#1065 - Danica Patrick

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[1] Hello, Danica Patrick.

[2] Hi.

[3] Welcome to the show.

[4] Thank you.

[5] Thanks for doing this.

[6] I appreciate it.

[7] I'm excited to be here.

[8] You're an intense lady.

[9] You got a lot of intensity.

[10] When I met you, like right away, I'm like, whoa.

[11] Got to take this one in.

[12] Well, you know, it's the handshake and then it's the, you know, when someone actually looks you in the eye.

[13] Well, you have to be intense.

[14] I mean, what you do for a living is probably one of the craziest things a human being can do.

[15] Do you think so?

[16] It's up there for a job.

[17] How fast do you go?

[18] Uh, $200 plus.

[19] I mean, like, you know, NASCAR's top speed is probably $2 .15.

[20] Indy cars, maybe more like $2 .40.

[21] Yeah.

[22] And I'm going to do the Daytona 500 next month and then the Indy 500 in May. So those are going to be my last two races.

[23] The last ones ever?

[24] Yeah.

[25] Yeah.

[26] This is my Danica double goodbye tour.

[27] Why are you doing that?

[28] How come you doing a Danica double goodbye?

[29] Is it enough as enough?

[30] I'm ready.

[31] I mean, I love racing, but I love other things, too.

[32] So, you know, I'm okay with transitioning out.

[33] And there was a lot of things that were kind of just pointing me in this direction in 2017, stuff that has never happened to me before to kind of, yeah, head towards the exit a little bit.

[34] But I'm good with it.

[35] I'm a very decisive person.

[36] So this is probably one of them that I thought about a little bit as far as, like, how to be done or if to be done, I guess.

[37] but the how was the hardest part.

[38] My agent kept calling and saying, what about this?

[39] And what if you did that?

[40] And I'm like, no, no, no. You all need to get ready for me to be done, please.

[41] Wow.

[42] And so then he came up with the, he's like, what if you finish up at Daytona for the 500?

[43] And I was like, what about the Indy 500?

[44] And he goes, and I was really only referring to the Indy 500.

[45] And he was like, well, I'd love you to do both.

[46] And I was like, oh, well, that's a good idea.

[47] Yeah.

[48] So there's this thing in racing called the double, which is doing the Indy 500 on Memorial Day weekend on Sunday and then flying straight to Charlotte to do the Coke 600 afterwards.

[49] And that's kind of known as the double.

[50] But this is what we're calling the Danica double.

[51] And it has to do with just having spent a chunk of my career in Indy car and a chunk of my career in NASCAR.

[52] And it just kind of feels like the right way to go out.

[53] I don't know.

[54] It didn't.

[55] It wasn't clear.

[56] It was a bit of a murky end as far as like what's going to happen.

[57] Am I going to race next year full time or not?

[58] And it just kind of.

[59] kind of went too long for me to have like a proper I'm done sort of moment in my head.

[60] So this was just a great way to do it.

[61] So when you say that things happen in 2017 that didn't happen before, like what do you mean?

[62] Like I had a sponsor leave me. My primary sponsor left at the beginning of the year.

[63] I mean, I signed a contract when Mercury was in retrograde.

[64] So, you know, I screwed myself there.

[65] You believe that stuff?

[66] I don't know.

[67] I don't know.

[68] It was true.

[69] So I guess.

[70] Maybe the universe is a little bit more straightforward than we think it is.

[71] I think a lot of good things probably happened during that time.

[72] In 2017 or during retrograde?

[73] Mercury and retrograde.

[74] I don't believe in any of that shit.

[75] Oh, yeah.

[76] I think people look for some sort of like hidden meaning to things when it comes to like astrology.

[77] Yeah.

[78] Yeah.

[79] I do try and understand it.

[80] It's quite, I'm trying to understand how it really matters.

[81] But I don't know.

[82] There's definitely some things at least with the moon.

[83] that goes on.

[84] I mean, the water changes with the moon.

[85] So doesn't that mean that other things should too, whether it be energetically or something like that?

[86] I think the water and the moon thing kind of makes sense a little bit, a little bit.

[87] But I think it's probably just like barely one way or the other.

[88] Yeah, maybe it's a whisper on the wind kind of stuff.

[89] Yeah, I think it's more in your head.

[90] So stop putting my crystals outside to charge under the full moon.

[91] Maybe not so important.

[92] I would say it's not that important.

[93] There's something someone sent me about the army using crystals And I was like, this has got to be like an onion article, that the Army was using crystals for, like, medics.

[94] See, think if you could see, find that.

[95] Wait a second.

[96] Yeah.

[97] For crystals.

[98] For wounded people.

[99] Yeah, look at this stupid shit.

[100] I don't even, I don't know, I'm sure if it's real.

[101] U .S. Army's new holistic medics treating gunshot wounds with crystals and essential oils is satire.

[102] Thank you.

[103] Thank you.

[104] I knew it.

[105] Well, essential oils, don't you think there's a plant that cures everything out there?

[106] There probably is something like that down in the Amazon that maybe not cures everything, but there's probably a lot of stuff that we don't know about.

[107] That's where essential oils come from, right?

[108] So pair that up with some high vibrational stones.

[109] High vibrational stones.

[110] Ooh.

[111] I don't know.

[112] Tense.

[113] So back to my sponsor leaving me. So your sponsor leaving you, you were like, that's it?

[114] It's just never happened to me before.

[115] I've always been someone that's been really well funded and always had a sponsor, always had a sponsor.

[116] sponsor and never a problem and so um yeah it was just things like that were happening i got in a few big wrecks in a row like probably three and six weeks that were you know like i was bawling in the medical center after the third one going i mean i was running like top 10 and a car blew a rotor and clipped me and put me in the wall i was on fire another driver broke his back i mean it was a huge accident and i'm like what is what is the message what is someone trying to tell me right now and And so, you know, after I collected my shit and got my face looking, like, halfway decent to go talk to the media out there, I finally got out.

[117] But, yeah, just stuff like that was happening.

[118] And I was, I was in a very go -with -the -flow mood in 2017.

[119] I wasn't pushing for anything because I wasn't really sure what I wanted.

[120] So I just let the universe take care of it.

[121] You've got a very interesting way of looking at things.

[122] When things go wrong, you're like, what is the universe trying to tell me?

[123] You're not like, well, I drive really fucking fast for a living.

[124] and sometimes shit goes wrong That happens too I mean it seems like car racing is just inherently crazy I mean it's what I was saying when I was saying you do one of the craziest things you can for a living going 240 miles an hour is no joke and metal and rubber and things just they have tolerances You gotta trust in something when you're out there because you're doing like you said 200 plus miles an hour with people that aren't your friends around you with walls around you as well so you kind of got put your trust in something else yeah that's why i was getting at that because i think the way you think is a lot it's very similar to the way fighter pilots think fighter pilots have a lot of weird superstitions and a lot of uh a lot of pilots do a lot of people that are involved in intense things it's almost like in order to get through the the task at hand you almost have to delegate certain aspects of reality to to fate or to chance or to right yeah I believe that.

[125] Yeah.

[126] I mean, they have a tattoo on my back.

[127] It's an American flag.

[128] I got that when I was 19.

[129] It's like an American flag that fades to a checkered flag.

[130] And then there's, and then I got that when I was 19.

[131] Then when I was about 27, I went and got the rest, which was angel wings and some stars.

[132] And, you know, it's not the most beautiful piece of art, but it means something to me. it won't be really beautiful in 30 years i'm sure 40 um but it's uh but yeah i my point is is that i would definitely pray that you know i was taking care of and you got to hand that off and just go do your damn job and not be afraid and just trust in the fate of everything and yeah so that's kind of where the angel wings come in well i think that people that do inherently risky things oftentimes look for signs or look for some sort of you know some direction some some some message from the universe and that's why I was well I mean I feel like as a race car driver I've thought about this a lot lately and I wonder how much of our job is a little less even just feeling what's happening and how much is actually maybe more intuitive like maybe we're maybe we're having more intuitive understanding what's going on and what's coming then we realize we just are so um everything's happening so fast and that you you just think oh I'm I have good feel you know i mean i'm sure there's some of that too but um so i think that maybe maybe you're maybe maybe maybe athletes or people at an elite level are more in touch with that intuitive side that um finite like last thread of feel maybe it's beyond feel it's a knowing that makes sense i mean if you think about the amount of time that you've spent involved in that intense activity in this you know they say that people get road rage for one of the reasons why people get road rage is because when you're driving you are reacting to things that could happen instantaneously very quickly so your body is at a very heightened state and people you know someone cuts you off you start freaking out like instantly they go from one to 10 right away and the reason is because they're always at seven and they don't even realize they're at seven when you're in the car when you're probably at like 13 this one goes to it 11.

[133] Yeah.

[134] I mean, you're cranked up, right?

[135] And so you're probably seeing things and feeling things that the average person, they don't experience in their life.

[136] 100%.

[137] Yeah.

[138] You're just working at that top little, top level of feeling of focus.

[139] Is that addictive?

[140] Is that where you call it in the zone?

[141] Yeah.

[142] Where it kind of almost becomes slightly out of body.

[143] You don't even know how it's happening.

[144] It's just happening.

[145] Well, I would imagine like you kind of melt away and you're just completely involved in the task.

[146] When I think about what I have to do, like let's say as an example coming in for a pit stop and you've got your throttle, brake, clutch, gears, all the different things that you have to do.

[147] To think about it logically, what you have to do is so much more confusing than just going on instinct of like, just do it.

[148] Because you have to, you know, you only have two feet, but you have three pedals and you have to use all three pedals at some point in time, but you want to be.

[149] ready for everything and you're coming in like with the clutch in on the break but then you have to get back to the get to the throttle just in time but you have to have the clutch in and you have to hold the brake so you make sure you don't roll there's all kinds of things you have to do using all three pedals which you have two feet and so when you kind of when you have to think about what you have to do it's a little more overwhelming than just doing it do you do you drive a manual in real life i would i love it easy yeah i do too but yeah but i mean a lot of people it seems like it's kind of a dying thing yeah it is i mean even indy cars went to paddle shift before I was done.

[150] It was H pattern, and then it was sequential gearbox, and then it was paddle shifting.

[151] But NASCAR still got the old H pattern.

[152] That left leg is important for the whole feel of the thing, right?

[153] Well, especially in an IndyCar.

[154] In an IndyCar, you actually have a full -on dead pedal.

[155] So you have all three pedals, and then you have a dead pedal, which is important because you spend a lot of time with your foot there, but it is part of the feel.

[156] It is absolutely part of the feel of the car, especially with all the G -loads.

[157] How did you get involved in race?

[158] I raced go -karts when I was a kid My sister and my sister wanted to race go -carts And I just didn't want to get left out So turned it out I was all right at And I kept going But it's a very unusual path Yeah well I mean I did everything though I was uh I played like coach pitch then t -ball I was in the band the choir I took voice lessons I was I played basketball volleyball cheerleading I played in every sport I took tumbling class and then I also tried racing.

[159] So you've always been intense.

[160] Yeah.

[161] Yeah, for sure.

[162] Did you know at a certain age that you wanted to be a race car driver?

[163] Well, when I was 10, I decided that I wanted to go to college for engineering so I could learn how to work on my race car.

[164] And I realized I did not have to do that.

[165] I did not have to do that.

[166] Yeah, that's what I thought.

[167] Wow.

[168] You want to learn to be an engineer so that you could work on your race car.

[169] Do you understand how crazy that is?

[170] When I was to be 10 years old, to be thinking that, well.

[171] I don't know.

[172] Do you think you're born that way or am I an old, like, what do you think about that?

[173] Like to be thinking that way when I'm 10 years old.

[174] Like you, you know, some people are just so much different or more mature further along.

[175] Is it, why do you think that is?

[176] It's a very good question.

[177] I don't, I think it's entirely possible that memory gets transferred through DNA and that there are certain people that have a long line of adventurous people in their family and that gets transferred to the DNA of the children.

[178] I think it's entirely possible.

[179] I have three children.

[180] Not a spiritual reincarnation.

[181] No, maybe.

[182] I mean, look, that's entirely possible, too.

[183] I would never say no to that.

[184] Because if you're living this life, I mean, nobody asked to live this life.

[185] You're just here, right?

[186] Who knows if you get to do it again?

[187] I mean, we're assuming that you don't get to do it again because we're assuming that time goes on in this sort of linear way.

[188] But maybe it just does for you in this life.

[189] I mean, it's entirely possible that there's infinite number of lives being lived out in infinite timelines all simultaneously.

[190] We're just experiencing this one.

[191] We don't even know what happens when we sleep.

[192] You go to sleep, you close your eyes, you have some crazy dream about Godzilla chasing you when you're on a skateboard.

[193] You wake up in the morning and you just assume that you're on the same timeline that you were on before.

[194] You know, because you have not on the astral.

[195] Who knows?

[196] I don't, you know, I have children.

[197] And one of the things that's really fascinating about watching a child.

[198] develop from a baby to, you know, a kid and see their personality.

[199] It's like, you realize, like, there's a lot of stuff that's just, that's what they come with.

[200] Yeah, they're just different.

[201] Yeah.

[202] So if they're just different, why, you know, why, why was I thinking about being an engineer when I was 10 years old?

[203] Why was I brave enough to go live in England by myself when I was 16 and all good with it?

[204] And, you know, why, why, why am I intent, why did, why was I intense when you met me?

[205] You're wired that way.

[206] I mean like, yeah.

[207] Well, I think part of your intensity is probably, if I had a guess, if I could be presumptuous, you're a woman involved in a very manly activity.

[208] And I'm sure men probably test you in some sort of a weird way.

[209] And so I bet along the way you've developed this sort of like way of addressing them right away, like a listen motherfucker.

[210] You know what I mean?

[211] Sometimes just like that.

[212] Yeah.

[213] I mean, I think you probably have to.

[214] You know, I would imagine.

[215] You have to be strong.

[216] You have to.

[217] I remember when I was younger and going to meetings with companies or team bosses, people like that, and was the advice given was don't say, oh, I think this and maybe, like, you'd be sure about what you want.

[218] And I remember that.

[219] So, yeah, nature versus nurture.

[220] Some of it's learned, but some of it's just there.

[221] Yeah, you can't turn a timid person to you.

[222] Maybe you could.

[223] But, I mean, it's not likely.

[224] You seem to be like this person This is just who you are And if you're telling me that at 10 years old You were thinking about being an engineer So you could work on race cars That's not normal I mean, what's normal though What'd you want to do when you were 10 years old?

[225] I had no idea I probably wanted to be an artist I think I wanted to be an artist I mean that's kind of what you got I mean that follows this vein Sort of yeah But I used to want to draw comic books I did a lot of that Yeah so that was probably when I wanted But I was never like What I need to do is like I need to figure out a way to make my hands stronger so that I draw faster.

[226] You know, like, you just seem to be like...

[227] Well, let's keep in mind, I did not go to college.

[228] In fact, I didn't even finish high school.

[229] You didn't at all?

[230] Nope.

[231] I left when I was 16 and I got my GED.

[232] Wow, why did you do that?

[233] And I failed the first time.

[234] Wow.

[235] You want to know why?

[236] Yeah.

[237] Okay, good.

[238] Because that's like a horrible, like, I failed my GED.

[239] Oh, geez.

[240] I, uh, the Constitution test is something, at least in Illinois.

[241] I don't know if you have to pass it in every state, but in Illinois you do.

[242] And so in eighth grade, to go to high school, you have to get a 70 % or above to go to high school.

[243] I got a 70.

[244] So I went to high school.

[245] Now, I'm like a 3 .5 and above student.

[246] Like, I was A's and B's.

[247] Not a problem.

[248] For some reason, the Constitution and government and all of those sectors and names and holy moly, it's so confusing to me. So then when it came time to take my GED, I didn't study at all.

[249] I just took the test.

[250] and I failed the Constitution test.

[251] Oh, so you just didn't prepare for it, that's all.

[252] Yeah, I mean, I've never studied in my life, so I just...

[253] For anything?

[254] No. Really?

[255] Yeah.

[256] The only thing I study up a well, study, if I'm doing a speech or if I'm doing something for a company, for a sponsor, and I need to make sure that I have my talking points ready, I mean, I spend 15 minutes or 30 minutes or five minutes making sure that I'm I'm organized in my head about what it is that I need to get out there so that I can do my job and deliver.

[257] But other than that, I never studied in school.

[258] Keep in mind, I didn't have to go to school that long.

[259] That's true.

[260] I mean, I only went to school until I was 16.

[261] So it's been a really, really, really long time since I went to school.

[262] But you're very smart.

[263] Oh, I don't know.

[264] See, I...

[265] You know, you're smart.

[266] Thank you.

[267] Well...

[268] But do you read?

[269] I actually, I want to start reading more.

[270] I've got a lot of books that I want to read.

