#1098 - Eddie Bravo

[0] No headphones?

[1] I'd rather not have headphones.

[2] You're getting crazy.

[3] No, because I learned that.

[4] I learned that hearing my own voice in my head makes me focus on it, and I don't want to focus on the sound of my voice.

[5] I want to focus on the thoughts.

[6] I'm focusing on, ooh, it's like blowing out in my head and all this shit's going on.

[7] That's smart.

[8] Tell me one.

[9] What's up?

[10] Oh.

[11] We're talking about whether or not you should have headphones on or not have headphones on.

[12] Are we up?

[13] No. If you're hearing the audio recording this, what's happening is we switch to a new tricaster.

[14] We were having problems with our old one.

[15] The tricaster is the machine that allows Jamie to switch cameras and put everything up on the internet and hopefully include Skype so we could get some people from like...

[16] It's getting signal, but there's no video showing.

[17] Are we going to restart?

[18] I don't know.

[19] I'm trying to make sure that that's actually true.

[20] Sorry.

[21] That's okay.

[22] We might have to restart, folks.

[23] try and live while we're going live with some new shit but i want i want people on youtube is it audio but no video i don't know why i'll figure that out ladies gentlemen if you are just staring at a blank screen would you have to shut this show down to get the video back up it should work but all right just do a double camera a two shot so you get it's going to be okay now is it live now tech motherfucking it would suck it would suck if like we did like a half an hour it turns out none of it Got picked up, or we did a whole show.

[24] I'm recording.

[25] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[26] It's going on YouTube right now for sure.

[27] It just, they don't see us right now.

[28] He's trying to fix that.

[29] Ted motherfucking dollygie.

[30] We were having problems with our old tricaster crashing a lot, so we got a new tricaster.

[31] But it turns out that, what is it that doesn't match up?

[32] What part is wrong?

[33] The control panel?

[34] There goes.

[35] Okay.

[36] So we're live.

[37] Hey, everybody.

[38] Oh, shit.

[39] Oh, shit.

[40] What were we just talking about?

[41] We're talking about material.

[42] Headphones.

[43] Headphones.

[44] Oh, listening to yourself in the headphones.

[45] What I think of is, though, it makes me, like, I close out the outside world totally, and I just lock in on the conversation.

[46] It's so often.

[47] Yeah.

[48] But if he puts up a video, it would be nice to hear it.

[49] Then you put your headphones on.

[50] Right, then you have to put the headphones on.

[51] Yeah.

[52] I just feel like when that's on, it's just like I pay more attention to not talking over people to.

[53] I can't stand the sound of my voice.

[54] So hearing it in my...

[55] Thank you, thank you, but I can't stand the sound of it.

[56] And I hear it enough.

[57] I don't need it blasting in my ears as I talk, then I focus on it, and then I get depressed.

[58] It's a good quality to hate your own voice.

[59] Dude.

[60] Because if you love your own voice, you would listen to it all the time.

[61] You know how hard it is to listen to my stand -up?

[62] That's very hard.

[63] For everybody.

[64] It's death.

[65] It kills me. But I always hear your voice.

[66] You got to listen to your shit.

[67] You got to go back and edit.

[68] You got to edit your shit.

[69] And I'm like, I don't want to listen to my.

[70] I just, I want to put every, every time I go up on stage behind me. I don't want to go back, but I know that's not the right thing to do.

[71] You get a, you take a lot of time out of the development of a joke process if you just listen to the previous versions of it.

[72] Yeah.

[73] Because like I have this new bit that I'm doing right now.

[74] And I have like three different versions of it.

[75] And it's not, right now it's very shaky.

[76] It's very shaky.

[77] It goes one way, it goes the other way.

[78] Sometimes it gets big laugh.

[79] Sometimes it's just clunky.

[80] And I've got to figure out which one's the right formula.

[81] So the only way to do that really is to listen to how I did it right and then play it back and then write it out.

[82] I'll listen to how I said it and then I'll write it out.

[83] And then I'll think about what I would be thinking if I was sitting there listening to this or someone was saying this.

[84] You know, would I anticipate what they're saying, what the punchlines are going to be beforehand?

[85] Because if you do, that takes a lot out of it.

[86] You know, it's got to find a way to sneak it in.

[87] You've got to find a way to make it where it really relates.

[88] you ever have an old bit that you like an old one from like 10 15 years ago that you think like damn I should have added that you know you're adding shit to it today oh yeah man if you kept going that's like the argument like Ari had a good point about that he was like if you just keep adding to your bits and making them better and that's why you don't want to release a special you could have used that same creativity to come up with new bits instead of doing the same old bits for 10 years You could have used that, you know, because there's some guys that think that.

[89] Like if you got those old, old, old bits, they're samurai swords, man. They've just been hammered down and polished the titan.

[90] There's certain bits they have this rhythm to them.

[91] You're like, Jesus Christ.

[92] Like, I remember I did a special once, and I didn't have like hardly any new material.

[93] And so this is like 2009 -ish or something like that.

[94] So I did some of my old, old shit from like, yeah.

[95] 1999.

[96] Tiger bit.

[97] No, no, no. It was some other stuff.

[98] I didn't do that bit.

[99] When I retired that bit.

[100] You got to bring that.

[101] You could always bring that back.

[102] You could always bring that back.

[103] It's over.

[104] But I remember thinking, damn, these are these 10 -year -old bits that I had for like literally 10 years before I did my first recording.

[105] I started in 88 and I recorded in like 99.

[106] So almost 11 years before I actually recording anything.

[107] They were so tight because I'd been, I'd never done him on anything.

[108] So I could do them all the time.

[109] I do them on the road.

[110] It's like Jiu -Jitsu.

[111] Yep.

[112] Yep.

[113] You learn that path.

[114] Yeah, your goat's shoes.

[115] You got like a fucking ninja.

[116] It's unconscious.

[117] Yeah.

[118] Yeah.

[119] I love your description of it.

[120] You were talked about tying your shoes.

[121] Like, you know how you tie your shoes?

[122] You don't think this loop's going in here and this is going here and then I'm going here.

[123] You just do like that.

[124] You wouldn't even be able to, you couldn't even teach it to someone over the phone.

[125] I couldn't explain.

[126] Teach me over the morning and be like, I got to do it a few times first and figure out what the hell I'm doing because I don't even know what I'm doing.

[127] I have no idea what I'm doing when I tie my shoes and I do it every day.

[128] Yeah.

[129] My son, when he learned to tie his shoes like maybe six months ago, it was he never wanted to.

[130] He's like, he wants to do everything.

[131] He wants to decide where we eat every day, but he doesn't want to tie his own shoelaces.

[132] So we finally made him, you know, and he was struggling with it.

[133] And I use that as an opportunity to show him how you can master any, Anything that you're having trouble with.

[134] Go look, right now, you're having trouble with it.

[135] You could do it, he could do it.

[136] But he struggles.

[137] So one day you're gonna do it like Daddy.

[138] Look how Daddy does it.

[139] I'm not even looking at my shoes.

[140] Look.

[141] And I do it and go, boom, and he's like, I go, look at that.

[142] Isn't that crazy?

[143] Isn't that crazy?

[144] I'll do it again.

[145] Look, my other shoe.

[146] And I do it and he's like, whoa, how did you do that, Daddy?

[147] That's like magic.

[148] And I go, I go, you can do it too.

[149] Watch, one day, you're gonna do it and you're not even gonna look.

[150] So like the next, Next day, he's trying not to look.

[151] He's like, Daddy, I'm not looking.

[152] Look, footies.

[153] And he's like, he's struggling, but now he's got it.

[154] So now I could use that, that whole story that he won't forget.

[155] And go, remember when you had trouble tying your shoes and remember how good you get?

[156] Look how you are now.

[157] This is the same thing.

[158] Whether it's gymnastics or breakdancing or jiu -jitsu or karate, whatever we do.

[159] It's the same exact thing.

[160] Your body is magic.

[161] You just got to tell it.

[162] a thousand times and then it finally listens and it'll do it itself i thought about that today not today but like now like if someone if i had to learn today how to do like a 360 roundhouse kick yeah at 50 years old i'd be like what what am i going to do yeah hold on uh i'm like what are you doing but when i do it it just like whoosh it's just something i've done my whole life yeah you know it's like a dance and your bits like you were talking about like like bits that you've been And like your Noah's arc bit was so goddamn tight because we were on the, you know, back, back in the day, we were on the, you know, if you went on the road, I hung out with you.

[163] I went on the road.

[164] And, you know, if you weren't on the road, we were at the comedy store.

[165] Every weekend, you weren't on the road.

[166] So I saw your act over and over and over to the point where I wasn't listening to the jokes no more.

[167] I was listening to the audience reaction.

[168] That was what was entertaining.

[169] I got to sit through another hour of your shit.

[170] So for me, I started being entertained by the audience, like which jokes worked.

[171] And it's fascinating when, you know, there's women out there that go out there and they had to drag their husband out.

[172] He didn't want to go out.

[173] He wanted to stanch because you never take me out.

[174] And she dragged him out.

[175] He spent a lot of money.

[176] They're buying money.

[177] They're buying drinks.

[178] She wants to make sure that they have a great time.

[179] So there's always like 10 of those wives that drag their husbands out and they just want to laugh.

[180] So they're laughing at stuff that isn't the punchline.

[181] And there were so many things that you would say that just the way you said them, it wasn't the joke at all.

[182] But they'd be like four chicks, four just laugh.

[183] And they're like ready to laugh.

[184] You know?

[185] Well, people that love stand -up comedy, you definitely can get into like certain rhythms.

[186] But then you can, it's like everything else, right?

[187] Like you like one level of comedy, like one kind of comedy, but then you see a bunch of comedians, and then the original stuff that you liked, you'd think sucks.

[188] Oh, yeah.

[189] I used to think Comic View was the funniest shit.

[190] I was obsessed with comedy.

[191] My whole life was all about music, but my two side things were fighting.

[192] I loved boxing ever since I was a kid.

[193] I was a huge, gigantic boxing fan.

[194] Then I got into the UFC.

[195] And then comedy.

[196] It was all I taped, all I taped at home on my VCR was comedy specials and Tuesday night fights any kind of boxing and it was just comedy and fights comedy and fights were my hobby and music was the goal that that was my life I taped come anytime comic view was on that's have which one's comic view it was all black is that BET yes yes is that the one that DL Hugley used to host yeah okay and you know you know live at the Apollo the deaf comedy jams oh yeah I was all the biggest fan of black comedy the biggest fan i mean you know right away you know and then you look back at like some of those those stand -ups after hanging out with you though and i started going oh shit okay that's low level a lot of those guys are low level well it's just there's there's premises that just get you know there's there's guys like out there like bill burr or you know dave chappelle or the real high -level guys that are seeing things and then they're commenting on things and they're pointing things out that maybe other people didn't notice.

[197] Then there's other people that are doing bits because they know other people have done bits on that subject successfully.

[198] So it's not totally stealing, but they're not really being creative.

[199] They're just like trying to recreate some.

[200] There's a few guys that do that.

[201] Like you hear them and you go, man, you know that Bill Hicks did a bit about that.

[202] Like you know that this guy did a bit about that.

[203] Like I see what you're doing.

[204] Like you're trying to like read like you don't have your own.

[205] original point a lot of those shows were like that they were just trying to make it because it was the comedy boom man what you're talking about was like there was a comedy tv boom that included evening at the improv MTV half hour comedy hour spotlight live on VH1 some Friday night thing they had on Fox that used to be at the laugh factory they used to have a weekly show yeah it was crazy there was so much comedy man it was out of control but there was a lot of guys that that just didn't belong in the business yet.

[206] I mean, I couldn't say that they couldn't eventually have broke.

[207] But they were basically like, did you ever know?

[208] Hey, like, there's a lot of those fucking guys where they were like, hey, and there's a goddamn wild kingdom playing out my living room.

[209] Like, they had this, like, comedy rhythm that they would do.

[210] But they didn't have shit to say, but it still worked.

[211] A lot of those guys were doing comedy to get a sitcom.

[212] They didn't really want to do comedy.

[213] Exactly.

[214] Exactly.

[215] Exactly.

[216] Exactly.

[217] They thought it'd be easier if they did it that way.

[218] Well, there was a lot of actors that I talked to about it.

[219] They're like, hey, man, for me, it's real hard to get auditions.

[220] And he goes in for the longest time, I'd sit around and watch you guys get development deals.

[221] And I'd be like, fuck that.

[222] These guys don't even act.

[223] And then I realized, like, why am I complaining?

[224] Why don't I just do what they do?

[225] How hard could it be?

[226] Yeah.

[227] It's hard.

[228] It looks easy.

[229] It looks so easy.

[230] Sam Tripoli did a special last week at the Viper Room in Hollywood.

[231] Man, we've known Sam forever.

[232] I don't know.

[233] I've known him for 15 years or something like that, maybe longer.

[234] God damn, damn.

[235] Sam, special.

[236] It was his first special.

[237] You know, it took him, you know, 10 years to get his shit together.

[238] But holy fuck, that hour slammed.

[239] Beautiful.

[240] He crushes.

[241] He did it to Viper Room, too.

[242] He crushes.

[243] That's a great place to film a special.

[244] Yeah, man. It was, I stayed for both shows.

[245] He did, you know, when you film, you do two, like, you know, just in case something goes wrong.

[246] Yeah.

[247] And he would do some stuff to it.

[248] It was weird.

[249] I've never seen a comic before.

[250] Fuck up a bit and go, wait a minute, let's do that one again.

[251] And then start again.

[252] He did it like three times.

[253] He just wanted to make sure it was perfect.

[254] You know what I mean?

[255] Because the response was so great that he was just on stage.

[256] He couldn't even believe it.

[257] He couldn't.

[258] Everybody was dying.

[259] Ian Edwards was there.

[260] Yeah, it was, it's really good to see him blossom.

[261] I think that, you know, based on the Netflix specials that I see on average three minutes at a time, There's a lot of bad ones, huh?

[262] Dude, they're just putting out comedy specials left and random dudes you never heard of.

[263] And a lot of, a lot of super vanilla Netflix comedy specials, vanilla.

[264] Like, they're not going deep, deep.

[265] There's a little bit of that going on, and there's also, I think people need to film more shows.

[266] I think they're just filming one show sometimes, sometimes two.

[267] I really think if you can afford it, you should do four.

[268] Ricky Gervais His new one I was never a giant fan of his Never really paid attention to him Like Ricky Jervas Didn't he do like cartoons or something like that His new special on Netflix That one is a grand slam He's fucking good Yes Oh yeah That's awesome Do you see Chappelle's?

[269] Oh yeah How about the one in the belly room Crazy How about I mean I was there for that one Do you remember how we ended that shit Basically telling People exactly Why he went to Africa that's pretty crazy that took balls yeah that's dangerous shit oh he's rich as fuck I mean cat Willie his late special is pretty good too I didn't like that one as much man I didn't like it as much as I liked his other one he spent like the first 20 minutes on Jacksonville because that's where he filmed it and I thought you know okay I see what he's doing but he had some I thought he had some pretty good stuff considering that you know all the crazy stuff he went through I thought maybe he'll never be back and he's just going to be like insane or whatever But he did come back And he is I'm a big fan of this Yeah, Cat Williams old stuff But his old stuff is some of the best Oh my God The Pimp Chronicles Oh my God Come on Yes, Cat Williams Cat Williams was One of the guys that if I'm just I don't have shit to listen to in my car I just put YouTube and just Cat Williams just some random bit If I don't have anything to go He's like he's a go -to Yeah he's a go -to for sure It's a good time man Good time for comedy man Now the comedy store is unfucking believable It's nothing like We used to hang out there every day in the early 2000, 2000, 2001, before 10th planet was even a thought.

[270] Yeah.

[271] My life consisted of D -JN at strip clubs for money, at home, trying to make it, you know, in music, and hanging out with you doing comedy, you know.

[272] It's crazy.

[273] It's crazy when you think about that place was always half empty.

[274] Yes, it was like a dime dinosaur.

[275] It was ready to go.

[276] That shit was ready to go.

[277] And then when you had that, man, see a shit.

[278] left man the place was it was like how is it surviving like right there on sunset it's such prime at the prime spot you could put a giant hotel there how is that place not going to get knocked down and then when you came back i remember asking you a couple times in that that seven year absence or whatever it was going to do you ever going to go back to the comedy store because i i wanted you did to go back and you were like fuck that i ain't going back you were like really like you know you felt like you got really screwed by them and you did those motherfuckers turned their back on you at the common store and took that dude's side and then looking back they know they made a big mistake so you were like you're standing your goddamn ground like fuck that i'll go to the ice house i'll go to improv fuck the comedy store and then you came back man and it's in it's like uh a different um world literally a different world like it's fucking booming it's selling out every god damn night both rooms are packed it's like uh it's like it's unbelievable it's crazy like you couldn't Nobody would believe that shit.

[279] It's so alive at the comedy store.

[280] People just go there, like, during the week, like, it's a big event.

[281] Tuesday nights, Tuesday nights, sometimes they have two sold -out shows, main room and the original room.

[282] You know, the comedy chaos Tuesday nights?

[283] What the fuck.

[284] Yeah, it's never been like that before.

[285] No, it's bar.

[286] They opened up all those old decrepit rooms, like, and made a bar.

[287] Like, they're opening up, everything's, there's all these.

[288] That back bar, that used to be a video room.

[289] That back bar is the best.

[290] You can get away from people and chill out back there.

[291] Yeah.

[292] That shit wasn't around back in the 2000.

[293] They had that whole smoking.

[294] corridor in the back now too yeah everybody goes out back to and outside the outside bar it's booming there's always people there drinking it's crazy it's weird right the front bar is always mobbed yeah and then across street house the blues they knock that shit down like what dude when you walk outside and you go up that ramp you know where that ramp is in the parking lot next door that view is insane yeah the view is incredible like they have the best view in the world Comedy stores like It's like Guns and Roses, man Big in the fucking 80s Disappeared For 20 fucking year, 25 years And now Guns and Roses Not only made a comeback But they're bigger than ever Yeah They're bigger than ever Guns and Roses is unbelievable Everywhere they play They're just selling it out And it's in I saw them in Mexico City And got completely blown away You saw them in Mexico City Were there for seminar?

[295] I was there for For Tony's fight.

[296] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[297] That brings us the Tony.

[298] Wow, that's crazy.

[299] You saw, yeah, that brings us to Tony.

[300] Oh, it was incredible.

[301] And I was never a giant Guns and Roses fan.

[302] I respected them.

[303] I liked their songs and shit.

[304] But, you know, as a kid, once one of your friends claims them as their favorite, now they can't be your favorite.

[305] So it's like some stupid shit.

[306] It's some stupid shit.

[307] Like my friend Matt, he claimed Guns and Roses.

[308] I'm like, okay.

[309] Because we wouldn't, if he bought a Guns and Roses record, I would just tape it.

[310] I wouldn't buy it too.

[311] So whoever actually owned the master, you know what I mean?

[312] That was their band.

[313] You know what I mean?

[314] Fuck you.

[315] That's my band.

[316] It's like a sport.

[317] It really is.

[318] Yeah.

[319] But you have a bunch of teams at yours.

[320] My band was Kiss.

[321] Because even when everyone made fun of them, I'm the only one who admitted they still liked them for a while.

[322] Did you get like that with boxers too?

[323] No, with boxing was different.

[324] Boxing is all racist.

[325] It's completely racist and it's okay.

[326] It's racist?

[327] It's the only sport?

[328] It's the only sport that you could be racist.

[329] My guy was a black guy.

[330] Well, not everyone.

[331] My biggest bummer was Donald Curry getting knocked out by Mike McCallum.

[332] If Mike Tyson fought, when Mike Tyson fought Jerry Cooney, every white guy was praying for.

[333] Larry Holmes.

[334] Oh, whatever.

[335] Yeah, yeah.

[336] That's right.

[337] What white guy didn't?

[338] Mike Tyson ever fought?

[339] A bunch of white guys.

[340] But not anybody famous.

[341] No, not really.

[342] Anybody?

[343] buddy well uh galada who was who is who is joe galada that's right that's right but does he count white yeah he's from poland he's pretty white sometimes european whites yeah we don't think of them as american whites they're different they're animals they grew up american whites yeah yeah we definitely yeah yeah we want like russians will always going to go for the russian guy yeah so boxing is the only one like i didn't give a fuck who the mexican was fighting i'm going for the mexican even if I didn't know the Mexican, I already had love for him.

