he were a little less crazy this wouldn't have worked right you know what I mean yes like if whatever angel dust or fucking thing he was on or whatever his deal was.

[542] Right.

[543] But he actually, the way she played it, and when you hear her this 911 call, you understand how it worked because she's not, I'm actually doing too much energy.

[544] She's like, almost kind of like chill like this where it's like, yeah, I just need and uh -huh, uh -huh, yep, that's it, yeah, and doing that fucking thing.

[545] So.

[546] Oh my God, oh my God, oh, my God.

[547] So she says, just seen an ambulance or whatever.

[548] so she can't they can't figure out where she is because it's not like a trace whatever he ends up getting on the phone and they have that nine one one that portion of the nine one call no where he's giving the nine one operator directions to his house how the fuck does he not like how does that happen because he was out of his fucking mind on drugs he was on drugs and drunk oh but i think it's the drugs and maybe something else he had his brain's already broken.

[549] A crazy rap sheet.

[550] He had been in jail a ton of times, lots of fucking domestic violence.

[551] He had gotten into, his girlfriend had left him that night.

[552] Oh my God.

[553] And he got drunk at a bar.

[554] And he said he did like Xanax or Paxlers like one single thing where I'm like, dude, you were on fucking angel dust.

[555] That's a Tuesday for me, man. Yeah.

[556] That's right.

[557] Um, so, so anyway, the part of the recording, he's talking to the operator.

[558] saying how they should get to his house and then going yeah and she's bleeding real bad I mean I got blood all over me too and I saved her and I don't know like you need to get someone here really fast like he's completely been convinced Jesus and she goes well is she doing okay and she's the 911 operator is like sweet as pie you would never know that she's talking to anybody except for the nice man that saved this woman so he says only you can only have an ambulance no cops and she's like no of course not I only want an ambulance.

[559] I just need to get his blood off me and get this thing taken care of.

[560] It was like, okay.

[561] So then he gives her shorts and a shirt to put on so she doesn't have to walk outside naked.

[562] Can you imagine being naked?

[563] Like, naked too.

[564] It's like so vulnerable.

[565] Naked and covered in blood.

[566] Dude.

[567] It is total horror movie.

[568] Yeah.

[569] She goes outside and she says, she's lost so much blood at this point.

[570] And she's in the empty, so she knows.

[571] Yeah.

[572] Like she knows.

[573] And she says she's walking out.

[574] She sees the ambulance.

[575] So she's walking up this hill, trying to get to the ambulance and she's like she goes and i know i've lost so much bud because i can see the trees moving what it was was the fucking swat team in place and she gets like out of range and he is walking outside behind her oh my god because he's like gonna see her to the fucking ambulance and then the second like the second he gets far enough outside the the swat team just fucking goes down he fights them they take him down and they arrest him.

[576] They don't kill him?

[577] That's amazing.

[578] No. They take him down.

[579] That's amazing.

[580] You're not supposed to just go.

[581] Right.

[582] But like, you know, you'd think he'd fight back and...

[583] No, he fought him, but they arrested him.

[584] Good for them.

[585] They arrested him.

[586] And...

[587] Oh, sorry.

[588] So he gets...

[589] I talked my way down off of this part of the document.

[590] He gets two life sentences.

[591] and then added on years for assault and kidnapping.

[592] Oh, it's two life sentences for capital murderer, aggravated assault and kidnapping.

[593] And when that show aired in 2007, she still had over 30 shotgun pellets lodged in her arm, neck, and chest.

[594] It was two years later that she did the show then.

[595] Yes.

[596] That's fucking insane.

[597] Yeah, and she still had, like, shotgun pellets inside her from the shotgun blast that she survived.

[598] Fucking crazy.

[599] She had a son that she...

[600] Since then?

[601] No, no, no. At the time, she was a single mother.

[602] And she said that she was thinking, like, what...

[603] She was positive.

[604] She was going to die in the cemetery house that she ended up at.

[605] Yeah.

[606] And so the fact that when she got on that 911 call, she got to talk to this woman who got her shit, who, like, picked up on the game and fucking did it and because like basically the cops had come up upon Anna's dead body in that car.

[607] Yeah, they knew a situation had happened.

[608] And basically everybody hooked it all together.

[609] It's like best case scenario.

[610] Totally.

[611] For one of those situations.

[612] We're looking for this person.

[613] This girl is calling.

[614] This is what this is.

[615] And then basically at the very end, Jennifer just says, I should have died that night.

[616] Like, it's a miracle of God that I lived.

[617] And I just want to say this.