[271] started reading a book called the holographic universe okay michael talbot right yeah yeah it's good book is it it's weird yeah there's a lot of stuff in that you're like wait a man is this kind of drugs like probably there's a lot of woo -woo in there i think i'm a little woo -woo so it's good i'm in simple books like the alchemist and stuff i just really want to read these books i mean and um yeah uh that's more woo -woo you're into you're in a woo -woo shit yeah i am why do you think that that is the race car thing Do you think that's like the...

[272] No?

[273] It has nothing to do with racing.

[274] No?

[275] That's just who you are?

[276] That's just who I am.

[277] I remember getting a psychic reading when I was 18 years old living in England.

[278] Mm -hmm.

[279] Yeah.

[280] I bought like Linda Goodman's love signs, like astrology book when I was a kid.

[281] So when you were 16 and you got a psychic reading?

[282] I mean, I totally had a mood ring.

[283] Oh, mood rings are great.

[284] Sorry, go ahead.

[285] What did they tell you?

[286] Do they tell you anything you didn't know?

[287] I can't remember.

[288] I can't remember.

[289] But when I was talking about signing my contract and.

[290] when Mercury was in retrograde that was I talked to an astrologer and she said just don't sign any contracts and I was like well what a bizarre I mean I was kind of learning about some of this stuff because it was quite a few years ago now but I I remember the next it was a year and a half later or so and you know shit hit the fan and I was like that damn astrologer was right now okay Mercury and Retrograd is pretty standard information if you're into astrology at all but but yeah she said I saw a psychic in Sedona a few years ago and she said that professionally over the next four years your life's going to go boom boom boom boom boom boom and I thought man I'm going to win a bunch of races this is going to be awesome and instead I have a clothing line now I have a book that just came out at the beginning of the year my wine's finally been for sale for a year now and there's other projects I'm working on too but and you know finishing off my career in a pretty big way so I guess she was right.

[291] I think that lady's full of shit.

[292] You think she took a guess.

[293] I think she looked at you and like, this chick's going to kick ass.

[294] I'll just make some predictions.

[295] So do you think she recognized me then?

[296] She's like, okay.

[297] So when I sat down, she was like, all right, the way it works here is like, I just see words or symbols or things around you.

[298] So if I just look around, like, don't think I'm not paying attention to you.

[299] I'm just how I see things.

[300] And so I'm like, all right.

[301] So I'm sitting there.

[302] She's telling me all this stuff.

[303] And she says, whatever my job is, I travel a lot and things like that.

[304] And then she all of a sudden kind of was looking at me. She looked over.

[305] She goes, Celebrity.

[306] Are you a celebrity?

[307] And I was like, I only am if you think I am, which is usually how I answer people.

[308] So I don't know.

[309] Did she know who I was?

[310] Probably.

[311] Up in Sedona, they don't watch a lot of TV, I don't think.

[312] You don't think so?

[313] They do.

[314] They sneak it in when no one's looking.

[315] Their lunch break areas just, you know.

[316] They rest their crystals on the TV.

[317] Hopefully sending positive vibes.

[318] Almost all bullshit.

[319] I think almost all psychic stuff is bullshit.

[320] I think...

[321] You don't believe in being intuitive?

[322] I think intuition is a different thing.

[323] Really?

[324] I think when people sit down and they go, I see you in a past life and you are handmade and you work by the river.

[325] Get the fuck out of here.

[326] I think that's all bullshit.

[327] I think those people are just nuts and there's a lot of people that want to think they're special and they want to think that they have special gifts.

[328] Everybody does.

[329] People get really good at reading people.

[330] I know people who are professional magicians and they are expert cold readers.

[331] They could sit down with you and read and tell you remarkable amounts of things with you about your life, just with your answers to questions.

[332] But they'll tell you right away.

[333] They're not psychic.

[334] Like there's a guy named Banachek who's excellent at it.

[335] He's fantastic.

[336] He does a show in Vegas and he freaks people out.

[337] But he'll tell you right away.

[338] I am not a psychic.

[339] He's like, there's techniques to this and it's something I've been doing my whole life and you just get really good at it and he knows how to do it.

[340] And these people are con artists.

[341] They're con artists.

[342] They trick you into thinking that they have.

[343] But they might even believe it themselves.

[344] That's part of the problem.

[345] A lot of those people con themselves.

[346] But I think there is something.

[347] Like when you're thinking about someone and they call you out of nowhere and you haven't talked to them forever.

[348] Those kinds of synchronicities that pop up in your life.

[349] You're like, oh my God, I was thinking about that movie and there it is on TV.

[350] Yeah.

[351] It's entirely possible that there's some bizarre connection that we don't totally understand to events, into people, into things.

[352] Well, like attracts like or where attention goes?

[353] Energy flows.

[354] There's probably a lot to that.

[355] Certain magnetism to those, to things that bring it together.

[356] Yes.

[357] But I think it's very, very poorly understood.

[358] And there's a lot of woo that's clouding it up.

[359] And that woo gets in the way of rational, logical, educated people, even considering it.

[360] They dismiss it instantaneously because it's connected to so many assholes with neon signs.

[361] It's a card reader, palm reader.

[362] And these people that just, they're just ripping you off.

[363] It's all they're doing.

[364] They don't have a real job.

[365] They sit down.

[366] They talk to people for a job.

[367] And, you know, you could say it's entertainment.

[368] You could say that what they're doing is they're providing you with a service.

[369] And that service, they sit down with you.

[370] And maybe by telling you that everything's going to be amazing, you'll walk out of there with a lot of enthusiasm and then life will be amazing.

[371] Who knows?

[372] Do you believe that?

[373] If you think your life's going to be amazing, it will be?

[374] No. No, you get hit by a meteor.

[375] You get to walk out of the house.

[376] You could fall into a crack in the ground from an earthquake.

[377] I mean, those people that died in the tsunami in Thailand, Were they bad people?

[378] No. They just...

[379] So is there any level of woo that's worth following through on?

[380] I think it's all things.

[381] I think some of the connections and the intuition and some superstitions and ideas that we have are probably based in this limited understanding that we have in the connection that we have to events and humans and life.

[382] But I think there's also bullshit involved too.

[383] And all these things get very cloudy.

[384] I don't think there's an absolute.

[385] But I think it's entirely possible that intuition is a developing sense that we don't totally have yet.

[386] I think if you think about all the things that people can do, hearing and seeing and touching and smelling and all the different senses that we have, we assume that that covers the full gamut of possibilities, but I don't think that's true.

[387] No, I think you're right.

[388] And I mean, even just visually, visually, you know, we don't see the full spectrum of, we see a very, very small amount.

[389] of things that are out there.

[390] Yeah, and audio as well.

[391] You know, we can't hear all the sounds.

[392] Yeah, I mean, it's entirely possible that there's more going on.

[393] Like, there's certain people that just have a weird feel to them.

[394] You meet him, you're like, I just got to get away from this guy.

[395] Bad vibe.

[396] Yeah.

[397] There's definitely people that they're giving off weird feelings.

[398] And it could be that you're reading their intent in some sort of a way that you don't see visually, but you recognize by their body language.

[399] There could be a bunch of things at play there.

[400] Well, you didn't run when you met me, so.

[401] No. I appreciate that.

[402] I mean, I know we're probably scheduled to do this interview, so you couldn't.

[403] I was looking forward to this.

[404] Why would I run?

[405] I mean, I was impressed by your intensity, but I expected that in a way.

[406] I mean, I don't see how you could be a race car driver and not be intense, especially be a woman and a race car driver and not be intense.

[407] Well, that's nothing I even thought about until I was like 14 for the first few years of racing.

[408] Way late in life.

[409] I didn't even think about being a girl out there.

[410] It wasn't until I had cameras following me around my school.

[411] and stuff that I was like, all right, maybe this is.

[412] And then they start asking you about it.

[413] They're like, what's it like to be a girl?

[414] You're like, shit, I don't know, I haven't really thought about that.

[415] How many other girls do it?

[416] I mean, there are various girls here and there, but, you know.

[417] Like in all of NASCAR, how many women are racing?

[418] Oh, at my level?

[419] No. Yes.

[420] Zero.

[421] Yeah.

[422] That's crazy.

[423] Oh.

[424] That's pretty crazy.

[425] I don't know.

[426] Yeah, that's crazy.

[427] Well, take it from me. I'm on the outside.

[428] When people ask me, what's it like to be a girl in racing?

[429] I'm like, well, I don't really know what it's.

[430] like to be a guy so you know I only have my perspective that's true you know I mean I don't like being a girl versus a guy what's the difference I don't know what's it like to be a guy yeah probably different but I think that like what's it like to be a woman that's the only woman who's in NASCAR at your level that's that's a valid question I mean that's crazy how does everybody else treat you yeah that that that really is the the main question I can't because I'm not them.

[431] And I know that from enough experience now, because I used to not really look into it much, and in the IndyCar days, you couldn't hit each other.

[432] You know, you really, I mean, it was, you know, you could block and things like that.

[433] So there was some guys out there that were assholes, and I didn't like them.

[434] But, you know, sometimes every driver has some other drivers that they don't really get along with.

[435] And so, but in NASCAR, you can hit each other.

[436] And it's, you have bumpers and which is really cool, but it also isn't cool because if somebody wants, to do what they can.

[437] So what would I say?

[438] I would say that they don't want to get passed by a girl.

[439] And you know what?

[440] I don't either.

[441] Is that weird?

[442] No. I really don't.

[443] I mean, I've driven.

[444] I've raced with girls and I don't like it.

[445] So do you feel differently when a guy passes you than when a girl passes you?

[446] Probably.

[447] Yeah?

[448] In what way?

[449] Well, you know, it's...

[450] Do you just go internally?

[451] That bitch.

[452] I'm like, I can't believe my car isn't faster right now.

[453] This sucks.

[454] But if it's a guy that passes you, it's just a race.

[455] But then there are other cars that are not good that I'm like, you know, come on the radio and I'll be like, yeah, I just want you to see what car passed me and how bad my car is out right now.

[456] So it happens with guys too, but, you know, I don't know.

[457] It's just a cultural norm that girls aren't good and a lot, you know, aren't very good and that they somewhat don't belong.

[458] And I get like the little bit of animosity at first, but I would have thought.

[459] that people would have got used to it a little bit more than they did so but you have that cultural animosity you were saying a little bit yeah yeah and i don't know where it comes from but when you say that it's a it's a cultural norm that girls aren't good you don't think about that about yourself no yeah see i knew that no there's you don't have any doubts no i look at everyone out there i'm like you suck because of this and i'm going to beat you because of that and oh god i hate you and you don't think because i'm a girl i'm not as good as no no not at all so why would you think that about the other girl i don't know I just, it's because I'm not used to it, right?

[460] You just, something you're not used to.

[461] Yeah, that makes sense.

[462] Yeah, well, also, it's like you're unique.

[463] I mean, what if you were out there in the gym and some girl comes and picks up more weight than you and you're like, oh, that's weird?

[464] I'd be like, that bitch is on Roids.

[465] She probably would be.

[466] Well, she's some Amazon, some freak, some genetic freak.

[467] I'll try to sign her.

[468] I just bring her to the U .S .A. Yeah, no kidding.

[469] Do you know how throw a punch?

[470] Yeah.

[471] Uh -huh.

[472] Yeah, I don't know.

[473] I think we all have cultural prejudices, you know, to a certain, extent whether we admit it or not and you know maybe you're not a bigot maybe you're just maybe just have reservations and you're pleasantly surprised when people surpass those expectations yeah you know but i would think that uh you would experience probably more discrimination as a woman uh than i mean if you think about a woman doing almost any other job like if you're telling me you're the only woman that does that and you're at this intense intense macho job.

[474] This is a fucking intense job.

[475] I mean, you're going 200 miles an hour.

[476] Blah, blah, blah, everybody's, it's nuts.

[477] That's a crazy job.

[478] And you're out there at the top of the food chain with all these men.

[479] Yeah.

[480] I would imagine there's two things that happen.

[481] There's a bunch of guys that treat you with respect.

[482] They're like, wow.

[483] They're like impressed.

[484] They're cool with you.

[485] They're like, she's one of us.

[486] That's right.

[487] And then there's a few that are just dicks.

[488] Mm -hmm.

[489] And those dicks are just incorrigible.

[490] Man, the amount of times I wish I was good at taking people out.

[491] I wish people knew how hard it was to actually take someone out on track.

[492] It's not that easy.

[493] Because you can risk yourself.

[494] And if your car doesn't handle very well, you can't get close enough to them.

[495] If you could, you would just move the air, which is almost like hitting them and get them out of the way.

[496] But sometimes the car doesn't handle well enough.

[497] So, like, you'd have to just bomb in there and, God, Will, Will, you hit them to get you to slow down and then they go sailing and you keep going but it's risk that's a rare moment right yeah have you done that before oh i've tried to take people i suck at it absolutely suck at it i've taken myself out like three times trying to do it i mean look i'll be the lamb i don't mind to make a point um so you do that to make a point if someone's driving like a dick yeah look you're like yeah oh yeah there was a what was the one that was the most sad was it was a couple years ago, it was in Martinsville, and this is when something was going down with, it was Matt Kenseth and Joey Lugano, and it was during the chase, which is the last 10 races of the season, and they were in the chase, Matt and Joey, and Joey had made it so that Matt couldn't get in because he took him out a week earlier, a week or two earlier, and then they got to Martinsville, and it's a very, very small short track, it's just a half a mile, and so it's easy to kind of be able to attack if you want to.

[498] And so he just straight took him out.

[499] And there was a whole big hoopla about it.

[500] People up in arms thought it was totally unfair.

[501] And anyway, during the same race, some asshole hits me, takes spins me out.

[502] And so I come back and I'm a lap down or something because he spins me out.

[503] And I go to take him out and I just sail off into the corner.

[504] He manages to kind of keep going.

[505] I spin again because I'm horrible at it.

[506] And turns out that, you know, I, get a $50 ,000 fine because I am, I'm not racing for a position because I was a lap down.

[507] And they applied that because that was also the same race that Matt and Joey had their big thing.

[508] And I think maybe Joey was leading or something like that.

[509] I think he was leading and it was on a restart.

[510] So they weren't racing for position either.

[511] So that was kind of like their rule that they put forth to make for, I mean, Matt probably got $100 ,000 or $200 ,000 fine.

[512] but there I am, you know, not the, I'm definitely screwed in this scenario.

[513] So I got to find 50 grand for it, and I'm the one that's out.

[514] So if you're racing for a position, then it's okay to bump into each other?

[515] Apparently, yeah.

[516] So really, you're the one that's screwed because if you're racing, if someone takes you out and then you're still racing for a position, now you're going to have to be potentially, you know, putting yourself in another position to get taken out when they started it.

[517] It's a no win for the person that's being aggressed by the aggressor.

[518] Was it always legal to bump into each other?

[519] It's gone kind of through waves of different rules, but yeah, I mean, it is legal.

[520] But whenever a big accident happens and there's a tragedy, I would assume that that's when they tighten down the rules.

[521] Sometimes.

[522] Sometimes.

[523] Sometimes not.

[524] Sometimes, sometimes not.

[525] They just accept that it's part.

[526] Sometimes it just happens.

[527] Sometimes it's just, usually if there's something like that that happens, it's not from one person's action.

[528] it's maybe a chain of events that leads to something like that.

[529] It's one of the rare jobs that you do that's a sport, one of the rare sports, where the potential for death is always there.

[530] Yeah, that's true.

[531] It is true.

[532] Is that one of the reasons why you decided, like, enough is enough?

[533] I am not a daredevil.

[534] Like, I am not a daredevil.

[535] I went bungee jumping, and that is the bravest thing I've ever done otherwise.

[536] And I only did it because I'm afraid of heights, so I just needed to know that if I had to conquer a fear, I could.

[537] Well, what's your definition of a daredevil?

[538] You're a race car driver.

[539] To do things or you can potentially get hurt.

[540] I'm not, though.

[541] That's true.

[542] Yeah, but you're a race car driver.

[543] I know, but I'm a methodical driver.

[544] I'm methodical.

[545] I don't go out there and just, you know, hold it wide open until the car does something.

[546] And then I'm like, oh, better lift now.

[547] I'm like a methodical driver, so I build up.

[548] Well, I think what you're saying is you're not stupid.

[549] Ah, thank you, Joe.

[550] That's very nice.

[551] That was like a really, really nice way to say that.

[552] Yeah, you're not dumb, but you're.

[553] definitely a daredevil.

[554] Thank you.

[555] You have to be.

[556] I'm not.

[557] There's no way you can not be.

[558] I'm just not.

[559] I'm serious.

[560] You drive 200 miles an hour for a living.

[561] Anybody that really knows me knows that I'm not brave.

[562] Oh, wow, that's so crazy.

[563] I know.

[564] I think you're talking crazy.

[565] A crazy talk over here.

[566] Well, you know, it's true.

