29 Sep 2020 – TBSH – Thou Shalt Not Steal (Pt. 2)

[0] Welcome to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[1] My name's Terry Barbara.

[2] I'm with Virgin Most Powerful radio, and this is the highlight of my week.

[3] I get to speak to Bishop Joseph Strickland about a Catholic faith.

[4] You must have boring weeks, Terry.

[5] That's right.

[6] I love it.

[7] Bishop Strickland, you know, we start every radio show here at Virgin Most Powerful with the Memorari, and you pray it with us.

[8] So could we start the show live on the air?

[9] praying the memory please absolutely in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit amen remember o gracious virgin mary that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection implored thy help or sought thy intercession was left unaided inspired by this confidence i fly unto thee o virgin of virgins my mother to thee do we cry to thee before thee i stand sinful and sorrowful o mother the word incarnate despite not my petitions, but in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen.

[10] In the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

[11] Amen.

[12] Thank you, Bishop Strickland.

[13] Tell us about your interest in that prayer.

[14] Well, it's a beautiful prayer, and it's a reassurance that Mary is with us.

[15] She is with us.

[16] She's praying for us.

[17] Even if we ignore her son and ignore her, she's praying for all of us.

[18] She's praying for every leader of the world to every child that is just beginning to learn to walk.

[19] She's praying for all of us.

[20] She's a mother.

[21] It's not like, well, I like those kids, but I don't care about those kids.

[22] She loves every human being that God has given life to.

[23] And the memory reminds us of that.

[24] I think it's like so many beautiful prayers in our Catholic tradition.

[25] We need to really believe what these prayers say and offer them with heartfelt faith.

[26] that remember, O gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known, that you failed to respond.

[27] She may not respond in her prayer, and the will of the Father may not be what we want, but she may not respond exactly the way we think she should.

[28] But doesn't that happen with our own mothers?

[29] Absolutely.

[30] They know what's best for us.

[31] And certainly, Mary knows that the Father's will is what is best for us.

[32] So I encourage everybody to adopt the Memorari as a go -to prayer when they're struggling.

[33] And we all struggle sometimes more than once a day.

[34] There's an issue that we really are challenged by.

[35] I know that's true for me. It's true for all of us.

[36] So the Memorari is a beautiful prayer.

[37] We need to believe what these prayers say and listen, just like Sacred Scripture.

[38] This is the Word of God.

[39] And I accuse myself before anybody else that I'll see these scripture passages.

[40] It's like, bang, finally, it sinks into my thick head.

[41] And we need to listen.

[42] What is the word of God telling us every Sunday?

[43] If you're able to go to daily mass, listen to those words.

[44] Read the Bible and say, Lord, speak to me today.

[45] Well, said Bishop Strickland, and I know the reason I had started at Virgin Most Powerful praying the memorare is because it's a family tradition.

[46] and the barbers.

[47] And even when my mother was dying, who spent 30 years of her life working with me at St. Joseph Communications, you know, duplicating cassette tapes and clamming shells for lighthouse Catholic media.

[48] And, you know, at the end of her life, she just kept working.

[49] But she died of brain cancer.

[50] And when, in her last hour, we were saying prayers, praying the rosary.

[51] But the last prayer that we prayed with my mother was the memorary.

[52] And I just thought that was so appropriate when she passed, and we just had finished the memorary.

[53] So I appreciate it.

[54] And my mother's the one that taught me to pray the memorary.

[55] That's great.

[56] Just a funny thing that occurs to me, Terry, you know, it's sort of off topic, but was your family, do you know your family heritage?

[57] Were you barbers?

[58] Yeah, we were, no, yeah, on that side.

[59] Is that your profession?

[60] Yeah, on our side, on my dad's side, correct, in England, actually.

[61] My mom's side were Lebanese.

[62] I'm half Lebanese.

[63] I hate to tell you this, but my great -great -grandfather was a general in the army.

[64] He was a fighter, and he was a Christian.

[65] And so I'll just leave it at that.

[66] Yeah, I have some interesting blood on both sides of my family.

[67] But it's interesting with names like, because Strickland, what's that?

[68] I know.

[69] But Barber, a lot of times they're rooted in what that name says.

[70] You got it.

[71] It was a Barber family.

[72] That's right.

[73] That's right.

[74] Well, Bishop Strickland, you've been busy this.

[75] past week, and I'm always enjoying your tweets.

[76] And I love the same theme that throughout the year you're talking about the issue of our lifetime, which is the unborn baby that's being slaughtered through abortion.

[77] And on September 7th, you said, live as if your life was number one day, and after you die, you will either spend eternity with God or without God.

[78] This is the teaching of Jesus.

[79] You notice he didn't say this is Bishop Strickland's teaching?

[80] No, this is the teaching of Jesus Christ.

[81] Your life may actually be thousands of days, but in contrast to eternity, life here is but a day.

[82] And I like this responsibility.

[83] Bishop Strickland says, as a pastor, this is what I personally want to.

[84] No, he says, this is what I must preach.

[85] And I thank you for that, but I want to ask you, why are you bringing up, I call it the four things.

