#214 - Duncan Trussell

[0] Coming up, we've got kettlebells and a bunch of the cool nutritional things.

[1] You know, BetaBrain also has a mood -enhancing drug.

[2] It's called Blue Mood.

[3] It makes it so that you can, like, really listen to Elliot Smith.

[4] And we'll fucking love it.

[5] I wonder if someone could sell pills that made you depressed.

[6] People would buy them.

[7] People would buy them.

[8] I mean, look at what cigarettes are.

[9] Cigarettes are something that makes you feel like shit and smell terrible.

[10] And yet, they're, like, it's super popular.

[11] It kills people.

[12] and then it's super popular.

[13] If you had depression pills and you just had them out there, it would be like a news story.

[14] News at 5.

[15] Is this new pill crossing the line?

[16] It's marketed as depression.

[17] And then you go there and there's a chick with white makeup on a black lipstick because she goes, life fucking sucks.

[18] It's always fucking sucked, okay?

[19] And when I take these pills, I see reality.

[20] And that's what I want.

[21] If you don't like it, fuck you.

[22] What is wrong with the children of today?

[23] And is this depression drug?

[24] crossing the line happiness is annoying when you're around happy people they're fucking irritating if you're happy you're a fucking piece of shit yeah what's there to be happy about you're gonna fucking die in a few depression wars raging everywhere you're really gonna walk around with a smile in your face and this economy well you know it's really good to do depression with your girl because when you get through it and it wears off it's like you get to really appreciate how good how good you have it when you're getting along great Because when you take depression, it's really like going through, like, one of those life -changing experiences on weird African drugs that make you, like, almost die.

[25] You know, they have a bunch of those crazy drugs that they give, like, jungle drugs where you almost die.

[26] It's not quite a psychedelic experience.

[27] It's almost like a nude death experience.

[28] Like, they literally almost kill you.

[29] Pretty cool.

[30] And you're supposed to, like, learn something about yourself through this intense and horrible poisoning.

[31] I think that they're called ordeal poisons.

[32] That's the actual technical term.

[33] And they operate very similar to psychedelics in the way that they humble you.

[34] I mean, because it really brings you to the brink of death and your emotions are just blaring, your fears are blaring, your insecurities.

[35] And when, you know, I think you're forced to examine your life in a very deep and realistic way in any real true near tragic situation, right?

[36] Oh, yeah.

[37] So I think you take these.

[38] ordeal poisons and you just go through the ordeal of almost fucking dying and you learn a little bit about yourself but god damn it that's the hard way to do it that is the hard way to do it but for a lot of people that's the only way to do it yeah they don't have enough they live in a psychedelic free environment they can't get it to them they don't have the means to get it to them yeah and sometimes even i mean no people will take psychedelics and still be douchebags totally you know that guy we were talking about before a show yeah yeah there's a lot of them out there They're like, it's almost like by taking it, it allows you to be a twat because you've had the experience and you're allowed to like stick it in someone else's face that hasn't had the experience of their children or they're a moron.

[39] Like, that's, that's crazy.

[40] Well, you know, you're not better for having an experience.

[41] You're just more experienced.

[42] You know, what's better is your overall impact on human beings.

[43] And if just so you've accumulated some extra information so you feel it's okay to be cunty, well, that's not better at all.

[44] You've just moved your energy into a different direction.

[45] You're not better.

[46] Right.

[47] You're still being a twat.

[48] Well, you're still differentiating.

[49] Yeah.

[50] I mean, that's the, in the Bhagavagata, it sort of talks about, like, signs of people who've gained real realization.

[51] And one of the signs is that they don't differentiate between anything.

[52] It's all, they see it is all an expansion of the same.

[53] same original force.

[54] They don't see it anymore as like, this person's rich, this is person more.

[55] This person's good.

[56] This person's bad.

[57] It's all just different sides and angles of this superstructure that existed forever.

[58] That's so hard to think that way.

[59] It's so hard to separate yourself from, you know, from you and your needs and your ideas of you, what you want, what you want to accomplish or whatever you associate with you.

[60] And the idea that you're a part of a whole well you can intellectually imagine it but really being in that state the only time i've ever truly been in that state was uh when i had taken a huge dose of lSD and was out in the desert and i remember just having that fading away merging thing where you no longer anything you're just something you're you're everything you just merge into it all and i don't know how you would really function in that state i don't really know what you would be like in the world if you if didn't if that lasted longer than the amount of time you know an acid trip is or a few hours but they do say that through meditation and through um strict yogic disciplines you can hit that place permanently you know and somehow that that place is nirvana or paradise it's a beautiful way to be all the time but i don't know i've you know i've only heard stories about people like that descriptions of people like he was a corpse that the universe spoke through is one great description of wow you know where the the ego of the person was dead they're just gone but that guy probably boring as fuck to hang out with that's the problem you know part of what's cool about being a human being is being around people that have some flavor yeah hell yeah and you know you see some of these people and they do seem to have flavor So, you know, I don't know.

[61] The problem with talking about the holy men of the world, the great holy men of the world, is that I've never met one.

[62] It's like, I've met some wannabe gurus.

[63] I've met quite a few wannabe gurus.

[64] And some of them, you know, they shock me with their humorlessness.

[65] You know what, though, dude?

[66] I did do a video chat with Ram Dass.

[67] Yeah, you said that was amazing.

[68] And that guy was fucking awesome.

[69] And it lit up my whole apartment.

[70] And it was just you and him?

[71] Yeah, it was no. It was me, him, and Natasha.

[72] Wow.

[73] Yeah.

[74] And how did you arrange this?

[75] Well, on his website, you can still do it.

[76] It's this thing called Heart to Hearts where you can like, I know you can talk to him on Sunday.

[77] Wow.

[78] And you just go to the website and sign up.

[79] I couldn't believe it either.

[80] I thought it was, there was no way it was going to work where I thought they were going to like try to ask for money for me or something.

[81] But I signed up for it.

[82] Sunday, my phone rang.

[83] Duncan, it's wrong.

[84] Holy shit.

[85] Yeah.

[86] And then suddenly I'm like on this.

[87] video screen with Rondas and he was glowing he was like he's an old dude now but he's it was like exactly the same energy that my friends eight year old kids have it was just this radiant childlike authentic energy it wasn't phony it wasn't bullshit wow we talked for a little while he told me um this chant that he's been doing lately over and over again where he says i am loving awareness I am loving awareness.

[88] I am loving awareness.

[89] It's a chant to just sort of, I don't know, shift your vibe.

[90] And then that was it.

[91] Said goodbye.

[92] That was it.

[93] They didn't ask for any money.

[94] They didn't want anything.

[95] It was just a...

[96] Wow.

[97] You know, yeah, it was just like service.

[98] That's what it's...

[99] That's fascinating.

[100] Yeah, it's like, we look at him and, you know, people who are psychedelic enthusiasts, you know, you look at someone like him and you go, there's a guy.

[101] He made it through.

[102] Yes.

[103] He made it through.

[104] he really grabbed it.

[105] Yeah.

[106] He really grabbed the whole whole thing, and it made him something different.

[107] It made him what he is at the heart of the trip.

[108] That's right, man. Well, he, because what happened is he went into that state, and instead of going into that state and leaving, and then that's it, it was a novel experience, he went into that state and said, I want to be in this state permanently.

[109] What the fuck is this?

[110] Because he had, you know, he's a trained psychologist, and he's like, we don't know what this is.

[111] we don't have any maps for this we don't know what the fuck this psychedelic experience is at all so he was trying to when he went to India he was trying to see if this was a state that you could permanently reside in he wanted to stay high forever that's how much he loved tripping you know when I come down quite often I'm like thank you God I'm back to you know state zero ground I'm here he was like okay let's do this forever they were fucking him and Timothy Leary were like drinking from what I was drinking sipping vials of acid sitting from LSD you know they're going so fucking deep into the experience it's so scary fearless fearless intrepid explorers but he you know he realized that you go into that place you have this contact or whatever you want to call it with some kind of either hidden interior realm or some kind of exterior realm that as humans are perceptual mechanisms.

[112] Yeah, and then that's a pretty scientific way of looking at it realistically.

[113] Hidden interior realm, even being just a conscious one, you know, a consciousness realm.

[114] You know, the fact that those ideas, they're not, why are they not available to me right now?

[115] This is, if it's all being generated interiorly, how come those ideas are not available to me right now?

[116] Do I need some intense stimulation of different regions in order to give me that information?

[117] Like, I don't know how the process works.

[118] I'm not exactly sure if other people know either.

[119] I have the weirdest fucking feeling that when you take psychedelics or when you take even marijuana, that part of what the experience is is you experiencing the intelligence of a plant.

[120] Part of it is it boosts up your own senses into this weird, crazy alien state.

[121] And that's why being high feels so like disorienting and feels like, you're almost like, not in your space anymore.

[122] Your space is connected with some other intelligence and this other intelligence is showing you different avenues of thinking.

[123] It's almost like it starts filling pores in your mind and pushing you in a certain direction until it wears off and then it wears off and it's ailing into your system so your body gets rid of it eventually and then it's gone.

[124] It only has a certain amount of love time inside of you.

[125] But while it's inside of you it's like it's changing you.

[126] It's it's making you like super fucking sensitive it's making super aware and honest you know i mean when a lot of people say well it doesn't do it to me man just makes me paranoid well maybe that's just how you deal with stress you know it very because for sure you're going to get moments if you smoke too much pot where you feel paranoid there's no no getting away with that everyone's going to have that experience but what is that really well i'll tell you what it is man it's like you're being you're being aware of all the shit in the world all at once and all the shit that you were hiding in the back of your head and all the shit that's the your worst nightmare that you're terrified that you're actually manifesting because you think about it all the time yeah and when you smoke pot all that shit comes to life and on top of that you're just disoriented you it's like surfing it's like surfing can be great surfing can be like i watch those guys when they look like they're having a great fucking time and i go god damn surfing looks like fun yeah but you know when surfing doesn't look like fun when that wave comes over your fucking head and smashes you into the rocks and pulverizes your bones with a million pounds of pressure and you can't get to the surface.

[127] Well, that's surfing too.

[128] Yeah, psychedelics will definitely roll your ass.

[129] You don't know what you're fucking doing.

[130] Especially if you fight it.

[131] You try to fight it.

[132] The worst.

[133] Yeah, there's people that are fighting reality every day and they often have like sort of a fake map of the world that they've developed, in their head, and that's how they navigate.

[134] They navigate through this fake map of the world.

[135] But a lot of the little segments in their mind that they have associated with certain things and details, and a lot of it is delusional because you're trying to protect yourself from your own failures.

[136] You know what I mean?

[137] Like, especially with men, I think.

[138] You know, guys have these fucked -up egos that are designed to make sure that you have a will to survive when a cheetah attacks or fight off another tribe so that your DNA stays intact.

[139] Well, that world is a fucking creepy thing, just running around through your vans.

[140] Yeah.

[141] What we're talking about here is what they called set and setting, which is like when you're going to take a psychedelic, what's your mind state?

[142] What's your emotional state when you take the psychedelic?

[143] And if you go back to the idea that what's his name, John Mark Allegro?

[144] What's his name?

[145] Yeah, John Marco Allegro.

[146] Yeah, John Marco Allegro talking about how early Christianity was a mushroom cult.

[147] And you go back and you look at the idea of when you're going to take communion or when you go to pray or when you go to the sacred place, you're supposed to forgive your brothers and your sisters.

[148] So the idea is before you go into a psychedelic state, you need to, as much as you can, work out the shit that you're avoiding.

[149] Because when you go into that psychedelic state, anything that you're trying to skip around, any of those aspects of your personality that need to be leveled or need to be balanced are going to spring out at you in a million different ways that are really intense and if you're not prepared for that then you'll have the bad trip and the bad trip is you hallucinate you can see they'll see crazy shit you'll look in the walls and see skulls why are you seeing skulls you know why are you seeing bubbling skulls in the wall when you're seeing bubbling skulls because that's what you're projecting from inside of you because you're fucking scared of death you're scared to die you're terrified of letting go.

[150] You don't want to, you don't want to, your body doesn't want to die.

[151] And until you deal with that initial thing, then all these other neuroses will spring up after that, you know, your avoidance of reality, all the different weird ways that you're trying to avoid reality, which is essentially just trying to avoid coming to the ground, to the terrain that you're on.

[152] And the terrain that we're all on is fucking intense.

[153] We're on a terrain where we are going to go extinct.

[154] And, you know, who knows, depending on how old you are, You know, but depending on how much technology advances, between like 70 and 10 years, two years, one year.

[155] That's an intense realm to exist on.

[156] You know, there's a situation right now in Fukushima, you know, the whole thing with the fourth reactor.

[157] They're terrified that if any seismic event occurs, like it's a zero chance of surviving a seismic event.

[158] And that they would have another blown reactor.

[159] and we were talking about it on the podcast and someone made a clip of it and put it on this website where it's like and people are like discussing this like this is a serious issue one of the things that I'm saying was that we're going to have spots in this world because of nuclear power where for hundreds of thousands of years it's going to be dead wastelands yeah dead and there's a bunch of them and there's a bunch more plants out there that could make a bunch more spot dead and this has just been less than 100 years we've been doing this we've already got three giant spots where you can't go to anymore.

[160] Yeah, and have you seen, like, the places where they store the nuclear rods?

[161] They, like, have special places, like, caves in that they put it in.

[162] And I believe that they've, on the signs around the place, they actually have, like, skulls and shit.

[163] They have things, so in case society collapses, and everyone forgets, and thousands of years past, you go wandering up to that place, and there's this fucking skull.

[164] And you're, like, you just recognize, okay, this is a cursed place.

[165] This is the, it's nuclear power.

[166] is one of the dumbest, most brilliant ideas ever.

[167] It's so dumb and so brilliant at the same time.

[168] Humans have a lot of hubris, you know?

[169] Yeah.

[170] This is a ridiculous one, though.

[171] I mean, we're fucking with something that there is no technology to clean it.

[172] There's no technology to turn it into anything other than toxic, lethal, horrible, killing shit.

[173] Yeah, it sucks, man. It's like the...

[174] It's ridiculous.

[175] The exuberance of...

[176] when that stuff initially came out and people thought that they discovered endless fuel sources, that exuberance, like, was everywhere.

[177] It seemed like a real, it really seemed like the most beautiful, it seemed like we were injuring into utopia, I think, for a while.

[178] But it's so, it's, you know, the joke I was doing in my act about it was that did anybody ask them, like, what happens when the power goes off?

[179] Somebody was like, dude, you're being negative.

[180] Right.

[181] Like, there had to be like some sort of a stupid argument where no one considered, the possibility that the power could go off.

[182] You could lose both backup generators.

[183] You have no other way of fixing this.

[184] He just built a sun.

[185] You built a little tiny sun, and you're just going to leave it there.

[186] Like, that's insane.

[187] Well, yeah, I mean...

[188] And you can't cool it off.

[189] You can't cool it off.

[190] It's a demon.

[191] Basically, you've summoned a demon that you can't send back.

[192] That is a demon.

[193] It is.

[194] It really truly is.

[195] Like, you have summoned a demon when you have nuclear power.

[196] If you really stop and think about that, if there was some...

[197] If a demon existed and in his, very presence.

[198] He was poisoning the environment.

[199] No plants could grow.

[200] I mean, that is a demon by definition.

[201] Anyone that gets near him dies, a horrible, twisted death.

[202] That's a demon.

[203] Yeah.

[204] This is something people don't understand with like a cult talk where people talk about demons like summoning demons and summoning spirits.

[205] They take that shit literally.

[206] So they hear someone saying, you know, I'll invoke these things to summon a demon.

[207] And so then a lot of great movies have been made after that, the literal interpretation of that.

[208] But every fucking day, man, not just on the grand scale without summoning nuclear power but in little ways people fucking summon demons into their life all the time with no thought of how to get rid of it.

[209] Every time, you know, like when people shoot heroin, that's summoning a fucking demon.

[210] Like you've been told by every single other like necromancer who summon that demon, that shit will fuck you up.

[211] But people who do heroin and they always start off with like, you know what, I'm just going to do it once.

[212] Just want to see what it feels like.

[213] Everyone does And then you fucking end up under a fucking bridge with three cocks in your mouth.

[214] You know what I mean?

[215] All from summoning this one stupid fucking demon that has just destroyed so many people.

[216] And heroin, demon's a great word for heroin, because it offers you something.

[217] Because so many people, they say, oh, yeah, fucking Jimmy Hendrix love this stuff.

[218] Elite Smith, listen to how beautiful his music is.

[219] You can go on and on about the people who shot heroin and, like, beautiful stuff so there is an exchange I mean doesn't that kind of tickle around in your head Lenny Bruce was blasting the shit you know doesn't it kind of tickle around you're like what the what what is that maybe there is a little land like you rise up and see this landscape that you can't see from the psychedelic perspective and maybe it's uh it doesn't seem to be worth it whatever it is all I look at it is like what makes you happy and I don't I don't see people taking heroin and getting super happy from it everyone that I've known that did heroin, the come down from it was unbelievably bad, like bone jarring.

[220] They would say your bones would ache.

[221] That's how they would describe it.

[222] Terrible drug.

[223] You never see any, like, marathon runners who are, like, shooting.

[224] I had a friend who, he was a good buddy of mine that lived in New York, and he came to visit me. And I didn't know when he was coming to visit me that he was trying to kick heroin, and that he was going to do is just come and hang out with me at my house in California and kick heroin with me. so that's i did not know i didn't i didn't know how bad he had it i hadn't seen him in a couple of years so he he flew out and the dude was just in bed sick for like six seven days he couldn't go anywhere man i would get him food and shit and he he couldn't go anywhere he came with me to work one day i was on news radio he came and just sat around the set but he couldn't he couldn't move around man the dude was uh he was jacked.

[225] It's amazing to see that, isn't it?

[226] It's amazing to see the traps that we set for ourselves in the world that are completely avoidable.

[227] But for some reason, we always set these traps and then they smash on us and we go through this awful period.

[228] And then if you're lucky, you get out on the other side.

[229] That kind of goes back to what you were talking about, this idea of like having that near -death experience or having this awful catastrophe happen in your life.

[230] If you handle it the right way, you can become a million times strong.

[231] and better from that catastrophe.

[232] People don't realize that.

[233] So they're always putting off what could essentially be the thing that makes them happier than they've ever been in their life.

[234] Well, that's kind of a weird way of looking at it.

[235] I mean, you could possibly be happy because of a catastrophe, or it could be horrible.

[236] You could lose someone you love.

[237] You know, I don't think all catastrophes will necessarily lead to great revelations.

[238] But I think occasionally it can give you an enhanced perspective.

[239] something that happens to you.

[240] I mean, the most interesting people that we all know are people that have gone through a lot of shit in their life.

[241] Yes.

[242] A lot of crazy experiences.

[243] You know, those, the having to overcome terrible things in places is sort of what makes them exceptional.

[244] That's right, man. But there's a certain group of people who like to live pretending that catastrophes will never happen to them.

[245] Right.

[246] This is a ridiculous way to live.

[247] Yeah, the people that are overweight.

[248] smoking every day and I have a friend who he's I guess he's like 60 and uh he he smokes two packs a day and he'll tell you like he's always like making excuses like they've even said now that uh it's all either you have the gene or you do not so there's a lot of people that will smoke cigarettes and never I'm in smoking cigarettes for 40 years I am I did obviously I don't have the gene or I don't have cancer I went to the doctor my doctor says you look great you look great the doctor's looking at you and he's like you smoke how much a day and you're like two packs and he's like you look great you look great get the fuck out of here what is he going to do to someone who's fucking intentionally poisoning themselves all day you're intentionally poisoning yourself all day not even just one pack you glutton you glutton nicotine vampire two packs a day all day of course your doctor's going to tell you look great you look great get the fuck out of here I'm going to see you soon though bitch you're going to be back soon you're going to be back for some crazy shit I'm calling my uncle up right you know my uncle's an oncologist and We've got our eye on you.

