#162 - Daniele Bolelli

[0] Kick it, Brian.

[1] Where's the music?

[2] Oh.

[3] What did you do?

[4] What is this?

[5] This is like a remote version of the song.

[6] It doesn't go through the speaker for some reason?

[7] I forgot to plug that.

[8] We've got to get a new computer, folks.

[9] We've got to get a new computer.

[10] It's only a few years old, but try running a computer from four years ago with today's operating systems and all this stuff it's it's it's you notice the difference you notice a big difference and how fast it works especially when you're not just like using i photo yeah yeah yeah for like for regular stuff it's almost like they make things more complicated so you actually need you know a bigger hard drive and a bigger you know a faster processor but you know for like just web browsing i mean how much that's what most people do it's the most intensive thing most people do yeah i i don't think many people are editing podcasts and videos and this and this one this is the old what's the Power Mac, is what's it called?

[11] That shit is like the noisiest thing in the whole entire world.

[12] It's like that's supposed to be that top of the line thing, but there's 17 fans on there, and the thing just sounds like it's going to take on it.

[13] It's not meant for being in the room with sensitive mics and podcasts.

[14] It's meant for, you know, some serious work.

[15] Yeah.

[16] Our friend we have here today, ladies and gentlemen, is a serious author.

[17] A man, his name is Daniel Bollelli.

[18] Did I say it right?

[19] Yep.

[20] And he wrote a book about martial arts called On the Warriors Path, and also wrote a book about religion called 50, what is it, the 50 things they don't want?

[21] 50 things you are not supposed to know, religion.

[22] Yeah, and you wrote it for disinformation.

[23] So disinfo .com, guys, which I really, I'm a fan of their stuff.

[24] I love the, uh, the, the you're being lied to books.

[25] They're great.

[26] Yeah.

[27] Really, really awesome stuff and really like great toilet reading, you know.

[28] Like the fifth person who tells me that.

[29] Yeah, you know, because you're being lied to is like really short paragraphs.

[30] And, you know, you might, if you're healthy, you probably won't get through a whole paragraph in a shit if you get through a whole paragraph in a shit you might want to put some broccoli in your diet you know but they're they're they're good like short pieces brian what the fuck what the fuck brian i don't know what the fuck i'm but they're they're good short pieces that um they're you know they're really eye -opening and enlightening so in disinfo they put out a lot of cool stuff and so they've gotten behind i think they put out some of graham hancock stuff too didn't they yeah that was kind of like the formula for this book dude like their whole idea was I submitted to them this giant book I've been working on 400 pages long with footnotes all this stuff of our religion and they were like yeah that's sweet and all but seriously can you give us something quick and that funny weird that has an impact right away that people as you put it can read on the toilet and yeah get on something intense but quick it's very difficult for people to discipline themselves to read any serious piece of work on anything it's just when you're just simply stating the facts and documenting things, it's, you know, it's oftentimes a dry read, you know, even though it's fascinating information.

[31] So they're really clever in their idea of just, you know, figuring out a way to get it.

[32] And then, you know, probably once people read this book, get familiar with your writing, get into you, then maybe they'll dive into like some of your more serious stuff, right?

[33] Yeah, even serious is a big word because I had, even in the big book, I had one of the chapters about the existence of God begins with a woman having a screaming orgasms.

[34] So, I mean, it's only, it can only be so serious.

[35] But I guess it was, the idea was, now, let's do something else, that they have a serious going.

[36] The 50 things you are not supposed to know.

[37] It works well for them.

[38] They want to do something on religion.

[39] And initially, because I was so attached to the other project, I was like, ah, screw it.

[40] I don't want to do it.

[41] I want to, when they told me the magic word advanced, suddenly I was there.

[42] Yeah, a little money.

[43] It always greases the wheels.

[44] I was like, what?

[45] You want me to be weird and fun and quick about religion?

[46] No problem.

[47] No problem.

[48] Now, you are you from Italy?

[49] Yeah.

[50] What part of Italy are from?

[51] Milan, which, by the way, I want to apologize to your listener, because I've been living here, believe it or not, I've been living your 20 years.

[52] And when I first moved here, I swear I was speaking almost decent English.

[53] But then somebody brought to my attention that many American women like my weird Italian accent.

[54] So he kept it.

[55] So I'm like, I'm supposed to work hard.

[56] Yeah, that's a good one to have, man. I'll tell you what.

[57] If I talked like you, I'd keep that shit, too.

[58] I can understand you.

[59] I mean, it's not like you're not, it's not, you're not like you're difficult to understand.

[60] You're very clear.

[61] You just have a very distinct Italian flavor.

[62] It's like reading cursive writing.

[63] Exactly.

[64] Like cursive, like typing.

[65] If you have a typing program that type in cursive.

[66] Yeah.

[67] That's how I figure, you know, being understood versus being like by women.

[68] No, I think I take being liked by women.

[69] Yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun.

[70] Yeah, women are like, well, men do too, man. You hear a girl with an English accent.

[71] You're like, ooh, listen to that, you know?

[72] Australian, English, anything.

[73] you know it's why why is that it's just everyone's dissatisfied with what they are everyone is looking for something different everyone wishes they were someone else everyone sees the grass greener everyone goes god damn I wish I had an accent like that guy hey it works for me so I'm just it's one of the biggest sins right when you fake an accent can there be a more douchy thing to do like remember when Madonna was talking English do you remember that Brian yeah she only did it for like a little bit until people started calling her on it Britney Spears also did it for a while it seems like yeah but brittany you know nobody takes brittany spirit seriously you know brittany spires is a crazy person madonna's like a legit artist linds got a little carried away yeah there's a lot of people that do that why i should try we should try it i should not have caffeine for a while and fake an accident for a ha ha ha ha this is my sixth or seventh day of no caffeine yeah that's fascinating man i want to do that yeah um yeah i'm a junkie i didn't even know it was a junkie feel great now but I'm not convinced that I'm going to stay off the coffee you know it's just like now I know what it's like to be like a person who's hooked on cigarettes yeah is it like a cigarette like you see this coffee right now you're like oh that looks delicious no because the physical pull is not the same the physical pull and I can substitute it like I'll drink like a chai tea latte which has like the tiniest amount of caffeine nothing like a coffee but yeah but you have 42 of them per day don't you know I main line them I just take them right into my fucking veins but do you drink coffee, brother?

[74] You had a really good point.

[75] You were saying before the podcast about this, we were speaking about this.

[76] Yeah, I tried to use it the same way somebody always uses hard drugs, you know.

[77] I'll try, just when I absolutely need it, then I'm wired for 10 hours.

[78] I'm not even going to drink coffee.

[79] I'm just going to have a double espresso when I need it.

[80] Just go with my ear sticking out in 10 directions and speak 50 miles an hour for 10 hours and then pass out and not touch it for three months.

[81] That's scary.

[82] Such a smart move.

[83] That's such a smart move.

[84] That scares me. Well, the reason why I did this in the first was because I took a few days off just randomly.

[85] Just I, you know, decided I just didn't want any coffee.

[86] And then I had a cup of coffee.

[87] And oh, my God.

[88] My heart was pounding.

[89] I was like, wow, this is crazy.

[90] It just took a couple days, maybe three days.

[91] And I was, you know, my tolerance had broken down.

[92] I don't know why or how that happens that quick.

[93] Or if I just got a really good batch at Starbucks.

[94] And then I started thinking about it, like, wow, how much resources is my body using to fight off this stimulant every day?

[95] How normal is this?

[96] You know, how healthy is this?

[97] It can't be.

[98] And I get the same feeling like when I'm drinking coffee that I do when I smoke too much cigarettes where it feels like my body is like craving it, but I get a headache kind of from it.

[99] Like I can feel it, right?

[100] You feel like you're poisoned.

[101] And you're addicted, you know?

[102] Yeah, I'm most certainly I'm addicted to coffee.

[103] I see it and I smell it.

[104] But I can get around it with tea.

[105] And tea doesn't wire me like that.

[106] It doesn't, really?

[107] I mean, ice tea, I drink shit loads of ice tea, but.

[108] that is like as bad as drinking coffee i think really yeah there's oh yeah there's a lot of caffeine yeah but you know you could drink herbal tea too i like herbal tea you know you could have like you know there's there's a lot of different types of herbal tea that have no caffeine in them for me it's like tape fletcher our buddy said it best you said it's like drink a cup of coffee it's like having a warm hug yeah you know it's like i'm not really looking to be wired from the coffee i just want some warm liquid that tastes good and i like the taste of coffee yeah i think you need more love man I need more love?

[109] I think you got a good point, brother.

[110] I like the way this guy thinks.

[111] So you wrote this book on religion, and you wrote also a book on martial art. So you and I have a lot in common, man. We have a lot of very similar interests.

[112] How did you get involved in religion?

[113] Will you raise religious?

[114] No. No, I'm fascinated by it because you see how much it means to people, how much their whole worldview, their life, their priorities, who they marry, who they want to hang out with.

[115] Everything depends on the kind of stuff they put in their head based on religion.

[116] so it's powerful stuff it's amazing that still works yeah isn't it 2011 it's it's you know with it's very difficult to have pure objective thinking but then again you know the thing is the stuff that drives all these is that people are scared of dying and rightfully so because you know we don't control jack shit we don't know anything about anything really about the universe works and so a friend of ours just died so we should say rest in peace to patrice O 'Neill who was a great guy and a great comedian and it's an awesome dude an awesome thinker.

[117] He's a warm, friendly guy.

[118] I always love seeing that guy, and I'm going to miss him.

[119] I'm going to miss him a lot.

[120] It was a, he was a great comedian.

[121] He was a great guy, you know, just sucks.

[122] It just, he had poor health.

[123] You know, he had diabetes, and he had, I guess he just didn't really take care of himself.

[124] He ate too much, and he wound up having a stroke.

[125] And he was in a coma for a little while, I guess.

[126] And then, you know, he was, it was really difficult to get the information out because the family was sort of protecting it and rightly so.

[127] We don't know exactly the details of it.

[128] So this is all really what I'm repeating is just stuff that I heard on the internet.

[129] I have, you know, I'm so sad about it.

[130] I don't even want to call anybody and talk to anybody about it, you know.

[131] I talked to Stanhope about it today.

[132] We talked for just like, there's a minute.

[133] We can, you know, what can you say?

[134] It sucks.

[135] We both just said that.

[136] We really didn't even say anything other than it sucks.

[137] I asked him, I go, did you hear about Patrice?

[138] he goes yeah sucks I go yeah sucks can't even say anything else anything else is cliche hey it's gonna happen to all of us someday it's like the real moment of actually dealing with loss is really intense you know it's real hard to deal with Patrice we're gonna miss you miss you a lot man he was he was one of those comics that was so quick like just seeing him on Opie and Anthony all the time that was the one thing that I could just he was really fast and hilarious He's a comic, man. He's a real comic.

[139] My favorite Patrice thing wasn't even of him doing stand -up.

[140] My favorite Patrice thing was him on one of those, like, Fox radio.

[141] It was either Fox News or one of those talk shows where someone had said something inappropriate and gotten in trouble.

[142] I believe it was like Opie and Anthony.

[143] I think it was the incident where they had some crackhead on their show, and the crackhead was talked about he wanted to rape Condoleezza Rice.

[144] like it was just they had a crazy person on their show and like and they got suspended for it i think that was what he was defending but there was a woman on who was with him and this woman was like talking about how you you shouldn't have said this you shouldn't have said this you shouldn't and that and patrice is just clown in her he's just like you don't understand funny you guys don't understand funny it all comes in the same place and the way he said it was so honest and so well thought out and it made them look so silly it made people criticizing people who stepped across the line with comedy, criticizing them, you know, as if what their comedy was was like an actual statement of their real beliefs.

[145] No, it's comedy, you know, and it all comes from the same place, the ability or the attempt rather to try to make people laugh.

[146] And he broke it down so well, and it was so funny the way he did it, the way he handled it was so brilliant.

[147] He was just a real quick guy, a real unique thinker.

[148] And a guy who, you know, I always really love to see.

[149] And whenever I ran into him, I was always happy.

[150] You know, comedians are a rare animal.

[151] There's not that many of us.

[152] Is this the video right here that you're talking about?

[153] I don't think so.

[154] No, it was, yeah, that's it.

[155] Yeah, absolutely.

[156] He just told me clown this lady.

[157] Osario.

[158] She took part in a recent protest calling for radio stations to stop supporting negative language in music and talk radio.

[159] And also, our favorite stand -up comic, Patrice O 'Neill.

[160] Thank you, sir.

[161] Patrice, our O &A next?

[162] I hope not.

[163] I wish J .V. and I was then losing a job or I miss. It's funny.

[164] This is the thing.

[165] I don't know her, but I'm assuming that she has nothing to do with funny.

[166] So I'm going to speak as the expert on funny.

[167] Funny people should just be left to trying to be funny.

[168] What if they're not funny?

[169] You made a mistake.

[170] But how many, listen, how many times has the unfunny, how many unfunny rape jokes lead to rape?

[171] I don't know how many jokes about rape there are.

[172] There's a lot, but your, your world is not funny.

[173] Your world is...

[174] Next one of the big story.

[175] My world is people trying to be funny.

[176] Well, I mean, you think it's okay to try to make jokes about rape?

[177] I'm diabetic.

[178] I make fun of that.

