#691 - Bryan Callen

[0] Oh, fuck yeah, ladies and gentlemen.

[1] Oh, fuck yeah.

[2] So we're doing this place on the 22nd and the 23rd.

[3] We're working together two nights in a row, Brian Callen.

[4] That's what's happening.

[5] Ladies and gentlemen, can you believe this?

[6] I get to work with one of my best friends on the planet Earth, Brian motherfucking Callan.

[7] Brian the Kid.

[8] September 22nd and 23rd.

[9] Yeah, 22nd will be at the Ice House.

[10] I hate saying one of my best friends because...

[11] I don't want to be mean to my other best friends.

[12] Is that what nice?

[13] You're my favorite.

[14] I'm kind of your favorite.

[15] guys at the end of the day what the fuck jo rogan at the end of the day where am i what do i fit in your fucking program my number three cocksucker now i'm very easy to hang out with for you it's just it's no work we're both retarded yeah we speak each other's language that's the best that's the best part of it yeah we understand the 23rd you guys yeah we're doing the ventura in ventura California yeah we're doing two shows now we just added an eight o 'clock well we haven't out of ten o 'clock it's not it's not for sale yet but it will be for sale soon yeah and then um 8 o 'clock and at 10 o 'clock, sure.

[16] Yeah, and Tuesday, we're doing something that's like a showcase at the ice house.

[17] Just me and Callan on Tuesday night, the 22nd.

[18] 22nd on the 23rd, the 22nd Ice House, 23rd, Hong Kong Inn.

[19] Two shows, 8 and 10.

[20] Oh, if we just had a hunting trip in with that, it might be the perfect week.

[21] We need to go hunting again.

[22] Yeah.

[23] And it's not even about the animals.

[24] It's just an opportunity for me to be a silly goose and have you captive for five days.

[25] One of our favorite trips was the one in Alaska, which was the most miserable.

[26] But Renella had a really fucking good point about that trip.

[27] And he was talking about things that are fun.

[28] He's like, there's things that are fun while you're doing them, and then they're not fun afterwards.

[29] But there's things that are not fun while you're doing them, and they become really fun after you've done them.

[30] Such an interesting point.

[31] Yeah, it's one of his buddies has this scale of fun.

[32] Yeah.

[33] It's like, and the cheapest, easiest fun is like roller coaster rides.

[34] But nobody looks back on a roller coaster ride and goes, man, that time went down, fucking roller coaster, man. Yeah, we did that rollerco, dude, we went up.

[35] We went down with all those other people strapped to our seat.

[36] No, no, no, you need an element of suffering.

[37] You need to be shivering in the morning and wet.

[38] And I think, because they've done some studies on what happens when you're in those situations, you create, anxiety actually creates oxytocin.

[39] And oxytocin is a bonding chemical.

[40] So when you're going through the shit, when it's raining and you're going through the shit, when it's raining and you're cold and you're like fuck man this is going to suck we're going to go find a deer it's actually a bonding experience and what happens is when you think back on it like what are you going to do when you're sitting there freezing in the rain you're going to make each other laugh it's just silliness what you know what else you're going to do and i with you and i yeah but you and i have a good attitude for that stuff we can both just accept the fact that we're in a bad environment there's some people that just can't accept it and they freak out yeah those are the ones you can't bring with you i can't bring those people with me yeah just but even those people people, I always submit that a lot of that is like how you've always approached bad situations.

[41] Like, how have you learned?

[42] Well, I would say it's also a factor, a fact that they are thinking about the wrong things.

[43] So they always say mental strength is more about what you choose not to think about in shitty circumstances.

[44] Like Tim Kennedy was telling a really funny story about when he was doing Ranger, because I asked him, I said, what drives you?

[45] Like, how are you so tough?

[46] What do you think it is?

[47] He said, I don't know, man. He said, I was Ranger training and it was so cold I was lying on the ground and we were waiting for a simulated ambush and I my my dick was hitting the like a woodpecker I was shivering my body was shivering like like that and some dude just got up and went down the road and said I quit I give up I'm done and Tim is sitting there freezing and he goes that dude is so fucking smart he's so much smarter than I am here I am in this shit and that guy is smart enough to be like fuck it I don't want to do this anymore, and he was just, he just says I was just too stubborn to quit.

[48] Now, I'm more impressed with Tim than I am with that guy.

[49] Depends on what the guy did.

[50] If he left and started some global powerhouse of a company like, you know, Tesla Motors or something like that, and went on to make a billion dollars in the next two years, I would say, yeah, that guy probably did the right thing.

[51] That's why it's really important for a society to be structured in such a way that you allow people to do what they're meant to do.

[52] If you're in Russia, the guy with the biggest guns and the biggest muscles, that's the guy that runs everything.

[53] But how much innovation comes out of Russia?

[54] When's the last time you bought a Russian computer or a Russian car or a Russian anything?

[55] It's a very good point.

[56] Yeah.

[57] They make good fighters.

[58] They make good fighters.

[59] And they're very tough, very macho culture.

[60] How about their hoes?

[61] How about their hoax?

[62] They are on point.

[63] They are on point.

[64] And I was 17 and I had my experience with two of them in the Cosmos Hotel.

[65] Really?

[66] In Russia?

[67] I sure did.

[68] 17.

[69] Svetlana and Christina.

[70] Where'd you get the money?

[71] Oh, I didn't give them money, but I did give them my Nike shoes and my blue jeans, and my blue jeans, because there was a guy there, yeah.

[72] So this is before we sorted out the Cold War?

[73] 1985.

[74] So it was still danger?

[75] Uh -huh.

[76] I was 18, 17.

[77] You barely could get over there, right?

[78] I mean, you could get over there, but they looked at you, funny.

[79] You had a government monitor.

[80] You had a government monitor.

[81] Yep, they would bug your hotel room to make sure you weren't, you know, CIA or whatever.

[82] So did you walk around your hotel room going, oh, fuck, yeah.

[83] I'm coming, coming again.

[84] Oh, communism.

[85] Communist a car turns me on.

[86] We follow him.

[87] Look at transcript.

[88] All the time, come.

[89] Look, American dick.

[90] Look, he's come.

[91] Here, it's come there.

[92] He come bathroom.

[93] He come balcony.

[94] He come television on bed.

[95] Who clean?

[96] Not me. He's young.

[97] He's 17.

[98] His dick never go down.

[99] You know what Mike Swick told me?

[100] Mike Swick used to work for some government agency.

[101] I forget what it was.

[102] I want to say Secret Service.

[103] Um, but they were in Moscow and they discovered these listening devices that the Russians had placed in their buildings and they were so sophisticated that they were powered by the movement of the building because every move, every building has subtle movement.

[104] Like if you've ever been in a building that is in an earthquake, it's a very weird feeling because you feel the building like rocking back and forth and it's it's disconcerting, you know, it's like, whoa, this thing fucking moves, man. but there's a constant moving and swaying with the wind and it's very minute and sometimes you can feel it like if it's a heavy storm but most of the time you can't well the Russians had figured out how to make some piece of sound equipment power by that so it had no external power source it was completely powered by the movement of the building and and so the device would turn on wow so if somebody was walking it would turn on well so I don't know the specifics but I know that it was a very sophisticated device that was powered by the movement in the building.

[105] I think a lot of those are voice activated.

[106] But I used to have a voice activated tape recorder.

[107] And at one point in I was trying to hook it up to the tank, my isolation tank, so that I'm in the tank and I have a great idea.

[108] I could just say it and record it, but I never, I just didn't use it because the ideas were just coming out.

[109] Like, when you're in the tank, the ideas are just coming at you, like, wet fish.

[110] Yeah, I know.

[111] Try to catch them, try to hold on to one, but they're really hard to do it.

[112] In that tank, I try to have no thoughts.

[113] that's hard to do but this guy you know SWIC that was when SWIC was telling me these you know these guys whoever had set this equipment up in there they were using sophisticated equipment that the US government didn't even know existed wow wow yeah it's always been a technological race we were far ahead of them in the Cold War just because we could outsource it but not with not with rocketry not with the space program The space program, like, you're always going to have problems whenever there's a country where people don't have the motivation to succeed and achieve because they don't get financially rewarded or they're constrained by that sort of, you know, they have this sort of imperialistic Russian sort of economy.

[114] It's a very different way of achieving success.

[115] You achieve success if you get in with the right group of people and you have to play the right politics.

[116] Yeah, it's an economy of influence.

[117] You can't just be some fucking nomad, some rogue investor who goes out and kicks ass and makes a lot of money.

[118] They take those guys and they take their money and they lock them up in jail.

[119] That's right.

[120] I mean, Putin has done that to many of these oligarch billionaire characters and these terrifying stories.

[121] Well, the mistake that they made, a lot of those guys made was going into politics and criticizing the government.

[122] Putin had sort of an unwritten law and said, you can make your money, you're going to pay us a little something, you can make your money.

[123] You start making noise about politics.

[124] and that's what they did to, what's his name?

[125] The guy who owned Yucos Oil, I think it's called, the biggest oil magnet.

[126] And they stormed his plane, and I think he's still in jail.

[127] No, they let him out.

[128] They let him out.

[129] But I think it's the same guy you're talking about.

[130] It took all his...

[131] It was a very famous case.

[132] Took everything.

[133] Yeah, took everything.

[134] When you have a government like that, when you don't have property rights, when you don't have due process, when you don't have objective law, what happens is who in the world is going to work really hard to create a company when the guy with the biggest guns can come along and take it.

[135] Again, I'd love to sit Putin down and ask him how he thinks that strategy makes any sense.

[136] He's not thinking that it makes sense.

[137] He's thinking that he can do it.

[138] Yeah, it's a very short -sighted thing that ironically makes your country way weaker.

[139] It lowers your life expectancy and everything.

[140] Rush is a one -crop economy.

[141] Oil.

[142] And now that oil is at $40 a barrel when it was at $100 a barrel when it was at $100.

[143] they're having a major crisis.

[144] Do you think that is a part of the U .S. strategy to fuck with them?

[145] Absolutely not.

[146] No. Absolutely not.

[147] So you don't think the U .S. government has any control whatsoever on the amount of the price of oil?

[148] Absolutely not.

[149] Is it possible?

[150] Russia's biggest problem is that their history has either given rise to czars, kings, or a different kind of czar, which is the communist dictator.

[151] You know, Russians are a very industrious people.

[152] and you wonder what they would be capable of doing if they lived in a society where the incentive structure rewarded you for your work and your ingenuity.

[153] But unfortunately, they have always lived under some kind of an autocracy, some kind of oligarchy.

[154] It's never been different.

[155] I mean, Putin is essentially a czar, and he has his small group of people around him.

[156] So I believe that it has nothing to do with the United States.

[157] In fact, it has everything to do with the United States.

[158] philosophy.

[159] It's not what I meant, though, honestly.

[160] I agree with you on all that, but what I meant is the price of oil.

[161] Do you think it's manipulated to fuck with events?

[162] I don't think it's possible.

[163] Oil is a worldwide economy, a commodity.

[164] And so when it's traded on the worldwide commodity, nobody's controlling oil.

[165] Oil is out there and traded by...

[166] Do you know how it goes up and down?

[167] Like when oil goes from $40 a barrel, $100 a barrel, how does it do that?

[168] I don't know the intricacies of that, but I do know that one of the reasons it went from $100 ,000.

[169] $100 to $40 a barrel was fracking in this country where we had our own access to massive oil shales.

[170] Yeah, that's a big deal.

[171] It's incredible.

[172] It's changed everything.

[173] And all of a sudden, we're no longer dependent on Russian oil.

[174] Other people aren't as dependent on Russian oil.

[175] They can buy our oil for cheaper.

[176] Or there's just a glut.

[177] There's just more oil.

[178] And when there's more oil being traded on the world stage, the price will come down.

[179] There is not a scarcity of oil.

[180] In fact, oil now in 2015, I think, is now a...

[181] I mean, the price of gas is ridiculously cheap because it's nobody expected this kind of technology to create that much oil that quickly.

[182] You know, fracking, though, seems like, no matter when anybody says, I mean, there's going to be debate.

[183] Any time there's anything controversial, any time that there's any sort of environmental risk with something like that, it's hard to separate the facts from the noise.

[184] Yes.

[185] But it seems without a doubt that some areas are getting contaminated.

[186] It seems without a doubt that some rivers are getting polluted, some well systems are getting fucked up.

[187] That movie Gasland got criticized for some inaccuracies, but they couldn't criticize all of it.

[188] You know, there's some undeniable aspects to fracking.

[189] There's some undeniable aspects to any kind of energy technology because the fact of the matter is civilization and feeding the civilization and energy source is going to be at this point.

[190] polluting.

[191] And I think the way out of it is, you know, a lot of people favor legislation.

[192] And I think they might be a place for legislation, of course.

[193] But I think what's really going to get us out of that kind of an issue is technology is just create more incentives.

[194] I don't care if it's through the government or, you know, government grants or private enterprise, create incentives for smart people to come up with clean technology.

[195] And that's what we're doing.

[196] You know, that's kind of where um you want ahead yeah it's not like there's going to be some sort of an instant solution for the pollution of the atmosphere or the ocean but it seems like with people people are really fucking smart there's these giant leaps that they make every now and then and a lot of them are due to pressure and there's some real pressure where people are worried about the environment 100 % and there's going to be people way smarter than us that are going to figure some ways around it like did you hear about that 19 year old kid came up with a device to um clean all the plastic out of the ocean no yeah yeah he won some prize for it.

[197] Jamie, see if you can find that.

[198] It's like some gigantic fucking skimmer that's going to go over the Pacific garbage patch and it sucks the plastic out and I think it puts it to use.

[199] See, the thing about like plastic is if you could actually get it out of the ocean, it's valuable.

[200] It has a value.

[201] Well, there's more, what is that?

[202] They did something.

[203] There's an island of plastic the size of the continental United States or something crazy.

[204] It's not quite that big, but it's like it's not necessarily an island either.

[205] Like I've described it as an island and people have corrected me. What it is is like soup.

[206] Yes.

[207] It's like there's where the wind...

[208] Tiny pieces.

[209] They're very small.

[210] They're very small.

[211] And that's where the tide has, you know, there's areas where there's like the currents, they put things into like a circulation and then it'll all accumulate in this one area.

[212] But it's like...

[213] I think that any problem has a solution.

[214] I actually really, as I get older, I'm way less cynical.

[215] I think the...

[216] Here it is right here.

[217] Ocean cleanup.

[218] So this guy's figured out some way.

[219] And correct me if I'm wrong, Jamie.

[220] This is the same one.

[221] where there's a 19 -year -old kid who created this?

[222] I didn't see anything about his age.

[223] This might be a different thing, because I never saw this part before.

[224] I re -googled the story from, like, 2013 when it was going around.

[225] I just researched the new name to find up some updated stories on it.

[226] Oh, so this is the update?

[227] Yeah, this is their actual website.

[228] The largest cleanup in history.

[229] So they're going to create some gigantic, huge machine.

[230] It's probably going to create a lot of jobs, and they're going to suck all that fucking plastic out of the ocean.

[231] The real problem, too, is not just the plastic in the ocean, but overfishing.

[232] We kill a lot of fucking fish.

[233] I wonder, though, if there's a way, I mean, they have hatcheries.

[234] I wonder if there's a way for us to create hatcheries that release fish into the wild.

[235] Because we have hatcheries that release salmon.

[236] We do it with salmon, and we do with trout.

[237] You know, there's places where you fish for trout and the fish all come from hatcheries.

[238] and they stock the fish.

[239] Well, the problem is the dead zones, the ecological dead zones in the bottom of the ocean, where they trawlers, where they drag for shellfish and stuff, they drag these giant sort of claws that collect everything the size of semis.

[240] And they just do that through, and there are areas in the Atlantic that are massive dead zones.

[241] There's some crazy amount, like areas the size of Western Europe that are literally dead zones.

[242] Yeah, there's no fucking plants growing down there.

[243] There's no oxygen.

[244] Yeah.

[245] The world gets devastated.

[246] Yeah, but I had linguine with clams last night.

[247] It was delicious.

[248] I'm not going to go pick those fucking clams.

[249] I know.

[250] Who's going to get me clams?

[251] We'll figure it out.

[252] Did it hit him?

[253] Look at this.

[254] Same guy.

[255] What a cool name.

[256] Boy on Slat.

[257] Yeah.

[258] He sounds like a wizard.

[259] He's a Dutch entrepreneur.

[260] Dutch.

[261] High as fuck.

[262] Guaranteed.

[263] Entrepreneur and inventor.

[264] This kid, this is a guy to get on the podcast now before he becomes too big.

[265] Wow.

[266] You need to find him.

[267] Find him, Jamie.

[268] Make a note.

[269] Make a mental note.

[270] Call Matt Staggs.

[271] Find this young man. We'll fly him out from Holland.

[272] Tell him we have weed.

[273] Let him know.

[274] He's only 19.

[275] We could corrupt him.

[276] Take him around Brian Red Band's girls.

[277] Exactly.

[278] That's Krypton Night for any genius.

[279] Bring him to dirty places.

[280] Yeah, we had Alex Honnold on, who is this like one of the best free climbers in the world.

[281] Yeah.

[282] He is the best, isn't he?

[283] I mean, he does it without ropes.

[284] Yeah, he does.

[285] He does it with ropes first to map out his course.

[286] Obviously, you have to make sure that you can do it without ropes.

[287] So you got to do it with ropes first, but then he just makes a decision and knows what he can do and what he can't do.

[288] Anyway, he was like real mellow and, like, steady until Brian brought up girls and porn stars.

[289] He knows.

[290] He's like, what?

[291] Really?

[292] Because we're inviting him to go to Vegas.

[293] It's too much for him.

[294] We were inviting him to go to Vegas.

[295] There was a UFC in Vegas, and we were doing a show out there.

[296] And the guy's eyes lit up, like, it's funny.

[297] It's just like, you're not getting any pussy on that mountain.

[298] Dude, pussy is like.

[299] the most pussy's cryptic for anybody there are women that can change your whole life what's that man's name again that young young fellow Bryant boy and slat boy and slut I guarantee you there's some girls out there that are reading the same thing especially dirty girls that listen to this podcast they're gonna find him they're gonna find him they're gonna suck money out of his dick he's probably super tall girls super tall and thin doesn't matter if he is the Dutch are the tallest men in Europe could buy you a belly Just suck it out of his dick.

[300] You could literally suck a Bentley out of his dick.

[301] You just have to suck hard enough and just gently work the balls.

[302] He just starts to cuddle into his pocket?

[303] Yes, just be magical to him.

[304] Be a magical nymph who came out of nowhere.

[305] It just came out of the woods and get a trap phone.

[306] All those guys that are sending you dick pictures, don't give that number to, what's the name again?

[307] Boyin.

[308] Don't give it to flat.

[309] It's kind of funny that he's something that involves water and he's kind of buoyant.

[310] Yeah.

[311] You know?

[312] Boyin.

[313] Yeah, that's all we need, man. Put one...

[314] Just one girl.

[315] One girl with a fucking...

[316] An iPhone with no contacts on it.

[317] She's only getting messages from Boyin.

[318] And then extort him for money.

[319] I mean, let's leave that phone laying around.

[320] Never has to worry about getting in trouble.

[321] Because it just dicks...

[322] Vibrating, dicks.

[323] Get some Russian gal.

[324] Some Russian gal that maybe you met when you were 17 and stole your sneakers.

[325] Get her.

[326] Get her to find Boyan.

[327] I bet Putin would fucking send...

[328] is attackers.

[329] He's probably got a little trained piranha women that he's trained over there.

[330] I guarantee he does.

[331] That they all bang.

[332] Everybody in the fucking cabinet or whatever they have, Parliament.

[333] There's a lot of fuck in the parliament.

[334] A lot of anonymous fucking with masks.

[335] Well, that's one of the reasons why Star Wars are so ridiculous, okay?

[336] Because Darth Vader had no motivation.

[337] Darth Vader wasn't getting any pussy, okay?

[338] He was just being evil.

[339] Yeah.

[340] There was no money.

[341] He wasn't like rolling around in money.

[342] Well, domination of the universe, right?

[343] For what?

[344] For what?

[345] To wear that stupid mask?

[346] Come on.

[347] What are you going to do?

[348] You can't even exist without that stupid helmet on, and you're going to dominate the universe, and then what?

[349] You win.

[350] You're already winning.

[351] And when you're around, you could choke him without even using your hands.

[352] You could fake choke them from a distance and kill him.

[353] What do you want?

[354] But you wonder about people like Genghis Khan and what motivated him.

[355] Pussy and booty?

[356] Pussy and booty.

[357] Do you know how much pussy that guy had?

[358] Do you know what the numbers are?

[359] One in 500 male Chinese men are directly related to.

[360] Directly.

[361] He changed the fucking ecosystem.

[362] It's crazy.

[363] Dude, there was a New York Times article that said that he killed so many people, something around 10 % of the world's population, died while he was alive, directly because of his decisions.

[364] Yeah.

[365] It was so different.

[366] The biggest asshole on the planet.

[367] Or a great guy who was misunderstood, who was killing a lot of assholes.

[368] I bet everybody back then was an asshole.

[369] Dealing with 1 ,200 AD.

[370] Oh, fucking kill them all.

[371] What do they know?

[372] They're all apes.

[373] Well, when Dan Carlin says, you have to, one.

[374] under what the strength of his nature was to wake up and say, I want the world.

[375] I want that, which I can't even see.

[376] He got a scouting guy came back and said, look, there are people with blonde hair and blue eyes in what was Russia.

[377] And they said, we should go get those too.

[378] And he was like, all right, let's go take them over too.

[379] Well, not only that, they were willing to go through so much hardship.

[380] They crossed into Moscow in the winter.

[381] Yes.

[382] Because there was this marshy area that you could only cross through in the winter, when it was frozen solid, but no one ever thought that anybody would do that because it was so harsh, the climate's so harsh.

[383] The Mongols didn't give a fuck.

[384] They never washed their clothes.

[385] They ate rats.

[386] They ate each other occasionally.

