#636 - Bryan Callen

[0] Oh shit, we're live.

[1] Beatboxing, Brian Callant shows another hidden skill.

[2] Dance straight, hey.

[3] This last weekend, we just learned he speaks fluent gay rapist French.

[4] I part French, it's true, my friend.

[5] The hardest things I ever laughed at is you doing your French rapist character.

[6] Yeah.

[7] Talking to Stephen L. About explaining him how to, assuming you were saying tighten up his ass because you were going to come inside of it.

[8] Something like that.

[9] You're doing it all.

[10] perfectly enunciated French.

[11] That's right.

[12] I think he shocked him.

[13] I think he did not know.

[14] He was laughing so hard.

[15] He was actually crying.

[16] The camera guy, the camera guys who are pros.

[17] These guys are goddamn pros.

[18] They keep it together.

[19] The guy gave in and was laughing out loud while holding the camera.

[20] He couldn't help it.

[21] We were all crying.

[22] And also, he knew this was never going to get on the fucking sportsman channel.

[23] It's not going to get on a sportsman channel.

[24] I wish they would release it on the web.

[25] The ravine comer Why don't we have those The footage is there I think there's some concern That the hunting folk Would abandon us Oh because they don't like French rapists And ravine comers Don't like these goddamn comedians Coming in and gaying up Our fine American pastime The hunting folk Some of the hunting folk Look most hunting people Are like most people Most people are cool as fuck I maintain this.

[26] I really do believe this.

[27] I believe that most people are great.

[28] It is a very small percentage of people.

[29] It took me a long -ass time to figure this out.

[30] Just the sheer numbers.

[31] It's just that when something goes wrong, it's so disturbing for us that we get upset and we lump all other folks into the same category that that person came from, almost to protect ourselves.

[32] Yeah.

[33] And, you know, it's a prejudice.

[34] And, like, having a prejudice towards people who live in the South or having a prejudice towards anything it's all the same any kind of prejudice like it's not against another team their fans it's not a nicer prejudiced because they just have a southern accent they live down there and you just you think it's cute to think they're retarded right no that's goddamn prejudice those are people right if you thought they were retarded because they were black you'd be a piece of shit right right but you can think that they're retarded just because they talk like this like some of them they talk like this are actually super intelligent people that's right just they choose to keep their accent I've spoken to professors that are like a strong Houston, Texas accent.

[35] And the guy was genius as fuck.

[36] Exactly.

[37] Smarter than me. We are tribal.

[38] People are just tribal.

[39] It's really easy to do that.

[40] Those guys over there, I don't like people from West Virginia or whatever.

[41] I don't like them goddamn comedians.

[42] They're smoking weed and they're talking hunting, and that's not what hunting's about.

[43] When hunting's about is how I do it.

[44] I get up in the morning and I face the east.

[45] Or is that Muslims?

[46] No, that's Muslims.

[47] Now see, now you're a traitor and now you just exposed yourself.

[48] No, no, no, no, no, no. I meant, uh, I praised Jesus to the east, west, north, and south.

[49] No, you said to east.

[50] I mean you're, no, no, no, no, I'm not an, I swear to God, I am not a pale face terrorist.

[51] I think you are.

[52] What is that, what is that expression?

[53] There's an expression, oh, clean skin, clean face, clean, clean skin terrorist.

[54] I don't know, I haven't heard of it.

[55] That expression is for like the Timothy McVease.

[56] Oh.

[57] The ones you don't see coming, because they look like, like, like, good old -fashioned American boys.

[58] Yeah, what is the term?

[59] See what you can find what with that term is chain militia i think it's called clean skin terrorist that's what they they think of as like some homegrown nutty dude i was listening to this fucking radio lab podcast about these dudes these white supremacist dudes that were planning this mass murder and they were infiltrated by the fbi i jesus it was fascinating man god damn that national public radio podcast radio lab is one of the best things ever not just like on podcast but as far as like as a movie, if it was a movie, it would be one of the best things ever.

[60] It was a TV show.

[61] It would be one of the best things ever.

[62] You turn me on two things when we're hunting.

[63] Dan Carlin's hardcore history, I'm obsessed.

[64] By the way, you want to talk about a guy doing the world of service.

[65] If you want to learn history, and you're talking to a history major, I read all the books, blah, blah, blah, I take courses from the teaching company.

[66] If you want to learn history, go to Dan Carlin's hardcore history.

[67] I have never, I've listened to great professors.

[68] I've never heard anybody kind of break down history as a story where you, you just can't wait for the next podcast.

[69] And then Radio Lab, which I've always listened to NPR, and sometimes they have those on there, but Radio Lab is pretty amazing.

[70] It's off the charts amazing.

[71] It's so good.

[72] So it is clean -skinned.

[73] A clean -skinned terrorist is a potential attacker with a spotless record whose documents don't arouse suspicion.

[74] Wow.

[75] Well, you've got to think, like, every terrorist, every dude who blows a fuse, there has to be, like, there's a moment where you could get to, like, a sort of.

[76] certain age you could be like pretty nutty and get to a certain age without a criminal record yeah and then you're all the time you're like building up for the one big nutty event those are the scary guys that inside live inside and then they're just waiting for action yeah they're terrified and they're fantasizing they're going over in their head going over and ahead and then they finally explode now how do those guys get made is that nature or nurture isn't that isn't that the ultimate question because if we could stop all people that would wantonly want you want to want to create war for profit, if we could stop all people that would act in the name of global aggression for financial gain, if we could stop all that, we would all do it, and then we would have a way crazier world.

[77] If we had a world where everybody was basically really nice, yeah, although you're suggesting in the way you frame that, you're assuming that people that are aggressive or create aggression or the are the aggressors are doing it only for a lot of people think this only for certain negative things like money conquest territory the problem is that aggression a lot of times can be fostered in groups of people if they think that another country is actually going to hurt them in the future it can be very much useful in a self -defense capacity or at least justified that way and always has been absolutely and i don't think you'll ever get I don't think you'll ever get rid of aggression and you probably shouldn't.

[78] I think it's part of the order of the universe.

[79] What I think you have to do is this, the biggest threat is, you know, one thing that's always kind of confounding about life is that it takes so long to build something.

[80] It takes so long to build a complete human being.

[81] It takes so long to build something like the Sistine Chapel, and it's so easy to destroy.

[82] One motivated fanatic with a, you know, a large enough bomb on his back could blow up.

[83] you know, St. Peter's Cathedral or could kill, I don't know how many people.

[84] And that's what's so hard is that the things that take so long to build are so easy to destroy.

[85] And as technology grows, it's going to become more and more a factor and more and more of reality where one person or a small group can get their hands on devastating technology to destroy, you know, something impossibly huge.

[86] So that's the bigger question.

[87] I think aggression is always going to be around.

[88] And when you say, you know, I wonder how those people are made, I don't know that it's going to be done by that one crazy, because one crazy can't get his hands on massive amounts of weaponry.

[89] He's usually one guy and he carries a gun and he does enough damage.

[90] Well, how about these kids in the Boston bombings?

[91] I mean, they were fairly clean -skinned.

[92] They were, and they didn't do, they killed, I think, six people.

[93] I can't remember what the thing is, but that's always tragic.

[94] What I'm saying is that the bigger threat is less aggression and more sort of warped ideology that moves and motivates a large group of people into aggression.

[95] Right.

[96] That's what I worry about.

[97] And that's where I think you know...

[98] So when you say aggression, you don't mean aggression like hostile takeover of countries type aggression.

[99] You mean just like male behavior?

[100] Like, what do you mean?

[101] When you say aggression?

[102] I think aggression in this context is typically a military sense.

[103] Something that causes massive destruction, irreparable harm to infrastructure and to populations and for example what's going on in Iraq with ISIS right when you hear the news if you just listen to the news ISIS is this terrible group of fanatics yes they are and they kill lots of people it's a much deeper problem you know they're talking about what do you do about ISIS well do you bomb the shit out of the problem is they're they're ingrained in the Sunni towns and population and they have a lot of support by the Sunnis why why do these fanatical guys have support from the Sunni population has nothing to do with whether those Sunni people who are good people, like you just said, most people are really good people, they are giving support to a fanatical group of people because they are their best hedge and their best bet against what's called Shia aggression in their eyes.

[104] So the Shia, the Shia who dominate the south of Iraq, who sit on most of the oil down there, if the Sunnis don't cut out a little place for themselves using this crazy group called ISIS.

[105] They could be left in the future in real fucking trouble.

[106] And so again, now we're talking about they're using aggression in their eyes as a form of self -defense.

[107] If you were in a Sunni Iraqi, you'd have a very different idea and context of what ISIS is as opposed to you and I who get our information.

[108] And again, there's nothing to admire about those guys.

[109] They're ruthless killers.

[110] But it's just interesting that you and I look at that as aggression on a one, you You know, one side of the lot of those people are using ISIS as self -defense.

[111] Aggression is justified.

[112] Yeah, they're terrible, but we need them against the Shia.

[113] So, it's hard for someone who lives in California in 2015 to wrap their head around what's going on in other parts of the world right now.

[114] Unless you, I mean, even like what I've seen of it, I haven't seen enough.

[115] My seeing of it is all two -dimensional.

[116] You know, I couldn't imagine.

[117] I couldn't fucking imagine.

[118] It's one of the biggest problems we're going to have with people that have seen it and don't have to imagine anymore, trying to forget it, trying to be normal again.

[119] You ask a fucking hell of a lot of people, and how do you help them through that?

[120] And what kind of counseling, mental health counseling?

[121] I hope it's comprehensive.

[122] It's a really good question because they always say after a war and after the revolution, after whatever happens and a country settles, everybody always forgets about the victims.

[123] There's never really any kind of infrastructure to help people in Sierra Leone that got their arms hacked off that saw their kids killed in front of them and stuff like that.

[124] Is it possible that because of the ability that we have right now to translate languages so quickly, you know, which is really unprecedented?

[125] It's something that people don't think about that much, but there's all sorts of software now just on a regular phone that can look at images and translate them to English on your screen.

[126] They, you could have, ask questions and have those questions immediately translated into Spanish.

[127] There's all these programs they have now.

[128] Like, it's way easier to understand other languages than it ever has been before, like, to decipher actual text in real time.

[129] That really never existed before.

[130] No. And that kind of technology is going to slowly but surely break down a lot of barriers and a lot of, like, ideas that we have about each other.

[131] Well, less so language, and I think more so the fact that we can not only see suffering in real time with cameras in the internet, but we can also, we are also starting to see that cultures, whether they're Indian or South Korea, are really similar to Americans.

[132] You know, with K -pop, I mean, Korea's got all their K -pop and stuff, but more importantly, when you see their artistic expressions, they're making movies, Slumdog Millionaire, you see an Indian kid who has the same dreams and aspiration as anybody does.

[133] I think that goes a longer way in bringing people into sort of a collective notion, and it already has, people like Stephen Pinker would argue, that it's becoming easier to identify with other people's suffering because we identify with a lot of aspects of how they live their lives to begin with.

[134] It's no longer like, who are those strange people with dark skin?

[135] And nowadays, you know, people are dressing the same no matter where you go.

[136] You know, I got to recognize on the plane from a woman from Bombay, from Mumbai, because she watches how I met your mother and told me all her friends love how I met your mother.

[137] And she was flipping out that the guy from how I met your mother was sitting next door.

[138] And she had a heavy accent.

[139] She was, you know, talking like, I can't believe I'm watching, you know, I'm going to watch all my friends.

[140] Like, can I take a picture what I do?

[141] She was so excited.

[142] And she had this heavy Indian.

[143] accent and I thought that is that never would have happened no you never would happen and so we are sharing artistic experience we're sharing experience in high relief usually in movies and TV and that's in a lot of ways that's gonna go a lot farther than being able to cop download a language because I think that's always gonna take more time well if we all just spoke the same language it would be really fucking boring that's true but it would be really cool if we understood what the fuck everybody was saying all the time you know I think it would it would smooth out a lot of shit between people I really got to think that like if we could have like real time conversations with like Kim Jong -un yeah you know if you could have a real time conversation with that dude and sit down and go what is your life like like explain to me like what was what was childhood like for you what's the environment around you all the time he's a real he's a real life king He's a monarch One of the few remaining He's not He lives like a king And he was raised like a prince And Dennis Rodman's his home boy Dennis Robbins was a great Spokesman for him wasn't he Dennis Rodman comes down And hangs with that dude And plays basketball and shit And then leaves Like what kind of fucking Bizarro reality TV world Are we living in Where Dennis Rodman Just hops on private jets And hangs out with the king of North Korea Be the greatest reality show ever made him and Kim Jong me and me and the king that's like Rocky Marziano hanging out and Mussolini what do they talk about what do they talk about look at them there together having a good old time do you think he's freaked out at all about the amount of metal that's in Rodman's face I know I am that freaks him out God look at that that is such a strange thing yeah look at him he's a king I mean didn't he have his uncle his own uncle eaten by wild dogs or something what Yeah.

[144] Oh, that's right.

[145] Yeah.

[146] He assassinated him.

[147] That's his uncle.

[148] I was thinking about Rodman.

[149] I was like, Rodman did that?

[150] Had his uncle killed.

[151] I blame the weed.

[152] Look at that.

[153] His uncle apparently was trying to organize a coup.

[154] Yeah.

[155] So he killed, I believe he killed everyone.

[156] He killed the family, everyone in the family except the wife.

[157] And he gave the wife like a raise.

[158] Really?

[159] Promoted her to a better position.

[160] Really?

[161] After he killed her husband.

[162] Yeah.

[163] Interesting.

[164] Something along those lines.

[165] I might be making that up.

[166] It's like, it's real Gammish throne shit.

[167] Yeah, it is.

[168] I mean, he really did kill his uncle and then his uncle's sons, so his uncle's sons couldn't take revenge on him.

[169] The Russians were good at that.

[170] Cruz Chavez and used to do that and Stalin.

[171] Oh, my God.

[172] You get rid of everybody.

[173] Saddam Hussein used to do that.

[174] Saddam Hussein, who was it?

[175] He was talking about that.

[176] I was at Helmut Schroeder.

[177] One of the ex -German premieres went to meet.

[178] He said, I want to, where's the, I want to say hi to the, the ambassador, the German ambassador, who I've known for 10 years.

[179] They said he was unfortunately, he was executed for treason.

[180] And he was like, he'd known him for a long time and he was really kind of taken aback.

[181] And it's like, oh, that really makes me upset.

[182] And he goes, well, can I see the family?

[183] I got to know the family.

[184] I'd like to give them my condolences.

[185] The family is no longer around either.

[186] And he told that story.

[187] I think it was on Charlie Rose or something where they killed his whole family.

[188] That's real.

[189] I mean And again, like you were saying We have no idea what it's like We're so lucky We're so lucky we can walk away From things we don't like Because most of the world has to live With something they don't like Including a government That tells them what to do And tells them where to live And tells them where they're going I don't know if this is propaganda or not I don't know if it's bullshit or not I'm just telling you what I read That they were putting people in jail If they didn't cry hard enough when Kim Jong -il died.

[190] Some were getting six months of hard labor.

[191] For not crying hard.

[192] Yes, because they were not grieving hard enough.

[193] So you see these pictures of them beating their chest and crying, party members, crying for, you know, nobody wanted to be the first person to stop crying.

[194] So they're crying for hours.

[195] Oh, my God.

[196] This is madness.

[197] Yeah.

[198] That's like group madness.

[199] Like that's what North Korea is.

[200] It's like group madness.

[201] Yeah.

[202] It's like you're watching what happens when you allow like these really ancient, horrific methods of dictatorship.

[203] And they do.

[204] They do even worse.

[205] If you really fucked up, they'll put you in the coal mines and you never leave.

[206] You never come out of the coal mine.

[207] So you don't get any sunlight.

[208] So your skin starts to fall off.

[209] But you don't leave.

[210] You're not getting up.

[211] You're living in the coal mine.

[212] Oh, my God.

[213] It is so bad.

[214] Punish for not crying.

[215] Thousands of North Koreans face labor camps for not in labor.

[216] Oh my God, upset enough about the death of Kim Jong -il.

[217] That is insane.

[218] It's amazing.

[219] I guess that's the only way to run a culture.

[220] If you're going to run it that way as a dictator, you have to have everybody absolutely terrified all the time, so no one takes a chance.

[221] Wow.

[222] How can you maintain that?

[223] How the fuck are they maintaining that?

[224] If your family might get put in jail or killed, you'll do it.

[225] I know, but I mean, it's amazing.

[226] I mean, it has to be at, like, a boiling point.

[227] Could you imagine?

[228] Look at that.

[229] These poor people.

[230] Even the kids, they move you, and they move, they move you, like, you're designated where you live in North Korea, the neighborhood you live in.

[231] If your family was against or for the original founder of North Korea, Kim Jong -il's father, if he was, if they were in opposition to him, you live in a very shitty neighborhood.

[232] If they were allied to him, you're three generations later, you live in a good neighborhood.

[233] Oh, my God.

[234] Yeah.

[235] That's crazy.

[236] Good stuff there.

[237] Nice guy.

[238] He apparently was mad during the famine in the 90s that people were eating the dogs, were eating Korean dogs.

[239] It's like, there are national, you know, the Jindo is like one of our national treasures, and these people are eating the dogs.

[240] He was all irritated.

[241] It's a good guy.

[242] Yeah.

[243] That's the worst country in the world, and it's always rated that that way.

[244] It's just so crazy to think that someone's able to pull that off in this day and age.

[245] Well, he's got nuclear weapons.

[246] Thank you, Pakistan.

[247] It's just, I just have a hard time believing that that can be maintained, but yet here it is.

[248] The fact that it's still here in 2015 is pretty nuts.

[249] This is like really late in the terms of civilization to have a full -on dictator like that.

[250] We're like, look at those people crying again.

[251] Could you imagine any sort of a scene like that in America if a guy died who was the king?

[252] God, look at that.

[253] Look at all that.

[254] So these poor people are just faking, crying.

[255] Yeah.

[256] Everybody terrified to not...

[257] They all have handkerchiefs.

[258] To stop crying too soon.

[259] God.

[260] Oh, my God.

[261] It is.

[262] It's madness.

[263] It's probably what a lot of history was about when you had a king, and he was absolute ruler.

[264] and if he was a sociopath, luckily, if you were lucky, you got a good king, somebody who wasn't crazy.

[265] God damn, dude, that is the nuttiest shit of all nutty shit.

[266] The fact that there's still a country of millions of people that live like that.

[267] Yeah, I know.

[268] God damn.

[269] That's terrifying.

[270] And whenever, you know, people talk about privilege, white privilege, black privilege, whatever kind of privilege you might have, heterosexual privilege, here's the biggest privilege.

[271] Not having to live like, though.

[272] folks exactly and that's number one above all else but isn't that isn't that the reason one of the good big reasons to at least read the newspaper a little history or know what's going on in the world have some perspective any way you can get it yeah you know yeah that mean that term white privilege like people don't like that term people get mad which usually means there's some validity to it when everybody's if anybody says like white privilege and you see a white dude roll in his eyes you might have a little racist in your buddy I might have a weird conversation with you and have to go, wait, what?

[273] No, Obama's not a Muslim.

[274] No, no, no, no. I had a conversation with a friend like that.

[275] He was in the middle of the conversation.

[276] Obama was the biggest Muslim in the country.

[277] I go, no, he's not.

[278] What are you talking about?

[279] Why are you saying shit like that, man?

[280] There's no evidence that he's a Muslim at all.

[281] No, none, zero.

[282] Yeah.

[283] By the way, his dad was Kenyan and Muslim, but he didn't know his dad very well.

[284] He grew up in Hawaii, right?

[285] But the dude's not living, like, some secret life where he's ready to blow up America.

[286] from the inside.

[287] That's these dumb asses thing.

[288] He doesn't have a callus on the middle of his head where he prays every day, which is...

[289] Did they really get a callus?

[290] You're supposed to.

[291] If you're very pious in Islam, you get a, you get a dark, darker.

[292] The skin in that area where you touch your head to the floor is darker than the rest of your skin.

[293] That's when you know somebody's really, really religious.

[294] So it's like the cauliflower ear of the Islam world?

[295] Wow, it's a badge of courage.

[296] Pretty wild, right?

[297] What happens if you're a pussy, you want like a little, little pillow, a little soft pillow?

[298] Do they get mad at you?

[299] Don't the Orthodox Jews wear something like that?

[300] like that when they pray?

[301] I don't know.

[302] I do not know what their practice is.

[303] Well, I know you're thinking about saying.

[304] They're showing these guys with dark spots in their forehead.

[305] Oh, my God.

[306] Journey just pulled up all these photos of these guys are these super dark spots in their forehead.

[307] Yeah, that's when you know that you've got to just know that he's very religious.

[308] Look at that old dude with the glasses down there.

[309] He's got like a hole in his head.

[310] Well, that is, yes, Yaziri.

[311] Scroll down a little bit, Jerry?

[312] That's Osama bin Laden's right -hand man, that guy.

[313] Yeah, that guy right there.

[314] And he's a bad guy.

[315] He's got a hole in his head.

[316] Yeah, Zahariri.

[317] That's the Egyptian doctor who is Osama bin Laden's right -hand man. He's still at large.

[318] Can you make that photo larger?

[319] Is that possible?

[320] Still at large.

[321] Bad guy.

[322] Jesus Christ.

[323] The axis forbidden.

[324] Yeah, he's a doctor, too.

[325] Jesus Christ, look at his forehead, dude.

[326] Yep.

[327] That man, I never heard of this before.

[328] This is insane.

[329] Brian Callan, you teach me something new every time we talk.

[330] You smart bitch, you.

[331] Come on.

[332] Look at that forehead, man. That's crazy.

[333] That dude has worn a hole in his head.

[334] Yeah.

[335] That's like it looks, I mean, it's hard to tell because it's fairly low resolution.

[336] But whatever that is.

[337] Not a good guy, by the way.

[338] He and Osama were good buddies.

[339] He's still alive.

[340] He's still out there.

[341] They don't know where he is.

[342] Whoa.

[343] The Egyptian doctor.

[344] That's amazing.

[345] Yeah.

[346] Very religious.

[347] And very violent.

[348] We live in a movie.

[349] We really do.

[350] We really live in a movie.

