#2033 - Matt Rife

[0] Joe Rogan podcast, checking out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] All right, where are you recording this?

[4] Let's go, Matt Rice.

[5] Let's do it.

[6] Let's go off the show.

[7] Are you still in L .A. right now?

[8] Technically.

[9] Yeah, I mean, I'm home three days a week, three days a month, maybe.

[10] You're just constantly touring.

[11] Yeah, it's a dream come true, man. Careful what you wish for.

[12] But long time coming, you know.

[13] Well, I don't know.

[14] It's not careful what you wish for.

[15] It's just, you just have to learn how to manage this new thing now.

[16] It's great, though.

[17] It's not careful.

[18] It's fucking awesome.

[19] It's so much better than it not working out for you.

[20] Oh, absolutely.

[21] No, if I could sleep like a normal human being, I think it'd be just fine.

[22] Yeah, you were just talking about that.

[23] You have serious insomnia.

[24] Have you done anything to try to mitigate that?

[25] Have you done, have you taken melatonin?

[26] Have you tried any herbal?

[27] You've done all that stuff?

[28] I've OD'd on melatonin, dude.

[29] I've taken 30 milligrams in a night, and, you know, you build up a tolerance to melatonin.

[30] You get to stop using it for a little while.

[31] I mean, I do have to smoke, like, every single night to even have a chance of falling asleep.

[32] Wow.

[33] So you just, like, get some of that Be Real Indica, some of that Cypress Hill shit.

[34] Oh, yeah, dude, until I just am just deformed in bed.

[35] And that puts you out?

[36] Yeah.

[37] Not really.

[38] No. It's insane.

[39] I can stay awake on Xanax and everything.

[40] It's almost like...

[41] So interesting.

[42] If you picture like a light switch to turn your brain off, I just can't.

[43] It's like...

[44] Your switch doesn't work.

[45] No. And I think it's like...

[46] after thinking about it for years, I think it's the same mechanism in my brain that, like, allows me to think quickly on stage that allows, that keeps my brain up at night.

[47] Like, I just think about anything.

[48] It's not even anxiety.

[49] It's just anything.

[50] It's just frantic thoughts, just bouncing around your head.

[51] Yeah.

[52] Anything from middle school memories to like, man, it's crazy how leaves are green and then brown sometimes.

[53] Like, it's just fucking anything.

[54] My dick is like, please don't beat me again.

[55] Like, I'm trying.

[56] I tried everything.

[57] I promise.

[58] Wow.

[59] I know.

[60] I know.

[61] It sucks.

[62] Because obviously, I mean, sleep for as much as I work out, like your muscles don't get that time to recover because they can't build.

[63] Well, and your brain doesn't get that time to recover.

[64] Oh, yeah.

[65] Your immune system suffers.

[66] Everything suffers when you don't sleep.

[67] I've made, like, a really conscious effort over the last year to get a lot of sleep.

[68] And I've fucked it up quite a few times with the club.

[69] Because there's been times with the club where like at least three nights a week when I'm performing, you know, I'm out till two o 'clock in the morning.

[70] And generally I wake up around eight to start working out.

[71] And at, you know, at eight, it's like six hours.

[72] It's not quite enough.

[73] Yeah.

[74] Like it's not even six hours.

[75] It's like five and a half.

[76] And, you know, I feel tired.

[77] I look tired.

[78] And I just don't have as much juice.

[79] And then when I adjust and then get proper sleep again, it's all of a sudden it's like...

[80] Like, I feel like everything turns up to 10 again.

[81] It's fascinating.

[82] Like, I feel a big difference.

[83] Like, physically feel a big difference.

[84] Like, if that, if sleep was a supplement, if I could take a sleep supplement and it gives you that feeling you get when you're, like, fully rested, oh, my God, you're just better.

[85] You're better.

[86] Everything works better.

[87] Your brain works better.

[88] You can...

[89] physically do more.

[90] Everything works better.

[91] I've heard.

[92] Yeah, you gotta try it.

[93] I don't think I've even been in a REM sleep in five years, dude.

[94] Oh, that doesn't make sense.

[95] It's so not good.

[96] I feel dead, dude.

[97] But you're not.

[98] You feel alive.

[99] I've stayed awake for nine straight days before.

[100] What?

[101] Yeah.

[102] I don't even think that's possible.

[103] I think the world record is like 11 or 13.

[104] Because I looked into it because I genuinely started to get like fearful for my own health.

