#1180 - Everlast

[0] five four three two ladies and gentlemen live and available right now everlast whitey ford house of pain you yes sir how are you sir how are you doing man see you brother good to see you again been a minute you're going to vegas this weekend for the fights yeah man we got a little party the night before we're we're doing a little show at the brooklyn bowl with my buddy evidence and and my crew cell around you don't know wear headphones oh i'll put the headphones i feel like i'm alone here with the headphones on there we go here we go now we're on the same team now we're locked in um um um Um, this is out?

[1] This is out, right?

[2] Yeah, it came out about three weeks ago, something like that, maybe a month.

[3] Beautiful.

[4] I've been in Europe for the whole month just touring, so.

[5] This is like everything.

[6] Everlast presents Whitey Ford's House of Pain.

[7] Yeah, it's a lot going on.

[8] It's everything in the toolbox I brought to this record.

[9] So that's kind of where the title came from.

[10] Just, you know, it's been eight years since my last real studio album.

[11] So I figured, hey, maybe this could be the last one.

[12] I hope not.

[13] But just like, you know, I mean, like, you know, like, you know, know that my story it's like you know with the family i'm i dedicate a lot more of my time to the family than i used you know yeah um just because of some of the you know um extra issues we deal with which everything is wonderful and great now you know and dude i'm 30 pounds lighter than the last time i was here how did you do that i honestly it started here because i'm i i put i purposely came here that day it was the first time if you remember it was a while ago i didn't even done a thousand podcast since that day but uh it was the first time i come out and they started talking about anything like, you know, that was going on in my life in a public way.

[14] And, you know, I got a lot off my chest that day.

[15] And I also planned that day to put myself in a position to hold myself accountable by stating, I don't feel good about the way I look right now.

[16] And I reached out for, like, theoretically for help.

[17] You know, and I got an incredible response from the podcast audience and my own fans.

[18] I mean, I got offered from everybody everywhere, how to do this, that, the other didn't really need that because within my own circle some people stepped up and I also did it to hold myself accountable to put it in the universe like I've thrown it out there now like I put it up there on the wall and stamped it and said here's what I want out of life right now and you know there's nobody stopping me but me and sometimes some of the things I used to you I used to get on and see you talking about I'm not letting this inner bitch kick my ass today and I and I just started taking things like that to heart you know and again how did you change what did you do different.

[19] I mean, we started talking about it last time.

[20] Therapy, you know what I mean?

[21] It's helped a lot for me because of this, you know, the added pressures our family faces with my oldest daughter having cystic fibrosis, you know, it just, for a long time, it was just learning how to live life with it, you know, and that got heavy.

[22] There was some real dark, you know, heavy moments, you know, scary moments for her in the hospital, you know.

[23] So we, I mean, as a human, you know, you have this baby and you're just trying to figure out how to not, screw it up with a normal health situation, you know, this is this added thing.

[24] So it took a long time for me to come to turns at first.

[25] I got really angry.

[26] I got into some real, you know, Lieutenant Dan, War with God kind of stuff, you know, at the top of the sailboat flip, you know, I was there all the way.

[27] And it got to a point where I almost, I was that, I almost got locked up for trying to fight a cop that was, you know, trying to just talk to me about something.

[28] You know, I just lost one.

[29] I had no, I had so much.

[30] anger over so much that I wasn't dealing with.

[31] And then I found a guy that just really got me therapist.

[32] And it began the ball rolling of understanding how to how to cope with a lot of that stuff.

[33] Wow.

[34] So as far as like, first of all, you look really good.

[35] Thank you, man. Your face looks great.

[36] Your skin looks good.

[37] I'm taking a lot better care of myself.

[38] It looks like it.

[39] Thank you.

[40] What are you doing different as far as like how you eat?

[41] Just eating cleaner, you know, just trying not to, you know, to be more aware of what's in the food and what's in the meat and stuff.

[42] You know, I'm still part of the whole commercial meat system, though I long to get into a situation where I'm hunting and doing things like that.

[43] It's just...

[44] We had talked about that for a while.

[45] You wanted to try hunting pigs at a Tahoe Ridge.

[46] Well, I asked you what would be the best, you know, starting point.

[47] And you were like, you know, they got bore up there at Hohen, and I know some guys.

[48] And I actually contacted them and I just, again, this life...

[49] You're so busy.

[50] It's not just this.

[51] It's the added stress of like, you know, I have a wife that when I go on the road, she's the sole handler of these problems.

[52] You know, I mean?

[53] And so that these things, you know, pile on you guilt and this, you know, stress and all this, you know.

[54] And so, yeah, it's just between that.

[55] When I'm home, I just invest myself.

[56] I want to be home.

[57] I want to do as much as I can to lift that weight.

[58] So, like, I get caught about the things, all the things I want to do, I can't do all the time, you know what I mean?

[59] But it started again, now I'm taking care of myself.

[60] Like, I'm actually about to start jujitsu again, you know, which I, yeah, because forever, I was so goddamn fast.

[61] in the middle of hip escapes where like you know every I was hurting my back or my neck every other time I tried to do I just quit because it was getting you know I mean I mean I wasn't super advanced I was probably pretty close to getting a blue belt you know I was about a year in on like four lessons a week with just the private you know I was with Marcus venice I said Beverly Hills jiu jitsu for a while so now I'm I'm just looking to see what I want to do you know I've talked to Eddie a few times I'm talking to a few other guys Kron has thrown some advice my way doing any exercise at all besides that cardio not much weights or anything like that just you know keeping it moving i'd two hours two hours on stage tonight right yeah it's good to do something first uh i feel like uh i always tell people like jujitsu is so grueling that i think of why i mean you could just jump in and you will get in shape through jiu jitsu but a good thing to do is like to find a place that teaches you kettlebells and take some kettlebell classes and just just get your body strong enough that it can do that.

[62] Well, I remember one of the things Marcus used to do, Marcus used to run me around the gym for 30 minutes before we could even start a lesson.

[63] Like, I literally had to puke for the first, like, month.

[64] Yeah, that's that old school way.

[65] A lot of those.

[66] And then it would take so long that he would be like, all right, you're past the puking thing.

[67] You ran, you know, you know, but at first I would like literally be run until I was puked.

[68] And then the crazy part about it was 15 minutes after you felt great.

[69] Like, yeah, when you were doing the lessons.

[70] So it was all work.

[71] Yeah, those, the old school guys, that's how they used to do it.

[72] They used to, like, all the old school Carlson Gracie classes, you'd have a grueling physical workout first.

[73] Hip escapes, push -ups, sit -ups, body weight squats, all this different stuff.

[74] There's a good thought process behind that, not just that it gets you in shape, but also that you learn how to do jiu -jitsu when you're tired.

[75] So that you learn how to just use technique and not use, like, physical strength.

[76] You almost have no choice but to relax.

[77] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[78] There's people that disagree with that, though, they think.

[79] think you learn technique when you're fresh and it like sits in better but it's just two different schools of thought you know i don't think either one is right it's definitely good to understand what it's like to be tired and how to how to train and how to how to push yourself when you're tired sure yeah i'm excited i'm really looking forward to it like i just started talking about like about two weeks ago really getting back into it well that's a lot of weight to lose man that's a big accomplishment i got 15 to go to really to hit my goal yeah i want to be 225 is good weight yeah um are you taking vitamins or supplements or anything along those like a daily um but i you know i have restrictions because i take blood thinners and stuff because of this titanium heart valve i have so like i have to have a vitamin that's devoid of uh vitamin k because that's what makes your blood clot so i like a lot of things like a lot of the juicing things and like things like that when you want to go on a juice cleanse i can't do it because it's like a lot of it's kale based and like kale is heavy green with it's high in vitamin k It'll totally, like, screw up my blood chemistry with, you know, because I'm going the other direction with blood thinners.

[80] Jesus Christ.

[81] I have to.

[82] Otherwise, like, a clock could hit, like, stick to that titanium valve, break off and wind up in my brain, you know what I mean?

[83] And then I'm stroked out, and that's the last thing we need.

[84] Fuck.

[85] Yeah, I remember when you put the microphone up to your heart and you can hear that.

[86] Yeah, I'm so, so, like, when I'm in here, I keep feeling like it, you can hear it anyway.

[87] It's, like, all through this.

[88] I hear it.

[89] This white noise to me. If I want to hear it, I can hear it.

[90] I can take my pulse like this just by.

[91] telling you.

[92] Wow.

[93] Two, three.

[94] You can feel it?

[95] I can hear it in my own skull.

[96] Like, I can hear it in my bones.

[97] I can hear it, it's in me. How long is that good for?

[98] Forever.

[99] Forever?

[100] As long as I take care of it.

[101] I mean, it's been 20 years, literally, in 2018.

[102] It happened in 98.

[103] Wow.

[104] And I just get, you know, as long as I keep the the blood thinners going and, you know, I get checked, you know, two times, three times a year, you know.

[105] And then the blood thinners are because if you got a clot, it would somehow I know they get stuck in that valve.

[106] A clock could, like, or, you know, it's a titanium valve, so the clock could actually form on it.

[107] The metal, like, it could, the blood, if it's the blood's too sticky and too, you know, has too much clod, it could stick to the bout, then break off and then wind up in your brain.

[108] Whoa.

[109] You know, so.

[110] What is the difference?

[111] What is the difference between that and, like, a regular valve?

[112] What would happen with the regular valve?

[113] Well, the other choice would have been a pig valve, and those are good for about 15 years.

[114] Like, they'd usually.

[115] I would have to open you up again.

[116] Yeah, yeah, I would have to have it done.

[117] I'd probably be due.

[118] Yeah, probably right now, too.

[119] Like, I'd be like, oh, here I go.

[120] Yeah, yeah, they do that for older people is what they do.

[121] Like, you know, when you get into your 60s, they'll, you know, they'll really explore that because.

[122] Pig valve.

[123] They don't think you're going to be around 50 more years, you know.

[124] They just say, well, here, just for now.

[125] Yeah, so it's called a St. Jude's, uh, St. Jude's artificial valve.

[126] Powerful medical technology.

[127] Eddie Bravo's got a titanium disc in his back now.

[128] Yeah, he just had a surgery.

[129] That's right.

[130] Yeah, his back moves around great.

[131] Like, he was fully compressed where there was, like, nothing left.

[132] It was basically bone -on -bone.

[133] He was in pain all the time, and they just open him up and put a fake valve in there.

[134] That's crazy.

[135] Or fake disc, rather, in there.

[136] But it's articulating, so it, like, moves around, like, a regular disc.

[137] Like, his, it doesn't, it's not, like, he's fused.

[138] You know, you've seen people that are all fused.

[139] Yeah, they get to fused.

[140] I have a friend that got that down.

[141] Yeah, they're super stiff.

[142] Yeah.

[143] Like, wherever it is, is basically locked down.

[144] There's no movement to it anymore.

[145] But Eddie's is actually it moves like a real disc Yeah But shit that's going to be coming down the pipeline It's going to be crazy, man Yeah, I mean I know people with fake everything I know people with fake hips and fake knees and Fake heart valves Fake heart valves Yeah yeah it's amazing I mean at a certain point in time They're just going to replace your whole body And take your brain out and put it in some new body Or you're just going to be able to download your consciousness Yeah that's what Elon was saying Yo you man got in trouble mad trouble He didn't really It made some noise, man. Yeah, but here's the deal, dude.

[146] When you got $25 billion, all trouble is bullshit.

[147] Truth.

[148] It's like, good luck with your trouble.

[149] Yeah.

[150] You're in trouble, Elon.

[151] Oh, yeah.

[152] He's out there with a fucking flamethrower, shooting rocket ships into the atmosphere.

[153] Yeah, that flamethrower is crazy, too.

[154] It does whatever he wants, man. He's basically like a little kid who's a genius.

[155] Can you actually buy that?

[156] Is that like for sale?

[157] There's one right there.

[158] Oh, you kidding.

[159] Right there.

[160] Yeah.

[161] He sold them all out, like in like, Two days or something, right?

[162] Oh, man, I don't doubt it.

[163] I would have been on the head I've been hit.

[164] What are you going to do with it, though?

[165] That's just fun.

[166] It's just, you have a flamethrower.

[167] But it's literally called not a flamethrower.

[168] Yeah.

[169] It's amazing.

[170] Yeah, it's basically what you saw in the movie, aliens.

[171] Remember the second alien when they're shooting the flames at the aliens?

[172] That's what that thing is.

[173] Yeah, I seen him on something just the other day.

[174] It almost looked like it was it here where it looked like you were going to set the building on fire?

[175] Yeah, that was in here.

[176] Yeah, that was in here.

[177] on my Instagram.

[178] Yeah, he's a madman.

[179] The world needs more of those, more people like him, not more flamethrowers.

[180] Yeah.

[181] Plenty of flamethrowers.

[182] So, are you looking forward to the fights this weekend?

[183] I'm super jacked for it, man. We got this little show before.

[184] Is anybody coming out to jump around?

[185] I don't know.

[186] They have to.

[187] You know, I'm waiting for Connor to, you know.

[188] How does he not adopt that song?

[189] Well, he comes out to Senate O 'Connor, right?

[190] Like he does like usually like that into like the notorious like song like the you know the yeah I don't know the notorious right right yeah who was coming out to jump around Marcus Davis did he did I know uh Cavillo that that that the the female fighter uh she's Cynthia Coveos yes yeah yeah yeah I know she comes out to jump around right I met her at a fight she was super cool she was super super super super cool quite a few people have come out to it.

[191] I think Mashita came out to it once.

[192] Really?

[193] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[194] Yeah.

[195] He's over in Beltoe now.

[196] I'm not always sure they have a choice.

[197] Sometimes I just think, Dana says, you're coming out to jump around.

[198] Well, he definitely takes away bad choices.

[199] I might be the sub when there's a really shitty choice.

[200] Like, here, throw that in there.

[201] But then Darren Till came out to Sweet Carolina.

[202] He came out to, who is that?

[203] Neil Diamond.

[204] Yeah.

[205] And he had the whole crowd singing along.

[206] I'm like, this is crazy.

[207] Crazy.

[208] Was that in Boston or in that area of the country?

[209] No, it was, where was that fight?

[210] Chicago makes sense.

[211] You know, Diamond.

[212] Wasn't it in Chicago?

[213] No. It was Dallas.

[214] That's strange.

[215] That's a little weird.

[216] You should have came out to Hank Williams.

[217] Yeah, it was weird.

[218] It was weird.

[219] Yeah.

[220] It's just like, you know, that's a big deal.

[221] Like walkout songs are a big deal.

[222] You can't have a whack -out.

[223] That's the tone.

[224] The thing for me is when I hear one of my songs, I'm just always like, oh, please win.

[225] I'm just like, oh, please win.

[226] I'm just like, oh, please win.

[227] Yeah, it's like, oh, man, come on, man. Like, John Anick does stats on fist bumps.

[228] Like, how many times people fist bump Bruce Buffer, whether or not they win or lose?

[229] You know, like, and Diego Sanchez broke the curse in his last fight.

[230] He fist bumped Bruce, and he won.

[231] So the fist bump was a curse?

[232] We were trying to figure it out.

[233] Oh, okay.

[234] Because he was like, I think it's like 50 -50 right now, like whether or not people, when they fist -bump Bruce Buffer, whether they win.

[235] And there was a bad streak for a while, like three or four people in a row lost that were fist -bumping.

[236] You know, Bruce gives you the intro, you know, when he gives you the intro, you know, Diego, a nightmare, Sanchez, he gives a little fist -bump.

[237] And if you fist -bump them back, you know, if you do engage in that, like, Annick was like trying to figure out, like, Annick is kind of.

[238] of a degenerate gambler in the most positive way.

[239] I mean, he's not losing his family or his life, but he fucking loves gambling.

[240] And so he's always, like, giving you stats on this and that.

[241] Finding something to put a bet on, right?

[242] I mean, it's not even things he actually bets on, but he's always thinking that way.

[243] Could you bet on it?

[244] Yeah.

[245] I wonder if you could bet on how many people who fist bump Bruce Buffer.

[246] You could find somebody to take the bet.

[247] The thought process would be you're not totally in the zone if you got the time to fist bump Bruce Buffer.

[248] I'm not sure if I buy it, though.

[249] No, because it's also your moment when you're saying your name and it's like, yeah, I'd be in that.

[250] Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

[251] It's tricky.

[252] It's tricky.

[253] Well, it sounds like it's about even, so it's just one of them things.

[254] Someone should do stats on it because John Anick has only done like, you know, just off the top of his head.

[255] There's some guy in his basement right now starting.

[256] Oh, for sure.

[257] It's starting to watch the fights.

[258] Yeah, for sure.

[259] write it down okay let's take the notes well you could basically bet on anything these days right in Vegas yeah you can pretty much find a lot of things that you wouldn't think you could bet on you that you can I don't even bet but I like the fact that you can bet on everything why not yeah over unders coin flips and it's also I like that it's freedom I don't like this idea that people are telling you what you can and can't do with your money like you can't gamble your money away you have to go to a spot in the desert like why says who Says who?

[260] Like, why can't you gamble right here?

[261] Why can't you have a casino?

[262] Why can't you have a casino on every corner?

