#476 - Honey Honey

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[4] What, you dirty freaks.

[5] Listen, we had an issue.

[6] We had a little sound issue.

[7] We wanted to make sure that everything was clean and smooth since you guys are here.

[8] And this is sound is a very important part of what you do.

[9] I don't have to tell you this.

[10] It is a key to your lifestyle.

[11] So, hey, what's up, fuckers?

[12] What are you doing?

[13] You know, we're chilling.

[14] We're so excited to be here.

[15] California.

[16] Yeah, what happened?

[17] Nashville lost its charm.

[18] Well, it was snowing when we left.

[19] Let's put it that way.

[20] Was it really?

[21] Yeah, it was snowing.

[22] And it's really interesting because the whole city really shuts down, like schools close.

[23] And I'm talking like a mild dusting.

[24] Just like, they just don't know what to do with it.

[25] Well, it's like rain out here.

[26] Right.

[27] If it rains here, people freak out.

[28] Well, worse though, right?

[29] The freak out you mean?

[30] Like Joe, yeah, Joey, was he, Tom Segura, Joey was with, I forget who he was with in Oregon.

[31] They were up in Oregon doing shows, and it, a freak snowstorm.

[32] Blanketed the city, and then it got icy rain below it.

[33] Yeah.

[34] So it was snow on top of icy rain.

[35] It was just the whole city just shut down.

[36] I mean, if they don't have the, you know, the salt trucks and all that stuff, and if people don't know how to drive it, they really shouldn't, you know, but it's really interesting.

[37] I mean, they closed school for like three days, and, you know, the roads were really fine.

[38] Right.

[39] It was just, it was amazing.

[40] What do you guys think about Nashville?

[41] Has the charm worn off?

[42] Are you bored with it already?

[43] Man, when we just talked and we came back the other night.

[44] We got into L .A. yesterday and walked into this bar and all these people that I knew were there.

[45] And all these friends, and it just felt good, man. And there's friends.

[46] Nashville is interesting because when you first get there, it's such an open community.

[47] And people welcome you in and everyone's sweet and you have friends.

[48] And all of a sudden you go out to a bar and you know people.

[49] But there's a difference when you see people you've been with for eight years, 10 years.

[50] It just feels good.

[51] Right, right.

[52] So coming back, I don't know.

[53] It's so, God damn beautiful.

[54] Got kind of wistful.

[55] Do you guys, do you miss the, like, the largeness of the city, or is it the people, the attitude?

[56] Like, did you feel different, like, a different vibe?

[57] I've never lived in Nashville.

[58] Yeah.

[59] But did you get, like, a different vibe from the people?

[60] Yeah, I mean, the day, well, first of all, I mean, you can drive around the whole city in, like, 15 minutes.

[61] I mean, it's just your, the days feel longer because you're not stuck in your car.

[62] trying to get here to there, like you do in L .A. It doesn't, you know, I mean, it's, you just sort of like, everything is really accessible, which is, which is great because as far as our productivity and working on the record, which is kind of why we went there, to write and have all this space, which are still not done.

[63] We didn't do it there.

[64] We keep coming back here to work on it.

[65] Yeah.

[66] It's true.

[67] So it's really interesting, like, how, you know, there's a number of reasons why, you know, it's a much more affordable town and all that stuff.

[68] But when you, when I come to California now, I really.

[69] really feel like this intense energy like you're like vibrating it's so exciting i just you know you kind of feel like it's like this shock of you're just awake and there's all this stuff happening there's so many so many fucking people right and nashville's great it's just like really chill is that good sometimes but sometimes but when you have it for a long time you kind of get a little stir crazy.

[70] It just doesn't have the diversity.

[71] Look at my crazy eyes.

[72] The diversity?

[73] What's what's going to do next?

[74] The diversity?

[75] Well, there's not, here it's a completely different game in terms of that.

[76] There, there's this really interesting smush going on of like Bible Belt conservatism and freaky people.

[77] You know, there's kind of the freaky people area, but that's spreading.

[78] Freaky people are spreading.

[79] We're winning.

[80] Yeah.

[81] Weirdos always win.

[82] We always win.

[83] It's more fun to be a weirdo.

[84] That Bible bell shit.

[85] Once you catch a few of them fucking kids, you know, and doing weirdos.

[86] weird shit.

[87] We're supposed to be all highfalutin.

[88] That's kind of game over there.

[89] Yeah, it's game over.

[90] They start losing credibility.

[91] I definitely feel a little more self -aware in Nashville as far as like my, you know, my fucking potty mouth and my, you know, just being loud and loud.

[92] And, you know, because there's a lot more, I feel like there's a lot.

[93] No, I am.

[94] I'm pretty obnoxious.

[95] I mean, you know, we all keep that way when you get a lickered up.

[96] You picked it up.

[97] But I think I think people are a little more reserved there.

[98] Of course, yeah.

[99] You know.

[100] I generally really enjoy playing there.

[101] I think it's one of my favorite places to play.

[102] I love the people there.

[103] I love the small town thing about it, too.

[104] I just think people are super friendly there.

[105] But I wonder if I would go crazy if I lived there.

[106] The Bible Belt thing would probably drive me crazy.

[107] But you can avoid it.

[108] Yeah.

[109] And honestly, it seems fairly segregated.

[110] It's like you just don't walk down that street.

[111] That's hilarious.

[112] Yeah, that street people believe in dinosaurs.

[113] This street, not so much.

[114] Oh, really?

[115] Somebody tweeted me something with some woman, you know, that was talking about that dinosaurs must have probably drowned and she wasn't trolling that Noah didn't have room for them on the arc so they probably all drowned.

[116] It would have named him.

[117] It was on her Facebook page and someone sent me a tweet, can you believe the silly bitch?

[118] And it was to her Facebook page because it was so ridiculous that random people that didn't even know her were going to her Facebook page.

[119] She'd be like, pitch, are you fucking crazy?

[120] Dinosaurus drowned.

[121] It's fucking Russell Crow's fault.

[122] He decided to do this goddamn Noah movie and the whole thing gets stirred up again.

[123] Russell Crowe?

[124] I've seen anything about that.

[125] He's Noah.

[126] It's a Darren Arfonsky, whatever's name is.

[127] Yeah.

[128] Arfonsky.

[129] Aronovsky.

[130] Aronovsky.

[131] Arnowski.

[132] Yeah.

[133] Who's apparently a bad motherfucker.

[134] He's done a lot of pretty badass movies, right?

[135] What else has he done?

[136] Oh, God.

[137] Did he do Gladiator?

[138] You know what?

[139] I don't want to out myself as Darren.

[140] I don't know who that is.

[141] Have you seen the ads for Noah?

[142] Nope.

[143] It looks pretty exciting.

[144] Damn.

[145] It looks exciting.

[146] I would love to give him a French braid.

[147] Would you really?

[148] Sure.

[149] Like, Rocka, Jamaica -style, look, he's checking what's going on?

[150] He's like the Denzel.

[151] Of white people?

[152] Yeah.

[153] No. He kind of does his...

[154] What did he say?

[155] He never got fat.

[156] He's got fat right now.

[157] That's muscle.

[158] He just looks warmer.

[159] He just looks warmer.

[160] He's corrupted this world.

[161] Whoa.

[162] He's filled it with violence.

[163] The guy's no cardio.

[164] So we must be destroyed.

[165] I thought he got game.

[166] I love movies like this I freak out You love this movie?

[167] Yeah, it's kind of fun Like, you know I don't want to, you know, fantasy kind of Like Lord of the Rings, I'm so gay for Lord of the Rings I'm like God Yeah, I really enjoy Lord of the Rings too I love fantasy movies They're fun Yeah I was, I had high hopes for the new Conan movie Didn't really work out It's terrible piece of shit But it was good like halfway into it I was like it's still pretty good And then ugh The new Conan is the guy from Game of Thrones who played the barbarian dude that was banging Calisi.

[168] Love that guy.

[169] I bet you do.

[170] Bet your eggs love him too.

[171] Oh, God.

[172] I bet that dude.

[173] He's a very nice guy, too.

[174] Big giant, handsome bastard.

[175] And he was the perfect Conan.

[176] Isn't he married to like Lenny Kravitz's daughter or something?

[177] Could be?

[178] I don't know.

[179] Yeah, the guy's pimping.

[180] That'll work.

[181] That'll last.

[182] Sorry.

[183] Way to be optimistic He's awesome I mean he's just too handsome To be running around there Married to anybody But the movie was Like it held promise You know it looked like it was going to be good But like all these fucking movies It eventually falls apart Unfortunately But I gave it a shot I don't remember that coming out Did they get good reviews or did Nope dog shit reviews It just wasn't that good But he's the perfect Conan If they had a good writer Like if you got James Cameron involved like some avatar type conan movie it would be the shit because the guy's the perfect conan he can act his ass off he's good you know he really would have been conan but they gave him a dog shit movie that's a bummer it is yeah and you can't turn that role it's like it's a huge role you know you can't turn it down and then then everything else falls through well nobody remembers well nobody remembers yeah i had no idea i think making movies must be hard fuck yeah it's impossible so easy so yeah you do it at home it's like it's so many people involved There's too many people.

[184] The beautiful thing about what you guys do is who do you, you know, you fucking talk amongst yourselves.

[185] You know, you say you want more of this and he says he wants more of that and together you find some sort of a happy medium and you create your shit.

[186] But did you imagine if you have a bunch of money people, well, I'm not saying it's easy at all, but it's a different type of pressure.

[187] It's less intervention than you making a movie, man. You got hundreds of people that have their say.

[188] You have so many people that you have to.

[189] Well, it depends on what kind of movie you're making.

[190] If you're making an independent movie Right You have your independent opinion You guys still have to deal with actors 15 people Some actor wants to do a fucking monologue In the middle of the scene You're like probably it's not the part The part is not He doesn't do a monologue man I'll do it if I could do a monologue Well it's a different movie then The guy's deaf He can't talk Well I just feel like He could be like the end Sike Here's what I had to say You know All about making choices It's just a choice It's just when you deal with a lot of people It's very difficult To have a creative vision that goes through.

[191] Do you guys have any, like, does your manager ever say, look, you need more jokes or more songs about this or more songs about that?

[192] We've had stuff like that before.

[193] Is it gross?

[194] Yeah.

[195] Well, I mean, we, at the end of the day, it's like if you, have we really?

[196] Well, yeah.

[197] We, you know, back in the day.

[198] I think we're too difficult to work with like that.

[199] We don't, right now, we don't have a manager right now.

[200] Maybe that's what happened.

[201] I met your manager.

[202] It all felt, was it, I mean, your agent or your manager?

[203] You met our, he was our manager, than he became an agent.

[204] Yeah, and that was an amicable thing, but just, I don't know, kind of like the tides of time.

[205] I don't like you.

[206] You don't like me. Let's get out of here.

[207] No, it was like, emical divorces.

[208] It was really.

[209] When people say amical divorces, like, well, it's amicable.

[210] No, it's not amicable.

[211] You got so sick of each other that you went to court, okay?

[212] Don't tell me it's amicable.

[213] You might like each other still as human beings, but that shit ain't amicable.

[214] You don't live together anymore.

[215] You don't fuck.

[216] You guys got divorce, son.

[217] That's not amicable.

[218] I heard a new term for that today, though.

[219] Because I was reading about the Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin.

[220] It just came up.

[221] Oh, no. Are they splitting up?

[222] It's a unconscious.

[223] Wait, wait, wait, wait, conscious unpartnering.

[224] Conscious unpartnering.

[225] Janet Gwyneth Paltrow splitting up with her man. Dispartnering.

[226] So sad.

[227] Look, I'm a fucking romantic.

[228] Hey, I bet you are.

[229] Let love live.

[230] I believe it.

[231] Hey, but listen, there's nothing wrong with love.

[232] Hey.

[233] But I'm just saying.

[234] How long do you want to live with Gweth Paltrow for, though?

[235] Or that guy from Colplay.

[236] I'm sure he's a fucking whiny vagina, too.

[237] Jesus Christ I mean anybody who writes and sings those songs beautiful songs as they may be Why are you not like A lot of tears, a single tears in us?

[238] How come your songs aren't about Celebrating the fact that you're a fucking rock star How come your songs aren't celebrating the fact Maybe that's what we should do Ben It's hard to write happy shit Yeah It truly is Do do do do do do do do do Woohoo It's a celebration You're unbelievable Cool and the gang know how to do it Yeah, Stevie Wonder knew how to do it.

[239] But most people, I bet most of the bands that you listen to write depressing shit a lot of the time.

[240] Right.

[241] We're pretty good.

[242] Is that easier?

[243] Yeah, we have no room to talk.

[244] It's just easy to access that, so, or easier, I guess.

[245] Is it easier also to not be, like, like, sort of a superficial dummy who's singing about happiness?

[246] Like, if you sing about moodiness, like, you're automatically deep and meaningful.

[247] Yeah, bro.

[248] Like, I remember that movie 21 grams?

[249] You remember that movie?

[250] God, I just saw that recently.

[251] It's so sad.

[252] It's so sad.

[253] And I made a decision after I saw that movie.

[254] I said, never again will I go see a movie that's trying to make me sad?

[255] Like, I don't, I don't buy the idea that it's deep because it makes you feel like shit.

[256] I don't buy it.

[257] I know what you're doing.

[258] This is a game here.

[259] Everything falls apart.

[260] Everything goes to shit.

[261] And at the end, you feel all this loss.

[262] And then I leave.

[263] I know what you did.

[264] You guys fucked me. You're just doing something deep.

[265] You're just doing something depressing.

[266] Depressing and deep are not the same goddamn thing.

[267] What are your thoughts on, on, I recently saw that movie, was it the Lone Ranger?

[268] Wait, no, not the Lone Ranger.

[269] There's some sense of deep moments there.

[270] Johnny Jepin, it's not a fucking Indian, okay?

[271] Not the Lone Ranger, not the Lone Ranger.

[272] The one with Mark Wahlberg.

[273] Oh my God, I'm so sorry.

[274] The lone soldier, lone survivor.

[275] Lone survivor, God, Samsonite.

[276] It was, but that was based off of a true story and actually has some relevance as far as the reality that we live in right now.

[277] Yes, definitely.

[278] But that is a little bit different.

[279] That's not necessarily like, hey, I'm making this movie to fuck you up.

[280] Yeah.

[281] But it really fucked me up.

[282] I had to go drive around for like 20 minutes after I left the movie theater.

[283] And it was, I mean, did you see it?

[284] I watched part of it.

[285] Those movies kind of bum me out.

[286] Marcus LaTrell is a guy I've met at the UFC a few times.

[287] The guy who's the story is based on.

[288] He's actually in the movie.

[289] He had a part.

[290] He did.

[291] Yeah.

[292] but he um you know his real story you've met him yeah i have a real hard time um watching dramatizations with marky mark and someone else playing these guys i know it was awesome and i'm not putting him down i love mark robert i'm a huge fan i thought he was great in that movie with the rock he's fucking great kid's a great actor it's not that it's just i know he's marky mark he'll always be jerk digler though he would yeah whoever he is he's mark walberg i know he's mark walberg and I know who the guy is.

[293] I know that guy, Marcus LaTrell, is a real person.

[294] So when I'm watching a recreation, it's weird, but I can't separate myself from the art. I enjoy them much more in works of fiction than I do in recreations.

[295] I never enjoy recreations because I'm always like, that didn't fucking happen like that.

[296] That's probably bullshit.

[297] So you weren't pumped about Titanic is what you're saying?

[298] Well, Titanic is different because it had Leonardo and Kate.

[299] And the chemistry there just went right to the trigger.

[300] I knew it.

[301] He was like a tramp and a young.

[302] man with passion, poetry in his heart.

[303] No, it's just, I think, I don't like recreations, you know.

[304] I just, I know there's too much fuckery involved in the creation of those things.

[305] So are you more of a kind of like a frozen guy?

[306] I love frozen.

[307] I saw it twice.

[308] I love this.

[309] I have a five -year -old and a three -year -old.

[310] They love it.

[311] You come over my house at any point in time, and you hear, let it go, let it go, okay, hold me back in any way.

[312] They'll start singing at the drop of a hat.

[313] They jump up on the couch and start singing.

[314] A, little girls love princesses, man There's nothing you can do about that There's this rapper that has the second best song But he's like, man, I could have had the number one song If it wasn't because of the Frozen soundtrack Can you imagine that?

[315] Frozen is a good fucking movie, man, for little kids It's not a good movie for adults But as an adult, you can enjoy it Like, I find that there's a lot of these movies That they're made for little kids But they do a really good job And you can actually sit and enjoy the movie with your kids I was like, I saw Mr. Peabody's movie.

[316] The Lego movie is a perfect usable.

[317] It's a good fucking movie.

[318] I don't see that by yourself.

[319] Did you not?

[320] Easy there.

[321] Yeah, I did.

[322] It was a good movie.

[323] And it brought me up.

[324] I felt like I was walking out with a whole bunch of friends.

[325] I saw Mr. Peabody in the Wayback Machine this weekend, whatever the fuck it's called.

[326] It's really good.

[327] First of all, the animation is fucking amazing.

[328] Oh, the dog.

[329] The dog that made a time machine.

[330] It's fucking badass.

[331] It's fun.

[332] I didn't see it.

[333] It's interesting.

[334] It's fun.

[335] know and it's it's also like the just what they can do with animation now when they're operating the time machine you're like god damn they make shit look beautiful you know make scooby -doo look like dog shit you know you stop and look at the kind of like this is mr peabody really this was good yeah no you got to see the uh the time machine series when he actually uses the time machine you got to find look for it and find a video that when when they operate the time machine you see the graphics involved it's like oh my god God, these kids today, they're so spoiled with beauty.

[336] It's true.

[337] I liked Up.

[338] I was a big fan of up.

[339] Up was great.

[340] But that's depressing as fuck.

[341] That guy's essentially suicidal.

[342] No, I think it's good to have a little darkness for kids.

[343] You have to get a little introduction into reality.

[344] I am.

[345] I am because I'll be honest with you.

[346] I'm not going to get into details, but like I had a real solid shattering of my idealism in my adulthood that was like really intense.

[347] And it's interesting when you sort of.

[348] I mean I could have prepared you for that Well yeah Fuck yeah No I'm kind of fucking around But I'm not fucking around No but I'm serious As far as like you know The princess reality for little kids You know if you If you sort of had this like fairy tale Right It's just and not in an aggressive way So my ex -boyfriend wrote this book That is actually It's a children's book It's called Kate's First Mate And it's about relationships But it's written as a children's book And it's actually really amazing and he sells it like hotcakes and all these like kind of little hips or stores in California.

[349] And it's published.

[350] And it's a really interesting look at, you know, choosing a partner for, you know, when you're a kid and just sort of, rather than like Prince German comes in on a white horse, you know, it's just sort of has this really great way to kind of just give a small introduction to kids about, you know, reality.

[351] And sometimes it doesn't work out and you go through the storm and then you come out, you know.

[352] captaining the ship with your uh with your partner you know what's interesting man man you know man people friends babe what's interesting friends is how um how much they're trying to take when they take old stories and they pull all the teeth out of them like it's it's really kind of fascinating like like the big bad wolf or any of these stories like there there's this uh this trend what is this Uh, there's a lot of people that think Disney's Frozen is teaching kids to be, like, gay.

[353] Like, Disney's gay propaganda.

[354] Um, excellent.

[355] Fucking idiots.

[356] Why, what's, what's gay about Frozen?

[357] They, they said that the, the main character, uh, with the other girl, I never saw it, so I don't know, but.

[358] The main character, the sister, that they're gay?

[359] Yeah.

[360] Oh, my God.

[361] Just don't even click on that.

[362] And it's just moron.

[363] And about bestiality, too, because of, uh, the animals were her friends.

[364] Oh, great.

[365] And it's teaching kids about beastality.

[366] What about your pet?

[367] You should bring that person on the podcast.

[368] I'd like to see that one.

[369] Not even.

[370] They'd know where the podcast is.

