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[0] This is exactly right.
[1] Hey, this is exciting.
[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.
[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.
[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.
[5] Who killed Saz?
[6] And were they really after Charles?
[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?
[8] This season, murder hits close to home.
[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.
[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.
[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.
[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?
[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.
[14] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.
[15] Bye.
[16] So hi.
[17] Hi, Karen.
[18] It's time once again.
[19] It is.
[20] To talk about murder.
[21] Murder.
[22] Welcome to my favorite murder.
[23] Hi, welcome.
[24] That was Georgia.
[25] That's Karen.
[26] And we are here to talk to you about the thing that you want to talk about the most, because we do, too.
[27] Murder.
[28] That your friends don't want to talk about.
[29] You know what?
[30] Some people are fear -based, and that's fine.
[31] That's the way they live.
[32] They want to put their hands over their eyes and pretend like reality isn't happening.
[33] Yeah.
[34] But not us, friends.
[35] No, some of us want to just like jump into the pool of terror.
[36] Yeah.
[37] So there's an old saying, you have to go into the mouth of the ghost.
[38] That's what we do here.
[39] We are the ghost mouths.
[40] Weird adventures into ghost mouths.
[41] So suck it.
[42] Hey, did you see that the house from the first season of American Horror Story, the haunted house, you can now Airbnb that house?
[43] Can we record an episode from there?
[44] Like, oh, my God, that'd be amazing.
[45] The brick thing that has, like, the turrets and stuff?
[46] It's like a gothic.
[47] Yeah.
[48] Like arts and crafts, gothic.
[49] Where the guy from the law show lived and, like, they had the maid and stuff?
[50] Yes, yes.
[51] Okay.
[52] That, I liked that first season a lot.
[53] I did choose.
[54] Spending the night there, middle of the night, lights off, quiet.
[55] We'll do some ghosts.
[56] Hunting.
[57] Ghost stuff.
[58] Ghosty stuff.
[59] Was there a murder taking place in there at all, aside from the TV show?
[60] I know, no. Just, but it is a creepy old house.
[61] I'm into that.
[62] I mean, maybe the murder hasn't been found yet.
[63] We'll dig up the yard.
[64] Maybe it'll happen that night.
[65] Somewhere nearby.
[66] Like in the house.
[67] Dig up the yard.
[68] Just start digging for bones.
[69] We're looking for burns.
[70] We haven't talked about my new favorite show.
[71] The O .J. Simpson show.
[72] Love it.
[73] That was called.
[74] The People versus O .J. Simpson.
[75] Thank you.
[76] You're welcome.
[77] It is also one of my favorite shows.
[78] David Schwimmer.
[79] Oh, Schwann.
[80] Stop it.
[81] Stop it.
[82] What about when they were in Chin Chin.
[83] The Kardashian family went to Chin Chin.
[84] That is so L .A. if you don't live here.
[85] Chin Chin Chin is a terrible Chinese chain or delicious, depending on who you are.
[86] I haven't heard of it since the 90s.
[87] It is so 90s.
[88] Like, it's where we used to go when I moved here in 1994.
[89] Really?
[90] all the time.
[91] Oh my God.
[92] That was like the place everyone wanted to go.
[93] It was like the Ivy.
[94] Yeah, but like, but cheap and in the valley.
[95] Yeah.
[96] And the idea that they were like, we cut the line and the chin is, oh my God.
[97] Like, this is where we want to go.
[98] I went to bat mitzvahs of these kind of girls where it's like, we go to Chinch.
[99] Like I went to camp.
[100] I went to camp with the Fonsis daughter.
[101] Oh.
[102] And so they probably went to Chinchin a lot.
[103] I bet because they eat that Chinese chicken salad.
[104] Back then, everybody thought it was diet.
[105] That's how the 90s were.
[106] It's good.
[107] That show is great.
[108] I love that it's going off the premise that he totally did it.
[109] Well, yeah.
[110] Because he did.
[111] I know.
[112] Is the thing.
[113] He absolutely did.
[114] He really, really did.
[115] Because that's the thing is, as we discuss and find in all of these stories that we tell in cases that we talk about, things things things happen, A, for a reason, and B, the people that do them have histories of doing things.
[116] Oh, yeah.
[117] And it's never, it's so strange that still the legal system treats these things.
[118] things like it's out of the blue or it's like yes if a man consistently beats the shit out of his wife that will escalate that things escalate yep well you know what i think is really interesting is that instead of looking into uh the history and why and what happened exactly and what's the most obvious answer the the answer is then to give them a defense attorney to argue a fucking fantasy or like a fucking daydream that they somehow didn't do it and hear is why maybe it didn't happen, you know, or this way or that way.
[119] It's like, or just those huge distractions of like, basically they were putting the LAPD on trial, which they deserved because the Rodney King, right, said just, you know, the Rodney King beating had just happened.
[120] But that's like so not even close to the same thing, you know.
[121] But, but the argument of a black man can't get a fair trial or like, you know, that the system is against black people and black men specifically was so true and had never been really broached before.
[122] And I remember white people being like, that's crazy.
[123] Yeah.
[124] That's such a bunch of crap.
[125] And it's like, how would you know?
[126] Dude.
[127] Okay.
[128] Rodney King's trial took place in Seamy Valley with zero black people on the jury.
[129] Yeah.
[130] I think it was even all men.
[131] I mean, it was one woman.
[132] Ridiculous.
[133] No, it's bad.
[134] Seamy Valley, which is like the whitest fucking place in Los Angeles, with zero.
[135] Zero black people on the jury.
[136] Yeah.
[137] No, yeah, not a jury of his peers.
[138] No. Just crooked and bad all around.
[139] So there is a kind of like, it was a get back in a way.
[140] Yeah, it absolutely was.
[141] But it's funny to watch it.
[142] Like, that's right when I moved here.
[143] All that stuff happening.
[144] Like, we're living through it.
[145] I remember being in, I think it was Golden Apple Comics.
[146] And they were like, OJ's running.
[147] The Bronco is on the highway and running up to our friend Laura's house.
[148] And everybody just gathering there and watching.
[149] watching it on TV.
[150] Well, I just remember when the, I remember the, when the verdict was about to be read, it was like, okay, everyone knows he's guilty.
[151] He should be, he should be convicted.
[152] Nobody wants another riot.
[153] And that's, we, it was so traumatizing the first riot.
