My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark XX
[0] This is exactly right.
[1] What's up?
[2] Everybody's lungs are totally healthy tonight.
[3] Our second and best night in Toronto.
[4] Good move, good move.
[5] They'll never notice that.
[6] I just want to start off by saying I woke up for my nap an hour ago.
[7] Yeah, Georgia.
[8] I fucked up.
[9] Georgia is the timely one.
[10] Georgia is the one that's the one that's the one always standing.
[11] like in front of the restaurant doors waiting for me as I roll up 17 minutes late that's the standard that we are adjusting to and trying to fix so as I was running out of my hotel room tonight at 608 or whatever like oh my God everyone's waiting for me and then I get a text from Vince Georgia just woke up you can go ahead and we'll send someone for her In three years, it's never happened.
[12] It's never happened.
[13] Shockingly, I'm surprised.
[14] So, you know, I do the thing.
[15] I get all my story ready and da -da -da -da -da.
[16] I'm going to take a nap.
[17] I'm also a little sick, so I'm a little high on cold meds.
[18] It's going to be great.
[19] I'm going to find, like, so much time for a nap.
[20] Vince says, okay, you know, Vince leaves to go to the venue, and then he says, meet us downstairs at 6 o 'clock.
[21] I say, great.
[22] And I set my alarm for 6 o 'clock.
[23] Oh, no. I like up to the fucking loud -ass hotel phone.
[24] And I'm like, and I look at the clock.
[25] and go, that doesn't make sense.
[26] And then it was Vince being like, where are you?
[27] What's going on?
[28] I have to say, I don't like the ring of a hotel phone.
[29] It's not good.
[30] When you pick that up, it's never like, hey, you're the best.
[31] It's always an emergency.
[32] Or you left something somewhere that you shouldn't have put it there.
[33] The thing you've been doing is bugging someone that's next to you.
[34] Or they're like, yeah, this credit card doesn't.
[35] wasn't worth.
[36] Like, why would they be, why would anyone call on a landline unless there's been a death in the family or you have to get out of the room because you have no money?
[37] Those are the only options.
[38] So it must have been a horrifying way to wake up.
[39] It was, but I fucking made it.
[40] Hence the pigtails, by the way.
[41] Hi.
[42] I would have, I was going to do a bouffant up to with it.
[43] You should see her back home.
[44] It's humongous.
[45] But instead, I look like a teenager from here and a vintage woman from here.
[46] Yeah.
[47] It's a great look.
[48] It's confusing.
[49] There's an attraction repulsion.
[50] People are like, whatever it is, I can't stop staring at her.
[51] You played your cards correctly, my friend.
[52] I'm going to start waking up 20 minutes before, after I have to leave again.
[53] Join me. Join me in late club.
[54] You know what's so weird.
[55] Is someone posted a photo?
[56] They came to the show last night, then they went vintage shopping today, or maybe something, and they found this fucking dress.
[57] No. Yes!
[58] I should have brought the photo.
[59] They found a...
[60] Who is it?
[61] It's a sweaty back?
[62] That shit's handmade.
[63] There's no way.
[64] There's no tag in then.
[65] No way.
[66] Yeah, I swear to God.
[67] It even has the same hole that I have.
[68] Yes.
[69] Is tonight the night you bust out?
[70] No. I love it.
[71] All right.
[72] I hate it yet.
[73] Well, I let's see.
[74] Can I just explain my outfit?
[75] No, that's okay.
[76] I really don't like it.
[77] I don't like it.
[78] I don't like it.
[79] I don't like it.
[80] I've only been performing for 25 years to get exactly that response for me. I don't like it.
[81] I wasn't paying attention to the time.
[82] So I spent so much time on my eyeliner and then realized that my hair, like Vince is like four minutes.
[83] and my hair was up in two weird clips to get it out of my face where I'm like, oh no, four minutes.
[84] It was the 90s look.
[85] It was like, it was me, three Zima's in.
[86] And then I just had to take down.
[87] I'm like, I think I'll just put a hand lotion in it?
[88] Like, that's what I do when I'm running late.
[89] And then also, so I was just like, get it down, try to smooth it out.
[90] And then as I'm going, I'm like, oh, I have blush like a doll right now.
[91] All right, well, we got to go anyway.
[92] You got to scream it to the balcony, the blush.
[93] Oh, yeah, this is for you guys.
[94] It's all for you.
[95] It's all for you.
[96] They're like, she looks healthy, and everyone down there's like, she has rosacea.
[97] It's not healthy.
[98] We should have a, like, first five rows, no photos.
[99] Yeah, that'd be great.
[100] I love when people post photos like, we met people last night.
[101] I'm like, you didn't have to post that photo of me. How about you, if you really loved me, you Photoshopped me out of every fucking photo.
[102] I'm almost 50 for fuck's sake Give me a break Speaking of, this is my favorite murder the podcast Oh yeah, hi welcome Karen Kilgarev This is Georgia Hardstock We're so So proud to be in a different country Yep Oh also Just really quick to explain these Jews I just remembered these too That's how quickly I get used to things normally I wear a pair of clogs that my sister hates because she hates them that's how I do fashion um it's like a the first live show we did I was wearing these clogs and my sister was there and saw them and was like you're not fucking wearing those on stage and I'm like now I'm wearing them forever and I really have worn them since we started touring and when we were in Detroit I left them at the theater and I did the man was going to drive back and get them.
[103] And I'm like, those things are gross.
[104] First of all, I don't want you to touch them that much.
[105] Unsupervised.
[106] And also, that's terrible.
[107] It's like freezing cold.
[108] I was like, you know what?
[109] I must have subconsciously not wanted those clogs no more.
[110] Please don't go get them for me. I mean, before we went on stage, you said, I need to get rid of these.
[111] I did.
[112] So, and you did, and you got rid of it, and then I did it.
[113] And then I put on my, um, my, my, um, my, um, um, um, my, um, um, um, um, um, my, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, that also secretly have planter fasciitis inserts inside of them.
[114] Because I'm 70.
[115] And, uh, but at least this dress has pockets.
[116] Yeah, love it.
[117] Good luck players.
[118] Love the move.
[119] Loving it.
[120] Um, what else?
[121] You know what my dad did?
[122] What?
[123] My dad's watching the cats right now.
[124] Uh, thank you.
[125] Thank you.
[126] Marty already asked Vince if he has a pot grinder somewhere in the house.
[127] But, you know, dads, he fucking somehow figured out a way to make the Wi -Fi stop working.
[128] It's like in a corner, there's no way unless he touched it.
[129] And there's no reason.
[130] Anyways.
[131] Is this a pot grinder?
[132] Because he uses Mimi, we get back.
[133] She just got to pop and her fucking, no, I can't watch my cat's on the cat camera anymore.
[134] And I'm just, I know, it's really upsetting.
[135] I'm just going with it.
[136] Yeah, just go with it.
[137] I'm hoping my dad's not super high.
[138] Oh, he is.
[139] Oh, he totally is.
[140] He's probably gone onto the roof and unplugged the Wi -Fi.
[141] Is this what you were asking about?
[142] Why do we give him that voice?
[143] He doesn't talk like that at all.
[144] I'm doing the Elizabeth Holmes voice from Theranos.
[145] Oh, yeah.
[146] We're going to change the world.
[147] One drop of blood.
[148] One drop of blood.
[149] If you haven't listened to the Dropout, you have to listen to the podcast, the drop out.
[150] It's amazing.
[151] If you're listening to it right now, take your headphones out.
[152] Yeah, stop it.
[153] This is time for our podcast.
[154] It's a different podcast altogether.
[155] Not that bitch's podcast.
[156] Whatever she made that podcast.
[157] Okay, whatever.
[158] She's just here.
[159] Oh, quick corrections corner.
[160] I ripped everybody off for 10 years.
[161] I stole $9 billion, quick corrections corner.
[162] From a bunch of old men who should have fucking known about her.
[163] Actually, it would be a genius if she had a podcast.
[164] Should we sit down?
[165] Do you want to?
[166] I guess.
[167] Let's do it.
[168] Oh, hold on.
[169] Because remember the bit we always do, we were like, Stephen.
[170] Oh, yeah.
[171] We always do that.
[172] Hi, Toronto.
[173] I got this DeGrasi sweater for free, and I was like, if I don't wear it, what would I be doing?
[174] Amazing.
[175] Such a good move.
[176] Yeah.
[177] Mani's my favorite character.
[178] Yeah.
[179] Hi, Toronto.
[180] All right.
[181] Stephen, everybody.
[182] I mean, what more do you say when you come out in a fucking DeGrosi?
[183] You don't upstate yourself with your own sweatshirt.
[184] Or mustache.
[185] I just love that in every other live show that we do, we always reference Stephen, and then people yell Stephen, and then we're like, he's not here tonight, and everyone goes, uh, and it's like this wonderful call and response that we've all practiced.
[186] You're not really disappointed.
[187] But for you, Toronto, we brought him live.
[188] We didn't really bring him on life.
[189] Okay, now we can see.
[190] Okay, these are the Anderson Cooper Andy Cohen chairs that they get delivered to every city they do a show in and leave behind for us to put our butts in.
[191] That's right.
[192] It's great.
[193] It sounds like gossip, but it's true.
[194] Do you want to talk about stuff?
[195] Do you want to tell everyone?
[196] Do you want to tell them what this podcast is?
[197] Of course I do.
[198] This is the part where we explained everybody that this is a true crime comedy podcast.
[199] And there's some people that get very upset by that combination.
[200] They think it's offensive.
[201] They think that we're making jokes about people who have been murdered.
[202] They don't listen and they don't know us.