[371] Fuck all these fucking dummies.

[372] God damn it.

[373] I don't remember what we were talking about.

[374] How they took the old stories.

[375] Yeah, they take all these stories, like the Big Bad Wolf and Little Red Riding Hood.

[376] And they kind of like dress it down.

[377] They take away all the violence and scariness out of it.

[378] Wait, are you talking about like for kids?

[379] For kids.

[380] Oh, okay.

[381] Like Rapunzel.

[382] Here's the perfect.

[383] example yeah that shit was scary like the real ones were really scary that witch she she took repunzel cut her hair off and pretended that the guy was climbing her hair and then pushed him off and he got blinded that's the original story fell into a briar bush and his eyes got fucking gouged out that's the original story if you read the original one you're like whoa all that brother's grim stuff all that stuff was dark you know like sticking out a dead chicken bone they think it's their finger yeah yeah yeah well and the wolf ate little red riding hood and the grandmother i mean she died in the original one the in the original one she was eaten by the wolf and then somehow another the hunter cut her out of the wolf or something like that you know what i do remember that yeah the grandma and her they're both okay cut them out like yeah let's bring it back to real town you know this is what's really happening well it's just weird how you know they try to like slowly but surely over time take the teeth out of a lot of those things.

[384] It's like if you go back and watch cartoons from like when I was a kid, they were all about violence.

[385] Cartoons were all about anvils falling on people's heads and explosions, spinning a duck's beak around a circle.

[386] Yeah, but then you have some really terrible things that there's never one thing, one reason to blame for when there's like a school shooting or something like that.

[387] But then that is the basis of changing the whole, you know, viewing demographic and, watering it down so it's not as violent like you know i don't i don't really have an opinion on it but but that's where it comes from i don't know if there's a direct correlation between viewing violence and enacting violence i'm really not sure if there is nor am i'm not sure if it's ever been proven because you see more violence now than ever and i would say that it's probably the least violent time we've ever existed in uh on earth but i know that kids have done shit they saw in commercials or in cartoons rather my cousin mikey hit his brother over the head with a frying pan because he's I thought it was going to turn into one of their shapes.

[388] I heard that.

[389] I heard other people do that.

[390] The head boners.

[391] Fucking cracked him over the head because he thought it was going to like turn to the shape of a frying pan.

[392] He fucking walked up to his little brother.

[393] He went bong.

[394] And he hears screaming and the, like, dad beat the shit out of him.

[395] It was craziness.

[396] Oh, man. Yeah.

[397] It was dark.

[398] It was dark.

[399] How did you come out?

[400] Is he okay?

[401] He's fucked up.

[402] That kid's always been fucked up.

[403] I avoided him ever since I was like seven.

[404] Right when I get out of Catholic school, I avoided my cousin, too.

[405] I don't know.

[406] I don't know.

[407] It might not even been my cousin, Mikey.

[408] Mike may have actually been his neighbor now that I think about it.

[409] Either way, not good to hit kids in the head with a frying pan.

[410] And he learned it from a television show.

[411] Some cartoon, you bong, and your head is like, you got to do that thing.

[412] It shakes it back.

[413] Nobody ever dies, but everybody gets blown to fucking smithereens.

[414] I mean, all this shit that happened to Wally Coyote.

[415] And, you know, at the end, he would pop his head up and fucking dust would fall off of him.

[416] He was fine.

[417] That fucker.

[418] but it was all violence there's none of that today you will never see a kids show today that has violence in it they just don't have it everything's cute I don't know kung fu -panda was pretty hardcore we're raising pussies no one shot the panda panda should have been hit with a fucking missile yeah there was a lot of guns there were some cannonballs in that were there rifles yeah cannonballs a little bit but no one got hurt right no no there was no serious injury that's important humans were hurt feelings feelings oh feelings are more valuable sometimes but at the same time you have this whole world of really fucked up abstract cartoons and shit right that is available to kids it's not presented to them really but if you google some weird stuff um you can find anything you want you can be a five year old now and probably if you're a five year old that's googling your parents are doing a shitty fucking job listen you don't you don't leave five year olds in front of a fucking computer yeah i don't have kids i can't i've no no it's a lot of older than age i was a nanny back in the day you were saying something no no that was that was that I just figured this was me assuming or guessing that you can get into some weird stuff, too.

[419] You could if you had no oversight, but you should have oversight when you're five.

[420] It's like we were talking about when I was a, when I did a magic show on Fisherman's Wharf when I was eight.

[421] Why did I do that?

[422] Because nobody was watching me. It's ridiculous.

[423] Like, you know, anybody tells you I was raised correctly, you know, I point to that and go, do you think it's an eight -year -old should be able to just walk down the street and not tell anybody where he's going?

[424] That's ridiculous.

[425] Like that's not a good move That's pretty profound though That you were like Did you take the train or something?

[426] You walked Holy shit Well I lived in San Francisco Yeah no it was during the day I lived pretty close to Fisherman's Wharf And I noticed that people were doing these One person shows on Fisherman's War If they had like a little box out And people would throw money in it So I did a magic show Wow People threw money And it's almost good that no one stopped you right You didn't have oversight And you figure your shit out Maybe something horrible could have Yeah I almost got raped by some dude did you but you did you yeah i got lucky the librarian the librarian saw the guy and yelled i was ready to go out are you serious car yeah no way yeah yeah oh my god that was the same age i was um i was really into monsters like monster books and stuff like that so i was at the library in the monster section pulling out these books and this guy came up to me and told me that he had monster books in his car and uh i didn't know any better i was only eight years old so i was like okay you got monster books like i thought it's just a guy with monster books you're like i'll sit in your laugh for some monster books And as I was walking towards the car, as I was walking towards the car, the librarian starts screaming, you know, you get away from him.

[427] That guy just got out of prison.

[428] That guy just got out of prison.

[429] Really?

[430] Jesus Christ.

[431] Yeah, apparently, he was like a known petto.

[432] And they would have to watch him when he would go to the library because you'd go scouting around for kids.

[433] That's some scary shit.

[434] I had some weird stuff when I was a kid, you know.

[435] There was this older boy who was in the neighborhood.

[436] And I was a little tomboy.

[437] always be like playing in the backyard you know like you know i don't know like chopping trees whatever we grew up on an acre um and i had this really interesting moment where i was in the backyard and i was obsessed with fishing i loved to fish i still do and um and i was talk about it you know i was really weird didn't have a lot of friends and this older boy was like maybe 14 and i was nine or 10 comes out of the wood line he's like hey suzanne there's a large mouth bad in the creek.

[438] You've got to come see it right now.

[439] You got to come see it.

[440] And I remember, like, being, okay, let me get my shoes.

[441] Like, I'm going to, okay, I got to go to the house.

[442] And, like, I think my parents are out.

[443] And my sisters and I would always, like, when we were kids, everybody would be running around, like, playing, you know, baseball.

[444] Like, there was, like, a pack of kids.

[445] And my sisters were home.

[446] But I didn't know where they were.

[447] And I ran upstairs to get my shoes.

[448] And then all of a sudden, I had this moment of, uh, I was totally terrified.

[449] I was just, all of a sudden, I felt like really weird.

[450] and I went upstairs in my bedroom, which overlooked the backyard, and I watched him, and I didn't leave.

[451] I got really scared.

[452] And I watched him, and I watched him kind of wait around for a while and leave.

[453] And, like, later, this kid was, like, years later, he was, like, blowing up squirrels in his treehouse, and, like, he was hurting, like, the neighborhood animals and, like, got into some serious trouble.

[454] He was a violent kid.

[455] And now as an adult, like, there's no way there was a large Mountbats in the creek it was like this tiny little creek and I really do when I think about it I feel like I avoided a really weird situation wow who fucking knows who fucking knows I mean you might have been the first one that he killed it might have been the the circumstances were right you never know but I really like it was like it's it's so funny like I don't remember everything but I will never forget that feeling of like like I was just terrified I didn't want to go back and you never know like certain circumstances like people are like really close to doing something fucked up and never do it until a circumstance arises.

[456] That might have been the circumstance that pushed the guy over the edge.

[457] Well, the person that blows up animals in their treehouse has some serious issues if you ask me. Well, anybody who does tortures animals, that's like one of the first things they look for.

[458] You know, when you find out that your son has been nailing a squirrel to a board and sticking sticks up its ass and stuff like that, like that kid's a monster.

[459] Like, you got a bunch of bad connections.

[460] And you should take the little fucker fishing.

[461] Take them out in the middle of the ocean.

[462] Hey, jean.

[463] And then a button.

[464] Can I have the fucking.

[465] Right.

[466] Sorry.

[467] It didn't work out.

[468] Sorry, buddy.

[469] Well, see you later.

[470] Sorry, pal.

[471] I raised a monster.

[472] Take it out.

[473] Take it out to the ocean.

[474] Still love fishing, though.

[475] Fishin's great.

[476] Fishing's great.

[477] Psycho's bad.

[478] We rented a pontoon boat in Tennessee.

[479] That was really fun.

[480] Tennessee's got some great bass fishing.

[481] Didn't catch a fish, but man, drank a whole bunch of beer.

[482] Got a sun tan, if you can believe that, because I'm white as goat cheese.

[483] It's very rare.

[484] So are you guys going to move back?

[485] What are you going to do?

[486] Ben.

[487] We got to make some money first.

[488] We're talking about it.

[489] Yeah.

[490] We got to finish this record.

[491] Can we live in your basement?

[492] My basement is an isolation tank in it.

[493] Oh, God.

[494] We're in there.

[495] Hey, did we talk about that thing?

[496] We didn't tell you for putting us in that tank.

[497] Did you get in that?

[498] Yeah.

[499] Yeah, we met crash.

[500] How was the experience?

[501] Then we didn't talk about it.

[502] How was it?

[503] It was, it was awesome.

[504] I kind of freaked out at one point.

[505] Did you?

[506] Yeah, because I started to get really, I was like, oh my God.

[507] God, what if a, would have crashed forgot to close the air, open the air thing?

[508] And I started to like, then I was like, I can't breathe.

[509] I can't breathe.

[510] And I was like, trying to find the door.

[511] And then I got the water in my eye.

[512] And I was like, oh, God.

[513] Oh, my God.

[514] Oh, my God.

[515] Oh, yeah, I lost it.

[516] You panicked.

[517] How dare you?

[518] It was a real cute, precious moment I had naked in that tank.

[519] Wow.

[520] That's hilarious.

[521] Yeah, next time, relax.

[522] I know.

[523] Well, you know, story.

[524] You'll be fine.

[525] It's hard.

[526] That's a new experience.

[527] Yeah that is not a something I'm accustomed to that's the thing about it It's like it's not one of those things you get used to the first time and you get better at it the like my body's so used to it that I get in there And my body goes oh we're in the tank and then I just let go like immediately But like the first when I first started doing it I'd be like I had all this busy work like I'd want to itch something It's like meditation Yeah, but now you could just settle in But you can come up with some great ideas in there too It's like you never get a chance to be alone with yourself like you do in that tank if you really want to be a moody depressing fuck and write some shit that's going to make people cry no thanks that's the spot that's the spot in a box of blackness or figure things out you know i just think there's no better place for me to figure things out like any times i have real problems in my life anytime there's any disputes or any time i'm doing something i don't want to be doing i get in that tank and it sort of provides me with the resources to come up with the right answers other than that tank you don't you don't get alone time like that you never get a long time from your body or that's where you meditate no i don't never meditate outside the tank yeah except i guess a little bit doing yoga i guess a little bit of that's meditation but it's yoga you know it's the whole thing the tank is just the mind you know but i don't i don't fuck around with regular meditation to me it's like it's like running when you have a car like i want to get to Vegas um probably better drive you know it took a lot longer to walk like just Why would you walk to Vegas?

[528] Oh.

[529] This is what Oaming is.

[530] It's walking in Vegas.

[531] Oh.

[532] I don't know.

[533] I'm into it.

[534] I'm not going to lie.

[535] I'm already like calming down, just listening to you do that.

[536] If you get the tank in the basement and O'm in the tank, it's a to next level shit.

[537] I Ome in the tank.

[538] I do these breathing exercises in the tank where I breathe in for one minute and then I breathe out for.

[539] For one minute.

[540] Holy shit.

[541] Yeah, one slow minute breathing in and one slow minute breathing out.

[542] Breathing out is really hard.

[543] So when was it that you discovered that you, in fact, actually were Jason Bourne?

[544] You know, the first Jason Bourne movies I enjoyed, but the new one with that fucking guy?

[545] I'd still see.

[546] Jeremy Redder.

[547] There's too much fake karate going on.

[548] Too much shit that the body can't do.

[549] I'm not buying it.

[550] Can't you let us live in our fantasy world?

[551] Guys living in the fucking frozen north in his underwear.

[552] They come and get him.

[553] They're going to activate them.

[554] Nothing's wrong with that.

[555] Guy's going to get hypothermia.

[556] He's a fucking human.

[557] Jumping off of buildings, landing on people's heads.

[558] No angle tweaks.

[559] The movies aren't real?

[560] Nothing.

[561] I'm not buying it.

[562] And here's the big one.

[563] Doesn't have sex with anybody.

[564] I know.

[565] That is a bummer.

[566] That's a super bummer.

[567] It's ridiculous.

[568] Spies don't do that.

[569] Spies are boning everywhere.

[570] Well, it's what we're doing here.

[571] The pusification of the American male is almost complete.

[572] Our superheroes don't even get pussy.

[573] James Bond fucked everyone, okay?

[574] He was from England, God damn it, and he fucked everyone.

[575] He fucked everyone.

[576] He drank.

[577] We even know how he takes his fucking martinis.

[578] Shaken, never stirred.

[579] We know how he likes his drugs.

[580] That's fucking the murderer's drug distribution.

[581] He got mad pussy.

[582] He had so much pussy.

[583] He had a movie called Octopus.

[584] I mean, Jesus, fucking Christ.

[585] No, he's a winner.

[586] Meanwhile, Jeremy Renner saves the girl who's hotter than the surface of the fucking son.

[587] he's hanging out with her all movie long obviously she's enthralled with him and the end of the movie is so symbolic of the the neutering of the american male that even these super badass murdering superstars sit like they're on the boat together and they're sitting across from each other on a table why do you think they didn't give us some action i don't know how they got out of that um there was a there was a very intense intimate look into each other's eyes Barely.

[588] That was, like, once the credits roll, we're going to bone.

[589] No, no, no, I didn't see that.

[590] Why couldn't you bone before the credits rolled?

[591] I didn't see that at all.

[592] I didn't see what you're seeing.

[593] Oh, yeah.

[594] I didn't see any boning going on ever in their future.

[595] No, no, no, no, it was unspoken, Joe.

[596] I think his dick's broke.

[597] I think in order to be able to flip like that, they did something.

[598] In real life, I'm sure it works great.

[599] But that Jeremy Renner in the movie, the Jason Bourne guy, who wasn't Jason Bourne, he was the new guy.

[600] I don't know what I'm talking.

[601] He was another guy.

[602] He was the, yeah, whatever his fucking name was.

[603] Born, born with a broken dip.

[604] I don't think he's.

[605] The guy's kicking everybody's ass.

[606] This girl clearly wants to throw down.

[607] She's like staring at it.

[608] I'm like, oh my God, you're the best.

[609] You saved my life over and over again.

[610] And you're single and I'm single like, what are we fucking around for?

[611] And he's just standing there, staring at her.

[612] Like, I am your robot.

[613] I will kill for you, but I cannot fuck.

[614] See.

[615] He didn't have any romantic attachment to her.

[616] There's no kissing.

[617] There's no hugging.

[618] I don't think we can blame that on.

[619] On the next Jason Bourne guy, whatever his name is, because it's not his fault.

[620] No, he's symptomatic of a problem we have in society.

[621] The sexuality of the American male is a dangerous thing.

[622] The neutering of the American male is a lot of people's goals.

[623] Ultimately, as we move away from our primate warring lifestyle into this transcendental experience where we pass through the next dimension and we exist in the world of information purely without any of the needs of the flesh that's what we're moving away from that's why people don't want to be hairy that's why everybody wants to shave your bush shave everything now it's coming back though it's like 70s Bush is making a comeback I don't know it's like skinny jeans it's not gonna last when bush comes to shove when bush comes to shove I think it's all the same thing I think we're moving away from from animal instincts and so even in our superheroes We want no animal instincts.

[624] He's just a killing martial arts robot who doesn't want to fuck.

[625] At the end of it, he sits down there, and there's no threat whatsoever that he only saved all those people because he wants to fucker.

[626] But don't you think that's because the people that wrote the movie wanted to widen their audience instead?

[627] Well, that's one way of looking at it, but why would that be appealing?

[628] Why would that be appealing?

[629] Definitely.

[630] More people watch porn than almost anything on the internet.

[631] It's some insane amount of bandwidth allocated to porn.

[632] I thought porn wasn't real.

[633] That's all right.

[634] Brian's dad.

[635] Sorry, Gary.

[636] Sorry, Gary.

[637] He'll all together.

[638] One, two, three.

[639] Sorry, Gary.

[640] You're taking it out of context like you always do, Brian.

[641] I'm tired of your bullshit.

[642] Just because you're on the internet doesn't mean you have to get back at me for everything that ever happened.

[643] Oh, man. Yeah.

[644] I don't know.

[645] I don't know what it is, but I think there is a move without a doubt to moving away from animal instincts.

[646] But I think there's a female empowerment thing going on, and that's an animal instinct, right?

[647] What female empowerment do you think?

[648] Well, I'm actually, and I'm, you know, I'm just going to go with it, but I was stumbled across some pornography.

[649] And for the first time, how was that?

[650] How was that?

[651] Well, I was brushed my teeth, and I stepped on a sock and went flying forward, and my head hit a certain key on the laptop.

[652] It was for YouTube, not you porn.

[653] I'm just going to barrel through this, because I thought it was interesting.

[654] It was purely sociological So they There's like this brain Now I'm picturing you beat I'm talking out I bet he beats off I did Joe please I do you know I don't even think about it Is there crying involved Maybe Sometimes I don't give me what I need Wait as he comes He goes Now I realize the The path that I'm going down I feel like I should wheel around No no no no We'll get there Well this was the first It was like a casting couch scenario, right?

[655] But they usually have the casting couch.

[656] This is just in porn.

[657] This is just in general.

[658] Right.

[659] Those are Greg Fitzsimmons' favorites.

[660] You bring in a chick and you kind of debase her and, you know, make her do whatever you want her to do.

[661] But this flipped it around completely and had this chick completely dominating a whole group of guys.

[662] There's a whole series of them.

[663] I've never seen that before.

[664] That's rare as fuck, dude.

[665] You're talking about trends.

[666] It's coming around, though.

[667] It's coming around.

[668] And Suzanne had this on her phone?

[669] Is it bookmarked?

[670] Damn, Ben.

[671] How'd you get my pass code?

[672] Double bookmarked.

[673] Put the cloud.

[674] Save the cloud.

[675] Yes and email.

[676] Ask to be involved.

[677] I don't know.

[678] I mean, for women, yeah, most certainly.

[679] But it's also like, think about the fantasies that exist for men, the really unrealistic fantasies of, you know, you order a pizza, and the pizza girl comes over, and she's wearing a bikini, and next thing, you know, she's blowing you and your friend, you know, and you're both banging her.

[680] Is that realistic?

[681] Is that coming around?

[682] No, and it doesn't represent real life.

[683] It represents what people want.

[684] She just came over to take a shower.

[685] But, I mean, if you wanted, like, porn for women, I don't think would even be that.

[686] I think porn for women would probably be far more romantic, you know.

[687] Also, I think there's a difference between the visual aspect, like, what men find appealing, what women find appealing.

[688] So, like, women are into, like, books, like 50 shades of gray type pornography.

[689] I don't know about that.

[690] But some women are into less visual representation.

