#1238 - Brian Redban

[0] four three two one hey fella what's going on hey how do you like to get that quick quick fix oh my god it's so amazing how fast it came back to me like the addiction of playing that game over and over again it's a real problem yeah yeah we've been going crazy Jamie's been fucking me up too so today I got lucky that he had to help you get his shit together three early kills I saw that he's been fucking me up yeah not nice you don't really play quake right you just it's from playing all of Fortnite and stuff.

[1] I tested myself a little bit because I knew this was going to happen eventually.

[2] So I had to get some practice with some rockets at some point.

[3] And, yeah, but it honestly helps to warm up with Quake to play Fortnite or play PubG or something like that.

[4] Because the quick, whatever it is of aiming, you don't do it that much.

[5] So, like, when you're doing it three times, you've already done it 55 times playing Quake just in one round.

[6] Right.

[7] So, like, your little interaction you have with someone a shotgun, you usually win.

[8] Quake is so fast -paced.

[9] Yeah.

[10] We're playing Quake 4.

[11] It's like, oh, it's right.

[12] Jesus Christ.

[13] I haven't played that game in maybe 15 years Me too I didn't think you're ever going to do it again I probably shouldn't What I notice is my eyesight sucks now My eyesight is not nearly as good It's interesting From like 42 to 46 There was a big drop off And at 46 the fucking floor fell out Now it's like my eyesight's shit Gamer glasses It takes me a minute when I play games too One game isn't enough yet It probably takes 10 minutes Maybe less but like to just Start tracking things getting your eyes up to speed, the distance you are away from that screen, it takes a little bit of time to get in there.

[14] Yeah, man. Right now we're just playing it on the local area network.

[15] But once you start going online and playing other people, that's when it gets super, super addictive.

[16] People that still play that game must be insane.

[17] Oh, my God, I don't want to be anywhere near those psychopaths.

[18] If they're playing that game, it's because they're really good at it, probably.

[19] You know, like, who else?

[20] Young kids aren't buying that game.

[21] Back in the day, you even had a Joe Rogan level.

[22] that somebody created.

[23] Remember that?

[24] Somebody created a level, that's right.

[25] Was that what game was that?

[26] Three or four?

[27] I think it was four.

[28] Was it really?

[29] Four was 11, though.

[30] Didn't it come out in 2011?

[31] I think so, yeah.

[32] Maybe it was three then.

[33] Might have been three.

[34] Wasn't Rocket Arena?

[35] I don't know.

[36] Oh, my gosh.

[37] I don't remember.

[38] I don't remember.

[39] I know there was Rocket Arena for Quake 2 and there was Rocket Arena for Quake 3 because I started with Rocket Arena for Quake 2, which if you played today, you would think the graphics are hilariously bad.

[40] but it's a good game it's a little slower the fast game was like quake one was really fast quake two was slower and then quake three became more like quake one a combination of quake one and quake two it's pretty fast quake four is probably perfect miss it and you tried to play the new quake but you didn't you didn't like it as much is that the only problem is it's fun we had a good time the only problem is you have to do everything through their servers so it takes time it's got a load it's like it's not I'm impatient right my fucking child that's crazy yeah you refuse to try any of the other ones right they're all just new addictions you know waiting to happen I just feel like once if I got one addiction this weekend on Saturday they had a concert in Fortnite yeah marshmallow it was crazy yeah what does that mean it's tough to explain but they had it's called an event what they're calling it is like an event so at 2 o 'clock everybody showed up at the game and this fucking concert started it was like...

[41] So all the avatars are together like in a one gigantic room?

[42] The normal mode you played it just like normal and then all of a sudden like two minutes to go they took everybody's guns away and like you all just sort of congregated around the stage and the music started the show started they started doing interactive things with all the avatars and everything and like 10 minutes later it just it cut off but it turns out it was actually live he he was tweeting about it all day because for promotion and whatnot but people were asking like how'd you do that how'd you work it out his voice was going live to everyone who was playing it was probably millions of people yeah and it's just normal DJ voice stuff like hey jump guys hey was it?

[43] He was just like hey guys come on he wasn't interacting too much as much as he probably does during a normal set when he's playing at 20 ,000 people in Vegas whatever it is so when he does it he probably has like a really good microphone too like it's not like the microphone that you talk shit on right yeah yeah they had something else set up yeah yeah yeah When we first started doing Quake, no one, you had a type.

[44] Yeah.

[45] That's how goofy it was.

[46] You couldn't talk shit.

[47] Like, now people are talking, like, they're all in a group together talking shit, right?

[48] I have a voice changer now, too.

[49] But doesn't the talking shit get in the way?

[50] Like, if you hear people talking, it gets in the way of hearing sounds, like sound cues.

[51] Yes.

[52] You tell your teammates shut the fuck up.

[53] You can't.

[54] Yeah.

[55] I like to hear the footsteps coming around the corner and stuff.

[56] It makes it scary.

[57] Yeah.

[58] It's part of what's scary about Quake is like you hear someone running like, oh, And you know they're right around the corner.

[59] You can control all that.

[60] It's all up to you, volume settings and all that kind of thing.

[61] It's a very, very addictive game.

[62] So we should talk about this, the Jack podcast, because everybody got so upset about it.

[63] And let's clear up a few things.

[64] First of all, the guy seems to be willing to talk about anything.

[65] It's not that I didn't want to talk to him about those things.

[66] It's just he was being, I wouldn't say he's evasive, but he was basically just saying what he knew based on the company policy.

[67] I didn't know what else more to ask him.

[68] And people felt like I didn't press him hard enough.

[69] And he, to his credit, reached out to me and said that he would offer to do another one to ask more questions.

[70] And that's cool.

[71] And I said, that would be awesome.

[72] So I said, well, this is the thing that people seem to be upset about.

[73] They seem to be upset about very specific cases where people showed, like if people were right wing and they were posting things, they were banned, whereas people who were left -wing, or maybe people of different races, were allowed to post racist things or more offensive things and even docks people and didn't suffer any consequences for it.

[74] This is the argument.

[75] My problem is I don't spend enough time reading this stuff.

[76] I don't know.

[77] Like, this is like when people get banned, like Anthony Coombe is a friend of mine.

[78] I don't really know why he got banned.

[79] I don't know what happened.

[80] I know there was that incident with that, that, that, woman that punched him and he wound up getting fired.

[81] He was drunk and he said a bunch of really stupid shit in Twitter and then later apologize for it.

[82] But I don't know if that's what got him fired kicked off of Twitter.

[83] But he's my friend.

[84] So what I'm saying is all these other guys that have problems, I don't know what the fuck happened, man. I'm busy.

[85] I really don't.

[86] I don't know.

[87] I don't even know what got Alex Jones kicked off, which is why I asked him because that was one of the last platforms for Alex Jones was Twitter, but something got him kicked off.

[88] Their take on it was it.

[89] They never kicked him off before because he didn't violate their terms of service.

[90] And another thing that's very encouraging that Jack said, and I know it's fun to get mad at things.

[91] It's fun to get mad at him.

[92] It's fun to get mad at me for it.

[93] I get it.

[94] I'd probably do the exact same thing.

[95] I totally understand it.

[96] But one of the things that he said was that he believes that the ability to communicate on the internet through Twitter or through these platforms is a basic human right.

[97] Right.

[98] That's how he looked.

[99] I said, do you think of it like a network like NBC?

[100] Like if you're on NBC, they can decide what's on and what's not on.

[101] Or do you look at it like a utility?

[102] And he specifically said that he looked at it more like that, that he thought it was a basic right.

[103] That's very encouraging.

[104] He also said that he would bring on whoever it is in his team that's responsible for these things.

[105] So we could hear from the actual person who decides who's getting banned.

[106] and why they're getting banned and what what is what's the decision making behind all these things we can go over all of them um i didn't think the podcast would create such a controversy but that's probably poor prior planning on my part because my thought about it was hey i want to like it's fucking crazy to be running twitter like it's crazy that this thing exists that the president uses it as a platform i want to talk about the dude who created this and what is this like to have this thing evolved to become what it's become because it didn't start out that way it started out like fun shit like uh at brian red bands going to the movies you know what i mean like that's what people used it for and then along the way it became this global method of distributing information where people use it in war zones man they use it to to tell people where attacks are they use it for all kinds of crazy shit it's like it's a really powerful but strange medium i didn't think about getting into the weeds with all the very specific people that got banned.

[107] I just wanted to find out why they banned people.

[108] That was my take on it.

[109] I know there's a lot of conservative voices that have never been banned.

[110] I don't think Stephen Crowder's been banned.

[111] I don't think Sernovich has been banned.

[112] Has he been banned?

[113] There's a bunch that have not been banned.

[114] Right?

[115] So it's not like they ban all right -wing voices.

[116] So what is it?

[117] I don't know what it is.

[118] I think it's what he said, people reporting the tweet and then somebody's looking at it going well this does violate our you know policy and maybe you know all these people that that got banned violated the policy somehow you know it's probably as simple and cut clean as that you know it's it's not that simple right because they make their own policies and it's also not that simple if people are allowed to say similar things that are very racist in in vast generalizations about white people which seems to have been the case in at least a few instances where people reported that people said fucked up things about white people, but there was no repercussions.

[119] And, you know, that's where the argument becomes, these people are more oppressed.

[120] And so the white people are thought of as the oppressor.

[121] So you have this white privilege thing that people like to use now as a reason to decide to like silence someone, like check your white privilege.

[122] That's a, that's an interesting thing that's happening.

[123] So if If there's this genuine movement where people think that it's okay to say things about one race, whether you like it or not, that's racism.

[124] And if you're allowing that from any one side and not allowing it from another side, it seems hypocritical.

[125] Look, it's very distasteful.

[126] The idea of racism against black people in this country is very distasteful to everybody, almost everybody who's not a racist, right?

[127] Because of the history of this country, because of slavery, because of all these things, different connotation.

[128] But if you just allow people to say terrible things about any race, it's racism.

[129] You're allowing like a predetermined attitude about a race.

[130] Some people have done this.

[131] They have made generalizations, racist statements about white people.

[132] The really weird thing that people are thrown around these days is that you can't be racist.

[133] against white people because racism is about power and influence.

[134] It's about using your you're in the, that black people are not powerful.

[135] The white people are powerful and the white people are the ones who are oppressed.

[136] So it's impossible to be racist against them.

[137] That sounds like horseshit to me. I'm not buying that.

[138] That doesn't make any sense.

[139] It's not beneficial to anybody to generalize.

[140] This is what we got to get in our head.

[141] It doesn't matter if you're black or if you're white or if you're whatever the fuck you are.

[142] It is not beneficial to generalize to take.

[143] a person out of the group that we think of as just human.

[144] Individuals.

[145] You have to be an individual.

[146] I mean, I acknowledge the fact that people look different.

[147] They have different heredages.

[148] They have heritagees.

[149] They have different ancestry.

[150] They have different occupations.

[151] There's different parts of the world.

[152] There's all these differences.

[153] But at the end of the day, the only way we're all going to get true equality and true kinship and camaraderie as human beings is that if we recognize.

[154] recognize we're just all a human being.

[155] That's it.

[156] There are very big differences in the way we look and the things we like.

[157] That's cool.

[158] But as soon as you can say shitty things about white people or white men, that leaves everybody who doesn't fit that description guilty in this weird way, or presumed guilty, because of a racist statement.

[159] That's all it is.

[160] It's not good for anybody.

[161] I get it that it's different than racism against black.

[162] black people in America, a country that was built essentially in a lot of ways by slavery.

[163] There's a war for slavery in this country.

[164] I mean, there is a crazy reality that it's not your responsibility.

[165] It's not mine.

[166] I didn't do it.

[167] You didn't do it.

[168] But it's real.

[169] Therefore, as a person who's aware of history, the history of this country, racism against white people seems different.

[170] But it still sucks to be racist against, racist against black people, rather, seems different.

[171] but it still sucks to be racist against white people sucks to be racist against Puerto Ricans it's not good it's not good for anybody it's that's what we have to understand about this social media thing what actually did happen and what is happening why is it happening and if it's just some social justice warrior ethic that you're not debating it doesn't seem fair it seems like there should be a conversation about this and I bet they're super reasonable really intelligent people and it's possible they can come to a good place that we can all agree to.

[172] That is possible.

[173] I'm not a cynical person.

[174] I'm sorry.

[175] I know a lot of you are like, fuck them.

[176] They just want this.

[177] They just want that.

[178] Guess what?

[179] They already have it.

[180] They have more money than they could ever spend.

[181] And my dealings with Jack as a person, he seems like a very nice guy and a very smart guy and a very empathetic guy.

[182] I just think he's in a crazy, unmanageable situation.

[183] To be running something like Twitter, yeah, and there's probably people that did something that they should have done in terms of silencing people and moving things around.

[184] It's probably happened.

[185] It's a weird thing when people have influence over people.

[186] And there have been videos that have been proven where executives from a bunch of different social media corporations have talked about how to silence certain voices, how to push down certain voices.

[187] this is something that needs to be discussed like is this a policy as a whole is it you know is it because you you think you're pushing the right message like as soon as someone thinks they're pushing the right message but they don't have a there's no debate about that right they just decide our way is the right way and they're pushing this and there's a radical opposition to that message from half the country like but you like no no no but this is the one that's control the narrative.

[188] This is the one that's in control of social media.

[189] It's this far left -leaning ideology, and the other part gets pushed aside.

[190] That's a very bad situation for all of us.

[191] Because there has to be conversation.

[192] There has to be debate.

[193] Because if there's not, it just shores up the differences between two people, and they fucking hate each other even more.

[194] I did not take that into account, and I fucked up.

[195] That's my mistake.

[196] That is my mistake when I made that podcast.

[197] But I didn't take it easy on them because I didn't want to discuss those issues.

[198] I just didn't think enough of it in advance.

[199] I'm not as involved in it as other people are.

[200] I'm aware that there's censorship in social media.

[201] I'm aware.

[202] My ideas going into that conversation were more about how insane this method is for distributing information.

[203] For the people that have been banned and for the people that were fans of the people that are banned, I can understand why they'd be upset at me. It has nothing to do with any preconceived notions that I had, it's just how the conversation took place.

[204] It's all it is.

[205] And if you felt left down by that, you didn't feel like it was as extensive enough.

[206] I'm more than willing to do it and go further into it, and we're going to, and Jack offered it, and he's going to bring someone else who's going to explain things to us.

