Abbi Jacobson

[0] Hi, my name is Abby Jacobson.

[1] And I feel scrumptious about being Conan O 'Brien's friend.

[2] I love that.

[3] That's a word out of Willy Wonka.

[4] Fall is here, hear the yell, back to school, ring the bell, brand new shoes, walking loose, climb the fence, books and pens, I can tell that we are going to be friends, we are going to be friends.

[5] Hello there and welcome to Conan O 'Brien Needs a Friend podcast that we've been doing for.

[6] How long have we been doing this podcast now for?

[7] Matt Gourley, producer extraordinaire.

[8] We're two and a half years, I think.

[9] Two and a half years.

[10] Can you believe that?

[11] I can't actually because it does feel like we just started doing this recently.

[12] I mean, I've been doing television.

[13] It feels like since television was invented.

[14] There are early episodes.

[15] You can look them up online of me in the late 1940s.

[16] and I'm mostly, all the commercials are for cigarettes.

[17] My doctor says, my doctor says that nothing's a better choice than Camel.

[18] But this just feels, still feels so new, which is I think why it can also feel so fun.

[19] You're fresh -faced.

[20] Yeah, we've managed somehow not to drain the joy out of this.

[21] It's, I just, I, every time we sit down to do it, I'm instantly in what's for me a good mood, mood.

[22] I guess it's pretty relative, right, Sona?

[23] Wait, huh?

[24] You weren't listening, were you?

[25] You know what?

[26] Sona just drained the joy out of it.

[27] Now I don't want to do these anymore.

[28] Sonny, you're not even listening.

[29] I am.

[30] I just, I wasn't sure what you were trying to say.

[31] Oh, so I'm inarticulate, eh?

[32] Well, I mean, what are you, you, did you, what?

[33] Hold on.

[34] What happened here?

[35] Oh, my God.

[36] I don't know.

[37] I don't know.

[38] What happened, Sona, this is, this is, we should, I want to play this for a neurologist.

[39] Did you just go into labor?

[40] Yeah.

[41] Wait, you said...

[42] I just said that it feels...

[43] You're going to drain the joy, and then you said it's not a lot saying, what, coming from you?

[44] Okay.

[45] I totally miss me. You know what?

[46] I love hearing you try to reconstruct it.

[47] It's like when kids play a game of telephone.

[48] And the first person says, pass the jar of pickles, and then the last kid says, Senator Sumter has launched an attack.

[49] And you don't know how, through five kids, pickles turned into Senator Sumter, launched an attack.

[50] Yeah.

[51] Sona, will you just repeat what he just said?

[52] I want to see if...

[53] I know.

[54] You said, I completely forgot what the first one was.

[55] Forget the first one.

[56] Said Senator Sumter did an attack.

[57] Launched an attack.

[58] Launched.

[59] Who is that?

[60] Well, is that a person?

[61] Yeah.

[62] Oh, no. You know what?

[63] I know when you say, well, I know it's going to be like a long, like, uh, this guy did this.

[64] And this is the date when this happened.

[65] And you're going to teach you.

[66] I love your total contempt for knowledge.

[67] Oh, this is something that happened once And this is what happened That's called knowledge Oh, it's also your smugness Do you ever mock the doctor You know, when the doctor's saying things like Well, Sona, your children of your twins appear to be very healthy And what I would recommend What I would recommend Well, Sona, please I would recommend maybe It's vitamin B And I would also be V for boring Please, Sona, I'm just trying to give you...

[68] Is this what you do to your doctor?

[69] That's the same.

[70] Yeah, it's the same as you rattling off a lot of information that I'll forget instantly.

[71] It's the same as my gynecologist talking to me about my future children.

[72] I don't have to say gynecologist.

[73] You get weird.

[74] Like, I said uterus once.

[75] Don't ever say that again.

[76] Don't ever say uterus.

[77] Okay.

[78] Cervix.

[79] Well, there you go.

[80] That's fine.

[81] That one's fine?

[82] Yeah, that's just your tailbone.

[83] Okay.

[84] This is the most confused conversation.

[85] Vajaru.

[86] A vagaroo.

[87] You're fine with Vajaru but that vagina.

[88] How about uterus?

[89] A utarauoo.

[90] Yutaru.

[91] If I can turn it into a silly sound, it robs it of all of its sort of Freudian, you know, fright for me. You know what I mean?

[92] You've desexualized it.

[93] Yes, if I can desexualize the most sacred parts of the, the reproductive process, then I feel safe.

[94] Your dirty talk must be at saying.

[95] I can't wait to my cockaroo!

[96] Meets your vajaroo!

[97] And a baby grows in your utahoo!

[98] Of course, I was speaking to my wife there, just so everyone knows that this was proper conversation.

[99] Oh, yeah, it's proper.

[100] Well, it's a miracle I found a wife.

[101] It is an absolute miracle, let alone someone who's like a nice, normal person.

[102] Yes.

[103] Here's this stuff all the time.

[104] That must have been a real right place, right time thing.

[105] Yes.

[106] It was.

[107] Yes.

[108] Right place, right time.

[109] She had met me at any other point in history.

[110] I got her, yes.

[111] She was just ready.

[112] She was like, I'll take whatever else.

[113] Just whatever comes through the door.

[114] I don't care.

[115] I've lost all faith in humanity.

[116] And then I stumbled in like the three stooges when they say, don't worry, I've hired the very best plumbers.

[117] Crash.

[118] Hey, a lady, we'll plumb you up real good, you know.

[119] Wow.

[120] Well, we have an excellent show.

[121] My guest today co -created, wrote, directed, and starred in the critically acclaimed Comedy Central series Broad City.

[122] Her new movie, The Mitchells versus the Machines, will be available on Netflix April 30th.

[123] I may also have a little connection with that film, but that's a secret.

[124] I'm excited, very excited, to talk to her today.

[125] Abby Jacobson, welcome.

[126] Scrumptious?

[127] Well, that was my favorite word as a kid.

[128] It's a good one, right?

[129] There were certain words that I had as a kid that I loved, that I got out of comic books.

[130] And then I found out later on I was mispronouncing them.

[131] So there was this comic book.

[132] My brother had action hero comic books, and I would read them.

[133] And sometimes they would say a macabre, you know, chill came over the room and I would say, I would read that word and go that's a cool word and then I would announce to everybody I'm feeling very macrabe right now.

