#807 - Gino & AJ, from Speedweed

[0] Some cool boss guy.

[1] Gino and AJ from L .A. Speedweed.

[2] You are live.

[3] Are you tweeting?

[4] I was re -tweeting your tweet.

[5] Joe just recorded a jingle for us.

[6] Yeah, that's your jingle.

[7] Let's pull that.

[8] That should be your new ringtone.

[9] First of all, Gino's been my friend for a long time, and he's basically, he's the guy that turned me on to this whole L .A. Marijuana Delivery scene that is going on in L .A., which was amazing for comedians and for anybody who has a medical card where you could just call this cool dude and he would tell you what the great stuff is and you hang out with him and talk with him and you could buy it, and it was all totally legal and above board.

[10] It was all good.

[11] But somewhere along the line, some fuckery ran afoot, and they came up with some new political rules that keep marijuana delivery services from operating because you can explain it because essentially the way they've set it up is like you would have to have had a license to operate in each one of the houses that you're delivering to is that how it works well it used to be called the wild west you know out here in california for medical marijuana um and it it very much was until they wanted to regulate it and most of the people wanted it regulated because they wanted marijuana so yes let's take let's have Yes, let's regulate it.

[12] However, hold on.

[13] People think that marijuana is legal in California, but it is not.

[14] Absolutely not.

[15] What we have is protection from prosecution.

[16] That's what we have, which means that law enforcement can knock your door down, take your stuff, take your weed, take your cash, take whatever you got there, and you can show them all the papers in the world, and they're like, that's great, that's cool.

[17] We're glad you're legal.

[18] Bring it to the judge, and you'll be good to go, and you'll get your stuff back in a year, and you guys will be fine.

[19] And that's happened to us.

[20] But do you get your stuff back?

[21] Because I've heard there's a lot of people that have never gotten their stuff back.

[22] We always have.

[23] So how long have they kept your stuff for?

[24] Over a year.

[25] So if you have weed over a year, they're not taking care of it.

[26] It's done.

[27] So that weed's useless.

[28] It's useless.

[29] So you lose how much money in a bus like that?

[30] Well, you don't have to say.

[31] It depends on a amount of money.

[32] Substantial amount of money.

[33] Yeah, of course.

[34] And so they give you the cash back?

[35] They'll give you it.

[36] They actually cut you a check.

[37] I cut you a check for the cash.

[38] From the district attorney's office, I have one hanging on on the AJ's wall in his office of them returning a few thousand dollars to us.

[39] Which, because again, when there was any sort of trouble, it was, all right, you have to go see a judge.

[40] You go see the judge and the judge looks at the paperwork.

[41] And in our first case, the judge said, we've never seen a more compliant company in California.

[42] and dismissed without prejudice.

[43] And our lawyer asked, instead of dismissing without prejudice, we actually would like that entered in to the record that you're calling L .A. Speedweed, the most compliant marijuana company you've ever dealt with.

[44] So we had it entered into the record.

[45] It didn't translate, though.

[46] I have a lawsuit on my desk that is, I'm holding my hands 18 inches apart, by the way.

[47] That is that high of this lawsuit from the city.

[48] It's just super unfortunate because it's obviously not the will the people you know whenever something's not the will of the people like it's it's clear by all the gentlemen in this room we're all grown adults and we all enjoy marijuana we all have responsible lives we all do stuff we all get things done and we all enjoy it yeah and we're taxpayers we're normal people we're not freaks we're not like ne 'er -dwells or someone who's clinging off the system and and fucking up you know social systems that we've set up for for people that are trying to get by in this world?

[49] No. No, we're just guys.

[50] And let's talk about what you said just before, the will of the people.

[51] When they voted on this proposition D, which is a zoning law.

[52] No, hold on.

[53] Have any of you guys ever heard of zoning ordinance measure D?

[54] Has anyone heard of that?

[55] No. Of course not.

[56] Of course not.

[57] Has anyone heard of it?

[58] But hold on.

[59] We haven't heard of any zoning.

[60] Nobody does.

[61] That's the thing is nobody pays attention.

[62] to zoning laws.

[63] So now speedweed and services like ours that are doing things the right way are closed in the city because of a zoning ordinance that was passed because all these pot shops are opening up.

[64] So they said they're opening near schools and churches, got to protect the children.

[65] Isn't it hilarious that opening them near churches is an issue?

[66] It should be separation, church and state.

[67] It's politics.

[68] They say that during the old days of the Catholic Church, when they would walk down the aisle with that incense thing, they would be burning marijuana.

[69] That's what they would be burning, and they would be wafting it through the room as they walk by.

[70] You know those things that they carry around?

[71] Those things had weed in them.

[72] There's a pamphlet online about marijuana in the Bible.

[73] That might not be true, but it seems like it's not true.

[74] Let's just run with it.

[75] Don't you Google it, Jamie.

[76] Genesis 147.

[77] It was weed in there.

[78] That's probably one of them Todd McCormick quotes.

[79] He probably told me that.

[80] I'm like, oh, that's a fact for sure.

[81] I'm not even going to bother looking that up.

[82] The wine is acid.

[83] It sounds so good.

[84] But certainly cannabis has been part of the human record since the beginning.

[85] Well, it's a bizarre time we live in, and it's a long, complicated explanation.

[86] If someone who's never heard it before is like, well, how did it get illegal?

[87] Most of it got illegal because of William Randolph Hearst.

[88] Yes.

[89] Which is bananas that here we are in 2016, and this fucking crazy man from the 1930s who is running all these newspapers.

[90] running everything.

[91] And the man that Citizen Keynes based on, the Orson Welles movie, he was just a maniac.

[92] And he decided to get marijuana, to make it illegal, so that hemp would be illegal.

[93] Correct.

[94] Because he was on the newspapers, he's on temper industry.

[95] But it is insane that the propaganda that this guy created in the 1930s, even though we recognize it, everyone knows it.

[96] It's a fact.

[97] You can watch it.

[98] You can watch refurbannis.

[99] You can see what's written down.

[100] what they were attempting to do to make it illegal, the fact that it still sticks in 2016.

[101] And you couldn't smoke that stuff that they, that, the hemp, anyway.

[102] No, no. Well, hemp is not psychoactive.

[103] No!

[104] Well, that is the craziest part.

[105] Like, we, on it, we sell hemp, but we have to buy it from Canada.

[106] Yes.

[107] Buy it from Canada and bring it down to the United States, because even though it's legal and it's not psychoactive, these farmers, they can't grow it.

[108] They're starting to try to change those laws, but as far as I know, I mean, I don't know of any large -scale hemp growing operations here in the United States.

[109] Not yet.

[110] It's too dangerous.

[111] But China's just dedicated millions of acres to hemp.

[112] But you have to worry about your own government when you're growing a plant that you make clothes out of, that you make paper.

[113] That's all they're doing with it.

[114] Like, let's be really clear on that.

[115] The hemp that they're growing, you can't get high off of it.

[116] It's totally non -psychoactive.

[117] Yet, it's federally illegal.

[118] There's a fucking plant that makes the best clothes.

[119] It makes way stronger fabric, way stronger paper.

[120] You can eat it.

[121] It has all the essential amino acids.

[122] It's like a full complete amino acid profile.

[123] It's like one of the very few plants that's like that.

[124] You can make biofew of it.

[125] You can make It's fucking crazy.

[126] You look at old iron sides, the USS Constitution.

[127] The flag and the sales are made of hemp and those are the original things from hundreds of years ago.

[128] It's one of the best things that nature's ever created.

[129] This fucking fiber.

[130] It has this incredibly powerful fiber.

[131] Like who the fuck was it?

[132] One of my friends has an actual hemp stalk and I was over his house and I picked it up and I was like, whoa this is like a fucking alien plant because it's hard as like a hardwood like oak?

[133] Tensile strength stronger than steel when it's wound Yeah so it feels hard like oak but it's light like balsa wood It's really weird You can make spaceships out of the shit it feels like It's light and strong And we're not using it because it's illegal It's fucking crazy Parachutes used to be made out of it I know George Bush Sr. jumped out of a plane with a hemp parachute.

[134] You know, so...

[135] All canvases.

[136] All canvases.

[137] The Mona Lisa was painted on cannabis.

[138] It was made on hemp.

[139] Our founding fathers had hemp fields in their farms because hemp cleans the fallow fields after wheat fucks up your fields and corn fucks up your fields.

[140] Hemp goes in there, cleans it all out.

[141] It's so...

[142] It's such an identifier of how goofy people are here in 2016.

[143] that that's an issue.

[144] That we're dealing with this weird hemp thing because it's related to marijuana.

[145] Does anyone hear this, though?

[146] I mean, do people really, with Trump and Hillary and Bernie, do people really care that?

[147] They do, they don't know.

[148] Most people don't know.

[149] Most people have no idea.

[150] Most people think there's some health -related risks and that's reason why it was made illegal.

[151] That's why it's such a frustrating time for us because we start talking about zoning ordinance D and people are like, oh, I'm so bored.

[152] Can't we just get baked?

[153] What do you mean you're out of business?

[154] Well, don't you feel like, how long are you guys in the business?

[155] About six years.

[156] Six years, yeah.

[157] How much has changed in six years?

[158] So much.

[159] Since I've had a card, I got my card in, it was the 90s, I believe.

[160] In the 90s?

[161] Yeah.

[162] So there was just one state.

[163] Yeah.

[164] He was here.

[165] Yeah.

[166] When we got in the business, there was about five states that were legal.

[167] Now there's 24 in Florida is going to go.

[168] That's going to be 25 plus D .C. It's half the country.

[169] That's crazy.

[170] And CBD is, if you include CBD, there's only like seven or eight states that are not participating.

[171] Like, yeah, seven or eight states.

[172] I guess, now I think about it, I guess it was more like 2001.

[173] It's still way early.

[174] But my point was going to be that it's way more relaxed now.

[175] It's way more prevalent.

[176] I used to have to go to Inglewood.

[177] I go to Inglewood Wellness Center.

[178] Is it a hood sign?

[179] One of the gentlemen that worked there got shot and that's when I stopped going to that place.

[180] But that's how it was when we started.

[181] Right.

[182] When we started, A .J. wasn't much of a smoker when I moved out here to California.

[183] And, you know, he was...

[184] It's condescending.

[185] Now you're being condescending a little bit.

[186] Are you guys fucking with each other right there?

[187] Live?

[188] So, you know, we were working in technology for the government before we started Speedweed together.

[189] You guys are CIA.

[190] I knew it.

[191] I knew it.

[192] They've infiltrated.

[193] You know, don't put me in Sturgill Simpson's category.

[194] Let me tell you this story real quick.

[195] Sturgle Simpson was on stage, and some dude yells out in the audience, Sturgle, please tell me you're not really a CIA assassin.

[196] And he just shrugged and went on to the next song.

[197] That should be the answer to something.

[198] That fucking Wheeler Walker Jr. How funny is that dude?

[199] Oh, my God.

[200] He's hilarious.

[201] So, AJ was, we were working in a stressful environment, working for Congress at the time.

[202] And he was actually drinking to medicate himself as we were, you know, working, doing technology coding and things like that.

[203] And he started playing with neurotropics to say, you know what, I'm not going to drink anymore.

[204] And I said, instead of neurotropics, why don't you try cannabis?

[205] You know, I was that guy who had the shelves of modafinil and neuropeps and all, and, you know, Lthian, all these different crazy things that you can get on or off the market.

[206] And Gino's like, just smoke this.

[207] Just put all that shit away Put the booze away and just smoke this I'm like, no, it's going to make me freak out Well, one thing that neutropics do help It helps me maintain memory While under the influence Because it's one of the most slippery things About being under the influence of pot As the memory is like The memory gets real slippery Sure I think I gave them alpha brain also when we first started That'll help Some people say that nicotine actually helps In some strange way I use nicotine every day Yeah.

[208] That you, Nicorette.

[209] I've never smoked.

[210] You know, he started, he started chewing the nicotine gum, you know, a few years ago.

[211] And I said, I can't believe it.

[212] I love it.

[213] Yeah, well, this is what it is.

[214] Like, nicotine itself apparently has similar effects to a lot of neutropics.

[215] And that it does something to stimulate your brain function.

[216] But smoking is fucking horrible for you.

[217] So, like, it's not really the getting of the nicotine, which is so confusing because you automatically assume nicotine equals lung cancer everybody dies that's so sad why do they do it and then you why are you doing nicotine and you go no no no it's the smoking of these chemicals that's fucking up your lungs and it's giving you cancer it's irritating your lungs you know when people cough it's harsh fucks your lungs up you get cancer you die that's what's going on it's not the nicotine's fault no it's not yeah so nicotine itself is some sort of a very strange compound that sort of like stimulates your mind a little bit yeah i think it's the drug that just nose.

[218] Like if you're wired, it relaxes you.

[219] If you're a little bit cloudy -headed, it gives you a boost of energy.

[220] Dude, it sounds like it's in your veins.

[221] That's your friend.

[222] It's like the drug who knows, man. The drug knows.

[223] The drug knows.

[224] A boy has no name.

[225] The gum is so gross.

[226] I love it.

[227] You're deep in, man. Look at you.

[228] The drug that knows, that's hilarious.

[229] The 4 milligram coated fruit flavor from Target.

[230] I'm down.

[231] So me as his brother, I was, I wanted to do what I could to try and help help.

[232] this situation.

[233] It wasn't didn't really need to be helped that much but I said look he should just try try marijuana it's it's what regulates my mood and has since I was was I've been smoking almost daily since 15 years old and so I so I said let's let's let's go to the doctor and and he didn't want to go to the doctor with me no there's no because this is back in the early days when everything was sketchy so we go to this office building that is up in San Fernando and And there's, like, barbed wire around the building.

[234] We go in this sketchy office building.

[235] And I'm freaking out the whole time.

[236] You know, our dad's a cop.

[237] You know, we've got clearance from the government.

[238] What are we?

[239] This is crazy.

[240] And Gina's just, like, chill.

[241] Let's do it.

[242] We're fine.

[243] You know, chew your nicotine.

[244] Let's go.

[245] And we go into this office, this doctor's office.

[246] It's clearly not a doctor's office.

[247] And they say, you know, the doctor will see you both now.

[248] And now I'm freaking out thinking, like, what I have to, like, get undressed in front of my brother and sit on the paper with this doctor.

[249] I don't know what I'm doing.

[250] And we just go into a room.

[251] room and there's a table and he sits across from us and he asked me first unfortunately why you need weed and I said you know and I'm staring at him my brother's looking at me and I can feel him going don't fuck this up like don't fuck this up so he's like oh you have stress I said yes you have trouble sleep I said yes he says okay you have weed and he called it weed he called it weed and then he goes to my brother why do you need weed and my brother goes I have stress and trouble sleep he's okay you have weed and we got these papers and it felt so sketchy but we went to a dispensary that afternoon and it was like Yeah, those early people that started open dispensaries like the Inglewood Wellness Center, those people like the pioneers in the Wow Wow West.

[252] That is a gangster move, man. Well, it took almost a criminal element to be in business at that point.

[253] And that's why we're going back to these laws that say you had to be in business before 2007 in order to even be considered in these few that are allowed.

[254] Well, let's explain the whole zoning thing.

[255] So the issue is delivery.

[256] right that's what the issue is so prop d is what governs all of la's marijuana laws that's a zoning law so there's a hundred and thirty five shops that are allowed those are the ones that have been operating since 2007 they're called pre -icos any other shop you go to is illegal any delivery service you use in the city of l .A. is illegal according to proposition d which we are fighting in court by the way we are fighting that and that law just came out in in uh...

[257] uh, 2012, 2014, 2014.

[258] We had, we had been in business for years.

[259] We had already been working with the state government for years on, on the process of legalization.

[260] We advise the state assembly.

[261] We're the only retail company on the, on the board of equalization stakeholder panel.

[262] I know I'm in the weeds right now, but like we are the company that instead of suing us, you should have just said, hey guys, what's a good way to do this?

[263] You know, That's important to talk about that, you know, the Board of Equalization is kind of like the IRS for the state.

[264] If you're a commercial business, you pay your taxes to the Board of Equalization.

[265] Well, the Board of Equalization chose our company as the one retail company that they wanted to present to the legislature, to the people with, we presented with the New York State, I mean, the California State Troopers, the Highway Patrol, the Teamsters, the Assurance.

[266] company and an app company and us can i just say the board of equalization just that that name it sounds like some sort of overseer in a woody allen movie about the future they kind of are the board of equalization like that like that's some like fucking utopian nightmare movie right fear you have to sit how are you equal well you know just try to be a good neighbor not good enough white man see any business owner here's board of equalization and they're freaking out like they're laughing, they're laughing, but they're also afraid.

[267] What does equalization mean?

[268] Is that a real word?

[269] That seems like they made that word up.

[270] Now that they think of it, that's kind of fucked up that it's called equalization.

[271] Like, we're going to take the business's money and give it to y 'all here so we can all get equalized.

[272] Yeah.

[273] That doesn't work.

[274] No, it doesn't.

[275] Some people are lazy.

[276] Yeah, it doesn't work.

[277] This has got to be a way, though.

[278] They think that a universal basic income that giving people $13 ,000 though, like giving everybody through, like some, Michael Shermer actually just tweeted this, who's that really intelligent, skeptic guy, and they think giving people $13 ,000 a year, like giving it to everybody, would reduce crime, would reduce poverty, it would give people chances to pursue other things, if they had universal basic income.

