MFM Minisode 150

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] This time is, it's real.

[2] Hello.

[3] And welcome to my favorite murder.

[4] The minisode.

[5] Hey, that's Karen Kilgara.

[6] That's Georgia hard start.

[7] This is episode 150.

[8] Is that true?

[9] Yeah.

[10] What a great round number.

[11] I know.

[12] We've really done it.

[13] We've really...

[14] Remember episode 11?

[15] No. Me either.

[16] Good.

[17] Mine are all horrible.

[18] So this is where we reach you guys your own stories about things.

[19] And we're doing, these ones are all from London.

[20] Right.

[21] Yeah, because we'll be in the UK and Ireland for our tour coming up.

[22] Yeah, so we're getting, we're preparing emotionally, mentally, and then crime -wise.

[23] That's right.

[24] Do you have a good one to end on?

[25] Do you have a lighthearted?

[26] Yes.

[27] Okay, then can I go first and you end with that one?

[28] Sure, sure.

[29] These are all bad.

[30] But I don't, but I want to do them.

[31] Sure.

[32] Okay.

[33] Shaking things up a little.

[34] Yeah, I love it.

[35] Okay.

[36] Hometown, the one with all the murder.

[37] Dear Murder Honeys.

[38] I like it.

[39] I like it too.

[40] Yeah.

[41] I'm writing to you from London, England.

[42] Thank you for all the work you put into this podcast and always putting a smile on my face before work.

[43] I'd like to thank this person for putting England in because we do need those specificities.

[44] London, Tennessee?

[45] London, England?

[46] Anyways, my story.

[47] So my auntie was looking to buy a new flat in an area of London called Muswell Hill after I told her how lovely it was.

[48] It's where I've lived for a few years now.

[49] She went to view a flat at the same road as me and it was perfect.

[50] Beautiful space right at the top of a house.

[51] Nice and open, but it was weirdly affordable.

[52] Thinking there must be some kind of catch, duh.

[53] She asked the estate agent why it was so low price.

[54] He looked a bit shifty for a moment and said, yep, you guessed it.

[55] Well, I do need to tell you that this was the home of a serial killer.

[56] And went on to tell her all about it.

[57] The killer was nicknamed the Muswell Hill murderer, aka Dennis Nelson, aka the notorious British serial killer from the 80s.

[58] Definitely come across this guy a lot in my research.

[59] Did I not do this one?

[60] Did she do this one?

[61] Well, continue on, I'll let you know.

[62] Well, here we go.

[63] His victims were normally male, gay, and vulnerable or homeless.

[64] He would lure them back to his house with the promise of shelter and company and kill them afterwards, often taking part in weird rituals.

[65] Oh, no, I didn't do this one.

[66] Nelson would then dissect the bodies and keep the parts for long periods of time.

[67] For the smaller bones and flesh, he would just flush them down the toilet.

[68] Oh, right.

[69] That's actually how he got caught.

[70] The drain got completely blocked, obviously.

[71] and a plumber had to come out and take a look.

[72] The plumber took one look at the tiny bits of bone in the drain and immediately called his boss.

[73] Good.

[74] While they were looking into the drain, some of the tenants came to see what the problem was.

[75] Milsson being among them.

[76] Oh, sure.

[77] Who noted the little bones, quote, looked like KFC.

[78] Uh -huh.

[79] Oh, my God.

[80] Always, always.

[81] It's just KFC.

[82] Sir, why do you keep making suggestions of what these little bones could be?

[83] And who flushes KFC down the toilet?

[84] This is an art project.

[85] Sir, please keep your voice down.

[86] I'm trying to just look at this drain.

[87] You can't throw your voice, sir.

[88] There's four people here.

[89] There's four people here.

[90] It's you and a puppet and two other people.

[91] So we know it's you.

[92] The police recalled, and when they discovered that the drain pipe led directly to Nielsen's flat, they went to investigate.

[93] As soon as they entered the flat, they were overwhelmed by the smell of rotting flash.