[86] I mean, that life is short and eternity is forever.

[87] But isn't that something that we should be thinking about daily, Bishop Strickland?

[88] Absolutely.

[89] We should all get up in the morning and thank God for another day and not presume that tomorrow there'll be another.

[90] That's exactly what we do.

[91] And I know that's countered to what I do in life.

[92] I mean, I got this calendar on my phone, an online calendar, and it's books.

[93] It has stuff for 2021.

[94] And that's how the world works.

[95] It's okay.

[96] But that's not what we put our faith in.

[97] We put our faith in being faithful today, trying to turn from sin and live the gospel today.

[98] Don't put it off to tomorrow because tomorrow may never come.

[99] And it's very basic.

[100] And we all know it.

[101] Even the atheist knows they might not be here tomorrow.

[102] And they need to wake up and recognize that atheist is the wrong way to be, because God is there sustaining them in life, even though they don't believe in him.

[103] I mean, that's an awesome love of God that he doesn't say, if you'll believe in me, I'll let you live.

[104] He just loves us into existence and then gives us the freedom to say, I don't believe in you.

[105] I mean, it's so silly if we really think about it.

[106] But Bishop Strickland, I would like to say, I would like to say it, an attitude of gratitude is welcome just about everywhere.

[107] And what I'm hearing you in these weeks and months of listening to you here on your hour is that you're really just going back to the fundamentals of the Catholic faith.

[108] And I think about Jess Romero, my partner on the Terry and Jesse show, he was a kickboxing champion.

[109] And when I asked him, Jess, what did you work on as a champion boxer constantly?

[110] He said the fundamentals.

[111] Well, I was an all -league baseball player.

[112] I tried out for the Oakland A's.

[113] I was a professional umpire.

[114] So sports were big with me. What did I work on as a baseball player and hitting the fundamentals?

[115] And so I apply that to my Catholic faith.

[116] You know, we don't need more scholars as much as I like scholars.

[117] My nephew, Dr. Michael Barber is a scholar, all right?

[118] Love it.

[119] We need more saints.

[120] And if I read it right, Bishop Strickland, you don't need to have a PhD to be a saint.

[121] You need faith in Jesus Christ and you need humility.

[122] Is that a fair statement?

[123] Absolutely.

[124] Okay.

[125] Well, now let's go to your second tweet.

[126] Your second tweet really touches me because it's talking about the Catholics in China.

[127] You say, pray for the Catholics in China so many other areas of the world, right, where the faith is suppressed.

[128] This bishop sets a great example regarding our response to persecutors, a bless and do not curse them.

[129] Why don't you set the stage what's going on with this bishop?

[130] and tell us a little bit about him, because we've talked about him on our show, and he's a great model, but obviously he inspired you as a bishop.

[131] Tell us what's going on there.

[132] Well, I just saw it online, and he's under serious persecution.

[133] He's not allowed to practice his call to be a bishop.

[134] Right.

[135] And I don't remember the details, but his life very well could be threatened.

[136] That's right.

[137] If he just exercises his faith and lives it.

[138] And it's just tragic how that's unfolding in China.

[139] And it's being allowed by the world governments and even by the church.

[140] It's just, oh, well, we'll just cooperate with communist China.

[141] And we know that communists means no church.

[142] I mean, I'd love for, you know, John Paul II to be on the scene dealing with it because he would blast him.

[143] I mean, he lived it.

[144] That's right.

[145] And so many have lived what communism really is about.

[146] And God gets in their way.

[147] So their mission is to get rid of God.

[148] And so pretending that they're going to allow the Catholic Church, which is even still with all the problems we have, it's still the beacon of supernatural truth for the world.

[149] And to allow it to really operate in a atheistic, communistic system, it doesn't make sense.

[150] It's not going to happen.

[151] And we can pretend that it is, but it's not.

[152] And I think this bishop is one example.

[153] And look at his beautiful faith.

[154] Bless and do not curse them.

[155] He's in the middle of it.

[156] I mean, it's the gospel of Jesus saying, love your enemies.

[157] One of the things about this bishop, Bishop Strickland died was moved by was he basically got thrown out onto the streets, no shelter.

[158] Just think of it this way.

[159] Bishop Strickland, tomorrow, they come knocking on your door.

[160] The government and the church say, Strickland, you're done.

[161] I mean, you know, like, what?

[162] You're out.

[163] Yeah.

[164] And so now the people are supporting him in any way they can.

[165] But if you know, if you do it, if I did, if I've supported you publicly, I would pay a terrible price for doing that.

[166] That's the situation he's in.

[167] And here we are, Bishop Strickland, I don't know about you, but I'm pretty comfortable in my seat right here.

[168] There's nobody pointing a gun at me. How about you?

[169] No, no. But that could come.

[170] That's what we have to speak out about the truth and bring people in.

[171] into the light because, I mean, China's a long way off, but it's still on this planet.

[172] And communism was just around the corner, and it seems to be just around the corner here.

[173] You know, we can't be asleep.

[174] Right.

[175] Right.

