The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz XX
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[12] Why are you listening to this show?
[13] The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast.
[14] I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.
[15] In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
[16] I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
[17] That hasn't happened to you guys?
[18] I've done it.
[19] And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
[20] Andrew Siciliano is with us, and he's been one of the best for a long time, and he's joining us from Stanford, Connecticut, the Gold Zone broadcasts.
[21] These guys are raving about all the things Siciliano is doing.
[22] He is very much not in Paris right now.
[23] This is really this is really the outer fringes of the heights of sports media where he has existed most of my life, but Siciliano, thank you for being on with us.
[24] It looks like a lot of fun and the...
[25] Well, that room doesn't, but I mean...
[26] No, the room does not.
[27] The cover.
[28] This is a beautiful dressing room.
[29] Hi, guys, live from Sanper, Connecticut.
[30] We can keep the baseball talk going.
[31] I'm still a bitter Indians fan from 97.
[32] I can't believe Tony Fernandez booted up all to lead off the night dinner here and Jose Mesa should have closed it out.
[33] So I'm sorry about the Marlins.
[34] We can talk baseball with you if you'd prefer, but these guys are super excited about what you're doing with the Gold Zone broadcast.
[35] You guys are trying to do something that's more ambitious than what's been done, right?
[36] Yeah.
[37] So, I mean, we've done this, but not like this.
[38] In 2014, 2016, NBC tried this for Sochi and for Rio, but honestly, nobody saw it.
[39] It was on something called NBCOlympics .com.
[40] Still a great site, by the way.
[41] But streaming wasn't a thing.
[42] Peacock wasn't a thing.
[43] Like, watching everything on your phone wasn't a thing.
[44] And we had all these embargoes, like we couldn't show the gymnastics or the figure skating because that was, you know, that was, that was, had to, you had to keep that for prime time, right?
[45] And so it was a much, much different show.
[46] This is real.
[47] This is big.
[48] They built this fantastic studio.
[49] And everything is live.
[50] Drive it to live, live, live.
[51] And like on an NFL Sunday, we might have 10 games at once, maybe 11, week 18 when everyone's playing at 1 o 'clock.
[52] We could have 40 events happening simultaneously.
[53] at some points during the two and a half weeks for this.
[54] So it's like red zone, but like your head explodes.
[55] It's, it's awesome.
[56] What did the prep for this look like?
[57] Because for the NFL, it's the true American pastime.
[58] You know all these players.
[59] Your prep year after year is pretty much the previous year and you see some new faces and whatnot.
[60] But I don't know, like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't want to doubt you, but I don't know how much fencing you knew and and judah, who you knew and followed.
[61] I imagine you had to cast a pretty wide net to prepare for all these things.
[62] Mike, it's terrifying.
[63] Full disclosure, I still don't know judo like I'm watching it and I can't figure out what the heck is going on necessarily.
[64] I'm going to sound corny, but NBC has this amazing research staff that literally the day Tokyo ended in 21, they started working on this.
[65] And like I have notes here on cycling, judo, canoe slalom.
[66] Oh, man. What an event.
[67] The upper body strength is incredible.
[68] Jess Fox.
[69] You should have seen.
[70] Just Fox for gold.
[71] She was incredible.
[72] What a story, by the way.
[73] Come on.
[74] Did you see the 360 on 14?
[75] Mom is a legend.
[76] Move to Australia where her mom was coaching.
[77] Now, back in France winning yesterday, she'd never won gold.
[78] I still couldn't figure out what was going on there because, honestly, they just looked like they're trying to, like, prevent themselves from drowning.
[79] That looks like me in an undertow the entire time, but there's actually method to that.
[80] Water polo beach volleyball.
[81] Oh, water polo.
[82] Water polo, bro.
[83] Did you see Ashley Johnson?
[84] 12 saves.
[85] Two steals, brother.
[86] Plus 7 .8.
[87] Come on now.
[88] Come on, Andrew.
[89] Come on now.
[90] I'm learning it.
[91] Surfing in Tahiti where there's a 12 -hour time difference.
[92] Badminton fencing handball.
[93] Handball is awesome.
[94] We need more handball in the U .S. Like, can you imagine Tyree Kilt playing handball.
[95] Table tennis, rugby, like all of that could be on the air today.
[96] So I can't know it all.
[97] There's 10 ,000 athletes in 39 sports.
[98] I'm leaning heavily on the research department.
[99] I'm going to read something to you here because John Green, the bestselling author, is writing on Twitter after being on the gold zone on peacock for a single weekend.
[100] Quote, I've taken a lot of drugs in my life, but I've never taken a drug.
[101] like Peacock's Olympic Gold Zone.
[102] What a rush.
[103] I'm deeply invested simultaneously in judo fencing, gymnastics, and kayaking.
[104] Siciliano, have you gotten briefed yet on breakdancing?
[105] Yes, I have.
[106] And by the way, we saw that tweet yesterday.
[107] We have a group text.
[108] Everyone on the crew that went around.
[109] And somebody said, we're better than meth.
[110] And then the breaking bad gifts started flying.
[111] Judah, I'm sorry, break dancing.
[112] It's breaking technically.
[113] and you should get to know Sonny Choi.
[114] She's a 35 -year -old Estee Lauder executive in her free time, went to an Ivy League school, ended up break dancing when evidently out late one night as a freshman or something like after a few pops.
[115] And now she could win a gold.
[116] She is America's best shot to win a gold in breaking.
[117] And I don't know.
[118] Have you guys seen how this is set up for breaking?
[119] I am supposed to be our show's expert on this.
[120] I am not yet on time.
[121] You didn't give us anything, Dan.
[122] I know, I haven't gotten brief yet.
[123] You didn't tell me about the S .A. Water CEO.
[124] He gave us a flyer pick, I mean.
[125] Yeah, B -boys and B -girls.
[126] That's like the official name of the athlete.
[127] Like, it's not a fencer.
[128] It's a B -boy and a B -girl.
[129] And they're going to be like dance battles.
[130] It's a DJ.
[131] They don't know what music's coming.
[132] It's a 60 -second track.
[133] And then they're just like dance battles.
[134] I go, you go, you go, I go.
