#171 - Everlast (Part 1)

[0] What's the name of this song?

[1] I get by.

[2] Single off the new album, Everlasts, Ungrateful Living.

[3] Government man, keep calling my house, talking about I owe, harassing my spouse.

[4] Got to park my truck on another block, because the subprime loan got my ass and hot.

[5] Got a couple good friends with help their hands.

[6] I need a brand new job with the health care plan.

[7] They close the plan.

[8] told me crime don't pay unless you ask the mile so I smoke a little grass drink a little wine watch a little two try to kill a little time never seen day I bought a little more behind but I'm paying in no mind it'll all be good shit oh I like this man I bet they get by this is classic where can you find the video on YouTube ever last music channel we only gave you a taste ladies and gentlemen there's more of that song obviously that's but you can tell that's It's like, shit, that's you in your groove, man. Yeah.

[9] And you know what?

[10] It's one of those CDs I was talking about this earlier.

[11] I buy CDs, and I usually like two or three songs.

[12] This is one of those CDs where I honestly like every single song on this CD.

[13] And there's a few of them that, like, my house, I fucking love.

[14] This is an awesome CD man. It's been a while since you put something out.

[15] So is it like...

[16] A couple years?

[17] How many years has it been?

[18] Two.

[19] O8, I put a three.

[20] So, 08, I put out a record.

[21] Do you like having, like, that kind of a space in between records where you really really?

[22] get to work on your shit and really get to like put it in a form you like yeah i got no choice it's just songs come to me in groups and and bunches and then i i get caught up just living you know what mean it's i just kind of i can't force an issue if i if i tried to write a song when i wasn't feeling like writing a song it would just be horrible you know i mean i've done it i've tried it you know i mean it's just sometimes it's like life says don't write a record right right right right And then I tour and I lay back and I take my time.

[23] I just, I like taking in as much music as I do put now music.

[24] So I listen to things I learn more about music.

[25] Right.

[26] Do you like, when you write, do you just say, do you have like a whim?

[27] Like it just comes across you.

[28] Like, now I'm going to sit down right now and start writing a song.

[29] Like you don't have like a set aside time or anything.

[30] Like where you go, I'm just going to work on music.

[31] How does it work with you?

[32] Nowadays, I just go, you know, I keep a studio away from now.

[33] house just you know kind of and make it like a job just go every day you know not not quite nine to five hours but try to keep it as respectful to the family and whatnot as you right you know before it was yes i mean if if if i wanted to work it two in the morning i work it two in the morning i mean and that's still the case but it's i don't really live in that hour anymore yeah i don't either but there's something kind of badass about that shit that comes out like four a m yeah you know that's why you can't you know can't not do it if it's if it needs to to be done, but I'm not sitting around at 2 in the morning waiting on it.

[34] You know what I mean?

[35] If it jumps on me, I'm working on it.

[36] I was personally felt like we're writing anything that you don't get into the real trance until like the whole house is asleep.

[37] Oh yeah.

[38] Until it's just you and the silence and the keyboard and then you get into the real trance.

[39] Well, that's also why I keep a separate area.

[40] Like, you know, I'm talking about like a good hour away from the house.

[41] I got a drive to go to the studio and I usually spend a day or two there and, you know, just lock my mind out of everything.

[42] thing and try and you know it's there's no windows so it could be two in the morning it you know are you always writing shit down too like if you like uh if you're like in a restaurant or something you have an idea for something do you write it down he just I've honestly never written an idea down ever wow not a not a lyric not a rap lyric not you just keep them on your head yeah not a chord like progression on it I wow if I can't remember it it's it's lost to the universe that's awesome yeah there's something beautiful about that man that's pretty bad ass yeah i'm like a beautiful mind kind of an idiot idiot savant you know you know doesn't uh j d don't even know how i don't even know half the chords i play on the guitar man i've just copied them from other people really holy shit doesn't j z do that as well he doesn't write any of his rap i believe so yeah that's incredible that's incredible so all your shit it just started for me as a as a as a way of exercising your mind when i was a young kid trying to be a rapper.

[43] I was like you should always have it ready in your brain.

[44] And then my style of writing just became kind of visual and it's like in my mind when I write lyrics I have the pictures in my brain.

[45] I equated to that cat on Oz that drew pictures on paper but he was a poet.

[46] You know what I mean?

[47] It wasn't words.

[48] It was always this picture but he would read it as a poem and it's almost the same thing.

[49] It's three dimensional in my head.

[50] A song, the minute I would start writing the words out two dimensionally it would just lose all meaning and feeling to me. Oh, that That's fascinating.

[51] So you feel like the writing in a writing and just a verbal and an audio way is the way to do it and just stored in memory.

[52] It's just three -dimensional for me. Like in my mind, it's like three -dimensional pictures of what I'm writing about.

[53] That totally makes sense.

[54] The minute I commit them to paper and they're two -dimensional, I lose all it.

[55] I mean, it's a despisal.

[56] It go from something I'm really digging.

[57] So let me write that down and see it.

[58] And then I see it as a whole different, me, and it's not, it's words.

[59] It's paper.

[60] That's amazing.

[61] Loses it.

[62] Yeah, that's a fascinating way.

[63] Might be why I only put out a record every two or three years.

[64] That's really interesting, though, but you're totally right.

[65] Well, there's some people that have just a way of expressing themselves.

[66] That's like a fun way to listen to.

[67] I always bring up my friend Joey Diaz.

[68] Do you know Joey Diaz, the comedian?

[69] Sounds familiar.

[70] If you ever listen to the podcast, he's on all the time.

[71] He's one of my best friends, and he's this guy that is just, the way he talks is just like poetry.

[72] You know, he's just like, what's up, dog?

[73] Where's this party kicking, motherfucker?

[74] What are we doing, bitches?

[75] He's giving everybody knuckles, and everybody's laughing and smiling along.

[76] He just takes you off in a wave.

[77] And Joey Diaz is not something you could write down on paper.

[78] That's a flavor.

[79] That's a real live, like as you said, three -dimensional flavor to the way his words come out.

[80] It's alive.

[81] It's, you know, it surrounds me in my head.

[82] If I'm writing it in my head, it's all around me. I mean, I committed to paper.

[83] It's just flattened.

[84] So do you have, So if none of this is all written down, do you have, like, a set list in your mind of how you put it in order in your shows, or do you wing it, they go on how you feel?

[85] No, I'll write the titles down for a set list.

[86] I'm saying in the, it's also become a superstition at this point in my life.

[87] It's like, after you make a record, they want the lyrics.

[88] You know, the publishing company is like, that's giving you money for what you've written, wants to know what you wrote.

[89] but I actually I have to have one of my people my assistants like hey write the lyrics down I'll sit there and dictate them to you right right because it's become like a superstition at this point too wow have you ever tried to like break away from that and let me see if I could just write one out and start from scratch by writing it down I have and it's just again it's like I don't I live in a song until it's done you know I mean until it's finished it's all around me it's it once it's on paper it's like it's it's well you hit some notes man you hit some notes in that what it's like song we're like whoa like you know the one about the girl finding out she's pregnant the guy leaving and you find that man again she's going to cut off his balls like you you hit that note and that note maybe wasn't something that would have ever been the same if it was written down you know what I'm saying like you you hit it with the feeling of being that girl in that situation and it was realistic and and you know like a live three -dimensional yeah I mean there's trust me there's times I wish I could take do that, like, take that and write it on a piece of paper in a way that I thought was beautiful and artistic, because I'd love to write a movie, but I can't do that.

[90] I'm not, I'm saying, it's this thing about music and the way it lives in my head.

[91] Like, I don't really know how to make music, man. I've been faking it for a long time, dude.

[92] I've just been picking up things and making sounds that I'm like, I like this sound.

[93] I'm going to make this sound, you know what I mean?

[94] That's the realest thing, way I can put it.

[95] I mean, I've learned along the way how to become, you know, a musician and how to produce a record, but I'm saying it started with me just kind of being like, I'm just going to rap or whatever it was I was going to do, you know, and then pick up the guitar was just, I'm just going to play this little thing I wrote and maybe, you know, that's kind of brilliant though in a way because it's so uninfluenced and influence at the same time, you know, instead of being influenced by like classical instruction and, you know, structure and all that stuff, you're influenced by just what you enjoy and imitating that, you know, and then expressing it in your own way.

[96] It's, you know.

[97] That's amazing.

[98] It's a, that's very rare that, you know, that someone's ever done that, right?

[99] And when you meet other people that are musicians, do they have the same story?

[100] No, not really.

[101] I mean, a lot of them really trip on the way I, like, do what I do, you know, especially like when I bring, because I always bring in cast to help produce records.

[102] I think even though I could probably accomplish the deed on my own, you need people to challenge you in the course of creating something just to make it that much better.

[103] Just to collaborate and bounce it back and forth to somebody your respect to, right?

[104] Enough that would say, that sucks.

[105] Yeah, yeah.

[106] Even if it's just somebody that's that, your guy, you're my guy to make sure if something sucks, you're the voice.

[107] You know, I mean, whose opinion you trust.

[108] Yeah.

[109] But, yeah, also creatively, whatever it is.

[110] You know, I mean, there's a lot of instruments I can't play, you know, that I know cats that can play.

[111] So it's just, you know, I don't, they, you know, all them go to school, all that.

[112] That's what I'm saying.

[113] I steal everything I can from all of them.

[114] You know what I mean?

[115] It's like, I'm always the worst musician in the room in my mind because I don't know what I don't I still even though I'll get up and play with anybody and I'm it'll work I still have this thing in the back of my mind was like I don't know what the hell I'm doing it's like man okay I'm just kind of sneaking on stage and seeing if I blend I'm like the soy bomb guy from the from the Grammys remember that guy who came out during Dylan with the soy bomb written on his chest and it's wild I'm like I'm just sneaking on to the set trying to get something but you got to know that people must love that there's something so authentic about that there's something so authentic about just kind of like learning how to play music by making noises with a guitar until you figure it out that's pretty fucking badass watching watching the videos real close and right VHS pausing them and the thing shaking and you're trying to see where his fingers are on the thing we're like what chord is that I'm gonna try and do that did you read a book on it or anything not you know I took a few guitar lessons when like when I was real young like maybe six or eight guitar lessons and then kind of lost interest in it and then because hip hop kind of stole my mind away and then later on during the house of pain days i there's actually a bunch of stuff on house of pain records that i just little things that i played that we looped up and put it you know like little country riff or that shit kicker song every time i go to town people start kicking my dog around there's a guitar piece under there that i played it's so there's little bits of it but it's like after I left House of Pain I just started, I had a guitar around me all the time and I just started really actually saying let me see what I can do with this thing and the cat who helped me produce Whitey Ford sings the blues or I should say produce the record with me. Dante Ross we were just working on hip hop music and I was just kind of crashing in his place and playing guitar all the time and he'd be like what is that and it was this thing and I didn't even know what it was yet but that's what turned out to be what it's like he's like we're going to record that tomorrow and I was like I don't even know what it is so now I'm thinking I'm going to record this thing tomorrow so I stay up all night and I like write lyrics to it and you know we put it into a little beat and we were sitting there listening to it and we're like that works but how does it work with all this stuff you're doing this rap record and that's how the other songs in YD4 just kind of started happening I just like I said the music just started surrounding me I listen to the music more than let's say I have this definite idea of what a song is.