[387] They'd run out of food.

[388] That's disputed, apparently, according to Dan Carlin.

[389] They would drink their mare's milk and blood.

[390] Yeah.

[391] They would cut their horses and then fill their class with horse and mare's blood, and that's what they would survive on for days at a time.

[392] Yeah.

[393] They were just so fucking crazy.

[394] I think life in the Gobi Desert on the, step was already so insanely harsh and you were primarily a carnivore the way they would hunt and catch birds and catch you know the deer and the whatever was there with their horses it was just a very harsh harsh way to live well there's a reality to people that you could always take more you know most of the time up until the point where it kills you you could take more yeah you know i was watching runella uh meat eater the other day he had an episode on i don't want to say the name wrong, Nanuvak Island outside of Alaska.

[395] You can get to it when the fucking ocean freezes.

[396] You can walk there.

[397] I'm not doing that hunting trip.

[398] They take jet skis across the frozen ocean.

[399] Okay?

[400] And these people are out there and they hunt for this thing called a muscox, which is this enormous beast of an animal, which I may go hunting in Greenland with Cam Haynes who might do an archery musk ox hunt because apparently you can hunt.

[401] them in the dry green you don't have to be an asshole and be out there in the middle my dentist almost died of died hunting from muscocks they apparently taste delicious yeah they taste like rib eye steak it's like it's just incredibly delicious fat big fat animal because they're just constantly eating to try to keep fat on to keep them warm yeah and they're they're ridiculously cool looking and there's a lot of them so they're like yeah and in greenland apparently there are wow in great well they they thrive more so you can go hunting for them in the grass where it's not that cold.

[402] Exactly.

[403] Where you're doing it in the Arctic, if you're doing it in Alaska, you're hunting for them on these frozen tundras.

[404] It's crazy to watch.

[405] Sam Sheridan was telling me that they went to rescue, I think they were hunting muscocks, but they went to rescue these guys who had been out on a hunt and they were already, they were so cold.

[406] They were already dying of frostbite.

[407] And what they got there, they were taking all their clothes off.

[408] Because what happens.

[409] You know, you, the blood rushes to your, yeah, you think you're burning.

[410] Oh, that's a scary way to die.

[411] Meanwhile, you're going to go to the cryogenic chamber after this today.

[412] Yes, I am.

[413] To bring down my inflammation.

[414] You got it everywhere.

[415] I guarantee.

[416] Everybody does.

[417] You're going to feel like a million bucks, too.

[418] I'm kind of immortal.

[419] Neoprenephrin, your brain produces this incredible anti -inflammatory and antidepressant.

[420] Really?

[421] You're going to feel great.

[422] Oh, I'm going to come out hugging.

[423] I'll come out hugging.

[424] Moscox, yeah.

[425] Oh, so this environment where these people lived, I was like, this is an incredible like the the village was less than 200 people and you know it's just nothing but white you look around it's just frozen everything the ground is flat and white and goes on for as far as the eye can see and these people are living there man and they have the little kids and their kids were living there and they're all bundled up except their faces they're like what's you know and Ronell's like what's your favorite food he's like I like to eat seal they eat the seal and walrus is my favorite food They're hearing walrus And they're staying alive If life started in East Africa There were some people that just kept Walking north fuck Spain And the sunshine and the grass I don't want that Now let's go where it's icy And it gets dark at noon Yeah this is home They didn't know any better man They didn't know where they were going I mean a lot of this when this happened People had a rudimentary understanding Of navigation They just went in search of food And kept going That's true And then wound up here I mean nobody would have gone across the fucking Bering Strait if they knew.

[426] Right.

[427] They just kept going.

[428] They just kept going.

[429] Really, everybody should have stayed in Africa.

[430] Yeah.

[431] Although the Fertile Crescent was even where you want to be, like Iraq, where a number started.

[432] Because you had grasses that grew like barley and millet and wheat, and it was easy, just the way, and you could domesticate animals.

[433] But you know, that's when they first started importing coffee.

[434] That's why they call them Arabic.

[435] Arabic beans?

[436] Yeah, it all came from Ethiopia, all of it.

[437] Yes, I heard that.

[438] Yeah, I had a fascinating gentleman on my podcast.

[439] What was his name?

[440] Peter, trying to figure his last name, Italian.

[441] Find it.

[442] Oh, he was that a coffee guy?

[443] Yeah, an expert, a real coffee expert, and a really cool guy.

[444] And he ran down the history.

[445] What is his name?

[446] Peter Giuliano.

[447] The myth I've heard and tell me if this is right, the myth I heard was that Ethiopian goat farmers were watching their goats eat these berries, and they would get a pep in their step and have more energy when they were done eating the berries.

[448] Huh, that's interesting.

[449] And then the shepherds were like, well, if they eat them, maybe I'll eat them.

[450] Makes sense.

[451] Yeah, and based on their other types of cooking, the way you would, you know, cook something, they decided, let's try to roast these beans and see what happens.

[452] That makes sense.

[453] I wonder, I wonder if that's the case.

[454] You know, that was an issue with, that's how they figured out the cortisps mushroom, too.

[455] Cortisps mushrooms, high altitude hurting populations.

[456] They're watching their animals eat these mushrooms, and their animals would have, like, more energy.

[457] They're like, huh, what the fuck's going on here?

[458] And they figured out that it helps in oxygen utilization.

[459] That was before, like, the Chinese Olympic team started using them.

[460] Wow.

[461] Yeah.

[462] It's cool when, you know, you get animals to try out food for you and see if they die.

[463] But the problem is, like, there's some shit that they can't eat, that we can eat.

[464] For the most part, though, they say that, like with dogs, and if the dogs eat onions and makes them anemic and stuff, But for the most part, they say if a bird's eating it, I've heard this.

[465] I don't know.

[466] You can eat it.

[467] You can eat it.

[468] That makes sense.

[469] If an animal is eating it.

[470] But then again, I think birds eat certain berries.

[471] I mean, there are certain berries and mushrooms you can eat.

[472] You eat like half a mushroom and you're dead.

[473] Yeah, there's certain mushrooms that look real similar to psychedelic mushrooms.

[474] Yeah.

[475] And if you eat them, you have like instant liver toxicity.

[476] Like you might have to get a liver transplant.

[477] Yeah, you're going to die.

[478] How fuck does that, man?

[479] You know, there was an old lady, well, not just one.

[480] I think there were several people that.

[481] died in a nursing home because this old guy or old gal, I forget what it was, went out in search of mushrooms and brought back with some mushrooms and cooked it for everyone in the nursing home and they fucking died.

[482] Well, you know, the oleander is super poisonous and I heard.

[483] What is oleander?

[484] Oliander is, you see it, it's like a nondescript kind of bush with, you know, big kind of long cylindrical leaves.

[485] And these guys used an oleander branch to cook their lamb, these tourists.

[486] They ran an oleander branch And whatever Whatever happened The sap got in the meat And they fucking died And then they had this really Expensive racehorse And I don't remember where This you know this racehorse They're 100 million dollars It was like Somehow that racehorse ate a couple of oleander leaves And died God damn Why did you have oleander Near the horses stable?

[487] Let's see a picture of oleander Jamie I need to know That this stuff Is that Weaves.

[488] Fucking toxic.

[489] That stuff right there?

[490] I believe so.

[491] So pretty.

[492] Yeah, it is.

[493] Isn't it weird that a lot of really pretty things are fucking terrible for you?

[494] Uh -huh.

[495] Like girls?

[496] You could lose your house.

[497] Careful.

[498] The guys that are, like, are, like, not used to really hot girls.

[499] And you see it coming.

[500] When the guys you didn't get those girls in high school and college and then they, then what happens is they get famous and they're 38 and 40 and they're kind of dorky.

[501] Or rich.

[502] They don't have to be famous.

[503] And then they date that trophy wife, or they meet a girl in a strip club or whatever it is.

[504] You've got to be careful.

[505] I was at this steakhouse the other night in Beverly Hills, like a very swank place.

[506] I don't need to name the place.

[507] All right, sorry.

[508] Very swank establishment.

[509] But I was astonished by the number of disgusting men with attractive women.

[510] I was like, this is fascinating.

[511] Like, this guy, I hope he can play a mean set of drums or fucking belt out a great tune or something.

[512] I mean, how did he get her?

[513] Like, what's going on here?

[514] Just really, really rich guys.

[515] Oh, dude.

[516] In Beverly Hills, especially, that is where the oldest profession in the world is rampant.

[517] Just prostitution.

[518] It's a different kind of prostitution because it's legal.

[519] You're just professional girlfriends and wives for, like, really ugly dudes.

[520] It's a girl you keep.

[521] Mad cash.

[522] I buy her, she's got an apartment.

[523] She's got a house.

[524] I mean, she's got a car.

[525] We were there.

[526] Another thing we found fascinating was the amount of, Arab license plates, Saudi Arabian plates.

[527] They fly their fucking supercars over here.

[528] There was a Bigotty Veyron, which is a one point something million dollar car, this insane car.

[529] And the palace plate it said something palace, because I was with a friend who's Persian and he reads Arabic.

[530] And he said it said palace and then the number plate was like 222, 222 .22.

[531] Like that was the plate.

[532] It was all twos and it said palace.

[533] And it was just fucking I don't know, like one point something, million dollar car.

[534] Well, you like cars, right?

[535] I don't like those.

[536] What is that car?

[537] What is the point of that?

[538] Well, here's a problem with those cars.

[539] I mean, they're incredible pieces of technology.

[540] I mean, they're undeniable.

[541] The speed, the power, the opulence, the interior is gorgeous and beautiful.

[542] And, like, it's one of those things that Floyd Mayweather drives around in.

[543] But what I like is I like cars that are tactile.

[544] I don't even necessarily like new cars.

[545] I like, I'm moving towards.

[546] It's really dry.

[547] Yeah, I'm moving towards, like, older and older cars.

[548] Like, my Porsche is the newest car that I have.

[549] That's a 2007.

[550] And that's the last year that they made the GT3, or the last model, that they made the GT3 RS the way mine is.

[551] It doesn't have any, like, there's no stability control.

[552] There's some traction control, limited amount of traction control.

[553] That's it.

[554] It's a race car.

[555] And you can shut that off, and you're on your own.

[556] You just have this 520 -pound horsepower, ridiculously light car that you feel everything.

[557] Are you telling me you'd only waste 520 pounds?

[558] No, no, 520 horsepower.

[559] It's less than 3 ,000 pounds.

[560] Wow.

[561] But somewhere around 3 ,000 pounds.

[562] But what I'm interested in, honestly, is like 1970s cars, like 1970 Porsche, that's 2 ,000 pounds, like 1 ,000 pounds less and less powerful.

[563] But you feel everything, no power steering.

[564] You feel the fucking bumps of the car.

[565] You feel the road.

[566] You feel the, like literally you feel in your ass.

[567] Tactiles is right word for that.

[568] Yeah.

[569] You feel when the car's rear end is breaking.

[570] You feel when the tires are losing traction, you're sliding a little bit.

[571] That's fun.

[572] Yeah.

[573] Like all this other shit.

[574] It's physical.

[575] They're all computers.

[576] It's like, like I drove a Nissan GTR.

[577] Do you know what one of those are?

[578] No. It's this incredibly technologically sophisticated rocket ship that Nissan's built.

[579] It's almost like a proof of concept vehicle.

[580] They almost like they lose money on it.

[581] It's a flagship vehicle and it's so fucking unbelievably ridiculous.

[582] competently competent and fast.

[583] That car right there goes zero to 60 in less than three seconds.

[584] It's pretty understated.

[585] It's not like...

[586] Well, it's, it's, everything's functional.

[587] That car, it's not about, like, I think it looks cool because it looks like a spaceship.

[588] Yeah.

[589] But everything about it is about aerodynamics and about keeping the body pinned to the ground.

[590] It's heavy.

[591] It's about 3 ,900 pounds.

[592] So it's like 900 pounds more than my car is.

[593] And it's four -wheel drive, which like race car drivers traditionally like a rear wheel drive car because they like the feel that it's pushing instead of pulling they like to the control that you get because you can kind of steer with a throttle if you know as you're going into a turn there's a thing called oversteer right so if you're going into a turn and uh as you're going into a turn you can hit the gas and your ass end will kick out and it'll change the angle of your entry into the turn you got to know how to do it just right you have to have this feels like you got to know like it's more fun than anything because really the correct line if you're on a race course is to have no no ass hand kick out like you want it you want everything to be glued every time your ass hand kicks out if you're racing you're going to lose seconds but for fun like guys who love like those kind of like like a 9 -11 like a 1970 9 -11 one of the things they like the ass end will kick out like this is got chris harris i've had him in here call it tail happy it's yeah it's it's oversteer yeah chris harris harris is a very famous uh automotive journalist from the uh uk and he takes it to the next level he likes to power slide around corners yeah it's amazing i well watching him do it he's an artist at it and he's going around corners in these cars every car he reviews he takes and he power slides like everywhere it's just fras just power sliding these fucking things like go Chris Harris, GT3RS, 2016 GT3RS.

[594] He's literally going sideways around corners with a 500 -horsepower, $200 ,000 Porsche that they let him borrow.

[595] That's badass.

[596] So they let him borrow this car.

[597] Just beating the fuck out of it everywhere he goes.

[598] No, that's an old one.

[599] No, no, look up, that's my year.

[600] That's like a 2007.

[601] 2016 GT3.

[602] Go down there.

[603] So it says Gt3RS accelerations and power slide.

[604] Yeah, you can see it probably over there.

[605] You won't see Chris Harris do it, but you'll see a car that does it.

[606] And the idea is that these guys go around these fucking corners, and they go around these corners using the ass end of the car, like using...

[607] No, let me see if they do it later.

[608] But anyway, it's just fun.

[609] Look, Chris Harris, GT3RS, 2016.

[610] Google that.

[611] And then you'll see, uh -huh, Chris Harris on cars.

[612] Top one.

[613] Top one, yeah.

[614] Now go like three quarters of the way in there, and you'll see him on a racetrack with it even further.

[615] Here's this crazy fucker.

[616] Like, this guy's a madman, and he just knows how to drive.

[617] Yeah, he does.

[618] See, right there, he's just leaving a little bit of rubber.

[619] he's just trying to go fast as fast as he can see how he's taking these lines the outside to the inside it's all about trying to go around corners in as straight a line as possible so that you have as little pressure on the tires sideways as possible and it's all about like choosing the correct line to go around the corners most efficiently he couldn't be more macho by the way no he's not he's a gentleman he's like a thug no he's not in real life though But here, like, see all that rubber?

[620] Look, he's going sideways around that corner.

[621] See that?

[622] Damn!

[623] Give some volume so you can hear that.

[624] Because he's having a great fucking...

[625] Oh, we won't even hear it.

[626] We don't have our headsets on.

[627] Traction is just mega.

[628] And you get that lovely little slippy feeling on the exit.

[629] Slippy feeling.

[630] That guy fucking loves cars.

[631] See that?

[632] I feel compared to a standard EG3.

[633] Motor's got more mid -range.

[634] Really thumps you out.

[635] Definitely has more traction.

[636] See, if you have more traction.

[637] See, if you have more traction.

[638] have a car and you're selling it, you want a motherfucker like this reviewing it.

[639] This guy loves cars.

[640] He loves them.

[641] And he's smart as shit.

[642] He really understands automobiles.

[643] It's funny how you have, when you talk like this, you sound really, really smart.

[644] Oh, yeah, man. That's why they sell fucking mops with that voice.

[645] Do you want this mop?

[646] This is the very best mop in the world.

[647] Much more sophisticated than that mop you're going to buy.

[648] It's right.

[649] It's a simulated to musk ox and it's got really fantastic sopping ability.

[650] See, you don't find a thrill in this sort of automobotive fuckery.

[651] There's nothing about this.

[652] This is appealing to you.

[653] Look at that power slide.

[654] If Bernard Hopkins is talking about how he sets up his jab, that's interesting to me. How is this not interesting to you?

[655] I've never been interested in cars.

[656] You've got a broken gene or something wrong with you.

[657] You're not even American.

[658] I know.

[659] You're born in another country.

[660] That's what it is.

[661] Well, no, but other countries.

[662] Remember, other countries like in Europe?

[663] What country, though?

[664] I was born in the Philippines?

[665] That's the thing.

[666] Philippines, not known for their cars.

[667] I bet you get crazy when you see a scooter.

[668] I bet if you see like one of those...

[669] I do.

[670] I go crazy when I see a moped?

[671] When I see a rickshaw?

[672] I...

[673] You give him a raw coconut.

[674] He loses his fucking mind.

[675] Yeah, I just never...

[676] Maybe that's what it is.

[677] I was in a Bruce Lee.

[678] I was always in the physical things like that.

[679] Although, is race car driving a sport?

[680] Absolutely.

[681] I think so, right?

[682] 100%.

[683] It seems like it would be.

[684] I mean, it's you're managing your body.

[685] as well as managing an automobile.

[686] Without a doubt.

[687] Formula One's got to be a sport.

[688] Well, it's all your own movements.

[689] Your movements are dictating the movements of the car.

[690] Your movements of the wheel, especially in the old days when they would actually shift with a clutch.

[691] Now everything's paddle shifters.

[692] Why do you think Formula One is so huge in Europe and everywhere else and not at all in the United States?

[693] Because we got our own NASCAR up in this bitch, son.

[694] Is that big?

[695] I guess it is.

[696] It's huge.

[697] If you ever go to the SACCard?

[698] Yeah, it's huge.

[699] You ever go to the radio in, like, Georgia?

[700] And they start talking about NASCAR, and you're like, what?

[701] Yeah.

[702] Do you see what the hell did last weekend?

[703] I'll tell you.

[704] Boy, let me tell you what.

[705] That guy knows how to drive a car.

[706] I'll tell you what, a car.

[707] Oh, he's driving a car.

[708] Who's Dale?

[709] You didn't see the NASCAR?

[710] Isn't NASCAR not as technical?

[711] Isn't it kind of like?

[712] All I know is they let checks do it now, so.

[713] So they let girls do it.

[714] and you know something's up with that sport seems like i could probably do it better since i do have a penis are they compete with men think of all they claim to be uh i think that danica patrick chick she wins that's downright on america but she's tough as shit man she's probably the ronda rousey of race car driving yeah knows how to do it easy on the eyes too not a bad looking gal not at all that's a tough fucking sport though for sure it's it's you got to maintain your nerves.

[715] You've got to figure out when to hit the gas, when to hit the brakes.

[716] You've got to know when to make your move.

[717] And you're piloting that fucking car.

[718] It's not automated in any way, shape, or form.

[719] It's all up to you to decide how to bust to move.

[720] It's super dangerous.

[721] And your reaction time means a lot, right?

[722] Do they have a clutch?

[723] Does NASCAR have a clutch?

[724] Do they have a, or those things, automatics?

[725] I think they got clutches.

[726] I would hope so.

[727] Being American and all.

[728] Being American.

[729] I'd hope they make those motherfuckers shift their own gears like Tom Cruise.

[730] and days of thunder nice car I'm only saying like power shifting maybe I don't think they don't have a clutch I don't know people are going to get mad What happened America What did we do With the left pedal We need the left pedal Bring back the left pedal Yeah man You some bitches You need to drive a fucking real car man You need to just go Go get yourself A Mustang GT 350 When they come out I gotta keep feeling it with gas man Shut the fuck up With this gas Jazz.

[731] What are you, what are you, what are you busy every minute of every day?

[732] I'm very busy.

[733] You can't stop at a gas station and put the fucking thing in the slot and go get yourself a Red Bull.

[734] I can't do it.

[735] Do you?

[736] You get swarmed?

[737] No. Yeah, Holy shit.

[738] It's Brian Cowan.

[739] It's the kid.

[740] It's the kid.

[741] Hey man. Jesus.

[742] What is that a Volkswagen?

[743] Is that a Pesat?

[744] Is that a diesel?

[745] No, I'm getting, I think I'm trying to get the Tesla.

[746] What do you think?

[747] Great car.

[748] I love it.

[749] Yeah, I would buy one.

[750] The only thing I wouldn't buy it for is if, like, you ever have to take your family out of the state if fucking shit hits the fan good luck oh i got another car for that we need another car for that yeah i got it to a highlander for that well that's a good move yeah those are great those are great cars yeah mean for a car around town it's awesome and you know the other thing is if you install solar on your house i did you could fucking power that thing easily with solar power just did that's pretty interesting i mean you i mean obviously costs money for the batteries and the setup and the maintenance and all that jazz but at the end of the day um once the money is spent on setting it up and the operating costs are fairly minimal in comparison to what it would cost to get electricity off the grid.

[751] You can be totally off the grid if you choose to be and you can also power your fucking car with all this shit and if the grid goes down you can keep your power.

[752] Like there's ways to set that up.

[753] I didn't.

[754] What's interesting is when you put solar panels in your house, which I did, just try getting, it'll take you the electric company, it's been three months now and they still haven't converted us.

[755] They just take their sweet time.

[756] What do you mean?

[757] They keep charging you?

[758] Yes, they have not yet given us the okay to switch over.

[759] What's the okay?

[760] They've got to just give you the okay.

[761] They have to give you some kind of a form.

[762] So are you still spending money on electricity?

[763] Yes, I am.

[764] But is the electricity being generated by solar or by?

[765] By them still.

[766] They will not let us turn ourselves on yet.

[767] What the fuck is that?

[768] Until we get a permit.

[769] And guess who has to do that?

[770] Some bureaucrat in the electric company.

[771] Whoa.

[772] So they're dragging their here.

[773] heels they're trying to keep people from going solar yes you sure about that yeah are you sure about that oil prices too man come yeah i know these things government tinfoil conspiracy i i follow these things i feel like there's got to be some way well look man here's how i feel like like as far as conspiracy is concerned i believe more in ignorance so uh you know government is my buddy who works i just uh was at his wedding and he said he goes if you think the government's really efficient and i he's talking about intelligence or any of that stuff he goes i've been in the inner circle.

[774] He said, it's not.

[775] You just have to work for the government to know.

