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[13] This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
[14] Izzy Gutierrez is in with us today.
[15] Did that go out on air?
[16] Chris Cody?
[17] Is that where we started today with...
[18] That was a call back to yesterday's show.
[19] We had so many things happen yesterday.
[20] Let's do it again today.
[21] Let's just keep doing that.
[22] It's always fun.
[23] One of my favorite things is right out of the gate when we just trip and fall on our face.
[24] Just what I needed.
[25] Somebody has written in here.
[26] Dan's unique talent is to make me want to disagree with him about something he supports strictly because of how obnoxious and whiny he sounds delivering it.
[27] Kicker is that most of the time I already agree with him.
[28] I do think that's my unique talent.
[29] I do believe that that talent is something I have more than any other talent.
[30] Make people who agree with you, disagree with you?
[31] Right, right.
[32] Just because of tone and not even the substance of what I'm saying, it's just my face.
[33] It's a Jedi mind trick.
[34] It's just the levitard one.
[35] This is also fair criticism, I think.
[36] Dan is wild.
[37] I don't think he's ever just said, I was wrong, without some elaborate explanation as to why he actually wasn't wrong.
[38] Everyone else is just too simple to understand his deepest of thought processes.
[39] I believe that's also correct.
[40] It is.
[41] What do you mean you believe?
[42] Well, I'm not sure.
[43] To say that it's correct would be to admit I'm wrong.
[44] You confirming it doesn't prove anything.
[45] Do a lot of, oh, I'm sorry, that's not what I meant.
[46] This is what I meant.
[47] That's correct.
[48] The part that you think is wrong, that's not what I meant.
[49] I just meant the parts that you think are right.
[50] But I did want to talk about something to start the show here today because I'm always talking about the fact that I think that sports media coverage cruelty makes it so that it's very hard to simply celebrate greatness in sports conversationally.
[51] And what I wanted to talk about as it relates to Simone Biles is something that happened with me watching her that I was legitimately surprised happened to me, which I had a hiccup of breathlessness, my breath taken away from when she lands, the way that she lands, because I realize I'm watching something that goes beyond where I thought human limits used to be.
[52] And when she hits in that corner without taking a step, that the sound...
[53] Yes.
[54] Summends something in me. A hiccup.
[55] A hiccup of my breath taken away.
[56] And so I know there are times in sports all over sports.
[57] A goal horn, a moment of drama.
[58] Hell.
[59] The rugby result yesterday where the last play of the game.
[60] game, you're winning the game.
[61] There are all sorts of things that happen all the time in sports that are like that.
[62] But I wanted to ask the group, where in sports do you find the things like that that are celebratory in nature and test human limits or what you think about human limits so much that your breath is literally taken away in the moment of what it is that you're witnessing because you're like, how does a human being do that?
[63] That is well beyond anything I've been able to see a human being ever do.
[64] And how is that human being do something so much better than everyone else who was working just as hard as she is at what it is they do?
[65] Who's ever done it, those two got you.
[66] You think you know something.
[67] No one, we're not experts.
[68] I watched that floor exercise last night.
[69] That's the stuff that takes your breath away, but there have been some stuff online recently where they've had actual like D1 gymnast, just try to do a move that she does, like that spin, like crouch down move.
[70] I forget what it's called on the balance beam.
[71] And they can't do it one time.
[72] She does it three times.
[73] Meanwhile, you're talking about her landing, like, perfectly on a move named after her.
[74] Yeah, it's breathtaking.
[75] Call me old school, but a 104 mile an hour fastball still gets me going.
[76] You've been struggling with the speaking lately.
[77] What's going on with you?
[78] I'm just saying more words, maybe.
[79] I mean, this is me. It's that me and Chris do a bit of a ping pong match where we'll all, like, missay words, right?
[80] And then he'll look back at me, and then I'll look back at him, and I'll say something like, ah, got you.
[81] I mean, Tris is human.
[82] What'd you say?
[83] A 104 mile an hour fastball.
[84] I feel like I stumbled on like one little word in there.
[85] It was pretty clear what I said.
[86] So you see a 104 mile hour fastball and you go, Hickup?
[87] Like Dan last night.
[88] You sure you just didn't have the hiccups.
[89] Like this is a whole segment built on a little gas.
[90] I wasn't left breathless because I realized that I had to save my breath for a more pressure -filled competition.
[91] The U .S. entered that metal round.
[92] in the team gymnastics final, a minus 1 ,300 favorite to win the goal.