[351] We live in a movie And it's a weird one You mean just the fact that we're Americans Are in general The whole world is theater I mean it really is I mean obviously it's real But what I'm saying is The way it's playing out It's so goofy It seems like a work of fiction The North Korea thing Seems like a work of fiction Yeah The uber pious gentleman Dressed like a genie Who's worn a hole in his head From praying That guy is a character in a fucking movie oh and by the way they can't find him he's out there he's out there he's a doctor he's evil he's probably got millions of dollars and they can't find him yeah when is Batman come in where's Batman it's true right it's also weird like people hatch plans and they pull them off like they just get together and they go listen you guys we're gonna hijack plans and fly them into buildings you know people do Benghazi yeah anywhere I mean there's a bunch of of different things, different events that have happened all over the world where people kept their mouth shut, plotted them, and executed them.

[352] Dan Carlin says this beautifully, he talks about, we always talk about they live in the age of terrorism.

[353] He said, well, we live in the age of terrorism actually since 1914, and he tells a fascinating story.

[354] If you don't know the origins of World War I, it's very important because the World War I and World War II are connected.

[355] World War II is the continuation of World War I. And about 80 or 90 million people lost their lives because of those two wars.

[356] And oh, and it destroyed all of old Europe, oh, and it changed the entire map of the world.

[357] Oh, and all of us live in its wake in a much deeper and more turbulent way than you can imagine.

[358] In fact, let me keep going.

[359] If you want to know about the Middle East, really, you've got to study World War I. If you don't, no historian will take you seriously.

[360] And Dan Carlin says something fascinating.

[361] I don't know if you know the story.

[362] He said World War I and the world you live in was changed by one man. And his name was Carvillo Princep.

[363] and he was a Serbian terrorist.

[364] And he found out that the Archduke Ferdinand of the Austro -Hungarian Empire, doesn't matter, was coming to town.

[365] And they had control of Serbia, and Serbia was looking for their independence.

[366] So they said, we're going to kill this guy.

[367] And he was in an open car with his wife, and he was in a parade.

[368] And one of the Serbian terrorists came running out with a grenade or a bomb, threw it at the car.

[369] And it had a faulty thing, and it blew up under the other car.

[370] And six people were very badly injured, I think, one person.

[371] was killed.

[372] But guess what?

[373] Archduke Ferdinand, he survives.

[374] He goes, he makes a full account, they apologized to him.

[375] And remember, this was in Serbia.

[376] It was in Sarajevo, which was a sort of a colony, if you will, of the Serbo -Hungarian, of the Austrian -Hungarian Empire.

[377] Here was the next in line for the, in charge of the Austro -Hungarian Empire.

[378] Now check this out.

[379] This is now crazy.

[380] I know the story.

[381] I've listened to the podcast.

[382] But go ahead and keep saying it if you want.

[383] It's just awesome.

[384] It's just awesome because so now they say, well, we missed our assassination tent.

[385] This guy, Carvillo Princep, who was part of this whole group, goes in for a sandwich.

[386] And as the Archduke Ferdinand said, let's get you out of here, he says, no, I want to go to the hospital and I want to check on all the survivors of this bombing.

[387] They said, okay, so they go down a road, and the guy misses his turn.

[388] And he misses his turn, and now he decides to back up.

[389] And as he's backing up the car stalls, and they've got to kind of feel.

[390] figure it out.

[391] And as the car stalls, because he missed a turn, a guy named Carvillo Princep, part of this Serbian thing comes walking out with a sandwich, and he goes, what the fuck?

[392] There's the Archduke Ferdinand.

[393] He's just right in front of me. And he shoots him, and he shoots his wife.

[394] And that was because the driver missed a turn and was backing up, and Carvillo by coincidence, just sees the Archduke and shoots him.

[395] And that pin, as Dan Collins says, that created the hand grenade that was World War I and World War II was because a driver missed a turn and because one terrorist, one 20 -year -old guy, had a gun in his hand and said, that guy's a bad guy and shot him.

[396] And our world has changed forever because of that strange missed turn.

[397] That's part of what's fascinating about history.

[398] That's an amazing podcast.

[399] Which one is that?

[400] Remember the name of it?

[401] It's called, yes.

[402] It's called Countdown to Armageddon.

[403] Yes.

[404] And it is awesome.

[405] And I'm glad we get a chance to, blueprint for Armageddon.

[406] Blueprint for Armageddon.

[407] I'm so glad I had a chance to drive in a car with you.

[408] We had a long trip and we could listen to Dan Carlin's, the Mongol thing.

[409] You opened a whole can of worms for me, man. I've been telling you how crazy that was like forever.

[410] I'm like, you just got to listen to this podcast.

[411] When people say that to me, though, it's hard to take them seriously.

[412] Oh, I just got to listen to another podcast.

[413] Oh, Christ.

[414] Jesus Christ.

[415] But if you just listen to wrath of the cons, you will be a changed human being.

[416] 100%.

[417] You will understand what it was like to live in that time as best as anybody could ever describe it in a way that is so ultimately paralyzingly terrifying 900 years later, whatever the fuck it is.

[418] Oh, you mean because you're huddled in your church with your family, and they're at the gates, and they're bashing your gates down, and you know they're going to come in and kill everybody?

[419] That was like, what, 800 years ago?

[420] Yeah, about 700 years ago.

[421] Jesus fucking Christ, dude.

[422] And you were going to get your head cut off.

[423] You're going to die by stabbing or cutting.

[424] It's going to suck.

[425] And they were launching bodies.

[426] They would light bodies on front.

[427] and launched them with catapults and land on the fat human fat burns better apparently when you really light it on fire it can catch things on fire better they were so fucking ruthless well i was thinking about how they live like you know you and i we go hunting so we live outside and for four days or three days sometimes and it's miserable and we wake up and we're freezing and we're wet and we're like this blows can't wait to get back to civilization but we do it because we love it it brings us a close to objective reality we're like a few feel a little tougher, a little more manly.

[428] You know, the Mongols, I was thinking about how they lived.

[429] I was kind of trying to picture it.

[430] They're on a horse by the time, they're three.

[431] They live in the Tartars.

[432] Yeah.

[433] Just stop and think about that.

[434] Yeah, let's just start there.

[435] Throw the kid on a horse.

[436] I have a four -year -old.

[437] She's not riding any fucking horses.

[438] Fuck, no. The horses are giant.

[439] A wild horse in the Tartar steps, barely broken.

[440] And they used to have like 20 of them per guy.

[441] Yeah, they could whistle.

[442] They'd be like, no idea.

[443] And their horse would show up.

[444] I never had heard that.

[445] I didn't know how the, that was the, that was the one.

[446] one of the most terrifying things is like how well organized they were well because that's how they would hunt so they would hunt on horseback they were such trick riders if you've been on a horse since you were three you can do anything on a horse right you can shoot an arrow on a horse you're just much faster but he was what was he was where the clinical reality came in I thought to myself their lives were so violent to begin with first of all they lived the staple was marimilk and blood from their horse which they would mix they'd mix the milk and the blood and they would drink it I wonder what that does to you chemically What that taste of lent us to?

[447] Not good.

[448] Probably not.

[449] Fucking Christ.

[450] How many parasites did they have in their body by the time?

[451] They were like 10 years old.

[452] God knows, or none.

[453] And they would chase, because they would ferment them milk.

[454] And they would, the way they would hunt animals, they would do the same with humans.

[455] They would sort of push them all into one area, then create an opening for them to run through.

[456] And then they'd be waiting with a party there.

[457] They were so, just daily existence was so physical and violent, you know.

[458] And they had ultimate disdain for people that live behind walls.

[459] They lived in felt tents And that was like their whole thing It's like the actual description Of what they were calling Jengis Khan Something about ruler of all who dwell In the felt tents Something crazy like that Dude they would show up in town And they would say look I guess you guys weren't aware That you owe Genghis Khan money Yeah So or Gingus they like to say Gingus It was Gingus when John Wayne did it I grew up with Gingus I'm calling him Gengis dude I swear to got the only thing with Carlin, I was like, dude, call it Genghis.

[460] Genghis Khan.

[461] His real name is Temuchin.

[462] But Dan Carlin, what he does so good is make it utterly fascinating.

[463] He's such an expert narrator.

[464] It's a storyteller.

[465] He's an expert.

[466] I mean, like a real master at it.

[467] So when he's telling you, these stories, it's not just really cool information, which it most absolutely is.

[468] But it's the way he's written it all and put it together and worded it.

[469] It's just fucking brilliant.

[470] Yeah, he lives in Portland, right?

[471] Don't give out his fucking address.

[472] What if the Mongols come?

[473] You're right.

[474] Shit, man. I'm just going to be in Portland a little bit.

[475] I want to invite him, man. Getting weird.

[476] Dan, if you're listening to this coming to my show in Portland.

[477] He's a great guy.

[478] You love to hang out with him.

[479] It's a super cool guy.

[480] Real fun.

[481] I've had him on the podcast a few times.

[482] Yeah, I'd love to meet him.

[483] He's doing a goddamn national service with that thing.

[484] 100 %.

[485] World service, I should say.

[486] I shouldn't say national.

[487] It's on the internet.

[488] Could not agree more.

[489] It's so much.

[490] more entertaining than any other history thing I've ever witnessed and watched, listened to.

[491] I mean, I've spent enough time over the past 20 years, at least listening to different kinds of, like, the turning points in European history and, you know, from the teaching company, really good professors.

[492] Nothing compares to that guy.

[493] Nothing.

[494] Well, there's so many good podcasts right now, just like this.

[495] You know, I was talking with someone yesterday about how many good TV shows there are today, as opposed to, like, when we were kids.

[496] Yeah.

[497] You know, like, we were kids, like, what was a really good show on TV?

[498] MASH.

[499] I guess MASH was a really good sitcom.

[500] Mary Tyler Moore.

[501] What was, like, a really good drama.

[502] Was there any...

[503] Oh, Hill Street Blues.

[504] Hill Street Blues.

[505] That was great.

[506] But that's the only one I can think of offhand.

[507] But Hill Street Blues is later.

[508] That was like in the...

[509] It was 80s, 85.

[510] Was it really?

[511] Actually, it was 81.

[512] Why do I have that all fucked up in my head?

[513] Oh, I think I have it fucked up with NYPD Blue.

[514] That's what it is.

[515] Yeah, that's what else?

[516] What was another good drama?

[517] I can't think of a good drama.

[518] right now but compare that to what's available today compare that to game of thrones walking dead mad men breaking bad better call saul yeah house of cards uh homeland i mean jesus christ it's not it's not can't even keep up salt of wizard shows they're so goddamn good and you've got to be good because they have those HBO shows now those HBO shows took everything to a totally different level.

[519] Yeah.

[520] When they put out the Sopranos, the whole game changed.

[521] All of a sudden, you're like, Jesus, this is better than a movie.

[522] This is a movie that's forever.

[523] Because they made a character, it used to be the rule was the character has to be somebody you like who you want to bring in your living room every week.

[524] That was the rule.

[525] And when you went to pitch a show and your character wasn't quote unquote likable, people were like, nah, it's not going to work.

[526] Along comes Tony Soprano, huge adulterer, murderer.

[527] Kills his friends.

[528] Oh, he orders the, he.

[529] assassination of his friend and tells his son to do his homework in the same breath.

[530] Talk about a dichotomy.

[531] And, of course, as human beings, we're like, well, that's real life.

[532] That's how I feel sometimes.

[533] He was the greatest mob character in the history of mob characters, over the top, down the hill, through the valley, up the mountain, through the ocean.

[534] Everyone else can suck his dick.

[535] Yeah.

[536] All of them.

[537] They all can suck his dick.

[538] He's the greatest of all time.

[539] I think me and Shab and a couple of other people were talking about the best overall character on TV ever.

[540] Tony Suprano.

[541] Yeah, I think it's got to be Tony Suprano.

[542] Either that or Walter White.

[543] Walter White's a good bet, too.

[544] I was torn between the two, and I think I ultimately went with Walter.

[545] But I might say now, because of peer pressure, Tony Soprano.

[546] Yeah, you know, there's been some goddamn good ones.

[547] There's a, like, but that, his character had, we had so much time to get to know him.

[548] Yeah.

[549] You know, and that's just what was so different.

[550] It was that it wasn't like television style, like showmaking.

[551] Yeah.

[552] It was movie making.

[553] Right.

[554] But it was a new thing because it was really complex, and you could do it over a long time.

[555] You could have a season, and you're going, you know, you're telling a story over months and months, and you're getting people addicted.

[556] It's a completely different experience.

[557] Yeah.

[558] And you realize, like, at a certain level, like, that show changed every.

[559] Everything.

[560] That show changed everything.

[561] It was just so next level.

[562] I never give a fuck about mob shows.

[563] Was there even one before that?

[564] In a way, it wasn't even a mob show.

[565] In a way, it was a guy running two families, a crime family and his own family.

[566] That was the idea.

[567] So you were looking at a human being, and what I think they did an amazing job was, as evil as he was, they were putting him in impossible situations.

[568] You couldn't run that fucking crime family without being a complete.

[569] motherfucker, yet he had to run his own family, make his marriage work and all that shit.

[570] I think a lot of people identified with how impossible life is that way.

[571] It's an extreme example, but, you know.

[572] It is really.

[573] It's like, we could almost, if you were born, that guy, and that guy's family, and that guy's life, and that guy's neighborhood with that guy's experiences, you would be in the exact same situation as he is right now.

[574] A chain of events from the time you were shot out of your mother's Vajaj.

[575] That's right.

[576] Has led you to where you at.

[577] It's just like looking at those North Korean people, man. Should they pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

[578] Like, what should they do?

[579] Like, to anyone to say that, hey, hey, you know what?

[580] Hey, everybody's got it hard.

[581] My friend Mike, he was born in Africa, but he said, I want to be American.

[582] So he got in a car, he drove to the airport, he bought it to.

[583] No, you know those guys?

[584] Like, if they wanted to, they could do it.

[585] Like, do you know what the fuck you said, you anecdotal asshole?

[586] You tell one shitty story about some supposed friend that probably doesn't even exist.

[587] It was born in the step.

[588] I remember the argument with Saddam Hussein was like, if you make the sanctions strong enough, his people will get so miserable that they'll overthrow the government.

[589] Oh, yes?

[590] You try overthrowing that guy when he kills your whole family.

[591] Yeah, the ruthlessness that these people operate under, like, if you live in American, you haven't experienced war and you start talking about stuff like that, like, stop.

[592] You got no idea.

[593] You're talking crazy.

[594] Do you remember there was a time during the debates?

[595] John McCain, I think, I think any time you've got Sarah Pan.

[596] as you're fucking running mate, you're hamstrung, right?

[597] I mean, it's basically over.

[598] Because no one rational is going to say yes to that.

[599] Right.

[600] Like, you've got someone of really clearly marginal, marginal intelligence.

[601] Yeah.

[602] It's very marginal, right?

[603] If you look at the way she communicates, she's obviously not very bright.

[604] She's certainly very, yeah, myopic in her experience and her perspective.

[605] She's got that down -home folksy thing going on, but it seems very poorly thought out.

[606] Yeah.

[607] Like, there are people that are down home and folks, see when you talk to them, their way of communicating, you can, you can, you can still get through that, through that conversation.

[608] This is an intelligent, nuanced person with a lot of depth to what they're saying.

[609] This is just the way they talk, you know, maybe from Wisconsin.

[610] Maybe it's like Doug Durant, our friend Doug.

[611] Yeah.

[612] From Wisconsin, very much.

[613] Very smart guy.

[614] Brilliant.

[615] Yeah.

[616] Brilliant guy.

[617] Yeah.

[618] If you underestimated him because he's a farmer in Wisconsin.

[619] Yeah.

[620] He'd be in for a surprise.

[621] Yeah.

[622] exactly like the idea that some someone has to fit into any particular you know style of communication right just to just to just to be recognized we were in Napa and we were talking about what was that the wine it was Camus which is a high -end wine like $200 bottle and she was saying that the guy who makes the wine I mean when you buy a Camus wine in a restaurant please be ready to spend if it's special select 325 bucks and you and you think this is a genius winemaker and she was like he's a farmer at heart he's a farmer he grows good grapes and then It kind of does the thing that he was told, but at the end of the day, Wagner's a farmer.

[623] And, you know, but you would underestimate him if you saw him in his overalls, and you'd be like, well, that guy's one of the best winemakers in the world, you know.

[624] Well, those folks that we were talking to up in Napa, the Ronella's friend's friends, friends, they were all farmers.

[625] They were the nicest people.

[626] They were.

[627] How about that food?

[628] They were so cool.

[629] The food was delicious.

[630] As soon as I saw that guy and I saw that he was cooking tri -tips, I'm like, this motherfucker, I guarantee you could cook the shit out of a tri -tip.

[631] I remember you said that.

[632] Old California dudes, old rancher California dudes, they know how to cook those tri -tips because a tri -tip is a very peculiar type of meat.

[633] It's very lean and you can't overcook it.

[634] You've got to cook it the right amount.

[635] It's not a lot of fat on it.

[636] But if you know how to nail it, and for whatever reason, California ranchers, they had like a special grill for it.

[637] I think it's called a Santa Maria grill and it cranks.

[638] And as you're crank and you like raise or lower it above the heat and you want to make it, it's like you have to, this is back.

[639] learned how to do this shit before they had thermometers it was just how the fork would go into it they could figure out like how done it was just by how the fork felt how it slid into it so i saw that dude and i saw he was cooking try tips i'm like oh we're we're eating here dude because we were thinking about going to a restaurant i was like restaurants in the world and we actually forego went them because it was so goddamn good well that guy was cool as fuck when we started talking to him damn it do you remember his name uh no i want to say mike i know his son uh is a model for is it rick or mike his son who was a nice guy was There is a model.

[640] I forgot to give him shit for it, but it's someone's a model for a romance novels.

[641] Vampire romance ones.

[642] A lot of vampire ones.

[643] Oh, you know you've made it when you're a model for vampire romance novels.

[644] Damn, I forgot his name too, but he was cool.

[645] Very, very friendly guy.

[646] Yeah.

[647] But he's just a devastatingly handsome guy.

[648] I interrupted you with my tangential story about that because you reminded me of it.

[649] And you were making a larger point.

[650] What was I saying?

[651] Fuck.

[652] Who cares?

[653] I have no idea.

[654] Whatever.

[655] It wasn't going to be that important.

[656] Yeah, exactly.

[657] Keep it rolling.

[658] Keep it rolling here.

[659] I don't even remember at all.

[660] Hey, man, we went turkey hunting, you guys.

[661] Look at this quote from the Denver police.

[662] The Denver police, they put out a tweet.

[663] No, that's not what it was, Jamie.

[664] There was one, it was more hilarious.

[665] Scroll down a little bit.

[666] It was the 420 tweet.

[667] Does it on, like...

[668] There it is.

[669] No. They had like rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling.

[670] Put it, it's on my Twitter, dude.

[671] Just go to my Twitter and you'll find it.

[672] But it's actually kind of hilarious.

[673] I retweeted it, I think.

[674] think.

[675] It's a good picture of you there.

[676] That's some 60s fuck.

[677] Look at that.

[678] In Denver, I said even the police are high on 420.

[679] Look at this.

[680] This is the police.

[681] We see you rolling but we ain't hating.

[682] Ha ha.

[683] Seriously, though.

[684] Hashtag Denver.

[685] Please remember to hashtag consume responsibly this 420 weekend.

[686] Good for them.

[687] The police department.

[688] I like the police department in Denver.

[689] They have little music things there.

[690] What are those emojis?

[691] A little music emojis.

[692] Good for them.

[693] Good for them.

[694] I love it.

[695] Is that the nicest police department of all time?

[696] I mean, they might be.

[697] See, ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens when you let a state get stoned.

[698] This is what happens.

[699] This is exactly what I've been telling you forever, and it's in action right now.

[700] This is the police are nicer.

[701] First, it was Florida in their water, and nobody was getting cavities, and now it's weed.

[702] Way to go, Colorado.

[703] Is Florida, is Florida in the water good, dude?

[704] Is that real?

[705] Well, I think in the 50s what they found, there are certain communities in Colorado that were not getting cavities.

[706] I think it's in Colorado.

[707] And they couldn't figure out why.

[708] Why weren't the kids getting cavities?

[709] And they found there's a high level of fluoride in the water.

[710] Naturally.

[711] That does happen, right?

[712] Like, if you have, there's some waters that have higher levels of fluoride, like natural fluoride.

[713] Yeah.

[714] And, like, apparently there's, that's one of the things that's supposed to be not good when you drink distilled water.

[715] Right.

[716] They say don't, yeah.

[717] Because you want all those minerals and all that other jazz that's in water.

[718] Very much.

[719] So I think, and I believe you use distilled water on a plant, a lot of times a plant dies.

[720] That's what I was told.

[721] From a farmer.

[722] But some people think that fluoride ultimately is not good for your body.

[723] Is there any science that goes with that?

[724] Because people love to quote, they always say this one thing, hey, man, it calcifies your pineal gland.

[725] And I'm like, have you done any lab biopsies?

[726] We have a pretty big control group like the entire population of the United States over the past 50 years.

[727] I don't see a lot of people with calcified pineal glands.

[728] I don't know if that's even a real thing, first of all.

[729] I don't know.

[730] Isn't it the third eye?

[731] Isn't it a pineal gland?

[732] Yeah, that's what they're saying.

[733] Well, mine always feels all stiff.

[734] I can't see out of it.

[735] I'll tell you that much.

[736] And then there's this other one that they say, maybe Snopes this, Jamie.

[737] They say, do you know that fluoride in the water was pioneered by the Nazis for mind control?

[738] Dude.

[739] Well, did you know that, man?

[740] So think about that.

[741] Think about that, man. I drink rainwater.

[742] I will think about it because you haven't thought about it.

[743] Listen, dude, you don't even know.

[744] I'm fucking, I'm online.

[745] What was the last time you read a book besides Twilight?

[746] Besides Twilight?

[747] InfoWords .com.

[748] I knew it.

[749] Manual of life.

[750] InfoWords .com.

[751] I read a book besides Twilight.

[752] If you're a guy and you're reading Twilight, lose my number.

[753] Come out of the closet.

[754] You can be like what you like.

[755] It's all right.

[756] Like what you like, man. I was at the Chateau Mama and that guy sat at the table.

[757] What guy?

[758] Me and my buddy Frank Rillo were the guy, the main vampire, the heart drop.

[759] Oh, the fucking guy from twilight.

[760] Uh -huh.

[761] Robert Pattinson?

[762] And he sat at my table and I stared at him.

[763] I didn't say hi.

[764] He was very nice.

[765] And he got up and he was like, nice to meet everybody.

