MFM Minisode 246

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Okay, dogs.

[2] Don't bug me, Frank.

[3] And welcome to my favorite murder.

[4] The minisone.

[5] That's right.

[6] I seriously had to think about it.

[7] That's okay.

[8] Twice.

[9] This is what's happening, right?

[10] It's Sunday.

[11] I'm lazy with my brain.

[12] It's my fun day.

[13] That's right.

[14] I don't have to run day.

[15] That's right.

[16] Oh, my God.

[17] I want to go first?

[18] I want me to go first.

[19] I'll go first.

[20] Sure.

[21] The subject line of this email is hometown, badass mom, murder, all the things.

[22] K &G, I'm one of the people who has written to you all a million times.

[23] Everything from my badass grandparents, the time I accidentally almost signed up for Scientology, my future mother -in -law, almost encountering the Yorkshire Ripper, and more.

[24] But the best things I've ever sent you are about my mom.

[25] As someone who says she is not into murder, my mother has so many direct connections to weird -ass shit.

[26] A childhood friend who murdered her parents, a childhood friend who was murdered, she attended Camp Scott where the Girl Scouts were murdered.

[27] You covered that story.

[28] I did.

[29] Wow.

[30] She also has a story about sitting in one of the hospital rooms that was memorialized to those murdered Girl Scouts while I was having surgery.

[31] But here's my favorite Billy.

[32] That's my mom's story.

[33] My mom took a sick day, which is insanely out of character, so she must have felt like absolutely.

[34] shit.

[35] She shipped my siblings and I off to school and settled down to a nap to watch daytime TV and all the good sick day stuff.

[36] After a while, she heard our dog barking and other noises coming from the kitchen.

[37] She figured it was nothing but decided to go check.

[38] Lo and behold, a random absolute stranger is standing in our kitchen.

[39] My mom says she didn't panic.

[40] She wasn't even scared.

[41] She was just so pissed this guy was pulling this crap when she didn't feel good.

[42] Before he could even talk.

[43] She walked right past him to our home phone that was hanging on the other side of the kitchen.

[44] And she said and I quote, I'm calling the police and if you are still hereafter, I'm going to kick your ass even if I'm sick.

[45] Needless to say, that fucker immediately saw himself out back out of the house.

[46] Don't mess with a sick mama.

[47] Did I mention that she's actually very classy and beautiful?

[48] She'd definitely want me to mention that.

[49] Warm Warm regards from Oklahoma, Gentry.

[50] oh gentry and billy thanks for writing in about your mom that's just the idea of walking past the intruder yes excuse me real quick behind you i'm gonna grab the phone that's such i've had it mom actually you know what i don't even give a shit that's such a mom like this this will not stand right now and i'm not yeah she momed a burglar out of the house pretty badass billy also her name is billy and then her her child's name is Gentry.

[51] There's a lot of, like, strong country music.

[52] Wow.

[53] Female power vibes happening.

[54] Good call.

[55] In that family.

[56] Gentry's a rat name.

[57] Mm -hmm.

[58] Okay.

[59] This is called it.

[60] It wasn't a possum or a vampire.

[61] Hey there, true crime queens.

[62] Love you and your staff and your pets.

[63] Oh.

[64] Oh, you do too.

[65] Off the top.

[66] I do, too.

[67] Oh, my God.

[68] I do too.

[69] I love those people, too.

[70] Those are all the things I love.

[71] At the top, I just wanted to tell you, I'm proud of you for taking a break.

[72] Thanks for coming back.

[73] Myly face.

[74] Nice.

[75] A few years ago, I was home alone with my two kiddos.

[76] This one's pretty intense, by the way.

[77] Home alone with my two kiddos, age four and four months.

[78] My husband is at work.

[79] He works in 24 -hour shifts.

[80] Turns out traumatic incidents only happened during said shifts.

[81] It was 11 .56 p .m. when I heard a crash outside my house.

[82] We live in an old house, mid -remodel, so there was a pile of tools and debris in the backyard.

[83] Because I was instilled with anxiety from a young age, I started to call my husband to stay on the phone with me while I made sure it was just a raccoon or possum crawling through our own personal garbage dump.

[84] Unfortunately, it wasn't a possum.

