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#696 - Lewis, from Unbox Therapy

#696 - Lewis, from Unbox Therapy

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[0] What a perfect time to have Lewis from Unbox Therapy on when our TriCaster is taking a big, fat shit, because we updated the software.

[1] And then Red Band decides right before the show he's going to update his phone, and it's going to take about 17 fucking hours right in the middle of someone from the DMV supposed to call him.

[2] Yeah, I know.

[3] And that's never going to happen now.

[4] Yeah, I think you guys planned it this way.

[5] You heard I was coming down.

[6] It's like, let's cause as many technical difficulties as possible, and then put him on it.

[7] let's see how much this guy really knows exactly unfortunately the trycasters a little outside the realm of my day to day but um well i wish i could help jami said oh we got to update the software so i go okay and then i thought about it was like man i don't update shit that's right i will wait several like versions before i update like my phone or you know it always annoys me apple's always asking me to update yeah no that's that's certainly the move if especially if it's like a mission critical thing like your phone your main device when you're waiting for a phone call or your tricaster for example yeah this fucking thing Jamie Jesus Christ boy oh yeah yeah yeah video is off we have no video right now well it doesn't matter the video's not on news stream it's not even going live so you fucked it twice it's double fucked now terrific terrific folks if you're viewing this right now enjoy the blackness yeah that's what all black lives matter including the black lives coming out of the tricast blank fucking screens how dare you jamie you didn't even test this shit out how dare you anyway for everybody looking at a blank screen right now like me i'm looking at the blank screen uh most of the people unfortunately for you or audio only anyway so oh it's true yeah listen after the fact Unbox therapy, though, 100 % video.

[8] Yeah, very important to me. Couldn't get by with audio on its own.

[9] Yeah, we're supposed to be showing this, Jamie.

[10] You could periscope it.

[11] No. No. Little side periscope angle.

[12] Well, okay, but what are we going to do about the video?

[13] I'm working.

[14] I know.

[15] The video is still recording on here.

[16] Right, but it's not showing.

[17] So it'll record on here and we'll be able to put it on YouTube and you think.

[18] Maybe.

[19] Allegedly, huh?

[20] Okay, allegedly.

[21] By the way, nobody hears you talk.

[22] I will draw the whole episode just in case.

[23] We have hired a court reporter.

[24] Transcript, old school tech.

[25] So what is it you got here, man?

[26] Oh, yeah.

[27] Virtual reality with, it's, this is fascinating for people who can't see this.

[28] It's virtual reality, it's like a goggle set up with, on the front of it is a Galaxy S6.

[29] Correct.

[30] So a Samsung Galaxy phone is strapped to this headset, so the screen is your field of view.

[31] That's right, yeah, and there's two lenses there, so I'll just open it up real quick.

[32] So the phone sits in and clips out.

[33] Obviously, you still want to use it as a regular phone.

[34] And those are the lenses that will allow you to focus in on the display at an incredibly close range.

[35] Now, the nerds out there, they talk a lot about the resolution of phones.

[36] and some say, oh, well, there's no need to have a phone with a display beyond 1080P, let's say, because at this range here, you would never notice those pixels.

[37] But the minute you stick them in an environment like this, just an inch away from your eyeball, all of a sudden you can discern those pixels that you couldn't at phone usage range.

[38] What happens with people who wear glasses?

[39] Glasses can fit in there.

[40] Okay.

[41] Yeah, you can go with glasses in there.

[42] There's a focus on the top here.

[43] So you can actually focus them in, you know, depending on what vision correction, whatever you have going on.

[44] I've used it with glasses, contact lenses.

[45] So you can adjust it like a pair of binoculars.

[46] Exactly.

[47] Ah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[48] So the cool thing in this particular case compared to, like, some of the other stuff that I've shown off before, like Google Cardboard and the really inexpensive ones, is that since this is designed specifically for this device, you get touch interface, touchpad for controlling taps and stuff.

[49] taps and stuff, this here, yeah.

[50] So that's just like the bottom of your laptop.

[51] Sort of, yeah, like a little click pad, track pad kind of situation.

[52] So you have a little bit of interactivity there.

[53] Other than that, I mean, it sort of does what it looks like it does.

[54] Do you think we should try it out or what?

[55] Yeah, definitely.

[56] Yeah, okay.

[57] It's cool that this stuff is finally coming to light now because this was always when we were kids.

[58] We thought this was the future.

[59] And I kind of think it still is.

[60] Oh, it is.

[61] It just took a while for the technology to catch up.

[62] to, you know, what we expected from it.

[63] So I'm going to get it set up here.

[64] Okay.

[65] Let me just...

[66] I got a call from Duncan Trussell once.

[67] He came back from some conference that they had on virtual reality.

[68] And I'll never forget this because he'll stand in front of the improv and he's screaming.

[69] Dude, this is bigger than the fucking wheel.

[70] This is bigger than the internet.

[71] This is bigger than everything, man. This is a fucking game changer.

[72] Dude, it's a fucking game changer.

[73] It's virtual reality.

[74] It's what the future is.

[75] He just got back from checking out the newest Oculus Rift, the one that you were talking about, the piano demonstration yeah so that one is the mic here sorry i can't see anything anymore um so this one was built sort of in conjunction with oculus so there is an oculus store and library app that you boot into when you put the phone into the into the headset so a lot of the demos that are available on oculus are also available here so i'm going to bring up i'll bring up that one with the piano and then i'll let you check that out oh you can do it right from that?

[76] Yeah.

[77] So that's as good as Oculus Rift?

[78] Well, I wouldn't go that far.

[79] I would say it's more convenient than Oculus Rift and probably arguably more of a game changer in the sense that people don't have to go out and buy this standalone expensive headset and then have a dedicated PC to use it.

[80] Right.

[81] Everyone has a phone, right?

[82] So you're already halfway there.

[83] This...

[84] Are you, Shafir doesn't have a phone anymore?

[85] Oh, I heard about that.

[86] I heard about that.

[87] How do you feel about that when someone fucking completely bales since you're such a technology junkie?

[88] You want to know, I have for folks I don't know where you're talking about.

[89] Ari Shafir gave up on smartphones.

[90] You just uses a flip phone now.

[91] I kind of get it because I feel like I'm so immersed in tech sometimes that I would love to take a step away for a minute.

[92] Like you just booted that phone up.

[93] You said you hadn't booted it in a while.

[94] It's like, barb, bra, all these techs were coming in.

[95] Yeah, exactly.

[96] It's how many times that thing interrupts my day like a smartphone because it's probably i don't know a thousand times maybe like it really has it really trains you like a like a buzzcaller on an animal or something like right so anyway you want to stick this on check it out sure so it looks cool for people who just listen at home it looks like something stormtroopers would wear it's plastic and uh you can there's straps so you can tighten it i don't know if you feel yeah it's a good look on you Very much.

[97] I think something came off.

[98] Yeah, it just slips through.

[99] No, right there, yeah.

[100] Just like a pair of...

[101] Yeah, just like a pair of...

[102] Oh, I see.

[103] Yeah, it's like a pair of ski goggles, pretty much.

[104] Now, you said this also has Bluetooth, so you can hook up, like, headphones wirelessly also.

[105] Right, so every capability that the phone has is still theoretically active.

[106] You know, so...

[107] Are you focusing in?

[108] Yeah.

[109] So try and find the spot where the text...

[110] Is there text on screen right now?

[111] Yeah, it says touch the touch pad to resume.

[112] There you go.

[113] Are you in that space right now?

[114] No, it's better with sound, but this is still pretty good.

[115] And if you kind of...

[116] So I'm watching this guy play the piano.

[117] See if you can find the dog.

[118] Oh, my God, this is nuts.

[119] Yeah, man. I'm...

[120] Okay.

[121] This is for people who are just, they don't know what I'm doing here, I'm looking around the room.

[122] At first, I'm just looking at this guy played piano.

[123] and it's kind of cool although he is a little annoying I don't like the way he sings do you see the smoke do you see the smoke coming off his cigarette in the ashtray no it's beside the the piano there yeah it's slightly pixelated I wouldn't say it's perfect yeah it's it's not high resolution but I heard that the Oculus version is what are that bitch he looks at you every now and then this is so fucking strange I'm looking around this guy's studio.

[124] He has this recording studio here.

[125] I'm just kidding about him.

[126] I'm annoying me, by the way.

[127] I'm just trying to be funny.

[128] And then he puts his phone in his ashtray.

[129] He's throwing shit on the ground.

[130] I guess he's acting.

[131] He's acting.

[132] Yeah, yeah, no, he knows what he's doing.

[133] He has a 360 camera there.

[134] He's got a fake tree in his room.

[135] And as you look around his studio, like, everywhere you look, you can see stuff.

[136] This is the real, what's really a game changer about this technology is that it's, it's really 360 degrees.

[137] Like as you look, everywhere you look, there's something to look at.

[138] Mm -hmm.

[139] And that is fucking strange, man. Yeah.

[140] If they do this with movies, you'll be able to watch movies over and over again because you'll be able to look at it from different.

[141] Okay, now I see the smoke on a cigarette.

[142] There you go.

[143] I have a feeling he makes really whining music.

[144] Well, you're probably right.

[145] To be honest, I really wasn't listening.

[146] It was more about the visual.

[147] Yeah, I'm kind of glad I can't hear him saying.

[148] But there's another one in there, another demo, which is you sitting inside a movie theater.

[149] And so you see the seats around you.

[150] And as the trailer plays on the make -believe movie screen, the colors coming off of it are reflecting off the seats.

[151] And it gives you an incredible feeling of the exact vibe of being inside of a theater.

[152] I have the original Oculus lift, and that was one of my biggest...

[153] what I say Lyft Lyft that it was really pixelated you get the idea how cool it was now is that comparable to that or is this more it's many levels better better than that one yeah here put it on it's many levels better than the pixelated one that Duncan had right Duncan had the series one which was like a wow yeah I think they were like VGA screens I might be wrong about that but yeah it was kind of like playing Doom yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but you kind of got a sense that this was a game changer yeah yeah because even though it was so pixelated you're like well though they're gonna work that out they're gonna iron now you're gonna try and walk around this is dangerous right now yeah don't walk into the tv dude just stand still yeah the dog looks cool yeah don't talk off mic either i just tried to touch the dog yeah it's and the thing and you know part of the conversation here is about content too it's like well how how do you go from having a piece of video and turning it into 360 degree video like he's watching right there and we're seeing more and more 360 cameras come out now there's a one from Google called jump which is this crazy GoPro contraption you may have seen it's uh six or more uh GoPro hero fours which have an incredible field of view and then software is what stitches it all together which is the experience you're seeing in there so theoretically it's not just games and digital things but in the future people will shoot video in 360 and enjoy it in 360 yeah yeah that's what I was saying like they can do that with movies like and you could see the same movie over and over again and you'll decide to go outside you'll decide to go on the porch right you know you'll decide there'll be scenes like you go on the porch and the wife and her sister are going to be fighting right like that I'm fucking leaving him I can't take it right and the guys in the bathroom shooting heroin you go peek in the bathroom we have shooting I don't know why I chose that scene Sounds pretty intense But yeah Choose your own adventure Type scenario Or like mysteries where you're like Opening up cupboards to look for like little pieces of light Yeah if you're like watching it at home Especially if you can actually move around Like on a unit directional If you get one of the unit directional treadmills That operate based on your movement Like they're getting better and better with those They used to be you got strapped in Yeah I've tried one You kind of hold onto the thing but they're getting better and now I think they're developing ones that are detecting which way you're standing and walking so they will move accordingly with you and then eventually they'll get to a point where it's going to be indistinguishable between walking outside and walking on this unidirectional treadmill as long as everything's flat once you start going uphill and then rugged terrain that's not going to work out tough kind of adjustment yeah like hiking Like, you're never really going to be, like, you know, like the ground's off a little bit, left, a little bit right.

[154] Part of the thing, though, about it is, like, I think a lot of people who are into this for consumption are lean back type situations anyways, right?

[155] Right.

[156] Like, it would be like having an exercise show on television.

[157] I mean, how many people actually participate compared to just want to sit there, like a vegetable.

[158] What ever happened of those?

[159] Denise Austin, you remember her?

[160] Yeah, yeah.

[161] They used to have all these, like, you'd work out along, like, get up.

[162] Come on, let's do it.

[163] All right.

[164] They're all on Xbox now.

[165] Do you remember the Israeli guy on the beach who's always really ripped?

[166] No. A handsome guy, black hair.

[167] He used to have this workout and get everybody pumped up.

[168] You don't remember?

[169] I don't think so.

[170] I don't think so.

[171] Jane Fonda.

[172] Jane Fonda had, she had videotapes.

[173] Imagine if you got into the videotape business like a couple days ago.

[174] You're like, I'm going to fucking set the world on fire with DVD sales.

[175] I watched a DVD last night, and I forgot.

[176] The resolution on this are shit when you're watching on a big screen.

[177] I've never realized how.

[178] Regular DVD.

[179] Regular DVD.

[180] Yeah, 480.

[181] I got an email from a company that was offering to transcode all of my YouTube videos into DVDs.

[182] It's like, yeah, I'm probably good.

[183] We're going to send them off in smoke signals.

[184] It was like this huge spiel about how the DVD market is not dead yet, and it could, you know, it could service people who don't have connectivity or something.

[185] It looks like it's working, Jamie.

[186] Yeah.

[187] Yeah, look.

[188] Hooray.

[189] You figure it out, you fuck.

[190] Go jobs Yay We're here Yeah so we're alive Allegedly For now Who knows I might not even be working So this is like Maybe one step In this ultimate 3D reality Reality where Yeah where consumption for us turns into this This three -dimensional thing instead of two -dimensional We dealt with two -dimensional now For what Eight 70 years Or however long Black It's not that long, man. It really stop and think about it.

[191] I mean, it's probably been more than that because, like, what was silent movies?

[192] There was in the 1910s.

[193] Yeah.

[194] 20.

[195] I don't know.

[196] Okay, yeah, maybe tens.

[197] I don't know.

[198] But think about the amount of time.

[199] But Nosferado, wasn't that, like, 1904 or some crazy shit?

[200] That would be amazing if that's true.

[201] Yeah.

[202] I was the earliest silent movie.

[203] I mean, but before that, they had still images, right?

[204] So you had photographs, and they went from photographs.

[205] 1891.

[206] Jesus Christ, were we off?

[207] Holy fuck, man. Wow.

[208] That was Nospheratu.

[209] Or which?

[210] Oh, that's just the first one.

[211] Yeah, well, the first one, the first talkie was the jazz singer in 1927.

[212] You imagine, like, in 1927, people sat down like, they're fucking talking.

[213] No way.

[214] Because they had audio now.

[215] Yeah.

[216] And they probably had to sync it up.

[217] I can remember that was always the big thing With old movies that were synced up bad The sound was Shiddily synced up The lips didn't match the Which still happens now it is Jimmy go to YouTube And there's a video We can't show it Can we show it on this?

[218] Oh it's still fucking up Okay When is Nospherato When I want to say Nostferatu Was like early Early 1900s but it might have been Yeah 22 22 1922 that's a fucking dope movie still to this day like that vampire was a good vampire yeah yeah for back then it was like they did it and they couldn't show much back then because it was obviously it was black and white but it's also if you looked real close you'd be like what the fuck the makeup and stuff what am i looking at yeah but he had like long creepy fingers and he was like some prominent actor of the time if i really i think so uh i don't know maybe i'm wrong i'm no expert but yeah i bet he was i mean but look how fucking they really did a good job well here I'll pull this up here that was that's a creepy oh very creepy very creepy I mean when you think about 1922 what limited technology they had in some ways I mean you really have to appreciate what it used to take oh yeah I was on the set of Independence Day 2 which they're filming is that a thing yeah I don't know if I was supposed to talk about is this new yeah Independence Day 2 Oh, I'd heard about that.

[219] Who's in that?

[220] Someone famous, right?

[221] Yeah.

[222] Hemsworth.

[223] Who?

[224] There's two Hemsworth, right?

[225] Thor?

[226] Who is Thor?

[227] Liam?

[228] There's Liam and there's another.

[229] Is it brother?

[230] They're brothers and they're both.

[231] Both handsome as fuck.

[232] Yeah, unbelievable.

[233] How dare they?

[234] Unbelievable.

[235] Not like that guy.

[236] No. No. See, I would prefer for him to be the leading man in independent states.

[237] It wouldn't be much better.

[238] So he's going to save the world, just like Thor did.

[239] Basically.

[240] Yeah, with his beautiful hair.

[241] But anyhow, I went there and, I mean, we shot, like, we shot for 13 hours for about 20 seconds of what will actually be in the film.

[242] And everything is blue screen.

[243] There's nothing around you anywhere.

[244] They spend, say, a year shooting it and then another year in post -production, just painting everything in artificially.

[245] So it's, it's, you have to kind of appreciate that back then, if they wanted something, it had to happen then.

[246] Yeah.

[247] You had to do it right there in the immediate frame.

[248] That's sort of a dying art, you know?

[249] Oh, like makeup.

[250] Patrick McGee, he's the guy who made that American Whirl from London out in the lobby.

[251] Right.

[252] That guy was like, when I had him on the show, he was talking about, like, those days are kind of going.

[253] And it sucks because when you look at, like, fake monsters in movies, like, perfect examples.