[263] Who cares?

[264] Like, well, people are going to lose our paycheck and lose our family and lose our...

[265] Will they really?

[266] Will they really?

[267] Is that what's going to do it?

[268] Is it the casino?

[269] Maybe for a while, but then people will be like, you know, we shouldn't go there as much.

[270] Yeah, it's like the infantilization of people, you know, keep them, protect them from themselves.

[271] You don't protect them from liquor stores or, fast cars, you know, those things are everywhere.

[272] Everywhere.

[273] It's a good point, right?

[274] Yeah.

[275] I'm with you, man. I could never live in Vegas, though.

[276] I could live in Vegas, you know, if it was between Beirut and Vegas.

[277] You know, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Vegas.

[278] For sure.

[279] Let's do it.

[280] I'll figure it out.

[281] But, you know, it just seems to me like, this just, the whole thing is, it's built.

[282] I mean, there's shows, and it's wonderful, and there's neon, there's great restaurants, and all that stuff.

[283] But it's also built on you losing money.

[284] Yeah.

[285] The whole thing is built on you losing money.

[286] And what's the real population of Vegas?

[287] Like a half a million people?

[288] Like that of people that aren't there visiting, gambling, and for the fuckery?

[289] Let's take a guess.

[290] I'm guessing like half a million people.

[291] Yeah.

[292] I bet you're about right.

[293] Six?

[294] Six hundred and thirty thousand.

[295] I'm not that far off, man. Pretty close.

[296] Yeah, it's a good guess.

[297] Would that have been, would that's close enough to win the bet?

[298] Yeah, yeah.

[299] Yeah.

[300] Yeah, I mean, if the price is right.

[301] Yeah, so you've got a real small town there that's acting like a city, too.

[302] It's kind of weird.

[303] You know?

[304] Well, like, what is the population at any given time with all the hotels filled?

[305] Oh, I would probably guess.

[306] Like, this weekend's a big weekend.

[307] At least double.

[308] More than that, probably, right?

[309] I'm saying, at least, even like an off season off day, you're probably at least double that.

[310] But a lot of the folks that work in Vegas, they live in like Henderson or someone like that.

[311] Well, you can go in some nice neighborhood.

[312] The kids can ride bikes in the street.

[313] It's, like, normal.

[314] over there to a summerland too that's that's really nice over there yes yeah there's a few of those spots yeah actually like staying over there at that red rock that's nice yeah off that I don't like the strip there's too much fuckery man too much that's why I like you I just like it quiet if I want the fuckery I'll take a cap to the fuckery exactly the fuckery's over 40 minutes away it's actually says there's one and a half million people there but at any given time probably more like that yeah so for the fights what about a big fight weekend I'm looking for it's typed in for hotels, how many people are in the hotel rooms?

[315] I guess there's 148 ,000 rooms.

[316] Whoa.

[317] Dude, there might be 148 ,000 Irish people there this weekend.

[318] Just screaming.

[319] If you're there this weekend, just pay attention because it's going to be bananas.

[320] The last time for the Mayweather fight, there was a video that someone posted of Mandalay Bay.

[321] And Mandalay Bay was not even where the fight was taking place.

[322] And the Irish had this one hallway completely filled.

[323] And they were all singing.

[324] They were singing some crazy Irish song.

[325] They showed down like 6th Avenue in New York.

[326] They don't give a fuck.

[327] It's one little island.

[328] It's a little island.

[329] It's not big.

[330] They all got on a plane.

[331] It's fucking crazy.

[332] And there's a lot of us here, too.

[333] You know, and I say us.

[334] I got a little in me, one quarter.

[335] There's so many more Irish or Irish part Irish people in America.

[336] There's more than there are Irish people in Ireland.

[337] They did a lot of fucking.

[338] Yeah.

[339] They came over here and.

[340] did a lot of fucking, and they weren't discriminated about, you know, color or creed or any of that.

[341] Meanwhile, Jamie's got a notorious t -shirt on with Irish flag.

[342] Look at you, Savage.

[343] Is that available at youngjami .com?

[344] There's a link there if you need it.

[345] Oh, my goodness.

[346] Powerful commerce.

[347] I want to try this whiskey, honestly, that he's got.

[348] I got it.

[349] Yeah, you're a whiskey expert, right?

[350] I want to lay hands on it and see you.

[351] What's a good whiskey?

[352] I actually was going to bring you a bottle of this, and I will next time, but I didn't because of out of respect for sober October.

[353] Sober October may be falling apart.

[354] I'm going to tell you right now, ladies and gentlemen, Burt Crush is going on a cruise, and Ari Shafir and Tom Skerra both gave him the green light to drink because this fitness challenge is falling apart.

[355] Meanwhile, Bert is strongly in last place.

[356] Yeah, all that talk about the Mickey Mantle gene, he's not even close.

[357] But what's fascinating is Ari Shafir is very close to me. He's only, he posted today before my workout, that sneaky bitch, that he was ahead of me but that's how close he is he's so close that before his workout he was like a hundred points ahead of me before my workout rather after his now he's like 400 points behind me but that's uh that's close 400 points is one workout if you're an asshole and you want to get on a fucking treadmill for two hours you can bang out 400 points I banged out 500 today 5 .07 at the end of the workout you're a beast too it's not a beast man it's boring Red Breast.

[358] I was watching Gladiator.

[359] There's little red spikes in my workout where I hit 90.

[360] That's when the fights were happening.

[361] I got amped.

[362] You might end up doing podcasts while you're on an electrical for the end of the month.

[363] Eh, it would suck.

[364] Red breast is my favorite new whiskey.

[365] Red breast.

[366] Who makes that?

[367] It's red breast.

[368] It's like an Irish whiskey.

[369] I'm going to bring you a bottle of the 20 -year -old.

[370] It's gorgeous.

[371] 20 years old.

[372] Yeah, yeah.

[373] It's beautiful.

[374] What was that shit that we drank with?

[375] Stanhope.

[376] That was really good.

[377] Was it Stanhope?

[378] No. Elon.

[379] Stanhope brought it.

[380] And doesn't some band make it?

[381] That's the...

[382] Florida Georgian Line or some shit?

[383] Do they make it?

[384] Is it theirs?

[385] Yeah.

[386] It's like a pop band.

[387] They make a good whiskey.

[388] They're like a country band, I think.

[389] Country pop, whatever.

[390] Listen, man, if you call yourself country but you get them fake rips in your jeans, you can go suck a bag of dips.

[391] Okay?

[392] That ain't country.

[393] Not saying that they have that.

[394] I don't even know.

[395] But you know what I'm saying?

[396] Like those fake rips in the jeans drive me. I might have a couple little fake rips in my jeans over here.

[397] I don't think you do.

[398] I checked.

[399] Those fake rips drive me goddamn bananas.

[400] Like, what are we?

[401] We're pretending that we work hard?

[402] What are we pretending that we've had these genes for a long time and they're special to us?

[403] Or do we just buy them off the shelf at Macy's pre -ripped like assholes?

[404] Like, where the fuck did that take place?

[405] Like, if our grandparents, who.

[406] made it through the depression could come over here and see us buying ripped jeans they would realize like what is wrong with this nerfed up softened down fucking shitty country we live in america it's too easy too easy to get by we need wolves in the streets young eric wolves you'll get me started dude can't be running around with fucking fake rips in your jeans me on brandon shob one of my best friends does that oh who's this that's them that's them with the, ah, I nailed it.

[407] I didn't even mean to nail it.

[408] I didn't even mean that.

[409] I just took a wild guess.

[410] I don't know a goddamn thing about these fellas.

[411] Go to that other one.

[412] Go to that last picture.

[413] You're gonna make me put the glasses on here.

[414] Look at, look at those jeans.

[415] Make that bigger.

[416] He looks like he got a tacked by a shark.

[417] I got some paint.

[418] Oh, you do have some.

[419] You got some fucked up shit on your jeans.

[420] I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep it real, though.

[421] I'm not going to let you go in on them.

[422] Not come claim my jeans here Listen, I should shut the fuck up I'm basically wearing yoga pants I got these barbell jeans on these aren't even jeans These are goddamn yoga pants All jeans are made of weird Like this ain't I mean well these don't do that These aren't even jeans These are actually denim These are like they might as well be spandex I might as well be wearing yoga pants But most most pants are that now Even the ones that look like jeans A lot of them are that Yeah they feel better Technology It's called advancement in human civilization Yeah you want to drive a car With leaf springs like an asshole or do you want some new magnetic Cadillac escalade You want the breeze to, you know, cruise through your pants, or you want to, you know, be sweaty all you like?

[423] The breeze from the fake holes?

[424] I'll take the sweat like a man. I'm going to rock mine because I got skinny enough to wear these motherfuckers.

[425] Okay, I respect that.

[426] I'm going to wear these.

[427] And wifey likes these motherfuckers.

[428] Well, that's two pluses.

[429] Just don't wear cowboy boots.

[430] Oh, hell, right.

[431] You know, we rockin the sneakers for life, do it.

[432] My friend Cam Haynes, he wears them cowboy boots, and I just shut my mouth, look down with those big old wooden heels.

[433] I think Andrew Santino's bit.

[434] You ever seen Andrew Santino's bit?

[435] He's got a bit about dudes who wear cowboy boots.

[436] Holy shit, is it funny?

[437] Oh, my God.

[438] Oh, look it up on the tube.

[439] I don't even know if it.

[440] He might not even put it on a special yet, but he's a whole bit about dudes dressed up, like, with cowboy hats on in cowboy boots fucking hilarious Anyway But I digress What's this A cow skull With the third eye What's that?

[441] Just a sweatshirt I liked Okay I like it too It's one of those Brand called Adaptation Hmm Interesting Has a fake hole in the elbow Oh Jesus Sorry dude Jesus For disgrace I'm not going I'm not going Not tell the truth What is happening With the holes How did that happen What happened to us?

[442] I'm sorry dude disappointing you so much the reality is this is what's fucked up why does it look better because it kind of does kind of looks better if you're wearing a shirt and it's got like even if it's a new shirt it's got like those little holes around the collar little tiny holes like a little bit a little bit of rip here a little tiny rip there why does it look better i don't know maybe it's because it's not maybe there's some psychological way of ripping things that some people are more talented at it that they just know where to make it cool they make it look like i mean when we were young Like, if you had, like, a pair of Levi's where the knee was getting thin, we would advance that shit.

[443] You know, there was something cool.

[444] Yeah, you would, like, if it was like, we didn't do it or, like, rip them up like they do nowadays.

[445] But, like, say you had a pair of jeans long enough, you know, the knees would get thin.

[446] If they ripped a little, you just kind of run with it, maybe stress them out, rip them a little bit more.

[447] Yeah, why not?

[448] I don't like that.

[449] Oh, well.

[450] Presenting the $1 ,625 designer t -shirt complete with tears and holes.

[451] Okay, we can all agree.

[452] If you buy that, you're a fucking asshole.

[453] If you spent $1 ,000 on a t -shirt, you're kind of an ass.

[454] The only good thing about that is, I think that's a lady's t -shirt, and them holes are right, bum, damn tete -tie.

[455] And all she has to do is bend over to tie her shoes, and it might not be a nip slip.

[456] It might be a nip poke -through, right?

[457] Like, look where those holes are.

[458] Quite possibly.

[459] Those titis are jutting out, right?

[460] Look at that.

[461] You know how that works, too.

[462] She might not even be wearing that shirt.

[463] That might not even be a person, bro.

[464] You know me?

[465] That might be a mannequin.

[466] Right?

[467] Yeah, they do things in that.

[468] they just put different shirts on shit with Photoshop and shit now.

[469] It's crazy.

[470] Yeah, but that's a stupid shirt.

[471] That's a $1 ,600 shirt.

[472] Look at this one.

[473] There's a T -shirt that has a button -down shirt sewn to the front of it.

[474] What?

[475] Dude, it was like on the blogs a couple weeks ago.

[476] You know what I'm talking about.

[477] See, he's in the sneaker blogs.

[478] Some of that shit leaks through and shit.

[479] So I'm like, you see like these crazy designer crazy bullshit.

[480] Do you wear all jisies?

[481] I have a couple pairs, but I don't really wear them.

[482] not much.

[483] Thank you.

[484] I'm more of a Jordan guy.

[485] You ever thought about lighting him on fire?

[486] Sometimes like when I, you know, the dude's kind of bad shit crazy.

[487] I actually say that on his album.

[488] I say I'm bat shit crazier than yay and Sarah Palin.

[489] Oh, look at this.

[490] Yeah, that's a real thing.

[491] Oh, good Lord.

[492] That's a real thing.

[493] So one side has a t -shirt.

[494] Yeah.

[495] And then the other thing is sewn to the front.

[496] But like it doesn't even, it looks like it's hanging there.

[497] It is just hanging there.

[498] But it doesn't even look like you're wearing it.

[499] It's stapled to the front of your shirt.

[500] What?

[501] Hold on.

[502] Go back to that price.

[503] Yeah, $1 ,300.

[504] That's what I was saying.

[505] That's worse than the t -shirt.

[506] You're going to buy one right now?

[507] Oh, my God.

[508] $1 ,300.

[509] Wow.

[510] For that.

[511] Do you see Kanye jumped on the table at a university?

[512] He was talking about leave Elon Musk alone?

[513] That dude's lost his mind, man. What's going on?

[514] I don't know, man. You know, there's a lot of people that speculate, and that's all I would say, this is from me. But ever since that man's mother died, he's been on a downward spiral, like, losing his shit.

[515] Well.

[516] You know, I think he's suffering from some serious, like, mental shit.

[517] No bullshit.

[518] He did get into a serious car accident, right?

[519] Broke his jaw.

[520] Yeah, yeah, before that.

[521] He was seriously injured.

[522] A few years before that.

[523] That is not a joke.

[524] No. Like, brain trauma, and listen, I'm not a doctor or anything you've remotely.

[525] related to one but i've been around a lot of people who've been hitting the head a lot that shit's real like that that will change your brain chemistry it's 100 % legit like getting hit in the head is no bueno and car accidents will fuck people up forever some people some people are okay they get they recover but boy there's a lot of people that come back for some significant head trauma and just they're scrambled man and he might be one of those and it also might be what i talked about in my last special triggered but you live with crazy bitches long enough i remember they get to something happens you were talking about the soul stealing suck you by it might be true dude that was an amazing routine i got to tell you well i was trying to figure out a way that i'd get away with making fun of bruce jenna without being called transphobic i had to go a circuitous route it was brilliant to go a long route saw you do it at the coiff first time i thought yeah yeah i had to drag connia in that too.

[526] Dude, look, drag every male that's gone into that circle into it.

[527] Every one.

[528] We lost them all.

[529] It's spooky.

[530] Lamar Odom was like a world champion basketball player, dude.

[531] He just got cracked out.

[532] Reggie Bush, what happened to him?

[533] Reggie Bush got wise and fucking took.

[534] He just, bailed.

[535] He's got my old car.

[536] Reggie Bush has my 1970 barracuda.

[537] Is that right?

[538] Yeah, yeah.

[539] I sold it to this other dude and this other dude sold it to Reggie.

[540] And he dragged.

[541] drives around that car it's a dope car that is a dope car yeah so he's got some taste yeah and he got wise weird things are going on over there man he smashed and bolted that's how you do it and he's he smashed before the fake ass came into the picture too that's another phenomenon i don't even understand diaper butt it does it's like well i like a nice round butt yeah i like a real one i like a real yeah there's my car there's my car it's not my car it's his now yeah look at that reggie You glorious bastard You had her first Yeah Not a really good car Really good car to look at How to get rid of it Oh yeah That's the Ray J song right I didn't even realize That I was just making an innuendo Right But there you go Full circle You wouldn't want to take second place To Reggie Bush too That guy is built like a brick shit house You know he was smashing that Right whatever he damaged he did to that He probably was like a car accident.

[542] Maybe all that fake -ass shit came after him.

[543] You get hit by that dude?

[544] I read she used to wake up before him and get hot towels ready and put his toothpaste on his toothbrush.

[545] Smart.

[546] Yeah.

[547] Treat him like a king.

[548] Hey.

[549] He probably just smashed it.

[550] She was probably all day, just delirious, just from all the orgasms, just walking around, bumping into walls and shit.

[551] This is a picture of him and her by the pool, and you look at him and you go, that guy must beat just smashing that he's a super athlete i mean that guy is built like a fucking superhero all of them that's all they really date yeah right for the most part yeah except conier yeah she need to settle down catch a breath and he came behind a basketball player too right that's right that basketball player do the dude who was on the show all the time that guy was on the show all the time yeah crazy living i can't even see living your life like out there in fucking public just everything fucking bid of your business oh that would be a nightmare to me well it's also not interesting but yet edited so well that you you just go slack jaw and you just watch it's just they switch from one scene to another quick enough so that you keep watching it and when it's over nothing happened nothing and you're like what the fuck did i do with my hour you gave it to them and they advertised like 18 in products that they got paid for and they made a fucking ass load of money when you find out how much that family is made you just go wait wait wait what what it's it's amazing yeah can't can't hate can't hate you shouldn't you should make fun make fun all day yeah make fun all day please that's that's our god -given right yes when you get that much money yes if i get that much money yes i can't even get mad no matter how much fun you make of me no matter what i do i could be a saint you still can make fun of me yes because i got that much money nobody that's just the way it goes yeah and you're I mean, you want to talk about someone out there.

