#243 - Honey Honey

[0] The Joe Rogan experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night All day My friends My friends So good to see you guys Fucking super psyched for this I was Very much looking forward to it I really enjoyed seeing you guys on stage In Coachella from I watched it online You did?

[1] Oh my God, that's awesome Yeah, it was awesome Yeah, you could watch it online It was fucking cool First of all that's a really cool feature they had all the different stages like everything you could watch it all go down online i was like wow that's uh that's amazing i think it's the first year they did that too they're they're changing their shit up like crazy it's amazing but when you said that you used to work there selling hot what were you selling i was working there um selling barbecue for baby blues barbecue yeah it was crazy i went just to go to the festival um but i got a hundred bucks for the weekend to work and then And, you know, I stopped by Moranga on the way to double it, triple it, and then I hung out at the festival and sold, you know, beef brisket.

[2] Wow.

[3] That's hilarious.

[4] It was cool.

[5] And then there you were on stage.

[6] That was like a scene in a movie.

[7] That's like, that's like a cool scene in a movie.

[8] Like when things start to really boom for your career, you get to say something like that on stage.

[9] You know, it was intense.

[10] It was definitely, like, incredibly overwhelming in a podcast.

[11] positive and exciting way because you get there and it's just fucking huge like like the and one of the coolest parts I think about Coachella was that the backstage area where all the artists hang out like the artist camp was open to everybody it wasn't you know it's like the sort of like newer bands such as ourselves over here it's like everybody was walking around like holy shit there's radio head and there's there's Dr. Dre and a shit load of weed and like everybody everybody it was so that was really cool to just be like amongst these people and feel like you belong there.

[12] You know, it was rad.

[13] It was cool.

[14] I met Ice Cube once and he knew my name.

[15] Did you?

[16] Of course he did.

[17] I was like he knows my name.

[18] Get the fuck out of here.

[19] He's like, what up, Joe?

[20] Today was a very good day.

[21] Every time I think of Ice Cube and Ice Tea, I think about that YouTube or that photograph, you know, of like the pot machine or soda machine, if you will, that has like Coca -Cola.

[22] And there's a picture of Ice -T's face over the iced tea and then Ice Cube over the it's so great sorry so literal do you how much do you still trip out like running into like really famous people like that and you're like you're like working with them what is it is it is it a mind fuck like what's what's because it's just starting to happen for you guys you guys are on tour with Cheryl crow right it's been crazy like the fact that she knows our band's name like you just said that's the line blowing part and then she uses her time on stage she's been talking about us for like she'll give like these honey honey speeches it was amazing I teared up, I swear to God.

[23] Holy shit.

[24] She's a, you know, she's one of the first people we've toured with that, like, I mean, I used to listen to her when I was a kid, and I kind of worship her a little bit.

[25] I mean, she's a badass, and she's, first of all, she plays for like two hours, and every song is a hit, like every song.

[26] Jesus Christ.

[27] And to be, you know, so amazingly generous to us is really humbling and just, like, it's pretty crazy.

[28] I had a friend of mine's girlfriend question whether or not I was joking that I was really like that it was a CD in my car and I was offended I was like how could you not like Cheryl Crow?

[29] She's fucking awesome She's fucking incredible Like oh you don't really have that CD Like what?

[30] Then you were like get out No seriously get out Yeah how dare you How dare you fart in my space with the brain How dare you Oh my God You guys that's got to be so trippy you're in like that really cool stage of the movie this is like the really cool stage that honestly to be honest with you like seriously like we've toured for years now and like no disrespect to the other people we've tour with because they've been incredible but like from my childhood like listening to her I remember like driving in the car with my mother and like making her harmonize with me for the show of crow songs I'm like no mom you I take the top you take the bottom then we weave come on And then I just like, do it again and do it again.

[31] And just to watch her perform, like, right in front of me. And then to say, to say, like, oh, you know, you guys really need to, we need to talk about honey, honey.

[32] And she really gave us the time up there.

[33] Like, I fucking freaked out.

[34] I was, I was emotional about it.

[35] It was really cool.

[36] And you see her as a real person, too.

[37] I mean, I don't know.

[38] She's very tiny.

[39] Yeah, she's very small.

[40] Really?

[41] Put her in your pocket.

[42] But it's not like this product or anything like that.

[43] You have the CD in your car.

[44] You have a downloader or a video.

[45] and it's all these like representations but then she's right there you know and she saw her once at a Baja fresh really yeah she was in line at a Baja that's awesome I was like oh shit that's Cheryl crow that's burritos I didn't say anything though kept it kept it kept on the were you paying attention to what she ordered no no I remember to this day I took the bag out of the trash no cheese please how many people would do that me just kidding sort of many creepy would steal her food.

[46] Just to wrap it up, pull it out of the trash and zip lock it.

[47] Well, that's like, not to be disgusting, but, you know, they talk about, like, the 70s stories where, like, you know, groupies would, like, steal condoms from, like, Mick Jagger.

[48] Shazam and try to impregnate themselves.

[49] Sorry, brought that up.

[50] Whoa.

[51] There's, you know, I think it's not as rock and roll anymore as it used to be.

[52] The rock and roll life is not as rock and roll?

[53] Did Twitter ruin it?

[54] No, I mean, I think there's just, like, safety issues.

[55] It's like, you know, don't go in the trash.

[56] trash fishing for use condoms.

[57] Yeah, it's probably not a good move.

[58] I would say people have learned that.

[59] We've evolved.

[60] Teach your own.

[61] You know, we figured out fire.

[62] I'm really sorry.

[63] And then we figured out that.

[64] Don't do that.

[65] This could burn you.

[66] Yeah, don't go doing that.

[67] No, but seriously, I think that, like, you can't, you know, back in the day, it was like, you know, I don't know, Metallica or somebody, whoever, you know, rage against the machine.

[68] I shouldn't name names because I don't want to misquote anyone, but, like, you know bigger bands would just like trash a hotel room or you know that like the 80s it was yeah there we go it was yeah you know the job you're not really saying those good bands because i don't know if any of those no i don't and i love those bands so i should watch my mouth let's just be care let's be clear we just look at i i've done that you've just look for an example and you go uh it might not have really been them but but nowadays like if you if you disrespect establishments and venues like that people don't want to have you back even if you sell it out it's like you're you know you're you're you're you're There's like a sort of a new wave of sort of, you know, everybody went to rehab and then they came back and they realized that you need to be respectful and, you know, people are working.

[69] That's why John Travolta can't get massages at some joints.

[70] That's why.

[71] That's exactly why.

[72] They were like, dude, I don't give a fuck who you are.

[73] Stop trying to fuck my staff.

[74] You know?

[75] Oh, man. Be nice, man. Well, that's what happens to me now.

[76] I'm just kidding.

[77] That's funny.

[78] People fucking your staff.

[79] Yeah, exactly.

[80] No, they don't let me in to get a massage.

[81] Oh, right.

[82] Yeah, you can't be trash in people's hotel rooms, right?

[83] That's fucking rude as shit.

[84] It is.

[85] I don't know.

[86] It's rude to everybody else to stay in the hotel, too.

[87] They're all going to hear that.

[88] Maybe we spilled a little bit of the hummus dip on the table, but that's about it.

[89] That's one of the different one is like a motel six.

[90] That's true.

[91] Like, what are we going to do?

[92] It's rock, boom, man. We did kind of trash a motel six by accident by default.

[93] How'd you do that?

[94] Well, we had a gig for the 4th of July in, in, Bogosa Springs, Colorado, which was incredibly, you know, just a great time.

[95] What part of it is that near?

[96] It's like four hours south of Denver.

[97] Wow.

[98] Yeah, a relaxing spa town.

[99] You know, hot springs are great, but they are stinky.

[100] But any - So it smells everywhere?

[101] Yeah.

[102] Sulfry?

[103] Yes, very much so.

[104] It's very stinky.

[105] Yeah, but apparently it's like mineral.

[106] I know.

[107] And everybody's like, it's so good for you.

[108] Yeah.

[109] It's pretty, it's funny.

[110] My buddies, I'm staying with my friend Dave.

[111] I was, Dave, if you're watching.

[112] says, hey, Dave, his toilet had this, like, backup thing last night, and it smelled horrible, but I was like, oh, but that also smells like the hot springs from the...

[113] It's healing.

[114] It's healing.

[115] And then I bathed in it.

[116] I'm just kidding.

[117] But anyway, on our way back from this Fourth of July gig, we were somewhere in, actually, we were in a town called Mexican Waters, Arizona, and we were at this gas station.

[118] Yes, in the Navajo Nation.

[119] In the middle of nowhere.

[120] How does that work?

[121] have to go through there?

[122] Do you have to, like, show ID to go through the Navajo Nation?

[123] No. Just drive through?

[124] No, you're good.

[125] You're pretty good to go.

[126] I don't think they want you to move there, though.

[127] That's what I was figuring out.

[128] How does that work, like, on reservations?

[129] You know, can you just, you could just drive in?

[130] We just went straight through.

[131] Bought some jewelry.

[132] Wow.

[133] And they were allowed to have totally different laws there, right?

[134] I believe so.

[135] No, yes, on reservation.

[136] Like, all I know as far as my experience with that sort of thing has to do with casinos, and yes, they have their own law.

[137] They have their own...

[138] They definitely have their own law as far as that, right?

[139] If someone calls the cops on you and you're within the reservation of that territory, they have their own law or their own police force.

[140] Wow.

[141] Yeah.

[142] That's kind of a fascinating trip, isn't it?

[143] Yeah.

[144] It's interesting, yeah.

[145] It's a...

[146] It's a...

[147] But I think that if there's a...

[148] If there's some sort of situation that needs to go, you know, to a higher level, then it's a federal case, and then it's...

[149] It's so...

[150] Intense.

[151] That's why I just try to...

[152] mine my P's and Q's when I'm going through Indian reservations.

[153] It's fascinating, though, isn't it?

[154] I mean, it's almost like an admittance that it was all stolen.

[155] It's like, yeah, we'll just give you this one pot.

[156] Yeah, so obvious that it was.

[157] Yeah, so obvious that it was.

[158] But that's like, is there any greater way to admit it than to have this, you know, areas where you like have a country inside a country, essentially.

[159] They're allowed to, you know, gambling's cool.

[160] We like gambling.

[161] Come on in.

[162] I wonder how federal aid works with that, though, like if that's a different thing, because you have all these other places that are getting, buy from federal aid but then you say hey you do your own thing i you know like federal aid can't fuck with gambling money gambling money is way more than federal aid if you had to choose between getting federal aid or the fucking kazillions that casinos rake in yeah you know when you look at casinos there's a reason why they're so big yeah all right these are grand places but it's such a it's such a it's such a huge gap from the top and the bottom you know the people that actually own the casinos a lot of tribes are actually by birthright, you're part of the casino.

[163] Some very, very small tribes.

[164] Like there's a tribe called...

[165] And everybody gets check?

[166] Yes.

[167] That's sweet.

[168] Shacopi.

[169] If you're Shacopi, Indian, you're a millionaire.

[170] Really?

[171] Yeah.

[172] I tried.

[173] I tried to prove it.

[174] No one, no one believed me. I was like, come on!

[175] Don't you see?

[176] Nothing?

[177] Wonder with your DNA test.

[178] What if you...

[179] I mean, can they prove it?

[180] How can they prove it?

[181] You have to have some sort of family tree?

[182] Yeah, there's got to be some sort of registration.

[183] you know, proof.

[184] I actually have no idea, to be honest.

[185] No, I mean, it's trying to be an Indian.

[186] Yeah, I don't.

[187] Let's figure they haven't figured out.

[188] It is a trip, though, when you think about the fact that there's nations within a nation.

[189] Oh, yeah.

[190] There's Indian reservations.

[191] It's like, it's really weird.

[192] It is interesting.

[193] A lot of fights there.

[194] When California, when mixed martial arts was illegal, they used to have these fights in the any casinos.

[195] Really?

[196] It's the only places that would have them.

[197] Yeah, the Indian casinos would let them come, and we would do like King of the Cage.

[198] When was that?

[199] I guess it was the 90s Oh it was illegal in the 90s I didn't know that Yeah like the late 90s Because the UFC came about in 93 And it was illegal here after that It was like you could and then they got sanctioned And when they got sanctioned that now We have fights here all the time Like there's going to be one next weekend Actually or August August 3rd or 4th on Fox So like they have me here all the time but back then you used to have to go to these casinos where like in the middle of nowhere you would drive like way deep down these weird fucking roads in the middle of nowhere and you'd find this casino and that's where they'd have King of the Cage and it would be in a parking lot and they fought outside oh man fight club style they fought outside indie rock fighting which is what we're organizing illegally and one time it rained these guys were fighting in this indie casino in the rain on this slippery surface so they're like throwing punches and flying through the air and slipping and sliding all over the place compound fractures pouring rain that sounds horrible yeah ridiculous ridiculous but i mean that was the kind of shit that was going on you know and they were allowed to do that only because it was indian reservations really nuts stop and think about it they would the indians were like come on in oh my god they're like we'll take your money come on in dude they had no problem with it you know why are you guys being such pussies and meanwhile they were right man there's it's uh it's such an interesting subject because like you know i'm really into the show deadwood oh the HBO show yeah i'm obsessed with it i i fix myself a whiskey and i watch it for hours maybe more than uh whiskey um and it's you know it's beautifully shot and um you know but it's about deadwood the town um is it montana it's montana no oh Wyoming Wyoming shit i should know this as a diehard fan what an idiot um but anyway it uh one of those old west yes Timey days.

[200] But, you know, it was one of the last sort of, one of the last towns that was sort of its own law, which is why, you know, it's so wild and there's all these, you know, crazy, you know, there's real cowboys.

[201] Right.

[202] Real cowboys on TV.

[203] But, you know, that when they're also, you know, in contention with, with, you know, local tribes and things.

[204] And there's, there's these gnarly fights.

[205] And, you know, it's, it's a, it's fictitious as a television show, but it's also, you know, real in a sense that that was, that actually.

[206] happened at one point and it's it's a really interesting sentiment to sort of really let sink in and it makes me really sad you know because they were they were just outcast and you know then they were on these reservations and you know when you drive through there it's a really interesting interesting thing because there's casinos and and then there's there's these beautiful historical um you know monuments and things and like there's art um there's music there's there's traditional elements and it's really, it's like this, like you're sort of juxtaposed next to the traditional historic part and then the casinos and then like what's happening now, which is a lot of poverty.

[207] And so it's really, it's really a weird paradox to be in, you know, when you're going through there and we travel all the time.

[208] But, you know, not to go back to where I started, but the story was when we were talking about messing up a motel six hotel room.

[209] When we were going through Navajo Indian Country, we stopped at this gas station and I picked up a dog.

[210] She's this new little part of my life.

[211] Somebody left her there for a week.

[212] And it was really...

[213] Like a gas station?

[214] Yeah, yeah.

[215] She's amazing.

[216] And she just ran up to me and kind of gave me like a little dog hug.

[217] And I was like, oh, hello.

[218] Well, what are you doing here?

[219] And, you know, the people at the gas station were like, yeah, she's been here a week.

[220] You know, people drop their dogs off all the time.

[221] And I was like, people can fucking suck it.

[222] I'm taking the dog.

[223] Good for you.

[224] But our first night with her, I think she was freaked out because she was outside for a week and, you know, eating out of dumpsters.

[225] And then, you know, we brought her into the hotel room.

[226] And I had her outside for like 20 minutes.

[227] I was trying to get her to go to the bathroom.

[228] It wasn't happened.

[229] All day.

[230] All day.

[231] We just kind of like, she was saving it.

[232] Mind you, we thought she was pregnant.

[233] And I was like, oh, no, this is going to be really bad.

[234] And then when we stopped at this, this Walmart to get, you know, the necessary acutements for dogs, like, you know, treats, leashes.

[235] In the parking lot of the Walmart, she took the biggest dog shit I've ever seen.

[236] And I needed two bags and it was like five pounds.

[237] It's disgusting.

[238] But then she didn't look pregnant anymore.

[239] Yeah, I was like, boom.

[240] And she looked starving.

[241] But, you know, we took her around and, you know, we basically were trying to get her to go.

[242] and she sort of went a little bit.

[243] I think she was freaked out, but to make a long story short, in the middle of the night, she hopped up, not even, like we all went to bed.

[244] She hopped in bed with our tour manager and just peed.

[245] Oh, Like in, like gallons.

[246] Oh, and this was after we'd, you know, we'd wash just as clumps of hair everywhere.

[247] We washed her.

[248] It was a big deal.

[249] So she's a wild dog, essentially.

[250] No, you know, I don't think she's, she definitely, she is, now she is.

[251] That was the only time I've seen her just be an asshole.

[252] And I was like, Her name's Louise, and I was like, what the fuck, Louise?

[253] Seems like they're going to go back to the shell gas station in a couple of weeks.

[254] No way.

[255] I mean, who hasn't peed the bed at some point, right?

[256] Right.

[257] If you haven't peed the bed, you're not taking enough chance.

[258] You might like it.

[259] Yeah, you probably need to live a little more, son.

[260] We should really challenge ourselves, Ben, and, you know, really just drink ourselves.

[261] How many close calls do you get, though?

[262] We think about peeing in a dream, and you're like, you, motherfucker.

