JRE MMA Show #58 with Brendan Schaub

[0] Five, four, three, two, ah, and we'll laugh.

[1] Dude, I brought you to the dark side.

[2] Now you're playing quick.

[3] I got my ass whoop.

[4] Yeah, well, you were in a fucking melee.

[5] There's three other dudes in there are blasting.

[6] It's a one -on -one map.

[7] That map's chaos.

[8] It's so fun, though.

[9] How fun is that shit?

[10] It reminds me of golden eye.

[11] Did you ever get into that?

[12] How dare you?

[13] Nintendo 64?

[14] That's a great game, bro.

[15] That game can suck all the dicks.

[16] You're using those stupid Xbox things You mean a controller Mouse and keyboard is where you're at That's why you were getting fucked up You don't even know how to move It was hard for me to move back and forth If it was the controller, game on What?

[17] Yeah, because nobody can move Yeah, if nobody can move Then you're all right With controllers Listen, that fucking That game's chaos Jamie and I have been going back and forth For fucking four or five days now You'd be surprised There are a couple guys That can compete a few That can compete with the mouse and keyboard guys I wouldn't be surprised.

[18] I'm sure they can, but they have zero life.

[19] And they don't even know what a pussy looks like.

[20] But Quake is old school.

[21] Quake's old school, right?

[22] Yeah, we're on Quake 4.

[23] But there's Quake Champions that you play online.

[24] We've been playing Quake 4 because we could set it up on what's called a local area network, a land, and it's real easy, and there's no latency.

[25] It's just direct from computer to computer.

[26] It's fun.

[27] I'm just thinking of the one guy.

[28] He's really aggressive workout, dude.

[29] What's that?

[30] The guy that I'm thinking of.

[31] He's a video game player He's a video game player He's really good He's named Nick Mercs I'm only kid I'm sure he gets pussy There's some good looking dudes Yeah I'm sure there are I'm sure there are But it's not fun to say No It's fun to say that they weigh 4 pounds You like to picture him as trolls Yeah they can't find their dick Yeah But now those kids make bank They do they make so much There's even hot chicks There's even hot chicks Oh yeah Well it's a good move for hot chicks Twitch Like there's hot chicks That hunt Because like And they wear makeup and shit Full eyelashes and shit Because it brings them into that world And then all the guys like, hey, look at her She likes what I like Yeah Titties and guns And they're like stand in front of like Endangered species with their tits out Like there's hot girls to take Muay class right And they get all serious angry face Don't talk to anybody Pretend they're real fighters Let's relax Some of them are real Some of them are not though Some of them get super serious That's when I whisper like this Let's relax Yeah When they say I don't like when people say I'm going, I'm going to train today.

[32] I'm like, oh, what are you doing?

[33] You're taking Pilates?

[34] Yeah, that's not training.

[35] Are you training for what?

[36] What are you training for?

[37] The Apoclips?

[38] Yeah, that doesn't count.

[39] Are you training for some dick?

[40] These goddamn games.

[41] They're so addictive.

[42] You were like straight up addicted to him, right?

[43] Oh, yeah, I had a real problem.

[44] Well, I kind of got a little bit of a problem now.

[45] Jamie and I've been talking back and forth.

[46] He's up on me a little bit, too.

[47] That's why I have to kick Jeff out every now and then, just so Jamie and I go one -on -one.

[48] One -on -one, last time I fucked him up, and he quit.

[49] Well, because me and Jeff are easy prey, right?

[50] He quit.

[51] Jeff's not easy prey anymore.

[52] Jeff was easy prey for a little bit.

[53] If I won all these games, how long do you think we'd be here playing quick?

[54] True.

[55] You want to get anything done?

[56] He's too competitive.

[57] What are you saying?

[58] You lost 13 to 5 because you were trying real hard?

[59] You got fucked up, son.

[60] I lit you up.

[61] And talking shit, and you were talking shit, too.

[62] He's tanking, he says.

[63] Yeah.

[64] Sure Fucked him up Boom bang The problem with Having another person And the thing is He always goes after Jeff first Gets that easy kill That's what I'm saying And he comes and gets me I could barely get my Fucking B -quette You guys were killing me Right away No Jeff's starting to win You know we got to He came real close to win That last one He's practicing Well we're not watching He's definitely practicing Jeff should be playing right now You should be smart Yeah Well I told him to fucking lift weights Too I'm like dude You got this whole gym here While the show's going on Watch the security camera.

[65] Get your pump on.

[66] Get jack, son.

[67] Who?

[68] He could.

[69] It's all out there.

[70] So let's talk about these fights.

[71] Bro.

[72] First of all, let's start with Diego.

[73] Mother fucking Sanchez.

[74] All these young guns sleeping on Diego Sanchez.

[75] Fully redeemed himself.

[76] Do not sleep.

[77] Do not.

[78] Just do not.

[79] Just don't.

[80] Because he will fuck people up still.

[81] How about Mickey Gall bid him?

[82] Do you see that?

[83] I saw that.

[84] That's crazy.

[85] There's a video fan buying him.

[86] video of him by now well there's a video of Diego going look at this shit yeah Diego I saw on his on his Instagram he showed his chest where he got bit that is crazy I thought they said Mickey Gall had a hard cut like a really hard cut maybe that's one of the reasons he got so tired I just don't think that so far he's just the skills aren't there yet he was out of his element a little bit with Diego well like Diego outclassed him Diego is a monster I mean you're dealing with a guy who has 40 look at that bite mark that is that is crazy who bites do the fuck make you go all bites guys before you can't be on my team yeah you're off the team it's not good it's a bad look me oh diego didn't say shit to the referee just kept smash him dude he is such a savage he's a savage he's been fighting since he was four years old in the u .s day he won ultimate fighter season one two thousand and five 14 fucking years ago Fought that middle weight.

[87] Yep.

[88] 14 fucking years ago.

[89] You got to stop and think about what an insane career that is.

[90] And his last two fights, I think your last fight was Craig White.

[91] Is that who he fought last?

[92] Smash that dude.

[93] And then smashed Mickey Gall.

[94] Dude, he's the mascot for Jackson's, right?

[95] Like, if there's a logo, it's Diego Sanchez.

[96] Yeah, and everybody knows, that is Brendan Chob's voice.

[97] I sound like Alex Jones right now.

[98] The thing is Joe.

[99] No, you don't.

[100] No little bit.

[101] Not loud enough.

[102] Yeah, you're right.

[103] Yeah, you sound like Brandon Chob with a cold.

[104] See, I don't feel sick.

[105] You don't feel sick.

[106] So it's just a sore throat?

[107] Yeah.

[108] But how's your throat just go?

[109] Were you screaming at someone?

[110] No. I was chilling.

[111] I did two podcasts before this.

[112] Are you practicing wolf owls or some shit?

[113] I don't know.

[114] Sometimes my voice goes.

[115] I'm not sick, though.

[116] Oh, that's so weird.

[117] That's weird because I am sick a little bit.

[118] Really?

[119] Yeah.

[120] Well, I had it over the weekend and yesterday I felt like dog shit.

[121] Do you work out?

[122] I worked out not yesterday.

[123] but Saturday.

[124] It worked out Saturday.

[125] It probably wasn't a good idea.

[126] They say when you work out when you're sick, it makes it worse because your immune system's down.

[127] I use your power through it too.

[128] I lifted too.

[129] And, you know, it's not smart.

[130] No. Yeah.

[131] But I'm okay today.

[132] I'm just like a little, little worn out, but my voice is all right.

[133] You should need some rest.

[134] Yeah.

[135] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[136] I mean, I'll be fun.

[137] Traveling doesn't help.

[138] No, it's the worst, man, because always, I always take the first flight back because I want to see my family.

[139] So you get low sleep.

[140] Yeah, I got the...

[141] That makes it worse.

[142] Yeah, I was up at five.

[143] Um, so Mickey Gall in that fight, he asked for that fight.

[144] That was a fight that he was begging Dana White to give him.

[145] He thought it was a good fight for him.

[146] He thought it was a good matchup.

[147] Yeah, I don't know why people think that.

[148] I guess because, like, he's been knocked out, right?

[149] Al Iquinta caoed him.

[150] Matt Browne coed him.

[151] He's a big name who's been doing for a long time.

[152] So these young guys go, oh, I grew up watching him.

[153] Let me get him.

[154] Well, I think they also think he's been doing it for so long.

[155] And they're right.

[156] Yeah.

[157] But he's still so fucking tough, man. He has all the skills.

[158] Yeah, he still has all the skills.

[159] And his ground and pound is fucking ferocious.

[160] And once he's on the ground, then he doesn't...

[161] I mean, if there's a hole in Diego's game, you would have to say, against, like, elite strikers, he has a real problem.

[162] Correct.

[163] Like, guys like Matt Brown.

[164] He's going to have problems.

[165] He's just not as fluid as those guys, you know?

[166] Yeah, Diego's grappling's amazing.

[167] Amazing.

[168] Amazing.

[169] And his ferocity cannot be questioned.

[170] He's just...

[171] Mental games, ridiculous.

[172] Savage.

[173] Just to think about the enthusiasm Diego has after all these years in the game, all these years in the game.

[174] Unbelievable.

[175] Crazy.

[176] How many years?

[177] How many years?

[178] Well, what we know, 14 years in the UFC.

[179] But he fought before that.

[180] He was a veteran.

[181] I mean, he had several fights before the UFC.

[182] Yeah, oh yeah.

[183] He's an old school man. Oh, yeah.

[184] Oh, yeah.

[185] Crazy how long he's been doing it.

[186] And again, how long he's been doing it and how much he loves it still.

[187] And he says CBD is really helping him.

[188] He's got his own CBD.

[189] God damn.

[190] That motherfucker's 17 years in.

[191] 17 years.

[192] He fought Michael Johnson in 2000.

[193] Bring a fire.

[194] Is that the same Michael Johnson?

[195] No way.

[196] Michael was six years old.

[197] His name would probably be tagged there if it was.

[198] Yeah, it would, right?

[199] That's not Michael.

[200] Wow, he fought Shannon Rich on his third fight.

[201] Shannon Rich has like a million fights.

[202] Cook on Shannon Rich.

[203] Look at my guy.

[204] I'm in the Joker.

[205] Old school.

[206] do that in three click on shannon rich how many fights is he got i'm gonna say he's got how many does it say his record 503 and 79 jesus christ it's the worst record of every single that's crazy that is crazy shout out to that guy though for keeping with it you know that is crazy he's lost 79 times jesus christ 42 kickboxing oh my god in 42 kickboxing matches jesus christ but kickboxing he's kind of killing it, 35 and 7.

[207] Not bad.

[208] But that's an insane amount of experience.

[209] But just stop and think about 17 years in, Diego is still slinging.

[210] And so much enthusiasm, that's a crazy part.

[211] It's not just that he's fighting, that he fights.

[212] He's just fucking angry.

[213] He's got his own CBD company now.

[214] He gave me some of it.

[215] Any good?

[216] I haven't tried it yet.

[217] He just gave me some bottles of his stuff, but he really believes in CBD.

[218] A lot of fighters do.

[219] It's helping them a lot.

[220] I swear about it.

[221] Yeah, it's amazing.

[222] amazing stuff spectrum CBD that's what I use yeah it's I mean there's so many good companies now but uh you know another fight that was crazy how about Colby and Pedro Munoz are you talking about coat well you skip past Zabit oh Jeremy Stevens yeah which I thought crazy crazy and no I mean for Zabit to beat the number six guy in the world yeah it was good good fight what you think um I didn't think it helps Zabit stock Because there's so much hype on him I just think he looked great I didn't think you look great Really?

[223] Well first of all He's fighting Jeremy Stevens Agree Jeremy Stevens is fucking dangerous You can't make any mistakes with that guy Zero you're getting locked out I thought he looked okay I didn't think his stock Went through the roof with that fight You didn't walk away from that fight going Oh my God I can't wait to see him fight again I thought he looked good But when you hear Mark Henry's coach talk about him I mean they talk about him like he's the next fucking Did you see that 360 roundhouse kick he tried yeah i missed i was like jeez he's not like a good shit he's so fast he's really fast and his his round kick to the body is just so fast like lightning amazing throws so quick such a talent such a talent yeah so technical too everything he does is very smooth doesn't get hit doesn't play that game no no doesn't play the game that c garbrand played the c god fight was crazy i just three losses in a row three knockouts three kos in a row i just couldn't believe he was standing with him like that he got got him hurt and then he got hurt and then he was determined to take him out and then they were literally going right hand right hand until someone fell yeah and Pedro can take a shot so can Cody yeah he ate shots he ate some big ones but it makes no sense if your Cody's so technical I know it doesn't make any sense he said he got headbutt and just saw red well he definitely did he definitely got head butted very er and picoish and he talked about it he said he saw red like got angry after you got headbutted yeah yeah you can't do that yeah you got to fight and tell it i mean obviously it's super easy for us to say you know sitting here drinking coffee yeah don't fight it don't fight angry bro you know it's easy to say but that's but also what makes him so dynamic agree it's what got him to the party but as a former fighter it's like coming off two losses which i've been there you're usually a little more like i'm not going to go down that road right i've been knocked out twice yeah i know how that ends yeah if i get hit Let's learn from our mistakes.

[224] Right, right, right.

[225] That's what's the troubling part.

[226] Yeah, and he has a speed advantage.

[227] Pedro Munoz has a very good timing, but I think Kobe has a speed advantage.

[228] Technique and speed on the field.

[229] On the ground, it's all Pedro.

[230] On the feed, it's Cody all day.

[231] I mean, Cody Garberant is still only 27 years old and still could be world champion again.

[232] No doubt about it.

[233] Three losses, Pedro Munoz, okay, he played that game loss.

[234] But another two are T. T .J. Dillishal.

[235] Right.

[236] Okay, so the champ has your number.

[237] Who gives the fuck?

[238] And in both of those fights, he hurt T .J. Dillshaw.

[239] He's just got to be more cautious and fight more technical.

[240] More disciplined.

[241] Yeah.

[242] You know, I mean, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get some mental coaching, you know, get some game plan coaching.

[243] Which he might have been doing.

[244] I don't know.

[245] Yeah, I don't know.

[246] I'm just speculating.

[247] I don't know who he's training is striking with either, but, you know, to mix things up more and be more unpredictable would also be a good thing.

