#156 - Duncan Trussell

[0] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[1] I had a pink somebody on my board yesterday for complaining that I do the commercials before the podcast.

[2] You know, he was bitching about it.

[3] I'm like, stupid fuck.

[4] Go to the special ed room, dummy.

[5] It's ridiculous.

[6] I give you a free podcast, man. I have to do something to monetize this bitch, right?

[7] Yeah.

[8] And bandwidth costs money.

[9] It's really fucking annoying when people give you those, like, those types of complaints are so annoying.

[10] You can't complain about something.

[11] I give you something for two and a half hours for free and I'm just talking about, you know, a product for two minutes.

[12] You're getting commercial, man. Here's a comment I just got on a YouTube video.

[13] Let me see if I remember.

[14] It was really annoying.

[15] These are the fucking insult comments I had the one.

[16] You're selling out, man. They're the ones that start with a compliment, but are, passive aggressive one so this one was i like for 20 minutes i took the paranormal activity you know how paranormal activity shows um the crowd and doesn't show the movie so it's the crowd reacting to paranormal activity right yeah so it's like people are like oh no and i thought well fuck man that's funny i wonder what that would look like if they were reacting to a red lobster commercial so i just put a red lobster commercial on top of them like freaking out over a scary movie and it came out kind of funny, weird.

[17] And so I put that up on my YouTube page and someone left a comment, like, well, this is the only one of your videos that didn't make me laugh.

[18] Why would you even fucking say that?

[19] It's like a compliment, a very nice compliment mixed in with just like a shitty jab.

[20] He gave me a check minus.

[21] Well, you know, what it is is when you get on the internet, you are allowing yourself to interact with anybody, anybody and everybody.

[22] And you're not, you don't, you can't, choose at all.

[23] There's no choosing.

[24] Any random person can just cunt their way into your life.

[25] Just cunt a storm through your fucking life online.

[26] And it's not like a real community.

[27] I mean, you can create a community online with a message board or something like that.

[28] With Twitter lists and shit like that, like who you follow, who you block.

[29] But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, the boundaries between people are kind of separated.

[30] And people can just get at people.

[31] And so YouTube comments are a perfect example of that.

[32] You want to see how the world is going.

[33] You look at the YouTube comments.

[34] If the YouTube comics were like, well, better luck next time.

[35] And he seems like a cool guy.

[36] It wasn't my kind of music, but I could see how some people could like it.

[37] That's a nice way.

[38] Eat shit, drown in a river of AIDS.

[39] You faggot, cunt.

[40] Same thing.

[41] Yeah, I mean, you see those over and over again.

[42] And YouTube doesn't block them.

[43] And it is a fascinating sociological experiment.

[44] Thousands of years from now, if data still exists, if you can still read off of our hard drives, probably you won't be able to.

[45] But whoever finds us in our archaeological future the way we have found ancient Sumer or ancient Rome or any civilization that we've tried to piece together from information from the past, they're going to look at YouTube comments.

[46] And they're going to be like, look at these crazy assholes.

[47] Look at these motherfuckers.

[48] Any video that they go to, what if they went to Rebecca Black?

[49] Here's just a 13, 14 year old girl Talking about hanging out with their friends She had a song She's 14 years old man She's a little girl You're not supposed to like that song If you're a fucking grown person But that song was assaulted By a fucking tsunami of shit Yep Those comments And you look at like her 25 million hits Or whatever the hell she had The comments on her videos are horrendous They're terrifying just fucking raw anger and all it is is just an easy target that's all it is it's just an open easy target what you're supposed to do you're not supposed to go this is fucking bullshit this is what passes for fucking music man no that's not what you're supposed to do what you're supposed to do is go oh this isn't for me because i'm not 14 right not get angry just move on with your life yeah but some people man they just want to get on that youtube and you motherfucker yeah i would you to feel what I feel fucking spooky They just went up There's sweaty There's sweaty fingers pecking down on the keys God I see people like on my message board All the time just get cunty with somebody For no reason I'll just send them to the special ed room Get out Get out Stop that You don't have to do that for no reason You don't have to just get shitty with people As far as I can recall I've never left a shitty fucking comment I just don't think the time to leave a shitty comment It's so silly.

[50] I've never left a single YouTube.

[51] Yeah, I've gotten in a bunch of those.

[52] But what people don't understand about Flame Wars is it's kind of like a competition.

[53] You know, it's sort of like the dozens.

[54] You know, like you play the dozens.

[55] You know, if you don't know what it is, it's like, you know, your mom's so fat.

[56] You know, when she sit down, people think she's a sofa, you know, and you go back and forth.

[57] You insult each other.

[58] You know what I mean?

[59] Like, it's like a big thing like with the brothers.

[60] They love to play the dozens.

[61] That's what it's called.

[62] But that's sort of like what Flame Wars are.

[63] It's like it's kind of fun that we're all.

[64] anonymous, right?

[65] And so you're kind of like just up to your wits.

[66] It's just you and your wits against somebody else and their wits.

[67] And all of a sudden you get in some cunty little argument with someone online and you want to fucking rock them, man. You want to sit back.

[68] Yeah.

[69] I'll be craft my words carefully here.

[70] I'm going to fuck you up, bitch.

[71] And I love watching it as a sport.

[72] I like watching like smart people like go back.

[73] And the really cunty thing to do is to have a sentence and then respond with a big chunk and then another sentence and respond with a big chunk whereas like you're taking a little it's such a bully move where you're taking like a little a sentence a little tiny segment of what someone said and not in the greater context of several paragraphs of writing but just one little sentence and then they'll respond to it with like a river of shit and you go back and forth and back and forth I've done that it's stupid I don't do it anymore occasionally I do but for the most part I just try to be silly with it but in the past man I've gotten involved in like long flame wars with people that went on for days.

[74] Well, I mean, if you think about, like, imagine if YouTube had existed when Buddha incarnated on the planet.

[75] So, like, he could, like, upload his ideas onto YouTube.

[76] It would still have shitty comments.

[77] Like, what a fucking joke, you idiot.

[78] What are you talking about?

[79] Life is suffering.

[80] Go sit under the tree some more.

[81] Faggots.

[82] You know, it would be like that.

[83] Would you, what do you do?

[84] When you hear that, though, I mean, don't you have a little bit of an instinct to say the same thing?

[85] Life is suffering.

[86] Oh, profound one, please.

[87] Please ponder on.

[88] When you're getting your dick sucks, is that suffering?

[89] No, no, no, it's not.

[90] When you're in an awesome movie, is that suffering?

[91] No, no, no. When you're on stage, you're killing, is that suffering?

[92] Wait, but let me ask you this.

[93] Let me ask you this.

[94] Hold on when you're hanging out with your friends.

[95] Is it suffering?

[96] No, it's not.

[97] If you have a nice car and it's comfortable and you get a good stereo and the great song comes on, is that suffering?

[98] No. No, it's not Buddha.

[99] Buddha's life sucked.

[100] Because Buddha didn't have cool shit or cool friends.

[101] No, no, that's wrong.

[102] He had a chipmunk friends, Joe.

[103] He had a whole bunch of chipmunks.

[104] Duggen actually said that's wrong.

[105] Well, no, that's not true.

[106] He knows.

[107] He knows Buddha.

[108] Buddha and I go way back.

[109] But you got to know that.

[110] History is very vague, but my relationship with Buddha supersedes that.

[111] No, but the thing when you're saying Buddha had a shitty life, there's the story of Buddha and Buddha started off as a very wealthy prince.

[112] And there was a problem.

[113] In what year?

[114] I have no idea.

[115] That life sucked.

[116] It doesn't matter.

[117] I don't care if it's 600 BC.

[118] According to the legend, his father, he had like, he had a harem.

[119] He had a harem.

[120] Yes.

[121] That's good.

[122] It's stinky girls with no razors.

[123] That's true.

[124] Everybody's disgusting.

[125] For the time, it was a pretty good.

[126] They're all scratching for food.

[127] For the time, it was a pretty good.

[128] A harem.

[129] Get the fuck out of here.

[130] Listen, man, it was a terrible time to live.

[131] Terrible.

[132] No internet, no cell phones, no refrigerator, no vaccines, no fucking U .S. military presence overseas.

[133] Yeah.

[134] Listen, it's a terrible goddamn time to live.

[135] Fuck Buddha.

[136] This idea is ridiculous.

[137] Life is not suffering.

[138] Life can be the shit.

[139] Do you know the rest of the noble truths?

[140] Oh, well, hold on.

[141] The problem is you're at, you just said noble.

[142] That's what they're called.

[143] That's what they're called.

[144] I know, but you are.

[145] That's the most pretentious thing a human can ever say.

[146] Do you know the noble truths?

[147] That's what they're called.

[148] I understand that, bro.

[149] Bro, I'm just fucking around here.

[150] These are just jokes.

[151] Don't get personal.

[152] He takes it very personal.

[153] No, I don't.

[154] I like the shit on Buddha every now and just to get a ride on a dunker.

[155] No, just because you sound like you don't know what it is.

[156] You could pick on Duncan and he won't even fight back.

[157] But you talk about Buddha.

[158] He'll fucking kick your ass, dude.

[159] But it would be like...

[160] Step up.

[161] You picked on Doug and be like, hey, man, come on.

[162] Why are you being an asshole?

[163] It'd be like me making fun of the UFC and being like, you know, because they're fight, they fight eight rounds.

[164] And then you'd be like, well, no, they don't.

[165] No, there's no rules.

[166] There's no rules.

[167] Something like that, where you're like, it's a clear, like, you clearly have never.

[168] you don't know what it is.

[169] Which is weird because you have Buddha statues all over your house.

[170] Brother, brother, brother, I'm telling jokes, man. I'm not, I don't believe any of this shit I'm saying.

[171] Well, you really think I think Buddha's a loser.

[172] You're hurting Buddha.

[173] Yeah, you're totally gone against a lot of the whole truth of Buddha.

[174] I think you're, you're, you need to really believe in them.

[175] All I'm saying is I wouldn't want to live back then.

[176] I wouldn't either.

[177] I'm not saying that Buddha was wrong when he said life is suffering.

[178] It just sounds a little pretentious.

[179] And if somebody said it today, life is suffering, I would want to probably kick him in the balls.

[180] But there's three other things after that that can kind of make more sense.

[181] Oh, okay.

[182] Go ahead.

[183] So the second one is the cause of suffering is attachment to things staying the way they are.

[184] The idea that things aren't going to change.

[185] So life is suffering.

[186] In other words, you're suffering when you think things don't change.

[187] Oh, so what I did is basically the exact same thing that I criticize people doing on the message boards where they take one line and don't you read the rest of it.

[188] I didn't even listen to your whole sentence.

[189] I took one line and I just attacked Buddha.

[190] And, fucks, I don't really mean any of the things I say.

[191] I say things for the fun of it, okay?

[192] I really do have Buddhas.

[193] I have a fucking Buddha tattoo in my arm.

[194] Come on, man. I'm fascinated by Buddhas.

[195] That's one of the things I first saw during psychedelic experiences.

[196] The golden Buddha made of light.

[197] A golden Buddha in the lotus position.

[198] And then there was like infinite numbers of them around them, like fractals of golden Buddhas in the lotus position.

[199] It was one of the craziest experiences of my life.

[200] It's a cool religion, man, because it's a viral religion, which is very different from a lot of other world religions like Christianity and Islam that kind of come into a place and try to change what's happening in the place to conform to Christianity.

[201] Buddhism goes into a place and, like, analyzes whatever the belief system is in that place and then incorporates that into the philosophy of Buddhism.

[202] So you get these vastly different forms of Buddhism all over the planet, like in a, like to.

[203] Tibetan, if you look at Zen Buddhism, and then you look at Tibetan Buddhism, they couldn't be more different.

[204] Zen Buddhism is very austere.

[205] If you look at a Zen monastery, the walls, I've never been at one.

[206] But the walls are made of rice paper, and like, it's like these guys fucking sitting there meditating for, like, just spinning their whole life meditating.

[207] It's very, very stark.

[208] Then you look at Tibetan Buddhism, and it's like golden Buddhas and prayer wheels and prayer flags.

[209] And it's like this bright, beautiful thing.

[210] And the reason is, is when Buddhism came to Tibet, there was a religion called Bon, B -O -N.

[211] That was the original religion.

[212] And it just took that religion and transformed it so that embodied the noble truce of Buddhism.

[213] Wow.

[214] Isn't that cool?

[215] They just hybrid.

[216] That hybrid.

[217] Yeah, that's what it does.

[218] It infects probably the wrong word, but it gets into a culture and then just the culture.

[219] I think it affects is a great word.

[220] Yeah, that's what it is.

[221] I mean, it's sort of a negative word.

[222] Yeah.

[223] Well, I mean, that is what it is.

[224] kind of it's viral it like gets into the DNA of a thing and then transforms it into uh buddhism that's fascinating it's fascinating it really is you know it i've always wondered like what the boundaries of meditation are because i don't really have the time to be sitting around all day meditating but i always feel like anything like even the isolation tank which is very much like a um a symptom or or rather a method of meditation.

[225] The isolation tank, the more you do it, the better you get at it.

[226] The more relaxed you get when you're inside, the easier it is for you to let go.

[227] The easier it is for you to get to that really crazy deep state.

[228] So I would assume that with meditation, just like with anything, with music or martial arts, the more time you spend at it, the better you get at.

[229] I would wonder, what the fuck can you do with your brain if you have like 10, 12 hours a day?

[230] Because, you know, Eddie Bravo has this friend of his, he went to Egypt with this lady, and she was a kundalini aficionado, like a serious devotee of kundalini yoga.

[231] And this lady did kundalini yoga all fucking day.

[232] And what she said was that it was all about stimulating particular areas of your brain that can produce psychedelic chemicals.

[233] And that what you're trying to do is like open up your.

[234] chakras and you can tune in to higher frequencies of consciousness and that these people say that at the highest levels that these these people are capable of putting themselves into a psychedelic state absolutely naturally so like what you would have to do by taking mushrooms or taking peyote or whatever they can just meditate and get there and they travel in their mind to like distinct different places and the idea is that what they're doing is they're literally changing the form of their mind, if you look at the mind of a person who meditates, you know, a Buddhist monk, you know, a person who meditates 10, 12 hours a day, the way their brain works is different.

[235] Right.

[236] The size of different areas of the brain is different.

[237] When they look at the activity in the mind, it's different than a regular person's brain.

[238] Yeah, I've seen that stuff.

[239] It's fascinating.

[240] So you, I mean, they, what, tuning into a higher, like a higher plane of consciousness, if that is what they're doing, that they're doing, that they're.

