#165 - Bruce Lipton (Part 1)

[0] Welcome.

[1] This is a mess.

[2] The show's a mess right away.

[3] I apologize.

[4] We're dealing with a serious man here.

[5] We can't even get our shit together.

[6] Bruce Lipton, the author of The Biology of Belief.

[7] And we're going to learn some shit today, freaks, because I talked to Bruce Lipton for about 30 seconds before this podcast started, and I already was, like, too anxious to get the commercials out of the way.

[8] Because this is a fascinating, fascinating subject to me, and you are a guy who actually has, like, letters next to your name.

[9] So, like, people are going to listen to you.

[10] It says, Ph .D., this guy knows what the fuck he's talking about, right?

[11] It's not like, if I write a book, the biology of believe, Joe Rogan, comedian, Fear Factor, host.

[12] Nobody's going to give a fuck, all right?

[13] But you, you, sir, you command respect with your ideas.

[14] I tell you, I am the happiest guy ever because all of this stuff was new to me. I never believed in it when I was doing my research.

[15] So to find out things like the concept of a spirit and an energy, and how the mind controls life when I was teaching genes control life and it was like, boy, is that an error?

[16] Boy, is that wrong?

[17] Out.

[18] So consciousness, you believe controls life?

[19] No, I believe.

[20] Consciousness actually does control life and it's very simple to understand it.

[21] And what you really start to find out is that our consciousness either enhances us like a placebo effect or the same consciousness can take away your strength and kill you, which is called a nocebo effect.

[22] It's actually a name for that.

[23] So it's the power of your thinking, and the thinking is, who are we?

[24] And we've been programmed to believe that we're frail and vulnerable, you know, like all kinds of things are out there to get us, and we have to protect ourselves and all that.

[25] And it's like, this is totally insane because we're so powerful that we even don't believe it.

[26] It's just amazing things.

[27] Like, okay, you can say something simple like walking across hot coals.

[28] Okay, it's like you can walk across hot coals if you believe you can do it, but you can't do it if you don't believe you can't walk.

[29] across the coals and so belief comes into it or joe i mean you're a big health guy and all this stuff so i asked you can you if we go out here in the parking lot can you lift up a car i mean you got a lot of training and stuff like that but you think you could lift up a car no well interesting i got so many articles from around the world about women lifting up cars when a when a baby or their child is trapped under the car and this is all true because i have these stories too but i never really googled them no no they're absolutely true and there's large numbers of them and what does that mean?

[30] It means like this untrained, unathletic woman could go out there and lift up the car.

[31] Okay.

[32] And so that's like, that's pretty neat.

[33] But here's one I really think it's cool.

[34] Down south, there's this Baptist, fundamentalist kind of people that get into in a religious ecstasy state.

[35] And they do what they call testify that God protects them.

[36] So they believe that God protects them.

[37] And so what do they do?

[38] They do strange crap like they handle snakes like rattles snakes and copperhead snakes.

[39] They're snake handlers.

[40] So they get bitten by the snakes.

[41] Nothing happens when they're in this state of belief.

[42] But those are the lightways.

[43] The serious ones are the ones they drink strychnine in toxic doses to demonstrate, to show the proof that God protects them.

[44] They drink this absolute poison.

[45] No harmful effects.

[46] Wow.

[47] No harmful effects.

[48] Brian, it's the most I mean they're insane -looking people when they do it but the fact is they drink poison but it's in the belief system.

[49] So this is all stuff that's been documented.

[50] Oh, yeah.

[51] Where's your initial background as a scientist?

[52] What did you?

[53] I trained as a cell biologist and I started doing cell cultures back on stem cells in 1967.

[54] That's like, that's so long ago.

[55] That's 40, some years ago, right?

[56] And the thing was, there was just a handful of us in entire world working on stem cells at that time.

[57] And the results from those studies, were so completely different than what I was teaching medical students about how life worked, about how genes control life, because it showed that genes did not control the biology.

[58] Genes did not control it.

[59] The control is how a cell or an organism responds to the environment.

[60] So an organism becomes a complement to their environment.

[61] And you say, well, why is that important?

[62] I said, well, if you live in a crappy environment, then your biology becomes crap.

[63] And the issue is, is it the real environment?

[64] It's actually the mental environment.

[65] So that's why it's so important, and everyone sort of knows this, but it's so important to surround yourself with positive people and not be around a bunch of energy vampires.

[66] Because there's people that are caught in a downward spiral, and if you are with them, their gravity can bring you into a shitty place.

[67] That's an absolute truth.

[68] That's a quantum physics aspect to who we are.

[69] There's more than this physical reality, and energy is actually who we are.

[70] So the flow of energy determines how we are.

[71] Isn't it funny, though, that that idea is so easily dismissed?

[72] It seems like such a woo -woo idea.

[73] You know, I can tell you why.

[74] It's money.

[75] They're scared of it.

[76] It's money.

[77] Well, it's also fear.

[78] Well, it might be fear, but I'll tell you more so is very simply, the science that we have in the textbooks today is more or less a product of paid advertising from the pharmaceutical company.

[79] And the significance of why I mean that is, let me ask you a question, Joe.

[80] Obviously, are you aware there's much more effective ways to create energy besides burning fossil fuel?

[81] I mean, you know, I'm not really aware of all the options.

[82] But there are, aren't there?

[83] I mean, solar and all this other kinds of...

[84] I mean, I know about solar, but I don't know if solar necessarily generates enough energy to replace it right now.

[85] Well, that's our technology.

[86] But the question is, we have all this new technology, and the question is why are we still so preoccupied with burning fossil fuel?

[87] Because it's not in the interest of the patronage.

[88] petroleum company to support anything that would take away the sale of their product.

[89] They sell oil.

[90] What good is it?

[91] And then I say, now here's the exact parallel.

[92] It's like you can heal yourself with energy.

[93] You can heal yourself with thoughts.

[94] You can hear yourself with the right vibrational food and everything else around by dealing with the vibration part.

[95] So you say, well, we know this for a thousand years.

[96] Why isn't it recognized by the world?

[97] And the answer is, it's not in the interest of an industry that sells drugs.

[98] because if I can heal you for free, then what are you going to do with the drug market?

[99] Do you think that's, I mean, do you think they're suppressing it, or do you think there's just never been any evidence demonstrated that it works on any sort of a large, measurable level?

[100] There's quite a bit of evidence, but it's really evidence that's not talked about in the public, and it's very difficult to publish.

[101] I'm sure there is, but what I mean is it's not like it's in their face and they're trying to suppress it.

[102] You know what I mean?

[103] I think it's just, I think a lot of people are just ignorant to the idea.

[104] I don't know if it's being suppressed as much as just, A lot of people really don't know how things work.

[105] Absolutely.

[106] Absolutely.

[107] But then the limitation of what are we being programmed with?

[108] What are the beliefs that you, what beliefs did you get programmed with about your life?

[109] For a very simple reason, if you get down to the simple understanding how your mind controls your genetics and your biological behavior, then you have to recognize.

[110] Then the question is, what programs have you been programmed with?

[111] Because those are the programs that are going to shape your life.

[112] And the belief system is, can you drink strychnine, Joe?

[113] Yes or no?

[114] The answer is, well, if you don't believe you can, then don't go there, you know.

[115] Or if you have any doubts at all.

[116] Yeah.

[117] Belief like that is like pregnancy.

[118] You either believe it or you don't believe it, but there's no like, geez, I almost really believe this.

[119] It's not going to work.

[120] Do you think it's fascinating that a lot of the people that are pushing that belief are actually, they actually are caught up in it themselves?

[121] You know, the people that are suppressing information.

[122] Yes.

[123] people that are, you know, they, even if they're aware of it.

[124] Yes.

[125] You know, they're actually, they're doing it to themselves as well.

[126] That's the, that's why you can't say there's a conspiracy at some level.

[127] No, it's not a conspiracy.

[128] It's self -interest.

[129] Yeah.

[130] It's self -interest.

[131] This is my interest.

[132] This is my belief.

[133] Look, there are a lot of religious people out there trying to shape my behavior today, right?

[134] Right.

[135] It's like, that's their behavior.

[136] You know, they're trying to shape my behavior with it.

[137] It's sort of like the science people that tell their science are almost like religious people that say this is our story.

[138] And the fact is you, but there's a bigger story than what you saw in the book.

[139] So is it just that it's not measurable?

[140] I mean...

[141] No, it's measurable.

[142] I can show you hundreds of papers on all kinds of things about electromagnetic fields that vibrational fields can control every function of the cell.

[143] They can control the synthesis of DNA.

[144] It can control the cell division.

[145] It can control what we call differentiation, where like an embryonic cell becomes a muscle cell or a bone cell.

[146] It controls the organization.

[147] of cells.

[148] There are demonstrations of this all the time.

[149] Vibrational frequencies with exact frequencies cause cells to have very specific biological responses.

[150] So if it was up to you, would this be something that they would be teaching kids in school, like on a regular basis, to try to explain at a very early age how important it is to think in a positive way and act in a positive way and surround yourself with positive people that it's not just a luxury that you're looking.

[151] I just want to settle down and be around.

[152] where it's quiet.

[153] It's not that, but it actually is like you can establish your environment.

[154] It comes down to a simple point.

[155] We are creating this life that's in front of us at this moment.

[156] This is a creation.

[157] And this is the nature of what quantum mechanics.

[158] So look, quantum mechanics came up with a very simple problem and said, wait, is the fundamental particle that makes an atom?

[159] Is it physical or is it vibrational?

[160] Is it a particle like a piece of something, or is it just a vibrational feel?

[161] And the answer came out, because it can't be both.

[162] One's solid, and the other one's an energy wave, right?

[163] And yet it comes out when they do the experiment, if you think it's a particle and you design the experiment to see a particle, you see a particle.

[164] If you think it's a wave and design an experiment to determine a wave, then you see it as a wave.

[165] And the question, well, how can it be a wave and a particle?

[166] You can't be both at the same time.

[167] the conclusion of the physicist, and this is fundamental, is that it's the observer that's determining that reality.

[168] It's the way you look at it.

[169] But how far does that go?

[170] Does it go to car accidents and animal attacks?

[171] How much this will we create it?

[172] Well, this is a co -participation.

[173] So we're creating, but we're also participating in the creation.

[174] So it's not a single event.

[175] I mean, if it was a single event, I say, okay let's end all this war and crap and let's clean up this place let's have a good time my voice is a single voice obviously just didn't change anything right but if you get enough voices say the same thing then what you're doing is you're amplifying the field the more people that are in tune with the same voice it becomes a crowd response it's like even like in soccer games in europe when they get crazy they always break out into these big fights and stuff like that a pacifist sitting in the middle of you know one of those vegan pacifist guys sitting in the middle, if there's a fight that breaks out all around, they'll be caught up in the energy of a crowd response.

[176] And it won't be their consciousness that's controlling them then.

[177] Now they're just caught in the field, and they will pick up a chair and club somebody over the head with it like anybody else in that field, even though at that moment when they were being conscious, they were a pacifist.

[178] But once they got caught in a field, they became part of the field.

[179] So the issue is, what field are we living in right now?

[180] And the field is, it's in a state of flux, and this is really critical because your audience is so involved with this upheaval that's happening right now, changing the fields, that there's an evolution going on, and it really is going to be a fine subdivision between like the 40s and unders and the people over 40.

[181] I think you're going to be a separation at some point, except there are a lot are wonderful old people, like myself, old people.

[182] Do you think the Internet has anything to do with it?

[183] The Internet has about the age group that the Internet.

[184] The Internet has everything to do with it.

[185] The Internet is the nervous system of a new organism.

[186] What's evolving.

[187] Here's what's important.

[188] Sometimes we think, oh, when humans evolve, well, how are they going to be evolved?

[189] They're going to get bigger heads and, you know, change their bodies.

[190] It's like, no, no, look, the human evolved.

[191] That's done.

[192] Cockroach evolved.

[193] The cockroach evolved 600 million years ago.

[194] It's still the same cockroach.

[195] The human evolved.

[196] It's going to stay the same human.

[197] The evolution is not of the human.

[198] It's of the community of humans.

[199] Each human is the equivalent of a cell in the body of a superorganism called humanity.

[200] The evolution is the evolution of humanity.

[201] That's why the Arab Spring.

[202] That's why the breakdown of politics all over the place.

[203] That's why the thing is falling apart.

[204] People all over the world are recognizing we're all people in the same thing called humanity.

[205] And so we have to break free of the limitations that we have been programmed with.

[206] And in that breaking free, which means changing the thoughts, changing the beliefs, getting into a new understanding, we are on the threshold of an evolution that's so amazing.

[207] And what's interesting is if people look around right now, they're scared to death.

[208] And I'm going, you don't understand.

[209] Again, this is the most important stage.

[210] The simple reason is this.

[211] The institutions that have provided for us up to this point that helped get us here, they were important for a period of time.

[212] Economics, education, health care, politics, religion, all those things were helpful to get to a certain point.

[213] Now they're destructive because their belief systems end up having us destroy the planet.

[214] So this is a simple fact.

[215] This is not, I'm just saying it, this is a fact.

[216] Science has recognized we are deep into the six mass extinction of life on this planet.

[217] Five times in the history of this planet, life got essentially wiped out and started all over again.

[218] Those are called mass extinctions, such as like a comet or asteroid hitting the planet, destroying the environment, wiping out life, start all over again.

[219] This is the sixth one.

[220] This is a fact.

[221] we are losing species of organisms faster than recorded history or unrecorded history, as we know right now.

[222] Meaning we're accelerating the loss of the biosphere right now.

[223] Why is this important is because we're part of that extinction.

[224] And now here's the neat part about it.

[225] The source of our extinction is human behavior.