[248] I mean, obviously, the last exchanges were just not predictable at all.

[249] all.

[250] It's a fun fun.

[251] I mean, not unpredictable at all.

[252] Fully predictable.

[253] Just right hand, right hand, right hand.

[254] Just chaos.

[255] You know.

[256] And think about his last one, he beat Dominic Cruz, which is you've got to be cerebral in that fight to be Dominicruz.

[257] Yeah, he had Dom's number.

[258] I mean, it was a different kind of fight.

[259] And it's interesting.

[260] Dom said that he did the exact thing that Cody did in their fight, that he got hit and he got emotional and he fought reckless.

[261] Dom did.

[262] Yeah, and that Dom went after Cody that was.

[263] Yeah.

[264] He said, I know what it's like.

[265] You just lose your game plan.

[266] you start you get wild yeah it's just it's hard to see him get caoed three times in a row like that he's gonna be fine i hope so he's gonna be fine i hope so he'll learn from it but here's the thing when you're ranked was he number two in that division it's not like all right let's give you a warm -up fight like it's not boxing there's no warm -ups right he's gonna get jimmy rivera or fucking al germane al germane yeah it's like and you know those guys might argue that they don't want him because he's lost three times in a row.

[267] Jimmy Rivera's coming off a loss too, though.

[268] That's true.

[269] Sterling actually called him out, which is weird because he's ranked, you know, he's ranked five, I think, but he's coming off a win, you know, a huge win.

[270] Right.

[271] So with Sterling, it's like that doesn't.

[272] Sterling called out Covington?

[273] I mean, um, Garbrandt?

[274] Yeah.

[275] I'm saying Colby Covington already because I'm already thinking.

[276] That motherfucker is good at marketing.

[277] Yeah, well, he's good at talking shit and getting his name out there.

[278] And it's the best thing for the Welterweight division right now after U. Mon just dominated Tyron Woodley.

[279] I was blown away by that fight.

[280] Me too.

[281] You and I were texting each other.

[282] It's weird because I had people over at my house to watch the fights.

[283] And they were like, God, this fight's so boring.

[284] And I look online and like, God, this is brutal.

[285] I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[286] This is one of the greatest title fight performances I've ever seen.

[287] For him to do that to Woodley and dismantle him, you don't understand.

[288] You have no idea what you're watching.

[289] It's fucking insane.

[290] It's not just insane that he dismantled him.

[291] which is for sure insane, but also his fucking gas tank.

[292] Usman was pushing on the pedal for five fucking rounds, never let off the gas.

[293] How about the way he looked in between rounds?

[294] To me, it was his mentality.

[295] Yep.

[296] When you look from the first round, as soon as they break it up, and then you're ready, he's standing there like this.

[297] I'm like, oh shit.

[298] Do you know that the word was that he had a fractured foot?

[299] Correct.

[300] So he took a fucking cortisone shot coming into that fight?

[301] Savage.

[302] savage imagine that and still no problems with his endurance apparently didn't train the whole week of just didn't do shit still made the weight no problem but think about what he has to do his coach is going all right you got to go in there you got to outgrapple outmaneuver tyrone woodley who's one of the best welter weights of all time well he doesn't get taken down he out did everything who doesn't get taken down who doesn't get taken down who doesn't get taken down and woodley also was kind of i don't know he's 37 i don't know if it's he just didn't show up what happened but I think he's 36.

[303] Is he 36 or is he 37?

[304] Either way.

[305] He's been doing it for a hot second.

[306] This is why I feel bad for Woodley.

[307] Maybe you know, Joe.

[308] But Woodley was always that guy where he didn't get along with Dana.

[309] He was kind of difficult to deal with.

[310] Did it his way and made some demands, won the big fight.

[311] And then it never happened for him.

[312] Right.

[313] He was in a big draw.

[314] But he could get away with that when he was champ.

[315] Now that he's not champ, the road for him to get back is going to be so fucking tough because of what he did when he was champ.

[316] That's why I feel bad for Woodley.

[317] And he's one of the greatest to ever do it.

[318] He is one of the greatest he ever do it.

[319] And I was making the argument before this fight that you could argue that if he beats Usman, he is the greatest.

[320] Correct.

[321] The greatest is George St. Pierre, right?

[322] He's the legend at Walter Waite.

[323] You look at his career.

[324] I mean, how many years was George to chant for?

[325] Was it six years or something crazy?

[326] Yeah, the most title.

[327] So you have George, Matt Hughes, and Woodley.

[328] Matt Hughes has legend status because he was the original.

[329] Right?

[330] He was, I mean, he was the first wrestler that really developed rock solid submission skills, the fights with Frank Trigg.

[331] I mean, he, when he armed barred George St. Pierre in their first fight, I mean, he was amazing.

[332] But then the new school was George.

[333] You know, George was the best welterweight of all time.

[334] But I was saying that he's in the running right now.

[335] If you consider the opponents he beat, Wonderboy twice, knocks out Robbie Lawler to win the title.

[336] And then, Goes on from there beats Damian Maya I mean you look at how he beat Darren Till for some reason he was an underdog in the Darren Till fight which didn't make any sense to me Everybody got excited I got excited too I thought Darren Till's gonna win that Really?

[337] I did see I thought Darren Till's very good But I did not I never saw him on the ground I never saw a real wrestler take him down And ground and pound I didn't know what he had off his back See I think Darren Till's gonna be a problem for Usman What really his size yeah I think he's even a problem and Darren is committed to 170 still is he still I think especially now that 170 because what what is if you are a fan of fighting what is fun is woodley being out the welterweight division's so fun right because now oosman colby you got ben asker in there now Darren till has a shot to be a champion well I'll tell you what even though Robbie Lawler lost that fight god damn he looked good he looked good physically like at the way and he looked jacked the best I've ever seen him he looked to me amazing.

[338] Apparently he had a tremendous strength and conditioning routine for this.

[339] Yeah, he looked real good.

[340] And he was fighting fucking ferocious, like the Robbie Lawler of old.

[341] He didn't look at all diminished.

[342] And I think maybe the time off was good for him because he had to get a ACL surgery.

[343] So it might have been dealing with something before his last fight.

[344] We don't know.

[345] Do you think maybe it was two where Ben Askens very, so one -dimensional?

[346] He didn't have to worry about the striking at all.

[347] There's a little bit of that, for sure.

[348] But the fucking fight started because he launched Ben Ascran into the air and slammed him on his fucking head.

[349] Which is crazy.

[350] How tough is tough as shit?

[351] Here's the other thing, yes?

[352] Ben won controversially.

[353] We don't know that.

[354] There was still, what, two minutes left in that fight?

[355] Dude, I've been watching the replay.

[356] With that much time, it could have got pretty dice for fucking Robbie Lawler.

[357] It could have got dicey.

[358] We can't just chalk up.

[359] Go to Ben's, I think he put it on his Twitter or his Instagram page where you see Robbie Lawler's arm go limp.

[360] Dude, it goes limp.

[361] Now, here's the question.

[362] Did it go limp because he just let it go because he was trying to like let, you know, just let it go.

[363] Because he's trying to like, just hang on because the choke, he was like, he's squeezing really hard, he's going to tire his arms out.

[364] That's what Robbie said.

[365] It wasn't under his chin, though.

[366] But here's a thing.

[367] And this is, people need to stop saying that you have to be under the chin to choke a guy unconscious.

[368] You can do both.

[369] You can choke a guy unconscious across his face.

[370] You can go across the face right like this.

[371] If you have a real squeeze, you have like a Marcelo Garcia squeeze.

[372] You could put a guy to sleep.

[373] Think how strong Ben is too.

[374] Ben has a real squeeze.

[375] Phenomenal squeeze.

[376] And he's in this position.

[377] With that bulldog, you can get a lot of leverage in that position.

[378] I mean, I don't know how he's gripping his hands.

[379] You know, much more torque you can get with his whole body?

[380] So I don't know if he went out and then Ben let him go a little bit.

[381] And then he pop right back awake.

[382] That's what he's saying.

[383] Your natural movement, though, if you go, if you're fighting a choke, your natural movement is to hold on to it.

[384] Is not to go limp.

[385] That's true.

[386] That's true.

[387] That's where I'm like, all right, maybe he was out.

[388] We thought he was out.

[389] Yes.

[390] We thought he was out.

[391] But in all fairness, I thought Ben was out earlier.

[392] Me too.

[393] I thought they were going to stop it.

[394] I thought they were going to stop it.

[395] Robbie slam him.

[396] I'm like, he's out.

[397] He's out.

[398] He was fucked up.

[399] I thought he was out.

[400] But damn, he can take a fucking shot.

[401] He can take a fucking shot.

[402] because Robbie hit him with some hammers.

[403] I was nervous for that fight for Ben.

[404] It was crazy.

[405] We've hyped him up so much.

[406] I know we hyped him up so much.

[407] And they came in with that Uber dad bod.

[408] I was like, damn, his justice, terrible.

[409] But let's figure this out.

[410] Let's see.

[411] Do you have a video of it?

[412] I just check both of his pages.

[413] I don't see.

[414] He posted it early.

[415] He posted it today.

[416] I think he was a Twitter.

[417] Yeah, I think it was Twitter.

[418] And I think maybe he might have either reposted.

[419] it or replied to it or reposted it with a comment he says this is what happened it's just a comment okay well let's see it when he said this is what happened then go to whatever he was commenting on I think it's the hand and then you'll see the video whatever he was commenting on is the video basically they were saying that in the video that he see let's check it out here Jack Sparrow there goes see carefully you'll see that Ben loosened his chalk choke a little bit and then Herb Dean touch click on that click on that goes to a long thread.

[420] Yeah, but if you go to the top of that thread, you'll see the video.

[421] There it is right there, the top, right there.

[422] Watch this.

[423] So check this out.

[424] Look at the arm.

[425] See that right there.

[426] That's not a normal movement.

[427] But, but, but, look, but Robbie does give him the thumbs up.

[428] That's the other thing that you're not seeing that.

[429] It's not a normal movement, but it is a tight squeeze.

[430] It does look like his arm went limp.

[431] I think it went out for a second and got and came to.

[432] Well, Herb said, what Herb is saying is he told Ben to stop, when the arm went limp.

[433] When the arm went limp, Ben said is that he's lightening up and then he lightened up and then Robbie came back to life.

[434] That's fair.

[435] That is entirely possible, folks.

[436] It's entirely possible.

[437] I do not know.

[438] But I do know that Robbie Lawler is a classy motherfucker because he complained for little.

[439] What the fuck?

[440] He goes, all right, man. Good job, good fight.

[441] He's been in the game so long.

[442] He's like, he can see him and goes, oh, fuck.

[443] He's got a great attitude.

[444] He's the best.

[445] He really does.

[446] He's got a great attitude.

[447] And I don't think his stock dropped in that fight.

[448] I really don't.

[449] No. No, I really don't.

[450] And I would like to see the rematch.

[451] I don't.

[452] Well, I want to see it again.

[453] I mean, he says no, but...

[454] Ben says no. Yeah, Ben says he didn't want to fight him in the first place.

[455] Why would you?

[456] Fucking right.

[457] Fucking right.

[458] He was so amped up for that fight, too.

[459] He was so angry and, like, you could see in his face.

[460] He knew what this meant.

[461] Dude, how about Ben versus Usman?

[462] That's a motherfucking fight.

[463] Yeah.

[464] You're talking shit.

[465] Yeah.

[466] Oh, Darren Till.

[467] Yeah, Ben, your performance is shit.

[468] You barely won.

[469] You're ugly as fuck.

[470] your chin is too big not to miss you have no respect for no one oh did i say you're a curly -headed fuck see you in london muppet well till has a tough fight in london though too yeah mazvadal's no joke man mazvadal's a very technical guy he's got good wrestling too man he's good at everything yep very good at everything and very good wrestling and i think that's probably where he's going to try to put darren till after that woodley fight he's a tough fight It's a bad situation for Woodley, man, because people are going to say, oh, he was doing all that stuff with TMZ, oh, he's got a rap album coming up, he's opening for, he's doing rap concert.

[471] That's fair, though, right, Joe?

[472] It is fair.

[473] That's fair.

[474] It is fair.

[475] Because I've always been on that side of, and you know more than anyone you told me to get the fuck out, is when you're one foot in?

[476] Yep.

[477] Because what's Usman doing when Woodley's in the studio?

[478] Going hard.

[479] Going hard.

[480] Ousman is all in.

[481] He's all in.

[482] You think Usman wants to show, if I went up to Usman, like, hey, dude, I'll pay for a show for you to get the fuck out of my face.

[483] Right.

[484] Get the fuck out of my face.

[485] That's what he's going to say.

[486] Get the fuck.

[487] He'll probably get angry at you.

[488] Get the fuck out of my face with that TMZ shit.

[489] Dude, I was, I was telling everybody for years people have been scared of Usman for years.

[490] But now you see why.

[491] Like now you see, before you were seeing people were scared of him, but he wasn't beating anybody that was world class.

[492] He wasn't getting those top 10 guys.

[493] Jamie Maya, right?

[494] Yeah, we got...

[495] The Damien Maya fight will forever be marred by the fact that they separated them when Damien had one hook in, he was trying to take his back.

[496] Dude, was that fucking homeboy?

[497] The guy who kept standing them up, was that Goddard?

[498] What the fuck are you doing?

[499] I don't know what he's doing.

[500] What are you doing?

[501] Let's see who that was.

[502] Go to Damien Maya versus Camaro Usman and see who separated them.

[503] Who's the ref?

[504] Matt the Terra Serra was going fucking crazy about that, and he's 100 % right.

[505] Do you know how difficult it is to get a hold of a guy like Usman like that and to have one hook in standing up and to be working to take his back and for them to separate him?

[506] It is nonsense.

[507] Pure nonsense.

[508] Do you know how much harder it is?

[509] That's hard.

[510] Yeah.

[511] How much hard is to take Woodley down and control him?

[512] Yes.

[513] And then you stand him up.

[514] Yep.

[515] If I'm Usman, I went, what the fuck are you doing, do you take him down.

[516] You take him down.

[517] You stop and think about Damien Maya's last fight, right?

[518] Who the fuck that you just choke unconscious?

[519] He joked the fuck out of who was that?

