MFM Minisode 131 - The Worst

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] This is my favorite murder.

[2] Mini -sode, hometown minisode.

[3] It's a minisode, guys.

[4] So don't get involved.

[5] Keep it light.

[6] Yeah.

[7] And get ready to move on quickly.

[8] Don't, if you're on like a quick treadmill run or you have like a quick commute.

[9] Or someone's telling you a boring story, you can just throw in an airbud.

[10] Yep.

[11] And just real quick, listen to some murder stories.

[12] Okay.

[13] These are ones that you guys have sent into my favorite murder at Gmail that I'm going to read to Karen.

[14] Awesome.

[15] Yeah, I haven't read these.

[16] Okay.

[17] So these will be a fun surprise.

[18] Yeah.

[19] Let's see here.

[20] This one is called...

[21] I can't reach you the name of the thing, but...

[22] Karen, Georgia, Stephen, and various animals.

[23] I just finished listening to Minnesota 83, where you ask for secret life reveals, and my friends have been begging me to send this story in, so here we go.

[24] Back in the 70s, my parents were in a bowling league.

[25] Over the years, you get to know other people in the league, and you all become friends, acquaintances, whatever.

[26] One of their friends always invited my dad to come over for taco parties, but he never went.

[27] I don't know why all the, it's like, mm -mm.

[28] It's just talker parties.

[29] Taco parties, no. Fast forward of it.

[30] And one night, my dad and his friend Sam are at the alley when their friend walks in, acting very animated.

[31] He shakes my dad's hand and puts an arm around Sam and says to them something along the lines of, hey, guys, I don't think I can stay very long because the FBI is following me. They pretty much blew him off thinking he was crazy.

[32] The next day comes, and both of my parents were at the local grocery store they worked at.

[33] They were 18 and 19 years old.

[34] And who walks in that morning, but Sam holding a newspaper?

[35] My mom said that he looked like he saw a ghost.

[36] What's the front page story that day?

[37] Their bowling league friend from the night before had been arrested for multiple murders.

[38] Oh, and who was that guy from the bowling league?

[39] None other than the killer clown himself fucking John Wayne Gacy All caps fucking John Wayne Gacy Oh shit Sam went on To be his defense attorney Oh whoa And Sam and my dad are still friends To this day He wrote a book about it a few years ago And signed a copy for my dad I remember hearing the story from a young age But I never really thought much of it Until I was a teenager And realized who John Wayne Gacy was Doesn't everyone's parents bowl With notorious Syria killers?

[40] No, just mine.

[41] okay anyways that's all I got for now stay sexy and don't join boiling leagues with killer clowns P .S. my dad would like to note that it was De Plains PD following Gacy and not the FBI lull crazy clown wow that just makes me think of it in the I think it was the made for TV movie or could have been the real movie Brian Denehype is playing John Wing Gasey and when it gets to that part where he's just like he's like drunk during the day and driving around and just like trying to avoid the police oh my god like it just made me pick in my in the movie in my mind it was brian denahe walking into that bowling alley yeah hey guys the fias stop off at the bowling alley what if they had gone to his taco party and like been in the house and and then he's like who likes magic tricks down to the basement everybody oh jesus john so insane okay this says the subject line is elmer wayne henley confessed on my granddad's car phone wait Shut up.

[42] Holy shit.

[43] We just did.

[44] We just did fucking Dean Corral.

[45] Yeah.

[46] Coral.

[47] Dean Coral.

[48] Right.

[49] And, oh my God.

[50] Yeah.

[51] Mama, I killed Dean.

[52] Oh, my God.

[53] Yes.

[54] Okay.

[55] Hey, Karen of Georgia.

[56] My family is from a neighborhood just outside of the Heights in Houston.

[57] Yeah.

[58] Garden Oaks.

[59] So I was especially disturbed by this week's story, which is your story he's talking about.

[60] At the time, at the time when the abduct.

[61] were happening.

[62] My dad would have been the same age as a lot of the young boys who were killed.

[63] My granddad, Jack Cato, was also a crime reporter for Channel 2.

[64] In case you know, we're talking about this is the, this is the serial killer Dean Coral, aka the Candy Man. Um, we did it a couple episodes back.

[65] And he is horrifying.

[66] A monster.

[67] He killed 30 something, boys.

