MFM Minisode 231 - Natural Disasters

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Welcome to my favorite murder.

[2] The minisa.

[3] It's cute.

[4] It's short.

[5] It's little.

[6] Don't worry about it.

[7] And we reach it your stuff.

[8] Ready?

[9] Okay.

[10] Do you want me to go first?

[11] Sure.

[12] Is that the most concise, tightest intro we've ever done for ourselves?

[13] Ever, ever done.

[14] Let's talk about it for a little bit.

[15] This is unbelievable.

[16] What we just did now is the opposite of what we usually do, which is what I'm doing now.

[17] We usually just talk and talk and like we talk about, you know, what's up with our week and everything.

[18] Not this time.

[19] down your boyfriend gets upset but not this time we're right to the because really at the end of the day what do you think about it okay ready for this one always uh subject line is sinkhole tried to take my baby and avoiding colts i've been no greeting whatsoever great i love it you don't need one i've been meaning to send in my sinkwell story and was sparked to pause catching up on the latest episodes after hearing you mention the garbage eating cold i met them sorry I was catching up because I spent two weeks in the woods and listening to MFFM in the woods is scary as fuck and I know I shouldn't have even been in the woods in the first place surrounded by dusty white people but I needs my nature therapy onto the stories okay my cult story when I was doing my second attempt at college a group of friends invited me to a free dinner fucking red flag no there's no such thing as free dinner lunch or breakfast this is me talking not the email.

[20] And also that's every cult in the world.

[21] Every religion is like, come to our mixer.

[22] Spaghetti dinner.

[23] Come to our spaghetti dinner.

[24] Shakey cheese spaghetti dinner.

[25] I'd be there in one second if I was like 23.

[26] And that's how they get you.

[27] Okay.

[28] So we're back in the email now.

[29] Okay.

[30] When we got there, it was packed with people and they were serving up typical Midwest hot dish.

[31] Oh, my God.

[32] Hey, vegan and meat option.

[33] Why I remember this?

[34] Who knows?

[35] Right away, I got really weird vibes from this dude who had organized.

[36] the meal and had his little crew with him.

[37] They started talking Jesus' stuff and how all the food was free from the dumpster.

[38] Oh my God, that's not what you want to say.

[39] I latered out of their fast because of bad vibes, gross dumpster hot dish, and I was so over Jesus.

[40] I had no idea it was a cult recruitment until I heard your episode.

[41] I don't know if anybody from school officially joined them, but I know that they held a number of dinners, and a few of my friends really got into going to them.

[42] I feel like my school was too into partying hard to join their cult, but I do know people really got into the idea of dumpster diving free food and not paying rent by squatting all over town and campus.

[43] That's how they get you.

[44] The glamorous life, Sheila E. Okay.

[45] Now it's, we're back.

[46] My second sink, my sinkhole story, sorry, there's no second.

[47] A few weeks after my first daughter was born, we had to go to a midwife's checkup appointment.

[48] We were broke as fuck, didn't have a car.

[49] So in the dead of summer, I'd to walk with my new baby a mile to the bus stop.

[50] Oh, God.

[51] When the bus finally came, I was dying for some bus air conditioning, but a guy got off through the front door, halting my entrance.

[52] And I remember thinking, dude, you're supposed to get off the back door.

[53] There's a system here.

[54] But being a typical Midwesterner, I said nothing and just shamed him in my mind.

[55] Anyway, after he had gotten off the bus, we stepped on and heard a loud crash behind us.

[56] We turned around, and the sinkhole was.

[57] where we were just standing, oh, the sidewalk where we were just standing was gone, and so was the dude.

[58] No. A sinkhole had opened up and swallowed him.

[59] The bus driver radioed 911 or whoever told them what happened.

[60] Someone on the bus was like, back up the bus.

[61] It could open wider.

[62] Yeah, dude.

[63] And I was like, get me and my new baby off this bus.