[85] I heard someone jiggling our locked door handle and then start to hit the back door.

[86] I grabbed a bat and dialed 911 as I heard two or three heavy kicks and our back.

[87] door fly open.

[88] Since I was in my room doing my best to block my baby from whatever was coming my way, I yelled for the intruder to leave our home, sprinkled with loud, colorful language.

[89] Something along the lines of, get the fuck out of my house, you are not welcome here, as if it was a vampire and not just a regular old piece of shit, mortal man. You are not welcome here.

[90] You're not allowed to cross my door.

[91] Do not cross.

[92] Oh, shit.

[93] I know.

[94] He came up the steps from our landing and stood in my hallway.

[95] He was staring at me and started yelling that he knew I, quote, had her as he got closer and closer.

[96] He was high and not making a lot of sense.

[97] We found out later that he thought I had taken and or was hiding his girlfriend.

[98] My four -year -old daughter ran out of her room and was standing face to face with this strange man in our home.

[99] I couldn't tell you what I said to her or if I just looked at her, but she bolted behind me to my bed and covered herself and her little brother with my comforter.

[100] Between that and my loud demands to leave, my infant was now wailing.

[101] Later, the daughter told me she just wanted to protect her little brother by covering him up.

[102] Luckily, we had just installed our new bedroom door.

[103] Prior to this, we had been hanging a sheet in the doorframe due to the remodel.

[104] Luckily, my detail -oriented, high -end loving, Torres -ass husband was insistent on solid core doors.

[105] That's, yes.

[106] You're a Taurus and that's something you...

[107] You know the one thing I care about more than pets and our staff are solid core doors.

[108] That's right, because you're a Taurus.

[109] It's very important to us as the bulls of the horoscope.

[110] I shut us in and locked the door.

[111] This man took our ladder we had been using in the hallway and started trying to bang down my bedroom door.

[112] I was holding it shut with my body weight.

[113] My daughter watched as the top gave a little with every hit.

[114] Jesus.

[115] I remember telling the dispatcher, I am a living my nightmare.

[116] I remember my daughter saying, please don't let us get dead, Mama.

[117] I remember my freshly postpartum pelvic floor, piecing out during my struggle to keep the door closed and peeing my pants.

[118] He must have seen lights or heard me describe him in detail to dispatch because he ran.

[119] Dispatch called my husband.

[120] The police came, took prints in our statement.

[121] They never tracked down the intruder, even though we knew his name due to his prince.

[122] Skip ahead four months during, early fall, I'm driving to a coffee shop and who should walk in front of me, but home intruder guy himself.

[123] Oh my God.

[124] I know.

[125] I followed him from a distance and called the police.

[126] He was arrested.

[127] When it came to the point of charging him for a variety of reasons, we requested he get mandatory drug alcohol treatment in lieu of any jail time, which we hoped would be a more productive use of time and resources.

[128] But who knows?

[129] Incredibly generous.

[130] I know.

[131] Yes.

[132] Well, and also definitely logically more effective than sitting in jail.

[133] Totally.

[134] And that's that.

[135] My daughter and I both went to therapy and we let her talk about it when she needs to.

[136] We're doing better now.

[137] My advice would be keep some kind of item that could be used as a weapon near your bed.

[138] Always have your phone charged and near you.

[139] Never lose postpartum weight so that you're heavy enough to keep your door closed.

[140] But if you must, at least pee on the hardwood floor as a secondary line of defense.

[141] So lighthearted about this very dramatic thing.

[142] Yeah.

[143] Pretty incredible.

[144] Thanks so much, ladies.

[145] Even if it doesn't make it on the show, thanks for reading.

[146] I actually found your show after this event, and it made me feel so much better.

[147] Like I wasn't alone for being an anxiety -ridden basket case, keeping it anonymous heart.

[148] Wow.

[149] I know.

[150] So intense.

[151] Yeah.

[152] That's great.

[153] Both our story is just like you never expect an intruder to come in.

[154] I mean, I have a knife in my nightstand and a baseball bat, but, you know, things happen so quickly sometimes you're not going to be prepared it's just exactly it's like the that's you you don't know what your nervous system is going to do and and it sounds it just sounds like our anonymous friend kicked ass protected her children did everything she needed to do and got to the great freedom and joy of peeing on the floor truly one of everyone try it someday in your life if you have an opportunity so empowering to wet yourself okay your turn Mm -hmm.

