Sam Richardson

[0] Welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair expert.

[1] I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by Lily Padman.

[2] And we have one of our very favorite comedians of all time on today, Sam Richardson.

[3] So fun.

[4] So funny.

[5] Oh, Detroit.

[6] Cedar Point.

[7] Oh, God.

[8] Yes, this will be the beginning of.

[9] These are all the things that that Doc liked about Sam.

[10] Oh, Sam Richardson.

[11] You know him.

[12] is the best part of anything you've ever seen him in you know of course he had the great show with tim robinson detroiters and the after party veep where we feel in love with them so good i think you should leave and then ted lasso for which he won an emmy and he has a new series out now on prime video called sausage party foodtopia so this is a series based on the hysterical cartoon of the same name sausage party so please check out on Prime Video, Sausage Party, Food Topia.

[13] Please enjoy The Prince from Detroit, Sam Richardson.

[14] He's an up here.

[15] Oh, my God, I'm so up here here.

[16] Me, too.

[17] I was trying very long.

[18] You're a loose.

[19] It's true.

[20] It's really cute.

[21] Thank you very much.

[22] It's afternoon swim.

[23] I live a ton.

[24] Oh, my God.

[25] You're fancy.

[26] We saw your car.

[27] Oh, yes.

[28] Don't blow them up.

[29] It's also not a Detroit vehicle.

[30] I know.

[31] We like it, though.

[32] It's okay.

[33] I have some foreign vehicles, too.

[34] Do you need anything before we begin?

[35] Drink a hot coffee or think about all the things.

[36] We have some RX bars, a little protein.

[37] We have water, of course, and we have coffee and tea.

[38] Do you look, a sparkling water in my jeans?

[39] Oh, my God, the one.

[40] Yeah, all the nice is to run one in?

[41] We do.

[42] No, no, no, no. We should have some.

[43] Just fucking watch this.

[44] I should stop asking people if they want anything, because we don't have anything.

[45] I know.

[46] It's embarrassing.

[47] Also, you know, it's like the opposite of the creative box where it's, like, helpful to have parameters.

[48] You go like, do you want anything?

[49] You start going like, huh, maybe a fruit smoothie would drive.

[50] Do you have a kai juice, assayi?

[51] You guys have a chutney?

[52] Oh, yeah, chutney would be like really good right now.

[53] It's like a bowl of chutney.

[54] Carl?

[55] Why, would you be so kind as to run up some paris for Mr. Richardson?

[56] Thank you.

[57] That's my kid's sister.

[58] Oh, yeah.

[59] She's an adult now.

[60] She's old.

[61] No, she's going to be my kid's sister.

[62] That's forever.

[63] Just the timeline.

[64] Yeah.

[65] She also went to, you went to a nice school.

[66] Yeah, I went to Yveseot.

[67] I know.

[68] This is going to be probably, unfortunately, for the listener, the most Michigan -centric.

[69] Can't wait.

[70] Yes.

[71] I can't wait.

[72] Even I was watching some interviews with you, and it's like, you couldn't get through an interview without dropping Cedar Point.

[73] Do you know how often I talk about Cedar Point?

[74] No one gives a fuck.

[75] I haven't been there in 20 years, but I can't get it out of my head.

[76] What was the last time I was I was at America's Ruler Coast?

[77] Mecca.

[78] Nirvana for the coaster enthusiasts.

[79] Entirely.

[80] This is Carly, my sister.

[81] Do you love Sam Carly?

[82] I'm obsessed.

[83] I just said, I'll borrow a lot.

[84] I got them off and I go, I got this.

[85] I got this.

[86] All right, love you, thank you.

[87] Thank you.

[88] How cute is my sister?

[89] Very super.

[90] She's got a great boyfriend, but would you like to marry her?

[91] That's a great girlfriend.

[92] I know, okay.

[93] Everyone's all tied up.

[94] Selfishly, if you were at Christmas, it'd be really great.

[95] It'd be fun.

[96] Yeah.

[97] Until it turns.

[98] Do you think it would turn?

[99] No, I don't think so.

[100] I don't think so.

[101] You can always fall back on Michigan.

[102] Yeah, we start talking about Cedar Point.

[103] Yeah, exactly.

[104] There's a nine -year age gap between you and I. So I'm hoping all the overlap still there.

[105] I think so.

[106] Because when I watched Detroiters, I was like, this is great.

[107] These guys are almost older than they should because you know all the old commercials.

[108] Yeah.

[109] But maybe they just ran forever.

[110] That's part of it.

[111] Some of these commercials were made once and then they just used those bad boys nonstop.

[112] Don't you wish our business was like that where you made a movie once and it came out every summer for the rest of your life?

[113] That would be fantastic.

[114] Yeah, it's probably to go with a without a movie.

[115] a paddle premiere next week.

[116] I'd be so happy.

[117] Yeah.

[118] I would show up to a Mike and Dave need Wayne Day's premiere annually.

[119] So in my memory, I only remember meeting you one time.

[120] I was seated behind you.

[121] Behind me at the Game of Thrones premiere.

[122] Oh, yes.

[123] And I was dressed to the nines.

[124] I had like a tank top on that said, Stark in the streets, wildlying in the sheets.

[125] Tattoos.

[126] You weren't as eventized as I was.

[127] but in spirit.

[128] Definitely, you know, I didn't want to announce my banners and my allegiance, smart.

[129] Knowing how the game of Thrones plays.

[130] Oh, it is circuitous.

[131] Yeah, wasn't everyone, like, dressed up, up?

[132] Yeah, most people were at a premiere, you know, like, what you would expect.

[133] Suits and such.

[134] Yeah.

[135] To bore you with ones to you.

[136] Well, fuck it.

[137] I'm sure I told you in the seat because I kept turning around to talk to you, and I was like, is he being friendly, or am I turning around too much?

[138] No way.

[139] Automatic, any Detroit, Michigan, connection we're good it's kind of like being an AA exactly that's the closest thing I think we have although I did have one bad Michigan oh yeah Monica will cut this out but I think you could even guess when I won't want to ensnare you in it let's do a clue make it connections oh oh interesting do you play oh I sure do I don't think I played too I did play today oh before you're switched poor lines perfect nice do you ever try for reverse back We invented that.

[140] No, what is reverse back?

[141] You got to go purple, blue, green, yellow.

[142] Okay, so here's my question on that.

[143] What is exactly purple?

[144] How do you know what purple is?

[145] This is part of the game.

[146] Okay.

[147] It's the hardest one.

[148] It's generally the one that's going to share a common word.

[149] Yes.

[150] A word play of sorts.

[151] Okay.

[152] What's really frustrating is you pursue the reverse back is I know you will now.

[153] I really will.

[154] The challenge isn't even necessarily getting them all or getting purpose.

[155] purple first, it's like green and blue.

[156] I don't know, man. We are often in great objection.

[157] Like, there's no way that was fucking easier than that.

[158] I would add so many stakes.

[159] But what bums me out sometimes is like, you're talking about hardware pieces and I saw a screw on there and you said screw's not, but that's hardware.

[160] She does misnomer's red herrings.

[161] Well, we've decided W -N -A is her name.

[162] Spelled W -Y -N -A.

[163] We thought it was W -W -N -A.

[164] It's W -W -N -A.

[165] That is Wynna, but I mean, between the three of us, it's Wynna.

[166] We all know it's Wyna.

[167] It's Wyna.

[168] Is there two ends maybe between the Y and the end?

[169] It's Winn.

[170] So like the Wynn, like the hotel.

[171] Oh, Steve Wynn.

[172] Like Steve Wynn.

[173] The man named after the hotel, I think.

[174] But she's grumpy like us.

[175] You're an improv master, a genius.

[176] I appreciate that.

[177] And sometimes when you're in a grumpy mood on the way in, you're still improvbing, but there's a little edge to it.

[178] A little pepper in the sauce.

[179] That's right.

[180] A little Carolina Reaper sneaks in.

[181] It's on the scovil scale.

[182] It gets high up on that scovol.

[183] in the millions.

[184] So, you know, Wena is going to have a shit day one day and let us even say it could even have been an interaction with someone in a certain sector of the economy.

[185] And now I'm really going out of the way.

[186] Oh, sure.

[187] But like if she had a bad hospitality experience, she might purposely fuck with a category that has to do with a hotel.

[188] Right.

[189] I mean, I know.

[190] That's a real stretch.

[191] Wow, that is a stretch.

[192] But she's just a human is all I'm saying.

[193] She's not AI.

[194] And I imagine her puzzles are going to reflect the mood she's in.

[195] Yeah, sometimes there's clues in those about current events.

[196] I'm like, ooh, I know who this is for.

[197] Oh, wonderful.

[198] We think that's happening too.

[199] Yeah, I'm certain of it.

[200] Not even in the answers, but in the presentation of the puzzle itself, I'm like, oh, this is a Right.

[201] She's just read all fours.

[202] Yep.

[203] Yeah.

[204] Yeah.

[205] Do you know about this book all four?

[206] I don't, but I said, yep, so quickly.

[207] How long have you been with your lover?

[208] Eight years.

[209] Eight years.

[210] That's a great stretch.

[211] You're not married, though.

[212] We're not married.

[213] Are you against the institution of marriage?

[214] A little bit.

[215] Yeah, I was too.

[216] I get that.

[217] Is she?

[218] Not entirely.

[219] Yeah.

[220] Will you please hit me with your philosophy?

[221] Because I had mine really fine -tuned when Chris and I were dating.

[222] I just...

[223] Would you feel safer if I went first?

[224] Yeah.

[225] I was like, I'm not religious.

[226] I question the institution's origins.

[227] I think it had a lot to do with weird capitalism.

[228] Ownership.

[229] Ownership and building of empires.

[230] The notion I would have to ask.

[231] ask my state or local government for permission to separate.

[232] Seems insane to me. Agreed.

[233] There's no law against having a baby with someone you love.

[234] I'm just not seeing any of the upside.

[235] And it all seems steeped in a bunch of traditions I don't even agree with.

[236] I agree entirely.

[237] And religious tradition.

[238] Business partnership, sure.

[239] But those partnerships shouldn't need to be binary by two.

[240] It doesn't need to be a binary.

[241] So I think we're on the same page.

[242] Also, I was like, I'll be with you for the rest of your life.

[243] That I'm in.

[244] And let's have children.

[245] And let's do the whole thing.

[246] Just don't want to go to the state of California and declare, hey, guys, sign off on us.

[247] And then if something goes sideways, you become a meth addict.

[248] I want to get the fuck out.

[249] Right.

[250] I'm going to hire some attorneys.

[251] People change.

[252] And I'm not saying this about my girlfriend at all.

[253] No, because she's not going to change at all.

[254] She's not going to change.

[255] She's stuck in her way.

[256] She's the rock and out.

[257] Exactly.

[258] But just the notion of it, I don't agree.

[259] Also, every time somebody pushes me to it, it makes me revert even further back.

[260] I'm like, I don't have to.

[261] I don't want to.

[262] Yes, yes, yes.

[263] I think there might be some more layers for you, too.

[264] There are.

[265] Understandably.

[266] But you know what happened is I was like, okay, you've made your court case.

[267] You won.

[268] She's accepted it.

[269] It's not your thing.

[270] Congrats.

[271] And then I was like, oh, but also I could give somebody something that's really important to them, despite the fact that it's not to me. and then very much talking out of school, but I don't think she would mind.

[272] She would say this.

[273] She almost died when I presented a ring, because she was accepted.

[274] That wasn't for me. Do that.

[275] Some issues were resolved in six seconds permanently.

[276] Interesting.

[277] For her, that did mean true security.

[278] And some jealousy that she used to have.

[279] I'm friends with all my ex -girlfriends.

[280] I believe that's also positive.

[281] That was always kind of an issue.

[282] And in a snap of the fingers, that was all gone.

[283] That's never been like that again.

[284] And so it was a weird leap of faith for me. and then the results were completely unexpected.

[285] And I was like, oh, wow, that actually made things much, much better.

[286] Yeah.

[287] That's my testimonial.

[288] Fair enough.

[289] But I'm with you on the logic of it.

[290] It's kind of out there.

[291] Just it's kind of out there.

[292] And then take my name.

[293] Then, you know, you don't have to take my name.

[294] And then, like, oh.

[295] Hyphenate my name.

[296] Hyphenate my name.

[297] And now I'm like, oh, why is mine?

[298] I'm not going to try and blast out my folks.

[299] Like, there's some stuff there that I'm like, uh, I don't.

[300] This, that.

[301] and the other.

[302] Sure, sure, sure, sure.

[303] Yeah, being married doesn't make a relationship innately better or worse.

[304] Well, and in fact, I'll even argue, so I was interviewing Goldie Hawn, and I said to her, do you think you and Kurt, had you gotten married, you might have gotten divorced?

[305] And she said, oh, several times.

[306] Like, the fact that they never got married is why they've been together for 30 years.

[307] Right.

[308] Because there's a freedom there.

[309] Yeah, I think a lot of people think of it as like this commitment, and it is a pain in the to get out of it, financially in all other ways, that'll be an incentive to work through your problems.

[310] But I would argue the opposite thing can happen as well, which is I don't think we can work through these.

[311] This is for the rest of my life.

[312] You're constantly going, this problem I'm in right now is for the rest of my life.

[313] And it takes on a weight.

[314] And you probably wouldn't bring up things.

[315] You're like, well, this is going to shatter my life.

[316] If I bring up this thing and it becomes a fight, I will then become financially.

[317] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[318] You might keep some stuff quiet and just deal.

[319] To that point of Goldie and Kurt, I think most people assumed that they were married.

[320] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[321] So most people assume that anybody in a relationship, for so long is married.

[322] Why do they have to be?

[323] Right.

[324] Well, and also you go around the world, and increasingly, a lot of countries I go do, people don't really do it.

[325] In New Zealand, everyone has partners.

[326] Almost no one's getting married.

[327] Yeah.

[328] Okay, well, we might have destroyed the institution.

[329] I think I fixed it.

[330] I think it fixed it.

[331] All fixed.

[332] Well, you just said one thing.

[333] Oh, yeah, so.

[334] You were going to tell a story about someone in Michigan that you didn't like.

[335] Oh, yes.

[336] Okay, but before that, my last thought of.

[337] the names and i don't want to hurt any guys feelings because i think it's super well -intentioned guys will take their wives names or they're hyphenated or whatever and i'm like guys that's not progress right the first thing was fucked up the answer isn't to double down on it map that out for three generations so your kid inherits his hyphenated name in three generations there's seven last names it just starts duplicating because you've got to take her two hyphenated names your two hyphenated names and then your kids two hyphenated names with their to the power of ten, it's more atoms than the universe.

[338] Yeah.

[339] So just think this through.

[340] Think about for the pens and like the ink of the world just to be writing down so many names.

[341] Data entry folks.

[342] How much space on your birth certificate or on your driver's license?

[343] How long will a passport be in five generations?

[344] You know, it'll be pages.

[345] Or super wide.

[346] In some other countries, they do have really long names.

[347] Like Anna has a really long name.

[348] Five or six names.

[349] I have a long name.

[350] So my full name is Samuel, Nana, Yao Wiafi.

[351] Guajani, William Oscar Richardson.

[352] Fucking nuts.

[353] That's a paragraph.

[354] Well, I love that.

[355] Well, I love how you say it.

[356] You're kind of like the newscaster when you say it.

[357] Oh, yeah.

[358] Because you say Sam in the very American English accent.

[359] Samuel, nah, yeah, we have to.

[360] William Oscar Richardson.

[361] You kind of have to.

[362] Exactly.

[363] Each one has to have its own.

[364] Okay, so the Michigander I met.

[365] So we know the famous Michiganders.

[366] We know them by heart.

[367] Yeah, we do.

[368] We got Bob Seeger.

[369] Yeah, Bob Seeger.

[370] The King of All Kings, Ted Nugent.

[371] Yep.

[372] We got two and two, the host of love connection.

[373] Oh, I actually saw him at a Coney Island wearing a camel hair full length.

[374] He looked gorgeous.

[375] Chuck Woolry?

[376] Chuck Woolry.

[377] There it is.

[378] I knew it was in there.

[379] We're going to skip all the Moton people because we don't have the time.

[380] Jeff Daniels.

[381] We love our Jeff Daniels.

[382] Yes, we sure do.

[383] M &M.

[384] Eminem.

