06 Feb 24 – The Truth Is Clear and It Doesn’t Change

[0] Welcome to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[1] I'm still a little under the weather, but we're going to make it.

[2] Mr. Strickland, thanks again for taking this time to share the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[3] Thanks, Terry.

[4] Thank you.

[5] You've got lots of tweets.

[6] You've been encouraging us to read different articles, and I think it's all good.

[7] But one thing I have noticed is that you seem to be getting invited to a lot of pro -life fundraisers.

[8] and I think people recognize that you're very outspoken for the unborn.

[9] I know you're going to be in Louisiana, I think, to March 21st, and you're also being invited to men's marches.

[10] I'll be there with you in the early March.

[11] Is it because you're now retired, so to speak, that you can say yes to a lot of these requests to speak at pro -life and also the men's movement with the marches for life?

[12] Yeah, my calendar is open.

[13] It's getting full, and really, Terry, as I've said, when people want me to talk about Mary, the Eucharist or the sanctity of life, I'm all in.

[14] Amen.

[15] I'm with you on that.

[16] All right.

[17] Well, one of the things you tweeted to us that, and this is obviously, this is January 31st, the Feast of Don Bosco, great saint, but you talked on, and I hope people can still join some of the novena.

[18] You've been a big promoter of this novena to St. Joseph, patron of the Universal Church.

[19] I know it began on the 26th and concludes on the Feast of St. Joseph March 19th.

[20] And you said, let us pray for the church to be healed and purified.

[21] and I mentioned this because it's a great way of praying for the church through novenas.

[22] And so I just wanted to ask you, is this, now this isn't the first time you've prayed this novena before heaven?

[23] Didn't you do it last year too?

[24] Yeah, I've done it a few times.

[25] That's what I thought.

[26] But I think it, and I've had people say that they have really, not prayed the rosary that much.

[27] And once they got in the habit with the 54 -day novena, they started praying the rosary more regularly.

[28] So I think that makes a big difference.

[29] That's awesome.

[30] You also mentioned in a tweet, somebody had sent to you, Bishop Strickland, thank you for resisting the pressure to bless sin and pretend you're not.

[31] May many more shepherds join you.

[32] And I think what he's saying is you took a stand for truth, and you're willing to do that even if it means persecution.

[33] And I say the same thing.

[34] I say, thank you, because I'm convinced, and I see it coming right now in the church.

[35] Many shepherds are saying, wait a minute.

[36] I can't bless sin.

[37] Look at Africa, for example.

[38] Your thoughts?

[39] Yeah, I think we've got to speak up.

[40] And I'm glad to do it.

[41] Like I said, the sanctity of life really is an issue like we were talking about before we started recording that more and more the society is going toward death.

[42] Yes.

[43] I mean, Pope St. John Paul II used to talk about the culture of death that was plaguing us.

[44] And sadly, it's ramped up even more, especially in the past few years.

[45] And we've got to continue to our only future, our only hope is to return to respecting life is coming from God as sacred and as a treasure that needs to be nurtured and cared for and not disposed of at our whim.

[46] It's just devastating to hear more and more episodes of people convicted of standing for pro -lott.

[47] It's just, it's really, we've got to very clearly speak against this agenda because it harms all of humanity.

[48] It's not just one country or one state, but it's all of humanity that ultimately is harmed by this agenda of death.

[49] Well, you just mentioned, you know, standing up for life, there's a gentleman, a very famous movie star called Kevin James.

[50] and he's from Los Angeles.

[51] He moved back to Florida.

[52] But when he was in California, Jesse Romero and his brother, Johnny, personally instructed him back to the faith.

[53] And we got him all of Scott Hahn's material to study his faith.

[54] And he became a high information Catholic.

[55] And he just recently did a comedy.

[56] And he basically said something very inappropriate for the world standards, what I thought was outstanding.

[57] He talked about euthanasia, and he said, no doctor is going to pull the plug on me. My life came from God, and my life will go to God when he calls me home.

[58] And I say that because this was a movie star who's A -rated.

[59] And for him willing to say that really shows me that he's willing to take it for Jesus.

[60] And so I say that to you, Bishop Strickland, because you've done the same thing but this is a movie star who you know people are looked up at as you know heroes and he's now standing up for life i just i thought that was very edifying yeah and it is good i mean people do pay attention to movie stars and it's good when they're on the right side of the message yeah you got that right as a matter of fact something you You mentioned about people being put in prison for being pro -lifers just this week.