[766] I was like, see you later.

[767] That's my story about him.

[768] That's an amazing story.

[769] Thank you, buddy.

[770] Dude, you should write that down.

[771] I met him.

[772] There's a guy named John Stewart that I used to work with on Fear Factor.

[773] The greatest, hilarious dude.

[774] Just a guy.

[775] who'd been in show business forever and he was a straight total pro all right ladies and gentlemen it can't get any better than this he's just one of those guys like he would move the contestants through everybody was smiling when they talked to him just one of those motherfuckers he's christin stewart's dad oh wow yeah makes sense yeah of course he was raised by a while man he's a cool motherfucker yeah he's a cool his long hair scraggly hair it's great his daughter's a movie star old school dude man He's been around forever.

[776] Just a super sweet guy, too.

[777] She probably grew up around sets acting.

[778] Yeah, probably.

[779] But back then, like, she did a couple movies, and I was like, dude, why are you letting your daughter do that?

[780] Isn't it freak you out?

[781] And she's, like, going to get famous at a young age, and she wasn't worried about it.

[782] And then obviously, she became this giant fucking movie star.

[783] So I'm like, dude, lucky he didn't listen to me. Yeah, get her out of asking.

[784] I was telling you to pull your daughter out.

[785] She could be selling insurance right now.

[786] The gigantic fucking movie star.

[787] So don't listen to me ever.

[788] How about that?

[789] if I give you advice but who knows man truth about fluoride doesn't include the Nazi myth okay so the Nazis a myth history shows actually that in Nazi Germany one of the first things they did was had fluoride to the water in the ghettos where the Jews stayed Matt Leffler of Cleveland told the county commissioner Tuesday before well what does it say here if he's saying okay okay what is this is not saying whether it's real or not real or who knows this is just a story on it we should figure out like what is the actual truth where is the story come from here it goes what is the story there's no teeth to this claim yeah i can almost guarantee you that it is indeed the urban myth said uh and the holinger who handles the media relations at the u .s holocaust memorial museum well okay hmm okay it seems like it's not real then right or it could be it wasn't about nazis fluoridating water it was communists what okay so it seems like more than likely it was an urban myth well now what about this is the the thing Jamie Google this fluoride calcifies the pineal gland because I just want to let's get to the bottom of this get to the bottom of this nonsense how many studies have been done on the pineal gland what happens if what's fluoride doing in there when are they gonna clone hair that's what I want to know ladies and gentlemen you can get hairier I need fluoride deposition aged human pineal gland hmm ooh so is it saying the purpose was to discover close scroll that also purpose was to discover whether fluoride accumulates in the aged human pineal gland the aims were to determine a f concentrations of the pineal gland wet whatever that means corresponding muscle wet and bone ash be calcium calcium calcium concentration of the pineal pineal muscle muscle and bone were dissected from 11 -aged cadavers.

[790] Okay, what is it saying?

[791] Too much reading.

[792] I'll take a calcium in pineal gland and then holes in my teeth.

[793] Holes of my teeth suck.

[794] Here it goes right here.

[795] Fluoride does not accumulate in the brain.

[796] Well, wait a minute.

[797] Okay, so it's not.

[798] So you would really do that, though?

[799] You would take calcium in your pineal gland?

[800] It means saying it's not real.

[801] But what if it was real?

[802] Yeah.

[803] You would take that with holes in your teeth, really?

[804] I don't want holes in my teeth.

[805] But what about dentists?

[806] I don't use my pineal gland.

[807] Do I?

[808] Yeah, you do.

[809] I do.

[810] Makes melatonin.

[811] Oh, shit.

[812] They believe now that it makes dimethyl -tryptamine, that really heavy -duty psychedelic.

[813] Oh.

[814] They, uh, it makes a bunch of different things.

[815] Shit.

[816] Well, I'll take melatonin pills and have good teeth.

[817] You know what?

[818] It looks like the weird thing about the pineal gland.

[819] Have you ever seen the, look, look up, uh, Egyptian image pineal gland.

[820] The actual, like, side, um, view of the pineal gland.

[821] I didn't even know it was actually.

[822] I always thought it was like the third eye.

[823] Yeah, it's a real, that's what's really fucked up.

[824] Look what it looks like.

[825] It looks like that thing Hmm.

[826] A lot.

[827] That Egyptian symbol.

[828] Oh, wow.

[829] A lot.

[830] Like if you look at the actual structure of the pineal gland and that eye, what is that eye supposed to represent.

[831] Is that I know.

[832] Probably someone super smart is watching you bitch.

[833] That's what it looks like to me. I mean, it's it's super, super similar in appearance.

[834] Yeah.

[835] What the pineal gland looks like and what that thing looks like if it's dissected.

[836] I'm sure the Egyptians did their share of cutting brains up.

[837] I mean, you look at that thing nestled.

[838] So that's where the pineal gland is way inside the brain?

[839] I thought it was right in your forehead.

[840] No, it's like, it's like, look where your eyeballs are, right?

[841] Yeah.

[842] And then it's like literally like right here and back.

[843] Like right where your brain's stuff.

[844] Oh, okay.

[845] Right in there.

[846] Apparently they think that this uncertain like lower animals like snakes, I think or reptiles, that thing actually has a retina and a lens I don't see where it says pineal gland on this thing I think that's back up there Jamie that's what the gland is I mean that's where it is it looks like that's a thalamus no see where is it show it does it have a button I think that's a thalamus buddy according to that pineal gland part one right there see pineal gland on the right and there the eye.

[847] Okay.

[848] That's what they're saying here.

[849] Neither of us know what the fucking pineal gland looks like.

[850] Oh, there it is.

[851] The pineal gland is, looks like it's the base.

[852] How freaky is that?

[853] I don't know.

[854] It's nuts.

[855] All of the, just the, the knowledge that your brain is making all these weird chemicals all the time.

[856] And keeping them in balance is super important.

[857] And you can do it with, like, exercise, and you can do it with, like, having positive thinking, and getting outside the sun and it's also what is the brain what really is it yeah what really is it you know that's what kind of blows my mind some sort of a as it's functioning you know as it's all lit up right it's some sort of a portal to everything in the universe and that's really what the brain is and eventually that that thing will get to a point where it's capable of communicating with anybody within any reasonable distance instantaneously.

[858] So as this brain continues to get stronger, accumulate more information, accumulate more technological breakthroughs that allow it to do more things and manipulate matter more, as long as it stays alive, as long as the human organism stays alive, you've thought of it as a giant super thing.

[859] Yeah.

[860] It's something that if you're looking at the, in terms of like the creation of the earth, right?

[861] The earth is billions of years old.

[862] It took a long fucking time to go from the first version of the earth, all the rocks and the lava and the water and shit, to what we have today.

[863] It takes a long -ass time.

[864] Well, I think the human organism takes a long -ass time to become what it really is.

[865] And what it really is, is like, the universe figured out how to build something that can make a universe.

[866] Well, I was going to say that the human brain is going to get to a point where it's able to.

[867] to replicate itself and then improve on itself.

[868] And you'll be able to download other people's brains and you'll be able to send your download to other people's brains and you'll have an experience of what it's like to be that person.

[869] And there's some people that resist this because they say, look, we already right now don't know nearly enough about the biological functions of the human body.

[870] We already right now don't know.

[871] I absolutely understand that and I agree that they're right.

[872] I'm not disputing that at all.

[873] What I am saying, though, is it might not even matter.

[874] They might be able to come up with technology that completely circumvents all the biological bullshit that we have to deal with as far as like processing proteins and phytonutrients and all that horseshit, we could possibly bypass that one day.

[875] Like by meshing with machines you mean?

[876] Yes, I think it's going to happen.

[877] I really do.

[878] I know you had Aubrey de Grey on your podcast.

[879] I had them on mine.

[880] I'm having them on again.

[881] Oh.

[882] I had them on my show, but I'm having them on the podcast real soon.

[883] Yeah, because I was talking and he was talking about there are seven different, I I guess a cell, there are seven different ways a cell degenerates, and they're working on figuring out ways to stop that degeneration.

[884] It's a mechanical issue at this point, but they're isolating how a cell breaks down, why it does, and they're going to try to figure out a way to stop it.

[885] But, you know, I said nanotechnology and stuff, there's a chance that all your work could be circumnavigated by just that inexorable rise toward, you know, just kind of pushing us way beyond our biology with machines.

[886] And he was like, yeah, maybe, you know.

[887] I just think if you look at it in terms of the long haul, let's just assume that people are able to stay alive and not blow each other up or not get hit by a meteor for the long haul.

[888] Let's give us a hundred years.

[889] Do you have any idea how goddamn crazy technology is going to be in a hundred years?

[890] So anybody like that it's poo -pooling this, we don't have the capabilities?

[891] Don't you think that that's what they said back when they lived in caves?

[892] Yeah.

[893] How we got to block that hole.

[894] We can't do it.

[895] We don't do it.

[896] know how they had to figure out how to make a fucking door okay somebody had to figure out and make a door to a cave somebody had to figure out fire somebody had to figure out stone tools and then we learn from them it all keeps steam rolling and apparently the brain is evolving as well the brain is evolving in the way that it interfaces with computers the way we process information it's all our way of like the allocation of resources mentally is very different now than it was before you could just ask Google question.

[897] This is some weird shit's going to happen to the very brain itself.

[898] If we start adding things to it, if we start putting in little transmitters or little things, little ways to wirelessly interface with each other, you know, you and I've talked about this, that experiment that they did where they sent a word, they sent a couple words from one person to the other person through the internet.

[899] And they received the word.

[900] They were blindfolded.

[901] They take all these steps to make sure that the way they were receiving it was only brain to brain.

[902] Like, dude, we're getting, like, these are the baby steps of some really crazy shit.

[903] Yeah.

[904] And if we could just stay alive, if you could stay alive for like 100 years, the world will be unrecognizable.

[905] Well, they say that's the case in 40 or 50.

[906] Ray Kurzweil says in 40 or 50 years, it's going to be...

[907] He might be right.

[908] Yeah, because it's moving so exponentially.

[909] And the minute machines start replicating themselves are building better machines.

[910] It comes with a very dark side, but also comes from a very promising side.

[911] Biologists reject it.

[912] Biologists reject it.

[913] A lot of them do.

[914] But a lot of them do because they think that they don't know enough about the human mind to even come close to saying that we could replicate it or download consciousness into a computer.

[915] And that seems to be the truth.

[916] But what I think is it's going to be the case of technology reaching a level of capabilities.

[917] ability that we can't even fathom.

[918] We can't fathom it.

[919] It's too far away from our little P brains right now.

[920] There could be kind of an interface that we can't even imagine.

[921] I think that if you can imagine it, I think that the human imagination exists because that is a window into what is actually possible.

[922] In other words, I think that if you can imagine it, it's going to be a matter of time before it actually becomes something you can measure and see with your eye, your ear, or an instrument.

[923] I think it's going to be something you can actually touch.

[924] I think anything that, like you're talking about, downloading the human brain, communicating the way we communicate with radio waves, the way we text, texting each other with our brains, I don't think that's magic.

[925] I don't think it's far -fetched.

[926] I think if you look at the way science seems to be developing, it's a matter of when, not if.

[927] It's so weird.

[928] If you think about what a human being, is.

[929] If you think about like, I've been watching a lot of nature documentaries lately, man. I've gone through one of these weird stages where I just started watching documentaries on various animals.

[930] And just the cruelty of the environment that they live in, the cannibalism and attacking each other and just life eats life.

[931] Oh, it's fucking chaos, man. We watched this documentary on baboons.

[932] These baboons fucking each other up.

[933] And you're like, Jesus Christ, trying to protect their babies and the baboon should the the show should have been called dead baby baboon because they show is like 10 fucking dead baby baboons this scientist on ted talk was talking about how how humans are not the only animals that just kill each other because you know because you know the animals kill out of dominance or food and stuff no no he said let me tell you something this baboon showed up he studies baboons baboon shows up in this whole group and he's kind of an asshole he's just loud he's just not being respectful to the other males.

[934] He's just running around.

[935] It's like kind of trying to fuck the women without going through the necessary baboon steps you got to.

[936] And he's just loud and being a pain in the ass.

[937] Well, the next morning, he said, he goes, I knew this baboon was going to get it.

[938] I just didn't know how.

[939] Next morning, he shows the picture.

[940] All they find is the baboon's face.

[941] The baboon's face basically tore him asunder, threw him in every direction, and just his perfect face going, like that, just a silent scream was left on the ground.

[942] Whoa.

[943] He said, that's what they do.

[944] Cut his face off.

[945] Cut his face off.

[946] With what, their teeth?

[947] Yeah, they just bit his head off.

[948] They bit his head away from his face, basically.

[949] Yeah, they got some big teeth.

[950] They do.

[951] They have ferocious looking teeth, man. They're weird.

[952] They're like a dog fucked a monkey.

[953] Yeah.

[954] That's what it's like.

[955] Exactly right.

[956] It's really what it's like.

[957] It doesn't look like any other animal.

[958] It's such a weird dog monkey combination.

[959] Shitty pet.

[960] They, if they were a shitty pet.

[961] You think?

[962] If a baboon was in a movie, like if they didn't exist, but they were in, like, Lord of the Rings, it would be a terrifying animal, like an animal that lived in the forest that was thinking about, like, stealing your baby, you know?

[963] They eat human babies, man. Well, my...

[964] So with chimps, too, by the way.

[965] We threw a birthday party from one of my kids, and they brought a baboon.

[966] Oh, no. Yeah, and I was like, oh, the big babbling, yeah, we're just not going to pet her.

[967] She was very submissive.

[968] She would fall to the ground and let you pick bugs from her back.

[969] That's how they show submissive, submission.

[970] But nervous.

[971] She was nervous She had big teeth And she was large Oh no Let's keep about 10 years back Fuck that Yeah Well that's not fair That animal shouldn't be there It's not fair to the animal You're putting the animal Without even understanding its language You're putting it in this incredible stressful situation Where it's around kids Look at the fucking teeth On that thing That's a male Oh my God They're monsters Yeah Just monsters Look at the teeth It's like a werewolf.

[972] It is.

[973] What an insanely crazy -looking animal.

[974] Like, if that was in a movie, and that was chasing after Bilbo Baggins, you would totally buy it.

[975] You'd be like, oh, my God, that's a werewolf.

[976] How is that not a werewolf?

[977] I mean, look at the fucking teeth on that thing.

[978] Those are giant teeth, man. Those fangs are so disproportionately large.

[979] I think, yeah.

[980] Do the females have teeth like that?

[981] probably probably damn look at that thing Jesus Christ oh my god dude blow that picture up look at the fucking face on that thing yeah but look at the female genitalia in the other picture not something looking at look at that yeah that's just retarded but what a face too like this is real like okay if human beings didn't exist if we just didn't exist at all on earth this fucking thing would be out there just like it is now if we never existed if we just we never figured out houses we never we died off a long fucking time ago that thing would be out there just like that that thing would be out there a million years from now just like that look at that fucking monster I mean we made it to 2015 with cell phones and jet airplanes and microwave ovens and TVs and laptops and that fucking primate that came up with us this fucker didn't make it out of the neighborhood That's what they always say is the fundamental difference between human beings and animals Even though we're an animal We're the only animal with potential We're the only animal that continues to evolve We evolve within our own lives Yeah We can see and if you're really Observant of yourself and correcting of yourself You'll continually evolve You're going to be smarter and better Ten generations in that baboon They're all going to be the same way they well that's interesting that you said that because i don't know i keep hate keep saying radio lab but there was another podcast they did about instincts and how you could change the entire behavior of a tribe of baboons if they got rid of this one alpha male that was like fucking everybody up really yeah they got rid of one alpha male that was fucking everybody up and then something happened i forget what the the actual event was that caused them to be submissive to each other and grooming each other and then they just kind of kept up with it and then they came back years later expecting to see the same sort of violent behavior that they'd witnessed before but no they had this they had developed this like peaceful baboon tribe which is there was no there's no threat well it was a way lesser threat they're still fucking baboons yeah but apparently the way they uh dealt with each other was way more relaxed like and they there was really confusing to these biologists who observed it was very unexpected I should say.

[982] It shouldn't say confusing.

[983] I mean, it was a welcome discovery, I'm sure.

[984] You're realizing like, wow, how much of behavior, okay, like we're talking about North Korea and we're talking about America in 2015, look at the difference between the way the cultures are allowed to communicate and express themselves.

[985] Just by this podcast, you could see the difference between someone who lives in a crazy, but this crazy dictatorship that they're living in is happening in the same timeline.

[986] It's happening right now.

[987] Well, it goes back to also when you first started this podcast.

[988] guess about talking about most people are great and it's a couple of assholes it takes only a couple of assholes in charge to change the character of an entire society to and make people behave in a very crazy way those baboons change when you took away the alpha i wonder if north koreans would be crying for three hours straight if they didn't have a fucking alpha male running their tribe who is that much of a fucking monster obviously not i wish i could remember the exact specifics of what caused them to chill out i didn't remember uh too much much information in my head.

[989] I'm having a real problem with that lately.

[990] I've got to regulate the amount of information that's going in my head and then go over it with a fine tooth comb.

[991] I feel like I'm taking in all day way too much data.

[992] I feel like way too.

[993] Like I forget, I can't really remember names and specifics.

[994] I have to start talking in general terms because I'm afraid I'll make a mistake.

[995] I'm talking really about individual stories and individual subjects of news, especially, because I feel like if you got online, every, day and start scouring the news and looking for interesting things and seeing the latest video.

[996] Do you see the silverback gorilla that slammed into the cage at the zoo?

[997] No. Oh, ready?

[998] Tighten up your belt.

[999] My favorite.

[1000] Okay, there's a little kid that starts doing some chest thumps.

[1001] No. Yes, she does.

[1002] And the silverback ain't hearing it.

[1003] Watch this.

[1004] This is fucking crazy, dude.

[1005] So you see the little kid, you can see her in the corner.

[1006] She's pounding her hands on her chest.

[1007] Look at this.

[1008] Why is her...

[1009] We never fixed that.

[1010] Yeah.

[1011] The shitty video quality thing, those little things we bought didn't fix it.

[1012] Look at Cocoa the Gorilla with Robin Williams.

[1013] We still have that really super shaky video for some reason.

[1014] Yeah, Coco the Gorilla.

[1015] I can't believe you let that thing touch them.

[1016] They're a lot less dangerous than that.

[1017] They say gorillas have their own personality, so some can be really mean and some can be really sweet.

[1018] I'm sure she was super sweet, but if she wanted to just pull your dick off and stuff it through your eyeball, she could any time she wanted to.

[1019] I think Coco might be a guy, isn't it?

[1020] Is it?

[1021] Why, I think it's a girl.

[1022] Look at how thick.

[1023] Oh, wow.

[1024] See, he just pulls him down to him.

[1025] Dude, look at that.

[1026] Oh, my God.

[1027] Can you go full screen on that?

[1028] Oh, man. Or is that when it screws up?

[1029] Look at Robin Williams.

[1030] Oh, my God.

[1031] Well, that's like an alien, dude.

[1032] You know?

[1033] Oh, look at that.

[1034] Wow, it kisses his hand.

[1035] Holy shit.

[1036] What an amazing time.

[1037] This is a bizarre video.

[1038] I guess I wouldn't be so nervous.

[1039] That thing looks really peaceful.

[1040] Look at him.

[1041] Wow.

[1042] It took his glasses and put his glasses on.

[1043] Whoa.

[1044] See, that's when it gets really weird.

[1045] And you go, what are we dealing with here?

[1046] This is like a life form that speaks some sort of a sign language with human beings, so it understands what you're saying.

[1047] It just can't vocalize the noises that we wanted to in order to communicate.

[1048] But man, that is a crazy animal right there.

[1049] If that thing didn't exist, fuck Bigfoot.

[1050] I'll just say it right now.

[1051] Fuck Bigfoot in his dirty, crusty ass.

[1052] Bigfoot's not nearly as cool as a goddamn gorilla.

[1053] Look, he's saying tickle me. You're going to tickle a gorilla.

[1054] Isn't that nuts?

[1055] He signs tickle.

[1056] I just want to see how much stronger that thing is than me. Oh, what are you talking about?

[1057] You can't even fathom it.

[1058] It's a different level.

[1059] It's not even the same.

[1060] It's just not fair.

[1061] It's like, how much stronger are you than a flower?

[1062] Well, how about just Brendan, who grabbed me around the waist the other day?

[1063] And he was like, yesterday, I was trying to get out.

[1064] First of all, I tried to shoot a single leg on him.

[1065] Look at that.

[1066] No, keep a good, keep going.

[1067] Keep it to, look at this.

[1068] This is so crazy.

[1069] It's just looking at that body.

[1070] Look at him laughing.

[1071] It's so, it's so nuts.

[1072] They're laughing and tickling each other.

[1073] Well, great pet.

[1074] You're hilarious.

[1075] I want one so bad.

[1076] Keep a gorilla in your house until he decides that he wants to eat your food right now.

[1077] Yeah, well.

[1078] They actually are strict vegetarians, which people find shocking.

[1079] Yeah, they are.

[1080] And people are like, hey, man. Not the chimpanzee.

[1081] This is totally evidence that you can eat in all plant diet, and you can be immensely massive and muscular.

[1082] Or it's evidence that gorillas are different than people.

[1083] Well, they always say, well, bulls are so strong, and they're total vegetarians.

[1084] All right, go eat grass, and then run a mile.

[1085] See how you feel.

[1086] Yeah, good luck with that.

[1087] You have four stomachs, whatever the fuck it is?

[1088] Yeah, we're different, man. That's a gorilla.

[1089] It's different than a person.

[1090] It needs only broccoli.

[1091] Coco checks his ID That is hilarious Signs tickles I went to the Santa Barbara Zoo Like maybe six months ago or so And they have guerrillas there And you just get like right up next to them In the glass And you look in and you see them walking around And they're you know They're essentially just a few yards from you Just right there walking around Yeah It's kind of fucked up You mean in Santa Barbara?

[1092] It's kind of fucked up Because you really shouldn't be able to just look at a gorilla.

[1093] Because if you just look at them in real life, they run at you.

[1094] You ever seen the bluff charge that they make?

[1095] That is...

[1096] Pull a video of that.

[1097] Terrify.

[1098] Guerrilla makes silver black...

[1099] Silver back makes bluff charge.

[1100] Do we figure out why this is so...

[1101] Crack the safety glass.

[1102] After...

