#705 - Tait Fletcher

[0] Who's the real captain?

[1] Live.

[2] We're live.

[3] Who is the real captain, man?

[4] I'm, we're talking about the new Star Trek versus the old.

[5] This is shit grown men do in their spare time.

[6] Take, mother fucking fletcher.

[7] Is that Echo in New Mexico?

[8] Yes, my, uh, Nuevo shirt.

[9] Ah, Nuevo Cerveza.

[10] You know, that New Mexico might be the only shape of a state that sort of makes sense.

[11] It's fucking square.

[12] Basically square.

[13] It's like square, but like, it's like, it's.

[14] It looks like on the bottom, some dudes just had some miscommunication.

[15] Like, fucking dude, you're supposed to be over here.

[16] That's Mexico had the miscommunication.

[17] Oh, the line.

[18] I just want that good door.

[19] Mexico wanted, like, there must have been, like, a cool elk hunting spot.

[20] Probably.

[21] And New Mexico's like, oh, we need, we got to have a sorry about it.

[22] We need this little area, this little block off in that corner.

[23] You know, New Mexico is like one of the premier elk hunting spots in the country.

[24] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[25] Different, like when I was a kid in Michigan, we.

[26] would hunt and maybe but i don't know when i was like 12 or something stuff changed and because elk used to be not hunted and then they opened up a season on them so fucking elk you could like walk up to a herd of a hundred deep and there would be i would remember there'd be centuries they would post like young bull elks all around the perimeter and um and it was fucking wild dude they were almost tame and then the year after they opened up permits is skittish is white -tailed deer.

[27] It's really crazy.

[28] One of the best hunting experiences I had there.

[29] I was in like a pit blind with a bow and there were a bunch of dough at a feed pile.

[30] And then I was in this big rye field and I hear like come through the woods.

[31] And then another and these elk met two bowls and they started smashing horns.

[32] And I was fucking blown away.

[33] The deer didn't give a shit.

[34] They're like, just eating whatever, not even.

[35] our species we're good and um it was awesome man it was it's it's i love growing up the woods are rad man i'm so cool that you got into hunting like that you and you're deep deep deep in it like oh i'm too deep there's nothing better i'm obsessed but it's uh the elk thing is so strange they they're the noises they make like when we were hunting in colorado when the females see you they bark it's awesome like they let everybody know it's like it's so open there's all that huge tracking like you got to be an athlete new mexico and and and And Colorado, it's a different kind of hunt.

[36] Well, Colorado, where we were was in the mountains.

[37] It was all trees and stuff.

[38] And it was all about hiding behind trees and bringing them to you.

[39] And being on a run or something, yeah.

[40] Yeah, trying to be near where they are.

[41] And since it's the rut, you try to make noises, you know, like cow calls, or you're trying to bring them in, or you're trying to sneak up on them.

[42] You put dough piss all over you.

[43] You're like, yeah.

[44] Is that the new shit?

[45] Okay.

[46] I was listening to this podcast.

[47] It's a TED Talk podcast.

[48] And I don't know if you ever seen that video, but there's a video that got around about when they reintroduced wolves to Yellowstone Park.

[49] But you can't hunt in Yellowstone Park.

[50] So the animals in Yellowstone Park are the same way that you were talking about those elk.

[51] Elk are the same way.

[52] Like they somehow or another know that people are not going to hunt them.

[53] That's the weird thing about it and how it changed.

[54] Like in one season, I'm like, how are they all symbiotic in this way where they all communicate?

[55] Because none of them had been hunted.

[56] It's like all of a sudden, all the fucking elk knew, though.

[57] Yeah.

[58] It's wild.

[59] They, I mean, you know what it's like, I think?

[60] You know how, is there something wrong?

[61] You know what it's like?

[62] You know how you see birds when they fly and those big.

[63] Or schools of fish.

[64] Yeah, schools of fish.

[65] And they all turn on a dime.

[66] The flocks just know where everybody's going.

[67] It's weird.

[68] There's some sort of strange communication.

[69] There's a telepathy, I think.

[70] And I think that you read that book, The Rise of Superman?

[71] No, I haven't.

[72] I heard it's awesome, though.

[73] Awesome.

[74] And they talk about, I think the movie was Transformers, that all these dudes in wingsuits went off the, uh, is it the Sears Tower in Chicago?

[75] Yeah.

[76] And making almost 90 -degree banks and stuff.

[77] And they're like, if, and there are four of them, and they're following each other.

[78] And if one guy goes, after I see you move, I'm too late.

[79] Right.

[80] I have to move as you're moving, or else I ruin the airflow and all that, and then I hit the building.

[81] Oh, Jesus Christ.

[82] And so these guys practice in the Alps, but they talked about that that you need to be in that flow state and that you start to work with each other in a way that is supernatural.

[83] Yeah.

[84] Which is crazy because I felt that flow state as a singular person in different events in my life, but like that kind of thing where they're working in tandem with each other and they're all talking to each other and I think that's the way that fish move or that's the way like, you know, what is it that gives a frog the sense to jump off the lily pad right as the hawk is diving before the hawks moved or whatever.

[85] Like, what, like, all those fish, it's not like one turns, then the rest follow.

[86] They all move uniformly.

[87] Yeah, the schools of fish and the flocks of birds are so magical.

[88] When you watch them, like, dance in the sky, those giant flocks of birds.

[89] Like, how are they not just slamming heads?

[90] Yeah.

[91] How, what is going on there?

[92] Really.

[93] And then that, the hawks that birds of prey are so different than that.

[94] Yeah.

[95] Like they're, you know.

[96] No flocks of them.

[97] That meat is a different kind of thing.

[98] It does some of the people or animals.

[99] Yeah.

[100] Yeah, those seed -eating birds are the ones that can kind of do that.

[101] They're like, we really need each other, the ones that are mediators are like, I'm good.

[102] This same TED talk, this guy was talking about how humans, it was a different guy, the same podcast, though, was talking about how humans interrupt the natural symphony of nature, and that this symphony, there's a frequency that all these different animals operate at.

[103] There's like a frog has a niche in this frequency, and a bird has a niche in this frequency.

[104] And they were talking about how when frogs, when you have like a whole like swamp filled with frogs on brittip, britties off predators.

[105] Well, it's, it also does it makes it impossible to locate them because there's so much sound coming from so many different places.

[106] You can't find them.

[107] But they have these low flying jets in this area because this is a place where they practice or pilots practice, fighter pilots.

[108] And so they fly these jets like 600 meters above.

[109] the ground, which is pretty low.

[110] And they're shh -h -h -h -h -they're fucking supersonic speeds.

[111] They're fucking just going crazy over the swamp.

[112] And the disruption of sound is so intense that everything stops for a while.

[113] And then slowly these frogs start to re -synchronize.

[114] So like one will rid it, one will rid it.

[115] And then they'll try to find each other and get into that rhythm again.

[116] But when that happens, when they're trying to find that rhythm, that's when all the hawks, all the owls and all the coyotes know exactly when to move in so they move in then and they start picking apart all these frogs they find the frogs and they eat them it's really interesting like they know that there's like a disruption in the in the frequency and i wonder how the like so are those predation animals working on a different frequency than the frogs then or like they're they're opportunists in this way where they're like this is a time you know yeah there must be opportunist i think i mean And I think the whole idea of what, the way he was describing it, the way the frogs do it, where you know how like you're in the swamp or something like that and you hear frogs?

[117] You don't know where the fuck they are.

[118] There's so many of them.

[119] Or sometimes what it is.

[120] Like they sound fucking crazy.

[121] Yeah, there's so many of them.

[122] And so when they have to kind of find each other and because this sound is so intense when the jet flies over, everybody stops what they're doing.

[123] And so they're like, are we doing this?

[124] Are we doing this?

[125] We doing this?

[126] We do it?

[127] Let's do it.

[128] Let's do it.

[129] How long does it take them to recalibrate?

[130] It wasn't long.

[131] It was only a few minutes.

[132] It was like, I think, I want to say 15 minutes, but I might be mistaken.

[133] But it was less than an hour.

[134] And in that time, these, you know, they're trying to get their shit back together again, and they just get jacked.

[135] That's the thing about us, humans, like being the disruption.

[136] Mm -hmm.

[137] Even at, like, what we think of our, I read something somewhere.

[138] I heard a podcast where they're like, there's a kid or somebody that developed a, a bacteria, or some kind of biome that will eat plastic and maybe take care of the big island of plastic as in oceans or whatever, right?

[139] And I started thinking about that.

[140] I'm like, we're fucking idiots.

[141] Like, we created plastic.

[142] Like, that was our solution then.

[143] You know what I mean?

[144] It's like we put nuclear reactors on the biggest fault line in the world where it's the most active.

[145] Like, that's how smart we are.

[146] And like, what do you do when you create a bacteria or something that will eat.

[147] What happens when all the plastics gone?

[148] Like, is that like, you know, is that like the introducing, oh, we've got a rabbit problem in Australia.

[149] Let's get a fox, and then we've got a fox problem.

[150] You know, it's like, fuck, man. That's Australia.

[151] Australia is crazy.

[152] Yeah.

[153] My buddy Adam lives there.

[154] We don't learn from anything.

[155] No. We're the most adaptable creature, and we're like, let's go ahead and get some, we've got a desert, get the golf courses out here.

[156] Let's go ahead and do that.

[157] Well, that was what was interesting about this TED podcast, is the same guy who was talking about the wolves, who's done that video about the wolves in Yellowstone.

[158] It's really interesting because he's got an English accent and he's very enthusiastic about the wolves in Yellowstone and amazing things have happened.

[159] This guy's crazy, though, because he didn't just want to bring wolves back to Yellowstone.

[160] Now he's talking about bringing megafauna to England.

[161] See, they did these studies where they dug deep into the ground and they found fossilized remains from, you know, 10 ,000 plus years ago of lions.

[162] And elephants, this crazy fucker is talking about reintroducing lions to England.

[163] We need that.

[164] But what was English, what was interesting about this cat is that he admitted that all this fascination with wolves and everything came out of a midlife crisis.

[165] He's like, he went into a midlife crisis, and then his solution was to get...

[166] I'm a little bit of a pussy, and now my spirit animal is a wolf.

[167] Yes, exactly.

[168] Exactly.

[169] So this dude got like really super into wolves and super into the idea of what he calls rewilding.

[170] But the thing is, like he was talking about how megafauna used to live in England and that human predation and all that stuff wiped them out.

[171] But that hasn't been proven.

[172] They don't know that for a fact.

[173] It is entirely possible that the climate was just not the best climate for them and then also natural disasters.

[174] and then also the absolute fact that 90 plus percent of everything that has ever lived ever is extinct.

[175] Right.

[176] So this guy's idea of reintroducing.

[177] Don't want to kill nothing.

[178] Don't want to let nothing die.

[179] We are the ultimate pussy arrogant fuckers that are building golf courses and deserts.

[180] It's crazy.

[181] Well, the wolf thing is so fascinating.

[182] Well, then, okay, so there's both sides of that.

[183] Yeah.

[184] I've heard both, like, it's awesome that we have wolves again there.

[185] And then I've heard people are like, this is really the decimation of an environment.

[186] Like, this changed the environment and the topographical.