[64] We all got off the bus and could hear the man screaming and the sound of water rushing to fill the hole.

[65] We tried to yell at him that help was on the way, but he couldn't hear us and just kept screaming.

[66] it was all so unsettling to say the least.

[67] Emergency services finally showed up and was able to get him out.

[68] He was all bloody but able to walk and was taken away in an ambulance.

[69] Like a jerk, I can't help but think if he had just followed the rules and gone off the back of the mud.

[70] Maybe he wouldn't have ended up in that hole.

[71] My mom later said that if we had been the ones who had ended up in the hole, we would be rich with settlement money.

[72] I was just going to say, but yeah, that guy got a fucking big settlement from the city.

[73] I guess that's where I get my A -Hole ideas.

[74] Oh, my God.

[75] That's right.

[76] It's usually hereditary.

[77] Hope you like my non -murter and everybody lives stories.

[78] Lastly, I just want to say thank you for bringing to attention, your struggles, mental health, addiction, eating stuff, etc. It feels like healing.

[79] Oh, that's all nice.

[80] Also, thank you for talking about what's happening to Native American indigenous women, people in this country and in Canada.

[81] Being a member of the community and working for it for a number of years, I unfortunately have more than one story of someone.

[82] know who was murdered.

[83] I don't think I will ever be able to write those stories in an email, but I am grateful that you two have helped give voice to the victims.

[84] It feels kind of awkward to send a fan girl letter, but I love you guys so much, SSDGM, Tessa.

[85] Oh, that was a lovely, lovely email, Tessa.

[86] I feel like we have to really quickly give credit to the podcast missing and murdered because they are the ones who are doing the incredible work on the indigenous people.

[87] Yes.

[88] God, the 60 Sweet Man, that turns out to be that everyone listened to Missing and Murdered.

[89] Missing and murdered and, well, I think because we did talk about Wind River, but that idea that that is like based on the fact that indigenous women get murdered and they're this crazy rate, crazy rate and none of them get solved.

[90] No one works on them and none of them get solved.

[91] So yeah, we could definitely be doing more and we've barely done what like lots of other podcasts have done.

[92] But as long as everyone talks about it.

[93] it.

[94] We can all talk about it together.

[95] That's right.

[96] Thanks, Tessa.

[97] Dear Karen, Georgia, and co. This isn't a murder story, but does fall under some of your categories of interest, namely badass grandparents, survival stories, and flash floods.

[98] In the summer, all our favorites.

[99] Did you know, flash floods are our interest?

[100] They are now.

[101] They are now.

[102] No, it's true.

[103] It's just, you know, one more thing to put on the dating profile.

[104] In the summer of 1976, my grandparents, who, by the way, Karen, she gave us their names, and they live up to the hype.

[105] Irvin and Nancy.

[106] Irvin.

[107] Yes.

[108] Not enough Irvin's anymore.

[109] Wait, is this story about Magic Johnson?

[110] All right.

[111] They had driven up to Estes Park, a small mountain town in Colorado, to go to their regular square dancing group.

[112] Of course.

[113] My impression.

[114] I know.

[115] The way my grandpa used to tell it, on the way home, a huge thunderstorm developed over the mountains, and the night was, quote, black.

[116] than the inside of a cow.

[117] Irvin.

[118] You old bullshit are you?

[119] It was the kind of Western state summer thunderstorms that are so intense that windshield wipers can't move fast enough to see clearly out of the windshield.

[120] Eventually, they had to pull over.

[121] They stayed in the car until a man started banging on their window and yelling at them to get out of their car and head for higher ground.

[122] Oh, shit.

[123] My grandparents ended up having to climb the steep canyon walls in the their square dancing outfits in the pitch dark and pouring rain.

[124] I can fucking picture it now.

[125] Shit.

[126] Yeah.

[127] Swinger partner up the hill.

[128] And docee do.

[129] And dozy do.