[249] That's amazing.

[250] Yeah.

[251] Yeah, that's incredible.

[252] I never thought of what a moneymaker, smokers are for doctors.

[253] Well, of course.

[254] I mean, if you're a doctor, you want your people, well, if you're a real doctor, and it's obviously people that don't operate for money, you know, they operate because they love being an excellent surgeon or an excellent doctor.

[255] And, you know, we're not disparaging the medical profession at all.

[256] Of course.

[257] But if you were like some money grubbing crazy doctor, but there are a few of those.

[258] out there right yeah there's ever down then there is some money grubbing like michael jackson's doctor dude that fucking crazy guy i have i'll show you man i've got fucking fillings in my mouth who that don't need to be there because my dentist uh as it turns out was giving unnecessary feelings oh my god so i've got like i've got fucking what a monster when i was the kid i just thought i was i just thought i i naturally was always getting cavities oh my god you know what i mean i was I was always getting...

[259] What a monster.

[260] I was getting blasted with fucking leather.

[261] This guy's ruining kids' teeth, drilling in the kid's teeth, and making money.

[262] I hope he's in jail.

[263] Is he in jail?

[264] I don't know what happened to him when that scandal hit.

[265] That's not just fraud.

[266] I would beat the fuck out if you drill holes in my kid's head that didn't need to be there.

[267] Because you're trying to make money.

[268] Like that fucking judge.

[269] Oh my God.

[270] I would want to beat the fuck out of that dentist.

[271] Wouldn't it be great to mash his fucking head?

[272] Can you imagine anybody that would do that to a little kid?

[273] Yeah.

[274] Just to make some money?

[275] Sure.

[276] That's a big, this is something that, this is a facet of reality.

[277] That's so scary.

[278] I can't imagine.

[279] Like, what mind state do you have to be in?

[280] Especially your fucking dentist, you're already making great money.

[281] Like, why do you need the extra cavity dough?

[282] Exactly.

[283] What, I mean, how, Jesus Christ, how can you justify that?

[284] That would make, I would never sleep.

[285] I would have to, I would have to find that guy in prison.

[286] I might get arrested just so I can go to prison with him and find out what prison he's at.

[287] He's fucking underground.

[288] by now that guy I mean if it was my kid you know what I'm saying I mean I would literally I would want to get arrested and put a cell near him just so I could beat the fuck out of them after he got arrested yeah well there's a lot of I just wouldn't be able to deal with it some guy drilling into your baby's head to try to make himself some extra scratch because he likes to be a big shot at a restaurant and buy a nice bottle of wine is that what's going on you're fucking asshole yeah I mean who knows but think of it the thing to me is like There's a lot of people out there who live like that.

[289] Sure.

[290] There's a lot of people out there that are sociopaths.

[291] I mean, you've seen the studies.

[292] There's been, you know, I believe it was Time Magazine or someone recently had some article about a new book that's out.

[293] That was something like one in a hundred.

[294] One of a hundred people are just fucking sociopaths.

[295] Remember the guy who recently went rampaging through that kids camp?

[296] Was it in, where was it?

[297] Norway?

[298] Was it Norway?

[299] He went Norway.

[300] Norway.

[301] He went rampaging through that kid.

[302] camp just killing fucking kids and over there they don't they're not like the united states they don't have a death penalty so like they're giving this guy a fair trial and they made a big show of the fact that we're going to do this there's not going to be some kind of crazy visceral response to this and so in the trial the guy uh apparently is going into a detailed account of how we went walking through this camp and shot kids who were hiding from him and shot kids and how they tried to run and how he found some of them by thinking where he would hide if he was one of these kids and he's in joint he's getting off on it because he's a sociopath it feels good for him to tell the story so in these situations sometimes i think has pacifism gone too far in this situation the guy clearly shot a bunch of kids the guy why do we need to discover if his true motivation or what his real crime was we know what the crime was.

[303] There's a bunch of dead kids because this guy went rampaging through.

[304] Sometimes, don't you think you can go too far on the side of 100 %?

[305] Yeah, well, look at the Dalai Lama, man. Dalai Lama seems like a great guy, but he's never gotten a blowjob in his life.

[306] That's a stupid way to live.

[307] We don't know that.

[308] He says he doesn't have sex.

[309] Oh, he does?

[310] Yeah.

[311] He says he doesn't have relations.

[312] He says like he sees a woman he's attracted to her, but he realizes too much work.

[313] It's just you know, he laughs about it.

[314] But that's silly.

[315] That's silly.

[316] You're missing a big chunk of life.

[317] I think he's humped.

[318] I think he's got some pussy.

[319] Yeah.

[320] Well, I would hope so.

[321] I wouldn't hate him for it.

[322] I think it would be a good thing.

[323] I would love him for it.

[324] But he's a monk.

[325] Isn't he?

[326] Yeah, but I mean...

[327] Isn't that like part of the whole thing?

[328] It's the celibacy, the idea that, you know, you're beyond the needs of the flesh?

[329] Yeah, there's like the...

[330] I mean, I don't...

[331] Honestly, I've heard with Tibetan Buddhism that there's some tantric sex that happens in there and we should probably Google this, right?

[332] Yeah, please do, because that's...

[333] Yeah, is the Dalai Lama.

[334] Is the Dalai Lama celibate?

[335] Salibate.

[336] I'd love to know that.

[337] Yeah, it seems like an interesting question.

[338] This keyword sucks a fat dick.

[339] I mean, I guess that I understand why monks say to be celibate.

[340] If it's not an ethical decision, I understand, like, the complication that can come from fucking people is ridiculous.

[341] Spectacular.

[342] Spectacular.

[343] It's conflagrations.

[344] Like, lifelong conflagration.

[345] you can bring up being into life.

[346] Yeah, you can.

[347] It's a really pain.

[348] It's a pain in the ass.

[349] Yeah, it's a pain in the fucking ass, man. He's not only supposed to be a virgin, yeah.

[350] He's a virgin.

[351] Yeah.

[352] Well, there you go, ladies.

[353] The Dalai Lama's a virgin.

[354] Dude, have you heard about that glue in India that you blast into your balls to clog up your seminal scene?

[355] Yeah, you sent it to me. Yeah.

[356] Is that what it is?

[357] It's load glue?

[358] Load glue.

[359] It's the new male birth control.

[360] that apparently it's not as permanent as getting a vasectomy.

[361] It lasts between five and ten years, but they essentially just put airplane glue or some kind of gel into your...

[362] They just glue you up.

[363] So you can't...

[364] Your jizz doesn't have the fucking worms in anymore.

[365] That's sad.

[366] You're poisoning your loads.

[367] How could that possibly be good?

[368] You should poison loads.

[369] I bet your loads smell like fucking...

[370] You're going to make zombie babies.

[371] Your loads probably smell like rubber cement.

[372] Could you imagine if that was like the beginning of the next fucking 28 days later type movie?

[373] It turns out that you shoot some shit into your loads, but it makes it zombie babies that eat their way out of your pussy.

[374] Oh, yeah, that's fucking great.

[375] That's a great harm movie, man. Bites the doctor, and a hand a doctor becomes a zombie, zombie doctor fucking furiously attacks all the nurses.

[376] They all stabbing each other.

[377] They come into a fucking puddle, slippery of blood, a bunch of zombie fucking doctors biting each other, and shit.

[378] All from one fucking zombie baby.

[379] All from one zombie baby from one zombie load that was created by this crazy drug.

[380] An Indian doctor created.

[381] Just a tornado of infection spreads through the nation from this one hot point.

[382] We're calling Dustin Hoffman in their fucking spacesuit.

[383] But you know what?

[384] He knows that he just had that procedure down to his balls and he like shot a load into his girlfriend and she's pregnant.

[385] So like the suspense through the movie is wondering if his girlfriend He's got a zombie baby and her This is a great movie It's a great movie Directors out there Let's get this made Whoever made troll hunter Please contact us Troll Hunter Troll Hunter It's great It's really fun man I know I love that movie It's a fun movie It was the one the foreign one right The one in subtitles Oh wait no I thought you were talking about The worst movie ever made No this is actually not that bad It's about a guy who goes and hunts trolls There's like real live trolls the woods it's a oh troll hunter's yeah yeah it's really good it's really fun and it's shot like found footage yes exactly yeah oh troll hunter's the best yeah that was really good it's a fun movie more movies like that yeah yeah I love stupid movies man like I'm so looking forward to the Avengers so much so that I feel like I'm getting away with something by being able to watch it you know like I'm 44 years old at a certain point in time I'm supposed to be past that I'm supposed to be you know interested in mature things but I'm not I want to watch the Hulk fuck somebody up.

[386] Let me tell you something, man. That fucking idea of maturity or how you're supposed to act at some certain age, what the fuck is that idea?

[387] Because the way you're supposed to act is so boring.

[388] Like, it's basically saying, just act like a, act like you're just a dying old piece of shit.

[389] You don't like fucking super insane special effects anymore.

[390] You certainly don't like video games.

[391] My kids with their music these days.

[392] You go to bed at 10.

[393] You know, like, fuck that.

[394] Who's idea was that anyway?

[395] That was just like a control freak, boring guys.

[396] Like, this is how an adult tax.

[397] Yeah, well, it gets a certain point in time when you compromise your thinking every day, so much so for work.

[398] You know, if you have to go in and every day you've got to sell vacuum cleaners and you're a dude, I guarantee you there's some days where you don't want to go in and sell fucking vacuum cleaners.

[399] You don't want to not swear all day.

[400] You don't want to wear a tie.

[401] But you got it.

[402] That's part of the job.

[403] And so one of the ways to sort of keep that going where you're extreme, that make the whole rest of your life less extreme as well.

[404] No more fun shit.

[405] You need a sensible car.

[406] You can't drive a Mustang.

[407] You know, you need to stop getting drunk on the weekends.

[408] You've got a job.

[409] You've got to become SFW.

[410] Safe for work.

[411] Safe for work.

[412] Yeah, and that's why they're allowed to drug test you.

[413] That's one of the most incredible things that we've let happen in this country.

[414] Employers are allowed to drug test their employees.

[415] That's insane.

[416] The The idea that you pay for a person's work, you don't own their flesh.

[417] You don't own them as a human being.

[418] And especially when we're talking about stuff like medical marijuana, which is actually supposed to be legal in California, there's a lot of places where you still can't get a medical marijuana prescription.

[419] You can't get an exemption and work for a lot of different companies.

[420] Yep.

[421] They won't have it.

[422] They won't hire you.

[423] They don't want any potheads.

[424] Yeah, it's a real problem because with corporations, I just learned this word, and I really fucking love it.

[425] It's called diffusion of responsibility, which is the idea that in corporations, the responsibility gets so many people make decisions on things that know one person's to blame, right?

[426] So you know in the corporation, somewhere in the corporation, not everyone's anti -marijuana, just a couple of cunts.

[427] And you don't know who they are, but they got that in there.

[428] You know, at some meeting, they just got it in where other people didn't agree with them and they didn't speak up.

[429] That's what's annoying about it.

[430] You know that this is coming from just a few dip shits.

[431] The majority of people have no problem with it.

[432] Fucking Nancy Pelosi.

[433] Did you see she came out against Obama?

[434] Did you see that shit?

[435] What'd she do?

[436] She pointed out the fact that Obama's busted more dispensaries than Bush did.

[437] Wow.

[438] Because she's pro -medical marijuana, and she talked about all the help, how many people actually helps, and like, what the fuck is Obama doing?

[439] Why is he arresting all these people when we voted on it, you know?

[440] diffusion of responsibility is another place that's used that's in rape oh yeah right where one person is much more likely to be able to rape another person when there's a big group of people around because nobody knows who should act first and everybody feels like it's not their responsibility because there's so many people you always got to act first that's the rule always act first if you see someone on the fucking street who doesn't look like they're doing okay stop and ask them if they're okay If you see somebody's car is fucked up on the side of the road, not a flat.

[441] What if it's the first zombie?

[442] What if you go, are you okay?

[443] And that fucking bitch leans over and bites your arm in half and blood screaming.

[444] You're screaming as you're driving to a hospital, you turn into a zombie and crash into a tree.

[445] Look, man, there's like a 90 % chance if you see someone on the street and try to help them that they're probably the first zombie.

[446] It could happen.

[447] But it could be the other 10%.

[448] Hey, man, look, I'm not taking any chances when the zombie apocalypse hits.

[449] want to be fucking patient zero that's what i'm saying what if you see a rape happening and you try to stop it and it was just a dude trying to rape a zombie or a zombie trying to rape a dude that would be a lot scarier because if like raping zombies that's the next step if a dude was raping a zombie he's an idiot why would you want to rape a zombie that's the next evolution of zombies because we made him run now that'll be raped up it's be yeah that's like yeah being an ultimate fighting champion that's not badass enough you need to be a zombie raper have you ever raped a And the thing about raping a zombie is they'll fight hard, but no one cares if you beat the shit out of them.

[450] You could, like, let zombies loose in the field, and you could just go beat the shit out of them.

[451] No, dude, this is a sketch.

[452] I actually wrote this a sketch like this.

[453] The problem is zombies can infect you, right?

[454] Yes.

[455] How's that work?

[456] That doesn't make any sense.

[457] Only 28 days later, zombies can infect you.

[458] Well, no. There's different explanations, and the Walking Dead's got a really fucking good one that I, it's a little good spoil a lot of shit to say it.

[459] but there's a lot of different explanations for it that's pretty cool the way that the creators of these stories come up with what it is.

[460] I mean, there's no rule for it.

[461] It could be anything.

[462] But in the Walking Dead, it's a biological thing where it infects people.

[463] But there's movies where they come out of the ground.

[464] So obviously that's not what's up with those.

[465] No, that's a different ones.

[466] That's like, I mean, which ones do they come out of the ground?

[467] That's Return of the Living Dead.

[468] Yeah, that kind of shit.

[469] One of my favorite fucking genius.

[470] Fucking genius, goddamn movie.

[471] You know why it was great Because the zombies could fucking talk So remember they had that lady strapped to the table Spoiler alert They had that lady strapped to the table It was like a half lady, remember that?

[472] And they're like, they asked her Because no one's asked the zombie They asked her, why do you eat brains?

[473] Remember that?

[474] Yeah.

[475] She's like, It stops the pain of death Oh my God Because we never get to really interview a zombie I remember that now.

[476] That's right.

[477] They would call out brains.

[478] Oh, that was such a good thing.

[479] Dude, that was a great.

[480] I mean, I was confusing that with Night of the Living Dead.

[481] But Return of the Living Dead is actually better.

[482] Return of the Living Dead, they pop out of graves.

[483] Right of the Living Dead, as I recall, we sit at the opening of Night of the Living Dead.

[484] Remember, it's in the graveyard, and he's trying to scare his girlfriend.

[485] And she's like, who's that man walking back there?

[486] And there's some dude kind of walking far away.

[487] This is why zombies couldn't walk fast.

[488] Right.

[489] And so he just kind of ambles up to the guy and, like, it throws him down.

[490] The guy hits his head on a gravestone, and then she's, like, driving away in terror.

[491] But we never know if that zombie emerged from a coffin.

[492] I think that was somebody who is, like, who, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think, first of all, you're not going to get out of a fucking coffin if you're a zombie.

[493] Zombies are already weak.

[494] Are they weak?

[495] Well, they all vary.

[496] Neither of the living dead zombies, weak.

[497] Slow, lumbering, purely retarded.

[498] So if you were, like, a really good kickboxer, you could probably, like, keep a lot of them off of you.

[499] Easily.

[500] Right.

[501] You break their body, a lot of leg kicks.

[502] A simple moat.

[503] A simple moat would fix most of the...

[504] But if they bite you, you're fucked, right?

[505] You're a zombie.

[506] You're a zombie now.

[507] If you get bitten by a zombie, you're a zombie.

[508] Is that Night of the Living Dead as well?

[509] That's Night of Living Dead.

[510] Can you...

[511] Return of the Living Dead.

[512] I think all of them share the idea that if you get bitten by one, you turn into one.

[513] Huh.

[514] I thought, hmm.

[515] I thought you had to die In some of them And then you come back as a zombie Well I think in all of them In all of them Not in 20 days later Remember you just one bite And you're fucked Remember when that chick hatcheted her boyfriend She macheted him And he's like It's just a scratch And she just fuck you And just pooch With a fucking machete She macheted him in the kitchen That was radical Remember that?

[516] That was such a good That was a great fucking movie That's the greatest zombie movie Of all time 28 days later In my opinion is the greatest because it's the most original.

[517] The whole scene when the guy wakes up and he doesn't know what the fuck is going on, that's really the same scene that the Walking Dead is used.

[518] They've used the same sort of theme.

[519] This guy wakes up in the hospital and he doesn't realize that the world is turned to a fucking zombie shithole.

[520] Right.

[521] comics.

[522] So whichever came first.

[523] Well, let's find out.

[524] Walking Dead comics.

[525] Let's find out here.

[526] The best Walking Dead Comics.

[527] Buy them if you haven't.

[528] They're so fucking good.

[529] How many years do you think they've been around for?

[530] I don't know, but for a long time, there's a lot of them.

[531] And it's a show is good.

[532] I love the show.

[533] The show gets a little too soap opera.

[534] Like, but the fucking comics are just brutal and just if you haven't downloaded them to your iPad and buy them because they're fucking awesome.

[535] Let's say Wikipedia.

[536] That's cool that we can figure this out.

[537] Yeah, we live in a fucking beautiful time, man. Some guy said something really recently.

[538] I'll go look at it after I figure this out.

[539] 2003 is what?

[540] Is first issue of the Walking Dead comics.

[541] So now, let's look up Return the Living Dead.

[542] No. No?

[543] 28 days later.

[544] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[545] Sorry.

[546] 28.

[547] I think that was earlier.

[548] I'm pretty sure, but I'm just guessing.

[549] Well, let's see, 2002.

[550] Ooh.

[551] It's earlier.

[552] Son of a bitch.

[553] Yeah.

[554] Well, that's so close that it might have been parallel thinking.

[555] Yeah.

[556] You know, who knows?

[557] These guys, first of all, it's kind of like if you were going to make a zombie movie about a big apocalypse, wouldn't a cool way to do it to be wake up and, I mean, everybody's afraid you wake up and you're going to get up in the morning.

[558] And nuclear bombs had already dropped.

[559] You know what else it serves?

[560] What purpose it serves?

[561] you don't have to explain how it happened.

[562] Yeah.

[563] Because you started at the beginning of the guy waking up, so you don't really have to go into the whole shit preceding it.

[564] Which, by the way, I fucking love.

[565] Dawn of the Dead, oh, remember Dawn of the Dead in the fucking news studio?

[566] Remember that?

[567] It's all falling apart.

[568] It's just starting to fall the fuck apart, and people are trying to, like, rationalize what's happening, and SWAT teams are going in and just blowing the shit out of people, and all of society's collapsing.

[569] I love that.

[570] I like starting out.

[571] the collapse of society and then going into the post apocalyptic state i hate movies that are the lead up to the disaster where like 80 % of the movie is like the lead up and then you just get 20 % of apocalypse i like fucking 90 % apocalypse you know what's a really cool movie it's weird it's very original it's called pontie pool it's uh i think it's a canadian movie and it's about um these people that are in um they're they're in a radio studio studio the whole show takes place.