[567] I just have been grooming this talent since I was 10 and 26 years later.

[568] I'm okay with it.

[569] I think it's both of those things, but I think there's no doubt that you're a brave person.

[570] Actually, my first time in a go -kart was horrible.

[571] What were you, three?

[572] Ten.

[573] Ten.

[574] And my sister was eight.

[575] My dad built a go -carts.

[576] There was a big parking lot out back.

[577] So we got like spray cans, WD -4, whatever.

[578] Pop cans, I don't know, whatever.

[579] Yeah, I grew up in the Midwest, so pop.

[580] And set him up in a big circle for my sister and I to go out and drive around and drive our go -carts for the first time.

[581] And my dad made, there was a little mistake with the brake pedal.

[582] And so it stopped working.

[583] And since I'm 10 and I'm really young and dumb and I don't know what I'm doing, young, dumb and broke.

[584] I guess I was, yeah, like the song goes.

[585] But I went to hit the break.

[586] It wasn't there.

[587] So instead of just spinning out or continuing to turn, I just went straight.

[588] And I was headed for trailer, like kind of a higher elevated trailer, which would have resulted in decapitation.

[589] And I swerved at the last second and hit a concrete wall.

[590] And I, like, go flying.

[591] And my arm lays back on.

[592] on the muffler and my cool puffy jacket burns and like I bruises all up my legs and on my arms and that was my first time in a go cart within you know five or ten minutes of being out there and so my dad just got a new one and built it and we went racing so maybe I am really brave I don't know you're right maybe it's I always felt like an indie car to some degree I wasn't brave because people were willing to do things that were perceivably more brave but I also I did describe them as dumb.

[593] You're right.

[594] So I, you're probably a little right and I'm maybe a little right too, but you're right.

[595] I think you're definitely brave, but I think there's definitely a line where bravery becomes stupid because the risk outweighs the reward.

[596] 100%.

[597] Yeah.

[598] That's a masculine thing in a lot of ways because it's testosterone makes you do really stupid shit.

[599] Does it?

[600] Like what?

[601] Well, they're all competing against each other and they're trying to out -machle each other.

[602] I mean, you could go, there's a bunch of Twitter accounts so you can go and see, what's that one, hold this beer?

[603] Yeah.

[604] There's a Twitter account called Hold My Beer.

[605] While I do what?

[606] Exactly, while I do everything.

[607] It's like people jumping off roofs and stupid shit.

[608] It's almost all men.

[609] There's occasionally a drunk girl doing something stupid, but it's almost entirely men.

[610] So I would think that men trying to out -macho each other.

[611] Are you saying men are somewhat inferior then?

[612] Because they do a lot of dumb stuff.

[613] Maybe their hormones are not in balance like ours?

[614] They definitely, when competing against each other, will do dumb shit.

[615] You think that's a testosterone.

[616] Testosterone's to blame.

[617] Well, they try to out -macho each other.

[618] Yeah.

[619] I mean, some don't.

[620] Some are smart and they don't, but, you know, there's just a part of being a man. It's like trying to prove that you're not scared.

[621] What else is part of being a man?

[622] Tell me about men.

[623] What do you want to know?

[624] I don't know.

[625] What else is very manly that women don't understand?

[626] What don't women understand about men?

[627] That's a good question.

[628] I have no idea what you understand about it.

[629] maybe just speak from experience hmm yeah but I don't know what like if we ask a guy like what's wrong oh see that's just nonsense talk see that's the day how many girls out there are like honey what's wrong what's wrong and you're like nothing but really is it really nothing yeah sometimes you just want to like decompress you know sometimes you just wound up so is that annoying when a girl does that depends on the girl you know What do you mean?

[630] It depends on the girl.

[631] If she's annoying, yeah, it's annoying.

[632] But if you're in love with her and she's awesome.

[633] Then she's like, what's wrong?

[634] Like, oh, nothing, we're good.

[635] Yeah.

[636] It depends.

[637] So be with the right one?

[638] Oh, 100%.

[639] That's 100%.

[640] Yeah.

[641] If someone's asking you questions and you're getting really fucking annoyed, it's probably not the question.

[642] It's probably more the person.

[643] If you think someone's amazing and they ask you something stupid, you'll just laugh.

[644] You won't get annoyed.

[645] And you guys can both joke around.

[646] about how stupid it was, how the question was dumb.

[647] I like it.

[648] That's good.

[649] If you get angry, it's most likely you're just like...

[650] Annoyed anyway?

[651] You're just like ready to, ready to, ready to sort of fall over that annoying and to get out of my space kind of attitude because you're already annoyed with them anyway.

[652] You already don't really like them.

[653] Yeah, there's probably something that's already rubbing you the wrong way and you're tolerating each other instead of enjoying each other.

[654] Yeah, I mean, I would imagine a person like you, a very intense person, you probably have a difficult time finding, you know, like if you get a square peg and a square hole and everything slides in together perfect and everything's amazing, personality -wise, you know, behavior -wise, I would imagine with someone like you, like, it's very particular.

[655] You have to find someone who appreciates your intensity, right?

[656] Yeah.

[657] Like a lot of times guys are, they want a demure, you know, sort of like docile, little creature.

[658] Like, oh, hi, how you did, boys?

[659] Whatever you need, I'll be home.

[660] Suppers on the table.

[661] We'll be here when you get back.

[662] Right.

[663] And meanwhile, you're out there with a fucking go -car going 150 miles an hour in the driveway.

[664] Yep, yep.

[665] Running five businesses.

[666] Yeah, you're going 200.

[667] Yeah.

[668] So if you're saying what's wrong, the guy's like, fucking nothing, it's probably a bunch of other shit.

[669] That's really wrong.

[670] It's very insightful.

[671] Yeah.

[672] All right.

[673] So what don't men understand about women?

[674] She's taps in her fingers, going through it, everything.

[675] I mean, I just think that we like to be, you know, we like to be told what you're thinking.

[676] I do.

[677] I like to know what someone's thinking.

[678] You know, the whole like, we're just, you know, just keeping to myself, like, tell me about it.

[679] And I want to know what yourself is thinking about.

[680] I want to know about you.

[681] What's going through your head?

[682] communication now is this universal amongst all your girlfriends when you get together and talk about i would think so yeah yeah so the problem is like you look at a guy and say you know you really like this fucking dude some crazy mystery like what's going on your head man yeah that's not good spit it out everyone wants to know where they stand and what someone's thinking oh where they stand well because and where they stand and what they're thinking because you know what if they're thinking about someone else oh so you need to know if they're yeah you just know if you're in.

[683] Yeah, 100%.

[684] Yeah.

[685] I'm just an all in person.

[686] So for me, it's not a mystery.

[687] Like, you want to know what's going on my head?

[688] I'll tell you right now.

[689] That's intense.

[690] Yeah.

[691] Yeah.

[692] So, yeah, if a guy's like off drifting, you automatically assume, this motherfucker's thinking about somebody else.

[693] Yeah, what are you up to?

[694] Exactly.

[695] That's what you're thinking.

[696] Yeah.

[697] Yeah.

[698] Exactly.

[699] You want to be able to ask.

[700] I guess guys probably do that too.

[701] And girls like to hear nice things too.

[702] Girls like to hear, you know, girls like to be, you know, girls like, you know, to be appreciated, just like a guy does.

[703] I mean, I think that's my advice most of the time in relationships.

[704] I'm like, sympathy goes a really long way because I know it goes a long way with me no matter what facet of my life it is.

[705] But, you know, sympathy goes a long way.

[706] So, you know, if your husband's in a bad mood, then why don't you just actually start off with instead of feeling like you're underappreciated going, hey, baby, look like you've had a really long day and I'm sure you've been working your butt off.

[707] Like, what can I, can I make you dinner?

[708] Like, what do you want?

[709] what's your favorite you know and they'll probably go oh you know what it's not that not that big of a deal you know babe i'm fine hey let me take you out to dinner i get to eat the sympathy gets sympathy back and you don't it's not it's not good to do it to get it necessarily but you should really feel like you are sympathetic like if they're in a bad place try and help them that's sound advice yeah be nice to each other just sympathy just be nice because most people go underappreciate especially in a relationship i think the longer it goes there's a lot of underappreciation and assumptions that get made about, well, who does what and checks that box off.

[710] Yeah, and people get used to each other.

[711] It's probably, especially with kids, right?

[712] I mean, I'm not sure with kids, it gets way worse.

[713] It's just, there's a lot of time that's involved with taking care of those little suckers.

[714] You've got to pay attention to them and talk to them.

[715] And if you have more than one, like, once you start talking to one, the other one wants to just chime in, you know, and show you what they're doing.

[716] You're like, wait, I was busy just trying to make sure you don't die.

[717] And now I got to deal with this.

[718] Yeah Yeah, I think People get used to things You know And that's a part of the problem It's like they get used to each other Take it for granted Yeah, they do And then And then You know, it's like I always tell people Aspire to be the person You pretend to be When you're trying to get laid If you could be that person All the time You would have a much better life That's true I also love the expression For every hot chick There's a dude sick of scrooner Yeah, I don't say it that way but yes I use more flavorful language but yeah Was that too much or too little?

[719] Too little Oh yeah How would you say it?

[720] For every hot chick There's a guy somewhere That's tired of fucking her Okay That's how you'd say it Okay But yeah I mean I guess But that's not entirely true either No it's not I mean it's for the most part A lot of the times it's true But a lot of the times people don't appreciate Their circumstance Exactly And then it's with various aspects your life like I always feel like that like I just got over the flu a week and a half ago I had the flu and I was sick for like two days and then when I was sick I was thinking man I don't appreciate how good I feel when I'm healthy because here I am lying here I'll ache in watching Netflix feeling like shit going wow when I'm healthy and I'm working out and I'm running and doing jujitsu and all the activities and I got all this energy and I feel great like I just can't do anything right now.

[721] Yeah.

[722] I just take it for granted.

[723] You do.

[724] Yeah.

[725] You forget.

[726] Like, you don't, the joy of just being healthy.

[727] It just escapes us.

[728] We just so think it's normal.

[729] Just like a person you take them for granted.

[730] Yep.

[731] Yep.

[732] Now, do you think that you're stepping away from race car driving when you deciding just like enough is enough?

[733] Do you think that in some ways that this is you appreciating other aspects of life too?

[734] that you're looking at your racing thing and you're like, you know what?

[735] I did a lot.

[736] I did enough.

[737] And then why don't I just appreciate all the other stuff?

[738] Well, I think that's a good question that will lead me into a good thought.

[739] Like, I think it's actually more me being honest.

[740] Like, I think everyone would expect since I do what I do at the level that I do it at that racing is my only thing I care about.

[741] I love it so much.

[742] I'll do anything.

[743] I drive every day.

[744] And the truth is, no. I like racing, but there's a lot of things I don't really like about it, too.

[745] And I'm grateful for everything it's given me. But if you were to ask me what I do outside of racing in my personal life, I don't go to the racetrack.

[746] I don't really watch races.

[747] I don't do that.

[748] So those aren't my hobbies.

[749] Like, your hobbies are your real loves.

[750] What do you not like about it?

[751] Well, I would say that in the last year or so, just the, as far as an energetic space, it's just so sad and nice.

[752] at a lot of the time.

[753] And even in just racing in general, most of the time it's miserable.

[754] Like you have some days that are good, but most of the time it's not happy and you wish there was you're not satisfied.

[755] You wish somebody would have treated you better out there.

[756] There's so many things to be negative about and just the grind of it.

[757] It's the people like everybody's worn out and you know, you have to be really careful about the people that are around you because they've got to be in a good mood because it's easy to spiral out of control because you see each other three, four days a week every week for 40 weeks a year.

[758] So, you know, you've got to be in a good space with people.

[759] But it still doesn't alienate you completely, even if you're in a good space with people, the ones next to you, because you got a car next to you on both sides in the garage and haulers next to each other and buses right next to each other.

[760] And you see a bunch of other people.

[761] So, you know, it's just, I don't know, there's a lot of negativity to some degree.

[762] a lot of grind.

[763] It just kind of feels like the grind a little bit.

[764] And so I just kind of felt like it wasn't a space that I wanted to be in as much anymore.

[765] Like I want to be in a happy space where I'm just doing things that have bring me joy.

[766] And yeah, it just wasn't doing that as much.

[767] Or I was noticing it.

[768] I was noticing I was missing that or wanting it more.

[769] I think that's really what it comes from is growing as a person and realizing.

[770] I think everybody's afraid to take chances and do something new in their life because they're identified a certain way or they'll be judged if they don't do it or judged if they do something different and who are they now and are they crazy and what are they thinking and you know it's just life just do things that make you happy.

[771] It's interesting because you're talking about this and the negative aspects of it is all interpersonal relationships.

[772] It's all talking to people.

[773] You're not talking about that the grind of racing itself like the heat of being in the car.

[774] and the strain and the intensity and the nerves.

[775] You're not talking about that.

[776] Yeah, I didn't.

[777] I didn't.

[778] That's not the first thing.

[779] I mean, that exists on some level, but I mean, that's fine.

[780] I work out twice a day a lot of times, so I'm okay with the whole, like, physical grind of things.

[781] What do you do?

[782] CrossFit and like interval running, training, sprinting, stuff like that, circuits.

[783] Twice a day.

[784] Intervalt stuff.

[785] Yeah.

[786] A couple days a week.

[787] gotta do twice a day maybe more intensity yeah very intense for sure yeah that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the name of the game and get it get in get out um so so yeah so i mean that that is part of it the physical part of racing exists and it is exhausting but i mean you recover from that every weekend um but yeah it's yeah it's just and i just love so many other things like what are you what are you going to do now um well the longest project i have is my wine um i bought the property in 2009, planted a vineyard, and it's finally for sale.

[788] So it's called...

[789] So you started in 2009, so nine years of doing this?

[790] Bought the property, planted it.

[791] Yep, started from nothing.

[792] Wow.

[793] So it came from, in 2006, I went to Napa Valley on a trip and was on this beautiful property and was like looking at the fog in the valley, and it was wonderful kishes and fruits for breakfast and this amazing white wine.

[794] And I was like, man, it would be so cool if I could have something like this someday, but I don't have $50 million, at least not right now anyway.

[795] And because I never abandoned the thought that I would be able to afford that someday.

[796] I just didn't, I couldn't then.

[797] So anyway, I just started the process a different way.

[798] I didn't buy a wine that was built and established for the vineyard.

[799] I bought dirt.

[800] Planted the vineyard.

[801] Now, how do you go about doing that?

[802] Do you hire someone?

[803] Well, that day I met a winemaker who ended up going into consulting instead of just being at one winery.

[804] And so he actually helped me pick the property.

[805] He's still my winemaker today.

[806] So you buy this piece of land and then, like, who does the day -to -day stuff?

[807] You're so busy.

[808] Yeah, I have a GM now who handles all of it and does the promotion and gets it in restaurants and, you know, helps sell it.

[809] What's it called?

[810] Somnium, which is a Latin word.

[811] Latin word means dream.

[812] Wow.

[813] Yeah.

[814] I was looking at some language translations trying to come up with.

[815] I was probably trying to come up with some sort of an LLC or something like that to cover the property up.

[816] And I was like, oh, no, this is way too cool.

[817] This is what the wine should be called.

[818] So Somnium, it's a Latin word.

[819] And are you doing red and white or just white?

[820] So red to start.

[821] The only, the vineyard is Cabernet, Petit Verdot.

[822] And so from the Cab Franque and Petit Verdot.

[823] Bleed off, we're going to make a rosé this year.

[824] And then we also then sourced some grapes from Knights Valley to make a Savignon Blanc.

[825] So we just decided it was going to come out in the spring along with the cab early release and the and the rosé.

[826] But it needed some time in barrel.

[827] So we're going to wait a little longer and put it in barrel.

[828] That's fascinating.

[829] So that much take a shitload of your time and thinking as well?

[830] Honestly, that's probably the least amount of my time.

[831] Really?

[832] that company.

[833] But I would imagine if you have this giant investment, you got this guy working for sure.

[834] I would imagine.

[835] Yeah.

[836] You have someone working for you.

[837] They're growing grapes.

[838] I have two employees and farmers that farm it.

[839] Not full.

[840] I mean, they farm many other properties, but, but yeah.

[841] Were you affected it all by the crazy fires up there?

[842] No, actually, I was really lucky.

[843] The Napa Valley fires were I'm on Silverado Trail side up.

[844] It's actually very, very close to Hall Mountain Appalachian, but it's like, like 60 feet off of being Halmont in Appalachian.

[845] So anyway, way down south on Silverado Trail, there was fire.

[846] And then straight across the valley, not too far laterally across, but it was all the way across the valley was the fires on the other side.

[847] So I was about as far away from it all as I could get.

[848] And so I just talked to my winemaker a few days ago and he said that there's really nothing, no residual from any of the fires or anything.

