#517 - Crash, from Float Lab (Part 2)

[0] round two you dirty freaks you stream dot tv forward slash joe ral all right we're back um so crash you've been doing this you've been this tank business longer than did i fuck that up no i didn't you've been in this tank business longer than i've known you you when did you get started making these fucking things um it's about 15 years at 99 and what what what brought you into that well yeah i think it was with me i was ready to you know i used to have I used to have nightclubs and I was into the music industry and I had, you know, narcotics.

[1] I was into drugs and stuff.

[2] I like to do that for, you know, but it was the time was in, you know, in the 80s and stuff and there's a music industry.

[3] We used to have nightclubs.

[4] I used to do management and then I wanted to do an audio later on.

[5] Back in the 70s, where Stevie Ray Vaughn and stuff like that, blues clubs in D .C., and then we went on like in the 80s and had like a, you know, culture club, the arrhyth, and I worked with Count Bass.

[6] And then later on, I went into the audio at Cesar's.

[7] I worked in the showroom in there, and I worked at Liberace, and on and on.

[8] It was in a different genre, whatever, you know, shows from, then I, we used to tour, you know, a little bit, and then these gigs, and then I got a band going there, and we used to open up for one of the bands I was touring with, and then we said, great.

[9] So I got interested in, like, oh, now we were to make some, be in this make, doing music, and got these studios, and had 60 of those in Hollywood, and then finally, I was done, you know, I had enough of these people.

[10] I just strung out on heroin and, you know, I used to do it.

[11] So I've had it, I'm not functional though.

[12] I'm not a stealer.

[13] I don't steal.

[14] I'm a functioning guy back then and I don't steal and I work and I do jobs, but I used to get, I used to like to really get high.

[15] You know, I was part of what we did.

[16] Right.

[17] But so I was finally done with that.

[18] And I kicked the dope whenever and went out there to Vegas from Hollywood, left my buildings.

[19] And I built a recording store.

[20] I got a ranch out there, 10 miles south of town, build a studio in there.

[21] I had my guys come out.

[22] We're going to do some recording out there at this ranch I got there.

[23] And I'm in the back there.

[24] I just built it.

[25] I had my head now.

[26] There was like an old water thing from what the horses were getting water from or whatever it was.

[27] I had my head in there, and I was working on my voice.

[28] And when I pulled my head out, all of a sudden I know I'm supposed to build these deprivation chambers.

[29] I don't even know what is a deprivation chamber.

[30] So you had like this idea.

[31] Jamie, can you take this down off?

[32] Just go with the screen so we could just.

[33] see those photos that were wrong before.

[34] I get distracted sometimes.

[35] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[36] So you just out of nowhere had this idea to build.

[37] It wasn't even an idea.

[38] It wasn't an idea because I didn't even know what it was.

[39] So it just hit you information.

[40] And it wasn't like a voice, a light, or nothing.

[41] It was just all of a sudden I had my head in that thing.

[42] And when I pulled my head out, I knew I'm supposed to build deprivation chambers and get ever people to do it.

[43] I don't know what is a deprivation chamber or nothing.

[44] I just built a recording studio.

[45] I got no interest.

[46] I'm already doing what I want to do.

[47] I don't need a change of life or I've quit doing what it was that was holding me up, you know, so I was on my path already, but it hit me so hard.

[48] And at that moment, I was relieved of all my previous, you know, like I had a, you know, you think back and say, oh, I used to have this, I used to have that.

[49] I'd build empires and then collapse them over the years.

[50] You know, I'd worked, worked really hard.

[51] And then because of too much fun, wrecked it every time, you know, so I'd been through, and at that point in my life, it's thinking, bummer, you know, I kept thinking about now I'm starting over again and whatever.

[52] And at the moment when I pull my hand out of there, this no longer affected me at all.

[53] None of my past was no...

[54] So you lean into this thing that they used to hold water?

[55] Hold water for animals.

[56] Horses probably.

[57] And you're looking in there and you pull your head out and all of a sudden you have this mandate.

[58] You have to build sensory deprivation tanks.

[59] So you essentially got a message from God.

[60] I don't believe in God.

[61] Listen, pal.

[62] He was talking to him.

[63] If it wasn't God, who was it?

[64] Was it all?

[65] I don't believe in anything.

[66] I don't know what it was.

[67] I'm confused.

[68] It does indicate.

[69] though, some sort of superior intellect.

[70] But think about the chain of events that happened, though.

[71] You create that thing.

[72] You know, you improve upon the existing dynamic, the existing design, rather, in a substantial way.

[73] You become obsessed with it.

[74] You and I get hooked up.

[75] We make videos about it.

[76] We start putting it out.

[77] You're doing a podcast now.

[78] More people are finding out about it.

[79] More people are opening these centers.

[80] I get, every time I go to a town, like it seems if it's town that has a sensory deprivation tank, I get these offers to come stop by and check them out and people say, hey, we started doing it because we heard about it on the podcast.

[81] It's a great way to make a living.

[82] We love floating.

[83] We love the benefits of it.

[84] We just want to thank you so much.

[85] That happens all the time.

[86] You're in the movie, man. You're in the movie.

[87] What happened happened?

[88] And what's going to happen is yet to be.

[89] Because what's coming up still is much larger than what's happened so far.

[90] With tanks.

[91] With these chambers, right.

[92] You think they're going to be everywhere.

[93] I don't think so.

[94] I'm pretty well sure of it at this point because I have a realistic vision of the situation.

[95] And I'm convinced at this point that indeed it is going to work.

[96] And I don't know how it all is going to turn out, of course, but I think that we're having a chance now.

[97] And that's why this situation is so important to me, this disinfection and this electrical and all these features.

[98] that have to do with health and safety.

[99] So this can become a safe, healthy, and a...

[100] Just like restaurants, just like anything else that involves cleanliness.

[101] This is very important.

[102] It's a public service.

[103] And then for you, what's important is that it protects the benefits of this service where all of the negative aspects of it are eliminated with foresight.

[104] You're thinking about it in advance.

[105] And I think that's super important.

[106] And I really commend you on that.

[107] And you also have these really fascinating ideas about, how to go about that.

[108] I mean, your systems, the cleanliness and all of the ozone, the filters, and the, the, the, the sensitivity of the filters.

[109] It's all incredible stuff, incredibly detailed stuff.

[110] Yeah, we've spent a lot of time keeping getting better.

[111] We're just now finishing up with a whole another bunch of stuff, too, that it's one thing after the next thing.

[112] See, when I first started this, I was using a part from, you know, this or that or whatever.

[113] There was, like, no parts for anything that you were trying to make.

[114] So you had to, like, really try to figure out how to improvise.

[115] whereas now though all of every single component that we use is made for us we have very specific providers of all of this stuff that we've refined over the years these containers everything it's all very specific because there's an unbelievable amount of problem what's that term bespoke right the custom made is that what bespoke is all i believe that is we learned placate in the last one no no i want to learn bespoke we're going to loan bespoke right the custom made is that's all i believe that is we learned placate in the last one no no i want to learn bespoke we're going to loan bespoke right Yeah, I'm pretty sport.