[279] It's a really strange concept because it's one of those things that everybody has an e -jerk reaction to.

[280] I definitely did.

[281] I heard it, and I was like, well, I'd get out of here.

[282] You can't just give people money.

[283] People are too lazy.

[284] But the more I read about it and the more I see people who are quite a bit more educated than me on this subject, they think that it's possible that doing something like that would actually cost less money in the long run because it would start a cascade of positive events that giving people enough money to get by on, right?

[285] That that would start like a series of events in a lot of these people's lives where issues would be taken care of that are insurmountable otherwise.

[286] And then it'll start some momentum in a positive way and that you're going to deal with less crime and you're going to deal with less violence.

[287] So you're going to deal with less need to deal with the problems and the financial repercussions of crime and violence.

[288] It'll overall cost less money to the community.

[289] I'm skeptical, though.

[290] My knee jerked when he heard this.

[291] Mine did too.

[292] And I was first talking about it with my friend Eddie Wong from Vice, from that Vice show.

[293] What's this fucking show that's going to?

[294] Wong's World or something.

[295] Is that what it is?

[296] But he brought it up and I was like, what?

[297] Get the fuck out of here.

[298] And then when I realized that there were a lot of people bringing this up, I said, okay, well, let me put my knee down.

[299] A knee jerk.

[300] Let me just open -mindedly look at this.

[301] And I'm like, okay, I'm looking at the point, like if you give people money, they're just going to be lazy and they're never going to get anything done, and you're going to deal with a bunch of lazy people.

[302] The lot of effect.

[303] Right, like the worst fears that people have when they worry about welfare, that you create a welfare environment where people get accustomed to that, and they have no ambition, and nothing ever gets done.

[304] It's almost a way to poison people's ambition is to give them money.

[305] Switzerland just had this thing where they were going to give everybody, I think it was like $2 ,500 a month, just like free income.

[306] And then to hope that that would pay for everyone to be like just a little bump so they would keep their jobs and stuff like that and they're like their shitty jobs would feel a little bit better but then they uh they denying it and didn't pass yeah it didn't pass but that would be interesting everybody getting free income well yeah that's the idea behind this and Switzerland is like a very inclusive country where everyone serves in the military and has to participate that would be a good place to try something like this because America's obviously a little bit more loosey -goosey with that kind of shit We are.

[307] We spread that.

[308] We, dollar bills, y 'all.

[309] Right.

[310] It's also how much, how big is Switzerland?

[311] Like, how many people live there?

[312] I mean, that's, that would be like giving universal basic income to L .A. Right.

[313] You know, really.

[314] I mean, those are the arguments for like universal health care and all that.

[315] Well, it works in Finland.

[316] Well, Finland is like the size of Long Island and Westchester County.

[317] That's it.

[318] Yeah.

[319] It's tiny.

[320] I mean, just think about, like, the stuff that flies in Canada.

[321] Right.

[322] You know, Canada is a totally different country.

[323] They're connected to us, but they're fucking completely different.

[324] And they're right there.

[325] So if anybody says it works for Canada, like, there's only 30 million of them.

[326] That's right.

[327] They have a huge fucking country, and there's only 30 million people.

[328] And they're just nicer.

[329] They are.

[330] They're just nicer.

[331] If there's a Canadian in the room, you know it immediately.

[332] They're like some of the nicest fucking human beings on the planet.

[333] It's the one country that I wouldn't think twice.

[334] I wouldn't think twice about moving to Canada.

[335] Well, they're ahead of the curve on cannabis, for sure.

[336] Oh, yeah.

[337] Yeah.

[338] Delivery is the only on.

[339] in Canada.

[340] And it's government sanctioned.

[341] Yeah, the government is essentially this new guy that has gotten in.

[342] What's the new guy's name?

[343] The young guy.

[344] Yeah, handsome fellow.

[345] Trudeau.

[346] Thank you.

[347] I got to think of the guy from Dunesbury.

[348] That's how I do it too.

[349] The government is also behind their alcohol sales also in Canada.

[350] Like, you can't buy liquor unless it's through the government.

[351] Yeah, I don't know how sure about that.

[352] I'm not a drug dealer.

[353] Yeah.

[354] In Canada.

[355] in Canada.

[356] Yeah, I kind of, I'm very libertarian, so I don't like the government involved wherever possible.

[357] Yeah.

[358] They've had some interesting rulings about comedy up there, too.

[359] There was one guy that got heckled by some women in a nightclub in Vancouver, and apparently they were really drunk and, you know, things happen in comedy clubs.

[360] People get crazy.

[361] They're yelling things out.

[362] You're serving people drinks.

[363] They're going to get crazy.

[364] They're going to yell things out.

[365] So he was yelling things at them, and he said a bunch of rude stuff.

[366] about them being lesbians, a bunch of homophobic stuff, and they sued him, and they won.

[367] $15 ,000.

[368] They won $15 ,000.

[369] You know, what the problem with that is, man, once people start hurling insults at each other, like the women hurled insults at the comedian, the comedian hurled insults at the woman.

[370] I don't know who started it off.

[371] I think that would be imperative to find out who started it off.

[372] but I know that the guy was on stage doing stand -up so they're not supposed to be yelling this isn't a conversation if they're talking to him I guarantee you unless he's a crowd worker I don't know if he's a guy that works crowds but I guarantee you most likely he was getting interrupted so he's trying to do his act for all the people in the room and he was getting interrupted and then it got ugly and what's the answer to have people sign waivers before they walk in the comedy clubs it's silly It's just you can't, you can't, you know.

[373] There's that unspoken rule.

[374] You can't have a money, a monetary reward for someone that heckled.

[375] You shouldn't be able to extract money from a comedy club like that.

[376] Because you go in trying to make it happen.

[377] Exactly.

[378] Well, look, you go to a baseball game, you get hit with a foul ball, you die.

[379] You can't sue anybody because it's kind of a given that dangerous shit is flying around.

[380] Balls are fast and hard.

[381] You know, fuck baseball.

[382] I didn't know that could happen.

[383] And golf.

[384] So you go to a comedy game.

[385] Oh, my God, fuck all.

[386] Comedy club, first rule is you're in the audience, shut the fuck up.

[387] Second rule is let the comics say what he wants to say, and you might get offended.

[388] That's a chance you take going in there.

[389] Yeah.

[390] I mean, I don't want to stand up for the hecklers in any way, but the only way that it could be different is if it's like Rick Ingram works the crowd constantly, you know, talks to people.

[391] And if you have a thin skin, he's hilarious.

[392] But if you have a thin skin, he'll fuck with you.

[393] Right.

[394] You know, and like maybe you didn't want that.

[395] And so maybe you insult back and, you know, Rick knows how to.

[396] handle stuff like that but I'm saying if he's one of those kind of comedians that that works a crowd that's cool you know but it could have been that he insulted them first that's the only time that I could see where they would get pissed off but from what I understand they had been heckling all night that was according to his version of story which it's not like people wait to heckle you know someone who's a heckler if there's four comedians in the night and the fourth guy goes up that person's probably been heckling all night right they're just gonna keep doing now they're just drunker does this scare you though like like doing material and Canada in the future, if it gets heated with like you and Heckler, are you going to be like, shit, this is Canada, I better step back a little before I call her this and that, or him and this and that.

[397] Because I mean, that kind of opens the door for this to be able to, like, oh, now we're allowed to sue if the comedian isn't mean to me. Yeah, well, it's a dangerous precedent to set, and it does not make me comfortable, and hopefully I'll never have to deal with it when I'm up there.

[398] What about Montreal, though?

[399] I mean, the night life there is like makes New Orleans look, like, lame.

[400] Like Provo.

[401] Montreal's a beautiful town too.

[402] I love performing there.

[403] I find crowds in Canada to be really polite.

[404] I mean, I've had some hecklers in Canada, but you're going to have hecklers when you get people drunk.

[405] They're going to fuck it up.

[406] The only thing you could do is probably like they're doing in South Carolina.

[407] You just, you have to boycott it to make some kind of change, you know, how they're, you know, boycotting South Carolina.

[408] No one's going to boycott going to Vancouver.

[409] because of this one rule.

[410] The loophole is at the end of heckling.

[411] You could just say, just kidding.

[412] That doesn't work.

[413] You like a fucking dude that thinks, I know what I'll do with a plane crashes.

[414] I'll just jump out at the last second right before it hits the ground.

[415] At the end go, allegedly.

[416] Yeah.

[417] You don't understand physics.

[418] Not that I do, but, yeah.

[419] I don't know, man. It's not a good thing.

[420] It's definitely not a good ruling.

[421] The fact that he lost is very dangerous for...

[422] Well, there's another one going on right now.

[423] Really?

[424] Yeah, another guy got in trouble.

[425] What is his name?

[426] Chris, something or another?

[427] He's a comic from Montreal.

[428] I think he speaks both languages.

[429] I think he speaks French and English.

[430] Chris Wade?

[431] Is that his name?

[432] You see, they don't have the pesky First Amendment to deal with, I guess.

[433] Yeah, so this is what happened with his gentleman.

[434] Find out this dude's name.

[435] He's a dude who's getting sued because there was a sick kid, and he made a joke about it.

[436] That's right.

[437] he uh the the joke was it was something i'm going to paraphrase it i'm going to do a shitty job but that a lot of people donated money because this kid was dying but then he lived for like several years and then the joke was hey you know he's not even sick or something like that mike warth that's it what is the joke pull up the joke so we could analyze it what did he say oh no i'm afraid what was this is this is it say what the joke is?

[438] Oh.

[439] Oh, that kid's got a serious illness.

[440] That's not a Snapchat filter.

[441] Hmm.

[442] We're looking for whatever the joke was.

[443] It doesn't, does it show the actual joke or no?

[444] No. Maybe it might have been too offensive.

[445] That's the thing is, in this room where it's like no rules, I'm afraid to even make a comment on that.

[446] That's joke.

[447] You could play the joke.

[448] I'm not going to laugh.

[449] I'm not going to smirk.

[450] There's a bunch of comedians, you know, that really enjoy saying ridiculous shit that they don't really mean because it's funny because it's so shocking and ridiculous that it's funny.

[451] There's a real danger in pretending that those guys are just speaking their absolute mind and like giving affidavits in court relaying incidents with a cold, hard, disengagement from the facts.

[452] No, these are comedians trying to say fucked up shit that they don't really mean.

[453] And one of the reasons why it's funny It's because you know they don't really mean it And they're saying it and it's ridiculous Like Brian Holtsman Right?

[454] He's a great example My perfect example He's one of my favorite comedians ever And he's so ridiculous He says things that I don't want to give away any of his material But he says things that he absolutely does not mean Right And he says it in this character And it's fucking hilarious But it's a landmine For anybody looking to Point to a guy's performance on stage and try to pretend that somehow or another what he's doing is what he really means.

[455] Right.

[456] And if you see audience members getting angry at it or something, it's hard to imagine how they can't see that it's a character.

[457] Yes.

[458] You know?

[459] It's not hate speech.

[460] It's just a set.

[461] I'm just doing material.

[462] I maybe think that we're too close to it, honestly, because I think if someone didn't know, it might take them a few minutes.

[463] Like, say if you're not a savvy comedy store, a regular type person or someone who enjoys common and a regular basis, you could go and watch Holtzman and go, what the fuck is going on here?

[464] And that might, that what the fuck is going on here might last 10 minutes before you catch on, like that this guy, because he'll let you in on it.

[465] He'll smirk and joke in between, you know, his, his ramblings.

[466] But I could see people not getting it.

[467] Well, that's the thing.

[468] He'll jerk and, you know, make the smirk in between things.

[469] But the people who are already mad, they skip over that.

[470] part yes you know they just think he's a crazy right he never justifies though because I mean I think I've seen in your special you say I a lot of this is just comedy people but does he ever say no no no he did a 15 minute version of his gay son the other day I had never seen the full 15 minute version of it it was beautiful that could be a comedy special just that yeah that is the best example of his bits too as far as like the most fucked up thing you could imagine like in joke form but it's obviously not true it's so preposterous when he gets into it it's oh my god it's funny and it could offend people you know and if it does to live in a punitive society that he can't perform be an artist and perform his art because he has to worry about being sued yeah he's already not making enough money to be sued for exactly well here's the thing you have the right to be offended but people don't have to agree with your opinions on things so if you're going to see art whether or not you think stand -up comedy's art you're creating it right you're creating that this guy is performing art you either like it or you don't like it and if you don't like it you don't have the right to interrupt it you're supposed to leave just leave that's what a polite person does I've seen some stuff that I didn't like and I left I've gotten to see a movie and I didn't like it and I left there's nothing wrong with that but to interrupt it for everybody else that's watching the movie that's a piece of shit move so this you're rewarding someone who did a piece of shit move it's like it's not a good person you know a good person doesn't heckle I mean it's not that people who are hecklers are bad people but they're drunk and fucked up and that makes them a pain in the ass you know but a lot of drunk fucked up people are actually good people right but when you reward that kind of behavior like this like you could say that you think that the comedian's not funny.

[471] You could say don't ever go see him.

[472] You could cast judgment.

[473] You could do whatever the fuck you want.

[474] But to say he owes her $15 ,000 then it's like, okay, who is the retard in charge here?

[475] Who the fuck said yes to this?

[476] Is this a judge?

[477] Is this a group of people?

[478] Can I sit down with you fucks and talk to you and try to figure out what the fuck is going on in your mind?

[479] Right.

[480] You're going to charge him?

[481] AJ, what's the punitive rule for the labeling that, you know, you have to put the cancer.

[482] That's Proposition 65.

[483] You have to label all marijuana products with this warning label that says this product is known to contain chemicals that may cause cancer.

[484] So every, even though cannabis is known to treat cancer, is known to, not proven to, but known to because we can't do the right research.

[485] Every piece of cannabis has to have this label on it, or else.

[486] you can be fined for not having this label again punitive society and we got sued we got sued for not having the labeling on our packaging even though we did so so they decide to put a lawsuit against 400 800 800 they just went through weed maps and just sued everybody everybody so they just did it just to try to scratch some money out of you yeah they said we'll make this go away it pays a settlement we'll make it go away wow and this is what this person has done to hundreds and hundreds of businesses.

[487] That's how they make their living.

[488] She sued us in 2014.

[489] It's like a patent troll.

[490] Right.

[491] That's crazy.

[492] And all of our products have it on it.

[493] So we were sued without even one burden of proof because when we got it, we're like, look everything has it on it.

[494] So did they just say the lawsuit's invalid?

[495] No, no. No, we still have to go through with it.

[496] No, we still got to go through it.

[497] So did you go through it?

[498] We're filing right now.

[499] And after it's filed, then I've got to file a complaint with the bar and do all this bullshit.

[500] it because anybody can sue anybody now and it's really, really hurts businesses, it hurts good people.

[501] So how much did they want to settle?

[502] About $20 ,000.

[503] Oh my God.

[504] They're fucking criminals, but they're just stealing money from people.

[505] From dispensaries because they think they have it.

[506] But where they made their money is on, I mean, every place has to have it.

[507] If you walk into Target, you walk in the Walmart, they all have to have this thing because anything that has plastics in it or anything.

[508] Oh, I see that sign everywhere now.

[509] Once you get sued you're looking everywhere you see and that that's the law you got to have it posted so just like you'll never hear the word lesbian in vancouver again that's that's those the glory days are done is that what he yelled he just yelled i don't know what he said i don't remember what he said but i've heard worse so so it's too litigious of our society yeah well you can't so it's not even our society it's their society well yeah bigger companies don't just settle because it's easier to just settle.

[510] But, you know, smaller companies, I guess they think because marijuana, you just have so much money.

[511] However, our tax burden is almost 70%.

[512] There's no real money when you're doing things by the book.

[513] Right.

[514] They just passed another 15 % sales tax on top of marijuana, y 'all in California, just got passed this week through the Senate and the Assembly.

[515] The governor signs that another 15 % tax is coming our way.

[516] And that gets passed to the consumer.

[517] Yeah.

[518] On top of the sales tax, on top of the city tax, on top of excise tax, and some of the cities and counties in California having another 10 or 15 % on top of it.

[519] They're also taxing the growers now.

[520] Also, I heard, so they're taxing anything that has anything to do with what you get as a final product.

[521] So if that's the case, why would they be trying to stifle business?

[522] Wouldn't they want to promote business because business is going to give them more tax revenue?

[523] This is the California.

[524] It's the ultimate paradox.

[525] It is.

[526] It's because, and a lot of it is because of law enforcement unions.

[527] and not just them but prison guard unions and all these, there's a lot of unions that put pressure on different politicians to try to keep the laws in place or to make them even stricter because they want more people to get arrested.

[528] Privatized prisons, subsidized prisons.

[529] That is such a dark concept that this is something that we're really dealing with.

[530] We really are and the problem is the penalties for the users, like having a joint is very small, but the penalties for the business for doing it the wrong way are huge.

[531] like our business is being crushed right now over a stupid zoning suit.

[532] So there's this big gap between the business penalty and the consumer penalty so that the business has no incentive really to do it the right way.

[533] Because the consumer, you're going to go into a shop and ask them, hey, do you pay your people on the books?

[534] Can I seek your compliance packet?

[535] No. You just go $40 eighth.

[536] I love that OG.