[618] it's not a fuck god bless god it's not a miracle of god because she was instinctually smart she fucking came up with a plan and she was brave enough to enact it and go for it and make it happen for herself she did it yeah and yes it worked out good best case scenario but it's like that's that's that's that's that's that's a survivor's instinct that she had and she did it for herself i mean yeah yeah that's insane yeah I wonder where she is now.

[619] Like if she gonna, what's she doing now?

[620] Where's her kid?

[621] It's got to be proud of her, right?

[622] Yeah, who yeah.

[623] Fuck, dude.

[624] Pretty good.

[625] It's a good one.

[626] What's her name again?

[627] Her name's Jennifer Holliday.

[628] Okay.

[629] And her cousin who died who was, she was like in her late 20s, but her cousin who died was 17 when it happened, Anna Franklin.

[630] Oh, honey.

[631] I'm sorry.

[632] RIP.

[633] I'm going to type in my password.

[634] What if I read it well?

[635] I typed it in to my computer.

[636] I didn't.

[637] All right.

[638] You ready for mine?

[639] I am.

[640] Mine's a bummer.

[641] Get ready to be bummed.

[642] It's not a survivor story, but there is a positive ending to it.

[643] Something good happens out of it.

[644] Okay.

[645] So, Jesse Tendikas.

[646] He is born April 15th in 1961 in, in Piscataway in New Jersey.

[647] He claims that his mother was promiscuous, a promiscuous alcoholic, had 10 children by seven different men, and that his dad was a violent drinker, and that his dad had sexually abused him and his brother all the time, and that they once saw their dad rape a seven -year -old girl.

[648] What the fuck?

[649] That's what they said, they said.

[650] And that the father tortured and killed pets, and that he once forced this guy, Jesse, and his brothers to eat their pet rabbit.

[651] What?

[652] Yeah.

[653] So in 1979, when this guy, Jesse Tendikos is 18, he persuades two five -year -old girls to go off with him in search of ducks, is what he tells them.

[654] He took them by the hand and leads them towards an embankment.

[655] One of the girls fucking has some horrible feeling and takes off, leaves him with the other girl.

[656] A little five.

[657] five -year -old girl.

[658] Yeah, she's like, fuck this.

[659] I'm going to get help.

[660] But the other girl, they get to the bottom of the hill by the brook, he knocks her down, he pulls her pants down, and right at that moment, the girl who ran away got a neighbor and they run up and fucking find him.

[661] So, Jesse pleads guilty to the attempted aggravated sexual assault.

[662] In exchange for pleading guilty, he gets a suspended sentence as long as he agrees to get with counseling or to get counseling.

[663] uh he doesn't get it oh and he sent for as a as a um punishment is sent for nine months to the middle sex adult correctional center nine months because he said no to fucking counseling yeah so in 1981 he's out and he lures a seven year old girl into the woods don't go in the fucking woods with the promise of firecrackers man and again this girl's with a friend and this friend is like fuck this and takes off on her bike but while that's happening jesse takes the girl into the woods strangles her until he thinks she's dead and while he's running out of the woods the girl who survived had gotten cops and they catch him he pleads guilty to assault and is imprisoned in the adult diagnostic and treatment center in avonel new jersey for 10 years, but he only gets six years.

[664] He's let out after that.

[665] And a therapist says that he thinks that he would eventually so the therapist says that she thinks that he'll eventually commit another sex crime, but she doesn't think he'll commit murder.

[666] So let him fucking go after six years.

[667] So when he leaves this facility, he moves into a town where's the town name?

[668] Okay, he moves into Hamilton Township, New Jersey, into a house with two other sex offenders that he had met at the facility.

[669] What?

[670] Yep.

[671] Their plan or like halfway house style?

[672] Nope.

[673] Their plan.

[674] Dude.

[675] There's no halfway house style in the, it's the, they're out and free.

[676] Yeah, it's the early 90s.

[677] Oh.

[678] There's no halfway house style.

[679] So, um.

[680] It's the early 90s?

[681] I was thinking it was like 70s.

[682] I had that kind of like, oh.

[683] He went in 1981.

[684] He goes in for six or seven years, so he moves out, and so he's living at this time in Hamilton Township, New Jersey.

[685] One of the sex inventors he lived with named Brian Jenin, he had joined the Big Brothers so he could have access to young boys.

[686] So he gets out.

[687] The other one is Joseph Cephali.

[688] He had been charged with carnal abuse and sodomy of a five -year -old girl, and he pled guilty to three counts of impairing the morals of a minor.

[689] what kind of fucking impairing the morals no you're a fucking rapist you're a rapist it's not you're not fucking with the morals man you're like okay so across the street from their house and one house down and the street I saw it on a video it's a tiny street it's like it's a small neighborhood and this is like a this is a small town you know families it's not a dangerous town.