[116] That's what it means.

[117] Made to order.

[118] Made to order, right.

[119] Yeah, so essentially these parts and components did not exist until you came along and designed these new devices for chambers to keep them clear.

[120] And then figured out how to get them all to work together.

[121] Yeah.

[122] It's been, you know, to get it to go on, you get it off, all the electrical.

[123] I mean, it's been a, it's been fun, you know.

[124] It's getting like to the point now to we're glad that we finally are on the other side of all this stuff and that it's a valid system, that the system now demands acknowledgement.

[125] We put it in there, and they can't say, hey, you can't do this here.

[126] That's not true.

[127] We could put one of our devices anywhere, and the authorities will allow it because it's done to code.

[128] That's why when these places they're trying to get through these trouble, they're looking for an exemption or a – was the other word they got very – variance, these different things they try to get.

[129] Also, it's not a swimming pool, so you don't have to have any code or whatever.

[130] These things aren't cool.

[131] And swimming pools have code?

[132] Right.

[133] And because this isn't a pool doesn't mean it shouldn't have code.

[134] That just means it should have a set of codes that are specifically designed for this environment, which is what this stuff is here.

[135] This CCS standard here that we have, you see, it's all that stuff there.

[136] And you read through this.

[137] and this is the reality of the direction that the industry is going in, that the authorities are aware, and they're not stupid.

[138] They understand what liability is.

[139] They can't say, hey, go ahead, it's okay.

[140] We don't care.

[141] They can't turn a blind eye on this anymore because it's been brought to their attention now.

[142] Well, it's also been brought to their attention that there's a lot going on right now where people are being investigated for things like the Dr. Oz stuff.

[143] He's got all this weight loss shit that's out there and all this self -help industry.

[144] like things along the lines of isolation tanks, it could be incredibly damaging if these things become as popular as you and I think they will be, and the filtration systems aren't good, and people have nightmare stories.

[145] Exactly, it won't survive.

[146] It won't survive.

[147] That's what happened when they have the AIDS.

[148] The AIDS came out.

[149] These things were not capable of dealing with in AIDS.

[150] Even these parasites, like the Cryptosporidium, that'll take 10 days in chlorine to deactivate.

[151] Giardia, That's, that's, you know, a day in chlorine and then bromine and corin.

[152] These are not effective methods to deal with this.

[153] Well, and that's something that people had considered for these tanks, chlorine.

[154] And it's actually bad for your skin to sit in it like that.

[155] It's not healthy for you.

[156] Like the skin, like when you go into a chlorinated pool and you go into like a public pool, especially that's heavily chlorinated, it hurts your eyes.

[157] You're breathing it in to your system.

[158] It is, you're breathing it.

[159] And when it's breaking down in an action with these other material, these methane and the like I say it's creating a polythra of toxic byproducts then that need to be eradicated you can't just keep that's why you go to these places they say hey how often you're switching that water out of there and they go oh you know this guy on that thing with the hamilton's yeah oh every four months and you're going huh so today you're going to take eight he says it's expensive don't want to do it it's expensive so today you're take eight hundred dollars of your money and throw it down a drain but yesterday it was just fine to charge somebody come in here and stew around in that stuff.

[160] And I mean, it isn't right.

[161] I mean, there should be a regulatory agency that demands, you know, a certain level of cleanliness.

[162] Yeah, absolutely.

[163] Yeah.

[164] I mean, it's important.

[165] Well, it's important, too, that there's ways that people can avoid the negative aspects entirely.

[166] Figure that out, do it, and don't half -hast that.

[167] Don't put people at risk.

[168] But as I said before, as we were talking about before, this is one of the things that I wanted to get into.

[169] What about like a commercial version of it, a non -commercial version of a home version of it, a version where you know that's just going to be you using it, you know that you're not going to do anything stupid, you're going to take a shower before you go in, you're not going to urinate in it, you're not going to, it's only yours.

[170] Like, you wouldn't need all that other extra jazz if it was only yours, correct?

[171] Well, what we would want to do is make sure that whatever we build is built to code.

[172] We don't want to put stuff into circulation that's not code worthy.

[173] Like if something could happen to somebody, liability issues.

[174] Like if we cheaped out on something and made it, and then they, you know.

[175] Okay, but listen, hold on a second.

[176] You're saying cheaped out, but I don't necessarily think it's cheaping out.

[177] It's only cheaping out if you don't know what's going into that water.

[178] If you know what's going into that water because it's only yours, it's not cheaping out at all.

[179] It's like, do you need to overburden your system?

[180] Do you need to make it so it's unbelievably stringent?

[181] It removes all the path.

[182] No, no one's going in there but you.

[183] If it's just you, don't you think that that would be?

[184] I mean, not only that be totally acceptable, it would be ethical, as long as you tell the people what to do.

[185] Well, I could agree with that.

[186] You know, the issue is with us, though, is that people, they're going to take that system that we said is for your home, and they're going to put it into a commercial space.

[187] Right.

[188] But once that these laws and all of these standards are put into place, then certainly then we might be interested in saying, okay, now, here's how it could be done that would be less effective say than the commercial version.

[189] But first we're very diligent about is to establish these guidelines in the beginning.

[190] Not to say, oh, well some of our stuff does this or that.

[191] It's like all of it does.

[192] It's certified.

[193] It's perfect as it is now, but the rest of it is like, okay, we could do that.

[194] But it wouldn't be, you know, what it is that we've taken so much time and effort to get right.

[195] Now, we know all the other components, the less expensive ones, let's say.

[196] Right.

[197] And we could do that.

[198] Right.

[199] But what I'm saying is the only reason why you need all those expensive components because you're dealing with more than one human being, right?

[200] If it's me, that's the one human being, I'm completely okay with taking super clean actions on it.

[201] Yeah.

[202] Wouldn't that be like...

[203] I like to have the best.

[204] I know, but for someone who lives, you know, in a modest way and can't afford to spend the massive amount, is there a way, like, I know that there's this new thing that they're coming out.

[205] Yeah, what do you think of that?

[206] Well, it's a shower curtain on an aluminum frame, you know, which is, you know, I don't know how they're going to keep that stuff from hardening up.

[207] There's a lot of things I don't know about.

[208] You know, and I don't want to.

[209] The salt in the water.

[210] Yeah.

[211] Right.

[212] And now I don't know how they're going to keep that somewhere without getting hard.

[213] I don't know how it's not going to dissipate out of there.

[214] You know, I haven't really studied into it, but I'm aware of certain limitations that occur just in general when you're dealing with this material.

[215] Right.

[216] And do you think that perhaps some of these other designs are made from people that do not have a long -term history, a long -time history in this sort of a business?

[217] Like, they don't understand what's involved.