[94] Apparently when the police asked Nielsen about the bones, he first feigned complete shock.

[95] What is?

[96] What's going on?

[97] Sure.

[98] But then shrugged and calmly stated that the rest of the bodies were in the war, robe.

[99] After Nielsen was taken into custody, they found parts of the bodies all over his flat, including the kitchen drawers and under the floorboards.

[100] He served around 20 years in prison and died there last year.

[101] Meadless to say, my aunt, he did not buy the flack.

[102] I think it's actually still in the market.

[103] Stay sexy and before buying a house.

[104] Maybe do some Googling.

[105] Florence.

[106] Shit.

[107] Okay, so that guy's the British Jeffrey Dahmer.

[108] Essentially.

[109] I've heard of, I've heard that case before.

[110] Yeah.

[111] But we haven't covered it.

[112] They need to just burn that house from the top up.

[113] You wouldn't buy it?

[114] No. Would it be crazy if I still bought it?

[115] I love a bargain.

[116] It's too many.

[117] It's too much.

[118] You're selling your soul.

[119] Yeah.

[120] The vibes would be minus one billion bad.

[121] Sage, man. No, there's not enough sage in all of the painted desert to solve this fucking problem.

[122] No way.

[123] Okay.

[124] Because it's, I think it's one thing when people, I mean, I don't, this is never a choice I will be making.

[125] But it's one thing when it's the location of a murder, this like a singular thing.

[126] But that would be the home of the person that continually preyed upon people who, like, everything about it is so negative of like needy people.

[127] He exploited needy people.

[128] He exploited people who didn't have anybody to fight for.

[129] them and then he desecrated their bodies so everything about that you want to see well now when you put it like that don't be near that block when you say it like that Karen stop moving in there every week I was closing it on escrow no I'll call your fucking real estate agent and say don't let her buy this flat on this road it's my stepfather my real estate agent John John I need to speak with you it's a business matter okay okay go here's my first one I'm not gonna read the subject line they give it away so it's just we'll say emt story hi steven georgia karen and assorted furry animals my friend introduced me to your podcast and i've obsessively been binging it from episode one to the point where my mother tried to stage an intervention not joking jokes on her what kind of tear -filled letters was that mom reading when it's like you just keep you your iPods are in your ears she's so religious you know it oh she thinks we're satanist it's an intervention of against podcasts which is like i could see it i could see where you would feel that is necessary where someone is completely checked out but you get so much done when you're listening to podcasts it's not like video games where you're just sitting and playing a video game you get put a podcast in that's right you get fucking life taken care of you learn things you get freaked out that's right you have experiences right then you meet other people who are having those experiences what's to intervene about then later on you can win at trivia on trivia night because you learn stuff from us that's right we're going to talk to that we're going to intervene and have an intervention with that mom we're going to see her when we go to the UK yeah we're going to swing by what if we gave her never mind too that gave her tickets intervention mom and then we'd be like look what we've done here okay I've lived in north London all my all my 18 years of life 18 so it's basically she's being a sulky teen and the mom's like stop ignoring me okay that's fair I don't know whose side to be on I'm on her mom's side I'm probably her mom's age so I'm on her side now we're gonna be like oh my god do you remember Duran Duran also here's why your here's why your child likes to listen to this shit it's good okay I've lived in North London all my 18 years of life and have yet experienced an acute lack of murders and yet and yet have experienced an acute lack of murders yeah I added like three extra words and that are not there that's how well I know you I figured it out Thank you.

[130] Yet have experienced an acute lack of murders.

[131] Can you see through this piece of paper?

[132] Okay.

[133] That being said, after listening to your minisode from around a year ago on EMT stories, I asked my dad, if he had any fun stories he could tell me from his early trainee doctor days.

[134] My parents are both doctors and fell in love during long nights working in A &E, which I made Stephen look up in its accident and emergency, which is the British version of an emergency room.

[135] And everyone knows the most romantic place in a hospital.

[136] you could possibly be in.