[241] very able to do just like I mean what we see in marathon running just like what we see in everything you know like could you run a marathon I couldn't run a fucking marathon could you imagine if you had to run a marathon right now against one of those skinny guys from Africa that runs barefoot fuck you're fucked you're never going to run as fast as you're never going to catch him never going to be able to run 26 miles as fast as him but he can do it and you know what that means you could probably do it too but it doesn't start like that it starts with you run one mile all right you learn to run five miles and you build yourself up to you go can run 26 miles barefoot, but most people can't just do that right from the jump.

[242] That's got to be the same way with meditation, because I know that when I meditate, I can get into a really good state just when I'm alone.

[243] I'm alone in a hotel room.

[244] I'll do like yoga and I'll do and I'll meditate.

[245] I'll go into a certain pattern of breathing and I'll focus and concentrate on my breath.

[246] And when I do that, I can achieve a good perspective.

[247] I can achieve like a good objective look at life.

[248] and I can relieve myself of, you know, any unnecessary concerns and, you know, and I'm, I'm pretty good at that.

[249] But I would imagine that if you really devote yourself to really just concentrating on achieving, like, the, the possibilities of these different states of consciousness, I think that you'd be able to get high.

[250] I did this thing because I studied, I had to do this, I studied religion and psychology in school.

[251] So I got to do an internship at a Zen temple.

[252] And part of the internship is you do this thing called a Sashin, which is where you sit for like three days straight.

[253] It's just staring at this wall for three days straight in the lotus position.

[254] You did this?

[255] And then you do it.

[256] Well, I went to do it.

[257] And I made it through, I think, like 11 hours of med. And I made it through, you sleep like four hours, and then the next day you wake up and immediately you eat.

[258] And then you go right back into meditating.

[259] And so I made it, I don't know, I made it a pathetically small length of time because it was snowing outside and I started thinking about how good a beer would be.

[260] Something about the snowing.

[261] Like, man, I love to drink a beer.

[262] But during the time that I was staring at the wall, I don't know, like six hours in or some certain amount of time in, they start doing this thing called the Heart Sutra.

[263] They start chanting this thing called the Heart Sutra.

[264] And I don't remember the exact way it goes, but it's something like no mind, no body, no life, no death, no beginning, no. It's very psychedelic, it's very drony.

[265] And it's a negation of everything.

[266] No mind, nobody.

[267] Say it again?

[268] This is not an exact rendition, but as I recall, it's like no mind, nobody, no life, no death, no beginning, it's.

[269] And they say this all together?

[270] Yeah, they all start chanting it.

[271] That must be dope.

[272] It's dope.

[273] And you've been staring at a wall for like six.

[274] I don't know though.

[275] Can you look it up?

[276] What is it?

[277] No mind, nobody.

[278] It's not the exact right.

[279] No life, no death.

[280] Let's just try that.

[281] No, yeah.

[282] No mind, nobody, no life, no death.

[283] No mine.

[284] No life.

[285] No mine.

[286] Yeah.

[287] Imagine that.

[288] It's something weird about that, man. What is weird about that?

[289] play look up the heart suture on youtube and play it right there's something we're stoned as fuck but listen but what is weird about like chance man let's do it get ready no my nobody no life no death no my nobody no life no death there's something weird about that dude there's something zony there's something hypnotic about any stupid chant even that you want to hear something super tripping i think you could play it legally it's uh because it's a it's a a chant.

[290] Will you look up the Lotus Sutra on YouTube?

[291] Lotus Sutra?

[292] The Lotus Sutra.

[293] Listen to this one.

[294] This one's so fucking trippy.

[295] Yeah, I mean, what were they trying to do?

[296] They're trying to put themselves into a state of consciousness by humminglet like that.

[297] Yeah, it's got a big, the one I'm looking for.

[298] I'll show you the one, Brian.

[299] Hold on.

[300] Oh, yeah.

[301] That one at the very top, the Lotus Sutra, play the first one with a blue flower right there.

[302] Listen to this.

[303] I love listening to this one.

[304] I'm high.

[305] That was going to be in a minute, that was the 1600s version of beatboxing.

[306] That's crazy, man. I'm scared that if they keep going, Candyman's going ,'s going to come out of the screen.

[307] Yeah, it's cool, man. It's really trippy.

[308] How odd.

[309] Yeah.

[310] It's almost like country music.

[311] Don't me, don't be, don't do you know, but if you listen to some of the, like, how do you say it, Shibobo, the ayahuasca ceremonies, if you listen to the chanting of the people in the Amazon, it sounds very similar to that.

[312] It's the same kind of, like, drony thing that has within it, that feeling of like a twangy, weird, like, I don't know, like something from New Orleans or some of this, bluesy almost.

[313] Very strange.

[314] And how many different people are doing that, you think?

[315] That's not one person, right?

[316] That is, no, that's a group of people for sure.

[317] That's like a congregation.

[318] How many think we're doing that?

[319] Because it's not like, did everybody have the same job?

[320] That's what I'm saying.

[321] Are they all saying the same thing?

[322] Or were they interacting with each other?

[323] People do different harmonies and stuff when you do that chant.

[324] Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[325] Because it doesn't sound like you could.

[326] Like, you know, I don't know.

[327] I mean, maybe, I mean, sure you could.

[328] Like, think of what the noises that Michael Winslow guy makes.

[329] I mean, you probably could do it, but it doesn't seem like, that seems like a couple different things are being said at the same time.

[330] Is that right?

[331] Oh, yeah.

[332] No, no, it's one suture.

[333] They're reading a scripture.

[334] They're reading this thing called the Lotus Suture, which is this whole weird.

[335] So they're all saying the same thing?

[336] They're all making the same noises?

[337] Yeah, I think so, man. It does seem like there's some under...

[338] The girl, the opera girl sounding girl.

[339] Yeah, there was an opera girl that came in.

[340] Maybe we should play it again, because it seemed to me that it was like a couple different sounds that it now they're singing the same thing they're saying it really fast it's but there's like a hum to it that makes you think that there might be something going on in the background but it's not they're hitting a...

[341] Every now and then there's like a little intersection but it's a harmony every now and then though someone will break oh yeah they're starting at different times they're saying the same shit but they're off by like Millicent Yeah, and they're trying to catch up.

[342] This is amazing.

[343] If you listen to this while shirming, this would put you in a bad trip, I think.

[344] No, what are you talking about?

[345] You would get all the knowledge in the universe.

[346] I think that would make just shit go crazy.

[347] It would run over you like a river of diamond -encrusted fish.

[348] That's great.

[349] You wouldn't be able to catch it, though.

[350] It would be so much knowledge, but you wouldn't be able to grasp it.

[351] Yeah, it could fuck your trip up, I guess.

[352] This is Nami -ho -Ring -I -Kyo.

[353] That's where Nami -ho -Reng -I -Kyo comes from.

[354] That's the Nami -ho -Reng -I -Kyo.

[355] comes from the Lotus Sutra.

[356] So when you hear the beginning of it, it's Mioho Rehnakekyo, Obamandani Niki, Sandsri Samai Andur Nikikikish.

[357] Wow.

[358] How did you have memorized all that check?

[359] Well, but I had to chant.

[360] Constant strangulation?

[361] What?

[362] Brian's left in the outside again.

[363] Eight months.

[364] And I don't even have, I don't have the whole thing memorized.

[365] I just have the different, but you have some parts.

[366] I have the up until, there's like, there's two different prayers you do and I have the first one.

[367] I can almost do that completely without the book.

[368] And then the second one, don't have to do the book if I'm they have there's like a what what how did all this get started what I mean you look at like how bizarre all that is and how psychedelic that religion is how the hell that gets started what's the what's the history well that's the fucking question man I mean you've got this this uh the Buddha who according to the story um wanted to be an ascetic like wanted to live with his live with his uh Buddha live with the king the king there was a prophecy He's either going to be a great conqueror.

[369] So this is a real human being absolutely proven by history?

[370] Man, I think so.

[371] I mean, shit.

[372] More, more provable than Jesus or less?

[373] I couldn't answer that.

[374] I have no idea.

[375] I mean, to me, it's like, it's not that much of a consideration because there's so many scriptures that come from it that there's clearly something there.

[376] And it's like, there are a bunch of interpretations.

[377] I don't know.

[378] But the story's cool.

[379] It's not like, in Buddhism, it's different from Christianity.

[380] Christianity, some forms of Christianity, they're like, you must believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God.

[381] You have to believe that for the magic to work.

[382] Buddhism isn't quite like that.

[383] Buddhism is more like test all of this.

[384] Like test it like you would be, if you were buying gold, like you would weigh and measure and test gold because you need to logically understand what this is.

[385] You have to logically, it has to logically make sense to you.

[386] And this is in Buddhism?

[387] That's some forms.

[388] That's not all forms of Buddhism, but some.

[389] Like, there's a great...

[390] You were telling me, I'm sorry, but I interrupted you before.

[391] You were explaining that he lived with the king?

[392] Yeah, he was the prince.

[393] And the king didn't want him to...

[394] Because the prophet said he'll either be the tatha god of the wheel, turner, like this great prophet that he was.

[395] Or he's going to be this conqueror.

[396] Like, he's going to be like a world conqueror.

[397] And so his father was like, well, fuck that.

[398] I don't want him to be a fucking prophet.

[399] I want him to be a world conqueror.

[400] So I'm going to keep him locked up on the grounds of the palace and give him everything he wants, you know, a harem, whatever he wants he can have.

[401] And so the story is he was out with his, like, I don't know, he was out riding around.

[402] He saw three sites, and I don't remember exactly what they were, but I know one was a dying man. One was, or a corpse.

[403] He saw a corpse, a diseased man and an ascetic.

[404] He saw these three things.

[405] And he's like, oh, there's, I'm more, all this pleasure that I'm getting in the palace is temporary.

[406] It's temporary.

[407] It's not going to last.

[408] I'm going to get old.

[409] I'm going to die.

[410] I'm going to get disease.

[411] These are the, this happens to everyone.

[412] There's no escape from this.

[413] It happens to everyone.

[414] So I would, so these pleasures I'm experiencing, I would rather figure out a way to have lasting permanent realization than this temporary transient shit.

[415] So he went and became an aesthetic.

[416] And he, uh, he, like, uh, starved himself to the point of death almost because he was like, he was like, did everything in the extreme.

[417] So there's like statues of like starving Buddha.

[418] Yeah, I've seen those.

[419] You told me about that because you know that I have this thing about collecting Buddhist statues and I've got a couple of Thai Buddhas and shit.

[420] And then you, you told me about this starving Buddha.

[421] I was like, what are you talking about?

[422] You sent me a picture, dude?

[423] I almost thought it was a joke.

[424] No, the skin's tight on his face.

[425] And he's like, he's not eating anything because he's trying to go.

[426] route of the ascetic to um to uh so that he could uh you know have realization and so brian pull one of those pictures up man fucking cool of a starving buddha because they're creepy as fuck man so i'd never had heard about this before oh it's cool man it's how long did he do this in his life what was the i don't know the time does every and everyone has this story this is the story yeah this is it this is it all starts with this store and so then he um so that didn't work out so and then he he uh He ate, and, you know, the ascetics rejected him.

[427] The ascetics rejected him because he was eating.

[428] Look at this, man. Yeah, isn't that?

[429] I sunk into his head.

[430] Holy shit.

[431] Yeah, he got really close to death that way.

[432] I think there's a full body one, Brian, if you back up.

[433] There's some other ones that have, like, full body.

[434] Well, either way, you get the picture.

[435] That's creepy.

[436] Who the fuck would want to keep that in their house?

[437] If you go over a chick's house and she's got that starving booze, in her house fucking run bro but run why would you want to look at that all day I wouldn't oh you see the veins in his ribs it's creepy yeah you don't want to look at it that's barely that's like a cartoon it looks like he's got mashed potatoes in his hand it's like he's about to eat a bowl of mashed potatoes that's come he's an old tranny he's a big bowl starving tranny he's a big giant bowl of cum speaking of come England was fun, huh?

[438] Have a good time in England?

[439] Speaking of coming, England was fun, what happened?

[440] Well, no, England, I'll tell you this.

[441] Oh, no, you came on Joe.

[442] Not really.

[443] I mean, he sort of did.

[444] Well, Joe's fast.

[445] Fast like Buddha.

[446] We went to a strip club for 10 minutes.

[447] Did we go for 10 minutes?

[448] It was right next to this restaurant with this bomb -ass Indian restaurant in Birmingham.

[449] And then we got, I would stop.

[450] in at this place.

[451] It's a disaster.

[452] Well, it's so relevant.

[453] No, it wasn't that.

[454] It's just...

[455] Well, no, there were people coming up to take your picture.

[456] Yeah, but it was just a weirdest strip club ever.

[457] And I'm trying to be as nice as possible.

[458] The best way to say it is, you'd be kind of shocked that those girls are strippers.

[459] I was wondering what you were going to say.

[460] It's the best, you know...

[461] Well, and it seems like there were other vocations that would have been better choices for them.

[462] Yeah, yeah.

[463] It seems like when their guidance counselor was telling them what to do, He shouldn't have said stripper.

[464] Anyway, nice, nice people.

[465] But what was, we couldn't, we know, we couldn't do it.

[466] We got in there.

[467] We thought we were going to be able to sit down and just have a beer and just laugh and giggle, you know, for a little bit and then leave.

[468] But we're getting bombed on.

[469] Yeah, it was pretty sad.

[470] I mean, it wasn't even like, when I go to strip clubs, aside from, like, the fact of, like, seeing hot, naked girls dancing, the other thing I like is the, uh, the, the, the darkness is there.

[471] You know, like, the seedyness.

[472] the seediness and the darkness because it's funny to me because it's all a uh this is a cultural this a result of a specific type of culture it's a it's and like this wouldn't work if people weren't sexually repressed this wouldn't work if people didn't wear clothes there's like so many weird cultural things that have to happen for a strip club to even make sense so when you go into there and you see like you see the the fucking weird relationship between the women who are trying to act dirty and slutty and then the guys who are kind of like feel like they're breaking the rules tonight you know what i mean it's a funny thing because it's like it really is nothing it's like you're looking at a naked girl mounting a fucking pole you're getting a lap dance it's it's just i went to a strip club once with phil hartman phil hartman was uh i wish uh more people got to see what that dude was like without being like mr like clean family you know he was like he was like super concerned about his image but but outside of that he would say like ridiculously dirty shit man he was always telling you to smell his fingers and saying it was claiming it was different people in the cast that he figured oh that's wrong i mean it was like he was ridiculous he was really funny i mean to the point where they would get mad at him you know and he he cracked me up man he would he was a serious blazer phil hartman used to get high every day dude especially after work like he was very professional but after work he would get balased dude get blazed and go out on his boat but i went to a strip club with him once i've never seen a guy who's because he was such a great guy he was so expressive and he was a genuinely like friendly guy and this is a different era okay we're talking about the early 1990s it was like 1995 you know and it was like you know he was there and the girl was dancing in front of him and he was like there was no shame in it at all he was so happy because he was blasted He was so happy.

