The Joe Rogan Experience XX
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[1] Yeah.
[2] And we're live.
[3] Ooh, take a sip of that delicious coffee.
[4] You got the best coffee, sir.
[5] Oh, is that an Abakimie Fight Club?
[6] Oh, it sure is.
[7] Oh, wow.
[8] You guys just have it on here.
[9] You guys have the same one as this K -Ban coffee one?
[10] Yeah, Tate's the one who hooked me up with those.
[11] Oh.
[12] There you go.
[13] There you go.
[14] Same luck.
[15] We need to redo those.
[16] So, did you hear there was some fights this weekend?
[17] I mean, I breeze by him.
[18] I saw the highlights.
[19] I thought you brought me on to talk politics.
[20] It's Trump and stuff.
[21] Can we get into that?
[22] I was talking about Joe Stein.
[23] Yeah, nobody's talking about politics these days.
[24] Thank God.
[25] It's an important thing.
[26] We should bring it up because it's not like, I went on a few celebrities, Twitter pages, and I was like, bleh.
[27] People are freaking out.
[28] They're not just freaking out.
[29] They won't shut the fuck up about it.
[30] Oh, it's nonstop.
[31] Nonstop.
[32] And half of it is almost like, I think like they want everyone to know that they're upset.
[33] Oh, yes.
[34] They want everyone to know that.
[35] They're one of the upset people.
[36] They're not one of the Make America Great Again people.
[37] No, they promote that they're upset.
[38] Like, I promote a live show.
[39] Like, they want people to know where they're at, where they stand on it.
[40] This is one female comic, and I go to her page every now and then.
[41] I know who it is.
[42] I know who it is.
[43] And I just go, Jesus Christ.
[44] Me too.
[45] I almost want to send her DM just like, you got to chill out.
[46] Just relax.
[47] You got to chill out.
[48] Just relax.
[49] Well, did you see what is happening with Amy Schumer?
[50] Oh, I did see.
[51] She's so anti -Trump.
[52] But you can't, you can't make it that, the, That part of the act.
[53] Like, people were paying tickets, and people were just, like, walking out.
[54] But she keeps harping on it.
[55] Well, you know, there's two ways of looking at.
[56] There's one way that people say they have a voice.
[57] And if they have a voice, it needs to get, you know, they need to use that voice to get the word out.
[58] Not at a comedy show, though.
[59] Yeah.
[60] Make me laugh.
[61] I didn't mean to call the bitch.
[62] You're right.
[63] But make me laugh.
[64] Do you know, don't even call her a bitch?
[65] She would call herself a bitch.
[66] Yeah, you know what I'm saying, though.
[67] At least back in the day, she would.
[68] Yeah.
[69] I mean, she's like, way more.
[70] She's way more, like, political and feminist now than ever before.
[71] If you go back to the old Amy Schumer that was on, like, Opie and Anthony, she wasn't into that at all.
[72] She was, like, one of the guys that was, like, her selling point.
[73] Maybe she was telling, maybe she got a little older, and she's like, man, I want to talk about different stuff.
[74] Yeah.
[75] But that's not the platform for it, I don't think.
[76] Well, if it is, you got to be really funny.
[77] Like, if you have, like, an anti - Donald Trump joke, that's fine.
[78] For sure.
[79] But it's got to be funny.
[80] It's got to be just, it's, like, there's no room for that.
[81] Like, it used to be that comics could have, like, these rants where they made, like, really important points inside of fun.
[82] And it wouldn't be funny.
[83] And people kind of accepted it.
[84] But that's what a podcast is for.
[85] Sure.
[86] This is a new world.
[87] We live in a new world.
[88] I go to an action movie.
[89] I don't go to an action movie to get a massage.
[90] No. All of a sudden, when you're in the action movie, someone comes over a massage.
[91] Do you need to relax?
[92] You need to be less tense because you're really concerned about this action film.
[93] It's really not relevant.
[94] Well, yeah, what's like watching a porn?
[95] I don't give a shit.
[96] about the story.
[97] I fast through, you know what I'm saying?
[98] I fast forward to the good stuff, man. It's like I need them.
[99] Some people do like the story.
[100] Some people watch for the story.
[101] They want these people to be in love before they fuck.
[102] Or they want them to be escaping a bad relationship and mommy issues.
[103] I don't know.
[104] I'm just saying there's a place in time for it.
[105] Like, do you see Dave Chappelle on Saturday Night Live?
[106] Yeah, that was great.
[107] That was great.
[108] Funny.
[109] Made a good point.
[110] Yes.
[111] But he's also supportive.
[112] Exactly.
[113] It's brilliant.
[114] Dave's a master.
[115] He's the best.
[116] And he's the best.
[117] And it's also a very sincere person.
[118] Like, one of the things that is driving me crazy about a lot of this tweeting and craziness.
[119] Like, I was in New York City for the fights, and me and my friend Cam Haynes, we went to the gym.
[120] And young Jamie was there, too.
[121] But you weren't with us when we were stuck in the swarm of humans, just me and Cam.
[122] We got to the gym, no problem.
[123] But on our way back, the protest had marched through the area that we walked through, and all of a sudden we couldn't go anywhere.
[124] It was just jammed with people.
[125] you're literally shoulder to shoulder with people like just everybody's touching everybody there's just you had to deal with it there's nothing to do it which is one of the reasons why a fanny pack is so important folks because you keep your money in your front okay nobody's pickpocket in you everything's zipped up my shirt goes over that sense I'm gonna know I'm gonna know to reaching in there it's gonna take some work because pick pockets do go to those things you need to be aware if you're one of those super lefties it likes to go and demonstrate you shit jacked so while we're walking this one guy with this perfect manicured beard.
[126] I'll never forget.
[127] He had a really nice, like, wool jacket on.
[128] He was, he was obviously, like, a wealthy liberal character.
[129] And he's screaming out.
[130] I mean, screaming in my fucking ear.
[131] He's right here.
[132] He's, he's touching me. He's touching me with his shoulders.
[133] He's like, Donald Trump, KKK, racist, sexist, anti -gay.
[134] And he wouldn't stop.
[135] He wouldn't stop.
[136] And part of me wanted to go, hey, man, could you just like, if you want to go in the protest the protest is in the street like you're on the sidewalk this isn't the protest yeah this isn't this is some non -committal shit you're doing here like if you want to be out in you're all in but he's like he's doing drive -bys he's like a walk -by screaming protest but does it really do anything he saw a black guy in the distance i swear to god he starts going he shut up black lives matter black lives matter oh hell no yes he did oh hell no he was so obvious he's just trying to get everybody to join him what my friend michael shirmer likes to call virtue signaling.
[137] That's what it is.
[138] He's peacocking his virtue.
[139] And just trying to get everybody to jump on going.
[140] Let the world know.
[141] I'm sensitive.
[142] There was a woman with a sign that said rape Melania.
[143] Jesus.
[144] Yeah.
[145] And apparently that's - Think about writing that thing out.
[146] Crazy.
[147] Here we go.
[148] It's a hashtag on Twitter now.
[149] Here's what's crazy.
[150] Here's what's crazy.
[151] Twitter allows that hashtag.
[152] Twitter doesn't allow Hillary for prison.
[153] what check that make sure that's correct how bias is that make sure that's correct because that's what I've been reading Jamie doesn't think he's mine well you hashtag Hillary for prison look if there's any tweets and then hashtag that's ridiculous dude there's pictures of people with those signs I don't think it's just one person and there's a bunch of people who used it who called themselves like as if somehow or another if Donald Trump is a misogynist somehow or another the way to get it him back is to rape his wife or even to suggest raping his wife?
[154] What kind of message are you spreading if you're posting that and you're in a protest, you're making a sign of that bullshit?
[155] It's fucking scary.
[156] What does it say?
[157] This is Hillary for.
[158] Hillary for prison.
[159] I searched and there's a lot of stuff that pops up.
[160] Okay.
[161] Well, they might have banned it since, unless that's recent.
[162] Maybe they banned it before.
[163] Well, maybe this guy doesn't know what he's talking about and I just read some nonsense.
[164] Maybe I just read some nonsense.
[165] Maybe.
[166] But all of its, it wouldn't be the first time.
[167] all of it is just bullshit well just bullshit there was so many so many angry angry people and um well how many celebrities were like um if trump wins i'm out of here you ain't going nowhere did you see the the fucking um signs that people have made some artist made for uh you know those benches for bus station benches where they have the billboard in the back of it for real estate sales it's a real estate sale and it's all these people who said they're going to leave the country it's their face like it one of them share that's awesome I think Amy Schumer's got one of them, too.
[168] Everyone says that.
[169] You're not doing shit.
[170] You're not going anywhere.
[171] Amy said she was going to move to Spain, but she's a fucking comedian.
[172] You know, she's like, I guess I'm learning Spanish or something.
[173] You know, that's just like what a comedian would say.
[174] So, you know.
[175] People freak out.
[176] People are all mad.
[177] But what she said is that, like, you know, you're just as disgusting as the people who voted.
[178] The people who actually expect me to move are just as disgusting as the people who voted for that anti -gay woman.
[179] hater or whatever whatever she called them but series of insults she's just so upset and then obviously she's performing that she's doing theaters or stadiums even big ass places big ass places so yeah arenas i mean she's killing it she's building to canada election day sale meanwhile here's what you need understand if you do those are great by the way if you do wind up moving to canada when you move to canada you realize that canada has a very similar immigration policy to what donald trump is proposed It's very strict.
[180] It's very strict.
[181] It's incredibly difficult to immigrate Canada.
[182] You don't just do it like that.
[183] You don't just go over there and all of a sudden you live there.
[184] I mean, maybe if you're Amy Sherman, you got some cash.
[185] Maybe.
[186] It's still strict.
[187] People don't realize how strict it is.
[188] It's fucking strict.
[189] Yeah, I'm just going to go to Canada.
[190] No, yeah, bitch.
[191] It's essentially very similar to what Donald Trump is proposing.
[192] Like, here's the thing about Canada.
[193] And I love Canada, by the way.
[194] I'm a huge fan.
[195] They're like some of my favorite people in the world.
[196] When you go to Canada, if you have a drunk driving thing on your record, you can't get in they fucking send you home it happens all the time yeah it's a big deal with the ufc too with american fighters if you have anything you do the chance of you getting up there getting cleared because customs is strict as shit yeah Kevin James got into you know just a standard fist fight once uh when he was younger and uh I believe he was like I believe he was arrested but no charges were filed and was all dropped it was one of those you know there's a brawl and he was a part of it and he got arrested with a couple other people No big deal.
[197] It's something a young guy did.
[198] He's up there to fucking do just for laughs, and they flag him for it.
[199] Turned him around?
[200] Eddie Bravo went up there.
[201] Eddie Bravo legally was carrying a gun, legally.
[202] Because he was, no, no, no, listen to me. He was working for a cash checking business.
[203] This was way back in the day before I even met him.
[204] And Eddie used to have to carry around large sums of cash, and he had a license to carry a pistol because of that.
[205] So he gets pulled over for, like, speeding or something.
[206] And he tells the cop, he goes, hey, man, just so you know, I work for a check cash in company and I carry large sums of cash and I have a pistol and it's loaded and it's in the car.
[207] And the guy goes, okay, well, step out of the car, give me all your paperwork and this now.
[208] I'm going to have to handcuff you while we check this out.
[209] So they check it out.
[210] They go, yep, you're all good.
[211] They let him go.
[212] So nothing, right?
[213] No charges.
[214] Nothing.
[215] to get pulled into immigration.
[216] If I said I was with him, if I said I was with him, they pulled me into immigration too.
[217] I got stuck there.
[218] Dude, I got stuck there for a fucking hour and a half once.
[219] They might not let his ass in because the conspiracy is like, we just can't.
[220] Tower seven.
[221] We just can't, sir.
[222] At our live shows, we keep getting.
[223] So do you and Eddie hate each other?
[224] How's it work?
[225] And then I'm like, get out of here.
[226] I love Eddie.
[227] And then someone started literally a chant, Tower seven, Tower seven.
[228] It's so weird.
[229] Did you see that fucking meme with Tony Ferguson when Tony Ferguson beat Hafeld dos Anjos.
[230] Eddie Bravo is saying something.
[231] It's like when your boy just wins his fight, but you have some new information about Tower 7 and he's like, he's all up in his inch.
[232] So alert.
[233] Whoever made that is brilliant.
[234] There it is.
[235] I fucking love Eddie.
[236] Me too, man. Listen, Eddie's my brother.
[237] Anybody that thinks I don't love Eddie, you're crazy.
[238] Oh, I agree.
[239] Whatever nutty things that he believes that I don't believe, I don't give a fuck.
[240] I love that dude.
[241] No, yeah, I still love him too.
[242] He's my friend.
[243] He's just bat -shit crazy in his kind of way.
[244] I still like that flavor that he's delivering, you know what I'm saying?
[245] He's so into it.
[246] He loves it was text nonstop about it.
[247] Yes, he sends us group texts.
[248] Do you see the latest one he's putting on Twitter about some, it's grainy footage that looks like it was invented back when the fucking wheel was invented.
[249] It's grainy footage of some guy talking about some sex parties they used to have what children used to fry.
[250] Well, bro, Hiller's not Satan?
[251] You don't really think she's Satan?
[252] I don't man I find it hard to believe and it'll lash out at me I'm sorry Satanic cults when you see shit like eyes wide shut though don't you want to know like you hear about like this skull and bone stuff that used to do at Yale yeah that shit's real yeah like that is real so like I would I wonder like if you grow up in the Hamptons or you live in like one of those crazy Connecticut towns where all those super billionaire hedge fund characters live and all their kids go to the private schools that get sent to these big fucking universities and you get pledged do a fraternity because your dad was in it and you know there's a lot of that shit going on yeah they're called the skulls right that's like the elite is it bones i thought it's just the skulls no well there probably that might be a movie yeah well maybe it's a movie they would never invite us into that stuff they're like they just won't shut the fuck up no we tell them anything they're chatty kathies yeah you tell them anything they just blasted on their shows yeah we would we can't have them on we would never no yeah there's no anybody thinks we're getting in on the luminary just i get accused of that so much because of the flat earth people the flat earth people believe I'm a paid chill I know I get it too Oh you're just going to leave the UFC and step right into that You don't think that's the Luminati working You don't think he's part of it Rogan dragged him into it Yeah man you don't think I would chat away on my show about it What would be hilarious is if there really was Some sort of giant organization That was paying people off to lie about the earth being flat That would be amazing If like we were able to keep it that hush hush If the world was flat this whole time And all these people that claim to be flying around it In the big circle People have navigated the globe in a plane They've flown over it In a plane And they're all in on it They're all getting paid Everyone's in on it You go over their house Ferrari, minks, disco Everybody's party and you're like Where'd you get all this money?
[253] Shut the fuck up dude Shut up, just from a boat Going around the world?
[254] Yeah man It's all flat earth money Flat earth denial money It's huge This is the world that he Bravo lives in He hasn't quite gone flat earth.
[255] Flat Earth pulls him back.
[256] He started messing with it a little bit, though.
[257] He did.
[258] He did.
[259] But he went dinosaurs aren't real.
[260] Dinosaurs aren't real.
[261] And the moon is fake.
[262] We've never been to the moon.
[263] Well, not only that, all the footage of NASA, all the NASA footage is fake.
[264] NASA's full of shit.
[265] And then the bands, all the bands, like the Beatles, the doors, all that stuff.
[266] And right up here in Topanga Canyon.
[267] The thing is, though, if you know Eddie, Eddie's a fun dude.
[268] And half of this stuff is because he enjoys it.
[269] He enjoys looking at conspiracy.
[270] He's just like, and look, some of them are true, right?
[271] True.
[272] That's the problem.
[273] That's the problem.
[274] That's the real problem.
[275] The real problem.
[276] Some are true, so he has an argument on some stuff.
[277] But it's hard for, he's so balls deep in the conspiracies that it's hard for him to.
[278] Yeah.
[279] It's like, he's so balls deep that he's bent over like a clothes pin and his, he's like his ankles are in.
[280] Yeah, he's all in.
[281] What is this?
[282] That's a nice tower.
[283] Be ashamed.
[284] to someone knocked it down is this recently yeah he just posted he's probably listening to us he's so hilarious he's so funny he's so crazy but the thing too he's passionate about it so people think when him and i discuss it or any of us discuss it you know and he's so passionate about he's not arguing with he's just like like if you really think something's true you're like come on man that's that's eddie well here's my take on a lot of the shit there's not that much time.
[285] You don't have much time.
[286] You have 24 hours in a day and you got to sleep for eight.
[287] So that's not a lot of time for me. And if I go down these goddamn fucking rabbit holes, that shit will take forever.
[288] I've done it with, I've done it with legitimate things.
[289] I've done it with, you know, like archaeological fucking discoveries where I'll just start reading up on some crazy temple that they found in Cambodia.
[290] And I'm two and a half hours later, I'm, you know, researching this.
[291] And I'm like, God, I got a shit to do.
[292] I got shit to do.
[293] So, like, for me to do that about ghosts.