[61] Six pro -lifers were found guilty of federal felonies in Tennessee.

[62] It was a rescue, and they faced a 10 -year -plus prison, plus up to $260 ,000 in fines.

[63] And what's really interesting about this, it reminds me of the 1980s when I was involved with Operation rescue.

[64] And 50 ,000 Christians, they're all Christians, Protestant and Catholic, were arrested in a one -year period.

[65] And what did we say?

[66] Abortion is murder.

[67] We're going to put our bodies on the line to say, this isn't right.

[68] And what I'm noticing, Bishop Strickland, is our country now, 30, 40 years later, when people do the same thing, they're arresting them and putting federal charges on them for the same charges that you would get if you blocked a freeway because you were protesting something going on in the Middle East.

[69] It happened last month.

[70] But here's the point.

[71] None of those people ever get prosecuted.

[72] So it seems like it's selective.

[73] It seems like if you're pro -life, our country is going to do whatever it can to make you pay the ultimate price?

[74] Yeah, it seems to be more and more of the trend.

[75] But we have to be undaunted.

[76] There's really no future in a culture that embraces death and denies the sanctity of life and the author of life, which is God.

[77] So we've got to continue to speak up and remember that it's the most loving thing to do for even those people that are adamantly against life.

[78] Ironically, God is giving them life and has given them the free will to make those terrible choices.

[79] We pray for conversion, but we have to just continue to speak up always regarding the sanctity of life of every person, even the person who has no regard for life.

[80] I agree.

[81] That's exactly right.

[82] Well, we're going to get into an article you had asked everyone to read.

[83] You said this article should be read by every Catholic who knows and loves the church.

[84] She is the bride of Christ.

[85] She proclaims truth with logic and charity.

[86] And Father Brooke speaks as a son of the church who knows and loves her.

[87] Let us heed his clear presentation of truth.

[88] Now, first of all, this is an article from Edward Penton, who is a National Catholic Register, a writer.

[89] and he's been known for doing this for years, and he's very good.

[90] But this is a priest who was a former consultant to the doctrine of the faith.

[91] So this is not someone, you know, who just got newly ordained or someone who hasn't had any responsibility.

[92] This is someone who worked in the CDF.

[93] He said he believes that because fiducius supplicans does not belong to the authentic magisterium, it is not binding and so one cannot even adhere to it with religious assent of will and intellect.

[94] Now, I happen to believe he's spot on but I think he, in this interview, it's worth going through it because he answers a lot of questions.

[95] So let me see if I can get through this.

[96] He also called for the resignation and the dismissal of the principal author, Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez.

[97] and because either he has bad faith or he's ignorant on the faith, that he signed it.

[98] And so I think this is a very bold move for a priest to do this because I would say that he's going to pay a big price for answering these questions because he just lays it out very quickly and very simply.

[99] In this January 18th interview, he just basically runs through a bunch of questions, and I'll go through him with you, Bishop Strickland.

[100] He says this, that the drama of the church today is the separation of the pastoral from the doctrine that is of love from truth.

[101] Father Bloch says, we are paying dearly for it as John Paul II predicted.

[102] you've said something very similar bishop strickland your thoughts yeah well yeah it i think this article as i said it's it's important and people need to be informed of the truth of their faith and uh to stand strong to stand strong for the truth very good when we come back we'll continue with this article here on the bishop strickland hour on virgin most powerful radio us family.

[103] And now back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[104] I don't, yeah, very welcome back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[105] We were just talking about an article by a very courageous priest who worked at the CDF, Father Buck's.

[106] That's called the congregation of Doctor of Faith.

[107] That's what it was when he was there.

[108] And he basically makes a point about the drama of the church today is the separation of the pastoral from doctrinal that is a love from truth.

[109] I remember Father Bill Casey, like it was yesterday, 20 years ago, said the most merciless thing you can do to somebody is let them wallow in their sin.

[110] And it seems today, Bishop Strickland, many of us in the church, I don't know if his courage, I don't know why, I can't say why they do it, but it seems that we're very consistent now that we don't want to call the sinner to repentance.

[111] We just want them to come.

[112] You know, all are welcomed, you know, but that's not the full gospel.

[113] And so this priest also makes a very bold statement.

[114] He's encouraging Pope Francis to cancel fiducius supplicant and replace the prefect with a man of sure, sound, and pure doctrine to use the Apostle's words to take.