[254] Like, those underworld.

[255] Hulk's a good example, too.

[256] The underworld werewolves.

[257] Yeah.

[258] Like, they look so vague.

[259] Yeah.

[260] kind of cool it's cool what they look like it's video game it's like in a different yeah yeah it's cool yeah but you don't think you're looking at a real thing like the twilight warwolf guys when they turn to the wolves in twilight you're like it the fuck out of here that does not look real yeah it just doesn't look even if it's bad as long as you're looking at a real thing it's not as offensive like the creature from the black lagoon it's kind of bad but you're looking at a real thing there's like a lighting thing Where you can, with the CG, you can tell it.

[261] It's almost like the shadows and reflections are kind of off a little bit.

[262] And even if you're dealing with poor costume or, well, I mean, that thing out there is perfect.

[263] That's better than any CG you're going to possibly get.

[264] Well, they're getting better at it, though.

[265] They're getting better at it.

[266] Certainly.

[267] Like, the wolves in Game of Thrones are like the closest to a real animal.

[268] They still kind of like to me. Yeah.

[269] They still suck.

[270] Yeah.

[271] But there's the closest.

[272] Why couldn't they get a real wolf for that?

[273] They don't listen.

[274] Real wolves do not listen I have a friend who has wolves And they're cool animals But you are not telling them what to do That is not happening Maybe they'll sit for a second If you give them meat But they're on their own little trip There's no There's no evidence ever If somebody having trained one Well you train them But you don't train them like a dog No Like they're fucking Like when I went over his house It's like whoa these are not dogs Like they're looking at you They're checking you out And when you howl, they howl with you.

[275] Like, I would go into his liver room and go, oh, and they would go, they just can't help it.

[276] They can't help it.

[277] They just have to fucking howl.

[278] Shih Tzu's do that awesome.

[279] Yeah, because they're like wolf.

[280] Really?

[281] They're from the wolf family or something.

[282] That's hilarious.

[283] What the hell you're talking about?

[284] Every dog is from the whole family.

[285] But a lot of dogs are more closer to the wolf, I guess.

[286] If that's true, if that's true, is not.

[287] Meanwhile, a husky doesn't do that.

[288] Yeah, I know.

[289] Huskies look like a fucking wolf.

[290] Yeah.

[291] But they're weird, man. That's a weird animal.

[292] You can't, like this guy that had him.

[293] I saw a guy walking two the other day, some old dude, and they had those face things on him that protect, keep their jaw shut.

[294] What do they call those things?

[295] Musks or muzzle.

[296] They were muzzled to keep their face from biting people.

[297] What's funny is they have this new thing.

[298] If we had the internet, I would show you, they have these new muzzles that look like rabid, angry werewolf.

[299] faces so like when they put the muzzle on on the dog the dog looks like it's about to attack see that's not a good move that's not a good move at all because then you have the dog in the park and people yeah it's hilarious this asshole yeah if you see it if you go my dog badass bro my dog's hardcore that's really funny if you see that would be funny it was a smiley face hi I'm smiling yeah um but uh this dude who had the wolves I always felt it was like super irresponsible to have them his wolves got out and they killed a bunch of the neighbor's sheep he lived in Texas he had this spread in Texas like his family had a ranch and he'd go out to the ranch and bring his dog sometimes dogs in quotes they're 7 eighths wolf one eighth dog because you can't own a hundred percent wolf I guess but you can own like really really high level hybrids because you got those people with like cheetahs on their couch I'm sure you could own them if you went to those places right there's some states like Texas has some crazy laws yeah Texas has you could fucking see there's everything in texas they have all these african animals on these high fence hunting operations you can go and hunt just like you're in africa you can hunt like oryx and eilins and all these giant fucking african savannah animals land of the free yeah they have a bunch of different mussels it's a little tiny dog it's kind of cute if it's a pug and then there's like here's one I was talking about like there's they have like crazy looking ones where some are more realistic how do you find out about something like this because he's a little dog yeah oh okay I was thinking of and is your dog bite no if it did you wouldn't even know I'd be like what's going on down there oh I'm getting bit by a dog what the fuck so anyway I don't know how the fuck we got on the subject of wolves I think it was CGI yeah there is that what do they call it the something valley Uncanny Valley Uncanny Valley with people like when they show people Nvidia had a demonstration and we went to it and one of the cool things about the demo was you could see what they can't get yet they can get eyeballs they can get skin they're really good but they can't do eyelashes hair and they can't do yeah hair is bad the guy and the thing was bald and they can't do tongues like tongues like tongues look fake too so well the guy was talking there was no no tongue like you didn't see his tongue it's fucking weird it's like a few thing there's it's like a computational thing like they're when you're dealing with something so refined like strands of hair for example yeah and each one behaving independently like long hair thrashing around is like incredibly complex yeah each piece moves so you would need some incredible hardware to be able to to replicate that but that said it's never stopped the progression in the past i mean i got this uh retro console the other day that plays nintendo games so i could be like a hipster and play the original mario and whatnot and uh it's just amazing that in my lifetime, you know, we've already gone from a little guy who's like eight pixels total as your character in the game to what we're working with now.

[300] Yeah.

[301] There are some clips on YouTube of people who have taken Grand Theft Auto clips and applied intense shaders and things to them.

[302] Have you seen these?

[303] Yeah, it's pretty amazing what they're doing with Grand Theft Auto.

[304] Someone did that, they used God damn, and I just glanced at the article real quickly, but they used like the final scene in a show and imported it into a video video game oh wow yeah god damn i haven't seen that it's probably grand theft auto because they're grand theft auto maker or whatever that they released is pretty intense you can build like your own levels right and things movies and stuff so maybe that's what it maybe mods and but you're talking about how that something like the modded one yeah where they've taken like picks or textures and just took it to the next level so you're looking at it and it's a very slow frame right yeah because again coming back to resource intensive tasks but You can get a sense for what that will be like.

[305] And so, like, bringing it full circle back to this thing here, I think that the more accessible this stuff becomes, so the cheaper that VR gets, and the less that it's tied down to anything, the smaller that it gets, the greater the likelihood that there'll be enough demand that people will then go and produce cool content for it.

[306] Which phone is that?

[307] That's the S6, the Samsung S6?

[308] It's the S6.

[309] you can also get this headset for the Note 4 right now.

[310] For some reason, those two...

[311] This is the newest one that they make.

[312] There are also generic branded ones that you can slip any phone into.

[313] The only issue that arises from that is how to interact with it.

[314] Like, you have these weird switches or buttons sometimes.

[315] You don't have a nice touchpad like this one.

[316] So that's the only thing to consider.

[317] Is it an HTC also make one that's pretty like a...

[318] The vibe.

[319] Yeah, that's a...

[320] standalone headset yeah um people are saying great things about that i haven't tried it yet uh but every manufacturer is apparently interested in it and i've been noticing more and more uploads on youtube it's amazing how youtube sort of has pushed not not just this but like also 4k i upload my videos in in 4k for example they're the you you have these giant productions for television shows and you can't get that content in 4k it's bizarre it's like they spent a hundred million dollars Well, in the case of House of Cards, you could get it in full res. But anyway, you've been able to do that on YouTube for a while.

[321] Now you're getting 360 video on YouTube.

[322] I don't know if you've checked any of it out.

[323] Yeah, I haven't checked that out.

[324] But the 4K is interesting because, like, the new Apple Box, they're saying, the new Apple TV that was announced last week, supposedly doesn't run 4K, which I thought was interesting.

[325] Because is it just that they're not pushing the 4K to the masses yet?

[326] Yeah.

[327] I honestly, I think it's a bandwidth issue, connection issue.

[328] Everybody is sort of held up by the terrible telco situation that exists here.

[329] I did some research recently on, like, internet connections around the world, and, like, North America is insanely bad.

[330] Oh, for internet connections, yeah, terrible.

[331] It's quite surprising comparatively.

[332] South Korea is insane.

[333] South Korea is insane, but even countries you wouldn't expect, like Romania or Latvia.

[334] Like, some of these countries, I sort of often converse with.

[335] my audience members and they send me their speed tests and then tell me what they're paying for it and you get and i'm sure there's plenty of people listening here that are going to start tweeting out their speeds let us know how fast your internet is and what you pay for it but in korea for example i think like ten dollars gets you 100 by 100 up and why is it why is it up so restricted in the united states we have like i have three and that's the fastest you can get three up Three up, I think, is the fastest that I can get on AT &T uvers.

[336] It's something to do, and I'm not an expert on this, but it's something to do with the cable and DSL structure that there's some sort of signal loss, I think, associated with that where for some reason the upload is more labor -intensive.

[337] But when you're talking about fiber is always one by one, right?

[338] If it's not, then usually it's not real fiber.

[339] And in places with smaller geographic areas, it's easier to run fiber from the CO point right to the actual customers because the density of people makes it worthwhile to do so.

[340] And North America, for the most part, is still pretty spread out.

[341] But Google Fiber is emerging in more and more cities and it's completely overhauling, going over the top on the incumbent sort of providers, Comcast.

[342] AT &T, whoever and the scary thing was they were trying to merge recently.

[343] Who was it?

[344] They did merge AT &T and DirecTV.

[345] Oh, did they?

[346] Yeah.

[347] Maybe there's another one.

[348] Yeah, but I don't think that's what...

[349] Yeah, it was Time Warner and something else, right?

[350] I think it was Time Warner and Comcast.

[351] Yeah.

[352] We're attempting to merge and then the FCC or whatever party it was got involved.

[353] Well, when you find out the throttling data and fucking with people that use Netflix and then they made a deal, they had to make a deal with Netflix so that they could get more data because Netflix was they were they were consistently slower when people are using Netflix than anything else.

[354] They fuck with people.

[355] Oh, they hate Netflix.

[356] They hate the internet.

[357] You know, traditional media is always taking shots wherever they can to sort of slow down this thing that's happening online because they don't control enough of it.

[358] But isn't it also because the infrastructure is just not really that good yet?

[359] I mean, they didn't really prepare for the jumps in the internet usage over the last decade or so.

[360] That's true, but But there are things they could have done to sort of limit the effect of that.

[361] Like wireless, for example, like if you're on LTE, all of a sudden you've got 20 megabits up.

[362] Like, how is it that the wireless connections on your, for a lot of people, their cell phone data connection is faster than what they have at home.

[363] Right.

[364] Right.

[365] But it costs you a lot of money because it's not unlimited.

[366] So, like, you could imagine that if you had put up more towers.

[367] or taking down the cost of wireless data, for example.

[368] Like, a lot of countries have had to skip over the wired connections completely.

[369] So if you're in India, for example, they completely skipped, like, laptops and that whole period of time there where everybody was buying a cable connection or a DSL connection.

[370] They're getting cell phones now, and their primary data connection is going to be on that mobile device.

[371] And it's the same in a lot of emerging markets around the world.

[372] So they're like investing specifically in wireless as opposed to like going backwards and trying to make the wired thing work at all.

[373] So that's, so do they have like data caps on wireless?

[374] Yeah.

[375] Oh, it's incredibly expensive.

[376] Yeah, that's, they have, they have data caps and they also limit things like text messages.

[377] This is why instant messaging apps like WhatsApp are so popular elsewhere in the world, people trying to scoot around the, telco's it's not expensive it wouldn't it's expensive relative to what people earn there so what's app what does that do it it lets you use the data on your phone instead of using like text message minutes and exactly yeah it lets you avoid whatever the telco is going to impose for the cost of a text message like a text message is an incredibly small amount of data yet you could be traveling and and your telco could charge you 25 cents for for each one well unless you're on T -Mobile.

[378] Right.

[379] Let's on T -Mobile.

[380] And it's really bizarre.

[381] Even me, okay, so I'm from Toronto, and I'm on Rogers.

[382] Not a huge fan or anything, but I'm just saying, comparatively speaking, like when I travel down here, the maximum that I can pay over top of my regular bill is $5 a day, maximum.

[383] Data calls, whatever.

[384] That's where it's capped out at.

[385] So you're basically using your regular plan, even though you're on AT &T or T. T -Mobile or whoever it is out here.

[386] Now, that's relatively recent, but T -Mobile came out with something that allows for you to cross the Canadian border and the Mexican border and essentially have your exact same plan on both sides.

[387] And most countries.

[388] And most other countries.

[389] My friend just got back from Vietnam, I think it was, or something like that.

[390] And he said there was no difference.

[391] He's like, my phone worked like it was back home.

[392] I didn't get charged up anymore.

[393] Do you have to do data roaming?

[394] Do you have to do roaming?

[395] Do you have to turn on your phone?

[396] Technically, you are roaming, yeah.

[397] Yeah, but do you have to call them and let them know?

[398] No, no, no, no. See, that has always been annoying about Verizon.

[399] Team Mobile is the way to go.

[400] And I did a speed test last night, 61 down, 23 up from my house.

[401] Where my house, the max is three.

[402] On mobile.

[403] Yeah, on mobile.

[404] That's what I'm talking about.

[405] So that's faster than my home.

[406] The max is three?

[407] Three on my home.

[408] What?

[409] So is that DSL or cable?

[410] It's ATTUverse, I guess, fiber or whatever.

[411] But that's supposed to be really good.

[412] No, it's not fiber.

[413] What's the wire that's coming in?

[414] What are you plugging in?

[415] Is it a phone line or a cable connection?

[416] Cable connection.

[417] Oh, okay, yeah.

[418] But I don't know.

[419] I mean, I thought it was fiber.

[420] I get, like, supposedly 50 down and, you know, four up or something like that.

[421] That seems insanely low.

[422] Yeah, there's tons of marketing confusion around the word fiber because it started to get, like, kind of become a hot term.

[423] So everyone wanted to use it.

[424] They wanted it in their diet.

[425] It's true.

[426] That was too easy.

[427] Sorry.

[428] But, yeah, so everyone started throwing it around, even though it's not the real deal.

[429] It's not real fiber.

[430] It's like it'll be fiber for this portion of the trip.

[431] Right.

[432] And then it'll go to copper somewhere in there and you have signal loss and you end up with what you end up with.

[433] Right.

[434] Now, what is the difference in what Google's trying to do?

[435] Google gives zero fucks about any of these players.

[436] They're not trying to even coordinate with them.

[437] They're going into marketplaces, going to the locals, at least as this is.

[438] how fiber worked in the early stages and saying, would you be interested personally in an insanely fast internet connection and here's the price we could give it to you for?

[439] And so people within a community would sign a petition saying yes, I'm interested in that.

[440] And once they could evaluate the demand, they're building the infrastructure themselves.

[441] Whoa.

[442] They have that kind of cash.

[443] Oh.

[444] Yes, they do.

[445] They're Skynet.

[446] I mean, think about all the different shit they have now.

[447] Oh, my goodness.

[448] So weird.

[449] Yeah.

[450] And Google drives, I mean, how many people have their info up on the cloud with Google?

[451] Everything is there.

[452] How come that hasn't been hacked yet?

[453] Probably has.

[454] Great question.

[455] Has it been?

[456] Totally has, right?

[457] Well, I mean, not in any, not in any big sort of immediate way.

[458] I'm sure, listen, if I had to put your trust in somebody on the web right now, like, there aren't too many parties that have been at it for this long and sort of had a history of success the way that Google has.

[459] Even Apple sort of scrambling to have web services way later than Google did.

[460] I mean, Gmail, people don't even think about it.

[461] You don't even think about your email.

[462] You're just like, yeah, what do you mean?

[463] Of course it's on Gmail.

[464] Like, yeah, it's easy.

[465] The vast majority of people use it.

[466] But before Gmail, it was like, it was a confusing setup for email.

[467] Remember when people used to have those little, you know, used to have things down like Outlook?

[468] Yes.

[469] Get your email from Outlook.

[470] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[471] You've got mail.

[472] And you'd have to configure it every time.

[473] Oh, yeah.

[474] The pop settings and whatnot.

[475] Oh, God, I remember that.

[476] Oh, you'd have to put in the right server?

[477] Yes.

[478] Yeah, that's right.

[479] I forgot about all that.

[480] Yeah, it was not cool.

[481] So I think, and we may have talked about this before, I think their model, the sort of ad subsidy model, has driven these amazing innovations online.

[482] But we were talking earlier when I got here about how ad blocking is like the next big conversation for the web.

[483] Well, it's a big conversation for people that are YouTube subscribers.

[484] Huge.

[485] Like, because YouTube, obviously, guys like you, guys like me in this show, you put ads in the beginning and you get revenue from those ads.

[486] That's right.

[487] If you put up ad blocker, those ads don't show up, and then people don't get those clicks.

[488] And so they don't get as much revenue.

[489] And so folks, like conscientious people, will tell you, hey, I'm turning off my ad blocker to watch your show.

[490] That's right.

[491] Just to make sure that you get your proper payoff.

[492] That's right.

[493] Yeah.

[494] So listen up.