[537] I'm buying it.

[538] So with all these taxes, that $40 eighth has got to go to $100.

[539] Are we going to pay that?

[540] Or are we just going to go and call our dealer or whoever that we've been using for 20 years?

[541] So it's just going to make the black market even broader?

[542] Well, that's an issue that they've had in Colorado for sure.

[543] But people are happy to pay the taxes because they like the fact that it's free.

[544] Like the thing is free there.

[545] Like you can go and you can buy pot.

[546] You don't have to have any kind of a license.

[547] You don't have to any.

[548] And you can just go do it.

[549] And it's working.

[550] So 39 % is what they have to pay.

[551] Like recreational and medical is much less.

[552] but people just pay it.

[553] You know, we're not happy about it, but regulation is what we want.

[554] We just want to follow it.

[555] We just want the path to the way to do this the correct way.

[556] Just make it fair.

[557] But see, what's going on in Denver should be the shining light for the rest of the states.

[558] Because what they've done is they've made money.

[559] Like, they have so much fucking money from tax revenue.

[560] They made more money from tax revenue than they did from alcohol taxes.

[561] Right.

[562] So last year, Colorado takes in $40 million in tax revenue from California.

[563] cannabis.

[564] California takes in $40 million in tax revenue from cannabis.

[565] We have 30 million people in this state compared to Colorado's got what, $5, $6 million.

[566] We're not collecting the taxes here.

[567] So if the companies are not following the rules as they stand, why are we throwing all these new rules at them and setting up these monopolies like here in L .A. with the monopoly, stifling good businesses.

[568] This doesn't help us and it doesn't help the consumer either.

[569] It doesn't make any sense.

[570] It doesn't.

[571] It's not like it would be dangerous.

[572] It's not like if you get more pot out there.

[573] It's going to flood the streets and the people are going to jump from the buildings.

[574] It's actually less dangerous.

[575] We've proven that.

[576] And again, that's why we're invited over and over to places like the Board of Equalization and to other places like Oakland, the city of Oakland, wants to follow our delivery model.

[577] It's because the way we do things actually creates less crime, you know, less opportunity for crime.

[578] Because it's just we're in your living room.

[579] You know, we know who you are.

[580] You sent in your documents.

[581] We know you live at that address.

[582] We know you went to a doctor.

[583] We know everything matches.

[584] So no one's seen you walk in or out of a place with a commodity that's more expensive than diamonds.

[585] You know, when you're looking at a dispensary, if people are walking in and out of there with duffel bags, what do you think is in those duffel bags?

[586] It's very easy for crime to happen.

[587] because it's visible.

[588] We've done over 200 ,000 deliveries, zero assaults, zero robberies, zero complaints.

[589] Knock on wood, bitch.

[590] That's great.

[591] Don't just let that go?

[592] With a lot of rates.

[593] You know, that's an important stat, but it is because we are very thoughtful about how we go about making sure the person is who they are.

[594] We do a Google search on every single patient.

[595] We turn down as many patients as we would take.

[596] Maybe even more just to make sure they are who they say and that a background easy background check doesn't pull up anything that says we shouldn't work with someone like that yeah pedophiles apparently love weed too but we don't love pedophiles so we don't let them in our club pedophiles also like milk you know what the fuck are we doing so connecting marijuana with crime is so stupid and there's no facts to back it up It doesn't make any sense.

[597] Just because some people who use it are criminals, that doesn't mean it's causing anything.

[598] So there's no rationale for any of this.

[599] And you're fighting against the idea of tax revenue.

[600] Like you're holding back revenue because there's a lot of people.

[601] If it was, there's a lot of people that are on the fence, like, man, I'd think about opening up a pot store, but fuck.

[602] You know, what if Jeb Bush wins, you know, there's a lot of people that think like that.

[603] Well, those people are not going to go in.

[604] But if it becomes completely free and legal, the way a blue jeans store would be, Blue jeans, one of mine, my grandma.

[605] It was like that.

[606] I was just trying for a reference.

[607] But if that bit happens, the store's going to open up everywhere, and the money's going to be crazy.

[608] It's going to be a new economy.

[609] I mean, it's really possible with all the people here.

[610] Yeah, they'll still have to file regulations, you know.

[611] It's already billions on the books.

[612] Well, they should file regulations because I don't think this should be available to everybody.

[613] I think when you're young especially Like this kind of fucking pop they have here in LA You imagine if you were a six -year -old kid in Detroit And you got a hold of this shit No Woo!

[614] No Six -year -olds are not ready for this They're not It's not It should definitely come of age I don't know what that age is I think we would have to decide as a society How old someone should be Before they start drinking How I mean there's a lot of countries That let kids drink Like responsibly with their parents When they're much younger than 21 And they have less incidents per capita of alcoholism than some of the countries that are more restrictive about it.

[615] So I don't know who's right or who's wrong.

[616] I don't know.

[617] I know Americans, you know, things that work other places, like we said before, don't work here.

[618] You know, I remember going to Italy as a 16 -year -old with school, and the first thing we did was run to like a bodega and buy beer because you could.

[619] Because we're American kids and we're dicks and you can have beer.

[620] So we didn't grow up responsibly.

[621] So we weren't acting responsibly.

[622] We'd have to like shift the whole way our culture.

[623] is to make those things work.

[624] And I don't know how to do that.

[625] But I know that weed is the easy problem to solve.

[626] Alcohol is a demon that needs to be rooted out of our society.

[627] See, I disagree with you.

[628] I disagree with you.

[629] I enjoy alcohol.

[630] No, I do too, but I mean like What the fuck then?

[631] I mean when we start having the conversation when people say, let's compare weed to alcohol, I start licking my chops.

[632] Because when you compare it to alcohol, alcohol is poisonous.

[633] I dig drinking.

[634] I drink a lot.

[635] All the time.

[636] So I'm not saying get rid of it.

[637] But you did say that, though.

[638] You just misspoke?

[639] I misspoke.

[640] I don't mean pull it away.

[641] No, no, I understand.

[642] I understand.

[643] Let's not demonize marijuana compared to alcohol.

[644] No, well, alcohol definitely ruins more people.

[645] It's definitely way worse for your body.

[646] It's definitely much more dangerous as far as, like, operating cars and behavior, the the foolish things that people do when they're drinking.

[647] Yeah, all that stuff.

[648] There's a lot of stuff that's directly attributable to alcohol, but so what?

[649] So what?

[650] You know, look.

[651] We've survived for so long with alcohol.

[652] The regulations have worked at least to a manageable effect.

[653] But here's what you can't do.

[654] You can't stop people from doing what they want to do.

[655] Why should you?

[656] Exactly.

[657] And why is it that you can stop someone from doing that, but you can't stop them from practicing, doing flips and BMX bikes?

[658] Right.

[659] You can't?

[660] Right.

[661] You know, is it because they're driving?

[662] and injuring other people, well, then take away their right to drive.

[663] You know, like, that's how we have it set up, though they're injuring people, they're getting in fights.

[664] Well, you lock them in jail.

[665] Yep.

[666] But the rest of the people, leave us alone.

[667] Yeah, we should have the right to...

[668] There's too many fucking laws.

[669] We can control our own consciousness.

[670] You can control what we put in our bodies.

[671] And here's the most important concept.

[672] We're all just people.

[673] They're all just people, too.

[674] Like, you can call them the government, you can call them the police, you can call them the DEA.

[675] There are a bunch of fucking people.

[676] That's all they are.

[677] When you go behind some big crazy name, It's the FBI.

[678] Open up.

[679] People go, oh, shit, it's the FBI.

[680] If you go, it's Mike and Steve and Bob, and we want to see what kind of plants are growing.

[681] Right.

[682] Open up.

[683] Like, who the fuck are you guys?

[684] Right.

[685] You guys are just some fucking people.

[686] So when you write something down on paper, this is how archaic our world is, you write something down on paper that decrees power to these regular people.

[687] So these regular people all of a sudden have the right to fucking shitstorm your house, kick open your door, shoot your dog because you have a bag of pot hitting in your fucking bureau drawer.

[688] This is the world we've created.

[689] It is.

[690] This is the real world.

[691] And more people get killed during those raids than pot would ever kill, that's for sure.

[692] Pot doesn't kill anybody.

[693] That's the most ridiculous thing about it.

[694] I think the number is still zero, right?

[695] Zero ever.

[696] Man, they would be parading it in front of us.

[697] Every now and then, like the mirror in the UK or one of those fake newspapers will put A young man dies on marijuana.

[698] First known case, but, you know.

[699] It's not true.

[700] It's not true.

[701] It doesn't kill you.

[702] It's not toxic.

[703] It might fuck your head up.

[704] You could fuck your head up.

[705] But you should be allowed to make that choice that I'm going to fuck my head up.

[706] Yeah.

[707] And if you're abusing it, then the people around you will help you or whatever, you know, whatever needs to be done.

[708] Dude, just like monster energy drinks.

[709] I know people who drink those things all day long.

[710] And look, I love the way those fucking things taste.

[711] And if you want to stay awake and you're like, fuck it, we're going in.

[712] That is the way to go.

[713] But you're not supposed to drink like 10 of them in a day.

[714] No, that dude needs an intervention.

[715] Some people are crazy.

[716] They'll drink 10 of those giant Red Bulls.

[717] The big Red Bull, you know when they started making Red Bull like a beer can now?

[718] Like a Bud Tallboy?

[719] People drink those all day.

[720] Mostly people that have alcohol problems that go to AA, they switch to caffeine.

[721] So I know like 20 coffees a day for some of these guys.

[722] I went to the hospital because of those energy drinks from heart palpitations and stuff like that.

[723] Oh, yeah, man. Well, you know, they're great if you want one, you know?

[724] And Monsters probably actually, like, less caffeine and some of them.

[725] I mean, the Monster's one of the better ones.

[726] They're the better tasting ones.

[727] The worst one that I ever tried as far as, like, the jolt that it gives you was that red line shit.

[728] You remember that?

[729] Was it the one when I went to the hospital was the Mountain Dew one.

[730] They don't even make that anymore.

[731] Right, it became illegal.

[732] Yeah, it became illegal.

[733] Red line.

[734] What's scary?

[735] It was scary.

[736] It was a little can.

[737] And in that can was, like, 50 doses.

[738] Stupid.

[739] You would down the whole thing.

[740] But it was, see if you can find it.

[741] How safe are those five -hour energy drinks?

[742] Oh, those are pretty safe.

[743] Pretty safe.

[744] Those are pretty safe.

[745] Those are mostly vitamin B -12.

[746] Right.

[747] They only have, I want to say, like 70 milligrams of caffeine.

[748] Like a cup of coffee.

[749] Yeah, like a cup of coffee.

[750] So they're safe.

[751] I don't feel the same drinking that as I do a Red Bull.

[752] No, I like it.

[753] I think it's better.

[754] I like those B -12 drinks.

[755] I think B -12 drinks are way better.

[756] Caffeine, 250 milligrams of caffeine.

[757] That doesn't seem like that much.

[758] It doesn't.

[759] Well, that's not an eight -ounce bottle either.

[760] Is it?

[761] It says per eight -fluid -ounce bottle.

[762] It was a smaller bottle.

[763] But how much is in coffee?

[764] Like, if coffee's 50 milligrams, and that's a lot.

[765] Maybe I'm thinking to the wrong shit.

[766] I swear I thought it was red line.

[767] Maybe I'm just wrong about the sheer volume of caffeine in that thing.

[768] But I thought it was just, like, ridiculous.

[769] But anyway, I drank it, whatever it was.

[770] It was this one or the other one that's like it that I mistake the name for.

[771] But I'm pretty sure it's this.

[772] Starbucks.

[773] And I remember thinking, dude, I am just way too jacked up right now.

[774] Starbucks heavy caffeine.

[775] Yeah.

[776] Especially their cold brew.

[777] I get the, sometimes I get the Trenta.

[778] Hold the fuck up.

[779] A 20 ounce?

[780] Yeah, that's a Trinta.

[781] No, that's a venti.

[782] I get the one above that.

[783] They don't even have the numbers for that.

[784] But this is saying a 20 ounce has 415 milligrams of caffeine.

[785] I would be in tachycardia.

[786] Holy shit.

[787] Is that real?

[788] Ice coffee's more, I believe.

[789] Yeah, look at this.

[790] Decaf has 30 milligrams.

[791] Yeah.

[792] What the fuck is that?

[793] Decaf always has a little.

[794] Yeah, I know, but 30 milligram?

[795] I thought it was like five or something.

[796] I thought it was like trace amount.

[797] See what the ice coffee is.

[798] I believe it's a lot more.

[799] Really?

[800] Yeah.

[801] I get the Trentas or usually.

[802] How is that possible?

[803] The cold brew.

[804] Cold brew, 3 .30.

[805] Well, I guess it's not more.

[806] But I get the Trenta version, so that's probably more.

[807] Yeah.

[808] They can't keep serving you like that.

[809] They're going to have to pull back.

[810] See, that's the thing is I agree, but then my libertarian side doesn't agree.

[811] Well, I didn't think he should drink that shit all day if you want.

[812] Of course.

[813] My friend Dave Foley used to drink pots of coffee.

[814] Pots.

[815] Like, all day.

[816] He'd drink pots of coffee.

[817] He had to stop putting cream in because he realized he was drinking a quart of cream a day.

[818] I think of that.

[819] Every time I pour cream in my coffee, I think of your story telling me about that.

[820] A quart of cream?

[821] Just from coffee.

[822] Yeah, I like that fresh, heavy cream in my coffee, too, man. That's what I'm talking about.

[823] Like a dark roast Hawaiian coffee with some heavy cream.

[824] Talk slow.

[825] Talk slow.

[826] Oh, you motherfucker, you're going to make me feel good.

[827] That's what Starbucks is now doing that.

[828] They're doing it with their cold brew coffee.

[829] They have like a heavy cream that's like caramel or something.

[830] They mix through it.

[831] Nice.

[832] Nice.

[833] Yeah, the cigarettes and coffee thing are the staples of the alcoholics, right?

[834] A lot of AA people enjoy those cigarettes and they enjoy those coffee.

[835] But, you know, in their eyes, yeah, but in their eyes, they feel like they've got the alcohol part under wraps now because this stuff just kind of keeps them going and this stuff is not ruining their life.

[836] Right.

[837] I get it.

[838] A lot of alcohols use cannabis the same way, and that's not really accepted by AA.

[839] So I know a lot of people who have kicked their alcoholism by moving more towards cannabis, but again, within the AA community that they don't like that.

[840] that's, you know, still considered a drug, so...

[841] But you can get addicted to anything, you know, whether it's porn or Big Macs or weed.

[842] You can get psychologically addicted to anything.

[843] Jamie, didn't the guy who created Alcoholics Anonymous, didn't he have positive experiences with LSD?

[844] That'd be funny.

[845] I feel like he did.

[846] Acid's the only thing you're allowed to take, guys.

[847] Well, I feel like that was something that happened, like maybe even...

[848] after I don't want to speak out of school yeah am I right yeah so what the fuck well that's why the government needs to lift testing on a lot of things so we know scroll that up please Alcoholics Anonymous founder believed LSD could cure alcoholism wow well you're seeing so much research now in psychedelics that clinics are opening up there's a clinic in in L .A. for ketamine You know, and you're seeing MDMA clinics opening up.

[849] Look at this.

[850] What most of them do not realize is the program's co -founder, Bill Wilson, credited the psychedelic drug LSD for alleviating his alcoholism and believed the drug could be used to treat others as well.

[851] Holy shit.

[852] So those friends of Bill, they didn't get all the information.

[853] You're friends of Bill if you're in the Alcoholics Anonymous, right?

[854] That's what they call themselves.

[855] Like Friends of Bill?

[856] That's like the code.

[857] Bill W. They didn't get that experience.

[858] It's kind of like the mushrooms and quitting cigarettes.

[859] Yeah.

[860] But do you think they tell them?

[861] I never heard this before today.

[862] How could you not tell these people?

[863] Wilson first began experimenting with LSD in Los Angeles at the Veterans Administration back in 1956.

[864] But after taking his first hit of acid, he realized that it was not the aspect of terror that could help remedy alcoholism, but rather the insight one could attain from stepping into a world of simulated insanity.

[865] Whoa.

[866] Wilson believed that using the LSD could help the alcoholic discover a power greater than ourselves that in turn could restore us to sanity.

[867] However, he was adamant that using acid to combat the demons of alcoholism was not something that one could expect from a single dose.

[868] He's like, more research is required.

[869] And snacks.

[870] Wow.

[871] Hmm.

[872] That's interesting, man. That's interesting.

[873] Yeah, psychedelics, I think.

[874] as we experiment with them like medically are going to reveal some secrets to our consciousness.

[875] This guy's a heavy -duty tripper as they're going further down.

[876] He was tripping with Aldous Huxley.

[877] Like this guy, this isn't like one experience he had.

[878] Interesting, there's documentation that indicates Wilson was involved with many supervised LSD trials including some with psychology, psychologist Betty Eisner and Brave New World author Aldous Hux.

[879] Which led him to believe that the visions and insights given by LSD could create a large incentive at least in a considerable number of people.

[880] Huh.

[881] And Huxley was like a leader in psychedelic.

[882] They left this out of the AA pamphlet.

[883] How could they leave this out?

[884] That's crazy because this seems like this had to play a major part in this guy's ability to kick alcohol.