[473] He was looking at her.

[474] He goes, I'll never forget his face.

[475] Look at him.

[476] Oh, yeah.

[477] That's beautiful.

[478] That's beautiful.

[479] That's cool.

[480] He was like smiling, like, beautiful.

[481] Like, you're beautiful.

[482] Woo.

[483] Like, he was just happy.

[484] It wasn't creepy.

[485] Yeah.

[486] No, that's great.

[487] It was just a guy like looking at a gross vagina and ass going, wow.

[488] Man, I love, I fucking.

[489] It's beautiful.

[490] I love people like that.

[491] I love people.

[492] You would have loved Phil Hartman.

[493] Phil Hart.

[494] That guy, when he died, that hurt.

[495] That sucked.

[496] That was a tough one.

[497] He was a really good guy, man. That was a tough one.

[498] Did I tell you how I found out?

[499] There was a girl who, I think she worked for like one of those tabloid shows.

[500] We had went on on one date, but just, you know, for whatever reason.

[501] It just didn't click.

[502] So I was at home and it was like 8 o 'clock in the morning.

[503] 8 o 'clock in the morning.

[504] The phone rings and it's her and I'm like, what's going on?

[505] Why are you calling me at 8 o 'clock in the morning?

[506] And she's like, you don't know?

[507] I go, I don't know what.

[508] And she goes, I don't want to be the first one to tell you.

[509] I go, well, fucking tell me, what happened?

[510] And then she goes, Phil's dead.

[511] And I go, Phil Hartman?

[512] And she goes, yes.

[513] She goes, it was a murder -suicide.

[514] I went, whoa.

[515] And first of all, I thought he killed her and then killed himself.

[516] You thought that first?

[517] Yeah.

[518] I mean, I mean, you hear murder suicide.

[519] You just automatically think men are the ones who commit violent crimes.

[520] That's how I automatically assume.

[521] I don't think that.

[522] I think crazy bitches are crazy and they would fucking shoot.

[523] I always think I'm going to get shot by when I, girl i'm dating well that's because the dating pool that you're drawing from son i think that's a good instinct yeah the dating pool that you draw from has been peed in i i mean just assume i mean don't you when you hear about a murder suicide you assume that it was the man i know i actually think girl's i really wow man i don't know that's because you're you're so nice and you're not violent at all that's right well i i don't hang out with crazy guys like i i bet because you hang out with fighters a bunch of, you know, jujitsu guys, you're around a different kind of animal than I'm used to.

[524] I'm used to like guys that have game stop cards and stuff.

[525] Jiu -jitsu guys are very friendly, man. You'd be amazed.

[526] First of all, their ego gets squashed real early because you get tapped out a lot.

[527] When you learn jujitsu, especially in the early years, you have to have a healthy ego or you'll never get through being a white belt.

[528] Being a white belt is demeaning.

[529] Men manhandle you.

[530] You know, I remember my first time I was training at Carlson Gracie's on Hawthorne Street.

[531] It was 1996 when I first started doing Jiu -Jitsu.

[532] And there was this kid who was a purple belt, this Brazilian kid, and he fucking would rape me, just crush me. Every time we would roll.

[533] And it drove me nuts because he wasn't any bigger than me. He was my size.

[534] He was my age.

[535] We were the same.

[536] And he would just fucking manhandle me. Dude would just toss me around and strangle me. And I remember thinking like, man, I can't believe that it's so easy for someone to do this to me. And then I knew, like, this guy was only a purple belt.

[537] He wasn't even a black belt.

[538] Like, fuck.

[539] Like, that feeling is not a good feeling.

[540] The feeling of getting your ass kicked like that in the gym is not a good feeling.

[541] But the only way to get good is you got to get used to that.

[542] You got to roll with good guys.

[543] If you don't roll with good guys, you don't know whether or not you can really tap them.

[544] You don't know whether or not your shit only works on people who suck.

[545] You got to get tapped.

[546] You got to get in the beginning.

[547] You got to get strangled all the time.

[548] People are going to throw you around.

[549] they're going to dominate you.

[550] So if you can get through that, usually your ego is really in check.

[551] Jiu -Jitsu guys are some of the friendliest, nicest, most easy -going guys that I've ever been around.

[552] Kick -boxers are a little more edgy.

[553] And one of the reasons is kick -boxers, they don't go full -out in the gym.

[554] They sort of go hard, but there's always like, you're going too hard.

[555] Like, there's a thing that happens in stand -up gyms.

[556] It doesn't happen as much.

[557] It happens occasionally, but not as much in J -J -Jitsu, and that's someone going too hard.

[558] Because in stand -up, it's always an issue, because you're not really fighting.

[559] you have big gloves on the gloves are 16 ounces as opposed to four and when you're or you know eight or 10 if you're kickboxing but when when you're throwing at each other you're supposed to be pulling back a little you know yeah so guys are always like yeah if i didn't pull back i could have fucking knocked your ass out there's some unresolved issues with some guys so they some of them tend to be a bit more dushy it's like the and then the the more like limited their sport is the more insecure they are and the more douchy they like boxers and are more douchy than kickboxers are more dushy and there's all generalizations but but for the most part jujitsu guys and wrestlers seem to be like the most easygoing they they go at it all the time you know you you you blow out all the the stress out of your system and all that you know all that ego shit you're just getting you get tapped all the time you got to accept it yeah man it's spooky when you run into people who have all a shitload of pin up aggression yes i was like the grove and I had parked it wasn't the greatest parking job ever I'll admit it was a shitty parking job and I'm getting in my car and this old man is standing there looking at me he's like why did you park like that and so it's forcing this weird confrontation in a parking lot and the guys you know that thing when you get around someone and like you can feel your like goosebumps happen like they're thinking about hitting you or something yeah like your body's telling you like this is not a good situation that was happening and it's like this old man I'm like fuck this could be that thing where the guy's got a gun and he just this is where it pops this is where the volcano explodes and I end up getting blasted in the grove and they catch it in the background of Mario Lopez's e -show yeah yeah right he's got his show going on and he's interviewing somebody and some old man shoots you that's the worst people fucking die like that all the time people get smoked all the time by people who like have these little volcanic explosions wrong place at the wrong time is a real situation it's a real scenario i i uh the other day i was uh driving and there was a biker in the road and he was like doing one of those things where he was like wobbling like like he i think the guy was drunk or something like and i just like kind of tried to go around him and then i just like did a i didn't do the horn the whole way i did like a you know like where you just barely touch it and it makes a noise you know not even loud at all and he's just like he's like you're like how i never saw that boulder boulder colorado you know why 100 ,000 people that's why that's how you're supposed to live you're not supposed to live like this everybody's all on eggs man you know there's some agro bikers in LA man I saw I saw it remember that guy to assume many people in L .A you're taking a huge risk if you're riding a bike places I mean I support your right to do it and I'm cautious of bikes I try to be cautious but wow I look at them I'm like what a crazy risk you're taking dude I've seen so many hipster bike accidents in Silver Lake we were walking down the sidewalk and you see a you know first it's a vine a record from the thrift store they were at then like they were biking one -handed a couple of books and then you come up to like a fucking hipster having a seizure i've seen a hipster on the sidewalk seizing up as the ambulance came surrounded by old library books and oh my god weird like lace bags of operas no helmet on no helmet no helmet no helmet no helmet crash and And just, but I saw, I saw a fucking minivan just pull into a parking lot and wasn't paying attention and just teabone a biker.

[560] Oh, God.

[561] Just, just fucking dangerous.

[562] So I understand why bikers here are freaking out.

[563] But do you remember that guy at the comedy store?

[564] There was a biker that used to ride up and down sunset and he was this super agro biker fucking ripped.

[565] And I saw a guy yell at him in his car like what you did.

[566] A comic?

[567] No, it was just some bicycler used to hang out.

[568] But he was always there?

[569] Always there.

[570] And he was always pissed.

[571] He was always screaming at traffic.

[572] And I remember, like, some car was like, watch out because he's weaving in and out of traffic.

[573] And the guy just stops his bike.

[574] Because I don't think people realize that with bikers.

[575] We're so used to in cars.

[576] There's this, like, I can get away from you.

[577] I can say something.

[578] A bicycler can weave through traffic at a stoplight and just attack you.

[579] Like, they can get you.

[580] We forget that.

[581] There's no enclosure around them.

[582] We forget that.

[583] Yeah.

[584] People have, like, gotten used to, like, the delay in violence between, cars where you're like well fuck you it's too much work I don't want to get out of the car and fucking get all the way to you you know this guy's an open fucking air and he's like leaving in and out of sunset boulevard traffic and he's deranged and so some idiot says something to him and the guy this is what he's been waiting to happen he like stops his bike turns and looks at the guy and not this you can just hear he meant this he's like I'm gonna put you in the hospital I'm gonna break your fucking jaw is what he said and it was just such venom and evil and anger spewing out of this he didn't he didn't punch the guy yeah you can't be a cunt there's people that want to punch people if you run into it you're a cunt but I mean isn't it interesting that we have this sort of escalated anger that exists inside cars because we don't have to socially interact with each other we don't have to like feel it you know we don't have to feel the repercussions the social repercussions of being a shithead so people just get so elevated in cars.

[585] They pop.

[586] That's why I like SUVs.

[587] I don't think I could ever go back down to like a small little car because you feel even more protected in an SUV because the shit goes down.

[588] You just run the person over and go over and, you know, a couple cars and escape.

[589] You watch too many movies.

[590] What if you get a flat?

[591] The fuck are you talking about?

[592] Yeah, it's weird how you just assume.

[593] But it's funny also the things that people say when they're in cars.

[594] There's a video of Nick Diaz and he had missed a press conference and he was supposed to go and fight George Sanpierre but they pulled him from the fight because he missed a couple of press conferences so he made a video about it and this is a video like a public video and he's in his car and as he's driving making this video he someone won't let him in he's like let me in let me in fuck your mother oh fuck your mother it's like when people say shit like that that's funny man because he wouldn't say fuck your mother if you were right in front of him if you were like some lady but you know but if it's a lady and she's in a car in front of you you don't even have to worry about her and her feelings you can say the our most ruthless shit.

[595] Dude, when I'm driving, I try to chant to relax.

[596] You do?

[597] Yes, I do.

[598] So I'll be chanting when I'm driving.

[599] Like what chant?

[600] Like what chishna?

[601] I'm driving through traffic.

[602] I hate driving.

[603] So I'm chanting to relax.

[604] And inevitably, someone will cut me off.

[605] And in the middle of chanting, I'll be like, you stupid fucking bitch!

[606] You fucking whore!

[607] Just break into full range.

[608] Oh, that's hilarious.

[609] That's what's really there, you know.

[610] Dude, that's a joke.

[611] You should say, Fuck yeah that's hilarious you should talk about that on stage you could you could go far with that That's cool that's cool me I'll do that yeah well that's the unavoidable stress of living in cities There's too much tension so this is not healthy you know we're all we're all uh redlining every day Yeah it's so weird small communities are nicer it's just you you know you deal with or you used to deal with in the age before the internet You dealt with a lot more small -minded people you dealt with a lot more religious wackos if you wanted to live in the middle middle of nowhere it's tough to get away from the really really religious people you know what man i had a speaking of religious people i had a uh real american moment today where i was like man this is a pretty good country i was because they because like you know the uh inception at birth thing that just got overturned you know about this no what is that so i can't can you see where it was man was it i can't remember where it was uh can you look at a favor for me per turt uh tell the logo of you're mike towards you yeah you're talking to the side of the no no no the logo on the front of it There's a thing on the, right here.

[612] See like this?

[613] Yeah.

[614] See, it's around here.

[615] Look at the part where it's written and point that towards your face.

[616] Oh, gotcha.

[617] See it?

[618] Yeah, I got it.

[619] There you go.

[620] Oh, that sounds so much better.

[621] Hello.

[622] There you go.

[623] You're back.

[624] So, yeah, man, it's like personhooded at conception.

[625] I need another water.

[626] Person hooded.

[627] Yeah, I think that's what it's called.

[628] It's called person.

[629] So it's this thing where they want, it basically they want to say that I can't remember the exact words for it.

[630] They have an exact word for it.

[631] I can't remember the term.

[632] Say it again.

[633] Conce.

[634] Like say, look up conception.

[635] personhood at conception or it's the idea is like when you can when concept when conception happens uh when this when when the fucking eggs are on the uterine wall and are fertilized by a sperm that is now a human being that's a person so they were trying to pass that which would make all forms of abortion illegal and maybe even birth control depending on like how you look at it i i so anyway it got overturned the voters overturned and they were thinking it wouldn't get overturned but it was like super religious fundamentalists When you say overturned you mean it passed It didn't pass And they thought it was going to There it is Well isn't overturned means something Person who gets passed and then overturned No I'm sorry It didn't get voted for It didn't make it in It was a measure It didn't get voted for It lost and people were saying it was gonna It was gonna win So it was cool The political system in that one case Worked where they thought it wouldn't Scary shit man Scary shit Well, you know, it's also scary when you think about what abortion really is, you know, that's scary, too.

[636] I mean, you're taking a baby and you're sucking out of your pussy with a vacuum.

[637] It's definitely too expensive.

[638] Well, there's different, you know what, man, there's a lot of versions of abortion that I think are fucking horrible, and I totally am not for.

[639] But there's some, there is definitely cases where it should happen.

[640] And you can't.

[641] Well, not only that.

[642] How about, you know, it's up to the person who's carrying that baby inside of them.

[643] Until the baby's born, it's up to them.

[644] I mean, I think if, you know, if you have an aborted kid that's perfectly healthy and it's like six months old inside your body, like that's kind of crazy.

[645] But I know that people have done that in the past.

[646] I think if it's not for a medical reason, it's not, you know, and I don't know if they, it's those fucking partial birth abortions.

[647] You know about those, right?

[648] Yeah.

[649] They ice pick the fucking brain of the baby.

[650] It's a baby.

[651] I mean, that's, I think that's not, that definitely shouldn't happen.

[652] That's crazy.

[653] That's crazy.

[654] It's almost like, I don't see it.

[655] The monk, you know, I don't see it, I don't see it.

[656] I don't see it.

[657] I know what you're talking about.

[658] La, la, la, la, la. Yeah, just put a blanket on your baby.

[659] Why don't you give birth the thing and cover it in a blanket and ice pick it?

[660] Since it's inside the pussy and you don't see me sticking the ice pick in its head, it's okay.

[661] It's okay.

[662] It was outside and I jabbed it in front of you and then chopped it up into pieces.

[663] You'd be like, you just killed the baby.

[664] Or if it came out for a second and you put it back in, couldn't do it.