[495] audience turn it off okay turn it back on when you're done with us yeah it's uh it's a significant amount of money and that's what's fascinating now i mean obviously you guys get a shitload of downloads you could probably speak on this even better than we could yeah because for us the 90 % of the people that get this show get it in an audio form only the youtube is a fraction there's vimeo there's you stream and there's youtube and you know those are those all together constituted about 10 % but your whole thing is on like when you do an iPhone video like the big one was when you expose that the iPhones were like ridiculously easy to bend like that was fucking millions and millions of hits right yeah almost 70 million how much is a man makeoff something like that how dare you this round of about the new iPhone has a different I mean we're talking cars or is this a car amount or a nice watch or something nice something good something nice a nice nice dinner a nice place a bag of treats for a little fucking video come on come on with this fucking thing the new iPhone has a new material right that's not as bendable have you been watching unbox therapy is that how you know that no I guessed it yeah you guessed I got to play with the new iPhone the other day and this guy that works for Apple got let me play with it and I I would like to know what you think about it.

[496] I think it's like the first iPhone that I'm not going to buy.

[497] I think half the shit they showed were just software updates that this iPhone, normal six, could do easily.

[498] Like what?

[499] Like the silly thing, the touch thing.

[500] I don't want that.

[501] You could just push, you could program your phone if you hold down something for two seconds, a second mini will pop up.

[502] Why is this like a big deal?

[503] You know, they made it such a good.

[504] I don't understand.

[505] What is the difference in the new one?

[506] The new one is it's touch, meaning like you push the screen calling like that old blackberry that you used to have that blackberry touch that was a piece of shit remember that piece of shit yeah the um what was that torch no no no there's a one was their first screen and the whole screen pushed down it was like you would click click click click click click when you make a text message you would push the screen thunder thunder thunder no I don't know shit storm storm that's what it was I hated that fucking phone there's a storm of brewing but one of their biggest things was like now you don't have If you push it down, it recognizes that you're applying pressure on the screen so it can pop up a second menu based on that.

[507] But you could also just program your phone if you hold something down for two seconds, that will pop up a second menu.

[508] We already have that, kind of.

[509] You know, I don't see the big.

[510] So does the phone actually physically give in?

[511] It has a little teeny, teeny teeny thing.

[512] And it also has a little vibrate that's a little bit more powerful.

[513] How often is that going to go off in your pocket?

[514] Yeah.

[515] Like move some shit, your keys, touch it, it clicks.

[516] The other thing was that they made a big deal about how, like, hey, we wanted to take the technology of the flash that's on the new iPhone and put it in the front.

[517] But then they didn't do that.

[518] They just make the screen flash three times brighter.

[519] And I used it, and it did work very well.

[520] For selfies?

[521] For selfies?

[522] But it wouldn't, like, get Jamie from way over there with a flash.

[523] And it won't work for a video either, like if you want to do a selfie video.

[524] It wouldn't work for a video.

[525] So it's kind of like they were kind of side talking, like, hey, we want to put this flash, but now we found out.

[526] Well, whenever they have an S, they don't go too far.

[527] off the original some people make the argument though that with the s version you're getting a more you're getting a refinement on the first gen device right which could theoretically have problems now not toot my own horn here how dare you but get ready for the toot what the hell I'm talking about getting too comfortable right now but the video I made that got a lot of traction the bend test video it sort of it sort of exposed a weak point in the device which was that's incredible by the way which was around the volume buttons and I managed to get my my hands on a leaked component recently for the upcoming iPhone and run some tests on it and it turns out that the next generation of the phone is going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 to 70 percent stronger because they've added zinc to the aluminum structure with the aluminum alloy, which turns it into something they call a 7 ,000 series aluminum.

[528] And that's the stuff they use in aerospace, NASA, so on and so forth.

[529] And it's essentially just way stronger without adding any kind of weight.

[530] In fact, the shell itself was a little bit lighter.

[531] So I did this test with this crazy contraption.

[532] I took just the back shell, so just the aluminum part from the regular six and then from the upcoming 6S and the old one bent at 30 pounds of force and the new one was around 80 and the reason I know about the existence of zinc and I dropped that information before Apple's keynote is because I went to a place called Elemental Controls which is like this super crazy scientific joint where they have this gun that shoots x -rays into any alloy and will tell you exactly down to like two decimal points what the elemental makeup is.

[533] Oh, that's pretty fucking badass.

[534] Yeah, it was...

[535] Where's that place?

[536] It was near the airport in Toronto.

[537] Like, shout out elemental controls, because these guys were so badass.

[538] I'm like, hey, I got this leaked iPhone component, and I might need your help.

[539] They're, like, come down right now.

[540] I was like, really?

[541] They probably wanted to know, too.

[542] They were just as pumped as I was.

[543] Oh, that's awesome.

[544] They were just as...

[545] I mean, you know, a couple of old guys.

[546] Their business is normally, like, when someone's doing a big order of aluminum, like, you're buying a boatload from China, literally.

[547] They'll sometimes scam you and say that you're getting this alloy when it might look exactly the same as one that's chinty on the zinc, let's say, for example.

[548] So they can just go through sheets of this stuff with this gun and make sure they're buying what they think they're buying.

[549] What about the new glass?

[550] They're not using the new gorilla glass on the new iPhone.

[551] It's a double, some kind of double version of their ion X coding.

[552] I have the glass as well at my studio.

[553] So when I get back, I'm going to be doing a preemptive scratch test to see how much better it is.

[554] Let's put that bitch on the target.

[555] I'm interested in that.

[556] I'm interested in that because the iPhone 6 and the 6 plus are the first two phones that I've had like every single phone that I've actually cracked.

[557] And I thought it was interesting that both of them.

[558] But that also coincides with some heavy fucking drinking.

[559] you have to think about that you've been on a bender you talked about it like when the phones have been breaking but like as an example the iPhone 6 plus when I was getting out of my car it slid out of my pocket which was only like three feet when I'm getting out of my car not even three feet like two feet and it cracked and it was barely a fall that seems weird well there is a there's a bit of a theory on that about sort of the rigidity of the chassis or lack thereof that might contribute to the glass having to bear the brunt of the impact even if you hit not directly on it right that there might be enough flex in that in that aluminum well speaking about like cases like is there any did they have any really good cases that have power that give you power like you know they have oh right that aren't gigantic have they have they shrunk those fuckers down yet they're all pretty fucking bad listen if you're if you're already on a six plus that's a big phone to begin to begin with you throw a battery case on there and you're carrying a brick around here's the thing this is my biggest criticism of what's happening in cell phone tech is that they want to they want to make an impression on you when you come into the store and play with the device so they're going to make it as thin as they possibly can so you come in there and you're like oh that's so sexy I'll take it until three days later when it doesn't make it through the day because the battery is is so small The next gen, here's the crazy thing The next gen iPhone And they didn't even cover this in the keynote They did not talk about this at all The next gen iPhone will have a smaller battery than this one What?

[560] And how crazy is that?

[561] Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute The number one after the S?

[562] No, the 6S will have a smaller battery than the 6th So this is better than the 6S It will have a slight amount More battery life How much?

[563] It's like 80 millamp hours Or something like that basically it means it's it's it's it's insignificant but the point being is that they're not responding to part of the consumer demand which is my demand which is better battery life I'll take would you take a slightly thicker version of that yes for double the battery life yes yes absolutely well also this is not that thick this is nice yeah yeah yeah yeah I like this six that I have right here like that is pretty goddamn thin if you need it thinner than that no no but what I'm saying that is that what they need?

[564] I mean, why are they making it thinner?

[565] No, he's saying it makes it thicker.

[566] But no, that's not what he's saying.

[567] What he's saying is that this new one is thinner and somehow, the battery is thinner.

[568] It's smaller.

[569] It's smaller.

[570] I think part of it has to do with some of the internal components taking up more space.

[571] Oh, okay.

[572] So this, like this chassis, like what you've got here, will be the exact same on the new one.

[573] It'll be actually a little bit bigger.

[574] It'll be thicker.

[575] A little bit because of these new materials.

[576] Because they want it to be rigid, more rigid.

[577] Yeah.

[578] So it's part of the rigidity is the adding of zinc, and part of it is the fact that They're making it thicker?

[579] Yeah, they're reinforcing certain areas.

[580] So, like, near the volume...

[581] Why would they do that and take the battery life down?

[582] Yeah, well, but that's the thing is that they've never had an S model where they've really reconfigured the layout.

[583] Maybe in the next version, but usually for the S model, it looks exactly the same, right?

[584] They don't come out with a fresh version.

[585] Right.

[586] Their manufacturing setup is not right for that, so...

[587] It seems so silly, though, because they obviously are making it slightly different because they're making it thicker inside.

[588] Yeah, they're doing, their feeling is that it shouldn't look to the average person.

[589] If they pick up one or the other, they'll look and feel the same.

[590] But if you had just like this size, but just a little thicker and maybe a little more durable so you wouldn't need a case?

[591] Yeah, well, check this out.

[592] He has the Samsung active.

[593] That is exactly what that is.

[594] So this phone here that I'm carrying is the S6 active.

[595] This is the one that's waterproof.

[596] Yeah.

[597] The waterproof part is cool.

[598] This doesn't have a case on it?

[599] Nope.

[600] Yeah, that's built in.

[601] That's like a man's phone right there.

[602] I feel like a man. Yeah, that's a tool.

[603] That's not a toy.

[604] What do you got there, John?

[605] That's the, Brian.

[606] That's note five.

[607] I mean, just a comparison of like the thickness of it.

[608] I mean, is this too thick for you, Joe?

[609] No, no, no. That has a 3 ,500 mill amp hour battery.

[610] That never dies on me before I go to bed.

[611] So this is the one that's waterproof, the whole deal.

[612] Shock resistant, dustproof.

[613] I take it in the shower.

[614] This is the fucking phone.

[615] But.

[616] But.

[617] shit yes what's with the butt there's a butt it is an AT &T exclusive oh fuck sir what the fuck yeah I know but you can do A and T T T unlocked and put it on T -Mobile yeah yeah this is on is T -Mobile really that much better than AT &T it's way better well around here around here in my experience yeah and also in Vegas what is so you could get this unlocked and then you bring it to T -Mobile you get in a phone call son I'm gonna fuck tell him to fuck off We're on a show.

[618] How do I do that?

[619] Do I slide it?

[620] Yeah, slide that over.

[621] That's annoying, too.

[622] Yeah.

[623] One thing that I thought was weird that they did in the keynote where they said the battery was not as strong as the six.

[624] They said, well, the new operating system is going to give you an hour more battery life.

[625] Yeah, well, but they, I just updated the operating system on my six so I can an hour more battery life on this one also.

[626] Theoretically.

[627] Yeah, but you don't even know because you just up.

[628] It's probably going to suck.

[629] They're going to fuck you, just like they always do.

[630] They always do, right.

[631] Their software updates, always fuck you.

[632] Yeah, I mean, I'm never on the forefront of it, not on my main device.

[633] Dude, I like this.

[634] A lot.

[635] It's a man's phone.

[636] What's it called again?

[637] The S -6 active.

[638] Active?

[639] Yeah.

[640] I like it, a lot.

[641] I like how you've got two different time zones on there, too.

[642] See what I'm doing?

[643] You know what time it is at home.

[644] See what I'm doing?

[645] Dude, this is a good phone.

[646] It's also got a programmable button on it, this one right here, which you can configure as a shortcut for anything you So you can make it a voice recorder, like if cops were fucking with you.

[647] Whatever your favorite thing to launch is.

[648] Yeah.

[649] It can launch anything instantly from there.

[650] Or if a girl, Red Band, is trying to get you arrested.

[651] And explaining how she's about to try to get you arrested.

[652] Red and Bram.

[653] Probably a good time.

[654] Calls 911.

[655] No, I called 911.

[656] All right, let's get off that.

[657] I like this topic here.

[658] I like that phone a lot.

[659] Yeah, so this is kind of really frustrated at the Apple thing.

[660] that's just one thing but one thing though we're talking a lot of shit about apple here i think that there's one thing that remains to be seen and that's the camera the the camera on the next model will be an improvement i'm a hundred percent positive it's a 12 megapixel it's going to shoot 4k and apple knows the camera has been the battleground of smartphones for the last five six years if you have the best camera you're going to sell phones and the problem for apple right now is they don't there's no No argument that the S6 camera is better.

[661] I guess you could make an argument, subjectivity, color representation, blah, blah, blah.

[662] The S6 shoots better photos than the current iPhone.

[663] And that's a big problem for them.

[664] So I fully suspect.

[665] So the Galaxy S6 is what you're talking about.

[666] So people are listening to them, they're getting confused in your geek jardin.

[667] Yeah, yeah, how perfect is it that it's the 6S and the S6?

[668] Those are the competing products.

[669] The iPhone 6S and the Galaxy S6.

[670] So when he says S6, he's talking about this.

[671] So what about the active?

[672] Does the S6 active of the same camera?

[673] Yeah.

[674] So this phone, I'm going to take this out for a second.

[675] This phone is essentially...

[676] We're kicking out hardcore folks.

[677] You know what?

[678] I'm glad that we did, though.

[679] You know, we got right into it.

[680] Yeah.

[681] So this is this phone.

[682] That's the same phone.

[683] Right.

[684] This is the pretty version.

[685] Right.

[686] This is the active version.

[687] I like the active version better.

[688] But you can see, like, form factor wise, you're going to add a little bit, but...

[689] But you don't have to worry about dropping it.

[690] You don't have to have to have to have.

[691] have a case on it.

[692] That's right.

[693] And better battery.

[694] And you have, so it wins.

[695] You have like 25 % more battery life.

[696] 25 % more than the S6 regular?

[697] This is, uh, 3 ,500 mill amp hours.

[698] I think this is 2700.

[699] So I'm, I mean, I probably have my math.

[700] Why doesn't, why doesn't Apple smarten up and make one of those?

[701] I took out my old iPhone one the other day and it was like this cute little pebble and it was a little, had a little weight to it.

[702] But I was thinking, what if they just redid the idea of that making it a little thicker and having a battery that lasts two days because it actually felt good I didn't care about the iPhone one yeah I always have a case on this anyway so it's always slightly thicker right like when I feel this size this is pretty thin when I feel that though yeah that's not like this is like what this would be with a case on it but this is better mm -hmm it's better to build it in like that yeah everybody drops her fucking phone at some point at some point why not make a phone that you can drop I mean we're not talking about laptops yeah or or spill This is the shit.

[703] Spill is a big one.

[704] Yeah, spill is huge.

[705] I've soaked that thing.

[706] I've done, I put it, I submerged it completely in a glass.

[707] That's next.

[708] Brian Will.

[709] That's the next step.

[710] P test.

[711] P test, about to blow up YouTube.

[712] This is pretty dope, dude.

[713] Yeah.

[714] I like it.

[715] And you can get to the camera right from there.

[716] And the camera on this is better than the iPhone camera.

[717] In my opinion.

[718] It is.

[719] I just took a selfie.

[720] I left on your phone.

[721] Yeah.

[722] Oh, the, the, the selfie camera especially, because it's, it's way wider.

[723] Look that.

[724] It's way wider.

[725] Yeah, it's way wider.

[726] So you could get like two, three people in there a lot easier.

[727] I tried the new selfie camera on the new iPhone compared it to my, I took two comparison shots, one of the six and one of the six S. Wow.

[728] And it almost seemed to be exactly the same.

[729] It wasn't a huge deal.

[730] On the front facing?

[731] On the front facing?

[732] On the front facing won't be a huge change.

[733] It'll be all about the rear camera.

[734] So that might be the phone to get right now.

[735] Which one?

[736] The S6 active.

[737] Here's the problem.

[738] Most people don't buy their phones outright.

[739] they go in they get a subsidy they sign a contract right so if you want an s6 active you're gonna have to buy it full pop off AT &T if you're not on AT &T that's the only way or you know the people from Samsung they don't have it already asked what they don't have no because I think it's because it's an AT &T exclusive it's kind of like a weird phone how the fuck could they not have it if they're the they're the hookup they offered us the white glove service yeah about the white glove service I do not what happens in the white glove service The stays in the White Glove service.

[740] Yeah, we show up at the comedy store.

[741] They show up with phones.

[742] They give us a bag.

[743] Then we'll get a little hug, and we're gone.

[744] I love it.

[745] Handshaking, it's done.

[746] Yeah, they'll send you a chip.

[747] Put a little fucking card in there.

[748] Yeah, it's, I think it's a good time for phones.

[749] I mean, it's fascinating that everyone has to compete at this level.

[750] Because if you look at the evolution of phones over the iPhone 1 to now, we're only talking about, What was that, 2009?

[751] Yeah, it's nothing.

[752] That's fucking crazy.

[753] So six years ago, we had this little fat thing that lasted about an hour and that a little tiny -ass screen that your thumb could cover the whole screen practically.

[754] Now we have this big, beautiful mini tablet.

[755] It's a fablet, right?

[756] Is this technically a fablet?

[757] Or does it have to be bigger?

[758] No, no, no, no. I mean, you could call it that although China is now pushing phones that are gigantic.

[759] So it's hard to call it seven inches.

[760] What?

[761] What do they have?

[762] Well, didn't Samsung have a mega?

[763] Samsung still does have a mega in Asia.

[764] They love huge phones in Asia.

[765] You can't get it in America?

[766] I don't believe so, not for many of the major carriers.

[767] Well, that's a crock of shit.

[768] There's a company that's emerging quickly called Huawei.

[769] That does not feel good to say, but that's the name of the company.

[770] They're number three, I believe, right now, as far as scale for smartphone manufacturers, they have various devices six inches and above.