[690] Right across the street lives the Kanka family.

[691] And part of that family was seven -year -old Megan.

[692] So on July 29th, 1994, Megan walks by his house on the way to a friend's house.

[693] And Jesse tells her, as he had done in other fucking times, that he has an animal to show her.

[694] He says that he has a puppy inside his house and wants to show her.

[695] And she goes with him.

[696] Into his room, he rapes her and sodomizes her and slams her head into the dresser.

[697] He puts plastic bags of her head so she won't bleed in his room and strangles her with a belt.

[698] And then he puts her body into a toy chest and dumps her in the nearby Mercer County Park.

[699] It's fucking horrifying.

[700] So that night, Megan's family's freaking out.

[701] There's a search for her.

[702] Jesse participates in it, handing out flyers.

[703] They go to, the police go door to door.

[704] He tells them he had seen Megan riding her bicycle around 2 .30 in the afternoon.

[705] But he also tells Maureen, Megan's mom, some other weird shit about seeing her before dinner.

[706] His story is weird.

[707] He's like nervous and sweating when he's telling these stories.

[708] Wait, so sorry.

[709] He went to the mom and was like, oh, I'm sorry.

[710] mom was like have you seen them and he was you know he was like he wasn't keeping his own story straight and he was offering too much information and okay and so the next day i guess one of the roommates had like had like had convinced him to confess one of the roommates was like you need to fucking confess fucking in the bowels of hell they decide they're going to get fucking this guy's like i'm fucking clean man you need to get the fuck out of here the next day he goes and confesses to investigators and he leads the police to megan's body um he's he He confesses to some of it, but not all of the aspects of the sexual assault.

[711] And so once the autopsy happened, the police are like, yeah, but here's more information.

[712] And he's like, okay, yeah, I did that too.

[713] Like, he's a fucking creeperoy.

[714] And he knows, like, he's not, he's not crazy and he's not mentally impaired because he knows to keep this certain information from the cops.

[715] He knows that he should put a bag over her head so that blood won't get places because.

[716] Yeah, he's aware of exactly what's growing up.

[717] He's aware, even though he had a really low self, I mean, self -sufferment.

[718] He had a really low IQ, but he knew the things to hide something.

[719] He was smart enough to cover his own fucking tracks.

[720] Right.

[721] So there's, so bloodstained hair, fiber samples, and also Megan had fucking fought back, and there was a bite mark on Jesse's hand because she had fought really hard.

[722] And he said that the reason he killed her was because she fought and he was scared.

[723] She was going to tell her mom, which is utter fucking bullshit.

[724] So his trials in May of 1997.

[725] He's found guilty of purposeful or knowing murder, two counts of felony murder, first degree kidnapping, and four counts of first degree aggravated assaults.

[726] And in June, he sentenced to death and in a statement says, okay, I'm sorry for what I've done to Megan.

[727] I pray for her and her family every day.

[728] I have to live with this and what I've done for the rest of my life.

[729] Yeah, it's very sad for you, Stephen.

[730] I ask you to let me live so I someday can understand and have an understanding why something like this.

[731] this could happen.

[732] Thanks.

[733] Wait, did he say thanks at the end?

[734] He said thanks at the end.

[735] Sorry, wait.

[736] His name is Stephen, right?

[737] No. I'm so sorry.

[738] Are you kidding?

[739] That's so hilarious.

[740] No, I swear, I just said, I just added Steven's that.

[741] Wow.

[742] That's so fucking funny.

[743] So I'm sorry.

[744] No. My full apology.

[745] No, his name is Jesse Tamedic.

[746] Oh, Jesse.

[747] That's right.

[748] Jesse.

[749] Jesse.

[750] I'm so sorry.

[751] Oh, Stephen.

[752] This is not Stephen's episode.

[753] Oh, honey.

[754] So, okay, we know, so we can just do narcissism off the checklist of like, all the sudden, a young girl's rape and murder that he committed is sad for him.

[755] And I hope someday I can understand why this happened, not why I did this even would be better.

[756] Are we right?

[757] Because it's such a mystery.

[758] Why did this happen?

[759] The thing I did.

[760] Yeah.

[761] Fully, with my eyes open, knowing full well what was happening the end.

[762] Right.

[763] And this is when he starts to say that his dad had sexually abused him and was, you know, which is like horrifying if it's true, but it doesn't, I mean, so many people, like this happens to people and they don't go on to do these horrible things.

[764] They became better people.

[765] Or they don't become better people, but they don't fucking molest children.

[766] You know what I mean?

[767] Yes.

