#2009 - Duncan Trussell

[0] Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] Let's go.

[4] What's happening?

[5] Hello, doctor.

[6] Hello, doctor.

[7] Hello.

[8] I feel good to be in a lab coat.

[9] It feels like my opinion means more.

[10] Dude, it does.

[11] I mean, this is freaking incredible.

[12] You don't realize the power in costumes until you got a lab coat on.

[13] Like, if we were walking around a CV.

[14] Yes.

[15] People would ask us for advice.

[16] They would probably be like, is this the right spray for me?

[17] Isn't it amazing?

[18] It's amazing.

[19] Like, what is the purpose of a lab coat?

[20] Like, why this particular coat?

[21] What does this, does this provide any protection?

[22] Is it good for the act?

[23] You want monkey blood on your good shirt?

[24] You got to, like, wear the lab coat because, like, you get blood.

[25] Right.

[26] In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when many scientific breakthroughs happened, the white lab coat started to symbolize cleanliness and scientific rigor.

[27] Not only it made doctors and scientists easily distinguishable, but it also made spotting any contamination easier.

[28] That makes sense.

[29] Was that a problem back then mixing up your doctor with your scientist?

[30] Is that a real problem?

[31] Was that what they were saying?

[32] It says it makes doctors and scientists more easily distanced.

[33] Oh, together.

[34] Yeah.

[35] They're both wearing that.

[36] It's not like costumes, like doctor costumes, scientists.

[37] Right.

[38] You go to a doctor.

[39] doctor help me i'm not that kind of doctor i'm a phd i study nuclear atoms i like that that acknowledges that this is a kind of uh ceremonial outfit it's a priest's robe because it's like symbolic more than practical for some people well there's a bunch of those right like the judge's robe oh my god how weird is that because if you had a guy who's dressed like in a golf shirt with like shorts on Yeah, and a pair of Nike's.

[40] And he's, like, ruin judgment on things.

[41] He'd be like, fuck that guy.

[42] Who's that guy?

[43] Yeah.

[44] He's a regular guy.

[45] Like a tank top.

[46] Yeah.

[47] A dude in a tank top simends his into life.

[48] A dude is dressed like Joe Dirt.

[49] Also, the hammer.

[50] Yeah.

[51] They bang the hammer to, like, signify that justice has been served.

[52] What a weird trick.

[53] That is a weird.

[54] I mean, this is, when you realize how.

[55] all of society has got occult aspects to it like those are people in ceremonial clothes yeah banging a ceremonial hammer if not a cult definitely cult well yeah yeah yeah yeah what is the what's the what's the root of cult and occult like what is the the the connection to those those two words the devil satan satan there's uh There's got to be some kind of connection, right?

[56] Doesn't it?

[57] The fascinating thing about cults is that when they get to a certain size, we stop calling them cults.

[58] Yeah.

[59] Like, they're really successful.

[60] Well, the idea is that there's no such thing as a successful cult, and that's really just not true.

[61] Okay, the words cult and a cult are popular terms that should not be confused as one or other.

[62] So what are the differences between them?

[63] The term cult typically is used by the secular media to describe religious or semi -religious groups whose members are controlled in almost every single respect by a single individual some good examples are Hari Christians and Scientologists but that's not like a single individual I don't think that's a good definition you know what I'm saying by a single individual that's not it's a group that's the classic I mean that Right but they're saying Scientology Scientology clearly has an organization I mean there's one guy that's the head of Scientology but they have like a whole they're very it's a very complex organization very complex oh well i mean i think the idea is that the so the the main cult leader generally has like the doctrine deputies around them okay you know he has his own sort of close inner circle right in that case is true right the bigger it gets then the deputies have deputies or whatever you want to call it and then and that's how you get a big functional cult right right you know and and i think probably i mean it it would be safe to say that a successful cult passes that barrier between what the fuck you guys believe that shit to what the fuck you don't believe that shit like your cult doctrine becomes the like language of truth yeah and then you've succeeded like then your colt went that's like the the you're one in a hundred million maybe most cults just fail i imagine yeah but that seems to be just a natural pattern for for human thinking and behaving that we for whatever reason like naturally fall into group think oh yeah and if we're led by a very strong charismatic person that we think is exceptional we'll accept it yeah right like you and i you know we've talked about this i see the function in that like if you like if you're in a situation that you don't know how to handle you want the person who's the best to handle the situation to say here's what we do yeah and then that's great then that's when it works right but it should only be it should be situational right it shouldn't be like you know everything right that's where it turns into a cult well that's like that what is that term that some people that are really smart uh tend to believe they're really smart at other things because they're really smart at one thing they'll get a distort it's a very common term i know what you're saying it's at the tip of my time it's a distortion but it's a thing that happens to you when you're really good at one thing where you think you're just exceptional period right and you think you know more about me maybe you know like there's scientists that are really terrible about health they're probably brilliant when it comes to certain aspects of whatever it is they study string theory yeah sure but they're their knowledge of health their knowledge of how to work their own like I've talked to scientists like I don't think vitamins are important like what the fuck are you saying Dining Kruger thank you the smart it It says, the smarter you feel, the dumber you are.

[64] The dumb people think they are smart, and the smart people think they're dumb.

[65] If you're like most people, you're likely to be very good at something.

[66] And you openly admit you're less competent at something else.

[67] However, we've all met someone in our work and life who always overestimates their knowledge or ability of a certain topic or skill.

[68] Where some people are obviously incompetent in a particular subject, you're like confidently insist.

[69] They know everything.

[70] That's when you start to wonder, how on earth could this person be that, well, stupid?

[71] In fact, this is not uncommon.

[72] Even William Shakespeare mentioned it 400 plus years ago.

[73] The fool thinks himself to be wise, while a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

[74] Today, this phenomenon is known as cognitive bias of illusinary superiority.

[75] So, but it does have something to do with you being good at something and being really stupid at other things because you think you're What a great insult to tell someone that they have Dunning Cougar.

[76] Yeah, that is a great way to call someone dumb.

[77] Yeah, well, it's interesting because that's what this is the problem with the term dumb.

[78] Really what it is is what are you focusing on?

[79] Because there's very intelligent people that didn't focus on communication.

[80] They didn't focus on language.

[81] They didn't focus on proper grammar or how to structure a good sentence.

[82] They focused on a particular act, whether it's swimming or whether it's chess or whether they focused on whether it's playing guitar, playing pool.

[83] I've met brilliant people playing pool.

[84] Right.

[85] I think I've told you about my friend Johnny who could do complex math in his head.

[86] Yeah.

[87] I mean, not complex, but math in his head.

[88] So what you would do, one guy would have a calculator, and we would do this at the pool hall.

[89] and then we would go 300 divided by 5 minus 4 plus 16 times 2 and he would bang he would just rattle it out we would go what the fuck man yeah what it what the fuck and he was homeless did he say how he did the trick no he just knew how to do it holy he could just count dude he was just insanely smart but that implies like that's there was a kid uh and my neighbor who could do that and it was the like like that's a kid uh and my neighbor who could do that and it was Like, he was annoyed because once you are known as being able to do that, that's all people do.

[90] They don't want to talk to you.

[91] They just want to get you to solve complex math and then go like, holy fuck.

[92] But, like, it makes me think that, like, they're perceiving reality in a completely different way.

[93] They must be.

[94] They must be.

[95] They have to be.

[96] They must be.

[97] And this guy, Johnny, he had a lot of mental health problems, like, serious mental health problems and drug problems.

[98] but he was one of the most brilliant people I've ever met and socially brilliant he's a pool hustler but he's very socially brilliant like he knew when people were full of shit he knew when people's egos were flaring up he knew like and he loved comedy it was like his favorite thing and so I met him at the pool hall and I took him to see comedy and I took him to one of my shows and he fucking loved and he's like oh I love when they call people out on their bullshit Like, it was like, he was like a social scientist.

[99] Yeah.

[100] But also could play all these different musical instruments.

[101] Homeless.

[102] Homeless.

[103] I met a kid who was 16 years old, and he was a chess wizard who, like, wanted to hang out with the bad boys.

[104] It was really interesting because he was like this super nerd that all of a sudden he was hanging out with these guys who were smoking and gambling.

[105] And he was 16 in this, like, really rough pool hall.

[106] And he would sit down with this guy who just got out of jail.

[107] And this guy had just got out of jail.

[108] and in jail learned how to play chess in his head.

[109] So they don't have a board.

[110] So because they don't have a board, they have to call out the numbers in their head.

[111] So I'm watching this recently released prisoner and a 16 -year -old super nerd play chess in their head.

[112] And they're calling it out.

[113] And I'm sitting there like I'm watching them do magic.

[114] What?

[115] Yeah.

[116] So like C to 4 -7.

[117] Yep, yep, yep.

[118] And they're keeping track of the whole table in their head.

[119] They just see it in their head.

[120] And there was no arguments, by the way.

[121] it's just you know you hear about you know I think we talked about the mothership the other night but you you hear about people who perceive numbers as colors or something or as in and it's like their brain has made a different connection because because if you think about um what our eyes do with photons that's insane that instantaneously it forms time space around you with like zero effort like it's interpreting all this data color wavelengths all that shit it's crazy yeah grapheme color scinthia so i want to show you people playing chess in their head because it's crazy to watch but what i was saying there was no arguments like they never said no no no i had this that there there was none of that right they knew exactly they both knew exactly where everything was and they were like check check they're seeing the table in that yeah clearly it's like they're going to visual it's like they're just seeing it and so and they're keeping track of all their pieces and all their opponent's pieces yeah yeah man i mean that's wild watch them do it it's it's really interesting to see do you add that it's called blindfolded chess okay it's a skill apparently there's video i'm watching it oh it's got to be a skill there's videos of people teaching you how to do it oh wow um but i'm trying to this is just like people talking about it i'm just trying to find a Like a game, I guess.

[122] It's not showing two people, though.

[123] It's kind of hard to watch.

[124] Is there one that says how two people playing blindfolded chess?

[125] I figured something would pop up by playing chess in head.

[126] Is that it, mate?

[127] No. Yeah.

[128] Freemian chess is head -to -head -to -head mental combat.

[129] That's just a different kind of chess.

[130] See, that's what I thought this was going to be.

[131] This is something else.

[132] What do they call it blindfolded chess?

[133] How about just type in two people playing blindfolded chest?

[134] chess there it is blindfolded chess it's just one guy here's a guy playing 48 games blindfolded Jesus Christ what while he's riding an exercise bike oh my god that's so insane same time oh my god that is so insane what is there a video 80 % win rate 80 % can you Can you imagine getting beaten that chest?

[135] I feel so bad.

[136] He says he developed a technique of a memory palace.

[137] Oh, my God.

[138] That is used by memory competitors, usually to remember things like numbers or the order of playing cards.

[139] He said each game is like a room in a palace.

[140] Yeah.

[141] It's all there.

[142] He explained to chess .com.

[143] I walk into my kitchen to see that stack of bananas.

[144] The abstract images are an analog for specific moves.

[145] so presumably he now knows a lot of different fruits.

[146] Wow.

[147] That is so insane.

[148] That memory palace shit is really interesting because you're like you're connecting your memory to the visual.

[149] Yeah.

[150] So I can go back to the beginning and you can go through each.

[151] I wonder if that, I mean, this is essentially a short -term memory thing you're relying upon.

[152] I wonder if that, I wonder if that does anything for your long -term.

[153] a memory too.

[154] I wonder if they do say that chess is like one of the very best games for just just your cognitive function.

[155] Makes sense.

[156] It's super complex.

[157] I mean, think of it's basically like running with your brain.

[158] Did you ever get into it?

[159] No. It's scared.

[160] It's pretty, I only got into it because I had a cool video game where the chess pieces could fight.

[161] And so that made me like get interested in like the, most surface level i mean i was horrible but you know the opening moves and how each opening there's statistically i think the right opening second move to do against the opening move and then you you all these combos and shit that you have to memorize it's so and then you you have to think so many moves ahead so based on all the possible things they might do yeah producing all these parallel chess timelines and you're trying to pick the one that's like the one you win in chest falls into that whole golf thing with me i'm sure i'd love it but i don't want to do that i don't i don't have any time for anything new like that i already have a problem with pool you know i i fucking want to play it all the time yeah well i mean it's a lot easier to for me to like level up in diablo four then go to the gym right right infinitely easier and my brain does not produce the same level of pleasure leaving the gym but what is it like 30 % of that and I think sometimes if you are particularly weak you'll just settle for that you're like yeah you know what that's fine I'll enjoy that and then it just goes on and on you know you need to have undisciplined people on your show sometimes because I'm always struggling with it you know what I mean and you're like discipline you but I'm I am like it's an ask inspiration.

[162] And so I'll get going to the gym.

[163] I'll start working out.

[164] I'll feel better than I've ever felt my life.

[165] You know what got me to the gym by the way?

[166] I started going.

[167] The last podcast, you described how you feel not working out.

[168] And I'm like, that's the last two years of my life.

[169] And then, you know, so I'm like, fuck, I got to do this.

[170] And like, you know, walking out, it's simultaneously wonderful and kind of sad.

[171] because you walk out and you're like, I feel so good.

[172] Like, this is all I, I just had to do this.

[173] Yeah.

[174] It wasn't painful.

[175] It's fun.

[176] Yeah.

[177] And now I feel great.

[178] And you're like, fuck, man, two years.

[179] Two years I went off of it.

[180] That's scary.

[181] You know what I mean?

[182] When you're oscillating between those two modes, you know, and you don't want to get stuck in the devil's mode.

[183] But you know it's a possibility.

[184] You know, you somehow have glued yourself to this one.

[185] Like, you don't seem to really, like, fall off, you know.

[186] Did you at first?

[187] No. It's necessary for me. And it's necessary for me for mental health.

[188] And also, I'm not, I don't want my body to fail.

[189] Like, I've seen people my age that don't exercise.

[190] And their shoulders don't work and their knees are fucked and they're always tired.

[191] And yeah, like that's not a good way to go through life if you want to enjoy life.

[192] You want to have as much energy as possible and the best way to have as much energy as possible is to be really fit be really fit and healthy and eat good foods and take a lot of vitamins take supplements take you know eat healthy food try to stay the fuck away from process garbage don't drink too much right don't don't do anything bad for your health because your your your energy depends upon this physical form and it's literally.

[193] literally made out of what you put in it.

[194] It's literally made out of that, both with effort and with food.

[195] Right.

[196] And with sleep.

[197] Yeah.

[198] The effort that you take to sleep.

[199] Right.

[200] And then also the effort you take to have a stress -free environment, you know, the effort that you take to put out as little bullshit as you can and to, like, be nice to people as often as you can and just sort of keep harmonious, fun people around you.

[201] you you feel better yeah you know like when if i'm going through something like some friends of minds are squabbling and i have to like get in between them and have conversations i fucking hate it yeah i hate it worse i hate when people's feelings are heard i hate when people are mad at other people i fucking hate it and i think a lot of times it can be avoided but if you could if you're not avoiding it and you're just jumping it at all the time Yeah.

[202] Your stress levels are so high.

[203] Your comfort levels are so low.

[204] You're always going to be feeling like shit.

[205] And there's people that get caught up in a cycle of that.

[206] They're always calling people out and getting called out and an insult in trying to find the deepest burn.

[207] And keep that shit out of your life, too.

[208] Keep that shit out of your life.

[209] But don't not call things out when something's atrocious.

[210] Right.

[211] But just the less bullshit you have in your life, whether it's bullshit that you have to deal with because you didn't exercise where your body's breaking down.

[212] It's like car maintenance.

[213] Like if you just don't ever change your oil, you could go a long time.

[214] I dated this girl once when I was 22.

[215] And she told me she had never changed the oil in her car.

[216] I go, how long have you had this car?

[217] She started the car.

[218] It was like, literal black smoke was coming out of the back.

[219] Holy shit.

[220] She had a firebird.

[221] And I was like, you've never changed your oil?

[222] She'd never changed your oil.

[223] But her car was still driving.

[224] That's a lot of humans' bodies.

[225] It's the same thing.

[226] It's very similar.

[227] You're not doing the maintenance.

[228] Right.

[229] Yeah.

[230] Man, it is, it's interesting.

[231] Like, you just described, like, two parallel universes that exist side by side.

[232] Like, and if I had a bet, there are more people in the in the discordant is that what you'd say in the inharmonious reality than the harmonious one like I think that that probably I mean it's cynical to say but probably what like 70 % of people to some degree are stuck in the gravity well of whatever those things you it's a gravity well that's that because that's the thing man you You know, climbing out of that fucking hole is the hardest part.

[233] But that hole has its own gravity.

[234] And the gravity is around addiction to just the stuff you're describing.

[235] You're addicted to drama.

[236] You're addicted to eating shitty food.

[237] You're addicted to like staying up late and doom scrolling or whatever.

[238] It's a gravity.

[239] And so then you've got to crawl out of it to get into that other place.

[240] Yeah.

[241] And you get in that other place.

[242] And generally, the first thing you think is, God, this is incredible.

[243] But then the more you stay in that place, you kind of forget how bad it felt in the other place.

[244] And that's where the pattern can, like, you get sucked back into the gravity well.

[245] You don't, like, stay steady in the discipline.

[246] Yeah.

[247] I think that's a lot of people.

[248] Like, that is a...

[249] It's more people than not because our natural human instincts are to, you know, it's like to squabble.

