#1132 - Kyle Kingsbury

[0] When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space.

[1] We must have American dominance in space, so important.

[2] Very importantly, I'm here by directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch.

[3] of the armed forces.

[4] That's a big statement.

[5] We are going to have the Air Force, and we are going to have the space force, separate but equal.

[6] It is going to be something so important.

[7] General Dunford, if you would carry that assignment out, I would be very greatly honest.

[8] Look at Mike Pence.

[9] Mike Pence has this look on his face like, I'm going to be the president.

[10] He's like, this motherfucker's gone completely crazy And I'm going to be the president next That's his not of approval Look at his face He's got the face of a guy who knows He's going to be the president Like if you were about to be awarded something Like if there was some Something you were about to get And you're like wow I worked my whole life for this And here it is I'm going to get that thing right now I'm going to be the fucking president He must be like This guy is never going to last eight years, and for sure he's going to win again, I'm going to be the president.

[11] So you think for sure he wins again because, is that because whoever the Democrats decide to put in is going to be an equal turd sandwich again?

[12] You're a super smart dude, but you're also a brute, you're a big giant savage motherfucker, right?

[13] So how many people have underestimated you because you're a big giant savage motherfucker and talk stupid to you and act like you were a moron.

[14] I'd say equal street fights, two fights in the UFC.

[15] Yeah.

[16] There's a lot of people, right?

[17] And just people in general, like they'll get snotty.

[18] I don't take Stevie.

[19] I'm trying to like my men.

[20] But I think there's a certain part of us that might be doing that with him.

[21] I don't think he is, I think he's really good at winning.

[22] this is this is not a not a like an endorsement of him um no caveats necessary i'm horrified by this immigration policy of separating children from their parents i think that's subhuman his wife came out and said that was bullshit right his wife's an immigrant bro his wife barely speaks english it's chaos right it's crazy i hate i hate all that stuff these are just families they're just people who love each other you got to keep them together if they break the law you keep them together Get them out of here if you want.

[23] I mean, if you want to send them back to wherever they came from, if you're hellbound on that.

[24] But taking them from their kids is subhuman.

[25] I mean, it's beyond it.

[26] It's not us.

[27] It's not what we're doing in 2018.

[28] That aside, all that aside.

[29] He's probably going to fucking win again, man. I think he's probably going to win again.

[30] I think he gets in these confrontations with people, and they think he's adult.

[31] And I don't think he's adult.

[32] I think there's no way he could be as successful as he's been.

[33] I know he's had ups and downs and shit like that, but like, what he, just the way he was able to dismantle all those guys and those Republican debates.

[34] He tore him the fuck apart.

[35] He tore him apart.

[36] They had no business.

[37] They had no business doing that with him.

[38] They just were too emotionally tied up in his responses.

[39] There was so much negativity and energy.

[40] It was like, uh, there's all this anxiety.

[41] Like a fight where a guy's in full panic.

[42] Like, you know, you've seen like street fights, especially, guys just go in a full panic.

[43] Or even just talking shit in the school yard.

[44] You know, like, one guy's getting bullied, bullies got the crowd watching him, and the other guy's like, well, but you're, you're, fuck you, man. You know, and everybody's like, oh, that ain't going to work.

[45] You know, that's kind of, that's what the rest of them look like.

[46] Ted Cruz, that's what they all looked like.

[47] He's just been doing this his whole life.

[48] He's been talking shit his whole life.

[49] You know?

[50] And he's got a lot of fucking supporters.

[51] And if the economy keeps doing good, man, it's going to be a hard sell to put some guy in there like Bernie Sanders who, you know, all the right -wing people think just wants to give away all your money.

[52] Give away all your money to welfare brats.

[53] Even the left was protecting against that.

[54] Yeah.

[55] Because there's still money.

[56] Money on the left.

[57] I should point out, I know jack shit about politics.

[58] This is very important to point out.

[59] Anybody that ever says you shouldn't be talking about politics, that's crazy because anybody should be able to talk about whatever they want.

[60] but what I shouldn't do is give anybody the impression that I know what I'm talking about because I definitely don't like if you had to get me to explain to you how Congress and the Senate works and how long the terms are and what's what's the cat you know what they have to do that'd be a sloppy ass fucking conversation right I'm no political expert you know like Mike Pence is no MMA expert you know what I mean like he probably could tell you who Connor McGregor is you know like that's probably like we have equal knowledge and government.

[61] But still, he might win.

[62] Just in terms of like games.

[63] He definitely could.

[64] Yeah.

[65] It's a game.

[66] He definitely could.

[67] Look, what is it?

[68] It's a fucking game.

[69] It's a very high stakes, gigantic game where you're trying to win a popularity contest.

[70] He won.

[71] What do you think of the rock potentially becoming president one day?

[72] That shit was, that shit blew up.

[73] And I was like, wait a minute now.

[74] If you look at the current state, and it is a popularity contest, and we want somebody who who can literally rock the mic, has the gift of gab.

[75] Yeah.

[76] But then you also have somebody who's doing a meditarian shit is as famous as fucking anyone has ever been, highest paid dude in Hollywood.

[77] He's so nice, too.

[78] Yeah.

[79] You look at that guy in your life, you don't question his character.

[80] No, he's a sweetheart.

[81] Yeah, he's a sweetheart.

[82] You meet him in real life.

[83] He's like that, too.

[84] Oh, he's a big motherfucker.

[85] Big giant motherfucker.

[86] I think he could do it.

[87] He could win.

[88] He could win, especially if he has Oprah's his VP.

[89] And I'm not even fucking around.

[90] Not saying it's a good idea, folks.

[91] Not what I'm saying.

[92] I'm just saying.

[93] You don't think that the Rock and Oprah could win?

[94] But who would be women would get super pissed off if the Rock was the president and Oprah was VP?

[95] Oprah would have to say, look, I'm busy.

[96] She's potentially next in line.

[97] That's not a bad thing.

[98] She's Mike Pence, nodding an approval.

[99] But she want a lot of people would want her to be president, Oprah to be the first female president, to counter, like the first celebrity president being Trump.

[100] Oprah counters that with the first female celebrity president.

[101] See, that's a big win.

[102] Would the Rock be VP in that situation?

[103] It's tough to get the Rock to take a fucking back seat.

[104] Yeah, I don't know about that.

[105] I don't know about that.

[106] The Rock is, he's the Rock.

[107] It's tough to get him to take a back seat.

[108] It would be fascinating to see what happens next.

[109] that's what's going to be I mean how we're going to try to play this out how people are going to play this out the popularity contest aspect of it because it's just okay if it really devolves into that you know it's like and here's it the other thing how much of his regulations are helping well and what and what do we do now that has really fucked up maybe permanent consequences to the earth that's true too right but what what stuff has have they implemented other than I know they did offshore drilling right that concerned a lot of people and it was explained better to me about the the monuments and the private land I've read a bunch of different and public land rather I've read a bunch of different takes on that and essentially what they did is bring it back to where it was before the Obama administration changed it so it was it was listed a certain way.

[110] And then when the Obama administration changed it, they felt that was an overstep.

[111] I don't know why.

[112] And it doesn't seem to be, they haven't started any like mineral drills or oil drills or anything in these areas.

[113] I don't know what they're doing.

[114] I don't know if they're really just trying to deregulate things more.

[115] They feel like the government overstepped their boundaries or if they really have nefarious ideas.

[116] They're trying to like figure out a way to get some oil out of a salmon river.

[117] Time will tell.

[118] Yeah, man. I mean, there was that one place, we've discussed it before, up in Alaska where a lot of people were concerned that there was going to be some drilling that takes place near where salmon live, like, close enough that if it fucked up, it could destroy this river.

[119] When it fucks up.

[120] That's probably the best way to say it, right?

[121] Because if we don't do anything about it, say if you put a pipeline in the earth and you pump oil through it and we don't do anything we just leave it there just leave it there and we don't you know we don't visit it for 5 ,000 years what's that going to be like so what does that mean it means you got to keep fixing it okay so you put a hole you put a giant tube through the earth and you're pumping toxic ooze out of this tube and sometimes it gets into rivers and it fucking kills everything and there's you want to run this fucking you want to run this tube under the river?

[122] Okay.

[123] And then what are you going to do?

[124] Like, how many every year, every five years?

[125] How long, how often are you checking?

[126] And when do you replace shit?

[127] How long do those tubes last?

[128] I don't know.

[129] They got to check it out.

[130] I almost got into that.

[131] What happens if there's an earthquake?

[132] And those tubes break?

[133] Fuck City.

[134] What?

[135] How does that work?

[136] I don't know.

[137] Jack, shit about how they pump the oil out.

[138] Do you?

[139] What were you going to say?

[140] Well, it's, I mean, it's a weird thing if we know for sure they're going to one day break.

[141] Like, we're making a toxic pipeline.

[142] We know for sure it's going to, the Earth's going to just absorb it, right?

[143] Everything fucking erodes.

[144] Yeah, everything.

[145] Have you seen them show like a five -year depiction of what would happen to our bridges if we stopped painting?

[146] Yeah, I have.

[147] Yeah, it looks like it happens overnight.

[148] Wasn't there a show about this called Life After Humans or something like that?

[149] Yeah.

[150] Was that on, like, Nat Geo or something like that?

[151] discovery something like that something like that yeah there's a bunch of spots particularly look at southern california deadliest quake may have been caused by oil drilling oh jesus christ 1933 does oklahoma now have a ton of earthquakes from fracking yeah but how could they know this because earthquakes happen out here i wonder how they know this hmm the study written by two leading u .s geological surveys scientist in pasadena shout out to pasadena and be published in the Bulletin of Seismic Society of America on Tuesday also suggests that three other earthquakes, including magnitude 5 .0 earthquakes in 1920, and Inglewood and 1929 in Whittier, may have also been linked to oil drilling.

[152] Whoa.

[153] I don't know.

[154] Maybe.

[155] Maybe we live in California.

[156] Right?

[157] Both, maybe both.

[158] Maybe it gave a little bump, but it was happening anyway.

[159] The fuck knows.

[160] But it is, it's weird.

[161] That's a weird one.

[162] The weirdest one for sure is nuclear power plants.

[163] That's the weirdest one, because they can't shut him off.

[164] When you had Shane Smith on, he was talking about that kid that made a nuclear reactor in his garage.

[165] Yeah.

[166] At like 17 years old.

[167] I think he's like 22 now or 23.

[168] Works for the government.

[169] What did they do?

[170] They tracked him by the materials that he was purchasing?

[171] Well, he shut down a fucking city block when he turned.

[172] But he was doing like fusion.

[173] He could do, what was that?

[174] He could refine uranium.

[175] Oh, Jesus.

[176] Like he knew how to fucking mine it, get all the materials.

[177] And he's 17?

[178] That was at 17.

[179] He's 22 now or 23.

[180] That's insane.

[181] But he can take the used reactors and basically like a handheld battery like you'd have on an RC car that can power an entire city for 10 ,000 years, each one of those.

[182] What?

[183] That's what Smith was saying.

[184] That's not for me. I know.

[185] I'm saying, though, that's what Shane Smith was saying.

[186] This guy has that technology.

[187] And of course, you know, to get a little Eddie Bravo -ish, you know, there's big companies that don't want to see that happen, but he's supported by Elon Musk and another other big -time dudes that want to see it happen.

[188] Well, here would be the thing.

[189] I don't know if once those nuclear reactors get up and running, like the old -style ones, like Fukushima, I don't know if they have, like, a way to shut those down.

[190] You know, I think they need, ironically enough, I think they need power to shut them down.

[191] Wasn't that like a big part of the problem with Fukushima?

[192] But they couldn't cool it?

[193] They couldn't keep it cool.

[194] Dude, they can't shut them off.

[195] Like, that is the crazy, they've only had them for, if you stop and think about the amount of time humans have been alive.

[196] It's only been like 50 years, 60 years since, like, nuclear powers everywhere.

[197] Like, what has it been in the year?

[198] The bomb was dropped in, what was that, 45?

[199] Is that in 1945?

[200] I don't know, before my time.

[201] When did you think the bomb was dropped?

[202] Was it 45?

[203] Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

[204] I think that's right, but I was looking up that they shut down power plants in Florida when the hurricane went through last year.

[205] Nuclear power plants?

[206] Yeah, I think new ones they can.

[207] I don't think they could shut down the Fukushima one, or I think that it was just damaged by the water so badly that whatever their shut down thing didn't work.

[208] But there's no like, there's no way to shut it down now.

[209] Now it's the fucking total meltdown disaster.

[210] I mean, they've tried to come up with all sorts of ways to store this shit.

[211] I think one of them was dig a giant hole, pour all the waste in there, and keep it frozen.

[212] That doesn't sound good.

[213] That sounds like a really bad idea.

[214] They were going to put it in like this giant vat and they were going to have this vat like super cooled to some like ridiculous low degree and do something.

[215] Correct me if I'm wrong.

[216] This sounds like I'm making this up.

[217] I bet Paul Stammerz could come up with a way to fix that.

[218] How would you fix that?

[219] mushrooms eat all the nuclear waste?

[220] Dude, he did that.

[221] He had the TED Talk, six ways mushrooms will save the world.

[222] And was that one of his?

[223] One of them was oyster mushrooms eating away oil spills.

[224] So he fucking has like three giant vats of toxic waste.

[225] I wouldn't say toxic.

[226] Like garbage.

[227] And they're all coated in oil.

[228] And he does different things to two of them.

[229] And then on the third one, he puts oyster mushroom spores in there.

[230] And they cover them.

[231] And the other two just stink to fucking hell.

[232] Like they get worse.

[233] over time.

[234] The oyster mushrooms grow and they grow black as the oil starts to be absorbed by them.

[235] Then they break down every single carbon in the oil until eventually the oyster mushroom becomes white again and it's fucking edible.

[236] What?

[237] Completely breaks it down.

[238] And these are giant oyster mushrooms, like just fucking massive.

[239] Dude, you're going to get BP cocky?

[240] They're going to get cocky.

[241] Like, look, we spell it.

[242] We got some fucking mushrooms.

[243] We're good, dude.

[244] We're good, dude.

[245] Give us three months.

[246] Damn, could you imagine a giant oil spill out in the ocean and then these scientists drop like billions of spores?

[247] What is this?

[248] I don't know that they might not work in the ocean.

[249] But could you imagine if they did do it and it did work and you see these fucking building -sized mushrooms just suck an oil out of the ocean?

[250] That'd be awesome.

[251] It would be crazy.

[252] And then they turn white and they become edible.

[253] And they just got to figure out how to do that with psilocybin and we're gold.

[254] Wow.

[255] Yeah.

[256] Oh, that would be an easy fix to find some way to blend the two of them together.

[257] Don't crossbreed?

[258] Could they do that?

[259] I know they do that with plants, right?

[260] They got to be able to do that.

[261] How do they do that with plants?

[262] Because, you know, someone told me that blew me away that there was, they were making pistachio trees and they were binding them somehow or another to avocado trees.

[263] and they were making them, like, grow together to make, like, a sturdier branch structure.

[264] And I went, what?

[265] You can do that?

[266] You can mix trees?

[267] I know here they have mixed trees, but they're from the same, like, phylum.

[268] I don't know if that's right.

[269] They're close enough genetically related, but you'd have, like, one base of the tree that has the roots, and then different branches on that tree grow different fruit.

[270] Wow.

[271] And you can have four different fruit styles on one tree, like peaches.

[272] plums, apricots, all from one tree.

[273] Wow, dude.

[274] I had no idea.

[275] You can buy that shit at Costco.

[276] I believe you.

[277] I had no idea, though.

[278] I would have assumed that, I would assume that, like, a tomato has to be in a tomato tree.

[279] You know, you can't splice a tomato tree to an apple tree.

[280] Tomato might not work, but as far as fruit trees.

[281] It would be cool, though, to do that.

[282] Maybe you could do that with tomatoes.

[283] Maybe you could have beef steak on one side and cherry on the other.

[284] Yeah, right.

[285] possible.

[286] Like have it all mixed up together.

[287] Yeah, it's just what a strange life form plants are.

[288] You know, they're a bizarre compared to us.

[289] This thing that lives alongside of us.

[290] Cleans our air for us?

[291] Cleans our air.

[292] Like New York without Central Park would be so much grosser probably, right?

[293] Yeah, 100%.

[294] Have to be.

[295] Like all the carbon in the air, carbon dioxide.

[296] All the fucking, just all the people breathing.

[297] Everyone around you, there's so many people.

[298] Everyone just breathing, you know?

[299] You're in like a soup of people breathing on the subway and in buildings and, you know, people are so jammed next to each other where they're walking by.

[300] They're just breathing each other's air.

[301] That is such a weird way that people have decided to live.

[302] Yeah, it is weird.

[303] We were just out there for product development with on it.

[304] I get to go out to different conferences and shit.

[305] So we went out to Sycoccus, New Jersey.

[306] and they're like a giant supplement conference where they have it's basically like people that do the science they figure out something really cool but they're not big enough name to take it to the masses so we come in along with other companies we look for different things that are backed by science piece it all together and create something new so we're doing that by day and then we head over to New York by night and it was cool but it was like it's a fucking madhouse it's absolutely insane to think that people live on that tiny little island they love it yeah it definitely buzzes it's got it's got its own fucking energy for sure for sure for sure and it's a little hostile there's a hostility to that the comedy there is uh it's it's it sort of exemplifies that new york comedy's always been some of the best comedy in the country like always it's always been some of the best comics come out in new york and a lot of them are like super hyper aggressive like a lot of them like real insolving salt comedians like that kind of you know that style of shitting on each other it's like they're they're aggressively liked that but it's like patrice o 'neo was probably like the best at it he was so fucking good he was so fucking good but he exemplifies that new york style what the fuck are you wearing man what the fuck is that shirt and then it would just be attack and it was beautiful it was beautiful and it was but it was fun it was all like in good fun and playful and but that new york style is it's like a harder style like a more aggressive style yeah even families talk to each other differently there yeah yeah yeah more shit talking well you know I've tried to figure this out myself because my grandparents were immigrants but I figured the way I was thinking it is like if you really thought about the kind of people that were taking a chance to come across the ocean and get here in like 1920 like these were wild desperate people like this was a different kind of human they were they're a wilder type of human being and then to go from that wild type of human being to like a regular person in 2018 it's only been a couple of generations those places is where the people stayed so the people landed there first and then all the all the Polish and the Jewish and the Italian and the Puerto Ricans and all these different different fucking ethnic groups just piled in together just buzzing and A lot of people went, let's go west.

[307] Let's fucking go west.

[308] And they landed over here.

[309] And this is why California is like quite a bit more mellow, you know, quite a bit more laid back.

[310] And even the comedy, the comedians are more friendly.

[311] It's not like, but there is a great roast battle scene up here, too.

[312] They do those roast battle shows.

[313] Those things are pretty goddamn good.

[314] I love the roasts.

[315] They get nasty with each other.

[316] You guys sit in the back of the comedy store and talk shit, right?

[317] Yeah, we talk shit to each other, but it's fun, it's practice.

[318] It's like we're making other comedians laugh.

[319] That would be awesome, though, to be a fly on the wall watching a bunch of comedians, just talk shit to each other, not even worried about other people, not trying to make anybody laugh but themselves.

[320] We all talk shit unless Joey's around.

[321] Then when Joey's around, just try to get them riled up.

[322] When Joey's around, my main goal is try to get them angry about something, and just hear them go off.

[323] And that's when the magic happens.

[324] It's got to be something.

[325] You've got to bring up some fucking band he doesn't like or some food that's bullshit.

[326] And next thing you know, he's throwing his arms back and he's fucking full.

[327] Somebody orders the ranch sauce with their salad?

[328] Yeah.

[329] With chicken wings.

[330] Just that one statement, it's blue cheese with wings or go fuck your mother.

[331] And it's just the way he says it too.

[332] So when we're in the back and Joey's back there, we just let Joey rant.

[333] We just try to get him riled up.

[334] I mean, we'll have conversations with him.

[335] It just wants to have a conversation.

[336] But half the time, it's like a game of, you know, you're hanging around with the funniest guy ever.

[337] If you get that guy to laugh and get that guy to make everybody laugh.

[338] Just fucking poking pride.

[339] Yeah, just have fun with him.

[340] But he would always do that.

[341] Like, no one could figure that out.

[342] We'd do these gigs in the road.

[343] And right before Joey would go on stage, he'd get mad at us.

[344] He'd get mad at him for whatever reason.

[345] He goes, you guys, with this fucking laptop and this.

[346] bullshit in the fucking green room.

[347] It's the fucking green room.

[348] Let the green room be the green room.

[349] What are you going to do?

[350] You're going to do it?

[351] And he would go into this thing.

[352] Like how deep you're going to get into this fucking internet life?

[353] Let these fucking people behind the scenes would just go off.

[354] And they were like, why is Joey so mad?

[355] He's getting fired up to go on stage.

[356] That's what he does.

[357] Comes back, he's not mad at you.

[358] He just decides like, this is what it's going to be.

[359] Yeah, some poor bastards.

[360] Like, I'm just trying to do some emails.

[361] I'm just streaming on YouTube.

[362] What's his deal?

[363] What the fuck is this streaming?

[364] What the fuck is it?

[365] What the fuck are these kids doing?

[366] What they're fucking streaming?

[367] And the next thing you know, boom, bang, everybody's on the floor.

[368] Dying laughing.

[369] He would get fired up and then you'd go on stage already at 10, you know?

[370] It's a really smart thing.

[371] Just get mad, just get annoyed right before you go on stage.

[372] Just get annoyed at anything.

[373] What kind of fucking mustard is this?

[374] What kind of, Joe Rogan?

[375] What kind of fucking mustard is this?

[376] Back in Jersey, they had the mustards with the seeds.

[377] That fucking brown dirty mustard It looked like it came out of someone's asshole And he would just Whatever it was He would just start ranting about it And get angry And then he would go on stage like at 10 So it could be anything man It could be a fucking TV show That's a honey doesn't like It could be the pair of sneakers you're wearing Could be I don't like the way you're doing your notes He'll just to say He yelled at me once for having a notebook I came to the improv And he was what are you doing with the fucking notebook And I go, that's why I keep my notes.

[378] And he's like, well, do you want everybody to know you're writing?

[379] Carry this fucking notebook around.

[380] You're doing it to show the world that you take your job serious.

[381] Some people do.

[382] But, I mean, that's better than not doing it.

[383] You know, even if you're like fake, even if you're writing to fake that you're writing all the time, that's definitely better than not writing.

[384] Carry that notebook, man. Encourage notebooks.

[385] I'm all, I'm pro notebook.

[386] You guys got the notepad right here.

[387] Dude, you got to write shit down I don't look at 90 % of it There's a lot of stuff in here That I have no idea What the fuck I wrote But occasionally I feel like one day I'm gonna get it I'm gonna be I'm gonna wise up And I'm gonna go in here And I'm gonna go over these notes And something's gonna make some sense But nope All looks like nonsense Chicken Scratch A nonsense Page after page of it Kyle Kingsbury Do you take notes Like life notes Yeah, kind of.

[388] I mean, I have two journals that I use for psychedelic ceremony, shit like that.

[389] And then my desk is, it's kind of a fucking joke.

[390] I mean, it's just covered in post -its.