[263] fucker and then you wake up i can't say that i felt that in my adulthood i'm not going to lie i'm not going to lie yeah it creeps on the door to me yep i have it creeps it creeps right up to the door it's like man maybe we just go into this bathroom real quick and pee and i'll walk in and unzip and i go i'm not in a bathroom i'm sleeping you're motherfucker and i get up and i get angry do you have an enlarged people joe no it seems pretty normal yeah but it's uh you know there you go i talk in my sleep that's as far as it goes you know do you i i have full -on discussions i could have a full -on conversation with someone and not know it and it was truthful which is you know what i should stop talking those are my favorite it is kind of fascinating though that you can have i mean i think most of us have had that happen and sometime in your life where you thought you were at a bathroom in your dream and you peed i haven't done that never when you were a little kid i don't think so i actually peed in my like where i woke up and I'm like I'm peeing right now this is crazy I mean I do that like you know once a week but where are you are you in bed when this is happening imagine if like Brian just came out told us he pisses the bed once a week that's so funny it's like totally normal that happens to me when I'm driving sometimes I'm driving right now I mean I pee a little have you ever had a pee in the car never had a pee in the car I've peed out of my door while driving into a bottle oh god that's impressive and you just And very dangerous.

[264] I've peed in a gatorade bottle.

[265] Oh, okay.

[266] It just got to.

[267] It's got a bigger mouth, so that's good, you know.

[268] Exactly.

[269] It was so.

[270] I think it's like, you know, if you're stuck in the car and you don't do that, your options are piss all of yourself.

[271] Can't do that.

[272] Break something internally, right?

[273] It's hard to know where that line is.

[274] Right.

[275] Are you being a pussy?

[276] Well, it's easier for you guys to take care of that.

[277] Oh, yeah, for sure.

[278] We have a nozzle.

[279] I'm definitely, I've definitely had some got to run over.

[280] Actually, when we were, we played Sasquatch, I went and peed behind a haystack.

[281] And I felt really good about it.

[282] I felt like it was really authentic for the festival that we were playing.

[283] And I was really in a bad spot.

[284] I had to go.

[285] One of my favorite moments of travel and meeting random people has to do a girl peeing in front of a hotel.

[286] I was with Mark the Hammer Coleman He's this UFC heavyweight champion dude And me and him were at this We were at this weird little strip club place In Augusta, Georgia And this is like We've probably been there This is like the pink pony The pink pony asking to say no that's in Atlanta This is like 96 maybe Somewhere around then Like 1996 And there's this girl that's working there And she's got really stinky breath And she keeps trying to talk to me It was terrible.

[287] She was really aggressive, and she was one of those girls that was like a white girl, but she talks like a black girl.

[288] She's like, oh, you don't even know what the fuck you'll miss in.

[289] You don't even know what the fuck you're.

[290] So she winds up, Mark winds up leaving.

[291] We wind up, and this girl is friends with a girl that is with Mark.

[292] So you're stuck with her.

[293] I'm stuck with her in the car.

[294] She's wearing wrestling pants or wrestling, wrestling shoes and sweatpants.

[295] And the whole time we're in the car.

[296] You don't know what the fuck was.

[297] y 'all missing.

[298] You don't know what.

[299] You're like, I'm missing that rose beef sandwich you had for lunch because I can smell it.

[300] It was the most ridiculous thing ever.

[301] We get to the hotel and Mark grabs his friend and bales and leaves this, like literally grabs her and runs with her.

[302] And this one is stuck outside.

[303] So she's like, I need to know where Mark the motherfucking Hammer Coleman's room is.

[304] She's like yelling in the lobby.

[305] They kick her out of the hotel.

[306] She pulls down her pants and pulls that are pants and she's peeing right in like the foyer.

[307] She goes, y 'all got me out here passing in the street like I'm some kind of fucking animal.

[308] Oh my God.

[309] I hope you videotape that.

[310] No, there was no videos back then.

[311] In 1996.

[312] Yeah, it was pre -free.

[313] You had to have a fucking camera with you back then.

[314] You'd be carrying some shit.

[315] With VHS?

[316] Yeah, you had a big ass, big ass tape in it.

[317] Yeah.

[318] I'll never forget her.

[319] I'll never forget her.

[320] And she was sober, right?

[321] Yeah, they kicked her when they were trying to kick her out, you wanted to use the bathroom, which is one of the things that people will do to try to regain control.

[322] Like if you're getting kicked out of a bar.

[323] Okay, okay, I'll leave.

[324] Let me use the bathroom first.

[325] I'll leave.

[326] So it's like you get to leave sort of on your terms, get a little dignity, get a little power back.

[327] That's what she was trying to do.

[328] She's like, well, they were kicking her out.

[329] I need to know where I'm marked the motherfucking hammer, call them ,'s room.

[330] They're like, ma 'am, you have to leave.

[331] You have to leave.

[332] And the security came over.

[333] She said, I'll leave it.

[334] I need to use a bathroom.

[335] I need to use a bathroom.

[336] She really did have to use the bathroom room.

[337] She did.

[338] Squatted down and pushed her sweatpants forward so she wouldn't pee on them.

[339] I'll never forget the river of piss.

[340] I'll never forget standing there shaking my head.

[341] That sounds adorable.

[342] It was fantastic.

[343] I wish I knew her name because I could follow her on Facebook.

[344] Because I know she says some awesome shit.

[345] Oh, fuck.

[346] You know, y 'all got me out here passing in the street like I'm some kind of fucking animal.

[347] I'll never forget that show.

[348] Yeah, please.

[349] Man, those are fun.

[350] Road stories are the best.

[351] There's so many.

[352] You know, you meet the most interesting people and only for a second, you know.

[353] And, man. Do you find it weird how different the vibe is from city to city?

[354] The cities are so, they're so very.

[355] It's so interesting, isn't it?

[356] You're like regionally.

[357] Yeah.

[358] It changes so much.

[359] It's really bizarre.

[360] when you try to absorb the whole United States as a whole and try to just wrap your head around how many different communities it entails, how huge it really is, and how different it really is in different parts.

[361] It's amazing.

[362] I prefer those, you know, sort of like peeing in the middle of the, you know, foyer or lobby area moments.

[363] You like those moments?

[364] Which is usually, you know, you're in the deep south.

[365] Yeah, there's some fun happening.

[366] Oh, yeah.

[367] that hopefully nobody gets shot i feel like in the not you know i i love the south i obviously i'm you know calling out um you know public urinating but like i find that um in this southern style you you find a lot more sort of a candid kind of person right that you know there's there's all these um puns and things that are so brilliant yet so simple you know like like you know sweating like a horn church that's my favorite you know like a horn church yeah that really is a southern thing that kind of thing and there's so i mean they're infinite there's so many of them and i just i want to go down there and study your puns you know i want to i want to i want to learn the southern vernacular and it's like an arsenal of all these just amazing things and you know there's we did a good one our card broken down we're getting yeah we're in the parking lot of this place because uh we're just waiting for triple a or something to come and then we roll into the sandwich spot it was a subway possibly a subway it might have been a blimpie or something like that i don't matter um the point is and these two people once we had ordered the woman who was making the sandwiches and this guy who walked in the door just started bringing up the lorina bobbett story recently i think the lorraine obit had been released from prison or something or something had happened or bobbit the the man had done a porno or something like there was something yeah he had done something that had happened in the media that the name was relevant but yeah and they're just conversed and then you know it gets this point was woman she said and they're cutting her roast beef and she goes, yeah, she just threw that dick in the middle of the highway.

[368] It's like, how often do you hear that?

[369] And it was like, threw that dick in the middle of the highway.

[370] Mm -hmm.

[371] Mm -hmm.

[372] You're all mustard on this bitch?

[373] Yeah, it's like, do you want, extra manings?

[374] Yeah, and some Chipotle sauce.

[375] Yeah.

[376] The South certainly has a lot of flavor.

[377] I love it.

[378] I love it.

[379] Yeah, I'm a big fan of Texas.

[380] It's one of my favorite places to perform.

[381] It's great.

[382] And I did my last special in Atlanta.

[383] Did you?

[384] Atlanta's the shit.

[385] Yeah.

[386] That's probably been the place we spent the most time in strip clubs.

[387] We're just talking about strip clothes.

[388] One of this place called the Pink Pony.

[389] Where's that?

[390] Costco strip clubs.

[391] Yeah, it was like the Walmart Costco of strip clubs.

[392] There's every, every flavor and just everything you want.

[393] It was our first, it was our first strip club experience.

[394] Maybe.

[395] Yeah.

[396] Was it you, not you?

[397] It was mine.

[398] We were just, we were with our first record company.

[399] And they're, are you familiar with the band Jackal?

[400] I've heard the name.

[401] So, you know, it was 80s, 90s, 80s, started 80s, 90s.

[402] Yeah, what kind of music were then?

[403] I think he would, cock rock, is cock rock, yeah, he would call it that.

[404] Okay.

[405] Well, there's a member of the band, is he the lead singer?

[406] Yeah, Jesse James Dupree.

[407] How many people are right now, dude, you don't know who Jackal is?

[408] Jackal, yeah, well, Jesse James Dupree is an unbelievable, amazing human being and a good friend of ours.

[409] And he actually was affiliated with our record company.

[410] and, by the way, he plays the chainsaw.

[411] Huh?

[412] He plays the chainsaw on stage.

[413] He had created a guitar out of a chainsaw.

[414] There's not too much of a harmonious, you know, addition to the music, but it's more of like it's a real chainsaw, and he will play it, and then he'll usually, like, shred things like a wooden chair.

[415] Jesus Christ.

[416] Yeah, we played this show.

[417] We were opening for our friend Rocco DeLuca and Jesse James came out on stage.

[418] He shredded things.

[419] And it's fucking terrifying because I'm like, please don't cut your leg off.

[420] Oh, my, oh my God.

[421] And you just watch.

[422] How is that legal?

[423] I don't know.

[424] Yeah, it just kind of happened.

[425] But they're playing this like dirty blues rock down to the kittan, down, down, and he just goes, that is so crazy.

[426] It takes a stool apart on the stage.

[427] That is so crazy.

[428] What does the audience go bananas?

[429] It's insane.

[430] How can you not?

[431] You know?

[432] That must go ape shit.

[433] But afterwards, they took us in a banana yellow.

[434] limousine from like the night like 80s or 90s like an old limo like like stretch limo we get picked up um by Jesse and there they are there he is look at it I can hear it oh there it that's it that's it that's it that's Jesse oh this is beyond awesome Jesse Jay that man took us to our first my first strip club experience man he can really belt it he's very ACDC Yes, yes, yes.

[435] They have a huge following.

[436] I mean, I think they tour every summer for like a month or so.

[437] But he's incredible.

[438] And so we did like a, we were in Atlanta for like 10 days, like four years ago, five years, probably longer than that.

[439] Five or six years ago.

[440] We were brand spanking new.

[441] Like we hadn't even done our first record yet.

[442] We're just trying to figure out how to, you know, we're like, okay, I guess this is what bands do.

[443] And we get picked up by Jesse James Dupree in a yellow taxi stretch limo.

[444] but I you know from the 1991 so it's a real old looking vehicle and there's there's a case in Miller light and he's like you know we're going to the strip club and I just like I remember being like is this it's like I think this is what we're supposed to do we're supposed to fucking get down and like and then like you know flash cut to like these fucking huge tits in my face and I'm getting my first lap dance paid for by another record exact and you know she kind of bit my neck and that was fun you know but it was just like it was really weird and she and I smelled like her later you know and I just remember being like wow okay but um it's a weird thing yeah it's a weird thing yeah it's like 21 years old I think it's a very strange like gray area you know because it's not prostitution no but it's an intimate moment but they're intimate with you for money like they want to get close to you I mean there's nothing wrong with it there's nothing wrong with it and it's like I don't think there's anything wrong with prostitution I think if you want to do it, I don't recommend it, but I would say that there shouldn't be laws against it.

[445] Legalize it.

[446] Yeah, if there's not laws against fucking people, why should there be laws against fucking people for money?

[447] That's crazy.

[448] That doesn't make any sense.

[449] It's like, just, it should be legal.

[450] I mean, I'm not saying you should do it.

[451] You definitely shouldn't do it.

[452] It's gross.

[453] Don't do it.

[454] I mean, I don't know how I feel about it, to be honest with you.

[455] I'm just kind of like, you know, just everybody take care of yourself.

[456] Yeah, everybody take care of yourself, but I think the less like laws like that, like why, who says?

[457] Because it doesn't restrict anything.

[458] It just still happens.

[459] Then it just happens illegally.

[460] And then people are doing things that are risky.

[461] Isn't it legal in Vegas?

[462] Yeah, Nevada.

[463] No, it's not.

[464] It's legal in certain parts of Nevada.

[465] A very small area.

[466] We did a thing for it on the man show.

[467] It's like one county.

[468] I think it's really.

[469] Oh, yeah.

[470] They had HBO show on that.

[471] That's really interesting.

[472] Do whatever the fuck you want to do.

[473] That's really interesting because that particular brothel, if you will, to be to throwback, is very, you know, it looks like they have a nice system, you know, as far as being clean and safe, you know, the clients that come in, you know, it's not like hos are getting, you know, cut.

[474] Yeah, I mean, look, you should be able to, if that's where you want to work, you should be able to work there.

[475] It seems to me that you're not hurting anybody.

[476] So if the music thing does, if our Kickstarter account doesn't take off, guys, I will be, you can find me in that one county in Nevada.

[477] and um that way if don't tease that's what's keeping you people just band or horn she's like that's all there is there's no little baby steps i don't want to be a clerk and a 7 -11 fucking working at wendy's no way although actually i before i would do that i would love to work at trader joes trade a joe yeah they all see very happy and everybody's so happy there healthy food probably get a discount but if they didn't hire me i would definitely end up in that brothel definitely definitely it's like there's not a lot of options here it's pretty obvious that's where it'd be I think it's weird when you watch those movies in the old west when they always had a brothel and it was always like every fucking street was exactly the same it was a dirt road and there was a bunch of buildings real close to each other on one side and a bunch and that was the whole fucking town I mean it's like the most unoriginal architecture set up ever you know it was like the dumbest engineering one straight town there's your brothel there's your billiards but now it's fun it's like entertainment has no bounds you know what I mean like there's so many different flavors now.

[478] It must have sucked so hard to be stuck in the Wild West.

[479] Could you imagine how bad, very little laws?

[480] I mean, it's just people were jacking each other.

[481] We were talking about this when we both got into Deadwood.

[482] It's like, I'm sure you had to get used to body odor, because I'm sure people smelled fucking terrible all the time.

[483] Just think about a point in our history where it was an actual reality that people would have draws.

[484] They would draw each other and see who could pull their gun out the quickest and shoot you.

[485] That was an actual reality, that there were gunfighters.

[486] They didn't brush their teeth and they shot each other.

[487] That's gross.

[488] By a lot of town, you get killed by bandits or something or the Indian tribe that you stole the land from, he's going to kill you.

[489] Yeah, and there's a lot of those towns they didn't make it.

[490] They were there for a little while and then the mind dried up or whatever the fuck was dragging people there dried up and that's it.

[491] And then you can go through a whole town and see a real ghost town.

[492] Oh, yeah, it's fascinating.

[493] You can feel the energy of like, it's pretty wild.

[494] That sounds so hippie -dippy, but there's a guy named Rupert Seldrake, and I think he believes that there's some type of memory in everything.

[495] And the idea is that, like, even objects, like, they actually do contain some sort of memory.

[496] That's why people get creeped out in a house where someone was murdered.

[497] You don't want to, even though it happened a long time ago, you don't want to be in that house.

[498] You don't want to be in that spot.

[499] It was like New York City.

[500] I feel like there's such a powerful energy there because there's so much.

[501] much residual memory there you know what i mean it's like there's definitely that there's an energy to it right remember we we were there like a couple months ago we were on tour and um we were we were stopping to get some lunch and in the middle of um i'm not sure like midtown area wasn't there there's this like cemetery literally in the middle of tiny little cemetery in the middle of the block and it was so interesting because i think it was sanctioned off like you couldn't build anything there it was it was legitimately protected and it was so in like it was from like was it like the 1800s or something well then you realize all these towns like New York used to be a city like that town I mean it wasn't just one remember gangs in New York that was pretty awesome yeah fuck that was an awesome movie Cameron Diaz redhead what yeah Daniel de Lewis got to kill him motherfuckers god damn that dude's a bad motherfucker that movie Jesus Christ would it build the butcher is that what his name was that wasn't what New York was really like.

[502] Like you think of New York, it's always being like Beep, Beep, Hong Kong.

[503] No, no, no, no, no. They were on fucking horses, man. They started out on horses.

[504] Yeah, with clevers, jacking each other in wars in the streets.

[505] Have you read any Caleb Carr books?

[506] No. There's a book called The Alienist.

[507] And then Angel of Darkness.

[508] The other one.

[509] He's an incredible author and had written these amazing stories about New York, and they're very dark.

[510] But Circa.

[511] They're like, novels are historical crime novels amazing and it's like this it puts you in this world the late 1800s in New York City and it bases around this figure who's using psychology to solve these serial killings for the first time you know like the first time that psychology and psychiatry is used to analyze these crimes but yeah but like the visual of the town is pretty wild because it's he uses actual like actual places that were you know relevant to the time and it's you know it's pretty pretty interesting you know there's a lot of gangs like gangs in New York and things like that and cocaine and prostitution and you know all the great things that are happening now probably less now right they were they were crazy back then there's a lot I mean the idea of living in sort of a semi lawless place like that we just kind of count on the sheriff to write a wrong and go get this poor guy and he's ready to retire and he's got a stupid gold star on like in the movies and that's what life on the road is like looking out for the sheriff who's the sheriff and honey honey oh god I don't know I think we passed the badge Are you guys having a power struggle right in front of me?