[134] Yeah, I was, it was bad and the other one was sinewy like they would say like Batman flexed his sinewy muscles and leapt onto the Joker and I would be, I thought it was snooie so whenever I would try and talk and use a word I would use it incorrectly.

[135] Scrumptious is a really good one though.

[136] I hardly use it.

[137] I don't know the last time I've used it, so very excited to bring it back into action here.

[138] I'm honored.

[139] Is that really how you feel?

[140] You just wanted to use the word, and you're feeling like really flatline.

[141] You're flatlined about being my friend, but you wanted to use the word scrumption.

[142] No, I was, I mean, first thought I was going to just say fucking awesome, but then I was like, what do I, what's a better?

[143] Scrumptious is better.

[144] Scrumptious is like a delicious, right?

[145] It's fantastic.

[146] Yeah.

[147] There's so many questions I have for you about comedy.

[148] and about how you got started and how all this happened and I thought, yeah, I want to talk to talk to Abby about this and the only way I could do that was to create this podcast.

[149] This is why you did it.

[150] I did it and it's called the Long Con like, yeah, I'll talk to him, Michelle Obama, whatever I have to do to get to Abby.

[151] That's what I want to do.

[152] Yeah, I mean, listen, it makes sense.

[153] It all adds up and finally, finally I'm here.

[154] And this is my last episode.

[155] This is my last episode.

[156] Because now it's worked.

[157] I get to talk to you.

[158] And then.

[159] Well, you're welcome.

[160] You're welcome that you got to.

[161] That you had to.

[162] I told you, Sona, a long time ago, once we get Abby, it's done.

[163] Yeah.

[164] That was in the initial meetings when we were first talking about this podcast.

[165] You were like, this is just for Abby.

[166] And I said it's probably going to take two, two and a half years.

[167] and we'll trick her by talking to other people and she won't see it coming and then we'll wait until she's promoting something.

[168] But we will never get around to promoting this movie.

[169] That's not what we're going to do.

[170] We're just going to drill down on your life.

[171] I'm going to find out what you're really about.

[172] Oh, here we go.

[173] No, it's so funny because there are, I like to find common points of reference with people and you're someone who I feel a kinship with because from the first time I saw you on Broad City, I could sense, I think this is someone very cerebral who loves comedy like me. And I started sort of finding out who you were.

[174] And I found out the first thing that made me go, Eureka, I've got it, which is you were fascinated with comedy when you were young, but you thought, I can't do that for a living.

[175] Yeah, I mean, I was obsessed with SNL, Gilda Radner, old SNLs.

[176] I mean, I was obsessed with the current ones at the time in the 90s and that, but really was like sort of hooked under the old ones.

[177] But it was never a thing of, um, a thought process of like, oh, I'll do that because who does that?

[178] No one I know.

[179] No, it just didn't seem possible or even a thing that came up in my head.

[180] Um, and all my, my, my mom and my dad are both artists.

[181] My mom was a potter growing up.

[182] So she would do these hand builds.

[183] hand -built boxes, clay boxes, and would sell her art at craft shows.

[184] I'm from Philadelphia, around the tri -state area.

[185] And I would, like, help her sell her artwork.

[186] That's how they describe a serial killer's route is.

[187] She roamed the tri -state area.

[188] There's no pattern to why Abby's mom killed and killed again.

[189] But so she would sell clay boxes.

[190] Yes, these pottery boxes at craft shows.

[191] And my dad was a graphic designer and works in way, finding, which is this whole other environmental graphic design.

[192] And then I have an older brother who ended up, he was an incredible artist.

[193] And I sort of did everything he did.

[194] And he ended up going to art school.

[195] He works with my dad now.

[196] He's a graphic designer.

[197] And so the art avenue, even though that's like also an impossible goal as well, but that just felt very natural to my family.

[198] Yes, but I love that you said, I can't go into the impractical world of comedy.

[199] There's no money in that.

[200] Ah, art. I'll go paint for a living.

[201] And, you know, like, that was your, that's almost like your, you know, substitute for, okay, I'll go to business school.

[202] That's what I have to do.

[203] Yeah.

[204] You sold out.

[205] Exactly.

[206] I'll take the family path.

[207] Yeah.

[208] But I think it's because it's, it's, it's because as a kid, I was drawing all the time and it was so tangible.

[209] And I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to draw this dog.

[210] And it looks like the dog.

[211] And I, I, Like, you see the, you see the positive result, like the ping of like, wow, I'm actually good at this.

[212] And so that was way easier than I love comedy.

[213] I have this sort of feeling that I'm funny, but like, I just, I didn't know what to do with it, kind of.

[214] Yeah.

[215] I ended up minoring in video in college.

[216] I went to a school called Micah, Maryland Institute College of Art in Baltimore.

[217] And in minored in video, I ended up doing these characters that were, like, projected on gallery walls and looked at in a very serious.

[218] light.

[219] But really, they were just me doing fucking characters.

[220] I learned, like, later on.

[221] I was like, no, this is me doing comedic characters.

[222] And I moved to New York to go to the Atlantic Conservatory Program, which is like, Mamet.

[223] I know, I know you're not surprised at all, because I really come off as Mamet.

[224] You are, and I've noticed a lot of your improv choices.

[225] You didn't react because that seems true to you.

[226] Well, no, because I look at you and I think Mamet.

[227] And, and, you know, so much at Broad City is, is you and, you know, Ilana saying, look, the thing is the thing and the deal is the thing.

[228] So many sketches about selling real estate.

[229] So many.

[230] Always be selling.

[231] We're always selling.

[232] I love that we have, we both have like one reference point there, but.

[233] Oh, I have others.

[234] I only have the ones.

[235] Let's edit in one of my other ones later.

[236] But I, I moved, that's why I moved to New York, because I really wanted to be a serious actor.

[237] and I got to this conservatory, two -year conservatory, and I was just like, fuck, this is not how my brain works.

[238] I don't feel like I belong here.

[239] This is terrible, like repetition classes and analyzing the scene, like every line, which is I know how a lot of actors work.

[240] It's just not how I work.

[241] And my roommate at the time was like, have you ever been, have you ever gone to this place called the UCB?

[242] We went to college together.

[243] She was like, I really think you love it.

[244] Your videos are so funny.

[245] You'd love it.

[246] I didn't know about the UCB.

[247] It was on Comedy Central.

[248] I didn't know about it.

[249] I went by myself.

[250] This is the 26th Street Chelsea location that is no longer there, which is devastating.

[251] And I went by myself one night.

[252] I don't know what I saw.