[771] like many a selection of them these things are well I mean you can imagine what's a what's the seven inch one called oh I can't remember so but it's there's giant iPad Mini that's that it is it is that size well the bezel it's it's it's it's they've done it's nine is it nine or is it seven yeah the full -size iPad is 9 .7 the new one though the new one is a new one that's 12 right you might want that 12 really well you're because you're into illustrations and whatnot right right right Yeah, I mean, with the pen, it's unbelievable.

[772] Yeah, but I like drawn on paper.

[773] You would never even consider it?

[774] Yeah, I would consider it for sure.

[775] What I was saying earlier is like the iPad Pro, the upcoming iPad, has the highest resolution display of anything that Apple's ever put out.

[776] Actually, maybe arguably anything commercially available in the tablet space, phone space.

[777] Well, how long before someone makes a VR and slaps that sucker?

[778] Oh, yeah.

[779] That would be, yes.

[780] You get a nice field of view.

[781] That'd be perfect.

[782] Why didn't they make this touch -sensitive?

[783] It almost seems like that would make more sense to have the iPad Pro be touch -sensitive instead of using a pin that's touch -sensitive.

[784] More people are going to draw on it.

[785] Like the Sintique is pressure -sensitive.

[786] Yeah, yeah.

[787] What's the Sintique?

[788] Sintiq is a drawing pad, meaning it can detect, you know, the pressure.

[789] Yeah, that's what it is.

[790] That's what it is.

[791] It almost seems like they're releasing it first on the iPhone 6 just to, you know, so the iPad Pro 2 would have it.

[792] Yeah, I don't know.

[793] I, it's a hard one for me to figure out.

[794] I've been messing around with the note with the pen and trying my best to like make it a part of my day and it's a tough kind of, it's a tough transition on a display this size, but you can imagine like the pen is still far more precise than your finger could ever be, right?

[795] Your finger could never select a single pixel on a high resolution screen.

[796] Right.

[797] It's not a point.

[798] So it's what's weird is like if there were a little jar of ink here what would I choose to write with my finger dip it in there or the pen that's decided like why did we choose in the traditional world this and yet it seems so bizarre to carry that forward into the digital world I think part of it has to do with the fact that there's no place there's no place for it you're using this thing on the go there's a lot of arguments there but when it comes to a tablet it's almost always at home always on the couch I just feel like maybe, I don't know, maybe this could shift the paradigm and people will look at these things as actual notepads finally.

[799] I don't know.

[800] Well, I used the note five for a while or the four, four, four, three, whatever the fuck I used, one of them.

[801] Yeah.

[802] And I enjoyed the pen.

[803] You used it.

[804] I liked it for collecting images.

[805] I thought it was really cool because I could directly collect an image from a thing and it would save it for me and store it for me. Yep.

[806] The fact that it was so easy to cut things and paste them and save them as notes.

[807] You know, I really like that.

[808] And I really like that you draw dicks on people's faces.

[809] That's also perfect.

[810] I was happy with that.

[811] I look at my one note picture that I have in here, and it's just a dick.

[812] That was the other thing that I really liked.

[813] It actually synced up with Evernote.

[814] So when I would draw my notes out, I would say something.

[815] I would write, like, comedy notes out, and then I would sync it with Evernote.

[816] And then I would look at it as an actual draw.

[817] as the actual me writing the physical words.

[818] Like, I still have it saved up on Evernote, and it's, I like it a lot.

[819] So, but you don't miss, you don't miss not having it, though, the pen.

[820] You're right, I don't.

[821] I don't miss it that much, but if I, it's not as much.

[822] Like, I don't miss it as much as I like this phone better than that phone.

[823] Yeah, I understand what you mean.

[824] Like, see this, I used to have them like that, so I would draw them.

[825] That's cool.

[826] Yeah, I mean, save them.

[827] Yeah, there is, I mean, there is, there is some, there is some.

[828] something yeah and you could scroll through them so much easier than you could a notebook yes and then just write it down like that there are definitely there are definitely advantages it's just about getting over this hurdle of usability it's kind of like uh smart watches as well i don't know if you've tried any of those like apple watch or anything like that yeah i can't get into it yeah can you get into that if i was given one i would be into it but i just can't it's too much money for me oh well mine's collect that's what it is really yeah for a lot of people because how much of days.

[829] For the one I want is about $800, $700, $700, like the middle one.

[830] Isn't there a stupid one that's like $25 grand that's like made a goal or something?

[831] It's around $16 ,000, I believe.

[832] What an asshole you would have to be to buy that.

[833] The weird thing about that, too, is you're going to sell a super luxury $16 ,000 watch.

[834] Don't you want other people to know that it's a $16 ,000?

[835] Because it looks exactly like every other Apple watch.

[836] Yeah.

[837] You know what is just the metal that's made out of?

[838] It's just made of gold.

[839] But there's a market for that shit.

[840] Oh, yeah.

[841] They sold out in China in the first 24 hours.

[842] You know, there was an article recently that I read about Beverly Hills that there's an insane amount.

[843] Something like, I think they were saying something to be 25 and 29 percent of all real estate in Beverly Hills is being bought up by people from Saudi Arabia and Beverly Hills.

[844] In Beverly Hills.

[845] Oh, excuse me, Saudi Arabia and China.

[846] Oh, okay, yeah.

[847] And that, like, literally that entire area has been purchased by foreign companies or foreign countries.

[848] These people that have ungodly amounts of money because of oil money.

[849] Yeah.

[850] So, like, we went to, I talked about this recently.

[851] We went to this steak place in Beverly Hills.

[852] And there was a guy, they're importing cars from Saudi Arabia for the summer.

[853] They call it Saudi summer.

[854] And they come down here, because in the summer there, it's 150 fucking degrees.

[855] so they come down here and they drive their unregistered cars around Beverly Hills these million -dollar bagadi Veyrons so they have these Bugatti Veyrons and all these fucking super million -dollar cars with Saudi plates and I was with my friend who's from Iran and he speaks Persian and Farsi and he can read Arab and I guess Farsi is what they speak whatever I think so but he can read Arabic and he said it says palace on it It said palace on the license plate, and it said two, two, two, two, two, two, two.

[856] Like, it was all twos.

[857] So it was like the prince probably, because they couldn't get one, one, one, one one, one, one, says the king.

[858] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[859] Like, this guy has his fucking $1 .5 million car that's not even registered in America, and he's driving around a valley parking it in front of the steak place.

[860] Right.

[861] And, like, this is a, it's a strange co -opting of this area by, like, this, because it's such, it's such a, like, a name place.

[862] It's like there's a high value to that Beverly Hills name.

[863] Right.

[864] So because of that, like, they said that some ungodly percentage of all homes over $10 million are being purchased by rich people from Saudi Arabia and China.

[865] Yeah.

[866] They're just scooping them up.

[867] They're not even living in them.

[868] I think there's a push to sort of evacuate some of the money from those environments because there's an uneasiness about what happens in the future in those economies.

[869] so you get yourself diversified.

[870] But a weird kind of diversified.

[871] You get lucrative.

[872] People were tweeting it.

[873] People were tweeting that to me today.

[874] People were tweeting to me that this guy tweeted to me that he works at a restaurant and that all the people that work at that restaurant were yelling out, let's get lucrative.

[875] I want to know where the t -shirt is because we need to make it.

[876] Yeah, I think there's a few people that would pick that up.

[877] I'd be getting lucrative.

[878] But, yeah.

[879] Yeah, man, the money that would cost for that little $25 ,000 watch is nothing for those kind of people.

[880] And that would be the instant thing that they would want.

[881] They would want that high -end thing.

[882] It's funny.

[883] You talked about the license plates.

[884] I can't remember where I watch this.

[885] I don't know if it was a documentary or just a clip about the bidding that goes on in Dubai for the specific specialized license plates.

[886] Exactly like you said, the lower the number.

[887] So having the car isn't prestigious enough because everybody's got one.

[888] That's so fucking weird.

[889] They'll have auctions for, like, license plate number one, number two, number three.

[890] And, you know, it's in the millions of dollars.

[891] Because when you get to the, like, to the crazy level of status and whatnot, things get bonkers really quick.

[892] You know, like, as far as, as far as what you need to do, how absurd things need to be for you to make a statement anymore.

[893] Mm -hmm.

[894] So, anyway.

[895] Well, in that culture, if that's what you're going for is only, like, the most obvious form of material.

[896] rampant materialism.

[897] You know, if that's all you're going for, yeah, that's what you want.

[898] You want to get like the number one license plate.

[899] Like look at him.

[900] He's got a Bugatti Veyromb, but he has a $5 million dollar license plate.

[901] There you go.

[902] That's so stupid.

[903] It's so weird.

[904] Is it?

[905] What, if you have that much money, is it though?

[906] That's the thing.

[907] Yeah, it is.

[908] You have more money than you could ever spend.

[909] Right, but why would you want that license plate?

[910] Why do you give a fuck?

[911] That's a good point.

[912] If you have that much money and you're still trying that hard, What kind of an environment are you competing in?

[913] What kind of vampires you're trying to conjure up to bring into your life?

[914] That's a good point.

[915] Like, who are you trying to impress?

[916] You already have a fucking giant, you have a giant fucking house.

[917] You have a $1 .7 million card.

[918] Does anybody look at your license playing go, look at you with a regular fucking license plate?

[919] You can't even afford license plate.

[920] Yeah, you're not in the club.

[921] Yeah, that's...

[922] You're not allowed in.

[923] I think it's more a thing of, like, in order to maintain your competitiveness, you have to keep on...

[924] approaching these things that shouldn't be attainable.

[925] Like, anybody working in anything, right?

[926] I think that you have to put these challenges in front of yourself.

[927] Like, I've got to get the extra million for the right license plate.

[928] That's just a weird, a weirdo version of that, isn't it?

[929] It's all weirdo versions because, like, labels are critical.

[930] Like, people want labels.

[931] Like, it's, like, very nice.

[932] Like, someone was making fun of me because I have a Lexus.

[933] Really?

[934] What are you doing driving a Lexington?

[935] Why don't you have a Mercedes or BMW or something like that?

[936] I'm like, this is a great car.

[937] What's wrong with you?

[938] It's like nobody's impressed by a Lexus.

[939] You know, you pull up, that's a Toyota.

[940] You know, you're pulling up in a Japanese car.

[941] I guess.

[942] But fucking, so what?

[943] Yeah.

[944] Like, what is wrong with people that that becomes a giant issue?

[945] I don't know.

[946] Branding?

[947] Branding?

[948] Branding.

[949] It's strange, man. Because I was in one of those, what are they called?

[950] Whatever the fucking high -end Hyundai is.

[951] now.

[952] Yeah.

[953] I was in one of those and I was like, this is a fucking great car.

[954] It feels like a Mercedes in here.

[955] But I wouldn't drive it because it's Hyundai.

[956] Yeah.

[957] I was thinking that.

[958] I was thinking like, would I drive?

[959] I mean, I probably would, but it's Hyundai is like a very, it's hard to get excited about that, whereas at least Lexus is like higher end than that.

[960] Yeah.

[961] You know what I mean?

[962] Like, so I'm guilty of the thing I'm mocking, really.

[963] I think everybody is.

[964] I think we, I think it's a way, I've said this before, I think that a person who has a certain, you know, certain access to a particular way of life, that the shortcut, the rich guy's shortcut to buying, to buying the right thing is to buy an expensive one, right?

[965] You walk into a store.

[966] They've got a bunch of shirts.

[967] Which one should I have?

[968] Right.

[969] Well, I can like bypass the whole research structure by just buying the best.

[970] Yeah.

[971] You know, like the average.

[972] person when they're going to purchase a car they spend i think i heard this that recently it's about 52 days from the when they get the idea that they need a new car to the point at which they make the purchase researching yeah there's various stages throughout it's actually getting shorter though which is kind of strange i think the internet's getting better to be honest with you yeah well youtube videos on on reviews of cars are awesome yeah yeah so critical yeah and so i think that's really expediting the process but uh but anyway yeah i think i think that's really expediting the process but uh but anyway yeah i that generally speaking those who have an abundance of wealth don't have as much time usually that's usually the way it works so you kind of try to bypass that whole process by buying the best thing and that's where brands come in brands almost help you in a way of you sort of through their prestige and their established symbol that I know if I get that I'm good and I don't need to ask anybody about that I don't need to you know I don't need to pull my friends or whatever it's like a it's like a hack it's the quickest way towards that It's like a fancy liquor or, you know, the right cigar or, you know what I mean?

[973] It's like you can find an example of that in almost every product category.

[974] It's the same reason why Samsung is Samsung now.

[975] It took so much time and so much money for that to be an acceptable brand.

[976] Yeah.

[977] Don't they make weapons too?

[978] Probably.

[979] I'm pretty sure they make weapons.

[980] I think in Korea they make everything, but...

[981] I'm pretty sure Samsung makes missiles or some shit.

[982] Let's say Samsung makes weapons.

[983] You know, you're probably right.

[984] I know they make all kinds of things in Korea that never make it here.

[985] Samsung also makes weapons.

[986] Check out all they do.

[987] Jesus Christ, they make fucking tanks.

[988] Yeah, vehicles.

[989] Samsung Tech, whoa, Techwin surveillance aeronautics.

[990] This is fascinating.

[991] Optoelectronics.

[992] I don't know what that is.

[993] automations and weapons technology company it's a subsidiary of Samsung group huh yeah they make fucking weapons they even make jet engines they make tanks ARVs and even jet engines yeah I mean those big technology companies gotta diversify your portfolio oh yeah get lucrative got to get lucrative that's the best way to get lucrative make weapons people are always looking to blow shit up it's always someone in some part of the world it's like if I just had something that could blow these motherfuckers up over there that'd be all good that's that was the real game change when it came to war right once they could start blowing shit up and they weren't anywhere near it yeah when london started getting bombed during the world war two yeah you know and even world war one when they started launching bombs and using chemical gas and essentially killing people at a long distance yeah without having to see them yeah yeah and now we're we're even further past that like with a game controller in it yeah well that's why i wanted to bring that up like the drones like now they're having drones did you see that one guy that stitched together, all those drones with some sort of software attached to a chair.

[994] Yes, I saw that.

[995] Like, that guy's kind of bypassing all the aeronautics rules because there's rules.

[996] Like, if you want to get a helicopter, you have to get a helicopter license.

[997] You have to, you know, you have to tell people where you're flying.

[998] Yeah, we're in a strange point right now where technology is progressing at this insane speed and the legal system doesn't, takes way longer than that.

[999] Yeah.

[1000] There's not enough time to go through all the steps necessary on that side of it to catch up with the technology as it's happening.

[1001] Drones, what was that story the other day where there were all those drones up in the air and they couldn't, so the helicopters couldn't get to a scene where someone needed to be airlifted?

[1002] Yeah, they think that was here, right?

[1003] Yeah, they were using people who were using video drones to take videos of something that was going on.

[1004] What was that an accident or something like that?

[1005] I think it was an accident and a helicopter needed to get in there to pull the person out.

[1006] And they couldn't because of the drones were there.

[1007] And they couldn't because of the drones were there.

[1008] Yeah, well, they're going to have to have drone blockers the way movie theaters should have cell phone blockers.

[1009] You know, like people are on their fucking phones in movie theaters all the time.

[1010] Yeah.

[1011] One of the most annoying things ever.

[1012] Well, you're going to have that, those blockers.

[1013] I don't know how you do it because...

[1014] I don't know either.

[1015] Yeah, I mean, because it's a radio frequency, right?

[1016] Yeah.

[1017] It's just, it's, uh, RF from your...

[1018] There's going to be seeking to destroy type drones that you just, like, throw in the air and they just go after these drones and somehow knock them out of commission.

[1019] Yeah, but you can't have, like, aerial warfare over the freeway.

[1020] The drop on little kid's head.

[1021] Yeah.

[1022] First time a baby gets killed by a falling drone that was taken out by a company.

[1023] Oh, yeah.

[1024] I was on the beach the other day just hanging out, and it was a pretty empty beach in Santa Barbara.

[1025] And I just heard this like, what is that noise?

[1026] I look up, and there's just a drone sitting there right above me, like, I don't know, super high up.

[1027] You could almost barely see it.

[1028] And then it just flew away.

[1029] And I looked around.

[1030] I didn't see anybody controlling it.

[1031] How far can they go now?

[1032] Like a mile, right?

[1033] Oh, God.

[1034] I mean, I think it probably depends on Like a military ones or like a personal one?

[1035] A personal one I think is still relatively line of sight Like you have to if I think the minute you can't make it out It's probably out of range It just falls out of the sky Well and that's the craziest part The drone people are going to get really upset with us right now Because we don't know what the fuck we're talking about Not just that but it's a very sensitive subject matter Because these enthusiasts are super into it Like a lot of people and guys like us come And we talk about only the shitty part of it, like them falling out of the sky and killing people.

[1036] And they think that's going to influence government, which will then take away their freedom to do that thing.

[1037] Just like everything else, right?

[1038] People that love doing something, they want to protect that freedom.

[1039] But, like, for example, I've done videos on these little, like, toy drones.

[1040] They're nothing.

[1041] You know, you fly them indoors or whatever.

[1042] And if you get any of the terminology wrong or you talk about them being dangerous in any, any way or anything like that, you're going to have an entire script in your comment section about like that.

[1043] You're fucking it up for us.

[1044] You know, you're influencing the public opinion.

[1045] You should know what you're talking about before you do.