[391] And I'll just jot shit down on who I'm going to have on the podcast or the supplement that I want to try.

[392] What dose that I tried it at?

[393] That kind of shit, since I'm kind of the office guinea pig.

[394] Just any bullshit, but they're fucking everywhere.

[395] Have you ever had an adverse reaction as an office guinea pig?

[396] French it out many, many times.

[397] I was at a meeting with Aubrey, and I forget the guys that were there.

[398] But there was some bigwig guys.

[399] And, you know, I show up and he's like, hey, you're doing all right?

[400] And I was like, uh, no, no, not doing good.

[401] And I had taken this form of berberine that lowers blood sugar.

[402] It kind of works like metformin.

[403] Dr. Peter Attias talked about that before in your show.

[404] And I'm supposed to help with ketone production and just, inflammation, all that good shit.

[405] But I took way too much.

[406] I kind of eyeballed it.

[407] Just I got cocky.

[408] You eyeballed?

[409] I got cocky.

[410] Yeah, I probably had three times a dose.

[411] And it just fucking sunk me. And I'm like, I'm already in ketosis.

[412] I should be fine.

[413] And I went pale as a ghost.

[414] And he's like, what?

[415] I just got a couch in his office.

[416] He said, want to just lay on the couch for a minute.

[417] You know, so I lay down there fucking full body sweat.

[418] It got worse.

[419] And I just listened.

[420] And I was like, uh, yeah, kind of close to fucking throwing up.

[421] But, uh, and that's like, one of probably 10.

[422] How can you eyeball things?

[423] You're a smart guy.

[424] That's true.

[425] Well, I've shit my pants from eyeball on MCT oil on multiple occasions.

[426] We talked about that last podcast.

[427] Dudes got so mad.

[428] Yeah, I'll try your diet and shit my fucking pants.

[429] People are so mad.

[430] You can do a keto diet and not take MCT oil.

[431] You don't have to.

[432] Or you can do it intelligently and fucking measure your dose and not get ballsy, you know?

[433] But if you're in the average human being, let's just say you're an intelligent, let's be super honest about this, if you're an intelligent, healthy person that eats a reasonably balanced diet, you still have a 1 % chance of shitting your pants every day.

[434] You think it's that high?

[435] No. Because that's one day out of every hundred.

[436] I know.

[437] That's like three times a year.

[438] I don't share my pants three times a year.

[439] No, I have to revise my numbers.

[440] Maybe one tenth of one percent, one in a thousand?

[441] One in a thousand days.

[442] So if it's one in a thousand, like one in three years, you've got to, there's a likelihood.

[443] I think I'm living right if I shit my pants once every three years.

[444] Good for you.

[445] Yeah.

[446] I'm glad you said that, not me. Yeah.

[447] If I don't push the envelope and in one direction or another.

[448] Yeah, exactly.

[449] Yeah.

[450] I'm not playing it safe.

[451] Nope, not playing it safe.

[452] That's odd.

[453] Yeah, it's weird that certain foods that are good for you will also make you shit your pants if you do it wrong.

[454] It's like your body wants this real nice balance I want a real nice balance of nutrients Don't get fucking crazy with this stuff Come on Don't get crazy with that What's all this oil?

[455] What's all this?

[456] Oh, you want diarrhea?

[457] You want diarrhea, motherfucker?

[458] Wow Your body just says, I'm not dealing with this Let's just flush it out The problem is that you think it's a fart And you should know better, you know?

[459] It's like, oh, that feels like air.

[460] We're good to let this out And then it's full underwear.

[461] Not good.

[462] Good.

[463] Then you've got to drive home with your hips off the seat the whole way.

[464] It's good.

[465] Exercise dough for your lower pelvic.

[466] Mm -hmm.

[467] Activate, loosen up the front side.

[468] Male kegles.

[469] You're kind of doing a keegel holding it back.

[470] Yeah, you are, definitely.

[471] Yeah.

[472] Just staying puckered for an extended period of time.

[473] Like, women to do that competitively, do you know that there's, like, competitions?

[474] Where they hold, like, they can carry with the vaginas?

[475] Yeah.

[476] Those are some dedicated people.

[477] Like, I would imagine most girls are, like, are, like, Like, vagina is great by itself.

[478] You don't really have to squeeze it until it becomes some muscular...

[479] You can't, though.

[480] You can.

[481] You can.

[482] Just like training the brain.

[483] You can, but how many people do it?

[484] I would like to know.

[485] I believe if there was an anonymous thing where women can answer...

[486] I bet that's 1%.

[487] How many of them squeeze their pussy all the time and just do exercise?

[488] I was like...

[489] Look at this girl.

[490] She's got some stuff up or punana, and then she's carrying weights around.

[491] and she's doing yoga.

[492] Record -setting vaginal weightlifter.

[493] What's wrong with the pants?

[494] Well, there's a hole in the middle of it where that rope goes through.

[495] That's one thing.

[496] That's a rough -looking rope, too, man. That's like a rope that you would tie like a dog to a tree with.

[497] That's not like a silk rope.

[498] That's a fucking rope, man. She's not bad.

[499] I don't, I really, don't like the pants.

[500] This is crazy.

[501] It's nice that she's moving through different positions.

[502] You know, she's not just standing there, hitting Cheong with it in there.

[503] She's actually, she's working it.

[504] This is the sexual equivalent to you taking that overdose of those pills or of that that shit you take?

[505] The powder.

[506] The sexual equivalent is exactly the sexual equivalent.

[507] Because you don't want to get jerked off by the Hulk.

[508] Okay.

[509] I don't know.

[510] You know what I'm saying?

[511] You can't knock it until you've tried it.

[512] I would just imagine.

[513] I would enter that.

[514] and roll the dice and see how strong that is.

[515] What if she grabs it like your fist?

[516] And you're like, oh, Jesus.

[517] She's like Pimei when he takes the arm.

[518] Do you want your cock back?

[519] Your cock belongs to me now.

[520] Grabbs it like it hurts.

[521] Like, hey, hey.

[522] Well, it's still going to be wet, right?

[523] Hopefully.

[524] Sure.

[525] Yeah.

[526] I mean, everything seems to be in working order.

[527] Yeah.

[528] Yeah.

[529] That's a weird thing to want to be able to do, too.

[530] Carry the most weight with your pussy.

[531] Yeah.

[532] You'd like to see, like, how did it go from that being a thought in your mind to one day I'll be the queen, one day I will carry the most way to, like, putting it on YouTube and figuring out a way to put it on YouTube where you have pants that have a hole in them.

[533] She started somewhere.

[534] Yeah.

[535] But I'm willing to bet that seed was planted early on in life, probably too early.

[536] Maybe.

[537] I don't know, man. Different strokes for different folks, right?

[538] If that's what you're into doing Some people play tennis Some people Some people are world record pussy weight holders It's just like What the fuck man Okay If dudes could grow their dicks for sure If there was an exercise That could grow your dick You've talked about that Aren't their tribes in Africa Where they hang shit from their They got a penis head piercing And they hang different weights from their cock Yeah there is some of that right Just stretch it out.

[539] And they'll do like, they do like dick games where they'll be semi hard and they kind of work those muscles on top of the cock to flex the weight up and down.

[540] Yeah, but if that was like as straightforward, so like the penis has to be erect in order for it to be hard.

[541] And if it's erect and hard, like it's not a muscle that you can work out.

[542] That's what I'm saying.

[543] Yeah.

[544] You know what I'm saying?

[545] It's more about just stretching it.

[546] Yeah.

[547] But if you had a weightlifting exercise for, of the dick like a bicep curl you know how big the fucking line at the gym would be if someone invented that no one would be waiting in line for the stair master right they would be waiting in line to get on that that dick building machine just all these dudes with their pants around their angles stuffed into a glory hole with some kind of weight on the other side but proportionately like what percentage of girls that lift weight go immediately to booty exercises is it a hundred It's got to be I mean Any kind of squat rack or anything crazy That's where you're going to find the girls That really want to put on that booty mass Right It's like a high percentage Do you think the dick Strengthener would make it shorter and fatter It would be dick strengthening gyms everywhere But would it turn you into a Coke can No I think it would It would have to be like you could grow it out Like you could actually create more tissue What is this what he's showing us i can't find the name of this movie you guys trying hanging uh like asian from his dick they got like all these cattle bells of it but hanging from his dick and the girl's like i can't believe this she starts eating a banana in a second oh what is the name of this movie i couldn't find the name it's got to be a parody but she's got to keep him hard there's like there's a black guy looking at i'm like what the fuck are he coming up right there damn the keep stacking kettlebells on his dick.

[548] But if there was something like that, like something like a glute ham machine, you know, something that just targeted the dick.

[549] You should talk to Rogue.

[550] I don't think it's going to work.

[551] You'd have one in here.

[552] Probably would.

[553] Start playing with prototypes.

[554] Fucking a hundred people are going to send you one.

[555] If anybody's going to figure it out, it's going to be Ben Greenfield.

[556] It's probably going to be some fucking...

[557] Well, you know, I had him on its podcast after he was on yours the first time.

[558] And I was like, you know, what do you want to talk about?

[559] And we're in the sonnet on it.

[560] And I'm like, I want to talk stem cells.

[561] And he's like, listen, no more dick stem cell talk.

[562] I was like, why?

[563] I was like, you're fucking dead on Roggers.

[564] He goes, no, I don't want to be known as the dick stem cell guy.

[565] Too late.

[566] And I was like, well, yeah, he went on the wrong show.

[567] But, you know, we still talk stem cells.

[568] And obviously, you know, we were chatting before the show.

[569] It's fucking rad.

[570] It's very cool.

[571] We got to talk about the intravenous stem cells that he did.

[572] Oh, Jamie showing me some more dudes.

[573] tying weights to the end of their dicks.

[574] It's on YouTube.

[575] Oh, God, Jamie, this is not good.

[576] Oh, come on, sir.

[577] Oh, that's at the base of his cock, and he was holding on to the shaft while he was picking it up.

[578] And then he gets up, and he, like, gives blessings to everybody.

[579] Blessings, I carried the large walk with my cock.

[580] Like, that's the weirdest part of that video.

[581] He held that win, like, Fador.

[582] After it's over.

[583] No expression on the face.

[584] Just, like, yeah, I know what I can do.

[585] It is the weirdest way.

[586] to pick up a rock with your dick and then end it.

[587] What?

[588] She gets up.

[589] It's like adding dirt to it or something too.

[590] Well, um, is that writing?

[591] Is that Indian?

[592] Is that Hindu?

[593] I think, yeah, I think.

[594] Hindi?

[595] Yeah, Hindu's the religion.

[596] Hindi's the writing.

[597] Is that what it is?

[598] Um, look how they just allowed to show as cock and balls.

[599] I think it's because it's, uh, like, because it's nature?

[600] It's a feat of strength.

[601] There was another video I did not pull up.

[602] That was direct like showing you how to do this kind of stuff with weights and...

[603] Kudos.

[604] to YouTube for allowing this.

[605] Look at this.

[606] He just grabbing the hunker at the very end.

[607] He's got the rope wrapped around the middle and Homeboy's just going to pick up this rock.

[608] He's got to widen that squat stance.

[609] Yeah.

[610] Look at this.

[611] Blessings.

[612] I have the cock of death.

[613] Blessings.

[614] He's got he's figured out a way to lift weights with his dick.

[615] Like he's actually doing it.

[616] And he seemed to be erect there.

[617] People seem to be there to see him too.

[618] Children are clapping.

[619] He's famous.

[620] He's the famous dickweight guy.

[621] Do you think he has pupils?

[622] Will he take on, what a great reality show that would be?

[623] He has to.

[624] He can't take that to the grave with him.

[625] Yeah, you have some dude who was born with a small penis, and you send him to this guy, to the master.

[626] To apprentice.

[627] And he just starts going through all the rituals, the stones and the dick and the sticks.

[628] There's got to be more to it.

[629] Oh, look at these guys.

[630] I've seen this.

[631] Jesus Christ.

[632] Using weights to enlarge your penis.

[633] They're swinging.

[634] Oh, Christ.

[635] That looks like 10 pounds.

[636] That looks like two, five -pound plates.

[637] Is that Bolo Chong from Bloodsport?

[638] Oh, that's a woman.

[639] Oh, wow.

[640] They're not moving their hips.

[641] They're not at all.

[642] They're using the dick there.

[643] They're using dick muscle.

[644] That is so crazy.

[645] So they have something tied to their dick.

[646] We can't see it because they have some sort of a skirt over it for people that are listening.

[647] It literally looks like a skirt.

[648] And then the rope is making this weight swing like a pendulum in between their legs.

[649] And they're not using their hips.

[650] They're doing it all with their dick muscles.

[651] Now they're practicing kicking in the balls.

[652] Very important to let a guy kick you in the balls.

[653] What?

[654] These guys blow testicles all the time, right?

[655] I know at least two or three guys that were kicked and blew out a testicle.

[656] In a fight?

[657] No, training, mostly.

[658] I heard of it in training.

[659] I mean, I'm sure it's probably happened in fights too, but definitely in training.

[660] one of one of the militage guys like a real promising kid had it happen to him I'm trying to place his name did it end his career I do not know God I really apologize for not remember his name I want to say Brian Foster Is that who it was?

[661] He hasn't fought in the UFC in a long time But in training he got he got kicked Kicked low and he didn't have a cup on It's like one more round one with that kind of deal I'll spar one more round fuck it And wham.

[662] I never understood that when guys wouldn't wear cups in sparring.

[663] So crazy.

[664] Don't roll the dice there.

[665] It's too risky.

[666] Did you ever wear a tie steel cup?

[667] Kane was big into that, but I didn't like that it went up your asshole.

[668] You know?

[669] That was like, oh, I don't know about that one.

[670] Plus they're smaller.

[671] You know, like they don't, like the American ones come out of ways.

[672] Oh, stop with the bragging, bro.

[673] No, no, no. I'm just saying, it looked like it'd be in a tight spot.

[674] That's all.

[675] Yeah, well, you can't make a cup for a 140 -pound tie guy and then make that same cut fit on gorillas like yourself.

[676] It's just, you need a bigger cup.

[677] You need bigger gloves.

[678] I like that there was a little bit of space.

[679] That's all I'm saying.

[680] Do you have, is it like that leather, thick padding around the edges of it?

[681] No. So like when it goes into you, it doesn't go in you, it's straight.

[682] Right.

[683] Yeah, it was like the rubber with a hard plastic.

[684] Like a baseball cup.

[685] A lot of guys liked those.

[686] There was this dude.

[687] Amir Renovardi, he was one of Boss Routin's protegees and he used to train with him at Eddie's place and he'd mount you and he had that fucking steel cup and it would be like he was crushing your sternum with his dick.

[688] It was uber uncomfortable.

[689] It was not fun.

[690] He was very good at that.

[691] He would get mount on you and just crush you down like you, it's like a natural leverage in arm bars as well.

[692] When you go over that steel cup, like you got a metal thing that you're bending someone's arm against.

[693] It's a big deal.

[694] It's a really big deal if you think about it.

[695] I mean, you would think like, wait a minute, even a regular arm bar, hold on, you're pulling his arm into your balls.

[696] Like, what the fuck?

[697] Yeah, you are.

[698] Your dick and balls are resting on someone's arm when you give them an arm bar.

[699] That is just a fact.

[700] If you don't like that fact, your goal, in fact, is to get your dick and balls to rest on this guy's arm.

[701] But you're not thinking about that.

[702] You're thinking of getting your hips down on them, getting that arm in between your legs, or getting an arm in between your arms, in your legs, extending your body.

[703] But if you have a steel cup there, you've got this crazy fulcrum.

[704] You get this weird leverage point.

[705] It's made out of metal.

[706] It's a fucking metal piece.

[707] So instead of having vulnerable balls, you have this thing.

[708] You know, you have like a lever.

[709] You could snap shit better.

[710] Mike Swick, pop my rib out, eight days before a fight with this cup.

[711] This one right here.

[712] Damn, it's still fucked up.

[713] Yeah, it reset that way.

[714] Wow.

[715] It's from those goddamn steel cups, right?

[716] Yeah, I mean, the Swicketeen, and just dug his cup was right under a rib, and I was dead tired.

[717] Last round of training of the entire fight camp and popped it out.

[718] I wonder how controversial.

[719] I'm so out of the loop when it comes to grappling, grappling competitions.

[720] I wonder how legal they are.

[721] I wonder if they're allowed to use them at all.

[722] I wish I was here.

[723] No, I don't think they get to use them.

[724] use cups of any sort of any sort yeah well that would be crazy i would want to wear a cup i've i've been smashed in the nuts before in training i don't think you get to i don't think it's allowed wow that's crazy yeah no cups at all because of that fulcrum point probably yeah yeah must be it's crazy that your dick would become an advantage like you know like that area instead of like being like one object changes what that is so it goes from being like a super vulnerable area to oh if i get you there you know even like north -south like can it had me in north -south and just fucking dig it into the side of my face oh jesus and i'm sure there's ball sweat there too but i mean really that yeah you got a metal bar driving in your face a real piece of metal and if you kick those fucking things you pay for it like if you kick those things and you slap it with your instep ah ah it's like you might as well be kicking a rock or kicking the bottom of someone's elbow Worse than young Jamie running down the mountain in his Vibrums.

[725] Yeah, young Jamie tried to go barefoot shoe running.

[726] Which one did you go?

[727] Did you get the Vivo barefoots?

[728] Yeah, the Vos, yeah.

[729] Super thin, super, super thin.

[730] Yeah, I got two different pairs of those.

[731] I got one that has like a lot of tread.

[732] That's like I got a good thick amount of tread.

[733] And then another one that has less.

[734] And the one that has less, like you could feel the difference when you run like these real slippery, steep slid.

[735] slopes I need something where I can dig in if I'm trying to like sprint up to the top of the hill I don't want to be worried about my footing I want to be able I'm tired at that point too I'm going all the way up this fucking hill I want to dig in do are they toe shoes or they have full coverage full coverage see I like that better for for running yeah you know you stub your toe on shit you can't watch where you have to like when I wear I like the vibrams I wear them all the time I don't have an endorsement with any of these people I don't have any kind of deals but the like about the vibes is for sure it feels like you're moving more with your pinkies like your pinky toes and the other toes they're they're like they're aware that they have a job whereas i feel like when i wear even barefoot shoes that have full coverage i feel like they're like they're lazy they're just along for the ride yeah we'll just take a break yeah we'll take a break but whereas i feel all that shit activated it might be just in my head but when i run with five finger shoes on a trail run with those things on i feel like my foot is moving just a wee bit more than even regular barefoot shoes something about having all those little fuckers free like that and they're feeling in dirt the way they're supposed to like they're they're they're moving together the same where your hands move together when you grapple you're fall on gravel or something like that your hand you know it moves together it's it's it's it's it's thinking of how to cushion blows and how to stop something that's coming your way and how to how to interact with with space whereas your foot is just kind of clubbing the ground all the time.

[736] I feel like with those shoes, the one thing I'm aware of is that the foot is acting like as all the little individual muscles are helping to push me around.

[737] You know?

[738] It's massive.

[739] I've noticed that on, I mean, I'll walk.

[740] You're wearing them right now.

[741] I wear them all the time.

[742] He's wearing it right now.

[743] No one's a motherfucker walks around with them.

[744] Yeah.

[745] Once I started walking them on a long -term basis, especially doing longer walks and jogs, like there's a clear -cut difference.

[746] Yeah.

[747] You have to be mindful of every fucking step you take.

[748] Yeah.

[749] Especially if they're thin or sold, you know.

[750] They make some thick -sold ones for trail running and whatnot.

[751] Yeah, I use those.

[752] I use those.

[753] The only time I use the really thin ones are at the gym.

[754] But, yeah, those are the ones I have, Jamie.

[755] You just got to watch out for, like, sharp rocks.

[756] And I don't have to watch out for sharp rocks in the other ones.

[757] Like, if I'm running and something's kind of funky and it's, I got to go, ooh, I don't want to land on that.

[758] I got to look.

[759] Yeah, you got to pay attention.

[760] Yeah.

[761] But with those other ones, I could just kind of hustle.

[762] and breathe but maybe that's not as good maybe it's better to do it that way you know maybe it engages your brain more forces you to think and make decisions while you're exhausted actually it might be better now that I'm thinking about it it might be like a better thing to do as a workout you're more present too you're not thinking about other bullshit it's kind of like you know when we're talking about archery or the cold bath or any of these things it dows you in but I think part of it for some people with running is like that getting into the zone thing that you do you know when you start getting a pace going and just get into that zone when you don't want to think about any other extraneous shit and if you're doing that and watching every step you take is there is it possible i'm just throwing this out there that would like inhibit you from getting into the zone because you'd have to be too conscious about every step you're taking maybe i mean i'm sure everyone's different right but for me when i do that i don't feel i feel i feel like like it draws me into the zone, right?

[763] Because if I can just run on a fucking treadmill, I'm not worried about where my feet go, that kind of thing.

[764] And then my mind will wander then, right?

[765] Because I don't have to pay attention.

[766] It'll start thinking about other shit, especially if it's an easy run.

[767] My mind will wander then.

[768] It's not dialed in because it doesn't have to be.

[769] Yeah.

[770] What kind of cardio machines do you use, if any?

[771] Well, one that I really like.

[772] I mean, all I can use right now, because my knee's fucked is the skierg.

[773] And I like that.

[774] Aubrey and I'll get on those and do some sprint work.

[775] You were saying you have a, What was it, MCL tear?

[776] No, torn meniscus.

[777] Yeah.

[778] Thankfully, no surgery required with that because of the placement.

[779] And so you got some stem cells on that?

[780] Yeah, we did stem cells.

[781] What did they do?

[782] Last week, we did umbilical stem cells, intranasal, IV, and in the knee.

[783] Jesus.

[784] With gutothion.

[785] Jesus.

[786] The knee didn't hurt.

[787] Like, I thought the fucking injection was going to hurt.

[788] Like, they were going to wiggle it in with some long -ass needle.

[789] But that wasn't bad.

[790] The pressure, once it goes.

[791] in that fucking hurt um stem cells fixed my left knee i was having problems with my left knee for years i had a ACL reconstruction on that knee and on that knee um they took some meniscus out as well it's always been a problem like whenever i'd work out real hard like uh two or three days in a row it was always sore like i'd walk around was just sore it was being and then i have to warm it up to get going one session with umbilical cord stem cells and then i gave it a long time off and I never had a problem with it again like it literally went away it's like one of those things where I had a problem now I don't have a problem anymore like hill running kicking the bag whatever I'm doing using that echo bike or the versatile climber anything I'm doing with my knees no problems yeah I'm crazy I'm just babing it now but we work with this guy Dr. Craig conover who did the stem cells he's been doing vitamin IVs at uh on it for us and he's a fucking savage we'll do like the NAD treatments that NAD stuff Greenfield was uh telling me is really really beneficial.

[792] It is legit as fuck.

[793] Tell me about it.

[794] It feels like we get it done an IV.

[795] What's the name stand for again?

[796] I think it's nicotinide, adenine, adenicine, adenicine, adenicine, adenicene, I don't know, nicotine, adenicine, adenicine, dynucleotide.

[797] There we go.

[798] Damn.

[799] Anyways, it's a fucking, it's basically food for the mitochondria.