[68] 29, some boys, like teenage and younger boys.

[69] Horrifying.

[70] Yeah.

[71] Okay.

[72] So the granddad, Jack Cato is a crime reporter for Channel 2, the local station in the 70s.

[73] So he says, so I couldn't help but wonder if he had covered those murders and how awful that must have been.

[74] Then y 'all got to the confession part and I jumped off the couch, freaking the crap out of my dog.

[75] I have heard this story a million times.

[76] That's because when Elmer Wayne Henley confessed to his mom, Mama, I killed Dean.

[77] He was using my granddad's car phone.

[78] It's in a video you can watch.

[79] Really?

[80] Yeah, on YouTube, there's a video of him doing Oh, it's so good.

[81] Okay.

[82] My granddad died in 2006 when I was a senior in high school.

[83] This was such a big moment in his reporting career.

[84] They included it in his obituaries over 30 years later.

[85] Hell yeah, they did.

[86] He was on the scene.

[87] According to this one, my granddad handed Henley the car phone, knowing that he would be able to hear the whole conversation.

[88] Then he grabbed the camera, started filming, and cut the infamous confession on tape.

[89] If it's not too weird to say, it warmed my heart to be reminded.

[90] minded of another part of my granddad's amazing life on one of my favorite podcasts even if it was about a truly gruesome murder story from my hometown from one anxious depressed person who loves her therapist to another all around hello stay sexy and don't get murdered XO XO XO GenoVee oh my God that's awesome I for some reason at the beginning I assumed this was from a guy and said he at the beginning but that is so epic I killed D and they have the other they have her side of the conversation on and that must be why that must be he got it he had it all hooked up yeah that is so legendary she's crying he's crying oh Jesus Christ wow thank you Genevieve yeah well I have a Dean Coral story too do you really this says this been could have met the candy man hello Karen Georgia Stephen and esteemed associates Elvis that's you that's my favorite one so far let's go get your briefcase Steve just snows the love the show Love you guys Can't wait to see you in Dallas In November In 1973 when I was 12 years old My mother and I lived in an apartment complex In the North Houston neighborhood of Spring Branch My best friend Craig Also 12 and his older brother Robert 14 lived the next complex over We were all latchkey kids So we usually spent the two and a half hours Between school and dinner Doing pretty much anything but homework The complex had a large courtyard That faced the street And we hung out there a lot farting around the way boys do at that age.

[91] Yep, teenagers.

[92] Salami and cheese.

[93] Salami and cheese sandwiches on wipe bread with mustard, right?

[94] That's boys in the 70s.

[95] That's it.

[96] One afternoon, not long before the last day of school, we were throwing a football around when a guy pulled up in a van.

[97] He got out and walked over to where we were playing, looking up at the second floor apartments like he was trying to find his way around.

[98] He was older than us, probably 17 or so, and we didn't pay any attention to him until he walked up and started talking to us.

[99] He was really nice, tallish, and thin.

[100] He was really nice, tallish, with long brown, wait, with long blonde hair and wire -in glasses.

[101] Just said hi and started shooting the shit, talking about football.

[102] Robert, my friend's brother, spoke with him the most probably because he was older.

[103] The blonde guy invited Robert to a party, telling him there would be lots of girls there and that there'd be plenty of beer and food, even some weed if he wanted.

[104] Robert basically said, no thanks.

[105] Both he and Craig were from a pretty religious family, and then the guy turned to me. What about you?

[106] He said, come on, it'll be fun.

[107] I remember feeling that weird tingle in my stomach I'll never forget it I have felt it a few times since but this was the first time something was off I was always a shy kid so I looked at the ground and said something about how my mom wouldn't let me and I'd get in trouble if I did which was absolutely true besides I was 12 years old I didn't even really like girls that much and yet I damn sure wasn't interested in beer and pot he didn't seem mad or irritated he just said something along the lines of that's too bad man catch you next time and he got in his van and drove off And that was it until a few months later when I saw his picture on TV.

[108] I recognized him right away.

[109] His name was David Brooks.

[110] He and Elmer Wayne Henley assisted serial killer Dean Coral for years by procuring boys for Coral to rape, torture, and murder, then Barry in a boatshed and benches.

[111] I remember during my teen years really resenting my mom's strictness, but then I would remember that it was likely the very strictness that kept me off the torture board, attended to by the Candyman, and I'll cut her some slack.

