#1621 - Jim Breuer

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[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] What's up, Joe?

[4] We're doing it.

[5] It's happening.

[6] Oh, it just started?

[7] Yeah, yeah, we're rolling.

[8] Oh, okay.

[9] Good to see you, brother.

[10] Good to see you, too.

[11] Dude, you're, like, one of my longest -term comedy friends.

[12] Like, we've known each other since the early years, man. I want to say, like, 91.

[13] Yeah, I think it's around 91.

[14] And what a lot of people probably don't even know is, like, the way you're TV career, hardball.

[15] Yeah, you were on hardball.

[16] Jim and I did a pilot for a sitcom that was on Fox in like 93.

[17] Yep.

[18] Right?

[19] Like 93?

[20] Yep.

[21] And Jim was the mascot for the opposing team.

[22] Right.

[23] And it was fucking hilarious.

[24] God damn, we had fun.

[25] I have a photo of you and I. We look like babies.

[26] I got to find it.

[27] We look like babies.

[28] I would love to see that photo.

[29] Yeah.

[30] We were both.

[31] like 26 and we're a little cute face little babies and I remember I remember watching the show so excited for you and then and then after hardball because I'd always follow you you then was it news radio yeah and I'm like Joe's on news radio and I tell my wife and we would watch like we're so excited for Joe and then just watching you just constantly grow and grow and then And then when you started doing the UFC, I would tell my friends, like, that's the real Joe.

[32] Like, that's Joe's.

[33] And when you start doing this, I went, that's Joe Rogan, man. Meaning, this is how I've known you forever.

[34] It's not like we've hung out all the time.

[35] But I remember just being in L .A., just hanging out talking to you.

[36] And I couldn't relate to a lot of, you know, I was, I wanted leather pants and a fucking white tiger walking down.

[37] I was chasing it all, whatever.

[38] You're like, oh, start him that way.

[39] What did you want?

[40] Dude, the first time I went to L .A., I went into a place and I bought, like, satin, blue clothes.

[41] I wanted, really?

[42] I wanted Eddie Murphy leather pants with, like, a tight.

[43] I wanted to walk down Melrosewood a tiger just so people got a fucker successful.

[44] So you had some like high school boy, like the posters on the wall, like these kind of thoughts about success.

[45] Well, MTV showed me. So I wanted to be, I wanted to be Judas Priest.

[46] I wanted to.

[47] I didn't know the guy was wearing an S &M outfit.

[48] Nobody did.

[49] He talked so many guys.

[50] He came out with a bullwhip.

[51] When he came out as gay, a lot of guys are like, hey, wait a minute.

[52] Oh, duh.

[53] I mean, look how he's dread.

[54] Give me a photo of Rob Halford.

[55] I met Rob Halford.

[56] He's a really nice guy.

[57] I did this VH1 show that I hosted once, and he was one of the guests on it.

[58] Super cool guy.

[59] Great guy.

[60] You got another thing.

[61] And I would argue with people.

[62] They go, Brewer, you know, this guy's gay.

[63] I'm like, no, he's not.

[64] Look at the chaps.

[65] You don't even see the chaps in that picture.

[66] He's got a bullwhip.

[67] He's wearing an S &M outfit.

[68] Look at that one.

[69] Go to that one with an open shirt.

[70] Right there.

[71] He's screaming, I'm gay.

[72] And I'm yelling at people going, no, he's not.

[73] He's metal, you moron.

[74] And the reason why I would argue is because I'd say, he doesn't have an earing in his right ear.

[75] Because that's what defined what was gay.

[76] Yeah.

[77] I had dangling cross -earing, so everyone that was gay knew a brewer is not gay, he's got it on the left side.

[78] But if you had it on the right ear, you're like, oh, this guy.

[79] Remember that?

[80] Of course I do.

[81] I remember if you were a rock and roll guy, you were allowed to have one in two years.

[82] Yeah, and still, it was a little sketch.

[83] For me, it was a little sketch.

[84] If you had in your right ear, like, and if you had hoops, they couldn't be too big.

[85] I remember I got a hoop on my left ear, and it was a little too big.

[86] And I looked at myself in the mirror, I was like, I don't know about that hoop.

[87] I think I'm glad I didn't know you at that point.

[88] I think Joe turned a corner.

[89] Something about that.

[90] Yeah, something about Joe.

[91] You turn that corner.

[92] Yeah, Rob Halford got everybody to dress up like an S &M person.

[93] Dude, I swear in my life, I went to this little show.

[94] I grew up in Long Island, and there was this little rock and roll shop named Slip Disc, and they sold the Rob Halford with the spikes.

[95] The glove?

[96] No. It was around your wrist band, right?

[97] And I remember going to order pizza.

[98] And I rolled my denim jacket.

[99] I go, let me get two slices.

[100] And I just would let everyone know, like, you see what the fuck I got on.

[101] You see what's going down, right?

[102] What a bunch of moron.

[103] So that's why I can't get annoyed at my kids.

[104] Because I was, I had a. dangling cross -hearing.

[105] I'm wearing a denim jacket with painted Judas Priest on the back.

[106] And I think I know the world.

[107] I mean, that's...

[108] And I'm in L .A. and I'm ready to wear leather pants.

[109] Every kid's got to be able to make their own fucking ridiculous mistakes like that.

[110] Yeah.

[111] Oh, so what I...

[112] I know you don't remember, but I remember being in L .A. with you, I don't know what the hell we...

[113] Maybe it was for the pilot.

[114] And I'm ready to go and go star -humping and get my star on it and you're like, dude, want to go to the gym?

[115] I went to the gym.

[116] Why would you want to go to the gym?

[117] We're in L .A. He's like, bro, go to the gym and I'm going to the pool hall.

[118] You want to go to the pool hall?

[119] And you dragged me in the pool hall.

[120] And it's like, what am I doing?

[121] That was Hollywood billiards.

[122] Yes.

[123] Famous place.

[124] But you stayed who you were.

[125] And that I always admired.

[126] I always admired.

[127] that well i got lucky the those things didn't have an appeal to me like going to parties and all that stuff it just did there was no appeal for whatever reason i just didn't find it interesting i mean occasionally occasionally go to a party talk to some interesting people it's fun but for the most part i felt like it was a lot of standing around and in hollywood the conversations that were really interesting were few and far between they weren't that like i've been to parties at friends house that have like really cool friends and you meet interesting people and you have like really fun conversations but in Hollywood it was a lot of like who you know and what are you doing and what we're planning and how we're going to take over and did you have a deal?

[128] Oh my God, I know him.

[129] I could hook you up with that producer.

[130] Oh, the deal thing.

[131] The deal thing.

[132] And getting to know actors was such a...

[133] It was like these poor folks had...

[134] You know how a lot of kids today have a real problem with social media because they're looking at other people's stuff and other people's faces look perfect because they're wearing filters and they have this they see other people party and they have the FOMO, the fear of missing out and it's just, they're constantly comparing themselves to other people.

[135] Well, for actors, when I saw, when I lived in, you know, in the 90s in Hollywood, it was the Hollywood reporter and like variety and all of the industry magazines.

[136] They would all sit around reading them the same way like a jealous person looks at someone's Instagram like you look at some guy's car God he's got a fucking 69 Camaro shit you know look at her with her Gucci bag and her this and her that and they also flaunt I remember being with some I don't know you want to give the person credit so I'm working with some person and what's her name rhyme with um hats so Mr. Mr. Hats who's literally like a Dr. Seuss character anyway, would try to impress his people.

[137] And I'll never forget, he's like, I've got this brand new Lamborghini.

[138] You got to check it out.

[139] And so I, but Mr. Hats didn't buy a brand new Lamborghini.

[140] He bought a used one.

[141] And he goes to this lot, which is next to Jay Leno.

[142] That's all they do is name drop, name drop, money, name drop.

[143] And so he's pulling out of the garage.

[144] The side view mirror starts dangling.

[145] And the back, and he's six foot three.

[146] So he's in his fucking thing like this.

[147] Hop over there, Papa, while I try to abuse more young minds like yourself and rape your ideas.

[148] And so he hop in there.

[149] And then the thing bottomed out, you know, broke down two days later.

[150] But going to that distance just to show off is just exhausting.

[151] Some people, they think that that's the only way in their head they've ever made it.

[152] They have to have that thing where they show.

[153] I've got the Lamborghini.

[154] I got the house in the Hollywood Hills.

[155] Like, here I am.

[156] That's one of the reasons why people like to throw parties.

[157] It's not just to have a bunch of people over the house to show you what they have.

[158] Like, look.

[159] And I was falling for that in the beginning.

[160] I fell for it hard.

[161] But how'd you get out of it?

[162] Because you live, I love the way you live.

[163] You live in New Jersey, you live in a nice, beautiful community with trees and shit and everything's calm and you're a family man. I love the fact that you just went, no, no, no, no, no. I grew up probably like the way you did.

[164] I don't know exactly.

[165] I grew up very blue collar.

[166] My dad was sanitation.

[167] My mom worked at the airport.

[168] We lived near JFK.

[169] And everyone looked after each other.

[170] It was a community.

[171] He was a fan.

[172] You may not like each other, but everyone, I thrived for that my whole life once I left it.

[173] Hollywood doesn't present.

[174] Nothing where it presents.

[175] So how did I leave it?

[176] I think it was, it was, honestly, I think getting fired.

[177] Seeing too much of Hollywood, I got shot out of a cannon, and I immediately had such a disgusting taste in my life.

[178] I wanted nothing to do with anybody.

[179] Yeah, you went from SNL to just going, fuck it.

[180] I'm just going to do stand -up.

[181] I'm going to do my radio show.

[182] I'm going to do stand -up.

[183] Right after that, well, okay.

[184] So when you, at the end of the day, I didn't even want SNL.

[185] I didn't want SNL.

[186] You and I both know that was, nobody came out there going, that's the greatest gig.

[187] It's very rarely people came out of there.

[188] They come out of there like they were in a fight.

[189] Absolutely.

[190] Like they just got out of it.

[191] of a fucking bar fight.

[192] Exactly.

[193] That's how Phil Hartman was.

[194] When I first started working with Phil Hartman in 94, he had just left SNL, and it took a while for him to be comfortable around us.

[195] Like the news radio people, the actors, were super friendly.

[196] Everybody liked to get hammered.

[197] It was like the big thing.

[198] We would get fucking blasted drunk.

[199] But we were all like really, like in terms of like actors, genuinely supportive.

[200] Like Dave Foley was the most supportive guy ever.

[201] Like, he was always writing jokes for you.

[202] He was always, like, rewriting scenes for you.

[203] Like, Jim, why don't you come in and say this instead?

[204] Well, he would write, like, really great lines.

[205] But Phil was like, he was in a competition at first.

[206] He thought, like, everybody was going to be competent.

[207] Then he, once he relaxed, Phil liked to smoke weed.

[208] And once he relaxed, he's like, you know, going over there.

[209] It was, like, doggy dog, and everybody was, like, doggy dog.

[210] And everybody's at each other's throats.

[211] It's doggy dog.

[212] And there's no rhyme or reason.

[213] Yeah.

[214] There's no rhyme or reason.

[215] It's just like politics.

[216] In other words, I can't help with Congress, what bill they're going to pass.

[217] Even they know this is going to work.

[218] Nope.

[219] Same kind of stuff.

[220] It's the same exact thing.

[221] Because you're fighting to get your bits on, right?

[222] You're fighting to get your pieces on.

[223] You're fighting to get your little sketches on.

[224] Yeah.

[225] And the worst part is you know something's going to work and you have someone come to you.

[226] Towards the end, it made me such a dark human being.

[227] because I'm the hey man let's all yeah let's all be team and I used to when I when I worked with hats I said let's look at this roster holy crap let's see who goes in the Boston comedy club let's just buy a script and put everyone in it and let them play to their strength wow you know this one I'm like I wish I had the business smarts to go back and do that because you're it would have been, it would have been so much fun.

[228] I mean, maybe it would have been disaster.

[229] Maybe this guy, maybe I would have end up getting leather pants.

[230] So I got my fucking white lion leather pan.

[231] But it makes you so, you know, I don't want to rehash bad memories.

[232] You never got bitter, but you understood that bitterness is an option.

[233] Correct.

[234] And I start smoking an intense amount of pot.

[235] Yeah.

[236] Just to numb myself.

[237] I remember when you told me you quit and you're like, dude, I'm, hearing voices.

[238] I think the government's following me. You went so far.

[239] I went far.

[240] I went Jim quit.

[241] But then I talked to you, I like, oh, he might have went into Never, Neverland.

[242] He went to the land of no return.

[243] Well, when you start thinking that the government is watching you?

[244] Non -stop.

[245] Yeah.

[246] Non -stop.

[247] They're on to me because they know I think by myself.

[248] It's like the scene in Goodfellas.

[249] Like, God damn it.

[250] Fucking helicopter.

[251] I fucking love that scene.

[252] But I will say this, yeah, I have...

[253] Have you returned to the fold?

[254] I haven't returned the way I have in the past.

[255] Oh, but a little bit.

[256] But I have...

[257] You will never see me. It's very private.

[258] You're a private weed smoker?

[259] Yeah.

[260] How does that work?

[261] In other words, I don't do it with people anymore because it keeps the paranoia way.

[262] Because I don't trust anyone.

[263] Oh, okay.

[264] I don't trust anyone.

[265] I still don't, and I haven't smoke -smoked, I like, I went to, like, I went out to Colorado and the five little milligrams and a ten -a -fives are nice, those little edibles.

[266] Oh, my God.

[267] Five's nice.

[268] Yes, just have that and go, yeah, and then have like a martini.

[269] Mmm, yeah, yeah, a martini.

[270] Extra dirty?

[271] Not too dirty.

[272] I like it dirty.

[273] I like it, I like it, not crazy dirty, but a little dirty.

[274] A little dirty.

[275] I like that olive juice.

[276] It's delicious I do too So here's what happened My wife This is why This is why my wife's a powerhouse She When you find someone That don't give a shit About the industry And they only care about you It's very hard As an artist That's chasing a star Because you're always chasing the star And you're always chasing the mansion She would go I'll never forget She's like Why you just quit like seriously are you stupid you don't quit cyanide live what the hell is and she's like look at you you come home you're miserable they control everything they steal your ideas this one stole I saw my own two eyes how they treated you in this particularly how do they steal your ideas here we go I'll give you sure you don't want to get high first no let's go take a pee break let's take a pee break No, here's, and again, I've released all this.

[277] Okay.

[278] You know, I got a strong moral backbone.

[279] I'm good.

[280] So, no, I don't have any bad feelings.

[281] What happened was, and I'm not going to put out, and I don't want to hash names and all that, but what would happen is something like this.

[282] You're writing a sketch, and then one of the head writers would come in in the doorway and go, hey, I see you're writing a sketch about blah, blah, blah, because we have the main server and we check everyone's sketches.

[283] I just want to let you know I'm writing the same thing.

[284] He goes, you can continue yours, but, you know, I'm in the room with Lorne.

[285] Whoa.

[286] Oh, yeah.

[287] So this is at...

[288] So they would go onto the server, they would see the sketches that you're writing, and then...

[289] Then there was times where a cast member would come in and look at my board and go.

[290] go, oh, what does that mean?

[291] Like, oh, that's a, that's a sketch.

[292] And I know so -and -so's come in.

[293] And I know the ratings are going to be high that week.

[294] So I'm waiting to bring my A stuff for that.

[295] Everyone's going to come out with their fangs out when this one's on.

[296] So I'm going to save that sketch for when they're on.

[297] And then this person would ask me, oh, my God, what exactly?

[298] I said, well, I'm going to take it out of its element.

[299] you know like for back then it was like Pessie I'm like Pesci I'm like Pesci's going to read to children about Rudolph the red nose reindeer and tell explain why his nose is red and the big joke is because he's a rat and I compare it to a whole neighborhood he's a rat that's why his nose is red when you grow up and so you end up beating certain kids blah the next week the whole room is set and and you're sitting there and then this person in, you know, Lauren goes, the next sketch is, you know, Al Pacino is Scarface reading to school children, Rudolph, the red -nosed reindeer.

[300] And you go, you, you, and you look, you see their, their eyes are down.

[301] You know what's going on.

[302] You know what happened.

[303] And you can't say anything.

[304] Well, when you say something, which I eventually did, dude, I think I may be, and I, I want to challenge all SNL cast and writers I may be the last one that threatened violence I was in I was in a room with one of the guys and I literally said I will knock your fucking teeth down your fucking throat you motherfucker if you don't want to fucking be here get the fuck out you don't shit on my shit because you don't want to fucking oh dude and I was and I told him I'll knock him the fuck I'm not his fucking teeth down and stuff I'm not I'm not from the right in world so that's where that place brought me wow and so in that particular instance was see now I'm getting all over that's got to be coming from the top down because the when when I got alone with Phil like Phil and I became close and you know we would hang out together especially in his his dress room he had a nice dresser room had it all set up had a guitar was looking at his aviation books and shit and we would talk about his time there and he's like it just made me that's just bitter and angry yes yeah but it seems like it's always been that way that it's been from the top down and and this particular what year were you on 95 to 98 so you were on right after phil left yeah because i was with phil in 94 and so when that person did that I then went up to them and I waited and I was like you motherfucker he goes I didn't no I didn't take it now this one also is getting more air time because they're in with this specific head writer and then the head writer comes to me hey man leave him alone I go hey man stop him from stealing well you know I don't care what he does just leave him alone during my sketches.

[305] Like, why you do...

[306] So you're, it's like you're in high school.

[307] And so, yeah, it makes you...

[308] And then, I remember doing something where I played a drunk guy.

[309] And I didn't know exactly how to do, but I always wanted to be another Foster Brooks.

[310] I loved Foster Brook.

[311] He made me laugh.

[312] So, you know who he is?

[313] Do you remember Foster Brooks?

[314] No, I don't.

[315] The Foster Brooks.

[316] Brooks, Dean Martin, the airplane, this guy was the greatest drunk in history.

[317] In history, he was belly laughing funny to the point where I don't believe he was sober, even though clearly he was just doing a character.

[318] He was the greatest drunk character in history.

[319] That's Foster Brooks?

[320] That's Foster Brooks.

[321] I have no idea who this guy is.

[322] Are you kidding?

[323] You got to.

[324] I'm here to say, so new.

[325] Let's bomb is past.

[326] My bosom, my bo 'n, my bo 'h.

[327] So he was playing a drunk.

[328] Yeah, yeah, but he's overdone the character by this sketch.

[329] You've got to go back when he's, like, doing the airplane, and there's an airplane sketch where he does, and this is when he first started coming out.

[330] It was, so long story short, I wanted to do another Foster Brooks type thing.

[331] So I did the character.

[332] I'm not a great writer.

[333] I'm not a good writer.

[334] at all um but like i'll come up to character and you try to eat and if we could put it somewhere great and i remember the writer coming up saying yeah loren doesn't like uh drunks because you know the past and john and blah blah blah oh okay and then two weeks later john balushi mean yeah i guess that's what he meant and then two weeks later it's the drunk character like what dude what the it's just it's little things that mind screw you like that so by the time the big the big finale was towards the end you know someone told me you know what Sandler did Sandler went through this everyone went through this comedians go through this what you got to do is get on the update and you got to get in the do everything you can to go on the update and everything you can the opening monologue because the headwriters can't mess with you he goes that's not really their department so crazy that that's something you have to think about so then that's why I started doing it if you notice in 98 I started getting more monologues and then even there they were like we got this and then it was a final monologue it was Matthew Broderick and it was when Matthew Brodwick was on and he he couldn't get through some of the sketches I was doing with him he'd start laughing and so when we went to he really wanted to do this monologue with me and this one these particular head writers were like no we're not doing it although matthew was like i want to do jims i want to do jim and tracies and there was two three sketches we had together and he laughed during the dress like he couldn't keep a straight face and then i remember the head this particular writer who had a problem with i never probably just didn't like whatever you had a hard arm for me, whatever.

[335] I don't understand ego.

[336] If you had an ego, that is what it is.

[337] And he said, yeah, it's too bad.

[338] He laughed because now we don't know if it works.

[339] So that's going to be cut and this is cut.

[340] And listen, we filmed the monologue.

[341] It worked, but we're going to go with my monologue during the air show.

[342] I was like, you know what, man?

[343] I'm going to talk to Lorne.

[344] He goes, no, you're not.

[345] I said, no, I'm talking to Lauren now.

[346] I'm not afraid to talk to Lauren anymore.

[347] because that's another thing.

[348] It's like, you know, I talk to the president.

[349] Don't talk to the president.

[350] They put this.

[351] So he would say, no, you're not?

[352] Yeah.

[353] I'm going to talk to Lauren.

[354] 100%.