[253] I don't know what show it was.

[254] And it was like that one of those complete turning point moments in my life where I was just like, I don't know what the fuck they're doing up there.

[255] But I want to do it.

[256] It's that looks like the most fun, the most satisfying, the most.

[257] invigorating experience and I quit Atlantic started taking UCB classes at night.

[258] I took an Udahagen class in New York because I remembered thinking it is the most, you know, distinguished approach to acting.

[259] It's serious.

[260] And I remembered they wanted me, they picked, they chose me and this woman I didn't know and they said, go up on stage and you have to tell her how much you love her and how painful it is for you to be leaving.

[261] But that's the point of the scene.

[262] And you just need to emote how much you love her.

[263] And immediately I realized, I'm not an actor.

[264] I am not an actor because I can't tell people I really love that I love them.

[265] I haven't been.

[266] How am I ever going to tell her?

[267] I don't even know her.

[268] She's pretty.

[269] But yeah, I remember thinking, I can't.

[270] It was so clear.

[271] It was.

[272] It was.

[273] like I went on to a football field for practice.

[274] They threw me one football and my arms fell off.

[275] And I just ran away, crying with no arms.

[276] That's what I did.

[277] I walked out.

[278] I said I am not an actor.

[279] The only time I can tell someone I love them in a scene is if it's not real and it's a joke.

[280] I can do anything if it's a joke.

[281] But I can't do.

[282] And of course, acting is all about you've got to be vulnerable and show us who you really are.

[283] Nope, I'm Irish, and that's not going to happen.

[284] I don't know if this makes sense, but you, you made me just feel like so much of what I, like we ended up doing on Broad City, I actually felt was more, me being more honest and expressing more of who I am than I'm, I'm more able to do that in my work than in real life, if that makes sense.

[285] Yes.

[286] It does makes sense.

[287] It does make sense.

[288] I mean, I always, I always thought maybe you're playing some version of yourself.

[289] No, it's exactly.

[290] It's a, it's pretty much a documentary.

[291] It's a heightened version.

[292] Highened version.

[293] Yes, but I know, but that I can do.

[294] I think I can do that.

[295] But improv is appealing because there's that, you do have that mix of control and then complete lack of control.

[296] And I found that I love both.

[297] I found it a little bit addictive because the high I would get from performing in that way was unlike any other thing.

[298] Yeah.

[299] That's why I had to move on to real drugs because I get this, you know, during during quarantine, I've really missed audiences and the excitement of the crowd.

[300] So I've just, I just, then it's, I just said, okay, it's time to do a lot of drugs and abuse them.

[301] Yeah.

[302] And that's something that has helped me and Sony gets it for me illegally.

[303] Oh, we're going to have to talk after.

[304] Well, I can't go places and get drugs.

[305] That's what Sona's for.

[306] That's exactly what I'm for.

[307] Most women who are as far along with twins as my assistant Sonam obsession, no one suspects.

[308] No. You know what I mean?

[309] That their bag is filled.

[310] I mean, filled with methamphetamine.

[311] Yeah, I got pregnant just so it could be a better cover for you when I got drug.

[312] And I said it has to be twins.

[313] It has to be twins because.

[314] Wow.

[315] Yeah.

[316] That's hard to pull off.

[317] Her husband's a very talented man. You're both.

[318] What a couple.

[319] Yeah, so it's so funny how you got into that.

[320] And I feel like I'm confirming my suspicion because I've always thought, like, yeah, I think, even though I don't know you well at all, I've always thought, yeah, Abby is whatever category I'm in, I feel like Abby is kind of in that category.

[321] because, and that's why I was so fascinated to have a real conversation with you as I thought, okay, there's just so much here that I can relate to.

[322] It took me, it felt like it took me such a long time.

[323] And I know that you had this moment where you guys were making these YouTube videos.

[324] You said, okay, this is Broad City.

[325] This is, this is this funny thing that we're doing.

[326] What's trying to get Amy Poehler involved?

[327] And that, That, to me, is there has to be a decisive moment where you get over your sense of whatever, demure about it or taking your time or not risking, and you say, we're going to go for it and we're going to ask a famous person who we really admire and love if they can help us out.

[328] It was quite a moment to do that.

[329] Yeah, so we had done the web series for two years.

[330] We had about 34 episodes.

[331] When I look back on that time, like, there's no other time like that.

[332] I miss that hustle.

[333] And we had all these people from the community helping us make all these episodes that are that are all like in other shows and movies.

[334] It's just incredible.

[335] Directing like someone's directing SNL now.

[336] Someone's directing Fallons.

[337] Like all this stuff.

[338] Actors are on shows.

[339] It's just pretty incredible.

[340] Like we all started at the same time and I love that about it.

[341] But yeah, I think I. I think we, Alana and I both were at UCB for about three years at that point, couldn't get on any of those house teams.

[342] unless someone really knew you, they might not have thought that you were, it's hard for me to think about this with you, but you might not have been the one that they would have thought would become you.

[343] Yes, exactly, 100%.

[344] I do not think anyone.

[345] I used to do a lot of comedy bits growing up, but I just, I don't, I don't think I'm the typical, like I'm not a stand -up either.

[346] I just don't come off as really funny.

[347] I don't think unless I'm in my zone, kind of, unless I'm doing it.

[348] And Alana and I just couldn't break through.

[349] we weren't that, we weren't like the, you know, it was also only like two women per team on the, on, on, at UCB.

[350] Which is fair and should still be the allotment.

[351] Yeah.

[352] Well, anyway, let's go.

[353] The producers did say for me to not go into this territory.

[354] Well, listen, I'm sorry.

[355] They're always cutting this part out and I don't see why.

[356] Someone will get really mad.

[357] Someone listening will be like, well, God damn it.

[358] Why isn't Conan?

[359] They'll turn it off right.

[360] Yeah, exactly.

[361] Exactly.

[362] But we'll talk about that in a second because it's a real.

[363] No, but it was just that there were kind of two out of eight slots and it was just such a hard thing to get on these teams.

[364] And we just, you know, I was terrible at auditioning.

[365] Still am very bad at it.

[366] I just don't think I'm the person that you think is going to do comedy.

[367] And so that's why we made the web series because our dynamic was so unique to us and we just could not stop cracking each other up.

[368] But we're like, let's just fucking make something with us.

[369] And then we did it, and it started, it was just so fun.

[370] And it was the first thing in my comedy career where I was like, I think this has some legs to it.