[250] Yeah.

[251] It's like there's a natural squabble that's built into people.

[252] but it's a pattern of behavior it's a pattern of thinking you can recognize that it's a dangerous pattern or a shitty pattern or an unproductive pattern and overall a negative pattern just just get it out of there yeah you can do that I've done it you can do it people can do it you got to learn what it is you got to admit your own aggression yes because if you don't then you trick yourself as you engage in some conversation into thinking that there is an aggression behind it and you know I don't know if you can get rid of all aggression and confrontation like I don't know if it's possible to fully drop it imagine but you know listening to other people too like I have to do that I feel like you you you are being short you know or you whatever it's like you got to listen it's probably even though I don't think I was right your volume might be different or something We were having a conversation about this last night in the green room, too.

[253] It's like the way we talk to each other as comics, like, you know, everyone had a story of how they talked to their wife or their spouse like a comic once.

[254] And they're like, what the fuck did you think was going to happen?

[255] You know, where like the way you would say something to me, like if I did something really stupid, you're like, what the fuck did you think was going to happen?

[256] And I would start laughing.

[257] Yeah.

[258] But you can't make those kind of jokes sometimes with regular.

[259] people like regular people where you were insult like you could say like the most heinous joke to tony hitchcliff and he would fall on the ground laughing holding his time yes you could say terrible things about him and connecting him to joffrey from game of thrones and he'll he'll be on the ground laughing right but if you do that to just a regular guy that you work with it's very likely he's going to be severely upset oh very butt hurt and we are so used to talking to each other like that dude I've made like permanent I don't want to say enemies but I know there's people who like won't talk won't talk to me now because I forgot that and just you know I just out of a habit yeah just you interact with them and you can't you can't do that no you can't I just put te I just put a tear eye drops in my eyes so my face was wet as though from tears walked out of tears walked out of tears walked out of tears walked out of out in the living room and told our midwife that Obama had died like and thank God she has she laughed a sense of humor but then suddenly I was like what the fuck am I doing my wife is looking at me like what are you doing it's a midwife you're coming out here with fake deer saying Obama died that's fucked up everyone like went oh what because you know it would be so upsetting But like, and then I realized, like, what am I doing?

[260] What am I doing?

[261] You're doing what you would do in the green room.

[262] In the green room, in my living room.

[263] You're always doing that.

[264] When you say something made, there's always like this, what's, uh, I know.

[265] You should do it.

[266] You should definitely meet them.

[267] Remember that last night?

[268] Me, me, me too.

[269] You were trying to convince me. I can't even say it because I don't have to admit what we were talking about.

[270] Oh, yeah, right.

[271] You know what?

[272] Yes, exactly.

[273] That is with comedians.

[274] We will shift from reality to just, like, making up a story with each other instantly.

[275] It's such a fascinating mode of communication, and it's definitely not normal.

[276] My favorite is when someone does it, but with, like, subtle propaganda, like, real on the edge.

[277] Like, is he fucking...

[278] I'm sorry.

[279] No worries.

[280] Wait, hold on.

[281] God damn it.

[282] Sorry about that, man. Dude, it's a normal thing.

[283] What's going on here?

[284] It happens all the time.

[285] Let me just check.

[286] Yeah, you're about to have a baby.

[287] While we're doing this, Duncan is about to have one more human.

[288] That's right.

[289] And I'm very excited about it.

[290] But I'm so sorry that my phone went off you.

[291] Normally I would ignore it.

[292] No, no, I know.

[293] I get it.

[294] Please continue.

[295] Do you remember what you're saying?

[296] Nope.

[297] Yeah!

[298] I love it, dude.

[299] The, to me, like, this, once you start applying this to everybody, and you realize like a lot of times we're like using a mode of communication based on our experience with our particular job or business or whatever and trying to get other people or even your the way you were raised right this is you learn this mode of communication potentially from lunatics like you can't choose where you're born that's very true and then those people enter into conversations thinking that everyone else understands their what it's like to come out of that kind of universe man and then you're like you're an asshole no you're an asshole and it's like no neither of you're assholes you're just applying you're trying to get people into your reality tunnel instead of at least like finding the middle point between yours and theirs it's the worst especially like it's one thing if you're having some argument with some stranger but especially when it's like a good friend Joe I remember what you're saying what was I saying you're saying when people have an agenda like when you're in a conversation with somebody like that and you've detect some kind of slight agenda in there somewhere.

[300] Oh, I was saying you, some of your best fake arguments about things, you get real subtle with it.

[301] Or I'm like, what is, is you serious?

[302] Like, is it?

[303] And then you'll slowly, slowly enter into the preposterous.

[304] I got you.

[305] I got you.

[306] Yeah, that, oh, yeah, I know exactly.

[307] So if you were doing that with, like, normal people, it would take a long time for them to figure out what the fuck you're doing.

[308] And then when they do, they're like, Why?

[309] Why did you do that?

[310] Then they could never say that they would never trust you again.

[311] Yeah, it's a sociopath.

[312] What, what?

[313] He just told me his sister was eaten by a bear last week.

[314] Do you know what I'm realizing?

[315] There's another layer of comedy.

[316] There's another layer of comedy.

[317] It's green room comedy.

[318] Right.

[319] Green room comedy is some of my favorite comedy.

[320] The best.

[321] Some of my favorite comedy.

[322] We were crying last night.

[323] night we were crying yeah every night and it's cool because it's got this rhythm to it yeah like sometimes it gets quiet yes and then it'll start up again it's so cool man yeah it's a really interesting thing it's that two shows two shows a night is god damn magic because you get so loose yes it gets so loose it's so silly yeah man i didn't yeah like the times i've stayed i have to i leave because you're about to have a baby but the uh the times i've stayed especially super late it's really fun and so i think the other thing that's cool about it man is uh i feel like everyone is acknowledging how special it is like nobody's taking it for granted everybody's like are you kidding like yeah we're this is a possibility this is happening yeah isn't it crazy that it was an idea and now it's a real thing yes it was an idea and now it's a real thing that's the i i would i had the wildest idea about ideas once that what if ideas are a life form and the way they manifest in reality is they get into a person's brain and then influence that person to take action to create them the same way like a parasite will get into a grasshopper's brain yeah like a water like those aquatic worms and they convince the grasshopper to commit suicide so that they could born like weird shit happens with parasites what if ideas are a life form is everything that exists that human beings have created just think about the fucking immense amount of objects that we've created all of them came from ideas yeah all of them and we think of this is my idea i had this idea but we both know that ideas are very strange they they come to you in the weirdest of ways it's The reason why people believe in the muse, it's the reason why Pressfield's book, The War of Art, is so good.

[324] Yeah.

[325] Because when he documents this sort of journey that he goes on every day when he writes, where he summons the muse.

[326] Yeah.

[327] He does it like, and he is, in his mind, no, it's a real thing.

[328] And then starts to write and treats it like a ritual, like you're going to be there all the time.

[329] What is happening there?

[330] Like, what are you summoning when you get these ideas, whether it's summoning something that's a creative work, like literature, or whether it's the invention that changes society forever?

[331] Right.

[332] Like, all of them came from ideas.

[333] Yeah, and a lot of them, like, a lot of, like, the great ideas, like, Tesla, he just openly admits it came to him in a vision.

[334] Yeah.

[335] He saw it.

[336] Like, he doesn't even ascribe it to his own mind.

[337] It was like a vision.

[338] Don't you feel that way about some of your best joke?

[339] that they just pop in your head?

[340] Yeah, but you know what's weird about Tesla?

[341] And I'm sorry, you guys, if I'm wrong about this, but I read it and was blown away, and I think it was on his Wikipedia, but I could be wrong.

[342] Apparently, he was thinking about Faust when he had the vision.

[343] Now, I hope I'm not wrong about that, you guys.

[344] Jamie, would you mind?

[345] I'm sorry, dude.

[346] I could be wrong, and I'm sorry, y 'all if I am.

[347] But, yeah, Faust is about, you know, you know, an alchemist, he makes the, yeah.

[348] How poetry inspired Tesla to design one of his most important inventions.

[349] Do, do, do, do.

[350] There it is.

[351] Faust.

[352] Yeah.

[353] One of the lesser facts, one of the lesser known facts about Tesla is that he was also a great fan of poetry.

[354] It was an expert of...

[355] Gerdas.

[356] I think Gurdas.

[357] Gerdas.

[358] Gerdas, Foust.

[359] Gerdus Foust.

[360] that inspired him to finalize his invention of the alternating current motor.

[361] The term world -changing invention certainly applies to this innovation.

[362] So what inspired that was a poem, I thought it was a play, a poem about an alchemist selling a soul of the devil.

[363] So all of modern technology originated from the inspiration that he derived from a poem about a satanic bargain.

[364] is that wild the Faustian bargain the Faustian bargain was the according to the person who invented it was the inspiration for technology that we are still like using today like that so that so then you go back and you think well what inspired Gerta you know and then you realize it's like this crazy wave of like it ripples through time like somebody gets a great gets inspired writes it down it's beautiful i don't know how long passed between when he wrote that and tesla had his vision but certainly obviously gerda probably had no idea that when he spent the time writing that thing and trusted to write it down he was going to warp the entire planet his poem was going to ripple out and warp the entire planet just from a poem that's wild man Isn't that crazy?

[365] Isn't that nuts?

[366] Especially, I mean, it's so meta.

[367] You weren't wrong, it is a play, but it's written in verse.

[368] It is a poetry also.

[369] Gotcha.

[370] Wow.

[371] 1808.

[372] 1808.

[373] Someone writes a cool poem about selling your soul to the devil.

[374] Cut to now.

[375] There's self -driving cars.

[376] Holy fucking shit.

[377] Oh, my God.

[378] Ideas are strange.

[379] I mean, even back to the club, the idea of the club, you know?

[380] Yeah.

[381] When we were all talking about doing it, these ideas were just like, yeah, and then we could do this, and then we could do that.

[382] Yeah.

[383] Should we have this?

[384] Should we have that?

[385] Yeah.

[386] And we spent a fucking year and a half of doing this.

[387] It was a long process before it actually got built.

[388] Well, that's the problem with ideas.

[389] It's like they mimic.

[390] And I'm not just saying this because my wife.

[391] pregnant they mimic childbirth in the sense that there's some kind of gestation period that's there's the you're inseminated with your inspiration yeah then you got to start growing it and then the phases of growing it are can be like really torturous and long and like it somewhere in there you're like this sucks like this is really the dumbest thing of all time and then you keep working on it and maybe you realize that's true or you find the you fix it's like a puzzle and But that, you know, that is why so many people, I think, are, like, letting inspiration come all over their face, but not letting it inside.

[392] Well, it's, I always tell people that the way I try to think about things is bandwidth.

[393] I try to think about, I pretend there's a number.

[394] Let's say that number is 100.

[395] I have 100 band, 100 units that I have.

[396] for my information for what I'm allowed to think about that what I can use my brain for any time I put stuff in there that's nonsense anytime I put stuff in there that's that's negative or unproductive or at least unless it's funny yeah anytime I'm putting stuff in there that's taking away from all my other stuff and one thing that people need to understand is that one of the things your brain will do to protect yourself from whether it's the pressure of success or succeeding or accomplishing things your brain will when you're presented with the stress of trying to accomplish something it will put extra emphasis on all these stupid things in your life to distract yes and it it almost like protects you from the stress of having to do the work and you see people sabotage their lives sabotage their careers you It happened to artists, musicians, fighters, comedians.

[397] It's a normal thing that we do just as human beings.

[398] You get freaked out by what you know you should do, so you spend more time paying attention to the things that you shouldn't do.

[399] Yeah, man. Self -sabotage.

[400] It's very real.

[401] Very real.

[402] And based, at least my own assessment of it, it's based on the delusion.

[403] that the feeling of procrastination is less painful than the feeling of doing your work.

[404] And it couldn't, it's the opposite.

[405] Like procrastination, you spread it out across your life, like your weeks, you just spread this nice, shitty coating of procrastination, mild anxiety, general, like, sense of like, I'm a piece of shit because you're not doing it.

[406] And then when you finally get around to doing it, you realize the thing you didn't want to do is so fun most of the time engaging interesting but if nothing else you feel so much better because you're finally taking care of it yeah and you realize all that anxiety all that if you if you somehow could quantify the amount of anxiety you're going to feel procrastinating versus the amount of anxiety you're going to feel doing something you know what i mean it's exponentially more anxiety from procrastinating yes so the so the logic's all wrong it's a fuck -down up way of dealing with a problem is a master procrastinator you know i feel like i can talk about this because like having identified it's oh always feels better when you do it always then you your brain will orient i think in a more healthy way i hope mine does eventually no it i think also duncan you know you're you're so busy and you're so busy with your family and you're so busy with your podcast you're so busy with your comedy tour it's like yeah it's very very very very hard to allocate time to do stuff and one of the ways I have it easy is I have a gym right here I have a gym at home I make it easy so I do it right and I just I have to do it if I don't do it I don't feel good I don't think good I don't act good right it's better for me it's medicine and so I take my medicine and then I'm happy Joe hello yeah I'm everybody's friend I want to give everybody hugs right I want to be nice I want to see everybody succeed and grow and I'm not in my own head right I'm free.

[407] Right.

[408] So I have to be free.

[409] And for me, I feel like the human body, especially when you've put a lot of demand on that body over a long period of time like I have, it has requirements.

[410] Yeah.

[411] It's like a dog.

[412] You know, when you have a dog, one of the things that I do with my dog is I exercise that dude.

[413] I throw the ball for him.

[414] I play with them.

[415] We jump in the water and swim together.

[416] Dogs need exercise.

[417] Right.

[418] They need it.

[419] It's like of, and when he gets it, He's, like, chill and relaxed.

[420] And when he doesn't, he's like a little antsy, you know?

[421] Yeah.

[422] You could tell, like, he's a little down.

[423] Right.

[424] He wants to exercise.

[425] He's a dog.

[426] Wee.

[427] Yeah.

[428] It's fun.

[429] He likes chasing that fucking ball.

[430] Let's go.

[431] Right.

[432] He gets so excited.

[433] I always feel like I'm boring him.

[434] I'm like, the ball again.

[435] He's like, fuck yeah, the ball again.

[436] Let's go.

[437] Yeah.

[438] It's never not fun for him.

[439] Yeah.

[440] And so that's his medicine.

[441] And when he gets his medicine, he's a happier dog.

[442] Right.

[443] And that's my medicine.

[444] Yeah.

[445] It's just a thing you have to do to maintain your body at the best form.

[446] Yeah.

[447] And if you maintain your body at the best form, you have the most energy.

[448] You've the most energy for thinking.

[449] You have the most energy for activities.

[450] You have the most energy for anything physical that comes up.

[451] You know, I'd like being strong.

[452] I think it's important.

[453] I think if I could give, if it was an option in pill form, like could you, would you take this pill?

[454] There's no side effects other than your health will improve and you'll be much stronger.

[455] Would you take it?

[456] Everybody's going to take it.

[457] everybody would take it of course well that that exists it's just not a pill you just have to exercise for long periods of time you know and be very consistent you made me picture in my head how fucked up will be to come home your dog is laying in bed playing video games with like some Kleenex on the floor next to it you would you would take him to the vet like immediately you would take them to the no I'd be like how long you've been doing this man you can play video games Can you talk?

[458] That's what I'd say.

[459] Do you remember my bit?

[460] Do you remember my bit about the talking dog?

[461] Yes.

[462] You can talk.

[463] You can play video games.

[464] We're going to be rich.

[465] Oh, fuck, man. I wish we couldn't get high anymore.

[466] Oh, man. Yeah, if your dog was playing video games, it would be the coolest thing ever.

[467] You could go play video games with your dog.

[468] What if he's good?

[469] Society would collapse.

[470] Like, that would be the end of the same.

[471] society no one is fucking anymore like they just play video games they would with their dogs just get a dog that's going to be a real problem sometime soon anyway this is going to be they're going to invent something that allows you to orgasm with your mind there's going to be some neuralink type deal where once they tap into functions of the mind and start expanding the uh the the abilities of these neural link type.

[472] It's going to be nuts.

[473] And they're going to figure out a way to reproduce more effectively with less errors without biological sex.

[474] And since gender is just a construct anyway, everyone's just going to slowly eat plastic until your dick shrinks.

[475] And we're all going to become aliens.

[476] You know, man, before we become aliens, which I honestly, I buy into that idea.

[477] But before we become aliens, all the weird shit in between us becoming aliens, that's the part that, like, the neuralink stuff or the inevitable, whatever the brain interface shows up as.

[478] The inevitable day that someone hacks into whatever the server is that's dishing out feelings or whatever it is to people attached.

[479] There will be like an orgasm wave because someone's going to hack it.

[480] someone's going to simultaneously give like an incredibly powerful orgasm to everyone on the planet and you'll just watch it around you as people like come super hard because everyone's neurolink got hacked yeah if that's going to happen or whatever whatever I mean or something more sinister something something I don't think if I was an evil dictator I'd make everybody come yeah but if you're a troll you would if you're on 4chan you would if 4ch and be not a 100 % 100 % an orgasm wave yeah you'd watch like the president they time it with the president's speech and you'd see what Biden looks like when he comes probably starts yelling bang bang bang bang yeah i mean that's the i love that part of society it is interesting though how there is a subconscious to society like yeah that that Within society, there's the self that people present.