[154] Yeah.
[155] That it was like, it wasn't worth it to see him be convicted because that was fucking scary and no one wanted to go through that again.
[156] Right.
[157] So it was almost, it would have happened.
[158] Yeah.
[159] And it was almost relief when he when it was not guilty because it was like okay you know what black people deserve this after what we've fucking put them through here in los angeles yeah well it's it you know it's just weird though because when you watch it it's such a fascinating thing like watching them marcia clark and her whole team acting like it's a slam dunk case oh yeah when you know what's really gonna happen total marsha clark what's her character from american horror story she's incredible oh sarah paulson yeah that but her hair is so distracted i just all of I can do is think about how long it took to curl every piece of that.
[160] Oh, that had to be a was, was that a perm or was she like, you absolutely can't perm me. Or is it, it must have been a wig.
[161] No one, no one lets anybody perm their hair anymore.
[162] Yeah.
[163] Do they?
[164] No. I don't know.
[165] Um, the sad thing, of course, is the murder victims that just didn't get any recognition.
[166] No. No, it was not, it was not about them at all.
[167] No. I just can never forget that, I never forgot the quote that, like, Nicole was almost decapitated.
[168] That's how deep.
[169] It wasn't he slit her throat.
[170] She was almost decapitated.
[171] He was like going berserk.
[172] Yeah.
[173] He cut into, oh, God.
[174] It's crazy.
[175] It's so crazy.
[176] And like that idea of how they started the whole thing with the dog with bloody feet walking up, like the guy finding a dog.
[177] It's a good show.
[178] It's very good.
[179] And then also insanely cheesy.
[180] Yeah.
[181] It's so enjoyable.
[182] Like John Travolta, God bless him.
[183] She is killing it.
[184] She's my face.
[185] Do you think he was really like that?
[186] Robert Shapiro?
[187] Yeah.
[188] But he didn't have blue eyes.
[189] You know that.
[190] Right.
[191] It's really corny.
[192] There's so many corny things.
[193] Every single line that Marcia Clark says is like cut to commercial.
[194] Like she can't say a line without it cutting to commercial.
[195] But the best was at the end of the last episode.
[196] Oh, spoiler alert.
[197] When she sees.
[198] She just goes, motherfucker.
[199] Yeah.
[200] I think that's the first motherfucker on TV, right?
[201] I think so.
[202] Because it's FX, right?
[203] So they're a little edgy.
[204] When she says a motherfucker.
[205] She says that about...
[206] Johnny Cochran.
[207] Yeah.
[208] He joined the team.
[209] And he's...
[210] His story's great, too.
[211] Oh, it's...
[212] Everyone is...
[213] Yeah.
[214] But I really just want to hug David Schwimmer.
[215] Yeah, because he's such a...
[216] Who knew that...
[217] Was it Robert Kardashian?
[218] Yeah.
[219] Who knew he was such a great guy?
[220] Who knew he was a great guy that would spawn the literal devils?
[221] Like the downfall.
[222] All those discussions where they're like, you can't, it's not about fame.
[223] You have to have a good heart.
[224] Well, I keep thinking about his, are his kids watching him being like, fuck my dad, I miss my dad.
[225] Probably.
[226] It's sad.
[227] It is sad.
[228] He died, like, not too long after that, which is so sad.
[229] I'm sure, can you imagine how stressful it would have been to be that guy in that situation?
[230] That guy knows his friend is guilty and has to defend him.
[231] He also had to use the phrase Uncle Juice a lot, which I think may have been the thing that killed him.
[232] Yeah, that would be hard.
[233] juice.
[234] It's not their real uncle.
[235] Oh, Chris Jenner, killing it.
[236] Oh, Selma Blair.
[237] God bless.
[238] Do you think she was like, this is the end of my career or was she stoked about it?
[239] Stoked.
[240] Okay.
[241] Yeah, because you see all those other people on that cast.
[242] That's true.
[243] That's true.
[244] I love this.
[245] They're great.
[246] Yeah.
[247] All right.
[248] Oh, we also have to talk about the fact that we're both watching autopsy, but should we save that for?
[249] Yes.
[250] Okay.
[251] And that I actually, somebody recommend, I'm sorry I don't have the name because someone mentioned it.
[252] to us on the Twitter page.
[253] Oh, yeah.
[254] And it was a man and he said, oh, autopsy was amazing.
[255] I watched all of it.
[256] And I went, autopsy, huh?
[257] And then I looked it up and I'd never seen it.
[258] You had never heard of it or seen it?
[259] I think I may have heard of it, but I'd never seen it.
[260] I had always just figured it.
[261] And I think I had watched maybe one, the wrong episode where like he was literally just in an autopsy room cutting into someone and talking and discussing it.
[262] Yeah.
[263] Which I thought the whole thing was like that.
[264] And no, it's like, it's like case stories from this crazy guy, like his crazy corners passed and how he solved crimes based on the autopsy.
[265] Yeah.
[266] It's fascinating.
[267] And like the most, and also they kind of fold in, like I've watched a couple now the last time.
[268] The last one I was watching was number nine when I texted you.
[269] Because it's other people, they get other corners in there too because they're basically just getting all the craziest stories.
[270] Yeah.
[271] And I won't give that one away.
[272] I'll just let people watch it.
[273] It's so good.
[274] I want to know.
[275] It's what I texted you.
[276] Remember when they opened up a guy?
[277] Yes.
[278] And should I just say it?
[279] There was voodoo dolls inside.
[280] Inside his body?
[281] Oh, Karen, I read that as inside of his coffin.
[282] No. Wait a minute.
[283] Are you inside of his body?
[284] They were...
[285] That's why I was so upset.
[286] I'm gonna go.
[287] I'm gonna go cry.
[288] I thought you meant like, yeah, they, I thought, because I read it as like, they...
[289] Like, they...
[290] No. Yes.
[291] Phyllow.
[292] Yeah, I was like, that's fucked up.
[293] And it turned out the woman that ran the funeral home was practiced voodoo.
[294] You got to see her too.
[295] She is worth the entire episode.
[296] She looks totally normal, right?
[297] She has the best hair I've ever seen.
[298] And she's a badass.
[299] And she was basically trying to get rid of all the other funeral homes, like all her competitors and do better financially.
[300] So she made voodoo dolls for all of them and then sewed them up inside this man's course.