[665] Same baby, but if you pulled it out of the vagina and put it back in, you couldn't ice pick it once it'd been in the air.

[666] Yeah.

[667] The rule is once it's been in the air, you can't kill it anymore.

[668] Then it's a person.

[669] Then it's alive.

[670] Yeah, that's fucked up.

[671] That doesn't make sense.

[672] Crazy is it?

[673] Yeah.

[674] It's really strange.

[675] I mean, and, you know, it's, this is a taboo subject.

[676] This is a subject you're supposed to, if you're a rational, open -minded person, you're supposed to just favor choice, you know?

[677] Which I do.

[678] Yeah.

[679] I mean, I don't think any should be, I think it's a real slippery slope.

[680] It's a real slippery slope when someone tells you what you can and can't do with your body, you know?

[681] it seems like you're killing a baby but I guess you should be able to do it you know well these are we've discussed this before it's much easier when it's a small couple cells it's much easier to rationalize but it's on its way to be in a baby you know well it just it depends on where the thing is you know and it depends on it depends on a lot of different things it's like everyone wants to make these sweeping things like one one the two sides of it are it should all the two extreme sides are it should be it should be illegal no matter what even if a rapist impregnated the woman and the baby's going to kill her then she should have that baby and we'll raise the baby up to cry.

[682] Say his name.

[683] Say his name.

[684] Lord Jesus Christ.

[685] We'll raise that rapist baby up to Jesus Christ and he could be the next president.

[686] Now that's he?

[687] Did you see Rick Berry stumble?

[688] What's that?

[689] Did you see Rick Perry stumble?

[690] Yeah, it was awesome.

[691] It was such hilarious.

[692] It was such a fucking, it was uncomfortable to watch that.

[693] It's hilarious.

[694] The thing that you don't know that.

[695] Yeah, he forgot.

[696] You don't know that.

[697] You forgot that.

[698] Yeah.

[699] You're running for president.

[700] How the fuck am we going to let you keep track of the world's military presence?

[701] Isn't he the executioner?

[702] Isn't Rick Perry the one who had like shitloads of people he executed?

[703] Oh, yeah.

[704] In Texas.

[705] In Texas.

[706] Including controversial ones.

[707] He sends him to the friar.

[708] Yeah.

[709] They send a lot of them to the fryer.

[710] Which, you know, listen, if people are cunts, I kind of like that.

[711] I like getting rid of them.

[712] But I don't trust the political system.

[713] That's a problem.

[714] Yeah.

[715] That is it.

[716] Yeah.

[717] That's number one.

[718] But Rick Perry's, you got to break a few eggs to make an omelette kind of guys.

[719] Like, if I got to fucking kill a couple of nice people to fry a bunch of assholes, then, well, that's the price you pay for liberty.

[720] Yeah, he is one of those guys, right?

[721] Yeah, that's what he's like.

[722] He's a, you know, he's a, he's a fucking asshole is what he is, man. I mean, you can't, it's like, that's the main thing.

[723] Until we perfect the system, the death, the government, the legal system, you can't have the death penalty.

[724] you can't it's not part of being a a citizen of the united states does not mean that you've got a risk being falsely imprisoned and executed uh because the legal system isn't perfect that's wrong you can't give the ultimate punishment unless you've really perfected the system yeah until we know like until we know a hundred percent i know there's way better methods now they've ever been before when you include genetics and just yeah i've watched c s i'm pretty sure i'm up to what they're up to but still there's a lot of doubt in some cases and there's also fucking shady cops man there's people who plant evidence they plant evidence it happens all the time you know it's it's not something that's never taken place in the history of man it is most certainly taken place it's been proven so you gotta know your system is fucking airtight and it's just not also what if someone actually reforms while they're in prison what if someone is actually now a good person.

[725] Are you still going to kill him?

[726] Depends on what they did.

[727] If they killed people.

[728] Let's say they killed someone.

[729] I'm biblical on that, man. You're Sharia on that.

[730] Yeah, I'm my friend.

[731] It's Sharia law.

[732] I think there's certain justifiable homicides, you know.

[733] I think I believe in that.

[734] I believe in if someone's trying to kill you.

[735] Like I heard this story.

[736] Who told me the story?

[737] Was it you about the death metal band?

[738] Yeah, you tell me the story.

[739] You told me on the plane.

[740] Yeah, okay.

[741] So here's the story.

[742] there's a perfect example of justifiable homicide there's a documentary on uh norwegian death metal that i saw on netflix so if i fuck up the story for death metal fans out there i apologize i'm going to tell it as best as i can remember it but so the idea is there's it's uh it's about bursam there basically it's about this group you know like how like uh where did punk form did punk in in the uk so punk forms and there's like a group of like punk bands wherever there's an art movement there's a group of artists who are like the core of the movement or even in like music you know like with gangster rap there was NWA there's a bunch of tea yeah right and they all kind of form together so Norway's answer to that is Norwegian death metal where these fucking guys decide that they're going to go hardcore and be like truly truly as dark as you can get terrible people terrible well they like so they started burning down churches they started going to go Going through the countryside, burning down churches, and one of the bands, one of the band members was so depressed because he's into death metal.

[743] And that's all they think about is death, that he goes back to his house, puts a gun in his mouth, and blows his brains out.

[744] And the other guy in the band comes to the house, sees his dead body, takes a picture of his fucking head, and uses that as the cover of their next house.

[745] album yeah it's just fucking hardcore man so they're burning down churches and uh bursum uh bursum um hears that this other guy was this competitor he was uh he had had some history with he heard that this guy was saying yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna kill i'm gonna kill him i'm just gonna kill him and uh he was bragging about how he's gonna kill him so this guy's like oh well okay he wants to kill me he's going to kill me so I'm going to have to kill him first and he got in his car and he drove to where the guy was and he fucking executed the guy he killed him he went to jail is in jail in Norway oh play bursam receiving his life sentence wait to see this can we play that on YouTube I don't know I think so so he gets like not live sentence is this the movie by the way right here I'm noticing this before we play this how would you have me reversed you have my left hand my right hand and my right hand it's freaking me out it's so that they look like we're off walking to each other.

[746] Oh, that's cool.

[747] Oh, that's so bizarre.

[748] Yeah, look up, uh, Burzum received sentence.

[749] And it's really weird because the guy gets like a 27 year sentence in prison because that's all they can give in Norway.

[750] And he gives it?

[751] Yeah, and he gives the creepiest smile.

[752] Whoa.

[753] He just, so how many years have you been in for?

[754] I think, I don't know.

[755] I don't follow a death metal that much.

[756] In Norway, you can only get 27 years.

[757] Something like, something like that.

[758] God, I feel like, I'm sorry, man. You guys, if I know, I feel like I've thrown out some like wonky facts.

[759] I only have a fuzzy understanding of everything.

[760] How did you say the guy's name again?

[761] B -U -R -Z -U -M.

[762] Vlad V -Lod something, Vrygnus or something.

[763] Vlad Vrigness.

[764] Let me see.

[765] Yeah, that's him.

[766] What does it say?

[767] This one?

[768] That's the guy who did it.

[769] That's the guy.

[770] They were burning down churches, man. They were burning down these antique wooden churches.

[771] And someone wanted to kill him.

[772] Yeah.

[773] Frank that shit.

[774] Let me hear that.

[775] I mean, Vikernes, feld, 11 .133, dumbes in staph of in 20, 21 .1.

[776] Wikernest, was done for overlaught drap.

[777] In tillleg, he was done for a tend on Holmenkoenkapelle in Oregon, and for for for search on illsposettlese of Stoartreyskethorn in Bergen.

[778] That's because fucking prison in Norway is like a country club.

[779] is it really oh yeah man it's nice dude they've got nice prisons there really yeah it's not like the u .s prisons they norway's got this really fucking intense ethic about reforming people they really want to reform people their prison systems are based on reformation rather than revenge like in the united states it's like exacting punishment we must punish you we're going to take it out of your hide there they're like look let's let's try to fix them maybe there's a way to make it so that they don't go back into society, you know, as criminal still.

[780] We might be able to just fix them, you know, fix the problem.

[781] Wow.

[782] Because, I mean, the death penalty, you don't have to.

[783] How do you feel about that?

[784] Oh, I think it's genius.

[785] You think it's, does it work?

[786] I don't know.

[787] I don't know.

[788] You know, one of the works, it's great.

[789] You know, when we were in England, do you remember there was a moment where, like, I was talking to the crowd about how polite people are in England?

[790] Like, this is crazy.

[791] Like, this is so different than America.

[792] Yeah.

[793] Like the way people act, the way people behave, the crowds, they're just so different.

[794] And in Norway, they're probably like pretty nice folks for the most part, right?

[795] I mean, if this is what they're trying to do.

[796] Yeah.

[797] You know, I mean, think of how nice and friendly people are in England.

[798] And this is probably, it's probably real similar in Norway.

[799] It's almost like that system has to be in place almost from the get -go.

[800] It's like once you get as rotten as the prison system that we have today to take those, those people and just shove them into country clubs and make everything nice and fun and easy.

[801] Yeah.

[802] But we don't, the thing is, man, we, there's so many other, you know, there's the, what do they call, what did mechanic call?

[803] Do you know what I'm saying?

[804] Does you think that would ever possibly work?

[805] Well, you have to, I think you have to mix in some, uh, pharmaceuticals.

[806] You have to be able to legally give them mushrooms and psychedelics in combination with like really radical therapies to reform them.

[807] And I, we're not allowed to reform the way they're thinking.

[808] Yeah.

[809] And you can't do that now.

[810] You can't do that now.

[811] But they used to.

[812] Timothy Leary was doing with Alpert.

[813] They were doing experiments with reforming prisoners.

[814] And they were going to jails and eat mushrooms with the prisoners.

[815] They would trip with the prisoners.

[816] Whoa.

[817] And it was, you know, it's anyone who's done a psychedelic, if you think about it, you're like, oh, yeah, this could really, this, if anything can fix a person's deep psychic problems, this could do it if it was, if it was done the right way.

[818] you know but because of the what is uh what did mechanic call it the pharmacological inquisition that is happening right now these substances are you can barely even experiment with them and now that they have johns hopkins university is saying oh yeah if you eat mushrooms it'll improve your personality yeah you know so so maybe that's the key maybe you know the the Hopkins study will lead to more studies which will lead to you know treatments for like people who have you know Yeah, but are all these studies when they get, do these studies, all these people that are taking these studies are usually people that need money and probably are depressed anyway.

[819] So they probably made everybody's life happy.

[820] See, the thing is, man, you know what I mean?

[821] Like they don't take like really nice wealthy golfers that are retired on Florida and go, hey, take this study.

[822] They're probably taking like people that need a quick $300.

[823] No, they're very strict about it.

[824] They have like when they do, when they're getting applicants, especially for big studies like these, they have like, that's part of the, when the FDA's approving this shit, that's part, that's a big part of what they go through is like, where are you getting your control group?

[825] Where are you getting your, where you're getting your group from that you're doing the study on?

[826] Because if it was like, you're thinking about the way they do tests for TV shows.

[827] You know, I'm saying that like, is these studies like the same that I used to do in college?

[828] Or are these studies like a bunch of poor people?

[829] Or they're like a mix of these studies?

[830] Because that means a lot.

[831] Who is John Hopkins study when they're studying students?

[832] You can look up.

[833] There's like housewives in the Johns Hopkins studies.

[834] They were like intentionally trying to find people who are like not as familiar with mushrooms or hadn't taken them because but needed a quick three hundred dollars for the study you know what i'm saying that's i'm saying yeah yeah i you know i don't i don't know man and it's a good point because all those people if they take mushrooms their life's going to feel better because they're fucking you know what i don't like i don't like eating mushrooms when i'm fucking broke and if i was in a i don't know that i don't know that i don't know that i don't know that i don't know the income i don't that sucks when you're tripping and you start thinking about bills that's a fucking shitty trip Well, yeah, it depends on how much it weighs on you.

[835] For some people, when you're broke, it's all day.

[836] It weighs on you.

[837] Other people can just kind of brush it off, and they don't seem to give a fuck.

[838] I consider a party drug.

[839] Like, I want to fucking leave this reality.

[840] I want to just get the fuck out of this, you know?

[841] That's what you consider mushrooms.

[842] Yeah.

[843] Yeah, I do too, but along the way, you know, it's always this white -knuckle ride where you're scared as far before you do it.

[844] And then once you do it, you realize, God, why was I ever scared of this?

[845] and then after it's over, you know, you sort of assess whatever you've kind of absorbed, whatever fish you've caught in your golden net.

[846] That's cool, man. Yeah, you catch some fish.

[847] But I never, mushrooms, I've never thought of them as like a part, go out party drug.

[848] I, you know, like, in the days when I would take it, acid was that.

[849] Like, I could go out and, like, have fun or, like, go out into the, I wanted to, I'd go to, like, when I was a kid, you'd go to shopping malls and trip.

[850] Did you ever get to a point where you weren't lucid?

[851] like you couldn't communicate with LSD yeah like we're talking you're out and you're talking to people and you just can't keep it together like you can't communicate with them uh not when I was out I mean I've taken like I took a really powerful dose and tried to have a conversation with the girl I was taking I was taking it with and I sounded like a schizophrenic I was having like word salad because like we had just gone to some Greek festival and I'd watch these little kids dancing and I was like sitting watching these kids like doing some weird Greek traditional dance and it was like it felt like I could see through the concrete and it I felt like there was like it just felt like this beautiful moment where it was like the universe is like you know the this is like watching a flower like it's a traditional weird dance and it's so cool the way the universe can express beauty in that way and so I was like tripping and sitting on the couch and I'm trying to like tell her and universe flower flower beautiful you guys God, yeah?

[852] You know, that kind of word salad, just shit?

[853] Because I was so, like, spellbound and also tripping so hard.

[854] My language sinners have gotten fucked up.

[855] I mean, when you see someone on a heavy dose of acid, they have a problem talking.

[856] They, like, their language gets all mixed up and weird.

[857] My last shrimp thing, I couldn't even walk.

[858] That was the first time I ever did a psyched dog where I couldn't use my feet.

[859] I fell to there.

[860] Wow, that's crazy.

[861] You fell to the ground in the presence of Jesus.

[862] Praise, Lord.

[863] Dude, do you want to hear my podcast prayer?

[864] Yeah, I do.

[865] but I wanted to ask you something and I just forgot what I wanted to ask you.

[866] Oh, oh, did you know that Ted Kaczynski was involved in the Harvard LSD studies?

[867] You told me that.

[868] It's fucking crazy, man. There's a whole documentary about it.

[869] It's not an American one.

[870] It's called The Net.

[871] And it's all about how they caught him and it's all about how he got started.