[768] Also, I'm thinking, what year with them none does?

[769] Ninety four, 93?

[770] Something like that.

[771] I mean, I'm just wondering if like, because did you say this was 92 before or out?

[772] after.

[773] He went to, he went on trial.

[774] Oh, that was like 97.

[775] I mean, I'm just saying that when those things get into like the popular culture.

[776] Here's what I need to say.

[777] Yeah.

[778] Like, this is working.

[779] Yeah.

[780] That kind of thing.

[781] Yes.

[782] Totally.

[783] That I mean, could have happened.

[784] Just saying that suddenly it's like this start starts to become a rationale.

[785] Yeah.

[786] Like try this.

[787] You should try this defense.

[788] Oh, Stephen.

[789] Oh my God.

[790] Oh my God.

[791] Okay.

[792] Noah's name was Elvis.

[793] So, okay, so here's the positive on this horrifying story.

[794] Yeah, this is fucking rotten.

[795] I know.

[796] So Michelle's parents, Richard and Maureenka, go on a fucking crusade to change the law.

[797] They demand mandatory community notification of sex offenders.

[798] Megan's law.

[799] Megan's law.

[800] This is Megan's law, which I thought we should all know where it came from.

[801] Fuck, yes, we should.

[802] It's important.

[803] This is why it's not just some, I didn't tell those.

[804] horrifying child story, child murder story, which I would do.

[805] I'm not fucking arguing that I'm better than that, but this is an important one.

[806] And I was, I was studying some other murder today to do, and that came up.

[807] And I was like, Jesus, I don't know enough about this.

[808] That's, I love that.

[809] So I studied this.

[810] And I was like, this is my murder.

[811] This is important.

[812] And the next one that I found can come up because it has to do with Megan's Law later.

[813] But let's get to this.

[814] You know what I mean?

[815] So Richard and Maureen, badass motherfuckers, go on a crusade.

[816] to change the law.

[817] They demand mandatory community notification of sex offenders, which is the thing of like when a sex offender moves into your community, they have to notify the whole community that there's a sex offender living there.

[818] They can't live in your schools or daycares, all this shit.

[819] Can't fucking join the big brothers.

[820] No, you motherfuckers.

[821] So they say that the registration, so registration requires, so there was the Jacob Wedderling Act originally, which is, we all another Jacob Wetterling story, which was horrifying, but that only required sex offenders to register with local law enforcement.

[822] So they didn't have to tell anyone about it, except the law enforcement.

[823] And they said that Megan would still be alive if they had known the criminal history of this dude.

[824] So in 1994, New Jersey enacts the law.

[825] And in 96, President Bill Clinton signed a federal Megan's law.

[826] And it's basically amending the Jacob Wetterling Act.

[827] It sets guidelines for the state statutes requiring states to notify the public, although officials could decide how much public notification is necessary based on the level of danger posed by the offender, which is kind of troubling.

[828] So there's three tiers.

[829] And based on those tiers, they have to tell a certain amount of people, which sucks.

[830] And I can tell you what's in each tier if you want, but I don't know if it's even fucking worth it.

[831] Like, do you have to list acts that are super upsetting?

[832] Pretty much.

[833] Yeah.

[834] I mean, it's, it's all.

[835] troubling and it's you know there's this whole argument now about about first amendment rights and all this shit and like you know freedom of it's just like it's an ugly thing where you're just like don't molest children you lose your fucking rights when you are a sex offender yeah you lose your rights and you can't fucking argue your freedom of whatever the shit I mean they want them to do speech right is it like their freedom of privacy yes that's the one yeah which is like well you you don't get to have it you lost that you don't get to have it you don't get to have it no also tell your friends in your fucking apartment you're sharing with all the other sex offenders let them know if that's something they're going to continue to do if they get caught prosecuted for it yeah they're not gonna be able to have that privacy no to be a child rapist anymore sorry it's not like so tier one is someone who's convicted and served less than one year of imprisonment for something like it's for something light like receiving or possessing child porn oh that's tier one Like that's a light fucking thing for them That you don't have to tell everyone Or sexual assault against an adult That involved sexual contact But not completed or attempted sexual assault So they try to fucking rape an adult But didn't fucking go through with it They're not a section They are not scared enough They don't have to come and knock on your door And say I did this Nope So you don't know that there's a rapist Attempted rapist Attempted rapist Because this is the classic difference Between attempted and succeeded Fuck you Well because all it is is it's just going to lead to now they're going to succeed.

[836] Yeah, it's that.

[837] So this time they're going to do it.

[838] They're going to kill them so they can't be identified and brought to trial.

[839] Right?

[840] Because the second tier is when people who have had one conviction get another one.