[187] uh makeup of yellowstone so much that we were retarding growth in a lot of ways or all like i mean anytime you're to do something there's an alteration but like is it for the good or the bad like well it's good for some species it's really good for some birds it's really good for uh some a lot of different kinds of plants and trees it's really good for trees because yellowstone had such a huge population of deer and elk and bison and all these different animals they were just eating shit out of all the grass and the trees got thicker and they grew taller like within six years they they grew much much taller it's part of the uh the ted talk this guy gave and the root system got stronger because the root system got stronger the path of the rivers was was yeah changed and it was it's crazy it's really really intense so it is good for some animal it's not good for the elk and for the deer but but did they take those anyways would rangers go out and be like, we need to take 50 deer out this year, or like there's no hunting?

[188] I don't think there's any hunting, but they do in certain circumstances in places where there's no hunting.

[189] They will bring in people to kill the population if it gets too high.

[190] And pick what...

[191] Yeah, but the solution to that is allow hunters to go into Yellowstone.

[192] But the problem with that, of course, is that Yellowstone's a national park, or people are out there hiking and shit.

[193] You don't want Yahoo's out there shooting guns.

[194] That's why I think you'd just have rangers and you'd be like, this section is closed, and make sure there's no campers, go through it, all that.

[195] Yeah.

[196] It's hard, though.

[197] I mean, you think about how many animals an animal can give birth to, and if there's no wolves, like, that's the other thing about hunting.

[198] One of the things you realize is how much woods there really are.

[199] How deep.

[200] Everyone's talking about the human beings have absolutely taken over big parts of this country.

[201] Southern California.

[202] I mean, you go around Los Angeles area, like the wildlife that used to be here has all been pushed out.

[203] But there's still areas that are insanely wild And Yellowstone is one of them I mean there's a lot of wilderness out there When I fly from here to New Mexico It's like fly over New Mexico and tell me like There's just no land anymore It's like there's fucking no people living anywhere In most of that state Like it's just that it's not something happening And there's a fucking mountain lion That stalked and hunted one of my friends In Hollywood In the Hollywood Hills She was at a party For like Fourth of July or something parked your car on a little cul -de -sac house that people are gone on vacation some really rich folks up in the hills she walks down and she and two friends and fucking rahr and there's a fucking mountain line that's there in a cul -de -sac the mountain line's here and it's there's nowhere to go there's a fence into the fucking crazy story so anyway she ends up yelling at it scaring at jumping on top of this Audi or some car that was there that was parked there screaming at it and then that stopped stopped it from advancing, but still I was like, what sounds did it make?

[204] And she's like, oh, it was like a beast from a movie.

[205] It was crazy.

[206] Just talking to her.

[207] But you would think that if that was the case, it might have been cornered.

[208] And it was, but it wasn't.

[209] It was cornering them.

[210] Yeah, but why would it corner them and just growl at them?

[211] Like a big cat would be stealthy.

[212] No idea.

[213] But made itself known.

[214] She jumped the fence, tried to break the windows of the house.

[215] Whoa.

[216] Got a 911 callout.

[217] It was sketchy service thanks a lot at t and t and uh and uh so i switched to verizon AT &T they're just not reliable mountain lines hunting friends they're like where when i went to switch it too they go they go well were you using your phone in a high in a in a high traffic zone like i'm like a high traffic zone i'm like are you just telling me you oversold your system and that like i can only call at certain times because you charged me every minute of the fucking day anyway i digress um and then the phone call dropped it was awesome i was in the verizon store i was like the phone call dropped to the AT &T guy while you're in the Verizon store and that's adorable and the AT &T guy goes um no my battery went dead i'm like motherfucker you're in you're the tech geek like you know your shit is bunk you know in the street your friends laughed they're like oh you sling that AT &T shit like you know that's fuck off come on just tell me it's funny you know it's funny he's like no i don't understand what you mean sir i'm like i can't even talk that's baby powder cut cocaine son come on stop all that stop all that shit anyway the lion was tagged oh yeah so That's why she didn't get charged with, like, an attempted breaking and entering and all this shit from the security cameras on the people's house.

[218] Because they knew where the line was.

[219] Yeah, the lion fucking was down.

[220] I'm like, so you got tagged lions that are in high density population, like right in downtown Hollywood.

[221] Yeah, we're super, super arrogant about mountain lines.

[222] Oh, man. In California, you can't hunt mountain lines.

[223] They're not hunted.

[224] Right.

[225] So because of that, their population is skyrocketed.

[226] In this place that I'm going to, the Tahone Ranch, there's one waterhole that they have where they took pictures of 16 different mountain lines.

[227] I mean, they have a massive population of animals up there because it's 270 ,000 acres.

[228] Whose ranch is it?

[229] It's privately owned.

[230] Uh -huh.

[231] Privately owned giant ranch, and they, it's just huge.

[232] And there's nothing going on up there other than hunting and some, you know, I think they have a water pipeline goes through it and a bunch of other ways they make money off the ranch.

[233] But it's not like there's a lot of people there.

[234] Right.

[235] It's very, very few people go in and out of the ranch.

[236] So these fucking cats are the run of the line.

[237] land and there's elk up there and there's deer up there and there's a lot of pigs up there and they just party.

[238] I want to put go -pros on them all.

[239] Like you met like a fucking stalking, like be badass.

[240] Why do I think someone did something like that recently?

[241] They put a GoPro on something.

[242] Those park rangers, they're not fulfilling their fucking need.

[243] If they're not dart those things, put gopros on them and let's watch.

[244] Well, how long were the battery last up?

[245] I don't know, man. They need to get Tesla in there, figure it out.

[246] Let's go, Elon.

[247] Do something for this world.

[248] you've got a battery that will never fucking disintegrate and that we're going to keep around forever that's polluting the environment for sure but you can't get that on a mountain lion come on use it for my entertainment at least I think that there's going to be in the future there's going to be batteries that just don't run out of juice like we're going to look back 100 years from now they're going to laugh at us piles of batteries and landfills hopefully we get to the place where we can be laughed at hopefully if we make it right and that's the thing is I think we get Just smart enough.

[249] I mean, he say it all the time.

[250] Just smart enough to where we can go ahead and have our own destruction because of our progress.

[251] Because we won't stop progress.

[252] It's like, it's a weird thing.

[253] It's like that thing.

[254] I think Duncan was talking about that Elon must put $10 million towards like this is going to guard us in the future against the rise of the machines type shit.

[255] Well, yeah, he wanted to stop artificial intelligence.

[256] Well, he wants to protect us or at least analyze artificial intelligence.

[257] That's the thing is like any pro, show me where progress got halted.

[258] it's like progress it just spurts it's like a weed you know my hope is my hope about progress is they figure out a way to make no residue like that no footprint well not like there's no waste like the idea of like right now we create pollution right but we had that how did we have that did you ever read uh that goddamn book um about food anyway and and it talked it surveyed three different meals and one was like a fast food meal another was like an all organic home cook meal another was a meal that like you made everything like you made the flour you harvested the yeast you did all that kind of stuff and uh it was the omnivore's dilemma was the name of it and and like farms used to be like that like you'd have some sheep and some pigs and some chickens and they would shit all over here and you'd be growing wheat or corn or whatever over here then they'd move over here and then you'd move your crops over here and so you had a continual fertilization and self -utilized farm.

[259] And then we moved all the animals off the farm and put them in feedlots.

[260] And then now we just grow one crop over and over again.

[261] So we need to have...

[262] Yeah, but even if they're doing that, you're still using farm equipment.

[263] The farm equipment had to be built somewhere.

[264] Sure.

[265] The construction materials, there's residue, there's waste.

[266] There's all sorts of pollution that comes out of the machines themselves.

[267] There's some people that are trying to.

[268] to figure out a way how to take carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and utilize it, how to take waste, like all the different waste products that people create with all the different things that we do, whether it's making computers or whether it's driving buses or, and figure out a way to turn that waste into something profitable or into something useful.

[269] It has to be hella profitable.

[270] Well, it'd have to be hell of useful, too, right?

[271] Like, that's the idea behind this, the plastic island in the ocean.

[272] Right.

[273] How do you utilize that?

[274] Yeah, it's not really an island.

[275] People, people get mad if you call it an island.

[276] Because you can't build a house on it?

[277] Exactly.

[278] You can't sell real estate there.

[279] We can't live on that.

[280] So fuck you.

[281] It's not that.

[282] All right.

[283] I figured it made its own environment, though.

[284] Like, what do we call it?

[285] It's a floating shit.

[286] Floating shit, like the size of Texas.

[287] They don't even know how big it is, really.

[288] It's like, dude, that's disputed too.

[289] I like how all the plastic finds each other.

[290] Everybody wants community, even plastic.

[291] You know what I mean?

[292] I think that's beautiful.

[293] It is beautiful.

[294] It's like a love story.

[295] Plastic, a love story.

[296] Plastic, beloved.

[297] a new show right there.

[298] That should be one of those little 15 -minute shorts before you watch a kid's movie.

[299] You know what, dude, that's what I need to do.

[300] Fuck all this other shit.

[301] I need to get a job with like Chevron or something or the plastic companies, and I'll be the guy that goes out there.

[302] I remember when we were filming two guns and I was like in Louisiana and that fucking they just fucked up the whole golf.

[303] It's like way to go.

[304] Oh, you were there when that happened?

[305] It was right after that.

[306] So it was just to smell it?

[307] No, I didn't go down that.

[308] It wasn't like that right there.

[309] I wasn't on the shores, but like.

[310] How far away were you?

[311] We're in New Orleans.

[312] And how far away is that from them water?

[313] I don't know.

[314] Not that far, right?

[315] The river runs out into it and all that.

[316] So you didn't smell anything crazy?

[317] But I mean, no more.

[318] I mean, no one of them smells fucking weird.

[319] There's a lot of new smells to me. It smells like, it's like I went to Bourbon Street and I was like, this is just like, and they got everybody at Walmart hammered and brought a party bus and dropped them off.

[320] And that's what Bourbon Street's like.

[321] It's a trip.

[322] Burbin Street's awesome.

[323] It's fucking crazy.

[324] I love it.

[325] And then it feels like you walk back all through that quarter and you're like, it's all misty and shit, and you're like, this is like where Jack the Ripper lives.

[326] Like, it's fucking eerie as fuck back there.

[327] And there's tranny hookers and fucking all kinds of darkness all through there.

[328] It's a trip.

[329] There's a lot of darkness.

[330] BP is doing all this shit, and they're going, look at what we've done to help.

[331] And like, I could be one of those spin doctors for the, for the plastic guys.

[332] Look at the love and plastic.

[333] It was adorable.

[334] It was awesome.

[335] I was like, I really believe these guys.

[336] These are great commercials.

[337] Look what we've done to help.

[338] Even though we've dumped millions.

[339] millions of gallons.

[340] It's like Halliburton.

[341] They could be like, look at all these dead Iraqis.

[342] And they'd be, look at what we've done to help.

[343] And then they could show them Baghdad like five years ago and Baghdad now.

[344] And it's a little different.

[345] It's like, it used to be like New York City.

[346] Now it's caves.

[347] Well, what we're trying to do is we start from scratch and then do it right this time.

[348] Go back to the cave people and do it right.

[349] You know, that is one of the arguments that historians use.

[350] Like, it's in the beginning of Dan Carlin's hardcore.

[351] history series on the Mongols.

[352] Did you listen to that?

[353] You know he's talking about Hitler?

[354] In the beginning of the thing, he was talking about how the way people talk about Genghis Khan today, they say that he opened up the trade routes with China and all the things, they try to put a positive spin on what he did.