[116] I'll get a lyrical idea or a little riff idea, and I'll start working on that.

[117] And then once that takes a little bit of life, it'll start telling me what it wants.

[118] It'll be like, I'll hear a slide guitar on it, or there should be a piano right there.

[119] I can hear it in the space that's in between.

[120] It's telling me. I don't, like, I'm not this doo -doo, like, I know what parts and what, but I'll be like, I know what sounds should go right there because I can hear it.

[121] And then you add that sound and it will subharmonically create this other ghost sound in there that you're like, oh, that's a violin I can hear.

[122] Let's put a violin in there.

[123] And it builds itself into what it's supposed to be.

[124] That's amazing.

[125] That's pretty fucking badass, man. When I was a kid, I had friends that were musicians and I was always terrified to learn in a musical instrument.

[126] I was like, that shit looks like it.

[127] Me too, man. I'm still terrified of learning a musical instrument, man. Do you find, like, technology has helped you a lot, like, you know, like not garage band, but like programs?

[128] I am the most...

[129] I have to keep an engineer around all the time on duty and ready to go because I'm so I can get on the laptop and go on YouTube and find some stupid videos that'll make me laugh.

[130] Right.

[131] You know, I can get on the Facebook and the Twitter and whatnot, but I, you know, if I could, I could probably get two tracks recorded at the studio on my own before I just, you know, turned in for the day.

[132] That would take me probably about six hours.

[133] which would take him about eight minutes.

[134] So the technology is helped by making it easier to have your own studio.

[135] You know what I mean?

[136] Instead of spending a million dollars on a studio, I spend $40 ,000 and I have a really beautiful studio.

[137] You know what I mean?

[138] But I'm still with just, it's all about 90 % of what I do is, you know, either at my studio or late at night in a room by myself with the acoustic guitar banging on it trying to think of something funny or witty or what you really nailed was this kind of like bluesy smooth hip hoppy sound you know that nobody had ever done before like like what it's like that's like there's a lot of blues to that song you know i just kind of walked a line between brad from sublime and why clef jean you know i just kind of really like was like i saw they you know they i saw what wyclef started doing you know you know, with all his R &B and Island influence music, mixing that with hip -hop.

[139] And I was just kind of starting to record this guitar stuff to what it's like song.

[140] And I was a big fan of Sublime and how he always, like, injected these little hip -hop phrases into lyrics and things.

[141] I knew he had to be a, never really knew the dude, but knew he had to be kind of a B -Boy to a certain degree.

[142] And those kind of things, that's kind of how we saw that it would all work when we were looking at the record, me and my friend Dante.

[143] My label thought Whitey Ford sings the blues was a horrible idea.

[144] They were like, they're like, isn't it how funny how that always works?

[145] Yeah, it was because we were convinced we, no, this is going to work.

[146] This is like, there's no, you know, it's just what it is, you know, it's all the same thing to me. That's what I always say is like, I consider myself a hip hop artist, but I also don't really believe in any genre of music.

[147] I just think music's music, you know what I mean?

[148] Tony Bennett has some stuff that makes me go like this.

[149] Right.

[150] And I'll be like, oh, that's hip hop to me because that's the same thing hip hop made me. How lucky can one guy.

[151] write Zeppelin song.

[152] Somebody else, that's rock and roll.

[153] Somebody else calls that jazz.

[154] Somebody, you know what I mean?

[155] Right.

[156] But it's whatever makes you personally.

[157] Yeah.

[158] What is that?

[159] Yeah.

[160] You know, kind of feeling.

[161] Yeah, I like a lot of country music and some people give me shit about that.

[162] I'm like some Toby Keith songs, man. I'm not so big on New Country because I'm just not hip to the game, but I love country music, man. You're going to like that record, John.

[163] I'm sure I love it.

[164] I'm a huge fan of yours, man. So you dry home tonight, you pop that record in.

[165] By the time you get home, if I don't see it, you like a text from me like, that's a badass record.

[166] It goes great with whiskey, I feel.

[167] I believe it will.

[168] But, you know, Anthony Bourdain.

[169] My music ain't country, but it's definitely country friendly, man. Yeah, well, it's got a slang to it, you know?

[170] It's got a smoothness to it.

[171] You know, it's great shit, man. I love it.

[172] I'm a huge fan of your shit.

[173] One of the things Anthony Bourdain said, we were having this conversation once.

[174] He didn't become famous until he was, like, in his 40s.

[175] Oh, hold up.

[176] Let me pick up that name you just dropped there, man. Blip?

[177] No, it's because I'm going to say it because for you, but he said the coolest thing about becoming famous is that you get to meet famous people.

[178] Like, that's the coolest thing.

[179] And meeting you and hanging out with you at the UFC.

[180] Look, one time we were, we were smoking a joint in a Vegas casino.

[181] We're in, in the middle of a bar.

[182] And I go, you go, you want to smoke a joint?

[183] I go, yeah, where do you want to go?

[184] And he goes, Everlasts just goes, we mean go.

[185] Yeah, I was like, where you just put that a lighter.

[186] We can smoke it right here.

[187] Let him like, oh, all right.

[188] Well, fuck it, man. If I get arrested, at least I'm getting arrested with Everlast.

[189] Arrested, at the worst, they'd ask us to put it out, man. You know, at the worst, they'd be like, hey, come on, man. They give you that look like, dude, don't make my job harder.

[190] You can still smoke in a nightclub in Vegas, huh?

[191] You know.

[192] Is there cigarettes allowed in nightclubs in Vegas?

[193] I don't know, but we've smoked in the nightclub before.

[194] Remember we just stepped out that door and we smoked?

[195] Yeah.

[196] But you can't smoke that door that's outside.

[197] But is it an inside area?

[198] Are you allowed to smoke inside anywhere anymore?

[199] I think now it's not.

[200] I try to remember last time.

[201] You can still do it in the casinos.

[202] I still see people smoking in the casines.

[203] They're slowly pulling that out, though.

[204] They're slowly pulling the cigarettes out.

[205] They're going to fight that tooth in nail, though.

[206] I guess it's the real problem is the people that work there, and I get it, man. If you're a waitress, why the fuck you should you have to breed that shit in all day?

[207] I didn't smoke a cigarette in a long time.

[208] That's a tricky drug.

[209] You still think about it?

[210] Nah, see, because what happened to me was I woke up in the hospital and had emergency heart surgery, like, 98.

[211] So it was like, I was like, oh, I'm done smoking.

[212] Wow, and I didn't even, I mean, like, I still smoke some weed now and then, but like, you know, even for like three years, two years after that, no, about two years after the surgery, I didn't, I was like on some hell, no, I'm alive, I'm trying to, but I could never sleep because I, um, I, what happened was, is I went to bed, was, I'm real tired, I'm not feeling good, went to sleep and woke up in Cedars, like, after surgery.

[213] So, like, my mind was on this, like, don't go sleep kind of, like, trip.

[214] For like a long time, I was like an insomniac, man. Oh, my God.

[215] But I would let my band guys smoke a little weed up in the front of the bus.

[216] And one night I just, I couldn't sleep as usual.

[217] But somebody had something real just like reminisce.

[218] I was like, wow, now that's something quality up there.

[219] So I went out there just kind of smelling.

[220] I was like, you know what?

[221] Let me just.

[222] And everybody was like, are you sure?

[223] I was like, I'm a grown man. Let me, whatever.

[224] Like that.

[225] That's all I did.

[226] Bang.

[227] I gave it back to him.

[228] I went to the back of the bus.

[229] I slept like a goddamn baby, man. So it became for like a good, long time, few years.

[230] That's all it was.

[231] Right before bed?

[232] Yeah.

[233] Sleep like a baby.

[234] A lot of people use it for that.

[235] I know a lot of people that are in soft.

[236] And then, of course, you know, we want to start, you know, after a while, you lose that humbleness that almost dying gives you.

[237] And you're out at the club, and somebody's like, I hit the joint.

[238] I hit the joint before I go to bed.

[239] I'll hit it now.

[240] And then, you know, you're smoking.

[241] It's lucky you had somebody next to you, though, because you just went to sleep.

[242] What if you didn't have somebody next to you?

[243] Well, apparently there's more to it than that.

[244] Like, during the day, like, the guys that were making the record with me, we had the studio in my house.

[245] I had a house up in Mount Olympus in Laurel Canyon, and we just built the studio up in there to record and everybody was living in the house.

[246] And apparently just all day, I just didn't feel well, and I didn't look well.

[247] And when I went to lay down, I guess somebody came and checked on me just to be like, you are right and I guess I was breathing funny and they just panicked called the hot like shook me a few times I guess I wouldn't wake up called the hospital you know it was my extreme fortune to live in the neighborhood that was the closest hospital was Cedar Sinai and then it was you know also my uh Irish luck that uh the best heart surgeon in the world who Dr. William Trento was who's chief of heart surgery over there I think maybe even of all surgery, saw my case and told somebody else that you can't do that.

[248] I have to do that.

[249] What happened to me is the same thing to kill John Ritter in like 30 minutes.

[250] Jesus Christ.

[251] Same exact thing.

[252] What is it exactly?

[253] I believe, if I remember correctly, it was called an upper ascending aortic aneurism.

[254] And what I have in there now is a St. Jude's heart valve.

[255] It's a titanium heart valve.

[256] Like I tick like a watch, man. Whoa.

[257] Do you want to hear?

[258] Hold on.

[259] Get real sensitive on this mug right here.

[260] Oh my God.

[261] Holy shit.