[155] Okay.

[156] This is a lighthearted St. Cole story for Karen.

[157] Yay.

[158] Woo!

[159] Hi, ladies.

[160] I've been sitting on this story for a while because, you know, anxiety.

[161] But I feel like it's finally time to write in.

[162] I'm from Meridian, Mississippi, which I'm assuming is pronounced Meridian.

[163] But of course, could also be pronounced Meridian.

[164] Probably.

[165] And then everyone can, you know, tweet us about it.

[166] Let us know.

[167] But anyway, I'm going to go with I'm for Meridian, Mississippi.

[168] and when news broke in 2015 that we were getting an IHop, Meridianites literally lost their minds.

[169] I mean, fair enough, because IHop is amazing.

[170] Moons over my hammy.

[171] However, that is so funny.

[172] Girl, that's Denny's.

[173] Come on.

[174] This is IHop.

[175] What?

[176] Say Rudy -Tudy -Tudy Fresh and Fuddy.

[177] No, I don't care.

[178] Take two.

[179] Take two.

[180] You can do it.

[181] I'm hungry.

[182] It's just you want private.

[183] yeah okay um construction began and the restaurant opened november of 2015 because i'm fucking i already just love this story so much one of my best friends was eating in the restaurant the first night it was open and said that after a series of loud booming an employee ran over to the window and started yelling about an earthquake everyone went into a panic and quote unquote ran for their lives outside the building once outside everyone saw a giant sinkhole in the parking lot that swallowed up at least a dozen cars.

[184] Holy shit.

[185] Huh?

[186] Yeah, a dozen.

[187] Not just one.

[188] Like, oh, it's a parking lot's worth of sinkhole.

[189] That's crazy.

[190] One of which being my friend's mothers.

[191] Janet, the hole was 35 feet wide, 375 feet long, and 30 feet.

[192] Holy shit.

[193] Miraculously, no one was killed or injured.

[194] Thank God.

[195] Upon further inspection, it was determined that a drainage, pipe collapsed and caused the parking lot to cave in, which caused $3 .5 million in damage.

[196] Oh, I hop.

[197] I mean.

[198] A lot of pancakes.

[199] My friend was interviewed by countless news stations and was featured in worldwide news regarding the parking lot collapse.

[200] He proceeded to give the most sarcastic interview I've ever seen.

[201] And he later told me that he was more concerned about his chicken and waffles sitting in the restaurant uneaten rather than his mother's armada sitting at the bottom of the the single.

[202] I'm starving and I agree with everything he's the Armada's gone down.

[203] You better care about the Armada.

[204] In the off chance that you read this email, I would like to acknowledge my best friend, Kelly, for making me a murderino.

[205] We love you ladies and we're so thankful for everything y 'all do.

[206] Thanks for your hard work and bringing so much joy into my life.

[207] SSDGM, Taylor.

[208] Taylor, great email.

[209] Oh, I love a nice huge.

[210] A huge sinkhole story there's the thing of like when there's like a sinkhole happens and the car is like kind of like just nose dive into it and they're not like they're still sticking out but a 30 foot deep fucking goodbye to the car sinkhole yes you wouldn't if you were a block away you wouldn't know cars were ever there right it's it's not that's you know that my great love of sinkholes started when we lived in san francisco and one night on the way home from a bar people were like did you hear about the sinkhole up on i think it was like russian hill one of those fancy very hilly neighborhoods that's um and so we went up there and it was literally a block long the entire street dropped and 30 feet sounds right because it was as if if it if your car dropped one car like height down it was down there like five cars worth oh my god it was so far down a rich rich fucking houses and shit yeah wow crazy that's how it started so a real deep technical sinkhole in front of the IHop or on the side of it.

[211] We love it.

[212] Karen's origin story of love of sinkholes.

[213] That's where all my passions begin.

[214] That's right.

[215] Okay.

[216] I'm not going to tell you the name of this one.

[217] It actually was sent in to the fan cult.

[218] That's where we got it.

[219] So, hey, Queens, OG listener, first time writer.

[220] I was telling my dear old dad who has no interest in chew crime about my favorite podcast, and he was surprisingly interested.