[130] As they climbed a huge wall of water came down the canyon and swept away cars, houses, and parts of the road.

[131] Eventually, they had found a group of other people who had climbed up the canyon and took shelter in a van.

[132] They spent the night that way, stranded and waiting for the morning to be rescued.

[133] Down on the planes, my 19 -year -old mom and her older brother had no idea what happened, except that their parents were supposed to be driving back through the flash -flooded canyon and they hadn't arrived home.

[134] They waited out most of the night with their own grandmother until finally getting a call late the next morning that their parents had been rescued by a helicopter and taken to one of the local high schools.

[135] The Big Thompson flood was one of the worst natural disasters in Colorado history.

[136] The storm that caused it dumped 12 inches of rain over the canyon in four hours.

[137] That's a foot.

[138] Huh?

[139] That's a foot.

[140] Fucking right.

[141] 12 inches?

[142] That's not right.

[143] 12 inches is a foot.

[144] Did she mean 12 feet?

[145] No. I don't know.

[146] That's almost the yearly total of rain.

[147] I don't think they could, I don't think he can rain 12 feet in four hours.

[148] I don't think.

[149] But 12 inches of rain is like up here.

[150] You're like, calf.

[151] Well, I bet it's enough.

[152] We're up in California, you guys.

[153] we don't rain is cute here listen you can do a flood I think of 12 inches of rain is plenty to do a flood well a flood doctor please email us and tell us what is a lot of rain yep that seems like a ton great but they do say that that's almost a yearly total of rain for the area in one that they got it all in one night oh shit so they weren't handle they weren't able to handle it no on top of that in the steep canyon all of the water that fell on the hillsides collected in the Thompson River, which is why the flood was so swift and devastating.

[154] 143 people died, and many homes were destroyed.

[155] Some of the cars were washed down the river were only identifiable by their VIN number.

[156] The sediment in the water had completely stripped off the paint.

[157] Wow.

[158] My grandparents' car was never found.

[159] In 2006, three years before she died, my grandma got to meet the man who saved their lives, the guy who banged on the window.

[160] Really?

[161] Butch Hutchins.

[162] Of course that's his name.

[163] he said he had stayed away from the flood memorials because he was afraid to learn that he could have done more but it's because of him that I got to meet both my grandparents SSDGM Maya wow butch Hutchins was that the name butch Hutchins and nancy and irvin are best friends see you know what it's true we don't take like because flooding doesn't affect us that much it is hard to imagine but like the idea that cars were like unrecognizable and like that's I mean that's don't make me say that's the power of water you don't need you don't eat 12 feet so you're the water doctor that's what you're saying it's me ask me a MA water my um do you know my first boyfriend died in a flash flood no yeah that's real sad it's horrible I know well he was we were we weren't together I was you know I was like young at the time when he dated but then we got older as you do and he went off to go to college and he and his best friend just got caught up in a flash flood swept under a fucking semi and oh my god died it's he was such a wonderful person it's really tragic that's horrible mike lewis we met at jewish camp oh wow sad oh it's so sad and people die young i know okay okay ready for more about stuff always cool this um this has all the things I like in it.

[164] That's this one.

[165] Okay.

[166] It all, it, this title gives it away.

[167] Hi, friends.

[168] Earlier this year, I was riding in the car with my boss and the mayor of the tiny town in Tennessee where I work.

[169] Oh, that's fun.

[170] Wait, is your boss and?

[171] Or is the boss your mayor?

[172] He's your mayor.

[173] My boss and the mayor of the tiny.

[174] It sounds like there's three people in the car.

[175] I would assume.

[176] Yeah.

[177] There were three.

[178] They were driving me around, showing me all the sights and sharing some old Southern gossip.

[179] I was pretending to be interested then somehow single.

[180] were brought up and the mayor began to tell me this story.

[181] I had to force myself to listen and actually get the details because all my brain was yelling was, oh my God, Karen would love this story.

[182] So here goes.