[93] In fact, if you watch her routines, for her, which is, I mean, the curve that she's established, she played it kind of safe.
[94] Yes, the difficulty level, especially with the floor exercise, is way up there.
[95] But if she'll step out of bounds or she won't get as much height, like, these are things that she was playing a little bit more safe with her routines with.
[96] They had the goal wrapped up.
[97] So, like, there was an interesting moment in which when she was on the, floor, because we all know what's hovering over all of this is the pressure and what happened at the previous Olympics, there was a moment where she just basically has to avoid a total disaster and they win the gold, but all the other rotations stopped and all eyes were on her.
[98] And it took something that already has a fair amount of pressure, just made it way more tense.
[99] But for me, I'm saving my breath for like the all around the individual competitions because the competition is going to be so much more heightened and the pressure will correspond with that.
[100] They talked about it.
[101] Her and Jordan Childs talked about when they knew they won the gold and that was when Simone hit her vault because that was when they were like, oh, okay, we're not going to have flashbacks to Japan, she's going to be okay.
[102] And that's all she has to be is okay and they're still going to win.
[103] I don't know if any of you guys watched the latest documentary with her on Netflix.
[104] I liked it.
[105] I thought it was...
[106] I'm watching the Peacock one.
[107] Okay, okay.
[108] This one, it's very much like, you the sprinter one, the receiver one, it's all sort of cookie cutter.
[109] But this one, the thing that got me about Simone Biles is I always thought of her as this perfect, like athletic robot, like this princess.
[110] Because obviously they started such a young age in gymnastics, and she has been so good, almost robotic in how good she is.
[111] This humanized her in a way that made me say, oh, wow, like I'm going to feel the pressure for her more than I did back before I knew her.
[112] Because I thought she was just, again, this freak of nature who can do this at a moment.
[113] Even after her bailing on the last time we saw her have to deal with pressures of this kind and saying I'm not going to do that, I feel like I'm going to get physically hurt.
[114] It felt to me like a computer glitch, that, especially because there was no fans, everything was different, and so it probably felt different to her.
[115] And I was like, oh, okay, they'll reprogram her, she'll be fine.
[116] But then watching that and seeing just the lack of confidence that comes up even when she was younger, even when she knows that she's the best in the world, that is just hard to fathom when you're as good as she is.
[117] But yeah, it humanized her in a way that made me feel a lot more pressure for her in these games.
[118] It was kind of a relaxing experience to watch to know that they kind of had it locked up because I have a strange amount of connection points as a 38 -year -old white Hispanic male who can't do anything near what she can do, but was in front of microphones, was defending her, was someone that suffered with performance anxiety and self -doubt and panic and all.
[119] all that stuff.
[120] So I was already locked in and fully invested, but also as someone that has provided all that context, just an admirer of the competition, peak athletics, and actually conquering your demons, I reserve my breath for what's to come later on.
[121] And I wasn't totally blown away by it because she had to play it safe and it was a team competition.
[122] The rules are totally different.
[123] But the team competition to me, and I'm curious what Jess thinks about this, is because you mentioned your age.
[124] And so to me, like I came up with, you know, Mary Lorette, and I mentioned it yesterday, and how difficult it was for the U .S. women to breach the top.
[125] And now that they've stayed there for such a long time, something of a gymnastics dynasty, if you will, Jess, how do you see that?
[126] Because I've always seen as so stressful, so difficult, and that this team has overcome so much, whereas now it just feels like kind of a cakewalk.
[127] Yeah, I wouldn't, I would say that this team is definitely peerless, I guess you could say.
[128] They won by six points, and then I think the bronze was another seven points behind that.
[129] So they really didn't have much competition, but you still have to go out there and actually perform and do it, which that in itself takes so much strength.
[130] And especially given all of the horrible scandals in U .S. gymnastics over the last 10 years, just knowing that these are athletes that have been through that and have seen the really ugly side of gymnastics.
[131] gymnastics too.
[132] I don't really take anything for granted with them.
[133] I think everything that these athletes have accomplished should get the most praise because of how difficult the road has been.
[134] And just even how difficult the sport really is to compete in, it's so hard.
[135] I mean, these are athletes that start competing at such a young age.
[136] And it just, I can't even imagine how difficult it must be to go through it.
[137] And then to ultimately win gold, it must feel so cathartic especially.
[138] I'm glad it still feels that way.
[139] Just waiting.
[140] For me, for somebody who's been watching them as so great for so long, I thought that maybe you'd take it for granted.
