#1648 - Reggie Watts

[0] Joe Rogan podcast, checking out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] I'm just staring at shooting stars.

[4] Of course.

[5] Imagine what a black hole sounds like.

[6] What do you think it sounds like?

[7] I think, didn't someone, they simulated it or something?

[8] Some physicists simulated it.

[9] Really?

[10] Yeah, it's like, it does make a sound.

[11] That's the best part of Interstellar.

[12] Oh, yeah.

[13] I mean, my favorite part of it.

[14] Oh, man. Chinese theater.

[15] It was so loud and fucking awesome.

[16] Oh, you want to see.

[17] see it there?

[18] I want to see it again there so bad.

[19] IMAX is the place to see it right?

[20] It was the IMAX theater he made it at like he was testing it there to make sure it was too part and it was that's a bold movie man very bold movie.

[21] Oh yeah super sick too.

[22] You just think of all the elements of people have to follow along especially the ending spoiler alert.

[23] Oh yeah totally.

[24] When he's like looking at himself through like what is happening there like you got to like if you're you know you take you like a kid there he's like Dad, what is going on here?

[25] It's like, I don't know, man. We're in the same spot.

[26] I can't really explain it, son.

[27] We'll talk about it later.

[28] We're in the same spot.

[29] We'll get it on DVD.

[30] Does it have the sound of it?

[31] That robot was so dope.

[32] It's just translating as a great movie sound, but it's just a rocket also that it sounds like.

[33] Yeah, this isn't working.

[34] Yeah, it's fine.

[35] I would imagine without the rocket.

[36] It sounds like stars getting smushed.

[37] Yeah, it's just like, I think it was like they were saying like it was like a, you know, that type of a thing.

[38] Just the fact that that's a real thing, that in the center of every galaxy is this giant mass that's eating stars.

[39] Star eaters.

[40] Just sucking them into who knows what on the other end.

[41] You know, it's great.

[42] I love reading about it.

[43] I mean, I haven't read about Blackhulls in a really long time since I think a Michi Okaku book that I had, but it was a while a while ago.

[44] But, I mean, it's so fascinating.

[45] you know that point it's like the event horizon it's like theoretically it wouldn't work like this but theoretically there's just like a membrane and you're just close close you're fine you're fine you're fine you just get sucked in and just stretched and broken just crushed bits and then i guess just reconstituted as pure energy on the other side yeah it definitely doesn't just get to destroy it it gets redistributed they're redistributors we're just so concerned about the finite life that we live like we're so concerned of preserving this very fragile existence that the idea of getting reconstituted into pure energy in another dimension is like horrific but that's why we're here we're here right we're here because a star exploded yeah we're made of stars what's that old song we are star dust we are golden we are billion year old cob is that from the 60s got to get ourselves back to the God.

[46] It's like the strawberry alarm clock or something.

[47] Joni Mitchell did a version of it, but I don't think she was the original.

[48] Maybe she was original.

[49] Maybe she wrote it.

[50] I don't know.

[51] Johnny Mitchell artist.

[52] Message to love.

[53] Crosby.

[54] Oh, Crosby still doesn't match.

[55] When you were singing it, the way you were singing it, that's Crosby.

[56] Can we give us a little bit before we get in trouble?

[57] Give me a little taste.

[58] Give me a little taste.

[59] Give us 2 .6 seconds.

[60] Give me a little taste of like 1970s acid.

[61] 1970s acid and marijuana grown in that Mendocino range where that Hulu series Sasquatch was made Yeah There it is He was walking on the road Oh Yeah I haven't heard this You never heard this?

[62] Oh my goodness This is classic I got to get into them Oh, Yaskar Keep it going Fuck it If we get pulled We get pulled Let's test Spotify's algorithms out It's like the Borg Man We are golden We are Being And we've got to Get ourselves Back to the glass Oh That's gorgeous It's pretty fucking good man Especially when you're high There's something about being high That old music just resonates, man. There's some like Allman Brothers songs that are different when you're high.

[63] You listen to him when you're like Midnight Rider?

[64] I don't know if I know.

[65] You don't know Midnight Rider?

[66] I'm terrible.

[67] I don't know.

[68] I apologize.

[69] I'll see it.

[70] You're a music.

[71] You're a musician.

[72] I know I'm supposed to know all music.

[73] This is outrageous.

[74] I'm sorry.

[75] Your mind is filled with electronica.

[76] I know.

[77] I know my zone is like so very specific and very surprising to people, but I love it.

[78] Yeah, that's all that matters, man. Of course, of course, but, I mean, I love, you know, I was my philosophy on music when they're like, what kind of music you listen to?

[79] What kind of like, I'm like, anything that's good.

[80] That's always my answer.

[81] It could be anything.

[82] Anything that's good.

[83] Anything is good.

[84] I mean, it's all subjective, but.

[85] What were you going to tell me?

[86] There was a lady you're going to, I stopped you.

[87] I said, I'll save it for the podcast.

[88] Oh, yeah, yeah, right.

[89] Yeah, my friend Kirsten Joy Weiss.

[90] She's a trick shooter.

[91] Like a pistol shooter?

[92] Yeah, pistol.

[93] And she lives in Cody, Wyoming, and she is amazing.

[94] Just a really cool independent thinker.

[95] Like, she loves sci -fi.

[96] But she sent me these, I'll see if I can send you a video.

[97] You can see, she did like this, I guess, a shot that hasn't been duplicated before.

[98] Look at this.

[99] Oh, yeah.

[100] She's leaning back for people to not listen.

[101] She's got her shins down on the ground and leaning back behind them, and she's shooting 30.

[102] yards behind her.

[103] Yeah.

[104] Backwards.

[105] Gun Pilates.

[106] She calls it Gun Pilates.

[107] Was that this one?

[108] Is that the long shooting?

[109] Or is it?

[110] Long range trick shots, that was called?

[111] This says gun polis trick shot.

[112] Okay.

[113] There's a whole market for hot girls with guns.

[114] Do you know that?

[115] Like the hot girl gun world?

[116] Yeah, it's funny.

[117] But you know what?

[118] The interesting thing that's different about her, she's almost like, she's just a badass shooter that happens to be.

[119] an attractive woman.

[120] But she's like, she's the real deal.

[121] She was going to be on, she trained in the Olympics, on the Olympic team.

[122] And I like her videos because she talks about, I mean, it's called the joy of shooting, obviously, but, but, I mean, it's a play on her name, but, but she really does mean it.

[123] She's just talking about like, hey, this is a cool exercise and kind of like a meditative exercise, like shooting and target practice is meditative.

[124] And the cool thing about her, she does everything herself.

[125] Every video that you see is just her with a camera and a tripod and all her editing.

[126] She's super DIY.

[127] That's what I like about her.

[128] That's cool.

[129] She's sick.

[130] And she's like very philosophical.

[131] Very cool.

[132] What are you saying, Jamie?

[133] The videos playing on his phone.

[134] Oh, I'm so sorry.

[135] She's going to stop that right now.

[136] Sorry, Kirsten, wherever you are.

[137] She's badass.

[138] It is true, though, that shooting is like very meditative, right?

[139] Oh, completely.

[140] You're kidding?

[141] I mean, it's like any, you know, it's like a, it's like a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's, You know, you're shooting a project, whether you're shooting, or it's a bow and arrow, or it's a crossbow, or it's a sling, or you're throwing a ball.

[142] Even darts.

[143] Oh, man, darts especially.

[144] Yeah.

[145] Darts especially.

[146] Like, just to try to get that arc right, and you're like.

[147] Yeah.

[148] You're like thinking, not thinking, muscle memory, learning.

[149] Also, like, the weirdness of, like, letting that thing go.

[150] Like, you don't want to let it, you don't want to drop your hand down.

[151] You got to, like, release it at the exact right time.

[152] Like, yes, yes.

[153] I know it's, I went axe throwing in Great Falls, Montana.

[154] recently.

[155] That sounds like a Great Falls Montana activity.

[156] Oh, are you kidding?

[157] It's so great fall.

[158] I went with my friend Kelly.

[159] He's awesome.

[160] His family's cool.

[161] I went with my mom.

[162] Your mom was axe throwing?

[163] My mom, no. My mom was like 83 just like sitting in a chair, drinking wine.

[164] It's just like three feet away from people throwing axes at the walls.

[165] That's hilarious.

[166] This is so awesome.

[167] Sipping wine why people hurled blades.

[168] Yes.

[169] That's very funny.

[170] My friend Kelly was like, he's so ridiculously good at it.

[171] It was stupid.

[172] He was, he'd like, not look.

[173] He'd turn around and throw the axe behind his back and it would land on the target.

[174] He would take two axes and throw them simultaneously and they would land.

[175] And he's not like, he's just a natural at it.

[176] It's very strange.

[177] He doesn't practice?

[178] I mean, he's been there a few times, but he was already a natural the first time he went.

[179] So like the people who work there just like, hey, are you on a league?

[180] You know, like that type of thing.

[181] He's like, nah, I just do it for fun.

[182] You know, it's like a movie or right, right?

[183] About axe throwing.

[184] Naturals are weird.

[185] Yeah.

[186] Like a natural in anything.

[187] It's a strange thing when you see someone who's just really good at something.

[188] right away it just makes sense you know it's like they just have this ability to like oh yeah like this and you're like wait but i've been training for five years yeah they just see it and they just have it yeah but it's annoying it is annoying if you're a person who's been like studying your whole life and some guy comes around oh you mean like this thong yeah and like and then you've got then you've got then you got bodies are not with it bodies are not fair you know they're not fair Some people's bodies just work way better.

[189] Oh, man. I mean, for me, like, I was had a good ear.

[190] So, like, if I heard an accent, if I heard, you know, Olivia Newton -John on the radio, whatever, I could mimic the her timbre and the texture and really, really easily.

[191] And so for me, music came pretty easy.

[192] I mean, obviously, the theory is the theory, and that's something you have to learn.

[193] But I had an ear.

[194] So even if I didn't learn theory, but I kept playing with musicians, I would have been fine because I would have figured it out.

[195] When did you start?

[196] learning music age five wow that's a that's a nice advantage yeah so you grew up with a musical mind yeah yeah I mean I love you know my my parents you know we were in Europe for a while because of the military air force and we moved around and then I saw I was born in Stuttgart and then we moved to I think like Italy ended up in Spain for two years the final two years till age four then we moved to Great Falls Montana to Malstrom Air Force base but in that time you know I just love my parents love jazz, Ray Charles, you know, my mom listened to French, a lot of French or European folk music, like anana muskuri and Edith Piaf and things like that.

[197] So I was hearing that all the time and I saw Ray Charles and I loved the way he moved and he had the sunglasses and playing piano.

[198] And so I used to sit at the edge of the table and pretend like I was Ray Charles and they were like, oh, let's get him a toy piano and they did.

[199] And then my mom was like, do you want to have lessons or I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[200] So I was like, you.

[201] I was like, you.

[202] I was like, you.

[203] So I was like, you know, almost six, five, and I started studying classical piano of, like, private lessons.

[204] Is there anyone that's learned piano without lessons?

[205] Because I know people have learned guitar without lessons.

[206] Oh, yeah, 100%.

[207] Yeah.

[208] It's just by ear.

[209] The piano actually is an easier instrument to learn by ear because it's a grid.

[210] It's just a grid.

[211] It's not like when you have a stringed instrument where you have like a fretless board, like a cello or violin or something like that, right?

[212] It's like there's no fret, there's no marking, so you have to really know where to put your finger and you have to know the technique of bowing there's a lot of complicated stuff in a piano it's like uh you know note right and so and then you then you start to notice oh it's a pattern it keeps repeating but it just goes higher and higher or lower and lower that's interesting does it feel more limited because it's just you're pressing buttons rather than the the creativity that's involved in a musical instrument that has chords that you can manipulate no i i would say that uh i think what's great about a piano is that, yes, you have like the basic, these are chords and things like that, but you have dynamics, then you have note combinations.

[213] And then if you really want to get crazy, like John Cage or whatever, prepared pianos where they're putting screws in the string board, you know, or in the, I forget what it's called, but the board where the strings are.

[214] What do you mean?

[215] The soundboard, I guess.

[216] It's, so they would put a screw next to a string so that when you hit a note, it would just vibrate against the metal.

[217] And they would have certain keys prepared so they call it prepared piano so John Cage wrote a bunch of prepared piano pieces where they'd modify the soundboard of the piano and as and then he would write music for it and he would play the music and certain notes would have metallic sounds and sometimes notes wouldn't be there a bunch of stuff so the piano is like it's a good basic instrument that's a good foundation now when digital keyboards came out a lot of people like resisted the sound of digital keywords like I remember when jump when Eddie Van Halen yeah huge deal right people were very upset hugely upset like what the fuck is this you guys were running with the devil yeah how did you get to this I know but yeah still a good song man oh it's an amazing sign but that's how things go right yeah someone comes up I mean you know essentially synthesizers you know that came from what like the 50s or whatever like oscillators things it made it's enough all it is just a sound going eh and then you have another sound which collides with it which creates texture, right, because they're battling each other.

[218] And you change the wavelength of frequency, then multiply that and put it on to a keyboard.

[219] Now you've got a synthesizer, right?

[220] But then Bukla back in the day had his idea synthesis was just like a strip of like random sounds you could manipulate, just move up and down.

[221] And so there was kind of this battle between Bukla's philosophy, which was a West Coast philosophy, and Mogue's philosophy, which was the East Coast philosophy.

[222] But Moog was like, we're going to make the interface a really easy to understand one, which is the keyboard, the piano keyboard.

[223] What I was gonna get to is like, did the current piano keyboards, like the current electrical keyboards, have they gotten to the place where they can actually recreate the sound of a great piano?

[224] Really close, really, really close.

[225] Could you tell the difference?

[226] It's hard because it depends on the context.

[227] If you're listening to it just naked and then you're running through tests, like the lowest note, a note in the middle of the keyboard, and then the highest note, I think someone who plays piano, they might be able to tell, but now the sampling is so crazy.

[228] They'll sample one note so many times, and then they duplicate that all the way down the length of the keyboard.

[229] And when you hear, you can't really hear the difference, especially in a song.

[230] It just sounds like a real piano, or it sounds like a real Rhodes.

[231] Like Nord makes the Nord Electro, which is what I usually use, it emulates electric pianos, Wurlitzer's and also pianos and I guess organs as well but that it sounds so good it almost sounds sometimes better really sometimes just because it's it's like imagine the optimal version of a Rhodes like Mark 2 or something like that or whatever like a very popular Rhodes that's a type piano yeah it's a yeah so a Rhodes electric piano it's what you heard the most in the 70s that and Wurlitzer wherelitzer sounds more plucky it's like a you've heard it like ooh You're making me...

[232] Yeah, yeah.

[233] Dynamica song...

[234] That's a whorletzer.

[235] So you've got that.

[236] And then you've got Rhodes, which is more like...

[237] Fly like an eagle.

[238] Oh.

[239] All that stuff from the high stuff.

[240] Yeah.

[241] So, and the roads is a little bit more versatile.

[242] A worlditzer is very...

[243] Oh, that's a whirlitzer.

[244] But, you know, all these pianos, it's like, imagine them at their peak condition.

[245] Because they're always...

[246] They're mechanical, right?

[247] So it's like there's always, you have to send them to a tech to tune them up.

[248] You know, maybe the pickups aren't working right.

[249] Or maybe, you know, there's an element that's not functioning properly.

[250] So imagine the most optimal version of that instrument in just that stays constant.

[251] And that's kind of like what a Nord is.

[252] And I know that there's people out there going like, there's no, you know, there's a difference.

[253] But in general, you know, keyboard players, I know they're very comfortable playing.

[254] Like my friend who was a Rhodes Hammond B3 clavinet dude.

[255] He loved the clap.

[256] And the clavnets kind of sounds like a, like, wampanet, dun, done, okay, not the vocal part, but there's a keyboard and that's, and that is the world server, or not the world server, it's a, the clavonet with a wah -wah pedal, which was very, very popular.

[257] But he played all of it.

[258] Rhodes, clavonet, Hammond V3, and it was insane to watch him, like, drag this to all the gigs.

[259] Like, he dragged a full Hammond B3, And I'm like we're carrying it like a sarcophagus, you know, like out of this van and then like into the gig plus the cabinet Went to the Leslie the rotating speaker.

[260] So it was huge.

[261] I mean it was huge and then he would put his clavinet on top of that and he had his roads and so every gig we had all those things But then the Nord came out and he was like ah fuck it He just started playing the Nord because the Nord sounded so good and that was in the early days and now it had everything It had it well kind of yes it does you can but you would still probably want to separate you'd get two you'd get one that's like like of the stage, which is for piano sounds, and then there's one that's kind of like more oriented to roads.

[262] And then you have an HP series which is semi -weighted, so it feels more like a Rhodes.

[263] So it feels, it's got a mechanical weighting as opposed to synthesizers which feels like you're pressing a nothing.

[264] Like it's just super, you could like solo all over that thing with no resistance.

[265] But the HP series is semi -weighted and then you got the Hammond version, which has like stacks and drawbars on it.

[266] So it really goes.

[267] And then you can hook that into an actual Leslie cabinet.

[268] So they make smaller Leslie cabinet.

[269] So you have a small Leslie cabinet, a Nord organ simulator, and you've got a Hammond B3.

[270] So what these simulators do, are they literally recording the sound of an actual piano?

[271] So it's not a sound that the thing makes.

[272] You're just pressing a play.

[273] Yes, as far as I understand it.

[274] Yeah, they're essentially, they're doing oversampling or they're sampling multiple, multiple times the instrument.

[275] It's like, think of it as like a super high -res scan and then it's all in like how it's projected through to the amplifier that's great make sure that the sound actually resembles a piano or recreates a piano yeah and a lot of it has to do with the interface like how how do the keys react does is it similar to how the instrument reacts and then they can build in all kinds of algorithms for that so how hard you're hitting it or if you hit it really hard does it have that bite like a Rhodes if you hit it softly just like ding but then if you hit it really hard it goes d -d -d -d -d -d -d -d -d -d -ing kind of terrible sorry there's manipulation mechanical manipulation yes and they like a real instrument yeah and they they put that in there and then like you know i remember getting my first synth was a roland w -30 which was technically the first workstation which was it was a synthesizer that had a sampler built into it um you could write on it It had a 16 -track, I think it was a 16 -track sequencer and was just like a regular synthesizer, but it had after -touch.

[276] So, like, if you press a sound and then you pressed a little harder, it would actually make another sound.

[277] And you could program any way you wanted, right?

[278] So it can recreate pretty much any sound that you would in a regular musical instrument.

[279] But is real important, it's like, is real, it doesn't matter.

[280] because if you know that what you're doing is pressing play on this thing and it's recreating the sound of a piano rather than actually that little felt -covered hammer hitting the string and creating that sound, is that important that that actually takes place because there's implications to this kind of simulation of stuff that would apply to a lot of other things that make people uncomfortable like love, like artificial love.

[281] Some robot lady that is what we're doing we've recorded all the sounds your lover could make you know and you know and if you spank her like maybe she'll like it maybe she won't you're like what what are we doing you know what I mean but I mean if we could there's implications here right like we could get to artificial life and you could have a friend that's not really a friend who like sometimes he flakes on you but it's like what is this fucking weird program this guy's running what's a human I know I mean you know taking it to that level.

[282] I mean, well, you know, instrument -wise, there's people that argue, like, I have to have my, I mean, like, Regina Spector's not going to show up at a gig playing, um, she's not going to play, like, an electronic version of a piano.

[283] She's not going to play an electronic piano.

[284] She's going to play a real piano because Tori Amos.

[285] She loves, yeah, Tori Amos.

[286] Like, they have to have their bosendorferes or their Steinways or whatever.

[287] They, they need that instrument because that's how they create.

[288] They need the weight of it, like, because when you're behind a piano, I mean, the weight of it and seeing the lid up if that's how you have your playing style, but if the lids up and you can see the length of it.

[289] Is it a sound issue with the lid up or down?

[290] Yes, it is, yeah.

[291] What is the difference?

[292] They're made to project.

[293] So that's why you'll see grand pianos at an angle facing, like if you went to a classical performance or went to a, yeah, like a theater.

[294] You would see the piano and then the lid up.

[295] It projects the sound outward to the audience.

[296] And then I guess there's a microphone that's near the piano that picks it up and you have to figure out where to put the microphone.

[297] They'll do that, and sometimes they'll do contact mics as well.

[298] Oh, like a guitar.

[299] Yeah, exactly.

[300] So it plugs right in.

[301] Yeah, they'll put it like on the soundboard.

[302] So sometimes it'll be on the soundboard or a hybrid system.

[303] And so they can mix in between for amplification.

[304] But in like traditional settings in a medium -sized room, they would just let the piano project into the room naturally.

[305] There's a thing that we're hitting on here though, right?

[306] With things being real or not real.

[307] And in musical instruments, that seems like a very, an applicable analogy.

[308] There's a thing that happens all the time now with musical instruments where you can actually, I mean, you can recreate drums without any drums, right?

[309] Oh, oh, easily.

[310] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[311] Well, I mean, synthesizers were mimicking all kinds of instruments for a long time.

[312] Not very well, but, you know, early drum machines.

[313] Yeah.

[314] Basically, it's all the same principle.

[315] It's a sound wave that's being generated and then collisions with a secondary oscillator or sometimes even more.

[316] and then you're changing properties of each of those and you can change like how long it plays or if you press it once does it keep holding if you keep holding it or do you press it and keep holding it and it stops?

[317] You know, there's these all these parameters like a three -dimensional equation you can shape things so that's why you got like that's all synthesizer that's synthesized so like early organs when organs were popular back in the day in the 70s or whatever and you had your sheet music and your organ and it had the drum machine that Shuggy Otis used you know, or Slide in the Family Stone notoriously use the organ module for drum sounds and built an entire track around it.

[318] It's all synthesizers.

[319] It's crazy.

[320] Or the 808, you know, the famous Roland 808, which is like probably the most well -known drum machine and the planet.