[294] That's basically what some of these conspiracy theories are.
[295] Like, you just don't.
[296] I also just, I mean, what am I going to do?
[297] What am I going to find something on the internet and no one else is found?
[298] You know what I'm saying?
[299] Like, I'm fucking Nickas Cage from National Treasure.
[300] Like, I'm not going to go on this weird escapade finding something no one else knows.
[301] And I can just ask Eddie, because he is a fucking double blackbell and conspiracy theories.
[302] He makes you watch you.
[303] videos, though.
[304] Yeah, he tried to get us to do one during the last fight companion.
[305] He tried to put one on.
[306] Dude, it's only five minutes.
[307] Five minutes.
[308] Five minutes during a live podcast?
[309] I can't do it.
[310] I can't do it.
[311] I don't have it in me. I don't have it in me. I forget what that one was about.
[312] Something about money or something.
[313] I don't know.
[314] Or Tower 7.
[315] He loves it.
[316] He loves it.
[317] It's a sport to him.
[318] But, you know.
[319] That's what he's into.
[320] Yeah.
[321] I don't have time anymore.
[322] And people go, oh, he fucking sell out now, bro.
[323] Fucking sell out.
[324] No?
[325] Well, no. sir no if you solve the kennedy assassination it will not help your life but it's also not on the internet hey tell you it's probably not in some chat room you're in it might be on youtube you just got to find the video you just got to go down deep enough you're gonna about 600 views so far but if we can get it out there someone sent me a fucking three hour one just two days ago well three hour Kennedy assassination one i'm like i don't i can't simply too long can't do it anymore can't do it and if they do figure it out it would be interesting but i don't i don't see how they could i think they're never going to get past where they're at right now there's like some evidence there's some non -evidence there's some speculation there's some there's that zepruder footage there's some shit but is there any expert like actually open the case back up like do they really give a shit can't there's not enough evidence right now like current physical evidence yeah so it's not happening it's over yeah they wouldn't do it anyway because who are you going to try.
[326] But also, who gives us shit?
[327] He's dead.
[328] Yeah, everyone's dead.
[329] Yeah, what are you going to do?
[330] Yeah.
[331] What are you going to do?
[332] All right.
[333] Still doesn't bring him back.
[334] It's all so fucking weird.
[335] Because we know the government does a bunch of fucked up things.
[336] We know they do.
[337] But it's spending time trying to figure it out.
[338] So what I was thinking when I saw Trump sit next to Obama, I wonder if Obama told him how much work he has to actually do.
[339] That's why he looks so fucked up.
[340] Because Trump was sitting next to Obama and he was just, he looked like, Jesus Christ.
[341] He looked like, Like, he was like, what?
[342] I think it hit, it hit him during that meeting.
[343] Obama's like, this is my daily life.
[344] Here you go.
[345] And he's like, holy.
[346] Look at him.
[347] This is what it says.
[348] Trump reportedly surprised at scope of new presidential duties.
[349] Surprised at scope.
[350] God's hilarious.
[351] Well, it's like you have 100 jobs.
[352] There's a reason why they age so hard.
[353] It shouldn't be, one man shouldn't be responsible for it.
[354] I mean, I think you've spoke about it before.
[355] We'd have one guy with that much power and to have all that on his pressure.
[356] It should be a committee of just straight geniuses that figuring it out.
[357] Well, man, if you want to look at the bright cloud, if there's any bright cloud about Donald Trump being in office, is that he doesn't, he's an outsider, a complete outsider.
[358] He's not a politics guy.
[359] And so we'll get to see just by watching them like sort of duke it out what shape they take, you know, we'll get to see like what, what's, what's, what's, we'll get to see.
[360] get a better view of the mechanism behind the machine than if Hillary Clinton was in office.
[361] Don't you think with, I think people are going to be surprised at how little power he's actually, the president actually has.
[362] Probably.
[363] Because they think he's going to do all this crazy stuff.
[364] And then people are like, nah, bitch, it doesn't work like that.
[365] You have to jump through all these holes, the House of Lake State, all this stuff.
[366] Yeah, well, that's what's going to be interesting, too, is to hear him talk and complain about that and see what happens.
[367] And it's going to be interesting.
[368] We've got a culture battle going on right now, too.
[369] Like all those people marching down the street screaming, not my president.
[370] Not my president.
[371] Not my president.
[372] He is.
[373] He is, though.
[374] I hate to tell you guys.
[375] He is.
[376] Well, he's the.
[377] You know, you don't, like, get, you don't, the president doesn't become yours.
[378] So it's not yours.
[379] Well, if you live in the United States, though, he's the president of the United States.
[380] So, look at me. Do you say my president?
[381] Do you say my president?
[382] I do you?
[383] No, I don't.
[384] No, I don't.
[385] I don't.
[386] No, I don't.
[387] I don't.
[388] No. I don't.
[389] Look, I think this is what I've been saying, that we go.
[390] Not my president.
[391] I live in a whole new world of my own.
[392] It is weird.
[393] Yeah.
[394] What?
[395] I don't know, man. It's probably, look, I think this is what I've been saying, that we go like this and we go like that.
[396] We go right and we go left, and this is how people always have.
[397] When they go back and forth, the country goes back and forth.
[398] We try it one way we don't like it.
[399] They said he was supposed to be at USC 205.
[400] Well, his son was there.
[401] Which one?
[402] Donald Trump, Jr. God, they're not going to win any awards for good looks, are they?
[403] You're not a bad -looking guy.
[404] Really?
[405] The youngest one or the one who's, like, killing it?
[406] There's one who's got the hair slick back, darker hair.
[407] I'd have to see him.
[408] He's a nice dude.
[409] Is it?
[410] Was he cool?
[411] He's, I've been, actually, I knew him from a while ago.
[412] He's friends with a friend of mine.
[413] Oh, really?
[414] Yeah.
[415] So the family's going to have to take over his other business adventures while he's president.
[416] How about that?
[417] The whole thing is so crazy.
[418] So weird.
[419] It's so crazy.
[420] Looking at him up there, it's so crazy.
[421] Then how many of them were going to live in the White House?
[422] Do they know?
[423] I don't know.
[424] Isn't it weird?
[425] Yeah.
[426] Like, could all of them live if they want, or is there like a cap?
[427] Like, dude, you can't only bring two.
[428] You can't be up in there.
[429] Do you know who I fucking love?
[430] love who is that sheriff that black sheriff the words the cowboy had everywhere sheriff what the hell's his goddamn name the one out of Dallas I think he is we're speaking about the same dude he's always he's always yes yes something Clark is his name Clark I think he retired did he well he didn't retire from like Fox News the dude's always on I wonder for talking about the same guy maybe here I'll find him because I just start what is it David Clark his name's David Clark bro Sheriff David Clark Eric Holder is the attorney general you fuck You're non -American Very anti -American How do you not know that You don't know who Eric Holder is How dare you?
[431] I like to do that when I know someone Or other people don't know I go how the fuck do you not know that bro Yeah he's uh he's a fucking character That guy He says he wears a cowboy hat in honor of his What is his family members of Dallas Cowboy So he wears a Dallas Cowboy hat everywhere He wears an actual cowboy hat.
[432] That's an aggressive, sir.
[433] There's a crazy picture that he posted of Donald Trump winning the Ellis Island Award in 1989, standing next to Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks.
[434] Damn.
[435] It was award for contributing to the conditions of inner city black youths standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks.
[436] No one talks about that.
[437] Yeah.
[438] Well, what doesn't help Trump is like the head of KKA was like, we got, we basically got him in there like we support them we're the ones that we're the reason got in there he had to come out like I don't I'm not cool with that KKK stuff man like that's not me Donald Trump KKK racist sexist anti -k hey it's that kind of catchy though I wanted to tell him man go out into the street but I was worried I was literally worried and if I said it he'd be like you fucking racist what did you you a Trump supporter like he was so his vitriol was and then they're gonna jump all up on you and then someone's like Joe Rogan No, I'd say just go to the, come on, man, go over there.
[439] Get over there, man. Go over there, everybody's actually protesting.
[440] Don't make me get Cam Haynes get his fucking bone around and start fucking murking people.
[441] We didn't be able to draw back, son.
[442] There was no room to draw.
[443] It was just, it was so crazy how many people were there.
[444] It was just strange.
[445] Just to protest, thousands of people.
[446] New York's busy as it is.
[447] But it's, you know, the cops broke it up, like cops were screaming and shit.
[448] So it was like that being there at the weekends with the biggest fights in history, all of it was just so crazy.
[449] it was a that was a nutty scene man being there in the wayans felt surreal it felt just like finally it's it happened yeah it was like it was crazy like the weight of the event was thick in the air it had this feel to it that was very different than any other show we'd ever put together dang i wish i was that that's the one show i wish i was that because it's so special it's gonna be tough to beat that but it'll never be you mean you'll have big giant events for sure but it'll never be like that because that was the last block yes corruption correct that was standing in front of the UFC, getting into New York.
[450] I got a little worried when I saw, where was I, I think, I was in Atlanta doing a live show, but I saw on the Twitter, like the crazy press conference with Connor doing that stuff.
[451] I'm like, no, I'm not, and it was kind of weird.
[452] I was like, well, it seems a little gimmicky, blah, blah, blah.
[453] And then the way in see, he looked a little more serious.
[454] And then the night of the fights was like, I mean, you couldn't have written a better show.
[455] I mean, the fights, the night, the way everything happened, it was amazing, man. By far, the best UFC I've ever seen.
[456] By far.
[457] The main event was almost, it was almost bizarre.
[458] It's almost bizarre how good Connor is.
[459] Almost bizarre, the way he picked apart Eddie Avres.
[460] Almost bizarre.
[461] Like, magical.
[462] That's almost the word I want to use.
[463] Correct.
[464] Like, he touches motherfuckers with that left hand.
[465] Have you ever seen Eddie Avres just, like, they didn't even look like they were in the same planet.
[466] Like, one guy looked like he was from Mars.
[467] The other guy looked like you're just a normal dude trying to figure it out.
[468] Well, it looked like Eddie, the moment he got hit was like, what the fuck?
[469] You could see on his face, he was like, holy but Jesus, what am I doing here?
[470] And then he goes, well, all right, he's not very good at wrestling.
[471] Let me try this wrestling.
[472] And Conner's like, that was your shot?
[473] Oh, bro, you're in for a long night.
[474] I think Eddie realized like, holy fuck.
[475] Well, he's already touched up a little bit when he finally went in for the shot.
[476] You know, and I just think Connor knew then also that he had him.
[477] And how calm was he?
[478] Ridiculously.
[479] Just calm up.
[480] right and just waiting and then the accuracy of that combo that finally finished eddie that's what i think makes connor so specials is his accuracy when he throws punches eddie's moving as he's laying in this stuff i've never seen anything like like you said it was straight up magical i'm like all right well we've never seen a guy like this we just haven't i don't know if we ever well either it's really interesting too when i was interviewing him it's like you've got to have some attributes if you want to beat me you got to be tall you got to be big give me these guys my size what what he's doing though it's so he's a once in a lifetime guy because he's setting the ceiling like there's no there's no boundaries for him like he's just like I'll fight Nate at 70 I'll 45 sure I'm Merck Aldo in 13 seconds and I'll come to 55 like we've never seen this kind of creativity and we've also never seen the UFC allow someone to do this either yeah well he's just such a unique personality it's undeniable but also his style in a lot of ways he kind of does a lot of like like what Wonderboy does, but with less kicks.
[481] Like he throws kicks to the body, he'll throw like some front kicks.
[482] I mean, you know, like maybe 70 % as many kicks.
[483] Wonderboy is a little more kick heavy.
[484] But it's that sideways style.
[485] And he's, but he, I think he does it better.
[486] Like there's maybe something about the focus of the shots that he's landing, the precision of them.
[487] Because Wonderboy very rarely, like, touches somebody up like that with a punch.
[488] He just doesn't have that kind of power.
[489] Yeah, you're right.
[490] I think Wonder Boy is better at surprising guys with his kicks and his angles, but Connor sets it up and he's landing combos that are all so precise in this power.
[491] Like he's touching dudes, and you can see it on their face.
[492] He touched Eddie, and Eddie's like, what the f?
[493] Well, not only that, he's like he's hitting him in a surprise way and he's not telegraphing it at all.
[494] Like his ability to like go from bouncing around to launching that shot is so quick.
[495] it's so precise and it's so focused and there's no fat in his movements it's just yeah and they said there's going to be a big announcement afterwards and obviously he's a girl's pregnant which I mean it's a personal big announcement for him but I think he says he's going to take time off and he wants a piece of the pie he wants a piece of WME and what you know what they're doing now which which is hilarious right I love it me too I love it and he's the first fighter ever that can talk like this how old is he was kind of 26 maybe 27 26 you got to think 28 I think he's a smart guy too I don't I mean I would hope at least I don't see him fighting deep into his 30s no especially the way he talks because he goes now that I have a kid I know what I bring to the table I want to be set financially for the rest of my life you guys want me to fight again yeah I mean you need to be set for the rest of my life I want a part of this pie and he's his next fight and it's gonna be such a fight is with WME it's not with anyone out there If you think he's fighting Ferguson or Kabeeb -necks, you're bat -shit crazy.
[496] That's not happening for a very long time.
[497] Maybe.
[498] Maybe they're working out.
[499] I don't think so.
[500] I think the next fight, again, I don't know.
[501] This is just me going off whatever the hell I think, Joe.
[502] But I think his next fight would be Nate for the belt at 55.
[503] Because if you think, if you like Kabeb and Tony, they're both deserving, and we're MMA purists.
[504] We're balls deep in MMA.
[505] We love it.
[506] And one of those guys deserves it.
[507] As far as numbers and in a big pay -per -view, it would have to be Nate, I think.
[508] Do you really think they would do Nate again?
[509] 100%.
[510] I don't think Nate or Conner will fight Unless it's if it's that's the if that has to be the matchup I think Connor will fight someone else I think Connor might even fight Woodley You I think you'd see a fight with Woodley before you see Khabib or Ferguson I think Kabeep or Ferguson will fight each other before anything else Do you know how fucking crazy it would be if he decided to go up and fight Woodley It's so nuts obviously Willie has to get through Wonderboy again but Does he?
[511] It has to You think so Well Dana said that's the that's the that's the media He said a lot of shit.
[512] He said Habib was fighting for the title.
[513] It's a good point.
[514] And he was like, nah.
[515] Me, sure you're fighting for the title, nah.
[516] Yeah, he does that all the time.
[517] I don't think that means anything.
[518] That's a good point.
[519] Yeah.
[520] I'm just going based off what your boy said.
[521] He was like, that's the next rematch.
[522] Like, how you put it on me. Well, more of your friend than mine, you're real, you've worked one forever.
[523] I'm really good friends with him.
[524] Yeah, yeah, I like Dane.
[525] I just think, you know, you have a closer relationship.
[526] So I say, you're a boy.
[527] But he does say things and pulls back.
[528] Yeah.
[529] If Woodley and that's there This is the other thing you got to worry about though Not you don't have to worry about something to think about How much power are they going to give Connor 45, 55, 70 just wraps up all these Dude, do you know how crazy that would be if he did it though I say let him do it let him try The UFC's going we can't he's going to take this bitch over Woodley will say let him try Fuck yeah Woodley is say let him try Woodley would love that You know big Woodley looks compared to him Gidgenormous It's so bizarre looking at Woodley inside the octagon He's the most jacked dude I think, other than Yowell Romero.
[530] Yowell?
[531] He's in there.
[532] He's in there.
[533] Oh, they're one and two.
[534] Yeah.
[535] I think it's an interchangeable.
[536] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[537] It depends what you're into.
[538] But Yowel flies through the air.
[539] Yowel does backflips at the beginning of every fight.
[540] At the beginning of every fight, he goes into the audience, or he goes into the cage, and he does backhand springs and literally launches himself through the air and lands on his feet.
[541] Like it's the Olympics.
[542] Yeah.
[543] And it's a solid landing.
[544] And he's 200 pounds.
[545] Correct, sir.
[546] And he's flying.
[547] Flying.
[548] lying.
[549] He's the freakyest freak athlete ever.
[550] And loves gay Jesus.
[551] Yes.
[552] Gay Jesus.
[553] Michael Beesping.
[554] I love you.
[555] I love you, Michael.
[556] You do that to me. I love you.
[557] Someone needs to help him with his marketing, right?
[558] No, no, don't change a word.
[559] No, but he lost so much, he lost so much fan support when he said, uh, for, for, for, what did he say for the gay Jesus?
[560] No, he did.
[561] We thought he said gay Jesus, but he said, don't forget.
[562] Jesus.
[563] But his broken English was so bad.
[564] People went bad on him so fast.
[565] They did.
[566] And then he kept calling Bisbing boy.
[567] Yeah, I like that.
[568] Well, it's okay because he's a black guy.
[569] I like that.
[570] He's allowed.
[571] If Bisbing did that to him, we got some shit on our hands.
[572] Cannot say that to a man of color.
[573] No!