[371] Maybe we'll get like staffed from this.

[372] Again, we didn't even have the confidence to think that we could be the thing.

[373] Like, well, someone else will hire us to write for them, you know, because that's sort of what's ingrained, I think, in a lot of women.

[374] Yes.

[375] To be honest, maybe, I don't know.

[376] Yeah.

[377] And so we were just having so much fun.

[378] And then it got to a point, we got this manager, and she was like, I think you guys should pitch this as a show.

[379] And while we were coming up with that, we wanted to end the web series.

[380] And Amy owns UCB.

[381] And I had seen that she was in town, like, accepting an award.

[382] She's like, what, I don't know, on Instagram.

[383] I don't know.

[384] Online I saw she had accepted an award.

[385] Let's ask her to be in this finale.

[386] And we just shot, we would steal shots all over New York City.

[387] And we asked her to be in it through.

[388] the guy who used to Do you stalk her?

[389] Did you like find her at a restaurant?

[390] I mean, that's the other thing too is that it feels like this is like a Lucy episode you know, from the 50s where, where, because it really did have that sound of like, hey, Elana, did you see this?

[391] Amy Poehler's in town.

[392] It says right here in the Daily Bugle, you know?

[393] She's over, she's, she's, and then Ilana's like, yeah, apparently she eats lunch every day at McGinty's.

[394] Yeah, yeah.

[395] And we show up lunch with like a costumes on as if she wouldn't even know who were.

[396] Right, the big mustaches and stuff.

[397] And, hey, your order, have you heard of the Broad City Girls?

[398] Oh, ladies, the plot fell through.

[399] Your mustache fell off.

[400] But I like your spunk, and I'm going to executive produce your new show.

[401] But the real story is that the artistic director at UCB had sent her, I guess, which is awesome of him, Anthony King, who wrote on Broad City later.

[402] had sent her our videos.

[403] And one of our teachers at UCB, this guy, Will Hines, had sort of like owed us a favor.

[404] And we asked him if you would ever like send it to Amy.

[405] And he did.

[406] And then she wrote us an email.

[407] And she had watched it and loved it and was excited to do it.

[408] And that moment, I got to say, like, there's been a lot of moments, especially in the Broad City journey that have been absolutely insane.

[409] Like when the show, got picked up when it kept you know it kept coming on your show like truly like out of this world moments for us but that one just amy wanting to be in our web episode was just the turning point of i don't know i was at someone's birthday party i remember at the astoria beer garden i got an email and i fucking left the party and i was like this is it she's going to be on our web series and i was like that's it that's like it was one of the happiest days of my life You know, what's funny that you say is that I'm doing shows now out of the Largo Theater.

[410] That's because of the pandemic.

[411] We've been taping our show at the Largo Theater.

[412] The Largo Theater is where I took that first improv class, where I walked in and put cash in a jar, and there's a little tiny room.

[413] But that room is right where I'm taping my show now, and it's 35 years later, I think.

[414] And I'm sometimes we finish taping.

[415] I've shown you the room, right?

[416] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[417] I'm always saying to Sona, come into this small.

[418] dark room and she doesn't go.

[419] Yeah, so now, I don't think you should go, actually.

[420] No, right after I get his drugs, come in a small dark room.

[421] Bring the bag with you.

[422] Bring the drugs and then come into this.

[423] Now it's going to feel like I'm stabbing you, but that's not a, it's just a butter knife.

[424] Don't be a baby.

[425] But we, that room is right.

[426] It's about a 15 step walk from where I'm taping my show after all these years.

[427] And I go back and I look in that room sometimes and I can't.

[428] I'm able to imagine a lot.

[429] I imagine things for a living, but I can't imagine that.

[430] And I think you must have that feeling of, you know, now you're very in demand and you're promoting this massive movie by like the guys that made the Lego movie and you're like a centerpiece of that movie.

[431] And going back to those times when you just thought, I think something's supposed to happen with me, but I don't know how it's all going to happen.

[432] I feel like you've had that and that you're also someone who's sensitive enough to appreciate it because not everybody does.

[433] Yeah, I mean, I think I try to as much as I can just sort of like clock, not not clock, like check, check in and see that, that curve.

[434] Or it is kind of those full circle moments where it, like Katie in the movie that you brought up is this artist and is trying to figure herself out and does kind of feel.

[435] about the same things.

[436] Like, I think she's a filmmaker and, and, and getting to play a character like that does make me, I just feel, I felt so, uh, I related so much to her because as a kid, I did feel like that, like I had this like artistic, I was just like always making stuff.

[437] And then it sort of just changed as I got older into what kind of stuff I was making.

[438] So that's like a full circle thing to me where I'm like, yeah, you're, Lord and Miller, I'm in a Lord and Miller movie where it's just insane to me. You know, it's funny because I was thinking about it, like the Mitchells versus the machine, which is the movie that you're promoting.

[439] I'm also, I think, a small part of this movie.

[440] They brought me in to do some, to do a voice of a computer.

[441] And these guys, they were so much fun to work with.

[442] They just, they were just so supportive and delightful and creative.

[443] And it was really fun.

[444] I had a blast.

[445] And then I got like a lovely little note from them saying, thanks and enjoy your 11 seconds of the movie.

[446] But, so I haven't seen the film yet, but Sona saw it.

[447] Yep.

[448] And you were high as a kite after you saw that.

[449] I mean, just, just.

[450] Loved it.

[451] Absolutely loved it.

[452] Loved, love, love, love, loved it.

[453] And I, you know, I just, I want everybody I know to see it.

[454] Anybody who, like, any father who has a daughter, anybody who's part of a family.

[455] I just think it's such a great movie.

[456] and it's so fun, and I just absolutely loved it.

[457] Oh, that's awesome to hear.

[458] That's, I haven't really talked to anybody that's seen it.

[459] That's not in it.

[460] That's awesome.

[461] Yeah, I thought the same way.

[462] Yeah, they sent the link for Conan, and then I just watched it.

[463] Yeah, and I was, I didn't, I want to watch it with my kids.

[464] Yeah.

[465] Because I think they're going to really like it.

[466] And so I don't know, so I was really excited to watch it with them, and I thought, I don't want to watch it on some, I want to watch it the right way.

[467] I don't know if that's going to be possible, but I really, I'm hoping I can take them to a movie theater and we'll all just wear masks or something.

[468] I don't know if that's going to happen.

[469] I don't know about that unless you sort of rent your own movie theater and do that.