[203] And you brought them.
[204] That's right.
[205] For some reason, you insisted that they come to a show that they don't understand and that they're not interested in.
[206] Thank you so much for that.
[207] Great.
[208] That's why I don't wear my glasses on stage.
[209] So I don't, every 50th person see a face that's like, I don't care about pockets in your dress.
[210] It's like, I should start wearing glasses.
[211] so I don't have to see that because I can really see the mixes of the first 20 rows.
[212] It's really disarming.
[213] But I'm just basically saying this to say that there are people who think that, they don't understand that really what this is is it's two women who have been obsessed with true crime for a really long time like all our friends.
[214] And this is a thing we already talk about, but personality -wise, the comedy part is just who we are as people.
[215] It's how we converse.
[216] It's how a lot of people in this world deal with the horrifying shit in the world by laughing, by using humor, by letting off the steam.
[217] So if you just happen to be one of those kind of people that thinks it's offensive, you can get the fuck out right now.
[218] I'm making that speech longer and longer, and pretty soon I'm going to ask for like a ladder and a spotlight and it's going to turn into my one woman show.
[219] We get it.
[220] We've heard you say this 80 fucking times.
[221] And while we're at it, we know the hometown rules.
[222] No, you don't.
[223] Because clearly.
[224] It always comes out.
[225] Clearly, you don't.
[226] Sorry, we yelled at you.
[227] Actually, the gal last night was wonderful, so we're not mad at you.
[228] Of course, because we're in Canada.
[229] Yeah, because you guys listen.
[230] Yes.
[231] You're smart and you tell good stories.
[232] That girl was like, I wanted to back up and just be like, it's your podcast now.
[233] Do it.
[234] Karen, you know I'm all about vintage shopping.
[235] Absolutely.
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[253] Goodbye.
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[269] Goodbye.
[270] I go first.
[271] Okay, great, go first.
[272] Okay.
[273] Here we go.
[274] I'd actually like to start off with a quick book report.
[275] This is my report on the province of Ontario, Canada.
[276] In the past, there have been times where I showed that I didn't know that much about the province of Ontario, Canada.
[277] or maybe nothing at all.
[278] But I've worked to change that, and I want to show that to you right now.
[279] The Canadian province of Ontario is one of Canada's 13 provinces and territories.
[280] It is the second largest province in land area and the largest in total population.
[281] Ontario is home to the nation's capital city, Ottawa, and the nation's...
[282] represent and the nation's most populous city Toronto which is also Ontario's provincial capital the name Ontario is derived from from the Iroquois word meaning beautiful water Ontario was settled by the Algonquian tribes in the north and west yeah and the Iroquois and Wai ando Yoron in the south and east.
[283] The official language of Ontario is English.
[284] Ontario, the Canadian province, is not to be confused with the California city of Ontario, which was named after the Canadian province, Ontario.
[285] Which is definitely where I am right now.
[286] I know that for a fact.
[287] That I do know.
[288] The official flower of Ontario is white trillium.
[289] The official bird is the common loon.
[290] And the official website is www.
[291] www.
[292] ontario .ca.
[293] Yes.
[294] Please, please accept my apology, Canadian province of Ontario.
[295] I am so sorry.
[296] There's a little dig at the end.
[297] Just to show them.
[298] Just to show them.
[299] If we do this for every city a week, do shows and we're going to get so much better in 22 years.
[300] Oh, yeah.
[301] Right?
[302] Yeah, it'll also be half the shows are us apologizing to the place we're in.
[303] Or just to words.
[304] The word attic has two T's and ends in a sea.
[305] And I'm still mad about it.
[306] It doesn't make sense.
[307] It's truly stupid.
[308] I am going to go outside of the province of Ontario, Canada, tonight, so I can tell you all about the Ant Hill Kids cult.
[309] Really?
[310] Okay.
[311] You guys aren't into cults as much as we.
[312] Well, you must be because this is fucked up.
[313] So let's see.
[314] I got a lot of this information from, of course, our best friend, Wikipedia.
[315] And then our secret lover, MurderPedia.
[316] Which is, we talk a lot about donating to Wikipedia.
[317] Murderopedia is the shit.
[318] I'm sure you all know this already, but you could also donate to that if you feel like it or have extra money.
[319] Who among us?
[320] um there's a netflix movie called savage messiah about this and there's a youtube crime documentary called the rock terrio it's called the rock terrio there that must be wrong anyhow but the reason i'm doing it is because um i actually prepped it to do um another time and maybe when we were in montreal one time and uh Thank you.
[321] Thank you.
[322] I made it all the way to French, too, in high school.
[323] Really rock that accent.
[324] But it's so awful that I was like, I can't do it.
[325] It's awful.
[326] And then last night, a girl named Jen with two ends gave me a book.
[327] Oh, that's why you were like, I need a book.
[328] Yes, I like snatched it up.
[329] She was like, I thought you would, and I was like, give it to me right now.
[330] It's a book called The Cult Files by Chris Michael, M -I -K -U -L.
[331] and this book is written for me so it's like say 12 chapters but the print is really big each cult has like five pages or six pages dedicated to it so you can like get in and out real fast again nobody gets hurt no everyone gets hurt everyone gets hurt actually in this book you can't make it in unless a bunch of people get terribly fucking hurt kind of the nature of cults But it actually, it's just like, the second I stopped reading about this one, it, it's, I turned the page and then it's like, the, you know, it was like people in the jungle or whatever.
[332] And then it was fucking Jonestown.
[333] We were just on to the next one.
[334] It was awesome.
[335] So get that book.
[336] If you also have reading ADD like I do.
[337] And thank you, Jen, for giving me a book.
[338] All right.
[339] So the Ant Hill Kids cult was started by a man named Rock Terrio.
[340] Let's just take a look.
[341] Do we?
[342] Oh, no. Oh, no. He's got the piercing blue eyes of a psychopath.
[343] Yeah?
[344] He's got a mustache comb over.
[345] I mean, truly, it's like blinds over his lips.
[346] What if most of that beard is actually mustache?
[347] Because he has beard, just, I'm saying entertain it.
[348] He has beard baldness, and he's like, I got to.
[349] a makeup for my lack of beard.
[350] And when he wants to eat, he has to use like butterfly clips to clip the back.
[351] The two clips I had in my hair.
[352] Almost came out in.
[353] That's right.
[354] He just clips them back.
[355] All right.
[356] I bet that beard smells.
[357] That's all I can ever think of when I see a dude with a big beard.
[358] Yeah.
[359] I bet it smells.
[360] Also, it's like there's, it's almost like a mullet situation, but it's party in the front and party in the back.
[361] Yeah.
[362] It's just party, party, party, party, party.
[363] It's a huge party.
[364] No party on top.
[365] It happens.
[366] By the whole.
[367] Yeah.
[368] Okay.
[369] So this is our friend Rock Terrio.
[370] It is not spelled like that at all.
[371] That's fucking...
[372] Oh, I see.
[373] Okay.
[374] Oh, I get it.
[375] Yeah.
[376] R -O -C -H.
[377] And that's...
[378] I had to write it phonetically for myself.
[379] I literally on every page it says, Rock like a Rock.
[380] Terry -O like SpaghettiOs.
[381] Wow.
[382] Because every time I'm like, Therolo?
[383] I thought...
[384] I thought you were trying to say something like rock tober, all rock tober long, like on a radio station, rock, you know?
[385] You're just confused?
[386] Totally confused.
[387] Just letting me. And I didn't look slightly to the right of his face.
[388] Right.
[389] Because why would I?
[390] Because that mustache is hypnotic.
[391] Look at it.
[392] It's also just a shade lighter than the beard.
[393] Uh -huh.
[394] It's because it's in the sun.
[395] It's like, he just suns it.
[396] He sons himself.
[397] He puts the reflective thing underneath it.
[398] And then puts copper, copper tone five on top.
[399] The lemon juice in there, so it'll sun in.
[400] Yep.
[401] And then he does just the light highlights, little bleat strips, some chunky, before the bits.
[402] Okay.
[403] He did an ombre when that was in.
[404] He takes care of his shit, that's what we're saying.
[405] Try it, guys.
[406] Guys, rock terrio.
[407] Rocktober is the best month of the year.
[408] We're going to be playing the rock jasms all night long.
[409] Okay.
[410] Stop it, Karen.
[411] Quit it, Georgia.
[412] He quit it.
[413] He was born on May 16th, 1947, in Saguenay, Quebec?
[414] Sauguenay.
[415] Saginaw.
[416] No, it's not fucking Saginaw.
[417] It's a fucking, some American up here, translating incorrectly.
[418] leading us down the primrose path.
[419] Of course she's fucking Canada -splaining to you.
[420] Yes.
[421] How dare you, French -splain anything to me?
[422] We're going to call it the Segway, Quebec.
[423] Because of what you've done.
[424] From age six, he is raised in a town called Thetford Mines, which, you'll like this, was built over the world's largest deposit of asbestos.
[425] Your favorite.
[426] I love asbestos.
[427] It is the funniest thing that I'm not okay.
[428] Truly.
[429] I just wonder, first of all, I feel like this whole story could go in a totally different direction.
[430] If a town is built over the largest natural deposit of asbestos, everyone goes asbestos crazy.
[431] You've got a horror movie right there.
[432] Like, why do I have to do all the fucking work?
[433] Anyhow.
[434] but that's not it it does it's this is definitely turning into a horror movie but it's not asbestos related okay we're going to write that one stephen write that down Stephen please make several notes on the back of your digrosi sweatshirt you know it's so funny what's weird to me is because I always feel so old when like when the youngsters talk about the things that they love and I'm always like I've never heard of that and I don't care um is usually my I don't say it out loud that's my internal you actually do you don't know that you say it oh Yeah, you kind of mutter it to yourself.