[691] of sexuality they don't watch it as much you know i mean women don't watch it as much as men do but you never know how much stigma is involved with that you know i can't this this website is but you do though so women stay away from it not necessarily they don't want to but i don't know about that because women watch what they want when they're alone you're alone it makes a difference if it's actually like real do you know i mean like if it's not like if someone's actually if a woman's actually coming that's that's the best one if you ask me as far as like staged porn because if it's just for the for the dude you know right there's a lot of that too right and that plays up for the dude you can kind of sniff that out i'm not trying to give myself up here sniff it out you're a pointer you got one paw she's coming that's exactly how it is he really did eat her out oh god i need she likes them arf arf yeah um i see i i think a lot of women are into porn.

[692] Don't get me wrong.

[693] I'm not delusional.

[694] But I think that there's a lot of, a lot more women are into literature pornography than men are in a literature pornography.

[695] Like almost no men are into literature pornography.

[696] It's very rare.

[697] That's so funny.

[698] I'm reading this book called 1Q84, a Murakami book.

[699] And it's, it's really interesting.

[700] One Q84?

[701] Yeah.

[702] What is it about?

[703] It's, um, God, it's, it's hard to explain.

[704] It's, it's, fiction um and it's it's kind of a spin there there's a lot of 1984 um kind of like the the author is you know truly a orwell fan and there's just kind of a lot of nuances as far as like um this kind of i don't want to say apocalyptic but um god the it's about a lot of confusing things but technically it's a romance but there's all this sort of there's like uh kind of like two worlds colliding.

[705] There's sort of like there's two moons in the sky and there's kind of this really interesting concept.

[706] But there's a lot of graphic sexual content.

[707] And Ben and I were sitting on a plane.

[708] He was like, Jesus, every time I look over, there's, you know, there's a bonner going on.

[709] There's like a taut nipple.

[710] Like I just catch.

[711] And that's just right.

[712] This is an 800 page book.

[713] And every single time I glance over.

[714] It's really funny because I'm not, it's really a great, it's a really great story.

[715] Um, and I'll be honest with you.

[716] I'm not, I'm not one that's like, yeah, I need a fucking dirty novel to, you know, whatever, um, butter my scone.

[717] But I, I definitely, like, we've been traveling a lot.

[718] We've had a few flights for shows recently and when I'm reading it, you know, come on.

[719] Yeah, I'm looking at it.

[720] That's what I'm saying.

[721] So, so when I'm reading it in public and I'm sitting on an airplane, I feel like, like I pull the book closer to myself because I'm just like, oh my God, you know, what if...

[722] It's just, you know, it's such a...

[723] Well, it's interesting that books can have sexuality, like raw sexuality mixed in with the story, but they can't have that in a movie.

[724] Like, a movie can never have people, like, graphically fucking.

[725] What about...

[726] I just saw a movie of people graphically fucking.

[727] It was called Blue is the warmest color.

[728] There's a French.

[729] You know what I'm?

[730] Oh, it's French?

[731] Yes.

[732] Oh, William?

[733] Remember Brown Bunny?

[734] Do you remember that?

[735] Yeah.

[736] That guy is, like, blackballed because of that movie.

[737] Is he really?

[738] Yeah.

[739] What is this fucking?

[740] name vincent gallo yeah yeah he mean i literally saw um these these people reviewing that movie when you know informally they were talking about it and they were like he's a piece of shit he'll never work again and all because he made that chloe's venders were they just having dick envy she just sucked his dick on screen and he came all over on screen like you actually see him orgasm in the movie but the movie is before that a real movie it's like this is just a sex scene in a movie where you actually get to see the sex and they decided to just go for it so they decided to make a movie and have why is it okay to have a sex scene where you don't see sex but when you have a sex where you see sex like they were angry at him because he made them watch that like that was I was listening to this man and these two women talk about it and their specific point was that they were angry that he made them watch that scene.

[741] He made them watch that scene.

[742] I mean if they were watching the movie everybody had to know that that was happening.

[743] Well, everybody, I think they were one of the first people to see it.

[744] And I think everybody that went in to see that movie knew there was a controversial thing like that had gotten out.

[745] But I don't think they realized you're going to watch Vincent Gallo literally put his dick in a girl's mouth.

[746] And it was a long, you know, a scene.

[747] It wasn't like for a brief, like American Werewolf in London, you see the wolf and then it cuts to black.

[748] No, this is like, it wasn't just you saw his dick and you saw her mouth and then cut, you know, that might have been enough.

[749] lengthy do you think that i mean i didn't see the movie so i don't really have a point of reference but i watched the one scene but i mean do you do you think that that was like hey i want to do this just to do this or do you think it was really a form of artistic expression i personally think it was a form of artistic expression that he also wanted to do i think it's both and i think that's part of what people got angry about with the idea is that like i'm looking when i see a guy act really well i'm looking at dick wagging already you know I mean that's what you're doing by but in your expression you know in your expression of you know the powerful the anger of your acting I'm looking at your tears you're screaming at someone I'm also aware that you're aware that you're awesome at doing that and in me being aware that you're aware that you're awesome in doing that there's a certain amount of inherent dick wagging it's one of the reasons why people have like an almost automatic distaste for some famous men or some powerful man or men that are in the public spotlight.

[750] It's because they know they have to be at least somewhat enamored of themselves, which is a form of dick wagging.

[751] So when you're doing that dick wagging and then you're also sticking your dick in Chloe's Vaginjazzizi's mouth.

[752] I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ, man, you're double dick wagon.

[753] That's what you're doing.

[754] You're dick wagon because you're up there on the big screen and your dick wagon because you're standing there.

[755] and these ridiculous, fucking tailored, weird clothes because you want to be interesting with your fucking handmade shoes.

[756] I just want to hit you.

[757] But you didn't see the movie.

[758] I saw the scene.

[759] I don't really want to hit him.

[760] I probably get along with that, dude.

[761] I probably like him.

[762] You know, I think he's probably a freak.

[763] You should totally bring him on the podcast.

[764] That's really interesting.

[765] Well, he wasn't around for a while, and then he did a vodka commercial.

[766] There was a vodka commercial that he was a part of some big vodka campaign.

[767] But I don't know, like, what kind of film?

[768] he's been in since then, but I do know that there was, from my limited amount of experience in show business, because I kind of, when I started doing Fear Factor, I basically divorced myself almost entirely of the acting world.

[769] I was only in it for like five years when I was doing news radio.

[770] And then when I started doing that, I was just out of that world.

[771] So I never hung out with those people, I'm not around those people.

[772] But when I did, my limited interaction with people led me to think that they're probably, Almost universally, people wanted him blackballed because of that movie.

[773] Wow.

[774] Like, it was so common.

[775] It definitely crosses the boundary of, like, you know, if you have, like, when people have controversial sex scenes that come up, like, I kind of remember eyes wide shut.

[776] That's just what comes to mind.

[777] When that movie came out, people were like, oh, my God, you know, there's some serious shit in there.

[778] Yeah.

[779] And then, you know, keep pushing the envelope.

[780] But I think, you know, an actual sex scene in a non, quote, unquote, pornographic film, it's like all of a sudden all the filmmakers are like oh what the fuck you know why did you you totally like you know cheating almost you can do that and now everybody's paying attention to it yeah well it just it's not um the the formal kind of traditional sense of a sex scene so i'm sure filmmakers would be a little bit perturbed but i don't give a shit that's just my take on it apparently homeboy still doing movies good for him he did buffalo 66 was a really interesting movie too brown bunny was in 2004 and he did a couple of movies since then you know here and there like little parts and weird shit Joe do you ever get movie offers or anything like that these days?

[781] Yeah not good ones but yeah they're never it's never worth it because it might even it was like one of them was a big movie but it wasn't that much money and I had to go somewhere for like a couple of weeks and I was like you gotta pay me a lot of money and it's got to be worth my while It's going to be interesting for me to want to do it.

[782] Or I've got to know somebody in it that I'm going to enjoy hanging out with.

[783] Sure.

[784] Like, otherwise, like, I'd rather just do a free podcast.

[785] Sounds ridiculous.

[786] I'd rather do a set at the ice house.

[787] Like, at a certain point in time, it's like, what do you want?

[788] Do you want a bunch of money or do you want to do things that you enjoy doing?

[789] And the more you say, I want a bunch of money, the less you're going to do things you enjoy doing.

[790] And the more you say, I want to do things I enjoy doing, somehow or another, the more money you start making.

[791] Yeah.

[792] It doesn't make any sense.

[793] Ben, that's it.

[794] Let's do that.

[795] You're already doing it.

[796] Actually, you know what?

[797] I'll be honest with you.

[798] Please do.

[799] It's been, you know, I think I'm always honest, actually.

[800] But hey.

[801] Well, please don't.

[802] Don't tell me that.

[803] Make it seem like it's a special moment.

[804] No, we've had some, we've had a really great year so far.

[805] As far as, we've had a really great year so far as, as far as shows that have been coming in.

[806] Like, we've had a few private gigs where those are really fruitful, you know, someone's, Like, literally, we actually, this was amazing, we played a gig for a birthday party, but it was a very well set up.

[807] It was a 21st birthday party.

[808] This girl's 21 years old.

[809] But her father's a Microsoft exec.

[810] And they are fans of our band.

[811] And it was such a great opportunity to make new friends, but also, you know, get paid well, which was actually really cool because that's helping us finish this record.

[812] And things like that kind of keep happening.

[813] We're getting these phone calls of, like, someone saying, hey, we have this festival.

[814] It's a small town festival, but we'd love to bring you in.

[815] And, you know, it's all kind of working out, you know, in a way that we're really grateful for because it's sort of like, we've been doing this for eight years, you know.

[816] And it's nice to have those things when they come up and not have to have a side job right now.

[817] Yeah.

[818] Well, you guys are really fucking talented.

[819] And the world is very strange right now when it comes to music.

[820] It is.

[821] Thanks, man. The way to distribute things is gone topsy -turvy.

[822] It's hard, man. Yeah, that stuff, it's, you just have to figure, you have to do it on your own.

[823] The internet.

[824] And, well, the internet, we have, we have, uh, you can do live shows.

[825] There's a thing called stage it, and we've done a few of those, and we're actually going to do one soon.

[826] But, but, you know, touring, you know, touring.

[827] Yeah.

[828] Just you can't sell records anymore.

[829] It's not the same.

[830] You can, but not like, it's not the same.

[831] It's not the same.

[832] No, it's not like, but we actually, like, when we went to Europe, we actually just got off the road this past at the end of last year we opened up for a guy named Jake Bug fuck Jake Bug I'm tired of bullshit it was well we got it you can't bite the hand that man I'm totally kidding I don't even know what Jake Bug is it was amazing I just felt like saying that no he's a he's like a British rock sensation and he took us overseas with him and it was amazing it was really hard like we got our asses handed to us in the UK that was rowdy crowds and we played as a duo in front of like 6 ,000 people instead of like a full, like when we play the full band you get like drums and bass and it's like you know rowdy crowds man England has a lot of crazy rowdy crowds England was rough on us but Europe was amazing they were probably some of the best crowds we've ever had you guys have opened for quite a few famous people who else were you guys opening for?

[833] We had we did Cheryl Crowe yeah that's what I was talking about what was that like?

[834] It was great man what did she like to hang out with She's super sweet.

[835] Yeah, she's just kept everything she did.

[836] She'd have these, like, little speeches during her set talking about how she needed to.

[837] We had a Kickstarter at the time.

[838] She's so sweet.

[839] I don't think she really understood the concept of it.

[840] She gave speeches to get you guys some money at your Kickstarter?

[841] Yeah, but she'd say things like, vote for honey, honey.

[842] That's not, you know, it's not a campaign in the different sense.

[843] Oh, that's so cool, though.

[844] That's so cool.

[845] She was amazing.

[846] She's got a beautiful voice, man. And she's a beautiful woman.

[847] Like, just she's really.

[848] She's like an empire builder too That's what it's so cool to see the people in her position Who figured out okay I've had this I've had a successful music career but I can just branch out now Right This whole universe of Cheryl Crow Right right right Yeah I enjoy her music man One time I was in my car and my friend Eddie Was in the car with me and he asked me if I could Give his girlfriend a ride somewhere So she hopped in the car and Cheryl Crow was playing And it was like Is this a joke?

[849] Like do you play you play this is a joke and I'm like I like Cheryl Crow I was like no you don't like show crow it became like an argument with her or not whether or not I like Cheryl Crow you're being ironic like you're being ironic I go no my favorite mistake is like a great fucking song it's a beautiful song she's like no you're like a monkey like you're like eight when she's like mocking me it was all in just fun it was in good fun she's like shouldn't be listening to like death metal or something or something with a Confederate flag attached to it rage against the machine you see more like a This stuff.

[850] From doing your show, we have all these dudes come out.

[851] I know we've told you this before show.

[852] These dudes come out, tatted up, six foot five.

[853] You know, we're playing a ballad to just be like, honey, who are you?

[854] You know, screaming before the show during the ballads.

[855] It's amazing.

[856] Well, we have the nicest fans ever.

[857] They're the best.

[858] And everyone always asks about you.

[859] They're like, what's he like?

[860] And I'm like, he's fucking awesome.

[861] He gives great hugs.

[862] He's really good at pool.

[863] I'm going to tell him that now.

[864] When we guys, when we guys, is that a word?

[865] but we did that show together the December 21st, 2012 show that was fun as shit.

[866] That was the first and only time I've ever done a show like that where it was Doug Stanhope, Joey Diaz, you guys.

[867] Let's do another one.

[868] Yeah, fuck yeah, I'm in.

[869] Let's do it.

[870] I'm totally down.

[871] We could totally do that again.

[872] That was really fun.

[873] It was really interesting too.

[874] It was in Nashville.

[875] Weird people out.

[876] What's that?

[877] Do it in Nashville?

[878] Yeah.

[879] I have a friend who has a club in Nashville.

[880] I'm in town I do his club.

[881] He supports comedy It's like these small clubs There's a weird thing with me with certain small clubs I kind of have to do them I just have to support them And that's one of them It's like not a lot of comedy out there I feel like he's an island And I know he gets good acts there on a regular basis But I always feel the need Like the ice house is another one Like I would never do a theater in Pasadena It's never going to happen If I'm in Pasadena I do the ice house just because the owner is my friend and he supports comedy loyalty that's fucking awesome well it's that it's also you don't i don't need to do anything else you know what i mean it's not like a desperate moment where if i don't do the theater my kids are going to be hungry you know so dude you were you were on fire that end of the world show was amazing there was something magical happening that night it's pretty fun it was fun and d 'nope what a guy he's awesome and joey and joey dyes is awesome too that show couldn't have been more fun it was beautiful it was a beautiful show the audience was so nice too they were so fun and so they enjoyed it so much it was just so cool you know that's the one most surprising thing about all this is not just the connection to all these people that we've sort of like somehow another fostered but how nice they are like when we do shows like we do show i did a show the other day in chicago and after the show i took pictures with people for two hours we went outside and i said anybody wants to take a picture i said i'll be here until the last one you leave i stood on behind a tape and And I just I said this is what we're going to do I'll do five minutes on this side five minutes in the middle and then five minutes on that side and then we'll keep switching and we just went every five minutes and I set my timer on my phone and at five minutes I'm all right I'm moving I'm moving and I'd go do this side Dude that's incredible like it's just a swarm of people around these tables but they're there's what my point was was for two hours Nobody was a dick not one person everyone was cool as fuck not one person this is actually Dallas I didn't Chicago, too, but this is the most reason it was Dallas.

[882] But it was just no one at all, like nothing, not one person, no one tried to cut in line, no one was a shithead, no one.

[883] I meant a dick to you.

[884] I'm like, why don't think we're addicted to you?

[885] We've seen a little bit of that.

[886] You see people, not even with us necessarily, we tour with other acts, and people at the merch booth get aggressive with whoever's signing, say, hey, this is what I want.

[887] Basically, you owe this to me, that kind of mentality.

[888] It does happen.

[889] I think it all, I mean, I don't know, because I'm trying to figure out how this happened, you know, because it never happened to me before.

[890] Like, before the podcast and before, um, you know, social media, essentially when I was dealing with people, I was dealing people that knew me from something else.

[891] They knew me from Fear Factor or they knew me from the UFC or they knew me from news radio, you know, or they knew me from comedy.

[892] Those were the options.

[893] It wasn't they knew me. Like, these people just all know me. It's weird.

[894] It's totally different.

[895] Yeah.

[896] It's like, they say hi, like they know me. You know, like, dude, what's up?

[897] And I'm like, what's up?

[898] What's going on?

[899] You know, it's very strange.

[900] But they do.

[901] I mean, they get, you get to reveal these really amazing parts of yourself and your mind on your podcast.

[902] And I think that's such a great thing about what you're doing and what, you know, most podcasts, if they're good ones, you know, you have, you create good conversation.

[903] You create real situations of, of conversation.

[904] And people get to witness that.

[905] And that's so cool.

[906] Well, they also get to be a part of it, you know, because they get to see the whole thing.

[907] Like, one of the things I like about this podcast, because we don't, we don't, like, edit it.

[908] It goes out live.

[909] It's all, you know, it is what it is.

[910] And because of that, you kind of get to see who everybody really is.

[911] It was really produced, and there was all these fast edits, and there was all this, you know, really pre -planned segments, and it would feel less like you were really there.

[912] You might enjoy it still, but you wouldn't feel like you'd know the people that well.

[913] Yeah.

[914] And people that are stuck in some shit spot, wherever the fuck you are.

[915] If you're in Bangor, Maine or not to be smirch Bangor, it's a fine community.

[916] But if you're anywhere, if you're in some weird spot and, you know, you don't have a lot of cool people around you, you could listen to Honey Honey Talk.

[917] You can listen to Adam Carolla.

[918] You could, you know, there's a bunch of people that you're going to less get to listen to the way they think.

[919] And I know for a fact that I have, part of who I am has been formed by listen to people far smarter and more experience of myself talk and that their, their thoughts shaped my reality.

[920] And so to be able to introduce other people to the thoughts and ideas that have shaped my reality, my thoughts and ideas that I've gotten from those thoughts and ideas and other people's thoughts and ideas that continue to shape my reality, it's not just me putting on a show.

[921] It's being a part of it and the audience be a part of it too.

[922] Everyone's a part of it.

[923] I'll tell you what.

[924] I think that it's an incredible thing that you're doing that and you're continuing to do that because if the majority of people are watching bullshit reality shows, you know, where they're scripted and staged and they're supposed to be these candid examples of really asinine shit, it really annoys me, you know, like real housewives.

[925] And it's like trying to make something like, oh, you're wearing the same dress as me or whatever the fuck be important.

[926] And I'm going to fight you.

[927] I don't even know.

[928] I don't watch that shit.

[929] Because I think it's bad for you.

[930] I think that it lowers your vibration.

[931] You know what I mean?

[932] And when you're doing what you're doing, which is being, I think you're brilliant.

[933] I'm not trying to be weird.

[934] But you have this incredible mind and you share it with people and lots of different people.

[935] And you have these situations.

[936] It's really great to listen to.

[937] And you're right.

[938] People learn from it.

[939] Well, I'm definitely not brilliant.

[940] But what I am is curious and I have a lot of free time.

[941] Call it what you want.

[942] I keep thinking about shit because I have the ability to do so.

[943] I don't know if people were like born to do anything in life.

[944] I don't know if anybody was born to do anything in life.

[945] But I think for sure, if you follow your passion, you feel like you were born to do this.

[946] For sure, if you actually do what you enjoy out of life.

[947] And there was some really weak -ass article that somebody posted the other day that I'm sick and tired of rich people saying to follow your passion.

[948] It was hilariously stupid.