[218] I remember the thing about the dude who worked for Samadhi, he had encountered all the bullshit before.

[219] He knew about when engines seized up.

[220] He knew the salt content was too high, and it would fuck with the spa engines.

[221] He replaced, he knew in advance what it was probably when we talked on the phone, what the issues were.

[222] Yes.

[223] And he would come home and fix them.

[224] So you think a lot of these folks, they're just sort of getting into tanks now, and then they go, hey, I got an idea.

[225] But they're not foreseeing the potential hazards or issues that would come from these things.

[226] Yes.

[227] So is that a good explanation?

[228] I believe that that's this story.

[229] I don't think that they care.

[230] The ones that I'm aware of, some of these guys, I don't know them, you know, because I try not to get involved with these people because we're on our own page.

[231] We are trying to get it.

[232] We're not trying.

[233] We're doing it.

[234] We are moving forward in a direction.

[235] I understand, but I mean, you're aware of these little companies that are coming up.

[236] And the good thing is that it's making people aware of tanks.

[237] Like a Kickstarter.

[238] You know, somebody sent me a Kickstarter for that, that Zen tank thing.

[239] And I looked at it and I was like, I don't know if I can retweet this.

[240] I don't know enough about it.

[241] I don't know if it's good.

[242] I don't know if it's bad.

[243] I don't know if it's a good idea.

[244] It made it on that Google, on your computer, when you have the Yahoo search motor or whatever it is there.

[245] I saw it on the Yahoo. It said, oh, Zen Tent or whatever.

[246] It's interesting.

[247] So the public has somewhat of a interest in it.

[248] Like I say the e -news is doing some series on actors and how they get into.

[249] into a peak performance or whatever it is like this and that.

[250] And they want to include us in that frame of this type of activities.

[251] Using sensory deprivation tanks.

[252] Yeah, you know.

[253] How many celebrities use sensory deprivation tanks?

[254] Is there a lot now?

[255] There's more and more.

[256] We have them coming in more now.

[257] Really?

[258] Yeah, there's some that, you know, that are very, it's pretty cool too.

[259] And there are those good people as well.

[260] The ones that come in that are famous or whatever, they're never like a big, you know, me or anything like that they come in lope you wreck you know uh that's why i come in dude elton john sunglasses big fucking feather hats it's gotta come in big you're about to go into the spirit world yeah you know i don't dress up for the occasion wear your gators the but the people then that that that that that are so what i'm saying though is it it's becoming more and more of a mainstream it's becoming more and more popular and people are becoming more and more aware of it and i know a lot of fighters use it Diego sanchez is really big on it uh -huh Jeremy stevens who we talked about earlier.

[261] He loves it.

[262] Did he win that fight or is that coming up?

[263] He did not.

[264] It was a very close fight, but he did not win.

[265] But it was very close.

[266] It was very good.

[267] It was an excellent fight.

[268] It was really close.

[269] Like at the end, I believe it was a split decision.

[270] Wow.

[271] And at the end, we were going, man, who knows?

[272] But I think the right guy won.

[273] I think Cubs Watson won the fight, but it was like I said, it was super, super close.

[274] They both put it all in.

[275] Oh, it was great.

[276] It was a wild fight to watch.

[277] These guys are so skilled.

[278] That spin -about kick with a guy kicks him in the chin.

[279] I watched you walk out.

[280] on a little clip and you're walking out on this is a long time ago and as you're walking you don't even stop walking and you jump around and kick the guy i think you kick him in the chest or something and he goes out immediately i mean it was like it wasn't even you didn't even stop walking and then that guy from uh what is that show uh there's a law and order show the bald guy that's like the captain or whatever he is he was telling the story about you and him they're going through new york and there's these uh hoodlums right there's like a four or five or someone who's that So Joe says...

[281] What, you're talking into a microphone crash.

[282] Oh, yeah.

[283] Sorry about that.

[284] So, Charles, Joe says to him, I forgot his...

[285] Do you know what the guy is, the bald law and order guy?

[286] He's like...

[287] Dan Florek?

[288] Yeah.

[289] He's saying, you guys are...

[290] And Joe looks over and he says, hey, can you take one of these guys?

[291] And he goes, okay, I was trying to...

[292] And he said, Joe jumped up and...

[293] Wait a minute, wait a minute, this never happened.

[294] In New York.

[295] I didn't knock anybody out.

[296] This is a completely fabricated story.

[297] And you were in New York and some hoodlums were giving your trouble.

[298] Listen to me, because you're talking about.

[299] me. I'm trying to explain.

[300] Did not happen.

[301] Did not happen.

[302] Never happened.

[303] See, this is the story he told me. He was, because he was coming over.

[304] He might have been on pain pills.

[305] Are you sure it's the right guy?

[306] He might have been on Ambien.

[307] I don't know if it's the right guy.

[308] But you just never had a problem like that.

[309] I did not beat up anybody in New York.

[310] Never kicked a guy down.

[311] No. The other ones ran off.

[312] I haven't been in, no. I haven't been in any sort of a physical altercation since I was in high school.

[313] Really?

[314] Yeah.

[315] You never did, you never get into a situation with some guy, get him in a lippy mouth.

[316] You got to put him up there.

[317] There was a guy.

[318] There was a guy.

[319] Fear Factor that I had a grab, but once I grabbed him, nothing happened.

[320] I just grabbed him, held on to him, grabbed his neck.

[321] I didn't hurt him.

[322] He was too dangerous.

[323] He had hit some people before he had thrown his wife down on a television show, and he had attacked a counselor on another television show.

[324] And they had warned us before he came on the show that he was very...

[325] He was a contestant, and he had this previous background?

[326] He was a celebrity, one of those reality celebrities.

[327] He had been on a reality show with his wife.

[328] Oh, this is the new one.

[329] It was an old fear factor.

[330] And they had reality shows back then?

[331] Oh, yeah, man. Sure.

[332] They had Survivor Man started in 2000, I want to say like 2001, or Survivor did, rather.

[333] Huh.

[334] 2001, and this guy was on the amazing race, which I think was like 2004 or three or something like that.

[335] Yeah, I mean, they've had those for a long time.

[336] You grabbed him, did it get him just to chill?

[337] Well, I thought he was going to hit me. He kept getting in my face.

[338] I pushed him away.

[339] He got my face again.

[340] I was like, I'm not going to let the problem with someone hitting you is it's really hard to see they're going to hit you.

[341] sucker punch you.

[342] By the time you react, you've already been hit.

[343] You know, it's the reaction times that people have are way slower than action times.

[344] Action times are way faster.

[345] So if someone decides to hit you and you don't see it coming, it can be very dangerous.

[346] And when someone keeps invading your space and they're, they're not listening, they're violent, they're angry, they're spitting your face, or screaming, if you just let a guy hit you, you know, the first punch is one of the most important aspects of any sort of an altercation.