[800] And you can influence that pathway through fasting, hot and cold therapy, high intensity intervals, different things like that.

[801] But just to get it mainlined, into your fucking body.

[802] It feels like someone's got their hand on your stomach and they're slowly turning it.

[803] It doesn't feel good.

[804] You fucking sweat.

[805] If people have nasal issues, they'll sneeze.

[806] Why does it feel like it's turning your stomach?

[807] Well, I think the idea is that because it influences mitochondrial biogenesis, it's going to kill off any old mitochondria that need to go.

[808] But you feel that in the gut, and then you get new ones.

[809] And over time, I mean, we front -load this four to eight days in a row.

[810] And by the end of the eight - my front load it every single day you do it for eight days what then you only need it like once a month or once every two weeks after that right little touchups after every single day yeah so every single day you're getting gut wrenched yeah but by the end of it you feel better so because you've gotten rid of most of the bad shit and again that's theory it's not i mean this is brand new stuff here we got be super careful with this let me let me say that this is this theory the science on rats is always like a weird thing to say but i'll tell you the the feeling the feeling is, is there's no fucking dot it works.

[811] I mean, anything that influences mitochondria influences everything.

[812] That's energy for your brain, cognitive function, heart, lungs, the whole nine.

[813] Greenfield was saying that he had the mitochondria, like when they, the telomere lengths, when they, you know, check his telomere lengths.

[814] Yeah.

[815] That his biological age was 20.

[816] So he went from, he went, he started, yeah, and listen to him.

[817] He had the tell years guy on, right?

[818] And that's, so I did the same test.

[819] And his biological age was 36 and his chronological age was 34.

[820] And I'm like, this motherfucker who was homeschooled K through 12 and is an Ironman triathlete is two years older biologically than chronologically.

[821] Where the fuck am I?

[822] I went to ASU, did all the bad drugs, get been hitting the head fucking countless times.

[823] It's got to be bad.

[824] So at 35 when I did mine, biological age of 41.

[825] And I'm like, fuck.

[826] So, but right after he did the systemic stem cells through the IV, that dropped him from 36 to 20 years old biologically.

[827] and and how many did he do how many sessions did he do i don't know i think it was just after the first one i know he's done him more and he did different stem cells so why you why are you guys doing it so many days in a row for the nade yeah well the idea of front loading you know they used to say that with creatine i think that's been debunked but there are certain substances especially with how they influence you can really ramp up and change the body dramatically and then after that you just need little touchups here and there but uh you know i the jury's what you feel like Would you feel like after it was with the NAD?

[828] Yeah.

[829] I was like, I know, I won't really be able to look at this like a quantified self.

[830] You know, I'm not going to be able to take numbers and shit.

[831] So what I did was I put myself for the meat grinder.

[832] I hadn't really been training a lot.

[833] And since, you know, working my first real nine to five kind of thing.

[834] And I'd trained twice a day, busted out the old altitude machine, was doing altitude every day, hot and cold.

[835] You know, we got the dual sonnet on it.

[836] I do the cold bath at home.

[837] And all during that process, because we got the little guy, I wasn't sleeping well.

[838] So put myself through all that.

[839] My fucking cardio went through the roof.

[840] I never got sick.

[841] I recovered well.

[842] So I knew it worked.

[843] And on top of that, you know, cognitive function, memory retention, everything was fucking scaling up a notch.

[844] And cardio.

[845] Yeah.

[846] Fuck yeah.

[847] Your cardio ramped up.

[848] Anything that influences mitochondria affects fucking all of it.

[849] That's ATP throughout your entire body.

[850] And it's brain, too.

[851] You know, people think of like, oh, all right, you know, that's one of the, one of the reasons they're looking at creatine right now is a new tropic.

[852] Because it influences ATP and every fucking thing in your body runs on ATP.

[853] Have they done studies on this yet?

[854] I think Greenfield might be a better got to ask, but I'm pretty certain that they've verified that creatine helps the brain now.

[855] Makes sense if it helps muscles.

[856] I mean, if it helps blood flow, I mean, I mean, there's got to be a bunch.

[857] of different things it's it's fucking cellular energy it's cellular energy that's all ATP is right so everything runs on that one thing and and you're good there whether you're in ketosis or you're eating carbohydrates it's all going back to ATP it's crazy it's crazy you could do that you could have someone inject something into you and all of a sudden you get this like this recharge state and then there's the debate okay is this healthy has it what's the long term well yeah and then and then all the shit you know it's funny because what the drawbacks.

[858] I have a certain amount of followers online.

[859] Then, you know, you go to a company like on it and you have, it's magnified, right?

[860] By 100, by a thousand, whatever.

[861] And, you know, anytime I post shit, because I'll do stuff online for like the biohack of the week or the life hack of the week.

[862] And sometimes it's just run of the mill, you know, go for a fucking farmer's walk with some weights in your hand.

[863] Or keep a kettlebell in your trunk and then you can always work out.

[864] Whatever.

[865] Or sometimes it's more technology based.

[866] And we get a lot of shit on anything technology based and of course the argument then is well i believe i can get everything i need from a good diet and good nutrition and movement and i don't need to inject shit to be healthy and it's like yeah but i like greenfield's model you know like you have one foot in ancestral living and one foot in the benefits of modern science yeah so why wouldn't i fuck with that i think that's a smart way to approach it i think we have a real problem and we always have uh as human beings being tribal and i'm on tribe natural i'm all natural bro you know i don't take i'm not into hormones I'm not you know I don't need my cell phone man I'd rather leave it alone and then we got tribe science who think that you know that science is going to figure everything out and nature ain't shit and yeah we're better than nature we're smarter than nature press forward and that's obviously the extremes of each end but people just tend to fucking do that man there was the most ridiculous video that I retweeted from barstool I think it was bar stool just find out who I retweeted it from so we give them credit on their Instagram but they was a was it barstool?

[867] it was a video at a baseball game and one side was saying right field sucks and the other side was singing left field sucks and they would yell it out on three here we go one two three right field sucks yeah and everybody got pumped up and the people over here like left field sucks people are so stupid they would just like they will the team that sat on the left side is the best.

[868] Like they, here it is.

[869] Play this.

[870] Is it a barstool?

[871] Yeah.

[872] Our barstool sports.

[873] Shout out to barstool sports on Instagram.

[874] Look at it.

[875] Now these guys are getting fired up.

[876] We're so thrilled.

[877] We're not going to take that.

[878] We're not going to take that.

[879] No. But I got to say, if I was there, I would enjoy every second of that, especially if I had a couple beers and a hot dog in me. I'd have been yelling it too.

[880] Yeah, man. I mean, that's what's fun, right?

[881] And they're all rooting for the same team, for the most part.

[882] Who knows?

[883] How do they do that?

[884] No, they don't fucking split the sides on a home game?

[885] Does anybody ever do that?

[886] No. They do that in soccer?

[887] It might happen.

[888] There might be a section, but there's still people all over the place.

[889] For both teams.

[890] Yeah.

[891] Yeah.

[892] So they're not rooting on the same team.

[893] But, like, conceivably, they could just go all.

[894] That would prove my point even further, though, because now you have both, you know, say it's Cubs and Giants.

[895] You've got Cubs fans and Giants fans sitting on the right field, both yelling to the left field, the left field sucks.

[896] Yeah.

[897] And Cubs and Giants fans on left field, both yelling it to right field.

[898] It's bringing people together, Joe Rogan.

[899] Through hate.

[900] Yeah.

[901] At least it's fake hate.

[902] You know, they don't really think those people suck.

[903] I mean, if you're all sat them down as individuals and said, what do you really think about these random people on the right?

[904] They're like, oh, they're just folks that are sitting over there watching the baseball game.

[905] Is this a parallel for politics?

[906] For life, my friend.

[907] For all of this life.

[908] Oh, probably, right?

[909] It's probably something to that.

[910] That might be also why Trump could win again.

[911] He can win again.

[912] Well, anybody that believes that he won't win again, they're the same people that believed he stood no chance at winning the first time.

[913] Dude, I took a photo of Jake Tapper on TV when the results were being read because he was doing one of them report things.

[914] And he had, through the entire election, he was like really very, very, very, very, very obviously in angst at the thought of this guy being president.

[915] And then when he finally became president, Jake Tapper's face, it's just like, it's so classic.

[916] It's one of those moments where you're like, Jesus Christ, like, I'm never going to forget that guy's face when Trump was elected because it was just like, what the fuck is this?

[917] It was just a crazy face.

[918] I mean, if everything works out.

[919] nobody dies, no extra people die because of Trump being president this will be a very fascinating time to study it would be a very fascinating time I think there's ever been a time like this man drug laws are relaxing all over the place they're pushing MDMA through maps is to get it to use for therapy for soldiers with PTSD and it works remarkably well it works better than fucking anything I've been able to guide a couple of those sessions couple's therapy sessions not the PTSD CSD sessions.

[920] What's it been like?

[921] Fucking incredible.

[922] I mean, I watched a breakup happen with that.

[923] And I've never seen people break up prior to that, so I don't really have the comparison.

[924] But just seeing it's hard opening medicine, you know?

[925] And I know that you haven't had great experiences with it in the past, but this pharmaceutical shit is a whole different animal.

[926] No, I didn't have a bad experience.

[927] I only had a bad experience with the come down.

[928] Yeah, there is no come down with the pharmaceutical.

[929] I mean, fucking zero.

[930] And I mean, I thought it diminishes your, um, your, your dopamine levels.

[931] I spoke to, I've spoken Rick Doblin about this twice.

[932] Serotonin levels.

[933] Yeah.

[934] And the thing is, you know, as with any, is I know it's not a true psychedelic, but with any psychedelic or, what is a true psychedelic?

[935] A true psychedelic, like Michael Polon say would be like a tryptamine based psychedelic, the classical psychedelics.

[936] You look at, um, hallucinations.

[937] Yeah.

[938] And you're, you're thinking of things like mushrooms, LSD, you know, Wachuma, peyote, ayahuasca, DMT, those kind of things would be more.

[939] traditional you know what man I would I would honestly say that I think in high doses edible marijuana is a psychedelic yeah yeah there's no doubt no doubt I really I mean I've heard people argue against that I'm like man I don't know I think in high doses when you're when you close your eyes and lie down like sit down on a couch on a high dose you're really really flying I've had visuals from fucking gorilla glue just smoking gorilla glue my wife and i both what do you mean gorilla glue it's a strain not actual glue yeah i was huffing glue with my wife i was like we experiment with anything this fucking podcast took a turn i was like Kyle Kingsbury's so savage he's out there smoking glue no what about the kids Kyle it's the name yeah i'm not going to be a good father um and you experience it's a straight fucking full blown full blown you know you can get them man if you get high enough.

[940] McKenna used to say that the way to do it was to not get high for long periods of time and then smoke as much as you can handle in one setting.

[941] That's not my jam.

[942] I've been using one milligram THC spray and I microdose cannabis fairly often just in the evening and it helps with sleep.

[943] But this MDMA, man, it's a whole fucking different ballgame.

[944] I think you should try if I can request at some point you try the pharmaceutical grade MDMA just to know what it's all about because Rick Doblin was saying you give it you give it space like you would with a classical hallucinogen you're not supposed to fucking go back to work the next day or do a bunch of bullshit tedious drawn back in the real world give it space journal meditate throw on some easy listening music and rest and if you do that you're fine because in their protocol they're not allowed to use anything else but the MDMA so I asked him like why don't you guys have a protocol for 5HTP vitamin C different things we know help build back the neurotransmitter support you may have lost and he said just with the finagling with the FDA and everything they have to go through he says it's fucking impossible but if we give them that day off they're gold and then of course new mood plug on it again was designed for that experience to be able to curtail any kind of come down I've had zero issues after using the pharmaceutical grade what was the original name of it roll on roll off or what was it like that yeah it was something like that.

[945] Yeah, he was 5 -HTP boosters, like, I mean, 5 -HTP supplementation has been going on for a long time.

[946] A lot of people have been into that.

[947] It works.

[948] Yeah, it's a smart way to approach MDMA, to like to stock up, to have a bunch in your system, so your body's going to have to build this shit up again because you're going to flood it with it for a while.

[949] So you're going to have this weird little period where your body's going to struggle.

[950] But it's a thing that I would hope if these studies do continue to prove without a doubt that it's beneficial to a lot of these people, that they make it available to more people.

[951] It will be.

[952] It should be quick, man. They estimate 2022, I think, or 2023 at the latest.

[953] That's not that bad.

[954] But the FDA made it breakthrough drug, I think, breakthrough drug, which is like on the fast track to go through.

[955] I think the whole world would be way better if everybody was on just like a micro dose of ecstasy all the time.

[956] Just a little, just a little, like, ah, I don't know that that could last, but that would be medicine just a little micro dose that's the thing you talk about compassion and all these other important lessons that have been talked about in all spiritual texts it's automatic you drop right into that yeah do you think that it's possible to train your brain to produce more of it do you think through meditation and mindfulness and all these different you know practices that people do to stay present to be more open and more loving that you could build that up almost like a muscle I don't know that you could build serotonin up over time.

[957] I'm sure there's some type of cap where, you know, nature does not want us to be happy 24 -7.

[958] Is there any tricks, though, to like getting it to turn on?

[959] There's a book, The Science of Mindfulness, by Dr. Ronald Siegel.

[960] It's on one of the great courses on Audible, and he's a Harvard professor.

[961] And he talks about the brain like a fucking muscle.

[962] And science is back this, the more you trained that, the easier it is to drop into.

[963] And I've had coaches, breathwork coaches, you know, we're working with the art. of breath, Rob Wilson and Brian McKenzie came out and they did like a full fucking blown day of breath working on it.

[964] And the more often you can shift into parasympathetic state from fight or flight sympathetic.

[965] You know, you shift consciously through breath into that parasympathetic state.

[966] That becomes trainable.

[967] You can do that over and over again.

[968] And then all it takes is just a couple deep breaths in your back, right?

[969] Because you train that.

[970] The fucking body remembers, the brain remembers.

[971] And when you're in those states, that shifts everything from the neurochemical response to the brainwave state you can drop from beta into alpha into theta that's fascinating stuff man it's crazy to think what we understand about the various pathways these chemicals have to go through and then what is like still confusing like here's the big one where's the where's the consciousness coming from exactly has it all become the thing that's looking through Kyle Kingsbury's eyes and seeing me and mine looking at you.

[972] What's exactly?

[973] What's, what is that thing?

[974] What is that thing?

[975] That seems to be like almost like a, like an energy that runs through this machine.

[976] It's through fucking everything.

[977] Yeah.

[978] It's in all things.

[979] But if we thought about it that way, like you'd be so much more concerned with keeping that energy high, you know?

[980] I mean, how much of what would people experience when it comes to the word depression?

[981] How much of it is their life going bad, tragedy, poor health, bad job choices, how much of it is some sort of a weird genetic thing?

[982] How much?

[983] I mean, there's so many variables as to what causes depression, but such a giant number of people suffer from depression.

[984] Well, I think it's, I think it only, if I'm being honest, I think it's going to get worse.

[985] You know, like you look at the way we live and the closer and closer you've spoken about that I were just talking about fucking New York.

[986] We're not meant to be that confined.

[987] We're not meant to sit out.

[988] Like, we're withheld from the fucking sun right now.

[989] Yeah.

[990] So many of these things communicate with our bodies.

[991] I'm working with the genetic specialist, Ryan Fristinger.

[992] He was on Chris Ryan's show.

[993] Sunlight influences 500 on -off switches on our epigenetic level for the good, unless you fucking overdo it, right?

[994] 500.

[995] 500 plus on -off switches in our DNA are affected by sunlight, positively.

[996] Right?

[997] I mean, there's, that's what they look at vitamin D3.

[998] Take that, for example.

[999] They're calling that a hormone now, not a fucking vitamin.

[1000] Really?

[1001] It's a messenger.

[1002] That's how much it influences in the body.

[1003] Incredibly important.

[1004] So when you think about all these things like being barefoot, being connected to the earth, going in the fucking ocean, science will catch up in certain ways, but we get fixated on the thing.

[1005] We get fixated on our phones, on whatever TV is going on.

[1006] We're closed off from other people.

[1007] We think, you know, communicating.

[1008] through Facebook is the same as being fucking face -to -face, it's not.

[1009] You know, the more we head that direction, and we're putting, you know, as you put it, putting fucking shit food in our body for mouth pleasure, that influences the brain, right?

[1010] 80 to 90 % of all of our neurotransmitters are made by the bacteria in our gut.

[1011] So you think the shit meal is just going to put on five pounds.

[1012] It's not.

[1013] It might put on five pounds, but it's going to fuck your brain up for a while.

[1014] You make you a little bit more emotional.

[1015] Fuck with your sharpness, your memory recall.

[1016] All that's impacted.

[1017] sleep's impacted i wish michael walker talked a bit more about that i just don't think it's in his wheelhouse i don't think it is he's uh he's just a guy who studies sleep and the the effects on it but fuck was that in illuminating yeah eye opening that podcast was so important to me it was fucking fantastic i think his book is really good but as far as like dialing in sleep it's more of this is what happens when you don't sleep sleep the book sleep by nick little hails is probably my favorite because that gives you all it's a fucking how to guide on how to maximize sleep and when you were younger lack of sleep didn't affect you the way it affects you now right correct yeah everything he talks about like with that shift that you have that happens in adolescence where you become a night owl no doubt and i probably still could stay out a little bit later until having a kid and then that's your your immediate reset yeah bitch you're getting up when the sun comes up yeah be prepared sir get ready Yeah, it's, there's so many different factors that lead to a healthy body.

[1018] But how much of a healthy body leads to a happy mind?

[1019] That's where it gets, like, you can't blame some of these people that are suffering from, like, a disease.

[1020] Some of these people that have, like, something wrong with the way their brain is producing these happy hormones.

[1021] Yeah, I don't think you can say it's just this one thing, like, well, if you just ate clean or if you just went keto or you just ate paleo, then you wouldn't have depression.

[1022] I don't think that's it at all.

[1023] But certainly that's a factor.

[1024] It certainly could be a factor, for sure.

[1025] Being in nature is a factor.

[1026] And unpacking trauma, Gabramate says at the heart of all fucking addiction is some form of trauma.

[1027] Yeah, I'm sure.

[1028] Completely makes sense.

[1029] Yeah, his theories on that are fascinating.

[1030] I never thought about it that way.

[1031] At some point of trauma during your developmental stage has led you to seek out this weird, crazy feeling and experience.

[1032] when you uh have you known many people that have had like serious addictions like uh meth or oh yeah yeah uh without name and names uh people very close to me family members uh been addicted of meth um lost a cousin to pills um i've been going to aa not for me for a family member since i was three years old so i've seen that you know What if is no now is that trauma based is like everything because pills don't pills just get kind of get everybody?

[1033] Yeah pills can get everybody.

[1034] There's no doubt about that.

[1035] Unless you whine yourself off.

[1036] Yeah, there was some trauma there in all of those circumstances.

[1037] And I'm not saying, you know, pills can fucking grab you.

[1038] There's no doubt.

[1039] But certainly with the meth and the alcohol, which was other things, you know, no doubt there was trauma there.

[1040] Yeah, I've known of quite a few people that got fucked up on pills after operations or injuries or stuff like that.

[1041] But I know quite a few of them that it kicked it, you know, that just realized it was happening.

[1042] When, like, Shobbs talked about it quite a bit.

[1043] When he fought Crocop, his nose was destroyed.

[1044] So they had to rebuild his nose, and he started taking pain pills.

[1045] And he said, after a while, he's just taking him every day just because he just wanted to take him.

[1046] And then his friends came over and cleaned down his medicine cabinet and went, cut, the shit, dude.

[1047] It's four months later.

[1048] taking these things all day long you can't do that anymore and he's like whoa he said he almost didn't even realize he was doing it just kind of caught a hold of them yeah shit becomes habit especially when it's that euphoric must be amazing you know what i took the other day i took a large dose of cratum yeah everybody always tells you that cratum is uh one thing at a small dose you know it's kind of uh two pills to me seems uh almost like a stimulant yeah like 100 % yeah And even up to four pills, but you get into land to eight pills.

[1049] I took eight pills the other day.

[1050] I was like, whoa, this, I am high.

[1051] I'm like, I'm fully functional.

[1052] I'm not worried about the way my body moves.

[1053] Like, it's not like I'm going to fall down when I'm walking.

[1054] Everything seems like it's working good, but I'm clearly high.

[1055] But I'm not high in a bad way.

[1056] Like, I can talk fine.

[1057] I can remember things, full conversations, happy, remember people's names, but I'm definitely high.

[1058] Yeah, Kratum's a funny one.

[1059] you know it's it's still an opiate it's still hitting those receptors is it actually an opiate yeah i believe it is um what are they hamilton morris from hamilton's pharmacopoe he's coming on soon yeah he's you know that's one of the things he says because he's not spiritual he even though he does all these psychedelics um so he gets really pissed off and people call it plant medicine or teacher planner and the gym and shit like you have to fucking say it you call it what it is right i'm sure you didn't drop out of that there's a lot of that fuckery though right yeah but but at the same time i mean It's also real in a lot of time.

[1060] Yeah, you can take mushrooms recreationally, or you can do the heroic dose and be guided.

[1061] You can do ayahuasca in the Amazon, and it's a whole, it's a fucking world different.

[1062] Oh, for sure.

[1063] It's a totally different experience.

[1064] But, yeah, going back to create them, thankfully, I've always had this thing with opiates where if I had too much, I get nauseated really bad.

[1065] So I can take one or two pills, and it is a mild stimulant.

[1066] I drove to Greenfield's house when I was living in Vegas to podcast with them, a thousand miles each direction.

[1067] and I just have one pill every three hours Wow And it was awesome I was fucking I felt great So one pill every three hours Just kept you focus while you're driving Yeah and I felt there's mild euphoria I felt good being in that little ass Prius The whole way You know which is important right Let me sweeten the deal I don't even know how you climb in that thing I gotta fucking put in there But if I'll take three or more I'm fucked up Like I'm riding that fence I'm gonna puke Am I gonna puke So I think So even for you they have the same reaction that like an oxy would have yep and i've had i mean in college i did some weird shit i keistered an oxy once and uh wow fucking for the folks not learned in the ways of the dirty dogs he put it up his asshole two knuckles deep not super deep keestered people people are like what keistered so big guy hit the google bar dudes would just go oh hmm oh yeah like last time last time when i was on your show you're like oh you lost me when you told me the trees started talking to you when I was describing an ayahuasca experience.

[1068] That'll be the one this time.

[1069] You lost me when you talked about putting a pill up your ass.

[1070] That's when they turned out the podcast.

[1071] But yeah, I felt fucking great that one time.

[1072] I tried it.

[1073] I tried to, I snorted one later, you know, like a few weeks later.

[1074] And I was fucked up.

[1075] I was fucking puking the whole time.

[1076] You snorted it?

[1077] You could suck off the, I don't want to tell people how to do bad drugs.

[1078] I want to tell people how to do good drugs.

[1079] Why would you snort it because it goes right into your bloodstream?

[1080] Yeah.

[1081] You know, you can suck off that time release, crush it up, let it dry.

[1082] Wow.

[1083] So, but that ultimately, that was like, well, yeah, there's still, thankfully, I still have this fucking regulator in my body that says don't put these fucking super addictive manmade chemicals in your body.