[105] do you do you agree with having needing eight hours because i've heard so many no i don't think i don't think everybody needs eight hours i just know i do there's no way i could know what's going on in other people's bodies you think it's case by case yeah i think it's like everything with biology biology varies so much by genetics and life experiences you know what have you done leading up have you just been sedentary your whole life or you've been very active is your body very fit or is your body like riddled with problems like there's so many and they're just genetics man they vary so much some people are you know they have no problem with five hour sleep and it changes over time as well doesn't it like didn't people evolve from sleeping in like four hour increments or something like that I mean, I'm sure they did.

[106] I'm sure they didn't get a chance to just fucking chill.

[107] You know, they were getting eaten by cats.

[108] Yeah.

[109] You know, that's the, you know, the rub on people.

[110] It's like we still have these genetics that are from 10 ,000, 15 ,000 years ago when life was very different.

[111] And those are still the same genetics.

[112] And that's why we're still looking for like tribal leaders and shit.

[113] We're looking for like a president, a prime minister.

[114] We're looking for like one person still.

[115] Leaders used to fight in war.

[116] Yes.

[117] And that was how we sort of figured out what to do.

[118] We went to the person who had experienced the most.

[119] Not the person who's been paid off the most.

[120] Yeah.

[121] Not the person who's got the fucking shadyest insider dealings with the party that is the most influence.

[122] Oh, I know.

[123] God damn it.

[124] I'm so happy I'd take zero part in any politics whatsoever.

[125] Good for you.

[126] I'm the least politically informed person you'll probably ever meet.

[127] And I know I'm taking pride in naivity, but...

[128] Well, for your own self -preservation, that's probably a good idea.

[129] I've always said that voting and, like, politics in this country is a lot like rooting on pro wrestling.

[130] Damn.

[131] It might make you feel better, but I'm not sure how much it affects the outcome.

[132] That's a very good point.

[133] It seems like at the very end of the day, the same people are getting all the money.

[134] Yeah.

[135] And don't think about it in terms of whether or not you can vote in your party.

[136] You most certainly can.

[137] And don't think about it.

[138] They most certainly can enact social change and they can do some good things and especially in relationship with the Supreme Court and a lot of other things.

[139] But at the end of the day.

[140] The real people that are running the show are the people that are getting these massive defense contracts, massive pharmaceutical contracts.

[141] The billions and trillions of dollars that's being generated by various industries, that's what's running the show.

[142] That's what's running the show.

[143] Man, you're speaking Mandarin Chinese right now.

[144] That's not that fucking old dude that keeps getting tripped by ghosts.

[145] He's not your leader.

[146] Are you a big ghost guy?

[147] I believe it's possible.

[148] I'm obsessed.

[149] Are you?

[150] So, really weird side hobby of mine, I go ghost hunting.

[151] I've been like around the world.

[152] Wow.

[153] Yeah, it's incredible.

[154] What have you experienced?

[155] Have you ever had an absolute moment when you're like, oh my God, I'm in the presence of a poltergeist?

[156] Um, not still not a thousand percent.

[157] I've definitely witnessed things that I cannot for the life of me explain that have creeped me out.

[158] The timing has been impeccable.

[159] I've seen things move that there's just no fucking way that they've moved.

[160] I've gotten answers back on EVPs.

[161] But for me, it is one of the things I do need to see it.

[162] Isn't the EVP like a radio though?

[163] No, EVP is just a recorder.

[164] It's a recorder.

[165] What is that radio thing?

[166] I'm sorry then.

[167] What is the one where they like listen?

[168] There's a bunch of different names.

[169] My daughter's heavily into this shit.

[170] What does she watch?

[171] Heavyly.

[172] Sam and Colby.

[173] You had them on, right?

[174] Yes.

[175] Great guys.

[176] So I met these other guys.

[177] There's another channel called the Overnight Channel who are equally as popular as Sam and Colby.

[178] And they actually used to work together.

[179] And I believe they spit off and each do their own thing.

[180] But that's who I started going with.

[181] So I'm very familiar with those guys.

[182] So these kids, the Sam and Colby guys just went into the Conjuring House.

[183] I was just there, maybe a month and a half ago.

[184] You went into the Conjuring House too?

[185] By myself, Joe.

[186] Okay.

[187] Do you believe that there's something going on in that house?

[188] The Conjuring movies are fucking great.

[189] It's my favorite franchise.

[190] They're fun.

[191] And there's so many of them.

[192] They really did it right.

[193] Like, if you want to be smart, they branched off with the nun.

[194] They branched off with Annabelle.

[195] And I love the way they tie in the story from each one, to make it all one chronological story.

[196] It's genius.

[197] Yeah.

[198] I will say I wasn't...

[199] I wasn't as scared as I've been in a lot of places we've been.