[841] So they're not going to want that other one.

[842] They're going to kill their fucking victim instead of letting them live.

[843] A bunch of other shits.

[844] Tier three is just like you don't want to fucking meet one of these motherfuckers ever.

[845] Anyways.

[846] And are those the people knocking on your door?

[847] I don't know if that's actually a thing Okay.

[848] I don't know if they do that.

[849] I'm just thinking of that part in the big LaBausque.

[850] Totally.

[851] Hey, Zeus knocks on people's doors immediately gets punched in the face.

[852] That's amazing.

[853] No, I think that the cops or like they have to hand out flyers door to door to door.

[854] But there's this crazy thing too, or you're not allowed to tell anyone about the flyer you got.

[855] So we get fucking, we don't have freedom of speech to tell our friends that there's a fucking child bluster living in your neighborhood.

[856] I don't under, what?

[857] Yeah.

[858] how is that I don't know and let me say that this is from well you can leave it on the coffee table and point to it without saying anything tip tap also this is from a two an episode of 60 60 minutes in 2000 so I could be could have changed by then oh yeah I didn't do my research so okay keep up with every goddamn law they passed sorry I'm a busy woman murdering sex offenders um so yeah so Megan's law, sex offenders, they're required to register with local police when they're moved to a neighborhood.

[859] And it's like so amazing that they, that's a huge change.

[860] It's not, it's not, it's not.

[861] Super important.

[862] Unfortunately, in 2007, the death penalty was abolished in New Jersey.

[863] I don't want to, I'm not trying to start a fucking fight about the death penalty, but I wish this motherfucker were dead.

[864] Um, so, so Jesse, uh, Temendikas just is now having life.

[865] in prison, which is good.

[866] I want him to suffer there, too.

[867] You know what I mean?

[868] I do.

[869] Yeah.

[870] So, everything is fucked.

[871] No, so it's wonderful.

[872] No, it's not.

[873] It's neither.

[874] Look, it's all horrible.

[875] It's all horrible, but yeah, you're right.

[876] At least something good came out of it where it's like, at least there's some progress in some way.

[877] And I'm, you know, her parents, I'm impressed with them.

[878] And it's amazing that they, and, you know, there's an interview with her mom who was just like, I was obsessed.

[879] She made the cops let her go into that room where her daughter died and she can stop thinking about it.

[880] And they finally fucking demolished the house and built a park for Megan.

[881] And the mom's like, I can't go to the park.

[882] Like she's clearly broken.

[883] She was like, I wanted to die.

[884] But, you know, they did something with it and have probably helped an innumerable.

[885] Is that a word?

[886] Enumerable amount of children.

[887] Prevention.

[888] Prevention.

[889] They'll have no idea how many people.

[890] people they say they'll never know yeah so wow awesome i like that one and also learning yeah learning about what that even you hear that phrase and you don't know what it means totally i had no idea yeah oh man how you doing i'm pretty good yourself what do you uh what's the thing you like this week huh is there anything i just like to say sorry to stephen You like the fact that you're saying sorry to Stephen.

[891] No, it's separate.

[892] It's Stephen's Apology Corner.

[893] It just didn't.

[894] It's really, it's really been bad this episode between Stephen and I. Usually it's fake.

[895] I like to do some pretend yelling at the beginning.

[896] We have a whole thing and this.

[897] Stephen crying is it real.

[898] This one looks, way the fuck wrong.

[899] He looks real broken up.

[900] But here's the good part about it.

[901] If you would see him right now, everybody at home, he has this like an elf hat on.

[902] So if he were crying, it's, very it suits him like it looks good and he could use it to cover his face if he it's like a be it's a one of those things called that you had ball of that one yeah yeah um okay well i'll go because i actually wrote it down this time so i wouldn't be like i don't know what i like um i like the show fleabag on amazon what is it i've never heard of it oh my well a you would love it because it's fucking british because it's all reenactments yeah no it's like it's like the show search party that we love yes but it's this fucking british chick who's too pretty for the part she's playing which is like a mess she's a fucking train wreck of a person it's six episodes but it's all like people that you would know from British procedurals and she's a mess but there's this like crazy arc that happens that is like kind of a surprise it's just such a beautiful messy show oh yes and like I don't fucking cry at shows ever I fucking started crying at the end what?

[903] And I I buried my face into vins because I was so embarrassed.

[904] And I was like, he was just kinder.

[905] Well, I got to see that.

[906] It's so, you'll watch them all in one sitting.

[907] I love that.

[908] It's so good.

[909] Everyone, oh, you'll love it.

[910] On, you said Amazon.

[911] It's on Amazon.