[226] Simple as that.

[227] We are so undermining the environment.

[228] We were created from the environment.

[229] You know, religious people will tell you, oh, oh, they created the environment, and then they stuck humans on top, Genesis kind of story.

[230] Scientists will say, oh, it was just an accident of genetics mutations that were here, and it's like, no, every organism was an integral part of the evolution of a larger, the biosphere is the living organism.

[231] We're part of it.

[232] Well, if we're part of the biosphere, we're derived from the biosphere, then there's a simple logical question.

[233] If you destroy the biosphere, what the hell are your chances of surviving?

[234] And the answer is, no. And that's exactly what science has shown us that we are now have passed a very critical point in destroying the environment, threatening our own survival.

[235] I mean, a simple fact that's scary, if you think about it, within 30 years, there will be no fish in the ocean at the rate we're going right now.

[236] It's like, that's almost like science fiction story.

[237] That's crazy.

[238] Yeah.

[239] So why is it important?

[240] Because the conclusion is human behavior is causing it.

[241] And Einstein, he had a great saying Einstein, And I said, you can't solve the problems with the same thinking that created the problems.

[242] Well, the institutions that we are living by today are the cause of the problem.

[243] So the crash of the institutions is a necessary step in the evolution because you can't build a sustainable world on those belief systems.

[244] They're the systems that are causing the destruction of the environment that we live in now.

[245] Do you ever consider the possibility that all behavior, all life on this planet is natural and that there's a reason why people are so selfish and so destructive and yet so also so ambitious and so prone to technological creations and and pushing things forward?

[246] It's almost like it's almost like that's what we're supposed to do.

[247] It's a strange thing.

[248] It's almost like to be as ambitious as people.

[249] people are to create for technological innovation.

[250] Today they're announcing that they may have spotted the Higgs -Bosson particle or Bosen Bosen particle.

[251] They may have spotted.

[252] They don't know.

[253] They have, like, evidence they have to go over.

[254] I mean, this is, right?

[255] At the peak of human innovation, it seems like, it almost seems like we have to be this fucked up to do it this way.

[256] You know, and this is what we're driven to do.

[257] Is that possible?

[258] Like, every other animal has like a natural pattern of behavior.

[259] Is it possible that the human animal's natural pattern of behavior is to almost like give birth to some technological creation?

[260] Okay, there's two parts to that question.

[261] The answer to technological innovation is indeed the evolution process itself.

[262] Think about this.

[263] We have a tendency when we're humans to look down at everything less than human is not being as intelligent, right?

[264] Right.

[265] And then I'm going to tell you, you're made out of 50 trillion cells like amoebas, 50 trillion amoebas living in a community.

[266] They created a technology to make a human body.

[267] They created technology.

[268] The amoebas did.

[269] The amoebas did.

[270] They created the structure for us.

[271] The body was created by these cells.

[272] We can't even reproduce the technology of the cells because they're far greater efficient than we are.

[273] Matter of fact, that would be our direction of evolutions is to see what they've done.

[274] But why is this important?

[275] Because the technology is part of the evolution.

[276] The idea of technology is simple.

[277] Can we live in the so -called, you know, if you want to use like a garden of Eden.

[278] There was a garden here before we destroyed it.

[279] And the fact is, you know, if you want to live in the garden without destroying the garden, technology is a requirement because it reduces the footprint so we can live here without devastating the environment around us.

[280] Okay.

[281] So that technology is a built and drive.

[282] Is the behavior that we're expressing during this part of that?

[283] No, the behavior is programmed.

[284] What you're talking about is the manifestation of Darwinian theory as a scientific fact, which it isn't.

[285] But it, but it's, but it.

[286] But what's the basis theory?

[287] It says life is a struggle for survival with a competition for fitness.

[288] And what does it mean?

[289] It's that every day you go out there and struggle to beat the other guy.

[290] Why?

[291] Because the theory says if you don't struggle with the other guy, they'll beat you.

[292] So you have to beat them first.

[293] And we've been playing that game since Darwin.

[294] Right.

[295] And that's the competition game.

[296] That's the competition game.

[297] And the garden was, if you think about it, a garden doesn't survive by competition.

[298] A garden survives by cooperation.

[299] As a matter of fact, that's what the evolution is all about.

[300] cooperation in the biosphere and we're the most uncooperative life form in the garden isn't the argument to that that the competition is what breeds the innovation um well that's why you know I I said that you know I don't agree with it necessarily I don't know I and I don't want to say yes or no but I will say this that there was a good reason for living this way to a certain point because it got us to a certain point right but continuing that process is where the problem comes from and you see that that is the the recognition of that is why the whole human race seems to be like putting the brakes right now on this conventional culture, putting the brakes on this, society that we've accepted up to this point, it doesn't seem like people want to accept it anymore.

[301] It seems like people are not sustainable.

[302] Yeah, they're seeing that it's ridiculous and they're seeing that our leaders aren't really leading us.

[303] Absolutely.

[304] And they're seeing that everyone seems to be bought and paid off.

[305] And everyone's hitting the brakes.

[306] Everyone's going, stop, stop this thing.

[307] Exactly.

[308] Stop it.

[309] Stop it.

[310] Stop it.

[311] Stop it.

[312] Yeah.

[313] Because it's time to build something that that takes into consideration, not the, the few that possess the power.

[314] You see, look, we can talk about, and I talk about the biology and the nature of the mind controlling the behavior and the biology of women lifting cars, drinking strychnine, the powerful nature you are.

[315] Do we know what actually physically does, is it adrenaline?

[316] What is it the actual physical thing that happens to their body that allows them to do amazing things?

[317] It's exactly the same thing that the strychnine drinker has.

[318] Absolute belief that there's no what Mike Child is under this car.

[319] There's not even a concept though.

[320] Can I lift the car?

[321] She never asked that in her head.

[322] it was I'm lifting the car because my baby's under the car.

[323] It's absolute belief.

[324] It's the same as walking across the hot coals, the drinking the strychnine, lifting the car, the things you have that absolute belief in, you can do powerful things beyond anything, except that's what I said.

[325] Go back and look at our programming.

[326] Our programming is we've been programmed to perceive ourselves as frail and vulnerable.

[327] In fact, we're farthest thing from that, except for this.

[328] And this is an interesting story about the upheaval.

[329] And that goes like this.

[330] You look at the world and you say, look, am I powerful?

[331] Maybe, okay, I'm not so powerful.

[332] Boy, there's some very powerful people over there.

[333] And then you might say, well, how did they get to be so powerful?

[334] This is the joke, and it's on us.

[335] They didn't get more powerful.

[336] They just took away the power from us.

[337] We've been programmed to be disempowered.

[338] And the fact is that's what...

[339] You think this has been a conscious thing?

[340] It's been propagated.

[341] Look, but do you...

[342] I'll give you.

[343] Here's a fact.

[344] Think about it this way.

[345] The Jesuits have boasted for 500 years.

[346] They said, give me a child until it's six or seven, and it will belong to the church for the rest of their lives.

[347] What did they know?

[348] They already knew that if I get the first six years of programming, I own your life.

[349] They knew that.

[350] They boasted about it.

[351] And why is that important?

[352] You think that's a minor thing that just would have slipped away in history that you can control the population by programming the first six years of their lives?

[353] The thing is, hey, Kidding me?

[354] That's fundamental to the leadership of whoever is in leadership capacity.

[355] And if you want to reference, think about this.

[356] There's a book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad.

[357] And this is a book about empowerment and disempowerment.

[358] And what's the point?

[359] People from poor families will grow up and remain poor, and people from rich families will generally grow up and remain rich.

[360] Is it genetics?

[361] No. It's the programming that the rich give to their family, which is completely the opposite of the programming the poor give to their family.

[362] It's not the individual.

[363] It's not the person.

[364] It's the programming.

[365] And this is not new.

[366] This is 500 years of boasting that fact.

[367] Not much.

[368] I mean, they didn't keep it a secret.

[369] They actually said this.

[370] You just give me the kid for six years.

[371] It belongs to the church for the rest of its life.

[372] They knew.

[373] It's kind of like this whole theory.

[374] Hey, Brian, I'm sorry.

[375] I'm going to interrupt you real quick.

[376] It's really fucking loud in that other room, man. It's picking up on this mic and it's going to come through the podcast.

[377] At the master, that's, I mean, it sounds fine.

[378] But you don't hear it?

[379] Isn't it distracting?

[380] No. Okay, it's distracting to me. Turn down your headphones.

[381] Your headphones are really loud.

[382] How do I do that?

[383] But the whole, follow the street.

[384] The whole thing with it kind of follows the fish in the fish tank, or like how big is the fish tank, how big the fish is going to grow almost.

[385] It's like kind of the same thing.

[386] You know, like, well, like, in some ways.

[387] Like, the fish knows its environment.

[388] so it's going to grow I mean does it have anything to do with that at all well it's basically they know their world and they read their world and we're having problems recognizing our own world we've been programmed not to be sensitive to the experience that's why indigenous people the Indians the Aborigines all these people man they can tell you where the water is even if you can't see it's under the ground they can tell you what's going on in their world around them we are so disconnected we have no idea but how did this happen do you think that this is a natural occurrence.

[389] You think that this was, that this all happened because this is the way we would be so innovative.

[390] This is the way we would push forward, push forward regardless of the health and safety of each other and of the planet itself.

[391] Yeah, it's an unfortunate situation because you have to go back and say, when did this group of individuals, which isn't a large group at that, decided at one point they were helping us as parents.

[392] I'm helping you guys.

[393] I, I know.

[394] know more than you, so I'm going to help you become better, okay?

[395] But there is a point where maybe their knowledge is not, is so limited that they're thinking inside the box when the knowledge is outside the box.

[396] So the question is, is it a conspiracy because they want to control us, or is it a conspiracy, not as such, but like a parent saying, look, the people don't know what the hell they're doing.

[397] We've got to help them.

[398] We've got to guide them and all that.

[399] It's a toss -up.

[400] Was this conspiracy or helping?

[401] I have no, you know, the whole idea is this.

[402] They're involved with either of those two reasons.

[403] They're the problem that we have right now because their thinking is not up to the current awareness of science.

[404] And you say, but why is that relevant?

[405] The answer is simple.

[406] It's like the world we live in sees truth based on whether science says it's true or not.

[407] This is true?

[408] Oh, science said so, yeah, it must be true.

[409] Well, if the science is limited, then the knowledge is power, lack of knowledge, lack of power.

[410] if the science is not fully knowledgeable and limits it to that little narrow knowledge then we've limited our power and the fact is there's new science that undermines all this stuff that you learned in school all this stuff I taught in medical school that science is in the last 15 years man it's a revolution and the revolution is the rebels in the front the old guard is still in the back with the old textbooks with outdated information.

[411] It's totally outdated.

[412] Does it become an ego issue at that point?

[413] People are teaching one thing for their whole life and then they don't want to change?

[414] I don't know if it's a habit.

[415] It's a habit.

[416] This is the way I know.

[417] It's the only way I know it.

[418] I mean, look, there was a time before quantum physics.

[419] The only physicists were the Newtonian physicists, the ones that only saw the mechanical material world as real and didn't consider the invisible realm as anything.

[420] Quantum physics comes in and says it's the invisible realm that is actually shaping the physical realm.

[421] Energy shapes matter.

[422] And it's like, well, if you're a Newtonian physicist up until, let's say, 1924, in 1925, the belief changes.

[423] It's 1924, you're teaching the world as a mechanical machine.

[424] You've done this for 30 years.

[425] And then all of a sudden, a few minutes later, you say, no, guess what?

[426] All that's wrong.

[427] It's all completely different.

[428] And it's like, you've spent your whole career doing this.

[429] What are you going to change tonight?

[430] It's not going to happen.

[431] So what do those guys do?

[432] They just put the brakes on everything.

[433] They squash it down.

[434] They keep it repressed.

[435] It's interesting because...

[436] That's so disgusting.

[437] There's a statement that says...

[438] Isn't it really?

[439] No. But there's a statement that answers that it says progress in science is measured tombstone by tombstone.

[440] Wow.

[441] Meaning you have to die before you can get the new thought into it.

[442] Isn't that amazing?

[443] And it's just the ego, right?

[444] Absolutely.

[445] And the money, no, the money.

[446] Money too.

[447] The money is big.

[448] The money is big.

[449] The health care costs in the United States are sinking the entire country.

[450] just on the bills of that alone, and that's totally inhumane.

[451] It's inhumane by definition, and it's a business entity, and medicine is a business entity.

[452] It is not a healing entity.

[453] If you got healed, the whole business would collapse.

[454] So guess what?

[455] How come, with all the money and all the technological advances, we're spending more money now than we've ever done, having more health care than we ever had, and we have the sickest population we ever had?

[456] This is the sickest population.

[457] we've ever had yeah yeah the population the the numbers issue just as too many of us is that what it is no it's just that we we have been we misunderstand how our lives work we're we're like machines and you go to the pharmacy guy and he puts a medicine in there and all of a sudden you got some new parts and it's like no you there's there is a part like aspect of your body your body's like a vehicle for sure but the mind is the driver so the driver's been left out of medicine all they're talking about is all the vehicle's broken is you know keep fixing a vehicle.

[458] It's like there's a driver in there.

[459] If the driver's got some shitty driver education, man, he's going to destroy the vehicle.

[460] And the answer, that's where the problem came from.

[461] So is what we're experiencing really a step in the evolution of what we're going to become?

[462] And so all this, these problems and all this rebellion against the standard behavior that we've, you know, fed into for so long, is all of this like a step in an evolution to something?

[463] One of the most important steps in the world for a simple reason.

[464] If the institutions that we are living by now have created the problem, then there's a simple understanding.