[435] Can you give a hand signal when I'm doing that?
[436] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[437] Just let me know.
[438] Sorry, I'll let you know.
[439] Who cares?
[440] But we, when I was in high school, that was the thing me and my friend Lisa Lanyon loved to do, was walk home to her house because she lived near the high school.
[441] And then we would, sorry.
[442] I just had a side memory to this memory.
[443] Oh, no. where she and I, after high school, went and had dinner with her dad and his new wife after her mom died.
[444] So it was a very sad, it was very sad, and then immediately her dad got remarried.
[445] And no one knew what to do.
[446] Or no, sorry, started dating.
[447] So this woman was his girlfriend.
[448] He did get remarried very soon.
[449] But he started dating, like, very quickly after her mom died.
[450] And we were all just kind of like, what?
[451] This is weird.
[452] So she called me and was like, you have to come over because my dad's girlfriend.
[453] is coming over for dinner and I don't know what to do.
[454] So I was like, I'll be there, don't worry about it.
[455] Well, we are offered wine at the top of the evening.
[456] And I'm like, it is on.
[457] We get so fucking drunk at this dinner.
[458] I mean, like, if there was video, I wouldn't be able to watch it because it was insane.
[459] We were kids wine.
[460] We were coping.
[461] Well, we were like 18, 19 maybe.
[462] You know.
[463] We were all just trying to get through a bad time.
[464] Sure.
[465] It wasn't even my bad time, but I was like, we're going to get through this, everybody, give me more wine.
[466] By the time dinner's over, her dad has made everybody the dessert, Bananas Foster.
[467] And we go in to help him serve it to his new girlfriend and her son.
[468] I just remembered he was there.
[469] And Bananas Foster, whatever this dessert he was making, was like this fancy glass with, like, ice cream.
[470] and bananas, and then he poured some liquor on it, and as he's pouring the liquor, I yell, less bananas, more foster.
[471] And then we said that to each other for 15 years.
[472] That confusing anecdote that must make no sense to you right now is because Lisa and I would go home every day after school and watch DeGrosi Jr. High like it would.
[473] When Spike got pregnant Oh my fucking God I love her But we had all these choices And it was like we picked something We were just like We don't even really care about It wasn't like we loved it It was like we were Like we had to do it And then after a while We became addicted Where it was like our soap opera And we would talk about it all the time But in the beginning we'd just be like What the fuck is this?
[474] Who are these people?
[475] And then after a while it's all we did Yeah, it's a good show.
[476] Two terrible stories.
[477] My guarantee to you.
[478] Terrible stories all night long.
[479] Okay.
[480] Thank you.
[481] I hate that.
[482] Okay.
[483] So Rock's parents are named Hyacith.
[484] That's the dad.
[485] And Pierrette.
[486] Pierrette.
[487] That's the mom.
[488] Okay.
[489] They're devout Catholics.
[490] And so, of course, he has seven brothers and sisters, because that's how Catholics do it.
[491] Right.
[492] He's a very intelligent child, drops out of school in the seventh grade, which is kind of common.
[493] Like, none of his brothers or sisters had educations past junior high.
[494] What more is there to know?
[495] I mean, once you get out of junior fucking high, what more do you need another?
[496] You're done.
[497] You've got the presidents memorized, or leaders, you're leaders.
[498] You know the landmass of Ontario.
[499] You're done.
[500] He begins to teach himself.
[501] And to spite the rest of the time.
[502] of his family who only speaks French, he learns English.
[503] He seems like a real asshole.
[504] Yeah, what a show off.
[505] But he also begins to read the Old Testament, and he gets super into it because he loves all the apocalyptic end of the world shit that's in the Old Testament.
[506] It's pretty fucking cool.
[507] Right?
[508] Like most tweens, he loves the idea of the end of the world.
[509] Okay, so his father is an ultra -conservative Catholic who belongs to a group called the White Berets.
[510] Anyone here tonight from the white parades?
[511] We love your hats.
[512] He made Rock and his brothers and sisters march around town with him, military style through their neighborhood, knocking on doors, asking for donations for the group, and passing out pamphlets for them.
[513] And he was so humiliated by that, and he hated being bust around like that so much that he hated Catholicism.
[514] The whole thing infuriated him.
[515] and also of course other kids made fun of him for having to wear a white beret which is so embarrassing not the theater kids they supported him entirely but the other the jocks were mean so so this was basically a breaking point for him so he would later on tell stories of horrible abuse at the hands of his father saying his father was an alcoholic and that he was so vicious and abusive to him that he would have to have to run into the nearby forest and while he was there he met and froliced with bears Canadian bears are nice Canadian bears are so polite they're constantly apologizing they have the best kit cats he also told people later on that he was paralyzed from age 6 to 8 that when he was seven he had a vision where he was playing St. Joseph in a theatrical production and then later he did play St. Joseph in a theatrical production.
[516] That's just like a wish and a hope and then you follow through with it.
[517] Yeah, that's called The Secret, actually.
[518] It's not your cult, dude.
[519] That's an Australian lady's cult.
[520] But he claimed that that meant that he was psychic and that he understood medicine.
[521] Oh, no, wait, sorry, that's another claim.
[522] That's not connected.
[523] He thought, oh, that, okay, didn't make any sense.
[524] So I was like, let's make the sense of this.
[525] St. Joseph loves doctors?
[526] Maybe.
[527] He thinks he understands medicine.
[528] He believes he has the ability and tells people he has the ability to mend arms and legs.
[529] Oh, broken arms and legs.
[530] They have to be broken.
[531] They can't just be gross.
[532] Okay.
[533] All of this, of course, are lies.
[534] Lies, lies.
[535] He has a very standard childhood and friends, family, neighbors say they never saw hyacinth Tarot, Terrio raises voice, abuses kids that that just simply wasn't the case.
[536] But the father did admit later to having to discipline Rock because he was, quote, a manipulative and incorrigible liar who refused to accept responsibility for his actions.
[537] So like whenever he was caught drinking or smoking or doing anything, he would just argue and then blame one of his siblings.
[538] Nothing was ever his fault.
[539] And so there's all these stories of manipulative and callous behavior, and many psychologists believe that he, from a young age, suffered from a narcissistic personality disorder.
[540] Fun.
[541] Right?
[542] All that in a white beret.
[543] Pictured in your mind.
[544] Oh, what a little shit.
[545] I'm thinking of Rushmore now, the movie Rushmore.
[546] Seeing him.
[547] Yeah.
[548] If the kid from Rushmore had just a terrible beard.
[549] Oh, we can turn that off.
[550] Can we?
[551] No wonder you're so upset.
[552] Okay.
[553] And also, they say that the myth -making lies are a way to, like, he was trying to prove his superiority over others, over regular people, which is a common tactic among cult leaders.
[554] But the thing is, he was really charismatic and charming, and...
[555] Red flag, always.
[556] Always.
[557] If you like someone, you're wrong.
[558] He would go to dance halls around town, around asbestos town, and drink and pick up women.
[559] That was like his jam.
[560] He was very charming and persuasive, and he believed that his blue eyes, intelligence, and large penis meant that everyone wanted to listen to him talk all the time.
[561] I mean, you don't even have to talk anymore.
[562] Shut up.
[563] That's the thing.
[564] How about you zip it?
[565] He basically was an attention whore, and he didn't care.
[566] He was just, like, out there to hold forth and be like, what's up, and then get late.
[567] So, when he's 20, he basically gets himself the prettiest girl at the dance hall.
[568] She's his 17 -year -old named Francine Grenier, and in 1967, he marries her.
[569] They have two children, and he's a really talented woodworker, so he makes them a house out of of pine.
[570] So he's not so bad.
[571] Pine trees hate him, though.
[572] Not to pine trees.
[573] That forest, those bears that now have no trees to rub their back against?
[574] We were your friends.
[575] We gave you Kit Katz.
[576] What the fuck, bro?
[577] We cavorted with you.
[578] Page three.
[579] He gets a job.
[580] Even though he's a talented blood worker, he gets a job as a chimney inspector.
[581] Because that's his passion.
[582] Okay.
[583] Okay, but here's another turning point.
[584] In 1970, he gets, he has an operation because he has really bad duodenal ulcers.
[585] Don't ask me. Okay.
[586] And he has to have a large part of his stomach and some intestines removed.
[587] Oh, fuck that.
[588] Right?
[589] I don't know.
[590] I wouldn't mind it.
[591] There's a little weight.
[592] Yeah.
[593] And just, no, suddenly salads are really satisfying.
[594] Never.
[595] Um, so this is when a family and friends say his personality changed.
[596] So he's in, because he's in constant pain.
[597] Okay.
[598] He also can't digest food very well.
[599] So he begins like binge drinking.
[600] I can't blame him.
[601] So he obsesses on his health.
[602] He starts reading medical textbooks that might be connected to his, I can fix arms and legs from childhood.
[603] He was basically being a Google doctor, but back then.
[604] Yes.
[605] What was wrong with me?
[606] So he is a visionary in a lot of ways.
[607] Um, but here's, he reads medical tax books.
[608] Then he starts telling everybody he has cancer.
[609] And that's like a weird way he gets attention from people too, which is talk about a fucking dark blood red flag.
[610] Like people lying about shit like that.
[611] Oh my God.
[612] No, go back to the forest.
[613] So, oh, and he also, so he stops paying attention to his wife and kids.
[614] His narcissistic tendencies are off the charts.