[1103] Yeah, here you goes.

[1104] Look at this.

[1105] Boom.

[1106] Damn!

[1107] Do you have any idea how fucking strong he must be?

[1108] Oh.

[1109] So...

[1110] And that was just...

[1111] because she was pounded in her chest.

[1112] Isn't that nuts?

[1113] Man gets charged by, what does that say?

[1114] Guerrilla?

[1115] The second one down?

[1116] Yeah.

[1117] Is that the one I think that's the one I think that's one I'm as large as silverback.

[1118] Five hundred pounds.

[1119] Try that one.

[1120] Bluff charged.

[1121] Ooh.

[1122] Five hundred pounds silver back.

[1123] Look at the belly on that thing.

[1124] Dude, you got a belly.

[1125] That's parasites, bro.

[1126] Is that what that is?

[1127] I don't know, but that's a crazy belly.

[1128] I'm disgusted and ashamed.

[1129] Do you think that gorilla cares about his gut?

[1130] I don't think so.

[1131] out.

[1132] Is that a girl you think or a guy?

[1133] Um, I think it's a guy.

[1134] That looked very girl -like for some reason.

[1135] Like, maybe she was pregnant.

[1136] Oh, maybe she was.

[1137] Yeah, I feel like that's probably why...

[1138] There's the silverback.

[1139] That's probably why the silverback's going to bum rush to show.

[1140] There's the silver bag.

[1141] Can you imagine these assholes are actually...

[1142] And I say assholes with all due affection and admiration.

[1143] But these dudes are in the middle of the fucking jungle just walking around with cameras in front of wild gorillas.

[1144] Yeah, not to mention there.

[1145] A bunch of really bad people.

[1146] in the Rwandan juggles.

[1147] I think Joseph Coney hangs out there sometimes.

[1148] Yeah.

[1149] And his Hutu militias.

[1150] What a freaky animal, a gorilla is.

[1151] Yeah.

[1152] Super intelligent thing.

[1153] That's enormous.

[1154] Possibly strong.

[1155] Possibly strong.

[1156] It just eats vegetation.

[1157] And it's so strong.

[1158] It could just rip you apart with its hands.

[1159] And that's how it gets by.

[1160] It gets by, not by killing everything around it.

[1161] gets by, by being able to kill so many things that everybody just goes, fuck that.

[1162] Yeah.

[1163] That's why they nest on the ground.

[1164] It's unbelievable.

[1165] Gorillas, they could, if a gorilla wanted to pull himself up a tree, it would be pretty fucking easy.

[1166] Yeah.

[1167] But they don't nest in trees.

[1168] And part of it, I'm sure, that's a pregnant gorilla, dude.

[1169] She's pregnant.

[1170] Part of it, I'm, because she looks like a female.

[1171] She looks, because I'm a biologist.

[1172] I don't know if you know.

[1173] She just looks less, it's horrifically strong than the male is.

[1174] Yeah, yeah.

[1175] She's more, like, soft.

[1176] and fuzzy.

[1177] Didn't they find out recently they used tools?

[1178] Well, they definitely will dig with sticks.

[1179] They'll dig to get roots and shit.

[1180] Well, they're all vegetation.

[1181] That's what they eat.

[1182] They're all about vegetation.

[1183] I'm sure that they have probably figured out some sort of tool to do something.

[1184] It just makes sense.

[1185] I mean, it's not like they're building the wheel or, you know, constructing houses.

[1186] that I think is still food to a bear.

[1187] Look at the size of that.

[1188] that thing.

[1189] Grizzly bear is that thing, right?

[1190] Look at the size of that thing.

[1191] I don't know about all that.

[1192] Oh, it's 500 pounds?

[1193] How much is a grizzly weigh?

[1194] A lot more.

[1195] Yeah.

[1196] A lot more.

[1197] But it's a different kind of weight.

[1198] Is it?

[1199] Yeah.

[1200] I mean, no, grizzly bear is a ridiculously strong animal, but a fucking big five, 600 -pound gorilla, he might fuck a grizzly bear up.

[1201] He might smack a grizzly bear in his head.

[1202] Grizzly bear might be stupid to tangle with this thing.

[1203] Hard to hurt, he looks like.

[1204] Look at his head.

[1205] Well, the grizzly bears are impossible to hurt.

[1206] Have you ever seen them bite each other?

[1207] Yeah.

[1208] It's insane.

[1209] So what's the bear going to do?

[1210] Unless he knows Jiu -Jitsu, I mean, the gorilla's got to get behind him and choke him out.

[1211] What's the gorilla going to do?

[1212] The gorilla's going to just smack him in the head.

[1213] Just pound them, bite them, throw them.

[1214] Maybe freak the fucking bear out into thinking that this thing is way scarier than a bear.

[1215] Yeah.

[1216] But as far as if they went to the death, it depends on how big the bear is and how big the gorilla is.

[1217] Oh, God.

[1218] Yeah, I...

[1219] Guerrillas are so fucking smart, though.

[1220] I would think that they would figure out a way Would you know?

[1221] To fuck a bear up.

[1222] Depends on where they are.

[1223] Because they're wild, too.

[1224] I mean, the reason why they have those giant canines, that's the fight.

[1225] Yeah.

[1226] You know, they fight other gorillas.

[1227] Yeah.

[1228] It's just a matter of, does he have like a grizzly bear?

[1229] You know what's interesting about the way grizzly bears kill?

[1230] It's really kind of creepy.

[1231] It seems that animals that kill a variety of things, or animals that eat a variety of things, I should say.

[1232] real omnivores, which bears are real omnivores.

[1233] They don't necessarily kill things before they start eating them.

[1234] Right.

[1235] They just hold them down.

[1236] I know.

[1237] There have been a lot of, like in Grizzling Man, I think the guy started getting his legs eaten first.

[1238] Yeah, and for like seven minutes, the video goes on.

[1239] Jesus Christ.

[1240] With the lens caps on, but you're just hearing the sound of him screaming.

[1241] Oh.

[1242] And her screaming.

[1243] And this is going on for seven fucking minutes.

[1244] Seven minutes?

[1245] Seven minutes?

[1246] It's eating him alive.

[1247] Oh, Jesus Christ.

[1248] And that's how they kill you.

[1249] They eat you alive.

[1250] Oh, fuck.

[1251] That's not good.

[1252] All they want to do is hold you.

[1253] Because they're so much bigger.

[1254] There's so much bigger than you.

[1255] So the thing is just paw on my chest and he's just wolfing down on my quads.

[1256] Mostly your gut or your asshole, they'll go asshole first.

[1257] What?

[1258] Yeah, apparently, that's how coyotes always kill, they kill asshole first.

[1259] What?

[1260] Like, deer.

[1261] Like, they found deer that were locked up together.

[1262] I mean, it's like sometimes when deer, I know you know this.

[1263] They may, yeah.

[1264] Well, the men are fighting.

[1265] Oh, right.

[1266] And the men, their horns, because they slam heads together, sometimes they wedge their horns together in a way that they literally can't get out.

[1267] Right.

[1268] And there's a video of these, you can find this video of these two bucks that are connected together, and one of them is dead.

[1269] Because it was eaten alive by these coyotes, and the coyotes ate it asshole first.

[1270] Oh, no. So, like, the whole back legs and the haunches and the assholes all torn out.

[1271] Like, they ate all that.

[1272] And this other deer is still connected.

[1273] connected to him.

[1274] Well, he must have been like, eat a little more, please.

[1275] No, it's like that, but the, the, it's a video, and there, the actual carcass is, uh, still attached to the other one.

[1276] Like, it's, it's, it's not like that.

[1277] It looks awful.

[1278] It doesn't look like a full deer.

[1279] It looks like the bottom half is halfway, um, no, that's not it.

[1280] No, I guess you start.

[1281] You see if you could find it.

[1282] Um, can't drink.

[1283] I forget the exact way it was.

[1284] phrased in the title.

[1285] Something about Hunter's Rescue Buck, one dead one alive.

[1286] I don't know.

[1287] It might be it.

[1288] That's weird.

[1289] It might be it.

[1290] So weird.

[1291] It's hard to tell.

[1292] God, that video looks like shit.

[1293] It's just pictures.

[1294] It was wobbly, but, oh, okay, it's just pictures.

[1295] That's why.

[1296] I was like, that's the most ridiculous video ever.

[1297] That's not it.

[1298] The actual one was these two.

[1299] It doesn't matter.

[1300] You can find it, folks, if you've got more time than us But they lock horns They get stuck And the coyotes just eat them asshole first That's how they do it I don't want it to turn me over and eat my butt How about you can stare in your buddy's eyes While you're connected together by the head While he's getting his asshole eaten He's like, save me I'm like, eh Fucking stuck Yeah Because coyotes never catch They catch fawns They never catch a full -grown buck like that A full -grown buck, a big 150 -pound animal With the giant horns Delicious.

[1301] Coyotes are like, that's too much work.

[1302] Yeah.

[1303] For the most part.

[1304] I bet you had died already and then the coyotes came in it because the other one was kicking him away.

[1305] They're like, let's just eat this end.

[1306] I wonder.

[1307] Doesn't move.

[1308] But they're connected together by the head.

[1309] Hmm.

[1310] I don't know.

[1311] Who knows?

[1312] Very interesting.

[1313] The point being, this is my whole point at the beginning of all this nonsense.

[1314] I think that the need for separateness, like the need to defend yourself, the need to attack, the need for aggression was all instilled in whatever animal the human being ultimately became, all instilled to allow it to stay alive through the darkest times, the most primal times.

[1315] Because without that aggression, guess what, fuckface, you're not going to make it to 2015.

[1316] If you remove aggression from human history, we're bear food, we're coyote food, we're mountain lion food, we're, you know, fill in the blank.

[1317] If you remove the need to figure out a way to...

[1318] to stop the world around you from swallowing you up.

[1319] You need to have a certain amount of personal sovereignty and a certain amount of aggression.

[1320] You have to fight off anything that is predatory, anything that is gonna threaten the survival of your very species until you figure out how to get it together.

[1321] So from the beginning when people made the first houses to figuring out how to make gates, to keep other people out, to figure out how to keep themselves safe from predatory animals, and all those We're like super necessary to get to today, but at a certain point in time, when do we outgrow that expression, that we're so dominant over all the other animals.

[1322] We don't have to worry about that anymore.

[1323] And the only problem we have with each other, it seems to be like allocation of resources.

[1324] I was about to say.

[1325] That's the big one.

[1326] You watch how fast people devolve as soon as there's a limited source of water.

[1327] And your kindergartner or whatever may not have enough water for the day, that's when things get really interesting.

[1328] It's all the question of just what, I mean, most of, most tribes that fought, there was always that situation.

[1329] It was a fight over resources or water rights or whatever it might be.

[1330] Do you know that they're pioneering a new desalienation plant in San Diego?

[1331] They're going to spend some untold fucking buckets load of cash.

[1332] Yeah, and they're going to make this desalienation plant.

[1333] If that's true, what you want to do is buy real estate on Catalina Island because it's going to be a road that leads out there.

[1334] Because we're going to dry out the ocean.

[1335] People are creeps.

[1336] De -salonization is...

[1337] Once they figure out desalinization, we're just going to be sucking the ocean off every day.

[1338] We're just going to be pulling billions of gallons.

[1339] People are like, if we don't stop drinking out of the ocean, it will be dry by 2075.

[1340] By 2075, all the water will be in, like, golf courses and ballwater facilities.

[1341] There'll be no water in the whole ocean.

[1342] Just a big, dry hole.

[1343] Well, they did that, what, to the Aral Sea?

[1344] The Aral Sea was like the ecological disaster that was the Aral Sea, and then it dried up in Russia?

[1345] Is that what it's called the Erald Sea?

[1346] And it dried up because people pulled the water out of it?

[1347] It just, it would become an ecological disaster for a lot of reasons, and apparently the algae grew so much, and there was too much hydrogen in the water, and then there's a thousand things, and they were siphoning the water off with dams and rivers, and it became a disaster.

[1348] Dried up, Arkel Sea, eco -disasteraster.

[1349] Arrow sea.

[1350] There you go.

[1351] And you can look out there.

[1352] Oh, Aero.

[1353] You can look out there and you can just see boats that are just on dry land, huge ocean liners.

[1354] Now, these things, like, how quick do these things happen?

[1355] Like when a sea dries up, do they get a 10 -year window?

[1356] Do you, like...

[1357] Well, I think the ARLC took about 40 years to dry up.

[1358] But look at the boats out there.

[1359] That used to be sea.

[1360] That was all sea.

[1361] All of it.

[1362] Think about that.

[1363] And because of Mississippi.

[1364] mismanagement and using the water irresponsibly for agriculture.

[1365] And so damming up parts of it, running off parts of it, they literally got rid of the sea.

[1366] Wow.

[1367] And that's the eco -disaster.

[1368] So this was all because of human engineering?

[1369] Yes.

[1370] Oh, my God.

[1371] Uh -huh.

[1372] So that was a natural sea, and human engineering led it to dry up.

[1373] That's insane.

[1374] Yeah.

[1375] It's also very common, that kind of short -sighted thinking.

[1376] But it is also fascinating because you're looking at the understanding.

[1377] The underlying mechanisms of the very thing we were talking about, that this human animal is like figuring out all kinds of shit all the time.

[1378] And it has the power to reshape land now and make areas uninhabitable with an error, you know, or bring them to life with an error, like the Salton Sea.

[1379] The Salt and Sea for like a long time, like a couple of decades, was this amazing spot where people would go and vacation.

[1380] they called it like California's Riviera.

[1381] There was a sea that they created by opening up the Colorado River.

[1382] It was an accident.

[1383] The whole thing was an accident.

[1384] Well, you know, South...

[1385] And now it's an eco -disaster, too.

[1386] It is?

[1387] Oh, yeah.

[1388] Now it's horrifically salty and filled with runoff from all the agriculture all across the state.

[1389] I mean, all that shit that's trickling down from up north and all the water systems that's going into there.

[1390] A lot of it, there's...

[1391] You're getting runoff from farms.

[1392] Damn.

[1393] You're getting all sorts of shit.

[1394] Look at all those fish.

[1395] That's where it is, man. They have millions of fish die off.

[1396] The Salton Sea, that's millions.

[1397] Damn.

[1398] The Salton Sea has so many dead bones on its beaches that its beaches are actually dried fish bones.

[1399] Wow.

[1400] His beaches, there's entire beaches that are completely covered with white, dead fish bones.

[1401] And you're walking in it and you don't realize it until you look down on it.

[1402] That's crazy.

[1403] Crazy.

[1404] That is, all that is fish bones.

[1405] Damn.

[1406] That person's walking, taking footsteps in fish bones that are so plentiful that they look like sand.

[1407] And this is still his fish in it.

[1408] There is, when Saddam Hussein was in power in Iraq, there was an area, I think in the south of Iraq, it was, and there lived, people called, they called the Marsh Arabs, who had been there for millennia.

[1409] And when he found out that a lot of Iranian, you know, a lot of the Iranian forces were using it as sort of a hotbed of insurgency and also using it for strategic stuff for the Iran -Iraq war, he, in one of the greatest ecological disasters ever committed by one man, drained the entire marsh.

[1410] And go, if you go to pictures, go to pictures of the marsh Arabs in Iraq in the 70s, and you'll see what it looked like.

[1411] They'd been living there for thousands of years, thousands.

[1412] It goes all the way back to Alexander the Great, and he drained it in the course of less than a year and burned it.

[1413] Well, that gets back to what we were talking about when we were in the car.

[1414] We were talking about hardcore history in the Mongols.

[1415] Look at that.

[1416] Look at that the way they used to live.

[1417] Some people just take things.

[1418] That's a painting, though.

[1419] Some people just take things to a completely different level when it comes to, like, aggression.

[1420] and psychotic behavior, and it becomes a total game changer.

[1421] It's just like, no one knows what to do.

[1422] It takes hundreds of years to recover from what this person does.

[1423] They say that the Middle East never really recovered from what the Mongols did in 2012 -20, 12 -20 or 12 -20 or something.

[1424] Whatever it was.

[1425] Somewhere in the 1 ,200, they were saying about Iraq.

[1426] That was one of the big ones that Baghdad at one point in time was like one of the cultural centers of the world, filled with intellectuals.

[1427] But after the Mongols came, the description was that the river ran red with blood and black with ink.

[1428] So all the Islamic scholars who at the time, like, people have this idea of Islam, especially when it comes to history, like the history of the world, as being this like barbaric or very violent group that's willing to kill you because they, you draw their, their cartoon character guy.

[1429] Yeah, obviously there are people like that out there that are because of that, that believe in that.

[1430] But if you go back to the history of the religion, like at one point in time, they were at the front of the line.

[1431] When it came to science and philosophy, they were at the front of the line.

[1432] And a lot of people argue that what the Mongols did literally changed the age of the enlightenment for them.

[1433] That's right, because what it did is what they did, what they did, the Chinese and the Middle East, allowed the Europeans who were nowhere close to as technologically advanced as philosophically or even as culturally advanced as, say, the Middle East, It allowed them to gain ground on both China and the Middle East because of what the Mongols did to them because it had destroyed in the course of, you know, over the years just destroyed the centers of their civilization, their infrastructure, their canals for agriculture, all of their, just essentially their culture, killed their best and their brightest.

[1434] Yeah, it's really amazing how many people they killed.

[1435] When you look at the number that Dan Carlin cites is somewhere around 50 million, they believe.

[1436] that died within his lifetime as a result of the decisions that he made and the orders that he had carried out somewhere around 50 million people well he believed you know one of the things he ends that yeah he ends the thing with saying we'll say what you will his his force of his nature the strength of his nature he truly believed he was this divine uh spirit who had a mission to remake the world in his in his mind's eye like he was the center of the universe and everything belonged to him and his legacy.

[1437] Yeah.

[1438] What a, what a crazy way to think to begin with.

[1439] And the fact that it worked and he did it all on horseback.

[1440] Yeah.

[1441] Did it all on horseback.

[1442] And he had an amazing ability, which one of the, one of the things I found most unique about this narration by Dan Carlin was when he was talking about how the guy would, when he would find people that were really talented, that were the enemy, he would recruit them.

[1443] Yeah.

[1444] Like a guy shot him off.

[1445] of his fucking horse.

[1446] Shot his horse from under a man. And then he made him one of his generals.

[1447] And he named him the arrow.

[1448] Yeah.

[1449] They called this guy, Jebby, Jebby, the arrow.

[1450] Like, the idea that you would take a guy who tried to fucking kill you and shot your horse out from under you and then say, dude, you're a pretty fucking good shot.

[1451] You give him some knuckles.

[1452] Hey, you want to fucking kill everybody in the world together?

[1453] Like, all right, I'm in.

[1454] All right.

[1455] And these guys that, you know, had an orgy together or something, did some opium.

[1456] Yeah.

[1457] And had a good old time.

[1458] Yeah, he could spot talent.

[1459] Well, he would take people that were, he would capture people, and he would find out, does anybody do anything?

[1460] Any of you motherfuckers have any skills?

[1461] Because if you don't have any skills, I'm going to kill you.

[1462] But if you got some skills, let me know what you do.

[1463] Right.

[1464] You know, and people would say, hey, I'm a surgeon or, hey, were there even surgeons back then?

[1465] Probably.

[1466] I could have been a surgeon back then.

[1467] How about that?

[1468] You would have been like, I'm a blackballed jihitsu.

[1469] What's that?

[1470] Come roll with me. Yeah, I'll show you some shit.

[1471] You would survive.

[1472] Oh, I would have to.

[1473] That's what I'd have to do.

[1474] I'd be like, come on, one of you bitches, let's wrestle.

[1475] Just get them in a guillotine real quick I bet they knew some shit actually And you think about it Like Mongolian wrestling It's like But do you think it went back as far as 1 ,200 It had to have It had to have I mean I don't know if much of they talked about it Because they were so busy Killing each other with arrows and swords and shit And spears and catapults I don't think the wrestling was like paramount You're talking about a group of people though That fought with their hands Up close eyeball to eyeball and did it and all the guys that we're talking about who were coming into your village or your town had had plenty of experience with that in that space like when you're fighting for your life when you're really killing somebody I'd imagine it it's a very different muscle if you're using very different muscles you're using a very different mindset so I would imagine they had a lot of martial sense they probably were pretty pretty good with hand -to -hand combat yeah they probably knew like I mean you think about like the early days of martial arts there was most certainly a lot of faulty technique and faulty ideas.

[1476] They had not taken the most effortless path or the most technical path.

[1477] They hadn't figured it out yet.

[1478] Like there's certainly some evidence that indicates that because by the time we got like the highest versions of martial arts in like the 50s and the 60s and the 70s, if you really compare some of the top guys to like what's possible today, it seems like it's evolved like many many many many many many times I think so I think Hector Lombar's putting a beat down on any fucking Mongol there is Every one that ever walked there Hector Lombar is punching through your fucking stupid Mongol face But those Ruslan Pravodnikov type dudes That's like the same type of dude that's like that guy's an animal Do you see those pictures of him in the post fight where he pissed black?

[1479] No Yes he put it on his Instagram he's doing his urine sample and he pissed black God.

[1480] Yeah, him and Lucas Batesi, I haven't even seen the fight yet.

[1481] I got it saved in my DVR.

[1482] I was on the road.

[1483] Lord, have mercy.

[1484] They went to war, apparently.

[1485] It's a fucking unbelievable fight apparently.

[1486] I haven't seen it.

[1487] Is this, was this USC or was this?

[1488] HBO boxing.

[1489] Oh, I'm sorry.

[1490] Oh, Provodnikov.

[1491] I'm sorry.

[1492] Black urine shows real brutality of boxing.

[1493] Like, look at his Instagram.

[1494] Go to his Instagram.

[1495] Look at that.

[1496] Look at that picture, man. That's not a Diet Coke.

[1497] That's his piss.

[1498] What?

[1499] Yep.

[1500] That's what his urine.

[1501] came out like after 12 rounds of war god damn it that's crazy yeah he's he took how about that fight with bradley it's the craziest fight i've ever seen in my life amazing fight and i think that uh that the genetics that come from that area you know there's from siberia and from the step and mongols and there's like the genetics of survivors of hundreds of years thousands of years of oppression in war.

[1502] Yeah.

[1503] And he's like super.

[1504] It's almost a distillation of like the strongest, I mean, the strongest survive just to be born and lived to maturity.

[1505] People don't like that because it seems to like to indicate like some sort of cruelty of nature.