[465] You cannot build a sustainable future on those institutions.

[466] So you think this is a consciousness step?

[467] Is that what it is?

[468] Absolutely.

[469] It's the people waking up to who they are.

[470] As people stop being the blind sheep that are being led to the slaughter every day by those people who know who they are.

[471] The fact is, if I program you to be weak and ineffective I program you you know here's interesting fact being black in this country is a totally negative aspect they they took black students and less you want to play basketball well there's an issue about that too but and that's part of and that's part of the problem of that's a trade -off when when you grow up in a threatening environment the fetus will develop bigger arms and legs and a much better hindbrain because this is what's necessary for defense.

[472] And if you grow up in a very loving environment, then the energy goes into the forebting.

[473] What?

[474] No, I agree with that 100%.

[475] They're always trying to reach for their dreams, you know, so they have longer arms.

[476] I like it.

[477] I like it.

[478] Michael Irvin actually told me this.

[479] I was on a plane with him once, and he was explaining to me, you know, he does a lot of, you know, he's a famous football player.

[480] He does a lot of work with kids, you know, that, you know, grow up and have, like, a lot of anger issues.

[481] And he sort of explained to me that when you're a baby and you're growing up inside of a woman's body, you know, you're developing in a horrible environment where there's, you know, no father and his violence and his, you know, crime and all this.

[482] The fetus will like become like programmed to act quicker, to be more violence to be, yeah, literally, yeah.

[483] That's exactly what the decided nature is.

[484] Try to stick them in a fucking cubicle.

[485] This whole thing is so screwed that way because then we probably.

[486] propagate that.

[487] And we say, look, well, okay, black's are great athletes.

[488] I say, yeah, look where they all come from.

[489] They all come from, you know, essentially an environment that is totally not supportive, which means biologically they have to acquire the ability to fight to survive.

[490] So their bodies are designed much healthier in that regard.

[491] That's pretty crazy when you think about it.

[492] It's like the suppressing of the, you know, the black man has made the black man stronger than a suppressor.

[493] Well, in a physiological sense, yes.

[494] because they have to struggle to stay alive.

[495] So they're designed to be in struggle.

[496] Is it true that shit that Jimmy the Greek got fired for when he said that black people have been bred as slaves, the biggest ones they would breed with the other biggest ones?

[497] Is that why so many black people are big?

[498] Or do you believe that it's a stress and environment issue?

[499] Stress and environment issue.

[500] Wow.

[501] Totally stress and environment.

[502] And this is why we have to recognize biological organisms are designed to be a complement to their environment.

[503] So really, like, boxing promoters, they should go to, like, horrible neighborhoods and scout talent.

[504] Yeah, well, that's the toughest kids in the block are, aren't they?

[505] Right.

[506] Yeah, so that's where you're going to find them.

[507] So, yeah.

[508] Wow.

[509] That's a fascinating statement.

[510] It's fascinating to think that so much is controlled by environment and by thinking and by energy.

[511] But we all know that we gravitate towards those things naturally.

[512] You know, you gravitate towards good times.

[513] You gravitate towards people that make you feel good, you know.

[514] Your unconscious drive is to seek out harmony.

[515] You're a vibration.

[516] So first of all, we see ourselves as physical reality, but physical reality is an illusion.

[517] atoms are vibrational units.

[518] There's no physicality to it.

[519] So you're a vibration.

[520] And the significance is when you get other vibrations that are in harmony with you, that's called constructive interference, that means good vibes.

[521] When you find yourself with other people that have the same vibration as you, your energy gets enhanced.

[522] It's good vibes.

[523] If you find yourself in a threatening environment, the energy gets cancelled, and that's why you feel all of a sudden drained, weak.

[524] You feel very vulnerable.

[525] And it's because you're an environment where the energy of the environment is not in harmony with who you are.

[526] So organisms unconsciously will move to environments that strengthen their vibration.

[527] They'll seek it out.

[528] That's why we're naturally designed to seek out harmony in the world.

[529] That's our intention.

[530] If that's our intention, then why do we do so much destructive shit?

[531] Because there's conscious intention, conscious mind, and this is the big issue that people have to understand, the mind has two parts.

[532] There's a conscious part and a subconscious part.

[533] The conscious part is you, your personal identity, it's creative, it has your wishes and desires.

[534] The subconscious part is like a record playback mechanism.

[535] It learns experiences, push the button, plays the experiences back.

[536] Okay, so now I say, well, okay, our personal drive is our conscious wish and desire.

[537] And then I'm going to tell you a fact, and this is a freaky fact.

[538] Science has shown that we only run our lives 5 % of the time with our conscious mind, our creative mind, the mind with your wishes and what you want out of life.

[539] 95 % of our life comes from the subconscious automated programs at play when we don't even pay attention.

[540] You can drive the car without paying attention.

[541] It's an automatic program.

[542] do your job without paying attention.

[543] It's an automatic program.

[544] So why is it important?

[545] Only 5 % of our life comes from what we want.

[546] 95 % comes from the subconscious programs.

[547] And then here's the catch.

[548] As we mentioned earlier, the first six years you are downloading behavior from your environment.

[549] And those become your fundamental programs.

[550] You watch your parents, your family, your community.

[551] And this is why I said the church saw that.

[552] And they said, give me the first six years, whatever program I put in that six years will become the fundamental programs in the subconscious mind.

[553] The operating system almost.

[554] That's the basic operating system.

[555] And 95 % of your life is going to play from that program.

[556] So who are we?

[557] Whatever we've been programmed to be.

[558] What do you want to be?

[559] Not necessarily the program.

[560] But when you're trying to exercise your conscious mind, like positive thinking, conscious mind, five percent of the time.

[561] Because it's dealing with so much.

[562] Unconscious programming.

[563] It's thinking about the future.

[564] It's thinking about the past.

[565] So what do you propose?

[566] Do you propose it maybe like a standard of thinking be established or a way of thinking where you teach kids in school how to overcome like these subconscious thoughts and how to overcome?

[567] It is possible.

[568] You can't.

[569] Oh, absolutely.

[570] You can reprogram these.

[571] If you couldn't, this would be a crappy world because I say, well, that just like genes, oh, you're stuck with your programs your whole life.

[572] Sorry.

[573] No, no. You can change your programs and change your life.

[574] virtually instantaneously.

[575] But you have to know what you're trying to do, and that's the whole idea.

[576] If nobody knows, A, that they're even behaving from their unconscious programs.

[577] They don't even believe that.

[578] They think, oh, I'm running my life with my intentions and my wishes.

[579] It's like what they're thinking.

[580] And I say, that's 5%.

[581] But in my lectures, I say to people, I say, look, I know sometime in your life you had a very close friend, you knew your friend's behavior, and you happen to know your friend's parent.

[582] And at some point you may have seen that your friend had some of the same behavior.

[583] So you volunteered, you go, you know, Bill, you're just like your dad.

[584] And the first guy you back away from is Bill.

[585] He's going to go ballistic and say, how can you compare me to my dad?

[586] And I tell people, that's so profound a story for what reason.

[587] Here it is.

[588] Everyone else can see that Bill behaves like his dad.

[589] The only one who doesn't see it is Bill.

[590] And we're all Bill, meaning we play behaviors that don't even harmonize with our wishes and desires, but when we play them, we don't see them because they're automatic and unconscious.

[591] And then we wonder why our life isn't going where we wanted to go.

[592] And we didn't realize, fundamentally, we were the ones that were shooting ourselves in the foot in the first place.

[593] And it's because we didn't understand that the control can be controlled by the conscious mind, but when the conscious mind's thinking about stuff, then the default is the subconscious, but the subconscious programmed by other people.

[594] Do you think that people are starting to realize this?

[595] Because, you know, if you think about it, like, on Twitter, you'll see people, even, like, dumb people will say something.

[596] You know, today, just going to be all smiles.

[597] And they're, like, hashtag positivity, you know.

[598] You know, it's like, there's, you know, that wouldn't have happened in 1930.

[599] No guy would have left his house with, you know, one of those little fucking knit caps on and shit.

[600] And made his way of, positivity, you know, they didn't think like that, right?

[601] But Franklin Roosevelt used to read the Sunday comics to the, to the, to the, on the radio.

[602] to the country.

[603] In the Depression, on Sunday, he'd read them the comics, like, come on, man, it's time to take a break and laugh and stuff like that.

[604] So he was a guy that he had the answer way back then.

[605] He said, this was his motto or statement.

[606] The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

[607] What did he know?

[608] He knew that it was the fear that will immobilize you, not the thing you even were thinking about, just having the fear of something immobilizes you.

[609] If people have so much control, if thoughts and ideas and consciousness, has so much control.

[610] What is the what's the cause of things like the Great Depression?

[611] What's the cause of the giant hiccups in the historical process where something terrible happens like the Holocaust or you know something along those lines like what is it?

[612] Is it just is it like push and pull I mean is it that is it a natural process of evil and good constantly battling it out so that good does evolve so it forces good to not sit on the couch?

[613] I don't know if that That easy to say.

[614] I can't say that for sure, but I could tell you this.

[615] Every one of them, by definition, is a learning experience for the organism called humanity.

[616] It wasn't, not for the individual, man. I mean, it's like you're in the Holocaust.

[617] I don't want to participate in that play, but what did the Holocaust teach civilization?

[618] What did these big upheavals and these things that are happening?

[619] We're supposed to be learning.

[620] I mean, that's what the whole concept of humans are.

[621] We learn.

[622] Well, the learning, if you see a pattern, you better.

[623] start responding to this pattern.

[624] Well, we have learned a lot of lessons.

[625] It said, we've come to the end of the way of living that way.

[626] That's what we led to.

[627] We were through a simple point.

[628] You take Darwinian theory and you make politics out of Darwinian theory.

[629] That's Nazi Germany.

[630] That was, Nazi Germany was science right to the line, just said, hey, there's a master race and all the other ones.

[631] The genes are no good.

[632] Get rid of them.

[633] And they were cleaning out the population, according to Darwinian theory, that was science politicized at that point.

[634] And now, it's a like, I had to tell you, but I think the pharmaceutical company has still got its roots back in that time period.

[635] It's a manipulation of people.

[636] The drugs are toxic.

[637] I love to, I love, this is a fact that's a fun, a fun fact, fun fact.

[638] The third leading cause of death in the United States, as recognized by the American Medical Association, is medicine itself.

[639] Atrogenic illness is what they give the Latin term to it.

[640] It is the third leading cause of death.

[641] According to the medical industry, they are the third leading cause of death.

[642] But it was based on conservative vestimist because of paper.

[643] When you say the medical industry, are you talking about pharmaceuticals?

[644] Pharmaceuticals primarily.

[645] Medicine does miracles.

[646] I'm not going to knock medicine down because medicine does miracles, man. Anything physical with the body, mechanical, they are miracle makers.

[647] You want to transplant a heart.

[648] You want to cut pieces, fix them.

[649] Go to them.

[650] You want to deal with cancer, Alzheimer's, diabetes, obesity, depression.

[651] They have no idea what the hell they're talking about because they know the mechanical biology, which gives them the opportunity to work on the body as a vehicle, cut out parts, change parts.

[652] But how do the parts necessarily work?

[653] There's some missing information because there's the new science.

[654] undermines the existing belief system.

[655] So that's why the failure of the system.

[656] And it turns out that when you do the statistics, medicine actually becomes the leading costs of death in the United States today.

[657] And the pharmaceutical company is one of the major elements behind that.

[658] That's amazing.

[659] That's a fact of science.

[660] You know, it's even more creepy as cigarettes.

[661] Here's the secret, Joe.

[662] Here's the secret.

[663] Instead of taking oil valet, smoke cigarettes, just go to Toys R Us once a week and suck your thumb every night.

[664] you'll sleep well i don't even know what you just said i have no idea what you just said what was that is that a brian train wreck no no i mean like i've always you know it's so interesting he this is so interesting to me because i've always thought that you know one of the secrets to life uh to to to feeling looking young being young is to don't ever change what you you're used to so that's why i still i play with toys that's why you want to stay young well no no you just like i'm i'm i feel like i'm a little kid Still, I'm tricking my mind and my health and everything into feeling like I'm a little kid.

[665] I've always thought that.

[666] You smoke a pack of cigarettes a day.

[667] What the fuck are you talking about?

[668] Yeah, but I go to Toys R Us once a week.

[669] So you think that counteracts your cigarettes?

[670] Huh?

[671] It changes everything.

[672] Are you really talking about positive thinking to counteract your cigarettes?

[673] Of course.

[674] My body thinks I'm a kid.

[675] There's a lot of people who are in denial about those cigarettes.

[676] Isn't it amazing?

[677] Isn't it amazing?

[678] That's his strategy.

[679] His strategy is to a child.

[680] I don't want to knock his strategy because he gets lung cancer from cigarettes.

[681] Because that's the same.

[682] strategy says that Stricknine is not poisonous.

[683] Exactly.

[684] How many babies to get cancer?

[685] A lot of people have fucking cancer that didn't think they were going to get cancer.

[686] Well, there's other problems.

[687] You keep smoking cigarettes, stupid.

[688] Bad, man. I don't believe you believe it in enough.

[689] How about that?

[690] Oh, yeah?

[691] Have you seen my apartment?

[692] Have you seen this office?

[693] I don't even know what that means.

[694] I don't even know what that means.

[695] You're smoking cigarettes, stupid.

[696] Ridgulous.

[697] They're candy cigarettes, Joe.

[698] Oh, I didn't know that.

[699] That's awesome.

[700] Smoke is pixie dust, right?