[176] It's time.

[177] It's a wake -up call for us Catholics worldwide to fall deeper in love with Jesus Christ and his bride to church.

[178] When we come back, we'll talk more that'll inspire you to do just that.

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[198] According to St. Augustine, understanding is the reward of faith.

[199] Therefore, seek not to understand that you may believe, but believe that you may understand.

[200] May God grant us a strong living faith in him and his divine plan of salvation, and help us to believe so that we may understand.

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[209] Welcome back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[210] We just talked about the church in China, so keep those folks in prayer.

[211] I was reading earlier, Bishop Strickland, that China could be the largest Christian country in the entire world in the next 30 years because of the underground church.

[212] So, you know, there's an old saying, and as you know it, from, you know, the persecuted church is going to be the church of the future because when they're persecuted, that they really know their faith.

[213] Well, you certainly see that in Poland.

[214] Yeah, there's a good example.

[215] And now the persecution is lifted.

[216] They're starting to slip a little, but we pray that they will stay faithful because that was exactly what happened in Poland.

[217] Yep.

[218] Bishop Strickland, I had a clip and I don't have it now, but Father James Altman, thank you publicly because last week you talked about how you sent a tweet, you know, thanking him for calling us bishops to more fidelity to Christ in his church, basically.

[219] And he said on his clip that he wanted to shake your hand.

[220] If you had him in your office, what would you say to him right now?

[221] Well, I'd say thank you for having the guts to speak up, even though it's not a popular message for many.

[222] I think we need to speak up in the love of Christ.

[223] And certainly, Father James got a little, you know, carried away.

[224] But we all do.

[225] When we believe something, I do.

[226] I'd rather say, you know, yeah, I got a little carried away than not say anything.

[227] And most are not saying anything.

[228] And, you know, since I supported Father Altman, I've gotten lots of emails and phone calls, many supportive, many condemning me. It's not an opinion poll.

[229] It's not, well, by popular vote, let's all, let's have a popular I mean, certainly that's the way this country works when it works is democratic votes in elections.

[230] Sure.

[231] But the truth is not up for election.

[232] It's not a popular opinion poll, and too often it's treated that way.

[233] So, you know, I love, I know we talk a lot about Fulton Sheen, but he was very clear that just because the whole world says it, it can be wrong if it's not the truth.

[234] It doesn't matter if the vast majority of 99 % of the people say X is the truth.

[235] If it's not, it doesn't really matter.

[236] And so that reminds us to be very, especially when it comes to faith, God has revealed the truth to us.

[237] He didn't say, here, here's your world, and y 'all vote on whether you like this or that.

[238] God revealed to us through his son, he's the person of Revelation.

[239] And frankly, Terry, the closer, and I need to.

[240] to continue to grow closer to Christ, I'm just beginning to know him, really.

[241] Amen.

[242] Because he's the infinite Lord of love and mercy in life.

[243] So none of us can say, oh, I know Jesus and I can move on.

[244] I've gotten to know Jesus.

[245] It's some, he is the one we need to continue to know.

[246] But I can tell you, it's only in knowing Jesus just a little as a bishop, that it gives me the guts to say, I'm going to support this priest who is, you know, I knew, you know, there would be repercussions, but we need to speak up in the name of Jesus Christ for the sake of our brothers and sisters.

[247] The prophets tell us to, the prophets tell us, you better speak against evil and for the good, or you just remain silent.

[248] Then basically you're saying, oh, evil's okay.

[249] It won't be too bad.

[250] You know, we'll just get along and everything will keep humming along and we've thought that in this nation for a long time but i think we're seeing that it starts to unravel and it takes time i mean one thing we have to remember terry god is timeless we think oh it's going to happen tomorrow or oh november is such a big month whether it's big election we get carried away with ourselves god is timeless and all powerful and here we are running around like Like, we're in charge.

[251] And what we've learned in 2020 is, I don't think we're in charge.

[252] Because the big stamp over 2020 is canceled.

[253] Everything I planned, everything you planned, everything we thought was going to be happening in September 2020, it was canceled.

[254] And we're trying to reshape a whole new reality.

[255] Maybe we can learn in the most important lesson.

[256] let's seek what God's plan is what's God planning and his plan is not according to time but according to the unfolding of his love and we need to remember that well said I always say the 10 commandments are not suggestions you know there's no expiration date on those 10 commandments or on the Bible you mentioned Father James Altman but another prelate Archbishop Vigano that you've actually supported he came out with another interview And I read everything on the interview.

[257] It took me a long time to read it.

[258] But it seems like he is the John the Baptist of our church today, saying that, look, we need to repent and turn back to Christ.

[259] And he said it this way, Bishop Strickland.

[260] He said that we're putting our trust as a church right now.

[261] Now, this is our church that I'm a member of.

[262] I'm part of that mystical body.

[263] And he's pointing the finger at me as much as you or anyone else.

[264] He's saying that we're putting too much trust in man. rather than God.

[265] Do you think that he's on to something?

[266] Absolutely.

[267] And thankfully, other church leaders, cardinals, different people have spoken up.