[572] The whole movie takes place in like essentially one scene.

[573] It's one area.

[574] It's all in this radio studio.

[575] They're trapped in there while this zombie apocalypse is raging to their town.

[576] Yeah.

[577] It's pretty fucking cool.

[578] That's fucking cool, man. Yeah, and they're the people that were working with them become infected and they're trapped in the sound booth.

[579] They realize that these things are blind, what they can hear you, and they can smell you, and they're like trying to get at them through the glass.

[580] It's pretty fucking cool, man. It's like a real low budget sort of a movie, but I found it to be pretty original.

[581] Dude.

[582] If you know what I'm saying, it's like one of those, you want to watch something creepy?

[583] Let's watch something creepy nights.

[584] Yeah, that's, if you've seen The Road or read The Road?

[585] Dude, that's the Hugo Vigo Morgan.

[586] I watched that up until the point when he was teaching his son how to shoot himself with the mouth.

[587] And I was like, check please.

[588] I think the author of that book was Kormack McCarthy, I think.

[589] I can't read the name.

[590] The book was insane.

[591] But that fucking movie, man to me that really captured what it's going to look like if it all i'm sure flames that's what it fucking looks like just yeah want people just desperately trying to find food because even the walking dead like they're trying to find food but somehow like they always end i guess they're on a farm and part of it they end up with some pretty nice home -cooked meals and people you know people are like people have like setups where they have big fences and yeah and they look crossbows they look healthy they've been taking vitamins and going on a fucking treadmill because they have because they're actors but the fucking the road the road man nobody looks good it looks like they told nobody to eat for like days before you shoot pale and stressed out yeah man this fucking that would be the way to do it too if you were going to be one of those method guys and those Gary Oldman motherfuckers I bet he would not eat for a couple days yeah I mean you don't eat and you drink a lot of fucking coffee and you lose a lot of sleep and you get to a nice fatigue state of stress because that's what it is that's what it's going to be like man it's going to be fucking pure stress you're probably going to die you're probably going to get arrested you're probably going to watch a friend die you're probably going to watch your girlfriend get raped by some fucking super powerful dudes who are just like fuck it and it's not going to be like the criminals that you see on mad max they're going to be dumber than those it's just going to be dumb people who have power just dumb people with a gun that's going to be the problem when the fucking grid shuts down.

[592] Dumb people with guns.

[593] And it is entirely within the realm of possibility.

[594] It's ignored, but it's entirely within the realm of possibility.

[595] This is so fragile.

[596] We have a house made of toothpicks and tissue paper, and it's on the edge of a cliff.

[597] In relationship to how our civilization is set up and structured for longevity in this incredibly volatile galaxy, and it's incredibly volatile solar system just the planet itself all the natural shit that can go down and on top of it all the dumb fucking shit that we're doing like nuclear power let me tell you something dude people are fucking assholes Do you want to fucking prove for that?

[598] Go check out the dark ages.

[599] Go look at what the fucking Catholic Church did to our species.

[600] This is where it gets crazy about the Catholic Church, dude.

[601] The Catholic Church molested our species when they were in their teens.

[602] When our species was just fucking getting shit going, the Catholic Church came in and just started torching people, burning people, killing people, left and right, wiping out entire civilizations, all in the name of Jesus.

[603] Jesus.

[604] And all of this from an interpretation of the fucking New Testament, which is Paulian theology from a guy who never met Christ, and some people speculate the real disciples thought he was a liar.

[605] Called him a liar.

[606] Called Paul a liar, which is why when you look at the epistles from Paul, a lot of times he's defending himself, he's like, I'm not a lot.

[607] I mean, why would you say this to me?

[608] Because the real disciples were like, hey, dude, who the fuck are you?

[609] So he was like a late -night infomercial salesman.

[610] There you go.

[611] Exactly.

[612] And that shit got adopted by the Roman Empire because they wanted to go to war.

[613] And they just were like, yeah, let's use this.

[614] We can use this.

[615] Let's figure out a way to make love your neighbor as yourself and love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul into going into the Middle East and stealing all their gold.

[616] Let's figure out a fucking way to do how to do that.

[617] Oh, I know.

[618] Here's an idea.

[619] I know there are evans.

[620] Let's go over there and kill the motherfuckers.

[621] and the name of the guy who said, don't kill anybody.

[622] You know, I've had this, we've had this really intense series of conversations with people about conspiracy theories lately, both pro and con, like having Brian Cowan, he doesn't believe in any conspiracy theory and any bravo who believes in a lot of conspiracy theories.

[623] But the most fascinating thing to me is how many people will just blatantly dismiss conspiracy theories?

[624] Like 9 -11 is my favorite one.

[625] You cannot dismiss 9 -11 as a conspiracy.

[626] conspiracy theory because it was a conspiracy that caused 9 -11 from the enemy in the first place okay someone conspired some big event and made some human beings made planes fly in the buildings and a bunch of people died that is a fact the idea that that no one could conspire to do that is ridiculous because it had to be it had to be a conspiracy in order for it to happen in the first place It's a lot of people involved.

[627] They had to keep their mouth shut.

[628] They had to pass information through in JPEG form.

[629] They would fucking send things to each other by sending each other innocuous -looking emails with pictures in them.

[630] And then people would take those pictures and open them up in a program that would allow to see writing in between the ones and zeros of the image.

[631] Yes.

[632] How about that?

[633] Here's a thing.

[634] That's pretty dope.

[635] I always look at this shit from the perspective of like, whenever you get to be in any kind of corporation, if you go to a high enough level, you realize that people stop following the same rules that everybody just followed.

[636] Like, I can remember, I used to work at the summer camp in North Carolina called Camp Pinnacle, and I can remember, like, I went to camp there, too, as a camper, but I can remember at one point, I can remember at one point being a counselor, and then, like, the people who ran the camp came during the time when all the kids were supposed to be taking naps to my cabin.

[637] I'm like, hey, come on.

[638] And then we went out in the lake and just floated on intertubes.

[639] And I was like, fuck, this is breaking all the rules, but it's the people running the can breaking the rules.

[640] So it's totally cool.

[641] Wow.

[642] But that's a tiny, tiny, my great example.

[643] But it's the same thing all over the place up top where it's like, look, dude, don't worry about that cocaine charge.

[644] What, oh, how much do you owe in taxes?

[645] Don't worry about that.

[646] We'll take care of that, man. Well, how about when presidents leave office and then dismiss a whole bunch of people?

[647] Yeah.

[648] Like, who are these pardons?

[649] Presidents are allowed to, like, just give wide open pardons.

[650] It's like a gang of people for doing all kinds of creepy shit.

[651] Yeah, why do they get to do that, you know?

[652] That's a crazy rule.

[653] You get to bypass the whole legal system, and they have, like, a list.

[654] It's not just one person.

[655] Like, they have a personal cause.

[656] There's a guy who's unjustly accused, and I think this man needs to be pardoned.

[657] No, no, no, it's not that.

[658] There's a list.

[659] They get, like, 20 or 30 of them or something crazy.

[660] Oh, sure, man. How many do they get to pardon?

[661] I don't know, but they're...

[662] I bet it's an unlimited amount.

[663] I bet there's some fucking checks coming in, though.

[664] Because I feel like somebody's abused it recently, like maybe Clinton.

[665] How many presidents, how many pardons does the president get?

[666] Does that would it be?

[667] God, this keyboard sucks.

[668] That's crazy, though, man. That is crazy.

[669] So, yeah, I think fucking conspiracies happen because they happen in the smallest levels of society.

[670] Why wouldn't they happen in the highest levels of society?

[671] Yeah, totally.

[672] Yeah, of course, man. It's everywhere you go, man. Unless people, like, are operating under the illusion that politicians are honest or don't like presidents can pardon as many people as they want so that he could pardon everyone God damn so if you were the president like if Obama got pissed and went out of office is the last attack he could be like I'm pardoning every prisoner and every prison over the country.

[673] Yo dude sweat this President Clinton issued 456 executive clemency orders 395 pardons and 60 commutations between 93 and January 20th of 2001.

[674] That's amazing.

[675] President Bush has 991 pardons.

[676] Jimmy Carter granted amnesty to all Vietnam -era draft Dodgers.

[677] Wow.

[678] That's cool.

[679] That's pretty beautiful.

[680] So Obama, when he gets out of office, he could pardon all people in there for medical marijuana.

[681] You know who dodged the draft in Vietnam?

[682] Ted Nuget.

[683] It's kind of crazy.

[684] No shit.

[685] Because he's just like, he's such a pro -war.

[686] war guy, but there's a depiction of what he did.

[687] I don't know if it's true.

[688] But, I mean, he definitely didn't go to war.

[689] Now he's like super pro -war as he's gotten older.

[690] Pro -war is a weird stance.

[691] Well, the idea of pro -America, I mean, look, if we really were living in the Game of Thrones, you better be fucking pro -America.

[692] You know, you better be, like, down for this one team because otherwise some Dothraki hordes from the other side of the world might fucking hop on a ship and come over and jack you.

[693] That's right.

[694] It was very important back then.

[695] But as we're connected by the internet, the idea of countries is becoming less and less relevant.

[696] It's all about local government and laws, and the whole world is one big fucking connection.

[697] The whole world is one big piece.

[698] That's why all these people in the Middle East are freaking out.

[699] The real rally and cry for freedom is coming from the internet.

[700] That's how they're using Twitter and they're using Facebook to communicate with.

[701] And, you know, that's all emanating from the Internet.

[702] Well, man, I heard this thing, and I, like, I never read it.

[703] I think a teacher told me this, and I never explored it.

[704] I'm sure I'll find out now, though, but it was this idea about communism and how Karl Marx said that real communism was going to be a natural evolution of society into real communism, not something imposed, something that's just a natural, obvious result of people getting smarter and understanding the way things work.

[705] Money aids in a lot of things.

[706] what it does is it gives you an incentive to innovate it gives you an incentive to work hard it gives you something to show a score sure which a lot of people like to see if you want innovation right i'm not i'm definitely not a communist no i know you're not i'm not i'm definitely not anti money but what what what i'm starting to see um happening uh is that the more that you work in like little collectives with people the more you help the people around you you know as much as you can, just the people directly around you, the more that group rises up and succeeds, right?

[707] And this is the idea of the, you know, new form of, like, podcast networks, which is where you have, like, like, my friend, he's doing a podcast network called Farrell Audio, and ideas is just a group of people that are, like, plugging in together and, like, sharing profits.

[708] This is the new model of things.

[709] It's a collective artists and people.

[710] Well, I mean, I'm not sure.

[711] if the podcast world represents a microcosm of an entire, you know, well, no, no, but here's the thing.

[712] This is what's beautiful about it, and this is why I bring it up is a new thing.

[713] The reason that it's, the reason we can do podcasts and the reason like you just shot your own special on your own and the, like, seeing comedians shoot their own special on it is because we have more access to technology than we have before.

[714] And technology is shrinking, getting smaller, which is basically creating a situation where collectives form instead, of the pyramid Illuminati top down power structure where someone owns the equipment and gets the majority of the dough.

[715] Do you know what I'm saying?

[716] It's like everything's shifting, widening out, spreading out.

[717] And that's why these fucking tyrants in the Middle East, it doesn't work when people have information.

[718] Right.

[719] It doesn't work.

[720] Well, you know, I've always, I remembered when they were talking to Muhammad Ali because when I was a kid, I remember when he had gotten, when he had fought Michael Spinks.

[721] It was on television.

[722] It was like a big deal.

[723] I remember my parents were trying to explain to me when I was a kid, like what had happened, that they had kept him from fighting.

[724] Like my parents wanted to see him fight.

[725] I can't believe my parents were into fighting at all, but they wanted to see Muhammad Ali beat Leon Spinks.

[726] It was like some important fight.

[727] And their idea was that this guy was like a cultural hero, because what he had done was stepped up and said, why would I shoot a guy in Vietnam?

[728] No Vietnam man ever did.

[729] anything to me, you know, and he's right, and he was 100 % right, and everybody knew it, and it made sense, and because of that, they punished him, and they wouldn't let him box for three years, you know, they took away his livelihood in the prime of his career, like, physically.

[730] Yeah, well, this, that, that phenomena that you just described has been going on since the history of top -down power structures.

[731] This book I'm reading, and now I can't remember the name, it's so fucking good, but it's got um uh you know a picture of copernicus standing before like catholic popes um and being judged for talking about the fact that the earth revolves around the sun you know it's like this is a people say the truth throughout history and many people have gone to jail or gotten burned at the fucking steak for it oh hell hello that's criminal water i think the last time i drank this energy drink?

[732] It's pretty mellow.

[733] It's pretty mellow for an energy drink.

[734] It's like a lot of it is natural.

[735] It's like B -12 in it and shit.

[736] Did these guys sponsor you?

[737] No, it's just a friend of mine.

[738] Lime light.

[739] Powerful Lime light.

[740] My friend Tom Attencio, he used to run Affliction, and he was the guy who put together, or one of the guys who put together their mixed martial arts cards that they had, and I always appreciated that, that he did that.

[741] They, you know, affliction supported MMA.

[742] So I became friends with him.

[743] and I was wearing their shirts for a little while but then they fired him so I quit out of respect for my friend I avoided my partnership with them so but he sends me soda now he's cool as fuck he's a good dude I just really respected what he and his company did for MMA they really supported a lot of fighters they they supported a lot of of fighters by promoting them they put on actual shows.

[744] They had, I think, three big shows, you know, and some of them were fucking great.

[745] Great fights.

[746] They put together some wild fights, but they just found out it's way too expensive.

[747] People don't realize how much money the UFC spends behind the scenes, like how much it costs to keep the machine running.

[748] It's an amazing amount of work.

[749] There's so many people behind the scenes, and they all of them have a long history.

[750] And the UFC has this big name, you know?

[751] It's hard to fuck with that.

[752] It's like to try to make a rival football league, even if you have a lot of talent, you get, man, everybody knows what the NFL is.

[753] You know, they tried that shit a couple of times.

[754] They tried it with the XFL members, like Vince McBrand, the wrestling guy tried to do that.

[755] It's hard.

[756] It's hard to get people to, you know, and the UFC is consistent with getting the best talent.

[757] Consistently get the best talent.

[758] Like, what's her name?

[759] Oh, yeah.

[760] Ronda Rousey?

[761] No, the girl who walks around with the number.

[762] Oh, there we are.

[763] Man, she is beautiful.

[764] She's got a perfect face.

[765] Oh, my God.

[766] Perfect everything, man. Her face is just, she has a flawless face.

[767] It's like, wow, so pretty.

[768] What's really funny about watching her is she's gotten down this casual wave to the hordes of purbs or screened.

[769] Like, not acknowledging the face.

[770] It's like an apocalypse now.

[771] By the sea of testosterone.

[772] She does this little side, like two -finger wave.

[773] Like, ah.

[774] Do you remember that scene?

[775] That was a great fucking scene The apocalypse now Yeah That seems so real Totally real man If you had ever seen it What happens These these guys were over there Fighting at war It's only men There's thousands of them And they fly in these Playboy playmates And they're like Dancing around on stage And it just gets angry It's just a It becomes like a mosh pit of gorillas And eventually they have to abandon And fucking fly out of there Yeah It's dude That was one of the best That movie was so hard Did someone get left behind That scene?

[776] I don't remember i should i don't remember can i ask an important question i think a lot of ufc fans wonder this every day me included okay does er what's her name eriani does she have a boyfriend i do not know if she currently has a boyfriend i do not know well we're dying to know because we all feel like we think you like you all everyone has a shot i know that girl gets bombed on by i can't by princes by the of course she gets bombed on by the roth child she gets bombed on by the roth child she gets bombed people who like transform into a reptilian in front of her here take a diamond she wouldn't do this but if she wanted to she wouldn't but if she wanted to she's the type of chick to get some like middle east king to fly her out for like a million bucks easy yeah easy million bucks a night that's crazy fucking for 10 million yeah I mean when you have a if you have a trillion bucks like from what I understand is like royal families that have so much money and their money's not public.

[777] Like when people look at who's like the richest man in the world, oh, it's Bill Gates or it's probably not.

[778] It's actually probably some dude in the Middle East that doesn't talk about it at all.

[779] And you don't know, some prints or, like, they have extraordinary amounts of money.

[780] And I don't think that a lot of times it gets measured up in the same pile.

[781] I might be wrong about that, but from what people have told me about, like, really, really wealthy people in the Middle East, they're some of the wealthiest people on earth.

[782] That it's like insane, staggering amounts of wealth.

[783] The thing I like to think about is like maybe, you know, like when you walk by a school and you see all the kids playing in the playground, some of them are fucking playing like four squares, some of them are running around playing tag, and they're just having a blast.

[784] Sometimes I think maybe that's what society is.

[785] Maybe we're just like kids playing around in this playground that's been created by really, really smart, super wealthy people who kind of watch in, watch.

[786] Maybe, like, maybe they have some fun with us.

[787] They, like, throw shit in there every once in a while just to play around, but they're so fucking powerful and rich.

[788] They're not, they don't need to go in there and, like, seem like they're famous or act like they're magical.

[789] They just like to watch.

[790] It's fun.

[791] Every once in a while they'll throw in something crazy, you know?

[792] Every once in a while they'll throw in the AIDS virus or toss -in.

[793] Well, when you have power for no reason, which essentially everyone at the very top of the heat has, there's no reason why you should have power okay now if you have power for no reason you know that it's not like you earned your power through your basketball skills you know the fact that you shoot a wicked three pointer or you're awesome at the violin no there's no real tangible skill that you present that anybody else couldn't also have you know what is vague characteristics like leadership and intelligence the ability to speak well god damn there's a lot of people that have that have back yeah there's there's thousands of people out there in your neighborhood that can do that okay so they know that you have to be treacherous in order to retain this power when you see different laws every day that are being brought up like the national defense authorization act all this other different stuff all when you see like civil liberties getting eroded and you see corruption getting eroding there's your evidence that that is the exact evidence that you need to know that the people that are in a position of power shouldn't be in power they're trying to get more and more and more control why are you trying to get more and more control.

[794] Why are you actively trying to get control?

[795] Instead of dealing with the issues that we already have, dealing with the crime that we already have, dealing with unsolved murders or what have you, instead of devoting your time into that aspect of helping society with law, instead of doing that, you're trying to take away civil liberties.

[796] You're trying to erode people's freedoms.

[797] That's the purest sign ever that the people who are in a position of power shouldn't be in a position of power.

[798] It's really sad, too.

[799] It's pure.

[800] There's no arguing it.

[801] There's no denying it.

[802] Obama can never deny it.

[803] If you brought it up to him, there's nothing he could say.

[804] There's no way anybody could say, for your own good, we need to take away your ability to send a private email to somebody.

[805] You can't have that.

[806] Well, what they say is they inevitably, one thing that they'll always say, is it's complicated.

[807] It's a very complex system.

[808] You don't understand.

[809] There's a lot more to it than just legalizing marijuana.

[810] There's a lot more to it, Joe.

[811] It's always complicated.

[812] Vampires love complication.

[813] They love tangles and complexity and the opposite of simplicity.

[814] simply because they you know why because they fucking hate the truth and the truth is always simple the truth is always just a very simple thing it's a you know you jump off a cliff you're gonna die it's it if you fucking don't eat you're gonna be hungry there's just some it's a tweet the truth is a tweet yeah fucking vampires they will take a truth and they'll transform it and extrapolate so much shit from it that it turns into a fucking lie and then they say you know we can't it's just too tangled up the world's economy is just too confusing.

[815] This is why we've got to exploit these people.

[816] This is why we've got to throw farmers in jail because it's complicated.