[135] And they're judged.
[136] Again, no idea what the music is.
[137] And even if you love it, and I know you're going to love it, it's not allegedly coming back in 2028.
[138] It's a one -year thing here in 2024 in L .A. I'm told we're not going to have breaking.
[139] Like flag football comes in and other stuff in 28.
[140] So enjoy it while it's here.
[141] They don't know the music?
[142] That's really unfair.
[143] From what I understand, they don't know the music.
[144] Like, what if somebody gets sailing by Christopher Cross?
[145] Dance.
[146] That would be awesome.
[147] By the way, that would be fantastic if they did that.
[148] I think at one point you were in front of 16 boxes.
[149] I think I saw you and Hansen in front of 16 boxes with video in them yesterday.
[150] We're just snorting sports right now.
[151] What is that box called?
[152] What is that box called?
[153] I don't know that.
[154] So Jack Collinsworth called it the Wonderwall.
[155] Little Oasis callback.
[156] We're not in London, but why not?
[157] I don't know if it has an official name.
[158] Hexadeca?
[159] What is 16, though?
[160] Because the biggest I've seen, on Red Zone, I saw Octobox is the biggest I've ever seen.
[161] Scott loved that.
[162] He had one of those yesterday.
[163] I don't know what the 16 is.
[164] Can somebody help me with the Latin prefixes, somebody?
[165] I'm going to say hexadeca.
[166] I don't know.
[167] I got it for you.
[168] It's beautiful, though.
[169] Weird being in the same room as Scott Hanson.
[170] We'll get that information for you.
[171] But weird being in the same room with him?
[172] It's different.
[173] Look, Scott and I worked together for, what, 13, 14 years?
[174] at NFL Network, but we never did the same show together.
[175] Maybe, like, he and I were talking about it.
[176] Maybe there was, like, a handoff from two different locations for training camp.
[177] Like, I'm in Denver.
[178] Let's go to Scott and Tampa, that kind of thing.
[179] But this was the first time I think we were actually on the same set at the same time.
[180] I know, like, sports Twitter lost their mind.
[181] And it was like the Red Zone multiverse.
[182] Anyone watching Dark Matter on Apple TV, which is a really good show, Joel Edgerton, by the way.
[183] Yeah.
[184] So it's like that, like Red Zone 1, Red Zone 2, like there were going to be like 10 other Red Zone guys running it at the same time in the multiverse, all trying to kill each other to get back to what's her name at the Brownstone in Chicago.
[185] Maybe I'm getting too deep here.
[186] It was weird.
[187] Olympic competition between the both of you, Andrew versus Scott.
[188] I would pay to watch that.
[189] We do it every day.
[190] So I do the 2 to 5.
[191] I'm sorry, I do the 11 to 2.
[192] He does the 2 to 5.
[193] So we do a handoff every day.
[194] No one's died.
[195] It's not like Anchorman.
[196] No one has a trident in the back alley in Stanford.
[197] And there's no fighting yet.
[198] I think we're okay.
[199] You're both exceptional at what you do.
[200] Nobody except for you two might know exactly how hard that is because it's a really unique job.
[201] I remember the people at ESPN used to say that the doing of highlights on baseball tonight, that that was the hardest show to do on ESPN because it's live highlights all day.
[202] Nobody but you too.
[203] You and Hansen know more than anybody how hard that job is or isn't.
[204] So let me ask you a question that is, I guess, a bit delicate, but I don't mean it this way.
[205] You're both craftsmen.
[206] You're both exceptional at what you do.
[207] Is there anything that you look at and say he does better than you and that he would look at and grant you that you do better than him?
[208] Okay, so that's a great question.
[209] I'm going to, this is going to sound like I'm avoiding the question.
[210] I've never seen his red zone.
[211] Because for 18 years, I was doing mine, and it's not like I could record it because I had direct TV, so I didn't get his.
[212] And so I would come home and the NBC game was already on, Sunday and that football was already on.
[213] And I know you're going to say, well, why didn't you watch last year?
[214] Well, a lot of times I was at Rams games.
[215] I did a bunch of Brown's games filling in for Jim Donovan when he stepped away for a little bit.
[216] the number of Sundays where I was actually home on my couch, I can count on like one hand.
[217] I've never actually seen it.
[218] I can say this, Scott's really good at what he does.
[219] Like as an NFL network anchor, he's awesome.
[220] And I always thought he did a great job with everything he did there.
[221] But again, it's going to sound like I'm avoiding it.
[222] No, no, no, no, understood.
[223] That makes sense.
[224] You had four chances to watch.
[225] You're avoiding watching the show.
[226] I mean, you had four opportunities to do so.
[227] Four chances and you declined each of the four times to do so.
[228] I think that is statement enough and obvious in how loudly it speaks.
[229] I'll say this.
[230] He's doing a really good job on Gold Zone.
[231] I am watching that.
[232] He's doing a great job.
[233] He's setting up all the swimming well.
[234] He's getting all the gold medal swimming.
[235] And so that's amazing.
[236] He's killing it with that.
[237] I will say that a lot of people miss you.
[238] And if you're a Siciliano person, you are not a Hanson person and perhaps vice versa because you've learned to be like your Sunday experience is unique to you.
[239] And this is the voice that is.
[240] you've ridden with for a long time.
[241] NFL network laid you off in April after 13 years.
[242] Did that hurt?
[243] Were you expecting it?
[244] You're a huge professional and you will have no shortage of opportunities, obviously, after that.
[245] Without getting into the contractual side and whether I expected it, that's a different issue.
[246] Yeah, it did hurt.
[247] I mean, look, you're there 13, 14 years.
[248] It was something you knew what happened one day, maybe not that day.
[249] I was not the only, person that day, however, that's been well publicized.
[250] So, you know, I kind of felt for everybody.
[251] There were a lot of us in that same boat.
[252] The business is tough these days.
[253] I totally, totally get it.
[254] I'm going to miss the friends.
[255] I made a lot of friends there.
[256] Thankfully, a lot of us still live in the same neighborhood.
[257] I see them all the time.
[258] Yeah, I mean, that, that, you know, was what it was.
[259] But I'm not the first.
[260] I'm not the only one.