[615] He loses his job as a chimney inspector.
[616] Oh.
[617] And no. That was the final blow.
[618] They're like, get off that roof.
[619] You're done.
[620] Get your head out of that chimney.
[621] Stop looking at it.
[622] No. Look away.
[623] Then he starts telling people that his insides are made of plastic.
[624] That's a bit of a jump.
[625] They're like, we were totally on board with your cancer.
[626] Yeah, that was fine.
[627] Wait a minute.
[628] How does plastic get cancer?
[629] It only gives it.
[630] Okay, so.
[631] Then, phase two, he becomes obsessed with sex, more so.
[632] So he had once been very controlling with his wife and saying you have to wear long skirts and be very, dress very low -key, cover yourself up.
[633] Now he insists that she wear short skirts and tight clothes and show herself off.
[634] And she's like, bitch, get a job.
[635] How about you don't worry about my skirt?
[636] She didn't say that.
[637] She actually, the family went on welfare, and she actually got a job as a waitress and was the only form of income for their family.
[638] Because, of course, he's drinking all the time, and then he starts making wooden beer mugs.
[639] Okay.
[640] Imagine it.
[641] I'm thinking it.
[642] Bring it to your lips.
[643] Nope.
[644] Pull it away fast.
[645] Oh, I have your splinter mouth.
[646] That's what they call you now.
[647] No. Linder mouth.
[648] I have an idea.
[649] I'm going to do the thing no one's ever done for a really good reason.
[650] Go ahead and make wooden cups.
[651] Wooden lip.
[652] Lip cups.
[653] Lip -specific cups.
[654] They are a little bit popular in Quebec City.
[655] Not enough to make a living, but enough, right?
[656] You guys, you love wooden cups and shit.
[657] You just love splinters.
[658] So he says he has to go out and sell these cups all the time, but of course he's cheating on his wife, he's down at the dance hall, he's doing that shit that he loves to do so much.
[659] Hold forth, have a big dick, whatnot.
[660] So in 1975, somehow, amidst all of this, he gets a seat on the city council.
[661] Because of course, when you're a super narcissist psycho, you want to get into politics.
[662] We all know that.
[663] And, like, I think every politician, there's charming fucking people.
[664] Yes.
[665] Narcissists.
[666] Narcissist, if not.
[667] Well, at least in our country.
[668] We're not going to get into this right now, but fuck Trump.
[669] Okay.
[670] I mean.
[671] Truly.
[672] I mean, seriously.
[673] Truly.
[674] I should have said that at the beginning, too.
[675] He runs for city, gets a seat on the city council.
[676] At first, they think he's really smart.
[677] He's memorized the municipal code book.
[678] which I'm sure no one else did.
[679] So he's like, ask me about page 63.
[680] God, he sounds so annoying.
[681] So boring.
[682] So he's informed, genuinely concerned about the town's issues.
[683] But over time, of course, they see he's out of his mind.
[684] Because he goes on these long rants and temper tantrums that make the city council meetings go on for hours.
[685] And they're all insanely relieved when he stops showing up for the meetings in 1976.
[686] They're just like, is the beard here?
[687] So Francine, his wife is of course just so sick of his shit and then the final straw is when Rock asks his in -laws if they wouldn't mind if he set up a nudist colony on the land that they have.
[688] Wow.
[689] Francine's like, and we're done.
[690] Goodbye.
[691] So she leaves him.
[692] But Rock, yeah, but he still manages to stay popular around town and in 1977 he meets a girl at a dance hall named Giselle Tremblay.
[693] He charms her with his sad story saying, A, he's dying of cancer, and B, his wife is cheating on him.
[694] So just hot, hot, hot, hot.
[695] Like, oh my God, are you a pickup artist with these lines?
[696] Cancer, you say?
[697] Hold on.
[698] She loves it.
[699] She quits her job, and they start traveling around selling wooden mugs.
[700] How quickly was she like?
[701] like, oh, shit.
[702] She's in that van, like, what's that smell?
[703] Oh, it's the beard.
[704] The photo?
[705] No, I just figure he must, that guy had a van.
[706] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[707] There's no way he did.
[708] For sure.
[709] He actually, if your beard grew this long in 1976, they gave you a van.
[710] His drinking gets worse because of his plastic stomach pain.
[711] And then he becomes interested.
[712] He starts reading up on the occult, and he joined.
[713] a Catholic -affiliated society called the Aramis Club.
[714] But then he becomes ahead of their initiation committee.
[715] But when he suggests they wear capes with a picture of Satan on them, everybody freaks out.
[716] Do they freak out or they say there's no picture of Satan?
[717] There's no way we can put that on him.
[718] We don't know what he looks like.
[719] Then he pulls out a can of deviled ham and goes, uh -uh -uh, there he is right there.
[720] Oh, my God.
[721] He points out a child at Halloween.
[722] Oh, wait, is it true that up here, oh, you might not know, because I heard this happens in Winnipeg.
[723] That in Winnipeg, okay, represent.
[724] In Winnipeg at Halloween, little kids, instead of saying trick -or -treat, they go, Halloween apples.
[725] No. No. Do you not want them to, or are you saying that?
[726] No, they would never in their lives.
[727] We're getting a, I'm getting, I don't really care.
[728] 18 rows back, I can, yeah.
[729] Why in God's name would I ask this question?
[730] Who thinks yes and who thinks no?
[731] Okay.
[732] Apples.
[733] That was just someone pulling my leg, my Canadian leg.
[734] All right.
[735] They really got you.
[736] They really got you.
[737] They got me good.
[738] In Winnipeg.
[739] I've been humiliated in Toronto about Winnipeg.
[740] Okay.
[741] So this is.
[742] another great turn.
[743] In 1977, the Seventh -day Adventists come to town, and they're recruiting very heavily, and he decides he's going to convert from Catholicism to Seventh -day Adventism.
[744] So what he likes is they have very strong holistic beliefs that basically, like, what you put into your body, like, it's all about health and wellness.
[745] So he becomes a vegetarian.
[746] He stops drinking, He stops eating processed food.
[747] He stops smoking.
[748] And he also, of course, is interested in their doomsday beliefs because it essentially has some similar thinking to a doomsday cult.
[749] That's how it was initially established.
[750] All I know now is that they get Saturdays off, which I think is unfair.
[751] Because when I worked at the gap, there was a guy who was like, oh, sorry, I can't work this weekend.
[752] I'm seventh day at Venice.
[753] And I was like, fucking me too then.
[754] So he loves the doomsday element, his childhood passion.
[755] He gets baptized, stops smoking and drinking, and he becomes a seventh -day Adventist, like, top recruiter.
[756] So this is a thing they did in the 70s.
[757] The 7th Day Adventist would open five -day stop -smoking clinics.
[758] And that's, they would get people in who just wanted to stop smoking.
[759] But then they'd be like, have you heard the good word about the end of the world?
[760] People would be like, what's that?
[761] And then you're like, well, I'm just going to fucking smoke then.
[762] Exactly.
[763] Why would I quit smoking?
[764] Yeah.
[765] They're like, also, do you have any heroin?
[766] What do we do?
[767] Thank God we have an albutrin now to quit smoking.
[768] So he, in running these clinics, he's really good at it.
[769] And then he realizes it's really easy for him to convert people to his way of thinking.
[770] And he's like, I'm not going to help people stop smoking.
[771] I want my own church.
[772] And that's where he gets the idea to get his own followers.
[773] So he invites a small group of fellow Adventists to come to.
[774] his girlfriend, Chazelle's apartment, and he preaches to them for hours on end.
[775] Oh, great.
[776] He's just telling them the municipal code.
[777] Oh, wait, wrong one, wrong, wrong.
[778] He's checking all his big books that he loves to read.
[779] This is from Psalms.
[780] You may not cross the sidewalk on Sunday.
[781] Is that a municipal code?
[782] Saturday is a burn day.
[783] and you're all going to burn in hell that's a municipal apocalypse right there okay for some reason no one leaves the apartment could you imagine getting invited over for like a seventh day at Venice hang and then suddenly that guy has the floor for five hours you'd just be like it's too awkward to like get up and leave stay for the whole thing is you trapped you're like he won't break eye contact with you Giselle do you have any water or any cheats a cheese plate, help me. Okay.
[784] But they're into it, obviously.
[785] In 1978, he decides to open the Healthy Living Clinic, where he sells Adventist literature and health foods at huge markups.
[786] So they basically all kind of go there and work there.
[787] He convinces a woman, so this is basically the end of his stay in the Seventh -day Adventist Church, because while he has this clinic, he convinces a woman with leukemia that he can cure her with his holistic methods.
[788] And a few weeks later, she dies.
[789] And the Seventh -day Adventist Church is like, you can get the fuck out right now.
[790] Yeah.
[791] They know.
[792] So that's actually okay with him because he wants to start his own church.
[793] So he convinces a small group of followers.
[794] It's 12 women, six men, two children, that the end of the world is going to come on February 17th, 1979.
[795] Spoiler alert.
[796] Spoiler alert.
[797] Smoker's spoiler So they should sell their belongings sever ties with their families And move to the forest 100 kilometers northeast of Toronto It's fucking bears again Right?
[798] He's drawn to the bears So The group is based on Obviously religious themes Women's obedience to men Polygamy harsh punishments The righteousness of the leader The sinfulness of the followers And living miracles So everyone's kind of like, yeah, let's do this.
[799] The world's ending, let's move to the forest, and not smoke and eat vegetables.
[800] My fucking nightmare.
[801] Please never make me. So they go out there, and he sits in a chair, starts drinking again, just drinks all day, and watches them build him a huge octagonal cabin.