[207] I think this would be very beneficial for everybody.

[208] I also think that there should be a road to redemption.

[209] I think if you've got something that's important as Twitter or Facebook, or Instagram, if you're not stealing someone's stuff like using copyrighted music or something on an Instagram page where you get banned over and over again for doing it, but you keep doing it, if it's not something like that, if it's an ideological difference, if maybe you crossed a line that they decided was a line, you should be able to work your way back.

[210] There should be a way where you can sign up again.

[211] I mean like get a new email address?

[212] I don't mean that.

[213] I mean be the same person.

[214] You should be able to be the same person.

[215] There should be a way.

[216] Well, there should be different levels, definitely.

[217] People fuck up, man. They fuck up and they make mistakes.

[218] Right.

[219] And people also grow.

[220] I mean, there's this guy that was on Sam Harris's podcast.

[221] Christian Piccolini, I think, is his name.

[222] He was a fucking white supremacist, a full -on white supremacist.

[223] And now he is the exact opposite.

[224] He's like this very progressive guy who gives speeches on the dangers of racism and that and the ideology how it caught up with him now if he got banned when he was a young man and making terrible decisions and then became a better person shouldn't we give a guy like that a chance to get back in a platform right and without making a whole new screen name like maybe it would be and I don't think there's anything wrong with the anonymous model there's some things that are really good about it right like people, like Jack even talked about this, that people can report news stuff and not worry about fear of retribution, that they can, you know, they can whistleblow and not worry about fear of retribution.

[225] If someone's life is on the line, but they're trying to provide a service to the general public, or they're trying to give people information that maybe might even save lives, but could put them at risk, especially in like third world countries or war -torn countries, that could be a huge problem if you have to post, you know, Brian red band.

[226] If there's the only way you can get this information out, you have to use your whole name.

[227] But it probably be better off for everybody if people had a way of communicating with each other like it's just person to person.

[228] And I think the real problem is when people try to engineer these conversations, and this is another conversation about YouTube.

[229] People have said that we're deleting comments on YouTube.

[230] We're not deleting anything.

[231] thing.

[232] We haven't deleted any comments.

[233] I don't know how it works.

[234] I don't read them.

[235] I'm sure people say mean things.

[236] Have a good time.

[237] The thumbs up, thumbs down thing.

[238] Look, we don't have to have that on there.

[239] You don't have to have comments on there.

[240] YouTube gives you the option to have comments on and to have the thumbs up, thumbs down.

[241] I'm not taking those off.

[242] Have a good time with it.

[243] But we're not fucking with that.

[244] There's something that they're doing that's not, it's not, I post at 341 and Jamie posts at 342 and this is the line of the comments.

[245] It's not like that.

[246] They've got their own way of doing it.

[247] The question is, why does YouTube do it?

[248] What are they trying to do?

[249] Are they trying to block out spam?

[250] Are they trying to block out hate speech?

[251] Are they trying to engineer conversation?

[252] Are you talking about comment order?

[253] Comments on, no, comments disappear.

[254] They go.

[255] away.

[256] A lot of times it's automatic.

[257] If somebody flags a comment, it'll just take the comment away until it's like looked over upon.

[258] Only one person?

[259] Yeah.

[260] I think on YouTube that that happens quite often.

[261] Probably as little as one or two people.

[262] Yeah.

[263] So that is probably what's happening to all you folks that think your comments are getting deleted.

[264] No one's deleting shit.

[265] Yeah.

[266] Look, I'm, I'm not attached to what I do in the sense that I'm unwilling to look at what I do wrong.

[267] I try to look at everything that I do wrong, including this.

[268] So if you were upset of this podcast, because you thought somehow and another I sold out because I didn't ask him any more questions, I just asked him the questions I wanted to ask.

[269] I understand you have more questions.

[270] And I do too.

[271] I have more questions too, especially upon seeing people's reaction to it and upon making myself pay more attention to all these various stories.

[272] Matt sent us a list of them Some of them are really fucking crazy There's some crazy things people have said And not gotten in trouble for Whereas other people said things that really weren't that bad And got in trouble for it Why is that?

[273] That's a good question to ask So we'll concentrate on that We're just going to work out a date So my humblest apologies to all of you Don't not trying to let anybody down I always try to do my best That's it And also here's another clear one No one tells me what to do there's no one there's no secret person behind the scenes if i fuck up it's because of me it's my fuck up i should have prepared more i should have thought about it more but i didn't realize like how upset people would be i think you did a great i thought it was a great interview and i didn't even think of that i thought you kind of touched on it a little when you were talking about alex jones and i think that was like okay you know this is what happens well it's a very specific group of people that are upset it's right wing guys right it's a lot of american flags a lot of pepe the frogs.

[274] It's all right people, which look man, easily could have been me at many points of my life.

[275] Easily, especially being a troll online.

[276] You know, if you're working in some fucking job and you're making Pepe to Frog memes and you're fucking with people, I get it.

[277] I get it.

[278] It's one of the things I like about the internet.

[279] Like, I don't I don't want to be comfortable.

[280] I'm like, I don't want to be comfortable all the time.

[281] I want a little bit of chaos.

[282] I like the fact that just people, like, like that fucking, I was upset that that Radio Lab podcast, they took it down where they were fucking with Shia Labu, with those guys from 4chan.

[283] And the way they took it down was they contacted Radio Lab and said, those guys are white supremacists and they support white supremacy.

[284] You know, and you just, you know, you made these people that are awful, terrible people that write terrible things.

[285] You gave them props.

[286] But the thing about something like 4chan is, no, you might read some terrible things.

[287] But you got to realize you're also reading terrible things from anonymous people that are working at their jobs most of the time and they're trying to fuck with people's head and they're trying to get people upset they're they're having a good time fucking with people if you want to take them as that that's like them like giving giving a talk to a dear friend or them giving an affidavit in court well you're missing the whole thing it's entertainment like half of the whole reason why they're doing it is entertainment they didn't go steal shi al -laboos flag and go and go right to the camera go fuck shai liboo by using coordinates from photographs of the sky where they figured out where the fucking where the constellations lie and then drove around honking their horn so that they could locate where it was by using the webcam and listening to how close they got to it I mean it's fucking genius shit and it got taken down just by this accusation of them being racist but the thing about a forum like 4chan or Reddit or anything you have so many fucking people you have thousands and thousands and thousands of people if you just have 10 cunts posting jokes about black people that's all you need to ruin the reputation of thousands of people so for someone to say that everybody that was like fuck shy al -a -boo is some racist and white supremacist that's a cheap way out that's a cheap way out I bet more likely it's some dude who's bored and he's sitting in front of his fucking computer and he works all day and this is where he escapes He escapes in types and writes things, then checks them later, and then goes back to it and types thing and checks.

[288] And it keeps him sane in this stupid fucking cubicle.

[289] That's a lot of the people.

[290] So they pulled that whole amazing podcast down because of that.

[291] Look, the Shailaboo thing was ridiculous.

[292] He will not divide us.

[293] Come on.

[294] Stop.

[295] Stop.

[296] We get to chant that everywhere.

[297] It's funny what they did.

[298] They mock something.

[299] That's their way of mocking it.

[300] Nobody got hurt.

[301] They made it out like it was an awful crime they committed on this amazing person who's just trying to change the world.

[302] No, no, they pranked Shia Labu.

[303] And they said, fuck Shia Labu.

[304] Is that how you say?

[305] Shai L 'Boof?

[306] LaBuff.

[307] LeBuff, whatever it is.

[308] Shia LeBuff.

[309] I'm sure he's a nice guy, too.

[310] He probably did something silly.

[311] It's a little silly.

[312] He will not divide us.

[313] What they did was funny.

[314] It's a funny reaction.

[315] I like that.

[316] I like that.

[317] This is an important part of this thing If it wasn't for people like that There would be no podcast Now the like to dislike ratio that you see on YouTube videos is fascinating right Because it's weaponized and they're thinking about trying to ban that now Because so many people use it to fuck with people I hate to say this about you folks But every time we have a chick on here they get fucking tortured The like to dislike right It's ruthless except Rhonda Cabatrick separate on it patch right but it's just it's weaponized it's uh they're just going to dislike it because it's fun because it's fun because it's fun because it's fun it's down it's also fun to throw a rock in a window it's fun yeah i mean and some of them probably didn't even watch the podcast like thumbs down gives them a little disliking it gives a little bit of power in the algorithm of deranking it yeah well and it thinks you affected something and people who liked it there's probably a lot of them that didn't even watch it it's a button you can press people are weird you know but it's clearly it shows by the amount of dislike that people moved on it it and they were upset about it um so it's basically it we'll see there's a lot of cool interesting questions that to ask him like i always thought shadow banning was a real thing but i think he came out and said that that's not a real thing but i've i've seen it in my you know in person where i'll type somebody's name in and usually it's supposed to come up on the you know searches but it doesn't you know shadow banning is a if it is a real thing like that's another one like shadow banning for what like if it if it's not something that is if you're not doing something that you could get kicked off the platform for right you're not kicking them off you're just pushing them down some weird place but if you're doing that like why are you doing that like what because like uh but what would be the justification from the ones that i have seen there used to even be a website that you could type in somebody's user name to see if they're shadow ban so that's kind of interesting but uh like a lot of porn stars are shadow ban because they don't want if you're looking up christina Applegate.

[318] They don't want Christina Apple Bottom or something like that.

[319] You know what I mean?

[320] So it's like I still believe that's a thing, but I'm pretty sure he came out and said it wasn't a real thing.

[321] Technically shadow banning Justin Bieber from the training topics, right?

[322] I mean, they publicly said that.

[323] That's not a shadow ban.

[324] That's a strategy.

[325] Well, no, they were kind of forced into it because Justin Bieber was so his fans trend so hard.

[326] They hashtag the shit out of that thing and they just took over the trending.

[327] It's probably happening for other equally popular celebrities too like Taylor Swift's and Beyonce's Kanye yeah yeah you're probably right you're probably right so whatever they're doing at YouTube with comments and whatever they're doing with Twitter here's the real conversation right the real conversation is do we want that do we want them to curate do we want them to decide whose YouTube videos you could subscribe to and who I mean do they unsubscribe people Is that real or is that a glitch?

[328] Yeah, who knows?

[329] I don't think they unsubscribe.

[330] I don't think so either, but people have, well, let's listen.

[331] If they're willing to move Justin Bieber from the number one trending because he number one trends too hard and they think it's ridiculous, not to just acknowledge that our culture, that there's certain humans in our culture are spending an exorbitant amount of time thinking about that beautiful man, right?

[332] There's a lot.

[333] But why do we want to lie and pretend that it's not as big?

[334] I'm not saying they shouldn't, but if they did that, just if they did that, you go, okay, are we through the looking glass now?

[335] You can change the data?

[336] Like, what do you, when do you decide who gets pushed here, who gets pushed there?

[337] When do you decide?

[338] YouTube definitely, the trending page on YouTube is 100 % controlled by a human.

[339] I don't know if they've said that, but there are videos that should be there that aren't based off of the data you see.

[340] Yeah.

[341] YouTube's got some weird things going on with it.

[342] Like, there's a, the videos that they go, you might like type thing, they did a, you might like to me a couple months ago where it was just videos of a guy towing cars in Dallas, like out of their parking lot.

[343] And he made these funny, cute little videos with a little commentary using videos from the security cameras.

[344] Anyways, I don't know why I liked it, but I started watching it.

[345] And I was like, you know, this is interesting.

[346] So I tweeted it out, like, random video I just got addicted to on YouTube.

[347] everybody like hundreds of people were like I just started watching that YouTube recommended that to me like how did that happen you know this little guy with a tow truck company has now pushed on everybody's laps and now he just went over 100 ,000 subscribers the other day and it was like months ago that he just had like 10 that that's the argument some people have made that that's how fast the Paul brothers they grew and they grew so fast on YouTube that some people thought there was something up they gained like millions of followers within a week or two being on there and they were coming from another platform well it's also there's coming from another platform is giant but it's also all it really takes is one person deciding that whatever the fuck you did was funny or weird or crazy like that cash you outside girl yeah well there's that girl's you know managed by the same people that own TMZ and that's why you see it on TMZ every i was going to bring up if you watch the fire the fire festival documentary there's an explanation of they show how they spread the the fuck jerry guys the marketing team spread that with that orange picture.

[348] It was a coordinated event over hundreds of different social media accounts.

[349] For her?

[350] For the Cash Me Outside Girl?

[351] For Flat Friday Festival?

[352] Yeah, for the Fire Festival.

[353] Yeah.

[354] Fire Festival.

[355] To catch everybody's...

[356] Because there are a team of people, there are agencies that have all these influencer accounts.

[357] They pay them.

[358] They don't have to accept the money or accept the offer, accept the campaign, but oftentimes they do.

[359] So it's like a talent agency?

[360] 100%.

[361] Yeah, yeah.

[362] Interesting.

[363] They need to share a new person.

[364] You need to launch the next voice and it's like, oh, here's a new song here's a new movie it's just a new way to spread stuff bro yeah it's pretty cool watching how many people are unsubscribing to fuck Jerry and the fat Jew though that's yeah but are they I looked at the other day it was just they have like 14 million they lost 500000 in like a weekend really it's a significant amount last time I look it was 14 .7 then it was 14 .1 I haven't looked today that's coming from I think a video someone shared this week I think Vic Berger made a video that got spread around they took his video right I think that's what he said I think I saw it on Vic Berger's page There's a few comics that have posted videos like Hey you know fat juice stole this You know and I tried to reach out They never got back to me He got 10 million What do you think about this idea though Like that's kind of piracy You know like And so Instagram's allowing And Twitter's allowing piracy Well I think they're allowing These people to post videos Because you don't really know where it came from there's no proof right like if you find a meme like how many times you posted a meme i repost whoever sent it to me if someone sends it to me but sometimes i'll just find it in a google search and you've got to figure out who made that meme and if i find their instagram account then i'll try to find it and repost it but some people don't and i have it in the past like uh i did that one with uh baked alaska got mad at me because there was one with alks jones sitting in a hot tub and it's uh like when your friends are trying to chill and but you have to keep dropping truth bomb and It was hilarious I didn't know it was his I just posted it because someone sent it to me Someone sent it to me in a text message I think But those things have a creator Right and I know Pete like Eddie Bravo makes his own He makes some sometimes but he'll send some To me or post some online that he finds That are funny too and everybody tries to credit The person who did it right But now what they do is They take it and they credit the person But They didn't for so long They're crediting fake accounts, though, they'll make a fake account.