[776] Yes, we do some cool stuff, but this, a lot of it's just not as organized.

[777] I'm sure.

[778] And I was thinking about this.

[779] Like, people tease me for being a history guy.

[780] I'm not like Dan Carlin, but I try to, you know, read my history.

[781] I was thinking about this.

[782] You know, this new Harvard study just came out and it said that 170 ,000, 170 ,000 veterans from our recent wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, starting in 2003.

[783] We have 170 ,000 people that are 70 % or more disabled.

[784] That is probably going to cost over their lifetime than the American economy, $6 trillion to care for those people, which according to the study, you could purse out to be $75 grand of an American family.

[785] Forget the cost.

[786] Forget the cost.

[787] Think about 170 ,000 people that are 70 % are more disabled.

[788] These are veterans.

[789] These are people that answered the call and they're all fucked up.

[790] And I was thinking about how, if the more you read about this war and how we got into it, a lot of it was because we didn't know the history of that country.

[791] And a lot of it was because we didn't know the history of the entire region.

[792] And I would make that argument.

[793] And my point is that it's really easy for all of us as voters to go about life without doing the right investigation.

[794] So when you vote for somebody and you vote for a policy, most of us vote on.

[795] along party lines because our team is over here because we're not a liberal or we're not a conservative, we're not a Republican, we're not a Democrat.

[796] Instead of looking at the world as, wait a minute, we're going to go into Iraq, hmm, that's an interesting thing, man. How much do we know about the history?

[797] How much do we know about how that country's structured?

[798] And how much do we know about what's going to happen when we destabilize that regime?

[799] And when most of Congress didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia, which is so important in Middle Eastern politics.

[800] That schism.

[801] And we're voting in these policies.

[802] And I think that we could have avoided some major tragedy.

[803] I don't know.

[804] You know, I'm just saying that the more you know, the less likely you are to make these major fucking mistakes.

[805] You know what's fucked too?

[806] Because you're kind of damned if you do and you're damned if you don't when it comes to Iraq.

[807] Because if you think about leaving that guy there, Saddam Hussein was a fucking piece of shit of epic proportion.

[808] And his children were absolute serial killers.

[809] Yes.

[810] His children, there is a story about him and his children from, I forget what magazine it was, maybe like Esquire or something like that from back in the day, GQ something.

[811] But it was a terrifying story of all the atrocities that his sons have committed, including taking women on their wedding day as they were being married, kidnapping them, raping them and then feeding them to dogs.

[812] Feeding the husband to dogs.

[813] Ure Hussain used to do all kinds of sadistic things.

[814] But think about the untold misery that that entire region now over the past 15 years, or actually 13 years, has dealt with.

[815] Yeah.

[816] Think about how many children and how many people.

[817] Think about the Yazidi women sold off into slavery by these ISIL assholes and the spawning of ISIL and whether or not there would have been a case.

[818] I think they need to fucking come up with a standardized name.

[819] I'm tired of hearing ISIL, ISIS, ISS.

[820] Just say Islamic State.

[821] The space station.

[822] There's too many different.

[823] There are.

[824] There's too many fucking.

[825] Isis, Isol, yeah.

[826] What the fuck?

[827] You're the first guy I've ever heard say Isol.

[828] I've seen it written.

[829] I'm like, what is this?

[830] You know?

[831] I said it because it sounds fancy because I don't know what all.

[832] It's like when John Cougar Mellencamp turned into John Mellencamp.

[833] Remember?

[834] Yeah.

[835] What the fuck?

[836] He made a stand.

[837] He made a stand.

[838] He used to be John Cougar Melanchamp.

[839] No, he was John Mellencamp, right?

[840] No, he was John Cougar first.

[841] No, he was John Cougar Melanchamp, wasn't he?

[842] Then he changed the job.

[843] The first time he came out, I want to say he was John Cougar.

[844] And then he became John Cougar.

[845] His real name is John Mellencamp, obviously.

[846] Yeah.

[847] But he became...

[848] Oh, so he changed...

[849] Oh, no. He didn't give himself the name Cougar.

[850] No, no, no. I believe that the record company did.

[851] Here we go.

[852] Well, that's terrible.

[853] Little Did he.

[854] By the way, great song.

[855] John Cougar titled Miami in Australia.

[856] What?

[857] Yeah, it's 1979.

[858] It's called Miami in Australia?

[859] They call his album Miami or he's Miami.

[860] I don't know.

[861] Wait.

[862] But wait.

[863] John Cougar.

[864] John Cougar.

[865] I would have told the record company to go, fuck.

[866] That's a terrible.

[867] So the album is called Miami if you're in Australia.

[868] Australia's like, yeah, mate, we're not going to buy it, mate.

[869] Brian Tiger.

[870] This whole thing with John Cougar, just John Cougar, it's not good enough.

[871] Mate, we need something spicy.

[872] What you name it after Miami?

[873] Change your name of Joe Panther.

[874] We've seen girls from Miami.

[875] They have big asses.

[876] We like that.

[877] Call it Miami.

[878] We'll sell more.

[879] It's a terrible Australian accent.

[880] I did my best.

[881] That's a hard one I only have a few Australian friends I need to call them It's a hard one It's a hard one Turn of the shimp on the bobby Oh by the way My second show for Melbourne is almost sold out So If you're thinking about going You fucks You better act now First one sold out Selling out over oceans Very close to selling out Nice I haven't been in Melbourne Never I'm excited It's supposed to be like The San Francisco Of Australia Really Like sophisticated and very just rich in culture.

[882] They supposedly have an amazing food scene.

[883] Like the food in Melbourne is supposed to be spectacular.

[884] I keep hearing that.

[885] I saw an Anthony Bourdain episode about it too.

[886] He went there and sampled some of the cuisine.

[887] I've not watched enough of Anthony or Bourdain.

[888] He's the best.

[889] I love the shit out of it, too.

[890] He's my boyfriend.

[891] You love him?

[892] He's great.

[893] He's 58 years old.

[894] The guy gets into Jiu -Jitsu, who just earns his blue belt.

[895] It's fantastic.

[896] He's a junkie when he was younger, like almost overdosed and died, smoked cigarettes until he had a kid.

[897] kid had the kid said you know what I got to quit smoking cigarettes had a kid like it was 50 you know I mean I just love him it's a great second act a bad motherfucker and it's also I like the fact that he's a real artist like with food he made me watching his show the no reservation show maybe reconsider what food is not not you know I always appreciated food but I always said oh this guy this restaurant's great like we used to go to great restaurants all the time and we'd be like oh I found this great Italian place we'd go have a bottle of wine oh this food's awesome but I didn't think the food as the artistry yes yeah the creativity that goes into like changing something turning it on its ear yeah like i had i had a at this wedding i had some salmon and some steak and some steak is pretty standard and i and i had and i've been alive a long time and i eat that salmon and that steak with a certain sauce on it and i stopped i stopped and i went all right hold on something is going on here and and i'm i'm i'm having a little issue because i've never had salmon like this and for me to say I've never had sandwich I've eaten one million times or I've never had steak to taste like this that's a big fucking deal especially because I really have paid attention and I ran down there and I saw this cook with a ponytail kind of a skinny dude and I was like what are you doing what happened?

[898] He goes oh do you like it?

[899] I said yeah I like it it's a little transcendent that's how if you know me I'll get exaggerated and I even and I said and correct me if I'm wrong sir but you cut small pieces here and you are taking into consideration the relationship between the meat and your crazy delicious yam cake yeah and your and and this sauce that looks like it was made in heaven i've never seen green that you let you kind of spill just so it looked like oh it looks like a it looked like a fucking green pond that i could drink from me Meanwhile, he goes, he looks at me and he goes, yes.

[900] He said, relationship is very important as his proportion.

[901] Most people think they need to create a big piece.

[902] But the minute you see it, I go, I finish the sentence.

[903] I go, I want more.

[904] He goes, exactly.

[905] Here's why he's wrong, because he's never had barbecue in Texas.

[906] If he did, he would want to eat until his fucking body wanted to explode.

[907] I had a bunch of fixings.

[908] I went to this place called Blacks that was outside of Austin.

[909] It is the oldest barbecue place.

[910] in Texas.

[911] I put a picture of it up on my Instagram of the food.

[912] Me and Aubrey and my buddy Ben O 'Brien, we had the most insane beef ribs I've ever eaten in my life.

[913] Beef ribs are generally kind of chewy.

[914] Not these fucking things.

[915] They cooked them for years.

[916] They shot that cow in the 80s and they've been cooking them ever since.

[917] Aubrey brought some into the office.

[918] I think it was from blacks.

[919] He's the best one of him ever had.

[920] He brought it from Fredericks, which is another insane place in, but that's in Austin.

[921] See that on the left, that piece of meat?

[922] That was so fucking insanely tender and delicious.

[923] That place, it's, apparently it's a real landmark in Texas blacks.

[924] Like, everything else was really good.

[925] Like, the spare ribs were good.

[926] The brisket was really good.

[927] But God damn, if you go there, you got to fuck with those beef ribs.

[928] They're insane.

[929] Like, we were all just blown away.

[930] Like, the three of us were like, what the fuck, man?

[931] And we ate until we almost exploded.

[932] Yeah, that looks ridiculous.

[933] Yeah.

[934] That, go, go eat at blacks, and then go to the Honor Academy, and go have John Wolfe take you through one workout.

[935] Oh, he's great.

[936] Dude.

[937] He's great.

[938] I was like, hey, John, what do you?

[939] Like, first of all, he couldn't be thicker.

[940] I was like, what do you?

[941] What's your nationality?

[942] He's very flexible.

[943] He's ridiculously flexible with long arms.

[944] He's like, yeah, I'm Japanese, Mexican, and English.

[945] Interesting.

[946] Very warlike combination of people.

[947] He's the sweetest guy ever.

[948] He's the last guy I would ever call warlike.

[949] No, sweetest shit, but can put you in a world of pain with no weight.

[950] Just using body weight.

[951] Oh, yeah.

[952] He has a crazy hip complex series that he does.

[953] Which we did.

[954] Yeah.

[955] Oh, it's amazing, right?

[956] It's so weird.

[957] Like, you get weird pain afterward.

[958] You're like, ow, why is it inside of my dick hurting?

[959] It's like, it's so true.

[960] It makes you do all this crazy shit with your legs.

[961] He's like, we're just going to take into some mobility exercises.

[962] I was like, all right.

[963] Well, Aubrey and I were there for my show.

[964] I did a show at the Moody Theater, which is insane.

[965] Probably one of the best shows of my life.

[966] It was amazing.

[967] It's crazy.

[968] God damn.

[969] of Austin, Texas.

[970] Set away.

[971] Fuck, I love that place.

[972] But we did this place, this Moody Theater.

[973] And before the theater, we worked out at the Anit Gym and then went to the Zero Gravity Float Spa that they have there.

[974] So I had a perfect day.

[975] But when we were there, John was doing his certification seminars.

[976] He does these on it certification seminars and shows these potential trainers, people that want a career in the fitness industry.

[977] Yeah.

[978] Shows them all sorts of different ways to work out.

[979] He's a scientist.

[980] Oh, yeah.

[981] You know, I was telling you about this guy working out with Lou Parada, who is old school bodybuilder, strong man. He's 60, almost 59.

[982] How's you look?

[983] He looks fantastic.

[984] He's originally from North Italy, so he's got that Austrian, like he's just got huge hands and a big, kind of strong jaw.

[985] Still works out like crazy?

[986] Oh, yeah.

[987] But when you say crazy, like, he's the guy that'll take you for 20 minutes and work you out and target your muscles in a certain way.

[988] And you're like, this isn't doing, I just feel like I could do more.

[989] and then the next day you're sore shit like he just he's a scientist he knows he's got 160 clients and it's because he just knows what the hell he's doing and you're in and out in 20 25 minutes well if you could still look good in your 60s oh he looks fantastic ripped what's his dick taste like I'm glad you asked we don't I don't do that fucking child I'm I couldn't I was like I shouldn't ask that you have to I always do that's all I do that's all I do I'm such an idiot I'm such an idiot So what does he look like In his 60s Pull a picture of this gentleman up He's 60 Lou Parada Perata P -Fid Jim on Lincoln if you guys want to go work out of him I'm always impressed with dudes Who are in their 60s He's he's 59 Like Steve Maxwell Deep in his 60s Is he?

[990] 65 That dude's a stud It's an animal All he does Goes all over the world And trains people Just the little seminars So what's his philosophy?

[991] he's a fascinating guy he has a lot of philosophies he's a very intelligent guy he's very well read when it comes to uh ancient methods of fitness and there he is that guy's that guy's 60 years old yep he looks great i know he does that's amazing oh that's he looks better than red band dude i can't believe he's on that yeah he looks amazing dude yeah his skin looks great yep he's he's he eats a lot of fruits and vegetables some meat he's working on that posture though what's up with that neck forward thing he's got That's not going on there.

[992] Straighten up, fellow.

[993] He's been working out his whole life.

[994] Straight up.

[995] And he knows more about shit.

[996] He can do shit to you.

[997] And by the way, that's exactly what he looks like right now.

[998] And he can do shit to you that just, he just targets those muscles.

[999] So this is just, he's giving people a stair workout.

[1000] All he's doing here is warming you up.

[1001] You run maybe 10 stairs just to warm up.

[1002] You're not going to stretch beforehand.

[1003] He warms the muscles up.

[1004] And then you just start slowly lifting.

[1005] And then by the time 20 minutes is over, you're begging for mercy.

[1006] Yeah, they say not to stretch now before lifting weights.

[1007] And that stretching actually can take away some of your performance.

[1008] Yeah.

[1009] The problem with that is, I wonder if that's the case with martial arts.

[1010] Because, I mean, I think there's a reason why people in ballet and dance and gymnastics stretch, I don't know how to gymnastics.

[1011] I might have made that up.

[1012] But certainly dance, they stretch before they work out.

[1013] They stretch before they practice.

[1014] Yes.

[1015] Because I think martial arts, there's a certain amount of flexibility that's necessary to achieve, like, that fluid motion.

[1016] Like, if you're bound up and tense and tight, you're not going to have the same sort of dexterity.

[1017] You're not going to have the same ability to place your foot wherever you want it to.

[1018] You're going to be, there's going to be some resistance.

[1019] But that resistance might actually be okay if you're doing something like squatting or jumping.

[1020] Right.

[1021] You know what I mean?

[1022] Like, I think there's a different need that the body has when it comes to, like, I've always been, like, real skeptical of people telling me not to stretch.

[1023] There's a way to stretch, I think.

[1024] And I do agree.

[1025] I think it depends on the kind of, movement you're doing and stuff.

[1026] But they say the first thing you want to do is warm the muscle up, but also overstretching.

[1027] A lot of yoga people develop arthritic conditions because the tendons are genetically, you know, you either have longer tendons or shorter tendons.

[1028] So in other words, like a hinge of a door.

[1029] Some people can only open their door this much.

[1030] Other people can open their door all the way.

[1031] Like you have very flexible, you're really flexible.

[1032] And so when people overstretch those tendons, what happens is if the tendon is shorter and you're trying to make it longer what will happen is the joint will start to compromise and you'll pull more of the joint therefore you get water or or or air into that joint which apparently is what creates an arthritic condition so when you're constantly expanding and not doing some contractual work that's where you're so it's like yoga people they're not lifting weights as well is that what it is yeah if you're stretching too much and it does it doesn't it does weaken the muscle when you're stretching on you know cold when you're cold and you're stretching and then you go and play soccer a lot of lot of girls especially were tearing their ACL and then when they had them start changing the way they trained more weightlifting more more warming the muscle up beforehand that's how they were avoiding more of those ACL tears that's fascinating yeah it's it's interesting how they learn you do thank you keep going it's interesting how they learn too it's like they almost have to like watch people fuck up and go hmm what's he doing wrong like why is he getting injured you know one of That's kind of how I feel about everything in life.

[1033] Sure.

[1034] Like the next time we go into a war, like I was talking about, I hope that we learn and we go, what's the history of the region?

[1035] I mean, you learn by mistakes.

[1036] You learned the hard way.

[1037] Well, you should listen to Dan Carlin's series on World War I. Have you heard it yet?

[1038] I have.

[1039] I haven't.

[1040] I remember when he was talking about the difference between the World War I and the previous wars.

[1041] And that, like, they had all these ideas about war.

[1042] Chivalry, honor, standing up in the fire.

[1043] All that shit went away.

[1044] Had no right.

[1045] Well, because with a machine gun, you all die.

[1046] Yeah.

[1047] Well, not only that.

[1048] They started introducing things like...

[1049] Bombs and gas.

[1050] Yeah.

[1051] Fritz Harbor.

[1052] Well, Fritz Harbor was a fascinating character.

[1053] Yeah, because you know that Fritz Harbor...

[1054] The most fascinating.

[1055] Yeah, because he figured out a way to take nitrogen out of the air, create ammonia.

[1056] This is from Radio Lab.

[1057] And that ammonia is what...

[1058] They think that half the population of the world today has Fritz -Hawber nitrogen in their bloodstream.

[1059] The reason we can feed seven billion people in...

[1060] soon 10 billion, is primarily because the process for its Hobber invented, which is getting nitrogen out of the air and into the soil, which is how you create fertilizer.

[1061] Problem is, it's also how you create explosives and poison gas.

[1062] Well, he was the first one to figure that out, how to use poison gas on troops.

[1063] Chlorine gas.

[1064] So while he was being awarded a Nobel Prize of science for creating the Hobber method, he was also being wanted for war crimes by the United States by gassing people and the way they died apparently if you listen to the radio lab podcast they drown in their own phlegm well how about what they what they do how they end it which is he created an insecticide called cyclone a which is an insecticide and the reason it has zyclone is because it has a certain smell to it you put a you put a scent in it so you know when it's in the air to avoid that area the way they do with gasoline gasoline doesn't have have that scent.

[1065] They put that scent in there.

[1066] That's an artificial scent, so you know if there's a gas leak.

[1067] And the same was Zyklon A. When the Nazis were figuring out what to do with their quote -unquote Jewish problem, and they talked about the final solution, they said, let's use this Zyclon A and take the scent out.

[1068] It'll be Zyclan B. And the irony is, Pritzhaber, who was a secular Jew, who was a patriot, a German patriot, who figured out a way to feed half the world his technology ended up killing his extended family and his friends it's kind of crazy man it's yeah he actually wound up leaving germany and he was ostracized by the rest of the world it's a fascinating podcast it's called the bad podcast yeah um it's one of the radio lab ones that uh is amazing there's a great one they got out now about elements about this woman who was going crazy and uh lithium was the only thing that uh she's bipolar lithium brings her way back to normal.

[1069] Lithium is just an element.

[1070] Is it?

[1071] It's a salt, apparently.

[1072] I didn't know that.

[1073] I thought lithium was like some sort of chemical.

[1074] You need to listen to it.

[1075] Did you listen to CRISPR?

[1076] But this lithium thing that she's taking is killing her.

[1077] It's killing her.

[1078] It's causing her kidneys to fail.

[1079] So she has to get off the lithium.

[1080] And so they're talking to her while this is going on.

[1081] In the podcast, she's saying, like, this is so complicated for me because this is one thing that's killing me, but it's also allowing me to be me. Really, really fascinating.

[1082] God damn.

[1083] Yeah, CRISPR would have talked.

[1084] talked about it a few times in this podcast, the ability to manipulate genes.

[1085] And this is the beginning.

[1086] CRISPR, if you've never heard that one, that's another great one.

[1087] Radio Lab is the shit.

[1088] It's a fucking amazing podcast.

[1089] It really is.

[1090] So interesting, you know, so many fascinating, fascinating subjects they cover.

[1091] What would you do if they could manipulate your genes?

[1092] What do you want different?

[1093] It's going to be a real problem when people do do it.

[1094] Because there's going to be no regular people left.

[1095] I think we're looking at life now as if you go back to, the early forms of life that were on this planet just single -celled organisms turn into multi -celled organisms they evolve from random mutations and natural selection and all the different various factors that cause a person to come out of the primordial slime that we originated from if you look at what we are now we look at all that is like this is like how it progresses you know this is how a dinosaur turns into a bird and this is oh we can see these are the early primates you're speaking about evolution and you know most of the Republican candidates I don't want to talk about that.

[1096] This is crazy.

[1097] If you look at all that stuff, we look at this timeline.

[1098] This is long, slow, crazy timeline.

[1099] It's really difficult to trace for the average human mind.

[1100] You know, you look at a primate, and you look at a human.

[1101] You go, well, human used to be something like that a long time ago.

[1102] What?

[1103] Fuck.

[1104] And you know, we see pictures of cave people.

[1105] We kind of get it, but that's 60 ,000 years ago.

[1106] We said, well, that 100 ,000 years ago, million years ago, whatever the fuck it was.

[1107] It seems so long, it's hard, it doesn't really register.

[1108] It's like when someone says a trillion dollars, like, um, okay, a trillion years, I don't get it.

[1109] You know, it's going to happen like that.

[1110] There's going to come along technology, yes, and I think it's only one part of the bigger problem.

[1111] I think in our ability to control our own bodies is just a part of the evolution of technology.

[1112] And the evolution of technology that allows us to do that is also going to, create artificial life which is many many more times complicated well it takes the element of chance out of the entire equation yeah so when we're able to control exactly how we look and what we develop into and what we are resistant to it's kind of like what we're doing with crops and i think i also i feel like we are we are going to be able to take this machine which is what we are which is kind of a fascinating and incredibly complex machine but technology is going to render this machine kind of obsolete, I feel like.

[1113] I feel like ultimately we're going to trade in this machine for something that works a lot more efficiently and lives longer and all that stuff.

[1114] If you could do it, why not?

[1115] Yeah, but that's even assuming that what we are is going to maintain.

[1116] I don't think, I think we are a technological caterpillar.

[1117] That's what I think.

[1118] I think we're a caterpillar that becomes a butterfly.

[1119] And right now we're in the middle of making a cocoon.

[1120] That's really interesting.

[1121] I just don't think this is a good design.