[141] No, I'm glad you don't feel that way.
[142] Definitely not.
[143] And especially because there were former gymnasts that were formerly competing for the U .S. that did make negative comments about this team that these gold medal winners heard and internalized and then kind of threw back at in their faces.
[144] I thought that that was another really nice way to end it to.
[145] Given what she dealt with and all the other people that don't follow the sport whatsoever, forcing their takes, and it became something that spiraled into just a mass scandal.
[146] I much like kind of Megan Rapino with the pressure with the World Cup because there was all sorts of political stuff going around her.
[147] I wanted her to reach the top to shut everybody up.
[148] And for Simone, I want her to have a situation which she's challenged where everyone can acknowledge, wow, how is she going to do this?
[149] Not only is everyone bringing their game, but she also has to battle herself in this moment, her own, her physical and mental, she has to overcome all of that.
[150] And I kind of want to see those moments play out as an admirer of her, mire of the amazing things these people can do that I have zero connection point to I want to see that You heard their team name right Why is this music playing right now?
[151] It's our Olympic music Golden Girls But what are we doing Is it golden girls?
[152] That is what she said was the official thing It wasn't it F around and find out Is it I?
[153] This segment needs a bed That's what I was thinking midway through Yeah Well at least it's not a dangerous topic Kind of like have a bed Interrupt you in the middle of your take Because everyone's being We're talking about like mental health.
[154] Talking about Olympics.
[155] Did someone say dynasty?
[156] I didn't hear anything else, but I did hear dynasty.
[157] Was there dynasty talk?
[158] There's a dynasty.
[159] Really?
[160] The women's dynasty.
[161] Wow, I love a good dynasty.
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[174] Don Lebertard.
[175] Punguate this segment with what is your strike three call.
[176] Strike one would be strike and then you stand up and you give a good point to the right.
[177] Stugats.
[178] That's same for strike two.
[179] But strike three you get down low.
[180] You got your hands behind the catcher.
[181] All right arm goes up into the air And then you finish it with the punch The right arm flings way up into the air Ha!
[182] I wish I could see that.
[183] It's their audio's great.
[184] This is the Dan LeBatar show with the Stugat.
[185] I have in front of me here some Cody criticism that is coming fast and hard from yesterday, not Chris Cody.
[186] Greg Cody I get the show but listening to Greg Cody who has never been the best columnist at his own newspaper complain about the U .S. gymnastics team celebrating third place had me the closest I've ever been to want wanting to punch an elderly man I've thrown three punches in my entire life I also got a text from a friend of mine who used to be a gymnast and he wrote I'm two seconds into your first hour and I bleeping want to kill Greg Cody for shitting on my men's gymnastics team Stugats can go bleep off as well.
[187] What did I do?
[188] It's the hardest sport in the world, Sands Wrestling, and those guys went 18 for 18 and hit routines.
[189] It was a magical night and Stugats and Cody shit all over it because they finished in third place.
[190] What do you mean?
[191] What did you do?
[192] They were good, just not good enough.
[193] I mean, I'm sorry.
[194] The ultimate Cody sequel would have been if he came in today and said that the U .S. women's team didn't celebrate enough.
[195] They should have celebrated more because they got gold.
[196] I would have loved to hear his take on the U .S. women's rugby team, who won bronze on a walk -off, and apparently we're supposed to celebrate with handshakes, according to Greg Cody.
[197] That's correct.
[198] Tony, at some point today, I am going to send you into Miami with prizes for people on the street anyone who can name a single Marlin.
[199] Anyone right now, a single current Marlin because the Marlin payroll is now under $14 million.
[200] They've traded every player.
[201] They are paying no one more than $2 .1 million.
[202] We could just do that in the studio.
[203] I don't know if I could name one right now.
[204] I'm curious if Tony dresses in preparation to be thrown out onto the street every day because it feels like you get tossed out quite off.
[205] Just in case, the only issue I have with that, Dan, is if they tell me somebody, I don't know whether to confirm, like, if they're a Marlin, too, so like I need somebody there with me to help.
[206] You've got to have a roster.
[207] Jokes on you.
[208] Jokes on you.
[209] The Bally's blackout meant that I didn't know anybody's name before the deadline.
[210] All you have to do is have a roster, Tony, a printed roster.
[211] I know, though, now this happened to me the other day on Pablo Tori finds out because I was using physical paper in my hand, Mina and Pablo were making fun of me for using physical paper in my hand.
[212] So you don't even have to print out a roster, I suppose.
[213] It's on your phone?