[355] We'll talk to him.

[356] No, we'll both go talk to him.

[357] And then that's, I knew right from that minute, I was done.

[358] I knew I was done.

[359] And then that summer, this guy named Gary Considine, he ran the Tonight Show.

[360] And he said, Chan, what happened?

[361] I said, what's the matter?

[362] He goes, so and so and so and so.

[363] are really saying you're out and i went really i go well tell you what i don't want to be there anymore my wife's like just please quit she says you said in your life if any job no matter how much money it paid makes you a miserable human being and changes the person you are you weren't going to work there she's like look at you you're angry all the time you smoke pot all the time to numb yourself you're not gym anymore where's the goofy uplifting gym and i wanted to i wanted to like you're so stupid but but she was so smart she was so smart and it was the greatest and i give Lauren a lot of credit because Lauren said to me Jim you're too nice for this business and he said which I'll never forget it was a couple things Lauren said and I never blamed Lauren I always really admired Lauren I said oh he goes and if you ever want to do something I'm your producer I'll produce it for you which I never took that opportunity tuning up, but I'll never forget when he said that to me. So I was very thankful that he was understanding and let me go.

[364] You know, Mitch Hedberg had a great line once about how when you're a comic, everybody wants you to be an actor.

[365] You know, remember that bit?

[366] Yes.

[367] It's so true because as a comic, you're such a great comic and you're so funny.

[368] Your comedy is so wild and it's so uniquely you.

[369] Like, even though you were great on SNL, you're so much better as a comic.

[370] That's your world.

[371] It's my world.

[372] And no can fuck with you and you could you could do the whole thing yourself and then people come to see it for what it is yeah and you don't have to deal with weasley writers and if i if i fail i can live with that i can live with my failure the environments that they created in in in all the different seasons of s and i i don't know from firsthand experience but from everybody that i know that's worked there It's been this super competitive, toxic, political, backstabby sort of a thing that you become like those show business cliches if you fall into it.

[373] And to be honest with you, Joe, when I would see each week you'd see a new celebrity, like you do, you see people come in and out of here.

[374] So you start, I'm sure there's things that you see and you go, how does the, how does the world have no clue that this person's like that?

[375] or maybe you don't but I would see so many come in and I'd go how does no one know that guys are a cunt yes and how does no one know this one's a militant militant gay which if that's what you are fine but they hide it it's weird and how does this one get away with being a drug addict and how does this one get away with having very suspect uh clearly hookers come in of the male kind where i i remember it's one particular and i walked in and i told d and went i don't know if this person was maybe they were 18 i don't know oh no and i remember them coming in like is thaw and thaw hair and I looked down and went yeah their dressing rooms over there I was like oh wow and you could tell they were prostitutes they weren't coming to talk politics how do you know I don't know maybe they just a really good politics but also maybe they were therapists yes they could have been therapist maybe there were foot massagers you know what they could have been a foot massagist and they could have been they could have been could have been teaching them how to make certain crochets yeah or or paper airplanes that's gonna be the saddest one when you wish that you could just be yourself but you can't you have to like I got that I feel real I feel terrible for gay guys and show business that are still trapped and I have a few friends yeah that are great guys that but they just feel like if they come out that people won't look at them the same way I'm like man they'll love you more I agree dona rare had the best line and he goes I wish I was in the closet that's how little like give a fuck.

[376] He goes, I would love to come out.

[377] He goes, if I was gay, he goes, I'd be so happy to come out of the closet.

[378] I don't give a fuck.

[379] You know who I'd always tried was, was, uh, Meanie.

[380] Kevin Meaney, I, I would, he made me laugh so hard.

[381] I got stoned with Kevin.

[382] It was one of the hardest ever laughed at my life.

[383] And anybody like, so this was before he came out?

[384] Before he came out.

[385] Did you know he was gay?

[386] not he didn't admit I knew you knew something was going yeah because when he come on my radio show this is what they do what a lot of gay people or if you're into drugs like I'll sit here I'm like you know it'd be great if I was high right now and that's my that's my cue I'm putting it out there for someone to go oh do you want to get hot oh no you know you know when it comes to penis oh are you I'm just that I just threw the joke out there and so he would he along with two other people I knew would always put certain references out I would see this other person this person would I remember spending time with them we had a condo and they came out and they had their donkey hanging out and I went dude what are you doing and he's like he's just him timidimate me I went no but I've never I went, I've never hung out with another male friend that walks around holding his donkey showing it to another male.

[387] It's just, it's weird, dude.

[388] We don't, do girls do that?

[389] I don't know.

[390] Like, it was just, it's just, it's just, I don't think they do.

[391] No, no. So, and your pussy's hanging out.

[392] That's, there's a lot of other issues.

[393] There's issues, something going on there.

[394] Something's happening.

[395] You need a friend.

[396] Yeah.

[397] You need a friend.

[398] So, Kevin would, he's talking about show tunes.

[399] And he's talking about this.

[400] wearing a bow tie he's wearing a bow tie enough said and like I love you man and I said is there something you want to say because I think the world is okay with it he's like what do you mean you can't get a guy to say that no not a radio but that's too I try to get things so right but I was I think I was 18 or 19 I went to see Kevin Meaney at Catcher Rising Star in Cambridge Massachusetts when he was on top of the world.

[401] I get, I don't know if I was, I don't know if it was a 21 club.

[402] I don't know if I was 21 yet.

[403] I don't think I was because it was my friend from high school, Diane DeRosa.

[404] And we went there and he was so funny.

[405] It was, it was, I couldn't calculate it in my brain.

[406] I didn't understand how he was so funny because, you know, it was like, we're big pants people.

[407] We wear big pants.

[408] He had that whole big pants bit.

[409] my god dude it was like i couldn't breathe like no one could breathe the whole it was he destroyed in a way that it's it's hard to imagine someone killing that hard and it was all like he was so comfortable and loose and it was you know he was on fire back then yeah he was this is before i did stand up i was just going to see stand up then and watching it you know and i remember thinking like god this i don't even know what that guy did it was some kind of wizardry The first guy made me laugh like that in person hard was Richard Jenny.

[410] Oh, yeah.

[411] And this guy would talk about a bottle of water and hit it from every, and every time I think he's done, he'd come out with it.

[412] He just keep going.

[413] He was so good in the 80s.

[414] People don't know.

[415] They don't know.

[416] A monster.

[417] A monster.

[418] A monster.

[419] I worked at Eastside Comedy Club.

[420] Yeah.

[421] They told me that he did four different hours.

[422] Never repeated a joke.

[423] Two shows Friday.

[424] two show Saturday and every comic was sitting around afterwards like they should quit they were like fuck i should just quit i never ever and and you know what right before he took himself out i learned i he taught me a lesson because even when i had my radio show i'm still chasing vanity a little bit and and ego whatever and he's on my radio show and he's going uh He's asked me about whatever, and I went.

[425] I said, you know, I'm looking up to you and this and that.

[426] And I go, but still, you know, this is cool, but I want X, Y, and Z. And he just looked at me with this dead stare.

[427] And he goes, a guy with his own radio show, and he still wants more.

[428] He wasn't kidding.

[429] No, I wouldn't kidding.

[430] And the way he said it.

[431] I was like, oh, wow.

[432] It went right through me. And then, you know, it was a couple months later.

[433] I might have helped him.

[434] I might have been his last little glimmer of hope.

[435] I totally blew that one.

[436] I ran into him a short while before he killed himself on a plane, on a flight.

[437] Just randomly, he was sitting right in front of me. I'm pretty sure we were coming from Austin, too.

[438] I think he was doing a corporate gig, and I think I was doing Cap City.

[439] And pretty sure it was Austin.

[440] And I remember sitting there talking like, hey, Rich, what's up?

[441] How are you doing?

[442] I was in town doing a corporate gig and he always looked like a little out of place.

[443] Yeah, yeah.

[444] Always like you felt like you shouldn't be there a little, you know.

[445] So I got a question for you.

[446] So when you do your shows, stand -up shows?

[447] Yeah.

[448] I've seen you're doing a Chappelle, right?

[449] Do you touch any political stuff whatsoever?

[450] No, I don't, not necessarily.

[451] I don't think politics are very funny.

[452] Me either.

[453] And I think the division that we have in this country is very disturbing.

[454] And I think there's a weird, almost like a mental contagion that's going on through this country of division, of left versus right, where people are choosing sides and people are, you know, either everyone's a communist or everyone's a racist.

[455] It's like there's these absolutes that people are trying to describe people in these ways.

[456] And it's, it's very disturbing to me because I don't think I've ever been a part of, for sure.

[457] I've never seen society this divided.

[458] And where do you think that comes from, honestly?

[459] Social media.

[460] It's a big part of it.

[461] It's a big part of it.

[462] It's a big part of looking for like -minded groups and finding them and also being afraid to deviate from any lines that have been established.

[463] Like, if you don't agree with this, you're a that.

[464] If you don't agree with that, you're a this.

[465] And there's these people getting these echo chambers.

[466] And then there's these algorithms that, unfortunately, feed into natural human patterns of behavior, which is to gravitate towards things that infuriate you.

[467] So whether it's Facebook, did you ever see the social dilemma?

[468] No, I heard about it.

[469] It's great.

[470] You should watch it.

[471] It's so disturbing because they're essentially setting this up.

[472] And it reinforced how I felt and explained things even better to me. And in that documentary, what they're essentially saying is that if this keeps going, we're on the verge of Civil War, that these social media algorithms, whether it's for Instagram or Twitter, and the way these things affect the human mind and how these people are profiting off of this stuff in a massive, massive way, that they're leaning us closer and closer towards the ultimate division, literally a civil war.

[473] And I feel that way.

[474] I really do feel that way.

[475] And what about regular media, though, don't you think they're also part of, if not sometimes more the culprit?

[476] The problem with regular media is they're so often full of shit, yet they are trusted by way too many people.

[477] And I think there's less trust now than ever before.

[478] You know, did you see the shit that the Washington Post had to just retract, that they had attributed a bunch of quotes to Trump after the election with Georgia that turned out to be false, like he never said them?

[479] And one of them was like, find the fraud, and he told the person they would be a national hero.

[480] Well, then they got the audio recording, and by the way, just to be clear, he did say a lot of things that he should not have said.

[481] There was a lot of shit that he said that is egregious.

[482] But this is one particular one that they attributed to him that was not true.

[483] He never said it.

[484] They got the audio recording of the actual phone call, and basically what he said is, you're doing the most important job in the world, counting these ballots.

[485] He did not say find the fraud.

[486] He didn't say these things that they were attributing to him.

[487] And so for months since December, they've been saying this, that he said these things.

[488] Now here we are in March and they finally have to retract it when the audio recordings come out.

[489] But means that someone who was an anti -Trump person, who was like an unnamed source, gave them these quotes, and then they printed them.

[490] This is our trusted media.

[491] That's a real problem.

[492] It's a real problem.

[493] And people, this is the greatest time in human history where there's absolutely zero thinking.

[494] When I say zero thinking and or you're put in fear of thinking.

[495] I'll give you a little example.

[496] I had, I came in, I had to have a COVID test for I walked in here, right?

[497] So it's talking to a nurse.

[498] And I said, I had it.

[499] I had in December.

[500] And I didn't tell anyone because I didn't, I put on social media and I put everyone.

[501] because I didn't want people like, oh, we're going to cancel shows and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[502] It's the hysteria that goes along.

[503] How bad was it?

[504] It was like a very mild sinus infection.

[505] Basically, it's what Jamie had, basically.

[506] It started, it started in my nose, all right?

[507] And then I had a little like, I had one of those.

[508] But I immediately, from the past, any time I get sick, I'm traveling, so I know I've had, I've been sick on the road.

[509] I immediately put a nose spray, constantly cleaning and I have an inhaler like a steroid to get my lungs going so I started that the next day body felt like I was getting something and which I've had in the past almost if I don't get the chills my my skin gets really sensitive and then after that a little tired but I had I can breathe but clearly I had a sinus infection.

[510] That's the best way to describe it.

[511] Now, here's the thing, and I gave it to my wife and my youngest daughter.

[512] And my other two, my other two daughters are like, we're out of here.

[513] We're getting tested.

[514] They both negative.

[515] Shoon, they left the house.

[516] We're out of here.

[517] And they got bubbles around the head.

[518] They're wearing their space outfits.

[519] So they're gone.

[520] My youngest one comes home from school, and she has to take a test.

[521] and they say, you're positive.

[522] And she was, she clearly got sick.

[523] My wife's sick, I'm sick now.

[524] None of us, I have an infectious disease doctor in New Jersey.

[525] His specialty is infectious disease.

[526] I said, Doc, my daughter is positive.

[527] I clearly gave it to her.

[528] He goes, you need to get tests before I see you.

[529] I said, okay, well, it's a two, three -day wait.

[530] in the meantime, did you have anything?

[531] Goes, take vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc.

[532] He goes, do you have a high fever?

[533] I went, no. He goes, do you have trouble breathing?

[534] I went, no. He goes, then don't worry about it.

[535] So part of me started getting infuriated.

[536] So you're telling me the world is shutting down and you're telling me to take vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc?

[537] He goes, I need you to get the test.

[538] Okay, I'll get the test.

[539] I'm a little aggravated.

[540] I just want something to get rid of this.

[541] Right.

[542] Okay, that's all I want.

[543] Right.

[544] So now it's going on the second week.

[545] And this thing's annoying because I'm taking 2 ,000 Ds and 3 ,000 Cs and zinc and A and whatever he's telling me to.

[546] My daughter is getting better.

[547] My wife still can't, D can't smell or taste.

[548] And she's got stage four cancer.

[549] So she's like super high.

[550] She's doing great and all that.

[551] But she's doing great.

[552] She's on a trial.

[553] She's crushing it.

[554] So if anything, she's the most danger because of her immune system.

[555] Week two, I get a test.

[556] The same test I just took here, which is a very reliable test.

[557] And I told my doctor, hey, man, it's official.

[558] I test deposit.

[559] Which test did you take?

[560] I took the rapid because I can't.

[561] I don't accept that one.

[562] You don't accept that?

[563] Infectious disease doctor.

[564] You don't accept that test.

[565] What did he want?

[566] The PCR test?

[567] He wanted, yeah, whatever.

[568] He's got to go to a lab.

[569] Now, we're going on day 12.

[570] And you're still telling me to take vitamins and stuff?

[571] So finally, I said, I'm not doing that test because then I got to go in the state and the system.

[572] And they called looking for my daughter.

[573] can we speak to your daughter no you may not well is she doing the appropriate things i have it as her father well what is she doing go fuck yourself that's what she's doing you don't call my house government you just overstepped your boundaries you're just here to protect me not to come knocking on my door to ask me what i'm doing and how i'm treating my 16 year old it's a very frightening place to be.

[574] Now with that said, I then ask, hey man, what can we do?

[575] He goes, I need that other test.

[576] I'm not getting the other test.

[577] So I called a friend, said, I'll get you something by tomorrow.

[578] I got stuff by the next day, and in two days, that stuff was clear.

[579] So I started asking her, why don't people, and I just left the town of Chester, New Jersey, and there's a couple, there's about 15 of us, a group that formed this community during the whole COVID.

[580] And this one woman just got it, and she got hospitalized.

[581] And I went, whoa, what happened?

[582] And she said, I waited 12 days, and then it had a problem.

[583] I started freaking out breathing.

[584] went to the hospital, it gave me steroids and antibiotics, and it cleared right up.

[585] So my question is, why do you have to test positive to wait to get antibiotics or steroids if neither one of them hurt you or kill you while you're still waiting to see what this does?

[586] And she didn't have an answer, and she's like, that's a great question.

[587] I go, it's a simple, it's just a question.

[588] So if I'm a doctor, and Joe Rogan comes to me and says, hey man, my daughter is positive, I have sinus, are you having trouble?

[589] No, well, I can give you this, because I know it's not going to kill you, and I know it's going to give you antibiotics, and hopefully in two, three days it will clear up.

[590] But it's not going to, and if it gets worse, then we'll take care of it then.

[591] Because clearly this is not going to make you worse.

[592] So why isn't that being done?

[593] And then my other question was, if that doctor, an infectious disease doctor doesn't allow that test how many people take that test and it counts as a number but yet it doesn't count so what is really going on is my question there's a lot of confusion a massive amount of people there's a disease that kills some folks and there's a disease that we in the beginning stages of this pandemic thought was going to be far more severe than it turned to be and they never adjusted that's the problem the problem is it's still not good you know you don't want to catch COVID but the vast majority of people who get it will be fine 78 % of the people that are hospitalized are obese the obese people have a real hard time with it there's 6 % of the people who died from COVID only had COVID the other 96 % of the people who died from COVID only had COVID The other 94 % had an average of 2 .6 comorbidities, so almost three, more than two and a half comorbidities, beating like obesity, you know, there's a bunch of different things that people have.

[594] Diabetes is a big one, you know, Alzheimer's.

[595] There's a lot of, there's a lot of like comorbidities that are very dangerous if you get COVID.

[596] I'll tell you another one.

[597] So another one of our friends.

[598] His name is Rob.

[599] He's a mess, bro.

[600] Gout three times.

[601] He's a mess.

[602] He's totally heavy dude.

[603] Blah, blah, blah.

[604] Yeah.

[605] he says, don't come near me. I have a sinus infection.

[606] And we all went, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[607] Rob's off limits.

[608] You know, whoop, whoop, Rob's dying.

[609] We're laughing.

[610] Rob died.

[611] He's got.

[612] He's done.

[613] We said, you should really go check that out, Rob.

[614] We don't hear from Rob.

[615] Next time, next thing, me and Me and my wife went to Maine, went on a mountain, we were on a, we were on a lake.

[616] I felt like I was in, if I died, that is where heaven's going to be is that trip with my wife.

[617] I come back.

[618] Gee, what's going on Rob?

[619] He's in a hospital.

[620] What?

[621] He's on the, he's on the, uh, the ventilator.

[622] The ventilator one.

[623] What?

[624] Now, he was a crazy Trump guy.

[625] He was like, oh, drop, drop.

[626] He was full blown.

[627] I would go there and like, oh, my God, these guys are talking politics.

[628] I got, please get off.

[629] Every morning, it's like, the liberals, the Democrats, I was a nonstop.

[630] Like, oh, my God, I just want to have a muffin and relax.

[631] So with that, and I, dude, I got caught up too.

[632] I would be a liar if I said I wasn't caught up in some stuff for a while.

[633] I was on the internet like, dude, JFK is coming back.

[634] I was, my equal to court makes all sense of the world.

[635] I was in, right?

[636] But this guy was like, if I ever get it, I'm taking hydrochloroquine, all right?

[637] That was, that's, so now, and this is all still going, by the way.

[638] He gets admitted to the hospital, and here comes my next question.

[639] And there is an ending to the story.

[640] He gets admitted, they say he's got brain damage from COVID.

[641] It's brain damage.

[642] Well, this is the information we're getting.

[643] Like, what?

[644] What do you mean?

[645] Brain down.

[646] Yeah, he's not going to be able to walk.

[647] What?

[648] He has brain damage.

[649] Then it turned out he had strokes.

[650] The COVID caused strokes.

[651] Then it turned out, no. He asked for a specific drug.

[652] They said, we can't give it to you in the state of Jersey.

[653] And we're going to have to do testing before it could do stuff.

[654] Next thing you know, The guy's on high blood pressure, pills, and all that.

[655] They didn't give him his meds.

[656] He stroked out.

[657] Oh.

[658] Cut to, he's brain dead.

[659] His wife can't, his wife and 11 -year -old, 13 -year -old have to say goodbye to him before they pull the plug.

[660] They're not allowed to be with him.

[661] They have to FaceTime.

[662] So here's a question for you.

[663] No, this is going somewhere, bro, right?

[664] Thank God.

[665] one of our crew said please send this person there just took one last one last look the specialist shows up said he's not brain dead he's dehydrated who's been taking care of this patient and who said he was COVID I want everything gets everything said I need the wife and children in here oh well it's against star fit Again, what's keeping you safe?

[666] What's keeping you safe?

[667] Bring his family in here.

[668] His family talks to him, his heart rate starts going up.

[669] In a week, he opens his eyes and communicates for the first time.

[670] It's six weeks later, he now stands up for the first time.

[671] It was October.

[672] He finally got out, and he's still taking physical rehab.

[673] I got pictures of him, videos of him, and all that jazz, but he's recovering.

[674] So the point of my story is two things.

[675] They were ready to let him die.

[676] They were willing, they already said he's dead, and you can't visit him.

[677] Jesus Christ.

[678] So what where...

[679] What kind of fucking hospital is this?

[680] It's in New Jersey.

[681] That's crazy.