[301] At what point in that whole operation are you like, I might be a little crazy.
[302] Yeah, this might not be a great idea.
[303] Yeah, this could come back.
[304] Yeah, what will this look like from the outside?
[305] Right.
[306] Just everyone, you can be as crazy as you want, but act normal.
[307] Yeah.
[308] Or just try to step out for one second.
[309] I'd be like, if someone discovers this, how crazy will I love?
[310] Totally.
[311] That's good advice.
[312] I think that is too.
[313] So everyone watch autopsy.
[314] Someone on Twitter suggested, or on our Facebook page, we have a Facebook group, my favorite murder that you can join.
[315] Someone suggested that we just do it live, or just do an episode where we just watch an episode of autopsy and just talk about it.
[316] That's a great idea.
[317] They can watch along with us.
[318] A very good idea.
[319] I love it.
[320] Yeah, that's good.
[321] Yeah, you can go on, because it's on HBO Go or HBO or whatever.
[322] Apparently, there's a lot of episodes on YouTube as well.
[323] Oh, good.
[324] Yeah, there's like, you can find them everywhere.
[325] Love it.
[326] We're doing it.
[327] We're going to have all kinds of events.
[328] Yeah, it's also a little dated, which I fucking love when I'm watching true crime shit.
[329] Do you ever go back and watch Forensic Files?
[330] Oh, yeah.
[331] Oh, it's like, it's like 2002, which doesn't seem that long ago.
[332] please it's so long ago the blouses tell a different story oh it's so good it's so good so good I can even deal with reenactments when they're like vintage reenactments yeah I love reenactors well that's a whole different dude I can't I can't watch a reenactment and not picture the person's headshot yes and their whole family watching because it's billy's big break or whatever yes I always think about that and that sometimes they cast women that actually look like real women.
[333] So it's like, this is like she's the one that got picked finally, even though that, you know, like, and probably in her agency or whatever.
[334] Yeah, but then you think about the, like, the breakdown of what they were calling for and it's like big fat, stupid woman.
[335] That murders people.
[336] That murders.
[337] Like that nobody trusts and likes.
[338] And it's like, oh, that's what I got cast as.
[339] You know what?
[340] No small parts.
[341] Everybody has got to get their stories told.
[342] Is that what they say?
[343] No small parts.
[344] Oh, no. Who would play us?
[345] Well, some Blair would play me for sure.
[346] Definitely.
[347] Definitely.
[348] And then David Schwimmer would play you.
[349] I'll take it.
[350] Okay.
[351] I feel like I always start with my favorite murder.
[352] So you want me to go first?
[353] Sure.
[354] Do you want to go first?
[355] I will.
[356] And this is under the guys we were talking about kids that kill.
[357] But I don't know if we still did that.
[358] I did.
[359] Oh, good.
[360] So we decided that we're now going to have every episode has a theme or like a, you know, a What's the point?
[361] A subject.
[362] Point.
[363] Or, yeah, just, I mean, I guess theme's the right word.
[364] Theme or subject.
[365] Yeah, so we can kind of like matchy match.
[366] So this was kids.
[367] Were we doing kids that kill their parents?
[368] That's what I did.
[369] Okay, me too.
[370] Okay.
[371] Yay, we did it.
[372] Hey, this is exciting.
[373] An all new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.
[374] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.
[375] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.
[376] Who killed Saz?
[377] And were they really after Charles?
[378] Why would someone want to kill Charles?
[379] This season, murder hits close to home.
[380] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.
[381] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.
[382] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.
[383] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?
[384] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, Davey, Joy Randolph, Molly.
[385] Shannon and more.
[386] Only martyrs in the building premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.
[387] Goodbye.
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[407] Goodbye.
[408] So I did Alex and Derek King, which I don't know about.
[409] So I'm excited to hear this.
[410] Because you sent me a photo and I was like, I'm not looking this out.
[411] Just tell me about it.
[412] So the first time I ever saw these kids on the news, Alex King at the time, I think he was either 12 or 13.
[413] He looked like he was eight years old.
[414] He looked like a baby -faced baby.
[415] Holy shit.
[416] Very small boy.
[417] And his brother, it was like a year, maybe two years older than him, Derek King, was kind of bigger, like looked like a teenager.
[418] Hold on.
[419] I'm going to get cozy.
[420] Yeah, lay all the way down.
[421] I'm going to tell you a story.
[422] So, and I remember seeing it where it was like, you know, kids who kill and whatever, and they'd killed their father.
[423] So the deal was, um, A house was on fire.
[424] Firemen go to put the fire, the house out.
[425] They put the fire out and go in.
[426] And then in the other part of the house, it isn't burnt.
[427] They find a dead body.
[428] And they know that it's dead from, not from the fire, but they can see that it has head wounds.
[429] And so the next day, Alex and Derek King turned themselves into the sheriff's...
[430] Tell me their age again?
[431] Twelve and thirteen.
[432] Holy shit.
[433] Yeah.
[434] Babies.
[435] And you've got to see the picture.
[436] The one mugshot of Alex King, he's just got zits all over his forehead.
[437] He just is like, it's a child.
[438] It's like sixth grade, seventh grade.
[439] Yeah.
[440] And so they turned themselves in and they say that they had run away from home because their dad was too strict to their dad's friend, Ricky Chavez's house.
[441] And they stayed there for a week.
[442] And they knew that he was going to, they knew they were going to get punished when they went back home.
[443] So they decided to kill.
[444] him to avoid being punished.
[445] Because they're children.
[446] Because they're children.
[447] And also, they ran away because they're dead.
[448] So what had happened, it's a very sad story, of course.
[449] But it's like the mother and father have Alex, Derek Alex, and then she has twins.
[450] And then she leaves all four boys, leaves the husband and just bails.
[451] I will never be able to wrap my head around moms who just later.
[452] I mean, dads too, but, you know.
[453] Well, I, and in this story particularly, There's a lot of things I wish I knew more about.
[454] And I read every single article on Google when I put their names in.
[455] It just went down until I got to.
[456] There was an article on the Nambla website, which is the National Association for Manboy Love or whatever.
[457] That's a thing you can click on.
[458] You can click on it.
[459] I didn't realize until after I clicked and read the story.
[460] And at the end, it was like a person that was trying to rationalize.
[461] Or I was like, oh, my God, where have I gone?
[462] Because I just kept on reading stories.