[262] Yeah, like 14 years now.

[263] That's like white noise to me. But I can take my pulse without any.

[264] I could just take my pulse.

[265] Holy shit.

[266] That's amazing.

[267] You have a titanium valve in your heart.

[268] Yeah, yeah.

[269] Wow.

[270] Is it Bluetooth enabled?

[271] Dude, you're like a robot.

[272] Bionic rapper, man. For real, that is kind of crazy, man. Isn't it amazing that they can do shit like that?

[273] And you've had it in your body for how many years?

[274] what 98 since February 98 that's amazing that freaks me out man that's incredible yeah I don't know how to react to that that's amazing alien technology man that's why I love watching your Twitter dude because there'll always be some crazy tweet like some fan will tweet you like yo aliens dropped off the cure for cancer at you know whatever it is Fort Knox yeah it's flying over some hospital right now yeah I'll be like oh man I love that Because I know I got alien technology in my body, man. Titanium.

[275] I got a titanium hard valve, man. How does that work?

[276] Wow, that's amazing.

[277] I mean, imagine trying to explain that to someone 200 years ago.

[278] We're going to cut this dude open and we're going to stick some shit inside there where his shit's broken.

[279] It's going to be made out of a metal.

[280] Witchcraft.

[281] You're just a witch.

[282] A rare metal.

[283] Yeah.

[284] He wouldn't even bother trying to comprehend it, man. You're a witch.

[285] Burn him.

[286] Keep all the bacteria off of him.

[287] How are you going to do that?

[288] I mean, that's what the bacteria is there to test the weakness.

[289] You know, you get cut open like that.

[290] It's supposed to attack.

[291] That's nature.

[292] Like, we're subverting the entire system.

[293] Sticking titanium inside of people.

[294] That's amazing.

[295] It's incredible.

[296] I have to take a blood thinner for the rest of my life so a clot doesn't form around it and break off and go into my brain.

[297] What is the blood thinner?

[298] Huh?

[299] What's a blood thinner?

[300] How's that work?

[301] It's an anticoagulant.

[302] Just a pill that you take that, you know, and I have to, like, uh...

[303] Does it make you, like, bleed more if you get cut?

[304] Oh, yeah.

[305] Absolutely.

[306] You won't clot as fast.

[307] Wow.

[308] I had to give up riding my motorcycle and a few other activities of that nature.

[309] Because if you get cut, you just start bleeding out.

[310] If I was severe enough cut.

[311] Wow.

[312] Holy shit.

[313] Isn't it amazing how the human body can just be fragile at some points.

[314] And you have to just deal with some issues.

[315] But when you do, there's a certain humility and a certain, like, respect for life when you've gotten through some bad shit.

[316] You know, do you feel that?

[317] The way I try to explain it to people is like most people, unless you're really, you know, highly intelligent and enlightened, which is not what I'm saying I am when I'm about to say what I'm about to say.

[318] I'm just saying some cats just reach death at this point where they're just ready for it and they and they're ready to cope, you know what I mean?

[319] But most of us probably see death, you know, coming at us and, you know, there's, I look at it like a roller coaster, like, you know, going on this roller coaster, you told us the scariest roller coaster of all time and you're waiting to go on it and probably.

[320] The whole time you're waiting to go on that motherfucker, it's probably really scary.

[321] Then you get on it and you ride it once, and it's probably really scary.

[322] But then, you know, if you get off it and get right back in line, you know, the waiting line isn't so scary, and then you get back on the ride again.

[323] It's like, that's what I compare death to.

[324] It's like, I've gone through all the terror kind of terrifying parts of death thinking it was upon me. I was like, you know, woke up in the hospital.

[325] Like, you did what to me?

[326] there's this and like I got this scarred on my chest I'm thinking I'm you know it's so rap you know I mean I I vaguely remember like people talk about a flash of your life flashing before your eyes but to me it was more of just the sum the sum realization of wow man that whole 28 years was that long that's that's kind of what it was for me it wasn't like all these moments it was just like the sum of the realization that my life was like a second long in the scheme of things and uh so that's intense it's about as intense as it gets right you know it's crazy open heart surgery is about as intense as it gets yeah but i figure like this the next time death's upon me all the scary parts are i've been on this roller coaster what what comes after that it's it really is a trip that it's facing everyone but no one wants to bring it up it's it's it's really you subject.

[327] I can't testify either to any lights at the end of any tunnels, but like I do also remember hearing a, like what I, the only way I can describe it is hearing a very familiar voice.

[328] Like, like I never really knew any of my grandfathers, but it seemed like a grandfather's type voice.

[329] Right.

[330] Just kind of, you know, you ain't ready yet.

[331] It's not your time.

[332] But I didn't go along with like a light or a vision or a figure.

[333] It was just, as I remember as other than this, realization about how short my life was and my life could have been 90 years and that that realization would have been exactly the same you know what I mean right but then this whole this kind of blackness and this voice being like nah you know no you ain't it ain't time or something of that nature like that's the I can't even say it was words as much as just something communicating that feeling to me it's a real trip to think of the idea that this is there is a time for you and there is a place for you and there's a thing that you should be doing A lot of people want to think that that's grandiose to think like that.

[334] You know, oh, you're silly.

[335] You know, your life doesn't.

[336] It could have just been like, you know, the deepest parts of my subconscious, like, you know, fighting for their lives.

[337] You know, trying to convince me there's a reason to be alive.

[338] You know, there's that part.

[339] There's that part.

[340] I mean, there's a, I've battled it ever since.

[341] Was it was, were those spiritual thoughts or was it was scientific and your mind fighting to stay alive?

[342] Right, right, right.

[343] The ego playing tricks on you.

[344] stuff man yeah yeah I don't get no chamber but I get in my pool off and late at night with the lights off and just lay there with it over my ears and silence for a couple an hour or so you would dig you would dig an isolation tank you would dig the shit out of it man for you would be beautiful because it's a non -drug drug you could just go in there and be healthy and it's great for your bodies and it's very relaxing oh my god I bet alone in a tank that might be you might have the trippiest dreams in there ever Because, well, you know what it is.

[345] You know how it works with the water?

[346] You've never done it before ever.

[347] No, I've never actually done it.

[348] Man, you should own one and you should be in it daily.

[349] It's a beautiful environment.

[350] What's one of the things going to set me back, proper?

[351] 7 ,000?

[352] Yeah?

[353] Yeah, for a real good one.

[354] It'll last forever.

[355] It's got a big thick lining, like the kind they used to make coy ponds.

[356] It's all heated, the water.

[357] It's beautiful.

[358] It's super reliable and never leaks.

[359] You just turn it on when you want to get in there.

[360] Boom.

[361] Open the door, hop in.

[362] After you get out, you turn.

[363] you turn on the pump it's like the most low maintenance thing and man it's what a what an environment that is bro how often you do it all the time every day as much as i can sometimes i don't like to do it every day because then reality gets a little slippery is that right yeah i spend too much time alone in the tank i find myself getting really weird states going on i find myself going to fringe with my thoughts i get i get so far deep that it's very difficult to go to the supermarket do you not get pruny when you get in that You don't come out, like, looking like Mr. Burns or something like that.

[364] No, it's, I think maybe the salt water keeps that from happening.

[365] Weird.

[366] You know, the water is really salty.

[367] There's 800 pounds of salt in it.

[368] So it's a different thing when you come out.

[369] You know, you're not all pruned up.

[370] I don't know.

[371] That'd be funny if you were.

[372] Even if you were, you just...

[373] That's one thing you failed to always mention that every time you get out, you just look like a fucking E .T. dying.

[374] No. It's one of those things whenever I get out of there.

[375] I'm like, this is amazing that no one knows about this.

[376] This should be...

[377] They should teach this in school.

[378] They should have people in...

[379] high school getting in isolation tanks and have people talking to them and coach them through life you should help everybody Joe Rogan isolation tank too much work man I got on time for that seven thousand a pot man it sounds like a little bit there's that much profit to be honest with you it's a lot of it is steel components you have to get it manufactured and built there's this super fucking jacuzzi system with this incredible filtration system to make sure that no microbes can get in there and fuck with your skin and then on top of that you have to make sure the water stays exactly the same temperature.

[380] It's a lot of technology into it.

[381] You know how you could do it is you have to get it like $200 on Amazon, like a portable system that you make out of like a box.

[382] Oh, dude, you wouldn't want that.

[383] What if it's fucking broke in your liver room and fucked up your whole house?

[384] Then I'd be responsible.

[385] No, you don't want that, man. George Foreman of an isolation tank.

[386] That's the thing about a tank, man. If you're going to get one, you got to, you know, it's got to be built correctly.

[387] Someone's got to go in there and do it.

[388] To have a build -it -yourself one, it seems to me too much room for error.

[389] Yeah, but, you know, people would buy it.

[390] My pool works pretty good late at night with the lights off, man. You get on a floating?

[391] Yeah, you get on a floating.

[392] No, you just, I'm buoyant.

[393] Oh, you just, you can float in your back in a pool?

[394] Pretty much.

[395] Holy shit.

[396] That's amazing.

[397] That's incredible.

[398] I sink like a rock.

[399] I can't do that.

[400] But if you get in that water tank, the isolation tank, then it's beautiful.

[401] Imagine 80 pounds of salt.

[402] The other thing is that the temperature is perfect.

[403] It's the exact temperature is your skin.

[404] So when you're in there, you're in there, failed to be able to effort a while you don't differentiate between the skin and the exact temperature of pee yeah probably comes out of your body right it must be just need a garbage bag and just piss yourself and sit inside of it yeah i try not to pee in the tank but you know sometimes shit happens that might get kind of nasty yeah you don't want to smell that while you're in there trying to achieve enlightenment smelling your own piss going what the fuck is wrong with me sitting at joe rogan sitting there pissing on myself in an isolation tank Have you ever seen somebody that had a pool that was so badass, like they had a lazy river around it?

[405] Can you imagine how badass would that be if you just had a lazy river around like a huge pool?

[406] Yeah, I knew this dude who had, he had this giant pool and he had some crazy fucking slide system built into it, like water slides and everything, built into the side of his hill.

[407] Yeah, but just like a floaty thing where it just goes around and around.

[408] So you could just sit and then like a little raft and just go in circles.

[409] Like your Disneyland ride?

[410] Yeah, like those pools where they had like a little lazy river around the whole entire pool.

[411] That would be okay, but I'm telling you the isolation time.

[412] better.