[682] But my question is this, when it comes to not being able to see elderly and elderly homes, you've got to quarantine and all that, what keeps the workers safe?

[683] What keeps the, quote, heroes safe?

[684] And why can't you allow someone with a human touch?

[685] Because when you're at your weakest moment in time, you need a human.

[686] You need pure love.

[687] You need that child.

[688] You need your mother to come visit you.

[689] They're the ones, even if you're in your house, and the fact that they are stopping that is pure evil in my mind.

[690] It has nothing to do with safety.

[691] and if it is safety then stupidity and at the end of the day it's evil there is no protocol it's stupidity in my opinion what you're saying I think they're I think in the general sense they're trying to protect people from getting infected well what keeps the people that works they're infected nothing well then what keep the tightest masks that you can but there's other things you can give it to the child and the mom and dad exactly no I'm with you I'm with you 100 % if your kid was dying Joe yeah you're going to allow them to keep you from seeing him?

[692] No, no. I'm going to do my best, right?

[693] You're going to smash that door down, bro.

[694] I'll tell you that right now.

[695] You're going to have to rest me. You're going to have to rest me. I feel the same way.

[696] I know what you're saying.

[697] You've got to question everything.

[698] But you're right about the touch, about love and about having hope and having someone come visit you.

[699] Despair is terrible for the immune system.

[700] All that stuff is to eat.

[701] Do you know what a nocebo is?

[702] You know what that means?

[703] No. It's the opposite of placebo.

[704] A placebo effect.

[705] is they give you a sugar pill and it makes you think that you're doing well and you're like oh and then all of a sudden your symptoms improve and you actually get better because your body is on a positive trip right your body's like oh jim got the medicine oh we're healing up and it literally has an actual physical measurable effect and it's called the placebo effect well there's also something that they believe is more powerful than the placebo effect and that's the nocebo effect The nocebo effect is telling someone that they have a disease, telling someone that there's an incurable disease or that they're sick, and then they fucking panic.

[706] Here's a perfect example.

[707] In 2007, there was a guy that was a part of a trial that they were doing a double -blind placebo -controlled trial on antidepressants.

[708] So they're trying to find the efficacy of antidepressants, and they give this guy these pills, and he shows up a the hospital he's got an empty bottle of pills and he goes help me help me i took all the pills i took all the pills and this guy collapses all right they bring him into the emergency room his fucking blood pressure is dangerously low his heart rate is jacked up he's pale he's sick they're like oh no and so they they find the guys uh the guy has a pill bottle they brought in with him they find the guy's physician that's a part of the clinical trial they bring the physician in the physician tells him you got the placebo there's no medication here this is these are bullshit pills there's nothing in them all of a sudden the guy gets better like that his his heart rate balances his blood pressure balances 15 minutes later he's fine the power of your mind he was convinced that he was fucked if you have someone in a hospital bed and you're telling them they're going to die and you're not going to see your family and the amount of stress and the pain Your symptoms will crash.

[709] Everything will get more fucked up.

[710] Your body will go into a total state of shock.

[711] There's been people that have died because they were incorrectly diagnosed with cancer.

[712] And they went into this shock where they can't believe that they're not going to...

[713] And then their immune system crashes, their body crashes, and then they've done autopsies, and they found out that it was benign.

[714] And this is what drives me nuts where nobody questioned...

[715] You just go, that's what they said.

[716] Dude, that's where...

[717] That's what they said, so that's what we're doing.

[718] That's what voodoo is.

[719] You know, people think that voodoo is bullshit.

[720] What voodoo is, is you tell someone, if you're a charismatic person, you have white paint on your face and fucking feathers and skulls and on sticks, and you tell them, I put a curse on you.

[721] And you believe that shit.

[722] You'll be in a full terror.

[723] Yes.

[724] You'll be in a full terror.

[725] And then your life will fall apart.

[726] My hand to God, when I start my show, I say, and I've been saying, this is the greatest voodoo trick I've seen in humanity in my entire life, because that's what it is.

[727] It's the greatest voodoo trick in history.

[728] It's mind -boggling.

[729] Now, I'm able to sit and watch it and dodge from it, but at the same time, I'm, I'm baffled how many people just don't question anything it's mind -boggling now back to what you say before this is a cool thing so I did a Metallica tour right now on this tour I start to get to know like people from around the world that go to every single Metallica show it was and they it's so wow and it's so wow and it's so cool they call themselves the Metallica fans family, which I thought was amazing, which I think is also amazing about you.

[730] Like, you have followers around the world.

[731] I think that's amazing.

[732] It's mind -boggling.

[733] You could probably tour Korea in countries you never thought you can tour in because of who you are and who listens to you.

[734] So with this Metallica thing, there's this one couple, Sarah and Pete.

[735] And Pete, the story was so, it's amazing.

[736] Pete's a vet, got his ass kicked and rack and blah, blah, blah.

[737] It came back, got in a motorcycle accident, destroyed, doesn't want to live anymore.

[738] He's stuck to a hospital bed, blah, blah, blah.

[739] She's depressed because he won't, he won't, he doesn't want to live anymore.

[740] he hears Metallic is touring and he's he said he's got brain damaged that you irreversible brain damage it's completely irreversible and so he has to get checked every six weeks and they keep saying yeah no he's man nothing's going down okay so forever this is part of the brain's going to be dead he knows Metallic is coming and she said she came home and for the first time he was trying to get up and she said what do you want he's like I want to see Metallica and she said okay well I'll bring you to Metallica she goes to Metallica brings him in the wheelchair he's got all his stuff and then she sees while she's waiting on tickets all these other Metallica fans and you know they start like oh bad dude they're taking care and they become like a little a next then they you know what and she saw how happy he was and how much life was brought to him just from seeing Metallica, right?

[741] Now with that, now she goes, maybe I should follow them.

[742] So she goes and buys come more tickets, and he's got life.

[743] Now they follow them every time they tour.

[744] And I saw them, and then they come to see me. And when I first met him, he was very subdued, very, he doesn't smile a whole lot.

[745] He's like, you know, hi, I wish she's got this big smile.

[746] She's always bringing Sunshack, great energy.

[747] By the end of the tour, as soon as the tour ended, I wish I had my email.

[748] I'm sure I could find the email.

[749] She goes, oh my God, Jim, you're not going to believe what's going on.

[750] I think we're going to the European tour.

[751] We're sorry, the U .S. tour.

[752] We're not going to see you, but the European tour.

[753] Is it why?

[754] The doctors, for the first time ever said his brain.

[755] is starting to heal itself.

[756] And they truly believe it's from going to the Metallica concerts.

[757] Maybe it's not the music.

[758] It's the community, the life, the people around him that's inspiring him.

[759] And they want to hook him up and start doing this as a test.

[760] Like, perhaps this has the power of healing.

[761] Dude, how sick is that?

[762] That's pretty sick.

[763] You know, you know how when a song comes on, you get goosebumps?

[764] Yeah.

[765] That's a drug.

[766] Of course it is.

[767] It really is.

[768] It's medicine.

[769] There's something to it.

[770] Like when a good song comes on, you're like, fuck yeah.

[771] There's songs in it.

[772] Don, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, da, gong, da, da, do you get goosebumps right now.

[773] Look at that.

[774] Look at that, goosebumps.

[775] Those are legit.

[776] Absolutely.

[777] Yeah, man, music does something.

[778] to you physically.

[779] Yes.

[780] Yeah.

[781] Absolutely.

[782] And if this guy is all the sudden around all these people, the music is doing something to him physically, and then he has a sense of community and all this fun and love and camaraderie, yeah, your fucking piston star firing.

[783] Bang, bang, bang, bang.

[784] Woo.

[785] Down, dum, dum, dum, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, don't.

[786] How'd you like talking to James?

[787] I loved it.

[788] He's cool.

[789] I loved it.

[790] He's a really cool guy.

[791] I mean, you think about a guy that has been through so much craziness like I think of fame as like redlining like redlining your personality redlining your stress levels redlining your life and so for a guy that's been like and then like okay I got to get off this ride for a little bit and then you talk to him and he's he's just aware that he redlined his life you know and apparently redlined his life again right started indulging again after that and how to stop again but to be a man that is that famous that is that universally loved to have that much pressure and attention and to live that crazy life that arena rock life of of a like you know one percent rock star like you get all the rock stars in the world metallic is like the one percent of the rock stars hands down if they said they're touring mars They're going to Mars, we're going to Mars.

[792] Someone's going to Mars.

[793] They could do a tour in the middle of Sahara Desert, and people would make it out there with water.

[794] Without a doubt.

[795] 100%.

[796] So if I can ask you, out of everyone that you've talked with, who would be like your top, like, wow.

[797] I don't.

[798] I don't.

[799] I don't.

[800] I try to.

[801] I guess that's not.

[802] I guess you wouldn't even want to answer that only because other people, instantly go.

[803] No, I mean, I would answer it.

[804] I would answer it.

[805] If people got upset, I would.

[806] But I don't have a top.

[807] Or would you learn from them.

[808] Do you learn anyone?

[809] Oh, yeah, you learned from all of them, man. I mean, I learned from Neil de Grouse Tyson, I learned from Elon Musk.

[810] I learned from Lex Friedman.

[811] I learned from all these fucking scientists and people that have had on, all these brilliant people.

[812] I learned from Matt Taibi.

[813] I learned from, I'm just so many people that I've learned from.

[814] I've had a wild fucking education, man. I've had an 11 -year education doing this podcast.

[815] 11 years now?

[816] Yeah, it's 11 years.

[817] That's a monstrosity.

[818] Yeah, it's almost 12.

[819] It'll be 12 years in December.

[820] I remember, I only been in a one UFC fight, and I don't think I need to see another.

[821] And what I mean by that is, you were like, Jim, you got to see.

[822] And I was leaving that night.

[823] I was in Vegas and I was leaving that night on a red eye And I almost didn't get out And you're like, Jim, you gotta calm that eye I just don't want you, dude Bro, you don't want to miss this one I'm like, all right, I'll be there And it was McGregor Versus Spanish name dude He wasn't supposed to be to Bill And then Nate Diaz?

[824] Yeah, Nate Diaz Yes Yeah, yeah, yeah And I'll know, I still remember that it's so vivid in my mind there was an underscore okay there was an undercard and it looked like a guy like me against this toolbox and every time the kick would hit him like I've seen on TV but when you're there where you're standing you hear like I can't smell like it's sound like a bat hitting a leg and then after three kicks I'm looking at his leg and it like someone spray painted a purple on the inside's leg.

[825] I went, oh, my God, that's got to be killing him.

[826] How's this human being standing?

[827] Oh, my God.

[828] So smack, smack, smack.

[829] And I don't even remember who won that.

[830] All I remember is the McGregor fight.

[831] And McGregor's in there, and he's definitely showboat.

[832] and I loved everything about it, right?

[833] And I'm sitting there in the front, and he comes in, and they start the first round, and I feel like Diaz had the best of him the first round.

[834] I don't remember a lot of it.

[835] But I remember the second round starting, and McGregor said something to him, like, is not the best you caught?

[836] Something like that.

[837] Did he just say that to this guy?

[838] He's trying to intimidate, but then I remember he was, getting his ass kicked.

[839] Ass kicked.

[840] And he was on the ground.

[841] It was ugly.

[842] The guy's out of crying.

[843] And he's going for the final choke him out.

[844] And his wife was right behind me. And it was like a movie.

[845] I kept looking at it.

[846] Oh, Greg.

[847] It's going to look at it.

[848] Oh, my God.

[849] This must be a horror show.

[850] Oh, my God.

[851] I'm going to come back.

[852] She covered her eyes and went, oh, my God.

[853] This is a horror show to watch your husband getting choked out And then all of a sudden, he gets out of it and he makes it to his feet.

[854] And I think three -quarters arena was from Ireland.

[855] They're like, you can't.

[856] They were going ape shit.

[857] And I remember, like the hair in my back of stand and watching this.

[858] And I remember Diaz's eyes.

[859] I'll never forget his eyes, he just, if his eyes could talk to him.

[860] they said, oh no, I'm done.

[861] Diaz?

[862] I think you got the wrong fight.

[863] You got this fight so fucked up.

[864] When Nate Diaz got on top of Conn McGregor, he fucking strangled him and Connor tapped out.

[865] No, then it wasn't that fight.

[866] Okay, it's a different fight.

[867] It was a good five, six years ago.

[868] Four years ago?

[869] Yeah, it was Nate Diaz.

[870] He's at the Chad Mendez fight.

[871] Mendez!

[872] Oh, Chad Mendez!

[873] Mendez!

[874] That's different.

[875] Okay, that makes sense.

[876] It was Mendez!

[877] Yes.

[878] And so Mendez's eyes I saw his eyes That's a different fight He went full -blown Oh God, I'm done I'm done Because McGregor from the crowd And standing up It was oh no And five seconds later He knocked him out Yeah It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen live That was a fight that Chad Mendez And his defense took late notice And he wasn't even training That's him saying He wasn't ready for it It wasn't ready for it.

[879] Yeah, and he got knocked out.

[880] But that was my only UFC fight ever got.

[881] That was a wild one to go to, man. That was a wild one.

[882] So now I'm trying to get out, and these hooligans, they're on top of the, they're in the casino, they're dancing on top of the casino.

[883] There it is.

[884] Yeah.

[885] That's your video?

[886] This is Jim's video?

[887] Oh, that's hilarious.

[888] Look at you.

[889] Dude, I can't even find this video anymore.

[890] I think I accidentally.

[891] Jamie finds everything.

[892] bro you gotta send this to me look at that this now now i got to catch a flight and i can't these these irish get out of there they were everywhere i couldn't get past them look at you i was in full -blown panic bro that was one of the greatest what were you in town doing do you remember i was doing a show which gig you doing the barrage no i can't i'm south point casino i play the locals i can't get them Marage, man. You can't get in the Marage?

[893] I'm not a Marage guy.

[894] I don't have that kind of swagger.

[895] I'll be the first to admit it.

[896] You know, I'd love to say, well, I tell you, Seasons won in me, but I can't have it.

[897] The Mirage, I said, let me check my buck.

[898] I go to South Point Casino.

[899] How is that place?

[900] Is it good?

[901] I love it.

[902] The guy that runs a place is really cool.

[903] Mike, I love playing there.

[904] Vegas is a fun place to play.

[905] It's weird now.

[906] Have you been there recently?

[907] No, but I don't gamble with you.

[908] It's starting to come back.

[909] I don't gamble either.

[910] It's starting to come back though.

[911] It's like there's people out again.

[912] I was just there for the fights last weekend.

[913] Last weekend, weekend before, whatever it was.

[914] And it was hopping again.

[915] Like there was a large amount of people driving around and it seemed very different because it's been really desolate over the last year.

[916] So the fights, no one's in the arena?

[917] No one.

[918] They're doing it at the Apex Center.

[919] The UFC has their own performance institute and across the street from the Performance Institute.

[920] They have this thing called the Apex Center.

[921] So it's a training facility on one side of it, but then inside is a small arena.

[922] It's like a smaller cage, smaller octagon, and it's, it could see if they're allowed to have a crowd.

[923] It could seat 1 ,500 people, maybe at the most, maybe not even 1 ,500.

[924] But they do the shows there with no crowd.

[925] It's wild.

[926] The show.

[927] You should see that.

[928] I'd love to.

[929] Yeah, I'd love to take you to one of those because they're not going to be around that much longer because.

[930] I'll fly in for that.

[931] They're starting to do, there's one next weekend.

[932] They're starting to do fights with crowds again.

[933] So in April 20 -something or another, what is it?

[934] What's the one that's a weekend, right?

[935] Yeah, April something, April 27th, they're doing the, the welterweight title.

[936] They're going to do that one in Tampa.

[937] Is that what it is?

[938] Jacksonville, in Jacksonville.

[939] In Jacksonville with a crowd, 15 ,000 people, which is like, holy shit, you're going full 24.

[940] God, I love Florida.

[941] I was in Florida.

[942] Florida doesn't give a fuck.

[943] I don't want to leave.

[944] That was, I felt like, you talk about refugees.

[945] Yeah.

[946] They're coming from every angle, parachuting in.

[947] Oh, yeah.

[948] We made it.

[949] Well, maybe it'll be good because they'll inject some New York into Florida, you know, more New York, like young New York and like give it some life.

[950] Because there's a little, it's a little death.

[951] There's a little stupid.

[952] Florida's got a little too much stupid, unfortunately.

[953] It's a lot of social.

[954] son.

[955] Yeah.

[956] No disrespect.

[957] A lot of elderly.

[958] There's a lot of like children of criminals.

[959] I lived there.

[960] Yeah, I know you did.

[961] It was...

[962] He started there, right?

[963] You started standing up there.

[964] Technically, yes.

[965] When I put my head down and put the ball in my hand, yeah, I started 1989 at Ron Bennington's comedy scene.

[966] Coconut's Comedy Club and St. Pete.

[967] Ron Bennington, the same Ron Bennington that's on the radio?

[968] Yes.

[969] No shit.

[970] I didn't know he had a club.

[971] He was huge.

[972] radio, monster radio guy, 98.

[973] Fesz.

[974] Yes.

[975] So he had a Ramada and Comedy Club.

[976] It was awesome.

[977] I would see Brian Regan would come through there.

[978] Dan Whitney before he was Larry the Cable Guy would come through there.

[979] Tom Rhodes would come through there.

[980] So that is where Darrell Hammond, Bill Gardell, all those guys that's kind of that area.

[981] That's the hub.

[982] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[983] And then I don't know what happened to it.

[984] But Long Island I started in and out high school, but I wasn't consistent.

[985] I remember the first time I did I played governors, my first gig and I thought I was so good.

[986] I was cocky.

[987] I was so cocky.

[988] I already thinking about the lion.

[989] The lion.

[990] Tiger, Tiger.

[991] I already thinking about the silk pants.

[992] Oh, God, yes.

[993] Oh, without a doubt, white tiger.

[994] White tiger.

[995] Like Mike Tyson.

[996] I got mad at Mike when I saw it.

[997] I went, hey, man, that's my gig.

[998] Let it by one.

[999] Eddie Murphy, red leather pants, and that white tiger.

[1000] And that's that success right there.

[1001] And I remember doing a pigeon bit, which I thought I was brilliant for coming up with.

[1002] I had this bug routine, which I thought I was brilliant.

[1003] And then I saw, like, all these other people, Like, oh, these people steal from me?

[1004] It was, and it's just like, oh.

[1005] Well, you have generic premises.

[1006] That's the thing.

[1007] Yeah.

[1008] Premises that you think.

[1009] Yeah, you think you're like, hey, I came up with that.

[1010] There was one joke that everybody had in Boston is in New Hampshire.

[1011] They had a license plate, the, you know, the logo on the license plate, they're saying was live, free or die.

[1012] And I'm like, those things are made by prisoners.

[1013] It's the most.

[1014] fucked up thing because license plates were always made by prisoners.

[1015] That was like the inside of...

[1016] Wow!

[1017] Every comic had that.

[1018] I thought it was so brilliant for thinking that up.

[1019] I think some guys had to tell me, oh, fucking a couple other guys got that joke, too.

[1020] Yeah, well, they got it from me. Clearly, they heard me talking about it in a fucking Nick's pizza place.

[1021] But being a guy that's making...

[1022] It just seems so ironic to me to be making...

[1023] Wow.

[1024] License plates to say live free or die, why you're trapped in a cage.

[1025] Or die.

[1026] Wow, that's insane.

[1027] Yeah.

[1028] Those days, man, those early days when I see kids today, like if I'll go to Kill Tony and I'll watch like the open mic guys go up and try it for like the third or fourth.

[1029] You know what Kill Tony is?

[1030] No. Tony Hitchcliffe and Brian Red Band have this really funny show where they take like a professional comical.

[1031] I've been a guest on it a couple of times out here.

[1032] And they'll have like a professional comic will sit there and then they have a band behind them that's actually Gary Clark Jr.'s band that he works with that's at Antone.

[1033] nightclub here in Austin and then comics will go up that are local or they come to try to put their name in a hat they'll pull the name out of the hat and then they bring them up on stage and they do one minute of comedy wow and sometimes it's great and sometimes it's terrible when it's terrible everybody makes fun of them and when it's great everybody makes fun of them and appraises them and says good luck and it's a great jumping off point for young up -and -common comics that's a cool idea it's a great idea it's a great show but it's also to be there and see these people at the beginning where they're trying to like figure it out and they're like yeah they're over trying yeah they don't know what they're doing i know it's cute where where's the cool areas like i i don't even know where they all i'm playing it i'm playing like uh is it outdoors i don't know what places that your place the what's it called the you don't know where you're going but you look at your phone it's uh find out where you're at the something jimmy up it's a Jamie will find out.

