Kids Who Complain: 2 Big Insights

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[24] So you save up all this money for a really cool trip to Disney or Universal.

[25] or some cool, likely expensive adventure that you've been looking forward to.

[26] And the entire time, your strong will child complains, literally the entire time about every activity, making everybody miserable.

[27] And then three weeks later, the grandparents come over and your child tells them, what an amazing time he had.

[28] And you're like, what the, right?

[29] Like that.

[30] So I have two big insights to share that will help you, with this.

[31] It'll give you insight into your kids and into yourself.

[32] And that's what we're going to talk about on today's episode of the Calm Parenting Podcast.

[33] So welcome.

[34] This is Kirk Martin, founder, Celebrate Calm .com.

[35] You can find us at CelebrateCalm .com.

[36] We had this experience with these kids at our home when we did these camps back in the day where we'd have 8, 10, 12, 15, Strongwell kids, kids on the spectrum in our home, and we'd plan these cool activities.

[37] And they would complain all day long, right?

[38] And you'd go, you bend over backwards to make it, fun right you try to eliminate all the awful things and the stuff that we had to do as kids right you try to take that on yourself and that they still won't they still won't appreciate it and so we also had this happen with our son Casey so if you never need any help you contact our son Casey C -A -S -E -Y at celebrate calm .com tell us about your family what are you struggling with whether it's this or one of the other thousand issues that you struggle with and we will reply back to you If you need help with any of our programs, if you need help financially, just love us now.

[39] Okay?

[40] And we'll do that.

[41] We just posted some new travel dates on both the East Coast and the West Coast and everywhere in between for this coming fall and back -to -school time in a couple boot camps.

[42] So this question about kids complaining just came up a couple times recently, once on a phone consultation, and once from parents who signed up for the back -to -school boot camps because it gives me a chance to specifically.

[43] address individual issues and for everybody else in the room to hear and learn from that.

[44] So it's one of my favorite things to do.

[45] So these separate families just got back from their early summer vacation experience the same thing.

[46] So two huge insights and then we'll go through each of them individually.

[47] Number one, oftentimes our kids express themselves and their disappointment at a greater level than they actually feel inside.

[48] So what you hear sounds awful, but inside, they don't often feel it at that same level.

[49] Second insight, they're complaining, their boredom does not obligate you to fix it for them.

[50] And that's where we get stuck a lot as parents.

[51] So let's take this one by one.

[52] number one our kids often express themselves in their disappointment at a greater level than they feel inside it's just how they process disappointment frustration it's external see because look you work through feelings by talking by hearing it come out right just going into your brain and trying to think through everything and make decisions all the time is really difficult until you verbalize it And look, it's also better in ways than bottling it up because some of you complain about your kids not sharing their feelings and then you complain when they do share them.

[53] And I get that.

[54] And I'd like to be able to say I've got a script to give you so that your kids get to learn to be grateful and just express gratitude all the time.

[55] But I found that it doesn't work well in life to convince people to feel the way that you want them to feel.

[56] it makes everybody frustrated.

[57] So I want you to model it for your kids.

[58] Look, if you want your kids to be grateful, practice gratitude.

[59] Live a life of gratitude even when things go wrong.

[60] If you want your kids to be giving and selfless, then model that.

[61] Allow someone to cut in front of you in the line at the grocery store, at the post office while driving.

[62] Good luck with that.

[63] Even when you're in a hurry, because they do notice that stuff.

[64] But don't lecture them about it.

[65] Don't get snotty.

[66] And like, Well, you just, nobody responds well to that, right?

[67] And we know this.

[68] It usually takes some kind of moving personal experience or some maturity to give a larger perspective on life anyway, right?

[69] Look, I want to normalize some of this.

[70] Little kids are supposed to be a little self -centered, right?

[71] Because when they wake up, everything's new to them.

[72] They're too busy processing stuff to see the larger picture.

[73] Think about being a teenager.

[74] you and I were teenagers, we didn't have great perspective on life.

[75] We weren't thinking about long -term considerations all the time.

[76] Sometimes I did, but most of the time, you know what I was doing?

[77] Trying to figure out in the moment what I wanted to do, right?