[112] Thanks for listening, stay sexy, and never, ever, ever get in the van.

[113] Yours, Glenn.

[114] Oh, my God.

[115] Dude.

[116] It's so creepy.

[117] Yeah.

[118] Like, but you could just do that back then.

[119] Yes.

[120] It's like wandering hippies starting up conversations was totally derogar.

[121] No one even thought about it.

[122] Like, that they would want to talk to young kids would make sense.

[123] Yeah.

[124] I know.

[125] Thank God those boys were like, that's together.

[126] and smart than religious like that alone i feel like saved them from doing anything because they knew satan was in their presence they could feel him yeah they could feel Satan amen um mama mama mama mama killedine all right this one's called vicarious encounters with infamous men okay hey mfm crew all right what up i've been a fan from the very beginning earlier this week i was having a couple beers with my dad.

[127] We have a strange relationship.

[128] You ready for this?

[129] Yeah.

[130] We have a strange relationship since he spent 17 years in prison in New York State for killing my mom when I was three and a half.

[131] Whoa.

[132] And I read that.

[133] I was like, great job, Stephen.

[134] Great job picking this one.

[135] I know.

[136] She says, I know, I know.

[137] How can I still see or talk to him, right?

[138] I'll just say it's complicated.

[139] Not right.

[140] Shit.

[141] We don't, I mean, yeah.

[142] I'm not your father.

[143] I get it.

[144] there's lots of there's lots of things and understandable that alcohol's involved when you guys hang out my mom didn't even kill anyone and i have to fucking drink around her when i'm with her look i mean you only have two parents i mean the enormity of that yes it's it's just like no one will ever understand that unless they've gone through it yeah and who knows what the dad said i mean who knows anyway who knows who knows yeah anyway for the she says anyway i'm not saying it to you Anyway, Karen.

[145] Anyway, for the first time this week, I really got some details about what prison was like.

[146] He apparently only ever spent a month in, quote, the box or solitary confinement because he refused to snitch on a guy who started a fight with him.

[147] He said having a reputation as a snitch stays with you the whole time you're inside.

[148] The only thing worse is being a convicted child master.

[149] He was in Attica for a while and he said that he used to play Peanuckle with David Berkowitz.

[150] The guy who was son of Sam.

[151] I mean, I hope this isn't a lie, but if it is, it's great writing.

[152] It doesn't seem like...

[153] Peanuckle is the funniest card game that you could name.

[154] And you're playing it with Son of Sam.

[155] With Son of Sam.

[156] Fuck.

[157] Great, just great contrast.

[158] I love it.

[159] While he was there, he and a guard would make each other laugh by walking by Mark David Chapman's cell and singing John Lennon's songs.

[160] No. What the fuck?

[161] Holy shit.

[162] All in all, a pretty fucked up situation.

[163] but it has occasionally yielded some interesting stories.

[164] I love you both, and I hope that next time you're in Philadelphia, we can hang out and be BFF.

[165] I'll make you cookies.

[166] In the meantime, stay sexy and don't get murdered.

[167] All do the same.

[168] Smooch is to you and Stephen and the animal crew, XOXO, X, O, X, O, Steff.

[169] Steph.

[170] Steph.

[171] That's, I mean, that's fascinating.

[172] What an interesting person, her.

[173] I mean, her.

[174] All of it.

[175] Yeah.

[176] Also, just that, the experience of a person, you know how like the inside prison experiment all those shows it's also I'm because I'm sure it's hellish and terrible like the night of or whatever it's all just like this huge panic but like kind of anecdotal stories about being inside prison is is a very fascinating way to get that information because you imagine the like day to day stuff is like it's pretty boring right it becomes like you know you're 12 years into a life sentence and you're like this is what I do now and I Yeah, there's been a couple of fights, but I've had to go, and there's this and that.

[177] But there's probably not much going on.

[178] Until someone jumps you in the laundry room.

[179] Yeah, with a shank.

[180] Is that what they use?

[181] Maybe they shank you.

[182] Maybe they garot you.

[183] Maybe you learn to make prison wine.

[184] Maybe you are able to order through the guy that gets stuff, like a catalog.

[185] You can get yourself some mushrooms.

[186] Top ramen.