[413] I want to get somebody with a moat.

[414] That's the next level shit.

[415] That's like some Prince of Croatia shit.

[416] You live in Glendale with a moat.

[417] I know there's no princes in Croatia.

[418] Don't get angry at me Croatian people.

[419] I love you guys.

[420] Yeah, man, that's the next level shit, right?

[421] That's after the next zombie apocalypse.

[422] After 2012, people are going to start making moats.

[423] Yeah, that's why I'm moving out the city.

[424] I'm going to have a moat.

[425] What are you going to try to make this compound?

[426] What are you thinking?

[427] Northern California is a good move Northern California's not bad Not too hot You know not too cold Too rainy Gets you a little You get a little weather Which keeps you honest I think it's San Diego People Little weather's good for people I think people are delusional in California Because they never get hit by weather They're like they just like have no They have no respect for what nature can do to them Yeah it never hits here You know when you get here You get a little bit of rain Whipped you do It's like every now and then it rains Like people here really have no idea What the fuck weather is like Yeah but we get earthquakes.

[428] Rarely, man. Rarely you get a they're coming.

[429] Yeah, they're definitely coming.

[430] We're all going to and we're all going to be like, why didn't we move?

[431] Just because we ain't paid the tab yet doesn't mean that's not a bill, you know?

[432] Indeed.

[433] But I think earthquakes, by and large, you know, if you don't get trapped under a giant building that crushes your head, by and large.

[434] See, I'm thinking San Diego, be close to the biggest air force base ever, you know.

[435] That just seems like it would make sense.

[436] San Diego?

[437] Yeah, be close to the base.

[438] You know, we'll be the most protected other than being in Los Angeles where everyone's going to fucking die.

[439] Does that what you think?

[440] Yeah.

[441] But why do you think that earthquakes won't hit like Air Force bases?

[442] No, no, no, no. If when panic strikes out or a zombie apocalypse or when the Martians come Zombie apocalypse.

[443] People actually talk about this.

[444] People worried about the shit, dude.

[445] People are worried about the fall of civilization.

[446] Danny Boy listens to like that Alex Jones.

[447] All that stuff.

[448] Yeah.

[449] Like he's got that I heart radio app and he's always listening to that late night overnight stuff to all the craziness and I was like this, he was listening to a show that was actually about zombie apocalypse and zombies and people discussing them.

[450] And I was like, this is real people talking about this.

[451] That's crazy.

[452] It is ridiculous, but could you imagine if it was possible to make a zombie, you know?

[453] It could be it.

[454] It would probably just be a virus of some kind that we're talking about it.

[455] Well, it sounds stupid, but there's way crazier parasites that exist in the world.

[456] You know, every single human being is essentially a symbiote.

[457] Every person has a conglomeration of all sorts of different organisms living inside their body.

[458] And without those, you can't even be alive.

[459] And when you get a parasite, like when a parasite fucks up a body, what that is is a failed symbiote.

[460] It's like it's trying to have a symbiotic relationship with the organism, but it's failing, so it's sucking out too many resources.

[461] So it becomes a parasite.

[462] It's not contributing to the overall system.

[463] It is possible that they could come up with something that would hijack your shit so bad that you would be like one of those 28 days later.

[464] motherfucker.

[465] That is so 100 % absolutely possible.

[466] So we're not speaking of the dead rising.

[467] No, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. Grins, brains.

[468] Look, 28 days later is a zombie movie.

[469] I didn't listen to the zombie apocalypse show long enough to figure this out.

[470] I just was like, these people are actually saying things about zombies right now.

[471] Dude, I'm telling you, realistic zombie rules.

[472] I'm totally geeking out on zombie rules.

[473] 28 days later was not a zombie movie in the same thing.

[474] It was a disease or that was created.

[475] It was like, what was it called rage or something like that?

[476] they gave it to chimps and the chimps got out and fucked up a whole city with it totally that's totally possible there's a worm that lives inside a grasshopper it's an aquatic worm and it grows in its body and then when it gets to the age where it's about the hatch it talks the grasshopper into drowning itself it controls the grasshopper's body hops the grass over over to some water leaps into it so that it can pop out some aquatic worm some aquatic worm it's not like Google Grasshopper, Aquatic worm, Grasshopper, Parasite, yeah.

[477] Parasite.

[478] Isn't that amazing?

[479] Trix it into drowning itself.

[480] That's amazing.

[481] And they can pop out of its little body.

[482] If that's possible, anything's possible.

[483] I know that's a lower organism.

[484] They've already extracted it and there's a pill.

[485] Yeah.

[486] And the guy talking to it is already infected by it.

[487] We all might be.

[488] That's why I said about clones.

[489] I found it on Google.

[490] Yeah, you found the Google.

[491] The Grasshopper thing.

[492] Brainwashed by parasitic worms.

[493] Isn't that amazing, man?

[494] Wow.

[495] Yeah, I have it, baby.

[496] Where is that?

[497] Because I want to go there and just find some drown.

[498] That's like a fun camping trip.

[499] Well, they're finding out more and more these parasitic relationships that worms have.

[500] Dude, I mean, how many millions of organisms are living on us as we speak?

[501] Yeah, there's a lot.

[502] Isn't that beer to yours right there?

[503] This one or mine.

[504] I'm sure.

[505] Little bugs that are actually probably helping out keeping it clean and shit.

[506] Yeah, exactly, right?

[507] I mean, that's what the whole deal of Acidophiluses, right?

[508] I'm gonna lie though, man. Like, you know, that brings, in my mind, that brings me straight to bedbugs.

[509] Like that whole outbreak in the East Coast, dude, I was shook.

[510] I was, like, not wanting to go to, like, to any hotels.

[511] I was like, man, I ain't trying to bring bedbugs home.

[512] I know.

[513] Can you imagine that?

[514] They get in your clothes and shit, you're fucked.

[515] That's just crazy.

[516] They multiply in your house.

[517] Oh, and you got to get a defueled.

[518] That's why it's easy to believe all that, how quickly, you know, it's like people trip on, oh, the nuclear, this, nuclear, that.

[519] No, it's going to be a little germ that it gets all of us, man it could be easily it could be there's been threats of it for you know who knows how long i mean every time one of the things it hits everybody like when the swine flu came out of the bird flu or anything that comes out is like this might be the one we're all scared of because we all know that it's possible yeah that one super bug that comes along yeah but well they got us convinced at least and they use every opportunity they can't try whatever new vaccine they got out exactly like how are we going to sterilize these folks once and for all yeah well the fuck there's a lot of action trails aren't working fast enough are you a believer in chem trails i i it's not past them right it's not past no that's how i look at it at all i mean like i look at it like the cats who like you know if you want to even take the 9 -11 there's cats to be like there's no way we did this i was like well there's proof that the very least we knew something was supposed to happen just like that hijacked airplanes there was reports that they were going to try and do this and nothing was done extra to stop it.

[520] That's kind of a passive participation at the very least.

[521] So I don't see past anything.

[522] All the heart and all this I love it.

[523] I love reading about it and learning about it and giving it just enough consideration to be like it could be true.

[524] I'm not living by it.

[525] But I'm watching to be like, okay, if some crazy scenario breaks out in the world where people just can't breathe and anymore there might be something to these stories yeah you would have to think of why would they be doing it there's got to be a profit to it you got to talk somebody in doing it i think for sure there have been some chem trail experiments i don't think that's doubted at all i think people are well aware there's been some shit but the real question is like how much are they doing on a regular basis i don't think it's like i don't think they're spraying cities like i go a lot of places and see them everywhere do you think they're spraying people do you think they're trying to control the population when i was young that was just a jet going by but the smoke didn't stick around all day one of my favorite videos online for ridiculousness is Prince sitting down with Dick Gregory and he's talking about how I think it's Dick Gregory he's talking about how there's a chemtrails and they fly over the hood and then all of a sudden everybody starts fighting and he goes and I saw these planes fly over and I was thinking God why is everybody fighting you know like what the fuck are you talking about you're in the hood like what do you expect you think the planes flying overhead?

[526] Is there spraying fighting juice down on the people?

[527] It's not the poverty.

[528] It's not the poverty or the rage or the criminal element that's throughout your community.

[529] Or the police.

[530] Yeah.

[531] Or all sorts of corrupt shit that's going on, right?

[532] No, it's this is a plane that's spraying some shit down and all of a sudden everybody's getting upset.

[533] That's ridiculous.

[534] It's a hilarious video.

[535] I think we need to look into those green boxes that used to have in your backyard that hummed that were really warm Because I used to, like, as a kid, lay on those things for probably years, you know, and just, I think I don't even know what you're talking about.

[536] Well, in the Midwest, or I guess in the suburbs, not in Los Angeles.

[537] They used to have these green boxes that were, like, energy plants or something like that.

[538] I don't know what they were.

[539] They're just like these, and they hum, they went, and they were super warm.

[540] And I remember just sitting out there as a kid for hours, like on it, like I was recharging.

[541] And I probably got, I don't know, more data bit bites or something.

[542] I don't know what is just, what is that thing?

[543] He's done so many things when you were little that could have made you a moron.

[544] I think everyone did that.

[545] I don't know what you're talking about, first of all.

[546] I'll show you a picture of one.

[547] I'm familiar.

[548] Yeah.

[549] An energy source?

[550] It's like a weird box.

[551] He lived in like some test community of their own nuclear power plants in their backyards.

[552] Yeah, Columbus Ohio is the number of cancer cluster.

[553] Nuclear reactors.

[554] It was a test market town.

[555] So like we had like, like, you know, banana frosties before everyone.

[556] You were a test market town?

[557] Yes, Columbus, Ohio would, they would test out like burgers and like I would talk to my friends that my cousins that live in a different state and they're like we don't have that kind of weird burger at macdonald's what are you talking about and i found out that it's we the people that company's test market at uh columbus ohio because that's the most average city in the whole entire country country yeah that makes sense columbus is like that you're like the whitest people on it's kind of almost pretty close to the middle too isn't it columbus sure yeah did you ever hear about sister's chicken did you guys ever have that was a windy's version of kfc that they were trying out uh and it was just three old ladies and was the logo and it was like KFC's like Wicked Sisters.

[558] And I don't think it worked the last like two years or something.

[559] Never heard of it.

[560] That's a good idea.

[561] Yeah.

[562] I'll say the green box The green box.

[563] The green box.

[564] The green box that fucked you up.

[565] Another thing that happened to him, he was living in an apartment and there's a duct overhead like a heating duct where the hot air would come through.