[470] But I think, yeah, that's what I mean?

[471] Oh, you're right.

[472] Yeah, of course.

[473] Oh, I thought you didn't.

[474] Did I meant make it clear?

[475] I'm very wealthy and I live in a bubble.

[476] Did you not understand?

[477] When I say, take them to a movie, what the fuck is going on this interview?

[478] Abby, when I mean go to a movie, I mean, Sona calls and says, it's him.

[479] And they know it's Conan.

[480] And they shut down the theater for the night and I just pay whatever the cost, however many people would have gone.

[481] And then each one of my kids drives over there in a different Hummer made of rainfall.

[482] And that's what you meant by watching it the right way.

[483] Yeah.

[484] That's the only way.

[485] I said right way, but I almost slipped and said only way.

[486] But, oh, God, no, go to a movie theater where they're, I mean, I'm not even talking.

[487] about pandemic stuff, but like with other people and stuff?

[488] No, I can't do that.

[489] Abby, when you get to my level, you'll see.

[490] I'm excited to see.

[491] Someday, and look, I hope it happens for you.

[492] But I'm also going to tell you that there's a downside to it, which is I go places.

[493] And Sonia, Sonia, you're with me. It's like a mania that people tearing at my clothes and trying to get a hold of me. No, I don't think it is.

[494] It's never been like that, actually.

[495] Some people will glance over at you with like knowingly, but you've never, that's never happened.

[496] Where people have gotten crazy.

[497] Um, okay.

[498] The glances feel invasive.

[499] Oh, okay.

[500] They're invasive glances.

[501] Their glances are tearing your clothes off.

[502] They're undressing me with their eyes.

[503] Their glances are undressing me. So, um, but no, I, I, you know, I love also that your character, it's almost like they really knew you because your character is someone who, it's, it almost feels somewhat autobiographical your character in Mitchell's versus the machines, like somewhat, someone who hasn't quite figured out how they fit into the world.

[504] It's neat that, I mean, obviously, these people are incredibly good at what they do, but that they knew to go to you.

[505] Yeah, I mean, I hope that's what happened.

[506] I wonder if there was a line of other actors before me. I know, I don't think so.

[507] I mean, you know, everybody wants to be in a Lord and Miller movie.

[508] They just, everybody wants to.

[509] So there was no one ahead of you.

[510] I know in my case, They were turned down by a bunch of people.

[511] And then Conan was the go -to at the end.

[512] Remember Sona?

[513] Yeah.

[514] They called.

[515] And they kept saying he doesn't have to do it.

[516] In fact, it's okay with us if he doesn't.

[517] And then I came anyway to the voiceover sessions.

[518] And they were not pleased when I walked in.

[519] Yeah, you had me call them and ask them if you can be in it.

[520] Okay.

[521] Do you have to tell people like, okay.

[522] All right.

[523] Let's not.

[524] No, no, we're not going to edit that.

[525] Well, yeah, we'll probably take that out of it.

[526] No one needs to know that I randomly call about it.

[527] projects.

[528] I'm constantly calling around town.

[529] And saying, you know.

[530] I am free on Friday.

[531] Once upon a time in Hollywood, if Pitt doesn't show up, I'm there, you know.

[532] I'll take my shirt off on a roof.

[533] I would have.

[534] Then you'll get some asses into some seats.

[535] Listen, that would have, I would have, yeah.

[536] That would have been a hit, I think.

[537] You couldn't even finish that sentence.

[538] Oh, Abby, God bless you.

[539] Oh, boy.

[540] I would, if I could have, your dog is, I can see that your dog is behind you on a bed and your dog, when I said that, put both paws.

[541] Yeah, it's a sofa.

[542] I'm not in bed.

[543] Well, no, not a bed.

[544] I'm sitting on the floor.

[545] It's very bed like that sofa.

[546] Because I don't have a desk.

[547] You're on my coffee table.

[548] Well, I'm going to buy you a desk, said the liar.

[549] I also love that your animation style because I've seen your, I've been very impressed with your art, your drawings, and I like that even, I don't know, some of the drawings in this movie feel like it's evocative of the kind of style that you would like.

[550] I, yeah, I mean, I love the way that they incorporated all the different sort of mediums that Katie would use in filmmaking.

[551] So, yeah, from the drawings to the shots and all that, I mean, I don't know if that was part of it, but, and I wonder what, A lot of people, I'm just going to say that, a lot of people think I did, like, the Broad City animations, I didn't.

[552] Is that what you thought?

[553] I kind of assumed, just because I know your, I know your, I know your artwork, and I really like it.

[554] And, uh, and also I like that your, your drawing style is, I'm trying to think who it reminds me of, because it's, it's got like elements of like, I want to say a Roschast or someone, but it's also quite different.

[555] Yeah, I really, I really, anyway, I really like your style and so I assumed that you would have done the animation for I tried to at first actually I did it for the initial pilot and then I felt like you know what I don't need to wear all the hats on this and I know someone who can do this way better than me and we got this guy Mike Perry who I had been sort of geeking out about he's this incredible illustrator and he did he did all those animations well now you've broken this is an important rule you've got to learn Abby as your you know, as your climb continues.

[556] If someone thinks you did something and they're complimenting you, you just say, oh yeah, thanks, you take it.

[557] And then you get the angry call.

[558] Yeah, and then later you get the angry call from the actual illustrator.

[559] But fuck you.

[560] Yeah, I should have to just taking that credit.

[561] Just say, yeah.

[562] Thank you.

[563] I guess, yeah.

[564] And then also maybe, yeah, Mitchell's versus machine, you know.

[565] I'm not saying I did the animation, but I'm also not saying I didn't do the animation.

[566] I'm okay yeah I'm not I'm not saying I just want you and then of course you're going to get a call from Lord Miller what are you doing this is a weird that's very strange of you to insinuate that it's a very strange press campaign for me to go on yeah but screw them too you know um you got to break some eggs if you're going to make something that involves broken eggs as an old saying that I'm very fond of you know I heard that you write letters and that also made me think is this woman just not the perfect, perfect woman in every way.

[567] You write letters.

[568] I write letters to people.

[569] And you know what they do?

[570] They don't write me back.

[571] But they call me or they send me an email and say, that's so cool that you wrote me this letter.

[572] But they don't write me back on paper.

[573] Because I've been trying to get that going.

[574] I walk to a post office box, a mailbox, if you will, and I drop letters in there.

[575] And people will call me on the phone or they'll zoom me or something and say, hey, got the letter.