[1034] It's a weird name.

[1035] It's not Stubbs Amphitheater, right?

[1036] It's an amphitheater.

[1037] Oh, Nutty Brown's awesome.

[1038] Is that the place where Burr was?

[1039] Yeah, dude, you're going to love it.

[1040] It's great.

[1041] Nuddy Brown's great.

[1042] It's a beautiful amphitheater.

[1043] So it's outdoors.

[1044] Yeah, but it's warm out.

[1045] Burr pack that suck.

[1046] Yeah, it was awesome.

[1047] It was really fun.

[1048] That was one of the first shows that I got to see.

[1049] So where do you play?

[1050] Like live.

[1051] Don't you play out here?

[1052] Yeah, we've been doing stuff.

[1053] Stubs.

[1054] So Stubbs Amphitheater.

[1055] We COVID test the whole crowd.

[1056] Really?

[1057] Yep.

[1058] We get there.

[1059] The show starts at 7 .30.

[1060] People get there at like 6 .30.

[1061] There's a giant.

[1062] They got it down to a science.

[1063] They test everybody.

[1064] You go in there.

[1065] You're supposed to wear masks, but a lot of people don't.

[1066] And then you're in the crowd, and everyone's distanced.

[1067] But it's a, you know, like 400 -seat crowd.

[1068] Wow.

[1069] Yeah.

[1070] And it's great.

[1071] And that's the ones you and Dave have been doing.

[1072] Yeah.

[1073] Me and Dave and Donald Rollins.

[1074] And the other night we did it with Ron White.

[1075] Michelle Wolf's done a bunch, Mo Amher's done a bunch of them with us, and we've been having so much fun.

[1076] And then we've also been doing Vulcan Gas Company sometimes.

[1077] It's like a local place, and that they'll have local shows, like they have a show there tonight.

[1078] And, you know, fuck around there just to keep the chops loose.

[1079] And eventually I'm opening up a club here.

[1080] Are you?

[1081] Oh, yeah.

[1082] Oh, yeah, I got the ball around.

[1083] Oh, God.

[1084] I'll let you know what happens.

[1085] Let me know.

[1086] I'd love to play there.

[1087] Oh, fuck, 100%.

[1088] Yeah.

[1089] I would love to have you.

[1090] As soon as everything's up and running, I will send out the bat signal.

[1091] And I'm going to...

[1092] You're going to have an overload.

[1093] I'm trying to have an overload.

[1094] No, it's going to be an overload.

[1095] Well, I want to have an overload.

[1096] There's going to be more clubs that are opening up here, too.

[1097] They're reopening up Cap City, but it's under the helium banner.

[1098] The guy from helium.

[1099] Oh, really?

[1100] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1101] He's hit in Austin.

[1102] Yeah.

[1103] Wait a minute.

[1104] really yeah yeah very smart place to put it because there's a ton of bars and restaurants there and apparently he's going to really do it up nice and have two rooms in in that building too so he'll have a small room and a larger room and so is there a improv i feel like i was in austin is there an improv here no there's no improv there's no real comedy club here right now because cap city went under because when cap city went under because of covid i'm so stupid i was by dallas there's a dallas improv there's a houston improv that's what i did houston improv in july was fucking great, but I smoked too much weed and I got really paranoid.

[1105] I came back I came back and I was like, oh my God, I want to infect a guest.

[1106] I can't do this.

[1107] I can't be going, and I was getting tested and I was clean, but I was still like, fuck, what if I get infect somebody?

[1108] I haven't, you know what?

[1109] I think I got mine from I was, I went to Dallas, whatever that improv is, and the very last night I could have been anywhere, but I would eat by myself.

[1110] I'm totally solo.

[1111] I don't know who's opening tonight.

[1112] I don't know what's going on.

[1113] And after the last show, I went in the green room, and I was getting ready to go out, and I heard this guy.

[1114] He's like, you know what I understand tonight, man, Jim Brewer, you know, when you hear that.

[1115] And it goes, man, just that.

[1116] Man, that meant so much.

[1117] And I just, I creaked open the door.

[1118] I'm like, hey, man. You want to come back, take a picture?

[1119] I said, bring you white.

[1120] Bring you white.

[1121] He comes in.

[1122] He got you sick.

[1123] I don't know.

[1124] That guy got you sick.

[1125] I think he got me sick because.

[1126] Fucking whining, coughing, fuck.

[1127] He had a couple cocktails in him, and I could feel his breath going on me. And that's the first time I was like, oh, no. COVID breath.

[1128] But I don't know.

[1129] But that's, it was about three, four days later when it's, all right and I went oh no but who the heck knows?

[1130] I was reading an article about COVID toes I'm fine people get COVID toes what's COVID toes exactly it turns out it's not real and then in the article one of the things they said also people who don't have COVID get the same thing from walking around the house barefoot I'm like okay we're done what you got you called it you called it COVID toes and then you went into depth about these things showing pictures of people's fucked up swollen toes and then at the end of the article it says apparently people can also get this from just being barefoot so it's a barefoot thing yeah that's all it is it's a walking around barefoot banging your toes on things you stub your toes i just bang the shit out of my toe i don't even i just saw it's black toe and i don't know where i got you know what the real problem with media is the real problem with news media is that it's profitable that's the problem well the problem is it's profitable so there's a bunch of clickbait titles, and it's also very influential, right?

[1131] And because they know it's influential, they can lean the news one way or the other.

[1132] If someone could come along and have a fact -based, completely objective, research -driven, completely non -biased news program, it would be so valuable to people.

[1133] Can it exist?

[1134] I don't know.

[1135] I don't know either.

[1136] That's what they were trying to do.

[1137] That's what But they used to teach you in journalism.

[1138] But now young journalists, if you pay attention to some of the stories that come out of the New York Times or even like some of the most respected newspapers in the country, they're activists.

[1139] These people are all activists.

[1140] But this is this is a problem because they'll omit information that's contrary to what they're trying to promote.

[1141] And they're not always right.

[1142] My daughter came back from college.

[1143] Uh -oh.

[1144] Not even.

[1145] So this was, this was, let's see, she left in all.

[1146] August.

[1147] Came back October.

[1148] End of August, October.

[1149] It looked like she went to a seminar.

[1150] You weren't allowed to leave.

[1151] Her eyes were glazed over.

[1152] She was like, sexist, racist, gender, gender, gender, gender, racist.

[1153] Can't say that.

[1154] Can't say that.

[1155] LGBQ2, human rights, LGBTQ2, gender, gender.

[1156] I said good morning and this fucker was off on a tangent and i realized i'm paying 20 30 000 for my kid to get indoctrinated and brainwashed that she tried to explain to me how the indians had different genders and i went who native americans yeah i went who who tried tell me they got pictures on walls now where where the indians are drawing where they're cutting off of penis and injecting hormones?

[1157] I don't understand what does that mean?

[1158] But they did.

[1159] That that was that did that was part of Native American culture.

[1160] They cut their penis?

[1161] No, no, no, no. They didn't have operations, but there were some Native American tribe members in different, in various tribes that were thought to be, they considered them of a different sex or a different gender.

[1162] Like they had men and female and then they had males that identified as females or behaved as females and they had females that identified as males and behaved as males.

[1163] Listen, this has always been a thing with human beings.

[1164] I get that.

[1165] It was taboo and hidden for the most part.

[1166] Well, I can get it as far as if we're in a tribe, right?

[1167] Now, I know you're an alpha male.

[1168] We're alpha males.

[1169] You're more alpha male than me. So we're going to go to battle.

[1170] I'm probably going to get you, you're going to have to be the battler.

[1171] But I'm going to, I clearly know my role is to keep the, the, I have a different role.

[1172] Right.

[1173] Whatever that role is.

[1174] Some people's role is like, hey, listen, I got to stay here.

[1175] Is that what you're talking about?

[1176] Are you talking full -blown?

[1177] There was men that identified as women.

[1178] Like, it's been throughout history.

[1179] There's been males that felt like they should have been females.

[1180] They don't understand what makes a person want to be a man and what makes a person want to be a woman.

[1181] Some women wish they were men.

[1182] They feel like they should have been a man. You know, there's always been that.

[1183] Like, it's not fake, right?

[1184] There really are people that have these thoughts.

[1185] The problem is it becomes a protected subject, and then you get praised for transferring your gender, for changing your gender.

[1186] Correct.

[1187] And then it gets exciting for people to talk about, and then you get chastised for even discussing it in any weird way.

[1188] And then people who were marginalized for being, like, genuinely, dumb people if they transfer over and become another gender then they get praised like there's been a lot of people that were like idiots but then they become trans and now all of a sudden we think they're amazing correct so I'll give an example I was talking to a a person that's a therapist all right not my I don't go to a therapist not that that's good or bad I don't this person was a therapist this therapist was telling me that their child was transgender and they were worried about their son now daughter going into high school and I said I don't understand is it a sexual can you explain to me because whenever I bring it out to my daughter and the problem with it is no one knows how to talk it turns into a fight and a debate like I would ask my daughter like is it what does that mean you identify like a transvestite oh my God you know what I'm not talking I'm not even fucking talking about oh my God I'm just asking you a question they don't even know how to talk because they're indoctrated into an ideology that demands that you comply correct when I'm like let's just have a conversation like there's a transvestite that comes into our coffee shop Stop.

[1189] I don't think you're allowed to say transvestite anymore.

[1190] I just did.

[1191] I think it's...

[1192] It's a bad word now.

[1193] I'm in the 80s.

[1194] We call the transvestite.

[1195] You can't deprogram me. Can you say drag queen?

[1196] Drag queen.

[1197] Can you say it?

[1198] I just said it.

[1199] I said it too.

[1200] It's a drag queen.

[1201] What I'm saying is that like someone, are you allowed to say it?

[1202] Too bad.

[1203] Like, Miley Cyrus is really into drag queens.

[1204] Like she thinks it's hilarious.

[1205] She loves them.

[1206] Right.

[1207] She loves like drag.

[1208] What does that show?

[1209] Dragstrip?

[1210] Oh, God.

[1211] My daughter watches it.

[1212] Yeah, yeah.

[1213] They dress up like drag queens.

[1214] She loves it.

[1215] So the person goes, and I'm all for it, man, that's a lot of work.

[1216] It's a lot of work.

[1217] Yeah, you're putting in the work.

[1218] That's a lot of work.

[1219] It's Halloween every day.

[1220] You're sucking this in, pushing knees up, and wearing, Halloween every day.

[1221] Waring your big man feet and tight women.

[1222] Dude, that's a lot of work.

[1223] It's a lot of work.

[1224] Totally respect.

[1225] So with that said, I go, well, what, explain to me what, well, he started helping him.

[1226] with his hormones now I'll just say this I learned a lot about cancer because I my wife's been dealing it since 2012 and not a fact just an opinion your hormones are changed the minute you start taking the pill birth control pill yes absolutely 100%.

[1227] And if you look at when breast cancer started just rising, it's just a bizarre coincidence, the more pills we take.

[1228] That's a gazillion dollar industry.

[1229] A lot of things.

[1230] Could be a billion things.

[1231] It doesn't matter.

[1232] But I've had specialists explain to me hormones.

[1233] Once you start messing with hormones, it's like it wakes cancer up and it waits and it hangs out in your body.

[1234] And then why women often get it at a certain age is because your hormones start changing again.

[1235] And just like Pac -Man, it comes alive.

[1236] Like, ah, I remember you, remember when you made me alive and born?

[1237] Well, now I'm back because you fucked with the hormones.

[1238] So when I asked this person, of course, I didn't bring anus up, I was just, I just couldn't believe that I could tell you, So I said, what exactly made your son want to gender?

[1239] It's a sexual thing.

[1240] Did he see pornography?

[1241] Did he?

[1242] Because that's another thing.

[1243] People don't want to admit.

[1244] When you see porn as a kid, I was traumatized.

[1245] The first time I saw him porn, you know, I'm playing Godzilla and Pac -Man.

[1246] And the next thing, you know, is, oh, my God, what?

[1247] I never looked at anything.

[1248] banging pillows and a savage comes out of you like i never even thought of sticking my it just it alters your mind and everything and it's extremely addicting so with that i'm asking them like she said no he didn't he didn't like his penis he just never liked his penis store it was ugly and i wanted to say did you ever talk to him and say well Well, just like the ugly duckling, the ugly duckling was very ugly and didn't like his penis and didn't really understand why his penis existed because he's five years old.

[1249] And then by the time he's seven, eight years old, you start explaining that, hey, the penis is going to maybe, you know, hey, there's some good things.

[1250] There's going to be times you can have to piss really bad and you're going to enjoy that penis and you're out in the bushes and you pee while you have to go.

[1251] This is the weirdest ugly duckling story.

[1252] Yeah, yeah.

[1253] Imagine if your dad is telling you the ugly duckling story.

[1254] story about dicks and you're like what are you trying to say dad your dad's gym brew just say it dad but my the point is like did you i'm sure they had conversations but her her conversation ended by just saying no he just never liked his penis he never liked his penis he never liked his penis i'm like and i'm not to judge but i just find it extremely dangerous unless your child is in a situation where there may die well there's no situation where you may die if you don't change your gender unless you're talking about suicide no I'm saying to change your body's chemistry because another thing is I've had I've I've I've I've dealt with teenagers that are addicts and visit and they'll clearly tell you the reason why drugs and alcohol are so bad at you at the age of 13, 14, 15, because your brain is not developed.

[1255] Yeah.

[1256] And it will affect your brain.

[1257] So if your brain, and they say you really can't make 100 % conscious decisions until you're between whatever.

[1258] They think it's 25.

[1259] Let's say it's 21.

[1260] Yeah.

[1261] But why is that?

[1262] But so I just question not anyone out there.

[1263] Right.

[1264] Why can you change your gender?

[1265] Why would you do it as a child?

[1266] There's no good answer.

[1267] There is no good answer.

[1268] This is one of those things.

[1269] But it's one of those things where if you bring it up for the health.

[1270] There's the ideology.

[1271] One ideology is that this person has always been a girl and that they know by the time they're two and you should get them on hormone blockers as quickly as you can.

[1272] So you can change their gender as quickly as you can.

[1273] And then there's another idea.

[1274] theology that says, hey, wait a minute, you are doing something that, first of all, is very recent in terms of medical science.

[1275] They haven't been around that long in terms of these gender or these hormone blockers, and you're allowing children to make decisions at a very young age that will affect them literally for the rest of their life, and it's not like it's a 100 % success rate.

[1276] There's a lot of kids who go through gender reassignment surgery that are very regretful.

[1277] There's websites dedicated to it.

[1278] you could read all these personal accounts it's if there was a thing that always worked like every time you did it and like oh they feel so much better like it's i'm not making a comparison in terms of the same thing but here's a good example if someone wanted a nose job like maybe someone has a really fucked up nose a deformed hump on their nose and you take that thing down and then they look much better and they're much happier right and most good nose jobs i bet do have a positive success rate in terms of like positive feeling after it's done like sure I'm so happy I got that crazy fucking hook fixed on the top of my nose yeah that this is not that this is something way more complex and it's also there's been studies that show that for some of these people that don't transition that wanted to transition when they're young they wind up just becoming gay as they get older and there's nothing wrong with that either right there's You know, human beings, if they want to do this as they're an adult and they know for a fact they want to do it as an adult, then they should be able to make their own choices.

[1279] But when you're talking about really young children, and then you have all this reinforcement from people and trans activists and people that literally encourage people to do this, it's your make, you don't know.

[1280] You can't quantify what's going on inside of a person's mind.

[1281] the problem is I think for some people it is the right choice for some people if you got them on hormone blockers and then they became they transitioned to be a woman they might ultimately be happier that's that's real possible but they might not too and so when you're in this situation where you're talking about a minor and you use absolutes like they this is where they want to be this is their true gender this is what they should do and then you encourage them and you lead them along you're in this weird place when you talk with young people you can encourage young people do a lot of things because they're very malleable young people are very easily influenced and they're also you know there's a book written by this woman abigail schreyer it's called irreversible damage and it's about this and it's about young girls in particular that there's been an uptick of over i think i believe it's over a thousand percent of kids identifying particularly girls identifying as trans when they're in high school they call it's called rapid onset gender dysphoria where these girls a lot of times socially awkward girls a lot of times girls who you know may be on the spectrum they may have issues and they they get together and decide in clusters that they're trans and it's it's very strange and statistically speaking it doesn't necessarily make sense if you think about like how many people like out of a you know a hundred would would would naturally be trans or out of a thousand or out of a million it's much higher than that for the for these groups and they feel like they're being influenced by social pressures, and they're making these decisions that they don't even have to have their parents involved.

[1282] Like in some states, you can actively begin taking testosterone, and you can even get gender reassignment surgery on your own without your parents giving permission when you're 15, which is crazy.

[1283] And, you know, when you're 15, you're not even supposed to be admitted to a hospital with an injury without parental consent, But yet they're allowing these people to have gender reassignment surgery without, you know, consulting other people in their family, without consulting their parental guides.

[1284] You can't drink.

[1285] You can't drive.

[1286] You can't do anything.

[1287] But you can go and have gender reassignment surgery.

[1288] And a lot of people have issue with that.

[1289] It's a super, super touchy subject.

[1290] But why is it touchy?

[1291] Well, this is the problem because they don't want anyone saying anything that's contrary to the narrative that they're trying to push out, which is that it should be encouraged for anybody.

[1292] wants it.

[1293] They should get them on hormone blockers.

[1294] There was another thing they were trying to say for a while, but they finally had to admit.

[1295] They were trying to say that if you get someone on hormone blockers when they're young and they change their mind and decide to be the sex that they were born with, that there will be no damage.

[1296] Now they're saying, no, it's not true.

[1297] Now they're saying, you will definitely change the way that person develops and grows, and they will have damage.

[1298] So, like, this is obvious to anybody that knows anything about the human body and about hormones, but they were trying to pretend that it wouldn't have any effect on them.

[1299] This is why I always, like, where does this start?

[1300] Does it start with a mad scientist?

[1301] No, it starts in universities.

[1302] There's a lot of it.

[1303] A lot of it starts with people that don't, they don't live in the real world, and they live in these super -insulated liberal environments like universities.

[1304] And they teach kids.

[1305] Well, people who pay to have their kids go there, or people that are kids that get student loans.

[1306] I mean, that's, if no one's paying, the university goes under, you know, I mean, but they are subsidized by the governments.

[1307] It's one of the reasons why student loans are so expensive.

[1308] Okay, so if you're subsidized, subsidized, subsidized by the government, wouldn't it eventually come from somewhere and there?

[1309] Yeah, it's not a plan.

[1310] Like, who creates education?

[1311] It's not a plot.

[1312] I know what you're saying.

[1313] No, no, no, no. But who creates a symptom of the fact that these people don't compete in the real world.

[1314] They don't exist in the real world.

[1315] They teach in universities.

[1316] They get tenure.

[1317] And there's an overwhelming liberal bias in education, like overwhelming.

[1318] Why do you think that is?

[1319] It's a lot.

[1320] I think in terms of education, like the type of people that wind up doing that are the type of people that go to school, they get indoctrated into that environment, and then they wind up teaching.

[1321] So they don't really leave.

[1322] They stay in this mindset.

[1323] And it's very much like any other.

[1324] ideological mindset, whether it's a religion or a cult or liberal thinking that mirrors religion in a lot of ways because there's no compromise.

[1325] You're compelled to think a certain way and you're criticized and ostracized if you don't comply.

[1326] It's mandatory compliance to think along certain lines.

[1327] And they also make you think along lines where you know that it's not logical you know it's not correct like a big one is transgender athletes they try to say like do you know this or this in high school in connecticut 15 state championship titles 15 records are being held by two biological males in Connecticut yeah it's bananas everybody knows it's bananas but yet they're saying like scientific america just had a story about it like we must allow transgender athletes to compete in the sex that they identify with.

[1328] Well, no, that's crazy.

[1329] No, we must not allow that because we must protect biological women.

[1330] There's a reason why biological males are not allowed to compete with biological women is because they have certain physical advantages.

[1331] That's why we have boy sports and girl sports.

[1332] Now, just because someone identifies as being trans, should we treat them like they're a woman or treat them like they're a boy?

[1333] Yes, we should.

[1334] But we should recognize that when we're talking about athletic competition, that we're dealing with a completely different thing.

[1335] We're dealing with physical bodies competing against other physical bodies.

[1336] And yes, there's a spectrum in physical bodies.

[1337] And there's some women that are going to be superior athletically.

[1338] And there's some women that just they just don't have good bodies for sports.

[1339] The same thing with males.