[552] Those fucking people are out there.

[553] They got everything out there.

[554] Yeah, they're living like performance art. They're like living in a giant glass house on a pedestal in the middle of the city.

[555] That's where all that comes from, though, is like, you know, the fake asses and all that.

[556] You got to keep the spectacle alive almost, you know what I mean?

[557] If it's not a spectacle, it's not interesting.

[558] Yeah, they have to keep changing things.

[559] If it's not an absolute spectacle to the vision, your brain will catch on to my favorite word, fuckery.

[560] Yeah, I love that word too.

[561] It's my favorite word.

[562] It's a great word.

[563] It really is like a great, first of all, it's a word that you can get away with no matter what.

[564] It's not a word that eventually you won't be able to use anymore.

[565] Fuckery is just going to be around forever.

[566] And it is perfect for like nonsense.

[567] Yeah.

[568] I've been my English friends for years, we're saying fuckery.

[569] That's the thing.

[570] It's only recently catching on over here.

[571] Yeah.

[572] Really?

[573] No, last, like, you know, 10 years.

[574] I'm talking about since the 80s I've been hearing fuckery.

[575] I'm trying to figure out when I started using it.

[576] I started using in regards to martial arts, like fake martial arts.

[577] I use it in all kinds of cities.

[578] You can use it lightheartedly.

[579] You can use it seriously.

[580] Yeah, it works with everything.

[581] It's as versatile as just plain old fuck.

[582] Yeah, yeah.

[583] Steve Maxwell, that's where I got it from.

[584] I started using it with Steve Maxwell.

[585] He was describing some fake martial arts talking about because, you know, Steve's a black belt in jujitsu, and he's like, it's a lot of fuckery.

[586] And I was like, ooh, I like that word.

[587] It's a great word.

[588] That's a word.

[589] I'm going to keep using.

[590] I just looked it up to see if there's a good definition, and it says it's also a definition for another word for a brothel.

[591] A fuckery?

[592] A fuckery.

[593] Holy shit.

[594] Dude, you just like open my brain in a new way.

[595] Of course.

[596] That's like, duh.

[597] Of course they call it a fuckery.

[598] Are you going to the fuckery?

[599] That's amazing.

[600] Yeah, like a brewery, a fuckery.

[601] Oh, that's too good.

[602] Oh, that's hilarious.

[603] That never would have dawned on me if you had you now just told me. A brothel, vulgar slang, uncountable sexual intercourse.

[604] It means that which is fucked up.

[605] That which is fucked up is.

[606] That which is fucked up is a hilarious definition.

[607] It is a fuckery.

[608] That is hilarious.

[609] A fuckery.

[610] I had only used it in its verb form It's actually a noun There is a fuckery A fuckery, a place A place where you can go get your fuckery are Dude, that's brand new That's like literally brand new The translation in the French I guess is what it says Oh French They figured out of a lot of shit Have you ever been to Paris?

[611] Oh I love Paris Did you ever go to that place underneath It has all the skeletons?

[612] No I have not been to the catacombs A friends of mine have gone though Yeah I want to go Oh man, I want to go and see that.

[613] Yeah, you can get tours and all kinds of shit like that.

[614] What was that, the people that died in the plagues?

[615] Is that what it is?

[616] I think so.

[617] And they just buried them?

[618] Yeah, you know, the church, like, whoof, put them all in the catacombs.

[619] Do you know what one time Paris had a wolf problem and people were getting killed by wolves?

[620] In recent history?

[621] 1400s.

[622] Oh, okay.

[623] Look at that.

[624] Wow, look at those pictures, all those skulls.

[625] Yeah, there's a crazy story about the wolves of parents.

[626] I have been to a place that, whenever I see pictures.

[627] There's a place in, I want to say, what country is Prague?

[628] The Czech Republic.

[629] I think it's called Kuntna A -O -R -A.

[630] K -U -T -N -A -H -O -R -A.

[631] It's like a church that's built of like thousands of people's skeletons, man. It's crazy.

[632] Yeah, there it is, dude.

[633] That place is bananas, man. Did you go to that too?

[634] Oh, no, I've been there.

[635] I haven't been to the catacombs.

[636] I'm saying whenever I see pictures of the catacombs, but this place is like an entire church decorated.

[637] have like little dens of like places that like altars it's like thousands and thousands those are like vertebrae those spine oh no there's another one where it's like all spines whoa it's crazy that is bananas kutna aura and it's you know you can just go there and i think you pay like a couple or whatever euros and you can walk in there and i got tons of flicks in there it's weird when you go to those places and you realize these places are that like i was in italy and uh there was a church that I went to, and there was this glass floor.

[638] The church was over a thousand years old, and there's a glass floor that you walk on below the glass floor is the old church that the thousand -year -old church was built on.

[639] They have no idea how old the old church is.

[640] That's crazy.

[641] Which church was this?

[642] It's in Ravelo.

[643] It's at the top of, like, there's a bunch of cute little shops and little hotels and shit out there.

[644] And there's a small church there.

[645] Yeah, it's.

[646] The church that you could visit is more than a thousand years old.

[647] I put a picture on my Instagram of this crazy picture of what they thought a whale looked like.

[648] It was a story of, you know, who was the dude who got eaten by the whale in the Bible?

[649] Jonah.

[650] Jonah.

[651] Jonah in the whale.

[652] And it's like in a mosaic on the wall.

[653] But it's like what they thought a whale was.

[654] It's like, you know, before they had photos that some dude would, like, draw you a picture of some shit he saw like this is what a whale looks like, my friend.

[655] and then, you know, some other dude who never saw a whale would make a mosaic of this shit and put it on the wall.

[656] It's just so weird.

[657] We went to the place that got fucked up by the volcano to, Pompeii, yeah.

[658] I've been to Pompeii, yeah.

[659] That was fascinating, too.

[660] It's crazy.

[661] See people just instantly.

[662] 20 feet of ash, just covered in ash.

[663] Just, boom.

[664] Yeah.

[665] Just one minute, nothing, and then next minute, a little earthquake.

[666] And why you're there?

[667] You can see the volcano.

[668] It's right there.

[669] Still active, yeah?

[670] I don't know.

[671] I mean, I don't think it's had a real issue in a long time.

[672] Did you see if you find that Instagram picture of Jonah in the whale?

[673] That's scary shit.

[674] It's from July.

[675] Volcano.

[676] That's Hawaii.

[677] Everything going on there.

[678] Yeah.

[679] That's nutty, man. Just scary.

[680] Getting, like, I read a story of, like, somebody didn't touch the lava.

[681] They just got within, like, a couple inches of it and, like, burnt themselves?

[682] Like, melted their skin, like, off.

[683] Oh, yeah.

[684] Not even getting, like, actually hit by it.

[685] You get hit by it.

[686] Your shit's dissolving.

[687] Oh, you can cook on it.

[688] You can slap a steak on that bitch.

[689] It would dissolve.

[690] No, it wouldn't.

[691] It wouldn't.

[692] It's not the best conductor of heat.

[693] You know, you just slap a steak on that, sear it, flip it.

[694] They take one second.

[695] There was a, some crazy chef did this where they took molten iron and they poured it down this chute.

[696] And as it was going down the shoot, they slapped steaks on it.

[697] it it was like they were cooking on this hot molten iron that's crazy yeah people get bored wonder if it tasted any probably tastes like shit yeah probably ruined a good state like molten fucking whatever the fuck yeah like molten dirt did you see the video of uh the lava consuming that mustang did you see that video that was what just dissolved if you got payments and you just fucking damn man this car's killing me these payments are killing me just parked that bitch where that lava's coming in Hawaii watch it get melted set up a camera I can't imagine there's a lot of Mustangs over there either That probably is A lot of American cars over there They buy a lot of Toyotas Because they don't break Oh and they're small Yeah But it's also like You don't You know Everything has to get flown over there So you don't want anything to break Super expensive Yeah Everything Food housing Stuff is more expensive There than like The only other place that was comparable to me was Perth.

[698] Really?

[699] Well, because everything's so, it's like everything the same difference.

[700] It's the furthest, like, city, like, isolated by itself.

[701] In Australia?

[702] Yeah.

[703] And, in a lot, I think, maybe in the world, like, away from any other major city.

[704] That makes sense, right?

[705] Because Australia is as big as the United States.

[706] Yeah, and it's really the only major city on the West Coast that you hit, yeah.

[707] How big is it?

[708] How big is Perth?

[709] It's like a, I don't know how many people, but it's like a city, you know.

[710] Do you perform there a lot?

[711] Not a lot.

[712] probably almost 10 years since I've been Australia.

[713] I love Australia, but I do not love that fucking flight, baby.

[714] It's tough.

[715] Ooh, that's a rough flight.

[716] It takes a minute.

[717] They'll get over that shit.

[718] Yeah, you land and you're like Where am I?

[719] For a couple days.

[720] There it is.

[721] That's what they thought a whale looked like.

[722] Like, what the fuck is that, man?

[723] It's like a fish with a lionhead.

[724] Like, look, that's what they thought Joan and the whale looked like.

[725] That's hilarious.

[726] A thousand years ago.

[727] Strange, right?

[728] Like, dude was trying to make a run.

[729] For it, obviously.

[730] Look at them.

[731] I'm, I'm going to get the fuck away from this.

[732] That dude kind of looks like me. That's a little disturbing.

[733] Like, let me get out of here.

[734] Bald had a dude with a beard trying to get away from this lion fish with wings thing.

[735] But that's what they thought a whale was.

[736] Craziness.

[737] How, you know, just imagine what it was like living a thousand years ago when there was no pictures.

[738] Oh, is that the glass floor?

[739] Yeah, that's my feet right there.

[740] so you're in this church the church is a thousand years old and that go back to that last one jamie that one that's that's the glass floor and then you look down and they have this entirely different church underneath it that's way older they don't know how old it is been there forever could be several thousand years old the church is gorgeous though there's a lot of those churches and you've been to the vatican right yeah that's the mind fuck of all minefucks yeah that's crazy like st peter's basilica when you're walking around on that place, and you're just like, what?

[741] Like, who, how?

[742] How did people do this?

[743] It's crotarded, man. It's unbelievable.

[744] The whole Vatican just.

[745] No, no power saws.

[746] Nothing.

[747] No, no fucking cranes.

[748] Everything was like ladders and shit.

[749] And the paintings and the art, just insane.

[750] Stunning.

[751] Stunning.

[752] Billions of dollars were the art. And the whole area, the whole Vatican is essentially its own country.

[753] Yeah.

[754] So they can keep those kid fuckers over there, and they never have to export them.

[755] you know that's that's yeah yeah that's the darkest of the dark no argument here nobody can man they they'll try people get mad and look i get it i was a catholic for a little bit that's a dark dark institution there is no denying i mean they just they've just busted another group of priests in in uh pennsylvania molested more than a thousand kids yeah moving them around not charging them.

[756] Organized religion in general is the biggest mind control that's ever existed, you know, trying to control populations and what's the best way to make you believe a certain thing, you know what I mean?

[757] But there's better ones.

[758] There's some that you go Oh, for sure, for sure.

[759] What have the Baptists have done?

[760] What have they done it's so terrible?

[761] Oh, I don't know.

[762] There's no Baptist scandals like that, large scale scandals.

[763] Even the Mormons, like, they've had a few like dudes who wanted more than one bride.

[764] got greedy more than a few they have there's a whole like part of their thing that that's how they still live but and there's some sex sect s e c t's that uh branched off and got real real freaky on the scale that the catholic church has done things and it's unprecedented unprecedented completely yeah because they they actively shield these people from prosecution yeah and they keep it all in house i mean aren't people actually getting like like i've heard some things like Like they're going after, like, cardinals and shit, like, criminally.

[765] Well, that is why the Pope had to step down.

[766] That last Pope had to step down because they wanted to prosecute him for crimes against humanity.

[767] Oh, yeah, because he was the one of the dudes who orchestrated a lot of that stuff.

[768] Exactly.

[769] The guy right before the...

[770] He moved a guy who went on to molest 100 deaf children.

[771] Yeah, I remember reading stuff about that.

[772] It's dark, man. It's dark.

[773] And it's one of those things where people, you know...

[774] It's been a part of their family.

[775] It's been a part of their family's family.

[776] it's been a part of their history they go to church they pay their respects everything's okay they they don't want to hear it people don't want to hear it but it's over the old evidence is just so overwhelming there's so much so much awful shit that's attached to church i mean i think you know i just think again people like you're saying you get i was raised catholic i just by the time i was like i they did this thing called confirmation which is sort of like this a similar thing to what the time that you're becoming a man, you're making your own choices, an adult, because it wasn't just men, but by the time I did that and realized like, okay, okay, this is, there's not a lot of, you know, there's a little too much magic going on for me, you know what I mean?

[777] Like going on with this, like, I like just factual, knowledgeable things, you know, like if these people really existed, you know, and what were they really like?

[778] I'm not buying into the fact that anybody on this earth didn't take a shit, like I took a shit, you know what I mean?

[779] And we all take the same shits.

[780] It'd be nice if someone came up with a good religion, a real solid, locked down one.

[781] I mean, there is one.

[782] I mean, we all just would have to agree on it.

[783] How about just the golden rule?

[784] You know, I mean, that could basically be a religion in itself.

[785] The Church of Universal Law, you know, do unto others, as you would have them do under you.

[786] And you could hold corporations to that.

[787] You could be like, all right, we start, what's more powerful than 10 million people on a Facebook page that are, watching these corporations and the minute they say, hey, you're not giving back to the community or taking care of the people that are taking care of you.

[788] That's easily done, but it takes work.

[789] It's a good point.

[790] It's easily done.

[791] If everybody in the world just really treated the next person like they wanted to be treated themselves, there you go.

[792] And did it as a law, right?

[793] And then we help people accountable to that.

[794] Yeah.

[795] You are not responding to the universal law, the universal golden rule.

[796] You know, it sounds super simple, but I mean, it took a lot.

[797] of work but it's the principle is simple right and all the other stuff like all other forms of commerce and everything else would still fall under that just like you could do whatever you want as long as you're treating people kindly exactly like ideally commerce and capitalism all that stuff should be real simple like you have a great cd you want to sell it you want 20 bucks for it somebody gives you 20 bucks they're happy you're happy that should be commerce right yeah it should be you sell something people buy it everybody's good but then you get a little greedy you know like if we can figure out a way to corner this market and keep other people from selling this or selling that or we got to stop people from growing this because if they grow this and sell that you're not doing what's best for you're not doing what you would want them to do to you exactly so it's you're breaking the law violation of the golden rule if if you know that's what I've thought about it obviously before like hey man what would be you know and I'm then like yeah that'd be a really cool thing to do you know That would be the way.

[798] You know, somebody with enough charisma, you know, could pull it off, you know, get people to get behind it.

[799] That's really all it would take is people getting behind it.

[800] Yeah, but the problem is there's so many people that just, we're seeing this with politics, right?

[801] Like I'm fascinated by these Kavanaugh hearings.

[802] Like I watched little clips of it before I just have to tune out and talk about fuckery.

[803] Talk about fuckery.

[804] I mean, I don't know what that dude did or what he didn't do, but I think what's happening is more than that.

[805] what's happening is first of all he's involved with uh he was a big part of the patriot act he was you know he's involved in some some issues that a lot of people are very concerned with in terms of like how his position is stance on privacy and on rights and absolutely yeah there's more to it than just did you fuck with someone in high school did you sexually assault someone did you do that when you're 18 did you do you remember like there's more to it than that there's They're just like, they don't want that guy in there.

[806] And then you're seeing all the people that want to pretend that he's the best guy ever and all the people.

[807] It's craziness, man. It's fascinating.

[808] It's really fascinating.

[809] It's fascinating to watch because it's essentially like a less, like the Clarence Thomas hearings from, was it like the 1980s, I believe.

[810] Clarence Thomas, I feel like that was late 80s, early 90s.

[811] Yeah, somewhere around there.

[812] Clarence Thomas, that was like with Anita Hill.

[813] Where he had sexually harassed her.

[814] They were working together, and she came out.

[815] The whole pubic hairs on the whatever, Coke or something.

[816] Do you know that he's now the longest running member of the Supreme Court?

[817] He's now been in the Supreme Court longer, I think.

[818] I've read that.

[819] Check, make sure that's true.

[820] Isn't Ruth Gator Ginsburg?

[821] How does she be on there on her?

[822] Longest surfing 26 years as of October 4th.

[823] It will be.

[824] Oh, wow.

[825] Yeah.

[826] Crazy.

[827] Yeah, so it didn't work.

[828] Nita's hell's out.

