#1237 - Sebastian Maniscalco

[0] There we go.

[1] Four, three, two, one.

[2] And we're live, you fucking handsome bastard.

[3] Look at you.

[4] Oh, yeah, stunning.

[5] What's going on, man?

[6] What's going on?

[7] Well, I've done this once before, and I've watched you throughout the years.

[8] And when I come in here, I get a little nervous.

[9] why you're a guy who knows a lot about everything and I don't know a lot of I don't know a lot about everything I know enough to make it seem like I know a lot about everything whatever you're doing it's you know more than I do right like like we were on your treadmill out there right and you go it's 13 % what did you say 13 % more difficult than regular running Okay.

[10] Like, I forgot the fact what you just said from the time we walked in, I lost it.

[11] So I don't have the retention that I wish I had.

[12] I got to get you some alpha brain.

[13] I need something.

[14] Do we have any here?

[15] Is that what I'm missing in my diet?

[16] I don't know.

[17] I mean, it's, what's interesting, though, is that people will come up to me with shit that happened just a few years ago.

[18] And I'm like, I don't remember that at all.

[19] I think you have a certain amount of room in your brain and my brain is always deleting stuff that it doesn't think it needs anymore and then shoving in new things like sometimes someone will tell me about something I'm like what are you talking about and they're like you don't remember there was the guy with no arms who drove us around I went what and then I have to go oh yeah it's like I find the folder in my head and like oh there it is yeah yeah yeah yeah and then we went to the pool hall and then I'll remember but if yeah Yeah, it's just, for whatever reason, I can only, I only keep things that I'm interested in.

[20] Gotcha.

[21] Yeah.

[22] I just wish I could retain a lot of the things I either see or hear to then recall it in a conversation.

[23] You can, but you've got to write things down, and you've got to, like, want to recall things.

[24] Yeah, that's a problem.

[25] I don't do a lot of writing as far as, like, a notepad or anything to just take notes.

[26] When you write your act, do you write it in your head, or do you write it?

[27] on paper or computer it's audio just audio go to the comedy store i record it and i listen to it on the way home and then i'll i go oh maybe i'll do this next time maybe i'll do that i'll take that out this out and then uh so there's no writing my act is more recalling stories than sitting in a room going oh i think this is funny right right so that's kind of how i work but uh yeah the reason i say that to start off is just like i i see you go down a lot of different paths on the podcast And I often go, man, if I was sitting in that chair, could I add to the conversation?

[28] And a lot of times it's, no. I can't just because for whatever the reason, I just feel like I need to be a little bit more well -read.

[29] How often you read?

[30] Like I read the Gagons book.

[31] Yeah.

[32] Great fucking book.

[33] Sad life that dude had, huh?

[34] It's sad life, but then on the flip side, inspired.

[35] to, you know, a guy like myself where, you know, I'm running, I'm running, say, I'm working out.

[36] And I thought of this guy, go, you know what, let's put another mile into this.

[37] Yeah.

[38] So, yeah, I mean, I'm just now starting to get into a little bit more books than I have in the past.

[39] Because in the past, to be honest with you, I haven't really, I haven't really read much.

[40] I try to read one new thing a week.

[41] And the way I try to do it is I have a, uh, I have a, I use a lot of audiobooks, but I also read books.

[42] I go back and forth in between them, between reading and audiobooks.

[43] But I find for whatever reason I retain more with audiobooks than I do with reading, maybe it's my ADD or something like that.

[44] Because when I'm reading, I kind of have to back up sometimes.

[45] Like, I'll go through a whole paragraph where I'm thinking about some other shit while I'm reading.

[46] Yeah.

[47] And then I got to go, okay, asshole, back up, reread that.

[48] Go over it again, you know.

[49] That's what I find.

[50] My mind wanders, like you're saying.

[51] The audiobook definitely is a better option.

[52] Yeah, I think all stand -up comedians have scatterbrains, at least in some way.

[53] Yeah.

[54] All of us are a little fucked up.

[55] I think we have to be.

[56] I think the mind works in a weird way in a comedian's head.

[57] I think it has to be a little bit fragmented and thinking a lot of different things at once and a lot to operate.

[58] I mean, you're doing it on stage, I think.

[59] You know, you're doing your comedy.

[60] And I'm self -evaluating going, is this working right?

[61] now should I go off into another bit should I talk about my family I see they're liking family stuff so I think yeah that's what we're doing uh when we're performing and then sometimes I think that bleeds to everyday life yeah for sure yeah when you're doing a bit are you thinking about what you're like do you have a bit on deck like while you're in the middle of the bit do you like go from there I'm going to talk about you know the gym or the you know the this or that uh it's funny and I don't know if you go through this, do you ever go through, well, first of all, when you're doing comedy, do you have a beginning, middle, and end, and do you know where you're going throughout that whole set?

[62] Or do you, in the moment, go, you know what, I'm going to do the bit about that, that, that, or is it set?

[63] It's not, it's both.

[64] It depends when.

[65] Like, right now, I don't have a lot of material because my Netflix special came out in October, so November, December, January, I've basically three months worth a new shit, which is about 40 minutes of all -told material.

[66] And then I have 20 other minutes that are in the, they're in like the baking stage.

[67] Like, I'm not ready to take them out of the oven.

[68] I fuck around with them.

[69] I'll shove them in the middle a bit sometimes, but they're not, they're not 100 % legit.

[70] They need to be fleshed out.

[71] But one of those became like one of my best bits now.

[72] It's weird how that works.

[73] Sometimes you'll just find this one part of it that makes it work, and boom, all of a sudden the bits turbocharged.

[74] So because of that, I usually, I decide that day usually what I'm going to open with, and then I leave the middle part up to my imagination, and then I'll decide what I'm going to close with.

[75] But when I'm ready to do a Netflix special, I basically have it all mapped out.

[76] I basically have a starting point, and I have an end point.

[77] Yeah.

[78] But even like when I'm filming I still fuck around And ad lib Because I don't think Because every show I do I don't have like I'm going to say it verbatim this way every time I always fuck around Because I always feel like I could find a new way That's better if I just stay loose And so even when I'm filming I do it that way Because I figure I want this to be like a real show If it's a real show And I always film four shows So I'm like if it's a real show I'll fuck around And I've been filming before I fuck around I'll go down a dark road and there's no one there.

[79] I'm like, all right, turn around.

[80] Thank God for editing.

[81] Yeah, I think that's the way to do it though, to be kind of in the moment and go with how you're feeling when you're filming something just because that's the way you would be anyway.

[82] But sometimes I've learned in the past when I'm filming something, I feel like, man, I'd like to get everything that I want out on this special and I don't want to forget anything.

[83] Because there'd be nights where I'll be performing and I forgot a bit.

[84] I'm like, I'll be searching in my head for the bit and I'm like, I know there's another something that goes along this but then I just jump off it and go into another routine.

[85] So for me, I don't know, I like to keep it different every night, just try and play around and it's weird now that a Netflix special I just one came out.

[86] And And I don't really subscribe to, if I have a Netflix special out and you come to a live show, you're going to see some of those bits that I did in the Netflix special.

[87] I don't like retire the act.

[88] I know some guys go, okay, it's out there.

[89] I'm not doing this on my live show.

[90] Myself, I still like to do some of that material because I enjoy doing it.

[91] And I also have some new stuff.

[92] So I kind of, and I don't know how long that lasts.

[93] I don't know, like, I know some people were like, oh, I saw that on the Netflix.

[94] Why am I going to pay to see it live if I could see it at home?

[95] But there's something about going out, I believe, to a live show and seeing a live performance.

[96] There's different nuances that you might see in a bit or an add on.

[97] Like sometimes I add on to the joke that I, my jokes are sometimes never, finished so I keep adding on so that's the way I've kind of worked at my entire career yeah um Gaffigan does it that way um a lot of Brian Regan does it that way where guys will call out bits like they like if you go to see Gaffin he doesn't do hot pockets you're gonna get fucking mad that's this a lot of people like that I retire my material but uh I have brought stuff out before if people asked like someone asked me to bring up explaining Kim Kardashian's to the aliens the other night and I was amazed that I could remember it but I remembered it.

[98] But for the most part I retire shit because I feel like in my mind if I don't retire things I'm not going to work on new things as much and to limit myself.

[99] And then I always feel like my newest bits are better than my older bits because even though I've been doing standard for 30 years I still think I get better at it.

[100] I think it's a constant state of self -evaluation and self -analysis and going over the material and then realize you know you have enough good sets and bad sets and great sets you have enough that you kind of recognize the characteristics of each one or where they go wrong and then you get better at having less bad sets and even less good sets and more great sets and you know and I think that for me one big part of that is constantly writing I write write.

[101] I sit down and I write right right.

[102] And I write one hour every night after shows.

[103] That's one big one.

[104] I write during the day.

[105] But the big one for me seems to be at night when I come home from the store and I'm jazzed up.

[106] And also it's great too because everyone's asleep.

[107] It's just me and the dog.

[108] And I just fucking sit at that desk and I'll just work until my eyes start blinking and I start getting really tired.

[109] And some of my best shit I've ever come up with is that way.

[110] after shows, because I'm all, I'm juiced up, and then I also have a process of listening to the show in the car.

[111] Because, you know, it's one of the coolest things about Bluetooth audio that you get your phone, you record it on your phone, and then in the car home, you can listen, and then go, ah, I fucked that up, or, oh, I should have done it this way, or maybe if I do that, or you have an idea.

[112] Like, I'll pause it.

[113] I go, oh, I got another idea.

[114] And then I'll make a new voice note.

[115] And then I'll go home, and I'll listen to it again.

[116] I'll listen to my set again, and I'll pause it, and then start working on stuff.

[117] And that's how I've been able to expand all these bits pretty quickly.

[118] That's interesting.

[119] I find my best bits come out of just living my life.

[120] And, you know, I have a daughter.

[121] We went to the zoo and the nuances at the zoo that I picked up on.

[122] And I just go out either tell, I'll call my mother and I'll tell her a story.

[123] And that's kind of my barometer of whether or not this thing is going to.

[124] work on stage and then i'll go to the comedy store and kind of flush it out there but uh yeah i mean i just never been the guy who writes um i just i don't know well you don't have to no obviously it's working for you there's a lot of guys who don't do it that way bill burr doesn't do it that way he's one of the best ever yeah a lot of guys who just don't write um for me i feel like it's all about how much time and energy i put on things and if i put more time and energy you know just working on my act because i'm writing then it's going to be better that's just how i look at it yeah um yeah everybody's got their own process yeah it's uh and i'm fascinated to hear like guys like yourself of Seinfeld's another guy that every word is planned out yeah and you can hear it with him too you really hear it his act is like a scalpel you know it's just he's slicing the perfect slice and he's just he knows exactly how to say it yeah he's got perfect timing he's got you know his of words is you know whether or not you you know you mean any any comic can appreciate that any comic can appreciate the way he does that you know there's a lot of guys who like that who just have that did you ever watch jenny at all i have and uh you know his timing i think was i think timing in comedy is something uh a bit of a lost art i don't think a lot of comedians are really taking to timing like they have in the past.

[125] And I don't know if they're scared of the silence.

[126] Because a lot of timing is silent.

[127] And a lot of guys and women tend to not relish in those moments of silence where sometimes it's comedy gold.

[128] A lot of people run through the material.

[129] And for me, as an audience member, I like someone who kind of gives you as an audience member a little beat or maybe maybe some time to kind of marinate in the joke a little bit opposed to kind of blowing through the material don't you feel that like when you're in a large audience that's even more critical because you have like there's thousands of people and it seems like a big pause like in between punch lines or you give a person a chance give this whole group of people a chance to think about how ridiculous what you just said was yeah it enhances it oh absolutely I mean, especially like you said, in a large audience, which is even more fearful for a comedian to let the joke breathe.

[130] Yeah.

[131] Because God knows, you know, if you got a thousand people and then you got 20 ,000 people, I mean, you know, 19 more thousand people could yell or scream or say something.

[132] Anything can go wrong.

[133] Yeah, but man, to stop and just let that joke breathe a little bit and just and then maybe have it percolate.

[134] There's times where I'm on stage and I'll go a little bit longer than I thought I was going to go without talking, but maybe give it like a facial expression or whatnot, just to see if I could eke out another crescendo of laughter.

[135] Yeah.

[136] And those are the moments I really relish in because sometimes the silence is even better than saying anything.

[137] Yeah, and you also realize that you're not like rushing anything.

[138] Yeah.

[139] You got a hold of it.

[140] Yeah, at least for myself, My act is more like a, it needs to kind of sit.

[141] I don't really do well on like five minute talk shows doing like, you know, doing a four and a half minute set on Fallon.

[142] I need to like go out there.

[143] It takes me two minutes to get warm, you know what I'm saying?

[144] Like to get into a joke right away and to me, I just, I need time.

[145] I need to let it breathe.