[463] I've never come across.
[464] that in all my weird.
[465] It was like the 10th article.
[466] And you can click on it.
[467] Do you think that the government is tracking you now?
[468] A hundred percent.
[469] And they should be.
[470] But it, but it was the only, the defense I have is that it was just the next article down.
[471] Like I wasn't checking it.
[472] Did it say anything different or anything inflammatory?
[473] Well, so it, it told this part of the story.
[474] It, it is inflammatory, but it's that creepy, creepy thing of, so they ran to Ricky Chavez's house.
[475] And the reason they'd like to go there is because he let them smoke pot and play video games.
[476] And he was molesting Alex.
[477] And he had convinced Alex that they were in love.
[478] This guy was 39.
[479] 39.
[480] That they were in love and that Alex was gay.
[481] And so this herein starts the soap opera of this story because.
[482] Jesus, I was not expecting that angle.
[483] Yeah.
[484] It's rough.
[485] So the Nambla article, of course, is like, people don't understand these relationships.
[486] or whatever.
[487] I was like, wait, what?
[488] Hold on.
[489] Yeah, it's creepy.
[490] But so that guy drove them to the sheriff's department to turn themselves in.
[491] But then they got him and they were like, so what exactly are you doing here?
[492] And then it turns out, so he gets held for like aiding and abetting essentially, you know, like keeping him.
[493] Did he have anything?
[494] Okay.
[495] But he knew that they had killed his dad when they were staying there.
[496] Okay.
[497] So the two, those, the two young boys confess and they have their confessions taped and they're very detailed about it.
[498] Did you watch them?
[499] Can you watch them?
[500] You can't probably.
[501] No, it's tape recorder.
[502] Oh, from what I understand.
[503] Okay.
[504] Um, but then a little while later, they recant, like a couple months later, and I think that's probably when they got lawyers and when the lawyers, like, put everything out and were like, hold on a second.
[505] Yeah.
[506] You were, you ran to the molester's house to hang out the day after you killed your father.
[507] What's really going on here?
[508] and then they came back and said that we were we were trying to cover for Ricky it turned out he killed our father and this whole thing was his idea bullshit and that is that's where it all started and I remember when I saw that news story it was like he was based they were basically presented as like these evil children like you immediately believed that they that you it was such a bias it was such a weird bias they were like he has and this young one has a relationship with this guy as if that kid is somehow perpetuating the relationship.
[509] It's his fault.
[510] Yes.
[511] Or he's seducing the older man somehow.
[512] Because they're basically trying to sell the story of like these two devil children.
[513] Oh, no. When really, as we all know, it's like this guy was in their life.
[514] So clearly Alex was being groomed for a long time.
[515] And, you know, it's just the grossest thing.
[516] So basically when the mom bailed, the dad after a little while was like, I can't handle four boys by myself.
[517] So they all got put.
[518] in like Alex went to a foster home, the twins went somewhere else, and then the older boy went and lived with the principal of the local high school.
[519] Oh, that can't be chill.
[520] I don't think so.
[521] And then he stayed there until like two months before this murder.
[522] So, and Alex came back from the foster home.
[523] I can't get any information about what happened, but they said it didn't, like, it didn't work out or something.
[524] Right.
[525] But we all know what foster homes can be like.
[526] Sure.
[527] So, but Alex was doing good at home with his dad, then Derek showed up.
[528] And then two months later, the dad's murdered.
[529] Do we know, did the mom come back for the trial?
[530] Yeah.
[531] The mom not only came back for the trial when they basically were found guilty.
[532] I think they were found guilty of second degree murder or something.
[533] The mom showed up.
[534] They hit him with something and then set his body on fire?
[535] Baseball bat.
[536] Derek hit him with the baseball bat.
[537] Alex said it was his idea.
[538] And then they lit the house on fair because they thought they were going to get rid of all the evidence.
[539] If you're going to kill someone and then light their body on fire, if they don't have charred lungs, it's clear that they didn't die in the fire, everyone.
[540] Yeah, but you can't just burn somebody.
[541] No. It doesn't work that way.
[542] It doesn't work that way.
[543] And I mean, yeah.
[544] I'm telling people how to get away with it.
[545] Yeah.
[546] Like almost kill them so that they inhale the smoke when they, no. Okay.
[547] I mean, yeah, that's one way, but still they might find stuff on the body.
[548] You can't get away with killing someone.
[549] Anyways, it's very difficult to get away with killing something.
[550] So they also brought the guy up on charges, all kinds of charges.
[551] They had like the aiding and betting thing and they had unkidnapping.
[552] And of course like 10 counts of molestation, he had already, he was a convicted pedophile.
[553] Of course he was.
[554] How was he the family friends?
[555] Like that's what I want to know.
[556] This is why you don't make friends with people at all.
[557] Ever.
[558] But so, so anyway, they have two, like, they have two trials.
[559] The two boys are tried and then this guy is Ricky Jim.
[560] Thank you one, so keep your base is tried.
[561] We just start spreading this room with that.
[562] Yeah, that'd be bad.
[563] But they, so they try the adult man first and then seal his, the results.
[564] And so when the boys are tried, we don't know whether or not that jury found that die guilty.
[565] Because it'll influence the jury.
[566] Yeah, because they basically were both, oh, because, sorry, so like three months after they made that confession, then they got the lawyer, they lawyered up.
[567] Right.
[568] They basically came back and said.
[569] um he did it we were covering for him and this whole thing was his plan and we were in the trunk the whole time and he did all of it and he was like nope yes and so that guy's lawyer has to represent a child molester who is it is being accused of murder by children like the whole thing is so crazy this is what i'm saying about defense like defense attorney should look i wish the idea was for everyone together to look for the truth yeah instead of making some shit up yeah Yeah.
[570] Or like, here's a technicality and this is why, you know, I can't imagine defense attorneys like themselves that much.
[571] No. Well, it must be really hard.
[572] But then there are, they're doing it for those people that are like the few innocent.
[573] Right.
[574] But this guy was so not innocent.
[575] But the weird thing was they didn't convict him on the 10 molestation charges.
[576] Wow.
[577] They didn't, like, they basically brought more charges against him.
[578] And then like the thing he finally got.
[579] convicted for was like holding a minor against their will or something and he got 35 years for it like the maximum.
[580] That's a lot.
[581] Yeah.