[802] Wow.
[803] And that's where he comes up with the name, the Aunt Hill can.
[804] kids for the group because he's watching them work and they work really fast and they're doing it really well.
[805] And he's sitting back doing nothing.
[806] Meanwhile, he's secretly given up his holistic lifestyle.
[807] He's no longer a vegetarian.
[808] He's just eating junk food all the time.
[809] Like that guy.
[810] Right?
[811] Yeah.
[812] So some people leave the group.
[813] The ones who stay, he renames them with biblical names.
[814] He renames himself, Moses, of course.
[815] And he, then declares, which is always, like, the huge sign that you're in a cult, that he shall have multiple wives.
[816] That when the polygamy kicks in, you know that, like, your Bible study group has gone awry.
[817] Keep your eye peeled.
[818] Up until then, praise fucking Jesus.
[819] The second, it's like, I need three wives.
[820] Go to a different.
[821] There's so many other Bible studies that you can go to.
[822] Okay.
[823] So, oh, and then he makes every woman in the group his concubine.
[824] And, yes.
[825] So the storyline of this is like any cult, and it's totally insane.
[826] His drinking, his obviously mental illness and pretty serious mental illness.
[827] Everything escalates.
[828] He has total power, and it corrupts him entirely.
[829] So nobody has any money.
[830] When they were building that cabin for him, he was doling out the food.
[831] So they were all, like, starving while he sat there secretly snacking away.
[832] And that's kind of how it went.
[833] So, like, they sold baked goods in town to make money.
[834] He took and kept all the money.
[835] And if they didn't sell enough baked goods, he would beat people with a hammer.
[836] Oh, my God.
[837] It's the abuse and the violence in this story.
[838] Like, it's disgusting.
[839] And there's parts, like, you can go read it yourself, but I'm not going to read it out loud, because there's things in it.
[840] It's kind of like looking at the, like, crime scene photos where, like, I just don't want to know.
[841] I get and give him the benefit of the doubt that he is a total piece of shit.
[842] I'll tell you some stuff.
[843] It's very upsetting, but you can go into the details.
[844] I left out paragraphs and paragraphs, and every single word I read, I was like, oh, no, what, no?
[845] Like, it's, fuck.
[846] Like, here's just an example, and this is, like, one of the lighter things I read.
[847] a woman took two pancakes instead of one, so he punched her twice in the face.
[848] Jesus.
[849] And then later, when she suggested to her husband that she wanted to leave the group, he found out about it and told her husband, you have to cut off one of her toes.
[850] And the husband was like, yeah, I don't think I am going to do that.
[851] And he started screaming at the guy saying, you need to, what do you say, don't you have any balls?
[852] If you want to be a man, you have to learn how to teach your woman a lesson.
[853] and so then the man cut off his wife's toe with an axe.
[854] No, I was really hoping they would leave.
[855] Nope, from there we go like this.
[856] From there, that's up here.
[857] And then we go like that.
[858] Shit.
[859] So Google what you will, but leave me out of it.
[860] So he says, and the thinking is this is all of this abuse and the stuff he makes people stand in the cold for hours.
[861] He whips them, he ties people to trees.
[862] He does it to fucking kids.
[863] The child abuse.
[864] is horrifying, it's awful, and he says it's all meant to purify the cult members of their sins so that they'll be saved when that end of the world comes, which is pretty soon, just hold on a little while longer, he even begins administering regular purifying sessions where he stripped them nude, he would whip them, sometimes he'd just make them lay down and pee on them.
[865] Yeah, but they're in it.
[866] I mean, they're completely brainwashed at this point, and they're totally isolated, starving.
[867] It's all the cult things.
[868] He really nailed it in that way.
[869] A brain washed all of them.
[870] So when that date comes and goes of the end of the world, February 17th, I believe it was, 1979, nothing happens.
[871] Just in case you didn't know, nothing happened.
[872] And so he says he miscalculated.
[873] He's going to go back.
[874] Rework the numbers.
[875] Math has not always been my thing.
[876] Come on.
[877] Only went to school till seventh grade.
[878] Help me out.
[879] I'm more into medical textbooks.
[880] And the municipal code.
[881] Ask me anything.
[882] So that's then more, he senses that the followers' faith might be wavering.
[883] So then his big fix, he marries all the women that are concubines.
[884] They actually, he marries them.
[885] And then gets all of them pregnant.
[886] So he ends up fathering like 20 children.
[887] Holy shit.
[888] How many people are we talking about at this point?
[889] At this, it is like around 20 adults, roughly.
[890] Or I guess over that, probably between 20 and 25.
[891] Sorry, there are nearly 40 members.
[892] I was one sentence away from seeming like I knew what I was talking about.
[893] I shouldn't have asked.
[894] I should, you know, it's okay.
[895] It's okay.
[896] By this time, there are nearly 40 members.
[897] Living and working on the common.
[898] Okay.
[899] So, here's the end of this first commune.
[900] Oh, no. It's bad.
[901] It's terrible.
[902] It's horrifying.
[903] He decides he wants to circumcise a two -year -old child.
[904] And in doing so, the child dies.
[905] Oh.
[906] And then he says, I didn't do it.
[907] That guy did it.
[908] And blames it on another follower.
[909] And then he says to the group, well, since he did this and he needs to be punished.
[910] Who votes that I castrate him?
[911] Oh my God.
[912] And they all vote yes.
[913] No. And they fucking do it.
[914] He does it.
[915] He does it himself.
[916] That guy gets away and fucking gets to the cops.
[917] Okay, good.
[918] So the cops raid the commune.
[919] He gets arrested and a bunch of them get arrested.
[920] The top, I think it's like the top three people.
[921] And Rock spends two years in jail.
[922] Two years for that.
[923] because the other problem is all the abuse when they come and see everybody obviously they're all you know they're very thin they don't look good but there's not like bruises it's not overt the abuse is not overt and they're there voluntarily and it's they've made themselves a church so they can't like the authorities can't touch them if all those people are there and want to be there so he goes to jail for two years still talks to the people who are still in it like he's still in contact he sets up the group is down to eight wives 10 children and then three other I guess two men and a woman and a woman who somehow made it so that she didn't have to marry him but when he gets out of jail they make another commune, a second commune at Burt River.
[924] And that's when the abuses escalate.
[925] So it gets fucking worse than the things I've already said.
[926] He goes on three -day drinking binges.
[927] This woman, he's breaking people's legs with sledgehammers.
[928] He's making people shoot each other.
[929] What the fuck?
[930] Like punish each other.
[931] It's complete fucking insanity.
[932] That's insane.
[933] The local children's aid society starts looking into them because they heard about the first commune, and so they're keeping an eye on them.
[934] But when they go to talk to the women, the women will not talk to them.
[935] The children, there's nothing over, there's nothing they can do.
[936] But they're like, there's something really wrong out there.
[937] So in 1989, yeah, it goes on this long.
[938] Yeah, after enduring extreme abuse, including being burnt with a welding torch and having eight of her teeth pulled out one of the followers that's nothing I wish you could fucking see the things I've read a follower named Gabrielle Lavalie escapes from the commune and she gets fucking caught and brought back and he cuts off her arm oh my gosh yes now he had he had already, there was a woman who complained of stomach issues that he said, I know how to do surgery.
[939] And he attempted surgery on her and she died.
[940] Fuck.
[941] So that's when Gabrielle was just like, this is crazy, I have to get out of this.
[942] And then basically that happened to her.
[943] So she heals up and then is like, I'm going to do it again.
[944] And she escapes again.
[945] And this time she gets to a hospital.
[946] And she tells the people at the hospital, yes.
[947] She tells the people at the hospital, I was in a car accident.
[948] And, of course, everyone's like, uh -uh.
[949] Because, yeah, so the cops go straight to the camp, and they basically raid it and take everybody.
[950] Yeah.
[951] But he's not there.
[952] I just wanted you to clap a little bit so I could get you.
[953] He's not there.
[954] He's gone into hiding.
[955] It takes the police six weeks to find him.
[956] But they finally do.
[957] So after 12 years of having this bizarre and extremely violent and insane hold over the Aunt Hillkitts cult, Rock Terrio is arrested.
[958] He receives 12 years for the assault of Gabrielle.
[959] They don't know anything about the murder of Solange yet.
[960] The cult dissolves, except for three of the concubines, who, when they go and visit him and have conjugal visits in jail, bear four more children to him.
[961] Bringing the total to over 30 children that he fathered in his cult.
[962] I bet someone's related in here.
[963] At least one person has to be.
[964] Well, then we want to hear your hometown.
[965] They might not even know.
[966] They just don't know.
[967] They don't even know.
[968] When the police, so basically, Gabrielle tells them about Solange's murder and how horrifying that was.
[969] Oh, sorry.
[970] This is like what in the bakery days when everything was okay.
[971] I have that sweater.
[972] I swear to fucking God.
[973] You really?
[974] Yes.
[975] Wow.
[976] But then this is when they're out, they've gone out into the wilderness.
[977] Leave the goats out of it.
[978] Fuck sake.
[979] The goat's like, can I talk to you?
[980] You're fucking crazy.
[981] That's his concubines.
[982] That's when they got married.
[983] Oh.
[984] Look at them.
[985] so, I fucking have that dress.
[986] I swear to God.
[987] I'm sorry, this is inappropriate.
[988] No, no. Here's the good part.
[989] So, they investigate the murder of Solange Boyard.
[990] They charge him with second degree murder.
[991] He pleads guilty, and he's sentenced to life in prison in the year 2000.
[992] Wow.