[1340] And that the spectrum, the difference in the spectrum is if you took like a world -class sprinter, world -class sprinter is a woman top of the food chain Olympic gold medalist there are high school athletes that will bury her as males male high school athletes built differently that you can take the best sprinter in the world and you'll find a hundred male high school 15 year olds who will leave her in the dust right because they're built differently this is this is when I go into the system of everything it's so bizarre to me. Like when I was in, I always question, you know, my kids come home from school.

[1341] And I go, why are you, like, why are they learning what they're learning?

[1342] 90 % of it, if you ask me, makes zero sense.

[1343] Zero sense.

[1344] So if you're not, and here, I, I, I, you know, all over the place.

[1345] Even when I was years ago, you know what, in my opinion, I believe you create something If I create a drug Or if I create a procedure I need to sell it somehow to make money So how do I get it out there I got to come up with a A disease or a Everyone today has a Has something late Oh your child has X YC I know a I know a lot of people ADHD.

[1346] I say ADHD back in the day was called I'm bored from the bullshit because many kids you can take ADHD and they may not be good learners because what you're shoving down their throat is boring as fuck is not only boring but they know it has no substance or nothing that will prep them for anything that's real in human soul existence.

[1347] There's a lot of debate about that stuff, too.

[1348] It's not a debate.

[1349] It's common sense.

[1350] But there's a lot of debate about whether or not that's a real thing.

[1351] So then what do they do?

[1352] They drug your child and they purposely start with the, you know, your child would do so much better if it's just, it's a simple drug.

[1353] So they started diseasing and drugging your children at a very young age.

[1354] And every time they got a new drug and a new something, it seems that it's infiltrate, it's put out, it's sold, and you need to, and you need to create something to sell it.

[1355] And I just sit back, I watch, if I say something, I'm a conspiracy guy, but I do feel we're coming to a head either we need to start thinking and questioning.

[1356] everything, or we're heading in a wacky, wacky new world.

[1357] We are in a wacky new world.

[1358] This is the matrix.

[1359] It is.

[1360] Yeah, and we're actually moving into the matrix, which is even crazy because people are getting closer and closer to an electronic reality where you're completely connected all the time.

[1361] If you were to take away all visual, all visual, all audio, I guarantee you 90 % of what goes on to it wouldn't exist.

[1362] Wouldn't exist.

[1363] You mean in terms of like a lot of the wacky social shit?

[1364] All of it.

[1365] Not necessarily.

[1366] People wouldn't be running around.

[1367] There was a lot of craziness in the universities in the 60s during the Vietnam War protest.

[1368] Even before then, the humanity.

[1369] You asked me something really interesting last time we hear like, if you had to go back in time, or if you had one question, and my question was, when did this?

[1370] all so when was the first movement of you need schools what you need a school for if we're living off the land and we just got to eat and take care of one another what do you need a school for to make money well money's not necessarily just that because people have accumulated information it's very difficult to find you got to get it all in one place and the best way to have it taught is have it taught by someone who's a professional intellectual like someone who's actually been studying all this stuff all day long most people you You have a craft.

[1371] Like, say if you're a blacksmith.

[1372] Right.

[1373] If you're a blacksmith and you make horseshoes or knives or whatever the fuck you make, you don't have the time to acquire all of Galileo's theories and writings.

[1374] Right, right.

[1375] Listen to what Newton had to say about gravity.

[1376] You don't have time.

[1377] Right.

[1378] You don't have time for any of that shit.

[1379] Darwin's theory.

[1380] You're not going to study evolution.

[1381] You don't have time.

[1382] So you want to bring your children.

[1383] You want to have people educated by someone who's a professional intellect.

[1384] So someone who's been studying these thoughts and concepts.

[1385] and knows how to teach them.

[1386] The problem is, then they also have immense power over children, right?

[1387] Because the children listen to them, look up to them, and a lot of them have immense egos because of the fact they have this immense power.

[1388] A lot of them also are in a position of power for the first time in their life.

[1389] So much like a newly famous person that wants a white tiger, they become indoctrinated into this world of power and attention.

[1390] And so then they demand compliance in this life.

[1391] ideology the teaching to children.

[1392] And then those children eventually get jobs at the university and some of them become professors themselves.

[1393] And so they continually perpetuate this world that they were indoctrinated into.

[1394] And this world is extremely left wing.

[1395] You know, there's, and they feel like they should be able to do these things here.

[1396] Do you remember there was a lady that got in trouble a few years back because she was on a university campus and And they were, this was when they first started doing safe spaces.

[1397] They first started doing these safe spaces.

[1398] God.

[1399] One kid who was an Asian kid was filming this safe space.

[1400] And this woman who was a professor was yelling at him to put the camera down.

[1401] He's like, I'm reporting for the school.

[1402] Like this is what I do.

[1403] I'm a journalist, you know, under training.

[1404] I'm training to be a journalist.

[1405] Yeah.

[1406] She yells at him.

[1407] She says, you know, this is a safe space.

[1408] There's no cameras.

[1409] you can't use.

[1410] They're outside too, by the way.

[1411] And then she said, can I get some muscle over here to handle this?

[1412] So she starts calling for reinforcement of her ideas.

[1413] She's telling this guy.

[1414] And then she's calling for people to come.

[1415] She literally asked for muscle to come and help her physically intimidate this guy to stop him because she's saying a bunch of ridiculous shit and he's filming it.

[1416] So he puts it online.

[1417] And she winds up having to apologize and everybody freaks out.

[1418] But this is what people do when they can't get completely.

[1419] compliance.

[1420] They want to bring in thugs.

[1421] This is what's so dangerous, because all of our, all this fucking crazy socialist, communist, Marxist, shit that people are being taught in universally, we know where this goes.

[1422] If you study Stalin, this ultimately goes to someone enforcing these ideas, whether it's through Russia, you know, the way the Russians did it or the way the Chinese did it.

[1423] When they want compliance, there's only one way to stop the people that resist.

[1424] You have to use force.

[1425] Force.

[1426] I'll tell you what.

[1427] This woman immediately went to force.

[1428] Can I get some muscle?

[1429] This is the way the human mind works.

[1430] And you're trying to tell people what to do and they don't want to listen.

[1431] And you have other people that are willing to, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we take care of this.

[1432] We'll take care of it.

[1433] You have more important things to do, like safe spaces.

[1434] We'll just beat the fuck out of this journalist student and let him know and teach him.

[1435] We don't take care of our journalists don't, they're not allowed to film the things that are uncomfortable.

[1436] It's insanity.

[1437] Yeah, it's insanity.

[1438] I have a guy, one of my, I don't want to say what he does.

[1439] I have an acquaintance from Korea, an acquaintance from Portugal and Romania.

[1440] And all three have said the same thing in pure terror.

[1441] Yeah.

[1442] They all have said, you, meaning America, have no clue what's going on right now.

[1443] you are worse than just sitting ducks because you're so compliant and you don't even know it's happening this has been in the works for 20 to 30 years they started with education they got the media they got the judges they got the lawmakers you guys are doomed i don't think it's a conspiracy i know it sounds ridiculous but i don't but i don't think that it's happening because of a conspiracy i think this happens at the end of every civilization's reign and i I think this happened with the Greeks, and it happened with the Romans.

[1444] It's one of the things that Douglas Murray, when I had them on my podcast, was discussing, he said one of the things that happens at the end of civilizations is they become obsessed with gender.

[1445] It's a thing that happens where men start becoming women, women start becoming men, and it becomes a big focus, like cross -dressing and all this stuff, becomes a big point of focus.

[1446] And I was like, well, why is that?

[1447] It seems to be that they're dissolving all boundaries and all norms and all society.

[1448] structure and that's a part of it.

[1449] It's like gender roles.

[1450] When you say, this is what I learned about television too.

[1451] I would like anyone to just, I always say, look at all the TV shows and you tell me out of all the shows that are out there, all the channels, who's the strong smart male?

[1452] There's not a lot of that.

[1453] Why do you think that is?

[1454] Who programs the programs?

[1455] Who puts on programming?

[1456] Who runs big networks?

[1457] And who's putting on show after show after show with a specific line of entertainment that is constantly pumped into the system?

[1458] It's because they're trying to be successful, okay?

[1459] They're trying to tell stories.

[1460] And, like, the best way to get something on the air, if you're going to do a comedy in particular, is to have the bumbling male, like the Al Bundy, like, he's falling apart.

[1461] And then you have, you know, like, those.

[1462] Those themes exist over and over and over again.

[1463] But then some people tell me this, I'll go, well, I'll say, if you think news is really good, if they really cared about humanity, they would say, hey, man, start loving people, start taking care of your body, and maybe we could, none of it's all just hate division.

[1464] But what, but here the answer is always, well, it's because the entertainment, but they don't allow any other view.

[1465] so therefore it's almost like you're programmed yeah this is why you're you don't even the other side's never even had a chance well if you're in the bubble of Hollywood right see this is the thing it's like thought contagions if you're in the left wing Hollywood bubble everyone like if you ever been on a conference call with a bunch of Hollywood people and they'll say wacky shit I mean I've I've heard people say especially people that are hmm let's put it this way pro israel They will say a lot of crazy shit about Arabs or about Palestinians, and you'll go like, whoa, like, imagine if someone was recording this.

[1466] Right.

[1467] Like this, like, you're assuming everyone's on the same page.

[1468] And this is years ago, and generally in response to something in the news, but you're assumed, like, there's an ideology that everyone subscribes to, and that ideology is extremely left wing.

[1469] it's extremely left wing and it's all negative like you could not be in a meeting seven eight months ago and and have pro -trump rhetoric in a Hollywood meeting to pitch a show they didn't care how good your show was you're done you're done get out of here like you could be the nicest guy in the world right but if you have some sort of a message about Trump well here's the thing people don't know about Trump you know unemployment among black families is lower than it's ever been before jobless having jobs are higher there's less crime that the economy that the economy is better, and as the economy does better, all the communities do better.

[1470] If you started saying things like that, they would kick you out of the office.

[1471] They don't give a fuck about that.

[1472] The ideology is very left -wing, and so they feed off of this, and then they are producing the new shows.

[1473] So if they're producing the new shows, they think they're doing the right thing.

[1474] Like, they all do.

[1475] Like, people used to say, oh, TV shows, you know, they're programming these TV shows because they're trying to warp your mind to listen to me. The people who are making those TV shows are just as influenced by the shit they're doing.

[1476] They believe all that shit.

[1477] They're stuck in it.

[1478] They're not like masterminds.

[1479] Right, right, right, right.

[1480] I am the puppet master.

[1481] I'm manipulating the people.

[1482] No, no, no. They are just as balls deep in that fucking loony world as the people that they're selling it to.

[1483] You're right, you're right.

[1484] So what else you got then?

[1485] You got Fox News.

[1486] You got wacky shit like Newsmax or O -A -N.

[1487] the One American Network.

[1488] You're like, oh, I don't watch anything.

[1489] You know, you don't have a Rand Paul network, right?

[1490] You don't have a guy who's like a reasonable, yes, very reasonable Republican.

[1491] Yes.

[1492] You know, and, you know, he has some really good points.

[1493] He's like talking about people wearing two masks that have been fully vaccinated, and he said, it's theater.

[1494] He said to Fauci.

[1495] It's pure theater.

[1496] There's a lot of it.

[1497] There's a lot of letting people know I am doing this double mask thing because this is what good people do.

[1498] Why don't you wear five masks?

[1499] and I don't have to wear any So you'll be fully masked up You don't care what happens with me And don't worry about it, you're good I was on the plane And I started asking the nurse And I said, so I'm on the plane And we're in a tube And you take off the mast to eat And take off the mass to eat And the air above me is going And so and she's well It's theater And they go well The air in the in the plane is, has a negative effect, like, no, so if this guy sneezes, I'm not going to get it because then we don't have to wear a mask if it's the air.

[1500] If it's the air and a plane is safe, well then why we wear a mask?

[1501] My friend Cody Garbrandt got kicked off a plane because his two -year -old son wouldn't keep his mask on.

[1502] What airline?

[1503] So they, Southwest.

[1504] They took him off the plane, but he was throwing a fit, and he went into the cockpit and filmed both of the pilots.

[1505] who didn't have masks on.

[1506] And he said, we're all breathing the same fucking air and you guys don't even have masks on.

[1507] This is crazy.

[1508] I have a friend that...

[1509] A baby.

[1510] Well, the new thing is, if you don't get a vaccine because people now saying you can't continue working.

[1511] Who's saying that?

[1512] I have a friend who works for...

[1513] Something.

[1514] Something.

[1515] And she said...

[1516] They said that you have to be fully back.

[1517] be vaccinated there's hospitals doing it there's doctors doing it so here's the thing if you don't know the effect and you can't you can't sue any of this trial because at the end day it's a trial i believe i don't i don't think it's i think they admit they don't know we don't 100 % know whatever it is if i do have an effect should i if i'm coming to work for joe rogan and joe goes Jim, listen there.

[1518] They said you need to get vaccinated.

[1519] And you get vaccinated and there's a negative.

[1520] And there's a negative.

[1521] I should be able to come after you.

[1522] I think I would be the only person you could come after.

[1523] Because I don't think you can come after the company that makes them.

[1524] No, they made it clear you can't.

[1525] No, you can't.

[1526] You know what, man?

[1527] That's where we're going.

[1528] What Rand Paul was saying to Fauci was that when people have got the virus and got over it, even the small amount of cases where people did.

[1529] get reinfected.

[1530] It was very mild.

[1531] And he was pointing out the fact that you keep these antibodies for a long time.

[1532] And they're showing people, Jamie has antibodies from October.

[1533] So here we are in March.

[1534] It's almost April.

[1535] And Jamie still has his antibodies from many months ago.

[1536] But now what were you watching?

[1537] What were you showing me with Rand Paul?

[1538] Is Rand Paul talking to Fauci?

[1539] On what?

[1540] It's in the Senate.

[1541] Okay.

[1542] But here's how the media works.

[1543] They're not going to show that.

[1544] They're going to show Fauci saying well it's whatever because he was throwing smoke screens he was throwing tear gas well he was dancing around a circle hold on he was responding he was responding to criticism from a politician that was questioning why Fauci was in in Rand Paul's opinion spreading doom and gloom because he was saying you're going to have to wear masks for years and he's saying why are you saying that is he said if you want people to get vaccinated what you should should be saying is when you get vaccinated you no longer have to wear a mask because what we're looking at when he said in terms of the data that we're aware of people post infection getting reinfected is extremely rare and when they do get reinfected it's much more mild he talked about the data that shows that people are showing that they have these antibodies five eight months after infection just like jamie does me and they're saying and what he was saying is you are the voice of doom and gloom.

[1545] One of the things that Fauci said that drives me crazy he said, we're not going to be shaking hands anymore.

[1546] Like, what do the...

[1547] Yes, we are.

[1548] Yes, we are.

[1549] Yes, we are going to shake hands.

[1550] What he constantly was questioned...

[1551] Run Paul?

[1552] Is that...

[1553] Yeah, Rand Paul.

[1554] I try to tap as much.

[1555] He kept questioning, you, Fauci, are talking about the science.

[1556] What science do you have?

[1557] And he wouldn't answer the question.

[1558] He kept dancing in circles.

[1559] He didn't have...

[1560] He did not have a sign.

[1561] He said, if let's look at the science proves X, Y, and Z, you're doing theater.

[1562] And every time he kept saying that, Fauci kept dancing and would not answer the question.

[1563] But what you'll see on media later today, I guarantee you, will be Fauci with something he says as to, oh, Fauci says we need to X, Y, Z. And they won't show an inkling of that brilliant, very well.

[1564] But they did, they wouldn't be, they wouldn't be full.

[1565] That's mind control.

[1566] That's mind control.

[1567] That's not entertainment.

[1568] That's mind control.

[1569] That's a crime on humanity's mind.

[1570] And you know when this began?

[1571] When?

[1572] Years ago.

[1573] Should we get high now?

[1574] I'm already high naturally.

[1575] You want to?

[1576] Knock it out.

[1577] We get it into this mind control talk.

[1578] Bro.

[1579] But listen to me. Yeah.

[1580] Why did it?

[1581] If you go to the airport, I don't have a choice of what.

[1582] what's playing at every gate.

[1583] It's always CNN.

[1584] Why?

[1585] Because they're trying to...

[1586] It's mind control.

[1587] No, they're trying to give you the news before you get on a plane.

[1588] No, they're mind controlling you.

[1589] That's a crime on humanity.

[1590] I should not...

[1591] That's a push.

[1592] You're pushing it a little bit, I think.

[1593] You may think so.

[1594] Listen, put on something neutral.

[1595] It doesn't make you talk.

[1596] Sometimes it's too loud.

[1597] I can't even hear myself.

[1598] I'm forced to go there.

[1599] Otherwise, now I've got to go to the food.

[1600] Why would you have...

[1601] televisions blaring news at gates with children and families of people that have no interest of what's going on.

[1602] I should not be forced to have this eye pornography and ear pornography.

[1603] So what do you think they should do?

[1604] It shouldn't be there.

[1605] Case closed.

[1606] No TV.

[1607] If you're going to have TV, put flowers and ducks and puppies.

[1608] But what if they do have to show you some news?

[1609] Like, what if a super volcano erupted and all flights are canceled and they just want to inform people?

[1610] What do we do 40 years ago?

[1611] Your flights cancel.

[1612] Why?

[1613] I heard what's going on.

[1614] It's not going to affect your life.

[1615] Is your life going to change that second?

[1616] I think some people like watching the news.

[1617] Because they've been indoctrinated.

[1618] Yeah, when they think that CNN is an unbiased source of news.

[1619] Oh, I'm not saying, I'm saying any news.

[1620] It should not be up to it.

[1621] It's a mind crime.

[1622] It's a crime on humanity's mind.

[1623] I think there's an argument for that.

[1624] There's an argument that you shouldn't...

[1625] Yeah.

[1626] If I'm watching people getting blown up a shit or they're telling me, this one's an asshole or that one, I'm telling you, this one's...

[1627] Right.

[1628] To be, you're telling everyone at that gate.

[1629] And as much as it drives me nuts and people go, well, we have a mind with their own.

[1630] Yeah, but not when it's manipulated 24 -7.

[1631] There's a good argument about the airport thing, because you really can't escape it, right?

[1632] because it's a one, it's a rare moment when you're just sitting down in a place where you didn't choose to be at the news place, you choose to be at the plane place.

[1633] I'm here to get on a plane.

[1634] I'm not here to take in the news.

[1635] I like this one too.

[1636] Like, you, you, you said, you, I like this one.

[1637] If you wear a mask on a plane, if you don't want to wear a mask, they say, you volunteered, you agreed to wear the mask.

[1638] I had no choice.

[1639] The airlines say...

[1640] Why did they say that to you that you agreed?

[1641] They don't say you agreed.

[1642] No, there's videos that people get kicked off the plane.

[1643] People are like, you agreed.

[1644] You agreed.

[1645] Before you go on the plane, you'll wear the mask.

[1646] I had no choice.

[1647] If you don't wear the mask, they won't let you on the plane.

[1648] They don't let you on the plane.

[1649] The problem with it is...

[1650] So now they're controlling you where you go.

[1651] What the problem is, even if you do wear the mask, if you take it off to eat, all bets are off.

[1652] Because now we're in nonsense land.

[1653] We're nonsense let Listen, I tell everyone Just change All you got to do is Just change it to accent We have no rules and recollections The following is for your safety It starts making more It makes a lot more sense When you start doing that You know what's weird Is that All the social distancing and masks And all this shit It seems to have worked for the flu The flu is At the lowest rate that it's ever been from recorded history.

[1654] So it's really, it's wild.

[1655] So it's like one or two things has happened.

[1656] Either COVID is so fucking contagious that it transfers even when people are wearing masks and social distancing.

[1657] It's still making its way through the population, which is what you see in California, right?

[1658] Because California's had the strictest COVID lockdowns and the longest.

[1659] But they have really high levels of COVID infection.

[1660] They've had terrible results with their lockdowns, and then the economic results is the worst by far.

[1661] I mean, they've doubled more than doubled their unemployment rate.

[1662] It's fucking chaos in terms of homeless people.

[1663] 75 % of all L .A. restaurants are gone forever.

[1664] I mean, it's a fucking wreck.

[1665] It's a wreck.

[1666] But if you look at the flu, the flu just, it worked on the flu.

[1667] So what is it?

[1668] Is it that these masks and social distancing are super effective?

[1669] with the flu because the flu is just not quite as contagious so it just knocked it dead is that what it is or or is it that a lot of people got both they got covid and they got the flu and it accentuated their illness and when we looked at it we said oh this is a COVID infection but is it a COVID infection plus a flu infection because it might be that because that's one of the things that does happen to people that get the flu right one of the things that happens in people to get the flu they can also get pneumonia they can get a lot of other conditions bronchitis yeah a lot of other things happen.