[872] And he, you know, there's, I think there's certain people that are accusing that study of wrecking his brain, you know, that he was a fairly normal guy.

[873] And once he went through the LSD study, they cooked him.

[874] They cooked his mind.

[875] But they probably gave him crazy high doses.

[876] Well, I don't think they knew back then.

[877] They didn't know.

[878] They were fucking around.

[879] You know, I think there was a lot of experiment there.

[880] No way they knew, man. They were just, who knows?

[881] They had no idea, man. How do they know what the correct dose was?

[882] 32 ounce of acid.

[883] Oh, it could have been, man. It could have been.

[884] They did some nutty shit to people.

[885] People made some big mistakes, man. People made some big mistakes.

[886] They tried to cover it, though.

[887] They tried to cover the fact that Kaczynski was a part of their studies because it's a real embarrassment.

[888] I mean, when I say they, I don't even know who the fuck they are.

[889] I might have made that up.

[890] How about that?

[891] But what did happen is the guy became a professor of mathematics for a few years.

[892] And I think it was University of California, Berkeley.

[893] And he just did it to make enough money to buy this cabin in the woods and plot his attack on technology and people.

[894] He was gone, man. Man, he was gone.

[895] This guy was out alone in the woods.

[896] If you don't know the story of the Unabomber, you know, if you're a young child, if you're, you know, coming to us under the age of 20, you might not even have ever heard of it before.

[897] But it was a guy who was a brilliant, brilliant guy who was targeting all these various people that were involved in technology and fucking blowing their heads off.

[898] He's sending mail bombs.

[899] Yeah.

[900] And he was doing it all from a fucking shack in the middle.

[901] Building mail bomb.

[902] Yeah, remember?

[903] That's what he did.

[904] Wow.

[905] That was like the sketch that they had of him.

[906] him and um he uh was uh really terrorizing people for a long time and they were having a really hard time figuring out who the fuck he was they knew he was a genius but they couldn't figure out who he was and then he released a manifesto and his brother read the manifesto and his brother said he knew he said he knew right away he's like oh this is my crazy ass fucking psycho brother that lost his mind to LSD who's living in the woods in a box he's got like this wooden box that he lives in in the middle of the woods.

[907] He thought that technology was eventually going to take over, and technology was the enemy, and it was a...

[908] Yeah, there's a whole form of, like, anarchy.

[909] There's a guy, Zerzan.

[910] If you look up John Zerzan, I think his name...

[911] I've heard that name before.

[912] Yeah, he's this intense, like, anarchist.

[913] He was, like, anti -technology, which is weird, because he's got a blog, but...

[914] Kaczynski was right in a way, though, right?

[915] I mean, technology is sort of taking over our lives and eventually is going to be a part of, part of our lives permanently, you know, once you start going to, uh, what is, who's that?

[916] Zerzan.

[917] I mean, you, you start getting to the point where people become human hybrids, you know, when we become cyborgs, you know, technology literally will take over.

[918] Yeah, totally, man. I mean, it's like there is, for sure.

[919] I mean, he saw a path and, I mean, it's a horrible thing that he did, but it's fascinating that blowing his brain out on acid would make him reach that conclusion.

[920] I mean, I might be simplifying his position.

[921] It was a factor.

[922] It was probably a factor.

[923] If the guy was already imbalanced or was already off, taking, like, heavy doses of Harvard LSD back in the day, that's not going to help you.

[924] Do you think it's possible to do that to a person who's fine?

[925] Do you think you take, like, you just blast your fucking brain out and you never come back?

[926] Fuck, yeah.

[927] Like, what about MK.

[928] The government experiments with mind control and, like, the idea of creating a psychedelic bomb.

[929] I thought you were talking about Maddie Kersh.

[930] No, that's what it is.

[931] That's Maddie Kirst's nickname.

[932] Yeah, MK Ultra, man. I look that shit up.

[933] Yeah, so a psychedelic bomb, what do you mean?

[934] Like, what were they trying to do?

[935] They were trying, that's, have you ever seen Jacob's Ladder?

[936] Yes, they were trying to do that.

[937] Yeah, it's like that, it's like the idea is they were, they were experimenting with some kind of psychedelic that you could drop on troops like a nerve agent.

[938] And they would just all trip out, fall down and trip out.

[939] You can't fight if you're tripping really hard enough.

[940] That's so true.

[941] So like that, it was like they were.

[942] Great idea.

[943] that is great idea yeah just balk everybody out on acid sure fucking love bombs a bomb so they wanted it to explode in the air and somehow I know that everybody would get infected with acid I don't know how they were gonna fucking distribute it it was probably gas if you would think that LSD you just need a tiny amount of LSD they it's it was explained this shit wasn't LSD Joe this was like something something they were trying to make to give you fucked up trips to give you like it wasn't like they wanted to give you a nice LSD trip this some of the stuff they whipped up yeah but I mean even if it was just a strong LSD if you if you blew it on the troops they'd be jacked oh yeah you know it's right Duncan LSD troops no it was the shit that they're talking about is like a they were like it was a bad like bad trip it's like an evil death trip it's not a good trip and everybody would just fall down be twitching in this trip oh my god but is that more humane than then nuking them killing them yeah Which is better.

[944] That's better.

[945] For sure.

[946] Make people trip out.

[947] It's better than nuke of them.

[948] Have you ever met a guy that likes bad trips?

[949] Like that was his bondage?

[950] Like, I just need the worst trick.

[951] Like it's his fetish?

[952] I'm about to die.

[953] Wow.

[954] I guess I'm, yeah.

[955] You know, that's a real terror, though.

[956] People pretend they like terror.

[957] Nobody likes terror.

[958] You pretend you like terror because you want to be different or dangerous or moody or dark.

[959] But real terror?

[960] Bad trips are no good.

[961] You don't want that, bitch.

[962] Did I ever tell you about the time I saw a woman?

[963] freaking out on ass at a rave no we were leaving it was in the morning it was me and my friend were leaving and this girl walks these girls like crying and standing by herself and we went up through and like you're all right can we help you and she's like i lost my friends and i'm i can't find him we're like we're like we'll give you right home we'll take you home um where do you live or do you have a car here we're trying to help her out her eyes were fucking black as the as night black as the wings just dilated like so we're like so we're like so we're walking up the steps with her and all of a sudden she goes i came from her and she's just screaming and we're like oh fuck this is a real bad trip she's melting down so we get to the top of the steps she's all of a sudden she's back to normal she's like my friends i can't find my friends and i really like to so we look over and there's some paramedics And we wave them down.

[964] They get her, put her on a table, straps, strapped her down.

[965] And the last thing I saw her was on a fucking table in front of a rave, writhing and going back into Mimu!

[966] Strapped.

[967] Yeah, they had to, man. She's having a psychotic break.

[968] She lost it.

[969] She took some shit and freaked the fuck out.

[970] And that was from acid?

[971] I don't know.

[972] I mean, it's something that dilated her eyes.

[973] Could have been a million things.

[974] Don't eat the brown acid.

[975] Don't eat the brown acid.

[976] Don't eat the bread That's the kid That to me with my luck It feels like that's something I would have heard Right after I'd eaten the brown acid I would take someone to just swallow that stuff Don't eat the brown acid That's the problem with drugs being illegal You don't know what the fuck you're gonna get Yeah and you don't and most people don't know how to take them No one educates people on how to take them So you end up with some fucking dumb dopey kid Who slurps back too much acid or whatever At a fucking rave and ends up in a minimal asylum probably for a few days.

[977] How many people do you think have gone crazy because of acid?

[978] Has anybody gone crazy because of anything else?

[979] Like, no one's gone crazy because of mushrooms, right?

[980] I don't know.

[981] Has that ever happened?

[982] I've never heard of that.

[983] I think of your borderline anything, it could definitely push you over.

[984] Push you over.

[985] Yeah, well, I remember one particular DMT trip where reality was real slippery for like two weeks afterwards where I felt like I might be a little crazy.

[986] I remember I felt like this is, I've seen.

[987] something that doesn't make any sense and I got there so easy and it's so much more vibrant than this world that it's it's very difficult for me to accept this world so I start looking at this world as if this world might be some sort of an artificial construct and that might be the real world it's it sounds completely retarded until you've had a real full -blown psychedelic trip because when you have a real full -blown one that world that you enter whatever the fuck that is that world of hallucination.

[988] I mean, hallucination is a strange word because it implies something, you see something that's not there.

[989] And I'm not necessarily sure that that's the correct way to look at it.

[990] I think you might be seeing something that is there, but you just can't see normally.

[991] I think that's more likely.

[992] I don't, I mean, I think, you know, some people see fucking, you know, a six foot tall rabbit that wants to take you to a secret room.

[993] Yeah, you're probably hallucinating.

[994] Yeah, you are definitely hallucinating.

[995] If you're not, you're in fucking trouble.

[996] But if you go so far, that the world around you has dissolved you know at that point in time this might not be imagination this might be another reality it might be something that you're just not capable of tuning into on a regular basis see this is a this this makes me think of a problem that I think is going to happen in the future which is that once they figure out how to like nerily uh put video games in your mind people are going to start having these real big problems differentiating virtual reality from actual reality and there's going to be some serious problems up ahead because it's like imagine you know what's the new what's the modern warfare three that just came out like imagine that you know six generations of consoles and computers down the line you know and so whatever that is however they're going to taste good how they're going to feel it they may have smells involved in it but what happens when that reality gets so good it you can no longer distinguish realities.

[997] You can no longer distinguish virtual worlds from real worlds because they're triggering the same thing in your brain that reality's triggering right now, but they're doing with computers.

[998] So it's indistinguishable.

[999] So how do you know when you've turned off the game?

[1000] How do you know when you're not playing anymore?

[1001] This is Hippie talk man. Oh fuck that.

[1002] This is what if man. You're right.

[1003] I don't think this is a what if.

[1004] I will admit to a million what ifs, but this seems like if you think of where a talk, If you think of where Atari was back in the, when, you remember when Atari came out?

[1005] Do you remember that shit?

[1006] Right.

[1007] And you saw that, for me, it was like, holy shit.

[1008] You have to consider the possibility that if this life is some sort of an illusion, that it's some sort of an ever -changing illusion, and that you're constantly in a part of it.

[1009] And maybe when you have a psychedelic trips, you wake up temporarily from the illusion.

[1010] Maybe psychedelics are like, like that sniffing shit that they give you when you get knocked out.

[1011] Yeah, smelling salts.

[1012] who just, what, what's going on?

[1013] Where am I?

[1014] Yeah, that's it.

[1015] Maybe that's what it is.

[1016] Yeah, no, that's...

[1017] This is the work of fiction, or it appears to be.

[1018] Yeah, this is just some kind of, or it's just like really low down on the spectrum of awareness.

[1019] I mean, it is happening, but you're only seeing one tiny pixel of the bigger thing.

[1020] It does many times feel like it's a work of fiction, though, doesn't it?

[1021] Yeah, well, yeah, can I tell you when it really felt like a work of fiction?

[1022] when we flew on Air France first fucking class to the U .K. That was, for me, it got really, really surreal and weird when we were sitting in that lounge.

[1023] Like, this was, like, I never fly first class.

[1024] So this was the kind of first class that I'd read about.

[1025] If you're out there and you've never flown Air France first class, first of all, please stay away from me because I don't like talking with people who haven't flown first class Air France.

[1026] but you I felt corrupted in the first 30 minutes yeah I was like holy shit this is this is so like different from any other flight it made every other first class experience I've had seem like shit seemed like some it was well you know it was really creepy you know what a creepy move that they did man what everybody was there was first class which was really nice then there was business class which is still really nice and then there was coach which always sucks well we got up the plane landed and a lady went through the aisle telling the business class people to get out of the way and let the first class people get off the plane first.

[1027] It's like Titanic shit.

[1028] I was like, it's like Titanic shit.

[1029] But I've never seen anyone do it as aggressively as this lady did it.

[1030] She almost pushed a guy back.

[1031] There was a guy who was trying to get through.

[1032] She's like, sir, no, no, stay there.

[1033] And then we all walk by.

[1034] They, if you have a connecting flight, there's a bond girl basically waiting in some kind of town car that picks you up, drives you to the security checkin.

[1035] You go through the security check -in.

[1036] They're basically they're treating you like you're a toddler.

[1037] They take you through the security check in, and then you go up to this lounge.

[1038] There's this special Air France lounge in Paris, and we're sitting there.

[1039] Robin Williams walks in.

[1040] You're serious?

[1041] That's where things seem like fiction, where it's like, okay, really?

[1042] I don't know them.

[1043] I didn't want to bug them.

[1044] Yeah, we didn't say hi, but it was very weird.

[1045] I would bug the fuck out.

[1046] Yeah, I've been bugged, so I don't need to talk to him.

[1047] I just yeah I mean yeah it would feel weird talking to have you're awesome in that Matt Damon movie man what's that you're awesome in that Matt Damon movie man what was it yeah that's I like the photographer one oh that was creepy as fuck yeah he's good actor one hour but yeah that is weird how they push people aside that they want the first class people to get off first like they made everybody sit down yeah that was disgusting it's disgusting and it's also that's how A lot of people have grown accustomed to living every moment of their lives.

[1048] You realize that the wealthy have, because, you know, sometimes I'll go out to a public place where there's a shitload of people and I'll walk around, I'll be like, man, I fucking hate being around all these people.

[1049] This sucks.

[1050] I don't like being in big crowds.

[1051] It's annoying.

[1052] It feels weird.

[1053] And then I'll be like, you're being negative, man. You've got to open up more.

[1054] You shouldn't let this bother you.

[1055] But I think a lot of super wealthy people, they're like, they analyze that feeling like, yeah, we don't want to be around anyone.

[1056] we just want to be around a small groups of people sequestered from society that are like us that are like us that are like us yeah that's it and they've they've they've essentially of you know how like the galapagos islands have their own species from being separated yeah i think like super rich people they're they have their own species pop and they have this own thing happening where they don't even they're they're really separated from us like they don't know they don't know they don't even know about you i bet there's some super wealthy people they don't even fucking know about occupy wall street they don't oh that's ridiculous i wouldn't be surprised oh come on that's impossible at this point that's absolutely impossible it felt like if to me it felt like there is a gigantic foam separation between like us and them did you see the berkeley footage no i didn't cops with batons just shoving them into the guts of these little kids girls too girls shoving these batons into their sides, just jabbing them over and over them.

[1057] The kids are screaming.

[1058] The kids are in a crowd.

[1059] Okay, so the kids are in the front of the crowd, and they can't even go anywhere.

[1060] There's people behind them.

[1061] So these cops are, to push the crowd back, the cops are thrusting their batons into the unlucky people that are at the front of the line.

[1062] And they're little people, man, little skinny kids.

[1063] And these cops are fucking jabbing them with batons.