[576] That's great.

[577] Loved it.

[578] But they don't write back.

[579] What about you?

[580] That would make me so upset if somebody called me to tell me they got my letter.

[581] Yes.

[582] No. That person might be out of my life after that.

[583] That's the whole point is to start the correspondence.

[584] How rare is it to get a letter?

[585] I wish I, I haven't done it in a while, but I love the art of the handwritten letter.

[586] I've been trying to find the right stationary because I do it very randomly.

[587] And so I'm using random notes and cards and I really want to get, do you have a thing?

[588] Do you have?

[589] Yeah, Will, you can actually grab it.

[590] It's in, look in one of those drawers.

[591] I want to show Abby, and this is the geekiest thing I've done in a while.

[592] I can't wait to show Abby Jacobson my stationery.

[593] I'm going to probably ask you, did you get it made?

[594] Is it have your name on it?

[595] Oh, yes, I did.

[596] go on the left hand, now go down one.

[597] You're just rifling through my door like a thief, and he's wearing a mask.

[598] I love it, this guy who's helping me out.

[599] Do you see?

[600] Do you see the, yes, bring me one of those, please.

[601] Just that one.

[602] I love it.

[603] You were going through my desk and you're wearing a mask.

[604] You look like a 1920s burglar.

[605] So this is what I made.

[606] Wow.

[607] Classy.

[608] Well, it's old -fashioned.

[609] It's actually, I talked to a guy and he said that he could use the same font that like the White House is used since literally 1885, which is a very, like, specific font.

[610] And it's from the desk of Conan O 'Brien.

[611] And then I like to write sort of formal weird letters to people on this old Olympia typewriter that I have and send them off to them.

[612] And yeah, I don't think anyone's ever written me back.

[613] They really love the letter and they say, oh my God, I really love that.

[614] Thank you.

[615] But they don't write back because I don't even think they know how to do that.

[616] I mean, I would write you back.

[617] Can I, I don't think I've told this story.

[618] I have a crazy letter experience.

[619] Okay.

[620] Okay.

[621] So I wrote a book a couple years ago called I Might Regret this and I was doing a book tour.

[622] I'll try to make this as quick as possible even though it's one of the most incredible stories I have.

[623] And Tom Hanks is in front of me at the book event.

[624] And we're like sharing like a dressing room area.

[625] And I'm doing, the project I'm working on right now is a readaptation of a legal of their own for TV.

[626] Yes.

[627] And so this was in 2018, though, and I was still, I was working on it then.

[628] And so we're in the dressing room, and I was like, I've never met Tom Hanks.

[629] I was like, this is the time.

[630] This is my opportunity.

[631] I was like, hey.

[632] And I said, you know, this is nuts.

[633] I'm making a re -adaptation.

[634] And he's like, what are you doing about the coach character?

[635] And I was like, don't worry.

[636] We're not touching the coach.

[637] We can't.

[638] You can't.

[639] You can't even go there, you know?

[640] And so he said to me, he said, do you want to exchange books?

[641] And I was like, yes, Mr. Hanks, of course.

[642] And then I went along, I went on stage and I did my thing and then lived my life.

[643] And then I'm back in New York and I'm editing Broad City.

[644] I'm in the Edit Bay.

[645] And the prose producer comes and brings me a package.

[646] And it's from Tom Hanks.

[647] And there's a cup and saucer from him because I write about in the book how I can't stand saucers because they're like messy and coffee gets everywhere, whatever.

[648] And then a typed letter to me all about my book.

[649] Isn't that delightful?

[650] And like how he related to it and how much he loved it and how the book is about figuring myself out sort of late in life.

[651] And it was so inspiring.

[652] And it, yeah, it was just incredible.

[653] I wrote him back.

[654] He did not.

[655] He didn't, we didn't start, he didn't write me back.

[656] Fine.

[657] But I did write him back.

[658] And I sent him a mug without a saucer.

[659] Nice.

[660] I thought it was a classy move.

[661] Listen, Tom Hanks's assistant is very good at writing letters that you are sure.

[662] No, do not even do that to me. Hey, I'm sorry.

[663] Everyone knows.

[664] Tom is not a friendly, he's not a friendly person.

[665] And he has an assistant who just has the right touch.

[666] No. And, yeah, I mean, he has sent me cup and sauce for so many times.

[667] Isn't that unbelievable?

[668] No, no, no. Well, you know what?

[669] I would say it's unbelievable if I didn't know that fellow somewhat, and he is an incredible gem.

[670] I mean, it's boring, everyone telling there Tom Hanks is a really nice person, but he's absurdly nice and thoughtful, and yes, and he's also a true typewriter fanatic.

[671] Yeah, that's what reminded me. This sounds like I'm flexing and, and, I only know that word because Sona taught it to me, trying desperately to pretend that I'm not 85 years old.

[672] But I had a Christmas party here once, and Tom and Rita live not too far away, and they stopped by.

[673] And at one point, I'm like, where Tom Hanks go?

[674] And he and Nick Offerman had come upstairs, and they found my typewriter in my office, and they were clacking away on my typewriter.

[675] And, you know, like with anyone, else would be like, what are you doing in here?

[676] What's going on?

[677] I was just so overjoyed because Nick Offerman is this guy who really wanted to be born in like 1805 and probably should have been.

[678] He should have like a dairy farm, you know, and have fought in the Civil War.

[679] But he and Tom Hanks were just clacking away on my typewriter.

[680] And I tried to for a second be like, you have no right.

[681] But God damn it.

[682] It was these two great men.

[683] Nick's like, checking out the wood of your desk.

[684] Yes, Nick Hoffman, like, yeah, this is a fine mahogany.

[685] Now, the joist here feels like it could be repointed.

[686] I have an all and an ad in my, I could fix that right away for you if I wanted.

[687] I want to mention another name of someone who I really admire, because I know you're working with her, I believe, on a league of their own.

[688] On this re -adaptation, it's Darcy Cardin.

[689] Yep, know her well.

[690] She's working on it as well.

[691] Yeah, Darcy's one of my best friends.

[692] And we came up together at UCB.

[693] Oh, I didn't know that.

[694] I've known Darcy for almost 15 years.

[695] Yeah, probably 15 years.

[696] And we met in a commercial acting class, like commercial auditioning class.

[697] Terrible.

[698] But we like sort of zoned in on each other.

[699] Yeah, Darcy is in the show, which is so fun.