[1122] You mean mentally.

[1123] I think life.

[1124] Yeah.

[1125] I think if we create artificial life, we create some sort of an artificial thing that somehow another profits on it staying alive.

[1126] Like there's a reason why we want to stay alive.

[1127] We want to procreate.

[1128] We're going to keep the human race alive.

[1129] And we want to react to all of our instincts, all of our natural instincts and the natural reward systems that have been put in place over the eons to make sure that we keep breeding and keep staying alive.

[1130] That's where your ego comes from.

[1131] That's where lust comes from and greed and jealousy.

[1132] All these things are like, they're motivating factors for you to improve on your condition.

[1133] And keep fucking and keep making more babies.

[1134] Why are they covering thy neighbor's wife?

[1135] Why?

[1136] Because he want to fuck that bitch and shoot some loads into her and make a baby with her.

[1137] Got to make babies.

[1138] You got to keep going.

[1139] I think that's a really shitty design.

[1140] And I think it ultimately, its main goal is to, for it, for the biological entity to create a more sophisticated and much more efficient entity.

[1141] And that's what it's going to do.

[1142] This is the caterpillar.

[1143] And this caterpillar is going to become some indescribable butterfly, some butterfly that can manipulate its environment like never before, some butterfly that literally creates worlds.

[1144] If you, well, if you extrapolate that.

[1145] And if you then say, look, I have, all my biological needs are taken care of.

[1146] So I don't have to worry about disease.

[1147] I don't have to worry about food.

[1148] And I'm optimal.

[1149] I'm at my optimal.

[1150] My machine can adapt and it probably won't die.

[1151] You're still left with something that's very interesting to me, which is now, now if you've taken out the equation, that sort of rudimentary need to procreate, that rudimentary need to replicate yourself, that rudimentary need to sort of, or rudimentary might be the wrong word, but the need to be immortal, to keep your genes through whatever, it is going.

[1152] Then you're kind of left with yourself and why.

[1153] Right.

[1154] You know, like what am I doing?

[1155] Pleasure.

[1156] Well, what is.

[1157] Well, no, pleasure's different.

[1158] I think pleasure.

[1159] Where are you getting, but positive experiences, right?

[1160] Fun, excitement, pleasure.

[1161] To what end, positive?

[1162] To get to know yourself better?

[1163] What are those things?

[1164] The question is, what are those things?

[1165] What are those things?

[1166] What are ultimately going to lead to procreation.

[1167] Bonding leads to community, community leads to safety, safety leads to your children surviving.

[1168] All those things are connected.

[1169] Procreation, acquiring of things, becoming more valuable as a member of your community and more desirable as a possible breeding candidate.

[1170] All those things, they all contribute to ultimately to procreation.

[1171] That's like a big part of what everything that we do is.

[1172] But then there's another side, which is play you could define as that what you do for the sake of doing.

[1173] Right.

[1174] And that's probably when you're most yourself.

[1175] So if play is the case, then it seems like we were just talking about this.

[1176] Like people say, I don't know what to do with my life.

[1177] And I always say the younger people, I'm like, look, man, I don't know what to do with your life either.

[1178] But I do know that it's really fun to get good at a language.

[1179] Like watching you play pool, that's a language.

[1180] That's something you've come very close to being as really, really good at.

[1181] And you have a deep understanding of it.

[1182] You gain a deep understanding, this great pleasure in being fluent in a language like, say, pool, or jujitsu, or boxing, or even another language, or in an instrument like guitar.

[1183] I think you develop an understanding, and sometimes that you can't necessarily put into words, it's something you have to experience, but God damn it, is it satisfying?

[1184] And it's satisfying in and of itself.

[1185] Okay, but why?

[1186] Well, okay, so here's my answer.

[1187] I think, well, I don't have the answer, but I think it may lie in the area of understanding and coming closer to something maybe people call consciousness, a coming closer to something that's bigger than yourself, communion with something that is without measure, but that you know is there.

[1188] Don't you think, though, also, that if you don't look at it like in some sort of spiritual, way, but look it in terms of just biology and natural reward systems that are put into place by success, success leading to procreation.

[1189] People that are really good at things.

[1190] You get good at things that are difficult to solve.

[1191] Solving puzzles is integral to survival.

[1192] It's integral to innovation leads to more efficiency, more efficiency leads to more food.

[1193] More food leads to people staying alive.

[1194] The better you get at something, the more you're rewarded with those positive feelings, those natural award systems that are put in place to make sure that people figure out their fucking part on this world, figure out their way through this life until they can invent artificial life.

[1195] Get them hooked on material possessions.

[1196] Get them hooked on this idea of getting the newest, greatest, latest shit.

[1197] Get them hooked on technology.

[1198] You need a watch that you can swipe and you need all these different new crazy things.

[1199] And the more these things get fueled, the more the more the technology.

[1200] grows the more the technology grows the more the inevitability of an artificial life form exists okay but but here's here's what here's what I'm so blown away right now me too man but here take your pants up for a second here's a camera right oh boy shit here's where her trip trip sorry I'm 48 trip no shots here's here's what what I think though so when you talk about technology most of us are talking about a tool you can use for the here and now.

[1201] And that technology allows you to speak to people more clearly and faster and get places faster and all that stuff.

[1202] They're all tools.

[1203] But then there's another side to fucking reality that I'm fascinated with.

[1204] And I don't know why it's there.

[1205] But there's something that goes beyond experience.

[1206] There's a reality that is beyond experience.

[1207] And you know what I mean by that?

[1208] I'll tell you.

[1209] The number infinity is not something we'll ever see.

[1210] But it's something we imagine and something we use in mathematics.

[1211] Negative numbers, negative integers and things are mathematical constructs that you can't actually see and don't have material measurement necessarily, but they are theoretical and we use them and benefit from it.

[1212] Here's another great example.

[1213] The mathematician in 1860, who spends his whole life thinking of some weird mathematical equation.

[1214] It's got no bearing on the material world whatsoever until 150 years later, and now we're using it to measure the difference between fucking, you know, the crater on Mars and how it relates to things like that.

[1215] And I just think that sometimes whatever human beings have an imagination, it's put there.

[1216] The imagination is put there somewhere.

[1217] And I'm not getting into this mystical stuff.

[1218] I'm just saying, I am curious to know why, why we have what separates us from animals is potential, is anything we can imagine seems to be within our reach in terms of reality.

[1219] And I think, yes, and I think that nostalgia, that need to go physically further than we've ever gone before and mentally further than we've ever gone before, there is no limit to human potential.

[1220] There seems to be zero limit to human potential, to the point where we will render ourselves, our very biology, and even our mental paradigms obsolete, where we will achieve immortality.

[1221] But wait a minute, will we be we then.

[1222] Exactly.

[1223] But we won't.

[1224] We won't be something better.

[1225] That's what I mean.

[1226] And what will be is something that we create.

[1227] So you're essentially agreeing with me. I fucking am.

[1228] We're going to create an artificial life form.

[1229] Well, that artificial life form might be the butterfly, right?

[1230] Yes.

[1231] If we need absolutely to constantly innovate, and we do.

[1232] No one is ever going to look at a computer and say, we're done.

[1233] No one's going to look at an iPhone and say, there's no need for the 6S, the 6 is perfect, let's stop there.

[1234] Who needs 12 megapixels?

[1235] I got 8, I'm happy as fuck.

[1236] I take great Instagram pictures.

[1237] No, no one's going to be happy.

[1238] We're going to get bored.

[1239] And it's an inexorable part of being a human.

[1240] There's this weird thing you can't take out of us where we look with awe at the guy who decides to live in a log house and go fishing every day.

[1241] is the guy lives off the land what like they're so freaky that we have tv shows dedicated to them yes like let's watch these people in alaska well they're walking anachronisms those are those are like throwbacks right i mean that's what's interesting is that they're they're bucking the grid and saying i can still do it the way we did 150 years there's that and there's also the fact that they're out there braving the wild they're braving the atmosphere they're braving the harsh parts of the world that we don't want to visit like too like that's the whole thing about life below zero that show that i love yeah it's 200 hundred fucking miles above the arctic circles where these people live some of them you know i mean fuck man sue aiken's a chick that i had on the show she's amazing if you've never listened to that podcast it's one of the best ones i ever did really oh my gosh it's a fascinating woman man she's in her 50s lives up in alaska by herself in this fucking you can't even have buildings up there because it's it's it's on this land that has to have temporary structures because of whatever goofy fucking others in place.

[1242] So she has tents.

[1243] They're these giant tents with like hoop wires and very thick canvas.

[1244] But they're fucking tense man. And she's out there with grizzly bears and wolves.

[1245] And everywhere she goes, she's strapped.

[1246] She got attacked by a bear.

[1247] Fucking bitter head, broke her hip, fucked her up.

[1248] She went to the hospital.

[1249] I mean, she was fucking on her back for like seven days before they found her.

[1250] She went to the hospital got fixed up, went back, shot the fucking bear and ate it.

[1251] she's the most gangster bitch on the planet she's like right up there with ronda rousie i was going to say she's so gangst she's ronda if she's 50 this chick is hard fucking core fascinating though like that this woman chooses that's where she's getting her jollies there's her that's her i love that lady that's uh that's her house man that's her fucking house it's where she lives got like a wooden side the top of that is all cloth it's a tent she lives up there alone yes she gets a doesn't she occasionally has visitors and no she travels she She has children and grandchildren.

[1252] She does whatever the fuck she wants.

[1253] But that's what those things look like.

[1254] They're temporary structures.

[1255] She gets her gas flowing in, these gigantic planes, and she fills planes up.

[1256] She's like a waypoint.

[1257] She owns like a filling station up there, and that's how she makes her living.

[1258] And she also, people can come stay in, like, she has structures up there.

[1259] They can come stay in cariboo hunt and do a bunch of different things, and she'll take people on, like, guided tours of the area now.

[1260] It's especially, look at that.

[1261] There's the place where she lives.

[1262] What's that?

[1263] It's amazing.

[1264] Oh, it's so amazing.

[1265] She's incredible.

[1266] But it's, she's not just dealing with the environment.

[1267] She's dealing with the animals.

[1268] She's dealing with mortality.

[1269] And, you know, she's lives a subsistence lifestyle up there.

[1270] Most of what she gets, either she gets flown in or she shoots it and eats it.

[1271] Go scroll back up to the top.

[1272] There was those, who are those people there?

[1273] She loves it too, huh?

[1274] Oh, yeah.

[1275] See, she provides, like, this says hunting and fishing.

[1276] No, those are caribou.

[1277] Those are caribou antlers.

[1278] They have these crazy antlers.

[1279] Those are actually reindeer.

[1280] I mean, that's what a reindeer is.

[1281] It's the relative of the reindeer.

[1282] Whoa.

[1283] Pretty similar.

[1284] So Kavik, where she's at, she has these hunting camps to come up there because these people, see, you have to, you have self -guided camps.

[1285] She just, the caribu are up there, and they go by every year.

[1286] There's like a time where they go up there.

[1287] It's like August or some shit.

[1288] And during that time, that's when they fly people up there and they go caribou.

[1289] hunting but they'll walk by in these massive herds hundreds and hundreds of caribou sometimes and you just lay down you pick one and you shoot it and you eat it and you get hundreds of pounds of the most delicious meat you'll ever eat in your life that's that's a moose actually yeah that's a that's a different animal but that's that's a moose too but the other one were caribou and they're they're unbelievably delicious too so are moose man i had some moose sirloin the other day that i cooked from last year when I shot that moose last year.

[1290] I cooked it the other day.

[1291] It's not a place for the vegan.

[1292] No, the food is so, that meat is so good.

[1293] Like you, if you ate at a restaurant, it'd be like your favorite meat ever.

[1294] But they can't, you don't sell moose commercially.

[1295] I still haven't gotten any from you.

[1296] Dude, come over, man. When are you coming over?

[1297] Come over.

[1298] Let's cook.

[1299] Maybe I'll do it today.

[1300] Come on over.

[1301] Let's do it.

[1302] Come on over.

[1303] I asked Tim Kennedy, I was watching, talking to him as he was cryotherapy.

[1304] I said, do you shiver?

[1305] He said, I do well with the cold.

[1306] You're such a fucking stud You get very excited by him Yes, he's my boyfriend Anthony Bourdain's yours And Tim Kennedy's mine I fantasized about just being buddies What would you guys do together most of the time?

[1307] Hunt wild boar on horseback with spears Duh That sounds like an ineffective way of doing it Shoot guns and then Cuddle and watch action films Why don't you just shoot the boar with guns If you have guns Because spears are more macho And you've got to have good Throwing motion Yeah Yeah, I've thought that about bow hunting.

[1308] Why bow hunt?

[1309] Why do you have to bow hunt?

[1310] Because it's more of a challenge, I guess.

[1311] But the idea of challenge is kind of dangerous if you're hunting.

[1312] I guess.

[1313] And also for the animal.

[1314] A lot of wounded.

[1315] I've been watching a lot of hunting shows where they show wounded animals with a bow hunting.

[1316] Do you think you get tired of, do you think like once the mystery of something goes away, you want to move on?

[1317] Like what is it about archery?

[1318] Oh, archery is a great discipline.

[1319] I love archery as a discipline.

[1320] Yeah.

[1321] It's a fun thing to do Like just shooting targets Come on over the house man We'll fucking shoot some targets today I'll have to get one of my little girl bows out for you to use I don't need the 60 pound the 90's too hard for me I don't use the 90 anymore I use it's a lot I think I can pull back a 70 couldn't I You might struggle You had a hard time with the 80 last time Yeah But it's hard man It's also something you shouldn't start out with Just start out with like a 40 or 50 Just to get used to that Yeah just get used to the motion And also get used to the fundamentals of archery You don't want to be struggling with the bow while you're learning how to do it.

[1322] I take creatine now.

[1323] Do you?

[1324] I do.

[1325] Makes you bigger?

[1326] Makes your face fat.

[1327] I'm a little thicker.

[1328] I'm carrying water weight.

[1329] You guys.

[1330] Makes your face buffy.

[1331] I look like I'm on my period.

[1332] But it's just a fun thing to do, like lining up the target, keeping everything straight.

[1333] And there's something that when you are doing something that's really difficult, like it's hard to get the arrow to go where you want it to go.

[1334] It takes a lot of practice.

[1335] I shoot about 100 arrows a day.

[1336] It's a lot.

[1337] I have archery targets all over my yard.

[1338] I have like five of them, six of them in one side.

[1339] I just ordered a giant elk.

[1340] It hasn't gotten here yet.

[1341] It's a fucking huge rubber elk.

[1342] Sounds like your priorities are where they should be.

[1343] For me, there are.

[1344] What I want to do?

[1345] I want a giant.

[1346] Who's this giant rubber elk for?

[1347] It's Joe Rogan.

[1348] Oh, yeah.

[1349] He's got a rubber pig as well.

[1350] They're very popular.

[1351] A lot of people have them.

[1352] A giant rubber elk?

[1353] That hunt with bow hunting with elk because you want to make sure that you're going to hit that spot you want to and looking at an animal is different than looking at a target you know and some like a lot of what archery is is repetition repetition and muscle memory and it's got to like be ingrained in your mind how you line a shot up and what what what what are the movements when you release that arrow see i love all that stuff yeah that's great i just like that's why like you know boxing i'm like working out with some like at box and burn this guy chris van eridan who's fighting for the i b i f o or ibo title he's defending his international title on spike tv what is it uh anyway um and he like just learning how like just like the intricacies of boxing i know i'm never going to master it or get really good at it but i just like reaching right i like just reaching it's if you think about it at 48 years old it's so ridiculous what's going to happen i'm going to be thrown into when the mongols come they're going to throw me into a pit ha ha you have to box that guy let's bet on him and all of a sudden i'm going to surprise everybody with my fucking my jacket You'd be like Brad Pitt in that movie, Snatch.

[1354] That's all I want to be.

[1355] I just want to be a gypsy fighter with that body.

[1356] You want to talk like that, too?

[1357] Like a gypsy.

[1358] Like a gypsy.

[1359] Yeah, man, getting good at things is fun.

[1360] I mean, but, you know, the ultimate question like we were talking about before is like, why is it fun?

[1361] Like, what is it about it?

[1362] I don't know, but I just know that for me to stay happy, and this is my own craziness, I need to constantly be engaged in things that challenge me. That's it.

[1363] I've tried a bunch of other ways to be happy.

[1364] I can't just chill out and relax all the time.

[1365] It's just not in me. I'm not me neither.

[1366] I'm the same way.

[1367] But I like to relax.

[1368] I do love relaxation.

[1369] But I have to feel like I've earned it.

[1370] I don't like regular laziness, like wake and baking and getting up.

[1371] That leaves me with this hollow anxiety.

[1372] I can't do that.

[1373] I've tried it.

[1374] I've tried to just be lazy.

[1375] It fucks with my head too much.

[1376] I agree.

[1377] I can only appreciate watching television or going to the movies if I've done my work.

[1378] If I haven't done my work, I don't, you know, and there's happiness in achievement, too.

[1379] There's happiness in getting shit done.

[1380] Yeah, but that's also, that also goes back to what we're talking about where, like, I'm trying to work on this new hour now.

[1381] Now I shot my one hour.

[1382] I'm editing it, and I'm throwing all that away, and you've got to start with new stuff.

[1383] Right.

[1384] And what drives me, actually, I swear to God, is not laughs.

[1385] I've had enough laugh.

[1386] You know, you can get inoculated to that.

[1387] That's a beautiful thing to get a lot of laughs.

[1388] But what was more important is I want to see what else I can come up with.

[1389] I want to see if I can tap into my real potential and come up with something even better.

[1390] That challenge is again going, what is my potential?

[1391] Like what do I really have in me?

[1392] And how much time if I spend like eight hours a day thinking about as opposed to two hours a day?

[1393] That's what nags at me. It's also you realize as, you know, an artist man. As an artist, you're constantly growing and you're constantly that's one of the number one problems with older comedians that have the act from 20 years ago we've seen those guys before time passes you by comedy is like a sandcastle you build it I mean people can look at the photos of it from the from the past but you got this shit's gone it's gone and once it's gone it's gone like if Lenny Bruce came back from the dead today and went up Saturday night at the comedy store he'd eat a plate of dicks yeah he'd die he would because the culture has changed If you go and listen to his, and I'm not a hater at all, I mean, I think Lenny Bruce is the most important figure in all of stand -up.

[1394] He's the original.

[1395] He's the godfather.

[1396] You go over my house.

[1397] I have Lenny Bruce posters.

[1398] I have a concert poster from the Fillmore.

[1399] I have one of his concert movies that's framed in a poster.

[1400] To me, he's like, that was the original.

[1401] He fucking took a lot of crazy chances and got arrested for it and really ultimately went crazy.

[1402] the last parts of his life were him going to court doing heroin died on his fucking bathroom floor doing heroin just he was going to court all the time and he would do shows where he was just completely gone he would just read legal transcripts to the audience there's there's video of it you can watch it I bought a bunch of these videos and watched him with VHS I was like wow this guy just went crazy at the end he was just going through so dig the judge says and he's like like reading these transcripts with no confidence There was nothing funny about it.

[1403] He just lost all of his point and was obsessed with this.

[1404] So he laid the foundation.

[1405] He laid the groundwork that for guys like you and me and everybody else.

[1406] Everybody else does stand up.

[1407] But wouldn't work today.

[1408] If you had the same act, if he was alive today, he'd figure it out.

[1409] He'd figure out.

[1410] He's a comic.

[1411] He'd figure it out, but he'd have to grow.

[1412] Like, everyone has to grow.

[1413] Your comedy grows and it changes as the culture changes.

[1414] If you go back to like Eddie Murphy Raw.

[1415] There's some fucking terrible homophobic shit Eddie Murphy Raw.

[1416] I was there I went to the actual concert.

[1417] But did you think it was terrible and homophobic at the time?

[1418] Not then.

[1419] No, it was okay.

[1420] It was acceptable.

[1421] It's weird.

[1422] And that was when I wasn't, I've never been, you know, I've always been sensitive to people's feelings.

[1423] I was never wanted to gang up on somebody who was gay, but I just didn't think of it as something that was bad.

[1424] Oh, speaking which, I forgot, to bring this up, I wanted to Jamie, go to my Twitter page and there's a tweet that I posted today about this woman from Kentucky that is the Kentucky clerk denies marriage license under God's authority.

[1425] There's a video of these guys.

[1426] Did you see the video?

[1427] This is a new one.

[1428] This is from today.

[1429] This is a new person.

[1430] Like, there was the other person.

[1431] This is a new person.

[1432] This woman is talking to these gay guys that want to get married and she won't let them.

[1433] And they're saying, under who's authority.

[1434] Like, the video would drive you crazy.

[1435] Well, she is a matter of faith, put those on.

[1436] Put those on.

[1437] Put those on.

[1438] Check this out.

[1439] Go full screen because this is awesome.

[1440] The Supreme Court denied your say.

[1441] We are not issuing marriage licenses today.

[1442] Based on what?

[1443] I would ask you all to.

[1444] Why are you not issuing marriage licenses today?

[1445] Because I'm not.

[1446] Why?

[1447] Are you not issued?

[1448] I don't know.

[1449] I don't know.

[1450] I don't tell you to do this.

[1451] Did God tell you to treat us?

[1452] I don't like that.

[1453] I've asked you all to leave.

[1454] You are interrupting.

[1455] You can tell the police that you wanted to leave.

[1456] You can call the place.

[1457] It's awesome.

[1458] Yeah.

[1459] This is a change.

[1460] It's what makes our country modern.

[1461] Well, this is a shift in culture.

[1462] I mean, this is like that woman that's saying that is crazy.

[1463] She's just, she's locked in an ideology.

[1464] And she's, like, her very job relies on the government.

[1465] I mean, that's what the government is telling her.

[1466] I mean, she's a government employee.

[1467] The government is telling her that you have, I mean, the Supreme Court has made a decision, you have to allow these people to get married.

[1468] And she said, nope, I believe in God first.