[365] They have put that in there and just do it.

[366] So they're not getting busted in the way you're just explaining.

[367] I've seen that too.

[368] Well, what is that about though?

[369] Because that seems like deception.

[370] It's just the way around that, that's backdooring that qualification of it.

[371] It needs to be on an account.

[372] We need to point to somebody.

[373] Okay, well, we'll point to this account.

[374] But it's not even a real account.

[375] Right.

[376] And if they find, like, they'll post stuff and then later add the person because the person contacts them.

[377] And so they're almost like, that's omitting to piracy.

[378] Like we did pirate.

[379] though, I mean, because if they just reposted it, a lot of folks, including me do that.

[380] Yeah, but they're making the person credit.

[381] They're making money.

[382] Other people are not.

[383] Yeah.

[384] Um, that's important.

[385] I don't make any money off my Instagram.

[386] Right.

[387] They're making millions.

[388] Yeah, I just, uh, I've been offered to post stuff up.

[389] And I'm not saying that I wouldn't if something was fucking killer and they wanted to give me money.

[390] I'm greedy.

[391] I'll take some money.

[392] But I wouldn't lie about it.

[393] And, uh, and, uh, I haven't yet.

[394] I've never accepted any money yet.

[395] Yeah, because it's awesome.

[396] I think in Instagram's law that you have to put that it's an ad if you're making money off of it.

[397] And so that's another thing that both fuck Jerry and Fat Jew are not doing.

[398] They're not putting an ad.

[399] I just wanted to devil's advocate this though, is there a place for them for those accounts?

[400] Like is there a place to be the retweater of the memes to be that guy to be that account, you know?

[401] Like isn't that valuable sort of?

[402] Yes.

[403] It is a curator position.

[404] Yeah, it's kind of valuable.

[405] But the question is like if it if it is valuable and it becomes something almost like redistributing your stand -up if you're doing a set like if stand -up sets were you know something that you just you could get everywhere and you could just repost it on your page but then your page became super popular because you have all these people stand -up sets you know like Spotify Spotify gets ads right but they don't really they pay the artists a little bit but mostly they make all the money yeah I don't know like you if it's you like say sorry later you just do it and say I'm sorry we'll figure it out after the fact, or you get it all figure it out.

[406] These are all business -oriented things that have art in them, as opposed to art -oriented things that start making money.

[407] They're two very different things.

[408] So this is not an art thing.

[409] This is they find other people's art, and they sell it.

[410] They're pushing it.

[411] They create these accounts.

[412] The accounts get giant.

[413] People pass it around because they're just finding funny things, and then they start profiting.

[414] But all the people that created all the intellectual property get zero.

[415] Hero money, which is weird.

[416] I don't remember, but I only learned more about this when except the gift shop came out.

[417] Isn't that what Andy Warhol sort of did?

[418] I don't know, and I don't care.

[419] I mean, maybe he did.

[420] Maybe he did.

[421] But the thing about it is that this is happening right now on the Internet.

[422] It's a totally different animal.

[423] I mean, Andy Warhol wasn't running around taking exact photo duplicates and putting them on his website for sale.

[424] Like, this is when someone's doing on an Instagram page is like you could, within seconds, a piece and put it somewhere else.

[425] It's seconds.

[426] Brian post something.

[427] I think it's funny.

[428] Ha, ha.

[429] I go to copy.

[430] I go to the fucking repost app.

[431] I put it in there.

[432] Repost it.

[433] It's seconds later.

[434] You could do that all day.

[435] And if you hire kids, I don't know if he has people working for them, but if these guys do, they hire people for fucking $20 an hour or whatever.

[436] And these people just do it all day long.

[437] They just find funny shit all day long.

[438] They look for certain hashtags.

[439] meme factories are what they're called yeah yeah and there's some people like you know that have made some funny ones all their own you know a lot of people that are just doing that all i know delia has done a bunch of them and then there's also one that they do where they steal people's act and make a meme out of it and then post that on their page that's where it gets even more slippery because you're talking about like stand -ups acts and you're making money off it how much are they making off each post i mean i don't know but these are multi -million dollar businesses.

[440] And the punchline.

[441] So now you have this 10 minute joke that everyone knows the punchline because they saw it on Facebook.

[442] That's like spoiler alert.

[443] Come on.

[444] For sure, if you're still doing that material.

[445] If it wasn't on Netflix or a Comedy Central special or something, for sure.

[446] That sucks.

[447] I guess it's always happened though, hasn't it?

[448] TV shows have been accused of stealing.

[449] Oh, they have stolen.

[450] It's happened on...

[451] Dude, they did it to Kevin James.

[452] I saw it happen.

[453] Kevin James was at the...

[454] He had a development deal for NBC back in the Dizzy, back when we were young pups.

[455] Both of us were like 27 or some shit.

[456] Maybe he's a little old than that.

[457] Maybe he's actually that was like during the news radio day.

[458] So we were probably like in our 30s.

[459] And he had this development deal.

[460] Nice development deal.

[461] They're paying them a lot of cash, a lot of paper.

[462] And they were setting up a sitcom around him.

[463] So they had him do a set at a theater in Hollywood.

[464] And I was there and he does this set and is all these writers from various sitcoms and the very next season one of his best jokes is on an episode of a television show that's very popular very popular yeah yeah yeah yeah and uh they fucking stole his bit man i guess that's where i was going because that was in the 90s so like we're now 20 25 years later the new popular medium is instagram and social media yeah how different is that well it's different because there's accountability now because now people know that if you wrote a meme and you put it up on your site and then fuck jerry comes along and steals your shit and doesn't credit you for it and just puts it up there you know what they did unless someone sent it to them and didn't attribute it to you which is possible but it seems much more um likely that what they're doing they were doing on purpose for the longest time and they just did they thought that's what you could do on the internet it's a wild west you could just take memes and you could become famous And look, that fat Jewish guy did it.

[465] I mean, that guy became famous.

[466] Whether you agree with his methods or not, it worked.

[467] He's got his crazy hair.

[468] He shows you, you know, like he's this crazy -looking guy, and he has all these funny memes that somebody else wrote.

[469] And they're all up on his Instagram page, and it worked.

[470] And people don't like him now.

[471] There's a lot of people that don't like him.

[472] People get real shitty with him in person.

[473] They don't want him doing appearances.

[474] They know what he did.

[475] So there's a certain number of people that go, hey man you're a thief like this is not cool like what you did is not cool but then there's certain people that don't care and then there's certain people to think well what he did was just what anybody did back then it was the wild west no one thought about it and once he established that business model and it was effective it was probably very hard for him to slow it down or to attribute things to people or to admit that he didn't do it for all that amount of time it just bugs me that companies pay these guys knowing that they do this or like as a fat jew he's like he's like signed with c a who's signed with a bunch of comedians that he probably took you know they're taken from the same basket so it's like it is weird right yeah now if he was going on stage and doing their acts he's been doing appearances right he's got a book he's been on tv shows well i don't know what's in i don't know what he's doing but maybe he's showing him in that but he's look he's obviously used it for profit he's figured out a way to profit it's weird he must be weirded out by this fuck jerry thing too Because you must be sitting there going, okay, I'm right here.

[476] You guys going to leave me alone?

[477] It's, you know, Comedy Central was advertising on the fuck Jerry page, which is like, Jesus, folks.

[478] I didn't know that.

[479] It was like, Jesus, folks.

[480] Can I just sit you guys down?

[481] Go over a little history of comedy?

[482] Well, I mean, mine didn't see it.

[483] They didn't learn then either, you know.

[484] Well, that was while it was happening, though.

[485] they did learn eventually they'd let it go eventually but that was also because the ratings it dropped through the floor you know comedy's not fucking easy to make up you know especially like meme kind of comedy that's done by folks that are working in offices meme kind of comedy is some of the funniest fucking comedy on earth and it's done by regular people it's not like a it's not like most memes are written by high level satirists that work for for the New Yorker.

[486] No, they're fucking regular folks who think something's funny, you know?

[487] I think what's going to happen is as technology improves the, like, being able to scan a photo and go, well, we could tell the first time this was ever put on the internet was from this little girl, she took a photo of it, has all the data in the picture, and it's now used on this meme that's making this much of money and this meme, that's going to be kind of broken down like any kind of artist.

[488] Yeah, I guess.

[489] I mean...

[490] That's the idea for the bar, the argument, of the blockchain getting involved in here because you can tie that you can I guess it can be in the data in the bits like now let me ask you this what if someone uses a picture of your band say you have a band they use a picture of your band then they have a funny meme under the picture of your band who owns that then that's what happened like yeah I think Beyonce tried to get that picture taken off the internet from her from the Super Bowl a couple years ago because it was like a bad picture she didn't like how she looked in it that's hilarious yeah how the fuck does that lady take a bad picture and she doesn't Somebody needs to talk to her.

[491] And go, listen, it's good.

[492] It's not your best, but you look fucking great.

[493] Like, if that shit was on Tinder, you know, you wouldn't be going, eh.

[494] It's like, should they, who, if someone was paying for that meme, should Beyonce get some of the money?

[495] That's, that's the question you would have with, like, a corporation, right?

[496] Which should someone be able to grab photos that are out in the public domain, make something with it, and then profiting?

[497] That's the way, that's, there's been a lot of bands, I'm sure.

[498] That's why I said bands, because they're, like, really good at protecting.

[499] copyright and their logo and shit if you had like the kiss band logo you don't think jean simmons would come at you he's coming at you with some lawyers 100 % right that's just what he's gonna do but it's who owns those photos if it's like jean simmons like spit and fire out and i think if you took the photo and the cameras were allowed inside the event you took it that's right but it's not what the case is though most of the photographs are people that are putting they're just putting them up online and someone takes it like say if you jean simmons spit and fire and then it has a joke about eating a hooker's pussy or something.

[500] Like, whatever it is.

[501] Like, make something funny there.

[502] Like, if that's online and that becomes this giant meme that gets all these likes and that's somehow another, someone, how the fuck do you profit from, from Instagram?

[503] You don't profit from individual posts, but those individual posts will boost your signal.

[504] Yeah.

[505] Some posts are profited.

[506] Instagram?

[507] Yeah, you have to say add on it.

[508] Right, you have to say sponsored post, right?

[509] yeah well legally it's supposed to but i'd probably say 90 % of them aren't right a lot of people don't right especially if it's like instagram models you can get away with it oh yeah instagram model talking about tea like oh this is their best tea yeah yeah it's a hope that the instagram model is a fucking hilarious position it really is it's a powerful position yeah it's hilarious though it's it's amazing how many of them there are and they make money you know it's smart it's amazing how Butts are such a big thing now.

[510] Yeah.

[511] And, like, when I was kid, no one cared about butts.

[512] It was big butt.

[513] You're like, ooh, lose some weight.

[514] Yeah, we talked about this before, I think.

[515] Yeah.

[516] I think you and I did.

[517] Oh, probably.

[518] It was where I said, Sir Mixelot changed the game.

[519] Everybody's like, what?

[520] Oh, you like big butts?

[521] Hey, I kind of do, too.

[522] It's like, for whatever reason, it wasn't even an issue.

[523] Like, back then, girls would have giant fake boobs and tiny flat butts, and they were perfect.

[524] My grandmother would have millions of Instagram mom.

[525] Model hits.

[526] Fat Bottom Girls was before that slightly, but no one really, it didn't catch on, right?

[527] You make the rock and the world go around.

[528] That's a great goddamn song.

[529] I didn't see Bohemian Rhapsody.

[530] Did you?

[531] Did you see it?

[532] I heard it wasn't that good.

[533] What the fuck are you guys talking about?

[534] I heard it was amazing.

[535] Did you?

[536] Yeah, I did.

[537] I'm a giant queen fan, though.

[538] I love them.

[539] That's my number one cryogenic song.

[540] When I'm in the cryo chamber is Dragon Attack.

[541] Because you got to move around when you're in that 240 degrees below zero.

[542] It's hard to just sit still.

[543] Do a little dancing in there.

[544] I'd read it.

[545] He did a Ramey Malick, I think, is the actor's name that played him, Freddie Mercury.

[546] He did a really good job.

[547] But before it happened, Sasha Baron Cohen was sort of in talks for it.

[548] But he wanted to take the character in a different direction that no one was really comfortable with.

[549] I see, I would have rather have seen that.

[550] No, man. What would he have done?

[551] What was that?

[552] What does that mean?

[553] I don't know.

[554] See, that's a weird thing, man. You can't.

[555] It could have just been said, too, that to get spicy talk.

[556] But you can't just add stuff.

[557] My wife.

[558] Yeah, you can't just...

[559] It's not an art piece.

[560] Like, Bohemian Rhapsody, although it is an art piece, it's a documentary of a guy's life.

[561] Like, in some ways, you're documenting it, right?

[562] Like, it's supposed to be his life.

[563] You can't make up things that never really happened or...

[564] I forget what movie, but it's like a difference between like a biopic and an actual biography or a documentary.

[565] Like, it's...

[566] Well, what is the difference?

[567] You're making a Hollywood movie versus...

[568] Right.

[569] But what is the difference?

[570] in terms of the story.

[571] Creative, I think creative control, like being creative with something.

[572] Like, we know this event happened and this event happened a day before and in the middle, what would happen where one is knowing only the facts.

[573] The Fox Catcher versus a documentary about Mark Schultz.

[574] Like there were parts in there that you specifically know are fucked with for no artistic sake.

[575] Well, not just the parts that I know, but I didn't even talk to Mark about the movie, but there was a bunch of parts that I think he was furious about where it made it look like they were doing blow and maybe doing some gay stuff.

[576] It looked, it was a, it was, there was a lot of weird scenes that things were implied or just seemed odd.

[577] Like, how do you know this happened unless Mark told you?

[578] And so, and Mark was furious at the end after it was released.

[579] And then on top of that, like the big one was that they changed his opponent when he fought in the UFC.

[580] They gave him a Russian guy when he, in fact, fought Big Daddy Goodrich, who's a legend.

[581] Like Big Daddy Goodrich is an MMA legend.

[582] He was a pioneer.

[583] He was in the early UFC's, the giant yoked black dude with the ghee.

[584] I mean, he would fight with the ghee on.