[700] It's more of a dromedy, the reincarnation, but it's got such hard.

[701] laughs from Darcy and Kate Burland is in it as well, like from the comedy world that I knew before.

[702] And yeah, I love Darcy.

[703] Darcy was on Broad City for a little bit, too.

[704] She's just brilliant.

[705] And she's always really funny all the time.

[706] And she told me, I didn't remember this, but she said, I met her years before she got on television.

[707] And I said, was I nice?

[708] Or, you know, like, I'm always trying to be nice to people.

[709] I want to think I'm a nice person.

[710] But I was thinking, well I hope because I'm such a fan of hers and here I've met her and she said oh you were doing bits the whole time for me I was like oh yeah my wife was like yeah that's him this receptionist seems funny I'm gonna try and do 20 minutes of weird bits with her you like go down the steps oh I was doing like pretending to have a canoe talking in different voices and she was doing shtick I think and then she I probably, by the time I left, she was like, wow, what a needy, needy man. It was at a therapist office, right?

[711] I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[712] Yes, they were trying.

[713] No, no, it's fair.

[714] Let's talk about it.

[715] It's fair.

[716] It was therapy that failed, but you got to try.

[717] Well, I'm, you know, I don't know, this is just, this is the conversation I've wanted to have with you for a really long time, so it makes me happy that we were able to make this happen.

[718] It makes me so happy.

[719] This has been so.

[720] a joy and such a pleasure to get to talk to you both.

[721] And I'll tell you something, well, you included Sona in it and that, oh, man. Uh -huh.

[722] Damn it.

[723] Uh -huh.

[724] No, I love you, I love you, Sona.

[725] I love you, too.

[726] Well, I just said that for legal reasons.

[727] I know.

[728] I hope you had a good time.

[729] Oh, my gosh.

[730] I had such a fun time.

[731] I truly, when I got the email from whoever being like, will you be on Conan?

[732] I was like, of course.

[733] Like, of course.

[734] It's like my honor to do it.

[735] That's really nice.

[736] So thank you guys for having me, really.

[737] Your people haggled over money for a while.

[738] We had to, that got unpleasant.

[739] Yeah.

[740] No, I do always pay for appearances, so.

[741] They paid us $150 ,000.

[742] Wait, that's what it landed on?

[743] That's what it ended up on, yeah.

[744] And Lorne and Miller kicked in.

[745] Hold on, hold, wait, wait, wait.

[746] It was $150 ,000.

[747] Yeah, it cost.

[748] From, you had to pay $150 ,000 to be on this podcast.

[749] And the money's come through.

[750] We have the cash.

[751] That's not refundable.

[752] All right.

[753] gonna have to, I'm gonna have to make a couple calls.

[754] I actually have to go.

[755] Okay.

[756] Yeah, yeah, you're gonna write, you're gonna write a letter.

[757] You're not gonna write a, make a call.

[758] I'm gonna write, I have to go and type a letter to my lawyer.

[759] And he's like, four angry letters to my lawyer.

[760] Yeah, this was, uh, please everyone, do yourself a favor.

[761] This movie's coming out, uh, very soon, it's at the end of April.

[762] April 30th.

[763] April 30th.

[764] There you go.

[765] See, you were professional when I wasn't.

[766] And I would say I want to finish that note, which is, people find their people that is one of the truest things I've discovered about life is that you spend the early part of it if you're like us and there's a lot of us out there there's a lot of people listening right now young people who feel they don't fit in they don't quite know what their role is they think they have something to offer but they have no idea what it is I do think that a lot of the early part of your life and no one illustrates this better than you Abby is having the faith to go out there and you will find your people.

[767] And you did.

[768] And you found all these people.

[769] And you'll keep finding more of them.

[770] But that's, I don't know, that's sort of the magic of this.

[771] It really is one of those pictures where someone heads out on a road.

[772] You know, Dorothy just keeps meeting all these people along the way.

[773] And then you can't imagine her without them.

[774] And I, I don't know.

[775] I think that's quite profound.

[776] I'm glad you found your people.

[777] And then because you found your people, we found you, which is really nice.

[778] So, Oh, wow.

[779] Pretty nice, huh?

[780] That was really nice ending.

[781] That was, you really brought it.

[782] And I did bring it.

[783] Your dog behind you looks very unimpressed.

[784] He's very nervous.

[785] Oh, no, he knows he's been listening to a jackass.

[786] Let's do a little review the reviewers where I dig through Apple Podcasts to see what people have said about the podcast and you guys can respond.

[787] Does that sound good?

[788] Yes, we must let the people's voices be heard.

[789] Play away.

[790] This is from Goldblum noises, which I'm assuming is referring to this podcast.

[791] Remember when Jeff Goldblum was on and he made you and he both made a bunch of sexual jazz noises?

[792] I remember it every night.

[793] So then the rest of this is unrelated.

[794] But five stars.

[795] The title is 11 hours in all caps one day.

[796] It goes like this.

[797] I was just informed by Spotify in my 2020 roundup that I listened to 11 episodes of Conan O 'Brien needs a friend in one day.

[798] If that sounds sad, everyone should also know on my hinge dating profile, my answer to the prompt, quote, I am weirdly attracted to, blank, unquote, is Conan O 'Brien.

[799] In all seriousness, this podcast was my constant companion this year, especially when I was growing through a tough breakup.

[800] I love the whole group's dynamic and cannot wait until the day someone on Hinge message me saying they love Conan as much as me. Thanks, guys.

[801] What a lovely thing to hear from, who is this, did this person give their name or no?

[802] Yeah, Goldblum noises.

[803] Well, okay, all right.

[804] Then he's...

[805] That's all I have.

[806] Well, Goldblum noises, that is so nice.

[807] Wow, 11 episodes.

[808] I wonder what the side effects of listening to 11 hours of this is for someone.

[809] I wonder if he, you know, had any kind of bottle.

[810] Well, yeah, that's true.

[811] That's true.

[812] I don't know why I...

[813] You know what?

[814] I'm going to say it doesn't matter.

[815] I don't...

[816] I'm unlike you, Sona, who's very sexy.

[817] and all obsessed with gender identities.

[818] I don't care.

[819] I am very gender fluid, and I don't care.

[820] It's not important to me. Okay.

[821] They said weirdly attracted to Conan O 'Brien.

[822] Now, this gets complicated.

[823] Do you find that little needle in the haystack?

[824] Well, why?

[825] That was all compliments.

[826] I know.