[187] Oh.

[188] Some mushrooms for your top ramen.

[189] Can you imagine doing drugs and mushrooms in a fucking prison?

[190] I think you'd go out of your goddamn mind.

[191] But I think it's just to get just to pass the time.

[192] Yeah.

[193] Yeah.

[194] Yeah, mushrooms would be bad, though, because you'd be like, I keep seeing skulls everywhere.

[195] Yeah.

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[217] Goodbye.

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[231] Goodbye.

[232] So this is Deb L. and she says my hometown murder is me or rather would have been me if not for well let me explain oh my profile picture is me in kindergarten in 1967 in norwalk california i was a child on the spectrum before there was a spectrum to be on back then i was just weird debby and mostly i was a loner in a crowd of people and this is still true FYI one day i headed to a good friend's house across the alley we lived in an area there was a lot of apartment buildings and a few single family homes to get to my my friend's apartment, we had to go through the carport.

[233] As I approached the area, I saw a man with long surfer hair sitting in his car.

[234] I had to pass by this car, but something about him made me wary.

[235] As I got closer, he opened up his passenger door from the inside and gestured for me to get in.

[236] As I looked into the car, I could see he wasn't wearing pants and his stick shift was present and alert.

[237] She doesn't mean the car.

[238] No, she does not.

[239] Jesus.

[240] I ran back to my house while he was screaming for me to come back.

[241] And then I told my mom what I saw.

[242] Let's just say my mom was not a kind woman and I was slapped for describing a man's penis and was told to never talk about that again.

[243] And she blamed me. Hey, 1967.

[244] Yeah, this was back before people understood how humanity worked.

[245] Right.

[246] We talk about it a lot.

[247] Yeah.

[248] Let's see.

[249] And then moving ahead, three more days, I was again walking and meet a friend on the other side of the same apartment building.

[250] I mean, her mom was just like, get out of here.

[251] Her mom's like, hmm, my young child just described a naked man in a car.

[252] Screaming at her.

[253] Go back outside.

[254] That was her.

[255] That's her answer.

[256] I avoided the carport and as I made it around the corner, I passed a car parked on the road.

[257] I didn't see the driver.

[258] As I got near the door of the car, he suddenly sat up, opened the door, and grabbed my arm and started pulling me into the car.

[259] Fuck.

[260] I screamed, kicked, bit, hit, scratched, and clawed my way away from him.

[261] Yes.

[262] Good girl.

[263] A woman walking on the street heard the commotion and came running.

[264] That's right.

[265] And he drove off.

[266] What if he was like?

[267] And then she slapped me across the street.

[268] Another mean mom came from across the street to hit me in the face.

[269] Anyways, I'm in a psycho award now because people are the worst.

[270] I didn't tell my mom about the second one because, well, you know.

[271] And being four, I couldn't be sexy except to a fucking pervert.

[272] Wait, wait.

[273] Yeah.

[274] Four years old?

[275] Yeah.

[276] Wait.

[277] She said six originally.

[278] Wait.

[279] Um, no, she was four.

[280] Fuck.

[281] What?

[282] Can you imagine a four -year -old walking around the street?

[283] We, no. Like, even a four -year -old out of a car seat these days makes people nervous, much less just fucking, oh, bye, mom, I'm going to go take the alley to my friend's house.

[284] I'll be back later when I feel like it.

[285] Yeah, I'm Michael bowling.

[286] I'm four.

[287] I got to live my life.

[288] Um, two years later.

[289] He would grab an eight -year -old off the street and take her to his Hollywood apartment, and here's where it gets familiar, where he raped and beat her badly, and then he would begin his rapy, murdery spree until he is finally caught.

[290] The man, Rodney Alcala.

[291] Oh, yes.

[292] Ronnie Alcala.

[293] I know it's difficult to believe, being that I was four at the time, that I'd remember this.

[294] However, it wasn't until the late 90s when I saw a headline with his picture and I screamed because staring out at me from the computer screen was that face from 34 years ago.

[295] that I finally had a name to put with the face.

[296] I hadn't even read the article to know what he'd done, but I knew he was the guy who tried to grab me twice.

[297] Also, ever since this moment, my hypervigilance is always on high alert.

[298] People think it's funny to come up behind me and startle me. It isn't.

[299] Who?