[261] And it probably won't be the last time.
[262] You know, a lot of us have been told go elsewhere in this business.
[263] So I'll do that.
[264] I still love football.
[265] I'm still, you know, knee deep in it, still doing the Rams.
[266] I leave here in Stanford two weeks from now and then get on a plane and got Rams Cowboys the next day on ABC 7 in LA.
[267] So still keep it involved there and ready for the next chapter, whatever that is.
[268] Any blessings or learning in it?
[269] Blessings or learnings.
[270] Um, always, uh, always download everything you need on your computer because you never know what's, um, blessings or learning.
[271] No, it's not like I took anything.
[272] It's just, you know, you got to get ready for those things.
[273] Um, blessings are learnings.
[274] Um, hey, don't be afraid to do your own thing.
[275] Um, I think you guys, and I, and I mean this, uh, it's a brave new world out there and it could be scary, but, uh, you guys have built something.
[276] Um, don't be afraid.
[277] to go out on business on your own because sometimes it can be wonderful.
[278] I know it's not easy, but...
[279] Wouldn't recommend it.
[280] Yeah, well, but at the same time, do it, own it, be proud of it.
[281] And if it works, it works.
[282] If it doesn't, it doesn't.
[283] You know, there's some pride in ownership, I'd have to believe, right?
[284] Yes, absolutely.
[285] Oh, no, it's just very hard.
[286] It's much easier to have...
[287] Unlimited PTO.
[288] I mean, it's amazing.
[289] Much easier to have a safety net without uh of course with an employer much easier self -employment no totally and not to get too inside baseball here everyone said oh do your own thing well there's a million people doing their own show in their own basement right i mean everybody has a show in their basement these days not that you guys are in your basement this is a beautiful studio but you get my point you're in the basement sir you're in the big new world you're you're call it the gold zone but you're in the basement sir we're in Miami on the bay you're pretending to be in Paris when you're in a little in a dressing room in Stanford.
[290] As you said, it is very nice to be wearing a suit that somebody else bought and paid for.
[291] It is very nice to be in a studio that somebody else bought and paid for.
[292] I enjoy that part of the business as well.
[293] Andrew, we like to play a little game around here called Shop Put for your life.
[294] Okay.
[295] Okay.
[296] Ryan Krauser for your life.
[297] Really?
[298] It was Joe Kovacs or Ryan Krauser.
[299] You're going, Krauser, huh?
[300] There you go.
[301] Wow.
[302] Amazing.
[303] Yeah.
[304] Why not?
[305] You're prepared.
[306] You're good.
[307] Siciliano, we're going to check in with you again, all right?
[308] I want to check in with this dressing room occasionally during this.
[309] I know you're very busy, but if you have a time here and there to sneak in with us and do some laughing, we'd love to have you around.
[310] I'm here.
[311] I'm out at 11 every day.
[312] So perfect time, whenever you need.
[313] All right.
[314] Thank you, sir.
[315] You got it, boys.
[316] See it.
[317] It was Colin Farrell playing the penguin.
[318] What?
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[334] Don Libetard.
[335] I got somebody here making fun of me. How old do you have to be to reference Checky Green?
[336] Man, I went comedically there with the funny name of a comedian.
[337] That's on you for not knowing who Shecky Green is.
[338] You don't have to know who Shecky Green is.
[339] You don't have to know who Shecky Green is, but I...
[340] You're your ally.
[341] No, no, yeah, I don't like my allies here.
[342] The King of the Borsh Belt.
[343] Stugats.
[344] I have the soul of a borsh belt comedian.
[345] I should be in the Catskills in 1945 opening for Shecky Green.
[346] That's why I was destined to be.
[347] This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.
[348] When we talk, Stugat's about the mental strength of some of these human beings who are competing for four years to have, you know, in some cases, ten seconds.
[349] You've got ten seconds to be great.
[350] The mental strength that requires is fairly amazing.
[351] It'll test even someone like Simone Biles, who is clearly the best gymnast anyone's ever seen.
[352] You have all this preparation for this one moment, and you've got no idea what song they're playing.
[353] It's like, I've got, I think I got a couple moves.
[354] I know where I'm going to go with it, and then boom, you can call me al I'm guessing that that's probably not I'm going to say that there are restrictions on what the music is there's going to be a genre involved I don't think it's They gotta have an idea of the BPMs because you're like ready for like 115 and then although that would be a pretty fire routine might be the thing that I'm talking about those two guys when I talk about the mental strength this requires.
[355] When I opened the show talking about whatever it is that Michael Jordan had to overcome.
[356] And when I say that Tiger Woods tripped over something at the end, Tiger Woods, the rules changed on him.
[357] We weren't reporting about that stuff before Tiger Woods around Michael Jordan.
[358] We weren't talking about Perkins restaurants and stuff.
[359] And so what LeBron has done in slalom coursing through the 20 years he has makes it so that a lot of people react to how I opened the show with yelling at me, why do you keep philating this guy?
[360] It's always some version of this.
[361] It is amazing when you think about, you know, 20 years he has survived the social media era without, you know, without a bad story, without a bad off -the -court thing.
[362] It's not just pretty amazing.
[363] It's unbelievable.
[364] really is.
[365] It's not something that makes any sense.
[366] And we've been so busy.
[367] You're saying, well, Danny gets plenty of praise.
[368] Yeah, but we've covered him unlike anyone since he was 16.
[369] But as amazing as that story is, it was not even the most amazing story in American celebrity.
[370] And it's not even the most amazing story in American black celebrity.
[371] Snoop Dog, are you kidding me?
[372] How do you go from murder trial to you are an American mass?
[373] got over 50 representing hip hop still.
[374] Like, how is that possible that Snoop Dog is beloved cultural icon in every living room and he outlasted marijuana stigma?
[375] Like, he just outlasted it.
[376] Just like, just like LeBron outlasted Bayless, Snoop Dog did something better.
[377] He outlasted our repressions on marijuana.
[378] I'm genuinely curious.
[379] I want to look it up.
[380] Like, who's in charge of making these broadcast decisions for NBC?
[381] because they've knocked it out of the park.
[382] And I imagine maybe they had a lot of plans for the last Olympics that got impacted by COVID and maybe they couldn't do it.