[1506] But I think to really not be objective about it is real cruelty.

[1507] Because then if you're not, if you're not expressing it for what it really is, you're not seeing it for what it really is and expressing it in an honest way if you're you're expressing it through an ideology you're doing everybody a massive disservice because it's pretty obvious that aggression was necessary and beneficial to get us to hear i think everybody recognizing that would help the idea of like okay so if we really did need to do certain military actions in order to stop certain psychos from from growing and marching forward and taking over giant chunks of land just like they have throughout the Mongol days and this person and filling out and the grain there's always been someone that does that right so you need some sort of defense to hold that off are we agreed and then anybody who doesn't agree then you got a real kumbaya problem because you got to go listen dude have you ever seen really crazy people have you ever been around someone who's willing to kill you for money for fame for women for your women for your water water rights there's people out there that aren't playing by the rules you're playing by.

[1508] Where did you grow up?

[1509] Pasadena.

[1510] That's a great place.

[1511] Pasadena is a great place.

[1512] Not the Tartar steps?

[1513] Yeah, it's not Istanbul, you fuck.

[1514] You know, you know, there's, it's not in the middle of Baghdad in a place that doesn't even have a roof anymore because the soldiers blew it off with their robot flying thing.

[1515] Right.

[1516] No. Changes you.

[1517] Yeah, of course it does.

[1518] Of course it does.

[1519] So anybody that doesn't think you need some sort of military force until that is all eradicated.

[1520] So that becomes like the real question.

[1521] You got to figure out how do you eradicate all the shitty pockets of life on earth and I don't mean like eradicate the people I mean eradicate the problems that make those people shitty and that's a good way to say it by the way because you you have to eradicate the problems and the way a country the institutions that that give rise to evil people if you have a society that's structured if you have institutions that are structured so that the only way to get ahead is if you're a bad if you're if you're an amoral motherfucker not then you're gonna have people like Genghis Khan at all rise to the top.

[1522] You can't, it's the way a society is structured.

[1523] You know, they always talk about we have to cure poverty or whatever.

[1524] The United States is powerful because of its strength of institution.

[1525] It's powerful because we have courts that mean something, because we have property rights, where you own a house and you actually are secure as an American that somebody's not going to come in and take your house.

[1526] Very few countries share that luxury today in 2015.

[1527] And courts that are objective that just because you have a lot of, a lot of money, and I know this is their exceptions to this, but just because you have a lot of money, you're getting off for sure.

[1528] No, we have courts where if you have a lot of money and you kill somebody and you get caught, you get caught on video shooting somebody, you have big problems.

[1529] Well, cops don't have a lot of money, but rich people have been able to really finagle systems with good lawyers.

[1530] That is a problem.

[1531] It is.

[1532] But not to the extent that it is in so many other countries.

[1533] The corruption is not as blatant as it is in so many other countries.

[1534] I think there's no denying that.

[1535] I think the real question becomes um of a one of the customary actions that we've taken because what i mean by that is if you look at people from where we are right now at the the you know 21st century 2015 and you consider what people were like just maybe a hundred years ago 200 years ago like there's never really been a time where people have had this method of communicating with each other so When we used to, we didn't, not only do we not know what was going on in Japan, we had no connection to it, you would read some stuff on paper, there's a guy from Japan that wants to fuck us up.

[1536] This is crazy.

[1537] And you would have no connection to those people and you just knew there's some people over there just like Lord of the Rings, just like, you know, fill in the blank, any war movie from, you know, the Mongols to whatever, the Romans, this idea that you would have this group of people that was waiting to come over and fuck you.

[1538] you up, that doesn't really work anymore.

[1539] It doesn't.

[1540] Because there's satellites everywhere.

[1541] We see everything.

[1542] We send information everybody.

[1543] But this has all happened inside of our lifetime.

[1544] So there's been a change that's taken place that I don't think we're really fully aware of yet.

[1545] There's this weird connection thing that we have to literally everybody on the world.

[1546] Well, also remember that when you had an enemy, even in World War II, the first thing you did was you got your soldiers to believe that that enemy dehuman they were subhuman they weren't human they were subhuman and you see it over and over again again that's becoming harder and harder to do Dan Carlin not to bring it back to him was also talking about how when you fought an enemy in World War I and you you encountered your first line of Germans or whatever you didn't know how far back that line went you didn't know if there were a million of them or if there were just a hundred thousand or two thousand so you just fought not knowing just not only the effect you were having on their on their forward momentum but also on their general population to begin with like you just were fighting and when they stopped fighting then you'd find out holy shit there were a million of them we just fought these guys so just think about that now we know where their regiments are we know how far back they go we know exactly how many people there are we can plan accordingly well not only that we can talk to each other yeah that's that's what was missing was missing was the only people people are talking to each other were generals.

[1547] I mean, the generals and presidents, we're like the only people talking to each other.

[1548] Listen, bitch, we're going to fuck you up.

[1549] No, we're going to fuck you up for God.

[1550] Bitch, God's on our side.

[1551] And wars would start because of these alliances, and they would just be like, well, we're going to fight and break this alliance.

[1552] And then you'd find out about it as a citizen.

[1553] You'd be like, but I'm farming my land.

[1554] I want to know how the fuck the Japanese got together with the Germans and the Italians.

[1555] How the fuck did that happen?

[1556] Which war?

[1557] World War II.

[1558] I mean, I know how it happened, but how the fuck, if you look at like the personalities of the different groups of people and the languages they speak, three completely different fucking languages, three completely different types of people and all their dictators.

[1559] They had a lot of trade and a lot of connection.

[1560] I mean, but one of the things that the Germans, I mean, Hitler wanted to create an access, sort of an access, sort of a new world order, and he had a great deal of respect for the Japanese.

[1561] He considered the Japanese the Aryans of the East.

[1562] And he had enormous respect for the British.

[1563] Really, you consider them the Aryans of the East?

[1564] Yes.

[1565] How convenient.

[1566] He loved their idea of Bushido, which was the idea of the way of the warrior.

[1567] Japan had been in a low -grade war for a civil war for really a thousand years.

[1568] I mean, it was just constant battles between feudal shoguns, like these fiefdoms, like a shogun would run fiefdoms.

[1569] He'd hire mercenaries, and they would just fight for land.

[1570] And that went on for really three hundred and tense years and about a thousand years.

[1571] That's why they're swordsmen and their ability, they were legendary, archers and they were just legendary and ferocious.

[1572] I mean, when the Portuguese were trading with them, they came back, and the first thing they said to their European rulers is they said, hey, couple things you don't want them doing.

[1573] Learning how to sail long distances and learning about a little something we call gunpowder.

[1574] Don't give them gunpowder.

[1575] They are straight up the most ferocious group of motherfuckers on the planet.

[1576] If they're late for something, they immediately request to kill themselves because they've dishonored.

[1577] They're fanatical to authority.

[1578] And, you know, that proved this tiny island took over a great deal of the world.

[1579] They were insanely warlike and impossibly disciplined.

[1580] And their version of martial arts to this day is being taught.

[1581] I mean, once you understand all the, like, Liotto Machita, who lost this weekend, but still, you know, a great all -time fighter.

[1582] I mean, he's an amazing martial artist, and his style is Shodokan -based.

[1583] It's based on that style of karate.

[1584] Judo's a Japanese mention, right?

[1585] So, well, it's really Jiu -Jitsu is as well.

[1586] I mean, Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu was modified by the Gracies.

[1587] It's modified by Helio and Carlos, they modified it and turned Jiu -Jitsu into what it would ultimately become.

[1588] They spent much more time on the ground fighting than the Judo -Kas.

[1589] But a lot of the techniques came from, there was an infusion of techniques where there's like some sort of a blurry crossroads between catch wrestling and judo and some catch wrestlers also taught in Japan like Carl Gotch and Billy Robinson those guys taught a lot of people in Japan like Sakaraba was a student of catch wrestling and so he imparted that like sort of a lot of catch wrestling submission holds that style of attacking he incorporated that in a lot of MMA fights and started a lot of people not just in Japan but all over the world fighting that style.

[1590] So I think there's like there's many different versions of what Japan has brought out to the rest of the world.

[1591] There's many different versions.

[1592] But as far as like martial arts, it's one of the biggest contributors like ever.

[1593] They just figured out Ikeido.

[1594] They figured out judo.

[1595] They figured out juo.

[1596] They figured out jiu -jitsu.

[1597] They figured out submissions in a way that you really can't find parallel at the time.

[1598] I definitely think that that jiu -jitsu is better now than ever before, and I credit that to the Brazilians.

[1599] I credit that to the Graces, and Brazil to this day still has a huge number of super high -level jiu -tutsu guys.

[1600] Worldwide, it's evening out way more than it ever has before, but I mean, just the overall output and the origins of it, and the fact that's still called Brazilian jiu -jitsu.

[1601] Everybody calls it BJJ for a reason.

[1602] You know, they deserve all the credit.

[1603] And there's still guys like Jacques Arre What Jacques Arceau did this weekend And Chris Comozy That arm bar set up That is That transition Like it's such a magician Artistic Artistic It's one of the most spectacular forms Of like a submission Of applying a submission In a scramble That I've ever seen Me too I was just I didn't even know he was doing it I'm like what How do you defend against that You can't defend against that He's an artist I was gonna put it on my Twitter feed I'll re -reteat it earlier today But I think Grappling World On Twitter I think that's the ones who put it up They put up Like a little 15 second GIF, I guess it is Whatever it is on Instagram And you get to watch it It's insane He's so good He's so goddamn good It makes you wonder though Like with the Japanese Going back to them How good they were at As swordsmen Like what they could have done to you Oh yeah Samurai sword That's again I think what we were talking about With the Mongols Like they spent so much time On weapons Because that's how you fought Most of the time Like, how much time were they really spending on learning out to kick people in the face?

[1604] Yeah.

[1605] It's probably, like, a lot of what we think about the way people used to kick and punch is based on movie depictions of it.

[1606] And in movies, like Enter the Dragon or in these kind of crazy movies, they're trying to do the most impressive stuff.

[1607] So they're throwing wheel kicks and jumping roundhouse kicks and jumping side kicks.

[1608] But in real combat, like Bruce Lee wrote very extensively about real combat situations.

[1609] He was always, like, completely fascinated by the concept of utilizing minimum effort, incorporating all the best techniques from all different martial arts and only doing what's effective and discarding what's useless.

[1610] And he, you know, that Tao of G. Kundo, he wrote, like, extensively about all sorts of different martial arts.

[1611] Even, like, lifted whole packages, like paragraphs from other martial arts books and put him in there and people will say, like, oh, he's plagiarizing.

[1612] Well, no, no, no. What he was doing was collecting all the information, whether he attributed it to this book or he should have or I don't know.

[1613] Yeah, I agree.

[1614] Intellectually, probably, it's not the most honest thing to do to not credit.

[1615] Maybe he did credit.

[1616] But my point is, what his art was was absorbing everything.

[1617] He didn't invent any new techniques.

[1618] But what he did was he took the best stuff out of everywhere.

[1619] And he incorporated a system based on his knowledge at the time.

[1620] He took in judo from Gene LaBelle.

[1621] He had arm bars and that.

[1622] I don't like the way you're talking about him.

[1623] I don't like the way you're talking about him in the past 10.

[1624] So you're suggesting he's dead?

[1625] Personally, he's dead brother.

[1626] Wow.

[1627] I guess you haven't read the secret history of the Japanese mafia.

[1628] But my point was that, like, that guy, what he had done is really kind of not just unprecedented, but he was like the first big blip of this new concept, this new concept of just do what's useful.

[1629] What was possible?

[1630] No, do what's useful.

[1631] Everybody else before was in a tribe.

[1632] I was in the Shodokan Karate tribe.

[1633] You're in the, you know, gong fu tribe.

[1634] This guy's in the judo tribe.

[1635] And there was very little exchanging of information.

[1636] You know, I only started exchanging information when I started getting involved in kickboxing because I didn't have good boxing technique.

[1637] So I started working out at a boxing gym.

[1638] And then I started hanging out with the dude who was doing some Muay Thai as well.

[1639] And then I started learning about like leg kicks and all these different things.

[1640] And I remember thinking, God damn, I was so wrong.

[1641] like the camp of taekwondo was good for a bunch of things but it wasn't good for any of these things these guys were doing to me and I'm like damn it there's some holes in this motherfucker and that's the only way you would find out the only way you would find out is by exploring these other martial arts but until bruce lee came along that was like taboo you were a traitor if you went to a different gym to train you were a fucking traitor i remember i remember having been a wrestler and then i went to iowa dan gables camp for i think it was two weeks it was a nightmare and uh three weeks.

[1642] And I, you know, and I got to wrestle with some of those, those NCAA, like Jim Zaleski, those those, those Hawkeyes.

[1643] And as a, as a 17 -year -old, and having wrestled, I kind of, I knew I had a real appreciation for what a really good D -1 college wrestler was about, you know?

[1644] And not because I, not because I ever, I rolled around with those guys, but not because I, you know, it was just, they were teaching us.

[1645] But I knew, I knew what tough high school wrestlers were like.

[1646] And then I, then to think about D -1 wrestlers, and then I'd start taking Taekwondo when I went to.

[1647] to Washington, D .C., and I used to say some of my friends, I'd be like, just know that if you're in a bar, you see a dude with closed up ears, and he looks like he wrestles in college, that's the guy to be afraid of it.

[1648] Buy him a beer.

[1649] Buy him a beer, man. Buy him a beer.

[1650] Because even if you punch him, you better punch him right.

[1651] I remember going, I remember knowing, I was like, I don't know if my kicks are going to work against a dude with a neck like that.

[1652] Well, in a way, it's kind of what we're talking about.

[1653] We were talking about the Mongols, where the Mongols lived this life of constant strain and effort, and they were so strong and the strong survive anyway like as far as like how many I mean they lived in tents man these motherfuckers were constantly at war I'm sure their genes they were like what they had was warrior genetics you know and those people when they encountered regular soft people that lived inside these cities like they were they were like predators to them I mean they had disdain for these people like they were sheep like they were cattle because they were so fucking strong You're dealing with a guy who's a goddamn amateur wrestler a serious competitive amateur wrestler You're dealing with a kid who's probably been wrestling since he was a baby It's all reaction for him everything's reaction not only that His body has developed by throwing bodies around Density and much like you can't understand what it's like to lock up with that gorilla You can't understand how much stronger a division one wrestler is than you You really don't know no like you really probably have no unless you ever wrestle with one of those dudes and he has them grab a hold of your wrists and pin you down and get out of submissions like it's nothing and you feel their posture power they're like several times stronger there's several times that's right if you get a guy who's like like here's a perfect example Habib Nirmagamatov okay that motherfucker's a world sombo champion it's a different kind of wrestling but the point is he uses all wrestling if you watch him fight he's a relentless grappler and when he gets a hold of dudes they're shocked at how fucking strong he is.

[1654] I re -watched that Dosanios fight and the way he was on him.

[1655] Dosanis is a monster.

[1656] And he was just, he was like a, like an octopus, just like a fucking, just wouldn't get off his back.

[1657] He's a motherfuckerucker, dude.

[1658] And he motherfuckers everybody like that.

[1659] He motherfuckers everybody like that.

[1660] I'm so excited about this fight with Cowboy, because I really want to see what Cowboy does to stop him.

[1661] And I really want to see how he does with Cowboy fighting Cowboy on top because Cowboys' Guard is fucking nasty.

[1662] You know, I don't think we've ever seen anybody threaten Habib with any sort of submission attempts before.

[1663] And I wonder what would happen.

[1664] I mean, Dosangos didn't get a chance, man. But Dosangos has never been like a guard player.

[1665] Right.

[1666] You know, he's not a big time guard player.

[1667] He's more of a top smash you guy.

[1668] Yeah, he's really good, man. He's so goddamn good.

[1669] Like what he did to Pettis was like, woo.

[1670] That motherfucker's strong, too.

[1671] He's strong and aggressive.

[1672] But with Donald and Kabib, I wonder, first of all, I think Donald has better hands feet.

[1673] Well, he definitely does.

[1674] He definitely is a better striker, but Habib is just so much stronger when it comes to grappling.

[1675] But Donald, unlike the other guys, is dangerous off his back.

[1676] Donald has a nasty triangle.

[1677] He throws that big, yes, he is.

[1678] He's long, he's got an awesome check knee to the body.

[1679] He throws that check knee with the left side.

[1680] He fucks guys up.

[1681] And he mirrors it a lot of times or hides it behind punches.

[1682] Like Donald, you'll see will throw punches where he's not even intended to hit you.

[1683] He's just getting you look at these.

[1684] And if you think of moving in, and then, boom, that knee comes to the body, he fucks guys up with that.

[1685] He's putting on a show for you, man. He's dancing like a cobra.

[1686] Yeah.

[1687] You know, he hides kicks behind punches.

[1688] Like, he did that when he fought Jim Miller.

[1689] He showed him the right hand, and boom, the neck kick was right behind it.

[1690] Damn.

[1691] You're looking at that right hand, and this fucking neck kick comes along, bang, and your legs go out.

[1692] He's a motherfucker, dude.

[1693] If he beats Cubby, and this is going to be crazy.

[1694] He's a motherfucker.

[1695] They're both motherfuckers.

[1696] Donald's a motherfucker and Habib's a motherfucker.

[1697] That could be easily a world championship fight.

[1698] That's easily world championship caliber fighters.

[1699] I love when they asked him about Conrad Gregor and Habib said, this is a very good fighter, but if he won't come to 155, he's welcome.

[1700] I make him welcome.

[1701] He starts in his elbow.

[1702] He's welcome.

[1703] Good job.

[1704] Keeping that guy off you if you're supposed to be fighting 10 pounds longer than you are.

[1705] Good luck, especially if you're not a wrestler first.

[1706] Yeah, well, listen, man, I'm not, I wouldn't say that Connor can't fight at 155, what I would say, that if he's competing successfully at the top at 145, like he is right now, the transition time, unless he's doing some Mexican supplements, is going to be a long transition time to put on the right amount of weight to compete at that level.

[1707] It's a world of difference, right?

[1708] Yeah, because he's pretty elite at 145 in his movement, in his endurance, like, he's not having any problems, and he hasn't, granted, he hasn't been in a real war, and that's what everybody really wants to see.

[1709] wants to see him against a wrestler because everybody we've seen has tried to stand up with him and he's got nasty hands man nasty power nasty accuracy super aggressive with his striking disdainful almost with his stance and his movement towards you it's shocking his confidence and i think that fucks with a lot of people's heads man a lot of people when he comes at you and it's he's been talking shit about you for months already made you feel like an asshole you can't you get you in the cage you know everybody's thinking like and then by the time you get in there like you've suffered a mental beating already whether you know it or not like you're you're at a deficit i said i asked him where his confidence comes from so why how did you like you know he said t's he's how it has two belts he was a european national champion in boxing he's got another belt for something else but i said where does this come from he says my work ethic i said i know but a lot of guys work hard he goes they think they work hard but they don't i my i if it does not involve the fight game it does not involve me and that was it he goes other guys have extracurricular activities I don't I count my money and I fight and those are the two things I like to do he's a game changer he's a game changer he's like chale times two best thing that ever happened to Jose Aldo's career yeah profile unless it goes down the way Connor thinks it's going to go down then it's probably the worst thing to have some guy come along and humiliate you and then fuck you up and you leave with a check you were one of the best pound -for -pound fighters in the world but if Connor could do to him what he did to Dustin Poirier that would be the most shocking thing we've ever seen inside the officer.

[1710] It'll be crazy.

[1711] Do you compare Dustin Poirier as a fighter to Jose Alvin?

[1712] Of course not.

[1713] No. And that's no disrespect to Dustin.

[1714] Because I think Dustin was doing himself a disservice by cutting down to 145.

[1715] I think you look fucking sensational his last fight.

[1716] He looked amazing at 55.

[1717] He looked comfortably.

[1718] He looked thick.

[1719] He was moving well.

[1720] He's still fast as shit.

[1721] I think Dustin's a big boy.

[1722] And I think those guys that cut down to 45 like that, fuck, it's your body is getting tortured.

[1723] And you can kind of bounce back from it.

[1724] And when you're younger it's easier than when you get older when you've been in the game a long time and your body's been taking kicks and punches and you know you're dehydrating every few months and then rehydrating and like after a while that shit is going to pay you're going to pay a price it's going to pay its toll and I think that a guy who is a really good fighter that cuts less weight and has a less great advantage but has a full healthy body and all of the endurance that comes with that and all the peace of mind knowing that you slept well and ate well and your body feels like really rested in you should you probably are better off somewhere on the comfortable side of that than in the comfortable side of too dehydrated because those are the people that wind up looking almost like there's points where they're almost like helpless because their body has dehydrated so much and the the gruelingness of the fight like there's some guys you never see do it like some guys pull it off like benson henderson he pulls it off man He pulls it off.

[1725] Like, you never see that guy tired.

[1726] You never see that guy worn out, and he loses a lot of weight.

[1727] But then when you saw him fight against Brandon Thatch, what you saw is one guy who's enormous, Thatch, who's a huge for 170.

[1728] He cuts a lot of weight.

[1729] So big.

[1730] And Benson wasn't cut in hardly any weight at all, if any, to fight at 170, because he usually fights at 155.

[1731] Worked.

[1732] It's fucking great.

[1733] And part of it you have to consider is that Benson is a guy with way more experience, way more ways to win and a way better ground game.

[1734] I mean, Benson has a legitimate black belt ground game and his manager and trainer, John Crouch, he's legit as they come.

[1735] Like Benson is super good on the ground.

[1736] He's very good on the ground.

[1737] Despite the fact that Pettus caught him in that arm bar, that was just so goddamn quick and perfect.

[1738] Yeah.

[1739] But when you look at his real ground game, like when he fought that, you realize like, you know what, man, it might be better if he fought bigger guys and he was healthy.

[1740] It might be better because he's so technical.

[1741] Like, it's not about it's like the guys who rely on slugging and out and smashing and hulk smashing dudes those guys have to be really big for their weight class right but the guys who fight like benson or like frankie super technical super endurance constantly on you you know always cutting angles always making you work always pushing you always putting pressure on you i think benson henderson is is you know can keep me with anybody in 70s certainly robbie luller and and uh any of those guys in johnny hendricks He's kind of a very similar...

[1742] He's just as tall.

[1743] It might be a little shorter, but for the most part, I think that there's nobody in the 70 -pound weight class that I think gives him a beating, including Carlos...