[520] Who was it?

[521] Who did he just choke out?

[522] Someone really good?

[523] Young kid that they fed him.

[524] Okay, so here it is.

[525] Nope, that's not Goddard.

[526] Who is it?

[527] It's the bald feller.

[528] Which bald feller?

[529] So here's, so here's, it's hard to tell who that referee is.

[530] I can't see the face.

[531] So Usman and them, they're exchanging, ooh, Usman cracked him.

[532] Who is it?

[533] Is it Chris Tione?

[534] I know two referees.

[535] I know three.

[536] no um it's leon yeah okay well for whatever reason what was godd thinking though i don't know what he was thinking and then he threw shade online at john annick what do you say saying your commentary was off so was annex that my commentary was off yeah okay i don't know what i did to say i didn't say anything bad about mark goddard i said i disagree with him standing up i don't know why he said the commentary was off but Dominic Cruz did say that he can't wrestle.

[537] The reason why he's standing him up is because he can't wrestle.

[538] Mark Goddard?

[539] Yes.

[540] No, he said that he was saying that about Mark Goddard.

[541] Correct.

[542] That's right.

[543] That's right.

[544] He threw shade of Goddard.

[545] I have nothing but respect for Goddard, although I don't agree with his decision in that fight.

[546] I do not agree with stand -ups.

[547] I don't like stand -ups.

[548] I like Mark Goddard.

[549] I do too.

[550] I think he's a great referee.

[551] In that moment, he's wrong.

[552] Well, he's probably very emotional.

[553] Yes.

[554] But listen, your job is not to intervene the trajectory of the fight your job is to protect the fighters don't fuck up Usman's biggest fight of his life by stand him up because what happens this and we've seen it what happens if he stood him up and Woodley goes you know what finally I feel good knocks him out right that's on you got it can't happen yeah it can't happen what did he say about me he didn't specifically call you out he didn't call you out specifically what do you say what do you say?

[555] There he is the only thing wildly inconsistent is your and your co -coms commentators, regulation, observation of actual events.

[556] I will whoop Joe Rogan's ass.

[557] That's ridiculous.

[558] Whoa, that's so rude.

[559] I didn't see that.

[560] I just made that out.

[561] The only thing wildly inconsistent is your and your co -coms recollection and observation of actual events.

[562] I'll save my side for later.

[563] Well, that doesn't make any sense.

[564] Recollection of actual events.

[565] I don't know what he's trying to say there.

[566] And co -coms.

[567] I didn't say anything bad about him other than I don't agree with the stand -ups.

[568] And that's not bad.

[569] But Dominic Cruz said, that he can't wrestle.

[570] And I don't know if Mark Goddard could wrestle.

[571] I know he knows how to referee.

[572] I know this.

[573] Compared to Dominic Cruz, he cannot wrestle.

[574] So Dominic's fine to say that.

[575] Also, John Anick going hard and the paint's awesome.

[576] Yeah, you are way off.

[577] Shout to John Nick.

[578] Wildly inconsistent is correct because Herb Dean is the gold standard, in my opinion.

[579] And Herb Dean, even though that thing with Robbie Lawler is controversial, I kind of look at it.

[580] I go, the arm went limp.

[581] I can see how he made that mistake.

[582] I can see that.

[583] I think it's unfortunate.

[584] it may have been a mistake, but it might not have been a mistake.

[585] I'm still...

[586] I'm not at it.

[587] I'm not at all.

[588] Look, man, his job is fucking way harder than mine.

[589] A hundred times harder.

[590] Herb Deem's job is to protect the fighters and to stop fights and make calls.

[591] I don't want to be that guy.

[592] That guy gets fucking hated on and never loved.

[593] Herb never gets loved.

[594] No one likes them.

[595] No one ever gets loved.

[596] But with Mark Goddard, don't be the guy trying to...

[597] Okay, John replied.

[598] He said, I always try to be respectful.

[599] We just call it like we see it too.

[600] but there's an arrogance with which you deal with the fighters, commentators, and many in the sport.

[601] Get on, John.

[602] And I find it off -putting.

[603] Whoa, one man's take.

[604] And I'm quite sure you'll give yours for everyone to hear.

[605] Get him, Anak, World Star.

[606] Damn.

[607] Okay, so I believe John Eck referred to the inconsistent between each referee's decisions of when to separate the fighters.

[608] And John said, exactly that's what I was referring to.

[609] that two of the consensus best referees of the game would handle those two situations so differently.

[610] I understand the athletes are different, but there are parallels to be drawn.

[611] John is 100 % correct.

[612] 100 % correct.

[613] Come at us, bro.

[614] I feel bad that Mark Goddard responded the way he did because it's not very professional, and I think it's very emotional, and I think he's probably just feeling the heat.

[615] Yeah.

[616] I went hard on him.

[617] Yeah, you feel that heat, and you get angry, you know, but I like Mark Goddard.

[618] I like him a lot.

[619] I think he's a very good referee.

[620] I think he's top one or two refs in the business.

[621] I love Mark Goddard.

[622] He fucked that up.

[623] My question is, I wonder who is telling them they should stand things up and when they shouldn't stand things up.

[624] It's the pressure he feels.

[625] The pressure he feels.

[626] From the audience, you think?

[627] From the crowd.

[628] Maybe.

[629] It could be that.

[630] British people are very nice.

[631] You know, sometimes in English people, they're not accommodated.

[632] You got to know what you're dealing with, man. When you got two world -class wrestlers and this guy's impossible to take down, he's one the best of all time.

[633] Yep.

[634] Let it go.

[635] Let it go.

[636] Well, I think let it go, period.

[637] I just, I do not agree with stand -ups because I think if a guy can hold you down like this I was saying about Ben Ascran If a guy like Ben Ascreen can hold you down And give you nuggies until the fights over Do something about it.

[638] Yeah, do something about it.

[639] Exactly.

[640] Do you not cheating?

[641] No. If he's not cheating, keep it up.

[642] Do you know how hard is to control Woodley on the ground?

[643] And you only have five fucking minutes.

[644] You have five minutes to sink a choke in, five minutes to hold on to him and beat him up.

[645] And look, look, all credit to Usman, he didn't even fucking care.

[646] He got stood back up, didn't complain, went right back at him and took him down again.

[647] in.

[648] He's a monster.

[649] Went cool story, bro.

[650] He is fucking hard to deal with, man. Tough fight for Colby.

[651] For everyone on the planet Earth.

[652] But stylistically, when you look at the fight for Colby, I look at what Colby does well.

[653] Yeah, he does that.

[654] He does that.

[655] The thing about Usman is he's got power, he's got striking, he's got wrestling, but even maybe more importantly.

[656] Cardio.

[657] For days.

[658] And here he's a fucking savage.

[659] His mind's a fucking bank fault.

[660] I know.

[661] Fort Knox.

[662] You're not getting in there.

[663] I'm so.

[664] I'm so impressed.

[665] How adorable was it him with his little daughter?

[666] Oh, dude.

[667] I almost cried.

[668] I'm such a bitch.

[669] Me too.

[670] I'm such a bitch.

[671] I'm become a bigger pussy that I've kids.

[672] Me too.

[673] Me too.

[674] Don't play the video.

[675] I'm like, I know, man. So cute.

[676] And just how happy he was.

[677] His mom and wife were real extra though.

[678] They're like P. Diddy in a bad video.

[679] Extras.

[680] Hey man. They wanted in so bad.

[681] He's the shame of the world.

[682] Can you imagine what it feels like to have your husband win the fucking world, heavy world welterweight title no i to beat tyrant woodley no i can't but i tell my wife take a hot back seat the fuck out of here and my mom sure as fuck wouldn't be in the cage hey man i feel like when someone wins like that they can do whatever they want me Connor's mom's always in the cage his dad's she's not trying she's not fucking thrown out promo case listen man and Usman I feel like he's only like what is he 31 or 32 how old is He's 32.

[683] He's a fucking savage.

[684] He can be the champ for a long time.

[685] He scared me. He's not, dude, have you seen how big he is in person?

[686] Of course you have.

[687] But when he's not cutting, he came to my Palm Beach show.

[688] I went, what the fuck you doing?

[689] How much do you weigh?

[690] I don't know.

[691] We're the same size.

[692] No. He's fucking huge.

[693] Well, he gets to, he's scared me. He scared me. Yeah.

[694] Well, he's, but he's big like a super athlete, not like a bodybuilder.

[695] Got to get your dick out of my face, Guzman.

[696] What's just.

[697] Like, when you look at the way Tyron is big, Tyrant's more thick.

[698] Like, his legs are thicker.

[699] Short and thick.

[700] Tyrant's five.

[701] Look at the height difference.

[702] Look at his fucking back.

[703] Look at the wings.

[704] He's so tall.

[705] Look how tall he is, man. And wide.

[706] He looks scary with his face painted like that.

[707] We're ogling him.

[708] Dude, I'm on his nuts so hard right now.

[709] He's a monster.

[710] The face paint thing was a last minute decision, too.

[711] Susie had to do his face.

[712] Suzy, the makeup lady.

[713] She had to do his face last.

[714] She's the best.

[715] She was the best.

[716] He's such a nice lady But they had to make sure That they had the right color of paint You know to do the Nigerian flag in his face Dude he might be champ for a long time There's great matchups Oh my god Welterweight is so fucking fun And don't sleep on Mazvedal folks You know Jorge Mazvedal still is capable of beating something Remember when he fucked up cowboy Mosvidal is the real deal I will say this though If Darren Till man He's my dark horse You think so I think so Unless he goes 85 but he's a motherfucker you know what happened in that till fight with woodley he didn't land a single significant strike in two rounds he didn't land anything in the first round and he didn't land anything in the second round just understand that it's not fun this is the big show this is the world title shot you come out to fucking neil diamond sweet caroline the whole deal everyone's singing along it's wonderful that's london but but but he lands nothing all right well here's this woodley threw one punch in five rounds.

[717] No, that's not true.

[718] Shit happens.

[719] No, Woodley was very tentative.

[720] Well, he was doing the smart thing.

[721] The smart thing is you wait and you counter because Woodley's so goddamn fast.

[722] That smart thing paid off when he landed that big right hand, dropped him.

[723] And then the other problem with Darren Till is that on the ground on his back, he didn't have anything.

[724] Didn't have anything offensive.

[725] He didn't have anything.

[726] He was rocked.

[727] For sure.

[728] For sure.

[729] But if you can move, you've got to be able to do something to protect yourself and something to tie.

[730] He also did.

[731] didn't see the choke coming, that also could be because he was rocked.

[732] Look, if you look at the way he dispatched Cowboy, insanely impressive.

[733] If you look at the way he beat Wonderboy, also impressive.

[734] I mean, Wonderboy's a world -class striker.

[735] Don't forget him and dropped him.

[736] Wonderboy who spent, Wonderboy's a hard code to crack.

[737] He's a hard code to crack, yes.

[738] And especially if Wonderboy has some time off to recover.

[739] I mean, gone through those two big five -round, three -fight row fights.

[740] The Till -fight was a five -round fight as well.

[741] So those are hard, man. They're hard on your body, hard going through training camp.

[742] And I want to say that I think Wonderboy had a knee injury, too, that he might have gotten surgery on.

[743] And his hand, maybe.

[744] But, yeah, I don't know about the knee.

[745] That might have made up the knee.

[746] The point is one of the welterweight division is fun as fuck.

[747] Fucking every division is fun as fuck.

[748] Bantamweight just opened up with Pedro Munoz.

[749] Light heavyweight's kind of crunk now too.

[750] Johnny fucking Walker.

[751] Yeah, dude.

[752] How about Johnny Walker?

[753] Okay.

[754] Stephen Watson said his moving was out the window after Darren Kill, uh, kicked, knee kick out, okay.

[755] He's also saying that he doesn't think that those kicks should be allowed, which is crazy for someone to say that kicks people in the head.

[756] Spinning wheel kicks people in the head.

[757] Okay, it says, it was almost like the dude was trying to put me out.

[758] Thompson told Ariel Halwana, yeah.

[759] Yeah, bro.

[760] He was definitely trying to kick him.

[761] He hit me in the knee, and after that, my movement was pretty much out the window.

[762] I was more focused on keeping my knee.

[763] It was just another thing to think about out there.

[764] Well, that's a strange attitude.

[765] You know, I mean, maybe that comes because he came from a karate background and not a Muay background.

[766] On the show, Thompson said he was unsure of targeting the knee with that kick like that is legal.

[767] Well, I will tell you, it's legal.

[768] It's definitely legal.

[769] So are heel hooks, which are way worse.

[770] I mean...

[771] Do a spinning heel kick to your face.

[772] Hopefully it's nothing major, but it sucks, man. It really does.

[773] Disappointed by the whole situation and coming out of it with an injury like that.

[774] It only makes it all worse.

[775] He has a fight coming up.

[776] yeah pedis oh that's right so he must have healed it up or got surgery or whatever i just i don't understand that i don't understand that kind of thinking i mean i don't entertain he said i was trying to hit the guy hard or really was i was just saying unable to put myself in a situation to do so and the reason for that is because he kicked your knee which is a technique yeah it's a technique john uses it all the time it's a fucking legit technique it's good whittaker used against romero look i don't yes and romero used it against whittaker That's where Whitaker got it.

[777] Whitaker went, oh, we're doing that?

[778] And he went right after.

[779] Cool story.

[780] Yeah, you fuck my knee up in the first fight.

[781] And he fucked his knee up in the second fight.

[782] Listen, it is just as valid and maybe safer than kicking someone in the head.

[783] It's easier to do, for sure, than kicking someone in the head.

[784] But so what?

[785] If you can kick someone in the fucking head with a wheel kick, that is the worst thing you can do to a person.

[786] When a boy has no point there.

[787] He's just, you just sad about the fight.

[788] Yeah, it's unfortunate.

[789] But again, I think a lot of that is because he came from that.