[574] He does talk like that.
[575] Don't forget Jesus.
[576] He's so scary.
[577] Poor Weidman.
[578] In New York, hometown, needed to win bad.
[579] They only get no love in New York and then just a fucking knee from Cuba just to your dome piece flew flew through the air and as he hit him like he was flying over him afterwards but you know that was insanely impressive but you know what was almost as impressive is the way he took Wybin's back he tripped him he's they tied up together he trips Wyedman throws him to the ground and then spins around behind him and takes his back like the trip how about the world class trip oh yeah Pryor's just trip no no that's world class level trip Wyman's an absolute monster.
[580] And he was just Kadoosh!
[581] He was throwing him around.
[582] He was showing him the difference between a wrestler from the Olympics, a guy who meddled in every single world tournament he entered.
[583] And built like a Ninja Turtle.
[584] Dude, he's ridiculous.
[585] You know, he has like a fused disc in his neck.
[586] I would assume.
[587] He had a serious injury in his neck, just like Wydman has.
[588] But Wydenman had a dysectomy.
[589] Wydenman had surgery.
[590] He did.
[591] So, Yowell has a big scar in the back of his neck.
[592] You could see it.
[593] It's like a big slice.
[594] It's all stitched Just like Ving Rhames from Pulp Fiction.
[595] Very different, but...
[596] You know what I'm saying, though.
[597] Sin Scar, black guy.
[598] Well, it's, yeah, it's...
[599] You know, I've seen it before on other guys, but spinal surgery is fucking no joke, man. I had Wydenman win that fight until then.
[600] He won the first round, but you thought he won the second round when Yoel was throwing him around?
[601] Uh, not winning, but I thought as the fight would go on, it would help Weidman.
[602] I thought in the second round, Yowell started implementing his wrestling, and I thought he was running away with it.
[603] And then in the third...
[604] So it would be one -one, right?
[605] Yes.
[606] I thought it was one -one.
[607] Yes, one -one.
[608] But I thought it was like shocking how good his wrestling was in comparison.
[609] And we know that Wydman...
[610] He doesn't show it.
[611] Yeah.
[612] Very rarely.
[613] But when he does, dudes go flying.
[614] I don't know.
[615] He doesn't use it more.
[616] Because he's having fun.
[617] Having a good time!
[618] Dude, for real.
[619] At first, when he was talking stuff to Bisming, I'm like, God, that's a terrible fight for Bism.
[620] God, that's terrible.
[621] And then it hit me. I'm like, five rounds?
[622] Bisbing really doesn't initiate in that grappling and he has cardio for days, that's a tough fight to call.
[623] At first of all, like, Romero's going to fucking destroy Bismarman.
[624] I'm like, not really, though, if you think about it, not really.
[625] Who knows what could happen, but Dan Henderson caught Bisping twice bad in their last title fight at 45 years old or whatever it is.
[626] He did catch him really, really bad.
[627] And Dan Henderson, who is one of the most ruthless power strikers in the game, for sure.
[628] And Bisping survived that.
[629] So that's good for Bisping that he was able to survive that, you know.
[630] You've got to think, Yo -O.
[631] Romero doesn't just have a right hand.
[632] He flies.
[633] He literally launches himself at you.
[634] If he gets a hold of you, the wrestling ability.
[635] Dan Henderson's a silver medalist in the Olympics as well.
[636] But it's different.
[637] It's different.
[638] Different.
[639] Especially Dan right now.
[640] What's Dan?
[641] 48?
[642] I think he's 46 or 45.
[643] He's up there either way.
[644] But Romero's basically, you know, in his prime as the MMA fighter.
[645] Well, also, there's, like, the range of motion.
[646] Like, Dan's almost, like, locked up.
[647] Some would say stiff.
[648] Yeah, he's got, but if he hits you, you're Fuxville.
[649] But he's, like, his range of motion is very limited, where his Yowel is, like, a super athlete.
[650] He doesn't have any limitations in his range of motion.
[651] He's ridiculously flexible.
[652] Like, he does, like, a half split before he fights.
[653] He was, like, down there, like, stretching out.
[654] You're like, this guy's range of motion's insane.
[655] Those knees and the flying knees, though, a lot of it, especially with Wyman came from, Weidman going for that single leg.
[656] He's like, go for that again and see what happens.
[657] Yeah.
[658] And where Bisming doesn't entertain the grappling at all.
[659] That's true.
[660] That's true.
[661] And he stays on the outside and he also has that beast of a coach.
[662] But right away, I was like, oh, God, that sucks.
[663] Because I love Bisping.
[664] I'm like, God, that's a bad fight for him.
[665] I was sitting there, I'm like, well, cardio, five rounds.
[666] If he can survive those first two, maybe three, dragging the lake water.
[667] It's a fun fight.
[668] Definitely watch that bad boy.
[669] I mean, you can't, it's hard to do MMA math, right?
[670] You do style matchups, though, right?
[671] Yeah, yeah.
[672] But I was saying, like, Bisping lost to Tim Kennedy, Tim Kennedy lost to Yol, but Tim Kennedy was beating Yowel.
[673] Like, that's another thing that Yol's Corner did this fight that was fucked up, man. They covered him with water.
[674] They threw water on him while he was sitting there resting.
[675] Between first or second?
[676] Uh -huh.
[677] They put an ice pack on him, and he poured water on himself.
[678] He poured it on his legs, he poured it on his arms, he poured it all over him.
[679] and they wiped him down.
[680] I mean, he was trying to cool himself off, probably.
[681] Yeah.
[682] But you're not allowed to do that.
[683] And they spent time wiping him down before the round started.
[684] So, like, they wiped him down in between the corner, but then the referee stopped it and made them wipe him down more.
[685] So he gets more rest.
[686] Yeah, look, for sure they're aware when that happened with Tim Kennedy.
[687] When Tim Kennedy had him fucked up at the end of that second round, he absolutely and on purpose stayed on that.
[688] stool longer than he was supposed to.
[689] Some would say it was a smart move.
[690] Obviously, it ended up working in his favor.
[691] It's smart if you're a cheater, if you're okay with cheating.
[692] But it is cheating.
[693] It's cheating.
[694] It's cheating.
[695] 100%.
[696] Yeah, you have a lot of it.
[697] And the referees should have probably stopped the fight, but I'm sure Big John didn't want the fight to end.
[698] Didn't want to cheat everybody out of the fight and just wanted to get back up.
[699] But then you cheat Tim Kennedy, who is done one person you don't want to cheat out of this.
[700] And Tim is walking around, like, yelling while this is all going off.
[701] Pissed.
[702] Yeah.
[703] The whole thing was a mess.
[704] It was a mess.
[705] That was a cluster fuck of a moment But it just shows you This guy has a massive amount of experience In international competition in wrestling And there's like a lot of shit that goes on in wrestling You know where you have to take advantage Of whatever you can to win You know And all these years of high level competition On the international scene He's probably got a bunch of little tricks like that He could do to slow down the pace Or give himself a little extra time And what people go oh What's 15 20 seconds 15, 20 seconds for a guy like Yo Romero to replenish.
[706] Giant.
[707] I mean, you're talking.
[708] Giant.
[709] Night and day difference for a guy like that.
[710] And I think it was also 30 seconds with the Tim Kennedy fight.
[711] If I remember, maybe 23.
[712] I felt like it was longer than that.
[713] I don't remember.
[714] Talking about Stoolgate.
[715] Yeah, stoolgate.
[716] But also then there's a psychological issue because Kennedy now thinks the fight's over, is it not over?
[717] Like, he doesn't know where he's at.
[718] There's nothing worse than that when you think the fight's over and they're like, oh, no, no, no, back in, man. That's what always kills me about.
[719] Glory when they have that extra round, we go one more round.
[720] Imagine you get through three rounds of kickboxing and then finally you're drinking water.
[721] You got your arms up and referee says blah, blah, blah.
[722] And it's all a draw.
[723] Well, think if you're Tyrone Woodley.
[724] Think if you're Woodley.
[725] Well, how about Bruce Buff for fucking it up where we what was going on there?
[726] What was going on?
[727] Because you were like, whoa, whoa, everyone chill.
[728] You were like chill.
[729] Yeah, yeah.
[730] Well, here's what was going on.
[731] First of all, Bruce said it wrong.
[732] It was not a majority decision.
[733] It was a majority draw, but they probably wrote it down wrong form.
[734] Look, New York does not do any MMA.
[735] They've never done MMA before.
[736] No shit.
[737] It's the first event, right?
[738] It's never been legal.
[739] Exactly.
[740] Exactly.
[741] So they do this thing where they tally up the score cards.
[742] They give it to Bruce, and I guess it's said majority decision, Tyron Woodley.
[743] They read two judges scored a draw.
[744] One judge scores it for Woodley, and Woodley retains the title, but it's supposed to be a majority draw.
[745] Yes.
[746] That's what the majority of people thought it was a draw.
[747] So it's a majority draw so bruce said it wrong whether they gave it to him wrong i don't know um real steve harvey moment yes and then they and then tyrant freaked out and then the audience booed the audience went crazy and i said dude you still have your title just hold and i was and they wanted bruce to say it again so bruce says it again i was going to say it again on to the microphone yeah but they're like and bruce insisted he get the mic and he says it again and he you know because he wanted to correct the mistake so he says it again and then i have to say the the audience is booing i'm like because this is the exact same score.
[748] Yes.
[749] It's the exact same score.
[750] It's just the wrong definition.
[751] Just read, wrong, yeah.
[752] That's all.
[753] I think it was probably pretty accurate, too.
[754] I think it was right.
[755] It's before it, I think maybe with 10 seconds off, I look at Brian, I went, I bet you anything.
[756] It's crazy.
[757] And I even tweeted out before this, I think it's a draw.
[758] Brian goes, no, championship match.
[759] I go, I feel like it's a draw.
[760] I give that a 10 -8, and then I scored the other rounds.
[761] I forget how I scored him.
[762] I think it's a draw.
[763] Some people didn't give Woodley a 10 -8 for the fourth round.
[764] because at the end of the round Wonder Boy was on top of him That's insane Yeah, but I say If a bully beat down If anything, if he didn't do that If Wonder Boy didn't get out And wasn't on top It might be a 10 -7 Because not only did he hurt him With big punches Then he almost choked the life out of him I mean he had him in a deep guillotine And people were telling me That wasn't a good guillotine Like you are out of your fucking mind You're insane Have a guy as strong as Woodley May let's say his position's a little off He's not to the side Let me just say that for the record And what round is it?
[765] What round was that?
[766] Third round.
[767] Third round.
[768] So your cardio already.
[769] Fourth round.
[770] Fourth round.
[771] You're already exhausted And you have that 170 pound monster around your neck.
[772] And he's not 170.
[773] No, he's every bit of what?
[774] Probably 200 pounds.
[775] And by the way, he's a brown belt.
[776] He's a brown belt in jiu -jitsu.
[777] Do you think Tyron Woodley doesn't know how to choke people?
[778] You're fucking crazy.
[779] It was a very good choke.
[780] And I was amazed.
[781] Me too, man. One of the thing I was thinking was like, Wonderboy has a skinny -ass neck.
[782] And tiny head.
[783] Yeah.
[784] Smaller head than me. And the small head thing is more than me. I have a tiny head.
[785] Woodley said, Woodley said, well, I knew he had a little head.
[786] Did he really?
[787] And I was like, oh, shit.
[788] I didn't even think about his head.
[789] I was thinking about the size of his neck.
[790] He has a slender neck, tiny head.
[791] Isn't it amazing the human body can take that?
[792] Like, how did his head not rip off?
[793] How did his neck not break?
[794] That's what I'm saying.
[795] Woodley's so strong.
[796] Can you imagine if he won by broken neck?
[797] I guarantee you, if he had that in the first.
[798] round he probably wouldn't be able to finish it but how tough is how well yeah i see what you're saying yeah but but it would have been yeah different story how tough is wonder boy though ridiculous and i and i've and this is and i know wonder boy with same manager we've trained together a bunch love the guy i've always and this is just me i've always questioned his toughness because he does come from a privileged family like they have this huge taekwondo academy in south Carolina and he has a great home life and his dad's his coach and his brothers are studs Taekwondo's or just karate?
[799] I'm not sure.
[800] I think it's just karate.
[801] Is it just karate style?
[802] Yeah, you're probably right.
[803] One of those.
[804] But he has this huge school.
[805] You know what I'm saying?
[806] Very successful.
[807] Yeah.
[808] Been to dinners with his dad and the whole family.
[809] Like, God, this guy has everything going for him.
[810] So when I see that, it's like, you know, it's the Calabasasas thing.
[811] Like, you never seen, the tough skin calabas isn't going to do shit in the UFC.
[812] It's just when they're privileged just like that.
[813] So when the going gets rough, I've always kind of questioned Wonderboy.
[814] And I've never seen it, though.
[815] Because the Matt Brown fight, you know, his last loss and, It was back and forth as a scrap.
[816] I'm like, all right, whatever.
[817] This fight, man, I was, and I was watching with fans, I was standing up clapping.
[818] Like, what is going on right now, man?
[819] What's the fuck you're talking about?
[820] It was a crazy fight.
[821] And there was a lot interesting.
[822] First of all, how fucking hard is Tyron Woodley hit?
[823] Jesus Christ.
[824] What?
[825] God's name.
[826] He has one of the best straight right hands in the business.
[827] And if it lands, I can't believe Wonder Boy didn't get knocked out.
[828] Unbelievable.
[829] Well, I mean, he's a guy who's fought in professional kickboxing.
[830] He has a 57 and.
[831] Oh, combined kickboxing record amateur and pro.
[832] I guarantee he didn't fight anyone that kickboxing circuit that punches as hard as Ironwoodley.
[833] And not with four -ounce gloves either.
[834] Exactly.
[835] He can punch faster with those little gloves on and it hurts more when it lands.
[836] So let's say Dana does do the rematch.
[837] They don't do Connor Woodley.
[838] And they do do the rematch.
[839] I was thinking about it.
[840] Three titles.
[841] Three titles.
[842] But the focus me third belt.
[843] But Woodley was a slight underdog.
[844] And if you listen to Duke Rufus who was talking about.
[845] about their game plan.
[846] I think it was talking about the post -fight press conference.
[847] Their game plan, and you even mention it, you're like, I don't get why Tyrone is against the cage.
[848] And I didn't like it either.
[849] I'm like, what's he doing, he's getting murked?
[850] That was their game plan because...
[851] Well, do you know he does that a lot?
[852] Yes, he does that a lot, and Wonderboy's a counter -striker, so they wanted to bring him to Woodley.
[853] That was their thinking, by him being against the Cade and do all that, and then get him to commit to take him down.
[854] Right.
[855] So they kind of, it surprised Wonderboy a little bit, but in the rematch, I think it favors wonder boy so much more because now he knows woodley's going to fight like that he might not fight like that he might not fight like that so then he so and this is my thing here i think the ability to change and and and be more dynamic is in wonder boy's favor yeah sort of you know what i'm saying yeah i mean in a way but here's a thing woodley only took him down once in the whole fight and mauled him once you got him to the ground which is why wonder boy didn't tee off what if what if one what if woodley decides to do that every fucking round you know i don't know i don't know how much Wonderboy can stop Woodley from taking him down.
[856] Woodley's so much bigger, so much stronger, and a way better wrestler.
[857] If Woodley takes him down like he took him down in the first round, I mean, that might have been the strategic error, because Woodley mauled him in the first round.
[858] By the end of the round, his nose is fucked up, he's got a giant cut, he's leaking blood.
[859] Correct.
[860] And Woodley just held him down and dominated him on the ground.
[861] So if he just does that in the round two, I mean, if he was able to do that instead of try to stand and knock him out, he might have been able to stop him.
[862] Correct, but the reason why he got to, that takedown is based off those kicks and then wonder boy stopped kicking as like he wasn't looking for the knockout so that makes sense like he was so hesitant after that so and i feel like the reason he got that was because of the kick so i think wonder boy can't make changes more of changes to win the next fight maybe it's all up in maybe who knows but i'm saying as far as game plan wise i think it favors wonder boy yeah but here's a thing now that tyrant knows like wonder boy's timing and he's be able to rock him, he's going to have some serious confidence in launching that right hand.
[863] But go ahead and move forward on Wanda Boy, see what happens.
[864] Yeah, but sometimes it works.
[865] I mean, he's been able to take him down.
[866] Other people have been able to take him down.
[867] And when he gets him down, like the difference in the grappling was pretty fucking evident to me. Oh, it looked like a white belt versus, you know, just a experience.
[868] He's so much stronger, it's so much better at holding him in place.
[869] I was like, man, if this fight goes this way, Woodley's going to run away with it.
[870] That was what I thought after the first round.
[871] Me too.
[872] Me too.
[873] He busted him open, bad.
[874] Bad, man. And then when you're dealing with Wonder Boy, you're dealing with that weird sideways stance and just popping that jab in his face.
[875] Hands down.
[876] Hands down.
[877] He's a weird guy to spar with.
[878] The other thing is Wonder Boy, he didn't let his hands go at all, at all.