[1670] And especially when you're dealing with infectious diseases and you have a compromised immune system.

[1671] If you have the flu, man, your immune system's compromised.

[1672] And if you have COVID and the flu, the thing is they're going to put the attention on COVID because COVID is the big one.

[1673] That's the big one that's in the news.

[1674] And unless you're dying, take vitamin C, D, and zinc according to infectious disease doctor.

[1675] Yeah.

[1676] Well, most, you shouldn't just take zinc.

[1677] You should take zinc with something so that it gets into your cells better.

[1678] And if you're going to take D, you should take D with K. I'll say I definitely tightened up.

[1679] I got healthier.

[1680] It made me think about how many times I shoved my fingers in my mouth.

[1681] I tell you that, not my nose in my mouth.

[1682] Touch your face.

[1683] Touch my face.

[1684] Touch my eyes, all that jazz.

[1685] Maybe think that way, but whatever.

[1686] Yeah, it's the fucking immune system.

[1687] It wasn't very funny.

[1688] I apologize.

[1689] You were funny for a long time.

[1690] You just got a little crazy when we got to COVID.

[1691] Is it crazy?

[1692] No. But it is crazy.

[1693] Here's what drives me nuts.

[1694] Life is crazy.

[1695] Yeah.

[1696] is crazy.

[1697] I'm saddened.

[1698] My rage against the machine is anything that I feel is unjust and you're taking advantage of humanity.

[1699] That makes me foam at the mouth angry and that goes from faith.

[1700] It makes me nuts.

[1701] Makes me knots.

[1702] It used to be fuck you, I won't do what you tell me. Now it's fuck you You better do what they tell you Dude, can I tell you what a fucking Isn't that I was?

[1703] That's what it is It's now you have to do what they tell you They were a month away from a comeback Before the shutdown happened Were they?

[1704] They're supposed to play a Coachella in April Whoa Bro in June I was This is what a knucklehead I am With Zach Dilarocho The whole deal?

[1705] He's right They're going to do a tour everywhere Because I was ready to go see it I was ready to go see it.

[1706] Well, in, I think it was June, May of June, now I live in this little town, Chester, New Jersey, and I'm driving through town.

[1707] I've got my windows rolled down, and I purposely would keep that.

[1708] Now they do it the told you.

[1709] Now you do it they told you.

[1710] And I'm going, and I would do this, like, on a daily basis.

[1711] And I'm going, what am I?

[1712] When am I 14?

[1713] Like, am I really?

[1714] And I'm blasting it.

[1715] And these little families like going to antique stores.

[1716] But it's just, this is, it made me, my kids sat me down like, Dad, you got a, you're nuts.

[1717] You're full -blown knots.

[1718] What I'm worried is you and I are in our 50s and we're looking at this like guys who are older, who are looking at the kids coming up today and going, what the fuck are they doing?

[1719] I'm worried that the kids that are coming up that don't recognize that they are being mentally manipulated and the narrative is being controlled by the media and it's being perpetrated by the institutions and by the universities and that this woke narrative that keeps getting spread through all these kids and if you don't comply people will call you the worst things in the world like you're a racist you're a homophobe you're a bigot and nobody wants to be any of those things so you will comply just so that you don't fall out of favor with these people that these poor kids won't have the opportunity to think for themselves that they'll be so trapped in this ideology that we are dealing with something like communist Russia we are dealing with a controlled population that is totally adherent to an ideology they're totally compliant to this ideology I'm scared of that bad because that's that could be what's bubbling up right now, but we won't know until it's too late.

[1720] When all this shit was going on in the universities, I was complaining about it years ago.

[1721] And I remember people saying, why do you care what's happening in universities?

[1722] You're a comedian living in Los Angeles, and you're caring about these arguments in universities where they're shutting down conservative speakers and blowing bullhorns and setting off fire alarms.

[1723] I'm like, this is thought control.

[1724] Thank you.

[1725] They're controlling the way these children see the world, and they're forcing compliance to this one ideology, whereas school is supposed to be about ideas competing.

[1726] Yes.

[1727] It's supposed to be the battleground of ideas, and you're supposed to be uncomfortable, and you're supposed to learn from things in these uncomfortable environments where people discuss things, and you get to hear one person's perspective versus another person's perspective.

[1728] Is there nothing more excited if we had four or five of us, and we have all different views?

[1729] and we're just hanging out and we're just talking and, you know, I'm not really into what this one's saying, but like, ah, you know what, I get it.

[1730] I get where you're at that doesn't exist anymore.

[1731] No, it doesn't exist very often in very many places.

[1732] I try to be as open -minded as possible with things while still having my own opinions.

[1733] But I try to, I really do.

[1734] As much as I get criticized of not doing that, that is, it's hard, it's hard to do.

[1735] I don't always do it the best.

[1736] I've listened to you.

[1737] I think you do a damn good job.

[1738] I'm not blowing smoke up.

[1739] I try.

[1740] I really do.

[1741] It's my idea.

[1742] Excuse me. It's my intent to listen and to try to understand other people's perspective while also being rational, but also recognizing cult thinking.

[1743] There's a lot of cult -like thinking going on.

[1744] And that's what woke America is.

[1745] Being woke is a cult.

[1746] It doesn't mean being compassionate.

[1747] is a cult being kind and considerate and open -minded and inclusive all those things are wonderful that's great it's good for everybody i'm a very open -minded person very inclusive person i want everybody to be happy i know that i'm different than other people i know there's music i like that's different there's activities i like it's different i don't want you to like the things i like you don't have to let's let's just be nice to each other and be respectful decent human beings not that hard but that's not what's being promoted today what's being promoted today is either youth think the way I think or you're a bigot.

[1748] That's, that's dangerous because you're, you're getting kids to think that they have to think a certain way or they'll be ostracized and to be a rebel to stand out against this woke shit that they're teaching.

[1749] It puts you in a very vulnerable position socially, very vulnerable position for people that are at their most vulnerable in life.

[1750] Young people that are trying to find themselves and they're trying to fit in.

[1751] They want social credibility.

[1752] They want people to like them.

[1753] And you have a very hard road if you don't tow the line and follow the ideology that's being pushed predominantly today.

[1754] It's no different than following that white tiger and leather pants just a different ideology.

[1755] But you're following the same thing.

[1756] It's very similar.

[1757] Blindly.

[1758] Yeah.

[1759] It's very similar.

[1760] People really do love to be a part of a group where you're accepted and appreciated.

[1761] I know.

[1762] I'm chilly.

[1763] You're chilly?

[1764] Really?

[1765] I get chilly a lot.

[1766] My hands get chilly.

[1767] What's going on, man?

[1768] Is that a post -COVID thing?

[1769] It could be.

[1770] Do you have COVID toes?

[1771] I got COVID toes and all got COVID eyes.

[1772] My ass is getting old chipped.

[1773] Yeah, it's fucking weird.

[1774] I started wanting to learn how to hunt.

[1775] Yeah?

[1776] I literally wanted a hunt.

[1777] When the food was scarce?

[1778] No. I started going, are we going to go into, an area where we have to tap out and this whole thing just made me think of everything differently.

[1779] Like if governments, because Anthony Day it's governments, are able to pull the rug on everything you possess, all your work, everything, and say where you can walk, how close you can stand next to each other.

[1780] And as much as we believe that would never exist, are you prepped for, God forbid, the electric grid is turned off and then you want to talk about chaos yeah wow well we came four minutes away from that here in Texas the electric grid almost went down when the power grid was really vulnerable because of the cold because everybody was like trying to heat their house up and everybody had the power on they almost collapsed and that made me realize wow And it's really funny because my wife, who's in the Lord world, she found Jesus years ago, she's not like, hey, read the Bible, tell Joe, make sure he finds it.

[1781] She's not like that.

[1782] But that's her basis, right?

[1783] Where I'm more spiritual, and I remember I was going with a friend of mine.

[1784] He's like, you want to learn a hut?

[1785] He's teaching me guns and all this stuff.

[1786] I said, I want to start learning a hunt, not only hunt, but I want to...

[1787] New Jersey is actually a good place to learn to hunt.

[1788] There's a lot of deer.

[1789] Tons of deer.

[1790] A lot of bear.

[1791] A lot of bear.

[1792] I think they stopped the bear hunt for a while.

[1793] I don't know if I'd kill a bear.

[1794] I don't know if I kill an animal yet.

[1795] Yeah, you could.

[1796] I know.

[1797] Trust me. I'm sure I can't.

[1798] You could.

[1799] I'd have to indie it, Joe.

[1800] No, if you got...

[1801] No, if I needed it, I could do it.

[1802] You'd have to indie in it?

[1803] Yeah, meaning like, oh, I'm sorry.

[1804] You know, the spirit world, I'm going to eat you and my...

[1805] I'm so sorry to take your life.

[1806] I'll make sure it's done well.

[1807] You know what I mean?

[1808] I get it.

[1809] Give it blessings.

[1810] I understand.

[1811] I don't know if I personally.

[1812] can take out an animal yet but I booked it I booked it we're going to go to hog hunt Oh that's a good one to go on Yeah we're going to go in a hog hunt Where are you going?

[1813] Oh okay But I got my first gig booked The week where you're supposed to go I was like listen man I haven't had money in a long time Which also changed my world too I don't have I don't have the means to go.

[1814] I don't need to work.

[1815] Right.

[1816] You have to work.

[1817] This one's in private.

[1818] This one's in college.

[1819] I'm like, uh, thank God I was able to go as long as I did without it.

[1820] But I went, you know what?

[1821] I want to know God forbid.

[1822] I could take this thing.

[1823] He's like, oh, bro, I'll bring it.

[1824] Okay, it was all hooked up.

[1825] But I remember having dinner at my wife, and we're with another couple.

[1826] And we're sitting there, and I've, you know, if I have two drinks, I'm happy.

[1827] chatterbox and I'm sitting there and they're like yeah you know I didn't meet and I went oh my God I'm going for my first hunt and Dee goes what you say I said Frank's bringing me on I'm going to learn how to she's like no you're not I went yeah I am I said I'm not killing it I'm just going to watch I'm just going to watch I'm just going to watch and I'm going to learn how to cut it and and no I want I want to learn to cut the animal, stock the meat.

[1828] How do you stock the meat?

[1829] Am I able to eat this down the road?

[1830] Am I able to, I want to learn how to fish all to survive, not to, not to, and I really want to start getting into that, bro.

[1831] I really want to start getting into that.

[1832] People don't.

[1833] Oh, so I was going to say it was, so a couple of two weeks later, two weeks later, it gets blown out of the water, and I told Dee, I'm like, do you listen to me?

[1834] The reason why I was doing that, I said, I'm going to be dead honest with you.

[1835] Because there's a little part of me that's freaked out.

[1836] I'm going to be blatantly honest.

[1837] There's a little part of me freaked out.

[1838] I don't know where this world is going.

[1839] If you told me the world's going to shut down and tell you what to do and think and blah, blah, blah.

[1840] I said, I saw this years ago, but now it's intense.

[1841] Now it's getting intense.

[1842] I go, uh, I want to know.

[1843] And she says, Jim, I'll be killing the animal and I'll be skinning the animal and soul your youngest daughter.

[1844] and she made me belly lap so hard because she was dead serious.

[1845] My wife.

[1846] So why didn't she want you to go hunt?

[1847] She just thought, she's like, you don't need to learn that right now.

[1848] You're doing it at a fear.

[1849] Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to me. Hunting is not easy.

[1850] It's not something you just do.

[1851] You got to learn how to do it.

[1852] And it takes a long time.

[1853] I've been doing it for almost a decade.

[1854] It takes a long time.

[1855] I'm barely good at it.

[1856] If I'm on my own, it's hit or miss. I use guides to help me. These guides to show me where it's the best place, and I learn from them, just like when I did martial arts, I used coaches, and I learn.

[1857] I'm a very, I'm a good listener.

[1858] I'm a good student.

[1859] Like, everything I know about hunting, I know from my friends that taught me at a hunt, my friends like Cam Haynes and John Dudley and Steve Renella, they taught me how.

[1860] And then I learn from guides.

[1861] And I do it that way because I'm humble and I'm open -minded.

[1862] and I know what I do and what I don't, what I can do and what I can't do by myself.

[1863] I have a limited amount of time.

[1864] The amount of information that you have to know to be good at hunting is staggering.

[1865] It's not simple.

[1866] You have to be physically fit because the animals are fucking smart and they go in the woods and they hide.

[1867] They go in the mountains.

[1868] They go in high altitude.

[1869] Elk, generally, they're not a high altitude animal.

[1870] They used to be on the planes.

[1871] The problem is people came along And so they relocated to the mountains Because they know it's hard for us to get around They figure these things out If you want to be a successful hunter You got to learn how to do it This idea that once civilization collapses Oh, then I'll learn hunting The fuck you will The fuck you will You ain't gonna learn shit And you need someone to show you how to do it And that's why I want to start learning Now and I also know Just like on a completely different way golfing.

[1872] If you're going to learn a golf...

[1873] Yeah, you need to learn.

[1874] You need to go with guys that aren't intense.

[1875] They're willing to teach you.

[1876] So with this hunting, I still...

[1877] I'm going to go, but I want teachers.

[1878] Like guys, like, I know you're...

[1879] You need a guide.

[1880] I know you're totally wet behind the ears and I'm going to show you everything.

[1881] You're going to have to learn a lot and you're also going to have to be fit.

[1882] It's not an easy thing to do, man. Especially if you want to go after any animal that's a mountain animal that's fucking really hard and this is coming from a guy who's worked out his whole life I still it's hard for me I have a guy who wants to take me to bro he's name's Will Jamero he was in the World War II he was trapped in the towers they did a whole movie on it he lives in my town the guy is an insane hunter he's full blown how old is he he's like our age he was in World War II I'm sorry what I say World War II oh my god Twin Towers Jesus okay I didn't understand Will I am so sorry you meant 9 -11 yes I meant 9 -11 wow I'm getting to mention that's 2001 Jim not 1940 I was like how old is this guy he's our age I think your friend might be full of shit whoa no no no he was I believe but I'm saying if he was saying he was in World War Imagine you run into a guy I was in World War II.

[1883] I was in World War II.

[1884] You're 40.

[1885] That's right.

[1886] I'm 47.

[1887] But it happened in 1942.

[1888] That's right.

[1889] Well, I was there.

[1890] God damn Japanese.

[1891] I was in the Philippines.

[1892] But this guy, he shows me he stuff.

[1893] And he tells me to say he's going to, he spends two weeks in the middle of nowhere.

[1894] Oh, it's like one of the backpack guys.

[1895] Oh, yeah.

[1896] He's intense.

[1897] I have a few buddies to do that.

[1898] They do solo, my friend Adam Green Tree, he does these long solo hunts.

[1899] Well, he'll go into the mountains for fucking, he did one where he did it all and documented a lot of it on Instagram.

[1900] We followed along and got a bunch of other people to follow him along too.

[1901] But he was by himself with like solar chargers to charge his cell phone in the mountains.

[1902] It took 28 days until he was successful, camping out in the woods.

[1903] And he had multiple encounters with a grizzly bear.

[1904] One of them where he's getting charged and he's like pointing a pistol at her.

[1905] you know she was she had her cubs and and she was trying to scare him off so she would charge at him and stop like 10 yards away from them like fucking hair standing straight up teeth gnashing you know i'll tell you right six hundred pound grizzly bear full charge men i hear no way no way it's dangerous no have you ever dealt with that i've never dealt with a charging grizzly bear but I saw a grizzly bear once it stared me it stared at me in a way that I've never had an animal stare at me because most animals like I've never encountered a cougar or a mountain line in the woods I've seen them twice once in Santa Barbara just driving I saw one on the street ran across the road I didn't realize what it was until it got like halfway across the row I saw that it's tail and I'm like oh my god that's a cat and I realized oh shit that's a mountain line.

[1906] Wow.

[1907] And that was like in the Montecito area of Santa Barbara.

[1908] And then another time I saw one wasn't as clear in Colorado.

[1909] It was a tan thing moving through the woods very quickly.

[1910] And I go, oh shit, that's a cat.

[1911] And then a real, but that was, that was less clear than the Santa Barbara one.

[1912] But I've never seen one eye to eye where I was looking at it and it was looking at me. But I did have that happen in Canada with a grizzly.

[1913] And it looked me right in the eye like this.

[1914] Black dead eyes like, and we had shotguns.

[1915] We were actually bow hunting.

[1916] but we brought shotguns because we were moving into an area that did have grizzlies and it was spooky man it wasn't even a big grizzly bear it was like a six foot bear but it was the way it looked at you man it's a different way of looking at you they have a different feel they like any other animal because they're looking at you like is this when I'm eating today like because they're just looking for things to eat all the time they're enormous predators oh my gosh yeah so it's like not that big for a grizzly it was like maybe six foot tall, maybe 250 pounds, maybe 300 pounds.

[1917] For a grizzly, it's not that big.

[1918] They get way, way bigger than that.

[1919] So this one looking at me, but the darkness in its eyes, man, it's like shark eyes.

[1920] Like these black, cold, unfeeling dark eyes.

[1921] It's so weird, man. It's hard to explain when you lock eyes with a predator and they have the intention of eating you.

[1922] It is a weird fucking feeling, man. We got out of there quick.

[1923] I was with a friend of mine who's a guide made a lot of noise got out of the scene but it was weird it's weird to see I started I love scuba diving I want to get more intense with the scuba diving Oh that's terrifying I love it That's their world That's their world At least the woods You walk on the ground too And you can Correct But what I love But I saw a shark For the first time In the water?

[1924] Yeah.

[1925] Scuba diving?

[1926] Yes.

[1927] And...

[1928] How far away?

[1929] Eh, it was far enough that I was not worried.

[1930] Do you have a spear gun?

[1931] No, I had nothing.

[1932] And so it's me and my daughter stopped and just seeing the way it moves.

[1933] And the minute it knew we were there, it kind of stopped, and then it made a complete left and didn't want anything to do with us.

[1934] But just to see it moving.

[1935] like this and it made me want to get more so I follow I start following and then I just like hunting and all that you learn more and more and more you get good guides and it changes the whole underworld and you realize most shark attacks are surfers and and snorkelers because they like coming in from behind and they don't they don't like facing you straight on they don't like that at all And some people that will, believe it or not, when a shark is coming to you, most of the time it's not coming to eat you.

[1936] It's coming to check you out at first.

[1937] And the real aggressive ones that will come towards you, very rarely they open their mouth to take a chomp because you don't know it's coming.

[1938] They're coming from behind.

[1939] As long as you face it, always face it.

[1940] you're so much safer and then if it does come to you just kind of no I haven't had that experience what are you doing a keto yeah you do this you you push it you push it to the side and and they're like oh I don't you see that video recently recent video the shark that's swimming straight out of a guy and he spears it in the mouth no thing is coming at him like 50 miles an hour it's crazy straight on straight on coming full bore Adam with its mouth open he shoves his spear gun and it's mouth and pulls the trigger.

[1941] Great White?

[1942] I don't know what it was.

[1943] There's one.

[1944] You see the one...

[1945] You know the video.

[1946] Jamie's seen the video.

[1947] I see one where the guy...

[1948] A bull shark?

[1949] Bull sharks.

[1950] Nasty.

[1951] Super great.

[1952] Watch this.

[1953] Them and tigers.

[1954] Watch this.

[1955] Okay.

[1956] So this guy's in there spear fishing.

[1957] Yeah.

[1958] And this, look at this motherfucker.

[1959] Oh!

[1960] Right at him.

[1961] He was coming right for him.

[1962] Right?

[1963] Full blast.

[1964] He was coming for him.

[1965] Yeah.

[1966] Look at that.

[1967] Shot him right in the mouth.

[1968] Good.

[1969] Wow.

[1970] I'm eating bull shark for the next couple of months.

[1971] Isn't that nuts?

[1972] That's a dangerous animal.

[1973] Do you know the New Jersey story that inspired Jaws?

[1974] Do you know that story?

[1975] No. Here's the thing about bull sharks.

[1976] Bull sharks swim up river, so they swim in fresh water.

[1977] They've found bull sharks as far north as Illinois.

[1978] What?

[1979] Yeah, bull sharks have made it as far north up the Mississippi River as Illinois.

[1980] They can swim hundreds of miles through fresh water.

[1981] So the attacks from the early 1900s, inspired the movie Jaws were actually attacks on a river and was a river that was in New Jersey wow it was a series of people that were murdered by bull sharks they were they were killed by bull sharks i forget the river but this is like early 1900s where they wore those goofy like pop -eye style bathing suits yeah they probably thought he was a seal or something no they thought it was food they don't give it's just like you said with the grisly bear it's looks bull sharks are vicious and it's food but there's there's people in flood there's an area in flor on the East Coast, where my friend went and dove with the nurse sharks or...