[268] And that's the message we, as shepherds, need to get out there.

[269] We don't trust in ourselves.

[270] I mean, this coming Sunday's gospel will remind us of that.

[271] God's ways are not our ways.

[272] And we need to remember that.

[273] And we need to not think, you know, like I said, we think we're in charge and we just, we're like a little kid with a toy.

[274] We will not let go.

[275] I will not let go.

[276] It's mine.

[277] And we're going to monkey around with this world until we really mess it up because we think we can run it all.

[278] And it's just not the truth.

[279] My thought on that is if God stopped thinking about Bishop Strickland or Terry Barber, we would cease to exist.

[280] Well, that's not just your thought.

[281] That's basic theology of what the church teaches us.

[282] We are here because of the thought of love of God.

[283] Everything exists.

[284] Think about that one for a minute.

[285] God could just say, I think I'm going to go to sleep.

[286] Boom.

[287] We're gone.

[288] Exactly.

[289] And for what I always say, because I know both of us deal with the question, is this the end of the world?

[290] Is this all the end times?

[291] Who knows?

[292] Jesus said only the Father knows.

[293] But what I think we do need to remember, it might be the end of your world.

[294] I mean, this, it's not in any way beyond imagining that this might be the last time we talk.

[295] I agree with you.

[296] It could happen.

[297] And Bishop Strickland.

[298] Am I ready?

[299] Are you ready?

[300] I want to be.

[301] And Bishop Strickland, we've talked about this, that life is short and eternity is forever.

[302] But we've also thought about every time we.

[303] go to Holy Mass and receive Holy Communion.

[304] I was taught this 30 years ago.

[305] And I think it's as true as it was because it's the truth.

[306] Every time we go to Mass, think about this, folks.

[307] Think that this might be your last time to receive Holy Communion.

[308] I think about that.

[309] We're going to Mass tonight and I'm thinking, I'm excited we get to go receive Holy Communion.

[310] I'm going to be present at that one eternal sacrifice.

[311] Are you kidding me?

[312] A taste of heaven on earth?

[313] And so it's a well -known you know, prayer that a lot of sacristyves have, a lot of priests say, Father, celebrate this Mass. Is it if it was your first Mass and your only Mass and your last Mass?

[314] And I think it's just in our human nature, we have to keep reminding ourselves to keep that focus because we all think we're going to be here forever.

[315] Even though we do know logically that we're all going to die, Right.

[316] Especially, we know that, especially the younger you are, the more you think, you're just going to be here forever.

[317] And sadly, that gets young people killed tragically and early in their life because they, you know, take risk and do things that are stupid.

[318] Yep.

[319] Because they think, oh, you know, I'm going to be here forever.

[320] I think we're old enough.

[321] We've learned.

[322] And probably, I mean, I can speak for myself.

[323] I'm a little thankful.

[324] I'm not going to be here forever.

[325] Oh, me too.

[326] I want to be here as long as it's God's will that I'm here, but I'm ready to get off this mortal coil when he's ready for me. I'm with you.

[327] Bishop Strickland, last tweet you did, and it kind of ties into this world and the next world of the Holy Eucharist.

[328] You said now it would be, this was on September 11th when we prayed for the 2001, all those thousands of people that died.

[329] You said that Mother Angelica had a statement, she said, It is sad to realize that as so many believe Jesus is present in the Blessed Sacrament, they, we, us, are so seldom visit him.

[330] Men travel across oceans to see ancient ruins.

[331] They see paintings, landscapes, celebrities, and mountains.

[332] But they do not think of going into a simple church around the corner to visit.

[333] Are you ready?

[334] The creator of all beauty.

[335] man Mother Angelica nailed it there and I'm glad you tweeted that I think Bishop Strickland you're on to something because I hear people going I'm going to go see this seer they know the news when the end of the world is they know this they know that oh I want to check this out and for years I've always said you know what go to mass go to see the Eucharist there's bigger miracles there you don't know what this person is but why did you tweet that at this point of history right now about the Eucharist well because I mean here's mother and Angelica many years ago, lamenting that people believe, but they're not going to worship him, to be with him, to be strengthened in his presence.

[336] Now, as we know, and I think Mother Angelica would really be lamenting that so many don't believe.

[337] Why are we probably maybe 30 years after she said that?

[338] Why are we in this place?

[339] It's because people who did believe didn't bother to go before his presence and be strengthened in his presence.

[340] And so the belief gradually erodes.

[341] And then the next generation that comes along says, well, mom and dad must not really believe that, even though they wouldn't say that.

[342] But they're good, you know, we learned by our actions, by example, you know, a young person that saw mom or dad going to Eucharistic adoration as a kid.

[343] That has an impact.

[344] That is more impact than all the talking that mom or dad could do to see them get up extra early and go and pray at the church.

[345] Dad, where are you going so early?

[346] I'm going to pray and I have an hour of adoration and then maybe as they're older they get to go along with them.

[347] That example, you know, sadly too many didn't, you know, as Mother Angelica is lamenting, too many didn't give that example.