[879] That left hand and, like, he's so good going South Paul traditional.
[880] He can go back and forth, but it was all kicks for him.
[881] Well, I think he was worried after that taked down and getting busted up of even, you know, opening up.
[882] Getting taken down again.
[883] But, you know, Tyrant's a totally different animal, too.
[884] He's a different animal than Johnny Hendricks.
[885] Great athlete.
[886] Yeah, and the Johnny Hendricks that Wonderboy faced, let's be honest, he's not the same guy.
[887] Not even close.
[888] He's just not.
[889] No, I don't know.
[890] He's not the same guy that knocked out John Fitch.
[891] He's not the same guy that knocked out Martin Camman.
[892] He's just not.
[893] No. For whatever reason.
[894] Speculate all you want, Internet.
[895] Yeah, for whatever reason.
[896] Yeah, I mean, maybe it's motivation, maybe it's personal problems.
[897] He changed camps, who knows?
[898] He opened up a steak restaurant, and then it went out of business.
[899] Terrible idea.
[900] But maybe he just terrible ideas, sir.
[901] The worst?
[902] If you're a celebrity and you got some cash, maybe the worst idea.
[903] Yeah, restaurant's not the way to go.
[904] Hey, I'm tired to be successful.
[905] Yeah.
[906] And happy.
[907] I'd rather be stressed out and broke.
[908] I hate money.
[909] Do you have a restaurant I can invest in?
[910] That's, I mean, it's a terrible idea.
[911] Even if they just put his name on it, he's still associated with that failure.
[912] And I'm sure he had to have some form of commitment to it.
[913] I'm sure you got a sign while people eating fucking T -bones for 30 % off or something like that.
[914] The, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the Yahoo and Yelp reviews, rather.
[915] There Were they bad?
[916] They were the worst.
[917] It was like one star.
[918] We can't be associated with that, man. You can't.
[919] Like, if you want to open up a restaurant and you're a celebrity, good luck.
[920] It should be like a really small place.
[921] Or you'd be a silent investor.
[922] Like, don't be, don't be the face of it.
[923] Well, there's a bunch of places like that in L .A. 100%.
[924] Yeah.
[925] A gang of them.
[926] Like our boy, Travis Barker, he owns Crossroads.
[927] You don't see Mark and stuff like that, but it's like, and obviously not your cup of tea, but it's a all vegan restaurant.
[928] Her restaurant.
[929] It's like the number one place in L .A. As far as vegan goes.
[930] They're killing it.
[931] Yeah, yeah.
[932] But you don't see him blasting out there like his face on the front of the restaurant.
[933] Right.
[934] Fucking playing the drums while they're serving up spring rolls.
[935] Oh, they were calling it the Big Rig Steakhouse.
[936] God damn it.
[937] Well, that's some Texas shit.
[938] Yeah, it's Texas shit.
[939] It might work in Texas, right?
[940] Big Rig steak.
[941] Well, hey, man. I might get a T -Bong from Big Rig.
[942] What if it was awesome?
[943] You know, what if you do out there, it was insane.
[944] No, it doesn't.
[945] Has that ever worked?
[946] Well, I guess, you know, Elway did it.
[947] John Elway did, his Elway Steakhouse and Denver kills it.
[948] Really?
[949] That's a fine steak, though.
[950] Ted, Ted has him.
[951] Who's Ted Turner?
[952] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, true.
[953] Shanahan's has it.
[954] Bison meat and shit.
[955] Yeah, it's a tough gig, man. Rocky did in the last one.
[956] But it's also for an athlete, especially a fighter, where your mind, and first of all, you have this event that happens, and I don't have to tell you this, but for everybody listening, it takes months before the event.
[957] You're thinking about this event.
[958] You're preparing for the event, and then the event is one night.
[959] anything that can fuck your head up along the way should be avoided yeah you shouldn't be thinking about getting mass discounts on T -bones and fillet you should be really worried about wander boy anything anything that can fuck you up you know there's so many different things that can creep into your mind well look at mecha tate yeah and i'm not taking anything away from pennington i thought she looked brilliant she did her job i thought there was a real bad matchup for misha honestly i think pennington super underrated she's she's underrated she's underrated for sure i also think that version of misha i and i i just said that's misha doesn't look into it or something else is going on she's on an off night she didn't look like the normal misha we're used to seeing and for misha for her to say yeah i'm done i i think i couldn't hear it because again i was watching with a live crowd so i couldn't hit but she retired correct yeah she said what she said she's just like i'm out yeah she says i just want to say i'm done i'm done and i said was this based entirely in your performance is it something you planned and she said no it was based on my performance And then she said that I just I've taken a lot of punishment and that's fair man that's fair And she's also to me. She's someone you you want your daughters to look up to like she's such a great face for women's MMA just because obviously she's a beautiful young lady probably the best looking one in the UFC but she also she speaks very well she has the skills you're talking about a lady who if you would have told her she'd been champ in the UFC you know after you've seen her fights with ronda in these other fights, she, I'm sure she'm like, you're full of shit.
[960] And she just came back from the adversity.
[961] Like, when she beat Holly, amazing, man. And for her now, there's so much more for her to do.
[962] This is why I'm proud of her and her getting out when she did, because I don't know if you've heard her break down fights as a female analyst.
[963] She is so damn good.
[964] It's ridiculous.
[965] She's very smart.
[966] She's very smart.
[967] She's very good at breaking down the fights as far as not like Joe Rogan style, Brian Stan style, Dom McCruistyle.
[968] She's good as a, as a, as a, as a, analyst when she's up there with like Stan and bisming those guys and have you had her on your show we have not had her on her show I listened to her on your show and I thought she was brilliant she's got her own show now too she has she has her own podcast yeah well she's already doing it the right yeah but um I think for her man like sky's the limit I really do I think you're right I think you're right and I think if she really you mean everybody always says that if you have one foot out the door you should just walk just go there you go here and that's why you set me down here well you know you're like excuse me sir you're telling jokes in trying to fight right now well it's one thing watching somebody who you don't love who's just like well you know or even you do love you don't have that close a relationship with but as a friend you know you have a close friendship with someone you see the path i mean it's one of those things man you see it time and time again i i can name you a hundred guys that i know that are kind of half in the game oh yeah and they still do it and every now and then they get knocked out or they'll fight some yair rodriguez type motherfucker some upcoming phenom and get lit up and All -in.
[969] Yeah, those all -in guys are fucking scary.
[970] Yeah, and, you know, for me, it was the best thing that ever happened me in my life, so.
[971] Well, I think it's probably going to be the best thing for Misha, too.
[972] And one of the things that I said to Misha was like, you know, you've already achieved the highest achievement ever in the UFC.
[973] So, like, you know, that no one could ever take that from her.
[974] She won it in spectacular fashion, and it was an amazing accomplishment.
[975] That's a giant thing to have on your resume, former world champion.
[976] And she's at the perfect time just talking about from business side of things is the, The UFC's contract with Fox is coming up.
[977] So what they're going to do, from my understanding, is it's going to be on multiple networks.
[978] So it's going to be like the NFL or NBA or whatever, these other sports leagues, where they're not just tied to Fox, which opens up the door for ESPN, CB, all these other networks.
[979] So that opens up the door for all these other shows for her.
[980] So if I'm Misha Tate, I don't sign with Fox right now.
[981] Granted, she's the best female analyst in the game to me. I think she waits to that deal goes and then fields all the offers and she has the time to do it.
[982] She might or UFC might offer some sort of an in -house gig.
[983] You know, who knows?
[984] And I'm saying don't do that.
[985] Don't do that for her.
[986] If I'm a manager, don't do that.
[987] Let them play the negotiating game and she has so many talents and no one's coming along like her who speaks or looks like her.
[988] Yeah, isn't that happening with you guys?
[989] Isn't there a network issue?
[990] Yes, there is a network issue.
[991] Some sort of an issue with you guys being on Fox?
[992] Yeah.
[993] Well, for us, it's just Brian goes Don't talk about that on Rogan And before I'm like we got to talk about it Yeah And you know what I'm an open book man I'm like do what You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to No I know we always talk about it For me it's just You know I'm always I'm always in the understanding of We don't need anybody And you've always said that And I think The Fire and the Kid fan base And what we've achieved has literally Nothing to do with Fox You know they gave us a studio and I'm grateful for that stuff, but we would be here with or without them, you know.
[994] The studio is not that big a deal.
[995] You rent office space, a lot of guys.
[996] We all know people that do it.
[997] Tom and Christina do it.
[998] Joey Diaz does it.
[999] I do it.
[1000] A lot of people do it.
[1001] They just rent space.
[1002] Correct.
[1003] It's not hard to do.
[1004] No. And, you know, our biggest issue would be finding a good producer to help us like a young Jamie.
[1005] All you would have to do is put out the ad, throw the bat signal up online.
[1006] I'm sure this will call.
[1007] Well, here's the bad signal.
[1008] Yeah.
[1009] Yeah, here's your bad signal.
[1010] We're looking for one.
[1011] Yeah, I mean, if you find someone who knows how to handle the internet side of things, and I'm sure Jamie can help them.
[1012] Yeah.
[1013] What's going on today that's really interesting in podcasting, and we've kind of talked about this before, but is that the real network is the organic network between friends.
[1014] Correct.
[1015] It's between all of us, between Joey and Bill Burr and Burt Kreischer and Tom Seguer.
[1016] We're all just a bunch of friends, and we talk about each other, and we have each other on, and everybody, finds out about each other from each other and we retweet each other and re -instagram each other and support each other and that's like a real network where there's no like deals going on there's no paper signed it's and then everybody's sort of benefiting from it equally everybody gets something out of it you know that's a real network this other thing is a weird business where non -creative people capitalize on the work of creative people and they provide you with what a fucking series of walls and an internet connection oh thank you for you definitely should get half the money you out of your fucking mind yeah that's exactly what i said i it's just a different age now that that that we're going into and um it's it we're in a good spot that's a good thing we're in a good spot and uh we have offers from all these other networks and stuff like that so that's all good and the most important thing is just you guys love what you do and the show's fun that's the biggest yeah and then people are going to still enjoy it so it's almost like think about it as little as you can, I guess.
[1017] For me, I see it as an opportunity.
[1018] Like when we were discussing it today, I was excited.
[1019] I'm like, oh, yes.
[1020] We kind of get our Joe Rogan on now.
[1021] Yeah, you got to do that for sure.
[1022] A lot of guys have done, you know, my friend Dave Rubin, who was on last week, he had a similar situation.
[1023] He was with one network.
[1024] He left that.
[1025] He went with another network.
[1026] And he was like, what the fuck am I doing?
[1027] And I told him, I'm like, dude, just be free.
[1028] Just get out there.
[1029] Well, I think what people don't realize is, like, all the guests, the marketing the merchandise like i have i've hired our own booker we've had our own public like it's all in -house it's all whatever i want to do with it like we literally just show up to the studio yeah i can't imagine how they thought that they'd get 50 % of that it's insane it's so crazy it's insane it's just maybe they just don't know how much money it is they don't i was literally laughing like physically laughing like oh you have how you guys resolve it how'd you end it now it's off to the agents call my agent like there you go man first of all they should have never brought you in in the first place at all that stuff supposed to be done with agents they're not supposed to bring you in and talk financials with you with no representation correct however i'm very and if to almost to a fault i'm very uh in on as far as the business side things go with firing the kid like i want to be involved now now when it goes to negotiate all right you guys do that yeah you if you want to change the logo from a maroon to an orange you better fucking go over it with me if you if you do something without me knowing, then we have issues.
[1030] Do they think they can do that kind of shit, though?
[1031] Do you think that they would start doing that if they...
[1032] They did it once, and I was like, what?
[1033] What did they do?
[1034] They changed something.
[1035] It was some logo, they tweeted something out that I didn't approve.
[1036] And you can call me a control freak, but...
[1037] So this is like, the network did that?
[1038] Fox did that?
[1039] Yeah, well, they have certain people run the accounts, you know?
[1040] So they just decided that they were going to do that?
[1041] I'm like, oh, what are you doing, man?
[1042] You know what I'm saying?
[1043] So...
[1044] Well, that's, you're in a weird gray area.
[1045] You know, you have your own show.
[1046] You have a very limited amount of people.
[1047] that are in charge of that show, but all these other people that are sort of used to, like, if they have a show, they get a say.
[1048] I mean, I remember when they were telling you not to swear.
[1049] Yeah.
[1050] Oh, no, they sent us for a while.
[1051] That's what I told you guys to go get free.
[1052] I'm like, you've been saying that forever.
[1053] You can't do.
[1054] No swearing.
[1055] What?
[1056] I know.
[1057] I know.
[1058] It makes the audience like almost you think they're stupid or they can't handle the swear words.
[1059] People are getting upset.
[1060] It takes away everything that's great about the internet.
[1061] What's great about the internet is you just, you could be yourself.
[1062] You'd be yourself, but also what, what they don't realize and again it's just an old school way of thinking they don't realize how big podcasting is getting because whether I'm at Fox I'm in Joe Rogan's bathroom doing the podcast the listeners just want the audio you know they just want the show they don't do what fuck who produces it I got a little microphone that I hook up to this fucking thing to my that's what Bill Burr does dude it's amazing just goes off his iPhone like a mania and it still works Mark Marin does that his garage for God's sakes that's a president in his garage yeah well he's actually He's got a pretty sweet set up.
[1063] No, he really does, but you get the point.
[1064] Yeah, I'm going to try to find this shit in here.
[1065] I'm going to show you what this thing is.
[1066] Yeah, it's just a different kind of day and age of media, and we're in a good spot, man, so I'm happy.
[1067] Yeah, dude, I just don't think that this, I'll find it later, but anyway, it's a microphone that stits in here and it has a built -in little tripod on it.
[1068] I think it's called an apogee or something like that here.
[1069] You ever used the Zoom mic?
[1070] Yeah, those are good.
[1071] Yeah, Brian and I started a Zoom mic in his garage.
[1072] Yeah.
[1073] all those these it's just you don't need much you don't need much i mean we're obviously we're trying to go the freaking jaree experience and then jami told me how much that goddamn mothership board is over there you know what we'll probably i'll probably see if i can get that at uh goodwill or something like that sweat this this little thing right there sweat this see this little jammie this little microphone i take this little microphone i screw it into here this little baby here is a little fucking tripod that it sits on it all comes in this little case I popped that sucker down You could set it up in a hotel room Damn son That's what you did on the plane When you were with Dana and Tony No on the plane with Dana and Tony I didn't even have this yet Damn the thing's dope Dude it's the shit You tighten it down What's it called?
[1074] It's called an apogee or something like that I set that up And it's a real live condenser microphone And it picks up all the voice is clear It does it all through your phone That's really dope It's incredible This is all you need Like you don't need all this other shit We do all this other shit Because even way way way back in the day I was like, why wouldn't we have a visual element of it?
[1075] Why wouldn't we have like a, we were doing the streaming version of it even, even actually before we were doing anything else?
[1076] Visual is big, though.
[1077] And our YouTube, you know, we need the visual aspect of it for sure.
[1078] Like, you can't downgrade now.
[1079] But also for us, it's just, yeah, you just want to continually get better.
[1080] Keep working, baby.
[1081] I can't believe that they didn't fire us.
[1082] I have to say it's some outlandish shit on that show.
[1083] I can't believe Foxxin, like, listen, we just can't have it.
[1084] I don't think they know the numbers.
[1085] Yeah, they know the numbers.
[1086] That's one thing they do know.
[1087] Correct.
[1088] Because you're on their network.
[1089] So they're like, Jesus.
[1090] You know, there's not another thing that they have that gets to kind of download.
[1091] There was a time there when I, especially right when I retired and I was like, you know, I was angry.
[1092] I was angry at certain things, man. I'd lash out on the mic and stuff like that, especially in there, they're obviously in cahoots with the UFC.
[1093] So how they didn't fire me, I have no idea.
[1094] Well, I think the worst thing could be that they did fire you.
[1095] It's actually smart that they didn't.
[1096] Because you know what the Streisand effect is?
[1097] Yeah, like when UFC now banned me and I went howling like a little owl to everybody.
[1098] Or, you know, there's a bunch of examples of things like that that have happened where someone gets bigger because like Milo Yiannopoulos, you know he is?
[1099] Yeah, he got banned from Twitter, right?
[1100] He got banned from Twitter because he was making fun of Ghostbusters.
[1101] It became bigger than ever.
[1102] It became like this cultural alt -right icon because of that.
[1103] It's publicity you can't pay for.
[1104] Look at Ariel Hwani.
[1105] bad example, Ira Hwani.
[1106] You remember when the UFC banned him, kicked him out and they went on all those networks.
[1107] Yeah.
[1108] UFC was like, my bad, my bad, you're back in.
[1109] Yeah, for a little while.
[1110] Now he's out again.
[1111] Is he out again?
[1112] Yeah.
[1113] Why is he out again?
[1114] Because of the Brock Lesnar thing?
[1115] Remember when...
[1116] Is he out again?
[1117] I thought he was in New York.