[885] Well, it seems like every major religion also left out the psychedelics that probably created them as well.

[886] So I think, you know, you have, I think a lot of times you got to leave out the stuff that you think people aren't going to follow you for.

[887] Wait a minute, you're seeing Alcoholics Anonymous as a religion.

[888] Is that what you just said?

[889] You son of a bitch.

[890] I can't even believe you, Gina.

[891] I thought we're friends.

[892] That is, um, that is really wild, man. That's really interesting stuff.

[893] But it totally, it totally makes sense that it could help you kick an addiction.

[894] That between being intoxicated on it and what it feels like to be normal and this rethinking, like a reset button.

[895] That's what all the psychedelics provide that's really beneficial.

[896] Besides being fun, they all provide that reset that takes you so far out of who you are right now that when you come back, you go, man, am I doing this the right way?

[897] Right.

[898] You know, now that I'm back to sober reality, do I need to refocus?

[899] Disconnection from your own ego.

[900] Yeah.

[901] Probably a good idea.

[902] You know, and you have the organization, MAPS, you had the guy from MAPS on the podcast who's, that does the psychedelic research.

[903] I forgot what asked.

[904] Rick Doblin?

[905] Yes.

[906] So just recently, he, they got authorized from the federal government to start doing research on cannabis for the first time.

[907] The federal, federal ban was lifted, and it was because of MAPS.

[908] that they were able to get that.

[909] They were the first ones granted that federal research on cannabis.

[910] So it's in very similar ways.

[911] We need to do research on LSD.

[912] We need to do research on psilocybin because there could be medical effects that, just like cannabis, we're just denying because of years of, you know, this is the way it was.

[913] They're bad.

[914] They're bad.

[915] Jamie, put that back up.

[916] That quote about Bill.

[917] This is crazy.

[918] Look at this.

[919] It says, unfortunately, LSD made its way into the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous simply because others in a hierarchy, hierarchy, did not support it as a viable treatment.

[920] In fact, a document published in 1984 by Alcoholics Anonymous World Services in New York explained that the reason the program does not endorse the use of LSD, as word of Bill's activity, this is all in quotes, as word of Bill's activities reached the fellowship, there were inevitable repercussions.

[921] Most AAs were violently opposed to his experimenting with a mind -altering substance.

[922] LSD was then totally unfamiliar, poorly researched, and entirely experimental.

[923] Dot, dot, dot, and Bill was taking it, end quote.

[924] Boner pills.

[925] They were scared.

[926] They were all scared that this guy was tripping.

[927] That's hilarious.

[928] So they didn't want to include it, even though the founder of the program found it massively beneficial.

[929] And it's almost ironic that, that, you know, that.

[930] But if a user...

[931] He was trying to put it in there and they kicked them out, basically.

[932] Really?

[933] Yeah, that's what this is up here?

[934] Oh, yeah.

[935] He's got a lot of resistance, so I got to step down.

[936] He was chastised for...

[937] Wow, that's hilarious.

[938] Isn't that crazy?

[939] Because Timothy...

[940] Well, Terrence McKenna attributed this quote to Timothy Leary, but Timothy Leary said he never said it.

[941] So nobody knows exactly who said it.

[942] But that LSD causes violent reactions to people who have never tried it.

[943] What?

[944] Well, that's very interesting.

[945] The people that haven't tried it.

[946] are the ones that are freaking out.

[947] I get it.

[948] Not the people who were on it.

[949] Do you think LSD, though, for real, can solve anything?

[950] I've done it maybe over 200 times.

[951] You might not be the best example.

[952] Also, when you were taking it 200 times, a lot of that was recreational.

[953] But I'm sure there was small little things that I was probably going through that I could have used LSD to help me. Like as an example, I took LSD once after a big breakup.

[954] Did it help me get through that breakup?

[955] No, it did nothing for my breakup, you know?

[956] Were you concentrating on it to try to use it that way?

[957] That's the thing.

[958] It's also going to go with your own intention probably.

[959] Yeah, but it's not, it doesn't work for you.

[960] It's not like, hey, hey, clean out my life.

[961] I'm going to take some acid just.

[962] Right.

[963] No, you got to do the work yourself.

[964] I just don't see an effort.

[965] It represents all these psychedelics, like the good experiences of the bad experiences, represent what's the state of mind when you go into them.

[966] That's why the people that take it like really seriously and they go through this all meditative ritual and they'll do yoga and they'll do breathing exercises and they'll set like a tone to whatever they would like to go into this experience with and say that they're going into the experience open and humble and say all these things out loud and then they enter into the psychedelic trip.

[967] Like they do it that way because they want to set like an intention.

[968] If you just broke up with a girl and you take acid, you really think acid is going to fix anything because it didn't help me. when I broke up my girl like that's really what you're saying but you could also be like hey I want to quit smoking take acid being like what happened did you quit smoking and like I don't know I focused on cigarettes and then the whole place melted and then my hand turned into a bunch of snakes so no I still want cigarettes again it's not you're you you don't really want to quit if you wanted to quit you would just quit right but I don't think the acid has anything to do with it doesn't help you it's not going to just decide for you like it depends on what's the intention that you go into taking any psychedelic whether it's mushrooms or whatever.

[969] What's the intention that you go into this trip with?

[970] You can't think like acid doesn't work because it didn't help me quit smoking.

[971] Like you didn't help you quit smoking.

[972] Like these are decisions that you make.

[973] Yeah, I just don't see how acid, unless it's really bad acid that you'll remember anything except melty stuff and like walls melting and lizards.

[974] I just don't see any kind of help.

[975] On our lesser level, do you feel like cannabis has changed your personality uh because you know that is something you might not go into saying all right i broke up what's on i'm going to smoke weed for but throughout your lifetime has cannabis had an effect on you that you feel like it's changed your personality i've been smoking since i was like 14 15 so i don't even know what my personality was before if anything i think marijuana made me more paranoid and scared you know i was more like freaked out and stuff but as a medicine for like headaches and i don't take almost any pills now i don't have time I don't know in my house anymore.

[976] If I have a headache, I use weed.

[977] So for that, it has helped me tremendously.

[978] But personality -wise, probably not.

[979] It probably made me more paranoid and awful as a person when smoking it.

[980] Because I'm, you know, I get panicky.

[981] You know, if I'm super stoned in a room of people, it's not helping me at all.

[982] It's making it worse, if anything.

[983] What about you, Joe?

[984] You started later, you know, you didn't start as a teenager.

[985] So do you feel like it's made a difference on who you are?

[986] Yeah, absolutely.

[987] Yeah, it changes your perspective.

[988] It offers you a different frequency of insight, I would say.

[989] I think that one of the things that's done that's good is it makes me consider things that I might not be thinking about.

[990] And it gives you almost, it illuminates areas of your consciousness that maybe you weren't paying attention to.

[991] It's made me a nicer guy.

[992] Yeah.

[993] Like I'm kind of a type A high -strung guy.

[994] And, like, if there's an employee that I just want to strangle, I can take a hit of an O .G. And suddenly be like, you know, he's, he's all right.

[995] He's had him on a hard day.

[996] Exactly.

[997] Instead of accelerating that kind of behavior or shitty behavior, it definitely makes you more inclined towards fellowship and kindness.

[998] It's just a really good chemical, you know, it's a really good reaction that your mind has to this natural plant.

[999] For creative reasons, 100%.

[1000] Yeah.

[1001] It definitely opens up a different pathway in your head.

[1002] I like it for everything.

[1003] I like it for a lot of different things.

[1004] I like it.

[1005] But for creative reasons, it's one of the best things.

[1006] Sure.

[1007] You know, a lot of our celebrity patients that are, you know, working in comedy or music or television or the movies.

[1008] They want Sativas specifically, so they're not down at all because, you know, Sativas are more known for their creativity and things like that.

[1009] So we find people who are working in the creative field, they want to smoke sativas, you know, which is an important distinction between Indica's and Sativas.

[1010] A lot of people don't know that different types of marijuana can affect you differently, you know, and there are some people who are medicating for certain ailments.

[1011] Well, they should smoke something that specifically works for those ailments.

[1012] If you're smoking because you're looking for creativity, because you're looking for that, you know, you don't want to lay on the couch and go to sleep, then you should smoke Cetivas.

[1013] If you are looking for that, it's nighttime.

[1014] I want to relax, you know, time to go to bed.

[1015] You should smoke indicas because that's going to bring you down and give you that body high with the CBD chemical that's inside.

[1016] Yep, that's what I want.

[1017] I'm like, Brian, I get, I get jumpy with Steve.

[1018] I get a little bit freaked out, a little paranoid.

[1019] Why don't your pussies move in together.

[1020] Hey.

[1021] I think we're neighbors, actually.

[1022] Yeah, here we are.

[1023] Yeah, I, no, look, we've all been too high.

[1024] You know, everybody's been too high.

[1025] You know, one of the, it was like a famous scientist, it wasn't Carl Sagan, it was some of the famous scientist.

[1026] It was a, those theoretical mathematician guys who writes all that crazy scribble shit.

[1027] He would just, he would just talk about it.

[1028] he likes one hit that's what he likes to take just one hit just go for a walk all these ideas would come to him it's like you don't have to get fucking blasted just one hit that's why I was so against it at first is because I thought one hit made you really fucked up because that's how I saw Gino but it turned out Gino would say you were such a dick to me when I smoked weed in your house that I have to go outside smoke a whole joint in two minutes and come in and be a mess so that was what I was exposed to is I don't want any of that I didn't realize you could just take one hit and just chill out and still work and still function nobody knows and it makes people nicer it definitely does it did for me yeah you know i think um you know to say that uh what are the medical effects what what are you what are you treating yourself for it's almost silly to say because everyone else who's not really treating themselves for a cancer or something like that they are getting mood regulation out of it so even if you want to call it recreational smoking, you're still getting mood regulation out of it.

[1029] And those people who smoke it almost daily or on whatever schedule they smoke it on, they might be on percocet.

[1030] They might be on, you know, wellbutrin.

[1031] They might be on a million other drugs.

[1032] So to say that recreational use is people just getting high, that's also not accepting that people are looking for mood regulation as a medical effect.

[1033] Yeah, and we already have it.

[1034] We already have it with coffee.

[1035] Coffee, nicotine, booze, that's all medicinal.

[1036] There's so many different things we already accept.

[1037] Sugar.

[1038] Yeah.

[1039] Well, sugar is a scariest one.

[1040] That shit's everywhere.

[1041] Once you start paying attention to it.

[1042] But the idea is that you should be able to do whatever you want.

[1043] If you want to eat candy bars all day, that should be completely up to you.

[1044] And that's not where we are, you know.

[1045] And the fact that's not where we are.

[1046] with one of the most beneficial plants the world's ever known, because that's really what it is.

[1047] Especially since its connection to hemp, it's the most beneficial plant the world's ever known.

[1048] And it's illegal.

[1049] I mean, that doesn't show you how stupid people are.

[1050] I mean, we're so goddamn goofy.

[1051] We are.

[1052] And it's going to get worse before it gets better, unfortunately.

[1053] You think?

[1054] Because the laws are such a mess right now.

[1055] Listen, Hillary Clinton's going to fix everything.

[1056] She gets in office.

[1057] She's going to be great.

[1058] She's always been top shelf.

[1059] It's going to be fine Well, who?

[1060] Donald Trump?

[1061] Is he going to fix it?

[1062] I don't think he cares.

[1063] Does he care?

[1064] I know he doesn't care.

[1065] I know that for a fact.

[1066] Do you think he would legalize marijuana nationwide?

[1067] I get a lot of stoneers to switch gears.

[1068] No, what scares me is, what if he makes Chris Christie the Attorney General?

[1069] That would be bad.

[1070] It would be hilarious.

[1071] Oh, it would be so bad for my business, dude.

[1072] That would be bad.

[1073] It would be hilarious.

[1074] That guy's not going to be the Attorney General.

[1075] If he's not the Attorney General, I'll take anybody.

[1076] Whoever you got.

[1077] So foolish.

[1078] He's so foolish.

[1079] His opinions on marijuana while consuming copious amounts of sugar in public.

[1080] They're so ridiculous.

[1081] They're ridiculous.

[1082] He put a bag of M &Ms inside his M &Ms after you had stomach surgery.

[1083] I mean, he's a crazy person.

[1084] This guy's addicted to sugar, 100%.

[1085] That's clear.

[1086] So no way you stay that big unless you're eating terrible.

[1087] That's just it.

[1088] But he'll go with one thing is legal, one thing is not.

[1089] End of story.

[1090] He's an insane person.

[1091] But that's what we're fighting with the city.

[1092] This is the law, end of story.

[1093] Yeah.

[1094] It's crazy.

[1095] He can't even win the Democratic side anymore.

[1096] Still voting for Gary, man. Gary Johnson.

[1097] Yeah, Gary Johnson is a better, it's almost a, well, it's a more likely vote than Bernie at this point.

[1098] I just don't think, like, physically he can win.

[1099] What could happen, though, is he and Hillary could team up, and they would be a formidable two -sum.

[1100] That would be Hillary, and then he would be the vice president.

[1101] That could be crazy, though.

[1102] That's so left.

[1103] If they said any nasty shit to each other, that's where you're talking.

[1104] They're not too bad.

[1105] You've got to curb your words when you're running.

[1106] You've got to make sure that you don't get too negative so that you could join forces.

[1107] Would they put a socialist on the ticket in the United States of America?

[1108] Well, he's a democratic socialist.

[1109] It's not entirely like a socialist.

[1110] Well, to beat Trump, I think they might do it.

[1111] It's tricky.

[1112] It's tricky.

[1113] But he does have the support of the youth.

[1114] You know, he's got people fired up socially.

[1115] He sits down with people like Killer Mike and has long -term interviews.

[1116] You know, he's interesting.

[1117] He's interesting.

[1118] He's different.

[1119] He doesn't accept money from...

[1120] Look, I like a lot of what he stands for.

[1121] I agree with half of it.

[1122] I like him way better than I like her.

[1123] I'm not a big fan of the whole, like, long -term politicians.

[1124] I'm not a big fan of those kind of people.

[1125] It just seems like you just have too many compromises along the way.

[1126] There's too much, like, weaving in and out of the system.

[1127] And the more intertwined in the system, the more suspicious we should all be.

[1128] She's way more intertwined in the system than he is.

[1129] Here's an example.

[1130] Speedweed shut down by Proposition D, which was written by a lawyer who represents a bunch of dispensaries that are protected by Proposition D. Those are some dots.

[1131] You can connect them.

[1132] So an attorney writes a law that protects his clients and it gets passed.

[1133] How does that happen?

[1134] I don't know.

[1135] But I know the career politicians don't make things better, you know, for us.

[1136] Yeah, they only do if it's the will.

[1137] of the people and that's the only way they can stay in office, but usually it's not really just the will of the people.

[1138] It's the people aren't really paying attention.

[1139] It's the will of these corporations, they get involved, they're donating money, and the people don't even know what the fuck is happening while it's happening.

[1140] That's right.

[1141] Well, that's what we have exactly going on here.

[1142] You know, there's a lot of those laws, right?

[1143] Yeah.

[1144] Well, we're dealing with a lot of them.

[1145] You know, again, to say that, you know, a business had to be in operation before 2007 in order to be considered now, you know, now to be a viable business.

[1146] Well, if you were in operation in 2007, you were in that Wild West category.

[1147] So you were already skating that line.

[1148] Do you want the players that were bad players involved or do you want good companies that want to put in standard operating procedures that are looking for best practices?

[1149] Why wouldn't you want companies like that?

[1150] we just laid off 40 people that are now in unemployment 40 good people that really can't get decent jobs anywhere that were paid well above minimum wage are now just laid off and going on the government dollar because of this law that nobody knows about and nobody read you know and for us it came out a time where we were so excited about the future working with the board of equalization we were in our largest expansion at the time.

[1151] We were going from the largest market, which was L .A., to expanding throughout all of California, which we're still doing.

[1152] But we just now have to not include L .A., which was our main base.

[1153] So, and the law, what the law pertains to is you delivering things to people that live in homes because that home has not been cleared as a place to do business?

[1154] Because of the zoning law, only these 135 pre -ICOs are allowed to operate at all within the city.

[1155] Nobody else can join the club.

[1156] It's only that 135.

[1157] And any marijuana vehicle is an extension of the marijuana business.

[1158] So every car is zoned like a building.

[1159] So essentially they've limited the number of stores that can operate, the number of dispensaries.

[1160] And you guys got pushed out because you didn't have a few grandfathered in.

[1161] Well, that's number one, but number two is our base where our business is is not in the city limits of L .A. So by normal law for any other business, you follow the laws of the municipality you're in.

[1162] We just convey through the streets of L .A. And there's a law on the California books that says you can't stop someone, if your business is not in one municipality and you drive to another municipality to deliver something, you can't stop that.

[1163] So we're not even in L .A. and we have to have to deal with this.

[1164] We're outside the city of L .A. Because the city of L .A. encompasses Hollywood and a lot of L .A. But there are places that people think are L .A., like Beverly Hills or West Hollywood.

[1165] Those are in L .A. Well, our lawsuit says we're operating a sophisticated delivery company running about seven hubs out of the L .A. area.

[1166] It's like, well, where are the addresses on the lawsuit?

[1167] There are none because we don't have any locations.

[1168] inside the city.