[1084] That's fascinating.

[1085] Do you think is cretum manmade?

[1086] No, it's sort of a plant, right?

[1087] It is plant -based.

[1088] I mean, all this shit's plant -based.

[1089] The issue is when we take something and we fucking concentrate it and change it in a way to where it just really has an affinity for receptors.

[1090] And we lose out on all these other alcohol.

[1091] colloids and turpines and things like look at maranol versus whole plant cannabis oh right so you're saying if they take this stuff and then turn it into an actual drug that they sell they're only going to sell parts of it right yeah they're selling the active ingredient like cocaine versus fucking coca leaf right totally different experience you ever had coca tea you have had coca tea i've thrown coca leaf this call they call it mombe in columbia you put it in your mouth you yeah how is fucking amazing really it's like a cup of coffee though like less jittery your brain Rane turns on, it's a neotropic, you feel like a million bucks.

[1092] We can't have it because of Miami.

[1093] They fucked us.

[1094] They, all their whole city's made out of Coke.

[1095] Did you know that?

[1096] No. No, dude.

[1097] Have you ever seen cocaine cowboys?

[1098] Yes.

[1099] Dude, that's all Miami.

[1100] All that area of Florida.

[1101] At one point in time, I don't know if it's still the case, but Miami had more banks per capita than any place else in the country because everybody is just laundering coke money.

[1102] And Coke was just coming in like crazy.

[1103] There's so many great documentaries on it.

[1104] It's a really, really fascinating time in, like, history.

[1105] Like, during cocaine cowboys once, shout out to Billy Corbyn, the first one, they talked about how many of these police officers wound up dead or in jail.

[1106] And it was like an entire class, graduating class, either was dead or in jail for corruption.

[1107] But at the time that, you know, they had.

[1108] made this time period, however many, you know, years it was of this cocaine trafficking.

[1109] It was crazy, man. Like, it's an incredible time in, like, human history.

[1110] Man. This article says that it's ramped back up to those 1980s drug war heights of production.

[1111] Whoa.

[1112] Okay, so how's it getting in?

[1113] That's the question.

[1114] Yeah.

[1115] How are they getting it in?

[1116] I don't think that's a problem.

[1117] I don't think it is either, but how are they doing it?

[1118] And how do they, I mean, that's a lot of money.

[1119] That's why.

[1120] Where are you putting all that money?

[1121] There's so much money in it that.

[1122] What?

[1123] Look at this.

[1124] Florida Customs and Border Protection confiscated 4 ,200 pounds of cocaine last year compared to 1 ,730 pounds the year prior.

[1125] That's so much.

[1126] That means the guy that was getting paid off the year before got caught.

[1127] Maybe.

[1128] how else are they getting it in I don't maybe they just caught more Coke that time maybe they're getting coked up and then they're taking the both they just taking risks I know where these fucking cops hide I know them better than they know themselves we've never seen cocaine production at these numbers oh Jesus Christ stay the fuck out of Miami for a while folks it could get crazy or go there or go there yep I like the way you think dude into the fray you know where's the party Miami The DEA estimates Colombia produced 710 tons of pure cocaine last year, or enough to fill about 18 semi -trucks.

[1129] Did you see that they found the first coca farm in Mexico?

[1130] Oh, Jesus.

[1131] That could be a problem.

[1132] Yeah.

[1133] Well, it actually might help with the drug wars.

[1134] Really?

[1135] If they can grow it.

[1136] Get them to fight against each other?

[1137] They can grow it.

[1138] Yeah, Mexicans and Colombians have been fighting for a long as time.

[1139] So they would start fighting with each other and that would help the drug war?

[1140] They would fight less because Mexico would have its own production.

[1141] Oh.

[1142] But, I mean, they said it was growing in a place that wasn't the same altitude.

[1143] And obviously, cocaine is an alkaloid that is really, it grows at altitude.

[1144] So you want that, that environmental stimulus for that.

[1145] You know, you want the hormetic stressor in order for it to produce more cocaine pound for pound.

[1146] And I think it would produce far less that that's at least what they were saying in the article.

[1147] which makes sense to me. What's the justification for...

[1148] What is this, Jamie?

[1149] This is the drug meal?

[1150] Yeah, so they're getting it in.

[1151] It says speedboats, drug meals, and on commercial flights.

[1152] Look at this poor old lady.

[1153] She's holding a kilo.

[1154] She looks like she's about 70 years old, maybe older, maybe 80 years old, and she's fully strapped up with cocaine.

[1155] I mean, who could blame this lady?

[1156] Do you think she's out there hustling?

[1157] She got a pistol in people's faces and buying that out of her, too.

[1158] That's fucked up.

[1159] Oh, that is fucked up.

[1160] So we need more good drugs and less bad drugs.

[1161] We definitely need more good drugs.

[1162] We need to do something to get this wave of negativity that so many people are experiencing on a regular basis.

[1163] Do you know?

[1164] Settle that down and bring that up.

[1165] Do you know anybody that's done ketamine treatment?

[1166] Yes.

[1167] And pretty good results, right?

[1168] Neil Brennan had very good results.

[1169] He liked it quite a bit.

[1170] he he's done a bunch of different things for depression magnetic things and ketamine things he said ketamine was very effective yeah i had one of my first coaches uh striking coach he had you know he'd been put on every kind of fucking SSRI for years and just felt like shit and uh he did four ketamine treatments and he's down to like one SSRI off 90 % of his medication he says he's never felt better and like that that shitty voice that everyone has in their head that was so loud for him is non -existent now.

[1171] Whoa.

[1172] We got to do that.

[1173] Dr. Craig put us through slightly different.

[1174] Most of the people that I think that are doing ketamine treatment do at IV.

[1175] We had an intramuscular injection of ketamine.

[1176] That's the John Lilly.

[1177] It was fucking insane.

[1178] Like 40 minutes long.

[1179] And it was kind of tied in with the stem cells really to just be in a state of allowing and whatever subconscious level of accepting this foreign substance into your body, let's let's kind of move the needle on that again that's theory um what's the experience like what it's a psychedelic right it is but it's different so again we talked about the the classical types tryptamine base going to fit in serotonin receptors in different parts of the brain um this is a dissociative so it pulls you back layers you know like we talked about at cart toll last time how we talks be the observer be the witness of your thoughts you're not your thoughts just pull yourself back a layer and kind of see your mind chatter as this interesting thing like kids arguing, right?

[1180] This will force that.

[1181] And it pulls you back layers beyond that, like to the point where you know you're not in your body.

[1182] But when you reenter your body, there's a lot of gratitude.

[1183] And you can kind of see things where they are.

[1184] You know, you understand now like, oh, this is how I was feeling before.

[1185] But I've been removed from it long enough to when I come back to it.

[1186] I can recognize it for what it is.

[1187] And I don't have depression now, you know, So doing it was just more of a, let's see what happens, you know, kind of, kind of intention as opposed to, like, people that are going in there working on shit might be a bit different for them.

[1188] But it was fucking bananas.

[1189] Yeah, I've never touched it.

[1190] I knew a guy who got addicted to it, though, as a street drug, as a party drug, you know, some people snorted it.

[1191] Yeah, I've snorted it.

[1192] Yeah.

[1193] What does it do?

[1194] It's, you know, it's kind of like LSD.

[1195] You have a microdosa LSD, completely different experience than a full hit or two to five to whatever.

[1196] all different experiences you know if you take like a key bump a key bump for people with the lack of the terminology would just be like the end of a key is worth into a bag you just quick little snort and um it's very relaxing you want to move but you know if you push the envelope a little bit because it's disassociative it's very disorienting like you can like i don't know where the fuck i am or what's going on something if you go really far it's it's it's it's It's similar to injecting it, where you go in the K -hole.

[1197] You're kind of paralyzed and close your eyes.

[1198] You're in a different spot.

[1199] You're in a different spot.

[1200] But the psychedelic trip from that is...

[1201] You said you're in a different spot, like you're in a different place, like psychedelic?

[1202] Yeah.

[1203] Yeah, like you could be...

[1204] I mean, for 30 to 45 minutes, you could be in a vision, you know?

[1205] You could be elsewhere.

[1206] Your consciousness is not in your body.

[1207] Too.

[1208] That's the K -hole.

[1209] Yeah, that's the K -hole.

[1210] Yeah.

[1211] The guy who invented the sensory deprivation tank used to do it.

[1212] intramuscularly and then climb into the tank yeah i heard that he had uh at one point by the end he was so hooked on it that he would run an iv so he could stay on 24 hours in there but you know i was telling you about that book that he wrote the center of the cyclone yeah that was a fucking fascinating book because he would he would get as a medical doctor 300 uh he'd get ampules of 300 iu from sandos pharmaceuticals of pharmaceutical grade lsd do that intravenous then get in the float tank for 10 hours and the trip reports he has when you read these they're very ayahuasca s like talking to other beings and other consciousness dmt like experience but 10 hours not fucking 15 minutes and just fascinating like he's and as a doctor so detailed in his explanation of what he's seeing what it means to him pretty fucking cool yeah that's an experience that once you know that you can have.

[1213] I don't know that if I, I, I would have a real hard time fitting into regular life.

[1214] If I knew that I could just have that 10 hours, like the DMT flash of 15 minutes of the weirdest interactions with whatever they are, whatever those things are, when you come back, imagine that for 10 hours, it might, you know, it might like just change everything about your perceptions of life you might just give up on civilization and move to the forest or something you might and that's exactly what happened to the unabomber you know the unabomber is a part of the Harvard LSD studies they juice that guy to the tits damn and then afterwards he went to be a professor at Berkeley so he could save up enough money so he could buy a fucking house in the woods and blow up the people that are creating technology because the technology is what's going to supplant human beings.

[1215] It's going to take over.

[1216] Usurp our position on Earth or some crazy shit.

[1217] And he just decided he was going to kill all these fucking scientists.

[1218] Remember that?

[1219] He was like professors and...

[1220] That's an odd take.

[1221] I had a different take on technology in a ayahuasca ceremony where I saw pretty much what's happening now.

[1222] It was like this beautiful merging.

[1223] It wasn't man left behind.

[1224] It wasn't super intelligence with Nick Bostrum where we have to worry about this thing's taking over.

[1225] Like we fucking stayed neck and neck with it and integrate with it throughout.

[1226] throughout and we do change.

[1227] We're not the fucking same, but we're not the same now.

[1228] That's one of the things they talked about, like, who's the first cyborg?

[1229] Eyeglasses.

[1230] You wear fucking eyeglasses?

[1231] You're a fucking cyborg.

[1232] That's manmade technology integrated into your being that changes your perception of reality.

[1233] Sure.

[1234] Right?

[1235] So we're already doing that with our fucking phones.

[1236] We're already there.

[1237] You know, cars.

[1238] Yeah, you had this weird idea that it has to be implanted into you in order for that to be the case.

[1239] We're already fucking there.

[1240] Yeah, we're there both with the connection with this thing that's always in our pocket and then with transportation and then transportation hooks up to the connection so you can listen to things you know like I mean how many times you're in your car listening a book on tape through Bluetooth you know or a podcast that you download that's everything Aubrey Aubrey has a chapter in his book on the day on that it's mindfulness or mindfulness so when you're driving like what's the worst part of fucking most people's days the commute right yeah so you can choose to be a pissed off guy you can listen to talk radio you can do all these things Or you can practice mindfulness meditation where you're resetting yourself.

[1241] You're giving yourself some quiet time.

[1242] Obviously, eyes are open while your hands are on the wheel.

[1243] Or you do mindfulness where you fucking throw on a dope podcast or a book from Audible.

[1244] And you would take information in that's going to help you fucking grow as a person, right?

[1245] Or it's just even being entertaining.

[1246] I enjoy fictional books.

[1247] I like some fiction on audio books.

[1248] What's your favorite fiction?

[1249] You know what?

[1250] I love Stephen King books, but I do not like it.

[1251] he reads them you need to hire a fucking professional god damn it see you're that's i i like i like the author i do almost always i'm reading the tipping point from um malcolm gladwell and um hearing him do the audio part is great because he's very passionate about the subject matter and he's the guy that wrote it and so him reading out these results and all these different facts and really fascinating things about the tipping point and you know certain trends is Stephen King is like he's a brilliant, brilliant writer.

[1252] Like one of my favorite writers, for sure my favorite horror writer.

[1253] I loved his shit.

[1254] Like, I used to read him when I was taking the train to go to Taekwendo practice.

[1255] I would read Stephen King books all day long.

[1256] That's all I would read.

[1257] So I was always a giant fan of it, but as a professional actor, perhaps do a more spirited job.

[1258] I've had some fucking bad actors on Audible.

[1259] Yeah, you can get some bad ones.

[1260] You know, but like radio hosts, you know, like in the next chapter, we're going to tell you why advanced glycation end products are the devil.

[1261] And you're like, fuck off, dude.

[1262] Like, it's just, it ruins it for me. Well, especially when telling a story, this is my thing, you need someone who has a very good sense of theater, like the way they communicate the words, the way they say the words, the emphasis they put on each individual word, especially with fiction.

[1263] That's really important.

[1264] It's odd to me, though, that, like, Audible doesn't coach him on that because Aubrey was saying when he did the book, he was non -fucking stop coaching.

[1265] Like, Aubrey?

[1266] Yeah, if he was reading something, they'd be like, excuse me, Mr. Marcus, we're going to have you go ahead and reread starting at the top of the page.

[1267] It sounds like your mind's in a different place.

[1268] Like, they would catch everything, every influx, every, you know, because he's got to read far ahead.

[1269] You got to know where you're going with it, all that shit.

[1270] And he said it would, I mean, maybe they've changed over time with their approach to that.

[1271] But, well, I think, you know, it's probably completely different for different subject matter.

[1272] Aubrey's book is obviously a self -help book, own the day.

[1273] But other books that are stories about like monsters or some shit like that.

[1274] Like what's required of the, the guy reading in has to have a sense of theater.

[1275] He's telling a story.

[1276] There's got to be a, the pauses have to be, like a professional, like a professional voice actor.

[1277] That's what you want for those things.

[1278] They're better at it.

[1279] They're just better.

[1280] Stephen King's a wizard at writing.

[1281] I mean, he's fucking phenomenal.

[1282] But I don't want to hear him doing different voices and shit.

[1283] Like, it's just too weird.

[1284] You know, he's got a great book, though, and it's great not just for writers, but for everybody.

[1285] It's Stephen King on writing.

[1286] It's really interesting because it's sort of a – there's a lot of his sort of life and work philosophy in the book.

[1287] And I feel like when I read about someone who is, in my opinion, one of the – the greatest contributors to like fun books and fun horror movies i mean he's the all -time king to me and so to be able to say like well what what was going on in that guy's head as he was writing carry like how did he how did he conceive of christine like what's his what's his process what's his process for writing it's really interesting man first of all he doesn't even know what the fuck he's going to write like when he starts something like he doesn't know where he's going he just does it and as he's doing it he figures out where it's going to go like that's part of the genius of his method is that it's not like this sort of like um he doesn't have a fucking outline yeah bob is going to get bit by the snake and then bob's going to turn into a horse and then you know all this stuff is going to happen and then his wife's going to fall in love with that horse and then he's going to be mad when he becomes a person again he just goes with it you know he just he just and he you know he just shows up every day and just puts in the time and focuses on it and then makes it happen.

[1288] What a crazy way to make a living, to just invent stories and weird things that happen and just put it all together in your head and then give it to people like, look what I've done.

[1289] I came up with a story and then you're opening like, fuck, where's the story going?

[1290] This story's crazy.

[1291] It's a really interesting way to make a living because he's using, like he's flexing one very specific part of his brain that most people don't really use at all or hardly ever use most of us don't have any type of of creativity left it's sucked out through school for work yeah we're fucking taught to just go sit and yeah be a cog in the machine unless you're super fortunate and have a job where you can create yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah got to tickle that piece though i met this guy ted decker who's one of fucking Aubrey's greatest mentors out in Sedona and he's a fictional writer for the most part but just fucking he's a wizard And I was doing a water fast So I had a five -day water fast Just water?

[1292] Just water for five days How long did you make it?

[1293] Four and a half.

[1294] Damn.

[1295] You gave up a half a day early?

[1296] Well, the thing was...

[1297] You're so close to home.

[1298] The thing was...

[1299] The science shows four days, right?

[1300] Four days is the magic mark.

[1301] So the extra day was just like, all right, I got an extra day to go.

[1302] But we height Cathedral Rock and Sedona And it's fucking epic.

[1303] And there is an energy there.

[1304] Like New York, but different.

[1305] But what is, what's going on with Sedona?

[1306] Why is Sedona all this?

[1307] Is this a Sedona?

[1308] Well, from what I understand, why it's the hippies traveler's guide and everybody wants to be there is, um, are you familiar with pulse electromagnetic frequency?

[1309] Uh, I've heard that those words put together in that order.

[1310] So for everybody, everybody that's about to jump on the fucking woo woo bandwagon and shit on me right now, punch in the Google bar, do me a solid, punch in the Google bar, NASA study on PEMF.

[1311] Okay.

[1312] three year fucking study so it's verified with the earth has its own energy field right whether you want to call where you think the earth's alive and its guy and all that i'll leave that up to you but it has its own fucking energy field and so there's it's it's not the same it's not equal throughout the earth there are places where that's accentuated and you feel that more you feel it more when you're in the ocean there's negative ions there uh wallace j nichols wrote physiological and molecular genetic effects of time varying electromagnetic fields on human neuronal cells.

[1313] I've never seen that word before.

[1314] I've seen neuronal.

[1315] Neuronal cells.

[1316] Noronol.

[1317] Like the way they're saying.

[1318] Why is it, is it, it's just because it's all in caps that it looks so weird to me?

[1319] You know, occasionally a word just looks weird.

[1320] That looks weird, that word.

[1321] Neuronal.

[1322] There's a good book, PMF.

[1323] I forget the author, but I think it has to do with that.

[1324] I think it has to do with that.

[1325] So you really do feel that, that, that energy.

[1326] there it's palpable and it's not fucking make -believe so knowing that we'd be in this special place knowing that i'd be with some really interesting people and that if i was to take some medicine at that point in time after fasting for four days what hamilton morrison would call drugs yes what do you call drugs so i had 200 micrograms of lSD okay and i won't mention anybody else that had it with me just because maybe don't sign off on that kind of shit publicly but um We hiked to the top of the Cathedral Rock, and it's fucking incredible.

[1327] I mean, incredible.

[1328] And another buddy of mine who's a teacher at Black Swan Yoga, he brought up some really good cacao from the chocolate, but pure fucking cacao from Guatemala.

[1329] He made it into these drinks.

[1330] And that's what I broke the fast with.

[1331] Oh, wow.

[1332] And there's chemicals in that.

[1333] You know, like it's funny what people fucking qualify as drugs, because like Terrence and Dennis McKenna say, like we are walking bags of chemicals.

[1334] Right.

[1335] This caffeine that I'm drinking right now is a fucking drug.

[1336] Yeah, 100%.

[1337] 100%.

[1338] Theobromine in cacao is a drug.

[1339] It's an alkaloid in cacao that will elevate heart rate.

[1340] It's a mild diuretic, and it fucking opens the heart.

[1341] It's like a microdose of MDMA.

[1342] Really?

[1343] Cacao is?

[1344] Stacking that.

[1345] Why do you think people fucking love chocolate?

[1346] What?

[1347] It's amazing.

[1348] Theobroman special shit.

[1349] But chocolate would have like the tiniest amount of it.

[1350] It depends what chocolate you're eating, right?

[1351] If you're eating some really bitter, dark chocolate, that's going to be.

[1352] and a half higher amounts, you know, but we had a fuck ton of this.

[1353] Like, you're supposed to have four ounces is, like, a good dose.

[1354] Four ounces of liquid?

[1355] Of this liquid with, with their special, special preparation method.

[1356] My special blend, my friend.

[1357] Special blend.

[1358] So what is the, like, what is, like, a shake?

[1359] Like, is there other stuff in it?

[1360] Did they mix it was?

[1361] Yeah, there's some cayenne.

[1362] There's lemon juice.

[1363] There's different things to help activate it.

[1364] It's done the way the Mayans did.

[1365] It's been passed down generation after generation.

[1366] And it's like microdosing.

[1367] MDMA?

[1368] Yeah, and so stack that with the LSD, and it's kind of like a candy flip.

[1369] Now, could people just go buy cacao and microdosed MDMA?

[1370] Well, you've got to order it offline and do the, or online, and do the preparation properly.

[1371] But, I mean, there's no doubt you feel different.

[1372] It's warming.

[1373] You feel more loving.

[1374] You're sensitive to touch.

[1375] But this is, I mean, this is not in any way illegal, right?

[1376] No, it's not any way illegal.

[1377] But I was talking to - Yeah, I've been talking to a guy who was like, look, if they fucking just discovered cacao today they would say potentially this is this is drug i've never heard this before this is fascinating fucking look it up there's a ton of shit uh this guy that that's on a selfhacked dot com i forget his name but he's a wizard and he has like amazing articles on different chemicals he talks about 13 scientifically back studies on theo bromine that are all human studies it's dope shit so anyways we stay we take this and uh we climb the mountain we're in nature we're doing fucking wimhoff breathing different shit up there we look we look at the part We were sticking out like sore thumbs.

[1378] They're fucking 230 -pound guy with his shirt off doing...

[1379] Why snorting cacao could be the next party drug.

[1380] Next big party drug.

[1381] Oh, my God.

[1382] And that's on maxim .com.

[1383] So we take...

[1384] Jesus Christ, this is crazy.

[1385] We take our substances.

[1386] We're up there, and, you know, this guy...

[1387] He's got like 12 books that are number one bestsellers.

[1388] This guy's going to snort it.

[1389] He's...

[1390] Oh, is that...

[1391] He's joking around?

[1392] He's joking around as fuck.

[1393] I don't think so.

[1394] He's not...

[1395] Oh, those are key bumps.

[1396] Key bumps.

[1397] What are you saying?

[1398] He's going to snort that?

[1399] He is going to snort that.

[1400] Here we go.

[1401] Let me see what you got, son.

[1402] Fucking pound it.

[1403] You just pound it up your nose?

[1404] Outta boy.

[1405] Actually, I have snorted Theo bromine recently as the office guinea pig.

[1406] That's not the way I would recommend administering it.

[1407] What's wrong with going up the nose?

[1408] Uncomfortable?

[1409] It's not that bad.

[1410] No?

[1411] That's not a blanket recommendation for people, though.

[1412] But this is not a dangerous substance.