[1118] I don't think so.
[1119] Was he there in the arena?
[1120] Did he give press credentials?
[1121] I don't know about me. I saw him walking around.
[1122] Oh, he was fired from Fox.
[1123] That's what he was fired from Fox.
[1124] Yeah, yeah.
[1125] No, yeah.
[1126] But not fired from his show and doing the UFC media.
[1127] So he's banned from being in the UFC media.
[1128] media for a little while and then they let them back in it works yeah but the thing is in dana's defense and the uc's defense is the NFL you know that certain leagues do that they don't they don't allow certain people in so it's not you know like as much as north korea as we thought like there's there are leagues who ban guys from coming to the events hmm well i don't know i don't know what the fuck the NFL does so it's not even worth me talking about it.
[1129] How about Habib Nuremberg -Metoff?
[1130] What a fucking scary monster that guy is?
[1131] But here's the thing.
[1132] He did get clipped though, didn't he?
[1133] He got clipped.
[1134] Michael Johnson clipped him.
[1135] And I'm watching that.
[1136] I was like, what would Connor do to this kid?
[1137] Right?
[1138] Because before I'm like, Connor would get murked by Khabib.
[1139] And I saw him like, well, if Johnson lands that, you bet your sweet -ass Connor's going to land that.
[1140] Yeah.
[1141] That magical left hand.
[1142] I'm done question what Conner's capable of.
[1143] Because I was like, Eddie's a tough matchup.
[1144] I think he's going to win this one.
[1145] I do.
[1146] God damn.
[1147] I'm scared for this.
[1148] fight.
[1149] I kind of want to see him fight Woodley.
[1150] I'd love to see him fight Brock Lesnar.
[1151] I want to see him take six months off.
[1152] I want to see him take six months off and bulk up.
[1153] You know what's crazy?
[1154] A little bit of meat.
[1155] It's not that outlandish to see that fight.
[1156] That's very possible.
[1157] Oh, no, it's not.
[1158] It's totally possible.
[1159] The hiccup in that is the UFC's like, do we just let him get all the belts and all the control?
[1160] Like, where do we stop it?
[1161] Before he's running this belt.
[1162] You have to give up one of his belts to take on another one.
[1163] He needs to get him up 45.
[1164] Give up 45.
[1165] He has, 45, he's never going to fight there again.
[1166] He might.
[1167] Ew, that cutdown's tough, what matchup.
[1168] But the cut's different now because you're allowed to begin your rehydration much earlier.
[1169] You can weigh in at 8 o 'clock in the morning, 8 to 10 in the morning.
[1170] So by the time the ceremonial weigh -in rolls around, it was in New York City at 6 p .m. He was full.
[1171] I mean, he looked great.
[1172] He didn't look dehydrated at all.
[1173] At 55.
[1174] But even at 55, he used to look dehydrated, right?
[1175] Not too bad.
[1176] 45, he looked near the door of death.
[1177] And also.
[1178] That's right.
[1179] We've never really seen him at 55 in the UFC.
[1180] We haven't seen him in cage or some other organizations.
[1181] 45, it just, I don't see how he even makes it.
[1182] Even his camp's like, dude, it's way too tough on him.
[1183] Just let that belt go, though.
[1184] Now, you did your thing, let it go because you're keeping that division hostage.
[1185] You got Pettis, Max Holloway coming up.
[1186] It's funny.
[1187] I think it's hilarious, too.
[1188] It's funny because it's not my life, though.
[1189] But if I was Aldo, I'd be fucking freaking out.
[1190] Aldo, who's the champ forever, wants that rematch so bad.
[1191] It ain't happening.
[1192] Is he really retiring?
[1193] He retired and then thought he was going to go do something else And he was like And he thought the UFC was like oh okay Do your thing And then he realized how tough those contracts is And he came back like well Looks like I have to fight Let's do it you know like Who's he gonna fight?
[1194] I don't know The winner of Pedersen Holloway Holloway's been knocking on the fucking door For a long time man Nine straight How he doesn't He just needs a bigger name He just he needs to get more famous That's the day and age we're in He just has to get famous Or get on the mic talk some shit I'm really interested to see him versus Pettus Because Pettus, I think it's real diminished by that cut I agree That's a hard cut for him to get on 45 And I love Pettus man I'm a huge Pettus fan But he hasn't looked the same as of late Max Holloway's a slick motherfucker too You realize it now After you watch Frankie Edgar and Jeremy Stevens fight You realize how slick Holloway is Holloway was never in trouble in that fight Never and then also think about His last loss was Connor McGregor Had a jacked up knee but it went to decision.
[1195] The only decision Conner's had in the UFC.
[1196] And think how much better Max Holloway is now.
[1197] Yep.
[1198] If he wins this one, dear God, if someone's listening get that kid a title shot.
[1199] Yeah.
[1200] What's he have to do?
[1201] I know.
[1202] What do you do with Tony and Khabib, though?
[1203] You're talking about two crazy win streaks too.
[1204] Like, how do you even...
[1205] Just make him fight?
[1206] Yes.
[1207] That's what I think.
[1208] You make them fight.
[1209] Make them fight.
[1210] But let's say you have to pick one of them if Conner's like, I'll fight at 55 in three months.
[1211] Who the fuck wants some?
[1212] Well, Well, right now, before that fight, Tony Ferguson was the number one contender.
[1213] Rightly so.
[1214] Just beat Hafeel Dosanjos, beat a shitload of guys.
[1215] Because he's so active, you're saying?
[1216] He beat Edson Barbosa.
[1217] He was the number one contender, according to whatever the rankings are, which I don't think are accurate all the time.
[1218] Those are a toss -up.
[1219] Some of them kind of suck.
[1220] But the second position right now, if he's still number one, it's clearly Habib.
[1221] Habib was number one, but Habib's been way more inactive than Tony.
[1222] But the way Habib mauled Michael Johnson, I think he makes his case.
[1223] They both have a case They both have a case One's on defeated One's on knife fight win streak And then Tony You know I thought he dismantled RDA I thought he looked great Amazing Kabe absolutely ragdalled Dosangos 2 And then fucking make Destroy Johnson It was horrible watching him beat up Johnson You know Because he's so good at tying up that one arm He ties up the one arm And then fucking smashes you with the other hand His arm was pinned He's got one arm Try to protect him and he's getting just thumped in the head.
[1224] Then you had to hold that chicken when you're gonna snap that bitch off.
[1225] Yeah, it's not good.
[1226] I thought he was too.
[1227] But they both tap, please tap.
[1228] Please tap.
[1229] It was like brave heart.
[1230] Just come on, man. It was so deep.
[1231] It was so deep, too.
[1232] I was thinking, when Nag and Frank Mirfall, that's what I was thinking.
[1233] I was like, this is going to snap.
[1234] But like, same with hands over there.
[1235] You refuse to tap.
[1236] I get that.
[1237] You're Brazilian jiu -jitsu to the day you die.
[1238] Michael Johnson, let's go ahead and tap, though, sir.
[1239] Yeah, that's not you.
[1240] I'm glad he tapped.
[1241] Me too.
[1242] I was literally squeezing my, hands together when I was doing the commentary I'm like come on tap come on tap just sweat now thinking he's just when he got him down and then immediately slid right into mounted guillotine I was like Jesus Christ his grappling is ridiculous so good his grappling so good it's confusing I don't yeah so those two fighting is the fight mm -hmm that's yeah Connor and and Habib are the fight that's the that's not happening brother I think Habib needs to get the title to get a title shot at least that's what I think I think you should I think He deserves it.
[1243] He's the only undefeated challenger.
[1244] He's a monster.
[1245] He's mauled everybody in front of him.
[1246] He hasn't had a single goddamn close fight.
[1247] He's had one moment, one moment where he gets dinged.
[1248] But you're talking, you're speaking logically.
[1249] Yes.
[1250] You're thinking guys that deserve it.
[1251] Well, we're in entertainment, sir.
[1252] Just the same way Connor leapfrogged everyone got the title shot.
[1253] Listen to what I'm saying to you right now.
[1254] The UFC is about to go to Russia.
[1255] Do you know that?
[1256] Yeah, they want to get in there.
[1257] They don't know what they're going to do it.
[1258] Yeah, yeah.
[1259] For sure.
[1260] In Russia, Connor McGregor versus Habib Nirmigaminoff.
[1261] That's what I think is coming.
[1262] Giant.
[1263] There's a lot of Russians.
[1264] Because Khabi got on the mic, right?
[1265] And was like, you know how much bigger fucking Russia is than Ireland?
[1266] Yeah.
[1267] But he's not the same star.
[1268] Well, here's the deal, though.
[1269] Russia's bigger than Ireland.
[1270] But the United States is bigger than Ireland, too.
[1271] And when fucking Connor is fighting in New York City, which is a lot of.
[1272] an hour and a half from Eddie Alvarez's house, they're booing Eddie Alvarez and he's walking to the cage.
[1273] No, it doesn't matter, Russia, China, Korea, Ireland, and Conner's the biggest star by far.
[1274] I don't know about that.
[1275] When you go to Russia, I wonder if he gets booed in Russia.
[1276] Don't you think if Khabi was that big of a star in Russia?
[1277] Maybe it's sanctioning stuff, and they are going there.
[1278] If you check my Instagram page, every time a fucking photo gets up, it's Habib time.
[1279] I agree.
[1280] I agree.
[1281] A big king.
[1282] Habib champ.
[1283] He deserves it, but there's a reason why.
[1284] he hasn't been the headliner of a pay -per -view?
[1285] Maybe.
[1286] In the States here.
[1287] Maybe.
[1288] Yeah, maybe.
[1289] But he is a fucking monster, and he is a hero to the Russian M .M .A. fans.
[1290] Correct.
[1291] This guy from Dagestan has been mauling everybody they put in front of him.
[1292] And people think, and rightly so, that he's unjustly keeping, being kept rather from a title shot.
[1293] You can't say he's been kept from a title show.
[1294] He's been injured for a long time.
[1295] That's true, too.
[1296] Who's keeping him from getting injured?
[1297] The blame not AKA, that's not Conner's deal.
[1298] That's true.
[1299] They did promise him this fight.
[1300] This was something that they said, no, Habib gets the next shot of the title.
[1301] This was something that was publicly stated, which made sense at the time because Habib was 23 and O. He's going to fight in Mass, the Square Garden for the title.
[1302] That's what they were saying.
[1303] They were talking about the Conner facts, right?
[1304] I can't have that.
[1305] That doesn't sell tickets.
[1306] Exactly.
[1307] Then Conner went, no, I want to fight that.
[1308] He'll keep you on the card.
[1309] Why don't you fight on the undercard, though?
[1310] Imagine how Habib feels when he hears that shit, man. He gets that phone call.
[1311] He thinks this is it finally.
[1312] I get the title.
[1313] I bet he went in his backyard.
[1314] and beat the shit out of that Codiak beer.
[1315] He just has a beard in the back.
[1316] You ever seen that video?
[1317] He was a kid.
[1318] He's awesome.
[1319] Yeah, he's a kid wrestling.
[1320] So much tougher than anyone I know.
[1321] He's so goddamn tough.
[1322] He's ridiculous.
[1323] His grappling's ridiculous.
[1324] I'm really interested in seeing whether or not he can get past that left hand.
[1325] And if you are correct, and that's the fight in Russia, the amount of money they're going to have to pay Connor to fight him in Russia when Connor's still the draw.
[1326] You're talking about a different ball game.
[1327] Show me the money.
[1328] It's going to be interesting, though.
[1329] Like, what other Russian badasses are there that fight in the UFC?
[1330] Did you see that Korskov just got knocked the fuck out in Belator?
[1331] Yes, which was crazy by Lima.
[1332] Dude, Lima's a bad motherfucker.
[1333] Yeah.
[1334] The Korshkov's a monster.
[1335] Speaking of Russians are in that area, not to flip the script here, but this weekend is Andre Ward versus freaking Kovalev.
[1336] Yeah, that's this weekend.
[1337] Boxing matchup in a long time.
[1338] No one's talking about it either.
[1339] I know.
[1340] I know.
[1341] I've been watching all the countdowns and shit.
[1342] I can't get enough of it.
[1343] I know.
[1344] I watched that last countdown thing they did, too.
[1345] It was on after the Victor Ortiz fight.
[1346] Yeah, Ortiz looked like shit.
[1347] Well, the duty fought was like on super survival mode.
[1348] He was terrified.
[1349] Yeah, he didn't throw any punches.
[1350] Nothing.
[1351] And they said through the whole fight, he threw a hundred and something punch.
[1352] He was so scared.
[1353] And then Ortiz would touch him.
[1354] He'd pretend to fall down because he's like waiting for the knockout.
[1355] But he also was grabbing his head saying he got hit in the back of the head a couple of times.
[1356] It was a terrible fight.
[1357] It wasn't good.
[1358] But yeah, you're right.
[1359] Right after that was on.
[1360] Andre Ward versus Kovalov.
[1361] Like the countdown, kind of their background in Andre Ward.
[1362] To me, he's just a bigger version of Floyd Mayweather.
[1363] Like, his defense is insane, but he has knockout power.
[1364] He hasn't lost since he's 13.
[1365] I give him the advantage.
[1366] Some people think Kovalov's going to win.
[1367] I don't know what the betting odds are.
[1368] I was stunned, by the way Kovalov handled Hopkins.
[1369] And I know Bernard's old.
[1370] He's 100 years old.
[1371] He's a thousand.
[1372] He looks like a turtle.
[1373] He looks old.
[1374] He's fighting again.
[1375] December 10th or 12 or something like that.
[1376] I think in L .A. I'm not going to that.
[1377] I'm not going to that, sir.
[1378] I'm not going to go either.
[1379] I'm going to be in, that's the Toronto UFC that weekend.
[1380] It's also the weekend of glory.
[1381] That's Badrari v. Rico Verhoeven.
[1382] Was that the best weekend ever besides that Hopkins fight?
[1383] That's a good fucking card, too.
[1384] Dude, that Toronto card is stacked now.
[1385] It is now.
[1386] Because you got Kennedy, Rashad, Cowboy, Matt Brown.
[1387] Yeah, Cowboy versus Matt Brown is better than Cowboy versus Gasolm.
[1388] That fight did nothing for me. Well, Gastelam's done now, man. He's in a bad, bad, bad place.
[1389] Dana says this fight 85 now.
[1390] He's missed what he said that before and made him fight 85.
[1391] Maybe he beat Nate Mark Ward at 85.
[1392] Correct, sir.
[1393] Wasn't that 85 that he fought Mark Ward?
[1394] No, he fought Markhart at 70.
[1395] Was it?
[1396] Yeah.
[1397] It was one of those fights that he beat somebody because he got sent up to 85 and then he proved that he can make the weight.
[1398] And he's blaming George Lockhart now.
[1399] No, the only person you can blame is yourself.
[1400] Like you know, man, especially being the experience is you know.
[1401] And it's so frustrating.
[1402] That shows you what kind of card the UFC 205 was.
[1403] I didn't even blink to I didn't bat an eye out Alright what's next Look at this fucking card I know Tim K. Rashad that sucks Oh my God look at this card Yeah Well now Toronto's just Stacked Gastlam is a really Elite fighter He's a very tough guy You've been a lot of tough guys I'm a big fan of that kid I think he's awesome But he needs to lose Some fucking body fat Period You're not a heavy weight You're not King Velazquez He can't walk around With that much body fat When he posts on Instagram Like a week before Or two weeks before a fight Like real Mexican dinner it's like these fucking burritos enchilada style all right man we can't have that we cannot have that sir can't do that he mean he's an elite professional athlete who absolutely could still to this day win the world title he has the skill for sure he has the skill and he's fought the guys and he beat woodley yeah did he tell him guslin gaslin he did it went to decision where he didn't fucking make weight there you go that was the decision where he didn't fucking make weight and woodley being the great guy that he is didn't take the percentage the 30 Yeah, 20, I think it is.
[1404] When your opponent doesn't make your weight.
[1405] It's 30%.
[1406] Is it 30?
[1407] 30.
[1408] Okay.
[1409] I thought it was 20.
[1410] Woodley being a great guy who he said, I don't want that money.
[1411] And he beat him by decision.
[1412] So Woodley got the win bonus, too.
[1413] But I don't know who Calvin has fought at 85 in the last few years, but he's been forced at one point in time to go up to 85.
[1414] Just he needs to fucking lose body fat.
[1415] Just lose it and keep it off.
[1416] Dude, and any time a fighter doesn't make weight, Mike Dolcey jumps out like Chris Hanson from to catch a predator.
[1417] Excuse me, want to take a seat?
[1418] You want to sit down?
[1419] And he cannot wait to tweet out.
[1420] Ah, man, it's frustrating when guys miss weight.
[1421] Yeah, he does.
[1422] He jumps on it.
[1423] He is just super thirsty.
[1424] And he's super thirsty.
[1425] Like Chris Hansen on Catch a Predator, just fucking can't wait to tweet about it.
[1426] Well, Dochey's got a whole staff.
[1427] He's got a staff of people.