[829] there living with the memory of pubic airs on coke you know and a movie now an HBO movie not too long ago oh yeah did you watch it I saw it was it was it okay it was a pretty good movie it was just you know we live through it so it's like it's like whenever I see movies about like the OJ trial or something I'm like no I saw that we saw it live right for like 700 days you know I'm always fascinated by those movies because of creative license like if you do a movie on Richard Nixon right what do you sure he said that or even crazy you do a movie movie on Lincoln bitch you don't know what the fuck he said you can't be like possibly unless he wrote it down yeah you're you're having him say a bunch of shit day to day talking to his wife and kids you don't know what the fuck he said it's pretty funny you're just making this up this is weird that we're allowed to do that you're allowed to just put some words in george washington's mouth like you don't know what the fuck george washington said you know have you seen this movie coming out yes christian bail is dick cheney and dude it looks amazing steve carrolls donald Rumsfeld.

[830] Christian Bale is a fucking bad motherfucker.

[831] His acting as Dick Cheney is off the charts.

[832] I mean, he does the voice, he got fat for it, everything.

[833] That's him.

[834] Whoa.

[835] Dude.

[836] There's the video of, first of all, him and Sam Rockwell is George Bush.

[837] He's amazing, too.

[838] Sam Rockwell is one of the most underappreciated actors.

[839] What's the name of this movie?

[840] Vice.

[841] Vice.

[842] It's amazing.

[843] Amazing dude.

[844] Sam Rockwell nails it as George.

[845] Here, play the trailer.

[846] Would they pull us?

[847] It's too new.

[848] Yeah.

[849] I don't let you guys see it.

[850] Um, let me turn it up.

[851] A large company.

[852] If you, folks who are listening to this on YouTube, we can't play this for you.

[853] But I mean, that's weird.

[854] They wouldn't want you to like play their trailer.

[855] Well, they want everybody to go to their trailer.

[856] True.

[857] Oh, yeah, it's streams.

[858] That shit makes, yeah.

[859] You're right.

[860] It's just so good.

[861] He just does an amazing job of the voice, the mannerisms, and so does Sam Rockwell.

[862] Yeah, well, they're both incredible actors.

[863] Do you ever see Sam Rockwell in that movie, Moon?

[864] Is it The Moon or Moon?

[865] I'm not sure.

[866] It's a movie where he is the only person in the movie.

[867] The entire movie is him.

[868] I don't want to spoil alert it, but it has to do with cloning.

[869] And it's him on the moon, like him, him, or him, in.

[870] space it's fucking amazing it's an amazing movie i love where he was uh chuck barris yes that was an amazing movie dude he's a beast this guy is a fucking incredible actor and he just doesn't get enough credit i met he's i think he might be married to her now but he was or maybe they're still dating but he was dating leslie bibb when uh i did a movie with her and um i got a chance to meet him and i was a little bit starstruck i'm a big giant fan of that guy.

[871] But he's one of those guys that I feel like I want to say, like, dude, you're fucking amazing.

[872] Like, I don't know if anybody's telling you because you're fucking amazing.

[873] Because it's like, you know, you hear about the great actors.

[874] You hear Daniel Day Lewis.

[875] You hear Gary Oldman.

[876] You know, you hear Christian Bale.

[877] You hear the great actors.

[878] Fay Dunaway, Sigourney Weevner.

[879] You don't hear about Sam Rockwell.

[880] Why not, Jamie?

[881] Why not, God damn it?

[882] Maybe you will after this movie.

[883] Maybe.

[884] I feel like he's never been nominated for anything Probably was Probably was for Moon You got to just nominated A few things One that just came out last year The three billboards Oh yeah that's what I was thinking I just remember hearing about him He was getting you know He's just one of them dudes too Like when you're that good of an actor You blend into these movies so good It's not Sam Walkwell You know what I mean Like you And that's almost a compliment to the dude Now should he be more of the leading guy and doing those big roles yeah i agree he's an amazing actor but he's gotten he's done some really big things man he's just he's one of them dudes it just blends too good you know who's another one like that vigo mortensen yes dude like he everything he's in you just lose it and he's in it like he's that guy yeah yeah that uh the the the one where he was the eastern promises yes that was a good one the russian mob movie yes and then what the year of violence that he did that was a good one yeah yeah the road freaked me out i had turned it off when he was teaching his son how to shoot himself in the mouth I was like done we're good I don't need to watch this the book that book is fucking crazy that's what I heard yeah I heard the book's too crazy dark man like that's that's that it's one of the things like it's like it's a taste that stays with you a little too long you know he wanted to go away yeah there's a few of those movies that are just so depressing when you leave you're like what did I do like I don't want to be depressed I know that it was good I know you nailed it I know you you dragged my emotions through the mud once on tour i fucking it was like back when you got deep when the every when the tower records and those things were still around like on tuesdays the movies and the records would all come out so we're on tour we would stop and buy a bunch of shit for the bus by records and this i bought a bunch of movies and i threw on magnolia had just come out i watched that and i was like oh wow that was fucking fucked up and then without looking i just grabbed the next movie and put it in and it was titus and i don't know if you're aware it'll be like hip to this like one of the darkest fucking shakespeare fucking plays ever about this I mean you go if you ain't seen it when you got the wherewithal to sit through some real fucking darkness Anthony Hopkins is fucking insane in this movie as Titus Antonicus.

[885] It's fucking dark so I watched these two movies back to back and for two weeks Joe I can't shake the like just depressing like oh my God there's no happy endings anywhere the world's audience.

[886] From then on I'll only watch comedy and fucking like Pixar movies and old Warner brother cartoons out there on the road man. Is he eating dinner while people are hanging in front of them?

[887] Do you want to know?

[888] You're never going to watch this, right?

[889] He's about to cut them up and make dinner out of them and serve them to his own, and to their families.

[890] Like it's dark, man. It's really dark.

[891] It's one of the dark.

[892] It is the darkest Shakespeare like thing I've ever read or seen.

[893] Okay.

[894] That's enough.

[895] And that was right after Magnolia.

[896] I watched that.

[897] Man, a double whammy.

[898] Double whammy, dude.

[899] Oh, it was horrible.

[900] Remember that movie, 21 grams?

[901] Yeah.

[902] That movie swore me off at depressing movies.

[903] After that movie was over, I left the theater.

[904] I was like, why did I do that to myself?

[905] Yeah.

[906] I was in such a good mood.

[907] Yeah, who wants to leave a place with that feeling?

[908] Doesn't life give you that enough?

[909] I was all happy.

[910] I was all happy, feeling good.

[911] I walked into that movie, and I left going, what in the actual fuck?

[912] What am I doing here?

[913] as DJ Callie would say you played yourself played myself yeah other people said it before him but he's like known for it it's funny how that happens right or dude just says something just right and then everybody just connects it to him he had a string of them he had a bunch of his little you know in a meeting you know he's got the new deal alerts he's a he's a bastion of these little sayings that just people catch on to he's got a lot of good things going for him.

[914] He's unthreatening looking because he's kind of a big chubby guy.

[915] People like him because of that.

[916] You know, there's a lot of good things going.

[917] Obviously like shiny flashing thing.

[918] Yeah.

[919] You know what I mean?

[920] A lot of energy.

[921] Like shiny flashy shit that a lot of other people like.

[922] Yeah.

[923] Yeah.

[924] And he can afford it.

[925] Yeah.

[926] That's nice.

[927] Hashtag balling.

[928] Yeah.

[929] Got to do it.

[930] Yeah.

[931] I guess so.

[932] It's part of that lifestyle.

[933] That's a crazy lifestyle.

[934] Kanye's a part of that lifestyle too, right?

[935] But in a weird way.

[936] He's a weird part of that lifestyle he's never been of that jewelry scene he's not really big on i mean like but he's big on design and you know ferrari's and Lamborghinis and beautiful houses and show like that aware of like what he i know yeah design yeah i know it's i know just from what i know of him that he longs to be ralph lauren like that's really his you know probably like if you said who is your biggest influencer who would you want to be ralph lauren yeah that's kind of hilarious But he just loves design, right?

[937] Loves clothes.

[938] I guess.

[939] Yeah, I mean, why not?

[940] Somebody's got to.

[941] I mean, he, you know, a lot of that stuff he was doing was looking like homeless people's clothing, you know, too.

[942] It was like derelict right out of fucking Soolander.

[943] Did you see that one video, picture that Jamie showed me?

[944] He was walking around with slides, easy slides on, but there were like four sizes too small.

[945] It didn't make any sense.

[946] His like heels hanging off the back of them.

[947] Like, what?

[948] That's the way he designed him.

[949] Exactly.

[950] That's like he's probably trying to push a new thing.

[951] Yeah, he's like, here.

[952] Tiny, yeezy slides.

[953] Too small for your feet.

[954] Two small, yezy slides.

[955] There you go.

[956] Yeah, that's the new look.

[957] Like, you know, if you're crazy, you might think things like that.

[958] It's crazy to me because there's an era of his career that I look at, and I'm like, wow, man, there's a lot of genius shit he was doing musically.

[959] Oh, yeah.

[960] A lot of records he was doing.

[961] And then I don't know what it is, but to me, to me now, and I don't say this really in a judgmental way, but he's a professional troll now.

[962] Just like that's the most successful people in the entertainment business now if you're not an amazing actor or super amazing, you know, whatever is like just keeping people trolling.

[963] I remember he literally dropped a song like at some point like eight months ago where that was like poop -a -scoop -a -poop -de -boop -a -boop -a -boop -a -boop -stcoop -ty -whoop.

[964] And that was the song.

[965] It lasted that long.

[966] Yeah, Jamie came and played for me or he told me the lyrics and I told him to shut the fuck up.

[967] No, but it's like, it's again.

[968] It's the spectacle.

[969] I get that away for me, Jamie.

[970] You stop.

[971] putting this evil in my head it's the spectacle like i mean i mean i made this album here that's music you know i mean this is music like a lot of people don't give it fuck anymore well you're not that guy you've never been a i need publicity guy well i never here's what it is here's what that is it's like people like to fucking speculate about what i do or my career you know i mean i'm written a few songs in this life that i could go somewhere and sit out and just sit on a fucking stump and eat food for the rest of my life and never worry you know i mean i could feed my family and all that off few songs.

[972] I make music because I love making music, you know, and of course you want people to listen, you want fucking the more people to, you know, you want people, you want, I'm not saying I don't want fame or all that, but I don't, I'm not, I'm not, again, one of the first things, the first time I ever came on your podcast was like, I like going to Ralph's and sitting at the olive bar and fucking getting my olives while my songs playing on the radio and the guy standing right next to me had no fucking idea.

[973] I don't mind that at all.

[974] That doesn't bother me. I love it.

[975] Yeah, you're not a need kind of a guy and some people are and that's sort of part of their business like this whole Kanye Donald Trump thing I just I wonder if that's trolling but I also wonder if what we're talking about earlier about car accidents and brain damage I wonder if that's all part of it too but also the reason I I I say it's trolling is because there's likes and stuff when you get to Kardashian Kanye West levels of and I'm sure you know this just You have four fucking million Instagram followers.

[976] I didn't start Instagram until you told me to.

[977] I know that.

[978] But what I'm saying is like, you could monetize that shit really easily, those four million people.

[979] You're not selling that shit out.

[980] These people, they are definitely monetizing that shit.

[981] When Kim Kardashian gets on there, she doesn't give you a commercial, but she'll tell you, oh, I'm just using this new cream on my shit.

[982] You know what I mean?

[983] Here, you know, somebody paid her 100, fucking 50 grand for that post, you know?

[984] It's like, that's so, The more eyes, the better.

[985] That's really what they're monetizing.

[986] If I had 10 million people on my Instagram, I could sell fucking posts.

[987] The real problem with that is people don't believe them.

[988] But their eyes are still on it.

[989] If I say I like something, it's because I like it.

[990] And this is people that cues me and having ads.

[991] I've never had a single ad on my Instagram.

[992] If I tell people about a product and people like, what do you do?

[993] Are you getting paid for this?

[994] Like, nope, nope, I just like it.

[995] yeah sharing something i thought you might think is cool this is a cool i've done it a few times but i usually say hey i'm not getting fucking paid i'm just telling you yeah i do now i say it is not i like this yeah you know i mean plus i ain't got enough instagram followers to get paid i bet you do i got like 70 000 that's all you need jami was saying you need 70 000 that's the exact number first of us i don't you know i don't yeah i know you don't give a fuck but if you did if you were a chick with a fake butt you might be able to get a little i might have four million followers if i was a chick with a fake butt Yeah, you might, right?

[996] You might have 20.

[997] Look at this.

[998] Kim Kardashian's got 118 million followers.

[999] It's just, wow.

[1000] Good googly, mugly.

[1001] Okay, and let's say, what do they say?

[1002] If you're actually good at social media, maybe 10 % of your audience engages you?

[1003] So that's still 10 million people that will engage with her.

[1004] That's a lot of fuck people, son.

[1005] I believe, I threw that number out there just kind of.

[1006] That sounds about right.

[1007] Yeah.

[1008] A lot of goddamn people.

[1009] Woo!

[1010] Yeah, it's a weird business man. That's famous now.

[1011] Like when we were young, famous was, you know, if you're on TV or the radio, you know, or, you know, if you did something in life, wrote a book, wrote a play or a movie, you know what I mean?

[1012] Invented the plane, you know, and that's what got you famous.

[1013] Now you just got to keep eyes on you doing fucked up shit.

[1014] I was thinking about that today while I was watching Gladiator because when I was watching that movie, I was thinking, In the Roman times, there was no accountability, like for emperors.

[1015] You could do all kinds of fucked up shit, and no one could do anything about it.

[1016] They either killed you eventually or you got away with it for a long period of time.

[1017] But today, you know, like, there's so much accountability.

[1018] People find out what awful things you've done.

[1019] They find out you've stolen money or had people killed or, you know, took over this or dominated that like to be a like to be a dictator like a Kim Jong -un like someone someone along those lines today you have to keep those people locked up like and he's barely keeping that together they barely have an internet it amazed me how they can like you know like there's not a whole scene there of people with the internet like sneaking it in and you know what they did everybody rats and everybody else there they have like a whole system of ratin on people they have a culture of rats And they believe they're leaders of God or something of that name.

[1020] They just don't want to die, man. They're scared and they're hungry and they don't have any power.

[1021] They don't have any energy because they're eating just rice and fucking starving to death.

[1022] I don't even imagine it.

[1023] When they catch those dudes that sneak across the border, you know, that make a run for it, when they get them and bring them to hospitals and patch them up and shit, they find all these crazy parasites in them, massive malnutrition.

[1024] And these are soldiers, like North Korean soldiers.

[1025] They're just all fucked up.

[1026] And this, but that's a window into time.

[1027] Like, if you went back into the Roman days, that's how everybody was rocking it.

[1028] They were all dominating their people and using an iron fist and keep, you know, keep these generals well fed and keep the army well fed and use it to dominate the civilians.

[1029] And, whew.

[1030] I mean, I know gladiator is just a movie.

[1031] It's just fake and, you know, fun.

[1032] But still, you've got to wonder, like that, how close was that to life back then?

[1033] And how bad did it smell?

[1034] Oh, how bad.

[1035] I mean, like, there used to be a show on HBO called Rome, like, where they had, like, and they had this one scene.

[1036] I remember it, like, where they were all in, like, a public toilet.

[1037] A shittery?

[1038] Shittery.

[1039] Sure, shittery.

[1040] And they handed them, like, what at the time was, I guess, the toilet paper, which was, like, you know, calf skin rags or something.

[1041] And they fucking, like, white your ass and they walk out and throw it in a pile.

[1042] It's like, how could that have smelled?

[1043] If that's accurate.

[1044] If that's accurate.

[1045] You know what I mean?

[1046] Well, that looks pretty accurate.

[1047] Yeah, there it is.

[1048] Roman public toilets.

[1049] Oh.

[1050] And they would go into like a tube, and that tube would go right down the street.

[1051] Imagine how the whole city smelled, man. Like, shit.

[1052] Well, that's one of the reasons why all those people got sick.

[1053] Like, when a disease would spread through the city, I mean, there was no sanitation.

[1054] It was terrible.

[1055] But, I mean, how did they, they didn't have, like, flushable things, right?

[1056] Nothing flushed.

[1057] I mean, they had developed aqueducts, so they just had a system of flowing water.

[1058] water but it wasn't pressurized or anything so i just had to pick it up one of the things that was cool about pompey was they had a sauna they had figured out how to boil water and then they had the water would go through the floor and the walls they had like like double spaced walls so they had one outside wall and an inside wall and the heat would go through and it would go like through and so you could go into this sauna and you just like a regular sauna here and it'd be hot as fuck in there yeah There's Pompeisana.

[1059] That's it.

[1060] Like, they figured out how to make things pretty cool for what they had.

[1061] But fuck living back there.

[1062] But meanwhile, tell me people aren't going to think like that a thousand years from now about us.

[1063] Those dummies, shitting into a ceramic bowl and then hitting the water to flush it away.

[1064] Idiots.

[1065] I can't imagine what's going to be like.

[1066] Dude, we installed these toilets here that shoot hot water up your butt.

[1067] You know those?

[1068] Up or just cleaning it?

[1069] No, they can go right in the hole.

[1070] Wow.

[1071] It shoots right in that.

[1072] You got to be careful.

[1073] It feels like you have to take a shit because it gets up in there and you're like, oh, I have to shit again.

[1074] But no, it's just the water's literally getting through the door.

[1075] But it cleans your butthole so nice.

[1076] And after you have one of those, you're like, why would I ever use a regular toilet?