[137] Where anything can happen at any time.

[138] And you're a doctor, so you don't sleep and you don't eat, you basically don't do anything but be a doctor and be in doctor school.

[139] Yeah.

[140] And then, oh, now there's this other hot doctor that's kind of on the same level as you going through all the same shit.

[141] Yeah.

[142] Oh, my God, this is the love to last a lifetime.

[143] Reading this email, I got, like, excited like I had a crush on them as well.

[144] Okay, so they were bonding over their warped sense of humor.

[145] Huge, plus, plus, plus, yes.

[146] We want these people at our live show.

[147] Yeah.

[148] He said that there had been many gunshot wounds.

[149] A boy with, and here in America were like, uh -huh.

[150] Yeah.

[151] But over there, they're like, holy fuck.

[152] Not great.

[153] But, yeah, no, not great.

[154] A boy with his legs split open from scaling a fence.

[155] Oh, yie.

[156] A man who came in with a blocked nose that he had had for 24 years.

[157] What?

[158] Oh, my God.

[159] What was in it?

[160] My mom started laughing and asked what it was about that day that made him come in.

[161] So nothing was blocking it specifically.

[162] He had just waited that long.

[163] I know.

[164] Did you want it to be a big long scarf?

[165] Something.

[166] With his name knitted into the middle of it.

[167] There it is.

[168] Clark.

[169] See?

[170] You know that's what happened to my dad's friend Woody, right?

[171] No. He went out one day in the 80s to rototill the field on his tractor.

[172] And it was a really loud engine.

[173] So he stuffed, he just ripped up these rags and stuffed them into his ears.

[174] So that while he was doing it, he wouldn't.

[175] And forgot they were in there.

[176] And like a week later was like, I think I've gone deaf.

[177] And went to the murder.

[178] emergency room, and they took tweezers and just pulled these big, long, oily rags out of his ears.

[179] Oh, my God.

[180] He's looking to get a brain infection.

[181] For real.

[182] Oh, my.

[183] I love stories of weird places and not gross orifices.

[184] Yes.

[185] You know what I mean?

[186] Not private.

[187] Private parts.

[188] Red shoe diary style orifices, but more of just casual.

[189] Yeah, casual, I left something up there.

[190] Oh, I forgot I put this in here.

[191] Or like, oh, a swarm of bees took nests inside my nasal cavity.

[192] you know like stuff like that while I was asleep yeah okay okay so that was to name a few yes the best however was a man who came in with a machete embedded in his head the man in question that was what was in the subject line I didn't read you the man in question had apparently tried to rob a Chinese shop which the owner had not I don't know what that is who the owner had not taken kindly to and had retaliated by plunging a knife into his head what is most amazing about the story is that the man survived.

[193] The machete had been so sharp and had been plunged with such precision that it went directly through the man's head straight between the lobes of his brain causing him no long -term brain damage and he was actually conscious when he came in.

[194] Oh my God.

[195] Yeah.

[196] According to my mom, she said that she had seen the man, turned to my dad and said, so he's here for a tetan shot then?

[197] Yeah.

[198] You imagine.

[199] It's just when you're in love, you get so funny you want that person to love you so much everything is heightened so that it even a man walking with a knife in his head is like here's my chance here we go here's my chance watch this god i love these people okay um to which they both started laughing in front of the patient who was a very disgruntled and large gang member oh yeah they started dating soon after for the most part however it sounds like working in annie was pretty soul draining my parents took to walking into the waiting room and calling out the most inappropriate names they could without laughing just to pass the time.

[200] That's adorable.

[201] Isn't it the best?

[202] Even if this story doesn't make it past Stephen's screening, I hope someone finds it amusing.

[203] We did.

[204] Someone somewhere.

[205] Thank you so much for your podcast.

[206] They've really helped me through an incredibly tough time.

[207] I have another sort of hometown murder slash disappearance.

[208] I'll be sending in soon that I have the loosest links to.

[209] But if I forget or remember that I have A levels, I should be doing maybe you might want to look up.