[817] This is why we're at war.

[818] We can't just not go to war.

[819] It's complicated.

[820] It's always complicated.

[821] But in real life, it's not complicated.

[822] There's nothing fucking complicated about, you probably shouldn't throw bombs places where there's kids.

[823] That's like if you see somebody throwing bombs in a place where there's some kids, you're going to be like, you know, you probably shouldn't do that.

[824] It fucking kills kids.

[825] But like, when it's no one else, when you don't understand, there's a target.

[826] Insurgents.

[827] Insurgents could be in that, oh, you mean fucking farmers who are sick of you driving tanks through their opium fields?

[828] Is that the insurgents you're talking about?

[829] Well, you've seen the original video from WikiLeaks, right?

[830] The collateral murder video where it shows the helicopter shooting missiles and shit into a car that has kids in it.

[831] Oh, yeah.

[832] And they, you know, and someone says, This kids, well, you know, they should have been taking their kids while they're carrying guns.

[833] I mean, whatever the fuck they said.

[834] You know, you shouldn't have had your kids with you.

[835] As if they should have thought about that since they're the enemy.

[836] They should have, you know, all they were innocent.

[837] They shot a bunch of innocent people.

[838] It was a complete total cluster fuck.

[839] Sure, it's not complicated.

[840] It's a real simple thing about life.

[841] That's the thing.

[842] Here's a simple, there's some simple ideas.

[843] You're not supposed to shoot into cars and have kids in them.

[844] You're not supposed to shoot into cars that have kids in them.

[845] And also, if you send out good energy into the world, you get good.

[846] energy back.

[847] There's another basic principle that you can test all day.

[848] Test it next week.

[849] Yeah, they didn't even like zoom in to see if they are, if the people do have guns.

[850] They mean they just, they just fucking gunned them down, man. To have that ability and that kind of power you know, and they're like, you know, and they're saying, oh, we're pretty sure this guy's got a gun and this guy's got a gun.

[851] And they're like permission to engage and they get permission.

[852] They just fucking open up on these people.

[853] Yeah.

[854] And that's it.

[855] Those people don't exist anymore.

[856] That's it.

[857] And we wouldn't even know that that is happening.

[858] We wouldn't even know.

[859] Have you seen the new video, the Blackwater video that's been released recently?

[860] No. The Young Turks had it on that guy, Sank.

[861] I really like that guy's show.

[862] He's fucking fearless, man. He attacks everything.

[863] He attacks, like, he goes after that Peter Schiff guy.

[864] You know, Peter Schiff, when he starts, you know, making excuses for Wall Street.

[865] Right.

[866] You know, the way to fix this.

[867] And he's just like, no, you'd use it.

[868] And he calls him out.

[869] He's like, you just want to keep extracting more money from the system.

[870] You just want to keep...

[871] You know, you're talking bullshit, and he cut him off.

[872] And I liked it, man. It was interesting.

[873] But he was talking about this, and he was...

[874] You know, he was talking about how...

[875] What was the fucking law?

[876] What was the law that was passed?

[877] Which one?

[878] Shit.

[879] I'm completely lost my thought.

[880] What was his fucking thing about?

[881] The Young Turks?

[882] Yeah.

[883] I didn't see it.

[884] shit god damn it well i'll remember let's rewind a few steps back all this macro shit man thinking about the macro the conspiracy this is going to drive me crazy if i don't remember what this fucking guys video was about oh the iraqi oh jesus oh this is why it was so disturbing i'm probably trying to forget it it was watching the blackwater guys this young this the young turks made a video about this exposed it and showed there's new videos that had been released that were like from the actual cars of the guys in Blackwater that were driving around smashing into people's cars one of them they hit a lady while she was walking across the street and you see the guy see the lady go down go oh shit and they just drive on they just left her there and they're smashed into people's cars they're sticking their guns out the window and just randomly shooting at things it's really fucking crazy it's really crazy to watch man it's really crazy and that's just There's no getting around that.

[885] You can't, you know, what you were talking about, making the Catholic religion or any kind of crazy cult that wants to have some sort of a justification for doing something really fucking wrong, we'll read you some huge, huge volume and tone on why it is that what they're doing is the correct move for everybody else in the long run.

[886] When you show a video like that, is that correct move using mercenaries, man?

[887] You see how crazy this is?

[888] You got people that are willing to kill people for money.

[889] And you paint him a fuckload of it, and you're letting them just run amok.

[890] No, man. I mean, this is a problem that will always exist, as long as power structures are triangular instead of circular.

[891] And there's no way around that, man. There's always just going to be that.

[892] There's no way around that.

[893] And the problem is, when power structures are triangular, they don't usually, the people at the top of that fucking triangle, the pyramid, they don't, they won't listen to logic.

[894] they don't care about what's right or what's wrong they're not going to listen to you you have to take the power from that that's what the idea of the fucking well they have to die off too that's the other possibility let's hope that's hope let's hope they die off because it's been a few thousand years they don't seem to be going anywhere it's just they take different forms they put on different masks and admittedly the violence is lessening and lessening so maybe the violence will dissipate to nothing I just I had no idea man I've been reading this fucking book about what the goddamn Catholics did to the fucking Cathars is what they were called.

[895] Wikipedia, that.

[896] Cathars just got exterminated by the Catholic Church, just burn at the fucking state, man, for believing a different version of Christianity.

[897] It could have been a threat.

[898] Well, this is a long time ago, obviously.

[899] It's just amazing that in 2012, after all the time and all the supposed shit that we had learned from the dark ages, and today, even still, you got this video released, this Blackwater video, of people just going to a foreign land and they're just fucking people up.

[900] You know, it's, that is at the very, the very peak of our society, when it comes to, like, causing change and damage, and that is, like, the highest, most impactful part of our world is war, right?

[901] As far as, like, destruction and as far as, like, that's, like, society at its breaking point or its boiling point, and it seems to stay at that same level.

[902] it seems to stay at that same level where we're always just that close to fucking everything up.

[903] We're always that close.

[904] And like as good as it ever got was like when Clinton was in office, it didn't really seem like we were going to war anymore.

[905] It seemed like the Soviet Union kind of falling apart and we're the only big dog in town.

[906] We're pretty cool and we're not going to fuck with anybody.

[907] So it's just, you know, it felt like everything was going to be okay.

[908] Yep.

[909] But then it went right back up to its bowling point and you realized that point where we had with the Clinton boiling port, that was unusual.

[910] That was unusual.

[911] The last of threat of imminent death that's the unusual thing this normal thing that we've gone through with the Bush administration and that we go through with the Obama administration now that's that's unusual or that is rather the norm that the unusual thing is peace the unusual thing is prosperity and relaxation and not worrying about fucking bombs dropping over your head from the other side of the world well it's yeah it's definitely normal when the people who are making the laws have apparently been paid off by people that prosper for more it's totally normal then it's just but it's amazing that it's it's still pushed through it's amazing it's amazing that in this day and age it can be so obvious it can be so laid out and yet still gets pushed through here's what's fucking amazing what's amazing is there's somebody in a corporation that has to have war happening or they're going to go bankrupt that's what's amazing there's people who are like man we got to get some wars dude our division is strictly missile reconstruct and we're not blowing up missiles and we're not reconstructing areas where missiles destroyed.

[912] Yeah, that's it.

[913] Yeah, exactly, dude.

[914] That's what they're thinking.

[915] They're not, when they hear that peace might be coming, that's like, that's hearing that a fucking, they're about to go bankrupt.

[916] Do you think this calls like, hey, I heard that y 'all are running a surplus on a certain missile that we're about to go into construction on and we don't want to come out with version two while y 'all still got version one going on?

[917] They think you can make some campaigns Or you could put those bad boys to use Yeah, let's come on I shouldn't be afraid to use those things Do you think that a like a fucking Robert Dunney Jr. contractor character Could call somebody up and ask him to launch some missiles.

[918] Dude, do you think when those sons of bitches who manufacture that shit watch war footage On the news, they're like, oh, hell yeah, that's a B9 at 6.

[919] That's my boy.

[920] That's the child shredder.

[921] Hell yeah, look at that thing.

[922] Look at the spread on that bomb.

[923] Who!

[924] Hell yeah.

[925] Every time they see that, they're like, Cha -ching, cha -ching.

[926] Every time a bomb goes off, they're like, yeah, that's a hundred grand, 100 grand, 100 grand.

[927] Yeah.

[928] What about dudes that have, never been to war, but they're, obsessed with, soldier fortune magazine.

[929] that's weird.

[930] And fucking, you know, packing heat everywhere they go.

[931] Yeah.

[932] They live in the wild west in the back of their head.

[933] Dude, I got to tell you, I think I got the potential to be like that with this, man. Because, like, yeah, because I, well, it's an equalizer.

[934] That's why people like it.

[935] If you feel like you've been put in a situation where you could have been in danger physically because some asshole wanted to fuck you up, and they could have done that to you.

[936] That's a terrible, terrible feeling.

[937] So once you've experienced that terrible feeling, you want to have some sort of an equal.

[938] Preparation, nothing wrong with it, man. I really, I mean, and it seems so weird because I know I come off as this kind of like hippie dude, but I was raising the South, man. And my dad taught me how to be safe with a gun, taught me how fun it was to shoot a gun, taught me, like, you know, took me hunting.

[939] And I'm not afraid of guns.

[940] I think they're fucking awesome, man. They're really cool.

[941] I just don't, I haven't gotten around to buying one in L .A. And it feels like there's this, you know, we were talking about this around Diaz.

[942] And he was saying, like, it'll attract guns.

[943] Yeah, that's what D .S. things, yeah.

[944] A lot of people think that.

[945] They think that if you have the weapon, it will act as some kind of magnet for negativity that will, like, bring it to you.

[946] It's a superstitious idea.

[947] But some part of me, I'm like, oh, shit, man. Maybe so, man. I don't know.

[948] Maybe I should just ignore it and not have a gun.

[949] I mean, I doubt anyone's...

[950] Well, you never know, man. You never know.

[951] Somebody could just decide to fucking kick in your door and, like, take your shit and fucking stab you to death.

[952] People do get robbed.

[953] There are home invasions.

[954] People do stoke people out.

[955] It doesn't happen.

[956] It doesn't happen that often.

[957] Well, what's really going on, man, is that there's so many fucking people on this planet, you're hearing about so many different violent acts.

[958] Even in bad neighborhoods, on acts are fairly rare you know maybe a million people one of them get shot a day it sucks this yeah one in a million that's it's not a lot i mean it's not it's not it's not a little you know when you think about it that way it sucks that this is the society we live in man this is where we've hit upon in the multiverse because like think of all the other things that people can break in your house and do like what a great dimension where like fucking hot chicks sometimes swarm neighborhoods and just give random blowjohn what if you don't want a random blowjob from a hot What if you're trying to, like, control your sperm and you're on this Dalai Lama -type journey and some hot chick breaks into his house and sucks his dick and ruins his whole spiritual journey?

[959] Yeah, what if you turn into a zombie?

[960] Like, anyone's not going to want to blow a job from a hot day?

[961] He's going to realize that he wasted his whole stupid life dressing up like a genie when he could have been just getting his dick suck from the get -go.

[962] I know!

[963] Then that's a good lesson!

[964] Yeah, it is a good lesson, but you can't force someone to have a lesson.

[965] Well, you can't rape the Dalai Lama.

[966] Well, that's what she would be doing.

[967] She would be raping the poor guy.

[968] You couldn't help themselves.

[969] She's not suggesting that hot chicks don't rape the Dalai Lama.

[970] When a woman that hot starts stroking your cock, you are not even in control.

[971] You're not even in control.

[972] You're a zombie.

[973] You're a DNA zombie.

[974] You're just trying to shoot DNA.

[975] Brains.

[976] You're just trying to shoot loads, loads.

[977] You're just trying to get rid of that ache in your balls.

[978] Oh, what a terrible.

[979] The whole guy's light means he's a single sort of pudgy, weird kind of Asian character.

[980] too has a lot of really famous friends you know it's kind of a name dropper always hanging out with Richard Gere I'm not dissing him at all I'm just being honest about what he looks like you know it'd be awesome if he would that would rock his fucking world if some Megan Fox looking chick came in and started sucking his cock what'd be awesome is that the Dalai Lama fire back at you well like you're not I don't mean any disrespect to the Dalai Lama he's like yo Joe Rogan whoa that would be crazy if I was the first guy of Dalai Lama told him to go fuck himself like wow I must be a dick I'm sure he's a great guy, and I don't think there's anything wrong with doing life the way he's doing.

[981] I just think it's when I look at his life in comparison to a life that I would find interesting.

[982] I'm like, come on, man, you don't want to have a wife or a girlfriend.

[983] You don't want to have sex.

[984] You don't want to, like, really?

[985] You don't want to engage in, like, fun things.

[986] Really?

[987] Is that too much, it's too much of an effort to, is that really too much of an effort to have a relationship, or can it be managed, and you're just a lazy bitch?

[988] And you can't figure out how to manage your own life and manage your own relationships in a way that you would attract someone who would also have sort of a harmonious relationship with you.

[989] You know, for some people, that's like too much work to try to get their own shit together to attract someone.

[990] So, I mean, it's like a real complicated formula.

[991] So to say, oh, that's too much work.

[992] I think you miss out on a big part of what it is to be a human being.

[993] He obviously has compassionate relationships with people where he's friends with them and he communicates with them.

[994] But to not be exchanging affection, in my opinion, is just this massive.

[995] misunderstanding of the joy of life.

[996] Right.

[997] Because sex with someone you love that you're really attracted to you is one of the, that you're really attracted to is one of the most intense physical experiences and beautiful experiences a person can ever have.

[998] It really is.

[999] It's intense.

[1000] It's a beautiful, intense experience that cannot be recreated in a solo environment.

[1001] Well, this is the thing.

[1002] These are things that are impossible to answer because I only read about them I don't know if it's true or not but like I think a lot of people who become hermits and leave society of those people of all the people who leave society and become a monk go and become a hermit go into the woods and vanish from life yeah of all those people probably the a big percentage of them are doing it as an escape mechanism right but I bet there's a small percentage in them that they're like have heard of these peaks that you can climb to and consciousness that certain things will get in the way of getting to those peaks.

[1003] It's not impossible, but certain, it's kind of like, you know, there's a lot of different paths through the forest.

[1004] Some of them are more difficult than others, and some of them are, especially when you've got the complication of a wife and children, you can't go through some of the forms of discipline that apparently are required to hit a transcendent experience that a lot of people, many, many, many, many people have written about.

[1005] You know what I mean?

[1006] So I think there is a small group of people who really authentically you're just like I want to fucking go for it I want to see how far I can go into this is there enlightenment is there this state of um higher awareness that you can get through meditation I want to do that and that you know the prescription for some of these things is to fucking meditate for years straight yeah you know you can't do that with fucking kids you can't do that with a you can't do that with a job you can't do it with um the normal complications of society so you've got to go out into the fucking cave to do it.

[1007] It's amazing.

[1008] When you really stop and think about it, it's like no other, or rather, it's like any other discipline.

[1009] You know, in order to really take it to the highest level, you have to devote all of your time to it.

[1010] That's it.

[1011] And managing the mind and managing the deep recesses of your consciousness and increasing the brain's ability to focus on certain tasks and things.

[1012] I mean, they've shown that meditation directly changes the way the brain works.

[1013] Oh yeah.

[1014] Do you know?

[1015] It's the, the, the those what vision isn't what they use when they're doing like cross sections of the brain during any sort of a neural activity.

[1016] Cat scans?

[1017] I don't know if it's a cat scan.

[1018] What if it is?

[1019] They run tests on people and they find out like what areas of the brain or effect.

[1020] They have remarkable minds.

[1021] You know, people that meditate like Buddhist monks.

[1022] It's like they've literally like developed a different sort of a brain.

[1023] Dude, it's, I don't think my brain.

[1024] changed but my one of my favorite parts of the day I wake up in the morning and chant I fucking love it dude and I'll tell you I'll wake up with my brain squirming with shit thoughts and like anxious sometimes and just maybe I had a bad dream or like I'm stressed out about someone sit down and fucking meditate 10 minutes 15 minutes later it's not gone yeah I'm not healed I'm not cured of the thoughts but now the thoughts aren't on top they're underneath my will you know what I mean and that changes everything for the rest of of the day because now when I'm attacking the different problems and things I have to accomplish, the first thing I'm feeling is this sense of self -control and underneath it are all the anxieties instead of approaching your problems with an anxious mind or a turbulent mind.

[1025] I think managing the mind and putting the mind to good use is just like managing the body and putting the body to good use.

[1026] And I think the mind can become more athletic.

[1027] The mind can become more synaptic or more responsive rather synaptically.

[1028] that's cool well no the the it's a yeah the mind is definitely sure i mean look when you write when you write don't you notice that if you like take time off and write again you start writing and you feel like a little clunky at first and then after a day or two you're in the groove and then zooming through yeah and then you get to that it's like you have to like keep up that sort of shape you have to keep up a certain creative shape or you know or mind uh meditative sort of a controlled shape This is what people This is why more people don't meditate And more people It's fucking boring Discipline lives It's boring at first It's boring at first But when but after you Lose your mind After you lose your mind After you fucking get past the initial thing The initial like boredom of it It turns into something really incredible It's the deepest you've ever gotten Through meditation?

[1029] Man the deepest I ever got through meditation Was I was super stoned That doesn't not count Oh, my dear man. Most certainly, you can get stoned and meditate.

[1030] Shit, man. It's one of my favorite things to do is to get stoned and meditate.

[1031] Fuck, that's the best, man. McKenna had this funny story about, or this funny analogy about UFO abductees, is that the real problem with any stories that you ever hear about UFOs is that you have, have to automatically discount every one of them that involved five grams of mushrooms.

[1032] It's true too, right?

[1033] Because you were tripping, dude.

[1034] But maybe that's no. But maybe that's how he sees it.

[1035] Yeah.

[1036] you know, Or maybe, like, a lot of different philosophies came from people getting really high.

[1037] That's that book that showed you, you know?

[1038] Right.

[1039] The cannabis is, has its, is a very old plant that we've had a relationship with for a long time.

[1040] Yeah.

[1041] And people love to invalidate things.

[1042] that you've thought up when you were stoned.

[1043] They love to validate states of consciousness you obtain through merging with a plant mother.

[1044] But I'll tell you man, fucking getting hot chanting and getting high, wow.

[1045] That's like, now if you want, if you want me to like come up with a time when I wasn't stoned and meditating, I could think of a time when I was on the Zen retreat sitting and staring at a wall and for like seven hours straight and like definitely there was a shift in consciousness and I was like getting Retarded.

[1046] Getting confused.

[1047] That was, I take, I take offense of that word.

[1048] I really do.

[1049] I was getting confused because I've been staring at a wall for so long.

[1050] I was getting confused about my identity.

[1051] So it was sort of a consciousness ideal poisoning or ordeal poisoning.

[1052] Yeah, it was a bit of a poisoning.

[1053] But, like, you're getting confused about your identity?

[1054] Well, I was staring at the wall and I knew I was, I mean, they were talking like eight hours of fucking meditating, man. Just staring at a wall with your eyes over?

[1055] Yeah, with your eyes open.

[1056] and like you're just kind of going in and out of like you know you never close your eyes no you technically you're not supposed to this is why in the zen temples uh in japan where the people really take it seriously people walk around fucking rods and the moment a monk starts nodding off they get a nice fucking rod and the right on their shoulder you can wow whack wake your ass up wow so like um and that's they don't want lazy monks no they want you there in the moment and you're What are they trying to accomplish?

[1057] Well, they're going to make an army of super psychics?