[585] He has one of the most brutal knockouts in the history of the sport where he fought this wrestler, Paul Herrera, and Paul took him down, and they got into a position where Big Daddy Goodrich was lying on him sideways, and he elbowed him in the face like 10 times in the course of, like, three seconds.

[586] And it's so horrific.

[587] Like, you're watching his head just bounce off before they stop the fight.

[588] It's fucking brutal, like one of the most brutal chaos you'll ever see in your life.

[589] So this guy wasn't just a regular guy.

[590] Like, you just substitute him out and make the guy's name Tom instead of Bob.

[591] No, it was Big Daddy Goodrich.

[592] That's who Mark Schultz fought when he fought in the UFC.

[593] Watch this.

[594] Watch this.

[595] Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[596] I mean, that guy is fucking cow accident.

[597] Out, out.

[598] And his arms are trapped, and his legs are trapped.

[599] Big Daddy's got him in like a crucifix position.

[600] And it's from Paul trying to take him down.

[601] I mean, that was, so that guy, Big Daddy Goodrich, he's a famous fighter.

[602] It's not like they took some nobody and removed him from the movie and changed the name of someone where it didn't really matter.

[603] It was a historical event in MMA.

[604] That's the reason you think.

[605] No one knows.

[606] Some crazy producer, I think he should fight a Russian guy because this is, we're in the Cold War again, baby.

[607] I don't know, you fuck Putin.

[608] I don't know how you feel about politics.

[609] You know, some producer just wanted to jizz on the soup.

[610] Some writer just wanted a cup of his own balls and squirt one off into the fucking stew.

[611] That's probably what happened.

[612] Yeah, I don't know.

[613] The screenplay to make it to watch better, who knows?

[614] The only other thing that makes sense is maybe they would have had to pay Daddy Goodrich.

[615] Right.

[616] And they didn't want to pay him?

[617] Maybe.

[618] I don't know.

[619] That makes sense.

[620] That makes sense.

[621] I mean, like Mike Tyson, you know, he had that video game a long time ago with Nintendo, and they had to pay him to use Mike Tyson's punchout.

[622] Yeah.

[623] And then after like a couple years, he was like, I'm done with this.

[624] And so now it was just called Punch Out.

[625] It wasn't even Mike Tyson in the game anymore.

[626] They'd, like, take it off.

[627] Some new dude.

[628] Yeah.

[629] Yeah.

[630] Have you done the VR boxing game yet?

[631] I haven't done the VR boxing game, but it looks cool.

[632] Like the Rocky one?

[633] Is that what it is?

[634] There's a whole bunch of them.

[635] Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them.

[636] Dude, they're amazing.

[637] Yeah.

[638] It's great.

[639] Like a regular boxing game you're playing on TV is so stupid.

[640] I mean, they're fun.

[641] But in comparison to a VR game, in a VR game, you're boxing.

[642] Right.

[643] You see your hands in front of you.

[644] The guy's throwing jabs.

[645] You're slipping.

[646] You're like standing in front of them.

[647] You can catch punches with your hands.

[648] You can throw shots to the body.

[649] It's crazy.

[650] You get tired doing it.

[651] Like, you could really get a workout doing it.

[652] It's amazing.

[653] This is it right here.

[654] This is what you would see.

[655] It's almost the new Rocky one.

[656] They just updated.

[657] Oh, Jesus.

[658] Oh, Club of Lang!

[659] Mr. T. is in it, or is it just random guy with Mohawk?

[660] Well, that's clever Lang.

[661] But look, look how jacked everybody is.

[662] Imagine if people were really that jacked.

[663] I mean, this is, so what is that, Drago?

[664] And he's fighting, there's Drago versus Rocky.

[665] Yeah, but we can't see, you want to see what it looks like from your eyes.

[666] And this is a that's a regular video game, or that is a virtual reality?

[667] That's the VR game.

[668] This is just the teaser they showed, I guess.

[669] I was looking for the updated Yeah, you want to see what it looks like.

[670] when you've got those gloves in front of you.

[671] Have you tried VR pool yet?

[672] No. I like regular pool.

[673] VR is so great.

[674] I love it.

[675] I just need to get it out of my living room.

[676] It's just too much for my living room.

[677] There's things you couldn't do with VR pool that you need to understand if you're actually playing pool.

[678] With real pool, you need friction.

[679] Wow, this looks great.

[680] It's crazy.

[681] Look how good it looks.

[682] A little bit of haptic feedback for this to get maybe the next step.

[683] Look how he's using his hands to block too It's crazy The thing is man When when someone's swinging on you When this fake person in front of you's frame it's nerve wracking You think you're gonna get hit And when you do get hit And you see red or you see white rather Look you just caoed him It's funny watching the guy It's pretty amazing how VR really gets immersive Like were you like the what is it?

[684] Resident Evil video game I mean that's scary as fuck You really think zombies are coming after you Yeah you really do you know that game the thing about that game though it doesn't necessarily this boxing thing does not necessarily reward perfect technique it just you could kind of just do this and just do that so you'd have to like be if you wanted to use it as a workout you'd have to actually be disciplined and use good technique what you'd probably do is put gloves on put some velcro gloves on and put the the little fucking hand thing in the glove probably close to there better than the next year or two you could just duct tape it year or two it'd be in the glove yeah there's actually a i think it's called the knuckle controller is the next version of the vive controller it fits around your hand like a glove it's not it doesn't it just goes around your knuckles kind of so you don't have to grab sort of in the same way right yeah because um when you have your hands this way like uh with thumbs up thumbs up shows up shows the the gloves like this on the screen for some strange reason so when you're throwing punches it doesn't look right they need to change that but other because they it's like they they won't you to just do this.

[685] But that's freaking me out.

[686] Yeah.

[687] But when you're actually doing it, though, if it looked like your hands in the same position as your hands, it would be a worthwhile way to learn.

[688] Like a guy like Freddie Roach could literally do a game where he showed you, all right, I want to see the jab.

[689] And they're like right here, right here, right.

[690] And then here comes the hook, duck under, and then go to the body, go to the head.

[691] And you could do that and do drills with the guy.

[692] And actually, you could pick up real skills in a VR game, especially with boxing.

[693] boxing particularly kickboxing maybe a little less because you're moving your legs you're not just moving your hands like you'd have to have some sort of sensors on your legs so I could know what you're doing to make sure you're not showing bad technique like your knee might be down or you might be doing something funky but if you have boxing those two things are just like gloves all you need to learn is all the other things you need to learn how to punch and how to move around but you can effectively with just holding on to those things you're staying in the same position that you would be if you were really boxing and you can move around the ring too like it's an area like the size of this desk maybe like a little bit more so it's not like you're in one place and you don't have footwork you can actually develop footwork too so they could have like Vasili Lomachenko doing like footwill drills footwork drills rather where you would learn on a virtual reality thing where to step that'd be fucking badass all that stuff you could learn some shit from those things I like how the VR is going like there's amusement park or uh buildings now kind of like chucky cheese where it's just vr rides now where you're like oh you're parachuting or you're on a roller coaster and stuff i like how they're doing that now a lot like a lot of malls have that now yeah yeah i've done those i've done the like little spaceship ones too when you roll a doom buggy around on the surface of the moon have you done the star wars one in Vegas yet i guess you actually have like five people in your group that you can see in the game and there's like uh you know have you played they have at the glendale gallery if you want to go check it out yeah dude the dopest one they have is at the Disneyland the Disneyland Village but the Disneyland Village one is there's a Star Wars one and then there's also a Reckett Ralph one the record Ralph one is fucking amazing is the same company is the same company yeah that's it same place so they have the Star Wars one sometimes so they'll have like one game set up for like a couple of weeks and then they'll have the other game dude we went to Disneyland and that was the dopest thing at Disneyland really yeah Yes, by far.

[694] It's fucking amazing.

[695] Dude, you wear this suit, okay?

[696] So you have this vest on.

[697] So you're feeling when you get hit, you feel it in your chest, you feel heat.

[698] They have places where you walk through and it's like lava below you, you feel heat.

[699] The Star Wars one, when you're getting shot, you feel it in your chest.

[700] No shit.

[701] You pick a gun up off the wall and you've got like stormtrooper arms.

[702] You see you're holding the gun in front of you.

[703] It's crazy.

[704] That's awesome.

[705] I didn't know that it was in Glendale.

[706] Dude, they're getting so good.

[707] You still are super aware that you're in a game For now But this, you know, go from Pong To fucking What's the best Red Dead Redemption?

[708] That's probably the best graphics I mean fucking insane graphics That's, what is that?

[709] 30 years?

[710] 30 years they went to that These virtual reality games Ten years from now are going to be insane No one's going to want to be in regular life Regular life's going to suck Yeah, there's not going to be a Disneyland or Disney World anymore it's just going to be VR.

[711] It'll still be there, but you'll be able to get on every ride.

[712] Yeah.

[713] I haven't watched this myself yet, but the NBA makes viewing and VR available now.

[714] Whoa.

[715] The whole game?

[716] It's not every game, but it's like once a week.

[717] They have a particular game.

[718] You can log in and watch.

[719] They change the cameras a little bit.

[720] I don't think it's perfect yet.

[721] Holy shit.

[722] It's very cool, though.

[723] Dude, how about watching this on the floor?

[724] Yeah.

[725] You're on the floor.

[726] And they'll move you around so you can see.

[727] in the footage too, and I think they have a separate announcing team, so they're talking about what you're seeing versus like listening to the normal TV.

[728] Oh, wow.

[729] It's quite not there yet.

[730] We filmed a couple episodes of Kill Tony in VR, and we had some of the top of the line cameras for it, and it still wasn't there yet.

[731] It was more hassle than it was worth.

[732] This seems like something that would be fucking amazing for the UFC, though.

[733] Oh, yeah.

[734] I mean, this would be amazing.

[735] Yeah, you'd basically have your view.

[736] Yeah.

[737] Except the cage.

[738] The cage would be in the way, but there's to be a way that they could film through the cage.

[739] If they just had a camera in a reinforced position where it was far enough back behind foam that there's no way it could interfere if someone crashed into it, but yet close enough that it could see through an actual hole, you could get the entire octagon if you did it with several different ones of those.

[740] They had or they had it at least that like it was ground, this isn't it, I guess, but it was a ground level i think they called it the phantom camp but maybe it had a different name and it was it was vr it wasn't vr no the ufc's used it a few times they always try out things they're they're very experimental they don't always show everything they're trying out though but the problem with it would be cool to try it maybe one time ideally you'd want it right in the middle like not above or too below and it would have to have because it has cameras all around it so you know that that's hard to do with the cameras i guess without getting in the way of everything.

[741] Yeah, you would have to find a good spot for it.

[742] Put it on Bruce Buffer's head and let him just go to town.

[743] Well, they used to do that with Pride.

[744] Pride used to have, like, they would wear glasses with, like, cameras next to the glasses, and you'd get the referee vision.

[745] Yeah.

[746] It was crazy.

[747] That's kind of cool.

[748] Separating fighters and breaking it up and waving the fight off, yeah.

[749] That's kind of cool.

[750] Yeah, it's pretty badass.

[751] Here it is.

[752] I guess it's, I guess it's, the.

[753] this little teeny marshal cam is what it's called pov cam that shit's pointed at me man sometimes yeah there's one like that that's pointed at me oh yeah i guess sure i have seen that there yeah that's they use that sometimes when uh you know when we go crazy when we jump up with a fight's happening i didn't know it was even i didn't know that's what they did it for until one day i saw it online i go oh that makes sense that's a smart thing to do because sometimes we do get animated there's been several fights where me annick and and and DC or Dominic Cruz, we're all standing up.

[754] Like, while, like, Amanda Nunes, when Amanda Nunes knocked out Chris Iborg, we just, we were like, what the fuck?

[755] Like, your whole body's like, Jesus, what the fuck did I just see?

[756] Sometimes you just can't sit down.

[757] Your body's just like, God damn it!

[758] It just goes.

[759] You don't, you're not even trying to control it.

[760] You just let it go.

[761] When you see somebody do something fucking insane, Like there's some wild crazy Francis Ingano Knocking out Alistair Overeem type punch Yeah Are we Yeah it's me and Dominic and John Anniks up And I'm leaning back It's a crazy job man It's a crazy job So that was the moment And you see the one below it See that Go back to that See that one below it Where I'm staring at the camera In the upper right No that one there That was a video taken by John Wayne Parr John Wayne Parr who's a multiple time world Muay Thai champion, a friend of mine, a great guy who lives in Australia was there at the fights in Australia when Holly Holm knocked out Ronda Rousey and he filmed Holly Holm, head kicking Ronda Rousey and then turns to me and I turned to him and I was like what the fuck just happened?

[762] I was like, whoa, whoa.

[763] but when you see it like in that moment when you see when you see something that's that fucking nuts in that moment you're like i can't even believe what i saw like that was me like i looked at him and he looked at me and we're like whoa dude that was crazy there's no sport like that some sports just you know they just have this uh this moment where everybody gets a jolt of a drug you know everybody just gets this you mean that didn't happen last night at the Super Bowl for you I left before it ended I was at a friend's party went to a Super Bowl party it was fun the lowest feud one in the last 10 years are you serious but not by a lot but yeah it's because they knew that that handsome man was going to take a shirt off what's his name Adam Levine this beautiful man's no nipples or everyone's talking about his nipples no he has nice brown nipples but then you're like Janet Jackson like the big you know that way that's true crazy why is he allowed to show his nipples he showed both this is bullshit sex is bullshit and his dick root this is oh my god he had dick root showing that is bullshit he just wanted everybody to know he's got beautiful tattoos and a fairly good body yeah doesn't look where he does a lot of squats though right that's what's interesting he's around like the greatest super athletes in the known universe actually looks pretty good right there for today he was yeah he looks pretty good that's random tattoos I mean, he's not always around the greatest super athletes.

[764] Right.

[765] No, no. Yeah, yeah.

[766] Yeah, he looks pretty good.

[767] He looks like he's in good shape.

[768] Happy to take his shirt off with his California stomach tattoo.

[769] But the point being, that guy's around freaks!

[770] He's around 6 '5 -290 -pound super athletes who could jump over his fucking head.

[771] They literally could run through a hundred of him, like they were paper walls.

[772] Just rah!

[773] That's what he's around.

[774] He's around the fucking Super Bowl, the greatest physical specimens in the known universe.

[775] And he takes his shirt off.

[776] Like, hey, bitches, I'm here too.