[1413] no no i mean too much of it you know there's a fucking upper limit to anything even water but you know on the mountain going back to this on the mountain so with ted decker ted decker hi ted ted's the fucking man and he's written all these books and he's like would you like me to tell a story and imagine you're sitting with stephen king on lSD on the mountain top and he says would you like me to tell you a story whoa that level of fucking writer and he goes into one of his books and i was fucking sold like just drawn right in i could see everything fucking alien worlds all this shit that she's got a battle and you really see like just the mind like how creative the mind can be it blew me the fuck away of course the substance has helped me draw me into it but man he's a special guy well there's quite a few special people out there which is why we're so lucky we can go to the movies you know what i mean i mean think of how much fucking creativity how much thought and imagining scenarios and putting them all together that takes to make like i saw the incredibles too yesterday is it dope fucking incredible i love the first one i didn't even mean to say incredible because it's incredible it's it's great we're considering taking bear to that but he's only three so we're not sure if he'll appreciate he loves those movies at home but you know he talks and shit like that but little kids talk at the movie theater when you go to little kid movies it's normal it's cool there's other little kids doing it too yeah we think we might do that for the incredibles too so they're fucking so good the Pixar movies are so good did you ever see dinosaur um that doesn't know i could you got to be honest that does annoy people though if you go when a bunch of teenagers are there or like young adults and the baby starts talking they should be like a day like there should be certain shows they do them now first show of the day and the kids are allowed to talk first show of the day and a lot of theaters do oh see that's smart for the matinee that's smart that's smart but damn that's that opens up the door if you tell them they're allowed to talk yeah that's true i'd still try to keep it quiet but dude good dinosaur Pixar Pixar yeah and they fucking trip balls in the movie oh yeah what did they eat like some rotten fruit and and the fucking green dinosaur grows like four eyes then they switch heads and they're running through everywhere i forgot all about that with each other's scrolls he sticks his tongue out and he's got the kid's face for his tongue it was awesome i forgot all about that they're trickling it in society's changing you think yeah fuck yeah fuck yeah it's the renaissance michael poland said that and he's not even an advocate he knows it's changing well he's kind of kind of more of an advocate now, certainly than he was before he wrote that book, his most recent book on psychedelics.

[1414] That changed his life.

[1415] I think it's a smart play if you're a person in his position to say, like, look, I'm just an advocate for the science, right?

[1416] But as Rick Doblin says, you know, if this stuff, when this stuff becomes available to people, it's never going to be you go fill your fucking prescription of psilocybin at Walgreens and you can go fuck off anywhere you want, right?

[1417] They'll have facility centers where people can go and it'll be guided the right circumstances set and setting will be paid attention to but in that experience like it shouldn't just be for sick people it shouldn't just be for people with depression or PTSD or some type of you know uh rape victims fill in the blank it should be healthy individuals that also want to have a deeper connection and to figure shit out and have new perspective in life right in poland i would i would qualify as that yeah i think he's a healthy guy you know a heart heart shit aside, like he's a healthy guy who wanted to have an experience that would draw him in a little deeper so he could understand.

[1418] And now when you listen to him talk about it, there's no doubt he's fucking sold on it.

[1419] Yeah, I think what you're saying is really important because I don't think there should be any restrictions on something that's super beneficial.

[1420] If there's no real indications that it's hurting these people and it's all these indications that it's helping these people, especially when it comes to trauma.

[1421] Look, man, there's certain people that for sure have experienced way more trauma than others.

[1422] There's certain people that have, you know, been to war, they've lost friends, they've been involved in car accidents, there's certain people that have been through things that are just horrific and almost impossible to forget.

[1423] And that is a fact that they should have access to this medicine.

[1424] But just because like some girl lived her life and didn't have anything traumatic happened to her and she's trying to find her way in this world and she's trying to figure out, you know, what is insecurity or what is my connection to these people?

[1425] whatever are my real passions and drives in life.

[1426] She says, I'm going to take some sort of a MDMA Molly trip and find out how I feel about things.

[1427] Find out of it it gives me anything.

[1428] She should be able to do it too.

[1429] She should be able to experiment with her brain and see like, hey, all these people are reporting super positive experiences.

[1430] What am I supposed to ignore it?

[1431] Because some bureaucrat has decided for whatever connection they have to some pharmaceutical companies that you fucking keep this gay, height on making anything legal.

[1432] Anything you make legal is going to fuck with my bottom line.

[1433] And that's what a lot of people think.

[1434] And so there's this weird sort of disconnect between the people that want the drugs and the people that won't let you have the drugs.

[1435] Like, who are you working for the people that won't let us have the drugs?

[1436] And why do these other people that don't want the drugs think the drugs are bad?

[1437] Do they have any pot experience themselves?

[1438] No. Well, then you can't vote about pot, you fuck.

[1439] You know, I mean, that's crazy, right?

[1440] You shouldn't be a doctor unless you go to med school.

[1441] You shouldn't talk about driving a car if you've never driven a fucking car.

[1442] You can't talk about pot if you don't do it.

[1443] You don't know what you're talking about.

[1444] So, oh, you smoke pot, you got real high, you got paranoid so everybody shouldn't smoke pot.

[1445] Fuck off, pussy.

[1446] Yeah, that's Graham Hancock.

[1447] You don't, you know, what he's talking about Richard Dawkins.

[1448] You don't have a seat at the fucking table to tell me what my ayahuasca experience is unless you've done it.

[1449] You don't get a seat at the table.

[1450] You don't get to tell me it's some neurochemical reaction and this is where it fits in the brain if you haven't had that experience.

[1451] You can't tell me that that's and that's what's what's the one thing that's fucking odd at the very least when people go through these experiences and Poland talks about this too is how real it feels.

[1452] It's how important it is and how much meaning they have, right?

[1453] Nobody's going to fucking tell me that my ayahuasca experience didn't mean shit.

[1454] I saw, you know, in one of them, my wife and I shared the same vision of.

[1455] holding a child and the next experience we saw it was a boy and fucking all the fear of being a parent came up and less than a month later we were pregnant with bear like that's as real as it fucking gets and it manifested after that coincidence or not i have a real problem with the word real too you know when when when people try to say that's not real or that's a hallucination it doesn't matter it's the same experience like by saying it's not real so what are you saying You're saying that I can't grab it and throw a fucking net over it and drag it away and then show it to you again Yeah, well, then it's not real.

[1456] You can't be repeated in a double -blind study?

[1457] How can you say it's not real if it's happening?

[1458] Yeah, and you can't repeat that.

[1459] Is that a weird thing, though?

[1460] I could take ayahuasca the rest of my life and I'm still not going to repeat the same vision and the same fucking experience again.

[1461] Yeah, anytime you think you got DMT figured out, your next trip is going to be a mind bender.

[1462] Your next trip is you get cocky going in there like I've done this before.

[1463] I'm pretty relaxed about my DMT trips.

[1464] I used to really freak out, but I don't anymore.

[1465] Bitch, you better be scared.

[1466] You better be scared.

[1467] You're white knuckling it right now.

[1468] You're going to go deep.

[1469] Garbermate said the same thing about Ayah.

[1470] He's done hundreds of ceremonies and he still gets nervous every fucking time.

[1471] She gets nervous before you do anything that's important.

[1472] It's a sign that you're getting ready for something crazy.

[1473] Well, and there's a healthy level of respect.

[1474] I think most people run into the issue, you know, they want to alter their consciousness and they'll take a substance thinking, like this is going to make me feel a certain way.

[1475] And then all of a sudden they got to deal with some shit.

[1476] They got to work through something and that's not what they had on their radar.

[1477] Yeah.

[1478] No, I agree.

[1479] And then also this need to control the experience is always the thing that fucking sends everybody off the rails and into the woods.

[1480] If they are having any kind of experience, this need to control that experience.

[1481] Like, no, there's no. No, fuck this.

[1482] I'm sitting down.

[1483] You know, and like, no, man, you got to let go.

[1484] If you don't let go, you're gone.

[1485] And you got to surrender to it.

[1486] And if you don't, you're going to go through 15 minutes of Satan.

[1487] I was with my old man in Panama at the tribal gathering, and we were both doing an ayahuasca ceremony together.

[1488] And we have the first cup, and it's strong.

[1489] Like Shapu Shaman came in, fucking amazing experience.

[1490] And they offered the second cup, and I'm like, get up, dude, we're doing it.

[1491] And he's like, I don't know.

[1492] And I'm like, come on, let's go.

[1493] So we take the second cup.

[1494] We come lay back down.

[1495] And I've had, I mean, to ballpark, there's been ceremonies where I've had four cups, and it was launch you know this two cup that's where we were fucking launched so we go back in the teepee and uh you know noble silence we're not talking to each other and he just grabs my arm and he's like i'm going to leave i'm floating out of here i don't want to go i don't want to go and i was like fuck yeah dude let go let go let go with it now's your opportunity let go see where it takes you and he's like no no i'm not letting go i want down i want down right now it's too much i'm too high and i'm like well high's not the right term and this other guy from Switzerland hurt us and he goes uh here rub some uh peppermint on his on his wrist it will help him oh jesus christ we put peppermint oil and that grounded him wow after that you know he's done iawaska since then and he was like fuck that was my opportunity to fucking break through and go it's deeper than i've ever been before but i wasn't prepared i wasn't ready to let go and surrender to it wow and that's that's it man you want to have that mindset going in where if you face some shit it's okay.

[1496] And if you have the opportunity, especially in fucking DMT or ayahuasca, which is DMT based, like to have that ability, like, all right, the answer is yes.

[1497] It makes you wonder what the guys who created yoga were doing.

[1498] I think, I think those people, like those people that learn how to do those long holding poses that they were practicing it, you know, there's a lot of belief that those people were eating a lot of hash, like especially the, the earliest people that created it and they were soma whatever the fuck soma was you ever hear references to soma i don't i don't even think they know what that is some sort of a psychedelic but that whole practice of yoga if you really think about a lot of what yoga is like you have to just breathe and just concentrate on maintaining the pose you have to put yourself into this like surrender zone you know you can't like fight a position you just kind of kind of accept it and just concentrate on breathing and hold it as long as you can until your body starts giving out and then you let it go again.

[1499] But I think that prepares you in some way to let go in psychedelic experiences.

[1500] I think that people that don't have any, if you don't have any kind of physical altercation with your body, there's no like moment where you're like, come on, man, come on, breathe, breathe, go, go, go.

[1501] If you don't have any of those.

[1502] If you never, I mean, I don't give a fuck what you're doing.

[1503] Whether it's a spin class or just, if you never have anything where you're pushing yourself when you don't want to do it, but you make yourself do it and then you did it.

[1504] If you don't have those, like those little, moments where you overcame something that feels uncomfortable, then those bends in the trip road are scary, dark.

[1505] Because you don't have any success in coming back from bad states.

[1506] You don't have any success from coming back from, like, feeling really scared or feeling really nervous.

[1507] Like, those build up a database.

[1508] If you don't have a lot of success in doing those, or especially success in getting your body to just fucking relax, just fucking relax is just a broken leg.

[1509] If you don't have that in you, like, it's probably real hard to navigate some of the darker roads of a trip where you just have to just, just kind of just breathe and just try to stay as calm as you can, let it embrace you, as calm as you can.

[1510] I think that it works both ways, too, you know, like you have, if you put yourself in uncomfortable, stressful spots in everyday life, like a cold bath or the cryo, and you come and you can stay calm in the fucking eye of the storm and come out.

[1511] of that that extrapolates out in life somebody cuts you off in traffic you're a little bit more chill it's not that big of a deal and same thing in the psychedelic experience you go through some rough shit you come out of that okay all right i still have my body i was able to work through that now it kind of lowers the noise on all the bullshit in life yeah i agree i think there's something to what you just said about doing cryo too that cryo does make you chill out after i mean for lack of a better turn no pun intended but you're um you're um you're everything's so elevated after you get out of there you feel so good that it's a that's a that's a feeling that like if there was a way to do that in a spray if you could buy that feel good spray at 7 -11 give yourself a couple pumps the same way you feel right after cryo it would hit you'd be like whoa you just get this ooh you come out and all of a sudden your body feels warm again you feel great it's a nice little trick it's a very nice little trick and it helps so many people in so many different ways with arthritis and people have constant inflammation and back problems and knee problems it's just there's such a good way to just give your body just a little extra reduction in inflammation just give yourself a little jolt oh oh feels good man people poo -poo it i don't understand the poo -pooing of it they're looking at it now there's they're studying wimhoff at stanford they see 550 % increase in dopamine wow 200 to 300 % increase in adrenaline, which impacts the immune system positively.

[1512] For how long of a Wimhoff experience?

[1513] They have different levels of cold.

[1514] They're studying at one minute at 60 degrees, you know, or 10 minutes of 60 degrees, one minute at 30 degrees.

[1515] And then they're trying to, they're going to, there's going to be more science that comes out on different.

[1516] Because I want to know, like, how long at 40?

[1517] How long in the cryo?

[1518] How long, you know, does it?

[1519] But we know there's some type of neurochemical response from it that you feel, right?

[1520] yeah so it's not just this you know it's not placebo it's not just your mind making this up or man i feel really good i think something's changed like no you you are you are changing it does have an impact well just and also stop and think about all the people that we're always scared of the fucking vikings and the russians we're scared of people coming out of the snow you know and the white walkers we're fucking scared that's the same thing probably it's probably something in our head someone who could survive the snow that we can't like fuck he's going to scared to be cold, you know?

[1521] I mean, that is, who's the scariest people in this country?

[1522] Are the toughest.

[1523] Alaskans.

[1524] It's motherfuckers.

[1525] They have shows.

[1526] They have like 10 shows.

[1527] There's only 100 people in Alaska.

[1528] They got 10 shows on people living in Alaska.

[1529] There's too many fucking shows.

[1530] There's so many of those shows.

[1531] I know there's millions of people living in Alaska.

[1532] Maybe not even, right?

[1533] No. It's not even.

[1534] Didn't we already go over this?

[1535] Like, Anchorage is like 400 ,000 people, I think.

[1536] I might have made that up.

[1537] What's the number?

[1538] 7 ,500.

[1539] 40 ,000 for the whole state.

[1540] How many people does Anchorage have?

[1541] 700.

[1542] Wow, not even a million for the whole state.

[1543] But there's like 18 shows on people living in Alaska.

[1544] But there are hearty people.

[1545] You look at them.

[1546] You're like, damn, what would I do?

[1547] Three to 400 ,000, yeah.

[1548] Yeah, so it was about right.

[1549] So that's like a, Anchorage is like a real spot, like a real city, sort of.

[1550] I mean, real nice bars or restaurants and shit like that.

[1551] But these shows about those people that live up there, those are all the people that live in, like, the Arctic circle area and they chop their own fucking firewood and fight wolves off and shit like this is one dude we've talked about him several times in the podcast it lives by himself he's the one of the weirdest of all like he's the weirdest of all the weird people because all these other people live in like regular houses and you know they just live in a house that's connected to this river and they take their dogs dog sledding and they do all this shit but they live in like a normal house they go into a house this motherfucker has like this tiny shack and he lives right next to a lake and he lives by himself and he walks everywhere and he somehow another gets like pelts and shit and makes enough money to buy bullets and and he lives out there by himself and he'll come into town like once every couple years apparently used to be married used to have a family fascinating guy I mean this guy's not faking it he's actually really living up there by himself in this room that's way smaller than the studio and he lives by himself next to a lake and he had to shoot wolves one night because he were coming for his fucking moose or his caribou the whole thing's crazy like it's by himself nobody talked to i think i think that might be a draw for people especially if there is some merging of consciousness and integration with with uh technology down the road like to that that kind of fuck this i'm going off the beaten path and you already see that people want to be off the grid but to truly be like balls deep in nature where you have to deal with wolves and bears and all the shit that's going on like that that might be a bigger draw down the road right now i'm i'm not interested in that shit well i'm not interested in that shit either but i'm interested in him being interested in it because i think that what you were just saying about technology what i thought you were going to say is about nature i think there's a deeper connection to nature if you're just living in it all the time oh no doubt i bet you get weird senses of like where things are where how how the wind feels when it's coming at you oh it's definitely coming this way like you know you know where to stand we're not to like you get a sense of the whole thing and you're a part of it you're not talking anybody so the only the only dialogue you have is internal it's like uh your buddy who fasts when he hunts yeah right you get that extra sensory coming in yeah yeah yeah remi warren always talked about that that you should hunt hungry that's some primal shit dude that makes sense though yeah totally makes sense Totally makes sense.

[1552] I mean, doing the fasting, I've done two, five -day fast now.

[1553] The brain, it doesn't, it's not like, I mean, I have extra energy.

[1554] Sleep kind of goes to shit.

[1555] You know, and Michael Walker talked a bit about that, but I can't sit and read.

[1556] Like, I can't just focus in, like, all right, my brain's turned on.

[1557] Let me just bang out emails or fucking read a book.

[1558] Like, it doesn't work that way.

[1559] But I do start to problem solve in a way that's not possible and not common when I'm eating food all the time.

[1560] It just works differently Like all this other shit turns on Wow Now when you were talking earlier about this Creative experience Mm -hmm How many times have you done creatum Well I have a boatload of it So like I mean I don't know I mean I've lost track of how many times I've done it But usually when I do it It is at that one to two pill dose I don't exceed that often You're a guy who The reason why I ask is you're a guy who Is always on top of all the latest and greatest in terms of like supplementation, the benefits of certain things.

[1561] How do you know when to stick them in and like when to lay off other stuff?

[1562] Because how do you know, because you're not necessarily getting your blood tested all the time after you do some of these things, right?

[1563] No, I do blood work, you know, fairly often, but that's just more for general health and wellness.

[1564] It's not to see how things are impacting me, you know?

[1565] Right.

[1566] Do you do, um, do you like have a detailed analysis of like what you're taking in the days before blood work and then, and compare it to times.

[1567] you're not taking those things most of the thing the thing that has the biggest impact on my blood work is if i'm in ketosis or not you know there's no there's no fucking doubt and that's also genetic you know it's not the fucking right diet for everyone um that's a painy ass to hear well what the fuck's the right one for me man well that's that's that's like rob wolf you got to figure that out you know wired to eat it's a game changer it really is very good book but you got to you got to do your fucking homework you know have you seen rob actually puts it into action on his Instagram page.

[1568] Rob Wolf and his wife will eat the exact same thing.

[1569] Then he tests ketone levels and blood sugar levels like at the same time stamp and his and hers are radically different.

[1570] Like she's just better at absorbing stuff.

[1571] Yeah, exactly.

[1572] And so I'm similar to him genetically in that I don't do well with a lot of carbohydrates and like a wide variety.

[1573] I can eat a plate of yams and my blood sugar looks fine.

[1574] But if I have a little bit of white rice, I'm fucking through the roof like pre -diabetic.

[1575] Did you listen to the podcast that I did with Zach Bitter?

[1576] No. He's the guy that holds the world record for running 100 miles in America.

[1577] He ran 100 miles, like literally ran a seven -minute pace for 11 hours.

[1578] Damn.

[1579] Damn.

[1580] Yeah, that's just the only thing that you could say.

[1581] 11 hours and 40 minutes, I think, was the total.

[1582] That is so fucking crazy that you can run 7 -minute miles for 11 hours and 40 minutes.

[1583] just keep going was he in ketosis or was he was he most of the time he's in ketosis he he eats a very uh meat rich diet and he is a fat burner he he's in ketosis all the time he takes all kinds of you know crazy well he was talking about his diet like one of the things that he eats more than anything was steak right that was like his big thing like fatty piece of meat and um when he runs though when he's involved in a race or anything where there's extremely extremely high requirements on his body, then he goes way above, like, ketosis levels of carbohydrates, like hundreds and hundreds of grams.

[1584] During the race, that's totally what you should do.

[1585] I'd ran that 50K after I was on your show last couple years ago.

[1586] He says, what's even more surprising, those bitter trains and competes on almost no carbs.

[1587] At times, carbs account for as little as 5 % of his diet, and Bitter insists that even we non -endurance record holders can do the same.

[1588] Yeah, but remember he was talking about when he did the races, he takes some glucose supplements, right?

[1589] Just an article about his whole diet.

[1590] Yeah, I think he means most of the time.

[1591] Most of the time when it's eating and training and exercising, he's burning almost no carbs.

[1592] Well, that's the goal though.

[1593] Yeah.

[1594] That's metabolic flexibility.

[1595] The goal is, like, if we're from out the gate, we eat carbohydrates every fucking meal until we're 40, we're not making.

[1596] ketones.

[1597] Our body doesn't know how to use fat for fuel.

[1598] If we at least spend a period of time, and that's what I do now.

[1599] I'll spend about six months a year in ketosis with maybe a couple carb days in a whole six months span.

[1600] And then after that, I'll practice some carb backloading, or maybe I'll have, you know, higher carbohydrate days, but I'm still eating higher fat, higher protein throughout that and or moderate protein throughout that.

[1601] That creates flexibility.

[1602] That's what we're designed to do.

[1603] You know, you can argue all you want about what fucking paleo man ate and all that shit.

[1604] But the truth is, before refrigeration, and before shipping, we did not have access to carbohydrates.

[1605] Most of the people on this planet didn't have access for at least three months out of the year, right?

[1606] Yeah.

[1607] So, I mean, there's at least a period of time where we should take off and allow our body to reset and start to burn fat for fuel.

[1608] And then when we go back to eating carbohydrates, we utilize it a little bit better.

[1609] Well, there's also people like the Inuit who didn't eat any vegetables at all.

[1610] Yeah, but I think even with them, two months out of the year, when they'd grow seasonally, they'd eat a little bit more carbohydrates and probably not be fully keto for two months out of the year.

[1611] What do you think they would eat?

[1612] Whatever the fuck grows.

[1613] What could they grow?

[1614] I'm sure two months out of the year, they can grow some shit.

[1615] Man, I don't even know.

[1616] Aren't there spots where they can never grow anything all year round?

[1617] Possibly.

[1618] I don't think it's going to hurt them.

[1619] I disagree with people that think you should be one or the other year around.

[1620] It's like the same dumb ass argument.

[1621] You should only eat plants the rest of your life.

[1622] Yeah.

[1623] Like to be keto the rest of your life, I think you're missing the point.

[1624] The point is to have your body finely tuned and adaptable and able to eat all things.

[1625] Intermittent fasting is a good way to go about that.

[1626] And when I do that regularly, when I get like three or four days in a row, there's a noticeable difference in like the need to eat.

[1627] Like that feeling that inflammation goes down, cognitive function goes up, sleeps improved.

[1628] Yeah, there's a lot of benefits to it for sure.

[1629] Some people are going crazy with it and doing 20 and 4.

[1630] I'm like, wow.

[1631] That's, that's, but it's not a terrible idea.

[1632] Not a terrible idea.

[1633] I interviewed this guy, Todd White, who's the CEO of Dry Farm Wines.

[1634] He does that every fucking day.

[1635] Fast for 20 hours.

[1636] He'll have a bottle or two of the dry farm with his dinner.

[1637] And that's it.

[1638] That's his fucking deal.

[1639] And he's shredded.

[1640] Like I met, I met him at PaleoFX this year.

[1641] And it was curious to me, because everybody that's a part of that is, you know, they're health -oriented.

[1642] They're kind of dialed in.

[1643] At least they're on track.

[1644] They, you know, they work out.

[1645] You can't be a fat guy at a paleo festival.

[1646] Yeah, they pay attention to what they're putting in their body and how they move, right?

[1647] Yeah.

[1648] But at every kiosk or every little booth, not everyone looks the part.

[1649] At this guy's booth, everyone's fucking shredded.

[1650] Everyone's got a giant smile on their face.

[1651] I was like, what's the fucking deal?

[1652] And he's like, well, 18 out of 20 of us are keto.

[1653] Almost all of us do intermittent fasting.

[1654] They have group meditation.

[1655] Not that that would help with fat loss, but I mean, just to say that they're dialed in.