[146] Yeah, no. the same way.

[147] I've always felt those late night talk show sets are so strange.

[148] Not only that, but you're basically opening for yourself.

[149] I mean, because no one has done stand -up yet, except a monologue, which is kind of stand -up, but kind of not, because it's all like what's happening today, and everybody knows that it's been written.

[150] It's weird.

[151] And then you go out and do a stand -up set, and oftentimes you see guys go out and they'll do a stand -up set, and they don't even have a microphone.

[152] You know, they're doing a stand -up set, and they don't know what the fuck to do with their hands.

[153] You know?

[154] It's The first time I did a stand -up set on TV, I said, I need the microphone.

[155] Yeah.

[156] I can't go out there.

[157] I've been doing comedy for, what, 12 years it had been?

[158] And then I got like a Leno.

[159] I need a physical microphone.

[160] Yeah, I'm used to this.

[161] I'm not going to go out there all of a sudden now.

[162] And like you said, what am I going to do with my hands?

[163] So every time I do a late night set, I need a microphone.

[164] Do you still do those?

[165] No, not anymore.

[166] I like to do, it's like comedy on the couch now.

[167] You know, it's like you go on Fallon or what have you, and it's all premeditated.

[168] Burr's the master at that.

[169] Oh, he's so good.

[170] He's the master.

[171] He's the best that's sitting down there and saying something fucked up and they're just like, you know, you know what I'm saying?

[172] He's just got a great way of handling the couch.

[173] Yeah, he makes it sound like just two guys talking and then there's cameras filming it.

[174] Sometimes it could look like, okay, you asked the question.

[175] I give the answer, but for whatever the reason, it's so natural for him.

[176] It's like, this guy looks like he's talking at a diner.

[177] Yeah, exactly.

[178] No, he's master the art of not giving a fuck.

[179] Yeah.

[180] He's very comfortable.

[181] And if you, you know, like, but that's who he is all day.

[182] You know, he just ramps it up a couple extra clicks when he goes on stage.

[183] Yeah.

[184] When you're hanging out with him, that's burr.

[185] Yeah, it's not a far departure from what we're seeing.

[186] He's got one thing down, too.

[187] That guy does not fuck with social media.

[188] He's not doing nothing.

[189] Oh, he's not even on it.

[190] I mean, he, like, kind of, I guess he posts stuff.

[191] Well, you know, I follow him on Instagram, and every once in a while I'll see something.

[192] Which, you know, from me, I've kind of weaned off the social media a little bit.

[193] I know a lot of guys live on it, and they take you into their lives.

[194] And here, you know, like, here, I follow Burke Kreischer.

[195] I do you're going to say Burr Chrysher.

[196] So every bit, I'm wondering if the people around Burke Kreischer, you know, I'm wondering if the people around Pricier are going to him.

[197] All right, Bert, you want to lose the phone?

[198] You know, like we're having dinner here.

[199] Oh, yeah.

[200] Because, man, he really gives you a bird's eye view into not only his family life, but he's on a ski lift and he's got, you know, skis and this and that.

[201] So, which I appreciate, it's just for me, I don't know, is there a little sense of privacy every once in a while?

[202] Well, in Bert's defense, what Bert did was he had.

[203] had a legit TV gig.

[204] He was doing Bert the Conqueror.

[205] And what was the other one?

[206] The other one where he was traveling around?

[207] Trip flip.

[208] Trip flip.

[209] And, you know, he's doing really well.

[210] But he was gone for long stretches of time, away from his family, and he wasn't getting to do much stand -up.

[211] And he and I had a conversation about it.

[212] And I said, dude, I go, you're too funny to be just working for a television show.

[213] Anybody can do a television show, but not everybody could do stand -up the way you did stand -up.

[214] And he, somewhere along the line, decided, all right, fuck this TV shit.

[215] And I'm just going to just going to concentrate on stand -up.

[216] And a big part of that was social media.

[217] So a big part of it for him was, you know, every year we have this sober October crew.

[218] It's Ari, Tom Segura, me and Bert, and we do a one -month challenge.

[219] Yeah.

[220] Like, last year was a fitness challenge.

[221] And before that, it was a hot yoga challenge.

[222] And before that, they had to lose weight.

[223] So that's when we've only done it twice.

[224] But it's a big thing, social media -wise.

[225] A bunch of people hop on board with it.

[226] A bunch of people join in, and they take a month off booze and two.

[227] And for Bert, that's fucking hard.

[228] That guy goes hard in the paint with the booze.

[229] So for him, the sober October stuff and the weight loss stuff propelled his career.

[230] I mean, everything started taking off.

[231] The Netflix special started taking off.

[232] Stand -up shows are sold out everywhere.

[233] People know them.

[234] they know he takes off his shirt when he goes on stage now it's a totally different thing so i get it with him because that's what brought him to the dance social media absolutely and that guys figured it out i'm just using bert as an example of a guy who's on social media a ton and has figured out a way to weave that into his kind of aura and what he does professionally but for me I feel, I get a little, I feel like everything I do on social media has to be funny.

[235] Like if I do a post, I feel like it has to be funny.

[236] I feel a little bit intimidated to put something out that's just me doing X, Y, and Z. And that's where I feel I fail at social media, and I feel like I've kind of weaned off it.

[237] And sometimes I look at my Instagram or my Twitter, it looks like a, I'm going to be here.

[238] I'm going to be here.

[239] Here's my shows.

[240] There's no real kind of substance to it at all.

[241] Yeah, that bothers some people.

[242] But the good thing is, I mean, I get what people go, oh, you do is promote your shows.

[243] Yeah, but I'm promoting my shows.

[244] You know, this is where I am.

[245] If you like my shows, that's where I'm going to be.

[246] I get it.

[247] But I see what you're saying as a comic, because Ari Schaffir said that too.

[248] Like, he doesn't want to put anything on Instagram or Twitter unless it's funny.

[249] Now, that's what he concentrates on.

[250] And he tries, he was off even saying that he was going to mock people that are comedians that say things that aren't funny.

[251] I'm like, well, then you're going to be mocking me. I say a lot of shit that's not funny.

[252] He's like, yeah, but you do other things.

[253] Which is weird because I do do other things, whether it's podcasting all the time or doing the UFC commentary.

[254] Like, you know, if I watch some fights and I start posting about MMA, I'm not trying to be funny.

[255] It's just what it is.

[256] Yeah.

[257] You know?

[258] Well, yeah, you're living in a lot of different worlds.

[259] And I look at your Instagram, you're cooking meat, right?

[260] Yeah.

[261] But for me, I'm thinking, And how to hell does he get the meat, like from top to bottom, like medium rare throughout?

[262] You know, like that's, for me, that's more of a learn.

[263] I can teach you, Sebastian.

[264] I can teach you.

[265] You know what the key is?

[266] Cooking it slowly.

[267] Okay.

[268] So you got like this grill or whatever.

[269] It's a traeger.

[270] Yes.

[271] The pellet grill.

[272] Pellet grill.

[273] I get you one.

[274] You want one?

[275] If it gets my meat the way it gets your meat, I would love one.

[276] I'll have them send you one, 100%.

[277] perfect um but yeah you know what one of those are do you know how they work no oh it's fucking fantastic it's uh they like say if someone wants to make a desk like this out of hardwood like this oak the sawdust they take the sawdust from from sawmills and they compress it and they make these little tiny pellets and so there's no chemicals no nothing it's just wood and then the the way a pellet grill works it's a bunch of really good companies that make I use a Traeger, but I've used a Yoder, that's a great one too, and Green Mountain Grills, that's a great one.

[278] They have, they're all worth the same way.

[279] They have a heating element and a worm drive.

[280] So you have this big bucket of these pellets, and then the worm drive feeds the pellets into this heating element.

[281] And the heating element makes the pellets catch fire.

[282] So once they catch fire, it's a matter of how much pellets and how much fan to keep the, that's what it looks like up there.

[283] So then...

[284] See, look at this job.

[285] No, no, I'm looking at this, and I'm like, that looks like a, that looks like a lot of work.

[286] It's not.

[287] First of all, you've got to get a side pellet the catch -all.

[288] But it's there.

[289] It comes with the whole thing.

[290] Yeah, but then you've got to go buy the pellets.

[291] Listen, I'll have it delivered to you.

[292] I'll have it delivered.

[293] I'm trying to get more people to cook like this because it's just wood and fire.

[294] It's the best.

[295] There's no chemicals.

[296] There's no bullshit, no lighter fluid, no gas, no nothing.

[297] So your entire meat, fire.

[298] Your entire meat process is on this grill.

[299] Except the end.

[300] At the end, this is a different grill than I have, because this one has a thing on the side.

[301] If you see that thing on the right -hand side, that looks like a direct flame thing.

[302] Looks like it's got gas as well, right?

[303] The one that I have doesn't have that, but at the end, I sear it at the very end on a cast -iron frying pan.

[304] So I cook it from between 225 to 275 degrees, which is pretty low, and I'll kick it until it hits an internal temperature, depending upon what I'm cooking, somewhere around 120 to the maximum, like 1 .30 -ish.

[305] Then I take it out, and then I have a cast iron frying plant as hot as a motherfucker.

[306] And I use either a beef tallow or grass -fed butter.

[307] And then I sear the shit out of that with some garlic, and I throw some time in there and fucking flip it over and get that good sear.

[308] And then I let it sit for a minimum of 10 minutes.

[309] And then you slice that motherful.

[310] Okay, so your meat is unbelievable.

[311] seen it on the...

[312] Thank you.

[313] Careful when you say that.

[314] The Instagram.

[315] So I do something similar, but I do it in the oven.

[316] I don't do it in the grill.

[317] I do a slow cook in the oven and then I take it out.

[318] I let it rest for, I think, 15 minutes and then I do a sear job.

[319] Oh, but I'm always looking for better ways to cook meat.

[320] And if you're saying that this pellet thing, does it add any flavor?

[321] Yes, that's what's good about it, because it's smoky hardwood.

[322] Gotcha.

[323] So it's all smoke.

[324] You lift the thing up.

[325] smoke's coming out of it and everything.

[326] It's a nice aromatic smoke.

[327] All right.

[328] That's what I need.

[329] It's like cherry smoke or oak or, you know, hickory or maple, all these different hard woods.

[330] You could choose a bunch of different kinds.

[331] Oh, perfect.

[332] Okay.

[333] So you're not getting that in the oven.

[334] No, no. It's different.

[335] And there's also a setting on a Traeger called Super Smoke where you hit it.

[336] It goes to, it can't be over 225, but that's what I like anyway.

[337] And you put it on 225 and it just constantly fans hard and pushes all this smoke.

[338] so it just gets this deep, rich, smoky flavor in the meat.

[339] Nice.

[340] Nice.

[341] But I like, if you're not into that, too, I like a regular Weber grill, like one of those little fucking Weber, that, you know, the little.

[342] Or a botchy.

[343] Yeah, what are those things called that you get?

[344] What would you call them?

[345] Like a drum, looks like a half a drum, like a barrel fucking thing.

[346] Yeah, but what are those, the way it looks like, it looks like a cup.

[347] It's like a black.

[348] Yeah, the black ones.

[349] Yeah.

[350] They're like steel.

[351] Those, but I like those with just lump charcoal.

[352] That puts a nice flavor on it too.

[353] The key is don't fuck around with chemicals.

[354] When you start using lighter fluid and shit, that adds weird taste to your food.

[355] It does.

[356] Yeah.

[357] And even if you buy that lump charcoal, those charcoal briquettes, rather, the charcoal briquettes, there's something in them that makes them that shape.

[358] They have to, and then they, you know, oh, they light fast.

[359] Yeah, because there's fucking gasoline in them.

[360] Like, but lump charcoal, meaning they just take hardwood and then they burn that shit down to, you know, that clunky looking lump charcoal.

[361] Just get that stuff and then take some newspaper and roll the newspaper up and one of those, you ever use one of those little, um, those chimneys?

[362] Do you know what those things are?

[363] No. It's a barbecue chimney.

[364] It's like, uh, you pour the charcoal in this tube and at the bottom of the tube, you take like pieces of paper and you're pumple on up balls and then you light the balls on fire and the fire rises up from the paper to the charcoal and it lights the charcoal on fire and then you dump the charcoal out into the grill and that that puts a nice flavor on it too that's just a but it's again the same kind of feeling it's like wood just this wood flavor on the meat it's nice I'm sold yeah yeah I'm a big fan of cooking I love it I went to this restaurant the other night to APL yeah I saw it on your Instagram.

[365] Good meat.

[366] I ate a 380 -day dry -age steak.

[367] This guy, I'm going to get him on here.

[368] He's a chef.

[369] His name's Adam Perry Lang, and he's the guy who runs the place.

[370] And I've never even heard of someone doing something like that.

[371] You hear like dry -age steak is like 30 days, right?