[512] No definitely not I played tennis this morning oh let's want to talk about it I was up three games okay I was up three nothing and I was fucking killing it and then I got cocky and it's my fault but you know what i can you say it's your fault because well i got cocky and then my knee started to hurt and i couldn't get those far right shots and it was i lost six three and i felt like a chump seems like you and i got really mad and i didn't talk to ben for like an hour you got mad when you lost well yeah yeah i was really competitive i was above that was a big moment for me because i've really been sucking i know that's something to go some people have to learn how to not be angry at people when they play games with them well real games yeah When I was a little kid, I used to have that.

[513] Really?

[514] Yeah, I'd be angry.

[515] If I played a game with someone and they beat me, I'd be angry.

[516] You know what's funny?

[517] I only do that with Ben.

[518] I swear to God.

[519] That really would be true.

[520] You weren't really upset at him for an hour.

[521] No, I was upset with myself and I was like kind of.

[522] But it was just a game.

[523] No, I'm not really.

[524] She thinks she's entitled to beating me. Is this real like, if she's not beating me something and you're some kind of a tennis player?

[525] Whoa.

[526] Oh, damn, swole.

[527] Why?

[528] Don't see.

[529] The new mood's working.

[530] Yeah, it's already kicking in.

[531] Oh, okay, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done.

[532] I'm getting yokes.

[533] I know, I'm feeling warm.

[534] How long have you been playing tennis?

[535] I don't know.

[536] I mean, I didn't play, well, when I retired as a professional.

[537] Damn it.

[538] Probably like six or seven years, you know.

[539] But like recreationally speaking.

[540] It's something that always look really fun to me. It's great.

[541] It's great.

[542] It's a great workout.

[543] I played it once.

[544] It's a total body kind of thing.

[545] My friend Rich Seisler is a really good tennis player.

[546] I played with him once.

[547] It's good times.

[548] I don't know how to play it.

[549] You know, to be honest with you, it's really fun.

[550] We actually started playing as a band because both our bass player and drummer play.

[551] And, you know, when you're on the road, you have very few opportunities to get physical exercise.

[552] I mean, the whole.

[553] It should be a good way to get it out.

[554] It's great.

[555] Yeah, we have a really good time.

[556] So the whole competitive thing is harmless.

[557] It's just kind of funny.

[558] There's like you have these little championships within yourself where I'm like, I'm going to beat Ben because I'm, I need this right now.

[559] Then I'm going to play the solo tonight.

[560] That's what it is.

[561] He's not allowed to talk to the microphone.

[562] You guys have negotiations.

[563] That's kind of cool.

[564] Do you ever have like rock paper scissors to what song you start with?

[565] We do it on stage all the time.

[566] time you guys seem to get along really well for a guy and a girl in a band together i mean that's we were just talking about that on our way over here actually because it's it's really difficult right now there's there's a lot of um i've been a real asshole no you haven't been fucking great i've been the asshole i was such a dick on the way over here i was so so basically we're really we really a dick i was no i was like i wanted to kick my dashboard i was because i haven't slept for like three days.

[567] We've been on the road and you know where you drive sometimes you drive after a show and then you get to a hotel and like in my mind I'm like you have to sleep.

[568] If you don't sleep you're going to be fucked tomorrow and then I'm thinking about sleeping I don't sleep and then you get you know exhausted and with exhaustion comes like a slight bout of depression and I'm not a really I'm not a depressed depressive person when I am I have to like really tackle it because I want to rise above but it's definitely another element that you really have to contend with on the road because you're constantly in these uncomfortable positions.

[569] You're not eating well, you're not sleeping.

[570] You're playing every night and you're traveling and you're like in a van for eight hours, sometimes 10, 12 hours, depending on the drive, which is part of where we're at and part of why we should talk about our Kickstarter campaign because it's it's, you know, where we're at basically.

[571] But I was kind of a monster on the way over here.

[572] We were in bumper to bumper Harsh words were said.

[573] And I was, not to you.

[574] It was mainly, mainly about myself.

[575] I was, I don't attack you or your person.

[576] But, but we were talking about how, how funny it is that after being a band for like seven years, we're pretty resilient.

[577] Like, we don't, you know, at the end of the day, like, Ben's my best friend, and I love him, and I don't want to make him feel bad or hurt him ever.

[578] Well, I feel like that's why we've been able to be a band for seven years, because we've just been fighting the whole goddamn time.

[579] That's how it works.

[580] You're stupid.

[581] No, you're stupid.

[582] No, but we figure out how to make up every time.

[583] You know what I mean?

[584] That's like, that's the biggest thing.

[585] What are the fights usually about?

[586] Does it vary?

[587] Yeah, well, the first thing that comes to mind is driving.

[588] I get mad at you.

[589] Yeah, we fight a lot in the car when it's like, turn left, turn left.

[590] I said, turn left, you know.

[591] Well, that kind of shit.

[592] Put your seatbelt on.

[593] That's always a lot of fun.

[594] That's always really fun.

[595] But it's like the stupid shit.

[596] It's stupid.

[597] It's, you know what I mean?

[598] Oh, no. Did you guys watch our?

[599] video?

[600] No, not yet.

[601] Oh, no. What is this?

[602] That's our Kickstarter video.

[603] I should go to the bathroom now.

[604] What is the Kickstarter thing about?

[605] What's it about?

[606] Um, well, you should watch it.

[607] And then I guess we'll talk about it.

[608] Well, there's, but some of these people are listening.

[609] There he is.

[610] Are you ready?

[611] We need money for our next tour.

[612] We love you too, Vile.

[613] You've been so brave.

[614] So brave.

[615] Joe, we're sorry we didn't show you this earlier.

[616] What is this?

[617] For folks, they have a chicken and lipstick on their face.

[618] Donkey guru.

[619] They're about to have sex with a donkey.

[620] We've traveled hundreds of miles to see you.

[621] We are on a dark path and we seek your counsel.

[622] In exchange for your advice, we offer you the body of Suzanne, my bandmate and friend.

[623] She is a young woman, new bile.

[624] Very flexible.

[625] Excuse me, Donkey Guru.

[626] We're actually unoffering the body of Suzanne.

[627] And I think what my associate meant to say is he's offering his own body to you.

[628] I'm positive.

[629] That's what he meant.

[630] You and the donkey.

[631] No, we didn't talk about this at all.

[632] I don't think that's a terrible idea.

[633] What about the chicken?

[634] It's a rooster.

[635] Whatever.

[636] In exchange for your pearls of wisdom nuggets, we would like to offer our very warm.

[637] and loving companion Violet von Roosterstein.

[638] Violet has been with us for the past 47 days.

[639] We found him in New Mexico.

[640] We hope you humbly accept this is all right now.

[641] Go for it.

[642] No, let it just happen.

[643] So the rooster is going towards the donkey and they're on their knees.

[644] Now the donkey is having sex with the rooster for your audio listeners.

[645] Ryan.

[646] That poor rooster.

[647] He liked it.

[648] Take your time, donkey.

[649] He's still having sex with it.

[650] He's slow.

[651] Making love.

[652] How high were you guys when you made this?

[653] It's for real.

[654] This is one of our high points.

[655] I mean, it really showcases Ben's acting skills.

[656] This is one of the weirdest fucking things I've ever seen in my life.

[657] Donky, we have one last thing we can offer you, our most prized possession.

[658] No!

[659] We took a little off the clock, but that's fine.

[660] We share it with you this way.

[661] Take this piece of our heart.

[662] No, look, let it go.

[663] We're just looking for answers, guys.

[664] You gave the Jack Daniels to the donkey?

[665] We gave you the fucking Jack Daniels.

[666] How do we get back to the road?

[667] Look, Donkey.

[668] We're sorry if we've wasted your time, but this is...

[669] for us.

[670] You don't have the answers we're looking for.

[671] We're going to go now.

[672] Thank you.

[673] And goodbye.

[674] No, you know what?

[675] Fuck you.

[676] Fuck you.

[677] Dog.

[678] Fuck you.

[679] You know, I'm going to do all you, you guys.

[680] You guys might.

[681] This is what we do when we're not talking.

[682] You guys might be crazy.

[683] We have to see the whole thing.

[684] There's a purpose to this.

[685] If you've made it this far, you are either a die -hard honey -honey -honey.

[686] or you're just really into donkeys.

[687] Which is understandable because the donkey is a magnificent beast.

[688] We created this Kickstarter project to fund our rigorous and also vigorous touring schedule, which as emotionally priceless as it is, which is the truth, has left a gaping black hole where the money should be.

[689] Life's hard.

[690] You've got to roll with it.

[691] You got to roll with it.

[692] Our goal is to raise $17 ,000.

[693] This will cover our van rental, our tour manager, our stalwart bandmates, Patrick Taylor, also known as P. Tay Jazz, and Jerry Porter, Uncle Jiggity.

[694] Jigs.

[695] Jigs.

[696] Also, gas and merchandise.

[697] We're so thankful for all the support we've gotten this far.

[698] We just want to keep making this music, performing it all over the country.

[699] Maybe it's the world.

[700] And whether you donate money or just send your happiness and good vibes and love, we are Overjoyed to be reaching you, I'm touching you.

[701] Touching you deeply.

[702] Being touched by you.

[703] You've definitely touched us.

[704] You guys really, go to a doctor.

[705] There's something going on.

[706] 9 ,000.

[707] Ben, we're at 9 ,100.

[708] That's great.

[709] I may refresh it now because this hasn't been refreshed.

[710] Oh, my God, that's fantastic.

[711] Still 9100.

[712] That's great.

[713] deal no that's good that's really good we're but honestly is this what people are doing now oh yeah yeah is this the new thing yeah we've been like one of it's it's great in like the last six months i feel like all these people are coming out with these kickstaters and so how does it work it's like you just you tell them like if you want like say like you want a pizza like you want to order a large piece you don't have any money put a kickstarter saying like hey help me buy this pizza that people, and if I can make $15, I'll let you have a bite if you're anywhere near me, and then they give you $15, and then you go buy a piece.

[714] We actually have an incredible reward system.

[715] It's really fun.

[716] I swear to God, you were talking about workouts earlier.

[717] I mean, the top reward for, I feel like I should go from the bottom and start, but the biggest reward is if someone donates $1 ,000, which is an incredible donation.

[718] unless you're a player well i mean damn son damn i just step up and drop a k one k on honey honey ban what up other than all the the rewards beneath the thousand dollars which are really fun we'll make a workout video specifically to you as warriors of the road we have devised effective and innovative measures to stay in a quasi -peak physical condition employing tactics like sarcasm clawing temptation and yelling let us be your Billy Blanks you guys are ridiculous what is wrong with you guys I have a question that is that what it is or is it just you're silly the $500 one it says you get a half hour Skype with whiskey with hangout with Suzanne and Ben's you get to cam with you now Ben do you have to be there I do actually what is the over under oh come on Brian But I'll take it off, too.

[719] What's the over under on dick picks?

[720] I don't know.

[721] How many are you going to get in return?

[722] Hello.

[723] Can you see them?

[724] Hopefully a lot.

[725] Can you see them as they see you on Skype?

[726] That's what that could be on.

[727] It is, right?

[728] Yeah.

[729] You ain't see a lot of dicks.

[730] I haven't cammed for it in a while, but half hour with whiskey.

[731] I think it might get a little weird.

[732] Have you heard this Facebook push?

[733] They're trying to get people to log in the YouTube comments?

[734] through Facebook so that you use your own identity.

[735] No. Yeah.

[736] It's kind of interesting.

[737] I like that idea.

[738] That would stop a lot of cuntiness.

[739] Yeah.

[740] Stop a lot of cuntiness.

[741] Yeah.

[742] What if you found out the cuntiest comments whereby someone you know, you're like, you son of a bitch.

[743] That's the worst.

[744] Oh, my God.

[745] You, son of a bitch.

[746] It's, um, country comments can really, really get under your skin, but you really need to be the better man and walk away.

[747] You do, but it's a fascinating thing that people can just reach out to you.

[748] what if we find out it's all just one person like the chocolate rain dude or something like that chocolate rain dude we met him brian you remember you met that guy yes i do we did this um one of those things weird things for twitter it was for twitter right wasn't it tweet the twitter fest yeah twitter fest yeah we met the chocolate rain guy you got to pee yeah i do rock it i'll be back you guys talk about chocolate rain guy and i'll uh we're going to talk about you By the way, FYI, if Brian gives you a chocolate bar And says only eat half I would say only eat a quarter Is it strong?

[749] You know, it's like you're trying to do a bear run up an icy mountain That's what it's like Your eyes do look for you fucked up.

[750] Oh my God, it's ridiculous.

[751] It's probably as high as I've ever been on earth doing a podcast yeah it's ridiculous you're breaking your own bars there Brian no he just gets them we were talking about how ridiculous these things are because you never know what the actual dosage is it's part of the problem with it being illegal well you do this is like the LA speedweed and on the back it says 17 % THC and it tells you the amount that's in it but you have no idea what that means it's like oh yeah it's 17 % THC well we live literally in the wild west of weed I mean, this is a crazy time.

[752] There's never a time like that where you can go to a store, and there's hundreds of them, and you can just buy the weed like that.

[753] That shit didn't even exist.

[754] Look at it.

[755] It says, actually, it says right here, it says, package contains 1 .5 grams of Skywalker OG.

[756] So these gummy bears.

[757] That would give you an idea.

[758] One point, yeah, if you eat all of them?

[759] Yeah, if you eat all of these.

[760] Sort of.

[761] I don't know what that means.

[762] What is a normal one have?

[763] What's your candy bar say?

[764] How many grams is that?

[765] Oh, here.

[766] Oops.

[767] This contains, where does it say?

[768] Did they actually have to do that?

[769] Is that like a new thing?

[770] No, I think that they just do it.

[771] The L .A .S .B. Weed people.

[772] Oh, okay.

[773] So there's some people who have like a system.

[774] Yeah.

[775] So you just got to get to use to their system.

[776] Right.

[777] Because you never really know.

[778] That's the weirdest thing.

[779] Like you can buy from some places.

[780] First of all, the people that work there, they can, but if you work at a weed store, chances are you go deep, you know?

[781] chances are you go really deep so they go well I would say eat a half don't listen to them don't listen to them half is too much oh this is a one ounce oh man are you guys taking edibles I just got back what's happening yeah yeah unfortunately I think we took a little too much oh no Ryan's got some chocolate no I'm really good I I recently had a very troubling experience with that with an edible yeah no I don't really smoke weed that often like I'll hang sometimes, but I kind of just turned into an idiot.

[782] Right.

[783] And when we were at Coachella, my buddy gave me a jolly rancher.

[784] And I, you know, rarely, like every once in a while, you know, smoked a little bit.

[785] Yeah, and they were like, take half.

[786] And I was like, like, you can't really fucking bite it, so I'll just take the whole thing.

[787] I was so fucking high.

[788] I was so excited to see Radiohead for the first time.

[789] And I was, I was up front.

[790] Like, thank God.

[791] Like, they did this incredible thing where they gave you an artist viewing area.

[792] I was right up front.

[793] And I literally felt like I was floating above them.

[794] And I was freaking out.

[795] Wow.

[796] It was amazing.

[797] Actually, you know what?

[798] I'll be honest with you.

[799] I'll totally out myself as a girl.

[800] How dare you?

[801] The super fucking foxy dude from True Blood was standing next to me. The werewolf.

[802] The werewolf.

[803] His name's Joe Mindian.

[804] Al -Gan -a -l -l -l -l -l -l -l -o.

[805] He's a beautiful man. And, you know, you can tell he probably uses a kettleball bell.

[806] So let's talk about his incredible pectoral muscles.

[807] No, I didn't meet him.

[808] I was just high as a kite.

[809] And I was by myself, which was probably stupid on my part.

[810] And I looked to my right, and he's standing next to me. And I went, oh, my God.

[811] And then he looked at me and I went, ha!

[812] No, you did.

[813] Yes, I did.

[814] And then he kind of slowly started, started to, like, drift through the, crowd and i was like oh my god like i've dreamed about this moment this is not how it's supposed to go it's supposed to involve a lot of other things that are really exciting and incredible and it didn't happen and i was just mortified and how it yeah what a fucked up time to meet somebody i hope that there are second chances out there let me tell you but i found ben and i was like ben you can't leave me i can't feel my face yeah you don't if you don't get high a lot if you don't smoke a lot You really shouldn't be fucking around with those edibles.

[815] I'm just a boozer.

[816] Especially around like 100 ,000 people.

[817] I like to booze, smoke cigarettes.

[818] Yeah, I think that's exactly the long place.

[819] It's very tricky.

[820] Well, you know, you learn your lesson, guys.

[821] And I consider myself humbled by my experiences at this past 2012 Coachella.

[822] I've said this 100 times in the podcast, but just in the interest of information, when you eat it, it's a totally different thing.

[823] When you eat marijuana, it's processed by your liver, and it produces.

[824] is something called 11 hydroxymetabolite.

[825] This is like four to five times more psychoactive than THC.

[826] So that's what's going on.

[827] So when you take it and you're like you don't feel high, you feel like a disassociative.