[912] It's called Fleabag.

[913] I can't figure out how to watch TV on Amazon.

[914] And I think I have all the things to do it.

[915] I just don't, when I go to do it every time, I'm like, I'm not young.

[916] I can't do this.

[917] Have 21 -year -old Stephen come over.

[918] Well, he hates you now, so he's not going to do it.

[919] And make him at casseroles, all these apologies.

[920] Look, I don't think that you are a child murderer.

[921] I never have.

[922] I don't know why it came out.

[923] I guess I felt bad that I wasn't, didn't receive, I was confused about your goddamn theme song.

[924] I'm sorry, it's funny.

[925] Karen doesn't like surprises.

[926] I just was confused.

[927] One of the, there's a chick, there's a chick who's a main character on the show who who is from like a British procedural detective murder show.

[928] So you'll love it.

[929] You're going to love it.

[930] You're going to recognize a lot of people that I wouldn't recognize.

[931] You will recognize her.

[932] Awesome.

[933] And Brett Gellman randomly is in it.

[934] No way.

[935] You're like, what the fuck is Brett Gellman doing in this?

[936] That's awesome.

[937] It's so weird.

[938] I thought that you were saying her character, she's playing a girl who's from a procedural where I'm like, that's awesome.

[939] No, but you'll love it.

[940] Okay.

[941] It brought me a lot of joy because it gave me feelings again.

[942] Good.

[943] I don't have those.

[944] I like those.

[945] Listen, I am getting it back into feelings for 2017.

[946] Yeah?

[947] Like, even just trying to say, I think I want to have feelings again.

[948] That's a great start.

[949] I know.

[950] I think it's a good idea.

[951] This thing is healthy.

[952] Yeah.

[953] I wanted to, you know what?

[954] I had therapy today and I want to stop, I want to have reality.

[955] again I mean it I know what you mean I think because I think my therapist and I did this like this like what is it called not activity but like Oh like you did a I know what you mean You know what I'm saying What is the word?

[956] Lisa Frank You did a You drew weird unicorns We did this We had a exercise Exercise Thank you I want to get my fucking memory I want to move What if this house It's gone It's black mold this whole time That would be amazing.

[957] The reason.

[958] But then you go to the new house and then you're like, you're like, Bradley Cooper in that movie where you like can see everything and you know everything.

[959] Yeah.

[960] And I'm like, oh, I got to move back because this is really overwhelming.

[961] It's too much.

[962] I like it better the other way.

[963] It's too much for me. Yeah.

[964] We do these, um, we do these exercises where we sit in reality and it makes me realize that I've been disassociating with the world because it's easier to filter in when I think that there's a different plane of existence and this is all fake and virtual reality.

[965] And that every book I read is like more real than life.

[966] Yes.

[967] Are you saying yes like you're scared of me and you think I'm crazy?

[968] No, I am not.

[969] So we do it and it's scary and overwhelming and she's like, how do I say yes in a way that would, because that was the realist yes I've said in a while.

[970] Oh, cool.

[971] Okay.

[972] No, that's all.

[973] Yeah.

[974] And then I hear you 100%.

[975] And then she's like, leave it here though.

[976] Don't go do that because you'll have a fucking panic attack if you do it real life so we can't stay in too long no everybody copes in different ways it's like my therapist said to me one time when I had quit you know don't drink anymore yeah quit doing anything extra quit and then I had quit sugar and I'd quit this and I quit that and she goes well you got to do something because everybody needs a little bit of oblivion and I was like you're fucking really good at your job Michelle everybody needs a bit of oblivion yeah it's not lower back tattoo big butterfly underneath beautiful put it in quotes misspell oblivion everybody needs a little bit of olivian of oblivion we're not aiming for perfection here there's no perfection happening we don't want it we're being we're saying feelings and reality feelings and pieces of reality at times bits and pieces then dip back out and go into your other world because i can't i know i have one okay but mine I haven't seen yet.

[977] I'm so excited for the new FX series starring Tom Hardy called Taboo where he plays a guy that he's like on the Secret Police Force in London in 1814 and it is the preview for it looks insanely beautiful.

[978] It looks like it's shot like it looks super real like my thing my way of disappearing from reality is going into TV shows and going into Jane Austin movies and shit where I'm like, it is no longer this year.

[979] We are now back in the time where you sit in your room and write letters and see if somebody wants to come and sit in the salon with you.

[980] I don't do that with movies.

[981] I do with books because movies I'm like, that guy has a fucking headshot.

[982] That piece of shit, motherfucker.

[983] Like, someone dressed that person in the wardrobe, like assistant is so miserable and like someone threw coffee on her today.