[1058] Super psychics.

[1059] You imagine if that's what it is?

[1060] That's the only way to become like a real warrior.

[1061] They could become a psychic warrior.

[1062] Well, this is the fucking crazy thing, man. I mean, with, what's a Zen monk trying to accomplish?

[1063] Yeah.

[1064] The answer to that?

[1065] Nothing.

[1066] That's like a to -in.

[1067] But, but, um...

[1068] It's the sound of one -hand clapping.

[1069] Yeah.

[1070] But other people who don't have such lofty ideals to merge with the nothingness, uh, these people are trying to accomplish things.

[1071] And I believe the name of these superpowers or magical traits that you get from disciplining the will are called cities, S -I -D -D -H -I -S.

[1072] Cities of Consciousness.

[1073] Yeah.

[1074] Yeah.

[1075] And these are like the ability, if you start focusing, you know, I would even say that in some weird way, stand -up comedy is a form of city in the sense that you're able to get in front of a group of people and make them fucking laugh.

[1076] And it takes a long time to develop.

[1077] It's a discipline.

[1078] It takes a long time to develop.

[1079] and you get this skill that's kind of abnormal that some people aren't able to do.

[1080] You know what I mean?

[1081] Like, it doesn't have to be reading someone's mind.

[1082] It doesn't have to be levitating or walking through a wall.

[1083] It's just like, shit, man, when I watch the fucking UFC and see somebody do a flying leg kick into someone's head, that's magic to me. That's a magical fucking thing.

[1084] That guy, the fact that that guy can do that...

[1085] It's acrobatic.

[1086] It's acrobatic.

[1087] These fucking assholes, not they're not really assholes, but when you see them get in their backflip content, these guys throw a fucking back.

[1088] flip like it's nothing.

[1089] Yeah, and this is after fighting for three rounds.

[1090] After getting, yeah, and it's whaling on each other for three rounds.

[1091] And if the backflip doesn't land and you fall, that's going to be played on the internet.

[1092] Infinitely.

[1093] So the risk involved in that backflip is super extreme, man. So to me, that's also a, it's not real magic in the sense it's explainable, but it's like, I think that people can develop other forms of this.

[1094] And the other forms of it, I don't want to use the term telepathy.

[1095] but maybe people get really good at reading micro gestures or micro movements in someone's face and recognizing when they're telling the truth or when they're telling a lot.

[1096] Fuck, man, just someone who's really focused and sitting and listening to you and looking you in the eye in a really focused way, that's unnerving sometimes when someone's got real fucking focus.

[1097] Because most people don't.

[1098] Most people are scattered.

[1099] They're scattered to the fucking winds, man. They can barely listen to you for four minutes without fading out or checking their phone or fucking you know what I mean yeah so will itself just the ability to draw your senses and focus on the moment that's a pretty potent thing to be able to to do and you're not going to get that from playing video games you're not going to get that from getting drunk all the time you're not going to get that from fucking all the time you're going to get that from stopping the show sitting down crossing your legs taking a breath and not moving for 10 minutes and watch your mind freak the fuck out.

[1100] Your mind will turn into a cat that you're trying to put in the bathtub.

[1101] Your mind will just start wriggling, squirming, warming, hey, what are you doing?

[1102] That's almost the first thing.

[1103] It's thinking, like, come on, what are you fucking doing here?

[1104] What are you sitting here not moving for?

[1105] What is this?

[1106] Who do you think you are?

[1107] You think you're fucking Gandhi?

[1108] What do you think you're doing?

[1109] Really, you're going to do this?

[1110] And then that, if you overcome that, then that'll change a little bit and all of a sudden you'll start relaxing a little bit, your body relax, and all of a sudden it's like, oh shit, man, I didn't put that fucking candle out in the other room.

[1111] I should go put that candle on the other room.

[1112] I think I'll have a candle burning in the other room.

[1113] And then you just breathe through that.

[1114] And then it's going to be, oh, fuck, I call Jack.

[1115] I forgot to call Jack.

[1116] It's all these moments trying to take you away.

[1117] And it's almost like your mind has set all these infinite traps to keep you from getting in the state of stillness.

[1118] But eventually, the more you do that, the more your mind will begin to be in the moment and not be in a place of expectation and not be waiting for the meditation to end and not be thinking about how cool it is that you're meditating or how dumb it is that you're meditating.

[1119] Something else kicks in.

[1120] That thing.

[1121] That fucking thing, man. That's the thing that I think people are trying to extend to their entire lifetime.

[1122] It's just that state of being present in the moment with no goal for what's going to happen, not caring about what happened.

[1123] You know, it's just a difficult place to get to.

[1124] Yeah, and you don't always want to be there either.

[1125] You don't want to be there all day because you have to live with humans.

[1126] And if you're going to live completely in that total Zen state, I guess you can do it Ram Dass style and just go video.

[1127] video conferencing with people all day online, but if you want to actually try to make a living.

[1128] No, the Ram Dass style is really interesting because the Ramda's style doesn't have ethics attached to it.

[1129] That guy fucking talks about going and eating like going into a fucking restaurant ordering a steak.

[1130] Really?

[1131] Yeah, fuck yeah, man. He eats steak?

[1132] He did in this story.

[1133] I don't know if he continues to eat meat, but it's like his whole thing is like, listen, man, it's not, what we're going for here isn't a fake way, fake imposition.

[1134] And what we're going here for is this being in the flow of life, being in the moment, letting you know.

[1135] Sometimes that means hell of fucking cheese burger.

[1136] Sometimes eat that burger.

[1137] Sometimes it means fucking, you know, get your cock sucked.

[1138] Sometimes, you know what I mean?

[1139] Sometimes it means fucking.

[1140] The way you said that was so southern.

[1141] Get your cock sucks.

[1142] Get your cock sucked, boy.

[1143] Oh, in my sister's room and get your.

[1144] I love my southern accent does come out sometimes.

[1145] But yeah, man, this is this state of being in the.

[1146] the moment doesn't mean right but don't you have some sort of an ethical responsibility for animal cruelty and the pollution of the environment and all the different variables that really even though you have no control over you are a part of society and yeah the macro contribute to the problem by continuing support this is what I think about that I call this what you're saying I consider it the starving kid in Africa the starving kid in Africa has stopped many many people from experimenting with like bringing their will into the world because they think yeah what about the fucking starving kid in Africa?

[1147] What about the, what about the macro?

[1148] What about the eating meat hurts animals and the bigger picture?

[1149] I think that that is a very valid thing to think about.

[1150] But I think the first thing to think about before you start thinking about the bigger picture is your little picture.

[1151] It's thinking about how are you treating the people around you?

[1152] What living condition are you in?

[1153] Are you healthy?

[1154] Are you exercising?

[1155] First, deal with that deal with that and then worry about the fucking kid in africa first deal with that thing and you'll get your you know your uh get your focus back come out of autopilot first because your ego will tell you like look man we've got to think about the big picture here the ego always wants to think about the big fucking picture the ego always wants to think about like the ego is uh messianic the ego wants to be jesus the ego wants to heal the world or the ego wants to fucking do all this crazy shit meanwhile you're fucking smoking cigarettes your apartment's like cat litter your balls are fucking festering with crab lice you know what i mean you know what i mean you got to fucking think about the fucking moment you got to think about the moment yeah we were talking about a dude who was screaming and yelling about chemtrails while he was smoking cigarettes yeah it's like what you're doing has got to be worse than what they're doing by spraying you absolutely man that that see this is the this i this i think is the recipe for a true revolution.

[1156] The recipe for a true revolution does not involve going out into the world and trying to attack these ancient, powerful monolithic structures by throwing Molotov cocktails at him.

[1157] It fucking involves stopping, looking at the way you're treating the people directly around you.

[1158] How do you treat waiters?

[1159] How do you treat people at the cash register?

[1160] How do you treat people that you have power over?

[1161] Even if the power is illusionary and it's just a game because when you're with a waiter, you're playing the game.

[1162] of someone being served they're playing the game of the server you're just fucking people right but you start looking how am i treating the people around first you start looking how am i treating myself that's the number one yeah that is the number one look at yourself are you being ecstatic to yourself are you being sweet to yourself are you taking vitamins are you being cruel to yourself or you're poisoning yourself are you shoving poison into your body's first bodies body first deal with that then once you start feeling good and healthy again the depression will start wearing off and then you start looking at the way you're treating people around you then you start tipping too much this is something you've taught me man i don't want to go all fucking secret on everybody's ass here but ever since i started tipping too much fucking more money than i've ever made it's been coming into my life dude and i feel like there's some kind of like direct uh correlation between how much you put out and how much comes back i mean it's possible it's also possible that it just came in a coincidental time to when you started making money and could tip because you had some momentum running.

[1163] Dude, I'll tell you one, number one quality.

[1164] It doesn't hurt, though.

[1165] I'll tell you one quality that is I always have when I'm broke.

[1166] You know what that fucking quality is?

[1167] Selfishness.

[1168] I always will look at the way I'm acting.

[1169] It's always very fucking selfish.

[1170] It's always survival mode, and I've got to look out for me. You know what I mean?

[1171] There's a fucking verse in the...

[1172] I always quote the fucking Bible.

[1173] I am not a Christian, but there's a verse in the New Testament that I'd always perplexed.

[1174] me it was something like those who have will get more and those who have not more will be taken away and the idea is like this sense of like this it doesn't make sense it doesn't go with the way we've been taught it doesn't make sense that if you give out more than you have you'll get more back it doesn't well i don't know if it's more than you have i think you just have to be generous give more than you have how can you give more than you have easy you only have what you have I'm going to Duncan Trussell .com.

[1175] My children, if you get me. It's like saying I'm going to try 100%, 10%.

[1176] You can't.

[1177] I know, I know, you're right.

[1178] I'm going to give 110%.

[1179] No, you're not.

[1180] You know what it is, man. It's like the church had this idea, and the idea was tithing, right?

[1181] And the idea was give 10 % of your income to the church, right?

[1182] This is, so, because the church will deal with, like, giving the money out.

[1183] Now, I think that this is based on a metaphysical principle.

[1184] I think it's based on a metaphysical principle.

[1185] a physical principle, which is that if you give out, like imagine, I think we may have talked about this before, but imagine if you cut out 10 % of your income and just put it in a pile and made the decision that that 10%, you're going to just fucking give to people who need it.

[1186] You're just going to give it to help people.

[1187] You're going to use it to, like, help people.

[1188] That's 10 % of your income is going out into the world to help people.

[1189] That would be your favorite money, that fucking 10%.

[1190] Like on a Saturday, if you get to go into that account, you'd be like, fuck, man, I'm going buy my friend at Xbox just because that's coming out of the 10 % that's a that's a cool thing that's a good idea everybody thinks it's like oh I'm gonna go give a ham sandwich to a heroin at it no go fucking surprise your friend take him out to a fucking take him out to dinner and then fucking buy dinner when they didn't expect it take one of your friends out it doesn't have a lot of money right now and like do something really cool for them when they don't expect it and don't act like they owe you just like no dude I just thought it would be fun that's fun that's tithing, if you ask me, instead of letting the church be in control of it.

[1191] Well, the problem, the church is always going to be, like, who are they?

[1192] It's just people, man. They're not really representing God.

[1193] So if you've got a good church, you can work out well.

[1194] There's a lot of churches that do a lot of great stuff for the community.

[1195] There's a lot of churches that keep people together.

[1196] There's a lot of people out there, dude.

[1197] They haven't thought too much about the world.

[1198] They haven't thought too much about the complexities of the various different things that we do understand about the world.

[1199] Subatomic particles interacting the each other across the universe at the exact same time communication through subatomic particles, particles that are in both a superposition when they're in a state of both standing and moving at the same time.

[1200] There's just too much craziness going on in the world and there's not enough curiosity and that combination of that and their culture and whatever the fuck their genetic imprint was, whatever, you know, whatever 9 volt battery that they were born with, all that combined.

[1201] Some people need religion, man. Some people, it's like a super beneficial tool.

[1202] I don't deny it.

[1203] Look, essentially what Christianity is supposed to be.

[1204] It's supposed to be somewhat about being positive, about representing God, of being living life by God's standards.

[1205] Well, if you look at what God's standards are sort of vaguely, and you take out of the stories about killing people that he tells you to kill and what happens if you're a gay dude and, you know.

[1206] Jesus doesn't say any of that.

[1207] Jesus doesn't say any of that, but it's in the Bible.

[1208] It's supposed to be, if the Bible is supposed to represent the world of God, if it is really...

[1209] Well, this is the shit talk that the fucking Loonland disciples say...

[1210] Right.

[1211] You can't just follow what Christ said.

[1212] You've got to follow everything in that old, sweet old book.

[1213] Ultimately, when it comes down to a church, it really depends on who's running a church.

[1214] Like, the church could be a great asset to a community and a good place where people learn to be good people.

[1215] Or it could be fucking craziness if you wind up in a church where, you know, the priests are fucking kids and the whole thing's chaos.

[1216] I'll tell you, you know where I got a lot of info from, man?

[1217] I got a big download from when I used to go to Agape Church with Reverend Michael Beckwith.

[1218] I would fucking go there and that guy would blast positivity.

[1219] You would go there and get, you would walk out of there feeling so fucking great, man. What is his denomination?

[1220] He, I don't know the name of the denomination, but like he, they're into this book called The Science of Mind by Ernest Holmes, which is like this idea that you create your own reality by the thought.

[1221] that you think and it's a it's just a it's that mixed in with all the world religions mixed in with like kind of like I mean listen man it's a big church and I'm not saying every moment of the ceremony wasn't slightly embarrassing and I'm not saying that they're not people there dressed in like baggy big baggy pants and wearing sandals and have really gone deep into fruitland I'm not saying that that didn't happen but that church man some of the information I got out of there.

[1222] It was fucking really high -tech information.

[1223] I'll tell you something else that happened to me there.

[1224] And I'm sure I'm going to get fucking made fun of for this.

[1225] But I'll tell you, man. I had a fucking terrible.

[1226] I'd throw my back out.

[1227] Throw my fucking back out and couldn't move my fucking neck.

[1228] And I was like, fucked up and in a lot of pain.

[1229] And I'm standing there.

[1230] Oh my God, there was a song you sing.

[1231] They were seeing this song.

[1232] And this fucking guy behind me...

[1233] Start giving your back rub and grabbing your shaft.

[1234] I knew it would come.

[1235] Let me at least let me finish The story, let me finish the story before you attack.

[1236] You got to let me finish the stories.

[1237] It didn't lay into me. Here's the fucking story.

[1238] Listen, I knew this was coming.

[1239] I knew that there's no way I could tell you.

[1240] Sorry.

[1241] I'm a child.

[1242] This guy, I think it's funny.

[1243] This guy touches my back.

[1244] And dude, instantly I felt fucking better.

[1245] Instantly, everything went away.

[1246] My back felt better.

[1247] Everything was funny.

[1248] Ladies you gentlemen, remember what I said yesterday about disinformation agents?

[1249] Duncan Clearing just exposed himself As a government agent An agent of disinfo He says all this brilliant shit And then he incorporates some back human magic touches This motherfucker is doing Christian healing Listen I can only report From my own experience What about praying the gay away Have you ever seen anybody successfully pray the gay away?

[1250] No Have you ever seen someone try?

[1251] No No Okay I haven't seen anyone fucking pray the gay away show, but it's not the same thing.

[1252] It's not the same thing as a guy coming up and touching you and healing your back.

[1253] He was standing there.

[1254] He was standing there.

[1255] It was a magical touch and healed your back.

[1256] Why would I bring this on my husband for you?

[1257] He's silly bitch.

[1258] Why did you give me this?

[1259] I can't, I can't leave this alone.

[1260] This is ridiculous.

[1261] So some guy came up and his desire to stick his penis inside your asshole was so strong.

[1262] But as he touched your back, the jolt just real.

[1263] line, your back, because your back knew that it had to fight to survive.

[1264] So, because Darrell...

[1265] You felt the love and lust of this man's fingertips?

[1266] Because Darrell healed me. You're saying he's gay.

[1267] Daryl have flannel underwear on.

[1268] He wasn't wearing underwear that day.

[1269] Whoa.

[1270] Look, I believe...

[1271] Just raw cock and zipper.

[1272] I'm dangerous.

[1273] Rock cock pressed up against the cold metal of the zipper.

[1274] I can't believe that you're turning to healers and it always been gay.

[1275] Oh, let me just touch his back.

[1276] The gay came out of his hand Like a lightning bolt He was like one of the Avengers The gay came out of his hand Into your back And it just popped your back into order Listen, this is exactly what Jesus said It was like a baby I'll persecute you I'm being persecuted You know what you were This is religious persecution Yes, it is absolutely Absolutely that guy prayed He got out of it He couldn't help himself You were sexy You were slightly slumped, leaning to one side.

[1277] Look like you had to hurt knee, maybe.

[1278] I'm trying to remember the song that we sang there, just so I can give you more.

[1279] You got to pray the gateway, pray the gateway.

[1280] No way, I'll sing it.

[1281] I'll sing it, dude.

[1282] I'm going to give you more, more fucking ammo.

[1283] Okay.

[1284] I release and I let go.

[1285] Let God's power something my life.

[1286] I can't remember.

[1287] And they would just sing this over the.

[1288] over again and everybody was really getting into it yeah and people would like go up and down the aisles with Kleenex because people would start crying and like it was like but you know the i've learned to not throw the baby out with a bath water uh and so like a lot of the stuff yeah i don't know if i necessarily was like you know fully on board but i got some good information from there man there was like some really uh the shit that he talked about was this concept of being able to like You decide when it's time to be happy.

[1289] You decide to not be a victim.

[1290] You decide to pull yourself out of the negative mind that you're in.

[1291] And you can just do it.

[1292] You don't have to come up with excuses.

[1293] You don't have to go to the fucking mountains and meditate forever.

[1294] You don't have to.

[1295] You can just stop being a victim right away.

[1296] And the moment you do that, your life will become a million times better.

[1297] And everything else will follow from there.

[1298] You'll start treating people around you better.

[1299] And when you start treating people around you better, you're going to get more prosperity because if you're treating people around you like shit you're cutting off all these currents and circuits that...

[1300] Well, any interaction you have with someone that ends up at a negative, a negative on their side or a negative on your side, it's going to leave you with a little bit of a deficit.

[1301] For sure.

[1302] You know, it's not a good feeling.

[1303] It's not a good feeling when someone's upset at you.

[1304] No, it sucks.

[1305] It sucks.

[1306] It's fucking sucks.

[1307] And you don't realize how much of an impact your words or your actions can really have, until you see them upset someone and then you realize then it all manifests itself to you it all shows and they're like God damn it what the fuck was I thinking I just got so flippant with you know being rude or being aggressive or being you know adamant or argumentative or whatever it is that causes these blips in the matrix but sometimes you need to have those in your life just as a reminder you know be careful you're not even saying that you should have to have them but you look I see I see them in other people and I learn well it's shit peeing you can get caught up in a long game of shit ping pong with people and it's like look all there's no way that you're going to there's no way that you're going to be perfect and there's no way you're going to avoid conflict and there's no way you're going to avoid getting angry but the main thing is man here's the main thing forgiveness and forgiveness it fucking isn't always fair that's the thing about forgiveness, dude.

[1308] It's not always fair.

[1309] It's not always about who wins or who loses or who's right or who's wrong.

[1310] Sometimes you just have to be like, look, man, we got fucking blasted out of a pussy.

[1311] We're plunging towards oblivion.

[1312] We're in this insane fucking dimension.

[1313] You freaked out for a second.

[1314] I freaked out.

[1315] I forgive you.

[1316] You win.