[481] And then underneath it, there's all the shit nobody sees.

[482] All the shit that people do behind closed doors.

[483] All the shit that isn't that person they put out front.

[484] And, you know, the bigger, the tension between those two things is the worse your life is going to be.

[485] But the, yeah, man, it's just weird to think about that.

[486] Like, no matter what, no matter how professional a person presents us, no matter how, like, they've got it together.

[487] have it together you don't know yeah you never know spaghetti baths they could go home and just cover themselves in spaghetti and and and cry a lot of crying yeah so that to me is interesting like within society is a whole hidden realm and specifically as far as I'm aware no one has seen a president come in the public like it's more secret than aliens like there's no video of a president coming there isn't that I'm aware that I'm aware We will never know.

[488] You don't think on Epstein's Island there's videos of presidents coming?

[489] Like you would play them like...

[490] Over and over again.

[491] Why do you think Epstein had that giant painting of Bill Clinton in a dress in his foyer?

[492] Dude.

[493] Do you know that picture?

[494] Yeah.

[495] That painting?

[496] Epstein's taste in art was not great.

[497] Like if you look at the shit...

[498] No, that was great.

[499] That painting is like, I got you.

[500] bitch.

[501] That's what that is.

[502] Oh, right.

[503] You got a president who was on the flight logs 26 times with Epstein, and you got that guy in a fucking dress in your house.

[504] Okay, I'm dumb.

[505] I'm sorry, dude.

[506] I'm officially dumb because I've known about that picture.

[507] And I've just been like, why would anybody want a fucking picture?

[508] That is, I got you, bitch.

[509] That's just to like, hey, yeah.

[510] That's I got you, bitch.

[511] That is terrifying.

[512] That's terrifying.

[513] You imagine if I knew some hard.

[514] horrible dark secrets about you and you came over my house and I have a giant painting of you right when you walk into the front door yeah of you in a dress yeah and I'm like hey buddy hi welcome yeah you're right how fucking terrifying that would be that's terrifying you know he knows about it I mean you walk right in and bam there's that painting and now you kind of control a president Holy shit, dude Holy shit That's crazy 100 % what they were doing 100 % what they were doing Dude I just don't even want to think about I don't want to think about All the like entities We'll never even know about That ride presidents around Like a fucking horse They just gallop around on them Just riding them around We got another president We did it We lassowed another one We got one And that is is so crazy to think about like a president who is being extorted the president of the United States being extorted yeah and like what that would feel like to be the president and know that you are no longer actually the president yeah that you are now the like you are just a puppet of some other fucking thing oh dude i hope that's not i i would i think you're right but god damn that sinister i wish it was just bad taste just shitty fucking art on you your walls uh oh no oh no you can't the shitty art of your friend who you flew with 26 times you're right joe i just i didn't put it all i'm dumb i didn't put it all together you're right man no that is clearly what that is yeah clearly oh it's wild it's wild i got to pee me too right let's peeve come back where were we man we you were creeping me out because you were like There's like, you have a talent for creeping me out, man. Like when you describe bear attacks, yeah.

[515] Fucks me up for a while or shark attacks.

[516] But yeah, we were talking about, we're talking about the Epstein Clinton painting and how, you know, sort of like the implication of anything like that or the reminder of anything like that is because our leaders are human and humans are culpable and hackable.

[517] And it's easier to invade a country or take over a country by just, control the leader, you control the country, so there's clearly a pressure there.

[518] There's obviously people who would love to do that and probably try, would try, and have probably succeeded a few times, meaning that our understanding of democracy as like the president represents the people, it's like totally wrong.

[519] In fact, it's potentially someone being controlled by people you'll never meet or maybe never even knew existed.

[520] Yeah.

[521] It's creepy.

[522] That can't be true.

[523] Well, it's got to be true.

[524] Because if it was, well, they would never, if you had an enormous organization that controls everything, you control everything in the country, would you really let a new person just run it every four years in whatever way they like?

[525] Right.

[526] Wouldn't you, if you're there forever?

[527] You're there forever.

[528] You're not there for four years.

[529] Yeah.

[530] You're running various agencies and, like, wouldn't you make sure over time that you secured enough control that the president really is just sort of a figurehead?

[531] Joe, I am a doctor.

[532] Oh.

[533] I'm sorry, but it seems like you're...

[534] Is this information?

[535] No, yeah.

[536] Malinformation?

[537] Malinformations.

[538] put the thing up, say this was fact -checked and is wrong.

[539] Because to me, it feels like, yeah, you're like implying that the president of the United States past presidents were controlled by secret groups or, I don't know, corporations or something.

[540] That sounds crazy.

[541] Well, it's preposterous.

[542] Yeah, I mean, we have a democracy.

[543] That's not even possible.

[544] Nobody.

[545] nobody on this planet would ever want to control the United States without having to invade it nobody would ever want to do that or try to do that or succeed in doing that.

[546] God damn, man. You definitely couldn't do it with money.

[547] No. Presidents don't like money.

[548] No, they generally shy away from it.

[549] Most of them are dead broke, even when they're in there in the White House.

[550] Like, you know, they're like dead fucking broke.

[551] That's why Bill Clinton ate McDonald's.

[552] Every day.

[553] every day people had a loan of money and shit dude he would get his car booted and couldn't afford to get the boot off yeah this is why all of our American politicians are like they're poppers when they get out middle income it's isn't it wild how much they actually make it's an insane amount of money and you look at how much money they get after they get out of the White House yeah like what are you doing I'm like, wow.

[554] How'd you make that much money?

[555] You just got back into business.

[556] Yeah.

[557] You weren't in business at all.

[558] Jump back into that housekeeping business.

[559] Now you're worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

[560] That's kind of crazy.

[561] You know, just some, you know, actually I have a blind investor.

[562] I have a, what do they call it, where they don't know the investments being made?

[563] Like, I just happen to have, like, a really good business dude who, like, invested the $10 ,000 I saved up before I became president, and it turned into millions.

[564] The most transparent one is speaking.

[565] fees because it's speaking fees are a way that you can give people money you can just give them money and they they perform a thing they talk and it can be the most uninspired nonsensical horseshit talk it doesn't matter they're going to get a half a million dollars that's right that's right that's just a normal amount of money that you get and then you go here and you make it over there and you go here and make it over and you collect from everybody so you have some sort of financial arrangement but that financial arrangement is about speaking fees see this is what i'm talking about man this is the liminal or subliminal part of the human experience what you're talking about right now is upsetting to people uh but also a lot of people will say don't even talk you're not even supposed to say that like and and even though it's true like even though it's in plain sight trackable traceable precedent for it in the past not even that like astounding you are supposed to like rest in this strange dream world where human beings experiencing some of the most power you can have in the world don't go a little or totally or completely insane or don't get hijacked or don't get like we're supposed to pretend that doesn't happen right when you look at the president look like does Biden seem like he be hard to trick would you even have to trick them though maybe I mean it's so hard to know what what goes on behind those closed doors and they're making decisions don't want to see they made it they sent an extra bill how many billion dollars they They accidentally sent to Ukraine.

[566] 6 .2 billion.

[567] It was an accident.

[568] They accidentally sent it?

[569] Yeah, 6 .2 more than they were supposed to.

[570] Wow.

[571] But then they just sent some more.

[572] That must have been a rough phone call to ask for it back.

[573] The county error provides an extra 6 .2 billion for Ukraine military aid.

[574] Whoops.

[575] Sorry.

[576] Hey, what's up?

[577] It's Duncan.

[578] Look, you know, I kind of fucked up.

[579] I was a little bit of ketamine when I was doing that.

[580] You, whatever, the transaction.

[581] So can you send back the 6.

[582] 62 billion dollars.

[583] 6 .2.

[584] 6 .2 billion dollars I actually sent to you.

[585] Can you just send it back?

[586] Because you'd think if it's a clerical error, right?

[587] Then they're going to be like, oh, shit.

[588] You know, I didn't notice the $6 .2 billion going into my account.

[589] That's how rich I am.

[590] I'll send.

[591] There's so much money.

[592] Because at some point, you know, it's just, I don't even know what it is.

[593] Just billions, lots of billions.

[594] Yeah, it's pretty weird.

[595] The Pentagon said Tuesday that it overestimates.

[596] the value of the weapons it's sent to Ukraine by $6 .2 billion over the past two years about double early estimates resulting in a surplus that will be used for future security packages.

[597] Oh, don't worry about it.

[598] Just use it for future security packages.

[599] It's a security package.

[600] Yeah, it's a surplus.

[601] What do we know, man?

[602] Security packages.

[603] We don't know shit.

[604] That's just saying, we're going to keep sending money forever and ever and ever.

[605] It's a security package.

[606] It'll just go back into the pot of money that we have.

[607] that we have allocated that's a big fucking pot future pentagon stock drawdowns look at that future pentagon stock drawdowns ew why does that sound like they're playing a game you know i'm saying that's like sounds like a game carlin's got the ultimate bit on it man like the evolution of war language you know it used to be called shell shocked but then they changed it like it's like the The, whatever that language is, is inevitably confusing.

[608] It's confusing and it's also, it has this air of authority to it like the judge wearing the robe.

[609] Yeah, yeah, technotic.

[610] Yeah, by talking about it that way, stock drawdowns and, you know, pentagon's allocated money.

[611] I don't know this is the same money, but in May, they found $3 billion more back then, so I don't know.

[612] If that's 10 or if they just doubled what they're four.

[613] Well, their keyboard's probably broken.

[614] It's a mistake.

[615] It's a mistake.

[616] It makes mistakes for people, but we're all doing the right thing.

[617] Easy to fuck it up, man. It's like we got to take it easy on these people.

[618] And again, like, you, if you, even though it is like mainstream news.

[619] Yeah.

[620] That's what I like that's so brilliant about it, is that they're just like, yeah, you know, it's a pot.

[621] We had a pot.

[622] Yeah.

[623] And it goes in the same pot.

[624] It's no big deal.

[625] There's other stuff.

[626] And it goes out there.

[627] there everyone sees it everyone's busy dude yeah and no one has time to really like start thinking about no 3 .2 billion dollars 6 .2 billion dollars that we've all put into that pot like every single person living in america has put some dollars in that pot and some of those dollars you know bridges are fucking collapsing you know it's it should be mildly frustrating to people mildly frustrating that realize $6 .2 billion of like fireman checks, teacher checks, nurse checks, the frontline workers, that's, that, that money is like, doesn't that matter enough for them to like be more careful about it?

[628] And also when they fuck up like that, where's the apology?

[629] You just blew $6 billion of, of, of tax money and it was a mistake.

[630] You're not keeping, like, imagine if your accountant made the same mistake.

[631] Just basic accountant.

[632] Would you keep that accountant as your accountant?

[633] And if you did, you're a fucking idiot.

[634] You got to fire that accountant and get an accountant who doesn't, like, misplace so much money, right?

[635] Yeah.

[636] And especially if the accountant didn't apologize, which is like, oh, right, well, you see.

[637] we have a different pot where some of your money it's a pot thing allocated it's allocated into pots do you know how complex our pot system is you should see it I've got a thousand pots back there varying sizes it did change according to astrological shifts don't even worry about it it's just a pot I kind of got to go come on like it's so frustrating it's so frustrating it's very wild dude it's very wild that they just keep printing money jacking up the inflation printing money i love that one because mixed into the printing money thing which obviously have money printers what's really funny about that is somehow people believe that that money is like doesn't go just right hot off the press to like people in the building like or that it doesn't like some of that money gets shifted around and like you know or some of it is printed and I know I'm sure there's like no there's securities in place we have securities in place it's numbered we've got to come on right some of if you have a money printer in America are you fucking kidding me if you're the main printer of money in America like you're the one who like presses enter on the computer to print out two trillion dollars wow you're You're like, that's like living next to the sun.

[638] You're just...

[639] Imagine being that person.

[640] What does money even mean to you?

[641] Nothing.

[642] It must be so weird.

[643] So weird.

[644] These pieces of paper are everything that people are struggling for.

[645] And you know, the smell of it, you come to work, you come home and you smell like money.

[646] You smell like the ink they use for money.

[647] You have to pour ink into...

[648] I mean, like, what's the ink come from?

[649] Where's the ink?

[650] And who puts it in?

[651] And what is, like, the ink that the pre -money ink look like?

[652] Not only that.

[653] They have to do it in a very complex way, so it can't be easily duplicated.

[654] I mean, just think about how silly it is, that paper money.

[655] Like, it's kind of paper.

[656] Paper.

[657] That you can't duplicate.

[658] Like, no one can duplicate that.

[659] Like, you have to make it so complex that it can't be counterfeit.

[660] And change it up?

[661] Yeah.

[662] But they have, like, little things in them.

[663] you look at it a certain way with like...

[664] Yeah, I've seen it.

[665] I mean, it's gotten increasingly like...

[666] You know, you talk about the...

[667] I love it.

[668] The race, the evolutionary race.

[669] Like, every time, like, gazelle has to get a little bit faster.

[670] And then if it's getting faster, the predator has to increase its speed.

[671] And so there's this, like, evolutionary pressure to, like, keep things going faster.

[672] Same with counterfeit, right?

[673] It's got to be.

[674] So they're like, okay, we solve the problem.

[675] We put a, like, triple hologram.

[676] underneath that would require 700 micro sheets of paper to duplicate.

[677] Somebody's looking at that and being like, how much money would it cost to duplicate that?

[678] And they're like, oh, probably a million dollars.

[679] And they're like, great.

[680] We'll pay for it with the money we print.

[681] We'll take the loan, print the money, and pay for it.

[682] And then they're like, fuck, they figured our duplication technique.

[683] And then our hologram technique.

[684] And then they're like, fuck, we've got to put something else in there.

[685] And then it's just a never -ending, I imagine, like...

[686] How long before we're a cashless society?

[687] Hopefully forever, dude.

[688] I hope forever.

[689] I hope we...

[690] Like, it is so scary to imagine the, like, losing the privacy, losing it all completely because every transaction is in the public eye or observable.

[691] That's really scary, man. I mean, it's like, I don't even do anything interesting with my money.

[692] like except like tip on the road like you know I use my card and I know that's the argument is that's traceable I realize that but it's scary because there's an option you want to just like blow some cash on something you can't you could just like no one'll know it's whatever it is right not that I would ever use cash for anything other than legal purposes it's just like the you know what I mean like the like one day in the future everything will be traceable that's right and That's, you know, this is where I get, this is where being raised in Episcopalian.

[693] And the book of Revelation is going to, as a Christian, you're going to read it.

[694] This is where I get scared because it's too similar to the mark of the beast.

[695] It's too similar to exactly what it says.

[696] You won't be able to trade.

[697] You won't be able to do anything unless you have the mark, unless you bear the mark.

[698] So what is that in that term in the, how is that, how is the mark of the beast described in the Bible?

[699] we should read it because I think you're on to something we're now officially podcasting this is fucking it we're opening up the book of revelations we're in now yeah the mark of the beast it's like you can't do anything you can't sell you can't if you don't take the mark you're fucked I mean that's that's that like if you remove the ability to trade currency in a private way you now can you are now controlled.

[700] You are now monitored.

[701] That's like, or...

[702] Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth.

[703] It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.

[704] It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast whose mortal wound was healed.

[705] It performs great signs, even making fire come down from the heaven to earth in front of people.

[706] And by the signs that it allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain it also causes all both small and great both rich and poor both free and slave to be marked on the right hand or the forehead so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark that is the name of the beast or the number of its name this calls for wisdom let the one who is understanding calculate the number of the beast for it is the number of a man and his number is six six six you know it's so wild about that stuff reading that is it's really clear that they spoke differently yeah and also really clear that you're getting a translation from another language like this is the best version of the English translation they should they could give us it gets weirder when you get to the original like when you get to the original because like you know one of the reasons that seems weird is because that that's a that's a code that like it's not like it's meant it's encoded.

[707] Like, there's some kind of, like, other thing in there.

[708] Jimmy just pulled this up.

[709] The classical Greek word charamagma charagma, charagma, translated as Mark of the Beast in Revelation 1316 can also mean any mark engraved and printed or branded stamped money, document, or coin.

[710] The Mark of the Beast is interpreted differently across the four main views of Christian eschatology eschatology dude so that's a code number one too you know just one way to connect to it and it helps when you're on a psychedelic is forget about the whether or not any of it makes sense but imagine like a mind produced that yeah so whoever wrote that like yeah what was their consciousness like dude that's some heavy shit like and it's so specific And when you get to the original, at least I haven't done it for the book of Revelations, but the book of John, it's, it becomes even more intense and more like, wait, what?

[711] Like in the beginning was the word logos.

[712] Logos.

[713] So you realize suddenly like within it is this psychedelic cosmology that in the beginning there was like truth.

[714] There was just truth reality.

[715] And then that truth like manifested.

[716] extruded itself into time space for a second to like talk about like heaven or to talk about like the real reality outside the simulator whatever you want to call it and this is the best and it gets translated a lot of different ways it was something like it was a light and the darkness and the darkness did not understand it so it's like the truth appears in the darkness the darkness is like I don't we don't even know what this is I can't see it i don't i don't understand it and then and then that was the like jesus is a representation of that the manifestation of that possibility of like pure truth appearing in a world of darkness and whoa dude that's fucking cool regardless of historical truth or whatever that's just a beautiful and deep heavy way of talking about um parallel universes or the or or the possibility of things happening on a planet where people have gotten completely lost, where suddenly in the midst of that, something appears that isn't lost, that is like a pure representation of a higher consciousness or something.