[214] You can just have it on your phone.
[215] Yeah, but you know me, I like to have my...
[216] hands loose.
[217] I like to have the mic making things happen.
[218] So I need somebody else to hold it for me. If you were to count just guessing around the room, the total number of punches thrown by people in this studio, what would you say that number?
[219] Because I had this thought the other day.
[220] I think Dan is the leader.
[221] I've been in one fight.
[222] I don't think I actually threw a punch.
[223] Hang on.
[224] Does anyone else have a sister?
[225] Because I think that puts me head and shoulders about the rest of you.
[226] Well, I do, but I didn't punch them.
[227] I had a fight where all I did was throw one kick.
[228] So not a punch.
[229] No, I've thrown punches in a fight before.
[230] too.
[231] Like a Mosvidal?
[232] But like, yeah, yeah.
[233] You know, I knocked the wind out of some dude in elementary.
[234] Ironically enough, his name was also Mike Ruiz.
[235] Wow.
[236] Yeah.
[237] Just a kick, though?
[238] Was it like...
[239] Yeah, I was a, you know, it was a blackbell and Kempel?
[240] A couple of Mike Ruiz's.
[241] Dund it up.
[242] Kicking it up, he charged me. He was so was a front kick?
[243] No, no, it was just like a little sidekick.
[244] I put a little something on and he knocked the wind out of them.
[245] Boom.
[246] By it done.
[247] The king of the Mike Ruizes.
[248] You guys were, you guys were.
[249] That's what we were fighting about.
[250] Making fun of me because of the hiccup of the breath taken away.
[251] But only Chris Cody gave me something that actually produced that feeling for him of awe in sports.
[252] Because the reason I bring it up, right, I was making fun of Stugats and Cody yesterday for being so hardened about having seen so much sports that they can't muster enthusiasm for a third place finish in the Olympics because it's not good enough for them.
[253] because they've just, they're world weary about sports.
[254] The same can be said of me. And I'm surprised that it snuck up on me that way because I know what I'm watching.
[255] I know the greatness I'm watching.
[256] I know that this has no precedent.
[257] What this, she's older than a girl now, right?
[258] She's married.
[259] She's 27.
[260] So, yeah, but yeah, okay, sorry.
[261] So I didn't know.
[262] I know it's easy to do that, especially in that sport.
[263] but there's a 33 -year -old Brazilian gymnast now, much like sports medicine and science has advanced in other sports.
[264] It's happening in gymnastics as well, and you're seeing much older athletes than you used to.
[265] There's a 39 -year -old who's leading our basketball team.
[266] He's playing great.
[267] He's playing as well as he's ever played.
[268] I'm starting to wonder if he's going to play in the L .A. games.
[269] Seriously.
[270] Four years from now.
[271] He's already said he's not going.
[272] That's what he says now.
[273] We'll see what happens.
[274] L .A. is hometown.
[275] Keep the door open.
[276] We'll say you get Ronnie on the team.
[277] I mean, how about that?
[278] Wow, that would be quite the accomplice fit.
[279] Not just get them into the NBA, but get them on through the Olympic team.
[280] Over J. Lambrown.
[281] Over Jason Tatum.
[282] Chris Cody, do you have for me the sound of you trying to say 104 miles per hour?
[283] Yep, right here.
[284] Must feel so cathartic, especially.
[285] That is not right.
[286] hiccuping like Dan last night.
[287] You don't have, then, the sound of you.
[288] All right, I have it.
[289] 104 mile an hour fastball.
[290] You screw up mile an hour one time and you can't talk.
[291] It's a tough one.
[292] I don't think it's a ridiculous thing to say or experience.
[293] Sports take my breath away all the time, but it just, I guess it was just so academic for them to win the goal that I couldn't bring myself there.
[294] You want to see her in pressure moments, right?
[295] But you're saying you'll get that in the individuals.
[296] It's kind of weird because I do, but I don't.
[297] Like I don't want to see her tested that way, but I want her to shut everybody up.
[298] It's kind of weird.
[299] Like if it does bring up a performance anxiety and she has to overcome that and she succeeds, that's amazing.
[300] If it becomes too much for her, I don't think anybody wants to see that or have those conversations again.
[301] So I don't know.
[302] Here's what I'm rooting for.
[303] Her to do awesome.
[304] Her to overcome everything.
[305] Yeah, but for her to be challenged?
[306] No, no, no. I want her to be challenged.
[307] I want the pressure to be there.
[308] I feel like that was like from the Olympics four years ago.