[385] Kidd Rock.

[386] Mm -hmm.

[387] All right, so this group of people, who do you think I might have had a rough interaction?

[388] I know who I'm thinking of.

[389] By the way, this is before anyone was even outspokenly political.

[390] Yeah, before the budlights of it all.

[391] Yeah, oh, way before.

[392] This is a birthday party 15 years ago.

[393] Okay, so you got it.

[394] Michigan.

[395] We don't have that flag there.

[396] We left up the jewel of Detroit, Jack White.

[397] Oh, yeah.

[398] I introduced him at the train station reopening ceremony.

[399] Oh, my gosh.

[400] You were at that?

[401] I was at that.

[402] First time I came out, I introduced, like, a person.

[403] They were part of the history of Detroit.

[404] And then they had me come back out to introduce Jack White.

[405] And they sent me out.

[406] Oh, no. First, I came out to introduce...

[407] No, that's right.

[408] Sorry.

[409] I'm just remembering it.

[410] End time.

[411] This is me coming.

[412] I think you should leave.

[413] No, no. And then, no. But then, oh, yeah, no, yes.

[414] Because, yes.

[415] Definitive every time you think you got it.

[416] Oh, no, no. This is exactly what it was.

[417] But the producer says, all right, and go now.

[418] And I go out there, and I'm standing there.

[419] And Jack White's still going.

[420] Oh.

[421] And he's like, right, and I'm like, I'm just like standing out there in the middle of things.

[422] Like, what do you do that's cool in that situation?

[423] Tap you to like, like, rock your head, devil horns.

[424] I'm part of this too.

[425] Take your shirt off.

[426] Exactly.

[427] Just start doing push -ups.

[428] Oh, yeah.

[429] So you were more out there maybe to go and give it up for Jack what?

[430] Okay, it's not an introduction, whatever we would call.

[431] I was supposed to do both.

[432] Oh.

[433] So I'm like, ladies and gentlemen, Jack what?

[434] In fact, that's what it was.

[435] The guy and I come out and we introduce Jack White, and then I come back out again and I get to this video thing.

[436] Yeah, book -ending Jack White.

[437] Okay.

[438] And, man. Yeah, you can feel nice and awkward, huh?

[439] Boy, similarly, I brought out Nate Dogg and Warren G. Oh, yeah.

[440] In Anaheim at a concert.

[441] And I felt that similar, how do I play all this?

[442] You're right.

[443] What is my exact?

[444] And I swang for the fences.

[445] Oh, man. Sometimes you got to.

[446] Okay.

[447] Detroit, 1984.

[448] What's it called the something Edison district?

[449] Boston Edison.

[450] So I know this area well, because it's bordered by Woodward, yes?

[451] Yep.

[452] And so I constantly would be driving down Woodward to go downtown.

[453] Yeah, there's all these really cool old neighborhoods just to the west of Woodward.

[454] So many Boston City is where I grew up.

[455] So it's like the old historic homes.

[456] And they were built by these people in the early 1900s that had come to what was then Silicon Valley.

[457] And they were hugely successful.

[458] You had like Fisher Body family and all these suppliers.

[459] And they built these really cool, grandiose homes.

[460] But in 84, it's like four would be completely empty.

[461] Three would be working and great.

[462] It was a very unique scene now.

[463] So even by like 84, Boston Edison was pretty full, very well manicured and maintained.

[464] I think by 2000 something, houses start becoming a little bit more empty there.

[465] Because the houses are empty, they keep on getting broken into, people still in copper.

[466] out of the houses and all the plumbing.

[467] That's demoralizing when the copper is the most valuable thing.

[468] The easiest valuable thing that you can get in and get out.

[469] But like now recently, it's unreal.

[470] And I'll be the first to admit I was not optimistic.

[471] So I lived down at Griswold, right by Lafayette, Coney Island in 94.

[472] If that was not the nadir of it, it has to be approaching it.

[473] It was wild.

[474] When I left and moved to California in 95, I was like, thoughts and prayers.

[475] I don't know how this turns around.

[476] Yeah.

[477] And then I was back like three years ago.

[478] drove by the old place, it's fucking gorgeous as a farmer's market.

[479] I'm like, wow, I didn't see this coming.

[480] The idea of trying to just casually buy property in downtown Detroit, forget about it.

[481] It's so popular and they're spending so much on it.

[482] It looks so great.

[483] It's so, like, walkable.

[484] What are the dog whistle terms?

[485] So walkable, so safe.

[486] You know?

[487] They spell it with three Ws.

[488] Exactly.

[489] He's spelled walkable, W -H -A -L -K.

[490] Walkable, if you know what I mean.

[491] That's what I observed.

[492] I saw more white people at this farmer's market when I was there three years ago and then I had seen the entire time I lived in Detroit.

[493] I'm like, is there a festival?

[494] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[495] The Greeks are down here.

[496] The Greeks are down here.

[497] It used to be that this would happen during a Dave Matthews band concert when they would come to Comerica Park and then, please.

[498] Maybe stop at Lafayette, tear that place up.

[499] It plays up, really show up and show their asses.

[500] They'd get out there.

[501] Second City was downtown at the Hockey Town Cafe, right next to Fox, right across from America.

[502] We would be there all the time, so we'd be downtown all the time.

[503] Really, you would see people come in to come into the Fox or to Tiger's game, Joe Lewis for a hockey game, and then party.

[504] And then, like, as soon as those shows were done, traffic to get out of there.

[505] But now, there's so much to do.

[506] Plus, all the games are there just right on top of each other.

[507] Yep.

[508] And so it's just bustling wild.

[509] Yeah, yeah.

[510] Okay, you have had to talk about this so much, and I'm going to try to spare you repeating all the stuff.

[511] But certainly I need to know what it's like going to Ghana a lot when you're a kid.

[512] Your grandpa, he's a chief.

[513] He had some leverage and some status.

[514] I'm sorry.

[515] Can I back up?

[516] Yeah, for sure.

[517] When'd your mom get to Detroit?

[518] 77 is when she would have gotten to Detroit.

[519] Okay, and what age was she when she came?

[520] She'd have been 32?

[521] No, that's not right.

[522] 18, 49, 28.

[523] Okay, so.

[524] Is that right?

[525] Yeah, 49 to 77.

[526] Let me make sure it was 49.

[527] My mom just had her 70th.

[528] Oh, no, then she was born.

[529] No, that's 44.

[530] 54, 45.

[531] Now, my dad is 45.

[532] Wow, sir.

[533] You know what?

[534] I came out in the middle of Jack White, no, that I think about it.

[535] It came out in the middle.

[536] I was like, it's the middle of Jack White.

[537] And then, like, oh, no way.

[538] The Jack White was seven minutes.

[539] I came out three minutes and 20 minutes.

[540] 29 seconds.

[541] So that's not exactly in the middle, but it's pretty close as close as you could be, but including footsteps.

[542] I was certainly out there during the middle.

[543] Okay, so she came.

[544] But she was like, let's say early 30s.

[545] I'm just going to say 31.

[546] And what was her goal?

[547] My dad met my mom in Ghana.

[548] Oh, he did.

[549] And then brought her.

[550] What was he doing down there?

[551] Is he from Detroit?

[552] He's from Detroit.

[553] How many generations?

[554] 1920, I think, is when the Richardson's came from Alabama.

[555] Okay.

[556] So he's been there for three generations.

[557] What is he doing in Ghana?

[558] My dad worked for the Burger King Corporation.

[559] He helped open the first Burger King in Harlem in, like the early 70s, retired from Burger King, and then moved back to Detroit, bought a house.

[560] One day his phone rings.

[561] This is 1976.

[562] And he answers it, ladies, on the phone, is like, hey, is Barbara there?

[563] This is the number I have.

[564] Barber is supposed to pick me up from the airport.

[565] My dad's like, where from?

[566] He said, Africa.

[567] Africa!

[568] My dad starts talking this woman on the phone for like a half hour.

[569] And then finally he's like, you know what, I'm going to come pick you up.

[570] So he drives to the airport, picks this woman up from the airport.

[571] And on the way back, she's like, you've got to go to Africa.

[572] You got to go to Ghana.

[573] I'm just coming from there.

[574] It's great.

[575] When you go to Ghana, look for this man. His name is Mr. Riafi.

[576] He loves Americans.

[577] No. Is your grandpa.

[578] Check it out.

[579] Mm -hmm.

[580] Oh, my God.

[581] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[582] And really quick, I've got to contextualize all that.

[583] So he's retired, so he's feeling maybe adventurous or what's happening in the second stage of his life.

[584] So it's very impulsive.

[585] Present him.

[586] venture.

[587] He's like, yes, I will do this.

[588] Okay, great.

[589] So then, you know, he goes, travels all over West Africa, then finishes his trip in Ghana.

[590] Looks for this guy, Mr. Riafi.

[591] Everybody's like, like, oh, Wafi, eh, Wafi, big manu.

[592] So he finds this office building, talks to Secretary.

[593] I'm here to see Mr. Riafi.

[594] My name's Lamar Richardson.

[595] She's like, oh, okay, calls him up to say, oh, okay, he's excited to see you.

[596] He's been expecting to see you, but he's in the middle of a meeting.

[597] Once you, like, hang out and talk here with me for a little bit.

[598] Goes up to see Mr. Riafi.

[599] Oh, wow, I was so excited to see you.

[600] I love Americans.

[601] It's great, but I'm very busy.

[602] Why don't you come to my house for dinner.

[603] So he's like, yeah, sure, great.

[604] On his way out, he talks to the secretary in his way, and he's like, I'm only in town for like another week or so, but maybe we can grab dinner sometime.

[605] And she's like, okay.

[606] Oh, this is like a scene out of a movie.

[607] This is a meet you to the back.

[608] You know, it's very wild.

[609] Wow.

[610] And look who comes down for supper.

[611] Exactly.

[612] Come on.

[613] As his daughter, he didn't know.

[614] This is, uh...

[615] Spent the rest of their time in Ghana together.

[616] This is so storybook.

[617] It really is.

[618] And you're against marriage, after all.

[619] All that.

[620] How do you?

[621] Isn't that?

[622] Well, he'll never match it.

[623] Wow.

[624] Wow.

[625] So he goes to dinner at the house and then your mom's there and they fall in love.

[626] Your grandpa, is he signed off on this or is he a little bit like, hey, slow down fast westerner?

[627] Slow down, fast westerner, for sure.

[628] So then he goes back to him to Detroit, then they would rendezvous in London.

[629] You know, I should have to do stuff in London.

[630] And hang out.

[631] Hold on a second.

[632] I do have to say this is a very dangerous way to fall in love.

[633] Yes, it is.

[634] Very heightened.

[635] Very heightened.

[636] Very heightened.

[637] You're only meeting on vacation in a foreign city you both love.

[638] Yep.

[639] You met on a vacation.

[640] All your dating was on other.

[641] Every vacation is on a honeymoon.

[642] Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[643] So then he proposes and they go back to Detroit.

[644] And then my grandfather finds out everybody in my family in Detroit is like, okay, his rap is coming.

[645] So that everybody on my dad's side of the family gather at the house, you know, everybody's like dressed in their finest clothes.

[646] I have to point out the parallel.

[647] You must hate it.

[648] The movie.

[649] Yes.

[650] I remember when they had the family.

[651] apartment.

[652] Coming to America.

[653] I know.

[654] I'm sorry.

[655] It's very similar.

[656] But if I'll tell you, it's even more similar.

[657] He opens a McDowell's?

[658] I wish.

[659] Burger King.

[660] Okay, okay.

[661] I don't want to get that on myself.

[662] So everybody's there.

[663] Everybody's ready to really impress this man. He flies in.

[664] It's a stormy day, police escort.

[665] Where are they living at the time?

[666] They're living in Boston.

[667] This is at the Boston House.

[668] Oh, okay, okay, great.

[669] He comes in, meets everybody.

[670] Here's like a little story talks to everybody.

[671] And then they'd prepared him on a place day.

[672] He was like, all right, I must be off.

[673] I have business.

[674] And he leaves.

[675] He was there for a couple hours.

[676] Because he couldn't stay there, you know.

[677] Yeah, yeah.

[678] He had business at the Run and Sun Center.

[679] Exactly.

[680] He had to go watch a movie.

[681] Gotta stay somewhere.

[682] Star Wars just came out.

[683] I got to see that.

[684] Did they woo him?

[685] They wooed him.

[686] And my grandfather also loved Americans.

[687] So he was like excited anyway.

[688] Sure, sure, sure.

[689] He had an American son.

[690] He always called my dad of a Bushman.

[691] He always teased my dad.

[692] He loved to look at American culture.

[693] He liked blue jeans.

[694] Your father is at Bushman.

[695] I'm like, cool.

[696] I didn't know what I mean.

[697] Now, your mom, I'm presuming she left a pretty comfortable lifestyle.

[698] Yes.

[699] And she didn't move to Manhattan.

[700] Yeah, she moved to Detroit.

[701] Again, we just described at painful detail.

[702] Right.

[703] The scene in Detroit.

[704] Very stark difference from the Ghanaan lifestyle that she was living and used to.

[705] Because it's also Ghana and.

[706] London.

[707] She went to boarding school in London.

[708] My grandfather was like a member of parliament.

[709] Your dad must be very charismatic.

[710] Well, I mean, apple in the tree.

[711] And this is not too far.

[712] Not too far.

[713] But yes, he's one of the most charismatic man in the world.

[714] So wait, did grandpa then help dad buy a Burger King?

[715] Is that where you were going with that story?

[716] No, no. He had already done the Burger King.

[717] He retired from Burger King, but just the parallels.

[718] And then they opened a restaurant together?

[719] My mom and dad opened a restaurant together.

[720] Right.

[721] In downtown Detroit.

[722] It's called Gin Yami House Restaurant on Grashit.

[723] And you guys lived above it?

[724] Yeah, we had an apartment directly above it.

[725] I would have been three years old, but I just remember that restaurant so well.

[726] And I can remember watching old Superman videos, the Fischer Brothers Superman, and I would just, I don't know where we're going with this.

[727] Debate jumping out the second story window.

[728] I mean, kind of.

[729] Yeah, of course.

[730] All the void.

[731] All the void.

[732] And this is very nosy.

[733] But where does dad get the money to open up an outback?

[734] So the outback money comes from.

[735] a few places, but mostly my mom.

[736] And I think we kind of put everything that we had into that out back.

[737] What location was it?

[738] So we tried to open it in downtown for the longest time.

[739] Red tape couldn't do it.

[740] Found a site in Southfield open in like a few months.

[741] Yes, of course.

[742] Southfield loves business.

[743] Southfield loves business.

[744] Nine Mile in Greenfield.

[745] That's where my father was at, slinging those fords.

[746] I mean, virtually right there.

[747] Yeah.

[748] Okay.

[749] And then you went to U of D, and that's a Jesuit school.

[750] Yep.

[751] I didn't know that till today.

[752] I know you would be.

[753] They always have a good football team and good sports teams, but I didn't realize it was a Jesuit school.

[754] And we've interviewed a few people that went to Jesuit schools, and they really loved it.

[755] I really did.

[756] The approach to education was very real.

[757] Am I right to summarize that their approach is you are encouraged to challenge things?

[758] Yes.

[759] If I didn't understand how something worked, I could talk about it.

[760] But I was also a bad student.

[761] I think I'm pretty smart.

[762] I would agree so far.

[763] And lazy as well.

[764] So if I can figure something out I'll just figure it out and I can just kind of do that without paying attention but you can't do that for math unless you're a super genius and I am not so I wouldn't do my math homework oh what is this symbol yeah yeah yeah I'm like uh oh well I was super into math until you had to get that certain calculator like the trig calculator and I looked at all the buttons I was like get out of here this is ridiculous I can't learn hieroglyphics to continue on with this education I got overwhelmed graphic calculators oh man I got it got it It was like when they upgraded Nintendo and there was too many buttons on it and I was out.

[765] Yep, because that's the thing.

[766] If you don't steadily move along with video games, especially with Nintendo and then like how the third dimension was introduced to it and the joystick, all of a sudden you can control your view.

[767] And that was like something so new to video games to control and access of observation.

[768] Yeah, yeah.

[769] But now kids do that innately because that's how you learn video games.

[770] But there was a curve.

[771] You're like, okay, Nintendo 64.

[772] Ooh, what?

[773] Mario can turn his head around or you can make Link.