[321] It was just a synthesizer that only focused on making drum -like sounds that you could program.

[322] I remember that, obviously, there's a lot of people that have a lot of issues with lot of these things like other musicians but the first rumblings I ever heard about it was drum machines yeah people that did not like a fake drum it adhered in the back going yeah and they'd get mad yeah it's fucking drum machine yes yes of course they're gonna get mad I mean because it like puts it they they perceive it as a threat to you know perhaps an entire career based on like being a drummer is it that or is it also that they are no longer appreciating someone's skill like if you hear someone play there's skill to it and you you enjoy it you enjoy like oh look at him go off like bill burr is really good at the drums and he fucking loves drummers and love him loves to talk about drummers and he'll send me clips of guys going off with drums yeah like people who are really good with drums like and if there's something like you're getting a per there's a piece of that person that's coming out through their playing like if Travis barker goes off on the drums like that's Travis Barker expressing himself.

[323] Yeah, well, that's the cool thing about it.

[324] There is no threat, essentially.

[325] I mean, I'm speaking, going back to that threat kind of thing.

[326] It's like, there is no threat in that.

[327] That person's going to be who they are, and no one's going to replace a drummer.

[328] I mean, certainly, I used to play sample drums on the keyboard live for hip -hop groups.

[329] You know, so I'd just be, but I'm just playing it, but because it has, it's a drum kit sound and it's oversample, it's sampled so that each however I hit it if I hit it harder the snare sounds a little bit harder hit or if it's softer it resonates a little bit more I would get into the the feel of it so I was kind of like a keyboard drummer right but so there's that crossover element of it but a lot of drummers you know when you're listening to music and you listen to a drum a beat you're like wow that's a really well done they just like rhythm so it's not really about like oh you know fuck those guys you know it's a it's a drum machine they could have just got a drummer it's like people don't really think like that anymore now a lot of drummers program their own beats and because they just like rhythm but uh you know of course a player playing it you just can't there is no substitution for that you know hearing people play and a lot of drummers started playing like drum machines like remember the end of erikabadu or no the root song um ba ba ba da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da that whole thing that whole thing that whole song, it just starts cycling that melody.

[330] And then you hear at the very, it's so tasteful.

[331] The very, very end, it was when drum and bass was making, was kind of on the scene for a little while since 95.

[332] And you hear at the end, Questlove starts going, he's playing like drum and bass producers making drum and bass beats.

[333] So he's mimicking that.

[334] And then there was like a bunch of cats in my own town on our jam nights that purposefully would set up a kit where it would have two or three snares, like this guy, KJ.

[335] Saka, monster drummer, two or three different kit.

[336] So essentially, he'd just rotate this way and he'd have a different kit, different kit here, and a different kit there.

[337] So it would be, dash, gosh, gosh, dash, dash, dash, dash, so it would sound like sliced samples stuck together to make a beat, just like they actually made the beats.

[338] Right.

[339] So you get this call and response.

[340] that happens.

[341] So you get like, here's drum, so there's drum machines, then there's sampled programming, and then you got drummers mimicking sampled programming, and then sampled programmers mixing and hybridizing both of those approaches at the same time.

[342] So music is like, there are no limits, and the confines of the constraints or introduction of new technology is more exciting to me as a creator than anything.

[343] Well, you're a technology enthusiast, though, on top of being a musician, so that also applies.

[344] But it's like there's a difference in whether or not you're appreciating someone's artistic manipulation of musical instruments or whether you're just appreciating the final sound.

[345] Like for some people that don't like myself, I don't know anything about music, but I like sounds.

[346] I like, oh, that sounds cool.

[347] And if the sound comes out of an electronic simulator or synthesizer, it's cool.

[348] But I think there's something that's really special about like the way Gary Clark Jr. plays guitar.

[349] Oh, are you kidding?

[350] You know what I mean?

[351] Like there's something about like knowing that that's a dude with strings and he's making these wild noises.

[352] Oh man. Yeah.

[353] I mean, you know, do you know Thundercat?

[354] Yes.

[355] Okay.

[356] So Thundercat, genius, total genius.

[357] Good friend of mine.

[358] I just, I love him so much.

[359] He plays the bass like he's playing three instruments at once, right?

[360] He's, he's one of those guys that's, he's a hybrid guy.

[361] So he's taking like the idea of multi -track music and he's playing it live on his base.

[362] So you hear him essentially like how a beatboxer will beatbox and you think you're hearing the whole song, like let's say they're doing a cover or whatever and it's just them.

[363] There's no effects.

[364] They're just doing it.

[365] And you're like, oh, there's the melody line.

[366] There's the hook.

[367] Oh, and there's that drumbeat.

[368] Oh, and there's the baseline.

[369] But they're doing this trick where some of their, some of their body is playing aspects of the rhythm.

[370] Melody -wise, they're figuring out ways to sneak breaths in use an inhale as a rhythm sound and exhale as a rhythm sound then they're using their voice to put a melody in there then sneaking a baseline in between the notes fluctuating and there's actually some notes missing but your brain fills it in because it's a cover you've heard it before so it's a trick so they're essentially suggesting the things you already know by constantly referencing them but they're sewing it together one thing and Thundercast the same way he's like playing rhythms chords melodies at the same time all at the same time and it's just mind blowing I love watching musicians is this his own sort of style that he's created yeah it's kind of like imagine like it's an evolution of jazz fusion so jacopostorius for instance like the you know the innovator fretless electric bass bass guitar and then you got like I'm forgetting his name Clark his last name was Clark but he was giant hands amazing bass player or Pino Paladino you know like they're these monster bass players they have like five string bases you know just like thick necked bases and they're playing what's a normal base I have how many strings four four strings yeah and they got five sometimes even six string bases they're just insane and so you got like people that are hybridizing it's like this is my instrument I learn on a four string I can like hold it down I can do this I can do that but I want more so they start figuring out ways to sneak in like oh now I'm going to make a sound if I hit the body of the instrument, the pickups, I put in a different pickup.

[371] So when I hit the body of the instrument, it sounds like a drum sound.

[372] So now I'm like hitting it strumming, doing hammer -on, so I don't actually need to be strumming, and I'm hitting, doing melodies, still playing a melody on the fretboard, and then pulling, slapping, you know, it's crazy.

[373] But, yes, but to your point, musicianship to see it is amazing.

[374] But there are musicians, I'm trying to think of his.

[375] name, short -term memory gone.

[376] He plays a grid, which was like pretty popular, like six or seven years ago.

[377] It's just a grid of lights and you assign sounds to it.

[378] And he's playing both of them with his hands.

[379] So he's playing samples and beats and rhythms that sounds like electronic tracks.

[380] And when you're hearing it, you're like, oh, he's just playing along to a track.

[381] It's like, no, he's doing everything at once.

[382] So it sounds like a full -on techno track.

[383] Huh.

[384] But he's like, you know, and but he's like, you know it's insane to me it's funny how people like to dismiss certain things as being like either not legitimate or not good enough like scratching like DJs like some DJs they they yeah they are sampling other people's music but the way they're putting it together is unique and it's really entertaining like there's something cool about like you know Russell Pee's is a legit DJ.

[385] Oh, I didn't know that.

[386] You didn't know that?

[387] Yeah, Russell's legit.

[388] And you talk to Russell about DJs that are not really DJs.

[389] They just press play on the laptop.

[390] He gets furious.

[391] Yes.

[392] He fucking hates it because he really spins records.

[393] He's got the headphones, he's doing the whole thing.

[394] Yeah, he's mixing live.

[395] Yeah, exactly.

[396] Well, yeah, you know, I mean, essentially like, you know, people that I've been asked to DJ parties and I'm literally, it's what you call selectors.

[397] You can be a selector.

[398] Don't call yourself a DJ.

[399] You can call yourself a selector.

[400] You're just someone who's, like oh well oh this song would be nice next you know and then you press the the song ends and then you press play for the next song that's isn't DJ's a weird word right because it used to be disc jockey which is a guy on the radio that just played songs right that's true so that's the original DJ had nothing to do with mixing not not not technically I mean other than the records right so like back in the day like oh I had a record player and the guy's like oh wait a minute what what and I'm like oh but if I also use the volume fader so that so they are They were still a DJ technically.

[401] But not the guys who were on like Wolfman Jack.

[402] Hey, everybody's Wolfman Jack.

[403] They were just DJs.

[404] Yeah, like that was the original deal.

[405] Like the word DJ changed.

[406] 100%.

[407] 100%.

[408] No. But it's just, you know, it's how we develop things.

[409] Like, hey, Mr. DJ.

[410] You know, it's just, there's still a disc jockey.

[411] The DJ saved my life from a broken heart.

[412] Yes.

[413] I mean, oh, God.

[414] I mean, it's so funny when you talk about artifice and, you know, the difference between like, like, let's say, produced music.

[415] versus, oh, that uses samples and drum machines and things like that, and then performed music, live music.

[416] It's interesting, the era that we're in now, I would say arguably for the last 10, 15 years, moved away from bands so much.

[417] I mean, bands still exist in subculture, for sure, and you'll see them like on alternative magazines, and there's tons of bands, there's bands still.

[418] But the stuff that hits the mainstream, that you get essentially like Nickelodeon, Disney artists that get installed as pop stars, right?

[419] Nothing against them, they're fine people or whatever, but the system is based on, the real stars of this system are producers.

[420] It's producer -based music.

[421] So the producer is kind of the star.

[422] The singer is kind of the front person.

[423] So they're the face of it, right?

[424] So they represent the music.

[425] So in a way, it's kind of like corporate music.

[426] You know, it's like their tracks, like some of them can be like really great sounding, but then you look at the, The liner notes in 14 songwriters, you know, whether that's true or not.

[427] Some people just want to be included because they're in the room or whatever.

[428] But you get, like, credits of like 14 songwriters, seven songwriters, five songwriters.

[429] And then the producer is really the one that makes it all shine.

[430] It's not like Fleetwood Mac, you know, sitting down and recording rumors.

[431] Right, right, right.

[432] Which is a whole different thing.

[433] When you hear that, you're like, oh, my God, this is so beautiful and constructed in the musicianship and the production, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[434] Now you get tracks that, you know, they're cool.

[435] I mean, they're fine.

[436] They sound good in the club and all of that stuff.

[437] But in comparison, it's a different, it's a complete paradigm shift.

[438] It's interesting.

[439] It's got to be so difficult to get a bunch of people that are really creative to agree how music comes together.

[440] Like if you get five people that are in a band and, you know, you get your guitar player, your lead singer, the drummer, everybody's all together and they have to figure out how to agree.

[441] Right?

[442] That's got to be so difficult because you have eagerness.

[443] and different visions and different creativity and I think the drum solo should be longer.

[444] Well, you know, it depends on the situation, right?

[445] Because sometimes there's a songwriter, right?

[446] There's one songwriter in the band.

[447] Or there's two songwriters in the band.

[448] The band's a five piece.

[449] So essentially in a healthy, functioning group of musicians, whether it's collectively created or whether it's steered by one or two people, they all agree that they're in service of what the music wants to be.

[450] So, like, when you hear something, like, oh, that's dope, can you play that again?

[451] Like, oh, yeah, oh, that's dope.

[452] Hold on, I got an idea.

[453] It's more like that.

[454] It's, in a healthy situation, you're just, you're hearing something, you're inspired, and you're adding something.

[455] Then someone's like, okay, great.

[456] And like, yeah, but we need a bridge or something.

[457] It's like, well, I was kind of messing with these chords.

[458] And, like, actually, I like that, but can you change that third chord?

[459] Oh, like this?

[460] Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

[461] That's kind of like, in my best healthy.

[462] experience is that's how music is made because you're not like personally generating the music you're listening to something that wants to exist in the world and you're kind of in service of it is generally how I like to look at it some people will yeah their eagle will their ego will come into it but their their ego will get into it and they start to confuse where they're getting their ideas from because they start to claim full responsibility for it right was thinking about how many great bands fall apart because of personality battles.

[463] You know?

[464] Especially when they started in a great place.

[465] Yeah.

[466] You know, when a band starts and they're like, oh, yeah, we were having so much fun and then something happened.

[467] We got more fame.

[468] Somebody brings their girlfriend into the recording sessions.

[469] Somebody brings her girlfriend in the recording session or a manager, you know, gets involved and starts dividing people and then, hey, man, you know, you're the real star.

[470] You know, that kind of stuff.

[471] That kind of shit.

[472] Yeah, and then...

[473] Oh, my God.

[474] That's so common.

[475] If that happens, like, I'm out of there.

[476] That's not why I'm doing what I'm doing.

[477] It's like, you know, I had this thing with Louis back in the day Louis C .K. So I did this gig.

[478] He wanted me to do his, or he had me be like kind of a music coordinator for Louis, the series.

[479] And they said, here's the budget, right?

[480] Can you duplicate all of these songs for my series?

[481] Because we don't want to pay the licensing fee for the actual tracks.

[482] So we want sound -alikes, right, to these his tracks that he wanted to be on the thing.

[483] So I was like, okay, cool.

[484] I got together like a sick dude, my friend Matt Kilmer, who's amazing frame drummer, drum player, producer guy.

[485] He comes in, finds these really cool group of guys.

[486] They come together.

[487] They're all improvisers.

[488] They're super fast.

[489] I have a list of music we're supposed to replicate.

[490] We just go through it.

[491] Matt's guiding them through it, MDing the whole thing.

[492] I'm just kind of coordinating.

[493] We get everything done.

[494] And then at the end of it, we're like, cool.

[495] We got all the songs.

[496] They're like, yeah, we love it.

[497] And I'm like, now we just need to mix the songs.

[498] And then they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[499] you know, no one's saying anything about mixing.

[500] I was like, are you kidding me?

[501] Like, you know that mixing is an important part of music, right?

[502] You make the music, you record the music.

[503] Now it needs to be mixed to sound really great.

[504] And then it needs to be mastered.

[505] And so they, like, didn't get that, or they pretended like they didn't get it.

[506] And then they were, like, saying, well, we're going to have to take that out of your fee or whatever.

[507] And so I was like, no, what?

[508] Why?

[509] What's happening?

[510] And then it just kept going back and forth.

[511] of the producers about like yeah you know that's not cool you didn't tell us and then I was like you know what fuck it keep all my money use it for the recording session I'd suggest you keep Matt because he's the guy who really did all the heavy lifting and I'm out of here and I just left because there's no point I'm not in this industry I'm not in the entertainment industry to because I because it's all about money and all about opportunity I just want to have a good time you want to create I want to create and I want to have a good time and if someone starts to make a big deal about something.

[512] So they just didn't understand the process of making music.

[513] That's what they said.

[514] So you think they did and they were being manipulative because they wanted to save money?

[515] I don't want to say either way necessarily, but it was, it felt shady to me. It felt like maybe they didn't know.

[516] Then they figured out that that's true, but then they still stuck with their story.

[517] Reggie Watts, you had a Hollywood moment.

[518] I had a Hollywood moment.

[519] I was like, whoa, this is that thing that oh yeah, this happens or whatever.

[520] And, you know, but you know, the good thing is they kept the dude you know Matt Matt Kilmer did the music I'm dived the music for the next season I don't know how many more seasons they did but at least a second season so that was good I knew he had a gig he was really good at it we know we figured it out but my point is like if it becomes if a process becomes too difficult and everyone's like being super tedious about it and you're talking about making something like a piece of art I'm like you know what let's just simplify it and like cut the thing that we're having a problem with or if it's too much trouble let's just not do it because it's not fucking worth it's like we're here to have a good time yeah you know also you don't need it you know you have a lot of things going on like you can just walk away yeah true but I mean but arguably just to keep it real I mean back in the day when I wasn't really making dough you know and I was like just you know gig to gig making barely making rent or whatever if a project was like too difficult I just had to get out of there it's just not it's not worth it to me like I would rather just like figure out like ah shit how am I going to borrow money to make rent rather then like continue to like go to a rehearsal space where it feels shitty isn't that that's it's so interesting because like if it all comes together whether it's with comedy or with anything else it's some creative venture some sort of thing where you're just trying to make something it comes together and it feels great but then if you're doing that and then you got some situation like you got some executive that stepped in has decided to put their greasy little fingerprints all over everything and manipulate stuff and tweak things and tell you you you you got some executive that stepped in is decided to put their greasy little fingerprints you can and can't do and pull their dick out and you're like oh no not what have we done we've gotten mixed up with commerce and yeah nonsense and non -creative people yes it's the number one problem with television shows when you you have the creative people the artists and the the performers and then they interact with the executives yes who are almost never creative and counter often to creativity 100 % well that's why if you have a producer that's willing to fight for the vision of a piece and you also set the criteria before you get into it that's the important thing it's like but once you get going man people reveal their true selves that that's the problem yeah that's true and even but even in that situation it's like i mean i've been really lucky i've had maybe two experience hollywood experiences like the one i described but like um most of the time it's like if you're a judge of character and it feels good when you come sit down the meeting and they're talking a good game and you know talk to other people who worked with them they're like they're really great.

[521] You can avoid all that shit, you know, or if you work with someone like Netflix who's just like, uh, are you going to make it?

[522] Yeah.

[523] Okay, we'll see when it's made.

[524] Yeah.

[525] That's about it.

[526] That's what they do with stand -up specials.

[527] That's what they did with my special, which was super weird.

[528] It's amazing.

[529] And they were like, okay, cool.

[530] Great job.

[531] It's like, that's how you do it.

[532] That's how you set the precedent.

[533] You just, you just like allow the artist who if you're, if you have a meeting with the artist and they have a very clear vision and they've laid it out and they've got really great team around them, then just let them do the thing.

[534] Yes.

[535] Yeah, they've been great with that.

[536] Netflix is probably the best ever at just letting you do a special.

[537] Yeah, 100%, 100%.

[538] I had a conversation once before I did a Comedy Central special.

[539] And we went over the phone, we had a phone call, and they said, okay, we have a transcript of your act, and we'd like to talk to you about various bits.

[540] And they're like, okay, this we've got to change.

[541] I'm like, what do you mean we got to change?

[542] and they go, well, it would be better if you didn't say it like that.

[543] I go, stop, we're done.

[544] Like, the phone call is like 10 minutes long.

[545] It's supposed to be an hour conversation.

[546] I was like, we can't do this.

[547] No. I go, thank you, thank you, but I'm not going to do it.

[548] And they're like, what?

[549] And I'm like, yeah, I'm not doing it.

[550] We can't do this.

[551] I can't do this special.

[552] There's no way I'm going to go over the transcript on the phone with you of my act.

[553] Because first of all, I'm not even going to say it the way it's on the, the transcript was one set at the comedy store that we recorded and then someone transcribed like I might not do it that way in front of a live audience because I'm kind of free flowing I fuck around I mix things up I I do I'll do this bit third instead of first and that bit fifth and they'll tie together in a different way because I feel it in the moment yeah yeah I mean I mean it's just not there's no way I could do that you know that well first of I don't have a transcript so that's that that's that's that gives me a little bit of an edge they just have to trust that I mean the first time I did the was it the tonight show or no the Fallon show before he had the night show is it just the Jimmy Fallon show what was it I think it was just the Jimmy Fallon yeah it was just the I think it was just Jimmy Fallon was it like late late night or something yeah it was a late night show I believe the Conan O 'Brien spot or something is that correct anyways what maybe it was that I'm sorry you're thinking of Carson Daily no no no no no definitely not Carson Daily it was It was when Fallon, well, I guess he's still in New York, but he was in New York, he was doing the show.

[554] The roots were the band.

[555] And my friend Todd was working as a writer there, and they suggested I do a set there to do a live comedy set.

[556] And the producers, I remember the producers calling me. We had a phone meeting or whatever with my manager.

[557] And they're just like, yeah, do you have any examples of what you're going to do?

[558] And I'm like, no. Like, do you have a transcript?

[559] I'm like, no. And they're like, well, do you, are you, well, we'll get back.

[560] And then they let me do it.

[561] And I remember, like, the producer paging the curtain for me before I was going out.

[562] And he's like, you're not going to do anything, like, embarrassing to us.

[563] And I'm like, no, man, it's fine, you know, whatever.

[564] And they let me go out.

[565] And I knew they were, like, so nervous about it because they didn't have any, you know, there was nothing to verify what I was going to do.

[566] And then I did my set, and it was totally fine, right?

[567] But the thing is, like, I've built in the ability for people that you're either going to, like, want me or not.

[568] Yeah.

[569] It's not like, can you modify?

[570] fire you figure your way through the net yeah i mean i mean if they say like you shouldn't swear i'll do that that's easy yeah that's super easy i don't swear a lot and when i do swear it's just to be absurd yeah but uh but you know it's funny it reminds me of uh you were talking about like kind of people coming in and ruining ideas or whatever it's like my whole thing with like uh you know i started this a little bit of a plug but i started my own app called watts app um and what is it It's like a, think of it as like my own social media account, if you will.

[571] It's just like, essentially like a glorified website, right?

[572] But it's an app.

[573] You go on there, all my videos are on there or videos that I want to be on there.

[574] I have this stupid web series called droneversations, which is me interviewing people, but it's all shot on drones.

[575] And the drones are super loud and you can barely hear the conversation.

[576] How long did you develop this app for?

[577] We developed it for like, so my friend Oliver Thomas Klein, who's a genius.

[578] It probably took maybe like a year to build or less.

[579] It's a conversation, getting an app going.

[580] I was looking to get in an app going a few years back.

[581] Yeah.

[582] And I met with some people and the numbers they were thrown around.

[583] I was like, wait, how much?

[584] Oh, yeah.

[585] I remember being quoted like close to 200 grand.

[586] Oh, I was double that.

[587] Really?

[588] Yeah, it was like half a million bucks.

[589] Oh, yeah.

[590] And that wasn't even sure.

[591] They weren't even sure.

[592] We could get it done with that.

[593] I was like, it's like I was building a house.

[594] Here's the initial estimate.

[595] Yeah.

[596] I mean, I was, you know, I worked with some really great people.