[183] A few miles outside of the town where I work is a historic farm called Rock Rest Farms.

[184] In 1902, a man by the name of Elijah Creek bought the 630 acre property and built a stagecoach in that served travelers along the Nashville to Louisville Pony Express line.

[185] There were many rumors about Elijah's origins.

[186] He claimed to be from an island in the Mediterranean off the coast of Spain, but this story was widely disbelieved.

[187] Regardless, the other local people found Elijah to be super creepy.

[188] Francois Michaud, the French naturalist, wrote in his diary in 1802 about his stay at Cheeks Inn, quote, fearing that I should witness some murdering scene, I quickly took my leave and put up in an inn about three miles further on, end quote.

[189] That Francois trusts his intuition.

[190] Yeah, That's right.

[191] That's how the French are.

[192] They know how to make good wine, and they listen to their gut.

[193] And because of that, they're very thin.

[194] Francois's gut wasn't wrong.

[195] Rumor had it that Elijah would rob and kill the guests in the caves behind the inn, where they would store cold foods in the underground stream.

[196] These rumors were never confirmed, and Elijah died of natural causes in 1818.

[197] It's not known exactly when, but at some point after Elijah's death, the caves were searched for signs of the murders.

[198] some jewelry and some small bones were found but no bodies so jump ahead to me in the car with the mayor and he tells me the mayor it's like this person's bragging like i hung out with the mayor for the day like that's a really impressive awesome thing I mean when have I hung out with the mayor never you fucking never don't even act don't even for like you've hung out with a mayor like this person because you haven't okay so jump ahead to me in the car with the mayor and he tells me that about 20 years ago, there's a massive flood.

[199] And during that, there's all kinds of themes in this show.

[200] Yeah, for sure.

[201] A massive flood.

[202] And during that flood, a sinkhole located on the property filled completely with water, bringing to the surface a bunch of floating human bones.

[203] Oh, my God.

[204] Uh -huh.

[205] The bones were taken away and tested and found to be dated back to the 1800s.

[206] These are believed to finally be the discovered bones of several of Elijah Creek's victims.

[207] He would murder and robbered.

[208] as victims in the caves and disposed the bodies by throwing them down the sinkhole where they stayed hidden for nearly 200 years.

[209] Wow.

[210] A fun little fact, the stagecoach in Burned Down in 1847, the inn was rebuilt and was again destroyed by Union soldiers.

[211] In 1952, another barn on the property was burned down.

[212] Maybe the ghosts of Elijah Cheeks pissed off victims stuck around.

[213] Anyways, you guys feel like some of my best friends that I get to hang out with every day on my way to work.

[214] And when I heard this story, I knew I had to write in.

[215] You were so right.

[216] Stay sexy and always check the sinkhole for bodies.

[217] Keelan.

[218] That had everything you love in it.

[219] The mayor.

[220] Hanging out with the mayor.

[221] Driving around with the mayor.

[222] Tiny bones.

[223] Tiny bones.

[224] A little tiny bit of treasure in a cave.

[225] And then 200 year old bones that actually prove an old theory that people were like, you must be insane.

[226] And suddenly it's like in your face.

[227] The sinkhole, the sinkhole hold secrets and one day the sinkhole flourishes the secret.

[228] I don't know.

[229] What you're saying is fill every sinkhole with water and let see how many bodies this might be one of my favorite stories.

[230] It's shit.

[231] It reminds me of the town on fire story.

[232] Really?

[233] No matter what you say now I'm going to say I don't like it.

[234] I didn't really like that one.

[235] I didn't really like that one.

[236] I like that one.

[237] Okay, this is called poisonous jello rain.

[238] Oh, shit.

[239] Hey, y 'all.

[240] My grandpa is currently in the process of moving, so we've all been doing a lot of house hunting.

[241] One place we found was an Oakville, Washington, south of Puget Sound.

[242] We didn't know much about Oakville, so we researched the town a bit to see what it's like.