[774] move his head around and jump and see the sky, and I still game.

[775] So now I just do it because I can just know.

[776] And all the controls are the same before where it was, you know, up, down, left, right, ABBA, right?

[777] Yeah, Contra.

[778] Contra.

[779] Yeah.

[780] You know that one?

[781] No, that was before my time.

[782] Left right, left right.

[783] Up down, up down.

[784] ABBA, something.

[785] You gave you unlimited lives on Contra.

[786] It's a very famous code.

[787] It makes its way into movies a lot.

[788] Yes, it does.

[789] I always think I don't have children, but when everybody's like, I'll get that screen away from where they're on the iPad again.

[790] I'm like, yes, because that's how they're going to.

[791] to be able to know how to fly the flying cars.

[792] It's true.

[793] Because they can just do it.

[794] You're right.

[795] It is weird.

[796] It is the future.

[797] It's like, why would you take it?

[798] Although, I mean, there's a lot of stats that it's bad for their brain.

[799] It's definitely bad for them, but also you're preparing them to live, what, in the 80s?

[800] Exactly.

[801] Also give them a time machine.

[802] It's true.

[803] Everything is touchscreen.

[804] Chairs have touch screens on them.

[805] Yeah, when you go get a job, presumably, it's going to be doing that.

[806] Stay tuned for more of Firechair, Xxer.

[807] If you dare.

[808] Okay, so you like UD, what kind of kid are you at school?

[809] It's all boys, which was great because nobody was posturing or flexing.

[810] Yeah, we were all just like stinky boys hanging out.

[811] At least not in my experience.

[812] I was popular.

[813] That was funny.

[814] What are you going to do?

[815] You know?

[816] I was kind of like in a bunch of different groups.

[817] I would hang out with skaters with the theater kids.

[818] Base was the Black Achievement Society of Education.

[819] I wasn't a member of base because I didn't go to the meetings.

[820] But, you know, all that thing is like, you'd pale around with them.

[821] Lazy.

[822] You were in Blaze.

[823] You're the L for Lazy.

[824] The Lever Lazy.

[825] Exactly.

[826] But I think mostly theater.

[827] Was your sister's school, Mercy?

[828] Mercy, yeah.

[829] Oh, yeah, I did.

[830] Yeah, I went to their prom.

[831] Me too.

[832] Was it at the Gross Point?

[833] Yacht Club?

[834] Yeah.

[835] Yeah, same.

[836] Yes, it was.

[837] So I went to Mercy's prom.

[838] I went to Marion's prom, and I went to my prom, right?

[839] Did I go to another one?

[840] Three proms.

[841] How are you meeting girls, if it's an all?

[842] Through theater.

[843] And that's why I did theater.

[844] Okay.

[845] Was because I didn't know it was in a high boy school whenever I was doing it.

[846] My parents were moving to Ghana.

[847] I was supposed to move to London to go to boarding school.

[848] Oh, my Lord.

[849] And then last second, very impulsive parents, they were like, actually we're not.

[850] And I took the entrance exam to U .D. I went to a friend school, which is a small Quaker school that was in Detroit.

[851] My graduating class was like 15 kids.

[852] This is a very kaleidoscopic childhood.

[853] You're in gone in the summers.

[854] you're at a Quaker school for primary.

[855] You go to a Jesuit school.

[856] Very unique.

[857] But it doesn't seem like you suffer at all from, it's almost tangible when people feel perpetually lost in their identity or having never been an actual member of the group they were constantly in.

[858] You don't present that way, or do you have any of that?

[859] Like when you were in Ghana, were you the American?

[860] There was some of that, especially with my family.

[861] To my cousins in America, I was the Ghanaian kid.

[862] Right.

[863] To my Ghanaian cousins, I was the American.

[864] Axelful.

[865] Exactly, and I would laugh just like him.

[866] No, look, there's two different baseline of confidence.

[867] That can either make you feel very alienated, or it can make you feel exotic and interesting.

[868] And I think that's what it was.

[869] I have siblings, but half siblings.

[870] I'm my mom's only child, so I'm the only one who has this experience.

[871] I always kind of wish that I had grown up with, like, a twin, so that I can be like, are you experiencing this as well?

[872] Yes.

[873] A control group.

[874] Can we remember this?

[875] And then kind of check on each other when I say this?

[876] No, because you don't exist.

[877] I wish I'd journaled just for facts and just for objectivity.

[878] Yes.

[879] What was more fun, though?

[880] I didn't appreciate Ghana when I was a kid because I was like, oh, where's the Ninja Turtles, the new episodes of Saturday morning cartoons, but we were also living a very charmed life there.

[881] I also went to an international school in Ghana.

[882] So I went to a school with a bunch of Americans and British and French, who had probably had really interesting parents.

[883] They were doing wild and amazing things.

[884] My best friend, Parchant, his parents were from India.

[885] and they were there for the banks and my friend Alex was from Canada my friend Gert Gert Gert Jan Meyer Wow He's from Germany or something That would be my guess He was Dutch Dutch, okay It was truly a rainbow coalition Yeah And would you live at Grandpa's while you were there There was a few houses And so I would stay at my grandpa's house Sometimes however When I lived there to go to school For first and second grade As my grandfather was dying Oh no I would go back and forth But first and second grade We lived there Because he was passing And then he passed And so we were like there.

[886] Forgive my ignorance.

[887] Are they speaking English there?

[888] English is the national language in Ghana.

[889] There was one year, all of my cousins, we just spoke English.

[890] One year I was going back.

[891] And all of a sudden, everybody speaks toui.

[892] Chui is like our family language.

[893] Original.

[894] And I'm like, wait.

[895] Oh, no. Oh, boy.

[896] I'm this straight up the American now.

[897] You know?

[898] Yeah.

[899] It just switched it on you.

[900] It's like one day.

[901] Like, how did you like, did you guys download it just over a night?

[902] Hell.

[903] You know, I didn't pay for the upgrade.

[904] It's like a little outside.

[905] And at the same time, missing the.

[906] Those summers in Detroit, from the little outside.

[907] They got, like, inside jokes that I don't have.

[908] Everyone went to Cedar Point.

[909] And having a little bit of a accent, I don't sound exactly like my cousins do, either side.

[910] I guess you get to decide that's rad about me or I feel other all the time.

[911] Yeah.

[912] I just always had, like, a confidence.

[913] I took that as not like a, oh, no, but I was like going, oh, well, I'm interesting to you.

[914] You know, exactly.

[915] Being an only child, I make friends really quick and easy because I am.

[916] interested and I'm curious and also I could bring my curiosities to new things and people I want to connect yeah you're dying for a sibling exactly did you get to do any of the fun Michigan outdoorsy stuff oh yes you've gone to the lakes we had a cottage I've never went to Macanah Island right now it's just been hitting me we're at the dog days of summer I'm like I have not been on a lake in Michigan this summer and I got to get there I feel amoral if I don't we had the cottage up north from Michigan you know up north just means north of Detroit and everybody goes up north anything north of Flint is like up north I haven't been in so long I used to love it with fish we used to hunt and we used to just do country shit That's where you feel the Ted Nugent come out Exactly He's like a lemuron out there He kind of just floats around and if you catch him You get money.

[917] You know he lived in the town next to mine and occasionally there'd be spottings of Ted Nugent because he had a bronco that was completely zebra stripe He'd drive through our town sometimes and people were like Ted Nugent driving a zebra Bronco through town Zebra native to Northern Michigan.

[918] Okay, so you ended up going to Wayne State.

[919] Did you stay?

[920] I did not graduate from my state.

[921] Because when you get out, you know immediately you're going to do comedy.

[922] They opened that Second City up.

[923] I don't know what year that would have been, but probably right when I was in high school.

[924] Yeah.

[925] Being in theater, my friend Pete J. Cokes, who was a senior when I was a freshman, was taking classes at Second City.

[926] And so I went to see his class show when I was 14.

[927] But I knew Second City because I had always been a fan of comedy, SNL, SETV.

[928] of course.

[929] So I knew everything about comedy.

[930] I was like, wait, Second City is in Detroit?

[931] Yes.

[932] So I went to see that show and I'm like, and so I started taking classes when I was like 15 at Second City of Detroit.

[933] So by the time you graduate high school, are you already on stage there?

[934] By 20, I'm performing.

[935] For people who don't know improv, that's very rare.

[936] Most of the time you're starting at that age or later.

[937] Yeah, you're approaching some of these records.

[938] I forget what age Eddie Murphy was on S &O.

[939] I think it was like 19.

[940] I'm like getting reps. I'm not in the Second City cast, but I'm not in the Second City cast, but I'm performing shows there.

[941] I'm performing shows at Planet Ant Theater and Amtramic while I'm trying to get my theater degree.

[942] But then it just became so hard.

[943] I was being punished for doing both.

[944] And finally, I was doing a comedia show at the Planet Ant Theater that we'd written and we were rehearsing and then like we finally performed it.

[945] And I was late because I was getting lectured by my professor about doing more things.

[946] But I told my dean that I was doing more things.

[947] I was like, is it okay?

[948] And he was like, great opportunities.

[949] But this professor was like not having it.

[950] Every time he went to humiliate me in front of the class, he'd stop me. kind of just lecture me. I'm like, look, I'm working.

[951] I came here to try and do both, but finally, she's like, I don't think you need it.

[952] Having never met the person, I hate to guess this, but maybe probably threatened that you were talented, maybe going somewhere.

[953] I think so.

[954] We just had Kirby on, formerly Kirby, Howell, Batiste, but now just Kirby.

[955] But she went to acting school in London.

[956] She had a very similar experience.

[957] And I said, was the subtext you should be so grateful to be here?

[958] Very much.

[959] Finally, I was like, you know what?

[960] I'm not coming back.

[961] And then I just kept floating through Second City in Detroit.

[962] When do you meet Tim Robinson?

[963] So I met Tim Robinson early on into this.

[964] And I got in his class when I was 18.

[965] Oh, no kidding.

[966] You started as student teacher?

[967] Started as student teacher.

[968] I was 18.

[969] He was 21.

[970] Okay, so he was incredibly young as well going through this.

[971] Fast friends, thick as thieves.

[972] He would sneak me into bars, you know?

[973] Not hard in Detroit.

[974] Method was easy.

[975] Get snuck in, grab a beer, come out and talk to the bouncer a lot.

[976] Get to none, put it with a beer in my hand.

[977] So you're like, eh, So now you identify me. I was in a regular bar called Seven Brothers.

[978] You should have known that I was 18 years old because I would always be like, hey, can I have a white Russian, please?

[979] Oh, nice.

[980] I'm exclusively drinking white Russians like I'm the dude.

[981] It's because it's like an ice cream.

[982] So I'm just like, can you please give me the sweetest, nice thing?

[983] This dive bar in Ham Tramming and they would have to go get cream so that I could have my new thing because it was there so much that they were like, well, we've got to have our cream since Sam can have his white Russians, this teen.

[984] The owner of his name was George Spentowski.

[985] He just died recently because he was like my story grandfather essentially because I was like there's so much we would always hang out He was a Macedonian man who also had like a thousand lives but he owned this bar So then I had my 21st birthday At Seven Brothers And George is like Happy birthday Sam How old are you?

[986] Oh no I'm 21 George He's like you're like you son I'm a bitch He didn't talk to me for like six months Because he was so mad Disappointed in his grandson Exactly You end up going to Chicago, though, as well, right?

[987] Yes, I got hired to working a second city cruise ship.

[988] And is that a blast?

[989] It was a blast, because I was like 22, I think it turned 23 on this ship.

[990] What route were you on?

[991] The Caribbean, so we were going to Barbados, Samana, Casimel, St. Lucia.

[992] How were you not showing back up on the boat hammered for the show, or are you?

[993] We only had show one night.

[994] Seven day cruise, we had our show on like Wednesday, a 7 o 'clock and a 9 o 'clock show of Best Up Second City.

[995] And then we do two shows on Sunday, an 8 o 'clock improv show and then like a 10 o 'clock adults improv show.

[996] Oh my Lord.

[997] So I'm working for five hours at the most, including like a workshop.

[998] And then I'm on vacation.

[999] I'm living on vacation.

[1000] You could probably get trapped in that.

[1001] Oh, my goodness.

[1002] I felt myself atrophying also.

[1003] I'm 22, mind you.

[1004] Oh, boy.

[1005] The buffets.

[1006] The buffets.

[1007] If you want to get nasty, you'd spend $20 and then you go to steakhouse is all you could eat.

[1008] Oh, baby.

[1009] $15 for the sushi bar.

[1010] $25 for the French restaurant This is not an exaggeration I went one time with my ex -girlfriend Brie on a family trip And I weighed myself at the hotel in Orlando And I was 185 And then when I got off the boat I weighed myself and I was 198 13 pounds in a week That's a small dog Yeah if I had stayed on that boat For another few months I would have come off on a wheelchair My first cast I did two tours I did two tours I did two tours and dude exactly Both five months long With a month in between Five months of vacation Five months vacation.

[1011] I had a nickname.

[1012] They called me Colossal Sam because I could just sit down and I could eat.

[1013] I'll be like, oh, I'll make you pay for $20 for the steakhouse, you fools.

[1014] I'll make you rue the day.

[1015] The chef will be crying when I leave.

[1016] It'll be like, please stop.

[1017] This was the food for the week.

[1018] I had the same commitment every time I went to sizzling.

[1019] Unlimited chicken wings, we'll see.

[1020] We'll see how much oil you have back there.

[1021] What's the policy on banging the gas, the other passengers?

[1022] So you weren't supposed to.

[1023] Of course.

[1024] passengers who had crew status.

[1025] Once again, you're in another world of identity.

[1026] You're not crew, you're not a passenger.

[1027] Then I'm like, so young it would be college time.

[1028] It's supposed to be at a kegger, but my kegher is at sea.

[1029] Just free time.

[1030] All of us so young and had young bodies and young excitement.

[1031] There's dancers on the cruise.

[1032] Oh, yeah.

[1033] They become friends with.

[1034] The bar staff.

[1035] The bar staff, exactly.

[1036] The guy, the DJ.

[1037] The crew staff.

[1038] Exactly.

[1039] All this.

[1040] And they call it ship life, as in like, what happens on the ship, stays on the shade.

[1041] Some shady stuff happening also, people who were like, you're behaving like you don't have a home life.

[1042] Ooh, that's hard.

[1043] Because when you're at sea, you're not on earth.

[1044] What a wild experience.

[1045] It really was.

[1046] So I did a five -month contract.

[1047] And while I was on that first contract, I was to see Detroit closed.

[1048] I closed and I didn't save any money because I was living like I was on vacation.

[1049] I was making the most money had ever made like $1 ,000 a week.

[1050] And I was like, I'm rich.

[1051] Yes.

[1052] And I'm spending money in Barbados.

[1053] I'm spending money in, you know?

[1054] Are you gambling at all?

[1055] We're not allowed to gamble, which I'm lying, because I would gamble when we go to, like, NASA.

[1056] That's what I'm thinking, when you get to shore.

[1057] Going to the Atlantis and let it rip.

[1058] Specifically the Atlantis.

[1059] One time I was playing three -card poker at the Atlanta, and the worst thing ever happened to me. I was sitting one seat from the left, so I was like second seat.

[1060] I am playing three -card poker.

[1061] The guy to my right stands up, and the guy sits down to my left.

[1062] The next hand, the guy gets a royal flush.

[1063] And I'm like, that was my hand.

[1064] Oh, that was my hand.

[1065] Oh, man. That'll destroy you.

[1066] I think about it every day.

[1067] I have a very similar situation.

[1068] I'm more culpable in that fault.

[1069] It was like, punk had just come out.

[1070] I'm starting to get these weird offers to go do things.

[1071] So one is like, do you want to come announce something for Nokia at the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans on your birthday?

[1072] You can bring friends.

[1073] It's my birthday going to this casino.

[1074] And I'm playing video poker.

[1075] And it deals me a royal fly.

[1076] And I just stare at it and stare at it and stare at it.

[1077] And then I say to Aaron who's there with me, I'm like, look at this.

[1078] And we don't know what to do.

[1079] We don't know why it's not paying out.

[1080] Right.

[1081] And we stared at it for so long and eventually he's like, I don't know if I say or he's having like, am I supposed to just hit the cash out or whatever?

[1082] What I was supposed to do is save each one.

[1083] Yep.