[949] whatever dumb ass wrote it he actually had to change the title the next day because of a barrage of hate that he got from it when it was about Richard Branson and a bunch of people saying follow your passion and he was saying essentially that most people shouldn't follow their passion and in fact they should keep their passion as a hobby yeah you know why because he's a weak bitch he's a weak bitch and he's worried that he possibly wasted his life writing shitty articles like this and in fact he did and he was also talking about how you know fortune he is personally to do what he does but all these self -deprecating throws to poverty in it and all this nonsense in it essentially what he's doing was who's writing a thing that was downplaying greatness and inspiration and when someone says follow your passion you know if anybody that says don't do that is a fucking idiot because here's the thing if you love making guitars okay and you just love guitars you love making guitars and you say god I would love to make guitars for a living someone fucking does that okay there's a guy out there and he gets up every morning and he makes fucking guitars and if that's what he loves to do that guy loves life we're not talking about breathing underwater fuck face we're not talking about flying to the moon with a fucking rubber band we're talking about making guitars if your passion is making guitars and you read that asshole's article where it says don't follow your passion fuck you stupid fuck you you weak dummy you fucking disease of ideas you're a disease idea that's what you are you're a rotten little weak man with poor hormones and you can't figure out that your passion doesn't necessarily mean rich I'm so tired of rich people saying follow your passion.

[950] Shut the fuck up.

[951] What difference does it make if they're rich?

[952] Everyone should say follow your passion.

[953] That's how buildings got made.

[954] That's why airplanes were invented.

[955] That's why you could watch fucking television because someone follow their passion.

[956] What happens when you read Lord of the Rings?

[957] You're reading someone's passion.

[958] You're wearing clothes.

[959] You're wearing passion.

[960] You're listening to music.

[961] You're listening to to passion.

[962] I'm reading your stupid fucking article.

[963] Your lack of passion is your passion.

[964] Your lack of following your passion is what you're so passionate about portraying.

[965] Shut up, dummy.

[966] I'm going to hold you down and I'll butter your scone, you fuckhead.

[967] Oh, no!

[968] They got you.

[969] Who did it?

[970] Did you do that?

[971] No, who's the name?

[972] What's the name?

[973] Diego Peru 420.

[974] Powerful Diego Peru 420.

[975] and fuck you dummy follow your passion guy again honey honey's following their passion sorry mom and dad I get the feeling I'm really mean that guy I don't really I'm just point out like if that guy listens to this like Joe Rogan hates me he besmirched me I don't really hate that guy at all I just would I would advise against further communications in that sort of thing don't don't be a naysayer you know what I mean let let somebody have their fucking moment let somebody fail if they're going to fail or succeed seed you know like i understand this point i truly understand his point but what you know i mean but his all of his you know was talking one of the things that richard brown said you should have a couch in your kitchen and this guy was like a taking issue with if your kitchen is big enough to have a couch in it like stop stop that doesn't mean you're rich a lot of people can get a fucking couch in a kitchen she shut the fuck up you know like i hate that real obvious pandering like i can't afford to have a couch in my kitchen my kitchen's not big enough like Well, fucking whatever, dude.

[976] You know, you're talking nonsense.

[977] There's got, there's a better message than that.

[978] It's not, it's not, you know, it's not don't follow your passions.

[979] It's not you're better off keeping your passions as your hobby.

[980] That is absolutely ridiculous.

[981] And the only person that would say that.

[982] Any choice in life, that doesn't make any sense.

[983] The only person that would say that is a person who hasn't followed their passions and doesn't make a living off of it.

[984] Because if you can make a living off of it, I do not work.

[985] I don't work.

[986] I don't have any jobs.

[987] Even my jobs are not jobs.

[988] And I'm not the only one.

[989] I know people that make pool cues.

[990] My friend Eric, he makes pool cues.

[991] He makes beautiful pool cues.

[992] He doesn't work.

[993] I mean, he makes pool cues.

[994] He loves it.

[995] He makes him for free and gives them out to people sometimes because he loves doing it.

[996] He loves wood.

[997] He loves creating things and construct.

[998] He started doing it while he was in the military.

[999] He did it as a hobby just for fun because he loves doing it.

[1000] And so when he's making money doing it, he's not really working.

[1001] What he's doing is following his passion.

[1002] And if you could figure out a way to do that for money, God damn it.

[1003] Why would you ever try to encourage someone to not do that?

[1004] That's so crazy.

[1005] Even what we were talking about before, if you just start doing it, eventually the money's going to reveal itself.

[1006] You know, the support.

[1007] Maybe it's not, you know, your whole lifestyle is being provided for, but you can do something with it.

[1008] Yeah, hopefully, unless you like make weird shit, like custom badminton rackets that nobody wants to buy.

[1009] I was going to say, like, toothpick TPs or something.

[1010] Yeah, you're into some.

[1011] That's your passion.

[1012] Some days is going to catch on.

[1013] We sell weird shit.

[1014] People do sell weird shit.

[1015] It's amazing.

[1016] And sometimes weird shit's worth a lot of money.

[1017] Like I saw something.

[1018] It was a Faberjé egg that someone found in like a garage sale or something like that.

[1019] And it was worth like $10 million.

[1020] Do you see that?

[1021] No. Pull that article up.

[1022] Fabergey egg found.

[1023] They were like trying to collect scrap.

[1024] But I looked at it.

[1025] I was like, oh my God, I wouldn't give you a dollar for that.

[1026] If you had that in my house, I'd fucking push it out the door.

[1027] You tried to leave that in the house.

[1028] I would like, no, no, no, you can't leave this here.

[1029] No, it's so funny.

[1030] Recently, I was a, I saw this article on Beanie Babies, and it was like worth like $10 ,000 or, and I was like, holy shit.

[1031] Like my grandmother sent us all these Beanie Babies.

[1032] Oh, wow.

[1033] Look at that.

[1034] Faberjeet egg worth up to $20 million found by scrap metal dealer.

[1035] What are you going to do with it?

[1036] How is that worth $20 million?

[1037] I would put that in my bathroom.

[1038] That is so dumb.

[1039] The idea that that's worth $20 million.

[1040] It's so silly, but you know, you got to let somebody have their passion if they're, you know, you got to let somebody have their passion.

[1041] Faberj egg, egg, that's what I said.

[1042] Yeah.

[1043] Biddy traps.

[1044] I mean, I guess.

[1045] Maybe it's like really beautiful up close.

[1046] So recently I was a, I saw this article on Beanie Babies.

[1047] And there's a collection in my parents' basement given to us by my grandparents when we were kids.

[1048] My grandma would send us like the princess Diana Beanie Baby.

[1049] And we have like, there's like a hundred of them.

[1050] And so I was like, I was like, Mom, Mom, I'm going to go in the basement.

[1051] I think I'm going to make some money.

[1052] I was like, looking up all this.

[1053] shit hoping I could sell something on eBay because they were going for like $15 ,000.

[1054] What?

[1055] People would buy one for it.

[1056] But it had to be like, it was really weird.

[1057] It had to be like there would be like a technical flaw on the tag and somebody out there would pay $15 ,000 for whatever.

[1058] It's so weird.

[1059] Because it was really rare.

[1060] Yeah, I didn't come up with anything good.

[1061] I was really bummed but I was downstairs in the basement for like an hour and a half trying to come up with something.

[1062] So the ones that you found, what do you think they were the ones that we oh nothing maybe like 10 bucks oh yeah 10 bucks of 15 you know what the sentimental value of my grandmother florence santa suzo man is amazing i see i understand yeah she's great it is weird how things become like super worth money you know it very very expensive and they it doesn't make sense like you i saw a watch and it was uh 500 000 dollars and apparently is this amazing hand -built wide but it wasn't like covered in diamonds or anything like that was just this amazing handcrafted watch but it's still just a watch like just because it's handcrafted like if someone gave you a handcrafted spoon would how much more would that be worth in a regular spoon like was the handcrafted spoon made by jimmy hendricks okay that's a good point then fuck yeah i'd be pumped about that spoon i'd pay a few grand for a handcrafted spoon made by jimmy hendricks i would never eat soup without that spoon yeah that would be your spoon that's be and you'd I like that you would use it, though.

[1063] I wear that spoon around my neck.

[1064] Because I don't know, like, guitars, you'll find guitars for 200 grand, $200 ,000, $250 ,000.

[1065] But most of the people that buy them don't play them.

[1066] Yeah.

[1067] Two, what?

[1068] Glass box in it.

[1069] What?

[1070] Well, they're, like, legendary.

[1071] They're, you know, you can't, they're irreplaceable.

[1072] Wow.

[1073] You know, what is it, like a 55 gold top?

[1074] The 59 Les Paul gold top is worth a ridiculous amount of money.

[1075] But, and I don't know.

[1076] I don't know.

[1077] It depends.

[1078] It always flexes, but you could probably sell one for like a hundred.

[1079] grand.

[1080] It's like that with old cars now.

[1081] You know, there's certain, like, old barracudas that are worth over a million dollars.

[1082] And it's just a Plymouth, a shitty old Plymouth.

[1083] And the ones they want are the ones that are completely stock.

[1084] Like, no new wheels, no new tires, no new interior, everything's stock, everything from the factory, little push -button radio.

[1085] And people will pay exorbitant amounts of money.

[1086] Coming back to passion again.

[1087] There's a guitar.

[1088] You just have to find one.

[1089] One person.

[1090] Oh, it's a 58.

[1091] Oh, is that to say 59?

[1092] I think I can't.

[1093] 59, yes, Jesus Christ.

[1094] You just need one person to give enough of a shit to say that that's worth $100 ,000.

[1095] And then it is.

[1096] Losing it, guys.

[1097] That's true.

[1098] It's like as soon as it becomes a demand, right?

[1099] Yeah, this is a weird thing, especially if there's a finite amount.

[1100] Like, there's a finite amount of 1972 Volkswagen.

[1101] Yeah.

[1102] If you find a 1972 Volkswagen bug, there's only a few of those that were ever made.

[1103] You know, how many of them are there left?

[1104] you know if you get a pristine one becomes very valuable what's so interesting about that is that some people actually make a business out of just the the taste making trend setting in general like they might not even be like a car maven but they like they can be uh privy to the oncoming trend of do you know what I mean like yes like all of a sudden everybody wants those 79 or whatever he said Volkswagen yeah and then you could just be like this traitor you know this eBay middleman you don't mean traitor no no traitor traitor traitor Trader.

[1105] Yeah.

[1106] Trader.

[1107] Like, Trader Joe's.

[1108] Yeah, this is a sweet old Volkswagen.

[1109] My buddy Jimmy Lawless used to have one of those when we were 18 piled around in this fucking little tiny Volkswagen.

[1110] Wasn't he named Jimmy Lawless at 18?

[1111] Yeah, his name was a lot of trouble.

[1112] That's pretty hardcore.

[1113] No, Jimmy was a good dude.

[1114] That's a badass name.

[1115] It is.

[1116] I was always jealous.

[1117] We've recently come across some great names.

[1118] I met somebody in England and his last name was Dragon.

[1119] Oh, shit.

[1120] You wake up every morning just feeling like you're fucking awesome.

[1121] We better rock it, too.

[1122] Rocket.

[1123] Yeah, yeah.

[1124] There was a rocket.

[1125] My best friend's named Eddie Bravo.

[1126] That's ridiculous.

[1127] Yeah.

[1128] That guy's pretty cool.

[1129] Eddie Bravo's a ridiculous name.

[1130] People didn't believe it's a real name.

[1131] They're like, come on, son.

[1132] That ain't your name.

[1133] That's his fucking name.

[1134] Yeah, that's, uh, I was stuck with Joe.

[1135] Joe Rogan.

[1136] It's very boring.

[1137] No, it's a great name.

[1138] That's all right now.

[1139] I mean, it's, I made something out of it.

[1140] It's not much.

[1141] It's easy to spell.

[1142] Yeah.

[1143] Swartzenegger's the baddest motherfucker of all time because they came up to him and they told him, you got to change that shit.

[1144] He's like, I don't think so.

[1145] I like it I keep it I shorten my last name What is the original Santa Sousseau Damn that's even better Oh man I think When you go solo It's well you know Sorry You know Sorry a matter of time Dude why are you trying To drive a wedge in the band Who's a bigger How are you supportive than me I love to both you guys together Don't bless you fucking I'm bullshitting I just can't help it I have bad instincts My comedian instincts.

[1146] It always say something fucked up.

[1147] Destroy.

[1148] I fight them all day.

[1149] I fight them all fucking day.

[1150] You know what?

[1151] We're, we, uh, we've weathered the storms over the years.

[1152] It's been rough.

[1153] I'm sure.

[1154] It's been fucking rough.

[1155] Well, you guys get along remarkably well.

[1156] You know, one of the things I really enjoy about hanging out with you guys is how, look, no one gets along 100 % of time.

[1157] It just doesn't work.

[1158] There's no human beings.

[1159] Whether it's mother and son, whether it's father and daughter, whether it's brothers and sisters, whether it's friends and neighbors, no one gets along 100 % of the time.

[1160] It's going to be bumps.

[1161] But you guys are, you have a great energy about you.

[1162] Like, you guys are friends.

[1163] You guys are co -creators.

[1164] Your collaborators.

[1165] And, you know, you have a very unique bond because of that.

[1166] And it's interesting to pal around with you guys, like to go to dinner with you and hang out with you.

[1167] Because your bond is, is it's unique but it's also very pure and I'm that sounds gross to say that hate my own words fight I think pretty early on honestly you figured out how to fight how to fight with each other and not have it not hurt each other destroy it well yeah but um well you don't insult each other that's you know I had a I had a friend uh we were having this conversation a while back he was talking about his wife and he's like you know where everything's fine but man when we fight we both go for jugular right away and I go like what do you mean go for the jugular and he goes well you know we know the one thing that really fucks with each other so we automatically go to that and I go okay who's the first person is doing that you know I don't want to say who you know what I think um in any situation where you're um you're introduced to conflict depending like sometimes you want to fight you know it's like you can you can be quick with your words you know whatever whatever, say mean shit.

[1168] But that's kind of pointless, you know.

[1169] At the end of the day, usually you're fighting, depending on who you're fighting with, but like it's your loved ones, at least in my disposition.

[1170] And I love them.

[1171] I don't want to hurt them.

[1172] So when you approach, you know, a confrontation, in my opinion, this is something, actually I really learned a lot.

[1173] My relationship with Ben in this band has made my other relationships in my life so much better because we had...

[1174] because we have to fight so hard for sometimes not all the time for this this union for our project and what we care about so much and so you have to be a good listener and you have to be humble and you have to like you know put your fucking foot in your mouth sometimes and and when I approach a confrontation with like my sister or my mom and like my family and I we love each other we love each other so much we fight hard you know and it sucks it And it's painful.

[1175] you guys like you fight, like get angry at each other?

[1176] there's a lot of stuff.

[1177] I'm not going to get into it.

[1178] But stuff happens.

[1179] Have a couple more drinks.

[1180] But your deep and deep.

[1181] Easy Rogan.

[1182] You fucking watch yourself.

[1183] But the point is that if you approach any conflict or confrontation, literally, and I'm not trying to be weird, with love.

[1184] And you're like, I love this person.

[1185] Mm -hmm.

[1186] And you listen, I think more often than not, you can really come to a resolve Or just a better understanding of that person You will continue to learn more about people in your life It's not like you have this all -encompassing knowledge of somebody You know And that's the useful side of fighting too Because then we're hammering shit out That makes us not get along Maybe we'll get along more in the future Instead of just Figure out what it's been Maybe there's been something Unless you like to fight Which sucks And I don't You need to get away from those people Yeah I had a girlfriend once that really like to fight And uh well you know It's all right She had great sex though Sorry She was a crazy bitch She liked to fuck But there was one moment where we're heading out to some party, and I guess she was stressed out or something like that.

[1187] So she yelled at me, like out of nowhere.

[1188] And there's the first time she ever yelled at me. And I go, hey, listen, I go, we can't talk like this.

[1189] You can't have this conversation with me like this.

[1190] You're not allowed to yell at me. I go, none of my friends yell at me. No one yells at me. I don't yell at them either.

[1191] I go, if you're my friend, I go, why would you, why would you yell at me?

[1192] You don't yell at me is if you're more concerned with just exploding, throwing up your own energy, than you are with the repercussions that's going to have on the people around you.

[1193] That's an ultimately very selfish thing to do.

[1194] And I go, we can't, we can't ever talk like that.

[1195] And she just like immediately like deflated.

[1196] Like all of her anger like went away.

[1197] It was a very weird moment.

[1198] And we just sat down and we had a conversation.

[1199] But did you say it kind of in that tone?

[1200] Exactly.

[1201] Yeah, the tone is everything.

[1202] That's pretty powerful, man. If you can do that?

[1203] well it was pretty powerful but she couldn't help herself she she would I don't know what it was it was something something in her childhood because we wound up staying friends but we broke up and then she started dating some new guy and um she calls me up and she's like really frustrated she's really frustrated because she can't keep yelling at this she can't keep from yelling at this guy she keeps yelling at him and she doesn't know what to do she's like I yell at him and he takes it and I fucking keep yelling at him and I don't know what to do I just get I I can't he he he lets me bully him so I start fucking bullying them, and she goes, and I don't, I can't even stop myself.

[1204] You know, if you grow up with that, with yelling, and it's really funny, like, this is, my mom is awesome, but, like, I grew up with a lot of yelling.

[1205] My mom yelled a lot, and I was bad, so, but this is kind of hysterical.

[1206] We had a family bird.

[1207] It was a boy, but his name was Abby, and he was an African gray, and they're really smart.

[1208] Like, they're really fucking smart animals, and they repeat a lot of things, and literally the, my sister's, I grew up with Carla and Jody.

[1209] Like the bird would go, Carla, Jody.

[1210] And then it would go, Suzanne!

[1211] Gip!

[1212] Gip!

[1213] And you'd have this, like, total, like, this, like, slur of, like, screaming words that you couldn't understand, but it was pretty accurate.

[1214] Because I got yelled at a lot, and my mom would yell at me. And so, it was always this reminder.

[1215] Like, when I would walk in the room, that sometimes the bird would be like, Suzanne, you fucking dumb, dumb, cunt, mother!

[1216] God, my mom never called me a cunt.

[1217] That would be horrible.

[1218] That would be a really bad thing.

[1219] though.

[1220] Whatever, the fucking noise she made, it's the same thing as calling you a cunch.

[1221] But it's funny, like, we love each other so much, but we fought a lot.

[1222] Oh, that's rough.

[1223] But yeah, yelling is a difficult thing to, as an adult now, it's like, it's really funny.

[1224] Ben and, you know, we have to.

[1225] I went the other way.

[1226] My mom, she would just freeze me out.

[1227] So I just go into, like, deep silence.

[1228] Oh, that's worse.

[1229] Yeah.

[1230] Sometimes it's better if someone has enough caring for you that they yell at you and fight with you.

[1231] Like, it out everybody gets tired at the end of working it out you know but this girl um you know she wasn't a bad person and growing up later and becoming a dad i kind of really feel for her because i think that what happened with this this girl was just she was just programmed in a really shitty way by dummies and she grew up in florida and there's a bunch of dummies around her and she's serial capital of the united states serial killer the capital yeah not cereal There's a lot of cocoa puffs there.

[1232] Gosh, those gongrams are just chilling.

[1233] You know, I think that's a lot of who we are.

[1234] It's like how we were programmed when we were young.

[1235] And this girl, she wasn't a bad person.

[1236] She was just battling with her programming as she was trying to be an actress, which fucking good luck with all that.

[1237] It's really funny.

[1238] Sorry, Ben, go ahead.

[1239] I was just going to say, isn't that what the neuroplasticity concept is, so you can change that stuff?

[1240] You can, but, you know, neuroplasticity, is all nice and good, but if you're, if you're that fucked up, I recommend MDMA.

[1241] I don't think that neuroplasticity is really going to fucking get you to the dance.

[1242] But what does that do?

[1243] Just kind of blast it all.

[1244] Makes you feel, makes you understand love in a weird, pure form, you know.

[1245] I mean, and people could say it's a drug, but that drug, by the way, exists in everyone's brain right now as we speak.

[1246] What you're dealing with with dopamine and, you know, and MDMA is elevated dopamine levels, elevated feelings of love and passion and connection to each other.

[1247] It's just, you know, somebody sent me this video.

[1248] It's really kind of interesting.