[582] The one thing they could make stick.
[583] Yeah.
[584] But because those boys had lied and done all that stuff, it made this guy look better than he should have looked.
[585] And there are a lot of people who still feel like no one ever heard what really actually happened because there's no way that that child molester was just an innocent bystander in that whole thing.
[586] Well, when you think about these kids who were 12 and 13 but looked really young, does that mean that who, how did they hit their dad over the head with a baseball bat and kill him?
[587] That doesn't sound like something, a young looking 12 or 13, like a slight, you know what I mean?
[588] Like that's a well, the older Derek is the one that did it and he was a little taller and bigger.
[589] But the guy was sitting in a, in like a lazy boy recliner.
[590] And so he may have been asleep.
[591] He may just snuck up on him.
[592] Because they had run away.
[593] So they weren't in the house.
[594] They weren't around.
[595] So they snuck into the house.
[596] And killed him.
[597] And what's the story with the dad?
[598] Was he like a dick to, like, was it?
[599] There's no proof.
[600] That's the other thing is that they couldn't prove anything.
[601] They couldn't prove the molestation.
[602] Everything was word, it was not word of mouth, but a hearsay or whatever.
[603] And the dad, they just said the dad was really strict.
[604] Right.
[605] And sometimes he would stare at them.
[606] and they didn't like it.
[607] So I think it was just like those kids just looked worse and worse and worse every time they talked about anything.
[608] Yeah.
[609] So it's like the dad was a dad trying his best.
[610] Maybe he was a dick.
[611] Maybe he was a dick, but he was trying, you know.
[612] But who knows?
[613] Like it also it was his friend.
[614] Totally.
[615] The other, the child molester was his friend.
[616] That's the reason that guy was in their life.
[617] So who knows?
[618] Don't you, like, do you wonder about like people we know that you're like, oh, like they're a child, Like, what if they turned out to be a child monster?
[619] You would never know.
[620] No. You would never know.
[621] Secrets.
[622] Secrets and lies.
[623] And now they're both out of jail.
[624] Shut up.
[625] They eventually got convicted.
[626] The older one got eight years in jail, and the little one got seven.
[627] Jesus.
[628] And now they're out.
[629] And one is like on drugs and violated his parole and had to go back.
[630] Alex, the younger one.
[631] Because he got like into a car accident or something.
[632] It's all just really terrible and sad.
[633] Where are they living down the street from here?
[634] No, no. This all happened in Florida.
[635] Okay.
[636] But then they moved to somewhere in Texas.
[637] Okay.
[638] I think.
[639] Damn.
[640] Crazy.
[641] So crazy.
[642] And also, as I was doing it, I was like, oh, I love the story.
[643] It's so disgusting and crazy.
[644] But then there's no real answers, which drives me nuts.
[645] I want to talk to the mom.
[646] Oh, she came in.
[647] Not only did she come in at the 11th hour, but she, Rosie O'Donnell hired her two lawyers for the boys.
[648] Oh, really?
[649] Yeah.
[650] Why?
[651] Because I think she was afraid they weren't getting like a fair, a fair thing.
[652] So she put some lawyers, Florida lawyers on retainer for them.
[653] Damn, Rosie.
[654] Uh -huh.
[655] Interesting.
[656] Yeah.
[657] Oh, that mom, I hope she fucking is, can't have more kids.
[658] Well, I don't, yeah, I think she's out of the game.
[659] I think she kind of didn't do it very good.
[660] I bet she takes zero responsibility.
[661] Well, she was in there trying to say, like, you, here's how it needs to go.
[662] And the prosecuting attorney was like, lady, they wouldn't be here if you paid any attention to that.
[663] Ouch.
[664] Yeah.
[665] Which is true.
[666] I mean, totally true.
[667] You can't just bail and then come back, you know, when everything's gone to shit.
[668] You can't bail on, you can't bail on your kid and expect them to have an okay life.
[669] No. You can't do that.
[670] Especially mom.
[671] Especially mom.
[672] Not to be fucking sexist, but...
[673] But it's true.
[674] It's true.
[675] Yeah.
[676] You're telling your kids they're not wanted.
[677] Yeah, that they don't matter to you, the one person that matters the most to them.
[678] Totally.
[679] Gross.
[680] This is a fun subject.
[681] That's my.
[682] It's a good one.
[683] What is it called?
[684] Is it like the...
[685] I guess the Derek and Alex King trial?
[686] Yeah, that makes sense.
[687] All right.
[688] Want to hear my favorite murder?
[689] I really do.
[690] For children who kill their parents?
[691] Yes.
[692] Mine is the Richardson family murder.
[693] Okay.
[694] So in Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada.
[695] I love when Canadians get violent.
[696] You know, Canadians, I've been noticing from the Facebook group, there's a lot of fucked up murders in Canada.
[697] Yeah, there are.
[698] Yeah, it's really interesting.
[699] I think it's like so much, it's wide open space.
[700] Totally.
[701] Yeah.
[702] This is Canada's youngest multiple murderer.
[703] She, her name is Jasmine Richardson.
[704] Is this the one that's 12 but looks like she's 25?
[705] Shut up, yes.
[706] Sorry.
[707] Sorry.
[708] Oh, it's good.
[709] It's good.
[710] Yes.
[711] It totally is.
[712] So in April of 2006, Mark Richardson, who was 42, Debra Richardson, it was 48, and this is this fucking tad part.
[713] I mean, it's all sad.
[714] But Jacob, Richardson, who was eight years old, found dead.
[715] And the daughter, who was 12 years old, was nowhere to be found.
[716] So this is the reason there's photos of her out there is because at first she was a missing person.
[717] So they displayed her photo all over the news.
[718] Like, where is this chick?
[719] Turns out they find her.
[720] The next day she gets arrested, she is 12 years old, hot, like, goth chick, dating a 23 -year -old dude named Jeremy Allen Stink.
[721] St -E -I -N -K -E.
[722] Stanky.
[723] That's the worst last name of all time.
[724] I know.
[725] Maybe he rebelled it because he's like this gross.
[726] He's like the dude that we probably dated in high school.
[727] He's like a gross goth dude who looks like probably.
[728] wears eyeliner.
[729] He said he was a 300 -year -old werewolf that liked the taste of blood.
[730] He's like that guy.
[731] Like gross.
[732] I dated, when I was like 14 and on drugs, I dated older dudes and I thought it was the coolest.