[1084] Because that's what you do in video poker.

[1085] Oh, no. Can you believe that?

[1086] Oh, no. So I hit a button and it just went away.

[1087] How about this three of clubs and this five a dime?

[1088] Oh, my God.

[1089] I think about that very regularly.

[1090] I would have won $1 ,200.

[1091] You didn't feel like asking someone?

[1092] Well, we stared at it for so long and we're like, why isn't it just like, why aren't bells and whistles going on?

[1093] You're like, oh, it must be something simple.

[1094] Let me just push this button and then it just wrote.

[1095] Oh, man, that hurts.

[1096] See, mine's the words because I have some definite personal responsibility.

[1097] You got box.

[1098] It happened to me. I was doing everything right.

[1099] And then just like the table at the shutdown, they got a pit boss in there.

[1100] And I'm like, show that on the camera, show that.

[1101] him getting up and showing him sitting down.

[1102] This is my hand.

[1103] Oh, no. I'd been sitting at that table for like 45 minutes.

[1104] I think it was like $10 ,000 this guy won.

[1105] I'm so mad still.

[1106] I would have spent all that on booze in Barbados.

[1107] Yeah, you would have lost nine grand of it in the next hour.

[1108] Yeah, for real.

[1109] I can't lose.

[1110] Got a hot hand.

[1111] Got a hot hand, folks.

[1112] What's the lowest odds thing in this casino?

[1113] I'm going hard at it.

[1114] So I would have gotten this moment.

[1115] You got to get out of here and you got to, fucking get going.

[1116] Yes, because I felt myself atrophying.

[1117] They enjoyed it a whole lot, but the whole time I was like, I got him with the L .A. Even the improv, it became kind of repetitive.

[1118] Everybody learned some tricks, and I was trying really hard to not do the tricks, but then, like, everybody wanted to do the tricks.

[1119] It was like, it's easy.

[1120] And you know, the show will be great.

[1121] They're not a comedy crowd.

[1122] They're checking out this thing for the first time.

[1123] It would drive me nuts.

[1124] Because, like, we were sketched, and then they had windows of improv.

[1125] But then in those improv windows, if there was a suggestion that was similar, and I would improvise something at the 7 o 'clock.

[1126] At 9 o 'clock, they would try to, like, bring it back.

[1127] I'm like, no, No, no, we did that already.

[1128] Yeah.

[1129] So I was really excited to get up.

[1130] Then they hired me to the touring company to Second City.

[1131] So then after that second ship, I moved to Chicago.

[1132] After two years of that, got hired for the main stage, wrote two shows on the main stage.

[1133] Tim and I got hired the same day.

[1134] So we got to, like, write these shows and perform these shows together.

[1135] Awesome.

[1136] Every day, eight shows a week, six days a week.

[1137] We'd go out and drink every night, six nights a week.

[1138] And then on Mondays was our off day.

[1139] So then we'd just hang out at a different bar.

[1140] Yeah, start earlier.

[1141] Start earlier.

[1142] Exactly.

[1143] Oh, I love it.

[1144] Wild.

[1145] Oh, what a time.

[1146] So what age do you get?

[1147] to L .A. And are you afraid to leave there because life's good?

[1148] I was ready to go.

[1149] We ran those shows for a year.

[1150] You're doing the exact same show, six days a week, eight times a week.

[1151] It's the point where you're on autopilot.

[1152] Just kind of thinking about my day while I'm like saying comedy lines.

[1153] It got to the point where if you thought about what you're saying, you'd mess up.

[1154] You know?

[1155] Right.

[1156] If not that, then we're trying to fuck with each other.

[1157] And then Tim had left and I was like, I'm also going to, because I auditioned for SNL twice.

[1158] I did two screen tests.

[1159] I got the point.

[1160] I was like, I was super nervous the first time.

[1161] I didn't know what to expect.

[1162] second time.

[1163] I was like, oh, okay.

[1164] But I was going to write a third show only because I was like trying to audition again.

[1165] I was like, oh, well, I don't want to do that to my experience at Second City or to my cast is to be here to write audition material.

[1166] I'm going to leave.

[1167] My time is done.

[1168] Had Tim gone to SNL?

[1169] Tim hadn't gone to SNL.

[1170] He just left.

[1171] He was still in Chicago.

[1172] He just left the main stage.

[1173] So then I moved to L .A., February of 2012.

[1174] I'm 28.

[1175] How quickly from when you get here, do you have an agent and you get these six episodes of the office?

[1176] I went there with an agent and managers because of SNL.

[1177] Oh, okay.

[1178] Allison Jones had come to see my show in Chicago.

[1179] And she's a casting director?

[1180] She's casting director.

[1181] One of the biggest ones.

[1182] She cast the office.

[1183] She casts so much.

[1184] So I went in to meet her and she was like, I will get you working.

[1185] Just come out here.

[1186] So I'm like, oh, okay.

[1187] And I'd been so close on things as well where I would send in tapes from Chicago.

[1188] I'd get call back and call back and call back where I'd partially improvising and I'd see the sides.

[1189] And these sides had my improv in them.

[1190] And then they would go with local hire So then my people were just like All right, it's time to move And so I moved And then Allison Jones gets me on the office And then Allison Jones also cast Arrest Development, the episode of Arrest Development But then she also cast Veep She really is the greatest She's the greatest Because you're naming the very best Commuter cast ever assembled When you walk into the office And it's the last season They know each other like their siblings Are you intimidated?

[1191] Are you comfy there?

[1192] I'm learning there.

[1193] I'm intimidated a little bit, but I'm also just very excited.

[1194] I'm taking pictures of myself in the makeup chair.

[1195] The part was supposed to be a little bit bigger than it was.

[1196] I was supposed to come in as Jim's college roommate.

[1197] We start a sports management company together in Philadelphia.

[1198] Also, like, it's the last season.

[1199] You're going to introduce a new character.

[1200] Right, lay a lot on track.

[1201] The whole time I'm learning so much about how takes work, where to sit for a camera.

[1202] The thing you just said about the auditions, I auditioned for commercials for eight years.

[1203] years and I never got them but I on several occasions saw the commercial on TV and it had an improv I had done in the thing that was really specific right yeah like oh man you didn't hire me but I'm like huh I took that thing okay I wish I'd check for writing then or something I'm freaking starving and you don't have what you want so you're very bitter about it yeah the greatest advice I was ever given to me at the groundlings is I had done a sketch and then it was very very identically done shortly thereafter on Sarah ain't live and it was a very unique thing and I was really wound up about it maybe it was in my mind but this person and said to me, if you think that's your last great idea, you should get a lawyer and sue and go all the way to the mat.

[1204] But if you think you have infinite great ideas, keep rolling.

[1205] A hundred percent.

[1206] That's great advice to give.

[1207] But if you had done it, you're like, I got to get a lawyer.

[1208] Okay, great.

[1209] Do you have a suggestion of one?

[1210] No great counsel?

[1211] My character's name is Anchorman.

[1212] Wait, two minutes on Allison Jens, I just have to do this.

[1213] Before I moved out here, I like to learn absolutely everything about everything.

[1214] She was a celebrity to me, knowing what she cast, all the Apatown movies, all these shows that I was obsessed with.

[1215] When I got to audition for her, I was like, I made it.

[1216] I don't even have to book it.

[1217] She's like a king and queenmaker.

[1218] Yeah.

[1219] And she's so nice.

[1220] So nice.

[1221] Which is so strange.

[1222] She has the right to be mean or scary.

[1223] Like catty and just like little, exactly.

[1224] There was a, I mean, talk to ill of someone, but I can't.

[1225] I can't remember the name specifically.

[1226] I auditioned for the CBS Showcase.

[1227] I was to be in it, and then the lady who was running it was so rude.

[1228] And I was like, I'm not coming back, and I didn't.

[1229] I'm excited to make it and I have these opportunities, but I don't want to sacrifice who you are.

[1230] Who I am.

[1231] I'm so fresh.

[1232] I'm not immediately going to start casting aside the things I think make me. Yes.

[1233] You had some conviction.

[1234] Well, that's the advantage of having established yourself very young comedically.

[1235] And you had a point of view when you arrived here.

[1236] It almost sounds like you had some wherewithal to say, I want this to be a certain experience, regardless of the outcome.

[1237] I really did.

[1238] And I still do this.

[1239] I have, like, a vision of what I want out of the world or out of my career.

[1240] And I try to do things that match that.

[1241] And I try and avoid things that don't.

[1242] Sometimes I can't help but play Monday morning quarterback doesn't even work anymore because they have Monday night football.

[1243] A Tuesday morning quarterback.

[1244] And I'm like, I should have done that movie.

[1245] I didn't do it if I felt it was going to be the exact same thing I've done before, or if I thought that it was going to paint a picture of me in an, audience is mine that I couldn't recover from, typecast me. When I'm at home, I'm like, oh, I've got three weeks off.

[1246] I'm like, I shouldn't have three weeks off.

[1247] I want to be on a movie right now.

[1248] I have to fight that.

[1249] I also just always want to be doing it because it's what I love.

[1250] So I have to kind of fight the regrets of my convictions.

[1251] What's the biggest one you have?

[1252] Recently, it was a movie.

[1253] I don't want to say specifically, Wolverine.

[1254] I didn't want to say it.

[1255] Yeah, $200 million opening.

[1256] 200 mil Offered me three points.

[1257] I said, I need four and a half.

[1258] or it's a non -negotiable.

[1259] You know this Matt Damon story.

[1260] I was just about to say.

[1261] You know the Matt Damon story?

[1262] He turned down Avatar and he was offered, I think, 5 % of it was something huge.

[1263] Oh, my God.

[1264] Hundreds of millions of the franchise.

[1265] Yes.

[1266] Disney isn't half a 5 % of the franchise.

[1267] Of like all the movies that were to come.

[1268] Oh my God.

[1269] Incredible, right?

[1270] Luckily, he made his own hundreds of millions, but still, wow, what a thing.

[1271] Because it wasn't really a script or anything at first.

[1272] And so he was like, Ah, no. And I think he had something else that also was going to happen.

[1273] But yes, that was a biggie.

[1274] Oh, my Lord.

[1275] Okay, so Veep, for me, is when I discover you personally.

[1276] Back to your compliment of Allison.

[1277] It's probably the best cast of a TV show ever.

[1278] Outside of myself, I agree.

[1279] Every person that pops up is a comedy 10.

[1280] And everybody plays in tandem so well.

[1281] It was such a lightning in a bottle, perfectly steered ship.

[1282] I learned so much on the set of Veep.

[1283] also about how to behave on set you know you kind of like watch how Julia moves and you watch how Tony moves and everybody respects each other and everybody like really loves each other and then when it comes to comedy everybody's flowing so when I got cast it was supposed to be for one episode and I remember I get to the table read and I was like okay well I'm gonna really have to steal myself for when I do these lines and like everybody just kind of pushes through it I remember I read my first line and I got a laugh and they laughed like legitimately and I was like whoa so giving I was invigorated And then to find out that after that, the process was that they put the scripts aside, and then you go and you re -improvise them in, like, the next room where the writer's writing.

[1284] Oh, really?

[1285] And I'm like, oh, this is Second City.

[1286] This is my skill set.

[1287] And so I was able to do that.

[1288] And then on the day, you get the script and the bits of the improvs in there.

[1289] And I'm like, I'm valued.

[1290] Yeah.

[1291] It was so much fun.

[1292] That's as good as it gets as an actor.

[1293] You guys shot that in D .C.?

[1294] Shot that in Baltimore.

[1295] Oh, in Baltimore.

[1296] I joined season three.

[1297] So seasons one through four were in Baltimore.

[1298] and then it moved to L .A. for a 5 -3 -7.

[1299] Were you sad when it was over, or you had popped, and you really had some opportunities coming off of that.

[1300] So were you anxious to get to those opportunities?

[1301] I would have done Veepe for the rest of your life.

[1302] I love that show so much.

[1303] I thought we were going to do eight.

[1304] The world made it kind of hard to make a show that Lampoons when politics is like stranger than fiction.

[1305] Anything you could write.

[1306] There would be things in an episode.

[1307] We'd have filmed six months ago, and it happens.

[1308] Real life.

[1309] A month before the show comes.

[1310] out.

[1311] And they're like, oh, did you write this because of this?

[1312] It's like, no. Also, it became a little more stressful to watch the show.

[1313] Yes.

[1314] Because it was like, this is real now.

[1315] It's not as funny because it's happening.

[1316] And idiocacy had almost the opposite trajectory, which was like it was too fucking absurd for people to even wrap their head around.

[1317] Then more and more was like, oh, wow, this isn't that absurd.

[1318] Okay, so after that you get to do, or during that, really, that's very cool that they allowed you to be a cast member full -time.

[1319] and do Detroiters.

[1320] It worked out very well because our writer's room for Detroiters was on the Paramount lot, and that's where we shot V. So I was able to, in between scenes, go sit in the room, so it kind of worked out perfectly.

[1321] Okay, I think I was turned on to Detroiters because of the Dietrich Fur's commercial.

[1322] Yeah.

[1323] And I'm going to try not to make this too esoteric, Monica.

[1324] I'm going to try.

[1325] And I don't know if this is unique to Detroit.

[1326] It can't be.

[1327] You can answer me for Atlanta.

[1328] We had so many local commercials.

[1329] and they're such a part of Detroit.

[1330] I was at a blackjack table in Laughlin, Nevada, 20 years ago, and a guy sitting next to me says he's from Detroit, and I said, me and dog are going down to Telegraph Road right now, get a good deal.

[1331] And he immediately started singing, Matt.

[1332] Here, dog, come on, dog.

[1333] Come on, dog.

[1334] And then Mel, For far, super star, for a far better deal.

[1335] Fantastic.

[1336] I feel like it was a golden era of local TV spots.

[1337] It really was.

[1338] And we already talked about it, but they ran for my entire childhood.

[1339] Always.

[1340] The Dietrich for commercial, Monica, was a woman riding a horse in a fur coat.

[1341] And probably nothing else.

[1342] A probably nothing else.

[1343] Oh.

[1344] But they left out for the imagination.

[1345] Yeah.

[1346] But she didn't have, like, pants on.

[1347] And she's, like, riding.

[1348] And it's like a kind of slow motion.

[1349] And it's like this person singing.

[1350] Oh, Dietrich Furs.

[1351] Oh, wow, very thoughtful.

[1352] Yeah, what's the end of that song?

[1353] Ooh, Dietrich Furs from the Dietrich family.

[1354] Yes.

[1355] And then you guys really lean in.

[1356] It was like, ooh, Devereux.

[1357] We may have Devereux Wigs.

[1358] Devereux.

[1359] Which, again, too, if you were in Detroit in the 90s, four out of every five storefronts was a wig shop.

[1360] More wigs per capita, probably the any place on the plane now.

[1361] That commercial, the grain of that thing, it was from like 1972.

[1362] Yeah, it was wearing out real time.

[1363] Like, when I saw it when I was six versus 14, the film was degrading.

[1364] Yeah, it got it harder and harder to see on TV.

[1365] I've been asking many, many years.

[1366] Dietrich fur is, was like 1930.

[1367] Oh, my God.

[1368] Like a beaver trading company from the turn of the century.

[1369] And in an era where the fur was really going.

[1370] out of style.

[1371] Becoming less.

[1372] Double down on it.

[1373] That woman you see very aspirational on the horse.

[1374] Oh, my God.

[1375] Just one last one I wanted to know if you had seen as a kid a bunch.

[1376] We build them big.

[1377] We build them small.

[1378] We're father and son.

[1379] No job too big.

[1380] No job too small.

[1381] No job too big.

[1382] No job too small.

[1383] We're a father and son.

[1384] We'll do it all.

[1385] Wow.

[1386] And that one is a car.

[1387] We'll get it done for any problem.

[1388] You need done.

[1389] No job, too big, no job, too small.

[1390] We're father and son.

[1391] Give us a call.

[1392] Boom!

[1393] Wow.

[1394] And that one was a cartoon, and it had like two lumberjack builders.

[1395] And they put pieces of a house together.

[1396] And they built it.

[1397] Oh, yeah.

[1398] God, it makes me feel so safe.

[1399] I loved it.

[1400] I loved it so much.

[1401] Well, you passed the test.

[1402] You remembered the words really good.

[1403] Oh, yeah.

[1404] But yeah, you ever meet someone from Detroit, you just yell, hey dog, and you're going to get the rest.

