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[4] Hi, Gao.
[5] How you doing?
[6] Welcome to Conan O 'Brien needs a friend.
[7] Hey, hey, guys.
[8] Hello, Gao.
[9] How are you?
[10] I'm good, you?
[11] I'm doing very well, Gao.
[12] Tell me, where are you right now?
[13] I'm in a small town called Buriram, it's in the northeastern part of my country.
[14] I'm on a race weekend now so I'm traveling and and you're in Thailand is that right yes in Thailand okay okay and and you said where was he said he was doing what a race some race weekend a race weekend are you a what's a race weekend well basically in in motor racing as a sport oh motor racing okay I thought it was a weekend where people got around and discussed racial issues so very similar yeah I've been to a few race weekends and they were not what I thought they were.
[15] It was very awkward and I got very upset.
[16] So is that, tell me, Gao, is that your profession?
[17] Are you in the racing profession?
[18] Yes, I am.
[19] I work as a coordinator for a racing team.
[20] Oh, wow.
[21] So I just make sure that people get to places on time.
[22] In the race or just one time?
[23] I mean, yeah, I mean, Matt brings up a good question.
[24] Are you coordinating people within the race, or you just mean you're making hotel accommodations and stuff like that?
[25] Well, I coordinate all aspects of it.
[26] So anything that requires coordination would be me. During a race, when your team is racing, have you ever had to contact a driver and say, we couldn't get you a seaside view you're facing the courtyard?
[27] Has that ever happened?
[28] Well, not during a race, but I'm sure I've told that to someone and they got quite disappointed.
[29] Yes, yes.
[30] The worst call is when you have to tell a driver, you're going to be, your room is right next to the ice machine.
[31] That's the worst.
[32] Yes.
[33] Actually, I'm sitting next to an ice machine right now.
[34] Oh, no. You did it to yourself.
[35] Gao, that's probably, you seem like the kind of guy who would put yourself, you would take a bullet for the team.
[36] You put yourself near the ice machine so everyone else.
[37] gets a good night's sleep.
[38] Absolutely.
[39] That's my sole purpose of existing at all.
[40] Well, you seem like, gal, that's really nice.
[41] You seem like a good guy.
[42] Tell me something.
[43] Do you come from a racing family?
[44] Do people in the family race?
[45] Yes.
[46] My father used to be a racer before becoming a mechanic.
[47] So he made a name for himself by becoming a very good mechanic.
[48] He's one of the first people who took Thai racing teams to Asian stage.
[49] and then, you know, we won Japanese championships all of a sudden, yeah.
[50] That's exciting.
[51] So people in Thailand know of your dad.
[52] If they know about racing, they know of your dad.
[53] Well, I don't think they know my dad as Americans know you, but they do know my dad.
[54] I didn't say he was a beloved national icon.
[55] The very mention of his name causes women to swoon.
[56] That would be an unfair comparison.
[57] And, Gow, but...
[58] Swoon isn't the word.
[59] It's like...
[60] What's like a really desperate form of fleeing?
[61] Like a fight or flight mechanism is triggered.
[62] You were going to say evacuating.
[63] Yeah, both bowels and...
[64] Okay, there you go.
[65] But...
[66] Now, Gow, I apologize from my friends.
[67] They're crass.
[68] They don't understand the ways of the world.
[69] No need.
[70] So, Gao, so your father is in the racing business.
[71] Any brothers, sisters in the racing business?
[72] Well, my brother is also a racing driver.
[73] So he started, yeah.
[74] Actually, you know, when you have a father who's in racing, your parents tend to be quite restrictive of you going to races.
[75] or, you know, chasing a racing career.
[76] Yeah.
[77] But my brother snuck out to drive a car and race a car.
[78] So my father found out, and then he started a racing team just to keep my brother in check so that he doesn't go racing like anywhere else.
[79] That's a fascinating, that's a fascinating strategy.
[80] You're running out there and you're racing instead of saying, forbid this.
[81] He said, I'll build a racing team around you so that you, I'll have at least some control over your destiny.
[82] He should to try to start a bank.
[83] Yeah, I know.
[84] You want to start a bank, do you?
[85] I'll give you $100 million.
[86] That'll show you.
[87] So what is, Gao, tell me, what is your brother's name?
[88] Nung.
[89] Nun.