[347] You get hit, you get hurt, You get damaged, and then someone can fuck you up.

[348] You've got to be really careful.

[349] Trying to regroup.

[350] Yeah.

[351] So when someone, he's violating all the laws of engagement, and he's also, he's showing himself to be very, very dumb about physical altercation because he keeps coming forward.

[352] I push him away from me, and he keeps coming for it again.

[353] Something's going to happen if you keep doing this, and you're not thinking about it.

[354] You're not thinking about what the repercussions are.

[355] You don't even know how to fight, and yet you still keep coming towards me. Well, I look at it as, but not on just that.

[356] I'm looking at his physical frame.

[357] I'm like, he's just, he's frail.

[358] There's nothing there that's, like, dangerous.

[359] There's no explosive movement.

[360] He's spitting.

[361] He's yelling.

[362] He's red in the face.

[363] He's all emotional.

[364] He's going to run out of gas in five seconds if I grab them.

[365] I'm just thinking all these things, like, but I don't want him to hit me. That's the only one time, though.

[366] That's the only one time on television.

[367] I mean, I've gotten in arguments with people before, but I'm a nice person, man. For the most part, I can avoid most bullshit, but I didn't kick anybody in New York.

[368] That's what I think he said.

[369] He said, I think.

[370] The other ones ran off.

[371] You asked him if he could handle one of them.

[372] He said, yeah.

[373] I don't know what to say.

[374] I don't know what to say.

[375] I don't know what you remember.

[376] I don't know.

[377] Who was on Ambien?

[378] I don't know who is...

[379] Who's on third?

[380] Right.

[381] I don't know neither, to be honest with you.

[382] But, yeah.

[383] I wouldn't do that, though, is that a lot of these people, I think, that they're, you know, once you stand up, they take, they'll scatter off.

[384] Sometimes.

[385] You put the choke on the guy's neck.

[386] That'll usually stop.

[387] You know, you should always avoid any physical altercation if you can do it.

[388] Any physical altercation.

[389] physical altercation.

[390] If you can avoid it, please do.

[391] You're always better off.

[392] People cooler heads prevail.

[393] People relax.

[394] They calm down.

[395] They calm down and get over a situation that could have resulted in a murder.

[396] I mean, that happens all the time where it's just like people escalate and they get to this point and they make irrational decisions and they're super violent and they're super violent and they go and do something really dumb.

[397] You know, it happens all the time.

[398] People, they get caught up in their emotions.

[399] They get caught up in their anger.

[400] They get caught up in their primal chimpanzee rage.

[401] And they just fuck up and they do something terrible.

[402] That's how people who love each other wind up killing each other.

[403] I mean, how could that even be rational?

[404] How could you ever kill someone that you used to love?

[405] And it all boils down to some of the same issues that we were talking about earlier.

[406] People don't have releases.

[407] They don't have a release for their aggression.

[408] They don't have a release for their frustration.

[409] They don't have a release for the energy that their body continues to make.

[410] They have all this food they're taking in their body.

[411] Their body's getting fat because they're not exercising it.

[412] So there's all these imbalances and everybody's uncomfortable.

[413] And people are agitated.

[414] They're agitated and easily irritated and is all about personal maintenance.

[415] And it's all an issue of personal maintenance, whether it's by taking yoga classes or what you and I like to do by getting into the tank or what some folks like to do, they just like to go for an evening jog.

[416] I know a lot of people that say that they go for a jog, like Jamie's a big jogger, you go for a run and it clears your mind.

[417] When it's over, you just things that seem so important 20 minutes ago that don't seem that important anymore.

[418] an hour ago you were sweating all these different things and now you're like in a greater perspective everything's going to be okay i was just caught up in a wave of momentum of emotions and anxiety and oftentimes you can alleviate a big chunk of those just with physical exercise they're like they say that physical exercise is as effective as antidepressants when it comes to making people feel better yeah yes that physical exercise for a lot of folks is the recipe This guy writes, a comedy writer, and he comes in, and he says that...

[419] What's his name?

[420] I don't know his name.

[421] Comedy writer guy.

[422] Yeah, he's a comedy writer guy.

[423] He goes for a walk, though.

[424] He doesn't even...

[425] No, run.

[426] He says he runs.

[427] He doesn't even like to run, but when he goes out and he runs, it creates a mental framework that he uses to write with.

[428] Yes.

[429] So he'll go out and just go for a run to create the mental mind frame that he's going to work off of his material.

[430] with not to get the physical benefits right is i i thought whoa that's a interesting uh because i know sometimes about riding my bike some stuff comes into my head that i'm i was oh wow i didn't think about that you know right so i guess when you're in this you know exercising mode too your your physical stuff is taken care of well sure you're also you're pumping your body filled with blood you're accelerating all your processes you're getting all your hormones going.

[431] You're getting all your endorphins going.

[432] Your body's pumping.

[433] You know, you're flushing out your system.

[434] Everything's moving.

[435] You're sweating.

[436] So you're sweating toxins out of your system, allegedly.

[437] I don't like when people talk about that because usually they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

[438] You know, I'm getting rid of all the toxins.

[439] Are you really?

[440] Are you just sweating?

[441] You know, what's happening here?

[442] So I'm not really sure if I should say that.

[443] But that's a lot of it.

[444] It's, you know, it's exercise.

[445] I think that allows the mind to release a little bit or at least come down perhaps when it's the physical situation is requiring more of you then and then your mind is like freed up from creating problems to evaluate it's the battery thing we were talking about earlier too it's your body stores up all this energy and you don't have a release some folks never have in any sort of an explosive release like months weeks you know days there's nothing it never happens they have no no release so they're body's just like, you know, it's designed for all these different things that it doesn't get used for.

[446] It's designed so that you can do manual labor.

[447] It's designed so that you could hunt for food so that you could gather and farm.

[448] It's designed to be sturdy when required to be.

[449] And when you don't require it to be, it gets uncomfortable.

[450] You know, and that's the issue that a lot of people face in this weird modern world that we've created.

[451] We don't, we don't give the body what it really truly needs.

[452] That's that homostasius thing, specifically a natural state.

[453] or something like that.

[454] And I think that one of the fascinating things about the tank is that it allows a very unusual type of relaxation.

[455] It also is an incredible way to absorb magnesium into your body.

[456] Like magnesium, which is an important mineral, it gets absorbed through your body through those salts.

[457] It's like Ebson salts is one of the best ways to get into your body.

[458] You feel better.

[459] When you lie in that thing, you feel invigorated.

[460] I lie in that thing for a couple of hours, and I feel like I just slept like a really good eight -hour sleep.

[461] Like, oh, my body feels good.

[462] I mean, this chambers are so good.

[463] That's what it's, you know, the people, they, and what's interesting is that people like it.

[464] When they come in and they do it, they go, oh, you know, that was very low percentage of, you know, not that we ever ask or anything, but most people say, wow, wow, you know, it's such a positive learning and the downside, you know, I don't even know what it is.