[344] If he wasn't Mexican and he was Panamanian, that's good enough.

[345] Right.

[346] If he was Argentinian, you know, Juan Roldan, remember him?

[347] Right.

[348] I remember him?

[349] I was like, that guy's, if he's fighting a Mexican, I'm going for the Mexican.

[350] But if he's fighting a white guy or a black guy, I'm always going for the Latin guy.

[351] That was the only sport where you could be totally racist.

[352] My best friend was black growing up and we both watched boxing together.

[353] And he always went for the black guy.

[354] I always went for the black guy.

[355] And it was like, it was okay.

[356] There was no wrong with that.

[357] There was another Argentinian champion that was champion before Marvin Hagler.

[358] God damn it, it's at the tip of my tongue.

[359] I cannot remember his name.

[360] I was into Pepino Cuivas, Alexis Argueo.

[361] As long as they were Latin, they were Mexican to me. He was right before Marvin Hagler.

[362] God damn it.

[363] I see him.

[364] I see his curly hair.

[365] who's a handsome -looking fellow Carlos Monzon Thank God I got it I was ready to scare Jamie's going to pull it up Jamie's going to pull it up Jamie's going to pull it up before I can remember Monzon was a bad motherfucker wasn't he from Argentina he was beautiful yeah he was a tough guy man those were the blood and guts days of boxing you know Roberto Duran Ken Buchanan at lightweight 135 pound killers there was a different world back then man those guys were tough as shit 15 round fights.

[366] Comedy's different though.

[367] I always I was always there.

[368] There was a point where I thought generally overall just black people are way funnier than white people based on stand -up comedy I'm like Richard Pryor Eddie Murphy you know I really believe that and like Mexican comedians I wasn't like rooting for Paul Rodriguez I was like fuck you I was I didn't I didn't yeah I know some people do but I didn't I was I was a racist against white comedians Fuckman see him more than anything when people found I wasn't really Mexican they were like what he's Hondurian right Honduran and German or something yeah like did he ever claim Mexican on stage yes yes yes wow yeah he was like uh he was like an andrew dice clay I think he was kind of raised by Mexican people though he should he should have said that he said listen this is all this is like it's my character I can't change your name I'm Carlos Macya you can only change your name yeah but you that's First of all, that's like a character name.

[369] But I'm saying like, you change your ethnicity.

[370] Maybe Carl Smith -Sy.

[371] Like, if I decided to put tape on my eyes and change my name to Joe Chan, people would be like, Right?

[372] You can't do that.

[373] Yeah.

[374] But if you try to claim, if I try to claim German, right?

[375] Just out of nowhere.

[376] Like, you don't know any better.

[377] You never see my 23 in me. Or maybe you did like a Borok character where you're, can you do a German accent, not Arnold Schwarzenegger?

[378] That's Austrian.

[379] Oh, okay.

[380] Yeah.

[381] No, I don't think I could probably do one if I listen to this.

[382] German.

[383] But Arnold's so easy.

[384] It's so like I can only do sir.

[385] I can't do Trump, man. You can't do Trump?

[386] No, I can't do it at all.

[387] My voice doesn't make those sounds.

[388] Like I'm not a good impressionist.

[389] I'm just good at the ones that I can do.

[390] What does Arnold think of Trump?

[391] Basically, we've had this conversation before.

[392] It's not a bad guy.

[393] He's just a guy.

[394] Oh, that's right.

[395] We already did this.

[396] He's, listen, he's doing what everybody wants.

[397] He's making billions.

[398] He's fucking porn stars.

[399] And you're mad at him?

[400] This is the fucking American gene Who looks like For real though Who looks like him And fucks like he does I'm a little bit more impressed With Donald after all these scandals It backfired You guys are trying to go Clinton on this guy He's not trying to fuck kids So that's, hey You know Here's the thing about like Roseanne Barr They were saying that Roseanne Barr Was Was talking about Some conspiracy theories That have been disproven This is what's something Because she was talking about Trump breaking up child sex rings.

[401] But he really did spend a lot of time concentrating on that and having people go out and try to break up these sex rings and sex trafficking.

[402] This is not something that is a conspiracy theory.

[403] This is something that he's discussed many times.

[404] It's also not a conspiracy that they're sex trafficking.

[405] So as much as you want to discount Trump, here's a problem that I have with people that are on the left right now.

[406] They're not looking at everything.

[407] They're only looking at what they want to look at.

[408] He's bad for the environment.

[409] He's always lying.

[410] He cheats on his wife.

[411] He does this.

[412] He does that.

[413] They say all these things he does bad.

[414] But when something comes up like Roseanne says, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because he's going after sex trafficking.

[415] And then it turns out all these other people say, that's a conspiracy theory.

[416] That's a bullshit online.

[417] No, he's said it.

[418] He's put effort into it.

[419] Like you've got to give the guy credit.

[420] Because if you don't give him credit for things that he does that are important, nobody's going to listen to you when you're criticizing them either, because all you're trying to do is win.

[421] You're not trying to look at the thing for what it really is.

[422] Yeah, this guy ain't a, he's not a perfect person, but he did make note on many times about wanting to break up sex trafficking rings.

[423] Do you know that your kid is 20 ,000 times more likely to get kidnapped than to get shot her to school?

[424] Do that make sense?

[425] Yeah.

[426] And 20 ,000 is conservative.

[427] It's probably really like 70 ,000 because if you go by the numbers 800 ,000 to a million kids go missing every year in the United States.

[428] I looked that up though.

[429] I never found a source for that.

[430] You said that before and I looked that up and I couldn't find that.

[431] It wasn't nearly as much.

[432] You know what?

[433] I read it online so it could be wrong.

[434] It could be wrong.

[435] It's a problem with these things like when we say them, especially we say them like right now two million people are going to listen this or whatever the fucking is.

[436] Even if it's 100 ,000 kids.

[437] Even if it's 100 kids.

[438] Yeah, 100 kids.

[439] That's more than school.

[440] shootings.

[441] That's my point.

[442] It's more than school shootings.

[443] Right.

[444] Like, what would you rather have?

[445] You know, what's worse?

[446] I don't know what's worse.

[447] Having your kid get shot at school.

[448] Is it any right?

[449] Look at this.

[450] According to the National Center for Missing Exploited Children, citing U .S. Department of Justice Report, nearly 800 ,000 children are reported missing each year.

[451] That's more than 2 ,000 a day.

[452] The NCMEC says 203 ,000 children are kidnapped each year by family members.

[453] Oh, family members.

[454] Well, okay, now take away, that's a little different.

[455] That leaves 600 ,000.

[456] Yeah.

[457] That is $600 ,000.

[458] So what's worse?

[459] That's crazy.

[460] Having your kid, because the conspiracy theory is that there's this giant international child sex trafficking network going on that is being covered up.

[461] That's what's going on.

[462] And if you look at Jimmy Saville in the U .K., that brought a lot of light to what's going.

[463] Seville, right?

[464] Is that how he's his name?

[465] Saville.

[466] Saville?

[467] Yeah, Jimmy Saville.

[468] That was a terrifying story.

[469] So the story with him is Jimmy Saville, he's dead now.

[470] He died in his 80s.

[471] He was a super famous, like Dick Clark kind of guy.

[472] He was the host of Pop Top of the Pops.

[473] If your band got on that show, you're going to be mega.

[474] He was huge.

[475] He was friends with the royal family with the prime ministers, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair.

[476] Pull up a picture of him, Jamie.

[477] He looks disgusting.

[478] Pull up Jimmy Saville.

[479] He looks like a child molester.

[480] Look at this guy.

[481] Look at this guy.

[482] Imagine getting fucked by that guy?

[483] this out but he was when you're 12 super famous and you know what he would do he would raise money for hospitals and specifically psychiatric hospitals and he would bring the queen of england and he had all this power to raise millions for these hospitals these mental institutions he that's what he prayed for kids so he would what he would do is he would do so much for these hospitals that he would put himself on the board and give himself a job there in a position and he would hang out at these hospitals there's all there's at least five there's at least 500 people that have come forward to say they've been were raped by him when they're at a 500 people at least it's in the thousand what does that sign say that he's holding up on his neck what does that say oh that was his show yeah he worked he worked you know he worked for the bbc super famous super he would he had Christmas dinner with Margaret Thatcher multiple times.

[484] What is that red hat he's got that looks like a MAGA hat right above that?

[485] Yeah.

[486] Just a hat.

[487] Crazy guy who, it turns out, he was a child rapist.

[488] Yeah, and that's the same thing with Sandusky.

[489] And they're covering it up.

[490] They're covering it up.

[491] The question is, still?

[492] They're coming this up.

[493] Oh, dude.

[494] Yes.

[495] Because people knew they're complicit and they'd be in trouble.

[496] The mystery.

[497] The mystery is, how is he so tight?

[498] with the prime ministers, the royal family, all these politicians, all this shit comes out when he died.

[499] Because every time there would be an allegation while he was alive, he would just sit them down and go, what are you going to do?

[500] I'm going to ruin your life.

[501] You better drop this shit.

[502] Do you think they're going to come after me?

[503] You know, how many millions I've given this hospital?

[504] So he would just shut everything down.

[505] And there was all these underground covered up allegations.

[506] He admitted getting knighthood was a relief because it got me off the hook.

[507] What does that mean?

[508] Got me off the hook.

[509] It was knighted.

[510] Right.

[511] So it got him off the hook.

[512] What crazy is that?

[513] He got knighted.

[514] When you get knighted, could they not arrest you anymore?

[515] Is that what happens?

[516] Is it like being the president?

[517] Yeah.

[518] There's a documentary on YouTube called the ninth circle.

[519] Jimmy Saville, the ninth circle.

[520] You find out why they covered it up.

[521] Why did they cover it up?

[522] This agent DJ, it's like Dick Clark, they should have just mashed him up.

[523] Why was it all being covered up?

[524] It's fucking insane when you find out why.

[525] He had enthusiasm for dead bodies.

[526] in general that he fucks dead people what he loved fucking dead people where'd you hear this it's you then the ninth circle the ninth circle on Jesus Christ you to watch that Jesus Christ it's insane it's insane when you find out when you watch that shit dude it is crazy that you're saying this and it sounds like like they could never be possible it sounds like it never could be possible it sounds like it possible that some giant television star that worked with children and it was always helping out children could have actually been fucking them the whole time and a bunch of them hundreds of raping them and then people must have known there's no way everybody he was killing him he was killing he was killing them dude they got they found all these bodies it's a what it's a big scandal in the UK right now look up bodies dude Jesus Christ there's an island called Jersey Island that's owned by the queen and look into that shit.

[527] I don't even want to get that.

[528] I don't even want to get that deep into it because I don't have raped children as young as nine while working at BBC leaked report unveils and this is in the independent.

[529] Yeah.

[530] How come we're not, how come there's not the same kind of effort for this kind of stuff like there is with the, um, the gun shooting, the Florida school shooting.

[531] Why isn't there that?

[532] Because that's not a big event where it's one thing where all the deaths happen in one group.

[533] It's deaths or deaths, Well, I understand.

[534] I'm with you.

[535] I understand.

[536] But, I mean, this is also why people don't freak out about 500 ,000 people dying every year because of obesity.

[537] Like, what's worse?

[538] What's worse?

[539] Having your kid get shot at a school shooting or having that motherfucker rape your daughter and multiple times and then kill her.

[540] I don't think you want to quantify them.

[541] They're both horrible.

[542] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[543] They're both horrible.

[544] It's just, what's scary is that that is being protected.

[545] Yes.

[546] But there's someone that either knew about it and now was trying to cover their ass because they knew about it.

[547] A lot of people.

[548] That's the thing about Sandusky.

[549] You know, Sangusky did the same thing.

[550] He was raping all these kids.

[551] And the whole time, he was running these programs for underprivileged children and helping all these orphaned kids.

[552] You got to hang out your kids, man. He allegedly got away with abusing 500 children and sex with dead bodies.

[553] Whoa.

[554] Hanging out with the queen, dude.

[555] This guy's tight with the queen.

[556] Look at him, too.

[557] God.

[558] And all these little kids around them?

[559] You know what?

[560] I'm going to tell you why he got, why they left him alone?

[561] You do you know?

[562] According to the ninth circle.

[563] What is the ninth circle?

[564] It's a documentary about the whole thing.

[565] Why they live alone?

[566] Because everybody's doing it?

[567] They're all doing it?

[568] He was supplying everybody with kids.

[569] That's what he used the hospitals for.

[570] Well, this is not a new theory.

[571] This is not a new theory when it comes to like groups of freaks.

[572] He was the pimp, dude.

[573] Yeah.

[574] He was supplying.

[575] everybody with kids this is this is something that people have talked about like very intelligent people that I know that have talked about in in terms of like uh there's been stories about people that have taken politicians to like islands and shit because that's where they keep like young girls you know I don't know why I'm looking at you Jamie dude and you know what but this but someone talked to me about this and they were saying you have to understand that if you are in a group of incredibly wealthy people and you have extreme, a desire for extreme sexual scenarios, whips and, and you can't, whatever the fuck it is, you can't, young girls, you can't let anybody know about this.

[576] So people come into these people's lives that can facilitate these things and then they develop this sort of bond of silence.

[577] And this is how, when this shit gets out of hand, you can get a Jimmy Saville or you can get a Jerry Sandusky.

[578] That's the other thing about Sandusky.

[579] There was like, this is not, This guy was not on his own.

[580] Like he was supplying children.

[581] Wasn't that one of the things?

[582] That doesn't come up.

[583] Sandusky, Google Sandusky was supplying children to other pedophiles.

[584] Because that was something that was also speculated about some of the donors that were donors to his charities were also somehow involved in molesting those kids.

[585] You know what a death ride is?

[586] Death ride?

[587] Death ride.

[588] No. Jimmy Saville would supply 10, 15 boys.

[589] to a certain politician.

[590] He'd have a boat.

[591] He'd take him out on the boat.

[592] He couldn't afford to have any witnesses.

[593] So those were always the last rides those kids would take.

[594] They're called death rides.

[595] Jesus.

[596] They couldn't have witnesses.

[597] This is from that same documentary?

[598] Ninth circle.

[599] See, but how do they know that for a fact?

[600] You just got to watch it and make the conclusion.

[601] Well, I'm not ruling.

[602] He's already a shitback, so you've got to look at him like a prosecuting attorney, not a defense lawyer.

[603] He's already a shitbag.

[604] He's already confirmed.

[605] He's already raping kids.

[606] What's the stop up from killing kids?

[607] Exactly.

[608] Exactly.

[609] Yeah, I mean, that's a good point because if you're the type of person that could rape a child, what can't you do?

[610] Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.

[611] Right.

[612] In the U .K., the numbers could be wrong, but I heard that every three seconds a child is reported missing in the U .K. That's 175 ,000 kids a year get reported missing in just the U .K. It's a big, business, man. It's got to be more than that amount of seconds in a year, isn't there?

[613] Every three seconds at 175 ,000?

[614] That seems low.

[615] Every three minutes, I'm sorry.

[616] Oh, every three, seconds, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[617] I'm sorry.

[618] Big difference.

[619] That's crazy.

[620] How many seconds are in a day?

[621] Every three minutes.

[622] Every three minutes, this is according to something I saw.

[623] 31 million seconds in a day?

[624] Yeah.

[625] I'm sure the numbers are probably hot.

[626] 175 ,000 isn't as big as 800 ,000.

[627] thousand a year but damn that's that should be think about all this all what we're doing for the florida shooting and for these shootings and with that david hog guy come on man that that that's what scary is that people are buying all that stuff buying all what stuff the whole gun control propaganda you know it's so obvious it's it's it's ridiculous it's ridiculous what do you think the gun control propaganda is it's really simple man it's like they've been trying you you have to disarm the population and that's what they're doing inch by inch trying to disarm them they used to say they used to say oh no we just want some restrictions and some background checks now they're just saying it you know they some people are saying revoke the second amendment yeah they're tearing the constitution they're tearing the constitution those four kids those four kids there's a constitution no no no they weren't they weren't that's not true no that's photoshop no it is okay there's original image that that girl was tearing it was like a target she was saying we're not a target.

[628] And someone replaced that image with the Constitution.

[629] Okay.

[630] But they're essentially doing the same thing.

[631] Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

[632] Look, first of all, they're 17.

[633] They were at a school that got shot up.

[634] Their friends died.

[635] I get it from their point of view.

[636] If I was 17, I would think, and also they got cameras in their face, and everybody's paying attention to them, and the New York Times is interviewing on the Washington Post.

[637] Everyone's calling them up.

[638] If I was them, I'd probably be doing the same thing.

[639] You would probably too.

[640] If you were in high school with those kids and all that shit went down, I don't blame them by any stretch of the imagination.

[641] nation.

[642] I don't even blame people that are trying to revoke the second amendment.

[643] The thing that infuriates me the most is that all people want to look at is the guns.

[644] It's all they want to look at.

[645] You need to look at the mental health of individuals that are willing to fucking shoot up a group of kids.

[646] Like why?

[647] Why the fuck would someone do that?

[648] Psychiatric medications are a big one that if you bring up, people roll their eyes like, oh, this again.

[649] There are massive changes to the fucking chemical composition of your brain when you take these things, what you're capable of doing what bothers you, what freaks you out, what you don't give a shit about.

[650] When you've got all these people that are on SSRIs and anti -depressants and anti -anxiety medication and over and over again, when they test these shooters, they all test positive for something.

[651] The pharmaceutical companies do not want to fucking hear about this.

[652] They don't want to talk about this.

[653] Phil Hartman, my friend who got shot by his wife, she was on Zoloft.

[654] They got a settlement from Zoloft.

[655] The family got a settlement from Zoloft after she fucking shot him in the head while he was sleeping.

[656] There's a lot going on It's not just guns It is crazy that that fucked up kid could get guns It is crazy It's crazy that the FBI went to his house Two years before But what can you do Do you hear about that kid that they just stopped In the Chinese immigrant kid They're sending back His roommates in college were saying This fucking guy's stockpiling guns The cops went to visit him He went out and bought another gun And he's talking all kinds of crazy shit And everybody's nervous about him Like he's a fucking shooter Ready to happen Stop going to class and that's how they sent him back because he's on a student visa You can't not be in class.

[657] This kid was like gearing up.

[658] He was gearing up and maybe Maybe they caught it before it happened and maybe they wouldn't have like two years ago when they interviewed this The kid from Parkland.

[659] Now that kid the strangest thing about that Parkland shooting is the interview One of the teachers did on ABC.

[660] This doesn't make any sense to me at all and It's like, she said, I have the video.

[661] I could send it to you, it's less than a minute.

[662] She says, I opened up, I heard shots, opened up the door, all the kids ran in, they hid behind their desk, and there I saw the shooter 20 feet away from me. But at first, I thought he was a policeman.

[663] I'm like, what is the police doing here?

[664] He had full body armor, a mask on, a helmet on, and was shooting.

[665] I was like, what are the cops doing here?

[666] That is the strangest Video I've seen Was it possibly someone shooting at the kid?

[667] That's not what she said She said she saw the shooter Right, but I mean how long was she watching for Right?

[668] If you're like looking out the window You see someone that's shooting someone Or shooting a gun or even holding a gun First of all you have to realize that people In those traumatic situations Their memory is very fucked up It's very shaking Your brain's flooded with adrenaline You remember you're open a suggestion People can put things in your head and you all of a sudden think that that was a real memory that you saw.

[669] There's been like scientific studies on that and about suggestive memory and about someone can literally, especially during periods of great duress, they can introduce ideas into your head.

[670] And you will tell those ideas hours later, days later as your own.

[671] And you don't even realize that they put them in your head.

[672] It's real weird.

[673] Memory in traumatic situations like gun shootouts and shit like that is haywire because you're working on that.

[674] reptilian part of your brain.

[675] You're down to the lowest level.

[676] My friend Steve Ronella got attacked by a grizzly bear.

[677] He was in a Fognac Island.

[678] It's a crazy podcast.

[679] He and these other guys, they had killed an elk, and they were packing this elk out, and they left the elk by the tree while they were at their camp.

[680] Then they went to go back, and a bear had claimed the elk.

[681] And this bear rushed him, and he was like, one of the ways he described to me is like, you have an idea in your head of like an animal instinct is like.

[682] And he goes, I'm telling you this goes way deeper than that.