[777] They had an event set up over the weekend so people could test their 40 speed up against other NFL times, whatever they had like a list.

[778] Oh, that's hilarious.

[779] Hussein Bolt did it in his shoes.

[780] They said street shoes or whatever, but he didn't have cleats on.

[781] He tied the fastest ever NFL 40.

[782] Yeah, he probably did it with a full stomach.

[783] He probably just ate, drank a couple of beers Fuck it I'll show these bitches what's up Yeah it's just It was weird Like watching on TV This dude with a shirt off You know like Oh this is a different thing now Now this is like a sexy concert Before it was like a football game That's what I think he's getting shit for Because he didn't need to take a shirt off right You know he had his shirt on And then like after the second song He's like you know what Let's get sexy in the Super Bowl Did he say that?

[784] No no but I mean Why else would he take off his shirt I mean Ashley should make a hashtag Hashtag sexy in the Super Bowl Let's get sexy up in this bitch Well he's a sexy man Can't don't be hating Beautiful man Yeah I mean But that's the whole thing Your audience is a bunch of guys You know Started with a jacket on Started with jacket on Well it was cold out at first But then he started to warm up a sweat Yeah Never trust white men with necklaces That's my message More than one No he's got the little necklaces and the brace That's for the falcons to land on.

[785] Oh, wait a minute.

[786] Those are spiritual necklaces.

[787] If you have wooden beads, for whatever reason, that makes you spiritual.

[788] Is it hemp or gold?

[789] I can't even tell.

[790] You're allowed to wear wooden necklaces because, like, people go, oh, you're like really into organic stuff.

[791] You're really into macro.

[792] But that's gold.

[793] Is that?

[794] Yeah, that is gold.

[795] Yeah.

[796] That's like, the other one is just weird lighting.

[797] I can't wear necklaces, man. It bugs me. Did you ever wear necklaces?

[798] I've worn necklaces, sure.

[799] Yeah.

[800] It's never been a staple.

[801] but it's a, it's a weird thing.

[802] First of all, if it's, if it's big enough, it's like this target, right?

[803] If you have like a big old gold necklace necklace, people want to steal it.

[804] Right.

[805] There's a lot of necklace snatchers out there, Brian.

[806] I don't know if you know that.

[807] Yeah.

[808] But then the other thing is, like, what are you doing?

[809] What are you doing with that big old shiny thing around your neck?

[810] What are you a chick?

[811] I remember in the 90s, chokers wear a thing, and I used to wear a choker.

[812] How gross is that?

[813] Like a dog choker?

[814] Just a really tight necklace.

[815] Yeah hemp necklaces Oh yeah Those with the little bead Yeah The bead at the bottom The bead's critical Gotta have the bead Yeah Multi -colored bead Make it look Are you cool Yeah like it's weird Like with like Some guys will wear like Little anklets With like beads And they tie them off And they'll walk around barefoot And you're like Okay Hmm Well it's kind of like that look That you know The shop look Where you have like The really tight Like your pants To go up So you can see your socks You know, you show a little leg.

[816] You know why they do that?

[817] Why?

[818] Sneakers.

[819] Those guys are all those sneakers.

[820] Yep.

[821] Full sneak.

[822] That's what Shob told me. Do you do that, Jamie?

[823] Yeah, that's what my pants have that actually for you.

[824] Oh my God, you do.

[825] Why?

[826] That's how the pants are made.

[827] That's how the pants are made.

[828] That's why you don't buy those pants, man. Then you're not buying pants in the last four years.

[829] What lady store do you buy?

[830] Do you buy it at coach?

[831] Do you buy those pants?

[832] Nike.

[833] Oh, gosh.

[834] That's hilarious.

[835] You don't do that, do you?

[836] No, how dare you?

[837] How dare you?

[838] I have a pair of very comfortable underarm or running shoes on.

[839] How are those?

[840] Your new shoes the other day?

[841] They're a little too tight for me. Okay.

[842] They bind my feet a tad bit.

[843] When I got to the store, I had to swap them out for a...

[844] I had a pair of Converse All -Stars, which is my go -to.

[845] You got Yeezys, right?

[846] Jamie gave me a pair of Yeezys about a year ago.

[847] And he just wore them.

[848] He just undeadsocked them.

[849] You just keeping them on ice for a while.

[850] Undeadsocked them.

[851] Is that what's called?

[852] Deadstock.

[853] Dead stock.

[854] Dead stock.

[855] Oh, do you know what a dead -old?

[856] naming is.

[857] Do you know what dead naming is?

[858] Is that a shoe thing?

[859] No. No. It's a new thing that's illegal on Twitter.

[860] This is something I wish I knew.

[861] I didn't know until after the podcast, but dead naming is, uh, it's banned.

[862] So say if you decide tomorrow to become a woman and you're like, I'm not no longer Brian.

[863] I'm Brianina.

[864] I'd be like, Brianna.

[865] That's what you're, if you thought this through?

[866] Of course.

[867] Okay.

[868] So I'd be like, uh, okay, Brianna, but you're still a man. And then boom, that's dead naming.

[869] You can't call someone something other than their preferred gender.

[870] So like if they identify as a woman, but they're biologically male, you're not allowed to say they're biologically male.

[871] Wow.

[872] You're not allowed to call them a man because that's dead naming.

[873] You're not allowed to call them like, you couldn't call Caitlin Jenner Bruce.

[874] If you called her Bruce, you would be dead naming her but that's just like that's not illegal or i mean like you're from twitter oh it's a twitter rule it is a new please pull that up okay i did not know this i did not know this i searched it it it's been around for a while but i'm checking the twitter that's kind of weird dead naming has been banned for a while or the term has been around i just found out about the term maybe a couple weeks ago i'd heard the term for the first time somebody wrote dead naming and i was like what what is that and then i had a look at that It's so ridiculous.

[875] All the new rules we have to deal with.

[876] Dude, there's a fucking article.

[877] There's an article that I was reading.

[878] Go ahead.

[879] I'm looking right out there in terms of service.

[880] It's directly word for word in there.

[881] Okay, where's to say that?

[882] Okay.

[883] Dead naming of transgender individuals.

[884] Repeated or non -consensual slurs, epithets, racist, and sexist tropes, or other content that degrade someone.

[885] Okay.

[886] Well, hold on a second.

[887] like what does degrade someone so if you if you contact me and say hey bro you're fucking short you're not funny that's degrading yeah like is that not allowed that's crazy you have to you have to have that be allowed we're hitting individuals with repeated slurs tropes or other content that it tends to dehumanize degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category see that's where it comes from like white people or not protected.

[888] This includes targeted misgendering or dead naming of transgender individuals.

[889] I love how they just went with that.

[890] This is a giant corporation and they just went with some new word.

[891] It's only been around for like a month.

[892] How long has dead naming been around for?

[893] The Urban Dictionary had it in there from 2014.

[894] Really?

[895] I've never even heard that before.

[896] They're on the ball.

[897] Tell you that.

[898] Those urbans, they stay ahead.

[899] Twitter still allows goat seas and all the porn want.

[900] I love that.

[901] Yeah, well, porn's consensual.

[902] I love that.

[903] It's just hilarious.

[904] I love that that's all.

[905] I love the chaos of it all.

[906] I love the fact that they're trying to sort everything out.

[907] I just think it's the whole thing is crazy.

[908] It's so bizarre that they're trying to, in that sense with that.

[909] Like, that's so vague to dehumanize or degrade.

[910] Well, every joke about someone.

[911] joke about Trump, every single joke about Trump that every single comedian and or commentator and or person makes is in some way degrading.

[912] When you talk about how fucking stupid he is, like Rob Reiner had a joke about him, called him a piece of shit or called him a piece of crap yesterday and said he couldn't believe how fucking dummy is.

[913] Trump talking about Hillary though.

[914] He's doing it to Hillary.

[915] 100%.

[916] 100%.

[917] So that's so vague.

[918] That's so vague.

[919] And dead naming's not a real word.

[920] So, like, how are they using fake words in this shit?

[921] I can't think they're trying to say it is now.

[922] It is a real, real word.

[923] Yeah, man, I don't know.

[924] If your name used to be Bruce and you changed it to Caitlin, I can't say that, that seems bananas.

[925] That seems bananas.

[926] So, like, if you were fucking with somebody, say somebody became a woman and is still an asshole.

[927] I you can't call him Mike you know hey Mike look I'm sure you're bitter about this whole changing your sex thing you can't bring that up but uh you're still an annoying guy you just don't have your dick anymore bye like if someone says that they can't say that why can't they say that they should that's to me stupid well well I'm not saying but that's hurtful I guess to transgender people I sure and that's can can be considered hate right speech or hate whatever but only but only when it comes to like gender right like if you could you could tell someone hey you're short and fat and stupid and they don't no one cares true right you could say you uh you're ugly as fuck your nose is disgusting what happens there is that the same what is that the same thing it might be if you do it repeatedly right if you just do it once you just throw one out there, probably okay.

[928] Probably one time you could shit on someone's looks.

[929] You get one.

[930] But it's like what, like deciding what you can and shit on someone for.

[931] Like, what I'm saying is someone's an asshole and they're, like, here's a perfect one.

[932] That woman who used to be a man, she's a transgender woman who is in a store screaming at this kid behind the counter that it's ma 'am.

[933] It's ma 'am.

[934] This is the perfect example of that.

[935] The guy was terrified.

[936] She's fucking huge.

[937] And she used to be a guy and clearly still looks like a guy.

[938] and she's saying it's fucking ma 'am like you remember she knocked some shit over and she got violent in the store yeah in that situation you're telling me that it's not cool to say how about you settle the fuck down because you look like a guy you're acting like a violent guy and you used to be a guy pardon me if i think you're still a fucking guy that's dead naming but that's a good thing to say in that particular instance so without nuance right without context.

[939] It's saying you can't say anything to degrade someone.

[940] Well, clearly that would degrade that guy.

[941] But if that guy was saying fuck that kid, he did it on purpose, on Twitter, you're saying someone can't respond.

[942] Hey man, I'm sure you're really upset that you got your dick removed and you still look like a guy.

[943] But fuck you.

[944] Like, why can't someone say that?

[945] Because that's people communicating how they feel about you being a dick.

[946] Like if you start out being a dick and then they communicate about you being a dick by being a dick as well, are we banning this?

[947] They're probably just covering their butts It's probably not You know what kind of like Jamie said It's dangerous In a lot of ways It's dangerous to control people's thoughts And behavior Because who are you to say And when does it end You know It just keeps going and going And going and going It gets very slippery When you have one group That thinks it's right And they're trying to control another group that thinks they're right Man That is It seems so simple When you're just talking about Dead naming transgender people or not degrading people based on their looks or their ethnicity or they're this or they're that.

[948] But what you're doing is you're trying to dictate how humans communicate with each other.

[949] And people don't like it when you tell them what to do.

[950] The problem with telling people what to do is they want to do the exact opposite.

[951] This is one of the first things you realize when you have kids.

[952] Like, oh, they don't want to listen to me. Like, I've got to figure out a way to sneak information into them, you know, or you've got to figure out a way to not be too bossy.

[953] People don't want someone telling them what to do.

[954] this is what I missed when I was headed into that conversation I missed how other people looked at that guy and what he stands for I don't think it's correct I think it's way more complicated I think it's an insane business to run and I don't think he really knew why Alex Jones was banned or why anybody else was banned I don't think he really knew I think he's dealing with a giant corporation and he's a young guy and he wears sandals but wait wait wait what kind of sandals Some weird ones.

[955] Like that.

[956] Nice guy.

[957] Leave me alone, bro.

[958] Let's just choose.

[959] He runs a couple different companies.

[960] He's not sitting at Twitter's offices every day.

[961] That's another thing that Alex Jones brought up today, that he sponsors the podcast through the cash app, which he also runs.

[962] It's 100 % true.

[963] And I think we talked about it on the podcast.

[964] We even talked about the cash app being a sponsor and about how it's helped Justin Wrenz fight for the Forgotten charity.

[965] So Alex Jones erroneously said that I didn't mention it.

[966] So we did mention it.

[967] It's worth mentioning.

[968] And Alex Jones is having to, like, respond to people that want to know if I've seen what Alex Jones has said about me lately is one of the weird things that I've dealt with.

[969] Because, first of all, I've always had good dealings with Alex in person, person to person.

[970] But he's obviously in a world of shit right now.

[971] There's a lot going on with him with this Sandy Hook stuff.

[972] and he wasn't entirely honest with me about what he had said about Sandy Hook.

[973] Maybe he didn't remember.

[974] Maybe he was trying to phrase it in a way other than the way I interpreted it when I saw the videos, but there's a Media Matters video that shows all the time where he said that Sandy Hook was fake.

[975] This is very complicated to me. This is one of the reasons why I struggled with bringing him back on the podcast.

[976] That's very complicated.

[977] That is, even though I'm...

[978] I've known the guy since 1998, and if I'm around him, I'd say that's my friend Alex Jones.

[979] He's a friend.

[980] He obviously did something fucked up.

[981] And the parents that had to deal with what he did, there's parents that had to deal with people calling them a crisis actor.

[982] They had to deal with people harassing them at the courthouse and harassing them if they met them in public, because they were saying that they were lying about their kids being killed.

[983] So not only their kids being killed, but they have to deal with someone harassing them and saying you're a liar and you're an actor.

[984] It's insanity.

[985] And I wouldn't, I would think about it differently.

[986] I would definitely think about differently if I wasn't friends with Alex, but I would also think about it differently if he hadn't made shit up about me. He said that I was told to stop talking about conspiracies or they threaten my family.

[987] That's 100 % horseshit.

[988] and he has my phone number he could have called me I called him after I heard about it he told me that someone told him that I talked to the person who told him that I'm like this is fucking bananas like you're out of your mind call me this is so stupid you think I'm not talking about whatever fill in the blank whatever ridiculous conspiracy the Rothschilds the fucking Rockefellers whatever it is I'm not talking about that because the government threatened my family that is fucking wrong it's ridiculous and now you put it out there.

[989] So Alex Jones went on afterwards and he apologized and corrected it.

[990] Then recently, because I haven't had him on the podcast, he decided to start saying that I work for the CIA and that George Sorrow talking points, which I don't even know what these fucking talking points are, talking points about him in specific.

[991] Not talking to anybody.

[992] No one's giving me talking points.

[993] Not George Soros.

[994] That's not what Eddie Bravo has been saying.