[733] Like this is what the story interested me too because it was like, oh yeah, that could have been me. I mean, I would never have killed my family, but.
[734] But who knows if you get like pulled in by some weirdo?
[735] Yeah.
[736] And he kind of, it seems like, I mean, it definitely seems like he's the one who egged the whole thing on because he said, he watched, like hours before the murder, watched natural born killers.
[737] And it was like, me and my girlfriend are these people, we're going to kill your family.
[738] So they went in there.
[739] The dad, this is so graphic, the dad was stabbed so many times.
[740] He didn't have blood in him anymore.
[741] Oh, my God.
[742] And then this is the saddest part.
[743] Don't listen if you don't want to hear about children getting murdered because I don't even want to.
[744] This poor eight -year -old kid, she sat up there, his big sister.
[745] sat up there with him.
[746] She said she covered his ears while his parents got killed in the basement.
[747] And then, because she didn't want him to hear it.
[748] So it's like, well, then she also didn't want him to get murdered.
[749] But the guy came up there, the boyfriend, and was like, kill him.
[750] So together they kind of killed him.
[751] Ugh.
[752] Just like disgusting and awful and like.
[753] Insane.
[754] Insane.
[755] And it makes me not, she's 12 years old, but it makes me have no sympathy for her anymore.
[756] No. You know?
[757] No. If she could do that, sit with her brother and cover his ears or whatever, there's some modicum of control that she had.
[758] She could have taken him out the window.
[759] Totally.
[760] Or something.
[761] Something, except and now, man, she's going to community fucking college and has a job and lives on her own.
[762] Because you can't be tried as an adult when you're under 14 in Canada for murder.
[763] Or in the longest you can get is 10 years.
[764] So she was 12 at the time, got 10 years, got out early.
[765] She's out under the care of a psychiatrist.
[766] She expresses genuine remorse, quote, genuine.
[767] I mean, I was a little shit when I was young, but I would, but I knew you don't kill your family.
[768] Well, I don't think it's a fair comparison.
[769] You probably, being a little shit and a murderer is not the same thing.
[770] Well, yeah.
[771] I mean, that's true.
[772] And I wonder what drugs they were doing.
[773] Were they on drugs together?
[774] It just, it didn't talk about drugs, but they had to be on something.
[775] Yeah.
[776] Oh, yeah.
[777] I know.
[778] I know.
[779] So he got three life sentences.
[780] Um, yeah.
[781] So she essentially didn't, like, she only got punished for a little while.
[782] Punished for a little while.
[783] She's going to school.
[784] I was reading a Reddit thing that's like someone was like, yeah, we, I go to this.
[785] school and none of us know who she is, even though there's photos of her.
[786] And she looks so much older.
[787] Look at Jasmine Richardson.
[788] She's like a pretty gothgy girl who looks 18 at the least.
[789] At the least.
[790] But you'd think that you could recognize her, but everyone's like, no one can tell who she is.
[791] Well, you know what?
[792] I bet she grew those eyebrows in.
[793] Sure.
[794] She got probably got a nice stencil, an eyebrow stencil.
[795] Let's say hair is bleached blonde now maybe.
[796] Bleach blonde would be smart.
[797] No, or maybe she's like the most square looking person in the world now.
[798] She goes full J crew.
[799] Full J crew.
[800] That's a good way to hide.
[801] Perm?
[802] Marsha Clark Perm?
[803] Bugged out Marsha Clark eyes.
[804] Spray tan.
[805] Because you're not got off anymore.
[806] And I'll say, or, or she could be doing mousy brown hair that almost isn't a color.
[807] And like John Lennon glasses and just being like sexless, plain.
[808] Yeah.
[809] Like the person.
[810] I always think about that of like, If I ever wanted to be a spy, I know exactly what I would wear and, like, do.
[811] We don't look like spies, you and I. No. Yeah.
[812] I look like an old goth lady.
[813] Who stopped trying three years ago.
[814] No, you don't.
[815] We would have to go real norm.
[816] Real normal.
[817] Not norm.
[818] Yeah.
[819] We would have to do, it would have to be light honey brown box dyed hair.
[820] And also like, like cardigan sets.
[821] Yeah.
[822] Right.
[823] And like, or maybe just like, we'd just have a shopping day at Marshalls.
[824] We would have to look like I looked or like one would look when you have an office job you hate and don't want to spend any money on the clothes.
[825] Yeah.
[826] So it's those like button down blouses that like a roosh at the waist.
[827] Yes.
[828] And then a pencil skirt.
[829] Totally.
[830] Mm -hmm.
[831] It's easy to hide in plain sight.
[832] Cheap, shitty boots.
[833] Shitty boots, black tights.
[834] And then your purse is from clearly from payless.
[835] Like your purse is from Bayless.
[836] Sure.
[837] And then you just got a scrunchy.
[838] You've got all the hair, the permed hair up in a scrunchy.
[839] All of it's up in a scrunch.
[840] No makes.
[841] Shaved eyebrows and then their pencil back in.
[842] Ooh, that's a bit, that almost might seem glamorous, though.
[843] That is.
[844] I think you grow the eyebrows in.
[845] Yeah.
[846] That'd be hard for me, though.
[847] Lip liner only, no lipstick.
[848] Yes.
[849] Or just no lipstick.
[850] Right.
[851] No, just no lips.
[852] Oh, my God.
[853] What about that?
[854] people that wear all foundation.
[855] Oh, yeah.
[856] So just foundation, you have like an all beige face.
[857] It's like no contouring whatsoever.
[858] No contouring, no lipstick, no eye makeup.
[859] You just got the basics covered.
[860] Yeah.
[861] The baby.
[862] My cat is stoked on this look for me. He's like, he'll just never leave the house anymore.
[863] Wow, I'm fascinated.
[864] I am too.
[865] I do remember seeing that picture when I read that she was 12.
[866] I was like, yeah.
[867] That's insane.
[868] Yeah.
[869] I don't know how.
[870] I was like, that must be an older photo of her.
[871] Nope.
[872] That's what she looked like.
[873] And I think she supposedly lied.
[874] They maybe met in a chat room.
[875] And supposedly she might have been lying about her age.
[876] Saying she was 15.
[877] So he's still a 23 -year -old fucking a 15 -year -old.
[878] Yes.
[879] But also, if he's 300, he should have been able to pick up on that lie.