[90] It means very close, but it means number one in Thai.
[91] So very special name.
[92] Hold on a second.
[93] Is he your younger brother?
[94] Yeah.
[95] Wait a minute.
[96] He's my older brother.
[97] Oh, wait.
[98] Wait.
[99] Oh, he's your older brother.
[100] Okay.
[101] Okay, that makes sense.
[102] I thought, for a second, I thought he was your younger brother and they named him number one.
[103] And I thought, what did you do, gal?
[104] He's 0 .5.
[105] Yeah.
[106] Point five.
[107] Come here.
[108] Say hi to 1.
[109] How do you race with the name number one and ever lose?
[110] and live with yourself right i think that's the uh that's what keeps him winning yes does he um what's his attitude like what's tell me about your brother is it nun uh it's uh ning yeah you got it um yeah you you got it uh my favorite thing i'll do it every time i'm you should um what what's it what's he like compare you know how are your personalities different My brother's, you know, if you, the typical stereotype of a racing driver is that they're handsome, they fit, and, you know, they are Casanovas.
[111] Yes.
[112] So, you know, picture a racing driver with all the girls beside him.
[113] Yeah.
[114] My brother was kind of that until he got married.
[115] So he's always the one with the girls.
[116] Wow.
[117] You know, wow.
[118] I'm selling you're lighting up.
[119] I hate you.
[120] Yeah.
[121] Yeah, yeah.
[122] Let me ask you a question.
[123] Number one.
[124] Let me ask you a question, Gow.
[125] Is it all difficult for you?
[126] I come from a large family, a lot of brothers.
[127] Is it all, is it all difficult for you that you have a brother who's called, whose name is number one.
[128] He's the first.
[129] Yeah.
[130] And he's handsome and charismatic and a Casanova.
[131] And your father built this whole team around him.
[132] Is it tough for you?
[133] Do you feel like you're in competition with your brother?
[134] I feel like I'm out of competition with my brother more because I you know I'm in a different league he's in a different league so I don't think so no go no I'm team gal no yeah number two oh yeah our slogan is uh there's a lot to do with number two yeah nothing evokes a more pleasing image than number two yeah no Two us up.
[135] Gow, you are wrong.
[136] I don't like you saying this about yourself because I haven't met your brother, but I think that you are every bit as important as your brother.
[137] Every bit as important as your brother.
[138] And I think maybe even more so.
[139] And so that's how I feel about this situation.
[140] Gow, it's all about attitude.
[141] I think you need to start maybe changing your behavior a little bit to make yourself number one in the family.
[142] Do you understand what I'm saying?
[143] How would he do that?
[144] Okay, I'll tell you how to do it.
[145] First of all, you need to start being kind of unpleasant.
[146] No. Yeah, and walking around like, I'm in charge here.
[147] And enough of this, oh, I'll figure out which hotel rooms people stay in.
[148] No, you should be racing, Gow.
[149] Do you ever race?
[150] Do you ever get in a car and race?
[151] I did, but not professionally, so.
[152] You mean just on the highway when you were in a hurry?
[153] Oh, yes.
[154] No, not really.
[155] For legal reasons, no. But I did race a bit of go -kart when I was young.
[156] You raised go -karts?
[157] Well, I think go -karts are every bit as respectable as any other machine on the road.
[158] And I think you should go back to go -kart racing and become so good at go -kart racing and internationally famous at it that everyone forgets.
[159] I mean, I can't even say his name, Nune, you know, because he's so unimportant to me. You just said it.
[160] I don't think I said it correctly, did I?
[161] I don't know.
[162] I think coordinating is important because it's like you can race, but if you don't get to the race, then you're just going around in circles.
[163] Yeah, stay in your life.
[164] Why not why be the second best racer when you can be the best coordinator?
[165] Don't listen to them.
[166] That's an interesting take.
[167] Yeah, it's easy to be the host.
[168] Yeah, exactly.
[169] Gow, these people are fools.
[170] And Eduardo, you get near that mic again.
[171] And you're out of here, see?
[172] Out of here.
[173] We got your back, buddy.
[174] All right, I'm going to fire the guy who knows how to work the equipment.
[175] Who built a studio Well, Gow, what do you like to drive?
[176] Are you a motorcycle guy at all?