[1249] You'd probably find it, Brian.

[1250] It's Joe Rogan talks indirectly about rave culture.

[1251] And it was me talking about setting up some sort of psychedelic community and that it would be incredibly beneficial to people to set up communities where we could figure out how to meet and everybody take something that would tune us all into this sort of frequency of love.

[1252] And so someone took me talking about.

[1253] that and connected it to raves where if you look up at that screen like anytime you're seeing a rave like this 99 .9 % of those people are on ecstasy.

[1254] You're looking at 15 ,000 people that are in this huge football arena and they're dancing around and touching each other and having a great fucking time.

[1255] Why are they having such a great time?

[1256] How come they can get together and smush up like that and no one's a dick?

[1257] I'll tell you why because they're all on ecstasy.

[1258] And when I say 99 .99 .999.

[1259] There's that point whatever.

[1260] Those people are assholes.

[1261] But not necessarily.

[1262] Can I be honest with you?

[1263] I think that also I read this book on collective joy and it's really interesting because back to our primitive tribal selves like when there would be like rain dances and the tribes would dance and they would all move together.

[1264] You know there would be this collective sort of consciousness that people would have coalescing between them.

[1265] And, like, I recently have reconnected with dancing.

[1266] Like, I went to, I went to a party and there was a DJ.

[1267] And, you know, I had, like, a couple drinks, whatever, but, like, I wasn't on drugs at the time.

[1268] And, you know, rarely, but let's get into that later.

[1269] But the dancing, the movement with the sound is a powerful thing.

[1270] Drugs are no drugs.

[1271] And I think there's something really interesting about it as far as a collective, you know, group of people.

[1272] Well, that's...

[1273] In harmony, you know?

[1274] As a comedian, that's what I essentially do for a living.

[1275] As a comedian, what you're doing is connecting all these minds together in some sort of a harmonious tribal function.

[1276] That's why the smaller the tribe, usually generally the better it works.

[1277] You know, but one of the weird things about this connection with the Internet is that people are getting used to larger and larger numbers.

[1278] We've had shows with 3 ,000 plus people, and it feels.

[1279] like it's intimate you know it feels intimate like everyone's tuned in three thousand people and they're all tuned in and may i mean directly tuned in responsible like they feel like they're a part of what's going on but when when you really feel it more is when you could see everybody it's like 300 people it's like i think the number like when you get above 300 people things get squirrelly like you can handle it if the people are the right people but most most the time you're better off with 300 people but what you're essentially doing is you're conducting like a tribal sort of a bonding moment like everybody's experiencing the same vibe everybody's like we had that moment in st paul yeah we're playing we had a show last week in st paul and every once in a while we just get to play to a group of about 300 people who is you know being seated with our music helps because when we're a duo it's not really rhythmically heavy so you have a seated group of people and they're just so willing and kind of vulnerable to us taken charge and there's this energy that goes way beyond what we can do and all of a sudden you know it's a it's a it's a show between us and them and they're they're putting in more than we are you know and and those experiences they i don't know they haven't happened as as as often as we'd like but they seem to be happening more and it's an amazing feeling it's like it's kind of a weightlessness when you're performing you don't have to think about it anymore well we all need the audience you know the audience is for you and for comedians i think We need it in a different way, but it's similarly important.

[1280] You know, an audience is there to, like, let you know that they're tuning in to all this work that you've done.

[1281] They get all the things that you've said.

[1282] They understand all the stuff that you've, you know, labored on and formed into these rhythmic sort of these pieces, you know, which is what the song really is.

[1283] and for comedians it's not just like we it's fucking a hundred percent mandatory like you can't even write it without them like the writing changes when you're around them when they become a part of it and their laughter each crowd you perform in front of help shape the material it changes the material from week to week you know it's without without those other people without the involvement of the other people it really doesn't even exist it's weird well i i never think about this show, but I was just thinking about American Idol when we're talking about this.

[1284] You think about it every day, you fucking liar.

[1285] He's like, when is it going to be my time?

[1286] I never think about this show.

[1287] Never.

[1288] I'm over the hill, man. No, but I think that, it's like a competition culture, and I think that fucks it up.

[1289] Yeah.

[1290] That fucks it up a lot.

[1291] It helps the people that make it, but it doesn't because then the fucking just money just lines up.

[1292] What's that dude's name?

[1293] Spockets?

[1294] What's his name?

[1295] Simon?

[1296] I don't think he doesn't anymore, does he?

[1297] But he's in a giant mansion, on the top of the hills.

[1298] I feel like we have talked about this before on the podcast, but it's important to bring up again.

[1299] And I think things like the American Idol, microwave mentality is really toxic to people to have like this, you know, Instagram, you know, all of this stuff happening, you know, you won this thing.

[1300] It's like you won the lottery.

[1301] The lottery is, you know, more often than not, a really terrible thing for people.

[1302] And, you know, it's...

[1303] Stupid people text.

[1304] It's tough, you know, being a musician and then seeing that.

[1305] You know, we've had several...

[1306] It's really funny.

[1307] We've had several invitations to be on these, like, competitive shows.

[1308] Like, and people are like, we really want you to be a part of it.

[1309] And it always just feels so wrong to me. It always feels like, you know, you lose a lot to begin with.

[1310] Like, the people that are involved want to take all of your, you know, publishing and stuff like that, own you in a way.

[1311] And that does kind of come back to what you were talking about before.

[1312] It's like, we want you to sound like this and do this and sing this.

[1313] And fuck that, you know.

[1314] But at the same time, not to talk about us, but just the mentality of the princess, like the fairy tale, is rough on people.

[1315] You know, I don't like it.

[1316] Sorry.

[1317] I agree with you 1 ,000 percent, but that's not a real number.

[1318] I really do.

[1319] I think that I entered a contest once in Boston.

[1320] the WBCN comedy riot It was the only contest I ever entered I lost in the finals Oh I was like Did you fucking slay it?

[1321] Damn it No A nice guy won Can't begrudge the gentleman Who won He was a very nice guy But it was just like It's just the idea of it It was so silly It's like How can you I mean I guess you can judge Based on what's best for you Like what do you find the best But you can't have a music contest Where you have a music contest rap band and a country band and a rock band and a folk band you can't because there's no best there's the best for you all right if it's me it's very likely a rap band is never going to win there's a few rappers unless it's like gnaz or something like that there's a few rappers who really love killer mike who really connect with me you know where i really feel like i appreciate what they're doing as an art form too much of it's just braggadocious nonsense you know well Hip -Hop's tough, too, because it's just hard to hear what they're saying.

[1322] Yeah, yeah, what, yeah, what, yeah, what, yeah, what, yeah, what, yeah, what, what, man, what?

[1323] But it could be, like, some D. Antwerd songs, well, you know, are fucking perfect.

[1324] Yeah, exactly.

[1325] I love that.

[1326] I love that crazy bitch.

[1327] I love that crazy bitch.

[1328] Oh, I think you're freaky.

[1329] We need to see some of these interviews with her, because apparently she just reams out everyone in interviews.

[1330] Yeah, that bitch is crazy.

[1331] We need to do that, Ben.

[1332] We need to put on this whole, you know, tough exterior.

[1333] I'll tie that bitch up.

[1334] David chose friends with her.

[1335] Good, perfect.

[1336] Let's do it.

[1337] Just make it happen.

[1338] Those guys sign a shirt from me. I got a shirt, a t -shirt from them.

[1339] That's pretty dope.

[1340] They're badass.

[1341] I love Deaette.

[1342] We saw them at Coachella, or I saw them at Coachella before we played Nix.

[1343] Yeah.

[1344] They're gangster.

[1345] They're pretty badass.

[1346] But, I mean, unless it's something like really unique like that, it's hard for me to get into too much rap because it's just not my tune.

[1347] You know, whatever it is, it's not my frequency.

[1348] I'm, like, a big fan of the Black Keys.

[1349] I'm a big fan of a band.

[1350] I don't know if you guys heard of them.

[1351] They're called Honey Honey, honey.

[1352] What?

[1353] And they're probably one of my favorites.

[1354] No, it's not lame.

[1355] It's not lame, but if a lot of your friends are around and they're, like, football players or something like that, like, don't play it in front of them.

[1356] Oh, I'm coming tours.

[1357] They wind up, fuck you.

[1358] Where are you guys?

[1359] We're doing a little run in April.

[1360] I would like to offer you something right now.

[1361] You cannot say no. I would like to tweet all of your dates.

[1362] Let me know any times you're anywhere.

[1363] Oh, man, thank you.

[1364] I'd be more than happy.

[1365] I do it with everybody.

[1366] I do it with everybody and no one gets annoyed.

[1367] Everybody is happy about it because they find out, you know, with Ari's here.

[1368] We get weird about it.

[1369] Yeah, we feel weird asking for shit.

[1370] I don't get annoyed.

[1371] We just want to play pool and drink beers.

[1372] I barely drink.

[1373] I appreciate that you guys feel weird, but it's no work at all for me. and I would probably feel weird if I was asking you.

[1374] So don't feel weird.

[1375] We'll tweet for you any time.

[1376] How about we make a deal?

[1377] You fucking tweet for me too.

[1378] All right?

[1379] Done.

[1380] You tweet for me?

[1381] I'll tweet for you.

[1382] Let's make it happen.

[1383] We made an agreement.

[1384] So all of your dates.

[1385] Anytime you're anywhere, every time you're anywhere, unless I'm hunting in Alaska, which I will be doing soon.

[1386] I'm going to the Brooks range to fuck up a moose's day.

[1387] Oh my God.

[1388] That deer is delicious.

[1389] Do you know how to butcher it?

[1390] What happens?

[1391] I know the whole deal.

[1392] What are you going to wear?

[1393] What do you do?

[1394] That's all I'm doing, man. All I'm doing these days is fucking every day I do podcasts.

[1395] Then I get home from podcasts, I shoot bows and arrows.

[1396] Oh my God.

[1397] I shot 150 arrows yesterday with a 90 -pound bow.

[1398] I'm not fucking around.

[1399] I want to go.

[1400] Fuck yeah, bitch.

[1401] Listen, both of you guys can come.

[1402] You got to sing songs, though, and scare away the bears.

[1403] I'll do it.

[1404] They hate our shit.

[1405] Well, Steve Rinella, who's the host of this show that I do called The Meat Eater.

[1406] I've done his show twice, and I'm committing.

[1407] to doing it like four times a year we go out and hunt.

[1408] It's amazing show.

[1409] The guy's a brilliant author, and he's incredibly well -read.

[1410] Just a brilliant guy who also happens to be a really badass hunter who is really into what they call fair chase hunting.

[1411] And the fair chase hunting is he won't hunt in a caged environment.

[1412] He's not going to hunt.

[1413] Even if it's 10 ,000 acres, if there's a fence up, he's not hunting there.

[1414] You know, he will hunt wild land, you know, mostly public land.

[1415] But it has to be a wild land.

[1416] animal you know and um one of the things that uh we're trying to figure out is something we could do together my thought of what we can do together is take people who've never hunted before hunting like honey honey dude i'm so down are you down are you down would you like to hunt something ugly and like uh that people aren't really into like pigs first like it's a good one wow we heard that there's some crazy we have friends who live up in in uh i got a place and these dudes there's like a culture of dudes up there who go out knife hunting boars i'm not going to force you guys to do that.

[1417] I'm not interested in that either.

[1418] I'm not interested in Okay, that's fine.

[1419] But there's a place called Tohoun Ranch, and we have a relationship with them, and they're only an hour and a half north of here.

[1420] It's the biggest ranch in California, 270 ,000 acres.

[1421] And they have 50 ,000 pigs.

[1422] It's insane.

[1423] They're infested with pigs.

[1424] So wait, what is our weapon of choice?

[1425] Are we bow and arrow?

[1426] No, no, no, no. It takes a long time to get good with a bow and arrow, like hundreds and hundreds of I have a bow and arrow hunt scheduled for June.

[1427] One of the reasons...

[1428] Dude, if you killed a fucking wild pig with a shooting star, you'd be my new hero.

[1429] I wouldn't suck your dick, but I'd let you lay it on my forehead and take a picture.

[1430] That's fine.

[1431] I'd probably get me there, to be honest.

[1432] You must train.

[1433] But it's really hard to fucking...

[1434] It's really hard to shoot a pig with a bow and arrow.

[1435] I'm sure.

[1436] With a throwing knife, it's virtually impossible.

[1437] With a star...

[1438] God damn it.

[1439] You're talking fantasy.

[1440] But with a rifle, we can get the job done.

[1441] With a rifle, it's not hard at all.

[1442] We've shot some rifles.

[1443] You need a really good hunting rifle and a good guide, but this place to hone ranch is, like I said, an hour and a half north of L .A., and it's enormous.

[1444] And it's all wild.

[1445] There's no fences.

[1446] It's just a huge piece of property that these animals congregate on.

[1447] No, during the day.

[1448] It's illegal to hunt at night.

[1449] Oh, is it?

[1450] Yeah.

[1451] And hard to see also.

[1452] I just thought I'd create another challenge.

[1453] In Texas.

[1454] Night vision.

[1455] Did you go night vision on that shit?

[1456] In Texas, they do.

[1457] That's crazy.

[1458] I've never actually hunted.

[1459] I've been thinking about it, though, honestly, because I started eating meat again, and I just realized, like, if I'm willing to take this shit shrink wrapped from a freezer in a store, I need to be okay with killing this.

[1460] Well, why we speak, I have a ham that's brining that I shot a couple of months ago.

[1461] Did you really?

[1462] I shot a pig.

[1463] Oh, that's amazing.

[1464] At Tihon Ranch.

[1465] Wow.

[1466] I shot that deer, too, that head right in front of you.

[1467] This is a little.

[1468] It's beautiful.

[1469] I would put that on my wall.

[1470] It was slightly more beautiful.

[1471] when it was wander around, but way more delicious after it's boned out.

[1472] What did you bleach it and do all that?

[1473] No, I brought it to a guy who does that professionally and they take the brains out and bleach it down.

[1474] You don't want to keep some stinky brains.

[1475] Yeah, that's pretty gross.

[1476] You know how they do it?

[1477] They use a type of bug that they use to clean off cadaver bones.

[1478] It's called a super worm.

[1479] I know about this because we actually fed it to people on Fear Factor.

[1480] I did know that.

[1481] Oh man, that's fucked up.

[1482] It's pretty dope.

[1483] It takes a while, too.

[1484] They leave the skull with these superworms for quite a while and they just go to work and they chew off every single ounce of flesh.

[1485] You take the skull, you put it into...

[1486] How long does that take?

[1487] I don't know.

[1488] I think it takes a few weeks.

[1489] The worms eat.

[1490] No, but I mean so then they have this...

[1491] They move on to the next skull.

[1492] Then the next guy's got a fucking loose head.

[1493] So they have their superworm 18?

[1494] That just goes from cadaver to cadaver.

[1495] Well, there's this thing that they do where you can get a head mounted.

[1496] after you shoot a deer like a trophy you can get it mounted and they take it and they put like glass eyes in it and they leave the skin on and they do a taxidermy thing which is a little odd you know so where were you when you shot this guy this guy which one the pig oh the predator that's a friend of mine's buddy i got him tickets for the ufc i wish i could remember his name off the top of my head i want to say steve he's a special effect guy and the guy Pat McGee did the American Werewolf who's uh that's out in the uh really frightens me in the front area yeah you're gonna be going up against those in Alaska no you know what this this uh show meat eater they know exactly what they're doing they know where to go you're always gonna deal with bears but you just have to make sure that you scare them off and keep an eye on them and there's a lot of guys with guns and you don't want to hurt the bears but you don't want the bear's stealing your care You're going to be real careful.

[1497] Well, you know, it's not even fucking, what is that, 20 worst pieces of terrible taxidermy?

[1498] Yeah, there's like cross -sighted and pop -cats.

[1499] Look at that puma.

[1500] That puma came near me. Hello, hey, hey, man, you know where the bus stop is?

[1501] What the hell?

[1502] Oh, man. Yeah, that is weird.

[1503] Look at a cat.

[1504] That is weird.

[1505] Some people mix them together, too.

[1506] Suzanne, when you get back, we're going to sing some songs.

[1507] Oh, yeah.

[1508] Yeah, sure.

[1509] Look at that.

[1510] That's a guy who shot the front legs out with a fucking missile.

[1511] That is weird.

[1512] Hey, guys.

[1513] I'm, you know, I mean, it's a weird thing.

[1514] I would never shoot an animal just to make a trophy out of it.

[1515] Never, in a million years.

[1516] But if I found an animal in my, like, backyard and it was dangerous, and I shot it, and they said, do you want to make a trophy out of it?

[1517] I'd be like, fuck yeah.

[1518] It's all about context.

[1519] That's if that wolf That wolf is ridiculous My guys Here for the party Do you know that there's a concern right now That wolves might eventually start to Reemerge in Paris?

[1520] I've not heard that They're starting to make their way Closer and closer towards Paris And they're really worried right now That there might be a moment In the somewhat near future When wolves once again are in Paris How are they gonna last?

[1521] Well that's a crazy thing then They kill people Wolves killed like 40 people in Paris in the 1400s There's a yeah It's like a famous incident I'll pull it up right now The Wolves of Paris There's a few books about it also Yeah it's fucking scary a shit I mean is that where American World War from Paris Comes from?

[1522] No That's because the American World War from London needed a sequel Look at this cover Hi God That's a beautiful little cutie pie And I love wolves People are like Oh you fucking you want to kill all the wolves I don't.

[1523] I love wolves.

[1524] Don't get me wrong.

[1525] I love wolves out there being all wolfy.

[1526] My problem is when wolves come anywhere near people I care about.

[1527] I want them dead!

[1528] I want that family dead!

[1529] Who's the shirtless dude?

[1530] Wolves in Paris.

[1531] The other guy's got a little tiny little coyote dick.

[1532] He's trying to pass off as a wolf.

[1533] Wolves of Paris.

[1534] Is that his band or his book?

[1535] I think it's a cable.

[1536] It's a book.

[1537] It's a book.

[1538] It's a book.

[1539] It's a sequel to 50 shades of purple that comes out after 50 shades of gray.

[1540] They run out of shit to talk about with colors, so they go with animals.

[1541] Wolves of Paris.

[1542] When I was in Paris, I had a, he had a wolf amlet on.

[1543] He ball gagged me. Tag team, he tagged me. Yeah, so you missed a lot.

[1544] In Paris, in 1450, 40 human beings were killed by wolves.

[1545] Jesus!

[1546] Yeah.

[1547] Well, we were talking about wolves?

[1548] No, regular wolves.

[1549] There's an issue right now where wolves are getting closer and closer to Paris and they're worried about wolves re -emerging in Paris because they have very strict environmental.

[1550] Yes.

[1551] They have, yeah, they have very strict environmental rules as far as animals you're allowed to kill and not kill and wolves.

[1552] What kind of wolves?

[1553] Like the regular kind?

[1554] Like timber wolves or?

[1555] Well, there's really only one kind of wolf.

[1556] I got to explain that by this guy Steve Ronella I do this hunting show with like pigs there's only one kind of pig like when you talk about wild pigs there is literally only one type of pig wild or domestic is the same thing it's called Sue Scroffa that's the type of animal I didn't know that but wolves same thing there's just wolves gray wolf timber wolf it's essentially like the difference between you know human beings there's human beings that live in Jamaica there's human beings that live in Tennessee.

[1557] Different colors, what have you?

[1558] But they're just human beings.

[1559] Bus sizes.

[1560] Exactly.

[1561] They have bigger decks.

[1562] But wolves, that was one of the issues with wolves that were brought in from Canada.

[1563] Because they brought in wolves to Canada and they repopulated Yellowstone.

[1564] Yeah, really?

[1565] Yeah, and a lot of other places.

[1566] Do we play that, Jamie?

[1567] We did play that.

[1568] Wolves change rivers.

[1569] Do we play that?

[1570] Yeah, we did.

[1571] There's a great documentary for those who have not seen it.