[200] There is some kind of solace to the house, but you get to know the history of it, and it just, it does make sense that there would be something here.

[201] I mean, it's on some lay lines of water underground.

[202] It's...

[203] There was war spot there.

[204] There's apparently bodies buried on the property in the walls of the property structures and stuff.

[205] There's a lot of history that goes into it that just makes kind of the perfect storm for some creepy shit.

[206] But I didn't witness anything that was that insane.

[207] Some items moved, some cars rolled off of the children's dressers a couple of times on cue.

[208] And that's the one thing I do pride ourselves in these videos is so often we get absolutely nothing because we don't fake anything.

[209] So you only get to see the highlights.

[210] Like there's so many times we'll go to a place that is so notoriously haunted and we'll be there for 10 hours and get absolutely nothing.

[211] And it sucks.

[212] But that makes when something does happen that much more valuable.

[213] It's so much more impressive.

[214] What do you think, so do you think a ghost is like the soul of a person that's left behind?

[215] Or do you think the ghost is almost like space and time because of a horrible incident?

[216] contain a memory and like that memory is almost like it like shows up in current time sometimes there's a guy named rupert scheldrake i forget what his uh field of study is but he had this theory about uh things and he believes that objects contain memories Oh, interesting.

[217] He's not the only one that has...

[218] Inanimate objects?

[219] Yeah.

[220] That things contain memories.

[221] And this is one of the reasons why, like, people kind of universally support this idea that if someone was murdered in a house, you must tell the people, inform the people that are about to buy it.

[222] You have to tell them, hey, somebody got murdered in this house.

[223] Like, maybe you don't want to buy this house.

[224] Now does the...

[225] Maybe you should think about it.

[226] Does the potential owner have to ask that information?

[227] It's a good question.

[228] I'd want to know.

[229] Yeah.

[230] I think it's a good question.

[231] I think they should have to inform you because there's something about someone being murdered in a spot that freaks us out.

[232] And so this is my question.

[233] You knew the conjured house was haunted, right?

[234] So you go there with this feeling and this expectation.

[235] That's what I always wonder about these things.

[236] Like how much of...

[237] How much of, and this isn't just imagining things.

[238] This is like the mind itself seems to have some unmeasured effect on the world.

[239] Yeah.

[240] I think the way you think has an unmeasured effect in terms of like this, there's energy that you put out, there's connections you make with people.

[241] They're very, very unmeasured.

[242] And you can manifest your own perception of things for sure.

[243] Yeah.

[244] So what my concern is is like if you go into a place with a pre -existing knowledge of ghosts, like you think ghosts are here, you think ghosts are real, you have this thought in your mind that you maybe experience a ghost in this place that's haunted.

[245] You're at this elevated level of anticipation.

[246] You're probably really nervous and kind of freaked out and your imagination starts firing up.

[247] And I'm not even saying that these people are lying or that they're seeing things that aren't there.

[248] I'm saying maybe you make things show up.

[249] Maybe you see memories.

[250] Maybe you experience some horrible energy that existed in this spot 50 years ago, 100 years ago.

[251] There's like ways you can tune into that.

[252] I could see that being possible.

[253] But to me, that's what's so exciting about it is like you go hoping for those solidified answers.

[254] You're going hoping to witness something that you couldn't have possibly made up.

[255] But you know why I think that, too?

[256] It's like you never see him in the daytime.

[257] Ghosts don't exist on the street.

[258] Sometimes.

[259] Yeah, but not outside.

[260] They're never outside.

[261] That's a very good point.

[262] That's my point is like you're always trapped.

[263] So you're always in this like weird space.

[264] Like if you had a wolf in your house, you'd be freaked out.

[265] You'd want to get outside.

[266] Yeah.

[267] Right?

[268] You don't want a wolf in the, ah, it's a fucking wolf in the house.

[269] Yeah.

[270] Anytime you're in a contained area, your brain has this heightened sense of...

[271] like being trapped in awareness and how do you escape.

[272] I mean, every horror movie's the same.

[273] When you gotta get to the door, get to the door, right?

[274] Everybody's trying to fumble with the keys and the monsters chasing them and they get it just in time, right?

[275] That is a reoccurring theme in the human mind.

[276] If you're trapped in a fucking house with a killer or a ghost or a wolf, it's scary.

[277] You know where that makes the most sense?

[278] We did the USS Hornet up in the Bay Area.

[279] Yeah.

[280] And we had the whole ship to ourselves, which I was so excited about because I love military stuff.

[281] I love history.

[282] I was so excited to go there and just witness it.

[283] And they sent me by myself on a bit, basically a game of hide and seek where I had to go find them in the ship somewhere after I had to like count to 100 by myself.