[849] That's amazing.

[850] Like with my wine anyway.

[851] It's such, that whole area.

[852] A bummer.

[853] That fire was insane.

[854] Oh, my gosh.

[855] They said it was going, I forget the exact number, but it was something insane like it was going a football field distance in three seconds, like at its peak.

[856] I know that the big, I think the big reason was the wind came in.

[857] And like 40 plus mile an hour winds came through that night.

[858] Very, very, very devastating for some.

[859] But that's one company.

[860] The clothing line is called Warrior.

[861] So that came out a year ago, January of last year of 17.

[862] Why warrior?

[863] Is it like affliction, like skulls and swords and shit?

[864] No, this is a warrior jacket I have on.

[865] It's very nice.

[866] It's lovely.

[867] No, it's more athleisure.

[868] Athleteisure.

[869] Have you never heard of that?

[870] Athlete leisure?

[871] No. Oh, yeah, it's a whole, there you go, thanks.

[872] I dress like a 17 -year -old.

[873] I don't know anything.

[874] It's, yeah, it's like leggings and sports bras and t -shirts and jackets and sweatshirts and, yeah, athleisure.

[875] So I want to go back to this wine thing.

[876] Oh, good, okay.

[877] So you have this thought in your head.

[878] I should have brought something.

[879] Yeah, well, I'll go buy some.

[880] Tell me where I can get it.

[881] Can you get it anywhere?

[882] At somniumwine .com.

[883] It's not sold in very many places, mostly online.

[884] It's not, there's not very much made, so.

[885] Oh, okay, so you can order it online and you guys will ship it.

[886] Mm -hmm.

[887] Okay.

[888] So now you get this piece of property, and you start talking to this guy who was a consultant, and you start talking about making wine.

[889] Like, what is the, the process?

[890] Like how does it, you have to, you buy the property and then how do you get the seeds?

[891] How do you get the right grapes?

[892] How do you know?

[893] Well, you have to go through a bunch of permitting.

[894] So permitting for plans for it.

[895] There's a certain grades that are not.

[896] So if it's over 20 degrees grade, then you have to have special approvals, but under you can plant.

[897] So I literally planted six acres -ish of max.

[898] It's the max that I could plant on my 24 acres that I have.

[899] that was below 20 -degree grade.

[900] And so you have to go through erosion control permitting because it's, you know, the slopes.

[901] And if you're going to dig up the ground, you don't want it to slide down the mountain if it rains.

[902] So we had to kind of get creative with some of the infrastructure to dissipate the water.

[903] And so it didn't create just rivers and rushing of, you know, new dirt sliding down the hill.

[904] So because it's at elevation a little bit.

[905] So, and then you, hire your farmers and then the winemaker helps pick out the root stock and the clones and then they plan it and you wait a couple of years for it to be ready and then you start making wine so it starts with clones which is the rootstock first oh root stock and what does that mean they graft on the clone that they want what's a root stock it's like so the actual roots yeah that would be i i i wish i knew every single thing that you're asking to the nth degree but i mean that would be like cabernet Petit Verdeau, white wine, whatever.

[906] Were you there when they did all this?

[907] No?

[908] I would want to see what that is.

[909] That sounds fascinating.

[910] Tiny little, tiny little roots.

[911] Yeah.

[912] And then they put the trellising up and then, you know, then you get into, you know, depending on your winemaker, they decide then how much fruit to drop.

[913] So sort of the vine comes up and splits off and makes like a tea.

[914] And so they decide how many clubs.

[915] clusters they keep on each side to determine, you know, what kind of wine you're making.

[916] So, you know, we drop a lot of fruit to make really good wine.

[917] What does that mean by drop fruit?

[918] Like, you lose...

[919] Literally cut the cluster off of the vine.

[920] Oh.

[921] So you, yeah.

[922] That's why, like, if you're buying bulk wine, it's...

[923] They're not dropping a damn thing.

[924] Right.

[925] Right?

[926] If you're buying grapes, they're also not dropping a damn thing, or not as much, probably, because they're...

[927] Because they're...

[928] the ton so this is a long process oh it's a really long process like to go nine years from the time you start to making your first bottles and that's probably why most people you know i mean if you have enough money to build a winery you're probably a bit older and like you run out of time yeah you know yeah i mean especially if you're going to get any return on your investment you know i'm a lot of millions in the hole but you know whatever it's a passion project do are you doing it as an investment are you doing it because just you because i love it um and uh yeah i can because you can yeah why not do what you can yeah yeah it's just money yeah and i love the lifestyle so i want to share that with people the lifestyle of napa yeah yeah yeah wine you know the connection that you create you know sitting down together and sharing it um the stories of the vineyard the story of how it came along i mean i have the good thing is is people were like well you got to have a story i'm like well i have a story.

[929] But that's what people connect to.

[930] So that's, you know, so then it's a matter of getting that story to the Psalms in different restaurants so that they can tell you the story of Somnium.

[931] And then, you know, you're like, oh, that sounds amazing.

[932] Oh, that's hers.

[933] That's so cool.

[934] Like, I would love it if my wine was a good story that someone told.

[935] And then they were like, oh, and this is actually Danica Patrick's wine.

[936] And you're like, oh, no way?

[937] Yeah, I got to try that.

[938] You know what I mean?

[939] I'd rather have that be the back story than the front story.

[940] Do you know, um, Maynard Keenan from Tool?

[941] Do you know, oh, yeah, yeah.

[942] I've drank his wine before.

[943] Could he see us?

[944] Caduceus?

[945] Caduceus.

[946] I just, yes, yes, I have some.

[947] It's in my fridge right now.

[948] Got it a long time ago.

[949] Got it up in Jerome.

[950] Jerome, Arizona.

[951] He has a little cellar door in Jerome.

[952] That's awesome.

[953] Yeah, yeah.

[954] I've never met him.

[955] I try to meet him.

[956] I called and I was like, eh, but it didn't work.

[957] He's actually in town, I think.

[958] Yeah, I think he's still here.

[959] He was just, he was here yesterday for sure.

[960] Yeah, he sources some of his grapes from California, I think, for some of his wine.

[961] Yeah, he did a similar thing, but he did it in Arizona.

[962] He just bought this land and then developed it.

[963] He makes some in Arizona, but the red, I think the better red came from California.

[964] Is that what?

[965] He's a freak.

[966] He's a real crazy person.

[967] Oh, yeah?

[968] In what way?

[969] Super intelligent, just super, super smart.

[970] Like, too smart.

[971] Too smart to talk to most people.

[972] He's just so out there and intense as well.

[973] And maybe it's had something to do with the choices.

[974] So he, I mean, he's a lead singer of three fucking bands and then says, you know what?

[975] Yeah, and then let me just start making my own wine.

[976] Yeah.

[977] Opened up a restaurant.

[978] Like, he's just, he can't do enough shit.

[979] He does jujitsu all the time.

[980] Can't do enough shit.

[981] Is that where you got to know him?

[982] Yeah, and he was over here for jujitsu seminars.

[983] John Donaheher.

[984] He was at one of his seminars yesterday.

[985] Yeah.

[986] No, he's a maniac.

[987] Maybe weirdos make wine then.

[988] I think so.

[989] Well, I think...

[990] I'd rather be weird than normal.

[991] I think that's a good way of looking at things.

[992] There's nothing wrong with being weird.

[993] Normal and conventional are the opposite of weird.

[994] I looked it up.

[995] I don't want to be either of those.

[996] Yeah, well, it depends.

[997] You know, conventional wisdom's not bad.

[998] It said conventional.

[999] Yeah.

[1000] There's some normal that's not bad, you know?

[1001] I like normal cheeseburgers, you know?

[1002] I don't.

[1003] See, I want caramelized onions.

[1004] I want a fried egg.

[1005] I want maple bacon.

[1006] Oh, you're a pain in the ass.

[1007] I love food.

[1008] Like, I love food.

[1009] I eat more than most everyone.

[1010] Do you?

[1011] Yes.

[1012] Yeah?

[1013] But you're tiny.

[1014] you put it away well you work out twice a day yeah some days I didn't work out today it didn't work out it didn't work out it didn't work out but um yeah I uh I do eat a lot my sister and I both do we're both like a hundred 10ish pounds and we are both like five foot and we both eat a ton but we work where you do we do work we do work out with your little hummingbirds like all that energy you're burning off probably burning calories constantly we look at each other They were like, I would die without fat.

[1015] I need a lot of fat in my diet.

[1016] Yeah.

[1017] Maynard opened up a restaurant, too.

[1018] In L .A.?

[1019] No, in Arizona.

[1020] So it sort of features wines and food.

[1021] Where in Arizona?

[1022] Because I know Jerome is pretty far from, like, I mean, my place is in Scottsdale, so.

[1023] Yeah, he's out in the middle of nowhere.

[1024] He's his vineyard.

[1025] Then it's probably Jerome.

[1026] Yeah, I think it's in that area.

[1027] Jerome's on the top of a mountain.

[1028] I mean, this is a cool place to go.

[1029] if you're ever visiting Arizona, Jerome is really interesting.

[1030] You kind of wind up this mountain.

[1031] You get up the top.

[1032] It's like supposedly all haunted.

[1033] And it's very bizarre.

[1034] But there's, yeah, he, I mean, the last I knew, it was a very long time ago that I was there.

[1035] But it, he has a cool cellar door and there's some restaurants and whatnot.

[1036] And it's on top of a mountain.

[1037] Yeah.

[1038] That's, that's Maynard.

[1039] That's the kind of thing he's into.

[1040] And he's very wise, too, about balancing out the rock star life versus.

[1041] Like, that's one of the things that I think was attractive to him about creating a wine and being in a smaller area.

[1042] I mean, I think I feel like I've figured out in my life how much grounding I need to balance me out.

[1043] And it's not like, it's not just like everybody needs 50, 50, 50, you know?

[1044] Right.

[1045] It's been 50 % of the time walking around in the woods and 50 % of the time doing your shit.

[1046] It's, you know, everybody's different.

[1047] So for me, it's like, you know, maybe 20 % of the time I need to take a walk in nature or, do a yoga class or meditate or something like that yeah do you feel like do you need decompression time just from the whole celebrity thing just being interviewed and media and people paying attention to you want to take pictures with you that's just the constant assault I don't feel it's exhausting because I'm listening and I'm paying attention I'm answering your questions honestly where I think most people can just go into sort of like autopilot mode and it's probably not as mentally exhausting for them I need for me it's just being on you know what I mean right like you just have to be on all the time you know so the the being on part is nice to get away from yeah I was but I'm so it's kind of answering the questions but it's really just a matter of having like you know navigating life and people staring at you or wanting something from you or thinking they want something from you just because you're trained because too many people have wanted something from you to, you know, just the demands of the things that you're doing and running around.

[1048] I mean, I'm on an airplane twice a week doing stuff, so you just get exhausted from that.

[1049] Yeah, that's not healthy either, right?

[1050] Mm. Yeah.

[1051] Do you feel like you're going to step away from public life when you stop racing?

[1052] Do you're going to fade into the normalcy?

[1053] No. You don't think so?

[1054] No. I'd love to have a cooking show, so.

[1055] A cooking show?

[1056] Mm -hmm.

[1057] Like I said, I love cooking.

[1058] Yeah.

[1059] I'm like what kind of stuff anything I'm not much of a baker though that's because I'm a free spirit baking is all down to a science you're like measure everything it's got to be certain temperature and I'm one of those just dump it in a bowl taste it does it need more sugar does it need more acid doesn't need be more rich with fat does it need spice doesn't need what does it need now are you going off of books do you take classes like how did you learn how to cook well when I moved to England when I was 16.

[1060] I lived by myself eventually.

[1061] Why did you do that?

[1062] Why did you move to England?

[1063] To race.

[1064] You were racing in England?

[1065] Yeah.

[1066] I left high school when I was 16 and moved to England and then I lived there for three years.

[1067] How do your parents handle that?

[1068] I think my mom cried a lot.

[1069] Yeah, I couldn't imagine.

[1070] But they couldn't, you know, they also couldn't imagine me not having the opportunity, so they let me go.

[1071] And I left high school.

[1072] What kind of racing were you doing there?

[1073] The lowest level open wheel racing so what's that mean open wheel just means that the wheels are exposed really okay versus stock cars which are NASCAR um so open wheel wheels open so there was no wings on the cars that I was driving over there at that point in time so it was just you know no wing open wheel cars so I was just you know starting my starting my career really because from go carts I didn't want to be a professional go car driver so I I was like I'll just get into cars as soon as I can how'd this come up?

[1074] Well, I was 14 and I was at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and I went into a suite and there was some British dude in there.

[1075] So I started asking about cars and again, we're at the racetrack.

[1076] And this family that he works for has a team, has a race team.

[1077] And so I guess I asked all the right questions.

[1078] And two years later when I was 16, they asked me and my dad to come back to Indy and meet with them and talk about going over to England to race.

[1079] And they said I could learn more in one year in England than five years in America, and it was not true at all, but I did it anyway.

[1080] Fucking English people, you're crazy.

[1081] Pompous, no. Just get the fuck out of here.

[1082] I might make people from England mad, but there's not many that I've liked.

[1083] Whoa.

[1084] I love English people.

[1085] Do you?

[1086] Do you?

[1087] Yeah.

[1088] I think they're wonderful.

[1089] Maybe it was just my environment.

[1090] Like, they, no one, no one kept in touch after I left.

[1091] I lived there for three years and no one kept in touch with me at all.

[1092] Maybe you were too intense for English people.

[1093] Well, they also have, like, this is where you are and this is where you stay.

[1094] You have, like, a very, like, there's rigid class structures there.

[1095] Oh, well, that ain't me. Yeah.

[1096] Yeah, I have friends that moved to California from England, and they're, like, the people over here are so much more optimistic about the future.

[1097] Yeah, and open -minded, right?

[1098] Like, I mean, just, like, bring you in and prove me wrong instead of, like, prove to me why I got to be your friend.

[1099] Yeah.

[1100] It's kind of a European mentality, a little bit more guarded.

[1101] Well, also being a 16 -year -old girl living there by yourself, not knowing anybody, that had to be really weird.

[1102] I grew a lot.

[1103] So, I learned more there in one year than five years in America from a personal standpoint.

[1104] See, I went over there, and I was very open and unguarded and would tell anyone anything.

[1105] And, you know, how'd that work out for you?

[1106] It didn't work out very well.

[1107] I got hurt a lot.

[1108] I hated men after that.

[1109] Do you hate English accents now?

[1110] Like when you're from men?

[1111] I can't have a mate.

[1112] A little bit.

[1113] A little bit.

[1114] Yeah, I'm a little scarred.

[1115] But anyway, I came home and my parents described me as very cold when I came home.

[1116] Very guarded, very cold.

[1117] Did you guys visit back and forth between the three years?

[1118] I would come home like twice a year and they would come over once or twice a year.

[1119] Oh, so it wasn't too bad.

[1120] But they said you were cold when you got back.

[1121] Yeah.

[1122] You became hard.

[1123] Yep.

[1124] Yep.

[1125] Yeah.

[1126] Fuck that.

[1127] I know.

[1128] Yeah.

[1129] One of the hardest things in life is figuring out who you really are.

[1130] Like what you really enjoy, who you are as a person, what you stand for instead of what culture's told you.

[1131] And what advice he gives someone that's trying to do that.

[1132] Like, I have a nephew.

[1133] He's a great kid, but he doesn't know what the fuck he wants to do.

[1134] He's trying to figure it out now.

[1135] I mean, the first quick couple of things that you can do to identify what it is that you're interested in and, you know, something that's true to you.

[1136] is, you know, just what do you do for your hobbies?

[1137] That's very insightful.

[1138] What do you enjoy to?

[1139] If you were by yourself, there's a job for you.

[1140] I mean, isn't it legal here in California now to?

[1141] Well, sort of.

[1142] So, anyway, sort of legal.

[1143] You'd be like some guru farmer.

[1144] And then also, this is like an odd one, but look at the pictures on your phone or look at the pictures that you post on social media maybe or something like that.

[1145] But whatever you take pictures is also kind of pretty insightful for.

[1146] for what you're interested in.

[1147] Okay.

[1148] You're not taking pictures of stuff that you don't care about.

[1149] That's true.

[1150] It's your phone.

[1151] But what if you're all selfies?

[1152] What if you're all your pictures like?

[1153] Well, then I think your ego is very loud.

[1154] Do you have any selfies on your phone?

[1155] God.

[1156] So the only, the only reason why I, selfies for me are, ah, are so annoying.

[1157] Do you have a selfie stick?

[1158] No. No, no, no, no. But the only way I do them is if I am kind of promoting, right?

[1159] So for me, it's a matter of promoting a healthy lifestyle.

[1160] So maybe it's me in the gym, working out.

[1161] Maybe it's something like that where I can be like post a, like, whatever workout I did and perhaps what you could look like if you did these workouts.