[177] Well, my, given that I work for a motorcycle racing team Oh, it's all motorcycle racing.
[178] Oh, I forgot that.
[179] Is Noon a motorcycle racer as well?
[180] No, my brother's a car racer.
[181] Oh.
[182] Oh, so now I'm confused.
[183] You don't work for his team?
[184] You don't work for your brother's team.
[185] No. I work for, well, in motor racing, unlike other sports, you know, if you're in athletics or in swimming, you have national teams, right?
[186] But given that I work in motorcycles and motorcycles have many brands, you cannot have national team.
[187] But the closest thing you can have to a national team is a factory team.
[188] Let's say I work for Yamaha Thailand, and, you know, Yamaha Thailand factory has its own team that races all around the world.
[189] Okay.
[190] That's me. Okay.
[191] Do you ride motorcycles?
[192] I do.
[193] What do you have?
[194] I love riding it.
[195] What do you ride?
[196] The last bike that was lent to me by my late uncle.
[197] My late uncle has this 50, 60 bike's collection that he would always.
[198] bring in to service with us.
[199] So the last bike that I wrote was a Ducati.
[200] Wow.
[201] Don't tell my boss.
[202] No, that's okay.
[203] And I love that you just, I love that you just made this motion into a microphone.
[204] It's being broadcast around the world.
[205] Yeah.
[206] Do you think I, you know, I might surprise.
[207] I have a motorcycle.
[208] That might surprise you.
[209] Oh, yeah.
[210] What do you ride?
[211] Well, I had to get, I have to ride something for a tall person.
[212] so I got a tall bike which is a Suzuki DRZ you know those oh yeah that's nice it's a high bike you know 398 cc and yep yep yep that's a bike that I like to tool around on but because it's all because I have long legs that's cool yeah so what do you ride that's um what the fuck I can't even what do you ride oh me yeah a tell you ride 60 60 HG5 Yeah, I'm a blue room.
[213] So I want to ride the bus.
[214] The blue room, the seven series.
[215] Say what you see.
[216] I write the microphone series.
[217] Gow, I'm going to try and...
[218] Of the Yamahs.
[219] Gal, I'm going to pull this back to...
[220] The printed paper.
[221] I'm going to pull this back together, okay?
[222] Because this is...
[223] I think we lost our way here.
[224] And that's on me, you know, because I'm the...
[225] the coordinator of this discussion.
[226] Right.
[227] And I put us all next to the ice machine.
[228] So let me...
[229] That's my raising name.
[230] Yeah.
[231] Let me...
[232] Ice machine.
[233] Let me...
[234] Coney in the ice machine, O 'Brien.
[235] Yes.
[236] You've heard of the ice man. I'm the ice machine.
[237] Here's what we're going to do.
[238] Okay, gal.
[239] I want to summarize, and you tell me if I'm correct.
[240] You have grown up in your brother's shadow.
[241] Your brother is number one.
[242] You say he's handsome.
[243] He gets all the girls.
[244] and he's a he's a he's a champion racer yes yes okay you have i don't know if it was because your brother was called number one but you um you feel like you uh make room for your brother and you help uh you know and you work in a different aspect of racing is that true well maybe i don't know maybe maybe it's something unconscious.
[245] I see, I think you're assuming a lot about Gao.
[246] He could be perfectly happy and should be.
[247] What makes you think he's got to replace what his brother is and not just be himself, you know?
[248] Well, first of all, I've never heard of two therapists in one room.
[249] It's the kind of therapy I don't believe in.
[250] Who's the other therapist?
[251] I'm the therapist here.
[252] Oh, dear.
[253] Yeah, and I'm talking to Gao.
[254] And Gao, would you say that you're a happy person?
[255] because I want to just plant a small seed in your brain that deep, deep, deep down, you're enraged at your brother.
[256] Are you projecting?
[257] Is one of your brothers like the cool brother?
[258] I just don't see why Neal, I'm sorry.
[259] That's my brother's name.
[260] Why Neal gets to be the cool one who gets to have all the fruit loops.
[261] Yes, lie on the couch, gal.
[262] Yeah, I'm on a couch.
[263] So should I lie down?
[264] Gow, I have a question.
[265] Have you had, this is a personal question.
[266] You don't have to answer it.
[267] Have you had therapy before?
[268] Yeah.
[269] Okay.
[270] And did they go?