[284] It was the most terrifying place I've ever been because if you've never been in like the bow of a ship, it's so unfamiliar.

[285] Like doorways don't look the same.

[286] You know, you have to step over them and everything.

[287] There's so many pipes and everything sticking out.

[288] It's such an unfamiliar environment, especially in the dark.

[289] It's terrifying.

[290] You think, I can't possibly run away from something in here.

[291] There's too many obstacles.

[292] You don't, you don't know if that's a wall or a pipe or something peaking around to like look at you.

[293] It's fucking terrifying because of exactly that you feel so trapped.

[294] That totally makes sense.

[295] And I would imagine also the feeling of being underwater as an extra freak out.

[296] I didn't think about that, but now I have anxiety about it.

[297] I mean, you literally, if you're deep enough in the ship, you're under the water.

[298] That's a very good point.

[299] And somehow metal floats?

[300] What the fuck?

[301] I don't understand it whatsoever.

[302] I just don't get it.

[303] Because of the shape?

[304] What?

[305] Yeah, to me has always been like, what?

[306] Yeah, like a rock that size would fucking sink, right?

[307] I don't know what's going on.

[308] I'm too stupid to figure out boats.

[309] Physics are so confusing, dude.

[310] I get a fiberglass boat, that makes sense.

[311] But they didn't have fiberglass.

[312] Get a wood boat, that makes sense.

[313] Oh, those giant ships?

[314] One of those battleships.

[315] Imagine if they had to make battleships out of wood.

[316] Dude.

[317] Like, we have battleships, but they have to be out of wood.

[318] Fuck.

[319] Yeah, let's go back to having a fight with swords while we're at it as well.

[320] Do you ever do Pirates of the Caribbean at Disneyland?

[321] I've been one time, and it's fucking terrifying.

[322] No. No, dude.

[323] Are you scared of everything?

[324] I'm scared.

[325] I'm afraid of no living things, apparently, okay?

[326] Apparently not.

[327] No, the ride scares me. Because I can really imagine if I was the only person in there and you see those fucking animated figures in there by themselves, that to me is like a perfect scorer movie.

[328] It's so creepy.

[329] Like one of them would come alive?

[330] Yeah.

[331] But what I was getting to is there's a scene when you're going down the river in the raft where these two ships are shooting at each other with cannonballs.

[332] And it makes you think about what the fuck?

[333] that would have been like living back then oh you had to be a you had to be a man you run a wooden thing flowed around the ocean and you're both shooting things that make holes in the woods to sink them yep you're out in the middle of the ocean which would you rather had to like done in that situation would you rather rely on the cannons or would you hope they get close enough you had to battle it out hand to hand i like my odds hand i don't trust the ship Both suck.

[334] Yeah, they're not ideal.

[335] Because it depends on numbers.

[336] It depends on experience.

[337] Have you had food lately, you know?

[338] Have you been starving for the last week and a half?

[339] And then all of a sudden you get hit by pirates.

[340] There's a lot of those guys like barely made it.

[341] Oh, of course.

[342] They got across to land wherever they were going in those ships back then and they barely made it.

[343] Just vanished.

[344] Died on those things all the time.

[345] Oh, yeah.

[346] It's impressive.

[347] And also the ocean's fucking terrifying.

[348] You ever see the videos of like these giant ships in the middle of the ocean just getting vertical on these waves?

[349] That's terrifying.

[350] And they were just, their food was nothing.

[351] It was garbage.

[352] They got scurvy.

[353] They got all kinds of diseases.

[354] Yeah.

[355] There was rats on board.

[356] The rats were carrying fleas that carried diseases.

[357] No, I don't think I could have made it personally.

[358] I would have stayed in England for sure.

[359] And by the time you get there, you're so worn out.

[360] Like, I don't know how long it takes by sailboat to get from England to America?

[361] Like, how much, how long does that take?

[362] Was it just sailed back then to?

[363] Yeah.

[364] Fuck, yeah, there's no propeller.

[365] Nothing.

[366] No propellers.

[367] I never even registered that.

[368] Holy shit.

[369] Those people were so gangster.

[370] They didn't even know what was over there.

[371] They thought they were in India.

[372] That's so fucking funny.

[373] Bro, they thought that they were in India.

[374] So wrong.

[375] And they kept calling people the wrong thing.

[376] To this day we called the wrong thing.

[377] Sailing from New York City to London takes about six nights and seven days depending on your speed.

[378] That's because of the famous royal places, Big Ben, and double -decker buses of London.

[379] Yeah, but I don't think that that's today.