[701] it's amazing that it becomes such an issue look at him he's lighting up stop talking about cigarettes dude don't light oh my god no that's sick that's smoking right now man that's gross why you're lighting up indoors man nasty motherfucker what you stink you have it isn't that amazing we're talking about positive thinking and beliefs and how you can structure the world and change it for the better and this fuckhead lights up a cigarette just to prove a point Brian no it's because he that's who he is that's who he is you can't help it I just like the smoke effect in the studio when it's recorded That's what you like Just like when you used to go to comedy clubs Like Texas before they banned cigarettes You used to always say that on stage How cool it was To go into the room Oh I do like that I think that just adds to the whole like sitting around Yeah but not in the podcast When you talk to a gentleman Talking about positivity And you go and do the exact opposite Of what he's selling you fuck You just became the problem Brian You are the problem them.

[702] You're the fucking whatever percent it is.

[703] You know, you can't go 99 percent and one percent.

[704] I know they can do that financially, but when it comes to morons, it's a much more complicated scale.

[705] It's not just two groups, man. People are probably, they have feet in both groups.

[706] That's also an issue.

[707] How do we fix this?

[708] You're a smart guy.

[709] You obviously, instead of knowing, just knowing these things, you must have some sort of an idea of how it can be absolutely.

[710] How do we implement a positive move forward?

[711] The first thing that's happening right now that's really critical is Occupy Wall Street is just saying, look, we're finished with this stuff.

[712] And it ends when enough people say it ends.

[713] That's basically how it's going to come down.

[714] What do you see happening with this Occupy Wall Shoot?

[715] What do you, you know, it's obviously all over the world now.

[716] It's amazing.

[717] It's like you see one of those Occupy maps and you see literally all over the world people are protesting.

[718] But where does this end?

[719] I think this ends when the institutions that exist start saying they're not able to handle this situation.

[720] anymore and then we start looking for a new way of handling life.

[721] I mean, it was interesting when a governor, one of the places said, I have really, I have a lot of trouble with this.

[722] I could buy Wall Street stuff because I can't find anybody to talk to that's in charge.

[723] And it was sort of like, yeah, because, man, this is a new way of life.

[724] You're not going to have that old game anymore.

[725] So all of a sudden, the old guard will not be able to communicate with a new way of life.

[726] Right.

[727] Well, it's like the internet.

[728] No one runs the internet.

[729] There's not one person that runs the internet, you know?

[730] Yeah.

[731] You could have one person that has.

[732] has a show on NBC or a show on ABC, you know, you can have someone who controls a network.

[733] But once you're on the Internet, it's just one thing, just like would Occupy Wall Street is.

[734] There's not one leader.

[735] It's one giant, cohesive thing, all working together.

[736] That's very fascinating.

[737] That's what I said.

[738] The technology of the Internet was the final evolutionary stage required for civilization because it's the nervous system of a global civilization.

[739] And once that was put into place, then the cells started communicating with each other.

[740] And once they started to do that, then look what's unfolding in the world around us today.

[741] Once the groups of cells from every part of the world started looking at the same dialogue and the same language.

[742] And for me, it's exciting.

[743] I travel all over the place.

[744] I give lectures.

[745] What hit me was a few years back.

[746] I was sitting in my living room in Santa Cruz, and a video crew from Russia was there.

[747] And they were setting up for the video, and I was just sitting there looking at him, and I thought, if you didn't hear them speaking, if you just had a video without the sound, you wouldn't know if they came from L .A. or where the hell they came from, all of a sudden you start to realize all around the world, people are beginning to start to act as one community of people.

[748] And it's real exciting because that is what the evolution is all about.

[749] You can't have separate countries that say, well, let's burn all this crap and put it in the air because it's going to blow over there and we don't care about it.

[750] Those days are over.

[751] Every nation represents cells of people coming together.

[752] It's like every country is like an organ in the body.

[753] You need all the organs to work together to create the wholeness of it.

[754] And that's what we're beginning to recognize.

[755] No organ is separate from any other organ.

[756] We're all part of the same body.

[757] So your lungs are fucking up your whole life, son.

[758] That's what he's trying to say.

[759] Boy, he bites onto that one.

[760] Doesn't let go, man, Brian.

[761] He's trying to say, Brian.

[762] It's trying to say your lungs are fucking up everything.

[763] Stop smoking marijuana.

[764] You're doing it too.

[765] No. No, marijuana doesn't do the same thing.

[766] Your lungs, silly.

[767] Any smoke in your lungs does it?

[768] No, it doesn't.

[769] You're wrong.

[770] What are you a doctor?

[771] You fuckhead?

[772] Yes, it has to.

[773] You just talking out of yours.

[774] You never read a single thing about weed.

[775] It has to.

[776] You've never read a single thing about it.

[777] If you think of what a lung is, it has to affect it the same way.

[778] It's not like it's opposite smoke.

[779] First of all, I don't think you're inhaling nearly as much smoke when you smoke marijuana, because you're only doing it like maybe once or twice in a day.

[780] You're sucking on those stupid things all fucking day long.

[781] And on top of that, those things have 590 -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 -com.

[782] It's like a pack of cigarettes.

[783] The fuck it is.

[784] It's going through water.

[785] That's not a water pipe.

[786] Stupid.

[787] That's a cigarette.

[788] All right.

[789] And cigarettes are going through filters.

[790] Oh, my God.

[791] cigarettes are filled with chemicals that kill you.

[792] No one's ever died from pot ever in the history of the world.

[793] Do you not get that?

[794] There's a direct connection there?

[795] I'm sure.

[796] I'm sure there's people that have died from marijuana.

[797] No. You might have done something stupid when you were high.

[798] With the help of marijuana.

[799] You might have done something stupid when you were high, but that's on you.

[800] That's not on the pots plant.

[801] That's like, you know, that's like blaming a Corvette because you crash into a tree.

[802] It's not the car's fault.

[803] If you knew how to drive, you didn't you say, like, there's definitely been lung cancer cases that are probably attributed to marijuana?

[804] No, there's none.

[805] No, I mean, no, that they don't say it's marijuana because, like, hey, I have cancer.

[806] But there would be, there would be cases of it.

[807] They would talk about it.

[808] Look, there's freak instances in medicine.

[809] There's freak instances where people's reactions to certain things, and people get cancer from fucking all kinds of weird shit that doesn't bother you or me. But you look at the history of human use.

[810] Where's the fucking bodies, dude?

[811] You can't say that pot smoke kills people.

[812] You can't.

[813] Because there's no evidence.

[814] There's no evidence that anybody's dying from it.

[815] There's a lot of evidence of people who are dying from cigarettes.

[816] But you're very strong on that side of the case.

[817] I like you.

[818] I don't want you to die.

[819] I've met a guy.

[820] No, I'm saying you're very, even though there's no evidence, you seem like you've picked aside.

[821] But don't you, you're just rolling out that there's no one that has got lung cancer from marijuana smoke?

[822] Well, if that guy died, he's a pussy.

[823] One guy died from me, he's a pussy.

[824] That's what I said.

[825] Jesus Christ.

[826] If weed kills you, it's because we got there first.

[827] You could have died sniffing glue, you stupid fuck.

[828] I just like you, dude.

[829] I don't want you to get cancer, and I know you're stuck in this stupid thing, and it's so ridiculous, because you quit for a while and you talk about how, oh, smoke makes me sick now, and then your cat stubs its toe, and you fucking light right up again.

[830] You know, and eventually you're playing a game that's going to catch up with you.

[831] And I think this message is to anybody's out there smoking cigarettes.

[832] is the most ridiculous fucking thing you can do.

[833] They taste like shit.

[834] They're terrible for you.

[835] This whole reward mechanism is just because you're addicted to their chemicals and when you get that chemical, you get this reward.

[836] It's not even just tobacco.

[837] And I will say if you get a law that says banned cigarettes from the United States that 90 % of the smokers will sign it.

[838] That's, see, right there, that's incredible.

[839] That's incredible.

[840] Yeah, I mean, you don't understand what it's like to be addicted to cigarettes.

[841] Oh, I imagine.

[842] I can only imagine.

[843] So you're preaching to the choir when you talk about it to any smoking you're preaching to the bar.

[844] I want you to be strong, son.

[845] I want you to be strong.

[846] I get it.

[847] Well, tell government to stop smoking.

[848] Well, Bruce Lipton just told me that you are creating your own life, dude.

[849] You're creating all your own problems.

[850] See, he just explained to you.

[851] What's happening to you on a quantum level.

[852] I know what cigarettes to me are making me happy.

[853] You are the perfect foil.

[854] You're the perfect foil for this intelligent debate we're having where Bruce is explaining the nature of the fucking universe.

[855] And you're like, No, cigarettes are awesome.

[856] I'm not saying they're awesome.

[857] I just said they're, please ban them.

[858] Please ban them because they're awesome.

[859] I can't stop.

[860] I'm going to smoke in front of people.

[861] I don't care if it stinks.

[862] It's like you just like if someone who really likes to fart, you don't care.

[863] You just fart all over everybody.

[864] I love fighting all of them people.

[865] It's lighting cigarettes all over people.

[866] Find for an intervention.

[867] This stupidity in the air.

[868] It's just, and if you like cigarettes, man, that's all cool and everything.

[869] That's all cool in the gang.

[870] I'm just telling my friend here, don't be stupid.

[871] right it's ridiculous isn't that what you're supposed to do if we're supposed to re -engineer the world aren't you supposed to call stupid shit out when you see it it's going to be great are you going to be the king who's going to be the king no i don't want to see i don't want to go back to the mouth of santa no i just want to be you know back in the woods you want to go hide in the woods i love that i like that too yeah yeah you and i are on the same page you you animals oh it's stuck in in the woods you don't if you're a sensitive person if you're thinking all the time you're sensitive to other people around you, and I always believe that people around you affect you.

[872] Their energy affects you.

[873] Absolutely do.

[874] You don't realize how relaxing it is when there's no one around.

[875] When there's literally no one around.

[876] Like you sit down in your porch, you hear it chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, you see a chipmunk walk by, and you see birds flying overhead, you see the wind slowly moving the trees.

[877] Fuck, that feels awesome.

[878] That's the garden.

[879] It's a garden experience, yeah.

[880] You're released from the hive briefly.

[881] That's why I don't understand New York City.

[882] When you're just trusting all these people's vibes around you, You know, you're just going to live in some giant fucking cement box with a bunch of weirdos and they all think weird shit and who knows whose toaster doesn't work right and lights the whole fucking place on fire.

[883] You're going to trust these assholes and you're just going to be around them every day, stuck in traffic and just breathing their energy, right?

[884] Yeah, I was one of the lucky guys in the world.

[885] I ended up teaching the Caribbean Islands.

[886] Whoa.

[887] I taught there for about three years and I want to talk about Garden of Eden.

[888] Not back then, no. Oh, yeah.

[889] Yeah, tell you more.

[890] You want to talk about a line.

[891] I offered this line and never really worked.

[892] It was like, it's like, hey, you want to, you got nothing to do?

[893] I got a villa down in the Caribbean and want to come down.

[894] I had that great line, but I really never found anybody to know that was like, God, what a great line.

[895] And I'm wasting it.

[896] That's a pretty baller line.

[897] Well, you know, you want to come to my place down the Caribbean.

[898] I know there sometimes.

[899] I fuck around with the Caribbean.

[900] You know, I fuck with that sometimes.

[901] I got a villa, whatever, whatever.

[902] that's one of those things you know it's one of those things you really should have used it you should have forced yourself in some sort of a bar situation you know you just yeah it's one of those things if you would think that if you didn't have it if you didn't have it you'd say man if I had that boy would I fucking use it but then if you did have it you probably wouldn't use it right it seems so cheesy the rejection could be so horrified it was actually if you try that oh yeah oh you did try it oh yeah and they rejected it and it's just like, wow, that didn't work.

[903] I'm really bad, am I?

[904] When you say something really cheesy like that, you take a chance that a girl's basically a materialistic slut.

[905] A lot of chicks don't like that.

[906] Yeah, that's really, you're taking a big, bold chance.

[907] It's like when Bill Clinton used to just pull this dick out in front of girls.

[908] You know, like, man, I guess that works sometimes.

[909] But holy shit, what a gamble.

[910] He represented the testosterone of the country, so he was, you know, that's what he was.

[911] He must have worked so many times.

[912] There's no way.

[913] it didn't work because all these like the state trooper woman that Jennifer Flowers women these women that would claim we would just whip his dick out and it was not just one you know it was like it obviously was his go -to movie it was an unconscious behavior he didn't see himself doing it but I mean I can't believe he did it with like women in like professional environments and stuff I mean he wasn't like alone at his house to having a couple of drinks and he just whips it out no he would whip it out when the first person left the room you know there'd be like three people in the room I'll be right back I'm gonna go to the bathroom then one person would go to the bathroom he whip his dick out I mean, he was fucking crazy.

[914] He was king.

[915] He was king.

[916] But is it natural to have that kind of behavior?

[917] Isn't that what drives a lot of those guys to get to that position in the first place?

[918] Absolutely, because you're in that competition out there in the field.

[919] And how do you know how you succeed in the competition?

[920] Well, how many toys do you own and what's your position in the hierarchy?

[921] And so when you've driven yourself to that level, there was a reason why you wanted to be up there, not just because there was something to do for the week or something like that.

[922] There was a mission statement.

[923] So that was playing the game full out going.

[924] for that.

[925] This is why a lot of people really identify with Ron Paul and one of the reasons why they identify with Ron Paul is they know he doesn't want to fuck anybody.

[926] Yeah, yeah.

[927] He's like an old dude.

[928] It's not like he's not like on some crazy pussy prowl and once he gets in office he'll be playing golf every day.

[929] No, he's done with everything.

[930] Any thought of anything masculine or dominating and you know he's done with all that.