[995] He got good, he got good, information through Joey Diaz.

[996] Eddie Raba doesn't even say that, so stop.

[997] Joey Diaz did fuck with Eddie for a while, though.

[998] But the point being, the point being, Alex, if you're out there, I still like you as a person.

[999] If I saw you, I'd still give you a hug.

[1000] But you're making shit up.

[1001] And this is not helping anybody wants to defend you.

[1002] It's not helping me as a person talk about the good qualities in you.

[1003] And you know these things that you're saying are made up.

[1004] making up the fact that I'm in the CIA.

[1005] You're making up for the fact that the Hollywood insiders have given me information and tell me what to say.

[1006] That's not true.

[1007] You know it's not true.

[1008] You know me. I don't have time to be a CIA insider.

[1009] I can't take on another job in between doing stand -up and podcasts and UFC commentator running a family.

[1010] I can't do it.

[1011] I wouldn't do it.

[1012] I'm not interested.

[1013] I'd rather stop doing everything than work for any government organization.

[1014] No one's ever approached me. No one's ever approached anybody I've ever heard of.

[1015] I don't even know if that really happens.

[1016] I don't know if that's the real thing.

[1017] The thing is they always say is that the CIA would talk to the people in Hollywood and tell them what to say in terms of propaganda.

[1018] Maybe.

[1019] I don't know.

[1020] I don't have any personal knowledge of it.

[1021] I'm sure someone has decided that if they're going to make a movie about like zero dark 30, that they have to get some sort of approval.

[1022] And I'm sure that a lot of movies that are very, inspirational that I have to do with the military would be great for recruitment.

[1023] So I'm sure there's some involvement.

[1024] I'm sure there's also some patriots that work in show business that want to put out these movies about the government and about the military in a very positive way.

[1025] That's probably the case in some instances too.

[1026] But not everything's a fucking conspiracy.

[1027] And this is why it's stupid.

[1028] And why it's stupid is some things are a fucking conspiracy.

[1029] And Alex Jones has talked about some things that were real conspiracies.

[1030] That 9 -11 documentary, The Road to Tyranny, details the World Trade Organization protest, where they sent in these agent provocateurs, which are essentially soldiers.

[1031] They send in soldiers and military people dressed up in all black and cover their face, and they smash windows and tip over things, and they take a peaceful protest, and they turn it violent, so then the police can move in and shut down the protest.

[1032] And then not only did they do that, but they made a no -protest zone in the United States of America.

[1033] A no protest zone.

[1034] Was it the United States of America?

[1035] It wasn't Vancouver, was it?

[1036] It was Seattle.

[1037] I thought it was Vancouver.

[1038] No, I think it's Seattle.

[1039] World Trade Organization protests.

[1040] You're talking about with the boots and they all had the same shoes?

[1041] Yeah, that shit.

[1042] But Alex detailed this, in detail.

[1043] And it was real.

[1044] When he makes things up, like there was one recently the David Packman show had on about Alex talking about people eating babies pituitary glands and scattered vandalism in the downtown Seattle yeah Seattle so they enforced a no protest zone that was in 2009 in 1999 rather was it 99 yeah December 1st 1999 the October 27 2009 was the article um yeah Alex did that that was real that was legit and it was very informative because I didn't know that that is how the government operated sometimes did you contact him the second time and go what the fuck's wrong I sent him a text message said this is why I won't talk to you you say crazy stupid shit like this but I don't hate the guy he's you know he'll scream and yell and call me a demon he's not a good place you're not in a good place when you're defending against that and what all these other conspiracies like it's all fun in games until you're talking about people's kids getting murdered and then all the sudden people are like fuck you and that's basically what happened with him if he was just ranting about government conspiracies or you know who shot this guy or who's stealing money from here.

[1045] Some of what he talks about is beneficial.

[1046] But Alex is not, I don't think he's in a good place.

[1047] I don't think he's in a good place mentally.

[1048] And I don't think he's in a good place in terms of his situation with the law.

[1049] I don't hate you, Alex Jones.

[1050] If you listen to this, if I saw you, I'd still give you a hug.

[1051] I'll still even do your fucking show when I come to Austin.

[1052] I don't care.

[1053] We can come and hang out.

[1054] But just stop making shit up.

[1055] It's silly.

[1056] And, you know, I'm sorry if there's bad stuff between us.

[1057] I'm more sorry of what you said about those kids.

[1058] I'm sorry about everything.

[1059] It's unfortunate.

[1060] It's all terrible.

[1061] Now, something like that, what's the road to redemption for someone like that?

[1062] Because the thing about people is, and I think this is also what's going on with Alex, people need a road to redemption.

[1063] Like if someone fucks up horribly and does something terrible, should that be the end of them this idea that we don't need them anymore no matter who it is I mean what what does a person have to do to grow and learn and for people just accept them again and let them on to all platforms again what what does a person have to do it's a real good question I think it's per person though like somebody like Alex just seems like he's getting worse and worse like this seems like what he did just you is just insane at me because I haven't had him on on.

[1064] I'm sure if he asked you or if he was in town.

[1065] I'm sorry.

[1066] No, no, do you not listening.

[1067] I said I didn't want to have him on.

[1068] I was trying to figure out whether I would have him on.

[1069] But when I watched the Media Matters video, it was very clear to me he wasn't being on.

[1070] I asked him if he had said that it was fake.

[1071] And he said he questioned whether or not it was real, but then eventually he acknowledged that it was real, which he has done.

[1072] But there was many times where he said it was fake.

[1073] Not one.

[1074] Many times.

[1075] It's absolutely.

[1076] fake it was 100 % fake there's video of it i didn't see the video before we did our 9 -11 podcast i've seen it now and i still thought about having them on i still thought about talking to him about it and and talking to him about all this shit and what it's like i think it's he plays a character honestly i don't think so i mean with the reptile guys and people and the things that he says none of half of it's just like what the fuck are you talking about i think he he definitely goes goes crazy with some things, but I don't think he's doing well.

[1077] But he was talking about eating baby's pituitary glands.

[1078] See if you find that David Pacman video.

[1079] David Packman, who's a progressive commentator online, he was going, look, something's wrong with him.

[1080] Like, he's playing this video.

[1081] Like, what?

[1082] He's talking about them breaking into morgue.

[1083] What is happening to Alex Johnson?

[1084] Yeah, see if you can find the part on the video where Alex is talking.

[1085] It's early on.

[1086] Sounds like schizophrenia.

[1087] It sounds like any episode of a live PD, or cops, you know, and people are talking like, I saw aliens upstairs in my house, you know, like the other guy, Owen Benjamin, look at him.

[1088] So you play this, plays for a quick.

[1089] It's all in plain view of these people.

[1090] They're just putting it in our face, and they want a system where we can't do anything to stop them.

[1091] That's like Bill Maher, the name of his production company, is Kid Love, which is his nameable slogan, basically.

[1092] Then he makes jokes about having sexual kids all the time.

[1093] And says, it's okay to have sex with you know kids didn't have sex with 35 year olds with they're 12 just incredibly outrageous evil pathetic stuff of these soulless demons like Bill Maher but Josh was saying he had a theory dealing with what walnut sauce is and are you to say it's the pituitary gland because they confirmed that Jimmy Sevel and others would torture little kids to death but if they couldn't get regular ones to kill if everything was to grab a kid run over with the cars they could say oh there's a police report they had run over but they would hurry to the morgue and they work with different different government control morgues and eat the pituitary gland as quickly as possible uh and and get high off of it so yes yeah okay okay that's yeah that's yeah that's first of all bill marr's not a fucking pedophile this is this is crazy this is like a weird rambling and this is not Alex that I knew from 1998.

[1094] It's just not.

[1095] It's not the same guy.

[1096] This is a guy who's not doing well.

[1097] So my apology as a human being to Alex Jones.

[1098] If you were hurt that I didn't have you back on the show, if you were hurt that I occasionally poke fun at you, I have to.

[1099] You're hilarious, unfortunately.

[1100] But I don't hate you.

[1101] I don't wish you badly.

[1102] And back in the day i enjoyed a lot of your stuff people lose their way you know so i think that um it's a real bad feeling being stuck on the outside too when they all band together and kick you out and everybody kicks you out everybody twitter and facebook and everybody and youtube and twitter was the last one but uh that was jack dorsey didn't even know why al shones got kicked off of twitter and people are like, well, let them back in that.

[1103] Like, yeah, but somebody knows.

[1104] Like, somebody, like, I don't think Jack Dorsey is really the guy who's looking at each individual person that gets banned.

[1105] I just have a feeling that that stuff is compartmentalized, right?

[1106] Of course.

[1107] Of course, it's a bunch of people.

[1108] Right, but how many people are responsible for banning people in real high -profile people, though?

[1109] I don't know.

[1110] I'm sure there's a whole, like, maybe 12 people.

[1111] they have to have a meeting then they you know maybe they talk to jack maybe they they it's a position who yeah right maybe he doesn't we don't know i'll ask that for sure but maybe he didn't know when people got banned until he like maybe got a company memo maybe he wasn't involved in the of course maybe i don't know maybe he's the one of called him up and said get rid of this motherfucker that's possible too yeah like here's another one right here's one that people had an issue with and one thing you could say okay um like um when Kathy Griffin held up the Trump head.

[1112] Remember that?

[1113] Did she do that on her own Twitter account?

[1114] Yeah.

[1115] She, yeah.

[1116] Well, I mean, she posted a photo of it.

[1117] Where did she posted?

[1118] She posted on Instagram or Twitter.

[1119] I think it was on both.

[1120] I'm not 100 % sure.

[1121] Right.

[1122] So that is it allowed, it's allowed because it's newsworthy because it's a celebrity.

[1123] And the celebrity is threatening a public figure who, also the most powerful person in the world, so it's okay?

[1124] Is that why that is?

[1125] I think she posted it because it was an art piece that was kind of controversial.

[1126] Oh, no, no, no. I know that.

[1127] And that's what I'm saying.

[1128] I'm saying, why is it okay?

[1129] Why is she still allowed to be on the platform and Alex Jones gets kicked off?

[1130] That's an interesting question, right?

[1131] Like, what do you need to do to get kicked off?

[1132] Because that's not the only thing that Kathy's done.

[1133] Recently, she was one of the people that was calling for the name for that young boy who was with that Native American in front of his face beating the drum.

[1134] It's crazy.

[1135] Irresponsible.

[1136] I'm sure she feels bad about it now in retrospect, especially if she's watched the video.

[1137] But she got carried away and she thought what we all thought when we saw the picture.

[1138] That's a smirking cunt of a kid that got in the face this beautiful indigenous man is singing his rain dance cry or whatever the fuck he's doing.

[1139] Yeah, that's not what it was, though.

[1140] We found out afterwards it was much more complicated.

[1141] What is their song?

[1142] What were they and sounding cool they should make a record yeah do you like that shit that shit's cool to listen to when you work out if you get like some some legit native american chance like that put you into a trance right if you don't know what they're saying you just go running and you listen to that take a little couple toks go for go for a jog in the woods listen to native american chance on your air pods that was an interesting video though because i mean that was a 180 after just hearing the side of the story like 12 hours later and people still were calling for that guy's head yeah yeah and people i saw someone who said um what's his name ron perlman no who's the guy who was a hellboy yeah ron perlman ron perlman was like motherfuckers are telling me that uh i'm not seeing what i'm seeing and she said something about some white prick or white motherfucker i'm like oh okay like people try so hard like you you are seeing what you're seeing yeah you're seeing what you're seeing But what you're not seeing is a video that shows how it occurred.

[1143] It's all it is.

[1144] Yeah.

[1145] You know?

[1146] So why is that okay, right?

[1147] Why is that okay?

[1148] Why is it okay for some journalists to say horrible things about white people?

[1149] Why is that okay?

[1150] It seems weird.

[1151] What if it encourages violence against a innocent white person?

[1152] Just one.

[1153] Should you be responsible?

[1154] What if they say, why did you do that?

[1155] Well, I read Blah Blah's tweet.

[1156] And I was like, you know what, I am going to go out and punch a white person.

[1157] Fuck that.

[1158] I just found some white old lady and I beat her ass.

[1159] Like, if someone decides that, you're not responsible for that, are you?

[1160] Probably not.

[1161] But you kind of feel like you play it apart in the way people look at things, especially people that are very easily influenced.

[1162] You know, it's just also, it's gross.

[1163] You read something really racist against white people.

[1164] You're like, that's gross.

[1165] Like, you think all people are like that?

[1166] a whole group of people that don't have as much melanin they're all shit that's ridiculous you're a ridiculous person I don't care if you're brown or black or yellow you're ridiculous that's silly so we have to decide to get to decide like what the fuck we're doing and we keep letting illogical behavior be normal like breaking us off into fucking groups like that and thinking that you know all men are great or all women are great or all gay or all gay bays are great and all straight cisgendered men can go fuck themselves all right that's that's silly talk i don't care who you are you're not allowed to do that but we let people do that if they're a part of a marginalized class if someone's a part of a marginalized class then you get to shit on everybody in a weird way you get to like reinforce racism it's really it's so fucking counterproductive too because if you do that then it just makes people just get defensive on the other side They don't even want to even think or empathize with how you are.

[1167] Whatever, bro.

[1168] Social media has really made everything annoying, hasn't it?

[1169] It has made it.

[1170] It's been great, too, though.

[1171] It's both.

[1172] Dude, Twitter is like, like we're saying, when someone says something dumb, like Trump will say something dumb sometimes, and I'll just go there for the memes.

[1173] And I'll just read his post, and it'll get me going in the morning.

[1174] I'll get, like, 15 minutes of ha -haz.

[1175] You probably missed this story yesterday.

[1176] Have you heard any of the 21 Savage News?

[1177] Oh, you got deported, right?

[1178] Because everyone found out yesterday that he's apparently from, the UK.

[1179] And so like the story, there's two stories.

[1180] That is part of the story, but memes of him being from the UK and a British rapper that's Rosalie from Atlanta really took over to the fact like Demi Lovato tweeted it and she got shit on and she's deleted her Twitter now because of the response to that.

[1181] Did you know who this guy was before?

[1182] No, but I'm 51 years old man. No, no shit.

[1183] Number one record in the out like in the country.

[1184] Really?

[1185] Well, Jamie's on Black Twitter.

[1186] Jesus.

[1187] It's just a pop music.