[221] And it says, new murdering now.

[222] Hey.

[223] After trying to explain the quote, you're in a cult call your dad, we got on the subject of cults.

[224] Somewhere in the conversation, he casually says, did I ever tell you about the time I met Jim Jones?

[225] Actually, I think he tried to recruit me. To which I responded, tell me everything immediately.

[226] Mm -hmm.

[227] Just to give you some context, in the early 1970s, my dad was a young medical student in San Francisco and heavily involved in the nation of Islam.

[228] If you aren't familiar with the nation, it's a black nationalist movement that combines religious elements of Islam.

[229] The nation was active in the civil rights movement with some of the most notable members being Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali.

[230] Well, in the 70s, the people's temple was on the same street as the nation of Islam's temple.

[231] Apparently, Jim Jones would make appearances at the nation's temple where he was pretty well received for his views on racial inclusion.

[232] One day my dad showed up at the nation's temple and was surprised to see a white man, Reverend Jim Jones, as their guest speaker.

[233] According to my dad, he was very charismatic and spoke in a way that captivated everyone.

[234] After the service, my dad went up to Jones and introduced himself.

[235] Somewhere in the conversation, my dad let him know that he was close to graduating from medical school and Jim Jones perked up and said, we could use a doctor when we move our temple soon.

[236] Come visit me at the people's temple and we'll talk.

[237] Not long after that conversation, my dad got a resident.

[238] residency offer in my hometown of San Diego, and the People's Temple moved to Guyana.

[239] My dad said, even if he stayed in San Francisco, he wouldn't have met with Jones because he, quote, didn't like the assumptive way he decided that I was going to help him with whatever weird shit he had going on.

[240] Way to trust your gut, Dad.

[241] When he heard about the tragedy in Jonestown, my dad said he was shocked.

[242] I didn't know this, but a large majority of the people's temple followers were African -American.

[243] So it had a deep impact on the black community back in the U .S. who were under the impression that their loved ones were part of a positive movement towards racial unity.

[244] To this day, my dad says he encounters patients who had parents or siblings that were members of the people's temple and moved Tikiana to tragically have their lives ended in Jonestown.

[245] Anyway, my dad is an amazing human who has been a doctor in San Diego for over 40 years.

[246] His office is located in the neighborhood of National City, where he serves low -income communities of color.

[247] And I'm grateful for him for so many ways, but now newly grateful that, he didn't unknowingly join a cult.

[248] Stay sexy.

[249] And if you're in a cult, call your dad because he may know the cult leader, Ariana.

[250] Oh, my God.

[251] I love that story.

[252] I love that it's like, because, and there is a really good documentary about Jim Jones and how kind of how it all got started.

[253] And it really did start, his work started in a very positive place because it was that like 70s, San Francisco, we are going to be.

[254] the ones that change like how racist things are in America and in the city or whatever.

[255] Inclusion, diversity.

[256] And yeah, it just like just trick people into this sense of positivity and then well then he started doing drugs.

[257] That's right.

[258] It's the same fucking story every time.

[259] He got high on his own.

[260] Here comes the speed.

[261] Yeah.

[262] He got high on his own supply and his own power and those two things.

[263] Yes.

[264] Combine or not the fucking positive thing.

[265] It's it takes everything and just weirdly ruins it.

[266] And I mean, yeah, it's also, it's very cool that that doctor is actually serving communities that need it.

[267] When you think about like, yeah, he's the hero of the story.

[268] The health care system.

[269] And yeah, it's just what a badass dad.

[270] Karen, you know I'm all about vintage shopping.

[271] Absolutely.

[272] And when you say vintage, you mean when you physically drive to a store and actually purchase something with cats.

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[289] Goodbye.

[290] Here's my last one.

[291] The subject line says, heartwarming, meat -related COVID ghost story.

[292] Great.

[293] Okay.

[294] KNG.

[295] My uncle Kevin passed away in December due to COVID.

[296] He didn't have a wife or kids, but me and my four cousins were heartbroken to lose him so unexpectedly.

[297] A few days later, the five of us got together in our hometown to write a eulogy for a small COVID -safe grave side service.

[298] We ordered takeout from a local Italian restaurant to eat our feelings.