[931] Absolutely and it would be great to I could just see it happening because of the internet community a third party could arise within just several weeks do you think voting is real voting yeah you think it's not rigged I think it's set up it's rigged yeah especially with computer voting machines yeah did you watch that documentary hacking democracy yeah I've seen that and I know some of the people in the industry and it's sort of like yeah that's just a given but what's insane is that that wasn't followed up on and chased down and beaten down in front of the press like like that girl killed her baby what the fuck name Casey Anthony that got beaten down you know that got beaten down to the press why wasn't this?

[932] Because obviously anything that was important doesn't play in the press the press is owned by the people that own the opinion they'll play what they want I mean when haven't they done that so disgusting that's why the internet is so that's what they lost control all of a sudden what a fuck up the internet is huh isn't it right it's pirate radio for the whole world.

[933] What a disaster.

[934] You like the people think for themselves.

[935] The fun stuff is like that's that Rodney King people don't remember but Rodney King was the beginning of everybody getting caught on camera, you know?

[936] I love it.

[937] Like yeah, you're right.

[938] I never thought of it that way.

[939] Once that opened up, all of a sudden it's like oh, you mean you could expose the secrets and everybody had cameras like the UC Davis thing.

[940] Yes, the pepper spray guy.

[941] That was a great.

[942] That's horrific.

[943] That was a great demonstration how they peaceably just pushed the guys right out of the thing.

[944] but it was neat it's like 50 % of the audience had their hands up with cameras and everybody was shooting this whole thing and sort of like in this world I don't think that guy thought that was going to happen I don't think he was going to get I think he never thought he would get contacted about it they're just doing his job police all thought yeah that was amazing to me that someone could think that it would be the right thing to do to take some fucking kid who is a college student okay and all they're doing is sitting there protesting and you're going to spray some 15, 20 year old kid in a face with pepper spray and you're a cop?

[945] What a piece of shit.

[946] And that reaction is completely natural and important, right?

[947] Because that is verification that there's a new process in place.

[948] Absolutely.

[949] And that's what I was so proud about those people because they got into a situation where it could have gotten into violence.

[950] And what they did is they just held the violence back and just, you know, there's just shame on you and they shamed them, like, push them back back until they were off the campus.

[951] And they got off.

[952] And it was like, oh, wow, nonviolence.

[953] Because what people have to understand is it's the violence that's being planted, I think most of it, I would say, is planted is to throw people against this Occupy Wall Street movement.

[954] And when they did it peaceably, it's like, wow, how are you going to complain about that?

[955] You know, it's like that was a great demonstration of how to handle the situation.

[956] Because the moment violence comes in, they're almost like Nazi stormtroopers out there, and especially with all that.

[957] Homeland Security, you know, all that crap, all their new gunsons, all that technology for crowd control.

[958] They're freaky people out there.

[959] And it's like, and they love the job.

[960] They love to go out there and pound on those kids.

[961] That's what they claim for.

[962] So ridiculous.

[963] So ridiculous.

[964] It's very fascinating, though.

[965] It's very fascinating the tone that the movement has taken.

[966] The fact that it's really been amazingly nonviolent considering the amount of resistance.

[967] That's what it needs.

[968] Because otherwise, if you're going to play the game of force, you're not going to win the game.

[969] What do you think is going to happen?

[970] Do you sit down and prognosticate?

[971] Do you see a direction that this is going to go to?

[972] Yeah.

[973] There's two choices here, and the choices are we're going to survive this evolutionary thing, or we're not going to survive it.

[974] So we continue doing what we're doing.

[975] We already know, science already said.

[976] It's already on a calendar, man. You're going out.

[977] And the question is, can we?

[978] we mobilize and make the change.

[979] And I really think we can because it's especially the younger generation and the older older generation, the ones in the middle I'm a little concerned about, but there are a lot of old hippies out there that really are in total alignment with the Occupy Wall Street movement.

[980] That's who they are.

[981] They were there back then when it all happened.

[982] And so I think there's just great opportunity for this evolution.

[983] It's going to be fabulous.

[984] But you have to recognize like anything when a child's born is there's blood there's there's there's a pain and blood when it happens and birthing this new civilization we're going to go through this little bit of this chaos here which is going to be painful for a lot of people but it's like we got to see past where we are and look to where we're going to go isn't it amazing that no one would have ever guessed 20 years ago that we'd be talking about this that we'd be talking about society eroding to the point where it really becomes irrelevant or not irrelevant but just it doesn't it's not respected you know it's it's you know the the setup is we've accepted it because it just is what it is no one is happy with it everybody recognizes it's full of flaws but it's almost like there's this attitude that like this is as good as we can do as humans oh you know I mean today this complicated society with the stock market and the exchange rates and you know Saudi Arabian oil this is as good as we can get But it's not, obviously.

[985] It's not, because it's not perfect.

[986] No, it's a status quo to keep those people that have the haves to keep what they have.

[987] Yes.

[988] And to keep all the other people in that place.

[989] Instead of evolving, it's in fact devolving.

[990] Absolutely.

[991] But that's what's going to cause it come to a head, come to a crisis point where something's going to have to happen right here.

[992] People have to realize that the people that are in power are not looking out for their interests in any way.

[993] Isn't it obvious?

[994] It's obvious.

[995] This new thing that was passed in the Senate about the United States being a battlefield.

[996] Oh, man. Did you see this, that they're allowed to mobilize troops now on American soil?

[997] Apparently Obama said he's going to veto it, but what the fuck ever, man?

[998] The fact that he got that far in the first place, that's horrific.

[999] It's just this manipulation by a very small number of people like, you know, listen, we're going to extend unemployment, but you have to sign for the pipeline.

[1000] At what point in time does that become criminal for like the Senate?

[1001] At what point in time do we not say, hey, you fucking crooks, get out of here.

[1002] I'm waiting.

[1003] I'm totally waiting for this.

[1004] And it's really upsetting.

[1005] and that's why I actually started looking.

[1006] I even look for a place in New Zealand now.

[1007] It's going to be so hard to get rid of lobbyists.

[1008] It's going to be so hard.

[1009] That kind of shit, it's going to be so hard to get all that stuff out.

[1010] Look, the Internet, as I said, could overnight change the entire political spectrum overnight.

[1011] They never counted on that.

[1012] And if you do something viral.

[1013] If voting is real.

[1014] If voting is real.

[1015] But then the idea is you really start to swamp the market.

[1016] It's very hard to say that, you know, that's what these other countries know.

[1017] It's like, well, obviously, this didn't conform to the people who voted.

[1018] Isn't it funny?

[1019] that we are becoming a fucking banana dictatorship?

[1020] We have become everything we fought for other countries and freed other countries we've imposed with a Patriot Act.

[1021] We have taken away personal liberty and this whole country is to my opinion with that Patriot Act in operation is as bankrupt as any of the countries like Chile was under their leadership and their dictators where whatever the government says, they can create whatever they want.

[1022] Take you Joe off the street and not tell anybody for 90 days.

[1023] that you're even gone.

[1024] It's not incredible.

[1025] Like, in America, that's incredible.

[1026] Like, whoever signed that, you are traitors.

[1027] You guys are traitors.

[1028] Just straight traitors.

[1029] They should be fucking ashamed to themselves.

[1030] To call yourself a representative of the people and to pass something like that.

[1031] What do you think?

[1032] What if everything at the time is completely fucked up and the right thing to do is to march in the street and to block traffic and to stop this fucking tyrannical situation?

[1033] If that is the case, If that is the case, then we're there.

[1034] Then anybody who opposes that is treasonous.

[1035] Yeah, look, they already have the internment camps to hold several million people.

[1036] Because this was not a new thing.

[1037] As a matter of fact, there was a guy at Stanford University at this think tank called the Hoover Think Tank.

[1038] In 1980, the government asked him to write a report on a scenario if there's a big financial collapse.

[1039] In 1980, they asked him to write this.

[1040] He said, you know, these were game players.

[1041] How would you play this thing out?

[1042] And the thing was, it was real interesting.

[1043] He said, in this process of what they were talking about in the future, the guy who wrote it up said, one of the things was interesting, he said, people in this future period are going to become more conscious, and this is going to change the relationship of what's going on.

[1044] But he also came to the conclusion.

[1045] He said, inevitably, we're still going to come to a chaos period where there's going to have to be control, maintained.

[1046] And I remember he put in parentheses, and he said, and I hope not for long.

[1047] but what he was saying is if it comes to a crunch issue like this for the government to maintain control they'll have to put a lot of people away in internment camps to keep it from burning up and I mean look it's not very far now I mean the essentially stormtroopers in Oakland and all these other cities coming in there I mean it's like it's out of some other country's history book and we're looking at it live yeah it really is it's terrifying it's weird how quickly it happened too.

[1048] You know, you remember right after 9 -11 when everybody was like, oh, rah, rah.

[1049] I remember it was just a week or so after the tragedy I was driving down the street and every other car had an American flag.

[1050] Yeah, yeah.

[1051] You know, it's amazing.

[1052] Everybody was all We blew it.

[1053] We blew it.

[1054] Because it was an evolutionary moment.

[1055] It was right on the edge because all around the world, all the countries at once started to say, let's unite together and stamp out this stuff.

[1056] And then it was, you know, a cowboy George said no I'll do it myself you know and sort of I think Dick Cheney said let's just go in there and get some money bitch Dick Cheney just went in there and stole everything yeah there's Darth Vader real life man so yeah his fucking heart doesn't even have a pulse you know that he doesn't have a pulse he's got some crazy pacemaker in him to keep him alive like what doctor thinks it's a good idea to keep that dude alive oh my god Hollywood animatronics yeah Jesus Christ what do you want him to be around to influence shit more make more crazy decisions he's had a long time time.

[1057] He's done good.

[1058] The fact that he managed to get this far and still live, considering how many people he's probably responsible for their deaths.

[1059] That whole secret government stuff with Halliburton.

[1060] God damn.

[1061] Remember when he was always in the bunker, too?

[1062] He would always hide in the bunker.

[1063] That was like the craziest shit ever.

[1064] George Bush would be out playing golf.

[1065] He's like Dr. Cheney would be a mile underground.

[1066] You know, because they didn't want Dick Cheney to die.

[1067] You know, it's amazing.

[1068] He's a guy pulling the marionette strengths.

[1069] But isn't that like the first time ever that we can recall that there was a real, like the vice president it really was sort of in control of the whole thing.

[1070] I mean, I don't remember that happening during the Carter administration or Reagan administration or...

[1071] Well, Reagan himself wasn't in charge of anything.

[1072] He was...

[1073] People don't remember.

[1074] He was an ad spokesman on television, early days of television for things like General Electric and big corporations.

[1075] He was that guy that distinguished look.

[1076] And they just bought him from the television set and put him in front of the world and gave him the lines to read.

[1077] He was an actor.

[1078] He knew all the lines.

[1079] It's amazing.

[1080] know how many people respected him.

[1081] It's like people that argue that Hulk Hogan really did fight all those guys.

[1082] Like, there's people, you know, if you ever seen those dudes on the internet, like there's a very famous clip of one guy, and he's in a high school auditorium or something, he's talking to these wrestlers, and he's crying, and he's literally crying.

[1083] He's like, I just want to thank you all for what you do.

[1084] Have you ever seen that clip, Brian?

[1085] The coach talking to the players?

[1086] No, he's real to me. It's real to me. No, he's a, find that dude.

[1087] He's a pro wrestling fan.

[1088] It's fucking hilarious.

[1089] So what should I search for?

[1090] It's real to me. It's still real to me. But, oh.

[1091] You got to see this guy.

[1092] This guy, man, you can learn a lot.

[1093] But it really is along the same lines.

[1094] You know, people that just, they don't want to hear it.

[1095] That's most of the population as far as I can tell.

[1096] They can see it in front of their faces and don't even say anything.

[1097] A lot of people are too busy, too.

[1098] That's another, it's very hard to even concentrate on anything other than watching TV and eat it.

[1099] after you work all day.

[1100] It's fucking hard, man. And if you go to the gym, too, oh, Jesus, what do you have time for?

[1101] You know, you take a spinning class or you know, you do, you know, whatever.

[1102] Do some place of racquetball or something, you know?

[1103] After that's over, man, how much time do you have to fix the world?

[1104] You got to go to bed and do it all over again, stupid.

[1105] Put down your sign, you know?

[1106] Go get a job, hippie.

[1107] It's over with.

[1108] Everybody's going to fall asleep.

[1109] All right.

[1110] Did you find him?

[1111] There he is, Brian.

[1112] That was it.

[1113] Okay.

[1114] Hold on one second.

[1115] Isn't that, isn't that a problem that people are working all the time and they're tired?

[1116] It's very difficult to get a fucking movement going with a bunch of people who are tired from work.

[1117] All right, here we go.

[1118] Yeah, but thank us how many people are not working anymore, so.

[1119] Check out this poor guy.

[1120] Yeah.

[1121] I just want to thank each and everyone out for all you've done to your bodies.

[1122] It's still real to me, damn it.

[1123] I mean, thank you.

[1124] Thank you, all guys.

[1125] You're awesome.

[1126] Thank you so much, Mr. Fuck, for saying.

[1127] what needed to be said.

[1128] I don't want to see it.

[1129] Isn't one of these?

[1130] Isn't that amazing?

[1131] That's how far the mind can wander.

[1132] How do we bring that guy back?

[1133] How do we turn that guy into the coolest guy in the world?

[1134] Mushrooms?

[1135] That would help.

[1136] You've got to hold them down now, I'm thinking.

[1137] You've got to hold them down.

[1138] I don't think he's right at a funnel in his mouth.

[1139] Yeah, you've got to like you're trying to make foiegoa.

[1140] Like those things they do with ducks, so they force feed them to make their liver.