[1317] You know what I mean?

[1318] Like you just take that extra fucking step.

[1319] And you know what that does?

[1320] That stops the fucking when you see like that stops the negative energy ball that's the idea right um are you talking about anyone in specific yeah yeah you know i i already i yeah you already did well for people don't know brian and duncan had gotten into uh an argument and uh you know it was unfortunate on both sides it's unfortunate that duncan brought it up in a public setting and sort of blindsided them and i think you feel that right i said it on that last podcast yeah that i did the real here's the real thing i learned from it though man this is the thing you're not going to avoid conflict and in in a community that's one thing i learned is we have this little fucking but do you if you had a chance to do it all again you wouldn't have done it that way absolutely not yeah you will i'm going to be honest with you you were a little snippy that day anyway man you even got snippy with me when i was fucking with you and i was not being that aggressive but you you seemed like you were a bit testy that day yeah man I was testy that day and and what happened was um without going into I hate fucking resurrecting it again because I think that it's like what made you test you that day I don't want to talk about that man okay that's a personal issue it's a fucking personal issue you certainly had it was a family issue do it was a bit in balance some shit had gone down yet but anyway there's no excuse I don't fuck why was I testy I was not in control of my fucking self.

[1321] That's what anyone's testing.

[1322] There's no excuse.

[1323] People always come up with excuses for acting like a fucking asshole.

[1324] It all boils down to like you...

[1325] Handling your own shit.

[1326] Not imposing your own bullshit on other people.

[1327] Exactly, dude.

[1328] So what happened is...

[1329] So what happened is during a podcast in Atlanta with Marshall Charles The Laughing Skull, I was starting to talk about those videos I made for South by Southwest.

[1330] Because I was trying to lead into talking about the Moon Tower Comedy Festival.

[1331] And for people who don't know, Duncan has been pretty admin about the, in my opinion, the very correct idea that if you're going to have a festival where you profit off of it and you have comedians perform at your festival, at the very least you have to fly them there.

[1332] I mean, if you want them to work for free, you can't really expect them to fly themselves there.

[1333] And then when you find out the whole thing is sponsored by an airline, you're like, what?

[1334] Right.

[1335] Because they're going to profit by the fact that people don't have to fly in.

[1336] The whole thing is crazy.

[1337] So you made this video where it was Hitler, and then over Hitler screaming, you had the translation, the Hitler meme, yes.

[1338] The translation was saying, you know, how preposterous it is.

[1339] Right.

[1340] It was just a basic idea, which is that if you charge for, if you have an event centered around comedians, artists, whatever, that couldn't function without the comedians or artists, you have to fairly compensate them you have to pay them a percentage of the door it doesn't have to be a lot give them a little cut whether it's a flight hotel I don't know whatever the fuck it is but just like make it fair so I was starting to talk about that and then Brian got on the microphone and started talking about how no no they pay the performers whereas like I have you know well he said it was up to the venues well no no he what he was talking about was as a comedian you can get sponsorship from other people like brown paper tickets or other like corporations will pay for you to perform at their parties or will in some way fund you but the festival itself doesn't pay so some venues don't pay the artist some venues don't decide because they're at a certain place they're paid because i've heard that some people have gotten paid by south by southwest who's getting paid i have um i actually the guy uh charlie satello who runs south by southwest when i was at moon tower We had the same fucking conversation.

[1341] Right.

[1342] And, you know, like, he was, he was saying, you know, we don't, we don't fucking pay John.

[1343] We didn't pay Johnny Cash.

[1344] Whoa.

[1345] You know what I mean?

[1346] Like, we don't pay, yeah, I know.

[1347] You know, like, so.

[1348] That's gangster.

[1349] He was saying, we just, yeah.

[1350] Johnny Cash to work for you for free.

[1351] It's fucking gangster.

[1352] But, so that's the point.

[1353] I already had this conversation with this guy.

[1354] Right.

[1355] About this.

[1356] So I, at least from the perspective of the representative of South by Southwest and the comedy side, it told me directly this happened.

[1357] And then also, as an, as a other note, he said, you know, yeah, we do give comics a hundred bucks, but we don't even talk about it.

[1358] So they pay comics a hundred bucks.

[1359] That's what I found out.

[1360] They don't talk about it.

[1361] Yeah, that's what he said.

[1362] He said, this is not going to bring up.

[1363] Charlie Satello.

[1364] That's a big secret.

[1365] By the way, something's wrong when there's a big secret.

[1366] Were you giving a comic a hundred bucks?

[1367] Yeah, whatever.

[1368] It's so, so, and Charlie Sotelel has seemed like a really nice guy, and I kind of respect him for coming out.

[1369] me and talking to me about it.

[1370] I still completely disagree with him.

[1371] But he came up and he talked to me. Because he had heard your video?

[1372] Yeah.

[1373] He's the one who does the comics for South by Southwest.

[1374] So like it was really cool.

[1375] He wasn't angry.

[1376] He just came up to me and broke it down in his own way from his own paradigm about how it fucking works.

[1377] So anyway.

[1378] And what was his justification for not paying?

[1379] You get a lot out of the festival as a performer.

[1380] It's the, it's, there's two paradigms.

[1381] The paradigms are, the two paradigms are people who pay based on a percentage from the door or some other form of like money compensation and people who feel like they're offering a venue and they're offering the benefits that you get from performing on a show whether it's working out or it's kind of amazing the idea that you know you could have a festival of art and a profitable festival of art and say that the festival is more important that the art that's represented there so the festival should profit but the artists are getting the luxury of performing like this pimp -ass gangster festival.

[1382] It's really amazing.

[1383] I like to play my own devil's advocate.

[1384] South by Southwest is an expensive festival, and a lot of people like seeing bands, and some comics like seeing bands, and we're going to go to South by Southwest anyway, so now they don't have to pay the $700 that you have paid to see everything.

[1385] So there's the justification of that perspective.

[1386] Have you been?

[1387] I've never been.

[1388] But regardless, I feel...

[1389] When is it?

[1390] I don't know.

[1391] you know what we should do we should just book the cap city comedy club that week if we can if it's not already booked it's probably it's i bet it's already booked i bet it's like something like doug benson or someone tries to get like a year in advance that'd be really fun yeah because doesn't douging all that shit he goes to all those places i don't know yeah he's always he's a wild bachelor character he's out there slinging dick around the country that's what i hear doing shows on 420 in the afternoon on saturdays he's doing what he wants now man it's really fascinating how he's got You know, Doug's got this, you know, this thing where he can show up at, like, a regular club.

[1392] Like, it has a full weekend, and he comes on at 420 in the afternoon, and he does these 420 shows where it's all his fans.

[1393] What about side -boob Sunday?

[1394] How that guy manufactured that?

[1395] Where he gets chicks to send pictures of their side tits.

[1396] Who is this?

[1397] Who are you talking about?

[1398] Doug Benson does that?

[1399] Hell yeah.

[1400] He does?

[1401] Side -boob Sunday?

[1402] Look it up.

[1403] People tweet, like, beautiful hippie chicks tweet.

[1404] They're, like, the pro -cup.

[1405] That's great.

[1406] That's beautiful.

[1407] It's really funny how you look on Twitter, and some porn girls have, like, pick of the day, and you click on it.

[1408] It's them with a giant fucking dick in their mouth and won their ass, and you're like, whoa.

[1409] Yeah.

[1410] Really?

[1411] Just pick of the day?

[1412] That's it?

[1413] No fucking warning at all.

[1414] Like, you've got to go, okay, well, now I know how she's rocking it.

[1415] Because some girls don't ever have that in their Twitter.

[1416] Some strippers might as well be accountants.

[1417] They might as well be working for Denny's.

[1418] You know, they just have like, you know, here's today, this is what I did, da, da, da, da, da.

[1419] But some of those porn girls have, they'll just throw up some wild pictures.

[1420] You got to be NSFW.

[1421] Got to be careful they had done.

[1422] NSFW.

[1423] I love it when people get mad for posting that.

[1424] Not safe for work.

[1425] I'm going to put NSFW, man. Well, that, that work thing.

[1426] That's what we were talking about earlier.

[1427] Are we done with the Brian thing?

[1428] Well, I mean, sort of.

[1429] I mean, we didn't even really go into it.

[1430] What happened was, you in this elevated snippy state, I'll just cut to the chase.

[1431] You called Brian out for something that you believe that he was doing incorrectly with how he was putting on a comedy show.

[1432] And he defended himself and got very upset at you and couldn't believe that you said it on the air.

[1433] And he was really hurt and stormed out of the room.

[1434] And then, you know, we sort of sat around and talked about the importance of comedians getting paid and whether or not that was the right thing to do and what the real issue is.

[1435] and you know it's a there's there's a side to be had on both men's point of view brian's and yours you know there's a side to be had on bryans about the way you presented it that you did it like you were in this elevated state and you were responding to him questioning you in the south by southwest thing and you attacked some people don't know this just to make sure people know i i i told marshall not to upload that audio right away Yeah, I know.

[1436] You're not trying to just, you're not trying to make it more than it already is.

[1437] Right, I didn't want to see more than that.

[1438] Okay.

[1439] And Brian is very upset about it, and, you know, his side of it is that he did pay some people.

[1440] And there's a lot of expenses and then he had to pay for taxes and he's paying for the rent to keep that place open.

[1441] And, you know, to be honest, he probably bid off more than he could chew.

[1442] And he didn't realize how much was involved in not just putting on a podcast where you just.

[1443] being the producer of the podcast, but also running a comedy show at the same time, calling people, booking it, having the comedians show up, putting together a flyer, trying to get people to come, tweeting it, making a big deal over this.

[1444] It's more involved.

[1445] It's not a, like, those guys that, like, do comedy juice or something like that, there's a lot of work involved in that.

[1446] There's mailing lists, and there's, you know, I get their mailing lists all the time, and they're constantly emailing me all the time, asking me to come and perform.

[1447] Like, it's a business for these guys.

[1448] They're trying to, you know, there's a lot of work behind it.

[1449] I think it got away from him.

[1450] and he's corrected it and he's corrected it now and because of this confrontation the good that's come out of it is that the money situation has been taken completely out of his hand so he doesn't have to worry about it anymore which is cool and the shows can still pay for the rent there yeah here's what's not cool and this is the thing it taught me because I've been seeing this in the positive thankfully in my life mostly but what happened was even though it didn't get uploaded at the time it could have Marshall could have been like fuck that I'm not deleting that that's good that's gonna that'll get traffic that's good he could have been an asshole i didn't know i was totally wrong shouldn't have brought it up in a public i shouldn't have brought up in a public way i was totally fucking wrong even if i felt like brian uh confronting me about south by southwest was wrong what i did was so if brian was throwing a negative energy ball my way i grabbed that negative energy ball and tried to stuff it down his throat and i expanded it and tried to stuff it down his throat out of anger i didn't feel good i was angry right right and so then Brian got mad and then the energy ball he exponentially increased the energy ball by having a blowout and saying fuck dug in trussle over and he doesn't do well when he criticized anyway but when he criticized like that in a very confrontational confrontational manner on a podcast it's very upsetting for him right but you know he didn't react there was a bad reactions on both sides neither one of you guys reacted admirably you know if you wanted to look back at yourself and how that whole thing went down you know we're going back and forth at each other where you you know I didn't go that that's the thing man I went back I went back at him once and then I apologize on my podcast and I guess I'm apologizing yeah but good you the initial words that you used were very confrontational in Atlanta yes yes but then how you launched it off was very good you use the words ripping off no I didn't say ripping off I said robbing I said robbing even worse I said he's robbing comedians and that's the fucking wrong word for not paying people.

[1451] When you go back and you listen to it, what do you get out of it?

[1452] Have you listened to it?

[1453] No, I don't want to fucking listen to it because it's anger, man. It's just anger.

[1454] I can only know my side of the street.

[1455] My side of the street when I attacked him, I was pissed.

[1456] You were pissed because you felt that he was incorrectly correcting you and then he was putting his two cents in into an argument that you have that's a very big one.

[1457] It's not just about South by South West, but it's about a lot of other organizations that don't pay the performance.

[1458] Exactly, and I think that the tides are shifting now, and I think that that paradigm where you charge money for a show and don't pay the comics is going to hopefully be gone permanently because what I really liked about the South by Southwest video is that I think it encouraged some comedians to start speaking up.

[1459] And I think artists are very afraid of confrontation and are afraid of speaking up about things that are obviously right.

[1460] Yeah.

[1461] There's a time to speak.

[1462] up and there's a time to not speak up and I think with Brian when I said you're robbing comics that wasn't coming out of some altruistic you know a state of wanting to like be Gandhi and help fucking comics that was coming as like oh you slap me I'm gonna slap you back exactly and so that's wrong that's wrong action that's not skillful that's bad and so I went on my podcast and I and I apologize I'm and I I admitted that that was wrong.

[1463] And also, I think the term robbing is totally wrong because robbing implies that the person that you're, it implies forcefully taking something for someone.

[1464] Whereas if someone goes and does a show at the Ice House and Brian said he's not paying or didn't mention payment, then you're entering into an agreement where you're going to perform for free.

[1465] So it's more of the performers deal.

[1466] Like it's you decided to go and do that.

[1467] So robbing's the wrong word.

[1468] So there's that.

[1469] But watching it explode, you know what I mean?

[1470] Watching the fireball grow bigger and bigger, it's been a huge lesson for me, you know?

[1471] And it really has taught me like, fuck, man, you've got to learn to, if you're angry, and especially your anger is at a friend.

[1472] And even though, like, I think Brian hates my guts permanently now, he was, we've been friends for like, I don't know, seven years.

[1473] He likes to bring up shit that you did, like, eight years.

[1474] years ago when you stabbed me with a pencil you did stab him with a pencil I'm sorry for that that's pretty fucking crazy you know what if I'm sorry that I did that but I'll tell you this let me tell you this I'm a lot less sorry that I stabbed him with a pencil than I am that in a fucking public forum I called him out on something that I should have addressed privately because when I stabbed him with a fucking pencil he got poking my back on an airplane when I'm trying to sleep man and I had to fucking fight back I don't feel bad about that.

[1475] That was retarded.

[1476] Babyish stupid.

[1477] But that was just an instant reaction to being annoyed.

[1478] What happened at The Laughing Skull was using a public forum to address a private issue.

[1479] And I think that that is not fucking cool.

[1480] And the end result of that, even though that podcast didn't get uploaded, is that we've created a fucking Kardashian episode with the Death Squad.

[1481] And that sucks, man. There's a lot of fucking people who've been.

[1482] taking both sides of it taking sides and attacking me or attacking Brian or like all this stuff that ultimately so now what happens this is the fucking thing that happens you watch this thing that started off as a mid -sized negative energy ball turn into a big negative energy ball and then get fucking scattered and spread throughout the fucking internet with people siding up and trying to say hurtful things or saying this person's right that person's wrong this is good that's bad this is why I say simplicity is the most important thing man because it's like ultimately you just have to say I forgive you simplicity is the most important thing man just forgiveness just at some point simplicity is forgiveness no forgiving is a simple act it doesn't have to be complicated it doesn't have to be going into judge Judy mode and stretching out the events to see who was right who was wrong right did you do that why did you do that It's just a simple thing of being like, look, let's stop playing shit ping pong with negative energy.

[1483] Yeah, but it's back what we're talking about earlier about, like, money being needed to keep score.

[1484] Even in fights with friends, there's someone has to be the one who was right, someone has to be the one who was wrong, someone has to be the one who won the argument, someone has to lose.

[1485] It's like when people break up and get divorced and you're like, oh, she won that one, you know.

[1486] She got out of that one pretty good.

[1487] She gets this and out a month, and, you know, that poor fucker guy, he really lost that one.

[1488] It sucks.

[1489] Yeah, it's funny.

[1490] It's weird.

[1491] It's weird, man. And it's all ego -based.

[1492] What's all about our whole society is about achievement, forward progress, you know, treading into new territories and taking them over.

[1493] I mean, it's whether those, yeah, whether it's those actual physical territories, like new lands, or whether it's technological territories, like, you know, new inventions and innovations.

[1494] We're always moving forward.

[1495] So, like, you have to, like, okay, you're out of the relationship.

[1496] How'd you do?

[1497] I did great.

[1498] why I only married that asshole for three years and he has to give me a million dollars, you know?

[1499] Look, man, you know, like, so I think, uh, I don't have anything else to say about that.

[1500] Right.

[1501] I think I'm done talking about that, but I do want to say something.

[1502] Well, he, his, in his defense, his, uh, what, what he's upset about more than the fact that you brought up on the podcast and did it like that and threw him under the bus, that even in your apology, you still said that he wasn't paying the comedians.

[1503] And he did pay some of the comedians.

[1504] Right.

[1505] You know, and apparently, you know, I, you know, I, you know, I, wasn't really, I told him it'd be a good idea to pay the comedians but we never really had too many conversations about who got paid and who didn't.

[1506] It was up to his discretion.

[1507] Right, okay, so.

[1508] So Little Lester, Tom Seguer, some people got Berg -Crasher, some people got paid.

[1509] And some didn't.

[1510] And some didn't.

[1511] You know, but there was different shows where there wasn't that many seats that were sold.

[1512] You know, when he did his own shows, there were shows that weren't that successful.

[1513] Okay, right, okay.

[1514] So what this turns into at this point is like real fucking, like, like to me it's like I guess so like if the apology is not correct then basically what we've created now is a situation where it's like you didn't submit to me properly you know what I mean I don't I don't like okay I know you play fucking Kat Stevens peace train and said that you were my friend you know what I mean like like I know that you did that but you didn't do it in exactly the right way and then if that happens then it's like okay then what you didn't do this and I didn't do now all of a sudden shit ping pong's happening again shit ping pong you know what I mean and it's like fuck man like isn't like the isn't like the the best thing to do to like number one address this situation and I'm addressing it publicly now because it was brought into the public form it isn't the best thing to do to address it privately isn't that the number one like best best way to handle it and number two well it wasn't his fault it was made public it was really my fault I was explaining to Ari why you guys were in an argument.

[1515] And, you know, in the middle of a podcast, you're just talking.

[1516] I didn't really stop and think whether or not this is a smart thing to re -expose.

[1517] Right.

[1518] But you must be upset about how it happened.

[1519] And I know how I feel after every sort of yelling argument that I've ever been in in my life.

[1520] No, it was really intense to, like, see someone saying, fuck Duncan Trussell in front of possibly half a million people.

[1521] that felt really weird because I um you know like it's tough for me to imagine a situation where I would be angry enough to like try to publicly disparage somebody in that intense a way you know what I mean I just I wouldn't I don't think I'd do that unless I was really fucking pissed so yeah feast train we're gonna make it all work out bro well that's my that's what I know it's all gonna come together Peace train, brother.

[1522] What a silly bitch.

[1523] This peace train asshole became a Muslim.

[1524] He fucking blew it.

[1525] No, Muslims are some Muslims are okay.

[1526] Oh, yeah, but he was calling for Sama and Rushdie to be killed.

[1527] Okay, so he got off a peace train.

[1528] He's crazy.

[1529] He got off a peace train.

[1530] He was talking about how the Quran says that Sama and Rushdie has got to go.

[1531] Gotta go, got to go.

[1532] Didn't he recently make a little comeback?

[1533] Ran out of cash.

[1534] Had a little bit of a comeback.

[1535] I saw him playing, but he's Yusuf Islam now.

[1536] The attack on song.

[1537] It's very sad.

[1538] Yeah.

[1539] That is a sweet song, man. He's got a lot of great songs.

[1540] He's got some beautiful songs, man. He's obviously an incredibly sensitive guy.

[1541] But back to the whole situation.