[355] But the reason why they could do that is because it was a thousand years ago.

[356] Right.

[357] But if they try to do that about Hitler, it's too soon.

[358] He's like, it's an interesting thing that people do when it comes to history.

[359] Hashtag.

[360] Hashtag too soon.

[361] Hitler, hashtag too soon.

[362] Hashtag blessed.

[363] Yeah, every revolution starts with a fight.

[364] Yeah.

[365] I learned that today on the UFC promo for Rhonda and Holly.

[366] You know, have you seen the thing that they've done?

[367] Well, actually, I can't talk about it.

[368] I don't think it's kind of public.

[369] I cried.

[370] I cried when I saw it.

[371] It was so good.

[372] They're doing great fucking promo work for that for Holly and Rhonda's fight.

[373] Oh, the one with those.

[374] And it shows them as little girls coming up.

[375] Oh, you did see that one.

[376] Did you cry?

[377] Oh, dude, you know what brought it on is when Holly as a little girl is sitting in church and all the, and the people are looking at her.

[378] Because she's got a black eye.

[379] And it looks up and she's got a black eye and she kind of gives that smile.

[380] And I'm like, and what made me cry is like the pride of a black eye, like that people don't have.

[381] You know what?

[382] Like there's not a lot of people that will know what that is, like to be proud.

[383] Like she worked for that black eye.

[384] You know what I mean?

[385] Well, people would look at a girl with a black eye and think that she got beat by her man. Could be.

[386] That's what a lot of people think.

[387] I don't think that way.

[388] I don't see color, Joe.

[389] That's not a color thing, dude.

[390] I think that's a male -female.

[391] It's a gender thing.

[392] Could be.

[393] I'm just not that aggressive.

[394] It is a funny thing.

[395] Why you laugh, Jamie.

[396] It is a funny thing, man. If you train a lot and you have a black eye, it's kind of a badge of courage.

[397] Hell yeah.

[398] It's like cauliflower here.

[399] Somebody asked me what the fuck was wrong with my ear.

[400] I'm like, what's wrong with yours?

[401] Punk.

[402] It's a man's shit, son.

[403] When I, one time I had a, like, a serious black.

[404] I actually had two black eyes, and I was on Fear Factor.

[405] And I was like, look, just let me do the show with Black Eyes.

[406] Who gives a shit?

[407] Right.

[408] They brought in it, because I didn't wear makeup on Fear Factor, but during that I did.

[409] They brought in a makeup artist, a spray person.

[410] They sprayed under my eye.

[411] So crazy back then how people don't want to be authentic.

[412] They're like, we can't have this be real.

[413] We need to have it look a certain way, the way we think of him to look.

[414] It's like, how about you just, I look like me. It's great.

[415] It's like all that shit about the camera puts on 10 pounds or whatever.

[416] Motherfucker, it makes you look exactly like.

[417] you are you're not happy with that don't be so fat i don't know what to tell you i've never understood that camera puts on 10 pounds thing i look in the mirror i look at myself on camera right it's exactly the same real similar it's the same how does a camera put on 10 pounds what it where is that coming from so good is that like the old cameras maybe so maybe like them old with some kind of flex lens maybe like a circus lens maybe it's like before they had HD fucking funny man you know when I was on news radio it's just people are pussies and they'll make any excuse to not have it be real like it's not my fault i don't i don't need to be accountable for that it's well i'm in really good shape yeah it's just this i wasn't my eight one time in eighty two have a gut when i was on news radio it was uh right when they were introducing hd cameras and i'll tell you man actresses were shit in their pants really it was crazy yeah they were taught like they'd have conversations in the makeup room like we're going to need a lot more of this once the ht cameras come holy they were all scared because you can have a girl that's makeup people like to be scared anyway they like to create a drama wasn't the makeup people it was the actresses yeah but they were um those are of sound mind sound mind well stable women they knew that they looked better on tv than they did in real life you look at david caruso and oh jesus or in real life it's like holy fuck in real life he looks like a zombie dude and a hundred six yeah at least a hundred six hundred six with like a great diet real crib keeper shit yeah yeah he swings kettlebells does he no that guy's like Is he a smoker?

[418] Is that what's going on?

[419] He looks like he must be.

[420] But he's also red -headed.

[421] He's got that Bill Burr's shit.

[422] But Bill Burr looks great.

[423] It looks really good.

[424] He looks healthy as fuck.

[425] He's got the funniest thing, too, about faceless.

[426] Like, he's like, I'd rather look like, he's like, he's like, I'd rather look like a 40 -year -old guy than a 29 -year -old lizard.

[427] He's like, it's clear they don't have that shit worked out.

[428] What are you doing?

[429] Pulling your face straight like that.

[430] That is weird, man. There's this lady at my daughter's gymnastics class who's got Monster Face.

[431] I call it monster face When those poor ladies They do their lips And then they shoot rubber Into their face To fucking fill it up And then they pull that bitch back And then she's monster face Like you look at it You go oh Jesus Like you can't like But meanwhile She's right next to a 70 year old lady Who looks fine You look at her You go hello How you doing Like you don't get weirded out at all You're just looking at an older woman That ageism is a weird thing And the self -talk That people do is like It's a fucking trip Like what people run from in that way.

[432] It is.

[433] Well, it just feels like...

[434] But then they don't do the shit they would really do it.

[435] It's like, don't you want to move well all the time?

[436] Don't you want to fucking, like be able -bodied and all...

[437] No, no, no, but I could get some surgery to do something.

[438] Like, fuck.

[439] Well, they just want to look good.

[440] Right.

[441] Like, there's some people that look good until their face moves.

[442] Like, they can convince themselves they look good because they're, like, look good in the mirror and then everything looks okay as long as they stay still.

[443] Yeah.

[444] But once they start talking, and you go, hey, your fucking cheeks aren't moving, man. Right.

[445] Right.

[446] One time we were in the green room.

[447] No facial expression.

[448] We were in the green room and the improv.

[449] And Brea, and this, remember when Joan Rivers and her daughter had like a reality show?

[450] And I was high as fuck.

[451] And you're wondering, who do I want to fuck more, Joan or her daughter?

[452] No, no, no. Oh.

[453] That's how neither one of those were an option.

[454] But I was looking, we were really, really high.

[455] It was me and Diaz, and you know how that goes.

[456] Yeah.

[457] So we're in the green room.

[458] And we're looking up at the screen.

[459] and I couldn't I was freaked out I mean just like nervous and terrified at Joan Rivers face because her face was like a rubber kabuki mask it's absolutely as if when you're looking and you're like it looks like somebody's about to explode it looks like there's an impending something happening and you're not sure what but it's like it's so fucking not right it I don't well it just looked frozen it looked like frozen and rubber and weird and she died getting operated on right it wasn't plastic surgery though I don't think it was plastic surgery.

[460] Isn't that how Kanye's mom died too?

[461] I think so.

[462] Yes, I think she died from plastic surgery.

[463] Anesthesia going under for, yeah.

[464] Yeah, that's so...

[465] That going under is no bullshit.

[466] It's weird that we live in such an advanced society, but they're like, just putting people to sleep, we might kill them, don't know.

[467] It's so rare, though.

[468] It's, you have to be a poor health to go on.

[469] I've gone under a bunch of times for surgeries.

[470] I mean, I've had both my knees done, one knee twice, my nose done.

[471] I've got a lot of shit fixed, and they just put you under in their front.

[472] Like, you never hear of a fighter done.

[473] when they go under it's usually older people or people that are in poor health maybe what have you had done my knee my shoulder three times damn yeah your shoulder done three times yeah i was overachiever i uh they did an art they scoped it first and then i ripped that one out and then they did another one where it was a real aggressive thing they changed my anatomy around in that shoulder what does that mean they like your bicep head goes in and they cut off the bone where it goes in on one of them, and they moved it and screwed it in underneath to be like a physical block so it wouldn't dislocate, which then you fast forward 15 years later, and I was having a lot of AC joint hurt, like trouble, and there's just rubbing together.

[474] And so this other doctor, he goes in, and he's going to clean that up, and he says it'll be great, awesome.

[475] He looks at my x -rays.

[476] He goes, oh, my God, who did this to you?

[477] And I go, it's not very encouraging.

[478] What do you mean?

[479] He goes, just nobody ethically would change your anatomy.

[480] me like that like that's and i was like it was a cutting -edge shit at michigan state university fucking 15 years ago like i don't know so anyway but it's been solid since then it's that's my good shoulder so that guy do it again uh that guy just cleaned up my ac joint that was not for surgery so when they clean it up like what do they do like i know my friend melissa from the ufc she just had her shoulder done she has uh i think they shave it they put some kind of fake synovial fluid maybe back in it they try to influence uh cartilage growth perhaps hers was bone growth like when you have like any sort of an issue like a lot of arthritis and rubbing like oh you see that a lot on a lot in spinal stenosis around the spinal columns you'll see growth like on the edges of the spine of the discs yeah they well not on the disc itself but on the hard pieces the spine you know the disc is stuff in between the spine and the um what do they call those things what's the spine bone what's a bone I think we did spine bone spine bone yeah I know this is what you're talking about the disc is the your backbone the disc is in between that there's a semi permeable like pumice crete type of deal that's the mushy stuff yeah and that's the stuff that cushions everything right and the bone around it when it's vertebrae thank you god damn it very much Jamie I knew there was a word how do I want and remember that seems like that's in my lexicon but I've had a rough day I've been running around but the um the edge as your discs get smaller if they if you're losing disc degeneration right and by the way a lot of doctors will start to tell people that it's disc degener degeneration disease and they'll let you know that oh it's a disease you don't have to worry about it right it's use it's use it's not a disease for the most part it's most of the time when they say that what it is is you've been abusing your body because i've talked to a bunch of fighters and they'll say well it's disgeneration just disdegeneration disease I'm like, oh, well, it has nothing to do with you fucking headbutting dudes 100 miles an hour, like shooting for doubles and running into people's hips.

[481] Getting suplexed over and over again or even tossed or whatever.

[482] This isn't a disease.

[483] This isn't herpes.

[484] Concussion.

[485] Yeah, this is, you're beating the fuck out of your body, man. But the edges, they develop like bone spurs.

[486] Like the bone tries to grow and almost like your bone is trying to fill in the area where it knows the spinal disc isn't there anymore.

[487] It's weird how your body fights for homeostasis no matter what, like going into that.

[488] That's like they said in my shoulder.

[489] There's no scar tissue in this one.

[490] That's probably what keeps it from getting dislocated.

[491] The scar tissue keeps it in place.

[492] I got to get on that stem cell shit.

[493] Dude, stem cell shit is the best.

[494] Vegas.

[495] You still got to give me that guy's info.

[496] Oh, yeah.

[497] Well, that's Dr. Davidson from the UFC is the one who connected me with the people.

[498] But, dude, they've done a bunch of people.

[499] now.

[500] A bunch of UFC people have staggering results.

[501] Yeah, you were saying Roy Nelson did his knee or?

[502] Cormier.

[503] Daniel Cormier did his knee.

[504] Stem cells.

[505] If I were those guys, aka, I would just do every joint.

[506] I'd just, even if there's no problem, I'd be like, if he were the coach, you'd like, just get in there and just do it.

[507] Well, that's what Ludwig did.

[508] Preemptively?

[509] Yep, preemptively.

[510] Got both his shoulders done.