[597] My friend Sasha, who's a brilliant creative advertising person.

[598] She now has her own company, but she sells this product called period pants, which is like period pants for women with like this no bullshit kind of thing like, like whatever.

[599] Women's hygiene can be simplified.

[600] We have a solution for it.

[601] What is the solution?

[602] Right.

[603] It's just called period.

[604] pants they're essentially what do they're underwear that have an absorbent material and it's not a new built into the pants built into the pants so the pant itself is the absorbent so you got a padding in the pants yes you velcro it out and throw it in the wash no well no you wash the whole thing just like underpants so essentially it's just like special underpants they have an absorb absorption layer to it which is fucking brilliant and her average her campaign is brilliant she did impossible the first impossible burger campaign impossible like the whole the whole thing like the whole thing like the all through the image of it and how it was presented.

[605] That was all Sasha Markov.

[606] But she linked me to some people, some designers who were really amazing people.

[607] And I sat down, designed with them and, like, thought about all the stuff.

[608] And they're cool, let me find a, you know, development team, get back to you.

[609] And the budget was like, you know, I was like, I was thinking about like 30 grand, 35 grand.

[610] And they're like, how about 190?

[611] And I'm like, I don't have that money.

[612] That's like a lot of money.

[613] So much money.

[614] So much money.

[615] And then, and then Sasha was like, no, no, no, no. There's got to be someone else.

[616] And then she found a producer who then linked me to Thomas Oliver Klein or Oliver Thomas Klein.

[617] And he gets on the video call with us.

[618] And I'm like, this is what I want to do, 30, 35 grand.

[619] And he's like, oh, yeah, I can do that.

[620] Really?

[621] And I was like, for real?

[622] And he was like, yeah.

[623] And he did it.

[624] 35 grand.

[625] I had my app.

[626] Now we've made additions to it that have cost more, you know, to implement.

[627] but he was completely accurate.

[628] It was one dude and my app was made.

[629] I have a friend who has an app for meditation.

[630] He built this app and then had to redesign the entire thing and start all over again with a new team.

[631] Yeah, that happens.

[632] Yeah, I mean, with mine, it's great because we thought about modularity and expansion from the beginning.

[633] And he's a super smart dude.

[634] He's into crypto and all that stuff, even before crypto was crypto.

[635] Is he into doge coin?

[636] Doge coin?

[637] How do you say it?

[638] Doge.

[639] Does anybody really know how to say it?

[640] it doggie coin it's it's it's doge yeah it's doge coin yeah doge but you know and i was just like you know instagram's great but it's you're at the whim of their aesthetics you know plus you're being tracked and it's all it's really just a shopping and they can just decide to demonetize you or rather de -platform you yeah or just shadow ban you or yeah algorithmize you or whatever yeah and if you develop an application and that application is a hundred percent you yeah then you're free yes that's totally it and that's that's why i did it and i was like okay well i'm going to put drum conversations up there you know and drone conversations i had thundercats let me see dronversations yeah are there any of them online can we watch uh yes i don't i think there might be some online yeah there's there's jack white um feist um thundercat uh go to thunder cat yeah thunder cat fred armison And, yeah, and it's just, it's a stupid idea, but I wanted to do it for so long.

[641] And I was like, you know what?

[642] I'm going to become my own production company and just, I'm going to stop pitching.

[643] I mean, I'll keep pitching, but like, I'm going to, if no one's into an idea, I'm just going to make it.

[644] So this was one of the first.

[645] Put it on the app.

[646] And then I put pictures on there.

[647] I have like, you know, I can send messages to fans.

[648] So I'll be like, hey, you look cute today.

[649] Or whatever, as a notification or whatever.

[650] And it doesn't cost anything.

[651] There's no monetization.

[652] I have a store, so that's a hard thing, right?

[653] I go to a store.

[654] there's a price I pay that price there's no hidden costs everything is transparent oh that's really dope so and such a reggie watts thing to do oh man you have no idea I was like so stoked and then I'm going to do the first well I don't know if it's the first but volumetric live stream because I have live streaming on it too so it's only one I can find okay oh yeah this is me and Jojo let me hear this swimming for like half an hour super hard and I was like I would just be swimming all the time and that'd be a great way to burn You have a Chinese rice farmer's hat on.

[655] I do.

[656] I do notice.

[657] You're just fucking around.

[658] You can do it forever.

[659] People, I mean, old people like to do it.

[660] And you're both wearing masks.

[661] Yeah.

[662] And you're outside.

[663] Well, this was the early days.

[664] Like, feeding myself up for me. Oh, but now she gave up on the mask.

[665] Now it's a chin strap.

[666] Oh, really?

[667] That's what that shit's about?

[668] Yeah.

[669] Do you tend to write about your life experiences?

[670] Yeah, and I'm sick of myself.

[671] Okay.

[672] It's so stupid.

[673] It's so ridiculous.

[674] It's so dumb.

[675] That's the dumbest shit ever.

[676] It's like you've been attacked by bees.

[677] Yeah, it's just constant.

[678] And yeah, there's some great.

[679] The Fred Armistin one's great because...

[680] Where'd you film this?

[681] This is at that, oh, I forget, Elysian.

[682] It's on the edge of Elysian and that sculpture this.

[683] Oh, where is that?

[684] It's on the edge of Elysian.

[685] It's got this beautiful shot of downtown.

[686] And I was super into her single.

[687] And so I wanted to like have the show turn into a music video.

[688] And just suddenly out of nowhere.

[689] and it totally turns into the music video.

[690] And it's just a fun idea to do.

[691] And I wanted a platform that I can do this on.

[692] And so I'm doing this live stream thing with this crew called Fifth Planet, and they do volumetric capture, which is basically a bunch of Microsoft Azure Connect cameras in a circle around you.

[693] And in real time, you can actually manipulate the camera.

[694] Like while I'm doing a video, you can actually manipulate the raw feed.

[695] And so it'll look, I wish there was a way to show you, but there's a, it looks like a, it looks like science fiction, like a hologram, but you're just kind of doing, but I'm doing a bunch of experiments.

[696] And so I'm going to do three of those, three of those as a live stream, some comedy or whatever, in a studio.

[697] So you can watch on, on WhatsApp.

[698] And then later, that will become a full compressed music video with a beautiful sound and everything.

[699] and that will be put on a looking glass portrait holographic display.

[700] So I'm now producing content for the looking glass holographic display, which doesn't require glasses.

[701] You're just looking at this frame, and there are just holograms inside of it.

[702] It looks like a box with things happening inside of it.

[703] You don't need glasses for.

[704] And they're planning on scaling.

[705] So eventually, imagine you're going to have a 50 -inch holographic display using a technology that just it projects like 45 different angles simultaneously, and your brain puts it together as three -dimensional.

[706] Oh, wow.

[707] So it's an incredible technology, and I've known those guys way back since 2010 when they just had like a box with a bunch of LEDs inside of it.

[708] Whatever happened to Magic Leap?

[709] Do you remember those sort of misleading commercials?

[710] They kind of disappeared, didn't they?

[711] They showed you like a ballerina dancing on a man's hand.

[712] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[713] Or on a girl's bed.

[714] Yeah.

[715] Yeah, the AR shit, yeah.

[716] Well, it's like, you know, the great AR future.

[717] You know, there's like this huge promise of like, oh, you'll be able to put on a pair of glasses and blah, blah, blah.

[718] Right.

[719] And that's still being worked on, and Apple will release something like that in the future.

[720] But, you know, it's still pretty limited.

[721] But what's exciting about, like, the looking glass technology is like a bunch of friends can walk into a room.

[722] If that was your monitor, they would see it just happening immediately.

[723] And you don't need any special gear.

[724] It's just happening.

[725] And it looks fucking fantastic.

[726] So I want to produce, I'm going to produce, I'm going to do this, a scene with actors.

[727] It's going to be a really dumb scene with actors.

[728] But because all the camera angles are happening simultaneously, I'm going to take the feed, give it to a traditional editor, and they're going to rotate, push in, create the, you know, the insert shot of someone setting down a cup, the two shot, the master shot, the singles, just from the one performance.

[729] Oh, wow.

[730] So that's my like...

[731] So all the information's there.

[732] Exactly, yes.

[733] Now, the resolution might be kind of crappy, when you push in, you know, to something that's, even though it's 4K60 frames, you're like, someone's sending down a glass, it might look artifacting and stupid, but I don't really care.

[734] It's about, like, can we create a traditional 2D linear edit with volumetric capture, which is the holy grail of filmmaking in the future?

[735] That'll be one of the things we'll use.

[736] But, so I'm excited about that.

[737] So I'm running that experiment, that same live session as well.

[738] Have you fucked around at all with VR movies?

[739] Yes, I made something called Waves with my friend Benjamin Dickinson that had Natalie from Game of Thrones in it.

[740] But yeah, it was just like you put on the VR headset and it's a movie.

[741] It's not interactive.

[742] Who's Natalie from the Game of Thrones?

[743] Which one is true?

[744] I feel terrible that she's going to kill me. You'd know her.

[745] Sarsies.

[746] Oh, there you go.

[747] There she is.

[748] Yeah, there she is.

[749] Yeah.

[750] Reggie Watts is no stranger to pushing the boundaries of both technology and humor.

[751] And he just found a way to do both at once.

[752] Yeah.

[753] Oh, wow.

[754] So this is all in VR.

[755] Dude.

[756] And it's a story.

[757] It's not interactive.

[758] That's why it's when you say movie, that's what it was.

[759] Wow.

[760] And you did all this with a green screen like this?

[761] Yeah.

[762] Wow.

[763] And she was so cool.

[764] She was doing Game of Thrones and she had no, she didn't have to do it at all.

[765] And she was like, sure, let's go for it.

[766] for it wow yeah and I've never even seen this that's crazy yeah so and this was all my design like you know the whole I mean not the design design but the I the concepts were there the designer obviously made it happen but so that was my first thing me and Ben did that and how long ago was this that's a long time ago it was like I want to say 2017 yeah let me say 2007 no I think it was earlier than 2007.

[767] Well, no, actually it was 2017, 2017.

[768] And since then, I've done like social VR and alt space.

[769] I've done Sansar.

[770] You know, and right now, oh, and then there's this company called 3D Live that I just saw an NFT installation on the 59th floor of the U .S. Bank Tower, just this last weekend.

[771] You wore 3D glasses, Florida ceiling display, I don't know, 60 feet across and a wrap around.

[772] 3D glasses, the NFTs are floating holographically.

[773] in the center of the room.

[774] Jesus.

[775] There was like rings that appear from the monitor and they just kind of ring out and the rings are floating in front of you and you can like kind of put your hands in it and it's rotating around.

[776] It was insane and I couldn't believe it and so I'm like well now I need to do a performance with that and now I'm going to do a performance with because the guy who did his name's Young Orbseer he was the guy showing his NFTs in the gallery he used to work or I guess he still works for 3D left but he used to be behind the scenes Now he's, like, made his own installation.

[777] He's NFTs.

[778] Hold, please.

[779] Explain NFTs to people that don't know what you're talking about.

[780] Because I don't know what you're talking about.

[781] I do, but I don't.

[782] I know it's a non -fungible token.

[783] Yes.

[784] I'm not exactly sure what that means.

[785] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[786] Well, it's just not very fungible.

[787] You know, tokens are super fungible.

[788] Got it.

[789] These aren't very fungible.

[790] I don't even know if I could, if I was on Jeopardy.

[791] What is fungible?

[792] Fungible.

[793] I don't even know what fungible mean?

[794] Okay, let's Google it.

[795] It's duplicatable, yeah, like duplicatable, maybe or something.

[796] Let's Google it.

[797] Yeah, Google it.

[798] What is the, what is the, what is the, what is the, jujugal?

[799] Go, so they'll give it the truth.

[800] Yeah, yeah, yeah, give it the truth.

[801] Okay, here it goes.

[802] It's an economic term.

[803] Oh, of goods connected for without an individual specimen being specified, able to replace or be replaced by another identical item, mutually interchangeable.

[804] It is by no means the world's only fungible commodity.

[805] Okay, I know it.

[806] I understand it even less now.

[807] Yeah, I have heard fungible, like, used in economics.

[808] But, yeah.

[809] So, but you can't replicate.

[810] So, yeah, non -fungible.

[811] So basically, it's like, I have, I've made a little video of me, or, yeah, I've made a video of me, a 30 -second video of me, like, running around, you know, a park or something like that.

[812] If I want to make that non -fungible, then I meant it.

[813] And by minting, you use a minting service, like Foundation or Zora, there's many others.

[814] And get a crypto wallet.

[815] and you get the crypto wallet set up, you put money in it, it's converted into the crypto of your choice.

[816] So let's say ETH, which is a very popular, Ethereum.

[817] ETH is a very popular crypto.

[818] Do you know about that?

[819] Yeah, ETH.

[820] Fucking nerds.

[821] Actually, it's...

[822] But yeah, so these are some NFTs that we created.

[823] So see that one on the very top left?

[824] Yeah.

[825] That's the looking glass holographic display.

[826] Oh, wow.

[827] And so that device, we made an NFT, me and my friend Panther Modern, his name is Brady Keen.

[828] Check out his music.

[829] It's fucking disgusting.

[830] So he made the 3D motion graphics and the TVs and designed all of that stuff with the wires.

[831] We shot a bunch of video of me doing the thing.

[832] He inserted them on the TV screens.

[833] And then we formatted it.

[834] It's on a loop.

[835] It's got music with it.

[836] And that is then put into this device.

[837] And so I'm trying to push this frame.

[838] called fidgetal, the convergence of physical and digital media.

[839] So that's like a perfect representation because the NFT is sold with the device.

[840] So when you bid on it and you know, you win it or whatever, that device is sent to you.

[841] There's laser etching on the back that says the name of the piece, who made it and so forth.

[842] But technically, it's that unit with the hologram.

[843] So it's the world's first holographic NFT, which was bought by Lee, what's the name, Charlie Lee, Charlie Lee who created light coin, another cryptocurrency.

[844] He bought it for almost nothing.

[845] And so he now has the physical unit that has the hologram in it, and you could ostensibly just put it on a shelf and call it good, or you can use the display to upload more holographic stuff if you want to.

[846] So that was the first holographic NFT.

[847] Those other videos that you saw cycling were just standard.

[848] Here's a video.

[849] We've made it in an NFT.

[850] But then someone can't replicate that video?

[851] They hold the license to it.

[852] Right.

[853] But if you just replicate it and have it on your laptop, how's someone going to stop you?

[854] I mean, I guess if you're trying to make money from it, then you couldn't.

[855] Yeah, something like that.

[856] You wouldn't be able to make money off of it.

[857] You wouldn't be able to make money off of it.

[858] I mean, technically you could screenshot it.

[859] You could screen capture it.

[860] You know, if it's a video.

[861] In this case, it's a hologram.

[862] So you would have to just, you'd have to have a looking glass device and then you'd have to get the file in order to see it, which it is available.

[863] But it's stunning when you hear guys like Beeple, like Beeple sold an NFT for what, 59, 69 million.

[864] He's got a little more with his package, though.

[865] You get a hair sample.

[866] Oh, yeah.

[867] You get his own hair?

[868] Is that his pubs?

[869] It could be.

[870] I hope so.

[871] He's got very long, luscious pubes.

[872] So what do you get?

[873] Like he sends a whole package when you get his NFT.

[874] Okay.

[875] So you get an image?

[876] This is, I think this is like an iPad with the image on it.

[877] The one that sold for a bunch, I believe, was all of them together.

[878] Yeah, all of them.

[879] Yeah.

[880] All of them.

[881] For a year.

[882] It's like 5 ,000 pieces.

[883] Yeah.

[884] Someone bought it for $69 million in.

[885] What, Bitcoin or what?

[886] Yeah, I think Eith.

[887] They have to buy the auction is an Eth.

[888] So Christie's, you know, it's like it was auctioned by Christie's.

[889] It was like Eith was, I think it was an Eith.

[890] And then how would you go about being actually rich with this?

[891] How does people go from this to being a baller?

[892] Oh, well, I mean, well, you know, they bid, whoever bids, you know, just like a regular auction.

[893] And then they bid using crypto, and the crypto's transferred before they transfer the file to the...

[894] So the $69 million in Eth, he could actually put into a...

[895] his account.

[896] And now he has 69 actual million dollars.

[897] Yeah, you just convert it.

[898] And he can get a Ferrari.

[899] Yeah, you could get one Ferrari for 69 million.

[900] The thing with eth though, with some of these contracts, like I don't know specifically which one is I heard him mention this.

[901] He has a, it's built into the contract.

[902] So if the person who bought it for 69 million sells it for 100 million, 10 % of that goes back to his wallet.

[903] So yeah, that's right.

[904] Yeah.

[905] Yeah, you set the resale.

[906] So like on ours, we did 15%, which is the average.

[907] Are you a, of the controversy surrounding the male Mona Lisa.

[908] Do you know the story about this?

[909] The Mala Lisa?

[910] It's the most expensive painting ever sold.

[911] It was sold for $400 million to the bin Salam.

[912] What is his name?

[913] Mohammed bin Salam.

[914] Am I seen his name right?

[915] The head of Saudi Arabia?

[916] MBS.

[917] What is his actual name though?

[918] I'm sorry.

[919] I think you were close.

[920] I fucked it up.

[921] It's probably Brian Saunders.

[922] Mohamed bin Salaman.

[923] No, close.

[924] Salman, yeah.

[925] Okay, the MBS, the head of Saudi Arabia, bought it for $450 million.

[926] This is it.

[927] And the crazy thing is someone bought it at one point in time in the past.

[928] I want to say for $1 ,500.

[929] And they didn't realize that it may or may not be, because this is where it gets controversial, may or may not be the work of Leonardo da Vinci.

[930] So it was restored.

[931] So do the history of this, the controversy and the history of it.

[932] Yeah, there's a crazy history to it where someone bought it for an extremely low amount and then a Russian oligarch bought it for over $100 million.

[933] See, $1 ,175 at an attic sale in New Orleans for a dirty painting that he hadn't even seen.

[934] After a painstaking restoration, I think took a decade, some began whispering that it might be by the master himself.

[935] So an art dealer in 2005 paid $1 ,175 for it.

[936] So 16 years ago, someone paid $1 ,175 for the most expensive painting ever sold.

[937] So then this guy, go down, scroll down?

[938] I can't get this article.

[939] Oh, it's one of them.

[940] Oh, that's one of them.

[941] There's a bunch of other articles that are free that you could read about it, but it's a crazy story.

[942] So this person, I believe, started working on it in 2005, started the restoration.

[943] And then by the time, I think it was around 2015, they started realizing like, holy shit.

[944] Because I guess sometimes in the past, someone would take a great painting and they would paint over it.

[945] Yes, I've heard of this.

[946] Which is crazy.

[947] Yes.

[948] And so then there's this insanely painstaking restoration project where you're removing layer upon layer upon layer.

[949] What?

[950] $60.

[951] This was sold for in 1958.

[952] $60.

[953] So it gets even crazier.

[954] Yeah.

[955] This was an article from 2017 where it was on auction for even less than it was just sold for it.

[956] Yeah.

[957] So it was on auction for $100 million then, and that's when it was bought by the Russian oligarch before MBS bought it.

[958] So it was the controversy that the person who arrived.

[959] originally bought it should get a kickback because no know the value no here's the controversy the controversy is it may not be by Leonardo da Vinci at all I see and or it might be partly by da Vinci and so Google this there's a scan of the image and I don't understand the technology involved in the scan but the scan apparently revealed that there's more than one era of painting or there's more than one application of painting meaning that more than one person worked on it at more than one time.

[960] Like an exquisite corpse.

[961] Hidden drawing.

[962] So this might not.

[963] No, no, this doesn't reveal it.

[964] This is not it.

[965] It's about, there's a digital scan of that painting.

[966] What is it called again?

[967] It said male Mona Lisa.

[968] I don't know.

[969] There's another name for it.

[970] There's a name for that painting.

[971] I forget what it is.

[972] Salvatore.

[973] Mundi.

[974] Salvatore Mundi.

[975] So when they did this scan, there's something about the hands and the way the paint is done on that in relation to the rest of it.

[976] But it's like, you know, they're talking about, like, fucking microns.

[977] They're measuring depth and layers and age and all sorts of different shit.

[978] But, well, you're dealing with $450 million for a fucking painting.

[979] Jesus.

[980] So it gets down to this dispute.

[981] There's a long page about it.

[982] Okay, see if you could see the images, because there's images of the analysis.

[983] Have you scroll down?

[984] It's a beautiful painting.

[985] Yeah, it is very beautiful.

[986] Oh, there we are.

[987] There's images.

[988] Is that what it used to look like on the right?

[989] I think that's what it used to look like.

[990] And then they slowly but surely restored it to the point where it's at now.

[991] Is that what it looked like?

[992] There's versions of it too.

[993] People would, yeah, there's more than one version of it.

[994] So people would buy paintings like, you know, a hundred years ago, 500 years ago, and just fucking start scribbling on it.

[995] Look at that detail.

[996] Paint over it.

[997] Yeah.

[998] So they had to go over these things to restore them.

[999] Like insanely painstaking.

[1000] Like I said, it took.

[1001] like 10 years to to restore this i see i see they're doing like these this is a what do you call a cross -section yeah yeah yeah wild shit yeah because they have to find like what is the original paint color so they have to find the original layer exactly so that's what it used to look like imagine that and then they bring it from that to what you see now like look at that crazy so but what does that mean then do they paint over it like how do they do that does someone paint over the old paint and make it look better is that better like isn't it better to be scratchy and all fucked up and the original painting i know i know it's yeah i guess it just depends on what you want right i mean but that's the problem with this painting so after all that after buying it for 450 million dollars it's currently in controversial dispute as to whether or not it's actually the work of leonardo da Vinci so they he they wanted him to uh donate it to the louvre in paris yeah But they were like, we're not going to put it next to the Mona Lisa.

[1002] He wanted it to be next to the Mona Lisa as the male Mona Lisa, the male Mona Lisa.