[115] Titus, very biblical, you know, I thought that's pretty bold for a priest to say.

[116] I want to see what happens to him because what he's asking to do, the Holy See to do, is be very bold and for the good of the church do the right thing.

[117] But Ed Pitten asked Father, what has been the general reaction to the fiducius supplican in Italy, mostly contrary to the to your opinion, supportive, or ambivalent.

[118] Now, Bishop Strickland, this guy, there's no guile in him.

[119] I mean, you ask him a question.

[120] I like it.

[121] He gives you an answer.

[122] He says this, because of their proximity to the Holy See, Italian bishops seem to be like dumb dogs.

[123] Wow.

[124] They approve or they dissent or they fear reprisal.

[125] Bishop Strickland, I'm going to stop right there.

[126] They fear reprisal.

[127] I'm convinced if we have more prelates and more priests who say, I've got to do the right thing, my conscience tells me I can't do X, Y, or Z because it's contrary to a biblical worldview.

[128] That is impressive.

[129] And I think doesn't that ring with you because of your situation?

[130] you wouldn't compromise what your conscience said was true.

[131] Yeah, well, we have to pray that more and more we'll speak up because to be intimidated to not speak the truth, I constantly go back to, I know we've talked about it before, but St. Peter and the Acts of the Apostles, they tell him quit using the name Jesus.

[132] And he says, sorry, they joyfully embrace whatever suffering for the name of Jesus Christ.

[133] We've got to be at least aiming to be like those original apostles.

[134] It's the same truth.

[135] Christ hasn't changed.

[136] He's yesterday, today, and forever.

[137] We really need to keep repeating this because hopefully more and more will be strengthened.

[138] And, you know, it really is sad that we, I mean, I agree.

[139] It is bold what this priest is saying and speaking and the truth is bold, but it shouldn't be.

[140] No, it shouldn't.

[141] It should just be the standard that we live by.

[142] Right.

[143] But it's become bold because so few are willing to just do the right thing and speak the truth.

[144] It's not complicated.

[145] It's not confusing.

[146] It's challenging.

[147] But it's not this murky, you know, confused, convoluted idea that, well, we just can't figure this out.

[148] That isn't the truth.

[149] The truth is clear.

[150] And it doesn't change.

[151] So that's why I was compelled to share this article because hopefully more and more will read it.

[152] But hopefully also it will improve.

[153] bold and priest to echo what this priest is saying.

[154] Not attacking anyone, but simply speaking the truth and challenging the church to be who she's called to be, the bride of Christ, who proclaims the truth.

[155] The world didn't like it when Jesus said it.

[156] And he said, the world hated me first.

[157] The world will hate us.

[158] Yes.

[159] But because we love the world and God.

[160] loves everyone, we've got the obligation to joyfully and clearly share the truth over and over again and continue, even when people reject it, which they have the freedom to do so, that freedom is God -given, and that has to be respected.

[161] But that doesn't mean we shouldn't speak up to call people to a change of heart and to the truth.

[162] I mean, that's what Christ does.

[163] In the gospel, John the Baptist starts it off, and Christ continues the same thing.

[164] Repent and believe in the gospel.

[165] That's Mark.

[166] I love that.

[167] Now, one of the things he does for us is he said, for sure, fiducius supplicant does not belong to the authentic magistrarium.

[168] Bold statement.

[169] and is therefore not binding because what it affirmed is not contained.

[170] And this is the key, this is what we've been saying for a long time, that contained in a written or transmitted word of God and which the church, the Roman pontiff, or the College of Bishops, either definitively, that is by solemn judgment, or by with ordinary universal magisterium, proposes to believe as divinely revealed, one cannot even adhere to it with religious assent of will and intellect.

[171] Now, Bishop Strickland, a lot of people are going to say, the Pope signed off on that.

[172] But it seems to me that paragraph, that short paragraph, says it all on why we can't.

[173] And that's why I think the bishops in Africa said they're not going to implement this, and Asia and other parts.

[174] This is not what we've been taught with the Word of God, which is at the, I call it the top of the food chain.

[175] Your thought?

[176] Yeah.

[177] Well, I simply agree, and we've got to continue to speak the truth and all the issues and continue to challenge people not to be, you know, not to just go with the world.

[178] Yeah.

[179] But to be the light of Christ.

[180] We're supposed to be salt and light.

[181] Yeah.