[1169] We don't roll orders out of there, but it's not in the paperwork.

[1170] It's so goofy.

[1171] This is the scary problem with big government.

[1172] This is the problem with government that just has too many regulations and too much red tape and too much bullshit, stuff like this.

[1173] And there should be a balance of harm to our company that is trying to work within every regulation of California working with the state to create them.

[1174] You know, Well, let me ask you this.

[1175] When is it going to be legal?

[1176] Is it on the books to be tried in November?

[1177] In November, yes.

[1178] Well, we have to organize.

[1179] Like, this is an important thing for the future of mankind.

[1180] It must be done.

[1181] And unfortunately, there's even infighting within the cannabis industry.

[1182] Yeah, well, you know what the problem that I ran into when we were talking about the first legalization vote?

[1183] The growers didn't want it to be legal because they would make less money.

[1184] Of course.

[1185] The guys are growing illegal.

[1186] And I was like, wow.

[1187] And he's like, hey, man, I'm just just telling you the truth.

[1188] But we're at a point now that if we don't do that, they're going to get pushed out anyway by bigger corporations that will come in and be able to pay millions of dollars for licensing and buildings and things like that.

[1189] People are greedy and they're short -sighted.

[1190] You can't be greedy and you can't be short -sided.

[1191] This is a global issue.

[1192] And in these environments where these people are saying we're going to make less money, bullshit, expand.

[1193] It's going to be legal now, Duny.

[1194] Like, yeah, you're going to have competition.

[1195] So fucking, if you're making money, why do you care if other people are making money?

[1196] Why are you concentrating on that?

[1197] Just enjoy life.

[1198] You're going to have a bunch of pot -head millionaires around you.

[1199] Right.

[1200] And, you know, along those lines, as we were cultivating for our own patient base, we follow the California, the laws for California to cultivate.

[1201] Once local licensing started becoming possible for cultivation, it wasn't before the governor signed this bill last year.

[1202] Now it's becoming possible.

[1203] We went out and we're now participating with Desert Hot Springs for a legal cultivation.

[1204] So it's going to be a place where the police could come in.

[1205] The government could come in, inspect it.

[1206] So we're moving forward with full legalization on cultivation, as well.

[1207] well, paying everything you got to pay for, making sure that when you build your building, it's built to the right specs.

[1208] Again, the government's involved in every part of it.

[1209] So, again, we're moving forward with the regulations, even though it's going to cost us a lot of money.

[1210] The investment team that's behind it has already put $2 million in just to buy the property.

[1211] So it's going to cost a lot of money, and you're not going to make the money.

[1212] you know, millions of dollars that you're hoping for, but at least you're doing it in a way that can be regulated and you can open up your doors and not hide because we don't want to hide.

[1213] Everything we've ever done, we haven't hidden.

[1214] We've said everything in the media.

[1215] Hey, we're following regulations.

[1216] We're trying to do everything the right way.

[1217] We're paying the taxes we have to pay.

[1218] We're working.

[1219] Well, that's why we got sued is because if you sue Speedweed, that gets your name in the paper.

[1220] You sued the delivery, one of the other 400 delivery services that you can find operating right now today that are illegal.

[1221] That's not going to get your name in the paper in an election year.

[1222] Maybe it's a conspiracy theory, but all of the facts in our case are dated 2014.

[1223] We got served in 2016.

[1224] I don't know, is this a special year to politicians?

[1225] Maybe it's a special year.

[1226] Okay, hold on for a second.

[1227] So there are certain delivery companies that are allowed to operate inside L .A. No, nobody's allowed.

[1228] No one now.

[1229] But they are.

[1230] But they are.

[1231] But they do any one.

[1232] They do 400 illegal ones?

[1233] Yeah.

[1234] They're all illegal.

[1235] They're all illegal.

[1236] Snitches.

[1237] I know, I know.

[1238] Golden snitches.

[1239] So we're going to start doing overnight delivery with medical carriers to the entire state.

[1240] So Speedweed will deliver to anywhere in California that's allowed, not inside the city limits of L .A., but outside the city limits.

[1241] You're in Fresno.

[1242] You're in Sacramento, wherever you are.

[1243] Could a patient meet you at the border?

[1244] could you get like a taco stand at the border and you make a handoff?

[1245] Certain patients, baby.

[1246] Burbank in L .A.?

[1247] Burbank is not in L .A.?

[1248] Oh, so I can still get delivery?

[1249] You could until they tell the delivery services to stop.

[1250] But Burbank does not like the industry.

[1251] Just like Glendale and Pasadena do not like the industry.

[1252] Why is that?

[1253] It's the propaganda machine and it's, you know, law enforcement shows up at the city hall and start screaming about it.

[1254] If you have dispensaries, you're going to have crime.

[1255] Delivery is going to be a lot of cash and product in the cars.

[1256] You're bringing crime.

[1257] And they frighten the city council and the people that vote into saying, all right, so we don't want it here.

[1258] So let it happen in Echo Park where the hippies live.

[1259] We're here in Burbank with, you know, with the studios.

[1260] We don't want it in our town.

[1261] I think the studios would want it because so many of the actors are probably like, give me weed.

[1262] I need it to deliver it.

[1263] They do.

[1264] They do.

[1265] We've delivered, like, on movie sets.

[1266] You know, of course they do.

[1267] Some of those roles that people play, probably have to be high as fuck to do it, right?

[1268] I wonder if Daniel Day Lewis smokes weed.

[1269] Fuck, yeah, he does.

[1270] We can't talk about privacy of certain patients, but...

[1271] What are trying to say it?

[1272] I'm not trying to say anything.

[1273] I'm saying a lot of the actors you would think are smoking weed while they're acting.

[1274] They are.

[1275] Interesting.

[1276] Of course they are.

[1277] I know several.

[1278] We don't have to name names, but I know a lot of people get super high as fuck right before they do a scene.

[1279] sure kind of makes sense you know i mean you've introduced me to some so certainly certainly you know um and uh there's just as many that you would never suspect that that guy is a everyday smoker and they are and um and that's because you know there's still stigma and when you're living in a public life you need privacy and that's one of the reasons you need delivery because some of my my patient bases if they walked into a dispensary they're going to lose endorsements and sponsor money because they're on family shows, things like that.

[1280] Well, how is that fair to them?

[1281] They need their medication.

[1282] They need safe access to their medication.

[1283] They can't...

[1284] You're saying it all grand, dude.

[1285] They're trying to get high.

[1286] Settle the fuck down.

[1287] I know.

[1288] They need their medication.

[1289] They're dying.

[1290] It's anti -venom.

[1291] We have to protect it to him quickly.

[1292] Our Disney kids.

[1293] The poison of society is seeped it deep into his brains.

[1294] Joe, have you been to Denver yet?

[1295] Since the league.

[1296] I was just there like four months ago, five months ago, something like that.

[1297] So just walking down the street, just walking to anything.

[1298] Pop places everywhere.

[1299] They're all over the place.

[1300] It's like Amsterdam.

[1301] It's like some weird, new American Amsterdam.

[1302] And there's so much money.

[1303] Real estate prices are skyrocketing.

[1304] Real estate prices are up like 19%.

[1305] How's the prices?

[1306] Like it's to say like a joint in Denver.

[1307] Do you have any idea?

[1308] It's more expensive than it is here.

[1309] And they do have different pricing for medical, as they do for recreational.

[1310] We went over that with taxes.

[1311] It's 39 % taxes versus, I think, like, nine.

[1312] Yeah.

[1313] However, you know, I've been there plenty of times, and the weed here in Southern California is still the best that I've seen in the world.

[1314] How is that possible?

[1315] It seems like Denver would have the best climate.

[1316] Everybody needs to fucking relax on this big dick measuring competition between states and their weed.

[1317] We were in Pittsburgh.

[1318] No, we were in Philly, and we got high with this dude.

[1319] at a radio station gave us a joint and we were like some Philly weed I'll just smoke the fuck out of this Philly weed This ain't gonna do shit And like 20 minutes later We were like dude We made a mistake This Philly weed is legit I think there's an answer to that though Is that the best weed In Colorado is still black market So Okay Maybe But come up Philly was illegal You guys were so fucking strong You guys are crazy talk This is, you're talking for the deepest of the deep and the deep end of the pool.

[1320] That's what you're talking.

[1321] All the pot, whether it's Colorado or California, will put you on fucking Pluto, all of it.

[1322] No doubt.

[1323] And the difference between two hits of Colorado pot and two hits of California pot is if you can measure that, write a book.

[1324] And it's the joint you had.

[1325] Like, what if you had like three joints?

[1326] Those were just the three shittiest joints in Colorado.

[1327] I don't buy it.

[1328] I was in Colorado.

[1329] I had some of their weed.

[1330] I'll be there Thursday.

[1331] It's fucking ridiculous.

[1332] It's ridiculous.

[1333] It's like, it's super weed.

[1334] It's all the same shit.

[1335] All these strains have gotten everywhere.

[1336] Yeah.

[1337] You know, they're all over the country.

[1338] They have this shit in New York now.

[1339] Yeah.

[1340] Does the weed, do you get higher because of the elevation for weed?

[1341] Yeah, you have no air.

[1342] So it's probably just shitty weed.

[1343] No, no, no. The alcohol gets you drunker, too.

[1344] That's a big one.

[1345] But it's just, it's just good.

[1346] Weed's great.

[1347] It's everywhere.

[1348] because of social media it's becoming to a point where you just can't deny it i thought we were already there we're very close to it um and as um politicians get older and pushed out and younger politicians get in the toothpaste is out of the tube it's not going backwards so uh you know for la to be behind the times of the rest of the state and for california the most progressive state in the country to be behind the times of states like Colorado and Alaska who are making tax money.

[1349] It's the money.

[1350] The money and the politics is too intertwined.

[1351] It's too, it's part of the fabric of our society and it's broken.

[1352] Yeah, it is.

[1353] And hopefully it's going to be eventually pushed out.

[1354] But right now, you know, you have to deal with one of the most ridiculous examples of it, which is marijuana.

[1355] It's one of the most ridiculous examples of all sorts of problems that I'm sure all sorts of businesses run into all across the country that we don't consider because it doesn't play a part in our lives but this one does and this one is really a nationwide freedom issue i mean that's that's really what a lot of it's about it's a freedom of consciousness issue and uh people don't look at it like that they look at it like it's law enforcement it's this it's crime it's this it's children it's this no it's not what it is it's it's a freedom of social consciousness it's a freedom of being able to express yourself and a freedom of being able to intoxicate yourself with a natural plant and then what comes out of that.

[1356] And that's what everybody was worried about more than anything in like the 1970s.

[1357] What they were worried about in the 60s and the 70s is what was coming out of this?

[1358] They weren't worried about the consequences of taking this drug.

[1359] They were worried about what's coming out of this.

[1360] You're getting all these people that just won't tolerate all the usual standard shit because they're constantly resetting themselves and then reconsidering their environment and they're coming out with this whole new movement of people like all the hate ashbury shit in the 60s and you know all the the the music of the time so much of that had to do with pot and so much of that had to do with LSD sure they were just terrified of that shit they were I when we talk about the war on drugs and people like blame Nancy Reagan that started with Nixon yeah you know in the late 60s early 70s and now the new stuff has come out I'm sure you've seen it where they're saying the Nix administration purposely targeted marijuana because they were really going after the civil rights leaders and the people that were anti -war movement.

[1361] Yes.

[1362] So they would arrest them through pot and that would be the back door to just break up these organizations and that this was a strategy they had.

[1363] To the point that they asked universities to pull cannabis information that was positive.

[1364] I mean, that's...

[1365] Yeah.

[1366] They funded studies trying to find things wrong with pot and all they found was good shit.

[1367] Right.

[1368] The Donald Tashkin study is one that I love where that study was to find the connection.

[1369] between lung cancer and smoking cannabis, and it turned out he could find no connection and actually showed that there could be a protective effect of cannabis.

[1370] That's how I'm still alive.

[1371] Maybe a lot of people like you that smoke cigarettes and smoke pot, it might actually even it.

[1372] Yeah, started at the same time.

[1373] I have a patient with double lung transplant.

[1374] He had...

[1375] Jesus.

[1376] What it was?

[1377] Fiber...

[1378] Myalgia.

[1379] So he has double lung transplant.

[1380] We were doing an interview with a magazine, and I had him there, and he showed, I take these 45 pills a day for, you know, what I have.

[1381] Or I could eat these three edibles, and he's like, 45 pills a day.

[1382] It's crazy just trying to swallow them.

[1383] But he said, these cost me thousands of dollars.

[1384] However, I don't pay for him because it's paid by insurance.

[1385] these I pay almost $45, $50 a day in edibles and I could just eat those instead.

[1386] However, none of this is paid for and I don't have the money to pay $50 a day for my medication.

[1387] So he's one of the patients that we help out with free product and you know because he can't afford to live.

[1388] That's the pharmaceutical side of this conversation is just a whole other side of it.

[1389] It's very nice of you to give that to him, by the way.

[1390] But hearing that he's eating $45 worth of edibles a day makes me want to shit my pants.

[1391] That's scary.

[1392] Like, what kind of a tornado of consciousness is this guy flying around in all day?

[1393] How many milligrams are we talking?

[1394] For 45 bucks worth of weed, how many milligrams is this motherfucker taken in?

[1395] Yeah.

[1396] You know, you have no lungs.

[1397] You take whatever you need to do to get through that day.

[1398] Yeah, no, for sure.

[1399] But I'm thinking $45 where the chiba choose would put you in another dimension.

[1400] Right?

[1401] Come on, son.

[1402] There's a shit hacky sack?

[1403] You know, we're talking somewhere around 500 milligrams a day.

[1404] So it's not tremendous.

[1405] I mean, I've seen Joey Diaz, even a thousand at a time.

[1406] That's insane.

[1407] But if he's getting Chee -Bichu's, which are like a really potent and easy way to get them, $45 is not 500 milligrams.

[1408] You can get one 500 milligram one for a lot less than that, right?

[1409] For how much of those costs?

[1410] Yeah, yeah.

[1411] So if this guy's spent $45 and he's buying the good.

[1412] shit.

[1413] Jesus, Louises, he might be on a 5, 500 milligram chiba -chua day diet.

[1414] I want to meet this dude, shake his hand.

[1415] He's a pioneer.

[1416] He's a pioneer.

[1417] I can't live in that world.

[1418] That's a good man. That's a lot of sugar probably also.

[1419] Oh, whatever.

[1420] Don't be a pussy.

[1421] All of a sudden, you're worried about sugar.

[1422] This fucking guy's living in an alternate dimension.

[1423] He's looking at us through a fucking aquarium window.

[1424] He's not even here.

[1425] If he's eating that much pot, you're talking about that many milligrams and then it's getting processed so you've got to think about it way stronger than just smoking it right?

[1426] It is I mean I had a bad edible strip and I went five years without even touching it even though we had them on the menu I was like dude I won't even want to smell one of those tootsie rolls or whatever the hell it is I don't want nothing to do with it because I was in another place for like two days high just going when is it going to end I mean we started as an edible's company before we were speedweed And we were one of the first, we were the first company to do gummy bears.

[1427] And when we were making them, it's, you know, my brother is my partner with his wife, Jen, also.

[1428] A .J. figured out a way to extract THC from weed.

[1429] This is six years ago before anyone was doing it.

[1430] Because we had a failed crop because when I moved to California, we got our cards.

[1431] I said, I'm just going to throw up a grow.

[1432] and now I'm allowed to grow here I'll make a few others I'm gonna throw up a grow I never heard that I need to start saying shit like that get together with my friends wake so so AJ said that's great where are we gonna do it I said I'm gonna do it in your living room so I took over his living room with tents and I put up a grow and it didn't and since I was going back and forth to New York selling my house every two weeks he was watching it while I was gone well it was a disaster it was the worst experience you know growing pot with all of our money and I'm on the phone with Gino going the leaves are yellow he's like all right are the veins red I don't know what we're talking about because it needs more nitrogen you're irresponsible motherfucker you can't just leave this do with your plants no he's like go get more nitrogen I'm like how do I get my baby for me take my baby just feed it when it cries so I got to go I got back from from a trip late into my growth cycle and I opened it up and you see webs well those aren't spiders those are spider mites yeah and that's the worst thing you could ever ever get i grew in ohio lost my whole entire crop spent like months growing this scared of helicopters with the heat seeking thing and yeah mites destroyed all our money was sunk into this um you know all of uh four months time uh to make it happen and i was just defeated i i can't believe it what are we going to do and so we had to fight it to fight those spider mites we did everything we could including buying 10 000 ladybugs which you eat these things and releasing them in this tent a foot from where I'm sleeping on his couch.

[1433] I bought them on Amazon.

[1434] I bought like a zillion ladybugs on Amazon and we just released them into my living room.

[1435] Yeah, we buy them all the time.

[1436] Seriously?

[1437] I didn't even do.

[1438] They have a bunch of different plants that I grow so we buy ladybugs.

[1439] Yeah, and they worked, but they didn't exactly work fast enough and they were dying because we had CO2 and so we had to get predator mites, which were other little creepycrawly things that we had to release right where I was sleeping.

[1440] So we released...

[1441] Jurassic Park.

[1442] It was.

[1443] It's exactly what it was.

[1444] Well, seriously, if you could look at it under a microscope, it would be like some sort of a fucking stormship troopers, starship troopers?