[372] He's taken it to some weird crazy place where he's got these steaks in his gigantic, like, walk -in freezer air where everything is dry aging.

[373] They have certain microbes they put in the air, and then they have fans.

[374] So it's like it's a certain type of bacteria that they want that covers over the meat, a certain type of mold.

[375] Oh, wow.

[376] So it delivers this very strange taste.

[377] It's not like any steak that I've ever had in my life.

[378] It's very weird.

[379] It's delicious.

[380] That's what it looks like.

[381] Oh, wow.

[382] Yeah, that's 380 -day dry -aged steak.

[383] it's see he says it smells like fog raw it does it's it smells very strange it's very different yeah and i've heard about this place um phenomenal and i haven't been there yet is this in hollywood i'll take you we'll go together come on after a show i'm ready to go man it's uh it's on vine in hollywood yeah it's phenomenal but it's it's not for everybody like that flip like my wife is not into it she's not it she's like uh yeah It's strong flavor.

[384] All right.

[385] It's a different flavor.

[386] Like, it doesn't taste like anything you've ever had before.

[387] Like, it doesn't taste like venison.

[388] It doesn't taste like bison.

[389] It doesn't taste like a riba that you get from Fleming's or something like that.

[390] It tastes very, very different.

[391] Oh, I love Fogra.

[392] If it tastes like that, then I'm in.

[393] It sort of does, but not really.

[394] It smells like fog raw.

[395] It tastes like itself.

[396] It doesn't taste like anything I've ever had.

[397] But it's, you know, that's when you're fucking geeking out hard.

[398] There's a show that I binge watch on YouTube.

[399] It's called The Meeked.

[400] meat show um uh i think the youtube channel is called eater and then the show is called the meat show and this guy just travels around going to all these different super high -end restaurants that serve steak and trying to see what their preparation is and what they do differently and you can fucking lose your mind with that stuff yeah you could go down a deep dark hole with me yeah but hey man i'm i'm i'm willing to try anything i'm more like uh experimental as far as when it comes to food my wife not so much he's very picky do you use recipes use cookbooks um i have used cookbooks in the past um but i do a majority of the cooking in my house uh i come from you know my mom used to cook a lot and uh and my father used to do a lot of fish so i don't do a lot of recipes it's more like dad how do you make the um the muscle uh for the muscle sauce and then he'll you know take me through it so nothing's written down it's this It's just like you're acting.

[401] A lot of improvising, yeah.

[402] Yeah, yeah.

[403] What do you do?

[404] Like, what do you do?

[405] You like linguine with clams?

[406] Like, what kind of stuff you cook?

[407] You know what?

[408] I like a lot of pasta.

[409] I like a nice bolognaise sauce.

[410] However, I'm trying to stay away from those types of meals because in the past I ballooned up to, you know, 205, 207, not giving a crap about my health or.

[411] or anything.

[412] And recently, I've lost some weight due to the fact that I've been watching my diet.

[413] Because, you know, I mean, I don't know.

[414] I mean, you're in shape.

[415] So you seem a lot more disciplined than a lot of comedians when it comes to health.

[416] But for myself, I have, you know, taken on a regimen of not drinking wine.

[417] I used to have, like, a little wine after the meal or during the meal.

[418] So I've eliminated that, and I've been doing some Pilates.

[419] Pilates, yeah.

[420] Nice.

[421] Which has helped my balance and my core.

[422] Underrated exercise.

[423] Very underrated.

[424] I got to tell you, Joe, this Pilates has really changed the way I look at physical fitness.

[425] You know who's really into Pilates?

[426] Sergei Kovalev.

[427] Really?

[428] Yeah, he just regained the WBC or WB?

[429] I forget which.

[430] which light heavyweight championship on uh saturday night he's the crusher this badass russian motherfucker and uh he just um just i mean at 35 i think he is just regained his title and his routine is very unusual and one of the things that he does for his exercise is Pilates and you know people make fun of it but the guy has got strength in all these weird places yeah full range of motion and flexibility and well that's what i have i'm 45 so my range of motion my my shoulders screwed up my legs my knee and this has given me an exercise where i could uh not only improve my flexibility but man i mean you walk out i'm drenched yeah and uh so yeah i'm getting back on the physical fitness thing because i've been on the road so so much that uh i kind of let that slip a little but I want to get the I want to get back yeah you know some guys are real good about working out on the road like Brian Callen goes everywhere he goes he'll go to a gym and he's real good at that like he'll go and go work out with kickboxers work out with jujitsu guys Brian does a lot of boxing so he'll find a like a local boxing gym and have a guy hold the pads for him maybe do even little light sparring he gets really into it on the road but I think that's the key is like to force yourself to not stay in your hotel and wait till the show goes you just got to force yourself to get out and go do something yeah i i wish i was a self -motivated guy but i need help so i've taken my buddy john petrelli is a personal trainer so he comes on the road with me and uh you know motivates me to oh that's great to get up and go we do swimming we do a lot of different things this guy's i i like them to you because he's into uh mixed martial arts he's into hunting he's one of these guys that is a great motivator and really helped me get my life back together when it comes to physical fitness because again, you know, I was lifting weights, everything was falling apart.

[431] And now with the swimming and Pilates, I feel like I have something to look forward to when it comes to working out because to go to the gym for me wasn't fun anymore.

[432] It's like, what am I going to do?

[433] Biceps and chest, it's over.

[434] I ain't I ain't doing 225 ever again That was my workout Since I was like 18 I'd go in Nothing changed It was 225s And then let's do some curls And you know Neglect the abs And go home Yeah neglect the legs Yeah no legs Although I did have I played soccer growing up So I did have those You know those soccer legs I got like Earl Campbell thighs Yeah, soccer is one of the best exercises ever.

[435] I mean, it's also a great way to blow your ACL out.

[436] Totally.

[437] Yeah, everybody's, you know, it's shifting left and right and all that.

[438] There's a fucking picture.

[439] You know Big Boy, the DJ?

[440] His fucking son, there's a video, he retweeted it.

[441] His son is a football player, and there's a video of his son where, you know, someone's trying to tackle him, and he moves like a fucking ghost.

[442] It's incredible.

[443] You watch them, like, it was one of those rare things where you see something and you're, like, legitimately impressed.

[444] Like, holy shit, I watched it like five times in a row.

[445] This kid's footwork is incredible.

[446] Really?

[447] Yeah, but footwork, like, that kind of, like, who's in better shape than soccer players?

[448] They're constantly sprinting.

[449] Yeah, up and down.

[450] The whole game is like, and you have to maintain that stamina.

[451] You're constantly sprinting.

[452] Yeah, there's a lot of mileage you're putting on in a soccer game.

[453] Although, you know what gives me and you're, you are probably going to.

[454] to laugh as well as your listeners believe me pickleball you ever play that pickle bowl what is that pickle ball pickle ball it's like tennis and ping pong and you play it in a gymnasium so it's like a it's a net okay and it's you got paddles and talk about moving side to side it's it's fun and you burn a ton of calories and you do it in a gym you do it in a gym and like a like a basketball court so it's like racquetball but there's a net there's a net you're not bouncing it off the wall you're you're playing it like tennis yeah it's a court small net and you have uh Jamie's got some.

[455] Is this what's on that, like, in Venice, those little small courts?

[456] Is this it?

[457] A lot of old people.

[458] Is this it?

[459] Look at these kids.

[460] Hello, my name is Fred.

[461] This is my wife Wendy.

[462] Listen, you're going to laugh, all right?

[463] There's a lot of old people that play this, but I'm telling you, it's, this is embarrassing.

[464] And so you each have your, these four people?

[465] Yeah, you could do doubles, but me and my buddy play just one on one.

[466] And I'm telling you, it's not.

[467] It looks like it's fun.

[468] It's really fun, but you burn a lot of calories, and you don't even know you're doing it because I'm diving and...

[469] Right.

[470] It's one of the exercises that we really enjoy.

[471] So listen to what he's got you doing.

[472] He's got you doing Pilates and Pickleball.

[473] What's next?

[474] I have no idea.

[475] He's working his way.

[476] You know what he's working towards.

[477] I don't have to tell you.

[478] I'm telling you.

[479] I know a lot of 68 -year -old people play.

[480] It is, but if you're looking for a low, kind of impact, fun activity.

[481] It looks good.

[482] If you're looking at it.

[483] No, it does.

[484] Oh, yeah.

[485] Look, I know tennis is fucking hard.

[486] Tennis, man. It's another thing.

[487] This is like tennis reduced to a smaller court, basically.

[488] Probably healthier for you.

[489] Yeah.

[490] Not as hard on the ankles and the knees.

[491] It's not as hard.

[492] Yeah.

[493] But we'll have to go.

[494] After we have our steak, we'll go for a game.

[495] Yeah.

[496] Pickle ball.

[497] Where would one go?

[498] They have courts in Venice Beach.

[499] That's what I thought it was.

[500] I've always seen these small tennis courts there, and I didn't know really what people were playing on.

[501] So they're calling it paddle tennis.

[502] Yeah, maybe this.

[503] But this is what it is.

[504] These guys look ridiculous.

[505] They should just go home.

[506] This is outrageous.

[507] What are you doing, sir?

[508] I'm telling you put a little English.

[509] Listen, I grew up playing ping pong.

[510] I'm really good at ping pong.

[511] Oh, you really?

[512] Yeah.

[513] So this is like a larger version of ping pong.

[514] Yeah.

[515] It looks like it's fun All bullshit aside That looks like a good time It's fun believe me I know your listeners I'd die and laughing right now But I'm telling you It's it's good So that's what I'm doing show So you take your trainer with you on your road On the road That's the move Where did you meet this guy I've known him for 20 years I met him on the set of days of our lives Doing extra work Days of our lives When I first came out to L .A. In 1990 I was the type of guy I would do these weird, like, mailings to get work, right?

[516] So for days of our lives, no, it was general hospital, general hospital, take a headshot, and then take a Post -it note, and I would write on the Post -it note, ready to operate.

[517] I stuck it to the headshot, and I sent it out.

[518] So I would do these, like, weird little mailings where, oh, you know, maybe the person opening the mail would go, Oh, I get a little chuckle and whatnot.

[519] So I met him doing extra work.

[520] This is what I used to do for some extra cash.

[521] And we became fast friends.

[522] He's an Italian kid.

[523] And similar upbringing, middle class.

[524] He's from New York.

[525] I'm from Chicago.

[526] And just a great, great guy.

[527] He set me up with my wife.

[528] I mean, that's how I know my wife through him.

[529] And he's been a huge, huge help for me. That's awesome, man. If you can find a guy who actually knows what he's doing, And that is so huge because they also know what you need.

[530] You know, they're like, hey, you know, we need to concentrate more on your rear delts and the issues you're having with your shoulders or your mobility.

[531] So we're going to work on some bandwork first and warm you up.

[532] And you could fuck yourself up just doing it by yourself.

[533] I did.

[534] You really could.

[535] I did.

[536] And you're right.

[537] He knows what to work on, what to loosen up.

[538] Let's not jump right into the exercise.

[539] Let's warm it up a little bit.

[540] So, yeah, I credit him to kind of get me back on.

[541] on the health and fitness and plus we're taking our own meals that's another thing uh we we pack our own meals we get like a service and we bring uh breakfast lunch and dinner on the road and that's our meals whoa you're taking it to another level yeah well it's another well listen i was going out having uh dry aged at midnight you know i'm i was eating a full blown steak asparagus and baked potato and then I would go to bed Yeah Sounds good It's delicious I like it But you wake up and your blood ain't moving right That is true You know sometimes I will come home from the store And I'm hungry and I'll eat late night And then I'll wake up almost hungover I'm like what?

[542] I didn't even drink I ate I ate like a thousand calories at 2 .30 in the morning Yeah Well last night my wife and I had sushi I woke up And I don't The sodium was unbelievable I was like Jeez From one thing as sushi I look like I need to go sweat in your sauna Is it sodium and sushi Like what's it from the salt It's the soy sauce And that's where at least I'm picking it up from Who are all these guys Showing up at our door?

[543] Hmm I'll check Okay Okay But sodium is not what would it be in the soy sauce the soy sauce right green soy sauce that's like the low you know they always have the low one and the high one they have the two different yeah low sodium and high sodium I think last night I had the high sodium and I woke up and uh it wasn't good how much soy sauce are you using you know what I like when you like the soy sauce and then I like the uh wasabi I put a clump of that in in the soy sauce and then you mix it up and I mix it up make like a slurry yeah it gets it gets uh thick so when i eat the sushi it just it burns my nose that's that's how i like it i like it that way too sometimes uh sushi chefs don't like it when you do that they they get offended what disrespecting the fish yeah yeah yeah should stand alone did you ever see that movie giro dreams of sushi oh is that the guy that's got that uh sushi joint at the uh in the train station yeah yeah yeah have you seen that i've seen half of it it's really weird because it changed my idea of what sushi is.