[309] I'm hearing like some like Asian influence here.
[310] It's very distracting.
[311] Mike, I think her challenge is going to be now just being in the individual competition and not having the support of her teammates, not knowing that, hey, my first two teammates nailed their routine.
[312] I just have to be average and will be good.
[313] she's got to be probably at about 90 % to win the all -around for her comfortably.
[314] And that means, you know, one fall on the balance beam, one sort of tweak of her calf on the floor, and maybe she doesn't do, you know, that first run to completion.
[315] So I think there's definitely pressure on her now a little bit different, but I think that team competition really settled her.
[316] Don't you guys think she wants that pressure?
[317] She wants to challenge yourself?
[318] She's one of the great athletes we've ever seen.
[319] Yeah, she's saying all the right things.
[320] She seems she can overcome it, right?
[321] If you've watched any of the content around it in any of her interviews, she's saying all the right things, and she's excelling in her field of play.
[322] But she's not overconfident.
[323] She's not selling herself as like this NFL.
[324] Like, I'm the best receiver in the league.
[325] She's being honest, and that's what I love.
[326] That's what I feel like I learned from her in that Netflix doc that I feel is continually coming true now.
[327] She is just not the perfect human being, the perfect athlete.
[328] She's got things to overcome as well.
[329] Yeah, and it's a unique prism to have the conversation about performances.
[330] and athletics too because everyone would acknowledge she's the best like it's it you can understand if someone's chasing simone like why they're feeling performance anxiety but it's a it was really difficult the last time we had these conversations for people to wrap their head around her specifically feeling performance anxiety and that's why you had a lot of people coding what she was doing is quitting it's not just that she's the best it's that now that serena williams is retired.
[331] I'm trying to think around sports where I find someone who's that much better than anyone around them anywhere.
[332] Like a level of dominance where...
[333] Eja Wilson this season?
[334] Yeah.
[335] She's playing insane.
[336] In the U .S. women's basketball team, they won on Monday against...
[337] Was it Monday or Sunday?
[338] I can't remember.
[339] Against Japan.
[340] Not their best shooting day.
[341] I had like two, three -pointers.
[342] Still won by 26 points.
[343] It doesn't matter who's shooting around you if you have Asia Woolson and Brianna Stewart.
[344] I think Shaq felt that level of dominance when he was at his peak, more so than LeBron, just because of his size.
[345] I think Mahomes does right now.
[346] That's a great one.
[347] Yeah.
[348] Mooms.
[349] It's funny that you should say Mahomes because I'm not sure Mahomes would say that when the playoffs started last year, like given the problems that, like, you were doubting.
[350] You were very loudly doubting Mahomes, and this incarnation, that incarnation of the team was the weakest in the last five years.
[351] and the most doubted we've seen in the last five years.
[352] I would assume if Simone Biles can be subject to doubt that Patrick Mahomes, too, in that spot could be subject to doubt.
[353] I think McDavid flashes it to where he does things that no one else can do.
[354] It's harder to stick out in a team sport because there's so many variables.
[355] I don't think Mahomes is any less excellent if his team falls short against a very good San Francisco 49er team.
[356] I think I'd apply the context of the limitations of the receiving, core, and whatnot and struggling to bring them online.
[357] it's a lot easier in solo sports.
[358] If a golfer's locked in, oh, I see that with Sheffler.
[359] In combat sports, you see it manifest physically, mono on mono.
[360] If you have a pound -for -pound MMA fighter or boxer that's just dominant, you can understand it because it's easier because there's no one else that's mudding things up.
[361] If Simone comes back in the States for the next Olympics and wins all gold and maybe even gets a picture that Dan loves holding the flag as the flag bearer, she's going to be the next LeBron.
[362] That is the type of thing that's untouchable.
[363] She's already feels like it's untouchable.
[364] Right.
[365] But imagine at 31, a gymnast at 31 years old, participating and winning some level of gold or some form of goals, whether it be team or individual.
[366] That would be something that I just don't know if anybody can touch.
[367] McDavid is a great one because of how rare the thing I'm talking about is you're watching all of these other people do the same thing.
[368] at the same time and you're looking at one of them and saying, this one is just so much more athletically gifted.
[369] He stands out.
[370] He's one of the best skaters on the planet.
[371] Not a good skater for hockey.
[372] Like a great skater for humans.
[373] But Simone Biles' athleticism and the height that she gets on things where you're like, how is any of that possible?
[374] Mahomes does something like that with some of the trick plays.