[1428] He's expensive, though.
[1429] Yeah, he's got a, well, he is expensive.
[1430] Yeah, for a reason.
[1431] He's got an office building.
[1432] Yeah, I'm like an office.
[1433] Well, he's an office.
[1434] Well, he's an employee of the UFC, too.
[1435] Yeah.
[1436] Well, I think he has like nine employees.
[1437] or something crazy.
[1438] Just looking up YouTube and how to fucking lose weight and shit.
[1439] But he, that motherfucker comes out of the curtains though.
[1440] A lot of people disagree with him though.
[1441] A lot of people disagree with some of his methods.
[1442] Well, he was, he was just upset that well, he was upset for a bunch of reasons.
[1443] He made the weight, though.
[1444] But he was upset that Dolce had charged him so much and, you know, he really didn't do much.
[1445] I don't know the whole story.
[1446] I don't know the whole story.
[1447] I'm not taking sides there.
[1448] But I will tell you this, B .J. Penn's a goddamn legend so I'm siding with him usually.
[1449] He's from Hawaii.
[1450] Yeah.
[1451] I don't know what the fuck happened.
[1452] Me neither.
[1453] You'd have to be there.
[1454] Me too.
[1455] But the point is like, if you have someone who is monitoring every aspect of your weight cut, like your hydration levels, what kind of fluids you're drinking, what kind of foods you're eating, and it doesn't work out.
[1456] If you did what that guy said and the weight didn't come off, somebody fucked up.
[1457] Who fucked up?
[1458] I don't know.
[1459] It'd be the guy you high.
[1460] But let me ask you this, Joe.
[1461] If so, if, if, let's say it's not UFC two.
[1462] He missed weight by 10 pounds, though.
[1463] Which is ridiculous.
[1464] But let's say it's not UFC 205 where it's a card, not a stack.
[1465] Let's say it's a main event in Toronto with D .C. and Rumble, which before that card was pure shit besides that fight.
[1466] Now it's an amazing card.
[1467] You got Max Holloway, Anthony Pettus, blah, blah, blah.
[1468] Would it be crazy for the new UFC suits to hire nutritionists and for those, maybe just the main card, they designate you a guy to help you lose weight?
[1469] Because it's your product.
[1470] It's not a bad idea.
[1471] However, I think...
[1472] Like maybe Mike Dolce It works with everyone And he has a team Maybe it's not Mike Dolce But he's writing the plan this year diet And this person is assigned to you And they're falling up with you Because who does it hurt when they don't make weight It hurts the fighter And then it hurts the UFC too Certain cards I think an even better strategy Is seek to eliminate weight cuts Seek to cut it out of sport It's unnecessary It's dangerous It puts guys at risk Health -wise When they don't have to be at risk health -wise I think the only thing that's holding it back are championship belts and more options of weight classes.
[1473] I think if they could figure out what weight guys are where they compete at optimally, and then the same way you do USADA or USADA testing, you do hydration testing.
[1474] But how many weight classes?
[1475] You'd have a gigilian weight classes.
[1476] Yep, you have more weight classes.
[1477] But then you have boxing.
[1478] No, no, that's what's the problem with boxing, though.
[1479] It's not a problem with boxing, though.
[1480] Look, and Andrene Ward and Kovilip, they're going to fight.
[1481] Well, you have less organizations.
[1482] It's not like you have five different world title organizations and plus weight classes.
[1483] You would just have plus weight classes.
[1484] I think you would have more champions.
[1485] You'd have more opportunity for championship titles.
[1486] I like that because you have more stars.
[1487] You also have more opportunity for, you know, title bouts between guys where one guy decides to go up, one guy decides to go down.
[1488] But instead of them doing it by dehydrating themselves 24 hours out, you make a contract to fight a certain weight because that's what weight you are.
[1489] in a healthy way.
[1490] Which maximizes their skills and performance.
[1491] Yes.
[1492] And it doesn't put them at the dangers that you have from being dehydrated 24 hours out.
[1493] I think if anybody can do this, the UFC.
[1494] Well, look.
[1495] Where do you, like, how many weight classes do you have where?
[1496] It's good question.
[1497] You know what I'm saying?
[1498] Can you have 20 belts?
[1499] Well, I think boxing has that many.
[1500] And it's a real problem.
[1501] Name 10 stars in boxing.
[1502] But I don't care.
[1503] Name 10 stars in the UFC.
[1504] You want me to?
[1505] Yeah.
[1506] Ten champions.
[1507] Well, 10, I can, I can champion in former kings.
[1508] I can name champions and former champions easily.
[1509] Don't you think you could name 10 champion boxers, though?
[1510] Mani Pachial, Tim Bradley, if you want to start going on, Terrence Crawford, but UC has more stars than that.
[1511] You know, Vasily Lomachenko, you know, Vasily Lomacheco, Granada Galavkin, Floyd Mayweather.
[1512] You know, you can keep going.
[1513] You can name a bunch of champions in boxing, right?
[1514] But a lot of those guys around the same weight, yeah?
[1515] That's true.
[1516] That's true.
[1517] But, you know, you go up in heavyweight, you got fucking Klitschko.
[1518] Wilder.
[1519] I got Channing Brachan on next week.
[1520] You did it, son?
[1521] Let's go, champ.
[1522] What's up, champ?
[1523] Let's go champ.
[1524] That's amazing.
[1525] He's fighting for a world title.
[1526] He's supposed to be here today.
[1527] But he had to move it to, yeah, he's fighting for a world title.
[1528] Brilliant.
[1529] Interesting.
[1530] That's going to be fun.
[1531] Yeah.
[1532] There's a lot of heavyweight talent now.
[1533] Anthony Joshua, he's a bad motherfucker.
[1534] Fuck, yeah.
[1535] That guy in, uh, freaking New Zealand that everyone talks about.
[1536] What is Tyson Fury doing?
[1537] Uh, he's retired and clinically, like, he's suicidal and needs some help.
[1538] Mentally, he's just not there.
[1539] Whoa.
[1540] So he's out.
[1541] He's crazy, man. That dude's crazy.
[1542] I think, yeah, unique characters like that.
[1543] But I like the idea, Joe, but the problem is it's tough enough for the average fan to keep up now with the stars.
[1544] I think that's the least of our concerns.
[1545] The most important thing is to put on great fights.
[1546] Exactly.
[1547] So higher, because how much more?
[1548] Four billion.
[1549] The dehydration is dangerous and unnecessary.
[1550] No one's died?
[1551] They have in Brazil.
[1552] I think if they figured out, it can come close to the UFC.
[1553] But does it do you know that Dosanjos passed out for three fucking minutes before his fight with Eddie Alvarez, where he was unconscious and unresponsive?
[1554] But did you die?
[1555] He was on the door, bro.
[1556] But did you die?
[1557] Nobody's died.
[1558] But I think people have been diminished considerably.
[1559] And I think their performance.
[1560] Their performance suffers.
[1561] So it makes a shittier product.
[1562] I agree.
[1563] If you want to look at it from a business.
[1564] Plus, if the UFC has got, look, you could say, hey, steroids are part of the game.
[1565] Are they?
[1566] Well, not anymore.
[1567] Now they're fucking knocking on your door at 6 o 'clock at the morning and making you pee in a cup.
[1568] If they decided to do that at 6 o 'clock of the morning, they try to test people's hydration levels at 6 o 'clock in the morning every day.
[1569] And find out where your weight is.
[1570] Okay, this is what your body fat is.
[1571] This is what your weight is.
[1572] This is the lowest you can get.
[1573] You can get, you know, they'll test you out when you're fully hydrated and when your body fat is, you know, wherever the fuck you are right now, they'll say, hey, okay, right now you're 178 pounds.
[1574] Listen, the lowest you can fight is 172.
[1575] That's it.
[1576] Bro, you're going to have 1 ,000 weight classes, and certain guys won't fight each other.
[1577] I don't know about that.
[1578] I think some guys could gain a little weight.
[1579] That's no big deal.
[1580] I don't mind the idea.
[1581] I think you're right.
[1582] You're going to get great performances.
[1583] Way better performances.
[1584] I think the weight class thing is, I agree.
[1585] They obviously need to do something.
[1586] But I think right now, the easiest thing to do for them is to use whoever they want.
[1587] It doesn't have to be Mike Dolce, but a number of them and assign those to the main card guys to make sure they're coming on weight.
[1588] Yeah, but what about the guys in the undercard?
[1589] Fuck them?
[1590] That sounds crazy too.
[1591] Does it?
[1592] Because that's what they did with Reebok.
[1593] Does it sound like crazy to say fuck them?
[1594] Yes, it does.
[1595] But that's the nature of the beast.
[1596] But I think that's crazy too.
[1597] But that's what they're doing.
[1598] I'm just following the orders.
[1599] I understand that.
[1600] But I'm saying if I had the master key, the first thing I would do is say, come up with a strategy to stop weight cutting.
[1601] We're going to come up with a new plan.
[1602] And whether that new plan means abandoning world titles and making people, yes, yes, you introduce someone as a world champion, you know, whoever the fuck they are, they get to, you know, bring their world title to the fight, but whenever their next title defense is or whatever the fuck it is, all this name stuff, welter, light, feather, first of all, it's goofy because it's not the right weight anyway.
[1603] Welterweight is not 170.
[1604] It's 147.
[1605] That's what Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Ernst fought it.
[1606] They called it fucking Welterweight.
[1607] To start the UFC and just to say, well, it's welterweight.
[1608] And then Pride fucked it up even more Because they had it, it was different Like their middle weight was 203 Correct Like what the fuck is this?
[1609] It's 205 It's not 205 It's 175 Everybody knows that Heavyweight's 201 plus Yeah we grew up in boxing And the weight classes were clearly defined Why the fuck does the UFC have a 265 pound weight limit too Why are you making Brock Lesnar cut weight Or whoever the fuck a big giant dude is Like Shane, why would you make Shane cut weight If you want to weigh 300 pounds Let that fucking big vanilla gorilla weight 300 pounds Who cares?
[1610] I want to see it.
[1611] Dude, he has a matchup in Risen.
[1612] I just saw it.
[1613] Some dude I've never heard of.
[1614] I've never heard of him.
[1615] I guess he's just some fucking Middle Eastern monster.
[1616] Oh, no. He's, yeah, Olympic level wrestler and just knocks dudes out.
[1617] Oh, my God.
[1618] Yeah, I need to do research on the guy, but someone tagged me in.
[1619] I'm like, oh, my God.
[1620] I thought they were giving him Fador, though.
[1621] That's a big name matchup for Fador.
[1622] It's a tournament.
[1623] It's like Pride style where you just, like, the winner doesn't fight Fador.
[1624] or it's supposed to be like an open weight tournament.
[1625] It's dope.
[1626] What kind of work has Shane had done on his back?
[1627] He had surgery.
[1628] I know he had a disc replacement and then he had some stuff on his neck.
[1629] He had a disc replacement?
[1630] Pretty sure.
[1631] Like they put one of those artificial jammies in there?
[1632] Ah, I don't want to speak for him, but he had surgery on his neck.
[1633] He didn't get it fused, did it?
[1634] Did he anything fused?
[1635] I'm not sure.
[1636] I don't want to speak for Shane.
[1637] I know he had surgery on his back.
[1638] Yeah, yeah.
[1639] I like Risen because he'll let him take all the vitamins he wants.
[1640] It's just I mean it's just Monster Squad They should rename it Monsters Inc Well I would like Overeem to go over there too Oh me too Just get back to the old way Just do the old thing Just do the old thing Like the old time You need for Jeter in the face And ended his life Do that Yeah when he fought Todd Duffy And he looked like Some sort of a cartoon character God dog How fun was that to watch them Yo Romero looked small compared to him Yo Romero looked at him Yo Romero looks like Malnourished Next to him Your Romero looks like He has AIDS Next to Uber He's like, I gotta go lift I gotta get out of God damn I need to fucking hit the gym Uber Ream We've never seen anything like it For whatever reason When you and I get together We just fucking fucking have a love fest Over this Uber Ream That doesn't exist anymore It's like the Loch Ness monster You and I'm obsessed with this Well there's video though That's the problem There's proof It's not just like we see him And we go Oh that's the guy Stepe just knocked out No I'm telling you Stepe's a bad motherfucker No doubt about it But he's not the same guy That's not the Brock Lesner guy The guy I fought Brock No, that guy doesn't exist anymore Like I was terrified If he did, he would never lose He would never ever lose I was so scared Because I was fighting at that time I was like what the fuck would happen What if they called me up right now I'm gonna have to act sick Yeah well yeah It's interesting man That's you know the people that say That steroids don't win fights Or performance dancing drugs Don't win fights They're crazy Those people are crazy You're out of your mind You're crazy It helps a lot You don't think I could have went Uber Brown, Uber Big Brown?
[1641] Oh, yeah.
[1642] Oh, yeah.
[1643] Vonday Brown?
[1644] It helps a lot.
[1645] Venty Brown would do some work.
[1646] It also helps with your chin.
[1647] Yes.
[1648] And hopefully I could have taken that H .H. And my head would have grown.
[1649] So all of a sudden I have this Uberine body and this Mark Hunt head that'd be fucking sick.
[1650] You know what I hope?
[1651] Honestly, I really do hope that Risen takes off and becomes like pride was back in the day.
[1652] And you have these nutty, insane fucking full bore freak show fights.
[1653] and we get to see guys just jacked to the 10 side.
[1654] I could use that in my life.
[1655] That'd be awesome.
[1656] We would do fighting pants for every one of them.
[1657] Fuck yeah!
[1658] It'd be so sick.
[1659] Fuck yeah.
[1660] It'd be so violent.
[1661] It'd be amazing.
[1662] If the UFC was smart, they'd get in bed with them.
[1663] They'd be like, listen, let's bring.
[1664] Just be under the table investors.
[1665] Let's let's bring this over to a fucking fight pass.
[1666] Come on, baby.
[1667] I agree.
[1668] Come on, baby.
[1669] Hey, listen, Uber ain't want to start some shit.
[1670] How about you guys just signs and then we'll put on fight pants.
[1671] And encourage the steroids.
[1672] Say, listen, I know those motherfuckers.
[1673] You can't fight like that over here.
[1674] We're all clean and everything.
[1675] So listen, just fucking give us a little taste.
[1676] It'd be a good business plan.
[1677] We'll help you out.
[1678] Yes.
[1679] Yeah, you can watch the freak show.
[1680] You get it all.
[1681] You get it all.
[1682] And who knows, man. Japan is weird.
[1683] You know, Japan was a huge culture for MMA at one point time.
[1684] Like, at one point time, the UFC was giant over there.
[1685] And then it faded and dropped off bad.
[1686] Or, excuse me, pride was giant.
[1687] And then it faded and dropped off bad.
[1688] And Dream was kind of like the end of it.
[1689] And then now there's not really a presence.
[1690] there anymore until rising comes along so Verizon can figure out how to bring back the same sort of excitement in the Japanese culture and the Japanese people that they had when they had the pride days the glory days of selling out Saitama super arena and those gigantic places then it'd be good business for you see because then they just come in the back door like oh you like that product what's up fellas we do it bigger and better than everyone you know what I'm saying I wonder how the UFC did because didn't they do Aldo fought someone out they're not Aldo of Anthony Pettis was the main event out there, remember?
[1691] Yeah, I was there.
[1692] I was there for one...
[1693] Was it a good show?
[1694] Well, there's been more than one Japan UFC.
[1695] I've been there for one of them.
[1696] But that was the latest one, remember?
[1697] Rampage fought when I was there.
[1698] I remember that.
[1699] But I don't remember too much about that event.
[1700] I remember Pettus, I feel like Pettus was the main event and Lever kicked the shit out of someone, or head kicked someone.
[1701] It might have been...
[1702] Joe Loz on?
[1703] Yes.
[1704] That was the Japan card.
[1705] And I felt like Roy was on there, too.
[1706] Might have been.
[1707] I don't remember.
[1708] But I wonder what the numbers were like.
[1709] They kind of been too great because UFC was like, oh, we're good.
[1710] Yeah, because they haven't been back in a while.
[1711] I don't know.
[1712] I mean, look, the UFC does so many shows.
[1713] They're doing two next Saturday.
[1714] They're doing one from Brazil, and they're doing one from Belfast.
[1715] Really?
[1716] Yeah, they're doing the Northern Ireland card is Gagard Musassi versus Uriah Hall, the rematch.
[1717] It's fun.
[1718] Yeah, and then the Brazil card is Ryan Bader versus Little Nog.
[1719] And Claudia Godesia.
[1720] And Claudia Godelius on that card, too.
[1721] Yeah, and there's one more big fight on that.
[1722] Here's someone that no one's talking about in the strawweight division is Jessica Androj.
[1723] Yeah, she moved down.
[1724] She's a gorilla.
[1725] Guerrilla.
[1726] Her and Liz Karmu, she had a bodybuilding contest.
[1727] It's a toss -up.
[1728] Both of them stand in front of each other and flex it out.
[1729] I'd watch that.