[1046] They do.

[1047] They do have a point, but so does the public at large in seeing a flying thing above their head and wondering if the connection between the thing controlling it and it itself is stable enough to keep it up there.

[1048] Well, not only that.

[1049] Yeah, and how about just the privacy intrusion?

[1050] If you're some person who's sunbathing, some woman, maybe you have a fence.

[1051] You like the sunbathe naked because you're in a private, you know, you're in a backyard and no one can see in.

[1052] And you want to take your top off and get your tits tanned, and you can't do that anymore.

[1053] Who doesn't?

[1054] A 4K video of your tits now on Internet.

[1055] And zoom in on it.

[1056] Yeah.

[1057] And then also the Oculus Rift effect, because when I was on that sci -fi show, we did some things where we took drones and we strapped cameras to these drones.

[1058] and we flew over the top of these trees in the Pacific Northwest.

[1059] It was like looking for Bigfoot episode.

[1060] We're flying around looking for Bigfoot with a fucking drone.

[1061] Not obviously more of a goof than anything.

[1062] But the goggles were fucking crazy.

[1063] Oh, okay.

[1064] So you were seeing its vision through VR yet.

[1065] So I'm watching.

[1066] I'm literally, it feels like I'm flying.

[1067] Because my field of vision is just like the VR field of vision.

[1068] And you're, you know, connected to the camera that's attached to this drone.

[1069] Yeah.

[1070] That's awesome.

[1071] Yeah, I mean, it's going to get real, real strange.

[1072] And again, like you said, the regulations have not caught up to the technology.

[1073] The technology is going to move way faster than these dummies that are making the regulations in the first place.

[1074] They don't really know what's going on.

[1075] No. And how do you, again, how do you get a person to be interested in getting into government to write these regulations who's actually familiar with the thing?

[1076] Like, why in the God's name would they want to do this at that point?

[1077] They have to get elected.

[1078] I mean, it's a whole process of getting intelligent people into the spot they should be in is too slow, too convoluted, and the world is changing too quickly.

[1079] So the people who make the laws have to rely on experts, like they have to hire people.

[1080] Except who are those experts?

[1081] Who are those experts?

[1082] What are their agendas?

[1083] What's their credentials?

[1084] And, you know, essentially there's young kids that haven't even graduated from high school yet that know as much or more than anyone these people are going to hire in the first place.

[1085] Exactly.

[1086] Like these comments that you're getting, these detailed comments.

[1087] It's critiquing it.

[1088] It might be from, like, that 14 -year -old kid in fucking Dallas that got arrested today because his teacher thought he was making a bomb because he made a homemade clock.

[1089] Yeah.

[1090] But he happened to be making and inventing things while brown.

[1091] And that's very dangerous, especially with an Arab last name, especially in Texas.

[1092] His name is like Ahmed Muhammad.

[1093] It was almost as bad as Barack Obama.

[1094] Barack Hussein Obama.

[1095] I mean, it's like, fucking, for people looking for something bad, like, oh, who you?

[1096] You know his fucking middle name.

[1097] Yeah.

[1098] It's Hussein!

[1099] That's a shitty story.

[1100] It's a terrible story.

[1101] The kid got arrested with a fucking NASA shirt on.

[1102] Dude, I noticed that's where my head went at the exact same time.

[1103] When I saw the photo, I was like, he's wearing a...

[1104] I don't know why that stood out to me and made me especially sad.

[1105] The NASA shirt.

[1106] He's a genius.

[1107] That's what it is.

[1108] Yeah, I see.

[1109] He makes his own radios.

[1110] It sort of implied a passion for the thing...

[1111] for the thing that he got arrested for.

[1112] Yeah, well, it's pure racism.

[1113] It's racism and it's purest form.

[1114] And, you know, it's just amazing that someone wasn't skilled enough to talk to this kid, socially skilled enough, to go, what do you got there?

[1115] What's going on, man?

[1116] Yeah.

[1117] And so he could have probably gone, well, I make my own computers and I make my own this.

[1118] And what I've done here is I've strung together all these electronics and built a clock.

[1119] And I've figured out how to do that.

[1120] I mean, you can easily talk to someone if you're skilled.

[1121] Oh, yeah.

[1122] Of course.

[1123] Someone was a smooth talker.

[1124] Yes.

[1125] And then the kid wouldn't feel bad at all, and he could probably explain how he did it and what he likes to do.

[1126] And you'd be like, well, you are an amazing student.

[1127] And congratulations, would you mind showing that to the class?

[1128] And then you've got a positive out of this instead of like, oh, look at him.

[1129] He's a little brown kid, and he's making a fucking bomb.

[1130] He's trying to kill everybody.

[1131] He's 14.

[1132] How would you go look through the database?

[1133] Is there any 14 -year -old suicide bombers?

[1134] Is there any that we've ever had in Dallas?

[1135] Oh, not here.

[1136] Yeah, I mean, in the Middle East.

[1137] Yeah, in the Middle East.

[1138] The martyrs, there was a horrible fucking documentary that I watched where they had this school, and they had all these kids on the wall, the school that were strapped up with these explosion vests.

[1139] And it said, today's children are tomorrow's holy martyrs.

[1140] Oh, right, right.

[1141] Yeah, that's some shocking shit.

[1142] Yeah, it is some shocking shit.

[1143] Yeah.

[1144] But no, I mean, it's probably the best thing that happened to this kid, though.

[1145] Did he see the president's tweet to him?

[1146] No, what the president said.

[1147] The president says, cool clock I'm mad.

[1148] I want to bring that to the White House.

[1149] We should inspire more kids like you to do science.

[1150] It's what makes America great.

[1151] We should find out who the fuck of people are that arrested them.

[1152] I don't know if that's healthy.

[1153] That's healthy for them.

[1154] They need to know what it feels like.

[1155] I know what the whole world say, hey, hey, man, you're on a global platform now.

[1156] You're not just in Texas.

[1157] Like, you've been doing some racist Texas shit.

[1158] But don't you feel like sometimes the wild goose chase breeds like a weird kind of internet violent mentality?

[1159] Yes.

[1160] Mentality.

[1161] Or at least a mob.

[1162] Yeah.

[1163] Like everyone, let's get, like the threats that the lion killer was getting.

[1164] Yes.

[1165] You know, like, I'm going to, what I'm going to do to your children and, it's like, how does that, where did we, how do we escalate there?

[1166] And it's because when, when you're in this chamber of all this noise, people sort of elevate their level of how much of what they're willing to do to counteract this thing that they disagree with.

[1167] Yeah.

[1168] You know?

[1169] Well, there's also.

[1170] there's a lot of people that are super upset with their life.

[1171] Their life is not good.

[1172] Right.

[1173] And they're looking for anything to be mad at and point their anger towards.

[1174] And anything that's justified.

[1175] Like, obviously the lion killer, that's a nice big green light.

[1176] You know, this guy shot a fucking lion.

[1177] It took 40 hours for the thing to die.

[1178] And then they had to go and kill it on some private or some public property that's not even you're not even allowed to hunt there.

[1179] He had a collar on.

[1180] They cut the collar off.

[1181] The guy was a poacher.

[1182] He has a history.

[1183] of poaching he poached a bear he lied about where he shot it he shot it for like 40 miles away from where he said he did there was all sorts of shit about that guy that was like easy to target on so then the fucking hate is free yeah oh you got a green light you just close your eyes and hit the gas jared jared from subway that's another one but you know what i mean that's not just legit i mean how much hate is there towards that guy i didn't see the kind of death threats towards Jared from Subway that I saw towards the Lion Killer guy.

[1184] I've never seen anything like the Lion Killer thing was to me evidence of like a complete breakdown in social media.

[1185] Like that was, have you guys ever seen Black Mirror?

[1186] The TV show from the UK?

[1187] Yeah.

[1188] So I've only seen one episode, the one with the pig, the guy out of fucking pig.

[1189] Yeah, that's all I saw.

[1190] Yeah, well that's the kind of example I'm talking about is it seems like when the signal to noise ratio gets fucked up enough, we sort of lose our faculties.

[1191] Like your whole feed.

[1192] How the fuck is my, I didn't sign up for a day's worth of lying tweets.

[1193] Right.

[1194] But you also have to deal with the numbers of humans that are able to communicate freely.

[1195] That's the signal to noise ratio like you talked about earlier.

[1196] The real kicker is it used to be to be able to get on television, you had to be Walter Cronkite.

[1197] And here's the news.

[1198] You know, you had to be an established person who had a degree in journalism or a history as a journalist.

[1199] Now you just have to get on an application that anyone can download in two seconds on your phone and you just start talking shit.

[1200] You know, I'm going to come to your house, I'm going to throw your kids in a woodshipper, like all that shit they were saying to that guy, Corey Knowlton that shot the Rhino in that Radio Lab episode that we're talking about.

[1201] I mean, they said some horrible, horrible shit to him, and it's because they felt like they could.

[1202] And those are the same people, they're angry already.

[1203] Like, they're already angry.

[1204] This is just a nice target for that anger.

[1205] and it's not balanced and it doesn't make sense and it's not it's it's not rational the the focus of this anger but it doesn't have to be because you don't get to pick who you're getting that data from like okay here's a perfect example it was off us in this room and you know someone had done something fucked up like the lion killer guy we would we could have like a detailed discussion and how we felt about it and what are the what are the actual facts about the case and did you know the 28 different lions were in collar and have been killed.

[1206] Like it's very common if they kill ones with the collar because once they go outside of the protected area you're allowed to kill them and lions cover a gigantic area where they hunt.

[1207] So we would have these kind of nuanced discussions because you're in a room with four rational people.

[1208] But think about all the fucking idiots that you've met in your life.

[1209] Think about the millions of people.

[1210] If you have 350 million people in this country, at least one out of 100 is a fucking idiot.

[1211] So that means you got three million 500 ,000 fucking idiots to just smash in their sloppy cheese doodle covered fingers on keyboards and fucking spitting on their screen and taking time to jack off in between tweets and they smell like shit, they're farting and wafting the fart up into their nose.

[1212] They're horrible monsters, and there's millions of them.

[1213] There's millions of them.

[1214] And they will spend their whole day tweeting, Facebooking, anytime something horrible goes wrong.

[1215] Yeah.

[1216] Now they have a green light.

[1217] I think, though, that it almost feels like even the intellectual web contributes by enabling those fuck -ups you're talking about.

[1218] In a way, yeah.

[1219] Yeah, by providing the steam necessary, by giving them that fragment to work with, to go with.

[1220] Well, just giving them a pathway to communicate with everybody.

[1221] Exactly.

[1222] So an example of this would be like a media headline, a juicy headline to get a person to click it.

[1223] even though as you mentioned before it would it would completely lack the nuance of a proper discussion or debate but you pan you know you pander to the lowest common denominator you want as many clicks as possible and you're not necessarily concerned with the outcome of that you know so it's like it's like if we know that those big huge news sources that are supposed to or once upon a time where it were nuanced or or or or or meant to sort of break down the story for you, to help you understand the story.

[1224] No, it's all bites now.

[1225] It's all little fast -moving bites, hot takes, and so on, that formulate your opinion.

[1226] So in some ways, yes, those people should be held responsible for the things they say online, but it's not like the intellectual web or the news -producing web is doing the greatest job in advertising, the proper content, the nuanced, long -form take.

[1227] It's much easier to just slam out some knee -jerk type of article and get it out faster, be first, as opposed to maybe you're a day later, but you've had time to gather more information.

[1228] The other problem is a lot of those traditional media outlets have proven to be ineffective when it comes to controversial issues, like the Charlie Hebdo issue.

[1229] Like when Charlie Hebdo happened And all those guys were killed All those cartoonists were killed By those Muslim extremists They came in and were mad They were making these cartoons and Muhammad Nobody printed those fucking cartoons Nope The LA Times didn't do it The New York Times didn't do it Time magazine didn't do it Everybody backed off on tweeting those Or taking photos and putting them online Or putting them in their articles They didn't want to do it So it was up to the internet And so then it becomes a matter of When something is real And something's out there Like that guy who uploaded the video of him killing the reporters, he killed the reporters when they were on TV and upload the video of him doing it.

[1230] Oh, right.

[1231] Yeah, like, there comes a real weird line.

[1232] Like, you know, part of that discussion, too, was like the way we were kind of forced to ingest it through auto play.

[1233] This was a big part of the story was how, you know, Facebook has recently introduced autoplay, so you're scrolling.

[1234] It just plays immediately.

[1235] That's another example of what I'm talking about, about.

[1236] I don't know that you could call Facebook the intellectual web, but if you're a guy like Zuckerberg or someone in that office, at some point, you know that what you're doing is you're about to introduce millions and millions of people to something they'd probably rather not watch.

[1237] Well, that was a big deal with ISIS too, because ISIS has had some of the people in ISIS or ISIL, whatever you want to call it, they have had many, many, many accounts banned because they'll find these, they'll make these accounts, create these accounts, and start uploading photos of people being beheaded, uploading videos of people being beheaded.

[1238] And they put these on Instagram or, you know, Twitter or whatever the hell they are.

[1239] And it's up to these outlets, these platforms to find these things and to take them down.

[1240] But I went to a fucking ISIS Twitter page that somebody had sent me to and I was like, holy shit.

[1241] Bad idea.

[1242] Like people don't even know about it.

[1243] They haven't even taken this down yet.

[1244] It was just beheadings.

[1245] And then there was YouTube videos that were links to that they hadn't found those yet either.

[1246] The YouTube videos were they were shooting people on the ground and cutting their heads off and holding their heads.

[1247] I mean, the full deal on YouTube.

[1248] Yeah.

[1249] Well, here's my thing is I think that battle is kind of impossible to completely control the speed at which people can put stuff up.

[1250] Yeah.

[1251] But the auto play thing, like have the choice to click the button, at least at a minimum.

[1252] Yeah, I talked about that a couple weeks ago.

[1253] Somebody posted or I was just like looking at puppies and stuff.

[1254] And then out of nowhere was a woman in a car accident with her face missing and she was picking at her face.

[1255] And it was one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.

[1256] And I think about it all the time.

[1257] You know, like, I shouldn't have never have seen that.

[1258] And now I can't stop thinking about it.

[1259] And you didn't have the option.

[1260] I didn't have the option.

[1261] I mean, how many times have you clicked on a video and said, fuck, I wish I didn't click on that?

[1262] And then you learn.

[1263] And, you know, like, I've sent you stuff and you sent me stuff.

[1264] I'm like, I don't even want to watch that.

[1265] Right.

[1266] And you just decide.

[1267] Yeah.

[1268] My life is more important.

[1269] Now, imagine if every time those exchanges took place, it auto played.

[1270] Yeah.

[1271] Came up on your phone immediately.

[1272] Why would they do that at Facebook?

[1273] Oh, oh, it's a great, there's a great fucking reason is to beef up their viewership figures.

[1274] That's stupid.

[1275] Yeah, because then they can go to advertisers and say, look how many views it got.

[1276] Oh, that's gross.

[1277] Oh, it's the most gross thing ever.

[1278] And people, the reason YouTubers, a lot of YouTubers are especially upset with it is a lot of people are freebooting our content, not mine specifically, but a lot of other ones, specifically in the comedy genre.

[1279] Because you can take this clip off YouTube, upload it natively to Facebook, have it auto play, build this huge profile for yourself based off someone else's content that they've made, and there's no way for you to go and track it down, and Facebook isn't being vigilant about going and finding that stuff.

[1280] In some cases, YouTubers I know have missed out on millions, tens of millions of views that happened elsewhere and were associated with some other account on Facebook.

[1281] And there was another account.

[1282] They might not have even known about it.

[1283] No, they didn't.

[1284] They wouldn't know about it until somebody saw it that was also a fan of theirs that would then tweet it to them or whatever and say there's this completely fake profile of yours on Facebook, uploading all your stuff and pretending to be you.

[1285] And do they get advertising revenue from that?

[1286] Well, usually the way it will work is that they'll build up a large profile.

[1287] So you take really funny 15 second videos.

[1288] So there you go.

[1289] So you get a shit, you get a shit ton of followers.

[1290] And then every so often, after you've got.

[1291] this shit ton of followers you insert some branded thing that you're attempting to do and you're so you're utilizing someone else's profile to build your very own it you're not necessarily making immediate money from it but you're opening up uh the possibility to do so after the fact like he said with fat jew if if you've got five six 10 million followers on someone else's back at that point it doesn't matter why you can shut off the old way of doing business then start doing your original stuff at that point once you've already got an audience right right well Well, what Fat Jew did is he took advantage of this new way of doing comedy.

[1292] Yes.

[1293] Where you could just take a photo and put some text to it.

[1294] And it's one of my favorite ways of comedy.

[1295] That thing that I sent you the other day, the one of Caitlin Jenner, is that the right way?

[1296] That's the name, yeah.

[1297] Caitlin Jenner in a Porsche, and it says 2011 Porsche with a rebuilt Tranny.

[1298] Cool.

[1299] And I fucking, I laugh so hard And somebody sent that to me I sent it to everybody I know And I was just howling But you probably have no idea who created it Exactly.