[271] Oh, did you say yes to having therapy?
[272] Oh, no, no, no. It's not yet a widespread thing here in Thailand.
[273] Right, right.
[274] I mean, people are becoming much more aware of mental illness and mental conditions.
[275] That's good.
[276] That's good.
[277] And things like that lately.
[278] Right.
[279] Right.
[280] Still, it's not a widespread practice in Thailand.
[281] Sounds like an open field.
[282] You could be the number one therapist.
[283] Oh.
[284] Really, it could be.
[285] I mean, I should, I should, you know, my number one customer as a therapist would be myself, I guess.
[286] Yeah, well, I think, first of all, I feel bad for the people of Thailand because a lot of them are walking around perfectly happy.
[287] And if they had therapists, they'd know that they should be miserable.
[288] so you need some therapist there to maybe and people like me to plants because I met you Gao and you seem perfectly happy and charming and nice and you're good at what you do but what I want to do is plant the subliminal font in your head that your brother Nyun is destroying your life and you must overtake him in some way and so you must you must rise in the family it's like that TV show's succession you've got to rise.
[289] I'm tired of Newton walking around, strutting his stuff, acting like Mr. Cool with all his lady friends.
[290] Hey, that's what we are.
[291] We're the three siblings of succession.
[292] Oh.
[293] What?
[294] Oh.
[295] Are we?
[296] Yeah.
[297] No, I'm...
[298] Are you the fuck up?
[299] No. No, I'm cousin Greg.
[300] I'm the cousin Greg.
[301] But anyway, does any of this make any sense to you, Gower, is it not ringing true?
[302] You can be honest with me. Well, I mean, I'm perfectly happy.
[303] But the next time I see my brother, I'm going to tell him to sleep next to the ice machine.
[304] Yes.
[305] Nice.
[306] I like that.
[307] And tell him Conan O 'Brien said so.
[308] That's a good new slam.
[309] Like, hey, why don't you go sleep next to the ice machine?
[310] Yeah.
[311] That's a really good slam.
[312] That's a great slam.
[313] Use that all you want, gal.
[314] Wait a little it comes your way.
[315] He'll kill it.
[316] Well, listen, Gao, it's very nice talking to you.
[317] You seem like a very nice person, and I wish you all the best.
[318] And you tell your brother, when you see him, yes, tell him he's going to sleep by the ice machine, and he better watch his back because Conan O 'Brien's coming for him, okay?
[319] Okay.
[320] And tell him, I'm a mean dude with very long legs.
[321] That usually scares people.
[322] Actually, you have what it takes to be a motor racing team manager, I say.
[323] Wait, why did you say racing team manager?
[324] It's the highest position of the team.
[325] No, go sleep next to the ice machine, man. We don't have time for you.
[326] When you said you have what it takes to be a racing team, I was like so excited for a second.
[327] And then you said manager.
[328] Yeah.
[329] But, you know, that's my fate, gal.
[330] That's my fate.
[331] You can ride.
[332] it's too late but then again you're too tall yeah I'm also no spring chicken is that a phrase that they have in your country I'm a little up there in the years yeah yeah if I crash my bones would just all go flying in every different direction and dogs would catch them and run off with them you know you know actually my name means glass in Thai so I'm pretty fragile as well oh so your brother's number one and you're a fragile glass.
[333] Yes.
[334] He's fantastic.
[335] How's your brother whose name translates to not worth mentioning?
[336] You're young.
[337] There are three of us.
[338] Number one, fragile glass and not worth mentioning.
[339] We live happily.
[340] Well, Gao, you take care.
[341] It was nice talking to you.
[342] Thank you.
[343] If you ever come to Thailand, I'm sure you have more important people to me. But if you ever come to Thailand.
[344] Gao, don't say that.
[345] No, if I come to Thailand, they must meet you.
[346] And actively not meet noon.
[347] Yeah.
[348] Yeah, I'm going to meet you and I'm going to refuse to talk to your brother.
[349] And when he and his lady friends, and trust me, that ladies are going to be flocking to me and not your brother.
[350] Because in person and not on Zoom, I'm quite the looker.
[351] Are you making those noises?
[352] All right.
[353] We'll talk to you later, Guy.
[354] Take care.
[355] Bye.
[356] Thank you.
[357] Bye -bye.
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