[880] Yeah.
[881] If he's been around that much, you think he would know.
[882] And they killed their parents supposedly because they disapproved of their relationship, which is like, this was bothering me so much about the whole thing.
[883] Like, these parents get killed for parenting.
[884] Yeah.
[885] That bothers me so much.
[886] Like, these parents get killed for something that later in your life, you're like, they were right.
[887] I look back at my mom and how mad I was at her and embarrassed I was at certain moments.
[888] And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, you were being an asshole.
[889] She was parenting.
[890] Yes.
[891] Although in some of these cases where it goes to murder, it's like, what was it like on the day to day in that house?
[892] Yeah.
[893] Because it's not, there definitely are the kids that are like sociopaths or psychopaths.
[894] like kill their parents because they want money or whatever it is.
[895] But then I think there's some that it gets built in by like either, you know, abuse or just like creepy shit happening that it's a reaction.
[896] So, but it's, I just hate blaming.
[897] I mean, on one hand, you gotta be like, the parents.
[898] I say who I hate blaming.
[899] You got to like, like, okay, I know this is so like naive of me, but like the parents were still married.
[900] So maybe they couldn't have been that fucked up.
[901] Maybe.
[902] So silly of me, I know.
[903] But like, you're just trying to use your context clues.
[904] Yes.
[905] Put it all together.
[906] Yes.
[907] Yes, I am.
[908] That's why like, yeah, in my story where it's like, does anybody know anything else?
[909] Yeah.
[910] Because I would just like a little bit of background information.
[911] Well, a lot of the websites are just regurgitating the same shit from every article you've already read, which is why I love Reddit.
[912] Because there's always some person who's like, I remember the news reports.
[913] Like, I didn't know that the reason.
[914] And there were photos of her out there, even though she was 12, is because they thought she was missing.
[915] So they let those, they released those photos of her initially.
[916] Interesting stuff.
[917] Yeah.
[918] They probably thought she was like taken.
[919] Totally.
[920] And she could have played that to her advantage.
[921] Well, 12.
[922] I just want to talk more about what you would do to hide in plain sight.
[923] I feel like I've thought about this more than I even realized.
[924] Like, hoopie rings.
[925] I mean, it's a, I always, sometimes I'll think of, like, being a spy and, like, what a bummer it is that we're in a day and age where we can't just disappear.
[926] Yeah.
[927] Or just disappear, you know?
[928] Yeah.
[929] It's a bummer.
[930] Like, you'd always hope there's some day in your life when you get to just, like, have a, have a spy moment or have a, you know, we all want to be private detectives.
[931] For sure.
[932] I would love it.
[933] Can someone hire us for a job as private detectives?
[934] so we can just have one experience.
[935] We want to get paid, but we don't have qualifications.
[936] None.
[937] I mean, I feel like...
[938] And it should be something important.
[939] Yeah.
[940] I feel like you and I, above anyone else I know, would be better at this than anyone else.
[941] I mean, I sure would give it my all.
[942] I promised to read every article.
[943] Yeah.
[944] I think we'd be good at it.
[945] I think we'd be good.
[946] I think we'd know to, like, how to separate and what to, like, how much space to give them and what to pretend that you're doing and...
[947] Well, and also that thing of the detectives talk about, and it's held against them a lot, but I believe in it 100 % is that gut reaction to people.
[948] Yeah.
[949] And so when they just go, I like this guy for something or this guy doesn't feel right.
[950] Right.
[951] I find that fascinating because so many different times in my life, I've been in places where I'm like, I don't know why, but I'm just going to get away from this person right now.
[952] I've done that a lot.
[953] Yep.
[954] And you just trust it.
[955] Yeah.
[956] I agree.
[957] Should we do a, yeah.
[958] Emails?
[959] Yeah.
[960] We have some good, your hometown murders.
[961] You guys are really fucking killing it.
[962] You're killing it.
[963] And so much so, I don't know if you guys saw, but we got a really nice review on the AV club that specifically mentioned how good the hometown murder stories are.
[964] Totally.
[965] And how scary they are.
[966] Going to rip up your notes for you.
[967] That's okay.
[968] Okay.
[969] Yeah, you guys are part of this podcast and we appreciate it.
[970] Yeah.
[971] So you can email them to us at My Favorite Murder at Gmail.
[972] You can join the Facebook group.
[973] It's a private group so people won't see that you're an insane person that lives a murder.
[974] But you have to ask to join it.
[975] Is that right?
[976] Yeah.
[977] You just need to be approved and you're being approved by me and I so far have not not approved anyone.
[978] So it's not scary.
[979] And then we also have a Twitter account, my fave murder, FAB.
[980] So if you need to go there.
[981] You should follow us there.
[982] Yeah.
[983] Okay.
[984] You want to start?
[985] Sure.
[986] Let's see.
[987] This is the one I marked.
[988] I just, I like to lay in bed and read these.
[989] I know.
[990] I do.
[991] The best.
[992] And then, flag ones that are like, you know, clear, concise, easy.
[993] So let's see.
[994] This is one that I flagged.
[995] Ooh, this is creepy.
[996] So, hi, ladies.
[997] This is from Maite, M -A -I -T -E.
[998] Maite, El -Guetta, Clavel.
[999] And I think she, she's originally from Chile.
[1000] So that's why she has such a fascinating name.
[1001] Maite.
[1002] All right.
[1003] So she says, hi, ladies.
[1004] really cool to have found your podcast.
[1005] I'm originally from Chile, but I've lived in New Zealand, NZ.
[1006] Yeah, sure.
[1007] For over 10 years now, NZ.
[1008] My husband and I are really fascinated by cold cases and always talk about it.
[1009] There's so many here in NZ that are very interesting and worth mentioning, like the Bain murders or the Mark Lundy's case, naming them here so you can have a chance to research a little.
[1010] But the one I want to tell you about happened in the town I grew up and the victim was a student from my school.
[1011] So that's one personal connection on the case.
[1012] Carla Ojarzan was a 15 -year -old talented student and athlete who was found dead at a sports training park in Orsono, Chile.
[1013] She had been raped, beaten, and strangled with her own running tights.
[1014] On the evening of December 17, 2008, Carla and her sister went for the usual training session at the city outdoor sports facility.