[544] I used to think, oh, they're cutting fish up, they slap it on a piece of rice.

[545] It's great.

[546] It's good.

[547] Taste good, clean, easy for you.

[548] Now I realize, like, this guy, it's like his life's dedication to putting together the perfect tastes.

[549] Like, there was one guy that's been working on this egg plate for a year trying to perfect it, trying to get it right.

[550] Similar to like a joke, you know, trying to make the joke so perfect.

[551] This is trying to get the dish so perfect.

[552] Yeah, but I would never thought that with sushi with suit.

[553] I thought like if someone said a sushi chef, I'd be like, oh, yeah, right, okay.

[554] Like he's not really a chef.

[555] It's just cutting up fish.

[556] Yeah, but there's something about the way they're preparing these, I mean, yeah, it's one thing if you're getting like sashimi, it's just salmon.

[557] But if they're putting it together with rice and, you know, it's like a science.

[558] Yeah, no, it's definitely a science.

[559] It's also a science because they age the fish, which I didn't know.

[560] I didn't know that.

[561] Yeah, I was watching this YouTube thing where these guys were going to the sushi place, and they were saying that tuna, they will have their tuna in the refrigerator for as long as two weeks in preparation for sushi.

[562] And just like dry -aged steak, the aging of the tuna breaks down, the bacteria will break down some of the tissue and make it softer and more delicate and change the flavor profile.

[563] Yeah, no, I had no idea.

[564] I thought they caught it.

[565] Yeah.

[566] Don't you freeze fish for it to be sashimi grade?

[567] Is that the deal?

[568] I don't know.

[569] Is that the case?

[570] I don't know.

[571] Let's find out.

[572] What makes something's just he me grade?

[573] I saw there was a guy who caught a big -ass fucking tuna, and they sold it for $3 million.

[574] That's what I had queued up until you made me. Yeah, but go back to that.

[575] What in the fuck is that?

[576] $5 ,000 a pound.

[577] Japan's king of tuna.

[578] Is that racist?

[579] Is that racist?

[580] The way I, said it it seemed racist uh the first tuna auction of the year at tokyo's new fish market set a record price more than three million for a giant bluefin tuna a critically endangered species wow yeah see that's where you got to go man is it critically endangered and if it's if it is so should you really be cutting that fucker up yeah i don't know about that when i was in uh hawaii uh we caught some uh yellow tail.

[581] My youngest daughter loves fishing.

[582] So I went out with her and we went on this boat and we were actually jigging.

[583] There's like this shelf and this big drop off and these yellow tails hang out there.

[584] We caught a gang of them.

[585] And one of the things they were saying was that the big island had a farm where they were farming yellow tail.

[586] Like they had this gigantic like sort of netted in area where the fish couldn't leave and they were they were trapped in this area.

[587] But then this storm came and broke down all the nets and the fish escaped and now they're everywhere and you're catching them we caught like six or seven of them and they're fucking big like 10 pounds and you're fighting them on like a light spinning rods like really awesome awesome time but they were unbelievably delicious but these are non -native they brought them over there and released them like they better start doing that with other fish right like they really should set up these fish farms and just release these motherfuckers out into the ocean because they're just taking nets and pulling them across the bottom of the floor it's not even it's like such a there's something to be said about going out and catching the fish like you're saying rather than taking a a net and just scooping everything up in its path everything turtles dolphins whatever the fuck is there everything gets jacked and the problem is you know there's who knows how many countries have boats that are doing that and they're all operating in international of water and i don't know what the fucking laws are but they're just pulling what and they you know the other thing they do that's fucked up when they're done a lot of times they cut the the net loose and they just leave it in the ocean they just drop the net to the bottom of the ocean it's funny they have the regulations for like hunting yeah they don't have it like in the ocean you know it's because nobody owns it you know you only own like a certain amount of your shore like off like say from malibu out i don't know how much they the united states owns but we only own a certain amount and then it becomes international waters international waters it's like kind of anybody could be out there it's weird i mean it makes sense but there's no i don't think there's any like i think if you have a boat you could just kind of go anywhere that's international water just no regulations here what is what parts of the ocean are considered international water territorial waters or territorial seas defined by a 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

[588] It's a belt of coastal waters extending at most 12 nautical miles from the baseline, usually the mean low water mark of the coastal state.

[589] So 12 miles.

[590] So 12 miles out or 13 .8 miles?

[591] Yeah, nautical miles.

[592] Oh, nautical miles is different, huh?

[593] Hmm.

[594] Interesting.

[595] Why is it different?

[596] How weird is that?

[597] Nautical miles is different than regular miles The fuck get it together Don't call it a mile then you fucks Imagine hey buddy I'll meet you at 12 miles All right 12 nautical miles And the guy's a mile and a point eight away from you Although stores use the label Sushi grade fish there is no official standards For using this label The only regulation is that parasitic fish Let's just salmon Should be frozen to kill any parasites For being consumed raw The best ones are assigned grade one Which is usually what would be sold as sushi grade but what about sashimi grade is what he said is the same thing that's why I looked up and that's what popped up you're not supposed to eat salmon raw apparently salmon is a freshwater fish and salmon it can fuck you up but you could pull a tuna out of the water right out of the ocean yeah I have a buddy of mine who went tuna fishing off of San Diego they caught a tuna and they sliced it up and ate it right there on the boat right after they pulled it out of the water that I haven't done but that that to me would be the best eating right out of the water I mean I just hope they don't wait until there's nothing left before they start doing something to save them.

[598] It just doesn't, it doesn't seem like, I mean, if you're taking a fish and you're buying it for $3 million, that's almost like a scene in a movie, right?

[599] That's like the end.

[600] This was one of the last tuna.

[601] Look, they bought it for $3 million, and everybody's smiling and they're cutting it up.

[602] It's like, hunting regulations are critical, but you could, you know what the population is.

[603] It's very, they, they, the fish and wildlife departments have all these different methods they use, whether it's using reports from hunters, whether it's, they fly over with airplanes and helicopters and things along those lines, whatever they use, they have a bunch of different ways that they can determine what the population is, and then they determine the population of predators, how many animals are lost, how many animals are shot during any hunting season, and then they determine how many tags can be divvied out.

[604] So like, say, if you live in an area, there might be 500 tags available, but there might be like two thousand hunters that are applying for those tags so most people are not going to get it it's uh it's a very smart way they've they've really got it down to a science and because of that there's more white -tailed deer in this country than than even when Columbus landed yeah it's uh they've they've got a really good system yeah if they could figure something out for the ocean problem is enough to get everybody to cooperate and some like they can't even get japan to stop killing whales like there's there's certain japanese folks who uh they have this really sneaky thing they do and there's this um conservation group called the sea shepherds and they catch these fucking people all the time but what they basically do is they say we're a research boat and they use a research boat and go slaughter whales and then sell the whales but they pretend it's that it's research but if they kill a whale certain countries still value parts of whales They make things with it.

[605] What the fuck do they make with whales?

[606] I think they make some perfumes, like what, but people are still killing whales.

[607] It gets weird when things are smart.

[608] That's when it gets weird.

[609] You know, something as smart as a fucking whale.

[610] Yeah, I mean, yeah, in these countries, they're using, like you said, parts of the fish for, you know, they put it on their mantle.

[611] They got like a, I don't know, a tooth.

[612] Yeah.

[613] Or what have you from a whale or a shark or whatever it is.

[614] Well, that's the big thing with rhinos.

[615] These guys cut the rhino horns off and they drink it like in a tea and it's supposed to make your dick hard.

[616] Oh, it's, see, this is what I'm talking about.

[617] You know these things.

[618] I mean, I don't know how to hell you remember all this stuff.

[619] I'm going to, I've just forgot the mileage off the coast.

[620] 13 .8 nautical miles.

[621] 13 .8 miles, 12 nautical miles.

[622] 1 .8 difference.

[623] 1 .8 difference at 12 miles, which is, who knows how long we get to 500 miles out.

[624] You got to do the math.

[625] It's crazy.

[626] It's stupid.

[627] Yeah.

[628] Yeah, I don't know how to remember these things.

[629] It's a fucking screwy brain.

[630] I wish I had your memory, Joe.

[631] That's what I'm saying.

[632] It's not the best.

[633] I'm telling you.

[634] It's like there's a lot of shit that I don't remember I just remember things that are interesting You know I have a It's an odd It's an odd sense of memory But the the rhino horn thing is kind of sad Because it doesn't even work You know especially in this day and age Where people can get Viagra That works Yeah But there's something about it I think in some Asian cultures Where it's considered like a sign of wealth You drive a Rolls -Royce You drink rhino tea this guy's a baller you know he doesn't give a fuck he drinks wino tea you know like oh man the guy's drinking rhino tea what a guy yeah this but there's something about that like you know yeah i want to eat an extinct animal i want to bring a woolly mammoth back to life and shoot it in the head like there's some people that are like that like they they want to be the ultimate conqueror and you know i want to eat a whale dick you know what i mean like there's there's people that are like that i'm just good looking for a nice steak joe a nice steak are a good linguine Meany with clam sauce.

[635] That place that I saw you at when I was with my kids, Medeos, that's a sensational Italian restaurant.

[636] That place is legit.

[637] Well, that place moved.

[638] See, if you've been to the new place in Beverly Hills?

[639] Where did they move?

[640] Beverly Hills somewhere, yeah.

[641] So that place is excellent.

[642] What's in the old spot?

[643] They're redoing the whole building.

[644] That's why they had to move.

[645] So, I mean, I think that's one of the last times I've eaten there when I saw you and your kids having a meal there.

[646] Yeah, that place is good.

[647] The pastas are fantastic.

[648] As good as it gets.

[649] It's delicious.

[650] They make the perfect linguine with clams.

[651] They do.

[652] It's like perfect.

[653] It is.

[654] It's not too soupy.

[655] You know, some people get crazy with the liquid and you get it.

[656] It's like it's almost like bathing in a soup.

[657] Mm -hmm.

[658] But they have it.

[659] It's nice.

[660] It's al dente.

[661] It's got some chew to it.

[662] And the place is authentic too.

[663] I mean, they got like guys walking around there from like Sicily.

[664] Yes.

[665] And Italy.

[666] And the owner's.

[667] old man that kind of walks around and make sure everything's okay and he's speaking Italian and yeah you feel like you're in you're in Italy when you saw Al Pacino there so you know you did yes I did wow yes I did that's crazy you know I saw there Shannon Dardy remember her she's like the original 90210 the original bad girl yeah there's a lot of celebrities that pop in I saw Jay Z and Beyonce come in oh shit oh yeah shit so they come Went through the back door?

[668] Did they?

[669] Yeah.

[670] Oh, it was like a trap.

[671] There's a back.

[672] There's a tunnel under the ground.

[673] Let's put the celebrities in.

[674] Pop them up through.

[675] Yeah.

[676] Oh, man. So, what was it like doing Madison Square Garden?

[677] You did four shows in Madison Square Garden.

[678] He did it in the round.

[679] Yeah.

[680] So.

[681] How many shows have you done in the round before?

[682] Leading up to then, I'd say probably 15, 16.

[683] Oh, so you've done quite a few in the round.

[684] Yeah.

[685] Do you like it?

[686] it's a different animal and my act is very physical and expressive so it kind of works for that type of environment although you have to listen there's a screen above you so people are watching screens when they go to shows anyway but the challenge to do it in the round is to hit those people within the first five rows that maybe can't see this screen because once you go to the other side of the stage you get your back to them and it's kind of difficult to look at you there yeah wow that's so crazy that's 18 ,000 people yeah that's fucking bananas dude so yeah it's been for new york new york for me has been really really good to me over the years um obviously i'm italian and there's a lot of italians in the new york city area but what i think has happened is i'm talking about like family and i'm talking about like the immigrant experience, my father being an immigrant from Sicily.

[687] And what I'm seeing at my shows is not only an 88 -year -old grandmother, but a 12 -year -old kid and kind of everybody in between.

[688] Wow.

[689] So it's very broad.

[690] It's comedy, and I'm not toot my own horn here, I'm just saying it's comedy that you could come and not cringe because the material might be a little blue or what have you.

[691] Joey Diaz.

[692] Imagine if you had Joey Diaz over for you at Madison Square Garden.

[693] Oh, my God.

[694] Let me tell you, Cotsucker, this is how you eat that muffler.

[695] What?

[696] What?

[697] Yeah, that would be a little shocked.

[698] Oh, my God.

[699] So, yeah, I mean, that's why I think I was able to do four shows at Madison Square Garden just because my audience is a large swath of multi -generational.

[700] It's multi -generational.

[701] It's just a lot of different people at the shows.

[702] And to do Madison Square Garden for me, as we were talking, And prior to getting on here, I was saying that I think I took a little too much on my plate.

[703] And what I mean by that is coming up in comedy, I used to say yes to everything.

[704] The phone used to ring and it was my agent.

[705] You want to do?