[1300] I felt bad in that way That I don't know And that's why I didn't post it on social media But I did retweet it, I think I think I retweeted it Yeah, see I mean it's super cloudy It is cloudy But what was not cloudy About the fat juice situation Was that he was purposely not attributing it to the people That created it And even sometimes like there's some of the other ones that girl that was changing words changing like someone had originally tweeted something about a cat and she would change it to a dog but the exact same joke exact same joke yeah and changed and that was the other thing fat jew was doing is changing the text of the image but writing the same thing so it was deliberate like there was he's still doing it too is he really yeah there was a nice article written the other day how he's still doing it and he's He also has, like, all these fake accounts that he's giving the credit to, but it's, like, a locked account with one post.

[1301] Oh, yeah.

[1302] Yeah, there's, uh, there's some fuckery of foot.

[1303] It's, it, honestly, and even though those things are so enjoyable, I intentionally avoid those pages on Instagram just because of that reason.

[1304] Really?

[1305] Yeah.

[1306] I mean, it's like, I might get a laugh out of it, but it's not, it's not, it's not somebody's, somebody create, like, I'm not buying anything from fat Jew, you know?

[1307] So the problem is...

[1308] Yeah, I know, but see, the thing is that your behavior influences what gets rebroadcast, especially on Instagram, because if it's like previous photos you've liked, and then in other people's Discover page, I'm sure you have a lot of followers, now they're seeing that thing surface.

[1309] So it's hard to actually do shit on Instagram without helping the shit that you're looking at.

[1310] And advertisers don't give a fuck.

[1311] They'll give him a shit a lot of money just because of all the stolen work.

[1312] Yeah, but hold on a second.

[1313] So if you like something, but I don't like anything.

[1314] Sometimes it's liked.

[1315] If you go on the Discover page and it'll be based on stuff you've liked, based on people you follow.

[1316] Put a picture of you up there right now.

[1317] Based on people you follow.

[1318] And I think there's one other one, based on other photos you've liked, something like that.

[1319] It's algorithmically trying to make suggestions for photos that you might actually like.

[1320] That's why it's the Discover page.

[1321] Okay.

[1322] So if, yeah, if you don't hit the heart, I don't know if there's a way.

[1323] I don't hit that heart.

[1324] You never hit the heart?

[1325] I don't fuck with the heart.

[1326] Nope.

[1327] You've never hit the heart on Instagram.

[1328] If I hit it and I see it, I unhit it.

[1329] Too late, too late.

[1330] They got the data.

[1331] I'll comment on friends stuff, but I don't really like things.

[1332] What's this about?

[1333] Should I?

[1334] Well, I just feel like, you know, you could reciprocate a little something every so often.

[1335] If I saw a Joe Rogan heart, I might get a smile for a minute, you know?

[1336] Oh, I didn't know.

[1337] Okay, I'll start hearting your stuff.

[1338] Yeah, thank you very much.

[1339] All right?

[1340] Apparently you haven't been noticing my heart.

[1341] Well, that's a thing, too, right?

[1342] Like, if you put something up and it gets hearted, you know, you notice how many likes you have.

[1343] But what you don't know is how many views something's got.

[1344] On Instagram.

[1345] Yeah, on Twitter, the analytics are pretty cool.

[1346] Yeah, they're pretty interesting.

[1347] You can see everything.

[1348] Yeah, I just got one.

[1349] Like, the Nick Diaz one that I put, 407 ,942 views.

[1350] Look at you.

[1351] That's awesome.

[1352] Everybody's looking for you to make, you know, to say something about that.

[1353] The Nick Diaz thing, yeah.

[1354] You think that'd be turned around?

[1355] Well, here's the thing.

[1356] Those people weren't even willing to take into consideration the fact that he passed two tests.

[1357] He passed two tests, two WADA tests, World Anti -Doping Association tests, and failed one from some fucking local lab.

[1358] And the local labs numbers were off the chart.

[1359] So two out of three tests he passed.

[1360] They weren't even willing to take into consideration those other tests because they didn't perform them.

[1361] Not only that, they're performing urine tests, which are significantly less accurate.

[1362] than blood tests.

[1363] So they fucked him.

[1364] They fucked him raw, and they fucked him out of $165 ,000 in five years of his career.

[1365] Why five years?

[1366] And then John Jones only got one year for cocaine.

[1367] He didn't get one year for cocaine.

[1368] Anderson Silva got one year for steroids.

[1369] John Jones has not applied for a license to fight, and his court case has not been settled.

[1370] He's not been found guilty.

[1371] So they don't know.

[1372] And his cocaine use was what's called out -of -competition cocaine use.

[1373] Like when John Jones got caught for cocaine, He got cough or cocaine when he was not, it wasn't going to be affecting him while he was fighting.

[1374] The idea with these tests with marijuana is that if you can catch someone who was taking marijuana while they were competing, then it could be a factor.

[1375] Because it may affect their performance?

[1376] Yes, it may affect their performance.

[1377] But here's a deal.

[1378] There's no scientific evidence whatsoever that marijuana is a significant effector of performance to the point where it should be banned.

[1379] Like, caffeine significantly affects performance, and it's legal.

[1380] I believe you can have up to 200 milligrams of caffeine and compete under Olympic rules.

[1381] And Chale Sunn and he actually told me that he takes it in pill form because he doesn't want to fuck up and get an extra strong cup of coffee and break the grid or break the test.

[1382] But if you, like, go to Starbucks, like, you know, we've tried to figure it out before, like, how much caffeine is in one of those things that Brian drinks because he drinks those 30 -ounce fucking.

[1383] And the jug.

[1384] Star of death.

[1385] You know, but you don't really know exactly.

[1386] So you have to take like a pill in order to really modulate it perfectly.

[1387] Right.

[1388] If you're an athlete.

[1389] Wow.

[1390] Because there's a significant effect.

[1391] Caffeine can give you more endurance.

[1392] Oh, it can help you.

[1393] 100%.

[1394] I'll take caffeine before I play hockey every time.

[1395] Yeah.

[1396] And it's legal.

[1397] It's totally legal.

[1398] So, I mean, the arguable effect that marijuana does give you, it might give you some dilation of your lungs.

[1399] It might give you a slal.

[1400] light advantage in your cardio because of that or a focus advantage which is like for some people could help like a guy like Nick Diaz it might help him be more comfortable because he likes being high all the time anyway right so if you let him fight high yeah but it's not enough where it's going to allow them to hurt somebody more see the idea of a performance enhancing drug is steroids EPO all the stuff that like those cyclists get banned for those things make you stronger, faster, and in the case of mixed martial arts, it will allow you to hurt your opponent.

[1401] It's arguable that marijuana does have some performance enhancing effect, like with Jiu -Jitsu, a lot of Jiu -Jitsu guys, me included, like to get high before they train.

[1402] But, man, I'm not much better.

[1403] I mean, I think it's a slight thing where you're, like, a little better.

[1404] But it's not, like, with pool, same thing.

[1405] You, like, feel a little more in tune with it.

[1406] But it's not significant enough where you wouldn't be able to perform at that, level without it.

[1407] Like when we see athletes that get off steroids, man, the fucking drop -off is goddamn dramatic.

[1408] The difference between a steroid using athlete and an athlete that's forced to go off steroids, you see it in their body, they get soft, they have loose skin, you see it in their physical performance, they get tired quicker, they're not as aggressive, they're not as confident, they start posting shit on their Instagram praise, all this motivational shit like a suicidal stripper.

[1409] That's what happens, man. It starts some with your head because you realize like you you got to pump yourself up now because you're not jacked to the tits on some artificial testosterone right so that in comparison to pot there's no fucking comparison right and testosterone was legal until like a year ago they were allowing these guys to get on testosterone replacement therapy is pot legal in other sports well the NBA is apparently the one sport where so many guys are smoking pot.

[1410] That's what I've heard.

[1411] That they don't have it in the contract where they test them.

[1412] They don't, they don't allow themselves to be tested.

[1413] So how is it that this is even on the table to begin with?

[1414] First of all, because there's no union.

[1415] If there was a fighter's union and the fighters union could go to the athletic commissions and say we all.

[1416] Fuck you.

[1417] We're not coming to Vegas, you dummies.

[1418] And then the other problem is if someone's banned in Vegas, they're banned in the world.

[1419] Because if you violated, then there's all sorts of fucking lawsuits and bullshit.

[1420] That is the part that I can't wrap my head around.

[1421] Not only that, but you're being banned by idiots, okay?

[1422] You're being banned by people who don't understand the sport.

[1423] If they did understand a sport, first of all, they would have fired 60 % of their judges.

[1424] 60 % of their judges, any judge that hasn't had any martial arts experience, any judge that you should run them through a course.

[1425] Is this guy in danger?

[1426] Is he in danger now?

[1427] Is this dangerous?

[1428] Is this submission close?

[1429] Is this one close?

[1430] How effective is that?

[1431] If you don't know that, you can't judge a martial arts.

[1432] arts fight on a professional level, but yet they do.

[1433] So these are ineffective commissions in the first place.

[1434] On top of that, they're bureaucrats.

[1435] These are government people.

[1436] And firing these people is just like firing someone from the DMV or firing some from the post office.

[1437] It's fucking difficult.

[1438] And there's all sorts of hoops and there's protections that those people have in place that the fighters do not have.

[1439] So you have an unfair playing field and these people have this ultimate tyranny over fighters.

[1440] So, it seems pretty obvious that Nevada is fucked.

[1441] Ficked.

[1442] Is there any chance that the UFC affiliation with Nevada ever changes?

[1443] Well, they can't.

[1444] They're going to have fights in Nevada.

[1445] Nevada's a spot, man. If you want to have fights, you go to Vegas.

[1446] I know.

[1447] Why does it happen?

[1448] Because it's the shit.

[1449] It's the best place for fights.

[1450] But how much could they continue to fuck up and you still continue to do it?

[1451] They need to be overhauled, not Vegas.

[1452] Vegas is fucking awesome.

[1453] Look, if you're going to have fights, you want to.

[1454] I'm saying any time, you go to the MGM, the place is packed, the fucking casinos there, you're drinking until 6 o 'clock in the morning if you want.

[1455] I completely agree.

[1456] But anytime you're in any kind of negotiation, you have to be willing to walk away.

[1457] And if they continue to fuck up, what's the risk to them?

[1458] I think the public reaction to this Nick Diaz thing is unprecedented.

[1459] I tweeted the phone number for the Nevada State of Atlanta Commission today and said, please call them up and let them know how you feel about them fucking over Nick Diaz.

[1460] All right, I'm retweeting.

[1461] They can't even fucking take calls now.

[1462] They're swamped.

[1463] And I'll do it tomorrow, too.

[1464] I'll do it until they stop.

[1465] I'll do it for the rest of my life.

[1466] I'll fucking wake up every morning.

[1467] I'll have an alarm clock.

[1468] Well, here's the new number for the Nevada State Athletics.

[1469] Schedule tweets.

[1470] Look, they stole five years from this guy's career, and they stole $165 ,000 from his purse, and they weren't even willing to take into consideration the other two tests that he failed.

[1471] It is a goddamn dog and pony show.

[1472] It's a tyranny.

[1473] And what these people are doing is wrong.

[1474] It's just wrong.

[1475] This is not a person who set out to cheat.

[1476] This is the guy who doesn't use steroids.

[1477] Nick Diaz is notoriously anti -steroid.

[1478] This is a guy who's one of the toughest, most exciting guys in the sport.

[1479] He's fun to watch.

[1480] And also probably has social anxiety issues that marijuana helps alleviate.

[1481] Yeah, I read that interview with him, like about what he said shortly after.

[1482] Yeah.

[1483] It's awful, man. You know, look, what they did is wrong.

[1484] It's wrong.

[1485] It's not, you shouldn't fight high, okay?

[1486] If you fight high, there should be a penalty, like 50 bucks.

[1487] Yeah, charge his guy fought high.

[1488] But like, listen, man, if a guy kicks your ass high, you probably kick your ass sober.

[1489] You know, I just don't, I don't, it's not like taking beta blockers or something to completely eliminate your nervousness.

[1490] Yeah, that's the thing.

[1491] That's the one thing I heard, though, is that maybe your pain threshold is elevated.

[1492] You know what, man, I don't buy that.

[1493] Here's why I don't buy that.

[1494] You don't feel pain when you're fighting anyway.

[1495] you're so jacked up with adrenaline there's so many times when you fight and after it's over you realize your hand is broken or something wrong with your like John Jones perfect example I'm interviewing him while I'm interviewing him after he beat the shit at jail son and he looks down and sees his toe upside down he had no idea he had no idea until he looked down he saw that his toe was flipped over and the bottom of his toe was facing up I was there I saw it happen and he immediately goes oh my toe oh man oh man we got him a chair and he sat I continue the interview with him, literally going into shock over his toe.

[1496] Why was that?

[1497] It wasn't because he was on a drug.

[1498] He wasn't high.

[1499] It was because his adrenaline.

[1500] Would that injury have had to have the fight stopped?

[1501] Most likely.

[1502] If it went to the end of the round or whatever.

[1503] Well, Uriah Hall had a similar injury.

[1504] It wasn't to his big toe, but his other toes was a compound fracture was broken and the bone was poking out of his toe.

[1505] And he still fought two more rounds with it and he still threw kicks with that fucking leg and won the fight.

[1506] That's how tough Uriah Hall is But, I mean, he had to You know, he had to be mentally tough I mean, he had to go back to his corner He realized his toe was completely fucked And he just said, okay, whatever And I mean, limped back to his corner But once the round started, dude was on his feet And moving around like nothing was wrong He just dealt with the pain And said, I'm gonna win this fucking fight anyway You know, and...

[1507] Incredible.

[1508] A lot of that is also because of adrenaline Your adrenaline shields you from...

[1509] You know, your adrenaline realizes is you're in a battle for your life.

[1510] You don't need to worry about bruises.

[1511] You don't need to worry about pain.

[1512] It's not pain necessarily that stops fighters.

[1513] It's debilitating techniques, like a liver shot.

[1514] When you get hit with a liver shot, it's not like, oh, my God, it was so painful.

[1515] It fucking definitely hurts.

[1516] But the real problem with the liver shot is it shuts your system down.

[1517] Your system doesn't work anymore.

[1518] You get nailed with like a left hook to the liver.

[1519] Boom, it hits you, and it's this crazy feeling.

[1520] Like your breath doesn't work anymore.

[1521] Your legs lock up being like, It's not a pain thing.

[1522] It's a system shut down.

[1523] When you get knocked out, you get kicked in the head.

[1524] It's not that your head hurts.

[1525] Of course it hurts.

[1526] But the real problem is not pain.

[1527] The real problem is your brain shuts off.

[1528] You get neck kicked.

[1529] It cuts off the circulation to your brain.

[1530] There's spark.

[1531] All the fucking nerves get shattered.

[1532] Everything gets walked out.

[1533] And your brain goes, okay, night, night.

[1534] And you shut off.

[1535] It's a full system shut down.

[1536] It wasn't a choice at all, obviously, yeah.

[1537] There's pain that these guys experience.

[1538] but that's not necessarily what stops fights.

[1539] So the pain threshold thing, I don't buy it.

[1540] I think the real pain threshold is adrenaline.

[1541] That's what really keeps you from feeling pain, and we're going to have that naturally.

[1542] That's the most effective thing.

[1543] Marijuana is an effective pain reducer after competition or after training.

[1544] It's with one of the things that people really like to do.

[1545] They have a hard day of training.

[1546] They like to sit back, smoke a joint, and watch a little TV.

[1547] Well, they can't do that if they're being tested.

[1548] know, in this really restrictive way, so on, yeah.

[1549] Well, this, again, the marijuana thing, they've changed the threshold considerably.

[1550] And I had Jeff Novitsky on the podcast.

[1551] I listened to that episode, yeah.

[1552] It's amazing.

[1553] Really interesting guy and very smart and very, you know, on top of the testing thing.

[1554] And he's like, it's out of competition if you're not, if you're, you would literally have to get high the day of the fight to test positive now.

[1555] That's the way they're doing it.

[1556] So the test that Diaz got popped for was before.

[1557] this alteration was made?

[1558] Nope.

[1559] It's by the current standards.

[1560] So the problem is, he tested twice under the threshold of the current standards.

[1561] The WADA tests had him under the threshold, which says he was not high when he competed.

[1562] But the test that they used from, I believe it was Quest Labs, sorry if I'm wrong, but I believe, which is, you know, a very good lab, but it showed a completely different test than the test that WADA instituted.

[1563] On top of that, again, we're talking about urine.

[1564] We're talking about urine versus blood.

[1565] And when you're testing metabolize...

[1566] And so why in that particular, in this particular case, did that test take precedent over the...

[1567] Because it's their test.

[1568] Who's they?

[1569] Nevada State Athletic Commission.

[1570] That's where it's fucked.

[1571] It's not the UFC's test.

[1572] The UFC has no fucking place in this.

[1573] They brought in the U .S. ADA, U .S. Anti -Doping Association, which is where Novitsky comes in.

[1574] They brought those guys in.

[1575] I guess I'm referring to them as the U .S. because...

[1576] they're hired by them.

[1577] They're hired by the UFC to clean up the sport, but they have no say on how the tests are implemented, how the results are dispersed.

[1578] The idea of bringing in the government and bringing in a guy like Novitsky is, look, if you really want to clean up the sport, you hire a fucking bulldog who's just going to go after it.

[1579] You don't do it yourself.