[1656] And group meditation every fucking day at 9 a .m. Their entire company.

[1657] Wow.

[1658] Like, he's a fucking legit guy.

[1659] Damn.

[1660] Group meditation with the whole company.

[1661] With the entire company.

[1662] How many dudes are just thinking about dicks?

[1663] Angry.

[1664] Angry that they have to do group meditation.

[1665] They fucking visualize those guys doing the dick exercises nonstop with the weights.

[1666] To be like, well, my dick looker was circumcised.

[1667] What would it look like for a picture?

[1668] It probably had it had a half an inch.

[1669] Or you could just shoot.

[1670] stem cells into it like greenfield to get the half inch those guys who are doing those like is that a mandatory thing do you have to do it to work at the company do the group meditation i think it's i think it's a requirement yeah i'll be annoying i'd be annoying i think it'd be good once you fucking got into it though even if you didn't learn yeah but maybe i like fucking meditation if somebody carved out like working it on it's fucking amazing because we're not only allowed to work out on the clock but we're encouraged to that's courage to use a sauna.

[1671] We're encouraged.

[1672] There's a fucking meditation room.

[1673] Then I'll go hit and meditate for 30 minutes.

[1674] Like I'm outside with my shirt off barefoot doing Tai Chi and weird shit all the time.

[1675] And that's okay.

[1676] Right.

[1677] So that culture that's created there is awesome.

[1678] There's nap pods at Google for a fucking reason.

[1679] Right.

[1680] So if you had that scheduled end to where you were going to meditate every fucking day on the clock and you knew like this is my time to rest and just get get silent.

[1681] I think over time you'd buy into that.

[1682] Over time, you'd live.

[1683] learn how.

[1684] Or you would say, I'm a fucking accountant and I came to this building to work, not to have some fucking cult member asshole guru who was probably just trying to fuck everybody.

[1685] That guy tell everybody when I can meditate.

[1686] I'll meditate on my own time.

[1687] Motherfucker, I'm here to work.

[1688] I don't need that extra 10 minutes.

[1689] He told me most of the people in his company still have a meditation practice outside off the clock.

[1690] I would tell him that too if I wanted to raise.

[1691] You know, I meditate for four hours when I'm out of here.

[1692] Bro, I meditate about you and how amazing, an amazing leader you are.

[1693] Just, I'll be on my desk.

[1694] Yeah, man, I think it's a great idea.

[1695] I just think there's to be some people that would, well, I guess if you let them know before they took the job, hey man, the only thing we require is 10 minutes of meditation every day.

[1696] You cool with that?

[1697] Yeah, I'll take it.

[1698] But what if you, you know, like, I think people gravitate towards that.

[1699] There's like -minded individuals at every fucking company unless you just, I need money.

[1700] And usually those people get weeded out of the equation.

[1701] Well, on, it's a great example of that.

[1702] When you go there, everybody's super positive, fit, very friendly, very friendly environment.

[1703] Like, there's no dicky.

[1704] They all fucking enjoy what they're doing, too.

[1705] And if they don't, they see themselves out.

[1706] You know?

[1707] Yeah.

[1708] I mean, I think having, there's no company you're ever going to work at where 100 % of the people are fucking dialed in and they're all on the same page and no, we're going to change the world.

[1709] It doesn't work that way.

[1710] But if you have a high percentage that are doing that, that's how you see big changes happen.

[1711] Yeah.

[1712] When you get 100 employees, I mean, you're going to.

[1713] have a little chaos a little bit you know you're going to have that you're going to have did you hear what jen said to mike in front of everybody you're going to have that you're going to have craziness you're going to have people that don't work together well don't like each other because of pre -existing biases because of who knows whatever the fuck it is they remind them of an ex people are weird getting men and women to work together just to pull that off alone you know Yeah, we got HR now it on it.

[1714] That's interesting.

[1715] What's that like?

[1716] I don't know.

[1717] I don't have a comparison because it's my first real job where I get to play an adult.

[1718] So you have a person who's hired to make sure that no shenanigans take place?

[1719] Well, just to create a pipeline for people to talk to one another or a pipeline where you can handle things in an appropriate manner.

[1720] So if someone takes offense to something and we all had to go through this fucking ridiculous and hilarious.

[1721] like 1990 video on uh you know harassment in the workforce shit like that i had to watch those for a couple different tv shows when you when they start a tv show off it's one of the things they do in the beginning they everybody has to go there we all sat in the bleachers like we were there for a uh a show taping and they pull a screen down and they played us this video on harassment Weinstein didn't watch it yes he didn't he's there's no Weinstein character in that video shockingly There it is Yeah, if you I mean, I don't know if that works I guess maybe it works in that people know They can't get away with stuff Well, no, it's just, it's a safe place for people to come talk And it doesn't mean like, oh That's what I mean, I mean those videos Oh, the videos don't do shit How could they work?

[1722] They're comical Who's gonna like say, man, I was about to sexually harass this check But that fucking videos got me thinking Nobody would say that.

[1723] I think people might bite the flip a little bit though if they know there can be repercussions like you don't want i want to fucking lose my job you know what i definitely don't want to lose my i wouldn't want to lose my job if it wasn't on it because i have a family but i definitely don't want to lose this job because it's fucking amazing yeah you know it's an amazing thing to be a part of i don't think that it's uh i mean hmm what am i trying to say here there's no room for fun with people anymore though that's the fucking issue the problem is if you want to cut all sexual harassment which we all do you don't want to cut fun but how do you you know especially like a guy who's saying something that he thinks is funny to a girl and it just really hurts her feelings and he was just trying to be funny like that's in her eyes sexual harassment in his eyes it's a joke but it's even weird everybody's eyes is a disaster yeah and it it goes into all things like I fuck with Aubrey's assistant a lot Ian he's a good buddy of mine and I you know I treat him like my little brother sometimes.

[1724] But it's a joke.

[1725] It is always a joke.

[1726] And so we had this team meeting on the jujitsu mats.

[1727] And he was sitting next to me. And the second we broke after the meeting, I just fucking got on a leg and started cranking.

[1728] I'm like, we're on the fucking mats, bitch, you're mine.

[1729] And I'm digging my knee into his shin, like doing some, you know, like dirty jiu -jitsu.

[1730] And I forgot the leg I was on.

[1731] He had just fucked up in soccer.

[1732] So he, I mean, dude's like, he's on fucking crutches for a minute, you know?

[1733] And I would clown him a little bit about being on crutches and here comes the gimp and he's my boy.

[1734] And then I realized after watching this video, I'm like, oh, that's just as illegal as sexual harassment.

[1735] And so, you know, I'd make a joke about that too.

[1736] Like, you know, Ian, nobody's allowed to make fun of you for being disabled.

[1737] That's against the law.

[1738] And you can go to HR for that.

[1739] So if anybody does that, you know, you can go see something.

[1740] It's okay.

[1741] And that was kind of our, you know, I mean, he's my fucking boy so I can do that.

[1742] But that's still illegal.

[1743] I don't know that I should be saying that right now.

[1744] Well, see, the thing is if you have good friends, you're good, like, it's what we were talking about earlier with, like, comedians.

[1745] Good friends say fucked up shit to each other for fun, and it's fun for both of them because if you have a real friend, do you love each other so much, you know that he doesn't really think terrible things about you, but he could say funny, ridiculous shit like that because it'll make both of you laugh because you know it's not the case.

[1746] But if you thought it any way it was the case that you really were like, mocking him in any way, then it would never be funny.

[1747] Yeah.

[1748] But because you're never capable of that, it's very funny.

[1749] And I don't think, I think the real issue comes down to people who are looking to be offended.

[1750] There's that, but there's also people that are terrible at telling jokes.

[1751] There's people that are terrible at joking around with people and they make people uncomfortable.

[1752] But there's some people in the room that won't laugh at anything.

[1753] You know, they're just fucking looking for shit.

[1754] Right.

[1755] And there's the question, right, if you have a company, like, how the fuck do you decide who to hire and not to hire?

[1756] Because you don't know these people in the beginning.

[1757] Like sometimes people are one thing, and then they get a little power, and then they become something different.

[1758] They just become a different thing.

[1759] And then they get, like, ambitious or who knows, their life changes in some way, and then they get aggressive.

[1760] And then they're a different person.

[1761] Like, hey, who are you that we hired five years ago?

[1762] Now we have to figure out a fucking exit strategy to get you out of the company.

[1763] Fuck, you know, I've seen many friends go sideways on situations like that, where they started doing business together, and then the business takes off or doesn't take off and whatever.

[1764] they're stuck together and then they're not the same person who they were 10 years ago when they started this fucking thing so there's all this weirdness and resentment and you know well hopefully no one's the same person they were 10 years right hopefully you fucking grow and it's a positive thing or that's not always the case could be you growing and them not or them and you not I mean it's not uniform either that's the other thing it's like if you find like -minded people the great thing about it is everyone's trying their best to be a good person to be to take care of their body, they're trying their best.

[1765] There's going to be some hills and valleys and ups and downs, but for the most part, the thought process is about trying to be your best.

[1766] Always, right?

[1767] If you're around those people, like, everybody's going to be okay.

[1768] But if you're around the people that are fucking super negative about stuff and always sabotaging their life and always fucking up things for friends around them and always ruining this and fucking up that, oh, that can be exhausting.

[1769] That can steal your DNA.

[1770] That steals your fucking whatever it is that makes you a person that feeling that you get when you're around someone that's just fucking up all the time where you're like oh it's exhausting that's kind of the deal too where you just you know if it is family or somebody you care about just love them at a distance you know you gotta remove yourself from that you can't get wrapped up there's certain family members that they go crazy and you can't get wrapped up they'll take you down they'll take you down with them you can't live two lives simultaneously you do your best If people want to go crazy, and that's always been my real fear and concern when someone that I know well does the drug thing, goes down the drug hole.

[1771] You know, you see like something like, what are you doing, man?

[1772] Are you doing something?

[1773] No, no, I'm not doing nothing.

[1774] And you're like, oh, no, we got a tweaker over here.

[1775] We lost the home boy, he's tweaking.

[1776] He's not even himself anymore.

[1777] Now he's going to lie to us about whether or not he's taking meth.

[1778] Yeah, I've seen shit like that in college.

[1779] Lost a friend of heroin Well, lost two friends of heroin Gained one back And he got fucking clean It's not fun That's the rough one to witness The people that are willing to stick a needle in their arm Right into the vein There's the romantic thing about it To some people that this is the ultimate Fuck you to safety You know the fuck you The standard Norms the society is Put on you And you stick that needle in you And just Uh Oh, untie the strap.

[1780] Fucking crazy.

[1781] What a crazy thing to do.

[1782] Ari Shafir had a good point on that, though.

[1783] He was looking at, I forget when he was talking about it, but he said he saw a homeless man, and he realized the guy was on some fucked up drugs, and he was like, oh, I get it.

[1784] You were just introduced to the wrong drugs, because Ari does a lot of drugs, but he has drugs that help elevate him and lift him to a new spot and give him new perspective and hope and joy.

[1785] and this other guy just got fucking suck deep down the rabbit hole in the wrong direction.

[1786] Wow.

[1787] Yeah.

[1788] I think in some ways that's true, but in some ways they like the heroin better.

[1789] You know, who was it that had that statement about heroin?

[1790] There was a, I'm not going to remember it, but there was a fascinating statement about heroin killing you.

[1791] That when it was killing you, I think it was Lenny Bruce talking about it.

[1792] but that it was such a sweet death I really forget the quote because heroin is something it freaks me out so much I don't even like reading too much about it I like read a few things here or there about people that are hooked on it it just it creeps me out so much it's almost like I'm reading about demonic possession and in a way I think it is in the way I think with people lose their entire life to some pills they can't stop they lose their family, lose their job and they just can't stop to keep taking it how is that really any different in terms of the overall results and the effect it has on your loved ones and your friends and your family and yourself.

[1793] How is that any different than just a really evil demon that talks you and is staying home all day and makes you throw up and it's just fucking with you all day and making you tired just dragging you to the ground, making you fall asleep right in front of the sink?

[1794] How is that any, if there was a demon doing that?

[1795] You're like, oh my God, look at him.

[1796] He's possessed by a demon.

[1797] That would be horrible.

[1798] If we just saw some kid who was just his body's all fucked up because there's a demon inside of him controlling it but instead we're like oh no he's all fucked up because he shot up he shot up although it's the same thing yeah it grabs people that's the fucking problem though is that you look at that that's it i'll die young but it's like kissing god that was his expression of it damn who died of a morphine overdose on august 3rd 1966 man he's from in my line of work that's the that's the that's the that's the that's the Lucy you know that primordial or whatever how would you call prehistoric human human owned hominoid what was Lucy that was that was that Australia Epithicus or something like that yeah yeah that's what Lenny Bruce is in a lot of ways second you said Lucy I was thinking LSD but oh I know you're talking about LSD they they or Lucy was on the cover of net geo right yeah it was like one of the first like early human uh skeletons they had I think there's some controversy attached to that thing too which there always is to those ancient humans that they find you know you find a fucking human from how long ago was Lucy how many two million two point nine two point nine million let me see a picture that was us just 2 .9 million years ago what the fuck that's crazy would you fuck lucy if i had to for the good of the human race if we need to make people who was asking if they would fuck a neanderthal if that was uh who wasn't did you the answer is yes the answer's fucking yes it happened humans fucking nanderthals what i mean by lennie bruce is this is like he's the first he's not like primitive I mean he was like super advanced but he was the very first version of that, the very first version of a real stand -up comedian.

[1799] Like, that everybody, all lines come from Lenny Bruce.

[1800] I mean, there's a bunch of his contemporaries that were really good, too, and there's a bunch of people from that era that were just all innovative and interesting thinkers, they all I'm sure, fed off of each other, but Lenny Bruce is almost like Lucy.

[1801] He's almost like the first, he's like the first real stand -up comic.

[1802] You know, like, we'd say, like, okay, I get Mark Twain was doing it.

[1803] I understand that all these different people had like a kind of you know, comical way.

[1804] of talking in front of people, but there was something about the way he was analyzing and breaking down society on stage that was, this was the first of those.

[1805] So you watch that and you go, wow, that's like some, it's almost like a scientific discovery.

[1806] It's like, well, this is now this is going to shift the culture this way, because now people are going to be mocking things for entertainment.

[1807] So the other side's going to get way more mocking.

[1808] So you're going to have your serious side, but there's going to be a business and making fun of it now.

[1809] There's a new thing now.

[1810] This is a new thing.

[1811] And that's what that guy was It's kind of a trip And you really stop and think about How influential one person can be You know That one person with some Crazy amount of talent Some weird way of looking at things Can shift Like all I'm sitting across from one right now That's horseshit This guy right here man He was uh He was doing things Play some of this man You better off a lot That's it I'm gonna get a whole bunch of new suits You know I've had the same dumb suit For 10 years You're all gonna her closet, you can't even breathe.

[1812] That's it.

[1813] I'll get a whole bunch of your suits.

[1814] I'll get a chick that likes to hang out.

[1815] I'll get a, I'll have no vodka parties.

[1816] That's modern.

[1817] Bodka parties, swing it up, haul it up.

[1818] I'll get a chip.

[1819] I got a chick who likes to drink.

[1820] Boy, my wife sure used to look good standing up against the sink.

[1821] She's the lowest, though.

[1822] I really put her down.

[1823] No, no, I really miss her.

[1824] I don't want some sharp chick that can quote Kerouac.

[1825] and walk with poise.

[1826] I just want to hear my old lady say, get up and fix the sink.

[1827] It's still making noise.

[1828] All alone.

[1829] All alone.

[1830] It's the song.

[1831] Like a near -sighted dog wears the bone.

[1832] Ah, but it's better to be all alone.

[1833] No more taking out the garbage, hear her yacking on the phone.

[1834] I gave her everything.

[1835] even my mother's ring but to me she was so petty sometimes I wish that she were dead but it'll probably take her two hours to get ready what the fuck this is probably like I would have to guess like 1960 what year was that does it say I wonder when that was it's got to be somewhere in that neighborhood but that guy and big heroin problem man big big big heroin problem and he was also fighting against censorship he was like one of the first people that was a public speaker that was challenging the ideas of censorship in court he was getting arrested for doing his nightclub performances and saying certain words you know and he was talking about how ridiculous it is to put all the power in these words including racist words this is like nobody was doing anything like this back then it was crazy shit and a lot of what he was doing um demeaning obscenity yeah a lot of what he was doing was you know he was a big believer and expanding his consciousness he was getting fucked up a lot he's you know he's doing obviously doing heroin because he died of it talked about it pretty openly but who knows what else he was doing too i think marijuana was involved in there too he's expanding his mind in a strange time i think it's impossible for us to really put ourselves in the mindset of people who lived in the 1950s and early 1960s I think I don't even think we're capable of doing it no we have like a VH1 depiction of that did you ever see the the decades yeah where they went through the 60s the 70s the 80s the 90s that was pretty fucking rad pretty fucking rad but that's still a Hollywood version of it 100 % you know you like even when they get to the 80s you know like cocaine's resurgence and it's all fucking Madonna and Prince it's so silly back to the future and shit like that I don't think we imagine what it would have been like growing up then you know living in his era like people were so buttoned down to have some guy come along go why why are we doing it like this you know he was um that's a crazy thing the stand -up comedy started in america really did i mean there was definitely gestures and you know king arthur's days and all that bullshit and from the beginning of time people have had court gestures and there's always been funny people in the village that everybody gathered around like a joey dyes type character that lived somewhere but this the art of stand -up comedy like that was the first and i i think i mean maybe i'm wrong maybe it's mark twain but if it's not if it's not mark twain it's him you know that was the first one where people started wanting to be that and then they kind of like there was a lot of that coming off of that you know like these these little branches get taken off the main river and culture occasionally, you know, and I think a lot of that was what I was reading in the Malcolm Gladwell, a book that I was talking about earlier.

[1836] What's the tipping point?

[1837] Tipping point.

[1838] It's all about different trends, like real specific stuff, like what caused this uptick in syphilis in one part of the country, and like what caused, like, what are these, all these factors that fall in place that all work synergistically and push something over the top?

[1839] How did hush puppies go from a business that was like almost bankrupt to being something that like everywhere?

[1840] And then there's in two years they had stores open in every mall.

[1841] And they were closed.

[1842] I mean, they were open for decades without this kind of success.

[1843] And something happened and they became this hip thing to have hush puppies on.

[1844] And then boom, the business just explodes out of nowhere.

[1845] And did these weird moments like that.

[1846] Sometimes like an Elon Musk type character comes along and just, oh, I want to fucking put people on Mars.

[1847] I want to an electric car i want to put shoot tunnels under the ground like one of these characters comes along and then through them there's like this new river and all this new crazy shit happens that guy was that would that guy was probably the the number one for stand -up comedy for that fucking massive yeah pretty crazy shit dude you ever see uh who was the name of it this is the touring the touring the touring test the touring the touring test is the whether or not you could tell if artificial intelligence is human.

[1848] Yeah, it's not the touring test.

[1849] It's the movie about the guy who invented the computer touring.

[1850] Oh.

[1851] The British dude.

[1852] Oh, wait, are you talking about X -Machin or like the one about it, like the imitation game or something like that?

[1853] The imitation game, yeah.

[1854] It's fucking nuts to think, like, if you watch that movie, and obviously, have you seen it?

[1855] No. The imitation game.

[1856] It's awesome.

[1857] That guy's a great, a great fucking actor, too.

[1858] I'm writing the shit down right now.

[1859] It's Dr. Strange.

[1860] Yeah, Benedict Cumberbatch.

[1861] He's a savage But they go through that In that time period He fucking invents the fucking computer You know And then they go through the time period And he's gay In Britain And they put him on medication That lowers his testosterone So he won't be gay So he won't have sex with men It's fucking insane That's a hilarious technique But if you think about like people Who move the fucking needle right Like people that change Shift like If that's where it comes from Computers And then we get to fucking Hyperintelligence super intelligent AI it all started there that is crazy like one well there was a bunch of different factions right a bunch of different people that were working on computers because a woman created the very first computer code yeah forget what her name was well there's two there's two pivotal inventions by women in in computer design and then ultimately and in the actual execution of it here it is ada lovelace it's been called the world's first computer programmer.

[1862] What she did was write the world's first machine algorithm for an early computing machine that existed only on paper.

[1863] Of course, someone had to be the first, but Lovelace was a woman, and this was in the 1840s.

[1864] Damn!

[1865] Suck it!

[1866] Suck it!

[1867] Stupid people!

[1868] Suck it!

[1869] Ada!

[1870] Ada was rocking shit in the 1800s.

[1871] She was figuring it out.

[1872] Imagine you'd be like, look, one day they're going to be able to do this, but right now they don't want to do it.

[1873] But one day, if they just figure out how to do this, This is this.

[1874] And we're going to have computers.

[1875] And the computers will operate on this algorithm.

[1876] And people are looking at you like, bitch, what the fuck are you talking about?

[1877] Computers.

[1878] Like, imagine how what a hell it would be to be a super, super genius living amongst the cave people.

[1879] You're like, you fucks.

[1880] We could be flying around if you assholes knew how to melt aluminum.

[1881] Can you guys get me some glass?

[1882] You don't know glass?

[1883] Shit!

[1884] Do you have any wires?

[1885] You have no wire.

[1886] Okay.

[1887] Where do you get your metal?

[1888] You don't have metal?

[1889] What?

[1890] shit do you imagine if you were looking at metal in the ground like why don't they just pull the metal out and make things out of that and they're like and you're like what's the point what's the point making a house what's the point what's the point having glass windows that look out at these cave people fucking each other and stabbing mastodons in the dick with flint tip tools fuck imagine what a hell that would be that would be like the worst thing you could do to somebody like imagine if one day they come up with a time machine and one of the punishments for people that were real pieces of shit is you would throw them in front of Gingas Khan's horde in like 1 ,200 AD you would just like take your underwear, you're in your underwear, everybody knows it's going to happen, you have a chance to live, if you just might get lucky, might teleport into the right spot and not get slaughtered and eaten by the Mongols as they come over the top of the hill, but we're going to put you right in front of them.

[1891] And, you know, good luck, you piece of shit, And it's fucking transported with a time machine.

[1892] I mean, if they do come up with the ability to do that to people one day, like an actual time machine.

[1893] That would be the biggest hell ever.

[1894] Take a person from 2018 who's used to driving around in his Tesla and checking his text every five minutes.

[1895] And no, we're going to let you live.

[1896] We're going to let you live.

[1897] But you're going to live in 1 ,200 AD.

[1898] No doctors.

[1899] There's no doctors.

[1900] What the fuck is a doctor?

[1901] What are you talking about, man?

[1902] You got to run.

[1903] You got to run.