[828] Like you're gone.

[829] Well, it's kind of, I felt like I was hallucinating.

[830] I really did.

[831] Well, it is.

[832] Between radio head and the light show.

[833] Shit was happening.

[834] I was floating.

[835] Well, if you close your eyes, too, you would see amazing things behind your eyelids.

[836] I mean, you see, I've taken it and gotten on planes before, and you have these shows, where it'll do this show under your eyelids.

[837] Like, you close your eyes and you watch, like, neon cartoon things, fuck each other.

[838] Oh, that's incredible.

[839] I mean, it's a super potent shit.

[840] And it's, you know, it's not the same thing as the smoking it.

[841] It's a totally different experience.

[842] And it's not something you should just play around with.

[843] That's why those, do you remember that thing where the cops stole some pot from some kids?

[844] They stole, like, and they had pot brownies.

[845] In the movie Super Troopers?

[846] No, in a real, it wasn't in the movie Super Troopers.

[847] It was in a real life situation.

[848] And they called 911.

[849] They thought they were dying.

[850] Yeah.

[851] They thought they had been poisoned.

[852] They thought they were dying.

[853] They thought they might be already dead.

[854] Wait, I'm sorry.

[855] The cops took these kids weed and then they ate it.

[856] And then they called 911.

[857] The cops actually called 911 because they thought they were dying.

[858] They were freaking out so bad.

[859] They're like, you got to call 911.

[860] Oh, did they think it was just...

[861] Okay, I'll call them.

[862] I'll call them.

[863] I'm going to call them.

[864] Do they think it was just regular...

[865] No, they thought they were poison or something.

[866] Brownies?

[867] But, I mean, did they eat them because they're like, oh, those look tasty?

[868] No, they were...

[869] They stole them.

[870] the kids pot and made pot brownies and these fucking dummies didn't know how to handle it they didn't know how to like didn't know what the dosage was so then they freak out and then they call they called 911 and they have to fucking explain where they got all the weed from and what happened you crazy assholes they thought they were dead man you can get that high you can get apparently eating hash is like the nuttiest thing ever and there's there's like ancient texts of like these incredible psychedelic experience that people experienced while they were eating hash you know and so it was like it was the root of a lot of their you know the idea of about the mystical world you know it was based on this this consumption of hash and these crazy wild fucking trips they were going on i think it's it's really similar to mushrooms yeah i think when you hit when you eat a lot yeah it gets really similar when you eat a lot it gets really similar it gets it gets really self -examatory you know it's it's like great for clearing out psychic baggage and, you know, exposing parts of your brain.

[871] Like, people call it insecure or they call it paranoid, but really, it's probably just being aware, you know?

[872] I mean, you should kind of be freaking out a little bit, you know?

[873] We live in a crazy world.

[874] That's kind of like after you have, like, a really good cry, and then after that, you're totally, like, everything's cool, you can handle whatever, because you're just, you got it all out, you know, you're too exhausted to bullshit.

[875] Yeah.

[876] So you just have to be at your truth.

[877] Whoa.

[878] Some of your best ideas come when you're fucking exhausted.

[879] Maybe that's what's good about how we feel right now, Ben, because I feel like I might spontaneously combust sometimes.

[880] You guys are in a tough fucking business, man. You guys are super talented in a tough business.

[881] You're in a weird spot.

[882] Thank you.

[883] If you came along.

[884] No. are you're in a weird spot because if you guys had come along like just a decade earlier it would have been a real simple path to record sales it would have been a simple path to you know your own personal financial independence just based on your art maybe you know it's tough it's like everyone talks like there was some easy time never was i don't know if there was you know but i'm saying what i'm saying is that at least you could sell records then you can't you can't sell records anymore or you can but it the the amount that's been chewed down because of, I mean, it's probably pretty good with iTunes, you know, but it's nowhere near what it used to be.

[885] Not even close.

[886] What is the damage?

[887] Like how much has the music industry record sales and stuff you think been damaged by the internet?

[888] Well, I mean, CDs have basically killed CDs, and that's what most of the structure has been based around.

[889] You know, all these distribution methods, all these companies have, you know, built themselves up around physical products, but that doesn't really exist.

[890] So now they're trying to adjust to these digital sales methods.

[891] and there isn't like the framework, you know?

[892] Right, so they have to invent it on the fly and some companies fail.

[893] Or they just do, they have to listen to what iTunes tells them, you know, whereas before they were kind of making up the rules, you know?

[894] Wow, that's crazy how quickly it changed, isn't it?

[895] You should talk about that Spotify thing.

[896] What's Spotify?

[897] Oh, yeah.

[898] I heard they screw people.

[899] What?

[900] I heard Spotify's been screwing artists.

[901] Oh, hell yeah.

[902] We've got 9400 on our, what?

[903] We got another 300 bucks on our Kickstarter.

[904] Somebody told me recently that Spotify, that's awesome.

[905] Somebody told me recently that Spotify, Spotify doesn't pay the artist very well.

[906] They don't.

[907] Barely at all.

[908] At all.

[909] It's like pennies on the dollar.

[910] And that's like most internet things because they're trying to figure out how you could possibly offer this huge library of stuff to somebody for like 10 bucks a month.

[911] You know, because that's what people want to pay.

[912] Right.

[913] Well, how could they do that, right?

[914] Yeah.

[915] The idea is like that that becomes like a free trade radio sort of a situation.

[916] Hmm.

[917] But I mean, here's the thing.

[918] It's like I don't feel like agro or malicious or angry towards that mentality because, you know, as long as people are listening, that's great, you know, but we're a live band at the core.

[919] So when we're touring is when we're actually generating some sort of income, which is great.

[920] And, you know, but at this point, it's like you have to find these clever ways to try and make a living.

[921] And I don't think we're, I don't think we're far, but like the reason we're doing this Kickstarter account is because we just want that, like, that just a little bit of a leg up so we can support the people that are around us that are working very hard you know almost just as hard as we are and and then you know keep keep the sort of windfall ball rolling you know that that can you know get to that place where you're really sustained you know and you're really you're really going and um you know at the end of the day we're talking about how hard it is here and there and like we're tired and um but like we made this choice and we know that and I'm I wouldn't do anything else you know unless I if I'm doing this for 10 years but I don't I don't think that's going to happen you know hopefully but um you know you don't think what exactly is going to happen in 10 years I'll have to find another job you don't ever have to find another job right I mean isn't it all just about more people seeing your stuff more people hearing your stuff it's never really about finding another job yeah you guys are slow build man Yeah, that's what it.

[922] It's a slow build.

[923] I think that's, I think about, you don't ever really think about, you don't ever really think about stopping this and finding another job, do you?

[924] No. Because I'll fucking cry.

[925] No, don't you cry, Joe Rogan.

[926] Don't you dare.

[927] Have you guys thought, but is it frustrating?

[928] Is that we, are you, yeah, yeah.

[929] I mean, we're both, you know, crashing with friends and stuff like that, like we, but that's okay.

[930] Like, that's part of being a musician.

[931] It's like, you don't get rich, you know, quickly.

[932] And you don't, you know, somebody you never get rich.

[933] And it's not about getting rich.

[934] We're, we're trying.

[935] We're trying.

[936] to do what we love for a living and it's hard right now and you need a lot of help from your friends like in this day age artists make the majority of their money touring it's a majority either that there's like publishing channels that still exist if you get your stuff on a TV show you get on TV somewhere there's actual money there but that's such a tiny window you know so and what we're trying to do is just get to a point where we can have the people who support us really get to a point where we can support ourselves you know what I mean so it's a really interesting concept the the idea of like forming little communities like that on the internet you know because you know you're really you're reaching out to the people that really enjoy your stuff and they want to hear more your stuff like you can go right to them yeah it's just you your voice your little Kickstarter video right to them no filter donkey no nothing that was fun I'm sure it was it was have you really tested people's patients.

[937] I was like, what are you trying to do here?

[938] In the end, it was really funny.

[939] It really came together well.

[940] But I was like, you guys are, you guys, you're on drugs.

[941] Not telling me the truth.

[942] That's amazing.

[943] I'm so glad we like, we just didn't want to sit in front of a camera and be like, this is what we want to do.

[944] Right, right.

[945] Well, you know, you guys are silly.

[946] A little short film out of it with farm animals.

[947] You guys are silly.

[948] But it's good to be silly, you know.

[949] Too many people are trying too hard to be cool.

[950] you know you're way better off being silly right it's pretty ridiculous what we did silly silly's fun yeah silly's fun serious is annoying that was an important moment I think when we realized as Joe was watching it's like oh wait we made a movie with a donkey in a field asking you for the chicken I'm like what the fuck is with the lipstick on the cheeks and it's a rooster what are you guys doing your chicken rooster thing hey Brian we're never going to put oil on that door you know why because people are complaining about it.

[951] Are they really?

[952] Yeah, man, fucking you please put some WD40 on that door.

[953] It's a fucking door, man. You trip, and when you're in your house and you're having a conversation and somebody opens up the door, do you trip?

[954] Do you go, what the fuck, mom?

[955] Yes.

[956] Grow up, you little baby.

[957] So the door squeaks.

[958] Who cares?

[959] So many people can be so negative.

[960] Assholes.

[961] You experiencing a lot of love on the road, though?

[962] I saw a lot of positive tweets about people that went to see you.

[963] I saw a lot of that.

[964] Oh, my God.

[965] We got so much Rogan love, honestly, like every single place we went.

[966] And this is no joke.

[967] It's like there'd be at least, if it was a small night, there'd be like five or ten people.

[968] They came from this, but like in every city.

[969] There was, like, a good, like, 40 to 50 % of fans from you, which was really cool.

[970] Cincinnati was a huge one.

[971] Yeah.

[972] A lot of great.

[973] That's so awesome to hear.

[974] Those Ohio people are great.

[975] The fan base in Ohio is huge.

[976] That's why we need to go back to Ohio.

[977] Yeah, so bad.

[978] We'll, after the show.

[979] Go give Cleveland some love.

[980] They need you guys.

[981] Cleveland, too.

[982] Yeah, it's a good town.

[983] I did Cleveland with Charlie Murphy.

[984] Oh, nice.

[985] Where, where venue?

[986] I forget.

[987] It was one of the comedy clubs.

[988] It was, man, I don't remember which one it was.

[989] It might have been the improv.

[990] There's an improv there, right?

[991] Yeah.

[992] No, it was like hilarious or something?

[993] I don't remember.

[994] Sorry.

[995] I did a, it was a tour with Charlie Murphy where we did like 22 cities.

[996] Oh, wow.

[997] Yeah, and like a, it was a month, so it was like constant.

[998] You never knew where you were.

[999] that's crazy yeah i did grog shop oh yeah okay with joey diaz that's awesome what is that it's grog shop that's where me and joey dyes went last month or two months ago oh that's the club you went to yeah is that columbus or cleveland that was in cleveland yeah so you guys went to like a rock club or something like that yeah it was like a i think they do both but yeah i think it's mostly music but it was cool it's a nice little place next setup dude a lot of penises on the walls in grog shop every time we play there and my family's there i'm just kind of like just too many penises in the wall?

[1000] But it's great.

[1001] Yeah, and yeah, it's great.

[1002] It's like it used to be a real grunge kind of punk bar you know, rock and then we get in there and we play our like folk rock, blue music and it's fine.

[1003] You make it work.

[1004] Did you ever run into like a stumbling block where people didn't want to hear that kind of music?

[1005] You ever in a situation where like nobody knows who you are and you want to go and do your stuff and for whatever reason people like heckle or act negatively?

[1006] We've been so lucky, man. And I feel like we've played in all these situations where we're completely different that we've opened for a lot of headliners that we don't sound anything like.

[1007] And no one's ever really put us down.

[1008] No, and I've got this arsenal of comebacks that I'm ready for to be like to throw out at that one guy who's being a dick.

[1009] And I can't use them because everybody's been pretty nice to us.

[1010] You guys are creepy.

[1011] I'm not inviting anyone to be a jerk.

[1012] Please love us.

[1013] You guys are creepy talented.

[1014] You guys are really good.

[1015] You guys are.

[1016] You know, when we went to see you live, I was like, this is like, it's crazy that you can watch someone, like, that close, like singing.

[1017] Like, it's such a different experience when you're in a club.

[1018] I guess it's probably the same as a comic, too.

[1019] Like, when you're in front of, like, a tight group of a few hundred people just jammed into a place, that really is, like, the best scenario, right?

[1020] That's, like, the best kind of show.

[1021] It was so powerful.

[1022] It was like, wow, this is wild.

[1023] I am fascinated by music, because I can't do it at all.

[1024] so I'm like I'm watching you guys do magic you're putting together songs and you're playing instruments to me I'm like you're you're doing magic like I can't do that I can't do anything with it so it's it's amazing it's so fascinating it's it's really I don't know man I appreciate that but I you know just to throw it back it's like we have a set list and we have this like you know rarely do you have to go off book quote unquote like every once in while you get a heckler but we we like people we like to hang you know what's fine it's like you heckle back and then you do your thing but like you know with comedy i feel like when you get you know you also have a sort of set list quote you know so to speak or your material that you have planned um but the off the cuff kind of um stuff and is is kind of terrifying because you can't have a lull in your comedic set like you can when you're tuning your guitar in a in a musical set yeah nobody wants to wait while you get your shit together exactly they don't they don't you have to be so, exactly, it's like, they're, there need to be stimulated, like, you know, almost to the second.

[1025] Yeah, but it's still way easier than what you guys do.

[1026] I don't have to work with anybody else.

[1027] I don't have to.

[1028] I don't have to work with anybody else.

[1029] Oh, there's the Angel Death video.

[1030] I'm pretty sure there's a Joe Rogan and Brian Redband appearance in there.

[1031] It's great.

[1032] It turned out so great.

[1033] Thank you.

[1034] We did, we're so excited.

[1035] And it was also really weird seeing a lot of the, like, the people here.

[1036] Yeah, and then seeing them, because I didn't get to see their scene.

[1037] Oh, that's awesome.

[1038] Yeah, so it was really cool to see, like, these people that I talked to all day.

[1039] Not to be totally graphic, but he said, I'm going to, I'm going to come.

[1040] Doesn't that guy look like Daniel Pinchman?

[1041] He did that on purpose.

[1042] He was like, I'm just going to explode there.

[1043] Good for you, Martin.

[1044] And the pastor dude was really cool.

[1045] I guess he just does a lot.

[1046] Oh, there's Jason Ritter, who was awesome to hang out with him that day.

[1047] He's a sweet dude Why'd you kill him?

[1048] I don't know Because he wasn't He didn't love me enough That was funny when he did the zipper part That was perfect Man He thought he was going to get some And then that's how bitches get killed How rude So you've been getting a lot of road booty I mean do you have a lot of guy fans That are you just get right to the point Brian Brian, how rude.

[1049] Brian, let's talk about your girlfriends, and then I'll talk about my boyfriends.

[1050] No, don't talk about his girlfriend.

[1051] Okay, that's not.

[1052] Yeah, I was going to say, I thought one of them had a tail, like a literal tail.

[1053] No, no, no, no, please, please.

[1054] I'm just kidding.

[1055] I'm sure they're beautiful and lovely and very smart.

[1056] I'm single.

[1057] Are you really?

[1058] Chazam, son.

[1059] That was a message.

[1060] Welcome to the club.

[1061] Well, what are you doing?

[1062] It's called green light.

[1063] Do you want to hang out with Honey, Honey, Honey?

[1064] Yes, I do.

[1065] It's time to rumble.

[1066] Honey, honey, honey, and Jack.

[1067] Ben just excused himself up.

[1068] Pass the bottle and the ice.

[1069] Let's get shit popping.

[1070] Oh, my God.

[1071] How many days, when you guys go on the road, how many days do you go for?

[1072] Like, what's a long?

[1073] Two months, the longest we've ever been out.

[1074] Two months.

[1075] We need a couple of those.

[1076] It's hard, huh?

[1077] Yeah, man. It's been like, for the past a year and a half, we haven't taken more than, like, three, four, maybe we've taken four weeks off at one point, but since then it's just been constant, which has been, I mean, it's amazing, like she said, but it's disorienting too, you know?

[1078] Well, it's so fascinating, because you guys are so talented and, you know, it's, I'm getting to watch, like, this whole emergence of you, like, you know, going on this tour, getting all your shit out on the internet, it's growing, it's, it's fascinating to watch.

[1079] It really is.

[1080] It's It's funny how you can see it.

[1081] You can see numbers build.

[1082] That's the difference between how it used to be.

[1083] Like when Myspace came out, all of a sudden you had these numbers that you were assigned to things.

[1084] Right.

[1085] And like, sure, right?

[1086] And do you guys do it by YouTube?

[1087] It's like your YouTube numbers.

[1088] Is that what it is?

[1089] Is it iTunes?

[1090] Facebook and Twitter.

[1091] Facebook and Twitter.

[1092] You know, the Angel of Death video, we're kind of waiting for this to hit some sort of swing because it really is such a great video.

[1093] But essentially it is Twitter.

[1094] and Facebook, but, you know, we're trying to make as many videos as we can.

[1095] I know my favorite Angel of Death video is still you guys on that roof.

[1096] That's how I found out about you.

[1097] This, this dude on my message board named Balls of Steel.

[1098] Yeah, balls of steel.

[1099] Where is Balls of Steel?

[1100] He's out there somewhere.

[1101] He was super psyched when we were talking about him on the podcast.