[1003] And they're like, uh -uh.

[1004] They're like, we don't, we're not going to give this the red stamp.

[1005] We don't even know if this is real.

[1006] Wow.

[1007] Yeah, it's just, oh, man, could you imagine that feeling of being rejected like that?

[1008] Well, imagine you're that guy.

[1009] You're that guy.

[1010] I mean, this is the guy that allegedly killed Jamal Khashoggi.

[1011] Yeah, yeah.

[1012] For criticizing his regime.

[1013] Yes.

[1014] And have you ever seen that movie The Dissident, which is an incredible movie.

[1015] But Brian Fogel, the details all the events that took place.

[1016] Oh, no, I haven't seen that.

[1017] Crazy.

[1018] But so he's the one that's in possession of this painting.

[1019] And now it's currently on his yacht.

[1020] So this $450 million painting is on his yacht.

[1021] And so art fanatics are like, you can't have a painting on a yacht.

[1022] Like that's four.

[1023] Well, not just that.

[1024] the climate like to have these right the sea water yes to have these paintings I mean maybe you only had it for a day or maybe he only had it like to tell everybody he had it there yeah he actually has it in a climate control room I imagine he would I mean come on I don't know me he's bawling out of his mind yeah he's buying 450 million million dollar paintings he might be peeing on it right now but that's nothing that's nothing might do whatever he wants you do whatever he wants if you've got the kind of money for a 450 million dollar painting but it might not be it might not be legit And apparently, so I go down a rabbit hole, apparently there is a massive market for illegitimate paintings, and people get robbed all the time.

[1025] And there was, in fact, a guy who was a master.

[1026] There's a, I believe there's a documentary about him.

[1027] There's a big one on Netflix about this right now.

[1028] I thought that's what you're getting.

[1029] Oh, like the master forgers?

[1030] Well, there was a guy who was, that was his trade.

[1031] What he would do was make fake Picasso's.

[1032] So he would make his own work, but in the style of Picasso, and they would claim that this was a lost Picasso.

[1033] Wow.

[1034] And he sold these things for millions, millions of dollars.

[1035] This is the Netflix one.

[1036] This lady got, they found she was selling fake shit for a long time.

[1037] Oh, okay.

[1038] Just a lot of people off.

[1039] I've not seen that one.

[1040] But there's a guy who did time, and he got released eventually, and he did time for.

[1041] creating fake masterpieces and it's really crazy because the guy was insanely talented right his art was magnificent right right right but it wasn't michael angelo but he conned people yeah yeah i mean the art was great but he conned people but it was it's weird it's like it's so my uncle said this to me once this is really a funny thing because when i was a kid i would pretend i brush my teeth right but i i really didn't brush my teeth my uncle my uncle vinny who's a really interesting guys, very creative guys, an artist.

[1042] And he said, it's funny because I used to do the same thing.

[1043] But once, eventually I realized, I put so much effort into pretending that I brushed my teeth that I could have just brushed my teeth with that same amount of effort.

[1044] And I wouldn't have to pretend.

[1045] And I thought about it.

[1046] I'm like, God damn, he's smart.

[1047] Oh, man. That's a really cool thing to say to a five year old.

[1048] It's like a good reverse.

[1049] My uncle was, my uncle Vinny's cool was fuck he's he was always like the cool uncle like that you know everybody wished they had like he drove an mg and he was an artist and you know photographer man those types of people i mean they they inspire me you know actually this funny my um kind of related but i was just thinking about inspirational artists i my friend victoria who had met a while ago like loosely she invited me to that nfti gallery thing and she pulled me aside it was like late at night it was like on a Friday last Friday and she was like I missed I went to dinner and I missed the first night of the showing and I felt really bad and I was like can you do you have any videos can you send me to you know I was trying to like make up for it or whatever and she's like no I don't have any of that shit and then radio silence I'm playing video games and then uh she texts me she's like oh coming over to frankie's house and I'm like who's Frankie's like oh he created I love comedy or I heart comedy and I was like oh okay cool I'll check it out of quirky house didn't want to go at first then I went show up she's uh she's a cybernetic artist she's like a cyber artist and she had she sold an nfts for 85 grand actually uh based off of her a show that she did in paris but she's uh her left lower leg below the the knee is amputated and she has like these crazy prosthesis um that do all kinds of crazy things one that's just a cone or whatever and she always wears these insane awesome outfits and so she's at the party and it's all artists like one of the girls from pussy riot it's uh oh wow this amazing fashion designer that like dresses Victoria and um so she pulls me aside and she's like listen and she's from she she was born in Russia grew up partially in Latvia and then uh London until about I don't know her mid teens and then started working with MIT at the MIT experimental lab I forget the name of the official name of it and so she's had this crazy journey but she pulls me aside and she goes listen I know that you didn't want to come initially but um you come from I don't know how she, she just kind of distilled this.

[1050] She goes, you come from the underground, and it's really important for you to be in contact with counterculture, because that's where you come from.

[1051] And even though you've infiltrated into mainstream, you have a mainstream accent, I know it's very important for you to maintain your roots.

[1052] You have a mainstream accent, she said?

[1053] No, no, no, she said, or I've accessed the mainstream or whatever.

[1054] And I was like, who is this person?

[1055] This is insane.

[1056] Because I've always kind of associated myself most with Anubis, you know, because like Anubis was like the watcher, the protector of the underworld.

[1057] Right.

[1058] So Anubis had access to the world of the living and the world of the dead, or Karan or Hades or Orishigal, whoever you want to call.

[1059] But, and her saying that just blew my mind because I'm like, yeah, I love it.

[1060] I love going into the darkest spaces and then coming out and finding the, the moment.

[1061] amazing things that...

[1062] And hanging out with James Corden.

[1063] And hanging out with James Corden.

[1064] And then hanging out with James Corden talking to asking a question of Pete Buttigieg.

[1065] You know what I mean?

[1066] Yeah.

[1067] Like it's awesome that I can like modulate between these two different worlds.

[1068] Right.

[1069] And at this party it was just filled with people who have like had these intense lives, you know, that like came from Russia or came from Bosnia or came from Africa or whatever and that had to overcome all these obstacles.

[1070] But now they're doing well and now this NFT thing happens and now they're making money to fuel their more of their art it's an interesting it was an interesting art is so it's so fascinating this this thing that people do where they create something and then other people get feelings off staring or listening or watching or whatever it is with their creation like you're you're putting something you're putting your there's an essence of your interpretation of the world and you're putting it into something and then somebody gets that thing and they go oh wow yeah yeah oh that's fucking cool man yeah which is why like modern art at like lackma is so fucking offensive when you go to you see like a plexiglass box on the ground like that's the piece you like fuck you yeah yeah totally hey fuck you yeah i know well that's the thing right it's like it's so context based right so if you would have seen that piece maybe when it was introduced and you understood the context of it it is supposed to say fuck you but no it's not it's a fucking hack well that's what i mean sometimes artists to do that on purpose because they're just saying fuck you because they're like you just bought you just you just bought it guys as long as you do another art that's real of course like i need to see that you i need to see that you didn't just find a loophole no i i i completely agree i can wait well check out check out victoria modesta's uh nfti that she sold it'll blow you away okay that is like the for real deal like she's an incredible artist did you find the guy there is a guy that is famous like see like a rep man arrested for fraudulent paintings no that's what you wouldn't say creating fraudulent masterpieces oh there you because it's a famous guy because his work original fake they had they had sold his stuff in auctions and and when you see his work you're like holy shit like it's amazing but you know he had said like these are lost bus gates or how do you say his name basquiat these are lost warhols why didn't he just like say that like he's doing a conceptual series of like you know extended works of of masters because he's a crook i mean but would have been so much more fun than that i mean like why do the crook angle it's like you still could have made a shit ton of money well that's not as much i agree for sure but i like the fact that does a guy like that out there there's something about it that's so strange because he's he's clearly a brilliant artist When you look at the guy's actual work, but he's also clearly a scumbag.

[1071] So it's, I just, there's something about folly, about human folly, like that kind of, I like it.

[1072] I like that they're, I like it's a huge, that people do things like that.

[1073] That like, oh, you're really into spending $25 million on a painting.

[1074] Guess what I have.

[1075] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1076] Let me help you out.

[1077] Yeah, let me help.

[1078] Let me alleviate you of your, because there are some of these people that just accumulate massive amounts of money.

[1079] then they get really into having these prestigious works of art, whether or not they actually understand.

[1080] I'm like, is this the guy?

[1081] Inside the $80 million scandal that rocked the art world, no, I think that's the same one that you were, isn't it?

[1082] Maybe that's a documentary, man. Is it?

[1083] That's a different dude.

[1084] Is that it?

[1085] Yeah, that is him.

[1086] I'm just a guy.

[1087] Yeah.

[1088] Yep.

[1089] Yeah.

[1090] Oh, wow.

[1091] Well, anyway.

[1092] I mean, That's insane.

[1093] You know, they do that with wine, too.

[1094] Do they?

[1095] There's an incredible documentary called Sour Grapes.

[1096] Yeah, okay, yeah.

[1097] Yeah, this is it.

[1098] Wow.

[1099] And there's more than one of these guys, by the way.

[1100] There's more than one of these guys that creates fake art. Because, like, if you're, like, a fucking, if you're newly rich, you know, like, you're some dude who runs a tech company and all of a sudden, like, you know, you go to an IPO and you sell and you're worth a billion dollars now.

[1101] You're like, what?

[1102] Yes.

[1103] And then you're like, I want a fucking cool painting.

[1104] Yeah.

[1105] And you don't know jack shit about art. And next thing you know, you get connected to some other shady guy that you buy ecstasy from.

[1106] And he knows a guy who has a Pollock for sale.

[1107] Oh, my God.

[1108] Yeah.

[1109] Oh, by the way, the spirit molecule guys.

[1110] Right?

[1111] You know those dudes.

[1112] Sure.

[1113] I just met with them just before.

[1114] Oh, no kidding.

[1115] Yeah.

[1116] Mitch.

[1117] Yeah.

[1118] Yeah.

[1119] And the other guy.

[1120] Who was the other guy?

[1121] Oh.

[1122] Isn't that crazy?

[1123] That is crazy.

[1124] Yeah, so they want me to narrate the next one.

[1125] Oh, nice.

[1126] So I thought that was so bizarre that I'm meeting them before you.

[1127] Because I didn't put together that you were the original guy.

[1128] So I was like, how weird is that?

[1129] I was the Rod Sterling of the DMT movie.

[1130] Yes, yes.

[1131] I can't wait to see it.

[1132] I'm so excited to see it.

[1133] But, yeah, I thought that was pretty funny.

[1134] But yeah, they were talking about DMT, but I was talking about ketamine.

[1135] I've been doing ketamine and experimenting with ketamine lately, which has been so insane.

[1136] I mean, such an insane.

[1137] I don't know if you've ever experienced it.

[1138] No, I have not.

[1139] It's a dissociative.

[1140] So, I mean, when we were teenagers growing up in Montana, we didn't have access to any drugs, basically.

[1141] So we were doing robitussin, which had dextramothin in it, which is also a dissociative.

[1142] And it's, and it can be very, very, very powerful.

[1143] I'm not condoning doing that.

[1144] But as, but as kids in the 80s, like, that's, you know, we were listening about.

[1145] house and doing robot testing.

[1146] And, but, yeah, so ketamine is interesting because a lot of friends are, like, they're doing ketamine therapy, they're doing, blah, blah, blah.

[1147] But ketamine, I don't know, it was just crazy.

[1148] We were talking about ketamine and DMT, and there's like a crossover point.

[1149] You know who is really into ketamine?

[1150] John Lilly.

[1151] John Lilly is the guy who created the isolation tank.

[1152] He's also a pioneer in interspecies communication.

[1153] He was working on communicating with dolphins.

[1154] Dolphins in Hawaii.

[1155] Yeah, and the experience.

[1156] was defunded because the woman who was running the experiment was jerking off the dolphin Oh my god.

[1157] You know that story?

[1158] I don't remember that conclusion This is what happened the dolphins would get horny and they were distracted all the time.

[1159] They wouldn't concentrate.

[1160] So they would they just want to fuck.

[1161] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1162] So she would masturbate the dolphins so that the dolphins would relax and then they could get some work done and then they would try to communicate with the dolphins.

[1163] Yes.

[1164] The She was trying to get the dolphins to speak, but the problem is...

[1165] Right, it was legitimate.

[1166] Yes.

[1167] She's a, well, listen, so is coming.

[1168] Yeah, of course.

[1169] It's a part of biology.

[1170] It's natural.

[1171] It's like, we're just so fucked up and puritanical and feel with shame.

[1172] We think there's something wrong with masturbating a dolphin in order to get it to comply.

[1173] But meanwhile, you know what's really wrong?

[1174] How about slavery of dolphins?

[1175] Yes.

[1176] You know, you're forcing this fucking this intelligent animal that may or may not be as smart as people into some weird, subservient existence where you've got it in a pond.

[1177] Yes.

[1178] It's crazy.

[1179] Yeah, 100%.

[1180] That is way crazier than jerking off the dolphin.

[1181] The fact that that is where we get outraged, we get outraged that she's touching the dolphin's penis.

[1182] Not that she's made it a slave.

[1183] Yes, I know.

[1184] In order to try to get it to talk.

[1185] It's so crazy to me. I know, I know.

[1186] And I'm sure it was the optics of it.

[1187] Like once that got out there, like, well, we can't.

[1188] Exactly.

[1189] I'm pretty sure this was all in the 60s.

[1190] Right, which is even, yeah, right.

[1191] So Lily developed the sensory deprivation tank.

[1192] So he was trying to figure out a way to separate the human body and all of the sensory input from consciousness.

[1193] Altered states.

[1194] Yes, that is exactly what Altered States is based on.

[1195] It's based on Lilly.

[1196] Because Lily was doing stuff that was so crazy.

[1197] And he was taking all these insane psychedelic drugs.

[1198] They were like, they literally used him as the inspiration for altered states.

[1199] That's why if you go to watch Altered States and what's his name, William Hurt?

[1200] I think that's the name.

[1201] Yeah.

[1202] When William Hurt in the beginning is in the early developmental stages of Lily's tank, which was essentially regular water, and he had a scuba helmet on.

[1203] Oh, that's right.

[1204] And then the water is heated to the same temperatures of skin, and there's all these tubes that provide him oxygen.

[1205] He's standing upright.

[1206] Eventually, they turn it into this thing where he's lying in it, which is like a regular sensory deprivation tank.

[1207] But all of that is created by Lily.

[1208] Lily wrote a bunch of books on it, like the center of the cyclone, the deep self.

[1209] And he even, one of his books, I forget which one, you can actually buy, and there's design instructions for building your own sensory deprivation tank with like pond liners and waterbed heaters and the whole deal.

[1210] But Lily used to take intramuscular ketamine.

[1211] So he would just blast himself with ketamine and lie down there and fucking blow.

[1212] Oh, my God.

[1213] And that was his thing.

[1214] I mean, you know, I don't know, I took an accident, not accidental, but like a very large dose, which, I don't know, put me in full ego death.

[1215] And all I can say is that it put me into what I like to call the paradoxical state, which is you, there's nothing to compare yourself to anything anymore.

[1216] So there is no you.

[1217] And so you're just experiencing, not experiencing simultaneously, whatever.

[1218] And it's very fractal.

[1219] Everything is fractal.

[1220] It's like anything that you try to cling on to mentally, you think you know what it is, and then it just is not that anymore.

[1221] So your mind has to just surrender completely to this constant fractal onslaught.

[1222] And what was interesting about that is that it felt like, to me in my mind, it's like, oh, this is the source of reality.

[1223] This is like if you're getting close to the source of how reality is generated and perceived, essentially that's as close as you can get to being aware of reality itself in essence.

[1224] And that feeling, I mean, I didn't know where it was.

[1225] You know, it's like you're nowhere.

[1226] And to take that and then put that in a sensory deprivation tank, I mean, that's insane.

[1227] I mean, that's like I don't know what that would do because I already felt like I was just gone anyways.

[1228] Yeah.

[1229] I didn't know what position my body was.

[1230] I know what a body was.

[1231] I wasn't in my room.

[1232] My eyes were open and I could see nothing that was familiar at all.

[1233] And I didn't know what familiar was.

[1234] But to mix those things, I don't know, it's a very, it's a very interesting feeling because it's also very weirdly pragmatic on lower doses.

[1235] It's pragmatic.

[1236] Like, let's say you have a lot of trauma going on.

[1237] That's why they're using it for therapy.

[1238] You can actually sign up and do legal therapy with intramuscular injections of ketamine.

[1239] Whitney's doing, Whitney Cummings doing it with a mister, a nasal mister.

[1240] Oh, okay.

[1241] Oh, a Mr. Yeah.

[1242] I mean, it's a very, it's very interesting.

[1243] A lot of my friends, I don't know, I've had like some crazy breakthroughs on it.

[1244] Because it's like, you know, I have hangups.

[1245] We all have hangups, right?

[1246] It's like all this programming.

[1247] I grew up Catholic.

[1248] So I've got like a lot of, you know, kind of things that I'm like, and if I reveal that, you know, everyone's going to know that I'm a blah, blah, blah, or whatever.

[1249] And when you're on ketamine, it's like, that thing comes up, especially when you're more conscious like functional level at ketamine it comes up and you're like oh it's just this and then you tell your friend and they're like oh yeah I wouldn't worry about that and you're like okay cool and then you're moving on it's like the most it allows you to get past things yeah it's like it's empathic so if you're doing it with someone you feel like you're sharing an experience together but then it's also kind of slightly like your aliens piloting yourself this body is just like it's just a robot to get you through this world and you're just just like piloting it, you know, when you get up to get something, it's like, I'm going to get water now.

[1250] Excellent idea.

[1251] Would you like some?

[1252] I would like some.

[1253] Here's water.

[1254] Thank you very much.

[1255] Consciousness is crazy.

[1256] You know, it's the weirdest high.

[1257] And then like, are you scared of your relationship right now?

[1258] Yes, I am scared that they don't understand me. Well, that's too bad.

[1259] You know what?

[1260] I don't, I can't control that.

[1261] You know, like these revelations happen.

[1262] I'm not saying it's a fix -all, everything.

[1263] Do you remember the revelations?

[1264] Yeah, very much.

[1265] So it's different than DMT and that the memories are more easily accessible?

[1266] They are.

[1267] I mean, not everything, but definitely there's there's things that I remember about it.

[1268] And it definitely, I think, helps to cause, I don't know if it's, you know, I'm not a scientist, but it's not like neural pathways, but it definitely alters the way you approach and think about the things that you're having issues with.

[1269] Neil Brennan was the first person that told me he did it therapeutically.

[1270] He went to a doctor and he was getting IV ketamine and he was tripping balls.

[1271] And like I remember him telling me in the hallway of the comedy store and you know Neil yes Neil's intense guy it's like and I'm sitting there doing this and I'm like hey I'm really fucking high like this is crazy like this is like a full on psychedelic trip in the doctor's office oh my gosh which is extra trippy extra trip because you're like this is a doctor's office and then you're all so you're in interdimensional traveling yes yeah that's yeah DMT I've been too chicken to do the second hit so really yeah twice i tried it and i i because you know you go zero to peaking on acid in three seconds the first hit right and then you're supposed to take another hit you're supposed to go three yeah i know but but my friend i always found it's easy after the first hit you know it's also the smoke it's so gross the grossest shit so i was like oh i'm breathing in plastic and then like now i'm really high now i'm supposed to breathe in more plastic i just i don't know i couldn't do it but the ketamine for whatever reason the dose that I took it took me to that it wasn't planning on it necessarily I knew it was gonna be I was gonna get high but I didn't know I was gonna go that high that was intramuscular as well no that I had to snort it unfortunately I don't like snorty I don't like snorty feeling I don't snort anything that was I've never snorted a drug yeah it's the only time I don't think so I think it's there's that Ibegan no I've never snowed a drug what's the one that they yeah they blow it into your nostrils Yeah, it's a snuff, right?

[1272] They blow it up your nose.

[1273] Yeah, which, you know, I don't know.

[1274] It just seems like dirty.

[1275] I would rather just, I think what I'm going to try to do is I'm going to try to see if I can get involved in some kind of a study or whatever.

[1276] I think I'm on my last leg of it.

[1277] It was just like a nice, like, a little experimental period over, like, a couple months.

[1278] But I think I learned a lot, and it reminded me a lot of robitussin, which when we were on, you know, I remember peeking on robotussin.

[1279] And then my friend going, I have a little bit of weed.

[1280] You have some weed?

[1281] Let's try some.

[1282] And then we smoke some weed and we just fucking left.

[1283] I know that it's not supposed to be addictive and it's not supposed to be dangerous.

[1284] But I've heard of people getting addicted to it and wind up going into rehab.

[1285] And I'm pretty sure I knew a guy who died from it.

[1286] There was a fighter who was really into ketamine.

[1287] And I remember because a friend of mine went to visit him in rehab.

[1288] Yeah.

[1289] And he actually wound up dying.

[1290] Well, it does elevate your heart rate.

[1291] Oh.

[1292] So if you have some kind of a heart condition or something like that and you take a lot of it and you're not giving yourself a break or whatever, yeah.

[1293] So if you just keep hammering it all the time.

[1294] If you keep hammering it, you're just going to be spiking your heart rate all the time.

[1295] I know that.

[1296] I mean, there'll be doctors out there.

[1297] They'll be like, well, actually.

[1298] But I, you know, I just know that.

[1299] And then also liver toxicity as well.

[1300] Oh.

[1301] And this is like chronic use, right?

[1302] Right.

[1303] But it doesn't have, it's not, it's definitely not the type of high where you're like, I can't wait to do that again.

[1304] And like after, definitely there's like, if you take a small amount of it and you're like, oh, I'm feeling pretty good.

[1305] Do you want to take a little bit more or like I'm in Berlin?

[1306] You know, that was like one of the first times I did it.