[1469] Well, I think, though, that the, we also have to recognize, I don't agree with her because I'm not a religious guy, but it is a matter of faith for her.

[1470] And if she's going to be a government employee, though, she's got to uphold the law of the land.

[1471] And we live in a secular society, which is a separation of church and state.

[1472] Do we really?

[1473] What about one nation under God?

[1474] That's the same state that wanted to teach.

[1475] It's the same state that wanted to teach, the school board wanted to teach creative design, Instead of evolution.

[1476] Isn't that the same state where they get the devil statue now?

[1477] They have to have a devil statue?

[1478] Which state has to have a devil statue?

[1479] Because the Satanist won the religious right to put a devil statue or the Jesus statue.

[1480] They have equal representation.

[1481] Pagens you mean?

[1482] No, no, no, Satanist.

[1483] Yeah, no Satanist.

[1484] That's hilarious.

[1485] Satanist statue.

[1486] Find out where the fuck that is.

[1487] This is where it gets crazy, though.

[1488] This is really where it gets crazy.

[1489] No, I don't think that's it.

[1490] There's one in the south, I'm pretty sure.

[1491] Yeah.

[1492] Is that, what's that one, July 6th, right there above Fox News, that's probably the most, whenever in doubt, you're looking for something ridiculous, Fox News.

[1493] I mean, it's a difficult thing, though, because somebody has a strong religious conviction, for example, in their pro -choice, because they think that, I mean, pro -life, because they think that abortion is murder.

[1494] Go back to that, so we could see that.

[1495] That was awesome.

[1496] Look at the statue.

[1497] It's a pretty cool statue, by the way.

[1498] Look at it.

[1499] It's amazing.

[1500] It's pretty dope.

[1501] So I guess it is Detroit?

[1502] I felt like it was happening somewhere in the DC.

[1503] God, look at that.

[1504] That's the angel Lucifer, right?

[1505] Look at that goathead.

[1506] Well, it's a satanic statue that I believe they're putting up as a goof.

[1507] The satanic temple, file photo provided by the satanic temple.

[1508] By the way, I've been accused of being a Satanist.

[1509] What?

[1510] I went to Duncan Trussell performed at one of the Lavais.

[1511] What's his name?

[1512] Something, the son or the grandson or something like that, was getting married.

[1513] Duncan Trussle performed his.

[1514] satanic puppet show at this guy and I went there and I wore the guy's t -shirt now there's like videos accusing me of being a Satanist I just like to clear the air I am neither a a religious person nor am I an anti -religious person I am not a Satanist but I have done mushrooms and I've done like some pretty powerful psychedelic drugs so the possibility of there being another much more powerful and wise force out there it does not escape me I think it is absolutely possible that there's something way more wise than us that we're not totally in touch with but I also don't think it has a dick so I don't think it's a he I don't think it's a his you know either do Christians either do Muslims either to choose but why do they say in his presence because his word if you were to for example give a name to you can say Allah and Yahweh but Yahweh among the Orthodox is to trample on their sensibilities because when you give a name to God, okay, when you give a name, when you say God is, this is what's heretical about the idea of Jesus Christ to Jews and to Muslims, because if you create parameters around God, if you suggest God as a man or a woman, if you suggest God has a name, then you are assuming to understand his greatness and his infinite presence.

[1515] Are you hypnotizing me while you're rubbing your forearm here?

[1516] Yes, I am.

[1517] Yes, I am.

[1518] You're saying this the same time.

[1519] I feel like, locked into your gage.

[1520] That's what happens when you get, when I start talking about religion.

[1521] God is a dick.

[1522] But here's my question.

[1523] See, see, I think some religion, I think Christianity is a powerful religion when you use the, right, so a lot of Christians just preach love and doing unto others as you'd have them do unto others.

[1524] It's got powerful conversionability of some people who saw nothing and find inspiration and love through God.

[1525] Listen, I'm not a religious guy, but I respect whatever that conversion can be because a lot of good things are done in the name of Jesus Christ, just as a lot of suppressive things can be done in the name of your God.

[1526] So I'm not so ready to condemn all religion.

[1527] Good things can be done.

[1528] Why are they done in the name of something that's not real?

[1529] And why does that make that something not real more valuable?

[1530] But that may be...

[1531] What's done is what's good.

[1532] But now hold on.

[1533] Because when you say it's not real, people have inspiration and deep feeling...

[1534] Not real.

[1535] From their religion, from their religion.

[1536] Dinging holes.

[1537] No. Hammering nails.

[1538] Sir?

[1539] Building buildings.

[1540] Sir, I'm going to have to ask what Donald Trump does.

[1541] That's real.

[1542] You son of a bitch, he's a builder.

[1543] I think religious communion, prayer, meditation, and things, is good for making you.

[1544] It does make people more humble.

[1545] Any sort of inspiration is good.

[1546] Anything that motivates you is good, especially if it motivates you in a positive way.

[1547] It's good.

[1548] But the real problem becomes when someone like this lady decides that those two guys can't get married because her god prevents it but the founding fathers had an answer that which was to separate church and state until the fucking commies came along right then we had to jump back in the religious game and then Ronald Reagan came along we jumped into religious game with politics well now you you know to get to get elected you've got to Jesus Christ the Christian nation you have to you literally do you have to be a Christian you know this is a Christian nation yeah Christian nation well it's it's not supposed to It's supposed to be a nation One nation under God was only created Back when the McCarthy era was going on There are parts of this country Where you, when you perform And you say the word Jesus The room gets very quiet You got the wrong places You're going to the wrong spots You do stand up where that doesn't They should know you by now They should be able to do anything you want Yeah, well I do Speaking in Kentucky There's a thing that I posted That was fucking fascinating about the dangers of misgendering someone that Gadsad posted it and I retweeted it.

[1549] It is adorable, and it's the fucking lunacy that's going on in colleges these days.

[1550] You're supposed to walk up to someone and say, hi, nice to meet you.

[1551] What pronoun should I use for your name?

[1552] Yes, it's called fucking lunacy.

[1553] It's lunacy.

[1554] That was the direction they said that you should give, because you don't want to miss gender.

[1555] Yeah, academics have created a tyranny.

[1556] There's a tyranny to how you have to walk around and speak.

[1557] They even want to control what you say in the bedroom.

[1558] It's called tyranny.

[1559] In the name of equality and in the name of tolerance and in the name of protecting the disenfranchised and the marginalized, we have created a fucking tyranny.

[1560] I can't stand the academic world for that reason.

[1561] They drive me nuts.

[1562] How does it happen, though?

[1563] they're so important when it comes to education.

[1564] The same way anything happens.

[1565] Distribution of information is so important, but socially, there's this oversensitive.

[1566] Why?

[1567] Because they're spineless to the small majority of lunatics that make a lot of noise.

[1568] And you know, I'm sorry to say this.

[1569] And I admire a great deal of professors.

[1570] I've interviewed a number of them.

[1571] They're awesome.

[1572] And thank God for professors and thank God for our academic hotbeds that, you know, come up with all these ideas.

[1573] But at the same time, a lot of academics are just terrified to make a stand.

[1574] They're fucking spineless because they live in a very safe and closed environment and they can't speak common sense a lot of times.

[1575] Isn't that, you people are assholes?

[1576] But doesn't that lead to what we're talking about earlier?

[1577] When we're talking about what people can tolerate, that people are tough because of the environment that they grow up in.

[1578] And it's one of the reasons why people don't respect spoiled people.

[1579] Right.

[1580] It's one of the reason why people don't respect people who grow up rich.

[1581] Well, academics and to a certain extent are spoiled in the fact that they don't have to compete in the real world.

[1582] Of course.

[1583] What they do is they exist in a very insulated world where they take classes from people who have also gone through the system, then they become teachers.

[1584] And when they become teachers, then they have this oppressive power over the people in their class.

[1585] And the people in their class have to listen to their ideology.

[1586] But they're also living under oppressive power.

[1587] They're living under a protocol, an academic protocol, if you ever try to get an academic to talk about anything that he's not 100 % certain about, boy, are they terrified.

[1588] And the academic world is about the nastiest place in the, talk about a battlefield of ideas.

[1589] When you come up with an idea that's controversial, like Stephen Pinker who said that human beings are not born a blank slate or that aggression is rewarded in indigenous cultures.

[1590] Holy shit was he lambasted.

[1591] Yeah, he got in a lot of trouble, even though there's a lot of science.

[1592] Of course.

[1593] Backside up.

[1594] Look at this office for diversity and inclusion.

[1595] And look at the gender binary.

[1596] He, she, her, him, her is his, and then gender neutral, they, them, theirs, and then pronunciation as it looks.

[1597] But look at this.

[1598] Look at Z, her, and hers, H -I -R -H -R -H -I -R -S.

[1599] Look at that.

[1600] Z -H -E -E -H -E -R -E -S.

[1601] So here's, they're creating a new language.

[1602] Z, here, hears.

[1603] Z here, here's.

[1604] These are fucking gender neutral pronouns that they've invented.

[1605] They've invented gender neutral pronouns.

[1606] This is insanity.

[1607] I don't think that kind of stuff sticks.

[1608] I think it's just too crazy.

[1609] But they're trying.

[1610] This is college.

[1611] This is the University of Tennessee.

[1612] They're not just trying.

[1613] They're enforcing.

[1614] They're born enforcers.

[1615] If you listen to these people, they are not tolerant people, nor are they nice people.

[1616] But have you seen the woman?

[1617] Have you seen the woman?

[1618] The photo of the woman who is running this?

[1619] It's wonderful.

[1620] It's wonderful.

[1621] She's perfect.

[1622] It's in the comments of you, if you look at the tweet that I found, it's in my tweet.

[1623] Somebody posted a photograph of this.

[1624] Perfect.

[1625] Yes, of course she is.

[1626] Of course she is.

[1627] Of course, she's angry.

[1628] I don't know if she's angry.

[1629] She doesn't have to be angry.

[1630] She's just, well, how about the woman who was talking about there was a girl in college who said that we, she was trying to push through legislation within the college about microaggression.

[1631] And we've got to monitor microaggression.

[1632] So even your facial, your facial, and this is Orwellian.

[1633] This is exactly what George Orwell wrote about in 1984, thought crime and face crime.

[1634] It's alive and well.

[1635] Human beings love having control over other human beings.

[1636] It is so, we all have it.

[1637] I have it.

[1638] We all have it.

[1639] If I was Emperor of the World, I know exactly what I do.

[1640] I want that power so I can do all kinds of stuff.

[1641] Because I think, and I'm speaking for myself, I think I'm so fair and I'm so nice that I can make everything better.

[1642] Never give anybody power.

[1643] There you go.

[1644] Oh, there you are.

[1645] There you go.

[1646] There you are.

[1647] Look at her.

[1648] Yeah.

[1649] I grew up with this.

[1650] I went to high school with this.

[1651] She's up in Massachusetts.

[1652] I know all about it.

[1653] It's madness.

[1654] Because first of all, I hate to say that.

[1655] You hate to judge someone based entirely on their appearance.

[1656] But if someone's morbidly obese, that person does not have good judgment in their own biological management.

[1657] The management of their own body has been grossly inept.

[1658] manage that's very interesting way to put it it's the only way to look at it this is too happy with herself this is not a poor person okay this is this is a person who works at university okay she can't that's also probably not happy with herself probably socially awkward which you know no one can fault anyone for those things the problem is when someone is in that predicament and they're choosing to dictate the rules of engagement that other people have because what you're doing by creating all these gender neutral pronouns and these new words ways of it you're you're trying to nerf the word That's what you're trying to do.

[1659] You're trying to take away the awkwardness of a boy who looks like a girl being called a girl.

[1660] Well, he's like, no, I'm a boy.

[1661] Oh, sorry.

[1662] Well, fuck, man. You look really close to being a girl.

[1663] I'm sorry.

[1664] I'm allowed to say that.

[1665] Yeah, but you're not.

[1666] Okay?

[1667] Or a girl who decides she's a boy and she wants to be referred to as a boy.

[1668] She wants to be referred to as a he.

[1669] Well, okay, well, once you tell me that, I'm okay with it.

[1670] I don't mind.

[1671] You know, if you say your name is Greg and your real name that you were born with was Donna.

[1672] It doesn't bother me. I'll call you Greg.

[1673] It doesn't bother me, but to say that I'm the asshole because something that's completely outside the norm is weird and sticks out, no, no, no, that's wrong.

[1674] Yes.

[1675] You know, like it's, it's, like, I don't like this vitiligo thing that I have on my hands.

[1676] It's weird, you know, and if I get really tan, then it really shows up, but I'm white, so it's not that bad.

[1677] But when people go, like, what's that on your knuckles?

[1678] I don't, I don't like that I have to tell them, but of course I go, oh, it's Vitilago.

[1679] It's a disease.

[1680] I wish I didn't have it, but I do have it.

[1681] So I don't get upset if somebody asked me a question.

[1682] It's a normal question to ask, my knuckles look different than the rest of my hand.

[1683] It makes sense that they would want to know what's going on.

[1684] This is not like a microaggression.

[1685] This is human curiosity that's something that's abnormal.

[1686] Yeah.

[1687] It's not a bad thing that it's abnormal.

[1688] It's not a bad thing that there's a gender issue that you wish you were a woman when you were born a man or you wish you were a man or you're born a woman.

[1689] It's not a bad thing.

[1690] It's just, it is.

[1691] There is a difference, though.

[1692] And I think that what we're experiencing now with the transgender movement and even to an extent the gay movement is the pendulum swinging all the way in one direction.

[1693] And it's a reaction to the fact that, and this is just a fact, when you were a man or a woman and you felt overwhelmingly like you were a different sex and you took measures to correct your current sex or you just dressed up in a way that made you feel more yourself.

[1694] So if you're a man and you're dressed in drag or whatever as a woman.

[1695] Or for that matter, if you were gay and you started having feelings when you were the problem was that in most of our history, you got the fucking shit kicked out of you.

[1696] You got killed.

[1697] You got targeted.

[1698] Got ostracized.

[1699] Yeah.

[1700] And that anger and that injustice doesn't go away.

[1701] And so you have a lot of people that have that memory is very fresh.

[1702] that wound is very wrong.

[1703] So let's have some fake pronouns.

[1704] The way to not solve that is then try to control the majority of the population's behavior.

[1705] What about Z -H -H -E -R -E?

[1706] I like that.

[1707] They have those.

[1708] Z -H -H -E -R -E.

[1709] That's one of them.

[1710] I know.

[1711] I was in, listen, I went to high school in Massachusetts.

[1712] I remember when I had to say, I couldn't say freshman.

[1713] I had to say fresh person.

[1714] I dated a girl who graduated from Wellesley College with.

[1715] degree in women's studies.

[1716] Wellesley.

[1717] Women's studies.

[1718] It's all about women.

[1719] Yeah, I know.

[1720] It's wonderful.

[1721] Good times.

[1722] She didn't shave her legs.

[1723] There was a white girl who I suffered.

[1724] I dated a white girl.

[1725] You didn't even care.

[1726] She didn't shave her legs?

[1727] Yeah, it's very European.

[1728] No, it's very hippie, bro.

[1729] There's nothing to do with European.

[1730] That's what fine, but her roommate was Greek.

[1731] I got in trouble for this.

[1732] Guess what her feet looked like?

[1733] Bill Bow Bagan's.

[1734] Greek women are hot, though.

[1735] Hairy feet, bro.

[1736] She had hairy toes.

[1737] hairy feet This was the girl you were with Nope the other girl Her roommate When you're younger man You'll fuck a bear It doesn't matter I mean I don't give you shit No she was beautiful But she was blonde Like she was a pretty girl And the roommate There was a girl I dated Who was a liberal white girl Oh Jesus that's not real There was this white girl And she And she majored in African studies In college And I went And all I did was this I go Why Because I knew the answer Was she was liberal white girl and just wanted other black people to be like, you're my favorite white, you're my favorite white, and you understand us, and you're down with our cause.

[1738] I know it wasn't because she was interested in African studies.

[1739] And then I said, because I said, why, why?

[1740] Why?

[1741] What about, why did you choose to study African studies, not that there's anything wrong with it, and not say what you come from, like European history?

[1742] Why would you care what she studies, Bill?

[1743] I just wanted to know the answer.

[1744] Okay, and what was her answer?

[1745] I like black dicks.

[1746] Her answer was, I wish.

[1747] She wasn't even into black guys.

[1748] She goes, I find that question offensive.

[1749] And I said, that's what I thought you'd say.

[1750] Oh, that's hilarious.

[1751] That's what I thought you'd say.

[1752] Why I find that question offensive?

[1753] Because I'm not prejudiced at all.

[1754] But that's a good question.

[1755] It's a good question if you say, like, I'm a professional poker player.

[1756] Oh, why?

[1757] It's a fair question.

[1758] Or how to, well, maybe you wouldn't say why.

[1759] Yeah, you wouldn't say why.

[1760] But you would say, what do you like the most of it?

[1761] Why?

[1762] That's a good question.

[1763] That's a real question.

[1764] If you said I want to be a professional poker pair, I would definitely say why.

[1765] People ask me if they want to be actors and I ask them why all the time.

[1766] Why?

[1767] What is it about acting that you want?

[1768] Pay attention to that now.

[1769] Hold on.

[1770] Right.

[1771] Do you want what you see at the awards or do you really want to be an actor?

[1772] Yeah.

[1773] He's not even an actor.

[1774] He's not even an actor.

[1775] Kanye West and Donald Trump, in my opinion, in many ways are my least favorite Americans.

[1776] How dare you?

[1777] No, no, I'm not talking about the politics or anything else.

[1778] I just.

[1779] think and here's I have a thought about that I actually think that they would have benefited a great deal and they're accomplished people don't say slavery no they would have Donald Trump would have been a great slave um sir I think they would have benefited a great deal follow me on this line of logic okay I'm trying I don't think they've ever been punched in the face well and hard by somebody who knows how to punch and here's what I mean the first time I got punched in the face I actually got kicked in the head by a black belt and I got knocked out it hurts so badly I fucking renounced God You know, I was just like Did you believe in God before you got hit?

[1780] No, but I mean, in other words, I was like, I thought I was the center of the universe and I got kicked in the head and I fell forward.

[1781] I woke up and I was like, I quit everything.

[1782] I want my mom and a warm glass of milk and I want a nap.

[1783] Right.

[1784] And it was a seminal moment when I was 18 because I realized I was definitely not the center of the universe and I was definitely not the tree.

[1785] I was just a tiny leaf on a very big tree that, you know, could be plucked very easily.

[1786] It was kind of a profound moment because that kind of pain and that kind of vulnerability where I realized oh man, it's easy to kill me. I heard a loud noise.

[1787] You don't think Donald Trump has gone through like a ton of adversity?

[1788] I don't know, but he doesn't act like it.

[1789] He acts like a successful guy that's rich as fucking insulated.

[1790] That's what he acts like.

[1791] And a guy who knows a lot of the people at the top and thinks they're dopes.

[1792] He acts like a guy who donated a shitload of money to Hillary Clinton's campaign so that she came to his fucking wedding.

[1793] And she did and she did okay so when you recognize that then you kind of understand why he acts way he acts yeah if you walked into a room full of retards if you walked into a room full of retards and you got a rifle in your hand and he said sit the fuck down i'm running this town now okay because you retards have been out shooting my cows and fucking my dog and lighting my house on fire everybody sit the fuck down well in a lot of ways to a guy like Donald Trump when he's talking about all these people in Congress that didn't know the difference in the Shia and the Sunni.

[1794] When he's talking all these people that did make these decisions based on shitty evidence, when he's talking about all these fucking people that are secretly playing poker on their fucking cell phones and they're making gigantic decisions or jerking off under the table and they get caught.

[1795] He knows that.

[1796] He's been around too long.

[1797] I'm not saying I support him.

[1798] I hear me saying.

[1799] I don't like his arrogance.

[1800] I don't like what he said about Mexicans, especially.

[1801] No. That's so, it's short -sided and it's neglecting.

[1802] It's also bullshit, building a wall around the center.

[1803] See, neglecting what What's the difference between Mexicans and Americans in the first place?

[1804] It's just luck.

[1805] Yes.

[1806] It's luck and opportunity.

[1807] They're all just human beings that got unlucky.

[1808] If you were born in fucking Juarez, you would be just like them.

[1809] So fuck off.

[1810] You know, so when he says that kind of shit.

[1811] Especially him.

[1812] Exactly.

[1813] You got lucky, bitch.

[1814] Yeah.

[1815] You got lucky.

[1816] You got lucky you weren't born in Tijuana.

[1817] If you were, you'd be just like that.

[1818] He was born to a father who had a lot of money.

[1819] That's right.

[1820] Son of a bitch.

[1821] But that's why he's like he is.

[1822] I do think this.

[1823] What do you think of this?

[1824] You know, when we, a big of chief concern always in elections is the economy.

[1825] And I'm always fascinating that we never hire economic studs, guys who actually made a lot of money in the economy and competed.

[1826] Instead, we hire government bureaucrats.

[1827] And I don't know what the answer is, but it seems very counterintuitive for the, for voters to vote for, say, a guy like Barack Obama, who actually didn't leave any, he never really worked in the, he was a community organized.

[1828] He never had a real job.

[1829] And then he was, he had kind of okay grades, I think in Occidental, and then I think Columbia.

[1830] And then he taught at Harvard and left no academic papers or legacy.

[1831] And then was kind of, kind of greased into being a senator and didn't leave any legislative legacy.

[1832] And you look at the guy and he's a really good speaker and he seems sensible and fair.

[1833] But it's interesting that we voted for him, and I voted for him, primarily on the idea that he was, black and different and sent a good message to the world or a thousand reasons.

[1834] But I know I wanted to show the world that we weren't a prejudiced nation after the war and that we were a progressive group of people and that Obama did seem really sensible and he seemed fair and he seemed thoughtful.

[1835] So I'm kind of I'm criticizing myself for this, but I think it makes sense to vote for somebody sometimes like, you know, Republicans make it fucking so hard to vote for him.

[1836] But I just feel like if you really care about the economy, vote for a guy who had to really compete and win in the economy.