[1102] He sent me a message.

[1103] Gosh, that's so funny.

[1104] When you guys were on the roof, that is a fucking, I love that one.

[1105] That's my favorite.

[1106] Just.

[1107] I was like, this is so interesting.

[1108] This guy sent me a message.

[1109] He goes, this is your new favorite band.

[1110] Wow.

[1111] Man, what a guy.

[1112] We're going to find you, balls of steel.

[1113] How Bob Dylan do you look right there, son?

[1114] The Mets hat?

[1115] You look mad Bob Dylan there, kid.

[1116] Oh, my God.

[1117] It's a lot.

[1118] Floating on the wind until I find you.

[1119] Right there, I got hooked.

[1120] Yeah.

[1121] That's it.

[1122] I'm done.

[1123] Oh, man. I remember that, you know, now that we're buddies, you know, the first time, you know, when we found out that you liked our music, we had this weird day where all of a sudden I was like, I didn't really know how to use Twitter.

[1124] And actually, because of y 'all, we kind of really hopped on board to, you know, really work in the Twitter circuit.

[1125] But all of a sudden, our Twitter accounts kind of going crazy.

[1126] And then someone's like, Joe Rogan tweeted at you.

[1127] I was like, really?

[1128] I was like, the guy from X Factor.

[1129] that's awesome and and then I really did my research my research and I I listened to your the podcast that you did and it was so funny because it was like you said the nicest things and it was it was so flattering and you said you know listen to this girl's voice and you're just like talking about these really beautiful things and then you're like Joe Rogan experience sponsored by the fleshlight I was like I was amazing it was so cool because this was our first podcast we've ever done and and since then we've done a couple more which has been really cool um but you're our you're our podcast champion yeah and it's really cool you did duncan's as well too right oh my god duncan's amazing isn't dunkin the shit yeah and he's become one of our friends too and he's a great guy i love the fuck out of that dude him and brian are feuding though oh no i love the fuck out of him too i oh i love the fuck out of both of them separately i have to right now nobody's taking sides Don't get in the middle of them.

[1130] Yeah.

[1131] No split of the rift, please.

[1132] You're either like shitty things or you like that.

[1133] Hey, how dare you?

[1134] How dare you?

[1135] How dare you?

[1136] Apparently, I like both.

[1137] And I don't know who's who.

[1138] Uh -oh.

[1139] Should we have an intervention?

[1140] No. That's a big deal.

[1141] That'll be fine.

[1142] It's really minor detail.

[1143] I'm only reminded of it when Joe brings it up.

[1144] I'm sorry.

[1145] I didn't mean to.

[1146] I just had to because we were talking about how awesome Duncan is.

[1147] I feel like I have to.

[1148] Do you want us to play some dark?

[1149] We can't talk too nice about him because Brian and him are feuding.

[1150] Okay.

[1151] It's sort of metaphysical way.

[1152] They're going to get over it eventually.

[1153] They're feuding on an astroplane?

[1154] They're going to do ecstasy together and then they'll be fun.

[1155] They'll hug it out.

[1156] That's what you should do.

[1157] Do ecstasy and go to church.

[1158] I'll pass on that.

[1159] That's a weird sandwich.

[1160] What did I say?

[1161] I just blacked out.

[1162] I don't even know what just happened.

[1163] It's like whipped cream and hot sauce.

[1164] I don't know if you know want to put those together.

[1165] That sounds like you could get an infection.

[1166] With cream and hot sauce Totally, you would get yeast Man, you shouldn't put You'd get something in your You shouldn't put chocolate up there No, you shouldn't Yeah Is that an experience?

[1167] Just keep it natural No, not myself personally But I have had friends who have done You know, you know, I think I think shit gets really messed up From like beauty magazines Like Cosmo, it's like How to please your man You know, with all this bullshit of like You know, skirting from what just feels right And you know being in a relationship or not are just being, you know, sexually confident.

[1168] But, like, you know, people that bust out the food part and then, you know, rub it on things.

[1169] I got to be careful with that.

[1170] I don't know.

[1171] Oh, like, with sex?

[1172] Like, if some, if I was getting on some dude and he's like, hold on, I'm going to put some whipped cream on your twinkle.

[1173] Whoa.

[1174] I'm just, that sounds, that sounds like really uncomfortable and sticky.

[1175] Just try it.

[1176] And like, it would just cause problems.

[1177] Like, it would just cause problems.

[1178] homes, do what I mean?

[1179] Maybe not, though.

[1180] Maybe it be awesome.

[1181] You know, why not just, you know, give me a massage.

[1182] Better yet, let's just, let's just go to Chick -fil -A and call it a day.

[1183] Wow.

[1184] It's either that or the highway.

[1185] I guess you've made your, you stand your claim, no whipped cream.

[1186] Don't put food on my special place.

[1187] Thank you.

[1188] Unless it's Chick -fil -A?

[1189] Yeah.

[1190] No, no, no, no, Chick -fil -A.

[1191] No food at all.

[1192] She's baked, not fried.

[1193] That's the, that's the abandonment move is go to Chick -fil -A.

[1194] Let's forget the whole thing.

[1195] This is plan B now.

[1196] Maybe I'm just a traditional girl.

[1197] I just like to get down the regular way without food.

[1198] I agree with you.

[1199] No need to bring in Cherries, Mickey Rourke.

[1200] Do you remember that movie?

[1201] No. What was it nine and a half weeks?

[1202] What was the movie with Mickey Rourke and Kim Basing?

[1203] Yeah, nine and a half weeks.

[1204] Is that what it was?

[1205] One of the first movies ever masturbated.

[1206] How gay am I that I know the name of that?

[1207] Pretty gay.

[1208] Pretty gay.

[1209] Yeah, it was like a real sexual movie and they did a lot of like food stuff and there was like some when kim basinger was hot as hot as fuck she was so hot back then it was stupid and you know and when her and mickey well he's like kissing her and there he's feeding her grapes and shit or after he reconstructed his face way before well he you know what happened with him he started boxing that's right I'm my bad I stand corrected well no he did have some like face work done but I think some of it was really beautiful some of it was a little bit Reconstructive stuff He got like he had like real problems apparently I read in some interview with his He'd get like neurological tests like You have to stop boxing Like you're having like brain issues Take some yoga Yeah so he had to stop but I mean The guy went from crazy Went from being a fucking huge movie star To be in a boxer To back to be in a movie star again Like that's a weird trip Was he boxing professionally?

[1210] Yes Fighting real guys He was boxing Real people I mean, they didn't set him up with, like, some of the best guys in the world, but they set him up with some good fighters.

[1211] Like, he fought some boxers.

[1212] That's another backup of Honey Honey doesn't work out.

[1213] It's either the brothel in Nevada or boxing.

[1214] Yeah, people are always like, the guys who fought sucked.

[1215] Like, listen, he's a fucking actor.

[1216] He's a goddamn movie star.

[1217] He fought real people.

[1218] There was a real dude who also wanted a box.

[1219] It's not like he's out there fighting Sugar Ray Leonard or something, okay?

[1220] It's like, what a crazy guy, Mickey Rourke was.

[1221] That's a wild -ass movie.

[1222] He's still alive.

[1223] Did he win any?

[1224] bounce or anything?

[1225] Yeah, yeah, he did well.

[1226] I think he once on me. I don't really remember his record.

[1227] I mean, but I remember watching him box once him, it was a real fight.

[1228] You know, he's really fucking boxing some guy.

[1229] Went from being a movie started being a fucking boxer.

[1230] He's getting punched in the face and shit.

[1231] Whoa, this is legit.

[1232] Oh my God.

[1233] I mean, again, it wasn't fighting the best guys in the world, but he really was fighting.

[1234] Yeah.

[1235] He must have been like a heavyweight.

[1236] Yeah, I met him in one of the UFC's.

[1237] He's probably a pretty big guy.

[1238] He looks like he's in really good shape.

[1239] He got he got really big for that, um, that wrestler movie he did remember that movie what do you guys got in there they're looking for water getting crazy yeah hydration i'm i'm feeling a little warm do you want water i'm good i'm good i'm sticking with my eco vessel what is that it's um well to to sort of reduce on the the plastic pollution right um but it's got a little filter in it and we take i take it on the road with me so basically i could drink river water out of this thing i know i'm wow but um i think we're going to go full circle and it'll come back to deer skins i'm down you i want to get my food with a bow and arrow yeah do you i watch those shows i watch those shows on like the outdoorsman channel they shoot pigs with a bone you know back to deadwood it's like this is that's that's that's where we that's those are our ancestors well it's weird when you said that that went down that that was how everybody had to live just a couple of hundred years ago there's no other options this is what this is the way it was that's it go on kill animals have you ever gone hunting joe No. I'm going soon, though.

[1240] Fisherman?

[1241] Yes.

[1242] Yeah, I used to go fishing a lot.

[1243] Fishing is like the delicate form of going hunting for deer.

[1244] Really?

[1245] Check this out.

[1246] This is kind of fucked up.

[1247] Los Angeles just banned all marijuana dispensaries.

[1248] Really?

[1249] Holy shit.

[1250] Is that true?

[1251] They just posted this.

[1252] How is that?

[1253] Wait, where are you reading that?

[1254] Whoa.

[1255] It says the Los Angeles City Council has just voted to ban all medical marijuana dispensaries.

[1256] Whoa.

[1257] Council member Paul Cortez was the only person to vote against the ban.

[1258] Exemptions will allow patients to continue growing marijuana for their own use, and primary caregivers may continue to distribute the drug.

[1259] So don't worry about the cancer patients.

[1260] They'll be fine as soon as physicians find a dealer.

[1261] So this is just within the city of Los Angeles?

[1262] I'm not 100 % sure right now.

[1263] but that's kind of kind of fucked that's pretty crazy i wonder if like like the the the people that's like la speedweed that aren't a dispensary but they can deliver it yeah but it's it's pointless like why why why why why is this happening you know it's like what it's giving the logic show me the numbers show me where somebody's getting hurt why are any resources being spent in this way it's just so silly well i wonder if um that's so crazy is there much regular government regulation on the dispensaries because you know as far as like taxation purposes like isn't i mean california's broke so they could certainly use the money perhaps they want to come back with their own spin on things that's i don't think that's what's going on i think uh it's it's one business pushing out another business there's no there's no logical reason for them to be trying to go after these people doesn't make any sense it's not like you're trying to protect society excuse me protect society for marijuana i mean there's no there's no science or numbers to back that up.

[1264] It doesn't make any sense, especially why you're selling liquor at a liquor store and drugs at CVS.

[1265] It's like to say that you're going to spend any resources to stop marijuana at all those.

[1266] It's crazy.

[1267] It's like, I don't care if that's been there already.

[1268] You're showing me something that exists right now in a liquor store.

[1269] That's far more dangerous than some marijuana.

[1270] And you're saying, that's okay.

[1271] Damn it.

[1272] Fuck yeah, it is.

[1273] More dangerous for your body, more destructive, more dangerous for social behavior, more dangerous for driving, more dangerous for almost, buzzed right now don't ruin this for me it's great though I like I'd like booze but it's just we it's nonsense that we would allow them to use any resources to stop pot doesn't make any sense there's no reason why you would go after that when you haven't fixed all the streets you haven't solved all the murders you haven't you know stopped all the crimes you why are you wasting any resources on this silly issue this is dumb we just got interests they have money Chazam, boom Tennessee Honey Oh my goodness What is that?

[1274] What did you just put down?

[1275] Is that Jack Daniels?

[1276] I should probably eat some chips or something Jack Daniel's honey I think we have chips here But that'll sound awesome on the microphone Great This is how we make friends on the internet Whoa, what's you Oh damn What is that?

[1277] Is it a burrito?

[1278] No, it's just rice and beans You golden dog Do you want to eat that and then sing Or you want to sing and then eat first I should probably say otherwise I was just thinking you'll be spraying all over this motherfucker what a lady um I'm supposed to have dinner with my parents actually my parents are in town they came out to see us for Cheryl Crowe which is really really cool yeah they're they're fun so you've been living this crazy little dream life now does it feel like it um it's uh it's interesting you know like right now I'm like I'm really tired you're really working hard like you're constantly touring constantly performing I'm at that point where I'm just like, fuck.

[1279] Like, I just want a little bit of slack, something.

[1280] Right.

[1281] And I think we're close.

[1282] You know, I think this Kickstarter thing is going to help us a lot.

[1283] And Cheryl Crowe's been amazing.

[1284] And actually, Ben and I need to finish writing our third record.

[1285] And we're going to actually spend some time in Nashville, which is a very reasonable, reasonably priced place to live.

[1286] I've been drinking.

[1287] A little bit.

[1288] Yeah, a little bit.

[1289] But it's a nice area.

[1290] Nashville's beautiful.

[1291] It's great.

[1292] You know what it has?

[1293] it has all this space.

[1294] And now I've got Louise, the dog.

[1295] Ralphie Mae lives in Nashville.

[1296] Do you know Ralphie, comedian?

[1297] I don't.

[1298] He shares a, he's got a house there and a house here, I think.

[1299] Oh, cool.

[1300] We should talk to him.

[1301] We're doing some shows there and stuff like that.

[1302] But, you know, everything's been great.

[1303] At the end of the day, I'll be honest with you, you know, because all these, like, uncomfortable places we're in, because to speak candidly, Ben and I are without places of our own to live.

[1304] So we, like, crash with friends, and that gets hard after a while because you just feel like an asshole.

[1305] all the time.

[1306] I'm sure, but it's so old school rock and roll.

[1307] Well, yes and no, but, you know, I am...

[1308] Oh, yes.

[1309] You need that chapter in the movie.

[1310] You're right.

[1311] You're absolutely right.

[1312] And I do have appreciation for it.

[1313] And I feel really good, you know, even when I'm tired and all that stuff.

[1314] But the coolest part is that I feel really good about the tunes or writing and just the shows we've been playing because there is this, like, element of like, that's like the place where I am the happiest.

[1315] Do you know what I mean, like to be right now?

[1316] The happiest is when you're creative?

[1317] Well, yeah, or when we're playing, you know, when we're on the stage, because it's like, it's this great experience, and there's a lot of things happening up there that, like, make it, it's like, oh, yeah, that's why we're sleeping on couches.

[1318] It's amazing that you, it's really good, you know.

[1319] Your life narrowed down to such a focus, you know what I mean?

[1320] Right.

[1321] Because everything is going into this, these, like, this 45 minutes every day on stage.

[1322] We're out for two months, for 45 minutes, you know, like, five times a week.

[1323] So it becomes this like focal point of everything, which is like, I don't know, that's an exciting feeling, I guess.

[1324] Oh, yeah.

[1325] Yeah, I share it with stand -up comedy.

[1326] It's a very similar sort of an intense moment that you prepare for all the time.

[1327] Yeah.

[1328] You know, yeah, it's a weird thing performing, you know.

[1329] I've always just tried to describe it, like, to step outside of civilization and look at what's really going on.

[1330] What is really going on when you're performing?

[1331] well it's some weird energy exchange it's like you're you're giving them these things that you thought up this creativity that you've worked on and honed and you're showing them this and it's entertaining and they feel good they feel good when they listen to your song they feel good when you play a great song and you hit a note literally the person's body feels different yeah and that's what happens when you do comedy as well when you when someone's on stage and they're killing and i'm watching them holding my sides laughing my body feels different my body's like tingling with laughter like if joey ds you guys still don't even don't even know joey dyes you got to meet joey dyes i know the name i know you guys it's funny as human being i've ever met my life but he'll just he'll be in the role he'll just break things down for you cock sucker and he'll just tell you he's just crazy old Cuban dude he's the baddest motherfucker ever but he makes me laugh so hard that my body feels different you know what that's great ah like your body's like tingling with hilarity you know that's that's a that's a that's a that's why we're so addicted to it.

[1332] We're so addicted to this weird energy exchange, you know?

[1333] You know, I really want to talk about this thing that happened for our first Cheryl Crow show, you know, in relation to what you're saying.

[1334] And like, um, we played in this theater in Santa Rosa, California, and it, it was sold out.

[1335] There was like, about 1 ,500 people and it was indoors.

[1336] Um, and a lot of times when you play theaters, you know, everybody sits for the opening band.

[1337] So there's, it's, it's kind of an awkward, like, you feel like, oh fuck, like nobody's getting up when there's like a more sort of upbeat song and you're just like it's quiet you could hear a pin drop which is good but it's like totally nerve -wracking but we had this really great show and at the end of the show you know everybody and this was the second time this has happened and we've been a band for a long time and the second time we felt this way in a theater and it was sort of somebody else's show you know we're the opening band it's not our show they're there to see Cheryl Crow And we're fortunately, you know, fortunate enough to be there to get some attention.

[1338] And we had this incredible standing ovation, and they put the lights on the people, and you could see just this, all these people, like, and they were glowing.

[1339] And it just like, it was like this, like, it was like a wave crashing over you, but like a good wave of just like people being like, yeah, all right, we like you, we accept you.

[1340] And it was so intense.

[1341] Like, my eyes were kind of crying.

[1342] I was so embarrassed because I didn't want to look like an idiot, but it was so, like, physically my body was, like, accepting all this warmth from all these strangers.

[1343] And it was, it was amazing.

[1344] It was so great.

[1345] Yeah, it's a trippy feeling.

[1346] It really is.

[1347] A similar thing happened at Coachella, I felt like.

[1348] People are so excited to be there at Coachella.