[683] This goes way, when you really think your life is in danger, you really think it's over, you don't even exist anymore.

[684] You're moving, you have no idea what you're doing.

[685] You have to piece together what happened afterwards, and you were barely there in the first place.

[686] You're just gone.

[687] You're gone.

[688] You see somebody outside.

[689] You have no fucking idea who you even are right there and then.

[690] All these people are like, I would have run in the building, kick that fucking guy's ass.

[691] You barely even know who you are.

[692] You got this video?

[693] Oh, I sent you the video, the video of that, yeah.

[694] People have to understand memory.

[695] Well, let's listen to her and let's see if she sounds like she's foolish.

[696] Okay, let's hear what she says.

[697] No, I actually sent you the actual clip.

[698] This is not it?

[699] Then I sent you one, right?

[700] On your phone.

[701] That's the lady, but I don't know when she's going to say unless she was.

[702] Oh, let's just play it because we don't hear it.

[703] We're not hearing it.

[704] Jamie.

[705] Okay.

[706] Writing love letters when the fire alarm went off.

[707] As students filed into the hallway she heard gunfire.

[708] There you go.

[709] This is it.

[710] The killing had begun.

[711] I was about two feet away from my door.

[712] All of a sudden I heard gunshots in the stairwell, which is about 20 feet away from my room.

[713] And then kids were screaming and then running back towards me and towards the end of the hallway.

[714] So I just went in this very strange autopilot mode, where I pivoted on my feet, I unlocked my door, and the kids just started pouring in my room.

[715] I don't know how many kids were in there, but I was pulling them and getting them in and shouting at them to get in the room.

[716] And then I suddenly saw the shooter, about 20 feet for me, standing at the end of the hallway, actively shooting down the hallway, just a barrage of bullets.

[717] And I'm staring at him thinking, why is the police here?

[718] This is strange, because he's in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, uh, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I've, never seen before.

[719] Huh.

[720] I don't know.

[721] That sounds like someone who saw something.

[722] Yeah.

[723] That sounds like she got a very good look at it.

[724] And yeah, there's another video of a girl saying, yeah, we heard shots and we're running through the hallway.

[725] And then I run into Nicholas Cruz.

[726] And I looked at him and I told him, like, isn't it weird that everyone thought this was going to be you?

[727] And then he just stood there and then we ran off because we heard more shots.

[728] What?

[729] That's, it doesn't make any sense.

[730] Doesn't make any sense.

[731] And that stuff, those videos get taken down.

[732] Those videos get taken down.

[733] But that video is not taken down.

[734] They've been taking them down.

[735] When they find them, they take, there's people actively taken down witness testimony that doesn't go with the official narrative, man. So you think that this is like a false flag?

[736] Like someone went in there, shot up the school.

[737] They do it all the time.

[738] That's what they do.

[739] And then they focus on it.

[740] They got a, they had this Nicholas Cruz guy and they go, oh, we got a perfect guy.

[741] So they come in, they have a professional team.

[742] They drag a Nicholas Cruz.

[743] They do what they got to do.

[744] They throw them in there, arrest them and go, we got them.

[745] And then everyone buys it.

[746] That's what's going on.

[747] In my opinion.

[748] But this is a crazy opinion, right?

[749] Because you weren't there.

[750] I'm not the only one side of the country.

[751] I'm sure.

[752] But every time there's any sort of mass event, some horrible event, there's always conspiracies.

[753] You know?

[754] Because most these, they're like they have a, what was going on right before this was the release of the FISA document.

[755] And conspiracy, you know, and the media was bearing that.

[756] The FISA document was a document that Trump released and got zero, zero play from mainstream media.

[757] And it was a document that showed that a lot of really important people in government from all the agencies were all colluding together to take down Trump.

[758] And there's text messages and emails that go.

[759] back and forth.

[760] They all worked together with Hollywood, using Hollywood.

[761] So there's just, so FISA document was about to get dropped and everyone was saying, wait, they're backed into a corner, they're going to pull something off.

[762] Watch, here it comes.

[763] They're going to pull out, there's going to be a shooting or something.

[764] Wait for it.

[765] Here it comes.

[766] And then boom.

[767] So as soon as it happened, the reason why conspiracy theorists were going, that's it.

[768] And look at all the mistakes.

[769] Look at all the testimony that doesn't make any sense that they're ignoring like that.

[770] The thing that gets me is there's so many fuck -ups in that shooting as a false flag word, like all these witness testimony that doesn't make any sense, that to me, I think they did it on purpose to keep all the conspiracy theories busy because there's so much shit that's clear to keep everyone away.

[771] That doesn't make any sense.

[772] To keep everybody away from the FISA document.

[773] But you know what?

[774] It's also possible.

[775] The people that were at that shooting, their memories all fucked up because there were somebody shooting people.

[776] that's a real thing like that's a hundred percent she sound like she didn't know what she was talking about didn't sound like it then but that wasn't when the shooting was going down yeah you got to see people when you see people like right when they've seen some shit their brain scrambled yeah that's something to have to take into consideration especially some nice lady probably never saw anybody get shot in their life probably never saw much violence yeah maybe maybe I don't know there's two sides of it there's right there's people that believe the official story and then there's people that see it as, oh, this was the false flag to distract from the FISA document.

[777] Listen, I'm not saying that false flags don't exist.

[778] I mean, you and I have discussed on this podcast in great detail, the most important false flag, which is Operation Northwoods.

[779] Yeah, if they're willing to do that, they're willing to do anything.

[780] Well, it's not, this is also the problem.

[781] When we say they, Operation Northwoods was 1962.

[782] The question is if that's how they did business back then, which is what they did, I mean, Operation Northwoods, they were planning on attacking Guantanamo Bay.

[783] With Cuban going to arm Cuban friendlies have them attack Guantanamo Bay.

[784] They were going to sacrifice American lives.

[785] They were going to blow up a drone jetliner, blame it on the Cubans.

[786] All this was to get us enthusiastic about going to war with Cuba.

[787] They were going to sacrifice American lives.

[788] This is 100%.

[789] They were going to lie and fake shit.

[790] Which is normal, which is normal for empires, for all countries.

[791] This is just a normal false flags are, it's been going on since the dawn of time.

[792] False flags, it's old school shit.

[793] The question is, and this is for the rational.

[794] person who's like this is ridiculous you have to wonder is that evolved right everything evolves the the the way we use technology evolves the way we use literature evolves the way we use tv evolved everything evolves does that evil corruption in government evolved too or does it just somehow know they get snuffed out because of the light that don't buy that i don't buy that if you look at all the different things that we've shown that there's collusion in just look at the fact that someone like Hillary Clinton can run for president while she was making hundreds of thousands of dollars giving speeches to banks.

[795] Like when she was in that debate with Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders was like, release his transcripts.

[796] Tell us what you said.

[797] Tell us what you said to those nice banker people that gave you a half a million dollars or whatever the fuck they gave you.

[798] Like that's insane.

[799] To think that someone was like, listen, dude, she is so fucking entertaining.

[800] We're going to give her $250 ,000 for an hour.

[801] It's worth it.

[802] Trust me, I know we're in the banking business and I know we make money with money you know i mean we're all about money we know the value of money we're in the banking business this lady talking is worth a quarter million dollars it's the best she's gonna go up there she's gonna knock your socks off she's so good she's amazing and she's funny she's hilarious oh my she's amazing her speech is super well prepared and she stands up there on the podium it just knocks your fucking dick into the dirt what is this Hillary Clinton gets humiliating 7 ,000 less than Snooki for a speech at Rutgers as her story grows old oh wow so she got she got her price slashed to $25 ,000 I think they're gonna throw her under the bus her standard fee was $200 ,000 per speech but some folks suggest that it may be her broken record that set the recent slash price of 25 ,000 she made so much money off the Clinton foundation she's fine just stop and think about that she's like I'll do it for a thousand dude I got fucking a hundred million from that Haiti earthquake are you getting me yeah but those people people like her I think one of the things in the back of their head is always the potential litigation I think they always want to stockpile legal funds because someone could always come after them yeah if you stop and think about the Clinton foundation they're like you know if you had a hundred million and now you have you know 75 million you're like oh my god yeah we got I got to take some odd jobs and shit do some speeches in Saudi Arabia listen it should be illegal for someone to run for president if someone who they could influence in a positive way with passing things and signing legislature, if, you know, pushing things forward, using their influence, if someone is in a position that they could do that for a company and that company wants them giving you $200 ,000 to talk, that's just fucking insane.

[803] That's insane.

[804] That's insane.

[805] That's, are you saying that it's worth $200 ,000?

[806] If she sucked every dick in the room, it wouldn't be worth $200 ,000, right?

[807] There's no way.

[808] Who's going to pay $1 ,000 for a Hillary Clinton bro job other than for the story?

[809] I think she can get a lot of money for blowjobs.

[810] Do you think so?

[811] Dude, I think fucking, like, alt -right guys would just be fucking throwing down, dude, busting, having bukakis, you know what I mean?

[812] You do a bucocci for, get this, I feel, this feels like a disrespectful turn we're taking with Hillary.

[813] Yeah, I'm sorry.

[814] As a person, forget about it as a woman, just as a politician.

[815] No one should be, it should just be impossible.

[816] There's a conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton's father, Hugh Rodham, I'm assuming he's not alive anymore But was a huge Jewish mob boss Who is responsible for Opium going into Chicago I don't know if that's real But it makes sense to me Look, we know for a fact That some politicians have run drugs before The Bushes?

[817] Here's the biggest one The fucking Kennedy's open Open flat out I mean it was moonshine at the time But guess what?

[818] That's drugs Yeah, same thing.

[819] That's as much of a drug as weed.

[820] Worse than weed.

[821] It's worse.

[822] Way worse.

[823] I mean, that is how the Kennedy family made their money.

[824] We needed a president to run marijuana.

[825] How cool with that?

[826] Tommy Chon for president.

[827] Jimmy Carter was like he was just doing, he just stuck to marijuana.

[828] Tommy Chon for president.

[829] Tommy's got diversity on his side.

[830] Cheech could be the running maiden.

[831] Cheech and Chong, 2020.

[832] Guys, get on it.

[833] I have you on the podcast.

[834] Support you 100%.

[835] If you think about all the stuff the government was willing to do over time, like like, you know, Operation Northwood, for instance.

[836] They were willing to kill their own people.

[837] You know, there's a lot of corruption, bribery, a lot of shit in the government, right?

[838] Right.

[839] Yeah, a lot of shit.

[840] If you had to equate that to one person, you could say the U .S. government is kind of like John Gotti.

[841] Right.

[842] Right.

[843] Kind of, right?

[844] Yeah, a little bit.

[845] A little bit.

[846] Like killed some people.

[847] Yeah, for sure.

[848] Kill zone people if they cross them.

[849] Definitely mob bossy.

[850] A lot of, yeah, a lot of scamming going on, a lot of stealing.

[851] He's kind of like a politician.

[852] He's kind of like the overall, you know, how could anybody trust anything he would say?

[853] Right.

[854] Yeah.

[855] And anytime someone would say, hey, dude, like some John Goddy nerd came up, he goes, dude, do you know he killed 15 people one night in Miami?

[856] You wouldn't go, dude, where's the proof?

[857] Where's the proof?

[858] Show me. You wouldn't say that.

[859] You would go, you believe it.

[860] And even if it wasn't true, he's like, he's still a douchebag.

[861] He's still a criminal.

[862] He's still killing people.

[863] So, yeah, you were wrong about that.

[864] I was actually, you know, Traficante.

[865] And it wasn't, you know, but still, you know what I mean?

[866] Yeah.

[867] People just naturally, when it comes to the government, they know how corrupt they are.

[868] They know that they're willing to kill their own people.

[869] They know that politicians aren't waking up going, how am I going to make everyone's lives better?

[870] So all those speeches you hear, you know, them trying to like help.

[871] They're not thinking about helping.

[872] They're thinking about keeping their power.

[873] They're criminals.

[874] That's what's going on.

[875] So.

[876] Well, they're in a business and this business has criminal rules.

[877] Yeah.

[878] They've allowed them to have these criminal rules.

[879] It's all about how can.

[880] Every politician, they're all trying to get a hold of that tax money.

[881] Oh, that's the end game right there.

[882] You get that tax money.

[883] You could steal tax money and people were never going to come after you.

[884] You steal corporation money.

[885] You're going to die.

[886] Yeah, they don't even get mad if you steal tax money.

[887] Yeah, the tax money.

[888] It's like just come up with the bills.

[889] Come up with something.

[890] Just anything.

[891] Okay, this bills to build churches and we're going to help children around the world.

[892] and we're going to find a cure for leukemia.

[893] That fuck, yeah, cool, boom.

[894] It's really easy.

[895] You just got to make up some shit.

[896] You got to pretend that you're going to help people.

[897] Oh, this one's the Affordable Housing Act.

[898] You know, we're going to help out poor people.

[899] Like that politician's really trying to help.

[900] What they're trying to do is rip off tax money.

[901] That's it.

[902] Well, they're allocated.

[903] Move it, move it to the people that they want to have it to.

[904] Yeah.

[905] It's a dirty business.

[906] I'm hoping that that changes in the future.

[907] I think the way.

[908] we are being programmed and indoctrinated.

[909] I think it's genius.

[910] It's working so goddamn well because it works on really smart people.

[911] There's intelligent people all over the goddamn world.

[912] Well, because people are invested in the system.

[913] Everybody's invested in the system.

[914] The indoctrination, the school system, man. You know, school really is like designed to get your kids, take the kids from the family.

[915] Like the kids believe their teachers more than their own parents.

[916] And they, the state takes your kids.

[917] They're raising their kids.

[918] It's ridiculous, man. I think most of what's going on in schools is not that.

[919] I think most of it is people that are just totally apathetic about teaching people.

[920] They don't give a fuck.

[921] Most of these people that are teaching, they're doing it as a job.

[922] There's a lot of terrible fucking teachers out there, and they don't get paid anything.

[923] That's the big conspiracy that it's not.

[924] They're taught and told how to teach and what to teach.

[925] They're not like, okay, just give us your own version of English.

[926] It's all put together with educators.

[927] They get together and try to figure out a way to get people to learn these things.

[928] But it's uninspired.

[929] That's more than anything because there's no money to it.

[930] The conspiracy theory is that Rockefeller, John Rockefeller and Carnegie designed the school system to create slaves and to separate the family.

[931] That's the conspiracy theory.

[932] The conspiracy theory is they designed to create workers, right?

[933] Yeah.

[934] People that are slaves to the system.

[935] And the conspiracy theories, they openly said we don't need any more.

[936] philosophers or geniuses.

[937] We got enough of that.

[938] We got that and we got science right here.

[939] We got any science you need come to us.

[940] Like what was the last, what was the last science, great scientific discovery like in the last 40 years that wasn't government funded?

[941] Like there's, there's, I don't know what, what they're, who's funding these studies.

[942] Why do you think that they're government funded?

[943] Like some new shit they come out with.

[944] I don't know.

[945] I don't know.

[946] No one can name anything.

[947] Well, I don't know what, I mean, we'd have to go over like some this studies, but I'm sure a lot of them are not government.

[948] I'm assuming that most scientists are getting paychecks from the government.

[949] I'm just assuming that.

[950] I'm assuming that most scientific data is not, is coming from a bunch of scientists who, yeah, they're getting grants, and they can't say crazy shit.

[951] They got it.

[952] And they're, you know, I sent you that one email, that one guy was telling me that they're, he worked for a team of scientists and they're working for a pesticide company.

[953] And they're told to they go, we're going to do some studies here, and we want it to look like this.

[954] And let's keep doing it.

[955] Let's keep doing the studies until, boom, we get, oh, that's legal.

[956] Well, they can do that.

[957] Yeah, that's a terrible thing.

[958] That's insane.

[959] They keep doing a study until they get the results they want.

[960] And then they don't publish the bad studies.

[961] They only publish the good studies.

[962] And this is what they've done.

[963] It seems like there's basically, in a nutshell, like three kinds of science.

[964] There's the science, like pseudoscience.

[965] It's like pretend science, but for sure it's not real.

[966] It's false science.

[967] pseudoscience and then there's the scientific facts like for sure it's a scientific fact that I can get on the internet with my iPhone I don't need to read a study about it and say oh I actually can't I know it my friends know it that's a scientific fact another scientific fact is my car will take me to point A to point B to point C over and over and it may break down every now and then that's a fact that's the science of my car I believe that science that's scientific fact and then there's a science that you you have to take the scientist word for because there's no way that you can verify that if you have to take if you have to faith in science that's like a religion that's scientist hold on a second what are you talking about like what particular such any kind of science whether it's medical science if you have you have a choice to believe in science that you can't verify yourself you could believe it but you don't have to believe it right but the experts in the field verify it all the people that understand and study it verify it with all the up we all the science that we know that have been has been corrupted just the big ones uh sugar science tobacco science marijuana science vaccine science we know for sure all just those four that there's been a lot of corruption and so it's hard to trust so when someone comes out and especially the government and goes yeah our scientists scientists scientists say that it's safe and effective you got to be like damn i don't know about that i'm not going to just take your fucking word for it you know what i mean you guys are criminals you're john goddy and you guys are saying you guys are saying that this is safe and effective.

[968] I don't know about that.

[969] You know, maybe it is.

[970] I hope it is.

[971] But I don't know.

[972] I don't know because I can't prove it for myself.

[973] Oftentimes drugs that get passed as being safe and they turn out to not be safe.

[974] Exactly.

[975] This is one of the problem with these studies.

[976] Exactly.

[977] This is like what we were talking about earlier with, that nobody wants to discuss the idea that psychotropic drugs have played a part in school shootings.

[978] This is all a very recent thing with human beings.

[979] They're talking about the recent spike, but they're talking about the recent spike in shootings, even by people they know were mass shooters.

[980] Those people are almost all on these pills.

[981] But these pills are very recent.

[982] They leave Big Farm alone.

[983] So when you're talking about, yeah, so when you're talking about just the history of human beings involved in mass killings, it's really recent.

[984] They're crazy.

[985] It's just ramping up.

[986] It's going crazy.

[987] Yeah, well, you know what also is ramping up?

[988] People taking pills.

[989] Yeah.

[990] These things are somehow are, they might not be the cause of it 100%.

[991] It might be society.

[992] It might be suppression.

[993] It might be terrible childhood re -rearrow.

[994] It might be childhood abuse It might be all sorts of like Mental health issues that are inherited All sorts of crazy diseases that people inherit Mental diseases In the vaccine pamphlets There's I think the HPV vaccine That girls are taking it at 10, 11 and 12 Man, the shit that it says in the pamphlet There's a dangerous one too One possible side effect is suicidal thoughts It's called impending doom I watched take your pills last night that documentary on Netflix that's been going around.

[995] How is it?

[996] It's pretty good.

[997] There's not a lot of information.

[998] That's not the Adderall one, is it?

[999] No, it is.

[1000] It is, yeah.

[1001] So there's not a lot of information we don't already know, I feel like.

[1002] They just kind of compile it and make it look really good.

[1003] But one interesting thing that you just brought up a doctor says in it, there's no side effects to pills.

[1004] There's just unintended benefits or non -benefits that you want.

[1005] They're all effects.

[1006] There's no like side effect of like diarrhea, for instance.

[1007] It's an effect of the pill.

[1008] It just wasn't what you wanted.

[1009] I see what you're saying.

[1010] So if you take some.

[1011] it's side effect, call it an effect.

[1012] Right, yeah.

[1013] So if you take something and on some people, it gives suicidal thoughts, it's not a side effect.

[1014] It's just an effect of taking that.

[1015] Yeah, there's people, there's girls wanting to kill themselves for taking the HPV vaccine.

[1016] Not just that, for taking acne medication.

[1017] Acutane is a big one for that.

[1018] Oh, do you know Andrew Santino, hilarious comedian?

[1019] No, funny motherfucker.

[1020] He took acutane when he was, what he said, in high school?

[1021] Is that what he said?

[1022] It was like the best thing that ever happened to him, because his face totally cleared up, but the worst thing that ever happened to them in terms of like how it made them feel, like it just, it makes you feel a lot of people get it and they get suicidal thoughts.

[1023] Yeah, for sure.

[1024] See, so you've got to ask yourself, you know, even if whether kids really are shooting up schools or it's a false flag and they're setting up the kids to do it, that's the other side.