[1077] Yeah.

[1078] I remember the first time I experienced one of those was like in the 90s in Japan.

[1079] Yes, Japan.

[1080] Yeah, that's why I experienced it too.

[1081] Yeah, but for me, it was just a few years ago.

[1082] But Jamie says he holds his shit.

[1083] Is that correct?

[1084] Well preferred versus my home toilet.

[1085] Like why would, why shit it?

[1086] home.

[1087] If you like kind of have to ship, be like, I could keep this one at bay for a little bit.

[1088] Honestly, I mean, like in Europe, a bidet is a normal thing in a hotel room.

[1089] It's not here as much.

[1090] It's not as good, though.

[1091] I have a bidet in my house.

[1092] I never used it once.

[1093] It's a magazine rack.

[1094] I throw magazines there.

[1095] Wash your hands.

[1096] It's just, yeah, it's just weird.

[1097] It's weird.

[1098] It just doesn't work as good.

[1099] Yeah, and I think it's more for women.

[1100] Like, no, you know, the bidet.

[1101] It's a cuder cleanser.

[1102] Yeah, kind of.

[1103] But here's something funny.

[1104] He's like, I just did this tour of Europe.

[1105] And we started noticing like, and I'm not going to name countries, like, you know, because I have fans and all of them.

[1106] I don't want them to get upset.

[1107] But we noticed there's a different of some countries you can, you get washcloths in your bathroom.

[1108] In some countries you don't.

[1109] And me and my band, you know, came to the conclusion that from now on, whenever we come to these countries where you don't get the wash cloths in your hotel room, we're not going to shake hands.

[1110] with people anymore because why don't you have washcloths in the bathroom I don't get it yeah what do you wash your hands with bro no you can wash your hands like this what are you washing your arse with man you shoving your hand crack up there you know what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing I don't mind if you wash your face with your hands or your hands or your hands but I'm not if I'm I can't find a washcloth in your city dude I went to Thailand this summer they have garden hoses attached to the toilet they don't fuck around with all that hot spicy food They know it's going to come out messy.

[1111] So they give you a goddamn garden hose to clean your asshole with.

[1112] Where is this?

[1113] Thailand.

[1114] In Thailand.

[1115] Everywhere.

[1116] Even the airport.

[1117] Went to the toilet at the airport.

[1118] Right next to the shit box was this goddamn garden hose.

[1119] I mean like one you would wash the car with.

[1120] Like the pistol grip one?

[1121] Yeah.

[1122] Like shh.

[1123] And just, woo -hoo.

[1124] Just get that fucker back there.

[1125] And who -woo.

[1126] There it is right there.

[1127] Garden hose.

[1128] Bum gun.

[1129] Bum -gun, they call it.

[1130] A bum gun.

[1131] Wow.

[1132] Toilet hose in Thailand.

[1133] Keep yourself clean.

[1134] with a squirt of water yeah a squirt that that shit that shit could move a boat across a dock first things first yeah wow the direction our conversation's taken today test the water pressure before you use it the British called the toilet hose the bum gun for a good reason the nozzle the end of the hose is shaped a bit like a gun with a trigger that you press to release the water yeah wow yeah they don't fuck around in Thailand I've been in Thailand obviously it's beautiful there people are so nice it's one of the like like friendliest places I've ever been in my life, like universally friendly.

[1135] And everybody looks at you and they all do this.

[1136] They make their hands like a lotus flower.

[1137] That's what they do.

[1138] They don't shake hands a lot.

[1139] They just touch their hands together and give you like a little bow.

[1140] Is there a washcloth?

[1141] They just, it's the, their hands are tired from holding onto that hose, squeezing that bum gun.

[1142] Something.

[1143] But the food there is fucking amazing.

[1144] If you like Thai food, man, you learn like.

[1145] from like the way they cook it in the motherland you know with all those fresh ingredients i do love tai food i love tai food are you a spicy guy do you like spicy oh i've been sans being in thailand uh this spot i was in a place in melbourne australia we talked about earlier the hottest Thai food i ever had in my life like so hot you're sweating and you can't stop eating it because the minute you stop eating it you're going to catch fire have you ever been to exotic tie over on Ventura and Woodland Hills?

[1146] I feel like I have.

[1147] Ooh, super legit.

[1148] Exotic tie.

[1149] A bunch of Thai people running, super nice people.

[1150] Food is jamming.

[1151] There's a spot right here close, not far from the general area.

[1152] Jasmine tie.

[1153] Oh, yeah.

[1154] Yeah, that's a good one too.

[1155] There's a bunch of good Thai restaurants in L .A. You've been to, what's that place on sunset that's open real late?

[1156] Oh, right there next toy.

[1157] Toy.

[1158] Toy tie.

[1159] Toy tie's great too, man. That's a great late night spot, like legit Thai food.

[1160] You get it at 2 o 'clock in the morning.

[1161] You know, after I said, the Kali ice tea.

[1162] The Thai iced teas are amazing.

[1163] That shit's terrible for your diabetists, though.

[1164] There's like 180 grams of sugar.

[1165] But it's so delicious.

[1166] Once a year.

[1167] So delicious.

[1168] But honestly, you know, I used to drink so much Coke.

[1169] That's another.

[1170] When we talked about weight, that's the first thing I got rid of, man, was drinking Coca -Cola.

[1171] Weight falls off.

[1172] About 20 pounds of the 30.

[1173] that crazy?

[1174] 35 now.

[1175] Just falls off.

[1176] Yeah, yeah.

[1177] You realize, like, what was I doing?

[1178] Yeah.

[1179] What was I doing to myself?

[1180] That and just a little bit of cardio, and I was like, every other day, I was like, whoa, this is crazy.

[1181] I just lost, like, I said 35 now because I dropped five pounds out on the road that I didn't even realize, not even weren't trying.

[1182] Wow.

[1183] Just continuing to eat healthy.

[1184] And I think that food in Europe is a lot cleaner, just in general.

[1185] Yep, yep.

[1186] Well, they don't have a lot of our, first of all, their wheat is like what you would call heirloom wheat.

[1187] They don't have a lot of the complex glutons in our wheat that make it a little bit more difficult to process.

[1188] This is all a real thing.

[1189] People think there's some sort of, like, people are exaggerating the effects of gluten and gluten intolerance.

[1190] The issue is that at one point in time, bread was different.

[1191] It was just, wheat was different, but it was a lower yield.

[1192] So say, like, if you had an acre and you were planting wheat on it, You would get way less wheat out of that acre than you would with the newer wheat.

[1193] And the newer wheat is just more complex gluten's in it.

[1194] And you get a higher yield.

[1195] And so that's what they're looking for.

[1196] And but when you eat it, it's just harder to digest.

[1197] And it's just, when I was in Italy, man, everybody's skinny, okay?

[1198] They're all eating bread.

[1199] They're all eating pasta.

[1200] They're all eating pizza.

[1201] They're all skinny.

[1202] At the most, these dudes who don't work out, at the most, get like a little paunch.

[1203] The most, they're drinking wine every night.

[1204] They got a little paunch.

[1205] They also walk a lot more than that.

[1206] They also ride bikes a lot more than us.

[1207] All those things.

[1208] Spent a lot of time in Holland this last trip, and I couldn't find a fat person.

[1209] They're just biking everywhere.

[1210] They're just biking everywhere, and they're eating cheese and bread all day.

[1211] Like literally every meal, like cheese and bread with your meal?

[1212] But they must be pissed at weeds legal everywhere else because people used to go to Holland specifically.

[1213] Well, I have friends that own coffee shops over there, and they're like, yeah, there's a lot of fuck.

[1214] What's going on right now is there's, if I understood what he was telling me right, Canada, is investing shit tons of money with the government over there to like corporate like start growing corporate weed and they're gonna phase out the locals and take it over like they're gonna phase out the coffee shop because they're it weed isn't legal in Holland it's decriminalized if you own a weed shop you can only have let's say 500 grams of time in the shop legally all right if you have a good shop you're moving that you know in a fucking afternoon.

[1215] Right.

[1216] So, and getting, bringing weed to your shop is illegal.

[1217] Like, it's like, it's a smuggling operation.

[1218] So it has to be in there.

[1219] And once it's in there, it's okay.

[1220] Once it's in there, you can sell it.

[1221] But getting it to your spot is the problem.

[1222] It's fucking illegal to move that much weed.

[1223] It's fucked up.

[1224] Like, these guys, I have a couple guys.

[1225] I own a couple coffee shops and they're just like, it's fuckery, man. You know, it's like a constant, it's like half a criminal operation in there running.

[1226] And it used to be that you get.

[1227] mushrooms.

[1228] You used to be able to get mushrooms.

[1229] You used to be able to get like a bunch of shit.

[1230] And now you can't get mushrooms anymore.

[1231] Not like hard like narcotics like coke or anything like that, but anything natural like mushrooms, you could get acid when I was first and there.

[1232] I don't know if that was legal because I was really young.

[1233] I just Well, Holland's just a wild ass place.

[1234] I mean, that is the spot where like some of the best kickboxing ever came from.

[1235] It's weird.

[1236] One little spot in Europe and they created Ramon Decker's Rob Kamen, Ernesto, who?

[1237] boost, like, some of the greatest kickboxes of all time out of this one spot.

[1238] Which gyms everywhere.

[1239] Everywhere you go, you see them like a gym.

[1240] It's amazing.

[1241] Yeah.

[1242] I mean, it's just amazing that this one place became a hotbed for a elite, high -level kickboxing.

[1243] Like, football and kickboxing are probably the top two things.

[1244] I mean, they literally have created some of the all -time greatest kickboxers.

[1245] And it's not a big country.

[1246] It's really, and some of the greatest kickboxing coaches as well.

[1247] well.

[1248] It's amazing.

[1249] It's really unusual, really unusual that that happened there.

[1250] And it's hard to describe why.

[1251] Like, no one really...

[1252] It'd be an interesting, like, documentary, so I'll figure out the roots of that.

[1253] Somebody went to Thailand.

[1254] You know, somebody brought it back from Thailand and switched it up and put their own little spin on it.

[1255] Yeah, and a few guys went over to Thailand and fuck some ties up, too.

[1256] Because what they had done is they incorporated a lot of Western boxing, like Ramon Decker's in particular, was one of the greats.

[1257] And what he...

[1258] did was he was a small guy like the same size as the ties which was unusual because a lot of the people from amsterdam were big people it's one of those places where i think the average height for a person in the amsterdam is like six feet tall yeah so it's an unusually tall place viking yeah yeah yeah some fucking viking dna i was watching that show for a while vikings i got deep into that show that show was pretty dark but mrs rogan got tired to seeing people get sorted up slashed to pieces.

[1259] She got poured with it.

[1260] It was pretty dark.

[1261] People just getting fucked up with arrows and cut open and it's the whole show.

[1262] They're always going to war.

[1263] But that's what they did.

[1264] They're Vikings.

[1265] Yeah.

[1266] And they took a lot of mushrooms too.

[1267] Pillage, I believe, is a Viking way of life.

[1268] If you could go back in one time to, like, if you had like a time machine, you'd go back and watch one time in history, what do you think you would go to see?

[1269] You'd go to see, like, how people live.

[1270] You'd go to see, like, how people lived?

[1271] Well, being very smell sensitive, it wouldn't be that far back.

[1272] I'd probably want to go.

[1273] No, that's not true.

[1274] I'd probably like, you know, King Arthur era.

[1275] Yeah, like that kind of thing.

[1276] I was heavy dungeons and dragons kid, you know what I mean?

[1277] Maybe go go see if there's anything to any of that dragon shit, you know what?

[1278] Or the Goldie Grail, you know what I mean?

[1279] Any of that dragon shit.

[1280] Yeah.

[1281] I wonder what that was all based on.

[1282] Like, why are there so many dragons?

[1283] in folklore, in Chinese folklore, in European folklore.

[1284] There's so many unrelated dragons.

[1285] Well, I mean, you know, there's people that have, you know, I watch a lot of ancient aliens, so they'll always have an explanation.

[1286] My man with the hair.

[1287] George O'Suclos.

[1288] George's is a podcast a long time ago.

[1289] I love that guy, dude.

[1290] He's my favorite dude on that show, man. He's a good dude.

[1291] I don't necessarily agree with everything they say.

[1292] everything but that's there's hey i mean there's merit to some of it man there's that show is a show you watch with your boys and like one o 'clock in the morning you get baked and everybody laughs you ever watched the vice version where like uh action bronz and all the guys are getting ripped and like talking about the show it's like just complete fucking nonsense but it's if you're high it's fucking fun to watch he came on the podcast i never seen a dude smoke more wheat in my life he smoked by himself at least six blunts during the podcast while that dude dad I'm so hard, man. I don't think the weed really fucks with him anymore, man. I can think it takes that much weed.

[1293] He just kept going.

[1294] And I got paranoid just watching him.

[1295] I'm like, oh, I mean, I smoked a little bit with him.

[1296] But, I mean, I got to keep this ship on the water.

[1297] Exactly.

[1298] You got to let me keep my hands on the wheel, sir.

[1299] Like, he just kept going.

[1300] We took a photo of the ashtray after it was over.

[1301] It was preposterous.

[1302] I was like, look at that.

[1303] That's one show.

[1304] He's a crazy guy, man. Fun dude, though.

[1305] No, he's a good guy.

[1306] I love that fuck.

[1307] That's delicious.

[1308] That show?

[1309] That's a great show.

[1310] He's, you know, with Alchemist is a good friend of mine.

[1311] I've known him since he's young, so they're good buddies.

[1312] I've met him.

[1313] I've hung out with him a few times.

[1314] He's a really fun guy, man. It's a unique idea for a show because, you know, Action Bronson used to be a chef.

[1315] Yeah.

[1316] Yeah, so seeing him, like, interact with food and shows, like, he really knows about food.

[1317] He really understands food.

[1318] Yeah.

[1319] I think he should have a cooking show.

[1320] He actually, you know, can whip up some fucking mean food.

[1321] Yeah, right?

[1322] like we like now that Bourdain's gone like we need more of those kind of shows that explore food and Bordane show changed the way I feel about food I used to think of food as just something that tastes really good I didn't think of it as an art form and then I watched his show and you know the reverence that he had for chefs and for the creation of food and made me realize like oh this is an art form that I was ignorant of I didn't think of it the right way on all levels not just like the high chef level he brings it to like the home front where it's like even these local look at him yeah what's he cooking some sandwich or something oh he's making sandwiches yeah no you're right man like on street food level he loves Tony loved uh street tacos and shit he would go everywhere and buy street food i mean honestly when you're cooking you feel like that though i know you because now i see you cooking all the time whenever you're posting that shit never invite me over to have Some of that beautiful elk.

[1323] Listen, dude, I was going to set it up here.

[1324] I was going to set a thing up here, but they can never figure out how to get ventilation in here.

[1325] We have a grill back there that's never been used.

[1326] It's just sitting back there.

[1327] Look at him.

[1328] He's taking a steak.

[1329] He's drinking wine.

[1330] I wonder why, see, this is how stony his show is.

[1331] Like, they let him wear a shirt that you can't wear, so they had a blur out of his shirt.

[1332] That's such a stony thing.

[1333] Like, hey, man, you can't.

[1334] wear that shirt oh yo i got it on that's it this is what i'm wearing so do what you got to do exactly so they got to follow him around that blur thing drives me nuts like what is it what could it possibly be that so but it's there's there's times when i see like that back all right back when he had that loser video the first thing that comes up on the video is him in a mask that's blurred right and i and i was like what the fuck why would why would you wear it was purposely done like like I think sometimes maybe it's like...

[1335] Yeah, it's like, what the fuck?

[1336] Like, what is the mask?

[1337] That's just Beck being a weirdo.

[1338] Yeah, but what is?

[1339] It makes you go like, but what the fuck is it?

[1340] He's a fascinating guy too.

[1341] You know, he's a devout Scientologist.

[1342] Yeah.

[1343] Which is...

[1344] His dad is an amazing string arranger, like an orchestrator.

[1345] And he did a couple of my albums where I, when I had string arrangements and stuff.

[1346] Really?

[1347] Yeah.

[1348] Yeah, I mean, he's a legit musician.

[1349] Like, a really interesting musician.

[1350] back is next level you don't hear about him that often these days again another I think I think it's the same kind of thing dude it doesn't he's not playing the game right we just I make you know he makes music just an artist when it's time to make music it's time to make music yeah there's still I mean in other words it's for me I'm sorry to but it's not it's it's like okay this is a product this record right but it's not a product to me it's like I just eight years of my life you know I mean I didn't make it because I was concerned about keep my otherwise that's why the guy the guys they got to put a record out every year those are the guys i'm like whoa how do you fucking that's all that's you know right that takes a lot to put a fucking right especially if it's going to be good so anybody they can put out a record every year that's good that's next level yeah well louis k was doing that for a while it's stand -up yeah yeah that is hard to do george carlin did it every year george carlin did a stand -up special every year and to us to all stand -up comics but we all get together and talk about that everybody kind of agrees it's almost impossible he did it but very few people could do it and I mean not to criticize Carlin because Carlin did it and pulled it off but most of us feel like that's not enough time like you need more time to let it cook you need more time to add and twist I've never had a record come out like I think the shortest period would be was like two years two and a half years and that's you probably just constantly going at it yeah anytime i wasn't touring or something and we'd be locked in a room somewhere trying to make music now when you record when you like say if you're going to lay down an album do you have everything completely mapped out before you go into the studio or do you fuck around with it while you're in there well the process for this album in particular was was wild because again when leila was born and the disease we found out she was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis.