[179] I'm a victim.

[180] I might lose a toe.

[181] I'm trying to make fun of anything I think I can make fun of.

[182] Sonia?

[183] You know, what's happening now is the marketplace.

[184] Okay.

[185] Is deciding what's appropriate or what's not appropriate.

[186] It is.

[187] I think the nation is just tired.

[188] There's a new mood in the nation.

[189] What nation?

[190] The nation.

[191] You know what?

[192] We're tired of things that are just powerful.

[193] It's just the nation.

[194] I'm not the nation.

[195] I'm just speaking for me and funny.

[196] You're speaking for the nation or you're speaking for...

[197] Shut it down.

[198] I remember six years ago doing something against Anthony Opini because they were just so outrageous and their violent images that they put out to women was just uncalled for.

[199] And now, now, I think people...

[200] You think they were trying to be funny?

[201] I think now, people in this country...

[202] Do you think they were trying to be funny?

[203] You know what?

[204] I don't care if they're trying to be funny.

[205] That's what I'm saying.

[206] Why are you in that business?

[207] I've been to your show once, and it wasn't very funny.

[208] Being a woman...

[209] It was hilarious.

[210] You talked about...

[211] That's why she don't like me. I was in the paper with her, and the joke is hilarious called The Angry Pirate.

[212] And the lady who wrote it in her outrage didn't even know, what it meant and anybody who read it laugh because they know what funny you're not living in the context of funny you're living in the context of fire have every right to be as funny as they want they can go out and try to be as funny as funny as much funny make as much money being as funny as they want this is what's happening there is a change in this country people are realizing they have an opportunity to speak out and advertisers are listening you're not talking you're not talking to who I talk to and you're not going to get paid as much money anymore sonia patrice That's what it is.

[213] I'm not going to get paid.

[214] It's much more.

[215] They've been on a tear lately.

[216] All right.

[217] Are they cleaning house or is this the PC cops run a muck?

[218] You know what it is, John.

[219] You know what it is why you're reading that paper.

[220] It's the PC cops run a mug.

[221] Who's the PC cop?

[222] Of course she is.

[223] She has an entire encyclopedia of her stance on it, but it's no passion involved.

[224] It's not a real.

[225] This is just what she has to say.

[226] We are outraged and fired and fired and fired and fired.

[227] He's absolutely.

[228] name calling I'm outraged.

[229] I am outraged.

[230] You should be out of a fool.

[231] Now if I called you a fool, ah!

[232] You know what?

[233] Who are these people?

[234] Who are the people?

[235] A new sense of entitlement to deceitism.

[236] Here's what, here's my question.

[237] How can you justify a bad joke, a joke that isn't funny?

[238] Oh wait a minute, wait.

[239] Go ahead.

[240] That isn't funny, doesn't get any laughs, and is about raping a, the first black woman to ever become the secretary of state of the united states throw that at me well why not the attempt is what i'm trying to fight for the joke may or make funny jokes and unfunny jokes are come out of the same birth that you you don't know if anything is going to be funny you should attempt to be able to make anything funny think a joke about rape is doomed to be not funny it's possible but i've heard them you've heard a funny rape joke i say a couple watch my feel special.

[241] I'm pretty good at it.

[242] Yeah, Patrice says that if you're having sex with a woman, doggy style, and if you wrong, she's saying doggy style.

[243] No, it's ejaculating her eye and kick her in the shin, and she walks around like, it's the angry pirate.

[244] That's what she was trying to say.

[245] He said, a violent ask that, hitting her in the back of her head, her body, it's called the donkey punch.

[246] Which will then...

[247] Why are you laughing?

[248] She's outcry.

[249] It's called the donkey punch.

[250] It's called humor that she has no clue.

[251] We have the same problem that Opie and Anthony does.

[252] You can't say just anything on the air.

[253] You can say anything you want.

[254] It might not be funny.

[255] You might get in trouble for it, but you should be able to be attempting.

[256] And plus, when is a crazy bum going to get an opportunity to rate the president?

[257] If the president's wife, John, it was trying to be funny.

[258] All right, Patrice, why aren't I hearing Al Sharpton complain about this thing involving Congress?

[259] Because it wasn't involving young black women.

[260] Well, this is involving a very prominent black woman.

[261] Well, where was she during young black?

[262] Everybody has their agenda.

[263] I was there.

[264] I was there.

[265] I'm sorry.

[266] All right.

[267] Excuse me. But why am I not hearing from Charlton?

[268] Because it doesn't concern him.

[269] It's not concerned him.

[270] It's black, it's, you know, come on.

[271] Now, you know Al Sharpton has his agenda, and it was perfect for Al, young black women.

[272] And now she's representing just women in general.

[273] She's not representing the Nappy Whole part.

[274] She's representing just the hoe.

[275] The Nappy Head Part, she has nothing to do it.

[276] Just the hoe.

[277] You know what, women have been abused publicly in the media for too long, and people are tired of it.

[278] This has been a beautiful response of just the general public saying to advertisers, we're your consumers.

[279] She's awesome.

[280] We don't want to have to avoid everything in the street.

[281] We don't want to have to worry about what radio station we turn on, and there is some really derogatory, violent thing to deal with.

[282] Information, ma 'am, is secondhand from someone making you aware that someone may have said something that you should be upset about.

[283] It's a shame.

[284] The people you represent aren't all victims, and this matter.

[285] Patricia Anil, thank you very much.

[286] Sonia.

[287] Sorio, thanks to both be appreciated.

[288] I love, like, dumb people who talk ridiculous and try to sound intelligent.

[289] Like, she's, like, speaking for the entire country.

[290] And we are fed up, and we're like, whoa, whoa.

[291] How preposterous.

[292] How beautiful was he in that, though?

[293] Yeah, that was beautiful.

[294] He was beautiful.

[295] I love that dude.

[296] He is.

[297] We miss you, buddy.

[298] That's it.

[299] That's it.

[300] Rest and peace.

[301] See you.

[302] On the other side.

[303] Peace up.

[304] All right.

[305] Daniel, back to you, brother.

[306] Yep.

[307] So, Danielle.

[308] In Italian, that would be Daniel.

[309] In Italian?

[310] Danieli?

[311] In Italian?

[312] You slick bastard.

[313] I love the fact that you admitted you kept it.

[314] Kept that accent.

[315] That's fantastic.

[316] So I don't know how we got into this about people being afraid to die.

[317] That's what it was.

[318] Yeah, because I mean, with religion, if you read even like early 1900, people are thinking, okay, now with modernity, we're in a modern world, a more secular world, all the kind of more traditional superstitions are all going to phase out.

[319] And it means it makes sense on the surface, but not really, because until you have the answers to the things that make people really freak out, dying, grief, what the hell, you know, because, I mean, our life is so short, and we don't know jack shit about before or after until you give some people some answers people are not comfortable having no answers no matter how bullshit those answers are they they need them it's almost like religion is some sort of an evolutionary device like a bridge to take us from being monkeys to being enlightened beings like we need some horse shit to get us through this we need a belief otherwise you know the idea of no one ever wants to think of you know the concept of life being that it may be that you have lived this exact life before and you will live it over and over again until you get it right and the idea that this could go on into infinity right you know and that might be what life really is and we we don't think of it as being possible because it's too hard for our minds to wrap around and too alien to what we absolutely know to exist like you know birth and death and you know having a certain amount of time here to get things done and seeing people die you know but the actual possibility is almost like it's too fucked up for us so somebody had to invent religion in order to just patch up the road till we make it there yeah because i mean in reality we don't really control yeah pretty much anything in life and we're conscious and we're conscious so that's a quagmire yeah the universe yeah the universe itself you know i had a bit in one of my past albums about if you ever you know are starting to take your life seriously just stand out and go outside and just look up at space and just really wrap your head.

[320] I mean, everybody looks, oh, there's a star, stars, stars are bright tonight, but very few people actually look up and go, wow, you know, that literally is infinity.

[321] Like, we're floating in infinity, and it's the majority of what I see, you know, all around the top, it's easier to see infinity than it is to see the ground.

[322] I mean, I have more view of the infinity.

[323] Like, and it's amazing how rarely that comes up that no one talks about.

[324] And it almost, it's too much.

[325] So we just sort of accept that we live in space and accept that we look at the clouds.

[326] What is the first religion?

[327] What's the first known religion?

[328] I mean, if you look at the, I have a chapter in there that I had a, half of the fun of doing this book was coming up with the titles.

[329] Because in like in a few words, you just throw out something outrageous and weird and get things going.

[330] And let me see if I remember what this one exact was, because I had a blast with the origins of religion.

[331] Let me see.

[332] When will this book be released?

[333] It should be this week.

[334] This week on disinfo .com you can pick it up.

[335] And then Amazon.

[336] The whole, oh yeah, this one I have a chapter entitled Mammoth Porn and the Caveman's Epop, the origins of religion.

[337] Because the very first evidence that archaeologists suggest these may be the beginning of religious behavior.

[338] They see these cave paintings left by cavemen where the main things that these guys were drawing were hunting scenes and animals having sex.

[339] The idea being these guys were, like, doing these rituals because their life was on the line to ensure success in the hunt.

[340] And then, you know, animals are dead, so you need to make sure there are more for the next time around.

[341] So you're trying to send out the vibes so that the animals have sex.

[342] There's more of them and so on.

[343] And what they would do, again, this is pure speculation because who the hell knows, but it's a fun speculation.

[344] Archaeologists suggest that they would have these rituals in front of this painting where they would mimic hunting, and then they would mimic, you know, cavemen and campwoman, have you grindy, sweaty, dancing, semi -sex, kind of like modern hip -hop kind of thing.

[345] And that would be the beginning of religion because they are trying to influence the universe so that the animals have more sex and there's more of them to come along the next time.

[346] Wow.

[347] And I thought, it could be total bullshit because I mean, how do you know really?

[348] Right, how do you know?

[349] An archaeologist basing it on three pieces of information left 15 ,000 years ago, but it sound fun.

[350] And we should clarify that you actually know what you're talking about, unlike most of the time of these discussions get brought up on this podcast.

[351] You're actually a professor.

[352] You teach, where do you teach at?

[353] I teach at Santa Monica College and Calstall Lombich.

[354] And what is your education?

[355] I started out.

[356] When I came here, I did my VA in anthropology, but then I hated it.

[357] And then I did an MA in American Indian studies, of all things.

[358] Oh, wow.

[359] And I did a second domain in history.

[360] And I really, I mean, bottom line is there was mandatory military service in Italy.

[361] and you could defer it as long as you were in school.

[362] So I was like, I'll do another master's.

[363] No problem.

[364] Well, the Indian studies must have been interesting.

[365] Yeah, that's fun.

[366] It was a lot of fun.

[367] Yeah, I got really into American Indian history a few years back, and I read quite a few books on it.

[368] It's an amazing case of genocide.

[369] I mean, people really can't even wrap their head around how many American Indians died.

[370] Yeah, 90 % of the whole population wiped out.

[371] Oh, and horrific, horrific stories.

[372] You know, I read some soldiers' accounts of what they did to, you know, American Indians, and it's horrific, you know.

[373] It got really terrifying, like serial killer stuff, you know, what they would do, just heartless ruth, like they treated them like they were not even vermin, you know.

[374] A lot of that is actually tied to religion because the first way to kind of dehumanize somebody is, I mean, with all Western religions, they have this division between God and the devil, absolute good and absolute evil, and hell.

[375] So there are the good guys who follow God, and then there's everybody else.

[376] Because, I mean, if there's only one right way, then the idea is anybody who doesn't follow ours, my default is on the wrong side.

[377] And if you take that a couple of steps further, then that's what it leads to, you know, in the idea of you guys are the servants of the devil.

[378] You are not really human anyway.

[379] Wow.

[380] So this lottery new left and right is, it's an act of justice.

[381] That's one of my favorite.

[382] I use this in class all the time because I have a blast.

[383] everybody, even if they never read any of this stuff, I've heard about the whole story about Moses and the Ten Commandments and so on.

[384] And after that, I ask my students about what happens right after that story?

[385] Because that's where it gets juicy.

[386] And they're like, I don't know, something.

[387] Oh, there wasn't Golden Cuff or some crap, like some of the Jews are not worshipping the one god.

[388] I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's right.

[389] And what does Moses do about it right after getting the Ten Commandments?

[390] Like, I don't know.

[391] He gathers the loyalists, you know, the strict monotheistic people who are still on his side.

[392] He tells them, hey, guys, you know, those are our friends, they are our neighbors, some of them are family, but they are worshiping other gods.

[393] We can't have that, so you know what to do.

[394] Got your weapons, let's go from one side to the camp of the other, and kill them all.

[395] And so right after the Ten Commandments, you have a nice story of some 3 ,000 Jewish tribes and been hacked to that by the monotheistic Jews against the polytheistic Jews.

[396] in a nice religious massacre right off the bat wow and moses ordered this oh my god that is ridiculous that's amazing that's amazing and this is the old testament yep god the old testament is so freaky the old testament is just filled with freaky it's like one of the most psychedelic bizarre books you know the just all the stories it's just genesis and it's so much in there It's like, wait a minute, what?

[397] There was a fucking talking snake.

[398] Like, come on, man. The devil appeared as a talking snake and talked him into eating a fruit.

[399] It was just a piece of fruit.

[400] That's all they had to do?

[401] Just a piece of fruit?