[210] The Abduction of Madeline McCann.

[211] Oh, honey.

[212] We know that one.

[213] It's sort of the John Bonnet Ramsey of England and has become a kind of cult icon here.

[214] Yeah, we know.

[215] We know.

[216] Yeah, it's everywhere.

[217] Bye -E.

[218] Hana.

[219] Aw, Hannah.

[220] Isn't that the best?

[221] Yeah, that's a good 18 -year -old email.

[222] That's good feelings, 18 -year -old.

[223] We have to figure out if we can get a hold of Hanna.

[224] Hannah or Hanna?

[225] Well, it's H -A -N -N -E.

[226] Oh.

[227] Hawny?

[228] Han.

[229] Han Solo wrote us an email.

[230] Okay.

[231] We need to get this doctor -based family into the...

[232] Yeah.

[233] And get...

[234] Into fold.

[235] Interven.

[236] Right.

[237] Home town story.

[238] Hi, MFFCrew.

[239] I have been a fan of the podcast for the past few months, and it has made me relieved to know that I'm not alone in wanting to hear about grizzly murders and staying up at night thinking about them.

[240] Mm -hmm.

[241] My hometown story is from about a decade ago.

[242] And I remember hearing about it when I was around nine or ten years old.

[243] I live in a town called Horley and Surrey in England.

[244] And back in 2008, in England is on every one.

[245] They're just like, we just want to give you the island.

[246] We just want to give you all the information you need.

[247] Yeah, because we know you need it.

[248] My small town was shocked when we discovered that one of the chefs working at the most popular pub in town was a murderer and rapist.

[249] The chef was called Mark Dixie.

[250] And back in 2005, he attacked an 18 -year -old.

[251] woman called Sally Ann Bowman, in her own driveway and a completely random attack, just minutes after her boyfriend had dropped her at home.

[252] He was on a night out and saw her alone and took the opportunity to stab her seven times and rape her in the driveway.

[253] Jesus, but that wasn't off the top of his head.

[254] That's somebody that's done something like that before.

[255] The scumbag left her for dead and the case was unsolved for several months.

[256] It was about nine months later when he was arrested for having a fight in the pub he worked at.

[257] The pub is about a five -minute drive from where I live.

[258] and the police matched his DNA to the DNA found on Sally Ann's body.

[259] The thing that I find most chilling is the main piece of evidence which helped to convict him was that there was a film record.

[260] Oh my God, this is crazy.

[261] There was a film recording of him at work masturbating over a newspaper picture of Sally Ann.

[262] Oh, my God.

[263] Is that the most chilling, fucking horrible thing you've ever heard?

[264] So he's working in the back of a pub and the kitchen.

[265] Oh, my God.

[266] They got CCTV everywhere there.

[267] the poor CCTV whoever whatever person operator had to look through that and then discovered that and be like sorry what's this here that's horrifying okay the judge called it one of the worst murders he had ever seen the guy was sentenced to 34 years in prison but i hope they never let him out this story is quite notorious in my town because of the violent way in which this poor girl was killed honestly it gives me chills every time i think about it it's such a terrible story and i always remember it every time I get dropped off at home, I always ask for the person, a friend, taxi driver, to wait outside until I go in just because you never know who might use it as an opportunity to attack.

[268] Yes, always.

[269] Great advice.

[270] Walk, watch people, you don't have to walk, but watch people all the way in the door.

[271] That's right.

[272] Watch them take out their keys and enter their door and then wave and drive away.

[273] Shut it.

[274] Then get them to text you once they're inside, say the inside's clear.

[275] Yeah.

[276] Just keep checking.

[277] Shout out to my mom who loves a podcast and is also a huge fan.

[278] We love you guys.

[279] We love how you guys are highlighting the very real dangers that exist in the world whilst also bringing fun and laughter as well.

[280] Stay sexy, now get murdered.

[281] Georgia.

[282] Ooh, British Georgia.

[283] I didn't even notice that.