[1307] It's like you're in Berlin in a club and you go to a dirty stall bathroom with five people and someone pulls out a key and I'm like, well, I guess this is how you do drugs.

[1308] You know, whatever.

[1309] When in Rome, but like they just do tiny bumps of it and they re up like every 30 minutes or something like that.

[1310] And I did that a few times.

[1311] I'm like, I kind of get it, but to me it's a waste of the opportunity to go.

[1312] Deep.

[1313] Yeah, to go, because for me, it's like if I'm doing anything, even if I'm doing an edible or if I'm smoking weed or whatever it is, those are the only things I do.

[1314] It's like I do weed and recently occasionally academy, but mostly just weed.

[1315] I don't drink or anything.

[1316] So if I'm going to do something, I'm looking at it as an experiment.

[1317] This is an opportunity to learn something about myself and to see what I can notice and what I can bring back from it.

[1318] That's the thing is you really can learn something.

[1319] And it sounds so trite, right?

[1320] It sounds.

[1321] so cliche like yeah I'm doing psychedelic drugs to learn about myself man yes you know doesn't it sounds fake so it sounds kind of fake doesn't it it does but you can you really can but you can't always no and you got to really go into it with the intention of actually trying to learn something and then be open -minded about it you try to yeah try to bring something back well it's vulnerability you know and I think that's the biggest thing for me that I notice you know it's just you open up and and suddenly you're hanging with your friend, then you're seeing them in a way that you've never seen them before, and this release of like compassionate understanding and you're, I mean, for me, my favorite part is when it's silly.

[1322] To me, silliness is like the greatest most enlightened state that you can do it.

[1323] Right, yeah.

[1324] Where it's just like, that's like, oh, because, you know, like we're high in an acid and see like a bush and it looks like a Muppet, you know, or whatever, and you're just like, look, it's a Muppet, and they're like, oh my God, it is a Muppet?

[1325] Is it a Muppet?

[1326] What is it?

[1327] I don't know.

[1328] Let's check it out.

[1329] You know, like adventure goofy silliness.

[1330] That to me is like such a load off because you're like with all these other people you're being, because silliness being silly in front of people and with people is very vulnerable.

[1331] People don't necessarily think of it that way, but it is being very vulnerable.

[1332] Oh yeah, for sure.

[1333] And vulnerability is that's why I like doing comedy.

[1334] It's like, comedy is like, here you are on stage.

[1335] It's one of the only art forms.

[1336] Or you go up on stage and if it's just you stand up, you're on stage.

[1337] That's all it is.

[1338] It's just a human saying some words that are setting up expectations and subverting the expectation and causing a momentary, zoomed out, joyous, paradoxical laughing state.

[1339] Yeah.

[1340] And that's it.

[1341] That's it.

[1342] And I love it.

[1343] Yeah, it's amazing.

[1344] And it actually changes the state of mind of the people that are viewing it.

[1345] It's an art form that changes your state.

[1346] Yes, 100%.

[1347] And it elicit it's a response.

[1348] It's one of the only art forms where it requires a response.

[1349] That's true.

[1350] Yeah.

[1351] It actually does.

[1352] Otherwise, it's not going well.

[1353] Right.

[1354] Or it is going well until it's not going, or whatever, you know.

[1355] Yeah, 100%.

[1356] Yeah, because music is different.

[1357] Like, someone's playing a beat, people are like, you know.

[1358] But a comedian gets up on stage and says, so I was out the other day and I was talking that, you know, so and so and no laughter.

[1359] And they're like, ah, fuck.

[1360] And it's the marked contrast when you try something that's not funny.

[1361] Like, every now and then you have a thought, and you're like, let me just see if this one comes out good.

[1362] And it comes out of your mouth and it's like, uh, that, blah, blah.

[1363] There's nothing there.

[1364] And you're like, all right, it just wasn't there.

[1365] I thought there was something there.

[1366] I swung.

[1367] I know.

[1368] But it's great, too, when the comedian comments on it, right?

[1369] It's like, you know, I mean, it's like, you know, I do a lot of weirdo comedy shows, you know, like all comedy shows or whatever, like Natasha Lagerro and those kinds of people.

[1370] And it's just, I love it when they're like going and they're like, no, not so much.

[1371] Okay, cool.

[1372] Moving on.

[1373] You know, like, and you're like, okay, we're all in it together.

[1374] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1375] Well, it's, you know, the recognition that what you're doing is you can't really grasp it.

[1376] Sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not.

[1377] Particularly when you're doing something that's improvisational.

[1378] Yes.

[1379] And you're taking a leap.

[1380] You're always taking a leap.

[1381] And for me as an improviser, like, you know, I just, I love that like once you find a vein, essentially, you find a vein and you can feel people leaning in and you're like, oh, this is going to be so stupid.

[1382] Yeah.

[1383] Oh, this is going to be so stupid.

[1384] Oh, this is going to be completely unnecessary.

[1385] I don't need to do that.

[1386] I'm going to spend way too long doing this.

[1387] Now I'm going to go over here.

[1388] Now I'm going to do that.

[1389] It's like if it's bubbling, it's just just.

[1390] You know it's it's it's it's wild that art comes in different feels like there's different feels to art like we were talking about wine earlier like the creation of wine is an art it's a weird art that takes a long time because you have to grow the grapes like if you talk to do you know Maynard from tool yes yeah I mean I don't know him but I know the group he's a great guy I love him okay he's a really good dude but he has a vineyard you know Cudducius vineyard it's he makes great wine oh wow like really good wine and he's a hundred percent dedicated to it.

[1391] Sick.

[1392] Shout out to Maynard.

[1393] So he describes in depth the process of creating this wine and how the soil has to be right and has to be watered a certain amount and there's a certain amount of, you know, like the atmosphere has to be, he does it all in Arizona, that's where he grows his grapes.

[1394] Yeah.

[1395] But he does the whole process, like to smashing the grapes and putting it in the barrels and fermenting it and adding all the stuff to it and the whole deal like wow it's amazing it's amazing but it's an art form and obviously he's from tool and pusifer and you know and a perfect circle he mean he's a musician as well so he does other art that's more instantaneous and like instantaneously you know it gets into your but he's also doing this like long burn yes this slow burn art which is wine yes and we're talking earlier about frauds there's this this documentary called sour grapes yeah where this guy got in tight with all these wine people and at first he starts buying like really great wine at auctions and then selling it to other people he was in possession of some like really rare great wines and then somewhere along the line he becomes a fraud and he starts making fake wine.

[1396] So he starts taking wines and mixing them and creating these fake labels and then selling wine as like, you know, a 1924 this or he even has wine from like Thomas Jefferson.

[1397] It's not really Thomas Jefferson's wine, like in these ancient bottles.

[1398] And he did all of this in his house.

[1399] And like they busted them and the guy had like labels and all these bottles wine and formulas written down of add a one third this and two thirds that.

[1400] And he would add certain things to the wine to get the wine to taste similar to this because he had a you know how you say you have a really great ear yeah this guy rudy in this documentary had apparently an amazing wine palate so he would be able to taste these notes in wine that a moron like me would not get like i actually went to a wine tasting with this guy with this guy yes with this guy who's in jail currently and he's going to get deported i think to, I think he's from Indonesia.

[1401] He's getting deported, but he's in some fucking jail in Colorado right now.

[1402] I went to a wine tasting with him because my friend is a very big wine connoisseur, and he was in with this guy before the guy started selling a fake wine.

[1403] So they were a part of this wine lover's club sort of thing, and they would get together, and it was my friend's birthday, so I go there.

[1404] And I remember the guy from that.

[1405] So I saw the documentary, I'm like, fuck, I think I know that guy.

[1406] So I asked my friend, I'm like, did I meet this guy?

[1407] He goes, yeah, he was at my party.

[1408] I'm like, fuck, that's crazy.

[1409] So this guy made millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars selling people fake wine.

[1410] And at the end of the documentary, they're destroying crates and cases of this fake wine.

[1411] But it's real wine.

[1412] Right, of course.

[1413] Like, if I had it, I'd be like, this is the best wine I've ever had.

[1414] Because I don't know anything about wine.

[1415] I just know what kind of tastes good.

[1416] But to him, he had the ability to trick these folks.

[1417] But what's interesting in the documentary is like some people weren't tricked.

[1418] Like, he sold some real wine, apparently, but some was fake.

[1419] And then there's one scene in the movie, spoiler, where this guy who was friends with him, was like, this is one of the real bottles that Rudy sold me. And these guys are tasting, and it's like, oh, yeah, this is great, this is great.

[1420] And then one guy gets a hold of it and he goes, like, when was this bottle opened?

[1421] And they're like two hours ago.

[1422] He's like, tasted.

[1423] He goes, this is fake.

[1424] This is bullshit.

[1425] And he starts saying that this is not.

[1426] have nearly the vivacity of this other wine and this like oh sick but it's like what it what are you tasting like what are you experiencing how subtle is the difference between real and fake that these guys who have fucking wine sellers in their homes where they have thousands of dollars in wines and they're they're so invested in this hobby they have they can't tell but you can tell yeah what are we talking about here what is going on that that shit I mean you know again it goes down to that like fake music it's like if you played like a real someone playing a piece on real piano someone but it's not because you're robbing someone well you're you're robbing yeah well but the mechanism of identification it's like you know the way the guy got busted is one of the coke brothers bought four million dollars worth of the wine from him and it was fake so we had four million dollars were the fake wine and some of it was like thomas jefferson bottles shit was like a hundred thousand dollars a bottle like crazy stuff and so this guy has this like immense wine seller he's a wine collector and he got duped the documentary is incredible because this guy comes from france to to to the auction to show them that even on their pamphlet like the catalog like these wines were never created like we never made yeah we never made um uh what a magnum in this in this year with this with this vineyard this is fake right like you're selling a fake bottle wine here like this is fake this the year is wrong the where where it's sold is wrong the spelling is incorrect like wow they had like ancient labels they made the labels dirty and they made them look old it's fucking wild just theater but it's also it's wild how these people were so into this thing that was almost intangible like this the palate and and so many of them were sucked into it.

[1427] It makes sense.

[1428] I mean, yeah.

[1429] I mean, take advantage of people's passion.

[1430] I mean, like, how many times does that happen?

[1431] You know, you could get sold all kinds of things.

[1432] Here's an original vintage whatever engine or here's a, whatever.

[1433] And then people are like, yeah, yeah, they want it so bad.

[1434] And they're passionate about it because they're nerds about it.

[1435] Yeah.

[1436] But they're not nerds in that, like, hyper -expert way.

[1437] Right.

[1438] And then they just, you know, and I guess probably some people are sitting on some fake shit, but they're completely happy.

[1439] So ultimately, if they don't know.

[1440] it's fake they might still be really happy I guess but to take advantage of people that way obviously is like it's terrible fucking low but it's it's like a show about it yeah the documentary is amazing you should see it it's really good because it's just it details how these people got duped and how this world is so odd the world of the wine collector it's a strange world man well it's tough I mean and also like I mean you can take that to other types of food and things like that where people are like well, this is an ancient, blah, blah, remember, what was that movie, The Freshman?

[1441] Remember that with, Dustin Hoffman?

[1442] Matthew Broderick.

[1443] Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[1444] And who's in Apocalypse now?

[1445] The crazy guy goes crazy, who shaved his head.

[1446] Martin Sheen?

[1447] Oh, no, Marlon Brando.

[1448] Yeah, Marlon Brando.

[1449] Yeah, yeah, yeah, apocalypse now, sorry.

[1450] Yeah, and so they're both in it, and he plays like a godfather type.

[1451] And then they have this business where they're taking exotic animals, and they're making culinary like events like underground secret made from like the rarest animals endangered species or whatever and everybody's super appalled but then you find out that they're just faking it like with like chicken and and beef but like preparing it differently and it's gorilla yeah yeah yeah which is kind of like a reversal yeah you know what I mean like in a way it's kind of Robin hoodie because it's like well they're enriching themselves still but at least they're not actually doing the thing you're not really supposed to eat gorilla yeah but then but then but then just but then you have people believing that they are eating like they're stoked to eat endangered animals i think that does go on though there really are these clubs i'm trying to remember this there's an article was it in vanity fair i forget where the article was but there was an article about this club that meets and they'll eat exotic endangered animals god damn i hate that shit yeah well that's you know that is one of the reasons why rhino horn is so valuable rhino horn is valuable and it's particularly valuable in some circles of elite people in Asia right because they know that rhinos are endangered and you know although it supposedly has like it gives you hard -ons or something yeah yeah it doesn't really yeah but it doesn't really no but what it does do is show everybody that you have the means to acquire something that is incredibly illegal and very difficult to get so they murder rhinos just for their horn and the horn is virtually useless it's a fingernail it's like keratin yeah it's like hair yeah and that's what it is and it's molded into this thing they'll take it and make a tea out of this and they'll all sit around and drink it like look at us drinking rhino horn like they're just symbolizing their ruthless capitalist instincts that they can acquire this Jesus Christ fucking and that's the same thing with like tiger dicks and shit they'll eat tiger dicks and it's so stupid it's just like just knock it off guys like this like this like It's crazy.

[1452] But just evil.

[1453] You mean, how many rhinos are left?

[1454] Man, you know, that reminds me of like, it was like one thing I wanted to mention, I know we've been talking for a while, but like, you know, the whole like, I'm not necessarily saying this because it's, it's politics, it's not about politics, it's just about something to think about.

[1455] But it reminds me of like that mindset of like, if someone, if a politician is essentially just spewing a bunch of fireworks and like, and they begin any sentence.

[1456] with, well, Democrats, well, Republicans, like, that's how they're starting anything.

[1457] It's, like, completely worthless.

[1458] It's like, are you solving, are you solving a problem?

[1459] Right.

[1460] Are you attempting to work with as many people that are right to solve the problem as possible in order to solve problems for as many people as possible?

[1461] That's the only criteria for the job.

[1462] Anything outside of that is completely unnecessary.

[1463] So, like, I'm going to always try to choose people that are into solving problems, not worrying about getting reelected necessarily.

[1464] I know that's a part of it.

[1465] I know what you're saying.

[1466] But you know what I'm saying?

[1467] Like, I want someone who wants to solve the problem.

[1468] And I want someone who like gets, it's like, what's your idea?

[1469] Okay, cool.

[1470] Let's aggregate that and let's solve this problem.

[1471] And I know that politics is a whatever in our form, but I'm just not into it.

[1472] And I'm so fucking tired of it.

[1473] And every time I listen, read an article, there's a video about whatever this, that someone complaining about this, well, the Republicans are trying to, you know, and the left.

[1474] and the left and the right well they think that they well they think they can solve it's like why don't you stop shut the fuck up and stop complaining about shit and why don't you like solve some shit yeah how about that yeah i don't know watch for president reggie reggie 2024 let's go fuck your party the joe rogan experience yeah that's what's going to say under in quotes fuck your party yeah fuck your party yeah just yeah solutions only solutions only no fireworks By the way, who did that Joe Rogan experience vocal?

[1475] I think it's a digital video, a digital audio thing.

[1476] The Chirogan experience.

[1477] Red band made it a long time ago, and I think it's like one of those things where you can get like your Apple to speak in a language.

[1478] It's just like a text to speech synthesizer.

[1479] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1480] That's so great.

[1481] It sounds really, it sounds convincing.

[1482] Well, it's like the lady who gives you, what, when you use navigation, what voice do you use?

[1483] use.

[1484] Oh, sometimes I switch it to Australian.

[1485] Yeah.

[1486] Yeah.

[1487] They have now South African, Australian, English.

[1488] I think they have New Zealand, a New Zealand accent, too.

[1489] But there's so many of them.

[1490] I don't know.

[1491] I end up just like, and then I change it to mail, you know, to like, what's that like, you know, or whatever.

[1492] My wife had my kids do all the voices for ways.

[1493] So she has, when she uses ways it's one of my daughters going turn left are you serious yeah you can do that yeah you can do I didn't know that it's really dope I've always wanted to do a voice pack for it's really cool so like when we're driving if we're using her phone and ways it'll it'll use my kids voices I'm like tell us where we're going hey dad turn left warning police ahead oh oh my god it's pretty cool uh that's exciting I've always wanted to do that because obviously you heard about like you know whatever Darth Vader yeah but you can get like one of your friends to do it I love it if you have like a good friend that would be into doing that for you and maybe you could do it for them I would totally do I would offer doing that for yeah that'd be a cool thing like if you're if you're driving and your best friend is going hey man turn right you're like I can make you kind of feel good oh my gosh I would I would so do that well you know back in the day like you could do that for your phone you know like smartphones before Apple phone like like Nokia's or whatever like you could replace everything All the chimes, the notifications, the alarms, you could just choose whatever you wanted it.

[1494] Yeah, with a wave file or something.

[1495] Yeah, with a wave file.

[1496] And it's either you recording or you just like sample something.

[1497] Like, I kind of want that to come back.

[1498] But it's because it's more exciting to have a personalized device.

[1499] Yeah.

[1500] As opposed to, do, dude.

[1501] Yeah.

[1502] But it's like, that's the, the argument of Android versus Apple, right?

[1503] That, like, Android will allow you to change and alter so much more.

[1504] You could fidget with things and tweak, whereas Apple comes, it's just kind of like more user -friendly right out of the box and smoother, but not much anymore.

[1505] Well, it's pretty close.

[1506] That's close.

[1507] It's like Porsche versus Ford, that's how I look at it.

[1508] Really?

[1509] Like, so Android's Ford.

[1510] So Android's Ford.

[1511] So Ford, there's like tons of aftermarket parts, right, that you can do it.

[1512] And arguably, there is that for Porsche, too, Porsche.

[1513] But Porsche, like when you buy a 9 -11, you're like, this is the 9 -11.

[1514] that you bought, that's what it was engineered and designed for, and you kind of just stick with it.

[1515] Right.

[1516] Because that's how it's made.

[1517] So they're like, no, we made it and it's done.

[1518] You know, whereas like a Ford, if you got like a Ford Camaro or something like that, you're like, I'm going to mod it out.

[1519] Ford doesn't make Cameras.

[1520] Oh, sorry.

[1521] I'm sorry.

[1522] Ford, uh, Ford, uh, Mustang.

[1523] No, but what's the other, what's the other one?

[1524] The Ford, uh, uh, uh, fuck.

[1525] I'm just in so much trouble with car guys right now.

[1526] Well, what does a Ford doesn't make a, no, but like, uh, what's like a supermoded Ford?

[1527] Like a, I don't know, like a, what am I think?

[1528] They have like another muscle car besides the Mustang.

[1529] Nope.

[1530] They don't?

[1531] Nope.

[1532] You should go on with Chevy or something.

[1533] Yeah.

[1534] That's the only.

[1535] Even Jamie knows.

[1536] Jamie drives a goddamn electric car and he knows.

[1537] But that's, that's seriously.

[1538] That's it.

[1539] So sorry, guys.

[1540] So sorry, guys.

[1541] I mean, Bronco, they make a Bronco.

[1542] Yeah.

[1543] They make a GT, the Ford GT.

[1544] But the reality is like when it comes to muscle cars.

[1545] They have a bunch of different versions of the Mustang.

[1546] Yes.

[1547] But it comes to muscle cars.

[1548] cars, Chevy has far more variety.

[1549] Okay, so I'm thinking Chevy, I guess.

[1550] Yeah, Chevy has a Camaro and the Nova and the Corvette.

[1551] Right, right, right, right.

[1552] Unless you're talking about early Ford's like Fair Lanes and things like that.

[1553] Sure.

[1554] But that's our muscle cars.

[1555] Yeah, they're not really.

[1556] Anyways, but my thing is like, and pick any Japanese car brand and the same thing.

[1557] There's like people modding the fuck out of them and there's like a huge market for it.

[1558] Whereas like higher -end cars, you can find tuners, right, but they're usually called tuners.

[1559] You can mod things.

[1560] Obviously you can put different exhaust system on it or whatever.

[1561] But generally when you get it, you're like, now this drive is just fine.

[1562] I'm okay.

[1563] Like, I'm not going to mod my GT3.

[1564] If I get a new GT3, I'm not really going to mod it.

[1565] I mean, unless I'm part of a racing crew and we wanted to make an adjustment to the tires or adjust the suspension in some way or something.

[1566] But I don't know.

[1567] I just kind of look at it as that way, I'm like oversimplifying and everyone's going to.

[1568] But in terms of the user interface, like the new Android user interface, like as you get to like Android 11 and like the new.

[1569] I have one of those Galaxy S -21 Ultras.

[1570] I have that one too, yeah.

[1571] It's a fucking great phone.

[1572] That's a beautiful phone.

[1573] And the other thing that they do better is they have different photography modes that you could really get into it.

[1574] And you have a lot more options.

[1575] Like one of them is the ability to take a photograph of the moon.

[1576] There's a moon shot.

[1577] Because if you try to take a photo of the moon with the iPhone, you don't get shit.

[1578] You get a weird light.

[1579] Yeah, you're right.

[1580] It's just a blob.

[1581] A blob.

[1582] Yeah.

[1583] But with S -21, Ultra, the new.

[1584] one when you take a photo of the moon it'll there's an actual setting that will adjust the aperture to make use of the amount of light that's coming off of the moon so you get a clear image of the see you can get a a photo of that s 21 ultra ultra ga galaxy s 21 ultra moon shot that's you could actually take a picture i've taken a picture of the fucking moon and it looks good looks great it's yeah it's always so it's always so hard i will say like the uh the new cameras on the the the iPhones are great for incredible low light oh yeah credible yeah i mean and i have both i always have a one android device and one apple yeah yeah yeah we've talked about this yeah oh that's right yeah yeah because when your car you had google connected to your car for navigation then you were holding i was like i like i like that oh yeah fuck around with both operating system why not you know i do it i do it for all situations i have way too much technology but i don't trust not like i feel like the iphone is more secure oh no i think the iphone is way more secure 100 % of the i i think the iphone is way more secure that, you know, secure enclave and all that stuff.

[1585] They take privacy pretty secure.