[375] Dan, he takes something that we all know to be very difficult and makes it look fairly easy.
[376] Like win two Super Bowls with Cadarius Tony.
[377] Understood.
[378] But Josh Allen has better arm strength.
[379] Like, it's, it has something that you're watching.
[380] Debatable.
[381] Let's put that on T &D right now.
[382] I'm taking a home's against.
[383] Wow, Josh Allen is the guy.
[384] Put it on the poll at Levin's on show.
[385] Stephen Morris.
[386] Janet Cannon.
[387] Mike is right.
[388] You had to be there.
[389] It wasn't accurate, but he had a cat.
[390] You had to be there.
[391] It's probably going to run back for 60 other way.
[392] All right.
[393] Put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard Show.
[394] Better arm strength.
[395] Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, or Stephen Morris.
[396] Oh, man. I thought he was going to be so good.
[397] A couple of coin tosses.
[398] Go ahead and put that on the poll.
[399] Also put on the poll, does rugby seem like a sport that was made up by bouncers at Lebitard show?
[400] Because every time I'm watching that, I'm like, What's everyone out there doing?
[401] Sevens is crazy.
[402] They are just running full speed the entire time.
[403] I don't really understand what's happening, but it is like shocking every time I watch it.
[404] Someone has explained it to me several times how it's safer than tap it.
[405] I've been watching it with my boyfriend who played rugby and he's explaining it to me and I still don't know what's going on.
[406] But before we close the loop on Simone Biles, like I don't think it can be overstated how much she's changed gymnastics.
[407] Like she has transformed the entire sport and she has transformed U .S. gymnastics in particular.
[408] So regardless of how she does in the individual events or in the all around or if she comes back in four years to compete, she has already left her mark on the sport and on fans.
[409] And like there's really no accomplishment that she needs to now complete to have her name as the like predominant name in the legacy of US gymnastics forever.
[410] Oh, but she's got to win.
[411] But she already has.
[412] Yeah.
[413] Yep, but she's got to win more.
[414] Like this is bad a boy.
[415] But no, she doesn't really, though.
[416] Like, she's already become the Michael Phelps.
[417] Like, did Michael Phelps have to win at the tail end of his Olympic run?
[418] Like, I think that that's the barometer.
[419] At her peak, like, she was unbeatable.
[420] I agree with everything Jessica is saying.
[421] And if she loses, it will be crushing for all people involved to celebrate her.
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[437] Don Lebertard.
[438] Sports.
[439] Stugats.
[440] More sports?
[441] This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.
[442] What were you saying about a Canon Club?
[443] There's a website called CanonClub .com, NFL's greatest arms.
[444] I have their rankings.
[445] They have Mahomes number one.
[446] They have Josh Allen number two.
[447] They have four three all time.
[448] Stephen Morris, not on the list.
[449] It's a Canon Club.
[450] You guys are very comfortable saying that Mahomes has better arm strength than Josh Allen, and I thought it was just an understood consensus that Josh Allen has the biggest arm in the sport.
[451] I didn't think that was even something up for debate, and it's no knock on the arm of Mahomes, obviously, but I just simply assumed that no one can throw the ball harder and farther than Josh Allen.
[452] Yes.
[453] All right, you know what?
[454] Clip it.
[455] Minor penalty, two minutes.
[456] Stumbling.
[457] Michael Vick threw a ball out of a stadium.
[458] Do you forget that?
[459] Do you forget that?
[460] I bought that up the other day.
[461] I was thinking that Michael Vick had the greatest arm that I'd ever seen.
[462] It wasn't accurate, but he had a cannon.
[463] Best lefty arm?
[464] Vinny had a cannon, too.
[465] Is it me or does Lamar Jackson look like he flings it like a frisbee?
[466] Like if he really let it go, he could toss it 70 yards if you want to do.
[467] He's like one of those guys.
[468] He doesn't have, like, he looks like he would have arm troubles.
[469] They need to bring that competition back.
[470] I miss the old quarterback club.
[471] And the pants.
[472] Bring that back.
[473] Zubaz.
[474] Wait, Mike, what was it?
[475] Like, refresh me here on quarterback.
[476] It would be during the Pro Bowl.
[477] They would make just a specific TV special that would air on ESPN.
[478] Like, if you got home early from school one day, you would see Jim Harbaugh throwing a football that had blue powder at the end of it, at a bullseye driven by like some dude in a golf cart.
[479] That was the best.
[480] It really was.