[380] I don't buy that.

[381] I thought it took like weeks.

[382] The addition mentions typical passage from New York to the English Channel for a well -found sailing vessel of about 2 ,000 tons was around 25 to 30 days with ships logging 100 to 150 miles per day on average.

[383] That's not that bad.

[384] No, I believe that number.

[385] Yeah, 30 days is pretty good.

[386] I mean, that's still so uncomfortable.

[387] That's if everything goes well.

[388] Oh, yeah.

[389] Do you ever see that video going around recently of those potential mermaids?

[390] On the side of that ship in the middle of the ocean?

[391] No. What?

[392] What are you talking about?

[393] Potential mermaids.

[394] Jamie, you know what I'm talking about?

[395] Is this some C -G -I nonsense?

[396] There is like a sailor, a guy sail on the back of the ship and you can hear...

[397] moans right sort of so there's like it's just a dude on a blurry cell phone video it looks like a good cell phone video and there's these things that are like racing on the side of the boat that are going the same speed as the boat and it's like there's like a tail or something trailing behind them and this keeps up for hours and then you start to hear whistling let me see your tunes you hear what sounds like one of them say jump for me Oh, God.

[398] Yeah.

[399] How do you think this is real?

[400] There's no way this is.

[401] Imagine if I'm being, this is.

[402] This is like the beginning of a movie, right?

[403] You and I are having this podcast.

[404] We're being super skeptical.

[405] And then in the movie, you find out there has been a very small group of mermaids that have existed in the ocean, hiding from humanity because we have only discovered 10 % of the ocean.

[406] This is a fun world to live in.

[407] Is it this one?

[408] Yeah, this guy.

[409] All right.

[410] So this video is a couple years old.

[411] Oh, okay.

[412] Nobody.

[413] So what?

[414] Wait, I just threw this overboard.

[415] Y 'all saw me throw an overboard.

[416] This, are you fucking kidding me?

[417] That did not just...

[418] So what is this guy saying?

[419] He's got a couple videos.

[420] Seems like he spent a lot of time out in the water.

[421] That looks like...

[422] So where are the mermaids?

[423] And this is a much longer video than I've ever seen.

[424] Well, that was one of the sounds.

[425] There you go.

[426] You hear the jump for me?

[427] I didn't hear jump for me. Did you hear a jump for me, Jamie?

[428] It's one of those things that somebody did the subtitles for it one time and that always makes your brain registered a little bit easier.

[429] He just has a few videos like this.

[430] But where's the video of the mermaids?

[431] It was a part of the same one we were just watching where you heard like the squeal.

[432] So in there there there's a mermaid?

[433] Yeah, I think it's before this.

[434] This one might cut it off.

[435] Because this, what I have found is a, like, smash cut up a few videos this guy made.

[436] That sounds like a whale.

[437] This is like a compilation.

[438] You know what?

[439] It could have been a whale.

[440] It could have been.

[441] Easily changed my mind.

[442] It was definitely mermaids, bro.

[443] You know what, whales do make that sound.

[444] Doesn't matter of fat.

[445] They do.

[446] They make exactly that sound.

[447] Also, could have just been a fat mermaid.

[448] We don't know.

[449] I just don't, whenever one dude in multiple videos is encountering mermaids.

[450] I get suspicious.

[451] But here's this, you know what?

[452] Your reaction right now is why I love to believe in ghosts, aliens, cryptids, bigfoot, mermaids, all that kind of shit.

[453] Because imagine this shit is real.

[454] Imagine this dude had a real experience, right?

[455] I love the idea of all of those things you just mentioned.

[456] I really do.

[457] I love the idea.

[458] Really?

[459] Yeah.

[460] I love that you love that stuff.

[461] I fucking love nonsense.

[462] I got so high once I watched the Patterson Bigfoot footage.

[463] I was like, oh my God, what if it's real?

[464] What if I've been an asshole making fun of this thing forever when it's actually really a big foot?

[465] Yeah.

[466] And I imagine you've had that encounter and the rest of the world thinks you're a fucking psychopath.

[467] That would feel so lonely.

[468] But that moment only lasted like 15 minutes.

[469] The weed wore off a little bit.

[470] I was like, that shit is so fake.

[471] This was a similar one.

[472] I don't know if you know anything about this man. I haven't seen this video multiple times.

[473] Supposedly this guy saw a giant on the side of a hill.

[474] A giant?

[475] Yeah, I'm trying to find the part where you can.

[476] So, like, it's something like this.

[477] So high.

[478] He thought he saw it, so he goes back and, like, he's looking for it.

[479] It looks like it's someone walking on the side of a hill.