[993] And then, on February 26, 2011, Rock's cellmate, 63 -year -old Matthew McDonald, walks to the guard station, hands them a shiv, and says, that piece of shit is down on the range.
[994] Here's the knife.
[995] I've sliced him up.
[996] His fucking cellmate just stabbed him to death one day.
[997] Holy shit.
[998] He's like, fuck you, buddy.
[999] Yeah.
[1000] He was already in jail for a murder charge, so we shouldn't really be cheering for charred.
[1001] This is when everyone's confused who didn't.
[1002] They don't understand.
[1003] This is how we start a cult.
[1004] We're like, Yes.
[1005] But basically he was like, this is the worst person ever, and I'm already in here.
[1006] I'm staying in here for life.
[1007] Yeah, that's double up.
[1008] He's going down on the range.
[1009] Yeah, and that's the hideous and upsetting story of the Ant Hill kids cult.
[1010] Sorry, threw it everywhere.
[1011] Wow.
[1012] Terrible.
[1013] Another one of those many fucking things that you're like, how did I not hear about?
[1014] this.
[1015] Yeah, it's, I think because it's so, it's just that thing of unchecked power.
[1016] Like, it's just so extreme.
[1017] Yeah.
[1018] And he just could do anything he wanted and then he fucking did.
[1019] And then people believe in him.
[1020] Right.
[1021] That's the crazy part.
[1022] Stop it.
[1023] Stop it.
[1024] Okay.
[1025] Guys, this is the no longer cold case of Renee Sweeney.
[1026] But this is some crazy shit.
[1027] This is my, okay, here we go.
[1028] Sudbury.
[1029] Pretty great.
[1030] It's a city in Ontario, Canada.
[1031] And over here.
[1032] And here.
[1033] So a lot of this information, at 2 o 'clock today decided that I realized that the murder that I had been working on took place 33 hours away from here.
[1034] And I was like, they're going to be mad at me. I'm not doing that.
[1035] My whole thing was in Montreal.
[1036] Well, then they would have been double mad.
[1037] So I went on my favorite murder, G -Mobile.
[1038] page and put in Ontario and this is the first one I found and I was like oh yeah of course because I read about it and so I got a lot of little things from actually our email account for murderinos about Sudbury someone of murderino named M said quote I almost put the providence abbreviation there but then I thought if Georgia was reading this she'd appreciate the full name when she said where it was so thank you M so it's about 400 kilometers from Toronto okay 248 .5 48 miles.
[1039] How many?
[1040] 248 .548 miles.
[1041] So kilometers are smaller than miles.
[1042] That's what I gather from that information.
[1043] The metric system, it's a mystery to me and every American.
[1044] Thank you.
[1045] About Sudbury, and a murdering no name, Emily, wrote us and said, it's, quote, home of the big nickel.
[1046] What?
[1047] And then she says, it's Emily with two E's, shout out, because she says, for real, for real, we're literally known for just having a huge fucking statue of a nickel.
[1048] What?
[1049] And then, so there's this story.
[1050] We have to go back to the nickel.
[1051] Big as the nickel.
[1052] Is it just a little bit bigger than a regular nickel?
[1053] Do you want it in metrics?
[1054] The metrics?
[1055] Yes.
[1056] It's really big.
[1057] Huge.
[1058] Is it as big as this?
[1059] Like a Ferris wheel type of...
[1060] Can you ride the nickel?
[1061] Wait, also, do you guys...
[1062] Okay.
[1063] Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[1064] We're not going to ask the audience any more question.
[1065] No, we're not.
[1066] That's a bad idea.
[1067] Even though they're Canadian.
[1068] They know everything.
[1069] Super polite.
[1070] Okay, so this is their like...
[1071] This is their fucking case.
[1072] And this one reminds me a lot of one of my obsession.
[1073] which is the Austin Yogurt Shop murders that I'm obsessed with.
[1074] Yeah.
[1075] So in 1998, 23 -year -old Renee Sweeney is a fourth year.
[1076] What did we say that?
[1077] How did we say we said that?
[1078] Laurentian.
[1079] Laurentian.
[1080] I knew you'd remember that.
[1081] Laurentian University student.
[1082] She's studying music.
[1083] She plans on attending teachers' college so she can teach music in history.
[1084] She has a study boyfriend, plays the trombone, and the Sudbury Symphony Orchestra.
[1085] Wow.
[1086] She's like, she's fucking great.
[1087] Of course she is.
[1088] She's a sweet baby angel.
[1089] She's beautiful, friendly, warm.
[1090] Her sister Kim said she had a lot of friends, but she was also quiet.
[1091] She was like really studious.
[1092] This is her.
[1093] So she needed to help pay for school.
[1094] So she got a good paying part -time job that fit her school schedule.
[1095] It was at an adult video store, which of course everyone, and everyone where I read it wants to make clear like that she was not in a CD underbelly, all this bullshit.
[1096] But it also was like, well even if she was it didn't matter but it was she was just a good job that she got um it's they had to pay people a lot to work there truly and you can wipe down the counters anytime you want but it was just like pretty much like you know when you go in your video store in the 80s and 90s and then there was a back red room yeah it was basically just a whole store of the back red room not that big of a deal okay you know um but it was what i just thought of your um wasn't that porn that you said you saw one time naked with shoes?
[1097] Naked with shoes on.
[1098] Naked with shoes on.
[1099] The whole story's in the book.
[1100] Stay sexy and don't get murdered.
[1101] Coming out on May, something.
[1102] Okay, so the video store is located in a busy strip mall, so it's not like creepy or anything like that.
[1103] There's a fucking natural food store next door where she sometimes shops.
[1104] And a door that connects the two.
[1105] There's a bagel store, a couple shops over it's like a normal fucking thing okay here we go it's a cold morning on Tuesday January 27th 1998 and Renee opens a video store by herself on what would normally have been her day off because she wants to go to a music performance on Saturday so she works that day instead to get the day off at 1115 she's on the phone with a friend and then says she has to get off because a customer has come in the door so she gets off the call what happened next is based on all the evidence because there's no witnesses the man who had entered the store stabbed her multiple times while she stood in front of the counter of the store she collapses he thinks she's dead he goes back into the washroom and washes up when he's done he comes out and she's not where he had left her she despite suffering dozens of stab wounds fucking Renee badass is able to drag herself behind the counter trying to get the phone, but she doesn't make it.
[1106] He stabs her again.
[1107] She was stabbed at least 35 times.
[1108] Jesus Christ.
[1109] It's horrifying.
[1110] Her attacker then stole about $200 from the till and a couple items from the shop and then he ran out pushing past a couple who were walking into the store.
[1111] Who were just trying to get porn.
[1112] I mean, these people...
[1113] It took them so long to just even get up the guts.
[1114] It's.
[1115] Ugh.
[1116] And they came upon the bloody scene in call 911.
[1117] Horrible.
[1118] I know.
[1119] So people saw his face as he ran by the bagel store and shit.
[1120] And when police arrived, they used tracking dogs to track his movements.
[1121] It led them through some schools into a nearby wooded area where they found the killer's abandoned bloody jacket and a pair of gardening gloves that the killer had been wearing.
[1122] He, like, fucking took him off and left them.
[1123] So let me show you the photo.
[1124] It's so fucking creepy of the, that's there.
[1125] And then...
[1126] It's a really original name.
[1127] So this is the jacket, which is like so distinct, right?
[1128] That's what's so crazy about this case, and I feel like it's so frustrating, almost more so when there's, like, not a lot of evidence is when there's so much evidence, and yet it still goes fucking cold and no one comes forward with any information.
[1129] It's almost like the pieces are right there and no one can put them together.
[1130] So, so this is, it's a men's large, ocean blue colored high Sierra jacket.
[1131] It was sold only.
[1132] only at Mervin's stores in the U .S. Oh, Mervins!
[1133] Remember Mervin?
[1134] Yeah.
[1135] So it was only sold in the U .S. during the winter of 1994 to 95, so three years earlier.
[1136] So it's fucking specific as shit, right?
[1137] Closest Mervins to Sudbury is a six or seven hour drive.
[1138] So like not a lot of people were fucking sporting this, right?
[1139] Do you recognize this?
[1140] Someone call in, please.
[1141] Another strange thing about the jacket is that it's the middle of fucking January in Ontario.
[1142] And as you and I know, because we inappropriately dressed for the strip.
[1143] It's fucking freezing.
[1144] It's fucking freezing.
[1145] And that jacket's not going to cut it.
[1146] Yeah.
[1147] You know?
[1148] So that's like a weird thing too.
[1149] So they're like, oh, is he from out of town?
[1150] What's the deal?
[1151] And inside the coat pocket, they find a single diaper pin.
[1152] Ew.
[1153] Isn't that creepy?
[1154] So many fucking, um, so back at the video store.
[1155] Also, sorry, but the idea that they used to use those things near babies is like the most upsetting.
[1156] Have you ever undone?
[1157] Like, my mom used to have a diaper pin like she saved a couple from when we were babies and you had to literally pin diapers because I'm 69.
[1158] But if you flick one open, you're done for.
[1159] They were fine with sharp shit around babies back then.
[1160] They didn't care.
[1161] Snoking over the baby as you stick a pin in to their diaper.
[1162] There were no fucking covers on electric outlets.
[1163] You learned not to do that the first time you stuck a fork in it.
[1164] That's how you learn.
[1165] And then you're like, that's kind of fun.
[1166] And then you kept doing it, and you got spanked for it.
[1167] Are you telling us a story, Georgia?
[1168] I don't know.
[1169] Like, having a recovered memory.
[1170] Just say it.
[1171] Just keep talking.
[1172] What else?