[706] Yeah.

[707] Put me down.

[708] I'm in.

[709] Well, you're trying to work.

[710] Trying to work.

[711] Yeah.

[712] And what has happened, once you get too busy, I think, you need to learn to, you know, press the breaks a little bit.

[713] So I did a ton of press when I was in New York, and I had family there.

[714] I had friends there.

[715] And I think I spread myself a little too thin.

[716] So when the shows came, I don't feel like I was operating at an optimal level to perform.

[717] Yeah, it was fun.

[718] I still had a good time.

[719] But, you know, the more and more I do stand up, the more and more I feel like you really got to be clear.

[720] you're headed in the moment and you can't you can't overwork yourself it's just who i am i've always been a worker i mean when i wasn't going to college and i had time off in the summer i was working uh when i i used to work summers as a janitor during high school so all the time was always occupied with work and i feel if i'm not working i feel like or i'm not doing press or i'm not doing anything i i feel like um you're slacking yeah i feel like because my father is always put in my head you know what do you what are you you know what are you doing like he'd come home and go what you do today you know i'm like i don't know all that angry face yeah yeah it was like all right you know you're gonna paint the fence this this week and i'm gonna paint the fence so there's always something to do and that work ethic has bled into my career and now that i've had some success in my career, I think I have to kind of pull it back a little bit and not say yes to an interview that maybe, you know.

[721] It's not going to help, but it is going to take up a lot of your time.

[722] Yes, exactly.

[723] Yeah, no, I'm in the same boat.

[724] And, I mean, I think sometimes even I do too many podcasts, I think, but there's a lot of fucking people I want to talk to.

[725] So it's hard.

[726] But I think I've definitely stopped doing interviews and all those different things for that reason.

[727] It's just there's only a certain amount of time you have.

[728] And, you know, like you, I have a family.

[729] Like you, I exercise.

[730] And I have a lot of hobbies, man, between archery and martial arts and reading and just watching documentaries.

[731] And, you know, is it going to help?

[732] I don't want to be any more famous.

[733] You know, we were talking about this earlier.

[734] I don't, it's good.

[735] I'm working.

[736] It's all I want to do.

[737] What I want to do now is do my best work.

[738] Yeah.

[739] That's my number one, objective, whether it's stand -up, whether it's UFC commentary, whether it's doing a podcast, I want to do my best work.

[740] And I don't think that I can do my best work if I'm scattered.

[741] And I often am.

[742] I think you put, hit the nail on the head, doing your best work, whatever you're doing.

[743] So if you're kind of coming here today and do a podcast, whatever you did prior to this cannot really take away from the energy that you need to do this.

[744] Same thing with the MMA and then announcing and the same thing with the stand -up comedy i feel that sometimes i jeopardize myself and i take on too much and i've realized that and i'm going to kind of because that i got a i got another baby coming so congratulations thank you family's growing and you know i come home and i'm looking at my daughter she's 20 months and i mean those moments for me are like do i do i want to like take my daughter out for lunch or do I want to do an interview in Idaho?

[745] Right, right.

[746] You know, I know you got to sell tickets.

[747] That's part of the game.

[748] But I think I need to kind of just choose my roads a little careful.

[749] Well, that's one of the good things about social media is that it allows you these paths to distribute, you know, like flyers and you put little posters of where you're going to be and stuff like that.

[750] And it can reach your actual fans as opposed to just, you know, random person who's listening to the radio or random person who picks up the newspaper.

[751] Well, that's what I think.

[752] But I like to reach the person that doesn't know who I am.

[753] It's fun to go to your fan base.

[754] But, you know, I'm sure a lot of the people that listen to your podcast maybe not know who I am.

[755] And it's a joy for me to get someone, who is this guy?

[756] maybe check them out and to get a new fan opposed to maybe feeding the fan base I currently have.

[757] I'm always looking for new people to come on board with what I'm doing.

[758] So, you know, when I do a radio show in Peoria at 7 o 'clock in the morning, I'm hoping someone's in their car going, check them out.

[759] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[760] And even if it was two people that bought the ticket, for me, I would think that it was worth it getting up to get two more fans right that makes sense sometimes though it's it hurts the end product and the reason why i'm i'm here is the stand -up comedy right if that starts to slack then everything else falls apart yeah i feel the same way and i've learned over the years what the what the mistakes are like where i can screw it up like podcasts for instance i don't do like uh i used to do like a hot yoga class at 10 30 it gets out at noon i do a podcast at one i can't i don't do that anymore more because I found that I was just too fucking worn out because I do a 90 minute yoga class and I'm I come in here and I'm still like oh yeah what what are we talking about like I'm still spacey I need two hours I need two hours and I need to drink a shitload of water and then I'm good to go but I need that extra hour so now I'll do like an 830 class or something like that or maybe even a six in the morning class and so when I have a 1 p .m. podcast I'm fucking completely acclimated but I had to do that by trial and error absolutely and that's where I'm at I think I'm trying to figure out what what the balance is of of creating a life outside of stand up and then giving all I can to stand up and and even I do a podcast with Pete Correlli that we did a live podcast for the first time and I don't know if you've seen this the podcast listener is a different audience than what's arriving at my shows two different audiences there's a there's a definite podcast listener out there.

[761] I mean, people that listen and consume podcasts.

[762] And it crosses over.

[763] Don't get me wrong.

[764] But I went to do the podcast in Orlando and totally different, totally different vibe.

[765] It's nice to see who the hell is listening to this stuff.

[766] And we did it.

[767] I don't know if you've ever done a live cast, but I'm sure you're like an anomaly.

[768] You got like fans from all different walks of life.

[769] I mean, you're in the stand -up world, you're in the mixed martial arts world, you're in the podcast world.

[770] So it must be a lot of different people coming to your shows.

[771] Yeah, there's a lot of weirdos.

[772] Yeah.

[773] I would say, if you see a dude with shaved head and tattoos and he's kind of jacked, he probably knows who I am.

[774] But it's like a lot of people that are into the science podcasts or the, you know, podcasts with interesting intellectuals.

[775] There's like there's a lot of yeah but there's just people that don't like the mixed martial art stuff and they like me for other things you know it's it's hard you know you can't please everybody you know you can't it's not really possible and then along the way you find that out and you piss a bunch of people off you know they're like you know I don't like that part of you like okay I don't know what to tell you yeah you can't make everybody happy no but especially if you do a lot of shit you know but um I'm lucky with the job with the UFC that they don't really care about the other things that I do because if I was working for a more sensitive organization you know obviously it's a fucking cage fighting promotion it's like how sensitive can you get yeah but with some social issues you know it's like if I was working for the NBA I probably been fired a decade ago yeah yeah the MMA is definitely a or the UFC is definitely an animal in itself how did how did you get into that position did you know Dana White and you started For you, I always wanted to ask you this at the comedy store, how did you become kind of the voice of the UFC?

[776] Well, I started in 1997.

[777] I was the post -fight interviewer.

[778] It was just a position that was available and the UFC was very small back then.

[779] Very few people knew what it was.

[780] It was off a cable.

[781] You couldn't get it on cable.

[782] You could only get it on satellite.

[783] And they needed someone to do post -fight interviews.

[784] But you were in that world to begin with?

[785] I was in the martial arts world.

[786] You know, I used to teach martial arts for a living before I became a comedian.

[787] I used to fight.

[788] I fought in a lot of taekwondo tournaments and had some kickboxing fights.

[789] And I'd always been a martial artist since I was a kid.

[790] And so I just was interested in watching the UFC.

[791] And then I started training in Jiu -Jitsu.

[792] And when I was training in Jiu -Jitsu, I was just a white belt.

[793] I was just starting out.

[794] That's when I got hired by the UFC to be a post -fight interviewer.

[795] But I only did that for two years.

[796] And then I quit.

[797] It was just too much.

[798] And it was actually like I was losing money.

[799] I would make more money doing a weekend at a comedy club than I would doing it, doing the UFC.

[800] And it just got to a point.

[801] It was just, it was too much of a pain in the ass.

[802] And so I still remained a fan, but I backed away.

[803] And then the UFC was purchased by this company called Zoufa in 2001.

[804] And when that happened, they started putting on shows in Vegas.

[805] And I would go there with my friends.

[806] They got me free tickets.

[807] They reached out, and they would try to get celebrities to go sit there so that it would, because they were very small at the time.

[808] And they were trying, they were hemorrhaging money, and they were trying to build it up.

[809] And in talking to Dana White, one day, you know, I was talking to him about fights going on in Japan.

[810] I'm like, have you ever seen Sato fight?

[811] Do you know, what do you know, Sakharah?

[812] Do you know this guy?

[813] And I was bringing all these names.

[814] And he was like, do you want to do commentary?

[815] I'm like, I don't want to do commentary, man. I'm here to get drunk and watch people kick the shit out of each other.

[816] I'm not here to work.

[817] and he talked me into it for one show at UFC 37 and a half it was a show that was on one of those Fox sports networks smaller networks and I think it was the best damn sports show period was a part of it I did that and the rest was history and then I did like 12 of them for free like the UFC didn't have any money well they were hemorrhaging money they had there were rich people that owned it but it was not a profitable venture and I said look just get me there get me my friend's tickets and I'll do it and so that's how I operated for like over a year and then I just became the commentator just weird that's crazy it's just Dana White he's he's a crazy man and he's got a you know a weird way of looking at things that that's very effective and in his crazy mind he's like let's take this guy who's never even thought about being a commentator and make him our commentator I mean I didn't know what the fuck I was doing I mean I really didn't I didn't have any training at all in sports commentary.

[818] I just would see what was happening and start talking about it, you know, which is really like the wrong, I was more even play by play and color.

[819] It was like doing both of them at the same time.

[820] It was really weird.

[821] And as far as you doing that, do you get any notes from anybody going, hey, Joe, try this, try that, or you just developed that whole, that voice all on your own?

[822] 100 % of my own.

[823] The only thing that I had was there's, like, Mark Delagrata, who's a good friend of mine, he is, he's one of the top trainers in the world, he's in the truck, and I can communicate with him.

[824] There's a button where I can communicate with him, and we talk about stuff.

[825] Like, I can say, does he look like he's limping to you?

[826] And he's like, yeah, there's something wrong with his leg.

[827] I go the left leg, right?

[828] He's like, yeah, yeah, and then I'll start talking about it.

[829] Like, I'll be able to bounce it back and forth with him.

[830] Or sometimes I just, it's obvious, and I'll say it myself, then I'll ask him, like, am I wrong?

[831] Is he dropping his hand?

[832] Or is this This is a nice, it's a nice thing to have someone to bounce things off.

[833] It used to be Eddie Bravo.

[834] Eddie Bravo used to do it as well, where I would be able to talk to him about certain positions because he would be in the truck, and I'd be able to ask him, like, which his left legs in jeopardy right now, right?

[835] Or he needs to step over with his right leg.

[836] We'd be able to go over, because there's some aspects of martial arts that are extremely technical, especially jujitsu, when things go to the ground.

[837] And you're trying to do commentary, and I have to decipher which is his left.

[838] leg, which is his right leg.

[839] Where's he tied up?

[840] Where is he tangled?

[841] And I'm doing it in real time while I'm trying to be entertaining and talking.

[842] It's very complicated.

[843] But nobody taught me how to do it.

[844] I just figured out how to do it.

[845] And you're not looking at like a Jim Lampley or anybody in the broadcasting world when it comes to fights of, or this is something that you developed on your own.

[846] Like sometimes you look as a comedian, you look at other comedians, say the priors or Carlins or whatnot.

[847] You didn't have a kind of like a mentor?

[848] No, not necessarily because there wasn't one there wasn't a lot of guys that did it in in for martial arts commentary there was um john paredi who was excellent he was one of the very best who was actually the ufc matchmaker and a commentator when i first started he was very good uh there's a guy named jeff armstrong he was very good too he was there when i first started too he actually ran a promotion called hook and shoot he's excellent he really knows what he's doing and then there's a few other guys, you know, that also did it.

[849] But there's like what I do as far as like Stan doing commentary for MMA, there's maybe 10 guys in the world to do it.

[850] Yeah.

[851] You know, that really do it on a high level.

[852] Maybe 10 guys.

[853] Wow.

[854] I mean, between one FC, between, you know, Brave and then the UFC, Bellator, PFL, there's maybe, maybe 10 guys on the planet that are doing it, just not a lot of people and there's a lot in the UFC now where fighters are now transitioning to become commentators and oftentimes they're the best at it like Michael Bisping just did this past weekend he was the UFC middleweight champion and he's awesome at it already did one one show they know more obviously because they've been in there you know they have that added element of actually having fought in the UFC which is gigantic yeah I could see I think Pauli Malinaji he seems to be very very Fantastic.

[855] He's very good.

[856] He's very good.

[857] Very technical, but also very aware.

[858] And fighters can see things that maybe the average person can't see.