[465] I don't think there's a downside, but I have had people come to me that were in a poorly set up tank.

[466] um like this one guy came to me and goes hey i tried to do it but i was sweating i was like well you're in a badly set up tank you're not supposed to sweat you almost supposed to feel slightly cool yeah just somehow just slightly cool and if you're sweating at all it's just the temperature the water's too high right and that can happen it's happened to me before i've had my temperature set wrong or for whatever reason it gets warmer outside it's i emailed you about that recently exactly so leave the door open for a while let some of the heat out you know did you just turn it number down one notch or just left it i left it i left it.

[467] Do you want us to take it?

[468] Oh, it's too late.

[469] Yeah, it doesn't matter.

[470] I can do that.

[471] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[472] But it's, um, if it's set up correctly, it's an amazing thing and it should be something that everyone at least at one point in your life recognizes or experiences because I think that it's, it's an alien environment that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.

[473] If you could take a pill that could give you the experience that you get when you're full blown in the tank, You know how that, you know that feeling that you get when you're fully relaxed, when you've completely let go, like an hour in or something like that, where everything is just so chill and your mind is in this like incredible place and you're, you know, essentially just breathing and floating.

[474] When you hit that moment, man, if you could get a pill that could put people in that state, it would be like ecstasy.

[475] People would be like trading it in the black market.

[476] They'd be like, this is amazing.

[477] Dude, the feeling that gives you.

[478] Like the world goes away.

[479] Dude, you don't feel your body.

[480] The world goes away.

[481] you're alone with your mind in an empty room you'd be like whoa people would freak out oh yeah it's the craziest drug ever yeah man it's freaky bro it's so illegal though if you get caught with it you're dead it's completely blacked out forever you can't see anything meanwhile it's just it is like a drug in its effects but it's completely natural completely safe completely i mean i guess you could get addicted to it because i think a person could get pretty much addicted to anything right you know if it's worth doing it's worth Overdoing.

[482] People say that about jerking off, then they get blisters in their dick.

[483] Yeah, and the locusts come in, too.

[484] You got to worry about the locust then.

[485] And then you got to worry about, you know, people get that way with gambling.

[486] I mean, people get addicted to bunk a lot of things that aren't physically addictive as far as, like, the cellular level.

[487] But you get addicted to those rushes that you get.

[488] Emotionally, yeah.

[489] People get addicted to the fighting with their spouse.

[490] There's a lot of people that just can't help it.

[491] They have these seesaw battles in their relationships where they get mad and yell at each other.

[492] and then they recover and they love each other so much better because of the fact they've gone through this almost...

[493] It's supposed to be a neurochemicals that were it.

[494] We get upset and then we get a hit from that.

[495] Well, it's interesting.

[496] We get bored, you know.

[497] We're designed to go wild through the jungle banging each other like monkeys.

[498] We don't do that anymore, so we get bored.

[499] So the way we keep it exciting is start fights.

[500] Get upset, make up with each other.

[501] Madness.

[502] I just think what I love is.

[503] about the tank is that it gives you a chance to sort of step back and see stuff like that gives you a chance to step back and see like your whole life and to be alone with your mind to be alone with your mind to just really get a good look at what the fuck's going on it's such a good place to go too yeah because it's like the regular world is just loaded with stuff now it's like a constant in order just like unplugged not answer the phone or not not not have anything going on at all it's so very so rare complex to get your yourself somewhere where you almost have to leave and go on a vacation or something but in there you could just you could just get in there and close the door and then take yourself out of whatever it was that you know was where you wanted to leave from you know and uh he'll come back later better prepared to uh to deal with the situation that it might have been you know yeah i i agree and i think it's just it's so interesting to me that this slipped through the cracks for decades, that somehow or another, people forgot about this.

[504] And it was one of those things that was incredibly fringe when I came upon it.

[505] I went to a place called Soothing Solutions that's still open in Burbank, and they have those Samadhi tanks, and they do a great job taking care of them.

[506] They have a shower right there.

[507] They have a real good setup, and the lady that ran it was super nice, but she was like, it was on the verge of going under.

[508] Like, there wasn't that many people that were using those tanks.

[509] It was pretty rare It wasn't like this super popular thing And I remember the first time I did it there I was like, this is fucking bananas How is this not something that everybody's talking about Everywhere you go?

[510] And I questioned her about it And I questioned other people about it And then I would ask people if you heard about it And I was stunned by how few people In the psychedelic community didn't do it We were going to sell thousands of them Dennis McKenna's never done it I'm getting there going This is such an outrageous You know you're going to think everybody when I first did it and I started doing it and going this is something that it's...

[511] Graham Hancock had never done it I know you tell me he's supposed to come to my house and do it I was going to send him to you to do it next time he's in America I'm fucking I'm dragging him to one of those things it's like how can you go around you travel all the way to the jungle to do ayahuasca come it's right here sit down tapped into himself really good oh he's amazing super intuitive like that he's a great great guy too just a beautiful human being human being.

[512] Somebody that really has a lot in him to contribute.

[513] Fascinating, honest, inquisitive, willing to take chances.

[514] Even if he's incorrect occasionally with some of these ideas, the ones that he's been correct about, it's pretty mind -blowing, some of the implications of some of the things that he's discovered.

[515] And with things that we were talking about this on the car right up here, that Gobeckley -Tepe situation where they've discovered this incredible stone ruins from 14 ,000 years ago, and this is something that they just didn't even know existed before.

[516] They didn't know there was a culture 14 ,000 years ago that was capable of building something like this.

[517] And because of the fact that it was covered up 14 ,000 years ago, they're pretty sure that it was built at least that long ago, perhaps even longer.

[518] It was covered up on purpose.

[519] It was covered up on purpose.

[520] It was hidden, they said, I think.

[521] They explained how the arc, and this is all mainstream archaeology, folks.

[522] This isn't some weird friendship.

[523] This is, I mean, pretty much completely agreed upon by all these different scientists.

[524] At some point, around 12 ,000 years ago, they covered all of these stone structures.

[525] And it's an enormous stone structure complex of these concentric circles and these weird three -dimensional carvings that are into these stone columns.

[526] They're huge.

[527] We're very intricate, very difficult to do, especially back then when they thought that people were essentially just hunters and gatherers, which is, you know, they didn't think that people had built cities back then.

[528] So 14 ,000 years ago, someone or 12 ,000 plus years ago, someone had had the ability to do this that we were unaware of until this discovery.

[529] And this discovery wasn't even made until like the, I think, the 90s, 80s or 90s, someone found one of these stones and they started uncovering it.

[530] And to this day, they've only uncovered like 5%.

[531] Why isn't that a focus?

[532] Well, it is.

[533] It's just slowly but sure.

[534] Well, it's only 5 % uncovered, but it's a focus of us.

[535] Why isn't society like informed about it?

[536] Because Kim Kardashian's ass is huge and a lot of people think it's fake.