[1837] They might have a better understanding and perspective.

[1838] Right, but would they be the best qualified dealing with social issues?

[1839] I don't know.

[1840] Would they be the best qualified to deal with international dilemmas?

[1841] Well, international probably, but social issues, I think the best way to deal with social issues is to do exactly nothing, maybe.

[1842] Do you think that it's possible that the whole idea of being a president is just antiquated?

[1843] It's all just some alpha male primate monkey shit.

[1844] we have to have a top dog.

[1845] No, because the way the presidency, the way our government has organized is fantastic in a lot of ways.

[1846] In terms of the president still has veto power but needs a two -thirds of the majority.

[1847] That didn't stop us from going into the Iraq War, which is what you originally talked about.

[1848] Yes, that's true.

[1849] And also, if you look at the president, like if he relies on Congress and Congress relies, I mean, all those laws that are set up in place to make sure that he doesn't have like ultimate power.

[1850] checks and balances.

[1851] Why do, why is he there in the first place?

[1852] Why do we, why do we have that?

[1853] Why do we need one person?

[1854] Why is there supposed to be one captain?

[1855] Because, because ultimately you need one, ultimately the responsibility to president is when you have six different sources, the State Department and the intelligence event, all these people coming to you with the options.

[1856] You do need a decision maker.

[1857] Really one guy?

[1858] That seems so ridiculous.

[1859] It's never one guy.

[1860] It's just never one guy, though.

[1861] If he really is that good, why would he have Joe Biden as his second guy?

[1862] to stop and think about that.

[1863] Well, Joe Biden's been in government for a very long time.

[1864] When you watch the Joe Biden's steroid hearings, when he's talking about steroids, when the congressional baseball hearings.

[1865] He's a politician.

[1866] He's so silly.

[1867] Yes.

[1868] He's such a silly man. He's considered a blowhard by a lot of people on the other side of the aisle.

[1869] I mean, Joe Biden, if you talk to anybody who's been in government a long time, he's kind of a blowhard.

[1870] I mean, he's a blustery guy.

[1871] Silly guy.

[1872] Yeah.

[1873] He really shouldn't be the top dog for the fucking country, but he's one heartbeat away from being the top dog in the country.

[1874] Yeah, vice president has always been what your president allows it to be.

[1875] So, vice president is typically a ceremonial title where you go to different ceremonies, but it's never been, it's really interesting.

[1876] It's an interesting role because it can be a very, very sort of amorphous, pointless job.

[1877] It had been up until Dick Cheney.

[1878] It's one of the reasons why Dick Cheney snuck in.

[1879] The puppet master, he figured out, like, I'll just take this gig that Dan Quail had, you know?

[1880] I mean, I'll take this gig that really dumb motherfuckers had, except Al Gore.

[1881] Al Gore was pretty well -respected, smart guy.

[1882] He was respected in some circles, but Al Gore never had much of a backbone.

[1883] Al Gore was always criticized for never really having a strong position on much, so.

[1884] But if you look at a guy like a Barack Obama, what he's like is like a really strong headline.

[1885] that takes a shitty opening act with him on the road, you know, because if you listen to Joe Biden talk, and, you know, he's okay, it's all right.

[1886] It's just, it's not offensive to your ears.

[1887] Yeah.

[1888] He's not a terrible speaker, but then Obama's so good.

[1889] He's so good.

[1890] He's so powerful.

[1891] He makes everything seem so comfortable.

[1892] He's such a good talker.

[1893] Yeah, but he also at the end of the day, I think, you know, he says he's a big free market guy, but I think Obama really does believe in top -down authority.

[1894] I do think he really believes that.

[1895] ultimately, a central group of smart people should be making most of the decisions.

[1896] I feel that from him.

[1897] Anybody who watches fucking storage wars should think that.

[1898] Watch naked and afraid.

[1899] You don't want to stop these people from making the critical decisions about this world's fucking future?

[1900] Yeah.

[1901] You can't just have everybody.

[1902] No. I mean, that's a terrible thing to say.

[1903] No, but you can certainly have top -down, you need a federal.

[1904] government my god for certain things right but ultimately isn't the electoral college ultimately isn't that a really fucking scary thing i don't know that you can decide this is a representative of the state so the state votes for representative well i'll tell you what it i'll tell you what the good side of it is what it means that states that have very small populations aren't ignored right and that's that's why they go to iowa right now that's something that you need um that's why the politicians He doesn't go to Iowa, right?

[1905] There's an intelligent argument to get rid of the electoral college.

[1906] They fucking dust these farmers off.

[1907] They sit them down and they say a bunch of bullshit to them.

[1908] That's because the campaign starts there.

[1909] Also because they can't read, so they just listen.

[1910] No, no, no. That's a mistake.

[1911] A lot of farmers are super smart.

[1912] They don't read it all.

[1913] They're too busy.

[1914] No, man, you're reading propaganda.

[1915] They're planting grain.

[1916] They're picking corn all day.

[1917] They don't have any time for reading.

[1918] Those farmers are actually, most of those farmers are smart.

[1919] Well, you have to be, look, it's a very tight business.

[1920] Like, your margins are very small.

[1921] And also, there's weirdness, like, subsidies.

[1922] Like, wait a minute.

[1923] Huge subsidies.

[1924] If it wasn't for subsidies, there's a lot of farms that would be done.

[1925] Of course.

[1926] A long time ago.

[1927] And guess who've benefited some subsidies?

[1928] Huge factory farms.

[1929] Yeah.

[1930] Huge factory farms, corporations, and the corn industry.

[1931] There's a fucking fantastic documentary called King Corn.

[1932] Oh, it's incredible.

[1933] It's fucking nuts, man. These guys, they set out, I mean, I've mentioned it several times in the podcast, so I apologize if you heard this before.

[1934] But if you haven't seen it, just check it out.

[1935] This guy, they did do like an analysis of their own bodies and find out what percentage they are of corn, some ridiculous percentage of all the carbon in their body has come from corn.

[1936] And then they go through the aisles of the supermarkets and they start looking at the corn syrup and corn starch and corn this and corn that.

[1937] You've realized how much fucking corn is in everything.

[1938] Huge lobbying efforts and carbs.

[1939] And not good for you.

[1940] No. No. God damn it makes a steak good, though.

[1941] Yeah.

[1942] Do you prefer a grass -fed steak?

[1943] I like grass -fed steak only.

[1944] Only because, only because I just believe they're ruminids.

[1945] I've been told that they're supposed to eat grass, so I like things that are more natural.

[1946] They're darker.

[1947] I don't know if it tastes better.

[1948] But for me, it does because my mind says, this is grass fed. I'm going to be healthier.

[1949] They're different.

[1950] I wouldn't say, I prefer grass.

[1951] But there's something about a really nice, fatty, corn -fed ribeye that I understand.

[1952] Yeah.

[1953] It's delicious.

[1954] 100%.

[1955] Some of it's really good.

[1956] But it's not good for the animal.

[1957] That's for fuck sure.

[1958] And it's darker meat.

[1959] and I gotta feel like darker meat is better for you.

[1960] I know that's probably not logical.

[1961] Well, the way the meat, the way a cow, if a cow eats the way it's biologically supposed to, I'd imagine that it's probably better for you.

[1962] Well, I feel like that about eggs.

[1963] You know, sometimes my chickens, I leave them in the chicken house.

[1964] It's a big fucking chicken house.

[1965] I just had a chicken die the other day.

[1966] For no reason.

[1967] They just die.

[1968] They just die.

[1969] Chickens don't live long.

[1970] I don't know how long they live.

[1971] Their little chicken hearts give out.

[1972] There's nothing happened to it.

[1973] It was in the coop.

[1974] And the coop, it's more, I call it a coop, but it's really a chicken house.

[1975] It's big.

[1976] Did you check it's back for peck marks?

[1977] They did peck it.

[1978] They pecked it as soon as it went down.

[1979] They're fucking cannibals, those monsters.

[1980] Did they eat it?

[1981] They would eat it.

[1982] Wow.

[1983] They pecked at it.

[1984] But it wasn't dead for very long before we found it.

[1985] Point being, when I don't let them out, their eggs don't taste as good.

[1986] Their eggs look different.

[1987] Their eggs become more yellow.

[1988] And I buy the best chicken food.

[1989] that you can buy, the healthiest chicken food that you could buy, but really they want a free range.

[1990] And when you let them go, and then they run around the yard, and they peck grass and they eat bugs, their eggs are much more delicious.

[1991] And they're a dark, dark yolk.

[1992] There's a, like, the other day I took a photo because I was, I had eggs, and two of them were from an egg from when they were grazing, and two were from a little bit later when we had them in the coop for a few days and when they're in that coop they're their their fucking eggs come out yellow like supermarket eggs not quite that yellow but pretty close whereas otherwise there are dark dark orange and they literally taste different i got to think they're more nutritious i mean it only makes sense certainly taste better your eggs i've had eggs from your your coop they're amazing right the joe rogan eggs yeah delicious you get them the day of like i get them in the morning and then i cook them I'll have, like, an egg sandwich for breakfast on some sprouted bread, some Ezekiel bread.

[1993] Ooh, Ezekiel's good stuff.

[1994] With jalapeno, I like to take a jalapeno, a slicey.

[1995] And then I take some El Yucateca or maybe some saracias occasionally.

[1996] And I put it over the fucking sliced jalapinos.

[1997] A double down.

[1998] A little mayonnaise.

[1999] I'm not scared of mayonnaise, bro.

[2000] No, don't be afraid of mayonnaise.

[2001] I'm not scared.

[2002] I put a little swath.

[2003] I fucking work out.

[2004] If you wanted to torture my wife, you'd give her mayonnaise and onions mixed in.

[2005] She'd throw up immediately.

[2006] She doesn't like either one of those things?

[2007] I like myself some mayonnaise.

[2008] She can't look at mayonnaise.

[2009] Really?

[2010] Do you have a food that you can't?

[2011] You just can't eat.

[2012] No, I'm a man. Jesus.

[2013] What fuck is wrong with you?

[2014] Okay.

[2015] I don't have any weird phobias.

[2016] I've eaten brains before.

[2017] Not me. I've eaten lamb's brains.

[2018] I want to eat tongue or brains.

[2019] Really?

[2020] I'm not crazy about kidney and stuff like that.

[2021] It's just I don't like the texture of tongue.

[2022] The Jews know how to make the tongue.

[2023] Coture tongue?

[2024] A cow tongue.

[2025] You never had it?

[2026] I did have it as a kid And I said, this looks like a tongue And my grandfather said it's not a tongue And I go, it looks like tongue I was in Greece And I ate it and I was like fucking tongue And it was tongue God damn I never ate it again When we were in Montana And we ate that deer skull You didn't eat any of that deer tongue When they chopped up the deer tongue?

[2027] No, but I ate eyeball I ate, remember when I ate Yeah Steve gave me the fat behind the eyeball That was raw and I ate that Yeah What was that called again?

[2028] Talo?

[2029] Yeah It tastes so choosy Chewy.

[2030] Chewy.

[2031] Yeah, I didn't eat it.

[2032] I saw you eating it.

[2033] It was disgusting.

[2034] That was when I did the ravine comer and then I ate.

[2035] The ravine comer makes me sad to this day.

[2036] Yeah.

[2037] Because one of the funniest things that happened on the trip with Brian and I when we went to Montana with Steve Ronella and crew is that Brian created a character called the Raveen comer.

[2038] Where I was going to come in a ravine.

[2039] It has only been a few times in my life where I almost blacked out from laughing.

[2040] That was one of them.

[2041] But you're never going to see it.

[2042] You're never going to see it because that's fucking good old fashioned.

[2043] outdoorsman, sportsman's channel.

[2044] You know, we, Jesus, and we're out there hunting.

[2045] Part of it's like I like to do with the guys like Steve Rinella and Dan Doty who don't know what to do when I go, hey, is anybody using this ravine?

[2046] If not, I'm going to come in it.

[2047] You might have a come in the ravine.

[2048] Oh, you started getting angry and yelling at.

[2049] And then I jacked off.

[2050] I mocked jacked off.

[2051] I didn't really jack off.

[2052] He kept talking about being the ravine comer, and you had to be there.

[2053] But the point being is like, a lot of our ridiculous silliness, We'll never make it on his show.

[2054] No. So we're doing this amazing performance for like, you're doing it more than I am.

[2055] You're, I'm not that kind of, you're a different kind of on than I am, you know, when we go to these things.

[2056] It's one of the reasons why I love having you around is because you just love making everybody laugh.

[2057] You love making me laugh, too.

[2058] It's my favorite thing in the world.

[2059] Yeah.

[2060] You're just ridiculous with it.

[2061] This weekend, I made somebody laugh for one hour, the groom of the wedding.

[2062] And this is so sick, but I made him laugh.

[2063] I've never made anybody laugh that hard for, I did an hour of material.

[2064] And it was all, his son is a really good -looking 17 -year -old, a wrestler really muscular and really smooth.

[2065] Oh, this is us.

[2066] We're turkey hunting.

[2067] Is this a...

[2068] That's a short clip from...

[2069] Oh, play it.

[2070] Let's play it.

[2071] Hold on my story, please.

[2072] Play it.

[2073] Let's hear it.

[2074] Wanky -ass Sportsman's Channel Network.

[2075] Well, let's let it load up.

[2076] Just leave it right there.

[2077] We had a good fucking time, though, man. It was a good time.

[2078] Turkey hunting, though, is for the birds.

[2079] Yeah.

[2080] Here's the problem with turkey hunting.

[2081] And if you love turkey hunting, I appreciate it.

[2082] Absolutely.

[2083] I get it.

[2084] I shot a turkey.

[2085] We ate some of it.

[2086] It was delicious.

[2087] It tastes like turkey.

[2088] I don't get this.

[2089] I like the calling them in.

[2090] But trying to locate them and not having any idea where they all are.

[2091] I hoping that they come.

[2092] I was sleep and snoring.

[2093] And Steve Rennel was like, you're sleeping.

[2094] I was saying, no, it wasn't.

[2095] Like lying down snoring.

[2096] But when you wake me up, I will fucking tell you I wasn't sleeping.

[2097] automatically yeah what is it about that it's like that vulnerable feeling like I'm awake it's embarrassing I was a sure I was sure that I was awake man I slept nine hours last night I mean I slept nine hours and I kept it a secret for my wife my wife was where were you I go I was in the garage I lied to her I go I was working out in the I was sleeping for two hours and I lied I lied right to her like I was like I was in my office working out we need a hunting show where we do it online with nobody sponsors it nobody like we're just we do it the same way we've done with podcasts yeah we need that i need to just finance it and i'll just hire some dude to just film us we'll take someone like ryan callahan or something like that take us hunting somewhere and we'll just film it what's the first how much could it possibly cost i don't know i mean how much could it really possibly cost if we just had like a sponsor like rifles that we use or you know products that we use like hoight bows or something like that Just a sponsor that could help us defer some of the costs of production.

[2098] It would be so much fun.

[2099] I agree.

[2100] Because these trips, like the trip that we had when we went out to Alaska and we went on to Prince Edward Island, fucking fantastic time.

[2101] Horrible rains.

[2102] What we were talking about earlier with like fun that's like fun while you're doing it.

[2103] It was terrible.

[2104] Like we were soaking wet the entire trip.

[2105] It never stopped raining.

[2106] If it would stop, it would stop for like 20 minutes that we'd shoot like some video.

[2107] footage of us being out there for 20 minutes and looking for deer that we never found and then it would go right back to raining it was horrible but we had so many fucking laughs just the time that we were in the trailer or the tent rather and we had one one indication of that is the podcast that we did from there Steve's podcast which was one of the best ones that we did you know one of Steve's that we did where it's not censored like unlike the show it's completely free you're so we're there just I gotta listen to laughing we were giving him so much shit about his shit collection.

[2108] Remember, Steve Ronella has, he's so fucking into wildlife.

[2109] This dude had a stool collection of all the various animals that he had hunted.

[2110] He had like bear shit, a duck shit.

[2111] You could show Steve a picture of shit in the wild and he'll be like, ah, that's raccoon.

[2112] I did.

[2113] I told him there was a fucking animal that was trying to get into my chicken coop and it's shit in my yard.

[2114] I sent him a picture of it and he said it was a skunk.

[2115] Wow.

[2116] Yeah.

[2117] And there was a fucking skunk out there.

[2118] These cunty skunks.

[2119] skunks will kill the fuck out of your chickens really skunks are predators no they are yep yeah skunks are predators that's amazing they'll eat birds oh yeah especially chickens they were trying to get to my chickens how about raccoons oh yeah really yeah raccoons are definitely yeah if you're a forest grouse you better run yeah oh yeah do ground nesting birds any ground nesting birds any gronets they said about turkeys everybody's trying to kill turkeys all the time turkeys die all the time yeah a three -year -old turkey's old well when we were turkey hunting we shot a turkey oops spoiler alert uh but we only shot one it was a young turkey.

[2120] It's called a Jake.

[2121] I shot it.

[2122] And on Brian's day when I was snoring, Brian couldn't fucking find a turkey.

[2123] We couldn't find a turkey.

[2124] We did rock paper scissors.

[2125] I won, so I got to shoot first.

[2126] So a lot of times we should have done, we both should have shot at the same time because three fucking turkeys came in.

[2127] We should have said, I agree.

[2128] Let's do this on the counter three.

[2129] We should have both had turkeys.

[2130] Just blast.

[2131] But we thought since that was the first day, we're like, oh, we're going to see a bunch of turkeys.

[2132] This is awesome.

[2133] No, it wasn't.

[2134] No, it was a bunch of times sitting around in Napa Valley, okay?

[2135] We're not pretending.

[2136] We're in Alaska.

[2137] We went to eat at fantastic restaurants every night.

[2138] I want to be at Bouchon.

[2139] Those dummies, they fucking ate cheeseburgers and shit.

[2140] I'm like, come on, I'll take you to the restaurant.

[2141] I'm going to pay, let's go.

[2142] We're going to go back to the house and drink beer.

[2143] Best food in the world.

[2144] Like, literally the best restaurants in the world.

[2145] And Rinella never joined us once.

[2146] That's a fuck.

[2147] He likes to pretend he's in the woods.

[2148] He doesn't like the fact that he gets to stay in a house.

[2149] When he hunts, he wants to suffer.

[2150] He wants to live in the dirt.

[2151] So the fact that we were going to go and drink fine wine and eat duck, we ate grilled duck and filet mignon.

[2152] There was a potato puree.

[2153] Took me a half hour to find the wine I wanted.

[2154] I love that.

[2155] It's a wonderful place.

[2156] But we treated it differently than them.

[2157] They did not want to admit that they were staying in a house in Napa Valley.

[2158] While they were doing that show, they're pretending that they're out there in the woods, turkey hunting.

[2159] You're in a guy's yard.

[2160] You're in a guy's yard You're shooting a fucking bird That I could buy down the store And here's the problem He fucked up when he cooked His turkey breast Because you know what that turkey breast Just like the stuff I buy in the store Like fucking turkey breast Okay There's no goddamn difference I was gonna be the best turkey in the world No Nope pretty fucking boring You guys stay here I'll go to the deli And have the same experience And you know I guess the legs taste a little better I need to cook You know that's what Come over this week man And I'll cook some turkey and some moose All right.

[2161] Because the turkey that we shot, I have that still.

[2162] I have most of it except.

[2163] I'm around tomorrow.

[2164] We ate one breast.

[2165] One breast.

[2166] Let's do it tomorrow.

[2167] We ate one fucking breast while we were there.

[2168] And we were like, okay.

[2169] It tastes like he made schnitzel.

[2170] You know, like breaded it.

[2171] After I do my podcast called The Fighter and the Kick.

[2172] I heard that show was picked up by Fox.

[2173] Some crazy deal.

[2174] That's what they say.

[2175] She gets some crazy deal with Fox Sports.

[2176] How about this?

[2177] We sold out.

[2178] Whoa, I'm waiting for someone to come along with enough money for me to sell out.

[2179] Dude, we saw the bread.

[2180] Oh, you mean this show.

[2181] We sold the live podcast out six weeks in advance at the Bray Improv.

[2182] And by the way, everybody, Tempe Improv, November 12th, we are going to do a live podcast.

[2183] I think I'm on your live podcast.

[2184] In Tempe?

[2185] What day is?

[2186] The one you did in October 1st.

[2187] Yeah, I'm on that fucker?

[2188] Yeah, you're more than welcome to.

[2189] Are you kidding?

[2190] I think I'm going to be on it.

[2191] That'd be great.

[2192] We're going to have a good time.

[2193] We didn't do it high as fuck though.

[2194] We're going to get to.

[2195] I'm tired of you guys talking sober.

[2196] Hey, man, come on.

[2197] Don't push your drugs on me. It bothers me. I think I'm going to get Brennan to do some stand -up.

[2198] He definitely should do stand -up.

[2199] Yeah.

[2200] At the live podcast, I want him to do three, four minutes.

[2201] He should do it.

[2202] He could do it on fighting in the UFC.

[2203] He could definitely do it on dating Rhonda, but he shouldn't.

[2204] Tell him not to.

[2205] He won't.

[2206] No. No, he doesn't.

[2207] He's tired of taking shit for just saying anything.

[2208] Yeah, let it go, man. He said that yesterday in the podcast.

[2209] He goes, just so you know, I am never talking about that shit again.

[2210] He's just so sick of it.

[2211] He can't.

[2212] She's the queen of the world.

[2213] You've got to let it go.

[2214] She's bigger than Oprah.

[2215] But he has let it go.

[2216] He doesn't.

[2217] He's never said a bad thing about her in his life.

[2218] Well, he does love her.

[2219] He does care about her.

[2220] It didn't work out.

[2221] I've never heard that guy say one thing besides that she's great.

[2222] And I'm not even probably...

[2223] Well, there was the one time on the podcast where he said that he's too much of a man. He just meant, he meant with Rhonda, it's either you are going to be taking a back seat to she's driving the train or you need the exact, the extreme opposite.