[1141] Which, by the way, is delicious.

[1142] You ever had that fagua stuff?

[1143] It's going to be illegal in California.

[1144] At the end of this month, people have decided they're going to outlaw this fogwa.

[1145] We've got to, this is wrong what they're doing to these ducks that they're eventually going to fucking kill and eat anyway.

[1146] But meanwhile, cigarettes are illegal.

[1147] Look at this, wacky fucking doucheback government we have.

[1148] Joe, did you see that architect that just released...

[1149] Fuck ducks, dude.

[1150] For real.

[1151] Team people, okay?

[1152] Did you see that architect that just released those new building drawings that they're going to make a building that looks just like 9 -11.

[1153] Here's a picture of it on the screen right behind you, Joe.

[1154] Have you seen this?

[1155] It's actually at first you look at it and you're like, oh, that's just creepy looking, but then the more you look into it, it's actually really cool.

[1156] Oh, it's dope.

[1157] Well, it's kind of the clouds really.

[1158] The idea is that it sticks above the clouds because it's so high.

[1159] But it also looks like a fucking plane slamming.

[1160] It's the same thing.

[1161] A lot like I mean, like, exactly.

[1162] Yeah, but...

[1163] What kind of fucking cloud is like that?

[1164] Like a pixelated cloud.

[1165] Yeah, it's kind of interesting, though.

[1166] It's probably a dope building.

[1167] Let them build it.

[1168] It gives a shit.

[1169] You know, are we so sensitive to explosions and buildings?

[1170] You know, is it like Muhammad now?

[1171] You can't draw the 9 -11 towers.

[1172] We'll go after you.

[1173] You fuck.

[1174] Oh.

[1175] You know?

[1176] Strange place.

[1177] America?

[1178] Yeah.

[1179] The whole world, right?

[1180] Yeah, but we're great leaders.

[1181] Well, we're better than the Middle East, man. Check out what the fuck they're doing.

[1182] Oh, yeah?

[1183] people when they're dancing and all that bullshit.

[1184] We are less oppressive than them.

[1185] Isn't that funny?

[1186] That's like a badge of honor.

[1187] We fuck you less hard.

[1188] We're like, Geno, we kiss you.

[1189] We give you a massage.

[1190] We haven't gotten started yet, you know, because that's the one difference.

[1191] All the other countries, they get in the revolution, they throw rocks and bottles to each other.

[1192] We've got AK -47s automatic weapons, so a revolution here is going to have a whole different impact.

[1193] And we're not, we're also not under a religious fundamentalist rule.

[1194] It's not the same way.

[1195] Not completely, but in process.

[1196] In process, you think?

[1197] You feel like it's going in that direction?

[1198] Well, the Republicans, that's their whole model.

[1199] Well, that's just because that's the best way to rape in the retards, or rope in the retards.

[1200] You know, that's a good pattern that they can adapt and think that way.

[1201] But if you believe, like, Rick Perry is looking out for God's interests, you know, God would want that fucking dope being the president?

[1202] That guy, I mean, never have you seen a guy in a debate that forgot, like, a primary part of being a fucking politician?

[1203] what do you stand for stupid do you have your shit memorized you haven't written down anywhere he didn't even have notes in front of him you know when he was talking about the three branches of government he was going to get rid of and he blanked it's amazing and yet the first move he did after that was to put out a thing about being a Christian and about the gays don't want you to celebrate Christmas the whole world's falling apart and all this stuff and they want to bring out a case of evidence like you guys there's big issues here and they don't want to They don't deal with any big issues.

[1204] Well, they're mining for low -hanging fruit, and that's the best way to mine for low -hanging fruit.

[1205] That's an unfortunate situation, and I think I remember back at some advertisers, it's like, oh, George Bush would be the kind of president you like to go have a beer with at the bar, and I'm thinking, not really.

[1206] You know, who's that?

[1207] I would have a beer with him just to see how fucking guilty he feels.

[1208] Oh.

[1209] You know, just to see what it's like.

[1210] I would definitely have a beer with that guy.

[1211] I think he's a spokesperson, and the thing that I always point to is the time when that dude was throwing shoes at him.

[1212] Yeah.

[1213] Remember that?

[1214] He ducked, and he's like smiling.

[1215] He had this look on his face that, to me, was like, this is the first fun this fucking guy has had in years.

[1216] You know, in years.

[1217] Finally, he's having a good time.

[1218] Well, what are your shoe, man?

[1219] Hey, I just fucking work here.

[1220] I'm responsible how much this Big Mac is.

[1221] You know, it's basically like he was behind the counter at McDonald's and someone threw their shoes at him.

[1222] He probably hated that day, though.

[1223] He probably hated that day.

[1224] He probably had the worst night.

[1225] No, I don't think that at all.

[1226] I think he's happy for a moment.

[1227] He's like Secret Service of following him.

[1228] every day with bulletproof vests and fucking guns and tanks and cars you can't blow up.

[1229] He's having a good time when someone was throwing shoes out of, man. A sports moment for him.

[1230] Yeah.

[1231] It was like something was actually happening in his life that they didn't plan out in advance and pull off to a tee while the whole world thought they were, you know, battling good guys, starting fucking wars over weapons that don't even exist.

[1232] And even those that's been proven, those weapons don't exist.

[1233] Oh, we're just going to stay for another seven or eight years.

[1234] Look, we got rid of a bad guy.

[1235] You know, like, and this whole thing that's going on in Afghanistan.

[1236] I mean, it's amazing that people, anybody supports it.

[1237] Who is?

[1238] A lot of people, man. A lot of politicians supported, obviously.

[1239] That's the best government money can buy.

[1240] But it's amazing that anybody could buy.

[1241] I mean, if you needed the best example ever of how the government and the military are not looking out for your best interest.

[1242] Afghanistan is it.

[1243] To think that we didn't learn, not only do we not learn anything from Vietnam, we learned less.

[1244] This is a dumber war.

[1245] This is way dumber, right?

[1246] It's way dumb, right, and it'll probably last longer.

[1247] The money was good, though.

[1248] It's amazing.

[1249] The money was great.

[1250] It's an amazing way to make some money.

[1251] That was the whole motivation.

[1252] It's just pushed the money around for that.

[1253] Yeah, I was looking at, they had some thing in the news the other day about the amount of heroin that's been produced.

[1254] It's something like 61 % more in 2011 than in 2010.

[1255] It's incredible, and it's in response to the price increasing.

[1256] So they're just making insane, someone is making insane amounts of money from that.

[1257] Insane amounts of money.

[1258] We're going to have that Michael Rupert guy on.

[1259] Did you get that message?

[1260] No, what?

[1261] The collapse guy who sits there and just says, We're fucked, we're fucked, we're fucked, we're fucked, we're fucked.

[1262] Remember that guy on a documentary?

[1263] Yeah, he's going to do it.

[1264] Oh, wow.

[1265] Yeah, we're setting that up.

[1266] Did you hear about the alarming toxins found in baby food?

[1267] Like, they're finding...

[1268] Fucking baby food, man?

[1269] They're finding in Japan.

[1270] What monsters do it?

[1271] No, in Japan.

[1272] They're finding from that whole shit, there's the baby food.

[1273] Yeah.

[1274] There's stuff in the baby food.

[1275] Of course it is.

[1276] It's probably in everything.

[1277] everything.

[1278] It's probably in the ground.

[1279] That's why when Shane was here and he was telling us that Tokyo was two hours away, and I was like, I'm going to go two hours away from that.

[1280] Even going for a couple days, that's terrifying for me. Those poor people have to live there and that stuff is going to get into their water and stuff's going to get in their food.

[1281] How many people are going to be irradiated before they actually do something about it?

[1282] Dana White's going to come back with a full head of hair.

[1283] I don't think it works that way.

[1284] I don't think it works that way, too.

[1285] I think it actually makes your hair fall out, silly.

[1286] But these are the lessons.

[1287] Come back with no eyebrows.

[1288] These are the lessons, and whether we learn them or not.

[1289] That's, this is time period.

[1290] There's no way to fix that, right?

[1291] That Fukushima, how do you say the name?

[1292] Fukushima.

[1293] Fukushima.

[1294] You can't fix that, right?

[1295] I mean, that's fucked.

[1296] That's fucked.

[1297] And they can't even contain like the core, right?

[1298] Isn't it like melted through the containment walls?

[1299] It'll be contained to planet Earth.

[1300] It probably will go past planet Earth, but it'll stay on planet Earth.

[1301] Isn't amazing?

[1302] It's amazing that people still will say that we should have nuclear energy.

[1303] It's like, what if one of these things goes wrong every 20 years?

[1304] Do you understand that in the course, of human history, the whole planet is fucked.

[1305] It takes over 100 ,000 years for people to be able to go anywhere near that without dying, right?

[1306] We have a short -term memory problem.

[1307] But, I mean, that's a ridiculous calculation.

[1308] Yeah, and yet the people, as long as it's in the front of the newspaper, then it's there, and the moment it's not in front of the newspaper, it's gone.

[1309] People like, you know what, nuclear power has an amazing record.

[1310] No, it doesn't.

[1311] I can tell you three times that I know, and I'm not even barely paying attention.

[1312] Three -mile islands, right?

[1313] Where's that chemicals?

[1314] No, no. That was nuclear as well.

[1315] Three Mile Island.

[1316] Chernobyl.

[1317] Chernobyl.

[1318] And Fukushima.

[1319] That's three.

[1320] And each one got bigger than the last one.

[1321] But that's ridiculous.

[1322] If you know three fuck -ups, you know three fuck -ups in your life.

[1323] That's amazing.

[1324] Yeah, but we have here in California, our nuclear plants on the fault line as well.

[1325] What the fuck is wrong with us?

[1326] Are we doing this on purpose?

[1327] Are we like playing chicken?

[1328] Pretty down -dum.

[1329] We down -dumbed ourselves so that we're more easily controlled.

[1330] We didn't do it.

[1331] It seems like we're playing chicken.

[1332] It seems like we're a guy or your wife goes to the gym and you call a prostitute into your house.

[1333] And it's like it's a race against time.

[1334] She's back in a man. Get the fuck out of here.

[1335] It's like you're almost wanting to get caught.

[1336] You're a crazy person.

[1337] You know, when you're building a fucking power plant on a fault line, you know, if I was your psychologist, I'd be like, homie, what the fuck are you doing, man?

[1338] Hey, man, the land was cheap.

[1339] Yeah, you couldn't put that over here?

[1340] You couldn't put that over here where it never moves?

[1341] Oh.

[1342] That seems ridiculous.

[1343] Yeah.

[1344] It's a good spot.

[1345] It seems it just as ridiculous that we all live here, though.

[1346] Fucking completely ridiculous.

[1347] That's why I moved to Colorado, man. That was my number one feelings for like, why does everybody have to live in this one spot?

[1348] This is so stupid.

[1349] And that's what I felt like when you live in a place that only has a few thousand people.

[1350] It's like, woo, you get to breathe.

[1351] You can fucking relax.

[1352] Why do we do this?

[1353] Why do we group up like this?

[1354] Because we get things done easier this way?

[1355] No, it's just a nature of cells started to do that before we did that.

[1356] Cells lived in community.

[1357] And then they can't.

[1358] So are we the unhealthy cells?

[1359] because we separate from the pack and want to hide in the woods?

[1360] Well, maybe with it for the whole idea.

[1361] There's definitely some bad growth in the colony.

[1362] And it's got cancer itself.

[1363] The system's got cancer itself.

[1364] So when you look at the future and you see, with all the information that you have, which is far more than most, how do you see this ending?

[1365] I think this has the greatest possible, most wonderful ending in the world.

[1366] Let me just give example.

[1367] So we talked about the conscious mind and that we're being controlled by the subconscious mind.

[1368] and that the conscious mind is a creative mind with your wishes and desires.

[1369] Well, here's an interesting fact.

[1370] Go back to a time, sometimes you fell head over heels in love with somebody.

[1371] I call it the honeymoon period.

[1372] And then I say, in that honeymoon period, where you're healthy.

[1373] And almost everybody, when I'm going to ask a big audience, almost everybody goes, exuberantly healthy when I was in that period.

[1374] I said, did you have energy?

[1375] It's like, yeah, we had so much energy.

[1376] We made love for days.

[1377] Didn't even stop for food, man. And I say, it was life so beautiful that you couldn't wait for the next day to have more of that.

[1378] And everybody goes, yeah, yeah.

[1379] And I go, just think about it.

[1380] Is that tantamount to having heaven on earth?

[1381] Would that be something like that?

[1382] And everybody goes, well, yeah.

[1383] And then I go, that was not an accident.

[1384] That was a personal creation.

[1385] And that the honeymoon was the one time in our lives.

[1386] And this is the interesting part because neuroscience says, the one time where you operate strictly from the conscious mind and don't revert to that default program and the subconscious mind where you're operating from your wishes and desires, is the time you're making love.

[1387] When you're making love, the conscious mind stays in the present moment.

[1388] Well, why is that relevant?

[1389] It's the conscious mind and has all your wishes and desires.

[1390] So if that mind stays in the front, guess what?

[1391] Then you created a life that was heaven on earth.

[1392] But the moment life starts to get too busy, and your mind starts to wander and think, then you resort back to the unconscious programs.

[1393] Well, you didn't see you did that, but your partner does, and your partner goes, what the hell kind of behavior is that?

[1394] Where'd that come from?

[1395] And that's when this whole honeymoon starts to come to an end, because when you just said whatever you did from your subconscious program, which may have been your father or your mother, and you didn't hear yourself say it, your partner heard yourself say it.

[1396] You didn't even hear yourself saying that.

[1397] So that's where all of a sudden a honeymoon starts to start to collapse.