[790] karate background and he came from a above -the -way style karate background initially you know when duke rufus was cornering his brother rick rufus when rufus fought uh i forget the gentleman's name from thailand um i think laurence kenschen has it as the most important kickboxing match in history god damn i forget who that because we realized how critical because this was in rick rufus was in his prime he was the man he was the man i mean rick rufus the jet he would do wild shit man jump 360 turning sidekicks to the face he would hit guys and knock him out with hook kicks and front leg round here he goes chang try this name cheng puquette kiat song great um i fucked that up i'm sure it's a hard pass would have said it duke would have said the name perfect but at the point is at the end of the fight after the tie gentleman destroyed rufus's legs and stopped him duke who's a world champion himself said that he didn't think that it took any skill to do that because that's how a lot of those Thai guys thought you watch the end of this man wow watch the end of this can't walk you can barely walk but watch they say go ahead and this dude comes out he goes he knows what to do here we go hi he just whack to tax those legs yeah that would hurt so bad and this dude's a beast too look at the thighs in this dude whack he just fucking those legs up hands up high and just whack look at this dude who's the ref well they didn't know any better That's how they did it back there with a karate.

[791] The ref wore a fucking karate gie.

[792] Yeah, hell yeah.

[793] The ref's got a black belt on.

[794] Fuck, yeah, he does.

[795] Look at that, whack.

[796] Quack in the ass.

[797] Yeah, those leg kicks and that was it.

[798] So after it was over, Duke, who I think was only like 19 at the time, said he didn't think that took any skill.

[799] Obviously, Duke doesn't think that now.

[800] He evolved and became a world boy tie champion himself.

[801] It's just, ignorance is, but that sort of stuff.

[802] There he is right there.

[803] Look at a young baby -faced Duke roof.

[804] Let's play it so he could hear him say.

[805] It's the way of the cookie crumbles tonight Back it up a little so I can hear him say that I'm not sure I just know that he's in pain and the leg kicks Were the only thing that stopped him The guy did not touch anywhere else in the body You know I think you know That Rick should have won the fight He had the guy out There are three major fouls But it's the way the cookie crumbles tonight He said later that he didn't think that it took skill to do that but which is he just didn't know anybody but look this this this ha -ha motherfucker kick so hard too that style is so good the tie style is so god damn good it's so good their head movement's not yeah well the tie style with the other techniques is the best if you got that tie style but you know how to throw side kicks you know to throw everything else Wonderboy Darren yeah John Jones yeah John Jones was throwing up fucking throwing everything arsenal of kits it's a very interesting watching him, man. He's doing a lot of sidekicks now and spinning back kicks, turning side kicks.

[806] How about the kicks landing to the body?

[807] Yeah.

[808] He's throwing a lot of sidekicks.

[809] He throws a lot of everything, man, but he fucks you up.

[810] He's just and he's so good at keeping guys in the back foot.

[811] And just just taking away their arsenal.

[812] I want to say this though, because this is something that's coming up and it's actually kind of pissing me off.

[813] What's that?

[814] There's somebody there's a bunch of people that have been saying, should Anthony Smith have laid down after he took that illegal knee and won the title.

[815] Who said this?

[816] Ariel Hawani, a bunch of other people said it.

[817] I think Ariel was suggesting or asking whether or not he should have.

[818] That's some beta male shit.

[819] Well, it's crazy because the guy should be praised for he ate the knee, he was okay, and then he wasn't even thinking about quitting.

[820] Yeah.

[821] It didn't even go through my mind.

[822] It made it through my mind that someone might do that.

[823] Not with Anthony Smith.

[824] Have you ever seen him fight before?

[825] No, he's an animal.

[826] That was even a thought.

[827] No. Nope.

[828] Nope, it wasn't a thought.

[829] I don't agree with it.

[830] And I wasn't like, oh, we should all give him praise for this.

[831] I was like, well, no, why would he do that?

[832] Well, that's who he is, but some people, like, let's be honest.

[833] And I think Chale's son would probably admit to this.

[834] If he took that illegal knee, he might say, that's it, can't go on, sorry, rematch.

[835] You get the win and keep going, yep.

[836] But Chale's a businessman.

[837] Yeah, I mean, you get the win, you get the title, you get a rematch.

[838] I could be wrong.

[839] Chale might disagree.

[840] He might say, no, I'm a competitor when I'm in there.

[841] I wouldn't think that way.

[842] Not at his, not now, his age now.

[843] But the bottom line is, like, some people were actually suggesting that, that that would be a good option, that he was, many people were suggested.

[844] I saw several people, and that the fans went hard on these people that suggested it.

[845] Like, you're out of your fucking mind.

[846] You're out of your fucking mind.

[847] He was getting out class.

[848] That'd be such a bitch move.

[849] Well, unless he actually couldn't go on.

[850] Yeah, but we all saw he could.

[851] Because the doctor, he goes, I'm fine.

[852] He goes, no, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine.

[853] Yeah, exactly.

[854] That's anything, Smith.

[855] I actually think Anthony Smith's stock went higher now.

[856] Because we go, oh shit.

[857] No, he's top five for sure.

[858] And he looked very good in the first round.

[859] The first round looked very good.

[860] How about his takedown defense?

[861] Yes, very good.

[862] John started figuring him out.

[863] And John is so good at forcing you to fight his fight.

[864] And being first.

[865] He's so good at being first.

[866] First with the kicks, first of the punches, first forward.

[867] You know, he doesn't give you a chance.

[868] And that's the thing with Anthony Smith.

[869] Anthony Smith's chance was to always be first.

[870] You watched Anthony Smith's fights prior.

[871] He was a bulldozer comes at you.

[872] John went, that's what you do?

[873] Cool, and put you on your back foot.

[874] You go first?

[875] Not in my night.

[876] I'm going to go first.

[877] So then Anthony Smith was defensive the entire time.

[878] Trying to hand fight.

[879] He just took away all his tools.

[880] He also fought very technically in the first round.

[881] He didn't just swing at him.

[882] Anthony, felt very technical.

[883] John actually in the first round got a little wild.

[884] I felt like he almost felt the pressure of being a, you know, minus 800.

[885] favorite.

[886] We've never seen John throw those wild punches in that first round.

[887] He was trying to get him out there.

[888] Then he went, you know what?

[889] This isn't going to be easy.

[890] I thought recalculated and then dismantled him.

[891] Yeah, I mean, he's the best of all time.

[892] By far.

[893] By far the best.

[894] But who in that division can fuck with him now?

[895] I mean, Seago Santos, yeah, which is, look, Santos is a wild car.

[896] That motherfucker can knock out anybody.

[897] I would have liked to see Johnny Walker not blow his shoulder out celebrating.

[898] I heard he's fine, though.

[899] What?

[900] Listen, man, he couldn't move his arm.

[901] He came in the back, and they didn't even, they're waiting until, I think, today, but in the back, after he went, I'm actually good now.

[902] Okay, so what that must have mean, that must mean that he dislocated it, and then they popped it back in place.

[903] So it could be fine, or there could be some significant tearing inside that allowed it to dislocate, and that could be a problem in the future.

[904] Let's say it's fine, though.

[905] Let's hope it's fine.

[906] He's still not fighting John Jones yet.

[907] He has a ways to go.

[908] Listen, fill that dude up with stem cells, just get a bunch of needles in there and fucking, rah, rah, ha.

[909] You know a core zone?

[910] Do all the fucking worms you want, bro.

[911] Yeah, don't give him cortisone.

[912] Give him some stem cells.

[913] Santos is an interesting fight for John.

[914] Yes.

[915] He's interesting because Santos throws fucking nuclear missiles at your head.

[916] And, you know, he did stop Jimmy Namanawa.

[917] He stopped several guys at Light Heavy Way.

[918] He looks spectacular at Light Heavy Way.

[919] And he stopped Anthony Smith in their last fight at Middleweight.

[920] I would imagine Santos is almost a bigger underdog than Anthony Smith.

[921] I would imagine that too.

[922] But I would imagine that he's not going to fight like Anthony Smith.

[923] Is he okay?

[924] Was it say?

[925] I'm fine.

[926] My shoulder's not too bad.

[927] Not too bad is not a good thing to say.

[928] I just need to do some exams and check to be 100 % sure that it was nothing serious.

[929] Okay, that doesn't mean it's okay.

[930] Because the thing about shoulder tears, and this is coming from someone who's had some shoulder issues, it feels all right until you do something weird, then it hurts.

[931] And then you're like, fuck.

[932] And then you get an MRI, and then they look at it and they go, oh, you got some tears in there.

[933] But sometimes it's not shit.

[934] I've had pro where I'm like, dude, I'm fucked.

[935] I can't move my shoulder.

[936] And two days later, like, well, fucking, let's do it.

[937] That's usually, like, sore tendons or sore muscles.

[938] And he was just doing the worm.

[939] Yeah, but he fell face first and landed on his shoulder weird.

[940] But I'm sure he's doing that.

[941] Maybe, man, I don't know.

[942] Dude, how about his post -fight speech?

[943] Yeah, he's hilarious.

[944] I love Mickey Mouse.

[945] Yeah, he's hilarious.

[946] He's a real character.

[947] He's a character when he'll work on his English, but he's going to go far.

[948] Motherfucker has some power.

[949] That flying knee.

[950] Yeah.

[951] I was grilling for everyone.

[952] And I lost track of time.

[953] I looked at the TV from my best.

[954] I saw them go, let's get it on.

[955] I just fucking dropped everything and sprinted because that motherfucker knocks him down in seconds.

[956] Yeah, well, this is his third fight in the Octagon, but he's fighting Nisha Sikernoff, who's a real tank.

[957] He's a vet.

[958] He's tough, man. He's a tank, and he's got some serious grappling skill.

[959] It chokes the shit out of everybody.

[960] Choked out Pat Cummings in his last fight.

[961] I mean, he chokes the fuck out of people.

[962] But, you know, Johnny Walker, let's watch it real quick.

[963] I mean, fucking.

[964] But the thing that, the thing.

[965] about Walker is he's so loose he came into that fight dancing boom look at that's the thing how what's he like when someone takes you down and we're in the third yeah we're gonna find out he's a brown belt in jujitsu though yeah watch this see he slapped his own arm on the ground like let's see that again just jump on the case this it's his left arm it's his left arm that hurt so watch this he goes down yeah esther i heard it has a great photo of him going uh uh uh God damn he's lying there He's like Ah fuck I hurt my arm He's gonna be fine He might not be fine dude Dude let's wish for the best I'm wishing for the best Listen I'm a fan of the guy I'm wishing for the best I'd rather see him or Santos But there are so many videos Of football players Celebrating touchdowns And blowing their ACL out Blown their knees yeah Yeah it's He's like hey get a doctor So he got up and you know It was interesting I was talking to one of his His teammates and they were like You see how loose he is He's like he's loose for everything That's just how he is with life.

[966] Have you ever seen his walkout?

[967] Dancing.

[968] When he was stripping?

[969] No. Oh, dude.

[970] He was a dancer, I think, in Brazil.

[971] Thunderdown under Brazil style.

[972] Dude, he's, he was a, and he's a good stripper, too.

[973] This boy probably made some money.

[974] Dude, you got to find it.

[975] Well, he's a real interesting addition to that division.

[976] That division finally has some life back in Santos, him.

[977] Who's the other dude?

[978] God, stud.

[979] Which guy?

[980] He's ranked like number 10, I think.

[981] Either way, light, heavyweight's killing it.

[982] Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

[983] God damn, I can't do it either.

[984] Ethnic good.

[985] Yeah.

[986] Fuck.

[987] Let me see the division.

[988] He's top 15.

[989] He's actually top 10.

[990] Let me see.

[991] Make that a little bigger.

[992] Dominic Reyes.

[993] Dominic Reyes.

[994] Yeah, Dominic Reyes is a monster.

[995] He's super athletic, too.

[996] The thing about Dominic Reyes is super smart, super athletic, and he's 9 in 0, undefeated.

[997] him versus Johnny Walker Be a hell of a fight There's so many good matchups A light, heavyweight With the young guys Rains is a really good athlete The thing about him That separates him from everybody else It's like he has a background What do you have a background in football?

[998] Was that what he was?

[999] I don't think he's a football player What was his uh I would say Johnny Walker's probably More athletic than these guys He's so big in the way he moves So big Isn't it weird he's from Brazil's name's Johnny Walker He's named under whiskey The fuck Weird Yeah who knows How does The Johnny Walker whiskey not just do a deal now i know right jump on board before this gentleman becomes a champ yeah have them wear a johnny walk a t -shirt and shit now again light heavyweight will be so much better the same thing that happened well to wait if john jones goes have fun boys and goes the heavyweight right which no one's being none these guys are beating john very well could happen none of these guys are beating well john might fight tago next and if he fights tiego i mean look john wants to fight five times a year so here we are in march it's uh you know march second He wins.

[1000] John easily could fight in May or June.

[1001] I'll fight in June, I bet.

[1002] Easily.

[1003] April, May, June, three months for now?

[1004] Yeah, easily.

[1005] Okay.

[1006] IT technical support.

[1007] Okay, he works at an IT technical support.

[1008] No, NFL.

[1009] You're right.

[1010] Hold on.

[1011] Football.

[1012] Drempt of playing the NFL.

[1013] But didn't he play for high school?

[1014] He'd play in high school in college?

[1015] Not being drafted.

[1016] Defensive back here for the Sea Wolves.

[1017] I don't know.

[1018] Okay.

[1019] So, yeah, so he played football.

[1020] Oh, at Stony Brook.

[1021] Okay.

[1022] So he played football and then decided to, yeah, well.

[1023] Still.

[1024] Still, excellent athlete.

[1025] That's the point.

[1026] Didn't get drafted.

[1027] For football, smart as shit, too.

[1028] For MMA standards, he's a super athlete.

[1029] Yeah, and smart as shit.

[1030] Yeah, you know, that's the thing we've talked about this before, the difference between the level of athletes between the guys that are going into the NFL and the NBA.

[1031] They're the height of the height.

[1032] Dude, watch the NFL Combine.

[1033] There's a guy who was 6 -3, 200.