[402] It's hilarious.

[403] You know, that God is just, his rules are so fucking serious.

[404] You eat my fucking apples, bitch.

[405] I'm not just going to punish you.

[406] I'm going to punish every fucking person from now to eternity.

[407] As long as their people, the people are fucked because one dumb bitch ate an apple.

[408] It's my fucking.

[409] apple.

[410] That's when you don't understand funny, I'm afraid.

[411] You know, it's when God should mellow out a little.

[412] Yeah.

[413] God, what the fuck, man?

[414] God, you need to smoke a joint.

[415] Yeah.

[416] Use some of your own creation.

[417] It's amazing how ruthless the, like when you go back in history, how ruthless gods were.

[418] Absolutely.

[419] No, that's why it cracks me up when you hear like Christian Fundamental is complaining about Hollywood about all the sex and violence.

[420] Because if you look at the Bible, there's, I mean, it's awesome.

[421] There's more sex and violence in the Bible than any Hollywood movie I can think of you know it gets so insanely graphic that it's like damn really this is what yeah it's amazing too how many the stories are like really similar to all older stories from other religions you know like the one that always got me was the epic of Gilgamesh and the story of Noah in the arc they're so similar yeah it's like it's like really it's like I wonder what really happened and my speculation is Totally speculation is there probably was some sort of a great catastrophe a long time ago.

[422] But of course, in every giant tsunami or flood, it's not everyone that dies.

[423] Some people are going to live.

[424] And the people that live, they're going to have to have some story for how they lived.

[425] And, you know, a couple generations in when everybody's still living like a monkey, you know, running around collecting fruit, trying to get their goats to fuck so they can kill them and eat them, you know, and just wondering how they got, like, we seem really intelligent.

[426] How did we get to this shitty point?

[427] Like, how come none of you fucks have figured out tools or clothing or houses or anything yet?

[428] Well, a long time ago, Noah was the only person in the one.

[429] We are the child, children of Noah.

[430] They don't even take into account that, you know, how many people were with Noah?

[431] Everybody came from Noah?

[432] Where's black people come from?

[433] What about Chinese people?

[434] How does that happen?

[435] How long does it take before?

[436] I mean, Noah only supposedly was a couple thousand years ago, right?

[437] What was that?

[438] 3 ,000 years ago or something like that?

[439] Suddenly you have like 6 billion people.

[440] How is that possible?

[441] the fuck is that that's the dumbest shit ever but it's probably the original story was probably an actual event like I think most of those those depictions were actual events that just got distorted you know the the telephone game like you tell a friend and he tells a friend what is it called operator operator yeah I mean by the time you get to the last person that's actually funny that you bring it up because it's one of the ways in which I bring up sources when we talk about religion in class and I bring up when I speak of the Bible, I tell them, you know, how do you come out?

[442] How do you know that this is the real stuff?

[443] And I tell them, you know, really, we have been talking about an oral traditions for generations before anybody write them down.

[444] And I ask them, have you guys ever played operator?

[445] You know, do you know how that works?

[446] And then you end up, so picture playing operator for maybe 50 years and then you record all the answers.

[447] And then 200 years later, somebody come around and look at the answer and decide which ones are true and which ones are not and that's the word of God for you yeah like wow tried deciphering that and then people will fight to the death of course over those those beliefs a little comma put here or there that changed the meaning that's i need to cut off your bolts and burn the stake over it well how about the fact that you know like even the shit that was written down when they wrote it down in ancient hebrew ancient hebrew is a very bizarre language and it doesn't have, they don't have numbers.

[448] So letters double as numbers.

[449] So there's a numerical meaning to words.

[450] There's a different grasp to the words that we can really barely comprehend.

[451] And these words, numerical content was very important for the actual meaning, like the word God and the word love.

[452] They have the same numerical content.

[453] And there was, you know, a translation from that to last, and then to Greek and if they're doing that I mean Jesus Christ what it what are they gonna I mean how do you even know what the fuck was the original work oh yeah exactly on the telephone after you played for the long and somebody decided then you translate it in a bunch of languages and then it's like no there are so many filters to go through that who the hell knows what it was at the beginning and people have to make decisions you know like they have to decide like what goes in and what goes out you know and how to like the King James version and and you know the whole idea behind the New Testament.

[454] It's just so preposterous.

[455] If you find out how it was created, it was Constantine, a bunch of bishops, right?

[456] I mean, Constantine was a gangster basically because he was just about, you know, controlling powers, not in enemies, and he's the guy who pushed the religious reform that bring Christianity as well.

[457] I don't know, that's the guy you want to have in your corner.

[458] Yeah, that's the guy that's creating the Bible.

[459] Are you fucking crazy?

[460] It's amazing because, you know, people will say, if you bring up the Bible, up crazy stuff.

[461] Oh, that's the Old Testament.

[462] We go by the New Testament.

[463] The New Testament was written by a fucking murderer.

[464] And even that is bullshit because it's, they only say that about the Old Testament when the Old Testament is so obviously over the top nuts that it's embarrassing.

[465] But then any time it says something that they want, that's not in the New Testament.

[466] It's like, hey, it's in the Bible.

[467] But I'm like, no, wait, that's the book you just told me that it doesn't count.

[468] No, but when it says something I like, then it counts.

[469] How do you deal with that as, you know, as.

[470] you know, when you're trying to, when people are teaching it and when you're trying to, you know, study theology, how do you, I mean, how does anybody go, why?

[471] I mean, it's, how many people who are actually studying theology are religious and how many of them get to a point where they become agnostic?

[472] I guess it depends where they do it.

[473] You know, if they do it as some hardcore Christian school, well, that's going to be one type of clientele.

[474] if they do it more in public schools.

[475] When I first started teaching the history of religions class, I thought, shit, what did I get myself into?

[476] I was all excited until five minutes before, and then I'm like, they are going to kill me. Do you worry about that?

[477] With, like, Muslims are like the most...

[478] The reality is that the people who take that stuff are already open -minded.

[479] Otherwise, they wouldn't be taking it because they don't want to hear it.

[480] So most of the people who do show up are the ones who have a more open -minded approach and so on, so they are cool.

[481] you know they there are people who are willing to chat and engage and so on if you if you have a mind and if you can think and you start studying religion it's almost impossible to not be agnostic yeah I mean it's almost realistically again nobody knows shit yeah wanting some kind of absolute answer where there is none it's just showed that you are so damn fearful that you just want to ignore any evidence in order to decide I need some certain it's also a very weird characteristic that people have to need closure and to need a side to be on.

[482] Even though there's no answer yet.

[483] We haven't reached that point yet.

[484] There's a door you have to open.

[485] That door is death.

[486] When that door opens, you'll get some more information, but who knows?

[487] You might not even.

[488] Maybe not.

[489] You might just be a baby in 1950, you know?

[490] You know what I'm saying?

[491] Yeah.

[492] Look, it's bizarre enough that you're a person.

[493] It's bizarre enough that you use your eyeballs to judge distance.

[494] You have these fucking organs inside.

[495] skull that measure light and distance and they figure out exactly precisely how far away you are from things and that allows you to get in metal boxes with rubber wheels and that's just as bizarre as coming back as a baby in the 50s you know everything we do is bizarre no in fact the universe is amazing i mean it's so damn weird that it's beyond anything i can understand and precisely because i respect it and i'm in all of it trying to make it all fit in my little box of how everything is supposed to work is bullshit.

[496] The best quote I ever heard of it from JDS Haldane who said not only is the universe queer than you suppose it's queer than you can suppose.

[497] I can sign up for that.

[498] Yeah, that's it right?

[499] That's it.

[500] It's fucking what is what the fuck is that?

[501] Yeah.

[502] Ridiculous so when you got involved in religion did you originally get involved with it because from an archaeological standpoint?

[503] No it was like I got involved with just about everything that's completely by chance.

[504] I mean, I was into it.

[505] I would read it for myself.

[506] I would read mainly a lot of Eastern philosophy and stuff like that that I was into, but I would read for the hell of it and somebody then when they asked me, hey man, we need somebody to teach this thing.

[507] Can you do it?

[508] I'm like, no, not really.

[509] And they're like, no, come on, you're kind of in Renaissance man, you know a lot of shit.

[510] Do it.

[511] Like, okay, sure.

[512] And I jump on and I'm like, hey, I love this stuff.

[513] This is fun.

[514] I got to talk about all the stuff I like and this is awesome.

[515] And so then I started reading more and more.

[516] And, uh, but I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, I read my stuff before to begin with.

[517] You know, in a moment of pure perversion, I decided to read the entire Bible cover to cover when I was 18.

[518] Oh, wow.

[519] Painful experiences of my life.

[520] But it's woke me up, though, when I got to this part, the Song of Solomon.

[521] There's, I don't know how to hell that book ended up in the Bible.

[522] It's awesome.

[523] It's like one of the best things.

[524] All of a sudden, you have 10, 15.

[525] I forgot how many pages where they don't mention God ones.

[526] They don't mention priests.

[527] They don't mention anything.

[528] It's just this super passionate, erotic love poem between a man and a woman.

[529] A woman we enjoy sex as well.

[530] It's also from her point of view, which is completely unheard of in the rest of the Bible.

[531] And it's just this celebration of sex, essentially.

[532] And it's just like, I always like, how the hell did this end up in there, you know?

[533] And my theory is that one of the guys who were copying all the scriptures, got drunk one night, and took the wrong scroll and got his homemade porn there and put it there by mistake.

[534] It's awesome.

[535] You know, it's amazing.

[536] Do you know of John Marco Allegro's work?

[537] I heard of him.

[538] I heard of him a bunch, but I haven't read him actually directly.

[539] He's a guy that was one of the people that was working on the Dead Sea Scrolls, who's working on deciphering it.

[540] And he was the only agnostic out of the group.

[541] And he wrote a book called, we wrote a couple of them.

[542] One of them was called the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth.

[543] And the first one was called the Sacred Mushroom in the Cross.

[544] And that one's a fascinating book.

[545] He believes that the entire works of the Christian religion were originally mushroom.

[546] It was about mushroom eating and psychedelic drugs and ritual sex and about fertility rituals and making sure that they kept breeding and that women kept having babies.

[547] Shit, those things went wrong.

[548] Isn't that amazing that?

[549] And he said, he tracks down the word mushroom, or the word Jesus, rather, to an ancient Sumerian word, the roots of it being an ancient Sumerian word that means a mushroom covered in God's semen.

[550] And that the idea, he believes, and this is, I mean, he's making a big reach that I don't think unless you have some sort of serious education in language history, you could totally even grasp the argument.

[551] But what he's saying is that what they used to call mushrooms, it was like God would come on the earth when it would rain.

[552] And then mushrooms would grow out of that.

[553] They would eat them.

[554] They'd have these incredible psychedelic experiences because of that.

[555] And so that was Christ.

[556] So Christ was a mushroom that was covered in God's semen.

[557] Well, I mean, you have stuff.

[558] You have a religious around the world where anything from Peota to how you ask, to a lot of psychedelic substances.

[559] Amanita Moscaria, the mushroom itself, a bunch of things that have been.

[560] It's central to people's religion because they open up all these wars and so on.

[561] And probably the origins of a lot of the stories and a lot of the experiences.

[562] No wonder you start seeing weird gods flying around.

[563] Especially back when it was hard to get food.

[564] Oh yeah.

[565] You know, it was difficult.

[566] People were hunter -gatherers, you know, essentially before religion was written down.

[567] People were hunting.

[568] I mean, they were supposed to be hunter and gatherers up until like, what, 10 ,000 years ago?

[569] 10 ,000 years, something like that.

[570] Although that's coming into dispute.

[571] You know, they found a fucking fishing hooks and fishing line and tuna bones, tuna from 40 ,000 years ago.

[572] Weird.

[573] And they don't know, they don't, they've never thought that people were capable of doing this.

[574] But now they're thinking that up to 40 ,000 years ago, people were getting in boats, and they were going hundreds of miles into the ocean.

[575] Yep.

[576] And they were catching tuna, dude.

[577] Tuna!

[578] 40 ,000 years ago, they were in boats catching tuna.

[579] Like, they have no idea that people were doing that.

[580] This was, this is a complete, like, new revelation.

[581] It's like going to rewrite history.

[582] because they I mean what kind of fishing line do you have that you're making 42 ,000 years ago that you can pull a fucking thousand pound tuna out of hundreds of feet of water and you've got a hook and some meat what is going on man how is that possible we might have to like rewire or rewrite the whole I mean I have a very strong feeling that over the next few years there's going to be more and more evidence like this that makes people want to push back the origins.

[583] Have you heard of Gobeckley -Tepi?

[584] This new structure that they found in Turkey is another one where they're thinking they're going to have to push back the origins of civilization because it's at least 12 ,000 years old and it's these huge like sculpted stone columns and they have all these animals that are drawn on it that don't even exist where you know in Turkey so these animals like weren't even supposed to be in the fossil record from that back then.

[585] So what the belief is they're the current where they're trying to to say now is that this was made by hunter and gatherers and a lot of people going come on man like what the fuck is this this is giant yeah just the fact that someone made something like this 13 ,000 years ago when we never thought people were making stuff like this right you we might have to go wait a minute how much of this is really left over is there a bunch of stuff we haven't found yet and if there is and we do find it eventually there's going to be a point in time where they're going to have to say I think we've been around longer than we think not totally and goes back to the we don't know shit right yeah that's why we are rewriting history all the time because I mean, that's why you know, you read history books and you have like the last 50 years is this tick and then the first 20 ,000 years is like, okay, we were a year for a while and then 50 years ago, this happened.