[182] And to just go along with what the world is saying is not being salt and light.

[183] Oh, it really isn't.

[184] And then Ed Pitton asked them the question, what do you think of the January 4th press released aimed at clarifying the statements?

[185] Did it resolve anything?

[186] Remember, when this came out, there wasn't going to be anything more set on it.

[187] But because so many prelates around the world said, wait a minute, this isn't what the Catholic Church teaches.

[188] So, he said, ignorance predominates in the majority of the baptized due to the fact that for decades, social issues have been preferred to catechesis.

[189] That statement right there says it all, man, for irregular heterosexual and homosexual couples.

[190] And I'm just going to back up, I'm going to correct him, right?

[191] I mean it.

[192] I correct him in the sense of clarity.

[193] When we use this word Irregular Unions We think of people who are married But they're not married in the church They're married You know, they already have one wife They don't, they can't, you know, they're irregular Because they're not within the regular means of man and women But to me Adultery is a better word than irregular I think irregular is a soft word when you're describing someone who's living an objective, but notice they said objective, mortal sin.

[194] Why can't we just use adultery or fornication?

[195] Whatever we're clarifying some sexual sin, use biblical terms.

[196] Okay, so he says, for her regular homosexual and homosexual couples, what now applies is love is love.

[197] How many times we heard that in the 60s?

[198] Those who are used logic are opposed to it, and then the second dubia of the Cardinals arises, says, is it possible that under certain circumstances, a pastor could bless unions between homosexual persons, thus suggesting that homosexual behavior as such would not be contrary to God's law and the person's path to God?

[199] This guy speaks so clear.

[200] I just love it, Bishop Strickland.

[201] He says, tied to this question is, another, does the teaching upheld by the universal ordinary and magisterium continue to be valid?

[202] I was going to put, or is there an expiration date on truth?

[203] No. Every sexual act outside of marriage, this is so clear, the church, in particular homosexual acts, constitutes an objectively grave sin against God's law.

[204] That's right in the catechism with the Catholic Church.

[205] regardless of the circumstances in which it takes place and the intentions with which it is carried out.

[206] So the January 4th statement is a classic attempt to paper over the cracks.

[207] Your thoughts?

[208] Well, I just think he says it very well.

[209] And we just have to, you know, have to continue to share the truth.

[210] and hope that more and more people will simply say, no, we're not going to, you know, pretend that the truth has changed.

[211] And the sad thing is, is the number of people, as he mentions, there's tremendous ignorance of the faith, even from active Catholics.

[212] And that's why I've encouraged people don't leave the church, but know the church.

[213] better, know Christ better.

[214] Learn more and defend the faith from your own understanding, from what you've learned, and not just from listening to someone else.

[215] Well, said, and again, you were the one who said this from the very beginning when this document came out, just say no. And many bishops, many priests, many lay people have taken that heed.

[216] And I hope and pray with, that the church will reconsider putting that document out in because the damage that that's going to cause to the salvation of souls is incredible.

[217] Before we move on to the next question in this article, I want to remind people about Bishop Strickland's YouTube channel.

[218] He's started it.

[219] He's got like five or six minutes talks on different topics throughout the liturgical year.

[220] Bishop, can you tell us a little bit more about that?

[221] Yeah, just five or six minute topics.

[222] There's actually one, as we record this today, on St. John Bosco.

[223] Good.

[224] In the significance of the vision that he had with a church in a terrible storm as a ship in a terrible storm anchored to our Lord in the Eucharist and the Blessed Mary.

[225] Mary, that is such a timely vision for our time.

[226] Those actors, we have to hold.

[227] Amen, stay with us, family.

[228] You're listening to the Bishop Strickland Hour with Terry Barber on Virgin Most Powerful radio.

[229] We'll be back in a quick minute.

[230] And now back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[231] Welcome back, indeed.

[232] We're talking about a great article that Father Brooks wrote regarding fiducius supplicans.

[233] And he basically, it's an article that Edward Pitten from the National Catholic Register just interviewed him and asked direct questions, and he gave direct answers.

[234] One of the questions was, do you agree that the statements expose division that were already present but are now in the open?

[235] Benedict the 16th in his notes of April 11th, 2019, described the origin.

[236] of the debacle of Catholic morality, and thus also divisions among Catholics because of the deeming cohabitation of both heterosexual and homosexual couples is not sinful.