[1351] I actually was planning to not tour any of that anymore, but I was going to write songs.

[1352] I was going to go to, I went to Nashville, started hanging out with a few songwriters out there and wrote some stuff.

[1353] One of the songs, it ain't easy, which I played years ago on your podcast, is on this album.

[1354] So I wrote some songs with people, but the intention was they were going to be for other people.

[1355] So I recorded them in a very kind of plain Jane way not my spin on what they would have been and after a few years like I just never really pursued it's too much of a sales pitch I had what I had you have to go out and like be that smoother selling your songs and it just never appealed to me and so after a few years I just I did an acoustic record and then I started touring that for a while just old songs but recorded them acoustically and then And after that was done and I realized, all right, you know, I need to keep working.

[1356] What am I to do?

[1357] I went back and revisited some of these songs but I realized I have to re -record them.

[1358] That's why I didn't see that they were my songs because I recorded it in a way that I thought other people would want to use them.

[1359] So I went and re -recorded about, I don't know, five or six of the songs that were already here.

[1360] And then my buddy evidence from Dilated People's got involved with me and we recorded a few of these rap tracks and it started kind of coming together and it kind of started coming together in a similar way that the original whitey four sings the blues record did that's why i kind of also named it what it is um there was a lot of similarities and i feel like i just pulled everything from every every part of the toolbox that i've learned from since i started you know whether it was the iced tea years or the house of pain years or the whitey ford years i just drew on it all and trying to see what i said it was the eight years of life it's not like a a literal representation of what's happened to me but it's an emotional journey of like all the kind of feelings and shit that I'm like a lot of struggles and a lot of it's it's it's it's my best record you know but eight years right here so I've never been in a rush that's a big statement that it's your best record it's my best record ever I'm confident in it is it available everywhere like I too streaming Amazon yeah stream the shit out of it it I own my masters how does that work if you own your master's do you get more it's it's Well, if you own your masters, you get paid outright, like, you know, you're the label.

[1361] I'm my own label.

[1362] So the reason, the people that complain about not getting paid by streaming are people that are signed to record deals that are getting a small piece of what the master is getting.

[1363] If you own the master, you know, you...

[1364] So streaming is viable for someone who owns the master's?

[1365] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1366] I mean, it's viable, period.

[1367] I mean, kids, I mean, that's the way it is.

[1368] It's just the, it's the future.

[1369] It's now.

[1370] But the people who say it doesn't pay.

[1371] They're in shitty deals.

[1372] You know what I mean?

[1373] Because it pays, you know, I would like it to pay a little better, but, you know, it pays.

[1374] It pays all right.

[1375] Who was it?

[1376] I think if you take a million streams, it equals out to around $8 ,000.

[1377] Oh, for you.

[1378] Just in general, like, that's the payment for what that is to a label.

[1379] Like, it would be around eight.

[1380] To a label.

[1381] Yeah, yeah.

[1382] Like a million streams is about the equivalent of about $8.

[1383] And that doesn't sound like a lot, but a million streams is like, you know, a thousand guys that or people, fans of yours that stream your shit, whatever.

[1384] a thousand times a hundred times right you know it's not it goes quicker and you think like i think drake like streamed a billion streams this first week right you know that's a nice chunk of change man david crosby was tweeting about how bad streaming deals are but that is because he has a bad deal if he doesn't own his master yeah if he's like recording a deal for another record for the record company you know i mean it's all his older songs oh that's yeah then he's probably got shit deals on i mean some of my older stuff i don't get paid on what i feel like i should but it's like the stuff since I've owned my master's, which is the last 15 years of my life.

[1385] You know what I mean?

[1386] It's fascinating for me on the outside, looking at what happens with labels and how they do things.

[1387] It's just, it's amazing their sort of survival instincts, how they figured out how to stay active.

[1388] Labels are signing podcasters now because of streaming.

[1389] Streaming, like, you should be getting checks from this, Joe.

[1390] I don't allow them to stream me. Honestly, you could be coming.

[1391] Pandora, Spotify, I say, nope.

[1392] Well, you'd probably have to be exclusive to one of them as the deal, too.

[1393] Well, either way, what they are is just a portal.

[1394] Your YouTube views are streaming.

[1395] That's streaming.

[1396] It doesn't have to be with a streaming service.

[1397] Right.

[1398] I mean, but you should have a digital company that is representing you that's collecting all that if you don't.

[1399] Yeah, no, I do for that.

[1400] Okay, just make sure.

[1401] Yeah, but that's, like, the YouTube thing, you know what the YouTube thing?

[1402] The most fascinating thing about it is, it's only YouTube.

[1403] That's the crazy thing.

[1404] We think about how big the internet is And there's really only one thing like YouTube It was a good moment they came And the branding and everything they did I mean I saw like I don't know if it was a documentary Because it wasn't full length But it might have been just like a little like feature Like it within a news kind of segment thing About how you know the original videos that were huge on on YouTube Were like a kid biting another kid And like the original first for the longest time The most played video on YouTube was the Charlie biting the kid or something You know, and that's where it all came from, like, it almost came from America's home video, like, funniest home video kind of thing.

[1405] YouTube kind of filled in that void for a long time with, they were memes before they were memes.

[1406] They were just viral videos, you know what I mean.

[1407] That wasn't that long ago.

[1408] It wasn't.

[1409] It was so crazy.

[1410] It's like a decade ago.

[1411] And that, well, I mean, the necessity of having to change the music business is what changed YouTube, you know, because they caught on like, all right, TV doesn't play videos anymore.

[1412] Right.

[1413] And nobody's buying records.

[1414] So we got to sell, you know, the whole thing for the longest was like when the bottom had really fallen out for a while of making any money off of actual records was like, well, you can bootleg my record and you can download my record, but you can't download the t -shirt.

[1415] Right.

[1416] So it became sell the lifestyle.

[1417] So the music became background music to the, you know, everything else.

[1418] It was part of the lifestyle in the cars and this.

[1419] And all I wanted you to do was really go buy this limited edition t -shirt that I'm selling you right now.

[1420] You know what, that's the game changed into.

[1421] It's still that.

[1422] You know, I mean, that's why the fuckery and the trollism and all that, because people want eyes on them.

[1423] So the next thing, they have the opportunity to sell, they can sell.

[1424] Yeah, that's what's interesting to me about labels is now labels get a piece of everything.

[1425] They do these 360 deals.

[1426] Yeah, don't, that's Satan.

[1427] Crazy.

[1428] That was unheard of when I was out.

[1429] You didn't get a piece of, not only t -shirt shows, you get a piece of, they get a piece of, live money.

[1430] You know, it's like, it used to be like, I had to pay you.

[1431] I used to be like, all right, a record label would give.

[1432] me half a million dollars all right and i'd go and make a record with that i'd i could spend whatever i wanted making the record and whatever the rest money left over was mine that 500 grand was mine i could spend it all making the record or i could spend 50 grand making the record and pocket the rest that was up to me um and then after that my job your job was the label was to sell that record my job was to hit the road and go tour right and i go tour for a few years and at first i'm not even making money tour and you're giving me money to go out there and tour it's called tour support that used to be and that gets added on to your bill.

[1433] You didn't get paid.

[1434] No, you would get like money for tour, but like it wouldn't cover like a bus and a band and all this.

[1435] So the label would supplement that with what they called tour support, which would also become part of the debt you owed the label.

[1436] Right.

[1437] But as you built your live audience, your guarantees would go up sooner or later.

[1438] You could stop taking that money.

[1439] And then your record sales would pay that off, hopefully, if you were doing well enough.

[1440] And now you got your own stream of revenue with live.

[1441] t -shirts, all this other outside shit that's yours.

[1442] That's the way it was when I came up.

[1443] Now it's like, that's not a deal.

[1444] They want it at all.

[1445] How'd they sneak that in?

[1446] Well, because when Napster and shit dropped the bottom out of the record business and nobody was paying for records, labels weren't going to give you a half a million dollars just for your record because nobody was buying records.

[1447] They want to sell your t -shirts too.

[1448] It's not amazing, though, they figured out how to stay alive like that?

[1449] Because they always knew that people were going to be needy.

[1450] It all boils down to this, too.

[1451] And I hope somebody one day, like, really investigates this and makes some sort of, like, documentary about it.

[1452] It's like, they had so many opportunities to be ahead.

[1453] The movie industry didn't take the same hit.

[1454] They took hits, and they dealt with piracy.

[1455] But they, the music industry had a moment, if you remember, there was, like, some kids that got in trouble for downloading ridiculous amounts of music and their parents were being held responsible.

[1456] Yeah.

[1457] And the music industry backed off of it because the news wasn't good.

[1458] The movie industry never backed off of that kind of shit.

[1459] they told you we're going to fucking sue your life off.

[1460] Well, some people did get sued for music, though.

[1461] But the music industry backed off, though.

[1462] They didn't keep the pedal down and keep the foot on the neck, like you're going to steal this.

[1463] This cost, you got to remember back then, if I would have got a half a million dollars, I probably would have spent up to two of that on a record.

[1464] $200 ,000 just on the making studio time, whoever's got to be involved, engineers, producers, 200 grand off top.

[1465] That's minimum we would have spent on a record.

[1466] And then you go out and people steal it.

[1467] Right.

[1468] You know what I mean?

[1469] It's the same, you know, went, did you ever download shit for free?

[1470] My thing, not at first, my thing became later like, okay, this is what, this is the wave, But if I, my, my philosophy was if I downloaded your shit and I liked it, I would go, I'd go buy it.

[1471] Me too.

[1472] Like, if I, if I downloaded it and was trashed, then hey, I looked at it as like a taste test.

[1473] That's good.

[1474] Yeah.

[1475] Okay, maybe if more people adapted that, things would, but again, the record industry had plenty of opportunities to jump ahead of it and be it.

[1476] There was technology out there already that people were dealing with, bringing it to them, tell them this wave is coming.

[1477] So what do you think they did wrong?

[1478] And the record industry was making so much money at that time.

[1479] If you look at the amount of money, they were making off of the boy bands and the Britney Spears is enough.

[1480] It was retarded how much money was in the record business.

[1481] And they let it all go down the drain because they thought they had all the answers and they thought it had all the money.

[1482] What could they have done to stop it?

[1483] I'd have to go back.

[1484] I have some like books on it.

[1485] Something like get paid for streaming.

[1486] There were people.

[1487] There were people who ready there to help set up things like Naster and how to monetize it and control there was ways to deal with it there were ways to be part of it instead of like wait till it was too late well the thing about the movie industry too though is that like people want to go to the movies like the experience is not as good Apple music saved the music industry like Apple at first iTunes why didn't the record industry like there were people telling them this is coming and I didn't mean to interrupt you but they could have made iTunes first not called iTunes but like The record industry itself should have digitized and been ready.

[1488] It would have been that simple.

[1489] Come up with their own version of iTunes.

[1490] And they could have invested a lot more money.

[1491] The music industry is booming, but artists are losing big.

[1492] Because most artists are signed a record deals.

[1493] With just 12 % of revenue.

[1494] 12%.

[1495] Whoa.

[1496] $43 billion a year was its most profitable year since 2006.

[1497] Yes.

[1498] Listeners are spending more money than ever, largely on stream.

[1499] streaming and live music with consumer spending totaling more than $20 billion last year.

[1500] Wow, yet artists aren't feeling the increase of that 20 billion music industry.

[1501] Entities such as record labels took home 10 billion musicians taking home just 5 .1 billion with the majority of the revenue coming from touring and concert sales.

[1502] It's amazing.

[1503] That's amazing that it's like a parasitic industry.

[1504] It's like people don't necessarily need them the way they used to need them.

[1505] Not that they used to.

[1506] I was going to just play devil's advocate and say, well, it used to be that I'm the guy to put up all the fuck.

[1507] If I'm the label, oh, I'm putting up millions of dollars in advance, gambling it on you.

[1508] Now when you win, you want to take away my lion's share?

[1509] No, fuck you.

[1510] Now it's totally different.

[1511] Now you can do this on your own.

[1512] Yeah.

[1513] You know what I mean?

[1514] You could start an Instagram, start a YouTube, start this, and you can make beats on your laptop in your living room.

[1515] Well, like, Chance the rapper, right?

[1516] Isn't that the guy who does everything, everything he's done is his own shit online?

[1517] Sure.

[1518] sure sure yeah you don't believe it what do you mean exactly oh jamie's got a conspiracy theory but he's got more support than he would say now he does sure yeah now he does maybe but i mean basically he's become huge all on his own right and you mean you look it's like so many viral music hits you know they get they get big online just because kids share it and they like it and then it becomes gigantic like with the music industry the the industry the the labels have nothing to do with that, right?

[1519] No, there's labels that are doing their thing out there that actually know what they're doing and marketing wise and all that.

[1520] There's still a lot of kids that are being made, you know, famous by label.

[1521] So there's some benefit.

[1522] Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of these, a lot of the reasons some of these artists are only seeing 5 .1 minutes because they're signed a record deals, you know, Jay -Z ain't only saying 5 % of what, you know, he's due because he, you know, he's been in the game long enough and they started out with their own label.

[1523] They started in the beginning, Rockefeller Records, was independent.

[1524] So that's the kind of you know those kind of guys are never going to lose as long as you know they can still make music that people buy yeah they figure out a way to rope you in early too where like even if your record is successful the second record you it's not like you're going to be able to be independent on the second record they owe you they own you for several down the line right usually I mean it used to be I think the standard was like eight eight yeah but it's it's that but that's it's it's it's misleading because it depends on where you're from too there's also like you know if your first record is very successful And you have a lawyer that has any wherewithal, you're renegotiating before you do the second record.

[1525] You know what I mean?

[1526] These are things you learn.

[1527] But like if you're struggling, that eight record thing, too.

[1528] Also, if you study the record business, it goes back to like when actually artists used to be built.

[1529] Like nobody expected the first album to do anything.

[1530] Like when they would sign bands like in the 60s, like, you know, they had a plan like by an album three and four.

[1531] Here's where we'll be.

[1532] You know, they used to build artists.

[1533] There used to be A &R.

[1534] They actually used to nurture and fun.

[1535] and take care of a band for a long time and watch them grow.

[1536] You know, that's the way it used to be until, like, you know, whatever it was, maybe the 80s it changed.

[1537] I had a record deal for my comedy album in 1999.

[1538] I had a record deal with Warner Brothers.

[1539] It was like a real record deal.

[1540] Like, I met with them.

[1541] They promoted it.

[1542] The whole deal.

[1543] It was like I went through the whole record industry business.

[1544] Yeah, there was always a comedian or two on labels.

[1545] Yeah, they don't have that anymore.

[1546] I mean, comedy albums, You do it yourself.

[1547] Well, it's not just that.

[1548] You definitely can do it yourself.

[1549] But comedy albums just aren't that popular anymore for some strange reason.

[1550] Well, because it's a, it's a piss -poor way to do the art form.

[1551] You want to watch it.

[1552] I was about to say, it's so visual that now comedy albums were big when everybody didn't have a TV screen or everything.

[1553] It's like you could listen and imagine what he was doing or something.

[1554] But some guys translate super well.

[1555] Like Mitch Hedberg translates amazing to CD, to just audio.

[1556] because he basically just stands there and tells great jokes like he doesn't have like there's all it's fun to watch him more fun to watch him but once you know what he looks like and how he does it it's like kind of cool to listen to it on the albums i was just talking about stephen right the other day too stephen right was a genius he was amazing yeah but that that style is hard to do see what what mitch headberg basically did was do that stephen wright style but like a more stony drug style, but the drugs allowed him to come up with way more of those things.

[1557] He'd per could just go on for days.

[1558] He had so much fucking material, man. That guy wrote constantly.

[1559] He was always writing until the end.

[1560] In the end, you know, the drugs got to him.

[1561] Obviously, they killed him.

[1562] But he was, that's a non -sequitur style.

[1563] That's the hardest style of comedy.

[1564] You say one thing, and then you say something totally unrelated the next joke and the next joke's totally unrelated no no man and you you know it's all segways i'm sorry no segues i'm sorry no segues yeah that's an album but sequencer too it's like they don't they don't fit in together in any way shape or form they're just total non sequiters just here's a funny thing i thought of here's another funny thing i thought of you know but his style was so unique just the way he delivered things was so unique he was funny just talking about nothing, like talking about anything.

[1565] One of my favorite jokes of his, he goes, he goes, somebody asks me if I want a frozen banana.

[1566] I said no, but I want a regular banana later, so yes.

[1567] That's just such a silly joke, but it's such a great joke.

[1568] That's a stoner joke for sure.

[1569] Oh, man, all day.

[1570] He's got like one of the best, his albums are some of the best stoner material of all time, maybe the best.

[1571] You're going to make me go listen to some.