[383] But I don't know if you've seen the ratings increase.
[384] Yeah, they've been great.
[385] It's up 803.
[386] It's up 83%.
[387] This is an astronomical number.
[388] To have 32 .4 million people watching your Saturday coverage, your day one coverage of the Olympics, is astronomical.
[389] It's bonkers.
[390] It's one and a half times.
[391] It's two and a half times.
[392] Caitlin Clark here in this country.
[393] Mike, how about meeting the moment?
[394] Because you just heard me lament and joke Gallo's humor with Siciliano about the difficulties in building a business.
[395] This is really an amazing time in broadcasting where the streaming services have to match our need for stimuli.
[396] They have to advance and evolve the product.
[397] It can't be the way that they used to cover the Olympics.
[398] They have to give you more.
[399] they have to put it on your phone, and it has to be impeccable from another country.
[400] That shit's really hard to do without rampant mistakes.
[401] Yeah, but even beyond the technological advancements and just the massive undertaking that this entire broadcast is, is decisions like putting Peyton Manning Snoop Dog and Kelly Clarkson on the broadcast, like nobody has a problem with those people.
[402] Right.
[403] An Olympic broadcast.
[404] Despite Snoop Dogg's past, like there's a reason.
[405] why he's on everything.
[406] Everyone finds him funny.
[407] Everyone likes him.
[408] Peyton Manning, everyone likes him.
[409] Kelly Clarkson, nobody has a problem with Kelly Clarkson.
[410] These are all decisions that they're making.
[411] But can I, yes, and also, murder trial.
[412] Yeah, but it's people, like, a lot of people are learning about that when you say it.
[413] It was like pre -internet.
[414] Like, no one knows.
[415] He's dancing with the torch and all of us were expecting him to light up with.
[416] it.
[417] And he respects, he respects our country too much and what it has given him to use that torch to light up.
[418] You don't think he has lit a single joint using that torch.
[419] You're crazy.
[420] I bet you was in his contract.
[421] Put it on the poll, please, Juju.
[422] At Lebitard show.
[423] Has Snoop Dogg used the torch to light a joint?
[424] Yeah, they have Colin Jose covering surfing.
[425] If you've read Colin Jose's book, which we were all supposed to read for the book club, and I was the only person that listened read it.
[426] And he had a surfing accident in which Jimmy Buffett saved his life.
[427] So it makes sense that Colin Jose is on it.
[428] But these are all pretty inoffensive people.
[429] I read like a totally overthought article on like the Twisters success and now Hollywood's like, here's a movie that everyone will like, including the South.
[430] Nothing political about this.
[431] Everyone's got a high Q rating.
[432] This is something for everybody.
[433] And NBC's really done that with their coverage.
[434] They really focus on getting likable people that are totally inoffensive.
[435] I enjoy watching how all of these entities in the modern.
[436] age of competition are going to fight to get our dollars.
[437] Deadpool and Wolverine talks about four quadrants of demos.
[438] R -rated movie never reaches that many groups.
[439] This is the biggest R -rated movie in the history of R -rated movies, and the last one was Deadpool at $133 million in 2016 because it's unusual to be able to get everybody inside of the tent.
[440] Did any of of you guys watched Deadpool and Wolverine over the weekend.
[441] I was really high poor.
[442] I got an opportunity.
[443] I'm not going to give any spoilers away, but it surpassed pretty high expectations, I thought, entering in it.
[444] And for an R -rated movie that breaks a fourth wall, and I thought it had a surprising amount of heart towards the end of it, and I really enjoyed it.
[445] And then my experience got a little diluted afterwards by the news of Robert Downey Jr., joining the Marvel cinematic universe because this was kind of posited as like perhaps a reset to the very confusing multiverse thing and it didn't quite do that but maybe it's a sort of fixing it but i love the movie great action great soundtrack great acting and chemistry between the the two leads it was it was really fun my point being that there are more and more ways for the system to get rigged by the people who know how to rig it to get us and manipulate us into the tent because they know the things to feed us.
[446] And the Olympics, the streaming bet that Peacock has made, they have poured a ton of dollars into getting into a game that Apple now, Stugats.
[447] I just finished presumed innocent.
[448] It was great.
[449] Bangor, right?
[450] Yeah, it was great.
[451] And I did think the ending, it fell apart a little bit.
[452] But Apple has only had Ted Lassow.
[453] They've had Blackbird.
[454] They are making big, giant things, and having difficult.
[455] for whatever the reason is having things that cross over severance, things that cross over, and a lot of people, you keep talking about the sixth episode of sugar, but Peacock...
[456] I'm not waiting six, I'm not waiting six episodes.
[457] That's the thing, nobody's got time for that.
[458] Mike is shocked by whatever happens.
[459] The end of the sixth episode is great.
[460] I'm like, okay.
[461] Guys, we're getting really close to me saying, all right, I'm going to spoil this shit for you.
[462] Because I need to talk about this.
[463] I saw it so you don't have to.
[464] No, just hold on to it for a second.
[465] It's Nour.
[466] He's an investigator.
[467] He's suave.
[468] It's interesting.
[469] It's like six episodes.
[470] It's too much.
[471] And then, nope.
[472] And something happens.
[473] It's not.
[474] It's Colin Farrell as not the penguin.
[475] And I just, I haven't done this in a while, right?
[476] Hollywood kind of closed down, obviously, and the content dried up a little bit.
[477] I haven't watched something the way that I watched presumed innocent in a while, where I watched it the way that I watch Ozark, which is like six in a weekend, seven in a weekend.
[478] Again, you just don't stop watching.
[479] But Apple is now cutting back on some stuff, even with all of the money in the world.
[480] Yeah, they've spent a lot of seed money.
[481] And I've kind of been astonished.
[482] I've only watched a handful of Apple shows myself.
[483] And my wife, for whatever reason, Apple, like, it works for her.
[484] If Apple's got a new show, she will watch it.
[485] And she likes pretty much all of them.
[486] And I'm just astonished at the budget and how well made these things are.
[487] but I'm also astonished.
[488] Like, does anyone know this is existing?
[489] Right.
[490] It's weird.
[491] It's weird.