[348] And now people don't even believe much less ignore going to the tabernacle even though they do believe now they don't believe they think oh the tabernacle is just a nice box with some bread in it that kind of reminds us of Jesus and that's just not the truth of what our catholic faith knows is the truth and we've that's why you know i keep i mean that's one of the things um i'm a broken record i just keep we're picking the sanctity of life, the reverence for the Eucharist, you know, turn from sin, you know, read the scriptures.

[349] I mean, it's all basic stuff, going to the fundamentals.

[350] Amen.

[351] I mean, the Ten Commandments are basic guides for living humanity, much less seeking eternity.

[352] And we need to seek eternity.

[353] Amen.

[354] Bishop Strickland, wow, if I had more time, I want to, well, you know what?

[355] We'll come back.

[356] I'm going to give a little tease.

[357] Archbishop Vigano said something.

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[381] Welcome back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[382] you, we're going to get to that seventh commandment, but I got to tell you, Bishop Strickland, you know, your fundamentals of Catholicism that you're talking about, there's another archbishop who's saying the same thing.

[383] His name is Archbishop Carlo Marie Vigano, and on the feast of the holy name of Mary, he did an interview, and he talked about what you mentioned two weeks ago about the sexual revolution and how it affected not only the secular world, but it got inside our church regarding Humane Vite and I just wanted to reiterate if you could what Bishop Vigano talked about how we didn't as bishops as a church communicate clearly the church's teachings on something that St. Pope John Paul no St. Paul the 6th articulated in a document called Jimane Vite.

[384] Absolutely Terry and certainly there are many threads to our, you know, fragmented a world today.

[385] But I think that is a major, because it is the very root of a lack of respect for life and where we, and sadly, most of the bishops at the time, and since then, and, you know, most Catholics have followed their shepherds.

[386] And so the, again, the opinion polls would say, oh, the Catholic Church.

[387] is so antiquated with this idea of contraception but it's the truth yeah and it basically is that very as we were talking about it's it's the fundamental of the sanctity of life if we say we can interfere with conception then everything's up for grabs and that's what's unfolded yeah since It's 1968, what, five years later, Roe v. Wade, and then since Roe v. Wade, abortion has just grown into this billion -dollar, maybe even trillion -dollar industry now.

[388] It's huge.

[389] It's infiltrated all kinds of elements of society.

[390] And it's, it is rooted in, well, you know, we can play God at that moment of conception and try to interfere there.

[391] We, well, let's play God.

[392] You know, it's just fun.

[393] Let's play God.

[394] some more let's use babies as spare parts and let's have living babies that we can kind of tinker with until they're dead but you know we'll keep them alive long enough to to have even more experiments that we can just diabolical and um you know it's just i get you know people say oh it's a one issue and strickland oh he's just too focused on this but it is it is the the baseline fundamental and that's what Humane Vite gets at is we decided back in, you know, the 60s just really before Humane Vite.

[395] And you probably know the story that that was a struggle for Pope now Saint Paul the 6th.

[396] I truly believe because, you know, it's like this huge monster was hovering over him saying, Holy Father, you better make the right choice here and say that it's okay.

[397] Yeah.

[398] And he said, no, I'm going to follow the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

[399] And it really, if you look at his pontificate after that, he was a shattered man in many ways in terms of this world.

[400] But now he's a saint, or he was a saint.

[401] It was growing to be a saint then because he said it comes down to what we talked about earlier and what Archbishop Vigano refers to.

[402] People don't want to hear it.

[403] But are we relying more on the world?

[404] or on the truth that God is revealed.

[405] Thank God.

[406] St. Paul the 6th relied on the truth of God.

[407] And he went against the world.

[408] And he paid a high price.

[409] But a high price in this world is peanuts.

[410] Amen.

[411] If you enter into everlasting life.

[412] The high price of your soul and being condemned to hell, that's the high price.

[413] And we just don't talk that way enough in the church.

[414] church or in the world today?

[415] You know, Bishop Strickland, when I read the report, St. Pope Paul VI sent a letter out to certain theologians, like about a hundred's theologians, to get their opinion on it.

[416] And there's a guy in Poland named Cardinal Wittellia, and then a bishop named Fulton Sheen, they were the two of a handful of bishops who said, no, you can't, don't change the teaching.

[417] And so they were outnumbered by all the others saying he should, but thanks be to God, like you said, Pope Paul I 6 didn't listen to the experts.

[418] He listened to the Holy Spirit.

[419] Now, last thing, and then we'll get to the commandments.

[420] This was so true because I hear you speaking.

[421] Archbishop Vigano and you speak a similar language.

[422] Look what he just said.

[423] You've said it.

[424] He said to the bishops that we have a challenge right now to teach people the Christ's teachings and not the world teachings.

[425] And what he says is this.

[426] They, he said the bishops, feel.

[427] ontologically inferior he said they consider christ's teachings to be inadequate clumsy and they try to adapt it to a secular mentality and he said this and i know he's speaking to me right here when he said it not just to bishops he said they are afraid of appearing outdated not in step with the times even centuries late as another illustrious jesuit said may he rest in peace so the point i'm trying to say is you're out of step in our culture right now.