[984] Like, I can't why.

[985] I have to make it up in my head.

[986] You got to pick movies that keep you in.

[987] They don't push you out.

[988] Okay, Fleabag was one of the only ones I've been able to.

[989] because I was able to, the one I just talked about, I was able to identify with her so much.

[990] So it was so real to you that you never left.

[991] Yes.

[992] You stayed in that reality.

[993] That's probably why I liked it and search party is like, it was real.

[994] I can't do that with movies.

[995] So, and that's why when you, when you, when you, as soon as you said Tom Hardy, I was out.

[996] Because everything about that sounds amazing.

[997] But he can't, he will take you out.

[998] But he's a pretty, I thought he was a, I thought Tom Hardy and whatever Hardy were the football player were the same person.

[999] I don't, he's just, Tom Brady?

[1000] Yeah, he's just like a pretty.

[1001] The Tom family?

[1002] Yeah.

[1003] He's just pretty.

[1004] He's insanely pretty.

[1005] In this, though.

[1006] It's like a Justin fucking Timberlake we're playing him.

[1007] It's true.

[1008] But let's talk about body difference.

[1009] Tom Hardy is a beefy.

[1010] He's hearty.

[1011] Slice.

[1012] He is a beefy slice of what?

[1013] He's a heart of mince pie.

[1014] I don't know.

[1015] Something British.

[1016] The man is, I mean, he's played a boxer like 17 different times.

[1017] What?

[1018] A boxer?

[1019] Oh, I thought he's.

[1020] It's something between a, I don't know what you said.

[1021] Yeah, it was a boxer.

[1022] Okay.

[1023] Maybe I put a little slight on that X. Yeah.

[1024] But yeah, no, I'm just saying he's insanely well -built.

[1025] If you ever take a chance and watch peeky blinders.

[1026] I tried.

[1027] Okay.

[1028] I don't like, I told, you know, I don't like attractive, well -built actors.

[1029] I want to, I want to cut them down to size.

[1030] Okay.

[1031] And make them feel like shit about themselves.

[1032] I just, I can't.

[1033] Well, then, yeah, no Tom Hardy vehicle is going to be good for you because the man exudes confidence to the point of insane cockiness.

[1034] I feel bad that everything you're saying.

[1035] I'm like that.

[1036] I don't like that.

[1037] I don't like that.

[1038] It's just one of those episodes.

[1039] But I will say this.

[1040] I mean, who cares.

[1041] There's a lot of things.

[1042] Who cares.

[1043] In this, I think there's all kinds of extra shit happening because, like, everything I see.

[1044] And I've only seen the trailer.

[1045] So what do I know?

[1046] It sounds awesome in every way.

[1047] He's painted.

[1048] Like, he's crawling through mud.

[1049] He's like the fucking.

[1050] Man, that hasn't come out yet.

[1051] Other episode.

[1052] He's doing all these things where I feel like he's fighting the pretty as hard as he possibly can't, which in and of itself might be distracting.

[1053] And maybe he needs to prove himself that he's like, I'm not just a pretty face because like...

[1054] Yeah, I don't know that Tom Hardy's going to be sitting around doubting himself in any way at any fucking time in his life.

[1055] Can you imagine?

[1056] I mean, or maybe he does privately.

[1057] But he just did you see that he made a video and it's Tom Hardy, read you to sleep.

[1058] No?

[1059] Uh -huh.

[1060] See, if you don't hate that.

[1061] I'll try it.

[1062] I like being put to sleep.

[1063] Oh, that's true.

[1064] I think it's just him being insanely sexy.

[1065] But I don't, it's not like he's my type, sexiness -wise.

[1066] It's, what I'm attracted to sexually is 1814 London.

[1067] I want to be there.

[1068] Dude, bring me the plague on a fucking silver platter and tell me about it.

[1069] On a fucking, on Tom Hardy's abs.

[1070] Oh, wait.

[1071] That's Tom Brady.

[1072] Can I do another one?

[1073] Yes.

[1074] Sorry.

[1075] Always.

[1076] This will dig us back out.

[1077] I mean, that was, we were already out.

[1078] Sorry, but I mean, this is just, this is one I've actually experienced.

[1079] Because that thing could be, who knows?

[1080] That's my own trailer.

[1081] That's my review of a trailer.

[1082] Somebody, and I'm sorry, I can't remember your name, a lovely gal on Twitter, retweeted me a Riz Ahmed tweet where he is, did you see that picture?

[1083] Where he, Stephen knows what I'm talking about.