[1025] Whatever the truth is there, there's a gigantic problem with these pills that are making people, crazy and no one really is not a big push to stop it or anything they're being protected they are but there's a giant business in it there's billions of dollars for sure but there's also a lot of people that like those pills there's a lot of people that love zanics like this is again this is one of those things where we always want to look at the bad side of it a lot of people love crack too crack business you could get thrown in jail for that yeah no for sure but i mean people that are functional people just how you like weed i like weed i like some people like Xanax.

[1026] I'm not saying you can't have that.

[1027] It's not my opinion.

[1028] That's not how I feel.

[1029] What I am saying is like we need to be honest about the consequences of all these things and that this is somehow another left out of the equation when I think it's a major part of the equation.

[1030] I don't think it's the only reason why people are shooting up schools or any of this shit.

[1031] But I think it absolutely must be playing a factor.

[1032] And for whatever reason, people don't want to consider that factor.

[1033] And I think some of it is because there's a lot of people out there who like those pills.

[1034] They like the way they feel on antidepressants.

[1035] They like the way they feel on anti -anxiety medication.

[1036] They like taking Ambien before they go to bed.

[1037] They don't want to hear.

[1038] They like what it gives them.

[1039] I know people who can't sleep without Ambien.

[1040] They can't sleep without it.

[1041] And if you try telling them that Ambien fucks up your heart rate or does this to that or make up some things.

[1042] I don't know if it fucks up your heart rate.

[1043] I'm just saying that.

[1044] If you started saying that to people, they would just immediately tune out.

[1045] Whatever, dude.

[1046] I'm sleeping like a baby.

[1047] You know it would be a great false flag?

[1048] is if they set up another shooter and just said he was totally stoned you know that way they could reverse the this the legalization of weed of course it's a joke do you know what I what I started smoking then but they have the power in the media to turn it into that like all of a sudden these guys are getting really high in Colorado and California we need it we need a it's a joke okay it's not funny that wouldn't work today I've been smoking blunts And I smoked them I was like, okay, now I understand rap music Like I was like These rappers are so aggressive But they're also high I'm like what the fuck's going on It's the goddamn tobacco Tobacco Mixed in with weed That is a different thing That's a different animal It's a little too potent sometimes It's a little too woo Like you're like You're like what are we talking about I like it every now and then Every now and then I like it too I'm like you know what It gives you a different kind of head buzz Well tobacco gives you Donald Soroni got me on the dip When he was not I haven't done it since then But when we were in the podcast He did it and I swallowed some of it And but one thing I liked about I was like oh now I get why you guys do it It's like it hypes you up It gets you kind of like elevated You know it's like a, you ever smoke a cigar?

[1049] Maybe two It's a powerful version of a cigarette Like you're getting some serious fucking nicotine In your system When you smoke a fat stogi You got a big old fucking Hoyo de Monterey double corona and you're Prydel Castro style By the time you get to the end of that thing You're high as fuck dude You're not high like you can't talk Or like you can't walk or you can't function But you're definitely feeling that tobacco You're feeling it's doing something to your system And they say it actually has a cognitive enhancing function that's similar to neutropics And coffee as well That like it actually can make you perform better in tests If you smoke cigarettes or if you smoke a cigar and writers always say that like I know a lot of people who write like writers for sitcoms and stuff like that those guys always smoke cigarettes when they write and they say they can't write without smoking Stephen King said that it's like their weed yeah well it does have something going on man but it's instead of like it's not it's to me it's more like amped than it is creative weed is super creative weed makes me think of thoughts where I write them down I'm like I can't even claim that that's not even my thought that's weed's thoughts You know what I mean?

[1050] Like I would have never, just leave me by myself with no drugs and a notebook.

[1051] I would have never come up with that idea.

[1052] But the weed's like, hey, man, listen to this.

[1053] Baa!

[1054] You know, the weed is way more of a, like an idea steroid.

[1055] I believe it.

[1056] I see people who don't smoke weed and they write.

[1057] I'm like, ooh, you're so brave.

[1058] Yeah, out there with no helmet.

[1059] You got no life preserver on.

[1060] And now it's crazy legal everywhere.

[1061] This recreational weed in California.

[1062] It's insane.

[1063] You just walk.

[1064] Nine states now.

[1065] Yeah.

[1066] I think 18 states have legal medical and nine states have legal recreational.

[1067] Nine.

[1068] Yeah, it's a wave.

[1069] It's going across the whole country.

[1070] It's changing everything.

[1071] And it's good.

[1072] And you know what the next wave is?

[1073] MDMA.

[1074] MD.

[1075] Therapy for PTSD patients has unprecedented results.

[1076] Really?

[1077] Maps is involved in this.

[1078] What is it?

[1079] Multiple disciplinary association for psychedelic studies or something like that.

[1080] MAPS is amazing.

[1081] Really above board organization that is at the forefront of legalization of psychedelics and of psychedelic research.

[1082] And they've been involved in studies with soldiers.

[1083] And they have amazing results with this stuff.

[1084] MDMA just lets you forgive yourself.

[1085] It lets you forget everything.

[1086] It reprograms your brain.

[1087] It reprograms other people in your life.

[1088] It changes, it could, one hit of MDM, MDMA, that always confuses me. Molly, it's a lot easier, one hit can change your taste in music forever, forever.

[1089] I believe it.

[1090] Because before I ever did it, the first time I did it was 1997, and before that, I was a DJ at this point, and I couldn't stand techno.

[1091] I hated techno music so much, and I was a DJ.

[1092] And any time a girl went on stage and she was a techno girl, I'm like, this is, because I play drums for real.

[1093] So when you listen to techno or house, it's like, that's the most basic dumpsh in every song.

[1094] Every fucking drum beats the same.

[1095] I couldn't accept it as a musician.

[1096] And most musicians feel that way about techno.

[1097] And I went to a birthday party at the key club in Hollywood.

[1098] And I walk in and upstairs is techno and downstairs in the little bottom club is hip hop.

[1099] And it was a birthday party.

[1100] And everyone was downstairs.

[1101] and me and my buddy Rick, we walk in and we're standing at the edge of the techno fluid and there's like all these dudes just like dancing by themselves and they're just like mental cases, right?

[1102] And I was just standing there looking at him going what the fuck is wrong with these people?

[1103] Oh my God.

[1104] So I went downstairs.

[1105] They're playing hip hop.

[1106] I'm like, that's what I want to hear at clubs.

[1107] I want to hear hip hop at a club.

[1108] I want to dance with a girl, not by myself.

[1109] You know, so I'm downstairs and then they start passing around Somali and something like you want to do it.

[1110] I'll never forget that first one was blue I'm like who I don't know I don't know so I took it me my body both took it and it hit us that that first hit just hits you like a fucking ton of bricks we go upstairs and we're on the dance we're dancing like morons dude and we're looking at each other go you get it because I get it I go you get it I get it and yeah from that point on you got all in the trance yeah from that point it wasn't just like that night it changed my musical taste in one hit and I had a friend at the club who was a total R &B dude he hated techno and he would talk shit when I'd play techno one day you're gonna do some mollian you're gonna be all into techno he goes fuck you that'll never happen I can't stand this music he starts dating the raver chick like six months later at the club some raver chick he ends up at a rave he ends up dropping some molly he starts coming in and bringing all these new techno CDs and he's all into full blown into trans and techno.

[1111] Just one hit.

[1112] This is the real problem.

[1113] It's illegal.

[1114] So when you get it from someone, you don't know what the fuck you're getting.

[1115] That's the real problem with Molly.

[1116] That's the real problem with MDMA.

[1117] It's also the dosage.

[1118] You don't know what the dosage is supposed to be.

[1119] Look, you can overdose an alcohol, and alcohol is everywhere, but everybody knows what the dose of alcohol is.

[1120] If you go to a bar and you get a shot of Jack Daniels, you know what that is.

[1121] It's not like sometimes you get a shot of Jack Daniels, and it's Jack Daniels.

[1122] Sometimes you get it and it's super fucking moonshine.

[1123] It's 17 times stronger and you die.

[1124] That's the problem with heroin.

[1125] That's the problem with a lot of things.

[1126] The real problem with MDMA seems to be that it's illegal.

[1127] That's the real problem.

[1128] And what their finding is that there's great benefits if it's used correctly.

[1129] I mean, anything could be abused.

[1130] But that doesn't mean we should make it illegal.

[1131] And what they want to do, I think their timeline is somewhere around 2021, making it legal for therapy.

[1132] It's going to change the world.

[1133] It's going to change everything.

[1134] It's going to change the way people feel about the past.

[1135] It's going to change the way people interact with each other.

[1136] You're going to know just by people's behavior whether or not they've ever done it or not.

[1137] You know where it comes from?

[1138] Where MDMA comes from?

[1139] The part of it, the active ingredient that takes you, that just makes you...

[1140] It's a plant, right?

[1141] Where's that plan at?

[1142] It's in Thailand or...

[1143] Either Thailand or...

[1144] It's like Cambodia.

[1145] It's in Cambodia.

[1146] It's like the bark, like the...

[1147] something about the like the root of a tree trunk or something yeah it has something to do with a tree well james pulling it up but it becomes very dangerous for those people right like all that the trafficking becomes crazy yeah there's they they fuck up for us like forests are being chopped down of just just just for the not only that people are being murdered it's like it's heavy -duty stuff um i don't know is that what it says i googled it and just looked at images and that's what's popping up i think it was an MDMA cambodia trees but um is that sassafras okay Okay, maybe that is.

[1148] Sassafras and Saffroly.

[1149] Sassafras, yeah, I guess it's Sassafras.

[1150] Dude, it's a plant.

[1151] Whatever that plan is, they take the...

[1152] See if that...

[1153] Just Google Vice, the making of ecstasy.

[1154] Because I'm pretty sure Vice did this.

[1155] Could you Google that, please?

[1156] I think Vice had a special on that.

[1157] I wonder what would happen if you just ate it raw.

[1158] I wonder.

[1159] Can you do that?

[1160] Is there a special?

[1161] What does it say?

[1162] The truth about ecstasy.

[1163] Yeah, so there's some sort of a vice episode where they grow this stuff.

[1164] Anyway, this should be something that's not distributed by criminals wearing ski masks like you've seen in this video.

[1165] It should be something distributed by stores.

[1166] And there should be doctors.

[1167] And if you wanted it, you could have a rave where you even have medical centers in the rave where you keep people from overdosing.

[1168] Yeah.

[1169] When they're the transitionary period from people going from drugs being totally, illegal to some drugs having massive benefits.

[1170] Like if you go to a club, right, and everyone there's, come on, we're doing shots, we're doing shots.

[1171] The whole fucking bar is getting wasted and drunk.

[1172] Everybody's fine with that, but you're not fine with a club where everybody does a small amount of ecstasy.

[1173] Well, why can't you do that?

[1174] Well, that's drugs.

[1175] Well, the other one's drugs, too.

[1176] You're just used to those drugs.

[1177] Once we get past that hurdle, and it might take a whole generation before people get used to places where you go.

[1178] One drug gets you violent.

[1179] One drug makes you want to have sucks but listen you're not going to stop that drug here's my point it's a powerful really useful drug people are going to find out about it it's an amazing experience they're going to do it so what's the best way to handle that best way to handle is make it safe make it legal make it regulated so they know what actually is in each one of these fucking pills you're not getting it from some pimp or some asshole or some fucking crazy dude who stuffed in in a balloon put it up his asshole and made it across the border with it you don't know where the fuck you're getting the stuff and they cut it with all sorts of shit too all sorts of shit amphetamines and all sorts of crazy shit and people die from it because they don't know what the fuck is in there here it is um okay it says mur oh boy m r e a h p r e w p r h p r n o m trees marie proum trees in cambodia and they're found in the cambodia's oh sassafrasse the factory's been set up to distill sassafrice oil uh processed by boiling the roots in the trunk of the exceptionally rare plant Oh, they're really rare trees, too.

[1180] Wow.

[1181] How crazy is that?

[1182] How many of these fucking trees are, like, in the middle of the rainforest that we don't know about?

[1183] You know?

[1184] I mean, there's got to be some shit where they haven't tapped into it yet.

[1185] They're finding all sorts of different pharmaceutical drugs that they concoct out of stuff they plant.

[1186] In the Amazon?

[1187] Isn't it something like insects are evolving so fast in the Amazon that they only have names for, I think, 90 % or 10 % of the insects?

[1188] 90 % they have no names.

[1189] No, it's crazy.

[1190] Is that true?

[1191] They have all sorts of bugs in the Amazon for sure that they haven't identified.

[1192] They know that for a fact, and they do evolve.

[1193] They're a rare thing where you can, there's like some primitive life forms you could find that didn't exist before.

[1194] Like they found this crayfish.

[1195] I think it's in India or Europe, maybe Europe, crayfish that produces by cloning, they don't have sex.

[1196] So female, they're all female.

[1197] And one crayfish just makes a bunch of other babies, just makes babies.

[1198] She doesn't need sex.

[1199] It just needs sex.

[1200] And they're like, what the fuck?

[1201] I mean, obviously there's no genetic diversity, right?

[1202] Because they obviously would need a male DNA to mix with the female DNA.

[1203] There it is.

[1204] Mutant crayfish clones itself and it's taking over Europe.

[1205] So this crayfish doesn't fuck.

[1206] They just reproduce.

[1207] Like one crayfish could just reproduce.

[1208] It's really bananas.

[1209] So this is a new thing that didn't exist 25 years ago.

[1210] This is something that they're very sure wasn't a living organism up until recently.

[1211] Here's a good thing.

[1212] Crayfish are delicious.

[1213] People are starving to death.

[1214] Now they got some motherfuckers that all you have to do is just throw some stuff in there.

[1215] You don't have to count on them fucking.

[1216] Maybe it's the same stuff that made the frogs gay.

[1217] Could be.

[1218] Could be.

[1219] Could be, bro.

[1220] Maybe it's linked.

[1221] Could be, bro.

[1222] But if you, I mean, it could be, could be pesticides.

[1223] Could be, look, there's another thing about the amount of people that flush pills down the toilet and how much that shit goes through water treatment plants and into aqueducts and into reservoirs and shit.

[1224] There's a lot of pills that get flushed down our toilets.

[1225] And some of them make it into rivers and shit.

[1226] Some of them make it into the ocean.

[1227] You know what's supposed to be particularly bad?

[1228] I never thought about this until a friend of mine who was a surfer told me. He was a yoga teacher.

[1229] It was a surfer.

[1230] And said nobody told him and he got real sick because he went into the ocean right after the rain.

[1231] You can't go to the ocean after the rain.

[1232] Because when it rains in L .A., all that bullshit, all the chemicals and toxins and cleaners and oil.

[1233] and gasoline and plastic washes into the water like right at the shore and that's where it's all just swashing around in there with the waves and you get in there and you get sick as fuck you're basically getting poisoned is there some kind of filtration system before they just let all the water just run right into the ocean runs right from the streets from the runoff just from the streets I think where does the toilet water go does that separate water goes through a sewage system different system yeah it goes through a sanitation system but sometimes those break i was uh at the charles river in boston once and i was uh it was like right across the street from where i lived and i'd hang out there all the time when i was a kid and i was standing there on the shore and i saw these bubbles and like these chunks of things floating up to the water and i was like what the fuck is that and then i saw a condom bloop come up and i went oh that's a sewer pipe they're flushing condoms and like shit and condom water it's coming right through the fucking ground into this river where all these fish live.

[1234] And this fish are probably living off a human shit.

[1235] What's the water like after the sewage water runs through the filtration system?

[1236] What is that water?

[1237] And where does it go?

[1238] Fiji Pals.

[1239] Does it go $2 .99 for 8 ounces?

[1240] Based on what I saw online, it seems like Fiji water is the best water out there.

[1241] They tested a lot of bottled water and a lot of bottled water has a lot of bullshit in it.

[1242] Look at this.

[1243] After 50 years, Boston's Charles River just became swimmable again.

[1244] Took $500 million in nearly two decades of work.

[1245] Here's how the city did it.

[1246] That's it, man. That was the river that's connected to over, that river went all the way down near my house.

[1247] Why was it so polluted?

[1248] People were gross.

[1249] Dude, when, and people started building shit in the 1800s, they didn't give a fuck about the future.

[1250] They took that sewer pipe and went just lay it right there and pumped Right into the fucking ocean, I'm going to take a shit right in that water.

[1251] It's going to go shooting down that pipe and drop right on a fish's head.

[1252] Who cares?

[1253] They didn't give a fuck.

[1254] When they were building things, they would have all their industrial runoff just go right into rivers.

[1255] They polluted thousands of rivers.

[1256] Like, who the fuck knows how many fish died because people in the early days of the Industrial Revolution were fucking assholes?

[1257] They didn't have any consequences.

[1258] They didn't think about the possibility of completely destroying the environment.

[1259] Like, that didn't exist before the age of the industrial machines.

[1260] The only time it existed before that was in dead bodies would pollute river systems and shit after war, you know?

[1261] Yeah.

[1262] Like when people would throw bodies into rivers, like that would, you know, that would fuck up people's wells that would fuck up, you know, any drinking water.

[1263] People got real sick from that.

[1264] How did Kings shit?

[1265] What did their toilets look like?

[1266] Like back in the 1500s, 1600s?

[1267] Looks like some dude that hate his mouth.

[1268] Yeah, you know, exactly, right?

[1269] They had to have some, shit right?

[1270] They had to have pimp -ass toilets for the Kings back in the day.

[1271] I'm sure they did.

[1272] Why don't you Google it, Jamie?

[1273] Google toilet from King Henry the 8th.

[1274] King Henry the 8th guy who killed all his wives, right?

[1275] I got toilets from all the way back in the BCs, but I'm going to go to more reasonable.

[1276] King Henry the 8th got tired of those ladies, just cut their fucking hands off.

[1277] Where does a king's loaf go to?

[1278] Where does it lead to?

[1279] It's inspected by doctors.

[1280] They want to make sure he's got enough fiber in his diet.

[1281] Keep his highness alive.

[1282] Where did the King's ships go?

[1283] What did you just find, Jamie?

[1284] What's that face?

[1285] Something called a thunderman.

[1286] mug.

[1287] Oh, nice.

[1288] Pull that up.

[1289] Make sure it was what it was supposed to be.

[1290] Hold on.

[1291] Make sure.

[1292] Oh, okay, this is, uh, from the 1600s that's what he shit into.

[1293] It's no, it says, that's why I was say this, this is a Shakespearean chamber pot, not the Bard's own thunder mug, but it is a typical chamber pot.

[1294] That's what they would call them chamber pots.

[1295] I think.

[1296] So it's a pot he's shit in, like literally a shit in a pot.

[1297] That looks sturdy.

[1298] So it's really like a toilet bowl.

[1299] It's like a toilet bowl.

[1300] It just doesn't have water in it.

[1301] Do you think they've left water in it to make it easier to clean?

[1302] Probably next to it.

[1303] Probably smarter to have water in there.

[1304] Yeah.

[1305] Fill it up.

[1306] Yeah.

[1307] You get a couple slaves to pull it out, dump it, and you're good.

[1308] Like, you ever have to take a shit on a plane and you see how little water there is and that little thing that you're dropping logs into?

[1309] And then when you flush, it never gets it all.

[1310] You know, and you've got to think, do I just like play stupid and get out of here?

[1311] I've got to give a courtesy flush.

[1312] American Revolution is a hole in the ground.

[1313] Nice.

[1314] Imagine falling into that hole.

[1315] That's your death.

[1316] You choked to death on shit.

[1317] It's happened.

[1318] 100 %'s happened.

[1319] It's happened.

[1320] I read about a dude who fell into a septic tank.

[1321] He fell into a septic tank and drowned.

[1322] He had a septic tank in his backyard.

[1323] And he was fixing it somehow or another and it broke, he fell through and he drowned in a fucking septic tank.

[1324] How did they get rid of their shit in the city, just regular peasants?

[1325] Like, what did they just throw out in the streets?

[1326] Or did they have to collect it and drag it out to the woods?

[1327] It's a good question.

[1328] Well, there was a real issue in Rome in the early days of people shitting in the streets.

[1329] And apparently, there's a lot of people in San Francisco right now that are shitting in the streets.

[1330] It's a real issue.

[1331] Jake Shields, my friend, the M .MA fighter, Jiu -Jitsu Master, Jake Shields.