[1744] Well, you know, he could be a champion in 170.

[1745] And everybody says that's ridiculous because it's so...

[1746] But look, man, that fucking weight class is nuts.

[1747] All right?

[1748] Anybody in any given night in that weight class could be a champion.

[1749] Same with 55.

[1750] Rory McDonald could be a champion.

[1751] Robbie Lawler is the champion.

[1752] I mean, either one of those guys could be champion.

[1753] You know, I mean, Condit could still be champion.

[1754] Woodley could be champion.

[1755] Hector Lombard could be champion.

[1756] Oh, I forgot about Hector.

[1757] I keep forgetting about guys like Hector.

[1758] He's out for a year.

[1759] Yeah, steroids.

[1760] For the juices, my friend.

[1761] He had the juices.

[1762] I thought he said that anybody who does steroids should be banned for life.

[1763] Didn't he say something like that?

[1764] Someone gave him a drink, my friend, and he did not know what it was in it.

[1765] Somebody rubbed oil on his body when he wasn't looking.

[1766] There's some translation issues between Spanish and English and the pharmacy.

[1767] I don't know, man Who fucking knows I always forget though whenever we talk about the 85 pound weight class 70 pounds I forget about him and I forget about guys like Yole Romero Well he's 70 now He went down to 70 Hector's at 170 But Y 'all Romero He's another beast man It was a bummer That he didn't get to fight Jacques Array this weekend That would have been insanity What happened to him?

[1768] His knee He got hurt, he hurt his knee Damn it Fuck That was an insane fight And then you know It became an insane demonstration See if you could find that jiff of Jacqueray, Arm bar, and Chris Comosi.

[1769] I think if I had to put money on the Yol Romero -Jacerite fight, I go with Jacques -Rae because I still think, Yor Marear, if he's fighting five rounds, if it's four and five, he starts to gas because he's just there's so much muscle to feed.

[1770] So the top one is the guard pass, which was equally ridiculously impressive, and the bottom one is the actual Arm bar, Jamie.

[1771] Yeah, that's the guard pass.

[1772] We just put all that, look all the weighty put on him with the one shoulder, where his whole body's up.

[1773] Priest turn off ad block.

[1774] Fuck you, man. Bitches running scripts on your shit.

[1775] Find it on another, go to another website.

[1776] But anyway, point being, this era that we're living in right now is like greatest ever for martial arts, I think.

[1777] I don't think there's ever been a time ever in my life where I've seen this level of execution.

[1778] on a scale like this.

[1779] It just didn't exist before.

[1780] It didn't exist when you combine the skill level of the kickboxers, like the glory kickboxers, skill level of the guys that are coming out of Thailand, you know.

[1781] It's just all a sharing of ideas, right?

[1782] Everybody's sharing their own techniques.

[1783] Buoka.

[1784] Well, you can watch them online now, too.

[1785] That helps a lot.

[1786] Yeah.

[1787] And there's, I just think that overall, jujitsu, Muay, kickboxing, and MMA.

[1788] I don't think there's ever been a time that has been even close.

[1789] to be represented the way martial arts are represented today but that's just part of it the real impressive thing was the the transition to that they were in a scramble that's just the end of it they were in a scramble and jacqueray dove on his arm and threw a leg over and then hooked him under his leg to keep him from rolling out of it and then scooted his hips to the left and i was watching i was like that is art that's ballet he's a master i think you know it was having it was happening right away right yeah I knew he was going for the arm as soon as I saw him I think I probably yelled it out he's diving for an arm but I could tell that he he does that all the time some guys don't like to do that because it's a tricky transition between like sometimes from the back some guys will say you know what this guy is defending a choke too good I'm going to set up the arm bar like um Hussamar Paul Harris did that uh to Ivan salivary he went from the the back to an arm bar there's a video of him doing that same exact transition to uh to gym to um to Jason Miller.

[1790] I think that he's got a lot of techniques like that where he can transition from the back to something else.

[1791] Jack Gray does.

[1792] He's got levels of transitions that other people just don't know.

[1793] Like I was watching Comosey and I'll see Comozy trying to figure out what Jacques Grey was doing while he was doing it.

[1794] And it was just, it was so high level, dude.

[1795] It was so high level.

[1796] Like if you're a guy who does jujitsu and you, watch how um how this transition flows this is not it you gotta go through it's before that yeah but it's before that it's not it's they missed the whole thing so this is just an arm bar this is an arm bar and it's impressive but that's not what's impressive what was impressive was the full transition go to that grappling world uh instagram grappling world on instagram that's where i said it was uh you could see the whole thing but the way he does it it's like you have to have this insane knowledge of where to put your legs in the transition where he's going to likely wind up where his leg's going to kick and there's so much data that he's calculating and it's all based on technique just like very it's minimal effort like none of that that he did was strength and that's like the most pure expression of martial arts I mean he's certainly strong as fuck strength certainly aided him and pulling off the move don't get me wrong right what I'm saying is that move was pulled off because of his perfect technique I mean you have to be a physically strong person to do anything to a jiu jiu jitsu person, but there was no resistance there.

[1797] If you look, there was defense, but the way he moved into that position, he was never resisted.

[1798] Right.

[1799] Because he was so far ahead of Comozy, technically.

[1800] Like, in the dive, Camozy is like, oh, shit, he's diving.

[1801] Where's his legs going?

[1802] Oh, fuck.

[1803] He's already ahead of him.

[1804] He was ahead of him.

[1805] He was way ahead of you.

[1806] He's way ahead of you.

[1807] That's why when you roll with really good guys, they are ahead of you.

[1808] They've been there before.

[1809] They've seen what you're going to do.

[1810] They can predict what you're going to do.

[1811] And sometimes if they're really good, they can get you to think you're going to do something.

[1812] You do that.

[1813] You do that.

[1814] You do that.

[1815] they already know you're going to do that and then they capitalize on it's what makes jacqueray truly special you know there's two there's two runnings right now for the number one contender after this chris wadman vitor belfort fight there's jacqueray and then luke rachel yeah and i think luke rochold made a giant statement by beating machida and smashing him didn't luke hold beat jaccarat yes he did yes he did he did what's your take on that it's a very good fight look i think rock hold against anybody is a very good fight rock hold is a motherfucker dude there's no denny denying it now after what he did the good looking guy either the only reason why anybody gets laid is because rock hold didn't get there first it's just a fact got there first there would be no pussy for anybody else that's the bottom line he's handsome bastard but more importantly what he does inside the octagon is super unusual man he's a long guy it's like Javier Mendes explained it to me in the cage after the fight and i was congratulating him and bob cook Javier said he's long and he's strong usually don't get those two together oh because he's a long dude but he's all also yoked as fuck he's not like a long skinny hodger gracey type grappler dude right he's long and he's yoked and he trains on a daily basis with cane motherfucking falasquez i didn't know oh that's right he's in daniel motherfucking cormier so every day this guy's going to war with the biggest killer the heavyweight division has ever known outside of fador this is just two guys that you can ever consider to be the greatest heavyweights ever there's one who's in the ufccane velasquez and One from Pride, Fadour.

[1816] Both of whom are, don't have, if I saw him on the beach, I would be like, that guy used to work out.

[1817] That's what I'd say.

[1818] Perfect way of describing Fadour.

[1819] Yeah.

[1820] He used to work out.

[1821] Well, in the day, the earlier days of his career, he was a little thicker.

[1822] Like there's been this picture of him standing in front of the kettlebells.

[1823] What a great picture to jerk off to.

[1824] 100%.

[1825] I've dropped the number of loads, straight loads, but still.

[1826] I'm a straight man. I just admire.

[1827] I like that.

[1828] Are you rushing?

[1829] Bear, you fucking Russian bear!

[1830] The size of your tendons are bigger, right?

[1831] Your traps!

[1832] Oh, God, long legs.

[1833] Stud, all -time great.

[1834] High insertion cabs!

[1835] I mean, it's hard to say...

[1836] He doesn't shave his chest, does he?

[1837] Does he?

[1838] He can give a fuck.

[1839] It's hard to say, like, who would have won in a fight in his prime versus Kane in his prime because they came in two totally different errors.

[1840] And if you want to look at accomplishments, boy, it's really hard to discount Crowe Cop being...

[1841] or Fador being Croke Cop Fador beaten pretty much everybody they put in front of them in Pride.

[1842] I mean, he really beat some of the best in the world.

[1843] And the heavyweight division in Pride back then was probably outside of Tim Sylvia and Frank Mear who in their prime could give anybody a hard time.

[1844] That was probably the strongest heavyweight division the world has ever known because everybody, first of all, was allowed to do all sauce some Mexican supplements.

[1845] This is true.

[1846] You could do whatever the fuck you wanted and you were dealing with guys who were fighting for a lot of fucking money I mean there was a you got, think about it, you got Alexander Millianenko, you got Crow Cop you got Crow Cop in his prime when he was head kicking Vandolay to sleep you know?

[1847] Oh my good cugly Moogley you got Minotaro who was fighting off his back and triangling Mark Coleman off his back like Coleman in his prime Colman was strong as fuck dude There was nothing to triangle Just a head and shoulders.

[1848] Minotaro, when he was off his back, was special, dude.

[1849] He represented a thing that no one had ever seen before.

[1850] A real, legit Brazilian jihitsu black belt who's a fucking bonafide heavyweight who strangles guys off of his back.

[1851] Why don't they call him Minotaur?

[1852] Because he was like the Minotaur, you got lost in the maze of his jiu -jitsu, or what was it?

[1853] That's a good question.

[1854] I don't know.

[1855] I'm going to guess.

[1856] That's what it is.

[1857] Because you don't want to get lost in Minotoro's maze.

[1858] Maybe.

[1859] Maybe it's just like he's half bull.

[1860] you know because it's so fucking strong it's toughy shit that guy was tough shit yeah Jesus just another level yeah just another level of toughness so you think about minotaro okay Fador beats him in his prime and Fador beat Crocop in his prime they never fought Josh Barnett and him never fought when he was in Josh was in his prime Kevin Randleman remember that he beat Kevin Rattelman he suplexed him no Kevin Ralleman suplexed him and then he got him in an armbar just moments later He's like, not good enough.

[1861] I'll break this.

[1862] Okay, top.

[1863] That was the craziest transition.

[1864] Dude, he was a motherfucker.

[1865] He was a motherfucker.

[1866] Fador was a motherfucker.

[1867] And his timing, his timing with those shots.

[1868] Fantastic.

[1869] And his ability to knock guys out.

[1870] And, Andre Olavsky knocked him out.

[1871] In the air.

[1872] But that was, by the way, a fight where Arlovsky was picking him apart.

[1873] Yes, it was.

[1874] And that was a fight where a lot of people looked at and went, hmm, this guy's got some holes.

[1875] And it was also a fight where he was criticized by his old trainer.

[1876] His trainer was saying, you know, he's up to.

[1877] his old tricks.

[1878] He won with a trick.

[1879] He's like, but he didn't prepare for this properly.

[1880] His trainer was vocal about that.

[1881] Yeah, because Arlowski was training with Freddie Roach, I think.

[1882] I think you're right.

[1883] Yeah.

[1884] Well, Arlowski got crazy and went with that flying knee.

[1885] And if he didn't go with that flying knee, who knows what would happen?

[1886] If he continued to pick him apart like that, it could have been crazy.

[1887] It could have been crazy to watch Fedor get kickboxed.

[1888] You know, but Arlowski, at least on paper, was a, you know, a very formidable kickboxing threat.

[1889] He had, like, one punch, knockout, laser straight, right hand.

[1890] He threw a right hand that when he knocked out Paul Blentello, like early in the first round, he threw a right hand that was like a bolt.

[1891] It's like, but you, he comes off his shoulder, hits you in your chin.

[1892] You don't even know what the fuck happened.

[1893] He's so fast.

[1894] Yeah, ridiculous.

[1895] When Arlowski was in his prime, dude, people were terrified of him.

[1896] Remember the first time he came in there.

[1897] This 240 -pound guy who moved like a small man. Yeah.

[1898] With that ponytail.

[1899] Well, when Fado had got to him, he had lost a few, and he'd been out of the UFC, and, you know, he was fighting for affliction.

[1900] you know but um still still was pretty formidable and if you look at his performance in five rounds who knows that's the problem it's like you'd have to have a time machine you'd have to coordinate like you know when what version of cane before the first fight with junior dos Santos before the second fight with junior dos Santos you know I mean junior dos Santos knocked him out in the first fight and then they went to fucking war for two fights in a row and those fights you got to think like man Fador obviously lost a step somewhere along the way and you have to attribute it if you don't attribute it to his focus I don't know what his focus was in training if his coach is saying something like that it could be that he was kind of getting tired of fighting or it could be the goddamn wars he went through I mean nobody rides for free when it comes to those crazy fucking 10 minute rounds they would fight the sparring sessions that he would go through you know me we were talking to Tony Jeffreys about this and he was calculated And he had 106 fights, 26 of which were pro, I think.

[1901] And he said, if you look at all the rounds, I fought to prepare for those 106 fights.

[1902] And this is when I became an amateur.

[1903] It's not when I was a kid.

[1904] He calculated he takes about, he took over 55 ,000 shots to the head.

[1905] God damn it.

[1906] 55 ,000.

[1907] And that's typical for a lot of boxers, because you've got to take into account.

[1908] The five jabs, just the five jabs you take around, even if they're light, when you're sparring.

[1909] It's so crazy.

[1910] Yeah.

[1911] So crazy when you, you know, when you just think about all the different micro injuries and different times the brains rottling against a skull, different little things that have little connective tissue that's separating or twisting or popping or.

[1912] I know, but don't you need some of that in life?

[1913] Like, I was going to ask you, you know.

[1914] A trauma?

[1915] No, I will.

[1916] Somebody in Dan Collins' pocket has this French general, I think, or a British general, said, we have to have war because if man doesn't have war, we'll dissolve into materialism.

[1917] And I thought, all right, whatever, that sounds like a general.

[1918] But there is something to be said about a conflict -free world, as we were talking about.

[1919] And I was wondering, like, and I was just trying to, like, draw a through line to the people I really connect with, my really good friends, the friends that I have.

[1920] And it's not that they're all, you are, but it's not that they're all fighters or necessarily, but they definitely have and continue to sort of live in a world that is not, of course, like the monster.

[1921] But they keep themselves a little uncomfortable.

[1922] They are always in touch with kind of coming up with their own with a sense of reality.

[1923] Well, that's why I told you before, you're the only dude that I'd ever ask to go to Montana to sleep when it's fucking nine degrees outside in a little cloth house.

[1924] It's horrible.

[1925] Well, nobody, none of the other comics we know are really going to are going to hack that.

[1926] I don't think Duncan and I love him and Tony Henscliffe are going to like hiking up those mountains in that cold.

[1927] Tony might get down with it, I'm telling you Tony might get down with it That little fucker is, he's a determined little weasel Really?

[1928] I shouldn't say weasel, I meant to say, I'm not weasel He's the golden pony, he's a golden pony I meant badger He's a determined little, he's like, weasels are tough little fucking animals by the way That's a weird thing like weasel became somehow or another Tough as shit An asshole like weasels kill cobras don't they Well they're the Wiesel the kids Mongo's family yeah They're tough little fuckers But when you say Wiesel you're like Oh the dude's wheezee and the asshole I mean, he's not to be fucked with.

[1929] Tony will rise up.

[1930] He will figure out.

[1931] With a pack on his back and that cult?

[1932] Eh, you know what, man?

[1933] Physically, he's not exactly designed for it.

[1934] He's not designed for it, but he's a tough little fucker.

[1935] Look at that.

[1936] This photo of a baby weasel flying?

[1937] That's that Photoshop.

[1938] Oh, come on.

[1939] Someone caught this?

[1940] A baby weasel?

[1941] How did he get on this bird?

[1942] I don't believe it.

[1943] Why don't you believe it?

[1944] It can happen.

[1945] Really?

[1946] Yeah, the world's crazy.

[1947] Why is that so weird?

[1948] That's amazing.

[1949] Some baby weasel figured out how to jump on this fucking bird's back.

[1950] Tell me right now, I think it's completely photoshop.

[1951] Listen, we know weasels exist.

[1952] We know birds can fly.

[1953] Why would it be so hard to imagine?

[1954] Perhaps you're right.

[1955] Perhaps the weasel jump on its back and they went on an adventure.

[1956] All the fucking variables in the world when it comes to wildlife that this couldn't take place?

[1957] Watch this.

[1958] I don't think that bird would be able to hang.

[1959] The weasel would be able to hang on.

[1960] Look at his little.

[1961] But also that weasel doesn't have any strength That's a baby That bird's not letting that weasel on them Jamie please snopes this And get back to us with the final results It's actually real Wow Come on Jamie says it's actually real I'm still crying I'm still calling bullshit Don't call bullshit Wow there's another picture of it Weasel catches a ride on a woodpecker What's that guy's a liar That guy's fucked that woodpecker That's Ariel Sharon Is he?

[1962] I don't know That's the guy who caught it on camera Wow Better not be lying dude Those hacksores dudes are gonna find you they'll find you can't lie to them yeah they have elite skills with the Photoshop layers remember that like these Photoshop guys were going over the fucking image that Obama's birth certificate look it's clearly been doctored in Photoshop God Photoshop do you know anything about that Jamie the layers of the Photoshop argument when it comes to Obama's Obama's birth certificate was doctored in Photoshop I'll show you doctored if you watch if you if you take it apart, the image is several fowls.

[1963] Some of them he's from fucking Kenya.

[1964] From several fouls.

[1965] How about this?

[1966] How about he's from Hawaii, which is not America anyway?

[1967] How about that?

[1968] You know what?

[1969] He's from a fucking, he's from a country.

[1970] We stole from a tropical island.

[1971] Really nice group of people.

[1972] Yeah, they were sweet.

[1973] We say it's an island.

[1974] It's just a small country.

[1975] That's what it is.

[1976] I agree.

[1977] Hawaiians are Hawaiians.

[1978] They're not Americans.

[1979] I mean, they are Americans.

[1980] in and since they'll take them in protecting with the Constitution and the military of the United States of America.

[1981] Pearl Harbor, never forget.

[1982] They're in our protectorate.

[1983] Look at Barack.

[1984] But what I'm saying is, Hawaii, oh, shit, there's two different pictures and they photoshopped him in there?

[1985] Maybe.

[1986] Maybe.

[1987] Hmm.

[1988] Where's the hand?

[1989] Where's that left hand?

[1990] He's got it up her ass in that second picture.

[1991] Interesting.

[1992] Hmm, this is not real.

[1993] Oh, these are whole.

[1994] hilarious.

[1995] These are hilarious.

[1996] Chunk of ear edge missing.

[1997] Oh, Jesus Christ, it's not even a high -resolution photo, you fucking weirdos.

[1998] So annoying.

[1999] Don't they understand the difference between looking at something with a white background and looking at something with a black background?

[2000] Go up to that ear.

[2001] I'll just prove this right now, you fucking dummy.

[2002] See the difference?

[2003] See where the transition is?

[2004] The transition is right where the white meets the black.

[2005] You know why it happens?

[2006] Because a fucking camera picks it up like that.

[2007] Again, to bring it back, this is becoming the Dan Carlin podcast, but he said something really cool about how people like conspiracy theories because it's really hard to believe that the random just happens or that one man like Lee Harvey Oswald can change the course of history with a bullet and that's a lot harder to believe than a group of people who were very organized ended up doing what they did and it's human we all want we want a logical explanation not a random one not the fact that we're fragile enough that one man can fuck everything up with with a good bullet or a good bomb it's just it's that time where that was possible.

[2008] I wonder if that's possible today.

[2009] And it's certainly to a lesser extent.

[2010] Like, certainly there's a weirder connection that people share today than they've ever done before.

[2011] And I wonder how much we realize about how that's shaping societies, how it's shaping just human civilization as a human, you know, we were talking about before as a gigantic superorganism, superorganism that relied on aggression to get to a certain point of innovation.

[2012] And then once it got to that, certain point of innovation, when does it no longer need aggression and when does it need like a realization of what it actually is?

[2013] Instead of aggression, when does it need a realization like, listen, listen, the only way that's going to work out for everybody is we've got to act for everybody, that's the only way.

[2014] If the human race just treats everybody that way, like you have to like find where the weak spots are, prop them up, figure out why they're fucked up, engineer them correctly, you know, as far as social engineering, education, counseling.

[2015] are you saying that we should do unto others is that we'd have them do unto us exactly as rabbi hello and a guy named jesus christ said and once you get to a point where you have something called the internet and people can exchange these ideas and exchange these these points of view and these expressions like this is how i feel about you this is how you feel about me when you communicate like this you communicate like this in a real time in a way that's never happened before so they're not like these weird people in germany that you don't know that are They have this guy standing on top of a podium and he's screaming shit out.

[2016] And you're like, what's going on over there?

[2017] Why are they all marching?

[2018] Why are they all goose stepping like that?

[2019] What are they doing with the Jews?

[2020] Like, what the fuck is going on over there?

[2021] And you're reading things about it in the paper and you're trying to take these little printed words and piece them into a narrative that makes sense in your head.

[2022] You're reading the New York Times every morning to find out what's the news with Europe?

[2023] What's going on over there with our boys?

[2024] And you want to look into the paper trying to find out how the score is of the war.

[2025] you're listening to the radio at night the fucking radio you're listening to the radio you're listening to the radio you're explaining you would go to the movies and they would show a clip a highlight war reel clip of the news while you're waiting for your movie to start I know what the fuck it was very controlled too your information was controlled war was actually was actually kind of presented in a very sanitized way as well and in many ways still is like the idea that when you get hit with heavy artillery you come apart there are not holes in your body we don't show a lot of that stuff you know probably shouldn't well shouldn't we wouldn't it be good for people to know what the fuck they're signing up for I don't know I know that the I know that the logic was always that you you censored media during wartime and didn't let them show the really horrific stuff because it was bad for morale among troops and at home now does that make sense to you I don't I don't know enough about what it's like to motivate young men to go to battle.

[2026] I don't know enough about what it's like to be a general or a person in power when I'm in a wartime situation.

[2027] I don't know what it's like to be, to have the very existence of my country under threat the way we were in World War II when those kinds of policies were made.

[2028] So I don't know, man. I think I'd have a very different point of view if I was, that's all.

[2029] And I think we'd all have very different points of view and would do very, very different things and be, Maybe a lot like the leaders we criticize if we were under the kinds of responsibilities and pressures that the leaders we talk about were under.