[1173] Hey, I hate Janet.
[1174] Okay.
[1175] No, I love you.
[1176] I texted her.
[1177] She texts me, we're like meeting to call each other.
[1178] And I was like, I'm sick as fuck.
[1179] Like, I can't talk.
[1180] And she was like, you text it back.
[1181] You love that word.
[1182] There's your favorite word again.
[1183] Well, I have a fucking sore throat.
[1184] So I'm not fucking.
[1185] Oh, it's like she just, like, mimicked me. She's such an asshole.
[1186] This is horrible.
[1187] Janet.
[1188] Okay.
[1189] Back at the video store.
[1190] The killers' bloody fingerprints are found on the cash box where he sold the money as well as a bloody footprint, and they could figure out that the print came from a man -sized 10, Brooks brand athletic shoe, and they can tell it was like the kind of shoe was a white shoe with a black stripe.
[1191] Like, they fucking had all this information about this person.
[1192] that they, of course, it was a huge story because it's insane.
[1193] So, Sergeant David Tafali of the greater Sudsbury Police Sudbury.
[1194] Yeah, you're there, you got it.
[1195] I'm certainly in England.
[1196] Sbury.
[1197] Then the lead investigator on the case said, quote, Renee fought him and fought him hard.
[1198] And because of this, investigators were able to gather DNA from under Renee's fingernails from her scratching the shit out of her attacker.
[1199] Amazing.
[1200] Amazing.
[1201] Witnesses described the killer as early 20s, 5, 10 to 6 feet tall, 140 to 150 pounds, with short dark hair and glasses and a composite sketch was made of him.
[1202] It's creepy.
[1203] I'll show you in a minute.
[1204] Okay.
[1205] As for the motive, the investigators didn't, even though he stole shit, it was like an afterthought, so they didn't think it was robbery.
[1206] Robbery.
[1207] Investigators discovered that someone had, so, okay, so someone had been calling and hanging up on Renee in the weeks leading up to her death.
[1208] And they found this out because she never mentioned anything to her friends, family, or co -workers, but they checked her phone records, and someone had been obsessively calling her and harassing her and, like, they think, stalking her and hanging up.
[1209] And also, because coworkers said that she always used to park as far away from the store as possible, which I think is that fucking annoying -ass rule when you work in a store and they make you, which shouldn't be allowed.
[1210] Or she was embarrassed.
[1211] She's like, what?
[1212] I work at the bagel store.
[1213] I don't even know what you're talking about.
[1214] I love smear and...
[1215] So she would usually park far away for some reason.
[1216] For whatever reason.
[1217] And then in the week leading up to her murder, she had started parking right in front of the store, but she never mentioned to anyone why.
[1218] And so shortly after the murder, the police arrested a 31 -year -old man charged him with first -degree murder in the case, later admitted they'd wrongly accused him based on a mistaken match with the fingerprint and issued an apology, let him go.
[1219] It wasn't him.
[1220] And the apology part is how you know it wasn't in the States.
[1221] Very good point.
[1222] Despite a composite sketch of the killer, the distinctive jacket and gloves left behind, the possibility that the murder had scratches on his face because he was covered up everywhere else, so where else would you have scratched him?
[1223] All this other shit, there would not be another arrest in the case for nearly another 21 years.
[1224] So, police had eliminated 1 ,800 people of interests, when, in early 2017, greater Sudbury police released a new composite image of the murder suspects using our friend Parabon Nanolabs.
[1225] We know them.
[1226] We don't know them.
[1227] They're so fun at the Christmas party.
[1228] It's nuts.
[1229] They take everyone's DNA.
[1230] So they're that, the DNA technology that, remember right, okay, when they're in Virginia, they use a snapshot DNA phenotyping service, and they predict what the appearance of the killer would look like based on ancestry DNA.
[1231] So I'll show you, essentially, they do that.
[1232] Yes.
[1233] So like a creepy as fuck realistic photo and that's the composite sketch next to it.
[1234] Wow.
[1235] Yeah.
[1236] So they, I mean obviously it's so close and creepy and I'll take it away.
[1237] What do you think?
[1238] I hate it.
[1239] Yeah.
[1240] It's so creepy.
[1241] This was like right Yeah.
[1242] Whoops.
[1243] Okay.
[1244] Sorry.
[1245] Look down.
[1246] You have all Am I stealing the covers?
[1247] You have all the covers.
[1248] I'm freezing.
[1249] Okay.
[1250] That's so funny.
[1251] Is it just, has it been slowly doing it the whole time?
[1252] That's so distracting.
[1253] Sorry.
[1254] No, no, no. We're going to have to bring a new setup.
[1255] Vince.
[1256] God damn it.
[1257] So creepy.
[1258] This is like before, I remember this is like the new thing right before the Golden State Killer was caught based on Genug's genealogy.
[1259] Like this was the thing.
[1260] And it's fucking creepy as shit.
[1261] Everyone's losing their mind.
[1262] And the suspect that they had come up with as a male of Northern European ancestry with fair skin, blue -green eyes, brown, blonde hair, and freckles, few freckles.
[1263] And then they added eyeglasses.
[1264] And yet still, nobody was like, yo, that's my brother.
[1265] Like, someone knew that fucking jacket, you know?
[1266] So then, our friend M from earlier, from the murderer, is she here?
[1267] She's here.
[1268] Someone's acting like their M, but we can't tell for sure until we get her DNA.
[1269] We're going to get a picture up, and we'll see if it's you.
[1270] Someone's drunk and has an M in their name.
[1271] My name's Catherine.
[1272] So she says, in her email to us, she said last year was the 20th anniversary, so it started getting a lot of attention again.
[1273] And the police were feeling extra pressure to get it solved because she was a pretty young white university student, and not one of those thousands of missing and murdered indigenous women in this country.
[1274] That's right.
[1275] That's right.
[1276] Good point.
[1277] Very good point.
[1278] They doesn't deserve it to be, but I also wanted to go ahead and bring that up.
[1279] It's a very good point.
[1280] Okay.
[1281] So the new lead of the Facy Face Over there brought in hundreds of tips, of course.
[1282] And then, okay, and then in early 2018, they law came into effect that expanded Canada's someone's NyQuil just hit really hard Canadian I'm really sick I say it as a joke I came out of my mouth I could have acted like it was a joke but I just could no okay you guys Canada's National DNA Data Bank which at the time had only had DNA from convicted offenders and DNA collected from crime scenes.
[1283] It expanded, and it gave everyone hope of catching Renee's killer.
[1284] It was Lindsay's law, named after a 14 -year -old Lindsay Nichols, who had gone missing on Vancouver Island in 1993, which is why this law was passed, and expanded the database to include DNA from missing persons, as well as from unidentified human remains.
[1285] So we can find out, you know, who is who.
[1286] So we're not totally sure what led to this crack in the case, because they're not talking about it, but we all fucking know.
[1287] It's probably something similar to the Golden State Killer.
[1288] It's probably genetic genealogy because a couple months ago, in early November 2018, Greater Sudbury Police identified a person to interest via forensic evidence, which led them to obtain a search warrant.
[1289] And this led to the fucking arrest of 39 -year -old Robert Stephen Wright of North Bay.
[1290] Wow.
[1291] I fucking caught him.
[1292] Want to see his picture?
[1293] Sure.
[1294] So, he was 18 years old.
[1295] What?
[1296] When he killed Renee.
[1297] Yep.
[1298] So, on December 12th, 2018, he was arrested.
[1299] This asshole was an 18 -year -old Lockerbie Composite student at the time of the murder, where he was voted quietest.
[1300] Ew.
[1301] So fucking.
[1302] creepy.
[1303] God damn it.
[1304] Listen.
[1305] Also, sorry.
[1306] Why are you voting on quietest?
[1307] You're not allowed to vote on like creepiest.
[1308] Yeah, exactly.
[1309] The teacher's like, sorry, the yearbook teacher.
[1310] Sorry.
[1311] Makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
[1312] Isst?
[1313] Yeah.
[1314] Quietest.
[1315] That's horrible.
[1316] It's insane.
[1317] The school is located about 500 meters, or a third of a mile.
[1318] Now I understand.
[1319] Away from the video store.
[1320] So, of course, I'm reading all these Reddit theories, and people are like, did he fucking, like, leave school for lunch and go and, like, what the fuck?
[1321] It's insane.
[1322] Which actually would be the perfect tidings place.
[1323] Right.
[1324] That's because they wouldn't be like, oh, this murderer is in the high school.
[1325] I think they kind of did search, though, because the dogs actually tracked his scent through the high school's grounds.
[1326] Oh, wow.
[1327] So, yeah.
[1328] So this dick, who also goes by Stephen or Steve.
[1329] Stephen.
[1330] He's arrested at his place of work, which is the North Bay Regional Health Care Center.
[1331] That sounds like a hospital.
[1332] He worked there as an emergency lab room technician.
[1333] So the fucking thing that got him caught, as he's working there, he must have been scared shit.
[1334] That's just fucking good.
[1335] I bet he was.
[1336] And, of course, people describe him as gentle, nice, and quiet.
[1337] Insanely quiet to the point of being upsetting.
[1338] Right.
[1339] But to now.
[1340] I know.
[1341] Disgusting.
[1342] So, just this past Thursday, February 21st, a three -day bail hearing wrapped up in Sudbury Court where the court heard 12 hours of testimony on whether or not to give this fucking psychopath bail.
[1343] Obviously, don't.
[1344] Unfortunately, there's a court -ordered publication ban on the testimony, so none of the details can be made public, but the Justice Edward Garrow said he needs to, more time to consider to granting bail and he's going to deliver his decision on March 27th.