[1332] You know Jake Shields, you know Jake Shields, of course.

[1333] He put a video up on Instagram of some dude shitting, like pulling his pants down and like shitting right into the street.

[1334] Like he said, it's happening everywhere.

[1335] San Francisco has an amazing amount of bums.

[1336] I think it was Jake Shields.

[1337] I don't want to speak out of Torn.

[1338] Pretty sure it was Jake.

[1339] That's the best city for homeless people, for sure.

[1340] They let people do whatever the fuck they want in that city.

[1341] They're so nice.

[1342] They're so open -minded and they feel so guilty because they made a billion dollars from like brazzers .com or some shit.

[1343] You know, they made all that tech money.

[1344] You know, like it's a different kind of money.

[1345] They're so liberal.

[1346] In comparison to like Wall Street banker type dudes, those dudes are like cut, throat, right wing.

[1347] like private jet fuck you minko big watch go go go I'm doing coke whereas the money on the other side like the tech money they're like well diversity is really important and women they need to be represented in tech and this is their space this is a space for them too we need to let them know we need to encourage that like they're so left wing they're like these homeless people they also just because they don't have an address doesn't mean this city is not equally theirs You know, we have to help them and offer aid And crackheads just taking diarrhea Splatter Shits against walls They just let these people get away They were fucking mentally ill people And they just let them wander around Through their streets If they really cared, you know what they would do They would really put some money Into taking care of these people Instead of just letting them wander around the street shit and all over the place Have a place where you can get them clothes From the Salvation Army or something like that Have a place where you give them regular showers have something that's like appealing they can go to all the time so you keep them from just shitting on the streets in front of everybody like that's crazy billy corrigan had a residency in san francisco uh maybe eight years ago and uh it was all about him just writing songs on the spot and going on stage that night and doing brand new songs like a weird kind of residency and he had this one song that he wrote about he was just hanging out in the park in san francisco and just disgusting it all was, and called the song Peace and Love, excellent song, one of his greatest songs.

[1348] It's deep.

[1349] It's about the bums.

[1350] There's so many, man. We used to run into them all the time when we did gigs in San Francisco.

[1351] We'd go out to eat, and you'd have to do like this bum obstacle course on the way to the restaurant.

[1352] Like, oh, here comes one.

[1353] Get across the street.

[1354] Oh, no, no, no. I don't have money, bro.

[1355] They're super aggressive, too.

[1356] Yes, yes.

[1357] People are real tolerant there.

[1358] Yeah.

[1359] But isn't that better?

[1360] That's better than the opposite.

[1361] I think it's good to live in a place that's as tolerant as possible.

[1362] Even if the super lefties get annoying, you don't want the opposite.

[1363] See, they might fuck up because there's the same sort of mentality that goes on with people on the far left and people in the far right.

[1364] That mentality is, my way's the right way.

[1365] I'm right.

[1366] You're wrong.

[1367] Fuck you.

[1368] I'm going to make you change.

[1369] I'm going to make you do what I. And that doesn't work.

[1370] That doesn't work on anybody.

[1371] But I always feel like it's safer and better when that's happening towards like kindness and compassion.

[1372] and income equality and all these things that are I see like even though it gets very authoritarian I see that at least it has like a good heart to it all like even if it's misguided some of some socialism's misguided or even if they're pretending yeah there's always that that's a good move right if you're going to pretend you pretend towards the left yeah if you want to make some money yeah you could steal all sorts of tax money just pretend you're helping people there's definitely a lot of that going on there's no doubt about that dude we have haven't talked about ternie ferguson it's two o 'clock yeah this is the kind of podcast we do do holy shit we ramble we ramble god damn um we have to talk about tony ferguson seen as how you're his jiu jitzu coach and i was fucking convinced i told jamie i told jimmy smith i'm like i'm not buying it i'm not buying it it's april fools the shit's coming on april fools fuck you man you'll fool me once shame on you fool me 50 times or how many times i've been busted by april fools i'm like there's no fucking way tony ferguson got hurt a week before the the fight there's no way yeah and it's true that's the first thing i thought i'm like oh my god everyone's gonna think this is april fools this what dana said yeah everyone's no one's gonna believe this you know i found out uh late saturday night you know i'm in the studio with danny loner just making some music and um you know i knew something something might have been wrong because we were supposed to work saturday afternoon and um he never know shows he's late a lot but he was late and I'm just hanging out in front of the studio he's got his own gym now and after a while I didn't return his text I'm like something you know he's he's a fucking superstar there's a lot of shit going on so I just said okay fuck it so I left and went on with my day went in the studio and then I get the text like 1125 at night Saturday night he said I fucked up my knee I blew my fucking LCL out he wants to fight he wants to fight he does not he did not not want to fight but his doctor said you can't fight and he was like i need a second opinion so he went to the ufc doctors they said nope you can't fight his lcels detached from his knee according to so it's pulled from the bone it's pulled off the bone that's what they said it's really it's not like usually you that's how dana described it yeah usually you tear your lcL or your mcel usually because i've i've done my mcel before it repairs on its own so thick according to what the doctors tell me I don't know shit but you know but you need you tear your meniscus you probably need surgery for that or you tear your ACL you for sure need surgery for that if it's a if it's a complete tear but the LCL and the MCL the only time they're they again according to what I hear the only time we need surgery is if it's fucking blown the fuck out like motorcycle accents right freak things and when I say Tony wanted to fight he would have fought with that shit He didn't give a fuck.

[1373] They wouldn't let him fight.

[1374] He wanted a fight.

[1375] Was he walking with sunglasses on indoors?

[1376] I don't know.

[1377] I don't know what he was wearing.

[1378] This is what Dana was saying, I think.

[1379] Said he tripped over some wires.

[1380] Some, you know those thick cables that they laid?

[1381] Yeah, yeah.

[1382] Apparently he tripped over water and fell fucking.

[1383] That's insane.

[1384] It's the craziest thing ever.

[1385] It's insane.

[1386] It's so crazy.

[1387] It's so sad.

[1388] That fight is doomed.

[1389] Dana White said he would never put.

[1390] that fight on again i'm like are you crazy book that shit again the thing that sucks is the thing that sucks is uh maybe four is the magic number dana said in an interview kind of hinted or alluded to the fact may i hope i'm wrong i hope i'm wrong but that they would they're going to strip tony of his interim belt like you know robert where did you see that um someone told me i didn't hear it so that's why i'm saying i don't know if it's true someone said yeah dana just did an interview and he was he was hinting like oh he said in so in such a way that Tony is going to get stripped of his belt and I thought that's ridiculous well here's my question if someone is the champ right and they get injured and they can't defend their title then they have an interim title right yeah but if the interim guy gets injured and can't defend the interim title do they strip the is that ever happened Robert Whitaker he had Tony first loses interim lightweight title when Nuremogamatoff and Holloway Square off.

[1391] So I guess they're taking the title.

[1392] Yeah, they didn't do that.

[1393] I mean, they didn't do that to Robert Whitaker.

[1394] He was the interim champion.

[1395] Should they have an interim interim?

[1396] No?

[1397] I don't know, man. It doesn't seem right.

[1398] They let Whitaker take 11 months off to recover.

[1399] Why would they do that?

[1400] It was the exact same thing.

[1401] It was the exact same situation.

[1402] Robert Whitaker was fighting for the interim, or he had the interim title.

[1403] He was going to fight.

[1404] I forget who it was.

[1405] It was either, was it Yolomero?

[1406] I forget who it was.

[1407] And then he got injured.

[1408] They didn't strip him.

[1409] Right.

[1410] Why they stripping Tony.

[1411] Do you feel like it's punishment for him getting injured a week out?

[1412] Like they're pissed and like, fuck it.

[1413] Strip them?

[1414] Yeah, I don't know.

[1415] I don't know.

[1416] I don't know, but that's...

[1417] You can't do that, right?

[1418] That's not right.

[1419] I mean, he got to, did Tony want her to fight more than anybody?

[1420] We got to believe him out.

[1421] Like, if he happens four weeks ago, and it's an injury in training, and he tears it from the bone is that they just reschedule the fight right yeah and it's still for the interim title why is it like a week out the interim is canceled maybe it's because they have to make a big fight with max holloway versus kabeeb for the world that cost that cost Tony a lot of money because he has the interim belt he he was this was going to be by far as the biggest payday ever for him I mean he's making some good money right it's because of the belt.

[1422] So if you strip him, his next fight, he doesn't have that belt anymore to get money, you know?

[1423] So he'll get significantly less money?

[1424] Say what if you don't have a belt?

[1425] Hell yeah.

[1426] What if Max or Khabi wins, right?

[1427] One of them I assume he's going to win, whoever one it is.

[1428] And then Tony gets healthy.

[1429] And then they're going to have Tony fight one of those guys for the title.

[1430] Like he would get less than he would have for this fight?

[1431] If he doesn't have the belt?

[1432] Really.

[1433] So that's part of the contract?

[1434] If you have a bet, if you're going to negotiate for a fight and you have a belt, you have way more power than if you don't have a belt.

[1435] So by stripping him of the belt, his next fight when he heals up and comes back, he's going to, it's going to cost him.

[1436] And it's not fair because, again, Robert Whitaker didn't get stripped of his interim belt.

[1437] Max Holloway and Khabib should just fight, just, you know, a main event fight.

[1438] It doesn't have to be for a belt because that's going to fuck Tony.

[1439] well why would it fuck Tony if he still gets the interim title if he kept the interim title then it wouldn't fuck yes exactly for his next fight when he negotiates for his next fight and then he would be interim title holder versus world title holder yeah why does max and and kabee have to fight for a belt it doesn't have to be for a belt well the thing is the UFC holds all the cards they can make up the rules they can do whatever they want when it comes to the rankings and stuff right they can't do whatever they want when it comes to rules so with their position they're like look this is going to cost this shitload of money how do we recoup that money you know how do we okay we get Holloway to fight oh that's almost as big that's a giant fight too okay now we're back now we're back in business and the Strippingham thing I don't know what the policy is on that I don't know if there's a public policy or if it's just they just make the call I think they could do whatever they want to do I don't think they would never give up that power if they did have it like to some organizing body like why would they right because organizing bodies could even get corrupted but I think you have to be very careful when you make like interim titles that you don't make too many of them and you don't have them around too often you know like once you have them you got to get them resolved pretty quick like they're they're a way to build up excitement about the fight but yeah I mean I don't think they would have stripped him if you got injured four weeks ago but who knows I might be wrong they might just be maybe they have a new policy maybe they're just stripping people but then Connor hasn't fought in 500 days yeah he's not stripped yet exactly Connor's not stripped yet he hasn't fought more than 500 days MMA last time he fought was Eddie Alvarez that was his last MMA fight that was a long time ago man yeah that's a long time ago and then he hasn't been stripped so imagine being a lightweight just sitting around waiting while he's on boxing TV having a boxing match of Floyd Mayweather.

[1440] He doesn't even get stripped of his title, doesn't defend it, makes $100 million.

[1441] They're like, when you're fighting again, he was like, who fucking knows?

[1442] It doesn't say shit.

[1443] It would be a lot clear as what to do in the situation.

[1444] If Connor would have just fought like a regular lightweight champion, there wouldn't be this interim confusion.

[1445] It's so good for Connor, though.

[1446] All of it just makes him bigger and bigger.

[1447] It's like they didn't change the rules for him, you know?

[1448] I mean, like, think about that.

[1449] But for him, like, it just makes him bigger.

[1450] He hasn't fought in 500 days.

[1451] Who fucking cares?

[1452] He's just rolling around a bathtub full of $100 bills every day.

[1453] Just diving in there and swimming.

[1454] He can do whatever the fuck he wants.

[1455] Yeah.

[1456] Did you see that documentary on Netflix?

[1457] No, I didn't.

[1458] It's really good.

[1459] Is it?

[1460] Yeah.

[1461] He knew he was going to be a champion back in the day.

[1462] It starts when he has just one tattoo, the one down, the one down his back.

[1463] That's it.

[1464] None of the neck tattoos or anything.

[1465] And he already knew.

[1466] He knew.

[1467] He just had, like, dynamite in his hands.

[1468] Crushing people on the local scene, crushing them.

[1469] Yeah.

[1470] One shots, boom.

[1471] Yeah, I saw him fight in 2013, I think.

[1472] Somewhere around there.

[1473] In his first chance at the UFC, I wouldn't have been known if I didn't see this documentary.

[1474] It's hard to keep track of everything, but it was in Sweden.

[1475] It was a Swedish show.

[1476] It was like last -minute replacement.

[1477] They brought him in, and he fought, what was his name?

[1478] black guy shit forget his name good guy real good guy and he lit him up and that was like damn after that one fight like there's there's footage of him and Dana and like Dana was already he already knew it he goes man I guess the hype was real Jesus my favorite fights with him are the two fights with Nate Diaz though you know why because those are the fights where he couldn't put someone away just crack him and put him away so you had to see him fight yeah he had a fight And it's a totally different game Like if you see what he did to Eddie Alvarez That was a totally different kind of fight Because he stung Eddie early Had him hurt and he was his He owned him and then he fucked him up And stopped him That was a beating What round was that?

[1479] I think it was a second Second was a second He barely made it out of the first right?

[1480] Yeah barely made it He mean he got fucked up from the get go And Connor just had his numbers Way faster, way quicker And like covering distance Just like laser beams at night And I don't think Eddie fought right I think Eddie was a little bit too caught up in the moment This is the big hype of the fight Getting to fight Connor McGregor And he just got fucked up And Connor had his hands behind his back And standing right in front of him chicken necking him And then popping him in the face Like that was ugly So that You know Like what year was that?

[1481] That was 500 days ago Like that's That kind of fight is a great fight for Connor But that's all hammer When he fought Nate He had to be the nail Through a lot of that The whole fucking second round of the first fight When Nate got him down Was the second round submission, right?

[1482] Wasn't it?

[1483] I don't know when he submitted him But did Nate submit him in the second round?

[1484] What are you looking at me?

[1485] Funny one?

[1486] You got something?

[1487] These full pull out more than I do with my dick That's what Connor said.

[1488] These fools pull out more than I do with my dick.

[1489] I like how he had to specify with his dick.

[1490] So he must have only pulled out four times max.

[1491] That's not that great.

[1492] The fights with Nate were fights.

[1493] You know, he had to dig deep.

[1494] and he lost the first one he got beat up he got taken down he got his back taken he got choked he tapped i mean he fucking lost that fight and then the second fight he drops nate but he can't put nate away Nate gets back up they're going after it there's fucking times where he's got to stand and walk away he's got to walk away because he's too tired he can't engage right now so he walked away a couple times in those exchanges those were dig dig fights what's this buddy round two yeah yeah okay submission really naked choke four minutes and 12 seconds at a round two.

[1495] Yeah, he beat him down, wore him down, and then stopped him.

[1496] And the fight that Conard won, could that have gone either way?

[1497] Yes, yes.

[1498] There was arguments, right?

[1499] Yes, very close fight.

[1500] I don't remember that much.

[1501] I think under the new rules, Connor probably would have won because I think, look, I think even just a one knockdown is not good enough for a 10 -8 round.

[1502] It's just not, you know, in a five -minute round, like one knockdown.

[1503] It depends on how the other exchanges were going.

[1504] changes were all the same and then you cracked him once you definitely won but did you win 10 8 like 10 8 is a beat down I think you know but even I think that should be wrong I don't think it should be that I think should be like a hundred points yeah and I think they should have like scores for like one through 10 in striking one through 10 in wrestling one through 10 with or non applicable if there's no wrestling at all you just attend but you got to look at it this way though if um if you could have a fight and in one round it's super close and really nothing here happen is super close and no one really connected anything and that happens all the time that's a 10 -9 round right um should uh and then you you compare that to another round where a guy got dropped but it was kind of a flash knock down he pops back up and then they then it's kind of even for the rest of the round that can't be a 10 -9 too so either you got to make more uh 10 -10 rounds or 9 -9 rounds and then you could say okay a knock -down doesn't necessarily mean 10 -8 because then a 10 -9 is going to mean One dude clearly won and he landed some good shots.

[1505] That's a 10 -9.

[1506] Right, right.

[1507] So it's all how you lay it down.

[1508] So if you're going to give a dude where the round could have gone either way and you're going to give someone a 10 -9 and it looks just like a dude getting knocked down, that should be different.

[1509] So it all depends on add more draws or make it so that if you knock a dude down, that's an automatic 10 -8 round.

[1510] You knock a dude down.

[1511] 10 -7.

[1512] What if he's beating your ass?

[1513] Wait, hold on.

[1514] What if he's beating your ass?

[1515] ass all over the place and then you catch him with like five seconds ago drop him and he gets right back up and he cracks you with a jab do you still get a 10 -8 because you dropped him i think that's uh i think i would say that's a 9 -9 yeah it's a 9 -9 maybe right because if you're beating the guy's beating your ass before the guy's beating your ass down the whole round and then you clip him once and he drops maybe you weren't really beating him down that hard maybe you just look like it because he still cracked you if you were really beating him down how was he able to to knock you down so that happens all the time guys still have power especially if you're run into something that's a hard one that's a hard one to score that's a hard one to score a knock down then a beat down you get outclass the whole match or the whole round and then you get knocked down once do you remember when drago pete cell fought scott smith scott smith from rocky four no no i'm kidding i thought that's what you were saying like do you remember when drago and the second round against Rocky.

[1516] We met him a long time ago at Matt Serra's place.

[1517] Remember Pete Sell?

[1518] Do you remember Pete's nice?

[1519] Yes, I know exactly where it is.

[1520] Pete dropped, he hurt Scott Smith real bad with the left hook to the body.

[1521] Like Scott doubled over and winced and Pete moved in for the kill.

[1522] And Scott Smith just landed the perfect picture point.

[1523] But he was a, like, wasn't he faking it?

[1524] He was faking it?

[1525] No. No. He dropped in agony after he knocked him out.

[1526] Pete hooked him to the body, hurt him real bad.

[1527] and when Pete moved in for the kill, Scott Smith hit him with a picture perfect right here.

[1528] That I do remember.

[1529] I remember that one.

[1530] Just knocked him out.

[1531] He falls back and then Scott Smith drops to the ground if they stopped a fight and he's in agony holding on to his side.

[1532] It was crazy.

[1533] It was crazy.

[1534] See, that can't happen.

[1535] Like even if you're beating a guy down, they're still moving.

[1536] If they still just plant and just uncork one, Pat Barry checked Congo.

[1537] Remember that shit?

[1538] Pat Barry had Czech Congo on Coir Street.

[1539] He was wobbling and all over the place.

[1540] It looked like the fight was.

[1541] over, and Pat moves in for the kill, and boom, Czech Congo hits him with a haymaker as he's running in, flatlines Pat Barry for the first time in his career.

[1542] Shit can happen.

[1543] If you're not knocked out, you're still moving, you still can knock someone out.

[1544] It can happen, especially if they get careless.

[1545] There it is.

[1546] Hits him with the left, look at this.

[1547] Boom.

[1548] I mean, that's a picture perfect left hook to the body, but watch this.

[1549] He's in agony.

[1550] If Pete moves in, bam.

[1551] Damn.

[1552] I mean, that is a crazy right hand.

[1553] That's like round nine of Lang versus Balboa.

[1554] Looked him on the ground in agony afterwards.

[1555] Pete Selt couldn't even believe it happened.

[1556] Yeah, you should always faint before you move in.

[1557] Always.

[1558] Always.

[1559] Even if you think you got a guy hurt, give him one of those.

[1560] Yeah, just see us up.

[1561] Feats like this, like, oh, okay, okay, give me something.

[1562] Show me what you got going on.

[1563] I mean, the best guys, they never just charge.

[1564] Like Max Holloway, we finished off Aldo, it's just constant pressure, constant pressure.

[1565] But when he feels Aldo firing back, he's like, oh, I'll step back for a second.

[1566] Right back on you, baby.

[1567] Who's the best fainter?

[1568] Max Holloway's pretty goddamn good at it.

[1569] It seems like I just saw someone fighting the UFC or maybe Bellator that was like I always just fainting.

[1570] Wonderboy might get my vote for the best fainter.

[1571] Because Wonderboy also has, it's like what style fainting is most effective.