[586] And he's like, okay, because we don't know much.

[587] Well, we also, we look so much different than anything else here.

[588] You know, we are some kind of an ape.

[589] But God damn, we look different than the rest of the apes.

[590] How long did this take?

[591] How long did it take for us to look like this?

[592] You know, are you sure?

[593] Are you sure it's been a million years?

[594] Maybe it's been two.

[595] and if it's been two that changes a lot of shit you know we don't really know this is a lot of guessing going on man and how many I mean did was it a clean separation between us and the apes no or maybe that ape still look hard what if there's something super advanced more advanced than us we just haven't met it yet and it's here just hiding from us like oh those crazy monkeys it's just you know it's another couple thousand years ahead of us maybe that's what the aliens are probably not right so um this marco allegro guy met a lot of controversy when he was uh trying to propose that religion uh might have had its roots in psychedelic experiences why do you think people are so reluctant to to take in that possibility because i think any kind of psychedelic experience is very individual you know it's hard to build that church on it in a sense that it's hard to have a dogma because it changes so much from one experience to the next to the next from one person to the next.

[596] And people, bottom line, love dogma.

[597] That's the thing they reassure them.

[598] Direct experience doesn't reassure them because they have to base it on their own feelings, on their own instinct, on their own, and it's too scary for people.

[599] You know, you hear people talk so much shit about how we like freedom.

[600] Most people are terrified of freedom.

[601] Most people hate freedom.

[602] You know, they like the idea of being free, but they ran to their chains anytime they can because they need something to keep them safe, to make them feel like, they are okay, little more.

[603] You're going to be fine.

[604] ritual.

[605] So I mean, anything based on direct experience.

[606] I mean, think about martial arts.

[607] How long it took for people super attached to this is how we do things.

[608] This is the truth of combat.

[609] When in martial arts, you can try it.

[610] You know, it's not like a religion where there's not as much direct evidence.

[611] You know, you can try it and steal people who stick their head in the sand and no want to see it.

[612] That some shit just didn't work.

[613] Well, it's fascinating that it's one of the most fundamental forms of competition.

[614] And yet we're way better at it now.

[615] And we have evolved it now over the last 20 years more than at any time in human history.

[616] Absolutely.

[617] So you've got to think people should have known a long time ago, but not really.

[618] Right.

[619] Because fighting is difficult, and it's dangerous and it's scary, and most people try to avoid it if and whenever possible.

[620] Right.

[621] So there's not a lot of testing it out.

[622] Right.

[623] And it wasn't until something like the ultimate fighting championship came along that we really found out what actually works.

[624] Now we know what fighting is.

[625] Now we really know what fighting is.

[626] That's amazing.

[627] When you think about it, just as an archaeological thing, you know the fact that over the last 20 years they figured it out yeah that's amazing it's amazing even though the other day i totally agree with what you said but i just saw this scene that crack me up i saw this roman sculpture a few days ago from in a picture where there's this uh the naked guys wrestling no not even there's like this half man half horse uh how it was called in english center centaur who's put in some dude in a hill hook what's a minotaur what's a centaur is the centaur is the centaur is the centaur is the centaur is the centaur is the centaur's the one with the bull the centaur is the And that guy is put in a hill hook onto somebody.

[628] Oh, really?

[629] Really a hill hook by a center or 2 ,000 years ago.

[630] Wow.

[631] Yeah, I bet they knew a lot of submissions back then.

[632] I bet they had a couple of them.

[633] There were some pretty cool things.

[634] But no, I agree with you.

[635] I mean, the evolution of the last 20 years is unparalleled with tennis and girls before.

[636] That's why my dream would be to be able to have the UFC of religions.

[637] Where, rather than these people going off forever about, Islam is awesome.

[638] No, you suck.

[639] Buddhism is great.

[640] He's like, just shut up.

[641] Get in a cage.

[642] I sit back.

[643] Have a beer.

[644] see what happens, and that we can stop whining forever.

[645] Nobody accepts losses, though.

[646] Not in bad departments.

[647] They always think the guy got lucky and they want to come back and, you know, Islam's going to make a comeback, bitch.

[648] Yeah, exactly.

[649] But wouldn't that be fun?

[650] That would be awesome?

[651] Well, it's very strange to me when guys switch religions.

[652] Like, you know, like a dude will convert and become, you know, a Jew or, you know, convert and become something else or a Christian or a Catholic.

[653] Based on what?

[654] More evidence?

[655] Well, they found a better group of people to hang out with.

[656] Yeah, I think.

[657] You know, that's what it is.

[658] It's like when you change nationalities, you know, it's a very controversial thing.

[659] You know, when you become a U .S. citizen or, you know, did you become a U .S. citizen?

[660] Was that a weird thing for you?

[661] Not really.

[662] I mean, for one, I didn't have to give up Italian citizenship, so it really doesn't change much.

[663] I can still travel.

[664] I can still go back to.

[665] See, that's badass if you get dual citizenship.

[666] It's cool.

[667] Because that way I didn't have this weird.

[668] Like, oh, shit, I'm cutting my, cutting the bridges with the past.

[669] That's, so I didn't have to do that.

[670] So it wasn't too weird, you know.

[671] It's just like, ah, stupid piece of paper that I can go in line faster next time.

[672] I got a friend of mine who's got that Canadian -American dual citizenship thing.

[673] That's dope.

[674] He goes back and forth with no problems.

[675] He can work over there and work over here.

[676] It's beautiful.

[677] Yep, yeah, yeah.

[678] That's a very good gig.

[679] But when you signed up to the evil empire, when you signed up the final documents, we were like, oh, my goodness.

[680] Look, I've just joined up with the baddest gang in human history.

[681] And that's really what you joined.

[682] You joined the United States.

[683] I always say that the people in the United States that we are living inside the balls of the dick that's fucking the world.

[684] I like your imagery.

[685] We're not a part of it, but we essentially take residence inside the balls of the great dick that's fucking the world.

[686] 100 different military bases in 100 different countries or whatever the fuck we've got now.

[687] I love to write that down.

[688] That's awesome.

[689] That's what it is.

[690] You know, you just joined the best bot.

[691] This is the best bot.

[692] It's safe here, man. We're just throwing a lot of push.

[693] everybody's back in the fuck up we've got this thing circled everywhere else is quite dangerous so you got into this religion you started teaching and you wrote this book now in writing this book was there anything that you found that you found that shocked even you with all the shit that you know about religion no I mean I've seen enough stuff that by now is kind of hard do you ever get in arguments with fundamentalist people no because I think one of the thing I tell them is that I'm not telling you anything about any single one religion because within any religion there's so much variation that they disagree just about everything among Christians, among Muslims.

[694] I'm like, I'm just making a general point about where a certain belief has led to.

[695] Do it.

[696] You want to identify with that?

[697] Good for you.

[698] You don't.

[699] But I'm not saying your religion equal this.

[700] I'm saying that has been the - This is the contents of your religion.

[701] So people mellow out a little because they don't take it as personal and then I try to make it kind of funny and just play and laugh about it.

[702] So having a sense of humor usually mellow them out a little.

[703] So it doesn't get to...

[704] I've even had some hardcore, weird fundamentals that I thought they were out to kill me that suddenly they love me by the end of class.

[705] And I'm like, really?

[706] Have you been listening to...

[707] And that's where I think the Italian accent come in.

[708] I don't think they understood a thing I said, but it sounded cool.

[709] And so they were...

[710] Well, you're a smooth talker, and you obviously are well educated, so the words come out nice and it just seems...

[711] And you know, you're basically talking about the Bible and their little brains lock up.

[712] That is a problem, too.

[713] Isn't it a problem?

[714] There's some people are just dumb.

[715] Yep.

[716] I mean, I'm afraid that's the majority of people.

[717] Yeah, and I don't think it's, I think a lot of people don't want to believe that it's a biological issue.

[718] Right.

[719] A lot of people want to believe that it's an education issue or an environmental issue or cultural issue.

[720] And it may be, but it also might be, it might be biological.

[721] It might be, look, there's people that are born and they're seven feet tall.

[722] Right.

[723] You know, there's people that are born, they have giant dicks.

[724] There's, you know, there's a great variation of human beings.

[725] When I just see this giant wave of sloth, you know, you see like a giant percentage of people in this country.

[726] I don't know if it's 20%.

[727] I don't know what the number is.

[728] We just look at them like, my God, you're like barely thinking.

[729] Right.

[730] You're barely a person.

[731] Like, are you just lazy?

[732] Or do you have like a 9 -volt battery kicking inside your fucking head?

[733] You know, they might have a 9 -volt battery.

[734] They might have shit genes and a poor, like, database to draw from genetically.

[735] No one in their, you know, their genes.

[736] their ancestry, has had been any different than them?

[737] And they've gotten this far, so there's no need to adapt.

[738] No. Yeah, so it's like, you know, you come across a wild pig or you come across a pig that's in a pen, and they're completely different animals.

[739] Yeah, completely, absolutely.

[740] Maybe that's what's going on.

[741] And in that case, we're fucked.

[742] Yeah.

[743] Because actually, maybe that's why wars keep going on.

[744] Maybe that's why religion keeps working.

[745] Evolution, right?

[746] Yeah, maybe it's like, it's almost impossible.

[747] Have you ever seen that movie, Idiocracy?

[748] No, I haven't seen it.

[749] But I heard it's funny.

[750] You really need to see that.

[751] movie by now, Joe.

[752] I know.

[753] I got upset because a couple of people accused me of stealing the idea for that bit that I had for my special, the bit about dumb people outbreeding smart people.

[754] Right.

[755] First of all, that's not an original concept.

[756] People have been thinking that forever.

[757] And second of all, my special came out before that movie came out.

[758] And it was something I worked on for years before the special.

[759] It's just that, you know, everybody's had that thought.

[760] So because of that, I bought it and I never watched it.

[761] I didn't want to see how close it is to my shit.

[762] You are pasted about it.

[763] Well, you know, you get in these, these defending yourself.

[764] There's no need to defend yourself.

[765] It's like, it's gross.

[766] When you're, that's one of the, the, the things about communicating with people online is the anonymity and the, you know, just deal.

[767] Sometimes you're dealing with people.

[768] You're just dealing with, like, why are you behaving this way?

[769] Like, why are you communicating this way?

[770] This is the only way you do, the only reason why people would communicate that way is because there's a lack of social repercussions.

[771] There's no. You can say anything.

[772] you don't feel it you don't feel it you know it's like the reason why people in their car can give you the fuck you when they wouldn't do that if they were just in the street a few feet from you no but in a car right next to you they just because there's a window and because there's a door and a window and a door and some space in between that they're like fuck you you fucking bitch you wouldn't do why you wouldn't do that in person you'd be a crazy person to do that in person but there's a detachment because of the automobiles we can't feel each other right we don't see each other you know we see we're separated by some some shit.

[773] We know that it's safe.

[774] It's the same feeling that you feel when you're at the zoo.

[775] And you know, you don't feel uncomfortable when you're standing next to a fucking bear.

[776] You're supposed to be shitting your pants when you're looking at a bear, man. That is not normal to get uncomfortable looking at a bear.

[777] You should be terrified, man. That fucking thing is only a few feet from you.

[778] You trust that glass?

[779] Let's get out of here.

[780] Yeah, man. It's the repercussions of dealing with people on the internet.

[781] It's very annoying.

[782] Do you post stuff on the internet?

[783] Do you have blogs or anything at that time?

[784] I mean, my life has been so that I'm crazy lately that I'm just constantly teaching and writing teaching a bunch I mean I let a lot of bad shit happen because my my wife died a few months ago oh I'm sorry to hear that man two year old baby so you know you can imagine that alone takes a hell of a lot of time and energy and everything and then you know still working teaching writing doing so I'm just like you know I'm you know I'll keep up on you know email Facebook kind of stuff but I've been trying to save whatever energy have left because there's not a whole lot by the end of the day, you know, you're doing seven million things at once.

[785] Yeah, you might, yeah, do you take a lot of vitamins and eat healthy?

[786] Yeah, I'm trying to work on that because I feel it in my body in the last few months.

[787] It's just too much stress, too much everything.

[788] So I'm just trying.

[789] I've been used to, you know, I worked out forever for 20 years.

[790] Now this last year I've hardly been able to.

[791] And so, of course, you know, all of this stuff then takes a toll.

[792] So I'm trying to, you know, not become, you know, the unabomber or something, cutting away from everything and everybody.

[793] But at the same time, save some energy for just breathing you know yeah that's important man it's important it's very hard especially people with children what people don't understand when they have a baby uh is you you now have a human being you're taking care of it's not like a pet no like you have to be with it 24 hours a day if it's little and you have to take a shit you know what you have to do you have to lock it in the room with you while you're taking a shit and you have to like keep it from pulling the things out of the drawers and killing itself like climbing up on something that they can't support you know it's like it's a constant like it's a lot of work yeah so I'm amazed that anybody has kids I'm like how hell does anybody do this you know and I love her I mean she's not even a hard baby you know she's an easy sweet babe but still Jesus Christ it takes so much energy it's yeah it takes a lot of energy and what you get out of it they're little drug dispensers what you get out of it is love in the purest form possible cut straight from the source the love that you get from babies man oh my God you don't people don't do don't have kids really never truly understand this experience because you can think you love a dog because you do.