[1064] It's really uncomfortable, man. Brian, you have really got to.

[1065] a great studio going on here you got the thing isn't even in focus no this isn't it that's not it it's probably one of many times it's just one of the many footage yeah they're doing it there they're sticking look at him i see him look at him doing that shit man they're poking them this isn't as clear yeah yeah they're hitting them holy shit i haven't seen this one they're just beating them what you fuck are these people it's so crazy they're this small group of it's like a classic They're screaming, stop beating students.

[1066] This small group of men has to face this gigantic horde of unarmed people.

[1067] And a small group of men, you know, they immediately have to automatically go on the defensive.

[1068] And look at them, they have bulletproof vests on and fucking helmets and guns strapped to their side and batons.

[1069] You know, and they also have to wear riot gear with face shields and shit.

[1070] I mean, they're coming at you, letting you know that they're there to fight.

[1071] You know, I mean, look, this is what it is.

[1072] Look, they're wearing helmets with face shields and shit, man. But I like the guy's shirt.

[1073] Pink shirt.

[1074] This guy's shirt.

[1075] I hate his belt, though.

[1076] That guy's shirt's a baton target.

[1077] You're not going on the barbarian, dude.

[1078] Now, why are they telling them to get off the property or why are they?

[1079] It's a good question.

[1080] Yeah, what are they doing here?

[1081] Are they scooping these people off the property?

[1082] I'm guessing.

[1083] No, no. They're checking them for lice.

[1084] Ah!

[1085] Hey.

[1086] You know, obviously they're telling people to stand back, and the people look you know if there's a crowd of people the people at the front are going to get pushed forward man oh shit oh yeah this is dark stuff man look at his boot to the neck wow he's fucking bastard he's uh he's going shin the neck that's a shitty control by the way it's not a good way to hold people down don't teach them go shin to control chin the neck on a normal person that get right up stupid yeah try tickling that's just try you're trying to hurt somebody when you go shin neck unless someone else is holding them and the back that's mean they're trying to enforce you know they're trying to like make them feel pain as they're cuffing them you know that's right they throw them down really hard they're really rough well it's not like that they're um did you see him you just shut you didn't need to shove her like that who are these guys who are these guys do after work I don't know these are cops man we need to find out who specifically who these people are and create special videos with their names and everything and their badge numbers there's already occupied people someone needs but there needs to be a website just dedicated to identifying the police at these protests who are being violent and pressing charges against them and suing them and making it so that it becomes financially dangerous for the individual to act the way that they're acting because if these cops if we if we can just get one of them and I'm not saying get one violently obviously I'm saying but if we can just get one legally or financially if one of these cops can go down like that then then all of them will start being afraid and they won't be so uh prone to use violence like that that should be someone should be taking charge of that so this is so surreal to me that this is happening right now this is what a sign of the times this is man it's like watching an alex jones dream or something watching this is like the shit he was talking about oh he's right this is what he's been talking It's what I always say about Alex Jones.

[1087] He's right 70 % of the time.

[1088] 70 % of the time he's right.

[1089] This is 30 % of the crazy stuff that he kind of makes up.

[1090] I wouldn't even say makes up.

[1091] He just, he goes a little too deep on certain subjects.

[1092] But these police, I don't know because, I mean, who knows?

[1093] But it's hard for me to believe that they're thinking about the new world order or protecting globalization.

[1094] It feels like they're just normal guys who are doing that.

[1095] It's a terrible position to be in.

[1096] I mean, imagine if you're a cop and all of a sudden they tell you, this is what you have to do.

[1097] you have to get the hippies off the lawn uh sir there's 300 000 of them what are you going to do how you're going to get them off the lawn good luck man you mean what are you supposed to do we we will the mayor has ordered you to clear the lawn so we must clear the lawn you can't clear that lawn man what if you're a cop what the fuck are you going to do you know the cops are obviously being sent there to keep these people from protesting or push them off of certain areas or keeping from entering certain places but at the end of the day you know they're stuck there's there's there's there's no excuse for what they're doing there's no excuse for beating those people there's no excuse for prodding those people they should absolutely not be cops because they can't handle that if they're doing that people don't have to hit someone who's not hitting you man no one those people were hitting back this this wasn't like they were in danger and they had to protect themselves I think they were ragdolling people man there needs to be a public shaming of those of those guys there needs to be you know how it's also this here's the other part though The fucking, the Occupy movement, all right?

[1098] There's a lot of shenanigans going on.

[1099] A lot of it is just nuts.

[1100] It's not all a bunch of people with valid points that are out there trying to resolve the issues that we currently have.

[1101] A lot of it's just crazy assholes, you know?

[1102] I mean, it's not all activists at these fucking things.

[1103] These things are magnets for chaos.

[1104] They're magnets for various, like, constant patterns of behavior in human beings.

[1105] also but that by now stereotypical patterns of behavior like hippies drug thugs drug dealers chaos there's homeless people there's a lot going on i mean it's a community of people that have taken to occupying giant chunks oh dude they showed occupy everywhere was a poster that someone put up online on the message board i looked at it and showed all the different places where people are protesting like what the fuck man that's when it really hit when you there's a photo it says occupy everywhere see you could find that dude there's occupy u .s and occupy everywhere and the photos are are fucking trippy dude when you look at all the different protests you're like whenever has it been like this before right that's right never it's never been like this before right this is incredible yeah this is a strange strange time and it snuck up on us yeah it was so quick all the sudden there's protests are everywhere and it really makes you take into consideration like where's the Where's the end point?

[1106] They can't win.

[1107] You know that Martin Luther...

[1108] Who can't win?

[1109] The fucking pigs.

[1110] They're not going to win.

[1111] You're talking to the time machine, man. Are you talking about the coppice?

[1112] No, the pigs.

[1113] That's the best word.

[1114] When you see some fucking fatty with a baton poking a 17 -year -old girl, there is no better description for that man than pig, oinker, piggy.

[1115] That's what that guy is.

[1116] He's a fucking disgusting, fucking pig.

[1117] a useless, cowardly human who's been hired by evil people to push down the force of evolution in the universe.

[1118] And if you try to stop evolution, you're fucked.

[1119] I don't know what's going to happen to that pig or the people like him, but it's not going to be great.

[1120] You can't hold it back what's happening.

[1121] It won't work.

[1122] I think as soon as you turn cops loose on people, cops are used to dealing with the enemy.

[1123] They're used to dealing with criminals.

[1124] They're used to behaving a certain way Because out in their world They have to behave that way If you want to stay alive as a cop You got to take no bullshit from any fucking perps You got to arrest people You got to deal with dangerous violent criminals That don't want to go to jail And know that you want to put them in jail It's a fucking high pressure, high stress job Absolutely The person to blame is not those cops It sounds like they should be to blame But the person to blame is the person Who put those cops in a position Where they're going after law -abiding citizens that's the problem because then even though those people technically aren't committing any crimes other than loitering I mean what are they doing I mean isn't there a right to protest well I mean who knows what the latest statutes are I think it's the property though I don't know it's just you know this they're ruining the lines you don't need but here's the thing can I just I just want to say because it couldn't be what I said could be misconstrued I'm not saying all cops are pigs I know you know I know okay but I want to be very very clear on that what I'm saying is cops are wired to deal with criminals I mean they try to work people all day but you got to be on edge man you got to be on edge all the time and when some asshole tells these cops now you have to go and you have to push back these crowds of unhappy intelligent people who are non -violent and these people have very valid points about the corruption that has eroded our system to an almost unfixable point and they're fucking upset because they're in college and where the fuck is their future and you cunts have ruined the whole batch there's nothing left for us we're growing up and we're coming out and there's nothing left for us you fuckheads you've ruined the whole thing and you're a cop man and you are the enemy you represent the man they treat you hostily you treat them hostilely they don't listen to you you treat them like criminals that's how you're wired you're wired to treat criminals like criminals yeah they all a sudden these young kids who have very valid points become criminals but it's also because there's a lot of douchebags in those groups that's what those groups are never pure you know well no and also those groups are by the way in the whole fucking problem with the uh the current formation of this protest movement or this revolution uh right now is that it's it's so loosely uh it's the problem and it's what's awesome about it is that it's uh modular and it seems to be you know broken up in all these groups that have come together into this one thing but there is no easier group to infiltrate than a modular group like that so by now the cia they they must have infiltrated they've got people there they're like They are studying like, okay, what's the best way to handle this?

[1125] How can we implant?

[1126] Break this up.

[1127] Break this up or make it turn.

[1128] CIA guys or fuck guys, girlfriends.

[1129] Yeah.

[1130] That sucks.

[1131] That would suck.

[1132] That's what they're going to co -op.

[1133] The CIA decides to fuck your girlfriend.

[1134] Yeah, CIA guys are just going to give them my agra and get these chicks high and just fuck the shit out of them.

[1135] Yeah.

[1136] A lot of these girls, they've never been with a real man. They're hanging out with all these hippies.

[1137] Oh, wait.

[1138] So you think CIA fuck agents have infiltrated Occupy Wall Street?

[1139] That's what my claim is.

[1140] I'm making that porn movie.

[1141] that's the movie man that is the movie CIA porn operatives CIA dick slinging experts like they show up at gangbangs Mr. Johnson come with me your government needs you and he's in the middle of fucking all these bitches and this guy's just banging these bitches left and right and that's what they do they send them in it's a group of them and one of the guys they got to pull out of retirement they're like we need you I can't fuck again I fucked my soul out in Vietnam I'm not going We need you You've got to come These hippie girls have got to be fucked These hippie girls are not getting good dick Ever these guys are eating nothing but granola And hemp seeds and shit and they smell No one's just grabbing these girls Are fucking their shit out of them And that's what the CIA guys do These these porno guys They send them in They start fucking all these girls Creates turmoil It's a special division It's like the A team They have their own They call themselves the hippie fuckers Yeah they've been doing If there's boot camps Where they send in Could you imagine That would work man On a lot of these Unfucking balanced people That would work Fuck them into submission Yeah Send send a bunch of guys To just go in there And fuck everyone man We're just gonna hire Like Brad Pitt looking dudes And just have them Just run through the ranks Get in with them Get tight with them And then just start banging dudes' wives That's your job And then like be real sloppy about it You know To say that you want to be dangerous But get caught Get caught left and right All the time All the time.

[1142] Always you leave a sock.

[1143] Everybody gets caught.

[1144] I leave it Rolex.

[1145] You always leave your watch.

[1146] You leave loads all over the bed.

[1147] You pull out on top on purpose and shoot your load on a dark cushion.

[1148] You know, the guy sits down and it looks at it.

[1149] He's like, this is a fucking load.

[1150] You've been fucked by the CIA.

[1151] The CIA is infiltrated our tent.

[1152] No, they have like, they actually can come in a pattern that indicates they were there.

[1153] Like a wax seal.

[1154] Yeah.

[1155] That's what they do.

[1156] They come on you and then they let it slowly congeal.

[1157] And then they put a seal on it.

[1158] They brand you I gotta use the bathroom Go use the bathroom man Don't hold it in Jesus Christ Do you know where it is Yeah In our powerful new Death Squad studios Do too too So Brian Do you know anything about You don't know anything About this football case Duncan where you going fella Over there You don't even know where you going Fucking guy Gets lost in a room With two doors I know And he tried that already Do you know anything About this football case No We talked about it on one of the podcasts earlier, but it seems like one guy who was caught up to 40 different people that he's fucked like in showers and stuff.

[1159] And he was an assistant football coach, Sandusky.

[1160] And he apparently was like a famous guy.

[1161] I don't know anything about the world of football, but I've heard the name Joe Paterno.

[1162] Yeah.

[1163] I've heard the name.

[1164] And then I guess Ashton Cusher came on Twitter and said something like, I can't believe they fired him or something like that.

[1165] Like he was defending the guy.

[1166] And then somebody said that now he, Ashton gave his Twitter account to somebody else to do for now on because it's just too many feedback from what he said.

[1167] So someone else is handling his Twitter account because he complained that they fired a guy who covered up a fucking assistant coach who was banging kids.

[1168] Let me tell you something, man. If a guy's banging kids, you kind of know.

[1169] Right.

[1170] I don't think you don't know.

[1171] Especially 40 accusations.

[1172] This guy's taking kids on the road with him, man. He took kids on the road with him, put him up in hotel.

[1173] bought them presents and shit right you know and not only that there was the story that the d a who was investigating the case disappeared in 2005 yeah so you know they had to fire him man this could be some crazy cover -up murder shit we don't even know what the fuck happened yet this guy was like a loved guy I mean this is a huge huge scandal apparently you know I talked to people that were what is it Penn State is that what it is that what they call themselves I don't even know, man. I'm sorry.

[1174] People are like, you don't know shit about football, you fucking pussy.

[1175] Yeah, I don't.

[1176] Here's the Sondesky.

[1177] Here's the missing guy, the Sondesky guy.

[1178] Yeah, he's a missing DA, the district attorney.

[1179] He went missing in 2005.

[1180] They fucking probably iced this guy, man. Yeah.

[1181] You know, when you're dealing with a case this big, apparently what happened was a grad student went into a shower, went back to retrieve something, and he heard noises in the shower.

[1182] that were like steady rhythmic slapping noises went in and saw this guy fucking a 10 -year -old boy in the ass in the shower and they also investigators have him on the phone with one of the boy's mothers and the boy's mother asks him if he touched the boy in an inappropriate place in an inappropriate manner and he goes uh maybe he said maybe yeah it was like yeah um i don't know uh maybe maybe i did like maybe you did like when you're that crazy you're that petto they were protecting a pedo man that's that's all this is because they don't want to ruin the football yeah they were crazy straight up protecting a peto there's no question about it there's no question about it man you know that there's no way you can hide that darkness man that's as dark as it gets you're fucking little boys and they're little assholes you're you're going to hide that 10 year old boys not even a man you know it's not it's not like you're tricking men and in you're banging you know poor straight men no no no no you're you're banging little boys you're a piece of shit man you're worse than you're worse and you're the worst kind of demon yeah how does how does it how does it possible that that guy can just be interacting with everyone else and they're not going to know then no one's going to weird out you're all going on the road together and no there's uh mr sandusky with his fucking 10 year old buddy you'd be like what are you doing with this 10 year old boys Is this your son?

[1183] If that was your son, that's one thing.

[1184] Well, he's close to his kid.

[1185] He likes to take his kid with him when he goes to football games.

[1186] A little boy loves football.

[1187] Yeah, okay, that's great.

[1188] That's a great dad.

[1189] But if you're a guy who's just taking some 10 -year -old around with you and he's always got new presents and shit, how does everybody not look at that?

[1190] How does everybody not go, what the fuck is going on with this guy?

[1191] There's something.

[1192] There has to be some weird interaction between them.

[1193] There has to be something that treats you that there has to be.