[859] Like they see when someone's slowing down.

[860] They see when someone's laying back.

[861] They see when someone got hurt to the body.

[862] They see like little things that maybe a person who's never fought before doesn't see.

[863] Yeah.

[864] The knowledge is key.

[865] And plus the excitement level, too.

[866] I mean, when someone gets hit for the announcer to like react to that in a real way, for an audience member, it's like, you know, it's exciting yeah no that's what's up yeah like when so if someone's boring and bland and they don't really care what's going on like the audience feels it and they feel it when you're faking it too yeah if you try to pump it up and fake it do you have any other hobbies outside of uh comedy um i'm not a big hobby guy but growing up my parents always used to say do what are you interested in do you do anything so they got to be happy now right yeah no they're like holy shit look you worked out my hobby is a stand -up comedy really i mean um i like to cook don't get me wrong i like to travel um my wife and i really really enjoy going to different places and uh i love hotels it's uh i mean and these aren't really hobbies it's just uh i like hospitality so that's my that's my passion uh i like having uh people over at the house and uh making them feel good that's That's what I like to do.

[867] I like to entertain.

[868] If I find out you like a specific drink or you like something that's, you know, I take notice of what people like.

[869] So when you come to my house, I got what you like there.

[870] That's very Italian.

[871] It's very, very Italian.

[872] And I've always had, you know, I work for the four seasons hotel and that chain taught me to anticipate people's needs.

[873] So anytime I have anything at my house, whether it be a birthday party, a get together, if it's going to be a fight, I make sure when you come over, you are taking care of not only with your alcohol needs.

[874] Here's one.

[875] I ain't a pot guy, right?

[876] I don't smoke pot.

[877] You want to start?

[878] Listen.

[879] But I got pot at the house just in case you want some.

[880] Really?

[881] So I thought, you know, you have alcohol, you have beer, you have scotch, you have wine.

[882] Right.

[883] So what if someone doesn't have a taste for alcohol and they want a joint?

[884] Wow.

[885] I got a couple of joints.

[886] Will you get it from PDC from the Comedy Store?

[887] I think I got it from...

[888] Gino from L .A. Speedweed?

[889] No, I think it's a...

[890] What's the Med -Men?

[891] Yeah, Med -Men.

[892] Yeah, I went in there.

[893] You went in there specifically just for hospitality.

[894] Hospitality.

[895] If you came over and I go, Joe, you want a joint?

[896] And you're like, yeah, you want to smoke?

[897] No, I don't smoke, but, you know, there, have that it.

[898] Just to have.

[899] Right.

[900] Even a cigar.

[901] I got cigar.

[902] I don't smoke cigars.

[903] You want one?

[904] I got it.

[905] I don't know.

[906] I get joy in making others happy.

[907] So when you looked at your house, did you look at your house and go, this is a good house to entertain?

[908] I always see that like when you see like a YouTube video on a home and they're showing the home so a wonderful entertainer's home like an entertainer's home that's what I do what does that mean a singer fuck that man you guys playing a piano what does that mean I like I like a living room that bleeds into the kitchen all right that's that's I like that's I like that's I like that's a wall in between the two it's got to be and then I like indoor outdoor you live in California I like the ability to go outside.

[909] Maybe you want to have a drink outside and bring it back in.

[910] I just like the different.

[911] That's what they're talking about when it's in their town.

[912] I like a fire outside.

[913] Oh, yeah.

[914] A fire pit.

[915] Fire pit.

[916] Do you try to bring people, like if you have a party, do you try to bring people over that you think would have interesting conversations?

[917] Yes.

[918] Although we have a problem at this particular point.

[919] We're in a transition period.

[920] We have a child.

[921] so I don't know if you went through this but a lot of sometimes when you're coming from not a single couple but a couple with no kids and now you have kids now you're finding other people who have kids right so that's where we're in we're not yet into the preschool so we're kind of in limbo we're looking for new friends not that our old friends are bad it's just now we have other obligations we have a child We can't, we maybe can't go out to dinner at 8 o 'clock at night when we, like we used to, now we're looking to bring it to the house.

[922] Yeah, no, I know exactly what you're saying.

[923] We went through that exact same transition, and a lot of times you pick up some dead weight along the way, running these people.

[924] And the only thing they have in common is the kids of the same age, and then you have to talk to some fucking guy.

[925] Oh, and they give you ear beatings about their job.

[926] Yeah.

[927] Some people are just not interesting.

[928] It's unfortunate.

[929] Yeah, I mean, you do run.

[930] into that where you meet a guy like I went to a toddler group last week now some sometimes I do this obviously because I want to hang out with my daughter but sometimes the material that comes out of going to something like that is gold yeah now it's me 15 women and a gay guy at this toddler group right so I mean it's just like it's almost writing it's like writes itself yeah Although I'm in a circle sitting Indian style.

[931] I mean, it's strange, but man, it's, that's the things I want to do.

[932] Because I feel if I live more of my life, I could draw so much more humor from it.

[933] And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I want to hang out with my family and I want to, I want to, I want to talk to people who are living these life experiences.

[934] Because what I've noticed is I want to keep the same kind of lifestyle I've had when I wasn't successful because I feel when you start detaching yourself from the daily routine.

[935] Let's say even going to Target.

[936] If you have somebody go to Target for you, you miss out on like what happens on a day to day.

[937] And I want to still keep that rich and and available to me. That's very wise of you.

[938] That's very true.

[939] That is something that happens.

[940] happens when people become more and more famous, especially.

[941] They become more reluctant to go places.

[942] Like, they just, they don't want to just go to the mall, you know.

[943] Like, sometimes you just got to go to the mall.

[944] Yeah.

[945] It's good.

[946] It's good.

[947] It's good.

[948] It's good.

[949] It's good.

[950] Well, I think it was you, yeah, it was you saying that, like, if you were out at a restaurant and somebody comes up to you and asks for a pitcher, because everybody wants a pitcher because everybody wants a pitcher nowadays to prove they met Joe Rogan and what have you.

[951] and sometimes it's a little intrusive when you're having dinner with your daughters or your family and then it's like you know i've had people ask me for pictures when my daughter's on my lap and i'm feeding her yeah i had that too i'm like look man you can't you got to get the fuck out of here because the problem is you take that picture with that guy and then someone says oh i want a picture too and then you get 10 people to get up and it sounds braggy but it's not it's just it's a weird thing that happens with people with phones half those people don't even give a about you.

[952] They really just want to take a picture with someone that they saw, you know, on Fear Factor or whatever.

[953] And they just, oh, there he is.

[954] Let me take a picture with him.

[955] And they come over to your table.

[956] And they seem to think that it's part of the job that you have to be, every time you're in public, you have to be available to them.

[957] It's a very weird, like, rule that people have decided.

[958] Some fairly ignorant people have decided.

[959] So that's why they would think that even with my daughter on my lap, and I'm literally, this is, I was literally putting food into her mouth and a guy was like hey man can i get a picture like this is this is not a good time it's not a good this is not a smart thing to ask and it's why people certain people are reluctant to go out in the first place why they're reluctant to go out in public but do you feel an obligation to at all to your fan base to make yourself available to them if if i'm not with my kids yeah yeah so do you do you generally turn down any photos or autographs um It has to be an extenuating circumstance for me to say no. There has to be something wrong.

[960] Like if someone, you know, if someone is somewhere where they're not supposed to be, you know, like I had a guy come backstage at the comedy store.

[961] It made it backstage all the way to the back.

[962] And he's talking.

[963] And I'm like, I was asked the other comments, do you know this guy?

[964] Do you know this guy?

[965] Who is guy?

[966] I go, who are you, man?

[967] And he's like, oh, I'm friends with this guy.

[968] I go, so you just walked back here?

[969] I'm like, you got to get the fuck out of here.

[970] like get out of here man and then the security comes and kicks the guy out I'm like what is happening here like there's no security here like that guy didn't ask for a photo but if he did I'd probably I'd probably take a picture with that motherfucker but I'll probably take a picture with him out there yeah this you know it's if you're in a rush if you're trying to go somewhere and you're literally running and someone wants to pull their phone out like sometimes you can't but most of time if I'm by myself I'm very approachable yeah it's just family stuff it's just like my kids don't like it Like, especially my youngest daughter, she does not like it.

[971] She gets angry.

[972] She squeezes my hand because people ignore her and they just start talking to me and she's just standing there and eight -year -olds have zero patience.

[973] She's sitting there going, boring.

[974] She doesn't give a fuck if they know me. Like, to her, I'm just dad.

[975] Yeah.

[976] You know, like, it doesn't matter if I'm famous.

[977] It doesn't mean anything to her.

[978] What means to her is like when she's with me, she likes attention.

[979] She wants me to talk to her about stuff.

[980] We have a nice little relationship.

[981] Yeah.

[982] I love having little people.

[983] It's fun.

[984] It's like it's, it's, it's for people that are single, and I think it all depends on where you are in life and, you know, how reflective you are about it.

[985] For people that are single, they look at it, and I know I did, they look at it as a potential burden, because when I was a kid, I thought of myself as a burden.

[986] So I think of other children as a burden, but then you have them yourself and the love that you have for them is indescribable.

[987] It's just crazy feeling that you didn't, didn't even know was in.

[988] the menu before and then all of a sudden you have this crazy feeling to this little person it's your favorite thing to do yeah it is amazing and then to echo those thoughts uh i wasn't a big kid guy i was like i don't really need kids yeah but then you have them and you're like man what a missing this would be if you go through life and you don't have a child and and i'm just i'm not saying you need to have a child to be complete but for me man It's been fantastic, and, you know, having a baby boy now coming on the way is, you know, it's great.

[989] I mean, it's not a burden.

[990] It's just adds to your life.

[991] Yeah, it's, it's responsibility.

[992] It's overwhelming responsibility.

[993] Yeah, I mean, it's not about you.

[994] It's about them.

[995] And, you know, you have to have a sense of, I don't know, you got to give them the time they need in order for them to succeed.

[996] in life and uh you know my parents gave me gave me a lot of attention i mean my dad was the type of guy that uh was not really around because he was working and my mom was kind of managing the house um but over the course of of time my father and i become best friends i mean uh you know he's he's he's a huge critic of what i do for a living i don't know if you have parents that are heavily involved in your career but man my father he's you know he comes to the he comes to the to the, it's taking notes at the show.

[997] So he's one of these guys.

[998] He'll tell me if I suck.

[999] I mean, it's good.

[1000] It keeps me level -headed.

[1001] You know, I have, I have a family that is very, very honest, and they don't pull any punches.

[1002] You know, people confuse that with being cruel.

[1003] What, honesty?

[1004] Yeah.

[1005] Yeah, I, listen, my father and my relationship with my father has been, and I had to tell him.

[1006] I said, Dad, you know, just could you come to just be a fan and not like a father?

[1007] Just enjoy the show.

[1008] You don't have to, you know, critique it, which, you know, he has backed off.

[1009] But I know deep down, he's dying to tell me something.

[1010] Dying.

[1011] I mean, I know when I do something on TV and if you don't, like, say nothing about it, he don't like it.

[1012] You know, let's say if you listen to this interview and then we talk.

[1013] and he doesn't bring it up, I know he's going to say, you sucked.

[1014] It's no good.

[1015] Boring.

[1016] Boring.

[1017] I shut it off.

[1018] Why people want to listen to you?

[1019] You know, like, yeah, he'll give it to me. But that's also why you're so funny because you grew up with that.

[1020] That's part of the whole program.

[1021] Totally.

[1022] Totally.

[1023] I mean, I think that's a huge reason why I am the way I am because I'm kind of honest when I'm talking about comedy on stage.

[1024] The honesty is to me the funny, the funniest.

[1025] stuff i got is this is the truth and uh if you don't speak to truth then i don't think it's particularly funny at least in my life but uh yeah to to come from that um yeah my sister my my wife you know they'll tell me yeah yeah my wife will tell me too my wife's fucking funny she's hilarious she says ridiculous shit all the time and she's getting good at it like she she likes to make me laugh so like she'll point at something she'll look at this motherfucker and like And then we'll both start cracking up.

[1026] That's huge, too.

[1027] And she'll tell me, like, if you seemed a little off tonight, like, yeah, it's new sheds, especially when I have new material, man, it's slippery.

[1028] You know, new material's like, I can't quite, wha, try to grab a hole of it.

[1029] I know something's there, but, and the only thing that makes it better is trial and error.

[1030] It's the only thing that makes it better.

[1031] It's the only thing.

[1032] Just fucking constantly doing sets, you know?

[1033] I know you're at the store all the time.

[1034] Are you working other clubs as well around town?

[1035] No, I just like the story.

[1036] The motherland.

[1037] Just that stage in the original room, for whatever reason, I feel the most comfortable and the most creative.

[1038] I'm not saying I won't do the ice house or stuff like that.

[1039] But it's easy.

[1040] It's kind of near where I live.