[243] What we got was a very exciting and honestly perplexing surprise.

[244] Turns out Oakville is famous for the most bizarre weather anomaly I've ever heard of, gelatinous blog.

[245] Rob rain.

[246] What?

[247] And I just want to say for the fucking record, aliens.

[248] I'm 100 % behind aliens that this is the cause.

[249] I'd say local chemical company.

[250] Yeah, but maybe there's, you got to hear the weird fucking things.

[251] No, no, I'm deciding already.

[252] Too late.

[253] Okay.

[254] On August 7th, 1994 at about 3 a .m., the first bout of Jello rain began to fall.

[255] It was clear like normal rain.

[256] but much unlike normal rain, it was gooey to the touch.

[257] Oh, my God.

[258] It smeared in windshield wipers and looked vaguely like mushy hailstones on the ground.

[259] This unsettling precipitation fell six times over a three -week period and covered 20 square miles.

[260] Oh, but that's not the weirdest part.

[261] Not only was this rain texturally fucked, but also those who came in contact with it fell very ill. They experienced shortness of breath, vision, long.

[262] I think I have it.

[263] You have it now.

[264] They experienced shortness of breath, vision loss, vertigo, and nausea, which lasted from months for some.

[265] Several pets also died after being exposed to the goop.

[266] Samples of the rain goo were tested and found to contain human white blood cells, two kinds of bacteria, and eukarotic cells that suggest it was part of something alive.

[267] But to this day, no one knows what the fuck fell from the sky.

[268] Theories include jellyfish bits blown to the air by bomb tests.

[269] Why would there be human DNA in it?

[270] Great question.

[271] Bio -warfare experiments and waste from airplanes.

[272] But none of these fit perfectly.

[273] I'm calling aliens, they said.

[274] They said it.

[275] And I agree.

[276] Needless to say, we were pretty unenthused about buying a house there after reading all that.

[277] but I was naturally fascinated and immediately thought to tell you folks about it.

[278] I got my info from the Unsolved Mysteries Wiki, and there are plenty of articles about it.

[279] If you want to check it out for yourselves, you can't make this shit up.

[280] Stay sexy and don't move to Oakville, Lila from Seattle.

[281] Ah, dude.

[282] Human fucking blood cells.

[283] Oh, humid blood cells.

[284] That's right, not human DNA.

[285] That is so unnerving.

[286] The consistency element of it is very upsetting.

[287] I want to know about the bacteria has to be in.

[288] Like, I wonder where the bacteria has been seen before.

[289] I wonder what the hell eukaryotic cells means.

[290] And if I'm saying it right, so many questions.

[291] Kind of sounds like the Eucharist.

[292] Like, there's bodies of Christ Amen in there.

[293] Lila.

[294] Lila, great.

[295] Great job.

[296] Great.

[297] Great.

[298] What's it called instinct on sending it into us?

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[321] Goodbye.

[322] Okay.

[323] This is an I survived plus a sinkhole story.

[324] Say what?

[325] Oh, Karen's like, trifecta, but with two things.

[326] Trifecta minus one.

[327] What do they call that?

[328] Sleak, and it's a bifecta.

[329] A bifecta.

[330] Hello, Karen, Georgia, Stephen, and all associated animals.

[331] I love that.

[332] That sounds like it's civic -based.

[333] I live near the Indiana Dunes National Lakeshore, which is located on the southern tip of Lake Michigan.

[334] A very common pastime when spending a day at the beach is to run up and down the dunes.

[335] I'm not entirely sure why that is, as the sand is always hot as fuck, and have you ever tried to climb a sand mountain?

[336] It sucks.

[337] These dunes are known.

[338] as living dunes because they move anywhere from a few to upwards of 20 feet per year.

[339] One of the more famous dunes is called Mount Baldi and is over 120 feet tall.