[566] Turns out that wasn't what that was.

[567] Somebody had hooked up the wrong thing to the gas furnace and it was blowing straight carbon dioxide from the gas furnace no yes yeah he lived like that for a year okay here's that you not blow up he's dead no exactly i died a long time ago uh here's here's here's the green box and it makes him stutter now green box these things i've seen similar things but like on the corners of intersections yeah we had one in our backyard and i would just sit there and get data bites pumped into me as a child that's that's well obviously it has something to do with electricity that's something to do with electricity yeah that's not good but we didn't have have the warning labels like this one has a nice warning label don't like it says something on it like hey don't even get close to this have they ever made a connection a correlation between um living near power like those big giant towers you know those electrical towers with cancer clusters yeah that's what they yeah they have made a correlation well no that I mean you can it's it's one of the things where you can find both sides that'll have equally compelling arguments that right they're right so that means means, no, there has been no definitive.

[568] But, I mean, it kind of breaks down to kind of common sense a little bit.

[569] If you're camped under these things that are like, who.

[570] Jesus Christ, you're scared me just thinking about that.

[571] With power lines, I mean.

[572] There's so much fucking power going through there.

[573] Have you noticed, though, most schools or public parks are kind of way right under those.

[574] Right under those.

[575] Yeah.

[576] That's the only free spot that was available.

[577] That's cheap land.

[578] Yeah.

[579] There it is.

[580] That's where we put to school.

[581] Yeah, man. When you drive by those things and you can hear them, you roll down, you win, in here.

[582] How about the heavy duty ones?

[583] You know what I mean?

[584] The big iron towers with the terrified.

[585] Cables like this.

[586] Oh, my God.

[587] Dude, I saw a show about that once, man. When the guys are on helicopters, they have to do the maintenance for those lines.

[588] Oh, my God.

[589] They actually have to make a connection to the line, like, with the helicopter to ground it before they can start working with their parents.

[590] Like, one of the most dangerous jobs you could have.

[591] That might have been the show I was watching, like, life's most dangerous jobs.

[592] Those dudes are nuts, man. Motherfucker.

[593] They're like in metal suits.

[594] Oh, Jesus.

[595] It's nuts, man. Just think of what that must be, you must be feeling when you're above one of those things, and you know that just touching it, just reaching it.

[596] And they're grabbing.

[597] They're grabbing it, man. They're doing maintenance on it.

[598] They're like putting, they're fixing it.

[599] The connectors that keep them together.

[600] They're fixing it.

[601] You have to trust it.

[602] You have to trust in the science.

[603] another piece of the helicopter that they have to come out and it has to touch the wire while they're working on it.

[604] Apparently one of the most common things isn't getting electrocuted.

[605] It's that the tail of the helicopter hits the wire and they just go into oblivion.

[606] Of course, if they get hit with a gust, right?

[607] It's almost impossible for them to stop.

[608] It's apparently like one of the craziest most dangerous jobs.

[609] If you had to do that kind of maintenance.

[610] I was really high watching that.

[611] I was just like, that's crazy, man. I think I was on the back of the tour.

[612] bus just like 18 hour drive just watching whatever it was on but i was like stumbled across that i was like oh joe here here's here's here's here's actually that's you singing what are you doing before i got on the helicopter brian what's wrong with you that's yeah this might have been the show yeah that's to say that was me before getting on yeah watch this dog these that's are nuts man they're like these crazy suits one guy's got to touch the wire oh my see what i'm saying look at god this is insane oh my god oh my god God, he has to climb up.

[613] He climbs up, but he's sitting in a harness on top of the fucking wires.

[614] Brian, why did you mix this together?

[615] Brian made this video himself.

[616] Yeah, this is an old music video.

[617] I had to mix with that stuff in it, though.

[618] Oh, my God, but look at that guy walking on those wires.

[619] That is absolutely horrifying.

[620] That's crazy, man. And I got all of garden breadsticks right there.

[621] Half a million volts, isn't that what that is?

[622] Is that what it is?

[623] How much will kill you?

[624] How is it?

[625] A lot less than that.

[626] That's like, they would incinerate you, right?

[627] When you just explode or something?

[628] something yeah but he's grounded somehow like he's like grounded on like i watched the whole thing hi man it was it was amazing and they were charred like those dudes were on some they're on some like adrenaline junkie shit oh they must be yeah like this the greatest job well could you imagine if it was doing something to them what if it was like making them superpower they started like winning the olympics and shit X -man thing starts the root the whole that might have been me was that really no that had you be you Brian wasn't it It's pretty loud.

[629] It's so loud.

[630] I'll tell you right now.

[631] It wasn't me. It's not me. My shit's not even on.

[632] All right.

[633] Well, I'm just glad I'm not the guy who did it.

[634] Yeah.

[635] Anyway, where were we?

[636] We were talking about how that's where the mutations start.

[637] Where the X -Men begin is on them lines right there.

[638] When one time I, you know, when I used to do Fear Factor, I would eat like pot candies or something before the show.

[639] show just to kind of keep me like a chill but happy and fun mood all day sometimes you're sitting around all day and it's boring and if you don't you don't got a buzz it doesn't feel as good it's not as interesting but one of the days I showed up every now and then when something would freak me out I would show up at work and I'd be a little baked and they'd tell me what we're going to do and one of the things they told me is we're going to have these people ride bulls and I was like oh this is a terrible terrible terrible idea like when you're high and they're telling you're going to ride a bull you're like oh no sir no no I'm not getting on that thing What is this?

[640] We're going to do what?

[641] You're going to make people do that?

[642] You're going to get them and get on that animal?

[643] That's fucking crazy.

[644] The only time when we ever did that show where I felt like we were totally rolling the dice, hoping nobody got hurt.

[645] That was the only time was we made them ride bulls.

[646] Because you can't, you can't protect them from that fucking animal.

[647] You can only, you know, you can only say so much, we're going to try.

[648] We're going to try to keep it from stomping you.

[649] But we can't guarantee you.

[650] We'll give you a chest plate and a helmet.

[651] But you're going to let it, imagine you let the bull gore you.

[652] Yeah, with a chest plate and a helmet.

[653] Go.

[654] come get me I got a chest plate and helmet on oh my god you'd feel so fragile hell yeah we got lucky with that one one girl she was 98 pounds something maybe she was on this bull and she agreed to do it I'm like you're sure and she goes yeah I'm gonna do it I'm gonna go for it she got on the fucking boat she lasted for just a couple of seconds of course right the bull launches her through the air she goes flying and just barely misses her with a kick just barely misses her and I just would think about like what a ridiculous thing we could have got this little girl kicked in the head for some stupid reality show you know and she like how much bread was it at the end of the show 50 grand if you want she falls down she was okay funny though dude like not to be little money but yeah isn't it funny what people will do for so little money well they do it for fun too a lot of them they do it just you know there's people that do it and they think that they're going to be able to eventually get some sort of a career in reality TV well you know people have done it even though it's actually turned into that I know it is weird but you know what I'm saying like as long as they're nice people I don't give a fuck you know I you could start weirding out about what people watch and don't watch and I have I've gone down that road before look what the fuck is wrong with us why are we watching the Kardashians but you know the other part of me is like give us a fuck well they're hoping she's gonna suck another dick soon she's done man the only way she would suck another dick it's like she would have to like drop drastically in the ratings to make another sex tape it would be really hard to get her to put one out now but you know it's like a NASCAR race that's they're not waiting for the end they're waiting for the crash you know this my prediction the next sex tape won't be her getting fucked it'd be a dude eating their pussy for like a half an hour that's it that's a sex tape and then she releases that one whoopsies that got out and that would that would kick her back up to the next level if she was like crying at a press conference i can't believe this this was so personal i used that image to masturbate to when i'm on the road my my assistant stole it from my laptop you know that would that could be her next level shit she might have to do that in about two years because like now people are like making Like, Kardashian jokes are probably like the number one joke on Twitter.

[655] You know, if you're going to make a joke about the Kardashians.

[656] You know what I mean?

[657] It's like, it's so low -hanging fruit.

[658] It's so easy.

[659] I saw that movie Young Adult last night, the Pat and Oswald.

[660] Throughout the whole movie, you know what it's about?

[661] No, I don't have any heard of it.

[662] Charlize Theron and Pat and Oswald, it's fucking really funny.

[663] And really brilliant, like a brilliant movie.

[664] But one of the things is the chick, who's the crazy chick, Charlize Theron.

[665] All she watches is Kim Kardashian.

[666] She just watches every time you're, you're, You're seeing her at home.

[667] She's just like sitting in front of the TV watching Kim Kardashian and her sister talk with like this mindless glaze in her eye.

[668] That's hilarious.

[669] You're like, holy fuck, that is America, man. You know, those people are responsible for that fucking signal that they're putting out there, man. They are turning, if anybody's turning people into zombies.

[670] Yeah.

[671] But this whole movie throughout the whole movie, this crazy bitch, Charlie's Theron is obsessed with her high school boyfriend.

[672] It's just watching the Kardashians on TV.

[673] It's a good movie, man. It's a really, like the ending's kind of weird.

[674] Is it like in the movie theaters?

[675] movie or yes yeah yeah yeah i saw it last night it's a good movie it's fucking i said patten oswald's a bad motherfucker he's funny man he's gonna do the podcast again soon has he even done it no i say again soon yeah oops do it soon we need to get him on it yeah yeah yeah that movie that he did with what jala finakis and the guy with the glasses the comedians of comedy oh yeah oh yeah yeah our buddy filmed that yeah that whole thing man it's hilarious man yeah those guys are awesome there's a there's a bunch of real good stand -ups right now it's a good time for stand -up comedy we're all starting to break through too like in other like you know like you know of course Zach yeah yeah Pat and Oswald everywhere really Zach Galvanakis is one of those guys that I can't help smile when I'm watching him yeah he's like one of those guys I see him doing something stupid in the movie you know even though what was it due date or something like that yeah wasn't the best movie the world but i'm watching him and he he's he makes me smile he's just so ridiculous you know brodie stole the whole movie do you think so yeah i love the little brodie hiding like out of nowhere you'll find our friend brodie stevens uh he's friends with zack so every time uh zack does a movie or does anything zach throws him in as like these little roles and stuff and every role it's almost playing like where's wado for brodie stevens like oh there he is he's in the he's a police guy who's why do you have a google I forgot to switch it back to my camera.