[237] A division of schism previously submerged has now emerged, whether it will be formally declared at an upcoming ecclesial event, such as a Senna or conclave, we shall have.

[238] see.

[239] Certainly, the next Pope will have to do an accounting and decide whether to deepen the division or mend it by conveying a council.

[240] Whoever is a candidate for Pope will have to be asked in the pre -conclave congregation to the answer of the dubia accumulated since 2015, or else the division of the church will deepen.

[241] You know, I read that and I went, man, this guy is spot on.

[242] Is he strictly your thoughts?

[243] He's spot on, and he's bold enough to be willing to say what is true when so many are unwilling to say it with such clarity.

[244] Yeah.

[245] And really looking, he describes the situation we're in.

[246] And we have to pray that many will come to recognize that, you know, it really, you know, like we say so often, we don't need his opinion.

[247] We need what the church teaches.

[248] Amen.

[249] And that's presenting.

[250] And we've got to return to that vigorously and pray that all the bishops in the world will guide all the priests to simply embrace.

[251] the truth more deeply for the sake of the church and for the sake of humanity.

[252] The human race needs the church that the Son of God established to guide us, especially through these challenging times, these confusing times.

[253] And we're not hearing the voice of the church with the clarity that we need to hear.

[254] we need a much stronger voice.

[255] You know, Bishop Strickland, years ago you told me, that you were ordained, I think, what, 1985?

[256] Is that right?

[257] Okay.

[258] So 85, you were in the seminary in the 80s.

[259] That was a tough time, at least out here in California, to be in the seminary.

[260] There wasn't a lot of good, solid catechesis, especially when philosophy and theology.

[261] now I know you've got some good philosophy because I know where you went to school in Dallas but can you appreciate your generation of priests who have had to supplement a lot of the formation after ordination because I think you've done that yourself.

[262] Have you not?

[263] Absolutely.

[264] And if they're not supplementing it, they're left in ignorance and that leaves us in a difficult place because the priest needs to be the one to know the faith and to teach the faith.

[265] And I'm still on a learning curve myself because it just like this article said, Father Buck said earlier that you read, the focus has been on social issues and not on the doctrines of our faith.

[266] And we've kind of flipped everything.

[267] and forgotten that following Jesus Christ is the solution to all the social ills that are very real and very detrimental to the human family.

[268] But Jesus Christ is the answer in that we need to go back to the truth that has been revealed by Christ himself through sacred scripture and through the church through the ages.

[269] well said and one more follow -up before i continue on this article it seems to me chatting with you over the years of your own thirst for knowledge on the faith i mean you're ordained a priest then you become the bishop of tyler but if i'm saying something out of school and it's not true then you repeat but it seemed to me that when you were called to you to be a bishop that seemed to turn another switch on for you to really say wait a minute, I have more responsibility that means I really have an obligation to really not only know my faith but to live it and to basically share it with the world.

[270] Am I on to something?

[271] Yeah, absolutely Terry.

[272] I made a very conscious decision a few years after I became a bishop to kind of break out of the mold that I was seeing and to teach the truth.

[273] To simply say it's about being a successor of the apostles and teaching the truth in every dimension that we possibly can, the sanctity of life, the sanctity of the sacraments, the power of the Word of God, the truth that really allows us to flourish as God's people, that created the church that we know.

[274] with the great minds through the ages that have helped us to know the truth more deeply.

[275] So we just have to keep at it and trust that these false messages, I constantly go back to Galatians chapter 1, verse 8, where St. Paul says, even if an angel comes from heaven with a different gospel, right let them be anathema another translation let them be a curse yep the wrong language sure and we need to pay attention to St. Paul it's very clear and the fact that so many are not willing to embrace that and just say we've got to live by Galatians chapter 1 verse 8 there is no new gospel.

[276] There's no new understanding of the gospel.

[277] There can be a deeper understanding, but it doesn't become yes yesterday and no today, and that's what we're seeing.

[278] Yes.

[279] And we have to say no. We have to resist with great charity.

[280] It's the greatest act of charity to resist this false message.

[281] And that's why I think St. Paul is so strong and so clear.

[282] I mean, a current.

[283] or anathema, or any translation of what he said, that's a very strong message.

[284] Certainly is.

[285] And we've got to listen.

[286] Well said.

[287] One of the other questions Ed Pitton asked, the father, says, why do you think there's been opposition mainly in Africa, Central, Eastern Europe, and not so much in the United States and of other mainly Western countries?