[78] And I was impulsions.

[79] Like, my friends are going to this thing.

[80] I have to figure out how to get to that thing and how to manipulate my parents into doing that.

[81] That's normal.

[82] I'm not saying it's right.

[83] It's just normal, so don't get freaked out about that.

[84] And I don't want you to accept.

[85] your kids to be like little grown -ups yet.

[86] Do I want them to learn how to be mature and make good decisions and be responsible for themselves?

[87] Absolutely.

[88] But I don't project the responsibilities of a 40 -year -old adult onto a 7 -year -old or a 17 -year -old.

[89] Does that make sense?

[90] I want to be responsible, own their own emotions, own their behavior.

[91] But I don't expect them to be 40 -year -olds because you weren't like that when you were a kid unless you probably grew up in a home where one of your parents maybe was an alcoholic or a parent died or you had a lot of trauma in your life and then you were overly responsible as a child and that causes a lot of issues now right because now you can get resentful or you're overly responsible for everybody else and you develop some really bad patterns where you take everything personally so that's a separate issue but we have to deal with those things, right?

[92] So here are some options when your kids are complaining.

[93] This is a fun one.

[94] Experiment with it.

[95] Join in.

[96] Just join in.

[97] Yeah, you know, I know exactly what you mean.

[98] I hate when that happens.

[99] Yeah, these lines, this is miserable sitting in the sun.

[100] Whose idea was this anyway?

[101] Right?

[102] Sometimes when you join in, it's that acknowledgement and validation point, right?

[103] Like, when you, when you are having a bad day, or let's say someone does something and hurts you, and you bring it up with one of your friends, you're like, you know, Sally said this to me and it really hurt.

[104] You don't want your friends saying, oh, you're just overreacting.

[105] I'm sure she didn't mean.

[106] What you want to hear at first is, oh, man, if my friend had said that or done that to me, I'd be really hurt.

[107] That's what you want to hear.

[108] So, you're going to hear.

[109] So, experiment a little bit with joining in and valid.

[110] Yeah, I'm frustrated too.

[111] Yeah, sometimes this part of the trip isn't the most fine.

[112] Here's another option.

[113] Give your child to vent for a certain amount of time.

[114] Maybe it's when they come home from school or in the morning.

[115] Hey, here's how it works.

[116] For six and a half minutes, I always like interesting time limits.

[117] Sticks in the brain.

[118] It makes it more interesting, your kids listen better.

[119] For six and a half minutes, you may vent about whatever you want.

[120] You can complain about your teachers, about other kids in class, about the arbitrary nature of the school system.

[121] You can complain about me. You can complain about your president.

[122] You can complain about anything and everything.

[123] But when that six and a half minutes is over, then we problem solve.

[124] See, you're giving a little bit of opportunity some time to do that.

[125] But it's not endless, you have boundaries.

[126] Six and a half minutes, I'm good with that.

[127] But after that, nope, not going to listen anymore because I gave you an opportunity.

[128] Now look, use some wisdom.

[129] If your child is going through something very, very deep and difficult, right, you don't like cut them off at six and a half minutes.

[130] But I'm saying for just those venting sessions about things that aren't actually that important, by the way, they may actually be important.

[131] Actually, I'm just making a note.

[132] I just added this as I'm doing this.

[133] I'm making a little note of actually listen.

[134] You may get some insight, poking away, typing while I'm doing this, by listening and not just being aggravated all the time.

[135] Here's another option.

[136] Give your kids some intensity during these times.

[137] It works sometimes when your kids are melting down.

[138] Sometimes it can work when they're complaining.

[139] Kids love intensity and connection.

[140] See, ignoring it, makes it worse.

[141] Here's a simple statement.

[142] You know what?

[143] If I were you, I'd probably feel disappointed too.

[144] If I were you, I'd be bored as well.

[145] Now, here's, so that's validating.

[146] That's entering into it.

[147] We talk a lot about that in the No BS program.

[148] You enter into things instead of trying to dismiss it, instead of trying to fix it.

[149] You just enter into it.

[150] Right?

[151] It's one of the things to try to teach dad's husbands to do.

[152] Enter into it.

[153] You don't have to fix it.