[1398] It's like, what are you talking about?

[1399] I've always been this way or whatever you want to say.

[1400] It's like you start losing the dialogue because you're now talking from your subconscious programs.

[1401] But the whole point was what?

[1402] when we did operate from the conscious moment when we did stay in that period we created heaven on earth both health wise and yeah but then she got fat she started bitching at me about shit and dude I'm tired of the fucking texting my friends you got a problem with me talk to me isn't that what happens though that kind of just get tired of their own bullshit conscious mind started annoying with people too you know it's a utopian concept because what you're talking about is this massive upbeat uprise of serotonin too, right?

[1403] Absolutely.

[1404] Dopamine, serotonin.

[1405] But that only happens when you first meet someone, you want to fuck them because you're supposed to get them pregnant.

[1406] But the question is, the question is, why did it disappear?

[1407] It disappeared because when you met that person, both of you were operating from your creative wishes and desires.

[1408] When did it fall apart?

[1409] It was when the subconscious mind started to take over more of the operation because life started to occupy your conscious mind.

[1410] It's now traveling.

[1411] Yeah, that's when it ended.

[1412] So you hit this perfect moment and then life got in the way.

[1413] Yeah.

[1414] And guess what?

[1415] But if you reprogram the subconscious mind to have the same beliefs and wishes and desires that your conscious mind has so that both minds have the same vision and destiny, then there's a honeymoon and the rest of your life.

[1416] It doesn't end then because you put in your wishes and desire.

[1417] So even when you're not paying attention, that's when your subconscious playing.

[1418] It's still going to play the same wishes and desires that you want in your life anyway.

[1419] But right now, it plays the programs that you got from other people when you're not paying attention.

[1420] attention.

[1421] That's why you lose control over your life.

[1422] I've always said that very few people have their own opinions, that they simply have a conglomeration of other people's opinions.

[1423] They sort of adopted as their own, but they really haven't, like, audited every single one of them.

[1424] Downloaded a lot of them.

[1425] Yeah, and try to figure out why is that in there.

[1426] Yeah, and the problem, once it's downloaded, then you become a slave to the program, even if you have no desire to be in the program.

[1427] It's not your choice now.

[1428] It's unconscious.

[1429] It'll take you there whether you're paying attention or not.

[1430] And don't you think that same sort of thing has happened to pretty much everyone who's in a position of power?

[1431] So they are, in a certain sense, a victim of the same system that they're at the wheel of.

[1432] They were programmed somewhere along the line to get to that power.

[1433] So they were being driven by the program.

[1434] It's amazing when you really think about it.

[1435] One of the things that I think is really terrifying to people is that you're describing this and people are realizing this, I'm sure, right now.

[1436] But they're also realizing this is not a conventional idea that's really sort of pushed in the media.

[1437] This is not something the President of the United States addresses the nation about.

[1438] This is not necessarily something that's...

[1439] There's no money for the corporations in this process.

[1440] And when the information is expressed and people know it to be true and sort of recognize it and think, oh my God, does this mean that there was no one who has set this whole gigantic thing up, this human civilization, no one did it consciously.

[1441] No one planned it out.

[1442] They might have made the infrastructure and planned out where the The water was going to go this way anyway.

[1443] It was going to go this way.

[1444] It was going to go this way.

[1445] They planned out the electricity.

[1446] We're playing a pattern.

[1447] We're playing a pattern.

[1448] And here's the pattern.

[1449] Civilization is a living organism, an animal.

[1450] And by its definition, it's going to evolve in the same characteristic way that animals evolved.

[1451] So there was a part we went from, let's say, fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals.

[1452] The fish phase was when human civilization, earliest phase, mariculture.

[1453] They lived at the sea.

[1454] They had to live at the water.

[1455] They couldn't live without water.

[1456] They were stuck to wherever.

[1457] the water was.

[1458] Agriculture was the amphibium stage.

[1459] Why?

[1460] They took the water with them on the land so they could go deep into the land, penetrate in the land, get the water, grow all the stuff and live because you needed the water.

[1461] The reptiles stage, reptiles are the only animals that were first designed for land.

[1462] They're almost like machines.

[1463] They're almost mechanical, like when you see a lizard, like it's almost digital the way it moves.

[1464] The reptiles were the equivalent of the industrial age.

[1465] That's when we became reptilian.

[1466] And it's interesting, because we're still in that age.

[1467] And guess what?

[1468] We're fueling this civilization with what they call the the blood of the dinosaur.

[1469] We're fueling it with oil, which is the character of that reptilian phase.

[1470] And so we're living a reptilian phase of civilization.

[1471] The lizards were like mom and pop shops, but they grew into dinosaurs, which were corporations.

[1472] And the corporations evolved.

[1473] And then here comes the cool part.

[1474] The bird phase of human civilization started in 1903 when Wilbur and Orville Wright started to fly.

[1475] It changed the whole world because now you can fly around in a few hours.

[1476] It changed.

[1477] The world was so massive at one point nobody could imagine it.

[1478] Now we can fly around it and put a satellite around it.

[1479] And I say, so the birds evolved from 1903, but guess what?

[1480] They reached their fullest evolution in 1969.

[1481] 1969, the birds landed on the moon.

[1482] And they took a picture of the earth.

[1483] And those hippies back then saw this picture and created Earth Day within a month or two of the picture coming back, number one.

[1484] Number two, they said, oh, man, look at that.

[1485] We got to take care of that.

[1486] That's all we have.

[1487] Got to take care of the water, the air, take care of the kids and all that.

[1488] Taking care is the character called nurturing.

[1489] Nurturing is the character of mammals.

[1490] So in 1969, the mammalian phase of human civilization was ceded with the hippies looking and saying, oh, my God, take care of you.

[1491] each other, take care of the planet.

[1492] We generation.

[1493] It's what it was all about.

[1494] But then go back in history and recognize when the mammals first evolved, the dinosaurs were still here too.

[1495] And the dinosaurs were, you know, the big, big killer things.

[1496] And the mammals were the little meek furry guys, right?

[1497] And the fact is, they talk about the meat taking over the earth.

[1498] Well, we're in that transition.

[1499] The dinosaur is falling.

[1500] The oil is running out.

[1501] The, you know, the power that's been feeding this whole reptilian phase of corporate dinosaurs.

[1502] So the meek is actually the individuals all banded together against a united corporation or many united corporations.

[1503] It's the young people that are taking care of each other and recognizing.

[1504] So that's why this whole non -violence movement is almost prophetic.

[1505] Absolutely.

[1506] The meek shall inherit the earth.

[1507] That's what it's all about.

[1508] This is the beginning of it.

[1509] That's what it's all about.

[1510] Is someone back then who wrote the Bible or wrote any of the religious texts, did they go through this already?

[1511] No, I don't know.

[1512] You know, there's interesting things about that is I believe a lot of that we translate the Bible whatever people think today and the issue is maybe they were writing about real shit back then that really happened something happened here on this planet and upheaval occurred in that biblical time period globally and things shifted on the planet do you think it's possible that this has happened before that we just fuck the whole thing up and almost start from scratch again yes yes it seems like it's possible Lamuria Atlantis and those are a natural disasters, right?

[1513] Well, that's what we believe, but we don't know about the Lomorian was more of the natural disaster.

[1514] What about the Atlantis ones?

[1515] Still don't know what actually happened.

[1516] I thought they thought it was a tsunami.

[1517] They found it in Spain, remember?

[1518] Well, they're finding pieces all over because they're finding now that the water level is much higher than it used to be a long time ago.

[1519] And so, and everything, just like now, we live on the edges.

[1520] So if the water level raises, then anything on the edges doesn't exist anymore.

[1521] So we lost it all at some point.

[1522] But there's a time.

[1523] This has happened before, the Mayans know this, the Incas.

[1524] I mean, they created buildings that were completely earthproof designed, earthquake proof.

[1525] And they already knew that this world was going to shake and do all this kind of stuff.

[1526] How did they make earthproof?

[1527] Earthquake.

[1528] If you look at these giant blocks, I mean, they're so big by human size, I mean, they're massive stones.

[1529] They're cut with very intricate angles.

[1530] And the point about it is they're designed that if the wall shakes, the stones loosen up but then they'll all settle back down into the original resting position.

[1531] What?

[1532] Really?

[1533] Absolutely.

[1534] So they designed this knowing full well that these massive earthquakes were going to move these boulders size building blocks and yet they're designed so their angles are cut so that they loosen up in an earthquake and then fall back into, everything slides back into the right structure was before.

[1535] That's amazing.

[1536] It's amazing.

[1537] It's amazing They somehow another figured that out.

[1538] It was interesting because they built a, when the Christians came into the Spanish, and they took over the Sun Temple, which is this big Peruvian temple in Cusco.

[1539] Then the church did it, and like dogs pee one on top of the other one.

[1540] They built their church on top of the foundation, which was the Peruvian temple.

[1541] They built a church on it.

[1542] Wow.

[1543] And it's interesting, three earthquakes have demolished the church each time.

[1544] And in the three earthquakes, not one thing happened to the foundational.

[1545] building, which was the Peruvian temple.

[1546] Wow.

[1547] That's amazing.

[1548] Yeah, totally.

[1549] They knew all this stuff.

[1550] There was great technology.

[1551] There was a lot of stuff happening in those.

[1552] There's something that there are civilizations that we don't talk about in history books.

[1553] Our history book talks about, oh, the Middle East, Babylon, and all that kind of stuff.

[1554] It's a source and it's like, there were civilizations that were here and died out that were much more advanced before that.

[1555] You believe that?

[1556] Yeah.

[1557] Oh, they got enough archaeology on just showing that now.

[1558] Yeah.

[1559] There's definitely some evidence that points too that.

[1560] Everything is being revised.

[1561] That's the greatest thing about that.

[1562] Every part of our knowledge is being revised.

[1563] That's another thing that people are fighting against.

[1564] You know, when you were talking about people who are academics who have been teaching a certain thing most of their lives.

[1565] You know, that happened with a lot of this, the people that are trying to predate the sphinx.

[1566] Are you aware of all that?

[1567] Yeah.

[1568] Yeah.

[1569] Yeah.

[1570] That's, to me, that's a perfect example because these people, these Egyptologists were like, you know, where's this evidence of this culture?

[1571] And they're, you know, and like, man, how much evidence you really think there would be if you're really talking about 34 ,000 years ago or something like that, how much evidence is there going to be?

[1572] Is there really going to be anything other than blocks of stone?

[1573] I mean, when we let go of a city, how long does it take before their thing's back into sand again?

[1574] It doesn't take long.

[1575] No, not long at all.

[1576] I mean, how long would a car last if you left a car outside?

[1577] I mean, it would last even a hundred years.

[1578] I'm old enough to have a few cars I've left in the woods that are probably not there anymore.

[1579] Yeah, right, yeah, right?

[1580] You remember when kids used to do that?

[1581] I remember when dudes used to have cars that would just sit on blocks and you'd see fucking trees.

[1582] growing in their car.

[1583] We had a mountain near where we lived, and we'd go by these junkers, you know, cars that were burning oil and people didn't want, really, pay 10, 15 bucks, drive them up to the top of this hill, and then we use them like a dirt track and just, you know, cut through the weeds and all kinds of stuff like that, and just ran them into the ground until they finally, so it was like 10 or 15 bucks for the investment, and then spend a day or two playing, you know, bumper cars.

[1584] Oh, that's awesome.

[1585] Before we were aware that we could hurt ourselves.

[1586] yeah when you're young and silly a friend of mine had a van and he parked it in his uh is like garage area never fucking used it just it was all broken down a junkie and one day we went into it and there was a plant growing out of his floor mat and I was like dude I was looking at this like dude nature's going to eat this fucking nature's going to slowly figure out a way to eat your truck it just we're seeing like day 70 something that's going to take a million days but it'll eat this fucking thing it'll be nothing left And that's why people say, well, there'd be leftover things.

[1587] It's like most of our stuff will be gone in a short time.

[1588] Yeah, just stone.

[1589] That's about it.

[1590] Which is really terrifying to me because now we're moving into this digital era and everything is getting put down on ones and zeros and data that you have to...

[1591] And we're also going to hit an era of sunspot activity that's going to be outrageous, which means all that memory is going to go, gone.

[1592] Oh, that's so ridiculous.

[1593] Could you imagine if that happened and there was just some super big gamma burst that fucking erased everyone's hard drive?

[1594] Everyone all over the world.

[1595] Can you imagine?

[1596] No one knows anything anymore.

[1597] We go right back to fucking, from Wikipedia, we have to go find some books and a library and shit.

[1598] Lander the Desert, 40 years in darkness.

[1599] God damn.

[1600] If that happens, I don't know what I want to do.

[1601] I really don't know.

[1602] I don't know if I want to get swept up in the fucking hurricanes that kill people or if I want to try to repopulate.

[1603] I just hope my DVD player and my television keep working because I'll just watch movies as the sunset continues.

[1604] Really?

[1605] You just watch movies?

[1606] Just hang out on my.

[1607] a hilltop and you think you'd be comfortable on your hilltop by yourself how long if you knew that the rest of the world was dead were the rest of you were like that dude remember ernest borgnine in the twilight zone remember that he was so happy that the world exploded because he was inside of a vault and he came out and he's like all these books i can read these books then he dropped his glasses and broke them oh yeah there's a problem yeah yeah but he was so excited before that he was so excited to be alone with books do you think you could rocket like that i could do it for a period of time.

[1608] I did it in the Caribbean a lot, so that was...

[1609] By yourself?

[1610] Oh, yeah.

[1611] That's what I kept...

[1612] My line never got fulfilled.

[1613] I and there I am by myself.

[1614] So what would you do down there?

[1615] Oh, man, well, there's, uh...