[1580] Because if you do it yourself, there's always the possibility that someone could hide the results because there's a financial interest.

[1581] Like you would test Connor McGregor, you find out he's fighting high, you're like, look, huh?

[1582] Listen, you're saying some great shit, but you can't, you can't fight high, dude.

[1583] But with the USADA, you don't have a say in how the stuff is, you don't have a say in what, exactly, that sounds perfect.

[1584] Exactly.

[1585] And that's how they want to do it.

[1586] And that's, but that's a, what that shows is a real commitment to cleanup the sport.

[1587] But I don't understand what good it is if it doesn't take precedence, and what do you waste it all this money for?

[1588] It's because the Nevada State Athletic Commission is incompetent.

[1589] And they're, they are a tyranny.

[1590] And there are a bunch of people that have, if you watch the fucking the commission, those people are drunk with power.

[1591] They're drunk with power and they felt like they were made fools of because he's tested positive before.

[1592] But he tested positive before under their different thresholds, the thresholds that existed before the current established standard.

[1593] It's all fucked.

[1594] Who hires these people?

[1595] Like where.

[1596] It's a good question.

[1597] Like where, who do you go after?

[1598] Is there some kind, is it the governor?

[1599] Like at the highest level.

[1600] It should be the governor.

[1601] I think the governor did step in once, and there was an investigation when there was a woman who was tested.

[1602] She judged the Tim Bradley -Manny Pacquiao fight, like really poorly, and she was one of the reasons why Pacquiao didn't win that fight, and then they went over her history of judging fights.

[1603] And they're like, what the fuck?

[1604] Like, she gets a lot of fights wrong, and she would get fights wrong that, like, were, like, really bad decisions.

[1605] And so they were trying to figure out, like, what does she know about fight?

[1606] Did she know, how does she get this job?

[1607] Who hired her?

[1608] How does this work?

[1609] And so the governor stepped in because there was a national outcry over a couple of boxing decisions.

[1610] So that's it.

[1611] His office needs to be bombarded right now.

[1612] I hope they are.

[1613] Well, there's a government petition.

[1614] Somebody put out a White House petition to reinstate Nick Diaz.

[1615] But what's shown up, this is what needed to be done.

[1616] And this is the good thing about this.

[1617] We needed to see how dumb these fucking people are.

[1618] We need to see how bad they are at their jobs.

[1619] how cruel they are, how callous they are.

[1620] The fact that they don't, they could just think it's okay to take away $165 ,000 from the guy's purse and take away his ability to compete and make a living for five years in his prime.

[1621] Yeah, it's his career.

[1622] It's done.

[1623] It's over.

[1624] Yeah, five years is a career killer.

[1625] I mean, Nick, Ted's care of was...

[1626] How did they come up with that number?

[1627] Alexander Schlomenko got tested positive in California, and Andy Foster, who's the chairman in California, he's very hell -bent on taking out cheaters.

[1628] He doesn't want any of that shit.

[1629] And Schlomenko's tests were through the roof.

[1630] His testosterone was way out of whack.

[1631] And they, you know, and he's got a court case, and I don't know how that's going to go.

[1632] I don't know what really, we don't know.

[1633] You know, you never know.

[1634] How do you feel about, okay, even in the case of steroids where it's an obvious performance enhancer?

[1635] How do you feel about a five -year suspension for that?

[1636] Like a five -year suspension?

[1637] Is there ever a place for five years?

[1638] Well, here's the thing Devana tried to ban Vandali Silva for a lifetime.

[1639] That was who I was thinking of.

[1640] That's who I was thinking of.

[1641] They lost that.

[1642] They lost that in court.

[1643] So they couldn't.

[1644] They went to court.

[1645] Van der Leigh's lawyers went to court, and they beat that.

[1646] Of course they beat it.

[1647] Because he didn't even test positive for anything.

[1648] He ran away from the test.

[1649] He ran away from the test.

[1650] You run away from the test in their eyes.

[1651] You're guilty.

[1652] And they wanted to send a message.

[1653] They're not to be trifled with.

[1654] Says Dia's going to take this to court, you think?

[1655] Fuck, yeah, and he's going to win, too.

[1656] And I hope he sues this shit out of them.

[1657] I hope he sues this shit out of them.

[1658] I really do.

[1659] And I hope he wins, and I hope that the governor steps in or someone steps in that can say, there are people that you can hire that will understand what the fuck is going on.

[1660] You need former athletes.

[1661] You need people who are experts in science and medicine that understand what the thresholds are, understand the difference between urine tests and blood tests.

[1662] And also, you need commissioners that you're going to need people that have the educated ability to make these judgments based on whatever discipline that they would need to be a master of to understand this.

[1663] Like if you're talking about steroids, you would need someone who's a steroid expert.

[1664] If you're talking about performance -enhancing drugs like meth or you would need someone, you should have to establish the fact that you understand what the effects of all these things are.

[1665] You should have to have some education in the effects of all these things.

[1666] Now, with marijuana, there's no data.

[1667] You've got no data that shows that if a person takes marijuana, they can hurt someone more easily than if they don't take marijuana.

[1668] So as soon as you have that, you don't have any data.

[1669] So if you don't have any data, then you've got to go, how are you banning people for this?

[1670] Like, Ronda Rousey fucking went off today.

[1671] It was beautiful.

[1672] I watched that clip.

[1673] She went off and dropped the mic after it was over.

[1674] Yeah.

[1675] And one of the things that she said, I totally agree with about marijuana, she said this in the past, too, it's an invasion of privacy is what it is.

[1676] You're invading someone's privacy, just like the fact that if you work for a company and the company decides to test you, and you work all week, you do a great job, you work hard, and then Friday's, it's five o 'clock, baby, it's over.

[1677] You want to smoke a joint.

[1678] You're home.

[1679] You worked all day.

[1680] You want to watch the walking dead.

[1681] You want to put your feet up and you want to get high.

[1682] You can't.

[1683] You fucking can't because they own you.

[1684] They own you.

[1685] They own your flesh.

[1686] They literally own your mind when you're not there.

[1687] Because everyone knows that marijuana is not psychoactive permanently.

[1688] It's not like you smoke a joint on Friday.

[1689] And then you show up on Monday morning, you're still high as fuck, and you're high for the rest of your life.

[1690] That's not the case.

[1691] So if you smoke pot, you will be tested four or five weeks from now, you will still test positive.

[1692] If you don't smoke any pot If you get high right now And then four weeks from now They give you a urinalysis test Depending on what they're looking for If they're just trying to trace metabolites You can still test positive in four weeks That's fucking insane So it's simply a control thing It's a power thing It's a power thing These people are government people They're government people That like to be able to tell people what to do That's my concern though Is if it's a power thing How deep is it?

[1693] How many levels does it go to How many judges our friends would anonymous should find out yeah well they probably already on the case but ultimately i hope they're on the case yeah ultimately anonymous public public outcry look this is a tyranny these are a few people that are deciding which is this again we're not talking about steroids here we're just talking about pot yeah it just doesn't make sense and we're also talking about a guy who passed two world anti -doping agency tests those are the most tricks fucking tests in the world of sports.

[1694] He passed two of those and failed a Quest I think it's Quest.

[1695] Again, I apologize for I'm wrong.

[1696] But the bottom line is the tests were not the test that you need when you're taking away a guy's fucking livelihood and you're finding him for $165 ,000 out of a $500 ,000 purse, which, by the way, he has to pay his managers, he has to pay taxes, he has to pay all these different things.

[1697] When you make $500 ,000, you don't make $500 ,000.

[1698] Of course.

[1699] Because you have a manager.

[1700] The manager has 10%.

[1701] You might have an agent.

[1702] The agent gets a piece.

[1703] You might have a lawyer.

[1704] You might have a business manager.

[1705] You might have to pay taxes.

[1706] You have training expenses.

[1707] You have training partners.

[1708] You have to be very strict.

[1709] And Nick is notoriously disciplined with his diet.

[1710] I mean, he eats all organic food.

[1711] He's mostly vegan, except I think he eats some fish.

[1712] He doesn't eat any land animals.

[1713] And he does this based on the effect on his body because he's an extreme endurance athlete.

[1714] He does a lot of triathlons, and he does a lot of running.

[1715] He swam back and forth from Alcatraz twice.

[1716] I mean, he's a motherfucker, dude.

[1717] He takes care of his body.

[1718] And if he's smoking pot, that should tell you that pot's not bad for your body.

[1719] It's real simple.

[1720] But he's not cheating.

[1721] He's not doing steroids.

[1722] He's not doing anything that gives him an unfair advantage.

[1723] He's working hard.

[1724] He's tough as shit.

[1725] And he fucking fights smart.

[1726] And these assholes, they stole his ability to entertain people.

[1727] And he's one of the most popular guys in the fucking sport.

[1728] When he came back and fought Anderson Silva, the pay -per -view was through the roof.

[1729] And why was that?

[1730] Well, partly because people wanted to see what Anderson -Silva would look like after he came back from a leg injury, this horrific leg break.

[1731] But also, it's because he's fighting Nick Diaz.

[1732] You know, Nick Diaz is going to talk shit to him like he did, like he got in his face.

[1733] He's like, what, bitch?

[1734] What, bitch?

[1735] Like, nobody had ever done that to Anderson -Silva before.

[1736] He laid down on the ground like he was making a sleepy face.

[1737] Like, look, I'm sleeping.

[1738] You're boring the fuck out of me. And jump back up to his feet.

[1739] He humiliated Anderson, completely fucked with his head inside that cage.

[1740] That's what people paid for.

[1741] And what he is experiencing right now is a bunch of assholes taking away his ability to compete, taking away his ability to thrill people at what he does best.

[1742] This guy's worked for more than a fucking decade as a professional mixed martial arts fighter.

[1743] More than, who knows how many years before that training and learning how to fight, all that's taken away by some assholes.

[1744] I don't think it's going to stick at all.

[1745] It's not going to stick.

[1746] Yeah, I hope what the outcome is, is that we realize that these people are just bad at what they do, and they get removed.

[1747] Kevin Ioli wrote a fantastic piece about it.

[1748] Kevin Ioli, who's a very respected sports reporter, I forget what publication he writes for, but he's very respected in the world of combat sports especially.

[1749] He said they expose themselves as being ridiculous.

[1750] They expose themselves as being incompetent.

[1751] Yeah, it's like it takes a critical moment like this to get everybody motivated enough to.

[1752] to actually incite some change.

[1753] It made me so angry, dude.

[1754] Yeah.

[1755] I haven't seen this kind of reaction.

[1756] Not that I can remember.

[1757] This is the lion killer.

[1758] Yeah.

[1759] This is like the positive, this is like the positive of the, you know, the other side of the, you know, thing.

[1760] Because this is people taking social media.

[1761] Yeah, but you see, but the way that Joe's talking about here is is measured, right?

[1762] He's not saying go to these people's homes and torture their children.

[1763] Right.

[1764] That's the problem, is that, like, this stuff gets misconstrued, like, getting back to the lion killer thing is, like, yes, be motivated, but be smart about it.

[1765] Yes.

[1766] Well, it's also the thing that we were talking about before.

[1767] I think you're right, though, it does bring it full circle.

[1768] It's like this highlights what's good about people being able to express themselves.

[1769] And it also highlights how these established sort of structures, they operate on this old paradigm.

[1770] And they haven't caught up to the new paradigm yet.

[1771] They don't understand that this is not going to end.

[1772] Like, this whole Nick Diaz thing and the Vandali silver thing, you've got two legends of the sport that you've fucked.

[1773] You've fucked over, you know?

[1774] And there's one thing also when people are injured and they're taking things to help them recover.

[1775] Man, I'm not against that.

[1776] I'm just not.

[1777] Oh, really?

[1778] Yeah.

[1779] If a guy, like, there's certain things, there's certain things that you can take that will help you recover from injury that are absolutely legal.

[1780] Like, here's one, stem cells.

[1781] Okay?

[1782] Here's one that I have personal experience with.

[1783] Are those outlawed?

[1784] No, they're not.

[1785] But, dude, they fucking work.

[1786] They work to repair injuries.

[1787] They're incredible.

[1788] I mean, it's incredible.

[1789] They can regenerate cartilage now.

[1790] So if you don't have access to stem cells and you're competing with someone who does and this guy gets a stem cell injection on his knees and his knees are fixed up so he's going to be able to train harder and you have to tough through it, well, should that be legal?

[1791] Well, there's a similarity to that to people who.

[1792] Get knee injuries or knee surgeries and then take a steroid to help themselves repair quicker so they can get back to competing quicker.

[1793] You know, one of the fucked up things about this, too, is just looking at a surface level, these dudes go out there and beat each other up for other people's entertainment.

[1794] And, you know, in that interview with Diaz, after the fact, he was talking about how the people making decisions about what he can and can't do, those people sitting on the.

[1795] board or whatever the hell it is, they don't have to experience that, you know what I mean?

[1796] Like, they're not, and what you're saying as far as like recovery is concerned, it's like, how can a regular person make a judgment on that?

[1797] And coming back to the thing about having a union, fighters are the only people who should be making decisions about fighters.

[1798] Right.

[1799] And most fighters feel very strongly that you shouldn't be able to use performance enhancing drugs and compete.

[1800] And Rhonda has said this very clearly.

[1801] and she says something I totally agree with.

[1802] The difference between this in any other sport is if you give a guy steroids and he plays baseball, what's the big deal?

[1803] He's just going to hit a ball better.

[1804] But if you give a guy steroids and you let him fight, he could administer damage that maybe he would not have been able to administer.

[1805] He could hurt someone that maybe he wouldn't have had the endurance to hurt.

[1806] He wouldn't have been able to deliver the combination that wound up hurting this person very badly or possibly even killing someone.

[1807] And she said that if someone ever does die and the other person test positive or something, steroids they should they should really get charged with murder whoa yeah but i mean why it kind of does right i don't know about that i don't know about that either but there's a fine line i just think i just think it's so hard to put yourself in the person's shoes that's competing like for me for me i don't i don't have somebody trying to knock my fucking head off and if that was going to work for me i just feel like that you need a different kind of set of rules agreed upon by the person you're about to step in there with that's an interesting way of looking at it and I agree with that as well like say if you you two guys were going to fight and you made an agreement that we're both going to be juiced yes you should be able to do that yeah I think I agree with that and we probably and we could right yeah no it's not legal well not in not in not in not in a paper not on a paper not on The next thing.

[1808] The Frittitas need to do there.

[1809] You need to fucking buy an island in South Pacific.

[1810] I put some casinos in there.

[1811] That's perfect.

[1812] It is a fucking great idea.

[1813] No, no, no. What was that podcast you did with the floating countries?

[1814] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1815] That's right.

[1816] These guys that want to develop.

[1817] That's all you need.

[1818] A barge off the coast.

[1819] What do they call that shit again?

[1820] Seasteading.

[1821] Sea steading.

[1822] Thank you.

[1823] That's what it was.

[1824] Yeah, that's totally true.

[1825] That's totally true.

[1826] They need to have sea steading fights just off the coast.

[1827] Like you go to Catalina.

[1828] Yeah.

[1829] And you fucking.

[1830] they duke it out all juiced up everybody's 190 fucking percent testosterone free hookers in the audience sounds exciting as hell how much you're paying to get in there that's a ticket that's a lot that's not enough these hookers are good that's not enough money to pay for the ticket if they're all free how much these girls can't get paid they just want to be on the island this is I think what but I think in bringing you full circle what we're exposing here is that this ability to communicate about things.

[1831] It's changing.

[1832] It's changing radically.

[1833] And anybody has a say now.

[1834] Like literally anybody, no matter, you're not vetted out based on your intelligence.

[1835] You're not judged beforehand.

[1836] You're not, you know, screened.

[1837] Anybody can just scream out.

[1838] Like, I have a friend who goes and reads comments on his stuff and he gets all upset.

[1839] I go, you're getting upset at people you don't even know.

[1840] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1841] Like, you're allowing these people into your head.

[1842] And like, they're saying these people say idiotic things and he gets upset.

[1843] Like, of course they're going to say idiotic things.

[1844] They're idiots.

[1845] Do you hang out with idiots?

[1846] Well, listen, man, if you go to idiots' houses and start to ask them questions, they're going to say some shit you disagree with who.

[1847] You're going to argue with them all day?

[1848] You won't have a life.

[1849] You don't have enough time in the day to pay attention.

[1850] Look at yourself.

[1851] Make your own job.

[1852] Be honest and be self -objective.

[1853] Make your own sort of analysis of the pros and cons of your behavior and your thinking.

[1854] And then if they disagree with that, you kind of have at least some sort of an idea.

[1855] but you don't you don't have that idea on the internet see because you just you all you see is text you don't see the person's life behind that text you don't see what a fuck off they've been their whole life that's allowed them it's lacking context you don't see that they're 12 yeah and fucking mean too you know that's another thing to take into consideration I have to wonder like what the effect of it if like let's say for example I had access to the same stuff when I was 12 what I been the same asshole?

[1856] Probably.

[1857] I think I would have.

[1858] I was an angry kid.

[1859] If I was, if I was able to, for whatever reason, get upset about something that I felt in some way that I would be justified.

[1860] But again, my anger wouldn't have really been directed towards what I was getting upset about.

[1861] They would have just given me the green light to express some of the anger that I had about my own life.

[1862] You know, that's, I think that's a lot of what we're dealing with here.