[676] Tripping me the fuck out, man. I'm like, what's your point, man?

[677] This whole thing is starting to trip me out.

[678] The car turns over here.

[679] It's very distracting.

[680] There's a TV over here where my face, like, I'll turn, and my face will be on it.

[681] It'll startle me, and then I'll look back, and it'll be like some other thing.

[682] Some goatsy image.

[683] Yeah, this is the next level of ADD -type shit for people.

[684] You know, just a conversation alone.

[685] It's too boring, man. They have, like, 18 screens going.

[686] He was showing me earlier.

[687] He was just watching random strangers play video games.

[688] Yeah, he does that.

[689] He'll go and watch video games.

[690] He showed me the homepage and it was like, I was like, that's the fucking matrix.

[691] Look at it, dude.

[692] Yeah, it's like, what game do you want to spy on?

[693] Woman's tennis?

[694] Look, all those people are in the fucking computer right now and they're all playing games.

[695] Pretty nuts, right?

[696] And most of them are trying to kill each other.

[697] Exactly.

[698] And, you know, this is only step one.

[699] What's it going to look like 100 years from now?

[700] Oh, it's going to be thrown warfare, dude.

[701] What was your go -to video game back in the day when you played a lot of games?

[702] The last one?

[703] I was kind of a so -com freak.

[704] So -com.

[705] Yeah, because I like seeing the guy, like the character.

[706] I don't like the where you always see is the hands and the gun.

[707] I like seeing the little guy running around.

[708] I don't want to feel like I'm actually killing people.

[709] I don't know there's a game going on.

[710] Have you played Gears of War?

[711] That's kind of like that.

[712] I think one of the first versions I might have played.

[713] You know, when I got married and had a kid, man, it was just, it was a rap.

[714] like the video games like are like can't justify video games it's hard and the video games to me is I always say I just I'm always terrified that I'm going to become addicted to them I'm terrified they're too good man video games these days by the time I'm an old man and retire I could just sit around and it shouldn't be crazy by then like three dimensional surround sound you're going to pierce your own brain you're going to pierce your own tempo with some things it's going to what was that what was that crazy Christopher walking movie with the brain stuff with Natalie wood oh shit what was that movie yeah dreams dream something dream scape there it is dream scape yeah wow do you know that there's uh new questions about natalie wood and her husband yeah a few a month or so yeah man just just recently robert wagner wagner wactor man well that's what this guy's saying this oh that yeah but they saw him on the on today's show i think he was on he was also selling a book you know that yeah yeah yeah he was selling on a book in which he said that Robert Wagner killed her.

[715] He said he heard a bunch of fighting.

[716] And he heard, like, violence, and then he heard silence.

[717] What's that guy's name again?

[718] Do you know the guy that...

[719] The guy was writing the book?

[720] Robert Wagner, I'm sorry.

[721] Robert Wagner.

[722] Yeah.

[723] Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood.

[724] I got to find you this...

[725] Heart to heart.

[726] I got to find you in this video.

[727] It's going to trip you out.

[728] Why?

[729] It's...

[730] This guy asks this question to the guy that's selling the book.

[731] He asked the same question, like, seven times in a row.

[732] And it got to the point where it was like a joke, like a Saturday Night Live skit.

[733] He's like, okay, Last time, same question.

[734] And he kept on doing it.

[735] So the guy wouldn't answer the question?

[736] He, I'll show it to you.

[737] Okay.

[738] I think I might have seen this too.

[739] Yeah.

[740] Does he sound like a crazy person?

[741] Yes.

[742] Oh, okay.

[743] I need to hear that.

[744] Yes.

[745] You always need to hear that.

[746] Whenever someone's accusing somebody and killing somebody.

[747] Well, he's doing that real quick.

[748] And one of your stand -up specials, dude, you talk about that video about the horse that.

[749] Yes.

[750] Mr. Hans.

[751] Did you ever see the documentary they made?

[752] Zoo.

[753] Yeah.

[754] I saw that like not too long.

[755] I was like, that's Joe's joke.

[756] That's the one Joe's joke was about.

[757] I had to watch the whole freaking thing.

[758] They changed a law because of that dude.

[759] She was crazy, dog.

[760] It was just like, seeing these people, like being interviewed and speaking about their little zoophilia or whatever they call it.

[761] Yeah.

[762] Well, you know, it was sort of a documentary.

[763] It was sort of like a performance documentary where they had actors play roles.

[764] Oh, was it?

[765] Yeah.

[766] Because the guy's dead, you know, and he was in through a lot of it.

[767] Like, it was a real sneaky way they did that documentary.

[768] But what it did was it forced them to change.

[769] the law there people were moving there so they could fuck animals legally that's what these people did they met online they met in a chat room they said I like fucking animals I'm just gonna put that out there and then everybody's like damn I like animals fucking me let's let's do this let's move in together and they moved in together and they got like you know an area where they all lived and they would go to a farm and film they had hundreds of hours of guys getting fucked by donkeys and horses it was crazy man here's the video right here he's just lets you know man that there's always going to be someone who's taking it deeper.

[770] I can't answer that question right now.

[771] And why not?

[772] You're referring to mistakes you made.

[773] Have you changed your story from when you spoke to investigators years ago?

[774] I did lie on a report years ago.

[775] And what did you lie about then?

[776] It was just the, I made mistakes by not telling the honest truth in a, in a, in a police report well just be specific i mean we've talked about the broad outlines of the story what is it that you were untruthful about just everything that took place that weekend was the fight between natalie wood and her husband robert wagner what ultimately led to her death yes how so if i tell you that you won't buy my book like i said that's going to be up to the investigators to decide.

[777] The point you're making is that it's because of information in the book, information that you're bringing to them that they would be reopening this investigation.

[778] Is it your charge that in fact Robert Wagner essentially tried to make this a low profile investigation, did not do everything he could to try to find her once she went missing after their argument?

[779] Yes, it was to be kept a low profile investigation.

[780] So your saying that Wagner did not do everything he should have done to look for her after she went missing?

[781] Exactly.

[782] Was he responsible for her death in some way?

[783] Well, like I said, I think we all made mistakes that night.

[784] Mr. Daven, that wasn't my question.

[785] Was he responsible for her death?

[786] I'm not asking about your story.

[787] Yes, I would say so, yes.

[788] How so?

[789] I really don't want to get involved in that question.

[790] Well, how can you come on national television, sir, and accuse him of something like that but not back it up well that's something to the investigators that's actually not the video i was talking about but that's still pretty interesting well yeah he sounds like there's definitely something missing something's ticking when it should be talking and talking when should be ticking right he's all i'm not saying i mean yeah that's all he's doing right he ain't nothing being speculated about the it wasn't speculated about the day she went drowned yeah exactly well didn't william shackner's wife like turn up drowned too was in his pool oh shit wasn't that in his backyard hard to drown somebody in a pool yeah what happened i haven't nothing than william shatner i think he was out of town that's good move so he did it right we're not insinuating anything whatever yeah that guy i'm not buying that too you're a comedian and you have to sometimes explain that to people yeah you do this is a sad world we live in wow man when you can say retard without any repercussions funny is like you know colin sure like i think he's a pretty funny dude it's hilarious sometimes he says some real outrageous shit, right?

[791] And he gets under people's feathers, but like he'll say something about like when Kim John Ill died or something.

[792] And like, I love him because he just retweets every stupid hateful thing that gets sent to him.

[793] But it's like these people are like really saying like, how could you say something like that?

[794] It's like, don't you realize you're following a comedian?

[795] Yeah.

[796] And like a real smart -assed like sarcastic one at that?

[797] Yeah.

[798] I was like, it just blows my mind how literal people are yeah well you know one of the things was uh catching news was that he was accusing uh will feral of stealing the movie anchorman from him and talking about the really bad bad drugs that will was doing i mean it's just so reads like a goddamn colinquin punchline the really bad bad drugs that he was doing you know and people bought into it man it was becoming news like you dummies you silly fucks we live in a more and more literal world to see how quickly how many people can drop him or something like his number one fluctuate.

[799] I look at his number as much as his tweets just because it's funny, like, who do he piss off today?

[800] Yeah, Colin Quinn is underappreciated genius.

[801] He's one of the funniest guys I've ever seen.

[802] I think it's funny when, like, people listen to comedians and then a comedian actually has to say once in a while like, yo, these are jokes.

[803] We're not serious.

[804] Well, Colin's style of smart -assy, really smart comedy is so unusual, man. I hardly ever get to say it's hard for us to see each other unless we're like, you know, if I just happen to be in a town where someone's doing a set.

[805] I'll stop in and watch them do a full set or if I catch like a special.

[806] But other than that, you know, I'm in one town there in another.

[807] It's hard to see him.

[808] So I did a tough crowd once.

[809] And it was like one of the first times I got to see Colin do like a long set.

[810] And he did it in front of all of his fans, you know, because they're also.

[811] So he would like warm up the crowd.

[812] God damn, he was good.

[813] It was really good.

[814] It's like when you see him like tight, like Colin Quinn's a bad motherfucker.

[815] He doesn't get nearly enough respect.

[816] You know, people that he's so self -deprecating that people just, you know, for whatever reason.

[817] I don't know what it is.

[818] I mean, he just, he's too smart.

[819] It's whatever it is.

[820] His frequency he's too, he's too, uh, it's too good for some people to figure out.

[821] The world is getting a little too dumb.

[822] Is that what it is?

[823] Is it really that bad?

[824] I mean, how, isn't there a way to snap us out of this, man?

[825] That's another thing about the one of the things you did a couple years ago.

[826] I don't know if it was the same special, but it was about the, when all the smart people die is like, yo, that day's coming, man. It's possible.

[827] It's coming.

[828] It is possible.

[829] And that's what you have to think about.

[830] And I thought you off a little bit with that idiotocracy movie.

[831] Maybe, but it's, I don't think I'm the only one who's ever had that thought.

[832] I think other people have been thinking that people think stupid or stupid.

[833] I'm just saying a little bit.

[834] Yeah, I've ripped off a lot of chords from a lot of songs, man. It's not always...

[835] Listen, I met Mike Judge.

[836] He didn't seem guilty when I met him, so...

[837] Yeah, he probably didn't write it anyway.

[838] I love him.

[839] I love that movie.

[840] I'm just saying, this seems like something on, this seems kind of like that premise.

[841] Yeah, I should have got that special out earlier.

[842] I should have got a roll.

[843] Actually, the special was out before idioticry.