[481] That's how you could tell Dan Marino was the most talented quarterback just by the way he walked around those other guys.
[482] He knew he had the cannon.
[483] It was like Larry Bird in the three -point contest.
[484] The quarterback club went away in the late 90s.
[485] They need to bring that subdivision of the NFLPA back.
[486] Just redo the posters of the quarterback club, all wearing like Zubahs and jackets.
[487] The throwback hats.
[488] God, do that.
[489] Cornback club.
[490] Homes could never throw it out of the stadium like Vic did.
[491] So wait, just to be clear, that was a power aid commercial.
[492] Was it not?
[493] No, it's real.
[494] This was real.
[495] Oh, okay.
[496] They're completely out of the stadium.
[497] So you're saying Mahomes could never do that?
[498] They're saying here on cannon club .com that Mahomes has thrown a football 85 yards.
[499] Allen 80 yards.
[500] I don't know if that's the way you measure who has the best arm, but I guess it is, right?
[501] It seems like a pretty good way to measure it.
[502] How would you gauge it?
[503] By literally measuring it.
[504] The size of their arms.
[505] Will Levis, to me, Canon.
[506] If you squint.
[507] So if you throw it harder but shorter distance, you have a bigger cannon than if you throw it farther?
[508] I think distance is the key, no?
[509] Well, I think distance, the key is can you put some touch on the ball?
[510] Do you get a running start?
[511] Is this?
[512] The rule should be three...
[513] Five step.
[514] Yeah, five step.
[515] I'm breaking down arms.
[516] And just like one step in the throw.
[517] You can't get a running start.
[518] That's for a different competition.
[519] Kyle Bowler threw from the 50 -yard line on his knee over into the goalpost, past the goalpost.
[520] Different competition.
[521] It is.
[522] That's a good arch shot.
[523] Stand still.
[524] All right.
[525] That's a name, though, for the quarterback club.
[526] Kyle Bowler, very tail end.
[527] and you could kind of recognize.
[528] I mean, you can throw it into the field goal post.
[529] Like, come on.
[530] What's wrong with the Cannon Club?
[531] Hey, Dan.
[532] Hey, Dan.
[533] I wanted to get back to something that happened with Stugats yesterday when we were talking about this competition, show Olympics that we're doing, and somehow, and I don't know how this happened exactly, I've been ensnared in the swimming portion of the competition.
[534] But when I left the show yesterday, it actually, it made me laugh, this idea that I neglected to see when we were talking about it.
[535] In the spirit of Stugats and Greg Cody always overestimate their own abilities and underestimate the abilities of great athletes, Stugats actually said the key to our race is he and I getting to the wall and spinning and going the other way.
[536] And I'm like, you think we're actually going to speed up and do that well?
[537] You think that that's something that you and I are going to do well.
[538] Are you even going to know when the wall is approaching?
[539] That is correct.
[540] My eyes are going to be closed.
[541] I'm going to be holding my nose swimming with one arm.
[542] I had the same thought, to be fair, because like the moves that they do to turn and then push off the wall, they're very choreograph.
[543] It's the hardest thing in sports.
[544] It's probably one of the hardest things.
[545] Other than the butterfly looks terrible.
[546] I would never want to do that one.
[547] Seriously, it's so slow.
[548] It looks so awful to do.
[549] other stroke, fine.
[550] You could sell me on the backstroke.
[551] You could sell me on the freestyle.
[552] I don't know how they do the butterfly.
[553] I don't want to be stroking it that way.
[554] You guys aren't going to believe what just happened in here.
[555] He pantomimed the butterfly stroke and then muttered owl under his breath because he's been complaining about his arm for about two weeks saying he's got some sort of pain that makes me think that he it scared me a couple of times that his arm hurts this much because arm pain can suggest in people of our age some heart difficulties.
[556] The ticker is doing just fine just fine.
[557] We may have to cancel this swim meet though.
[558] I mean, didn't they also say they could get a point?
[559] Greg Cody said a point off of a Olympic ping pong player.
[560] Stugat said that he could do that.
[561] I did.
[562] Yeah, a little slice back end.
[563] I mean, you wouldn't touch the guy I was watching this morning.
[564] Oh my God.
[565] His surf was crazy.
[566] Jessica, not anybody.
[567] He cannot get a point of anybody who's winning an Olympic gold medal.
[568] We said that the last time And then the 6 -11 tennis guy whose name is escaping me right now.
[569] Riley O 'Pelka.
[570] Riley O 'Pelka.
[571] I returned to serve.