[1349] It's this crazy experience.

[1350] And you're in this place in the middle of the desert, and everyone's just so pumped up to see whatever happens.

[1351] And the first moment in our set where, like, a big beat dropped.

[1352] Like, and maybe the second song, which is, there was this, like, eruption from the crowd.

[1353] And everyone just gave you this huge burst of energy.

[1354] And I felt myself, you know, you have to, like, start learning.

[1355] You get goosebumps.

[1356] It's for real.

[1357] It's the weirdest thing.

[1358] Yeah.

[1359] You know, when I was a kid, I remember I would listen to, like, Kiss Live.

[1360] And when you listen to a live album, it was always, like, a little off.

[1361] They were, like, a little faster.

[1362] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1363] Like, the song was, like, a little faster.

[1364] It's like, not always, but sometimes.

[1365] And I was like, I wonder what that is.

[1366] Why it sounds different?

[1367] Well, it's because they're fucking jazzed up with adrenaline.

[1368] Yeah, totally.

[1369] I mean, what must have it like to be Kiss?

[1370] You know?

[1371] Could you imagine just standing on stage being ace freely in 1975?

[1372] Yeah, firewalls are going off and your guitars explode.

[1373] The fucking place is going shithouse.

[1374] There's 20 ,000 people screaming at the top of their lungs.

[1375] Faces are painted.

[1376] Yeah, I mean.

[1377] We should start painting her face.

[1378] I was a kid during the first big wave of kiss.

[1379] and I couldn't imagine what it would be like to play music like that in front of that many people Of course you'd be playing it fast You'd be your first You know There was a fanatical following The Kiss Army I still have a Kiss Army T -shirt It's a weird thing playing for a large volume of people What's the most you guys have played for?

[1380] 10 ,000 people Woo It was we were in Chicago This is a duo too As a duo It was just the two of us And actually at one point within our set The power went out in the middle of a song and it's like that would be like oh god I just peed myself on stage and everyone can see it well then you just got to accept that no it's way better to do that than to pee yourself on stage you're totally right you're totally right you're yourself on stage it's like dude you're fucking you're on your own now nobody wants to hear anything you have to say now no one's going to take anything you say seriously you just pissed your pants dude and it's so rude really because we've all pissed our pants it definitely knocks the wind out of you you know to be in front of all those people but But anyway, not to get, you know, off of the stage pants peeing thing because that's fun.

[1381] But, yeah, that was the most we'd ever played for.

[1382] 10 ,000 people.

[1383] Holy shit, that's a lot of people.

[1384] And that was for Sherriot, opening for Cheryl Crow.

[1385] This was this thing called the Chicago Folk Routes Festival.

[1386] This was just this festival we played a couple summers ago.

[1387] And there's just this huge field.

[1388] And we get up there, just the two of us kind of thing down.

[1389] That's beautiful, man. Yeah.

[1390] How cool is that?

[1391] That must be such a trip.

[1392] What does that feel like?

[1393] Well, when you get the energy back, when there's this surge of energy, I'm telling you, it's just like, I felt it all through my body.

[1394] And I had to, like, slow down, literally within the song from just like, blu -l -loop.

[1395] You know what, though, with that energy, it's like you have this incredible experience.

[1396] When you're, you know, you're in point A and the audience is in point B. And then you kind of have to, like, you have to leave it there once you leave the stage.

[1397] Because if you take all that energy with you, like, that's how you want to go, like, stick a needle in your arms sometimes or, like, do something crazy.

[1398] Like, I feel like, I feel like that energy is, is not mine.

[1399] Oh, wow.

[1400] You know what I mean?

[1401] Like, I have to leave it on the stage.

[1402] I, I really appreciate it when I'm there, but, but I had this, I had a real moment of, of revelation from one of our first or second tours, I, it's kind of getting a little crazy, but I met, like, I had like my, my palm red.

[1403] and this like this woman told me that she's like you you need to you need to protect yourself and when you leave the stage you need to leave the stage and then have yourself as a separate entity because otherwise it'll like swallow you up and I believe that to be true I think that if I were to take all the attention that I got on the stage as a personal definition yeah I think that's that's that's that's troublesome for my person because I you know I'm there if I if I just live live my life like I do my job and I have you know my musical abilities and gifts and that's that's one thing and then that's my job and then my passion and then these other parts of myself like my family my friends and my dog my new dog you know I know what you're saying like look you have to just compartmentalize it's very wise to try to separate yourself and hence your ego yeah because it's dangerous it's very dangerous it's you can become self -indulgent and that's what everyone's terrified of everyone's terrified of becoming that really really ridiculous like overbearing star singer person you know what I mean like someone is just completely out of control a diva someone's screaming and yelling at people someone's nuts doesn't appreciate like every every minute of the ride you realize how fortunate they are I mean that's that's what something any artist is terrified of becoming that person a disillusioned disconnected person that's the worst thing you can be you know you cannot be creative I think people in that position have it's not out of maliciousness it's out of a lack of awareness.

[1404] You know, maybe you just lose in touch.

[1405] It's been really great to see Cheryl Crowe because she is truly an amazing woman and is humbled and so successful yet so grounded.

[1406] And she's got her kids with her on the road and this, like this incredible crew around her of people that they've been helping us, which is, you know, sometimes as the opening band, you're the freshman.

[1407] So no one's going to like help the freshman.

[1408] Cheryl Crow is a badass bitch.

[1409] But that's a great example.

[1410] You know what I mean?

[1411] It's like of.

[1412] And I say, bitch with all due respect.

[1413] Yeah.

[1414] It's totally respectful.

[1415] But it is, it is, as you said, you know, your ego can just be like this atom bomb and such a great thing.

[1416] And you don't want that.

[1417] But the people who are creative, that's how they avoid that.

[1418] I really firmly believe that when you get really crazy like that, it hinders you creativity.

[1419] It's like you're not going to have anything else to say.

[1420] You're not going to have any other places to go to because you're in like some weird sort of a psychic prison.

[1421] I know you trapped yourself in this weird world of not looking at things realistically.

[1422] or idealistically.

[1423] You've trapped yourself in this world of negative.

[1424] You know, and you're cunty.

[1425] And the universe doesn't like cunts.

[1426] You love that word.

[1427] It's a beautiful word.

[1428] Man, I'm so glad we didn't make a drinking game out of it because I'd be even more drunk than I already am.

[1429] You're thinking about it?

[1430] I'm pretty hamstered right now.

[1431] It's a beautiful word.

[1432] You know, I got this writing program that I use on my computer and it won't learn cunt.

[1433] It won't learn it.

[1434] You can make up a word.

[1435] You can learn everything else.

[1436] It'll learn shit.

[1437] You have to auto -correct everything.

[1438] You learn fuck.

[1439] And it gets to cunt.

[1440] and you go for the right click and it's like nope it really won't even let you won't even let you fucking I'm like you little bitch but it'll let you add Conti Jesus this pot this pot thing is freaking me out 764 tax stream revenue streams are just being cut here's the news if you want to look at what happens here's the I don't pee after you that sounds gross look at a stuff that would make medical marijuana dispensaries like some dog shit going on there Welcome back.

[1441] While medical marijuana is legal in California, but some say the dispensaries bring crime and a nuisance to their neighborhoods.

[1442] Let's go live to Doug Colk in downtown L .A. We're boisterous opponents and supporters of the band.

[1443] These three robot people.

[1444] The robot ladies, go to the robot guy.

[1445] Well, Lou and Jessica, as you know, it's a very heated topic, and it doesn't look like a decision may come down anytime soon.

[1446] City Council right now behind closed doors in a closed session, discussing the legality surrounding the possibility of closing hundreds of medical marijuana facilities around Los Angeles.

[1447] We are out of control with it at this point.

[1448] We need to come up with something that's going to work, something the police department can live with, the community can live with, because we get continuing complaints.

[1449] If only it were that easy.

[1450] City Council set to vote Tuesday on whether to make L .A. pot dispensaries illegal.

[1451] Before members make that decision, they hear public comment from both sides.

[1452] Those who depend on medicinal marijuana for health reasons.

[1453] Is that tool, sir?

[1454] Those who feel pot dispensaries are getting out of control.

[1455] It's even LAPD's stance.

[1456] Pot clinics attract crime.

[1457] Counsel trying to find a solution for both sides.

[1458] The crime is pot.

[1459] Whether that means tighter enforcement, limiting the number of dispensaries, or allowing a certain amount of caregivers to grow marijuana under their own conditions.

[1460] Whatever decision is made today, it won't be made without heavy debate.

[1461] I believe in the medicinal value of marijuana.

[1462] What we want to do is ban dispensaries that are not allowed.

[1463] under state law.

[1464] I have friends that are still alive today because of medical marijuana, and that's why this is so important to me. Okay, let's keep it down.

[1465] Keep your applause down.

[1466] Now, before they went into that closed session, I had the chance to speak with District 5 member Paul Corets, and he tells me he has no clue when a decision will come down today, if in fact a decision does come down today.

[1467] He also tells me he has no clue which way it's going to go.

[1468] As a matter of fact, he's been telling me it could end in a seven -seven vote in which then they'll have to figure out what's going to happen.

[1469] Reporting live from City Hall, Doug Colk, KTLA 5 News.

[1470] Well, unfortunately, it did happen.

[1471] 14 -0 ban.

[1472] Wow.

[1473] So it really sucks because I don't know if, I wonder if you'll be able to still deliver it.

[1474] Because if you can get it delivered, that would be different.

[1475] If they just want to close it down to have stores because of neighborhoods and crime, that's one thing.

[1476] But if you could have it delivered like pizza, because that's still, I believe, legal.

[1477] So it would just ban a storefront?

[1478] Yeah, the storefront.

[1479] So I believe, like, you know, we're friends with this company called L .A. Speedweed, which it's a delivery service.

[1480] It's, I think, the L .A.'s largest one.

[1481] And I wonder now that's the next thing.

[1482] Like, you're going to see these delivery, like, piece of delivery trucks going down the street everywhere.

[1483] Making more traffic.

[1484] Stoner traffic.

[1485] It's kind of like what New York is like, isn't it?

[1486] Yeah, it seems much more delivery.

[1487] Yeah, delivery -based.

[1488] Because they don't have the dispensaries there, I don't think.

[1489] Do they?

[1490] They don't.

[1491] They don't.

[1492] I think, so I wonder, well, if it's just L .A. County, like, that means, I wonder if that means if the valley, like, you know, like.

[1493] These people aren't even potheads, Brian.

[1494] They don't care.

[1495] Look at the both of them.

[1496] They don't care.

[1497] No, I'm thinking about it.

[1498] You wouldn't even panic.

[1499] No way.

[1500] If someone said no more whiskey for you, I'd have.

[1501] I'd be like, all over my dead body.

[1502] But that's not what they're saying.

[1503] They're saying no more pot.

[1504] You're like, I'm cool with that.

[1505] No way.

[1506] You're like, I already went down a dark road once accidentally.

[1507] I'd haul us down to Jack Daniels distillery and stuck up for the rest of eternity.

[1508] I don't know what I do without pot, especially for writing.

[1509] I really don't know what I do.

[1510] You'd be real productive?

[1511] My favorite shit.

[1512] Smoking weave.

[1513] Yeah, I'm super productive.

[1514] See, it's funny.

[1515] Everything affects, you know, everybody differently.

[1516] I become a robot when I am high.

[1517] I bet you're getting the wrong shit I you know I don't know I've tried all the different things I the best I think you know vessel has been a spliff for me because it's just a little bit and I like tobacco I like cigarettes so you know you can smoke a cigarette if you want I'm good actually I haven't smoked in a couple weeks because when I'm touring I try to fucking keep it low do you worry about that with your voice yeah yeah absolutely so I don't smoke like I used to but I when I do like I really fucking enjoy a cigarette But I don't smoke all the time.

[1518] That's an internet meme right there.

[1519] What you just just said is going to be an internet meme.

[1520] It's going to be a photo of you saying, I don't smoke.

[1521] But if I do, it's going to be a cigarette.

[1522] No, no, no, no, is that what I said?

[1523] Oh, what a weiner.

[1524] Oh, great.

[1525] No, it's hilarious.

[1526] I know what you're saying.

[1527] I know what you're saying.

[1528] You rarely smoke a cigarette.

[1529] No, but like I'll really enjoy it when I do.

[1530] And it's like, you know, because I'm a singer.

[1531] That's stupid.

[1532] Right.

[1533] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[1534] I mean, you have that crazy gift.

[1535] Well, thank you.

[1536] But I really is a gift.

[1537] I mean, I, you know, I used to smoke a lot, and then I became aware of how much of a hazard that was to my career.

[1538] It's amazing how much pleasure you can produce by making noise with your mouth.

[1539] Think about that.

[1540] That's really incredible.

[1541] That's what your career is.

[1542] Not really, man. My noise is where my mouth is just to get the thoughts out.

[1543] Yeah, but that's just to get the thoughts out.

[1544] Have you ever taken speech therapy?

[1545] No, no, no. But you, when you do it, it's totally different.

[1546] Because when you're singing, it's a completely different experience.

[1547] The actual harmony of the words of the sound you're making with your mouth.

[1548] Well, I don't harmonize with myself.

[1549] Whatever the fuck it is.

[1550] The harmony of it?

[1551] Am I saying the right thing?

[1552] No, maybe the tone.

[1553] Whatever it is, the whole awesomeness of it.

[1554] Okay.

[1555] You're creating it with your mouth.

[1556] You're creating it with your mouth.

[1557] That's amazing.

[1558] You know, like when the part of that video that I loved when you guys were on the roof, it was like just the first verse, like when the first verse, few words out of your mouth he go whoa that's a crazy noise she can make with her mouth it sounds badass you know because it's like i have a weird laugh but it's it's it's whatever it is it's it's it's the sound of it and then it's more than that it's the idea expressed in the words and then even crazier your energy and interpretation it could be whatever fucking pent -up shit you have it doesn't even have to have anything to do with the lyrics but it goes through those lyrics and comes out in the song and when someone sings with like real emotion and real passion it's like a creepy feeling it's like you almost feel like you shouldn't be allowed to be watching this it's like they really you really like especially you two guys on that rooftop because or wherever the fuck you were because there was a rooftop it was a rooftop but because there was no one else it wasn't like it was a crowd it wasn't like there was you know synthesizers or any you know what I'm saying it's just you guys on the rooftop you're so goddamn sweet Joe I'm not I'm just being honest i know but it's really nice and we appreciate it well listen you guys are the shit place of music do you want to hear some i was gonna say you want to hear some new tunes can i request something oh shit uh i hope so can i hope so can i can't do it give us a sec yeah okay you're gonna have can we start off with something else to warm up yeah yeah yeah sure sure sure sure i just love that song oh that's so funny yeah i should have how rude i can do it we can do it i forget i'm an idiot like i told you i don't know anything about music i mean you have to actually have the right stuff.

[1559] I'm like, make the noise that make that song sounds so good.

[1560] You're making me happy.

[1561] Come on, make that noise with your mouth.

[1562] Do we need to tune anything?

[1563] Like, with mechanical devices?

[1564] How do you know when you're on, when you're tuning it?

[1565] You just know by you're hearing it?

[1566] We use machines.

[1567] We use machines to tune things.

[1568] Was it old school?

[1569] Is it this guy?

[1570] In the old school way, was it, was it?

[1571] I think they started using like electronic tuners Yeah maybe the 80s Oh really?

[1572] Yeah and it changed things a lot man Because all of a sudden you have this precision That you didn't have before Which is good and also I mean it's like kind of Analog to Digital Who's your favorite guitarist ever?

[1573] This guy named Django Reinhardt Oh you're one of those obscure indie dudes I see what you're doing there You gotta check it up also Jimmy Hendrix Yeah I love you That's why I named this to Jorogan experience I totally jacked Jim really That's awesome I have no less than 15 Jimmy Hendricks t -shirts.

[1574] Whoa, that's fucking random.

[1575] Yeah, absolutely.

[1576] Brian Bombay one.

[1577] Do you know a guy named Gary Clark Jr.?

[1578] Gary Clark Jr. Yeah, why do I know that name?

[1579] Yeah, he's a musician in New York.

[1580] Austin.

[1581] Austin.

[1582] You got to check him.

[1583] Oh, dear.

[1584] Yeah, is he.

[1585] Is he black gentleman?

[1586] He is.

[1587] Yes.

[1588] And he says like this bluesy rock.

[1589] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1590] Yeah, somebody recommended him, ironically enough.

[1591] I don't think it's ironically.

[1592] But he recommended...

[1593] Sorry, please.

[1594] please, recommended him on a thread about you guys, which is even more fascinating.

[1595] In my message board, so many...

[1596] I think they brought it up last time they were on the party.

[1597] Is that what it was?

[1598] Did you?

[1599] Oh, really?

[1600] Is that what it was?

[1601] We got a huge boner for Gary Clark.

[1602] Brian, that's why Brian's here.

[1603] God damn it, he's on point.

[1604] This motherfucker.

[1605] So he's...

[1606] What is his CD or his record or release or whatever you would call it nowadays?

[1607] Digital release.

[1608] He just had an EP as far as I know.

[1609] Is that what you call them?

[1610] What do you call them?

[1611] What do you call them?

[1612] say, hey, we put out a new EP.

[1613] Well, that was like a five -song.

[1614] It was a five -song record.

[1615] Right.

[1616] Record.

[1617] You still say record, right?