[1034] 30 pounds ran a 4 -3 in the 40 of the 40 -inchvert he's a wide receiver that is the best footwork you've ever seen has footwork like dominic cruz it's it's mind -blowing there's a defensive lineman who ran a 4 -440 a big fat dude that's insane that's so fast two 300 pounders ran plus sub 5 second 300 pounds sub 5 second 40 that's insane that's insane dude that's so fast have you I don't know why I bring this spot on every podcast Have you ever seen the guy He's run the 40s, his dick comes out It's the best moment in sports He's got so much dick It can't be held in He pops out and he falls No And he pops up and goes The coach goes what happened He goes my dick fell out man And they paused it And he's this fat black Dick Let's see him go Ready Go Don't do Da da da da da da da da da da Where's his dick You'll see it on the Oh my god, he fell on his dick That's his cool, like he tucks it in In the replay They slow it down You see this big dick He goes my dick fell out man That is so fun Look at the size of that guy When they redo it Let me see Whoops He's like damn it He decided to fall down To cover his own dick It's crazy that he's so confident That his dick is tough That he went Let's see Break it down Oh Jesus there it is pops out like god damn it dick fell out again imagine that kind of a problem imagine this is why it's great this is why it's great imagine how many women just started blowing up his DMs like I mean when your dick falls out while you're running you can't even contain it inside some pants this one makes me laugh biggest moment of his life he's been waiting dreaming of going the NFL did they give him another run I'm sure It's give them a goddamn two tries Sturdy pair of compression shorts Every dude goes I get a man Let's go again This is something I'm not understanding About dudes who are not wearing compression shorts With a cup like a diamond MMA cup In the NFL?

[1035] No in MMA Like guys who get nutshotted Like when guys have a regular cup on Like how How do you have a regular cup on in 2019 How do you have that When you can have one of those compression cups And you're not going to get hurt Sometimes those cups are uncomfortable, and they're so big.

[1036] Fuck yeah, they are.

[1037] You know what's more uncomfortable?

[1038] Getting kicked in the nuts.

[1039] I don't get it.

[1040] Kenny Florian used to wear the Thai steel cup, and here's the thing.

[1041] I don't think the Thai steel cup should be legal.

[1042] But if it is legal, oh yeah, it's a nasty fulcrum.

[1043] But not only that, but even if you accidentally hit it, you're hitting a piece of metal.

[1044] Like, why is it okay to have a piece of metal?

[1045] You could break your foot.

[1046] And a guy can do something to you and slam that.

[1047] metal into your face.

[1048] I mean, some weird shit can happen and you can break a bone.

[1049] I mean, there's many opportunities where guys, like, how about this?

[1050] A guy shoots in and the guy hits him with his hips, right?

[1051] You could hit him with your hips and catch that steel cup right in your fucking mouth and break your face.

[1052] Remember, Mithriot knocked out Derek Lewis with his hips.

[1053] Remember that?

[1054] I thought he hit him on the right hook or something.

[1055] No. Like, he just sprawled and knocked him out.

[1056] Really?

[1057] Wow.

[1058] I don't remember that.

[1059] Why did I remember he?

[1060] Beastie.

[1061] In like 13 seconds.

[1062] He hit him with that, but then he hit him with some punches, too, right?

[1063] At the end, but still, the hip's what fucked up.

[1064] Interesting.

[1065] Crazy.

[1066] Yeah.

[1067] I really think that those cups, like a diamond MMA -style cup, should be standard.

[1068] And I think Diamond MMA probably has the best one.

[1069] I didn't like them when I was fighting just because they were so uncomfortable.

[1070] I'd rather you hit me in the dick.

[1071] I don't think the diamond ones are that uncomfortable.

[1072] Do you wear that one?

[1073] I bet it's not.

[1074] We have one here.

[1075] We give it to you.

[1076] You want to try it out, but you don't give a fuck anymore.

[1077] I don't know what I'd use it for.

[1078] You're in there fucking lift -a -waite.

[1079] I'm looking good.

[1080] Got you pretty good.

[1081] Like Gene Simmons and Kiss.

[1082] Yeah.

[1083] He's got one with teeth on her or something.

[1084] Those steel cups, though, some dudes used to wear those in Jiu -Jitsu.

[1085] It was horrible because they'd get on top of you.

[1086] Like, if somebody mounted you and they grapevine your legs and dug that fucking thing into your chest.

[1087] Dude, how about fucking Oosman fucking grapevining Woodley?

[1088] Yeah.

[1089] Yep.

[1090] Mounted them.

[1091] Yep.

[1092] Yep.

[1093] And then I had my boy Todd Feldman over in my house.

[1094] He goes, could there be anything worse?

[1095] Or he goes, that looks like a bad position to be in.

[1096] And I turned around and went, excuse me, sir, the worst.

[1097] There's nothing worse in professional sports than in the UFC when you get mounted on national TV in front of millions of people.

[1098] And you just, it's the most kind of beta male move of all time.

[1099] You're on your back.

[1100] You can't get up.

[1101] This man's on top of you.

[1102] Yep.

[1103] Dick to chest.

[1104] It's so embarrassing.

[1105] And he held him there.

[1106] He held him there for a long time.

[1107] All your buddies are watching.

[1108] Oh, damn, go.

[1109] And, you know, the interesting, it didn't seem like Tyrant had the energy to get him off.

[1110] Like, he didn't even hip escape correctly.

[1111] He knows how to hip escape.

[1112] Taryn's a black belt and jiu -jitsu.

[1113] Something was up with Woodley, yeah.

[1114] You think so?

[1115] Yeah.

[1116] He looked off.

[1117] Well, I don't know if that was it, or he's just wilting under the pressure that Usman was putting on him.

[1118] Here's why, and I'm not taking anything away from Usman.

[1119] I think so one of the greatest title fight performances of all time.

[1120] Of all time.

[1121] Maybe the best.

[1122] That's fine.

[1123] He won every minute of every round.

[1124] He had two tenets.

[1125] And against a guy who many people thought was in the running to be thought of as the greatest Walterweight of all time.

[1126] Top two.

[1127] And if he won that fight, especially he stopped him, I think you could put him in that category.

[1128] Agree.

[1129] So we both agree how impressive it is.

[1130] Yeah.

[1131] Where I thought he might be off is right in the opening minute.

[1132] Remember Usman shoots, Will he grabbed a guillotine, and he falls on the wrong side against the cage.

[1133] I went, well, world champions don't do that.

[1134] He's not there mentally.

[1135] Also, he kept holding on to that Q &T, and I was like, my God, he's going to get Von Flute.

[1136] And I think the only thing, I think we're calling it to OSP now.

[1137] I heard that, yeah, OSP.

[1138] It's an OSP.

[1139] Sorry, Von Flu.

[1140] But OSP has more Von Flu chokes than anybody.

[1141] You kind of have to call it to OSP.

[1142] Oh, in St. Peru.

[1143] But then, when I saw that with Wood.

[1144] He kind of invented it, right?

[1145] Did he invent that choke?

[1146] I doubt he invented it.

[1147] I want to know if he invented it.

[1148] Because if he invented it, you got to give it to him.

[1149] True.

[1150] Let's call it the OSP though Way cooler So he went for the OSP choke Yes So he goes for that choke But at Woodley's level To do that in the opening rounds of it Well he's not ready yet He's mentally not Firing right now Because that's Woodley being a blackburned Jitou Being one of the greatest fighters of all time Yeah Like you've ever seen George St. Pierre Make a mental Not like that Never No Not in a world title fight Never So when I saw that I went Oh Woodley's off You might be right about him Having one foot out the door Because being, do we figure out if he's 36 or 37?

[1151] It's 37 in a month.

[1152] So basically 37.

[1153] Basically 37 doing all that stuff for TMZ.

[1154] I want to say he opened for Wiz Khalifa recently.

[1155] They have an album together.

[1156] Oh shit.

[1157] Wiz is going to come on the show.

[1158] We're working it out right now.

[1159] You're going to get so high.

[1160] That's going to be awesome.

[1161] It'll be fun.

[1162] You want to come in?

[1163] Sure.

[1164] You can high with us?

[1165] Last time I was on fucking Pluto.

[1166] Those fight companions.

[1167] We passed These fucking backwoods ones, man. These things are a problem.

[1168] I was so high.

[1169] Alex Jones had one, but it was only tobacco, folks.

[1170] Yeah, but with Woodley, when we say one foot in, one foot out, it's easy to say, in hindsight, because eventually he was going to lose.

[1171] But before this, he was doing all that stuff.

[1172] When he beat Taylor, he was doing this stuff.

[1173] When he beat Wonderboy twice, he was doing this stuff.

[1174] So I don't know.

[1175] Or Usman's just a bad matchup.

[1176] But we're looking at these points.

[1177] he had an off night he does too much stuff outside the outgun or Usman's just a bad motherfucker I think it's all the above Usman is absolutely a bad motherfucker and who knows he might have been able to do that anyway even if Tyron was in perfect condition but here's the question Tyrant over the last few fights over the last few years has been able to control the pace of the fight 100%.

[1178] He controlled the pace of the Maya fight he controlled the pace obviously Darren Fertil fight was a good easy victory for him relatively controlled the pace of the one Wonderboy fight, fought smart, and then hit him when he wanted to with big shots.

[1179] And he was the one who had Wonderboy hurt, right?

[1180] But Wonderboy was never pressing him, like, forcing his cardio.

[1181] But if you go back and watch some of the fights where he had problems earlier in his career, like Nate Marquart, like Rory McDonald, it's someone pushing him, someone pushing him.

[1182] And this, you know, this might, he might have figured out a way to, look, when you're that muscular, and he's fucking ridiculously muscular.

[1183] I mean, Tyrant has legs the size of a running back, he has giant -ass legs.

[1184] Usman's muscular as fuck too, though.

[1185] He is, but Usman's longer.

[1186] Longer, it's different.

[1187] Like, it's not that stacked, jack, dense, almost powerlifting muscle.

[1188] And that muscle is one of the reasons why Tyrant is so fucking fast and powerful, but it also, you could make the argument that that muscle just comes with an unavoidable price, and that what he's been really able to do is, Jack is conditioning, up as high as possible and then also do a really good job of controlling the pace of fight.

[1189] He couldn't do that with Usman.

[1190] Good point.

[1191] Could be.

[1192] So we don't know.

[1193] I feel bad for the guy.

[1194] I'm a fan.

[1195] I want to see if he wasn't 100 % focused, I want to see him one more time focused with Usman.

[1196] Here's the problem.

[1197] Like with Suhudo and T .J. Caught behind the air, stopped early.

[1198] All right, rematch, for sure rematch.

[1199] Other guys where it's quick, Kane, Blaskis, quick rematch let's do it run it back when you get out class for 25 minutes and there's two eight 10 rounds it's tough to get there's no way off season aren't getting rematch yeah so who don't tj you could you could really call for a rematch in that fight the ufc's going to make woodley's path to that title shot a fucking nightmare man who stopped that fight suhudo and tj who stopped that fight who was a referee in that fight was that herb no no who was it so leon roberts was one who separated Damien Maya and Usman.

[1200] I want to say it's Leon Roberts.

[1201] Was it Leon Roberts?

[1202] No. Gentlemen, I forget his name.

[1203] Powerful haircut, though.

[1204] So you'll run that back, though, because you stopped early.

[1205] Well, also, Woodley's a tough cell.

[1206] They're the biggest names in that division, especially if they decide to do it at Flyway, they're the only names in that division, except Joseph Benavides.

[1207] Benavides, who also won, he beat Sohudo in a split decision.

[1208] And he, There's a real good argument for him fighting for the title as well For sure But that fight was so controversial and so hyped up I would like to see that fight again Rematches are tough But don't you think if anyone deserves to be Woodley How long he was just fucking the reigning chair?

[1209] Right but I all say the same thing about Steepay Miotich Steepay was the motherfucker for years He won more title fight defenses than any heavyweight in the history of the sport He's number one most successful heavyweight of all time beat nothing but world champions right beat nothing but world motherfucking champions alster ovarim fabricio verdun junior dos santos orlovsky world motherfucking champions and uh you know and then fights ingano who's fucking terrifying beats ingano guy can't get a break he can't get a fight why can't he get a fight because he didn't sell paper views that's crazy it's the only reason the world is a terrible place talk to your boy um you could do stepey cane uh well can't have to get another knee surgery now is he for sure how the way his knee went out how is it possible have you heard anything about his knee i have not you don't think it was a knee problem you think was the uppercut have you heard any update on his name i haven't but i haven't asked you know i could probably trust me his team his ass dc his team would have released something because his team said something really ridiculous.

[1210] That he didn't get knocked out?

[1211] That he got hit behind the head with an illegal shot first.

[1212] How dare you, A .K. And I love crazy Bobcock.

[1213] It was Javier.

[1214] Javier must have been, maybe had a few moderators in him.

[1215] He's a down -ass dude, and I like that.

[1216] But you're full of shit.

[1217] You're full of shit.

[1218] He's down for his friend.

[1219] Well, we were saying we watched that punch and it didn't even land.

[1220] It landed on like the shoulder.

[1221] Yeah, it was the shoulder.

[1222] Cuff the shoulder.

[1223] But that short shot, I just did a food truck diaries on below the belt with Francis and he showed me the exact punch.

[1224] Because I was like, people are saying, he was not happening.

[1225] Yeah.

[1226] Here it is.

[1227] King Velazquez lost a freak.

[1228] My knee gave out of me. But no, there was, it wasn't him.

[1229] It was, Javier Vasquez said, it was an illegal punch.

[1230] Come on, Bill.

[1231] You just got to take the loss and back to the draw.

[1232] First of all, that's not an illegal punch when you're swinging on the feet.

[1233] It's illegal on the ground.

[1234] If a guy is swinging and a guy ducks and you hit him in the back of the head, there's not a single referee on the planet Earth has ever...

[1235] No, it's ever...

[1236] There's not a single referee in the planet Earth that has ever said that's bad.

[1237] Not only that, a good percentage of head kicks are illegal shots.

[1238] Behind the air.

[1239] Behind the ear.

[1240] A lot of Wonder Boy likes that sneaky question mark kick.

[1241] He throws that shit behind the ear.

[1242] So does Barbosa, so does cowboy.

[1243] Comes right over the shoulder, whack.

[1244] But with Kane, that's not even an issue because that punched didn't land there.

[1245] Right.

[1246] The issue is the uppercut which turned the lights off, which causes knee to buckle.

[1247] Right.

[1248] But here's where you know he was punched.

[1249] if there was a knee problem with this with this kind of dilemma about his knee his team would have reported he's going for knee surgery there's an MCL there's nothing they're just like all right let's just move on so you do Stepey Ken well holler at your boy Kay might be in a position where he doesn't want to have any more knee surgeries but his knees are weak come on bro no but I'm saying if you got hit with that punch maybe in another world like his knee wouldn't have given out like that he would just got rocked he would have just got rocked maybe maybe but him versus stepe's the fight It's a good fight.