[492] The amount of money behind that wall, it's weird that it can be a secret.
[493] And the reason why I know, like, not everybody's watching the art that they're making is, like, if you saw this sixth episode of sugar, you'd be talking about it.
[494] This would not be a secret that could be kept.
[495] It is so absurd.
[496] It's the craziest left turn of show has ever taken.
[497] And it's a well -guarded secret.
[498] because nobody's I'm the only one that knows I'm the only one that knows it Mike just told me what it was I think I'm in now okay I think I might have to watch a six episode you know what it is yeah but now I'm in but Mike's the only one willing to go to a sixth episode it's like it's like from Dust till Dawn if you didn't watch a trailer for it right and you're like okay this is cool wait vampire movie what the hell like that's kind of the turn that it takes also invasion foundation bro they got so many good shows on Apple Plus please give them a try today Can I criticize the Olympic coverage for just a second, though, because we're all sitting here praising it.
[499] I don't know what NBC is doing.
[500] Like, show me the games during the day, okay?
[501] I don't need to see a replay at night because I was glued to my TV at night, 400 free, one of my favorite events every summer games, okay?
[502] Because I wanted to see Katie Ledecki.
[503] And right before the, you know, right before they swam, my wife says to me, she won the bronze.
[504] And I'm like, what are you doing?
[505] And what is NBC doing?
[506] Are you just on the same?
[507] during the day, give me Bob Kossis at night running to the highlights.
[508] I mean...
[509] You're complaining about what they're literally doing.
[510] Like, it wasn't Kossis, but they were giving you the highlights tonight.
[511] Are you just grasping time zones?
[512] I am, yes.
[513] But Ledecki, I wanted to see that 400 free.
[514] Really, what I'm doing here is lashing out at NBC when I should be lashing out at Abby for telling me the results.
[515] Or lashing out at yourself or not watching as it's happening.
[516] Listen, I want Kostas.
[517] Run through the highlights.
[518] Give me the day's events.
[519] That's what I want at 8 p .m. Okay?
[520] In -out, one hour.
[521] I'm covered on the games.
[522] It's two guys's defense.
[523] They could put in the corner of the screen, this is a replay.
[524] Thank you.
[525] Somewhere for people who go to the club.
[526] Well, they kind of do, and that the live graphic is missing.
[527] So that's how I've pieced things together.
[528] But the re -airs do allow you to catch up on something.
[529] There's a million things going on.
[530] Isn't it called?
[531] I'm trying to follow all of it.
[532] It's hard.
[533] Isn't it called the Primetime Olympics recap?
[534] Like, isn't that like?
[535] Yeah, they're not trying to fool anybody, dude.
[536] Well, they recap it.
[537] Don't show me the event again.
[538] I think I'm watching a fresh board.
[539] Free, I'm not.
[540] Dude, do you think Katie Ladeki is going to be entering the pool at 3 .30 a .m. Local?
[541] What is this?
[542] The UFC?
[543] Never know.
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[558] Don Lebertard.
[559] Many of you, by the way, are writing in and you're saying, Dan, quit being so mean to co -hosts that you always deem incompetent.
[560] That's the formula, man. Me being mean to the co -host is what allows Stugats to take a very wealthy vacation right now.
[561] Stugats.
[562] It's a winning position for everyone but me. Have you guys not figured this out yet?
[563] That's the whole thing is me being rotten, straight man, as everyone else gets to be incompetent, and I yell at them for being incompetent.
[564] And here's the miracle of it, and it's the magic elixir, bad, which is the only thing Greg Cody can be, becomes good and lovable.
[565] And it's because standing next to obnoxious strident me makes everyone look that way.
[566] Yeah, and the brush with death helped.
[567] Yeah, that was planned by me. The whole thing was contrived.
[568] This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.
[569] So, we mentioned earlier that today is Stugats' birthday.
[570] Happy birthday to him.
[571] I don't care.
[572] Good luck.
[573] And now we believe that we give Stugats the greatest gift that can be given to him on his birthday.
[574] What could it be, Stugats?
[575] Do you have any guesses on where if we were able to successfully surprise you, it would be very exciting to you?
[576] Gummy.
[577] Okay, but that's a physical gift.
[578] How about a person?
[579] If we were to give you the gift of a person, a guest on our show, a gummy is the best gift anybody can give you?
[580] I mean, a gummy at a Monday, what is better than that?
[581] Are you kidding me?
[582] I would say in terms of people, perhaps, I don't know, maybe my dad.
[583] I have no idea who you're bringing on, right?
[584] Oh my God, I see him.
[585] Better than your dad.
[586] There is.
[587] Oh my God, I'm wrapping my gift.
[588] There it is.
[589] He could be your dad.
[590] What a gift.
[591] He is your doggy daddy on a Monday, your idol.
[592] I don't know how he would have felt.
[593] Has the word gotten back to you on Stugat's ransacking WFAN last week?
[594] Have you, you have received word?
[595] Mad Dog.
[596] Does Mad Dogg come with great praise and great pride for his protege dominating the FAN airwaves?
[597] Good morning.
[598] Good morning.
[599] We're happy to see you.
[600] Good morning.
[601] Hello, Doggy.
[602] Hello there.
[603] And happy birthday.
[604] Dan, how are you happy birthday?
[605] And I did hear some of his scenarios last week with talking about long baseball games and nonsense that he was spooing out with, I believe, Greg G .M. Adi.
[606] But most importantly, what number is it, by the way?
[607] May I ask?
[608] 52?
[609] 53.
[610] What number is it?
[611] It is 52, doggy.
[612] 52.
[613] Well, happy birthday.
[614] Thank you.
[615] How do you feel?
[616] Old, dog.
[617] What do you mean old?
[618] I feel old.
[619] You're 52.
[620] I know, but you're around dog you know how it is you do these things for 20 years four hours a day your brain starts to melt away my body is evaporating i feel old i feel like an old 52 i certainly don't feel young i mean i just don't dog i'm sorry but your mind is young you got dating with you yeah your show is hot yeah you got podcasts all over the place yeah you still you know you have uh other big radio stations wanting a piece of you on a holiday week as last week was to you yes i mean you've done And you got Christopher Rousseau, not that I'm out of big a deal, but you got Christopher Rousseau checking in.