[794] I love my dogs.

[795] I see them.

[796] They're sweet and they give me kisses and I'm happy but you don't there's a feeling that you get when it's a baby that's your own flesh and blood and they're just little bundles of love and they're little bundles of happiness and you can directly influence them.

[797] You can directly, you know, shape their life and they're looking for you to do that and they need you around all the time and they constantly want you to hold them and pick them up and touch them.

[798] You know, they're constantly screaming for you to touch them, you know.

[799] It's amazing to watch that from the source, you know, to see, you know, a life form, a unique life form with no language that's communicating with just intent and noises.

[800] It wants you to do things for it.

[801] And what it wants you to do is real simple.

[802] It wants love.

[803] It wants to play.

[804] It doesn't want to be left alone.

[805] Makes sense.

[806] Yeah.

[807] So much work.

[808] Yeah.

[809] So how do you keep saying?

[810] Do you have like a workout?

[811] do you do or meditation or yoga or anything I think honestly I'm right now I've been burning the candle on both hands so I don't know that I have to go to answer to that because I don't think I've been doing a good job at it I think I've been handling things but I'm feeling lately my body kind of giving me signals like hey man you're going over the edge you need to turn it down you don't smoke cigarettes or anything do you no that's good so now then I mean the workout has always been my thing but then again when you don't have the physical time anymore when everything so I need to find the times to do it And so that's kind of what I'm working on on being able to just train again and do all this stuff.

[812] Because, I mean, with martial arts, I've been doing 20 years.

[813] It's been like one of the things that you do day in and day out forever and suddenly you don't do that anymore.

[814] You're like, oh, shit, your body goes through withdrawal.

[815] You know, you feel weird.

[816] You feel so it's key to do it because it doesn't matter how busy you get.

[817] It's key to your health in a way.

[818] Yeah, I remember I tore a ligament and my leg was the first, like, real serious injury that took me out for months and months.

[819] I tore a knee ligament and I had to get it reconstruct.

[820] and then I didn't work out for a long time and it was the first time in my life that I hadn't done that right you know and I had always used martial arts for blowing off steam and and now all the sudden I was at this place where I was like wow I just you know I'm not in control of my emotions as well I'm like I've more short temper I'm not and I don't feel my body the same way like you know when you use your body a lot you develop this like real tight relationship with your body like how it moves and and it It makes you want to eat healthy.

[821] It makes you want to take care of it because you realize that it's communicating with you.

[822] It's communicating with you through movement and through your desire and intent to do something and its actual ability to perform what your desire and intent is.

[823] And you get this relationship with your body and I didn't have it anymore.

[824] I had no relationship with my body.

[825] I was like, wow, this is weird.

[826] Every day I just wake up and eat and piss and go through, you know what I'm saying?

[827] I just go through my, that's what I'm using my body for.

[828] It's just a vehicle.

[829] I'm not communicating with it anymore.

[830] Welcome to the life of most people in the world.

[831] Yeah, you communicate with your body through things, you know, through sex, through martial arts, through dance, through, you know, you communicate when you require your body to move in very specific ways.

[832] You know, and there's a consciousness to that that's, you know, very uniquely its own, the consciousness of the full, the full focus and concentration of someone utilizing their body, you know, because I really do believe that that is an element of the whole and that you have to, in order to be optimally, healthy.

[833] You have to have the hole together.

[834] You have to have the mind must be healthy.

[835] The consciousness must be healthy.

[836] The body must be healthy.

[837] Totally.

[838] Yeah.

[839] And I went through a long period.

[840] It was like six months, you know, rehabbing my knee after the surgery and everything like that where I still couldn't kick a bag.

[841] I couldn't box.

[842] I couldn't, couldn't run.

[843] That really sucks.

[844] Yeah, it makes you realize, it makes you really fucking appreciate your body when you can though.

[845] Seriously.

[846] So what martial arts were you doing?

[847] It's funny.

[848] I started out originally, you know, with watching the Kung Fu TV series too many times I think so I was just like I want to go on a mountain with Master Yoda showing me how to fly in the air and you know so I started out with a lot of Chinese martial arts and then I progressively moved to more self -defense oriented thing and then kind of the opposite of what most people do we start out with very aggressive and then they mellow out I started out all it's all about zen and poetry and thing and now I'm just like shut up let's just wrestle you know just all about combat sports and submission grapple and MMA, that kind of thing.

[849] Well, I think, you know, there is, there's definitely a mindset to the Eastern martial arts that is being lost in the transition to combat sports, you know, to look at it in combat sports.

[850] There's something to be gained from that mindset.

[851] What people don't understand is that, like, the ancient Japanese, the martial arts masters, you know, the reason why they practice Zen thinking wasn't because it's, just, you know, a thing they did that, you know, really doesn't need to be replicated today.

[852] No, what they were doing was in order to have a way, in order to have a way of thinking of life, they were disciplining the mind to behave on very specific frequencies and to have control over itself and that in your discipline and in your honor and your code, you have control over your emotions, you have control over your body better, you have control over your psyche better because you have an ethic because you have a code and that there's there's a reason for that this is it benefits you in combat it benefits you to be sturdy of mind so in order to practice this mental discipline it actually puts you in a better position for victory it's why it's there shit i've done i remember i'm not i think i'm kind of a wimpetard so every time i've competed yeah i'm just no i get i get freaked out i get scared when i have to fight you know some guys are you know, you read Chuck Liddell or Randy, these guys who speak that they don't know what it means to be afraid.

[853] I'm like, what the fuck do you mean?

[854] It's like the scariest thing in the world.

[855] This guy has been training forever to knock your head off.

[856] So I walked up and the days before the time when I step on the mat, I feel like everything in my body is shutting down.

[857] I'm about to die kind of feeling.

[858] Everything freezes.

[859] And so I can see how, you know, the whole Zen thing is not about having some strange mystical thought.

[860] It's about how do you deal with the fact that this is what you're going to do and you do it without too much attachment or because attachment will breed fear fear will shut you down and then you'll get killed yeah you got to control your body yeah that's really ultimately what it is and the the ability to control your mind is the same as the ability to control your body yeah because if you can't control your mind you can't control your emotions they can run amok your possibilities the real problem is you're intelligent that's the real problem and it's true and when you're intelligent you realize hey we don't have to do this.

[861] This is an elective choice you're making to go and enter your body into some physical combat with another man. Let's get the fuck out of here.

[862] That's intelligent.

[863] That's intelligent.

[864] You're, you're a smart person to think that way.

[865] Your body thinks it's going to fight and your body doesn't want to do it.

[866] So it starts, you know, just essentially trying to pull you out of it.

[867] But at the same time is like the most instructive thing in the world because it teaches you to get rid of attachments because, you know, you live with attachment of fears and all these things about you hope that the universe is not going to do this and that to you and that you can and the reality is in combat like in life you don't control jack shit you do the best you can and then it's out of your hands and you need to be able to live through it despite the obvious fear that kicks in from self -preservation and so it's like hey man britt maybe you die in a second so what yeah it's not good it doesn't feel good to work hard but it's good to work hard you know it's good it's good to train hard it's good to push your body and your spirit you know and that is a part of it your spirit You know, I have friends that are men that have, and I'm not talking about you, Brian, that are, that have no experience whatsoever in any sort of difficult physical endeavor.

[868] And it haunts them.

[869] It haunts them.

[870] Like, they get insecure when they're around guys who are athletic, they'll say, you know, dicky things.

[871] And it's like to disarm this person of their masculinity because they've never truly faced their own physicality.

[872] And they're terrified of it.

[873] It's fascinating.

[874] It's fascinating to watch.

[875] Watch them have like these little weird sort of semi meltdowns and they're around, you know, strong men.

[876] It's like the least you train, the tougher you think you are.

[877] That's the way it goes usually.

[878] You know, it's like, you can build all these stories about, oh, I'm this tough guy.

[879] Then when you step up, you quickly find out.

[880] Those guys are funny when they want to talk about, I'm undefeated in bar fights.

[881] Tell you that, I fought 15 times.

[882] It's like, yeah, fine.

[883] Oh, you find 15 people.

[884] They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

[885] Or you're soccer punching people.

[886] When your friend is distracted.

[887] You don't train at all, and you've been knocking out 15 dudes.

[888] Okay.

[889] You're going to get fucked up if you keep this up.

[890] Yeah.

[891] One day, you're going to run into Boss Routen at the bar, and he's going to fucking do one of those instructional videos on your head.

[892] Bang, bang, bang, sank!

[893] Can you imagine?

[894] You're like to put the fingers in the asshole, and you run into a guy like Boss Routen at a bar.

[895] Oh, what a mistake.

[896] Yep.

[897] Especially if he tries to be nice to you, and you mistake that for him being weak.

[898] Yep, yep.

[899] Whoopsies.

[900] Yeah, we were watching.

[901] I had Eddie Bravo.

[902] here the other day and we were watching Minotaro Nogara versus Bob Sapp.

[903] Oh, that's awesome.

[904] That's classic.

[905] Is that classic?

[906] Brian, you saw it too.

[907] It's really, it was a cartoon fight, a real cartoon fight.

[908] And one of the, in my opinions, the best example of technique over power that this guy, Minotaro, this 230 -pound guy was ever to beat this 350 -plus pound monster of a man who didn't even look real.

[909] Right.

[910] That is an amazing, amazing fight.

[911] And that's a, I mean, that's a guy, Minotaro, he's a real martial artist.

[912] Seriously.

[913] He's a real, like, true warrior.

[914] You know, a guy who became a master of Jiu -Jitsu and then became a great striker to add on to it and was just willing to fight anybody.

[915] And I think it started way back in the day because, I mean, when he was, I forget 10, 11, whatever.

[916] When he had a car accident and he was a, in a hospital for a year, where they tell.

[917] Maybe you'll never walk again.

[918] Maybe you'll walk, but maybe definitely no sports.

[919] And the guy goes on to become an MMA champion and say, let's say something about the guy's personality.

[920] I remember when he was at the top of his game, man, when he was triangling everybody.

[921] And, you know, you just saw Jiu -Jitsu at a level that you had never seen before.

[922] Like, all of a sudden this badass heavyweight who was tough as fuck, who had a wicked guard, a wicked Jiu -Jitsu game, was hitting anaconda chokes on dudes and fucking strangling him from his back.

[923] like whoa this dude is on another level that was like to me like a real victory for technique yeah and mixed martial arts in my opinion minotaro like embodies like this era where people like learn like whoa that's possible too like that was we were not seeing guys on on the highest levels submitting guys the way minotara was you know he's so awesome how about the crow cop fight he gets battered by crow cop in the first round fucking smashed he gets head kicks by the guy who knocked out everybody with head kicks.

[924] And somehow another, he eats it and he's okay.

[925] And he gets up at the bottom of the round.

[926] At the end of the round, he gets head kicked and dropped like seconds before the round ends.

[927] And he thought the referee stopped the fight.

[928] And the referee was like, nope, the round's over.

[929] He's like, okay, he didn't stop this fucking fight.

[930] And he goes back and he takes him down.

[931] He arm bars him in the second round.

[932] But he took a beating in that first round.

[933] Like, goddamn that dude is tough.

[934] You got to love those guys or Sakuraba or those guys with me through his crazy wars.

[935] Sakaraba, by the time his career was over, he was essentially going in to the ring with his legs mummified.

[936] Yeah, no, I was insane.

[937] His knees were so bad that he would have tape that would go all the way up to the top of his thigh and all the way down to his ankles.

[938] It was crazy.

[939] Yeah.

[940] That was another guy that was like a real, like, classic technique, technique and heart oversized guy.

[941] You remember when he fought Quinton Jackson and Quentin kept his laughing over and over and over and he got his back.

[942] Sacco was all relaxed and just flowing.

[943] I'm like, Jesus, how do you stay relaxed when some monster is lifting?

[944] Yeah, well, his jiu -jitsu was beautiful.

[945] He was so tough.

[946] He was so, like, willing to take punishment.

[947] You know, he was, he was technical, but he was also brave.

[948] You know, he's willing to take punishment.

[949] And essentially, really, he should have been 170 -pounder.

[950] Yep.

[951] I mean, he was walking around at 189 pounds without cutting any weight at all, and he was a little fat.

[952] And he was taking on heavy weights.

[953] Can you imagine a default at 17, what kind of a career he would have had?

[954] Dude, that guy fucking beat Conan Silviera with an arm bar.

[955] Remember that shit?

[956] Conan went for a fucking Camorra.

[957] He spun around, caught him an arm bar, bang!

[958] That was a pure victory of technique oversized.

[959] That was a clear example of that.

[960] He was an amazing fighter.

[961] And another one who was embodied that Japanese warrior spirit, you know, and that's what they loved about him.

[962] His willingness to go out there and throw it down with anybody.

[963] Anyone.

[964] Even Van der Le Silva who beat the fuck out of him three times.

[965] He kept stepping up.

[966] He kept stepping up, man. And that last one, when he got knocked out, and Van der Leight caught him with two punches.

[967] And it literally set him flying through the air as he skid unconscious on his back.

[968] Wow.

[969] Scary, scary.