[428] You're even out of step in a lot of shepherds today.

[429] They are not speaking like you and Bishop Strickland.

[430] I just want to say thank you.

[431] And I know you're taking a hit for it, but like you said, you know what?

[432] I'm not doing this for my personal gain.

[433] I'm doing it because I'm in love with Jesus Christ and his bride the church.

[434] I don't have a choice.

[435] I must preach Christ and him crucified.

[436] Is that a fair statement?

[437] Is that why you're doing this?

[438] absolutely and i love that phrase to be out of step with our time yeah to be afraid to be out of step with our time yeah that really is sad for shepherds to be a priority that they're worried about because like i said earlier god is timeless yeah and our time is very brief amen even if you live to be a hundred years old that's a blip on the radar for human history history.

[439] And to be out of step with your time, I mean, you could say Jesus Christ was out of step with his time.

[440] If he had been really the leader that many wanted him to be, he would have cozyed up to the Roman Empire and gotten the hierarchy of his religious group, the Jewish hierarchy all on his side and been the revolutionary that they wanted him to be.

[441] But he was the son of God.

[442] he was he entered into time thankfully to minister to us to bring us his mercy but he was timeless he is timeless amen and i think that we we can have that perspective but it is the temptation we all fall into to think oh i got to worry about my time i got to worry about my stature i got to worry about my office and i think i've said it here i know i've said at other places i'm on temporary assignment Terry.

[443] I love it.

[444] So are you.

[445] Amen.

[446] We're all on temporary assignment.

[447] Yep.

[448] Yep.

[449] I agree, Bishop Strickland.

[450] All right, I want to switch now.

[451] We've been covering the Ten Commandments.

[452] We're on the Seventh Commandment.

[453] You shall not steal.

[454] And for those who want to use the podcast access, you can go back to all the other previous shows by going to Virgin Most Powerful Radio .org and listening to any of the other podcasts.

[455] But Bishop Strickland, I'm on paragraph 2407.

[456] And for those, who don't own a catechism, if you don't have one and you can't afford one, call me, I'll send you one.

[457] I really mean that because it's that important that Catholics are high information Catholics.

[458] If it's one thing after 41 years of evangelization in the Catholic Church as a layman I've noticed, is that we have way too many low -information Catholics.

[459] And I'm talking about adults, Bishop Strickland, who should know the fundamentals and didn't get it.

[460] And so I think a catechism can pick it up.

[461] Now, I have a friend here who spent 15 years in prison who read the catechism three times.

[462] He came out of prison.

[463] He's on fire for the faith.

[464] He wants to be a Catholic priest today.

[465] And it was because he had the time and energy and the willpower to study his fate.

[466] Now, that made, you know what that story made me do, Bishop Strickland?

[467] It made me open up my catechism more often.

[468] Yeah.

[469] I can reread it.

[470] I'm saying, that dude puts me to shame because Because here I'm a free man, and I got plenty of time to be reading and studying my faith.

[471] So let's start with paragraph 2407, respect for persons and their goods.

[472] Paragraph, it says, 2407, in economic matters, respect for human dignity requires the practice of the virtue of temperance so as to moderate attachment to the world's goods and practice the virtue of justice to preserve.

[473] our neighbor's rights and render him what is his due and the practice of solidarity in accordance with the golden rule and in keeping with the generosity of the Lord who though he was rich yet for your sake became poor so that by his poverty you might become rich Bishop Strickland there's there's gold in that paragraph I mean wow absolutely break it down the message of the gospel yeah that's what does Christ say it is difficult for a rich man to enter heaven and we could talk about that for another hour but that's what we need to remember riches in this world so easily become an obstacle to our real purpose in life we need you know minimum daily rations we need to keep our body healthy.

[474] Yep.

[475] We need shelter.

[476] We need clothing, but we don't need the excess that certainly the consumeristic society does say, buy a new one, get 12 of whatever, all of that.

[477] As Christians, absolutely we should work against that because, you know, a lot of the saints tell us very clearly.

[478] We just celebrated St. Vincent de Paul.

[479] And he reminds us that, that when you have a multiplicity of things that you don't need, you've got somebody else's stuff in your house.

[480] I mean, you know, and I'm guilty because we're all caught up in it.

[481] But I'm always giving stuff away.

[482] And I'm just a single man. I know it's got to be tougher when you've got your wife that you love and you've got your grandkids and your kids and all this.

[483] Yeah.

[484] And you say, oh, we may need that for Johnny or whatever.

[485] But for me, I need to be the model of, how much do I need?

[486] As one man who lives in a, thankfully, it's a simple house.

[487] I do not have a bishop's mansion.

[488] I don't need a bishop's mansion.

[489] Amen.

[490] And Pope Francis really urging bishops to move away from that.

[491] I totally agree.

[492] But we need to remember the spiritual reasons for that move away from materialism and multiplying the riches.

[493] because they become a burden.

[494] Well said, we'll be back with the Seventh Commandment with Bishop Strickman after a short break.