[1405] Come on, dog.

[1406] Me and dog.

[1407] Me and dog, we're going to telegraph road.

[1408] right now get a good deal so the Detroiters was just you guys doing that doing local ads so good actually in order so I saw you in Veep loved that and then I started watching of course I think you should leave it's just the very best it's the very very best I also love Tim and Eric so much but somewhere on the spectrum between Tim and Eric and Sir Ant Live Tim and Eric are big influences on us we were so into Tim and Eric and are so into Tim and Eric That DNA you can see it They were somehow part Heideker is in I think you should live And then there's a lot of nods There's an Odenkirk scene where he's telling the kid about his cars His cars Yeah there's a lot of nods to all the institutions That came before You can tell there's a lot of respect for comedy in it Yeah But yeah you hosting the little Buff Boys competition I think it's about as good as it possibly gets Gotta come up Gotta come up When the boss comes up Come on, look these little boys These little bodies So many of those sketches Especially my sketches Are like 13 minutes long Sure, sure And it gets edited down to like Three minutes Yeah I'm really really envious of you And Tim because to me It feels like me and my best friend Aaron Weekly But he didn't go into show business But like if we're together Within 45 seconds We have some joke that's annoying Everybody in the room And it's so weirdly esoteric.

[1409] We have such a specific sense of humor.

[1410] It's maddening to everyone else.

[1411] And I'm like, oh, yeah, you got to do that professionally.

[1412] Professionally.

[1413] Exactly.

[1414] We have to do that on the stage of Second City.

[1415] We have to do that every night.

[1416] Yeah, man, that's hitting the lottery right there.

[1417] So Ted Lassow comes along.

[1418] Also, I got to throw in the after party.

[1419] I say this about you all the time.

[1420] And this is nothing away from anyone else.

[1421] You're always the best thing in anything I see.

[1422] You're always the best thing in.

[1423] Everything we watch that you're in, we come, and we agree.

[1424] And in an impossible.

[1425] situations.

[1426] You're always surrounded by incredible people, too.

[1427] Yeah, Tiffany Haddish and Mike Berenholtz in the after party.

[1428] Stay tuned for more firearm share expert, if you dare.

[1429] So Ted Lassow, how did that come about?

[1430] And that ends up getting you nominated twice for Emmys and then winning one.

[1431] So Joe Kelly co -created Detroiters with me and Tim and Zach Cannon.

[1432] And Jason Sadecas was an executive producer of Detroiters.

[1433] Oh, he was.

[1434] Yeah.

[1435] Oh, I didn't know that.

[1436] In fact, Jason was like, you and Tim need to do a show.

[1437] And had Tim met him at SNL?

[1438] So we met him because he would come through Second City.

[1439] He's a Second City alumni.

[1440] So he would come and play the sets.

[1441] And we would improvise with him.

[1442] So then when Tim went to SNL, that's how Tim met Joe.

[1443] And I had met Joe when I came out to L .A. Joe and Jason worked together at Second City, Las Vegas.

[1444] The camp was made that way.

[1445] So when we made Detroiters, it was Tim and Zach.

[1446] who they become writing partners at S &L and Joe, who was also at S &L at that time and me. So it's got to be a show about the two of them.

[1447] And we're like, it's got to be about Detroit.

[1448] So you make this show.

[1449] So years later, Joe co -creates Ted Lassow with Jason and Bill and Brendan Hunt.

[1450] I didn't know Bill at that time.

[1451] Well, actually.

[1452] And we're saying Bill Lawrence.

[1453] Bill was a fan of Veep, kind of a little bit of follow.

[1454] Yeah, he's good at DM and people.

[1455] For me, I'm like, oh, my goodness.

[1456] That's a wild.

[1457] Scrubs is like my all times.

[1458] I remember watching Ted Lassow the first season because it was mid -pandemic and I was like, I got to see my homie's show and I'm watching it and I'm like, this is so wonderful.

[1459] And then I'm like, what can this character Samo Vasenna text Joe?

[1460] I'm like, is Sam me?

[1461] And he's like, of course, buddy.

[1462] Oh, wow.

[1463] So they planted the seed before they hired you.

[1464] Or and Jason was always like, oh, wouldn't you do something Ghana?

[1465] I'm like, yeah, I'll find the thing.

[1466] They sent the character and it's like written for me, which is also something that was different than anything I'd done before, accent excluded.

[1467] He was able to be charming and then like mean.

[1468] And you have all the status and highest status.

[1469] Not give handshakes.

[1470] And it was like, oh, but it's all in charm.

[1471] But playing with that status the whole time.

[1472] Very aware of it, but I'm like trying to act like it's not a thing.

[1473] I love it.

[1474] And the accent, you must have grown up imitating mom.

[1475] Yeah, exactly.

[1476] All my Ghana and family.

[1477] And what I was trying to do with that accent, even people I know in Ghana who are like very wealthy and England educated to have that sort of English.

[1478] accent on the Ghanaian accent, just also trying to be somebody.

[1479] So that was like a fun layer to get to put on top of that.

[1480] By the way, when you were younger and you were in Ghana, would you affect that accent a bit more while you were there?

[1481] That's how you hear everything.

[1482] Or even just like words that aren't the same.

[1483] So instead of saying soft drink or pop or whatever, you say mineral.

[1484] Can I have mineral?

[1485] It's not like a mineral water which means soft drink.

[1486] Let me have mineral.

[1487] Was it fun winning an Emmy?

[1488] I didn't expect to win it.

[1489] So when you won, you had written something, but you're like, I'm going to write this, but I'm not going to say it in my pocket, even for superstition.

[1490] But I was even going through the superstition, is like, is writing it what makes me not win it?

[1491] Yeah, of course.

[1492] It's hard to know what the gods want.

[1493] Exactly.

[1494] It's like you've got to be humble enough to win it.

[1495] Exactly.

[1496] Which means if you're super humble, you wouldn't write it.

[1497] Exactly.

[1498] But then you've got to write it so that you're not up there being like, huh, I didn't write it.

[1499] You don't want to be an animal.

[1500] Lose out there.

[1501] Yeah.

[1502] Tim won, I mean, the year before, for I think you should leave.

[1503] We see it at different tables.

[1504] I see a piece of paper on the floor.

[1505] And I'm like, I'm just going to grab that.

[1506] And it's Tim's speech.

[1507] What?

[1508] And like, Tim, is this yours?

[1509] He said, yes, he would have been in so much trouble, but I'm the one who finds that speech.

[1510] No. And I know his handwriting.

[1511] It was very wild.

[1512] And you're both there, and we're both there.

[1513] And so then this time, Tim also wins his Emmy.

[1514] So we have to win our Emmys the same day as well.

[1515] That should leave.

[1516] Pretty wild.

[1517] I think you guys should get married.

[1518] I want the option.

[1519] Okay, sausage party I have to say I didn't see the movie But I've watched the TV show At first it starts I'm always looking Our kids are 9 and 11 And they're starting to really come online They just completely binge Brooklyn 99 the entire thing They love Curbier enthusiasm So it starts and I'm like Yeah this is going to be a fun cartoon for us Oh no And then all the food starts Fucking each other And they fuck each other Forever Forever.

[1520] I can't believe how much of the animation budget is probably funneled just into the fucking.

[1521] Because it's the most complicated animation they have is all this groin rubbing.

[1522] Groin rubbing is like so much specific motions.

[1523] Yeah.

[1524] There's no like set assets.

[1525] They don't just replicate the fucking.

[1526] Each one is individual.

[1527] It was creative.

[1528] Had you seen the movie?

[1529] I had.

[1530] I saw a movie in the theaters when it came out.

[1531] This was eight years ago.

[1532] And I loved it.

[1533] And you play in orange.

[1534] Yeah.

[1535] I play a megalomaniac orange named Julius.

[1536] The reason why he's an orange isn't to parallel a real -life dictator, but it's because oranges have anuses.

[1537] Oh.

[1538] Because the name of orange looks like a big old butthole.

[1539] It does, like a prolapsed anus.

[1540] And when we meet you, you're getting your salad tossed.

[1541] Oh, wow.

[1542] Yeah, this is right off the bat.

[1543] Good intro.

[1544] Yeah, your first line is while getting your...

[1545] It's getting fully rimmed.

[1546] Oh, my God.

[1547] What's it on?

[1548] Amazon Prime.

[1549] Okay.

[1550] Wow.

[1551] Good for Amazon.

[1552] Yeah.

[1553] You're carving out a really great voiceover career.

[1554] I just really love animation and I love voiceover.

[1555] Yeah, it's kind of as close as you can get to doing sketch without seeming so broad and terrible as an actor.

[1556] It's like where you can let that loose maybe.

[1557] You just do the biggest thing.

[1558] It's countered by just the imagination of whatever the look of the animation is.

[1559] I truly love it.

[1560] So any opportunity I get, I want to do it.

[1561] I want to do it well.

[1562] It must be fun.

[1563] Envious of this.

[1564] There's debate on whether I want to say jealous or envious.

[1565] I want you to have all this.

[1566] Okay.

[1567] So I don't want you to not have it.

[1568] Yes.

[1569] But you are a comedian's comedian.

[1570] You're someone all comedians like.

[1571] So I imagine you keep getting invited into these camps.

[1572] So it's like now you're invited into cess camp.

[1573] And is that radical?

[1574] I love all the stuff that he does.

[1575] Like I did the movie Good Boys.

[1576] It's a cool camp to be in because funny people who make funny things and are cool, genuine people.

[1577] That's who you want to hang out with and who you want to like collaborate with.

[1578] Yeah, I think the comedy He is almost even second as impressive as the work ethic and output of him.

[1579] There's been only a handful of people who had all the different assets.

[1580] Yep.

[1581] The output is phenomenal.

[1582] It's staggering.

[1583] Staggering.

[1584] And then he's a full -time potter as well.

[1585] He's a full -time potter.

[1586] He's a full -time pottery business.

[1587] Yeah.

[1588] Boy, he really counters the stereotype of a stoner.

[1589] Yeah.

[1590] Affable, funny stoner who works so hard and has his hands in so many different pots.

[1591] Pun.

[1592] Yeah.

[1593] Three ways.

[1594] Pottery.

[1595] Marijuanaica pawn.

[1596] And business pots.

[1597] It's rare you get a triple pun.

[1598] Very rare.

[1599] I'm very proud of it.

[1600] I'm very, very proud of it.

[1601] I think I'll bring a plaque for me. Next, you're in the new Star Trek?

[1602] The new Star Trek.

[1603] So, Section 31, it says Star Trek movie had a really great time.

[1604] I'm a Star Trek fan my whole life.

[1605] So I know every iteration of it, the motion pictures, the Shatner movies, the Picard movies.

[1606] Sure, sure, sure, sure.

[1607] I didn't watch the TV show, but I got to say, I love the Chris Pine version.

[1608] Love the JJ Abrams, 2009, as we call it.

[1609] You know, in a weird way, too, it's also a little bit of a financial safety net because you do one of these, and worst case scenario, you can go to these conventions the rest of your life.

[1610] Very smart.

[1611] They already wrapped it.

[1612] Can I get in there?

[1613] I don't mind signing a couple head shots down the road.

[1614] Who do you play in that?

[1615] So I play a physicist shape shifter, what's called a cameloid.

[1616] This is the second time there's ever been a cameloid in Star Trek.

[1617] And the first time was Iman in Star Trek 6.

[1618] Oh, wow.

[1619] Yeah.

[1620] They only do supermodels.

[1621] That's what I'm saying.

[1622] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1623] It's actually very funny.

[1624] With Iman, it's like, this is a shapeshifter.

[1625] You want to look good.

[1626] Yeah, I'll make myself Iman.

[1627] And then for me, it's like, I want to look good.

[1628] I'm going to make myself Sam Richardson.

[1629] I might accept it.

[1630] That's right.

[1631] You take that in.

[1632] Well, Sam, it's so delightful.

[1633] I thought it would be just like this.

[1634] Favorite ride at Cedar Point?

[1635] Not the demon drop.

[1636] I'd be lying.

[1637] It's the Magnum XJ -220.

[1638] Yes, sir.

[1639] I did the demon drop one time in my life and I'll never do it again.

[1640] Did you put a quarter on your knee?

[1641] I didn't.

[1642] I was too scared.

[1643] Describe them both.

[1644] The demon drop is literally just like a free fall drop.

[1645] They bring you up a few hundred feet in the air and then it just falls.

[1646] Yeah.

[1647] And if you put a quarter on your knee cap, it'll come up in the air and spin.

[1648] And I think that was in the commercial.

[1649] I think so.

[1650] I think they're everywhere, yeah.

[1651] We'll pretend it only exists in Cedar Point.

[1652] Because of the age gap for me, it'll always be the Gemini.

[1653] Well, the Gemini, I love Gemini.

[1654] Best wooden roller coaster in the world.

[1655] But just a little too many sounds, the thing makes too much noise.

[1656] The best thing about the Gemini is you're in line for a while, is a hit ride.

[1657] And you're staring at it is an enormous wood roller coaster.

[1658] You're hearing all this creaking, and you're staring at the wood.

[1659] And you're like, those are pretty thin pieces of wood.

[1660] Yeah.

[1661] It's doing a lot of the work of the ride for you, getting you scared of the structural integrity before you get on.

[1662] But only to be way suppressed by this.

[1663] Millennium for us.

[1664] Which is truly dangerous.

[1665] You can fly right out.

[1666] They never updated the restraint system.

[1667] You get air.

[1668] Like you go over a hill and your feet or your butt is like.

[1669] Yeah, way off.

[1670] And it's not even a great roller coaster, but you're not in there.

[1671] You basically just sitting on a bleacher.

[1672] Is Magnum, does it go upside down?

[1673] Are you guys upside down roller coasters?

[1674] Yes, but that wasn't its primary selling point.

[1675] Yeah.

[1676] The primary selling point was at the time it was built, it was the tallest free fall and it went the fastest.

[1677] And they held that record for a few.

[1678] And I think they beat it with the Millennium Force.

[1679] And that one, people were, like, passing out.

[1680] Oh, my God.

[1681] As it should be.

[1682] You know?

[1683] There should always be a couple rides there that can hurt you.

[1684] Yeah, exactly.

[1685] You've got to respect the world.

[1686] Did you ever go in matching outfits with a girlfriend?

[1687] I didn't.

[1688] I went in matching T -shirts with groups, like with family members.

[1689] I wish I had.

[1690] I know.

[1691] I always saw those couples and I was pretty jealous.

[1692] I didn't put it together.

[1693] But I was there on the prowl.

[1694] Yeah.

[1695] You were being in a whole better place.

[1696] And Cedar points, you're in that line forever, and you're like peeping babes, and then you're going to cross.

[1697] You're in love with that babe for like 15 minutes, and then you see another babe, and then you're in love with her for 12 minutes.

[1698] Yeah, fuck.

[1699] I picked out my babe too soon.

[1700] Oh, sorry, babe.

[1701] I can't be.

[1702] I got to move on.

[1703] I got to move on.

[1704] This other babe in my mind that I'll never say hi to.

[1705] Oh.

[1706] The whole world with.

[1707] What a time.

[1708] Okay, well, I'm going to land this plane, but I just hope we're somehow in Michigan together.

[1709] Yeah, I hope so.

[1710] That could be so fun.

[1711] I really want to go to Cedar Point.

[1712] I want to take my kids.

[1713] I want to.

[1714] I haven't been in forever, and I just need to go.

[1715] Well, listen, if we plan a trip, because my other thing was, we didn't have any money, so you would drive there in the morning and then you drive home at night.

[1716] The drive home was perilous.

[1717] My grandpa was rubbing, spit in his eyes to stay awake.

[1718] He was guzzling coffee and hitting the shoulder occasionally.

[1719] There's a long day for the grandparents.

[1720] Yeah, oh, I bet.

[1721] And I always want to stay at one of those hotels.

[1722] Yeah, me too.

[1723] And I want to go, Sam.

[1724] I don't get the biggest room in Sanduskyo.

[1725] Oh, don't you want to go big time at there?

[1726] Exactly, just really just fucking play all the games.

[1727] Show them, Rockafel style.

[1728] Yeah.

[1729] Give me the pass.

[1730] We're wearing matching outfits.

[1731] I'm truly all for it.

[1732] Me too.

[1733] You and your girl, Kristen and I, all four of us, four matching outfits.