[970] The Melvin Manhoof fight when he fought Melvin Manhoof?

[971] I know, Jesus, I feel bad for the guy.

[972] He just took so many beatings.

[973] Oh, my God.

[974] No one's taking more beatings in Sakaraba.

[975] Dude, Melvin Manhoof is a destroyer.

[976] When that guy starts teeing off on you, he's one of the most terrifying strikers in any martial art when he's attacking.

[977] He's just so strong and fast and just blasting Sakaraba.

[978] And the fucking guy came back after that and he kept fighting.

[979] Right.

[980] I mean, he's still fighting.

[981] Yeah.

[982] I know.

[983] I mean, I feel it's weird.

[984] It's perverted.

[985] Like, well, I want a scene fight, but then I want him to retire, you know.

[986] Oh, I would love him to retire.

[987] We could watch his old fights.

[988] Yeah, I think he was involved in so many fight of the year candidates, you know.

[989] I mean, even when he was broken up, when it was that, like a year ago or two years ago, when he had the fight with Galesig, I think he was, where he put the guy in a kneebar and the guy, like, hit him like 50 straight times.

[990] Yeah.

[991] No protection.

[992] And the guy stayed with it so he could get the knee bar and win the fight.

[993] How do you stay with that technique?

[994] Oh, he doesn't give a fuck.

[995] It's amazing.

[996] He's got unbelievable determination.

[997] What about the Zeromskis fight where his ear fell off?

[998] His ear literally, it's, the Sakaraba has these gigantic cauliflowered ears.

[999] So for people who don't know what that means, When you wrestle a lot or you get hit in the ear a lot, when it breaks up the tissue, it fills up with fluid and blood, and then it hardens.

[1000] It becomes almost like cartilage, like really thick stuff.

[1001] You have to have that shit cut out.

[1002] And a lot of guys, they get an ear that becomes like this.

[1003] I mean, literally looks like a mouse is under their skin.

[1004] And that's what it looked like with Sagra.

[1005] The whole thing was deformed.

[1006] Randy Couture actually uses his in grappling because it's hard.

[1007] Right.

[1008] So when he takes guys down, he'll actually like, shove his ear into parts of them and make them uncomfortable he'll fucking jab them with his ears man those are hard weapons on the side of his head it's really kind of crazy but Sakaraba's ear was really fucked up and it had always had tape on it it was always getting cut in training and shit and this dude hit him with something I forget what he hit him with but the fucking ear was hanging off of his head yeah it was just hanging off and Zeromsis was like dude your fucking ear like he even stopped fighting he was like whoa dude you might want to look at that what's going on here they stitched it up has he fought since then he did he's i hope he stops because he's not going to stop he's not going to stop but they're not going to have him stop right they're going to keep asking him to keep doing it and he'll get doing it but i mean if they were smart at least they would pair him with like old legends and then mellow matches that would even make sense at least they throw him in with werewolves yeah that's just fucked up is he um does he still smoke i you know i never know the reality you'd always hear the story about him's chain smoke and drinking all the time.

[1009] That's what I always heard.

[1010] I think that's true, man. Yeah, you think he trained hard, but I'm pretty sure he actually chained smoke and drank.

[1011] He loves that.

[1012] They need to make a movie about that guy.

[1013] He was amazing.

[1014] You know, there's something funny about Japanese culture, because they are so by the book in so many ways, but when the guys go off the model, they really go off.

[1015] Yeah, they get mohawks and tattoo their whole body.

[1016] There's one guy I love this guy that I put in, the book.

[1017] His name is EQ is the Zen master from like I want to say the 1300s, 1400 something like that.

[1018] And this is your book on the Warriors Pass?

[1019] No, this one is the one that's coming out this week.

[1020] Yeah, in the religion book.

[1021] This dude was the illegitimate son of the emperor of Japan and so they had to kind of his mom just hid him in a monastery somewhere so that he wouldn't get killed in Palance conspiracy trying to get rid of the possible hair.

[1022] So you know this poor kid grew up in the middle of this fucked up Zen monastery in the cold and whatever, just trying to stay alive.

[1023] And so, fine, you know, not the most fun in the world, but he grows up the way.

[1024] Absolute genius.

[1025] So everybody said, Jesus, nobody grasps Zen the way this guy does.

[1026] It's so smart.

[1027] It's so this, so that.

[1028] But precisely because he's so smart, he just flipped them off one day, and he decided when they give him in Zen, they have this thing they call the Certificate of Enlightenment, where a master certified that you are truly enlightened.

[1029] Wow.

[1030] He picked it up and he was like, certificate of enlightenment.

[1031] Are you fucking kidding me?

[1032] you know, he burned it, and he was like, come on, you know.

[1033] That is pretty preposterous.

[1034] They were trying to really mean and trying to keep him in the fold by giving him, you know, we'll make you abbot of this monastery and stuff.

[1035] A week later, nobody can find him.

[1036] They find this poem that he left behind saying basically how, oh, Jesus, a week in this monastery, I can take it anymore.

[1037] If anybody's looking for me, I'm either at the brothel or at the sake shop.

[1038] And that's the rest of his life.

[1039] He goes off being this kind of wandering teacher whose main passions are Zen, hookers and Saki and that's all that he loves What is his name?

[1040] EQ is I K -K -Y -U Wow It's my all -time hero I love the guy Oh, I love that He figured it out Yeah It sounds like my friend Bad Bobby Bad Bobby from Vancouver He figured it out Hooker isn't just Saki Yeah basically And to him Zen and it was all To him real Zen was living life with full awareness, that's Zen.

[1041] You can do it meditating in a mountain if that makes you feel good.

[1042] You can do it in a brothel if that makes you feel good.

[1043] It's about having full awareness.

[1044] It's not about what you're doing as much.

[1045] It's about whether you're awake and you are alive to what's going on.

[1046] Or whether you're going through the motion and you're not really there.

[1047] And whether or not you're just reacting to every single thing mindlessly around you.

[1048] By the way, there really is no true enlightenment.

[1049] Because even true enlightenment for a human is just true enlightenment for a human.

[1050] And our little brains can't really, we're not set up right.

[1051] We have, we are essentially just like this old shitty computer we have that's running all this equipment.

[1052] We really do not have the hardware to deal with the scenario at hand.

[1053] You know, we're fucked.

[1054] So even enlightenment for a person is just enlightenment for a person.

[1055] You know, like the best you can do is keep it together mildly.

[1056] You know, I mean, it's so funny.

[1057] It's like, you know, everybody is searching for that.

[1058] And what you're searching for is, you know, ultimately a better feeling about your experience.

[1059] experience here.

[1060] Right.

[1061] You know, that's what we're all searching for, whether it's through religion or through meditation or through yoga.

[1062] I have a friend who, their family was very religious until recently, a few years ago, they started to kind of, I don't know what brought them out of it, but they started kind of see it differently, and now they're experiencing their first year or two years completely away from their church.

[1063] And the wife is starting to get into yoga, and, you know, the dude is like, we experiment with a bunch of different things and trying to figure out what the fuck is going on in the world but it's weird to watch someone come out of it it's weird to watch someone go you know what maybe maybe this is a mistake here well you guys are nice i enjoy hanging out with you but shit come on like their their own mind has evolved their their personal consciousness has evolved past an ideology right yeah and that's a big decision to make very hard huge it's bigger than breaking up with a girlfriend it's right i don't know about that but no no close it depends on how religion you are religious you are but if you're really active with the church and then you're going to leave them it's enormous it doesn't get any bigger it also depends how tight that girl is yeah that's true right and whether not she's a freak whether or not you know just turn to lose for one day like she's loyal but you turn to lose for one day and she's in a fucking gang bang and you can't take that gang bang back and there's that thing where she always really wanted to get with a black eye but she never had and you know the moment she's loose Joe did you see that video of that octopus walking out of the water How creepy is that?

[1064] Well, you know, there's a video of an octopus climbing out of its aquarium, walking across the floor, and going up to another aquarium that's in the same room and eating fish and then climbing back in its aquarium.

[1065] Yeah.

[1066] The reason why I know this, I haven't seen it, but the reason why I know this is because a friend was trying to explain to me how intelligent octopuses are, that they can take food and put it in a jar, and the octopus will unscrew the jar and get at the food.

[1067] and that a guy was missing some of his tropical fish and he had a couple of fish tanks and one of them was right next to the octopus was right next to this one with like this really expensive fish this fucking octopus was climbing out climbing up into the next tank lifting the fucking lid up and getting inside and eating the fish and then climbing back to his place so nobody knows he thought about it's like listen if I hang out here this motherfucker is going to know that I get into this tank you know so the dude had to set up a camera he set up a camera and caught this octopus doing this.

[1068] Jesus.

[1069] Yeah.

[1070] I haven't seen the video though.

[1071] So it might be horseshit.

[1072] Might be internet legend.

[1073] Tweet it.

[1074] Yeah, tweet it.

[1075] It's a good story.

[1076] You, you, whoever's listening.

[1077] There's enough people listening.

[1078] We don't need to tweet this.

[1079] This is ridiculous.

[1080] I'm going to leave it at that, Brian.

[1081] No, I mean, I tweet it so I can see it.

[1082] I don't know.

[1083] Somebody, if they find it, folks, tweet it.

[1084] Yeah.

[1085] Somebody.

[1086] If it's out there.

[1087] It might not be out there.

[1088] It might not be real.

[1089] But, um, uh, how do we get on the subject of octopuses killing things climbing out and being intelligent wow you've seen the evidence for a cracking have you seen the evidence for a giant octopus of legend you know there's always been a legend of an octopus that can devour ships and you know a huge whale eating well they actually have found evidence of this thing like a wooden boy inside the octopus no they found they actually found whale bones and the whale bones are fucked up.

[1090] And so that means there's something that is big enough to go kill a goddamn whale.

[1091] And they also found fossilized imprints of giant suction cups.

[1092] And that's what leads them to believe that the possibility...

[1093] You see, the thing about an octopus is there's no bones, really.

[1094] There's nothing going to be left.

[1095] There's no fossilized octopus.

[1096] It's not like a bird or something else where you can get the structure of the animal.

[1097] It's essentially all soft tissue except for its beak.

[1098] So it dissolves.

[1099] It doesn't exist anymore.

[1100] But it was on the ocean floor that they had these imprints, these fossilized imprints of what looked like massive suction cups of a huge tentacle.

[1101] And by that, they're making this pretty reasonable hypothesis, you know, and the bones of the whale being all fucked up, and then these giant suction cups that are like, oh, there probably was this real monster that lived.

[1102] I mean, if there's a whale, just a whale is ridiculous enough.

[1103] It's pretty weird right there.

[1104] It's weird as it gets, man, a super smart, giant big thing.

[1105] They can't do anything, and it has to breathe air, you know?

[1106] Like, why?

[1107] It lives in the ocean, and it breathes air.

[1108] Like, what?

[1109] I know.

[1110] That's so stupid, you know?

[1111] The design there didn't quite work out.

[1112] It's ridiculous.

[1113] It lives in the water, but yet can't, it can go down the water for a little bit, but it's got to come up for air.

[1114] And it can't even stop.

[1115] It can't stop because if it stops, then it'll fucking sink, and then it'll drown.

[1116] That's fucking up.

[1117] How do they, do they even sleep?

[1118] they don't even sleep right they think they like dolphins they're like partially sleep they like shut most of their brain off for a couple hours a day you see this video the octopus i opening the jar to get the food inside and then shutting the jar oh yeah i have seen this yeah i've been seen the octopus jack the shark no what yeah there was another one in aquarium they were finding a lot of sharks were missing they're trying to figure out what the fuck was going on and uh they put a video camera up and they saw you watch that that one definitely exists if you look for octopus eats shark and this fucking octopus just jump on this shark and jack them it's just jujitsu once they get a hold of his body he's helpless and just eat him you know it's really simple like everybody thinks oh who would win shark or an octopus oh dude for sure a shark the fuck it would octopus move fast shark is stupid they try to buy you you just wrap that bitch up watch this shit it's kind of crazy it's hard to see on this the TV behind you yeah there you go the TV behind you and I can look at this one back here but this octopus just fuck the shit shark up, man. This shark was like yeah, man, I'm a shark.

[1119] I'm just going to fuck somebody up today.

[1120] The shark never thought that anybody's going to eat him.

[1121] Sharks don't even really have any natural predators.

[1122] You know, I mean, who the fuck's running around eating sharks?

[1123] Occasionally an orca will kill a shark.

[1124] But they only do it because the sharks are too close to their babies.

[1125] They're not like trying to eat them.

[1126] It's pretty rare.

[1127] Look at this stupid fucking shark.

[1128] Yeah, man. I'm just running shit down here.

[1129] That's the live one right there.

[1130] That's crazy.

[1131] He's waiting.

[1132] How long can the octopus live outside of water, though?

[1133] When I saw that video, I was like, doesn't he need water?

[1134] I don't know, but lobsters can live outside a long fucking time.

[1135] You ever got a lobster in the mail?

[1136] No. Yeah, you can do that?

[1137] In the mail.

[1138] Yeah.

[1139] That's crazy.

[1140] Yeah, and they're on ice.

[1141] Look at it.

[1142] Here he goes.

[1143] Bitch, come here.

[1144] The shark swims over the octopus, and the octopus just wraps this bitch up with some strong jujitsu.

[1145] That's total jujitsu, bro.