[299] Inexplicably, our order came with a single pork rib wrapped in tinfoil.

[300] None of us ordered it, nor would we think of ordering a single rib from an Italian restaurant, and it wasn't on the bill.

[301] I think one of us ate it, but we started writing the eulogy and ugly crying, so we forgot all about the rogue rib.

[302] Fast forward to this May, when we all got together again for my medical school graduation, congratulations.

[303] The whole family got together, and we had catering from a local barbecue restaurant.

[304] Casually, my other uncle said, Kevin always called this place add a rib, because you could add a rib to any order for $2 more.

[305] All five of us cousins must have gotten whiplash from how fast our heads turned.

[306] Oh, my God.

[307] I already don't believe in coincidence.

[308] That's the funniest sense of all time.

[309] I already don't believe in coincidence.

[310] Look, I already, look, I'm not some sap.

[311] I don't believe in coincidence.

[312] I mean, you don't think two things can happen accident.

[313] You don't believe that nothing can happen coincidentally.

[314] That is your life.

[315] Okay.

[316] Let's hear the rest of this.

[317] But the chances of us getting a single random rib the night we were writing our uncle Kevin's eulogy who always added a single rib to his barbecue order are so unbelievably small.

[318] We know that this was Kevin saying hi to us and letting us know that he was okay.

[319] This was just one of the strange occurrences involving Kevin in the last.

[320] six months.

[321] Another being his sister, my aunt, taking his member card to the casino just to use up the money on it and immediately winning a $10 ,000 jackpot.

[322] Oh my God!

[323] Coincidence!

[324] No. Here's my favorite sign -off of all time.

[325] Stay sexy and remember that love can never really die.

[326] Jolie.

[327] Julie.

[328] That was a heartwarming meat -related COVID -Ghosts story.

[329] It gave everything it delivered everything it offered it did not over promise no yeah it it actually undersold I love it's so sad that you lost your your uncle and I love stories like that of the the message crying right now everyone especially for someone who doesn't believe in coincidence oh I love it at a rib like there's no way that's there's no way that that there just happened to be at an Italian restaurant a fucking rib at Hi, Mimi.

[330] Just imagine, like, think of one Italian restaurant you've ever been to that offers a side of ribs.

[331] No, it's not a thing.

[332] No. There's no Italian ribs.

[333] It doesn't cross over that way.

[334] It's too specified.

[335] It is.

[336] It's two totally different cuisines.

[337] Okay.

[338] Rest in peace, Uncle Kevin.

[339] Rest in peace.

[340] This one, my last one's called A Catholic Kid at a Seder dinner.

[341] Hey.

[342] I just listened to the minisode about the Margarita Fourth of July debacle, and I knew I had a right in.

[343] Remember when the kid gave all the kids alcoholic margaritas?

[344] I grew up in a mid -side.

[345] Oh, yeah, we asked for getting drunk as a kid's story.

[346] Oh, right.

[347] I grew up in a mid -sized town in Connecticut that had a large Jewish population, but I went to Catholic school.

[348] As such, a lot of our family friends, you know, my parents' actual friends, not just the parents of my friends, were Jewish.

[349] One night when I was about six, we were invited to a Seder dinner.

[350] Being raised Catholic, I didn't understand the traditions or importance, but understood that it was special and I should be on my best behavior.

[351] I don't have a ton of memories from the dinner.

[352] Other than that, it was lovely.

[353] I had a good time, some good food, and was able to try some delicious wine.

[354] What's clear to me now is that I was given grape juice in a wine glass to be included, but to my six -year -old self, I thought that kids drinking actual wine was part of the ceremony, and I just went with it.

[355] You're like, I like these people.

[356] I like the way they think.

[357] This must be a Jewish tradition, and I'm here for it.

[358] I'm down.

[359] I mean, it really is, but.

[360] Cut to a few days later, and I was with my mom running errands.

[361] We were in the very busy shopping center in town, you know, the one where you see everyone you know.

[362] And since it was the early 90s and my mom just had a run in, I was left in the car.

[363] That's another fucking thing we don't talk about.

[364] You used to leave your kid in the car when you'd run errands.

[365] Be good.

[366] At the very least running errands.

[367] And at the most, there's, I know lots of people whose parents left them in the car while they went into a bar.