[511] I think he did his hips, too.

[512] Dude, I can't imagine the, fuck.

[513] He's such a savage.

[514] And to hold nits for somebody like that old.

[515] Like him, like Winklejohn should do that too like you beat the fuck out of yourself brandon gipson all those guys you're professional mitt holder you need to do that that's worse than fighting yeah yeah for your shoulder joint health that's horrible especially if you're holding mitts for some fucking for fucking john jones yeah come on well john jones hits hard but like imagine like like like Travis Brown yeah balasquez or Travis Brown yeah allister olster yeah especially alster when he was on the sauce I don't know that that's true or not I believe it's true I think it was proven I believe it was proven I don't know what you're saying He was suspended All that shit is so dumb That drug shit Fucking stupid You know when I was in high school I had to write a paper And the paper that I wrote Was that you should legalize every drug And I was all That sounds like the kind of thing A 14 year old right I was all hyped up on NWA and gangster rap And I was like How in the fuck did EZE get a Uzi Like he doesn't look like Anybody that should have a Uzi that's true it's because he can sell and the black market is the only thing that makes crime I'm like why do we have a black if they want to but that's the thing is like and not everybody's all fucking excited about marijuana being you're all twats everybody's a fucking pussy you're out there like oh look at wake and smoke a joint on CNN well guess what you still got fucking 500 ,000 guys that are locked up you should be protesting that every fucking day if pot's really actually legal like in those states they should just be letting dudes out by the fucking dozens every minute that is true can you imagine you imagine if you're in Colorado and you're in jail for selling weed.

[516] I'll be like, what in the fuck?

[517] What in the fuck?

[518] And then how many of those guys are in there?

[519] And then they fucking catch a real case in there because now you've got a fighter, you're in a riot.

[520] Fuck.

[521] It's horrible.

[522] That does happen.

[523] That does happen.

[524] All that shit should be legal.

[525] The only thing that, and people are like, well, if they do just tax it, everybody's like, if they just tax it, the government.

[526] But that's on the idea that the government gives a fuck.

[527] The government, I mean, it makes more money.

[528] It's not like if I can tax you who wants to buy weed.

[529] I want to have, how do I tax everybody?

[530] I make them all scared and then I imprison guys for this illegality.

[531] And then I can get the public dollars because look it, isn't it scary that we got these black and Mexican guys that are selling dope and we need to put them somewhere.

[532] Well, that's a business.

[533] That's a huge business, the whole business and that's why.

[534] Well, that's a business though.

[535] There's another business.

[536] The other business is legal marijuana where you make more money from tax dollars from legal marijuana.

[537] In Colorado, yes, they do.

[538] And this year in Colorado they made more money from tax dollars from marijuana they did from alcohol for the first time ever okay but what I would love to see very high what I want to see then is those numbers versus all the public and federal money that comes from taxpayers that goes into law enforcement whether it's at sheriff drug enforcement levels DEA levels FBI like all the different funding which is fucking huge and all the prison shit like where's all the so all the public tax dollars show me the the taxing on pot is more than that and I would agree.

[539] Well, it's not more than that now.

[540] I bet it's dwarfed.

[541] I bet you're right.

[542] I bet you're right.

[543] Well, drug enforcement is weird because you're looking at a blanket.

[544] You know, you're looking at pills.

[545] You're looking at heroin, coke.

[546] The marijuana drug enforcement.

[547] Legal.

[548] Legal.

[549] Make it all legal.

[550] Yeah.

[551] Well, make it all legal.

[552] And at least you're going to get taxes from stuff that's already being sold anyway.

[553] And then you can use that money for education, use that money for treatment.

[554] But the people that are in law enforcement, the problem with the law enforcement when it comes to drugs it's like they're fucking lobbying to keep shit illegal.

[555] Yeah, they don't want it.

[556] They don't want it legally.

[557] They don't.

[558] And why would you?

[559] And then when you've got, I believe it's the biggest union in the, maybe in the world, but in the country as the correctional prison guards.

[560] Yeah, so you got prison guards.

[561] I don't know if it's the biggest, but they lobby, they're one of the biggest contributors for drug legal, keeping drugs illegal.

[562] They lobby hard to make sure that drugs stay illegal.

[563] Because it keeps them in jobs.

[564] But you know what, man, You just got to figure out alternatives for those people.

[565] Do you think people that are prison guards want to be fucking prison guards?

[566] If you could find some sort of a positive job.

[567] If you could, but I bet a lot of those guys are like, I'm in power over some fucking bad motherfuckers, and they like that.

[568] Their just consciousness is fucked up because they're like, well, because if you got that job, you're a prisoner.

[569] Yeah.

[570] I mean, you are a prisoner all day.

[571] You know what I mean?

[572] You've just chosen to be a prisoner and you think you're free.

[573] You're fucked.

[574] You're a head guy.

[575] You just don't know.

[576] And so it's a guy that's kind of got that.

[577] that kind of consciousness to where he doesn't even know he's fucked.

[578] Can you imagine the fucking feeling that you must get?

[579] Like, they shut those gates behind you, and you're working with all those people that are in there for a life, and you've got to go home at night, and then you're going to go home at night, and you can quit and leave anytime you want, but your work environment is filled with all these people that are just doomed.

[580] They're doomed.

[581] Occasionally they arrive.

[582] Yeah.

[583] I watched that Freeway Rick Ross documentary last week, and I thought, man, that is crazy.

[584] Like, you're like, you know, like more money than anything like you could you're living a life that like is is like if bill gates had an exciting life like type like whatever you wanted to do any any any vacations any anything and then you go into nothing a prison and then you come out and he's just like printing t -shirts or whatever he's trying to do and trying to stay straight he's just trying to hustle fuck yeah he does like speeches and does a bunch of different shit but he's just trying to hustle and stay straight it's it's hard man it's also crazy because he went in and he was making all that money millions and millions of dollars and he couldn't read millions a day yeah millions a day couldn't read yeah and then figured out how to read then figured out how to fucking read the law books and then figured out that his case was bullshit yeah and then got it overturned because he was in the he was under the three strikes law yeah but they tried to try him said it was an ongoing criminal enterprise not a not a uh or whatever it's like it was one robbing spree that it that it wasn't secular events is how he did it like so they were saying I know Ohio's a separate thing.

[585] And he's like, no, because I was on a continuous criminal spree.

[586] Like, my whole life was a continuous criminal spree.

[587] Well, the three -strike thing, they tried him for two things at the same time.

[588] Uh -huh.

[589] And it's not how it works.

[590] You're supposed to go away, and then they catch you again, and you go away, and then they catch you again that three strikes.

[591] But they tried to do it for him with more than one different thing tagged on to one arrest.

[592] Right.

[593] And that's not how it works.

[594] Oh, and then they planted a bunch of shit on them.

[595] They just wanted to put him in a bunch of him.

[596] jail to win that's the thing it's weird that they let him out it's weird that that worked like that's well it worked because he was right yeah but the the problem i've been talking about this a lot i think the problem with law enforcement in general like one of the big problems is that people want to win when people get into game they get it whether it's jujitsu or it's fucking ping pong you want to win or like the drug testers like they're not looking they're not wanting you to have i mean that's not true some guys probably are but they're not looking for you to have a free tester like i want to catch this dirty guy and they see all the guys is dirty you know what I mean yeah but I mean that's the hustle right that's that's what they're trying to do they're trying to catch people cheating so they want to look at this motherfucker like every day you're playing a game and the game is catch the guy with the rubber dick do you think they should oh the wizzinator yeah yeah Jeff Monson made that famous did he yeah he got busted a word of those first guy that I know that I'd heard about a whizanator with well those guys are fucking I think all that shit should be legal too like when they do gene splicing or whatever the fuck is next that they're going to do like they're going to have mild statin inhibitors and all that kind of stuff you're going to have a thing if all these fucking useless fucking nerds that are regulating this shit are like we want to have clean athletes whatever okay so you're going to have a crowd of fucking people at the mGM that are all in way better shape and condition than the actual fucking fighters that are competing that is for sure when that does happen when that does happen we're going to have to have a totally new conversation because I think right now what's going on is they're just trying to prevent the first drips of water that are coming out of that dam and they're putting their fingers in it it's like stopping the you know stopping the rise of the machines Elon Musk you're not going to do it it's common it's common what are you going to do in the rise of the museum in New Mexico I just roll baby you're going to go to just roll I'll ride it out you know how do this I'll survive we'll tell me how we do this I have freestyle I don't know I can't plan I can't plan let's get a ranch we've been talking about that for a decade let's do it All right.

[597] Come on, man. We both have money.

[598] What state?

[599] You're making some bank now.

[600] I see you in the movies.

[601] Every time I fucking watch an action movie, I see you get shot.

[602] I'm in Sicario right now.

[603] Are you in that one?

[604] I heard that's dope.

[605] I heard that's dope.

[606] I'm like, can anybody speak Spanish?

[607] I'm like...

[608] Right here, bitch.

[609] Well, I looked around.

[610] There's four of us, and I looked around, and there was a fucking bunch of Chicano dudes in me. And I was like, well, one of these guys first.

[611] And none of them raised their hand.

[612] I'm like, boom.

[613] And then I got on my tax to fucking, uh, uh, uh, uh, the guy that coaches jih Tzu for us at 10th Planet in Santa Fe, and I'm like, hey, Rubin, how do I say?

[614] Get on one of those fucking.

[615] Through text.

[616] I, uh, yeah.

[617] Through text?

[618] Through text?

[619] He fucking, I'm like, you dude, you got to write it out phonetically.

[620] I don't need to know the real, this has got to sound right.

[621] You just got to get one of those rosetta stones.

[622] And then I just practiced over and over.

[623] It was in the moment.

[624] It was like going to film 20 minutes later.

[625] Oh, shit.

[626] It was like right then.

[627] They're like, hey, we want to add this scene in.

[628] It was awesome.

[629] Oh, shit.

[630] It's a little known secret.

[631] Don't tell anybody.

[632] Too late.

[633] That's awesome.

[634] I love that.

[635] Yeah, dude.

[636] I just make shit happen.

[637] You know what I mean?

[638] Like that's why I say I just freestyle that shit.

[639] Like how it's going to work?

[640] It's like the whole movie thing and going, how did this happen?

[641] I'm like, fuck, I don't know.

[642] And I try to ask you.

[643] I'm like, do I need an agent or you're like, fuck, I don't know.

[644] And you know, one of the best things that I've heard about it is fucking Polly Shore.

[645] And he goes, he was at the - Polly Shore gave you advice?

[646] No, he was giving advice to like three other little.

[647] actors like Benji and a couple people that were comics at the at the store and he goes uh you know the truth is is nobody knows how to do it and i and i just took that and i go okay fuck everybody everybody that tell you how to do it they never done it all those people are coaching acting or they're doing whatever and i'm like i'm just going to run with this and fucking do it and i'll show up and i see the guys that are there and i'm like well i don't know that i'm great but i know i'm better than that guy and uh but you also have an unusual look i do you know i do i've been told that a lot And now it's paying off.

[648] But, you know, you're a big giant dude.

[649] You got a crazy beard.

[650] You know, you know how to fight.

[651] I give all these skills, handsome as fuck.

[652] Intelligent, speak well.

[653] Green -eyed devil.

[654] You look great.

[655] Got a lot going on.

[656] Well, all that came.

[657] And then I just kept, you know, I always used to live, like, thinking other shoes about to drop, right?