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[513] Welcome back to the Bishop Strickland hour.

[514] Bishop was just explaining paragraph 2407 regarding respect for persons and their goods and the virtue of temperance.

[515] Bishop Strickland, my background after I came out of a monastery was that I went into real estate, and I was a door knocker, and I used to call 100 phone, 100 people a day, and I was quite successful.

[516] I was 13th in the sales in the state of California.

[517] It's a little state, so I was very successful in sales.

[518] That's why I joke with people.

[519] I used to sell real estate on planet Earth, and now I sell real estate for heaven.

[520] Okay, so here's what happened.

[521] I meet a gentleman.

[522] I go to do a market research on his property to tell him how much it's worth, and he's an elderly man in his 80s, living alone in a nice big house.

[523] And I'm a nice big house.

[524] and what was weird about it was he was telling me how much assets he has and how he was telling me that he's going to bring all this money with him when he dies and I was like I just came out and I said I got to evangelize this guy man you kidding me last time I looked there's no hers following your casket you can't bring that money with you and I tried to convince him that you know to give it away to you know some charities and you know use that for resources to help his fellow man and I said What about your relative?

[525] Nobody.

[526] So he was a real kind of tyrant type guy.

[527] And he shows me all his cash, which was a mistake, but he's lucky I'm an honest man. He opens up this vault and shows me like $60 ,000, $70 ,000 in cash.

[528] He says he goes to the bank every week to take cash out to put it in.

[529] I'm like, well, sad.

[530] Well, about three months later, I mean, I kept in touch with him because I thought he'd want to sell the house.

[531] Well, I found out that he died on the steps of the Bank America with $5 ,000.

[532] thousand dollars cash on him because he died of a heart attack and i and i remember as a young punk at 22 years of age bishop strickland that moved me to say i never want to have that in my life now i wanted to have success i wanted to go and be you know top in sales i wanted to you know but but i saw what what he what money did to this man and i'll never ever forget it get me let's right now yeah say a prayer for that man let's do it heavenly father Father, we ask your mercy through your son and your spirit for this man that Terry knew, a son of yours, that your mercy may be showered upon him.

[533] If it is your will, it is always your will that we be saved from our iniquities and our sin.

[534] We pray for this man. We pray for his soul.

[535] He died suddenly.

[536] May your mercy be showered upon him.

[537] Amen.

[538] Thank you.

[539] Because, you know, we don't know.

[540] and it I mean that's a very sad story because you know here's the man I mean it looks like he just if he only read one of the gospel stories where Jesus talks about exactly that storing up all these treasures and then the next day you're gone yes and that's what we were talking about earlier yeah thankfully I mean we believe in purgatory that we believe that God's mercy isn't limited to this time frame because God's timeless.

[541] We don't know how long purgatory lasts, but I was moved to pray for that man because we trust that those prayers and God, you know, knows our prayers can always be efficacious.

[542] They may not do what we're praying for, but when good hearts approach the Lord in humble prayer, he will use that.

[543] Maybe for this man, you know, we don't know.

[544] but if it's not for him, maybe it's for the next younger man that's already started down that path that he can wake up to what's really valuable and our poor savior he worked so hard, he poured his life out so that people would hold to the pearl of great price but you know, that's a very modern story because you're not that old Terry and if you knew this man it's modern times where that fall from the gospel, and we don't know this man, but we know that he was caught up in earthly riches, and probably the government took it because he wasn't going to give it to anybody else.

[545] That's right.

[546] And it's just sad.

[547] It really is.

[548] And I just show that story because it moved me to realize how he was mixed up.

[549] And I hope I never get to that point.

[550] And that story I've told, I think I even shared it in my book, how to show you.

[551] your faith with anyone.

[552] Bishop Strickland, we got a few minutes left, but this paragraph 2408 shook me up because I haven't really thought this one through, but it's so true.

[553] We're talking about respect for goods of others again.

[554] The Seventh Commandment forbids theft that is usurping another's property against the reasonable will of the owner.

[555] There is no theft if consent can be presumed or if refusal is contrary to reason and the universal destination of goods.

[556] This is the case in obvious and urgent necessity when the only way to provide for the immediate essential needs, food, shelter, clothing is to be put at one's disposal and use the property of others.

[557] I get it.

[558] Give us an example when this would be applied because we might get to that point in our country with what's happening at this point of our country's time.

[559] So 2408, what are we saying here?

[560] Well, absolutely.

[561] I think what it points to, Terry, is that ultimately, once again, the value is the human person.

[562] And goods are on this earth.

[563] Food, shelter, clothing, a place to rest, all of that is here for humans, for the children of God.

[564] And so if you reach a point where people are dying because they can't get the food, then really it's the obligation of society or whoever has the food to share it.

[565] That's right.

[566] And certainly, you know, we're not, we would never encourage violent means.

[567] But I think really, Terry, I don't have children and a wife.

[568] But I can imagine for you as a man, and it's easier in some ways because you're not selfishly doing it for Terry.