[288] I had that question myself.

[289] Why?

[290] I mean, come on.

[291] He says, because in these areas, in the northern and western hemisphere, after Vatican 2, man, he says it, the church contrasted the relativist ideology that had been penetrated in morality and demolished natural law with the formation in doctrine and the life in Christ.

[292] That is Catholic morality fighting neo -pagan thinking.

[293] Father, why don't you really tell me what you think?

[294] Wow.

[295] Thus, the people remained faithful.

[296] Then ask a Jew if it's a blessing when it does not have a sacredness.

[297] Let's say it's not liturgical and whether you can bless something that God curses, such as sin against nature.

[298] A Jewish friend who heard about fiducius supplicant told me, doesn't the Pope know the Bible?

[299] I thought, oh my gosh, I've had that question to me too from my Protestant brothers.

[300] It's embarrassing to have to say, you think he would?

[301] Pray for him.

[302] Because he says, not to mention the ridicule of Muslims and the distancing of the Orthodox who have declared unity with Catholics impossible.

[303] Feduccio supplicant communicates are the result of the prefect Fernandez's ignorance.

[304] I think he's being generous to him.

[305] Yeah, ignorance.

[306] But you know, Father, Bishop Strickland, you know, before I answer that question, it seems to me that not only is this going to hurt our separated brethren, but if you're in Africa and you've got Islam on the march and they go to tell people, hey, you don't want to be a Christian, you don't want to be a Catholic, look what they believe about homosexuality.

[307] In their mind, they're going to say, yeah, look, everybody knows it.

[308] But as Islam, we don't.

[309] We reject that.

[310] So it's going to hurt, I think, a lot of the evangelization efforts in the church.

[311] Do you agree with that?

[312] position?

[313] Yeah, absolutely.

[314] It hurts the proclamation of the truth because it contradicts it.

[315] And that contradiction, it won't stand.

[316] It's not changing anything, but it's giving people who are against the church some significant weapons that can do a lot of harm.

[317] and continue the confusion and the rejection of the message of Jesus Christ.

[318] That one thing we need to remember, it's not our message.

[319] Oh.

[320] Not ours to twist and change.

[321] It's the message of God's divine son.

[322] And we are only stewards of the message.

[323] We're not the authors.

[324] And we have an obligation to steward it.

[325] for the world today and for the world tomorrow for the children like your grandchildren they deserve to receive the same message proclaimed by the son of god as we have amen to twist and change that reshape it and dilute it diminished significance is a privacy against humanity well said couldn't it better myself and that was exactly why we are willing to make this stand because it's the truth and it's the truth that sets us free.

[326] Stayed with us family.

[327] And now back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[328] Welcome back indeed.

[329] Wow Bishop Strickland, this priest is really amazing because he's speaking the truth in charity just what we need today in so many areas.

[330] He has, Dr. Strickland, he's Excuse me, Mr. Pinton, asking the question, what is the best way to resolve confusion and division resulting from fiducial supplicants?

[331] I think that's a great question because the confusion is incredible.

[332] He says, explain that there's nothing pastoral without pastoral meal because doctrine is actually like food.

[333] I never saw, I never thought this analogy.

[334] Doctrine is food, the possessor of which is he who distributes it, St. Gregory Nassian.

[335] Doctrine, therefore, is pastoral, but if the shepherd does not have it, he cannot do pastoral work.

[336] That's a pretty strong statement right there.

[337] Wow.

[338] The drama of the church, excuse me, the drama of the church today is the separation of the pastoral from the doctrine that is of love from truth.

[339] And when we are paying dearly for it, as John Paul II predicted, Pope Francis should cancel fiducius supplication.

[340] and replaced the prefect with a man of sure, sound, and pure doctrine to use the apostle's words to Titus.

[341] Boy, he just gave a very good answer because sometimes Bishop Strickland, if this is my take, pastoral and doctrine, they try to separate the two that you can't have both, and you really can.

[342] Yeah.

[343] Well, really, Terry, his writing reminds me of what I learned when I studied canon law.

[344] Because honestly, I went to study Canada law with sort of a negative perspective that, oh, it's the law, and it's legalistic, and it's uncaring.

[345] And I really wasn't too interested in studying it.

[346] But as I did study it and had some excellent professors, I really came.

[347] came to understand that knowing the law and using the law properly is a great part of charity because the purpose of the law, and I know what we've said it many times, but the last canon and the code of canon law says all of this, all of these laws are about the salvation of souls.