[2224] That's what I think he was trying to say.

[2225] He didn't mean too much.

[2226] He's just not, he's a strong personality.

[2227] She's a strong personality.

[2228] That tends to be hard to mesh.

[2229] But, um, fucking, uh, anyway, come see us November 12th.

[2230] Change the subject.

[2231] I like how you wanted to keep going.

[2232] November 12th, gentlemen, Tempey improv.

[2233] So listen, man. What you and I really need to do is we need to do a show where it's just us doing whatever the fuck we want to do.

[2234] Yeah.

[2235] And turn it into funny.

[2236] It's like I'll be your audience.

[2237] I'll be your audience.

[2238] I come with you.

[2239] We'll do things together.

[2240] Most of it is like me setting you up.

[2241] Like all, most of the.

[2242] meat eater show.

[2243] The fun stuff is me setting you up and you knock it out of the park.

[2244] Great.

[2245] Over and over and over again.

[2246] Great.

[2247] But we have a weird dynamic.

[2248] It's really funny.

[2249] And Rinella, we talked about it before.

[2250] Like we were really bored at one time.

[2251] He goes, man, he goes, I wish Callan was here right now.

[2252] I go, yeah, if he was here, it would be like really fun.

[2253] He goes, no offense.

[2254] I go, no, I'm not funny like that.

[2255] I'm a different, I mean, occasionally I'm funny like that, but not, like you can't count on it.

[2256] No, I'm a jackass.

[2257] I only have fun when I'm being a jackass like that.

[2258] I just, I'm looking for any opening.

[2259] You're talking, I'm not even listening.

[2260] I'm like, where's it, where's an opening?

[2261] I can give a fuck what you're saying.

[2262] Isn't that a problem when you're doing a podcast?

[2263] Of course.

[2264] Of course.

[2265] It's a problem with my life.

[2266] I'm never serious.

[2267] But it's not necessarily a problem when we do stuff like that.

[2268] Fucking works for stand -up.

[2269] Yeah, it definitely works for stand -up.

[2270] But it also works for doing that hunting thing.

[2271] We've got to talk to Ronell about that.

[2272] Let's do it.

[2273] Say, listen, because he, I briefly talked to him, and his company.

[2274] We talked about me doing a show, and I was really considering it, but first of all, I don't, there's a lot of shit that I take from hunting for no reason.

[2275] It's so silly.

[2276] I take it from people that have dogs and cats on their fucking Instagram page.

[2277] I got into it with this lady.

[2278] She's a very nice lady.

[2279] She's a tattoo artist.

[2280] She gave me a hard time about calling hunting ethically retarded or something like that.

[2281] And then I went to her page, she's got animals.

[2282] I'm like, come on.

[2283] You feed your animals, murdered animals.

[2284] It's the only way you you're going to keep them things alive.

[2285] If you have dogs and a cat, what do you feed them?

[2286] She admitted.

[2287] She goes, yes, it's not, it's like a necessary evil.

[2288] And, you know, it was a very friendly exchange because she had beautiful artwork.

[2289] She's a really talented tattoo artist.

[2290] But I go, come on, this is silly.

[2291] Like, you're not getting this from the dog food tree.

[2292] Getting it from horse meat and things like that.

[2293] Well, from that and from cows and byproducts and guts and feet and all kinds of shit that they grind up and lamb, which is basically baby sheep, the chickens, they fucking grind chickens up and compress them into cat food.

[2294] I mean, that's what it is.

[2295] And those animals are not happy, and they're a real living thing.

[2296] If I shoot a moose or whatever the fuck I shoot, I'm eating that whole goddamn thing, and it's one animal, and that's one of the things that I like about hunting a large animal like that, as opposed to, like, a turkey.

[2297] If you shoot a turkey, it's only going to live, it's only going to feed, like, a few people.

[2298] Like, a turkey will feed five people.

[2299] Yeah.

[2300] Like, that turkey was shot five people, we can have a meal?

[2301] Yeah, and it's over.

[2302] But it's also this, I mean, you know, what I always say is even trophy hunting, which I don't do, even trophy hunting, is the revenue from those kinds of hunts.

[2303] I honestly hate that argument, and I really want to talk to hunters about not using it, because it's true.

[2304] It is true, but it's so fucked up that it's true, that it's more...

[2305] It's just economy.

[2306] It's economics.

[2307] Yeah, it is economics, but it's...

[2308] Here's the deal, right?

[2309] If you love something, whether it's elephants or rhinos, you love some exotic, crazy animal that we don't have in North America, and you want to pay a lot of money to shoot it, and you're not even going to eat it.

[2310] I guess they do eat elephants, which I didn't know until I started getting in a hunt.

[2311] But I guess it tastes good, man. It's fucked, because they're intelligent, and they're not traditionally thought of by...

[2312] Intrific family structures and all that.

[2313] great memories.

[2314] They remember family members from like 20 years ago.

[2315] They reunite them.

[2316] They hug.

[2317] Like it's, it's trippy, man. I've seen a video of a mother and a child reunited after 20 years and they're hugging.

[2318] Like, we don't think anything of a child leaving a family because that's what we do.

[2319] You know, if you live with your house, your family and you're 40, you're fucking loser.

[2320] Yeah.

[2321] But if you're an elephant and you're, you know, you have children, those children stay near you.

[2322] It's like the structure, that's their natural structure.

[2323] We don't think anything of like separating them, taking them off here, taking them off there.

[2324] It's one of the most damning things about something like SeaWorld.

[2325] Like, they have the balls to have these commercials where they say, we haven't taken an animal from the wild in 35 years.

[2326] That's like a human having slaves saying we haven't kidnapped this person from their family in another country in 35 years.

[2327] So this is okay that we keep these slaves.

[2328] Because that's what an orca is.

[2329] When an orca or a dolphin, they're fucking slaves.

[2330] I didn't see blackfish because I find it too upset.

[2331] It'll drive you crazy.

[2332] It'll drive you crazy.

[2333] It doesn't matter what?

[2334] What they say, there's no getting away from the fact those animals are captive.

[2335] They go into psychosis.

[2336] Yes.

[2337] There's all sorts of problems with them.

[2338] But there's just no getting away from the fact they're captive.

[2339] You're not talking about a dog, man. My dog got upset today because I was on the other side of the fence and I was having a phone call.

[2340] And he's pawing at the door he wants to get to me. Come on, man. Hang out with me. I'm like, dude, I'm on the phone.

[2341] I'll pet you in a minute.

[2342] Right now I'm on the phone.

[2343] And he has, you see my dog's yard.

[2344] It's a giant.

[2345] It's a naker.

[2346] He just wants to be part of you.

[2347] Exactly.

[2348] Exactly.

[2349] And they don't want to be captive.

[2350] They want to be free to do whatever they want.

[2351] And this is a dog who lives in a family.

[2352] I mean, he's one of the family.

[2353] Domesticated, he's a sweetie.

[2354] He's one of the family.

[2355] He lives in the house.

[2356] He sleeps in the house.

[2357] He's just outside doing a shame.

[2358] And he doesn't like it.

[2359] Let me out, bitch.

[2360] Come on.

[2361] What is this?

[2362] Imagine the madness if you were a person and you were forced to live in an empty tank or an empty swimming pool.

[2363] like imagine if you in the same structure where an orca lives that's your world how much room do they have not much at all you know what's really terrifying there's a photo of the sea world parking lot it shows the parking lot and it shows where the orca enclosure is in relationship to the size of the parking lot it's fucking terrifying it's terrifying yeah you just feel claustrophobic just tiny little thing just imagine if you had to live in a drained pool it's a form of it's a form of torture it is a form of torture it's a solitary confinement well you know the really crazy animal rights activists believe that you shouldn't own any pets that I shouldn't even have my dog I shouldn't have my cats dogs especially are domesticated there's a difference in a wild animal it's tame and a domesticated animal well my cat's pretty fucking domesticated yeah and like being around you have you seen fluffette five of the fuck this fucking ragdoll in the morning okay we have to be really quiet in the morning because the cat will hear your voice and start meow into the dorm just to come in and get pet and you see her as soon as you see her She immediately starts purring.

[2364] Because she wants to do pet her up.

[2365] She goes limp.

[2366] I mean, it's the most domesticated animal ever.

[2367] Anybody that wants that poor thing to fend for itself is a fucking crazy person.

[2368] This is a baby.

[2369] The dogs are pack animals, too.

[2370] Dogs want to be.

[2371] I imagine cats have a pride.

[2372] But dogs definitely want to be part of, you know.

[2373] My cats, I have the male and the female.

[2374] I had a cat just die.

[2375] She was 13 years old.

[2376] It's pretty sad.

[2377] Or not 13, excuse me, she was 19, 19 years old when she died.

[2378] It's all the time.

[2379] But the other one is 7, and the baby, the new one, is 10 months old, I guess.

[2380] Maybe 11 months old now.

[2381] Yeah, I think she was born in October.

[2382] So she's a fucking baby still, and she's like this little fluffy fur ball.

[2383] It's like the difference between her and an animal in the wild is so far removed.

[2384] so many generations that it's really odd that we do that to those things yeah you know they make awesome pets but it's really odd that we choose to make like an english bulldog yeah that's that's that's something we're playing with genetics and this fucking flat face you ever see them try to breathe like they overheat I'm like what did we do yeah or someone did something you what did someone do that made that thing well they just played with jeans that that whole movement happened.

[2385] When was that in the 1920s or where we started changing dogs?

[2386] Well, I think they've done it like to a certain extent through the history of dog breeding.

[2387] I think it's existed for a long time but not to the level that they've done now where they make like Pekingese and these special breeds and I saw a guy the other day that had two wolves he was walking, are you reading tweets you fuck?

[2388] Shut that goddamn phone off.

[2389] I was actually going to go to don't you dare to see a to look that up I thought you were reading tweets It looked like tweets to me This guy was walking on the street There's the Seaworld parking lot It's in the green See that?

[2390] Oh my God The green is the tank And the rest is the parking lot Oh my god That's the orca enclosure Oh no Yeah it's horrible It's horrific Wow So this guy was walking with wolves He had pet wolves And you could tell right away It was really weird They were really cool though God they're beautiful They love They're fucking horrifying They're horrifying, but they're beautiful.

[2391] Wolves to me, like this amazing creature that is, you know, I respect them deeply.

[2392] I love what they represent.

[2393] I love looking at them, but they feel like a trap, man. I think the love that some people have for animals and this really distorted perception of what a predator like a wolf truly is has allowed people to import these things and put them into Idaho and all these different areas.

[2394] And I'm reading all these stories about what's going on now, how they're decimating the elk populations and people were really terrified of them.

[2395] And when I was in British Columbia and I was up there with my friend Mike, who has a business up there, a guide business, and he has a farm.

[2396] His fucking neighbors, they had a cow that was killed in the middle of the night by wolves.

[2397] Like they came in and killed a cow, like 20 of them.

[2398] The problem with wolves is that they're, you talk to any farmer, any rancher.

[2399] Why do they hate wolves?

[2400] And this is the world over.

[2401] Wolves have been, have, like in Sweden, they're reintroducing the wolves.

[2402] It's really controversial because the people that make their living off their livestock, fucking wolves are such efficient killers.

[2403] And keeping them out is basically, it's really, really hard.

[2404] They're so smart, too.

[2405] Yes.

[2406] They're so smart.

[2407] They act together.

[2408] There's a reason that farmers traditionally went after wolves right away, like whether it was in Italy and Sweden anywhere.

[2409] There's no real society that didn't go after wolves because.

[2410] they were so devastating to your crops.

[2411] But we've gone so far away from recognizing that and remembering that, that people have brought these things back in some sort of a weird attempt to balance the ecosystem.

[2412] And when they open hunting seasons, there's all these protests.

[2413] And the protests are almost invariably from people that live in the cities.

[2414] That's the issue with the difference of Vancouver and British Columbia being a province.

[2415] Like the people in Vancouver, they're all liberal.

[2416] It's like it's a beautiful place to live.

[2417] there's no wolves here man don't go killing wolves but the people who live where michael you can kill as many wolves a day as you want yeah because you can't you can never get rid of all exactly they're really hard to find they're they're elusive i ran into this guy at the airport and um he was a really smart guy really smart guy really articulate guy up in canada and um ask me a question you know what are you here for blah blah blah i forget what he told me his business was i probably wouldn't say it anyway to somehow another people would figure out who it is but he's He was talking to me about his business.

[2418] We were talking a little bit, and he asked me when I was up here for.

[2419] And I told him I was up there for a hunting trip.

[2420] And then he started talking to me about how much he hunts wolves.

[2421] Like right away, he goes into this, yeah, we hunt wolves all the time.

[2422] And he goes, you got to.

[2423] I own a piece of property up there.

[2424] And we've seen them chase down calves and kill them.

[2425] He goes, we've seen it.

[2426] He goes, we've seen the wolves.

[2427] He goes, there's just so many of them that what we do is they take garbage bales, like a big garbage pail.

[2428] And they fill it with meat.

[2429] and then they pour water into the garbage pail.

[2430] So it's filled to the top with water and meat.

[2431] Then they freeze it.

[2432] And once they freeze it, then they take it and they put it out like a popsicle.

[2433] Wow.

[2434] And then the wolves can't take it all at once.

[2435] So they'll definitely keep coming to it.

[2436] So they get a little bit of the meat.

[2437] They'll come back for more.

[2438] And they've got to chew through the ice and there's meat inside the ice.

[2439] And then they'll shoot them.

[2440] Oh.

[2441] And he says, we shoot them all year long.

[2442] We have to shoot them as many as we can.

[2443] I've heard the Inuit The Inuit used to take Because wolves were such a nightmare for them They'd steal their food Their seal at night stuff And they would put a razor blade Like a knife with a piece of meat on it And the wolf would eat the meat And then lick the blade Cut themselves up and die Yeah They would put blood And keep licking their own blood On a knife Razor sharp knife Yeah It's terrifying Harsh A harsh way to live That's those worlds, man. That's those worlds.

[2444] I really think that a certain amount of struggle, like you said, a certain amount of losing makes you more humble and respectful.

[2445] And like what you were talking about were a guy like Donald Trump, this sort of conversation is all coming around in this one thing.

[2446] That's what we do here.

[2447] Yeah.

[2448] But it really is in this one.

[2449] It's like, and what we're talking about about academia, about the cowardice of this new way of pushing ideology.

[2450] Objective reality.

[2451] Feeling something hitting a wall is very important and they're thought bullies there's thought bullies about it and what where's that all coming from?

[2452] Well, I mean it really is coming from this there's a lack of real world experience or a lack of adversity the adversity has only been intellectual diversity so this adversity rather so there's these conversations they're having the battles that are going on they're about ridiculous shit they're not about survival they're about calling someone z or he and there's anger and there's rhetoric and there's protests and in and then the There's this crazy need to control what the other people think and what is acceptable and not acceptable on my fucking campus.

[2453] Have you ever seen the Toronto protests?

[2454] Like somebody's sensibility is sacred.

[2455] You ever seen the Toronto protests with these feminists?

[2456] There was some guy who was promoting something about something that had to do with men's rights.

[2457] They completely distorted what he had to say, completely distorted what his message was and promoted him as this like evil person who supported rape and hated women.

[2458] And so they shut down his performance that by turning on a fucking fire extingu, a fire alarm, they set off a fire alarm and all cheered.

[2459] They were protesting in the hallways while this guy's on stage speaking.

[2460] Sure.

[2461] That's not surprising.

[2462] It's a hostile act.

[2463] It's a controlling act.

[2464] It's exactly what the Red Guard did in Mao's China.

[2465] And there are a thousand examples of people who get swept away with an ideology.

[2466] These are very religious people.

[2467] And by that, I mean they're fanatically devoted to what they think is a certain truth.

[2468] or a set of truisms, and they'll do whatever they can.

[2469] Well, that's why it's important what you're saying, because they'll do whatever they can, but what it's not based on is reality.

[2470] So, like, if there really was a person that was at this campus that was promoting raping women and doing horrible things to them, and this is what you should do, and he's trying to rally them up, absolutely everyone agrees they should be treated the way these women were treating that guy.

[2471] The question is, is what he's promoting, promoting that or are you turning it into that in order to make it justifiable for you to go fucking crazy?

[2472] Because that's what a lot of it is.

[2473] I think so.

[2474] What a lot of it is, people decide they have a target and then justify their actions based on that.

[2475] Also, they decide that there's a target.

[2476] They shoot their guns at the wrong target because it's an easy target.

[2477] But that's an important point, though.

[2478] In their defense, I mean, if someone really is promoting rape, fuck that guy, right?

[2479] Right.

[2480] So that would be a realistic reason to use that target for what they're saying to it.

[2481] So they make him that.

[2482] Yeah.

[2483] They distort what he is.

[2484] They turn him into that, so then it's justifiable.

[2485] Yes.

[2486] And the women were screaming at these men that were trying to go in and listen?

[2487] All they wanted to do was hear what this guy had to say, screaming at them.

[2488] You fucking piece of shit.

[2489] You support rape.

[2490] Like, what are you talking about?

[2491] But this anger and violence and vitriol.

[2492] It gives them a cause.

[2493] Exactly.

[2494] People want a cause.

[2495] There's no adversity.

[2496] They want to feel like they're revolutionary.

[2497] There is no, there's not enough adversity.

[2498] It's not healthy.

[2499] Yeah.

[2500] It's not healthy.

[2501] It's also not, it's not honest.

[2502] I don't think they're being honest with themselves or with what the real problem is.

[2503] And that's another issue is that if you, if you're too ideological and religious, you're going to be placing your energy and your anger in the wrong direction.

[2504] And there are real challenges and problems.

[2505] And it takes sober thought, sober thought, sober analysis and an open mind to find.

[2506] finding out and developing a very informed point of view so that then you can actually tackle what's really going on.

[2507] And good luck finding someone else who's also taking the same amount of consideration into a subject and hasn't approached it with some intense bias.

[2508] Exactly.

[2509] So having these debates with these people, it's like there's bridges you can't cross.

[2510] There's things that you can't say.

[2511] Well, it's very important though.

[2512] Now, when you have a debate, and I'll give you an example.

[2513] It's very important, in my opinion.

[2514] The problem with debate in this country is this.

[2515] Let's take gun control as an example.

[2516] The first thing you hear is I'm in favor of guns, I'm in favor of gun control.

[2517] But what you actually hear when they start the debate is this.

[2518] You're a gun nut and I don't like you.

[2519] You're a hippie liberal and you don't know what this country was founded on.

[2520] And that's where we start.

[2521] And the minute that happens, there is no way anybody's going to have a discussion because it starts with, I don't like you.

[2522] Oh, yeah, I don't like you.

[2523] Instead of saying, hey, guys, we're both good people who have a different point of view and we're trying to solve a problem.

[2524] Nobody in this room thinks that somebody should be allowed to go in and massacre a school or a movie theater.

[2525] We know we want to solve that problem.

[2526] Now, this side believes everybody should have guns.

[2527] This side believes they shouldn't.

[2528] Where is the middle ground?

[2529] Let's have a real discussion.

[2530] It never starts that way, unfortunately.

[2531] A lot of times it just becomes this crazy sort of, this is my camp, this is my idea, and I'm more interested in being right based on my ideology.

[2532] that's immovable.

[2533] Yeah.

[2534] And it's very difficult, it's very difficult to kind of step back and be sober in these thoughts in these, in these situations.

[2535] For example, like, like gun control is interesting, because when this guy came up and shot these two reporters.

[2536] And this psychiatrist just happened recently, right?

[2537] And his psychiatrist, I think his name is Lieberman, Jeff Lieberman, and he thinks he's out of Columbia University.

[2538] He said something really interesting.

[2539] Probably a black guy, right?

[2540] He was a black guy.

[2541] Jeff Lieberman?

[2542] He was Jew, right?

[2543] He's Jewish, right?

[2544] Yes, he's Jewish.

[2545] I knew it.

[2546] You guessed.

[2547] Good guess.

[2548] Good guess.

[2549] But he had something really interesting to say, and it was a really interesting debate.

[2550] I'd never heard before.

[2551] He said, look, mental illness, there is an idea that maybe if somebody is exhibiting psychotic behavior and talking about wanting to hurt other people in himself, a lot of people who have mental illness are not willing to take their drugs because they don't think there's anything wrong with them.

[2552] So how do you deal with that?

[2553] Well, he said, what about, what about in some instances outpatient care that is mandated?

[2554] And well, wait a minute, that steps on my civil rights.

[2555] You can't tell me to take drugs.

[2556] And he said, but wait, if you have tuberculosis, you are mandated by the Center for Disease Control to take your drugs because you're contagious.

[2557] And you're not allowed to not take antibiotics when you have tuberculosis.

[2558] And usually it's a nine -month regimen.

[2559] It can turn you colorblind like I did my buddy Jimmy Burke and all that.

[2560] but what about what about what about those questions what about stuff that kind of throws things in the air hey you just you just filled me with a cloud of whatever trying to give you contact those are those are important questions to raise man they are I didn't know Jimmy Burke went colorblind yeah from his antibiotic regimen fuck yeah he's colorblind now and what is that from what disease was it he had tuberculosis and so it just the antibiotics just killed it forever yeah whoa yeah but he had to take them so what What do you think?

[2561] If somebody's saying, I want to kill people, and he's just saying it.

[2562] That's a mental illness, and I think it is a good idea to treat it as it is an illness.

[2563] And the problem with the mental illness stigma on Karacenna Maria, who's been on this podcast a bunch of times, she's a neuroscientist.

[2564] She's very smart, and she's had mental illness issues herself with depression, which is also a mental illness.

[2565] It's not well.

[2566] We treat them differently than we treat any other illness.

[2567] Like, there's no shame in having diabetes.

[2568] You know, we find out that you have a disease, and we don't go, p. That fucking diabetes, bro.

[2569] Like, it's a disease.

[2570] So we treat it with medicine.

[2571] You know, same thing with virtually every disease except mind diseases.

[2572] And when someone has a mind disease, we automatically assume that they're being weak.

[2573] We automatically put them into this box.