[1572] Oh, he was incredible, man. Oh, I'm familiar.

[1573] I just haven't listened to it or heard any of him forever.

[1574] I'll throw him on every now and again when I'm on my way to the airport.

[1575] I used to listen to on Sirius all the time, the comedy channel, the dirtier, darker one, you know, the more grown -up one, and he'd pop on there every once in a while.

[1576] Oh, yeah.

[1577] Yeah, I haven't had Serious and forever.

[1578] Do you still listen to that?

[1579] No, because I just, I just, I don't really, honestly, my favorite thing in the car is silence.

[1580] Really?

[1581] Yeah.

[1582] Like, by myself, like, I get a lot of things.

[1583] done driving like it's or like if i'm ever really like stumped while i'm working on a song like because i don't write things down or anything i just i'll get in a car and drive and somehow it'll work itself out i can really just relax behind the wheel yeah i know what you mean unless i'm in like the middle of like fucked up driving i be like at night i can get in a car i could drive on an open road and it'll just it really relaxes me i have a car that i take to the comedy store all the time and it's a 1993 Porsche, doesn't have any radio.

[1584] No radio, it's manual transmission, no power steering, no air conditioning.

[1585] It's just an old car and everything.

[1586] Like when you drive it, you feel every bump, and it's like, boom, and you shift it.

[1587] But because of all that, I have to think, and it fires my brain up because I'm doing all these different things, hitting a clutch, shifting the gears, you know, managing this heavy steering wheel and all that jazz.

[1588] And when I get to the store, my brain is like charged up because of it it's like I've been doing a bunch of things it's like exercising your brain yeah I'm not like in the back seat sleeping you know waiting to get to the show and then I love to drive I love to drive do you still get that crazy Audi no now right now I have a I just bought a truck actually and I got a CLS 63 S yeah it's nice that I just couldn't bring the kids in the Audi but I'm actually I miss it so much I'm actually about to get another one so they have a new one yeah I know it's A beast of a car.

[1589] What do you think?

[1590] I'm sitting here like, oh, shit.

[1591] I was like, all right, I got to hit the road for about three months.

[1592] I'll be back for that car.

[1593] It's an amazing car.

[1594] Yeah.

[1595] It's a good time if you're into cars.

[1596] They've got a lot of crazy -ass fucking automobiles now.

[1597] Yeah, when I did have the R -A man, I would just like, and then I lived much further south.

[1598] I actually lived off the 15, like below the 91.

[1599] And I would, when I would shoot to sometimes out to Vegas for fights, I would just jump in the R -8, like on a Thursday night.

[1600] like 11 o 'clock I'd be there by two I'd get there in like three hours I mean I was already on the 15 I wasn't coming from deep L .A still Jesus yeah but I'd do like a fucking buck 30 the whole way God damn it that's fast that's a four wheel drive car too that car's glued to the ground it's like on fucking rails man it's one of my favorite cars I've ever driven yeah it's like in the style like it's still relevant like they've kept that style basically with just a little few facelifts and improvements for a few years.

[1601] It's essentially like a mini Lamborghini, right?

[1602] It's the same engine.

[1603] Yeah, it's the gallardo.

[1604] The same engine as the guyardo is a V -D, I mean, it's more than enough power.

[1605] The crazy thing about today's cars is they have so much power.

[1606] It's just ridiculous.

[1607] Like every year it's like a new faster zero to 60 time, new records on the Nuregring.

[1608] It's like, what are you doing?

[1609] Like, where are you taking this?

[1610] Like, where are you going to drive this thing that fast?

[1611] You know?

[1612] It's going to be teleporting, sir.

[1613] Corvette ZR1 has 700 and something fucking horsepower.

[1614] Yeah, how does it even stay on the, you know?

[1615] It barely does.

[1616] One of the drivers from GM, one of like the head execs from GM, took it on the racetrack, like when they were first releasing it and crashed, like immediately spun out and slammed into the fucking wall.

[1617] That's great.

[1618] You got to know what the fuck you're doing if you're throttling.

[1619] I mean, you have to be able to navigate that throttle with 700 horsepower because no matter what, those wheels are spinning, especially rear wheel drive, no matter how much traction control.

[1620] Do you ever see that video?

[1621] See, find the video.

[1622] It's fucking hilarious.

[1623] It's a good video to watch, to let you know.

[1624] Like, this is a crazy vehicle that you people are selling.

[1625] You're letting people get a car that is so much faster than anything that was on the road five years ago.

[1626] I mean, it's a fucking insane mobile.

[1627] And the speed limit ain't changed.

[1628] No. You know where that car comes in handy?

[1629] Germany.

[1630] Yeah, GM exec crashes, new Corvette ZR1.

[1631] I mean, he got, this was before it was even released.

[1632] This dude showed everybody with the problems.

[1633] I got an extra one.

[1634] He ain't sent me that one.

[1635] Funny, I was talking about this guy, but I liked a picture of his so long ago.

[1636] Here it is.

[1637] Look at this guy.

[1638] Boom!

[1639] Play that again.

[1640] Oh, my goodness.

[1641] Watch this.

[1642] Play it for the beginning, this knuckle.

[1643] It started too quick.

[1644] I'll see if there's more angles on the...

[1645] No, no, no. Look at this.

[1646] Right away, this guy, hey, I know how to drive.

[1647] I'm a fucking executive shit!

[1648] Wow.

[1649] Yeah, he's driving like an asshole.

[1650] He doesn't know how to drive.

[1651] Sorry, sir.

[1652] He just put the foot down.

[1653] He doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

[1654] Dumbass.

[1655] Look, that's a car that you have to know how to navigate once the side...

[1656] When the ass end kicks out, too.

[1657] He was just stomping it.

[1658] That's hilarious.

[1659] Crash.

[1660] I'm sure he got a nice amount of shit at the next board meeting.

[1661] Well, he should look at that fucking car, though.

[1662] Good Lord.

[1663] What a beast of a car.

[1664] What are they retailing for?

[1665] It's more than 100.

[1666] I think it's like 150, $160 ,000.

[1667] Damn.

[1668] Probably fully loaded, but it is a monster.

[1669] It looks good.

[1670] I like what they've done to the body stuff.

[1671] See, but you know where your R8 has a huge advantage?

[1672] Your R8 is a four -wheel drive car.

[1673] and 755 horsepower, good load, good lord.

[1674] That's insane.

[1675] Good load.

[1676] But the problem is it's hard to keep all that power down on the ground with a rear -wheel drive car.

[1677] You're just going to get a lot of sliding.

[1678] And if you know how to drive, you like that.

[1679] People who know how to drive, they want to kick the ass in to out sideways.

[1680] But like if you drive a, like, say a Nissan GTR, as a perfect example, one of the best things about that car is a regular.

[1681] person can drive it pretty fast because there's a lot of electronics and what they would call nanny controls that sort of keep everything in order.

[1682] So that car has been around for a long time.

[1683] They really haven't changed a whole lot about the way it looks, but they've made these incremental improvements and performance.

[1684] And to this day, that is one of the beastiest cars you could drive.

[1685] That car is a motherfucker.

[1686] I rented one of those in Austin last year.

[1687] Holy shit, was it fun?

[1688] It's a crazy car.

[1689] It does it.

[1690] It defies logic.

[1691] Like, it defies physics.

[1692] That's the Nismo one.

[1693] You don't want that one unless you want to take it to a track because that shit's harsh as fuck.

[1694] You just want the regular one.

[1695] The regular one is beasty enough.

[1696] They're amazing cars, though.

[1697] All the pop -up windows trying to get you to buy it.

[1698] Come on, buy it.

[1699] Buy it.

[1700] Buy it.

[1701] Come on, buy it.

[1702] Buy it.

[1703] But really, if I was going to get a brand -new Japanese car, the real car to get now is the new NSX.

[1704] It's a new NSX.

[1705] T .J. Dilshaw has one.

[1706] He brought it in here, and I was checking it.

[1707] outside.

[1708] Fuck, man. It's got electric engines on top of the regular engines.

[1709] It's an amazing car.

[1710] Just fucking amazing.

[1711] And it's gorgeous.

[1712] Oh, the accurate.

[1713] Okay.

[1714] And they have a 2019 one that's coming out that has even more improvements.

[1715] But it's hard for them to sell these cars because, like, look how good that looks.

[1716] Look how good that looks.

[1717] God damn.

[1718] I'm still kind of partial to the Audi.

[1719] Audi's a beast.

[1720] Yeah, I love it.

[1721] Look, it's just, it's apples or oranges.

[1722] It's It's just what you're into.

[1723] TJ's got that color, too, that blue.

[1724] Pull up 2018, Audi R8.

[1725] Oh!

[1726] It's a 19.

[1727] Oh, look at that.

[1728] That's gorgeous.

[1729] Come on, son.

[1730] You've got to get silver, too, because it looks like a fucking spaceship.

[1731] That's a monster car.

[1732] Look how beautiful that is.

[1733] That's one of the best -looking cars I've ever seen.

[1734] What are they, like a buck 80, too?

[1735] Something like that.

[1736] Monster, monster vehicle.

[1737] Just ridiculous performance.

[1738] Good -looking car.

[1739] Yeah, and easy to drive, too.

[1740] It's one of those cars.

[1741] It's just it's glued to the ground four -wheel drive electric power electric engines controlling the wheels crazy brake systems amazing 159 cheese mose that's a lot of cheta but it doesn't have the sound that your car had see the thing about the Audi is they have that big ass fucking V8 or the V10 depending on which one you get that V10 That's a different thing man It's a different thing.

[1742] What is that beast?

[1743] A new R8.

[1744] Ooh, what the fuck?

[1745] 2019 R8 LMS.

[1746] Oh, that's the race car.

[1747] That's a monster.

[1748] That's gorgeous.

[1749] Pull up 2019 Audi R8.

[1750] People get mad.

[1751] We talk too much about cars.

[1752] I couldn't even afford these cars, bro.

[1753] Why are you talking about these cars?

[1754] Because it's fun.

[1755] That must be the camouflaged one.

[1756] I actually heard, I saw on Twitter someone posted a picture.

[1757] They saw one like this driving around, with like this weird paint job i've seen that yeah yeah they drive them all over cities and everything like that to test them yeah they do that for quite a long i've been around a few of those cars you ever see the one that they'll do it with regular cars i remember when the remember the pt cruiser yes when that was first like long before it came out like about a year before it came out they would like see this ugly fucking thing driving around with these magnetic like covers all over it like so you couldn't see the car but you could totally tell what the shape was right it's fucking hilarious nobody gives a shit about that car anyway what they're going to steal your design no one's stealing that design it was such a shitty car dude i drove one once i had i rented one because it looked kind of cool i said i'll take one of those that's kind of cool looking oh my god what a death trap i was driving i was like this thing has zero control like you can't corner in it the brakes suck it's just built to look like an old surfer car way worse i rented a hummer h3 once i would never even oh good lord and i took it on a dirt road I was in Colorado, we drove up this hill, the Dura.

[1758] Like, every time I was going around a corner, it was kicking out sideways.

[1759] I didn't think of, like, zero traction.

[1760] It was a terrible car.

[1761] Did you ever drive a prowler?

[1762] Oh, never.

[1763] Interesting side bit, Chip Fuse designed that.

[1764] Same guy who built my barracuda, or designed my barracuda, not built it.

[1765] Yeah.

[1766] Yeah, no thanks.

[1767] Yeah, disgusting.

[1768] That was like the hot wheel you hated.

[1769] Right, you're like, get this one out.

[1770] out of here, man. That's the hot wheel you put a firecracker in.

[1771] Yeah, give me that old Corvette.

[1772] Fuck this little thing.

[1773] Yeah, they tried those.

[1774] They tried those for a while.

[1775] Yeah.

[1776] It's an interesting time for cars, though, now.

[1777] They, I mean, and people are starting to go towards electric cars.

[1778] Have you driven a Tesla yet?

[1779] No. That's a goddamn space machine.

[1780] Those things are rocket ships.

[1781] They're so fast, they don't even make any sense.

[1782] They don't make any sense.

[1783] They're zero to 60 in, like, two seconds.

[1784] That's crazy.

[1785] They're so fast.

[1786] I wasn't hip to that.

[1787] There's no gears, right?

[1788] Because there's no, the transmission is not the same.

[1789] Because there's no, it's not a combustion engine, has to feed in the transmission, the clutch and all that.

[1790] This is kind of like when you just...

[1791] That roadster.

[1792] Press forward on the remote control cars, right?

[1793] Just zoo!

[1794] Exactly.

[1795] That kind of makes sense, yeah.

[1796] Just electric car that goes 1 .9 seconds, sun, zero to 60.

[1797] What in the actual fuck?

[1798] And it can go 620 miles before you have to charge it.

[1799] that's crazy that's gonna be a monster that is yeah and how long you gotta wait to get one probably for a while hey maybe you got a word in with your buddy yeah it's not ready yet it's 2020 they're none of even start selling them I don't even think they've they're not even in production meanwhile he's shot one off into space look how pretty it is though God when that thing comes out that's a gorgeous car that's a CGI though right no no that's the real car because it's probably the one they made remember they had one they shot into space look at that Look how fast that fucking thing goes.

[1800] 1 .9 seconds.

[1801] 250 plus miles per hour.

[1802] I mean, what the fuck?

[1803] That's going to be one of the most amazing cars ever once it actually comes out.

[1804] Yeah, that's kind of cool.

[1805] Save up your cheta.

[1806] 200 Gs.

[1807] Whoa.

[1808] 250 fully loaded.

[1809] Whoa.

[1810] It's just a quarter brick, dog.

[1811] That's it.

[1812] Founder Series Reservation.

[1813] What does that mean?

[1814] I don't know.

[1815] Cool.

[1816] Awesome.

[1817] Yeah.

[1818] Yeah, that guy was a weird guy to talk to, because I couldn't get over all the stuff he does.

[1819] I'm like, how do you do all these different things?

[1820] How do you make these, and then you make roof panels, and then you're, like, drilling tunnels, and then you're shooting rockets into space.

[1821] SpaceX.

[1822] Yeah.

[1823] He's doing everything.

[1824] Maybe he's an alien.

[1825] He said he was.

[1826] Maybe we should listen.

[1827] He said he was an alien.

[1828] He might be.

[1829] Might be a higher -thinking life form.

[1830] Well, he might as well be.

[1831] right if he was an alien and he looked exactly like that i'll be honest when he grabbed a joint and the way he kind of looked at it i was kind of like it seemed kind of like a guy who was kind of like i'm not familiar with this practice but or maybe he's so smart that he thought it would be funny if he pretended he didn't know what a joint was could be i don't think he didn't know what it was i'm just saying as he was about to partake he kind of had this real inquisitive like yeah but that was a part it was a blunt and he almost seemed like he didn't know what a blunt was like you've never been i could believe that really i can believe that the glass tip could have thrown them off because that's a little unique if you're not if you're not familiar not everybody is hip -to -wee culture man as we think you know i mean right but when he said that uh tesla was going private funding secure at 420 which he's he's got paid 20 million dollars for that joke that joke caused him 20 million dollars the SEC got mad at them they find him yeah well it's also manipulating your stock prices a little bit.

[1832] Well, that was one of the things...

[1833] You can send your shareholders into a panic.

[1834] Jamie was concerned that they were going to contact us and see if we arranged that pot smoking part.

[1835] Like if that was something that had been arranged in advance because it crashed the stock.

[1836] And I was like, oh, Jesus.

[1837] I was like, Joe Rogan making noise out here.

[1838] I was like, oh, Jesus, we didn't do that, did we?

[1839] I definitely didn't.

[1840] Yeah, that was organic, folks.

[1841] Dude, that was amazing.

[1842] Dude, that was amazing.

[1843] Strange.

[1844] That's what this podcast is for.

[1845] Yeah, for strange shit.

[1846] Strange moments that you can't get on NBC.

[1847] Well, you can't even get it on Netflix.

[1848] You know, I mean, look with Norm McDonald's show on Netflix.

[1849] Like, he's got that thing that he's doing on Netflix.

[1850] Netflix is probably the most unrestricted of all networks, of all things you're trying to do.

[1851] And in terms of comedy, there's nothing.

[1852] ever been like it's the greatest thing Netflix for sure is the greatest thing that's ever happened to stand -up comedy ever I can see that never been a company They give you no feedback They don't they don't give you they don't fuck with you at all They don't they don't censor you They don't tell you what to do They don't me they have some people Have said some things that they wanted to edit out What's a number game too for them?

[1853] Has to be like way Way across the line before they They know what Joe Rogan numbers are They, you know, that's when they come to you and they say, here's your special, we're going to do this.

[1854] They know what they're, they know, they don't, they know who you are, what you do.

[1855] They know they're signing with you or doing their special with you because they know how many eyes you're going to bring to the channel.

[1856] Yeah, they know what they're doing.

[1857] But it's still that just having this ability to have something streaming.

[1858] It's like there's never been, like, if you, if you're, if you were a person who said, oh, I want to do a show on, you know, this network.

[1859] Forget about Netflix.

[1860] Like, if you just decide it, that's almost like, I don't want people to watch this.

[1861] I want people to watch it one time.

[1862] I want it to be on 10 p .m. Saturday, October 17th, and that's it.