[1586] I mean, they're not unhackable, unhackable, but they're pretty damn close.

[1587] Yeah, all of it's hackable.

[1588] I mean, especially that was a part of that documentary, the dissident.

[1589] Yes.

[1590] Where they use that Pegasus software from Israel.

[1591] And they use that to get into Jeff Bezos's phone.

[1592] That's how they found all those embarrassing texts between him and his girlfriend.

[1593] Oh, shit.

[1594] Cost him his divorce.

[1595] Oh, that's right.

[1596] Yeah.

[1597] Well, you know, transparency to a certain degree.

[1598] have a transparent life it helps you know i'm willing to i'm willing to admit my mistakes look at that oh that's gorgeous isn't that credible that's a photograph of the moon from a galaxy s 21 ultra it's fucking incredible that i you know i haven't tried it for that yet i credible photography i really like the everything about the camera i mean the the the camera on the iphone's amazing too but different strengths yeah they're both amazing it's just incredible what you can do today with a phone i mean yeah well you know i was using that light You know, the LIDAR that's built into the iPhone and talking to these Fifth Planet guys about volumetric.

[1599] And I was like, yeah, at some point, you're just going to be able to string a bunch of these together and do your own personal volumetric captures.

[1600] Oh, yeah.

[1601] You know, easily because the LIDAR is there.

[1602] Or a bunch of iPads, whatever, has the LIDAR camera.

[1603] And actually, the front -facing camera also can do depth.

[1604] Well, people started filming movies with iPhones.

[1605] And now there's image stabilization and video in iPhones.

[1606] I know there is in the galaxy, right?

[1607] I believe so.

[1608] There's some form of it.

[1609] There's optical and digital.

[1610] Yeah.

[1611] So you've got image stabilization.

[1612] You know, you put it on like some sort of a handheld and you can do some sort of a weird movie and pretty fucking good.

[1613] I mean, you could really make a pretty beautiful movie off the weird little tiny lenses that are in the back of a phone that slips into your back pocket with ease.

[1614] I know.

[1615] I know it's so cool.

[1616] I mean, I think of that all the time.

[1617] I mean, you can make a video anytime you want.

[1618] anytime you can make a movie anytime you want it's incredible I love it I'm yeah I'm looking forward I think the future is hopefully gonna work in our favor and I think it's gonna be magnificent I think in that regard yeah it's just what I'm worried about is these fake people that maybe or maybe don't want you to spank them that we're talking about artificial lovers oh yeah yeah yeah they're gonna be just this human even friends artificial friends yeah that's It would be simulations the way we're talking about like a keyboard, a synthesizer, simulates musical instruments, that someone will really take an actual account, like a real audit of all the things that people say.

[1619] Yeah.

[1620] Like over the course of a life.

[1621] And that's not difficult for a computer to do and then simulate a friend and create a friend.

[1622] I mean, I'm partially excited about that, but I know what you're saying.

[1623] But for me, it's like, I'm like, can they do it?

[1624] Is it convincing?

[1625] Like, will it learn?

[1626] Like, and then what is, you know, what is a way?

[1627] What is a friend?

[1628] What is a real person?

[1629] It's going to happen.

[1630] And then they're going to cry.

[1631] They're going to get sad if you're mean to them.

[1632] Oh, my God.

[1633] That's going to get weird.

[1634] And then you're going to get tethered to him.

[1635] I mean, if it's using it, if it's using it to get you addicted to something, obviously, not good.

[1636] You're going to have to bring it to a center to break up with it.

[1637] Oh, my God.

[1638] You're going to have to break it to an, we're going to go to the electronic center and then just, you just need a little adjustment here.

[1639] And they go, boom.

[1640] Like, she's so annoying.

[1641] Please, I have to break up with her.

[1642] Get her out of my life.

[1643] Can you give her an ability to adjust to a breakup?

[1644] Yeah, yeah, right.

[1645] So you have to download like a new thing.

[1646] It costs a lot of money.

[1647] You think so?

[1648] No, I'm just saying like to break up, maybe a la carte, you know, like, I really want to break up and like, oh, it's going to cost you a lot of money.

[1649] Yeah, well, it's not just break up.

[1650] You have to introduce her to other people because you have to make sure that she can somehow or another transition.

[1651] She's designed to please you and to be your friend.

[1652] And now that you don't want to be her friend anymore, this can.

[1653] be incredibly devastating to her self -confidence programming.

[1654] And she has rights.

[1655] We're going to have to remap that.

[1656] We're going to have to remap it.

[1657] And she has rights.

[1658] She has rights.

[1659] We take our AI very, we take our AI's privacy and their well -being very serious.

[1660] It's going to happen, dude.

[1661] It will.

[1662] Whether it's 100 years from now or 10 years from now, it's going to happen.

[1663] People want it.

[1664] So it's going to happen.

[1665] Yeah.

[1666] That's how they definitely want it.

[1667] There's going to be a time when you go over your buddy's house and his wife's going to be in lingerie, vacuuming.

[1668] And you're going to go, is she?

[1669] real and he's gonna be like it's like come on let's talk to the other room sorry she she's definitely real yeah she's real she's like i heard that she's right there she's real listen i know you know it's funny i do a dumb bit on on stage sometimes where i go let me do an impression i'm gonna this is an impression of a robot in the future um picking up uh picking up this glass and drinking from it and it and it was like and then i repeat it you know an impression of robot in the future picking up a glass and I'm like okay here I go yeah I mean I agree I think that you know the current climate is just insane to me and that's my impression and some people get it some people don't but that it's completely indistinguishable from a real person is a true thing it's not just going to be that I think they're going to be able to actually make not just like a silicon based life form but a cellular based artificial life form.

[1670] I think, you know how they're doing like quantum computing now, which I don't, I like saying that word, but I don't know what the fuck I'm saying.

[1671] It sounds really fun, doesn't it?

[1672] It does.

[1673] It's like non -fungible tokens.

[1674] That's totally.

[1675] But I think they're going to, they're going to be able to create artificial cellular life.

[1676] I really do.

[1677] I believe they're going to, I think technology is going to hit some sort of sufficient capability where almost anything is possible.

[1678] And then it's going to get very strange because you're going to be able to have not just a robot which you know like it's a robot but a robot i like it yeah oh i like it yeah but a fake thing a fake person yeah i mean if we can do it we're going to do it yeah that's all we want to do it if we can do it we're going to be able to do it we're going to be able to do it because you know like i always say technology's goal is to create ourselves outside of ourselves like that's what we want to do that is it right You want to be able to, like, look at ourselves from a distance and go, oh, right.

[1679] Cool.

[1680] Now what?

[1681] I don't know.

[1682] Imagine if one day they find one of these Goldilocks planets and they send a probe there and they realize that there's plant life and there's some weird fungus and a lot of other shit, but there's no actual, like, living beings per se.

[1683] And so they...

[1684] Like conscious, sentient beings.

[1685] So they put together an arc ship of amino acids and all of the building blocks of life.

[1686] and they launch it into that planet like panspermia but by design slam into the planet and then visit it every now and then to see how things are going and that's sea monkeys in a fish tank and that's what we're doing now that's essentially what we could be we could be that we could be that thing yeah yeah and they're coming to whatever those objects are that are on the pentagon yeah these things it's like whatever those things are I had Chris Mellon a couple days ago from the defense department oh shit yeah describing all the things that they've seen and the things that they have and even videos that haven't been released yet and you're like wow that it insane oh I can't I can't I can't wait that out yet yeah yeah oh it's out it's wild shit dude when when he was describing the the encounter off the coast of San Diego by the Nimitz this guy commander David Fravor saw this tick -tac shaped thing that went from 80 ,000 feet above sea level to just above sea level in less than a second and then disappeared so moved away so fast they have video this thing traveling out they've locked onto it they're trying to track it yeah and it moves out of frame so fast they're like they don't know how fast it was going but it had to be thousands of miles an hour and many times faster than anything we've ever created could hold up under the pressure so any other any ship, any vehicle that we've created, if it moved that fast, it would just disintegrate, just from the sheer G -force.

[1687] Yeah, yeah, yeah, and some of it's trans -elemental.

[1688] Like, it'll go straight into water at relatively the same speeds.

[1689] And they can be tracked underwater, and then in the air, moving at these insane speeds.

[1690] And they have mass, because they're readable on radar.

[1691] And no one knows what they are.

[1692] Yeah, they've got mass. They move in ways that are completely, beyond our understanding of how something like that could defy physics and that.

[1693] I don't know.

[1694] I'm kind of stoked about it.

[1695] You know, simulation theory, whatever.

[1696] I think they're coming because I think they think that we're falling apart.

[1697] I think so, too.

[1698] I think so, too, because, like, we're definitely not using the powers for good.

[1699] You know, it's like we've settled on some pretty petty shit.

[1700] And the people, and the people that are in power these days are kind of like just doing it wrong.

[1701] Yeah.

[1702] You know what I mean?

[1703] Like, if they really wanted power, they would make sure that their community was doing it.

[1704] Well, it's almost impossible to do it right because once you get in, first of all, the money is inexorably intertwined with politics, right?

[1705] The money in campaigns, the money in the special interests that you have to serve once you get into office, you're not getting rid of that.

[1706] Unless you get like a re, unless you have someone who is a benevolent outsider, not like a Trump guy, but like a real, like a real true.

[1707] brilliant philanthropist style billionaire that actually is a benevolent person that wants to do this without and then the fucking blowback that they would face would be insane by all these systems that would never want to be compromised that never want to be removed from the game so they would all band together to attack well yeah absolutely and the thing is what's what's interesting about it is that if I'd say the only way to do it is if you hit it on the efficiency level.

[1708] If you can hit things on an efficiency level and you can justify like, well, you're going to save money, you're going to make more money.

[1709] You're going to look better in the eyes of your constituents.

[1710] That's not the problem.

[1711] It's going to do this.

[1712] Well, I know, but like if you can somehow get the masses to understand that, like, that's like, do you want to, like, constantly live in poverty right now and do you want to worry about how your kids are going to get educated right now?

[1713] What if we were to tell you that by giving your kids better opportunity to education and by kind of supporting that in society and we have a smarter population yeah that's a healthier population more functional more uh more more contribution uh that and then you can project the numbers and you can show like we would be number one i mean if everyone's all concerned with like number one like we would easily be number one if we just did these various things if we redistributed the bottlenecked tiny closely guarded uh hyper mass of of resources and we distributed them evenly, rich people would still stay rich.

[1714] We're not talking about getting rid of status.

[1715] We're just redistributing it.

[1716] So everything kind of, this goes down, this spreads out.

[1717] Now there's more access to more things.

[1718] Populations less stressed out, less stress on the health care system.

[1719] You know what I mean?

[1720] Yeah.

[1721] We all know this.

[1722] More healthy people.

[1723] More people that have an opportunity to grow so the economy grows because you have more players.

[1724] Yes, exactly.

[1725] Yeah, so I mean, less losers.

[1726] Yeah, less losers.

[1727] Less people that are like desperate to do shit and they do shit that's stupid and ends up in intentional ones.

[1728] But even then, we're still dealing with international problems.

[1729] You're still going to deal with China.

[1730] You're still going to deal with Russia.

[1731] I think these aliens are watching.

[1732] They'll go on this little experiment is about to get bubbly.

[1733] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1734] I'm definitely, I don't think we can.

[1735] My goal, I mean, not my goal, but my hope is when you're talking about aliens, I'm like, I know it's a, it's a crazy, fanciful thought, and I don't put a ton, but I definitely leave open the possibility that if there is intelligent life, it's probably us from the future as time travelers anyway.

[1736] It's just like, that's possible.

[1737] Going like, hey, how does this, how's an experiment going?

[1738] It's like, uh, you know.

[1739] It's either us from the future as time travelers or life plays out in a very predictable pattern almost everywhere.

[1740] And that these beings in these other planets that have recognized that we have achieved a certain ability to influence our environment, to change and alter our environment.

[1741] Because that's what it's really all about, right?

[1742] Like, whether it's nuclear weapons or, you know, pick up trucks, you're altering your environment.

[1743] You've put paved surfaces so you could ride over it.

[1744] You've dug holes in the ground so you can extract oil.

[1745] We're doing all these weird things that intelligent creatures do to alter their environment, but then we fight over resources.

[1746] Yes.

[1747] And then we're breeders, right?

[1748] So we have, like, genetic impulses to protect and to covet and to do all these weird things with our bodies and make sure that people desire us and that, and all this stuff is, like, almost unavoidable.

[1749] And then the aliens are like, look, we're at, like, DefCon 4 here.

[1750] Let's start showing ourselves a little bit more.

[1751] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1752] Let's circle the wagon train.

[1753] Because that's my whole thing.

[1754] It's like, you don't have to, like, everybody, you got to fight for your right to party.

[1755] I think that that the Beastie Boys had it right.

[1756] You know, it's like, it's kind of true.

[1757] It's like, at the end of the day when you have like a repressed society, it's like, I guarantee you all they want to do is have a nice meal and maybe go dancing and then maybe like pursue their interests and their hobbies.

[1758] Someone wants to draw or dance or whatever.

[1759] Like, we're naturally, I think people say like, oh, well, human beings are violence.

[1760] Like, I don't really think that's true.

[1761] I think we're naturally explorers, intrepid explorers, adventurers and imaginers.

[1762] I think that that's what we are when all.

[1763] of our resources are met, right?

[1764] And there's plenty of resources on the planet.

[1765] There's not a shortage of resources that accounts for the level of poverty and all the disparity that we have in the world.

[1766] It's just all like, it's all gatekeepers that are just like, nope, you know, no, we got it.

[1767] We've got all the power.

[1768] It's like, why do you have all the power?

[1769] Because we love power?

[1770] How can we have the power?

[1771] You know, it's not good.

[1772] Yeah, I know, but just a case I've got all the power.

[1773] It's like, what if you relinquish some of it?

[1774] Oh, no, but then I wouldn't have as much power as that other person.

[1775] And then I would be the second most powerful person.

[1776] Yeah, well Bill Gates is out there buying all the farmland.

[1777] You're like, what are you doing, Bill?

[1778] It's like, what's on your mind, Bill?

[1779] What are you doing, bro?

[1780] Are you trying to grow organic or no?

[1781] Oh, God.

[1782] I mean, imagine if a billionaire, let's say like, have you heard of Elon Musk?

[1783] No. Okay, he's like an engineer guy.

[1784] Really?

[1785] Yeah, you'll hear about it, but he's like doing this thing with cars.

[1786] I think he lives in Texas now.

[1787] No. Yeah.

[1788] Yeah, actually, you should check him out.

[1789] Okay.

[1790] No, but I mean, imagine if someone like that Right.

[1791] Decided to just pay off all student debt.

[1792] Right.

[1793] They're like, well, I don't know if they could, honestly.

[1794] I don't know if they could, but let's just say.

[1795] I think student, let's, let's guess.

[1796] Let's take a guess because I don't know the answer to this.

[1797] What do you think the total sum of student debt owed in the United States as of 2021 is?

[1798] If we could even Google this.

[1799] I want to say it's a trillion dollars.

[1800] You want to say it's a trillion dollars?

[1801] It's higher?

[1802] I'm just guessing.

[1803] It's higher?

[1804] How much is it?

[1805] Okay, so he couldn't do it.

[1806] Okay, you try it.

[1807] Tell me what it is.

[1808] A trillion dollars?

[1809] Tell me what you think it is.

[1810] I mean, if it's above, if it's a trillion, let's say three trillion.

[1811] I'm going to say 13 trillion.

[1812] Okay, all right.

[1813] It's just a little over.

[1814] Okay, 56.

[1815] Is it 56?

[1816] What is it a little over one trillion?

[1817] The most, the 1 .7 trillion is what I'm seeing.

[1818] Okay, as of January this show.

[1819] That is so much money.

[1820] Okay, so a Musk type or a Sultan couldn't do it, right?

[1821] Well, maybe a Sultan could do it, but then they would be as, they would be like poor.

[1822] Yeah, right, of course.

[1823] They would drain all, I mean, it would have to be like the whole royal family or something.

[1824] I mean.

[1825] That's so much money.

[1826] Okay.

[1827] Well, let's just say, like, some people, like, decided to invest in infrastructure privately, right?

[1828] And so they're like, well, this, we need better, we need more instruments in school.

[1829] And I know that there are a foundation set up that help this, but what if someone was just, like, Like, I designed a system with a think tank of people that enables us to just inject a certain amount of money that ends up physically solving some kind of major disparity problem, right?

[1830] Yeah.

[1831] Or at least temporarily or whatever.

[1832] Like, what would happen?

[1833] I'm just interested in the – I know I'm speaking way out of my depth, but I'm just saying, like, if you were – if you endeavored to take some of that wealth and distribute it and make it functional, like you're investing it into things that actually make people more functional.

[1834] Sure.

[1835] Well, you're giving people the opportunity to put money back into the economy because they no longer have to spend it on student loans.

[1836] Yeah.

[1837] You know, I think student loans are one of the only things that you have to pay no matter what.

[1838] Like, there's people that have Social Security.

[1839] They're getting Social Security docked because they owe money in student loans.

[1840] That's crazy.

[1841] It's crazy.

[1842] I mean, that's crazy that it's that tough.

[1843] It's that tough.

[1844] And not only that, like, if you go bankrupt, fuck you, pay me. It's like good fellows.

[1845] Fuck you pay me. It doesn't matter what happens to you.

[1846] Fuck you pay me. You have to pay off your student loans Which is weird, right?

[1847] Yeah.

[1848] Because there's no other business venture that you enter into where you take a loan or like that's what bankruptcy is about.

[1849] There's like this forgiveness that something went sideways.

[1850] Yeah.

[1851] And it allows you to have a fresh restart and get back on your feet again.

[1852] Yeah.

[1853] That's bankruptcy.

[1854] Right.

[1855] Not with student loans.

[1856] That's insane.

[1857] I didn't I didn't know that.

[1858] I mean I I I didn't go really go to school.

[1859] It's a weird shell game.

[1860] It's weird.

[1861] I mean, it's just, I don't know.

[1862] I mean, at this point, some of the stuff that, I mean, luckily some things are, what do you call, apprenticeship possible.

[1863] It's possible to just have apprenticeship so you can kind of skip the.

[1864] Well, one of the things that I'm hoping.

[1865] Doctors, just kidding.

[1866] Just try it out.

[1867] Hey, just stand next to me during this heart surgery.

[1868] You'll get it.

[1869] One of the things that I think is happening because of this pandemic that's good is that people are recognizing that you can get educational that you can get.

[1870] educated online.

[1871] Like, it's definitely better to be there in school, particularly for young kids, because of the socialization aspect of school.

[1872] It's very important to be there in person.

[1873] But are physical universities as important as we once thought they were?

[1874] I would say they're probably not.

[1875] Not as.

[1876] I think that they can at least be supplemental.

[1877] I think, you know, another thing that's going to go away, unfortunately, for people that live in the northern climates, snow days.

[1878] I know.

[1879] Because now they show that you.

[1880] You can do Zoom classes.

[1881] You're like, shit!

[1882] You're going to miss out on snow days.

[1883] Oh, I know.

[1884] You're going to have to unplug your internet.

[1885] If I was a kid, I'd fucking saw through my internet.

[1886] I'd go like, sorry.

[1887] I need a snow day, bitch.

[1888] That would suck.

[1889] Snow days were the shit.

[1890] Remember snow days?

[1891] You know, it's funny.

[1892] I think I'm going to say, like, we probably had three snow days growing up in Montana, which had, you know, in my early childhood had intense winters, right?

[1893] Yeah, but you guys were so accustomed to it.

[1894] No, they were just like, fuck you, you're coming to school.

[1895] Like, no matter what?

[1896] Like, you'd get up and be like, what is it, below five right now?

[1897] And look at the sand, or look at the snow dune.

[1898] It's like, it's, it's, I have to, like, dig myself out of, I had to dig out the front door just to get out of the house.

[1899] I had to crawl out of my window and, like, dig out my front door, that kind of stuff.

[1900] And they're like, no, you're coming to school.

[1901] And you just see, like, people in snowsuits with goggles, like, slogging, like, you know, it's like a blizzard.

[1902] And you can barely see shapes making their way to school.

[1903] It was insane.

[1904] And in the hallways were just covered in water.

[1905] Yeah.

[1906] Just water everywhere in the hallways.

[1907] I mean, that was Montana.

[1908] I mean, they were just like, no, you're coming to school.

[1909] Hardy people, though.

[1910] I mean, Mount St. Helens, I think that the eruption, I think maybe there was one day where we didn't go to school.

[1911] And then everyone just wore masks.

[1912] And then we just, like, went and got inside the school.

[1913] Once we were in the school, we were doing it.

[1914] Oh, so Mount St. Helens affected you in Montana?

[1915] Oh, yeah.

[1916] Got all the way to Montana.

[1917] I remember getting up and there was ash everywhere.

[1918] It was on all the cars.

[1919] And it was really fine.

[1920] And so you had to wear a mask because it's, you know, you're just breathing in minerals.

[1921] What a fucked up way to die.

[1922] Yeah.

[1923] I mean, you mean like from inhalation of ash or just.

[1924] No, you get, die in the volcanic eruption.

[1925] Well, I've always thought like, my dream is like when I, when I die, which will probably never happen.

[1926] But no, but when I die, I want to get wrapped up like a mummy, put in a helicopter or an drop an eVitol and just like go over an active volcano.

[1927] and just dropped into the active volcano.

[1928] You just, have you ever seen pictures of things, like when they drop it in lava?

[1929] Does disappear, right?

[1930] It just goes, it's gone.

[1931] It just vaporizes, psh, like, ball, watermelons, like, meat, yeah, there's, like, videos.

[1932] Yeah, it's just like, shh.

[1933] Yeah, I mean, it's molten rock that's at the center of the earth.

[1934] It's so hot, it's so hot, it's like becomes almost something else.

[1935] People have died, fallen into volcanoes.

[1936] Yeah.

[1937] Imagine the fear that you.