[1146] Look at his hooks.

[1147] Yeah, he's got his back.

[1148] He's like, oh, no, no, no, no, my friend.

[1149] Right now, this is Delahiva Guard because he's trying to get away.

[1150] Looks like he's got rid more, also.

[1151] He's trying to bite him, too.

[1152] The shark might bite him a little, but, you know, here's the crazy thing about Octuus.

[1153] You can bite their limbs off.

[1154] It doesn't matter, bitch.

[1155] Grow another one.

[1156] They grow another one.

[1157] They're super, they're super adaptable.

[1158] So this shark is biting them, but so what?

[1159] And he's just getting jacked.

[1160] He's getting totally anaconded here.

[1161] Spun around.

[1162] Yeah, they're suction.

[1163] are badass man it's a badass design you know everything just pulls it into one center where there's a giant fucking beak and that beak just jacks your ass wow that's cool that's nature meanwhile the crazy thing is their eyes and our eyes are very similar they're very similar biologically which is amazing it means somewhere along the line some hundreds of millions of years ago we were probably cousins of an octopus and we branched off into different ways in the ocean floor, you know, we went one way, they went another way, they went this way of just blending in their environment and jack and sharks, and here we are Jack in the world.

[1164] That's awesome.

[1165] So, back to religion.

[1166] Let's go back to religion.

[1167] Did I ask you, what was the oldest religion?

[1168] Yeah, I mean, I guess some form of animism is basically So you were telling me about the cave guys?

[1169] Yeah, for lack of a better term, scholars call it animism or shamanism or whoever you want to call it.

[1170] It's basically tribal religion.

[1171] and they have, you know, enormous variation from one tribe to another, but they have some common themes.

[1172] They tend to see like the nature as alive, you know, in nature is alive with spirits, spirits in everything, from trees to animals to all sort of stuff.

[1173] The idea, kind of like Star Wars, that there's a power in everything.

[1174] A force to it all.

[1175] Much like the force, exactly, that you can tap into.

[1176] And it has no morality.

[1177] It's not about you have to be a good person.

[1178] Right.

[1179] So there's some cool stuff out there.

[1180] That's, but yeah, it varies tremendously from one tribe to, the next and he wasn't written down you know it wasn't an organizer they joined in that sense and i mean some of that still exists to this day you know in some tribal culture that's still what's going on what's the official uh belief as far as like you know what's taught in schools when it comes to cattle worship why are there so many cattle worshiping tribes because it's delicious yeah exactly that's definitely true that's but they worship them as gods and they don't even eat them in some parts of the world right india and stuff how much does that have to do with psychedelic drugs well that's why the theory is about Hinduism is about how a lot of it began with Soma and Soma was considered to be some people say it was Amanita Moscaria you know the mushroom and they say they say that they also say Strafariocubensis and they say and it might have been a combination sort of a cocktail that they put together right now it's amazing that if you know about the their religion and the place that Soma played in it that it was lost like we don't know what it is yep no idea they would talk about Soma being greater than all these different things and Soma being amazing.

[1181] But yeah, we don't know what Soma is.

[1182] Somehow I know that they lost what Soma is.

[1183] There's that guy, Gordon Wassen.

[1184] Actually, I think I put him in the book in there too because it was too much of a fun story.

[1185] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1186] I had that chapter entitled, Peace, Drink.

[1187] How is that one go?

[1188] Let me see.

[1189] And Wassen is the one who initially made psychedelic mushrooms popular with Western America.

[1190] Oh, yeah.

[1191] I have a chapter entitled Peace Drinking, Draghi Priests created Hinduism.

[1192] Because it's one of the theory that Western has about that is that he believes that he believes he was Amanita Moskari at the Soma.

[1193] And the way he figured it out, he went through a bunch of these books referring to Soma.

[1194] And he was saying, you know, they keep talking about a plant, but they don't talk about leaves.

[1195] They don't talk about, you know, they refer to stem.

[1196] They refer to some weird crap, right?

[1197] And then so he was thinking he was starting to go in the mushroom direction.

[1198] And then he finds out this piece of literature from somewhere else where some shaman in Siberia, I think, was talking about how they filter Amanita Muscaria and he had read about this triple filter that they use in for Soma where they do a couple of things to brew it and then there's a human filter and he was like what the hell is a human filter?

[1199] He found out that if you take Amanita Moscaria you get the high but you also get really nauseous and weirded out and you have to drink your piss.

[1200] If you drink somebody else's piece you get the high but they get stuck with the cracky part they get all the side effects you don't.

[1201] I know that people drink their own pips when they're tripping when they're taking eminidio or where they're taking strafary cubensis.

[1202] They'll drink their own urine and they blast off apparently.

[1203] I talked to this dude.

[1204] He was like, I was like, I don't want to drink my piss.

[1205] This is crazy.

[1206] And he was like, dude, trust me, drink your piss.

[1207] He's like, he's like, I'm tripping balls.

[1208] And they're telling me I need to drink my piss to get higher than this.

[1209] He goes, I don't want to get hired in this.

[1210] Like, trust me. And he goes, okay.

[1211] And he goes, I drink my piss.

[1212] And he goes, and all of a sudden it was like a tornado opened up in front of my eyes.

[1213] and I got sucked through the center of it.

[1214] And he said it was the craziest trip and the most enlightening trip of his life.

[1215] But yeah, it's funny.

[1216] That's at least is your own.

[1217] In this case, it's even grosser because it's somebody else just because you don't want to get the side effects.

[1218] I may or may not have watched people drink animal piss.

[1219] I may or may not have.

[1220] I can't discuss this.

[1221] How much money did you pay for that?

[1222] I can't discuss this until...

[1223] No, it was in person.

[1224] I didn't pay anything.

[1225] I actually got paid.

[1226] But it might not be real.

[1227] And I can't discuss this.

[1228] until ironically and totally unrelated after Fear Factor starts the airing, which air is in December 12th.

[1229] Cool.

[1230] The human filter was a popular thing.

[1231] People would just sell their own, would they sell it?

[1232] Would they just make a deal?

[1233] I'll tell you what, bro.

[1234] It's like one line in some 4 ,000 -year -old book or something, so nobody really knows.

[1235] And it could be the Weston is speculating going off the deep end with that.

[1236] Could be.

[1237] But it's an interesting, it's a fun theory, if nothing else.

[1238] aminida muscaria is a very strange mushroom because they believe it's not only variable genetically but it's variable by location seasonally and that some of them might not even be psychoactive some of them might not even work right you know i've i've tried aminita and to when nothing happened right you know i tried it i didn't i went on a a combinator experience we tried to aminita we tried it for a few hours and nothing took so then we took some regular mushrooms and then we blasted off so it was a combination of the two of them was like ultra potent.

[1239] The amnita did something weird, but it wasn't really like getting you off.

[1240] It was just like getting you to this weird headspace.

[1241] I was like, what is going on here?

[1242] Like, is this, this what this stuff is?

[1243] Like, I just think it wasn't strong enough.

[1244] It wasn't good enough.

[1245] And I think, you know, there's parts of the world where it's like, you know, where they really know how to do it and really, in Siberia especially.

[1246] Right.

[1247] And especially in this thing about Siberia is how the amnita muscaria mushroom is essentially Christmas.

[1248] It's essentially Santa, Claus.

[1249] Well, people don't know.

[1250] The Christmas theme and the mushroom theme are so closely related.

[1251] They're even the same color.

[1252] Amnita mushroom is Santa Claus.

[1253] It's white and red.

[1254] And it has a micro -rizo relationship with certain carniferous trees so that it grows only under those trees just like packages under your fucking Christmas tree.

[1255] It's really amazing.

[1256] I mean, and people would gather them and the way to drive them out was they would put them on the fucking trees on the branches of the trees so the sun would get them it would dry them out like it's like that's the ornaments on the trees it's like all of it is there it's like there's so many connections and it's been argued that uh you know someone told me that coca cola was the first one to actually make a red and white Santa Claus than he was a different color before then but that's not really true um there's there there's evidence of red and white Santa's from a long time ago right you know and but that the Santa doesn't even matter what really matters is the fucking presence under the tree the way you know the relationship that it has with the tree, the reason why we have Christmas trees and they're always fucking pine trees, man. I mean, the whole thing, it's like, wow, the relationship's so close.

[1257] The color of it and the fact that we hang stockings over the fireplace and those stockings, when the fuck did you ever get a pair of red and white stockings that you wore?

[1258] You don't, but...

[1259] But that's also how they dry mushrooms out in their home.

[1260] They hang them in front of the fireplace, and that's what dries them out.

[1261] That's a very incredible.

[1262] You didn't know that?

[1263] I didn't know that.

[1264] Oh, dude.

[1265] It's an incredible.

[1266] incredible series of whether they're coincidences or I mean I wouldn't say coincidence I would say you know there's evidence that there's a relationship and there's a bunch of people that have studied this there's a guy Andrew Rudigy and Jan Irvin they've done a lot of study on this stuff and the great Jack Herrer was actually writing a book about this before he died the relationship with Christianity and mushrooms as well he had all these really cool ancient paintings of people who are naked, dancing, and ecstasy under the very clear, transparent silhouette of the shape of a mushroom.

[1267] You know, this is really amazing stuff.

[1268] It's like the idea.

[1269] And if you ever look at the really old pictures of halos, that's just fascinating, too.

[1270] Old halos, like the new halos are like a frisbee, or like a hula hoop, rather, floating around the back of your head.

[1271] But the old halos were literally on the underside of a mushroom cap.

[1272] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1273] Yeah, and it has the lines in it, just like a mushroom does.

[1274] And it's really a trip when you see that.

[1275] You go, oh, my God, like, this is, what they were saying was these people were under the spell of the mushroom.

[1276] They were enlightened because they were under the spell of the mushroom.

[1277] Right.

[1278] And there's mushroom symbology, like all throughout ancient buildings and, like, doorways are mushroom -shaped.

[1279] Like, literally, these temples had mushroom -shaped doorway.

[1280] Fuck, man. How many people were on mushrooms back then?

[1281] You know, no internet, no TV, there's, you know, you got to keep entertained somehow.

[1282] Yeah, that's the move, right?

[1283] God damn, man. So when you're teaching these classes, do you ever get anybody who's angry at you?

[1284] Do you ever get anybody who wants to talk to you after class and just like, you know, hey, what you're doing is wrong?

[1285] No, for the most part they are, Melo.

[1286] I mean, and again, I try to do it in a way that I try not to be offensive to the individual.

[1287] I may say something hard.

[1288] I always say something harsh about the big picture, but on the individual.

[1289] level.

[1290] It's like, hey, man, it doesn't mean I hate you.

[1291] You know, it's like, we're playing here.

[1292] We're tossing ideas.

[1293] I'm not attached to my ideas.

[1294] You tell me something that makes sense.

[1295] I'll change my mind right now.

[1296] You know, it's like, I'm not here to defend an ideologies, so we don't care.

[1297] We're just playing here, you know.

[1298] So people mallow out.

[1299] And once in a while, we have discussions.

[1300] I had a Muslim student who was a very nice guy, but obviously wasn't too keen.

[1301] He loved me when I took shit about other religions, but of course he had some issues when I started picking on the Quran.

[1302] And he had this one thing, I picked on was this passage in the Koran that basically justify beating up your wife if she's disobedient and he's a nice guy so he doesn't really want to support that but at the same time he doesn't want to go against the Koran so he was like struggling trying to figure out what do I do with it he came up with this weird ass theory a week later telling me you know what this is God telling you that you shouldn't beat up women and I'm like yeah that's sweet except that it's saying that you should so what's going on here and he's like no no he's using Sabto's psychology, you know, because if he tells you not to, then you get peace, then you want to do it.

[1303] So first it tells you, wait, he said, first it tells you that you should talk to them.

[1304] And then if they don't reform, then you banish them to another room.

[1305] And only as a last resort, then you can bid them up.

[1306] So really is telling you that you shouldn't bid them up, but it's doing it in a smart way.

[1307] And I was like, oh, my fucking God, can you just take that maybe there's some good stuff in the Quran and you cut some crap and can we just?

[1308] They're the most dogmatic.

[1309] The Muslims, like radical Muslims, are the most dogmatic about it.

[1310] What do you find to be the most ridiculous?

[1311] Are religions universally ridiculous?

[1312] No, I think all the people, all the ones who believe that there's only one right way that has been revealed by God to them, and so they are super hardcore dogmatic.

[1313] And mostly, I mean, you're talking about Muslim fundamentalists, today in particular, Muslim fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists throughout much of history.

[1314] They mellowed out a little today.

[1315] They let you paint them.

[1316] Yeah, you can still draw Jesus.

[1317] You draw Muhammad to fucking shoot you and blow your house up.

[1318] But I think it's all in Western, Western monotheistic religions have the tendency to have the unhealthiest, more rabid, I'll kill you if you disagree, kind of mentality.

[1319] Most Asian things, I mean, you can agree, you can disagree, but they are kind of like, eh, you know, if you disagree, who the hell cares?

[1320] Right.

[1321] Do your thing.

[1322] Yeah, Asian martial arts, or Asian rather religions.

[1323] What about, um, you know, what are they about the.

[1324] idea that the most dogmatic and the most restrictive religions are really the religions that have come from the areas that have like the oldest civilizations.

[1325] And so almost like, you know, like Sumer, which is where Iraq is.