[572] With a cigarette in his mouth.
[573] Yeah.
[574] He's not an Olympic medalist last time I checked.
[575] Although he's on the comeback trail and he looked good.
[576] Really?
[577] Yeah, he was out for basically two years.
[578] Bad injuries.
[579] Way to go still.
[580] I took care of him.
[581] You ruined him.
[582] You keep saying you returned to serve.
[583] Did you actually play the point out?
[584] Because you're talking about winning a point.
[585] I returned the serve.
[586] He hit it back.
[587] I hit it into the net.
[588] All right.
[589] Point over.
[590] Yeah.
[591] Yes.
[592] When are we ever going to do, he thinks he can make six or seven penalty shots against an MLS goalkeeper?
[593] I'll let him do it against Mike and not get six or seven.
[594] Is the goalie allowed to drone scout where the kicks are going like Canada has been?
[595] I don't telegraph.
[596] I mean, I can tell you that much.
[597] I look one way.
[598] I kick the other way.
[599] I mean, you'll say, that's the telegraphs, too.
[600] Listen, just don't tell the goalie.
[601] That's a note that I have on my water bottle.
[602] Looks one way, it goes the other So if the goalie is listening He'll think that I'm looking one way And shooting another way But I will look the way and then shoot that way Now I've got to start off I'm sure he's never dealt with that Can we We have a basketball court Here in the Elser Is there anything Do you want to give us any of your Basketball bragging that you've Anything you can do That we can actually test during the show Because we've been wanting to do This goalkeeper challenge For about 10 years, we actually had it set it up a couple times.
[603] Stugats didn't show up.
[604] We had people willing to do it.
[605] Is there anything basketball related that we can test during the show today that you would be willing to say that you can do that I don't think you can do?
[606] I mean, I'm open to anything.
[607] I will tell you that no one has hit more threes in the history of Long Island basketball than me. So if you want to send me out there, if there's a three -point stripe, I will go out there, Dan.
[608] And if you give me 20 shots, I'm guessing I had 10, you know?
[609] 50%.
[610] This was a very...
[611] College three, by the way.
[612] Are you being defended?
[613] This was a very easy thing to look up and prove false, which it has been several years with this lie.
[614] Yes, this lie is not in any way true.
[615] You had my coach on.
[616] You made six and a half threes?
[617] I had six in one half.
[618] It's a record.
[619] You had Steve Shackle on, my coach, Coach Shackle, Shack.
[620] I love him.
[621] You had him on to verify it, and he did.
[622] I mean, he said I had a sweet Jay.
[623] You guys were all there for it.
[624] Mike was there, Chris was there, you were there.
[625] Was a record.
[626] At the time.
[627] Chris, can we please find, I don't know if it was the first year of Long Island basketball, the first year in the history of Long Island basketball, first game played in the history of Long Island basketball?
[628] Can we find out if they can get us in the gym here so that we can just see Stugat's at some point during the show, post -game show, take 20 shots.
[629] I don't think he's going to make 10.
[630] 50 % from three.
[631] Yes, that's what he said.
[632] You delivered on the free throw challenge that we did at the heat facility across the street not too long ago.
[633] I took 100, right?
[634] And you made more than he missed?
[635] I did, yeah.
[636] That was a bit.
[637] I made like 60 something, yes.
[638] Yeah.
[639] That's right, Jessica.
[640] You should be unimpressed by that.
[641] Yes.
[642] It's wildly unimpressed.
[643] But for him, and where the bar was, he cleared it.
[644] it was running he says he did do some running beforehand so he could do that hard thing because i did this easier thing yeah one time all right we will test this at some point during the show today uh do you guys have any thoughts because i have not talked about this uh charles barclay put out a statement uh and talked a little bit with dan patrick about uh saying they're going to give everything they have next year but it would appear that's going to be the last year of that show in certainly on that network, but in its entirety, I wouldn't bet on that show being back and just being purchased by someone else.
[645] So what do you guys think is going to end up happening there?
[646] Barclay does seem a little less strident about retiring.
[647] In the same interview, we kind of let it slip that they've already started talking to other networks.
[648] So like we said previously.
[649] As a show, Mike.
[650] Like we said previously, it's not going to be the same show if Ernie's not there.
[651] Charles has been talking about, again, I don't know if I believe that Ernie wouldn't be there because you can just all these people in that statement, he was very careful to say, look at how much money they have because they can just buy the entire concept if they're out there.
[652] Charles has been talking about retirement for 15 years and he always takes some money.
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