[1730] I'll tell you who I wouldn't mind seeing sign with the UFC, and I don't think she needs to work on her stand -up.
[1731] Obviously, it's super amateur right now, but that McKenzie?
[1732] Oh, yeah.
[1733] Oh, yeah.
[1734] I watched her.
[1735] I think it was on HDNet.
[1736] But she fucking nodded this girl up.
[1737] I think it was a go -go -plata.
[1738] And then she got, she started a go -go -plata and then got her neck.
[1739] I mean, her grappling, I think she could come to the UFC right now at straw weight and just top five.
[1740] She's insane.
[1741] Her jiu -jitsu is insane.
[1742] It's so insane.
[1743] Her striking is super amateur, but the strawweight division's at a point where I think she could still do work right now.
[1744] And she's hot as fuck.
[1745] She is a smoke show.
[1746] She's a smoke show.
[1747] And she speaks English and Portuguese.
[1748] fluently dime PC and nasty on the ground nasty super nasty super high level black belt and uh the daughter of megaton diaz yes who's a very very well respected famous brazilian jutsu black belt and a pioneer he's one of old school guys that's her papa yeah it's amazing yeah she yeah i think she's probably eventually going to wind up in the ufc uh she's yeah she's did she make 115 yeah yeah good luck taking down the polish killer did you see the what she put on her fucking water bottle Bro?
[1749] didn't you blast it out?
[1750] Somebody...
[1751] Killer shit.
[1752] One of the guys from the underground posted it up, and then I actually wound up getting it from Joe Silva.
[1753] Joe Silva showed it to me in between fights.
[1754] It's, um...
[1755] Let me see the dude's name.
[1756] It's basically...
[1757] Syncognito is the dude's name on mixed martial arts .com.
[1758] And it says, In two days, I will fuck a bitch up and continue my violent run as champion.
[1759] I mean...
[1760] She writes that on her water bottle.
[1761] I'm just...
[1762] Straight.
[1763] cold -blooded killer I love her man dude how much that fight I was surprised first time we've really seen her in a lot of trouble like that she got cracked she got cracked I think it was a punch it was a straight punch she got hit with that I thought it was a punch the elbow like she she punched and came through with that right elbow and then she was wobbly man maybe we've never really seen her in that much danger well and the thing was the Schofchenko was getting lit up for most of the fight she's having a hard time super tough those Polish girls super tough and after the fight looked great I mean she ate a lot of punches she had a lot of kicks yeah I thought Yoanna looked worse as far as face yeah she had that big mouse on her upper eye there she got cracked with uh I think there was a couple of hard elbows in the clinch too it was a great fight but it wasn't a great fight for a while for a while it was like it looked like Valentina was just she just wasn't as fluid or effective yeah she was just hanging in there for a second she never stopped she never stopped coming forward she never stopped coming forward she never stopped coming forward.
[1764] And she was never discouraged.
[1765] I mean, she had some moments where she couldn't solve the puzzle.
[1766] And Yowana was doing a really good job of ending the combinations with leg kicks inside and outside, inside and outside.
[1767] Non -stop.
[1768] Yeah.
[1769] And all those leg kicks were, there was, there was really making a big difference.
[1770] Yeah, if you follow Yowana, though, that it was a tough fight, but Yohan definitely won that.
[1771] She said, like, her first fight with Claudia Godesia, that's a, that was the tougher fight for her.
[1772] She had a tough fight in the last.
[1773] last one with Claudea Goodalea.
[1774] Really tough.
[1775] She won.
[1776] She won.
[1777] But, yeah, she's been to some wars, you know.
[1778] Valerie Laterno, she fought that fight.
[1779] She had a broken hand, somewhere in the fight.
[1780] She kept punching with it.
[1781] She's just a murder, man. She's a badass woman.
[1782] She's a badass woman.
[1783] It's a badass woman.
[1784] She's a badass woman.
[1785] She looks like brother and sister, though, don't they?
[1786] Yeah, it would be weird if they're fucked.
[1787] She might outweigh him.
[1788] Yeah, that's a tough one.
[1789] When she's not cutting weight?
[1790] That's a tough one for him.
[1791] Yeah, she might.
[1792] Definitely beat his ass.
[1793] He admitted that.
[1794] I was like, he better admit it.
[1795] You know she'd beat your ass, right?
[1796] You know she put her hands on you, right?
[1797] Yeah, he loves her, man. She's a killer.
[1798] Killer.
[1799] That was a long -ass card, though.
[1800] And what I was watching on East Coast in Florida, dude, the cards get done late there.
[1801] It was like 1 a .m. by the time Connor was walking out, yeah?
[1802] Yeah, Jamie was there.
[1803] We couldn't get somewhere to eat.
[1804] We tried to get into the first restaurant.
[1805] It was goddamn packed.
[1806] At 2 o 'clock, 2 .30 in the morning, we wound up at Katz's Deli, because Katz's Deli's 24 -7.
[1807] It was hard to find food.
[1808] It was mobbed.
[1809] I can't read.
[1810] It's crazy how late it got down for the East Coast.
[1811] Well, New York is just different.
[1812] New York bars stay open, I think, till four.
[1813] Florida's till five.
[1814] Did you know that?
[1815] Oh, Florida was crap.
[1816] Florida was popping.
[1817] Like, everything was greater, and I was exhausted.
[1818] I was like, oh, you're going, man. Two hours of sleep and got on a plane.
[1819] I was exhausted, man. Yeah, especially if you're in Southern Florida.
[1820] Southern Florida is ridiculous.
[1821] That's where we're at.
[1822] And then it's like that.
[1823] And then with the time change in L .A., you know, you just all messed up.
[1824] But that's why sports, like, and, you know, obviously not in football, but like the Heisman vote and stuff like that on East Coast, it's so late that, like, I don't see a lot of it, you know, or they don't see a lot of the Monday night football or college games because it's just so damn late.
[1825] I feel like there's a better route to go.
[1826] Nope.
[1827] Obviously, they would do it if it was, right?
[1828] Yeah.
[1829] Well, the East Coast doesn't mind staying up late, and the West Coast demands it be on their schedule.
[1830] So it winds up starting at seven.
[1831] How does the West Coast get a demand that stuff?
[1832] More people that's filmed things out here.
[1833] Good point, sir.
[1834] Yeah, and if they did it on the West Coast, or the East Coast schedule, it would happen too early.
[1835] You would lose money.
[1836] Like, if you had this show at five, people are not done working.
[1837] It's true.
[1838] People have to work on Saturday.
[1839] They're still at work.
[1840] It's true.
[1841] So it can't be at four, which would be if it was their time, our time, who was 7 p .m. And then all of a sudden, you also have to think about the undercard.
[1842] What if somebody wants to watch the undercard?
[1843] On FS1, you're not going to pay for the undercard.
[1844] FS1's going to be, hey, listen, bitch, you can't put the undercard on it 10 in the morning nobody wants to watch that shit They've done it You know when they're in Brazil Yeah But they'll get mad People get mad That's true You're gonna get the mass audience It's obviously working Yeah and the East Coast stays up They always stay up Dude how crazy that Mass Square Garden After the fight The lights on the stadium Which they've never done before on the arena Were Irish colors for Con McGregor It's pretty intense Do you and Brian and I were arguing this Do you think Conn McGregor is more well known than Floyd Mayweather?
[1845] currently yes yeah boxing's a bigger sport yeah because you look at Floyd manny like the paper view numbers destroys anything connor's ever been close to that's true maybe not maybe no right I was arguing Connor is bigger he has social media and stuff like that but Floyd has more followers and on Instagram Twitter but you can't judge it off that here's the thing the amount of excitement that Floyd generates does not even fucking compare to the amount of excitement that Connor generates That doesn't mean he's more popular.
[1846] I understand, but it does kind of, because the intensity of the popularity, the love, people might know who Floyd Mayweather is, but when it comes to how many people love Floyd Mayweather is not even close.
[1847] It might be like some ridiculous, like 10 to 1 or 20 to 1 because when Connor gets out there, they go fucking crazy.
[1848] How many people are there to see Floyd Mayweather lose?
[1849] How many people are bored after Floyd Mayweather fights?
[1850] Like Floyd Mayer their fights so skillfully and surgically and doesn't take any chances and hardly ever gets hit.
[1851] It's not fun.
[1852] Connor Merck's motherfuckers.
[1853] He wins the world tighter and the fastest ever title -winning knockout ever.
[1854] What does he do after that?
[1855] He comes back and makes Eddie Alvarez look like...
[1856] Eddie Alvarez, world champion.
[1857] The guy was...
[1858] He's defending his belt.
[1859] Hall of fame.
[1860] And Connor makes him look like he has no business in there with him.
[1861] No business.
[1862] Has zero success at all except for a couple of body shots.
[1863] This is why I think Connor's bigger and more transcendent.
[1864] Because...
[1865] You just bailed on that word.
[1866] I did.
[1867] Sorry, man. Transcendent it.
[1868] Because I just bailed, right?
[1869] Just fucking out.
[1870] I do that sometimes.
[1871] I'm just like, yeah, I think I'm using it, Ron.
[1872] I'm going to see him, and we're going to go.
[1873] And Operation Eject, you.
[1874] But how many successful black athletes do we know?
[1875] Joe Gillen.
[1876] How many white Irish superstars do we know?
[1877] One.
[1878] Yeah, one.
[1879] One, sir.
[1880] Barry McGuigan was a big star before he came to the United States, and he came to the United States, and eventually lost his belt.
[1881] But Barry McGuigan at one point in time was a huge.
[1882] huge star, but nowhere near the star that Conner is worldwide.
[1883] This goes for all athletes.
[1884] Connors, the green elephant in the room.
[1885] Everyone else we've seen before, everyone else we know what they can kind of do.
[1886] Conner's this green elephant amongst all these gray elephants and there's nothing like him.
[1887] Totally different thing.
[1888] Totally different animal.
[1889] It's crazy.
[1890] He's elephant with two fucking trunks.
[1891] He's got 15 dicks.
[1892] 15 dicks, two trunks.
[1893] A bag of gold with a leprechaun outfit on.
[1894] Hi.
[1895] And now he has a little son on the way.
[1896] And they gave him a fucking roll.
[1897] Royce with his face on it how crazy is that what's interesting is how well he manages at all it's really interesting you know like that's the pressure in particular he doesn't seem to have a problem with it at all isn't it weird that's what makes him so special because that magnitude and the pressure and he has to deliver and he has to do those antics and then back it up yeah but he keeps pulling it off like you at the press conference i'm like right this is stupid man this is getting old to me but then when he pulls off i'm like that was brilliant and you know i mean the guy steps in he loses to Diaz right takes the Diaz fight on short notice oh by the way after a staff infection here's something a lot of people don't even know he had a pretty significant staff infection was on antibiotics until like I think two weeks before the fight if you don't think that drains your gas tank you never had a staff infection and you never had to take antibiotics antibiotics are brutal on your respiratory system yeah they're brutal on your whole body it's just your body's meant up yeah yeah your body's made up of all this shit that you don't consider to be you but it is you stomach flora is a real part of you you know your body is essentially like an ecosystem and when you have a staff infection staff infections are dangerous it's fuck and people die from them you're then so they hit you with some heavy duty antibiotics i've had staff twice and it's not fun and the first time i had it and i took the medication i couldn't believe how i felt so weird i felt lightheaded i felt weak i was like whoa you're drained right you have no energy it's super strong stuff too and i was like wow imagine this guy fighting two weeks after this.
[1898] It's insane.
[1899] Because there's no way you peek correctly.
[1900] No. So he comes from that and then he fights Nate again you know, a few months later in a fucking crazy five -round war and beats him by the narrowest of margins, right?
[1901] Don't you agree?
[1902] Yeah, very near.
[1903] Very close fight where some people thought that Nate won.
[1904] I mean, I didn't think he did but super close fight.
[1905] I thought the decision was correct.
[1906] But I was like, wow, that's a close fight.
[1907] So takes that fucking crazy chance, comes back and fights that guy.
[1908] He, Connor weighed one, That's what he weighed when he weighed in.
[1909] That's what he weighed during the fight.
[1910] And they want him to fight at 55.
[1911] He goes, no, no, no, I can be about 70.
[1912] Let me do 70.
[1913] Nate weighed probably around 190 something.
[1914] Yeah.
[1915] I mean, he did.
[1916] I mean, everybody says that Nate is a 155 pounder.
[1917] He is 100%.
[1918] But he's a way bigger man than Connor is.
[1919] He just is.
[1920] You know, so it's like who's going to weigh more when they actually get in there?
[1921] Nate's going to weigh more.
[1922] So he does that.
[1923] And then goes from there and just starches Eddie Avarez.
[1924] Like a world beater and just so relaxed and loose in there So amazing Fucking Madonna was at the show Madonna was at the fucking show Madonna was at the fights How crazy is that?
[1925] Madonna's Instagramming Mama we made it Mama we made it's red penny night It's red penny night and Madonna you're up I think she's single Where the fuck is my second belt I envision this where the fuck is me belt Nuts man It's fucking enough He's a character man He's such a character And, you know, I thought he was going to make a big announcement.
[1926] I thought his announcement was he's going to retire.
[1927] But his announcement was like, if I'm going to continue doing this, you guys need to, I need a share of the company.
[1928] Yeah, that's probably what the announcement was going to be all along, you know, that he wants a piece of the pie.
[1929] I mean, he's got an argument that he probably should get a percentage of the promotion because what they're selling is Connor McGregor.
[1930] They're selling the UFC plus Connor McGregor.
[1931] The question is, how much of that card, what would it be?
[1932] what would the paper, we don't know what the numbers are.
[1933] So let's pretend the number is two million, which would be like the greatest card of all time, right?
[1934] Probably wouldn't hit that.
[1935] I don't know.
[1936] I think I bet it's around one seven.
[1937] Let's just say two million because it's easy to correct.
[1938] So let's say that.
[1939] What percentage bought it because of Connor?
[1940] It might be a million.
[1941] One million plus for sure.
[1942] Might be.
[1943] One million plus for sure.
[1944] One million plus for sure.
[1945] So one million people might have bought the paper view specifically because of one human being.
[1946] That is not outrageous to say.
[1947] And but this is the other thing in Conner's favorite.
[1948] Name another star who can do that.
[1949] Rhonda can't quite do that.
[1950] She can't quite do it.
[1951] And she's talking about, this might be my last fight, blah, blah, blah.
[1952] I don't think she said that.
[1953] I think she said she's close to the end of her career.
[1954] Which, when you hear that, right?
[1955] Like, you always talk about having one foot out, blah, blah, blah.
[1956] So let's say she has two fights left.
[1957] Maybe three.
[1958] Who knows?
[1959] But she's not the same draw as Connor.
[1960] It's just not, it's just, you look at the number, she's not the same draw.
[1961] But if she comes back beats Amanda Nunez, arm bars her.
[1962] And then fights Cyborg?
[1963] And then fights Holly.
[1964] Beats Holly, gets her rematch.
[1965] She's still not as big as Connor.
[1966] You don't know that.
[1967] Because as that happens...
[1968] Do you like to bet Mr. Joe Rowan?
[1969] But here's the thing.
[1970] As these people win, their star gets more and more giant.
[1971] As Rhonda, if Rhonda came back and started winning again, her star would get more and more giant.
[1972] It would get bigger.
[1973] It would fuel more.
[1974] The more body she claims, the more fuel her fire will have.
[1975] That is what happens all the time.
[1976] I mean, it's pure speculation.
[1977] But if she can win the way Connor's been winning, if she can win in spectacular fashion, or the way she was winning when she fucked up Alexis Davis and Sarah McMahon.
[1978] Merking girls?
[1979] And then she cuts to 115.
[1980] She could never make.
[1981] But you know what I'm saying?
[1982] You don't think she could?
[1983] Fuck, no. Why not?
[1984] She's way too big.
[1985] But is she, okay.
[1986] Yeah, that'd be a, I mean, damn, they're impossible.
[1987] Yeah, because she looks really rough at the way in sometimes at 35.
[1988] That ain't, that's just nine, nathomable.
[1989] But if for Connor and this, and again, again, Again, I'm not rooting for favorites, but I'm just saying it from business standpoint.
[1990] For Connor, he's such a big draw.
[1991] Right.
[1992] What's going to help him in is negotiating power if Rhonda were to lose this next fight?
[1993] Because then he's like, I'm the only motherfucker in town.
[1994] You guys were claiming me and Rhonda?
[1995] That's cool.
[1996] She just lost.
[1997] I need my fucking money.
[1998] Well, and by the way, Rhonda has a tough fight in front of her.
[1999] Amanda Nunes is goddamn scary.
[2000] She's a scary girl.
[2001] And she was the one that I was saying before Rhonda lost to Holly.
[2002] I was saying she should have got the title fight.
[2003] And I said that I think she's the most dangerous one.
[2004] Yeah, and I was talking shit to you.
[2005] The way she stops Sarah McMahon, she cracks Sarah McMahon with that right hand.
[2006] Yeah, she hits like a Mack Chuck.
[2007] She hits like a dude.
[2008] But she, well, Cyborg hits like a strong girl.