[1572] It's called Wolves Change the Course of Rivers in Yellowstone, and it's amazing.

[1573] And it's fascinating how just the reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone National Park has actually changed the way the rivers flow.

[1574] It's fucking incredible shit.

[1575] I'm not anti -whol.

[1576] I'm not anti -any -thing.

[1577] I am not anti -I talk shit, okay?

[1578] I don't mean what I say.

[1579] People need to understand that.

[1580] I'm really happy to know that the wolves are repopulating.

[1581] I'm not.

[1582] I hope they die in a fire.

[1583] Wolves are one of my spirit animal.

[1584] Why not?

[1585] Conti little shitty dogs that want to eat babies.

[1586] You say that unless you were alone with a wolf.

[1587] I am a lone wolf.

[1588] Don't you know?

[1589] You're like Chuck Norris and lone wolf bequade.

[1590] No, I have an affinity for like birds of prey and wolves and things like that.

[1591] Have you ever met an eagle in the wild?

[1592] No, but I fucking, like, I would freak out.

[1593] I love them so much.

[1594] What's so funny?

[1595] Have you ever met an eagle in the wild?

[1596] I can't wait till the day.

[1597] I know what's going to happen one day.

[1598] Are you going to dance with a devil on the pale moon light?

[1599] I have.

[1600] I sure have.

[1601] I will say no more.

[1602] An eagle in the wild is very different than an eagle that's in a zoo.

[1603] That's what I'm saying.

[1604] I've never seen any in the wild.

[1605] I've seen many like, you know, flying around.

[1606] Growing up.

[1607] Mocking my word.

[1608] I have a lot of family in Minnesota and we would go.

[1609] They don't have eagles in Minnesota.

[1610] Are you kidding me?

[1611] They call themselves Eagles.

[1612] Come on, Rogan.

[1613] They're like gang members in fucking Irvine.

[1614] That's like the Eagle Capital.

[1615] I don't think it's the Eagle Capital.

[1616] I was in Alaska with R .E. Shafir.

[1617] We went, uh, we went salmon fishing.

[1618] We saw a bunch of eagles.

[1619] It was fucking freaky.

[1620] Yeah.

[1621] Did you call any to your arm, your outstretched arm?

[1622] Oh, there's none of that going on, dude.

[1623] They'll eat your face.

[1624] They, the only thing they're looking at you is like, can I carry this guy away?

[1625] Hmm, too big.

[1626] If you were a baby, they would fucking eat your asshole.

[1627] Eagles are essentially dinosaurs that made it That's all they are What do you think about the Octolus Rift app Purchased by Facebook?

[1628] Isn't that great?

[1629] Amazing.

[1630] I'm very fucking excited about that actually I'm just excited if there's more financial resources Behind the process of Oculus Rift Or the rather not the process The technology Yeah I just hope Facebook seems cool It's like you know one of the things we were talking about recently was about that I find very encouraging about this new tech money is that these guys, whether it's the Google people or the Facebook people, they seem ethical.

[1631] You know, they seem, they're making a shitload of money, but their intentions seem fairly pure.

[1632] Yeah, and it's gotten more serious just from this purchase, where before it was still kind of like a, you know, not many people knew about it.

[1633] Like the mom or the, yeah.

[1634] Now it's, you know, everyone's going to know it.

[1635] about this in a couple years, so I think it's good.

[1636] I couldn't agree more.

[1637] I couldn't agree more.

[1638] I love that fucking Zuckerberg fucking weirdo.

[1639] Yeah, I think he's beautiful.

[1640] I'll give him a kiss right in the mouth if he's in the room.

[1641] You have a Facebook page, Joe?

[1642] I do.

[1643] I have a fan page.

[1644] I can't respond to emails, so please don't.

[1645] I can't get, I just can't get into the habit.

[1646] Not to you.

[1647] I'm not saying that to you.

[1648] I'm saying to other people.

[1649] Please don't, Ben.

[1650] I'm tired of you fucking email on me, dude.

[1651] Joe, what are you doing now?

[1652] Shut up.

[1653] What are you hunting now?

[1654] There's no way.

[1655] It's impossible.

[1656] Let me show you my knife.

[1657] Uh, is that a euphemism?

[1658] Do I have to.

[1659] Let me show you my blade.

[1660] Show you my pocket knife.

[1661] Why, it's shaped like an elephant's trunk.

[1662] It's dull, but it's...

[1663] It'll cut your soul.

[1664] Effective.

[1665] Vaguely effective.

[1666] What are you guys going to play?

[1667] Oh, sorry.

[1668] We can play a song called Big Man. My good friend's the only band I've ever worked with ever in real life.

[1669] What are you going to play?

[1670] Big Man?

[1671] That's the song we're going to play Oh yeah, real life When you can play with us Joe, when you play some drums I feel like you could get some drums I want to just watch Do too many things Playing any drums Supergroup I bet you play mean skin flute Burriss Eem Come on The penis Obvious here Is this okay guys Hit it, let it go Where are these Hey hey hey hey How's that work Oh, but...

[1672] That's a beautiful song.

[1673] Shit.

[1674] Is that one of the ones going to be in the new special?

[1675] Yeah, that's what we're shooting for.

[1676] Do you guys have a name?

[1677] For the record?

[1678] No. No?

[1679] Not yet, but we're open to my ideas.

[1680] But, you know, can I be honest?

[1681] We're really...

[1682] We're working with a new dude this weekend.

[1683] That's why we're here.

[1684] A new producer?

[1685] Yeah, and we're really, really honored and excited that he really wants to work with us.

[1686] And it's kind of sort of like a trial run.

[1687] So fingers crossed, he's our guy.

[1688] Awesome.

[1689] Yeah.

[1690] But it's fucking hard.

[1691] Listen, I know it is.

[1692] You know, it's easy for me to say, I know it's hard.

[1693] You know, but I've watched you guys.

[1694] You know, I at least know from observing your struggle.

[1695] And I have friends and are musicians and have friends, you know, like Everlast, who's made it.

[1696] And friends who are still struggling.

[1697] And I know it's a crazy business.

[1698] It ain't easy.

[1699] You know, but you guys are talented as fuck.

[1700] And I'll buy your shit all day.

[1701] You know, I'm honored to be friends with you guys, but if I wasn't friends with you guys, I would buy the fucking shit out of your music.

[1702] I love it.

[1703] I became a fan when I saw that Angel of Death acoustic version that you guys did on a roof somewhere.

[1704] Here in L .A. back in the Dizzy.

[1705] It's so cool that you can find someone like that.

[1706] I can see you guys on this video.

[1707] And then we can connect.

[1708] Yeah, and then all of a sudden we're hands.

[1709] hanging we're friends it's awesome we live in awesome times man it's just beautiful it's beautiful and there was no middleman we all made that happen together you know just great it's fucking incredible that's what's been happening more and more too is being able to just talk to the people who are supporting us why don't we do a honey honey podcast why don't you guys start doing a podcast fuck yeah talking to the mic yeah especially when you guys are on the road you could just yeah put two mics and you know doing in a hotel room or like suzanne i saw that little thing you did we're interviewing the cat shut the fuck i saw that i saw that Bruce way yeah i saw you interview in the cat that's my little that was before we ever met some ridiculous shit we used to do some fun stuff we should fucking do that again before we ever met i saw that and i was like these are like some really genuine people i'm like you guys are cool because i think there's a weird thing that everyone does, including me who's met, I've met a lot of people that are on television or a lot of people that are, you know, artists or, you know, musicians or actors or comedians or whatever.

[1710] It met a lot of people with varied responses.

[1711] It's like sometimes you meet them and they're like, you're like, you're bummed out that you met them.

[1712] And then sometimes you meet them and you're like, wow, you know, I feel that way too.

[1713] Pretty fucking badass.

[1714] I get kind of squeamish when there's somebody I really, really like and I know I'm going to meet them.

[1715] Like with Cheryl, I was like, oh, God, like.

[1716] Please be nice.

[1717] Which turned out to be fucking awesome, you know.

[1718] And sometimes you just have.

[1719] have to like yeah you have to sort of just accept like sometimes the musicians or actors or whatever you love their work and then they turn out to be a douche you could still love their work it's just you know you have to separate it you know yeah and it's not saying that they have to be that way either it's just it's also saying that if you meet a guy and they're just extra or a girl and they're just extraordinarily talented but incredibly troubled you got to realize that there's like a balance going on with human beings.

[1720] There's this weird balance and it's how it doesn't always work out right.

[1721] You know what's interesting though?

[1722] I think it's shifting a lot more.

[1723] You know, you get people like Jimmy Fallon who are these like, I love Jimmy Fallon.

[1724] He's a sweetie.

[1725] He's creating this realm of like joy, comedy, like brilliant shit.

[1726] Yeah.

[1727] And like he's got this like great childhood, like this great family he loves.

[1728] Well, he seems like a sweet guy too.

[1729] And I think there's room for that.

[1730] You don't have to be fucked up to be an artist anymore, you know?

[1731] And you never really did.

[1732] Are you calling Jimmy Fallon an artist?

[1733] You got to slow the fucking horse down.

[1734] I'm just kidding.

[1735] That guy is a shit.

[1736] Of course he's an artist.

[1737] Nobody does a better Neil Young impression than Jimmy Fallon.

[1738] Well, I also think that he's probably, I mean, he's probably one of the best talk show hosts ever.

[1739] He really cares.

[1740] You can just tell.

[1741] He is a genuine guy.

[1742] Like, there's this coming off of him.

[1743] Like, he seems like a genuinely nice guy.

[1744] And so is Jimmy Kimmel, by the way.

[1745] Jimmy Kimmel is a genuinely nice guy.

[1746] He's a sweetheart.

[1747] Like, you know, heard someone who said something about Jimmy Kimmel was, he was a dick to Rob Ford.

[1748] You know, like, okay, come on, man. The guy's fucking, the Toronto mayor, and he smokes crack.

[1749] Like, you kind of, if you only have seven minutes with that guy, I'm sorry, but we got to get down the business.

[1750] I can't allow you to fucking talk about your favorite football team for six minutes.

[1751] And then, hey, what about that crack thing?

[1752] You know, we got to get busy right away.

[1753] And if it looks like I'm being a dick, I'm so sorry, but you smoke crap.

[1754] You're the fucking mayor of Toronto, son.

[1755] Come on, you've got to give up a certain amount of decorum when you're addressing such issues.

[1756] Jimmy Kimmel where he interviewed Jay Leno after the night show swap -rod.

[1757] I thought that was incredible.

[1758] Well, you know what, man?

[1759] Jimmy Kimmel let Jay Leno know what the fuck is up.

[1760] That's what he did.

[1761] Yeah, you better to hand it to somebody who's going to have the balls to go to real town, you know?

[1762] My only problem with that is that Jay Leno was also being sort of, in a sense, enabled or thrust into that situation by the network because the network, why would the network change everything around if they didn't want to?

[1763] I mean, like, why are you getting upset?

[1764] Like, if Conan O 'Brien went into that position and then all of a sudden the fucking show exploded and became this monster mega hit that everybody thought it would be, then there would be no discussion with Jay Leonard to go back and take over the Tonight Show.

[1765] So then there would be no discussion about falling back on his word or like, you know, what did you say?

[1766] It was all weird.

[1767] It was, you know, in a little bit of a way.

[1768] It's weird.

[1769] That's, it's, it's, it's, when you, you're dealing with those fucking weird sort of talk show host situations, you know, you're dealing with those weird, like, the battle between, you know, this guy and that guy and they're going to, who's the best and like that, the talk show war, the talk show war show with Letterman and Jay Leno where it shows how Letterman and Jay Leno were like battling with each other and Letterman always wanted to do tonight.

[1770] Late night, I think it was called late night.

[1771] And Jay Leno hid in the closet and heard these NBC executives plotting against him while he was in the closet.

[1772] Are you serious?

[1773] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1774] So, like, he knew, like, what to say to them.

[1775] He knew how to fuck with them, like, to let them know.

[1776] So they did, like, a bug sweep of the room to try to find the bug.

[1777] He was hiding in the closet.

[1778] Hilarious, really.

[1779] But it doesn't seem like that's the right way to do it, you know?

[1780] And I like that what Jimmy Kimmel did was, like, stand up for another talk show host he like he just say the shit that everyone was thinking so i just like it when that happens with public i just love that he decided that it was something that he wanted to do i love that you know he's so is so strongly like in support of conan that he decided to like show solidarity and in his interview with j leno do that you use this word genuine a bunch of times yeah that's like the fucking nucleus of all this stuff like of the podcasts of your genuine conversations and your genuine messages and stuff like that like there's a lot of interesting things happening like Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel and you get somebody who's not afraid to speak the truth that's that's really powerful shit well yeah Jimmy you know Jimmy Calhallon and Jimmy Kimmel both I think you have the sense that they like themselves like they're happy with who they are they're not they're not dissatisfied everybody should fuck yeah everybody should for sure but like Jimmy Kimmel, like when I took over the man show with Doug Stanhope, like he could have been a total dick about that easily.

[1781] He could have been rude.

[1782] He could have made fun of us.

[1783] And it didn't turn out well.

[1784] It turned out to be a disaster.

[1785] I didn't know that he had like a bad relationship with the people that were producing it.

[1786] They had like real issues, legal issues, like issues over content, issues over ownership.

[1787] There was a lot of bullshit that went down apparently.

[1788] I don't know the real roots behind it, but I didn't know that.

[1789] I thought these guys just didn't want to do it anymore, and now we could do it.

[1790] And I didn't talk to them about it, but he was never a dick about it, not even a little bit.

[1791] Like he sent me an email, it was very friendly about it.

[1792] Like the possibility to be a douchebag was there, and he would have been right, and he chose not to do it.

[1793] He would have been right, but it wasn't, he would even been a douchebag.

[1794] It would just make it something that it wasn't, you know.

[1795] And I just, I've always respected that guy, but it respected him even more.

[1796] more because of that because if I was in his position I might make fun of me you know I might be shitty to me and when I did his show he was like super cool like after the fact and I like apologize to him for doing a shitty person in the man show and but it was there was no animosity he's just a good guy and like you can tell that that somehow or another gets through the TV it gets through the wires it reaches you you know somehow or another it gets in there and I don't know how much of that you can fake you know you can fake something you can fake a smidge in a smidge here or there but a genuine niceness like the jimmy fallon exudes damn i don't know if an asshole knows how to do that you know i don't know if an asshole knows how to hit that frequency did you guys see the video of them uh with uh with of you two and jimmy fallon on the opening night no i don't think so oh my god Listen, one of the most transformative moments of my life over the last year was falling asleep on the couch, you know, whatever.

[1797] I worked out, I had something to eat, and I was sitting on the couch.

[1798] And a lot of times I watched like bow hunting shows or I watched MMA fights.

[1799] I'm a fucking caveman.

[1800] If you came over and looked at my DVR, you'd be like, what the fuck is going on here?

[1801] I just like what I like.

[1802] I'm not judging myself, but I fell asleep.

[1803] And I woke up, and it was the premiere of the Jimmy Fallon first season, first episode of the Tonight Show.

[1804] And as I woke up, you two was singing the acapella version of ordinary love, or acoustic version, rather, of ordinary love.

[1805] And, Jamie, pull it up.

[1806] Is that from the Frozen soundtrack?

[1807] You two on, ha, ha, ha.

[1808] Is it, though?

[1809] No. Listen It's a brilliant new song from you too But it's not just that it's brilliant It's one of those moments Where you're watching in Bono You're watching like Just a fucking brilliant artist Say what you want about that guy You know Say what you want about his political ties And his charitable causes And his sunglasses Indoor's at night Say what you want about that guy That guy is a bad motherfucker and whatever it is out there that makes things great whatever it is where you're watching pink singing while she's spiraling around over an audience and never losing tune and knowing that it's completely live or whether it's bono sitting on that fucking couch and youtube behind him playing and jimmy fallon is sitting there and will smith is sitting there and it's so undeniably brilliant that I woke up from a nap sitting on the couch to woke up just in time for them to be joking around and then go into that song like the universe wanted me to see this it's fucking perfect it's a perfect moment of entertainment it has perfect music it has a perfect response it has a perfect moment being the premiere of Jimmy Fallon's version of the Tonight Show.

[1810] It has perfect being one of the greatest actors ever.

[1811] Will Smith is sitting there.

[1812] I mean, a huge fucking movie star.

[1813] I mean, people don't think he's a badass motherfucker.

[1814] I've never seen him play Muhammad Ali.

[1815] The audience is standing up and they're all on their feet.

[1816] There's not a guy with a sign.

[1817] Stand up, stand up, clap, applaud.

[1818] Like, if you go to those, like if you go to Tonight Show's chaping, at least the old ones, they used to have a guy who would tell you went to applaud there's like signs would light up or a guy would like hold up a sign it's crazy that was some beautiful shit right that was amazing and i love the roots god damn i love them i love i love the band i love jim found but i love that moment that moment that i'll never forget that the sitting by myself gym shorts still sweaty like staring at the tv and it comes on and and i'm just like God damn, I just saw something.

[1819] I saw a fucking shooting star.

[1820] I saw an asteroid hit.

[1821] I saw some freaky shit, you know?

[1822] I mean, that's crazy than an asteroid.

[1823] That's only happened once.

[1824] Asteroids have hit the earth many times, you know?

[1825] I mean, how many times has there been a big hole slammed into in the earth because a rock fell from the sky?

[1826] A lot.

[1827] How many times has you two been on the Jimmy Fallon Shai once?

[1828] You two was on the Jimmy Fallon show one time ever, and it was the first time.

[1829] There's only one first time ever in the whole universe that you two is going to be on the Jimmy Fallon show.

[1830] That's crazy.

[1831] Unless you believe in true infinity.

[1832] And that's the monkey wrench.

[1833] Because true infinity means if there is a you that the world is what you see, everything, exists in the exact same form.

[1834] Not only once, but infinitely.

[1835] So not only are there so many possibilities.

[1836] in the concept of infinity.

[1837] Infinity meaning infinite possibilities.

[1838] We can't even imagine what that means.

[1839] What that means is that everything that you've ever experienced, everything that I've ever experienced, you looking exactly like you, you looking exactly like you, you with the same creepy dude who tried to sneak you into the woods to see a fucking largemouth bass, all of that exists in the exact same order, in the exact same form in an infinite number of times.

[1840] so that's how crazy infinity is wrap your fucking head around that I'm like wait a second so somewhere out there it's not just one show right now right there not only that you two is playing you're not supposed to it's like you too I say it like you two shouldn't say it that way but you two right now is probably playing an infinite amount of times all over the universe and at the exact same moment at the exact same moment the exact same words are coming out of the exact same mouth that experience everything that has ever happened the idea of that never happening again for sure the not in the other side of the world but the other side of the universe the idea of everything that has ever happened being unique in comparison to the creation of the world is so preposterous the idea that we're so fucking important because we are able of saying capable of talking capable of explaining how important we are.

[1841] But the idea that we are any weirder than a black hole or a sun, I mean, it's ridiculous.

[1842] So the idea of human civilization happening in the exact same order everywhere, we'd be like, how is that possible?

[1843] But how would it be possible for there to be other planets?

[1844] That's way crazier.

[1845] And there's a fucking shit ton of those, dude.

[1846] How would it be possible that there's water in space?

[1847] Oh, there's a lot of it.

[1848] In fact, that's what you see when you see a comet, stupid.

[1849] You see water flying off the back of that thing.

[1850] That's water.

[1851] That's a fucking Earth -sized chunk of water.

[1852] flying through space.

[1853] Holy shit.

[1854] You know, yeah, the whole thing is nuts.

[1855] It's not nuts that you don't exist, not just once but an infinite amount of times.

[1856] That's more likely than a star.

[1857] That's more likely than a black hole.

[1858] That's more likely than just the idea of people breathing air and staying alive and fish sucking air out of water and some fucking weird contraption called gills.

[1859] That's nuts.

[1860] All of it's nuts.

[1861] The fact that it exists the same place in the same.