[1041] I bounce in.

[1042] I bounce out.

[1043] And I like doing it there.

[1044] And I used to bring my wife there when we didn't have a baby.

[1045] And my wife, I think, and I don't know if your wife has, did you think your humor has like bled into your your wife's because my wife's looking at the world completely different like a comic yeah my wife's like a comic yeah she thinks like a comic yeah so yeah definitely it's natural if you're around comics all the time you think like comics like comics like when comics come over the house she's always fucking with them it's hilarious she'll start poking fun on them and she gets a kick out of it and when she's with her friends she's absolutely the one who's always talking shit and making and making people laugh.

[1046] That's funny.

[1047] It's the most fun group of people to be around.

[1048] When we're all at the store, when we all see each other, I mean, that's one of the things that makes me feel so fortunate is that I have so many friends that are hilarious.

[1049] Like when I go there, I see these guys and I know that we're going to have some fun.

[1050] We're going to do sets, but we're also going to hang out in that back bar and talk shit and laugh a lot.

[1051] It's a great, friendly environment, you know?

[1052] Totally.

[1053] And I like to laugh.

[1054] I love to laugh.

[1055] So when I go to the comedy store, I don't really, if I'm around comedians, I don't say much.

[1056] Because I'd rather sit back and enjoy what's happening in front of me than actually be a part of it.

[1057] Because for me, you know, I make people laugh all the time.

[1058] And to be around five or six comedians in the parking lot of the comedy store and watch whatever.

[1059] You go off on a tangent or Callan start, you know, doing his thing.

[1060] I just sit back and enjoy it.

[1061] I don't like to speak around.

[1062] I like to go when I'm in the main room.

[1063] I like to go into the OR and sit in the back and watch the show sometimes, too.

[1064] When I know I'm not going up at all that night in that room, I like to do that.

[1065] I like to be an audience member.

[1066] I still really enjoy that.

[1067] I still really enjoy just sit in the back with a drink and just laughing.

[1068] It's great.

[1069] It's a great thing to be a part of the...

[1070] You know who's fucking murdering it these days?

[1071] Neil Brennan Neil Brennan's on fire right now He's on fire He's doing really really well I think that's special on Netflix The three mics has really opened himself up To performing in front of Large audiences And he's always been a real funny cat You know Yes Always been real funny But he's in a new zone right now I was watching him the other night In the OR I was sitting in the back I'm like god damn this new stuff is good Really That's such a fucking It's such a great hot spot There's so much good comedy going on in that place whether it's santino santino's been murdering lately hinchcliff's been killing it there's just so many good comics there it's like just you feel like you it's it's fuel it's inspirational oh yeah you walk in and see some guy going up and you're like man that's that's some funny stuff and you feel inspired to to go and go yeah i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna write something new or what have you it's nice it's a nice community to be a part of that comedy starts really helped me over the last 20 years yeah it's uh it's very unique you know and uh i showed you that uh painting that uh taylor made i posted up on instagram that's the painting of mitsy i think i'm gonna put that motherfucker right there that's nice have mincy watch over us yeah this this whole thing you got going on here and i don't know if you talk about it much i don't know if you're private about it but even even being here in this studio is inspiring when i when you were showing me what you have and whatnot i'm like man see i don't i don't i've always looked at people who have things or whether it be if you have a nice home or a nice car or whatever it is a nice family i always inspire to do that i don't begrudge anybody that has a lot i've always looked at it as i want to be where that person is opposed to you know being uh bitter yeah that's very healthy yeah i i i mean man just just having having a treadmill whatever whatever it is the treadmill you showed me man that's that's that's not i want to get something like that i mean i just always looked i want to be around people who you know are inspiring yeah me too yeah i mean that's one of the best things about this podcast i get a chance to talk to really interesting people and all walks of life and you know it's weird all the world's mixed together but all those interesting inspirational people it's definitely made me more aware and smarter 100 % made me more aware of things made me reconsider my positions on things made me uh like like we're talking about david giggins i mean i just think about that guy and i want to work out harder you know i do there's a part in a book i think he went to support his either mother or sister in a race and then in las vegas and then i think he just took off and left like he went he was there for them isn't isn't there a part where he just like he was in dress shoes and he he's just started running that's that's him man i was like he's a fucking savage he's a legit and what's great about him one of my favorite parts about david guggins is that he's real honest about who he used to be that he was like 300 pounds and fat and lazy he's drinking milkshakes and he just was depressed and couldn't get his shit together and then he hardened himself up through some strange force of will and became that guy, decided he wanted to become that guy who was, as he puts it, uncommon amongst uncommon men.

[1072] You know, that he just decided, I'm going to be the motherfucker of motherfuckers.

[1073] And then he's so much like that when people around him, they're like, oh, Jesus.

[1074] Because he's so fucking intense.

[1075] It's like, you've got to ramp it up too.

[1076] Like, I'm not ready for Coggins right now.

[1077] I was going to do 20 sit -ups and 20 chin -ups and 20 push -ups and I was going to go home.

[1078] This motherfucker wants to run until we die.

[1079] Yeah.

[1080] You know, but that's, those people, I don't know how many people, Goggins has inspired that listen to this podcast and all of a sudden, they're out there hustling and they're out there doing things on a level that they never did before.

[1081] And they're putting in that work and exerting themselves in that way.

[1082] You know, and he rubs some people the wrong way because of that because he's so aggressive and intense.

[1083] Some people are just reluctant to be inspired by a guy like that.

[1084] They're almost like it's too much.

[1085] Well, he's been there.

[1086] He's been there, you know, he's been in the basement of.

[1087] life, you know?

[1088] I mean, 300 pounds didn't really come from, you know, the father was, and he willed himself out of it.

[1089] So, I mean, if he could do it, you know, why can't I run another mile and a half?

[1090] Yeah.

[1091] There's a video that I listened to from my friend Jocko, Jock Willink, who was a Navy SEAL commander, and he's got this video.

[1092] And it's just said, it's just, it's, I think it's called good, because it's how he looks at everything.

[1093] Oh, you hurt your ankle.

[1094] Good.

[1095] More time to work on other things.

[1096] you know you didn't get to promotion good good like everything's good everything good that's like how he looks at things wow and i've been like running hills halfway fucking dead exhausted can't breathe like oh your lungs are on fire good you got an opportunity to get better shape like good keep pushing this is what it's all about good this is an opportunity to to face the intensity of this moment you got to play that play that video play that video just a just a freak sebastian out because this is something i i'll listen to this like one of my guys that work for me. Every three or four months.

[1097] He would call me up or pull me aside with some major problem, some issue that was going on.

[1098] And he'd say, boss, we got this and that and the other thing.

[1099] And I look at him and I'd say, good.

[1100] And finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having some problem.

[1101] And he said, I already know what you're going to say.

[1102] And I said, well, what am I going to say?

[1103] He said, you're going to say good.

[1104] He said, that's what you always say.

[1105] When something is wrong and going bad, you always just look at me and say good.

[1106] And I said, well, yeah.

[1107] When things are going bad, there's going to be some good that's going to come from it.

[1108] Didn't get the new high speed gear we wanted?

[1109] Good.

[1110] Didn't get promoted.

[1111] Good.

[1112] More time to get better.

[1113] Oh, mission got canceled?

[1114] Good.

[1115] We can focus on another one.

[1116] Didn't get funded.

[1117] Didn't get the job you wanted.

[1118] Got injured.

[1119] Sprang my head.

[1120] ankle.

[1121] Got tapped out?

[1122] Good.

[1123] Got beat?

[1124] Good.

[1125] Unexpected problems?

[1126] Good.

[1127] We have the opportunity to figure out a solution.

[1128] That's it.

[1129] When things are going bad, don't get all bummed out, don't get startled, don't get frustrated.

[1130] If you can say the word good, guess what it means you're still alive it means you're still breathing and if you're still breathing well then hell you still got some fight left in you so get up dust off reload recalibrate reengage and go out on the attack don't you want to just go run through a fucking wall right now.

[1131] Good.

[1132] I think of that all the time.

[1133] That's a legit thing that bounces around in my head when I'm tired, when something's wrong in my life.

[1134] I think good.

[1135] Don't be a bitch.

[1136] Look at this the right way.

[1137] Look at this right way.

[1138] The things are going to go wrong.

[1139] They always do.

[1140] If they don't, you're not trying anything unusual.

[1141] You're not doing anything difficult.

[1142] You're not stretching yourself out.

[1143] Yeah.

[1144] like looking at videos like that and being introduced to guys like that uh i mean that's how i got introduced to gagins someone played a video of him um there's dr eric thomas uh was a motivational speaker who uh love listening to i like listening to people who get me motive i need that yeah jocco's got a great podcast too you guys a navy seal yeah he's a motherfucker he's uh he's a very interesting cat extremely intelligent but just as manly as they come you know and just fucking owns it and you you you know you see that guy talk one of the reason why that's so inspirational is because that's really him you go to his instagram every day there's a photograph of his watch at 430 in the morning because that's when he gets up to train the trains by himself and then he'll take a photo of the puddle that's on the ground after he's done and then he earns the sunrise so he gets up and he goes to the fucking beach and he sees his son come up after he's done training he's a savage that's a real savage there's these guys that get up at four four 30 in the morning and i'm like what happened to taking a nap he'll take a nap later but the point is he makes himself like it's nothing wrong with taking a nap no i know but this is dedication look at his whole fucking instagram was pictures of his watch he's a fucking animal but he's really doing it too he's a brazil Brazilian jiu -jitsu black belt, like a very high -level black belt.

[1145] He's tapped some world -class competitors and fucking great guy too.

[1146] Cool.

[1147] I'll definitely check that guy.

[1148] He was a guest on Tim Ferriss's podcast.

[1149] That's how I heard about him.

[1150] Then I had him on mine and me and Tim both convinced him to do his own podcast.

[1151] Now it's hugely popular.

[1152] He's got a great book out.

[1153] What is it?

[1154] Extreme Ownership.

[1155] Yeah, he's fantastic.

[1156] I'll definitely look at him.

[1157] Yeah.

[1158] People like that are so important because they give you this step.

[1159] just that little push that change the frequency of your brain and gets you fired up.

[1160] You can accomplish a lot of things because of people like that.

[1161] You know, there's extra gears to be had, extra horsepower to be put to things.

[1162] Totally.

[1163] Good.

[1164] Good.

[1165] Good.

[1166] So now that you've done, you know, four sold -out shows in Madison Square Garden, I mean, this is the fucking pinnacle of any stand -up comics career.

[1167] There's only a handful of comics that have ever been able to do that.

[1168] There's like Dice, Louis C .K. There's a few others.

[1169] I mean, you're in a rare place.

[1170] Do you have other goals, or are you just working on maintaining and continuing to put on good shows for your fans?

[1171] That's been the goal.

[1172] I'm not a goal guy.

[1173] I don't say, hey, this is my goals this year.

[1174] I never plan on doing Madison Square Garden.

[1175] My only goal when I got into this business was to do it for a living.

[1176] I want to do stand -up comedy for a living.

[1177] now wherever it takes me it takes me it took me to the garden i'm not uh looking at my uh vision board and going doing the vatican next you know it's it's uh believe in the secret wherever this takes me it it takes me um i you know to do the medicine square garden was was fabulous it was a great experience nothing nothing quite like the rush of going out in front of 18 ,000 people in the round and you know having your family witness it my mother when she walked into the arena started crying you know she was there when I was imagine being her you gave birth to this little tiny baby yeah and this little tiny baby is got four sold out shows at Madison Square Garden it hit her it hit her and uh you know it must have hit you too to see it hit her oh man I was listen I'm an emotional guy so to see my I brought my little baby and and Lana on stage for a photo at the end of it.

[1178] I brought my father on stage.

[1179] I brought my mother and my sister on stage to kind of like share in that moment.

[1180] So yeah, when my mother walked in an empty arena and saw it, you know, she had flashbacks to in 1998 when I did Zanies and we had to get, you know, friends and family there to fill the audience, you know?

[1181] And then now she walks in and her son's doing four of these, you know.

[1182] It was a great, I'm so glad my parents were alive to see that.

[1183] It would be a shame if they weren't there because they've been on this journey from the beginning.

[1184] These are parents who, when I told them in 1996 that I was going to go out to Los Angeles to pursue a stand -up career, didn't look at me and go, what are you nuts?

[1185] They looked at me and go, hey, you know what?

[1186] If you think you got what it takes, get the hell out there.

[1187] Don't put yourself a time limit.

[1188] Some people say, if I don't do it in five years, I'm going to.

[1189] quit or whatever so when i came out here was all in you know if i said five years i wouldn't have been here i would have been back uh in chicago working at motorola who knows yeah uh so i family's always been really really key to to my success uh having people who are very supportive and my wife who's a huge huge reason i am doing what i'm doing i mean you you know to have a wife to deal with the life of a comedian the road away from home a lot and you gotta have like a strong strong woman to to be in your corner and to put up with that also just to deal with the weirdo a fucking comics a weird person yeah I mean just the just the mentality of a comedian is is is tough to be around not tough it's just you know we're always we're always you know in our own head sometime so yeah so to answer your question where do I go from here I don't know I'm enjoying doing some movies.