[1194] When a boy's getting fucked by some old man, you don't just sneak that through.

[1195] What's that 10 -year -old boy?

[1196] I don't know.

[1197] He's always near me. Fucking weird kid.

[1198] No, but there's a, like, you know, in families, people who've been molested.

[1199] Yeah.

[1200] It was like they would pretend that it wasn't happening.

[1201] The family would kind of pretend it wasn't there, but they all know it's kind of there, but nobody wants to deal with it because it's so fucked up.

[1202] I know a girl who was molested by her uncle, and her family attacked her and her sister and her cousins who were all molested by the same guy.

[1203] Her family all attacked them and said that they were.

[1204] all lying and they're like whoa like this guy molested them for years yeah for years and nobody would believe it that's it's amazing they were what if like the rest of the family all molested the uncle and that was like their little gimp and they're just trying to cover their yeah they're just evil 10 year old demons going after the uncles yeah have you read that book lolita no really good i used to go search lolita a lot no it's what gave birth to that term you know what's really bizarre man the arbitrary age of 18 when one becomes legal because there was a threat on the message board recently where some attractive young lass has just become 18 and there was a celebration so there's all these photos of this well -endowed little hooker and I shouldn't call her hooker she's probably a nice girl well -endowed little night when I say hooker I call my friends hookers like I'll call Duncan hooker I don't mean in a bad way just to clarify but this well -endowed nice young lady and they're all talking about fucking the shit out of her and I'm like man that's dark she was just a little baby like a couple of weeks ago like a couple weeks ago she was 17 now she's 18 and you guys all want to shove your rods inside of her like that's dark man isn't it it's kind of dark there's something but it's fucking totally legal you know you know one guy was like I'd like to see her dirty cunt or something you're saying some like really rude for shit yeah I'll fuck the shit out of this dirty cunt you know something along those lines and it made me laugh because it was ridiculous because it was so over the top but then I thought about it's kind of creepy that you can say this about an 18 year old where you can't say that about 16 year old you're a piece of shit man yeah what about states that are even younger like 15 and stuff you're like oh they're 14 before that's crazy yeah well you know I think I don't think it's uniform all across the country I think Nevada where that fucking dude that 51 year old dude got um Courtney Stoddy yeah married that girl's neighbor's neighbor him Sam Tripley's neighbor we didn't even talk about it on Sam Tripley's show we forgot to talk about wait he's neighbors with Courtney Stodden yes dude Well, we'll talk about it on tonight's podcast.

[1205] That's crazy.

[1206] Oh, beautiful.

[1207] Yeah, we're going to do another podcast tonight, folks.

[1208] This is how fucking wild we are.

[1209] We're doing a podcast with Duncan.

[1210] We're Duncan.

[1211] I can't talk.

[1212] We're doing a podcast with Duncan.

[1213] And then when we're done with this, we got a show tonight, a sold -out show at the Ice House in Pasadena, stage two, the intimate venue.

[1214] And so we're going to do that afterwards.

[1215] And we're all going to come back here and do podcasts in between our sets.

[1216] So this fucking new room is key.

[1217] This is awesome.

[1218] It's such a sweet setup.

[1219] It's at the ice house.

[1220] So we're going to be doing a lot more podcasts from here.

[1221] But what were we just talking about?

[1222] We're talking about fucking Courtney Stodd.

[1223] Oh, yeah.

[1224] She's, she's Tripley's neighbor, man. We'll let Tripley talk about it again today.

[1225] It's a teaser, ladies and gentlemen.

[1226] I'll give you a teaser.

[1227] But in the meantime, before Tripoli comes on, immediately follow Courtney Stodden on Twitter.

[1228] And then let Tripoli fill in the rest of the puzzle.

[1229] Her Twitter's ridiculous.

[1230] And she's 16 going on 40.

[1231] She looks like a 38 -year -old lady Did you see her on Dr. Drew?

[1232] Dr. Drew had her on her on herself.

[1233] Dr. Drew had her on there just to see it because everyone says her boobs are fake.

[1234] So they had this doctor come in there and they made this whole episode with like trying to figure out if it's boobs are real.

[1235] And like the doctors had a hard time like I can't see through this muscle.

[1236] It's ridiculous.

[1237] Like they really built it up even more.

[1238] But the whole time they're just feeling her tits.

[1239] It's just an excessive thing.

[1240] That is so crazy.

[1241] They're feeling 16 -year -old tits on the seven Mexican guys.

[1242] Dude, it's such a repressed culture.

[1243] We're such a repressed culture.

[1244] We're such a. sexually repressed culture that this kind of shit is what we fixate on this is what we fixate on this is a real thing like oh yes bring her in bring in the slut so we can test her breast well it's not like they don't like each other they obviously enjoy each other's company they hang around together i mean it's just you're not supposed to be banging a 16 year old dude no and check this out the i guess the photographer of a lot of her photos her sexy photos like where she's with her her boyfriend or her husband or whatever are actually taken by her mom oh she oh yeah What the fuck, man. Give her the scarlet letter.

[1245] Did you ever see there was like one of those 20 -20 type shows and it was all on this porn star whose parents support her work?

[1246] What was her name?

[1247] I'm trying to remember.

[1248] It's the one that the Bunny Ranch guy used to hang out.

[1249] It's not sunny, is it?

[1250] Sunny Luwain, Sonny Luwain, Sunny Luwain.

[1251] Oh, man. Sunny Leon.

[1252] Sonny Leon.

[1253] Is that it?

[1254] No, I don't think that is.

[1255] Isn't it her?

[1256] I think that's a different girl.

[1257] I think that's a different girl.

[1258] But don't you think it's really fucking weird?

[1259] That's a dark -haired girl, I think.

[1260] Don't you think it's really fucking weird?

[1261] And I think it's like obviously completely fucked up to like fuck people under 18.

[1262] But in general, don't you think that outside of that, which I think is like sociologically, it's super fucked up and it clearly fucks people's lives up and people who do it should be thrown to alligators.

[1263] But in general, isn't it?

[1264] strange that for adults sex the terms used to describe sex dirty naughty filthy it's like we attach to the act of bringing life into the universe or simulating bringing life into the universe we attach to that so many adjectives that are just like it's disgusting smut filth that's what when you look at porn that's like the words they use to sell porn the dirtiest smutty as smutty as filth this side of it's like so strange that well it's because of obviously because in order to have an industrial revolution in order to you know have the society that we currently enjoy people have to work and if people were just dirty fucking all day they would complicate shit nothing would ever get done we have an ethic and one of the ethics is you keep your fucking sexuality to yourself right all day long very weird mr herman kane with your fucking unwanted massages fucking yeah yeah it's it's so fucking strange man it's like yeah it's what you're telling me about how you you were in, what do you say you were in Germany and you watch like a gang bang on regular TV?

[1265] Yeah.

[1266] It's like, they didn't show penetration, but this dude was banging this chick from behind her tits were flopping around.

[1267] There was other people behind them.

[1268] They were fucking.

[1269] Yeah.

[1270] It was like, it was almost like some soft core sort of a thing.

[1271] But what you said about Hartman at the strip club, that's, to me, that's like, that's, like, how it should be.

[1272] It's how it should be joyful.

[1273] It converts, it's like, it's the fact that it's not is an indication of how like backwards and repress we.

[1274] are yeah i mean by the way you know filthy dirty things are awesome i'm not saying that that doesn't add to like the excitement of it but it seems like in our culture it's so it's so like fucking scarlet letter nathaniel hawthorne style humiliation of people who really aren't doing that bad compared to what other people in the world are doing right you know like it's it's a lot worse for you know we've probably talked about this well i think it's because we we have the instinct to fuck more than is necessary we we we have the instinct to fuck like we needed to fuck 10 000 years ago when half the babies were eaten by crocodiles you know we have this this drive as long as the man is alive as long as the man is breathing healthy and feeling robust they want to fuck they want to shoot loads into people and create more people and it's just it's just the desire to breathe That's all it is.

[1275] The desire to breed manifests itself in a code that runs your body.

[1276] And as long as that code runs your body, people are going to want to fuck.

[1277] And if that's going to be the case, if people are going to, there's no way you're going to get anything done.

[1278] Because people are just going to be trying to fuck each other all day because that's what they want to do.

[1279] So you have to figure out a way to suppress them and control them and to calm them down.

[1280] Peto bear.

[1281] Peto bear.

[1282] See a little approval.

[1283] You know, to calm them down to the point where, you know, things get done.

[1284] so you have to tell them it's naughty it's dirty stop it put it away put it away you got to shame them it's the only way they feel bad about pulling it out oh i don't want a fucker but i can't you go in the bathroom and thinking about that girl you're working with uh you know it's because you have this massive suppression during the day of your natural instincts and feelings but didn't mckenna talk about some primordial like world where there were mushroom orgies it was like this people like having mushroom his utopian view of the past was that there was uh at one point in time society had engaged in like almost daily mushroom use and that's what it elevated us from the lower hominids and that was the whole stoned ape theory he believes that psychedelic mushrooms and the eating of them was responsible for the doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years huge huge mystery in a fossil record so he had a lot of like uh really nutty theories like that but you know they're very interesting to consider but i don't know you ever been an orgy no no never been you ever been an orgy Brian?

[1285] Just two girls.

[1286] I don't want you.

[1287] I've never been in.

[1288] Hello, Columbus, Ohio.

[1289] I know, I know people have been to orgies.

[1290] I was at a party that.

[1291] I know a girl worked at a place where they would have orgies.

[1292] She worked as a cocktail waitress at this place where they would go, people would go, and then they would just start fucking.

[1293] They would just meet up and go into rooms and fucking everywhere she went.

[1294] She was like, people were just fucking everywhere you went.

[1295] You got there and they weren't pretty.

[1296] They weren't good looking people, but they were just all of them, like naked, half naked, some were dressed, some didn't participate, they just watched and it was like her club in L .A. People would go and just fuck.

[1297] Yeah, it was crazy.

[1298] She was like laughing at it.

[1299] She's like, it is the weirdest job.

[1300] She goes, after a couple hours, I got used to the fact that people were just all around and fucking all the time.

[1301] Nobody bothered me. She's like, that's the one thing that happens, you know, when everyone else is fucking and someone wants to serve your drinks, you barely even concentrate on that person.

[1302] You're like, yeah, yeah, here's your money.

[1303] Thank you, bye.

[1304] I want to go fuck somebody who wants to fuck me. So it was like much safer, actually, than working at a bar where you were looked at It's like, oh, look at this girl.

[1305] Come in with my drink, yeah, baby.

[1306] Where are you going after?

[1307] What are you doing later?

[1308] Won't you live with me?

[1309] You know, those guys didn't even look at her because there's all these people that were fucking in front of them.

[1310] Everyone was sucking cock and everyone you can bang anybody.

[1311] So there's probably a few contrarians that, like, turn their gaze towards her.

[1312] Like, fuck all these people that are banging each other.

[1313] What about this girl?

[1314] How does she feel about this?

[1315] You know, you're always going to have that one.

[1316] The one girl who doesn't want to fuck at the horgy is who you fall in love with.

[1317] Well, there's just something dudes that are just, There's some dudes that are broken.

[1318] They always go for the girl that's going to just be damaged goods and always going to need to be with the person who can't be with them.

[1319] Yeah, it's always the case.

[1320] We need the grand distraction, the grand distraction of relationships, you know.

[1321] Imagine when you were young, remember, when you were young, rather?

[1322] Imagine if you felt like that now, like when you were young and you'd break up, you really would think like, God, this is the end.

[1323] I can never be happening in a relationship ever again.

[1324] You used to believe that.

[1325] Yeah, sure.

[1326] You know, when you're like 14?

[1327] How many songs are about that?

[1328] There's countless songs that that's the main message is that it's over.

[1329] I've met that or the songs like begging for one more night.

[1330] Yeah, yeah.

[1331] One more night.

[1332] Give me just one more night.

[1333] It's so gross.

[1334] Fuck me one more time, please.

[1335] It's so beta.

[1336] Don't you got a Rolodex homie?

[1337] Don't you got other girls you can call?

[1338] This is some planet of the.

[1339] shit son let me just give you a little heads up you need to go to the gym and do some squats eat some bison meat and get your shit together son bisoned get some get some some strong stop doing that bro get some strong game in your system something that's been murdered that lived a free life all right a wild life and then you shoot it with a fucking bow and arrow and then you take that thing and cut it up and eat it that's what you need to do and squats and carry logs up hills that's what you need to do what you don't need to do give me just one more yeah that's what girls go wet for begging more girls don't go wet for begging uh just got to keep them around be nice to them fuck the shit out of them the end if they leave they leave you go hey you know i did my best i was nice to you i fucked the shit out of you obviously you got issues what about this one remember what about this one remember this one met my old lover at the grocery store i don't even know what that is what the hell is these songs are burned into my mind have you You haven't heard that?

[1340] You just made that up.

[1341] You can imagine if that wasn't even a real song, but it was like a song that occurs in his dream world.

[1342] It's Dan Fogelberg.

[1343] Oh, God.

[1344] These are divorce songs.

[1345] These are, there was a divorce boom.

[1346] And during this divorce boom, this specific genre of music came out.

[1347] And I know it very well because that's what my mama listened to.

[1348] She come and pick me up at the Y and I would sit in the backseat of her car as she listened to like, turn around bright eyes Every now and then I fall apart That's a divorce song And she would get You know it was very like dramatic And those songs are burnt into my mind And one of them was that Dan Fogelberg song Man my old lover at the grossest dollar Here's my experience with Dan Fogelberg When I was growing up I lived in San Francisco when I was about From 7 to 11 And we had a next door neighbors Who was a cool guy named Barry and who's my stepdad's buddy and we would go over his place and listen to his records and they had some badass records this is San Francisco in the 70s man he had the monkeys and all this shit and I just loved the fact that you could put a headphone on and it pushed it to the jack and you play a record and it was like you know it was in your head and I'd be singing along they'd have to tell me shut up, stop singing and you sing terrible but I remember thinking like wow you know my parents listen to some cool ass fucking music you know there's some cool music Like I listened to some Billy Joel You know I remember listening to the Captain Jack When I was like seven years old I'm doing what a great fucking song this is God damn And then We had a friend And I was over his house And I asked him if I could listen to his music And he said yeah And he had a Dan Fogelberg record And I put that shit on And I was like Why does this guy want to depress me like this?

[1349] Why is this wrong with his mouth Why is this guy singing this What is he saying?

[1350] You're making me cry man And I'm fucking seven years old.

[1351] You're bumming me out.

[1352] Yeah.

[1353] You know?

[1354] Or wherever I was when I read, listen to that.

[1355] But I was like, this is just nonsense music.

[1356] Oh, it is.

[1357] This poor guy.

[1358] Somebody needs to tell him.