[844] That's my point.

[845] That's what I'm saying.

[846] The special was out in 2005, Idiocracy was 2006, but I had been redoing that bit for a couple of years.

[847] That bit came from one mushroom trip.

[848] One mushroom trip, but I just sat and looked at the whole progression of the human race and that it was some sort of a crazy fight between overpopulation of stupid people and, like, packets of really intelligent people figuring out matter itself to the point of, you know, total, complete complexity where they blow up the whole universe and we restart all over again.

[849] But that all came from a mushroom trip.

[850] Then I started thinking about how ridiculous it was that I put all my faith, my food, the warmth and the cold of my family, all in the hands of things that I totally don't understand.

[851] I just hit switches.

[852] I haven't researched them.

[853] I don't know what the fuck powers them.

[854] I have no idea the science behind it.

[855] I don't know.

[856] I'm just open the refrigerator, take some milk, pour a glass.

[857] I don't know how the fuck this milk has been able to sit in my refrigerator for a week and not turn it to rotten cheese.

[858] You know what I mean?

[859] But it's been pulverized through some crazy machine that I'll never be able to understand.

[860] Got into the point where all the bacteria is broken down So you can store it in your refrigerator that you don't understand Some box that keeps shit cold And that's the only way we can all live like this The only way we can all live like this And nobody understands it And then I just had that You know, then the bit just sort of wrote itself I tell everybody everybody's like You get on these tangents about nuclear bombs And even viruses which is perfectly logical But I'm saying the real all it really would take Would be let the lights go out for a week And let's see where we are as a civilization when everything stops working yeah well it's not good man you know a person's real true character comes out in a situation where everything gets tested and a lot of people never get tested they just never get tested through their life they coast through the boring but easy job and they go to sleep and they get up and they do it all over again and then the shit never hits the fan and if shit does hit the fan is when you need to know how to shoot a deer okay you shot the deer right what do you do now can you find it it now how far did it run can you follow blood trails and what's okay you wait you you shot it you found it it's dead okay even then now what right yeah gut it quarter it how do you keep the meat good exactly yeah meat's only good for a few hours man what are you gonna do unless you get it cut up right yeah you got to cut it up get in the refrigerator yeah yeah it's nuts man the other process is so simple now we go to a supermarket it's like we've accelerated everything to the point where it's ridiculous you can get meat like that you know you could right well who would have ever thought you could you could just Just step out into the street, walk a block, and get a fucking fat, thick, juicy rib -eye steak.

[861] Perfectly cut, like perfectly aged, right, ready to go.

[862] You do no preparation whatsoever.

[863] Just say, I'll take that.

[864] Boom.

[865] You take it home.

[866] There's fire.

[867] Boom.

[868] And you're cooking it in like seconds.

[869] And if you're really impatient, there's nuclear, like, technology right there in your kitchen, ready to cook your food.

[870] Yeah, you can microwave the fuck out of it and just eat it then, right?

[871] It's amazing.

[872] It's amazing what we've come.

[873] to it's such a short period of human history we you know alien technology man do you think so trust me I got it in my body man I'm part alien now do you believe in aliens for reals again one of those things that I just I put up to it's like I can't not believe in aliens right I can't sit here until you I know there's aliens and I've seen them but it's like all right every one of those lights up there is a sun odds are there's got to be you know another another branch of intelligence it just seems ridiculous to think that there wouldn't be it seems it seems like we've already figured out that things are recreated all over the galaxies like glass gas giants rocky planets planets in the golly log zone planets with water planets without water like we can apparently read their atmosphere somehow or another they can figure that shit out I don't know how but they can figure out like what temperature a planet is thousands of light years away it's a strange strange thing I don't know how the fuck they do it but they found a lot of planets like this a lot so there's got to be some other shit there's got to be some other shit it's 100 % I mean and then you know you get into the whole interdimensional speaking of you know how you know what if we're dealing with dimensional aspects you know your brain can blow up you got to be hard to think about some of this stuff you know it's funny but we what we well all we do by ridiculing any of that shit is just we're just trying to control reality to even the ridiculous part that we understand as is the ridiculous part of us being a part of a galaxy and that galaxy a part of the universe that universe being one part of one universe and there's an infinite amount of universes like just all these nutty nutty that we know to be true like wrapping our heads around infinity and the ideas we know that to be true we don't want to go any further than that you start introducing new shit you start introducing aliens I got no room I got no room for your crazy alien talk it's like there's almost like the reality that we're absorbing as it is is so baffling and so fucking crazy that we're like almost unwilling to look at anything that's more confusing not to mention that you know then the powers there be have also mixed this magical thing called religion into the into the fat into the whole thing so if a ship full of aliens actually came and landed in full view of everybody that fucks up a lot of people's like belief systems yeah it's over it really does you know what I mean it would be interesting like who would like jockey first to try to like get cool with the aliens like the Catholic Church and the aliens have made peace and you know the next thing you know it's Jesus was an alien he was the first and true and only alien you know what I mean it becomes this whole war of like they drop off a new gospel yeah they bring us a new gospel it's a floating USB card it says all the other religions are to be wiped out that would be so easy man could you imagine if you were from another planet and you had some super dope technology and you want to come out and you knew the history of the religions okay what's the number one religion most popular is a Christianity Islam it's one of those Okay, well, this is what we do.

[874] Then we're going to come down with one guy that has both of those religions in his history and he's going to do some fucking magic and he's going to take over the planet.

[875] There you go.

[876] That's all you would have to do.

[877] Not even magic to them.

[878] Not even magic.

[879] And that's natural.

[880] They can do that.

[881] Can you imagine just landing a helicopter a thousand years ago, just going back and landing a a fucking helicopter and seeing people freak out and run for cover?

[882] You know, just what kind of a world are we going to be living in in just another decade, just another 20 years, just another 50 years?

[883] Dude, a thousand years, you could have just broke out a flashlight and got that effect.

[884] Yeah, right?

[885] Yeah, no shit.

[886] The fires contained.

[887] Piss magic.

[888] Yeah, everybody had fire.

[889] That's what they had for, for, until a hundred.

[890] That was cutting edge technology right, man. A fire and a knife.

[891] You were good.

[892] You were caught up with the Joneses.

[893] Right, because electricity is only like a couple hundred years old, right?

[894] What's the, what was the, when was electricity?

[895] Late 1800?

[896] Yeah, Tesla, right?

[897] That was the beginning of the mass level, maybe not even until the early, 1900s.

[898] hundreds yeah wow that's amazing they were using fire to stay to keep things lit candles and shit in the city kites to charge their phones that really makes like like Leonardo da Vinci like some of his shit even more impressive that he did that shit by candlelight you know think about the 16th chapel think of doing that shit with candles you know god damn motherfucker had fire he was lit by fire and he was still motivated enough to do that on his back for on his back however many years Jesus Christ how long did that take I don't know I had to take a couple years that's one of the great artworks of human kind not longer yeah I'm sure I'm underestimating can imagine with all the other dudes who were like trying to be artists back in the days of Leonardo Da Vinci guys were like thought they were pretty badass you know I'm working on some pretty cool pieces pretty proud of it you know I think I'm kind of the shit and you're yeah you knew that Leonardo da Vinci dude yeah he's been painting the ceiling for three years on his back the shit's brilliant and inventing the helicopter in his spare time yeah and figuring out how to make a fucking biplane yeah you know yeah that dude was on speed or something he's insane he's amazing dude man you talk about like some super dude you know what what an amazing mind that guy had wish there was film of that guy you know he's one of those guys you wish like man we really missed out on getting some recordings of that guy talking.

[899] Get him a podcast.

[900] He must have been a super genius.

[901] I mean, he must have been some insane through the roof IQ type character.

[902] It seemed like he would like just sketch all these like insane machines out and figure things out.

[903] And then perfect anatomy.

[904] I mean, you know, just what, what amazing, amazing mind that guy must have had.

[905] Do you ever draw or do any kind of art?

[906] I mean, a little bit.

[907] I came into music.

[908] Actually, I was a graffiti writer.

[909] with a bunch of cats and some of them started making some music for fun and I kind of followed suit and it just became you know something that had you know I luck there's somebody within that group knew iced tea and that's how that whole thing took off ICT signed me but I don't make as much art that must be pretty fucking cool to get signed by ice tea yeah when you're saying I was 17 oh damn you must have been like holy shit I just got signed by ice tea that's amazing and it was before like people it wasn't like about you know there were no super duper 100 million record selling people in rap it was like you know the biggest people were like run DMC at that time and wow you know not the public enemy and a few you know stuff like that it was just starting to crack and then I was just doing it for fun and dude asked me if I wanted to make a record for him and I said sure yeah why not and I made a record for him and next thing was house of pain and whatnot but to answer the question I collect a lot of art I don't really You do collector?

[910] Yeah, I'm an avid, like, graffiti -based and street art -based collector of art. Yeah.

[911] I love that.

[912] There's a website for, I think it's E -S -T -Y, I think is what it is, something like that.

[913] But it's for artists.

[914] And a lot of our listeners who are artists will sell, like, posters on this website.

[915] And lately I've been just buying up so much, like, posters, like, original prints.

[916] Because it's, like, one out of 20.

[917] We're only printing out 20 pieces of this.

[918] And so for 15 bucks, I'll just, oh, right, I'll have one of those 15 or one of this 20.

[919] And now I'm just out of nowhere, started collecting art because of this one website.

[920] It's amazing website.

[921] Yes, T -Y, I believe it is.

[922] It's fun.

[923] I started out like, I don't know, 10 years or so, maybe more ago, maybe 15 years ago, collecting all these toys out of Hong Kong that these graffiti writers from America were going, like all these Asian cats were big fans of the whole graffiti scene.

[924] And they would hire these cats to make toys for companies like bounty hunter and medicom and all these.

[925] So I collected all these toys.

[926] And then I ran into a homie that was like the editor of a art magazine called Juxtapose.

[927] And he was like, yo, this is cool.

[928] You collect these toys.

[929] But he's like, you should be actually collecting paintings and art. And I was like, okay.

[930] And the next thing I knew, I was like, you know, I became, I'm like an obsessive.

[931] I have like a thousand pairs of sneeze.

[932] I like have it.

[933] Holy shit.

[934] What's your brand?

[935] Most of them aren't even open.

[936] Most of them like.

[937] Really?

[938] I got like 200 pairs of sneakers probably that I just rotate.

[939] Wow.

[940] You know what I mean?