[1190] I just started dipping my toe into some of these movies.

[1191] The Green Book, which is out now and nominated for some awards for the Oscars.

[1192] I'm happy to be a part of that.

[1193] And then I like it.

[1194] Exercising a different muscle when it comes to acting, but not comedic acting.

[1195] I like the dramas.

[1196] How come?

[1197] I'm a serious guy, generally speaking.

[1198] I'm not a goofball.

[1199] I'm not the guy, always the center of attention.

[1200] That's just not who I am.

[1201] So I like kind of being serious and acting in a drama kind of plays to kind of who I am.

[1202] It's kind of a serious guy.

[1203] And I like it.

[1204] I get my fix from doing a stand -up on stage.

[1205] I don't need to do it in a movie.

[1206] So I like the challenge, number one.

[1207] And number two, I just like to do different things, a little bit.

[1208] but outside the box.

[1209] So I like, I like doing it.

[1210] I mean, did this gangster movie coming out with Scorsese and...

[1211] No shit.

[1212] Yeah.

[1213] What is that?

[1214] It's called...

[1215] You got to work with Scorsese?

[1216] Yeah, so it's called the Irishman.

[1217] The Irishman.

[1218] What is it about?

[1219] It's about basically Jimmy Hoff and how they killed them.

[1220] This guy, De Niro plays the Irishman.

[1221] Jimmy Hoff is played by Pacino.

[1222] Pesci's in the movie.

[1223] So, and I play Crazy Joe Gallo.

[1224] and my first day on the set was with De Niro and Peschi.

[1225] What the fuck was that like?

[1226] Look at that.

[1227] Yeah.

[1228] So I was shitting.

[1229] I mean, there's no. Who is that on the left?

[1230] Pacino.

[1231] Get the fuck out of here.

[1232] Wow.

[1233] That's incredible.

[1234] I mean, maybe it's just that photograph, but that barely looks like him.

[1235] I know.

[1236] This is coming out on Netflix.

[1237] that's crazy how different he looks wow that's a Netflix movie huh yeah fucking Netflix huh yeah it's like a 145 million dollar project and uh it's coming out on October dude what is it like to just be around Scorsese on a movie set and realize you're a fucking actor in a Scorsese movie that's gotta be I mean that is about as high level it's like either Francis Ford Coppola Scorsese There's like a few people that if you're on the set with them, you know, Kubrick when he was alive, like, holy shit.

[1238] That was a holy shit moment for me. I was, I was, listen, I am by no stretch of the imagination, a seasoned actor and then to get thrown into this group of people and working with them.

[1239] I mean, I got to tell you, there was a sense of doubt, like, you know, sometimes, like, should I be here?

[1240] is this is this happening and then you know to do the scene with the nero and pesci it was almost like after the first scene i'm like oh yeah i should be here it's all the anticipation of leading up to the moment that is unfamiliar to you then once you do it you feel like man i that was all in my head and i made it sound like it was going to be you know because i was thinking the next negative too.

[1241] I always think, oh, I'm going to screw this up.

[1242] And that's what motivates me. I never look in the positive.

[1243] I always come from a negative place.

[1244] But once I did that first scene with them, and these guys were more than helpful working with them.

[1245] I mean, Scorsese, when he came out, it was friendly, nice, you know, it was encouraging to be around that kind of positive energy.

[1246] Did you have a hard time of sleep in the night before?

[1247] Oh, yeah.

[1248] I didn't sleep.

[1249] I don't think for the first week.

[1250] leading up to the scene because I knew it was going to be with De Niro and Peschi.

[1251] What they did was they took Gotham Comedy Club in New York City and they made it the Copa Cabana, which I thought was fitting because Gotham Comedy Club is kind of where I did all my stand -up in New York.

[1252] I didn't really do any other club but Gotham.

[1253] And then here, it's a great club.

[1254] Great club.

[1255] Mozilla brothers who run it are fantastic guys.

[1256] And they transformed the Gotham Comedy Club into the, uh the copa cabana and uh don rickles is played by jim norton uh no shit so i'm watching i'm watching him on stage with um it's just crazy and it's like a perfect rickles i'm just thinking about that he's perfect for that he really did a fantastic job really really did a great job i mean even his smile was almost like ricklesesque yeah they gave him look at them oh that's fantastic great casting great casting wow i mean come on who the fuck else would be better you got to get them fat did they fatten them up yeah they fatten them up did they give them makeup to fatten up or they make them eat uh they made them i think they made them bald and they give them a fat suit no shit wow so that's amazing i mean the jim norn's a guy known for what over 20 years and now i'm sitting there watching him as don rickles in a movie It was just blowing my mind, just blowing my mind.

[1257] But this thing is going to be, I can't wait to see it.

[1258] I didn't see any of the movie, even when I was doing it.

[1259] I didn't even look at what I was doing.

[1260] So, yeah, I'm really excited to see what this thing looks like.

[1261] God damn, that's phenomenal.

[1262] What a milestone.

[1263] A movie with De Niro, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci, a fucking Scorsese film.

[1264] Harvey Kitell's in it.

[1265] Holy shit.

[1266] Bobby Kana volley's in it.

[1267] Dude, Harvey Keitel, a lot of people never saw the bad lieutenant.

[1268] Have you ever seen the bad lieutenant?

[1269] No, I've never seen it.

[1270] Oh, my God.

[1271] Look, Harvey Keitel's been amazing and virtually everything he's ever done.

[1272] But the bad lieutenant is one of those movies that's so fucked up and so crazy.

[1273] It was about a bad cop, like a fucking really bad cop.

[1274] Oh, okay.

[1275] And, like, completely, totally out of control.

[1276] But it is one of those movies where after it's over, you know, the credits roll, and you're just sitting there trying to catch your breath just going, Jesus Christ, what the fuck did I just watch?

[1277] There's him.

[1278] A 80s?

[1279] I don't know.

[1280] Look how jacked you was.

[1281] It says 93, but they remade it with Nicholas Cage a couple years ago.

[1282] Get the fuck out of here with that one.

[1283] It's not bad.

[1284] No!

[1285] It's not the same, but it's not bad.

[1286] No!

[1287] I love Nicholas Cage, but no. You stick to driving that Eleanor Mustang and gone in 60 seconds.

[1288] You can't be bad, Lieutenant, you son of a bitch.

[1289] Not that you're not a great actor.

[1290] But look, it's just there's certain guys that take over a. role and to do that again like here's one like say if they offered you taxi driver they say hey we're going to do taxi driver again you'd have to be like yeah good luck casting somebody else get the fuck away from me with that i can't be you can't be denierro and taxi driver unless you're denierre like possible that movie cape fear another one yeah he nailed it by by the way cape fear was i think someone else was that character before i think robert mitcham i think played the same role that De Niro played.

[1291] But I didn't know that when I saw it.

[1292] When I saw it, I just thought it's fucking De Niro.

[1293] 1962.

[1294] There it is.

[1295] But if they tried to do it today, like, get the fuck out of here.

[1296] No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't, especially taxi driver.

[1297] No, you can't recreate that role with another actor.

[1298] No bad lieutenant.

[1299] Nobody's seen that Nicholas Cage, bad lieutenant.

[1300] Even Nicholas Cage probably didn't watch it.

[1301] It might have been like a sequel.

[1302] I don't know if it was a remake because it's called Port of Call.

[1303] I guess it's got an extension on the end of the Port of Call New Orleans.

[1304] It's called Bad Lieutenant Port of Call, New Orleans.

[1305] Oh, yeah, I heard about that.

[1306] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1307] That's the Nicholas Cage one?

[1308] Yeah, 2009.

[1309] So they tried to piggyback on it or some shit like that.

[1310] Yeah, but whatever.

[1311] That Harvey Kitell version is, holy shit.

[1312] But he's great in everything.

[1313] He was great in Pulp Fiction.

[1314] He's great in everything.

[1315] Yeah, no, he's a fantastic actor, and they really, I mean, the people in this movie are.

[1316] What's it like hanging out with those guys?

[1317] Listen, Joe, when I went in there, I told myself, I ain't talking to nobody.

[1318] I'm going to speak.

[1319] What's spoken to.

[1320] There was a part when they were kind of lighting De Niro and I and we're standing face to face and he's looking at me and I'm looking right at him and I wasn't going to say nothing.

[1321] And then he comes in on my tie and he needs to be tightened a little bit and he cinched my tie.

[1322] Oh, wow.

[1323] He straightened out my tie.

[1324] So, yeah, I had a wig.

[1325] They put me in a wig.

[1326] What kind of wig would it look like?

[1327] Actually, there's, there's, if you, if you type up Sebastian Mask, I'll go Irishman, it, it should pop up.

[1328] Oh, yeah, there it is.

[1329] What is the difference between that in your hair?

[1330] It's, I'm so confused.

[1331] Why'd they give you a wig?

[1332] It's got sideburns.

[1333] I mean, if you, if you see it in person, you'll understand maybe why I have it.

[1334] Oh, okay.

[1335] But, yeah, it's not that much of a departure from, from my, my real hair, but, uh, did they give you the option to grow inside burns and you like, get the fuck out of here?

[1336] No, they just said, again, I didn't say nothing.

[1337] They said, you're going to wear a wig.

[1338] No, no problem.

[1339] Whatever you want me to do.

[1340] Scorsese was like, okay, there's a part where I'm going to go through a window.

[1341] And he's like, okay, when you go through the window and I'm like, oh, I'm going to do a window because I knew there was a stunt guy involved.

[1342] Right.

[1343] But he's telling me that I'm going to go through the window, and I wasn't going to say I don't do windows.

[1344] You know, you want me to go through a window?

[1345] Go through a window.

[1346] I'm not going to tell Martin Scorsese, I'm sorry, I need a stunt guy.

[1347] Right.

[1348] But then they said, hey, Marty, there is a stunt guy here.

[1349] He goes, oh, oh, okay.

[1350] So I was ready to go through the window.

[1351] I went through a window on news radio.

[1352] Nick DePaolo threw me through a window.

[1353] Is that right?

[1354] Yeah.

[1355] It's easy.

[1356] They're made out of sugar glass.

[1357] You just go right through it.

[1358] It's weird.

[1359] It feels like nothing, like a tissue paper or something.

[1360] very strange i was like whatever whatever it takes scorsesey wants me to go through i mean the guy went through the stunt double went through and he cut his hand oh did he really so i don't know what what it was oh if i would have went through the window joe i would have been dead so scorsese is such a cycle he might have made the guy go through real glass you know he might have been like this is just not realistic enough this i'll give you 500 extra dollars the sugar glass whatever it is is not going to work but um i guess you could probably cut yourself on that sugar glass shit if you landed wrong i mean if it was sticking up wrong you placed your hand funny it makes sense yeah you probably could cut yourself a little but but yeah it was exciting it's been really exciting for me to last three or four years um to have these opportunities to do these things and um yeah it's uh that's great listen man it's been awesome to see because i remember you first Starting out at the comedy store.

[1361] I really do.

[1362] I remember you from the late 90s just trying to get your shit together.

[1363] We did a lot of shows together, man. And then you really came into your own and that during the time that I was away.

[1364] And I was hearing from so many, you know, comics always talk.

[1365] I was hearing from so many people how hard you were killing.

[1366] You know, so many people were saying you were doing great.

[1367] And you've always been like a real easy guy, real easy guy to hang out with, real easy guy to talk to.

[1368] So to see you blow up like this has been just fucking awesome.

[1369] Well, I appreciate that, Joe, and we've known each other for a while.

[1370] And you're right.

[1371] At the time that you were away from the comedy store, I think I kind of, you know, found my voice in the beginning there was really tough for me to, you know, to, you know, find a word.

[1372] I mean, I think I talked about this the last time I was on the cast, I was trying, like, different shirts had come through to come with my nipples hanging out.

[1373] I had like a leopard shirt.

[1374] I thought it was cool.

[1375] You know, it was one of those things, as a young, comedian you're trying all these different things out who you were trying it out in the lions den too you know i mean you are in the fucking the belly of the beast trying out stand up it's very hard to do yeah but um no but i i appreciate you uh the support you've given me over the years and having me on the i don't take this lightly you know i mean uh when you had this podcast and uh it became so huge and still is huge to have me on here you know i i appreciate it because I don't take anything for granted.

[1376] Well, I don't take you for it either, brother.

[1377] I really appreciate it, man. You got it, bro.

[1378] Thank you very much.

[1379] Sebastian Manasolco, ladies and gentlemen.

[1380] That's it.

[1381] Goodbye.

[1382] See ya.

[1383] Thanks.