[300] So that's how you earn the right to grow up and stay sexy, not getting murdered.

[301] Way to go, Deb.

[302] Hell yes.

[303] Rodney Alcada, if I'm pronouncing it correctly.

[304] Alcala.

[305] Alcala.

[306] Alcala.

[307] Alcala?

[308] He's the one that was on the dating game.

[309] Yeah.

[310] that is the that's one of my favorite one that one comes on of all those crime shows I always have to watch that one because first of all he's such a creep yeah overtly and he was also the photographer right yeah so he'd go to these like open call like photo shoots at the beach with like women and bikinis who were like I want to be a model in the photographer like I'm a photographer because I have a camera yeah come back to my place and I'll take some photos of you sounds great let me grab my four year old child oh god I wonder how many like how many like how many murders are can be attributed to him that were never haven't been right i mean if he's doing shit like that and i know he went from like california to florida and i mean oh he's he needs to get we need to go in depth on that guy let's do it um right now let's do right now uh give me yours okay i'm not going to say the okay it's such a line guys you wouldn't believe what stories you get from your family members after years of thinking they don't have any cool murderess stories.

[311] So I'm currently in training to be a truck driver.

[312] You guys keep me saying when I'm driving, my trainer is a nightmare.

[313] And on my off weekends, I've been going to my godfather's house and hanging out with him.

[314] We start talking about how there's been so many things about Bundy on TV, and somehow I managed to bring up John Wayne Gacy.

[315] Well, my godfather, very nonchalantly, goes, oh yeah, a couple of my buddies stole his toilet before they demolished the house.

[316] What?

[317] Toilet.

[318] Of course.

[319] I made him tell me. everything and apparently they were in the area of his house and they thought it'd be fun to go up there to go up there before it was completely dismantled so fun because you know they raised that thing to the ground yeah yeah um when they got there they see that gasey's toilet was sitting out on the front lawn so like any 20 -something year old guys sure enough they loaded up and they take it home oh no and years later guess what the guy still has john way and gaysie's toilet just sitting in his garage and tells everyone.

[320] Holy shit.

[321] Stay sexy and steal toilets, Mason.

[322] Amazing.

[323] Amazing.

[324] I bet you could sell that fucker.

[325] Oh, I bet there are collectors that would pay five grand, ten grand for that thing.

[326] Let's go steal it.

[327] Let's steal the stolen toilet.

[328] This is just like Nicholas Cage.

[329] This is the next plot of the Nicholas Cage movie.

[330] Toilet.

[331] Toilet Steelers.

[332] National Toilet Stealers of America.

[333] Amen.

[334] Amen.

[335] This is called a serial killer.

[336] I witness was my elementary art teacher.

[337] What?

[338] Okay.

[339] Hello, Karen, Georgia, Steven, and animal friends.

[340] That's right.

[341] I don't mind that.

[342] I love your podcasts, and I have to thank my twin sister, Lisa, for getting me hooked.

[343] Lisa, we're from a small town in northwest Indiana with a population of just over 2000.

[344] It was a pretty quiet place to grow up.

[345] My grandma was the one who got us interested in true crime from a young age.

[346] I can remember my grandma listening to her police scanner.

[347] Yes.

[348] And watching Core TV.

[349] like it was her job.

[350] Love you, grandma also liked to take us to cemeteries for fun.

[351] Fuck, yes.

[352] We attended the local elementary school where one of my favorite classes was art with our teacher, Nita Paradis.

[353] She was an excellent teacher who made her students feel special and talented.

[354] Miss Paradis was our art teacher from kindergarten through fifth grade.

[355] When we came back for sixth grade in 1990, Miss Paradis had left her position and moved away, leaving a very inadequate replacement.

[356] We had an older sister Laura who was freshman at the time so of course we got all of our completely age and appropriate information from her yes older sister Laura yeah oh yeah the next school year we found out that Laura from Laura that Miss Paradis was actually Nita Neri what an eyewitness in the Ted Bundy trial oh fuck that's her she escaped that's right he he in Colorado in no it's a Chi Omega oh in Florida yeah well I bet she'll tell us okay I like that you call called it chai omega what is it kai kai but it's chai tea i didn't go to college i didn't know can i tell you the truth right now i didn't know what a fucking r a was until you told until you started rooting that thing i was like oh she worked as an r a in the hospital cool oh uh like a highway patrolman got it got it i didn't resident assistant listen yeah i know i get it now look and listen about santa monica city college that's what's up um boop boop boop okay okay so So this is really exciting because I'm reading a stranger beside me or the stranger beside me by Anne Rule right now.