[1904] coming over the hill you smell that yeah that's people burning you smell people burning they're like candles run just fucking run but you're alive that was the punishment yeah that'd be you know that would be crazy imagine if somebody raped you and you get to decide what year they come back where they have to go yeah just send this motherfucker back to the dinosaur era good luck you cunt and then they're they're they're gonna be by themselves 65 million years ago how many people would say yes to that like how many people say yes well we could do one thing Bernie made off we can either put you in jail for the rest of your life or you get freedom in prehistoric central asia what would you do I'd take the death by prehistoric central Asia all day you gotta fucking live all day you gotta live from me in Siberia if I die there I die there yeah at least I'm not in a fucking cage until my heart stops beating 100 % I'd take that all day I'll roll the dice I'll roll the dice it'll suck I'll die for sure but I'll die running or or trying to get away or you know or I'll break a leg you know I'm not gonna die in that box that's the craziest thing about you don't you just decide when someone has crossed some line that you're gonna take you out of circulation and we're just going to cool you in this little cage we're going to hope you get better when we let you out in 15 years like what a stupid idea it's not working that's how you know it's a stupid idea it's not working for anyone you want to protect people from violent offenders that's primary right violent offenders people who want to rob people or murder people or rape people or assault people that is like the number one thing is we want everybody to be safe i love jamie i don't want jamie to have to worry when he walks down the street that this guy they locked up 10 times going to jump out the bushes and take his knees out with a baseball bat for no fucking reason other than he's crazy right you don't want that no one he wants that so we all agree you got to lock up rapists and murderers and all that but after that after get to after get past that it's like hmm what what good does it do to get that guy that cheated on his taxes why do you put him in a cage for a year Why don't you let him work and pay you back?

[1905] Like, why is he in a cage for a year?

[1906] That seems like you're punishing him.

[1907] Like you're just trying to torture him and steal a year of his life.

[1908] But he just owes you money.

[1909] He doesn't owe you a year of his life.

[1910] How much is a year of your life worth?

[1911] It's worth fucking billions of dollars.

[1912] A year of your life?

[1913] Fuck you, man. You can't take a year of someone's life.

[1914] That's crazy.

[1915] But if you owe taxes, I go, I'd like a year of your life, sir.

[1916] Or if you're fucking selling plants.

[1917] Selling plants or worse.

[1918] You're one of those people that didn't send the envelope, and you're trying to bring someone that 4 ,000 pounds of cocaine over.

[1919] What would be a good deterrent for some from, to stop something?

[1920] I don't think there's, I think education is the real deterrent.

[1921] You have to catch them, and there has to be punishment.

[1922] Like, if you owe people money, there should be reparations.

[1923] You should, like, if you, if you were involved in some sort of a banking scheme and you rip people off, you should have to pay those people back, period.

[1924] You should have, you should be responsible for that.

[1925] after that you're assuming that someone's capable of growing and sometimes we don't like to do that it's very convenient to assume that someone is in a static state and they're never going to grow oh this old banker asshole he's just a rich old cunt and this is how he's going to die fuck him there's that thing but he's a human being and even if he lived his life fucking people over on those you know those weird mortgage situation loans that were going on what were those things called those adjustable arm Yeah, the adjustable mortgages that people got fucked on because they signed up for them and they were a really low rate and then all of a sudden the rate jacked up through the roof and they were just inevitably going to lose their house and this was like something that people knew about it before.

[1926] Even the people that organized that kind of shit, even knowing, they can grow.

[1927] It's a horrible thing they did.

[1928] But they, to say that they're done.

[1929] Fuck them, lock them up forever.

[1930] My grandma lost her house.

[1931] It's terrible that your grandma lost her house and whoever the fuck benefited from your grandma losing the house, they should all have to give that money back too.

[1932] We should figure out how the fuck that they allow these banks to weasel people like that.

[1933] You're not looking out for anybody's best interest when you do something like that.

[1934] And obviously they didn't know they were going to, the rates were going to get as high as they got where people were in terrible situations, but they should have, they should have known something was coming.

[1935] You hit the point, though, that they should have been paid back.

[1936] Yeah, they should have been paid back.

[1937] None of those fucking people got paid back.

[1938] It doesn't matter how long you lock them up for.

[1939] Like, nobody fucking got their house back.

[1940] Yeah.

[1941] Everyone got fucked over.

[1942] And even people that were involved in the organization.

[1943] that were probably responsible in part for the recession, which fucked everything up.

[1944] Those people all got bonuses when there was bailouts.

[1945] The whole thing is...

[1946] The bailout should have been for fucking everybody who lost their home.

[1947] For sure.

[1948] For sure.

[1949] It shouldn't...

[1950] The bailout most certainly shouldn't have gone to...

[1951] I know that they have to pay these people, these bonuses, because these bonuses are in their contract.

[1952] But that's still crazy.

[1953] It's still crazy.

[1954] Even if it's in the contract.

[1955] I mean, the government's got to bail you guys out.

[1956] You guys are a failed business.

[1957] it's banks a failed business and you're still going to try to claim that you guys did so well that you need a bonus like this is great and you're going to take that taxpayer money and apply it to your bonus so all those poor people out there working fifty thousand dollars a year you're going to just take a giant what what's a good one for one of those guys guys what's a good one what's a good bonus what do you think it's like the biggest bonus that one of those banker guys got during the bailout if you had a hundred million is it that high I don't think it's that I got it.

[1958] 30 million at least.

[1959] That's what the JP Morgan guy got last year.

[1960] 30 million?

[1961] What did you get?

[1962] 30?

[1963] Last year, yeah.

[1964] Oh, but wait a minute.

[1965] No, we're not in a recession, though.

[1966] Like, they were getting it at the end of Bush's term, right?

[1967] So that was 2009?

[1968] 2008, he got 16 million.

[1969] Someone got 16 million.

[1970] Same guy.

[1971] So you got 16 million during the bailouts.

[1972] Well.

[1973] And his worst year, he got 20 million.

[1974] Baller.

[1975] we think his house looks like it's probably made out of cocaine it's probably like an igloo it walks by and licks the walls here's the real question you give the average person 25 million bucks they don't have to work again ever you know this guy's making 20 million bucks every year or more probably with all these bonuses right like what when do you get out like how much do you have to have in the bank before you go you know what I'm just going to fucking live frugally and never work again that guy does not need to live frugally he doesn't even any of but i mean for most folks like what's the number that you'd have to get to where you're like check please yeah i don't know what the whatever that driving forces though to attain that that doesn't just magically go away you know it's not like you get to that point and you're like all right now i can retire like what do you fucking do in retirement look at the people who continue to work you have a thousand things you love to do right and you're good at them and you're good at them and you're obsessed with them other people don't have that all they know is their job all they know is to work and they don't they have a hard time integrating when they come out of that you know you have to have something that gives your life meaning and purpose yeah that's true um it's hard for people to take up new hobbies too but really fun that's the thing about learning stuff getting good at stuff when you suck there's a little you know there's a period the beginning where it's frustrating but once you if you do do like anything no matter what it is especially physical stuff something about getting good at things it's very rewarding you know not enough people go through that not enough people i think try new shit out and i think there's also new pathways that get opened in your brain the more you try something new that you suck at and when you start off from that beginner phase and try to like put it together and i think the the little journey of the beginner phase getting good at i think we should try something new once a year i really do i mean maybe more but for me it can't be more than once a year because i get too crazy about stuff for me once a year is like i'm I might be able to squeeze something in once a year and try it out for a little while and not let it overcome all the things I'm already crazy about, you know.

[1976] How often do you go hunting?

[1977] Well, it's usually in the fall for elk, and then usually we do something in the early spring, we go to Lanai, and we hunt for access deer.

[1978] That's like that gets you ready for bow hunting because they're really deep.

[1979] difficult to hunt.

[1980] They're really fast.

[1981] I just found out that Axis is 24 -7 in Texas.

[1982] 24 -7.

[1983] Yeah, you can hunt them all day long.

[1984] But they have a real problem in the fact that they, especially in Lanai, they have no predators.

[1985] There's nothing.

[1986] At least in Texas, they have mountain lions.

[1987] And, I mean, maybe coyotes are a situation for fawns.

[1988] I think, I would imagine coyotes get some fawns, but they don't really have many bear to speak of.

[1989] Texas, although I think Texas is seeing a resurgence in black bear population.

[1990] They're starting to see sightings of black bear.

[1991] Check to see if that's true.

[1992] That would kill off some.

[1993] They kill off a shitload of deer, little bears or little calves and fons, deer fons and cow elk calves.

[1994] When a cow elk, rather, gives a calf, bears get those fuckers all the time.

[1995] They get like half of them.

[1996] Half of the fawns born.

[1997] Damn.

[1998] Yeah, they smell it a mile away.

[1999] They have like insane.

[2000] sense of smell they can tune in to like when when people shoot guns and kill an animal they think it's like a dinner bell like there's a real issue with that in like certain places where people hunt or there's bears once you shoot something they go oh i'm going that way i'm just going to take whatever the fuck they shot and that'll be mine now and they can smell the guts as soon as you start cleaning a deer they smell it like way the fuck away from you might be going home with a bear and an exes deer yeah i don't know if they here black bear spotted in another to Texoma town yeah there it is that's a fucking black bear imagine if you didn't know the bears existed there and you were out in the woods at night you saw that thing you'd be like it's a fucking werewolf you know they have video of it up there i think it's just the picture on the trail camera river that is oh i see yeah so now they know yep that's definitely a bear yeah they they travel fascinating animals man i mean if they weren't real you know what a what an interesting thing that would be in fiction especially like grizzlies codiac bears you know i mean if they didn't exist what a what a crazy creation that would be in a movie and just seeing a bear you're like what the fuck is that thing you know it's a star wars animal well just being up close to one totally different ballgame have you ever seen one in the wild No, when we were, I went to the Kenai River in Alaska for salmon fishing on a bachelor party.

[2001] And in one of the tiny airports there, before we got in, they had a full size.

[2002] Oh.

[2003] And I was like, good fucking God.

[2004] I had no idea.

[2005] Like, no idea how big it was.

[2006] Same with moose, though.

[2007] Like, I had no idea.

[2008] What's the matter, Jamie?

[2009] This happened here.

[2010] A woman says she stabbed bear during attack in California Park.

[2011] Yeah, they have Black Bear in...

[2012] Los Angeles.

[2013] Los Angeles.

[2014] Pacific Coast Trail on Los Angeles.

[2015] What?

[2016] Watch your shit, Joe Rogan.

[2017] I freaked out.

[2018] Holy shit.

[2019] A popular park in California is back open Friday after a woman said she was attacked by a bear and had to stab it in order to escape.

[2020] Los Angeles County Sheriff's officials say the attack was reported at about noon Thursday on the Pacific Coast Trail in Los Angeles area of Vasquez Park's Rocks Park.

[2021] Where's Vasquez rocks?

[2022] I'm about to find out.

[2023] Holy shit, dude.

[2024] Look at this.

[2025] She was hiking on the trail, and she turned around after seeing what appeared to be bear droppings.

[2026] A short time later, she heard something behind her head and turned to see a small black bear approaching her at a fast pace.

[2027] She pulled a knife from her backpack and stabbed the bear in the left shoulder, which made it stop and run away, authorities say.

[2028] The hiker was scratched on her waist, on her wrist, but she refused medical treatment.

[2029] Holy shit, this bitch is gangster.

[2030] She stabbed it.

[2031] bear and she's a first in LA to stab a bear that girl's ready though respect right I mean she pulled that fucking knife out stabbed that bear and the bear scratched her and she's like I'm good I don't need to go to a fucking pussy -ass doctor I just stabbed a bear motherfucker where is it is it off the 10 what is that near palmdale oh interesting that's not Los Angeles yeah it's like north of here okay near Palmdale Palmdale is way out there man Where's Palmdale?

[2032] Okay, it's halfway between here and Palmdale.

[2033] Go back out again a little bit?

[2034] Where's some of the streets of the cities?

[2035] Angeles Forest.

[2036] It's right between.

[2037] Oh, okay.

[2038] So it's near where the two is, right?

[2039] Yeah, just north of Burbank.

[2040] Oh, okay.

[2041] Is that the two?

[2042] This is the 14.

[2043] This is the five, and then this is the...

[2044] Okay.

[2045] That Angel's Crest Highway is gorgeous up there.

[2046] That's where Jay Leno does all of his stuff when he takes cars up there and does that Jay Leno's garage shit and drives up there.

[2047] Fucking beautiful.

[2048] up there.

[2049] God.

[2050] It's crazy.

[2051] So that's where the bear was.

[2052] That makes sense.

[2053] There's bears up there.

[2054] There's bears in Santa Barbara, believe it or not.

[2055] I believe it.

[2056] It's mountainous, right?

[2057] Yeah, people find bears out there.

[2058] You spent time in there.

[2059] Santa Barbara?

[2060] Yeah.

[2061] Yeah.

[2062] Yeah.

[2063] I love it out there.

[2064] It's gorgeous.

[2065] You know, it's real unfortunate what happened in this last mudslide.

[2066] Do you know about that?

[2067] A lot of people died in a mudslide.

[2068] I heard about that.

[2069] Mild Man, I think it was last year he lives in the Santa Cruz mountains and he was fucking trapped like not in his home but in his small town for two weeks whoa because the road that leads to the 17 how you get from Santa Cruz to San Jose yeah completely shut down tons of mudslides that's right and the PCH was shut down for a long stretch right I think it still is I think it's still down I think the stretch of the stretch of highway that takes that'll take you from like San Luis Obispo all the way up to San Francisco.

[2070] That's the PCH, right?

[2071] Yeah, yeah.

[2072] There's a spot, like, well, on the way to Big Sur, there's a spot where I don't think you can get through it anymore.

[2073] I think it's still fucked up.

[2074] See if that thing is still closed.

[2075] But it was a giant stretch that got wiped out.

[2076] Like, they had these photos of before and after.

[2077] It's like, imagine seeing that go down.

[2078] Imagine being in your little fucking MG convertible.

[2079] I'm zipping along.

[2080] Look at the ocean.

[2081] Boy, life is grand.

[2082] And you see this fucking.

[2083] mountain coming down just you you know this is it this is it this is how it's going to go it's back open now oh they opened in january how long did it take to uh reopen it i don't know it's been open for earlier this year ah nice that's good oh how did they ever did they say how they figured it out because there was some questions is whether or not they were going to dig it out or whether they're going to put a new road over the top of the dirt that's there now road tripping hipsters oh is that what it says where's this is it that road -tripping hipsters vacation families that's what a weird thing to say residents survived by creating hiking trails that enabled people to bypass the highway closures by foot and those courageous enough to drive could take on the nascento nascimento ferguson road with its hairpin turns and steep drops yikes it crosses a santa lucia range and connects the big surcoast with route 101 further inland Given the challenges, several tourism businesses simply closed up shop for the summer.

[2084] Wow.

[2085] Imagine having a hike for food and shit.

[2086] And you realize like, oh my God, we live on Big Sur.

[2087] Like, we're trapped.

[2088] What are we thinking?

[2089] What the fuck are we thinking?

[2090] The earth wasn't going to move.

[2091] You wouldn't have a knife on you or...

[2092] What would you do?

[2093] You wouldn't have shit.

[2094] You wouldn't have shit.

[2095] You'd be out there with your Birkenstocks on.

[2096] Talking about your next ayahuasca session.

[2097] Next thing you know, you know, you know, see that mountain coming down on you.

[2098] Yikes.

[2099] Looking through your fanny pack saying, like, where's all the functional shit in my utility belt right now?

[2100] I don't even have a key.

[2101] Like, at least you can have an old -school key.

[2102] You can kind of cut things a little bit with a key.

[2103] Most people don't even have a fucking key anymore.

[2104] Keyless entry cards.

[2105] You have fobs.

[2106] You have a key for your house.

[2107] And you get a fob for everything else.

[2108] Fucking fobs.

[2109] How long before we wear those things?

[2110] I have one in my wallet.

[2111] I have a Lexus, and it's a card.

[2112] My key is a card.

[2113] Card entry.

[2114] Yeah.

[2115] You just keep it in the wallet.

[2116] Keeping in the wallet.

[2117] Yeah.

[2118] I like that.

[2119] Yeah, it's great.

[2120] Yeah.

[2121] So you always have your wallet.

[2122] You always have your card.

[2123] That's better because even with all the keyless entry shit now, like it's still got a spot for it in my fanny pack.

[2124] It's still taking way more space than it needs to.

[2125] Yeah, way more, right?

[2126] Phone is close to being one.

[2127] She just didn't have to have that screen with you all the time.

[2128] Imagine if you could program your phone, though, to open up your car and then someone steals your phone, then they steal your car.

[2129] I can.

[2130] I mean, you can with the BMW app.

[2131] Oh, you'd have to open.

[2132] You can unlock.

[2133] You can unlock my car.

[2134] I can make a beat from here.

[2135] I can turn the air conditioning on and ventilate it.

[2136] That's savage.

[2137] Dude.

[2138] I didn't know that was possible.

[2139] It tells you where you parked.

[2140] Look at you.

[2141] God damn.

[2142] I don't even know they could do that yet.

[2143] Turn that shit on.

[2144] Kyle Kingsbury, we're living in the goddamn future.

[2145] We are.

[2146] We are.

[2147] There's no doubt.

[2148] You guys are setting up the fucking little AI machine out there right now.

[2149] Oh, that's not AI.

[2150] That's virtual reality.

[2151] Yeah.

[2152] There's a big difference.

[2153] That's a vibe.

[2154] Yeah, but it's soon enough, you're going to interact with shit that's going to be, it's going to change the world.

[2155] I think someone needs to set up like a Muay game on that vibe.

[2156] Like they have a boxing game.

[2157] Someone needs to set something up with kicks, you know, and have someone who kicks at you, you know?

[2158] That'd have to alter your technique a little bit.

[2159] Yeah, because you're falling through on the kicks and all that shit.

[2160] Like it teaches people to point spar.

[2161] It does, but it wouldn't be your, if it wasn't your only training.

[2162] if it was your only training you know like a lot of Thai guys go light anyway when they spar when they spar tie style they're playing with each other you can kind of do that with this and just do it fast and then as long as you did like pad work and real sparring on top of it I bet it would add I bet it would add something just makes sense you're constantly you're constantly being reacting but there would be no consequences right like you're not even feeling but you would you would constantly be reacting to movement and you would get it to react to you but there would be no consequences so you could do it all the time not worry about like hurting yourself and you also wouldn't worry about like getting hit so you'd be a little freer with your motions I think if they...

[2163] That would have to be another human playing you though because if it's just fucking some computer I mean they got to write it in an algorithm on how often the faint works how often it doesn't like if it didn't if it wasn't scared it wouldn't give a shit it would just block everything and destroy you well it knows where your body is right perfect distance so it has to have some sort of, yeah, you would have a haptic fucking jumpsuit on.

[2164] You'd have a haptic like wet suit.

[2165] Like all the way to the top.

[2166] And so you get hit with like an inside lead kick, you'd hear the slap.

[2167] You'd feel that slap on the inside of your thigh.

[2168] Like, woo.

[2169] You know, it's not perfect.

[2170] But I think there would be something real beneficial about that.

[2171] Just constantly moving and constantly reacting to this thing in front of you.

[2172] You would just put in a lot of reps that way.

[2173] Gaging distance.

[2174] Yeah.

[2175] A lot of reps. But it It would be interesting to know, like, would it know when you really hit it with stuff?

[2176] Like, if you're not hitting anything?

[2177] What about, like, when are you getting jammed?

[2178] You know, when are you hitting it and when are you too close?

[2179] Yeah, like the power meter.

[2180] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2181] Yeah, you land at the kick.

[2182] It shouldn't, it's not all kicks are the same.

[2183] Does it count the same just because you make contact?

[2184] Yeah, if someone, if you go to throw a front kick and someone's here and you get your knee up high and then you push into it, that's a big difference between the guy being here.

[2185] And you're just like kind of falling backwards.

[2186] Like, does it know?

[2187] It pushes you back versus pushes him back.

[2188] That's huge with sparring, having a good sense of distance.

[2189] I wonder how it knows that, like exactly where your foot lands.

[2190] I think some of the coolest shit that I've seen with that is like the artwork you can do in those worlds.

[2191] It's not exactly.

[2192] This is crude of what you guys are talking about.

[2193] It's called drunken fist fight.

[2194] The guy's going to grab a pool stick and crack that guy?

[2195] No, actually it's froze there, yes.

[2196] Oh, whoa.

[2197] So they're sort of reacting to him.

[2198] but like it right now the VR thing's only tracking the sensors so that you have to have a haptic suit that has sensors in it and I don't think they're quite they're quite that far yet you know what I mean right there'll be a lot of sensors and right now that thing's only tracking the headset and the two things you put on your hands yeah you can add more of those to like maybe put it on your foot or something like that but it's not it's like just tracking it in space so it's not it's not tracking impact or speed or maybe a little bit of speed I suppose yeah this is super crude give it 10 years yeah but you need lots of sensors I don't even know what you would need to track an impact oh so you're in a bar and you're supposed to be fighting these guys in a bar yeah this is just super simple but like these are just programmed you know like AI bots that are just like watching a swipe of a hand near its face and they've just programmed that little movement as all so you get I don't know I would say it long time away but maybe not I think the real move one day is AI robots that know jujitsu and go at like 50 % speed that would have to be the case you've been watching west world no i watched the first episode of the new season and i haven't i've been i'm on a kimmy smit kick what's that unbreakable kimmy smit it's a hilarious show on netflix about a chick who is stuck in a a bomb shelter with a religious cult for 15 years she comes out she doesn't know shit about the world it's really funny man it's a tina fay's show oh okay it's not uh it's a netflix show yeah yeah yeah It's a comedy.

[2199] So I take little breaks.

[2200] I go Vikings.

[2201] I never got into Vikings.

[2202] Damn, it's good.

[2203] I heard it's good.

[2204] You give it a few episodes.

[2205] That shit heats up around episode four.

[2206] It's a good goddamn show.

[2207] Yeah, season two of Westworld heats up around episode four.

[2208] I watched the first episode and I've just been busy.

[2209] It's damn good.

[2210] I like that.

[2211] Just anything that gets me to think about consciousness, what that is, what it can be.

[2212] And then where our future's at, I don't want to, I wish you had seen it.

[2213] I wanted to fucking die.

[2214] the woman who plays uh the main character what is her name she was i forget she the actual actor something wood madeline she's a beast so good she's a great actress she's so good she's so good she was married to uh what's his name right the um the goth dude marilyn manson yes um rachel wood rachel wood rachel wood evan rachel wood woods with an ass a wood wood wood even rachel wood she does an amazing job of getting you convinced that she's both a person and a robot.

[2215] It's really creepy.

[2216] Like she just nails it.

[2217] Like there's other people in the show that are great.

[2218] It's a lot of great people in the show, but for whatever reason, her combination and that the British, the lady with the British accent.

[2219] Maeve.

[2220] Is that her name?

[2221] Mave.

[2222] She's a beast.

[2223] Yeah, her.

[2224] Phenomenal.

[2225] Same thing.

[2226] Like there's a scene with her.

[2227] I don't want to, Spoiler alert.

[2228] Her talking to another one of these robots about her daughter.

[2229] And you're like, Jesus Christ, this is so fascinating because the writing is so goddamn good and then the acting is so goddamn good that it has this weird effect where you know they're kind of fucked up for people, but they're not really people.

[2230] But they seem very people like there's just a perfect amount of off.

[2231] Just the perfect amount of like what in the fuck are you?

[2232] well you get to see him learn too yeah and figure out dude what it means to be conscious anything anthony hopkins is in i'm down i'm down too did you have you finished uh uh wild wild country no no i went episode one and i was like i don't even know if i could do this oh you have i'm going back i'm going back don't worry i'm going back i've seen a little break oh man i got real life shit to do man i'll get back to i promise i just that that there's something about cults and there's something about, like, seeing people just hook, line, and sinker, roll out the red carpet, here he comes, here he comes, that stuff freaks me out.