[1734] Fuck.

[1735] All right, I'm putting this on the, like, sincere need to make it happen in my lifetime.

[1736] Absolutely.

[1737] I'm in.

[1738] All right, well, Sam, this has been great.

[1739] Everyone watched Sausage Party Food Topia?

[1740] I feel like the...

[1741] It's straight.

[1742] Yeah, okay.

[1743] I felt like.

[1744] It was.

[1745] It was, right?

[1746] It could be any number of things.

[1747] It could be an earthquake.

[1748] It could be the construction that's happening below us.

[1749] It could be, we're on a fault line.

[1750] I know.

[1751] So sorry.

[1752] Sausage Party, Food Topia on Amazon Prime now.

[1753] Sam, come back.

[1754] You're going to mean a thousand more funny things that you'll be the best thing in and we'll want to talk to you again.

[1755] I'll come back anytime.

[1756] All right.

[1757] Be well.

[1758] Thank you.

[1759] Stay tuned for the facts check so you can hear all the facts that were wrong.

[1760] Oh, pajamas.

[1761] Like a grandpa.

[1762] Grand pajamas.

[1763] Grand pajamas.

[1764] Grammys?

[1765] Grammys?

[1766] But then that's confusing.

[1767] Gorgiamas.

[1768] Yeah, because you don't like pajamas, right?

[1769] Because it reminds you.

[1770] It's triggering.

[1771] What?

[1772] It's Spanish.

[1773] Why?

[1774] That maybe it specifically reminded you of the, uh, the, um, Nighttime, the sleep nurse.

[1775] Oh.

[1776] Yeah, because she said Piamas.

[1777] Ew.

[1778] I hate her.

[1779] Do you think that was it, though?

[1780] Is that one?

[1781] No, I didn't know that she said that.

[1782] Speaking of Spanish speaking, I'm reading a beautiful book right now.

[1783] Uh -huh.

[1784] I think you might really like it.

[1785] Oh, what is it?

[1786] It's called The World I See by Dr. I think Fifi Lee, F -E -I -E -I -Lee.

[1787] She's a professor.

[1788] She had to testify in front of Congress about AI.

[1789] She's like a genius, professor, but also came here from China in 11th grade.

[1790] So the book is like her personal story paired with like what she learned about computer science.

[1791] So beautifully written.

[1792] And the people that come here and cannot speak and get dropped into high school.

[1793] And none of us have ever overcomes them.

[1794] Like I'm whining about dyslexia.

[1795] Like, holy shit.

[1796] If you can survive that.

[1797] Yeah, I know.

[1798] Yeah, and she saw some really rough stuff.

[1799] People are mean to her.

[1800] Well, there's like an ESL class she's in.

[1801] And like some boy just brushes some other boy's backpack, like barely nothing.

[1802] And the guy explodes and like beats him up really bad in front everybody.

[1803] And there's blood everywhere.

[1804] And she's like, the beating was one thing, but how his spirit was broken after that.

[1805] It's just soul crushing.

[1806] People are so mean to other people.

[1807] I know.

[1808] Well, it's like Chimp Crazy.

[1809] You watched it.

[1810] Have you started it?

[1811] No. Oh, my Lord.

[1812] We had a guest on who suggested this and you freaked out.

[1813] Yeah, Easter egg upcoming guests said, are you watching Chimp Crazy?

[1814] And it's insane I wasn't.

[1815] Well, I just didn't know, but anything labeled Chimp, I'm going to watch.

[1816] Yeah, you're in.

[1817] But for anyone who's unaware of it, it is by the filmmaker who made Tiger King.

[1818] And it's the same shit.

[1819] It's these people who want wild animals.

[1820] There's a type.

[1821] But so then, of course, this guest who suggested it, I text her saying like, holy smokes, are you right?

[1822] That's so good.

[1823] And then she sent me an article in the New York Magazine about a completely different story of this woman who got a young champ.

[1824] They had him for five years.

[1825] He was great.

[1826] Everyone in town loved him.

[1827] The cops loved him.

[1828] He was a sweetheart.

[1829] And then he became sexually mature.

[1830] Oh, no. And you know what it says in this article?

[1831] How many times do you think male chimps have sex in a day in the wild?

[1832] You know, real guess.

[1833] And I'll tell you what my guess was.

[1834] 14.

[1835] I would have guessed five to ten.

[1836] Okay.

[1837] I'm not only awake for 12 hours.

[1838] I'm sure.

[1839] A male chimp has sex 50 times a day.

[1840] Monica, this is an animal that's designed to have sex 50 times a day and that's living in a household with humans.

[1841] And then the New York Magazine article is fascinating.

[1842] Let me see if I can give you the title of it.

[1843] Travis the Menace.

[1844] He was the most famous ape in America, but to really understand a chimp, you have to know his mother.

[1845] What did the mother do?

[1846] Really fascinating story.

[1847] This woman, I think born in the 30s in Connecticut, has one husband.

[1848] They get divorced meets another guy.

[1849] They build these businesses together.

[1850] They become pretty wealthy.

[1851] They buy a big compound.

[1852] They're into horses.

[1853] She starts riding horses.

[1854] So she has a daughter.

[1855] She loves her daughter.

[1856] They're out and they go to some rodeo show in another part of the country to do their barrel racing and they see a chimp riding a horse and they really like the chimp and then she kind of bonds with the chimp and then the chimp's in the middle of his horse routine and he jumps off his horse and then runs off his horse and then runs on her and the audience and gives her a hug and then runs back.

[1857] Because she gave him a gummy bear.

[1858] Oh, yeah.

[1859] So then she contacted, ding, ding, ding, the same woman this doc is about in the...

[1860] This is in this, I don't know, I don't know what year this is, maybe 80s or something.

[1861] And she gets Travis, this chimp.

[1862] And she's this very, very close relationship with her daughter, too.

[1863] And then the daughter, oh, she gets the chimp when her daughter leaves, she meets a man and moves away.

[1864] And it kind of heart, it's heartbreaking to her.

[1865] Yeah.

[1866] And then I don't want to ruin the story because it's a twisting and turning incredible story.

[1867] But it is both about chimps, but also what you can take from this article is like, life is weirdly long.

[1868] short, but it's long.

[1869] It's like you can be on top of the mountain and they have the business and then then your daughter leaves and then this person in your life dies and this person gets cancer.

[1870] And then you can just be like, you can be at the lowest point after achieving quote safety, right?

[1871] Yeah.

[1872] And you can be at your darkest hour and then you can get desperate and you can make weird decisions.

[1873] And then there can be another upswing, you know, and then there's this creature that are dealing with this creature.

[1874] It's just wild and life.

[1875] Life is precarious.

[1876] It is.

[1877] There are car accidents.

[1878] And there are these, you know, there are cancers and there's all this stuff.

[1879] Yeah.

[1880] Yeah, it's just very precarious.

[1881] And I guess when I was reading it, I was like, man, when the sun's out, you just got to really fucking embrace it and enjoy it.

[1882] I agree.

[1883] I was listening to, nobody's listening, right?

[1884] My favorite podcast, Elizabeth and Andy.

[1885] And they were kind of just talking about this, too.

[1886] Elizabeth saw a picture.

[1887] It's a picture.

[1888] It's like from the maybe 90s, I guess.

[1889] It's a courtroom and it's husband and wife.

[1890] And they're sorting out beanie babies.

[1891] Oh, my God.

[1892] They're getting divorced and dividing up their collection.

[1893] The beanie babies.

[1894] But it's clear at that time, like they thought this was a fortune.

[1895] And so they're like, you know, so intense in struggling and spending all this time and energy and effort.

[1896] And money and lawyers.

[1897] Exactly.

[1898] to figure out how to separate these beanie babies.

[1899] Yeah.

[1900] And there were nothing.

[1901] Yeah, now they're nothing.

[1902] They're nothing.

[1903] And it's, it is such a good metaphor for everything.

[1904] It's like, it's nothing.

[1905] Yeah, the value you place on everything and you buy it.

[1906] There's only a few things that are really worth something.

[1907] And those are relationships.

[1908] But other than that, like, it's all crap.

[1909] Like, it doesn't.

[1910] It all amounts to nothing when you're dead.

[1911] We're really Easter egging this future guest because she brought, brought up the chimps, and then we also got into this a lot.

[1912] It's just really a profound moment when you look at someone's collection of things and they're no longer there to provide the value that they had.

[1913] Without them, they're just objects that'll get moved to a dom.

[1914] Well, that's like on the positive end of it.

[1915] That's like the line and air.

[1916] Okay.

[1917] When they say a shoe's just a shoe until someone steps in it.

[1918] Oh, okay.

[1919] i .e. Michael Jordan.

[1920] That's what the movie's about.

[1921] So, um...

[1922] I cannot wait.

[1923] You know, it's good, and...

[1924] Well, let me ask you this.

[1925] Do you like when you can get everything at once or when they do a week to week?

[1926] Oh.

[1927] I think there's pros and cons to both.

[1928] Well, ding, ding, ding to our last fact check about delayed gratification.

[1929] Yes.

[1930] I like it all.

[1931] Yeah.

[1932] But then I, it is nice to have to wait.

[1933] I know, because like now I'm really excited for Sunday.

[1934] Because the new chimp episode comes to that.

[1935] It's good to look forward to something.

[1936] I think the sweet spot is to jump in halfway through a season.

[1937] Yeah.

[1938] So you can binge the first few and then waities?

[1939] Yeah.

[1940] That's smart.

[1941] Waity wait.

[1942] But then it's like, remember when we were watching, ding, ding, ding.

[1943] The Last Dance.

[1944] Oh, Cedars is calling me. Pin.

[1945] Same.

[1946] Okay.

[1947] You too.

[1948] I talked to him last night.

[1949] Oh, you talked to him last night.

[1950] Yeah, for like an hour.

[1951] That's my pin.

[1952] So we'll circle back to that.

[1953] Yeah, yeah, yeah, because on the last dance and we were watching, we thought there were more.

[1954] Remember, and then it turned into week -to -week.

[1955] Right, right.

[1956] That was horrible.

[1957] But gray?

[1958] No. Oh, okay, that was in the...

[1959] It was a tantrum.

[1960] Okay.

[1961] Okay, so, yeah, so Dr. Richard Isaacson, who we have had on the show, go back and listen.

[1962] That's when we got our blood drawn.

[1963] We did a whole thing.

[1964] He's lovely.

[1965] Yeah.

[1966] We said he was very playful, which he is.

[1967] He is, yeah.

[1968] He's a preventative neurologist.

[1969] And so he, you know, he did all these tests.

[1970] They sent him all out.

[1971] And then he's been in touch about our results.

[1972] And what we need to look into further.

[1973] And yeah, so he called me a couple days ago and told me my heart's going to explode at any moment.

[1974] I doubt those were his exact words.

[1975] He did not say that.

[1976] He did not say that.

[1977] but there's some unnerving cholesterol stuff.

[1978] Which, by the way, isn't terribly new.

[1979] We were talking about your cholesterol three years ago.

[1980] Yeah, but he's shocked at the lack of, based on what he's seeing.

[1981] Intervention?

[1982] Yeah.

[1983] You were advised to go on a Stanton, though?

[1984] You had to have been, no?

[1985] No. You weren't?

[1986] No, they're just like, you know, keep an eye on it and that, yeah, he's surprised by that.

[1987] And he's hooking me up quickly with.

[1988] a preventative cardiologist to go and like look into all this much further.

[1989] Yeah, because you're, I mean, you're 36 today, but really at the time of this airing, you're 37, happy birthday again.

[1990] Thank you.

[1991] Great time to look into it.

[1992] Plenty of time.

[1993] Yeah, it seemed, well.

[1994] I'd rather be getting this news if I were you now than at 49.

[1995] Well, yeah, it seems like I'll be dead if I don't, based on the urgency.

[1996] I mean, I'm kidding, sort of.

[1997] You know, he's done all this research.

[1998] It's so nice.

[1999] I can't believe how kind it is.

[2000] He's generous.

[2001] So generous.

[2002] He's such a busy man and he, like, he's spending a lot of time.

[2003] Yeah.

[2004] On all of us, it sounds like.

[2005] But he doesn't know a preventative cardiologist.

[2006] He was just like, let's find one, basically.

[2007] So then he was just Googling.

[2008] Cold calling.

[2009] Yeah.

[2010] And then he emailed this person and, like, gave the rundown.

[2011] And then they said they would see me. And then he was like, it is.

[2012] But then he was like, maybe you should look at some backups, but in case it takes a long time for them to see you.

[2013] And I'm like, how bad is this?

[2014] I didn't ask that, which I probably should.

[2015] He said he said not to worry about this, not to freak out, but there is also some like pre -pre -diabetes things he's seeing.

[2016] That makes sense because of the family history.

[2017] It's all connected.

[2018] It's all fine, but, you know.

[2019] You know what I thought I had?

[2020] What?

[2021] I'm like, what if he's never taken an Indian's blood?

[2022] And like, what if these markers are just standard for the Indian population?

[2023] My mom doesn't have it.

[2024] She doesn't have high cholesterol.

[2025] Only my dad.

[2026] Looks like I got a lot of his genes.

[2027] Well, I'll say.

[2028] I knew that.

[2029] I knew that before.

[2030] Yeah.

[2031] So, anyhow, I'll keep everyone updated on that on my heart.

[2032] Okay.

[2033] If it explodes, I've had a great light.

[2034] I really have.

[2035] I've had such a good life.

[2036] Yeah.

[2037] And, you know, 37.

[2038] It's pretty good.

[2039] Not too bad.

[2040] You're born in the 1300s.

[2041] Not too bad.

[2042] Pretty average.

[2043] Okay, so you're speaking to him today?

[2044] Yeah, yeah.

[2045] He wants to talk to me about some findings.

[2046] Oh, I wonder what he found.

[2047] Yeah, I'll find out it too, I guess.

[2048] Tell me what he says.

[2049] I will.

[2050] I will.

[2051] What did he say about you?

[2052] I said I was pretty bored.

[2053] in my results, but my omega -3s were the worst, almost out of anyone that took the study.

[2054] But that's too low.

[2055] You just take a pill.

[2056] A pill and fish once a week.

[2057] Oh.

[2058] Do you not eat a lot of fish?

[2059] I don't eat a lot of fish.

[2060] Really?

[2061] Only at, like, a restaurant, I'll eat.

[2062] He said take a pill and fish once a week.

[2063] Well, that's good exercise.

[2064] Actually, it's really not good exercise.

[2065] It's not great exercise, man. And he wants me to change my exercise routine.

[2066] Zone 2.

[2067] I mostly only do high and.

[2068] intensity yeah and he wants me to do hold on a second this is a news break for me breaking news you exercise yeah I don't do the Peloton like an hour a day you do five to six days a week no when did this start two years ago you are so secretive Monika and I would have been blabbing about that a peloton if we were doing the Peloton five days a week for an hour a day we would be so proud of ourselves we'd be blabbing I mean only if drama happens like people are Won't get out of your way Yeah, the Peloton and you're like Oh fuck I don't know what to do He always made less of that And do too low intensity And two strength training days Yeah he's so into strength training He said the same to me He said I'm under muscle Yeah Which obviously I don't do any strength training Right But I made an appointment with the trainer You did?

[2069] Yes I'm gonna start doing it When we get back from New York Oh good Two days a week You're gonna like it No, I'm really pissed, but it's fine.

[2070] I guess I got to do it.

[2071] Trust me, I have been undermuscled and overmuscled, and it physically feels really good.

[2072] I like how it feels for your skeletal system.

[2073] Like, there's something about having that muscle that keeps your, oh, let's just say this, my posture was way worse when I had less muscle.

[2074] Yeah.

[2075] I had more pains when I had less muscle.

[2076] Like, I just have noticed that physically makes me feel, lot better when I have more muscle mass. Yeah, that makes sense.

[2077] I mean, there's no getting around it.

[2078] We've had a million people say, especially for women, that it's really important to do.

[2079] Yeah, it's pretty unrefuted at this point.

[2080] Year seven, we're going to do it.

[2081] You and me. Yeah, we'll do it.

[2082] I know what I want to say.

[2083] I read this yesterday.

[2084] The Alex Cooper, you read this?

[2085] Mm -mm.

[2086] Got a $125 million deal was serious.