[1863] Yeah, I think it just manifests itself in these various causes.

[1864] You know, Like it is that, like you said before, it is that people are not all that happy about their own personal situation.

[1865] Yes.

[1866] But it's a lot easier to latch on to conflict that someone else has sort of shaped for you than it is to necessarily tackle the super personal thing that you're upset with.

[1867] Yeah, or get your life to a point of balance where you can actually look at anything that's going on in the world and have just sort of an intelligent.

[1868] Well, and that's where I think that even though this is the wild.

[1869] West and everyone has a voice, there are obviously voices that have emerged as more prominent.

[1870] Well, and communities, too.

[1871] And communities, too.

[1872] And I think that that's where I still see a sense of responsibility that, okay, fine, all you need is a smartphone in Twitter to say what you want.

[1873] But it's not that, but influence still exists.

[1874] Yes.

[1875] And I feel like sometimes you'll witness influence being irresponsible.

[1876] Um, case and point, and I mean, I don't know how people feel about this, but like when Jimmy Kimmel was crying on the air, uh -huh.

[1877] Like, for me, that's an abusive influence because he wasn't painting the entire picture there.

[1878] Right.

[1879] He was, he was picking his side in a very short form little, what was it, two sentences, and then showing that kind of physical emotion associated with it, that was fuel, man. Yeah.

[1880] Well, that was his perspective, though.

[1881] His perspective, he's got a limited perspective.

[1882] First of all, you saw his perspective about video games and how offended people got about that.

[1883] They were calling in death threats against him, which I found incredibly ironic after he defends the Lion Hunter.

[1884] Then he goes off about video games, being a sport.

[1885] And people like, fuck you, you should die, you car.

[1886] I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

[1887] And I agree with the video game guys.

[1888] It's a sport.

[1889] Yeah, I'm with that.

[1890] So he's, what he was doing by saying, by mocking it, I guess he's trying to do comedy, but he's being disrespectful.

[1891] to an emerging sport, which is unquestionably involves skill and intelligence and planning and strategy.

[1892] He just didn't know.

[1893] He didn't know.

[1894] Exactly.

[1895] But he's also not informed about the line guy.

[1896] He was wrong.

[1897] That's what I'm saying.

[1898] That's what I'm saying.

[1899] It's like, I think we all need to get smarter if we have established a voice on the web, like take an extra second before you hit that send button.

[1900] I know I've had this experience myself in the various communications I've had about product.

[1901] let's say or videos I want to make or tweets I want to send of like what is the effect of this thing going to be it might even be the way that I feel and I still don't want to do it because I don't I'm thinking about the reaction I'm thinking about the trickle effect of this particular sentiment right and I don't think we're there yet I think a lot of the influencers if you want to call them that are behaving irresponsibly in in wanting to put out a hot take wanting to have something to say about this topic that has overwhelmed the web that we're susceptible to the same thing that the lower level jerk in his room or that other guy that you were speaking about because it's attractive it's attractive to get involved in the conversation even with limited information that's a real you're right you're dead right and I think we've all been guilty of that and I think that's a really good point and a really important point because I think that whenever a subject comes up people do if say there's no podcast no podcast at all and someone brought up some point like that lady who's denying people gay marriage, that lady in Kentucky.

[1902] Right, right.

[1903] And we would be like, this fucking dumb cunt.

[1904] Like, we would, we'll all start talking shit.

[1905] Like, someone, someone should go over her house to hold her down and make, make guys fuck right in front of her face.

[1906] You know, they would say a bunch of crazy shit that's not really a responsible thing to say.

[1907] But then you do it in a podcast, like in this phone, one of the things that I like about people wearing headsets is that at least it makes you think that you do something professionally.

[1908] Ah.

[1909] There's been a few.

[1910] There's been a few times where I was like, man, maybe wearing headsets.

[1911] Like, because you forget that this podcast.

[1912] That is fucking really cool what you're saying.

[1913] I never thought of that.

[1914] That's how I think about it.

[1915] Because I think there's something about it being in your ear.

[1916] Like I hear you in my ear just as clearly as I hear him, even though he's a few extra feet away.

[1917] We're all in the same sound wave.

[1918] And this makes me feel professional.

[1919] It extracts you just enough from the sort of regular hangout.

[1920] zone that you're like okay people are listening yeah people i you measure it just this maybe a second a second longer it's a real point that i think a lot of people especially comedians when i have comedians on the podcast sometimes they just forget that or they're not aware of that or they're not aware of it to the extent that i am because i know the numbers like you're you're doing a show and there's a lot of people listening and you have a responsibility to be entertaining but you also have a responsibility to be accurate you can't really say things that people might just take as fact when you haven't researched them because you're reaching millions and millions of fucking people now and you can change the way they look at things so like when this Mike Huckabee guy latches on that fucking guy who latched on to that Kim lady what the fuck her name is the Kentucky clerk who wouldn't allow people to get gaming he fucking immediately like this is a great thing he starts tweeting about it there's a warm religious freedom religious liberty and it's hilarious like hashtag religious liberty and all these other apes got involved, and they're all fucking, who, ho, ho, ho, ho, screaming and yelling, and it's cool.

[1921] It's cool to watch, because you're watching, like, the last gasps of a dying, ignorant perspective.

[1922] You're literally seeing the last few generations of monkeys that believe some dumb shit that was written on animal skins thousands of years ago.

[1923] You're seeing the last echoes of the game of telephone, where you tell someone and I tell someone, and it gets translated from generation to generation for over a thousand years before anybody bothers writing it down.

[1924] Then once they write it down, they write it down in a fucking dead language, and that's to be translated to all these other languages.

[1925] I mean, that is what we're seeing when we see that lady screaming with her glasses on it, the Mike Huckabee fucking convention.

[1926] Hey, we've got to stop all that butt fucking!

[1927] She's yelling it out.

[1928] We're seeing a woman who contradicts the very message of the Bible itself because she's been married four fucking times.

[1929] You're not supposed to get divorced How many religious people do you know that have tattoos?

[1930] You're not supposed to get tattoos You can't fucking pick and choose You can't pick and choose your shit Cherry pick your religion They cherry pick what they like And what they don't like about their religion What she has done is just as bad as a mouth fucking I think what you're saying Is completely true Here in North America But globally religion It ain't slowing down Well it's hard to get the internet to like places in the middle of nowhere and it's hard to get the influence of those communities in them but it will happen eventually I agree and when it does happen you realize that your perspective is simply the perspective of the people around you that you have sort of adopted and your your view of life your view of religion your view of all I mean I've had people on my podcast that used to be Muslim and they've become atheists and they've they lived there in in the Middle East and they were a part of that culture and they thought like those people did and then they came over here and they started reading and they started getting into it and they started really whoa whoa what the fuck is this ideology that I've subscribed to this isn't the only way to think and not only that it's not if you take enough time and look at it objectively it's not even rational it's not like this is a bulletproof ideology but that's how it's tried most religions try to pass their stuff off Scientology tries to pass themselves off like that they try to pass their stuff off bulletproof like this is the way that's the sale that's the sales pitch right this is the way to become happy yeah yeah it's but again i think the internet is the cure to that yeah information information for sure is is is the number one sort of uh ulterior fighting force against this type of stuff that you're talking about access to it in the same way uh we were talking about getting internet into hard -to -reach places, that's actually a Google X project that they're working on with these air balloons.

[1931] I don't know if you've heard about this.

[1932] Yeah, they're Wi -Fi balloons, right?

[1933] Yeah, so it's like weather balloons that hover above areas that have no service, hard -to -reach places, and they're on a cycle.

[1934] So, like, your phone is rapidly switching between the one that's actually overhead at that point, and as that one slowly drifts out of range on the jet stream, the next one flows in and then you hand off to that one so you don't notice an interruption in connection but since a weather balloon can't sit there forever it you know it's it's floating along with the weather system along with the weather system but some really cool technology there's some videos online that show how they've made it so the idea being is like places like North Korea right example float your fucking balloons shoot them out of the sky well it's actually kind of it They're pretty high up.

[1935] You sound like you're selling them.

[1936] And I am, I am.

[1937] Because fuck this North Korea shit.

[1938] For real.

[1939] For real.

[1940] For real.

[1941] That's bonkers that we're allowing that to still exist.

[1942] And the beauty of it is like going in there without weapons, going in there with information.

[1943] Don't you love that storyline?

[1944] We're going in there with connectivity, bitch.

[1945] We're going to bring it up from the grassroots, the rise of a nation.

[1946] Let the people make the decision for themselves.

[1947] And you've got South Korea right there.

[1948] I mean, it'd be so easy.

[1949] So you've got this beautiful little base to let these things go over.

[1950] I love the idea of informational warfare, you know, that it doesn't have to be about bullets and bombs, that if you can reach enough people with a particular message, you know, they can figure it out.

[1951] It'll take time, right?

[1952] For them, it'll take a lot of time.

[1953] They're so deep in the web.

[1954] I don't know, man, because anywhere, like you just spoke about a person completely changing their religious outlook, just upon arriving somewhere else.

[1955] You think about it, what is the difference?

[1956] It's the information available to them.

[1957] Even though it might not be on a phone or a laptop, it's the information they're supposed to by the culture they're surrounded with.

[1958] It's not the geographic location.

[1959] Yeah, you're right.

[1960] And if you look at how quickly uprisings took place in places like Egypt and so on.

[1961] It was just like, give them Twitter, holy shit, an immediate overhaul in the behavior because all of a sudden now you've got this massive cultural shift of communication and so on, and people with access to Google.

[1962] I mean, why do you think China has been blocking YouTube and Google since day one?

[1963] Day one, because the warfare has always been about information.

[1964] World War II doesn't happen without propaganda.

[1965] Well, I have a friend who worked, doesn't work anymore at Google, but she would go over to China and have meetings of these people, and they were like, well, we want access to these people's emails.

[1966] We want to be able to block these things.

[1967] They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not what we're doing.

[1968] That's not Google.

[1969] That's an important distinction to make because it's not that they're just blocked.

[1970] It's also that Google doesn't want to be there either for those exact reasons.

[1971] So it's a two -way thing.

[1972] But I think that the control structures that exist in our global perspective, they exist because of an agenda, a particular agenda, whatever that might be.

[1973] And you can't control people if you don't control information flow.

[1974] And also, I think that people almost automatically or naturally gravitate towards controlling others if they have power.

[1975] Nevada State.

[1976] Nevada State Athletic Commission or any king or dictatorship or what people felt about the NSA.

[1977] That's why people are so outraged with the Edward Stodin thing, that these people who are no different than you, no different than I, just got jobs and could research ex -girlfriend's emails.

[1978] And, I mean, they could do all kinds of creepy shit that you shouldn't really be able to do.

[1979] do and the public didn't know about power corrupts power corrupts absolutely and absolutely power absolute whatever the hell that works how's it going absolute power corrupts no power corrupts absolutely that's what it is power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely yeah and then governments have absolute power yeah government of north korea absolutely has absolute power and that's the scariest version that we have and it's also throws in the face whenever the u .s talks about invading syria or any of these other places like what about the worst spot yeah no about the spot with nuclear bombs it's run by a fucking nut completely true and when you have uh allies like south korea japan that are right in the zone there right in bomb zone and like what i just imagine that there was a border here with that kind of shit on the other side like that's a uh a daily life type situation for people in South Korea.

[1980] It's a completely developed place, much like here culturally, complete free and open marketplace, and their neighbor, their neighbor are these psychos.

[1981] Like, it's one thing for us to think about it at this distance, but those people, daily life, is wondering what the fuck is going to happen.

[1982] And the whole country, North and South Korea is like the size of Texas.

[1983] That too.

[1984] Yeah.

[1985] How big is North Korea in South Korea?

[1986] Find that out.

[1987] I might have made that up.

[1988] No, I would say you're about right.

[1989] And if the grocery stores are fake, You know, and if they're, like, putting this whole fake thing on, their nuclear stores are fake.

[1990] You know, like, how they have.

[1991] Yeah, the Vice documentary.

[1992] Oh, the restaurants.

[1993] Yeah.

[1994] The Vice did, they set up fake restaurants for PR purposes to make it look like they're normal.

[1995] But, you know, you got to know, their nuclear plans probably fake.

[1996] They can't do anything.

[1997] They're just, you know.

[1998] They've actually proven that, that they're nuclear missiles and they're all wonky.

[1999] They've done some tests and made they suck.

[2000] They're probably like Canadians or something.

[2001] How do you?

[2002] Hey, he looked right.

[2003] you sideways and i'm not gonna look at him now i'm not gonna give him they don't have innovation hey we keep you guys honest all right that's our job up there well you're nicer than us we always go over there and go god why can't be like can't they're so nice sell a liquor i heard i've actually been getting oh yeah that's fucked up don't get me started on that what's going on the government what government owns all the liquor in canada the LCBO no it's provincial the LCBO fuck you all right now You guys don't have legal weed anywhere, do you?

[2004] Legal weed, yeah, well, medical.

[2005] Yeah, but not like Colorado.

[2006] Nobody has given a fuck about weed in Canada for as long as I've been alive.

[2007] So maybe it's not on paper legal.

[2008] Why not it's just making on paper?

[2009] You know, Colorado has made more money in taxes this year for the first time ever than alcohol with weed.

[2010] More money from weed than alcohol.

[2011] Well, actually, and that's perfect for what he's talking about.

[2012] The LCBO is the Ontario Liquor Board, who is the single biggest retailer of alcohol in the world.

[2013] that's hilarious because it's a huge marketplace well big a big marketplace and they're the only sellers so they get to set the price so alcohol is expensive the stores are fucking magnificent samples and when they're open don't they close at 8 p .m so if you want to get some jack daniels at 8 10 you can't get it no most of them are 10 all right well it's still 10 he doesn't even go to bed until 60s most of them are 10 and listen and listen there's an argument to be made I I you know I I I I I I see that side of it, but there's some shady -ass liquor stores, too, that you don't have to deal with because it's treated the way that it is.

[2014] Yeah, but see, that's part of the fun of an open market, those shady -ass liquor stores.

[2015] That's true.

[2016] That's true.

[2017] Like, we're in Phoenix, we went to a drive -thru store.

[2018] We're in Phoenix.

[2019] There was a guy who, he's dead now, so we could talk shit about him.

[2020] He used to run this comedy club, and he was out of his fucking mind.

[2021] He wouldn't let us drink on stage.

[2022] He said it was a law, and we found out that there wasn't a law.

[2023] Right.

[2024] So what we decided to do was drive -to -thru -fucking liquor store.

[2025] A bottle of Jack Daniels in a flask.

[2026] And then while I was on stage, I explained that I was drinking Diet Coke, but I'd like to have warm Diet Coke and pour it in my cold Diet Coke.

[2027] And you would like, turn around.

[2028] I'm turning around.

[2029] Pull that out of my pocket.

[2030] I'm just going to pull.

[2031] And then one of the fucking waitresses ratted me out.

[2032] I'm with you.

[2033] I'll be there tomorrow, by the way.

[2034] Phoenix, Arizona, stand up live unless the Phoenix shooter hits me in Iko Tanaka.

[2035] The Phoenix?

[2036] Yeah, there's a highway shooter that's just shooting cars in Phoenix.

[2037] I think he's got 11 people so far.

[2038] Killed?

[2039] No, no one's been killed yet, but he's just shooting with sniper rifles.

[2040] So you and Hinchcliff and Iko Tanaka.

[2041] That's a great show.

[2042] And that's a stand -up live, great fucking comedy club.

[2043] We've got to, unfortunately, we've got to wrap this thing up.

[2044] Can I just be clear about one thing here?

[2045] Open market booze in Ontario, I'm for that, okay?

[2046] Okay.

[2047] The LCBO is okay, but I'm not.

[2048] That sounds like I was on team LCBO there.

[2049] I see.

[2050] I'm not.

[2051] what LCBO is.

[2052] That's the Ontario Liquor Board, the group that controls alcohol.

[2053] Oh, okay.

[2054] Free market.

[2055] Yes, free market.

[2056] Free market.

[2057] No, it didn't sound like you were...

[2058] Oh, okay.

[2059] He was painting something over there.

[2060] I just get frustrated every time I go to Toronto, and I'm like, I'm going to get some Jack Daniels.

[2061] Oh, wait, I can't.

[2062] Plan in advance.

[2063] Yeah, I know.

[2064] I'd forget.

[2065] Well, you could still go to a bar.

[2066] Yeah, yeah.

[2067] Yeah, but I'm, you know, I think liquor store should be 24 hours a day.

[2068] That's the one thing that I really love about Vegas is that they don't restrict when you drink.

[2069] The bad thing is you have to have...

[2070] 15 different kinds of AIDS to get a medical marijuana card there, but that's just for now.

[2071] Yeah, well, I suppose the thinking there might be that if people get high, they're drinking less, spending less, gambling less.

[2072] You want to hear irony?

[2073] One of the chairmen's, one of the commissioners for the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his company that he owns, applied for a medical marijuana license.

[2074] Whoa.

[2075] That's awesome.

[2076] Yeah, yeah, his name is, people dig into this.

[2077] His name is Commissioner Marmel, and his company applied for a marijuana dispensary license last year.

[2078] Anonymous.

[2079] How about that?

[2080] How about that, you twots?

[2081] Perfect.

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