[537] That's it.

[538] Her dog has got a, he's got a, his paw is sore.

[539] Something's wrong.

[540] Something wrong with the dog.

[541] What shall I do?

[542] The shoe shoe dog.

[543] Well, it's just mainstream television, mainstream media is a lot of his, you know, it's a business and it's based on the base humans.

[544] The amount of numbers, look, I've talked to a lot of people that work for paparazzi, that work for, like, TMZ that work for these people.

[545] They're just regular people that are a part of this system that they get some money out of.

[546] And the get some money out of the system exists because people are curious as to what Britney Spears is up to.

[547] They're curious as to, you know, how Kanye West is going to deal with Jimmy Kim and making fun of them.

[548] People just get super obsessed by this stuff and there's a business in feeding that obsession.

[549] So all these people that don't take themselves away from the television and don't get into an isolation tank and don't take a yoga and don't consciously choose to not inundate their mind with silly nonsense.

[550] Instead, if they just took a broader path, took a wider view, took a more sensible approach to their life, you know, I think we would see less and less of that stuff.

[551] You know, it exists because there's a void, because there's a reason for it, because it's interesting to people.

[552] It could be a fad.

[553] Maybe if people continue to, you know, smarter along the course that we looked at earlier in the podcast, the court trip, not the court of Eddie's father, but of Leave it to Beaver.

[554] We look at Leave it to Beaver and then look at things that we see on television today and the sophistication level of the media that we produce, the artwork that we produce is pretty intense.

[555] The growth amount is pretty intense.

[556] So I think that that is just, that's the evidence that people are becoming more sophisticated overall.

[557] There's still going to be plenty of idiots.

[558] There always will be.

[559] There's always going to be people that resist.

[560] There's always going to be people that are involved in religious cults.

[561] There's going to be people that are ideologues that have these insane ideologies.

[562] There's always going to be that.

[563] But I think that overall, things are getting more sophisticated.

[564] People are becoming more aware.

[565] People are becoming more smart.

[566] Don't you think?

[567] I'm hoping for that, and I believe that that's probably correct.

[568] And the tank's part of that in some way.

[569] The tank can help a person.

[570] And, I mean, everybody, you know, like I say, they put them in these schools, help these kids, you know, define themselves.

[571] You know, that's very important for people to have that opportunity and that option to take and turn out how they want to be based on what it is that they think that how they want to be.

[572] You know what I mean?

[573] Do it because of your own reasons.

[574] Yeah, and know what those reasons are.

[575] And that's one of the things about meditation, whether it's TM or whether it's yoga, whether it's going into a tank.

[576] When you're alone with your thoughts, you get an idea of what your thoughts actually are.

[577] If you live your life just acting constantly on the momentum of other people's expectations, of you wanting to be liked by these other people, you can run into a trap and you set up a life that you didn't really want.

[578] You're fucked.

[579] You're trapped in this situation where you have a mortgage.

[580] you've got credit card bills you got student loans you have to pay you have a bunch of shit going on you have to continue to feed and all that and especially if you have a family and you have to feed them oh my goodness then you're fully locked in you can't take any chances whatsoever and oftentimes people make the mistake of getting stuck and it is just a tactical mistake just like it would be a mistake if you got stuck on a video game just like it would be a mistake if you followed a map incorrectly and you get stuck in the woods your life is certainly some sort of a journey.

[581] It's certainly some sort of a journey.

[582] And we have to all be aware that when we're making journeys, we're not going to always make the right steps.

[583] And sometimes you have to back up and try again.

[584] And if you're in a position where you can't back up and try again, you've trapped yourself.

[585] And the system will set out honey pots for people to get trapped in.

[586] The system will set out the ideas of retirement, the ideas of the golden years, providing you benefits, providing you a healthy work environment.

[587] Why?

[588] Well, because they want people to work for them.

[589] They don't want people to realize their own dreams and escape.

[590] But those, that's a fucking pain in the ass.

[591] You've got to hire more people and train them.

[592] And they want to set it up so that you stick around.

[593] Stick around in some sort of an unsatisfying world.

[594] It's up to you to see that video game problem.

[595] To see that issue as it comes up on the map.

[596] No, no, I think this is a right turn.

[597] To see all the problems that could potentially lay in front of you and calculate your future.

[598] And then also look around all the people that didn't do it and look at the misery that they're in and learn that you don't want to be like them.

[599] And then look at the people that have kind of taken chances and navigated their way.

[600] What do they do differently than you?

[601] What objectivity do they have that maybe you lack?

[602] What insight into their own mistakes are they willing to delve into that you're not, that you step back and you go, you know, I just don't want to look at myself that closely.

[603] But the person who's able to look at themselves the closest is going to get the more rational results.

[604] Well put, you know, because you're your own, architect, you know what I mean?

[605] You turn out how you...

[606] Sort of.

[607] I want to be like Shaquille O 'Neal.

[608] Shit's not going to happen.

[609] You know, if you wanted to be like some seven -foot -tall black guy, it's really...

[610] The odds are slim.

[611] You can't...

[612] Imagine if you could.

[613] Imagine they found out that the secret is real, that you could just become whatever you want.

[614] So if you thought hard enough about being a giant, you would just start growing.

[615] If you thought hard enough about being a woman, you would just turn into a woman.

[616] Like, people look at you, like, is something going on crash?

[617] You just be like, well, I've been thinking a lot about living my life as a woman, so I just started to become a woman.

[618] And you can just do it like from a cellular level.

[619] Unconsciously.

[620] Totally consciously.

[621] What's going on here with this?

[622] Well, that's ridiculous.

[623] I'm talking about him completely consciously.

[624] Isn't that the idea behind like the secret?

[625] Did you get like when that whole the secret thing was going on and what the bleep do we know and people started really getting into the idea of manifesting your own reality with your imagination?

[626] Did you get a lot more people coming into the tank centers?

[627] Looking for a place?

[628] I think that was probably like kind of in the people maybe started to, that group, what's it called?

[629] Group consciousness or something, collective consciousness.

[630] Yeah, yeah.

[631] You know, I don't really like that.

[632] And I don't like that, you know, Motto stuff about the water having a personality or whatever it is.

[633] Is that bullshit?

[634] I have a dark field microscope.

[635] And I studied, you know, a bit about water.

[636] And, you know, I yell at it or I'm nice to it and I can't tell the difference.

[637] You know, I'm trying to, hey, you, you know, you're rotten.

[638] And it doesn't seem to affect the water under my microscope.

[639] But he does the freezing.

[640] I don't know how he did it.

[641] What is it called the message in the water?

[642] Well, it's Yamamoto.

[643] He's a scientist that suggests that the water is a, like we're water sort of, I think is the premises that if you're nice to water, water's nice.

[644] And if you're nice to people, they're nice, I think.

[645] It's something.

[646] It's called hidden messages in water.

[647] And it's all pretty fascinating.