[2030] I think that if I were the Emir, the Caliphate of Baghdad, and I knew that the Mongols were doing what they were doing to people and they were on the way to see me, I'd be pretty ruthless with any kind of dissent, any kind of Mongol sympathy.

[2031] And I would be pretty ruthless with anybody who wasn't pitching in for the very survival of my town or my city.

[2032] Right, because the consequences are so high of not taking it seriously and not being aggressively prepared.

[2033] Yes.

[2034] The question becomes, like, how, if ever, is it possible that because of the fact that we can communicate with each other all across the world instantaneously, how is it possible that we move past the idea of armed conflicts entirely?

[2035] Like, isn't it possible?

[2036] It is possible and it's already kind of happening.

[2037] How can you say that when we're going to war?

[2038] I mean, we're in the middle of like pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan while maintaining thousands of troops.

[2039] Yes.

[2040] We have bases all over the world.

[2041] Yes.

[2042] There's this ISIS shit that's going on.

[2043] There's all sorts of...

[2044] Because overall, if you look at the number of violent deaths from 2000 until 2015, according to Stephen Pinker and his very well -researched book called The Angels of Our Better Nature, essentially said, it proves and makes the case that fewer people have died violently in that span of time, even with the Congo, even with the Middle East, even with all the things that go on, in comparison to any other time of epoch, any other time in history.

[2045] And it seems that a lot of countries, like China, for example, China, yes, rattles its sword to Taiwan and things, but China gains a great deal more from being an economic powerhouse.

[2046] Military powerhouse just isn't, and I maintain this case.

[2047] with Iran.

[2048] Iran wants hegemony.

[2049] Iran wants control over parts of the Middle East.

[2050] Iran has a lot of influence with the Shia, over the Shia, Sunni schism in the Middle East, etc. I think Iran gains a lot more and we could create incentives for Iran and we are trying to, at least parts of the government are.

[2051] Some people disagree with this.

[2052] I feel like if you created a situation where Iran saw that there was much more to be gained from joining the economic community and playing ball in accordance with its laws, than in getting well.

[2053] weapons of mass destruction.

[2054] They're all scared that those chicks are going to find out they don't have to wear burkas in America.

[2055] And then they're going to come over on boats.

[2056] Cover your face.

[2057] Come over on boats and they're going to seek out black dick like a magnet.

[2058] Like a magnet to steal filings.

[2059] They're tired of being suppressed.

[2060] They want to twerk on some dude in a club.

[2061] Maybe.

[2062] With no crazy, funky religious outfit on.

[2063] And they can escape.

[2064] You know why?

[2065] Because no one knows what they look like.

[2066] They could just blend right in.

[2067] Good luck in your passport photo when it's looking through a fucking lid of a garbage can like Oscar the Grass.

[2068] In and out, baby.

[2069] That's what your fucking passport looks like.

[2070] You see your eyeballs.

[2071] They have to take their shit out for their passport, right?

[2072] Don't they?

[2073] Are they allowed to?

[2074] It's like stealing their soul or something, right?

[2075] Well, the minute that a lot of Saudi women go to places like London and Kuwait, guess what comes off immediately.

[2076] Their headdress, the whole burqa thing.

[2077] And they go shopping and they dress in sexy outfits and they're just like, yeah.

[2078] It's oppression, man. It's just amazing that you've got countries that in 2015 still.

[2079] They'll make women dress like they're in Star Wars.

[2080] But there's another reason for it.

[2081] There's another reason for it.

[2082] There was another very logical reason for it.

[2083] Logical?

[2084] Well, I'm just saying if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're a religious, if you're a, I'm just saying if you're a religious man. And if you are trying to create a productive society, the logic went if you have women walking around looking all sexy and naked, which was a lot of the Middle East, if you have that, what happens.

[2085] is we're thinking about fucking and not producing.

[2086] Yeah.

[2087] So you got to cover your chicks up.

[2088] Damn it.

[2089] If you want to get any work done.

[2090] That's not true, though.

[2091] I agree.

[2092] Because America produces like a motherfucker.

[2093] How about that?

[2094] How about that?

[2095] We got hot freaks over here.

[2096] It's so true.

[2097] Freedom.

[2098] Freedom.

[2099] Is that what she looked like, really?

[2100] Is that Princess Lane?

[2101] Is that a real body?

[2102] Yeah, it is.

[2103] Damn, she had a banging body.

[2104] That she did.

[2105] That was real too.

[2106] That was pre -suck and tuck.

[2107] You know, she didn't have no lipo.

[2108] Couldn't look more bored.

[2109] She was beautiful at the time.

[2110] Very exotic, I was like.

[2111] Princess Leo.

[2112] With a steel bro.

[2113] She made out with her brother.

[2114] Remember that shit?

[2115] I love it.

[2116] She kissed her brother on her lips and his dick out of heart.

[2117] Is that true?

[2118] It had to.

[2119] He didn't know that it was his sister.

[2120] That's rude.

[2121] Your sister comes along and gives you a real kiss.

[2122] With a body like that?

[2123] Yeah.

[2124] She doesn't even bother telling you that she's...

[2125] Did she know at the time?

[2126] Did she know?

[2127] No, no one knew.

[2128] Did you ever have to do a love scene when you were?

[2129] an actor back in the day?

[2130] I wasn't an actor.

[2131] I was never really an actor.

[2132] I was never really an actor.

[2133] I did acting work.

[2134] I had to do some serious love scenes.

[2135] It was awkward and weird.

[2136] I bet, man. Because I'm an actor.

[2137] And weird as it is being in a car with you for six hours, trying to have up to turkey hunt.

[2138] How about that, huh?

[2139] We have a good time, dude.

[2140] We did have a good time.

[2141] We always have, I will always hunt because it's just people like, why are you going?

[2142] It has nothing to do with killing the animals.

[2143] For me, I get to hang with you.

[2144] We get to be idiots and laugh.

[2145] It was like I was saying.

[2146] There's not a whole lot of dudes I'd ask to sleep in a tent.

[2147] You know, come on, man, we're going to go.

[2148] We've got to go to some place.

[2149] Like, I'm calling my TV star, you know, famous comedian friend, going, come on, dude, we're going to go, we're going to sleep under the stars in Montana.

[2150] Napa Valley.

[2151] We're going to go shoot deer, and then we're going to eat them over a campfire.

[2152] Are you in?

[2153] Turkey hunting was interesting.

[2154] I can't give it away, but I will say that I killed between zero and 10 birds.

[2155] That's a good number.

[2156] You know, the turkey hunting is very exciting.

[2157] It's fun.

[2158] But it, um, the only issue that I have, and I don't have.

[2159] really have an issue with it.

[2160] But the only thing that I would say, if it came to, like, preference of time that I would spend hunting, I would spend less time turkey hunting and more time doing other things because of the fact that you can't get anything more than a turkey.

[2161] Yeah.

[2162] You stay there all day.

[2163] You shoot this turkey.

[2164] You got one turkey.

[2165] And that's great.

[2166] I mean, it'll be delicious.

[2167] I'm sure I haven't cooked it yet.

[2168] I've got it in the, oh, I told everybody I killed the turkey.

[2169] Or did you?

[2170] No, Renella had a picture of it.

[2171] He put it on his Instagram, so I'm fine.

[2172] but it's just a turkey you know we tasted some of it we ate some breasts it tasted like turkey it tasted like turkey it was good yeah but the breast tasted identical to turkey apparently the legs are like a little tougher and the one that i got was apparently a good one to eat because it was fairly young and those are like more tender called a jake it wasn't a tom a jake and um they just don't here's the deal you know there's not that much food there you know it's like it'll feed a family and then maybe you might have sandwiches the next day.

[2173] If you shoot a deer, like if you go out and you shoot a deer and you spend those nights sleeping in the tent in Montana and you're successful, you're going to come back with 50 or 60 pounds of meat.

[2174] Incredible.

[2175] I mean, you've got backstraps and loins and burger and you're making sausage out of it.

[2176] Just butchering it as a bitch.

[2177] We did it for hours.

[2178] We butchered it and we, you know, joked around.

[2179] We had a great time.

[2180] Or that moose?

[2181] See, if I shoot one of those, that moose, I'm going to be eating that moose forever.

[2182] One of the greatest pictures I've ever seen.

[2183] That picture and the Fador picture with kettlebells are the two pictures I use in my fantasy files.

[2184] Well, this is, listen, that picture is like what it means to eat animals.

[2185] That is a moose leg.

[2186] I don't know how much that thing weighed, but it was heavy.

[2187] 100 pounds?

[2188] Well, over 100 pounds.

[2189] Well, it was a 900 -pound moose.

[2190] Jesus Christ, which isn't even that big.

[2191] Look at the power.

[2192] My friend Ben, he shot one that was about 1 ,400 pounds.

[2193] What?

[2194] It was much bigger than mine.

[2195] It's huge antlers.

[2196] It was ridiculous.

[2197] But that moose is going to feed me for a year.

[2198] I need to come over and get some worth of meat.

[2199] Yeah, come on over.

[2200] Come on over, man. You have good cuts?

[2201] Yeah.

[2202] Well, let me show you how to cook it because it's not easy.

[2203] It's a different thing.

[2204] It's different than deer.

[2205] That's a gladiator animal that you're eating.

[2206] Yeah.

[2207] Like, first of all, when you eat the meat, I'm going to have you over, we'll come over the house, and you and I will sit down, we'll have a meal together.

[2208] I'll cook you a real moose steak.

[2209] You're going to eat it.

[2210] I'll bring the wine.

[2211] You're going to be like, holy shit, because it makes you, it's almost like a stimulant.

[2212] There's so much energy in that meat.

[2213] Listen, I've done that with deer meat.

[2214] I eat deer meat every day for 10 days.

[2215] I am telling you, and I'm not hokey, you get a rush.

[2216] Like I had an extra kick in my body.

[2217] It only makes sense if you look at their body.

[2218] Their flesh is so healthy, like their tissue is so rich and red and dark.

[2219] Yeah.

[2220] Like, you're dealing with an extremely healthy animal that is surviving against really hardcore predators.

[2221] I mean, it's running away from mount lions and wolves.

[2222] Like, this is existence.

[2223] Right.

[2224] For a moose, it's wolf packs.

[2225] You know, if you make it from the time you're a calf to the time you're a full -grown moose, good luck.

[2226] Did you ever show you that picture that I had?

[2227] We came across one that had been torn apart by wolves?

[2228] No. Yeah, when we were up there hunting, we came across a moose calf.

[2229] Wow.

[2230] When we were actually moose hunting.

[2231] And this thing had been torn apart.

[2232] So you were up in Wolf Country.

[2233] Oh, yeah.

[2234] Not only was that up in Wolf Country, I was up in a place where they don't even have a limit on how many wolves you can kill.

[2235] Because they're just so many.

[2236] They want you to kill wolves all day.

[2237] Damn!

[2238] They want you to, they set up bait.

[2239] You can do whatever you want.

[2240] Because they're such a motherfucker.

[2241] They're just...

[2242] They don't have a handle on them at all.

[2243] The guy that I lived up there, their state.

[2244] his place, brother, that lives up there, his neighbor lost a cow to a wolf.

[2245] Well, when we were in Napa Valley, we were in Napa Valley, the farmers I was talking to, they used to keep emos, emus, like which are miniature ostriches and lambs, and said, the mountain lions wreaked havoc.

[2246] The mountain lion would come in and pull those emus over the fence, the seven -foot fence, and they just find feathers on the top of the fence.

[2247] there goes our emu and lambs too just eat the shit out of a lamb well the place where you and i were staying up in uh that's where it was yeah the place where you and i were staying they they lost all their sheep to mountain line to mountain lines this farm that we were at i mean they had all these cows and shit and they think about if you have to survive the winter and a mountain lion and wolves you'll start hating mountain lions and wolves that's why they got hunted there's a totally different idea that you and i have about them like you know you look at a wolf you look at it's like a dog yeah they don't that's not a dog to them that's a dangerous Starvation.

[2248] It's a dangerous fucking thing.

[2249] I'm trying to find this guy.

[2250] When you're in the frontier and wolves took care of all your livestock, your kids couldn't eat.

[2251] Yeah, man. Well, it hasn't been, okay, I found the pictures.

[2252] It hasn't been that long ago that human beings really had to worry about wolves.

[2253] That's why those, the big bad wolf and all those different, you know, the bad guys.

[2254] Those legends go on in Europe forever.

[2255] That's what we found.

[2256] Oh, my God.

[2257] We had gotten there probably the night after.

[2258] the day after.

[2259] Still, it's a meat on it.

[2260] Wow.

[2261] Yeah, and what you didn't expect, what I didn't expect was the hair everywhere.

[2262] Oh, all that stuff that you see on the ground in that picture.

[2263] Jamie, you can pull it up, it's on my Instagram.

[2264] If you find a body of a moose calf, it's from four or five months ago.

[2265] The hair was all over the place.

[2266] Yeah, they would come back.

[2267] They probably were going to come back and finish off the rest.

[2268] Or they were just full and they were going to go somewhere else and get something else.

[2269] But they always know where it is.

[2270] they'll come back where was that that was in bc like northern bc yeah yeah dude when you meet people at the airport just just a random guy at the airport saw that i had a camo jacket on asked me if i was hunting talked to me about how much he likes to kill wolves he's like yeah yeah these city people they just don't understand you know they live down there in vancouver and they're making all the laws for up here and you know we're uh we're the ones who have to hear them howl and you know and wonder how many of them there are out there and they kill your livestock and they kill your dogs and the different perspective they're wolves like the movies like Little Red Riding Hood like look out little girl don't go off in the woods alone because there's wolves out there slick too oh they're so smart what's our next hunt are we gonna pig hunt?

[2271] We could peak hunt you know what I was thinking I was thinking we should go caribou hunting oh real cold Alaska that's too cold Carole.

[2272] No, it's not.

[2273] You're going in August.

[2274] Oh, I'll go then.

[2275] Yeah, they migrate in August.

[2276] All right.

[2277] What about before that?

[2278] I don't know.

[2279] We'll figure something out.

[2280] I want to kill a pig up in Sacramento.

[2281] Oh, you're violent.

[2282] What happened to you?

[2283] I want to eat a pig.

[2284] I need some pig.

[2285] I need some.

[2286] I love pork.

[2287] I still have some from the pig I shot.

[2288] You do?

[2289] Yeah, I'll cook some at the house.

[2290] I made a ham like maybe...

[2291] Do you still have all my hunting gear at your house?

[2292] I have your hunting gear.

[2293] I made a ham.

[2294] That's us.

[2295] We're turkey hunting.

[2296] Look at that.

[2297] Look at me. But I made this ham.

[2298] that I slow cooked on the smoker for like six, seven hours.

[2299] God damn.

[2300] I brined it for like four or five days.

[2301] Jesus.

[2302] You brine it.

[2303] Like you take ice, put it in a cooler.

[2304] You take this brine, mostly like salt and sugar and some spices.

[2305] And you dunk this ham in there and then surround everything with ice and put it in like a Yeti cooler.

[2306] And then I see, look at that.

[2307] Wow.

[2308] You're getting to be quite the meat cooker.

[2309] Yeah, I'm getting good at cooking meat.

[2310] Like I'm no chef.

[2311] I don't have skills.

[2312] I don't know what I'm doing.

[2313] But I do know how to smoke meat.

[2314] I knew how to grill steaks.

[2315] I cooked a cowboy cut last night.

[2316] Yeah, he's like a real chef.

[2317] Like, he could be like a real chef.

[2318] I tell people he made me beaver.

[2319] I said it's some of the best meat I've ever had.

[2320] Get out of here.

[2321] Those are some ribs that I cooked.

[2322] You're so funny that you post.

[2323] I follow you on Instagram, obviously.

[2324] You're always posting meat.

[2325] That's what I cooked last night.

[2326] Cowboy cut of ribby.

[2327] God damn, that looks good.

[2328] Son.

[2329] That's artwork to me. Is that moose?

[2330] No, that's ribby steak.

[2331] That's a regular steak.

[2332] I got a cowboy cut, a big thick.

[2333] It was probably like maybe three inches thick.

[2334] At least one, two, two and a half maybe.

[2335] It was a fat, thick one where I had to use a thermometer to cook it.

[2336] So I cook it on the outside.

[2337] You sear the outside on these things called grill grates.

[2338] I got to show you this smoker I got.

[2339] It's a yoder.

[2340] It uses direct heat as well as indirect heat.

[2341] You ever seen those things?

[2342] Those pellet smokers?

[2343] No. Well, this one, you can sear it on one side, and then you move it over to the other side, and then you just leave the temperature at what you want it.

[2344] For me, it was like 400 degrees.

[2345] So I drop it down to 400 degrees, and I have a thermometer in it.

[2346] It tells me when the temperature, the internal temperature, hits like 125.

[2347] And then I watch it carefully.

[2348] It gets to be about 130, and then pop that bitch out and let it sit for 10 minutes.

[2349] So you're roasting it?

[2350] You're starting it off grilling it.

[2351] Right.

[2352] You're starting it off grilling.

[2353] It's direct fire, like fire literally below these grates.

[2354] Yeah.

[2355] And you sear the shit out of it.

[2356] I don't mean the shit out of it.

[2357] You don't want to burn it.

[2358] But you want to sear it for, depending upon the thickness of the meat and the temperature that you're searing it, I don't do it for more than like two and a half minutes aside.

[2359] And I just really just like cook the outside.

[2360] You know, you're burning off any possible bacteria that's on the outside.

[2361] You get a nice crust and a good, like a delicious, like top area of it where it's like real crispy and you got like kosher salt and black pepper and a little bit of garlic powder I mix on there.

[2362] And I let it sit for like an hour.

[2363] before I put it on the grill.

[2364] It's an art form to it, man. Yeah, it is.

[2365] It is, because, like, I post pictures of it because I like what other people do, too.

[2366] Like, I like looking at people's Instagrams and shit that they're making.

[2367] My father -in -law can cook the greatest steaks.

[2368] He uses Hickory chips, and he smokes it that way on the grill.

[2369] He's just a master with a grill.

[2370] I try to replicate it.

[2371] I just can't do it, man. Yeah, there's two different styles of cooking steaks.

[2372] Like, some people like the Argentine style, which is like a slow grill, slow and low.

[2373] they'll cook like a steak slowly I like my meat to be a little raw though you know just like rare no but I mean they don't I mean they can certainly still cook it rare they just cook it a low temperature they don't like like American style grilling a steak you know you see that steak hit the you know thing and you you flip it or you move it a little then you flip it and then you push it off to the side and you always put the lid on it and you let it rest like you got to let it sit like you grill the top of it but unless it's a really thin steak that's not going to really get at the center where you want it.

[2374] It'll be really rare in the center.

[2375] So what you do is you put it, like, if you have a, like, either one of those webers or I have a commotto, you put a top lever to it.

[2376] So the heat is not really underneath it anymore, cooking it from the bottom.

[2377] It's cooking all around it.

[2378] And then you put it on the top, close the lid, and it'll drop down, like maybe 350 degrees or somewhere around there.

[2379] And then you cook it slowly for the next.

[2380] Like, depending upon the thickness of the steak, I don't usually like to go more than five minutes.

[2381] And then I pull it off of there.

[2382] So what I've done is I've seared the shit out of the outside with like really hot flames and a hot grill grate.

[2383] And everything is just like, it's really cooking the outside of it.

[2384] But then slow cooking it after that.

[2385] So you get that...

[2386] They do it all kinds of ways.

[2387] I had a Wagu steak in Utah where they put it in a plastic bag and they boil it in water.

[2388] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2389] That's a new thing.

[2390] Such a weird thing.

[2391] God damn, it was good.

[2392] That's a thing that...

[2393] Snake River Farms, ooh.

[2394] It's really popular right now.

[2395] They have new ones that they sell that you put, like you put a pot of water, you know, and then you stick this heater element in it, and it cooks it for you.

[2396] You just like sit it on the counter, but it's not the, sit it on your stove, but it's not the stove that's cooking it.

[2397] It's this device that you have in the water.

[2398] So it'll keep the water steady 135 degrees, which is like medium, medium rare.

[2399] Yeah.

[2400] So you would just do that, and it would cook it perfectly.

[2401] Like you couldn't fuck it up.

[2402] It couldn't overcook it.

[2403] And then you take it and they cook the outside of it with like.

[2404] a torch right like it take a butane torch and they crispy sear the outside of it and it's supposed to be amazing yeah i've had it it's incredible i don't like that waggoo shit though i don't like that i had i had waggoo sent me from snake river farms which apparently like i went to mastros and the guy goes well snake river farms is the best dude i don't know what they do there i don't know what they do with those cows i'm just telling you it's the best steak it's better than venison it's better than anything i've you might like different things than i like because i've i've tried that waggo.

[2405] I've given it a bunch of tries.

[2406] I've had Kobe.

[2407] Too fatty.

[2408] I like lean.

[2409] Something about this is just...

[2410] It's what I'd like about like that, that, um, what the fuck?

[2411] Try tip that we had.

[2412] I like lean too.

[2413] I'm more of a lean guy.

[2414] I don't like a lot of fat.

[2415] And this was, this was an exception.

[2416] Maybe there's just the preparation.

[2417] Maybe the chef, the chef just nailed it.

[2418] No, because they send me my own steaks and I just cooked it in fucking butter and I was just still like, the best steak I've ever had.

[2419] All right, well, I'll give it another shot.

[2420] I've had it before.

[2421] I didn't like it.

[2422] I felt like I was eating a patient.

[2423] I'll call.

[2424] I'll call them, the guy, I think I know the guy, and I'll have them send you some steaks.

[2425] I felt like I was eating a bedridden patient, like you'd say your cow, and just stuff fruit loops down.

[2426] It's a fat face, got a drunk every night, and then killed it.

[2427] I'm curious to see what you think of the Snake Rivers.

[2428] They have it to a size.

[2429] Apparently they are these, they are like, there's other places that do Wagyu, and then there's Snake River Farms.

[2430] Like everybody, everybody who's in the, they all say, well, that's the Cadillac, that's the Mercedes, that's a Ferrari of snakes.

[2431] Again, another Japanese invention, those slick bastards.

[2432] Rub them with beer, Don't they?

[2433] And they do all kinds of weird shit with the cow.

[2434] They don't let it move.

[2435] It's not very nice.

[2436] The whole culture, when you think about one small island, just think about what they did to revolutionize the car industry.

[2437] They made cars reliable.

[2438] With insane cooperation.

[2439] And I'll give you an example.