[1618] You still say record, right?

[1619] No, no fucking excuses.

[1620] I can hit record.

[1621] Hello, we're honey, honey, and I'm from Cleveland.

[1622] I hope they can keep that whole English accent thing going.

[1623] I hope the world in this age of information and distribution of information doesn't homogenize.

[1624] I hope they don't become Americanized.

[1625] We might send them too many movies.

[1626] and break their will.

[1627] They're all going to have age.

[1628] They're just going to realize, but it's a better way to talk.

[1629] The Americans have a better way to talk.

[1630] Let's be honest.

[1631] I'm fucking, mate.

[1632] Just join them.

[1633] We'll just lead with the ego, you know.

[1634] Lead with ego.

[1635] We're America and we're not cunts.

[1636] That's my new logo for when I run in 2016.

[1637] It's, we're America and we're not cunts.

[1638] That's our philosophy.

[1639] So anything that we do as Americans that would make us look like cunts, we automatically can't do because we've said we're not cunct.

[1640] Because we won't be.

[1641] So, no, you can't be starting any wars if you're, you know, if you're not a cunt.

[1642] You know?

[1643] You can't be robbing anybody.

[1644] We can't make T -shirts out of this.

[1645] Yeah.

[1646] Can't be spying on your citizens unless you're a cunt.

[1647] So, you know, that's it should be.

[1648] We're America and we're not cunt.

[1649] I like that.

[1650] 2016.

[1651] That's going to make it work.

[1652] Brian's my vice president.

[1653] Assassination proof.

[1654] That's right.

[1655] Nobody wants to kill me, let Brian be.

[1656] president.

[1657] Oh, dear.

[1658] Get your helmets on.

[1659] Brian would turn the White House into a motherfucking strip club.

[1660] Imagine if you could, like, make Molly legal.

[1661] Like, if you became the vice president.

[1662] If we can't even make weed legal?

[1663] And you're just like, everybody just I'm really bummed out.

[1664] In Los Angeles, too, I can't believe that happened.

[1665] So is this a happy song?

[1666] You should be.

[1667] You should make us all of stuff.

[1668] Not really.

[1669] You know, Brian, you're right.

[1670] You should be bummed out.

[1671] It's really disgusting.

[1672] It's disgusting.

[1673] I mean, it's just, it's nonsense.

[1674] It's a new one.

[1675] What do we need to hear?

[1676] It's not, well, sort of half been recorded, but this is called Numbet.

[1677] Numbet.

[1678] Okay.

[1679] You gotta show me a good side.

[1680] Your shirt deep in your eyes when you always cut me down to side.

[1681] Awesome.

[1682] I'm just tweeting.

[1683] Thanks, man. I just broke a string.

[1684] That might be the only one we could play.

[1685] No, no, I guess some.

[1686] Oh, Daddy's got some more string.

[1687] Oh, my God.

[1688] I got to tweet this.

[1689] That was amazing.

[1690] You guys like it?

[1691] Yeah.

[1692] That's fun.

[1693] All right, thanks.

[1694] That's one of the new ones.

[1695] So you got to test the water.

[1696] That's very great.

[1697] You guys are so fucking talented.

[1698] It's stupid.

[1699] Oh, you stop that.

[1700] You guys are really fucking good.

[1701] It's kind of creepy.

[1702] It's kind of creeping me out, man. I'm not sure I like it.

[1703] How did that song come about?

[1704] I'm waiting for a song that you guys have that sucks.

[1705] What is the name of that song again?

[1706] It's called Numbet.

[1707] Numbet.

[1708] How did that?

[1709] come about um i came about from um let's see um probably something to do about dick yeah or or just you know being in a in a in a tough place and you just don't want to you just want if i can look the other way you like that whiskey young lady don't you i do how dare you come on what's wrong with that nothing nothing at all it's a it's a gift to to the universe just like your your beloved devil's lettuce also Oh, I like the whiskey, too.

[1710] I think I'm already become an alcoholic now that I can't go to the store.

[1711] We should all just start drinking more.

[1712] Yeah, well, that's what they want.

[1713] Just make sure you take your spaceships home.

[1714] Yeah, the whole thing is just so fucking stupid that they're trying to suppress it in any way, shape, or form.

[1715] That's not to serve or protect.

[1716] Cut the shit.

[1717] Stupid.

[1718] It's dumb.

[1719] You're making no sense.

[1720] Leave us alone.

[1721] So is that official?

[1722] I mean, I was paying attention.

[1723] There's too many laws.

[1724] Too many laws.

[1725] You don't need to have that many.

[1726] 700 plus dispensaries all at order to shut down immediately.

[1727] So fucking stupid.

[1728] And some of these places, these are like mom and pop places.

[1729] Like, I know there's one place, and it's just like...

[1730] That's how they make their living.

[1731] Like, how the hell?

[1732] They should be breaking the law.

[1733] We're getting suppressed, ladies and gentlemen.

[1734] The streets are going to be on fire, it seems like.

[1735] People are going to, you know what?

[1736] Streets will be filled with smoke, maybe.

[1737] Black and sex and beanbag, bro.

[1738] Boo.

[1739] I don't know what I meant.

[1740] How do you know what I was saying?

[1741] How often do you guys, I wanted to ask you earlier, how often do you guys sit down together and try to write?

[1742] Like it seems like you're so hectic, you're constantly going from town to town.

[1743] You know, lately it's been, we probably have written once in the past week, but, you know, after the Cheryl Crow dates, we're going to be on a schedule.

[1744] We're writing every day just to get the next record out, so.

[1745] Yeah, it's super hard for me if I'm on the road just for like a weekend.

[1746] I couldn't imagine doing it for like five and six, nine constantly going from town.

[1747] town and then trying to squeeze in some writing it's got to be really hard to put yourself in the play i mean i don't know how you guys write how do you do you um do you have like uh an idea first or do you jam do you how do you guys write everything we don't really have like a sorry i'm chewing on ice cubes oh it's very cold like part of an idea someone comes in with part of the song and then if that so like um part is good enough you know for the other person to be excited then we just try to finish it so um you know like you'll like be driving in your car or something You'll just have an idea and you write it down, put it in your iPhone or something, and then you guys get together.

[1748] Every once in a while, you'll get this, like, lightning of a, you'll write a whole song in a day and it'll just be like this, you know, waterfall of words.

[1749] And you're like, fuck, yeah.

[1750] And then sometimes you really got to chip away at songs.

[1751] And some of our better songs, I feel like we've really been, we've chipped away out.

[1752] And they've started as one thing and then it's been this completely different, you know, product by the end, you know, that, like, The best part, I mean, not the best part, but I just, I guess you just have to, like, let it be what it is.

[1753] And we try to be diligent about it to write consistently, like, even if it sucks, it's like, let's just do it.

[1754] You know, you have to exercise this muscle.

[1755] But, you know, the more you do that, the more you kind of get to that place you want to be at.

[1756] And writing with Ben, we've been writing partners for years now.

[1757] Do you ever have any other writers?

[1758] Is anybody else write with you?

[1759] We have.

[1760] We have.

[1761] But it's so different.

[1762] It's like he and I have the shorthand.

[1763] Is most of your stuff written by you too?

[1764] Yes.

[1765] it's a very interesting collaborative process because you know you're both very unique and yet you're both you know very good and you've got to figure out how to do it together in like this weird sort of a spiral that works your ideas and his ideas and that's fascinating to me because like a lot of people they don't do it that way right like one guy will be the one who writes it or the girl write it and the guy will make the music or something yeah you guys do it all together that's badass yeah that's a cool relationship you guys are like almost like brothers and sisters like tied together for life you know brothers and sisters on earth in music.

[1766] We're a, we're, um...

[1767] Siamese twins by the finger now?

[1768] Yep.

[1769] Something crazy.

[1770] Says John Hodgman.

[1771] It's a fascinating relationship, you know, and it works so well.

[1772] Your music is such, it's got, you know, all the songs are different, but you know when a song's coming from someone, you know?

[1773] Like there's certain, like, certain bands you just knew when you heard, like, a specific...

[1774] You okay, Brian?

[1775] What was it?

[1776] My phone.

[1777] It's amazing what a beating an iPhone can take, isn't it?

[1778] It's amazing.

[1779] They're like tankers.

[1780] Yeah, my iPhone's like Tank Abbott in the early days.

[1781] My iPhone would take a fucking beating, man. You guys want to play something else?

[1782] Sure.

[1783] Can you play L .A. River?

[1784] Yes.

[1785] Yeah, yeah.

[1786] Okay, wait.

[1787] If I mess it up, don't get mad at me. Oh, how dare you?

[1788] You're not going to mess this up.

[1789] I've had probably half a bottle of Jameson's.

[1790] How dare you?

[1791] There we go.

[1792] That's great.

[1793] Lead with a handicap.

[1794] Are you guys too drunk for the internet?

[1795] Is there such thing?

[1796] Nobody's watching, right?

[1797] No, only a couple people.

[1798] There's a couple people.

[1799] Don't worry about it.

[1800] Listen, I love you so much.

[1801] Man. You're like a sister to be a man?

[1802] Or are you?

[1803] The banks of the...

[1804] Had to hop a chain link fed. Concrete on the cement to the big city sound.

[1805] Town.

[1806] Chinatown, I saw a body in the big city sound, through the big city side, the trains past Chinatown.

[1807] That was a beautiful song.

[1808] That was a beautiful song.

[1809] I love that song.

[1810] It's so creepy, too.

[1811] You know, you got skinned knees, you're looking for bodies, the water's black.

[1812] There's a lot of creepy shit, you're jumping fences.

[1813] It's kind of creepy.

[1814] It was on this.

[1815] So is Los Angeles.

[1816] Fuck yeah, it is, but it's cool, you know.

[1817] I love the, I love new.

[1818] new my new home part it was on this tv show really yeah it's called brothers and sisters is on this oh my god there's like this wedding scene there's a wedding scene and then this beautiful romance these people holding hands and then he goes like I thought it saw a body in the weeds coming up they're like they weren't listening to me maybe they were trying to be ironic maybe they were like fake hipsters it didn't really understand it so they were trying to use your music in a fucking nefarious way yeah yeah that's what it was I fucking love that word nefarious sweet it's almost as good as a foot.

[1819] A foot like there is trouble.

[1820] Especially if you can use it in there, there may be some fuckery a foot.

[1821] Fuckery, also a good word.

[1822] Fuckery is as good as a good.

[1823] Dicketry.

[1824] I got, I stopped using that one and it was restarted by my friend Steve Maxwell when he was talking about like fake martial arts guys.

[1825] He's like, there's a lot of fuckery involved.

[1826] I love this guy.

[1827] That's it.

[1828] The word, I fucking lost it for a long time.

[1829] Now it's back.

[1830] And you combine it with a foot.

[1831] You know, it's something you could bring up almost every day.

[1832] something's wrong.

[1833] I believe there's some fuckery of foot.

[1834] I like that.

[1835] I like that a lot.

[1836] The whole thing better.

[1837] How do we move you guys to the next level of show business, stardom, whatever it is, to get your shit out there?

[1838] So you don't have all these financial issues because this shit is annoying me. It's annoying me that you guys can be this good and have any money problems.

[1839] If we reach our Kickstarter goal, that'll help a lot because it'll get us through this next tour.

[1840] We're going out in October.

[1841] So let's be totally clear We're not just asking for money to like sit here and play songs We have a tour in October with a band called Trampled by Turtles And they're incredible They're this They're a bluegrass band from Duluth, Minnesota And in order for us to go out with them We need help We need financial assistance because we're like we're at zero Right and it doesn't pay enough to even pay for your expenses No and to get the merchandise and all that stuff and to pay for a tour manager in a van and gas alone you know it's really fucking hard yeah it's you're in a weird situation it's like you guys are like superstar artists you're like super talented like your music is amazing but I'm like how the fuck are you bitches broke that doesn't make any sense of it's hilarious yeah a lot of drug issues Ben spends a lot of money on beauty products fuck fuck fuck I love a nice pair of chinos open in the sports pay now he goes into J -Crew and he spends thousands of dollars, dude goes off.

[1842] Like a cannon.

[1843] You know those smelly bath places at those at the mall?

[1844] Do I?

[1845] Yeah, you know those places.

[1846] Do I?

[1847] Some people just buy a bunch of shit they'll never use.

[1848] That's the worst.

[1849] You know what's funny?

[1850] I'll be honest with you.

[1851] When I was younger and I had a, like when I, when I had a steady job, like actually when I worked at baby blues selling barbecue, I made more money selling barbecue than I did with a record deal.

[1852] And I had like sweet cash all the time and I would just buy.

[1853] whatever I wanted like I'd go to nice restaurants all the time with my friends and I'd buy myself whatever clothing I wanted and and it's funny this point in my life like you know shit's pretty tight so you got you got to really like unless I need it you need a sugar daddy no I'm not not that kind of girl Joe but let's I know you're not but let's pretend you were don't you pressure me let's make let's come up with a fake sugar daddy some perfect scenario type like a podcast empire guy.

[1854] Do you like guys with a werewolf facial hair?

[1855] You know, you need to be able to physically pick me up.

[1856] Physically?

[1857] That's true.

[1858] Change a tire, throw football.

[1859] Yeah, in case you have a hurt angle and you're in the desert.

[1860] With a hurt ankle in the desert, the man's got to be able to carry you dead.

[1861] Yeah.

[1862] Because otherwise you're just going to lay there and die.

[1863] And I hurt my ankle all the time, so I can't carry you.

[1864] Yeah, what the fuck?

[1865] You know, a man should be able to carry his woman.

[1866] She'll carry her through the desert, at least over the shoulders.

[1867] Actually, I really have no idea what I want, and we'll find out as time goes on.

[1868] Oh, we're talking for real?

[1869] Will you play their Pyo song?

[1870] Oh, Red Band wants to hear Ohio.

[1871] That's my favorite.

[1872] That's a great song, too.

[1873] I messed up the lyrics the other night.

[1874] Oh, no. I felt like to winerystiles.

[1875] I did you do freestyle.

[1876] When you saw, what's her name, fuck up the national anthem, what's her name?

[1877] Christine Aguilera.

[1878] When you saw that, did you wince?

[1879] Like, when you, like, if I see a comedian bomb, I can't even watch.

[1880] You know what?

[1881] No, it's, it happened.

[1882] it's like well that that's no disrespect i don't want to i don't want to fucking dog on anybody but like but what like here's the thing like we hadn't again like we hadn't slept for a couple days like been like exhausted and sometimes sometimes like you get comfortable and then you zone out and then you're like fuck fuck fuck and then you just and i did i freestyle and it made sense and i was like maybe those lyrics would have been better than the original ones we'd written it could be any number things though right because it was like i'ma get you sucker mama said knock you out ohio today was That very good.

[1883] Is that what you did?

[1884] No. What did you do?

[1885] I was like...

[1886] How did you make up for it?

[1887] I literally just started saying, where is that right?

[1888] No, you didn't.

[1889] Oh, no, that's hilarious.

[1890] What were you thinking?

[1891] Stuff, enough.

[1892] I was just like, oh, God, oh, God.

[1893] I was like, rap, rap, rap, staff, stuff, stuff, tough.

[1894] Enough, enough, enough, enough.

[1895] It's like, thank God I can screw up on the guitar now.

[1896] I'm not getting trouble.

[1897] You're such an asshole.

[1898] Come on.

[1899] What's a terrible feeling to...

[1900] No one noticed.

[1901] Forget what you're talking about in front of a million people.

[1902] But they, they don't know.

[1903] No?

[1904] They don't even know who we are.

[1905] They're like, there's a girl with hair on her head and she's got a banjo.

[1906] That's all they saw?

[1907] Okay.

[1908] I need to slow down.

[1909] That's a crazy thing about Cheryl Crowlow, too, is that she goes up there and she has this brain tumor.

[1910] She's a brain tumor right now.

[1911] Is it, like, is it able to be operated on it?

[1912] It's benign, but she forget stuff, so she has, what?

[1913] It's true.

[1914] She owns up to it.

[1915] That's the thing.

[1916] She goes up there and she's like, if she forgets a word, she says, I got a brain tumor.

[1917] But the fact that she goes up on stage with the knowledge that she could forget the lyrics or not knowing.

[1918] I think that takes a huge amount of lady balls.

[1919] Lady balls.

[1920] Yeah.

[1921] Lady balls.

[1922] Yes, it definitely does.

[1923] Yeah, it's just an amazing thing.

[1924] Lady boss.

[1925] Does that turn you on, Brian?

[1926] Yes.

[1927] Let's talk about that.

[1928] Rare human beings.

[1929] What else are you feeling?

[1930] Ladies Triangles Next Cut off I started drinking also You did good for you Did you have some of the honey JD No I had Fake Captain Morgan's Oh Is that the stuff that you said you were going to drink We did That's what we tweeted at you and you were like I don't know what that means I didn't know what that means That's good It's better this way It's the type of ooze I've never heard of it We got hammered the last time we were on your show.

[1931] Yeah.

[1932] It was a great time.

[1933] We had a great time, too.

[1934] Oh, okay, good.

[1935] Our manager just emailed us.

[1936] I thought he was going to be like, step, acting like idiots.

[1937] Why would you ever listen to anybody?

[1938] Don't ever listen to anybody that tells you how to act, ever, because they definitely can't get it right.

[1939] Sometimes they're right.

[1940] No, no, no. You know what you're doing.

[1941] Just trust your instincts.