[284] British Georgia.

[285] British Georgia.

[286] What's British Georgia like Georgia?

[287] I wonder.

[288] American Georgia.

[289] Very proper.

[290] Unlike American Georgia.

[291] No burping?

[292] No. The subject line of this one is my hometown mystery of the dead man on the moor.

[293] Moors are so creepy.

[294] Dear O .G. Murdererinos.

[295] Perfect.

[296] Really sweet.

[297] Nice one.

[298] I've been wanting to write for some time, but as you have already covered my hometown murders, the infamous Moore's murders, I had to think further.

[299] Imagine being seven years old and being told about the five children around your age that were brutally murdered up the road on top of the surrounding hills that you love so much.

[300] A murderina was born.

[301] Love it.

[302] Anyhow, I thought you'd be interested in a mystery which gripped you.

[303] UK in 2015 and took place in my hometown Saddleworth, New England.

[304] No, old England.

[305] The oldest England.

[306] She wrote, or they wrote Northern England.

[307] Ah, Saddleworth, which is pronounced Syllworth or something.

[308] We'll find out later.

[309] In the morning of the 12th of December 2015, an older looking man was found dead on a path above Dovestone Reservoir, lying perfectly straight in the path with his arms crossed across with his arms across his chest it was freezing and the rain was torrential but he wore light clothes for the weather he had no identification on him at all or any personal artifacts that would tell people who he was or why he was here he did have a hundred 130 pounds all in 10 pound notes three train tickets from london to manchester the day before and a small blue cardboard medicine box the label was printed in both English and Urdu, so all pretty weird clues, and no one knew who he was.

[310] No one was able to identify him, even with the sketch of his face on the news, he was a mystery.

[311] The people at the morgue called him Neal, because apparently he looked like a Neal, that was in quotes, and Dovestone, after the name of the reservoir, where he was found.

[312] Police got to work investigating Neal, checking CCTV at the train stations and asking around the village.

[313] He had walked into the Clarence pub where I had my first ever job as the worst fucking ever, waitress known to person kind.

[314] Love it.

[315] Really want to hear those stories.

[316] Anyway, he asked how to get, how to quote, get to the top of the mountain, meaning the hillside of the moorland.

[317] The staff warned the man that he wouldn't get there and back before dark, but he asked them to repeat the directions and left anyway.

[318] Weird.

[319] Sounds like suicide, right?

[320] Well, even weirder, he died from strychnine poisoning.

[321] An archaic poison written about in Agatha Christie novels and currently banned in the European Union.

[322] Doesn't it sound like he's trying to establish an alibi by going in there and saying, tell me how to get to this weird place?

[323] To this one specific place.

[324] Now tell me again.

[325] Like, that sounds like you're going to remember me. Yeah, maybe.

[326] Maybe someone's following him.

[327] Oh, maybe.

[328] But why not just then say, while you tell me these directions.

[329] I have also another piece of information.

[330] Yeah, I can keep going.

[331] No, there's a lot of it.

[332] Okay.

[333] Why would someone kill themselves like that?

[334] And how did he even get that poison when it's banned over the whole continent and by now his face was all over the news in the UK why had no one come forward to identify him in an autopsy a titanium plate was found attached to his left femur strangely it didn't have a serial number but was branded by a company found in Pakistan through this police managed to identify him as David Leighton so not a Neil and saw that that was on the page and saw that he had flown 4 ,000 miles from Lahore Pakistan two days before he was found dead on a path on Saddleworth Moore.

[335] Police found out more about his identity, but until this day, no one knows the truth about his death.

[336] Did he return to the UK specifically to die by suicide?

[337] Then, why did he come to Saddleworth Moore?

[338] Why use strychnine?

[339] Who knows?

[340] Not me in all caps.

[341] Thank you so much for all that you do.

[342] Me and my partner love listening to your podcast and love being in the internet sub -communities that are only possible because of you both.

[343] Shout to macaborinos and smokerinos.

[344] Smokeerinos.