[717] Sometimes it likes to talk.

[718] It's like when you, it's like sending, like you're putting yourself in one of your Sims in Sim City.

[719] You just go down there and you're like, okay, here's what's going on.

[720] and then pop back out and then they kill him that's the best part it's like the and so the book of John I just look this up because I'm writing about it but the book of John is Matthew Mark Luke synoptic gospels they have the same stories in them mostly John not synoptic and has all this weird shit in it and not that any of the other stuff isn't weird but particularly weird stuff in it and so those three gospels They have within them something that I've always struggled with understanding the logic, which is to be cleansed by the blood of Jesus.

[721] Sacrifice the God, child, drink his blood, sins cleansed.

[722] Whereas Book of John, it has less of a focus on that or the redemption through the crucifixion.

[723] And more saying the crucifixion itself was the ultimate, because it was the like collision between light and darkness where light instead of getting agro fighting back just like prayed for the people killing it and died and like dude you're not going to sleep at night if you're crucifying somebody who's praying for you who's like looking at you and loves you not in a fake bullshit spiritual way but loves you and knows you no is known you forever and loves you and truly forgives you oh dude that fucks the whole game up it ruins darkness it's the ultimate atom bomb in the face of power yeah go ahead and kill me dude it's really cool so you know regardless that the book of revelations and all of that stuff i think it it clearly emanates from an expanded consciousness, if nothing else.

[724] Do you think there really was a Jesus?

[725] Well, I think, you know, I read that controversial book by Reza Aslan about Jesus.

[726] It's pretty good.

[727] It's called, oh, geez, Jamie.

[728] I'm sorry.

[729] I don't know the name of it.

[730] It's so dumb, man. I can remember what books say, but I can't remember their titles.

[731] But yeah, he says, apparently there are references to zealot.

[732] And it's controversial.

[733] I know some people don't like it, but I enjoyed it.

[734] But it says, like, apparently, there are references to a Jesus, but never described as Messiah, but as a magician who was going around healing people and stuff.

[735] So there is some reference to the being.

[736] But, you know, like, I get so bored with the attempt to find the historic Jesus.

[737] Because I think it really misses the point altogether.

[738] Like I think like you get so caught up and like trying to like find the grail or whatever Mm -hmm that you lose track of regardless of the truth of this being walking the earth Does it change the substance of like the parables and they're referencing of some Realm a transcendent realm a possibility outside the suffering of the mundane world outside of like sucking emperor dicks so you can get a little bit of power.

[739] Actually, there's something in any person's life.

[740] You can just wake up and see it.

[741] The kingdom of heaven knows this.

[742] So to me, I don't care if just a lot of smart people who were trying to convey an ancient cosmology created like a character to embody that.

[743] Because I don't think that was, to me, that's not the point.

[744] I know for a lot of Christians it is, And I don't mean to offend you all.

[745] It's just, you know, I'm sure any Christian out there, if you're not like wrestling with the Bible anyway, you know, you should wrestle with it.

[746] It's meant to train you and get in your head and like grab you and confuse you.

[747] And then it's an amazing work.

[748] It really is, like the New Testament, I mean, I mean, all of it.

[749] Wasn't one of the controversial aspects of when Martin Luther translated it when they translated it into phonetic language so that people didn't have to.

[750] to know Latin to read the Bible.

[751] And he, one of the more controversial things is he was like, I think he was expressing something very similar to that.

[752] That you're really supposed to like get out of it, what you get out of it.

[753] It's open to your interpretation.

[754] I think it would, it loses all its power if it requires an actual flesh being.

[755] And I get why people want that.

[756] I understand the argument.

[757] but like to me with it written within it is like you know the communion for example right Jesus never said here's how we are going to do communion he did like say something really quite beautiful about which is like exactly like maybe the sweetest thing you can say to your friend if you're dying which is when you eat good food remember me and when you drink wine I'm going to be in that wine.

[758] Oh, my God.

[759] That's so sweet.

[760] It's so beautiful.

[761] And it's like such an invitation for everybody.

[762] Like anyone, you can all eat.

[763] I'm in your bread.

[764] I'm in like, I'm in what the life force itself to the point where you can connect with me just through basic, like, dietary stuff.

[765] I love that.

[766] It's beautiful.

[767] Like it's such a great way of fucking up the middleman, the priest class, the hierarchical bullshit.

[768] It's like, no. I'm completely with you right now You got to reach out And so these Whoever what Whoever wrote that I think that's what they were saying It's like we're you're kind of in a weird part of the multiverse Where it's easy to forget There's a lot more going on than what you think is going on there Yeah And it's easy to fall prey to all the tricks of that place Because it's a tricky place that wants you to worship it And you don't have to do that Like that's beautiful so yeah i don't care who it i don't care who whoever wrote it or the people who wrote it or the you know the how whatever the true story is it's going to be a mystery forever but yeah but it's such a fascinating mystery it is like i wish i could read aramaic and then read the the dead sea scrolls god i know man because that's the oldest one we know of right that's the oldest version of the biblical stories i'm pretty sure man i mean i wouldn't i'm pretty sure I imagine there's fragments and stuff that, like...

[769] It's so fragmented that they had to use DNA to determine whether or not the scrolls were from the same cow.

[770] So, like, when you would find pieces of animal flesh that were from different cows, they knew, okay, we'll put that in this pile.

[771] God damn, dude.

[772] That would have been a fun archaeological dig to be working on.

[773] But also, what a mind fuck.

[774] You know, like trying to piece that puzzle together and try to figure out...

[775] How old is the Dead Sea Scrolls?

[776] Like 4 ,000 years old or something?

[777] Dude, I don't know.

[778] I have no idea.

[779] See how old the Dead Sea Scrolls are?

[780] I know they found them in Kumron.

[781] They found them in clay tablet or clay pots.

[782] Third century BC.

[783] Wow.

[784] Wow.

[785] Yeah, man. I mean, then like when you get into like the Torah, Hebrew, when you get into like the, a lot of the stuff Jesus was referencing, And you get, you realize, like, not only is it, like, powerful writing with, like, incredible parables in it about, like, way society collapses or families collapse or a life collapses.

[786] It also is, like, mathematical, like, that, that, you know, I can't remember the name of it.

[787] There's a whole thing where you, like, the number, you know, I know we've talked about this.

[788] God and nature, same number.

[789] Like, God and love is the same.

[790] That.

[791] It's ancient Hebrew.

[792] Their numbers doubled as letters.

[793] Yeah.

[794] And then you see there's an intentionality to that patterning.

[795] And so then you realize like, oh, so like on top of telling these powerful stories, they figured out a way to encode within the powerful stories more information that only people are going to find if they dig deeper that's designed to be there for you if you want it.

[796] But you've got to want it.

[797] You've got to dig in.

[798] Human beings are like that language is too complicated Let's abandon it Learning that shit They abandoned it You're thinking about how complicated Ancient Hebrew Oh yeah I guess you're right yet anymore Also uncovered was a 6 ,000 year old skeleton Of a partially mummified child And a 10 ,500 year old basket Which Israeli authorities said Could be the oldest in the world A CT scan revealed the child's age Was between 6 and 12 With the skin tendons and even Hair partially preserved I don't remember hearing about this I don't remember hearing about that I don't I've never heard that Wow It's like 8 ,000 BC or even long ago 8500 BC when they found This basket was made Wait what is the Can we read that among the recovered text Which are still all in Greek is Nahum 156 which says The mountains quake because of him And the hills melt The earth heaves before him The world and all that dwell therein Who can stand before his wrath who can resist his fury his anger pours out like fire and rocks are shattered because of him fuck i mean that's nature wow let's hit hold up go there back says the authority said these words differ slightly from other bible versions shedding a rare light on how biblical text changed over time from its earliest form the dead the desy scrolls have a lot of really weird stuff in them like what well you know the Christian stuff, the John Marco Elegros stuff from the sacred mushroom in the cross.

[799] That's all his interpretation.

[800] I'm sure you would have to be a scholar to understand even what the fuck they're saying.

[801] But he was essentially saying that you can trace back the word Christ to an ancient Sumerian word which means a mushroom covered in God's semen.

[802] And he thinks that when God orgasmed on the earth, things would blossom from it.

[803] This is like what the way ancient people used to think of when it rained.

[804] They literally think God was coming.

[805] And then when those mushrooms would just appear out of the grass, which, you know, mushrooms grow really quickly.

[806] You know that.

[807] Yeah.

[808] So when people would wake up in the morning and see these mushrooms after the rain and they would eat them and trip their fucking balls off.

[809] John Marco Allegro believed that this was the source of the original Christianity.

[810] Wow.

[811] But it was a lot, it was about psychedelic rituals, and it was about fertility cults.

[812] Wow.

[813] Yeah, it was about people trying to duplicate, trying to have children.

[814] I mean, that's crazy, man. Yeah.

[815] Oh, God, that would have been so fun the trip back then.

[816] Like, it's from God's jizz.

[817] Eat it.

[818] Unless your knee breaks, and there's no doctors, there's no nothing.

[819] You just die.

[820] Infection, die.

[821] Yeah, there's something.

[822] Some drawbacks.

[823] Oh, there's a lot of drawbacks on.

[824] Some drawbacks.

[825] No penicillin.

[826] No antibiotics.

[827] No vitamins.

[828] No grocery stores.

[829] No hand washing.

[830] No hand washing.

[831] No knowledge of what's going on with bacteria.

[832] They probably wash their hands.

[833] Occasionally.

[834] I mean.

[835] They're killing fish.

[836] I'm sure there's shit we're not doing right now.

[837] I'm sure.

[838] It's a species that we should be doing.

[839] Like some thing where in the future they're like they didn't.

[840] They didn't tap their pineal glands every morning.

[841] Right.

[842] They thought out there was this one hack.

[843] Yeah, just one hack that makes you live longer.

[844] But, yeah, man, I think if you explore the psychedelic universe as an existent place, that has its own consciousness, its own mind, and is interested in spreading itself into like little bubbles of, like, I don't know, parts of the universe that have forgotten about it yeah because that's the thing we get amnesia of it here everyone's amnesiac to that reality it exploring like you know the idea that it sometimes it wants to send a letter here yeah it tries to break through not just a jesus but with any like what we call a messiah or a prophet or whatever just some it's like a leak in the damn separating us from eternity and paradise and these leaks appear in the form of people saying these things that run counter to power structures.

[845] And almost immediately, the leak is sealed or crucified or whatever.

[846] And then the whatever they were saying, it's co -opted.

[847] And suddenly a hierarchy appears within the thing.

[848] So now you've got a priest class in Christianity.

[849] There's an entire hierarchical systems of Christianity.

[850] And that's fascinating to me. Because, like, the thing that my understanding of it is, like, you don't really need a priest class.

[851] Like, you don't need any, you and me, like, you and truth, you get to hang out together without anybody telling you.

[852] Actually, that's not the real truth.

[853] Your mind is broken.

[854] What brings us back to cults?

[855] Yeah.

[856] When one person is the person who decides the way things should be and makes the rules.

[857] the translations yeah and they dressed like the pope they dress like the pope they there's a well i mean there's so many costumes for it yeah like but generally if you see someone wearing a costume and it's not Halloween you know or you're not at like a convention you better watch the fuck out especially if the person wearing a costume is telling you that they are such an authority on this subject or that that you can't even fucking question it.

[858] That you're questioning itself is offensive.

[859] Now, you got to watch out, because if that's happening, you could be in a cult.

[860] Like, if someone's telling that to you, if they're like, we don't even ask that question.

[861] Yeah.

[862] You better watch the fuck out because that, once people start doing that, man. Yeah.

[863] You know, they shut down.

[864] Then now they're shutting down the truth.

[865] Or the joy that comes from turning on the light in the dark.

[866] you know like the joy of when someone comes to you confused truly confused and you give them like real data that can change their lives you know what i mean now you're ruining that possibility not to mention you're telling people not to trust their rational mind like the essence of who they are like could be off a little bit oh watch out man people in costumes yeah people in costumes and it's just wild that it works police uniform worms and you know look if cops how to just wear guns and like a badge around their neck with regular clothes that would be a disaster because like it's so many like at least now if you want to like impersonate a cop you got to like go to a costume shop you know what I mean now anybody like I'm a cop isn't that crazy though that like they have an outfit they wear an outfit yes with a with a star some of with a like a special star that imbues power.

[867] I mean, this is credentialing, right?

[868] Like, this is like, once you have gone to university for a certain amount of time, gotten deeply into debt to the banks, you are given a credential or like a license, right, to practice whatever the particular thing is that you went to school for.

[869] But you, like, essentially have, like, given the banks all this fucking money to get a magic star on your certificate where people know, okay, this person is the real deal and that that is really like fascinating man that you know when i go to a doctor i want to see some fucking certificates on the wall but i have never in my life going to a doctor like remembered the certificates and gone home and like did he really go to that university never well they have caught people doing that pretending to be doctors i know leasing office space setting up fake things on the wall dude i saw a whole forensic files about it like i think a guy did surgery oh my god like i think a guy was like had his hands in people's guts who tricked them into thinking he was a doctor wow yeah wow some people are fucking crazy yeah man and it's like i'm just think about it like if it's like people are printing money you think people aren't printing certificates for themselves of this school are not just knowing in general people are lazy no one's going to look this up and if they do i'll just change my phone number if they don't i'm a fucking doctor now i'm a doctor in a hospital wow yeah well there's always been frauds there's always been these weird people that pretend to be somebody it's such a strange thing because it's just like an exercise and how well you can just keep pretending, you know, because you've got to pretend for a long time and you've got to tell people's stories about where you went to school and what hospitals you've worked at.

[870] Yeah, it's camoed.

[871] It's like, it's just like any other predator, man. It just figures out how to like blend in or turn into its prey and then boom, you're in there.

[872] Look, why are we veering into this paranoid land?

[873] It's like so scary to think about that, but I guess you're supposed to i guess that's it's important to like recognize that aspect of things or you get like you get fucked over usually usually you have to be aware that some people are just full of shit you have to be aware that some people are just their sociopaths they don't have the same sort of emotional connection to others and what what they're doing is like trying to play a game I'm like, I'm going to pretend to be a doctor.

[874] Who says I'm not a doctor?

[875] Yeah.

[876] I'm going to talk like a doctor.

[877] I'm going to listen to doctors on YouTube and the way they describe certain procedures.

[878] I think I can do those procedures.

[879] You know, fucking just a plires on someone's tooth.

[880] Pulling it out of their head.

[881] Just lying.

[882] I'm a dentist.

[883] I'm a dentist.

[884] How hard can it be a dentist?

[885] It can't be that hard.

[886] They're just teeth.

[887] How hard would it be?

[888] You just put some fake doctors just drilling into your teeth And the nurse doesn't know She thinks he's a doctor Yeah man She's just a nurse, she got hired Yeah Or the dental assistant They don't even right What is a Just an assistant with rubber gloves on Just someone who works there Yeah dude Like what the fuck It's like we you know Again you just have to Like it's You realize Like if all you have to do Is put on a costume And you know Maybe not everybody, but enough people are going to think that you are important or more advanced than them.

[889] All you have to do is put on a costume?

[890] Yeah.

[891] Of course people are going to do that all the time.

[892] All the time.

[893] People do that with business suits.

[894] They wear business suits.

[895] Yeah, they wear business suits.

[896] And, you know, people, there's something suspicious about it.

[897] It's like shouldn't, shouldn't just what you're saying or your skill set be enough?

[898] Like the fact you have to indicate on top of that by wearing like a weird outfit, that's suspicious.

[899] I mean, I'm not saying ceremonial garb is important.

[900] I get it in like certain like rights.

[901] Like, you know, the priest's wearing, what they're wearing all has significance.

[902] It's a fractal.

[903] It represents something.

[904] like i'm not like i'm not saying that auto means something's fucked i'm like but it's just such a exploitable flaw in society you know that's all it's like if it's exploitable it's been exploited i mean there's like clearly you just go on youtube some lunatic just decides to start pulling people over yeah for sure i wonder if anybody's ever pretending to be a disney employee like give people tours they're just a crazy person oh my god it's like somehow you just get the Mickey Mouse costume in there how could you well I bet there's so many employees how could you know there's a I mean you could certainly like sneak in and probably find a costume and like get into it and then just walk around Disney World and nobody would know Florida man pretended to be Disney World Stafford to steal a famous character police say oh so there you're on a heist Florida man always Florida man one year ago today oh interesting a man allegedly pretended to be Walt Disney World employee by wearing a name tag, work pants, and a work vest to the theme park in May. Florida man who was looking for a security job at Walt Disney World has been accused of stealing a character statue from the park in May. Wow.

[905] Archie D2 statue worth up to $10 ,000.

[906] Wow.

[907] Jesus Christ.

[908] 10 grand for an R2D2 statue?

[909] You guys switched to Disney.

[910] I found the story of a teenager who got access to two different.

[911] hospitals and bought a car for like $50 ,000 before he got caught.

[912] This says he just went up to the like customer service area and said he lost his badge and someone, a volunteer gave him a badge at one of the places.

[913] Oh my God.