[357] And so this is a fucking, okay, anyways, but what did that?

[358] Because she was like, let's do it.

[359] We had no other sister.

[360] Meena.

[361] Nita was an art major and a member of the Kai.

[362] Kai Omega.

[363] Stupid.

[364] Sorority at Florida State University.

[365] She returned to the sorority house after a date entering the house through the back door.

[366] Nita heard footsteps coming down the stairs.

[367] She remained silent and hidden in the shadows and became an eyewitness to Ted Bundy leaving the house.

[368] She helped a police sketch artist come up with a rendering of Bundy and later identified him in a photo lineup and in court.

[369] Of course, we later heard rumors that she was in our small town as part of the witness protection program.

[370] Oh.

[371] We still aren't sure if there was any truth to that, but either way, our small town was probably a nice place to lie low for a while.

[372] Anyway, just wanted to share our little town's connection to a notorious serial killer.

[373] Thank you for creating a place for true crime lovers to gather without judgment.

[374] Please keep doing what you're doing.

[375] Stay sexy and don't get murdered.

[376] Carla.

[377] How cool?

[378] What a bummer to find out after she's gone.

[379] But it totally was witness protection, don't you think?

[380] Like, head out and because.

[381] But if she's already a teacher, then that means she got her degree.

[382] Oh, so she, this was the past was behind her.

[383] He was got like within the year, I think, of that.

[384] So this was the past was behind her.

[385] he was already in jail in jail so maybe she was just like get me the fuck out of my existence right now but also like she really was the final blow to stopping this monster who killed so many women yeah including two of her fucking sorority sisters at Kai Omega upstairs that night where he walked in and walked out like within like 15 minutes yes it was frenzied don't read the stranger beside me, I am having nightmares.

[386] I had a fucking, I had a job interview with Ted Bundy the other night.

[387] Oh, no. I had a job interview to be his assistant at his fucking mansion in Beverly Hills.

[388] I put my feet in his jacuzzi because I was early.

[389] Montessessori jacuzzi.

[390] Which is so something I would truly do.

[391] And then at a job interview, Ted Bundy.

[392] It's so symbolic of how.

[393] show business kills people what jacuzis you up oh oh oh karen yes i'll go deep or i'm just reading the stranger beside me the most disturbing book about a person who is the most disturbing person that but but anne rule had rules she she rules but she also had every tool in the book to look at him and go something's not right and she didn't sense it I know.

[394] Even when...

[395] It's so scary.

[396] Elvis, he hit his head.

[397] What his eyes weren't crossed anymore?

[398] And he spoke French.

[399] What if he spoke cat, but in French?

[400] Oh, meo, meo, meo, meo.

[401] I want a cookie.

[402] Are you a cookie boy?

[403] He doesn't understand what I'm saying.

[404] No, he doesn't.

[405] We can cut any of that and all of it up.

[406] Well, fuck.

[407] Yeah, that was amazing.

[408] That was great.

[409] Carla, also one of the last Carlas, I'm sure.

[410] they're very few carlas on the planet anymore that's true they're going extinct great name please send us all your fucking just send us your weird shit you know what i mean like send us your weird stories that no one you don't think anyone wants to hear yeah we want to hear it we do and the people who are listening do but that's it yes so it's and stephen and stephen send them to my favorite murder at gmail tell stephen tell stephen what he needs to know in the subject line get your shit read don't use the word for babies i mean or do it for attention but just know that that's really old and no one even enjoys the irony of that anymore.

[411] Do it aggressively if you're going to do it at all.

[412] Yeah, start a hashtag against us.

[413] Why are you mad at us?

[414] Using it.

[415] All we're doing.

[416] It's just that thing of trying to is, do you want negative attention?

[417] Do you want positive attention?

[418] What if the positive tension doesn't work?

[419] Then you might as well go negative.

[420] Sure.

[421] Stay sexy.

[422] And don't get murdered.

[423] Goodbye.

[424] Elvis, you want cookie?

[425] Oh, yeah.

[426] Right is rain.