[827] I always find the tiny little piece of glass in the snow cone.

[828] It's weirdly attracted to Conan O 'Brien.

[829] I listen to these now the same way you listen to them.

[830] I'm like, what is it he's going to hear that's going to upset him?

[831] And I thought it was when the person said, I'm waiting for someone to tell me that they also get the Conan O 'Brien thing.

[832] Oh, no, thanks a lot.

[833] I hadn't thought.

[834] I hadn't latched onto that.

[835] But now, yes, now it's clear to me that Goldblum noises put it out there that I like Conan and has been waiting and waiting and waiting for someone to say me too and has heard nothing.

[836] Goldblum noises dropped a penny into the I find Conan at, well and heard no splash.

[837] No splash.

[838] Oh, man. Wow.

[839] There's probably a lot more writing on that hinge profile, you know.

[840] It's not just the Conan line.

[841] No, Goldblum noises sounds like an incredible person.

[842] Regardless of gender, I'm going to say Gobloom noises sounds like a top -notch human being, and I am just going to focus on the fact that because Gobloom Noises was kind enough to mention me as someone that they found attractive, either physically or a personality, that I'm responsible for no one responding.

[843] No. Yes, that's what I'm going to.

[844] We're talking about a person who's listened to with ads over 12 hours of this podcast in a day.

[845] So you got to - What does that do to someone?

[846] I wonder if you put this person, Goldblum Noises, through an MRI, would it show up somewhere?

[847] Would the doctor say, oh, my God.

[848] Have you been drinking liquid lead?

[849] No, what are you talking about?

[850] What were you doing?

[851] Don't tell me. And then the doctor said, wait a minute, you haven't been listening to 11 straight hours of Conan O 'Brien needs a friend, have you?

[852] And the guy or girl says, oh, yeah.

[853] And then the doctor goes, are you Goldblum noises?

[854] Oh, yeah.

[855] What is that?

[856] That's Jeff Goldblum.

[857] He just a little, hmm.

[858] I've got to, oh, I'm just curious how it's, hmm, come in.

[859] Oh, I thought we were still in the doctor's office.

[860] Well, I did too.

[861] Did he come into the doctor's office?

[862] Yeah, Goldblum's hiding.

[863] He's, whenever you're having a very personal exam in a doctor's office, Jeff Goldblum is always in the closet.

[864] I'm just telling you.

[865] Anyone listening right now, if you've ever had to take your clothes off at a doctor's office and have a very personal exam, and then you hear from behind a wall, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[866] Oh, yes.

[867] That's Jeff Goldblum.

[868] Knowing he was there would somehow make me feel better.

[869] Me too.

[870] I can't explain that.

[871] Yeah, me too.

[872] I would feel reassured.

[873] He's a very nice guy.

[874] And if anyone had to be hiding in the closet, making weird, semi -erotic noises, I prefer to be Jeff Goldblum.

[875] Yeah.

[876] Anyway, I, Goldblum noises, thank you for that very nice review and very kind of you.

[877] Feel free to take me off of your profile.

[878] If it's harming your...

[879] What?

[880] If it's harming your life in any way, don't want to be responsible.

[881] You know what I mean?

[882] You could put someone else down as a big influence.

[883] She didn't say you were an influence.

[884] Oh.

[885] Or he.

[886] Why are you doing that?

[887] They just said they were weirdly attracted.

[888] I just want to correct.

[889] Okay.

[890] So not an influence.

[891] And, hey, first of all, if someone's listened to me for 11 hours straight, I've influenced them.

[892] Second of all, why do you keep interrupting and saying these things that just make me feel like shit?

[893] You know what?

[894] You're right.

[895] I don't know why I'm doing that.

[896] It really, really, I'm piling on.

[897] And I shouldn't do that and you're right and I'm sorry but yeah she didn't say or he didn't say influence they said they were weirdly attracted you went and did it again you just apologized for doing it and then did it again listen sona i hear things the way i hear things the way i want to hear them to create a better world for myself it's like people that only listen watch fox news because they want to have that world reflected back at them and they don't look at anything else i have certain thoughts and so what i do when I hear these critiques of the show is I make up what it really meant.

[898] And then when you say that's not what they said.

[899] What they said was no one, they put your name in there and no one's biting.

[900] Thanks, Sona.

[901] You're right.

[902] You're right and I'm sorry.

[903] Well, that's not the point, Sona, is to prove you wrong again and again and again.

[904] That's not what this podcast is about, I don't know why it happens so frequently.

[905] I want to get a quick plug -in for a friend of mine.

[906] That's a long sigh.

[907] I want to get a quick plug -in for a near and a dear friend of mine from my Simpsons writing days.

[908] If you're a Simpsons fan, and many people are, for good reason, you know Mike the name Mike Reese.

[909] Mike is at the Simpsons for, God, I think he's been there since Bart was born.

[910] I think, you know, there's three seasons of the Simpsons early on where there's no Bart. And the show started in the late 70s, but Mike has been there, you know, forever.

[911] He's been at the Simpsons throughout, and he's.

[912] He's been one of the major creative forces behind The Simpsons.

[913] He's a brilliantly funny guy.

[914] I've known him for so long.

[915] And he has a podcast now called What Am I Doing Here?

[916] And you should check it out because what Mike does is he travels the world.

[917] He's been to 134 countries.

[918] And I think he's been kicked out of 131 of them.

[919] And he goes with his wife.

[920] And his wife loves to travel.

[921] And it's called What Am I Doing Here?

[922] Because I think he finds himself in situations and places.

[923] And he doesn't know how he got.

[924] there, why he got there.

[925] I think he's been to the North Pole.

[926] He's gone to Iraq.

[927] He goes everywhere with his lovely wife, Denise.

[928] So check out that podcast because Mike's a really funny guy.

[929] If you like The Simpsons, if you like that kind of sense of humor, just check it out.

[930] What am I doing here with Mike Reese?

[931] Available wherever your podcasts are purchased or created.

[932] Conan O 'Brien needs a friend with Sonam of Sessian and Conan O 'Brien as himself.

[933] by me, Matt Goreley, executive produced by Adam Sacks, Joanna Salataroff, and Jeff Ross at Team Coco, and Colin Anderson and Chris Bannon at Earwolf, theme song by The White Stripes.

[934] Incidental music by Jimmy Vivino.

[935] Our supervising producer is Aaron Blair, and our associate talent producer is Jennifer Samples.

[936] The show is engineered by Will Beckton.

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