[340] In July of 2013, six -year -old Nathan Wassner was visiting the dunes with his family and went to climb Mount Baldy with his father when all of a sudden he fell into a St. Cole, all caps.

[341] The dune literally swallowed him.

[342] Oh, my God.

[343] Nightmare.

[344] Nightmare.

[345] Apparently, all the years of shifting had compromised the integrity of the surface and allowed for a giant -ass -boy swallowing sinkhole.

[346] His father and other beachgoers immediately tried to dig him out, but they could not see or hear him, and the sand was difficult to displace.

[347] First responders arrived and tried to use shovels to dig Nathan out, to no avail.

[348] After a few hours, they were able to drive an excavator up the dune, start using that to dig, but they had to be extremely careful so as not to hurt Nathan with a giant metal.

[349] claw digging thing so progress was slow as they would have the excavator move a foot forward dig around with their arms and shovels then repeat the process for what I'm sure seemed like an eternity after what I'm sure seemed like an eternity one of this first responders felt the top of Nathan's head and was able to pull him out he was found in a standing position as if he had fallen down a narrow pipe when he was pulled out he was cold limp and didn't have a pulse which wasn't terribly surprising since he had spent four hours buried in a sand sinkhole.

[350] That's fucking horrifying.

[351] But then, as he was in the back of a lifeguard truck on the way to the ambulance, he first responder noticed that a cut on the top of his head had started to bleed.

[352] His heart started beating again.

[353] He was rushed to a local hospital and then later airlifted to Chicago where it was determined that he had suffered no brain damage.

[354] And in fact, his only injuries appeared to be that cut on his head where someone nicked it with a shovel while they were digging.

[355] I knew it.

[356] And a scratch on on his cheek he has no memory of the incident so he's not even traumatized just the parents um no one knows how he was able to survive that long buried in the sand mount baldie was closed for a few years afterwards good no shit but they reopened it last summer the big fence and warning signs around it saying that if you went inside the fence you'd be fined uh pretty sure the death threat of getting buried alive inside of sand dune is more of a deterrent than a fine but okay stay sexy and away from sand dunes kim that scares me so much that's nuts but this the sand dune got angels saved him yes they did also can you imagine being this parent of like the longer they search you're just like this we're looking for my kid's body oh that is bananas that i have to admit i read the first page of that i did not read the second page and i was like stephen you've got the whole world in your hands right now i'm like what is because you know better than to lead us down the stony path of then the child just died in the sand right right steven well sometimes we like that he knows it well true sometimes it's just like it printed out that way too so that made it probably worse more dramatic because it was like you had to turn the page yeah i was not expecting my kid to ranathan to live i really wanted him to be in a hidden cave with egyptian treasure it's crazy that he doesn't remember it because like i wonder if he was just like off one another in another plane of existence his his whole interior was like we're shutting all of us down for we're going to hold for six hours and we're going to be right back online do you need us knock us give us a knock on the head with shovel just go ahead and dig into my head with a shovel okay this my last one's called kentucky meat shower oh yeah karen georgia stephen vince and all the pets all vince uh i was listening to the recent minisode where you shared about the jello rain shower in washington and finally i have a town to send you the story of the Kentucky meat shower here we go back in March 1876 on a clear night in Rankin Kentucky Mrs. Couch I never could find her name only her husband's ugh was outside minding her own business doing farming type things on her farm when all of the sudden chunks of meat started falling from the sky the chunks were as small as a golf ball up to as big as a great fruit.

[357] I'm sure this poor woman was freaking the fuck out.

[358] She was interviewed saying, the shower of flesh must have been a sign from God.

[359] Yeah, probably.

[360] The next day, what kind of sign?

[361] I don't know.

[362] Go inside.

[363] Stay inside.

[364] Finish your basement.

[365] Go inside and finish your basement.

[366] The next day, some random dudes came to the farm to investigate and said the mystery meat had the distinct taste of quote, rancid mutton, which means they ate it.

[367] Taste.