[2574] Oh, you're depressed.

[2575] Oh, poor fucking baby.

[2576] Think you're going to be fine?

[2577] Dude, what are you going to be?

[2578] You're happy, you know, fucking born in the 1600s.

[2579] Yeah.

[2580] You know, there's all the nonsense that comes with people admitting that there's a chemical imbalance in their brain, which we can't really measure.

[2581] That's the problem.

[2582] They can't fucking, they can't just pull the juice out of your brain and measure you for depression, you know?

[2583] And they can't really measure, like, there's no, like, scale that shows what drug is going to work for you.

[2584] Right.

[2585] Which is one of the weirdest things about taking antidepressants.

[2586] But whatever the case, it's some form of medication for a disease.

[2587] And when someone doesn't want to take that medication, this is one of the episodes, the episode I was talking about called Elements on, radio lab that was talking about lithium, this woman who can't take this medication anymore.

[2588] When she takes it, she's her.

[2589] It is a mental illness.

[2590] She has a mental illness, being bipolar.

[2591] It's an absolute disease.

[2592] And when she takes this stuff, she's totally normal.

[2593] So this idea that we have about medication when it comes to mental illness, I think it's the one illness that we have this criticism of or this prejudice of that we can justify.

[2594] Because it's hard to measure.

[2595] Yes.

[2596] Yeah, and who decides, and there are, there is criteria and there is, there are experts that can say, I think, in some instances, hey, this dude is exhibiting classic psychotic behavior and he's going to hurt somebody.

[2597] And I think it would behoove the authorities to mandate some kind of a drug regimen or something.

[2598] People don't know when to say that, though.

[2599] You have a guy who hasn't done anything yet, he just seems a little off.

[2600] You don't know what it is.

[2601] Right.

[2602] It's dicey.

[2603] It's very, very tricky stuff because now you're talking about a government agency coming in there and making you take drugs.

[2604] Yeah.

[2605] But in some instances, it might save a lot of lives if you've got a crazy person.

[2606] And the question becomes, if that is a viable alternative to having people get shot up in some instances, what do you do about it?

[2607] It is a really good question and a really hard one to answer.

[2608] Because here's another factor.

[2609] When you do an experiment, the fact that you're doing an experiment, the fact that you're doing an experiment, has a, it has an effect on the results of the experiment itself.

[2610] A classic one that we've talked about on this podcast for, I think it was Carl Hart that brought this up.

[2611] It's a brilliant point that I never even considered.

[2612] They'd always talk about these things that they do with rats.

[2613] You know, they give rats a heroin and the rats do the heroin every day and then, you know, they keep doing their tasks.

[2614] But if you give them cocaine, they just do cocaine until they die.

[2615] Well, he goes, yeah, but they're in a cage during an experiment.

[2616] This isn't a normal rat.

[2617] It's changed the rat cage.

[2618] You change the entire experiment.

[2619] You can't just, it's not like you're giving them cocaine in the woods.

[2620] Well, if you did that, you would have, like, much more reasonable results.

[2621] Well, do you know what the results were?

[2622] It's fascinating.

[2623] Yeah.

[2624] So they laced the water with cocaine and heroin.

[2625] The rats kept doing it until they died.

[2626] And then this experiment came along and said, why don't we change the rat cage?

[2627] I'll create rat Disneyland.

[2628] And the rat, he created a utopia for rats.

[2629] They had plenty of sex, friends to play with lots of things to keep themselves occupied.

[2630] Do you know how many rats kept going back to the cocaine and heroin bottle?

[2631] None.

[2632] After a while, from what I was told, the experiment yielded no addiction, and they all started drinking water and went back and they kind of said, I'm done with that drug thing.

[2633] So it changes things up.

[2634] Well, also, okay, let's think about that for a second, because if we're living the way we're living today, it's because people before us have figured out how to build houses and electricity and cars, but how many generations?

[2635] How many generations in relationship to the DNA that's in our body that supposedly takes like 10 ,000 plus years to change?

[2636] Or, I mean, how similar are we to people that live 10 ,000 years ago?

[2637] Probably almost exactly or really, really, really, really fucking close, right?

[2638] Maybe the reason why people are into drugs and constantly trying to alter the state of their consciousness today is directly connected to these rats being willing to do this experiment.

[2639] or be willing to go back to the cocaine until they fucking died in this experiment, as opposed to the way they were in the wild.

[2640] Like maybe if we were living in the wild, maybe if we lived the way people lived thousands of years ago, it's hunter -gatherers.

[2641] Maybe if we did that, we would have no desire to do coke.

[2642] I would agree with you if I didn't know that pygmies in certain parts of the Congo smoke copious amounts of weed.

[2643] Yes, they do.

[2644] And if people in the Amazon who are hunter -gatherers take all kinds of hallucinogens.

[2645] Stop and think about the drugs that you just described.

[2646] Copious amount of weed, which makes them more sense, more paranoid, maybe keeps them alive more, more community -oriented, more loving, and maybe even more creative.

[2647] So you're talking about marijuana.

[2648] If you're talking about the people that live in the indigenous tribes and the Amazon, you're talking about serious psychedelic drugs that are ego -dissolving, that remove the world around you and bond you inexorably as this tribe.

[2649] Right.

[2650] So you're not talking about heroin.

[2651] You're not talking about Coke.

[2652] Especially not talking about Coke.

[2653] Right.

[2654] Like how many fucking people, they do chew coke -a -leaves in a lot of those.

[2655] those environments in Peru.

[2656] Yeah, but it's coca leaves apparently...

[2657] There's got as well in Ethiopia in places.

[2658] God is a...

[2659] Yeah, but isn't that more like a narcotic?

[2660] It's a narcotic.

[2661] Yeah, but the...

[2662] Keeps you mellow, I think.

[2663] Coco leaves apparently is really nice.

[2664] It's really nice.

[2665] Does God keep you mellow or does it actually hype you up?

[2666] I think it's a stimulant.

[2667] I think that stuff is a shitload of it in the Middle East.

[2668] I remember it as a kid.

[2669] Yeah.

[2670] I wonder if we went back.

[2671] to living this sort of subsistence life, if any of that stuff would have any pull on us at all?

[2672] I don't know, but I do think that the new science of, like, Portugal decriminalized all drugs, all drugs.

[2673] And what they did is a really interesting thing.

[2674] They think, by some measures, in 2000, 1 % of the population was hooked on heroin, which is incredible, a huge addiction issue.

[2675] And you have to be careful with these statistics, but this is what I heard on TED .com.

[2676] And when the government said, I'll tell you what, Instead of spending all his money on enforcement and rehab and stuff, we'll take addicts.

[2677] We'll decriminalize it.

[2678] And what addicts need is connection.

[2679] So what we'll do is we'll say, we'll get them in rehab and we'll take care of that.

[2680] And then we'll get them a job and we'll say to their employer, look, train this guy.

[2681] We'll pay half their wages.

[2682] It'll cost you half as much to hire this addict who is going to take your program.

[2683] We have our own programs.

[2684] They're managing their addiction.

[2685] And they've had huge success because what happens to the addict is that they develop connections and they develop purpose and they develop an entire infrastructure of support around them and that apparently from what I understand a lot of like addiction specialists talk about that being very important man connection is is a great anecdote or antidote to your your addiction issues I'm not an addiction specialist yeah I'm not either I think one of the big problems with addiction specialists in this country is they're only allowed to use methods outside of drugs.

[2686] There's, uh, there's some people that get some spectacular results in other countries, especially in Mexico with Ibogaine, people that are hooked on pills.

[2687] What's Ibogaine?

[2688] Abigane is, uh, it's from the Iboga plant.

[2689] And it's, um, it's really intensely introspective drug that is a, it's not a fun time at all.

[2690] There's very, very little recreational Ibogaine.

[2691] It's just like really intense, um, view of your life.

[2692] very, very deep and complex view of your life.

[2693] And it also shuts off some physical reactions to addiction.

[2694] Somehow or another rewires the mind some strange way that's very, very effective.

[2695] I've had friends that have had pill problems that have gone to these retreats in Mexico and had ibogame treatment and just completely knocked it out.

[2696] How much of it is placebo?

[2697] Who knows?

[2698] No, it's not placebo at all, I don't think.

[2699] Because what we're talking about is an insanely intense, introspective experience that's not dissimilar from the DMT trip that you went on in the fact that it dissolves reality.

[2700] It dissolves reality in some sort of a strange way.

[2701] And then I haven't experienced the Ibegine those trips, but I have quite a few friends have done it.

[2702] And every one of them said it sucked.

[2703] Like they did not like it.

[2704] Like it's really harsh.

[2705] But the results are spectacular.

[2706] Like the results, like, when you get through that, you're like, okay, I see it all.

[2707] It's all mapped out now.

[2708] Like, what am I doing my life?

[2709] Like, what are all these pitfalls that I've set up for myself?

[2710] What are all these traps that I've, like, left in my personality?

[2711] What are all these excuse mechanisms that I have just ready to fucking pop off and send me to the bar?

[2712] What are those things?

[2713] Well, you see them like they're like, like, like, targets.

[2714] You see them all around you, like really obvious landmines.

[2715] It's weird how people have, like, a lot of those.

[2716] We all have some of those.

[2717] But for me, my way of getting out of that is I just ask myself what I really want.

[2718] And I think that's helpful.

[2719] Like when I just go, what do I really want to do and we'll get good at?

[2720] What really interests me?

[2721] I think you've never been addicted physically to anything, nor have I. So I think we're talking out of our ass when it comes to that.

[2722] Yeah, I never have.

[2723] Thank God.

[2724] I feel lucky that I don't have that.

[2725] I don't drink much.

[2726] I never had any of that stuff.

[2727] Yeah, that's a, the pill one and the heroin one, man, that is a goddamn crazy one.

[2728] The Coke one, I've seen them all, and they're real hard to figure from the outside.

[2729] I haven't experienced what the ache in their bones.

[2730] Well, what about how much people drink in this country and have always?

[2731] This country has always been a nation of drinkers, man. And that's why we get gas.

[2732] We don't give a fuck.

[2733] We get drunk.

[2734] We make shit happen.

[2735] Oh, gentlemen.

[2736] But it's responsible for a lot of great art, too.

[2737] You know, that's one thing that people don't want to admit.

[2738] Of course.

[2739] How much fucking great music was created by drunk people?

[2740] I don't know.

[2741] Come on, man. I think a lot of great music was created by people who sat in rooms and just played music.

[2742] Well, that's true, too.

[2743] You know what I mean?

[2744] They say that what destroyed the Hade Ashbury movement, that wonderful psychedelic movement, was when musicians went from weed and psychedelics to heroin and cocaine.

[2745] And the heroin and cocaine was what actually destroyed a lot of great musicians.

[2746] Yeah, but that's coke.

[2747] We're talking about booze.

[2748] Yeah.

[2749] I think there's been a lot of artists that have used booze.

[2750] including writers, historically, there's been a lot of writers that were drunk.

[2751] Stephen King said in his book, which I read, he said, there are a lot of, yes, there are a lot of creative people that have substance abuse problems, he said, but they happen to be very creative people with substance abuse problems.

[2752] He said they were creative, and then they had a problem, but it's not what made them creative.

[2753] That's possible that he's right, but it's also possible that he's saying that because he's not an addict anymore, and he doesn't want to go back to it, and so he's made this sort of connection in his mind that it wasn't the alcohol that allowed him to be so, free and creative.

[2754] It was his own free creativity that he had in his mind and he had a problem.

[2755] It's true.

[2756] That's true.

[2757] Or here's another possibility.

[2758] There's correlation and, you know, causation.

[2759] They're not clearly defined in this.

[2760] No, no, here's another possibility, too.

[2761] People that are creative and do and have great imaginations and allow themselves to have a great imagination may also be in some, to some degree, may be a little self -destructive or at least searching for different states and so maybe maybe you know that the kind of person that's imagined enough to write a book like kujo also likes putting himself in something other than his sober state totally possible as well yeah totally possible as well but i think there's also some thoughts that come to you when you're drunk like i've done some drunk writing especially on airplanes god i'm an idiot when i'm drunk well i listen to like music and uh have a couple budwisers and uh i'll write and i'll write some stuff that i might not write dude i you when we were doing the ice house one time i was one of the first times it was in a small room and i smoked a bunch of weed and i don't do it and i got high doing your podcast and i drank some scotch because you forced me peer pressure i don't think i wrote and i got up on stage and crushed the room with a whole thing i kind of reminds about how i saved a whale now i never would have thought about saving a fucking whale uh without that state so So maybe it did open up some channels.

[2762] Stephen King, go back to the booze.

[2763] Here's what Oliver, the late Oliver Sacks, said something incredible.

[2764] Do you know the story about Philip Plagenet?

[2765] I think it's Jason Plagen.

[2766] I think his name, furniture salesman, 1994, comes out of a bar, gets savagely beaten, and starts having sort of deep mathematical, geometrical thoughts.

[2767] And next thing you know, he starts drawing these geometric relationships and shapes a physicist walks by one day and goes, do you know what you're doing?

[2768] And he said, no, I just, I'm trying to figure out the relationship.

[2769] And he goes, you're drawing high math.

[2770] Long story short, he'd never been interested in math at all.

[2771] And in 2015, he is considered a math genius.

[2772] He got beaten.

[2773] Oliver Sacks did a great thing on a guy named Tony Sioria.

[2774] Get struck by lightning.

[2775] He's an orthopedic surgeon.

[2776] The lightning goes through his cheek, comes out his foot.

[2777] I just want to say right now, if you're a shitty musician, don't let someone kick you in the head.

[2778] I'm like, dude, I've got it.

[2779] Don't do it.

[2780] I'm going to be a math genius.

[2781] I'm going to kick the shit out of me and let me see what happens.

[2782] The most creative people are drunk.

[2783] Tony Sierra.

[2784] What is this?

[2785] Tony Sierra.

[2786] What is this?

[2787] This is an article about the Churchill gene.

[2788] The Churchill gene.

[2789] Well, Churchill always had some, Winston Churchill always had some alcohol in the system.

[2790] But listen to this.

[2791] Tony Seoria, who Oliver Sachs studied, basically gets struck by lightning.

[2792] All he can hear is piano music and becomes a composer and a high -level composer and piano player because all he wanted to do after that was play the piano and it was never interested in music so the idea is maybe sometimes a certain things that happen to your brain can open pathways and channels and circuitry that wasn't that was blocked or wasn't activated before in this case it was a beating and lightning but there are examples of something traumatic happening to someone's brain where it opens up an entire new passion and interest in that person And that's documented by the late Oliver Sacks and a lot of other people.

[2793] That's kind of fascinating.

[2794] Well, I think that the mind is some sort of a device.

[2795] And this device relies like the rest of the body on all the different elements that keep a human being alive.

[2796] Human neurotransmitters are flowing around.

[2797] There's neurons firing.

[2798] There's all these cells that are alive.

[2799] I mean, the mind is just like this fascinating place.

[2800] Now, when you introduce things that are psychoactive to the mind, whether it's caffeine, whether it's neutropics, whether it's alcohol.

[2801] Yeah, sure, whether it's marijuana, there's an effect.

[2802] And when that effect happens, there's a cascade of effects.

[2803] The effect of marijuana, there's a lot of different effects.

[2804] But one of them is your creativity absolutely gets a kickstart.

[2805] Something happens.

[2806] You get a weird way of looking at things.

[2807] You get a strange, altered perspective on things.

[2808] Alcohol does the same.

[2809] It gives you a strange, altered perspective on things.

[2810] You know, it doesn't introduce your way.

[2811] Makes you a little louder, makes you a little bolder, releases inhibitions.

[2812] But occasionally, someone will write something while on alcohol that is just brilliant.

[2813] And it comes out of this don't give a fuck thing that alcohol allows you to look at something from a different angle.

[2814] It's not.

[2815] Or maybe drops your inhibitions and you're able to be more yourself in some instances.

[2816] Yeah.

[2817] Or, yeah, I mean, that's a possibility.

[2818] It's also a possibility that's a combination of those things, that they're not.

[2819] not individual, that this, you know, there's not an either or, that they're all a part of most things in life, that it's, you know, it's, maybe it quiets down one part of the brain.

[2820] They're not mutually exclusive.

[2821] Yeah.

[2822] Yeah, I mean, listen, man, we're learning more and more about science, brain science all the time.

[2823] It just shows you not to be too orthodox in your thinking and certainly not too judgmental in your thinking.

[2824] You know what else too that I think is very important and I've monitored in my own life.

[2825] I'm, I don't, I don't, have a problem with depression, but I do have days where I feel better and days where I don't feel as good.

[2826] And a lot of that is dictated by how I choose to think.

[2827] A lot of that is dictated by how I manage my life, whether I'm happy with things that I'm doing, and how I choose to pursue my thinking.

[2828] And I think there's a certain amount of what that is that makes you feel happy and makes you feel sad that is manageable and I think to there's a there's definitely a danger in putting it all on a disease and all on a pill and for some people it most certainly is a disease but there are people that have some wiggle room in their life and they can turn their life into a much more positive experience for themselves if they just choose to manage it correctly there's this is not excluding people that have a legit medical condition and have legit medical depression and there's some sort of a chemical imbalance not at all but I'm saying there's a lot of us that aren't depressed like me that you can manipulate the way your mind feels you can manipulate the way your your your view of the earth is what you choose to focus on yeah you know that's a hundred percent true you you you know I always think about that how you manage what you choose to think about and the perspective that you take my God they've done that you know anxiety When a behavioral psychologist, we used to always say, you got to get rid of your anxiety.

[2829] And now what they say is if you think of anxiety in terms of just your body getting ready for action, as opposed to, oh, no, this anxiety is going to kill me. Your blood vessels look very differently.

[2830] So the how you view your own anxiety and the attitude you take, your blood vessels will either constrict, which is not good, but if you look at anxiety is, here I go, my body's getting ready for this, I'm getting ready.

[2831] your blood vessels and your heart looks exactly the way it does in moments of joy and courage and that's from a fucking great TED talk again I can't remember I wish I could tell some people could watch it but really interesting how you look how you choose to think about your own anxiety has everything to do with how whether it's healthy for you or bad for you and if you choose to think about anxiety in the right way there's a lot of evidence measurable evidence based on a study that followed, I think, 30 ,000 Americans over nine years, that suggests that it actually can be good for you.

[2832] That makes sense if you think about it because you're shifting what it is and what it becomes is energy.

[2833] Yes.

[2834] And like, this is like, oh, I've got this anxiety, but you know what?

[2835] This is a growth moment.

[2836] This is important.

[2837] This means we're getting something done.

[2838] Something is happening.

[2839] Yes.

[2840] And concentrate on like that.

[2841] You used to say that.

[2842] You used to always say, I like those moments where I'm not sure what's going to happen next.

[2843] Yeah, I do.

[2844] Very important.

[2845] Fucking important.

[2846] Well, I'm a little too much, though.

[2847] It's called adventure.

[2848] It's called adventure.

[2849] Adventure.

[2850] It is.

[2851] That's my nickname.

[2852] Adventure is not knowing what's going to happen next.

[2853] What I like to do is run the podcast out in the last five minutes, like we're at right now and wonder when the tape's going to run out.

[2854] Why does it last only three hours?

[2855] It's fucking U -stream.

[2856] If we were on, if we had the balls to switch over to YouTube or Twitch.

[2857] Three hours is a long time.

[2858] Yeah, it's enough.

[2859] It seems like a good number.

[2860] People get mad now when I do two.

[2861] I did two hours yesterday with Rhonda Rousey.

[2862] People were complaining.

[2863] or more.

[2864] They called me a lazy do -nothing bitch.

[2865] Jesus, those bastards.

[2866] They call me a do -nothing bitch.

[2867] I don't read any of my comments.

[2868] Well, it's dangerous.

[2869] I heard a comic friend of mine.

[2870] I was talking shit about me and Brennan.

[2871] I thought it was...

[2872] Who?

[2873] Say his name.

[2874] Don't.

[2875] No, but I'll talk about it afterwards.

[2876] But it was surprising.

[2877] He's like a young guy I like and...

[2878] He might have been misconstrued.

[2879] Yeah, it might have been...

[2880] Who knows?

[2881] Or he might be jealous bitch.

[2882] He was mad.

[2883] Might be sad.

[2884] Might not be happy.

[2885] I like him.

[2886] I feel bad.

[2887] Might not get null laid.

[2888] Um, maybe you, uh, misgendered him with the wrong pronoun.

[2889] Try Z. Hey, ladies, ladies gentlemen and zirs.

[2890] Here, you can call them here.

[2891] They're teaching new pronouns.

[2892] September 23rd, come see me and Joe.

[2893] September 22nd, come see me and Joe at the ice house.

[2894] September 23rd, come see me and Joe at the Hong Kong Inn at 8 o 'clock and 10 o 'clock.

[2895] We had an 8 o 'clock show just now.

[2896] Yeah, but where can they buy the tickets for that?

[2897] Do we know?

[2898] We haven't even advertised it.

[2899] Yeah, just go to the Hong Kong Inn.

[2900] Oh, yeah, it's Hong Kong in, Hong Kongin .com.

[2901] Yeah.

[2902] Yeah, the ice house tickets are not on sale yet, either.

[2903] But Hong Kongin .com, you can buy.

[2904] They'll sell out immediately.

[2905] Yeah, and this Friday, I'm at the Caugh Theater.

[2906] If you go into the UFC in Vegas, I'm at the Caught Theater on Friday night with Greg Fitzsimmons and Ian Edwards.

[2907] Love both those guys.

[2908] Beattime fun, you fucks.

[2909] I'm at the San Jose Improv, September 25th, 26, 27.

[2910] One of my favorite places ever.

[2911] That was a beautiful place.

[2912] I can't.

[2913] I've only done it once a long time ago.

[2914] It was a old time, like theater theater.

[2915] And they converted it into a comedy club.

[2916] beautiful it's one of the best improvs in the country yeah it's awesome awesome people i can't wait to do it all right you fuckers thank you very much everybody much love love you all big kiss bye bye