[1982] Oh, yeah, nurse sharks are peaceful.

[1983] Whale sharks?

[1984] I'm sorry, not nurse sharks, tiger sharks.

[1985] Oh, those are dangerous, too.

[1986] And they, it's a breeding ground.

[1987] And this maniac, they jump in, you pay a lot of money to go in there.

[1988] To almost die.

[1989] To almost die.

[1990] And they tell you, like, well, you got to keep constantly...

[1991] No, I know.

[1992] Why?

[1993] I don't want to do that.

[1994] But I will say this.

[1995] That's part of life I love.

[1996] Like this summer, I have planned.

[1997] There's part of me who wants to tap out, Joe.

[1998] About what?

[1999] Tap out to what?

[2000] Just full -blown jungle society.

[2001] I know I'm not going to do it.

[2002] Like live in the woods?

[2003] Yeah.

[2004] Live off the land.

[2005] Costa Rica.

[2006] Ooh.

[2007] Costa Rica.

[2008] Costa Rica.

[2009] Until things get lawless.

[2010] Then you realize like, oh, I want the Constitution on my side.

[2011] And that's the danger.

[2012] That is the danger.

[2013] You got to go there.

[2014] You got to acquire enough money to have your own military.

[2015] And then You're right, man You got to acquire enormous amounts of money And then pay a bunch of Train killers very well Yes And to guard your community And then bring in a bunch of other friends Everybody chips in And make sure you got a lot of bullets And no one goes too far You never went on a safari or anything like that No No, I've never been on safaris I'm going to go with the guerrillas this summer Yeah?

[2016] I can't wait Where are you going?

[2017] Zabawi shit tanzania wow that's intense i would go i would certainly go the thing is children are not supposed to take those fucking malaria shots it's really uh they can they can be really rough yeah but they can be rough the malaria medication can be very very rough on kids and the last thing you want is your kid to get fucking malaria i have a buddy who's got malaria three times where does he live well he works for he has a um a non -profit called fight for the forgotten his name's justin ren he's great guy like one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life and he uh builds wells for the pygmies and so he does it in uh he's doing him in Uganda and he also did it in the Congo and uh he got he got malaria three fucking times and uh one time he got malaria when he wasn't even there he got malaria because he got weakened and sick and then the malaria kicked in again so it was dormant in his body he also got some crazy fucking brain parasite that fucked with him.

[2018] It was a parasite that it was very difficult for them to even identify at first.

[2019] They didn't know what it was.

[2020] So they had to give him all this medication and it lasted for fucking months and months and months.

[2021] And he went to all these different specialists and he's just now coming out of the fog of it.

[2022] But it was I forget the exact term that he used or what this parasite was.

[2023] But it had worked its way through his system.

[2024] And it was some sort of a cerebral parasite.

[2025] It was in his gut.

[2026] It was in his body.

[2027] It was in everywhere.

[2028] It was real bad.

[2029] Cancel the trip to Africa immediately.

[2030] Yeah, but he was in the, you got to, he was deep in the jungle, like living in a hut with the, with the pygmies and, you know, deep in the Congo.

[2031] And also, like, bathing in the river, which is fucking dangerous.

[2032] That's the big danger.

[2033] Yeah.

[2034] We were, we, we, I was there years ago and we can't, on this beautiful island and there are no predators on the island but they said don't go in the water i'm like but this water's huge like don't don't go don't go swimming like why not parasites all over the place are you they'll swim up your dick sir to tapped out you know about that yes tapped out no swim up yeah no in your penis hole in your dick hole that's where they want to camp out that's their They swim up the cave And then they have spines They attach themselves The inside of your dickhole And they have to pull them out with tweezers And when they pull them out It rips the inside of your dick apart I'm making all this up I made all that fun of That's why I don't even want to go to a hospital But they do swim In the Amazon they do swim up your dickhole Yes My biggest I'm looking at one of my biggest fears Is if I go to the hospital And I'm out I know I don't want to I don't want to catfish.

[2035] That's the dickfish.

[2036] Ew, it goes in your dick.

[2037] Yeah.

[2038] How do you say that name, Jamie?

[2039] Candiru.

[2040] Candiru?

[2041] Candidia, which is also very bad.

[2042] But that's sugar.

[2043] The fish, yeah, that's candida, right?

[2044] The fish with a bad rep for human private parts paracitation.

[2045] So that, look how big it is.

[2046] Imagine that thing's clogging up your pee hole.

[2047] You'd have to jerk off to get rid of it.

[2048] Look at this guy.

[2049] What she's doing right there.

[2050] Blast him out.

[2051] Yeah.

[2052] He's trying to blast them out right now.

[2053] You have to save your loads up for several weeks and then drown it.

[2054] What are you doing over there?

[2055] The flood to drown them.

[2056] Yeah, but they'll, they swim up your dickhole.

[2057] Apparently, if you pee in the water, they're attracted.

[2058] What is that?

[2059] I mean, I thought it was a, it's like a surgery.

[2060] Is that an x -ray?

[2061] It looks like from a surgery.

[2062] Oh, my God.

[2063] That big thing was inside of that guy's dick?

[2064] It swims up your urine stream.

[2065] How size is it?

[2066] this guy's donkey.

[2067] That's a big donkey.

[2068] That guy's got anything close to that.

[2069] Super giant hog and that thing's inside of it.

[2070] It's terrifying.

[2071] I don't want to go to hospital.

[2072] It's just because I don't want a catheter in it.

[2073] I get it.

[2074] Look at that one.

[2075] Oh, my God.

[2076] That's not it.

[2077] That's just reminds me of.

[2078] What is that?

[2079] It's a different.

[2080] Oh.

[2081] Some of them might have stuck something up something.

[2082] Oh, he stuck a fucking bottle opener up his.

[2083] That looks like a fork.

[2084] Stuck a fork up his cockhole.

[2085] How fucked up do you got to be?

[2086] My buddy, Steve Graham, used to work.

[2087] He's an ophthalologist, and he did his residency in Miami during the cocaine day.

[2088] during the 1980s.

[2089] Oh my God, yeah.

[2090] And he showed me a ton of pictures.

[2091] But they had people that had everything up their asshole.

[2092] Like GI Joe dolls.

[2093] One guy, you know one of them curly, like pine cone looking light bulbs?

[2094] One guy shoved one of those up his ass.

[2095] Do you think that's...

[2096] It shattered in his ass.

[2097] Is that a crazy thing?

[2098] Is that a...

[2099] Is that, like, do you have to be homosexual?

[2100] No. To do...

[2101] That's just a crazy thing.

[2102] Yeah, it's crazy.

[2103] You've lost your mind now.

[2104] Sexual preference.

[2105] Right?

[2106] It's, you're past the sexual preference, though, and you're like, we're just going to start.

[2107] Go get the fucking chair.

[2108] You ever seen the guy that had the, there's a video that was going around the internet a while back of a guy with a mason jar, when those glass mason jars, you know, that people would drink, like, lemonade out of, you know, those mason jars?

[2109] Yeah.

[2110] He shoved it up his asshole and then it shattered.

[2111] What?

[2112] Yeah, it shattered.

[2113] And then the glass chunk, this guy's squatting.

[2114] Voluntarily.

[2115] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[2116] He's doing on purpose.

[2117] the glass chunks were dropping out of his asshole with blood just falling to the ground it was one of the one of the most hardcore videos this is back in the style project days this is back in like there was a website called style project like way back in the 90s and maybe the early 2000s that had like the most hardcore shit bro this guy style would find everything fucked up and then there was another website called body modification extreme be EME extreme.

[2118] Oh, my God.

[2119] And it was all like the most wild shit that people were doing to their bodies.

[2120] But around the two girls one cup days, people were shoving all kinds of things up their ass.

[2121] And this guy shoved, it was like a glass jar up his ass.

[2122] And it shattered.

[2123] And the chunks of glass falling out of his ass with blood, right?

[2124] Because he's bleeding internally.

[2125] He's probably dead.

[2126] What do you want?

[2127] You want to start shoving shit in our ass, Joe?

[2128] Like, how do you get to that point?

[2129] Are you true?

[2130] How do you go?

[2131] It's a good question.

[2132] Let's start with, let's just start with the ashtray.

[2133] You know, people probably would say that about me with tattoos.

[2134] Like, how do you get to your arms are sleeved up in tattoos?

[2135] Yeah, but they're not up your ass.

[2136] I know, but you see what I'm saying?

[2137] Like, then it gets to face tattoos.

[2138] Then it gets to, like, dick tattoos.

[2139] And maybe some people get their nipples pierced.

[2140] And then next thing you know, they want to stuff things in their ass.

[2141] Maybe it feels good.

[2142] So they stuff more than maybe they hate themselves.

[2143] So they put a mason jar up there.

[2144] I don't know I can hate myself It's one of the worst videos I've ever seen though Because he's squatting And you hear the crack of the glass Like a glass Shattering inside a bag Like a meat bag Like the glass Yeah And then you hear Kunk Kunk and the drip Drip Got it I'm digging into this The Kendi Room There's a parent It's I am not going to encourage 1855, the story of swimming up of a penis, urethra.

[2145] That was the first documented one?

[2146] According to this article, there's only one modern case that's been documented, and it was in 1997.

[2147] That's all I need.

[2148] I don't need a whole ton of people getting dickfish.

[2149] Just one is enough for me not to be in that river.

[2150] If it's real, it's real.

[2151] You know what I mean?

[2152] It's like, well, there's no worries.

[2153] You just double mask your penis.

[2154] I just kept looking for pictures, and then one of them started saying like myths, This isn't real.

[2155] It's 90 % myth.

[2156] It's just, and then I'm trying to figure it out.

[2157] Just because it's rare.

[2158] It doesn't mean it's not real.

[2159] That's the same stupid logic that people use when it comes to bear attacks or shark attacks.

[2160] Like, it's so rare.

[2161] The odds of you getting struck by lightning are far higher.

[2162] It's still a possibility.

[2163] Yeah, just push that fish away.

[2164] Ikedo style.

[2165] Like you're the fucking karate instructor and Napoleon Dynamite.

[2166] That's the other thing I wanted.

[2167] Break the wrist, walk away.

[2168] That's the other thing I was going to.

[2169] So I was hunting, and I was going to try to learn Jiu -Jitsu, right?

[2170] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2171] I'm like, I'm too old, man. You're not too old.

[2172] Anthony Bourdain didn't start until he was like 58.

[2173] Really?

[2174] Yeah.

[2175] Because I think that would put me in insane shape.

[2176] Yeah, it will.

[2177] My biggest fear is just some punk.

[2178] Mm -hmm.

[2179] And I'm like, I really not asking for this, bro.

[2180] Yeah.

[2181] I just want to get my car.

[2182] Yeah.

[2183] Get out of here.

[2184] I got my wife with me and just watching someone taking me. That's like my biggest.

[2185] Because the old days of just giving you.

[2186] a kick or a punch or running and when these kids get on top you it's like I have an alligator on you I don't want to so there is there is a put but it's hard to find where that place is I remember I mean martial arts place I could find you that a real good one I could find you Jersey I can find you that Jersey yeah yeah I'm sure there's a place near you no listen I'm sure within a drive within a normal drive yes there's a good place within an hour yeah yeah yeah I guarantee you 100%.

[2187] We'd love to do that.

[2188] How far are you from the city?

[2189] Oh, good.

[2190] I don't want anything to the city.

[2191] No, you don't have to go to the city, but how far are you?

[2192] I'm an hour.

[2193] Oh, then 1 ,000 percent.

[2194] There's somewhere near you that will be good.

[2195] There's a lot of good places in New Jersey.

[2196] There's plenty of good.

[2197] Jiu -Jitsu is so widespread now.

[2198] Listen, it's a great thing to learn just for your mental health because it's exhausting and it just makes you feel good when you get out of there.

[2199] You're relaxed.

[2200] Well, not only that, it's part of a, you know years and years and years and years ago whatever it is to we train with these guys there were green berets i was a kid right but one of the most fascinating parts about it which i'll never forget which i think saved my life one day was this one guy sensei Romeo he would give these long he was a little guy but he had his intense piercing eyes with these black freaking uh eyebrows right And he would talk about the true warrior knows how to avoid and use your mind before the physical.

[2201] If you can avoid the physical and tear down your enemy with the mind to be able to do that.

[2202] Well, check this out.

[2203] Okay.

[2204] So I just remember him talking about if you know you're not going to win a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[2205] So cut to, this is weird, Joe.

[2206] I'm in Denver, Colorado with my dad, right?

[2207] And my dad's like in his 80s and I bring him, I bring him around a lot and, you know, I know he's going to be around a lot but I love to have my dad around.

[2208] So my dad, he's having a blast.

[2209] This one day, and I meditate a lot.

[2210] Do you?

[2211] Yeah, meditate, pray, whatever.

[2212] What kind of meditation do?

[2213] Just silence.

[2214] I'll sit today.

[2215] I walked along the river, sat down, and I asked, whatever you want me to think whatever you want me to put out there what do you want me to do and then I'm silent and then whatever comes comes in and that's what I do going hikes did you learn how to do this or you just do it on your own like did you learn a method or just I did on my own on my own sometimes I'll listen to like Indian flute music Native American music but I've I've done this a long It's helped me tremendously, moving time.

[2216] Tremendously.

[2217] So on this one particular day, I go to the gym, right?

[2218] I'm working out in the gym.

[2219] Don't ask me why.

[2220] I was on the bench, and I was the only one in there, and I'm sitting there, and I just started zoning out, and Sensei Romeo, his whole speed, I'm going, why am I thinking of him right now?

[2221] This is weird.

[2222] So as I'm thinking of him, he starts, I see that whole speech about you never know when you have to avoid him when you attack him.

[2223] It's more learning your, all this jazz, right?

[2224] Cut to that night after the show, the whole staff is like, hey, you want to go to, you know, we're all going to go out, let's bring your dad out to my last night.

[2225] And they probably have room for one more drink because it's a late show.

[2226] So we go there.

[2227] We're in downtown Denver.

[2228] We have the whole table in the...

[2229] There's a glass thing looking in the street.

[2230] I was sitting there in a bar, guys, to my right.

[2231] I wonder if he's the setup.

[2232] I don't know.

[2233] He might have been the setup the more I think about it.

[2234] I don't understand where this guy came and how he knew where I was.

[2235] All of a sudden, this huge biker.

[2236] comes what i mean he's got he's got the uh he doesn't have he doesn't have brass knuckles but he's got shit around his knuckles so clearly he's ready to use him about he's about six foot something and he sees me in the in the glass window and he walks in and he leans over my father's right here he leans over my father and grabs me he's like fucking outside right fucking now wait a man wait a minute wait a minute you don't know this guy at all No, but right now I have no clue who this human being is No fucking clue Okay I said okay okay okay relax you're ready He goes I was at the fucking show You disrespect to my family outside I'm going Fuck is this guy But I My biggest concern right now Is not this guy It's my dad having a heart attack Right Because my dad will get up He's a World War II vet He don't give a shit Right He'll get it He's going to die.

[2237] That's my concern.

[2238] I got to protect him.

[2239] Now, the whole staff is like, hey, that.

[2240] But the more they want to get involved, the angrier he got.

[2241] So I was like, hey, hey, hey, I will talk.

[2242] You want to talk?

[2243] We'll go outside and we'll talk.

[2244] I don't know why I was so calm.

[2245] To this day, I don't know why I was so calm.

[2246] So I go outside in the front door.

[2247] I said, what's going on, man?

[2248] Because you fucking disrespect my family.

[2249] you disrespecting my sister tonight you never fucking i said okay okay i don't know what you're talking about so you have to tell me what's going on here he goes tonight my sister passed out now it's coming to me i know exactly what happened he was in the he was in the audience with his sister and a bunch of people and during the show all i heard was crash and and everyone was like and i could not see and i went what Everything, everything all right?

[2250] Everything all right?

[2251] What, what's going on?

[2252] I don't know if there was a fight, whatever, and they're like, ah, she's drunk.

[2253] It was a woman on the floor.

[2254] I said, she okay.

[2255] Is she okay?

[2256] I don't know if she's spazzing.

[2257] I don't know what the fuck's going on.

[2258] So they lift her up, and I realized she's just drunk.

[2259] Okay, we're okay now.

[2260] Now people are starting like, oh, get around.

[2261] And I said, oh, man. Now, I waited till they were long on their way.

[2262] way out and I start and all I said was she is not going to have a good rest of the night I go this is just the beginning I said thank God she's okay but this is just the beginning and I go off on a whole I go in a character of where what her events are going to be and she needs to pull over and she's out of way and it's all the and the people and they're howling okay so I'm crushing it now.

[2263] So it all comes to me. Okay, this is the situation.

[2264] And he goes, my fucking sister, and you disrespect it.

[2265] I said, okay.

[2266] Sensei Romeo goes, and I go like this, I go, okay, I'm just going to explain one thing to you, and if you feel you still want to do, and dude, I swear to God, Joe, I look to my right and I said, okay, that's where I'm going to fall when he hits me, because he's clearly going to hit me. And that's a little sharp right there.

[2267] So it's all bricks.

[2268] And I'm looking at my dad.

[2269] And now my job in my head, I went, I need to talk to him as long as I can until at least police arrive.

[2270] So when he does hit me, I have enough time to recover before he possibly kills me. This is what's going on in my head.

[2271] And he goes, he said, well, Well, he said, you know, disrespect my sister, blah, blah, blah.

[2272] So I said, listen, what is your name?

[2273] He goes, John.

[2274] I said, John, okay.

[2275] If you remember tonight, the first thing I said is, is she okay?

[2276] Did I not ask about her health?

[2277] He goes, you did.

[2278] You fucking did.

[2279] I said, now, when I realized she was okay, did I make fun of her.

[2280] When we were war gas, hold on now, hold on now.

[2281] Remember, I waited to you started walking.

[2282] Now, what you need to understand is that whole crowd pays a lot of money from my attention.

[2283] I go, now they're all staring at your sister.

[2284] They're staring at you.

[2285] They started saying things.

[2286] So now my job is to get that attention off you as you get her out into safety and then get it back on me. Now, I didn't say anything derogatory towards her.

[2287] and call her a stupid bitch or drunk whore all i said was oh man her night is just beginning it's gonna go from here to here and the more they left it was back on me and then and that this guy on my kids lives hope i die if i'm lying started crying and he goes could you talk to my wife and tell her i'm going to jail tonight.

[2288] Oh, Jesus.

[2289] Swear to God.

[2290] And I went, sure.

[2291] He goes, no, man, that was, it's cool that you just, that you took.

[2292] Because he was planning on hitting you and then going to jail.

[2293] Fucking me up to go to jail because of his drunk.

[2294] You almost call her a whore.

[2295] I, oh, but I did.

[2296] And now I'm on the line with a, with a female who's going.

[2297] I'm back and shake a line.

[2298] You fucking disrespect.

[2299] Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[2300] That's what she's saying?

[2301] Pretty much.

[2302] That's all I heard.

[2303] That's all I heard.

[2304] But because of whether it was the meditate, I truly believe it was the meditating or learning that experience of always check your surroundings.

[2305] I still do it.

[2306] I walk nonstop.

[2307] I'm always looking at my surroundings, what my exit route is.

[2308] if this person approaches me how am I going to get at nonstop and that's through battle training but I feel like I need in my head you laugh at me dead you know whatever the fuck you call you know what I mean to talk to people rather than getting fights with them what's that it's always good to talk to people rather than getting fights with them but if you're but that guy's extremely demanding that's preposterous but if you can't in that scenario if I didn't have the patience to talk talk to when I was ready to fucking go down.

[2309] I'm doomed.

[2310] I would have got fucking murdered.

[2311] So you want to learn how to fight.

[2312] I want to learn how to defend yourself.

[2313] God forbid, I can't talk out.

[2314] And I can take care of.

[2315] I've been in brawls.

[2316] There's nothing more.

[2317] Brawls are not fun.

[2318] When you're hit from behind and next thing you know you're on the floor and you got to fucking curl up and this jackass trying to kick in and you got to hope your, it's all about panic you can't panic and once I was on the floor you know and this guy's getting fucked up and this guy's it's I don't think I'd ever be in that position because I was young but I think it's very important that everybody like that should be a course in school why the fuck are we learning about Ponce de Leon and this is my Ponsilion fucker St. Logan who gives you shit how about we train them we're going to train how to battle, how to be in a position where you're attacked, blah, blah, blah.

[2319] Listen, most of that stuff is nonsense, which you really need to learn as a martial art. Most of that, like, when someone comes at you, you grab them here, and then you do this.

[2320] You don't train that.

[2321] You're not going to remember that.