[1162] Oh, sort of.

[1163] Sort of.

[1164] Maybe better, really.

[1165] I mean.

[1166] Please.

[1167] So, you know, those are why I would take a selfie or if it's with someone you really like, you know, you can take.

[1168] a picture with someone that's something that i don't think that does that count as a selfie if it's just you it's you and someone else no no that's just being like somebody else creative with how you're getting a picture of you so yeah selfies the only time i do it really is is pretty much just to promote either like clothes i'm wearing for my clothing line or like workout style stuff for my book but for me i'm not like damn my hair looks good today and you know i i'm like oh look at me and i say nothing you know i say that's just i don't know it's no ego driven I know as a woman who is very ambitious and successful and powerful what do you make of these social media stars now that that just do that they just stick their butt out and take pictures and there's a lot a lot of that it's a weird sex sells yeah it always will yeah um uh you probably deal with it more emotionally yourself because it's a vicious circle where you want to more so you have to keep doing more right you know what i mean you end up that you end up in a place where you don't know yourself anymore because you're doing it to fulfill someone else's wants and desires more than yours yeah right like after a while like you have to keep going to the next level right you have to keep you're like oh i wore this like super cute like leggings in a sports bra now i got to wear a body suit and now i'm wearing a thong and holy crap you know like look at me now i'm yeah what do you do what yeah who are you and after like but some of it's it's it's oddly successful.

[1169] Like, I've gone to some of them.

[1170] Their pages have like 17 million followers.

[1171] I'm like, whoa.

[1172] Whoa.

[1173] I mean, well, what?

[1174] It's, of course, then, it begs the question, like, what is your definition of success then?

[1175] Yeah.

[1176] Because if you don't make money off 17 million followers, then what's the point?

[1177] I think they do, though.

[1178] They do, like, sponsored posts and stuff like that.

[1179] I mean, I agree.

[1180] That's why, again, you have to go to the next level all the time to get more people.

[1181] Yeah.

[1182] It kind of feeds the ego is getting fed. but as a woman who's an attractive woman who's also very ambitious like you could have just been one of those things right like you like when you see someone i mean men i don't think men look at it this way because i don't think there's a lot of guys that like look at guys who just do like workout instagrams or something like that and they get look at this fucking guy how about use your brain bro where's the protein powder but as a woman who you mean you're not fond of and back on your looks is what I'm trying to say.

[1183] It's like you have them, but you, that's just a part of you.

[1184] You're obviously hyper ambitious on top of that.

[1185] When you see someone who's just, do you feel like they're like wasting time or do you feel like that's just them?

[1186] I just feel like it's immaturity.

[1187] I mean, if that's your driving force is just your looks and, you know, but there are some that have some content, but, you know, and they can use it to drive a message.

[1188] I mean, there's some that I've noticed like that that really do have really positive messages, spreading positivity, spreading good things, but promoting good things.

[1189] But for those who aren't, then I just think it's a level of immaturity.

[1190] And it's going to come to, I think it will come to bite them eventually because it's, where does the road lead to?

[1191] Yeah, it's a short -lived success.

[1192] Yeah.

[1193] Yeah.

[1194] Somebody said this once, it's a really great quote, that beauty is a short -lived tyranny.

[1195] Hmm.

[1196] You know, like...

[1197] Well, it kind of leads me to a little bit of a one similar, like the...

[1198] I'm not going to get it right exactly, but it's the, the ego is impatient because it knows its time is limited where the soul is patient because it knows it has forever.

[1199] We should like have memes on like a stripper's Instagram page.

[1200] It'd be perfect.

[1201] That's the kind of inspirational ones.

[1202] It's true.

[1203] And the ego needs to be fed immediately, you know?

[1204] It wants something now and it's not thinking about the long term.

[1205] It's true.

[1206] You know, soul decisions are, you know, perhaps unrealized for an amount of time.

[1207] But, you know, the truth will always come through.

[1208] And so if you're not living it, well, you're going to have a transition.

[1209] Now, when you make, like, if you put like an Instagram post up of workouts and stuff like that, do you do that specifically because you're trying to motivate people?

[1210] Yeah.

[1211] Because it does for me. I mean, when I see somebody hot working out and see a picture of them, I'm like, God, I better get to the gym.

[1212] yeah they get working out oh maybe put that put that chocolate down yeah i i agree i think i mean people especially people in my line of work comedians love to mock things along those lines but i take inspiration off of a lot of people online and i you know my overall like overall what i hope for people too is that um with um with the book i wrote i i just i really want people to find confidence in themselves and develop a healthier relationship with food and exercise.

[1213] And I think most people think of food as a punishment, right?

[1214] They're like, oh, my God, I'll just eat this terrible vegetable.

[1215] Or they're like, I have to work out.

[1216] This sucks where working out can be fun.

[1217] Working out can make you feel good.

[1218] Food can also make you feel good.

[1219] Food is medicine.

[1220] Food will make you not only feel good, but be good and look better.

[1221] So, you know, I really hope that in all of my motivation, it drives people into a direction where they feel good about it all.

[1222] and there's more positivity around it.

[1223] Don't you feel like there's so much negativity around eating healthy and working out?

[1224] There's so many people that just hate it.

[1225] There's quite a bit of that, but I think there's a lot of positivity around it too.

[1226] I think that people are recognizing more and more today the benefits of eating healthy in terms of like psychological benefits, like your mind works better, physical benefits.

[1227] You feel better about your choices.

[1228] You feel better about your momentum in life.

[1229] Like, hey, I'm on the right path.

[1230] I'm eating healthy, I'm taking supplements, I'm working out on a regular basis.

[1231] My body feels, I've got more energy.

[1232] Oh, yeah.

[1233] It's tuned in better.

[1234] I mean, I remember when I cut out dairy and gluten years ago, and my energy level finally was up and consistent, where before it'd be like the random day where you're like, man, why am I so exhausted today?

[1235] Like, I'm just so tired.

[1236] Yeah.

[1237] I didn't have any of those days anymore.

[1238] Yeah.

[1239] When people eat a lot of refined carbohydrates and then shift to a, uh, a diet that has none of that stuff in it, it's stunning.

[1240] Yeah.

[1241] The effect that it has on your midday.

[1242] I always tell people, like, do you need a nap in the middle of the day?

[1243] If you're one of those people, just try.

[1244] Cut out your sugar, cut out your refined carbohydrates, and then watch what happens.

[1245] Yeah.

[1246] You will have so much more energy during the day.

[1247] Not a napper.

[1248] That's for sure.

[1249] Yeah.

[1250] I mean, maybe I like coffee, but.

[1251] Are you one of those four hours of sleep in night, people?

[1252] Actually, I can.

[1253] I don't need a lot.

[1254] I wake up with the sunlight, too.

[1255] So I'm one of those people.

[1256] And I wake up in the morning.

[1257] And, like, I see the light going.

[1258] I'm like, it's morning.

[1259] Is it morning?

[1260] I'm so excited if it's morning.

[1261] I'm ready.

[1262] I love the morning.

[1263] And I'm very chatty.

[1264] And I'm very, like, up and ready to go and, like, get some coffee.

[1265] Wake up.

[1266] Are you awake?

[1267] Do you want to make coffee?

[1268] I'll make coffee.

[1269] Do you want to make coffee?

[1270] Do you want to go running?

[1271] Let's go running.

[1272] That's me. I'm really annoyingly up and ready to go and happy in the morning.

[1273] I love the morning.

[1274] How are you at night, though?

[1275] Sleepy.

[1276] I'm okay.

[1277] I'm okay.

[1278] I'm okay.

[1279] I'm okay.

[1280] I'm okay.

[1281] But once I get horizontal.

[1282] at night it's over like I'm falling asleep you have no insomnia no no yeah I don't think so no I have before it's awful yeah that sucks that's not good but I don't I don't have it no no I'm I'm I'm but once I lay down at night I'm tired now what kind of diet do you follow do you have specific you said no gluten and no dairy and then a couple of years ago um I uh so I uh I did an IVF treatment to freeze my eggs because I'm getting older and I drive race cars and I can't, you know, do any of that stuff.

[1283] So I was like, look, I'm going for the insurance policy here.

[1284] How do they get those out of there?

[1285] Okay, do you really want to know?

[1286] Yeah.

[1287] It's a weird method, right?

[1288] All right.

[1289] So you have a ton of shots for like a month.

[1290] A ton of shots.

[1291] A ton of shots.

[1292] Every day you stick them in your stomach and you have a ton of shots.

[1293] And so they drop your estrogen down to nothing and then they ramp it up.

[1294] And then it multiplies.

[1295] the follicles like the follicles are what grows the egg so you go in after a while and you start getting ultrasounds to see how many follicles are growing on each side so um anyway it was good for me um but that many grows and they want them each to get to like one by basically almost an inch by an inch each of them and i mean i had like i mean this is a lot of information but you know 20 to 30 on each side.

[1296] That's a shitload of real estate in my body.

[1297] It got very uncomfortable.

[1298] 20 to 30 inches on each side.

[1299] Each one's an inch.

[1300] So did people think you were pregnant?

[1301] Yeah, you do.

[1302] You look like three months.

[1303] I mean, it was huge.

[1304] I was so uncomfortable.

[1305] And you're feeling all the eggs in there?

[1306] Yeah, it's horrible.

[1307] Before you name it them.

[1308] This is Bobby.

[1309] You're number seven.

[1310] This is Mike.

[1311] I come from a long line of girls, so I'm pretty sure they're all girls.

[1312] But it's, so I did that.

[1313] And they, they, they, you do this trigger drug thing.

[1314] And then, you know, 36 hours on the minute you go in and you retrieve it.

[1315] And what they do is they, you get wheeled in.

[1316] The room is super like humid and warm.

[1317] Like a jungle.

[1318] Yeah, like a jungle.

[1319] And so animal, wild things in there.

[1320] So they put you in like, they put you in like ski boots.

[1321] Like to get you, get you up and ready.

[1322] Whoa.

[1323] And then some chick was like, all right, I'm going to give you a little.

[1324] A little something relaxing.

[1325] I'm like, girl, you don't have to tell me. Just do it.

[1326] Like, that was what I told her and that was asleep.

[1327] And they go in and every, they go in with a needle and retrieve every one of them.

[1328] One by one.

[1329] With a needle?

[1330] I think, yeah.

[1331] They go in and puncture in through the, through it and retrieve the.

[1332] How many eggs did you get sucked out of there?

[1333] 24.

[1334] Wow.

[1335] So you have a potential 24 children.

[1336] 19 were mature.

[1337] Oh, okay.

[1338] So 19 potential people.

[1339] Yep.

[1340] How many think you're going to make?

[1341] Not that many.

[1342] Have you thought about it?

[1343] No. They say you need 20 to guarantee one.

[1344] So pretty much guaranteed one.

[1345] But this is an insurance policy.

[1346] It doesn't mean I can't try a different way if I wanted to.

[1347] Yeah.

[1348] Well, if you stopped racing.

[1349] So, okay, back to the point.

[1350] Like, we just got way off track here.

[1351] But this is part of the story as to why I decided to change my diet and my workout and why I ended up writing a book was because I gained like, Four pounds.

[1352] Okay.

[1353] I'm just people, I know there's people, like, oh, who cares four pounds?

[1354] On my frame, five foot, who I'm small, little, and, you know, for any girl out there, you know, your genes only fit when you're exactly the size that you are, and then you gain a couple pounds and they don't anymore.

[1355] I was just uncomfortable.

[1356] It just wasn't, I just gained some weight.

[1357] And not anything really.

[1358] Well, it was, it was legit, like, I just gained some weight because of the hormones.

[1359] So it instantly also gave me some sympathy for people out there with whether it's dudes and testosterone.

[1360] or women with pregnancy or, you know, menopause or whatever it is that changes their hormones and sometimes you just gain weight.

[1361] I'm like, oh, my God, this is real.

[1362] This isn't just some excuse for getting older and being lax about your diet or your exercise.

[1363] It really happens.

[1364] And so anyway, so I decided to eat paleo for like a week, really.

[1365] I was going to do it for a week.

[1366] And I did it, and I never stopped.

[1367] So that was two years ago.

[1368] And then I also started doing two a day workouts because I wanted to change it up and sort of kick things up a notch.

[1369] But I also realized that I was out taking my dogs for walks.

[1370] And I was like, well, if I'm walking them, I might as well run and do a workout too.

[1371] So, you know, instead of a mile and a half of walking around the property, I would go for three.

[1372] So when you say you do two a day, it's like, how do you break it up?

[1373] They're usually a little shorter.

[1374] Like I would say somewhere between 20 to 40 minutes each.

[1375] and one of them will be I do upper body, lower body, and an ab day, and I just rotate through those, really.

[1376] I just, I keep rotating through those because, look, if I do it right, I'm so sore, I can't do upper body again for a few days.

[1377] So I just rotate through those, and then I supplement in.

[1378] If I have time, I do interval running.

[1379] We're all like sprint for 30 seconds, walk for 30 seconds, sprint for 30 seconds, and I'll do that for 20 minutes.

[1380] And do you have someone train you, or do you do everything yourself?

[1381] No, I do everything myself.

[1382] I love writing workouts.

[1383] I think it's the artistic side of me. I like the balance and the flow of, like, creating something that has fluidity and makes sense, and there's good transitions through movements.

[1384] So, I mean, I see your big rogue gym going in, so I'd be happy to program for you if you want me to.

[1385] Program for me. Do it.

[1386] Cross -fit style workouts.

[1387] Well, I do a lot.

[1388] Like I said, I don't do CrossFit, but most of the stuff I do is kettlebells, deadlifts, things on those lines.

[1389] I do that stuff, too.

[1390] A lot of chin -ups.

[1391] Yeah.

[1392] Too many.

[1393] I got a, what's called golfers, golfers elbow.

[1394] Tell me about it.

[1395] My right elbow is feeling so sore for like three days.

[1396] Is it right on?

[1397] Yeah.

[1398] It's like right on the top.

[1399] It's like right here.

[1400] It just, it's sore.

[1401] I got to give a shout out to Kelly Starrett.

[1402] He hooked me up with this crazy protocol for healing up my tendinitis.

[1403] And what is it?

[1404] Is it legal?

[1405] Just started.

[1406] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1407] Yeah, it's mostly, do you know who he is?

[1408] He's the guy wrote that book, becoming a supple leopard.

[1409] He's a real, wizard when it comes to like exercise physiology and understanding the body and his book's amazing I'm all about known improved modalities and yeah he's he gave me a bunch of different thing but also a tool to scrape the area which is going to be pretty intense is it like a blade like a like a metal okay I've had that done before yeah and scraping topical CBD oil um which is really good is that legal yes yes CBD is illegal cross the board non non psychoactive but the FDA is trying to stop that of course Just follow the money.

[1410] Yeah, those creeps.

[1411] Follow the money.

[1412] It's a good explanation for just about everything.

[1413] They're trying to put it in the same classification as heroin.

[1414] It's hilarious.

[1415] Yeah.

[1416] It's so stupid.

[1417] It's just 100 % pharmaceutical drug companies.

[1418] Man -made institutions of decision -making.

[1419] Yep.

[1420] Well, it's just creepy people with money that don't want to lose money to CBD oil because it's so much better for you and healthy and natural and does the exact same thing.

[1421] Imagine how much the drug companies would lose.

[1422] Yeah.

[1423] Or gain if they started selling it.

[1424] You fucks.

[1425] They want a monopoly.

[1426] it that's the problem they want patents they want to be able to patent things you know that's but that's uh like we were talking about before about the things that are in the amazon i mean there's there's so many different plants that can deal with so many different ailments that people have but like ayahuasca yeah that's one of them sure have you done it i haven't but it's kind of interesting yeah have you done any psychedelics no i've never done drugs ever no drugs no pot ever Never, nothing.

[1427] Oh, are you scared?

[1428] No, my dad scared the living daylights out of me when I was a kid, and he told me that if I ever, he's like, you get tested for drugs and you fail, you won't ever be a race car driver.

[1429] You told me that about drinking and driving, too.

[1430] If you lose your license, you won't be able to race.

[1431] And then, you know, what are you going to be when you grow up then?

[1432] You know, he threatened me with remedial jobs.

[1433] Jesus.

[1434] Yeah, so he scared the living daylights out of me. Truth be told, you can lose your license, still race.