[1445] That's what it looked like.

[1446] You know, the Lord of the Rings.

[1447] Things were flying down, eating each other, things were climbing up, and they were like...

[1448] And so what happened?

[1449] What's the long story?

[1450] So we got rid of them and had bad weed.

[1451] We extracted it.

[1452] AJ read some papers online.

[1453] We extracted.

[1454] I said, what are we going to do with this?

[1455] And we said, all right, let's make some edibles.

[1456] so his wife so hold on it's bad weed bad weed so you can't sell it because you can't smoke it yeah but you can still turn into edibles it looked like shit out of out of a litter box it was garbage Benchino's like fuck it I'm smoking it but I'm confused explain like why did it look bad because the mites chewed it up like what yeah ladybug wing ladybug wings here's the thing really yeah so so there's also things called neem oil which is a natural pesticide that also helps in killing these things.

[1457] However, in a growth cycle, you shouldn't use it near the end because then it's going to be on the flowers that you have to smoke.

[1458] However, if you extract the THC out of it, it's no longer on that plant material.

[1459] You're getting rid of the plant material.

[1460] The neem oil that's on it won't translate into an extraction.

[1461] Oh, okay.

[1462] So you use the pesticide, unfortunately, late in the cycle and it made the pot bad to smoke, but you can still extract the THC from it.

[1463] Right.

[1464] It's a natural oil.

[1465] It works as a pesticide, but...

[1466] so baffled.

[1467] I was like, how is it bad weed and then it's good weed?

[1468] So, um...

[1469] Bad weed, good gummy bears.

[1470] Yeah, so...

[1471] Oh, okay.

[1472] So I started going to...

[1473] What is the process of extracting THC from the flowers?

[1474] It's like breaking bad.

[1475] Is it?

[1476] Yeah, my kitchen looked like a meth lab for like three months.

[1477] It's crazy.

[1478] We had a sock slid...

[1479] So you had to...

[1480] Have you done this before?

[1481] Were you experimenting?

[1482] Did you watch a YouTube video?

[1483] I had no idea it even existed.

[1484] I found a paper from like 1976 or UCLA scientists that multi -solver an extraction of cannabinoids.

[1485] You can find it online.

[1486] And it was like, this is a how -to manual and how to do extraction.

[1487] Okay, hold on.

[1488] Neither one of you guys are scientists.

[1489] We were technology guys.

[1490] Okay.

[1491] You're not a scientist, right?

[1492] No, I got very...

[1493] No, I'm techie.

[1494] I'm good at homework.

[1495] Had you ever done any chemical work like that, using solvents and extracting elements from plants?

[1496] Not professionally.

[1497] He's a humble.

[1498] He's a member of Mensa.

[1499] I got very blessed to have a brother who's very intelligent.

[1500] You know, so I was just defeated, you know.

[1501] I got a bad crop.

[1502] I wasted all our money.

[1503] I wasted our time.

[1504] He turned lemons into lemonade because luckily he's smart enough to say, what else can we do with this?

[1505] And he went out and found a way for us to utilize it.

[1506] So did you practice or did you just dive right in?

[1507] How did you do this?

[1508] It was like a six -week R &D process.

[1509] So we did the extraction through with all kinds of different chemicals.

[1510] Right.

[1511] Ultimately, ethanol worked really well.

[1512] And then every night at 11, I would give Gino a dose, like on a cookie or something at 11.

[1513] And then I would wait 45 minutes.

[1514] Did you have it locked up in your basement, too?

[1515] Every night, give him a gift.

[1516] 11 o 'clock, you said.

[1517] Give Gino food.

[1518] It rubs the lotion on the skin.

[1519] Every night.

[1520] And then finally one day, I give Gino the dose.

[1521] 1145, I say, how you feel?

[1522] And he goes, I don't think it's working.

[1523] I was like, boom.

[1524] That's it.

[1525] That's the recipe.

[1526] And it's in my journal.

[1527] And that was kind of how we got into the industry was with that extraction process, that recipe that day.

[1528] Now, I've always wondered like this.

[1529] When you use all those chemicals and you extract something from a plant, are those chemicals in any way?

[1530] Is there a residue on the extraction?

[1531] Depends.

[1532] We were using ethanol, which is alcohol.

[1533] But then we were making candy, which burns off the alcohol.

[1534] So there's no alcohol in the candy, but now you have the THC, which is inside the candy.

[1535] and now you can and now we would we were de -carboxylating the flour before anybody was doing that and what that means is you activate the flour like you can't just take bud and eat it and get stone it won't work right but if you why is that because you need to something fat soluble yes you need to convert it to THC acid so you do that with heat so you smoke it or you do that with fat like lipids you boil it in butter make brownies so the fuck did people figure that out it's it's brilliant it's genius or you could do it with alcohol And that's ultimately what we use was alcohol extract.

[1536] Butane works as well.

[1537] What I mean is how the fuck did people figure out that you had to burn it in order to use it?

[1538] Because they're probably eating it long before they knew it could get you high.

[1539] Well, I mean, right?

[1540] Civilization's amazing.

[1541] Like, how do they figure out if we eat this root?

[1542] Ayahuasca works, but otherwise, it doesn't.

[1543] You know?

[1544] The trees told us.

[1545] That's probably true.

[1546] They use tobacco in those ayahuasca rituals, apparently.

[1547] Right before you go under They blow tobacco smoke on your face Just to get you ready to vomit Yeah well I don't even know if it's that I think it's the stimulating effect of the nicotine Has some sort of a kickstart Like Terrence McKenna when he would take mushrooms What he would do is he would take them And then he would wait They kick in like an hour or so So while he was waiting for them to kick in He was just roll joints This motherfucker would roll joints for an hour And then and then start going Start going And when the pot really kicked in, like when he would get really, really high, that would be right when the mushrooms would come in, like a giant tide of wave.

[1548] And he said he could see it coming.

[1549] He could see it coming.

[1550] You could feel it in the ground.

[1551] And it seemed like there's no way no one else is experiencing this.

[1552] It's just like this gigantic wave is coming, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

[1553] And that's how he would do it.

[1554] So he would use marijuana smoke to sort of instigate the mushroom experience, which totally makes sense.

[1555] It does.

[1556] But that's a warrior, that it will do that kind of experimentation.

[1557] That dude went deep.

[1558] He went deep, maybe too much.

[1559] He died of a brain cancer, a brain tumor.

[1560] I mean, who knows if that was hereditary?

[1561] Who knows if that was, you know, it related in any way to expanding consciousness or attempting to expanding consciousness through drugs?

[1562] Most likely not, especially.

[1563] But he was really critical of the idea that marijuana was a cure for cancer because he was like, look, I am telling you, I have cancer.

[1564] I smoke pot all day constantly.

[1565] He's like, I am your poster boy.

[1566] Because if it was something that cured cancer, I would not have cancer because you cannot smoke more pot than me. Like McKenna was just high all day.

[1567] Right.

[1568] But there's so many different cancers and so many different types of weed.

[1569] Who knows what's what?

[1570] We've got to research it.

[1571] Well, I think what's really supposed to be the most effective in Gino, you help my friend when his mom had an issue with this.

[1572] And this is something about Gino, who'd never advertise himself.

[1573] But he hooked my friend up.

[1574] with a lot of this cannabis oil.

[1575] It's really expensive stuff, and you did it just to help his mom, or just to help his dad, rather.

[1576] Well, he was a good dude.

[1577] And, you know, we were talking about stage four cancer at that point, so there wasn't much ever hope that it was going to turn around and cure it.

[1578] However, to ease the last few months of life was worth working and happening.

[1579] There was a lot more quality of life, which for the patient, that was great, number one, the absolute utmost importance, but also for our friend that we're talking about, it was great for him because he got the last few months of life together with his loved one in a better way, not in a comatose setting, which he was dealing with for a while before we got uh you know on the uh rick simpson oil regimen well it definitely needs to be investigated because there's so many people that have had beneficial effects from it it just seems insane to not have some large scale scientific research being done right now like just humanity as a whole like we kind of owe it to each other like if you're not thinking about it right now because your loved ones don't have cancer but if this turns out to be really legit this could be another reason why we need to reconsider this whole ban on the legal sale federally of marijuana.

[1580] It's ridiculous.

[1581] If it can do this if you're really taking this oil and you're reducing tumors which has been reported in just a shitload of people, including friends of mine, I know people that have had cancer and had their cancer reduced by taking cannabis oil.

[1582] And I know people whose parents had it and got their tumors reduced because of it.

[1583] And autistic kids, like the seizures and stuff like that.

[1584] Our friend who's kid was going from like I mean he was having seizures all day takes the stuff he hasn't had a seizure in six months sure you look at jaden and and charlotte and all these these kids how can you how can you tell the parents no matter what state you're in how can you tell a parent no and that's i think that's when your politics changes when it affects you personally it definitely happens it definitely happens and i've seen quite a few stories of that of people that have children that you know serious seizure issues and as soon as they got them on the medical marijuana just stopped And we have a lot of really bad prejudices about marijuana, you know, and we need to expose them, like, as a society, because they're holding a lot of people back.

[1585] I know they held me back.

[1586] They made me until I was 30 years old.

[1587] I thought pot was for idiots.

[1588] So they really did.

[1589] A lot of people do.

[1590] And it's important to let them know.

[1591] Not only is it not for idiots, it's a tool.

[1592] You can use it.

[1593] You can, it can benefit you.

[1594] Like, this is not a benign substance.

[1595] It's slippery.

[1596] you know like all other psychoactive substances if you are on the wrong path mentally like you could go off the deep end with it like everything else like alcohol or anything else but you see someone who i respect a lot like graham hancock who you had on the show a lot he was a high heavy user and he got to a point um where he said you know what my relationship is not good with marijuana anymore and he took a long break i think two to three years um he took a a long break and then said you know what things have changed in my life now i think i could go back and have that relationship start again and from what i what i understand mostly from the podcast uh from from him being on the podcast last time um he is now in a better relationship with marijuana yeah he was in an abusive relationship with himself and marijuana was just playing a factor in that sure i'm the one who got him high yeah i got him high on the show when he was he was in a He was like two or three years sober.

[1597] I'm like, dude, you're fine.

[1598] Just come on.

[1599] Yeah, you're the smartest dude ever.

[1600] He loved it.

[1601] And he opened up when I gave it to him.

[1602] Oh, my God, he opened up like a flower.

[1603] He took one hit, and then he relaxed, and he was smiling and laughing, and we were having a good time.

[1604] And he went on this rant.

[1605] Oh, my God.

[1606] It was epic rant.

[1607] Epic rant.

[1608] And I remember thinking, like, wow, that had to be cannabis inspired because it was so like emotionally connected to him.

[1609] Essentially like sort of validating his life work because he was really heavily criticized many, many times where people just completely ignored any of the potentially positive aspects of what he was saying.

[1610] And just was trying to shit on all, they're trying to shit on all these theories.

[1611] But as time has gone on, it's been more and more apparent that he was right the whole time.

[1612] About all different things that he studies.

[1613] Yeah.

[1614] Well, the big one being that civilizations have experienced many different eras and that what we're looking at, when we're looked back thousands and thousands of years, is the most latest of eras.

[1615] But there was potentially very advanced civilizations that had a different kind of advancement, 10 ,000, 15 ,000 years, maybe even as many as 30 ,000 years ago.

[1616] And that there's evidence of this stuff.

[1617] There's evidence in the construction of the old kingdom in Egypt.

[1618] There's evidence when they start looking at certain erosion patterns on the sphinx, and the Sphinx compound, like, they're talking about, like, something that was built 14 ,000 years ago plus.

[1619] So all these different new discoveries that they're having, when they're having these new, they find these new things that are like, they found evidence of North Americans in Native Americans in North America at 14 ,000 years ago, which pushes it way back before they thought it was.

[1620] It found like woolly mammoth bones with cuts on them and shit, super recently.

[1621] So this stuff keeps happening over and over again, and they keep discovering these structures and, you know, they find things underwater.

[1622] They find, like, sunken cities and shit.

[1623] Gobeckley -Tepi in Turkey, yeah, exactly.

[1624] You can't carbon date stone.

[1625] So, you know, that's why Gobeckley -Tepi is so unique, because they know that it was covered up somewhere around 12 ,000 years ago.

[1626] Purposely.

[1627] Yeah, that's someone constructed this thing sometime before that.

[1628] You know, they get a vague idea within a thousand years of when this thing was built, and it was built.

[1629] when they thought people were hunter gatherers so this is all stuff that Hancock had already been saying so to see him get high and just expand upon that and see like this is a guy that like he's been ridiculed he's been dragged through the mud people have taken what he's said out of context and tried to use it against him they've had these really biased opinions about his work and they've made little specials about it just shitting on him and it turns out he was right about a lot of things yeah and he's just gathering evidence and making his thoughts and progress processes on evidence and he's a really good guy like he doesn't deserve any of that he's not a he's not a bad guy like he's a really good guy that's taken a chance that's exploring this really important subject this idea that we've been here many times i could remember reading magicians maybe it was magicians of the gods or fingerprints of his first first one thinking thank you're fingerprints of the gods right was it fingerprints no fingerprints fingerprints fingerprints thinking thank god there's a dude out there i didn't know who he was at the time thank god there's someone doing this work, because I had never heard of any of this before I read that book.

[1630] Well, there's been a bunch of similar, like, theorists in the past, but they always connected it to, like, aliens, like, specifically like...

[1631] The Zachariah Hitchens.

[1632] Sitchin.

[1633] Sitchin stuff.

[1634] Yeah, well, he, he had, I was going to bring up that guy from the Charities of the Gods.

[1635] What the fuck is that guy's name?

[1636] There was a dude von Danikin.

[1637] Yeah, Von Danikin.

[1638] Yeah, Von Danikin, who wrote Charities of the Gods.

[1639] And Charate to the Gods was like a movie.

[1640] They made a documentary movie about it that played in like the movie theaters So I remember when I was a kid it was playing in the movie theaters and I was freaking out like and people would leave there They'd go oh my god There's aliens.

[1641] They visited us like that movie if you watch that movie and you smoke pot and you're young It will have you fucking convinced You'll be fucking convinced 100 % I feel like I was convinced and it's a lot of Graham Hancock who unconvinced me by Because a lot of people think he's part of the ancient aliens theorists, but he's not really he just feels that that we have lost technology well he leaves the door open we've had conversations about it he leaves the door open for visitation he leaves a door open for that being a possibility as do I as I think everybody should a unique moment where an alien spacecraft came down and ran into 14th century Europeans and fucked with them and you know and kidnapped a few and did some scientific experiments on some and erase their memories of course that could happen I mean if we can go to Mars we can send a robot to zoom around on Mars and we watch it on our iPhone we can do that right now we're idiots we're idiot we can't even make pot legal we've got a robot moving around on Mars the idea that there's something out there there's no way no one's smarter than us dude can't happen like of course there could be if we stay alive for a thousand years our technology is going to be unrecognizable it's going to be so beyond anything we could possibly imagine today just look at how far it's constant Since, like, we were kids growing up in the 80s.

[1642] These things that we see, these things that everybody sees, these iconic gray creatures with the big black eyes, those could be drones.

[1643] A hundred percent.

[1644] I mean, those could be artificially intelligent creatures that some super advanced civilization has created to gather up information on people.

[1645] That's totally possible.

[1646] And that would make it so much easier for them to defy the laws of physics, defy the laws of physics, not the laws of physics, but the laws of, of space, travel, like with human beings being unable to withstand the kind of pressure that it would require to go light speed and shit like that.

[1647] If these things are some fucking weird robot creation that doesn't even, you know, lives off of a lithium ion battery it's got in its dick.

[1648] You know, that thing might be able to go forever.

[1649] Like, it might, radiation might not bother it.

[1650] You might be able to shoot it into a fucking black hole and it comes out on the other side.

[1651] I mean, who knows what the fuck they can do a million years from now?

[1652] Right, because an avatar is just a robot.

[1653] We all know robots at this point can be controlled from a remote control.

[1654] It just depends how far away is that remote control?

[1655] You know, where is that remote control?

[1656] So the chariots are the gods guy and even the people, the ancient aliens guys, who the fuck knows?

[1657] There might have been a bunch of visitors.

[1658] It's very possible.

[1659] It's super possible.

[1660] If we can do it, of course, something out there that's smarter than us can do it better than we could.

[1661] For sure.

[1662] Of course.

[1663] But what Graham Hancock is proposing, it's much more likely because it's backed by actual science.

[1664] And now that he's joined efforts with that Randall Carlson guy, and Randall Carson, who's an expert on asteroidal impacts, it's the history of them.

[1665] In North America, in the world, I mean, he's a wizard when it comes to that stuff.

[1666] And he can just quote it off the top of his head, all these different impact sites that they found.

[1667] And you realize, like, oh, Jesus, we get hit all the time.

[1668] And not only do we get hit all the time, this evidence of a massive meteor shower.

[1669] impacting Asia and Europe somewhere around 10 ,000 plus years ago.

[1670] Which coincides with the civilization that they, that they're talking about.

[1671] Yeah.

[1672] So somewhere around that era, the human race got fucking basically half wiped out.

[1673] Yeah.

[1674] And we had a rebuild.

[1675] And we don't remember.

[1676] We didn't have, there's no electronics back then.

[1677] So there's no, like, computers that we could look at.