[569] But if your wife was starving and you had to take action to make sure she had some food, then it's understandable what that paragraph is talking about.

[570] And people sadly have been, people probably today in the world are in those.

[571] circumstances.

[572] And so the right to property is important, and we don't steal other person's property, but the right to life is a higher importance than the right to property.

[573] And so, I mean, and it doesn't give license for the looting we've seen and all of that, but it does remind us when, is that, as the catechism has always worded very carefully, if we read it carefully, then it doesn't give us license to take someone else's property, but it does put the priorities there.

[574] Human life is the greatest value, the greatest treasure of this world because we're destined for the next world.

[575] Bishop Strickland, I'm going to get you in trouble, but I got to say it, and that is, I say that often, I'm sorry, but I really see the COVID -19 situation where 10 ,000 children are dying of starvation every month because of what we call collateral damage of COVID -19, the food supply has not, has been drying up.

[576] And I think, and I'm just going to be honest with you, I'm, I'm going to, I never, there's no way, I always will tell you what's on my mind, but my mind is that I'm wondering if the effects of COVID -19 of all the people losing jobs and people starving to death around the world are greater than the disease are the COVID -19, so I can only say from my, as a layman, that I'm beginning to wonder if we need to really look at this from a big perspective that, you know, we've never closed everything down for a virus before.

[577] And even in 1968, when we had, you know, 100 ,000 people die of a flu virus, we didn't close it down.

[578] I'm wondering now if we could just look at this objectively to say, wait a minute, people have a right to go to work.

[579] And if they want to, want to go to work, even though they might get this disease or this COVID -19.

[580] I know that's not your business, but my point is it's tied into this Eighth Commandment that we can't take people's livelihood away unless it was really a good reason.

[581] And I'm beginning to wonder after six months, what the heck's going on, man?

[582] People are losing they can't go to work.

[583] I see the suicide rate going out.

[584] I see divorces going up.

[585] I'm wondering this collateral damage is so great that it's time to say time out look what Switzerland did and they didn't have all those issues they kept everybody working and they didn't have any more damage to the public so I know this is a kind of worms Bishop Strickland I'm only saying tying it to this commandment the 7th commandment and that is that we can't steal and I'm wondering if for political reasons some of this is going on And I would just say that I hope it's not because that would be really tragic because it's the livelihood of a lot of people and even bringing people to, you know, commit suicide because of this situation and the starvation.

[586] So I'm just going to leave that where it's at.

[587] But I just had to say it because it came to my mind thinking about this commandment.

[588] Well, what I'm reminded of, Terry, is as we believe, human life is sacred from conception to natural death.

[589] So, yes, I talk about the sanctity of the life in the womb all.

[590] the time with those children that you mentioned that is a next level that we have to pay attention to because those are innocent and and when a life is when someone dies anywhere across the spectrum they're our brothers as moral people guided by the gospel of jesus christ we need to speak up for children that are in in sort of some kind of trafficking situation yes or children that are neglected because of economic choices.

[591] If children are dying, absolutely.

[592] I mean, just because they're born, it's not like, oh, Bishop Strickland doesn't care if they get born.

[593] He just cares about, we have to care about all of them.

[594] That's right.

[595] We have to care about the four years old, the 14 -year -olds that may be in sex trafficking and dying because of that.

[596] We have to care about those people crossing a border and dying because of crazy laws that are unjust.

[597] I mean, all of those absolutely, we, I mean, and it becomes overwhelming.

[598] But when it comes down, if we could flip a switch and say, suddenly all of our laws are going to hold the human person from conception to natural death as the greatest value, then a lot of the corporate stealing that goes on in the manipulations of people's lives for the sake of profit, all of that would be become.

[599] begin to be addressed.

[600] I mean, this world is never going to be heaven on earth, but we've got a lot of work to do if we use those basic principles that human life at whatever age is the greatest value, the greatest treasure.

[601] Well said, we've got a minute.

[602] Could you give us your blessing for our listeners?

[603] And I want to just say thank you, Bishop Strickland, for taking the time to teach us the basics on our faith.

[604] So if we could get a blessing, that'd be grand.

[605] Sure.

[606] The Lord be with you.

[607] your spirit.

[608] Almighty God, we ask your blessing for Terry and for all the listeners, all of his crew that helped to make this time on the radio possible, that we may continue to seek the truth and humbly be changed by that truth in the power of God's love.

[609] The name of the Father, of the Son, the Holy Spirit.

[610] Amen.

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[619] St. Faustina's Prayer for Priests.

[620] Oh, my Jesus, I beg thee on behalf of the whole church, grant it love and the light of thy spirit, and give power to the words of priests, so that hardened hearts might be brought to repentance and return to thee, O Lord.

[621] Lord, give us holy priests, thou thyself maintain them in holiness.

[622] O divine and great high priest, may the power of thy mercy accompany them everywhere and protect them from the devil's traps and snares, which are continually being set for the souls of priests.

[623] May the power of thy mercy, O Lord, shatter and bring to naught, all that might tarnish the sanctity of priests.

[624] For thou canst do all things.

[625] Amen.

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