[1015] they usually go to training with their dad but that day their mom was sick so the dad stayed home looking after her and the girls trained together for a while then separated Carla stayed behind doing extra laps and her sister went home in parentheses terrible move after a few hours and with no signs of Carlo the family members and friends went to look for her and among these friends was fellow athlete and former coach of Carla Christian Roheel R -J -E -L -35 he knew the area very well so he led the search that night and also help the police search the following morning.
[1016] He even talked to the media saying that he had seen her training and told her that she shouldn't be on her own, that it was late.
[1017] All red flags.
[1018] It was dangerous, yep.
[1019] She wrote, I mean, hello.
[1020] You're just implicating.
[1021] You're telling everyone that you were there.
[1022] Yeah.
[1023] You're so interested.
[1024] Yep.
[1025] So Carlo's body was discovered the following morning at a remote part of the training field, an area that was covered in really high wheat grass, a wheat -like grass.
[1026] So, as you might have guessed, he raped and killed her.
[1027] And do you know how he got caught?
[1028] His wife saw him coming home that night and jumping in the shower with his clothes on, as if he was trying to wash them.
[1029] She found that odd.
[1030] And when she heard about Carla being dead, she checked her husband's wet clothing.
[1031] And it was covered in dry grass like the wheat grass.
[1032] And then she saw something that looked like blood.
[1033] So she called the police and the blood was matched to Carla's DNA.
[1034] He raped her with a condom so he wouldn't get caught.
[1035] He was found guilty of rape and first -degree murder is currently serving a life sentence in a local prison.
[1036] He's never confessed to killing her.
[1037] He first said that there were lovers and the sex was consensual later admitted to have raped her, but insisted he left her alive.
[1038] Yeah, right.
[1039] Just confess at this point.
[1040] Yeah.
[1041] Good for his fucking wife, man. I know.
[1042] You know, that's the kind of person that people need to be is like...
[1043] Imagine that moment where you look down and you see all the, oh my God.
[1044] I would want to throw up.
[1045] I would run out of the house.
[1046] That's like the moment in Silence of the Lambs or she's like, might I use your phone please?
[1047] Right.
[1048] Or you try to act calm, but there's no way to be calm.
[1049] Right.
[1050] Oh, such a good.
[1051] Oh, you know, I read an article recently.
[1052] That was just an interview from the two of the, the, uh, Mr. I don't want to hurt your dog and she puts the lotion on.
[1053] I read an article that was just interviewing the two of them and what their experiences were like, and it was amazing.
[1054] Were they together?
[1055] No. It was like, poets from both of them.
[1056] That's so funny.
[1057] I've never heard that story before.
[1058] Every time I see Mr. I got your dog, every time I see her in anything else, I'm so proud.
[1059] Did you know she was in Grey's Anatomy?
[1060] Yeah.
[1061] I did not realize it was her telling her by that article.
[1062] I was so happy for her.
[1063] I know.
[1064] She's fine.
[1065] Life after that pit.
[1066] Residual money.
[1067] Okay.
[1068] Here's mine.
[1069] This, I'm going to read this one from someone on her Facebook group, Lori Baker Martin.
[1070] Darling Girl.
[1071] She says, Here's a murder that happened in my hometown of Coffeyville, Kansas on December 11th, 1999.
[1072] A man named John Dalton, a social worker, married a woman with two kids.
[1073] Her name was Holly Stack.
[1074] No one knows exactly what sent John Dalton off the deep end of these things.
[1075] His former landlady said he was kind, attentive, charming.
[1076] But he hid behind a door in their house on that day and waited for his two stepchildren to come home from school and then beat them to death with an aluminum baseball bat.
[1077] I know.
[1078] Then he hid out and waited for Holly to come home from work.
[1079] He did the same to her.
[1080] He stayed in the house with those three horribly mutilated bodies for three days.
[1081] He even ate meals in the kitchen with them.
[1082] So clearly he fucking went.
[1083] It's not like he just wanted to kill them.
[1084] Like something went.
[1085] Something snapped.
[1086] Yeah.
[1087] The end of it, this story is both unsatisfactory and fulfilling.
[1088] John Dalton was arrested in charge with the murders, but he never stood trial.
[1089] While he was waiting for trial, he developed throat cancer and succumbed to it behind bars two years later.
[1090] on a more satisfying note coffeeville has located a safe house for oh coffeeville has started a safe house for women on that site at that site oh that's cool it's called holly's house incidentally while i don't think john dalton was a relative of coffeeville's famous dalton gang members the shootout between that gang and townspeople in 1892 resulted in the death of four gang members four townspeople and the sheriff it's coffeeville's claim to fame wow coffeeville who would have found coffeeville kansas i do love those midwest story, though, because there's something extra, like, you know, it's all quiet and crickets at night and everything.
[1091] And then just someone waiting behind a door.
[1092] Well, are you watching the new Stephen King Hulu fucking?
[1093] No. Dude.
[1094] Is it so good?
[1095] Dude.
[1096] It's so good.
[1097] What's it called?
[1098] 11.
[1099] What's the date that?
[1100] Oh, 1123.
[1101] 63?
[1102] Oh, I didn't realize that was Stephen King.
[1103] That's the day Kennedy was killed.
[1104] And the whole thing is like a going back and it's like a back to the future thing.
[1105] Oh, it's good.
[1106] It might get, it's good.
[1107] It's really good.
[1108] It's fun.
[1109] I got to see it.
[1110] If you're into like, you know, this, he goes back in time and tries to stop President Kennedy from being killed.
[1111] Oh my God, just like your dream.
[1112] Like my dream.
[1113] For his brother.
[1114] Right.
[1115] Because I don't think anything could have been done at that point.
[1116] But, but it's good.
[1117] And like other little things along the way.
[1118] There's like other storylines.
[1119] It's really, it's fun.
[1120] Awesome.
[1121] Everyone should watch it.
[1122] It's on Hulu.
[1123] I love it.
[1124] Yeah.
[1125] Wow.
[1126] That was fun.
[1127] Action pack.
[1128] A lot of bats.
[1129] A lot of baseball bats, unfortunately.
[1130] That's a lot of terrible children.
[1131] Don't keep a baseball bat in your house, people.
[1132] But keep those murder stories coming.
[1133] Please.
[1134] We do love them and we are reading them.
[1135] Oh my God, we are.
[1136] And it's just kind of exciting.
[1137] Yeah, we love it.
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[1150] Stay sexy.
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