[1188] But you're on black twitter sure sure right could be too i am i am i follow a lot of them i don't know any of these like tech nines and sushi fours or whatever that guy's fucked that dekeshi six nine he's fucked maybe what do you mean maybe well they're saying he's talking he might get a lot of it is still fucked he's fucked he's fucked he's going to jail for a long time with a tattoo of six nine on his face he's going to jail he's going to have real problems that ain't good they're the man did you read the list of charges there's murder involved yeah murder conspiracy video of him supposedly calling a hit on someone oh geez that was put on tmc oh my god oh he's fucked man yeah even if he cooperates if they put a hit on someone because he said it Jesus yeah he won't he won't get like the death penalty but now he'll be like life in prison you know he'll be someone's fleshlight yeah heck yeah yeah it's a real problem soldier boy's in jail too isn't he is for what He got arrested.

[1189] I didn't.

[1190] Yeah, he did.

[1191] He beat up his girl and his girl beat him up.

[1192] No, no, no, that was a little bow wow.

[1193] You son of a bitch.

[1194] You just shamed soldier boy for no reason with your shitty pot -addled memory.

[1195] You son of a bitch.

[1196] Jamie's right.

[1197] I know it was a little bow wow.

[1198] No, there was something else.

[1199] Hold on, yep.

[1200] Jesus Christ.

[1201] He's accused of kidnapping a woman.

[1202] Oh, kidnapping.

[1203] I'm sorry.

[1204] So you got the stories conflated.

[1205] Kidnapping is even worse.

[1206] He tied a girl up to a chair using an extension cord and kept her for six or six or seven hours in his garage.

[1207] Whoa.

[1208] Oh, he's going to jail forever.

[1209] What do you do that for?

[1210] That's someone's daughter.

[1211] What do you do that for?

[1212] Jealousy, I think.

[1213] It said, this is apparently, according to celebrity news outlet, the woman whose name, I will not say, apparently was backing out of a driveway, and her car hit Soldier's L .A. home when she hit the curb.

[1214] Or at his house when she hit the curb.

[1215] From that point on, his assistant reportedly became upset and started fighting with her.

[1216] From there, Solja allegedly stepped outside.

[1217] and tried to break up the fight.

[1218] The woman says that he began punching and kicking her when she was on the ground and then tied her up for six hours.

[1219] Oh, God, soldier boy.

[1220] Well.

[1221] At least Nintendo.

[1222] One would wish that cooler heads would prevail, but that sounds like a fucking disaster.

[1223] Yeah.

[1224] Jesus Christ.

[1225] Yikes.

[1226] You never hear about the spin doctors causing any problems, right guys?

[1227] She hit a curb?

[1228] This all started?

[1229] She hit a curb with his car or something?

[1230] She's curbed one of his wheels Wasn't enough information on there, I don't know Yeah Yeah, she probably curbed one of his wheels Probably was a nice car And she didn't know what the fuck she was doing I can drive And she What a dick Tied her up and beat her up That's Jesus crazy Allegedly Allegedly Right right right You gotta always say that Yeah Been denied by this team Did you see that video That old man Putting the ice on the ground And then pretending you fell Oh that's yeah Allegedly Brilliant Allegedly Allegedly There's no allegedly needed for that.

[1231] It's amazing.

[1232] It's amazing to watch because he didn't know there was a security camera there.

[1233] You tried to collect.

[1234] Yeah.

[1235] There's a lot of people that do that, man. I've seen videos of people doing that at the mall.

[1236] They'll, like, throw a drink down and then slide down on the drink.

[1237] We had a guy do it once.

[1238] A movie theater I worked at, and we had it on video also, and we just showed him the video, and then he left and never heard anything about it.

[1239] But he was bitching up a storm, like he was hurt.

[1240] Watch this guy.

[1241] This guy's hilarious.

[1242] So he's walking, he looks around, chuck some ice on the ground.

[1243] A little bit of ice there.

[1244] No big deal.

[1245] I'm just going to go over here.

[1246] La -di -da -da -da.

[1247] Okay, here we go.

[1248] Watch this.

[1249] He looks around, make sure no one's looking.

[1250] Oh.

[1251] Even fell like a bitch.

[1252] My back.

[1253] It's like holding his drinks.

[1254] The most ridiculous.

[1255] Look at that.

[1256] Silly man. Silly, silly man. The thing about those guys is like anybody that does that kind of shit, I think the cops, all they have to do is go, sure, what's your social security number?

[1257] And they look up all the shit that he's also done.

[1258] Yeah.

[1259] Like, you don't, that ain't just a little bit of a scam.

[1260] That's a guy who's been scamming.

[1261] It's like in Russia and stuff or other countries where everyone's doing the insurance scams.

[1262] And so to the point where everybody has to have dash cams on their car now.

[1263] Yeah, there's a lot of that in Russia.

[1264] You just triggered a story I heard over the weekend.

[1265] There's a not, it's, I think this is a story happening in Houston where the cops broke into a house where they had heard that there was, they think they had a warrant.

[1266] Report was that neighbors had called in black tar heroin sales or something like that at this house so they broke in without knocking it was like a no knock warrant uh the guy is like 57 in the house here's someone break into this house gets a shotgun shoots one of the cops they kill him his wife is like what the fuck's going on she goes to try to grab the other cop's gun that had just fallen she gets shot two people are dead and they didn't find any heroin oh jesus there's like some weed in there or something like that uh oh and so people are like they didn't have a history of doing much from what I That's why I thought of it because they looked back to these guys Did they have an arrest history or anything And there wasn't anything that they had found At least when I read about it Do you remember the one where there was a mayor Outside of Washington, D .C., and they were using his house as an address And it was something with the mail delivery guy was running weed And so the mail delivery guy would come by And the package was addressed to him But he would just keep the package because he knew that this was this guy's house it was on his route and that way you know as the package came in the mail would be his to deliver but instead of delivering it he would hold on to it so they break into the mayor's house no you know the whole the soul to shoot his fucking dogs shoot his dog and he had like one of my dogs like Marshall so like a super duper sweet dog either yellow lab which is real similar I think it was a yellow lab might have been a golden retriever either way they fucking shot at least one of his dogs how'd they not know it was the mayor's house you think that would be like a like on a list they didn't google shit or maybe they did or maybe they thought fucking the mayor's a drug dealer yeah maybe they really thought that but that kind of shit is dark man we just go shoot a golden retriever come on you're not a pussy and i know you're going in there because you think this is a real drug running operation because the cops just got bad information right but you're not a pussy you don't have to shoot a fucking labrador stop you think that thing's going to bite you well when it does shoot it then it's not going to bite you The fuck out of here.

[1267] That's a weird power trip shit thing.

[1268] You shoot all dogs.

[1269] No, look, if a guy's got a wolf and it's off the chain, it's running at you, yeah, shoot it.

[1270] But you're breaking into some guy's house and then you shoot his fucking dog.

[1271] What if you're wrong?

[1272] Like, you are a lot?

[1273] You're cool with shooting someone's fucking dog in front of their kids?

[1274] That's what happened to the mayor of this town, the fucking mayor.

[1275] I bet the guy was the mail carrier just thought it was cute to use the mayor's address.

[1276] Get all the weed delivered.

[1277] Maybe he didn't.

[1278] Maybe he voted for his opponent.

[1279] Or he thought it was safe.

[1280] for to do it that way.

[1281] Did you get a Tesla?

[1282] Or you just driving around a...

[1283] I got one.

[1284] Tell me, how do you like it?

[1285] It's preposterous.

[1286] I had to get one.

[1287] I told Elon Musk I would get one.

[1288] Guy did my podcast.

[1289] I owe him a solid.

[1290] I'm a man of my word.

[1291] It's a fucking spaceship.

[1292] It's the weirdest thing I've ever driven in my life.

[1293] It doesn't even make sense.

[1294] It's not even...

[1295] There's not a single car that I've ever driven that's even close to his fast.

[1296] Nothing.

[1297] Like, my Porsche is so...

[1298] slow.

[1299] I have a GT3RS.

[1300] It has 518 horsepower.

[1301] It weighs 3 ,000 pounds.

[1302] It sounds like a dragon.

[1303] And that Tesla would leave it in the dust.

[1304] I mean, leave it in the dust like zero to 62 seconds quicker.

[1305] It's fucking insane.

[1306] You're taking it out of a...

[1307] No. Ludicrous mode.

[1308] Yeah, I did.

[1309] I put it in chill mode for a little box.

[1310] But you could drive chill with ludicrous mode always available.

[1311] You don't have to keep switching back and forth.

[1312] Ludicrous mode is just crazy.

[1313] like the fastest and then it kills your battery Well it kills your battery quicker But the thrust that you get Is a roller coaster ride It's insane I mean you can't believe how fast it is It doesn't even it literally doesn't make sense It doesn't seem right It seems like like it's punching its way Through a wormhole Using alien technology Meanwhile I posted It seems like Something Bob Lazar snuck out of Area 51 I get all these messages from people Bob Lazar has been debunked That's controlled opposition that's a fake story it's fake news bro they got you with the bob lazar story do you like all the tech in it i mean that's insane it's too much almost because it's this giant screen like i had to dim it way the fuck down because i wasn't just looking at it like you're so pretty it's so pretty it's so pretty my dream card it's very comfortable how long super comfortable now do you have a supercharge station at your house yet or do you have a thing on the wall at my house okay that i could plug it into it's not a supercharge it takes like eight hours eight hours or more and how many minds are But I'm going to get one of those.

[1314] I'm going to get one of those fast charger in the house.

[1315] It goes allegedly.

[1316] And I mean allegedly.

[1317] 311 miles.

[1318] But here's the problem.

[1319] I drive like a moron.

[1320] So it's not going that far.

[1321] Did you get, is there a fuel option for that model?

[1322] Like, are you?

[1323] I mean, I think there's a fuel add -on that gives you an extra, like, that you, that's an option.

[1324] I thought you meant fuel, like gasoline.

[1325] Yeah.

[1326] There's a, no. What are you talking?

[1327] Some models.

[1328] Not Tesla.

[1329] Not Tesla?

[1330] Okay.

[1331] You're just making shit up, bro.

[1332] Some, I figure which car it is.

[1333] A car.

[1334] It's got four wheels.

[1335] Electric car is like you can pay extra for like one gallon of gas.

[1336] So like if you ever lose your battery.

[1337] Oh, I have heard of that.

[1338] Yeah, what was that?

[1339] I thought Tesla had that.

[1340] No, no, no, no. There was like, uh, Prius?

[1341] Priuses are mixed.

[1342] They're hybrids.

[1343] Priuses use gasoline, but a very stingy amount of gasoline.

[1344] They run partially on electric motors.

[1345] So do the accurate.

[1346] NSX.

[1347] The Accura NSX has two electric motors, but I think you don't ever charge it.

[1348] I think the electric motors are powered by the gasoline engine and electricity in the car, if I remember right.

[1349] That's supposed to be the motherfucker.

[1350] The Accura NSX is supposed to be the car that people are underlooking for whatever reason.

[1351] It just doesn't get the love that it deserves, and apparently the 2019 model is even more insane.

[1352] I can't wait to the day where your garage floor is like a wireless charging mat you just pull right up into the mat or they well it never would be because it's rubber well they're i'm sure they're fine away because like there's a there's there's like if you if you take your phone and put on a wireless charger there's like a little room that if you don't you don't have to touch it like maybe that's the whole reason why you're safe from getting hit by lightning bro yeah like that the rubber protects you from electricity but if you park though a little thing comes down to the ground like a little maybe yeah what if that thing falls out while you're driving a little bonkers your car over or like if the streets like if somehow like if you're riding on the highway and if you want to fuel up that you can like fuel up using the road they like pay like a fee or something right well really ideally it would be great if solar panels had gotten so powerful that they could charge it just with the sun especially because southern california's always fucking sunny except for today but it's a matter of time that the car is the future that's what it is it really is look i'm a giant fan of american muscle cars they're my all -time favorite cars in terms of like to drive to hear the rumble of the end engine and that i love them i love them maybe i'm some crazy old dude from the fucking 80s that still loves 1960s muscle cars maybe i don't care i love them but that fucking car is the future that tesla is the future like when you drive it you realize oh other cars are stupid is there that's that new one crazy rocket they showed today you're shooting rockets out in his backyard is that his house is there anything that you don't like on the that or something that kind of bugs do you that you wish was like I don't like how there's no door handles you know no no nothing you just got to figure it out it just takes a little while to figure out what all yeah different buttons do and how to how to get things to happen but it's really well thought out it's a look he's a legit genius you know and what he's doing is unprecedented and you know this is going to sound like i'm kissing his ass because i like him because he did the podcast and then i became friends with him But no, he's important.

[1353] The guy's got ideas that are of a magnitude that dummies like you and me are never going to come up with any of those ideas, ever.

[1354] If we lived a thousand lives, we would never figure out SpaceX.

[1355] It's just not on our wheelhouse.

[1356] We would never make a fucking electric car.

[1357] We never make one of those things.

[1358] Never make that Tesla Roadster that's going to come out that goes zero to 60 in 1 .9 seconds and looks like a spaceship, like a race car spaceship from the future.

[1359] We're not doing that, dude We need people like that Those guys are super important This guy is He's like a culture changer Like a legit culture changer And you got him to smoke weed Jesus He wanted to He's a ad blocker Busted Ha ha ha I'm looking for the new Toyota Super man We both had Supros growing up Dude the new one looks dope So this is the SpaceX rocket Rocket yeah It says space What does it say at the top It says built a stainless steel rocket ship in Texas that looks like liquid silver and might launch in February.

[1360] Didn't it, what year, what day is this article?

[1361] January 11th, a couple weeks ago.

[1362] Yeah, okay, it fell over.

[1363] Yeah, I know they've been doing stuff more with it, but I just know how cool it looks.

[1364] It looks like...

[1365] But I mean, it fell.

[1366] It fell on the ground.

[1367] While it was standing there?

[1368] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1369] It got blown over in the wind.

[1370] It looks like a drawing for a rocket from the 1900s.

[1371] I don't know if he did it on purpose, but it looks just like a rocket.

[1372] It looks like a fucking movie Like Buck Rogers That's a Buck Rogers rocket You're right It looks dope, though Dude, driving that car really feels like Like the future And did you get the best model Or is what the Of course you did But yeah I got the Model S P100D is what it's called It's paid off my car I might just sell and get one of those I'm so tempted But you have to have a place to park it That has a little charge port Yeah, I mean, I have it in a power outlet.