[1435] also truth be told i didn't get drug tested until way later but we do get drug taste you're running a drug farm oh you sell wine you're running a drug farm well kind of that's a drug farm lady it's legal it's a hundred percent drug farm it's wonderful delicious tasting drugs it sure is you get fucked up on wine yeah what is that that's drugs and addicted to drinking alcoholism right i mean there's a lot of other things that you can do that are altering that aren't addictive right you're running a plant -based drug farm 100 % cash crops yeah that's what you're doing you're a drug dealer well let's just go all the way well if I was gonna do something what would be the first thing I would do pot oh for sure okay nice and light real slow don't take much what does that mean don't take much it just take a little bit you don't want to freak out like one of the major problems that people have when they first start smoking pot they'll take like two or three hits you can take one one like that's it put it down right Jamie yeah Jamie will tell you we'll hit walk away yeah don't fuck with edibles leave those alone those those you need to build up to those things those are those are completely different experience experienced users well it's not just that even experienced users they don't recognize the fact that it's a completely different psychoactive ingredient yeah when THC it's not THC no when it's processed by your liver produces 11 hydroxy metabolite which is four to five times more psychoactive than THC it's way more potent.

[1436] Yeah, which is why people freak out when they eat edibles and they just don't.

[1437] Don't eat the whole brownie.

[1438] No. Just a couple crumbs and then don't even think about having any more for at least two hours.

[1439] Let it settle in.

[1440] Give yourself time.

[1441] Don't freak out after 15, 20 minutes and be like it's not working.

[1442] Right.

[1443] Don't do that.

[1444] That's kind of what I do sometimes when I'm drinking.

[1445] I'm like, man, this is my third drink.

[1446] It just doesn't seem to be working.

[1447] And then I hit it harder and then I don't remember anything.

[1448] And I brown out or blackout or whatever.

[1449] Yeah, drugs.

[1450] You do drugs.

[1451] Yeah, actually, one of the first times I heard one of your podcasts, I think it was, it was about DMT.

[1452] Yeah.

[1453] That's the mother load.

[1454] DMT is the psychoactive ingredient that's in ayahuasca.

[1455] Right, right.

[1456] The most potent psychedelic.

[1457] Seems like a cleaner, cleaner way to do it as opposed to ayahuasca where you throw up and shit yourself.

[1458] Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely probably, it's also quicker, you know, like the worst, the longest, the long as it's going to take is like 15 or 20 minutes.

[1459] But there's some places that are doing it.

[1460] where they're doing it intravenously.

[1461] So those trips are apparently...

[1462] That was how they did it in...

[1463] There's a book called DMT the Spirit Molecule by this guy, Dr. Rick Strassman, who did all these studies out of the University of New Mexico.

[1464] And they were the first FDA -approved clinical studies.

[1465] You did it with a group of people?

[1466] Yeah, yeah.

[1467] I think I saw something about that.

[1468] It was amazing, but they were in a hospital and they did it interveniously.

[1469] Yeah, and they were gone -so for like 40 minutes, It's like, boom, off into the other dimension.

[1470] I was going to say, so other dimension, right?

[1471] The dream state, do you think it's like a dream state?

[1472] It's very similar because they believe that your brain during heavy REM sleep also produces DMT.

[1473] And they think that's...

[1474] Because we all have it.

[1475] We all have DMT.

[1476] Everybody has it.

[1477] Yeah.

[1478] Yeah, everybody has it.

[1479] It's naturally occurring in everyone.

[1480] Yes, it's produced by your liver, your lungs.

[1481] And now they know it's also produced at least in rats by your pineal gland, which is, literally your third eye.

[1482] It's, it actually, in certain reptiles, it actually has a retina and a lens.

[1483] Shut up.

[1484] Yeah, yeah, it is, it is an eye.

[1485] I'm always trying to decalcify my pineal gland.

[1486] Is that real?

[1487] I don't know.

[1488] You get that from them crystal people in Sedona?

[1489] Hell yeah, I do.

[1490] Yeah, they say it's like fluoride.

[1491] Fluoride's calcifying your pineal gland man. Like, okay, I did watch a cool thing.

[1492] How's it getting in there?

[1493] Yeah, yeah.

[1494] How's it getting through my mouth and through, are you sure?

[1495] Are you sure of fluoride?

[1496] everything you are what you eat yeah sort of but are you what you drink that too are you wine yes yes i get better with age duh yeah i don't know if you're really your pineal gland actually gets calcified by fluoride and drinking water that sounds like some hippie horse shit it does sound hippie horse shit i'd like to see some scientific proof but hey man with all the hippie shit there's not a lot of scientific proof with it no no there's not it's a sense of knowing that's what it comes down to is a sense of knowing like do you really feel like this is making sense to you do is it register are you like i don't know why i believe this but i just do i don't even know where it came from yeah i don't know about that i'd rather trust scientists i like science too my sister and i went and saw neildegras tyson in indianapolis over the winter over christmas he had like one of those star talk radio things it was called the uh an astrophysicist reads the newspaper oh yeah so he like pulled crazy you know articles and you know just laughed about them basically oh that's cool Pluto came up because he was part of the people part of the group that sort of said that Pluto wasn't a planet yes yeah people got very upset with him yeah he also loved to point out how there'd be something crazy and he'd be like let me point out this is in the science section of the newspaper like as if like how did this make it to the science section right he's going to come on here sometime in February and they're going to, he's going to talk to a guy who believes the earth is flat.

[1497] Oh, that guy.

[1498] He made fun of that guy too.

[1499] Yeah.

[1500] He's like, let me show you a reflection of what it looks like if the earth was flat.

[1501] You know, of course it's, you know, a shadow of a flat line.

[1502] It's like, of course, that's not true.

[1503] Well, of course it's not true, but there's a lot of young people out there today that believe the earth is flat.

[1504] Do you believe the earth is flat?

[1505] No, I most certainly do not.

[1506] But I think it's...

[1507] Why do they, I mean, do they not think we actually...

[1508] actually going to outer space and our own...

[1509] No, they think that that's fake too.

[1510] But I think it's just a matter of...

[1511] Do you think we landed on the moon?

[1512] If there is anything that I think is one of the more attractive conspiracy theories, it's the moon landing one.

[1513] Because the only time they did it was between 1969 and 1972.

[1514] They did seven missions.

[1515] Six were successful.

[1516] And that's the only time in human history that people have been more than, I think, 400 miles above the Earth surface.

[1517] everything else all the space shuttle missions all of the space station missions all that stuff is inside of 400 miles the moon is like 260 ,000 miles there and back and they've never even sent a chicken in the space and had it come back alive.

[1518] They never sent anything in the space other than people like into deep space past the Van Allen radiation belt past the magnetosphere.

[1519] I think most likely we went but if there's ever a conspiracy theory that's attractive to me, it's that one.

[1520] Because I just think it would be fascinating if during the Nixon administration, they really did fake it.

[1521] And there's a lot of weirdness to it.

[1522] Why would they fake it?

[1523] Well, first of all, to show military superiority to the Russians.

[1524] And again, I'm not saying, and I used to believe they did fake it.

[1525] I was heavily on the side that they faked it.

[1526] But then I realized, I don't know Jack's shit about astrophysics.

[1527] I don't know Jack's shit about rocket travel.

[1528] I mean, I'm just talking out of my ass.

[1529] So, like, me saying that they didn't go was literally an ignorant perspective.

[1530] Just a guess.

[1531] Well, it's just being attracted to conspiracy theories.

[1532] Yeah, which is fun.

[1533] That's the problem is that conspiracy theories are really fun.

[1534] Like, Bigfoot's really fun.

[1535] UFOs are really fun.

[1536] All that stuff is really fun.

[1537] You have to sift through a lot of stuff to get to the core because there's the arguments on both sides.

[1538] There is, but it's also you have to recognize in yourself that you do not.

[1539] want the official story to be true and I do not and almost every single thing that happens like you know moon landing or UFO landings or any crazy shit I always want the crazy shit to be real I always want the UFO thing to be a real thing they do have it do you believe in aliens yes I think it's more than likely that there's something out there I mean like to feel like that we're the only thing in the universe is a little ridiculous seems stupid seems pretty ignorant and arrogant.

[1540] But I don't think that it's what we think it is.

[1541] I think it's most likely far beyond the places that we can currently travel to.

[1542] And I think that by the time they get to a high level of sophistication, they're most likely not even organic anymore.

[1543] And I think that that's the future of the human race.

[1544] Levels of consciousness?

[1545] Well, I think maybe that, but I also think there's a real problem with the possibility of artificial intelligence, I think human beings are about to create life.

[1546] Whether we recognize it as life or not, what artificial life is going to be is life.

[1547] Artificial intelligence is going to have the ability to change itself, multiply what human beings have been able to do in terms of technological innovation by a rate of something insane like in two years, they'll be able to do 10 ,000 years of innovation in terms of like what we're capable of doing so i think that what we're looking at now is the the last days of biological life i think a hundred years from now 500 years from now whatever it is there won't be biological humans anymore i think they'll this will be an archaic outdated the world will change as we know it yeah and i think that kind of mean you know if i don't believe in everything the bible says but you know was that in the bible well so the apocalypse the world will change as we know it i think the apocalypse local the world will end as we know it right but i think the apocalypse like the stuff in the bible that's all local like if you if you lived where hurricane katrina hit you would think the apocalypse was there right if you were in you know anywhere where something really fucking crazy happened and you didn't have any contact with the outside world no cell phones no radio no tv didn't exist sure true if you were isolated yeah i think that's what all of our notions of the apocalypse are they're periodic natural disasters that are unbelievably devastating.

[1548] Like, they've proven that the entire human race was down to a few thousand people because of a super volcano around 70 ,000 years ago.

[1549] So I think there's been a series of those events throughout history where the human race is brought down to an almost unmanageable level and then we repopulated.

[1550] And I think that that's probably the origins of the apocalypse or asteroid impacts, which are very common.

[1551] They've happened all throughout history.

[1552] Do you think that AI is going to just eliminate biological humans?

[1553] I think it's entirely possible that we're going to give into it too, that we're going to take it.

[1554] We're going to, first of all, become symbiotic.

[1555] We're going to take something and put it inside of us.

[1556] It's going to enhance us, whether it's our ability to communicate, whether it's our ability to see.

[1557] We're going to start implanting chips into ourselves.

[1558] And then they're going to have improved body parts.

[1559] Like, say if you break your arm and they're like, look, Danica, we can fix your arm.

[1560] but it's going to take a year you have 17 broken bones or we can replace it with an arm that works better and it'll feel just like a regular arm and I'm going to bring in Mike and Mike has a fake arm and he's going to show you how it works and Mike's going to come in I'm so much happier with my arm than I was with my fake arm with my real arm it's the new drug pushers they're like no this lookout works and it's a free vacation to if you do this I watch some I heard some YouTube video of, like, it was someone who channels other...

[1561] Oh, one of those assholes.

[1562] Uh -huh.

[1563] I think it was channeling the Palladians.

[1564] Oh, yeah, probably totally legit.

[1565] Yeah, and she talked about...

[1566] It was talking about how, as a human race, we have to be careful.

[1567] We don't alter ourselves too much because then we won't exist as a human race because we won't be able to procreate.

[1568] And that is what keeps our race alive.

[1569] That's probably true.

[1570] I mean, if you think about where we're going to go, but also, doesn't it have to keep evolving?

[1571] I mean, if we got back, look, do you think like monkeys when they were living in trees, throwing shit at each other?

[1572] We're different than that now.

[1573] We've got to be chill.

[1574] Otherwise, we're going to stop being monkeys.

[1575] We won't be able to throw shit at each other and dodge jaguars.

[1576] I mean, I think people are afraid of change.

[1577] And I think the human race is afraid of change too, but we're by no means perfect.

[1578] That's why most people don't do things, right?

[1579] They are.

[1580] Everyone's afraid of change.

[1581] Taking a chance.

[1582] Having it be different.

[1583] Maybe it's worse.

[1584] Well, Dick, maybe it's better.

[1585] Well, that's like the hallmark of your whole life.

[1586] Look at you.

[1587] 100%.

[1588] I'm not afraid of change.

[1589] Yeah.

[1590] I'm not.

[1591] Okay.

[1592] So you get the robot arm.

[1593] I have a moment.

[1594] I'll take the arm.

[1595] I have a moment of, you know, fear of like, oh, shit.

[1596] And then there's the next moment is, well, maybe it's better than I could ever expect.

[1597] Or imagine.

[1598] They'll give you two options.

[1599] They give you one robot arm that you never have to work out.

[1600] It'll always be strong.

[1601] You can get that one.

[1602] Or you can get one that you constantly have to work out.

[1603] Oh, that's.

[1604] I would, I, I'd probably take the robot arm.

[1605] But which, which robot arm?

[1606] Would you take the one that you constantly have to work out?

[1607] No. Or would you take the one that's just perfect?

[1608] Yeah, I'd probably take the perfect one.

[1609] You'd never have to exercise.

[1610] Just, bam!

[1611] Just jacked all the time.

[1612] Yep.

[1613] If I wanted, I mean, working out, if I still needed to do that for like the, you know, feel good endorphin hormone sort of, you know, state, then I'd still do that.

[1614] You have a little pump right here by your brain, just, and you get that little endorphin rush.

[1615] Well, yeah.

[1616] And I would go do a lot more.

[1617] stuff like walking around in nature.

[1618] Hmm, that's a good answer.

[1619] Because that's, I mean, I really find enjoyment out of that.

[1620] I mean, I find enjoyment out of the intensity level of things and the confidence that I get or the, you know, being able to shift my mindset to this sort of like all go all in.

[1621] Not no pain, no gain.

[1622] That's so cheesy.

[1623] But like I can endure and the confidence that comes from enduring and pushing through.

[1624] I enjoy that.

[1625] I enjoy that development of my.

[1626] mind and my discipline and my confidence I do but I'm probably just shifting more into enjoying you know things that are a little more peaceful too so shifting more into enjoying nature yeah yeah well that would be the most fucked up thing if like you didn't enjoy nature anymore they started replacing body parts and they're like you didn't give a shit about the forest oh that would be sad yeah that would be sad I wouldn't take that body part then you probably wouldn't know until it's too late no until they replace it probably gonna be dead but before all this is real, so.

[1627] That's what I think those aliens are, when people see aliens, those gray aliens, the big eyes and shit.

[1628] I think that's just what we're going to become.

[1629] That's what I think.

[1630] I've been thinking that a lot.

[1631] I think it's natural.

[1632] If you look at what a monkey is, and then if we were at some point in time, like some ancient hominid, like Australia Pithicus or whatever, Cro -Magnon man, and then we moved on to become Homo sapien, if we keep going on in that direction, this is what we're going to look like.

[1633] We're going to look like little skinny things with big heads.

[1634] Lollipops.

[1635] Yeah.

[1636] That's what I look like when I have my helmet on.

[1637] When I'm in my race suit, people are like.

[1638] You look like an alien.

[1639] That's a good point, right?

[1640] Because I'm so small.

[1641] Because you have a regular size helmet.

[1642] That's right.

[1643] Yeah.

[1644] I didn't even think of that.

[1645] Your helmet is like, that would be like a big guy wearing an enormous helmet.

[1646] Yeah.

[1647] It'd be crazy.

[1648] Yeah.

[1649] Do you have a strong neck?

[1650] You must have a wicked neck.

[1651] I do.

[1652] Do you do exercises with it?

[1653] I don't need to.

[1654] You don't just carrying the helmet around all the time?

[1655] It's probably that And just looking up Looking up to my nine foot target for wall balls And like, oh my neck hurts Yeah Nah, you know You're not out of the car that long It might hurt a little bit When I get back in an Indy car again Because the G -forces are higher But you also lean your head against the headrest Usually the only thing that would make me hurt Might make my neck hurt a little bit As road courses at the beginning of the road Of Indycar season Going to test Because acceleration and deceleration There's nothing to hold you from like your neck going your head going forward i mean there is but not to the level that you drive that way um there's just a device that is in case you're in an accident but it still moves so you know holding holding your neck forward and backwards is a lot more sore than side to side just because you have a head rest so when you get out of a long race are you is your whole body tired yeah i mean in stock cars it's so it's really a lot about dehydration dehydration yeah i mean the car's like 130, 140 degrees in there.

[1656] Now, do you have a tube?

[1657] I do.

[1658] I have a camel back that goes through the front of my helmet.

[1659] A couple blowers, a back blower, a helmet blower, things that are cooler air, but I'm here to tell you it's still hot as hell in there.

[1660] I can imagine.

[1661] I mean, there's a fire in a gigantic iron block in front of you.

[1662] Yeah, when the water and oil temperature is 300 degrees, yeah.

[1663] It sort of, it's like a greenhouse in the car.

[1664] It runs right underneath you, too.

[1665] Do you think you're going to miss it?

[1666] That's a great question.

[1667] I was talking about this just the other day.

[1668] Like, am I going to miss the intensity?

[1669] Am I going to miss certain...

[1670] I mean, I don't know if I'll...

[1671] I think I will miss some of it a little bit.

[1672] Every now and again, I'm driving down the road, and I'm like, I'll probably miss it a little bit.

[1673] But, um, but, uh, yeah, again, I'm a decisive person, so I'm good.

[1674] I'm sure you're good.

[1675] I'm just wondering more if I'm going to miss the, the intensity level of the job and the highs being so high, but the low's being low.