[480] The perspective is very strange.

[481] I'll change the angle.

[482] The giant one is a fascinating one.

[483] But then the guy disappears.

[484] So he's making a bunch of videos on TikTok, and then he just disappeared.

[485] And everyone's like, well, what the fuck happened?

[486] Wait, I don't know if I saw anything in the video.

[487] Where's the giant?

[488] This is also a guy's making an edit about this whole story.

[489] This isn't trying to find this very specific video where he's trying to find the giant.

[490] So he's driving in his truck and he sees a giant?

[491] Yeah, he's driving on the truck and he sees something on the side of the hill.

[492] And I don't know if on this specific one you can see it.

[493] Like, how big of a giant?

[494] That's what it's hard to tell because it's just...

[495] I mean, it looks far as shit, but I also don't see anything.

[496] The one you can find, I'll try to find out while I'm talking.

[497] What are you looking at?

[498] Do you see something there?

[499] I don't see anything.

[500] I don't...

[501] There's someone move in there?

[502] I'm trying to find the very specific thing, but there is a very...

[503] It looks just like this, and you can see a person.

[504] Like, you can see the silhouette of a person on the side of that hill.

[505] It's weird from this far away.

[506] You could see that.

[507] I'm gonna be completely honest.

[508] I don't know what I'm looking at in that video.

[509] Yeah.

[510] Because like I saw the zoom in, but the zoom was in the sky.

[511] It doesn't make sense to me either.

[512] I'm looking at it.

[513] I'm like, I don't see shit.

[514] Like where is this supposed to be?

[515] Yeah.

[516] These people's, it's like blob squatches.

[517] That's one of the things that Bigfoot hunters, they just start seeing shadows that look like Sasquatch and they're convinced.

[518] And then they convince themselves.

[519] The fact that that show has been on for so fucking long.

[520] They're still fine in Bigfoot, bro.

[521] They're working really hard.

[522] How do you get renewed with no results?

[523] Here's a picture of what the video was just to still show.

[524] Oh, okay.

[525] I mean, yeah.

[526] I don't know.

[527] It's a perspective thing.

[528] Yeah, I don't know how far away that Zoom is.

[529] Yeah, I mean, that could be a six foot tall dude up there.

[530] Yeah.

[531] I mean, also, humans are 6 '7 foot, 7 foot sometimes.

[532] Yeah, that's not that big.

[533] They're claiming this guy died, actually, apparently.

[534] The mountain guy up there?

[535] Oh, no, okay.

[536] Apparently, now he says, all right, this is an update.

[537] This video was only posted recently.

[538] Okay.

[539] Admission, there was a hoax?

[540] He was a hoax, and then he died.

[541] Oh, you...

[542] Oh, he made an admission the video was a hoax, and then he died.

[543] I didn't know about that.

[544] Oh, well, it's probably unrelated.

[545] The type of person who's out there hoax in giant videos is probably doing a lot of wild shit.

[546] I would imagine so.

[547] My point on TikTok was, I think a lot of people are doing that, making these hoax things.

[548] I'm sure.

[549] That's a product of DMT for sure.

[550] That's how it goes viral.

[551] You've got to fake things.

[552] There's a lot of people faking things for sure.

[553] Of course.

[554] But there was, the Bigfoot ones were some of the Bigfoot fakes were so bad.

[555] There was one on the Les Stroud show where the guy was like so obviously wearing a mask.

[556] It's like a close -up on a guy wearing a mask.

[557] It's so embarrassing.

[558] At least try.

[559] Yeah.

[560] Like make some kind of compelling case.

[561] Yeah.

[562] Less Trout is the shit.

[563] You know, Survivor Man?

[564] That guy's awesome.

[565] That guy did legit things.

[566] He's the guy that, do you ever see that show Survivor Man?

[567] I don't think so.

[568] Oh, my God.

[569] The show was amazing.

[570] When was this on?

[571] He used to go, it was a while back, and he used to go legitimately by himself with a very limited amount of tools, and he would live in wild places, like really dangerous places and figure his way out and survive.

[572] And, you know, a lot of times, like, you could see on the show he was losing like 15 pounds.

[573] Oh, yeah.

[574] Like, got really sick.

[575] Got injured.

[576] You watched that show alone on Netflix?

[577] Yeah, it's similar.

[578] But this was like one guy with his own cameras doing this everywhere.

[579] So cool.

[580] Yeah.

[581] Yeah, that's why, like, other shows, like, remember when Bear Grills had a show?

[582] Yeah.

[583] There's, like, multiple camera people, and they're filming him doing wild things.

[584] It's like, that's what they wanted to do with him.