[1326] You know, really famously is a part of the world that is still in the dark ages in a lot of ways.

[1327] You know, the battles been seen, the Sunnis and the Shiyes and the just the Kurds.

[1328] and all the shit that happened with Saddam Hussein.

[1329] And you go back to that area.

[1330] I mean, you say, well, you know, this area literally was Sumer.

[1331] This is there is Babylon.

[1332] This is where, you know, literally the first religions were created as far as we know.

[1333] You know, and when you think about that, like the people that are still there, they're much more influenced by the deep, deep past, you know, than people that have spread out to all parts of the world as travelers, especially Americans.

[1334] Right.

[1335] That's the first, the last example of a new continent that we know that, you know, just over the last few hundred years has been established.

[1336] Yeah, I'm kind of scared of anything that comes out of the desert.

[1337] The desert is a fuck of that place.

[1338] I mean, it's just some people do well in it, but for the most part.

[1339] It's harsh environment, man. It's harsh, man. All you want to do is you just squeeze between two rocks and pray that your brain doesn't start oozing out of your head, you know.

[1340] It's brutal.

[1341] And so it's like, religions that come out of the desert, I can see how they have something to do with.

[1342] People that come out of the desert.

[1343] You ever drive from, like, California to Vegas?

[1344] Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's scary business.

[1345] Drive from California to Vegas and you get out and you just smell crime, dude.

[1346] You just smell fear and anger.

[1347] Fear and loathing.

[1348] Right, exactly.

[1349] Hunter S. Thompson fucking nailed it.

[1350] I mean, it's not a mistake that he drove in a convertible taking it all in while on ether.

[1351] I strongly recommend that, yes.

[1352] Yeah, that's probably the way to see it correctly.

[1353] Yeah, no, so that's with religions.

[1354] I mean, a religion.

[1355] from beautiful mountains and rivers and shit i'm sure he's going to do something to its ideology where they are maybe not always but more likely than not they're going to have a more mellow view of life well there's only one really mellow religion right that's buddhism buddhism is pretty mellow in fact i have no problems with i mean some i can disagree with some stuff in buddhism but it's it's pleasant disagreement you know it's like and they are not as uh at least for the most part as our core trying to shove it down your throat so it's a little more relaxed to have a dialogue.

[1356] Yeah, I really appreciate that.

[1357] I really appreciate religions that don't proselytize.

[1358] I really appreciate Judaism.

[1359] Like, nobody's trying to get you to be a Jew.

[1360] Right, right, right, right.

[1361] You know, and you really can't even join.

[1362] You know, it's really hard to join.

[1363] Right.

[1364] You got to marry some chick.

[1365] You know?

[1366] That's what my uncle did.

[1367] My uncle converted.

[1368] His name is Salvatore DiGilando.

[1369] A very Italian.

[1370] Yeah, he converted, he became Jewish.

[1371] Yeah.

[1372] It's interesting to me that, you know, there's no, there's no, I wouldn't say there's no new religions, but there's no new respected religions.

[1373] There's everything where you can look back and, like, you know, some people take Scientology seriously, but for the most part, it seems to be just a group, you know, I mean, you can call it a religion, but no one in that really is believe, at least I don't think they are, believing the stories of Scientology the same way that people are believing the ridiculous, I mean, especially when it's written by a science fiction author.

[1374] But because we know more shit today, you know, it's like, you can make some great claims about some distant past where nobody knows shit.

[1375] Then it's, you can spin a story that nobody can disprove today.

[1376] You know, in three seconds, people find out all about you when you're like, hey, isn't your profit the guy who was like renting some child porn the other day?

[1377] And it's like, what are you talking?

[1378] So it's a little harder to get away with stuff.

[1379] Do you remember the Ted Haggard documentary they did for HBO?

[1380] And one of the things he goes to look for a job.

[1381] and after he gets out he goes I think I'll be okay unless they Google me that's what he said I think I'll be okay I'll get the job unless they Google me that's great it's hilarious man that's hilarious he's back to teaching again he's got a church now don't you love it those guys who are so hardcore about morality and this and that not that they mellow out a little bit which would be healthy no they go all like I'll do methamphetamine with a gay hooker that's like you're the one who's the one who's arguing that masturbation is the ultimate scene and it's like Jesus.

[1382] Ted Haggerty blocked me on Twitter.

[1383] He did.

[1384] I made a joke.

[1385] He was talking about church.

[1386] He's like after church maybe sandwiches and a picnic and then dot dot dot and I wrote meth and blowjob yeah I mean but he's he might and he'll come on yeah what the fuck man you can't just leave that out there and say he blocked me on Twitter the fuck I blocked people too but only when they're assholes.

[1387] Right.

[1388] You say something that funny, but some people, they've got no sense of humor.

[1389] Priests that get busted with gay hookers and meth.

[1390] Rarely can they laugh at it.

[1391] No, unfortunately.

[1392] So, the most unreasonable religion would have to be Islam, right?

[1393] They're the most...

[1394] I mean, you can't make fun of them.

[1395] You can't...

[1396] Today's pretty tough to do.

[1397] You know that woman that had to go into hiding and they had changed her name?

[1398] she was a calmness and she wanted to have a draw Muhammad Monday and she had so many threats against her life yeah they really they will kill you isn't that amazing it's amazing that that's tolerated like that's some bullshit but you need to fucking relax yeah one thing that trips me out is the reaction like when they were the Mohammed cartoons where they were even Salman Rashdi back in the day a bunch of the Western world were saying yeah sure the violence is bad, the Muslim reaction, but really is this terrible and offensive what these people are doing.

[1399] And I'm just like, are you kidding me?

[1400] You know, you're giving in to book burners and arguing that people want to squash freedom of opinion that's in the name of respecting religion.

[1401] Yeah, if you want to go to war, if the United States wants to go to war, it should go to war with anybody that wants to kill a lady who suggests that you should have a draw Muhammad Monday.

[1402] That's who we should go to war with.

[1403] Go to war with them.

[1404] Have people to pretend to do shit like that.

[1405] Find out who's a ready to kill them and then go get them go get them boys those are the jackasses of the world those are the people who you can't bounce that far back from where they are they need to die and come back and live life again and try to learn from this life's experiences because you're not going to bounce back from being a guy who's willing to cut the heart out of a woman who wants to have a draw Muhammad Monday that guy's never going to be a productive member of society he's not like oh I you know I don't tip well at the restaurant or so that's a pretty big floor right there.

[1406] Yeah, there's like a number, like a place where you go where you can't bounce back, where you're so much of a piece of shit and so much of a problem in society that you can't...

[1407] I say child molesters, I say anything along those murderers, like, you can't bounce back from that.

[1408] You can't.

[1409] You've got to stop.

[1410] We've got a clean house.

[1411] And it's just like you have to prune trees and, you know, like, you have to shoot horses with broken legs.

[1412] All right?

[1413] Right, Brian?

[1414] Yes.

[1415] The fuck are we talking about that.

[1416] It's supposed to be about religion.

[1417] So did you, you didn't learn anything doing this book.

[1418] You will learn something about the reactions of people.

[1419] You braced yourself for controversy.

[1420] And even this conversation, you know, I'm sure there's going to be people.

[1421] You're lucky you don't have a Twitter.

[1422] Do you have a Facebook?

[1423] Yeah, I don't.

[1424] What is it?

[1425] Is it Danielle Bellelli?

[1426] Yep.

[1427] I have a nice picture of me holding my daughter flipping people off.

[1428] Really?

[1429] Yeah.

[1430] Wow.

[1431] So you were prepared for this response from the show.

[1432] Did you do that in response or you had it like that way?

[1433] it was my attitude over the last few months where I was like I've been through enough shit that's kind of my feeling toward the universe you know one end I'm protective of the only good thing there is and then the other end I'm like fuck you all you know is your go -to karaoke song by r em by chance no it's Pavarotti that's right you got that accent you might as well just bust out some opera go for it right is that you singing over there yeah okay you're all right don't hurt yourself over there So your book, when is it going to be out?

[1434] It should be this week.

[1435] They keep giving me different dates.

[1436] I mean, Amazon has it for like December 20, but Amazon always gets it wrong.

[1437] So I talked to the publisher and they told me that should be out this week.

[1438] And it's Daniel Bollelli.

[1439] Yep.

[1440] How do you say it in Italian?

[1441] Daniela.

[1442] Daniela B -O -L -L -L -L -I.

[1443] B -O -E -L -L -I.

[1444] And you can find them on Facebook if you want.

[1445] Look for the guy holding his daughter, giving you the finger.

[1446] And this has been fun, man. really interesting conversation.

[1447] Thanks, man. And I hope people buy your book, and we've got to come back again.

[1448] We'll talk about some more shit.

[1449] I'm sure that's a beautiful thing about religion.

[1450] There's hundreds and hundreds of hours of discussion just on the silliness, right?

[1451] Or MMA or drugs or anything.

[1452] Beautiful.

[1453] It's been a lot of fun, man. Thank you very much.

[1454] Thank you on here.

[1455] All right.

[1456] That's it, folks.

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[1462] I can't, I should use some.

[1463] I should talk too much.

[1464] That's that caffeine withdrawal.

[1465] It is, probably.

[1466] I'm probably half -retarded now.

[1467] The new stuff is new mood.

[1468] It's a 5 -H -T -P and L -Tryptophan supplement.

[1469] And we also have ShroomTAC, a cortisps mushroom and B -12 energy supplement.

[1470] That's fantastic.

[1471] for people who work out really hard.

[1472] I fucking love it.

[1473] I'm really getting into that stuff lately.

[1474] This Wednesday, as in tomorrow, we are having a show here at the Ice House in Pasadena.

[1475] What time is the show, Brian?

[1476] I don't know.

[1477] I haven't figured it out yet.

[1478] We haven't figured it out yet.

[1479] That's how we roll, bitches.

[1480] It's wild.

[1481] We're crazy, but it'll be a lot of cool guys.

[1482] Burke Kreischer's going to be on the show.

[1483] Burke Kreischer is also going to be on the Ice House Chronicles podcast that we do.

[1484] Whenever we have a show here at the Ice House, during the time the guys are on stage and before everyone's on stage, we'll do a podcast right here at this Death Squad studio.

[1485] And so Christ will be on that.

[1486] And who knows how many other...

[1487] Hopefully, Joey Diaz.

[1488] Is Joey in town?

[1489] I don't know.

[1490] Matt Flava, bitches.

[1491] We'll have to bring Joey in.

[1492] We've been having some kick -ass shows.

[1493] They're amazing.

[1494] Last one was, Stevo, Bill Burr, who else?

[1495] Ari Sheffier, Joey Diaz, Brendan Walsh, me. I mean, we're...

[1496] These are like the craziest shows you can get.

[1497] And it's cheap.

[1498] What is it, 15 bucks?

[1499] Yep.

[1500] Yeah, 15 bucks.

[1501] It's a real cool place because it's intimate.

[1502] It's only 85 seats.

[1503] And we also have a show Friday every week usually for Death Squad where I take all the other people like, you know, like Sam Tripley, Jason Tebow, Tom Seguer and all those guys and I give them like their own separate show too.

[1504] Yeah, solid shows if you're around and you want to check those out.

[1505] I mean, even if you don't know the guy's names, guarantee you if they're on these shows, they're solid.

[1506] And so this weekend's the UFC.

[1507] Oh, who else we got?

[1508] We got Doug Stanhope, bitches.

[1509] Doug Stanhope will be joining us on Thursday.

[1510] Thursday, Doug Stanhope is going to join us.

[1511] He's got a show Wednesday and Thursday.

[1512] Wednesday is at the Irvine Improv, and Thursday is at the Brea Improv.

[1513] So we're going to bring him down here on Thursday, do a podcast with Doug, get piss -eyed drunk, and then take him out to the improv in Brea that night.

[1514] So if you're looking to see him, go to the Irvine Improves website.

[1515] Just Google that shit, son.

[1516] go see Doug Stanhope on Wednesday at Irvine and then Thursday in Brea.

[1517] Doug will be here on Thursday for a podcast.

[1518] That's it.

[1519] It's fucking show's over.

[1520] Thank you.

[1521] Daniela.

[1522] Daniela.

[1523] Daniela Balealee.

[1524] My friend, you've brought us some very interesting topics for conversation here, and I'm going to check out your book.

[1525] And check out his new book.

[1526] 50 things you're not supposed to know about religion, which should be out this week on info .com.

[1527] Disinfo.

[1528] Disinfo, not info.

[1529] dot com.

[1530] Info, they're a bunch of fucking liars.

[1531] Disinfo .com are telling you truth.

[1532] Subscribe to Desquad.

[1533] It's the only way on iTunes subscribe to it because it's the only way you can get the Ice House Chronicles, which I think is one of the best podcasts out there.

[1534] It's all of us hanging out pre -shows and after shows, and it's, you get some hilarious shit out of it.

[1535] It's a lot of fun.

[1536] Everybody's getting amped up for the show, and there's a lot of shit talking, and it's always fun when you got like ten comics in a room together.

[1537] The last one was beautiful.

[1538] It was Joey Diaz and Brendan Walsh, and it was everybody.

[1539] and the one before with Yoshi.

[1540] I mean, they're really fun.

[1541] All right.

[1542] The fucking show's over.

[1543] Love you, bitches.

[1544] See you.

[1545] Bye.