[1572] Wonderboy has an extra advantage of having that right leg forward or left leg forward whichever he chooses sideways stance with that long body of his that's a weird thing i've dealt with that man in the old martial arts days and taekwondo days it's the hardest thing to deal with those long guys that can have a that have a powerful front leg he just keeps you away you don't know what the fuck he's doing so he faints and then bam he comes in with the left hand or he faints and boom there's a roundhouse kick in your face i think he's the most of because he doesn't also he doesn't move like everybody else everybody else has like sort of a modified Taekwondo style or a Muay style rather except for the Taekwondo guys there's a few guys like even Connor Connor has more of a karate style a lot of the times he'll stand like to like when you see him fight Aldo he stood totally sideways yeah I mean he was he was bouncing back and forth back and forth like a karate fighter remember how Don the Dragon Wilson used to fight he used to just get up on one leg and just keep his left leg up and kind of flip it oh yeah just be on one leg and just keep the left leg all the way up.

[1573] Dude, I sparred with that guy once.

[1574] It's annoying, right?

[1575] He's very good at that.

[1576] He's very good at that.

[1577] He was real nice to me. He didn't try to hurt me. Too much energy?

[1578] Well, he was No, they just not good at it.

[1579] You could tie kick him.

[1580] You could tie kick him, right?

[1581] Dude, he's good at that, too.

[1582] If you watch Don Wilson's fight with Dennis Alexio, Don Wilson fucked Dennis Alexio up.

[1583] Back when Dennis Alexio didn't know about leg kicks.

[1584] Dennis Alexio wound up becoming one of the very best guys at leg kicks.

[1585] He was also one of the first guys I ever saw get his leg broken in a fight.

[1586] He fought Stan the man Langenetus and he had a grass skirt on.

[1587] From Australia.

[1588] He probably got their fucking knowledge.

[1589] And Stan Langenetus, he used to work with my friend Shuki.

[1590] Remember Shuki?

[1591] The Jewish.

[1592] Yeah, Israeli guy.

[1593] He was teaching me kickboxing back in the day.

[1594] His leg was all fucked up because he would hold pads for Stan Langenetus.

[1595] He had that big old tied leg pad at Haltes.

[1596] Like if you think some people, like if you see a guy who kicks real hard, right, The heavyweight world champion Muay Thai guys or tie boxer kickboxer guys Like a Stan Langeness The power they have on their kick is unfathomable Remember, I brought this up with you But you say it wasn't you I was at Beverly Hills Jiu -Jitsu once And we were watching Pedro Hizzo kick the bag And I was like, what?

[1597] Like you just think of one of those slamming into your thigh And you're like, there's no way, there's no way Shuki's whole leg was fucked up I'm holding the pad on one side He was going to need a hip replacement Damn.

[1598] Dude, imagine the guy kicks your leg while you're holding pads for him so hard you need a hip replacement.

[1599] What?

[1600] It was not worth it.

[1601] Don and Dragon Wilson beat Dennis Alexio with leg kicks, is my point.

[1602] But Don had that weird style.

[1603] He would stand totally sideways.

[1604] And he didn't take any chances.

[1605] He fought super intelligent.

[1606] He fought deep into his 40s too, man. He's an OG.

[1607] Yeah, yeah.

[1608] Don Wilson's a real OG.

[1609] I did commentary with him.

[1610] He was my partner.

[1611] in King of the Cage for maybe five or six shows, man, talk about the worst commentary ever.

[1612] Me and Don the Driving Rolls.

[1613] Oh, yeah.

[1614] Can you imagine, oh, no, commentary is just not, that's not my gig, man. I could do color, but being the play -by -play guy, that's just a whole, that's a whole different animal.

[1615] I did that once.

[1616] With Phil Barone.

[1617] Phil Barone was fucking hilarious.

[1618] It was the Miami show.

[1619] Yep, yep, we had a good time.

[1620] Was that the only UFC in Miami?

[1621] I think that was the only one ever, right?

[1622] Um, I don't know about that.

[1623] Is this Don the Dragon?

[1624] Don Wilson?

[1625] Who's he fighting here?

[1626] There he is.

[1627] Look at him in these red pants, man. Oh, it's him fighting Dennis Lexio, yeah.

[1628] See how he would just flip that thing out?

[1629] Everything was like light and flippy.

[1630] And they couldn't?

[1631] Yeah, they didn't know what to do with it.

[1632] They couldn't kick to the legs, right?

[1633] Oh, they could.

[1634] Oh, they could?

[1635] Yeah.

[1636] Oh, look at that side.

[1637] Yeah, no, they could.

[1638] See, he just kicked him in the leg right there.

[1639] Don Wilson fucked him up with leg kicks in this fight.

[1640] See, Dennis Lexioseo was trying to kick him.

[1641] the legs.

[1642] This is after what had happened was a lot of these guys like Don Wilson that had a traditional karate background, learned how to kickbox, they realized how potent leg kicks were.

[1643] A big factor was Rick the Jet Rufus, Duke Rufus's brother, who was one of, you know, the all -time best PCA style above the waist kickboxers.

[1644] Rick Rufus, when I was a kid, man, I wanted to be like Rick Rufus.

[1645] He would fight dudes sideways stance and just fucked him up, fuck them up.

[1646] with hook kicks and roundhouse kicks and dive in with punches like blitz karate style punches.

[1647] I mean, Rick Rufus was doing shit that nobody was doing.

[1648] And he fought this tie dude.

[1649] I do not remember the gentleman's name, but Duke Rufus brought it up on a podcast as being like a big transformation in his life.

[1650] Because that tie guy just chopped Rick down.

[1651] Just chopped those legs down.

[1652] They were like a mixed rules.

[1653] A little bit of Muay, a little bit of American kickbox.

[1654] And they allowed the leg kicks, but they didn't allow elbows or something like that.

[1655] They mixed it up.

[1656] and...

[1657] Like K -1?

[1658] Yes.

[1659] Here it is.

[1660] And Rufus...

[1661] What is it, the guy's name?

[1662] Yeah, the fight that...

[1663] Hold out.

[1664] Pause that real quick.

[1665] Changs Pueck Kiyat -Song -Grit.

[1666] Kiat -Song -Grit.

[1667] Chang -Pek -Tch -Grit.

[1668] And he had an okay record.

[1669] Duke was here.

[1670] Oh, well.

[1671] Yeah.

[1672] He had like more than 100 professional fights.

[1673] I mean, he was a world champion.

[1674] He wasn't an okay guy.

[1675] Yeah, he was really good.

[1676] Oh, okay.

[1677] He was a beast.

[1678] Okay, let's see what his...

[1679] He was fucking.

[1680] He was fucking him up with his hands, though.

[1681] Rick Rufus was fucking him up with his hands.

[1682] Had him hurt, had him almost knocked out a couple of times, but he kept landing those leg kicks.

[1683] And he didn't know about the leg kicks back then.

[1684] And he had to be carried off in a stretcher.

[1685] He couldn't fight because he couldn't walk.

[1686] Yeah.

[1687] His legs were gone.

[1688] Well, he didn't know what it was there.

[1689] So, I mean, this is like a long time ago.

[1690] He didn't understand, but he tagged him with some punches, man. Oh, yeah, he couldn't hang with his hands.

[1691] No, look at that.

[1692] Spinning back fist and the punch behind it.

[1693] Yeah, he was fucking him up.

[1694] He really wasn't.

[1695] A little by little, he was landing them leg kicks, a little bit.

[1696] That tie guy is, though, to take those shots and the bounce back.

[1697] One of the greatest fights ever in kickboxing history.

[1698] Just the fact that this is how Rick Rufus learned the power of Lakers.

[1699] Look at that fucking.

[1700] Go back there real quick.

[1701] Go back there.

[1702] That guy's almost out.

[1703] Go back.

[1704] Watch this.

[1705] Look at this move that he does.

[1706] He does that touch, jumping side kick, spinning wheel kick.

[1707] Hit him in the head.

[1708] Dude, out on his feet.

[1709] At the end of the bell, they sit him down in the corner.

[1710] Out on his feet.

[1711] Just keep playing this.

[1712] This is one of the greatest magicists of all time.

[1713] It's so historically significant in martial arts.

[1714] I mean, this is where they learned.

[1715] Yes.

[1716] This is where those American kickboxers, this is, this was an eye over.

[1717] This is like UFC one for kickboxing.

[1718] Dude, I remember the first time someone ever kicked me in the leg, and they didn't even do it hard.

[1719] They did it to show me, like how hard it is when you get kicked in the leg.

[1720] It was like a light bulb went off.

[1721] It went, oh, no. The first time I've ever heard of a leg kick, I was working at the strip club as a DJ, and one of the managers, was all into karate.

[1722] Tournament, you always said, I'd done tournament karate for 12 years.

[1723] Oh shit.

[1724] Look at this.

[1725] Dude, he's lighting them up with these leg kicks.

[1726] And then, look at that.

[1727] And he took me in the back one day and he goes, dude, stand there.

[1728] Let me kick you.

[1729] And he kicked me with a shin.

[1730] He goes, people are doing this now.

[1731] How does that feel?

[1732] Does he wasn't, she was experimenting on my leg?

[1733] Does this hurt?

[1734] They're landing with their shin.

[1735] And I'm like, damn, fuck.

[1736] That hurts a lot.

[1737] People are kicking with their shins.

[1738] That's weird.

[1739] Well, the crazy thing is when you feel it for like from someone who's just like tap in your leg how much it hurts now think of this dude whose name i can't pronounce again okay so rick would try to throw his own kick but his low kicks were like foot kicks they mean he was a foot kicker yeah he wasn't like a shin kicker back then like most karate guys were in -step kickers you would hit a guy with a roundhouse kick but you'd hit him in the body with your in -step you'd hit him in the head with your instep almost everything i ever did up until I started doing moitai was with my insteps or you heel you know like heel kicks wheel kicks stuff like that it's incredible that um americans didn't figure that out you know isn't that insane nobody had kicked him in the leg yet i mean this is crazy shit did he hit him with a punch on the way down back that up again real quick back just a just a hair look at this he goes down yeah he elbowed him in the back of the head holy shit dude show that again dude watch this again watch what happens he goes down and on the way down watch this boom see that elbow yeah yo dude no doubt dirty elbow to the back of the dome one more time please one more time please look at this down on its way down watch his left boom yeah he fucking cracked the back of his head with an elbow referee didn't even know what an elbow was that's an invalid technique continue you totally missed a punch landed with his elbow yeah he tried to land a punch but it's not going to take any points away because you didn't land dude he's fucking that right leg up south paw to south paw boom look at that made him switch stances look at that he's chopping him down dude you can't even imagine how bad this must hurt for rick rufus in the middle of this fight he doesn't know how to block these things he's taking one on the front leg one on the back leg he's just getting crushed i mean this is crazy he's going to cross the front where the dick is dude he's flat -footed now he can't take it boom he can't spin He can't spin.

[1740] Look at this.

[1741] Accompanied by a stomp.

[1742] He stomped him.

[1743] Oh, that stomped to the body was legit.

[1744] Oh, my God.

[1745] Damn.

[1746] They need to make a movie out of this.

[1747] This is crazy.

[1748] They should make a movie.

[1749] They should make a documentary about this.

[1750] From his point of view, from the boy, a poor Thai fighter.

[1751] Right.

[1752] And Rick Rufus is trying to get up.

[1753] Like make Rick Rufus the evil white guy.

[1754] He can't even move.

[1755] He can't even move.

[1756] He can't even move.

[1757] This is like, these guys are so important.

[1758] It's so important to our understanding because Rick Rufus was so good.

[1759] He was so good and he was doing movie shit on people.

[1760] Those jump roundhouse kick spinning hook kicks.

[1761] Look at this.

[1762] Round two.

[1763] I mean, he was doing some really wild shit and even landing it on this guy.

[1764] Like, he was fucking good.

[1765] He was a legit champion, no doubt about it.

[1766] But he just did not understand the low kick game yet.

[1767] And this was, it was so important for a guy.

[1768] Look at that.

[1769] He lands that high kick.

[1770] it was so important that a guy as good as him fought this guy so we know for sure it wasn't just that you know the Rick Rufus wasn't any good no Rick Rufus was fucking real good real good then too like he's getting crushed with those and this Thai guy's look at his open hands too look how he's moving forward just open hands he's all about protecting himself pushing off and low kicking look at his hands see his hand placement I mean that's crazy shit Look at that.

[1771] Boom, pushing off.

[1772] He's barely even trying to punch with him.

[1773] He's basically just using his hands to create space and distance and give Rick Rufus something to think about and to block the punches and the kick that Rufus throws and then boom, leg kicks.

[1774] He just leg kicks him to death.

[1775] Look at that.

[1776] He's not punching.

[1777] He's just leg kick, leg kick, hands up, hands up, leg kick.

[1778] That is crazy.

[1779] As soon as he stopped exchanging punches, he just started dominating the space and then slamming those leg kicks in.

[1780] Look at that.

[1781] Boom.

[1782] Fakes with the hand.

[1783] and across both thighs That's one of the most painful ones, man The ones across both thighs Ah Ah Dude Rob came in back when I was getting Coaching from him He tapped me Across the front of my thighs With his shin Just dunk Just tapped me My legs hurt all day This guy Wow Look that throw Holy shit Those ties can chuck each other Around too man Round three I posted a little clip Oh shit Look at that of a fight where they had didn't have they just wrapped up their hands they didn't have gloves and head butts were legal it's kickboxing where you could throw people and you could head butt did you see that clip no it didn't see it dude it's evil a guy head butts his opponent's standing up he just just spears his head right into and knocks the guy down just from a head butt and rufus like he only stands that one way most of the time too so that that front right leg is so vulnerable to that left outside kick because they're both south paw if ruk Look, Rick, see, now he's trying to switch up and he's putting his left leg forward because he's in so much pain.

[1784] Like, look when he walks back to his corner.

[1785] Dude, he could barely walk at the end of the third round.

[1786] Barely walked.

[1787] Was this in Thailand or was in the States?

[1788] I don't know where it was.

[1789] It looks that says Coors beer on the canvas.

[1790] I want to think it's in America.

[1791] And plus the way they're making him, he's wearing those pants, I got to think it's America.

[1792] Those pants look so stupid in comparison.

[1793] And also, Rick Rufus was also wearing pads on his feet.

[1794] Oh, shit.

[1795] How did he go down there?

[1796] Leg kick.

[1797] the leg kick.

[1798] Oh, can you rewind that, Jamie?

[1799] Look at the pads.

[1800] Look at the pads on his feet.

[1801] Okay, here.

[1802] Look at this.

[1803] How does he go down?

[1804] Boom.

[1805] That was just a leg kick.

[1806] Yeah, just low kick.

[1807] Caught him in the spin and just totally took his leg out.

[1808] And he's wearing those booties on the tops of his feet to like to protect the bones of his feet.

[1809] Because he's a foot kicker.

[1810] See what I'm saying?

[1811] Like that's extra weight.

[1812] You're wearing extra four ounces or whatever the fuck it is on your feet.

[1813] It slows your kicks down.

[1814] And the tie guy just has taped up ankles and shorts on.

[1815] It's really interesting because it's really he is like kickboxing versus Muay Thai, boom he chops the leg again boom he chops the leg again.

[1816] Look at this Rick Rufus is in so much danger here I mean he's basically just totally helpless and this tie guy's going across the shins he's going across the if he's blocking with his knee he doesn't give a fuck he's just kicking through him everything boom look at that boom look at that he's just walking him down he's trying to hide that?

[1817] Terrifying?

[1818] Dude boom and then another one you know how terrifying that must be to have that guy walk you down like that hands out they called it they called the fight I think is that J .T. Will the referee is a famous referee who got was in like all those karate that's Dick that's Duke right there no that's not Jake T. Will that's a Duke right there telling everybody that he didn't think that it took a lot of skill to kick someone's legs I think you know that Rick should have won the fight he had the guy the big historical listen to this though it's the way the cookie crumbles tonight just take a look at the monitor down here, Jeff, and see if you can show what you're talking about these lake kids.

[1819] He became like the man. Look at this.

[1820] Bam.

[1821] There, you know, he's his buck on his knees.

[1822] It's the same type of injury that ends a football player's career.

[1823] You know, I don't think it takes much talent to kick somebody in the legs.

[1824] As you saw those jumping.

[1825] What's crazy now?

[1826] Because he's all about legs.

[1827] Yeah.

[1828] Real talent.

[1829] Well, what's crazy is.

[1830] I mean, Duke, I think, was only 19 at the time, you know.

[1831] And he's changed, he's learned.

[1832] And one of the reasons why he's so good.

[1833] because he's open -minded.

[1834] But he became a world champion Muay Thai fighter himself, which is crazy.

[1835] It's just like Jiu -Jitsu and leg locks.

[1836] You know what I mean?

[1837] It's just like that.

[1838] Like, ah, that doesn't take any tail and you're just jumping on a guy's leg.

[1839] Dude, all martial arts techniques that are effective.

[1840] There's still people that don't believe in certain techniques.

[1841] And another big moment for Muay in the history that martial art was Paul Varlens versus Marco Houaz.

[1842] That's when we saw.

[1843] It was UFC 7.

[1844] That's when we saw the damn because before UFC 7 everybody was thinking okay you can't really do any kind of striking you you have to learn jutsu or you will lose it's going to be real people were just losing faith and striking all together like just work on um uh it it was almost like jabs didn't even work back that like who throws a jab in mMA you're going to get taken down and get choked out and UFC 7 that's when we learn okay leg kick work you got to learn leg kick you got to learn All of Varlane's was 300 pounds.

[1845] Yeah, that changed everything.

[1846] Yeah.

[1847] Barlins was huge.

[1848] The polar bear they'd call him.

[1849] That guy was gigantic.

[1850] Marco Huas just took his legs out.

[1851] And then Marco Huas, he also beat Remcoe Pardue, that judo champion.

[1852] You remember?

[1853] He mounted him and then Remko tapped.

[1854] He goes, it's over.

[1855] Once you get them out, it's over.

[1856] Isn't that crazy?

[1857] That's what he thought.

[1858] That is what he thought.

[1859] Isn't that crazy?

[1860] Look at this.

[1861] Marco Huas would get heel hooks on people and shit.

[1862] Who's he fighting here?

[1863] Larry Curitton.

[1864] Yeah, he gets him in a heel hook right here.

[1865] This, I think this was the first heel hook in the UFC.

[1866] Might have been, if it wasn't him, it was, oh, that's amazing.

[1867] Oh, wait a minute.

[1868] Wait a minute.

[1869] Maybe Ken Shamrock against Patrick Smith.

[1870] Yes.

[1871] I don't know if that was a heel hook.

[1872] It was an ankle hook.

[1873] That was just, straight ankle lock?

[1874] Was that an ankle lock or a heel hook?

[1875] Yeah, Ken probably had the first ever leg lock.

[1876] And then I was going to say Oleg Taktok.

[1877] Didn't Oleg get some heel hooks?

[1878] He got a knee bar and a straight ankle lock, I think.

[1879] Hmm.

[1880] Old school, son.

[1881] Oh, is that like some kind of M -M -A -show reviewing old fights?

[1882] Man. Oh, there's Mokahua.

[1883] King of the streets, baby.

[1884] Can you find Paul Varland?

[1885] It's V -A -R -Varolins.

[1886] You ever talk to Eric Apple about his old days sparring with Marco?

[1887] They would spar Brazilian style, which is get ready for concussions.

[1888] It's just, it didn't matter if you get your nose broken, get back in there.

[1889] Like, everybody was just going to war.

[1890] Yeah.

[1891] Yeah, that's what, you know, everyone was scared of death back in the early days when I was a white belt.

[1892] You hear about Half Gracie School up in, it's Paul Varland's versus Marco Huas.

[1893] That's Paul Varland's fighting.

[1894] It looks like in a pre -UFC fight or maybe after his UFC career.

[1895] He was a big fella.

[1896] Was it trap fighting?

[1897] I don't know.

[1898] Something like that.

[1899] It was trapped.

[1900] Yeah.

[1901] I think you're right.

[1902] There it is right there at the top.

[1903] It's the UFC fight.

[1904] He wore a singlet.

[1905] Remember?

[1906] He wore a wrestling singlet.

[1907] Yeah.

[1908] Like, look.

[1909] He's six, seven.

[1910] Can you, this big fella.

[1911] Can you wear those singlets anymore?

[1912] You can't, right?

[1913] No. Why not?

[1914] It's a good question.

[1915] Girls can.

[1916] Well, it actually looks like he's got different colors on, or is that the monitor.