[621] You got Stephen A showing up at Super Bowls to do your podcast for crying out loud like you did last year in Vegas.
[622] I mean, things are going well for you.
[623] You know what, doggy?
[624] I needed this.
[625] Thank you.
[626] And that's why you are the greatest gift that I could receive today.
[627] I needed perspective.
[628] You are right.
[629] Life is great, doggy.
[630] I now feel energized again.
[631] How about that?
[632] Here's the problem, though, mad dog.
[633] I'm going to knock him down here just a little bit as he feels better because he was just lamenting after doing four full days of morning radio that on the fourth day he was trying to hobble through a hotel lobby and somebody saw him walking.
[634] Dougie, Dan has said forever that nothing will age you, not being the president of the United States will age you as much as hosting a morning show.
[635] I agree with that.
[636] Oh, it's terrible.
[637] What time do you have to get up every day?
[638] It was like, I don't know, 4 .15 in the morning, 3 .45 some days.
[639] I couldn't sleep.
[640] I'm watching the clock.
[641] The clock is always chasing you.
[642] But I did it for four days.
[643] Perhaps I should have only done two days.
[644] But on the fourth day, I had to drive back up to Rochester afterwards.
[645] I get to the hotel.
[646] The sun's coming down.
[647] It's a bit dark out.
[648] And a lady is walking out of the hotel.
[649] And I'm hobbling into the hotel.
[650] And she looks at me and she says, Papa.
[651] She thought I was her grandfather, doggie.
[652] Oh, my gosh.
[653] That's how much I aged at four days into a morning drive with Gio.
[654] I mean, Papa.
[655] With your baseball cap.
[656] on and sunglasses and you hunched over that is rough and you have to be careful on those drives after you work because you could fall asleep at the wheel that's a long drive to rockchester for crying out loud you got to be careful with those kind of drives daddy's right no nothing ages you more than getting up and watching the clock if you can't sleep is an unmitigated disaster i sense that sometimes on the wednesdays when i get up earlier to do run into manhattan you are 1 ,000 percent correct but you were successful a big hit as usual and now you're back in your normal domain here but here's here's the thing though mad dog uh this is why people don't understand what a beast you are uh you were doing six and a half hours yeah he's doing he's doing afternoons though i mean different it is afternoon it is afternoons and it's different but you guys at the height of sports radio we're doing six and a half hours a day i think it was five and a half your stamina is absurd it's assinine Well, it's got a five and a half.
[657] Thank you for the extra hour, but it was five and a half, but that was still long enough.
[658] I'll tell you was the hardest thing you ever did was five hours on serious when I first got there in 2008 because there was no commercials and I didn't realize how much content that required.
[659] So that took a lot out of me those first five years.
[660] But Stu Garts is right.
[661] Not doing it in the morning.
[662] Dan, you know, getting up at 4 o 'clock to do five hours.
[663] That is freaking hard.
[664] Your day feels good at 11 a .m., especially on Fridays when you know you got basically a two and a half day weekend, but it is very tricky morning radio that length of time.
[665] Afternoons, you know, you can manage it a little better.
[666] You can, you know, if you can sleep the 8 o 'clock, it's a little different.
[667] But the grind of daily radio in the a .m. is a very, very difficult assignment.
[668] But this is a place where Stugats needs some of your efferves.
[669] forever youth.
[670] He got caught with his pants down last week because he doesn't care about Metz Yankees the way that you will forever care about Metz Yankees, that you're fundamentally incapable of not caring about the second inning of a Metz Yankees game, and Stugats didn't care about it the way you care about it.
[671] Obviously, Mets and Yankees played the two games last week, and the Yankees got swamped, so that's a bigger story, and Stugats is breaking down seven -hour baseball games without his phone on.
[672] Yes.
[673] Yes.
[674] That is a tricky scenario.
[675] There are things that you have to create content if you're on the air.
[676] If you're doing local radio and the baseball teams are good, you got to concentrate on games in July, you know, when they still got 50, 60 games to go.
[677] Anybody can do the football in the football season because that's a gift that never stops giving on Mondays with all the recaps Tuesday with the Monday night, Friday with the preview on a Thursday recap.
[678] You got the college football.
[679] Those days are easy.
[680] Sports talk.
[681] You don't.
[682] You don't.
[683] know, Danny, sports talk now has become a six or a seven -month deal with NFL.
[684] Once you get to say middle of February and to say August 1st, sports talk becomes a lot harder.
[685] There's no question about it.
[686] Doggy, my issue with what was going on in New York last week is I'm not going to sit here.
[687] Like sitting next to Dan has, I've learned some lessons and I've been armed with some perspective.
[688] And so years ago, I would have blasted the Yankees for having a bad stretch.
[689] But what are we doing?
[690] They've won like 30 World Series.
[691] The team is a game out.
[692] They're a playoff team and a game out in the AL East.
[693] And I have Geo sit next to me firing everybody.
[694] I mean, it's crazy.
[695] I know.
[696] I know.
[697] I mean, baseball in the New York area with the Yankees and Mets is sort of a game -by -game deal.
[698] And baseball is not a game -by -game sport.
[699] So you are 1 ,000 percent correct.
[700] And the Yankees just win two games against the Red Sox.
[701] They make the trade to get Chisholm there, which will help a little bit.
[702] him a little personality.
[703] Yes, I mean, I completely agree.
[704] Baseball is a tricky sport to go through on a game -by -game basis because no one game is that significant.
[705] So as a result of that, it's hard to get a read sometimes when you, like, when we do what we do, when we want to react to games, it's hard to get a read.
[706] I have been, you know, I heard you guys discussing the Olympics.
[707] I've been surprised the first three days I've watched more of the Olympics I thought, than I thought I would.
[708] And I actually watched the Djokovic Nadal thing this morning on Peacock, that Olympic second -round match.
[709] So I have been focused more on it than I thought I would, you know, and I know the time difference and I know what they do at night is sort of a review of the whole day.
[710] But I did watch the basketball game yesterday, too.
[711] So maybe that will carry us the next 10, 12 days if you're a talk shows.