[2087] And I want to say publicly, fucking go get it girl I'm so happy for her what a fucking awesome just make your shit build your thing she did it it's fucking awesome I couldn't be happier for her that's so cool blew the boys away I love it yeah that's really cool good for her we like to hear that all right well let's get into it you got a lunch and I got a Santa Monica that's much later but still what time for But that was intentional, right?

[2088] Because you like to spend the evening there.

[2089] Yeah, it was on purpose.

[2090] Now you regret it?

[2091] I regret it a little bit.

[2092] Oh.

[2093] That's okay.

[2094] I'll figure it.

[2095] Did you have a rough night's sleep?

[2096] No. Okay.

[2097] Don't, stop.

[2098] Don't act like I'm crazy for that response.

[2099] Anyone who says, did you have a rough night's sleep?

[2100] I know what you're saying.

[2101] That you're, you are grumpy?

[2102] Yeah, you're saying that.

[2103] And then you act shocked that I have this reaction.

[2104] That feels gaslighty.

[2105] Really?

[2106] I think it feels generous because I don't think you're a grumpy person.

[2107] And so my guess is something happened and you're grumpy and don't want to go to Santa Monica at 4 anymore.

[2108] So my hunch is...

[2109] Well, you made the appointment.

[2110] At the time you made it, you were excited and that seemed like the right move.

[2111] And then now you don't want to do that.

[2112] So I'm like...

[2113] Because...

[2114] You might have had a bad night's sleep.

[2115] No, because...

[2116] I was generous.

[2117] Okay.

[2118] Well, that's not how I took it.

[2119] Okay.

[2120] Um, also the reason I was excited to, or I was happy to do it at four is because normally Molly and I hang out.

[2121] Yeah.

[2122] But she's coming back from Hawaii and won't be back until late.

[2123] So now I'm just going to be stuck there for four hours.

[2124] And that's now why I regret it.

[2125] Gotcha.

[2126] There's reasoning behind it.

[2127] Okay.

[2128] Um, and I don't really have any other friends in San Monica.

[2129] Well, you can't.

[2130] Exactly.

[2131] It's like having a friend in Nevada.

[2132] Although I saw my friend from Santa Monica yesterday.

[2133] but he made the effort De Castro drove out after he dropped his baby off at school and we did a hike fun yeah I'm a little mad at him oh why because when he arrived he said oh my God I haven't worked out and I think he said a year wow for people who don't remember Steve DeCastro is a stunt man extraordinary one of my great friends and he also stunt coordinated two of the movies I did he also did some second unit directing on chips he's lovely dude jujitsu black belt Yeah, and he said he hasn't worked out.

[2134] He goes, and I haven't done cardio in like a year.

[2135] Wow.

[2136] So I'm almost thinking like, this is going to be a rough hike.

[2137] Like, I'm going to have to be going so slow.

[2138] So I go on, I'm going to throw on my rucksack.

[2139] And he goes, yeah, do something.

[2140] Wait yourself down because I don't want you to kill me. And then we hiked and he chatted the whole time.

[2141] You know, it's very hard to chat when you're hiking.

[2142] Yeah.

[2143] He was completely fine.

[2144] And I was like, you're panting for the next one.

[2145] That wasn't panting, but there wasn't much of a gap between our, mind you, I haven't hiked either since we in a way this summer.

[2146] It's been so hot.

[2147] Regardless, I was like, he's a physical phenom.

[2148] I guess he always has been.

[2149] Like, he hasn't worked out in a year and then he fucking hiked up and he was chatting the whole time and we were going at a pretty good pace and he was completely fine.

[2150] I don't even think he was sweating.

[2151] Wow.

[2152] Yeah.

[2153] So fuck you.

[2154] Congratulations, Alex Cooper and fuck you Steve Bacastorow.

[2155] Wow, wow, wow.

[2156] I wonder how his cholesterol is.

[2157] He's probably smart enough to have never checked.

[2158] What you don't know can't hurt you.

[2159] I think this is.

[2160] That's what they say.

[2161] Okay, so this is for Sam Richardson.

[2162] Funny man. The jewel of Detroit.

[2163] Well, Chuck Woolery and then him.

[2164] Okay.

[2165] And some other people.

[2166] Yeah.

[2167] Jeff Daniels, Bob Seeger.

[2168] Yeah.

[2169] We talked about all these people.

[2170] Yeah.

[2171] We talked about Cedar Point?

[2172] My God.

[2173] Are you a little, really quick?

[2174] Yeah.

[2175] Are you a little bit curious to go just because you have to admit of any topic that comes out, the people that have gone there, they can't shut up about it, right?

[2176] It's like the funniest thing.

[2177] Like, I know it's annoying to you, but it's also pretty comedic.

[2178] It's the same reaction every time and people go through the same list of roller coasters.

[2179] It would be like if every time a certain restaurant came up in New York, everyone went on about it for 15 minutes.

[2180] I'd be like, I've got to try that restaurant.

[2181] And I guess I'm curious, does it not elicit that?

[2182] It doesn't because this is really what it does.

[2183] Okay.

[2184] I feel like that you're going to be so mad.

[2185] But I feel that our Six Flags Over Georgia was that.

[2186] Uh -huh.

[2187] And so, like, that is what happens if you talk to people who went there.

[2188] Well, Counterpoint.

[2189] We've had a lot of people from Georgia on the show.

[2190] And you guys have talked about Atlanta and Georgia.

[2191] Uh -huh.

[2192] And it's never come up.

[2193] But I don't bring it up.

[2194] I don't say, have you been to Six Flags.

[2195] Normally, let's be honest and truthful.

[2196] Normally you say, have you been to Cedar Point?

[2197] And that's what kicks off these conversations.

[2198] Perhaps.

[2199] I've never done that.

[2200] I have, I'm not going to go back and listen.

[2201] And there's 100 at this point conversations about Cedar Point.

[2202] Again, I got it.

[2203] I'm, oh, congratulations Alex Cooper.

[2204] Fuck you to Castro and fuck you Cedar Point.

[2205] Oh my God, what turn.

[2206] The amount that I publicized Cedar Point and they have not reached out to give me free passes for my family.

[2207] Because I'm struggling?

[2208] Yeah.

[2209] You don't deserve free passes.

[2210] Every time you go on now, you say you want to go and you want to take a private jet there.

[2211] That's my new thing.

[2212] By the way, I'm crazy.

[2213] Your feet are not on the ground anymore.

[2214] I'm not going to ever do that.

[2215] It's just a funny fantasy.

[2216] In fact, it's more fun to have that fantasy than it would be to do that.

[2217] Obviously.

[2218] Because I'd be on the plane.

[2219] I'm like, this is a waste of money.

[2220] I mean, this is insane.

[2221] Oh, it is.

[2222] Yeah, yeah.

[2223] Yeah, I mean, if it was real.

[2224] If it was real, but the fantasy of it is fantastic.

[2225] Like, maybe even wear a suit on the way there.

[2226] Yeah, I mean, sure.

[2227] David Letterman would be so mad if you did that.

[2228] Because I wore a suit for that.

[2229] And not a dinner party.

[2230] Oh, right, right.

[2231] That's so rude.

[2232] It's so rude.

[2233] Anyway.

[2234] I'm not going to do it, but I might do it.

[2235] Okay.

[2236] I have to say I might do it so that the fantasy works.

[2237] I get it.

[2238] I get it.

[2239] You can't say, like, if I win the lottery, but you don't buy a lottery ticket.

[2240] You're still going to buy the lottery ticket.

[2241] Yeah, that's right.

[2242] But making it clear, I don't think you should get free tickets.

[2243] I think they should save the free tickets for a child of need.

[2244] Orphans or a child in need.

[2245] Let's get the orphans.

[2246] Yeah.

[2247] They might already do that.

[2248] Yeah, I hope.

[2249] They probably don't.

[2250] Well, but they might.

[2251] The orphans aren't well organized as a, like, voting block.

[2252] That's the problem.

[2253] I know.

[2254] They need better representation.

[2255] This is like the foster care that you said.

[2256] you were going to take on as your cause.

[2257] I know.

[2258] How far are you?

[2259] Really throwing daggers.

[2260] It's got very cruel.

[2261] Okay, but let me tell you something.

[2262] Six Flags was so fun.

[2263] Yeah?

[2264] Tell me about it.

[2265] What was the best ride?

[2266] Well, Batman was my favorite.

[2267] Okay.

[2268] Well, you know why I am saying okay.

[2269] Because they have that at the Six Flags.

[2270] It's different.

[2271] They have Superman and Batman.

[2272] Yes, they have both.

[2273] That is so different.

[2274] I guarantee Do they have What's it called?

[2275] Raging Bull?

[2276] No, Riddler's Revenge.

[2277] No. Do they have The Viper?

[2278] Yeah.

[2279] No, they don't.

[2280] Yes, they do.

[2281] They have the viper that goes one way and then circles back the other way.

[2282] I'm going to read you the list of roller coasters at the I think Chicago had that fiber.

[2283] Do they have the Georgia coaster?

[2284] Six Flags is McDonald's.

[2285] Cedar Points is Emmy Burger.

[2286] Oh, gross.

[2287] So you know what would be funny is I don't get free tickets from Cedar Point but I get a cease and desist I do too I love it so much I love it I see synest from who from six flags so what would be funny is I don't get any free passes from Cedar Point but I do get sued by for defamation for six flags They don't need to because I'm here to stick up for six flags everyone should go to six flags but I do want to get the list of coast six flags What's it even called this one?

[2288] American Eagle that's Magic Mountain Not the same as Six Flags Over Georgia.

[2289] No, I know.

[2290] Did you have the American Eagle at the Georgia one?

[2291] That was the big, like, Chicago ride.

[2292] No, we didn't have that.

[2293] That one's cool.

[2294] That's the one that's in vacation.

[2295] That's the white wooden one.

[2296] Yeah, yeah.

[2297] Yeah, that's like the Gemini at Cedar Point, the best amusement park in the world.

[2298] Oh, I'm so annoyed.

[2299] We're still talking about this.

[2300] Okay, let me look at Six Flags over Georgia all rides.

[2301] Ooh, first one that comes up Batman.

[2302] You want to hear what they have there?

[2303] Yeah.

[2304] They have the Riddlers Revenge.

[2305] Okay.

[2306] Tats.

[2307] So, Wonder Woman.

[2308] Okay.

[2309] Twisted colossus, six flags.

[2310] That's the great American, I think.

[2311] I think they call it Colossus at Magic Mountain.

[2312] Yeah, I think so.

[2313] New Revolution.

[2314] Superman, Viper, Apocalypse, Batman, Magic Flyer, Gold Rusher, Full Throttle, Roadrunner Express, Gold Rusher.

[2315] I already read that one, but they separated it.

[2316] One was a compound word and this one separated.

[2317] Goliath, scream, X2, Canyon.

[2318] Blaster, Cyclone, Ninja, Green Lantern, Goliath, flashback, Canyan Blaster.

[2319] Okay, what was the Riddler one?

[2320] Riddler's Revenge.

[2321] Okay, so these are all different because we have Batman the ride.

[2322] We have acrophobia.

[2323] That was a huge ride.

[2324] So Apocalypse?

[2325] Gary.

[2326] Apocalypse.

[2327] Well, they got one here called Apocalypse.

[2328] No, we don't have that.

[2329] Just the like drop one.

[2330] Oh, like the demon drop.

[2331] Exactly.

[2332] That's my whole point.

[2333] That they're all the same.

[2334] Yes.

[2335] That what's at Cedar Point is at Six Flags.

[2336] I dare you.

[2337] Okay.

[2338] And you've also said it about Rob Sixthike.

[2339] Yeah, that's like this at Cedar Point.

[2340] It's all the same.

[2341] Well, I mean, the joke's on me because Six Flags bought Cedar Point.

[2342] You know that, right?

[2343] I didn't.

[2344] It just happened.

[2345] You've been keeping that silent.

[2346] It's very new.

[2347] Wow.

[2348] And certainly now they're not going to send me free tickets.

[2349] Okay.

[2350] You know what Six Flags Magic Mountain or whatever doesn't have?

[2351] Georgia scorcher.

[2352] Yeah.

[2353] Doesn't have that.

[2354] That'd be crazy.

[2355] That was.

[2356] That was the one?

[2357] A great ride.

[2358] What happens there?

[2359] Is it metal?

[2360] Is it steel?

[2361] You put your feet to the fire.

[2362] Oh.

[2363] It's upside down.

[2364] So many are upset down.

[2365] I don't care about upside down if I'm being honest.

[2366] I love upside down.

[2367] Yeah, I used to.

[2368] I mean, I probably don't anymore.

[2369] Oh, it would fuck you up.

[2370] Yeah, probably.

[2371] You remember my story with Carly.

[2372] Yeah.

[2373] Oh, interesting.

[2374] It was just the anniversary of that terrible day because her birthday was two days ago.

[2375] Oh, yeah.

[2376] You know, we rode out there on the Harley.

[2377] We were going to have the best day of our lives.

[2378] Took one ride and we had to sit on the grass for like an hour and a half because we were so sick.

[2379] and then finally we got back on the motorcycle and drove home defeated.

[2380] It was, what a disaster.

[2381] That is a disaster.

[2382] It's embarrassing, really.

[2383] I'm embarrassed.

[2384] Also, we had the scream machine.

[2385] That was huge.

[2386] That was probably like your...

[2387] Yeah, the Great American Screen Machine was, it looks just like the American Eagle.

[2388] Okay, and then like the one you had at Cedar Point.

[2389] No. Yeah, you already told him that it was.

[2390] The Gemini?

[2391] Greatest roller coaster in the history roller coaster.

[2392] Anyway, I think it's a little, like, I hate to say it.

[2393] It's a little like Little Brother Energy.

[2394] What is?

[2395] Cedar Point.

[2396] Little Brother Energy.

[2397] What are you talking about?

[2398] We gotta talk about it.

[2399] We gotta talk about Cedar Point all the time.

[2400] Oh, wow.

[2401] Because it's like.

[2402] Also, is Little Brother Energy a thing, or did you just invent it?

[2403] I invented it on Fightless Bird, Rhode Island episode.

[2404] Oh.

[2405] Because I think Rhode Island has Little Brother Energy.

[2406] And I'm really grossed out.

[2407] my little brother energy.

[2408] You are.

[2409] I am.

[2410] You must be grossed up by me because I'm a little brother.

[2411] No, it's not.

[2412] I'm a baby little brother.

[2413] I'm a baby blover.

[2414] It doesn't.

[2415] It's your baby brava dax.

[2416] Hi, David.

[2417] Can we go to Cedar Point?

[2418] Oh, my God.

[2419] It's a baby bovah.

[2420] Oh, that's cute.

[2421] Listen, it's not.

[2422] I'm 49 now.

[2423] Still your baby lover.

[2424] Oh, my God.

[2425] It doesn't actually equate to if you're a baby brother.

[2426] or a little brother.

[2427] It's an energy.

[2428] Beta energy is what you're talking about, I think.

[2429] It's not.

[2430] It's a proving yourself energy.

[2431] And it is uncomp.

[2432] Like my brother's a little brother, but he has zero little brother energy.

[2433] You could give a fuck.

[2434] He does not want to, he has no. LBE.

[2435] Yep.

[2436] Well, so let's.

[2437] Okay.

[2438] So the Scoville scale.

[2439] We talked about that for a second.

[2440] people know this probably but it's it's a measurement of pungency spiciness or heat heat of chili peppers and other substances this isn't going to shock you but i don't fully embrace the scovil system why because i've done hot ones right i've also gotten like carolina reaper i've gotten the chips that are this yeah and so often i'm like well that's interesting the one that was half on the school system was hotter.

[2441] And everyone agrees.

[2442] This is really weird.

[2443] Everyone agrees.

[2444] That second or last one's the hottest on hot ones.

[2445] Yeah, it's like, you know, a 500 ,000 less on the Scoville.

[2446] And I'm like, so I guess in my experience, it's not.

[2447] Well, he says the host of hot ones, he's so cool.

[2448] He is the greatest.

[2449] We should have him off.

[2450] Definitely.

[2451] Sean Evans.

[2452] Sean Evans.

[2453] Sean, the host of hot ones, says it's actually because it hits in different parts.

[2454] of the mouth and throat and stuff.

[2455] So sometimes even if it's less, the place it hits, your body reacts more intensely.

[2456] Like, I do believe there is some chemical they mix with this thing that produces a metric.