[648] but a lot of people think it's total bullshit.

[649] Scientists think that.

[650] Yeah, but those are the ones you've got to listen to, man, because all these other people, they're seeing ghosts and shit.

[651] You know, the problem is the scientists are the one they're analyzing shit and looking for actual results, whereas the people that are really into spirituality and channelers, they're looking to find a very specific result.

[652] They're not looking to just measure these things.

[653] Do you know it's fun?

[654] You ever done that thing with the muscle testing and they push on your arm They put the little medallion on you, the Tesla medallion or whatever, and they say, oh, you know, this is a Tesla technology, or now it's, so, okay, they put the little wristband, a little, whatever it is.

[655] So I could never understand how that works.

[656] It doesn't make any sense to me, right?

[657] Right.

[658] So one day, it's guy shows up, and he says, okay, let me try this then.

[659] So I have a desk behind me with a towel on it.

[660] So actually there's a proximity thing.

[661] You've got to be within 10 feet of this thing or something that still has an effect.

[662] So I say, okay, okay.

[663] What is this thing again?

[664] It's like a medallion.

[665] A medallion.

[666] Or a ring or a thing on a thing on your wrist.

[667] Yeah, they say something's about Tesla technology.

[668] They put your arm up and they push down on your arm to see.

[669] People love, that's all bullshit.

[670] Those are carnie tricks.

[671] I couldn't understand how it was worth.

[672] So I took the thing now.

[673] I said, okay, here, watch this.

[674] Took the table behind me. I'm going to have it in my hand or not.

[675] They put it behind my back and I either put it up on the table underneath the towel or I had it my hand.

[676] And when I came back then, all the tests were off.

[677] The guy had not a clue how to manipulate the test.

[678] Oh, so he didn't know if you had it on you.

[679] So then he started doing all his carnie tricks, and he couldn't commit to them because it didn't work.

[680] Uh -huh.

[681] Wasn't certain as the outcome he was trying to produce.

[682] Try it with me. He did it to my co -host in the UFC, and he was believing it.

[683] He had one on and shit.

[684] He was telling me, you got to try this.

[685] It's amazing.

[686] And I was like, what is it?

[687] And the guy goes, well, let me explain it to you.

[688] It's all about polarity.

[689] You know, starts to using all these words.

[690] Polarity, magnetism.

[691] It's all about fucking voodoo.

[692] Tesla.

[693] He's all, tell me all this stuff.

[694] And then he said, this, this, this, this, uh, this thing, when you put on your wrist, it's going to make you stronger.

[695] And I go, really?

[696] And he goes, yeah.

[697] So he goes, all right, I want you to do this.

[698] And he was like, maybe put my arm out right that.

[699] He goes, okay, now resist me, you know, and I resisted him.

[700] And then he's like, all right, you're not supposed to be able to resist that.

[701] I was like, well, look, man, you're making a mistake.

[702] You got bad leverage.

[703] You're trying to push down to my arms.

[704] You're not big enough.

[705] I can hold my arms out there like that.

[706] Do your lift up.

[707] Yeah, I lift weights.

[708] This shit ain't going to work.

[709] and then he goes, all right, now I want you to put this on.

[710] You know, like, tell me if you feel like stronger.

[711] I go, I'm not any stronger.

[712] You're not going to get me stronger from a fucking little rubber band around my wrist?

[713] This is ridiculous.

[714] I go, you're standing in a different position.

[715] I go, you're doing it differently.

[716] I go, you were trying to get closer to me before, and now you're doing it further away from me, which, you know, you have less leverage.

[717] This is stupid.

[718] I was like, this is dumb as fuck, man. Parlor trick.

[719] Dude got mad at me, man. He was really upset at me. His face started getting red.

[720] I go, listen, man, there's no scientific basis for any of this shit.

[721] He goes, well, 100 ,000 athletes can't be wrong.

[722] Turns out they were wrong.

[723] Turns out they sued.

[724] It turns out there's a class action lawsuit, and all those fucking people got their money back.

[725] I mean, it's a big deal.

[726] Yeah, it's a parlor trick.

[727] Total horseshit.

[728] But I talked to fucking athletes that swore.

[729] It worked.

[730] They do that.

[731] They believed it worked.

[732] See, that's why, like you say, the chamber, though, is like they do all those hoaxy or this, they try this or they tried the acupressure.

[733] And they do these shows on TV, and they try to, you know, discredit these natural...

[734] Well, you can't discredit the chamber.

[735] They have never been able to come up and say that thing doesn't do anything.

[736] Well, they wouldn't want to.

[737] First of all, it's so natural.

[738] It's so natural and so positive.

[739] And you look at it, it's so ingenious in its design.

[740] And effected.

[741] It does something...

[742] It helps you do something with yourself.

[743] And I mean, what else is there that does that hardly?

[744] And it's super relaxing.

[745] It helps to calm down?

[746] Super relaxing.

[747] We could all use to relax.

[748] Fuck, I know I can.

[749] God damn it.

[750] Listen to me. I can fucking use to relax.

[751] People are coming in there in a big hurry.

[752] They're a big hurry to relax.

[753] Yeah.

[754] You know, they're in a hurry up and relax.

[755] I don't know.

[756] I only have an hour.

[757] Let's get in there quick.

[758] We give them two hours for 40 bucks.

[759] That's amazing, by the way.

[760] You have the best fucking rates, man. Nobody has rates like that.

[761] Everybody else is like, I've heard 50 bucks an hour.

[762] I've heard people saying, well, you know, there's no money in this.

[763] There's no profit in it.

[764] So we have to charge this much.

[765] just to keep the doors open.

[766] But what you've always done is, I mean, I can't tell you how many people have gone to the float lab and go, dude, it was so cheap.

[767] I was like, yeah, yeah.

[768] And, like, in my town, it's $150 for an hour.

[769] Like, I've heard that.

[770] I've heard $150 for an hour.

[771] What's the most expensive you've ever heard someone charging?

[772] I know, $1 .20 and stuff.

[773] I don't know.

[774] See, it just, it bums me out because it's not cool to charge people like that, to try to, you know, if you, if you, if, if, if, if, you know, you can charge more.

[775] Well, so what?

[776] I don't have to.

[777] I don't...

[778] Well, if you have an initial investment and you build an X amount of tanks and then you have a place where it makes sense as far as the amount of rent and then you just have them filled all day long, it can be profitable.

[779] I mean, you're not going to be Rockefeller.

[780] But you're not trying to do that.

[781] You're just trying to spread this shit.

[782] Trying to accommodate the people in general, not a specific group of people.

[783] Like, I remember when I said the clubs, I always have the jello shooters for a dollar.

[784] I have a dollar beer.

[785] Always a dollar draft.

[786] Always.

[787] And then I have dollar, all my schnops is a dollar.

[788] You know, because the people, the money is a thing for, you're dealing with regular, you want to have, what is your objective?