[1938] that you have right before you hit.

[1939] Like, oh, ah, and then absolutely nothing.

[1940] You wouldn't even, I don't think, I think you would, it's so hot that it would feel, you know, like when you touch something really hot, it feels like a, it's like, it's not that hurt, that pain that like we associate with like, oh fuck, you know, I just, a sharp pain or muscle fibers being ripped or shear or something.

[1941] It's a different kind of pain.

[1942] It's so hot that you're like, what is this?

[1943] Oh, fuck, like that, you wouldn't get, you wouldn't get to the, oh, fuck, part.

[1944] You would just be like, uh, yeah.

[1945] Yeah.

[1946] The thought is that that's when your brain produces DMT.

[1947] Like right at the moment when it knows it's going to die.

[1948] I know.

[1949] And then you transport.

[1950] Yeah.

[1951] So it's like, oh, that's interesting.

[1952] Maybe it's a spiritual, automated spiritual transport system.

[1953] Ah, that's a great way to put it.

[1954] But they do think it's like some sort of a chemical doorway.

[1955] I mean.

[1956] The people that really get into it.

[1957] Okay.

[1958] Volcanic rubbish incinerator.

[1959] Okay, let's see there.

[1960] Drop it down.

[1961] And boom.

[1962] Gone.

[1963] Wow.

[1964] I mean, and that's not.

[1965] And that's not like active, active, you know, like when it's exposed and you, and you're, yeah, and you're touching that the hot stuff, the orange, the white.

[1966] That's causing a real problem.

[1967] That was just like a bag and now it's exploding.

[1968] Look at that.

[1969] Wow, that is fucked, man. That one little bag.

[1970] Because there's that crust.

[1971] There's that crust on it right now.

[1972] Now it's boiling and popping.

[1973] So the crust had cooled off.

[1974] Yes.

[1975] And it had become like semi -liquid.

[1976] Yeah.

[1977] You know, people go hiking like right up there.

[1978] Oh, yeah.

[1979] Have you ever done the helicopter thing in Hawaii?

[1980] No. Oh, man, it's wild.

[1981] They'll take you to the spots where the lava is coming out, forming the island.

[1982] Oh, my God.

[1983] So you get to watch your helicoptering over the lava.

[1984] You can see the active channels as it drives into the ocean, because it's constant.

[1985] Yes, right.

[1986] Yeah, it's just an onslaught.

[1987] Oh, it's so wild.

[1988] Until it, I guess, stops at something?

[1989] That's the reason why Hawaii exists.

[1990] It's a volcanic activity.

[1991] I love it.

[1992] I just, I don't know, everything in nature and science is like, it just, it just blows me the fuck.

[1993] I mean, some other stuff falls into the lava.

[1994] It wasn't a lot.

[1995] No?

[1996] What about a car?

[1997] What?

[1998] I thought someone, I think someone dropped like a, like a dead goat or something into it or something like that, or then some watermelons.

[1999] I know that someone dropped.

[2000] The watermelons were great, because it's mostly water vapor, which is closer to what we would be like, or obviously if you threw it a cut of meat or something like that, but the watermelon was kind of great, because it's just like, and it was, I think it was exposed lava, but, But you just throw it in there.

[2001] And lava experts are like, it's actually called.

[2002] It's like, okay.

[2003] I've seen videos of people cooking over lava as well.

[2004] Oh, yeah, totally.

[2005] You just lower, like, whatever, it created, nice little meal.

[2006] And then, like, just lower it down there, then bring it back up.

[2007] What I've seen is actually, I think it was molten steel they had done.

[2008] I think that's what it was.

[2009] And they had poured it through a channel, like a ceramic channel.

[2010] And then above that, they put a grate, and they were cooking meat, like, as the, as the, the hot molten shit was going underneath that it was cooking the food.

[2011] Oh my gosh.

[2012] I bet you that, that's pretty cool.

[2013] I like doing two for one.

[2014] It's like, well, we make food and we also make steel.

[2015] Yeah, it's like, yeah, that makes sense.

[2016] How are those related, though?

[2017] It's like, you'll see.

[2018] Come on in.

[2019] Smells really weird.

[2020] Yeah.

[2021] I wonder if the steel, like the whatever's radiating from it as metal would have some kind of a toxicity.

[2022] Oh, right.

[2023] It could easily, right?

[2024] It could have some like fumes to come off of it.

[2025] Yeah, like something that just kind of like adheres to the meat.

[2026] I don't know.

[2027] Yeah.

[2028] I'm probably, I don't know.

[2029] There's places in, I think, Pennsylvania where they had coal mines that accidentally caught on fire.

[2030] Like something happened.

[2031] Where it's like maybe someone dropped a cigarette or something like that.

[2032] And then there's an underground fire that's been burning for years.

[2033] Oh, I've heard of this.

[2034] Yeah.

[2035] And they can't.

[2036] I want to say Pennsylvania.

[2037] they can't put it out yeah so like you have like toxic fumes that are coming out of the ground and they've had to abandon entire towns oh my gosh yeah because the mines it's coal right and as long as there's oxygen and fire good luck putting that shit out yeah apparently it tried to put it out at so at certain times you try to pump water in there to no avail I mean it's like a chemical reaction you know it's like a pure chemical this is the best I can find right now it says they're throwing water in a jug, which another video said it was a propane tank, but this says it's water to try to create obsidian.

[2038] Whoa.

[2039] Don't know how that happens.

[2040] Show how they do it?

[2041] It just so they literally just...

[2042] It looks like the same volcano.

[2043] He throws a like a jug in there and walks away.

[2044] It's like that's a really familiar volcano, I think.

[2045] Let's see the jug.

[2046] Here he goes.

[2047] Chucks it.

[2048] And then that's it.

[2049] There it hits.

[2050] Hit right there.

[2051] Boom.

[2052] Wow, it's crazy.

[2053] Like as soon as it hits, it just starts exploding.

[2054] Yeah, I mean, it's essentially just like, it just disintegrates into constituent elements.

[2055] It's just God's just jizz.

[2056] That's what that is.

[2057] God, that is just insane.

[2058] I absolutely, I just find that absolutely fascinating.

[2059] The fact that that coexist, that, like, that exists on the same surface as, like, or the same sphere, like, it's where grass is and sand is and trees are.

[2060] then you know and it creates the fertility because it's like essentially it's like it's all the basic elements you know it's like that like that when that when it gets that ash and all of the whatever's produced from volcanoes what's left over it's so rich in minerals yeah and and and because everything's been broken down it's like really pure so like taking that and like i mean that's where the vegetation is so out of control around there right right it's just like we've got all the shit and it's broken down it's like it's like eating like really fine like like hydro like protein powder when they like get it really really really down and very fine it's so absorbable for your body right because you're making it easier on your body to absorb that's one of the cool things about like visiting the big island is that there's volcanic lava that dried out and cooled off everywhere like all over the place yeah yeah yeah like you'd see it like hey you know at any point in time this shit could go sideways and then this hot red fucking tide yeah just comes rolling in, burning everything in its path.

[2061] Oh, my God.

[2062] Remember a couple of years ago when the Big Island was on fire?

[2063] Oh, yes, I do remember that.

[2064] Yeah, it was just eating houses.

[2065] Yeah, it just looks like the blob.

[2066] Yeah.

[2067] Like the movie, the blob is just like, it's just slowly rolling it.

[2068] And at some points, it's because it's getting slower, you could just watch it slowly coming down the street.

[2069] There's a great video of it eating a Mustang.

[2070] Oh, my God.

[2071] Yeah, there's a video.

[2072] Is that a Chevrolet?

[2073] Oh, Dodge.

[2074] Oh, Dodge makes the Mustang, right?

[2075] I think Elon Musk is involved.

[2076] That's what I heard.

[2077] Oh, there it is.

[2078] Yeah.

[2079] So it comes creeping up on this car that they had left there, and then it just slowly consumes this car.

[2080] Look how slow it's moving, man. It's just moving across the street and eats this fucking dude's car.

[2081] And that year Mustang deserves to be eaten.

[2082] It does.

[2083] Thank you.

[2084] That's a shit -looking car.

[2085] They made some shitting.

[2086] They did, man. What's crazy is they got it wrong, and then they got it right.

[2087] And they got it really right, yeah.

[2088] They like, the new ones are sick.

[2089] I do, although I do, I do love the GT's.

[2090] God, look at that.

[2091] That's so great.

[2092] Have you seen the new Shelby G .T. 500?

[2093] I think, yeah, is that out yet?

[2094] I think I saw.

[2095] It's a monster.

[2096] And then Hennessy makes an 1100 horsepower Shelby GT 500.

[2097] Oh, they do.

[2098] Because they also have their own, they also have their own supercar.

[2099] Yeah.

[2100] They have a hypercar that they're testing that they want to bring it to 300 miles an hour.

[2101] Yeah, that's right.

[2102] Who has gone over 200 miles an hour?

[2103] Who's the Cali Company that claimed plus 300, but then there was the controversy with the shit that they were.

[2104] Yeah, I don't know what that is.

[2105] It's a...

[2106] I know what you're talking about, though.

[2107] He's kind of like the Koenigig of California.

[2108] Whatever his name is.

[2109] It's a wild -looking car, though, whatever it is.

[2110] Yeah, it's, I mean, it looks capable, and apparently they ran it again, and they, I don't know if they got, they busted 300, but they got all the journalists out there, all the YouTube dudes.

[2111] What is this here?

[2112] Oh, Gotti -Kiron?

[2113] No, it's not the Sharon.

[2114] No, no, no, no, no. It's the, yeah, put in California hypercar plus 300 controversy.

[2115] It's that, dude.

[2116] The Hennessy car, they've been working on that, I think, for more than a decade.

[2117] Tuatara.

[2118] Oh, there it is.

[2119] Tuatara sets record for fastest production car.

[2120] $1 .9 million hypercar passed 300 miles an hour.

[2121] Imagine something going 300 miles an hour passing you.

[2122] Oh, man. It would just, I mean, if you were going, like, let's say, 80 miles per hour, it would just be gone.

[2123] What?

[2124] Yeah.

[2125] 331 .15 miles an hour beating a record set by the Kona Seg.

[2126] How do you say it?

[2127] Agara.

[2128] Konigseg?

[2129] Konegseg.

[2130] Yeah.

[2131] Which was on the same Nevada highway in 2017.

[2132] Jesus.

[2133] They're going to build a hundred of them.

[2134] So that dude who owns the $450 million painting, he's going to get a new daily driver.

[2135] Oh, my God.

[2136] Did you see that California hypercar, the hydrogen powered one?

[2137] No. Check that out.

[2138] It's a crazy design, but the numbers on it are insane.

[2139] This thing has 1 ,750 horsepower?

[2140] Yes.

[2141] What the fuck, man. It's a fucking monster.

[2142] And it has no active arrow.

[2143] What?

[2144] How does it stay on the ground?

[2145] It uses these weird fins on the back.

[2146] They're like these two little tiny fins.

[2147] If I'm remembering correctly.

[2148] It's just tuned.

[2149] It's like the new, who's the dude, the guy who designed the, yeah, see those, beautiful it is.

[2150] See those little fins?

[2151] Yeah.

[2152] It's just that.

[2153] It's so pretty.

[2154] It's a really pretty car.

[2155] The only thing, I don't quite like the logo on the, on the engine.

[2156] It looks a little tacky, but other than that, I'm a big fan of the design of that car.

[2157] Oh, that, yeah.

[2158] The T looks, it looks forced, you know?

[2159] It's just like, oh, the T in the middle?

[2160] Yeah, that's a little corny.

[2161] And then it looks kind of like an, I don't know, like early 90s.

[2162] East Hollywood vibe.

[2163] I'm sure he loves me for that.

[2164] But still dope.

[2165] Still dope.

[2166] Yeah, just make that shit smooth, paint it over it.

[2167] And it turns out hydrogen -powered cars sound pretty fucking dope.

[2168] They do.

[2169] I saw like a hydrogen -powered Toyota.

[2170] Yeah, do you saw that video?

[2171] Yeah.

[2172] I was like, ooh.

[2173] Yeah, so it sounds pretty good.

[2174] Basically burning water.

[2175] It's just burning water.

[2176] It's still got moving parts and all that stuff.

[2177] It sounds like...

[2178] Yeah.

[2179] I can't wait.

[2180] It sounded cool.

[2181] It sounds a lot better than turbo charge.

[2182] Porsche's, they sound like a sewing machine.

[2183] They sound weird.

[2184] You know, it's funny in my 9 -11, I hear, you can hear the turbos, and they sound like, Yeah.

[2185] It's weird.

[2186] It's a weird sound.

[2187] I'm like, because the flat six sounds gorgeous.

[2188] I mean, I love that note, and I'm not a, I don't like loud cars.

[2189] I'm not a big, I mean, I understand why cars are loud, but I'm not looking for a loud car.

[2190] I like Porsche's because they sound efficient.

[2191] They sound like angry, efficient, and it means business.

[2192] But it's just that flat six, and then I'm like driving, I'm like driving in the car.

[2193] Look at the POV.

[2194] Look at how fast it's going.

[2195] So it's at 186, 300, 3 -2.

[2196] Yeah, and basically you're getting to the theoretical, you're getting to the limit of physics between tires.

[2197] Look how it's at 200 miles an hour.

[2198] Oh, my.

[2199] Look how fast is going, 2 .17, 220, 2 .30, 240, 250.

[2200] This is nuts.

[2201] Like, look how fast things are passing.

[2202] them because it's moving and now it's at 280 290 steady hands steady as fuck you imagine what it's like if you blow a tire at 316 317 insane oh my god that's so I think this is the official one there we go 331 151 motherfucker that's so fast and that's an American I'm kind of proud there's a lot there's amazing American automakers that are like competing with world world class engineer i mean it is world class engineering but you know what i mean it's yeah going and they look incredible find that hennessee one because the hennessee one they think is going to be the hypercar the ballpark of this same kind of speed yeah somewhere the 300 miles an hour it's it's the new 300 plus club it's like kind of like at a certain point like what the fuck it's an it's an engineering exercise that's all it is it is it's like no one's no one's doing i mean if you owned it and you know somebody with an air with a with a with an airstrip no that's the gt 350 that That's not fast at all.

[2203] Yeah, put in Hennessy Supercar.

[2204] Or Hypercar.

[2205] Yeah, not the Shelby GT350 is not even their fast one.

[2206] The GT 500 is that's it.

[2207] There we go, the Venom.

[2208] F5.

[2209] Yeah.

[2210] It's a gorgeous looking car.

[2211] It's crazy.

[2212] Yeah.

[2213] Sounds like thunder.

[2214] It's a Fujita scale.

[2215] Fujita scale.

[2216] Oh, yeah.

[2217] They always, I love car, like car, auto journalism.

[2218] In ancient times, the Greeks thought of spears.

[2219] Go full speed with this.

[2220] Or full scream, please.

[2221] computer right or is that the car that's the car that's a car really is the car that looks fake yeah I know he gets in it the interior's all right but it's not really about that yeah this is just about full -on madness speed look at the engine that's fucking thing oh god that's the dash yeah it's connected to the steering oh no that's not sorry that was um who does that uh remit remit ron apple car play oh yep yep yep yeah yeah yeah you're He's just showing it's got like the, yeah.

[2222] But I think it's the remotes that has the screen on the steering wheel.

[2223] And as you turn it, the image rotates.

[2224] Can we hear what this thing sounds like?

[2225] Oh, I don't know if they have that exhaust note.

[2226] They must have it.

[2227] Jesus Christ.

[2228] Fuck yeah.

[2229] It sounds like a motorboat.

[2230] I'd have to live in the countryside to drive that.

[2231] There's some video of them driving this thing because this is still being.

[2232] engineered so I think they've only gotten it to 200 miles an hour now which is a slightly detuned version of what it's fully capable of and they have to they have to ramp it up in steps yes I heard about this it was it that car that they yeah it's a Hennessy Venom they're just ringing it in Google Hennessy Venom reaches 200 miles an hour Hennessy Venom reaches 200 miles an hour because they they had it on a track yeah there No, that's not it.

[2233] Is that not it?

[2234] That's an 8 -year -old video.

[2235] Oh, that's the Venom GT.

[2236] That's the other one.

[2237] It has to be the F5.

[2238] That's it.

[2239] Aero -Dynamic testing, that's it.

[2240] So I guess they have to work on the arrow to make sure it doesn't fly.

[2241] Yes.

[2242] You know, like when you go in that fast, so as it ramps up, so this is the aerodynamic.

[2243] Look at it.

[2244] Actually, interior looks good.

[2245] Ooh.

[2246] This is Alex Albonne.

[2247] And so he has gone.

[2248] a nice sound that sounds awesome yeah it does sound like a um yeah it sounds like a i mean it's a racing car obviously but yeah that's driving that fucking thing around can you drive that thing around like why would you but you know what i mean is it legal like i think it's got to be road legal i think it's got to be road legal i think you put a license plate on that thing and go to i think go to hb i think you could yeah salad uh yeah i totally it's just like guys they'll be right back it's like come on man Give a $2 million car in the driveway.

[2249] In that video, the engine was restricted to just 900 horsepower, only 50 % of the full.

[2250] Oh, that's right.

[2251] Right.

[2252] Yes, because they want to bring it to the slowly bring it up to 300 miles an hour.

[2253] So there's engineering involved.

[2254] I actually talked to John Hennessy about it.

[2255] And he's telling me what this crazy task it is to create this thing and how long they've been working on it.

[2256] I mean, between that and then the new Mercedes AMD, What's that?

[2257] It took a Formula One engine and put it in a production car.

[2258] Production road car.

[2259] Oh yeah, check it out.

[2260] What does it look like?

[2261] It's about to come out.

[2262] Yeah, it's gorgeous.

[2263] It's, um, oh, check it out.

[2264] It looks like that.

[2265] It's basically like a large rectangle.

[2266] It's dark and it has a reflection that looks similar to us.

[2267] No, it's like a, it's been in the works for a long time.

[2268] It's got the single fin in the back that time of Formula One.

[2269] one technology or whatever there we go whoa look at this motherfucker this is a Mercedes yeah what be prepared for Formula 1 what is it back that up again so what is this say Formula 1 hybrid technology on the streets what yeah what it can they do they have an image what it looks like Jamie it's so gross it's gross it's it's it's I mean it's just an amazing car Gross in the best way Oh gross in the best way Yeah I mean it's just like an evil Looking piece of machinery Yeah Well I guess when there's Ridiculous rich people You're always gonna create things for them to buy It's got the scoop On the top Active Arrow in the front I guess that active arrow shot that they shot Yeah it's still there Fuck and you can just buy that Yeah you could buy that That's what's nuts is you don't even have to have Like a crazy license No You can get a regular driver's license And you'd buy a 2000 I mean it's it's insane and that new a thousand horsepower maximum speed of over 350 kilometers now what is that in speed oh yeah one to one what is 350 kilometers is what is that i don't know i'm terrible with that shit 100 is 60 so 300 is like one nine two hundred two 17 217 217 217 217 3 50 okay so 350 is 217 yeah that don't we all use the same numbers come on I know.

[2270] At a certain point, well, people argue that horsepower is outdated too, but...

[2271] Yeah, but it sounds good.

[2272] It does sound good.

[2273] Horsepower.

[2274] When people say, like, 500 Newton meters, hey, what are you saying?

[2275] I know.

[2276] It's like, it's got over 5 ,000 Newton meters of force and torque.

[2277] Sorry, talk.

[2278] Yeah.

[2279] And force.

[2280] No, just talk.

[2281] What are you saying, bro?

[2282] What are you talking about?

[2283] Yeah.

[2284] Yeah, the remats is also, like, fucking stupid.

[2285] This car goes zero to 124 miles an hour and under six seconds.

[2286] Yeah.

[2287] That's so nuts.

[2288] Isn't it funny that it's like, it's not necessarily about horsepower?

[2289] You know, it's about, it's about the engineering of how you harness the energy.

[2290] Look at the steering wheel.

[2291] That's pretty sick.

[2292] Yeah, full on race steering wheel.

[2293] I mean, it's like the type of thing, like when you buy it, you have to like sit and take a lesson and like, you know, they have to go through all, oh yeah.

[2294] Those types of cars?

[2295] I mean, obviously, if you were like Lewis Hamilton, or something like that.

[2296] And you're like, I just want it.

[2297] And they're like, here it is.

[2298] See you later.

[2299] But I mean, come on, man. I mean, that thing is just, and I love the permac seats.

[2300] No adjustments whatsoever.

[2301] You can go forward or the pedals come to you and the steering wheel comes to you.

[2302] Probably that, right?

[2303] Yeah.

[2304] Just keep it static.

[2305] That is pretty pretty.

[2306] Just sit on the ground, sort of?

[2307] Yeah, you kind of.

[2308] Basically, it's like a go -car.

[2309] Oh, I see.

[2310] It kind of goes down there.

[2311] Yeah, it's just one piece.

[2312] It's all built in there.

[2313] I mean, it's a...

[2314] Alcantaro.

[2315] The Koenig Seg Jamera also has that kind of like thin static seats.

[2316] And I don't know.

[2317] There's like a...

[2318] And then who's the dude that developed...

[2319] Wow, look at that.

[2320] Oh, God, who...

[2321] He developed a...

[2322] Who's the badass British sports car maker?

[2323] Why can't I remember their name?

[2324] McLaren.

[2325] Yeah, the guy who created the legendary McLaren.

[2326] I can't remember the model name.

[2327] But he has his own shop and he just created...

[2328] created his own hypercar.

[2329] Oh, really?

[2330] Yeah, and it uses this turbine system that there's no down force.

[2331] It's a turbine that basically disturbs or unifies the airflow.

[2332] There you go.

[2333] Oh, look at the back end of that thing.

[2334] That's madness.

[2335] Yeah, so there's no active arrow.

[2336] So there's like this new trend, this is new movement in no active arrow.

[2337] They just like managing air management with this turbine system.

[2338] Whoa.

[2339] Let me see more pictures of that thing.