[2457] And I do believe that is all correct.

[2458] But I don't know that that chemical compound they used to evaluate it is perfectly paralleling the human experience with it.

[2459] Yeah, I get that.

[2460] Okay, I'm going to read a little bit.

[2461] Okay.

[2462] The scale is named after its creator, America.

[2463] Oh, also recorded in Scoville Heat Units, S -H -U.

[2464] That seems like that would be on trivia.

[2465] S -H -U.

[2466] Shoe.

[2467] People can remember that.

[2468] It's based on the concentration of capsaicinoids.

[2469] Capsa -sinoids.

[2470] Capsa -sinoids.

[2471] When you do that sometimes, you know what it reminds me of?

[2472] Little brother?

[2473] In a way, spelling bee contestants.

[2474] Do they say the same?

[2475] They're like abadashary.

[2476] Abadashry They'll, like, say it Yeah kind of charitically while they're working out Habadishry Abadashry Origin and then they'll ask Equation, you know, whatever the fuck they say Definition maybe they get They get a definition And you can also find out The origin But that has a name Well, place of origin Is important because of The way you spell things Sure.

[2477] Tire in England T. Latin.

[2478] Tire.

[2479] T .Y .R. T. T -Y -R -E.

[2480] That was a on, that's crazy.

[2481] That was on a crossword I did the other day, like two days ago.

[2482] And I don't do crosswords that often.

[2483] I think they spell leader wrong, too.

[2484] I think it might be L -I -T -R -E.

[2485] Probably, yeah.

[2486] Okay, Scoval.

[2487] S -H -U.

[2488] Kapsasanoids, among which capsaic, I'm probably saying it wrong.

[2489] Capsacin is the predominant component.

[2490] So that's what they're measuring.

[2491] Yeah, concentration of caps A -C -C -C -C -C -C -C -C -C -C -C -.

[2492] It's really hard.

[2493] if you saw this C -A -P -S -A -I -C -N You lost me so long ago I can't even visualize what that was, yeah Oh, an alternative method High Performance Liquid Chromatography HPLC can be used to analytically quantify the capsaicinoid content as an indicator of pungency Okay, so that's a competitor Like six flags and Yeah What's it called Cedar Point?

[2494] How dare you?

[2495] You're a piece of you You have a piece of shit energy, energy, if I can say it.

[2496] You have POSE.

[2497] Oh, that sounds like PCOS, which I do think I have.

[2498] I don't, but I...

[2499] What's PCOS?

[2500] It's a polycystic ovarian syndrome.

[2501] Oh.

[2502] Well, that came right off the tongue for you.

[2503] Yeah, I did.

[2504] I know a lot about it.

[2505] Sweetball pepper is zero on the scale.

[2506] Okay.

[2507] And then pure capsaicin is 16 million.

[2508] Oh.

[2509] Okay.

[2510] I want to try that.

[2511] So a habanero is 300 ,000.

[2512] Carolina Reaper, 2 .1 million.

[2513] 2 .1 mil.

[2514] Okay, pepper spray is 5 million.

[2515] Ooh.

[2516] I am, I feel very fortunate.

[2517] I have two things I feel very fortunate about today.

[2518] One is I've never been sprayed with pepper spray.

[2519] I hope to make it through my whole life without that experience.

[2520] Number two, I'm applying for global entry.

[2521] Uh -huh.

[2522] And the fact that I haven't been arrested is almost impossible.

[2523] It is.

[2524] I can't even believe.

[2525] I'm shocked.

[2526] Because I even in my own mind, I had to really like, I know this sounds crazy.

[2527] I had to really think about it.

[2528] I've certainly had a ton of interaction with police.

[2529] I've been in the back of police cars.

[2530] Right.

[2531] I've been questioned by the police.

[2532] They came to my high school once to talk to me. They came to my front yard to talk to me. And I didn't ever get arrested.

[2533] Wow.

[2534] And it's, I can't.

[2535] believe i got out of all that addiction without being arrested this is so lucky so lucky and fights and oh my god so many fights yeah it's crazy crazy hello david it's for will beover our 50 years old today still your little bummer he sounds kind of like oh god on my tombstone it's gonna say here wise little buffer oh that's sad there's been too much death talk lately okay let's talk about some births okay hello it's bob is that what you were thinking it was similar to hello it's bob no do we have any money no it sounded like our friend oh hermium permia yes sounded a little bit hermium permium talks like this oh yeah he's not a little brother he's the only child he thinks yeah i never met any of my family members miss monica that's why you're my mom Eka.

[2536] You're such a good mom, Eka.

[2537] Happy birthday to you.

[2538] Oh, thank you.

[2539] He turned 37 years old.

[2540] He really doesn't let anyone else talk, does he?

[2541] He has social awkwardness and developmental things.

[2542] Oh.

[2543] And you're shining a big old light on it.

[2544] Now he wants to retreat into his apartment.

[2545] Might not come up for a couple weeks.

[2546] That's okay.

[2547] I got television and streaming services.

[2548] There's an incredible documentary about chimpanzees.

[2549] Oh, my God.

[2550] I'm thinking about getting one myself.

[2551] Jesus.

[2552] Oh, my God.

[2553] Okay.

[2554] Miss Monica, you ever been at a Cedar Point?

[2555] You do have little brother energy.

[2556] I love Hermia.

[2557] We haven't seen him in a while.

[2558] Yeah.

[2559] Has he been all right?

[2560] It's hard for me to come out in the summertime.

[2561] It's awfully hot outside.

[2562] I like to stay inside the AC condition.

[2563] I think it's the greatest invention of all time.

[2564] That ice cold air blowing in, she, look out the window, people are sweating.

[2565] Not you, you're inside watching your chimp documentary.

[2566] Thinking about getting one yourself.

[2567] I just want to say, just as his mother, that he needs to be a little careful saying that there's an invention that's better than what the robot has invented, okay?

[2568] Because he might get upset.

[2569] Oh, my robot friend?

[2570] Yeah.

[2571] What did he invent?

[2572] He claims stuff.

[2573] I don't know if it's real.

[2574] Okay.

[2575] Well, he's confused.

[2576] Go on.

[2577] Tell me more.

[2578] Well, hasn't he to us?

[2579] I love to learn, Miss Monica.

[2580] Don't worry.

[2581] I'm not like that other man. Free though.

[2582] I'm not going to say anything weird.

[2583] That's fair.

[2584] Thank you.

[2585] Oh, no. I see him coming.

[2586] I see him.

[2587] Knock, knock.

[2588] Stop.

[2589] Is Miss Monica there?

[2590] Ew.

[2591] He is not.

[2592] I need a mommy, too, for all my feelings.

[2593] I'm hungry.

[2594] I'm hungry.

[2595] should we stop what if I got into some weird do you ever worry you couldn't stop but what yeah do you ever if you ever worried that like maybe I'll go into some crazy schizophrenic loop or all the characters will be talking to each other and then you'll have to run outside and you'll like get my family to come in and try everyone will be screaming at me but I can't get out of the loop does that ever cross your mind yeah you know who hasn't been here So long, but now we're doing it.

[2596] So let's get them all out of the closet.

[2597] Monica, I heard you're about to put on some muscle mass. Get some quadriceps and some triceps and some of latissimus.

[2598] Oh, my God.

[2599] Are you going to get the pump?

[2600] You know, and I get the pump, it feels like coming.

[2601] Ew.

[2602] That's a direct quote, Monica.

[2603] Tax.

[2604] It's from the documentary.

[2605] You cross the line.

[2606] That is his words.

[2607] I didn't, that's not me. I'm just reporting the news as it comes in.

[2608] Can I do some facts on, yeah, okay.

[2609] You said other countries, in other countries, people aren't getting married.

[2610] So I wanted to do some marriage rates by country.

[2611] That's a fun exercise.

[2612] What do you think is the lowest?

[2613] Well, this is interesting.

[2614] I think, my guess is either going to be New Zealand or like some of these Scandinavian countries.

[2615] It's Qatar.

[2616] I'm surprised.

[2617] Well, and I might get in trouble suggesting this, one guy is snatching up like all the wives and a ton of the men are going unmarried.

[2618] Okay.

[2619] So that could be skewing the data.

[2620] Venezuela is 96.

[2621] 96?

[2622] What?

[2623] Out of 99.

[2624] Like, I'm on, this is the list, okay?

[2625] Oh.

[2626] This is number of marriages per 1 ,000 population per year by country.

[2627] This is from the economist.

[2628] I got to add one thing, okay, when we're looking at data.

[2629] Clearly this data could be reflective, too, of how young a population is, right?

[2630] Like, Japan has a very old population, and obviously older people are married at a higher rate than younger people.

[2631] So this is, like, it could be confusing, but go ahead.

[2632] Yeah.

[2633] The United States is 44th on the list.

[2634] It's 5 .1.

[2635] Marriage is per what, was it?

[2636] Per 1 ,000.

[2637] Right.

[2638] Only 5 .4.

[2639] people per 1 ,000 are married?

[2640] It's per year.

[2641] Per year.

[2642] That's not going to count for people that have previously married.

[2643] Okay.

[2644] So it's just the current rate.

[2645] I got you.

[2646] Five people get married per year out of every thousand.

[2647] Okay.

[2648] It seems low, doesn't it?

[2649] It does seem low.

[2650] Palestine is number one at 10.

[2651] So it's not like great, nothing is crazy.

[2652] So that's got the highest rate of marriage?

[2653] Yes.

[2654] Yeah.

[2655] Okay.

[2656] Okay.

[2657] And what was the last place?

[2658] Last place is Qatar, 1.

[2659] 0 .4.

[2660] Okay.

[2661] Where's Kiwi -Vil in there?

[2662] Okay, New Zealand is United Kingdom lower than the U .S.?

[2663] Uh -huh.

[2664] I believe that.

[2665] Germany.

[2666] Germany, though.

[2667] I hate to say this.

[2668] Japan, 4 .1, lower.

[2669] But again, because this is rate.

[2670] Oh, yeah.

[2671] So that totally makes sense.

[2672] Okay.

[2673] New Zealand 3 .6.

[2674] What number on the list?

[2675] 70.

[2676] 70.

[2677] Okay.

[2678] Do you see any of those Scandinavian countries?

[2679] Norway, 71.

[2680] Okay.

[2681] Sweden's 68.

[2682] Okay.

[2683] Who's 69?

[2684] And that's 3 .8.

[2685] South Korea.

[2686] Congrats, South Korea.

[2687] Congrats Alex Cooper.

[2688] Congrats.

[2689] Fuck you, Steve DeCastro.

[2690] Fuck you, Cedar Point.

[2691] See?

[2692] Okay.

[2693] Anyway.

[2694] And you're right.

[2695] There a lot of the European ones are less than America.

[2696] but America's still halfway.

[2697] Like, I hate to say this.

[2698] People are going to be very mad that I say this.

[2699] And I say this as a married person.

[2700] I do think it'll evolve away from it.

[2701] I think we're evolving away from it.

[2702] So I think, like, when you look at these countries that are more progressive, you're seeing.

[2703] But you like marriage.

[2704] I love it, yeah.

[2705] You say you're for it.

[2706] But, again, this gets into Christmas and all these different things, which is, do I like marriage?

[2707] I don't know.

[2708] Do I like partnerships and kids?

[2709] Do I like families?

[2710] Yeah.

[2711] Do they need to.

[2712] go to the courthouse and make it official.

[2713] I don't have no, I don't care about that.

[2714] What is it?

[2715] There's a sign.

[2716] I don't care about that.

[2717] What is it?

[2718] I don't know it.

[2719] I don't think.

[2720] What was the Teen Witch thing?

[2721] It was Sabrina?

[2722] No. There was a earlier thing that you would know because you're closer to Carly.

[2723] Although Carly is older than you, you're going to miss. Top that.

[2724] Yes.

[2725] Top that.

[2726] Top that.

[2727] I don't give up about that.

[2728] I don't know that.

[2729] It was like a song they sang.

[2730] Teen Witch, 1989.

[2731] movie.

[2732] Teen witch, 1989.

[2733] Top that.

[2734] Top that.

[2735] I don't give up about that.

[2736] And they blinked it, bleeped it like that.

[2737] Oh, it was teenage witches.

[2738] It wasn't adult witches.

[2739] Adult witches are nasty.

[2740] Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[2741] That same guest.

[2742] I know, I know.

[2743] We should just air it after this.

[2744] No, they have to hang tight.

[2745] Okay.

[2746] That was pretty quick on the fire, Wobbywob.

[2747] Just Google got lucky.

[2748] You was only two years old when that came.

[2749] came up just a little boba oh oh okay the code you were talking about abba left right left right up down up down left wait left right left right up down up down abba okay so there's a few codes canami code canami code is commonly referred to as the contra code and sometimes the 30 lives code is a cheat code that appears in many Konami video games as well as some non -Kanami games.

[2750] The code has also found a place in popular culture as a reference to the third generation of video game consoles and is present as an Easter egg on a number of websites.

[2751] In the original code, the player has to press the following sequence of buttons on the game controller to enable a cheat or other effects.

[2752] This is up, up, down, down, left -right, left -right, B -A.

[2753] Sometimes start and select is added to the sequence.

[2754] Oh, wow.

[2755] My contra code was definitely ABBA, but maybe just the AB's what triggered it and the BA was auxiliary and not necessary.

[2756] And then I would hit select.

[2757] What a...

[2758] The first time you do that, it's unreal.

[2759] You've been playing this game.

[2760] You can't get through it.

[2761] You have three lives.

[2762] Hit that code and you're like, oh, I can breathe.

[2763] Eddie Murphy was on S &L 19.

[2764] That's crazy.

[2765] That is crazy.

[2766] Um, also, yeah, so Matt Damon was doing born during the Avatar ask.

[2767] Okay.

[2768] So if you would have had to leave them.

[2769] Okay.

[2770] He just has too much integrity.

[2771] My God.

[2772] Okay, Dietrich Furs.

[2773] Dietrich Furs.

[2774] Yeah, it's still working.

[2775] It's still up and running.

[2776] It's still up and running the website.

[2777] Michigan's only.

[2778] It's since 1893.

[2779] That's pretty.

[2780] awesome yeah legendary warmth they're going to be having their 150th anniversary here in a sec they're older than ford it's pretty cool so as so far as furs are cool i mean it's cool to have a business that lasts that long absolutely also real quick we talked about veep and we shot baby director on the veep set oh yeah we went to the veep set because morgan was working on it yeah Yeah.

[2781] Which is really fun.

[2782] Yeah, like the president's room.

[2783] Yeah, the oval office.

[2784] The oval office.

[2785] She was the president for a second.

[2786] I'd love to dust that off.

[2787] See that little baby?

[2788] Well, he talked about auditioning for the CBS Showcase.

[2789] I also did that.

[2790] Yeah, I did it too.

[2791] And it was when you come back and you have to do an Indian character.

[2792] Oh.

[2793] And an accent.

[2794] Oh.

[2795] What year was that?

[2796] Fuck you.

[2797] Fuck you, girl.

[2798] Fuck you, Steve DeCastro.

[2799] Fuck you, Cedar Point.

[2800] It would have been, God, I guess it would have been 2011 or 12 -ish, probably.

[2801] Okay.

[2802] Mine might have been the ABC Showcase.

[2803] I'm not sure.

[2804] It was one of the network showcases.

[2805] I got to just do, because they came to the groundlings and saw me and then invited me to do it.

[2806] I'd got to just do a sketch that Josh and I had that had been running for a long time.

[2807] Oh, that's fun.

[2808] Yeah.

[2809] It was very fun.

[2810] Because I was the only one in there that did something that I had written.

[2811] Yeah.

[2812] Took great pride in that.

[2813] I didn't get anything out of it, but it was fun to be invited.

[2814] It was called Let's Dance.

[2815] And it's two guys, like, at a club, and somehow they're, like, overly macho, and then they're kind of getting into it.

[2816] And then somehow it turns out they both look.

[2817] love to dance with one another.

[2818] Thank God.

[2819] It was great.

[2820] It was probably the best one we ever wrote.

[2821] All right.

[2822] Well, that's it for Sam.

[2823] What a nice boy.

[2824] Love him.

[2825] Great time.

[2826] Yeah, he's so fucking funny.

[2827] He really is.

[2828] I can't wait to keep watching him.

[2829] All right.

[2830] Love you.

[2831] Love you.