[1359] But then, you know, the thing is, this is where people get confused.

[1360] That one guy, James Taylor, did it right.

[1361] Yeah.

[1362] And that's why everybody gets fucked up because he had songs that were like super emotional and everything.

[1363] But they had such a point of view.

[1364] that they were special.

[1365] There was something to the shit that he was singing.

[1366] So even though it was, it seemed like it was kind of mushy, but in fact it wasn't.

[1367] What it was was just vulnerable and honest.

[1368] And there's like a strength in that.

[1369] Yeah, totally.

[1370] You know?

[1371] And so these other motherfuckers with their beta music.

[1372] Whenever you hear in a song, make it through the night, that was something that still confuses me. What does that mean?

[1373] We can make it through the night.

[1374] Like, how do you not make it through the night from?

[1375] fucking you're not gonna die fucking what's the what's the worry when people sing making it through the night what is it making out through the night no no it's it's like there's it's no it's it's no it's always sad when they're singing it like they're going going to war or something you know they don't mean making it at making it they mean like getting going through trenches or like not having a nervous breakdown that night or something you know it's like what it is when you listen to certain songs and you you you hear people getting all emotional and You don't feel like it's, you don't feel like it's valid.

[1376] It's like you're being too much of a pussy in this song.

[1377] Like you're being too much of a pussy with your expression.

[1378] I could go along with you here.

[1379] I could get caught up in the wave and go with you.

[1380] But I don't feel like it's necessary.

[1381] I don't feel like it warrants it.

[1382] You know, then you listen to like James Taylor and you hear like, just yesterday morning, they met me know you were gone.

[1383] You know that song?

[1384] Yeah, of course.

[1385] That's a depressing fucking song.

[1386] I've seen fire and icing rain.

[1387] I've seen sunny days.

[1388] I thought would never end.

[1389] Or Elliot Smith.

[1390] You listen to Elliot Smith.

[1391] Same thing.

[1392] He would not like Elliot Smith.

[1393] Rogan?

[1394] Rogan would.

[1395] I don't think he would like Elliot Smith at all.

[1396] Yeah, I listened to some of his stuff.

[1397] I wanted to kick him in the balls.

[1398] I was like, kid, you need to get out of the house.

[1399] Stop playing video games.

[1400] I only listen to one song because Duncan told me how great the guy was.

[1401] It's one of my favorite singer.

[1402] There's a lot of shit that I love that I'm sure you don't love.

[1403] Elliot Smith.

[1404] Do you ever listen to Kiss alone in your car and sing along?

[1405] Nope.

[1406] Black Keys all the way.

[1407] I've been listening to a lot of Black Keys.

[1408] That's awesome.

[1409] They're great.

[1410] I went on a period for like four months, so that's all I listened to.

[1411] I would go in my car and I got the iPod thing in the car, and I would just go right to Black Keys.

[1412] You know what I've been listening to you lately?

[1413] What?

[1414] You'll make fun of me?

[1415] Spongle?

[1416] You ever listen to Spongle?

[1417] Did somebody did a Spongel thing where they took their music, and they combined it with me talking about DMT?

[1418] Oh, that's cool.

[1419] Yeah, it's pretty dope.

[1420] His songs are trippy, man. One of the songs I was just listening to today, he's good to listen to and write.

[1421] I like writing and listening to him.

[1422] One of the songs I was hearing today, the lyrics are like, LSD, DMT.

[1423] It's like, have you heard that song?

[1424] It's really weird.

[1425] I mean, I can't even sing it because you have to have like seven synthesizers and a UFO just to make the, whatever fucking noises are coming out of Spongle.

[1426] You have to have a UFO.

[1427] Yeah, that's like rave music, right?

[1428] Is that what you would consider rave music?

[1429] It's kind of like ambient rave music or something.

[1430] But, yeah, Some of it's, yeah, it's not, it doesn't have like as much of a driving beat.

[1431] It's just more like super trippy psych.

[1432] The guy really did capture something and like brought it back through music.

[1433] He's, it's really good.

[1434] Yeah, it's really good.

[1435] It's not like, I've listened to some of that stuff that's not so focused, not so tuned in.

[1436] It's really kind of gross.

[1437] Yeah.

[1438] You know, it's like everything else, man. It's like mushy songs.

[1439] Like what we just talked about, James Taylor.

[1440] He's not mushy.

[1441] Right.

[1442] You know, but like there's certain, nothing's not mushy.

[1443] He's genuine.

[1444] there's certain people like they get really offended by non -genuine behavior like there's some huge push to get nickelback removed from what is it a hockey game is it is it hockey the nickelback thing i can't remember i think so it might be football i saw this thing on reddit and i maybe i don't i'm not remember it right but it said if you ever want to hide files on your computer write a folder that says nickelback Oh my God, that's hilarious.

[1445] I met that dude, very briefly, the lead singer guy in a venue once where the UFC was going to be there on Saturday and he was there on Friday.

[1446] He's very nice guy.

[1447] As Lions Thanksgiving game, protests for Nickelback.

[1448] They got some good songs, man. I'm sorry.

[1449] They're slick.

[1450] They're overproduced.

[1451] It seems like they're, you know, almost people like them because they're too good, a pop song.

[1452] You know, and sometimes they're like the, you know, it's almost too cliche.

[1453] But they're good.

[1454] I want to be a rock star song This has been a million of those The Cypress Hill version So you want to be your rock star That's the best one I don't even know that song I gotta admit man I've got very very limited Yeah I can't The Cypress Hill version is badass I like Cypress Hill That's a badass rock star song But the Nickelback one is not bad man It's not a bad song You never heard that song I want to be a rock star?

[1455] I hate Nickelback I'm sorry Really?

[1456] Well I don't I don't hate Nickelback I don't particularly look forward to listening to them, but they got some good songs.

[1457] They're not that offensive.

[1458] It's like his voice or the style of their music just just like chalk.

[1459] You can't say.

[1460] It seems almost, it seems like people feel like it's not honest or something, you know?

[1461] What is it?

[1462] Is it just affected?

[1463] What is it?

[1464] Aren't it affected?

[1465] It's affected.

[1466] They're videos.

[1467] I think I've seen a nickel back video and it was very affected and it was very hard to watch because it was sappy and like cheese super cheesy but i like i i i don't have a strong opinion about them they also seem like you know there's certain bands like remember when new kids on the block came out and it was like kind of hip to not like new kids on the right yes it's like they're kind of like that where it's a mark of it's like a fashion to not like them or something yeah yeah they've got some good stripper songs i've never listened to that i don't know i've only listened to seeing that one video how could it be worse than some of foreigners songs what's it i've been waiting for a girl like you i've been waiting I like that song.

[1468] It's a good song, but come on, man. How are any of the Nickelback songs, any less happy than that?

[1469] I believe that guy.

[1470] I don't believe this Nickelback guy.

[1471] I think this guy is just like, is insincere.

[1472] So you think it's just packaged, pre -produced, just thought out, too calculated.

[1473] Is that what it is?

[1474] What do you think that guy?

[1475] I think radio killed Nickelback for me. I think it's, I blame radio for that.

[1476] It's interesting with this subject because we talked about a real band.

[1477] I mean, as real and scratchy as you can get, the black keys.

[1478] They're like scratchy.

[1479] They're like almost like, even though it's an MP3, like you could hear the record.

[1480] You know, those guys are like, that's a band, man. There's a band playing instruments and singing, and these are some songs they wrote, and this is the sounds they like.

[1481] And if you're drinking whiskey and playing pool, that's the fucking song you want to hear.

[1482] You want to hear that shit in the background.

[1483] You know, that's real music, man. And then you got, you know other stuff like nickelback that's like this is sort of a different thing it's like they just got it honed down to like the slickly packaged sort of kind of cliche and it's intent but very well done like you can't criticize any aspects though it's very well gone that's the voice is strong and the singing the guitar is good but somehow another some for some people they they get upset by it some well some people it's really weird man some people just just, the rubber ain't touching the road when it comes to what they're making.

[1484] They're just, they're purely imitative.

[1485] Some people have, like, plugged into the fucking magma, and they're vomiting out this thing.

[1486] They're, they're like, they've become a channel to something, and it's undeniable when you hear it.

[1487] Even if you don't like it, you can still tell, this is definitely real.

[1488] Most of the time, you can still tell this is, this is something super unique and special.

[1489] And it's very, to me, it's funny when you see imitators.

[1490] It's funny when you, because you can't fake it.

[1491] It's one thing you can't fucking fake.

[1492] It's like what Joey Diaz says.

[1493] I don't know if he still says it or says it all the time.

[1494] Holograms.

[1495] You've heard him say that?

[1496] Yeah, he says that about people that are fake.

[1497] Yeah.

[1498] He's a fucking hologram.

[1499] Yeah, it's interesting.

[1500] Yeah.

[1501] Yes, you can't really fake it.

[1502] And when you see like, and, but with some artists, they really plug into it.

[1503] Like that fucking kid I was telling you about.

[1504] Yes, the 12 year old.

[1505] I think he's, yeah, nine or 12.

[1506] I think he's not.

[1507] Well, I think he's 12 now.

[1508] Yeah.

[1509] Yeah, well, I think that's all going through the internet.

[1510] Apparently there was like a big piece on him from like 2006 and now he's been like studying in Europe this whole time.

[1511] But yeah, you told me about him.

[1512] And then after you told me about him, it was all over Twitter, all over my message board.

[1513] There was like a couple different threads about it.

[1514] You know, it's a meme.

[1515] You know about this kid?

[1516] You saw this thing or this kid?

[1517] No. He's like they say super genius kid.

[1518] They say it's super genius musician.

[1519] He's like the greatest musician to come along.

[1520] Oh, is that movie based off of him?

[1521] No, no, no. this is a new kid.

[1522] A new kid.

[1523] Tell him what he does.

[1524] This is crazy.

[1525] One of this segment I saw, I'm sure if you YouTube, this kid, you can find it right away, but he's with his piano teacher, and he takes the music, and he flips it backwards and upside down, and he can play it backwards.

[1526] He can play music backwards and upside down.

[1527] And she was like, I don't see how anyone can do this.

[1528] He's composed like five symphonies, and they say that most people don't do that, or do that in their lifetime.

[1529] Wrap your head around that.

[1530] Wrap your head around that kid.

[1531] What is that?

[1532] What is that?

[1533] Is it a mild form of autism?

[1534] It's from the Matrix.

[1535] He taps into something.

[1536] That's not him, Brian.

[1537] How does he do that?

[1538] Look at the skill involved.

[1539] I don't understand.

[1540] We're looking at a little boy who's literally not looking at the keyboard.

[1541] It's backwards.

[1542] He has his back to the piano.

[1543] Listen to the music.

[1544] he's a prodigy what if we get so dumb that this is what is considered it's a super chimp imagine if you had a chimp they could do that not only can my chimp do this joe did you hear a kid why don't you find that video what is what would you think the title is the problem is i can't remember his name so you'd have to look up like um 12 year old genius musician yeah and he pretty much says what all super genius guys say is that it just comes to them he says he hears it yeah he just hears it and he writes down what he hears that's what it is wow how the fuck can he do it backwards that's amazing that's just showing off the little fuck yeah you know the problem i don't think this is i don't know if this is him what is it that's not that's actually no that's that's that's not him brian did you put butthole in the search yeah it's it's butthole in a search really i don't understand it seems like that waste time yeah that's Brian.

[1545] All his Google searches, he adds butthole to it.

[1546] That's definitely, definitely not him, Brian.

[1547] Come on, man. Find it.

[1548] Find it, Brian.

[1549] That was listed under an amazing 10 -year -old piano prodigy.

[1550] 12 -year -old.

[1551] I know, that's what I happen.

[1552] Super genius musician.

[1553] It's not going to know.

[1554] Just composed, how many, what did you do?

[1555] Five symphonies.

[1556] Right, right, 12 -year -old composed five symphonies.

[1557] Put that in Google and you'll find it.

[1558] Someone will tweet.

[1559] beat to us.

[1560] Yeah, they probably already have.

[1561] But if you just Google 12 -year -old composed five symphonies, for sure, you'll find that guy.

[1562] You got it?

[1563] Yeah.

[1564] Yeah, see?

[1565] There he is.

[1566] That's him.

[1567] Blue Jay.

[1568] He works renowned Juilliard School who, some say, is the greatest talent to come along in 200 years.

[1569] He's written five olden symphonies, and listen to this.

[1570] No, I can't.

[1571] Twelve.

[1572] What happened?

[1573] Is this a commercial?

[1574] Excellent.

[1575] There's a composer.

[1576] studying at New York's renowned Juilliard School, who some say is the greatest talent to come along in two.

[1577] Sam Zeman is a composer.

[1578] He teaches music theory to Jay at Juilliard in New York City, where he's been teaching for 17 years.

[1579] This is an absolute fact.

[1580] This is objective.

[1581] This is not a subjective opinion.

[1582] Jay could be sitting right here, and he could be composing right now.

[1583] He could finish a piano sonat.

[1584] before our very eyes in probably 25 minutes.

[1585] And it will be a great piece.

[1586] How's that possible?

[1587] Well, Jay told us he doesn't know where the music comes from, but it comes fully written, playing like an orchestra in his head.

[1588] As you hear it playing, can you change it as it goes along?

[1589] Can you say to yourself, oh, let's bring the oboes in here, or let's bring the string section here?

[1590] They seem to come in by themselves if they need to.

[1591] It's not something you're trying to do.

[1592] Yeah, because it's like, the unconscious mind is giving orders at the speed of light, you know.

[1593] I mean, so I just hear it as if it were a smooth performance of a work already written when it isn't.

[1594] It's involuntary.

[1595] I suppose so, yeah.

[1596] Like the beating of the heart.

[1597] You don't have to think about it.

[1598] Mm -mm.

[1599] It seems all the kids are downloading music these days.

[1600] It's just that Jay, with his composing program, is downloading it from his mind.

[1601] The program records his notes and plays them back.

[1602] That is, when the computers up and running, Jay composes so rapidly that he often crashes the computer.

[1603] It is an eyebook.

[1604] It's looking at a picture of the score.

[1605] Get him a better computer.

[1606] It's a prodig.

[1607] Get him a MacBook.

[1608] Jay's parents are as surprised as anyone.

[1609] Neither is a professional musician.

[1610] His father Robert is a linguist, a scholar in Slavic language, who lost his sight at the age of 36 to retinitis pigmentosa.

[1611] His mother, Orna, is an Israeli -born painter.

[1612] That's Michael Jay's eight -year -old brother.

[1613] He's not a musical prodigy.

[1614] But Robert and Orna remember when they figured out that Jay was.

[1615] I think around two...

[1616] Is that one of the Penn State kids?

[1617] When he started writing...

[1618] Whoa, look at that!