[658] Like, for a long time.

[659] And I thought, it's just not going to end up good.

[660] And because, like, I didn't correlate that my actions were getting my results in a lot of ways you know and uh and i think you know a big part of that is just being accountable for your life like a guy told me he says you know why you're all fucked up and i go why and he's like because you think you're a good guy because you base yourself on your intentions and the whole world is reacting to your actions and i was like well don't they know that i'm thinking i intended and i'm like none of that you know if you step on a dude's shoes and you didn't you didn't mean to his shoes are still fucking dirty and uh and so like just bringing all that shit into my everyday and I think the whole thing more and more that I think about is heightening awareness and the more you are aware the less dumb you are and the less dumb you are the better off you do that's a really good point you can train yourself to be more aware you know yes you can and it happens all the time and you don't just get it but you get layers of it you know yeah layers is the whole that's a great way of putting it the whole way you just said it is a great way of putting it the I think a lot of people think that they're a good person right they'll do douchey shit or they're try to get away with something because they're hustling, they're broke, and, you know, they're fucking self -reflection.

[661] It's that constant self -reflection.

[662] And people are like, well, how are you successful or whatever?

[663] And I'm like, because I'm a loser.

[664] You know, like, I remember talking with you and you're like, I always felt like a loser too, like when we would go on the road and shit and you're like, you know, because I'm living a life that's different than other people are living.

[665] I'm not a nine to five guy or whatever the thing is, you know?

[666] And so you're living this life that's out of the norm.

[667] And it's like, and thank God you get to be an uncommon man in that way.

[668] the other way would have killed me and you and Eddie and Ari and you know what I mean and Duncan and you look at all that and I go that's no fucking mistake that we're all doing well happy positive and I go man I owe everything just to the people that I've chosen to have around me that's a people that I've been graced about in my life huge huge part of your life huge man and you also you get power when your friends are doing well like when I see you in movies I get power yeah you know when I see you in John Wick I got I got power from that I was like, ooh.

[669] We all, it's like an encourage, it's like, how do you stay inspired?

[670] Do you stay around inspirational people?

[671] You know, I mean, and that, and that's the thing for me. And so, like, whether it's the gym I work out at or, or, you know, what I'm putting in my body or anything, like, who I'm living.

[672] Like, all that shit matters, man. Where I'm living, I used to live in Hancock Park, and then I moved to Venice.

[673] And I'm like, all my people are in Venice and I want to be near the ocean.

[674] And, like, fucking, that's a different vibe down there.

[675] It's a different vibe.

[676] It's a different vibe.

[677] It's so nice, man. It's like more relaxing.

[678] It's like being in New Mexico.

[679] for me so i'll jam next to each other though i don't like the the crowdedness of that's why i could never look at look at like new york i'm only at like deuce jim the place where i work out at and train a lot is like i know where that is outdoors and right across the great spot i'm just there posted up we do podcast there fuck around like it's rad it's fucking nice and then everything's walking distance is that your friends gym do you know yeah yeah yeah yeah and so you live up near there yeah just like i don't know that's a nice area is a lot of good restaurants and a lot of great huge man if you had a place to park your car you know what though parking's better than hollywood it beats the shit out of parking in hollywood that's true but hollywood is so ridiculous and you can walk like my favorite restaurants are like clutch on lincoln and then oscars down on rose yeah and those are just both five minutes from anywhere like it's easy or there's a great uh italian restaurant in washington too that is like there's a lot of good places down there like you said and uh and there's always valet you know fuck you're valet if you're you're fucking you just got to drive the right car you can't drive your car i have a pickup truck i'm a goddamn american i don't have jo rogan money yet i didn't have my you know what the who does this is it too man okay my pat like i've got so after breaking bad i did i got some money off of that and i was and then at that same time a friend of mine from new mexico this guy rico taylor he calls and he goes hey dude i'm i'm uh and he was best friends with my friend marcos who started Nuevo with me. And so, Nuevo, so, like, everybody I fuck with is all people that I love and that I've been tied into for a long time and everybody's doing good.

[680] It's rad.

[681] But he just picked up a Lambo because he's like, and he goes, he goes, hey, is it realistic that I get, uh, I put 60 down on it and I'll pay, I don't know if it's four grand a month or something.

[682] And, um, you know, does that sound reasonable to you?

[683] And I'm like, fuck, no, it doesn't sound, that's crazy.

[684] $4 ,000 is an apartment.

[685] like, my house is it, Like, what the fuck?

[686] That's a mortgage.

[687] That's an apartment in New York City.

[688] But I go, you're 33 years old, and you can fucking do that and be, fuck, yes, do that.

[689] Live an unreasonable life.

[690] Do that thing.

[691] So when I got that money, what happened with that was it seeded these bars, concrete cowboy.

[692] And so we got one in Austin.

[693] We got one in Houston.

[694] In five weeks, we'll open.

[695] We got one in Dallas.

[696] And it's paid back like six times what we invested.

[697] But I gave that money going, I don't have any more money in the world.

[698] And fuck it.

[699] I've been broke before.

[700] Here's my money.

[701] and fucking I knew that Rico would take care of it I knew he'd be a good steward of it and if it didn't work it didn't work and whatever and like that being free about it and like I did a couple things like it made me go the money is not you it doesn't matter like that's a replaceable commodity that's nothing and and also it's like I've been rolling the dice my whole life so let's roll the dice and then we fucking just started taking off with that and then three years later motherfuckers driving a Lamborghini fucking rad dude it's rad Lamborghinis are shipboxes though tell them those Dude, I rode that thing.

[702] Well, he, you know what he says?

[703] He's like, you just roll it for two years, and then you can sell it back, you can make money on it, and then you, and then I said, then why?

[704] He says, well, then you're just in the flip.

[705] Then you got a Lamborghini every year, you get a new one.

[706] Don't, I'm like, I don't want to do that.

[707] Like, what I want to do is I want to get one of those Icon four by fours.

[708] If I'm going to spend $200 ,000, it's not even that.

[709] I had this 65 Riviera that I want to do, yeah.

[710] But I called that dude before he was on your show.

[711] John Ward?

[712] Yeah, and I go, I emailed him, and then he called me back.

[713] I go, hey, rad.

[714] I'm like this guy's calling me and and uh he must have thought I had some Jay Leno money or something he's like oh yeah I used to work with guys in your field or whatever I'm like what's my I'm like what is my field like I don't even really know and uh she's like well an actor and I go oh okay cool and uh and he's like yeah to redo your Rivie it'd be like you know around 400 I'm like you're talking the wrong fucking guy 400 ,000 dollars to redo your Rivier crazy what did he want to do to it?

[715] I don't know ground up like you know the whole digitized and and redo the whole.

[716] undercarriage and the whole brake system and this during you know 400 ,000 dollars I don't know because those Broncos you guys can come in under 400 uh holler at your boy tape fletcher on Instagram because those uh broncos are two he does those broncos and they're to the done to the tits they're he's got those though and then he's got like you know the reformers and then so he's they're they're different price points and I think if you bring your own you know a box of hazards to him he probably thinks about it a different way Who knows?

[717] Well, he does a bunch of different kinds of cars, but one of the coolest ones he does is those old Toyota land cruisers.

[718] He takes, like, those FJ, 62s.

[719] Like, they don't even look that cool.

[720] They look, and then he puts a corvette engine in them.

[721] He puts a modern L .S. Corvette engine in them and fucking completely redos of the suspension.

[722] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[723] You see that one, the white one?

[724] Yeah.

[725] I like that with all that billeted fucking steel.

[726] That one's stupid expensive.

[727] Dude.

[728] That one's, like, way into the twos.

[729] Yeah.

[730] Like high twos.

[731] There's a huge.

[732] I used one I saw on YouTube or on eBay or somewhere.

[733] Oh, yeah?

[734] It was like 140.

[735] One of his?

[736] Really?

[737] Yeah.

[738] Wow.

[739] That's a bargain.

[740] But a diesel fucking...

[741] Diesel?

[742] Awesome.

[743] A diesel power wagon, really?

[744] Yeah.

[745] See, he does amazing stuff.

[746] That guy is a real...

[747] He's a real engineer.

[748] And an astute eye.

[749] Well, you go to...

[750] I'll take it to his place if you want to go and check it out.

[751] I called him.

[752] I was like, when are you there?

[753] He's like, oh, next week or whatever.

[754] Yeah, yeah.

[755] Let's go with you.

[756] Okay.

[757] Because he's doing a blazer now.

[758] K -5 blazer.

[759] Those old Chevy Blazers.

[760] I love those.

[761] If he's going to do it, it's going to be insane.

[762] He's going to do an icon version of the Blazer, so he's going to completely update the suspension and all the components.

[763] But, yeah, man, his employees or his customers are just rich as fuck.

[764] I mean, those are the kind of people.

[765] Well, it is the Jay Leno's of the world and all that.

[766] Yeah.

[767] I mean, I heard him on your show and he was like, yeah, Dana wanted one, but he didn't want to wait or whatever.

[768] And I'm like, holy fuck.

[769] Yeah, it takes over a year.

[770] I mean, he has full -time employees working on your car for over a year.

[771] I mean, that's why it cost $200 ,000 But when you go there, you get it Like when I went to his shop I'm like, oh, I get it He's like, yeah, you could cut a lot of corners He's there and have it look the same And it cost $100 ,000 But this fucking guy's doing everything like What is the best bolts that I can get?

[772] What's the best breaks?

[773] He's standing by his stuff for, It's not like you're driving off the thing At West Coast Customs or something like that Or wherever it is And it's like, yeah, see and if you got a problem Come on back and like, that's a dude that is like he cares about every piece that comes through oh no he not only just care that guy if he doesn't care he won't build it right he won't build it yeah like if he is not excited about it when he said no to dana it's like how he was just saying no like being like that's not that's outside of my well if dana wants one of those broncos all he has to do is wait around and say contact me whenever you got one for sale like and the other thing number one just went up for sale he could throw throw money in an account and go here i'll prepay for it just holler in a year when it's done or whatever well dana you're still going to want it in a year impatient you're still going to want it yeah next year yeah yeah can i get one now well you could have if you would have given me money last year yeah yeah but now it's another year yeah well it's more now i think he's in a 2018 that's the thing about the broncos getting better at anything it's like you're there's going to come a day when you want to get better mm -hmm fucking do it now like that was one of the best like one of the so many coaching like sports has given me so much But Mike Vendarsdale one time He would do like guided meditation Sometimes after practice And so there's fucking 40 sweaty guys laying on the mats He'd turn the lights off in the gym at Jackson's And he'd go, hey, I know you guys We did a lot of technical wrestling today And you think Hey, I'm young, there's a lot of time And I'll be able to get this I'll put this together, I'll piece it together I got a little better today He says, I just want you to consider that there's a guy that's demanding to be better right now there's a guy that knows he needs to get it today and you're going to have to fight that guy so he's like fucking turn your fucking learning curve up and like he would really speak into that kind of a voice of going it's not just it's not just ooh when it happens it happens it's like demand that you get better now and that's a powerful way to look at stuff I think that's some wrestling mentality man those wrestlers are fucking that's a different breed of guy they're like I need to do this now well I think you have that with boxers you have that with kickbox you have that with anybody who is just fanatical about improvement.

[774] You have to have that insane, insane just the drive to perfection and belief, yeah.