[585] Uh -huh.

[586] And Les is like, uh -uh.

[587] No, I do the real thing.

[588] This is the real thing.

[589] So, Les is obsessed with Bigfoot, too, so he went looking for Bigfoot.

[590] But there was, you know, on one of the episodes, they're looking at this footage.

[591] And I'm looking at footage that looks to me like a guy in a monkey suit.

[592] Uh -huh.

[593] See if you can find it.

[594] It's less drought, big foot foot.

[595] It's very controversial because the guy who claimed to have captured the video is very controversial.

[596] Imagine if it's real.

[597] I mean, and everybody's like disparaging you and you literally saw a big foot.

[598] Oh, of course.

[599] That would drive you nuts, man. Yeah, but watch this.

[600] Put it up.

[601] As I'm looking for it, he's looking for him again recently.

[602] Less is looking for it again recently?

[603] Bigfoot.

[604] He's got a video from a month ago in North Texas.

[605] But then you have to have the conversation.

[606] Is it one?

[607] If it's real.

[608] If it's real and he's right, then we look stupid.

[609] But, um...

[610] Is there one or is this a species?

[611] Brother, there's so many people out there in the wild.

[612] You know who doesn't see Bigfoot?

[613] Who?

[614] Hunters.

[615] The people that are really out there in the wild, they're not having these experiences.

[616] The people that have these experiences.

[617] That's a damn the point.

[618] And there's also a thing about bears.

[619] Bears walk on two legs all the time.

[620] Do they really?

[621] All the time.

[622] Like grizzly bears?

[623] Especially black bears.

[624] Especially black bears.

[625] There's hours of footage of black bears walking on two legs.

[626] Just walking to the woods on two legs.

[627] I've seen it.

[628] I've seen, there's hunter videos of that, yeah.

[629] I've seen it in person with my own eyes.

[630] I've watched a black bear stand on his two legs and walk.

[631] How tall can they get on, can a black bear get?

[632] Seven, eight feet?

[633] They're big animals, man. Oh yeah, I think a grizzly bear is the number one thing I'm afraid of, like in the world.

[634] They should, that should be right up there.

[635] Massive.

[636] They're a massive killing machine.

[637] I remember being a kid and seeing at the Columbus Zoo.

[638] They have an exhibit there where you can go inside their cave because that's where they spend most of their time there.

[639] And you can see them up against the glass.

[640] And laying down, it's like four and a half feet, five feet tall.

[641] What is this one?

[642] I don't know.

[643] Bigfoot Clinton from 2013.

[644] Is this the one?

[645] So there's one where, no, there's one where there's like a close up on Bigfoot's face.

[646] Oh, so that, yeah, but I can't find the one where he's walking or I can't even find video.

[647] That's it right down there.

[648] But it's just a picture.

[649] Okay, but look at that picture.

[650] Oh, my God.

[651] No. No. But when you see it, when you see it in the show, like it's like the guy zooms in on it, he gets a close up.

[652] It's like Bigfoot's just staring back up.

[653] Like all these years, Bigfoot's been shy, but Bigfoot's like, you know what?

[654] It's time to let these motherfuckers show.

[655] Time to let these motherfuckers know.

[656] I was trying to find it.

[657] I thought that's what you wanted.

[658] That is the video.

[659] It's so...

[660] Which one of these was Joey's?

[661] Was it this one?

[662] This one right here.

[663] This one?

[664] I'm going to spark that back up.

[665] Thank you.

[666] It's just if it...

[667] I mean, imagine if it is real.

[668] Imagine if that video is real, right?

[669] But it doesn't look real.

[670] And in my limited experience, most things that look fake are fake.

[671] That looks fake as fuck.

[672] Oh, damn it.

[673] That looks fake as fuck.

[674] Look, his hair looks perfect.

[675] It's nice and slick back.

[676] It's so perfect.

[677] Recently applied hair.

[678] That literally looks like Michael J. Fox and Teen Wolf.

[679] He looks clean.

[680] Looks way too clean.

[681] That's exact.

[682] If that was a homeless dude, wouldn't give him money.

[683] There's no way.

[684] Bear.

[685] Like, bear hair looks different than that.

[686] Everything looks different than that.

[687] I don't want to meet a bear up close.

[688] That's fucking terrifying.

[689] Yeah, they're a terrifying animal.

[690] But the thing is, like, when people, like, find video of bears walking on two legs, Jamie.

[691] I just want to imagine it's dusk, okay?

[692] And you're in the Pacific Northwest, so you're in this, sure.

[693] You're in this.

[694] It's not great.

[695] Thickly wooded area where it's like literally like a box of Q -tips.