[2440] With the Toyota plant, this is back in the day.

[2441] This was 20 years ago.

[2442] In Toyota Company, they could start from when they started with the one piece that they were going to put the car together.

[2443] on the assembly line it took five minutes to assemble an entire Toyota How about you take 10 guys Just make sure the bolts are tightened down What the fuck man Don't rush my car I know five minutes Make sure there's bolts on Five minutes That seems like a little quick Maybe slow down I think so but they have it down to a science They always say that Japan Was so heavily influenced by one factor A lot of people in a very small area And it required a great deal of cooperation, but even more importantly, because of typhoons, their architecture was made from rice because you didn't want a wind to blow stone on you and die.

[2444] So the reason that the origami, like, you know, they have like sliding glass doors, I mean, paper, a lot of their houses were made of, the inside was made of paper.

[2445] Well, the problem with that is when you have walls that separate you that are made of paper, you can hear what goes on in the room next to you.

[2446] And if you have a couple that's fucking or whatever or crying or arguing, now you're privy to their business.

[2447] And what that did was they said, how are we going to run a society like this?

[2448] This is weird.

[2449] I mean, I know he's listening to me and then I'm listening to him.

[2450] And what a lot of social scientists talk about is this idea that the Japanese got super good at actively not hearing things they're not supposed to.

[2451] And it was like this sort of social contract where, first of all, you never mentioned that you heard anything.

[2452] Second of all, you didn't even gossip because you didn't hear it.

[2453] Hi.

[2454] Hi.

[2455] I'm not listening.

[2456] I'm not listening.

[2457] I am jacking off, but I'm not listening.

[2458] What a bizarre culture.

[2459] Yeah.

[2460] That they exhibited so many unique traits and characteristics.

[2461] And it had so many unique strengths.

[2462] You know, I mean, if you think about their contributions just to martial arts, alone for one island like that it's unprecedented you mean the other island i mean brazil is obviously an enormous country and there they had a massive influence on as well holland is a small country they had a massive influence on on on kickboxing and moitai and the economy of the world i mean holland zones a lot of a lot of a lot of they they're an economic powerhouse and responsible for setting up shop in africa and and and i believe in a place called New York and other places.

[2463] That's right.

[2464] If I can.

[2465] The Dutch.

[2466] Make it there.

[2467] I was just there.

[2468] I was just in...

[2469] I always confuse Denmark, Holland.

[2470] The Netherlands is the same as Holland.

[2471] Yeah, all of that area.

[2472] Yeah, you can fuck up.

[2473] You're a Dane?

[2474] You're from Denmark?

[2475] What does that mean?

[2476] Are you Den...

[2477] Are you Dutch?

[2478] Are you from the Dutch?

[2479] Are you from the Netherlands?

[2480] You're Dutch?

[2481] It's always confusing.

[2482] They also figured out weed and hookers a long time ago.

[2483] They're great.

[2484] They figured out a lot of shit.

[2485] They're like, let's just like...

[2486] How about you just get tested and do whatever you want to do?

[2487] The only issue with the Japanese is that their challenge has always been innovation.

[2488] Like they're really good at mimicry and making things better.

[2489] But as far as – and the reason for that is because of the way their society is structured.

[2490] So that if you are someone who comes up with a better way to do something than your boss, your boss would lose face.

[2491] And so that's why a lot of things stayed rather stagnant.

[2492] Even though they were good, it was very hard for them to sort of keep up with the – so not as much innovation comes out of Japan.

[2493] They don't really have a Silicon Valley the way we do.

[2494] And that's an interesting way of describing it.

[2495] If you have a boss and you go out to drink, the boss drinks a higher caliber whiskey than you do.

[2496] Really?

[2497] What a dick.

[2498] So he'll drink cutty sark and you'll drink something on the lower.

[2499] Boss is a shithead.

[2500] Give up the good booze, son.

[2501] Listen, man. Come on, bro.

[2502] You make more money.

[2503] Give up the good booze.

[2504] Come on.

[2505] We work together.

[2506] Let's be friends here.

[2507] Authority.

[2508] And also very chauvinistic.

[2509] but they did some amazing improvements on existing things like that's what their unique characteristic their unique traits especially when it comes to automobiles electronics like the NSX it forced Ferrari and Porsche to change the way they were making cars like they came out with this fucking NSX I want to say like 91 or 92 was the first NSX and it was basically like a super evolved sports car for the the time, like, had these ridiculous things that they had built into it, like baffles in the fuel lines to make sure that the weight always stayed completely central.

[2510] Like, they wanted to have, like, a pure 50 -50 weight balance, so it's a mid -engine car, so the engine is behind the passenger seat.

[2511] All these unique innovations to the suspension geometry and the way it handled was just like, like it was on rails, man. And it was not even a high horsepower car.

[2512] It was like two hundred and seventy -five i think initially maybe two two ninety towards the end of its production line it wasn't like that speedy it was just bulletproof it was all aluminum no one had ever done that before no one had ever made an all aluminum sports car i remember getting in that car with you when you first got it's amazing and you were just like you were telling me about it the engineering is unprecedented and they lost money on everyone they sold wow they didn't make money on that car why did it make a flagship car just to show you like not only were we going to going to make something that's better than any of your shit.

[2513] It's not going to break down, ever.

[2514] It looks awesome.

[2515] And we're going to lose money selling it.

[2516] Fuck you.

[2517] Damn.

[2518] Just just shut your, shut your mouth.

[2519] Damn.

[2520] And they kind of do that with, the Nissan does that now with this thing called the GTR.

[2521] They have this car, the GTR.

[2522] It's actually more expensive now than it used to be for a while.

[2523] It's like they're barely breaking even on it.

[2524] But I think now they realize it has such a demand that it's, you can kind of charge more money.

[2525] And they've continued to innovate.

[2526] And they've they continue to it's like a samurai sword they built the samurai sword and i want to say the nsx came out like 2007 or something like that i might be off but from that time they've just made a better version every year every year every year every year that's what it looks like now wow 2015 how much that cost that's a hundred and something thousand but it is a fucking spaceship really i rented one of those when i was in austin at um budget no um hurts hurts hurts rents run car will let you run a fucking NSX.

[2527] It's hilarious.

[2528] So I rent it in an NSX and me and the Hinchcliff machine, we're fucking tooling around.

[2529] Just sipping around.

[2530] Dude, that thing is the fastest fucking thing I've ever driven.

[2531] It doesn't look like it either.

[2532] That's what I like about it.

[2533] It's such a, you know, it's kind of an understated sports car.

[2534] That's not a GTR.

[2535] What is that?

[2536] It's got different taillights.

[2537] Unless it's got, no, I think it's just got unique taillights.

[2538] Is that a real one?

[2539] It might be modified.

[2540] That might be clear.

[2541] Maybe.

[2542] The real tail lights are, go back to the previous image that you had.

[2543] That's the real taillights.

[2544] They're really cool looking.

[2545] It's a spaceship, man. The way it handles, it's all like...

[2546] The thing that people don't like about it, the people that don't like it.

[2547] Most people love it.

[2548] But the thing that people are a little perturbed about it, look at that.

[2549] That's the...

[2550] Okay, so that's the Nissan.

[2551] I kept thinking we were looking in Acura.

[2552] No, there's a new Accura NSX is coming out as well.

[2553] But it probably won't be...

[2554] Go back to that image, that rear -end image that you're just showing.

[2555] Look at that fucking thing.

[2556] That might as well be in Star Wars.

[2557] Yeah.

[2558] Look at the fucking the way it's built.

[2559] And all of that is aerodynamic.

[2560] Like all that shit you see around the back end all that shit around the pipes That's all designed for downforce extreme amounts of down force Downforce is super important to me Well that's why it has that tail in the back of it.

[2561] That's all about keeping the ass end down Because this thing has such fucking insane power that sometimes they can catch flight Like there's one of the Nürbergring That's why you have that goddamn The wing yes yes but still because of that sometimes they get back end heavy which means the front end comes on the ground and they go flying through the air.

[2562] What?

[2563] Yeah, it happened recently at the Nureberg ring.

[2564] The Nürbergring, look up this, GTR crash at Nürberg ring.

[2565] It's a crazy thing to watch because you realize this is not just a crash.

[2566] This is a guy that has no control of his car because the car's wheels aren't touching the ground.

[2567] It's flying.

[2568] It's crash, not grass.

[2569] Okay, go to videos.

[2570] That's it right there.

[2571] Bam, watch this shit.

[2572] Oh, you motherfucker.

[2573] Watch this shit.

[2574] This hurts my like my anticipation hurts my like adrenal glands look at this Whoa whoa whoa whoa yeah watch that again.

[2575] He's going around the corner That's what kiss someone he died man So he died in this yes they did got hit by the car watch yeah got hit by the car look at this He's coming over the hill and it just catches flight like he's he's scraping along the back bumper Like just skipping through the air Fucking crazy the front end came so far off the ground that the car literally was bumper to the ground like look at that the bumpers on the ground to do it went upside down even how fast is he the wheel actually caught it from going upside down it goes back forward again and it flips oh he's going ridiculously fast but that's not what the problem was the problem was he lost control I mean it's not about going fast it's about when do you go fast and when do you slow down and you got to know like a circuit like the Nurberg ring the Nurberg ring is the most famous of all circuits when it comes to testing a car's lap time.

[2576] Like if you can get a really fast lap time at the Nureberg ring, it's worth millions of dollars because that car will be the new king of the Nureberg ring.

[2577] The GCR was like, I think, one of the best production cars in terms of lap times.

[2578] The fastest for the longest time was a Corvette, ZR1.

[2579] This is fucking insane, 650 horsepower Corvette, but now the new Corvette Z -O -6 is even faster than that.

[2580] And every year, everyone's trying to get a faster lap time on that track.

[2581] But, there's a problem with that track.

[2582] That track sort of mimics the real world in a sense that it's not like a flat line.

[2583] It's not like a flat circle, like a NASCAR thing.

[2584] But there's ups and downs and twists and turns.

[2585] I mean, you're changing levels.

[2586] You're going up and down.

[2587] It's what you get from a real, it's a real test of a car's ability in the real world.

[2588] So that is particularly disturbing because that guy's coming off that hill like that with the kind of power that a real GTR that you could buy in a store has.

[2589] And he's going flying through the air.

[2590] So you have to stop and think.

[2591] Look how beautiful that is.

[2592] My God.

[2593] Is that where the crash took place?

[2594] That's the Nürbergring.

[2595] Oh my God.

[2596] Look how beautiful it is.

[2597] Around it.

[2598] It's amazing.

[2599] Two things I've never understand when people stand too close to car races like that with no protection.

[2600] And guys who are watching golf when the guy tees off and they're literally right in the line of fire.

[2601] Yeah, that's a good point.

[2602] This especially though, right?

[2603] Damn.

[2604] Look how beautiful that is, man. You're flying around next to this unbelievable countryside.

[2605] It's so gorgeous.

[2606] There are parts of Germany and parts of Switzerland and parts of France that are just like that, that blow your mind.

[2607] Then you go into these little towns, and they've been there for a thousand years.

[2608] The issue with this racetrack, though, apparently is that it gets a lot of inclement weather.

[2609] Like you'll watch a bunch of laps, they'll do them what's raining out and shit.

[2610] Like in the UK, you know, like Top Gear, it's one of the hilarious things about Top Gear is that so often they're testing cars and it's raining.

[2611] Like Chris Harris, who's got.

[2612] I've had of the podcast before.

[2613] It's like one of my favorite automotive journalists.

[2614] So many times he's driving a car and it's raining out.

[2615] Really?

[2616] And he's testing the UK.

[2617] Yeah, he's in the UK.

[2618] It rains all the fucking time.

[2619] Why do you think, and maybe this is, maybe not so, but it's race car driving more popular in Europe than it is in the United States?

[2620] I would say so, yeah.

[2621] Like Formula One, they're just like dumb racing.

[2622] Black is going left again.

[2623] He's going left.

[2624] Swapping.

[2625] They're swapping paint.

[2626] This is crazy.

[2627] Why does he have a southern accent?

[2628] Because that's most of the other.

[2629] What if I did it like...

[2630] Contradicting yourself.

[2631] What if I...

[2632] What accent will be sophisticated?

[2633] Why can't he speak this way?

[2634] Oh, it looks like they're swapping paint at the moment.

[2635] They're going left.

[2636] I'm in love with this Chevron car.

[2637] This gaining ground on him, I tell you, man. It's unbelievable.

[2638] The way he continues to turn left baffles the mind.

[2639] It's an outrage.

[2640] He's doing irreparable damage to his reputation and to his chassis.

[2641] How can he do it with such accuracy?

[2642] No. The art form.

[2643] Outrageous.

[2644] Now they're fighting.

[2645] There's a weird culture.

[2646] the english man they they they're also their regalness and their the way they have like set up all these different sort of patterns that they follow yeah it's all about dress and behavior self -control do you play snooker a man plays schnuka a hooligan will be playing eight ball at the bar but a gentleman prefers snooka knowing your place knowing your place discipline the British were always very disciplined about like protocol what's to be done what's not to be done made good soldiers oh until they figured out Americans figured out just shoot at that white stripe that they keep in the middle of their chest that was a long time ago dumbasses that shit didn't even going to work but it's all the same thing yeah people they're folly they need to learn well they were wearing wigs and they had wool coats on in the in the heat it sucked what was that about like what was the wig thing about like the powdered wigs like why did they have powdered wigs there There was always a form of, even the French, up until World War I, wore, you know, lots of, like, very, like, feathers and very brightly colored clothing.

[2647] Peacocks.

[2648] Yeah.

[2649] As a soldier, you were, first of all, you had a uniform, and our uniform is going to be much more grandiose.

[2650] We have more money than you people do.

[2651] We're of higher birth.

[2652] So our soldiers are decorated with the honor that is bestowed on the greatest army there is.

[2653] We're a sparkling jewel.

[2654] All of that.

[2655] Our sabres are polished.

[2656] shiny, shiny and bright colors.

[2657] Think about how birds, it's the same thing.

[2658] Until Vietnam, those motherfuckers started hiding in holes in the ground and shooting at us.

[2659] And the Brits always just were khaki.

[2660] The Brits were just fucking down -home cacky motherfuckers.

[2661] They were just like, yeah, you guys wear all your stuff, we're going to wear.

[2662] We're guys who figured out hunting, like, Camo for hunting.

[2663] Like, who was the first person to invent camo?

[2664] I think it goes back to millennia.

[2665] I think people fuck yeah.

[2666] Like leaves and shit, right?

[2667] Yes, they were covering themselves in leaves.

[2668] waiting in the cold for dinner.

[2669] Mm, fuck.

[2670] Yeah.

[2671] They made it.

[2672] You didn't...

[2673] It's true.

[2674] You didn't get to this point.

[2675] Trust me. Trust me. You with your fucking ironic glasses on that don't even have a real lens.

[2676] People wear, like, clear glass.

[2677] Fashion has always been another thing that we...

[2678] Fashion has always been there.

[2679] People's appearance.

[2680] I mean, you know, if you look at indigenous cultures that have had very little contact, they're still putting bones to their nose.

[2681] and wearing feathers and peacocking men and women.

[2682] But the eyeglass one is one of the weirdest ones.

[2683] Well, a friend of mine's mother, he couldn't get a job.

[2684] It wasn't a friend of mine.

[2685] It's a friend of mine told me the story about this kid.

[2686] He's a Puerto Rican, and he couldn't get a job.

[2687] And his mother said, he was a great student.

[2688] He's a great guy just couldn't get a job.

[2689] He was trying to work on Wall Street.

[2690] His mother went out and bought him a pair of glasses.

[2691] Wow.

[2692] Just clear glasses.

[2693] And he got every job he went in for.

[2694] He had glasses on and they went, this guy must read.

[2695] And he got every fucking job.

[2696] No, his mother was genius.

[2697] He said, I'm going to put some glasses on you.

[2698] Watch this.

[2699] It's also the only, like, handicapped that is sexually arousing.

[2700] 100%.

[2701] Like men like a secretary -looking chick with glasses on it.

[2702] Women like men with glasses.

[2703] Really, do that?

[2704] Oh, yeah.

[2705] Tell me about it.

[2706] What do you do?

[2707] You put glasses off?

[2708] I had to use.

[2709] I have to use my reading glasses sometimes, which I resist all the time.

[2710] And my wife went, that's really sexy.

[2711] Oh, she likes old dudes.

[2712] She likes gray in my beard.

[2713] She likes guys.

[2714] She likes guys.

[2715] She loves old men.

[2716] She loves him wrinkly.

[2717] Wrinkles.

[2718] We're almost out of time.

[2719] I understand that you're going to be in Sacramento doing your stand -up comedy this weekend.

[2720] Brian, tell us about it and what can we expect at the punchline?

[2721] I'm glad you asked, Joe, I'm going to be at the Sacramento punchline tearing it up this Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and I am under the impression.

[2722] I've been talking to T .J. Dillishaw and your eye favor, and there's a chance they might come out and see me because they're friends of mine, and I couldn't be more excited about that.

[2723] Yes, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Joe, and I want to say one more thing.

[2724] What?

[2725] You know, I've got a podcast called The Fighter and the Kid.

[2726] that it gets 1 .5 million downloads a month.

[2727] Is that true?

[2728] That's the rumor, and the rumor's true.

[2729] Wow.

[2730] More importantly, I'm going to be having, there was a documentary called Lady Valor, and I'm going to be having the Navy Seal who became a woman, Kristen Beck, on our podcast, and I am very excited.

[2731] That is, we're going to record it soon.

[2732] Keep the camera on him, Jamie.

[2733] This is a surprise.

[2734] That's right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to record it soon.

[2735] She's just taking the shirt off, and you've got a body.

[2736] You look like a naked, Silverback.

[2737] This is a surprise, dude.

[2738] Oh, sorry, buddy.

[2739] Oh, I love it.

[2740] Okay, here we got the surprise coming, you guys.

[2741] Christmas comes early.

[2742] Ladies and gentlemen, our biggest promoter.

[2743] You're looking at not just a shirt, but a cultural phenomenon.

[2744] This shirt, this Master Kim's 1984 Taekwondo National Champion shirt from the fighter and the kid, they sold 800 of them in about six minutes.

[2745] That's right, ladies and gentlemen.

[2746] They flew off the shelves.

[2747] Can't keep them in stock.

[2748] They bought new ones.

[2749] They were gone by the end of the day.

[2750] There it is.

[2751] Twice restocked shirt this motherfucker right here a cultural phenomenon that is the fighter and the kid now what does that feel we're running out of time but that's got to be trippy like to know that you guys like you guys are like that show is taken off it really is it's a good fucking podcast i appreciate it and a lot of it has to do with your support and we just try to keep it inspiring and funny and uh you know it's it's one of those things i think it's chemistry i i'm just doing it and showing up and it's just uh you never expect it to be you don't you're not managing success i just show up and do it but i think brennan and i have a great chemistry.

[2752] It's very unusual.

[2753] He's hilarious.

[2754] He pushes me. Yeah.

[2755] It's a very, very funny chemistry.

[2756] We crack each other up.

[2757] Yeah.

[2758] And we try to stay as authentic as we can.

[2759] That's, that's rare and both really good dudes, you know, and that comes through in the show.

[2760] Like, I know a lot of people that, like, on the underground, especially, like, that guy won me over.

[2761] Fucker.

[2762] Like, they listen to the fighter in the kid and like, get used to him.

[2763] I'm telling you, like, I was telling, I've been telling Dana White this forever.

[2764] I'm like, the guy's a great guy.

[2765] Yeah.

[2766] Like, you know, like, Brendan doesn't take himself seriously.

[2767] He's very aware.

[2768] of his faults and he's always working on them.

[2769] He's a guy who constantly grows.

[2770] He's so silly too.

[2771] He's so silly.

[2772] Silly.

[2773] He says hilarious shit.

[2774] Did you see the Instagram I posted of him wearing that hat?

[2775] Yes, the sailor hat?

[2776] I was like, I can't be friends with you.

[2777] He kept going, all hands on dick.

[2778] All hands on dick, everybody.

[2779] Like, we don't even know that people were playing volleyball with him.

[2780] He's got his hands on his knees, this giant UFC fighter going, all hands on dick.

[2781] That's always fun for everybody else involved.

[2782] He's a silly goose.

[2783] On the outside, trying to figure out what's happening.

[2784] Yeah.

[2785] Look at him.

[2786] Making his macho face.

[2787] With his cauliflower ear.

[2788] Yeah.

[2789] He's so silly.

[2790] Yeah.

[2791] He's a funny dude.

[2792] Fighter and the Kid, it's available on iTunes.

[2793] It's hilarious podcast.

[2794] It really is fun.

[2795] And you guys get some great guests.

[2796] And Lady Valor, that's going to be very interesting.

[2797] I want to talk to her.

[2798] I want to have her on.

[2799] That's an insane story.

[2800] And I'll ask better questions than you.

[2801] So what I'll do is I'll just watch you guys fuck it up first.

[2802] I'll come in.

[2803] I've been trying to think I went to ask her.

[2804] I'm so excited, man. Oh, yeah.

[2805] We went turkey hunting.

[2806] Yeah.

[2807] This podcast is supposed to be about that.

[2808] I know.

[2809] We missed it.

[2810] We also did a podcast last week, folks.

[2811] If you want to get it, it's available on iTunes.

[2812] It's just in the car with an iPhone.

[2813] Just Brian and I drive and having fun talking shit for like two hours or something.

[2814] Talking important shit.

[2815] The Fighter and the Kid podcast, the Punchline in Sacramento this weekend.

[2816] Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Friday, Saturday?

[2817] Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

[2818] A fucking phenomenal club.

[2819] If you live up there and you haven't been there, it's an iconic club.

[2820] It's one of the best setup.

[2821] clubs in the country.

[2822] And this weekend, Brian, Brian, Callin, Brian Callin with a Y, B -R -Y -A -N -Callin on Twitter.

[2823] Much love.

[2824] Sacramento, Sacramento.

[2825] You fuckers.

[2826] See you soon.

[2827] Punchline Sack.

[2828] Punchline, Sacramento.

[2829] All right, that's it.

[2830] I'm at the Codd Theater, May 22nd with Tom Segura and Tony Hinchcliffe, the Cot Theater at the MGM in Vegas.

[2831] That's all I got coming up.

[2832] See you.

[2833] Oh, this weekend in Montreal, but it's sold out.

[2834] All right.

[2835] Much love, you fuckers.

[2836] See you soon.