[1917] So he's a tank top.

[1918] He's a tank top on.

[1919] He's fighting with a tank top on.

[1920] It's not even a singlet.

[1921] Right?

[1922] It looks like a singlet.

[1923] A little bit, but doesn't look like different colors.

[1924] Well, maybe you're right.

[1925] Maybe it's just, we're seeing his legs in a deer.

[1926] Yeah, probably is a single.

[1927] Go to the last minute of the fight.

[1928] The last minute of the fight, that's where he chops him down.

[1929] He just chopped him down there with the first one.

[1930] Boom.

[1931] He's so much smaller than him.

[1932] Look how small Marco is in comparison.

[1933] Marco's a big guy.

[1934] Boom.

[1935] See, Paul Violins doesn't have any idea what to do here.

[1936] So he just keeps kicking back.

[1937] Oh, he just touched his leg.

[1938] He just, oh, there it is right.

[1939] The boom.

[1940] Oh, chopped him down.

[1941] You're fucks now, son.

[1942] Yeah.

[1943] And Marco just got on top of him and dropped hammers on him.

[1944] Boom, boom.

[1945] No gloves.

[1946] Damn, dude.

[1947] Old school.

[1948] Yeah, after that everyone started to train and leg kicks.

[1949] Firmly believe we need to go back to no gloves.

[1950] Firmly believe.

[1951] I can't emphasize it enough.

[1952] I think people would get less hurt.

[1953] I think it'd be more realistic.

[1954] You gotta have Rogan fighting championships on an Indian reservation.

[1955] I don't think it makes sense.

[1956] I mean, I'm beating a dead horse.

[1957] I know I'm a broken record.

[1958] I just don't think it makes sense to tape your wrists up.

[1959] Your wrists are very vulnerable.

[1960] You shouldn't be able to just make a cast out of them and slam them.

[1961] into things.

[1962] I feel the same way about your ankles.

[1963] Like, imagine if you could tape your wrists up to the point where nobody or your ankle up to a point where nobody could ever get you in a footlock because your ankle was protected.

[1964] That would be ridiculous, right?

[1965] Well, essentially when you get someone in a wrist lock, what are you doing?

[1966] You're pulling against the wrist.

[1967] Well, is that a valid technique?

[1968] Okay, a valid technique like a wrist lock like this, very hard to do when someone's wrist is tape the fuck up.

[1969] When your wrist is really right over here, it goes all over your knuckles, it goes all around your wrist.

[1970] It goes all around your wrist.

[1971] It makes it much more stable.

[1972] You can really dig into things.

[1973] It feels way better.

[1974] It feels way better to hit things.

[1975] Because when you don't, especially like my hand is bigger than my wrist.

[1976] So if I hit things on either side, it'll be like more wobbly.

[1977] Yeah.

[1978] You want that bitch taped up, you know?

[1979] Solid.

[1980] Yeah.

[1981] And even if your hand is the exact same size as your wrist, man, it's just, this is a joint that is super articulating.

[1982] Look at this wrist.

[1983] I mean, look at all the stuff your wrist does.

[1984] Your wrist is crazy.

[1985] If you really think about joints, it's the only joint like it.

[1986] Your knees don't do that shit.

[1987] I guess your shoulders are kind of crazy.

[1988] But your wrists, when you're punching, you would have to develop some serious strength in your forearms to be able to be a really effective bare -knuckle.

[1989] I mean, truly bare -knuckle.

[1990] No wraps in your hands, no nothing, just truly bare -knuckle.

[1991] You would also learn that you must punch things with the top knuckles.

[1992] You have to, and even then you could break them.

[1993] But if you start hitting people in the jaw, like right there, with this crack this fucking thing is just going to break hit something in the forehead right here crack it's going to break you're going to break them you get elbows break them for sure you're going to break them but with those gloves on you get away with that shit you can get away with that shit and you could you could pity pack guys you could do that more and just not even like try to find like specific spots just start hitting them you can't do that you have to make sure you're getting the soft tissue you got to target soft tissue you got to look for the jaw bang It appears to the public to be more brutal, right?

[1994] If you don't, right?

[1995] Listen, man, all you need to do is watch anybody kick somebody.

[1996] Just think the fact that we let someone slam their fucking shin into some dude's face.

[1997] That is, watch Jeremy Stevens when Jeremy Stevens fought honey jason.

[1998] What's his name?

[1999] Honey Jason.

[2000] Remember Honey Jason?

[2001] Yeah, I remember.

[2002] Jeremy Stevens, Honey Jason?

[2003] It is like the head kick to end all head kicks.

[2004] Damn, I don't remember it.

[2005] Oh, pull that shit up.

[2006] You guys aren't allowed to pull up, like...

[2007] UFC footage?

[2008] I wish we could.

[2009] We should have a special exemption from the UFC.

[2010] What about Fight Pass?

[2011] Like, maybe promote Fight Pass.

[2012] Every time you use it, that would be a great way to promote it, right?

[2013] They would let us show.

[2014] They sent me a thing one time.

[2015] Like, they reached out and said, like, here's an account, but then they never responded.

[2016] And I was like, okay, let me have it and then whatever.

[2017] It would be a great way to promote it, right?

[2018] Yeah, I'll talk to the UFC.

[2019] I'll try to see what we can get done.

[2020] If on your show, you could talk about fights and have no issues with pulling up, Fight Pass.

[2021] Right, right, right.

[2022] That would be huge for them That would And it's free Yeah They don't pay me for this And that's how people Would do it At home They'd be hanging out With their friends Going fuck Remember that one fight Put it on Find it Are you coming to New York This weekend anyway?

[2023] Come to New York No Because I gotta be there The next week Anyways I gotta go to Brooklyn again The following weekend For Geo is fighting Gordon Ryan's brother Mickey Ryan Oh shit That's gonna be amazing It's gonna be awesome Man Those guys are awesome I love the level of jujitsu That's available Right now It's insane right man It's better than ever.

[2024] Way better than ever.

[2025] I mean, the level of just the purple belts these days would destroy purple belts of like eight years ago.

[2026] It's amazing.

[2027] It's crazy.

[2028] And it keeps going up and up too.

[2029] And like I was watching some videos today online.

[2030] Instagram's huge.

[2031] The loop, when you watch a technique and you could just watch it over and over again, that makes, that accelerates the learning process so much.

[2032] I was watching a clip today.

[2033] I watched like 15 times in a row.

[2034] It was cybor.

[2035] doing that tornado guard pass on some big giant dude Cyborg BJJ I think is this thing he hit this giant dude with that tornado sweep you know he does like he gets under you and spins and rolls over very very interesting to watch how he hits it.

[2036] Very few people can do that He's so strong but that's what his post was about his post is about technique and strength is that like your technique is like the steering wheel but your strength is the engine yes I believe that I believe that too I mean, every top pro athlete has a serious strength and conditioning program.

[2037] Look at Gordon Ryan's body.

[2038] Yeah.

[2039] Look at that kid's body.

[2040] That kid's a gorilla.

[2041] You know, it's not a coincidence that he's jacked as fuck and has awesome technique and tap cyborg.

[2042] Yeah.

[2043] And think about how good cyborg is.

[2044] And then think about him tap and cyborg and tapped him pretty handy.

[2045] Look at that sweet, man. Boom.

[2046] That was Orlando Sanchez, too.

[2047] That guy weighs 300 pounds.

[2048] Exactly.

[2049] Damn.

[2050] That's why it's crazy.

[2051] That's way crazy.

[2052] Look how big this is.

[2053] Look at the sweep.

[2054] Look at the sweep.

[2055] Look at the sweep.

[2056] He gets his foot in between the legs and then he pushes the hip with his hand.

[2057] That's one of the greatest sweeps of all time.

[2058] Of all time.

[2059] Of all time.

[2060] Holy shit.

[2061] Look at that.

[2062] So he gets under his right arm.

[2063] He's using his foot and he tucks them under and pushes him.

[2064] I'd like to know what the, I'd like to know where the left hand is at.

[2065] Left hands on the hip.

[2066] Watch how he rolls.

[2067] When he rolls him, watch, see his left hand.

[2068] See his right hands on top of the left hand.

[2069] See it on the hip?

[2070] Pushing?

[2071] Where on the hip, though?

[2072] It looks like it's right here.

[2073] It looks like it's right here.

[2074] He probably's just getting anything that he can that's flat.

[2075] If you look at the way, what, what, what's, look at his left hamstring has got to be so strong.

[2076] Oh, dude, he's a gorilla.

[2077] That left hamstring.

[2078] Insane, right?

[2079] But it's not even just a hamstring because he looks to me like his foot sideways.

[2080] And watch when he does it again.

[2081] Look, his foot is sideways like a sidekick.

[2082] Look.

[2083] Look at that.

[2084] I mean, it's like he's going against the inside of the leg.

[2085] This is what's even crazier.

[2086] The strain is like the abdomen.

[2087] he's going like this way and then look at look at his left leg blocking dude's left arm yep or his right leg I'm sorry the right leg right leg yeah it's amazing yeah and that guy he just swept is an ADCC gold medalist and he's 300 pounds and he's a really good wrestler he's a blackbell jiu jihitsu that right there that should just leave that on a loop at a school yeah you know what I mean well cyborg's a gorilla he's got an amazing you ever see his strength and conditioning routines?

[2088] No. That motherfucker doesn't play, dude.

[2089] He's a gorilla.

[2090] He's a gorilla.

[2091] All the top guys.

[2092] Oh, yeah.

[2093] You got to.

[2094] I just saw Andrew Galvao doing deadlis.

[2095] Today, he's doing deadlips in his garage.

[2096] Hey, let me ask you this.

[2097] Is it better to just let the deadlift?

[2098] I was going to ask you, because of that, when he deadlifted, he drops it go.

[2099] Is that the best way to do it?

[2100] You tell me, I don't know shit.

[2101] I don't know shit either.

[2102] Yeah.

[2103] I would always think that the negatives are important.

[2104] I mean, negatives for me are very important.

[2105] Like, for chin ups, I go way slower.

[2106] going down.

[2107] It seems like every six months there's a whole new philosophy on strength and it's totally the opposite of the last one.

[2108] It's so crazy.

[2109] Like now the big thing is, you know, with intermittent fasting, it's like okay, there's all these diets and eat this and gluten that and all this.

[2110] And then now the new diet is don't eat for 18 hours.

[2111] I know.

[2112] Isn't that crazy?

[2113] That is a big...

[2114] Dude, that shit works.

[2115] You know what's great about that is it makes you have a time every day where you're going to have the most fabulous meal ever.

[2116] Because when I eat, I'm starving.

[2117] And salads taste so good.

[2118] Like, oh, I want a big kid.

[2119] You have a double salad?

[2120] Yeah.

[2121] And when you're not that hungry, now I feel like if I'm not that hungry, I don't want to waste a meal because it's so much better when you're starving and you're out of control.

[2122] I eat that way most of the time, except on days when I know I have a really brutal workout in the morning, like a weightlifting workout.

[2123] I'll run fasted I'll do yoga fasted But if I'm gonna lift I want to have something I need some fruit or something It's almost three right now I haven't eaten at all Yeah I'm fine Fine You know it's a It's a interesting diet I hope it isn't bullshit No it's definitely not bullshit I was never a morning person either Like I never I never really looked forward to breakfast It was always at I'd have like a protein bar Or something just because I had to Did you ever listen to my podcast I did with Dom de Augustino?

[2124] He's a scientist from, I think he's University of Florida.

[2125] But a ketogenic specialist does a lot of keto research and research on fasting and the benefits of fasting.

[2126] He goes into the scientific benefits, the proven benefits of fasting.

[2127] Very, very interesting stuff.

[2128] What were the most?

[2129] I would really want to direct you to that.

[2130] I want to fuck it up.

[2131] But it's for prevention of cancer.

[2132] Really?

[2133] Yeah, ketone bodies in the blood increase.

[2134] cognitive improvements.

[2135] I just think we eat too much.

[2136] I just think we eat too much.

[2137] We eat all the time.

[2138] It's so easy.

[2139] I like watching TV and snacking.

[2140] You know, I like watch a little Netflix.

[2141] We all do.

[2142] But if I'm watching Netflix and it's 9 o 'clock at night, I really shouldn't be eating anything.

[2143] Isn't it weird that popcorn became the official food for watching movies?

[2144] Isn't that weird?

[2145] I know.

[2146] It's loud, chewing shit.

[2147] You can't hear dialogue.

[2148] No one likes this.

[2149] Hey, dude, let's go get some popcorn.

[2150] No one ever looks for popcorn and looks.

[2151] less they're at the movies.

[2152] That's a good point.

[2153] It's the only time.

[2154] It's not that good.

[2155] Maybe at Disneyland because it's like, yeah, I forgot about popcorn.

[2156] Fucking buy that while I'm here, too.

[2157] Other than that, like the circus.

[2158] It's just the movies, circus.

[2159] Circus is popcorn.

[2160] Circus got peanuts into the mix.

[2161] Maybe there's something about the popcorn that, like, it's like genetically modified, and it's like, it helps with the brainwashing.

[2162] Just the popcorn, it opens you up.

[2163] It's microwave, dude.

[2164] That's what it is.

[2165] They microwave the kernels and it fucks with the, your head, bro.

[2166] Dude, you know, basically microwaves just kill everything, right?

[2167] When you microwave your food, you basically just don't have anything.

[2168] It's just like, yeah, there's nothing survives on microwave, right?

[2169] Isn't it crazy that we haven't really improved upon microwaves?

[2170] Like, they mastered that shit 40 years ago, and it's still the same goddamn microwaves.

[2171] You know what's really bad for you and they're going to take out of microwave popcorn?

[2172] When you get microwave popcorn, there's fats in there that your body just doesn't know what the fuck to do with.

[2173] That's why those things can sit on a shelf for so long.

[2174] those little packets.

[2175] I think what is it, what is the toxic ingredient in microwave popcorn that they're eliminating?

[2176] It's hilarious.

[2177] They decided, oh, this shit kills you, but we're going to let you sell it for two more years.

[2178] They didn't just make it illegal.

[2179] They made a moratorium.

[2180] I think it's trans fats.

[2181] I think it just might be vegetable oil fats.

[2182] There's certain, certain trans fats that are just, your body's just like, what in the fuck is this non -food?

[2183] Yeah.

[2184] You're making me eat.

[2185] yeah we're talking about delicious protein bars before the show that give you the most unbelievable farts oh that's how i know i shouldn't be eating something yeah if i'm if i'm eating something and i'm just lighten the inside of my car on fire chemical here it is chemicals use the lining of microwavable popcorn bags including puphloroic tononic acid or pfoa are part of a class of compounds that may be linked to infertility and human according to their recent study from UCLA and animal testing the chemicals caused liver cancer testicular cancer and pancreatic cancer so that's one thing but I know that they ban trans fats I might have conflated the two stories did because what is the ban of trans fats is the one where they're giving them like all the like hostess cakes those bullshit cakes that sit on a shelf forever oh ding -dongs are my favorite those things those those pop those pie cakes that you get from hostess like the lemon filling.

[2186] Those are just trans fats to the gills, son.

[2187] And then the whole Twinkie myth that they last 20 years or whatever.

[2188] I mean, do people eat Twinkies still?

[2189] Like, who's eating Twinkies?

[2190] You and I were laying around, fucking bored, smoked a little weed, watching some TV.

[2191] And I'm so hungry.

[2192] What do you got here, man?

[2193] Twinkies are like terrible.

[2194] And I opened up your cabinet and twinkies.

[2195] I might grab a Twinkie.

[2196] Yeah, if I'm starving.

[2197] Just laying around.

[2198] Yeah.

[2199] Watch the TV.

[2200] Chilling.

[2201] I might eat a Twinkie.

[2202] Twinkies are like the worst wedding cake.

[2203] It's just.

[2204] Well, you know what I have?

[2205] had last night I had strawberry shortcake.

[2206] U .S. popcorn makers could face long, expensive road to lose trans fats.

[2207] Oh, okay.

[2208] This is why I conflated it.

[2209] Microw popcorn makers could face a long and difficult task ridding their snacks of trans fats U .S. food and drug administration proposal to ban the additive goes into effect.

[2210] So the U .S. is banning.

[2211] So the U .S. ban on trans fats is what I got confused with.

[2212] Isn't it crazy?

[2213] That U .S. ban on trans fats is like, They're giving these people like two years.

[2214] Isn't it crazy that they're making a big deal out of this?

[2215] They're going after the trans fats, but they don't go after like, like real shit.

[2216] Like alcohol is like killing people all day, every day.

[2217] I know, right?

[2218] It's like you say, why don't you say, hey, this is going to kill you if you keep eating it.

[2219] Yeah.

[2220] But it's awesome.

[2221] But you're going after trans fats.

[2222] Maybe it's like someone in the popcorn industry just pissed off in an Illuminati member.

[2223] You don't want to go after them.

[2224] And this is just like a smear campaign.

[2225] Well, trans fats, like people need to.

[2226] They know they're bad for you.

[2227] Once they know they're bad for you, shouldn't be able to just take them?

[2228] What about that one drug that everyone's getting addicted to that's legal?

[2229] Adderall?

[2230] No, it's like heroin.

[2231] It's...

[2232] Morphine?

[2233] Fentanyl?

[2234] No, no. Methodone.

[2235] Very popular prescription.

[2236] Oxycon.

[2237] Oxycon.

[2238] Oh.

[2239] Oxycontin, for sure, fucks your life up.

[2240] 100%.

[2241] But if you have serious pain, it also alleviates pain.

[2242] And the thing is, can you can you, can you?

[2243] You just ride it for a few days.

[2244] And they're going after trans fats here?

[2245] It's crazy.

[2246] Let them have their popcorn.

[2247] Fuck it.

[2248] They're making like news articles about it.

[2249] We're going after trans fat.

[2250] What about the 800 kids that go missing every year?

[2251] What about, why don't you go look for them?

[2252] Well, there's a different, different people.

[2253] Go look for them.

[2254] Okay, that's true, but these are different people.

[2255] These are food scientists.

[2256] Yeah.

[2257] But I think the point is that this stuff, that there's other ways to make food.

[2258] But the thing is, I don't know.

[2259] What is the benefits of trans fats?

[2260] Does it make processing easier?

[2261] Like, why do they use that?

[2262] as opposed to like other healthy fats I don't know why it probably has something to do with shelf life maybe yes probably that's probably why it fucks you up too you got to think about what a preservative is you know like someone was explaining did you see what's wrong with wheat or what's with wheat did you see that documentary maybe they were talking about roundup and glyphosate and they were talking about how round up this stuff that they spray on some plants that they said well don't worry this only affects bacteria yeah and so 50s they said that well this when they were creating it, and this is one of the reasons why they allowed it to be used, but what they're explaining in this documentary, I don't know if this is true or not, but what they were explaining was, yeah, you have bacteria in your body, dummy, like you're taking the stuff into your body, they didn't say it that way, you have bacteria in your body, you're taking the stuff into your body that only kills bacteria.

[2263] It's going to kill a part of your body.

[2264] Like, your body is partly bacteria.

[2265] In fact, there's more bacteria cells in your body than there are human cells.

[2266] That's just a fact of being a person.

[2267] So this is a crazy thing that they don't know that.

[2268] And they either know it and they did it anyway or they didn't know that in which the case what you were saying earlier, they should have no business telling people what's the good science and the bad science.

[2269] If they allowed that to go through.

[2270] Yeah, it's another example of bad science.

[2271] Yeah.

[2272] Well, it's definitely an example of maybe they didn't know when they first came up with the stuff.

[2273] Yeah.

[2274] But as technology has advanced, they haven't eliminated it.

[2275] Either way, whether they didn't know or they did know and it was a diabolical plan.

[2276] Whatever it is, it's just, it's, that science is bogus.

[2277] Yeah, but should you be allowed, like, we know Diet Coke's terrible for you.

[2278] Should you be allowed to sell Diet Coke?

[2279] If you want, but does most, do most people know how bad Diet Coke is for you?

[2280] Or Diet soda, I should say.

[2281] Do most people know?

[2282] Most people don't.

[2283] Most people don't.

[2284] They don't know.

[2285] Most people are hypnotized.

[2286] I'll have a Diet Coke every now and again, once a month or so.

[2287] Yeah.

[2288] I've been pretty good at keeping sodas out my life.

[2289] That I discovered the Pellegrino.