[1373] They could probably convert it.

[1374] Yeah, yeah.

[1375] I think there's a couple superchargers in Burbank.

[1376] Yeah, there's one across the street, but it's always taken.

[1377] I don't know what the...

[1378] You know what's weird, man?

[1379] Passing by gas stations and going, I'm never going to use you with this.

[1380] Yeah.

[1381] I'm never pulling in there unless I want a soda.

[1382] Look at that thing.

[1383] That's ridiculous.

[1384] Zero to 60 in 1 .9 seconds.

[1385] And I'm telling you, man, that's not an unrealistic number.

[1386] 620 miles?

[1387] Yes.

[1388] Wait, when does this come out?

[1389] A couple years.

[1390] Oh.

[1391] It's going to be a while.

[1392] uh i'm gonna get one 100 % by your old one this is such a dope car man it doesn't even makes it why does it not have a side mirror it's got no side mirrors maybe as cameras fuck that surrendering of it probably does shut my mouth i tell you a goddamn side mirror you sons of bitches i i love my camera uh cameras on my car i don't even use my side mirrors it's so much better having that look at that thing how much is that 620 mile i don't know probably stupid expensive Look how pretty it is It's too pretty to be cheap Look how fucking sick That thing looks Look at it I mean it's like The ultimate sports car Like that looks like a That easily could be a new 9 -11 Like from that angle Particularly And then the roof comes off It looks like gamer seats Look at those gamer seats right there Oh not only that But that's what racing seats It's like But that's why they were racing seats first And then became gamer seats But the steering wheel's wonky The steering wheel's like a F1 Like a Formula 1 car See it?

[1393] Oh it's like a wear yeah yeah it's like you grab it by the handles maybe they want to make sure that you don't do this kind of shit like you this is so fast you probably need to hold onto it in a different way dude i'm telling you that the car that i that i got beautiful i've never experienced anything like that before you don't think it's real you don't think a car can do that it doesn't make any sense what 245 000 oh damn shop that chat oh my gosh that's five one point Plus the $5 ,000.

[1394] Oh, $250 ,000.

[1395] $250.

[1396] It's probably going to sell out in five seconds, too.

[1397] You're going to pay it and take it.

[1398] Every dickhead in Hollywood will have one.

[1399] Look at me. I'm environmentally conscious, but still sexy.

[1400] Look at my beads.

[1401] Look at my open shirt.

[1402] Do do, do, do, do, do.

[1403] I went into a vault the other day as an Uber, and I was amazed by that.

[1404] Yeah, they're pretty sweet.

[1405] I think that's a hybrid, right?

[1406] No, no, it's all electric.

[1407] Yeah, I mean, it had like five different cameras, and it was pretty sweet.

[1408] Did he ask him how long the range is?

[1409] Yeah, it wasn't as good as, I think it was like 2 .30, I think he said.

[1410] That's not bad, though.

[1411] If you're driving around Hollywood, you could probably get a whole night in, you know, if you're Uber in.

[1412] Audi just announced Thursday yesterday with the Super Bowl commercial.

[1413] Oh, it looks nasty.

[1414] I've seen it.

[1415] It looks nasty.

[1416] Yeah, it looks nasty.

[1417] Like Jackson nasty or bad nasty?

[1418] It looks like, uh, I think you might be thinking of a different one.

[1419] I'm thinking of the R8.

[1420] They took, let me. Oh, get that out of that.

[1421] Take that away.

[1422] Look that stupid grill.

[1423] That actually looks like a regular Audi, is what it looks like.

[1424] But Google Audi electric sports car.

[1425] That doesn't look bad.

[1426] That looks like a standard SUV.

[1427] That looks pretty good.

[1428] What's the mile on that thing?

[1429] What's the mileage?

[1430] The range.

[1431] The range is everything on these fucking things.

[1432] Because if it's anything below like 300 miles.

[1433] What's that safe?

[1434] Come back up.

[1435] I was comparing it.

[1436] It's comparing the amount of time you charge it and what it takes to charge.

[1437] get certain things.

[1438] Oh, the model X, well, Model X only does 144 miles.

[1439] And it does 160 miles.

[1440] That ain't good.

[1441] It's on that, on that kind of charger or something like that.

[1442] Dude, that ain't good.

[1443] Manufacture estimate.

[1444] That ain't good.

[1445] After 30 minutes.

[1446] That's only after 30 minutes.

[1447] Oh, how much you get in 30 minutes?

[1448] Well, that's not, that's pretty good in 30 minutes.

[1449] Oh, so you can get 160 miles where the charge in 30 minutes.

[1450] That's not bad.

[1451] That's a long time, though.

[1452] If you've got to go somewhere, if you're in a rush, you can't just pull it and get gas but you don't want the kind of power that would it take i mean you imagine how many dipshit that's it that's that's the outy look at that thing brian oh yeah i like that i like that better no that's that's that's the etron one so it's basically an alty r8 a next generation alty r8 go to that yeah and the one yeah that's what it looks like that's a nasty looking car it's a dope electric etron but that says 19 that says 2016 yeah i think this is 2016 when they announced it back at like the car shows and whatnot and it's just now coming each one's probably what they're calling there.

[1453] See Google see if it actually is a real thing or is it still just a concept because they always like there's a lot of those cars they'll disappoint the shit out of you.

[1454] 279 miles.

[1455] Oh so it's a real thing.

[1456] When is it available?

[1457] I wonder when that's going out.

[1458] I said 2020 right there.

[1459] 2022.

[1460] Yeah so that's probably the same time the rose just coming out.

[1461] But look how they're get your dick hard years in advance you could have ordered it in 2015 so rude though oh man it's so rude to get your dick hard so far in advance yeah you know like if you're like yeah I'm gonna be fucking super environmental but I'm gonna just show everybody what's up we'll be stunting wow you see the new Volkswagen doom buggy that looks pretty fun no what is that you sell a doom buggy it was just announced I'm not sure if when it's for sale or if it's for sale but it looks pretty fun It looks like a classic Dune Buggy, but they Volkswagened it.

[1462] And it has no roof, but it looks like a little fun car.

[1463] I don't know if there's a picture of that and not.

[1464] Yeah.

[1465] All right.

[1466] It's a new one?

[1467] Yeah.

[1468] So it looks kind of cool, right?

[1469] Whoa.

[1470] You could drive that on the road?

[1471] Yeah.

[1472] So it's a road car.

[1473] But is it still a Dune Bungi?

[1474] 2025.

[1475] Again!

[1476] Exactly.

[1477] It's cock teasing.

[1478] You sons of bitches.

[1479] That looks fun.

[1480] Well, they were supposed to announce the new Bronco.

[1481] Everybody thought it was going to happen at the Detroit Auto Show.

[1482] Oh, yeah.

[1483] But it came and went.

[1484] Came and went with no Bronco.

[1485] That makes no sense, though, because it's actually on their website.

[1486] Like, they were going to announce it soon as for sale, I thought.

[1487] I don't think they said that they were going to, they probably don't have it down.

[1488] You know, sometimes when they're working on these experimental vehicles, they'll develop something, but then they don't like certain aspects of it or then maybe they're aware of a competitor's work that might come out with more horsepower.

[1489] So they have to, like, for instance, like the GT 500 from Ford, it was on its way out.

[1490] They were going to put it out the new one, but they were saying that it has over 700 horsepower.

[1491] They never say that.

[1492] They always give you the exact specific number.

[1493] They always say 750 horsepower.

[1494] It says coming in 2020.

[1495] It's their website.

[1496] Okay, but they didn't show it at the...

[1497] They're probably going to make a special day for it.

[1498] That I might be interesting.

[1499] Fuck, yeah, it's going to be nasty looking.

[1500] You see what it looks like?

[1501] Yeah.

[1502] It looks cool as fuck.

[1503] They don't have any pictures of it?

[1504] No, because it's just...

[1505] Right, it's the Ford website.

[1506] It doesn't have pictures of it because they haven't released it yet.

[1507] Right.

[1508] But what was I just saying?

[1509] What was I just saying?

[1510] We're talking about what before the Bronco?

[1511] The Volkswagen Beetle?

[1512] the buggy.

[1513] No, you were saying switch to the Bronco.

[1514] I don't remember, Jamie.

[1515] Fucked me. Oh, about how this king pushed back because, you know, somebody who might, like this car is faster.

[1516] Yeah, that's right.

[1517] The Shelby, the GT 500.

[1518] They said it's only it's over 700 horsepower.

[1519] The reason why they said that is because Dodge came out with the demon and then they came out with some other version of the Hellcat.

[1520] It's also like 800 horsepower.

[1521] So if you come out with only 700 horsepower, It's hard because as ridiculous as that sounds, some people are going to think, yeah, but it's not the ZR1, that's got 750, or it's not the this or the that.

[1522] So they haven't said exactly what the horsepower rating is because they're still trying to juice it up.

[1523] That might be the case of the Bronco, too.

[1524] They might be trying to fix things and juice things out.

[1525] But look how good that looks.

[1526] Red with the black stripes.

[1527] Good Lord.

[1528] I love red and black.

[1529] See, that car is a reckless person's car.

[1530] That's the difference between that And like a Tesla What's exciting about that car The way it looks That is a ridiculous person's car Like if that's what you drive around every day You're not a fucking madman You're probably a little tipsy sometimes You drive You know You might smoke cigarettes You definitely smoke cigars You know You probably order shots Right That's a ridiculous person It's a fun -ass fucking car But yeah Keto on weekends Look at the transmission not only is it an automatic, it's a wheel.

[1531] It's a wheel that you spin to drive.

[1532] Like, fuck you.

[1533] First of all, give me a goddamn stick shift like an American.

[1534] I want a stick shift with the fucking American flag as the boot of the stick shift.

[1535] It's one of the last places on the planet where you can still get a goddamn stick shift sports car.

[1536] And what does Ford do?

[1537] They release the GT 500 with an automatic.

[1538] How dare you?

[1539] Don't talk to me about paddles.

[1540] You can shift it manually with the, I hate paddles.

[1541] Pettles are so stupid.

[1542] That's not a manual transmission, sir.

[1543] That's shifting in with the paddles.

[1544] What's my left foot doing?

[1545] Should I pretend?

[1546] How about give me a fake clutch?

[1547] Fake clutch where I can pretend.

[1548] They look dope, though.

[1549] Look how good that silver one looks.

[1550] It looks cool.

[1551] Silver with the black stripes.

[1552] God damn, that looks good.

[1553] The red one with the black stripes, too.

[1554] So these come out later this year?

[1555] At the end of the year, kind of?

[1556] Yeah, I think so.

[1557] Or I guess they haven't announced it yet so.

[1558] I don't think they have announced the specific data comes out.

[1559] but it looks like it's got wider bodywork too doesn't it like the fenders are wider in the rear in the front but you if you want if you don't want to wait you can get something even more powerful that is available right now with a manual transmission you get the uh shelby super snake google that you want to see america at its rock hard finest 2019 or 18 Shelby super snake 800 motherfucker fucking horsepower, wide body Mustang with a manual transmission.

[1560] And they say, don't even fuck with the automatic, because the automatic transmission is the transmission from a regular automatic Mustang, and it just doesn't know what the fuck to do.

[1561] I mean, it's just, it's confused by this thing.

[1562] The car has 800 horsepower.

[1563] Turn that volume up.

[1564] America.

[1565] Come on.

[1566] Look at that.

[1567] Woo!

[1568] Yeah, that's not, to me, that's sexy, but not worth $117 ,000.

[1569] Shut your fucking communist mouth.

[1570] That is a monster of a car.

[1571] Good Lord, that's a beautiful thing.

[1572] On your Tesla, can you download sound effects so it sounds like that?

[1573] No, I don't want that.

[1574] You don't want that.

[1575] You want to just be cool.

[1576] Just chill.

[1577] Tesla's like you're a man of leisure.

[1578] You're a man of leisure.

[1579] You're driving around.

[1580] It's so sexy.

[1581] Comfortable and quiet.

[1582] As it flies around.

[1583] It's like it's going through a wormhole everywhere you drive it.

[1584] very strange car have you tried to self -driving yet have you it's nerve -wracking isn't it Kevin Pereira took me on it once and it's pretty scary yeah Brian Cowan does that I think it's beating off a lot he's driving put porn on that big screen I hear you can no I was like that's great can you imagine just driving people are on autopilot just beating off to porn in that giant ass screen does it have a web browser in it seems like it I haven't even looked.

[1585] Man. I'm sure it does something.

[1586] Yeah.

[1587] You could probably get online if it's parked or something ridiculous like that.

[1588] It's a crazy car.

[1589] But it seems like such a leap from anything that I've ever driven before.

[1590] Like, I've never experienced anything remotely close to it.

[1591] So let's go fucking play some quake.

[1592] Hell yeah.

[1593] So I said everything I wanted to say about the Jack Dorsey thing.

[1594] I said everything I wanted to say to Alex Jones.

[1595] so my olive branch extended to you Mr. Jones I wish you well in this life and everybody else we'll do better we're going to definitely have Jack back on and we're going to have Jack back on and review some of these cases with some of the people that are in charge with it of it rather and we're going to compile a list we're going to try to get someone to compile a list of what they think would be contradictory cases or hypocritical cases or interesting cases or just fuel for conversation and we'll figure it out.

[1596] And yeah, the Cash App is one of the sponsors of the podcast.

[1597] I'm 99 .9 % sure we said that.

[1598] I'm positive we did because we talked about Justin Wren's fight for the forgotten charity about what that code word Rogan is doing for Pygmies in the Congo when they do that.

[1599] I swear to you, even though you don't have to believe me, that did not affect how I talked to that guy.

[1600] I don't have a problem getting sponsors.

[1601] I got plenty of sponsors.

[1602] It's a good sponsor.

[1603] I like them.

[1604] They do good things.

[1605] they donate $5 to UFC fighter Ray Borg's son's medical bills for every time someone uses the code Joe Rogan so I like them.

[1606] If I had them as a sponsor and I couldn't talk freely with him, I would be happy if they drop me. I would be way happier for them to drop me than I would for me to say something different or not say something because they're a sponsor.

[1607] Again, that sounds very self -serving.

[1608] Like you would say that, right?

[1609] But it's true.

[1610] That's all I can tell you.

[1611] All right, so that's it for today.

[1612] Bye.

[1613] Say bye to everybody.

[1614] Bye.

[1615] Bye, see you.