[775] But you've got to be obsessed, man. If you're not obsessed, you're not going to beat the guy's obsessed.

[776] No, I remember when I saw fucking John Jones when he first came down, the first time I'd ever seen him was when I never knew anything about him until he beat up Stefan Bonner.

[777] And I was live at that fight and I was like, holy fuck.

[778] And he was just learning back then.

[779] He didn't know.

[780] And the throws, I was like and Stephens is maybe bigger than me. He's fucking and not small, he's good, he's adept at everything.

[781] And he's hitting him with elbows, like their jabs and knees, and then throwing him like crate.

[782] Anytime I'd get close to him, throw him.

[783] And I was like, holy fuck.

[784] And then, I don't know, a month or two months later, he came to Jackson's, and he's there, and I'm like, I was, hey, and I knew he wrestled.

[785] Like, I knew a bunch of tough wrestlers from New York, and I was like, where did you learn Muay Thai, though?

[786] Because, like, Tom Watson or who he'd just gotten back from a Dutch kickboxing camp, and dudes go to Thailand all the time, and there's all that.

[787] And he goes, oh, YouTube.

[788] What the fuck?

[789] Like, dudes are dined, and you're just like, he's like, well, I look at it and I go, huh?

[790] And then I believe.

[791] And I'm like, holy fuck.

[792] Like, no proper training.

[793] He just watches shit on a video and he's like, like, don't watch the Matrix.

[794] He's a special talent.

[795] He is a special talent.

[796] Well, I think one of the problems with John is that he absolutely has worked hard, but it has come way easier for him that it has for other people.

[797] And I think part of that is because he grew up with two super athletes for brothers.

[798] Can't even imagine.

[799] You just getting your ass kicked all the time in your house by giant super athletes.

[800] Both his brothers are NFL fucking all -stars.

[801] He's got two super athletes.

[802] Tripoli's joke about it is hilarious.

[803] It is funny.

[804] Whatever comes out of there, just Nike should sponsor.

[805] They should sponsor John's mom.

[806] They're all super athletes.

[807] It's so true.

[808] It's so true.

[809] I mean, his level is just like, right?

[810] Right out of the box.

[811] Well, then they used to beat him up or whatever.

[812] He's like, I'm not the toughest one in my family.

[813] He's the least toughest.

[814] My brothers will beat my ass.

[815] The younger brother, his younger brother beats his ass.

[816] Like, his younger brother was talking about it like in an interview.

[817] They asked him for TMZ.

[818] And he's like, I'll beat his ass right now.

[819] It's like, what the fuck, man?

[820] Remember when he watched when he choked Liotto?

[821] And I'm like, he doesn't even really know how to, like, I'm looking at that, or when he choked Bader.

[822] I'm like, that's not.

[823] Well, the Yoto choke was a great choke because he knows how to push.

[824] He's, first of all, He knows how to cover the head.

[825] He covers the head, but he also, he pushes the arm, you know, he pushes his palm back that way.

[826] He can seize that up.

[827] He's learning.

[828] He's learning in these moments.

[829] He's so strong.

[830] He's so strong.

[831] I thought how scared.

[832] I was like, like, Bader, he looked great against Rashad.

[833] He looked like a different athlete.

[834] But he's a different athlete over the last four fights, Bader is.

[835] He's been amazing.

[836] But back then, when he just relied on wrestling, that John Jones fight, when do you see a sun -kiss kid wrestler pull half guard?

[837] Yeah.

[838] Like, that, like, it's, and he'd.

[839] This was like, I don't want to, fucking, I don't want to get in a bad position.

[840] Maybe I can hang on to this.

[841] Yeah, he was just overwhelmed, I think, too.

[842] And, I mean, that's a kind of power that, like, he'd never felt.

[843] And that's a huge top of the food chain wrestler.

[844] Like, that's crazy.

[845] How special John is.

[846] Like, look at how good Glover Tashara has looked against everybody else but John.

[847] Well, Phil Davis did beat his ass.

[848] But Phil Davis beat his ass when he was fighting out of Connecticut.

[849] And his shoulder was all fucked up from the John Jones fight.

[850] And there's a lot of things wrong with his camp.

[851] Glover had has the right mentality, too, as far as, like, stalking and getting really aggressive towards Jones and taking the center because John just takes the center of the ring and makes everybody run in a circle around him.

[852] Yeah, but Glover was like, that was one of the fascinating things about that fight.

[853] Glover was, like, loading up on shots, and John was just aware of everything.

[854] He's like, nope.

[855] You can't fight him like that.

[856] I think guys are looking like they want to put him away, and it's like he sees too much to be able to do that.

[857] You have to really, how are you going to surprise him with, one shot you're not it's incredible though when you think about that it's incredible that he has that sort of awareness with relatively small amount of time striking yep and when you consider his entire life and the fact it's only 27 wins the title at 23 you know yeah the growth is 22 or 23 that he won the title 22 yeah I mean I hate what happened with him I hate to see a guy run into that classic cliche of partying and just messing up his life and then the hit and run it's like god damn i think it's that youth stuff you know and it's the thing that um like i would just ask everybody to be gracious looking at it in that way because it's shit that maybe not everybody does but a lot of young dudes you go through that shit and he went through it at a little later time maybe but away public time like He's, you know, I think that's the thing that when you're so publicized like that, people are going to see all your warts.

[858] And there's nobody that's walking without warts.

[859] It's like that's one of the problems with the way we view, I think politics, I think everything.

[860] It's like, you know, before the internet, like all those politicians are pretending that they didn't fuck kids or have affairs or do blow or whatever.

[861] You know, they do.

[862] Come on.

[863] That's Jared.

[864] I know what you're saying.

[865] You know, that kind of thing.

[866] And it's like when you live with transparency, like we have a lot more transparency now it's like everybody's seen there's no cover -ups of scandals right except 9 -11 but beyond that they what about chemtrails black helicopters yeah yeah I yeah I wonder if it's going to change politics in the future if you're going to be forced to just be human and that's the thing and grow and be a real person because that speech type style of delivery where they're not real you know what they do you know ladies and gentlemen the president of the United States sure my fellow Americans, today is a day that will live in infamy.

[867] There's a bunch of speech raters that have this template, and they want to put that template under this.

[868] It's also like the tone, the way they speak.

[869] It's all fake.

[870] And I always wonder, like, are we going to come to a point in time where a guy gets on stage or a woman gets on stage as the president and speaks like a human and says, here's our situation.

[871] This is where we're at.

[872] We have a real problem with Syria.

[873] You know, we have, you know, we have, you.

[874] You're going to run for president with Kanye West?

[875] I think, well, I don't know that Kanye.

[876] You could fuck Kanye up in debates.

[877] Well, for sure.

[878] You would run trains on that, dude, in debates.

[879] A train.

[880] He would try to talk over you.

[881] It has a connotation that I would be with other guys.

[882] I think I gave you your time, sir.

[883] That would be awesome.

[884] I'm not Taylor Swift.

[885] That would be awesome.

[886] You know, I think, I don't know, I feel like, you know, we take a lot for granted from old ideas, you know, and like, it's like goes back to Pauly Shore going, nobody knows how to do it.

[887] There's no path.

[888] You make your own path, right?

[889] That's the thing because Polly came from stand -up And there's absolutely no path in stand -up Like no one Because at least like with acting You're going in for a role Why don't you fucking do it?

[890] I'm gonna go on to some open mics T 'Fletcher, let's do it.

[891] But I think the same thing like...

[892] Bravo wants to do it again.

[893] Oh, really?

[894] Yeah, he's down.

[895] He wants to do it again.

[896] Cool, cool.

[897] You know, I had Eddie do it like He probably did like...

[898] Remember those days?

[899] Like eight times?

[900] Yeah, yeah.

[901] What did he say?

[902] Well, he was like, you know, he's like, I had this joke that I thought was just awesome and it just, it was about hookers and it just didn't come out, you know, you know the one.

[903] And anyway, but you know, you look at all these old ideas that people have.

[904] And even like this whole stigma of like, well, we have low attention span.

[905] We're looking at it wherever my phone is.

[906] We're looking at our phones all the time or this and that.

[907] But, you know, you look at that and you go, okay, if I were a corporate media thing and I wanted to put out a fucking new entertainment thing and it's going to be anywhere from an hour to three hours long and it's just going to be guys talking.

[908] any corporation would be like that's never going to catch on we need sound bites we need MTV news like we need fuck and you look at podcasts and you look at what they are and people are fucking more invested in that because it's real because there's authentic voices to it well you know that was one of the number one things that people said to me when I first started out like you can't do three hour podcast right and I hear why why not and they said well because no one's going to listen to three hours I go well they don't have to right you could just shut it off like I don't get it that's why Ari and me had like a argument about it.

[909] As long as we're just having fun, who gives a fuck?

[910] Ari was like adamant about it.

[911] You have to edit your podcast.

[912] I'm just telling you right now.

[913] You have to edit your podcast.

[914] I go, why?

[915] He goes, because it's too long.

[916] I go, well, so what?

[917] What does that mean?

[918] Yeah.

[919] Why do I have to edit it?

[920] Also, more importantly, is that a road that you've walked?

[921] You have experience with yours being too long?

[922] Well, everybody was comparing it to a show, but nobody had any experience at all.

[923] But they thought about it like a comedy central show, like an hour long show.

[924] Which then speaks to the thing about old stuff.

[925] Old ideas.

[926] You've got to put away your old ideas if you want to be on the tip of the spear.

[927] Also, don't you think, I mean, my point of view was like, you and I, long before we ever did podcast, we always had these conversations, you know, before a show or after a show or hanging out, we would talk for fucking hours, hours and hours.

[928] And it seemed to me, like, a half hour into the conversation or 45 minutes, shit just started getting cooking.

[929] Yeah.

[930] You know, and then, you know, an hour in later, we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[931] And then the stories come out.

[932] I remember this one time and those are the fun conversations you get to know each other and then and then you make that into an audience and then they get to know you and then there's not like you know there's not all this uh these barriers between us all we're all we all see our similarities and there's less dissension there's less animosity there's more understanding there's more graciousness and generosity and like if we could get that way with everybody if everybody like felt that way instead of this corporate dominion like here's what CNN says that we need this Also, you have direct feedback from other people about what you're doing.

[933] And that feedback has been super valuable to me, man. Even the negative stuff, the negative stuff.

[934] Like, nobody likes to hear criticisms about what they do.

[935] But if you consider it and find, well, is there any truth in that?

[936] You could find out a lot about your style of interviewing people or talking to people, where you make mistakes.

[937] And you're not, no one's perfect.

[938] You're not going to make mistakes.

[939] I mean, you're not going to have a podcast that every word comes out perfect.

[940] It's just not possible.

[941] Because you're free -balling.

[942] When you do your ads.

[943] Yeah, a free ball.

[944] How much do you stumble on?

[945] All the time.

[946] And it doesn't fucking matter.

[947] Well, if...

[948] But if somebody were directing you, they would say it matters.

[949] Do it again.

[950] We're going to do it again.

[951] You don't have...

[952] I mean, sometimes I have to do it again.

[953] Sure.

[954] But the reality is that this medium is new.

[955] And no one had it before.

[956] And this medium is like they gave these kids the controls.

[957] Like, they gave these kids the ability to broadcast a radio show.

[958] And then they just did it.

[959] their way.

[960] And then they go, well, why don't want I just start talking?