[1542] I think you have to treat your friends the way you treat someone that you love like a wife.

[1543] You know, you can't insult them.

[1544] You can't lash out of them.

[1545] You can't do it.

[1546] It's a shitty thing when it happens, and you got to make it all better after it's over.

[1547] And you've got to really truly feel bad about it, and you've got to really truly sort of correct yourself and make sure that you never put yourself into such a situation of almost like verbal combat with a brother, you know?

[1548] Yes.

[1549] Brian for sure has some maturing to do.

[1550] And I think he's aware of it himself, and he started out at a different time than we did.

[1551] He's a good dude, though, man. I've been with Brian for a long time.

[1552] We've worked together for like a decade.

[1553] He's a good dude, man. He's got a lot of man. child in him but that's that's part of what makes him funny yeah that's part of what makes him unique and p .s here's the fucking thing no one needs to be attacking anybody exactly nobody there's no bad guys there's no need for there to be an enemy involved here it's crazy yeah there's no there's like there's just it's like what we've got going on here with this whatever you want to call it the death squads podcast our podcast is an emergent art form that's incredibly beautiful and all of us are contributing to it in our own way and a lot of people seem really invested in it and a lot of people seem authentically upset by this fight and and and so i think like out of respect for this whatever this weird fucking thing is that we're building here we've got to like learn how to uh forgive each other and to let bygones be bygones because otherwise the community that we're forming is weak you know and then and then in a weak fucking thing's going to fall apart you know you need i think you need blowouts like this I would prefer for them to happen in private but I think in this case it got into the public eye fine the fact that it is in the public eye creates even more of a reason to resolve it in a civilized way that doesn't mean somebody gets hurt or somebody gets fucking excommunicated or somebody gets like permanently mad it means that because if we can't figure it out if we can't figure out to resolve something as silly as this then how can we fucking talk about stop dropping bombs you know what I mean how can we stick when that's what that is in the macro right you know what I mean and that's why I think it takes at some point if you look at the back and forth that happened in war it's somebody did this to someone and then they did something back and then they did something back bigger and they did something back bigger it goes on forever at some point you just have to be like I'm sorry I forgive you I'm sorry and that's it and that's when brand goes fuck don't get trust of it.

[1554] Right.

[1555] Yeah, I know, man. That's the fucking, but, but you know what?

[1556] It's like, you can only handle your side of the street.

[1557] Right.

[1558] You know what I mean?

[1559] That's all that you could do.

[1560] You can only handle your side of fucking things.

[1561] That's all you can do.

[1562] That's it.

[1563] Yeah.

[1564] You know, I think all of us get caught up in life and stress and shit and this and that.

[1565] And there's words that come out of your mouth that are poorly chosen.

[1566] There's, there's ideas that are expressed selfishly.

[1567] You know, we all make mistakes, especially when you're fucking busy.

[1568] You're, you know, not getting enough sleep.

[1569] Real stressed out always in the middle of a million different things like I know you are and I certainly am People make mistakes people make a lot of fucking mistakes You got to know when you've been friends with someone for a long time the essence of who that person is You know you got a got to be a nice guy both when you are in charge and when you are the employee Or the the person has to listen follow directions whether you're the fan or whether you're the performer with either the police officer or the guy who has to talk to the cop because his car got stolen.

[1570] You know, who their fuck?

[1571] You know, we have to figure out a way to always communicate with respect.

[1572] It's just so hard to develop a human being that's completely and totally honest that we live in this world of maybes and half -truths and bullshit and lies.

[1573] And then behind the lies, there's things that are true, but make no sense like legislation and laws.

[1574] And all of it adds up to be this really confusing, frustrating, unfair feeling of life in general just as a pattern of your whole fucking situation.

[1575] But all of it, all of it can be cured by the simple truth that we have to start treating each other as if we are treating ourselves living another life.

[1576] If we are all this one thing that is born into this world in various circumstances and various biological situations in various states of the world and various various climates, but at the soul of it all, behind the sex and behind the height and the weight and the essence of what a fucking human being is, it could just be easily you.

[1577] You could be that guy.

[1578] You could be this guy.

[1579] What you are stripped of culture and language, and what I am is the same thing.

[1580] I'm just going through this in a completely different ride with a totally different flesh vehicle, and we happen to see each other along the journey, and we become friends and united in our struggle together and enhanced each other.

[1581] But at the end of the day, we're the same fucking thing.

[1582] And once we realize that I'm the same as some poor fuck that was born in Afghanistan and is living in the cave, I'm the same as that guy.

[1583] I just got a way better roll of the dice and I was born in New Jersey.

[1584] You know what I'm saying?

[1585] I mean the only way we're ever going to get over this hump of existence is if we drop all the bullshit and the one law that we should all recognize.

[1586] The one thing that we should all practice is the ideal that you are me and I am you.

[1587] And we are living completely different lives, but inside the body, inside, the meaning of what it is when you think of you, I could easily be you.

[1588] I could easily be my mother.

[1589] I could easily be this asshole that lives down the street from me that I can't talk to because he's dumb.

[1590] It could be this guy.

[1591] I could be that guy.

[1592] I could have been bored here.

[1593] It's just some crazy situation where we may all be the very same thing living through.

[1594] different epochs, living through different biological identities, living through different genetics and different social circumstances, but at the root of it all, we could be the same fucking thing, and we essentially are.

[1595] We essentially are.

[1596] It's our own individual experiences that confuse the fuck out of us.

[1597] If we really started treating people like that, if you really looked at the world like that, and it doesn't always mean that you're going to give that person everything they want, because then you could spoil you.

[1598] Well, that's right.

[1599] I mean, you can't be phony about it yeah you know what I mean like you got to like you have to address it from a real place you can't be phony but if you if it if you have as an intention in dealing with conflict which everyone's gonna have wanting a resolution that wanting not just a resolution but an evolution yeah that's it if that's your fucking intention behind it it's gonna work out great it's gonna work out okay you it might be turbulent it might be weird, but if that's your intention, then it's a lot different than the intention being, I'm going to win this, I'm going to conquer, I'm going to be the one who comes out on top.

[1600] That only creates more shit ping pong and more negativity in the world.

[1601] That's the thing that we've got to deal with and this thing with Brian and I'm sure everyone's got an example of this happening in their life or will have it.

[1602] Deal with it in a way that's like accelerating the community, making the community stronger, making the community, um, More, more, how about just the less carmic impact?

[1603] Yeah.

[1604] You know, that's outside of all that, I mean, get complicated and start really ultra -defining everything as far, doing it for the community.

[1605] But just do what feels like the healthiest thing to do.

[1606] What's the healthiest thing to do?

[1607] Drop all the problems.

[1608] Drop all the bullshit.

[1609] Just drop it.

[1610] It's done.

[1611] Drop it.

[1612] And learn from it and never be that guy again.

[1613] You know, we have to accept that this is a try -on -er sort of a situation.

[1614] life, especially the generation that you and I come from, you know, you in your 30s, me and my 40s, we're essentially one of the first generations to be awake.

[1615] We're one of the first generations to use the internet and to sort of exchange so much information back and forth with each other that we're kind of reformulating our idea of how the world works.

[1616] You know, I mean, we don't really necessarily trust our parents that brought us into this thing.

[1617] We don't necessarily trust our parents' parents to have a full sort of an account of what, what really is going on in this life, biologically, physically, geopolitically, we are one of the first generations to truly have a decent grasp of it because of our use of the internet.

[1618] So a lot of what we're doing as adults is essentially trying to re -govern our own culture to re -figure out how we're communicating with each other.

[1619] If the New York Giants fans really want to beat the fuck out of the Raiders and they don't even know them, isn't there something wrong with that?

[1620] Like, could that not be us on another side of the country?

[1621] I mean, do you not understand that?

[1622] You really want to go and, you know, you go to a fucking ballgame in Philly and they break your leg in the hallway because you're wearing the wrong shirt.

[1623] Like, that stuff happens.

[1624] Yeah.

[1625] That's you, man. That's you on the ground, living a different life, and you just stomped on your thigh bone and snapped it.

[1626] You know, and that is, that's a really unfortunate aspect of life, this sort of a tribal thing that, you know, might have existed in that book, the road, in that movie.

[1627] Yeah.

[1628] You know, and what could happen if the shit hits the fan.

[1629] But what we have to understand is the shit's not hitting the fan right now.

[1630] It's not hitting the fan at all.

[1631] This is nothing like the shit that's the fan.

[1632] There's a guy that I was mentioning earlier that was talking about how life right now that we're unhappy, but yet we live very much like kings and emperors, you know, did 100 years ago, which I thought was really stupid because, first of all, the idea of we don't live anything like an emperor.

[1633] You don't have a harem.

[1634] You can't order them around.

[1635] You can't have people killed if they talk shit.

[1636] You don't have people carrying you around on a giant tray everywhere you go.

[1637] Also, you're not eating rancid fucking meat.

[1638] Yeah.

[1639] You're not dying from whooping cough because nobody knows what the fuck it is.

[1640] And they think you got possessed by a demon.

[1641] That was always the thing.

[1642] Yeah, those silly fucks.

[1643] Dude, can I tell you about something?

[1644] I don't know how long I've been doing this, but please, can you look something up, dude?

[1645] Yeah, sure.

[1646] augmented reality sandbox augmented reality sandbox look up this fucking thing what is it speaking of living in the best it's an Xbox connect set up over a sandbox for the projector blasting flowing water into it so as you like move your finger through the sandbox like water flows around and like grass forms it's like the future of video games man especially with this new quantum sand that apparently computers can like construct into shapes that they're talking about did you find it Yeah, dude.

[1647] What the fuck is this, man?

[1648] It's fucking badass.

[1649] So explain it one more time, please?

[1650] It is an Xbox Connect that somehow detecting changes in the terrain of the sandbox and projecting water and grass and sand over different parts of it, I think, based on how high or how low the sand is.

[1651] So if you, like, go really, like, if you hold your hand over, it makes water appear running through the sandbox.

[1652] and if you run your fingers through it I think water appears as though there's like water under the sand like at the beach You know when my fucking computer runs slow as shit Probably when you're streaming a podcast Yeah when I'm streaming a podcast What's that about?

[1653] Well it's because I guess there's only a certain amount of bandwidth That's weak Is it really that hard to make a podcast folks I know Every time I try to go online it's slug -like I'm sorry so I was looking that up augmented reality i'm trying to pull up the youtube video just so fucking it's really slow here so cool it's just okay now i'm looking at it wow and so how does it work uh and the xbox connect i think identifies distances i don't know how it works people have it's so you're drawing in the sandbox yeah and then as you scoop up sand the sandbox it it's showing on a projection screen it's projecting directly onto the sand.

[1654] From above.

[1655] Yeah.

[1656] He's projecting changes and colors.

[1657] It looks very psychedelic.

[1658] It's super psychedelic.

[1659] You could trip a kid out.

[1660] Make a kid make sand castles and that shit.

[1661] Fuck the kid, man. It's next level.

[1662] Next level sandcastles.

[1663] Until they project StarCraft on that fucking thing.

[1664] I'm gone.

[1665] I'm gone.

[1666] Speaking of StarCraft, rather, every day in my life is just like downtime until Prometheus comes out.

[1667] I'm just like, I would like to clone Ridley Scott and give him an infinite budget and just give him all the acid and mushrooms he needs and him and H .R. Geiger and just lock him in a little together and just make a million alien movies.

[1668] Dude, I've been thinking about, I swear to God, I've been thinking about inducing a coma just to wake up and be able to go to Prometheus.

[1669] I can't fucking wait.

[1670] That movie looks so awesome, dude.

[1671] I know.

[1672] It's so dorkalicious.

[1673] Yeah, I can't wait.

[1674] It's like I was saying about this, my lust, go see the Avengers.

[1675] I feel like I'm getting away with something.

[1676] I really do.

[1677] I'm going to bring the Mustang, too.

[1678] The stupidest fucking kid car that I had.

[1679] It's fucking, I have a Shelby GT -500.

[1680] It's just really loud, super American car.

[1681] It's so American, man. Everything about it.

[1682] They don't make another car.

[1683] No one in the rest of the world makes a car like a Shelby Mustang.

[1684] Slides all over the place.

[1685] It's really, it handles pretty well, considering.

[1686] I went and test drove cars yesterday.

[1687] Man, they're so fucking nice after you've been driving around an 89 Volvo.

[1688] I love cars.

[1689] The cars are my number one technological thrill, like the thing that I enjoy the most.

[1690] I just love the craftsmanship.

[1691] I love how someone's created something.

[1692] I love the different philosophies behind cars, like the high -reving cars of Germany or like the deep, low -tork muscle cars of America.

[1693] I just, I think they're fascinating to me. They're moving works of art that they sell.

[1694] You know, like, if you buy a new Corvette, like, there's a lot of people that think Corvettes are duchy because a lot of douchebags drive Corvettes.

[1695] But corvettes are fucking amazing.

[1696] It's an amazing piece of construction and engineering.

[1697] Dude, but isn't that a funny thing where, like, because people think they're supposed to think it's not cool?

[1698] An object can get a douchebaggish reputation, and thus if you're with that object.

[1699] Sorry.

[1700] What is that?

[1701] My fucking phone.

[1702] Sorry.

[1703] You have a horn?

[1704] You ridiculous motherfucker.

[1705] It's a forest horn.

[1706] Oh, okay.

[1707] Turn that shit on mute, son.

[1708] I don't know how.

[1709] There's a little thing on the side of it.

[1710] I won't turn down all the way.

[1711] It goes to vibrate, stupid.

[1712] The thing on the side.

[1713] Up above, where your fingers are.

[1714] Where your fuck finger is.

[1715] See that?

[1716] I have a fuck finger.

[1717] That finger right there, man. Jesus Christ, you retarded?

[1718] There's a little lever on the top of the side of your phone.

[1719] The top of the side.

[1720] You see that?

[1721] Yeah, that shuts it to vibrate, you fuck.

[1722] Oh, that changed my life.

[1723] Oh, you are so retarded.

[1724] I didn't know that.

[1725] All the shit.

[1726] How do you not know how to fucking turn your vibrator on?

[1727] Seriously, man, at night, that fucking horn's been waking me out.

[1728] Oh, my God, you idiot.

[1729] Oh, my God, you idiot.

[1730] You didn't know that?

[1731] How the fuck do you have an iPhone and not know where the vibrate button is?

[1732] Duncan, you make me sad.

[1733] Sorry, man. You fucking just changed my life, man. That fucking thing can bother me nonstop.

[1734] Dude, I've been looking at some of these Android phones they have now.

[1735] I know I get like lusty envy with certain phones, but one of them I've been looking at is this galaxy note.

[1736] I've been watching videos.

[1737] And one of the things that everybody keeps saying is once you get this thing, it's really hard to go back to a regular phone because it's five inches wide and it's 4G.

[1738] It's wicked fast.

[1739] It's a crazy fast processor.

[1740] And I'm watching these people use it and play with it and take pictures with it and draw on a picture like you write like stupid and you could send it in an email or send it in a text message and browsing the internet I mean it's fucking huge man it's five inches yeah man I feel like the little screen on the iPhone it's not enough I think it gives you eye strain it's bad I think it fucks up your eyes this thing is better this fucking thing's better I may switch I may switch from the iPhone there's no I'll never switch from the iPhone you say that man but these new ice cream sandwich Google phones are pretty fucking complicated man they're really badass never taking that risk again really kiss my ass I had a fucking, I had an Android for so long.

[1741] They're not like those old Android, though.

[1742] I picked up a shit Android once.

[1743] I had a shit Android for one day, and I was like, this is a drunk, retarded iPhone.

[1744] It was really bad.

[1745] That's right.

[1746] This is perfect.

[1747] But these aren't like that.

[1748] These new ones are not like that.

[1749] This new operating system is called Ice Cream Sandwich, and apparently it's the shit.

[1750] And the new Samsung Galaxy 3, that's another one that just came out in England.

[1751] I don't think it's out in America yet.

[1752] That's another huge one.

[1753] It's like 4 .8 inch screen, enormous screen.

[1754] Not quite as big as the note.

[1755] The note is like 5 plus, I think 5, 3.

[1756] But it's a huge screen.

[1757] And like when you touch the outside of it, it ripples, like water.

[1758] It's like it's got the effect that there's water on it.

[1759] When you rub your hand across it, it takes a snapshot of the screen.

[1760] Like, that's how you have to do.

[1761] It's like you're a magician.

[1762] You do that.

[1763] They're badass, man. Yeah.

[1764] Which is going to lead to a lot of accidental screenshots.

[1765] People are going to be fucking, drop their phone.

[1766] the ground and it looks like it's a swipe but really it's just passing by a dick and take pictures of ball sacks and all kinds of unexpected shit all kinds of what's the word you're looking for candid candid adult shot random vagina shots what happened this is an adult screenshots yeah there's a lot of the cameras view dude my you know what I'm afraid of man I'm afraid that like what's here's what's going to happen this is what I think's going to happen to me when I get conspiratorial and worry about the crazy shit we talk about on here.

[1767] I think one day the feds are going to come.

[1768] They're going to take me, they're going to do the old Bill Hicks thing where they take you into a room.

[1769] But instead of showing a video of an assassination, they're going to show a screen filled with MOVs and me jerking off in front of my fucking Mac.

[1770] In front of your camera.

[1771] And next to it, the different things I was jerking off too.

[1772] And they're going to show me that and be like, hey man, you want to keep saying the hippie shit?

[1773] You want to keep talking about that?

[1774] Because look, I want to keep talking, hippie boy.

[1775] Hey, what's this?

[1776] What's this?

[1777] Is this German piss porn, Duncan, that you are looking at?

[1778] Is it possible to convert the entire government into a positive force?

[1779] Is it possible to have people that are really looking out to do the right thing and get it all together?

[1780] Or is the job of working for the government so fucking unrewarding and boring that everyone just falls into a place of non -innovation, non -responsibility thinking, the diffusion of responsibility that comes to the corporation also falls upon you when you're in government.

[1781] It's just, it seems so futile, it seems so huge, it seems so impassable that you just sort of give up and come, just become a part of the wave.

[1782] Dude, I think right now, it's, I don't know how you fix it.

[1783] So, like, all I can think about is, like, in the micro, you fix it.

[1784] And if every, if the majority of people start improving their lives and the lives of people around them and actively seeking to put positive energy out in the world, then maybe that'll sort of transform the government itself in a real way.

[1785] But as long as people are getting caught up, worrying about the macro and thinking that everything's coming to a screeching halt and everything's fucked up and they might as well just live like idiots and give up trying to be happy, then shit will continue to perpetuate itself in a negative way.

[1786] So I think the idea is it's like, yeah, things are fucked up.

[1787] the world, Nancy Grace's world is a shitty fucking world but let's not worry about Lynn, Linise, Linu, got strangled in the Everglades and let's start worrying about the way that we're treating our fucking wife or our friends or our kids or whatever and deal with that.

[1788] And then if enough people started doing that, I think a big change would happen in the world, man. You can definitely change.

[1789] Look, everybody can change their own environment by surrounding yourself with other people that are like -minded.

[1790] That is possible.

[1791] And that's one of the things that I think that this podcast does.

[1792] We've talked about this before, but it's important to recognize that we're aware of this, that this is not something that existed when we were young.

[1793] We didn't have access to people that were just for sort of with no real, I mean, there's no, I want to say no obligation, there's no real direction that we're trying to go with us.

[1794] We were just trying to express ourselves 100 % honestly.

[1795] There's no ulterior motive.