[1678] There's no photos.

[1679] They didn't have photographs.

[1680] So they were just basing on people's memories and things that they could draw.

[1681] I mean, as far as we know, they didn't have any cameras.

[1682] I mean, who knows?

[1683] I mean, all that stuff, if you had a camera and you left it on the ground for a thousand years, there'd be nothing left in a hundred.

[1684] Right.

[1685] They would all go away.

[1686] They had batteries back then.

[1687] They had something like a battery.

[1688] They did.

[1689] Yeah.

[1690] And they found that in one of the Egyptian tombs.

[1691] And they found it in Iraq, too.

[1692] Yep, the little copper in the clay.

[1693] They probably had some kind of computer or electronics that just doesn't exist anymore.

[1694] Well, not only that, the people who made that battery, they're pretty sure that was 2 ,500 BC.

[1695] So that was way later than this impact they're talking about, this 11 ,000, whatever it was year impact.

[1696] They think that there's been a series of these all throughout history.

[1697] And this is something that's supported by even mainstream science when they're talking about super volcanoes.

[1698] There's this one super volcano.

[1699] We've looked this up three fucking times, and I can never remember this goddamn Gino, L .A. Speedweed, bullshit.

[1700] But there's a super volcano that erupted 70 ,000 years ago and killed almost 80 ,000.

[1701] everyone on the planet, except for a couple thousand people, and we all descend from those few thousand people that survived some massive super volcano impact.

[1702] This is a really openly accepted theory in mainstream archaeology and anthropology.

[1703] They really believe that this is one of the possibly one of the big disaster extinction events that happened to human beings.

[1704] There's been several of them.

[1705] Right.

[1706] I know what you're talking about.

[1707] That's something that cause like three or four years of an equivalent of a nuclear winter.

[1708] Yeah.

[1709] Well, here, look at it this way.

[1710] You remember Mount St. Helens when we were kids?

[1711] Remember that?

[1712] Nobody talks about that.

[1713] Nobody even thinks about that anymore.

[1714] When we were kids, a fucking volcano in Washington State erupted and people died.

[1715] They got lavaed.

[1716] Right?

[1717] They got smoked by a volcano.

[1718] Ash for months in the atmosphere.

[1719] Oh, ash for months.

[1720] And it just conveniently goes away.

[1721] That was a little baby volcano.

[1722] I mean, obviously, no disrespect to anybody who died.

[1723] Right.

[1724] But in comparison to what Yellowstone has, Yellowstone has a super volcano that's 600 miles wide, something fucking crazy like that.

[1725] That's still, you know, they don't call it active that volcano, but it's still bubbling.

[1726] Well, they have thousands of earthquakes every year, thousands.

[1727] So, you know, shit's going on down there, like geysers are shooting out boiling water and the sulfur content and the water's crazy.

[1728] Yeah.

[1729] Maybe it's 600 kilometers.

[1730] 600 kilometers, like 300 miles.

[1731] Whatever it is.

[1732] It's so big that it's a continent killer.

[1733] Right.

[1734] They're like, when that thing blows, everything near it is dead as fuck.

[1735] What it is is what they call a caldera, which means that it's a volcano that was so big, the top blew off of it.

[1736] And then you're left with this big crater.

[1737] And they didn't realize that until they started using satellite images.

[1738] Once they started using, because we've known about old faithful, you know, it's a cool place to visit.

[1739] You go check out the geysers and stuff.

[1740] the ground is boiling like 100 feet below you this hot lava and every 6 to 800 ,000 years that shit blows sky high and when it blows sky high everyone's dead we're all dead we're all dead and California's dead Montana's dead as fuck everything around it's just dead That's depressing because it really is just a matter of time before there's some some impact or earthquake or a volcano it is just a matter of time and what's it going to be Well, what Graham Hancock is exposing is that when you're talking about enormous periods of time, like 10 ,000 years, 12 ,000 years, 30 ,000 years, people cannot recall those natural disasters.

[1741] They lose the ability to communicate.

[1742] Sometimes they're not even using the same languages anymore.

[1743] You're dealing with thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

[1744] I mean, just think about just a few thousand years ago, Latin was like a real language.

[1745] You know, go try finding someone that was going to talk Latin to you.

[1746] Right.

[1747] You know, that shit doesn't exist.

[1748] It's a dead language.

[1749] it's you know that's only a couple thousand years when you're talking about 30 ,000 years and the possibility of all these different impacts and different things happening within those 30 ,000 years like who knows so what he's showing is or what he was showing back then was that this alternative theory is not preposterous at all like there's there's real good evidence that this is not going to stay like this right like it's not just not preposterous it's it's probable and likely that it's just what's next well old faithful was called old faithful because it used to be faithful and blow at the exact time it doesn't do that anymore it's no longer on the old faithful type of uh schedule that it that it used to be so things are changing i don't like that under there i don't like it makes me nervous i don't like that you know and that's just in our life when did that stop i only recently heard heard that uh you know that that that's new story that old faithful is not as faithful as people think.

[1750] Yeah, it's weird.

[1751] The geysers are hot water.

[1752] The water's boiling.

[1753] It shoots up into the sky.

[1754] And we're like, ooh, ah, well, let's get out of here before a giant furry monster eats us.

[1755] Yellowstone's crazy.

[1756] That's a crazy goddamn place, man. Those people have grizzly bears.

[1757] Grizzly bears are there all the time.

[1758] There's a place up in, I believe it's Ohio, California, where they have these big mud pits that people, you know, go in that are real hot and you know yeah yeah but what do you think's heating those under there i i mean that could also just quickly explode i don't know i mean those those hot pits are totally natural in oh hi is that what it is uh they as far as i know they are hmm i i haven't been in them i have a healthy fear of them i guess for the for that reason of just just you know things like that in um you know in nature that could Mother Nature just wants to kill us in so many ways Sort of Right now we're fine I mean no need to totally freak out about it But just the awareness that this whole thing It's probably pretty fucking temporary Yeah and we're in the worst state to live in That's so crazy to say I don't know why you say that Earthquake volcano We're definitely better off If we were in like Toronto or something probably You freeze to death in winter You get hit by a semi that hits black ice I think this is a really good state.

[1759] A lot of nice people.

[1760] More people dying of weather and natural things in every other state besides California.

[1761] Yeah, I mean, if there's an earthquake, there's going to be a few issues, for sure.

[1762] Yeah.

[1763] Earthquakes fuck a lot of things up.

[1764] But overall, man, like, you deal with an earthquake once every couple of decades.

[1765] You deal with winter every fucking year if you go back to Ohio.

[1766] I'm trying to keep them here.

[1767] I think the biggest...

[1768] Isn't the biggest fault line, like Missouri or?

[1769] That shit doesn't work, though.

[1770] That's broken.

[1771] It's like an old train station.

[1772] That shit is broken?

[1773] I don't know, man. I mean, look, we're worried about stuff that we know about, like, these spots where the earth could explode.

[1774] But we're now, there's fucking rocks in the sky that could kill everybody.

[1775] They hit all the time.

[1776] They hit every few thousand years.

[1777] So these spaces of civilization, like 10 ,000, 12 ,000 years, where they find these.

[1778] structures like Gobeckley Tepe and they're like, who the fuck?

[1779] Where did this?

[1780] Where's this coming?

[1781] It's so likely that that's just a series of events.

[1782] It's like people build up, they figure out society, get things going really well, they start improving upon things and boom.

[1783] Everybody's dead, rotting bodies in the street, diseases, flee, head to the mountains, rebuild civilization, first fucking tribes don't make it, down to a few people.

[1784] They slowly bond together.

[1785] They rebuild.

[1786] I bet that shit happens every 20 ,000 years or so.

[1787] One of the theories I heard on Gobeckley -Tempe is that since that's what happened that there was some devastation at that point, that a theory is that they blamed it on whatever gods, and that's why Go -Bekly -Tempe was just covered at that point.

[1788] Huh.

[1789] Just hide that shit away?

[1790] Yeah, well, that makes sense.

[1791] If you were like a politician, you were trying to take over after the disaster, you'd be like, these motherfuckers and their statues ruined.

[1792] everything and we're gonna fill it in with dirt yeah and that would be like symbolic because you can't like run a dope -ass city with some statues that the dude before you made nope nope we gotta knock those bitches over we still do the same thing today well ISIS is doing it right now all throughout Asia they keep blowing shit up yeah you know we yank down Saddam didn't we yeah tore that shit right down head fell off yeah yeah that was that's right that statue forgot about that so we all do it we all want to like hide what was before us because what we are is good what we do is right right especially when it comes to someone like Saddam Hussein Gaddafi yeah like we like celebrated it when that statue went down yeah see the statue go down fuck that guy we did meanwhile that statue is kind of history like we really shouldn't have been fucking with it because like if you could see what Julius Caesar did like if you could go back and see what Nero did like all the atrocities that he did you wouldn't want to see a statue of him but imagine if someone came along and smashed a statue of him you wouldn't be able to look at it today like there's something about when you go to a museum and you look at something from ancient rome and you go wow that crazy fucker what was caligula's life like yeah what was this guy's life like you know these people were nuts they were out of their fucking minds they were living at a crazy crazy time of taking over the world with swords and bows and arrows and shit but is saddam hussein worse than them no no no not really No, they should have taken that shit and put it in a museum somewhere.

[1793] My college had Christopher Columbus pointing at the cafeteria.

[1794] Right.

[1795] Yeah, when we were kids, he was a cool guy.

[1796] It just became something over the last decade or so, right?

[1797] That Christopher Columbus was a piece of shit.

[1798] You know, another thing, I believe it's from Graham Hancock, but the Iraqi Museum had a lot of material that just got wiped out during these wars that will never be able to get back.

[1799] that had to do with ancient societies and Egypt and things like that.

[1800] So during these wars, you know, the whole place was looted.

[1801] You know, the museum was looted.

[1802] So they lost all of those, you know, ancient tragedy.

[1803] That's like the birth of modern civilization is like the Tigris and the Euphrates, that little valley there.

[1804] You got to keep that, you know, I understand the politics, but you got to keep the history, leave it alone.

[1805] There's rules of war that says you can bomb anything you want.

[1806] want but the Coliseum in Rome that's not cool you do that you were going to talk to you in the haggling a few years you know the Great Wall of China you guys leave that alone bomb each other but there are protected sites in the world that need to stay protected isn't that weird like we we decide like okay look we don't like you but this building is pretty dope yeah we're not going to fuck up that building and then I go all right you got it like all right no punching in the face okay cool yeah because did they ever bomb Paris to like the Ithel Tower get bombed or anywhere around Paris get bombed.

[1807] Not really.

[1808] Yeah, they just kind of stormed through there.

[1809] Because they did, there was like, there's still like a lot of munition.

[1810] There's like this area outside of Paris and France.

[1811] It's like the size of Paris that you can't even go into today.

[1812] Oh, because there's still like ordinance area under the ground.

[1813] They keep finding stuff there.

[1814] They stack it up in these warehouses and shit.

[1815] It's just like a depository for bombs and bomb chemicals.

[1816] They all fucking either launched them out of there or they landed.

[1817] there they didn't go off or they left behind mines and bombs it's like this huge area that you can't even go in it's all toxic and it's the size of Paris apparently wow yeah so I was wondering like wonder was there a conscious decision to not bomb like maybe maybe they did and I don't I don't know it I don't think they did I think they just kind of rolled through there because I mean you figure London got the shit kicked out of it see if you find that picture just there's photos of the munitions where they stack them up it's crazy picture of Paris being bombed from the area.

[1818] Oh, well, there you go.

[1819] Did they leave the Eiffel Tower alone?

[1820] Oh, my God, look at that.

[1821] Boom.

[1822] Holy shit.

[1823] Wow.

[1824] There goes our history.

[1825] Like the Library of Alexandria got destroyed.

[1826] That was in Egypt, though.

[1827] I know, but I'm just saying...

[1828] But that was there in the Muslim...

[1829] Yeah, yeah, I know it was a different time period, but I was just...

[1830] I was going to ask like that, is there something today that contains a bunch of, I don't know, history that could be destroyed and ruined.

[1831] It's sitting in...

[1832] Yeah, like...

[1833] Computers, bro.

[1834] The problem would be if the power went out for more than a couple of years.

[1835] It's never coming back.

[1836] If the grid got destroyed, if something happened that was so big that it destroyed the power grid and we needed to reestablish a grid, good luck.

[1837] And then we lose 50 % of the population in the impact.

[1838] And then, you know, what we were left with chaos and lawlessness and fucking people starving in death and no one knows what to do.

[1839] Yeah, good luck getting the power back on.

[1840] And all would take is one of those things.

[1841] It might take a hundred years for the power to come back on and that might not even be negative intent of humans that can happen just from the sun sure in the mp we don't know right we haven't had electric long enough we might have had an EMP you know what's an EMP explaining to people um uh electro magnetic pulse which would take out all of the electric like how you just say EMP like yeah yeah yeah EMP we sit around talk about those all time no there's dog we throw up a grow this is a motherfucker but they they you know there's um They've tried to make EMP weapons that'll take out a full grid.

[1842] But the sun could produce that.

[1843] So if the sun did that, it could have been done in history.

[1844] We just didn't have electric.

[1845] There's evidence of an EMP or a solar flare that hit sometime in the 19th century.

[1846] We only know about it because a telegraph went down.

[1847] All the telegraphs in America went down for like two days.

[1848] And everyone was like, what happened?

[1849] And then a couple days later, everything worked again.

[1850] And scientists think that it was a solar.

[1851] flare or an ejection that caused an EMP and just shut down all the power for a few days here.

[1852] It would be walking dead if it happened now.

[1853] It's so crazy that we rely on that thing to stay stable.

[1854] This giant ball of nuclear power that's floating in the sky.

[1855] It's a million times bigger than the Earth, and we count on it to stay stable.

[1856] We do.

[1857] What the fuck.

[1858] Solar flare still happened a lot, though.

[1859] They do.

[1860] Recently, there was something that it knocked something out from a solar flare.

[1861] Yeah, but the sun has been weird lately.

[1862] It's been really, really dark and strange with not a lot of activities.

[1863] Someone smokes too much, but...

[1864] The sun's been dark and strange with not a lot of activity.

[1865] Yeah, I'm...

[1866] What are you talking about?

[1867] Are you being serious?

[1868] Yeah, I'm being serious.

[1869] Oh, what's going on with the sun?

[1870] Like, the sun normally has a lot of solar activity, storms, ejections, all that kind of stuff.

[1871] The last 12, 15 years, it's been really quiet.

[1872] Oh, shit.

[1873] It's dying.

[1874] No, it's a cycle.

[1875] But, you know, everybody freaks out.

[1876] It's global warming.

[1877] it's global cooling, it's climate this, it's, it's just a solar cycle, and it's just, the sun is just chilled right now and taking a breather in 10 years.

[1878] And even when they say solar cycle, they're measuring what they've been measuring over the period of, you know, whatever amount of decades they've been able to measure solar cycles.

[1879] But just think about when the fucking sun's been around.

[1880] The sun laughs at that measurement.

[1881] Yeah, the sun's like, oh, you expect me to behave like I've been behaving for the last 50 years?

[1882] Yeah, good luck with that, dude.

[1883] Because I've got a fucking temper.

[1884] Sometimes I like to blow up a whole solar system, turn into a crisp.

[1885] I watched this crazy documentary on hypernovas and that they initially thought that they were witnessing when they saw these gamma bursts in the sky, they thought they were witnessing war between alien races.

[1886] That was the initial reaction to measuring these gamma bursts in the sky.

[1887] And then they realized somewhere along the line that you're looking at like a hypernova, like an enormous burst, an explosion that's so great that if it was in a nearby cluster, it would kill us.

[1888] Yeah.

[1889] Yeah.

[1890] That gamma radiation, I think that is the highest that we can even measure.

[1891] Yeah, and well, the thing was that it was happening all day, all throughout the sky.

[1892] Like they would be, like, measuring this for the first time, and they were seeing, like, all these different spots in the universe were experiencing these gamma bursts.

[1893] How would you not think it's Star Wars?

[1894] Yeah, exactly.

[1895] I would totally think that.

[1896] That's exactly what they thought.

[1897] They're like, oh my God, what if they come?

[1898] What if they come?

[1899] And they have this kind of power.

[1900] They have gamma power.

[1901] Right.

[1902] So we have to ban weed.

[1903] We have to, you know, get society on the right track.

[1904] But it seems like at least we could like give them our gold and our women and they might leave us be.

[1905] It might be possible to negotiate.

[1906] But you can't negotiate.

[1907] I'm just kidding about that, obviously.

[1908] But you can't negotiate with a supernova.

[1909] You know, when a sun explodes and takes out the entire surrounding area for billion.

[1910] billions and billions of miles, that's it.

[1911] It's like it's less feared, but way scarier.

[1912] Right, you can't build an arc to escape a nova, you know?

[1913] Like, it's just not, that's just a little water.

[1914] But it's just, apparently it happens all the time.

[1915] You know, and you can't happen right now somewhere.

[1916] And you can never convince society of it that, hey, we got bigger problems to worry about than between me and you here.

[1917] Then pot delivery services, you fuck.

[1918] Absolutely.

[1919] Speedweed .com.

[1920] Speedweed.