[914] And he's in.

[915] He got access to all kinds of places inside the hospitals.

[916] Oh, my God.

[917] I don't think he did anything, but it also says he bought these scrubs for like 60 bucks.

[918] He had access critical care errors, including emergency room, intensive care units.

[919] operating rooms, uh, cath lab and even newborn nursery.

[920] Oh my God.

[921] So this fucking maniac was just around people's newborn babies.

[922] Yeah, I'm not sure what he was trying to do.

[923] Nurses became suspicious.

[924] Bailey went largely unnoticed and spent weeks hanging around the hospital from March 31st, 2022 to April 28th, 2022.

[925] Then one night in the ICU nurses got suspicious in the ICU.

[926] He was talking about his girlfriend and cars, just all sorts of stuff.

[927] And the more he was talking about, the more I felt something is not right.

[928] Holy shit.

[929] An unidentified nurse told investigators, I don't know if he was specifically asking for access to the computer, but he was just mentioning that he doesn't have access, and he was asking how you get access.

[930] Nurses found Bailey's social media account and realized he was not who he said he was.

[931] They reported it right away, and the teenager was escorted out.

[932] His badge was disabled, and the police got involved.

[933] It took him a month to figure that out there.

[934] That's crazy.

[935] A month of him just wandering.

[936] around what a weirdo he's talking about girls and cars that threw them off like what is what is he talking about it's supposed to be working why is he spending so much time in the newborn area just wandering around with his badge dressed up like a nurse did you ever see that there was like some youtube video like people realize if you carry a ladder into a movie theater you don't have to buy tickets like if you walk into a movie theater holding a ladder people just assume you work there and you just like these kids were just filming themselves going into places with a ladder it's like the ultimate key to get you in to anywhere that's so ridiculous dude i know it is ridiculous there's just so many you know levels of society that if you don't have any ethics or morals you can just hack it yeah so it's like just terrible really you've got this four main views you can walk in anywhere with the ladder as long as you look like you know you're supposed to be there don't stop you he's in a restaurant just walked into the kitchen five -star hotel no one stops him I see people doing this at the Oscars at different music festivals they just get the credentials and just show up and just find the right person that's a ladder yeah it's crazy we don't number our cinemas yeah cinemas are not numbers oh this guy just thanks to get to say out I just have a quick look in there oh okay Look, I don't know.

[937] I mean, fortunately for us, there's like lots of people who aren't, you know, false prophets.

[938] That was the word for it, false prophet.

[939] Like, I think that's in the book of revelations, the rise of these false prophets who, like, wear the costume.

[940] But they're the opposite of the thing.

[941] Most people I've met, like from the Ram Dass retreats and stuff, certainly my meditation teacher, David, Nick Turn, if you've just met him talking to him, you would never.

[942] know right away that he had like trained with chogim chumpurrimpa rimpashe one of the great buddhist teachers he's not putting it out there it's not like you know what i mean but then and other people at those retreats you forget like you'll meet these people who've spent their entire lives meditating like living in caves in india but they're wearing a Hawaiian shirt so you don't you just forget for a second like you're talking to then you realize you will realize because there is a difference.

[943] There is something there that's like...

[944] What's the big difference?

[945] You know, the closest thing I can point to is sound so weird.

[946] Like, the times I've been hanging out with you, every once in a while we'll be hanging out with a UFC fighter or, like, some weird, like, seal or something.

[947] You know, like, some dude who, like, is, like...

[948] Mm -hmm.

[949] You know, they come to the UFC, whatever.

[950] So you're hanging out with them, and then you realize, like, This guy is like, for someone who, like, could murder me right now is the nicest guy ever met in my life.

[951] You know what I mean?

[952] They have this glow.

[953] They have this, like, they're tuned in in this way.

[954] Now, I don't mean to compare spiritual teachers to UFC fighters, but I think what they have in common potentially is discipline.

[955] Like real, rigorous, hardcore, focused discipline upon some system.

[956] And with those teachers, man, there, there's this.

[957] this like glowy, non -bullshitty, very authentic quality to them.

[958] That inevitably you present to them something that's bothering you or whatever.

[959] And they have this way of just instantly shifting the energy around it so that you feel like it's manageable.

[960] Or you can, it's not what you think.

[961] You realize, fuck, man, I had framed this in this horrific way.

[962] And they just have this ability to shift that.

[963] Not like in a bullshit way.

[964] Like, always look on the bright side, kid.

[965] but a real compassionate way of like I feel like you do it to people sometimes like you see people and then sometimes people are really good at seeing people but they're not good at forgiving what they see or they're not good at seeing like there's a possibility in anybody to be happier yeah right and seeing that possibility they just see the shit that's making them unhappy you know and focus on that and and and those people are dicks but like some people can see through that to like where you you could be and they believe you could get there and they do it effortlessly because they're trained they've trained themselves and being compassionate yeah that's fucking incredible to be around that energy man i mean it's like a good feeling because like you know when you're doing it's not like you're all fake ha ha he you get serious you know there and there's a seriousness to it when they're talking to you when you're having that kind of conversation it's not like frothy necessarily and but mixed into that seriousness is like they're just trying to get through to you like to show you something right they want you to be happy yeah it's very hard to know sometimes like what if someone is being real or if someone is putting on a role well yeah yeah well you the the uh chogim chubhibhubhubhubhubhubhubhah would say one way you could know is it whatever the particular tradition is it's being articulated or whatever the thing is it should feel like fresh baked bread right out of the oven so the energy behind it is like does not feel stale musty it when you're around it it's like even though the traditions they might be connected to or old as fuck you realize like oh shit it's the tradition itself is like irrelevant like what the tradition was pointing to is outside of time and so you know what I mean so that that's that's where you when you're around it you don't just get the feeling of like fresh baked bread you get the feeling of like this is like cutting edge like you're around like really advanced technology like a feeling of like whoa this not only is this like right here right now in this moment but uh i've been blind to it like I couldn't even see it until like now I'm seeing it and then that idea behind that is not for you to go to them so you can keep seeing it the idea is like then hopefully that sets you on fire so you your life becomes something like within your life is an attempt to like kind of remember that or see it or like you know recognize it but this is why we need friends because you will forget it or I'll forget it yeah and we need people like not like hey you sinner or whatever but like maybe just in the way they are Yeah.

[966] People get very weird when they move off on their own away from their friends to some new place.

[967] Dude, yeah.

[968] It gets real weird.

[969] Real weird.

[970] Now you have your family, but you don't have any friends.

[971] Like, you don't know anybody there.

[972] It's a bizarre reset.

[973] Yeah, man. It's like it's fucked up because it takes a long time to have good friends.

[974] Like, you know, years and years and years get invested in like an informal way.

[975] yeah man and you you know that's the thing like you gotta this is a well they call it satsung is the name for it's like a spiritual community it's a fancy like word for a formation that appears in all things it doesn't have to be connected to some spirituality it's just like this energetic like affinity or happens between people and sometimes you'll meet people and you're like you know them right away you feel like you've known them forever like There's an instant click with some people, you know?

[976] That's the satson.

[977] Like, it's beautiful.

[978] And it's like, it's, it's a great name for a very normal thing.

[979] I don't think it's like necessarily crazy or like it sounds maybe I'm making it overly spiritual.

[980] But, you know, I meet people sometimes and it's like, I've known you forever.

[981] And it's like, we're picking up a conversation seemingly that we've been having for like many lifetimes.

[982] Just like that feeling.

[983] That's just because it's so refreshing when you meet someone who's genuinely engaging with you in a conversation.

[984] It's a thing that people normally do, right?

[985] You have conversations, but how many people do you meet that they're really good at it?

[986] And how many people do you meet that when you have a conversation with them, it's like really enjoyable.

[987] It's really, and there's a lot of like, there's a dance going on.

[988] It's not just one person just spitting out and you're just taking the, you're just taking the, all the details of their life's journey, like, okay, and then what did you do?

[989] Oh, wow.

[990] So do you talk to your sister still?

[991] Oh, you know what that's called?

[992] So where's your aunt now?

[993] Oh.

[994] Info dumping.

[995] Yeah, info dumping.

[996] Oh, that could be exhausting.

[997] Even when someone has a fascinating life, sometimes that's exhausting because it's such an attention hog of the conversation.

[998] Like, It's hogging up the whole conversation now because when you info dump, you know, your life generally takes a long time to describe.

[999] So this is like if we're here eating dinner for 40 minutes.

[1000] It's a speech.

[1001] Like bring slides.

[1002] If you're going to do that, bring slides.

[1003] At least like do a presentation, a visual presentation.

[1004] Bring slides.

[1005] Listening.

[1006] It's like when you get a like.

[1007] when you get around a person who's listening to you, regardless of, of, like, how good they are conversationally.

[1008] Like, when you realize someone's, like, actually, like, listening and, you know, that feels incredible, man. And especially when, like, they're mixed in with that listening is, like, love.

[1009] Whoa.

[1010] Like, it's the best.

[1011] It's the best feeling ever.

[1012] And even if, like, you don't, you don't agree.

[1013] on shit or you're going to get confused about stuff or whatever yeah man it's listening we just listening is like for some people it's like it's very difficult to dance some people suck at it yeah yeah they're just not good you know it's it's also requires concentration sometimes people don't want to concentrate or agenda yeah the other problem is agenda yeah so it's like you know I love chatting with you and like any time an agenda starts popping up in the midst of our conversation I try to banish it from my mind so I like pop back into the moment but that agenda when that creeps into somebody you can see it on their face you're like fuck man they've already decided what they're gonna say to me so why do I even why do I even keep talking and they're just and now they're wrestling with you like when people want to debate about things and you know that it's not really about the ideas it's about them trying to win it gets so exhausted it gets exhausted oh I know that people love to do that certain people that love do that like I don't want to do that dude I've done it it feels horrible yeah because what do you like any like especially in like an argument people you love some sometimes you being right it's like it sucks like great so now you're right right so now you're angry and right now what like now i'm now you're just angry and right no connection has been made nothing is like changed other than you are right and you're angry and that's man that's sad when anytime like you win that kind of argument it's just like nothing happened nothing changed the only thing that's going to save us is neuralink and once we get those things synced up and then there's going to be no misunderstandings no miscommunications and everyone's going to be held accountable.

[1014] There's going to be an awkward couple weeks.

[1015] When Nerling comes out, there's going to be two weeks of real awkward moments.

[1016] People find out how people really feel.

[1017] Like, all these dudes who, like, have these, like, if you're, like, an 80 -year -old guy and you're married to some 30 -year -old Instagram model.

[1018] Somehow you've tricked yourself and if they...

[1019] You might know what she really thinks about you.

[1020] Oh.

[1021] Oh, my God.

[1022] I don't really like rubbing cream.

[1023] It'll put gold digging right out of business.

[1024] Or they'll have to get really good at masking their intentions.

[1025] Yeah.

[1026] Or they can, like, assume a persona for a certain amount of years to acquire a certain amount of money.

[1027] Or at least, like, if you let someone come dig in your gold, it's consensual.

[1028] You're like, you want to come dig in my gold?

[1029] Right.

[1030] Come, dig.

[1031] It has to be that way.

[1032] I have lots of gold.

[1033] Once there's mine reading, it's going to have to be that way.

[1034] Yeah.

[1035] It's just like, hey, can I dig in your gold for a couple of weeks?

[1036] It's going to be one of those deals where, like, I mean, no disrespect to gold diggers or prostitutes, but it's basically prostitution.

[1037] You're doing it for money, right?

[1038] If, like, if you're some lady who's a professional temptress and you can cling to some 82 -year -old billionaire.

[1039] Yeah.

[1040] Like, that is a very good financial bargain.

[1041] Like, if you could somehow or another, getting that will like how's that work I don't know man do you love me or not so why am I not in the will when I tell you that I love you and you tell me that you love me where's what happens when you die am I going to be taking care of yeah Duncan yes yes I'll put you in the will my dear show me okay look show me show me show me there it once you show me gobble gobble gobble it was worth it especially when they're old they're like fuck the kids fuck the fuck the ex -wife fuck the shareholders I'm 82 I just think probably like if I was gold digging number one I would like have to trick myself into thinking I'm not gold digging to successfully execute a gold dig right like I have to so it's like yeah shit's rough man I've been able to pay my rent things are kind of fucked up I was hanging out with Bernie, he happens to, like, you know, he has a massive amount of money from his business.

[1042] And, you know, I don't know.

[1043] He just, I know it sounds crazy because he's so much older than me. But I feel like we have a connection.

[1044] You know what I mean?

[1045] You're right?

[1046] I know you won't understand it.

[1047] It's outside of time.

[1048] Like, the ages of just a number.

[1049] And so you, to fully pull off the heist, so to speak, you believe in what you're doing.

[1050] And because it's a human being, and because really, like, at some level, Bernie is still 30 -year -old Bernie underneath all whatever's collapsing around him.

[1051] You do connect to that.

[1052] Yeah.

[1053] And you do start loving it because the cognitive dissonance of being a pure sociopath is too much.

[1054] So a part of you falls in love in a weird, gross way that definitely would probably end the moment.

[1055] I don't care how many times you suck my dick.

[1056] I'm not putting you in the will.

[1057] But maybe while he's alive, it's worth it just for the perks.

[1058] I don't know, man. I mean, I'm sure you get a Ferrari.

[1059] I would love to hear an honest, it must exist, an honest story about a person who did that.

[1060] Because I could imagine, like, the beginning phase, you have this idea in your mind.

[1061] mind well really the fucking awful idea you have in your mind probably is that money is going to heal all of the emotional trauma that led me to a place where I manipulate old people for their money you know what I mean right then you get the money and not and you and then you're faced with that awful realization like oh fuck I'm still fucked up yeah he died I have all this money I'm still fucked up it didn't work and I and now I have to live with that I mean, it's really, really sad, truly.

[1062] But, I mean, also people, like, old dudes who have, like, you know, hooked up with camgirls, I get it, let them.

[1063] Yeah, I get it, let them.

[1064] But I get all of it.

[1065] Let them, let it, you know.

[1066] But what's interesting is, like, if a woman does, like, marry an 80 -year -old billionaire, and then he dies and she gets all that money, she carries that for life.

[1067] yeah like everybody she meets is going to be like she used to be married to and then when he died she got billions everyone's going to be like oh she's odd yeah this is a person that yeah she's a bombshell and she married some dying old man yeah it's going to be those people then it's going to be people who are like that was badass congratulations good job holy yeah there's going to be some people like that but that's just a narrative that's like a movie narrative like what you were looking at as a deceptive person it's like it's a weird con game that you do with people's emotions dude it's just you know man like fucking survival yeah survival is embarrassing so when you get scared hmm very embarrassing when you and when you get so scared that you you you're so consumed by your own fear that you allow it to control you to the point that you like become a manipulator or a con artist or grifter or whatever and like behind it it is just fucking fear it's like you know like you people get mad at the tsa it's like you can't really do much worse to the tsa than what they're already doing do you know how bad it sucks i am at imagine to like rub down people all day long you have to drive to the airport you're not going on a vacation you're going to like be rubbing the back of your hand against irritated stranger dicks all day long all day long and it's like if if a judge sentenced someone to that that's cruel and unusual punishment you would be like no you can't do that like that's inhumane so it's like with the this archetype of person man I think like the suffering they're experiencing the confusion the lack of security the uncertainty the realization at some level of their like inauthenticity that is a pretty intense punishment just by it there alone like what's your but is it a punishment if you don't know anything else because like if that's one of the things like do you remember when gary coleman was a security guard yes and People would, like, show up to his work and make fun of him.

[1068] Yeah.

[1069] No one would do that to a regular security guard, but you do it to a guy who used to be famous.

[1070] You do it to a guy who used to have something.

[1071] Right.

[1072] And now they don't, and now you can just throw rocks at them.

[1073] Yeah.

[1074] It's so brutal.

[1075] It's weird.

[1076] It's weird because it's just a regular job.

[1077] There's nothing wrong with having a regular job.

[1078] But if you had escaped that world, and you had made a lot of money and then all of a sudden you have to go back to it and have a regular job people feel like they openly could mock you yep very strange right very strange like ha ha you have to work right just like all of us you have to work like yeah it's work like what do you do it why you yell at this person right why you creeped this person out dude it sucks the Coleman thing in particular man I remember like hearing that And did you see the photos when he was dead?

[1079] He got a gold digger.

[1080] And like when he was married to this lady, she took a photo for the gram, like right next to his body.

[1081] You ever see that photo?

[1082] No. Here, see if you can find that.

[1083] Like, she took a selfie with, yeah, look at this.

[1084] So here he is.

[1085] She put that on her Instagram?

[1086] Look at that.

[1087] I mean, it was a while ago.

[1088] So I don't know what year we're talking about If they even had Instagram Like I get doing that picture Just because you want to remember someone you love Or it's sad or whatever I can't imagine Publishing it though Poor dude Poor dude Poor dude What a fucking rough one What a rough one man And it starts out with this amazing thing All of a sudden America loves you You're on a television show And you're the star Yeah Isn't that That is one of the wildest things that happens to really young people they put them on a show and they're a star and then the rest of their life is trying to like figure what the fuck happened yeah like what what was that what was life dude i mean this is the whole right now there's this huge uh debate over like the model of Instagram influencer that films their kids all the time.

[1089] Oh.

[1090] Right?