[696] That's what the trees are like.

[697] Yeah.

[698] They're stacked in there.

[699] Have you ever been in the Pacific Northwest?

[700] Yeah, I love it up there.

[701] The mountains up there.

[702] Beautiful, right?

[703] The rainforest.

[704] Now, that's where a lot of sightings are.

[705] It's also where a lot of bears are.

[706] Now, look at this.

[707] Look at this motherfucker.

[708] That literally looks like a guy in a costume.

[709] That's crazy.

[710] I mean, what, trying to sun bear that went viral.

[711] Right.

[712] I will say no swinging arms, though.

[713] That would be the only sign that would make me think a bear or not bear.

[714] That bear had a wound, though.

[715] That bear was a bear that was missing one of its paws.

[716] One of the other bears probably bit his paw off.

[717] i saw a monkey in costa rica that had his hand bitten off and uh i was like wow what do you think happened to his hand and the the guy we were with like oh another monkey bit it off i was like really yeah probably when he was a baby i'm like really didn't somebody have their hands pulled off by a chimpanzee yes that's fucking terrifying yeah they're so strong they're so strong we can't even imagine They're so strong and they're so aware of the things you want, like your fingers.

[718] They bite your fingers off.

[719] Really?

[720] Really?

[721] Yeah.

[722] When chimpanzees attack you, they bite your fingers off.

[723] Because they know without your fingers you can't protect yourself.

[724] And that's part of what makes you a purse.

[725] They also grab your dick.

[726] They rip your dick off.

[727] No, they don't.

[728] Yes, they do.

[729] They bite your face off.

[730] They tear your eyes out.

[731] Yeah, they're not trying to kill you.

[732] Diabolical.

[733] They're trying to rip you apart.

[734] They're not even trying to kill you.

[735] They're trying to torture you.

[736] That is the most caveman shit I've ever heard of.

[737] It's far beyond.

[738] They're so different than us, but yet so similar.

[739] Have you ever seen Chimp Nation on Netflix?

[740] I don't think so.

[741] You've got to watch it.

[742] It's wild.

[743] The lady.

[744] What's up?

[745] The picture of the lady after the attack.

[746] Oh, don't show me. Don't show me it.

[747] Can I see it?

[748] Okay.

[749] Oh, fuck, I'm sorry.

[750] It's okay.

[751] Just put it on the screen.

[752] He could look at it.

[753] I don't want to see this lady's face.

[754] This is a lady that her friend had a chimpanzee that was a pet.

[755] And she...

[756] That's what she did look like?

[757] She went to visit the lady and the chimp tore her face apart.

[758] Oh, she looks like a belly button.

[759] Yeah, he tore her face apart.

[760] Holy shit.

[761] Yeah.

[762] And he was just upset at her because she was cock -blocking him.

[763] Shut up.

[764] Yeah.

[765] No. Yeah, yeah.

[766] She used to sleep with the chimpanzee.

[767] She gave the chimpanzee Xanax and wine.

[768] This lady was nuts.

[769] Oh, yeah.

[770] This was this Michael Jackson's monkey?

[771] This is living the best life ever.

[772] It was way worse than because it was a full -grown male and it was really big.

[773] It was like 200 pounds because it was like eating well.

[774] How big was the chimpanzee when they shot it?

[775] It says tiny chimp had been left alone.

[776] No, that's not the same one.

[777] The one that tore that lady apart was big.

[778] Yeah, this one actually said it was their friend.

[779] It wasn't the people who owned it.

[780] It was the couple's friend.

[781] It wasn't the people who owned it what?

[782] This says the one I'm looking at right now.

[783] He snapped and attacked a couple's friend.

[784] So he didn't even attack someone who had seen the chimp before?

[785] He was a new person?

[786] I don't know if there was the first time meeting.

[787] I was trying to catch up to that, like, what happened in there.

[788] Make sure this was the same one we're talking about.

[789] I mean, it didn't happen.

[790] They've happened.

[791] There's been quite a few chimpanzee attacks.

[792] One of them was really horrible.

[793] This guy was a...

[794] A guy who had the chimp as a pet and raised it, but it got too big and they couldn't take it anymore.

[795] So they brought it to a chimpanzee shelter.

[796] And it was his birthday.

[797] So they brought a cake for the chimp for his birthday.

[798] And the other chimps were so jealous that he got a cake and they didn't, that they got out of the cage and tore the guy apart.

[799] Yeah, because chimps get very, very jealous.

[800] The fact that they can even like...

[801] I know, that not only that, but...

[802] But they figured...

[803] They also...

[804] Such a human...