[2290] Mm, yeah.

[2291] Pellegrino's great.

[2292] Just water with a little sparkles in.

[2293] I love it.

[2294] It's delicious.

[2295] No, I used to struggle with being at a restaurant and struggling with, should I just drink water or can I get a fuck and I'm going to have a Coke?

[2296] And then I have two Cokes and then I feel guilty all night.

[2297] That struggle went on my whole life.

[2298] Dude, I've been drinking way too much water.

[2299] But Pellegrino?

[2300] The Pellegrino, that imperier, that satisfies me. enough.

[2301] Yeah, Zivia is a good one too.

[2302] And there's a couple other, like, flavored waters.

[2303] They're like more mild.

[2304] Is carbonated water?

[2305] La Craw.

[2306] The Claw.

[2307] The Cua.

[2308] Is Pellegrino carbonated water?

[2309] Is that bad for you?

[2310] Is that going to, is it going to come out that?

[2311] We get cancer from that.

[2312] Are the bubbles fucking me up?

[2313] Yeah.

[2314] They are.

[2315] What?

[2316] What?

[2317] Shit.

[2318] What do they do?

[2319] The bubbles are?

[2320] It's just as bad as soda water is.

[2321] I mean, it's just not good for your teeth.

[2322] It is soda water.

[2323] I mean, isn't Pellegrino is soda water.

[2324] It's the same thing.

[2325] Carbonated water is bad for your teeth.

[2326] teeth and mass amounts I mean like one or two probably not a bad thing so what what about in your once it gets in your stomach do the bubbles do the bubbles like fuck you up gas illuminati bro they're all ideas those those ideas in those bubbles getting you to like well buy into bonds yeah who knows who knows maybe they find out that the bubbles in your system do something a bad for you yeah right I mean I wouldn't be surprised I hope not shit I hope it's completely benign to I think we have heard about it.

[2327] I drink the shit out of it.

[2328] I do too.

[2329] Here, along as it's plain carbonated water with no added citric acid or sugar, the answer is no. The process of carbonation is a simple addition of pasteurized, pressurized carbon dioxide gas into plain water.

[2330] Acid, sugars, and salt are not being added.

[2331] It's the addition of those ingredients that ups your risk for tooth decay.

[2332] So there's no harm at all.

[2333] So it's just carbonated water is just carbon dioxide gas.

[2334] Or maybe that's an Illuminati.

[2335] Dude, stop freaking me out, man. Did you know that fungus is fucking like mushrooms?

[2336] They breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide like we do.

[2337] Does that make it make it good?

[2338] It's like an animal more than it is like a plant.

[2339] They're closer to animals and they are to plants.

[2340] Fungus.

[2341] Yeah, fungus are like an animal almost.

[2342] Not really because it doesn't move.

[2343] I mean, but it's closer to the animal kingdom.

[2344] Ringer moves.

[2345] Yeah.

[2346] That gets bigger.

[2347] That makes a shit.

[2348] Yeah.

[2349] Fuck that fungus.

[2350] That's the worst, man. That's the worst.

[2351] but like mushrooms are there's some sort of other thing they're not a plant fungus is a different kind of thing it's from another fucking planet man that's what I think you think mushrooms aren't legal right they're not there's not recreational mushrooms right it's coming California any states already legalized mushrooms no but they should they should do it the same way they do what they're going to eventually do with MDMA look mushrooms are great so remember the first time You remember the first time you and I did mushrooms, right?

[2352] Do you remember the first time you and I did mushrooms?

[2353] You were living at your old house.

[2354] We were chilling in the backyard, dude.

[2355] We didn't do that much, though.

[2356] Yeah, yeah.

[2357] It wasn't that much.

[2358] It was a small dose.

[2359] Yeah.

[2360] But it was enough to go, whoa, like it just gave me a better perspective.

[2361] It just opened up my mind, too, that I was relying on all the patterns that had been explained to me about life to be correct.

[2362] Instead of, like, looking at it with fresh eyes, I felt like at 30, years old it was the first time i was able to look at my my life with fresh eyes look at life itself and go oh this is just this weird temporary experience you could see it in your comedy too your comedy just you know from from the early joe rogan like your first cd somebody someday i'm gonna be dead right i'm gonna be dead someday i'm gonna be dead someday i'm gonna be dead someday from that comedy to the once you started getting into psychedelics big oh difference yeah changes who you are because well it also makes you super humble because even if i don't appear humble When you get hit by that the big dose, whatever it is, DMT or whatever you do, when you get hit by that dose, you realize you're just a part.

[2363] You're not the big thing.

[2364] It is a part of something that is indescribably big.

[2365] And the idea that you're important or that you're the most significant thing around you is pretty ridiculous.

[2366] You've got to do your best to keep your body alive and do your best to do your part and whatever the fuck you do for a living, do your best at that.

[2367] but you're just a part of something that's infinite.

[2368] Did your experience with mushrooms and DMT, did that make you think, like, there's got to be a creator to all this?

[2369] Not that there's a creator, like a guy in a lab that's like making a person inside of a fucking test tube or some shit.

[2370] Not a creator in a sense of an individual, but I think that the idea of an individual became more ridiculous than anything.

[2371] It's like I understand that, like, what we are is almost like something filtered through these predetermined like almost like we're a membrane like something from another dimension expresses itself through this physical membrane and then we're almost like the barrier to what comes out on the other side that this is the thought that I had when I was on mushrooms that what we are as as a person is almost like the carrier like a vehicle for whatever a soul is and then this thing uses this life to pass that, that thing through onto another experience that happens in the next dimension that'll be so fucking alien that you can't even imagine it today in this dimension.

[2372] And this dimension would be alien to that dimension.

[2373] That it was just this never -ending infinite process of soul traveling.

[2374] I had this very bizarre, like, thought about, like, if you, like, people will often say, like, if you had to live your life over again, you were born again tomorrow, you've got to do it all over again.

[2375] Could you do it?

[2376] You'd be like, what?

[2377] What?

[2378] Oh, my God.

[2379] I got to start over from scratch.

[2380] I've got to be a baby again and rely on those same fucking people again.

[2381] Oh, my God.

[2382] I've got to go back to first grade.

[2383] That was terrible.

[2384] And that's when my parents broke up.

[2385] And, oh, and people start freaking out and thinking, but you already did it.

[2386] You already did it.

[2387] What if you have to do it forever.

[2388] Could you do it forever and ever and ever over and over and over and over again?

[2389] Could you do that?

[2390] Like reincarnation?

[2391] You might be doing that.

[2392] That might be just as possible.

[2393] What would hit me is just as possible that you've lived this life.

[2394] an infinite number of times.

[2395] And you will continue to live this life an infinite number of times.

[2396] And when you do, maybe, so you're saying there's a possibility that we have some kind of soul type thing, right?

[2397] I think it's a possibility that you're on a loop.

[2398] Yeah.

[2399] Just like those YouTube videos or those Instagram videos, a cyborg hitting that sweep, and we're on a life loop.

[2400] So if there is a loop and let's say either it's involuntary or voluntary.

[2401] Either you say either when you die, you wake up and you're like, whoa, that was an awesome ride.

[2402] Let's do it again.

[2403] Or it just happens automatically.

[2404] I don't think you get the choice.

[2405] Either way.

[2406] Maybe you do, maybe you don't.

[2407] Some spiritual gurus say that, yes, some people choose, some souls choose to keep coming back.

[2408] Some stay in the infinite heavens forever or whatever.

[2409] And then come back every now and then.

[2410] Who knows what's real?

[2411] But you're talking about there's some kind of soul thing.

[2412] And there's either, you're saying that there's probably involuntary reincarnation of some sort.

[2413] Yeah.

[2414] Right?

[2415] So maybe, maybe either if you decide to come back, for sure, if that's the case, you would say, okay, I'm going back into that earth realm and you for sure don't want to know where you came from.

[2416] It would seem, I'm guessing, that the beauty of life is, after you die and you realize what the hell, oh, that's right.

[2417] You don't want to know.

[2418] It's like watching a movie.

[2419] Like the other day I watched a movie and I'm watching the trailer and 30 seconds into the trailer is insane the movie.

[2420] 30 seconds, I stopped it because I didn't want to watch the rest of the trailer because now, okay, I got enough.

[2421] I want to see this thing.

[2422] I didn't want to see more of the trailer because I wanted to go to the movie and be fool.

[2423] I didn't want to know what was going on.

[2424] I wanted to be confused.

[2425] I didn't want to be able to figure something out from a trailer.

[2426] And most people are like that.

[2427] I'm not special.

[2428] Like if you went to a movie and you already saw it and your buddy didn't and you told them how it ended he would sock you right in the chest what the fuck you do and you just ruin the movie for me you faggot you know what I mean strong words but I mean that I don't mean that in a homosexual way I'm sorry I'm just trying to be funny and I apologize to all gay people out there I apologize I love gay people I love gay people um that was just me trying to express an emotion but and no one's also at the same time going to go to a movie with you if you already saw and say dude before it starts tell me the whole movie I think a better analogy is that you never get a chance to see the future you're not going to get a chance to see the future once you're reborn again This life when you come back, do you want to have a memory of your past?

[2429] You don't.

[2430] You don't get a chance.

[2431] It's a part of the system, I think.

[2432] Yeah, I think it's, whether it's voluntary or involuntary, it's best to not know where you came from at first.

[2433] It's best to figure it out.

[2434] That's probably what this is all about is figuring it out.

[2435] Because when we go to the movie, part of it is it's all about the journey.

[2436] It's not about the destination.

[2437] People always use that as, you know, on Instagram.

[2438] It's not about the journey.

[2439] Or it's not about the destination.

[2440] It's the journey.

[2441] That's one of the most popular sayings ever And it's beautiful You have to say it every now and then to remind you Remind people Another thing to remind you Don't even think about it as a journey Just be in the moment Accept the moment and be in the moment Live in the moment Think about the future Plan for the future But exist in the moment You know don't think of it as a journey Or as destination But the people that are the most fucked Are the people that are trying to make it One day I'm gonna make it And then when you make There's no making it never happens It doesn't change shit It doesn't matter if you're It's a big illusion I fell for it hook line and sinker oh my god the the wanting to be a rock star my whole life they got me good i wanted that mansion oh i was going to have that mansion and just filled you know with chicks like a niggleback song oh that's what i was after my whole life they got me good when i saw kiss and i saw that shit i'm like i want that i knew right right when i saw kiss meets the phantom of the park 1978 on nbc one of the worst movies of all time i remember that movie oh it just blew me the fuck away.

[2442] There was a power outage when I went to see that movie.

[2443] I was watching it at home.

[2444] The power went out and I was devastated.

[2445] And the weird thing about that era was in 1978.

[2446] And if you followed Kiss, if you were older, I was eight.

[2447] And if you followed Kiss, you know, from 73 on, they already had their early cool years.

[2448] And then after Kiss Alive, they had a few more awesome albums.

[2449] And then they got to the point where they started doing disco.

[2450] And that was 1978.

[2451] That's when I got into them when they started doing disco.

[2452] So I didn't, I didn't even know what selling out was.

[2453] I just heard I was made for loving you and I loved it.

[2454] You know what I had no idea.

[2455] But, man, I don't even know what my fucking point was.

[2456] What were we talking about?

[2457] I don't remember either.

[2458] The point was you're never going to get to know what the future holds.

[2459] You're just going to be living your life.

[2460] And that's how it is with everybody.

[2461] I don't remember what the fuck your point was.

[2462] Oh, the rock star thing.

[2463] Oh, you wanted to be a rock star.

[2464] They get you, they get you.

[2465] There's so many different ways they can, like, TV.

[2466] You get yourself, too.

[2467] I mean, you got to think about what you're exposed to.

[2468] But look, it's like music videos, what they sell in music videos, they sell that.

[2469] It's like they're offering it.

[2470] Look, I got, and a lot of those rappers that are flashing all the cash, it's not even their money.

[2471] It's not even their mansion.

[2472] But it's pushing that, like pushing, like, you want to do whatever it takes, whatever it takes to make it.

[2473] I was so zeroed in on that.

[2474] You know me up until a few years ago.

[2475] I was zeroed in on it.

[2476] then I began to realize wow they got me real goddamn good you know I was obsessed with some some an illusion fame is an illusion well you're obsessed with the destination instead of the journey right well I enjoyed the journey but it was like you know I'm saying you're obsessed with it was all about conquering the music business that's all it was about and it's not about that anymore obviously thank God thank God I sucked musically because if I would have had a record deal in my 20s shit, I would have did some crazy Illuminati shit back then.

[2477] I would have did whatever.

[2478] Like, whatever.

[2479] Just, I would have been to those parties with a crazy mask and been doing, I would do it.

[2480] They'd have parties with a crazy mask.

[2481] Eyes wide shut?

[2482] They just let you in.

[2483] All you have a dude's have a hit album.

[2484] They're like, hey, Eddie Bravo.

[2485] Hey, I don't know.

[2486] All I'm saying.

[2487] Come off, California.

[2488] Come on down.

[2489] Thank God my music sucked because I would have went along with all that shit in my 20s.

[2490] I was so obsessed.

[2491] I was so obsessed with making it of the music business.

[2492] I would have did anything.

[2493] Oh, but you wouldn't have done that.

[2494] Yeah.

[2495] You wouldn't have done that.

[2496] gone party with Jimmy Saville or whatever I would have been hanging out with it whoever was famous you know that's hilarious well you know it's like retirement is a lesser example that people are always looking for those golden years one day I'm going to retire and we're going to be walking with our hands at the sunset like no you're thinking about death then that's what happens those people don't do shit anymore they don't have nothing to do you know the only time you should think about retirement is if you have a job that you can retire and they pay you still and then you can go do whatever the fuck you want that's when you should be thinking about retirement But thinking about is this time where finally we get to relax.

[2497] It's an illusion.

[2498] We put our feet up and then they turn you into soiling green.

[2499] Yeah.

[2500] Turn you in a fucking.

[2501] That's what you were really aiming for.

[2502] And everyone is working to get that vacation and some faraway beach where they can have a beer.

[2503] And the destination is that they go far away at least five to eight hours.

[2504] You can't just use the beaches you have here.

[2505] These beaches don't count.

[2506] They count for people on the East Coast.

[2507] They count.

[2508] because they come here.

[2509] But you live here so it doesn't count.

[2510] You got to get on a flight and go to a goddamn beach that looks just like Malibu but you got to travel.

[2511] You got to go across the country.

[2512] You got to go to go to the ocean or go to Mexico.

[2513] It's an illusion.

[2514] Everyone's chasing that beach and then what are you going to do on that beach?

[2515] The first thing you're going to do is check to see if there's internet.

[2516] That's the first fucking thing you're going to do.

[2517] Right?

[2518] It's an illusion.

[2519] And then every time you go to the airport you see that picture of like some dude just laying there on some deserted beach like that's even possible.

[2520] I thought that was was possible i thought in my where's the beach that's deserted like a deserted like you have your own deserted beach you know that's a poor judge of you don't see that off camera out of the frame of the picture is a bunch of people trying to sell you a an inner tube and some just you know people trying to rip you off and sell you shit they don't show that part they just show your feet they show your feet in a beer if you have a perfect beach like that you're going to sell it to a bunch of people it's not just giving you this one dude unless you're one of those richard branson guys that's when you go full ball or you got your own beach what yes yes yes You have to...

[2521] Those only exist for Jay -Z.

[2522] You know what I mean?

[2523] You've got to buy an island.

[2524] Well, those Richard Branson -type dudes or Tyler Perry, he's got an island.

[2525] Man, it just seems like these vacations are all like rip -offs.

[2526] I remember me and my wife went to Cabo San Lucas and we looked at the package and like, oh, shit, let's get this resort.

[2527] There's five different restaurants.

[2528] Amazing, all -inclusive.

[2529] This is amazing.

[2530] You get there, and it's the same kitchen, five different restaurants, but only one is open at a time.

[2531] They just take different shows.

[2532] and it's the same waiters, the same food.

[2533] Oh, you went to a bonk -ass place?

[2534] Yeah!

[2535] I've got to send you to good places.

[2536] There's some good places you can go.

[2537] There's a good place in Cabo.

[2538] It's called the one and only Parmia.

[2539] I'll never go back there ever again.

[2540] Cabo's amazing.

[2541] I love it.

[2542] Oh, man. I like watching people are so drunk.

[2543] They're throwing up.

[2544] Yeah, that happens.

[2545] What about Hawaii?

[2546] Do you like Hawaii?

[2547] You don't want to go on vacation.

[2548] Someone gave me a non -stop first -class ticket to Hawaii and a five -star hotel.

[2549] hell for two weeks.

[2550] I wouldn't go.

[2551] Why not?

[2552] I've traveled so much, it's an illusion to me. Oh, I see what you're saying.

[2553] All my shit is at home.

[2554] I want to sit in my house and look out the window and go, fuck, yeah.

[2555] You know, that's what I want to chill.

[2556] I want to be with my family.

[2557] I want to be with my son.

[2558] That's an illusion.

[2559] You know, I'm going to travel with my family for them, but I've traveled so much.

[2560] To me, it's an illusion.

[2561] I've never been to a place where I was pissed that I was leaving.

[2562] I was always ready to go.

[2563] Like, dude, I'm ready.

[2564] You want to change flights and leave early shit when we went to Cabo we changed our flights and left early it sucked wow like we're gonna sit on a beach you really we got that right here we go to Santa Monica you got a vacation we've been we got me and my family get hotels because my son loves hotels we just get a hotel in Burbank like a VIP hotel in Burbank where you got like this gigantic room and we stay there for for a day you gotta just do we'll talk after the podcast you do do vacations the right way this ways that you could do go ziplining in Costa Rica dude I went dude I got tricked into going to Costa Rica I told you that told me that story?

[2565] I'll never go to Costa Rica ever again, okay?

[2566] Unless it's for a seminar.

[2567] I'll go for a seminar, like a jiu -jitsu seminar, but I ain't trying to go to the jungle or anything like that.

[2568] Fuck that shit.

[2569] We've got to wrap this up because I'm going to piss my pants.

[2570] I've been drinking too much water.

[2571] Can I throw a plug down?

[2572] Yes.

[2573] Fuck yeah.

[2574] Me and Sam Tripoli are doing tinfoil hat comedy in San Francisco at Cobbs, June 1st, and June 2nd at the punchline in Sacramento.

[2575] Thanks for the shirt.

[2576] Oh, shit.

[2577] Combat Jiu -Jitsu, baby.

[2578] Combat Jiu -Jitsu worlds, Eddie Bravo's birth child, along with EBI, the EBI Invitational, best fucking Jiu -Jitsu tournament in the world.

[2579] But this is the shit.

[2580] Combat Jiu -Jitsu, we talked about a million times.

[2581] This is going to change Jiu -Jitsu, make it much more applicable to M .A. Positions on the ground where dudes are allowed to bitch -slapp you, it's strong.

[2582] Yeah, it's crazy.

[2583] People love it.

[2584] It's great.

[2585] It's the fastest rising video ever on my YouTube channel.

[2586] It got to 300 ,000 views and, like, in a month.

[2587] It's next level.

[2588] None of my other videos.

[2589] get that kind of views.

[2590] It was crazy.

[2591] It's next level that shows what, like, these positions where the vulnerabilities are.

[2592] So it's like a real good first step in the M .M .A. Boogie is fighting Wagner Rocha for the Combat Jiu Jitsu World Championship at EBI.

[2593] The next EBI which is in San Diego, June 24th.

[2594] It's a 16 -woman, 16 -woman tournament, plus the Combat Jiu -Jitsu World Championship of Boogie against Wagner Rocha.

[2595] And we got amazing women.

[2596] We got all ADCC IBJJF champions.

[2597] Bia Basilio, she's the best chick out there.

[2598] Bia Mosquita, and she's right there at the top.

[2599] So one more time to date, and what's the website?

[2600] You can watch it on UFC Fight Pass.

[2601] It's going to be at or pay -per -view inch -by -inch.

[2602] Dot TV, June 24th, Sunday, June 24th in San Diego.

[2603] Tickets go on sale in a couple weeks.

[2604] It's going to be, it's going to be amazing.

[2605] All right.

[2606] That's it.

[2607] Thank you, buddy.

[2608] See tomorrow.

[2609] See you.

[2610] Cool.

[2611] Thank you.

[2612] Man, now three hours flew by so goddamn quick.