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[713] Doggy, you brought up Nadal.
[714] Mike and I were talking before you came on, Nadal Federer Djokovic.
[715] It feels like we're seeing the very end of Nadal's career.
[716] It's been a great career.
[717] I think it's been 22 majors.
[718] Is he the worst of those three, which is incredible?
[719] The fact that we can have that conversation is absolutely amazing.
[720] But is he?
[721] 100%.
[722] Yeah.
[723] You know, that's a very good question.
[724] You know, Nadal looked old today.
[725] Didn't have the punch with his shots.
[726] You had the crowd behind him, too.
[727] You know, lost relatively easily at 6164.
[728] he has not been a factor for a couple of years now he's got 22 joker's got 24 and obviously Federer's got 20 it depends where you want to go the thing about Nadal that is a negative is Nadal's got 14 of his 22 majors in one place and that's in Paris yeah so he doesn't have the distribution of majors as well as say Djokovic does and Federer does his dominance on clay is unparalleled but he's only one two two Wimbledons, which is amazing when you think about it.
[729] He's only won two Wimbledons, two Australians, and he's won four U .S. Opens.
[730] That's 7 .14.
[731] I think I might be missing one, but the distribution, 14 of his 22 is in one spot.
[732] So that is a little bit of a problem.
[733] I'm with you 100 % on that.
[734] I would probably put him, it's tricky.
[735] Djokovic won.
[736] I'd probably put in a Federer 2, Nadal 3, but it's tricky.
[737] It's very, very tricky.
[738] They're almost all grouped together, but you've got to put Djokovic one because he's got three more majors than the other two guys have.
[739] So he's got to be one.
[740] It's curious because if they were all healthy and didn't have to deal with the injuries, Nadal at his peak was probably would lay claim to number one, but you can't separate the injuries.
[741] What did you make of Jokovic chirping back at the crowd?
[742] He is so excellent that he doesn't really allow for the crowd to get behind other tennis players when they play.
[743] But occasionally when it happens, see Jokevich lean into his natural heel self.
[744] And he taunted the crowd playing the sad violin after he eliminated their boy, Rafa Nadal.
[745] What'd you make of that?
[746] Well, you know, I don't have a problem with it.
[747] I mean, that's Jokovic's game set.
[748] He gets fired up when the crowd is against him, which is in most places it is.
[749] You know, he's not beloved like the other two are, and I do think that bugs him.
[750] He's a very good loser, though.
[751] When he loses, he always gives credit to the opponent.
[752] You know, he looked at it where he did at Wimbledon with his speech.
[753] He's a good loser.
[754] He can be a little bit of an annoying guy as a winner.
[755] Crowd today won in Nadal badly.
[756] You had to expect that.
[757] And he took somewhat offense to it.
[758] You know, I'm not going to go crazy there.
[759] You know, they're going to root for Alcarez, too, when he plays him here in Paris.
[760] But Djokovic, you know, it's interesting with him.
[761] He's in a tricky spot right now because he got ambushed by Alcarez at Wimbledon.
[762] He's 37.
[763] he hasn't he's only playing in one final this year he has not won a tournament uh he's only got this and he's got the u .s open i don't know where he's going to go in his career looks like sinners better uh obviously alcarez right now is better so he's on his swan song too not like nidal is he's got some tennis left in him but he's on his swan song too but that's what motivates him when he gets annoyed at the at the fog he always does at the u .s open because he's always been you know, not the hated enemy, but he's always been the villain, and I think that does bother him.
[764] He's sensitive, and I do think that does bother him a little bit, and you saw it here today.
[765] You know, he's got a good record against Nadal.
[766] You know, he's beating him now three times on clay.
[767] Very few people can, you know, three times at Roland Garros on clay, very few people can say that he's done well against him in other tournaments outside of Clay in majors.
[768] You've got to give him credit for that.
[769] He's got a winning record against Nanda.
[770] I think he's 31 and 29 and I think Nadal's a nine and three at the French Open.
[771] So I mean he is number one all time.
[772] Now, Hockeraz is going to be close to him on the road.
[773] My birthday.
[774] It's my gift.
[775] It's my gift.
[776] It is your gift.
[777] I'm talking tennis with doggy.
[778] Enough tennis talk.
[779] Happy birthday.
[780] We're done with the tennis talk.
[781] Matt, Mad Dog, I've got a question for you.
[782] You've had three portions of your career.
[783] And I want to know which was the most enjoyable and which was the most fulfilling, because those might be different, but doing, creating sports radio in New York, starting ownership of your own serious channel that now results in another three -year deal or the present renaissance of being on first take with more notoriety this late in your career nationally than you've ever had.
[784] Which of those three was the most enjoyable?
[785] Which is the most fulfilling?
[786] I would say the number three.
[787] You know, first off, it's current.
[788] So I'm more focused in on it.
[789] I probably didn't handle those 19 years with Mike as well as I could have as far as the dynamic is concerned with relationship, leaving.
[790] You know, I probably didn't do as good a job, you know, saying goodbye as I should have.
[791] The radio was hard when I started it serious.
[792] So I got wrapped up and doing, again, those aforementioned five hours.
[793] I think now, you're 64 years of age, you know, making the adjustment to going on there every once a week for a couple of hours.
[794] and sort of moving the needle, still doing the radio and being relatively successful with that.
[795] I would say, and, you know, just the overall last, you know, all the shows that you do and the fact that people that kind of discovered you this late in your life, I'd have to say now, you know, plus going high heat with the baseball, still doing that.
[796] I would say this aspect of it.
[797] I didn't really quite know what I was doing with the 19 years in this, in the, Mardog Radio, there was a lot of other people who had a lot more success with it than, you know, I had a lot to do with it as much as I did.
[798] And plus I was focused on the radio every day.
[799] Now I kind of can spread my wings a little bit, do two or three different scenarios, you know, seeing yourself written about in a Boston Globe, your boyhood paper, see yourself talked about on Dan Lebertard show, you know, having fun with Stephen A, having, you know, a lot of the current athletes.
[800] So who is this guy and then realize, you know what, he's better than I thought he was?
[801] I think today they're mad about segments, which, you know, gets some juice.
[802] I have to say this part of the career here probably, that's more surprising.