[2322] No. You need to learn concepts, but it's good for everybody because it keeps people from being assholes.

[2323] Like, when you really know how to fight, you're very rarely going to fight.

[2324] You're very rarely an asshole, and that's what I was saying is like, once you, learn it, I'm not going to be an asshole.

[2325] I just know what I'm capable of.

[2326] So why don't you do it?

[2327] I'll find you a school.

[2328] If you can find me when I'll 100 % find you a school.

[2329] It's like, I don't want to find a bullshit guy who's like, I want to find.

[2330] You're like, Jim, I'm telling you right now, this person's.

[2331] No, no, no. I'll tell you where I live.

[2332] Yeah.

[2333] Don't worry.

[2334] You already did.

[2335] I'll find you a place.

[2336] Here's a thing about jujitsu.

[2337] Like, there's very few bullshit schools.

[2338] You can't survive.

[2339] People know whether or not it's real because.

[2340] is jiu -jitsu is one of the only martial arts where everybody spars with everybody.

[2341] So you really know what a guy can do or what they can't do.

[2342] There's no questions, you know?

[2343] Like, you know, you have good days and bad days, but the reality is, like, you know if your stuff is good because you actually spar.

[2344] You roll with people.

[2345] You try to strangle each other.

[2346] Right.

[2347] And it's, there's no room for fake jiu -jitsu in this world.

[2348] There's a lot of fake martial arts.

[2349] Right.

[2350] Like, there's a whole website.

[2351] There's a whole Instagram page called McDojo.

[2352] and McDojo is, was McDojo Life, right?

[2353] McDojo Life is a Instagram page that's all dedicated to fake martial arts.

[2354] And he's got fucking hundreds of videos of these people doing ridiculous shit that doesn't really work.

[2355] Right.

[2356] Because there's a lot, yeah, there's a lot of that out there.

[2357] And they practice on each other and the guy falls down and pretends to be hurt.

[2358] But Jiu -Jitsu doesn't have that.

[2359] Jiu -Jitsu is, I mean, maybe there's a fake Jiu -Jitsu school out there somewhere, but I don't think so anymore.

[2360] I think they've all been weeded out.

[2361] Bro, when I first saw, what was it, the Gracie guys?

[2362] They were fighting animals.

[2363] Six foot, they were like the minute they were on you, it's not you could do about it.

[2364] Yeah, that's jujitsu.

[2365] If someone doesn't understand jujitsu and they get in a fight with someone who does, they're fucked.

[2366] You're fucked.

[2367] Yeah, you're fucked.

[2368] If you guys good, it gets a clinchy.

[2369] People don't realize how vulnerable they really are unless they're in an encounter with a trained martial artist.

[2370] Most people just think they're badass.

[2371] Right.

[2372] You know, they just think, bro, I got a fucking My mentality.

[2373] They all say that.

[2374] Right.

[2375] You see my car?

[2376] Every guy says, I'll fucking see red, dude, and then I don't give a fuck.

[2377] I don't care about myself.

[2378] I don't care about pain.

[2379] Like, okay.

[2380] You're a person.

[2381] First of all, you're going to get tired really quick, stupid.

[2382] Bro.

[2383] I took, just for cardio reasons, I went to this kickboxing guy years ago, just for cardio.

[2384] And what was cool about him, he's like, you want to, he goes, because you actually hit me because then I kind of like it because would you want to come and spar one day and like you know we don't hate you I'd fucking love that only if you can hate you I don't want to do the fake shit he goes yeah let's do it bro I think 30 seconds I was coughing up a lung I couldn't I couldn't breathe after 30 seconds and I worked my way up to the 30 seconds to 45 but people don't realize How exhausting it is.

[2385] How exhausting.

[2386] Even just to fend...

[2387] There was times where he would hurt me and then I just have to...

[2388] Cover up.

[2389] Cover up as...

[2390] And even that is so exhausting.

[2391] Yeah.

[2392] And we're done.

[2393] I'm going...

[2394] It's also learning how to breathe.

[2395] Like, you've got to learn how to breathe while you're punching.

[2396] Learn how to breathe while you're getting punched.

[2397] Right.

[2398] One of the things that Nick Diaz used to do to guys that would fuck them up was he would not even hit you.

[2399] you that hard, but he would hit you so many times you couldn't catch your breath.

[2400] Because you were always like tense, tense, tense, tense.

[2401] And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, my God, I haven't breathed in like 40 seconds.

[2402] You're just taking punches.

[2403] I would love to do that.

[2404] I'm ready, man. I'm ready for, okay.

[2405] I'm going to do that.

[2406] And I live in the jungle just for a month now because you talk me out of a penis hole.

[2407] Yeah, you don't want to get your dick in the river.

[2408] I don't want to get your dick out of the river.

[2409] Keep your dick out of the river.

[2410] Make people laugh.

[2411] Go in the jungle.

[2412] Keep my dick out of the river.

[2413] And also the thing, the river has fucking crocodiles.

[2414] That's what you really have to worry about.

[2415] Those motherfuckers have been around.

[2416] Ever.

[2417] They're around when the dinosaurs were here.

[2418] They are still here.

[2419] Yeah, they are dinosaurs.

[2420] That's, if you want to know what it was like living 100 million years ago, go see a crocodile.

[2421] That's what they are.

[2422] Even, even, you know, I spent a lot of time in Florida.

[2423] You ever see a crane?

[2424] Yeah.

[2425] They look like teridactyls.

[2426] Yeah.

[2427] How about all the fucking alligators in Florida?

[2428] bro dude they're everywhere everywhere one of my favorite stories from florida was this guy was in a car chase with the cops he uh abandoned his car on a bridge jumps off the bridge into the water he's immediately killed by alligators literally landed he landed on a fucking alligator just like how and that's that's a route give a shit don't get a fuck they have a tiny brain size of a walnut they just float around killing shit eating things eating a lot of people's dogs I thought that was like a real man show too Those animals that would go in Swamp people Yeah They jump in they say Oh look at me an alligator And they jump in the water With the alligator Bro that's the guys you want going to war with Those guys kill so many alligators That was the thing that was shocking to me Is how many alligators there are When I lived in Florida I lived in Gainesville when I was in Cainzville Yeah yeah From age 11 to 13 I lived in Gainesville and when we were there they were endangered Alligators were endangered Really?

[2429] Yeah they had killed so many Alligators previous to that Like his alligator shoes with a shit That was the thing Like dudes want to be shit They would wear a pair of gators I remember at the pool hall Like that was the thing that like the old timey guys Would talk about I got dressed up I had my gators on Like gators was like If you had a nice pair of alligator shoes Like look at Mike Mike's got a pair of gators on Look at that Just the leather pants and tagger.

[2430] It was very similar.

[2431] But they were endangered.

[2432] Like, you couldn't hunt them.

[2433] Now there's so many of them.

[2434] They have to kill them.

[2435] So, like, those swamp people that show, one of the guys who was a professional alligator hunter, he had a tag for 500 alligators.

[2436] Like, he could shoot 500 alligators.

[2437] So they had a warehouse stacked up with alligator carcasses.

[2438] Think of that.

[2439] This is nuts.

[2440] That's nuts.

[2441] That's nuts.

[2442] And they weren't even putting a dent in those fucking things.

[2443] There's so many of them.

[2444] I've been eye in this place in Florida.

[2445] Oh, yeah?

[2446] Yes.

[2447] I'm in it like this?

[2448] Just like that.

[2449] You circling?

[2450] Like, how about, yeah, let me put this area.

[2451] So you want to move to Florida?

[2452] Is that what you're saying?

[2453] I would like to, yeah.

[2454] Really?

[2455] What part?

[2456] Naples area, and I'll tell you, I love Captiva.

[2457] What's that?

[2458] What's Captiva?

[2459] Southwest.

[2460] Oh, it's a place.

[2461] I thought it was a good.

[2462] Captiva, yeah.

[2463] I thought it was a natural sweetener.

[2464] No. Captiva Island.

[2465] Captiva, Sanabella.

[2466] I love southwest Florida.

[2467] Oh, okay.

[2468] I don't like the hoopla and the east side.

[2469] The east side's the hoopla?

[2470] Yeah.

[2471] What's the east side?

[2472] Miami, Fort Laudale, West Palm Beach.

[2473] Okay.

[2474] It's too northeast for me. Right.

[2475] The more I grew up, New York, and Manhattan, like the minute I went to Jersey, I got a couple acres.

[2476] I'm back in a neighborhood.

[2477] Turp, chirp, chirp.

[2478] Yes.

[2479] Dude, the first time I went out there, you ever hear a fox call in the middle of the night?

[2480] No. What was it selling?

[2481] It's like, it's, it's, I thought, I swear to God, I thought a child was being tortured.

[2482] And I got on the phone with the police.

[2483] I swear to God.

[2484] And, like, Did you just move around here, buddy?

[2485] Yeah, and within, but what threw me off was, within a minute, I'm like, wait a minute, how'd they drag that kid from there to like 100 yards in three seconds?

[2486] Maybe it's not a, maybe it's not, maybe it's not, that screech owls?

[2487] Oh, wow.

[2488] Screech, so anyway, I don't know what the hell is talking about.

[2489] Wait, got something, Jamie?

[2490] I don't hear shit.

[2491] I know me either.

[2492] It is.

[2493] There it is.

[2494] Whoa.

[2495] Can you imagine three in the morning?

[2496] Let me hear that.

[2497] Three in the morning.

[2498] Whoa.

[2499] That sounds like a werewolf.

[2500] That's like American werewolf in London.

[2501] And my woods, everything echoes.

[2502] Can you imagine?

[2503] What is the sound?

[2504] The sound, the call is usually ignored unless answered by the fox's, what is it say?

[2505] Fox's mate.

[2506] I will never Forget hearing that Now that's That sounds like a kid screaming I thought it was a kid screaming And I called us Look at their teeth Wow That's the sound they make when they're fighting Look at their fucking teeth Look how long their mouths are They're so cute They're cute They're my favorite little animals There's a fox that lives near my house They're so cute They're all over near my house They're very playful too They'll fuck around with people Did you ever see the movie Grizzly Man?

[2507] Oh, yeah.

[2508] Remember that wild fox became his buddy?

[2509] Yes.

[2510] That was very cool.

[2511] Yeah, he had a real relationship with that fox.

[2512] The fox was playful with him.

[2513] The ending really annoyed me. Why did it annoy you?

[2514] Because I was like, the sick part of me, I wanted to see it, and wanted to hear it.

[2515] Oh, yeah.

[2516] I'm like, come on.

[2517] Yeah, they apparently deleted the sound, Werner Herzog, deleted the recording.

[2518] had the lady delete the recording because they were worried that it was going to get on the internet.

[2519] And then someone faked it.

[2520] There's like a fake recording on the internet.

[2521] Someone said there's fake and that's what bothered me too.

[2522] He clearly, in my opinion, was a mushroom tripper.

[2523] Because when he, that's seen when after the bear shits and he's, he's like, she's, this was just, this came in of her butt.

[2524] Yeah.

[2525] This was inside her.

[2526] Oh, Coco.

[2527] And now it's.

[2528] And now it's here.

[2529] It's like part of me. He's crying for him.

[2530] It's still worm.

[2531] Like, what happened this kid behind his shed when he was like eight years old?

[2532] Something happened.

[2533] He was very unhealthy.

[2534] Oh, something happened.

[2535] But yeah.

[2536] That guy wanted to die.

[2537] I think so.

[2538] I think that was suicide by bear because he knew enough about bears to know that you're not supposed to go there.

[2539] He went, he was staying there when the bears were supposed to be in hibernation, which is when the most dangerous bears are out.

[2540] They're starving.

[2541] They're starving.

[2542] Yeah.

[2543] They're starving.

[2544] And he was around these bears while they were starving.

[2545] and who's in you know within like fucking 30 yards of them talking to them i don't know i think you know sometimes people think now there listen i've had experiences where i think now the animal and i are connecting and so yeah you he may have thought like our souls definitely connect and we are yeah but that shit is in your head man you can connect of course it is fox you can connect with that little fox and that's probably probably why he was so confused because he did connect with that little fox they could dudes with lions and all that i had i i almost got myself killed i was in corpus corpus christi years ago i just ran into this guy again years ago me and my wife go there he comes to show he's like you want to uh you want i i raised big cats you got fuckers missing fingers and teeth and everyone's like no people sleep over his house it's a big thing was it tiger king did you meet tiger king no i never watched that show what no i want TV, man. I don't watch TV, movies not that.

[2546] Why did you not watch Tiger King, though?

[2547] There's no appeal for me. Just hearing the way people talk, it's like...

[2548] It's amazing.

[2549] I thought it was a great distraction when COVID came out.

[2550] It was.

[2551] But to me, I thought it was well -planned.

[2552] I watched it again recently.

[2553] I haven't watched it.

[2554] I forgot how amazing it was.

[2555] I'm sure it was.

[2556] It's amazing.

[2557] I'm sure it is.

[2558] It's amazing.

[2559] I'm sure it is.

[2560] I'm trying to talk you into it.

[2561] It's like Grizzly, man, but six hours long.

[2562] I'm sure it's the greatest Jamie, tell him Pretty good You're a communist Fuck is pretty good It's amazing Everything's amazing All those people that have those cats Are all out of their fucking mind But that's what I'm saying You reach a point where No, the cat loves him You see videos where the guy goes In the lion cubs and he hugs him He's in a while Yeah That guy's crazy They're not wise.

[2563] Is this close?

[2564] I think that's what happened to the grizzly guy.

[2565] He went, no, he really loved me. No, that's a different situation.

[2566] You think?

[2567] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2568] Because I think that guy, first of all, I think he was a societal outcast.

[2569] I think he got some weird sort of power and satisfaction by pretending that he's out there protecting those animals.

[2570] Because that's one of the things that he would say.

[2571] Right.

[2572] He's like, I'm out here protecting them.

[2573] Where's the government?

[2574] where are you park rangers you motherfuckers remember when he goes on that crazy rant yes yeah and if it weren't for me sally and and sherry and cocoa would all be dead yeah but meanwhile they you know these animals are ruthless they kill each other that was the other thing that he found he found they were eating cubs and he still stuck around remember like you found a paw of one of them right yeah they they'll eat cubs the males in particular will eat their own cubs those cubs had their right those bears had their own little picnic it.

[2575] They don't give a fuck, man. There was the thing that Werner Herzog said that he saw something that I didn't see.

[2576] I look in their eyes.

[2577] I see indifference and ruthless nature.

[2578] Like what you said.

[2579] Yeah, that's what they are.

[2580] You made the eyes.

[2581] Do the eyes.

[2582] Like this.

[2583] They're killing machines.

[2584] I mean, they're beautiful and amazing and I'm glad they're alive.

[2585] I'm glad they're a thing.

[2586] I don't want grizzly bears to go extinct.

[2587] But people want to pretend that they live in some fucking Lion King movie.

[2588] You know, like, nature is not, nature is just things eating things.

[2589] That's it.

[2590] Like, that, remember the fox that he was in love with?

[2591] Remember it got torn apart by wolves?

[2592] That's right.

[2593] Animals, we're all, we're the only, I don't know what we are.

[2594] But until we showed up, everything just ate one another.

[2595] Yeah.

[2596] And then we showed up, and I don't know, we got eaten or we ate.

[2597] We got eaten, for sure.

[2598] We got eaten until we didn't.

[2599] People still get eaten.

[2600] Africa, India.

[2601] So I never understood, like, what are we?

[2602] A friend of mine is a professional hunter, and he got hired, his name's Jim Shockey, and he got hired to go to, I want to say it's Tanzania?

[2603] Yeah.

[2604] Maybe Tanzania is in Bombay.

[2605] I forget which river system it was at.

[2606] And they had man -eating crocodiles there, and they needed him to help.

[2607] And he said everyone in the town was missing a hand, people were like chunks taken out of their legs.

[2608] because there were so many crocodiles and while he was there one of the women in the village got taken by a crocodile and dragged into the river and so he hunted them and killed them for them for these people it's wild shit dude that's the real world we just created shelters and cities and it protects us from those things but then once we're protected then we start getting delusional and think that somehow or another we're separate from the food chain but we're not we're not we're not we're not we're not we're just aware We're aware of things.

[2609] We could take in variables, and we have emotions that other animals just don't possess.

[2610] Weird emotions, you know?

[2611] I just think about that, too, but I'm not sure.

[2612] Maybe they do have emotions and we're unaware of them.

[2613] Animals have emotions, for sure.

[2614] But domestic animals are the ones that have the most tangible emotions.

[2615] Like, my dog is very emotional.

[2616] He's emotional with me. He gets so happy when he sees me, whines and whimpers and kisses me. and like he's he's a love machine he's all filled with love but he's also very protected he's super loved he has food every day he's been with me since he was a little baby and so he's always been in this loving environment with my daughters and everyone all the people that come over my house love them everybody loves them right so of course he's like that but if you're around feral dogs feral dogs are dangerous because no one's taking care of them so they're dangerous just like dangerous people people that have been abused people People that have been abused, people that have had to grow up in horrible crime -ridden environments, they're dangerous.

[2617] And it's amazing if you change the environment, it all changes.

[2618] Yeah.

[2619] It all changes.

[2620] I know that by fact.

[2621] But dangerous people, programming is really difficult to shake.

[2622] Like, if you grow up dangerous.

[2623] Yes.

[2624] It's very hard for dangerous people to become non -dangerous, especially if they've been through the prison system, then it's even more difficult, right?

[2625] I have experience of people from the prison experience.

[2626] Not dangerous people, but they ended up there.

[2627] And it really was because of their environment.

[2628] And then when they got out, I was like, okay, do we, is there still a good soul here?

[2629] Right.

[2630] Is this fixable?

[2631] Are they far worse than they were before they went?

[2632] Or they were worse?

[2633] And I tell you, it worked out for the better, thank God.

[2634] But I knew a dude who worked out the worst way possible.

[2635] He went away.

[2636] When we were kids, I used to do martial arts with him when I was like 15, 16, and then he went away.

[2637] He was a little older than me. He went away and came out when I was like 20, 20 or 21.

[2638] And he was, first of all, he was jacked.

[2639] He came out jacked.

[2640] and like just hard and mean he went in for drug selling drugs he went away for a couple of years and uh came out and just was a fucking hardened criminal and then got arrested while i knew him um he said he didn't do it but there was a crime that somehow or he was connected to he was connected to the crime or he knew someone who was connected to a crime of a guy who was beaten to death with a hammer and the guy was chopped up they cut his hands off they all of his bones were broken and apparently they had kept him alive and conscious by injecting him with cocaine while they were torturing him so they were torturing this guy and then injecting him with cocaine when he would black out from the pain dude heavy heavy heavy shit that's this guy that's a grudge yeah this guy that I knew, he's dead now, but this guy that I knew, he got arrested for that while I knew him.

[2641] And I was like, wow.

[2642] Yeah, that's a grudge.

[2643] Yeah.

[2644] And I don't think he was, uh, I don't think they booked him for it.

[2645] I think they brought him in for questioning.

[2646] I don't remember exactly, but I remember like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you had something to do with that?

[2647] And he's like, no, no, I didn't know nothing to do with that.

[2648] I'm like, okay.

[2649] But you never know.

[2650] Guess who they didn't arrest me?

[2651] Yeah.

[2652] Guess who definitely didn't have something.

[2653] to do with it me yeah yeah but he he came out way dangerous and uh he was a one of my sparring partners and when we were spar it was a fight there was no sparring it was a fight to the death wow it was crazy wow now he would just come at you yeah my scenario didn't turn out like that it came out really good took a while yeah took a long while but it turned out really good look some guys they they realized when they're in jail they never want to be in there again they realize because it's so horrible they never want to be in there again but the thing is like how do you get someone who's on the wrong road they're a bad person and what does jail do to them to make them a good person not a lot there's not a lot of emphasis in that nope and again a lot of times just it's the environment you grew up in so when are you when is your gig do you have a gig tonight yeah I got a kick tonight we're at in two minutes it's four o 'clock already where's your gig yeah we did three hours bro damn I don't know time flies in here um where are you at tonight you don't even know you still don't know the nutty brown the nutty brown okay what time's your show six oh jesus let's wrap this up you gotta eat six o 'clock jim brewer you're the fucking man i love you it's always great to see you my friend so awesome so excited for you i'm i'm happy you're you're doing well and i'm happy you're happy and torn life it's always great to see you too um tell people uh your instagram social jimbrewer dot com There you go.

[2654] The Facebook and Instagram.

[2655] It's all connected.

[2656] All connected.

[2657] Okay.

[2658] Yeah.

[2659] I love you, buddy.

[2660] I love you too, bro.

[2661] All right.

[2662] Bye, everybody.