[1091] Like the argument is like, you know, if you want kids to work in the movies, there's all these protections from the really intense protections now.

[1092] But the Instagram stuff that you're monetizing, like filming your kids in some kind of weird, self -produced reality show, there's no protection for the kids.

[1093] Like there's no like, you know, I think child actors now, their money gets put in a trust, you know that so there's this huge argument right now over like is that even like should that even be legal so is this like babies that have their own instagram account or something like what do you it's a mode of uh it's it's like a it's like a i don't watch it a lot my wife's like tells me about it sometimes but it's basically a mode of like you know putting up youtube content so you're like parenting youtube channel you're filming your kids every day all day long filming them like sleeping feeling like This is a, for instance, this has happened a couple of times on YouTube recently.

[1094] Child abuse charges against YouTube channel Mom underscore the lack of oversight for kids.

[1095] Law insurers, professional child performers are safe, educated, and not working too many hours.

[1096] But they don't extend to stars of popular YouTube channels.

[1097] Oh, wow.

[1098] Yeah.

[1099] And so you have, like, really overzealous parents exploiting their children.

[1100] Dude, it's like, it's relentless.

[1101] And I think some of the kids are now like coming of age and talking about how fucked up it was like, you know, because it's like it's the birth.

[1102] It's their birthday.

[1103] And then the toys they're getting them, they're giving them for their birthday are toys that have been given to them by brands.

[1104] Right.

[1105] Oh, and so there's a video of them opening up the toy by the brand and that acts as an advertiser.

[1106] Yeah.

[1107] Yeah.

[1108] So the kid's birthday gets turned into a commercial.

[1109] What's that, James?

[1110] The story is fucked up.

[1111] I mean, I'm not going to share all of the details.

[1112] I guess, but it's not good.

[1113] Oh, boy.

[1114] Yeah, child stars of YouTube hit Fantastic Adventures, allegedly abused by adopted mother.

[1115] The children told police their adopted mother starved, beat, and pepper sprayed them when they failed to follow directions for videos, officials said.

[1116] Dude, I don't remember who this was, but, like, Aaron showed me. I guess, like, one of these people, and again this is second hand information I didn't read it but I know she's like seizes stuff basically there was some protection that got put in place where if you wanted to watch their video I don't know what it was like they were being demonetized or any their point so they were going to have to go behind a paywall and they were I don't know they were saying something about how like something about pedophiles Admitting they knew pedophiles watched those kid videos.

[1117] You know what I mean?

[1118] I'm like trying to rationalize the way they were doing it because it was making it harder for the pedophiles to watch kid videos to watch them.

[1119] Some crazy shit like that.

[1120] But that's the other really fucked up aspect of it is that when you have a huge audience and you're showing your kids in bathing suits, there is a definite percentage of the audience that are not interested in watching your kids Saturday barbecue or whatever the fuck you're doing.

[1121] Don't you remember when, like, they figured out a way in the YouTube comments?

[1122] They would leave time codes for when the camera was like...

[1123] Instagram algorithms connect vast network of pedophiles seeking child pornography, according to researchers.

[1124] Whoa.

[1125] Not to mention they're deep faking their kids, for sure.

[1126] You know, like they're taking the kids and they're deep faking them, and God knows what.

[1127] Can you scroll back up to the top, Jamie?

[1128] The top where it's, it's, so parent company Betta says established a task force to combat the problems.

[1129] And it says Instagram's recommendation algorithms have enabled a vast network of pedophiles seeking illegal underage sexual content and activity according to a Wall Street Journal expose.

[1130] In a 2 ,800 -word article published Wednesday, the journals said it conducted an investigation into child pornography on meta -owned Instagram in collaboration with researchers at Stanford and the University of Massachusetts, Samhurst.

[1131] Wow.

[1132] Holy shit, dude.

[1133] Yeah, man. Yeah, this is like, you know.

[1134] The fucking organized pedophile network.

[1135] Yeah, you really have to think when you're putting your kid online.

[1136] Like, regardless of it, like, whatever it is, because you have to understand, you know, you are showing pictures.

[1137] of your child to strangers.

[1138] And now there's technology.

[1139] I mean, they're already, like, you think they're just deep faking celebrities?

[1140] Right.

[1141] Of course.

[1142] And so, you know, then add to that the monetization.

[1143] In other words, so when you're making your kid and you have a very popular YouTube account with, like, featuring your child, you know that when you upload that thing, like, people are watching your kid and jerking off.

[1144] Right.

[1145] And these people maybe know where your kids go to school, where they live.

[1146] You know what I mean?

[1147] So that is an emergent issue right now.

[1148] For protection.

[1149] Yeah.

[1150] It's like one of the weird things as we approach the singularity.

[1151] It's like one of the weird cultural issues that haven't been dealt with yet.

[1152] Well, I've been very lucky to talk to a lot of people that were famous when they're young, you know, from doing this podcast.

[1153] Yeah.

[1154] And I've never met one of them that came out better because of it.

[1155] I mean, every one of them is just, like, struggling to try to figure out why did I get exposed to all these strangers as a child?

[1156] Yeah, yeah.

[1157] Why was I exposed to all that attention as a child when I'm supposed to be developing, interacting with people, trying to figure out how to move my body, how to talk, how to interact.

[1158] Like, why am I doing this publicly at six?

[1159] I mean, your childhood was converted into money.

[1160] Yeah.

[1161] Like they took your childhood, dropped into a money machine.

[1162] And it's like, and you couldn't consent.

[1163] It's impossible.

[1164] Your parents were so excited.

[1165] Well, the parents are usually getting rich.

[1166] Right.

[1167] And they're also saying, like, thank you.

[1168] Look at this life we have.

[1169] You're so talented.

[1170] So then if you start feeling like, I don't think I want to act anymore, I don't like this, or this feels fucked up.

[1171] or I just want some more free time.

[1172] All the guilt kicks in because you're like, I got to keep doing it.

[1173] It's keeping my parents afloat.

[1174] The whole lifestyle will collapse.

[1175] I mean, it's so fucked up to do that to kids.

[1176] You steal the kid's childhood and turn into money.

[1177] That's a great way to put it.

[1178] And then pretend that the child is complicit.

[1179] You trick yourself as a parent into thinking, we're all on the same team.

[1180] Isn't this great?

[1181] What an adventure.

[1182] And it's like, dude, I, you.

[1183] You know, my kids don't like it sometimes when we are just taking pictures, and I don't blame them.

[1184] You know, I hate it when people take pictures.

[1185] But, you know, any parents taking pictures of their kids.

[1186] But sometimes my kids are like, they don't want the phone.

[1187] And it's like, okay, okay, no problem.

[1188] Imagine all day long.

[1189] All day long.

[1190] Mommy's setting up another shot in the kitchen.

[1191] It's spooky.

[1192] People are so nuts with attention.

[1193] Do you hear about that one guy that crashed his plane on purpose?

[1194] For YouTube views?

[1195] Yes.

[1196] Like, he jumped out of the plane.

[1197] Highted.

[1198] And, like, let it fucking crash.

[1199] For views.

[1200] For views.

[1201] I mean, I guess when you're doing the math and you think I'm like to...

[1202] It's a deliberately crashing plane to get YouTube views.

[1203] So, like, this guy just jumped out of a fucking plane.

[1204] So, like, who knows whose kid that fucking plane is going to slam into?

[1205] Yeah.

[1206] Imagine you're hiking with your family.

[1207] This is amazing, beautiful mountains.

[1208] I love you so much.

[1209] And you get hit in the face by a plane?

[1210] By a plane that was like flown by a YouTube influencer.

[1211] Why would, I mean, you just ruin that plane, too.

[1212] Well, I think the calculation is he knows the number of views he's going to get on YouTube will generate more money than the plane was worth.

[1213] So there's a profit there.

[1214] Like whatever he paid for the plane is probably less than what he'll make from YouTube from that video.

[1215] And he got video.

[1216] footage of the plane crash see the camera on the plane it is so crazy we could do this now that we can convert our lives into money it's so crazy you could like just film yourself doing shit and then like maybe make so much money off of like just stuff that you know normal stuff so was this guy trying to say that he the plane crash happened with him in it was he trying to like fake that and they hike out is that what he's what he's doing Or did he like let people know that he jumped out of the plane and filmed that?

[1217] He said it was an accident.

[1218] That actually happened in 2021.

[1219] Oh.

[1220] And they just found out about the whole investigation happened.

[1221] It's cool, man. There's videos of pilots watching the video and like making commentary on why it's suspicious because like apparently you look at the plane and there's stuff that should be in a plane that's not in a plane, like expensive stuff.

[1222] Yeah, he said it just like the...

[1223] He was acting like the engine went out, and he had to bail.

[1224] Oh.

[1225] But he also then went and knew where it crashed and snuck back in and pulled the wreckage out before, like, the F .A. could go and investigate.

[1226] He pulled the wreckage out?

[1227] Yeah.

[1228] He says they told him to preserve the wreckage.

[1229] So he waited two days to report the crash.

[1230] I think he had already gone and towed out of there or something like that.

[1231] Huh.

[1232] More than two weeks after the crash, he had a friend and flew.

[1233] a helicopter at the crash site and airlifted the wreckage to Ranchos his squawk in Santa Barbara County where it was loaded onto a trailer attached to Jacob's pickup truck.

[1234] Whoa.

[1235] Isn't that wild?

[1236] Yeah, he unloaded it in a hangar.

[1237] He drove the wreckage to an airport.

[1238] He then cut up and destroyed the airplane wreckage and over the course of a few days, deposited the attached parts of the wrecked airplane into trash bins in the airport and elsewhere.

[1239] Wow.

[1240] Three million views off of that.

[1241] Yeah.

[1242] It's super normal to be just chopping an airport, an airplane up and putting in trash bins all over the airport.

[1243] Think of, like, your inner dialogue is you're depositing your plane wreckage.

[1244] What would you do to a body?

[1245] That sounds like he's doing to a body.

[1246] Yeah, it was.

[1247] He was just trying to, like, like, it's such a complex way to get YouTube views.

[1248] Like, it's...

[1249] It worked.

[1250] though.

[1251] It worked.

[1252] But now he's going to go to jail.

[1253] Yeah, for maybe a long time.

[1254] Really?

[1255] Like, I think so.

[1256] Many years he faces.

[1257] Holy shit.

[1258] 20 years for a stupid YouTube stuff.

[1259] And a penalty of up to $1 ,64 for each day.

[1260] He did not return something.

[1261] I mean, we do need strict penalties.

[1262] For sure.

[1263] To keep people from just, like, dropping planes out of the sky on us.

[1264] Yeah.

[1265] Yeah, you got a set of example.

[1266] for a guy like that and that guy could dude who knows where that plane was what happens if that plane catches wind that's so wild like flies into someone's house and then the guy's a mass murder when they were making YouTube in the early days I don't think they ever thought that like there would be plane crashes because of their technology I don't think they ever thought like this thing is going to like influence society and just destroy lives people are going to ruin their lives for views on this thing Imagine that guy had to plot out where the plane was going to crash too Because he had to be jumping high enough Where you can jump I don't know what that threshold is But you got to be pretty high up there Where you can jump And then film yourself Before you even pull the parachute Right so he's filming himself Yeah I mean it was a plan Like he thought about this So that fucking plane is way up there Way up And that sucker is How long do you think he flies for it?

[1267] But if you really, you've, that's a, he could have killed people.

[1268] Easily.

[1269] I mean, the assumption is no one's going to be out there, but I mean, that's a huge assumption.

[1270] Such a huge assumption.

[1271] You could hit another plane.

[1272] You could do, there's a lot of things that can happen.

[1273] Yeah.

[1274] You're way up there and you're bailing out while it's way up there.

[1275] So it has to be up there enough where you could jump out.

[1276] How high was it when he jumped out, does it say?

[1277] I'm looking for more details.

[1278] He just said he was trying to get a sponsorship deal.

[1279] With who?

[1280] better help who's the sponsorship with I can almost figure it out so I'll just let people look that up you can kind of guess it's it doesn't say the name of it though but what do you mean you can kind of guess it says it's a wallet company oh god Jesus Christ he's trying to get a sponsorship it's I mean this era of capitalism is so bizarre like so bizarre the way people are are manipulating the system or just the what they're doing wow just That's what I love.

[1281] Regardless of how, also, you have to, like, ethics aside, whoa.

[1282] Yeah.

[1283] That is badass.

[1284] Like, pull away the ethics.

[1285] Just look at, like, purely, what?

[1286] You, not only did you, like, fly your plane in the sky, jump out of it.

[1287] But, yeah.

[1288] He represented the United States and snowboarding in the 2014 Winter Olympics.

[1289] He's an Olympian.

[1290] Whoa.

[1291] And then he, like, put himself in the worst situation and managed to hike out.

[1292] and then, like, monetize it, dispose of the plane.

[1293] He has a friend with a helicopter who was like, yeah, sure.

[1294] I'll get your wreckage.

[1295] Fuck, man. That's, like, pull the ethics out, and it's like, what a fascinating, rotten dude, right?

[1296] Yeah, right.

[1297] Like, whoa.

[1298] He's got a friend with a helicopter that pulled plane wreckage out of the mountains.

[1299] He's got, like, those are, that's how you know you got a friend.

[1300] Yeah.

[1301] Well, you pay him a lot.

[1302] Right.

[1303] Because, like, was what he was doing illegal?

[1304] Like, you, do, there's probably some rules.

[1305] Like, if you have to report a plane crash, you can't just, like, take the wreckage.

[1306] I imagine there's enough, like, ways you could talk your way out of that one.

[1307] Really?

[1308] Yeah.

[1309] I didn't know.

[1310] He told me you reported it.

[1311] Yeah.

[1312] I didn't know.

[1313] Yeah, right.

[1314] That, I'm sure.

[1315] Yeah.

[1316] I mean.

[1317] I don't know.

[1318] Look, I don't know.

[1319] I'm just out here working.

[1320] Flying my helicopter around.

[1321] I don't know what's going on.

[1322] Just picking up a broken.

[1323] I am but a helicopter pilot.

[1324] Yeah, I imagine the helicopter pilot is like probably sweating a little bit, but he's probably okay, right?

[1325] Like, because they're going to focus on the maniac who flew his plane into a mountainside for YouTube views.

[1326] What a world.

[1327] What a world.

[1328] It's interesting because whenever these emerging technologies exist, like social media sites, where you can do things to get attention you're going to see certain people that they grab a hold of it in a very weird way and certain sociopathic psychopathic members of our society who go i know how to do i'm going to pretend to assault people at the mall or i'm going you know there's a lot of those that shit's so weird and they do it for and some of them get fucked up like they've jumped people at the ATM machine like pretend jump like give me all your money and a guy just beats the fuck out of them yeah yeah yeah I know I mean it's a prank it's a prank they always seem shocked yeah that's the like why are you stupid kids that have been living in the internet yeah I've seen a few I saw that like I think some kid at Home Depot just got slammed to the ground like you know they're trying to fuck with these like old but big people who are like definitely like the best part of their day He was beating the shit out of some little puke with a cell phone.

[1329] Yeah, maybe they're a year.

[1330] Yeah.

[1331] Boy 16 fatally shot during prank gone wrong in northwest Indiana.

[1332] Oh, no. He was shot and killed with an apparent prank gone wrong.

[1333] 16 -year -old was found suffering from a gunshot wound to the chest in the backyard of a residence just before midnight.

[1334] Officer began administering CPR, victim showed no signs of life.

[1335] He's pronounced dead at the scene.

[1336] police had the initial investigation determined the victim of an 18 year old were in the back the victim and an 18 year old were in the backyard with friends when the 18 year old pulled out a gun as a prank and it accidentally discharged striking the boy in the chest oh that's different that's different like he didn't ugh god god damn Jesus Christ it's just you know this technology man like it's just it's growing And we're like, it's been introduced to this population, this biome.

[1337] And, like, yeah, it's like any other thing when you introduce it to an ecosystem.

[1338] Like, it causes problems that you never expect.

[1339] Yeah.

[1340] Real problems.

[1341] That's a similar thing.

[1342] This guy got shot doing something, I guess, like one of these YouTube videos where they're fucking with people in a store.

[1343] Mm -hmm.

[1344] This is what I'm getting off of the video.

[1345] That was another guy.

[1346] He was fucking with someone.

[1347] That guy shot him.

[1348] It says he was harassing the gunmen.

[1349] oh boy yeah so fucking sad good night everybody imagine being a kid just trying to figure out what to do in this world imagine being a teenager and you're looking at all the different possibilities for your life as an adult like what are you going to do for a living yeah and influencers one of those it's a real that's a real possibility now yeah yes totally man I mean that yeah or like you know the other possibility the new job as prompt engineer have you heard that no prompt engineer is a name of per of it's like essentially an a i whisperer it's someone who knows how to tell an a i or specific instructions that work for some goal it's so generally like that's like art maybe like because you know talking to mid journey which is this insane text art AI like there's a lot like when you like the the amount of weird specific invasity involved.

[1350] Compared to $375 ,000 a year and you don't always require a background in tech.

[1351] Oh, wow.

[1352] That's the one offering 800K the other day.

[1353] Jesus.

[1354] Isn't that cool?

[1355] It's like now there's a job where you talk to robots, where you're better at talking to robots than other people.

[1356] That's a real job now.

[1357] It's, and God knows the other weird job.