[368] Oh, for sure.

[369] Yeah.

[370] Very common.

[371] Stay here, be good.

[372] Yeah, don't fight.

[373] Don't fight and only come in here if there's an emergency.

[374] Right.

[375] Keep the doors locked.

[376] There you go.

[377] What a time.

[378] What a time.

[379] Her errand was the liquor store, and one of my clearest childhood memories, I stood up on the center console of the Volvo and stuck my head out of the sunroof and screamed across the crowded parking lot.

[380] Mom, make sure you get the kind of wine I like.

[381] I just stood there like a day.

[382] staring headlights, not knowing what the right reaction was.

[383] But again, because it was the early 90s, eventually she just yelled back to sit down and went into the liquor store.

[384] Now that I'm a parent, I can only imagine how much liquor she bought that day.

[385] I just want to say thank you both for all you do.

[386] I won't go on and on, but just know that I appreciate your openness, your strength, and your friendship.

[387] Stay sexy and get the wine I like, Megan.

[388] holy shit that's awesome I love kids oh god damn it and also just the first of all just a bossy six -year -old like hey hey mom I'm standing in the don't stand up in the car first of all get the wine I like get the wine I like I pop my head out of the sunroof like David Lee Roth in a Van Halen video Also, that makes me think of going to, and I know I've told you this story, but when my mom had a friend named Marsha Greenberg, and we used to go to their house all the time, and they, now I realize they were rich, but I just thought they were like, I liked their house.

[389] It was interesting.

[390] And we got to go to Passover dinner at their house one time, so I got a bunch, like, I got to read, and I got a certain special thing.

[391] and also they were really wealthy so there was like a fruit like display there was like a fruit cornucopia fruit kind of a thing yes but like and I was just like this is living like I want to be in the Greenberg's family I want to be Jewish like this is actually I the youngest there because the youngest okay because yeah gets to read gets to read they're like the most important right you get yeah all this focus and attention and it's like now we're all going to turn and let Karen talk for a while, where it's like, I don't care.

[392] Tell us.

[393] Yes.

[394] It was the greatest.

[395] The worst, though, is when you age out of being the youngest and now there's another youngest and you're, because I was always the youngest in my family of like, you know, 20 fucking cousins.

[396] And so it's always little Georgia gets to read the four questions and all that.

[397] And then eventually one of my cousins had a fucking kid.

[398] And I'm not the center.

[399] I'm just kidding.

[400] I don't give a shit.

[401] Yeah.

[402] And you don't get to be the lead in the play.

[403] in the Jewish in the Jewish holiday play that's right tough it is tough and that's where my trauma stems from send us your hometowns also if you want one more little tidbit we have in the fan called the mini mini so we mini mini read one more hometown and you can um you can what's it called submit your hometowns there too and might get picked sooner yeah we get we we pick um we saved the really long cinematic epic tale ones usually for the mini mini that's right i mean we're just saying it might be it might be worth you investigating and i don't know hard to say it is hard to say because karen's a torus that's a torus me and my solid corridors look here's the thing about hollow corridors which is what we grew up with yeah is if you kick a hole in one because your sister won't give you the belt to the jumpsuit your mom made her loan you yeah classic classic tail you're right the classic legendary story, and you kick a hole in the bottom of her door in a pure rage.

[404] And you're, you're, because you didn't know your foot would go through the door, you can't stick a Mrs. Grossman huge heart sticker over the hole and think you're going to get away with anything.

[405] That's right.

[406] Suddenly your sister would have been in trouble, and now you're in trouble.

[407] Now, clearly, I had something.

[408] She can't kick her own door in if she's on the inside.

[409] Just saying of all the lessons a Taurus can teach you.

[410] Hollow corridors do come into play, actually.

[411] That's a really good point.

[412] That's a great point.

[413] You know what?

[414] The other lesson, stay sexy.

[415] Oh, and don't get murdered.

[416] Goodbye.

[417] Elvis, do you want a cookie?

[418] This has been an exactly right production.

[419] Our producer is Hannah Kyle Kreiton.

[420] Associate producer, Alejandra Keck.

[421] Engineer and mixer.

[422] Steven.

[423] Ray Morris.

[424] Researchers, Jay Elias and Haley Gray.

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