[1250] It's a good fight.

[1251] I'm sure Stipe would like it, but I mean, what Stipe really wants is another shot at D .C. Not happening, bro.

[1252] Maybe thinks that that's the way to get to D .C. The UFC would have done it if by now.

[1253] Yeah.

[1254] There's a million reasons to do it.

[1255] D .C., also for D .C., it makes no sense.

[1256] He knocked him out so fast.

[1257] You can't get any more impressive than that.

[1258] It's kind of like Jose Aldo Connor.

[1259] Yeah.

[1260] Right, right, right, right.

[1261] I fucking starched him.

[1262] What do you have everything to lose now?

[1263] Yeah.

[1264] What do you want me to do?

[1265] So DC's going to get Brock And probably right off the sunset Although I was trying to tell Francis He needs to let D .C. just do his thing dip out And then he can become the heavyweight champion.

[1266] And D .C .'s looking for like a big fight And that's it.

[1267] That's it.

[1268] I mean, apparently his coaches have already said Look, you've got a real legitimate career as a broadcaster And he does.

[1269] He's excellent as an analyst.

[1270] You him and Annick are the best.

[1271] I love it.

[1272] That's the best relationship.

[1273] and I'm not throwing shade at Dom I love doing it with Dom too I love doing it with Dom I bet not as good chemistry well you know what it is it's a weird dynamic DC and I are silly we're silly Dom's not silly no Dom's not silly no Dom and I laugh a little bit he's like over serious whereas he's an expert like when Rose Nomal Yunas won and he's yelling out thug Rose DC DC's he's fun man you DC and Annick's the best commentating team on the planet when it's you and Dom there seems to be this weird dynamic where I don't vibe with it Really?

[1274] I think a lot of people are on board with that.

[1275] That's interesting, because I like it a lot.

[1276] Again, it's not bad, but it's not you, D .C. and Anik.

[1277] But Dom, without you, even with you, he's amazing.

[1278] He's one of the best.

[1279] But it's just not as good.

[1280] Okay, I get it.

[1281] It's just, I agree with his corner, though.

[1282] I would like to see maybe one more fight out of D .C. And then, look, he's got his wits about him.

[1283] He's got his brains.

[1284] He's the best.

[1285] He's an amazing person.

[1286] Like when you hang out and talk to him He's a sweetheart of a guy The best And he could talk great He's funny He's very articulate And as a wrestler Unparalleled I mean his skill His understanding of the game As a heavyweight You could argue He was the greatest of all time Dana just did Did he?

[1287] Dana just made that argument He said I think that D .C. He's the best of all time That's fair You can totally make that argument He's never lost Starge Stebe was the best of all time Yeah but he's only fought Once in the UFC at heavyweight Other than this With Frank Meir But dude what he did in the strike Force Grand Prix is insane insane didn't he fight um who else did he fight at heavyweight in the UFC did he fight um roy he fought roy right roy and roy was in the uc roy and frank mayor yeah and beat both those guys yeah wasn't even a beat the brakes off both of them yep and then starch steppe but i think without cutting weight he just feels so much better that's why if he's going to fight john we got to do at a heavyweight oh i know how light heavyweight goes get out of here you think so still yeah 100%.

[1288] You do it at heavyweight.

[1289] What do you think happens at heavyweight?

[1290] I think DC has a chance, baby.

[1291] I'll put my money on him.

[1292] Because DC can knock bitches out at heavyweight.

[1293] And he's the one who can land on John.

[1294] He gets dirty.

[1295] Do you think that John would want that fight?

[1296] Do you think that would be, that could be like a giant 4th of July fight.

[1297] Dude.

[1298] Bomb, bum, bum.

[1299] Why don't you and I call Dana White and say, we would like to take over the matchmaker occasionally?

[1300] We would like a celebrity matchup.

[1301] sort of deal.

[1302] Just let me get my beque.

[1303] I don't want to take anything away from McManor and Sean Shelby.

[1304] Those guys are great.

[1305] But just let us let us make five fights a year.

[1306] Do you hate ratings?

[1307] We'll help you.

[1308] Do you hate money?

[1309] We'll promote this shit out of it.

[1310] I'll make your posters.

[1311] We'll do what we can.

[1312] Here's what you do, Uncle D. What do we do?

[1313] You do DC John heavyweight for the world title.

[1314] What's the undercard?

[1315] Francis Brock.

[1316] Do you really think Brock's going to take that fight?

[1317] Yeah.

[1318] But Brock wants the title, and that's a route.

[1319] He wants D .C. DC's almost...

[1320] That's a terrible flavor.

[1321] DC's only a little taller than me. I know.

[1322] You know?

[1323] He's for real.

[1324] Don't let him fool you.

[1325] He looks small and like your dad, you know, but he'll beat the shit out of you.

[1326] He'll beat the shit out of you.

[1327] He's a tank.

[1328] He's as wide as a house.

[1329] And, you know...

[1330] Dude, Brock...

[1331] That's what Brock wants.

[1332] Dude, Brock Francis.

[1333] Picture the poster.

[1334] Just take that in for a hospital bill.

[1335] Oh, dude.

[1336] Picture of Brock's the remaining years of Brock's life.

[1337] I asked Francis about that, and he goes, I don't, I don't, I don't chase.

[1338] I chase nobody.

[1339] He's not serious.

[1340] I went, oh.

[1341] Hey, what, the funny thing is you standing next to Francis is almost like me standing next to you.

[1342] He's so, God damn big.

[1343] Oh, did you?

[1344] So, yeah, we're on a curb.

[1345] We're on a curb.

[1346] I go, stand here, dude.

[1347] You're like huge.

[1348] And everyone's going to freak out on the internet.

[1349] He's so big.

[1350] He looks huge.

[1351] 265 natural.

[1352] I asked him, I, well, what do you?

[1353] you walk around that.

[1354] That's what he said.

[1355] He was 65, 66.

[1356] Did you ask him about wrestling?

[1357] A little bit.

[1358] You know, with those food drug diaries, I try to get a little salient and get those guys that fun.

[1359] Look at that.

[1360] With Francis, he talked about how he kind of felt like a loser after the steep fight.

[1361] Well, there's no way around that.

[1362] It was fascinating.

[1363] No, it was fascinating conversation.

[1364] He said, he kind of felt like a loser and how he didn't feel like himself and how he felt pressure to take the fight.

[1365] He was not ready.

[1366] How well is he, like, talking?

[1367] Do you think I could get him on?

[1368] Do you think it would work?

[1369] Be tough.

[1370] Yeah.

[1371] Be tough.

[1372] He's getting better at English, though.

[1373] Because when I first interviewed him, I remember way back in the day when he had the dreads, I first interview him, he was having a real hard time understanding me. But he's definitely better at it now.

[1374] He's getting better.

[1375] And, you know, yeah, when he loosens up, it'd be tough to do two hours with you.

[1376] Dana White says Damien is getting the Brock Lesnar fight.

[1377] Yeah, but we don't know what Brock's doing.

[1378] Is that today?

[1379] This post is from an hour.

[1380] ago but this has more to do with uh i guess brock lesnar fight he said that at the post fight press conference yeah i saw that but there's no announcements when dc said when cormier is fully healed from his injuries oh he's got an injury yeah he's been injured what's going on um i forget he had a problem with his hand before the derrick lewis fight decided to take the fight anyway and because stepe offered the fight and that's why he's like dude i'm injured i'm not going to fight you when i'm injured he goes i'll fight derrick lewis that might must make feel like shit for stepe he must be like god damn don't you feel bad for stebe yeah because like if dan yquamey wasn't injured he would have got that shot like if his hand was okay he would have got that shot in new york but now stepey's never going to get that shot dude how about john stepe i feel i'm just spitballing yeah i like gems here but i feel i feel i feel i feel terrible for stepe i really do me too because i mean there's no how long has it been since he lost the title a year it's been a hot year a year How long has it been?

[1381] And he's trying to fight.

[1382] June?

[1383] It was 226.

[1384] Oh my God.

[1385] 2 .26.

[1386] So a fucking year.

[1387] More than a year.

[1388] D .C .'s fought twice.

[1389] Dude, more than a year.

[1390] February.

[1391] Fuck.

[1392] It was July.

[1393] Oh, what are you talking about?

[1394] Do you not know how to count?

[1395] No, that's what it was.

[1396] How dare you?

[1397] Why did you say 226?

[1398] Oh, oh, oh.

[1399] I thought you were saying, not the day.

[1400] No, not the day.

[1401] You'll say 226.

[1402] Okay.

[1403] I was like, how dare you?

[1404] But still.

[1405] How dare you make that mistake?

[1406] You FC 226.

[1407] Okay.

[1408] Well, that's July.

[1409] So that's not quite a year.

[1410] D .C.'s been relevant.

[1411] He's fought twice since that lost loss.

[1412] Steepi hasn't fought.

[1413] Damn.

[1414] It's heartbreaking.

[1415] Damn.

[1416] John Jones, Stebe.

[1417] Coach Javier Mendez can't understand why Steve Amiotchik is waiting for it.

[1418] Yeah, he needs to move on.

[1419] It's not happening.

[1420] I don't think he necessarily is waiting for it.

[1421] No, he is.

[1422] He even taunted D .C. He wants it, but I don't think they're offering him a valid fight in the meantime.

[1423] I haven't heard any big fights that are being mentioned.

[1424] I mean, obviously, I could be wrong.

[1425] You know.

[1426] Well, the only thing they could really offer him is what?

[1427] It's funny, I have all these questions, and I don't ever call Dana.

[1428] Dude, come on, bro.

[1429] I don't call Sean Shelby.

[1430] I don't call McManner.

[1431] I sit here with you, we talk shit.

[1432] We just speculate.

[1433] Total speculation.

[1434] Total speculation.

[1435] It was interesting being on ESPN for the first time.

[1436] That was interesting.

[1437] How so?

[1438] It's interesting.

[1439] Yeah, I'm holding an ESPN handle on the microphone, you know, it was interesting.

[1440] And knowing that it's on ESPN.

[1441] It's very exciting.

[1442] It's very exciting to know that it's on ESPN now because I think that's going to make a big deal with casual fans.

[1443] I think it's going to allow the sport to grow.

[1444] And the ESPN fights were spectacular.

[1445] They put on a good product.

[1446] They did a great job.

[1447] When I turned on ESPN, I do every morning, I start my morning, is they had a picture of Bryce Harper, who just signed like a $3 .2 .gillion dollar deal.

[1448] with the Philadelphia Phillies and John Jones that was the flyer Wow It's like it's mainstream That's giant Like Fox could never do that No no Fox was great And Fox put the UFC on the map And I think Fox really did a fantastic job Over those seven years But there's a big difference Going to ESPN is like Holy shit we're on ESPN It's like this is For sports You go to any fucking sports part ESPN's always on So every fight is on And they're gonna have a shit ton of fights And if you have ESPN Plus, you can watch all the old fights, you know.

[1449] Plus at the bottom, just the scroller, say John Jones, like breaking news.

[1450] ESPN Inc's exclusive rights deal with PFL Mixed Martial Arts League.

[1451] Oh, interesting.

[1452] What is a P. Oh, that's things.

[1453] That's my boy, Seth's league.

[1454] That's interesting.

[1455] Thursdays, I believe.

[1456] I think they have something like 10 events for the year right now.

[1457] Okay, that is excellent.

[1458] And they have a playoff.

[1459] That is excellent.

[1460] That is so good for, for, MMA.

[1461] It's so good.

[1462] 10 PFL events in 2019.

[1463] Outstanding.

[1464] They do the playoffs.

[1465] Live across ESPN 2.

[1466] ESPN Deportes and ESPN Plus.

[1467] Fantastic.

[1468] So good.

[1469] So good for everybody.

[1470] I can't believe Vinnie Magales lost.

[1471] I was so sure he's going to win the whole thing.

[1472] I mean, he's so fucking good, man. When it comes to the ground game, there's a freak.

[1473] He's a freak.

[1474] There's not a light heavyweight on the planet.

[1475] ESPN also just signed Tyson Fury.

[1476] Really?

[1477] So now you're not getting Tyson Deonti Wada?

[1478] I heard about that.

[1479] What the fuck is that about?

[1480] What did Tyson say something crazy?

[1481] Like, why would he fight him again when he got robbed of a decision in the last fight?

[1482] I heard that.

[1483] I was like, is he drinking again?

[1484] Dude.

[1485] How about this?

[1486] How about Showtime, my boys?

[1487] They had the trailer.

[1488] They had the hype video ready to launch on Monday.

[1489] Tyson signed with ESPN Monday morning.

[1490] No one knew.

[1491] nobody fucking knew I feel bad for Deontay it's heartbreaking I feel bad for Deontes because Deontes almost put him out in that final round you know and I think you can make a real argument that Tyson won the decision for sure but when you get dropped twice and get dropped one time in the most horrific fashion I mean and now they say the fight's not happening that's crazy it's the biggest problem in boxing I don't like it so angry that makes me angry It's because there's different promoters.

[1492] That's why the UFC jumpfrog the boxing a long time.

[1493] Sort of, but I mean, look, that fight could have been made.

[1494] Do you think that maybe Tyson didn't want to fight him again?

[1495] Nope.

[1496] I think it's his handlers, his representation go, dude, let's sign with ESPN, get a seven -figure deal.

[1497] You can fight two bums, and then we'll circle back to Wilder.

[1498] Well, maybe.

[1499] That's boxing.

[1500] Maybe.

[1501] I mean, there's an argument that that's a good move financially, I guess.

[1502] It's heartbreaking.

[1503] Heartbreaking.

[1504] Right here.

[1505] Oh, Here it is.

[1506] I wanted to cry.

[1507] I wanted to cry.

[1508] That's sad.

[1509] It's so fresh.

[1510] But it does open up Anthony Joshua, Deante Wilder, which is very exciting.

[1511] A little bit, but yeah, no time soon because Deontes is still going to fight in May, maybe Dillian White, maybe Louis Ortiz.

[1512] Yeah.

[1513] Louis Ortiz is still fucking dangerous.