[345] Stay sexy and stay the fuck off the moors, Abby.

[346] Wow.

[347] So I like this one because it's recent and it's unsolved.

[348] And it's like this is the...

[349] Mystery.

[350] This is the culture we're going into.

[351] It's like this is on murderino's minds of what the hell was that.

[352] Yeah.

[353] And also to be found on the path like arms crossed, like placed.

[354] Yeah.

[355] Because if it was Strickney and they're saying, you know, know he has convulsions and stuff.

[356] And you would have writhed about and been in a lot of pain.

[357] You're right.

[358] So if you died, you would die, right?

[359] Like kind of fucked up looking like mid -seizure style.

[360] Did someone come along and do that?

[361] Like, there's no way.

[362] And also the rain, I bet, prevented any kind of like if there were fingerprints anywhere.

[363] Yeah, totally.

[364] Yeah.

[365] So that one's chilling.

[366] Thanks, Abby.

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[368] Absolutely.

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[386] Goodbye.

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[400] Goodbye.

[401] Okay, I'm not going to tell you the name of this one.

[402] MFM, Team, and Co. Sorry.

[403] I have to get my things together before I screw it all up.

[404] Okay.

[405] MFM Team and Company.

[406] Nice.

[407] That's good.

[408] I'm going to get straight to the good stuff.

[409] Good.

[410] Back in the 1970s, my dad and his family lived in Cambridge, And even though he was 20 or 21, he was still living at home.

[411] And then it says, the dream while he was dating my mom, who he met at a sixth form social.

[412] And then, thankfully for us, they wrote prom for the American audience.

[413] Yes, thank you.

[414] Thank you.

[415] Because that does not sound like prom.

[416] No. The previous year.

[417] Anyway, during 1974 and 75, the city was on high alert because some chap decided to break into people's homes and rape them.

[418] She called him a chap.

[419] She did call him a chap.

[420] it's a different culture yes he would then don a long blonde he would then don a long blonde wig and do a runner that means he took off he put a wig on and ran but i love and do a runner do a runner uh -huh okay managing to elude the police for two years before his capture so picture herself back in the summer of 1974 no idea if it was summer but that's how i imagine it when my mom told me the story and my dad's younger sister also still living at home is hanging out in the garden of their home which was on the outskirts of Cambridge and talking to the very affable son of their neighbors about, quote, these awful attacks happening to women in Cambridge and how bad it was, et cetera, et cetera.

[421] The neighbor's son agreed with her and discussed it for a while before finishing the conversation and going about their days.

[422] And a long blonde hair is on a sweater or something like that.

[423] No. Cut to a few months later when she found out he cut to a few months later when she found out she was shooting the shit with none other than the Cambridge rapist himself about his attacks.

[424] Holy fuck.

[425] I mean, seriously.

[426] Anyway, that's my parents' hometown murder, loving the podcast.

[427] It's literally my dream listening and so nice to feel like part of the MFM community.

[428] Stay sexy and don't trust your neighborhood kids, Sophia.

[429] Good advice, Sophia.

[430] Oh, my God.

[431] Oh, I love that idea that they're just in their British back gardens, hanging over the fence and being British drinking tea over the fence and having crumpets over the fence.

[432] And fucking boom, it's that person.

[433] I'm so scared.

[434] Can you believe this stuff is happening?

[435] Meas, I'm scared too and I'm not even a thing.

[436] That's how creepy the psychopaths are.

[437] You can't tell.

[438] You can't, the hair on the back of your arms probably won't go up.

[439] Because it's not long blonde hair.

[440] Because, ew.

[441] The long blonde hair on the back of your arm goes up.

[442] Yeah.

[443] Oh, it's, wow.

[444] The 70s, man. Okay.

[445] Okay, last one.

[446] The last one.

[447] It's a half and half.

[448] of a story and then some information, which I enjoy.

[449] Okay.

[450] Or like, just a hometown story.

[451] Hey, Huns, I'm on a holiday with my parents and recently listened to your crowd crush episode.