[1921] dot com delivers outside of los angeles so uh you'll get a little package like this just like amazon prime although it'll be in a box that you don't you know looks like just a regular delivery this is your q you're getting them you're sending them through the mail it's not through the mail uh it's through people through a medical courier yeah oh courier medical courier how high is your medical courier well he's in the middle of driving going what am i doing with my feet They actually don't know what medicine they have because they do all sorts of medication.

[1922] They don't just do that.

[1923] Oh, okay.

[1924] So they don't just do pot?

[1925] Don't.

[1926] Meanwhile, I bet they're still high as fuck.

[1927] So, you know, there are regulations that are coming down for transport as well.

[1928] The teamsters want to get their hands in transport, which they are one of the people who are rallying against legalization of marijuana.

[1929] they're with the unions for prisons.

[1930] So they're kind of fighting on both sides.

[1931] They want to be involved in transportation to marijuana.

[1932] However, they're lobbying for, to keep it illegal.

[1933] They're the teamsters.

[1934] They're going to be on whatever side wins.

[1935] Of course.

[1936] We're over here now.

[1937] Okay.

[1938] You're over here now.

[1939] Yeah.

[1940] So again, you know, what we were considered was similar to the dominoes of marijuana here in LA.

[1941] We are evolving.

[1942] That's what we were doing before this lawsuit happened.

[1943] We really want to be considered more like Amazon Prime.

[1944] So where you're...

[1945] Of course you do.

[1946] They make a lot of money.

[1947] Of course.

[1948] And...

[1949] We think we're dumb.

[1950] Well, now that...

[1951] It kind of would be like Circuit City.

[1952] Well, Governor Brown's new laws have changed so that marijuana companies can be for -profit now.

[1953] They don't have to be not -for -profit, which is how it's been for the last 20 years here.

[1954] So, and so that has to go into effect by 2018.

[1955] So, so that's something to consider also.

[1956] Once that happens, that changes things for a lot of cannabis businesses.

[1957] But that all said, every cannabis business that's in LA, that's not a dispensary in that, whether they're making edibles or they're making vaporizers or anything.

[1958] And it's a thriving industry.

[1959] They're all illegal, every bit of it.

[1960] So regulation does need that.

[1961] that happen, you know, here in L .A. And what we're asking for isn't, he just overturned this.

[1962] We're not saying that.

[1963] We're saying we know the city attorney does believe that safe access is important, but he feels he has to uphold this law that was put into effect before he was the city attorney.

[1964] So since he knows this is a bad law that he has to enforce, he could also affect change by helping go down the path of legalization for good businesses.

[1965] He's not an idiot.

[1966] He realizes what a bad law is.

[1967] He just knows his job is to enforce it.

[1968] Got it.

[1969] So hopefully he'll join the fight to find a path towards legalization.

[1970] Okay.

[1971] What can people do, the people that are listening to wrap this all up?

[1972] The people that are listening, what's a good way to follow this or a good way to help?

[1973] Good way to help.

[1974] If you're in California, a good way to help is to join our collective even if you don't buy anything and we'll keep you in touch with the politicians and we'll put pressure in them.

[1975] if you're outside of California.

[1976] What does that mean?

[1977] Politicians, you put pressure on them, joining, what would that entail?

[1978] Joining our collective, like if you're a medical marijuana patient, join speedweed .com, and we are working actively with the city to try to solve this.

[1979] It's not much, so we're fighting in court, yes, on one hand, but on the other hand, we are conversing with the city.

[1980] Like, the city knows this is broken.

[1981] Okay, but what do you mean by joining your collective?

[1982] Like, what does that entail?

[1983] Go to speedweed .com, click join, and you put your name, email address.

[1984] That's all they have to do?

[1985] That's pretty much it.

[1986] Do they have to show you proof of medical marijuana license?

[1987] They do if they want to order.

[1988] Prescription.

[1989] But they could join your collective without doing that?

[1990] They need to show proof that they're a patient to join our collective.

[1991] Oh, okay.

[1992] All right.

[1993] That's what I was asking.

[1994] Yeah.

[1995] But we also have...

[1996] You guys are so lack of days ago with this.

[1997] It's so normal.

[1998] It's like, yeah, just join our collective.

[1999] Like, what are?

[2000] It's hard to be...

[2001] Most people don't know what we're even talking about.

[2002] They don't try and make the easy as possible.

[2003] If you don't have your card, your doctor recommendation, you could get it right on our website by doing a Skype session with your doctor.

[2004] And, you know, we told the story about how we got our cards in the beginning.

[2005] It's changed so much.

[2006] Wait a minute.

[2007] A doctor or I have to get my doctor to do a Skype session.

[2008] You have your own doctor.

[2009] Right.

[2010] Yeah.

[2011] So not your doctor.

[2012] You're saying...

[2013] Not your doctor.

[2014] Your doctor.

[2015] We have a group of doctors.

[2016] Right.

[2017] That's what I'm saying.

[2018] that are professional doctors, that you'll do a real Skype session, and they'll talk to you about what your ailman is, and you could get your card instead of going somewhere, you could just do it right in your living room.

[2019] That's an important point.

[2020] See, you were making it seem like the guy had to get like, oh, man, I've got to get my doctor to Skype.

[2021] No, no, no, no. Hey, Doc, can you Skype in it at 1 o 'clock?

[2022] Jesus Christ.

[2023] How many tokens?

[2024] It takes 10 minutes to do.

[2025] Right on our website, we have interactive people waiting that will...

[2026] That's a selling point.

[2027] will take you right through the whole process.

[2028] This is what we need to do.

[2029] We need to buy a warehouse in California and a bunch of people use it as their mailing address and then get people from other states to become a part of your collective and they have like a fake mailing address.

[2030] Then we hook them up.

[2031] Are we going to talk more about that idea?

[2032] After this goes dark because city attorney is watching and I know he is.

[2033] It's illegal to do it that way.

[2034] But I think it's just funny that you have to be in this patch of dirt in order to follow those rules.

[2035] You couldn't join the collective.

[2036] You couldn't be like from what?

[2037] And decided I want to join one of those California pot collectives.

[2038] I'll Skype in with the doctor and no, you have to actually like have like your mail delivered here.

[2039] It's so stupid.

[2040] It's weird like an arbitrary line in the sand politically across this line go to jail.

[2041] Yeah.

[2042] Come back here.

[2043] Get baked and have a good time.

[2044] Well, that's what happens with people that go into Texas.

[2045] You fuck up and you're in a tour bus and you're whee -ha, this way's the best.

[2046] And you hear, whoop, weep, oh no. That's a son of the police.

[2047] You get pulled over and you're like, oh no, we got pulled over for weed in Texas.

[2048] This is not like getting pulled over for weed in California.

[2049] And next thing you know, Willie Nelson's in jail.

[2050] Yeah, that's how Willie Nelson got arrested, right?

[2051] Yeah.

[2052] That's hilarious that someone is such a piece of shit.

[2053] They arrested Willie Nelson.

[2054] I'd quit my job.

[2055] So my kids are going hungry.

[2056] Fuck this.

[2057] I agree.

[2058] It's actually pretty scary getting pulled over with weed in California nowadays because the DUI rate has gone crazy.

[2059] My friend's a lawyer, DUI lawyer, and half of his cases now are just from marijuana.

[2060] And they have a new test where they do the same kind of thing with your eye, but it like goes left and right real fast if you're high or something like that and if they feel like they can smell weed and if you fail this test you're getting a DUI just like an alcohol DUI When you say it was left or right real quick So you know when when you get pulled over they do the test with your eye like follow my hand I think with alcohol I think it shoots over like your eye shoots over to the left or the right really fast or it's jerky when you're high your eye reacts different it's kind of like a jiggly left and right effect when it can't be any science of that is there well that's that's it right now and find that out right now in court they are fighting just that if it's if it's like legit test and and they don't have a like a 0 .08 for weed yet so they don't really have any laws here's the main problem i think you'll agree with me there's never been a study that shows there's any loss of motor skills no none right there was one study about driving uh while smoking weed and that they found that people actually performed it better yeah well that's the problem it's not a motor skill thing it's not like alcohol everybody knows that if you drink too much you don't drive good everybody knows that it's bad for your motor skills pot's not it's simple so what are they pulling you over for exactly state of mind so because if it doesn't affect your motor skills like is it affecting your judgment can you prove that people were intoxicated on marijuana perform less intelligently than people that are intoxicated on caffeine or cigarettes because you know they're doing that a cop could pull a guy over he could have a cigarette in the corner of his mouth drinking a cup of coffee and no one says a word those are two drugs interact with each other no one has a problem so it's a state of mind issue so and he could have those drugs and still have a couple of pops at the bar right to really amp up all that aggression and still legally drive behind what is um what is intoxication i mean isn't intoxication supposed to be a loss of motor skills well right but it's it's sort of arbitrary because what what is intoxic i mean the swab test just did not pass in california where they were trying to to swab for H .C molecules, and it's like, no, that's totally not going to work.

[2061] You can't do that.

[2062] You can't do that.

[2063] Someone can just walk through a party, and then they get swabbed, and they're in trouble.

[2064] They don't even have any of it in their system.

[2065] You can't, you can't do that.

[2066] Like, Gino, with what he smokes, I don't know, I don't know, I don't even know when he's high.

[2067] I don't know when he's stoned.

[2068] Trust me, he's high right now.

[2069] I know he is.

[2070] Trust me. But you wouldn't know, like, so many people are high right now, and you wouldn't know.

[2071] Right.

[2072] Of course.

[2073] So how can you test for it?

[2074] Well, the real problem is, what can you show?

[2075] is bad about being high.

[2076] I need to see something on your tests where you show me why you should be able to pull people over while you're wearing a gun and shine a light in their face and get them out of their vehicle and make them do things.

[2077] Like what is the worst case?

[2078] You're looking for marijuana.

[2079] Okay.

[2080] What's the worst case scenario that's going on with this person that's on the marijuana?

[2081] Are they performing in any way, shape, or form where they're endangered the people around them?

[2082] So if that is true, I think you have to prove that before you put people in a fucking cage.

[2083] Yep.

[2084] It also varies from person to person, I believe.

[2085] I know a girl that smokes a joint, she can't drive.

[2086] She can barely function as a human.

[2087] But, you know, like, J .N .O. could do a whole ounce, and he'll be fine to drive as exact same driver as before, if not better.

[2088] But this girl, no way.

[2089] I wouldn't even let her in the car if she smoked a drink.

[2090] I bet she probably shouldn't be able to drive anyway.

[2091] How about that?

[2092] You should...

[2093] Can't nerf the world, dude.

[2094] Right.

[2095] But there should be, like, a test.

[2096] We've talked about this before, like a marijuana test.

[2097] Like, you are a 10, meaning you could do marijuana in any thing and you're fine but this person's like rated as six it's just but it's a mind issue it's not it's not a motor skill issue this is where the problem lies it's like yeah I guess some people would freak out when they're on pot and they would do lose their mind and maybe they shouldn't be intoxicated but those people probably lose their mind if someone yelled at them right now like some people are just weak they just whatever the glue that keeps their reality together is just really fragile and then throw some pot in there or a drink I mean how many people do we know that have one drink and And they get fucking crazy.

[2098] That's a person whose reality is really shaky.

[2099] Right.

[2100] But that doesn't have anything to do with me. No. And the idea that cops look towards that as being the standard is ridiculous.

[2101] Right.

[2102] Because if you, like, I was going to say, if you have like a festival, like a cops test potheads festival, we would do it.

[2103] We would fucking do it.

[2104] Look, for sure, you could have go cards, set it up.

[2105] What do you want to do?

[2106] You want to have fucking one of those mud bogger races.

[2107] We'll do this, let us smoke pot.

[2108] We'll do all that.

[2109] We'll have jujitsu tournaments where people smoke pot before they do jiu -jitsu.

[2110] Get orange cones and clipboards and some weed and people will join.

[2111] Fuck yeah.

[2112] And we'll learn.

[2113] We'll know.

[2114] Yeah.

[2115] You need to show some sort of significant issue because there's a significant issue with some people.

[2116] But you're not even stopping those people from taking who knows what the fuck they're taking as far as antidepressants or psychoactive substances prescribed by their.

[2117] doctors and how many people are on fucking adderall man that's meth they're taking meth they're driving around you know i know a bunch of adults that take that shit on a daily basis yep so what you're dealing with is a lot of different chemicals that could potentially fuck with the mind like why are you concentrated on pot like you haven't shown any reason to concentrate on pot you know the chief of police uh in new york city recently said that every crime could be tied back to marijuana That's hilarious.

[2118] Including him.

[2119] You know, which is outrageous because it's just trying to give more reach for police officers to pull you over.

[2120] That is such a crazy irresponsible thing to say.

[2121] That's like saying every crime can be tied back to water.

[2122] Our parents.

[2123] Yeah, we all have 96 % water.

[2124] It's all the crime.

[2125] Yeah, it's all stupid, man. It really is.

[2126] It's just something that should be a joke that we look back on from the 1930s.

[2127] We look back on the, wow, look at the craziness that these people had to deal with back then.

[2128] But instead, we have to deal with it today.

[2129] In the age of Google and information, scientific studies ad nauseum that all show the same thing.

[2130] And none of them show any negative effects.

[2131] None of them.

[2132] There's like some questions about memory.

[2133] That's it.

[2134] But it seems to only affect you while you're on it.

[2135] When you get off of it, it doesn't seem to have any effect on your memory at all.

[2136] I mean, the head of the DEA currently said medical marijuana.

[2137] That's just a joke.

[2138] Let's get past that.

[2139] the head of the D .A. before that, when asked by Congress, is marijuana more detrimental than meth?

[2140] She said she can't answer.

[2141] We played that many times on the show because it's so ridiculous.

[2142] Oh, that was Lay in Hart, right?

[2143] Yeah.

[2144] And this was a senator or something, kept grilling her?

[2145] If you haven't seen it, it's fucking infuriating.

[2146] It is.

[2147] What's so infuriating also is that we all know.

[2148] So how come these people who are in power?

[2149] aren't in the no. Because it's not that they're not in the no. It's that they are the official response, right?

[2150] So they, like, that lady's just doing her job.

[2151] She couldn't just speak out of turn.

[2152] She couldn't.

[2153] She would get fired.

[2154] She couldn't just say whatever she wants.

[2155] Even if she doesn't, even if she doesn't believe that it should be illegal.

[2156] She's not going to say that.

[2157] Because that's not her job.

[2158] Her job is to do whatever the fuck her superiors tell her to do.

[2159] And to stay employed and to make sure her budget doesn't get caught.

[2160] Exactly.

[2161] Exactly.

[2162] That's her job.

[2163] So it's not even her fault.

[2164] It's the fault of the system that they accept that.

[2165] The whole thing is preposterous.

[2166] It doesn't hold up anymore.

[2167] Well, this is why we have to play this game of politics.

[2168] You know, we just want to run a business and a good business.

[2169] But we have to play this game of politics because if we don't, from the bottom, affects change to those people who are at the top, then we then and let them continue to create these laws.

[2170] We could just go another 20 years with these bad laws when there's no reason for it.

[2171] Yeah, yeah.

[2172] I think you're right.

[2173] I'm just hoping that what's going to go on is that as, you know, from the time that I first got my license until today, how much more open it's been, much more relaxed people are, much more accepting people are of it, and much more accepting amongst grown adults.

[2174] You just see the attitudes of people they're changing and people understanding how beneficial it is, how beneficial it is, especially for people who need it medically.

[2175] Cancer patients, things on those lines, kids with epilepsy, ADD, things along those lines.

[2176] there's just so many people that benefit from it it's it's hopefully it's on its way out all the the laws are on their way out yeah and and you can't just disregard the experience of of the masses yeah you know exactly it's not fair that's because we're lucky to be in sort of the social media age which can be annoying at times but it also allows information that move very quickly so it's so if your kid is helped by having fewer seizures everybody's going to know about that in 24 hours so so you can't really suppress the truth any longer and even texas is polling positively yeah florida's going to pass it you know pennsylvania just passed it it's the dominoes are falling the dominoes are falling and people like christ christie are going to be as amber lion likes to say on the wrong side of history and that's just there's no other way around it it's just this guy's a fool he's a fool and he needs to get off the sugar contact marxist and bitch he'll straighten you out Primal Blueprint .com.

[2177] All right, that's it.

[2178] Good night, everybody.

[2179] Thank you, Gino.

[2180] Thank you, AJ.

[2181] Thank you, Red Band.

[2182] Oh, Red Band.

[2183] You've got a show this Thursday.

[2184] Denver Comedy Works.

[2185] And then we're right there with George Perez and Ryan Dewan.

[2186] The following week, we're in New York with Legion of Skanks people.

[2187] The Skank Fest.

[2188] Powerful Skank Fest.

[2189] So Denver Comedy Works Thursday, awesome spot.

[2190] Tomorrow night, I'm at the Ice House with Ian Edwards.

[2191] Ian's doing both shows.

[2192] And I think Joey's doing the second show, too.

[2193] So this will be the last shows that I do before I do my comedy special.

[2194] So, all right, you fucks.

[2195] AJ, thank you.

[2196] Thank you, Gino.

[2197] Always appreciate you guys.

[2198] L .A. speedweed .com?

[2199] Just speedweed .com.

[2200] Speedweed .com.

[2201] Speedweed .com.

[2202] Speedweed .com, you fucking monsters.

[2203] Thanks, sir.

[2204] Thanks, buddy.