[1514] Daly White's a motherfucker.

[1515] Yeah.

[1516] So then, you know, yet Anthony Josh should be great but he's fighting big baby miller yeah and that's a tough fight for him big baby miller's got some fucking power you don't think so no that's in madison square garden too right first time anthony joshua is fighting in the united states though yeah when you fight in the united states diomteau fuck tyson fury wow that's his next that seems like a fake name that's like he's a former football player of like a dude's name is breeze you call him brazil Fuck Dominic Brazil Boxings In May my mandatory So frustrating However you got Mikey Garcia Earl Spence coming up That's amazing We should do a fight campaign for that When is that?

[1517] March something Am I in town I don't know We should do a fight companion For boxing We don't have any fight companions For boxing Right Yeah give me an excuse to do Hold a second That's a good one to do it on What does it say Jamie What do we got?

[1518] Oh Daddy's home Daddy's in Miami.

[1519] What?

[1520] You son of a bitch.

[1521] That's next week, son of a bitch.

[1522] That's next week.

[1523] Yeah.

[1524] Next Saturday.

[1525] Next Saturday.

[1526] I'm at the Miami Improv.

[1527] How fuck is it already March?

[1528] Crazy, dude.

[1529] This year is flying by.

[1530] January was the longest one.

[1531] We're going to be 85 years old before you know it.

[1532] We're going to be like Larry Merchant over here talking shit.

[1533] Remember when Larry Merchant said to Floyd Mayweather?

[1534] Oh, those your age, I'd kick your ass.

[1535] Classic.

[1536] Fucking classic.

[1537] It's ridiculous.

[1538] thing to say.

[1539] What a great thing to say.

[1540] What the greatest boxers of all time.

[1541] Oh.

[1542] He's fucking such a crotchety old dude though.

[1543] It's going to be us one day.

[1544] 85 years old.

[1545] Colin fights.

[1546] You think we'll still be doing companions?

[1547] Old as fuck?

[1548] Yeah.

[1549] Yeah.

[1550] Well, someone's going to drink themselves to death on a live show.

[1551] It's probably going to be Eddie.

[1552] I'll have a heart attack.

[1553] We should start bringing it to other people too occasionally, especially when Callan's out of town because Callan's always busy Yeah But he brings the cheese Though nothing's like the four of us though The chemistry with the four of us You can't fuck with it No it is the best And it's the most fun By far It's the most fun to watch fights Everyone brings a different dynamic Yeah But they're talking over Oh my God I tried to listen to it You did I tried to listen to some of it Why would you do that?

[1554] Because I want to know what it sounded like When everybody's talking over everybody It's terrible I haven't been that drunk And I in a long time And it was awesome people for whatever reason love those kind of chaos shows like that Alex Jones show they love chaos they love drunk and stone and and interdimensional child molesters and fucking they love all that shit they love it off the charts nuts that Alex Jones one though I told you I've never been a fan of his then I watch it I'm like kind of like him now people are mad at me some people are mad at me but you know there's nothing I could do about that they were going to be mad at me anyway but one The one of the things that they were saying was, you know, fuck you for, uh, they were saying, giving him a platform for normalizing him.

[1555] I'm like, you got to understand.

[1556] That's how I know him.

[1557] I know him.

[1558] I know him.

[1559] I know that guy.

[1560] That's all your friends.

[1561] Yes, that guy that came on here.

[1562] And this is the guy that, by the way, on his show said he was going to kick my ass and break my legs and fucking all kinds of crazy shit.

[1563] And I want to fight him in the UFC fight.

[1564] I'm an offer him a million dollars.

[1565] Like, I, I knew, I knew him.

[1566] I know the real.

[1567] him.

[1568] I'm like, when we're not in front of each other, you can say crazy shit and like, I'm immune, man. I don't care.

[1569] I don't care anymore.

[1570] Plus, he's doing an entertainment show.

[1571] He is doing entertainment.

[1572] But what I know is the Alex Jones that was here.

[1573] And by the way, he was right about a lot of shit.

[1574] A lot of the crazy shit they were saying about about fucking human pig hybrids that they're working on those and actually making human pig hybrid fetuses.

[1575] That's real.

[1576] They really are.

[1577] The problem is, is he throws so much shit out there.

[1578] at one time, I don't know what to believe in what I'm not to believe.

[1579] And I don't have time to look into all of it.

[1580] And you've got to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, start over again.

[1581] What?

[1582] What's happening on the moon?

[1583] He's for sure a little crazy.

[1584] I like crazy.

[1585] But he's crazy.

[1586] But I think that crazy is okay.

[1587] And it's entertaining.

[1588] And I'm not a fucking child.

[1589] So if you want to nurf the world and make the world so that only children can watch everybody.

[1590] Because like make things that are own, that are safe.

[1591] for everyone, including children.

[1592] Well, I don't want that.

[1593] I'm a discerning adult.

[1594] I'm pretty rational, and I can figure out what's real and what's nonsense.

[1595] Dude, speaking of children, did you see the Michael Jackson?

[1596] I did not, but I heard it was horrific.

[1597] It's crazy.

[1598] You know, Tim Dillon is so fucking funny.

[1599] You see Tim Dillon's thing?

[1600] No, what he said?

[1601] Tim Dillon is pretending that Michael Jackson was a pimp and he was banging bitches.

[1602] Go to his Instagram.

[1603] Have you had Tim on your show?

[1604] Is that the big guy?

[1605] Yeah.

[1606] The comic?

[1607] Yes.

[1608] no dude you gotta get him on really i'll have mon anytime he's in town he's fucking hilarious he's a new york guy too right yeah he's a funny dude listen to this listen this problem with this michael jackson documentaries there's no fucking music in it the whole thing is fucking boring it's all fucking interviews i fast forwarded through all that shit i want to see the bitches the guy's the king of fucking pop you know he's fucking all the time he was fucking elvis's daughter lisa marie presley you know Neverland Ranch was just fucking pussy because they're trying to make him look like oh some humanitarian oh he helps sick kids he lets him sleep with him we get it he was a good guy and another thing so there's this scene as it kind of half listening apparently some kid walked in on him fucking some bitch and the kid knows like every one of his moves everything he was fucking doing was like what kind of sick kid sneaks into Michael's room while he's fucking a chick it's kind of crazy that's the problem with kids that's why you can't help kids word to the wise help adults Jesus Christ He's a ridiculous guy man You have him on He's very funny He's super into conspiracy theories Oh is he?

[1609] Yeah yeah yeah deep in He brought me a book so he want to bring you back Bring it back to the fold But he's a smart guy He's a smart guy Dude when he said When you got him on he said The comments are brutal shab He goes someone said Oh why's Rogan having Roseanne on again you see rosanne she went on kandis old and said all over the me too girl's a bunch of hos and they were all just selling sex to try to get successful it's hilarious rosanne doesn't give a fuck especially now they forced her out but she's like good good but they fucked up so hard kicking her out that show was number one and now like no one even cares about it i don't i don't see a market they might keep it on just for spite just so she couldn't say i told you so But we know no one's watching it.

[1610] Yeah.

[1611] You fucked up.

[1612] No one's watching it.

[1613] I don't want to watch that Michael Jackson thing.

[1614] First of all, it's weird because he's not alive.

[1615] He's not alive to defend himself.

[1616] Correct.

[1617] It's also stories and, you know, people tell the truth in stories sometimes, and sometimes they don't.

[1618] And you don't know.

[1619] You don't know.

[1620] And also, there was, you know, like, it was always weird.

[1621] Like, people, no one knew why with all the rumors that everybody had ever heard about, Michael Jackson that anybody would let their kids go and hang out with him like when you watch the documentary like these parents are fucking morons I don't get it man two of the fathers have committed suicide since this happens oh Jesus Christ we don't have any hard evidence that he was molesting kids right all we have his rumors well here's the thing court he was acquitted here's the problem the doctor his very doctor said that he was chemically castor Talking about the guy who killed him.

[1622] Yes.

[1623] That guy said he was chemically castrated by his parents to protect his voice.

[1624] So you have no testosterone, right?

[1625] Exactly.

[1626] Not just no testosterone.

[1627] So do you still bust nuts?

[1628] I mean, me?

[1629] I don't think so.

[1630] One of the other weird things I saw that was like facts you should know from the documentary was that he had something to do with the sound in the room.

[1631] The hallway leading up to his bedroom was wired so that footprints would make a ding -dong sound in the room.

[1632] It's just a very strange thing to just have in general for any purpose But if you grow up in the spotlight Because remember he was such a big star You might have some anxiety Right maybe he didn't want anybody walking in on a naked or something Or he don't want anyone walking in while you're touching boys It could be that Look who the fuck knows?

[1633] We don't know We don't know However what do you think Jamie Am I off?

[1634] I know I'm just saying some of the facts I remember He spent like 30 straight nights With like a 12 year old at his at his house In between the kid's mom's house in his dad's house because they were a divorce and they're paying for so many of his parents There's so much video There's so much video of him and this little boy holding hands And the boy in the video goes, yeah, we would hold hands and we had a signal We'd rub each other's palms when we were thinking sexually about each other However, you got to chalk it up to the shitty parents Because if John Legend came to my house It was like, dude, I love Tiger.

[1635] You mind if I'd take him out For a little while But get your goddamn mind You're not going anywhere.

[1636] Well, not only that, and John Legend's not a pedophile.

[1637] No, I'm just...

[1638] But they didn't know Michael Jackson was at the time.

[1639] But everybody knew there was something up.

[1640] Not the time.

[1641] He was the biggest star in the world back then in the 90s?

[1642] I remember.

[1643] People knew some shit was up.

[1644] In the 90s?

[1645] Yeah.

[1646] No. Yes.

[1647] You made good music, you fuck.

[1648] No, no, no, no. I know he did.

[1649] Everybody knew something was weird.

[1650] Really?

[1651] I didn't.

[1652] He was always hanging around with kids.

[1653] Yeah.

[1654] Because he loved to help kids.

[1655] You're younger.

[1656] You're younger than us.

[1657] Way young.

[1658] You got to trust me. You're at the same age.

[1659] True.

[1660] Like the same month almost.

[1661] And you knew something was up?

[1662] Yeah, yeah.

[1663] Jamie's more on the ball than you.

[1664] He's always online.

[1665] You're out getting pussy.

[1666] James's online.

[1667] Legit point.

[1668] Legit point.

[1669] Well, well played, sir.

[1670] Well played.

[1671] I just feel like it's too weird.

[1672] It's too weird to let your kids hang out with this grown man all those times.

[1673] I think he was mentally ill. And what his family says, they go, no, no. A lot of you are confusing him for being, he didn't have a childhood.

[1674] His dad robber of his childhood.

[1675] I think that's true, too.

[1676] So inside, he felt like he was nine years old.

[1677] So he missed out on the sling.

[1678] leapovers in video games so he would get friends with kids and as I'm saying out loud him it's bad shit crazy bat shit crazy I think all those things that you're saying are true but I also think it's true that he was probably chemically castrated I really think that's true because I've said that a long time ago I said yeah I think he's a castrato the way his voice is why why tell him that it's human nature it's just the that voice is just not a man's voice it's not even a falsetto voice it's like a woman's voice if he's castrated then he would have zero testosterone to molest kids yeah yeah well he might not have been doing it because he was horny he might have been doing it because he was just weird well these kids said he was busting nuts the kids in the video said like he would jack himself off in front of him boy it'll make you sick to your stomach his wife but the woman that gave birth to his two kids said she never had sex with him yeah that's more likely I don't know If you're chemically castrated, that means your body doesn't produce any testosterone anymore, but it doesn't mean that you can't shoot it into your body.

[1679] And, you know, you could shoot test into your body.

[1680] But if you have no nuts, you're not making semen.

[1681] Yeah, if your balls are dead.

[1682] But you, is it semen or sperm?

[1683] Yeah, I just think sperm's from the nuts and then, like, your prostate and there's some other things that get the juice together.

[1684] The juice.

[1685] I don't know.

[1686] I'm not a doctor, obviously, either.

[1687] Clearly.

[1688] Is that a technical term?

[1689] The whole thing is.

[1690] It's fucking super weird.

[1691] It's super weird.

[1692] It just makes me sad.

[1693] It makes me so sad.

[1694] But it's also, there's a lesson to be learned there in so many different ways.

[1695] But one of the big lessons to be learned is that you never want to be that famous.

[1696] That was my takeaway.

[1697] When I was watching my girl, I go, can you imagine being that famous?

[1698] And she goes, yeah, it's probably awesome.

[1699] No, hold on.

[1700] You know how we like to go to the mall?

[1701] We like to go out to eat?

[1702] That's gone.

[1703] You can't do that anymore.

[1704] Yeah.

[1705] That's all gone.

[1706] That's all gone.

[1707] People would start a riot.

[1708] They'll take that away from you.

[1709] Your normal life is not over.

[1710] You just stay in your house.

[1711] But yeah, that's why he developed an amusement park.

[1712] Like you made his house a fucking amusement park.

[1713] They set this up for him to go grocery shopping.

[1714] They had a fake, they emptied a grocery store and paid people to be shoppers so he could have the experience of what it's like to be normal.

[1715] What?

[1716] Going through like a Ralph's or whatever.

[1717] and like have interactions with people like, hey, how's it going?

[1718] Oh, Jesus.

[1719] Look how weird this is.

[1720] Well, they should make it realistic like L .A. Like, suck off.

[1721] So he hired people so he could do that.

[1722] And he wore a hat.

[1723] And he's dancing around the...

[1724] He's so weird.

[1725] Everything was weird, man. Everything was weird.

[1726] Don't you feel bad for him, though?

[1727] Oh, yeah.

[1728] So weird.

[1729] You know how much he's worth?

[1730] I don't know.

[1731] $1 .7 billion, they say.

[1732] But that's after he died.

[1733] See, the thing is when he died, he got super rich.

[1734] He was actually in the hole before he died.

[1735] No, because there's like MC Hammer broke, where when he talked to MC Hammer, he's like, what are you talking about?

[1736] He's like, there's like, you know, publicists broke where they released that.

[1737] You go bankrupt.

[1738] He was that was fine.

[1739] I was bawling.

[1740] I think it was Michael Jackson.

[1741] Yeah, he owned the Beatles catalog.

[1742] Oh, so that's where he had all's money?