[961] Let's just see what happens if we don't have commercials in the middle of it.

[962] That becomes the thing is like, as long as you're having fun as the person involved in it, who gives a fuck?

[963] It doesn't, it doesn't matter what the result is in a way.

[964] It's like, it's kind of like, it's like a fight or a comedy sketch or what, when you go up and you try a joke, it's like there's not a, and you're trying to figure it out and do it the best you can.

[965] In real time.

[966] Right.

[967] In real time with no script and no back.

[968] And that's like being in competition.

[969] It's like in competition is where greatness happens.

[970] People figure shit out in a crazy way inside of that kind of pressure.

[971] And so if you step on stage, you've got an increased amount.

[972] It's not like you're in your living room in your front of your mirror trying to say a fucking joke.

[973] It means something different.

[974] So you grow more in that competition.

[975] The seconds mean more.

[976] The fucking moments mean more.

[977] All of that stuff.

[978] And you don't get that if you're not willing to throw it out and expose yourself live.

[979] And that's like putting this live on the internet.

[980] Like that's a huge exposure.

[981] And either you're an authentic person that's got something or you don't.

[982] And it becomes, like, I think it's super visible, and I think it's super important that we all get to that instead of all these masks that we wear all the time, you know?

[983] It's like, and to me, it doesn't matter.

[984] If you're, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, already saying that, I'm sure he feels, I know he feels differently now.

[985] He laughs about it now.

[986] But, like, if you're, so does that mean that you don't have a conversation that's more than 15 minutes with your friend?

[987] Like, go on, I'm going to get bored in a minute thing.

[988] It's just like he thought it had to be like an hour because a show was an hour.

[989] But not a real hour, 42 minutes, because we got.

[990] gotta have time for commercials yeah there's that too well they also most people do the commercials in the middle of shit too yeah you know and i was like man i tried what you ever you watched that show uh there's a new fear the walking dead is the new walking dead no i've seen an ad for dope really it's so good i thought the walking dead was gonna be shit and i watched it and i was like and then i watched like six or 10 episodes and i was like this is stupid it's the same episode over again and then i watched another 20 episodes i just couldn't stop watching it no matter what fear the walking that is interesting because it's less special effects, you've got less zombies, and it's better.

[991] And the fucking, the way it's shot, it's shot so well.

[992] Whoever the director is and whoever the cinematographer is or the camera director, they're bad motherfuckers, because they, they, they, it's done so well.

[993] It's done like a really good movie.

[994] That's cool.

[995] And there's very few cut the shit moments in it.

[996] It's really good, man. Dude, this new show that's coming out is Westworld, this HBO show with Anthony Hopkins.

[997] Is that like the old movie with Yule Brenner?

[998] Yeah, same shit.

[999] Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins.

[1000] See, that's HBO.

[1001] What I was going to say is I'd watch that show the other day for the first time.

[1002] I usually watch it on Apple TV, whatever it is?

[1003] Apple TV?

[1004] Yeah.

[1005] The other night I watched it on TV TV, and I sat through the fucking commercials.

[1006] I can't do that shit.

[1007] God.

[1008] I can't do commercials.

[1009] It's ruthless.

[1010] I mean, and that's the thing is TV is going away.

[1011] It's all going to go just digitized.

[1012] But why can't they have, like, who the fuck is paying for all those commercials, right?

[1013] Why don't they have, make a big deal out of it?

[1014] say, uh, fucking ram trucks.

[1015] Ram trucks is going to sponsor the whole fucking episode, okay?

[1016] We're going to have one commercial in the beginning.

[1017] Ram trucks is proud to present fear of the walking dead.

[1018] Just do it as a goddamn, just a test.

[1019] And make them dope.

[1020] Make a dope commercial.

[1021] Make a dope commercial.

[1022] How about make one?

[1023] Yeah, make one where a guy in a fucking ram truck is running over zombies.

[1024] Yeah.

[1025] Crushing their heads and fucking head it off into the distance.

[1026] See, this is the thing.

[1027] Get head while he's driving.

[1028] It's old ideas.

[1029] We need to start a production company.

[1030] That's what I'm saying.

[1031] What else do we need to do?

[1032] We need to do something else.

[1033] Oh, we need to make a little 15 -minute kids commercials.

[1034] I guess we're going to need that too, yeah.

[1035] Kids short films.

[1036] Yep.

[1037] We need a ranch in New Mexico.

[1038] New Mexico is that's a spot.

[1039] That's a good spot.

[1040] But Colorado is good, too.

[1041] Colorado's pretty beautiful.

[1042] And nice and game rich and not all fucked up with pollution yet.

[1043] And weeds free and legal there.

[1044] And weed's free and legal, if that's your thing, you know.

[1045] That's my thing.

[1046] I like free and legal, no matter.

[1047] what i don't have any use for weed and i love it free and legal yeah i would like it if everything was free and legal we need less laws we do we need less laws less people enforcing those laws and uh more common sense more common sense more freedom more allowing people to do whatever the fuck they want as long as it doesn't hurt people and then put restrictions on shit that does hurt people that's in place right that's not in place right now like financial shit like how about the fact that none of those guys that caused the financial crash of 2008 are in jail so how about that how about that's like the whole thing about being accountable yeah like i don't hang out with like if you weren't accountable for your actions or responsible i want to fucking hang out with you it's it's like it's the kind of thing and it's like why would i accept less from my politicians or from anybody that is like not going to be accountable it's like everybody's got to be held accountable and that's the way good shit works if i start a business if i start fucking nevo servesa and it's a shit product or we don't do due diligence and marketing or whatever whatever that fucking thing is and it fails nobody's fucking bailing me out and I could put all my money into that and go broke like that could be the thing but GM they have a failing business model and we're gonna go ahead and write them a check for a trillion like what what the fuck is that oh you mean like the bailhouse all that shit all that doesn't make any sense all that too big to fail shit shouldn't be too big to fail they did pay back all those loans though and they are profitable now and they have improved and made incredible vehicles now so I see your point on some way let shit die yeah but god damn it then did have no 2016 corvette and that thing's pretty sick who needs a corvette if you drive a corvette you are a douche fucking nozzle you don't have a corvette stop it that's not a real corvette that's a that's a old school corvette it's not like one of these that's brand new off a lot oh here's my 1987 corvette like stop all that 87 87 you know i mean that's the dark years they're all dark years after fucking 19 what 72?

[1048] Yeah, until about 2013.

[1049] The newer ones are pretty dope, dude.

[1050] You can't ever...

[1051] Your boy with the Lamborghini, I take a Corvette over a Lamborghini.

[1052] Yes, sir.

[1053] You know why I wouldn't?

[1054] Resale, and then I would buy a truck.

[1055] How about...

[1056] And a house.

[1057] How about America?

[1058] Keep America strong.

[1059] You know what the best thing about Keep America Strong is?

[1060] What did they pull the NASA space shuttle with?

[1061] What did they pull?

[1062] A tundra?

[1063] Oh, no, they didn't.

[1064] Did they?

[1065] That's awful.

[1066] 100 % awesome.

[1067] It's good truck, though.

[1068] I'm like, how did that get through?

[1069] Toyota's are good trucks.

[1070] You have a co -o?

[1071] Yeah, that's my favorite.

[1072] That Tacoma.

[1073] They don't break.

[1074] They don't ever break.

[1075] They're coming out with a diesel, too, I heard.

[1076] Well, that's why everybody fell in love with those land cruisers.

[1077] That's what they used to say in Africa.

[1078] If you want to get into the bush, you bring a range rover, you want to get out, you bring a land cruiser.

[1079] And that's why I love that dude, John, because he's like all about making it last forever.

[1080] Instead of all these, like, I would love to have a Mercedes or BMW or something.

[1081] Like, now that I'm able to, it would be great.

[1082] Except that I'm not, I just can't fucking buy something that's going to crap out in 60 ,000 miles.

[1083] They all have an expiration date where there's like, now there's real problems forever with the rest, you know.

[1084] And I don't, I don't, it doesn't need to be that way.

[1085] I don't want to support that kind of culture.

[1086] That's rape culture to me. How dare you?

[1087] Yeah.

[1088] That's why I like those Lexus trucks.

[1089] Those, I got that Lexi 70s.

[1090] Dude, those are dope and they last forever, too.

[1091] They are not as good.

[1092] They look good.

[1093] I've had that.

[1094] They're handsome -looking.

[1095] The Lexus is a better truck.

[1096] I had a Lexus, and then I got an infinity, and then I got, you, have you seen my new one?

[1097] I haven't seen it.

[1098] It's dope.

[1099] Is it outside?

[1100] Yeah, I'll show you.

[1101] Oh.

[1102] They make awesome trucks, man. They make awesome trucks.

[1103] They also, the Lexus trucks, their actual real four -wheel drive truck is based off the Land Cruiser so they raise up.

[1104] They have locking differentials.

[1105] Like, if the shit hits the fan, you could actually go off -roading with a land cruiser.

[1106] You can go off -roading with a Lexus LX -570.

[1107] It's the same car.

[1108] it's the same as a land cruiser but there's a lot of electronic shit that the old ones didn't have the old ones that what people liked about them is you could just drive those motherfuckers through the desert take them over a mountain they just they're so durable you know and Jonathan Ward what he does to him makes them way more durable he puts polyurea coating over the entire floor of the car like that shit is never rusting through ever he puts these side these rock sliders on the side of them that also act as side impact beams somebody hits you from the side he put solid steel bumpers on him american made bumpers he's giant fucking bumpers with a winch a worn winch to fucking pull you at eight thousand pound winch to pull you out of fucking trouble yeah he's got a jerry these jerry cans in the back that carry water okay he's got like these uh he puts these um roof racks this is what we need for the ranch with a ramp on the front that like so that they don't rattle at speed when you're on the highway it's so genius freedom ranch The Freedom Ranch.

[1109] Let's call it the Freedom Ranch.

[1110] Yes.

[1111] Somebody probably took that in Texas.

[1112] And you know what we do?

[1113] We call in Tim Kennedy to be our engineer for how to do the security perimeter and what all we need in there is exactly to survive.

[1114] He'd get bored.

[1115] Well, he wouldn't stay for sure.

[1116] He'd be like, I'll come visit you guys now and again.

[1117] I need adventure.

[1118] He would have to fucking go off and do something else.

[1119] He's like, let's go shoot pigs out a helicopter.

[1120] That's the big thing.

[1121] I'm like, let's do that.

[1122] Is that what he does?

[1123] Fucking do that.

[1124] He's crazy.

[1125] That's my next trip to Austin.

[1126] To go do that?

[1127] Yeah, awesome.

[1128] Well, that's the thing about Texas, and we want to have a ranch at Texas.

[1129] They already exist, and they have game ranches.

[1130] And you can shoot all the pigs you want.

[1131] Well, not just pigs.

[1132] You can shoot, they bring in all these African animals, and so there's no regulations on them.

[1133] They're privately owned.

[1134] It was like, it was one of these high fence ranches, and they had a lot of that exotic game in there.

[1135] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1136] You know, you want to jump over an airplane?

[1137] Jump out of an airplane?

[1138] You know the dude from that MTV show just died doing that.

[1139] I don't know who he is, but my friend Andy Stunner.