[368] Who tasted it?

[369] It's like it's like the cocaine rubbing it on your tooth.

[370] But the meat shower.

[371] taste it just you just dab it under your tongue each side and it says no thank you a scientist later studied a preserved sample and said it had to be some form of no stick or cyanobacteria that can fall when it rains much like the story in the last hometown which i pronounced totally wrong by the way in the last i got so many tweets but i don't care about whoa the what whatever that's called sciencey pronunciations that i don't know oh are you not a scientist did you know i'm not a scientist wait no because you've been acting like one this whole time.

[372] Yeah.

[373] And it's on my resume that I gave you for this podcast.

[374] Science, smoking, fensive.

[375] The only problem with that theory is that it was a completely clear night.

[376] So it couldn't have been part of Lorraine.

[377] To add further confusion to the story, a later analysis of the tissue discovered it to be either lung tissue from a horse or all caps, a human infant.

[378] And then it says, apparently those tissues were indistinguishable back then.

[379] weird so it's probably horse meat it can't a human infant but okay but questions okay let me keep reading so what actually happened question mark no one knows for certain the favorite theory of locals in the area is that the meat from the sky was quite literally meat they think vultures flying overhead must have disgorged their stomachs all at once to cause the chunks of meat to shower down they had probably previously chowed down on an animal carcass hopefully and poor mrs couch was just incredibly unlucky that night.

[380] I've lived in Kentucky for more than half my life now, and I love my weird and wonderful state, hoping to see you come through here again if the world stops ending.

[381] Thanks for keeping me sane, normalizing my true crime obsession, and just generally being the best.

[382] SSDGM and watch for meat showers, Kayla.

[383] Kayla, I need to know, if you're going to say a meat shower in my mind, that means meat is going from as far as the I can see to the right, as far as the I can see to the left, back and forward.

[384] So if it's vultures throwing up, yeah.

[385] Did it just, did it come down within like a 10 foot radius?

[386] Or was like, is this like one person one?

[387] And then that's it.

[388] Who knows?

[389] Yeah, because, yeah, right?

[390] Because then I, there's so many theories you could start inventing.

[391] Yeah.

[392] About what that be from.

[393] But I imagined that it was like when you talked about the other one, that it's like rain, showering.

[394] Yeah.

[395] Like rain goes everywhere.

[396] It doesn't just.

[397] No, I think it was just.

[398] the meat.

[399] Can someone also like a biology major tell us if if fucking horse meat and human infant meat are at all similar why back in the 1800s they would have confused the two?

[400] I have to say that I bet you the scientist that theorized that was like this the chances are this looks a lot like a horse lung to me. What if it was a baby?

[401] What if it was a baby?

[402] Oh my God.

[403] And then then the person that they worked with is like still writing it down.

[404] Or it's like, no, No, no, no. Don't write down everything I say.

[405] He's thinking it and accidentally writing it at the same time.

[406] You know, when you do that?

[407] Oh, yeah.

[408] That's got to be like, he's writing what it probably is.

[409] Right.

[410] Then he accidentally wrote what he hopes it's not.

[411] Right.

[412] What would be the best case scenario and the worst case scenario?

[413] Best case scenario.

[414] And then when he will quit is when it comes back to us.

[415] But if this ever happens again and it's human infant, I'm out.

[416] I just need to know the range.

[417] I need to know the what by what did this file.

[418] in yeah um send us your fucking stories please they're so fun they're so fun they're getting better by the moment they really are so good i had so many good ones to choose from uh you can send them to my favorite murder at gmail there's a place on the website just to send them and in the fan cult as well we love them and come and be a part of things listen and then get just find one noun that you can relate to your own life and that like many people did on this episode and then go i finally have a reason to write in and write it in.

[419] That's right.

[420] And also, you stay sexy.

[421] And don't get murdered.

[422] Goodbye.

[423] Yeah.

[424] Elvis, do you want a cookie?