[154] When your wife's having a bad day, just enter into it.

[155] You don't have to fix it all and you don't have to dismiss it.

[156] Now here's the second point.

[157] Just because your child is complaining or bored, whatever it is, does not obligate you to fix this for your child.

[158] I'll say it a different way.

[159] Your complaining, your boredom does not obligate me to fix this for you or to make you happy.

[160] And I have this down in bold letters.

[161] Your child has every right to complain, but you have no obligation to fix it for them.

[162] That's really cool because now we're establishing some good boundaries on what everybody is responsible for.

[163] Right?

[164] But that's, look, that obligation, that feeling of like, oh, there unhappy and they're complaining, partly why it bothers us so much is because that complaining implies some presumption that you will take action to relieve their boredom, their disappointment, their frustration, or somehow make it better.

[165] But that is not your obligation.

[166] Let me say that again.

[167] When your kids are complaining about something, when they're board.

[168] Part of what bothers us is there's some kind of hidden pressure or a presumption that you as the mom or dad are going to take some corrective action to actually relieve their boredom or their disappointment or their frustration to somehow make it better and fix it.

[169] But that is not your obligation.

[170] So here's a script that I want you to use.

[171] Again, I don't get snotty with kids.

[172] I don't lecture and get snotty.

[173] You know what?

[174] When I was a kid, who cares what you did as a kid?

[175] It just makes you sound old and your kids don't care, right?

[176] So here's a mature statement.

[177] I'm okay with you being bored.

[178] I'm perfectly fine with you being frustrated, being anxious.

[179] Don't confuse my validating your feelings with having some obligation to fix it or relieve you of those feelings, right?

[180] I'm okay with you being bored.

[181] You have every right to be bored.

[182] but just don't confuse that with an obligation on my part to fix it you can simplify it i'm good with you being bored boredom is your choice that you're making but it's not my it's not my job to actually fix that for you right i cannot own how you feel only how to model only to model how to deal with your disappointment and give you perspective, right?

[183] I can't own how you feel.

[184] If you want to feel bored, if you want to feel frustrated and anxious right now, you can do that.

[185] I'm okay with that.

[186] I can't fix it.

[187] What I can do is model in my own life how to deal with frustration and disappointment and boredom and give you perspective because I love giving perspective.

[188] See, I love being able to say, hey, here's something to think about.

[189] What I have found in life is that when I feel a certain way.

[190] Here's what usually works for me. The choice is up to you.

[191] See, now I've put it in their court.

[192] I'm refusing to take ownership of fixing that for them.

[193] That is a healthy response.

[194] You're not being mean.

[195] You're not being snotty.

[196] You're not being dismissive.

[197] You know what?

[198] You should just be grateful for every, I hate hearing that.

[199] You don't want someone to tell you that either.

[200] You're not being mean, snotty.

[201] You're not being codependent.

[202] You're not coddling your child.

[203] you're establishing proper boundaries for everybody's emotions and responsibilities.

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[209] So you'll hear this gem if you listen.

[210] I am not responsible for you.

[211] I am responsible to you.

[212] I am not responsible for you.

[213] I am not responsible for your happiness, your behavior, your moods, your boredom.

[214] I am responsible to you to model through my example how to handle disappointment, stress, and frustration, so you have a living example, a living lecture, so to speak, right in front of you.

[215] Let's practice that this week, because that will begin to change so many different situations in your life, and you can use this all the time with kids.

[216] Look, from a three -year -old who's throwing a tantrum.

[217] You can throw a tantrum.

[218] I'm just not going to fix this for you.

[219] Here's another choice if you want to make it.

[220] Teenager throwing a tantrum, so to speak, same exact tone of voice, same exact response.

[221] You have a right to feel this way.

[222] Nine -year -old, you can be bored.

[223] Just don't confuse that with an obligation on my part to fix that for you.

[224] What I have found in life is when I get bored, if I do X, that tends to help me. Choice is up to you.

[225] See, that's a beautiful thing, but that takes some maturity, takes some self -control that you're not reacting.

[226] You're not trying to dump all this stuff on your kids because you can't handle it.

[227] So let's work on that stuff.

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