[1676] I mean, that's how you get to highs, right, and the duality of the environment.

[1677] I'm wondering if I'll miss some of that.

[1678] And if whatever I do on the side will be enough.

[1679] What is the age that most people retire from racing?

[1680] I'm 35.

[1681] I'm a slightly young, I would say, early 40s.

[1682] After a while, their body just takes too much.

[1683] And you're just exhausted.

[1684] I mean, honestly, like, especially if it's NASCAR, you're just exhausted.

[1685] I mean, it's, I mean, that's my feeling anyway.

[1686] You know, you're gone for 40 weeks a year on the road in these, you know, really luxurious places of the world on the barbecue world tour, like grilling out of your bus and living out of a bus for most of your life.

[1687] And, you know, on the road, in and out of airplanes, hours of nothing to do on the weekends while you're, you know, sitting there.

[1688] So just kind of the grind.

[1689] So I think you kind of just get a little worn out.

[1690] Yeah, I could only imagine.

[1691] Oh, you know, I mean, even like you were talking about interviews and stuff like, yeah, I enjoy doing interviews that aren't based around how's your car this weekend.

[1692] You know, I mean, they're just so boring.

[1693] They really are.

[1694] So it's fun for me to talk about working out or cooking or wine, you know, all that stuff.

[1695] It's just interesting or aliens.

[1696] Yeah, I can only imagine the boring grind of the media tour that you may. must have to go through when you're racing all the time.

[1697] Yeah, I'll tell you what, Danica, you were moving quite fast out there today.

[1698] You have a little for a performance.

[1699] I was watching the old South Park episode.

[1700] They had a bunch of NASCAR drivers on South Park, and, you know, it was when Cartman was trying to be poor and stupid so he could race NASCAR.

[1701] And he was sponsored by Vagicil, and he ate a ton of Vagicil to make him a stupidest.

[1702] as he could and he realized that the more stupid he got, the more money he spent and more in debt he got and that's how you got poor.

[1703] So he just bought like jet skis and just I think he says at one point in time, Danica, you're not half as poor and stupid as I am.

[1704] Oh, that's right.

[1705] You were in it.

[1706] Yeah, I was in it.

[1707] Did you use your own voice?

[1708] No, no, no. South Park just does all their own stuff.

[1709] I was on The Simpsons that year too, and I did my voiceover for that, but for South Park, no. Did you love it?

[1710] I was awesome.

[1711] I mean, I don't care what They say, if you're on a show, it's flattering, right?

[1712] To make TV in a different capacity means you're being noticed.

[1713] Well, especially South Park.

[1714] I mean, that's, I think that's the funniest show that's ever existed.

[1715] Yeah.

[1716] Especially, like, all time.

[1717] If you look at all the episodes they've done, I mean, it doesn't even make sense how creative they are.

[1718] That's what I was thinking is how they're just insightful ahead of things a lot and definitely clever, like with their, the delivery of it.

[1719] Yeah, they're wizards.

[1720] Yeah Yeah It's completely bizarre What kind of car do you drive in regular life Please don't say like a Prius No That would be like if you're like Oh I just drive a Tesla The other day I was throwing some things Into the recycling bin And I'm like I'm just trying to do my part Because let's face it I burn fuel For a living Yeah right Think about it In terms of how much fossil fuel I wonder if you could say like a chart How much fossil fuel The average person burns Oh I would not be doing well on that That would not be I would not do well with the tree huggers or vegans of the world all the people loving animals like me I'm all those people I love the forest I try and eat vegetables most of the time things like that but yeah I also don't do my part when it comes to my job what kind of car do you drive so I've had cars for years through the manufacturer so this past year we were sponsored by Ford so I had a Ford Expedition EL I didn't know what EL meant It means extra long.

[1721] Oh.

[1722] So you got extra space in the back.

[1723] Yeah.

[1724] It was whole, yeah.

[1725] Why don't they hook you up with a Mustang Shelby?

[1726] Well, that's not very practical.

[1727] GT350s.

[1728] Yeah, I don't think.

[1729] We weren't even allowed to customize the wheels on that thing.

[1730] What?

[1731] Yeah, it was bare bones.

[1732] Because that was part of the contract.

[1733] It's just what you're allowed.

[1734] You get a car, but you can't get anything dressed up.

[1735] Why didn't they hook you up with a raptor?

[1736] Something fun.

[1737] I could have had a raptor, I guess.

[1738] Why didn't you get it?

[1739] Maybe, like, trucks aren't really me?

[1740] Whatever.

[1741] It's better than the EL.

[1742] Well, the EL's not bad.

[1743] But, yeah, so, and then I had a Tahoe when I drove for Chevy before that.

[1744] I would think that you would want something fast.

[1745] So I bought my first car in, what's the last car I bought?

[1746] Oh, yeah, a long time ago I bought a Mercedes, ML63 AMG.

[1747] It was like a SUV, souped up SUV.

[1748] That was a long time ago.

[1749] That was like 10 years ago.

[1750] I bought a Range Rover.

[1751] So since then, you've just been using manufacturer cars from the sponsors?

[1752] Because they're free dollars.

[1753] Yeah.

[1754] And they're not, you know, whatever.

[1755] It's free is free.

[1756] Is that like a part of the contract?

[1757] Like, that's the only car you're allowed to drive?

[1758] Probably not, but.

[1759] But that's the only car you drove.

[1760] You know, if you're going to drive to the racetrack, probably one drive in your company car.

[1761] Yeah, probably good move.

[1762] Yeah, but other drivers have other cars too.

[1763] but do you think that once you retire you will start like going god damn i think i need to get something i'm not a car girl what nope not a car girl i'm sorry disappointed you what does that mean how you how do you even say those words i know i'm not a car do you know who you are yes and i'm not a car patrick i know you're a race car driver woman i don't even know how many cylinders are in things i'm just i just drive them i'm just good at that you don't know how many cylinders i don't know i think we have eight That's so crazy I just lost so many fans How can you be such a good driver And not know anything about cars I don't need to That's a good way of looking at it I don't build it I don't I didn't have to go to school for engineering Remember the beginning of our talk Ten years old Ten years old I remember So yeah I just I can drive them You need to get yourself One those new Shelby GT 500s 700 horsepower Yeah I've seen one I've just announced it Oh a Shelby New one Oh, okay, not the GT, not the GT 500 or the...

[1764] Oh, you mean the Ford GT, yeah, no, that's pretty crazy too.

[1765] But Shelby just put out a new muscle.

[1766] But the problem with those four GTs, they're awesome, but the paddle shifts.

[1767] You want a manual?

[1768] Yeah.

[1769] You want a stick.

[1770] Yeah, I like sticks.

[1771] Yeah, it's more fun.

[1772] It is.

[1773] Yeah, it's just...

[1774] It's a more racy.

[1775] It's just more fun.

[1776] You know, I have a Bronco, a 1971 Bronco, and even driving that is, you know, it's a stick.

[1777] It's like, it's not that fast, but it's just...

[1778] It just feeds your testosterone.

[1779] Mechanical.

[1780] It's mechanical.

[1781] You feel it's analog.

[1782] I just like my car to be good off the line.

[1783] I bought a Lamborghini a long while back, and it didn't have a cup holder.

[1784] So I was like, well, this is stupid.

[1785] This is not practical.

[1786] So, yeah, so then I bought the Mercedes.

[1787] And that had a cup holder.

[1788] That had a couple cup holders, yep.

[1789] So it was good.

[1790] But then, you know, technology evolved, and it didn't have Bluetooth to play my music.

[1791] So I was like, well, I'm not going to have to get rid of this.

[1792] And that was when I started driving for Chevy.

[1793] And then I got a Tahoe and I liked that.

[1794] And then I got an expedition.

[1795] So you driving for Chevy?

[1796] They didn't give you a Corvette.

[1797] I didn't ask for one.

[1798] How could you not want one?

[1799] You driving for Chevy.

[1800] I needed a practical car.

[1801] If I wanted a Corvette, I could buy one.

[1802] Oh, okay.

[1803] I know you good.

[1804] But I would say, but like, come on.

[1805] Hook it up.

[1806] I'm not, yeah.

[1807] Come on, Chevy.

[1808] I'm not a car girl.

[1809] We went over there.

[1810] I don't understand this, though.

[1811] I keep wanting to catch you in that lie.

[1812] No, I don't care.

[1813] I just, I have, cars are like purses for me. I just need one nice one.

[1814] And when it wears out, I'll get a new one.

[1815] You don't like purses?

[1816] Not really.

[1817] I really care.

[1818] Oh, you're a weird girl.

[1819] Just need one that looks good and performs.

[1820] Just one.

[1821] That's it.

[1822] Yeah.

[1823] What about shoes?

[1824] No, I like shoes.

[1825] Oh, okay.

[1826] I have a lot of shoes.

[1827] Oh, there you go.

[1828] Yeah.

[1829] Okay, you're a girl.

[1830] I'm definitely a girl.

[1831] But not purses.

[1832] What about jewelry?

[1833] I curled my own hair today.

[1834] Wow, that's crazy.

[1835] How'd you do it?

[1836] Yeah.

[1837] You okay?

[1838] My shoulder hurts a little bit.

[1839] Harris, what is this stuff now?

[1840] I'm very much a girl.

[1841] I believe you.

[1842] That's what, if people ask me, what is it about you that people would be surprised?

[1843] And I tell them I'm much more girly away from the track than you'd think because I'm really aggressive at the track and I don't look very happy.

[1844] And away from the track, I try and be funny and I smile more and I'm much more relaxed.

[1845] Are you surprised that with all your success, and all the attention that you've gotten from your success as the only woman on your level in professional racing.

[1846] Are you surprised that more women aren't entering in that you haven't like sort of opened the door?

[1847] Or do you think that it's such a specialized and unique thing to do that it's just not something that a lot of women gravitate towards?

[1848] I used to say that for 100 men that came through if you found a good, it takes 100 to find a good one.

[1849] that comes pretty quickly, but to go through 100 women takes a lot longer because there are so few of them.

[1850] There are more coming through, but I just think that, you know, over time, it just takes a lot longer to find good ones.

[1851] But I don't know.

[1852] I think back to, this is my ego talking, I think back to a long time ago ago when Paul Newman was still alive and we were on a late night show together, probably Letterman.

[1853] and he was asked before I went on he was the first guest if there was going to be another driver another girl that comes through that compares to me and he said he didn't think so maybe there won't be Paul knew him knew his shit yeah he knew his shit maybe I mean you're unique I'm sure there will be someday but I meet a lot of women like you because of MMA there's those savages that enter into MMA the women that wind up fighting in MMA there's a lot of them and I'm kind of stunned at how many of them there are but when I say they're like you I mean they're bold powerful unique people that are they just take wild chances I mean the type of person that is like a Holly home or someone like that so I think the big difference lies and there are a lot of people that are strong aggressive confident you know assertive bold but to then be able to keep it together and up up above their shoulders um that's another that's the difference keep it together in the pressure of a race yeah and the pressure of whatever moment it's having whatever pressures are being put on you around an event or for one i mean those are that's really hard the right people around you being able to filter the shit and let in like keep the good um keep your own confidence up um that's that's hard that's the hardest part and then being able to flip that switch when you're performing to, of course, then to not have doubts, but more confidence.

[1854] I think everything that you said would be mirrored by what a woman who competes at the very highest levels of MMA would say.

[1855] I think they would find all those things to be factors.

[1856] You know, it's just, I'm really stunned that you literally are the only one.

[1857] I mean, that's an incredibly rare position.

[1858] Do you ever stop and think about, like, what if you weren't there?

[1859] It's not like, it's forbid.

[1860] for women.

[1861] I never thought about it like that.

[1862] I've mostly only thought about it from the perspective of, like, have I thought about what I've done in the sport?

[1863] Because it's stuff that people haven't done before.

[1864] And usually my answer is that someday I'll look back and, you know, be able to have a little bit more perspective on it.

[1865] But right now, I'm just kind of in the middle of it.

[1866] But, yeah, I've never thought about it like that.

[1867] Like, what if I was never there?

[1868] Yeah, I mean, you're the only one.

[1869] So if you were never there, it would just be constantly a boys club forever?

[1870] I mean, I'm just, I'm really fascinated by complete outliers.

[1871] You're a complete outlier in that regard.

[1872] I mean, there's not like 30 girls.

[1873] Oh, there's 500 men, but there's 30 girls.

[1874] No. How many men are NASCAR drivers?

[1875] Well, the field is 40.

[1876] Yeah, so 40 men, one chick.

[1877] That's crazy.

[1878] And then there's a bunch of people that are trying to do it.

[1879] Like, are there any women that are.

[1880] trying to get in there.

[1881] On the lower formulas, there's some that do some part -time stuff, and I'm trying to think if someone has done, like, a full season.

[1882] I don't know.

[1883] Back in IndyCar, there was some girls who did more.

[1884] There were, like, at one Indy 500, there was like five of us, but most of the time there's none or one.

[1885] Comes in waves.

[1886] Do you stop, I mean, do you think that when you stop and you look at, you look at, you look back in your career, you'll take into account and maybe have a more objective sense of what an impact that you've had.

[1887] Sure.

[1888] For women.

[1889] Yeah, of course.

[1890] But I need distance from it.

[1891] I need to gain perspective that way.

[1892] Does that make sense?

[1893] It does.

[1894] Sure, in your career, too.

[1895] Like, I mean, to be able to identify the things that you've done, the influence you've had over people with the conversations you've had, with the things in business you've done, I it's hard to see when you're in the middle of it.

[1896] Yeah, I don't look at that.

[1897] You don't want to look at that?

[1898] No. No. I'm not interested because I don't want to get distracted.

[1899] There you go.

[1900] That's why people don't in the moment because it doesn't matter.

[1901] Yeah, but what I'm doing, a lot of people are doing, what you're doing is very, it's just to be a woman that does the thing that many men think is probably one of the most manly things you could do.

[1902] Other than fighting and maybe football, it's like race car driver, like ask a little boy.

[1903] What do you want to be when you grow up, Billy?

[1904] I want to be a race car driver.

[1905] I mean, that's just.

[1906] Lightning me, queen.

[1907] I mean, it's like a natural thing for men to gravitate towards it.

[1908] Dad always said he was just like, gosh, I had cursed with three girls in the house because my mom and then me and my sister.

[1909] And I'm like, Dad, what more did you want?

[1910] Like, what more did you want if you had a boy as a son?

[1911] Like, what was he going to do that's cooler than what I'm doing?

[1912] He'd be out there banging chicks.

[1913] That's what he's missing.

[1914] You think my dad would think that was cool for him?

[1915] If his son was banging chicks I would think probably That's my boy Instead he scared shitless for me Yeah that's got to be I think still in my adult life It's like Well if they had the courage To let you go to England By yourself when you were 16 I mean that and race over there On another continent All the way across an ocean So if you didn't get hurt To get to you would take forever Yeah Bold old.

[1916] What is the worst crash you've ever been in?

[1917] My first crash in IndyCarce, my very first race.

[1918] Whoa.

[1919] Kind of paralleled getting in a go -car for the first time having a big crash.

[1920] But yeah, it was Homestead, Miami, and there was a big accident, and I was running low, and someone was sliding down the track that had damage, and they clipped my right rear and shot me up into the wall head first, and slid down the track, and I don't remember that part.

[1921] I don't remember getting out.

[1922] I don't remember walking to the ambulance, but there's footage of all of it.

[1923] And I walked the wrong way away from the ambulance.

[1924] I was walking the opposite direction.

[1925] And then I was kind of like stumbling around.

[1926] And then I got back to the medical truck.

[1927] And then I got in.

[1928] And apparently I was very repetitive on the way to the hospital.

[1929] And I kept asking them, did it look bad?

[1930] And they were like, you asked us that a few times, honey.

[1931] And I'm like, oh, I'll just stop.

[1932] Oh, yeah.

[1933] Yeah, that's a severe concussion.

[1934] One of the things that happens is people ask the same questions over and over again.

[1935] Well, then I've had one.

[1936] Let's hope I don't have CTE.

[1937] I'm sure you probably do.

[1938] I probably do.

[1939] A little bit.

[1940] Yeah.

[1941] It's a little bit.

[1942] Just a dabble.

[1943] Touch.

[1944] It doesn't.

[1945] It makes you more risky.

[1946] It does it?

[1947] It does.

[1948] I might get crazy.

[1949] That's one of the things it does.

[1950] It makes people more impulsive.

[1951] Do UFC people get?

[1952] Oh, yeah.

[1953] 100%.

[1954] Did you see that video?

[1955] Are they doing studies in UFC like they did in the NFL with, doing tests after they've passed away to know if they had CTE and that would NFL had they like there was a study that came out last year it was like almost all but one out of a hundred and some had CTE yeah it was um I forget the numbers but yeah there was only like one or two people that didn't have it right yeah no the UFC hasn't done that the UFC hasn't been around as long as the NFL obviously so we we're not dealing with the same right data pool but I'm sure when people do pass away, we're going to find it.