[1358] By the time, like, you and I are super old man, like, what the shit everyone's going to be doing is going to seem so.

[1359] Yeah, and it's happening quicker and quicker.

[1360] That's what's weird.

[1361] It's like society is transforming culturally quicker and quicker, technologically quicker and quicker.

[1362] It's like it's going to make these giant changes that are going to happen at such a rapid rate that it's going to be hard to remember when they didn't exist before.

[1363] Yeah.

[1364] There's no time to get used to it anymore.

[1365] There's no time.

[1366] Yeah.

[1367] You used to have so long to get used to, even like stupid news, like the Roomba.

[1368] which was like remember when the floor robot came out everyone was like what the amazing but we had time before the next thing came out now because of AI it's working on things and solving problems so fast that like they already jamie did you see that thing it's uh it already like solve some big problem in medicine it's like it's already like figuring shit out that's going to have direct applications to a human lifespan curing diseases and that And the amount of time it might take to get to that point with human brains is way, way longer than the AI brain.

[1369] Is that the Faustian bargain?

[1370] Because in the process of giving up the way you source information to artificial intelligence, then just starts to take control over other aspects of your life.

[1371] Whoa.

[1372] Why don't we just do government?

[1373] We can do government better than people.

[1374] Yeah.

[1375] Did I have to be again so bad.

[1376] Yeah, me too, man. And we're back.

[1377] And we're back.

[1378] dude uh it's so hard to concentrate when you have to pee it really is it's crazy it's like you barely could form sentence it's like I don't even remember what we were talking about I was just like I had to pee so bad dude I love that we never remember what we're talking about it's and it really I think is it like irrelevant honestly ultimately because like what's on your mind right now yeah just what's on your what's going what's on your mind the second man it's just like fuck I just you know the fact that like this is a conversation in like the UFO universe that's happening which is watching all these like hardcore I'm still wearing a steth that's going I just realized that my thing fell off the like hardcore skeptics hardcore skeptics are now it's just interesting to watch and again until I see a UFO I'm going to be skeptical yeah super skeptical but it's interesting to watch the the gradual shift that's happening in people who are like big time debunking There is, like, not like, okay, I think they're real, and I don't blame them for saying it.

[1379] I don't think they're real because it's like, really, all your, they're still going off of, like, just people saying it's real.

[1380] But the fact that the people saying it, like Marco Rubio coming out now, did you see that shit?

[1381] Right, but isn't it interesting, this is my observation.

[1382] What they're saying is they talk to people who say this.

[1383] Right.

[1384] That's everybody.

[1385] It's including Grush.

[1386] Grush is saying that he has access to information and he was aware of information.

[1387] He was aware of things that the public wasn't aware of.

[1388] And so he wants to be a whistleblower because the public deserves to know about these things.

[1389] Yeah.

[1390] But he has no access to it.

[1391] Well, Rubio said he talked to people in the government who said they had firsthand.

[1392] Right.

[1393] Right.

[1394] Right, but he talked to people who said they saw the thing.

[1395] Under oath, though, right?

[1396] Right.

[1397] But where are those people?

[1398] Like, until those people are standing in front of the camera going, I was on the spaceship.

[1399] Yeah.

[1400] I met the entities.

[1401] They talked to me through telepathy.

[1402] Yeah.

[1403] I think we might be close.

[1404] They've got that hearing coming up.

[1405] And I know that a lot of the, or I like to believe that a lot of the sort of careful wording of things right now is to protect people who worry that they'll get killed.

[1406] They have a sense of like, shit, man, they're going to kill me if I tell you this.

[1407] But because he did it, I'm going to come out and say it.

[1408] And, you know, so I think they feel like, shit, we've got to be very, very careful to protect these people.

[1409] I don't see any benefit for any body in the government to go on statement saying that they've talked to people within the U .S. military who have seen UFOs.

[1410] What's the benefit there?

[1411] Like, if it's not true, you're going to look like the biggest dipshit on earth.

[1412] You're going to be ridiculed.

[1413] It's going to ruin your career potentially as a politician.

[1414] So I don't see much of a benefit in them coming out and saying that stuff.

[1415] That's the part where it's like, I can't trace how Marco Rubio, what's he going to, the next time he runs, he's going to be like, I'm the guy who got tricked into thinking there was UFOs.

[1416] Right.

[1417] Yeah, it has to hit sort of a wall of public demand, you know, where the public demand is like, hey, what is enough people are talking about it.

[1418] There's enough, whether it's Commander David Fravor or the New York Times article, Jeremy Corbell, all these different different.

[1419] different videos that get released where there's enough credible people talking about it that they have to kind of address it and if someone like a senator like marco rubio has a conversation with someone when they're saying yeah we have crashed UFOs and we have alien bodies and we're hiding it from the people yeah dude and then that where this has been going on for 80 years here's the deal if you are a politician and you realize we've all been briefed on this shit and it is coming out and it is coming out and And you other people don't have the guts to come out and say it.

[1420] You realize to be the first politician who came out and told the truth.

[1421] Now, there is benefit there.

[1422] There's a lot of benefit and the courage to come out and support whistleblowers.

[1423] Because, dude, I read an analysis of it that's so creepy because it points out that U .S. taxpayer money is being allocated to, if it's true, I'm saying, our taxpayer money is getting allocated to some organizations that are outside the control of the U .S. government, this is and has been doing it for 50, 60 years.

[1424] This is unconstitutional.

[1425] Like, you can't do that.

[1426] Like, what does that mean?

[1427] That means that there is a second.

[1428] power structure within the government truly like a secret something and that is like be like you you we're paying for it and if you're benefiting from the technology if you're selling the technology to private contractors and making money off of it like that like that's supposed to be for us free energy whatever it may be yeah so that is where it's sinister sinister well also imagine if you're the government imagine if you're let's say the Air Force and you have control over some vehicle from another planet where you have if the airport wants jets they don't make them they hire someone to make them right they have a military contractor that has all the engineers and all the expertise and they hire you know all these people that actually make jets right right they need a jet they buy a jet so if they acquire a spaceship they're not going to hold on to it themselves they don't have the people to fuck with this thing they're going to bring it to the people that make those things they go hey you guys make the stealth bomber tell me what the fuck this is right tell me what the fuck this is yeah yeah man and can we make one and if we can't make one can we figure out how it runs yeah at least tell us how it runs do you have any idea and I heard that like Jeremy was on my podcast was talking about how they um sorry they uh it's apparently um i'm sorry jeremy if i'm misquoting you this is from me obviously like so forgive me if there's a error in the way i'm saying it but uh it like it's compartmentalized yeah so some of the reverse engineering people theoretically don't even know that they're looking at wreckage that's what bob lazar said on my podcast he said uh part of the problem is like science Science can't exist in a vacuum.

[1429] Science is collaborative.

[1430] And the metallurgy guys weren't talking to the propulsion guys.

[1431] Oh, yeah.

[1432] Nobody talked to anybody.

[1433] You had, like, an area where you're allowed to go and look at the vehicle.

[1434] And, you know, you were with your other teammate and everybody reported on everything that was said and done.

[1435] Yeah, man. And it just, it was too limited for them to ever really figure out in his belief at that time.

[1436] So we're talking about 1989.

[1437] If what he's saying is true, what he was saying was that they were bringing him to this area and he couldn't tell his wife, he couldn't tell anybody where he was going, and they were flying him to area S4 where they had this UFO.

[1438] They didn't have just one.

[1439] They had multiple ones.

[1440] And this sort of aligns with what Grush was saying.

[1441] Because I think what Grush was saying is there's 12 of them.

[1442] They have 12, which is like, for real.

[1443] for real or is this are you guys like sending money to ukraine you don't want me to know about so you're showing me this like that sounds so crazy yeah i don't i don't buy the distraction theory because it's like man the u .s government's been doing weird shit with money but here's a distraction what if it's what if this is just an advanced drone program and what the uf's government is doing with his advanced drone program to to obscure it they just start releasing UFO stuff and having whistleblowers come out that are actually intelligence agents.

[1444] And they come out and start talking about bullshit programs that don't even exist.

[1445] Right.

[1446] And, you know, like, they just start fucking with the people online, which they've done with other stuff.

[1447] Sure.

[1448] I mean, if you look at what they did with MK Ultra, just MK Ultra alone, you should be you should go, what?

[1449] What did you do?

[1450] You guys set up whorehouses where you dose the Johns and then filmed them through through what is it with see through mirrors double -sided glass or whatever yeah double -sided mirrors that's the government your tax dollars went for that what kind of valuable research do you get from dosing up some plumber looking to get his dick sucked you know and give the guy a glass of water it's got fucking acid in it God and you're in the CIA now fun that is you're in the CIA you're in the CIA you're in the CIA you have infinite access to LSD they're just like letting you go into like brothels and like watch people fuck like wow well not on that you're a puppet master you're literally giving people crazy powerful psychoactive drugs against their will and you're watching them and you're learning how to manipulate people's behavior and that's the Tom O 'Neill the book chaos it's all about mk.

[1451] Ultra doing that with Manson and Manson doing that with his followers do you know the gifted and talented program conspiracy theory, it's connected.

[1452] No. Gate theory.

[1453] Were you ever in Gifting and Talented?

[1454] No. You know, it's one of my favorite current conspiracy theories.

[1455] And, uh, admittedly, conspiracy theory.

[1456] In other words, it's just cool.

[1457] I don't necessarily believe it.

[1458] But basically the idea, like, like the gate program, apparently, and I looked it up and it, there does seem to be some connection, was sort of funded by, uh, the feds who, like, Like it was definitely somehow involved with the government, basically not where it goes into conspiracy land.

[1459] The idea is they wanted to find people kids early on who demonstrated certain traits that then they could hire to work in intelligence.

[1460] It was a grooming program for intelligence, basically.

[1461] And so all these, like, and again, I just love these things.

[1462] Like, if they're real or not, it's still cool.

[1463] so there's all these like uh aspects of people who are in it like an occipital bulb like people who are in it like if you like they have this bump on the back of their head weird marks like sort of like when them navigation things or a serious xm radio antenna on your roof your car you got a fucking antenna back there is that what it is it's supposed to be no it's it's uh yeah it's maybe it's an implant.

[1464] Maybe they give you that implant.

[1465] That's where we go.

[1466] Oh, that's where it goes.

[1467] It's a good spot for it.

[1468] It would make you drink this weird pink shit.

[1469] They would like do this hearing test.

[1470] Yeah.

[1471] I mean, Jamie, I bet you could find the whole list of like commonalities and people in the program.

[1472] And it's like interesting.

[1473] Like the hearing they had to, you would have to do this hearing test.

[1474] Before you got in, you would be in a windowless room or a room where the windows are covered up with a dude.

[1475] giving you and i that's how i got in giving you giving you an IQ test the IQ test had the ESP cards in it along with a lot of other weird shit and then what would happen is because generally like smart people sometimes are our kids who meet these things are underperforming your parents are fucking delighted so you hear from school they're like actually your kid isn't a complete fucking idiot as it turns out he's got a very high verbal IQ and we think we should put him in this special program.

[1476] You're training them to be a Fed. Well, yeah.

[1477] I mean, you're not asking like, wait, what is the program?

[1478] Well, who came up with the idea for the program?

[1479] You're just like, my kid's smart.

[1480] Yes.

[1481] Put them in there.

[1482] They care about kids, Duncan.

[1483] They just want to get those smarter kids.

[1484] Yeah, yeah.

[1485] We're going to put a lot of funding to making them smarter and smarter.

[1486] And we're going to set up careers for them.

[1487] Yeah, right.

[1488] In Nicaragua.

[1489] And they'll never know.

[1490] They'll just think, like, when we came up to them in the college, they got a scholarship for that we provided.

[1491] And we're like, hey, we love your dissertation.

[1492] Can we talk to you about this really cool job?

[1493] You'll never know you've been groomed your whole life to be in it.

[1494] Again, probably not true, but interesting and interesting, like, new conspiracy that I like a lot.

[1495] It's really, it's really interesting.

[1496] I hope people out there research it for me because I'm so lazy.

[1497] That's what I, that's what drives me nuts about censorship online is that the really dumb ones, that are obviously not real, I think, are also amazing.

[1498] Yes.

[1499] I think they're fun.

[1500] There's some people that are just out of their fucking minds.

[1501] And then there's things that come up sometimes where you're like, wait a minute.

[1502] How did that slip by mainstream news?

[1503] Like, why is this not a subject that everybody's kind of tweaking about?

[1504] Right.

[1505] Every now and then, like the hollow earth one, I was like, that is so ridiculous.

[1506] That's so ridiculous.

[1507] but it's still ridiculous it's still ridiculous but then they discover there's three times as much water inside the earth than there is in the oceans i got so excited about that one until i looked into it what is it apparently the water's like compressed sadly into the soil in other words oh now i could be wrong about that but i can remember specifically the disappointment that swept over me oh i thought they were saying there's like oceans under the surface what i read is that a lot of the water they're talking about has been compressed into soil soil moist soil dude i when i one night when i was super high like i emailed a famous geologist because i just read about like the caverns under the earth and i'm like my god like literally there's like massive empty spaces down there bigger than the grand canyon like could that be true i just could i just still can't I didn't understand it.

[1508] And I don't know the answer for sure.

[1509] But, you know, so look, look at like we're studying the plumes of Europa.

[1510] Is it Europa?

[1511] To find organic life.

[1512] We say within the ice of Europa, there could be organic life.

[1513] Here it is.

[1514] Sometimes scientists think Earth's oceans formed when icy comets hit the planet, but new research suggests a different origin for the oceans.

[1515] They simply seeped out of the center of the earth.

[1516] The finding published in science suggests that a reservoir water hidden in the earth's mantle is more than 400 miles below the surface.

[1517] Try to refrain from imagining the expanses of underground seas.

[1518] All this water three times the volume of water on the surface is trapped inside the rocks.

[1519] Sad.

[1520] So in this rock is water.

[1521] So that's what it's saying?

[1522] a piece of synthesized Ringuidite the blue mineral may contain oceans worth of water in the earth's mantle okay but it's in the rock right so it's like it's not water stop lying that's like saying all the people on earth consist of an ocean of water because most people like what are we like 70 % water yeah right there's an ocean of water in people we just got to drain the water out of the people we got another ocean what do you say Like that's not an ocean You have fucking rocks You have wet rocks No one's going to your fucking article If you say there's wet rocks under the earth You gotta say there's an ocean There's three times as much water In these rocks as there is in the ocean Yeah but it's in rocks It's not water Unless it's water Like you put in a glass No Then shut the fuck up That's not water You got rocks But But Don't destroy this for me joke But Just Just think about the fact that life, life grows in so many places.

[1523] Right.

[1524] And if there were voids within the earth and there was like some kind of heat source, whatever it is, and it gets hotter down there.

[1525] And maybe some water didn't just make it into the, I mean, caves are fucking wet.

[1526] Right.

[1527] So if there were water down there, a heat source.

[1528] And also if there was like some flow of water seeping in from, you know, the surface, theoretically.

[1529] theoretically some life form could evolve down there just like we did theoretically it might not be like advanced like us it might just be some kind of like insane fungus my youngest really loves horror movies we watch horror movies together yeah and we watched the dissent the other day that's a great movie god damn i forgot how fun that movie is that's a so fun the dissent too kind of sucks yeah but the dissent one was it shit oh my god the setting oh there's so much It's much in it.

[1530] Appalachia.

[1531] The way they set it up, the movie, it's like, oh, right off the jump, they're like, oh, my God.

[1532] Hot cavers.

[1533] Hot cavers.

[1534] Hot cavers that fucking squabble with each other.

[1535] It's fucking great.

[1536] It's a fucking, I highly recommend it.

[1537] The Descent is one of my faves.

[1538] Like, if, like, it scratches a real specific it for me. It's like, I love Hollow Earth shit.

[1539] And then, like, it just, you've got - Well, it's not Hollow Earth, it's caverns.

[1540] It's like, it's, I mean, it's beings that evolved in those caverns.

[1541] I mean, there's a lot of a ridiculous shit in it.

[1542] Like, they're grabbing elks and dragging them into the hole and eating them there.

[1543] Yeah, the whole thing's so dumb.

[1544] You can't have a bunch of, like, weird, like, mutants living under your forest.

[1545] There's so many of them, too.

[1546] So many.

[1547] But I think it was, like, another senator talking about the possibilities what these UFOs are.

[1548] One of them said could be coming from an ancient civilization.

[1549] that's just choosing to reveal itself to us now.

[1550] This was a government official saying this.

[1551] Oh, I wanted to bring this up.

[1552] Michael Knowles, I didn't watch the video, but it was one of those things where the headline of the YouTube video, it's like on the Michael Knowles Show, it's something about aliens are, confirms aliens are demonic.

[1553] Oh, please.

[1554] Yeah, but he was talking to somebody that, like, I think he was talking to Lou Elizondo, right, who is a part of the person.

[1555] program, the A -TIP program, one of those UFO research programs, but there was this video about it.

[1556] Do I need to make a feature -length documentary called What is a Demon to teach Matt Walsh blog that extraterrestrial aliens aren't real?

[1557] I would watch it.

[1558] Hmm.

[1559] So Matt Walsh thinks, are the righties duking it out with each other?

[1560] Is that what this is?

[1561] I don't know, but please make the documentary.

[1562] He thinks they're not real.