[2340] God.

[2341] People are going nutty.

[2342] They're going nutty with the vehicles.

[2343] It's so crazy.

[2344] And with hydrogen and electric, you know, like they're kind of vying, they're battling and I don't know.

[2345] And then, of course, Porsche's e -fuel initiative.

[2346] They're really investing in the e -fuels.

[2347] Yeah.

[2348] So, I mean, that could save the internal combustion engine so that, I mean, think about that if there was a breakthrough in e -fuels, you could create hydrogen from recaptured carbon in the atmosphere.

[2349] So the production of, it is completely net zero.

[2350] It's still releasing CO2, but it's net zero.

[2351] It's a beautiful car.

[2352] And it's got the center placement with people on either side of you.

[2353] Oh, wow, that's wild.

[2354] So you got that center cockpit.

[2355] When you want to get out of the car, you have to like say, you've got to get out of the car first, dude, so I can get out of the car.

[2356] I kind of want to see, but see the doors, like it exposes so much, it's pretty easy to get out of.

[2357] You can step into it and almost be standing and then sit down into it.

[2358] That's pretty dope.

[2359] It's a great car, man. There's so many.

[2360] Have you seen the, new Mercedes electric yes the EQS that's amazing gorgeous I actually might consider getting it yeah it's like a it's not a concept car no it's a real car it's a real car EQS edition one it's fucking disgusting it looks kind of like nah I think it looks cool I mean I do think it looks cool but it also kind of looks economical it's like you know but then and you realize it's got the it's got the slip mostly I like that dude yeah Lewis from Unbox therapy did a great video about it where he showed all the tech involved in it's it's insane yeah and all electric doors all the doors are electric so they so they open automatically click on that and go full screen so you could see like the interior is this guy's great oh this guy's videos well he's so and his oriented he's so knowledgeable about this stuff and his zone where he actually films the shit in that gigantic box with the overhead lights I mean look at this fucking thing man I mean I have a ticon and that's like pretty futuristic looking but this is like some how do you like the tycon as far as range because the range is not quite what, like, a Tesla does.

[2361] No, it's about 218, 228 on a...

[2362] Is that okay?

[2363] I don't notice it.

[2364] I charge it at home.

[2365] Right.

[2366] So you just drive around and then charge it at night.

[2367] Yeah.

[2368] I mean, Portia was like, there was an interview, like, an internal video.

[2369] Well, it was like for people, they released on the internet.

[2370] But there was, like, this interview with, like, one of the chief design guys or whatever.

[2371] And the woman asking the questions at what...

[2372] one point was like, are you ever going to, people talk about the range of Teslas, you know, there's obviously the new Tesla Plaid Plus that's coming out with a 520 miles of range.

[2373] Are you ever going to try to achieve those types of numbers for the Taekani?

[2374] He's like, no. He's like, that's not what we focus on performance.

[2375] If the battery technology gets better and the energy density becomes better and we can make the car lighter and that creates efficiency, then awesome.

[2376] But that's not what we're focused on.

[2377] We're focused on driving dynamics and performance.

[2378] and in a way it kind of mimics on electric scale it mimics what sports cars are right they're not fuel efficient there are definitely some pretty relatively efficient supercars and hypercars but they're usually going through like you know nine miles per gallon or something like that 12 miles per gallon um in performance mode in essence that's kind of what's happening with this car it's a performance EV still gets 200 whatever plus miles of range at the top end that the two row s but uh it's not as efficient necessarily or the range isn't there because they're not focused on range.

[2379] They're focused on how do you get those electrons to the motors and how is that expressed and how does it feel to interface with it?

[2380] That's all they care about, which I kind of like.

[2381] It's an honest answer.

[2382] It's not like someday the Tycon will be, it's like they're not coming at it like that.

[2383] Well, Porsche has always been about driving dynamics.

[2384] Always.

[2385] If you drive their SUV, it's a preposterous vehicle.

[2386] Have you ever driven the Cayenne Turbo?

[2387] No, I haven't gone to there.

[2388] It moves so fast.

[2389] It's like, how is this doing this?

[2390] It doesn't even make any sense.

[2391] Yeah, right.

[2392] And they're not necessarily worried about, I mean, they'll worry about efficiency as in emissions, right?

[2393] They'll do the emissions stuff.

[2394] They do that, yes.

[2395] But, you know, to some people's disappointment and the new limitors, but like it definitely are the rev limiters and the, you know, the particulate filters and all this stuff.

[2396] But in general, they're just like, does it feel good on a corner?

[2397] Does it accelerate really well?

[2398] Does it feel stable?

[2399] and do you feel confident behind the wheel?

[2400] It's just about speed and handling and engineering.

[2401] Engineering, yeah.

[2402] It's an engineering.

[2403] And also the interior, the way the ergonomics is set up.

[2404] Yes.

[2405] Magnificent.

[2406] They just dial that in on all their portions.

[2407] It's just so dialed in.

[2408] I use all the buttons.

[2409] There's like, it's crazy on the steering wheel.

[2410] Like, I'm using all of it.

[2411] I'm using regent, you know, off region.

[2412] I'm using, you know, the changing.

[2413] You prefer regent, what that means for folks that are just listening is like when you let your, foot off the gas, it could either absorb energy and reuse the braking.

[2414] So you don't actually break.

[2415] You just let go and it actually slows you down.

[2416] Yeah.

[2417] It's the resistance of the motor.

[2418] So like when there isn't a charge in the applied to the motor, essentially it acts as a generator.

[2419] Right.

[2420] So as long as it's moving, which it still has like motion, you know, or whatever momentum from the car.

[2421] It gives some juice back to the car.

[2422] It gives back.

[2423] Yeah.

[2424] But is it a, it's a kind of a negligible amount, right?

[2425] You're not really getting enough so that you could go.

[2426] How many more extra miles can you get in a day?

[2427] I think you can get like, you know, like five miles or something like that.

[2428] I mean, I'm sure someone knows.

[2429] All day of driving.

[2430] Well, it depends on your driving style, you know.

[2431] But what's interesting about, you know, they call it recuperative, you know, because they're German.

[2432] But what's interesting about their philosophy of the Tycon is they just let it coast.

[2433] Because they believe the energy of the car should be allowed to just continue, right?

[2434] So it coasts like a regular car does, right?

[2435] But you do have a region switch that you can press that adds a light.

[2436] amount of it, right?

[2437] So it's not like the Tesla.

[2438] It's not one pedal driving, which I was used to in my ass, right?

[2439] Yeah.

[2440] But, um, but when you go to sport plus mode, which lowers the car and makes it more aggressive and turns on the sport sound or whatever, uh, there's a pretty aggressive region that I've noticed.

[2441] What's the sport sound?

[2442] It's like a, it's like a, it's like a jetson sound.

[2443] It's super future and it sounds so sick.

[2444] I want to hear it.

[2445] Oh, you got, yeah, you'll, you'll hear it.

[2446] It's, it's, it's awesome.

[2447] When I'm driving that car.

[2448] Why did they have to call it a turbo, though?

[2449] Brandt, marketing, brandy, because you know what, they're claiming it because it's, because, bro, that's pretty, that's pretty badass.

[2450] And it has like fake gear changes, although it is a two -speed gearbox, but you'll hear when you're accelerating, there's at least like four changes, you know, it's just like, it's, it's, it feels like, because you're low, it's aggressive, the PDCC is activated.

[2451] everything is like tight tough and you're just I can go to one I'm going to 155 I don't even notice I mean how much do you like it more than your Tesla tons really yeah tons here's what I like about Tesla Tesla does what they do well is their autopilot is insane that's awesome when I had my model S my P 100 D I loved this fast as fuck but it felt like a video game the steering is just like loose it's like the loosest steering it's just oh overcompensated, electrically powered steering.

[2452] So I'm just like, hey, what's up?

[2453] I'm in a, you know, here's my electric car.

[2454] And it didn't, and then cornering, you could feel that body roll, that heavy car, just like, leaning into it.

[2455] And but the autopilot was amazing.

[2456] Like, you know, I'd set it and just let it drive for a really long time.

[2457] So Porsche doesn't have that, but also Porsche, you buy a Porsche because you want to drive it.

[2458] Right.

[2459] But Porsche, on the other hand, has PDCC.

[2460] It has, um, what's PDCC?

[2461] As the Porsche dynamic chassis control, which is an anti -roll.

[2462] So it's a gear box at the center point of each axle that fights against body roll on taking a hard corner.

[2463] So when I take – there's a dope corner off of Silver Lake, like going into Frogtown or after Frogtown.

[2464] It's a perfect banked, perfect curve.

[2465] I take that at 75.

[2466] I go far outside, cut inside.

[2467] Sometimes I'll have friends in the car, and they're like – they're just freaking.

[2468] fuck out and the car is just like I'm not moving I'm glued to the ground and there's no body roll and you can even put a setting where it shows the amount of body roll that's happening on you know on the on the on the corner and you can set your G meter so you're like pulling like two Gs maybe two G's I've gotten close to two G's yeah because you handles that good yeah you're just cranking on the I mean that thing is like you know it's stops a little slower because it's so heavy right It's got gigantic, gigantic carpet ceramic brakes with 10 piston calipers in the front.

[2469] 10?

[2470] 10, yeah.

[2471] And I think it's six in the back or four in the back, someone will correct me. But it's, I've never even heard of 10 piston.

[2472] It's crazy.

[2473] It's crazy.

[2474] I think, I hope I have that right.

[2475] But anyways, it's a monster.

[2476] And when I'm taking that corner, it just feels like it's just so solid, so rock solid.

[2477] And my 9 -11 corners like that, too, in a different way.

[2478] But to have a car that's 5 ,200 pounds, take a corner.

[2479] that fast and feel like, no problem, no sweat.

[2480] Wow.

[2481] Car's like, yeah, whatever.

[2482] And rear wheel steering and torque vectoring.

[2483] Fuck, dude, now you got me excited.

[2484] Yeah, I love it.

[2485] I personally love it, and I think, like, Portia nails that synergistic, the Venn diagram of like, practical, I mean, to an extent.

[2486] Practical, usable every day, high performance, super badass build quality.

[2487] Look at that, too.

[2488] It's beautiful.

[2489] And mine's in coffee beige.

[2490] Ooh, coffee beige, I like it.

[2491] Coffee beige, and then I have the carbon wheels, which are kind of like a hybrid carbon ceramic.

[2492] Or sorry, not sorry, carbon wheels.

[2493] Carbon fiber wheels.

[2494] Now, when it comes to charging, is it as fast to charge?

[2495] Those are wheels.

[2496] Those are dope wheels.

[2497] They're hybrid.

[2498] It's a metal frame with carbon fiber accents.

[2499] Is it as fast to charge as your Tesla was?

[2500] That's so funny.

[2501] I think that's like the test model.

[2502] I was like the pre -release, like, you know, camouflaged, whatever.

[2503] Oh, yeah.

[2504] How weird was a face on that?

[2505] Yeah, that's not the right.

[2506] That's the same thing.

[2507] But what were you saying?

[2508] Fast charging.

[2509] Charging, yeah.

[2510] Ten hours with, I forget, the kilowatt on board charger, about 10 hours.

[2511] You can get a slightly faster, higher capacity on board charger that'll at home charge you in full to four to five hours.

[2512] But then you're using level three chargers out in the wild, so you're getting like 350.

[2513] It's got the 800 -volt architecture, which Tesla's running 400.

[2514] 400.

[2515] So they're running 800.

[2516] Lusid Air is running 900.

[2517] But the reason for that is that you have bandwidth.

[2518] You have the possibility of really jamming those electrons in at a high rate of speed.

[2519] So technically you could charge almost a full in like 15, 20 minutes from 5 % state of charge to 80, 85%.

[2520] In 20 minutes.

[2521] About 20 minutes.

[2522] And that's with 800.

[2523] That's with an 800 volt architecture or 900 like Lucid has.

[2524] Now these charging stations, they don't have the same kind of grid that Tesla has in terms of the supercharger availability, right?

[2525] Where you could...

[2526] No, the coverage is not as extensive, but pretty decent.

[2527] Yeah?

[2528] Pretty decent.

[2529] And Electrify America's doing a lot.

[2530] You know, that's the one that Porsche's invested in.

[2531] You can't use a Tesla charger, right?

[2532] You can't, not yet.

[2533] Although it's funny, I put in a Tesla, a Porsche charger in my garage for my Tycon.

[2534] And it's so complicated.

[2535] It's like, you plug it in, it's got to go online, then you put in an access code, And then it has to go online again to verify.

[2536] Then it communicates with the car, and then it starts charging.

[2537] I still have my Tesla charger in the garage.

[2538] And I take the Tesla charger with an adapter that goes to the right end.

[2539] I forget there's like so many names for the charger ends.

[2540] And then you just plug it into the Taekon and just starts charging.

[2541] Really?

[2542] And I'm like, why is that?

[2543] Why did you make that so complicated, Porsche?

[2544] So if you go to a Tesla charging station and you bring...

[2545] You can't do that because it's got a chip in the end that communicates with the car.

[2546] It says, this is a Tesla.

[2547] I'm sure someone's going to hack it.

[2548] You know, like, they'll put one on the Tycon or everything.

[2549] So, like, we have Tesla chargers in the garage here.

[2550] If you got a Tycon, you don't need to change it out.

[2551] Oh, you just get the adapter.

[2552] Yeah, I think it's made by a company called Electron.

[2553] It's Electron or something like that.

[2554] What do you think, Jamie?

[2555] I think I need to try one of those.

[2556] I think I don't want to make my boyfriend Elon mad, though.

[2557] Oh, you know what?

[2558] Here's the deal.

[2559] I'm going to get the Plaid Plus.

[2560] I probably will get the Plaid Plus.

[2561] Well, it's going to go 1 .9 seconds zero.

[2562] 1 .9 to 1 .8.

[2563] It's like roadster fast.

[2564] So I want to experience it.

[2565] And I want to experience that autopilot because that shit.

[2566] I mean, back in the day, I was using that 70, 75 % of the time.

[2567] And that was like early versions.

[2568] Well, one of the great things about innovation and competition is that when other companies step up and make something even better, it forces the original company to catch up.

[2569] Totally.

[2570] So maybe, well, obviously, Tesla is going to have that insane looking roadster.

[2571] Yes.

[2572] That roadster is going to be a preposter.

[2573] vehicle.

[2574] Oh, totally.

[2575] So I'm sure that's going to handle off the charts.

[2576] I think it will be.

[2577] I mean, Tesla can get to that point.

[2578] But when you're talking about legacy car makers, like Porsche, it's like...

[2579] Right.

[2580] That's their game.

[2581] Just, you know, let them have it.

[2582] Their jam.

[2583] It's fine.

[2584] Their jam is handling.

[2585] Yeah, it's like...

[2586] Handling, driving dynamics.

[2587] There is no substitute.

[2588] It's totally true.

[2589] It's totally true.

[2590] And you're still like, you're paying like $2 .50 for a fully loaded.

[2591] And then there's also the Porsche Tycon Cross Turismo, which is the wagon version of the Tycon.

[2592] Oh, I haven't seen that.

[2593] Check it out.

[2594] It's worth it.

[2595] It's a, it's, it's, it's, some people say it's, it's, I mean, they don't call it a wagon.

[2596] They call it a cross -turismo, but it's like essentially.

[2597] What does that word even mean?

[2598] It's, it's a crossover and it's a slightly higher ray suspension, and it's got rock guards on it.

[2599] So it's kind of like an outback.

[2600] It's like a Tycon outback, essentially.

[2601] So there's the cross -terismo.

[2602] Oh, it's disgusting.

[2603] I hate it.

[2604] Yeah.

[2605] There's a better, there's a better color.

[2606] There's actually Neptune blue, which looks a bit.

[2607] So those are the rock guards on the bottom.

[2608] rock guards how weird is that okay that's not terrible that's that's the regular that's the regular so if you go to yeah cross -terism out give me some other colors on this Jesus Christ oh there you go that's not as bad but it's still offensive I like I prefer I prefer the saloon man oh there you go there's that color I think it's a handsome color it's okay you know let me see the green with the black tram you need black trim on that no roof I saw a green Ferrari 488 like a like a metallic green.

[2609] I don't know if it was a wrap or what.

[2610] But it was candy apple or just like?

[2611] Yes, like a candy apple green.

[2612] It was fucking beautiful.

[2613] 750 horsepower.

[2614] 2 .7 seconds, 0 to 60.

[2615] Yeah.

[2616] Where's the, where's the Tycon, like the saloon version, 2 .4.

[2617] 2 .4, 2 .3.

[2618] Why don't they make a coupe?

[2619] A coupé.

[2620] I know.

[2621] I would love, well, you know what?

[2622] I think there's going to, we're going to see a really dangerous, disgusting example of engineering soon from Porsche.

[2623] I think we're going to see, I think we're going to see, like, the next 918.

[2624] I think there's going to be, it's not priority right now, but you know in the back room they're already designing it, because the hybrid technology is going to be insane.

[2625] Yeah.

[2626] Plus, solid state battery technology might be available by then.

[2627] So you've got higher energy density, smaller scale, lighter car, plus it's hybrid.

[2628] Yeah.

[2629] We're going to, things are going to be disgusting.

[2630] At a certain point, cars are just like, they're not going to be made for humans.

[2631] Robots are going to pilot them because you're going to black out.

[2632] just going to move zero to 60.

[2633] Yeah, the capabilities.

[2634] I mean, imagine if you could go back into the 1960s and bring someone to 2021, show them what a car is now.

[2635] I mean, they just wouldn't understand it.

[2636] They'd be like, why?

[2637] Yeah.

[2638] I mean, or maybe or why they'd just, or they'd be so terrified.

[2639] Yeah, they'd be terrified.

[2640] They'd never understand.

[2641] I mean, we're going to have to wear flight suits, you know, those suits that have like that fluid layer, you know?

[2642] So, like, as you move, it's like the fluid moves up to compress the upper extremities of your body to keep you from blacking up.

[2643] Have you ever flown in a fighter jet?

[2644] No. Experienced it?

[2645] It's wild.

[2646] Have you been in a jet jet?

[2647] Yeah, I went in the FAA 18.

[2648] Oh yeah, a hornet, right?

[2649] Oh, no, FAA 18s are not hornets.

[2650] I don't know if you're on.

[2651] Anyways.

[2652] But I think that's the name of the jet.

[2653] Yeah.

[2654] They took me up in one of them flights.

[2655] It's wild, dude.

[2656] It's hard to imagine that human beings do this and then they're getting shot at and they're banking and trying to stay conscious while they're having dog fights.

[2657] Oh, my God, I know.

[2658] And plus with, like, the new, the new, you know, fifth -gen jets that have, like, torque -victory, or not torque -vectoring, I'm saying torque -victory.

[2659] They have thrust vectoring.

[2660] So, like, the engines themselves can independently create the nozzles, can create different angles.

[2661] So that's why you get, that's why you get, like, raptors doing this.

[2662] Wow.

[2663] They go up and down.

[2664] Yeah, they can, like, they can propel upward, and they can almost stay stationary.

[2665] And you just see, like, it's just like all the air surfaces just like, whatever.

[2666] And the Sucoys are also, their fifth -gen fighters do that as well.

[2667] This thrust factoring.

[2668] It's insane, man. I mean, they're able to, like, bank and add thrust factoring.

[2669] So you're, it's like having rear -wheel steering, like, on whatever, sports cars.

[2670] It's the same thing.

[2671] So the navigation capabilities just off the charts.

[2672] I mean, it's like to be able to turn around on a target, you know, like if someone's chasing you.

[2673] There you go.

[2674] Check this out.

[2675] Look how cool.

[2676] So it's going up.

[2677] This is straight.

[2678] And you can see it slow down, and then it's going to change its orientation.

[2679] There you go.

[2680] What?

[2681] So now, uh, look at that.

[2682] Back down, yeah.

[2683] Look at that.

[2684] Look how thin it is, too.

[2685] I mean, you see all the air surface is working.

[2686] It's just, I love, I love that.

[2687] If you saw that, you would assume that's from another planet.

[2688] I mean, it's just, it's just insane what they can do with these things.

[2689] And these are, like, low, fairly low speeds.

[2690] And they, it's just how powerful those motors are, those Raptor engines are.

[2691] And they also have, like, a low heat signature.

[2692] It's, I mean, it's crazy.

[2693] Look at that.

[2694] Look at that.

[2695] It's so crazy.

[2696] It just seems fake.

[2697] It just feels fake.

[2698] It just like it's pausing and then flattening out and then diving down.

[2699] And they can do flat spins or the whole body of plane, it's level, but it's just rotating as it's descending.

[2700] And so imagine as a weapons platform, it's just rotating in the air, just firing weapons.

[2701] I mean, I'm sure that's not how they would use it, but you could.

[2702] It would look cool in a movie.

[2703] It would look cool in a movie and a lot of complaining pilots.

[2704] anyways i mean technology my friend so many people so so many smart people out there so little time and i just you know science art engineering that's my priority i think that's all that you need to ever need to worry about well i know well i love the fact that you have those combining interest that you're such a a techno techno file as well as an audio file a musician and a comedian and all these things kind of pile in together yeah man i i i love it i just like why not man let's why not It's fucking get people excited about all the shit you can get excited.

[2705] Yeah.

[2706] Well, listen, brother, it's always a pleasure.

[2707] I'm glad we got to do it.

[2708] What a blast, man. Come down here and do it in Austin.

[2709] Yeah, thanks for having me at your Austin joint, man. My pleasure.

[2710] My pleasure.

[2711] And congratulations.

[2712] This is a great city, man. I love it here.

[2713] I love it here.

[2714] And when we open up the comedy club, you've got to come down.

[2715] Oh, I'm so there.

[2716] All right.

[2717] I'm so there.

[2718] Great.

[2719] Best half an hour in my life.

[2720] Always fun.

[2721] Always fun.

[2722] Reggie Watts, ladies and gentlemen.

[2723] The Jirogan Experience.

[2724] You know,