[2009] Big difference.
[2010] Cyborg hits like Tyrone Woodley with braids.
[2011] Let's be real.
[2012] She hits so hard and gets no love because she's so goddamn scary and can't make the weight.
[2013] She also has a better arsenal, like she'll throw kicks and knees.
[2014] Shuffle black belt on the ground.
[2015] Yeah.
[2016] I think Amanda is too, yeah?
[2017] Amanda is.
[2018] But Amanda has lost on the ground before.
[2019] Yeah, yeah.
[2020] She got beat up by Katzenegano on the ground.
[2021] Correct.
[2022] Cyborg will rip your limbs off.
[2023] Yeah.
[2024] But she's getting no love.
[2025] But she's too big.
[2026] I know it sucks for her.
[2027] She's thinking to 155.
[2028] Well, 150.
[2029] Well, again, if they did that whole thing where I'm talking about the eliminated weight cuts.
[2030] There'd be two girls.
[2031] Cyborg would fight it like 180.
[2032] Cyborg fight at 180.
[2033] It'd be her and that big ass girl, Gabby, Gatsia.
[2034] That's it.
[2035] That's it.
[2036] That's all we got for you.
[2037] Gabby would have to cut weight to make.
[2038] You and Gabby fight every other weekend.
[2039] How about that?
[2040] Like Tim Sylvia and Andre Oloski.
[2041] Let's do that.
[2042] Every other weekend.
[2043] Tim and Frank Marr was fighting like every other weekend because all we had.
[2044] The old days.
[2045] The old days.
[2046] But I think for Rhonda, the Manda Nunes fight, stylistic.
[2047] And again, we don't know.
[2048] We don't know where Rhonda's mental state is at.
[2049] But styliski, it's a great matchup for Rhonda.
[2050] I think so?
[2051] Yeah.
[2052] I think if she comes ready, prepared, has a good camp, she marks her.
[2053] But don't you think that you look at the way she fucked up, Misha Tate, you're like, that girl presents a lot of danger with those punches, especially considering what happened with Holly and Rhonda.
[2054] Yeah, but yeah.
[2055] I think she presents a lot of danger.
[2056] 100 %, Joe.
[2057] I think you're right on that.
[2058] But I think her marching forward is the perfect antidote to get murked by Rhonda.
[2059] Because she's like, oh, come get some of this judo that I'm going to arm bar on your ass.
[2060] Right.
[2061] If she marches forward.
[2062] Which is really all she knows how to do.
[2063] You know what I'm saying?
[2064] It could be interesting.
[2065] It's a great fight either way.
[2066] It's also interesting to see where Rhonda's head is, now she's coming back.
[2067] That's the X factor.
[2068] Because if it's Rhonda 100%, she beats her, I think, nine out of ten times.
[2069] Strong words.
[2070] I know.
[2071] But if it's Ronna who's kind of, ah, I want to do movies, I want to do this, this isn't for me, you're going to get murked.
[2072] Because that girl hits so hard.
[2073] Well, what Ronda has and what Yuana has, you know, and not a whole lot of other women have it is one thing that they do where they're really fucking good at it.
[2074] And then they have all those other stuff.
[2075] Correct.
[2076] Whereas, like, Paige Van Zana is kind of learning the whole sport.
[2077] She's learning the whole thing.
[2078] As she goes.
[2079] Yeah.
[2080] Yeah, but what she does, what Paige has is just toughness.
[2081] And she's hot.
[2082] That helps.
[2083] Ridicously hot.
[2084] That definitely helps.
[2085] But there's not other girls, you know, other than Valentina, Valentina Shevchenko.
[2086] Yeah.
[2087] She's another one who's a badass who's another super powerful striker.
[2088] Yeah.
[2089] I mean, the way she handled Holly Holm standing up.
[2090] I know, man. Yeah, handled her.
[2091] Just countered her at will.
[2092] That looping left hook, that check hook that she throws off the right side.
[2093] Yeah, she's another one.
[2094] But there's not, they need more.
[2095] of those you know i agree like that's where mackenzie durn fits in exactly kentley durham come and do work and she's gorgeous but i'm saying if connor's like listen i don't wish bad on anyone but if ronner were to lose we thrown a party in ireland because i'm the only show in town now give me my fucking piece of the pie well nobody has that sort of personality that he has no one ever i think even he eclipses ali i think he impulses all of them i think he's he's bigger than chiel Sunnan, for sure, as far as, like, his ability to talk shit.
[2096] He's better than all of them.
[2097] I think he is.
[2098] I think he's better than Ollie.
[2099] But Ollie stood for a different thing, right?
[2100] Like, his message was more important when he fight for equal rights.
[2101] He's also fighting to stop the Vietnam War.
[2102] Like, there's bigger times.
[2103] He had several things going on for him that were bigger.
[2104] Connor's white privilege.
[2105] Yeah.
[2106] His nice suits.
[2107] Nice suits.
[2108] The government's not trying to send him over to fight in a war.
[2109] They're not stripping his belt for.
[2110] how long?
[2111] Three years.
[2112] Three fucking years.
[2113] In his prime.
[2114] That's like basically taking the belt from Conrad right now and going to go three years we'll see soon.
[2115] And then he comes back in three years after not having trained it all.
[2116] Ali didn't even work out for three years because when Ali wasn't fighting he was like why would I work out?
[2117] Well, fucked up sir.
[2118] And he was never the same, was he?
[2119] No. No, not only was he not the same.
[2120] He didn't have the footwork anymore.
[2121] He didn't have the endurance anymore.
[2122] He didn't have the fire really.
[2123] He came back.
[2124] You look at his body when he came back and fought Jerry Quarry.
[2125] Smooth.
[2126] He's come back.
[2127] Yeah, smooth.
[2128] That's what's scary.
[2129] not scary but to me interesting to see what happens with john jones because now they suspend for a year right and he's been out even longer and then before that so they're stripping his title and then dana obviously you know he never sticks to what he says sometimes he does but he goes he'll never be a main event again like we can't book him as the main event because we can't trust him anymore wow i know right so for john granted he's doing that flow grappling event against get the fuck out of here that flow grappling you could have been fighting for the ufc heavyweight title oh no i'm I'm just saying, at least he's doing something active.
[2130] At least he's not Muhammad Ali.
[2131] Yeah, I guess.
[2132] He's lost millions of dollars, but at least he's doing something in combat sports.
[2133] Well, he's only suspended for a year retroactively.
[2134] July.
[2135] It's up in July.
[2136] Yeah, so he has to get, I think, July 16th.
[2137] But still, it's been a while, because remember, before I did that huge laugh, before you'll see 200.
[2138] I know.
[2139] So when he comes back, it's going to be interested to see what we get out of them.
[2140] I know, and then he came back and he fought Ovin -S -Prew and, you know, look kind of tentative.
[2141] And then you saw Jimmy Maniwa run through Ovin -S -Pru.
[2142] All these guys are getting better They're getting better They're rising up and you know Rumble Rumble's fighting D .C. for the title again That's going to be a real interesting fight Super interesting Because remember Rumble did land that huge shot in D .C. and flattened them Yeah who knows In this fight he's got Neil Mlance in his corner now He's had him for a few years now He's worked with a lot on his grappling I guarantee he's concentrated a lot more In his wrestling, there's a lot of videos of him running wrestling drills Wrestling nonstop Yeah so he's preparing He's preparing to get up He's preparing for take down defense It's a fun fight man It's a toss -up for me. Toss up.
[2143] And then John Jones has all this laugh.
[2144] He comes back and let's say Rumble for a reason wins.
[2145] He's like, what's up, man?
[2146] Yeah, let's do it.
[2147] Well, why do you think he's going to get a straight shot at the title?
[2148] I don't even know if he would get a straight shot at the title upon coming back.
[2149] You know, that's what everyone wants to see, though, isn't it?
[2150] Maybe.
[2151] That's what the fans demand.
[2152] There might be something going on by then.
[2153] By the time this time rolls around next year or July rolls around.
[2154] So he's going to, he's free in July, whether or not means.
[2155] See, I don't know how suspensions work, but what I had would have been explained to me is performance -enhancing drug suspensions don't even allow you to train with other fighters who are on the roster really yes when your suspension is up then you can train with them i don't think you're even supposed to be sparring with them what once they hand down a suspension they don't have that regulation i don't know about that man is that right i think that's true i don't think that's true i hope it's not because it's crazy because you could help your teammates even if you're suspended you could still train and help your teammates and also sharpen your Shored a little bit.
[2156] Yeah, it's like telling a guy who's an accountant.
[2157] You're suspended for a year.
[2158] You can't even touch a calculator.
[2159] Where at night, he's touching calculators.
[2160] Yeah, he's going to touch them.
[2161] Yeah, go and touch that Ti -A -83.
[2162] Click, click, click, click.
[2163] Ooh, you know the model number.
[2164] Touch that T -I -A -3 Texas Instrument.
[2165] Yeah, I'm a nerd.
[2166] No, they used to make them have them in school.
[2167] I remember those.
[2168] Now it's on your phone.
[2169] Now your phone's like a thousand times better.
[2170] That was fine calculator.
[2171] That T -I -83 was like a fucking elongated game boy.
[2172] Yeah, like the calculator business, man, they took a hit.
[2173] they're no longer around they're like blockbuster there's none of them left man it's over they took anything jamie see anything the first article i clicked on was the one from last year so i don't think so but the other thing to your point where you don't think who says they'll get a title shot the lightweight uh the light heavyweight division is just el dinosaurs besides the top few guys they're so old john's like i'm not fucking fighting show gun again I don't know how dare you fight again but Jimmy Manon was a very dangerous fight for anybody right now he's a dangerous fight for John too you are reaching sir no I'm not you are reaching manna what lit up Ovin St. Prue did you see what happened when he fought Gusvin he got cracked yeah do you see what happened when he fought rumble he got cracked he got dealt with he got dealt with he got dealt with right it's part of the game well Ovin St. Prue just went fucking the full distance with John Jones in a tough fight with a sleepy John Jones and had a broken arm Yeah.
[2174] Got his arm broken that.
[2175] John broke that arm by throwing kicks, right?
[2176] Yeah, but my point is, he went the distance, and St. Prue took him out pretty quick.
[2177] I think he's, or I think, not St. Prue, rather, Jimmy Manow took him out pretty quick.
[2178] I think Manow was super dangerous.
[2179] Very fluid.
[2180] Very fluid with his striking.
[2181] It would be a dangerous first round for John and his comeback fight.
[2182] I think taking him down and beating him up on the ground would be John's best out.
[2183] 100%.
[2184] He's a trip him, throwing him to the ground and submit him.
[2185] Also, John's different than anybody else in his length and his ability to use it.
[2186] It doesn't get hit.
[2187] really.
[2188] And his wrestling is so fucking good.
[2189] He's just so long and strong.
[2190] Just not scared.
[2191] Just not scared to go to the ground with anybody.
[2192] But you look at light heavyweight division is hurting the most out of anyone, I think.
[2193] You go down the rush like, God, dog, we need some new blood in this bitch.
[2194] Yeah, you might be right.
[2195] The main event in Brazil is Ryan Bader of his little nog.
[2196] Little nogs, like, yeah, I'll fucking do it.
[2197] Yeah, I'll do it.
[2198] I've been fighting for 35 years.
[2199] Yeah, when is Little Knog?
[2200] I move like a goddamn tortoise, but if you want to pay me, I'll still do it.
[2201] He hasn't taken the same amount of punishment that his brother has, but he's taking some big knockouts.
[2202] Yeah, hope, hope, hold.
[2203] Remember what, so could you knocked him out with a wrist?
[2204] Oh, my God.
[2205] He, like, clotheslined him.
[2206] Yeah.
[2207] Yeah.
[2208] And then the Rumble one was just horrendous.
[2209] Dude, I told you, I was in the back of the locker, warming up Pat Cummings.
[2210] That my fucker warmed up by basically doing, like, arm stretches, couldn't even hit Mitz.
[2211] He was so stiff.
[2212] I was like, who was he fighting?
[2213] Like, Rumble's like, oh, he can't go out there.
[2214] I looked at his coach.
[2215] I'm like, no, no, I can't speak Spanish, but no, Bueno.
[2216] Or Portuguese, sorry, yeah, there's no, I'm like, he can't go out there, man. I wanted to grab his leg, like a three -year -old and not let him walk out to the octagon.
[2217] I think Brazil is such a huge hotbed for MMA right now.
[2218] It's so gigantic that they need Brazilian stars.
[2219] And, you know, for the main event in particular, they're like, just don't have a whole lot of options in a light, heavyweight division.
[2220] So, someone fucking wake up, Little Nog, out of his slumber, because he's recuperating.
[2221] Little Nog or Big Nog?
[2222] Little Nog.
[2223] Because they're waking him up out of slumber.
[2224] Because Big Nog's done.
[2225] He's done.
[2226] Little Nog, they woke his ass up and he's like an al -fight bait or whatever.
[2227] I mean, he's probably asking for another fight.
[2228] But outside of him, what other good light heavyweights from Brazil that are in the UFC that you could like sell a main event are.
[2229] Glover.
[2230] But they already fought.
[2231] Right.
[2232] But Glover just got cracked too.
[2233] And he should probably take quite a while off after that knockout.
[2234] That was a kind of knockout that you need to like not do nothing.
[2235] Yeah, he needs to lay low.
[2236] Yeah, he got flatlined I mean, so you got that light heavy You got show gun Which I don't know what's going on here I think showgun's got to be done If he's not done he's probably real close to being done That's what I'm saying look at light heavyway bro Go through True In Brazilian though Even more so As far as like Brazilian fighters As far as fame Machito got suspended Suspended and suspended for a long fucking time Does he have a two year I'm not sure It's not good I don't know if they've decided or not But I felt like he got suspended for two years I mean just look at the Brazilian fighters Especially, you're right, light, heavyweight.
[2237] And Machita was going 85 anyway.
[2238] But you can float between 205.
[2239] I'm just thinking 2 .05 guys he could line up with in Brazil.
[2240] Yeah, not a lot.
[2241] Not a whole lot.
[2242] I mean, Bader already fought Liotto.
[2243] You could sell that as a rematch because, remember, Liotto knocked him out.
[2244] In L .A., yeah, bad.
[2245] Yeah.
[2246] But he's suspended.
[2247] You're right, though, especially there's not a lot of new blood in Brazil.
[2248] No. Look at Jose.
[2249] Look at the faces.
[2250] Anderson Silva.
[2251] His leg fell off.
[2252] He just lost the Bisbing.
[2253] And then he got, oh, then he lost the D .C. So he's basically done.
[2254] Well, Thomas Almeida was looking really good before Cody Garbrand came around.
[2255] Ooh, he marked him.
[2256] He marked him.
[2257] Oh, who's homeboy that T .J. Dillishol is fighting?
[2258] Hits like a fucking Matt truck.
[2259] Linnaker.
[2260] That's a good fight.
[2261] That's a good fight.
[2262] Very good fight.
[2263] Linnaker's terrified.
[2264] They told T .J., like, listen, we did think you beat Domit Cruz.
[2265] You're not getting a title shot.
[2266] We're going to DeGarbrandt.
[2267] Here's fucking Linnaker, though.
[2268] And if Garbrant wins and T .J. wins, it's a big if on both sides, right?
[2269] Who knows?
[2270] It's a big, big if.
[2271] Especially on the...
[2272] Dominic Cruside.
[2273] Good luck hitting that guy.
[2274] I know, but if he does land.
[2275] If he lands, he knocks everybody out.
[2276] I'm a Garbrandt fan, man. He's my favorite at that weight class.
[2277] I love that dude.
[2278] He's an old school, young, that weight class 135, just a, he reminds me of Chuck Ladell.
[2279] He's a fucking savage.
[2280] He's a fucking savage.
[2281] No doubt.
[2282] Good looking dude, too.
[2283] You like him?
[2284] You like it?
[2285] I like it.
[2286] I like the whole package.
[2287] I like the knockout power.
[2288] I like that he merks dudes.
[2289] All right, we got to wrap this up.
[2290] I got to get the fuck out of here.
[2291] I quit talking about dudes and their fezies.
[2292] So, Fighter and the kid, T -FatK .com, Brendan Schaub on Twitter and Instagram.
[2293] I'm at the Laugh Factory Thursday, son.
[2294] Oh, shit.
[2295] This Thursday Laugh Factory doing stand -up again.
[2296] How many times you've been on stage now?
[2297] By myself like that.
[2298] Yeah.
[2299] I mean, we do.
[2300] I always start stand -up to Fighting and Kids, but a comedy store, I think three times and this is the first time at Laugh Factory.
[2301] Oh, shit.
[2302] You like it?
[2303] Love it.
[2304] All right.
[2305] Thursday, go out.
[2306] What times the show?
[2307] 8 o 'clock.
[2308] If you're in L .A. All right.
[2309] Thanks, brother.
[2310] Thank you, man. Fun times.
[2311] Fun times.
[2312] I missed you.
[2313] Love you.
[2314] I love you, too, man. See you soon.