[348] And if that's not pastoral, I don't know what is.

[349] That's what pastoral means is to be about saving the souls of the sheep of God's children to be guided to their destiny, their God's destiny for them in everlasting life.

[350] So there is no conflict between pastoral and doctrinal or the truth and the pastoral approach to how that truth is shared because ultimately the law of God is what helps us to to be who we are right to be to live in the image and likeness of God we have to know God and know ourselves and that's what the truth in the laws of the truth that's what it's all about.

[351] So I think this priest really, that's the reason I shared the article.

[352] It really just struck me that it says it so well, and he touches on so many important points.

[353] As I said, I wasn't exaggerating.

[354] I think every Catholic should read it.

[355] Many won't, and many will outright reject it before they read it.

[356] But I hope that many will read it, and those who may not.

[357] know their faith well, but have the right heart and are seeking the truth, that it will reinforce and strengthen them to be more clear about the truth and to say, oh, well, we need to do the pastoral thing.

[358] The pastoral thing should never be in conflict with doing what is true and right.

[359] Amen.

[360] I wish we could implement that.

[361] The final question, Ed Penton, asked the priest, How do you think this affair will affect the notched conclave?

[362] He says, surely the next pope, if he does not want to be one only for one part of the church, will have to ask himself the question.

[363] Oh man, fundamental question.

[364] What is the mission of the church?

[365] That of conforming to the world, are saving it.

[366] I mean, wow, wow.

[367] Nails it.

[368] The unity of the Catholic Church is compromised by fiducius supplican because on such an essential moral truth, it accepts in practice opposing views among the churches scattered around the world.

[369] One example, the new bishop of Fagia said that his church will be the Church of Francis who blesses all.

[370] but is the church not Jesus Christ's church?

[371] Wow, wow.

[372] That's bold.

[373] Bernadis discredited himself by publishing a document that is opposed to that of his predecessor, which the Ladara back in 2021, everybody quoted saying you can't bless sin.

[374] He said, would it be a development or rather a heterogeneous genesis of doctrine?

[375] the dexterity of the Holy See has humiliated themselves.

[376] Someone has already renamed, oh my gosh, I didn't catch this when I read it the first time, has renamed the dexterity for the destruction of the faith.

[377] Oh my gosh.

[378] I'm just, I mean, do you realize what he just said?

[379] Oh, my, this guy, he's, are you wanting to be, man, This is a strong language, but, you know, he's on it.

[380] We need to pray for our leaders in our church.

[381] He said, supplicant of ignorance and bad faith will weigh in.

[382] Fernandez in any document he signs later.

[383] And then the priest says he should resign.

[384] I think he should resign for the good of the church because of the confusion and problems that has caused worldwide.

[385] In my lifetime, and I bet in yours, I've never seen any document get this kind of response, Bishop Strickland.

[386] Well, the most controversial, and it was when we were kids, but Jimane Vite, sort of everybody on different sides with that, and many of the bishop rejecting what was the truth that we know more deeply now than ever.

[387] I mean, even the issues with abortion are woven into what happened with Humane Vite.

[388] So it probably is, and it will probably go down in history, just as Humane Vite did, which was on the right side of truth, a truth that people didn't want to hear.

[389] But more and more, we're seeing the rejection of Humane Vite.

[390] we're living out the damage that that caused.

[391] And Pope Paul the 6th, I think it's in Section 8 of that document, really lays it out exactly what's happened.

[392] And we're dealing with the repercussions.

[393] We may be dealing with the repercussions of this document for a long time as well.

[394] One, express the time -honored truth of the faith, which the culture was rejecting, this document expresses a change in that truth, which the culture is embracing and just saying, oh, this is wonderful, but those who know the faith are saying, no, we can't do this.

[395] So it's sort of a reversal of the issues, but both documents, I think, are significant for the repercussions that come from rejecting the truth.

[396] Well, Bishop Strickland, at the end of this first hour for today, can we get a blessing, please?

[397] Almighty God, we ask your blessing for everyone listening to our conversation that they may not be disheartened, but may be invigorated to trust in the truth, to know Jesus Christ in his church more deeply, and to share that truth with greater vigor and joy than ever.

[398] We pray that the Holy Spirit will guide and strengthen us to know the truth of our God.

[399] In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, amen.

[400] Thank you very much, Bishop Strickland.

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