[452] I was, that was the one from the Who concert.

[453] Oh, yeah.

[454] Remember, I think Cincinnati.

[455] That was fucked up.

[456] Yeah, so fucked up.

[457] I was telling my parents about it, and my mom told us about an experience she had when she was a young thing.

[458] In the 19, in the mid -70s, she went to a teen.

[459] X -Rex concert in London.

[460] It was a tiny venue and there was a large crowd.

[461] People at the front would get crushed against the stage and pass out.

[462] So the security staff would just pluck them up and take them outside the venue.

[463] My granddad arrived to pick my mom up and was surprised to find rows of unconscious young women laid out on the pavement outside.

[464] He saw them coming around, looking confused, getting up, and stumbling right back on inside.

[465] What the fuck?

[466] Apparently this is a good, this was good.

[467] crowd control solution in the 70s and no one thought that anything bad would happen to an unconscious woman just left out on the street.

[468] Oh my god.

[469] My mom said she and her friend had seen how mad it was at the front so hung back a bit, which was probably a good idea.

[470] Yeah, a very good idea.

[471] But also they saw T -Rex live real time.

[472] Amazing.

[473] Amazing.

[474] Unbelievable.

[475] Okay.

[476] At a small venue.

[477] Yeah.

[478] Okay.

[479] As a sidebar, I just want to thank you guys for how open you are with talk about mental health and therapy.

[480] Last year, my younger sister was hospitalized as she was suicidal and my repressed English parents had to go from zero to trying to understand this real quick.

[481] You helped me see that therapy is normal and important and I've spoken to my parents a lot about it.

[482] I've seen them grow from depression does not exist to making sure I choose a health care policy with extensive mental health coverage.

[483] We now have open and honest conversations for the first time in my life and they've pushed me to seek help myself.

[484] telling me, well, your American murder ladies say it's good, so you should listen to them.

[485] Oh, no. Oh, my God.

[486] I've been seeing my psychologist for a few weeks now, and she's helped me so much already.

[487] We went through a lot of shit last year as a family, but we were starting to see life become more hopeful again.

[488] My sister is out of the hospital and in rehab and where she's thriving.

[489] I guess I just want to say thank you for making me laugh during the worst months of my life, and for helping me find the words to explain to my parents why it's good to talk to a professional.

[490] Also, Karen, as a fellow big -boobed lady, my girlfriends, and my girlfriends constantly harass my boobs, I feel yet.

[491] I've come to accept it as part of my life.

[492] Stay sexy and be kind to yourself.

[493] Filly.

[494] Isn't that the best?

[495] Yeah.

[496] Because that's kind of, I think, what's happening to a lot of people.

[497] The main reason I wanted to read that is because people get, have thoughts of violence people have go through things that become overwhelming and they can't deal with by themselves all of these things happen all the time to lots of people and this family who had never had to deal with it before adapted to current reality perfectly accepting it not fighting it not make blaming anybody or freaking out about pretending it doesn't exist yeah insisting that they can't face it they basically did the hardest thing I think for anybody which is face the shit that's actually happening to you and they did it and they're continuing it to do it I mean the idea that we get any credit at all is lovely and we like to be part of your story yeah we'll take it we'll take anything but you guys are the ones doing the hard work and it's very cool because that's the way that's the way through it and please say hi to your sister for us yeah we're proud of you guys yeah you're all doing really good that's awesome yeah um send us any story you feel like writing.

[498] Yeah, you know, we'll read it.

[499] If your story is a beginning and a middle and an end, yeah, you know, maybe some, some kind of interesting shit in the middle, too.

[500] It's trying to connect it to something, but still, we'd like to read it.

[501] Yeah, send it to my favorite murder at Gmail.

[502] Thanks for listening, guys.

[503] We can't wait to see you, Ireland and UK.

[504] It's so exciting.

[505] Yes, stay sexy.

[506] And don't get murdered.

[507] Go bye.

[508] Elvis, do you want cookie?