[1942] Okay.

[1943] Go with the flow and use the force, Luke.

[1944] My instinct is to finish this bottle of, booze and go streaking down Pasadena do it yes that's what you really want to do you I'm kidding but if you do it it means that you really wanted to do it and then you should just fucking do it I haven't I don't think I've ever gone streaking good then don't do it if it doesn't feel like that's what you should be doing come on what you know there's some crazy bitch that wants to take off her clothes and run down the street what's wrong with that I say nothing keep my boots on you know as long as you're not hurt my feet that's a good move makes perfect sense and you should probably why would you want to run naked with bare feet that's That sounds so dangerous.

[1945] Hey, Joe, can I hit that joint?

[1946] I don't know where it is, son.

[1947] Oh, party foul.

[1948] Seems like we should be higher for listening to his songs.

[1949] I want to talk about the crazy dude.

[1950] A crazy dude?

[1951] Well, you're talking about, I really, can I read an email?

[1952] Yes, please.

[1953] I'm doing this.

[1954] Wait a minute, are you sure you want to do this?

[1955] Yes.

[1956] If it's a real stalker.

[1957] Yes, I am.

[1958] Okay, so you were talking about crazy encounters with people.

[1959] This is fun to me. This is really fun.

[1960] So the other day when we had our epic show, I was telling you about in Santa Rosa, California.

[1961] There was a gentleman that was front and center, and he was really enthusiastic to say the least, and was so very complimentary and genuine at the end of the show and had said, hey, I would love it if you guys came and played a show in my house one day.

[1962] And originally we were like, it's kind of weird.

[1963] You know, people say that.

[1964] You're like, you know, okay, well, that's a nice sentiment, but we want to be careful.

[1965] careful with situations like that and then then the guy's like I can you know you'd be playing after Steve Miller Steve Miller ban and and he's like he's like you know I can I can afford to like pay you and basically saying that them that he's got you know some some Mool -law and he can he can pay us right so then so then he gets a little weird oh shit and oh god where is it are you going to blow up this guy's spot no no no I'm not any names but it got really Ben do you have it there it is oh no did he respond okay so so he was a little kooky like he was dancing around the front of the stage and um then he sent he talked to our management and our manager was like this could be really great for you guys and then he sent an email to our manager and it goes like this jeff about honey honey and the lead singer she really needs some help with the tire starting with her boots she can be one really knocked out gal if she dressed right as she might have noticed I am covered with women so that is not my interest her talent is about the lead guitarist that would be Ben his humility on stage is a great plus about the drummer he should be shown new licks from some of the greats as he has the potential to be one himself about 8 for the date that he wanted us to play but if you have any anyway my birthday so he had this big fucking spiel about my boots being a problem and I think my boots are fine you really are you're really addressing this I mean they smell a little you guys need more problems in your life no you need more problems you're like you're right you're right thank you for calling us out one dummy talking about your shoes who cares what that guy thinks well we let him you know what we let him in it's our fault we let him in we were hopeful I was literally planning on playing a show by myself because Ben couldn't make it and then he told me that I wasn't cool because of my boots you got to develop better crazy people antenna and I said you're not cool because of your face It's pretty obvious with this dude.

[1966] You're right, you're right.

[1967] Well, then you should have said...

[1968] I feel totally hoed, though.

[1969] He owed us.

[1970] He hoed you?

[1971] Well, it sounds like he's a rich douchebag.

[1972] There's a lot of those out there.

[1973] You're right.

[1974] It's normal.

[1975] I appreciate you calling us out, because you're right.

[1976] We should move on from you.

[1977] It's no big deal.

[1978] Anyone that hates on boots, you don't even want to know.

[1979] But it's just so silly.

[1980] Why does he give a fuck what you're dressed like?

[1981] That's what you like to dress like.

[1982] I think that's what pisses me off.

[1983] It's like, you're an idiot.

[1984] You can't, you can't influence.

[1985] It's like you can't say, oh, you know, you should be in stilettos and with your fucking toes and sparkles on.

[1986] You know what?

[1987] Our next show, I'm going to fucking wear a lizard costume just to prove a point.

[1988] Wear only boots.

[1989] We should wear what you want to wear.

[1990] I said lizard suit costume.

[1991] Non -creative people always feel like they can fix things.

[1992] Like they can step in and fix like your little, oh, you just need a, he needs a fucking haircut, this guy.

[1993] This is what your problem is.

[1994] The problem isn't the distribution music.

[1995] This young man, when he's crazy hair, it's all over the way.

[1996] You need something more of us.

[1997] People get wacky.

[1998] The girl needs to lose weight.

[1999] No, no, no, no, no. No one needs anything.

[2000] Look at that Adel chick.

[2001] You know?

[2002] I mean, it's just all you need is a sound.

[2003] You need the amazing sound for your voice.

[2004] People fucking love you.

[2005] Look at Amy Winehouse.

[2006] Crocked out to the end.

[2007] All fucked up, missing teeth.

[2008] Amazing voice.

[2009] Everybody loved her.

[2010] Loved her.

[2011] Loved her.

[2012] She didn't look good.

[2013] She looked crazy.

[2014] She looks a lot better now.

[2015] Shut up, Bradman.

[2016] Okay, Red Band, you need a time out.

[2017] You're fucking cut off.

[2018] Shut up, Brian.

[2019] For at least 15 minutes, you asshole.

[2020] How dare you, you son of a bitch.

[2021] That rehab song, man. That's going to take at least like three to four years off your life from karma.

[2022] I know.

[2023] She was so interesting because it was like retro but not, you know.

[2024] Like that rehab song, what a beautiful song, man. She had an incredible voice.

[2025] But that's, sorry, baby.

[2026] I was just going to say, I was watching her live last night.

[2027] I was just thinking about how, you know, you see a lot of groups that are successful kind of redoing an old sound.

[2028] And even if they do it great, it's, It's, you know, it can be great, but she kind of contemporized.

[2029] Yeah.

[2030] She did something completely different.

[2031] Yeah.

[2032] And that's amazing.

[2033] She had so much, like, we were talking about earlier about, like, emotions, like, traveling through the lyrics.

[2034] And it doesn't even matter what you're singing about.

[2035] If, like, the emotion in your mind, you know, comes through the words, there's, like, this weird effect that a song has.

[2036] And with her, like, she totally nailed that man. Remember seeing that rehab video where she's sort of swaying on that.

[2037] microphone while she's saying it you're like god damn that bitch has got some talent you know she just had this weird new thing like this new this new thing next level yeah look at this new thing crazy voice talking about she's not going to go to rehab she's singing about not going to rehab yeah but i mean that was truthful you know it was true that's what's kind of sort of like heartbreaking and beautiful about it at the same time is that that was like that wasn't somebody being like hey let me write a pop song that everybody's going to want to buy and listen to and sounds really trendy right now that wasn't some sort of generic kind of regurgitation of what's already been done that was that was somebody being honest and you know it's it's very interesting and powerful because that woman if I think if you were to look really closely didn't didn't really care too much about the other side of like the attention I think she just really wanted to be loved and she was an artist you know and because you know she talks a lot about her heartbreak, or talked.

[2038] And there's a really interesting thing that I think about a lot.

[2039] I saw this really sad YouTube video of when she kind of got carried off stage.

[2040] She was playing in Serbia.

[2041] And this was about a week before she died.

[2042] She had started a tour.

[2043] And she came out and it was like, hello, Athens.

[2044] And she's in Serbia.

[2045] And it's like clearly just inebriated beyond belief and falling over.

[2046] can't sing and um you know it's an interesting thing to think about the fact that no one put her into some sort of facility immediately upon that circumstance alone but you know when you think about all of her art it was like people were like yeah I love this song it was a club hit it was a radio hit single number one billboard everything and then if you really to look closely it's like that was is that the show oh shit I don't know it's like that was real um and you know not to bring it down low yeah i think that's a show um yeah she starts taking her shoes off and shit oh yeah i i saw this um and you know it's just like somebody just take her home she got a bad mixture so yeah just give her a cup of coffee smack in the face get it back out red man say something funny give a little slap on the ass you You know, look, do you see that shit and you see it as like, well, you know, there's the pitfalls of fame, avoid these roadblocks, or do you ever think that that could ever happen to you?

[2047] You could become super Amy Winehouse -style famous.

[2048] No, I got a really solid family.

[2049] I got a really great, you know, foundation.

[2050] You're from Ohio stock.

[2051] Yeah, or Italian.

[2052] They're actually here.

[2053] I'm actually late for dinner.

[2054] But, yeah, my folks and I've got three sisters and some really incredible friends and Ben, you know.

[2055] So you guys are going to keep it together no matter what, even if you get Jay -Z -type famous?

[2056] If I visit you on your yacht...

[2057] Don't you become a crackhead on my watch?

[2058] If you guys have a giant yacht and dancing girls on the yacht and I come visit you and...

[2059] We're going to have that, but we'll be meditating.

[2060] We'll have all the fucking naked chicks and all the booze, but we'll be like zen and meditating on our juice cleanses and shit.

[2061] I don't think the girl's supposed to be naked.

[2062] That makes it a little classless.

[2063] Okay, scantily clad.

[2064] They're free to do whatever they want, though.

[2065] That's the thing.

[2066] We're not going to stop.

[2067] We won't stop them from going topless if they don't want tan lines.

[2068] In translucent undergarments.

[2069] Translucent undergarments.

[2070] As well as the men, let's not fucking discriminate here.

[2071] Do you remember when pornosters had tan lines and the girls had tan lines?

[2072] Harry Justin.

[2073] Brian, you remember that shit?

[2074] Remember tan lines when tan lines were hot?

[2075] Huh?

[2076] Tan lines are still hot, especially underbooth.

[2077] Do you guys remember the Playboy Bunny tan line when they put the sticker on?

[2078] Never did that?

[2079] Never did that?

[2080] Good for you.

[2081] I did it.

[2082] But a lot of girls in high school did.

[2083] I did.

[2084] Good for them, too.

[2085] Do you still go tanning?

[2086] Do I look like I go tanning?

[2087] Brian, what's last time you tan?

[2088] Brian, look at me. You know what sucks about spray tan?

[2089] I got, the back of my neck got burned yesterday because I was walking outside without some block on.

[2090] Which is very dangerous.

[2091] Brian?

[2092] Huh?

[2093] What sucks about spray tanning?

[2094] Because your bed looks like Garfield, like, died in it.

[2095] It does it look like.

[2096] It does have an odor, does it not?

[2097] It's like an orange streak in your bed.

[2098] It does have an odor.

[2099] It's chemical.

[2100] It's on that.

[2101] What do you think is going to happen once they have the ability to actually physically alter the way you look?

[2102] Because they're working on that now.

[2103] Like they're working on all sorts of different.

[2104] No, no, no. Genetic engineering.

[2105] Oh, fuck.

[2106] That's so weird.

[2107] Change people's genomes.

[2108] Change whatever that is.

[2109] Their DNA change whatever the fuck they're going to be able to change.

[2110] But they're going to be able to do something where they can alter your skin.

[2111] That's how everything turns into a minority report.

[2112] Everybody could turn black like a gorilla.

[2113] Yeah.

[2114] That'd be cool to be black like every Friday, like Black Friday.

[2115] Like a total black.

[2116] No, it wouldn't be the U .T. changing back and forth.

[2117] Imagine if you try to keep changing back and forth, your DNA just kept getting jacked.

[2118] More and more fucked up.

[2119] You're like, I want to try to be an old man for one day just to see what it's going to be like.

[2120] Go Benjamin Button on their asses.

[2121] Yeah.

[2122] I do that.

[2123] It's called October.

[2124] What?

[2125] What?

[2126] Just in October.

[2127] Moving on.

[2128] Yeah, we lost ourselves there.

[2129] I know.

[2130] Oh, damn it.

[2131] Where are you going to take mom?

[2132] Are you going to go to the hall of garden?

[2133] Never.

[2134] That is sacrilegious.

[2135] Son of us.

[2136] You are a jerk.

[2137] Let me tell you something.

[2138] You don't even know what just happened.

[2139] My Italian family, come on.

[2140] That's not what just happened.

[2141] You got trolled.

[2142] He mentions Olive Garden every show.

[2143] He just did a verbal troll.

[2144] He mentions the Olive Garden every show.

[2145] He thinks it's cute.

[2146] No, my family owns an Italian restaurant.

[2147] That's like, son of a bitch.

[2148] 40 years, my grandparents started.

[2149] So they hate the Olive Garden.

[2150] Well, they don't hate the Olive Garden, but it's like, that's like saying, hey guys, thanks for coming to California.

[2151] Let's go to McDonald's.

[2152] Yeah, but they could appreciate the value.

[2153] You know, you're saving their daughter some money because I'm...

[2154] You do have endless breadsticks there.

[2155] Red van.

[2156] Red band.

[2157] Once again, you're put back in time out.

[2158] Okay.

[2159] He's fellow Ohio stock.

[2160] I know.

[2161] That's why I'm saying let's stick with the local businesses.

[2162] He's a...

[2163] He's from a different part of...

[2164] White Castle.

[2165] I do like White Castle.

[2166] And in and out.

[2167] Oh, God.

[2168] That's all east coast.

[2169] That's not just Ohio.

[2170] You guys are naming national chains now.

[2171] No, I'm a fan of the chain.

[2172] I'm just saying as an Italian woman.

[2173] I cannot go to Olive Garden and feel good about myself.

[2174] of all the states, I think.

[2175] Honestly, I'm no. Texans and Ohioans.

[2176] Well, there's a lot of them out here, man. They stick together, these Ohio freaks.

[2177] They're like Brazilians.

[2178] We do.

[2179] We're mobilizing out here on the West Coast.

[2180] That's the way they call it the Midwest Mafia.

[2181] Hollow.

[2182] That is what they're called.

[2183] So, will you play Ohio, and then we'll wrap this bitch up?

[2184] Cool.

[2185] Bring it into shore?

[2186] I don't know if I'm in Tade.

[2187] Sorry.

[2188] the same song and dance downtown bars and cheap romance getting off not getting far alone I watch this freeway turn to dust I flick you off the upper crust shouting down how you can bring it back to how it was act tough when you say face I call your bluff you don't want to give me some I'll find some Someone who does, I swear it's summer's hot till my daddy died, I got swept up in family pride.

[2189] Truth is that the truth came in and hung me. So the hurt, lungs filled up to shout the word, got you pay.

[2190] That was awesome.

[2191] I'm a huge fan of that song.

[2192] Listen, we have to do something where every time you guys are going to go on the road, no matter where you are, you got to let us know so we can tweet it.

[2193] Oh, cool.

[2194] That's awesome.

[2195] you're coming to anywhere let us know put it up and we'll tweet it and we'll talk about it on the podcast send me an email let me know where are you going to be people want to know because I keep I keep getting all these tweets and people asking me on Facebook like how do we go to see them where are they where are they going to be October we have a tour in October HoneyHoneyBand .com HoneyHoneyBand dot com and HoneyHoneyBand on Twitter and you guys are fucking awesome I'm so psyched that we're friends it's so cool to have you guys on to shoot the shit and hang out and it's just thank you so much for so fun yeah we love and i'm so happy to hear that so many people that listened to the podcast came out to see you guys it was incredible that feels beautiful we're going to make it more we're going to make you to pack it look you guys are awesome you so talented and i'm just uh i'm honored to be friends of you guys really oh man it's beautiful to have you on like follow them you dirty bitches honey honey band on twitter and um follow mm follow alienware m m ms they're the ones who supply us with these groovy ass space age type gaming computers um check them out on Twitter and Red Band.

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[2205] I'll see you guys.

[2206] We've got an epic, epic week.

[2207] Tomorrow, Immortal Technique.

[2208] What?

[2209] What?

[2210] Wednesday, Rob Wolf, author of the Paleo Diet Sun.

[2211] We're going to break down why it's good to be a caveman.

[2212] And then Maynard James Keenan on Friday.

[2213] Holl at you boy.

[2214] I'm going to have a good fucking time this week, you dirty bitches.

[2215] We love you all.

[2216] And thank you, everybody in Calgary.

[2217] Before we go, I just want to play this back for the people in Calgary because this was, for real, one of the craziest fucking crowds.

[2218] We had two crazy crowds.

[2219] We sold out this place called the Jack Singer Concert Hall.

[2220] and this is this is me going on stage in Calgary because it's just so ridiculous this is probably the craziest crowd I've ever been this is like I've ever been in front of my left because people are insane they're fucking savages up there so the crowd was so crazy 20 dudes got kicked out for being hammered and heckling and at the end of the show I get a standing ovation and when everybody stands up one guy pulls his dick out and starts peeing on the people in front of them yes and there's a very There's a video of people punching him in the face.

[2221] There's a video of that guy getting punched in the face.

[2222] It's on my Twitter feed from a couple of days ago.

[2223] It was awesome.

[2224] Calgary, you people were the shit.

[2225] Even just, look, 20 douchebags out of a crowd, two crowds of 2 ,000 people is fucking great numbers.

[2226] People are like, oh, I'm sorry of those people ruined your time in Calgary.

[2227] Nobody ruined anything.

[2228] I had a great fucking time.

[2229] It was amazing.

[2230] Calgary was the shit.

[2231] And the guys who got kicked out, you know, they just got too drunk.

[2232] The intermission was a terrible idea, too.

[2233] There's an intermission.

[2234] over we'll see you guys tomorrow or not your call it's your call thanks