[803] So that helps.
[804] But I would think that would be a little more rewarding.
[805] Well, you've seen the industry change so much.
[806] You're almost responsible for how much sports debate television has become a thing.
[807] What is your perspective on everything happening between at first take and undisputed as you watch Stephen A and Skip Bayliss and Shannon Sharp fight, you know, at the top of sports media?
[808] Well, I mean, you know, I try not to look too deeply into, you know, the reasons why sports debate is taken off.
[809] I know Mike and me, you know, from a two hour, from a five and a half hour scenario for 19 years, kind of gave people the idea, you know, let's try this on TV.
[810] Let's fill the air time.
[811] You know, we did it on yes.
[812] So that kind of, you know, you know, we did sports talk on TV.
[813] that kind of gave people the idea.
[814] And, you know, Stephen A is a, you know, he's a huge celebrity.
[815] And, you know, he is omnipresent.
[816] He's all over the place.
[817] He's a huge figure.
[818] He can branch out into other sports, other things.
[819] I don't do that per se.
[820] I'm going to stick with the sports.
[821] You know, ESPN is where you should be with this because that's where most people get their sports still from.
[822] And I just go in there for the two hours once a week.
[823] and I try to have a little fun, make his job a little easier.
[824] So I try not to take it too seriously.
[825] And I think that, Danny, is the key with a guy like me. I think if you go in there, after you've been doing this for so long, and you sit there and you start taking yourself too seriously, you start thinking that you may be a little more important than you really are, that you're a little bit more indispensable with the, you know, when you're talking to people who are 30, 40 years younger, who are getting an idea who you are for the first time.
[826] Remember, I haven't been on FAA now for a long time.
[827] 15, 16 years.
[828] Yeah, that's a long time ago.
[829] So I think from that standpoint, I think that, you know, I'm sort of a breath of fresh air in a lot of ways.
[830] And I, again, I try not to take it too serious.
[831] They get up in the morning on the Wednesdays.
[832] I go in there.
[833] I make sure that everybody else gets a chance to shine.
[834] I know I got those 10 minutes at 11 .30 to do the madabouts.
[835] My wife, Rugg, kills me all the time for yelling at the camera, but they seem to like that.
[836] I come up with things that are apolitical because the last thing you want to do is being a situation where you get people ticked off in the wrong way.
[837] It's supposed to be fun.
[838] And that's how I try to approach it.
[839] And now I'll do it as long as the wave lasts.
[840] Danny, you and I both know, Stu Gotts knows.
[841] Sooner or later, the ride's going to end.
[842] Say, you'll ride it out as long as you can.
[843] And that's kind of my philosophy right now.
[844] At 64 years of age, 65 in October, how many people are, still doing this.
[845] You're not 65, Danny.
[846] How many people are still doing this at 65 years of age?
[847] Not many, Doggy.
[848] Listen, this was a great birthday gift.
[849] I appreciate you doing it.
[850] And I was thinking the entire time while you were talking there, how are we going to do better next year?
[851] How can we kind of do go above and beyond what we did this year for my birthday?
[852] And I was thinking, co -host with Doggy?
[853] What do you think?
[854] How about we do that?
[855] Yes.
[856] How about we do that?
[857] I love you, dog.
[858] Is your birthday actually July 29th?
[859] It is July 29th, yes.
[860] All right.
[861] Why don't try to figure out a way next year?
[862] Danny, you're okay with it?
[863] Of course.
[864] That would be delightful.
[865] Very respectful.
[866] That would be great.
[867] I'll make a promise to you right now.
[868] Yes.
[869] How about if you and I host, your birthday next year will be on a Tuesday, right?
[870] I think so.
[871] Yep.
[872] I just looked at you know that.
[873] Say again, Stugards?
[874] You're right.
[875] Tuesday, yes.
[876] Tuesday.
[877] Why don't we plan?
[878] Now, it might be the trading deadline, which you can't stand anyway with the baseball.
[879] But why don't we try to plan next year on a. Tuesday, you come up and co -hosted three hours with me on Sirius Mad Dog Radio.
[880] How about that?
[881] Done.
[882] Another trip.
[883] I thought it was going to be here.
[884] I thought that that was going to be here.
[885] I didn't think that you guys were doing it there.
[886] I thought.
[887] Danny, we have a studio down in Miami.
[888] How about if I go down there and do it?
[889] That one, that's what I thought.
[890] I wanted to go up there, though.
[891] I mean, it's hot out here, don't.
[892] That is a beautiful studio.
[893] I've seen that Conan O 'Brien did some stuff out of there.
[894] Howard Stern does some stuff out of there.
[895] Before you get out of here real quick though you say you're apolitical i want to hear a politics show with man dog at least in part because of how he pronounces uh the names of politicians barric obama oh i'm terrible with that the barric obama was a bad one what about this one which one's worse barric obama or this one uh candelaus or rice the rice one is worse you're funny danny you're funny the rice one is the right spot is wrong.
[896] Do you want to try her name here again or without us giving you a hint on how to pronounce it or does that put you in a bad spot?
[897] Condoleza.
[898] Condi, doggy.
[899] It's a very good condi.
[900] Condi.
[901] Part of the committee.
[902] It's sports now.
[903] You don't want to try Kamala, do you?
[904] Are you scared of that one?
[905] Oh, no. Kamala.
[906] Yeah, I got that wrong last week, too.
[907] I get Donald Trump pronounced right.
[908] Kamala, Kamala Harris.
[909] Yes.
[910] I actually did some politics last week.
[911] I did a guy, an historian for the Lyndon Johnson Museum down there in Austin, Texas to compare those speeches with Johnson resigning in 68 with the nomination.
[912] So I try to dabble in it a little bit.
[913] But again, as I said to you, Dan, this is a lesson for your little buddy right next to you there on his birthday.
[914] Stay in your lane.
[915] That's the key for me. Mad Dogg, good seeing you.
[916] Thank you, sir.
[917] Good job, boys.
[918] Always nice seeing you.
[919] Thank you, doggy.
[920] Another happy birthday.
[921] See you, buddy.
[922] Happy birthday to him!
[923] I don't care!
[924] Good luck!
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