[2233] That stuff freaks me out.

[2234] I think because I've seen it, I've seen it with martial arts especially, I've seen it with a lot of, a lot of the old school martial arts schools were very culty, very culty.

[2235] You know, I don't know if you follow McDojo life on Instagram.

[2236] Oh, dude.

[2237] I'm just going to give you a treat here.

[2238] Mendojo Life is an awesome collection of the fakedest martial arts you've ever seen in your life.

[2239] And something about these videos is so goddamn compelling because these people who are the students, they know the shit does not really work, but they pretend that it works because they're just, they're in a cult, you know?

[2240] And this guy's like teaching people, like if someone comes to grab him, like to try to take him down, some wrestler.

[2241] Check it out.

[2242] He's going to put his hand here.

[2243] Give me some volume on this, Jamie.

[2244] Okay.

[2245] Small intestine are you in?

[2246] Small intestine.

[2247] He's going to get it right from the neck.

[2248] And take the bladder point.

[2249] Right along the center of the scapule.

[2250] Just making shit up.

[2251] Dude, just making shit up.

[2252] Look at Homeboy's mustache behind him.

[2253] He comes in, he touches him, hits him here.

[2254] That's all you need to do, bro.

[2255] Kane Velasquez shoots that power devil.

[2256] Just put that left hand.

[2257] Look at that.

[2258] He just caoed him.

[2259] He caoed him, bro.

[2260] Get him up.

[2261] This is important.

[2262] Wow.

[2263] He smacks the shit out of him.

[2264] And this guy really believes this.

[2265] That's an anti -gracy move.

[2266] He says, bitch, try that.

[2267] Try that on Henzo, you fucking dummy.

[2268] There's so many of these, but this guy has like an awesome collection of them.

[2269] Look at this.

[2270] The guy gets out and throw the.

[2271] everybody to the ground.

[2272] Hiya, I am a master.

[2273] They go.

[2274] Just walk at this, man. They're all grabbing him, and he's like, but I have superpowers, and you don't.

[2275] They might as well be five.

[2276] They might as well be five -year -olds on a playground, and one of them pretends he's Dr. Strange.

[2277] You grab me, I'm going to send you back to Mordor.

[2278] That's the first guy just goes straight forward, didn't even move for him.

[2279] Yeah, it's so stupid.

[2280] It's so stupid, but this is what I'm saying.

[2281] These are cults.

[2282] there's something about this shit that freaks me the fuck out and my martial arts school that I started out in Taekwendo school was very strict as a lot of discipline it wasn't really culty but it was a little everyone is they're all a little culty they're all little culty with this master and mister and all that stuff there's always a little bit of that but we would go to tournaments and then we would see it full on just full on cults like one guy would be the Kung Fu master and have all his students and they'd all be at his command and he'd be telling them what to do and they'd scream it out and shit just like karate kid there's a lot of them man there's hundreds of these weird little schools that were run by people that were running their own little cults but at least at least at the tournaments like you guys are getting actually fucking compete right yeah so the kids even though they're they're like dogs they're well trained you know they always listen yes sir yes sir they still get to get on the mat and they experience lost they experience some form of fucking real worldness right for sure it's not like the shit on McDojo.

[2283] Yeah.

[2284] No, but it's what's stunning about McDojo life is how many of them there are.

[2285] I mean, there's and they're making videos.

[2286] This is the thing.

[2287] These people, like, scroll, just scroll and show how many videos this guy's got up.

[2288] I mean, who, I don't even know how many.

[2289] There's probably hundreds.

[2290] But the thing is, this is just what's on video, man. I don't understand how the people that come to these places they don't ask for competition.

[2291] They don't ask to see somebody.

[2292] They don't know any better, man. Do they always, but is it always like, You know, oh, if I did this to a man, he'd die.

[2293] Look at this one.

[2294] Is that what everyone believes?

[2295] Look at this one.

[2296] This guy, when a guy has a knife to his neck, he's going to smush the guy's hand with his chin.

[2297] Watch this.

[2298] He's going to make the guy tap.

[2299] Check this out.

[2300] The guy's got a knife right to his neck.

[2301] And he's like, but what you need to do, try it on me. As soon as he gets that knife near me, not the same spot, bitch.

[2302] That's not the same spot.

[2303] Right?

[2304] Watch this.

[2305] He's like, okay.

[2306] I give up, but I will take my hand, and then my chin will make your hand hurt like this.

[2307] Watch this guy.

[2308] This is dumbest shit.

[2309] Hurry up and get to it.

[2310] Here he goes.

[2311] Look, he's making him tap.

[2312] He's grabbing his own hand.

[2313] See, he grabs his own head.

[2314] Oh, oh.

[2315] Look at that.

[2316] Look at that arm bar.

[2317] Ferocious.

[2318] Ferocious, at no point in time.

[2319] With that guy I've been able to stab the fuck out of him with that giant knife in his hand.

[2320] That's just one.

[2321] That's a little bit more believable than the other one.

[2322] Goes the one right next to it where the guy's on his knees.

[2323] There, that one right there.

[2324] Watch this one.

[2325] This one's so fucking stupid.

[2326] I mean, he can't.

[2327] You can't.

[2328] Reach me with that hand.

[2329] Reach me with that hand.

[2330] You cannot.

[2331] You cannot.

[2332] You can't.

[2333] Reach me with that hand.

[2334] Watch this.

[2335] Reach me with that hand.

[2336] Reach me with that hand.

[2337] You cannot.

[2338] The zoom in on dude's face.

[2339] The fucking handlebar mustache is like straight Ben Stiller.

[2340] But this is why I think I get freaked out by cults is that when I was a young teenager and I started doing martial arts, I saw like certain elements of that.

[2341] I, you know, I went to Catholic school for just one year when I was young when I was seven, first grade, actually six, right?

[2342] And it was fucking horrible.

[2343] And I remember thinking like that I can't believe all these people are just doing this.

[2344] Like all these people were following along.

[2345] it was like so awful okay enough with the i don't want to see any more of these i can't they're so stupid they're all so stupid he's got hundreds of them man but um i recognize that like when i was young i was like this is not this doesn't make sense this is just everybody's just going along with this this is normal to leave your kids with this mean -ass nun and all these fucking people are everybody's like stay in order everyone's nasty to you and they're hitting kids like whoo it was awful and i remember thinking, man, there's something that happens to people when they get big groups of them together when they agree on irrational shit.

[2346] There's some weird thing that happens to people where everybody, this can't be right.

[2347] That lady is not acting in the name of God.

[2348] There's no fucking way.

[2349] She's a crazy, mean, old lady and I got to listen to her because she worked for God.

[2350] This is fucking nuts.

[2351] Can I talk to God?

[2352] Does he know how she acts?

[2353] No, you got to talk through me. Yeah.

[2354] Got to talk through her.

[2355] She's a representative of God.

[2356] I got the phone line.

[2357] Yeah, your fucking parents take you there and drop you off and leave you with these monsters all day and you're like what and some of them got fucked right some of them got molested not just some of them quite a few so i think i had a healthy respect for that and fear of that when i was real young and then i saw some of the same elements when i started doing martial arts particularly with like some of the more ridiculous like like really rigid traditional type styles a lot of kung fu there was a lot of like you know for every hundred martial arts schools you had three or four that were just flat out cults.

[2358] I just made those numbers up out of thin air.

[2359] No idea of the tech year.

[2360] One percent.

[2361] Who was the guy, I think it was in China that fucked up one of these fake grandmasters.

[2362] And then he had to go into hiding.

[2363] Who was that guy?

[2364] There was two of them.

[2365] One of them happened recently.

[2366] That was the guy with yellow sneakers on, right?

[2367] He was an MMA guy.

[2368] Yeah.

[2369] Yeah.

[2370] And he fucked this guy up.

[2371] It took all of like two strikes to fucking.

[2372] dismal that old fart.

[2373] Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not fair.

[2374] You're dealing with someone who's delusional, but it is fair because we all need to see that, because there's some people that really did believe that guy had magic powers, because they run a cult.

[2375] Like, these people that are doing all this death touch that, when they'll see their students, like, oh, and they fall down, they believe that they're getting jolted in some weird, might maybe not 100%, but there's a small percentage of their brain that's willing to not just go along with it, but to believe this guy's something special.

[2376] That guy with the yellow sneakers didn't give a fuck about that.

[2377] He just beat the shit out of that dude.

[2378] And for everybody else, but that dude, that's good.

[2379] You know, for that guy to find out that he's not really some possessor of magic powers.

[2380] I mean, if he really did believe it, here it is.

[2381] Oh, red sneakers.

[2382] A different one, maybe.

[2383] No, this is it.

[2384] This is it.

[2385] He just beats the shit out of this dude.

[2386] I mean, real quick.

[2387] He just storms him.

[2388] Boom.

[2389] Hit some of the right hand.

[2390] Boom, another right hand.

[2391] And just gets him on the ground and beats the, fuck out of them.

[2392] I mean, this is like maybe six or seven seconds before they stop it.

[2393] He's out cold.

[2394] I have those mats in my house.

[2395] Puzzle mats?

[2396] Yeah, they're in the living room.

[2397] They're in the same color.

[2398] I check them like that too.

[2399] You're an animal.

[2400] You keep in the living room?

[2401] Uh -huh.

[2402] That's, that way we can just fucking do yoga.

[2403] We can roll.

[2404] That's hard core.

[2405] I'll wrestle with my son there.

[2406] You'd freak people out if they came into your house.

[2407] If they're new in the neighborhood.

[2408] So, uh, you fucking hang out with me for a minute in the living room.

[2409] Come on over and have some cacao.

[2410] Stepping through my garch.

[2411] Cacao.

[2412] Yeah.

[2413] It's like, a mild dose of MDMA.

[2414] Hey, look at my living room.

[2415] It's fucking wrestling mat.

[2416] It's nothing creepy about that.

[2417] That's the move.

[2418] This big giant dude, this big Jack giant dude is drinking a cow with his fucking five -finger toe shoes on.

[2419] Yeah, welcome to the neighborhood.

[2420] That's the neighbor.

[2421] Yeah, come on in.

[2422] Come on in.

[2423] Come on the mat.

[2424] Yeah.

[2425] He's, he really loves yoga.

[2426] is it funny like that sounds like a great thing if you were single you know like if you're just a bunch of guys living together i've heard a hundred stories yeah we have our living room matted up and we just drill i know a lot of guys who got really good because of that like jihitsu guys that want to be in roommates with other jiu jitsu guys instead of just going to class every day and rolling they would take like one or two days a week and they would do like a straight hour of nothing but drills.

[2427] And like, dude, you'd be amazing how much better you get just from doing that.

[2428] That makes sense.

[2429] Those guys don't get a fuck about.

[2430] That's kind of what I do with yoga, though.

[2431] Yeah.

[2432] I just get on the mat.

[2433] Like, I don't have the time now to go to a full yoga class.

[2434] So I'll just hit it then.

[2435] I'm there.

[2436] I'll drop down.

[2437] My wife's yoga certified now, so she'll put me through some shit and we can just do it.

[2438] That's very nice.

[2439] That's very nice to have.

[2440] Do you ever do it outside in the grass?

[2441] Yoga or rolling.

[2442] Yoga.

[2443] Yeah, I've done yoga outside in the grass.

[2444] It's nice to be outdoors.

[2445] I think it is, too.

[2446] You can do yoga anywhere, you know?

[2447] For sure.

[2448] I was doing it on the Cathedral Rock, on the LSD and the Kikau.

[2449] That's a double -dose, son.

[2450] Is that candy flipping?

[2451] Or what?

[2452] How's that work?

[2453] Because it's kind of candy.

[2454] It's kind of candy flip.

[2455] Yeah.

[2456] Whoa, is that where candy flipping came from?

[2457] Chocolate?

[2458] I don't think so.

[2459] I don't think Kikow's been around a little longer than LSD.

[2460] Right.

[2461] But the original candy flip must have been MDMA with LSD.

[2462] Probably.

[2463] But maybe it was candy.

[2464] Maybe it was Kikau.

[2465] It's fucking chocolate.

[2466] A little LSD -laced chocolate.

[2467] Hmm.

[2468] What else should we keep an eye on?

[2469] As far as interesting substances?

[2470] As far as interesting substances that you didn't know can make you trip balls.

[2471] Like now that we know it's cacao.

[2472] I get a cacao shake at this fucking juice place I go to.

[2473] You're not going to see shit on cacao.

[2474] I'm saying it has similar properties.

[2475] Dude, you're not going to see aliens.

[2476] You're not going to see a damn thing.

[2477] I'm going to eat a triple dose.

[2478] Whatever you took, I'll take three times as much.

[2479] We'll see what happened.

[2480] That was an issue, though.

[2481] The issue is there's a lot of magnesium in cacao.

[2482] And I had fasted for four days.

[2483] So at three o 'clock, I was like, we need to go now.

[2484] Wow.

[2485] And I fucking sprinted down the mountain for the shitter.

[2486] Whoa.

[2487] Straight liquid.

[2488] There you go.

[2489] Another one.

[2490] Another one.

[2491] Well, you know what, though?

[2492] I was able to keep that tight.

[2493] I was pinching the butthole like that lady with the vaginal clip going.

[2494] It's a real accomplishment when you could do it.

[2495] It was a hard keogh, down Cathedral Rock.

[2496] I almost shit myself a few months back, headed to the improv.

[2497] I was real scared.

[2498] I got over the top of Laurel Canyon and I was going down Fairfax.

[2499] I was like, I might not make it.

[2500] Like, this might not.

[2501] I might not, I might not make this one.

[2502] You start sweating?

[2503] Yeah, I was sweating hard.

[2504] Did not feel good.

[2505] Felt very nervous.

[2506] Yeah, that's how bad.

[2507] Yep.

[2508] I don't know what else is out there, you know?

[2509] I know we're combining some really cool shit.

[2510] I mean, getting to work on the podcast is fucking amazing.

[2511] And thank you both for encouraging me to start one.

[2512] I'm glad you did, man. You're so good at it.

[2513] It's like such a natural thing to you.

[2514] It's hard to believe that somebody had to prod you.

[2515] Like, how do you not look at what?

[2516] I mean, you're able to, you're constantly able to recite interesting information about science or medicine or physiology.

[2517] You always have this stuff at your fingertips.

[2518] Like, why wouldn't you do a podcast?

[2519] Doesn't even make sense.

[2520] It all makes sense now.

[2521] Yeah, of course.

[2522] But it's like being really good at playing guitar.

[2523] And someone says, like, you mean, you should probably be in a band or something.

[2524] You're like, fuck that.

[2525] Like, I don't know.

[2526] It sounds hard.

[2527] It just doesn't seem like something I'm into.

[2528] Not really into music.

[2529] Yeah.

[2530] I hate music.

[2531] So, yeah, we got the podcast, and that's a big child of minded on it.

[2532] And then product development would probably be the other big piece of that.

[2533] Let me in on this.

[2534] How the fuck do you make those protein bites?

[2535] This sounds like a commercial.

[2536] But those protein bites are, those are crack.

[2537] There's something in those things.

[2538] I've sent them to people.

[2539] My friend Aaron Snyder, he goes, dude, this shit's heroin.

[2540] Like, what's in this?

[2541] You can't stop.

[2542] We consider making them into one so it's actually a bite.

[2543] And we're like, no, people eat both.

[2544] Or if they do eat one, they'll hand the other one off.

[2545] Yeah, you give one a friend.

[2546] It's not going to waste.

[2547] No. But we've got four new flavors coming out, And we've been, I get to be the guinea pig for that shit, too, with Aubrey and a few other people on the team, ETG, Lindsay.

[2548] Tastes so good.

[2549] Yeah, they're insane.

[2550] And they don't make you feel bad at all.

[2551] No. And the new flavors are going to be fucking top tier, too.

[2552] There's something about, like, there's, I'm willing to get, like, a slightly adverse reaction if I'm hungry.

[2553] If I'm hungry and I want, like, a certain type of sugar -free protein bar, I'm like, I'll just fucking eat it.

[2554] I need something.

[2555] I'll eat it.

[2556] But while I'm eating, I'm like, ugh, what is?

[2557] is this what's going on here what is this you know your body's going yeah you know this is a little weird like whatever the protein in this is a little hard for me digest here's a fart for you motherfucker but hopefully hopefully but with those protein bites it doesn't feel like you did anything wrong no it's the fucking healthy they taste good but they don't feel like you did anything wrong yeah so you can eat that's the idea of them to make something healthy that tastes delicious i eat four of them all the time uh i got i can let i got the thumbs up normally i'm not a lot to talk about shit we're not creating but I'll just give you this we're gonna fucking make really delicious healthy cereal cereal yeah like cocoa pops you fucking name it really yeah how we're gonna be able to do that well I can't give away the secrets but I'm just saying son we're gonna have some fucking here's the thing is milk healthy because I don't think so but I don't think so for I think for a lot of people it's not in California you guys can get raw milk that's healthier but is that healthy is is raw milk healthy I think it's healthier than the killed off shit.

[2558] Definitely healthier than the killed off shit.

[2559] Where they fucking get rid of all the good bacteria that's in it.

[2560] 100%.

[2561] 100%.

[2562] No doubt.

[2563] And then raw goat's milk is supposed to be even better for you than that.

[2564] Yes.

[2565] And the reason that we find out now that, uh, do you ever read the plant paradox by Dr. Stephen Gundry?

[2566] No. He's a fucking savage.

[2567] Did you bring this up on the first podcast we did?

[2568] I don't think I had read that on the first podcast.

[2569] Uh, Greenfield termion of this guy.

[2570] He says that there's a different type of casein protein that Holstein, that Holstein, black and white dairy cows versus southern european cows goats don't make it sheep don't make it so if you're going to have dairy go with something from a southern european cow or go with like goats milk cheese uh sheep smoke cheese those kind of things but i mean if you're eating the fucking cereal like i'm doing especially when i'm doing keto i'll throw heavy heavy uh coconut cream in there like a can coconut cream we're making our own keto ice cream with an ice cream maker do the same shit damn you know phenomenal stuff i'll let my son mow that down You don't want dinner, you just want ice cream?

[2571] Cool.

[2572] There's fucking free -range egg yolks in there.

[2573] There's no fucking, you know, it's all natural sweeteners, no car, you know, nothing's going to fuck with his glycemic index.

[2574] People don't think that that would be, you know, if you, everyone thinks you have to suffer somewhat, right?

[2575] But if they could figure out a way to make something taste like a real ice cream Sunday, like with whipped cream, hot chocolate, cherries, everything, and have it be super healthy for you.

[2576] There's got to be a way.

[2577] Lily's chocolate bars, no affiliation with those guys, but they've fucking figured out how to make chocolate delicious.

[2578] And they do it with Stevia?

[2579] They do it with Stevia and a couple other things.

[2580] What is it called again?

[2581] Lilies.

[2582] L -I -L -Y or I -E.

[2583] Yeah, they're at Whole Foods, Sprouts, all those places.

[2584] They're fucking insane.

[2585] They're really, they're really insane.

[2586] They've got it dialed in.

[2587] But, I mean, if you could melt that down on some homemade ice cream, that's something I tell people a lot is, if you're going to cheat or if you're going to eat for mouth pleasure make it yourself right you know make your own fucking pizza with a better crust make your own dessert with with shit that's not going to spike your blood sugar and make you fat cause inflammation and fuck your brain up like just make it yourself go the extra fucking mile do it yourself it'll be way healthier yeah but people don't have time for that shit well do you have time to make your own keto waffles really no I don't do that I don't like I think the idea I've watched you were talking about them and I saw and they did a repost haven't tried their waffles or their syrup but I'm done to try I just haven't found the syrup anywhere they well you get it from their website I fucked up some of their waffles with some syrup and just a pound of butter on it it was sensational that sounds like a good idea I didn't feel bad after it was over I felt good I was like I don't even feel terrible that's the goal of creating shit like that right we've got a ton of keto shakes now at the on it cafe they will fucking change your life damn they're insanely good life changing yeah no doubt and they don't make you feel bad that's the key right like if there aren't some like i'll tell you no plug here uh these fucking killcliffs these are goddamn delicious i don't have any business affiliation with them but they don't how much sugar does this thing have in it zero it's just a risk you tall zero zero sugar shit tastes good but it doesn't have any bullshit in it, right?

[2588] I mean, this doesn't have any aspartame or anything.

[2589] What are they using it for, uh, what are they using this to, to sweeten it?

[2590] Erythritol.

[2591] What is that?

[2592] It's a natural sweetener that's low glycemic, similar to stevia.

[2593] Like xylitol, similar to stevia, but they all have different flavor components.

[2594] So some of them work better for an energy drink.

[2595] Some of them work better for ice cream, shit like that.

[2596] This is recovery and hydration.

[2597] So what it is.

[2598] This shit tastes fantastic.

[2599] And then there's no bad feeling afterwards.

[2600] Like, if I, drank that and that was a coke, I'd be like, oh, so good going down.

[2601] A cold Coke in the aluminum can.

[2602] You crack the top and it's got the fucking, the condensation all over the top of it because it's so cold.

[2603] I haven't had a coke and pulled it out of the cooler.

[2604] 15 years probably.

[2605] Ooh, we.

[2606] Especially if you have some barbecue dude, you're in the middle of a slab of ribs and you go for that cold Coke and you just chug, chug, chug.

[2607] And you feel the syrup.

[2608] Never.

[2609] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2610] You feel the thick syrup, making its way to your veins.

[2611] But for that mouth pleasure, you'll trade it all.

[2612] Do you like the Zia?

[2613] Have you had Zias?

[2614] They're fucking amazing.

[2615] It's not the same flavor as Coke.

[2616] I fucking love it, though.

[2617] The cherry cola.

[2618] The root beer, ginger ale's good.

[2619] They got some great ones.

[2620] They're fucking great.

[2621] Yeah, you can legit get things that taste good now that don't have sugar in them.

[2622] I mean, we're just so addicted to the things that have the sugar in them.

[2623] You know, if we could find healthy alternatives.

[2624] It's possible.

[2625] They're coming out.

[2626] They're coming out.

[2627] Well, listen, man. Let's go fucking shoot some bows and arrows and shit.

[2628] I'm fucking down.

[2629] It's 30 3 o 'clock.

[2630] Let's get this over with.

[2631] Hit it.

[2632] Kings boo on Instagram and Twitter.

[2633] Yep.

[2634] Onit .com for everything else.

[2635] And host of the Onit podcast, which is available on iTunes.

[2636] And where else are you guys available?

[2637] Is it?

[2638] Everywhere.

[2639] All good.

[2640] And I think you guys are on YouTube too, right?

[2641] Yeah, we just started doing like full length.

[2642] We just originally were doing that for a little marketing tools like that.

[2643] Fuck it.

[2644] Put it all up.

[2645] Yep.

[2646] Throw it up.

[2647] All right.

[2648] Well, listen, brother, we've got to do it.

[2649] this more often.

[2650] But we just did it.

[2651] Hell yeah.

[2652] Kyle Kingsbury, ladies and gentlemen.

[2653] We'll be back.

[2654] For us the hobby tomorrow.