[1140] he uh he does he does he does he does wing suit shit oh fuck him and so he was a seal team six guy him and fuck that right and he's fucking he's wild you got to have him on your show would you wing suit it i wouldn't wing suit like you gotta know some shit i have never jumped out of an aircraft but he used to teach he taught my cousin who he went through buds with andy and he was andy was an instructor he lives in san diego bring him up and uh he went him together i will and uh does he drink oh yeah i know he drinks Maybe he will enjoy some Nuevo Cerveza live from New Mexico He does this shit to do the Navy SEAL Foundation And so all the monies go to that He's trying to break four records And a single jump Yeah, they would love that I'll just give them money Yeah, I don't want to jump on any helicopters Oh, I do I'm going to jump into the plane with them You know what's really thrilling?

[1141] Bow hunting.

[1142] Good enough That's good too But you know what, you know what dude So another friend of mine He's this Army Ranger and he's fucking he's retired he's gone from that and he's you know it's weird retired and he's 26 or something but he started he started fucking around with a bow when he got done and he's a real out like he doesn't talk to anybody he's a real soloist kind of likes to go sit in the woods by himself and and he started messing around with bows and I go oh you shoot a compound bow or what do he shoot and he goes no he makes his own of course and so he went to recurve right first then he started making his own and I go why is that he goes well because it's like the other one's like shooting a rifle he's like it's just there's nothing he says this and like so he's like all wants to be on horseback and shoot like he's a fucking trip and deadly is fuck those guys are a trip that's some different level shit when you talk to those guys that are special operators like that like i'm listening to and andy's talking he's like he's talking about like oh there's a swat team guy with us and he and he's like talking about his mp5 and he's like why do you have that and he's like that's a fucking useless weapon like i hit a guy eight times in the chest with that across the room and he walked into the other room I mean he laid down there but it's like he fucking like he's like well I just use it for sport for target practice he's like oh well that's okay then he's like you really want to get it he's like just right just under the eyes and above the teeth he want to get in that area I'm like holy fuck when anybody says above the teeth you're talking about shooting a person above the teeth oh god he's amazing and you're like this is one of the kindest friendliest guy And then you hear, and you're like, holy fuck.

[1143] Some of the nicest people I know were special operators.

[1144] Some of the nicest people I know.

[1145] I talked to him, too.

[1146] I'm like, how come there's, he gave me a real insight into that about how come there's not more, like, would draw from war from guys that are special operators than regular guys.

[1147] It's like everybody that has PTSD, like there's a ton of it.

[1148] And he goes, yeah, there's not a lot in our community.

[1149] And I go, why is that?

[1150] He goes, well, because if you're a regular guy on the ground, infantry guy, you're, you're, you, you're, you.

[1151] You can't engage.

[1152] You have to be reactive.

[1153] You have to be fired upon or whatever.

[1154] There's rules of engagement.

[1155] And he goes, for us, we're predators.

[1156] And we're going out to engage.

[1157] And so it's a different mindset.

[1158] You're in a place of either being defensive or offensive.

[1159] And if you're defensive, you're prey in a way.

[1160] And you get to be reactive to that.

[1161] But he's like, we're out hunting.

[1162] And he's like also, by the time you get to that level, you're very dialed in about who you are and what you're doing.

[1163] That makes sense.

[1164] It does make sense.

[1165] He's like, it's very, like, Like, because he talked to Tim, too, and Tim's like, like, that shit's not present to him at all.

[1166] He's like, yeah, no, I'm fucking good.

[1167] When he was on the podcast, we were talking about it.

[1168] He's like, you know, we're talking about people that are throwing acid on girls that were going to school.

[1169] He's like, yeah, I kill those guys.

[1170] Yeah.

[1171] Yeah.

[1172] And when you say it like that, I'm right there with you.

[1173] Yep.

[1174] If I was there, I get it.

[1175] I get it 100%.

[1176] And that's the type of guys you want.

[1177] Fuck, yes.

[1178] But there's not a lot of those guys out there.

[1179] I mean, this is a reason why it's so fucking hard to become a Navy SEAL.

[1180] there's a reason why it's so hard to be a ranger it's it's that it's not easy no that's the kind of shit like marcos the trail talks about he goes you've got to be you know if you get through but you've got to be willing to die you know um yeah my my uh my cousin he just got he got he got in steel team two and he got in a gunfight and then he got shot up and he's recovered now and i think he just screened for seal team six and it's a year after his injury but um two of his friends died and uh in the pool and they're in training Yeah, and there's, I mean, it's a completely controlled environment.

[1181] And I was like, what the fuck is that?

[1182] Well, you know what a lot of that is.

[1183] My friend Eric Crisp said when he was going through it, they make you drown.

[1184] Right, right, and resuscitate you.

[1185] That's part of the training.

[1186] That's like the beginning of buds for everybody.

[1187] But these guys are already active duty combat seals.

[1188] And I started, what did it?

[1189] And then, like, a few weeks ago, it dawned on me. And I think about, like, you know, everybody's got safety and comfort.

[1190] Like, here's where we live, right?

[1191] And then, like, Greg Jackson always say, you need to be comfortable.

[1192] where other men are uncomfortable.

[1193] Like, you need to raise your breaking point to where it's unreachable for them, and you can smash theirs, right?

[1194] And, like, so there's safety and comfort, and then there's death over here.

[1195] And so, if you're pushing it in, like, a combat arena, like, for me, it's a certain thing.

[1196] But then you get more and more, it becomes opaque where death and your discomfort is, and those guys are so used to being uncomfortable and in the worst situation as possible that they probably can't see it.

[1197] So they're underwater in a pool and they're doing whatever they're doing.

[1198] And it's just too late.

[1199] And they don't, you know, I think it's something like that probably where they're so fucking tough those guys that they erase all their warning flags.

[1200] Whatever our body puts up is like warning.

[1201] Like you need to stop this now or you're in danger.

[1202] I think that it just goes away for those guys.

[1203] That shit doesn't exist for them anymore.

[1204] There's levels with people, man. Levels.

[1205] There's levels of competency.

[1206] There's levels of excellence and there's levels of toughness.

[1207] And then there's people that put themselves in the situation.

[1208] you go you know what man this is like to the average person you would go this is just not a smart place to be but to them it's it's home like that's where they're at there's where they live yeah you're like this is very uncomfortable for me i don't like this and they're just feet are kicked up on the couch they're like this is great my friend cameron haines sent me a text last night do i follow that guy he's got a fucking what a life he needs stud love that guy he's in colorado right now bow hunting he bohunts constantly what i love about that hold on He was bow hunting two weeks ago with his friend Roy, who got him in hunting.

[1209] This guy from Oregon, who's his best friend, got him in hunting.

[1210] This guy's a guide up in Alaska, and they got a moose, really difficult hunt.

[1211] They're in the middle of the fucking snowstorm, and it was six inches of snow.

[1212] They're trudging through.

[1213] They had to find these moose, and they finally got one.

[1214] And it was like this big tramp -up moment for him.

[1215] He sent me a text yesterday that Roy died yesterday, fell off of a cliff while sheep hunting.

[1216] 700 foot drop and died and this is a guy that he was just with and this is one of his best friends if not his best friend and uh he he died uh the day before yesterday fell 700 feet and this is that that's what we're talking about it's like this is they're always that close to that i mean especially when you're sheep hunting these rocky steep steep steep ice yeah it's loose gravel and and Cameron was supposed to be sheep hunting with him on that trip but they had to call it off because the snow was too dangerous.

[1217] It was so much snow that it snowed for 10 days straight.

[1218] They couldn't get to these mountain areas.

[1219] And if there's snow also, and you're trying to climb up these mountains, you don't know what the fuck you're stepping on.

[1220] You're stepping on some loose rock underneath that snow.

[1221] Or a crevasse is like the snow that's tapped and then you go right through.

[1222] Right through.

[1223] And then you're fucked.

[1224] Yeah.

[1225] And he fell 700 feet to his death.

[1226] Crazy.

[1227] Yeah.

[1228] That's.

[1229] How did Cameron turn the corner to, where he was able to monetize his life to live that's only recently he's been doing it forever he's been doing it forever he just hustles man because i know a ton of guys that are like that oh really it's a full -time job he works for the department of water and power in oregon wow works all day nine hours and he gets home he fucking runs he lifts savage man he's it he's just tough as shit man the guy does ultramarathetic is anything well he's just tough mental toughness yeah that's like the main strength that guy has incredible mental toughness he's like a lot of ways with the endurance aspect of it yeah that kind of thing just gritty determination just hard work man it's cool it's cool too because he's not in uh it's you know like if you're a fighter or you're a football player you're in the army or like it's directed in a way for you but like that's a real soloist thing that he does and there's a lot of guys that hunt but there's not a lot of guys that are like that guy who's like i'm gonna go ahead and strap fucking bunch of plates on my back and run up the mountain this morning or yeah there's not a lot of guys that trained to hunt like He trains to be an apex predator.

[1230] Well, when you hunt with him, you realize, like, he and I were hunting Colorado a couple weeks ago, and we went up this hill.

[1231] And this fucking dude runs hill so often.

[1232] I'm in pretty good shape.

[1233] I'm following behind him.

[1234] I'm fucking huffing.

[1235] Yeah.

[1236] I mean, we're, I mean, I'm trying to keep up with him, but I'm breathing heavy.

[1237] I got to the top with him.

[1238] I'm like, he's not even breathing.

[1239] Right.

[1240] I mean, he's not even fucking breathing.

[1241] I mean, he's fine.

[1242] Yeah.

[1243] He's like he could have a conversation with you.

[1244] Right.

[1245] Whereas I'm like, man. that's a fucking steep steep hill like I'm like this is the difference between a guy who runs hills and a guy who doesn't you know he he prepares for that specific environment constantly running hills constantly lifting weights all that and you know people criticize them you don't need to do that stuff you don't need to do that stuff because they don't want to do it and they don't like that someone is doing it right but that fucking guy kills several bull elk every year kills moose every time he goes out he's killing something and that's all he eats he eats high protein organic meat constantly and he's inspirational that's what i love about him man that guy i can i run into so many people that are inspired by that guy and he forces them by just watching him it forces them to get off their ass and go do stuff and go go lift weights go work out i mean a guy like that you're going if i do 15 % of what he does yeah i'm winning and he works all day you know that's that works 40 hours a week i thought for sure that was his full -time shit.

[1246] Yeah, he makes way more from bohunting than he does from his work.

[1247] Crazy.

[1248] But he keeps the job.

[1249] He doesn't want to anymore.

[1250] Get a pension or something at the end of it.

[1251] All that shit.

[1252] He's got kids and insurance and all that shit.

[1253] That is a ton.

[1254] Kids, too.

[1255] Yeah, wife, kids.

[1256] Whole deal.

[1257] Yeah.

[1258] Speaking of which, I got to get the fuck out of here, Tate Fletcher.

[1259] We've got to do these more often, dude.

[1260] Yeah, I know.

[1261] Why don't we do this?

[1262] I don't know.

[1263] This is fun.

[1264] Yeah, I love it, man. Tate, Matt, Matt, T -Mut.

[1265] I don't know who the fuck T -A -T -T is.

[1266] Yeah, not me. Tell him to kick rocks.

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[1275] You know what we do now?

[1276] You know what else fucking goes through it?

[1277] That little cunt.

[1278] I'm going to bring them some.

[1279] We got pallets on pallets inside L .A. right now.

[1280] Oh, Jamie just got all salivating.

[1281] All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

[1282] you, much love.

[1283] See you soon.

[1284] Bye -bye.

[1285] Big Kiss.