[941] That I'd wear and then there's probably like six, 800 pairs of sneakers like in boxes.

[942] Like I had a whole thing at the Grammy Museum.

[943] They had a hip -hop exhibit with like all my sneak like my top 50 sneakers.

[944] What is it about sneakers?

[945] Well, what I'm explaining is like I go, well, for a cat like me and rap like this, like there's a whole like I'm what I call a B -boy.

[946] I consider myself a B -boy.

[947] right which is like you know in the truest sense of the word is a break boy a cat that break dances but it became like the the title if you're a hip hop like connoisseur like that I consider myself to be right I mean I'm just that's how I live with B -Boy like you know like a Hesher would be a rock dude a B -boy is to hip -hop if an SAT question that's how it would be Hesher is to rock as B -boy is third base they would be B -boys sure Yeah, definitely.

[948] But collected sneakers is kind of part of that.

[949] It's part of the culture.

[950] I could be in some dirty clothes if I had a new piece of jewelry and some new sneakers on.

[951] You can't tell me nothing.

[952] Do you have a favorite brand?

[953] Are you like a pro -a -guy or something?

[954] I'm like, I'm pretty much a Nike snob, you know, like old school Air Force ones and Jordans and stuff like that.

[955] Did you get the Voltrons?

[956] I haven't, I stopped collecting a couple years ago.

[957] I still buy sneakers, but I force myself to wear them all.

[958] like I don't buy I used to buy compulsively just be like I don't even know if I like those but put them over there so do you have like a closet that's specially designed for sneakers the bedroom that no it's not designed it just looks like a back room storage spot of a foot locker it's kind of crazy really yeah it's retarded like you just have boxes all over your house I won't even show it anymore because it's shameful it's like that's incredible shameful but the point I even brought it up though is that I'm compulsive like that after I was doing the sneakers and I like I said I collected these toys and then when I stopped doing both of those I kind of sank all that energy into collecting like paintings I have like paintings now in how I have a couple different houses I have paintings like just like there's too many even hang on walls they're like in stacks just laying on on against leaning up against walls wow you should give tours man I bet you have some amazing shit or do a little video blog for your website there's a lot of cats that are blowing up really big right now that I've had for a long time cause and Sheper Ferry I was collecting before he was, you know, but like Banksy you know, all, you know.

[959] You got some Banksy?

[960] Jose Parla.

[961] Yeah.

[962] And all kinds.

[963] This is a big on a cat named Crayola, Greg Simpkins.

[964] It's a big time painting.

[965] You know what I mean?

[966] It's all everything at Futura, all cats like that.

[967] But everything's based around graffiti or street art, like cats that actually started like in the streets putting their art up.

[968] That's awesome.

[969] I went to this dude's house.

[970] Once had a house in the Hollywood Hills and he had a whole wall of his house, like he had a crazy house on a glass wall that faced the city, you know, the whole deal.

[971] And a whole like long wall of his house was a gallery.

[972] It was set up like for rotating pieces of art. And he would, you know, literally like harvest some of the best artists in the world and buy their shit and rotate new stuff from there to his like he had warehouses where he would store the pieces that he wasn't showing.

[973] I'm getting to the point where I have to find like a professional place.

[974] soon just doing a lot of my art yeah this dude had his house set up like a museum i mean he would wrote he's incredibly incredibly rich the house i was telling you about up here in the hills before i had a kid and got married that's all it was the downstairs of the house had no furniture it was just paintings all around let me ask you something about living in the hills because i i've had uh friends that were robbed up there i've had a couple of friends that have encountered up in the hollywood hills that's why you need mobs oh you're talking about you up here yeah um but the Hollywood Hills is what I was talking about.

[975] Like, I've heard a lot of people getting, like, home invasions and shit in the Hollywood Hills.

[976] I'm sure, man. You get caught slipping.

[977] I mean, I used to live in Mount Olympus, actually, which is right up there in Laurel Canyon.

[978] And I lived up there for many years and never had a problem.

[979] But I'm that dude that when he's driving home from the store, like, has the gun in his lap.

[980] And I make two extra turns.

[981] I'm that dude.

[982] That's awesome.

[983] It's not because I'm on this thing that everybody's out to get me, but it's like I'm not going to be the guy to get got because I was stupid.

[984] Right.

[985] And I just have been trained like that, but I owe that to, like, actually a lot of like Cyprus homies and, and them cats when we was all coming up together because they kind of came, I came from suburbia, you know, I mean, not rich suburbia, you know, lower class, lower middle class, but middle class nonetheless.

[986] And these cats came from, you know, like I was with ice and all them.

[987] Like, I ran with the syndicate for a while, but I never was, like, dipped into, like, he was already a grown man into the entertainment business.

[988] His big gangster and all that days were right behind him.

[989] Cyprus guys were fresh off the street, you know what I mean, like when they first made that first record.

[990] So I learned a lot from them about, like, how to roll, like, places.

[991] And, yo, they were always worried about who was following them when they were leaving.

[992] So it kind of, even though it didn't apply to me always, it stuck with me to be that alert about things.

[993] And also because I tend to wear a lot of jewelry.

[994] I have a really nice car.

[995] That has to suck, though, that constant paranoia almost like you're at, you know, Olive Garden.

[996] It's not a paranoia, though.

[997] Like I said, I'm not like, everybody's out to get me, but it's like, let me just be sure of who I and where I am and what's what's around me you know what I mean so I'll make that extra turn I'll make that if I and I've I've been lucky long enough to think that luck is I don't you know I really don't believe in luck is it's just a word that you use because if if there was such thing as luck you know you could fuck a pig and actually have a real kid you know what I mean like that would be magic more than luck the goat magic you'd be lucky it'd be lucky I don't believe in magic so but it's mad luck is magic to a certain degree that's my point in a way in a weird way.

[998] What I'm saying is like I've been alert enough that I know that I have actually avoided a few times of actually beings robbed or this or that and the other by just by circumstances and how I reacted to them and how I was alert alert to them.

[999] There was times when I was in New York at certain clubs where I definitely knew I was being I was being like stalked and about to be preyed upon and I would happen to bump into some cats that I knew and I'd be like I'm already alerted to these dudes.

[1000] You know, and it'd be like just the fact that now I'm with some peoples I know and then they know I'm on to them, you know what I mean?

[1001] You're by yourself, you know what I mean?

[1002] If you ain't, and then you're oblivious, I mean, like, it's, you know, that's the worst thing is being oblivious to what's going on around you.

[1003] That is a crazy thing you have to worry about people physically jacking you, taking your shit.

[1004] Everybody does.

[1005] You don't think about it all?

[1006] Of course, everybody does.

[1007] But it's a thing that we have to worry about.

[1008] I keep real, I made a lot of music and all that, but my profile is nowhere near yours.

[1009] You know what I mean?

[1010] I've sold a lot of records, whatever.

[1011] I keep a low profile on purpose.

[1012] I like going to Ralphs.

[1013] I like it.

[1014] I like going to the olive bar and making my own little bowl of olives.

[1015] I like that.

[1016] I enjoy that.

[1017] I like getting a little box of cheese and some olives and going home.

[1018] I do too.

[1019] That sounds good.

[1020] And watching whatever it is, the UFC or a football game or whatever.

[1021] I like to be able to do that.

[1022] I like to be able to drive my car and enjoy it.

[1023] Right.

[1024] You know what I mean?

[1025] So I keep my, my music is far more famous than I am as a face.

[1026] Right.

[1027] You got to worry, you're the face of a sport to a certain degree.

[1028] So it's like your profile is way bigger.

[1029] Very nice to me. Most people are decent, nice people.

[1030] We're not worried about those people That's true Those aren't the people We're worried about You have to worry With a small percentage That are nice Yeah You had a public Online battle with Eminem And I know this is old And everything like that But a lot of us Followed it But it was I didn't find out about Until today Is that right?

[1031] Yeah It was a very I mean amongst us It was known And our fans It was known But it was like It was like this thing Over Napster Like I never Released a record About it Because I wasn't Trying to profit Off the situation It was a personal thing between me and him.

[1032] What did you guys get mad at each other for?

[1033] I got a little mad at him because I went to shake his hand somewhere and he kind of, before he was M &M, who he is now Elvis, you know, as big as Elvis type character.

[1034] This was like when he was first coming in and I just went to shake his hand and he kind of, I felt disrespected, found out later that, you know, he didn't really see it the same way.

[1035] He didn't realize it was that kind of situation after the fact.

[1036] Like I said, we haven't had a problem for 10 years.

[1037] Right.

[1038] So it was a short little thing of like words, words, words.

[1039] Yeah.

[1040] And then it was like, you know, just, you know, You know, just became like, all right, well, you know, you don't talk about me. I won't talk about you, and we'll just keep it at that.

[1041] One of the things I've found, and it's pretty easy to grab upon this, is that whenever you're around anybody who's really creative or really out there, really, like, dynamic in the way they perform, they're also almost always very emotional, you know, and some of them have a good handle on it, like you, you know, you're always a pretty relaxed, mellow, in a certain groove dude.

[1042] You're never like, I've been around you a bunch of times.

[1043] I've never seen you, like, agitated, never seen you, like, stress in about anything.

[1044] You're always, you know, you maintain a certain pace.

[1045] Some people really just can't do that.

[1046] You know, for me, it's like also, I'm not, there's no show.

[1047] I told you, I said it early in the show.

[1048] I've been faking it for years, man. I'm just trying to figure, I'm making music.

[1049] I don't even know how to make music.

[1050] I don't even know, you know, you know, all this is luck and icing, and as much as I feel like, yo, it's what I'm meant to do.

[1051] You know, I feel like it to a degree.

[1052] It's what it's meant to do.

[1053] dude, it's a lot of luck, dude.

[1054] How many guys do you know that you feel personally are as smart as you and as talented as you that for one reason or another without being like they didn't get convicted of rape or nothing stupid like that?

[1055] But it just something doesn't click.

[1056] Like something doesn't happen for them.

[1057] And it's like I got a bunch of musician friends of mine that are geniuses that I'm just like, why, you know, what is it about them?

[1058] Why?

[1059] And that element is whatever that planet's lining up that just you're at the right place, right time and you know how to react you know what i mean it's i agree to we all we all are responsible for our fates i believe i made a choice somewhere along the line that contributed to what i'm doing it's not just blind luck but there's there's that's that's an element in the in the thing you could have all the other things the talent the the drive the work uh ethic and if that