[1743] He bought all the originals, the masters of his and the Beatles.

[1744] That's right.

[1745] Yeah, Paul McCartney was mad about that.

[1746] apparently.

[1747] He told him, he gave him the idea.

[1748] Paul gave me the idea?

[1749] And he's like, oh, good idea.

[1750] I'll be right back.

[1751] So why didn't Paul buy it?

[1752] He's got money.

[1753] Couldn't afford it.

[1754] He has one fourth of the Beatles money.

[1755] Not all of it combined, you know.

[1756] Right.

[1757] Do you think how, there's no stars like Michael Jackson now?

[1758] You can't.

[1759] Right.

[1760] You can't do it in current society.

[1761] There's pockets now.

[1762] He also owned happy birthday.

[1763] He owned happy birthday?

[1764] He bought the rights to it.

[1765] So that's why you're not allowed to.

[1766] sing in a restaurant i feel like that's over i think you can say it now you can now because it's back into the public domain or maybe after he died it became a dude that's why everyone sings the bullshit happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy i think uh like ask app or bmi could literally come in and just find the restaurant if you were singing yeah and that's because of michael that's so stupid dude what a baller move it's copyright owning happy birthday i want on a money give too bad he doesn't like bitches because that'd be the biggest move ever maybe he did like bitches who knows well who knows the guy's dead he can't defend himself respect shop here's the thing those two dudes who are doing it they were one was the key witness when he got away in court what dudes the dudes in the documentary the two are like oh we got molested the one was the number one key witness who's saying he didn't get molested okay well then he shouldn't be able to say anything both of them were witnesses and now they're like and now they're like well no that's not true we were a young bitch you were 20s how old was he he was in 20s yeah well also like isn't that perjury it means he lied in court be fucked you can't lie in court either way one way or the other you can't lie to protect somebody and you can't lie to accuse someone either you can't lie i don't know what the deal is i mean that seems like that's something they could drag him to court for and the jackson came out and went well isn't it convenient you guys are coming out now when you're in financial trouble uh of course yeah of course it just seems like a strange thing to do a documentary on.

[1767] Documentaries are killing it lately.

[1768] That's probably probably.

[1769] Look at R. Kelly.

[1770] Yeah.

[1771] He thought he was flying free.

[1772] Pissing on bitches.

[1773] Isn't that?

[1774] Then that documentary came out.

[1775] He's fucked.

[1776] Yeah, he's fucked.

[1777] He's arrested.

[1778] Yeah, they just released him.

[1779] Did you see when they released him?

[1780] Like, he leaves jail and he has to walk through a throng of people.

[1781] People are here.

[1782] And some woman was yelling at him, calling him.

[1783] They took his music off iTunes.

[1784] Really?

[1785] They took down all the shit.

[1786] And all the artists who worked with him took their music down.

[1787] Like, let's say Michael Jackson did get convicted of molesting kids.

[1788] Could you still listen to his music?

[1789] Could you imagine?

[1790] Could you separate it, right?

[1791] Do you know, Tony Hinchcliff, I don't want to give away the bit.

[1792] He has a fucking hilarious bit about that.

[1793] He has a hilarious bit about that.

[1794] Really?

[1795] I haven't heard it.

[1796] I bet he's redoing it now because I don't think it's on his special.

[1797] On his last special?

[1798] I don't think it's on.

[1799] No, I haven't heard it.

[1800] Yeah, dude, Tony Hinchcliff, he's got some fucking, he's got the, new bit about transgender athletes what does it say there daycare affiliated woman who bailed r kelly out of jail receives bomb threat it's a mystery woman bailed him out damn he's looking like shit right there spend stressful time fuck yeah what we're gonna do i don't know so uh upcoming fights let's get back to mma for a few minutes before we get the fuck out of yeah jvs derrick lewis oh kelvin kelvin and israel ad asania that's what i want to see that's next month son.

[1801] That's next month and that is in motherfucking Atlanta, Georgia.

[1802] Is that a pay -per -view?

[1803] Yes, it is, sir.

[1804] Oh, fuck, you're gone, dude.

[1805] Holloway Poirier, too.

[1806] I'll be there for that one.

[1807] Holloway Poirier's a great fight.

[1808] It is a very good fight.

[1809] But Stalbender Kelvin or Kelvin.

[1810] Who won the first fight?

[1811] Holloway.

[1812] Holloway won, right?

[1813] Yeah.

[1814] It was a decision?

[1815] Pretty sure.

[1816] Yeah.

[1817] It's okay.

[1818] Just scroll up.

[1819] Let me see what else is on that card.

[1820] Ovin St. Peru and Nikita Krylov.

[1821] That's right.

[1822] Nickyte used to be a heavyweight.

[1823] Now he's a light of Calil Roundtree, Jr. Eric Anders.

[1824] Ooh, that's a good fight.

[1825] Great fight.

[1826] That's an under the radar fight.

[1827] Montel Jackson.

[1828] You know, Johnny Walker knocked out Khalil Roundtree, too.

[1829] With elbows from the tie clench.

[1830] Yeah.

[1831] And Khalil is a serious striker.

[1832] Wilson Hayes, Alejandro Pawnda.

[1833] A little fact about Kalil Roundtree, you know, used to be over 300 pounds.

[1834] Really?

[1835] Used to be fat as fuck.

[1836] That's crazy because he doesn't have any loose skin.

[1837] I know.

[1838] Some guys, they bounced back good.

[1839] Oh.

[1840] He was young and he was working in that MMA fucking warehouse or something.

[1841] Well, that's the same thing with David Guggins.

[1842] David Gagins, the Navy SEAL.

[1843] He bounced back to it.

[1844] Whoa, look at him.

[1845] 10 year challenge.

[1846] 2010 and 2016.

[1847] That's only six years.

[1848] Six year challenge.

[1849] Imagine you break up with him and six years later he's jacked.

[1850] Dude, dime piece.

[1851] Look at that boy now.

[1852] I'm just tired of you being all fat and getting on top of me and I can't breathe.

[1853] It's over, Khalil.

[1854] Now he's like, what's up, bitch?

[1855] Six years later I'm hot Big fat dick still there Dude knocked out Gokan Saki with one punch He's a beast God damn That just shows you like How crazy powerful What Johnny Walker is man Ridiculous Ridiculously powerful What do you do with him next You gotta take it slow Giving him good fights Don't give him Letifie No no Latifi pisses me off Does he why He's so good And he's not gonna be champ How about Cory Anderson Man Nobody's giving Corey Anderson Any love How weird is that?

[1856] I know.

[1857] It's weird.

[1858] You know, and a lot of people say it's because he's not stopping people.

[1859] He's just winning.

[1860] Yeah.

[1861] But he's winning.

[1862] He's fucking beating.

[1863] He beat Latifie.

[1864] See, you're talking about Latifie and not talking about Corey Anderson.

[1865] I know.

[1866] Isn't that industry?

[1867] And I love Corey Anderson.

[1868] Corey, we're sorry.

[1869] Corey, we're sorry.

[1870] But fuck that.

[1871] And Corey's a bow hunter too.

[1872] Yep, that must be fun.

[1873] But fuck that.

[1874] How about Jimmy Manawan, Johnny Walker?

[1875] There's another one on the house, Dana White.

[1876] Well, that is a possibility.

[1877] Yeah, Jimmy Manoa is dangerous.

[1878] I know.

[1879] So is Johnny Walker.

[1880] Serious power.

[1881] Jimmy Manaw is great.

[1882] That fight with Tiago Santos was chaos for as long as it lasted.

[1883] It was amazing.

[1884] Johnny Walker, Jimmy Manawa.

[1885] Yeah.

[1886] Sign me the fuck up.

[1887] Woo.

[1888] Any other brain busters?

[1889] Woo!

[1890] How do you feel like Dustin Poirier, Max Holloway, plays out?

[1891] Max Holley's so goddamn talented.

[1892] So, not having to cut out 45 anymore.

[1893] It's tough fight for Dustin.

[1894] Dustin, you know, I love you.

[1895] I'm glad Dustin got a big fight.

[1896] I'm super, what's interesting is they offered the fight Tony Ferguson, turned it down.

[1897] But hear about this, Dustin Poyer stops Pettus, right?

[1898] Didn't he stop Pettus?

[1899] Right?

[1900] He stopped Justin Gachy?

[1901] Who else did he stop?

[1902] That was his last fight, right?

[1903] But those are two world champions.

[1904] There was another one.

[1905] There was another fight in there where he stopped somebody else.

[1906] X hallway, different animal man. Who else did he stop?

[1907] He stopped someone else that's.

[1908] Gagee, Alvarez, Pettis.

[1909] Alvarez?

[1910] Alvarez.

[1911] Eddie Alvres.

[1912] Another little champion.

[1913] Yeah.

[1914] I mean, those are three, like, legitimate champions.

[1915] I mean, I know Justin Gage was a champion in the PFL, before it was a PFL, right?

[1916] What would they call it back then?

[1917] World Series of fighting.

[1918] Yeah.

[1919] So he win, he beat him, he beat Pettis, he beat Eddie Alvarez.

[1920] And this is that light, heavyweight jump, you know?

[1921] And he also beat Jim Miller.

[1922] I mean, damn.

[1923] His last fight was at 45.

[1924] against Michael, was that at 55?

[1925] 55.

[1926] It might have been 55 with Michael Johnson.

[1927] That was before Johnson went to 45.

[1928] Johnson at 45 is a motherfucker.

[1929] He's a motherfucker.

[1930] Yeah, I mean, I'm really excited about that.

[1931] I'm really excited for Poree.

[1932] He won a big game fight and he got it.

[1933] Yeah, he's got an interim title shot.

[1934] Do you have any idea why Tony Ferguson turned it down?

[1935] I do not know.

[1936] I have not talked to Tony Ferguson.

[1937] I mean, maybe it was because, hey, I already am the fucking interim title holder.

[1938] Why would I fight for the interim title again?

[1939] Max Holloway, though?

[1940] Yeah, I get that But I mean, he already was the interim title holder And then they just took it away from him When he was doing crap I think it's really fucked up He comes back and beats Pettus Here's what's fucked up Is now if the winner Max Always does some poor he's guaranteed a title shot Yeah So Tony's still not gonna get a shot Yeah They were trying to do Cowboy versus Connor And apparently the sticking point Was that it was going to be a co -main event how dare they i think the idea is that they have to have world titles as uh as a main event is who says who that's my it's the wild west dw get your head out of your ass you guys that's a main event shoot him a text i don't i don't have his number he blocked you i think so we're not seen i i i actually like the guy who have no problems i know i try to get you guys together i gave it my best shot i gave my fucking you tried me Sometimes you just got to go separate ways.

[1941] I don't understand it, man. It's weird when you have friends that don't like each other.

[1942] You know, and you're good friends with both of them.

[1943] And they're like, fuck that guy.

[1944] And you're like, all right, man, I don't have to tell you.

[1945] But I don't talk bad about it.

[1946] No, you don't.

[1947] I criticize some, like, the UFC decisions because I do a show, but then I have no issue with them at all.

[1948] I like that, though.

[1949] I mean, look, part of the thrill of these things, it's got to be raging Al. Cowboy was in my office yesterday You know him, White said He wants to fight, he's ready to fight again Wants to fight again Swillick and another opponent for him Maybe rage now He said, does not specify Who's surrounding to be fighting next So it says Hmm Dude, you're telling me Connor Was like, no, I'm not taking the fight If I'm a co -main event Why in the fuck would you make that a co -main event?

[1950] Yeah, he said he could be out of action Until the fall McGregor could be You know, the other things McGregor hasn't fought in so long He hasn't fought MMA in so long It's not good Last fight was Kabib.

[1951] His last fight was Kabib, right?

[1952] But he takes like almost two years off, right?

[1953] He fights Kabib.

[1954] He gets smoked by Kabib, and then he has, how long was it?

[1955] Was that November?

[1956] It was a long time off.

[1957] It's not good.

[1958] No. He needs to be active, like really active.

[1959] It's hard to be active when you're making that much money off.

[1960] That's the problem.

[1961] The whiskey.

[1962] The whiskey, and he made like $100 million off of Floyd Mayweather fight.

[1963] he's making bupah bupah bink of whiskey I'm proud of him He's doing great Tight move Look Between you and him I mean him While he's in the middle of his career And you post career I mean you guys have laid Some interesting Blueprints for fighters So yeah It was October October 2018 That's quite a lot A long time ago That's not good It's not that far November December January February 1 was only five months ago seems like a long time ago that isn't it but he has nothing coming up so by the time he fights he'll be another year yeah that was his last fight yep and it was two years and two years before that was his previous fight yeah it's not good it's not good especially if you want to be crem della crem you just can't fight like that i think he's only interested in big fights like things that excite him now you know because he's got so much money and so much success it's just one of those things can you blame him but here that look at that that main event the main event of that fight was a non -title fight.

[1964] Connor versus Nate Diaz, that was a non -title.

[1965] I believe both times they fought.

[1966] But the last one, the fact that it was a non -title fight, it was also the biggest pay -per -view of all time.

[1967] Dude, whoever recommended that he be co -made event against Cowboy should get their mouths pissed in.

[1968] That's what really is.

[1969] That's so aggressive.

[1970] That's why Dana doesn't like that.

[1971] Well, I don't know who that was.

[1972] I'm not saying Dana recommended that.

[1973] I'm just saying, on Kelly, you're up.

[1974] You're up.

[1975] I believe I can fly.

[1976] God, dog.

[1977] Yeah, all right.

[1978] Let's wrap this up before your voice goes out.

[1979] We did it, dude.

[1980] There's no way I'm doing stand -up tonight.

[1981] No. I apologize to everyone.

[1982] Yeah, you can't.

[1983] Well, everybody who listens to this podcast, well, no, you're not faking it.

[1984] They're going to be pissed.

[1985] And what are you going to do?

[1986] I know.

[1987] You're at the store tonight for a Red Band show?

[1988] But I'm back tomorrow night I'll be back tomorrow night Tomorrow you're good Next week I'm back on tour in Miami Friday Saturday Miami Improv That's next week Then after that I'm in Milwaukee Turner Hall After that I'm in Washington DC DC improv T -FatK dot com All right folks We'll be back tomorrow With more goodness See ya bye