[1563] So Michael Nolus is saying that extraterrestrial aliens aren't real.

[1564] He thinks they're demons.

[1565] Intelligence officials now confirm that UFOs of non -human origin have been recovered and studied.

[1566] At this point, the only reason to discount these reports is your own preconceived belief that aliens can't exist.

[1567] The evidence is really overwhelming now.

[1568] And he's not wrong.

[1569] He's not wrong, but here's the thing.

[1570] The evidence that we can get a hold of is all.

[1571] It's all people talking about these things.

[1572] Until it passes that, I'm on this, huh, I'm interested, but I'm not believe in you yet.

[1573] I know, if you know about MK Ultra, if you know that they did that and they didn't get punished for it, those people just died.

[1574] So what happens?

[1575] Does it evolve or does it stop, right?

[1576] Most things evolve.

[1577] Like most, when you go back to Eisenhower warning about the military industrial complex, like he was.

[1578] warning about it then.

[1579] It was an emerging thing and he was worrying about.

[1580] Well, that evolves to now control the government.

[1581] Right.

[1582] Right.

[1583] So does M .K. Ultra and mind control, does that evolve?

[1584] Of course it evolves.

[1585] It doesn't stop dead there.

[1586] No, they stop.

[1587] I was going to get people captivated.

[1588] Yeah.

[1589] I would start talking about all these things that we have, all these fucking amazing crafts that we've recovered, but not show you jack shit.

[1590] I have a lot of people talking about it.

[1591] And maybe this is just a preliminary step to showing you, the stuff.

[1592] Maybe I'm wrong.

[1593] Maybe I'm wrong.

[1594] And these are like real patriots.

[1595] I think the American public needs to know.

[1596] People have lived and died and not have this information.

[1597] And it's your duty as a patriot.

[1598] It's your duty as a human being.

[1599] As a citizen of Earth to let everyone know that we are being visited.

[1600] Also, you might be covering off for the military industrial complex that's figured out a way to make hypersonic drones that look and behave like something that was created on another planet.

[1601] I mean, yeah.

[1602] Because they funded these research.

[1603] under some guys of a hedge phone company and flown in all these physicists and give them a lot of money to shut the fuck up and top secret clearance which you can't violate or you get put in jail and next thing you know you're developing some sort of magnetic propulsion system that can rocket things through the sky silently, instantaneously.

[1604] Turn on a dime.

[1605] Yeah.

[1606] Well, you know, man, I think that some of what I know I'm doing with my skepticism in this regard is I just don't want to be disappointed Of course And I don't want to It's like I so will love it If my kids get to live in a world Where aliens aren't even weird Yeah And I want that world So So much that it's definitely going to give me some confirmation bias And it's definitely going to like warp Because it's so easy To see in something What you want there to be But I just I don't And I'm done But I can't quite access the benefit.

[1607] Like, I think there's other ways to lie about your secret weapons program than by, like, gaslighting senators under oath.

[1608] I feel like that is such a dangerous thing to do.

[1609] And so to me, it's...

[1610] Unless you think that senator is a dork, you want to get rid of them.

[1611] I'll tell Federman anything.

[1612] You always...

[1613] I'll tell them anything.

[1614] I'll tell them anything.

[1615] I'll tell him I'm an alien I'm an alien We came to contact you Basically had meetings with him He's an alien Fuck Fetterman isn't coming forward with this shit though man He should be He's got the information He's just a coward You think they told Fetterman Yes That's why he's pretending to be A person who doesn't talk that good Dude He has too much information The best way to like Not be credible Like I don't want to be involved Yeah, man I mean he would be a great person to like leak to you We told him Have you heard this theory Being talked about Are the aliens us UFOs may be piloted By time traveling humans Yeah I've heard that before I was trying to find where I saw it But recently like in the last few days I saw someone I think they were in the government Saying A similar version to this Yeah And that there is a date That they have been told And that if they tell everyone The date it will freak people out So there's a fight about talking about this date about when time travel gets invented uh no that they think that these aliens are whatever are us coming back to warn us and they're like this if they do warn us it could change the time and fuck it up oh about a thing that we might do yeah and they haven't they're very very vague and the thing i read about yeah maybe it's like ukraine i mean jesus christ but dude also if you do you see greta thornberg went to ukraine no to say how dare you did she go there to scold them No. She went there to be a part of the Illuminati.

[1616] They fucking welcomed her with open arms.

[1617] Oh, welcome.

[1618] They had a meeting with her.

[1619] Zelensky talked to her.

[1620] Holy shit.

[1621] It's just like, she's a kid, man. What are we doing?

[1622] It's so bizarre.

[1623] Did you have this strange kid on the spectrum that you fly around the world as the spokesperson for climate change?

[1624] And the strange part about it is it's like this is not a person that most people think is the person they want to hear talk about.

[1625] this.

[1626] No. Who do you want to hear talk about this?

[1627] You want to hear like a rational, educated scientist that's warning you about the very specific details of what human beings and our pollution is doing to the world.

[1628] Like here's, here's science and graphs and data.

[1629] Instead, you're sending a kid that like got famous for saying, how dare you?

[1630] How dare you?

[1631] How dare you On one level, not Thunberg, that's, I mean, the whole thing, the whole thing you just, the whole thing you just showed is like dystopian.

[1632] It's strange.

[1633] But, but on one level, I get, I know, I know that scientists are scientists.

[1634] Scientists are not comedians.

[1635] You know what I mean?

[1636] And I know that, like, many of them want to convey the shit they're discovering to people who, you know, didn't go to graduate school.

[1637] Right.

[1638] And they need a mouthpiece.

[1639] Like, they need someone to speak for them and they just keep fucking it up.

[1640] Mm -hmm.

[1641] Because it's like you, generally, like, the mouthpieces, it seems like they're condescending.

[1642] Like, you need a mouthpiece that's, like, able to be, like, to not make the people that they're talking to feel like they're being talked down to.

[1643] Right.

[1644] But that's how they hold authority.

[1645] The best way to hold authority is to make something.

[1646] on the defensive make them feel stupid for questioning this and it's how you hold that authority so is anti -science like and you know again you go back and look at like Tesla or fucking Isaac Newton what a lunatic he was a lunatic he had mercury in his hair he was studying the temple of Solomon you know what I mean in it yeah mercury in his hair yes he did and and he is what do you mean by that he would like when the hair samples when they did his well I guess in his laboratory he must have had mercury so he had mercury poisoning mercury poisoning and and this is newtonian physics and it's like this this is new look at tesla he's like fucking like on a date thinking about faust seeing a vision of like alternating current engine right these are the people who warped society permanently there was nothing tame domesticated or normal about them like imagine if you if like i invite you over i'm like joe come into my i want to show you something i'm working on it's you know the temple of solomon from the bible i think it's a code i think it's a code i could use to crack uh uh the the the source of all reality and i i feel like it has something to do with mercury i'm just not sure what so i've been pouring mercury on this replica of the temple of solomon you would be you'd be really worried about me i would be worried about this is Isaac Newton and and you know when so it's just weird this like this thing is emerged with the domesticated normal scientist or that like you know science is somehow like filled with just very normal completely professional people when the history of it seems to be littered with maniacs maniacs yeah and not maniacs who failed in their pursuit but using the system discovered truth that changed history forever it's really weird man it's well we always want to think of a person as only being the thing that is so egregious about them or bizarre about them but there there are a lot of things right you know i mean that like when they talk about like geniuses that also were kind of crazy and did something fucked up like we want to concentrate on that crazy thing like wasn't tesla in love of the pigeon yeah wasn't it wasn't it wasn't We're sharing about a pigeon.

[1647] We want to concentrate on the weird, you know, a social aspects of them.

[1648] They were all very bizarre and how they interacted with people.

[1649] That's right.

[1650] String of bad relationships.

[1651] They had bad relationships, Duncan.

[1652] And ignore all the shit that they said that doesn't fit into what, like, makes sense.

[1653] Like his debt, Tesla's death beam idea, the idea that he could, like, create some resonance and send a death.

[1654] beam to blow shit up or like that probably good well i mean you should see that i feel like we already talked about this right we've talked about everything they've you seen the myth busters where they make one of these tesla resonance engines and put it on a fucking bridge and they're they're not expecting anything happening and then the whole bridge starts fucking vibrating oh yeah like yeah that's right i remember that and they turned it off like they didn't they didn't continue the experiment because the bridge started like making some weird shaking thing and like oh well fuck Turn it off.

[1655] You know, man, I just think you're smarter than Tesla.

[1656] This didn't work.

[1657] This is just quackery.

[1658] And you just open up a gate to hell.

[1659] Do you remember the event horizon?

[1660] One of my favorite science fiction horror movies of all time.

[1661] It's a great movie.

[1662] It's about these people that use this time warp.

[1663] You know, they fold space time in order to travel.

[1664] And when they do, one ship disappears.

[1665] so another ship goes to look for that ship and by doing that you open up a gate to hell by doing that foldover of space time so you can get straight from one point to another point instantaneously far across the galaxy haunted spaceship you open up a gate to hell and so everybody has to deal with a literal hell like Latin speaking demons and it's a fun movie I mean which came first doom or event horizon which came first I believe Doom I believe Doom Because that's Doom Do you know where the name Doom came from?

[1666] No Came from the scene from the color of money With Tom Cruise Color of Money when Tom Cruise is a pool hustler And he goes to this pool hall And he's watching this like The number one player play And the number one player is this cool looking black dude And he looks at him and goes What did you got in that case Because he's got a pool case He goes in here, and he opens it up, Doom.

[1667] Cool.

[1668] And that's what Doom was for the game community.

[1669] That was Doom for the game industry.

[1670] What do you got in that box?

[1671] What in this box?

[1672] We got Doom.

[1673] Wow.

[1674] And that's what it was.

[1675] I mean, when John Carmack and John Romero, when they released Doom, I'd software, that was a fucking game changer.

[1676] Yeah.

[1677] A 3D game, first -person shooter.

[1678] You're running around and there's fucking demons and you're firing rockets at them.

[1679] It was incredible.

[1680] So cool.

[1681] It was incredible.

[1682] What a great idea, military attack on hell.

[1683] That game is so fun.

[1684] It's so dark.

[1685] See as you can find that scene from the color of money.

[1686] See if you can find it.

[1687] But that's why they called it doom.

[1688] And which one came first?

[1689] I don't know.

[1690] I don't know, but I love Do you're the first friend, Rise of 97.

[1691] The game, good game.

[1692] Here you.

[1693] What you got in there?

[1694] You hear?

[1695] Meanwhile, that is that cue that he opens up.

[1696] That's a production cue.

[1697] It's not even a great cue.

[1698] It's a Joss.

[1699] Ah, pool nerd!

[1700] It's supposed to be a Balabushka, which is a handmade cue by this guy who is the master of the great cues.

[1701] Like, when you go back to guys like, uh, yeah, See, that's, that's not, that's Eddie Cohen's.

[1702] Eddie Cohen is like a real, modern day, elite pool cue maker, and he made a version, like a color of money version.

[1703] But that's the, that's the cue that Joss made, and you could buy it.

[1704] It's not like, I mean, it's a good playing cue.

[1705] It plays good, but it's not a Balbushka.

[1706] Bala Bushka was a handmade cue by this guy who was a master.

[1707] Yeah?

[1708] Yeah, I mean, they would age his wood.

[1709] He would age his wood for years and slowly turn them down.

[1710] You know, you'd have, like, stacks of wood that had been air drying for seven years before you cut them into cues.

[1711] Like, his stuff was, like, it's like a violin.

[1712] It's like you're buying a Stradivarius.

[1713] Like, that's a real balabushka.

[1714] Dude, I just read this thing online of, like, coders making fun of the shit that pops up for, like, hackers.

[1715] Oh, yeah.

[1716] And because they know everything they're doing.

[1717] And they're like, you know, that's when you have very.

[1718] very deep knowledge or something because like in a million years I would never even think like I wonder if that really is a good cue that's that's a good cue to play with but to represent to have that say Eddie gave me a Balabushka and show that like blah that's garbage that what that was was they made a deal with a pool cue manufacturer joss which is a they make me very good cues don't get me wrong like Mike Siegel Mike Siegel is one of the greatest players of all time.

[1719] played with the Jaws.

[1720] I mean, they make amazing cue.

[1721] They play good.

[1722] But they're made it with a computer.

[1723] It's made, you know, with machines.

[1724] Right.

[1725] Yeah, the ends are rounded.

[1726] That's an old balabushka.

[1727] So what that is is a titleist.

[1728] And what a titleist is is a house queue.

[1729] So you buy a house queue.

[1730] And a lot of those really old house cues from like the 50s, they converted them into pool cues, like two -piece cues that you could bring with you.

[1731] And that was a very popular cue because it was a, It's a full splice, meaning the contact, wood -to -wood contact of the two joints is like it's the old method that they used to use.

[1732] That's cool, man. It looks like a very powerful wand in Diablo.

[1733] Well, it's like you were playing not just with something that played well, but you were playing with something that was art. Right.

[1734] It's functional art. It was made by a master.

[1735] It's made by, in George Balbushka's case.

[1736] you know some guy had been making them in the very beginning yeah and willie moscone played with one like the great players played with them but there's so many guys who make amazing pool cues now it's like it's really a matter of taste and most of the players in fact now are playing with carbon fiber anyway what is the like this is probably a dumb question because I don't know enough about pool but what like if two equally match players are playing and one of them has one of those and another one has just like a basic pool queue how much of an advantage would the person with a really nice none none no advantage it's all about the archer not really the the the the pool queue once you become accustomed to it you know what it does so like every pool queue has a certain amount of flex every pool queue has a certain amount of weight to it there's a balance they're all different, but once your arm and your stroking arm becomes accustomed to the balance, then it can accurately determine the amount of force that it has to apply to the ball in order to get the proper rotations of the ball for it to line where you need to land your next shot.

[1737] Right.

[1738] So it's a matter of making the ball and then moving the other ball to the other shot.

[1739] And any cue can do that.

[1740] It just, you have to know what that cue does, and then you have to compensate for what that cue does.

[1741] stiffer cues, have a different reaction, the more flexible cues.

[1742] Right.

[1743] Dude, it's such a, you know what, man, with pool, that's one that's got a golf, pool, it's got this like, oh, man, you could just see how, like, you would just, there was a, oh, I wish I got, it's so sad, I can't remember the name of this club because their greener was incredible.

[1744] Sorry, they have a pool table in there.

[1745] And, you know, like, we would fuck around, which was never fun for you, I'm sure, because I'm horrible, but...

[1746] No, it's always fun.

[1747] The, you know, I just found...

[1748] I see how addictive it is.

[1749] How, like, just learning how to do one thing and then you get stuck in this repetitive trying to get it to work, but it's so...

[1750] The difference...

[1751] It's mind cleansing.

[1752] It's like archery in that regard.

[1753] That when you're lined up on a shot, the only thing you're thinking about is that shot.

[1754] Right.

[1755] It helps me a lot with stress because I have so many things going on simultaneously that would require my attention.

[1756] That if I have an activity, whether it's archery, martial arts, or pool, where you cannot think of anything other than that activity while you're engaging in it.

[1757] It's very beneficial.

[1758] It clears your mind.

[1759] Yeah, man, I need shit like that.

[1760] If I don't have something like that, and it's such a relief when your mind gets grabbed by something, it's so great.

[1761] That's why video games do have a role.

[1762] There is a good role in video games.

[1763] The problem is they're so good.

[1764] They're so addictive.

[1765] They pull you in so far.

[1766] Brian Simpson was a explaining Diablo and he started showing the new Diablo on the screen and he's explaining how it all goes down and I was just seeing my my fucking time getting sucked away into this goddamn game dude it is it is I can't do it this is also like if you're into games right now this is like the apocalypse because like the new Zelda came out and then Blizzard puts out the new fucking Diablo and it's like they're both in their own way just spectacular and and also you know how to man if you've if you started with an Atari 2 ,600 and now you are like getting to interact with like technology now I started with Pong son what is this that's a cutscene cutscenes from Diablo a minute oh wow look at the cutscenes are just like a little movie you just watch a little movie you know I mean the game one day will probably be like this dude Jamie we I'm a spoiler spoiler spoiler if you're playing Diablo look at this don't listen Can you find the cut scene from Diablo where the dude is getting eaten by wolves?

[1767] Spoiler, don't watch this if you're into Diablo.

[1768] Wow.

[1769] Really?

[1770] This was actually uncomfortable a lot.

[1771] Let's end with this because I've got to get out of here.

[1772] We've got a show soon.

[1773] This fucking game looks so wild.

[1774] Right here.

[1775] You might have to...

[1776] Yeah, there you go.

[1777] Mephisto.

[1778] Diablo.

[1779] Bale.

[1780] Oh, God.

[1781] Only zealots and fools are completely certain.

[1782] If we are to be saved.

[1783] Oh, Jesus.

[1784] It will be by your...

[1785] Okay.

[1786] Okay, okay, that's enough.

[1787] All right, let's wrap it up.

[1788] Duncan, I love you to death.

[1789] You do the best.

[1790] You are to.

[1791] Thank you so much, man. able to represent science with you today.

[1792] Yeah, I feel like we did a good job.

[1793] I think so.

[1794] Hail science.

[1795] Hail science.

[1796] Bye, everybody.

[1797] Bye.