[1863] Like, who the fuck wants that?

[1864] Like, nobody wants that.

[1865] You want someone to be at the airport with their phone and be going, huh, I want to go watch the Chris Rock special.

[1866] Let me check it out right now.

[1867] It's amazing.

[1868] And then you're sitting there on your own, just watching it.

[1869] There is no live TV in a lot.

[1870] all that's going the wayside it's useless it's i see commercials now i start laughing it's why ha ha you fucking dinosaurs with your bullshit ass commercials i just i just finished ozark did you finish it the second season don't say anything don't say anything i'm still i just started the second season i'm on second episode it's so good i'm on the episode where they just the where the hand the guy blew the hand oh i'm early don't you should spoil alert that sir what nobody knows why i win or how ah don't don't There's people out there I'm just saying Netflix is killing it Stranger Things You ever watch that show?

[1871] Yeah no I'm waiting for the next season God damn Netflix here's what Netflix is For me and my wife That's like one of our things We find a show To spend some time together It's helps you know Ozark she found Like you know what I mean Stranger Things I think I found But yeah we That's our thing Like well Ozark has been kind of tough for us Because we watched the first episode of season two and then I went on tour for a month so we just watched the second one the other night yeah so it's like and I gotta leave now so it's like and we can't we don't have time to binge the whole thing so is there any other good ones that I need to know about people occasionally tweet me ones and I forget there's a weird German one called I think dark I mean it's it's subtitle and this stuff but oh it's crazy well black mirror of course oh yeah black mirror that's the shit I watched that shows the shit but that is a weird one that's one of those ones that I watch like I'm stone, I come home from the comedy store and I'm smoking a little weed and I'll watch that and I'll go, why am I watching this far as going to bed?

[1872] You were talking about the one, the Star Trekking one and that's what made me go look at it and I was like, let me go look at it again.

[1873] Because I think I watched it in the beginning.

[1874] I think I tried early on and it was the one where the politician had the fuck, you know.

[1875] Oh, the fuck the pig.

[1876] Yeah, so, and that kind of just was like, all right, just sorry, whatever, this weird shit.

[1877] And I probably just wasn't, you know, I was like, I don't want to, but then when you told me about that one, I went back, started there.

[1878] And that was the last season, and then I worked my way back and actually got to that one again and rewatched it and I was like, oh, these are all pretty crazy.

[1879] Did you see heavy metal?

[1880] Do you see that one?

[1881] That's the one with the drones, the drones coming after people?

[1882] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1883] Whoa.

[1884] Well, that's too close to home.

[1885] I binge -watched Black Mirror pretty tough over just two or three -day period and like for like a couple weeks I was convinced I'm living in a simulation like after watching, especially the dating ones where it's like, they just keep me. It's like that should blew my mind a little bit.

[1886] That was another thing that Elon must freak me out about he was saying it's quite possible that we are living in the simulation oh dude I'm always playing with that idea like is it like you posted something the other day that was like something on the oh it was the Trump thing was that a real t -shirt by the way it's a well it's a real t -shirt that you can buy but it's not from Donald Trump store it's a company that's selling them it's like Trump store dot shop yeah so it's not his like we're living in a movie I was like yeah this is like a simulation this is like crazy just the fact that's someone people like this not that's fake news it's not fake news it's a real shirt i know it's not his but eat the fact that that's a shirt it says i like beer and then has a guy who's run it means they're trying to put this guy in the supreme court it's fucking hilarious the whole world is hilarious the whole world's hilarious it's all fucked up yeah well this is one of the cool things about black mirrors like black mirror showing you like where some things could go in a total dystopian way like where do you see Crocodile?

[1887] See that episode?

[1888] Crocodile.

[1889] That's the one where you can record memories.

[1890] Yes.

[1891] I've seen all of them.

[1892] I just don't know the titles.

[1893] This lady, remember this lady?

[1894] Remember this lady with the car accident at the beginning?

[1895] Insurance company.

[1896] Remember this?

[1897] Remember this?

[1898] That's the darkest of the dark ones.

[1899] That one was so fucked up.

[1900] That one wrecked me. Oh, that was the one where the people could rewind each of those memories and play back.

[1901] Yeah, which is probably, all that is coming.

[1902] Oh, that's easily coming.

[1903] All this shit is coming.

[1904] Then there's the one where it wasn't super dark, but it was where the chick was trying to up her status in the world.

[1905] Yes, yes.

[1906] Get her stars up.

[1907] The Star Trek one's my favorite, I think.

[1908] That one was fucking amazing.

[1909] Yeah, it was a good one.

[1910] It was amazing.

[1911] And that is this sort of weird blend of current reality and a possibility of simulation.

[1912] And like, she doesn't know where she is, who she is, whatever and everybody's recording she's the murderer that was a crazy one too man it's a fucking amazing show yeah i only if you hadn't mentioned the star trek one i probably never would have revisited that so good there's so many good shows now what else is good what else i need to know about anything have you seen it's not a show it's a i think a documentary -ish it's like kind of like half documentary and then they did some like recreations um it's called wormwood no it's all about the acid CIA MK Ultra program and shit Is that a Netflix thing?

[1913] It's on Netflix, yes Wormwood.

[1914] Oh, you've got to check it.

[1915] It's dope.

[1916] You know what my favorite one they did?

[1917] Do you know what Operation Midnight Climax is?

[1918] It sounds familiar.

[1919] The CIA, they ran a brothel and they gave Johns.

[1920] The guys would come to the fuckery and they would give them acid to run tests on them.

[1921] They loved to give people acid for shit.

[1922] Back in the 50s, they didn't know what acid did.

[1923] They were just like, you're taking that.

[1924] Wormwood.

[1925] Wormwood, yeah.

[1926] It's really good, man. It has, like, a really good actor, like, doing the, playing the main role, like, when they do the recreations.

[1927] You'll recognize him.

[1928] I forget his name, but he's been in a talk.

[1929] He was in that movie about the Marines were, with Gilling Hall.

[1930] Oh, where they were in that, rack.

[1931] He was his partner in the time.

[1932] Jarhead?

[1933] No, no. Jarhead.

[1934] Yeah, he was his partner in Jarhead.

[1935] He was that guy.

[1936] He's in a lot of stuff.

[1937] I can't remember his name.

[1938] He's a really good actor, though.

[1939] There's just almost too much good shit to watch.

[1940] today.

[1941] Oh, yeah.

[1942] Another one I watched because of you was the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, wild, uh, wow, wild, uh, oh, wow, wild, uh, and then it all started coming back.

[1943] Like, I remember that news when we were, like, when we were, like, when I was young, like, this guy.

[1944] I don't remember that at all.

[1945] I, like, started being like, oh, man, I kind of remember this.

[1946] You know, I've been reading his book.

[1947] You know what I just watched?

[1948] What?

[1949] What?

[1950] What is that?

[1951] Mm -mm.

[1952] Oh, dude.

[1953] Oh, dude, I can't even, I'm not going to spoil it.

[1954] Go watch that.

[1955] it on i rented it on iTunes for like five bucks three identical strangers yeah yeah it might not be on netflix no no no but it's it's basically some triplets that were separated at birth and and um did i say berth berth at birth and uh the story that i mean and that's that's the the first 20 minutes is amazing after that it gets crazy like and dark really yeah okay let's come back on two Oh, yeah, making a murderer.

[1956] Is that, so is that Netflix, three identical strangers?

[1957] It didn't say, so this is a documentary.

[1958] I don't know.

[1959] It could be.

[1960] Well, Wild Wild Country is just goddamn amazing.

[1961] It was a CNN film, so it could be on Netflix, too.

[1962] But right now it's on iTunes, and you have to rent it, so I don't think I found it on Netflix.

[1963] You know what's weird about Wild Wild Country, and it's weird about all these crazy sex cults?

[1964] It's like part of it you go, yeah, like they got something going on that's right.

[1965] Like, they're figuring out something.

[1966] Like, they're a little bit.

[1967] What I couldn't figure out about that was, Where was the flash point where this guy became this guy?

[1968] Like, what was the thing he did that make everybody believe?

[1969] Because that was never made clear to me. Right.

[1970] I never understood, like, okay, I can understand people getting this excited about it.

[1971] But what was the thing that he did or said?

[1972] Right.

[1973] And I never understood that part of it.

[1974] I've been reading his book, and it's actually pretty interesting.

[1975] I actually have it right here, the art of living and dying.

[1976] And he wrote this book after.

[1977] Yeah, he wrote this book after he became Oshow.

[1978] Or maybe they published it after he became Oshow.

[1979] But it's a very good book.

[1980] It's weird.

[1981] He's like he had some very good idea.

[1982] Oh, you know what?

[1983] I think I left it at home.

[1984] Oh, no, here it is.

[1985] He had some very good ideas.

[1986] Like, philosophically, he's a fascinating guy.

[1987] Or he was a fascinating guy.

[1988] And there's real good evidence that his followers fucking poisoned him.

[1989] Like, there's a lot of people, I shouldn't say this real good evidence.

[1990] There's a lot of people that followed the case very closely that believe that people close to him may have poisoned him and taking his money.

[1991] So the whole thing, you know, I mean, the whole thing was just a massive mind fuck.

[1992] Those houses are still there in that place.

[1993] Like that, that ranch that those guys set up there?

[1994] They're all beating down.

[1995] They showed at the end of the documentary.

[1996] And you're like, whoa.

[1997] And there's an interesting another dude.

[1998] I don't know if you ever heard of him a guy named Dr. Malachi York.

[1999] No, who's that guy?

[2000] He did this.

[2001] He started in New York doing this semi, like sort of Islamic sect thing he did and then he brought it into like aliens and ancient Hebrew stuff.

[2002] He like brought all this stuff together to all these philosophies and he made this utopian like society in like Georgia.

[2003] Oh boy.

[2004] But like the dude was like doing mad criminal shit and they got it.

[2005] I don't know if there's any movie about this.

[2006] Look at him.

[2007] A smile.

[2008] Yeah, but this dude was like, oh, man. He made that picture bigger.

[2009] Look how smiley he is.

[2010] Yeah, it, um, it's, it's an incredibly crazy story.

[2011] Damn, they put him away for 135 years.

[2012] Yeah, he was doing some quay, like, stuff like sex cult stuff was going on with stuff in it.

[2013] You always becomes that.

[2014] Who will lie on him to put him in jail for him?

[2015] It's so, because I've never seen definitive, I've read this and that.

[2016] So it's like.

[2017] There's motherfuckers who say it was like, you know, he's set up and all this shit and that he had such a perfect society going that nobody wanted that that would succeed, you know, that same, you know.

[2018] But, like, I mean, I'm pretty sure it's been proven that the dude was doing some pretty criminal shit.

[2019] Here's two things that seem to happen.

[2020] Whenever anybody runs any kind of crazy cult or any sort of, like, weird community outside the norm, it always becomes sex.

[2021] It always becomes, like, the dude says, you know, a monogamy.

[2022] I think that's what got him in the...

[2023] Yeah, I think that's what got him in trouble.

[2024] I feel like I remember some, like, it being some sexual...

[2025] What are you saying, Jamie?

[2026] They're having sex with children.

[2027] Oh, yeah, that's what they got them.

[2028] But if they wanted to bust him on something, I mean, if they really wanted to bring him down, that's what they would accuse him of.

[2029] I mean, you can't...

[2030] True.

[2031] Once someone accuses you have sex with children, even if you're not guilty, no...

[2032] It's on you.

[2033] It's on you forever.

[2034] But the thing is, like, these...

[2035] No one has ever pulled off, like, a utopian alternative...

[2036] society.

[2037] Never.

[2038] It's crazy.

[2039] It's really interesting because at all the entire history of the United States, no one's been able to do it.

[2040] Like they try it.

[2041] They'll try it for a little bit and then it falls apart.

[2042] Every single one of them.

[2043] That's amazing.

[2044] It's amazing that no one, whether it's Waco, no one.

[2045] It's like this.

[2046] I'd look at it like the line from the Matrix.

[2047] It's like, you know, our first version of the Matrix kept failing because it was all too good and too nice.

[2048] We had to fuck it up a little for everybody to accept it.

[2049] Wow.

[2050] It's just, to me it's it's quite fascinating that you know we stick to a standard way of living which is you know our modern industrial western civilization and that is it and any deviation of that is scrutinized to the point where it's dismantled and the government steps in they always have guns too they always have guns and way too many guns because they're they want to protect their way of life and then someone's banging people's wives and taking all the money fascinating it's weird that not one has figured it out.

[2051] Not one group has just got it nailed.

[2052] Well, it's probably part of the thing that power corrupts.

[2053] You can't have one person that's like the almighty know it all of a thing because he's going to take advantage and then somebody smart within the click is going to say, hey, this is not right and it's going to fall apart.

[2054] And it always is one person.

[2055] Or there's going to be a person underneath that wants that position and it's going to do something to get it.

[2056] But it's always like one charismatic person that seems to lead these things.

[2057] Like, whether it's Jonestown or whether it's Waco.

[2058] Charles Manson.

[2059] Yep, yep, yeah.

[2060] It's always one dude.

[2061] Like, this society's fucked up, man. You got to come with me. You could take that and apply it to Hitler.

[2062] Yep, sure.

[2063] You know what I mean?

[2064] Yeah.

[2065] Like, one guy gets everybody's attention, and next thing you know.

[2066] Yeah, it is weird, isn't it?

[2067] Like, this desire to have, like, a big daddy who got all the answers, who's better than us.

[2068] Because we're all so confused.

[2069] It would be very comforting if someone came along who really understood it all.

[2070] Yeah.

[2071] I've got the solution.

[2072] And especially if they have a big -ass giant, crazy white beard like Osho did, and then they bowed you everywhere.

[2073] Or if their answers blame the people you want it to blame, that make you, you know what I mean?

[2074] That's another good technique is to make sure, oh, all right, what does everybody want to be?

[2075] Okay, that's what we're going to blame it on.

[2076] We'll focus our hate.

[2077] Capitalism, the government.

[2078] You know, a lot of these things don't work out because they have to be based on what we talked about earlier.

[2079] Yep.

[2080] Doing unto others as you want them to do.

[2081] You're truthfully living that lifestyle.

[2082] Yep.

[2083] All right.

[2084] When it doesn't happen like that.

[2085] Cats get the power.

[2086] They get in charge.

[2087] They want to keep that power.

[2088] They want to stay in charge.

[2089] Always.

[2090] You know, and they're not going to treat other people the way they want it.

[2091] They're going to start intimidating people because that's the way you keep people in line.

[2092] Yeah.

[2093] People want to be, you know, subjugated, man. Like you're saying, they want somebody to babysit and, no, oh, I can just sit over here and just be dumb.

[2094] Okay, cool.

[2095] And if no one was in charge, someone would come along that would want to be in charge.

[2096] charge.

[2097] Someone would say, you know what the problem with this organization is?

[2098] There's no leadership.

[2099] We need a strong leader.

[2100] We need someone who respects the values and principles this society was founded on, but someone who also understands how to be a leader.

[2101] And then people go, yes, yes.

[2102] That makes so much sense.

[2103] Yes.

[2104] Guide us.

[2105] They just want to.

[2106] It's the same thing.

[2107] It's what goes on in Instagram.

[2108] Everybody wants to believe everybody's got their, that that guy's got his shit together.

[2109] That guy's got his shit together, man. Fuck, I want to be.

[2110] like that not knowing that like behind the scenes he's falling apart he's falling the fuck apart man i know they're just trying to make it look like they got their shit i had a friend recently no names or anything but like a friend in a couple you would never ever in your life think they were the i mean i was like man i just want to have a relationship like yours you know i mean and no fuss or mess anything one day i just turn around and they have their instagram names are different and all of a sudden i'm not calling what's on he's like oh yeah we just it didn't work we couldn't fake it anymore it was like i don't know if that was if it's that serious but something it was like just shows you none of that shit is real because we don't put you know we don't put our shit moments up for everybody to see yeah Elon must talk about that too the people you see on instagram that you think are on social media that you think are the happiest are probably pretty sad the biggest smiles are fucking struggling the most for sure yeah well they're trying to project that always trying to project you the best version of what their life caught.

[2111] You know it gets the best response all over my Instagram when I post about my family or even our struggles.

[2112] Like this this is rough right now.

[2113] But you share it.

[2114] You say, uh, but we're going to get through.

[2115] We're going to be all right.

[2116] That's one of the things that people like about you, you know, is that you're real.

[2117] You're not, I mean, even though you're a famous guy who's been a successful musician for a long time.

[2118] I used to be famous.

[2119] But you're you're a normal dude, you know.

[2120] I take that as the highest compliment you should it is the highest compliment i take that as a seriously i gotta wrap this podcast up because i have to shit my pants all right before we do tomorrow night the brooklyn bowl friday august fifth at the brooklyn bowl ufc ultimate pre -party t woodley is hosting oh beautiful oh yeah uh cycle realm and my man evidence if you want to get a discount ufc unfiltered is the code put it in there come see us tomorrow night it's going to be the bomb and get it ladies and gentlemen everlast whitey ford house of pain Available now, everywhere.

[2121] Thank you, my brother.

[2122] Thanks for having me. Woo!