[1862] same form all over the universe in an infinite amount of times in exactly the same order, that seems like likely.

[1863] If you think how nuts it is.

[1864] That's why when you see a moment like you two on the Jimmy Fallon show singing that song, you're witnessing a universal unique moment.

[1865] Universal through everything, the whole thing.

[1866] That feeling you get when you get goosebumps, the whole universe got goosebumps for that.

[1867] Well, it's interesting that you woke up for it.

[1868] you're in tune with that kind of thing?

[1869] No, I got lucky.

[1870] I probably had a pee.

[1871] Fair enough.

[1872] I drag a lot of coconut water.

[1873] I drank some of this delicious C2O coconut water.

[1874] I probably had a pee.

[1875] Most likely.

[1876] But maybe not.

[1877] I mean, I'm not convinced that reality's real.

[1878] I'm not convinced you guys are even here.

[1879] We're not.

[1880] I mean, neither.

[1881] I don't know.

[1882] We're not.

[1883] All this YouTube internet stuff is kind of an approximation of it, isn't it?

[1884] Because now we can.

[1885] We just watched it again, and we're experiencing it a different way.

[1886] but that moment has been captured.

[1887] That moment can now repeat itself in our controlled medium, right?

[1888] So maybe this is us piecing together all these things that you're talking about.

[1889] I hope if you see it, the first time you see it, it's before I said anything about it to you.

[1890] The last thing I want is to flavor that moment with some, my own, you know, I think that was just a tremendous performance.

[1891] If somebody sees it and you hear me talking about it, shut it off and go watch the real thing.

[1892] Don't, you know, if somebody puts it on YouTube, We're going to be flavored by something.

[1893] Might as well be flavored by Joe.

[1894] Oh, please.

[1895] Maybe salt would be better.

[1896] Salt and a little cumin.

[1897] Flavored by chair.

[1898] It's really good for you.

[1899] It's an anti -inflammatory.

[1900] Oh, God.

[1901] But, you know, do you guys feel those moments on stage and realize that you're tapping into something unique when that happens?

[1902] When you hit that, you know we were talking about it when we were playing pool?

[1903] Like sometimes you just hit this weird stride where everything's just falling into place.

[1904] And it feels like automatic.

[1905] And you know that there's that moment, I'm sure, it's got to be very similar to the moment like that in comedy with your music.

[1906] There's got to be moments where you guys are just flowing, you know?

[1907] There was a diso moment.

[1908] I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable.

[1909] But there was a moment where you were on stage and you were singing, and it was at the December 21st show, the 2012 end of the world show.

[1910] And both Joey Diaz and Eddie Bravo came off stage.

[1911] and they both at the same time go that's a badass bitch that's a badass bitch that's a badass bitch that's a badass bitch God damn those motherfuckers are talented God and Eddie's like that's a badass bitch God damn those guys are talented but it was that moment where you know you it was we had never done a show with a musical act before and a lot of my friends were skeptical they were like what are you guys gonna do like how does that work together how's the work I think the music probably shouldn't be in the middle because it would be like it would like interrupt the flow of the comedy, but I think it would enhance the beginning of the comedy.

[1912] And I think, you know, so we do it this way.

[1913] And so when we, when we did it and you guys got on stage, it was the first time that Eddie had ever seen you guys live.

[1914] And, uh, you know, he was like, holy shit, they're good.

[1915] He was like, the lyrics, the fucking the music, the, the choices they made.

[1916] He just was just like shaking his head.

[1917] But I'll never forget that moment where they both walked off stage because they were both shaking their heads.

[1918] Because, you know, Joey was going to go on stage next and do some stand up we got so lucky to be involved with this well we're lucky too we're all lucky we're lucky shit i i wouldn't be you know this this would this would this show would be completely uninteresting it was just me talking every week i disagree i think you have a lot to say and it's very interesting people are hurt they've heard it already by now i've run out of shit to say i repeat myself i don't even like listening to me anymore but we're we're all lucky for reals you know including people listening we're all in on this in some fucking weird way We're all in on this thing together.

[1919] It's just that folks like you and I and Red Band and whoever's on the mic out there, you're a part of the lightning rod.

[1920] You're part of the lightning rod that distributes all this shit, but we're all in it together.

[1921] We don't even know what we're doing.

[1922] We don't even know why we're doing it.

[1923] We just start doing it, and then somewhere along the line we realize we love it.

[1924] And the next thing, you know, you're singing songs or you're telling jokes or you're fucking making guitars, whatever it is, you know, you find that thing.

[1925] Two big teepees.

[1926] Yeah, two big teepees.

[1927] You find that weird weird thing out there in the world You know Whatever it is And if you don't God damn Keep looking Keep looking It's rousing man I feel like I'm kind of like Really I don't even know what to do I'm rousing myself up I don't even know if I'm honest No question It's all literature It's all fiction It's coming from the universe Play another song Yeah sure I got to like Re -acclimate myself I'm a So you want to play this one I'm chumpton I feel like we should play an uplifting one No, you don't have to play an uplifting If you want to make the folks cry Maybe we'll have a little yin and yang Okay A peek in a high and a low Whatever you want We're gonna put some yang on this Can I make a request?

[1928] We may not be able to fulfill it, but you can tell you How dare you?

[1929] How's that not possible?

[1930] Will you guys play L .A. River?

[1931] I'll do that.

[1932] Yeah, I'll try to mess it up.

[1933] I fucking love that song Sure You want to do it right now?

[1934] Here we go, here we go.

[1935] I'm going to try some of...

[1936] That's one of the cool things about music.

[1937] You guys can take requests.

[1938] Have comedians take requests?

[1939] We haven't played this in a while.

[1940] I will really try not to mess with that.

[1941] That's just Thunder Pussy.

[1942] That kind of request is great.

[1943] You know, maybe you just play.

[1944] Okay, okay.

[1945] Oh, I got it.

[1946] Boom.

[1947] All right, I got this.

[1948] Here we go.

[1949] Oh, the air, have to hop a chain link fence, concrete walls on the air, water lapping up on the cement, listen to the big city sound, watching that it.

[1950] By the trains past Chinatown, go down the L .A. I saw a body in the weed.

[1951] To the big city side.

[1952] Oh shit.

[1953] Do that one?

[1954] Yeah, that was beautiful.

[1955] I'll play that in a while.

[1956] I love that fucking song.

[1957] That was badass.

[1958] Holy shit.

[1959] That was really cool.

[1960] I like the banjo's making a comeback.

[1961] I'd like that.

[1962] Big time.

[1963] You know, the banjo gets thrown under the bus a lot.

[1964] What happened?

[1965] I had the banjo get her a...

[1966] Oh, those motherfuckers.

[1967] You know what?

[1968] It's okay.

[1969] That's inundated.

[1970] I like being the underdog.

[1971] I'm from Cleveland, you know?

[1972] It's like you're, you got to just...

[1973] You got to come back up.

[1974] fucking banjo deep respect for Drew Carey oh man I met Drew Carey I met him at I met him at Swingers the diner oh okay yeah he's there every day almost and he's a great guy and I walked up to him and I don't normally do this kind of thing but I'm a hometown hero lover you know and I was like Drew my name's Suzanne I'm from Parma Ohio which is what the show was based on I think we talked about this on the podcast yeah did we and he was so fucking nice and he actually tweeted at us I threw a tweet at him and he was super cool really nice guy he's a sweetheart he's a genuine nice guy yeah it's nice to be run into people that are genuinely nice it's cool you know and and when they're not uh fuck him maybe you caught him on a bad day too you can't really judge somebody could be could be we've all been there yeah we've all been there you guys gonna move back to l .a come on i i want to we just we need to make this record and then make some more dope make some all cash make it rain You know what I was thinking, though, when you were talking about the banjah, I remember about Nashville.

[1975] Something that's amazing about Nashville is it has this real wellspring of music, which is...

[1976] Would you just do?

[1977] Yeah, there's a lot of music in Nashville, right?

[1978] But there's a lot of traditional music and, like, you know, stuff that's like, hey, it's an American.

[1979] You know, and not in a bad way.

[1980] Like, bluegrass music, I mean, it didn't come out of Nashville specifically, but that region, you have traditional music, and you're not really in touch with that in many other places.

[1981] Like, here, there's a great music scene.

[1982] But there aren't people who are like keeping a flame alive as far as I...

[1983] That's interesting.

[1984] So they're keeping like a bluegrass flame alive?

[1985] They really are.

[1986] Like American Roots music is huge.

[1987] And there's people that are dedicated to just like spreading this shit.

[1988] Making sure people know about it.

[1989] Huh.

[1990] And that's, I mean, that's why the banjo is still around, you know, because someone...

[1991] Yeah.

[1992] I mean, there's like there's always been a respect that rock and roll guys pay to things like bluegrass or the blues.

[1993] or did you ever you know i'm sure you guys know the song one of my all -time favorite skinnered songs the the ballad of curtis low do you know that song it's about uh him uh picking up bottles and returning them so he could give money to this guy Curtis low so you sing him a song because this guy would sit out and they'd give him money and buy wine with it and he would sing songs for people and it's just a fucking beautiful song but it's not just a beautiful song it's a beautiful song that's Skinner did as like just in honor of these unknown blues guys that are respect for That are responsible for all this shit You know it's like you look Jimmy Hendricks He didn't exist without these guys I was reading about some guy You know this was like the recording era In the 40s and 50s You'd have they just zone in on these blues guys They'd find them on the street This guy blind Willie McTell He was in and they bring him up to New York And they cut songs with them Give them like 25 bucks Seriously and send them back and make millions, make millions of dollars.

[1994] And 20 years after he's put out all these records, this guy, like Atlantic Records, this guy, Amit Erdogan finds him on the street still, and he's just doing his thing.

[1995] Wow.

[1996] That's fucked.

[1997] And there's a whole community of these guys, man. Well, there was quite a few that definitely got taken advantage of, for sure.

[1998] You know, and there's all this weird lore behind it all, too.

[1999] Like, I always was fascinated by Robert Johnson, you know, and the whole...

[2000] Yeah, the Crossroads.

[2001] Yeah, the Crossroads.

[2002] You're sold to the devil.

[2003] I would have thought the devil would give him better songs I mean the songs are pretty good They're really good But they're really good for the time I would think the devil would have like mad universal magic Like there's songs that for whatever reason They just don't quite hang in there They don't quite hold up There's some old songs You listen to them they're fascinating But they don't quite touch you You know and then you get to a certain point where they're like, okay, this song will exist forever.

[2004] And my, my register is like songs like whole lot of love.

[2005] Like Zeppelin, whole lot of love.

[2006] Like, I don't give a fuck what happens.

[2007] I don't care if they invent time travel.

[2008] I don't care if you've got like robots on Pluto that put your body in suspended animation and print a 3D copy of it that breathes carbon dioxide and it wanders around on the surface.

[2009] I don't care.

[2010] You're not going to make a better song than a whole lot of love.

[2011] You might make a different song.

[2012] It might be different, but it's not going to be better.

[2013] It's not possible to be better.

[2014] There's something about that.

[2015] There's something about the beauty of Palmer's voice and the sounds of the guitar and Jimmy Page is hitting it perfect and it's the time.

[2016] It's the time.

[2017] There's marijuana smoke in the air And everyone's on LSD It's just It's just a different time They captured this rare moment Where the universe gave birth to flowers The universe gave birth You like these artistic flowers In the form of human expression They were birthed out of the human consciousness And imagination Yeah, they're the pioneers You know, they kind of started this thing But it's interesting now Juxtaposed to like music made today where there's so many manufactured sounds and stuff it's not like hey this is what the drums sound in my like in my friend's basement you know fucking awesome but doesn't it seem like things that are i hate the word organic but it seems like the right words you used to describe people like the black keys like that they yeah they're they're awesome but they're also still like they didn't come up with that sound well but you know they didn't come up with the blues they just executed really well right but zeppelin that's the kind it's like the robert johnson thing and pioneers are like that's a great word and I also think not a fitting one necessarily maybe ever because somebody always did it before and there was always something that's true isn't that so true yeah isn't that so true isn't that what's unique about the whole thing is that someone else has always there's no real pioneers it's just everyone is sort of handing a torch off and there's this moments where someone comes up with a whole lot of love and you're like what the fuck is you made a black diamond that weighs a thousand pounds you know you figured out a way to make some like universal weird and unusual and an important objects.

[2018] And they probably weren't even trying.

[2019] They're just kind of filtering this stuff.

[2020] It's like a set of circumstances and experiences.

[2021] Okay, these British dudes hear this music.

[2022] They're from this weird working class town.

[2023] And when they play...

[2024] They're really tight pants.

[2025] Yeah, yeah.

[2026] Flot the bulge.

[2027] And there's some of them that, you know, sometimes you have to step back away from them to realize how great they really were.

[2028] Like, if you don't listen to Sweet Home Alabama for six months, and that's what you have to do.

[2029] It's like, if you don't have to do it.

[2030] have sex for like six weeks when you when you do have sex it'll be so amazing because every touch will be like the power of the touch will be inflated beyond belief every all of it the sparks the energy the but the only way for that to build up is you got to take some time off and sweet home alabama's overplayed to death they beat the fuck out of that song because it's so good but sometimes you can forget you forget how good it's still a good role in the hay is what you're saying All you need is a little time off.

[2031] You need a little time off, and you realize that's God trying to speak through some fat, long -haired Florida boys.

[2032] That's God speaking through them.

[2033] Man, I'm trying to find the correlation between sex, not having sex for six weeks, and then listening to Seattle.

[2034] Because you have to see, you can't, familiarity breeds contempt.

[2035] To me, we're just.

[2036] Familiarity breeds contempt.

[2037] You know, sweet Alabama inside and out.

[2038] You can't appreciate what it really is.

[2039] What it really is, is these guys found a lightning rod to the universal constant.

[2040] They just hit that fucking button.

[2041] Sweet home, Alabama.

[2042] And this is 19, whatever, 70, who the fuck knows?

[2043] The cars were all dog shit, fucking oil crisis is, and fucking Nixon and Jimmy Carter.

[2044] Everybody's a mess.

[2045] And then all of a sudden these fat guys out of Florida, ugly white trash fat guys.

[2046] sweet home how the bad not even fat all the time like in the beginning actually kind of a happy song man that's like a joyful song at moments right they were amazing whatever the fuck they were for that brief moment of time you know before that plane crash they were amazing leonard skinner to this day if i have uh like a list of shit of my ipod and i'm like in an airport or something like that and i'm scrolling through and i see my little skinnard folder i'm like D .C. I feel the same way.

[2047] Fuck, yeah.

[2048] Even if every song sounds like an ACDC song, like they don't vary at all.

[2049] Doesn't matter.

[2050] It's like, do it like, that's like a chemical rush when you put that stuff.

[2051] Yeah.

[2052] Well, I want Orioles.

[2053] They're so unique in that.

[2054] And it's like, you know, da -d -d -da -d -d -you know, you hear that.

[2055] Like, they have that such a marching sort of style, you know.

[2056] Yeah, that's browsing shit.

[2057] So many guys come, like, into the cage, into mixed martial arts fights.

[2058] And even in boxing fights.

[2059] They listen to ACDC.

[2060] Fuck, yeah.

[2061] Thunderstruck's a big one.

[2062] You know, we had a really kind of defining moment of our, of our lifetime, I would say, not lifetime, but we saw Black Sabbath.

[2063] We were overseas.

[2064] We were in Amsterdam, and it actually happened to then Thanksgiving as well.

[2065] And a friend of ours got us tickets to see Black Sabbath.

[2066] And, you know, you got to think, like, how much longer does Ozzy got?

[2067] You don't want to miss it if you have an opportunity.

[2068] And it was amazing.

[2069] Like, it was really, you really saw his energy was, was so genuine.

[2070] It really was.

[2071] You could tell he was having a blast.

[2072] He couldn't sing for shit.

[2073] I mean, he was so off key that he was almost back in key.

[2074] Like, it was so far off an octave that it was almost back in.

[2075] But it was so entertaining to see him because he really felt, like, you felt his energy was, like, across the whole, like, it was called the Zygodome.

[2076] It was this huge, you know, place.

[2077] And it was a, it was a really crazy.

[2078] experience to see Ozzy Osbourne, you know, up on stage, doing his thing.

[2079] He's got his, like, signature moves.

[2080] Like, between each song, he'd be like, I can't fucking hear you.

[2081] And then, ah, we're screaming, you know, and it was crazy.

[2082] But it was really, really great to see, like, you know, he's legendary.

[2083] Brian, you remember when we went to see, you were with me when we went to see Steel Panthers, right?

[2084] Yeah, in Vegas.

[2085] We went to see Steel Panthers in Vegas.

[2086] And the dude who's the lead singer does the most insane.

[2087] impression of Ozzy Osbourne I mean pitch movement like the way he shuffles on stage he does crazy train and it's like holy shit it's so good it makes you want to go see Ozzy Osbourne it really is so good that's a bizarre place that they have bands like Steel Panther it's amazing but it makes you want to see somebody else well they have they're not just a band they're like a show you know those guys kind of like a review well it's it's yeah it's almost like a little bit of that It's hard to tell, but this audio is hard to hear When we see it live, though, it's fucking insane I mean, he sounds like Ozzy Osbourne in his prime I mean, exactly, it's brilliant, you know Wow Yeah, it made you want to go see Ozzy before it's too late Yeah Who knows how the keeps in that guy alive There was a good 20 to 30 minute drum solo that went on It was being transported, you were in the 70s You were there, yeah And this is what people did We took weed very often, but I did in Amsterdam, and it was crazy.

[2088] I mean, you're just like, fuck, yeah, I'm going to get high at Black Sabbath.

[2089] I remember one time I was writing.

[2090] I was coming home on a plane, and I was writing, and a lot of times when I write, I'll eat like a pot edible before I get on a plane, and this one was particularly strong.

[2091] And for whatever reason, I decided to play crazy train over and over and over again.

[2092] I put it on repeat, and I played that song for fucking five hours while I was writing all the way from All the way from New York, back to L .A. It was five hours of crazy train.

[2093] Oh, my God.

[2094] Yeah.

[2095] It's just one of those things.

[2096] It's like you catch a great, great groove.

[2097] That's interesting.

[2098] I've never thought about writing two other music because usually I'm writing music, but that'd be, you know, like.

[2099] What does it sound exactly like crazy train?

[2100] Like when I was, like, I could never, like, study when I was in school.

[2101] I could never really study if there's music in the background because I'd be really distracted by it.

[2102] Most of the time I feel the same way, but I needed comfort.

[2103] Yeah.

[2104] That's really cool.

[2105] It's five hours.

[2106] I was too high.

[2107] That's dedication.

[2108] I needed comfort.

[2109] But it's also when you get super high patterns start to, once they become like very recognizable by the mind, the mind settles into this idea that there's not going to be any interruptions in those patterns.

[2110] So like crazy train essentially becomes like a three minute and 35 second ohm.

[2111] That's great.

[2112] This is helping me because I'm really bad at being high.

[2113] I'm so bad.

[2114] I'm not.

[2115] It's not, it's not, I lose my sparkle, you know, I really just can't, I can't, I can't, um, I'm not present, you know, I can't really focus on a conversation and I feel very self -aware and I want to take a fucking nap.

[2116] I hear you.

[2117] I totally understand those things.

[2118] They're very, very logical.

[2119] But I think that, um, what I like about it is that terrible feeling of everything going completely off the rails.

[2120] And then you get back to reality, you take a deep breath, you go, we're okay.

[2121] everything's okay because it gives you it gives you such a bizarrely introspective perspective and such an intensely sensitive view of the world that when the ride is over like you get off and you go okay we're fine now okay this is helpful it's like going on a really shitty vacation so work feels better so you appreciate your job yeah yeah okay well it's not even that it's shitty it's uniquely terrifying moments it reveals to you the the beautiful of just placid reality when everything's just relaxed.

[2122] Yeah, see, I just get, I used to smoke all the time, but I hit this rut of massive anxiety and just sickly.