[1956] It's just varying levels.

[1957] I've heard they actually have a test now for CTE.

[1958] I was talking to a trauma surgeon that said that there's...

[1959] For one you're alive.

[1960] Yeah.

[1961] Yeah.

[1962] It's a new thing.

[1963] Yeah.

[1964] What would you do if you had it?

[1965] Make excuses.

[1966] I just go extra crazy.

[1967] Yeah.

[1968] I'd be like, well, that's why I'm gambling naked.

[1969] Whoa!

[1970] Bottle whiskey in each arm.

[1971] Who her?

[1972] I don't know who she is.

[1973] I got hit in the head.

[1974] I got hit in the head.

[1975] It didn't even my fault.

[1976] Chug, chug, chug, chug, pals.

[1977] So insightful this question.

[1978] Did you see the video that just came out from a couple of days ago from the guy that hit the off ramp and went flying through the air and landed in a house in the second floor of a house, his cars poking out the side?

[1979] No, but he couldn't do it again if he had to, I'm sure.

[1980] No, no, it's just total random crazy luck.

[1981] Yeah.

[1982] But it is hilarious.

[1983] I mean, it is, yeah.

[1984] And see if you, once you find it, then go to Chris DeLea's Instagram because DeLea had a hilarious.

[1985] meme that he created about it but this car hit this hit like a barrier hit one of those cement barriers and literally got launched into the air and stuck into the second floor of a building.

[1986] Everybody make it?

[1987] I don't know.

[1988] I don't know.

[1989] What country was this in?

[1990] America.

[1991] America?

[1992] America.

[1993] Two people escaped the injuries.

[1994] They're serious injuries.

[1995] How the fuck did, I mean I wonder how they got out of the car.

[1996] I mean it's the way it's hanging out of the building.

[1997] Like just hopefully it's front wheel drive and they could keep accelerating to get a little further in so they could get out of the car.

[1998] That's spoken like a true race car driver.

[1999] You're thinking about it that way.

[2000] Yeah, here it is.

[2001] Here's the video footage.

[2002] So you can see it.

[2003] And there's the car.

[2004] Watch this.

[2005] It hits the left.

[2006] See, this is that.

[2007] It's hard to tell there, but they literally went across traffic.

[2008] They're speeding.

[2009] You can see it again.

[2010] The guy goes across traffic, flies into the air.

[2011] But see, go to Chris Delia's page, his Instagram page, and find the meme because then you can see that and what he let's get this guys oh that's christ delis there he says come her come over me i can't tonight her my parents are on the first floor and i'm on the second floor and i have bitcoins me that's epic i mean that fucking car is stuck inside that building i mean you wouldn't believe that that was real um if you didn't see it there he might need that dentist office that he just parked himself at after that yeah here's the question what do you do if you're in the car like it gets stuck there do you even climb out well you're probably drunk you got to be drunk right i mean there's nobody or something so you just you open the door and you uh wait you uh you take on the sprained ankle and you jump and you Jesus when then it lands on your fucking head the thing falls out of the building no no no it's supposed to say the right thing here you call the cops you are honest you well there's a video you get the bitcoins and then you go Oh, my God, that's funny.

[2012] Who put up the video?

[2013] Where's the video from?

[2014] Some dude's name.

[2015] What is his name?

[2016] Kenny Holmes.

[2017] It's Kay Holmes Live.

[2018] He's the guy who, oh, he's from NBCLA, I guess.

[2019] Minor injuries.

[2020] That's crazy.

[2021] Oh, Santa Ana.

[2022] Santa Ana people are out of their.

[2023] Fuck, come on.

[2024] That's where Eddie Bravo's from.

[2025] Santa Ana people.

[2026] Boom, look at that car flying through the air.

[2027] It's just the fact that it's stuck into the building that's just so ridiculous.

[2028] It's probably for a movie.

[2029] Now, when you drive in regular life, are you a leadfoot?

[2030] I'm a very aggressive driver.

[2031] I knew it.

[2032] Yes, I am.

[2033] I have a large comfort zone, I say.

[2034] People piss me off a lot.

[2035] They are horrible drivers, and I'm very, yeah, the only way I can make sure that I don't get a speeding ticket is to not drive.

[2036] How many speeding tickets have you gotten?

[2037] Oh, I've been pulled over at least 20 times, for sure.

[2038] I got pulled over three times and three days at one point.

[2039] When I had my Mustang Cobra, my first ever car.

[2040] Oh.

[2041] Jesus see that's why I'm surprised you don't have a fast car oh I always make sure it's a good car like that fast car but I mean like today like right now like it like when you're driving around pulling up no no no I mean your everyday life yeah well I'm driving rentals because I don't live here I mean not I mean here I mean in real life oh in real life oh yeah like where's my sports car yeah well I you know 40 weeks a year I do that so you just I need a people mover I got two dogs right so you get enough of it all my bags i feel like i'm trying to sell you a car what car should i buy i would say something american something would you do you like american -made cars yeah i like i tend to i don't care if they are aren't really well i have a Porsche i like i like uh german cars too they're more reliable what i like about american cars is i like the sound i like the way they i just there's a rumble throatiness to it there's a something to it you like do you like so you like to make noise on the road i'm a I'm a loud person.

[2042] What?

[2043] Yeah.

[2044] I have a 65 Corvette with straight pipes, those side pipes.

[2045] Yeah.

[2046] Super loud.

[2047] I kind of know what that is.

[2048] Yeah.

[2049] I can picture it kind of.

[2050] You're a race car driver.

[2051] But it's a stick.

[2052] I know.

[2053] That's what's important.

[2054] Mm -hmm.

[2055] I don't, I can't.

[2056] You don't care.

[2057] But I would feel like for someone like you, once you transition away from racing, then it's going to be more important to you because you're going to, like, miss the capabilities of those things.

[2058] That might be true.

[2059] Yeah.

[2060] That might be true.

[2061] I might have to, uh, Oh, there's my car.

[2062] Oh, that is a good -looking car.

[2063] Sweet car.

[2064] Jay Leno, of course.

[2065] Of course, he loves cars.

[2066] Yeah, he does.

[2067] I'm not, and I also don't really like old cars.

[2068] So that looks pretty good.

[2069] It's pretty fancy -looking, but, yeah, I'm a new car person.

[2070] I like new, modern sports cars.

[2071] I do as well, but that car is a 65 on the outside, but all the underpinnings are completely modern.

[2072] It has an LS -1 supercharged engine, so it has a modern Corvette engine.

[2073] It's got modern brakes, modern suspension.

[2074] You don't know what any of that stuff means, do you?

[2075] Nope.

[2076] That's crazy.

[2077] I know that my very first car of my Mustang Cobra, I drove it so hard that I needed, in 8 ,000 miles, I was on my third set of brakes.

[2078] We put stiffer sway bars in it so that it would handle better.

[2079] It was, yeah, I went through three sets.

[2080] Yeah, I was on my third set of brakes in 8 ,000 miles.

[2081] And now, you say Mustang Cobra, like, what year was this?

[2082] Oh, this is when I first, this is my first ever car, so I was 16, so I think it was a, um, uh, 97.

[2083] It was, yeah, it was, I'm not saying they're not cool, but it was back when they were more cool, when, you know, they were a lot less common.

[2084] Yeah, they were okay back then.

[2085] It's kind of the back end of the cobra cool days.

[2086] Yeah, no, the 97s were okay.

[2087] They were all right.

[2088] Like, around the 80s is when, uh, they came out with the 5 .0 and then, then, then, you know, Like, Mustangs had a little bit more power again.

[2089] So what's your dream car then?

[2090] That Corvette.

[2091] That's my favorite car.

[2092] Oh, now what then?

[2093] No, I don't know.

[2094] Drive that around.

[2095] Do you drive it much?

[2096] All the time.

[2097] Oh, okay.

[2098] Well, it doesn't really rain in California, so I guess you can.

[2099] Well, it has a top.

[2100] Do you drive it in the rain?

[2101] I have.

[2102] Oh, good for you.

[2103] Yeah.

[2104] Good for you.

[2105] It's just a car.

[2106] Yeah.

[2107] I mean, I'm not afraid of it getting wet.

[2108] The only problem is it's slippery.

[2109] You know, it doesn't have any traction control or any of that.

[2110] It's just all engine power and torque.

[2111] and yeah, but it's fun.

[2112] Yeah, I remember driving a Camaro around in the rain and it was handled like crap.

[2113] You should get one of the new ones.

[2114] Camaro Z -L -1, they have a new one, 650 horsepower.

[2115] It's fucking ridiculous.

[2116] I mean, nobody even barely uses the full speed of...

[2117] What we got here?

[2118] I don't know, what am I?

[2119] Oh, so I was actually going to tell you about this.

[2120] This is, I did a Rod and Track cover article where I test drove, it was a Porsche, a Corvette, I think it was a viper of some sort, a viper.

[2121] And then there was a Lamborghini, Mercilago.

[2122] And I'll, I mean, my experience was the, the Porsche was loose, which is this one.

[2123] The corvette was tight, which meant it was the most comfortable and stable to drive.

[2124] The, I think it was a viper.

[2125] The viper was just light on its feet kind of.

[2126] It just didn't really, it wasn't very stuck.

[2127] and it was just kind of clunky.

[2128] That looks like it's about seven or eight years old, is that right?

[2129] Oh, at least, yeah.

[2130] Yeah, maybe 10.

[2131] And then the Lamborghini was also light.

[2132] I mean, it just went so fast, but it's pretty well balanced, but probably a little on the loose side, so.

[2133] You know, they stopped making vipers, but I know the car for you.

[2134] There's a car that's for sale right now that I saw this morning.

[2135] No, no, no. I'm trying to sell your car this whole.

[2136] I know.

[2137] No, Joppo Link had a rare, one of the, this one dealership in two, 2017 in the country bought up like 90 % of the vipers and they ordered them in a bunch of crazy paint schemes and they ordered this hot pink viper shut up you want me to drive a pink car you gotta see it i'd drive it it's so fucking badass i'd drive it so fucking badass i'd drive it see i think it's cooler if a dude would drive a pink car and i would drive like some like stainless steel silver you know i would drive it and then i'd get a rainbow license plate so people would just assume i'm gay just there's no way around it got a rainbow plate you got a pink car just light it all yeah found it isn't it it's shit it was uh on my google news feed this morning i looked at that i was like if i was a chick that'd be my fucking car but it's like crazy metallic hot pink viper it's not like the mary k car no that's not it that's old that shit's old that's red yeah that's red i like red it's uh 2017 it might not even be Jopelink.

[2138] I might have, I think that was what I was reading.

[2139] Well, I'm not going to drive it.

[2140] Okay.

[2141] No. You don't have to pull it up.

[2142] That's a good thought, but, um.

[2143] You would rather have black, let me guess.

[2144] Black.

[2145] Yeah.

[2146] I like black.

[2147] I knew it.

[2148] Yeah.

[2149] Tinted windows.

[2150] Black, black, black.

[2151] Black wheels, black.

[2152] Whoa.

[2153] Darkness.

[2154] Yeah.

[2155] Like a Darth Vader type thing.

[2156] Yeah.

[2157] Whoa.

[2158] So badass.

[2159] More, more masculine than feminine.

[2160] Yeah.

[2161] Yeah.

[2162] Yeah.

[2163] I'm trying to figure out what kind of, oh, there it is.

[2164] That's not it.

[2165] But that's an old one.

[2166] too.

[2167] That's terrible.

[2168] But it's all right.

[2169] No worries.

[2170] That was gross.

[2171] That one looks gross.

[2172] Okay.

[2173] The other one didn't look so gross.

[2174] It's more of a darker pink.

[2175] You don't have to find it.

[2176] She's going to hate it no matter what.

[2177] She wants Darth Vader.

[2178] Pink Corvette's that Angeline drives around town.

[2179] I saw her the other day.

[2180] I saw her driving that.

[2181] Do you know who Angeline is?

[2182] No. Angeline is a woman who when I moved to California in the 90s, she used to have these billboards all around California of what it's her oh her like in her bikini uh like what's she promoting her it would just say her name and her phone number and that's see those those billboards oh shoot well hey yeah that's her and so these and i'd be like who the fuck is angeline and everybody would be like oh she's like this local celebrity and so she apparently is just a wealthy lady who uh all of her time here has done that just got these big billboards.

[2183] She's doing a split on top of a Corvette.

[2184] Is that a good thing?

[2185] For her, maybe.

[2186] Is it working?

[2187] She kept doing it, so she still does it, right?

[2188] Does she still have a billboard?

[2189] Not a billboard, but she has at least three different pink corvettes now.

[2190] I've seen her really recently in the pink Corvette.

[2191] Oh, my God.

[2192] Okay, not me. Not you.

[2193] Not you.

[2194] No, I'm more like, I'm more of your.

[2195] So, actually, when I got the Lamborghini and I had to go pick my sister up from the airport.

[2196] Okay, there's nowhere to put your bags.

[2197] It's like a briefcase for a, you know, trunk.

[2198] And it's in the front.

[2199] So that was kind of silly.

[2200] And then I realized that people normally get these cars so they can just, like, kind of take it out to dinner.

[2201] I don't want to be looked at.

[2202] So I'm not going to, I'm more likely to take it to go get groceries than I am to go to dinner.

[2203] So I realized it was pretty pointless for me. Yeah, that's not the car for you.

[2204] And if I want performance, I go do my job.

[2205] For now.

[2206] For now.

[2207] But when it's over, that's what I'm trying to keep you saying.

[2208] You're looking forward.

[2209] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2210] I'm looking forward.

[2211] After these next two races.

[2212] We'll have to visit again in a year from now and have to figure it all out.

[2213] I'll tell you you're right probably.

[2214] Well, in a year from now, then the new Corvette ZR1 will be available.

[2215] 750 horsepower stupid you're never going to use it you're never going to use it I mean you're never going to use it you might use a zero sixty you've got 150 speeding tickets so you're talking to you're negative to use it it's true nobody got a speeding ticket for getting the speed limit too quickly though that's true yeah well they probably would pull you over anyway actually I got a funny story about when I got pulled over when I was 16 with my Mustang cobra I was picking my girlfriend up and pulling out of her her off of her street onto the main street and it was wet out.

[2216] And so I kind of got it going and kicked it sideways a little bit and looked at my rear view mirror at the stoplight and there's a cop sitting there.

[2217] Well, he comes for me. So I turn on the first road I can find.

[2218] So I make a left, drive down the road.

[2219] It's a freaking dead end.

[2220] So I pull into a driveway and we slouch down real low and the cop kind of drives around and all of a sudden somebody comes out from the house and they're like, can I help you?

[2221] And I'm like, oh, what road is this out here?

[2222] I mean, mind you, it's the road I live off of.

[2223] I'm like, oh, what road is this out here so anyway so we're like oh okay okay thank you sure and so we get back in the car and the cop's gone so we back out and head back down the road again trying to get further away from the stoplight make a left i look over in the parking lot across the street the great school parking lot cops sitting there so i make the first right i can then so i turn right into a neighborhood and i'm driving along and he finally catches me and i think i cried to help my situation did he turn his lights on, so you were running from him.

[2224] Mm -hmm.

[2225] Kind of.

[2226] Mm -hmm.

[2227] This guy sounds like a shitty driver.

[2228] Like a shitty cop.

[2229] But I think I got in trouble for being sideways, not for speeding.

[2230] Yeah, you should say, it's my boyfriend's car.

[2231] I don't even know how to drive this thing.

[2232] That would have been actually a clever approach.

[2233] Yeah.

[2234] Yeah.

[2235] Yeah, just say, I don't know what happened.

[2236] I hit the gas and it went sideways.

[2237] That was part of my getting pulled over three times in three days episodes.

[2238] Oh.

[2239] That was number three, I think.

[2240] I cried.

[2241] Maybe it was number two.

[2242] So is that why you were running from the cops?

[2243] I just can't keep doing this.

[2244] I was just trying to see if I could get away.

[2245] Trying to just get away.

[2246] Well, Danica, I think I've kept you long enough.

[2247] It was really wonderful to talk to.

[2248] I really appreciate it.

[2249] It was really fun.

[2250] I wish you all the best of luck with your wine and your clothes and your last two races.

[2251] And it was a pleasure.

[2252] Thank you.

[2253] So nice to talk to you.

[2254] Let's check back in about the whole car situation.

[2255] Yes, and next year.

[2256] You're going to want to get something crazy.

[2257] I guarantee.

[2258] Once you're done.

[2259] When I tell you, I'm missing the action, I'll let you just call the car I should buy.

[2260] Sounds like a plan.

[2261] Danica Patrick, ladies and gentlemen.

[2262] That's fun.