[1616] First thing, I started living more outdoors than I ever did before because I was always a laboratory scientist, so it was like...

[1617] But you were completely by yourself down there?

[1618] You didn't have any interaction with people?

[1619] No, I taught a class with...

[1620] Oh, see, that ain't the same.

[1621] Oh, no, no, no. You got to...

[1622] We're talking about, like, if you were the last dude on Earth, how long would be able to deal with it?

[1623] You were teaching a class.

[1624] That's such a...

[1625] That's such a big difference.

[1626] It'd be like Tom Hanks' castaway thing.

[1627] It probably wouldn't last very long in a good state.

[1628] Yeah, you would commit suicide.

[1629] You'd be friends with a ball.

[1630] You'd be angry.

[1631] You'd get angry after a while, right?

[1632] Wilson!

[1633] Don't you think you'd probably...

[1634] Yeah, I think the human animal...

[1635] And that's a fascinating thing about people, is that we need each other so much that we get sad when there's no one else around.

[1636] Actually, in biological understanding, it's inconceivable, it's just a quote, it's inconceivable to think of an organism ever living by itself.

[1637] organism ever lived.

[1638] Isn't it amazing though?

[1639] Because you definitely need some alone time.

[1640] You know, why can't we balance that shit out?

[1641] Right?

[1642] Because, you know, I do like watching TV by myself.

[1643] When everyone's asleep, I'm alone, I like it.

[1644] If I'm staying at a hotel room, I'm like, ooh, I get to watch whatever the fuck I want to watch and no one's going to talk to me right now.

[1645] Like, you like that.

[1646] You like being alone.

[1647] But ultimately, if it stayed that way, you would be miserable.

[1648] You would be hard.

[1649] No, but that's what makes coming home even the better.

[1650] Yeah, it's a weird sort of a pulsating back and forth thing.

[1651] Just like everything seems to be.

[1652] Mr. Lipton.

[1653] Why is it all go like that?

[1654] There's a pull and a push.

[1655] There's a battle going on right now.

[1656] Everything's vibration, Joe.

[1657] How do we fix this fucking thing?

[1658] Start thinking differently.

[1659] Start thinking in a way of, let's start living in harmony with each other and let go of the system.

[1660] That's easy for you to say that.

[1661] What about people with bills and people live in shitty neighborhoods?

[1662] They just three steps to fix it.

[1663] All that stuff's going to fall apart.

[1664] I really believe we are going to go into a state of chaos, not that far into the future.

[1665] So my Fear Factor money's fucked.

[1666] It's no good.

[1667] No, spend it now and get all the things you want right now.

[1668] Because it won't be worth anything soon, right?

[1669] No, the money is not going to be worth anything.

[1670] When do you think money is going to not be worth anything?

[1671] Because that's how we've been manipulated.

[1672] No, no, but I'm saying, like, how much time do we have left to buy shit?

[1673] Seven months.

[1674] How much time do you think?

[1675] I have no idea, but it's surprising me how fast some of the changes have occurred.

[1676] So since I, because the book, Evolution that I wrote was, what, just a couple of years ago.

[1677] And stuff that I was talking about is now beginning to manifest already.

[1678] especially with like Occupy Wall Street, meaning people are pulling out of the system, and that's all it begins.

[1679] Once they start pulling out critical level, the system will stop.

[1680] Yeah, but how are they pulling out of the system by just like...

[1681] Because they're not even being able to participate.

[1682] They can't even get a damn job.

[1683] How does people eating?

[1684] How's that all working?

[1685] People feeding them?

[1686] Community.

[1687] People are feeding them?

[1688] Community is the necessary step of evolution, and that's what will keep people alive.

[1689] If people learn to live in community, they'll always be a support system.

[1690] But if they try to do it without community, it's not going to work.

[1691] that's what seems to be going on with this Occupy Wall Street thing is that this is the biggest number of people that are willing to hang out together outdoors that I've ever seen.

[1692] It has become, they're united in this.

[1693] You know Jamie Kielstein?

[1694] You remember Jamie Kielstein from the podcast?

[1695] My buddy, he's an, every fucking day, I look at his Twitter, it's pound sign OWS, like everything is Occupy Wall Street.

[1696] He even went to Australia.

[1697] He was on vacation over there or working on, I don't know what he was doing, but he went to Occupy Melbourne.

[1698] I mean, like, dude, settle the fuck down.

[1699] in your country.

[1700] You don't even know what their argument is.

[1701] Maybe you'd be on the banker side over here.

[1702] I don't know.

[1703] I'm just talking shit.

[1704] But it's amazing how much, like it becomes a community.

[1705] It really becomes, you know, all these people that are supporting Occupy Wall Street, they're united in this thing.

[1706] And they feel like they are the only thing that is going to stop the tyranny.

[1707] They're the only thing that's going to step forward and say, enough is enough.

[1708] And hopefully something comes out of it.

[1709] But no one knows what.

[1710] The definition of humanity is community.

[1711] it doesn't work if it's not a community so basically that's the motivation and look at the consequence of this and the reason it is we have been systematically deprived of community over time.

[1712] At first local neighborhoods and then even in a family home when they put the television's in there and all of a sudden the family's not even working as a community it was the last piece of it and all of a sudden there was no community anywhere and that's why people are coming together.

[1713] The family's watching television robs them in the community?

[1714] at some point it did because you watch some of it can you watch like one show?

[1715] Oh I love it I watch the news I watch John Stewart That's my only tell you Well that 30 Rock I need to laugh every now and then Well John Stewart's hilarious And that shows the perfect example For me Of what a comic can do With just the regular real news The real reality of this world That we live it in Especially in and do it Dressed like them You know wearing a suit Sitting in front of a desk like them I just telling the truth has become humorous at some point, isn't it?

[1716] Well, the way John Stewart does it.

[1717] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1718] So what do you suggest that people do?

[1719] They have to change the way they think.

[1720] They have to buy your book.

[1721] No, no, no, no, they have to buy anything.

[1722] Buy the fucking a book, folks.

[1723] Don't listen to that.

[1724] It's called The Biology of Belief by Bruce H. Lipton, Ph .D. And that's very important, that PhD part.

[1725] There was something there at one point.

[1726] All right.

[1727] No, more than you, stupid.

[1728] Where did you go to school?

[1729] graduate school University of Virginia and was that in the during the summer of love and all that crazy time?

[1730] Absolutely and so it's so unfortunate because What was it like to see that happen?

[1731] Hunter Thompson had that great line about you know seeing that and then seeing the tide roll back you know and seeing it the one time like being in during the 60s in San Francisco and the acid culture and seeing what's possible and then seeing it all pull back what is it like to you it was the most exciting time I can experience that I have experience on this planet because every day we get up and we didn't know what was, something was, we knew something was going to happen every day because everybody's like, it was on the edge, it was like beginning to burn, so something was happening every day.

[1732] What was it like to mean?

[1733] So a person, you know, I'm, I don't, I'm not that familiar with like what it felt like, when you say like that something was going to happen.

[1734] What was going on?

[1735] This was the Vietnam War.

[1736] The Vietnam War was going, and there were protests against the war.

[1737] The first was students congregated together.

[1738] against parents and the community.

[1739] And so there was like Occupy Wall Street with a little bit more anger to it and a little bit more, you know, real heavy, heavy protests going on, much more.

[1740] And it was because of Vietnam?

[1741] Yeah, absolutely.

[1742] And at some point it's because people started to wake up and say, wait, this is, you know, what's this war all about?

[1743] There was no reason for the war.

[1744] Right.

[1745] And there was the reason for the Vietnam War.

[1746] What was the real?

[1747] Oil.

[1748] Oil.

[1749] Oil, yeah.

[1750] And control of the drug trade, which is, you know, it was a reason for the war.

[1751] part of a CIA thing.

[1752] And this was on television.

[1753] In fact, this guy, Bill Moyers, one of the best news guys, because he was like a real honest guy, you know.

[1754] He had a program on that.

[1755] It was years ago, people don't remember it.

[1756] It was like, it was called the shadow government.

[1757] And you can see it on the web, and it's great because it's play right now.

[1758] It's the exact same thing.

[1759] And it turned out the CIA was a funded organization of the government.

[1760] It was like on a budget, right?

[1761] But then they found out that they could precipitate a war in a place and have all the local people buy all the guns from them.

[1762] But then you say, well, yeah, but the local people in these places in the jungle, where the hell do they get all the money?

[1763] And in fact, oh, they didn't have any money.

[1764] Oh, what they had?

[1765] Coke, morphine, marijuana.

[1766] And so the exchange was not, and this was on Bill Moyer's show.

[1767] He had a CIA guy there say that they linked up with a mafia.

[1768] And so this was, you know, this is on the show on PBS.

[1769] And they linked up the mafia with what?

[1770] The CIA would carry the guns to this country, make money, sell it to both sides, essentially.

[1771] And then, because they didn't have money, they were getting paid in all this, you know, Coke or whatever the hell it was.

[1772] And then they'd fly that back in and CIA planes into the states.

[1773] And then the mafia would take it from there and pay them back.

[1774] So they got into a circle.

[1775] But the point was this.

[1776] They ended up making more money from the guns and drug trade than the budget.

[1777] What was the point?

[1778] They didn't need the budget anymore.

[1779] They started operating independently.

[1780] They were making, that's what Halliburton and all this stuff came from.

[1781] they started operating independent of the government because they were making more money creating the wars and getting involved with the drug and the gun trade.

[1782] And this was explained to people and it's like today the same issue with me. It's like, oh my God, what are we going to do about it?

[1783] Nothing.

[1784] It's just like that's the way it is and everybody walked away.

[1785] It's like it's just the same thing today with these things I hear.

[1786] It's like, what are we going to do about it?

[1787] Nothing.

[1788] Well, Michael Rupert, the guy who are talking about who's the guy who was the star of that movie, collapse, you know, when we were talking about us.

[1789] He was a cop and he actually caught them selling drugs in, you know, bad neighborhoods and was told to drop the whole case and testified about it.

[1790] That's why marijuana is illegal.

[1791] There's more money for the industry.

[1792] If it's illegal, if it's legal, the whole damn thing collapses.

[1793] So there's so much money that's being paid at every level, of course, to the police and every other level.

[1794] Yeah, marijuana is one of my favorites.

[1795] Yeah.

[1796] The fact that that's illegal and cigarettes are legal.

[1797] Well, there you go.

[1798] Logic falls out the window.

[1799] Yeah, that's all the best evidence whatsoever that you're being fucked.

[1800] There's more money in making it illegal than legal.

[1801] So is there a book you recommend?

[1802] Is there a pattern of thinking that you recommend?

[1803] I mean, how can people sort of wake themselves up out of the state they're in now and sort of evolve past the situation that we're at now together?

[1804] Knowledge is power.

[1805] We've got to start looking at the knowledge.

[1806] It's knowledge, but it's also like you have to have an answer.

[1807] ethic.

[1808] You have to have a way of thinking.

[1809] Yeah, and you have to look for the knowledge because it's not the knowledge you're going to get in conventional school and the conventional textbook.

[1810] That's selling a program.

[1811] We've been playing that program for years.

[1812] And that's why war after war, we all go, oh, another war, another war.

[1813] It's like somebody's been playing us so beautifully.

[1814] And it's time, it's stop, it's not working anymore because they tap the system dry.

[1815] Now we've got masses of people with, there's no money for them.

[1816] What are you going to do?

[1817] That means that you're going to have a movement of people that It's just like the haves and the have -nots, and they're so in balance, 99 -1, man. And so eventually somehow or another, it's going to work itself out probably when the old people die.

[1818] That's one of the best ways of making the change.

[1819] And you notice, just in the last, I think it was eight years, six, eight years, the survey of people wanting legal marijuana went from 36 % about six or eight years ago.

[1820] It's up to 50, 51 % right now.

[1821] now.

[1822] So it says, geez, in a few years, you know, that older group that's got their claws onto the system are dying, you know, like cheney kind of people and stuff like that.

[1823] Because that's the most successful way to get rid of.

[1824] But the best thing that's going to happen is recognizing if you stop playing the economic game with them, get out of their game.

[1825] They can't survive.

[1826] Right.

[1827] And so that's why a whole new economy and a whole new way of communicating and a whole new way of community is what is the evolutionary point.

[1828] A disconnect from the structure and a rebuilding of something new and better.

[1829] How long is this going to take?

[1830] A few years, not very many.

[1831] I'd say within a decade.

[1832] Wow.

[1833] Yeah, it's going to happen very quick.

[1834] Within a decade, we're going to have a total new government new setup.

[1835] It's going to be such an upheaval that something, it will not be anywhere of what it is right now within a decade.

[1836] Well, listen, man, I know you have a train that you have to catch.

[1837] Yeah.

[1838] So we're going to, we'll come back because I have to talk about some other stuff.

[1839] but I want to thank you very much for coming on the podcast.

[1840] And I want to tell people to buy your book.

[1841] It's called The Biology of Belief, Bruce H. Lipton, Ph .D. and I'm sure you can get it on Amazon, right?

[1842] Doug .com, D -U -G -G -E -D .com.

[1843] And there's a great website, mindbook .w .S. Mindbook .org .com.

[1844] And this is your social networking site.

[1845] It's a social networking site.

[1846] This is yours, right?

[1847] No, no, no. This is another community.

[1848] And people that are thinking outside the box.

[1849] and providing information from outside.

[1850] Mindbook .w .w .W .S. And it's just a group of hippies, essentially.

[1851] Yeah, yeah, young hippies.

[1852] The new age hippies.

[1853] Thank you very much for coming.

[1854] I really appreciate it.

[1855] I'm going to pause for a minute, and then we're going to be back in about 15 minutes after we say goodbye.