[1345] So let's fucking keep an eye on that asshole.
[1346] Not the judge.
[1347] That fucking.
[1348] Not mad at him.
[1349] So Kim Sweeney, the younger sister of Renee Sweeney, last spoke to her big sister the night before Renee's murder in 1998 when they stayed up until 1230 in the morning talking on the phone, which is something that Kim's always been glad about.
[1350] She said, it's been a very long 20 years.
[1351] I'm so grateful that throughout this time, you've never forgotten my sister Renee.
[1352] Not only was she, my amazing sister, but she was also my best friend.
[1353] And that's the not cold anymore case of Renee Sweeney.
[1354] Amazing.
[1355] Yay.
[1356] 21 years.
[1357] This is why, I swear, every night before bed, I Google cold case and just read the news because there's always just, another one happening.
[1358] Every time it's so incredible.
[1359] It's true.
[1360] live in a great age.
[1361] A wonderful and yet horrifying time.
[1362] Do we have time for a hometown?
[1363] Yeah, let's see.
[1364] We have the lights up a little so we can look.
[1365] Oh, there's Vince.
[1366] Yeah.
[1367] I took the liberty of looking it up and it's a pretty big fucking nickel there in Sudbury.
[1368] Is it?
[1369] How big, Vince?
[1370] How big?
[1371] Pretty fucking big.
[1372] Is it?
[1373] Also, out west, when I used, used to tour out there, there's a town called Vulcan Alberta, where they have a giant Enterprise, Starship Enterprise statue.
[1374] You guys love the shit.
[1375] A whole town of nerds?
[1376] Canada's the best.
[1377] I love Canada.
[1378] I just want to remind I want to remind all you guys to always support Canadian comedy and always support Canadian comics.
[1379] Please.
[1380] Thanks, Vince.
[1381] Good point.
[1382] All right.
[1383] Oh, let's take a look.
[1384] Okay.
[1385] Listen to Karen's room.
[1386] I'm going to tell you some rules while you wave your arms around.
[1387] You can do that.
[1388] That's fine.
[1389] But this is the thing that helps most when we do our hometown murders.
[1390] We love it to be local.
[1391] Certainly not American.
[1392] We love it when you are not so drunk, you can't tell your own story.
[1393] We love it when it's concise, when it has a beginning and middle and end.
[1394] What happened?
[1395] Then what happened?
[1396] How did it end?
[1397] That's a beginning and middle of it?
[1398] It's very nerve -wracking to be up here, so keep that in mind, if you're the kind of person that might 30 seconds in have a breakdown, maybe don't raise your hand.
[1399] What else?
[1400] Am I forgetting anything?
[1401] I did drunk.
[1402] I think they know how to do it.
[1403] So, who's got a goodie?
[1404] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1405] Okay, come here.
[1406] Go that way.
[1407] Okay.
[1408] You can bring the lightstone, please.
[1409] Yeah, lightstone.
[1410] Thank you.
[1411] I'm trying a new thing.
[1412] of picking people out, but I'm not going to tell anyone what it is.
[1413] Yeah, I wouldn't.
[1414] Ooh, could you bring the lights down before she gets up here?
[1415] Yeah, she'll freak out.
[1416] Glit their eyes.
[1417] Lights down.
[1418] Don't look.
[1419] Thank you.
[1420] Nikki, everyone.
[1421] Where are you from, Nikki?
[1422] Well, I live in Toronto, but my story takes place in Rockwood, Ontario.
[1423] That's near Guelph, but okay.
[1424] Okay, awesome.
[1425] So my story takes place, or it starts, when my mom was driving me and my sister to visit our grandparents on their farm in Rockwood.
[1426] So as we're turning into their long, it's like a kilometer long driveway, suddenly their neighbors, it's a kind of dilapidated barn and weird situation.
[1427] It's always looked pretty hoarder -esque there.
[1428] There are like five cop cars, two ambulances, and I turned to my mom, and I'm like, Mom, what's going on?
[1429] And her face drops, and she says, that's Tony Borders' house.
[1430] So now we actually have to go back to when my mom was 19, and one of her very close friends, Susan Porter, was found strangled to death in a shallow grave.
[1431] So when she was found, it was pretty clear.
[1432] They were able to identify who her killer was very quickly.
[1433] So Susan Porter, her older sister, was married to Tony Borders's older brother.
[1434] And one night, he offered, Tony Border, offered to drive Susan home.
[1435] And it's unclear whether it was consensual or not, but they engaged in sexual activities and he was choking her for pleasure and he went too far and she died.
[1436] And he panicked, he dumped the body, and luckily he was caught.
[1437] And unfortunately, he was only charged with manslaughter.
[1438] So he got, I think it was eight years.
[1439] So now we get to fast forward back to us driving into the farm.
[1440] So Tony Borter, after he got out of jail, he went on to get married to a lovely lady named Crystal.
[1441] Now Crystal, she had a very low IQ and she was a lot younger than Tony and she hadn't been very educated and she was just a very, very sweet woman.
[1442] But Tony, he was an abusive man and he was, you know, he was into sexual games and stuff like that that he would force her into.
[1443] They had two very young sons and on the day that we happened to be driving past, he had set up a noose in their barn.
[1444] And they had a safe word and he had said, okay, I want you to raise me up and when I get to my sexual level, I will signal and you'll let me down.
[1445] But she was at her end.
[1446] She was at the end of her rope, literally.
[1447] Oh.
[1448] And Crystal, when he signaled to be let down, she just didn't.
[1449] And she, She chained smoke cigarettes for 15 minutes as he hung before she cut him loose.
[1450] And because he was so fucked in the head, he had wanted to film all of these sexual activities.
[1451] So the whole thing is on camera.
[1452] Oh, my God.
[1453] And so at the end of it, she calls the police.
[1454] She turns herself in.
[1455] She said, I killed him.
[1456] But he fucking deserved it.
[1457] Jesus Christ.
[1458] And she, at her court case, my nanny, who's my grandmother, sorry, British, she testified.
[1459] She said that, you know, Crystal was really lovely.
[1460] She was a really nice lady that, you know, this was very out of character.
[1461] And Crystal ended up only getting two years of house arrest.
[1462] Holy shit.
[1463] Holy shit.
[1464] Oh, my God.
[1465] So, I just want to add, my mom actually was supposed to be here tonight with me, but she lives in Perry Sound, and it was in, it was, it was icy, and she couldn't get here.
[1466] Oh, thank God.
[1467] I just was so afraid you were going to say something else.
[1468] No, no, no, no, no, no. She's very safe.
[1469] She's at home with her cats.
[1470] What's her name?
[1471] Her name's Amanda.
[1472] So my sister is, my sister, Christina, is here with me, so she's part of the story too.
[1473] And yeah, so it ends up turning out well.
[1474] Luckily, that guy got his just desserts.
[1475] Nikki, everybody.
[1476] It's so good.
[1477] Jesus.
[1478] It was perfection.
[1479] That's how you do a hometown murder.
[1480] Oh, no. That was amazing.
[1481] There's twists.
[1482] I didn't know.
[1483] I was like, uh -oh.
[1484] I absolutely wrote that in my head very differently.
[1485] Very differently.
[1486] The whole thing could have gone south.
[1487] I honestly feel like that's the first time I've ever heard of a woman in like a revenge killing like that, getting that kind of a sentence.
[1488] Again, we're in Canada.
[1489] Oh, we're in Canada.
[1490] So sorry.
[1491] That's like last night I'm watching TV and there's a commercial that comes on for some cereal.
[1492] And I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
[1493] And I'm like, oh, that's right.
[1494] I'm in a different country.
[1495] It was like some cereal Looked just like a cereal commercial And everything is right And then it looked It was as if I was in a movie Where they had to put on a fake commercial So it was like It was Shreddies, I think they were called Are they delicious?
[1496] I was just like Fucking Shreddies What's happening?
[1497] Like they couldn't use the brand name In your movie And so they put a fake one on?
[1498] It was like the 555 of cereals I had no idea what was going on This is two for two of my new picking method of hometowns Yeah, that's because we're in Toronto, baby.
[1499] Maybe it's just because we're in Canada.
[1500] I'm going to take credit for it, though.
[1501] Okay, no, it's all you.
[1502] It's all you, girl.
[1503] You guys, you, Toronto, sold out this humongous theater two nights in a row for us.
[1504] It's fucking crazy.
[1505] It's crazy.
[1506] Last time we were here, I think it was a year ago, you guys did the same thing, and we, like, got to fucking headline over a bunch of fucking comedy dudes who are not used to two fucking ladies just talking and selling shit out.
[1507] So thank you.
[1508] Yeah.
[1509] This whole community means so much to us.
[1510] We appreciate you guys so much for letting us do this.
[1511] It's such a beautiful fucking thing to see you guys come together and be friends and share your stories and share your anxieties.
[1512] And we just love the community so much.
[1513] Also, you've given us over 500 Canadian Kit Katz so far.
[1514] It's true.
[1515] We have so much candy right now.
[1516] It is disgusting.
[1517] It's crazy.
[1518] And amazing.
[1519] And we love it.
[1520] You guys put caramel in them.
[1521] What the fuck is going on?
[1522] Yeah, this is a dream come true.
[1523] I mean, we're like living a dream come true.
[1524] And it's because of our amazing listeners who support us and are here.
[1525] And we just can't thank you enough.
[1526] We never be able to.
[1527] So thank you so much for being here.
[1528] And thank you for being there for each other.
[1529] It's really amazing.
[1530] Amazing, and so stay sexy.
[1531] Bye, Toronto.
[1532] Thank you.