[1796] There's no, there's no there's no deception it's just this is this is how we really view the world and when you're stuck somewhere and you don't have people like that around you this is the only way you can get that and through this it allows people to connect light mind like minded people to connect through Twitter and through Facebook and whatever and they seek each other out and all improve the actual environment they live in and then it starts these exponential changes all over the world that's the only way in my opinion wherever change any government anyway.

[1797] It's expose them to new ideas that are more satisfying than the stupid dumb conqueror model that they've been using since before the days of Genghis Khan.

[1798] That's it, man. And we've got to figure that out.

[1799] We have to figure out what that looks like.

[1800] Well, that looks like the internet.

[1801] That's what it looks like.

[1802] It's like Reddit.

[1803] The internet is the only thing that, exactly.

[1804] The internet is the only thing that doesn't want to hear your bullshit.

[1805] You know, there's isolated pockets.

[1806] There's isolated, you know, places where you can go, like stormfront websites and and we can just go hang out with only Nazis.

[1807] And, you know, you know what I mean?

[1808] I mean, there are a lot of those out there.

[1809] You could just do that.

[1810] But the overwhelming social network interaction, the overwhelming experience seems to be the distribution of information.

[1811] You know, good and bad, you know, good and bad.

[1812] But the distribution of information, the exposure of reality.

[1813] Yeah, it's incredible, man. And it's like definitely, if you look back at history and the way power is always fought to subvers, the flow of information and suddenly there's a thing that is like a truth volcano and there's no way to put a fucking cork on it.

[1814] No, dude, if we had this, if this was a radio show and we were in 1960 and this was a pirate radio show they'd put us in jail.

[1815] Oh yeah.

[1816] They would come after us and put us in jail.

[1817] There's a giant difference between the world of post -1993 which is really sort of one of the first years of the internet being like a public entity that I can remember and maybe it happened a few years before that for the real hardcore guys like the real hardcore geeks.

[1818] But For me, 1993 is about what I'm and that's a, that's a different fucking era.

[1819] They might as well been, you mean, before that, there was no cell phones either.

[1820] All that happened at the same time as well, you know, essentially in a few years post, you know, it all kind of bubbled together into one big sort of a communicative soup.

[1821] Yeah, man, it's incredible.

[1822] And it's also incredible how positive it can be.

[1823] Can be, yeah.

[1824] This, yeah, this, but this is more positive for us, you know, for sure.

[1825] more positive at the shows, more people enjoying themselves.

[1826] We're having shows that we've never had before.

[1827] So the kind of shows we're having where we're going, thousands of people are there, and the thousands of people are screaming and having fun, and this is just massive bursts of positive energy.

[1828] Well, that massive burst of positive energy all came out of doing something like this, doing this podcast, connecting with all those people out there, filling their head with something to think about while they're working, while they're doing mundane tasks, where they're commuting, all of it for free, all of it without an agenda and all of that you see what it does it spreads out more positivity and it makes you want to write more shit and it makes you want to perform more comedy and have more material for them and do more shows and it fucking rocks your consciousness when the freaks contact you and say hey listen I'm a thelomite I'm a disciple of Crowley hey why don't you check out this book book four and then you order all right I'll fucking get book four and then you're reading Crowley and suddenly you're like like, holy fucking shit.

[1829] This is some intense shit here.

[1830] Some of this is right on and real.

[1831] Or that guy, Matt Staggs from Disinfo.

[1832] I love you.

[1833] He sent me all these fucking books.

[1834] I've been reading these books and getting stone and reading these books and just start shuddering and stoner.

[1835] Like, are you fucking getting the Catholic Church?

[1836] All this shit.

[1837] Oh, yeah.

[1838] I'm upset over the Catholic Church is all coming from this one fucking book that he sent to me. And that's the other cool thing.

[1839] Just get, if you don't know about this info, just go out and get your being.

[1840] lied to.

[1841] Yeah.

[1842] It's amazing.

[1843] They're amazing.

[1844] It's amazing.

[1845] Anybody says there's no conspiracies is a fucking idiot.

[1846] Because like as we were talking about with 9 -11, there had to be a conspiracy on the enemy side.

[1847] So there are conspiracies in human nature and they do pull things off.

[1848] And if you don't think they have in the past, you're being silly.

[1849] You're being incredibly silly.

[1850] That's how it runs.

[1851] Yeah, but yeah, it's there's obviously conspiracies.

[1852] There needs to be conspiracies.

[1853] How about every time you fucking, I mean, yeah, There's many conspiracies and huge conspiracies.

[1854] Anyway.

[1855] The whole point is what we have going on here is not a one -sided thing.

[1856] We've got a conversation happening with these people.

[1857] We're connecting with people.

[1858] And that's why it's so cool to do those things we do after the show.

[1859] We go out and take pictures of people for fucking hours.

[1860] For hours.

[1861] We just go wait out into the crowd and take pictures.

[1862] So fun.

[1863] That's what I'm talking about.

[1864] Yeah.

[1865] And these people are overwhelmingly cool.

[1866] Overwhelmingly cool.

[1867] I I yeah 99 .9 .99 .99 yeah and even the ones on our cool are just fucking probably just freaking out the ones who aren't cool are just a little too drunk I've noticed this is a little bit of that yeah fucking poor drunks sad bitches yeah but it's uh it's other than that it's been overwhelmingly positive and that all came from this one thing you know it all it all it all came from this one idea this desire to express yourself and express information and discuss things and to force ourselves to have these conversations on a regular basis.

[1868] And Duncan and I, we started having these conversations when he was working at the comedy store.

[1869] Exactly.

[1870] Very similar.

[1871] That's how we became friends.

[1872] Duncan was the guy who you'd call in.

[1873] He'd say, hey, man, I'm going to be in town Friday and Saturday.

[1874] Throw me up.

[1875] And Duncan would, you know, he would write down the lineups and give him to Mitzie, and Mitzie would decide like where to put everybody.

[1876] So Duncan may not call him up.

[1877] Hey, man, I'm going to be in town Friday.

[1878] What's going on?

[1879] I'm like, dude, I just read this book, okay?

[1880] and we would go into these crazy fucking rabbit hole conversations because sometimes the phone wouldn't ring at the comedy store for an hour you know so you and I would just keep talking we would just have long ass crazy conversations about all kinds of weird shit yeah man but you know like you you pretty much gave me like my big break because you started taking me out on the road with you when I sucked you know you always had potential You know, it wasn't that.

[1881] You saw that.

[1882] Yeah.

[1883] And that meant a lot.

[1884] Because, like, having, like, you be like, hey, man, like, I can remember, I'll never forget this shit, man. I can remember being in the OR and doing this joke, I don't even do it anymore.

[1885] But it was like, being in a bad relationship is like having an octopus stuck to your face that everyone's all whispers to you.

[1886] Do you still love me?

[1887] There's some dumb joke.

[1888] But I remember, like, you saw that.

[1889] And after it, you were like, that was fucking funny, man. And I was like, whoa, holy shit.

[1890] man, Rogan thinks that joke's funny.

[1891] That was a big moment, man. You really do help, like, a lot of young comics, man. You help a lot of fucking, you, like, really have, like, a sort of patron thing happening with people.

[1892] Well, that's nice, if that's true.

[1893] I love comedy, man. It's still my favorite thing to watch as an audience member.

[1894] You know, I think it's the greatest art film there is.

[1895] As far as me, you know, like, what it entertains me, I just love watching a good comic more than anything.

[1896] So, you know, I love, like, helping.

[1897] I love watching guys become killers.

[1898] I remember watching Ari Shafir go from being a guy who was kind of a little bit uncomfortable on stage trying to find his feet to one day, you know, just slowly but surely becoming a killer.

[1899] And now I just watch, obviously I've seen Ari crush in front of thousands of people.

[1900] And I remember taking him on the road with me. I remember I took him to Denver.

[1901] I was taking Mike Young.

[1902] Mike Young couldn't make it for some reason.

[1903] So it took Ari, and Ari just fucking lit the place on fire.

[1904] And I was like, God damn, look at Ali Shafir.

[1905] all of a sudden he's a real comedian it's beautiful it's beautiful to watch your friends grow and prosper and become real comedians you would fucking encourage me to do the puppet act in fucking crowds that it could never work like just do it no fuck them man just do it that's your bit it was awesome but a lot of a lot of comments who are bringing people on the road with them would not recommend before their sets be like hey dude do that fucking really uncomfortable satanic puppet act right so that I come out because I want to see what it's like to come out to a horrified crowd not just a crowd that's like like seeing someone bomb but a crowd that's like maybe seen like either someone who's a schizophrenic or like a satanic ritual well you know I mean I had this conversation with Ari once on the road we were talking about trying out new stuff and bombing or you know or what have you You know, like the willingness to take chances, and then sometimes it doesn't work out.

[1906] And he said, yeah, but sometimes, you know, you go on the road and you don't want to take those chances.

[1907] I said, well, you don't have to worry about that because you're open enough for me. Right.

[1908] So, like, it doesn't matter if you bomb.

[1909] Oh, yeah.

[1910] You never going to get fired.

[1911] Yeah.

[1912] I know that you're a funny comedian.

[1913] Yeah, that's cool.

[1914] As long as you're trying to be, when I wouldn't have that feeling is when someone wasn't trying to get better.

[1915] Right.

[1916] You know, there are people that just get to a certain point, and they just come.

[1917] completely plateau and then they redo the same jokes for a decade.

[1918] I mean, we all know comics that are like that.

[1919] I have no desire to be around those type of people.

[1920] But the type of guys like you or like Ari or anybody who is improving and always working on your stand -up, I was like, go fuck around up there, man. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't matter.

[1921] It doesn't matter.

[1922] It's all about developing.

[1923] Oh, dude, but you don't necessarily tip -tow around the fact and some of our jokes don't work out.

[1924] You've got to be honest about that, but I want you to be honest to me, too.

[1925] I mean, Eddie Bravo said to me once, goes, man, I don't like that joke you're doing.

[1926] And I said, yeah, I'm kind of forcing it, right?

[1927] I'm like, yeah, thank you for telling me that.

[1928] Thank you, because I'm fucking forcing that joke.

[1929] That was a joke that I had, like, kept in my arsenal that I had committed to for whatever reason.

[1930] It just wasn't good.

[1931] No, that kind of shit helps, man. That's it.

[1932] Fuck, yeah, man. You need to know.

[1933] You need to know when you're being repetitive.

[1934] You need to know when you overuse the word fuck and you make for an uncomfortable moment when someone's listening to you.

[1935] you're doing when you're on stage is you're essentially controlling the pattern of thought that goes through someone's mind because you're going to bring up various topics and various subjects to put various images and feelings in people and you have to get them to appreciate where your mind is coming from well if you're adding in a bunch of extra fucks or you're stammering or you're coming off like a goof which oftentimes we do especially on this podcast when we got too high like I couldn't remember the young turk thing earlier so we go into stammer mode but no one wants to listen to that and then allow you to continue controlling the pattern of thought.

[1936] That's why it's an uncomfortable moment.

[1937] That uncomfortable moment is the realization that you, at that moment, you shouldn't be in control.

[1938] And unfortunately you are because there's only two people in the room.

[1939] Regardless of the fact that a half a million people are going to listen to this, there's only two people in the room.

[1940] Two people, sometimes I've gone on stage and fucking forgotten what's about to come out of my mouth.

[1941] That's the worst thing where you're like in the middle of something.

[1942] That's happened to me a couple of times where I'm like too high and I'm like, shit.

[1943] Can I do this?

[1944] joke?

[1945] You've got to be careful.

[1946] Well, you know what sucks when you do more than one show in a night?

[1947] Yeah, and then you get really confused.

[1948] Well, because when you do more than one show, what happens is there's a state of mind when you're on stage, which is like, let's just consider it getting on the trolley and sitting in the same seat.

[1949] Okay, you get on the trolley, you're in that same seat.

[1950] That is the state of mind that you're at when you're on stage.

[1951] Like, I'm in this driver's seat and here we go, I'm on the trolley.

[1952] well when you're on the trolley again for the second show and especially if you do it like I do it where I don't really have necessarily a particular order I think I have an idea probably how I'm going to close but I don't know how the fuck I'm going to open and I might go from here to there and I might jump all over the place and when I do that then I can get lost and say I don't remember if I did this one already dude it's really easy to lose your focus up there but thank God it doesn't happen all the time you know I just realized this two -man thing a problem I got a fucking piss dude Go piss, let's wrap this up We've been talking for two hours Should we wrap it up now?

[1953] In 50 minutes Yeah, let's wrap it up now So I think to wrap up the Bryant thing You know, I think we all learned a little something from this And I think, yeah, online feuds and just spats And all that stuff is just bitch shit Yeah, let's forget.

[1954] Water over the bridge.

[1955] It's gross.

[1956] See you're done?

[1957] Bye, bye, bye.

[1958] You're going to have to have a city of levitation to lift yourself Water under the bridge.

[1959] Above this life.

[1960] We need to get you back in the isolation tank.

[1961] I got to get in there.

[1962] Can I plug something?

[1963] Plug the fuck out of it, son.

[1964] We're doing pre -sales for the first time ever in my life as a comedian.

[1965] Oh, my goodness.

[1966] I've started selling T -shirts.

[1967] We're doing pre -sales for T -shirts at the shop at Douglasl .com.

[1968] They're awesome.

[1969] One of them is a pyramid killing a fucking vampire.

[1970] I've seen it.

[1971] It's pretty dope.

[1972] If they order pre -sale, how long is it before the shirt will actually ship?

[1973] We're going to put the order in on the 15th.

[1974] So then how long it will be until they actually get it?

[1975] It's on the side.

[1976] I think it'll be a couple of weeks.

[1977] A couple of weeks.

[1978] You can handle it.

[1979] weeks folks give you something look forward to if you get them now it's 20 bucks and if you wait it's a $2 extra and you can't do oh that's Duncan you're crazy you're a marketing genius how I like how you do you give them a penalty my web guy Steve came up with that that guy sounds like a creep no he's an awesome guy no he loves this show gimmicky motherfucker yeah he's great just kidding I can't help myself I love you Steve you're the greatest Steve I don't even know you and I love you but you are me and I'm you we're already established that Hallah we'll be doing more podcast this week I'm not sure who I'm working out the next couple ones this week but more red band as well don't worry we'll bring my little buddy back into the mix and so I want to thank everybody that came to New York this past weekend we had the fucking time of our lives I mean you can't get better than that I played it yesterday I played the audio of Joey Diaz going on stage people didn't hear it Oh my God it was insane I'll pull it up again just because it's so ridiculous It doesn't go ahead When you go piss I'll play this because I played it from Mrs. Rogan and she almost didn't believe it.

[1980] It really doesn't seem real.

[1981] This is Joey Cocoa Diaz going on stage in New York.

[1982] He hasn't even had a chance to say a word yet.

[1983] He had a stop -down.

[1984] It was just crazy.

[1985] It really represents to all of us some sort of a real obvious paradigm shift.

[1986] and I can speak for every one of us for Joey, for Ari, for Duncan we're very, very thankful that all this is happening and for me personally as a guy who I was the one who was on television and I was the one who was taking these guys on the road with me to see guys like Joey all the sudden become recognized and people appreciate him for what he is Joey has always had a hard time with people recognizing his brilliance because he's so crazy and out there and wild with his comedy that until he was famous until he was like an established personality like he is now, it's almost like it's too hot to handle it's too much to deal with people nobody wanted to have him middle that was like a big deal with Joey Diaz like he couldn't get work on the road because he couldn't headline but he couldn't middle because nobody wanted Joey Diaz on in front of them because he would just go up and fucking destroy But my philosophy of comedy came out of the comedy store.

[1987] And first of all, what that meant was that we were all brothers in the comedy store.

[1988] So it was like, if I was going to take anybody on the road with me, I'd take my comedy store brothers.

[1989] It was always Ari Shafir, it was always Duncan Trussell.

[1990] It was, you know, different people, Sam Tripoli, different people that are comedy store brothers.

[1991] And Joey was always a comedy store brother.

[1992] And so when I started taking him on the road with me, there was two reasons.

[1993] One, because he was a comedy store brother, and two, because the philosophy of the comedy store also was, you had to go, you wanted to go on with a bunch of other killers.

[1994] You didn't want to be the only guy that was good.

[1995] You wanted a comedy store was about a bunch of different guys being good.

[1996] Like the old outlaws of comedy, you know, with Carl LeBoe and Kinnison, there was a bunch of guys that were really good.

[1997] Ron Schock, there was a bunch of these dudes that were really good together.

[1998] And that, you know, so taking guys like Joey on the road and exposing him to all these people and then seeing him go on stage and these fucking gigantic rounds of applause he gets, it's beautiful.

[1999] I couldn't be happier.

[2000] It's amazing.

[2001] To me, it's like a vision that's sort of coming true.

[2002] We had this idea when we used to do these, you know, when we were calling ourselves a death squad, we used to do these little videos.

[2003] I hired Brian to do these Death Squad videos.

[2004] And some of them were really short, like one of them was Joey Diaz talking.

[2005] talking about mugging this gay guy and the gay guy beat him up.

[2006] I mean, there's a bunch of them.

[2007] I'll probably get Brian to try to find them all and organize them and put him online, because some of them were really classic.

[2008] But the idea didn't really come to fruition in the terms of doing it through these little video clips.

[2009] The real way to get to know a guy like Joey is to get to know him on the podcast, to hear him go off for hours and hours about criminal stories, about sneaking to some girl's fucking bedroom at 2 o 'clock of the morning and eating their pussy and then escaping.

[2010] and like this is the crazy shit that he did you know the lucy snorbush story has become so big that a guy at in atlanta did you see the stickers that he made yep it's he had hello my name is lucy snorbush teaching to stickers they were they're amazing man it's just to see that happen and to see it all come out of uh this this one idea that you know that man i get this really talented group of friends and i think that if we all stick together and sort of you know help each other out and pump each other up, we make each other better and we make each other funnier and we create like a bigger footprint of positive energy.

[2011] All of us together have one giant footprint of positive energy.

[2012] But it has to be only that.

[2013] And that's why it was very important to resolve this whole issue with you and Brian.

[2014] And, you know, as I said, it's not a clear -cut case of either one person having done the right thing.

[2015] And there's errors made on both sides, both in the actual act itself and in the discussion of the act afterwards.

[2016] There's some incorrect thinking, and there's some negative thinking going on.

[2017] But hopefully we work all that shit out.

[2018] The most important thing is we're all of us in this fucking thing together.

[2019] And the less negative bullshit that you can spread, the more forgiveness that you can give, the more you can call people up and go, I'm fucking sorry.

[2020] I'm really sorry.

[2021] And the more the person listening, you can go, it's all good, dude.

[2022] The more we can do that in this life, the more we realize that we're all capable in various situations and in various circumstances of making colossal mistakes.

[2023] It doesn't necessarily mean you're a horrible person.

[2024] It just means sometimes we don't respond well to stress.

[2025] Sometimes we don't respond well to character issues and we need to learn and we need to grow.

[2026] And you may be more perfect than I am.

[2027] You may be further ahead.

[2028] but show me how you got there don't chastise don't be angry and don't hate try to elevate we can all make this we're not going to make utopia it doesn't exist but we can all make our environment and the people we come in contact with a little bit better Amen my recording will stop in three minutes I just got a warning from you stream listen power to the people I love all you dirty bitches we do and we'll be back soon thanks to the flesh light go to joe rogan .net click on the link for the fleshlight entering the code of day rogan and you will save yourself some money and thank you to on it .com that's o n n i t entering the code name rogan and you will get 10 % off any and all orders thank you for everybody thank you for everybody for tune in this sounds like i'm selling my brazilian translation thank you everybody for tuning in and we love the fuck out of you love you bye