[1084] Riz Ahmed is squatting down by a personalized license plate That says I'm sad And he's throwing up like the peace sign And he just looks kind of like neutral And she just sent it to me It just said hey girl And I was I just wrote back to her and said I've never been happier Oh my God It's the best picture I'm sad and he doesn't look sad at all Also he is doing amazing human humanitarian work to raise money for people in humanitarian work to raise money for people in Syria He fucking tweets about it all the time He has a whole thing where it's like Send me $10 And get five people to send $10 Like he's busting his ass To raise money for Syrian refugees And it just is like Well you're super great actor That was just nominated for a Golden Globe And you look so good in a fucking bow tie And you have a good sense of humor Because you know enough to squat next to the I'm sad license play Oh and you're gonna raise money What's Tom Hardy ever fucking done?

[1085] Is it Tom Hardy?

[1086] What's Tom Hardy ever squatted next to?

[1087] Yeah, nothing.

[1088] Nice, 18, 14.

[1089] Yeah, we'll see what he squats next to in this fucking show.

[1090] Now I'm mad at the show.

[1091] I should have another one.

[1092] Oh, yes.

[1093] What if we start doing 10 each?

[1094] I have the episode of Black Mirror.

[1095] Yeah.

[1096] Called San Juan Juna Perro.

[1097] Didn't see it.

[1098] Oh, my God.

[1099] It's a lesbian love story.

[1100] I shouldn't have said that.

[1101] That's a spoiler.

[1102] It is the most...

[1103] Just go watch San Juaniparo.

[1104] out.

[1105] It's like the most beautiful love story.

[1106] So it's just, I shouldn't have said that.

[1107] It's such a good show.

[1108] Charlie Booker, the guy that writes that show.

[1109] I think, I think he wrote and directed this episode.

[1110] That might be wrong too, but.

[1111] I bet he did.

[1112] It's such a, it's such a, it's not even a black mirror episode.

[1113] It's like such a beautiful story that you don't see very often on, you know, television because it's like, because it's like, spoiler alert, because there's lesbians.

[1114] But it's like, it's just a love story.

[1115] Okay.

[1116] I'll watch it.

[1117] And it's heartbreaking and beautiful.

[1118] I was actually avoiding Black Mirror because when I go to my TV escape, I just want it to be an actual escape.

[1119] So when it's a thing like, look at how your phone is going to murder your eyes.

[1120] It's like, I can't, I don't want to do this right now.

[1121] Don't watch the first episode.

[1122] It is so, it's so good, but it'll make you stop using your phone over again.

[1123] Good luck.

[1124] Good look.

[1125] It's so good.

[1126] Bryce, what's her name?

[1127] Dallas Howard.

[1128] Dallas Howard.

[1129] Is she in it?

[1130] I think that's her unless it's another redhead.

[1131] Jessica Chastain?

[1132] Those are the two that look exactly the same.

[1133] I know.

[1134] It's not Jessica Chastain.

[1135] I think it's Bryce Dallas Howard.

[1136] She's so good.

[1137] It's so good.

[1138] Okay, I'll watch it.

[1139] Okay, I'll watch it.

[1140] What other shows do we want to recommend?

[1141] Let's recommend these shows to you.

[1142] Every single show on TV now.

[1143] We talk about it even though we don't know.

[1144] We don't know.

[1145] We don't know.

[1146] We don't care.

[1147] We don't care.

[1148] Stephen go.

[1149] We don't care.

[1150] Bring us out.

[1151] Cue that fucking song as we go out.

[1152] Thanks for listening, everybody.

[1153] You better fucking cue that song.

[1154] I swear to God.

[1155] Steven, do it.

[1156] Drive your thing.

[1157] Stephen, cue it.

[1158] Thanks for listening.

[1159] We love you guys.

[1160] Thank you for all your interaction with us.

[1161] Your angel babies.

[1162] We're at my favorite murderer.

[1163] I kind of like follow us on shit and like go to things and be a part of our lives.

[1164] Tell us when you're ready.

[1165] Not yet.

[1166] Not yet.

[1167] We love you.

[1168] And stay sexy.

[1169] And don't get murdered.

[1170] Elvis, you want a cookie?

[1171] Yeah, he does.

[1172] Are you want a cookie?

[1173] Elvis.

[1174] You want to answer your mother.

[1175] God damn cookie?

[1176] There we go.

[1177] Play us out.

[1178] Sing along, Karen.

[1179] I can't do it.

[1180] Elvis is singing along.

[1181] Oh, yeah.

[1182] Everyone who's trying to fall asleep listening to this episode is like, fuck you.

[1183] Elvis, do you want a cookie?

[1184] We did it.

[1185] Last episode here.

[1186] Bye.

[1187] Goodbye.

[1188] I should get up my address now.