[2123] Well, you don't really remember, like, was it like your 23rd and 24th year?

[2124] Is that what you said?

[2125] Yeah, it was about two years.

[2126] That was about high for two years.

[2127] Yeah, it was pretty crazy.

[2128] It was really tough to work with you that.

[2129] I love you, but it was, that was those were some tough times.

[2130] Shaped you as a man. Yeah.

[2131] I can't remember anything.

[2132] Those cosmic voyages to despair.

[2133] Yeah.

[2134] Twisty, turning roads into the night where you hear a car start to sputter.

[2135] You're like...

[2136] It is very much an upper.

[2137] Really?

[2138] Yeah.

[2139] That's interesting.

[2140] Yeah, it's really...

[2141] If you have to drive for a long time, I know...

[2142] Tough to be rough.

[2143] What is...

[2144] You know, it's interesting how they will prescribe certain, like, kind of uppers to people that are hyperactive, and it sort of balances the...

[2145] Adderall's really fun.

[2146] Let me tell you.

[2147] I've heard that from several people this week.

[2148] It feels like the two times I've taken Adderall recreation.

[2149] I felt like I was on mushrooms.

[2150] It was the best thing ever.

[2151] Actually, we were in Paris.

[2152] We were in Paris on tour.

[2153] And I took an Adderall and we went to the Eiffel Tower and I had the best time ever.

[2154] I felt amazing.

[2155] Wow.

[2156] Yeah, it was super fun.

[2157] And we had a really fun show.

[2158] I mean, I wouldn't.

[2159] Do they have Cosette?

[2160] Did you the show on Adderall?

[2161] No, no, no. It was way earlier in the day.

[2162] I was ready to.

[2163] The Adderall was worn off.

[2164] Yeah, I don't, I don't like to be.

[2165] I don't like to be.

[2166] the um how long does it take to wear off i don't know six hours oh my god yeah it was fucking awesome oh shit you're the second person hannibal beres said it the other day too it was really fun but you know i could say his name wrong all the time with burris with shows and stuff like that you definitely like you got to be present you know you don't want i have to be in control of all of my faculties wow as much as possible yeah no i totally understand but something that lasts for six hours that seems like fuck yeah boners that last for six hours yeah that's probably A problem.

[2167] We've talked about that two days.

[2168] All of it's a problem.

[2169] All of it's a problem.

[2170] God.

[2171] It's crazy.

[2172] Did you wear a fanny pack or something to like...

[2173] I actually just took one last night, so I'm on it right now.

[2174] So are you...

[2175] Do you have wood right now?

[2176] TMI, Brian.

[2177] I don't know if I want to know.

[2178] TMI.

[2179] I feel uncomfortable.

[2180] I'm amazed how you could feel comfortable ever here.

[2181] Just knowing he's breathing.

[2182] So you're saying you went out last night or did you just stay home alone?

[2183] Sometimes you just fires one of them up just to let everybody know what's...

[2184] I got a massage last night So I just did it before that A massage In quotes, air quotes You creeper It's just better that way Listen, we live in trying times It wasn't even a rubbing tug You just wanted to fuck with the massage therapist What an asshole What an asshole Giant fucking snake Coming out of the top of his pants What is that?

[2185] Is that a turtle head?

[2186] What is that?

[2187] What is that?

[2188] What's that pink thing?

[2189] Can we go back to talking about?

[2190] about passion and fun yeah well you know what we need to talk about everything that's the problem yeah can't just talk only about passion people get bored of the same goddamn speeches over and over again you brought up the boner anyway listen i did story my life i would bring it up if i was a chick too you're welcome if i was a chick i'd been bringing up boners all day so explain to me boners do you know when they're coming what are you guys doing later i'd be like is it like does it give you like a whispery hair like whistling in your ears you know the the the demon boners on its way the howling between the worlds opens up just a creek and the boner spirits come flying through your fucking nervous system boner spirits you feel them yeah like i i there's i had an interesting conversation with this girl once and she was talking about like uh um like the difference between a woman getting excited and a man getting excited is that it's pretty obvious if a man's excited but like a woman could be a prostitute and she could totally pretend to be excited and not give a fuck but a man has like this one thing that he has to show and so if if he's like acting excited but he doesn't have an erection they're like hey something's wrong here you're being deceptive liar what's going on here you are full of shit it's like it's interesting how nature set that up it's way easier to lie to dudes it's also way easier to lie to dudes I disagree though I'm not I mean God We're totally getting down But like if you're if you're not wet You're not wet And that's got to be disappointing For a dude Yeah but that's I mean come on There's a difference We don't know any better We're retarded apparently Not I could convince myself otherwise Men are retarded It's easy for us to yeah You know she's not She wasn't wet but it was She's so horny The problem is on this new pill This doesn't you know She's probably going to get off and go organic.

[2191] She's probably gluten -free.

[2192] It does make a difference.

[2193] I'm sure it does.

[2194] Being on birth control and not on birth control.

[2195] What I'm saying is you...

[2196] I bet it does.

[2197] It's insane.

[2198] You have better orgasms, like all the whole thing.

[2199] It's like you come out from this, yeah.

[2200] Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

[2201] It's like a muted sexual side to yourself.

[2202] I'm sure.

[2203] But your boobs get bigger and that's fun.

[2204] It's letting your body think that it's pregnant.

[2205] Yeah, it's really weird.

[2206] That's what it is.

[2207] It's letting your body.

[2208] I think that it's pregnant.

[2209] I don't think I would ever go back on anything like that.

[2210] It's crazy.

[2211] It's probably not the smartest thing for your body, right?

[2212] But it helps people in some things, like girls who have acne a lot of times we'll get on it.

[2213] It actually gave me acne.

[2214] Whoa.

[2215] Yeah, it was a real bummer.

[2216] Yeah.

[2217] It's interesting still also that they've never figured out a solution like that for men, like a pill solution.

[2218] And I wonder if it had the same sort of compromising aspects.

[2219] Well, there's acutane if you want the hard stuff, but that's pretty hard.

[2220] I think we're talking about bonies.

[2221] Right.

[2222] I mean something that keeps men, moving up north.

[2223] It makes men sterile.

[2224] Like a sterilizer.

[2225] Yeah.

[2226] Well, that's a horrible thought.

[2227] Like a temporary sterilization.

[2228] Listen to what you just said.

[2229] That's a horrible thought.

[2230] But the pill is like the irreversible side of it.

[2231] Well, the vasectomy is reversible.

[2232] Is it not?

[2233] And apparently it's like a walk -in procedure.

[2234] I don't know if it's 100 % reversible.

[2235] I think sometimes they can, you know, I mean, you have to go to a really good doctor that knows what they're doing.

[2236] but I think there definitely can be complications when ever you start cutting and stitching stuff back up.

[2237] It is unfortunate that all of the pressure lies on the woman.

[2238] Yeah, it is.

[2239] It is.

[2240] And you're right, I did just kind of reveal it like that.

[2241] Now that I think about it, it's horrifying to me to think of fucking with the testicles, but the same time it's totally routine to be like, take that pill.

[2242] Yeah, do you know what if you get an IUD?

[2243] That shit is fucked up.

[2244] I went into shock.

[2245] Did you really?

[2246] Yeah, I went into shock.

[2247] Like I literally, you know, had like, it's called Bezo or vague I don't know how to describe I can't remember the actual word Vaso dilation Well you your body Like it doesn't reject it I'm just repeating words I've heard online It's that sounds It's close But it's like There's a word for it I know trans content's a railroad But it's intense The Gadsden purchase Great That's really funny I'm sorry I'm sorry We're talking about Can you guys get that's You're going into shock Because you got a robot And fucking turned into your vagina And we're like Coming up with liddy words Sorry What a bunch of dicks I feel better It's okay I can fucking hang with the boys It certainly is like Rude Not just of us But of culture To sort of make that distinction Like it would be disgusting For a guy to take a pill That makes you sterile Like kills your sperm You would be like Turned off by that And just didn't put it on the market I think there's a certain valuable Asset Sort of mindset That goes along With the idea of fertility and I think that virility and fertility are very important to men and the idea of killing all your spermies with a pill seems scary you know if you're really going to totally commit you would get an operation if you weren't going to totally commit the idea of cooking them with some sort of an evil compound swallowing it you'll be fine yeah but it can't come out the same way it's like vegetables yeah probably would you cook with frozen vegetables it's like drinking in V8.

[2248] Would you rather cook with frozen vegetables?

[2249] Not necessarily.

[2250] Yeah.

[2251] Something's wrong there.

[2252] We don't know what it is.

[2253] I totally get it.

[2254] If I was a check, I'd be really bummed out if somebody wanted me to take a pill that made my body think that it's pregnant and then also kills your libido, which is probably what nature would do, like almost automatically if you're pregnant.

[2255] Probably like, okay, slow down, hooker.

[2256] Slow down.

[2257] You don't need anymore dick you got a baby on the way you know it's um it's an interesting like when you go through your relationships like obviously if you're dating it's not as much of a problem you know because you use condoms and that's fine honestly like but but if you're really serious with somebody and then you get to that point where you're like you know i love you i don't want to use this anymore let's let's kick it up a notch you know it is uh then you get to that point where like you you you have to figure out well shit how do i want to manipulate you my body to have more pleasurable sex or a more intimate connection, if you will, and or, you know, let's just, let's have a, you know, risk that we're going to take and it may or may not make a baby.

[2258] That's fucking terrifying.

[2259] Yeah.

[2260] The idea may or may not make a person is a fucking tricky thing, especially when you're young musicians trying to travel the road and Yeah, I don't want to get anybody pregnant on the road That would fucking suck What would happen if you had to visit your baby daddy in Tennessee Got some guy pregnant in Tennessee Imagine if chicks could get guys pregnant Boy, dudes would be such prudes It'd be hilarious If girls could get us pregnant It'd be like fucking Guys would be like a total row reversal What the fuck are you crying about?

[2261] I could jerk off I just fucking jerk off I'll be fine over here, just jerking off I don't need anybody get me pregnant We'd just get tons of abortions It would be like everyone would be getting abortions every day.

[2262] But what if you were a dude who had this weird sort of genetic desire to breed?

[2263] You know?

[2264] What if you were like, you had all these male aggressive qualities that we associate with being male, but also the need to get pregnant?

[2265] Like the universe hit a switch on you.

[2266] It's just weirder shit when it comes to like fucking frogs that can switch sex and weird fucking bugs.

[2267] that you know it's interesting some people love to get pregnant just to say that they're pregnant i'm not kidding it's really fucking weird you meet a lot of people out there you know and it's just like do you think they're really getting pregnant just to say they're pregnant or do you think they just like to maybe they're not getting pregnant but but they sometimes they enjoy the um what's like an accomplishment portion right to a certain well it definitely gets you congratulations almost immediately well i definitely feel like it can be let me rephrase that because got you know go for it everybody if you want to you want to you want to get down procreate like fucking more power to you but you have to admit you've seen people exploit it yes in a way that it's like like do you really want to have this this life that you're creating or do you just love like your facebook updates and you know what i mean like there's there's an interesting aspect like i think it's it's someone in in someone i know posted a photo of the pregnancy test right on the Facebook.

[2268] It was like, you peed on that.

[2269] That's fucked up.

[2270] You know?

[2271] I think as a person who's never given birth, your perspective would radically change if you...

[2272] That's true.

[2273] And I've never been pregnant.

[2274] But it's also like what people choose to and not to share on Facebook.

[2275] Right.

[2276] You know, that gets real squirrelly.

[2277] Like, you know, sometimes like you go on someone's Facebook and like, especially if it's someone that you know, and they write like a bunch of like really personal shit about a relationship or something I'm gonna walk away from this I'm certainly not gonna comment you go girl you know good things come to those who wait or some fucking Maxwell House coffee commercial like whatever you know blah blah blah sorry to hear you fucking you're in the dumps like why is why are people like broadcasts and stuff like that to the whole world remember the guy who was like he was like that's it I'm don't done like i'm on the edge and you reach out to him because you're a good man ben had somebody that he knew we're not going to but like it was say his name it'd be good for everybody involved norman rockwell norman your painting seems so cheery americana you captured it i think people are fucking lonely yeah and and that's it right that is an outlet that everyone has access to you know so nobody's going to listen to him in real life so they can put it out there and maybe someone will listen to them digitally.

[2278] It's a powerful and yet terrifying thing sometimes because then you get people that are fucking annoying and then people that are really serious in a dark way or you know it's such a weird balance I can never tell how I feel about it because social media is great for a band like us because that's how you stay afloat.

[2279] Right.

[2280] You know that's how you stay present.

[2281] Right.

[2282] Because we're not a signed van.

[2283] We're not on the radio.

[2284] But at the same time then there's like, then your personal circle, your personal friends, and that's some crazy shit.

[2285] You know, sometimes you just get these people that like they want to reveal these really personal things and I never know what to do.

[2286] I just block that shit.

[2287] And I think it's, it can be off -putting but it's also important too for people to be able to get shit out, right?

[2288] Yeah.

[2289] I was listening to something and they were talking about these mental health.

[2290] Talk to people.

[2291] I think it's good to talk to people, man. Yeah, talking to people's definitely the best.

[2292] Yeah.

[2293] It is.

[2294] You're right.

[2295] I'm sorry.

[2296] I heard something about mental health workers in Africa, right?

[2297] And they were over there and all these African chives people or more native people were kind of rejecting these mental health workers because they'd come in.

[2298] Oh, yeah.

[2299] And these people, the more, these African people would say, well, they come in here and they don't say anything about dancing.

[2300] They don't say anything about putting it out for the community and say anything about turning these feelings, you know, depersonalizing them as evil spirits, they just tell us to come into a room with a stranger, a dark room with a stranger to talk about their problems, you know, talk therapy, instead of, and they'd say we don't want this kind of Western feel.

[2301] We want to just get it out and do it together and dance and hang, you know?

[2302] And I'm not saying Facebook is really doing that, but there's a certain similarity there between like, man, share it.

[2303] It's all right.

[2304] Well, it is eventually, I think.

[2305] There's excessive sharing, though.

[2306] Well, there's excessive sharing, though.

[2307] Well, there's excessive sharing and it's also like it's all about like the the comfort that people have in discussing like very personal relationship stuff with or very personal uh you know morbid thoughts or worries about your own finite life or whatever it is that you like sometimes you read someone's facebook page and you want to know whether or not you should reach out to them read some like moody thing that they wrote and you go whoa like what the fuck is he saying here like what is this some shit that I'm going to read and then wish that I called him when I hear that something went wrong yeah you know yeah we all worry about that kind of stuff but I think that what we're doing by like connecting with each other on like things like Twitter and then things like Facebook and then ultimately whatever the new ones are that keep coming because it seems like they're never it's never going to stop they're going to get like deep.

[2308] This Oculus Rift Facebook connection, who knows where the hell that's going to lead.

[2309] But that could lead to some insane place.

[2310] I mean, Oculus Rift, if you've never put it on before, Duncan has one of these things.

[2311] You slap the helmet on, maybe he'll let you use it.

[2312] It's amazing.

[2313] And right now, it's in its intensity.

[2314] What is it?

[2315] I don't know anything about it.

[2316] Oh, how dare you?

[2317] It's...

[2318] Oculus Rift is a new version of virtual reality that they're developing games for, and they have a few demos right now, and they're making some new games.

[2319] But most of what, you're getting when you look at the tech these days is essentially samples of what's potentially possible a door into whatever this is that's so intoxicating that Facebook how much they pay for it I think it was three hundred dollars three hundred bucks is a well it's just it's just a dev kit right now so like right now it's really no no I mean how much did Facebook pay two billion I thought you're being silly you're like three hundred dollars I'm like damn I wish I'd know I would give them four shit but what it Two billion, hello, that's how crazy this technology is.

[2320] You put this headset on and you look around and you see the sky, you see leaves falling from the trees, you see birds flying around, three -dimensional environment.

[2321] What?

[2322] Yeah, and they have this one...

[2323] Can you interact with it?

[2324] You can walk around in it.

[2325] Right now you can't interact with it, but unquestionably it's coming.

[2326] I want to text Duncan and say, I want to wear your helmet, but that might be weird.

[2327] No, it won't.

[2328] He'll let you do both.

[2329] you should be specified which one you like first or whether or not together because that would be fucking crazy with the helmet on you'd be like what am i feeling but what am i seeing i see leaves falling when someone's fucking in the ass they really got to figure it out though because it's it still makes a lot of people sick and you know every time i let people use it they're like most of them are like no this is i can't i have to sit down well i tried it and it didn't make me sick i think it's the universe trying to weed out weak bitches Did you do the roller coaster one?

[2330] No, I'm just kidding.

[2331] The one I did was so mild.

[2332] I'm completely kidding, because all I did was walk around in the backyard.

[2333] It didn't make me sick.

[2334] But I have heard.

[2335] I get sick when I read my laptop in the back of a car.

[2336] Like, if I'm in the backseat and someone else is driving, I try to read my laptop.

[2337] So how are you with things like Call of Duty, like 360 video games?

[2338] I can't do that shit.

[2339] It's like watching the Blair Witch Project.

[2340] I don't play them because I get addicted to games.

[2341] I have an issue.

[2342] Seriously, peekie?

[2343] Peaky?

[2344] I've had a little bit Nothing You're a little crazy With Call of Duty?

[2345] It just makes you pukey It makes me super I thought you said peeky I was like I might I might have I feel like I hear myself slurring And I want to stop talking now So goodbye Listen I think we're out of time We're going to turn into a Any second now But it's always awesome Hanging out with you guys I'm honored to be a friend I love you guys You're the shit You're such positive, awesome fun people to be around And where I can speak for Brian And we're honored to be friends with you.

[2346] I'm tired of speaking for you, Brian.

[2347] Speak for yourself, bitch.

[2348] I love you guys.

[2349] Love you, Brian.

[2350] He said it.

[2351] He means it, too.

[2352] He tells me when you're not around.

[2353] Thanks to our podcast sponsors.

[2354] Thanks to, God damn it.

[2355] Why don't I ever...

[2356] Luminosity.

[2357] Yeah, I know what it is.

[2358] I just don't know what their code is.

[2359] Lomosity.

[2360] Make them all the same.

[2361] Hold on.

[2362] I'll find out.

[2363] Lumosity.

[2364] I won't leave you hanging, you freaks, because I love your...

[2365] I think you just say that...

[2366] Joe sent you.

[2367] Like when you're signing up, there's a place to actually choose.

[2368] No, it's actually wrong again, Brian.

[2369] It's lumosity .com slash Joe.

[2370] So go to lumosity .com slash Joe and click the start training button and start playing your first game.

[2371] Lumosity, it's a bunch of cool games designed to increase your brain's ability to function faster because of exercise.

[2372] The idea is it's a gym for your mind.

[2373] Now, what I said there, your brain's ability to function factor, faster, take into count that I am certainly not a scientist by any church of the imagination, nor do I know if those games really truly...

[2374] I read studies that they say that games, video games especially, enhance cognitive function in some strange way.

[2375] What the fuck do I know, though, folks, huh?

[2376] Am I there?

[2377] Why they're doing these tests?

[2378] Huh?

[2379] What I'm saying is, Lumosity is fun and accomplishes a lot of the...

[2380] the things that they've attributed to video games.

[2381] You can even design games specifically for the shit that you're interested in.

[2382] And I'm giving Lumosity a full commercial because I'm not sure if we did it the first time because I've got sort of eliminated by an accidental Mac explosion.

[2383] Anyway, Lumosity .com forward slash Joe.

[2384] I will see you guys on Friday with the great Dennis McKenna.

[2385] Dennis is bringing in a good friend of his.

[2386] And we're going to have a crazy podcast that is most of us.

[2387] likely going to blow your fucking mind so tune in then as well and uh i will see you guys uh april 3rd in miami at the fillmore theater with the great tony hitchcliff and uh the other two dates uh baltimore on april 25th and orlando on april 18 both those dates are almost sold out so hop on it freaks all right much love see soon big kiss honey honey honey honey band on twitter Paula