[789] Are you trying to make, is this your money thing?

[790] Are you trying to provide a service and a situation?

[791] And create a community.

[792] Like the people that come to you, like, I never hear anybody.

[793] I have never once heard anybody go to your thing and go, you know what, crash was rude, the place sucked, the tanks were expensive.

[794] No one's ever said that.

[795] They always say, oh, crash is so cool, the place is so nice.

[796] I love it there.

[797] Like, no one has any negativity.

[798] Well, that's, that's, like Ian's so handsome.

[799] Look at them over there.

[800] Beautiful bastard.

[801] They come to the girls.

[802] It's a good move.

[803] Ian should be, like, oiled up and shirtless.

[804] You attract dudes and girls.

[805] You have people coming in from all around to use those tanks.

[806] Did Ian use this tank?

[807] Yeah.

[808] He does?

[809] Take me to the tank.

[810] Did Ian use this?

[811] Oh, hey, that's another thing.

[812] We have your old chamber.

[813] I want to give it away.

[814] We updated that thing, too.

[815] It's all black now.

[816] we changed the door out now it's a it's a black door and it's it's inlaid and we've taken we've fixed it all up oh that's awesome so we're gonna do something with it let's do that let's um tell me what we need to do and we'll we'll give it away let's do something because i gave away my last tank yeah my samani tank i uh i had a random drawing online people sent me their emails and i just went i spun i like did the thing with my uh my laptop and i'm like tip okay this guy and then i just send it to that guy.

[817] Just total random decided to send it to this one guy in San Diego and he got my tank.

[818] Shipped it to him.

[819] Pay for the salt.

[820] We tuned it all up.

[821] It's an outrageous vehicle, man. It's a cool rig and it's you know, it's your old thing.

[822] How much does the salt cost?

[823] It's funny about that too.

[824] You're thinking about the Epsons salt, magnesium sulfate, USB grade, right?

[825] Yes.

[826] It depends on where you get it at.

[827] Even though it's labeled the same way, USP is a pharmaceutical grade.

[828] there's a quality is different like anyway you can get it at the home I mean at the bed bath and beer 99 cents store for 50 cents a pound Right Yet it's not the highest grade No even though you gotta get it from You hook me up with some chemical company Yeah that's who I get it with right yeah And it's like 75 80 cents a pound or something there Which is you know But so you figure it's like a thousand pounds It's like 800 bucks Cool But that chamber though is in Primo's shape.

[829] We have it all fixed up.

[830] And one day, we'll figure out what we're going to do because, you know, we're going to be talking more about this venue in Westwood.

[831] Yeah, so you're going to open up a place in Westwood.

[832] When is it going to be open for the public?

[833] That's a good question.

[834] We've been working on it for a while now because of the, a few details with people that we needed to get behind us.

[835] How many tanks do you have right now in Venice?

[836] Two?

[837] That's it.

[838] That's it.

[839] Wow.

[840] And the take place in Westwood will have 10?

[841] Ten.

[842] So the two in Venice are booked up, like, deep into August, right?

[843] Yes.

[844] And would be if you probably had 20 of them, you know.

[845] We turn out, there's a lot of calls, and we don't make an effort to utilize any, you know, like, there's been some shows on the TV shows want to come in.

[846] We haven't even been able.

[847] We don't have any time.

[848] Right.

[849] So it's like, oh, they want to come and film there or something?

[850] Well, Vice film there.

[851] That was cool.

[852] And Hamilton Morris, I remember he contacted me after it was over.

[853] He said it was one of the most life -changing things he's ever done.

[854] He ate a pot edible and got into your tank and just, like, changed his world.

[855] Well, it changed our world, too.

[856] That really was an extraordinary opportunity for us then to have the chance to show some people what this was about.

[857] He informed a lot of people, you know, you and him and other people that, you know, mostly it's just you and him.

[858] I don't know.

[859] Who else has really been?

[860] Well, that was his first jaunt, his first real run in the tank.

[861] But his whole thing, that pharmacopoeia show that he does, really was fascinating.

[862] He had a lot of really fascinating episodes, really cool, well -produced episodes where they covered a lot of different kinds of psychedelics, a lot of different kinds of subjects.

[863] But this subject, this whole thing where people are getting curious about altered states of consciousness is increasing and growing.

[864] And even more so, this idea that you could do it in something like the tank where it's totally natural and safe and healthy, you know, don't have to worry about it.

[865] And so I think, I think it's all part of this new sort of expanding of our ideas that we're seeing in today's society.

[866] It's expanding of what, what is, you know, what do you have in your life?

[867] What's in your world, you know?

[868] You know, what are you adding to your body?

[869] What are you adding to your day?

[870] How are you expanding your, your consciousness, your point of view?

[871] These are all new things, too.

[872] New, new.

[873] new considerations.

[874] These are points to consider that in the past, really haven't been left up to the individual.

[875] It's mostly like you go along with the tide, you know, but now you can grab a hold of yourself and say, listen, and I'm going to think about this the way I think about it, and then make the decisions to, you know, have, be received, you're not a victim anymore.

[876] You know, there's a victim, oh, they're this, they're that.

[877] they are what they are but you now with the ability to recognize you're you know that you are capable and that you are potentially just getting started I mean we're all young if we want to be if you want to be old we're certainly all a work in progress and you know let's hope the more you keep improving yourself the more you enjoy this process of life so we're talking about like people trying Pilates people love try and do shit you know i get into archery recently it's fun it's like something exciting about learning something you know you don't know that much about it and you can see your progress you know maybe you know take up a a martial art or a sport or a skill yeah something you can start doing something sewing i mean that i don't know anything i mean the uh you know it's it's good to have a balance yeah it is it's super super important to have a balance and also to find things in your life that stimulate you.

[878] The more things that I do that excite me and stimulate me, the more things that I do where I'm learning new stuff.

[879] You know, it's just, I get into things, and those things that I get into wind up enriching my life.

[880] The enthusiasm that I get from pursuing some new subject that I'm interested in.

[881] Learning is cool when you're learning what you want to learn about.

[882] Which is why I wanted to talk to you about these crazy screens that you're trying to hook up these tanks with.

[883] This is the thing that Crash was going off about forever, was these screens that would suspend above the tank and emit the lowest amount of light possible so that you only saw the image.

[884] You didn't see the actual screen itself or the border itself.

[885] You just saw the image in front of you and in that sensory deprivation state where the only input that was coming in was what you were catching off the screen and what you were hearing from the program that your mind would be way more easily, way more able to absorb the information.

[886] It's a trip.

[887] We, after five, uh, tribes, military providers we used to get this thing finally doing what it's supposed to do.

[888] So it's, it's been a difficult to get it to be contained, that image in that area that it has to be in with Fort, uh, so that, that was very, because you know, you're laying down looking at it.

[889] And one of the first things that we figured out was, because you're on your back.

[890] Right.

[891] So we take it and you go like this, zoop, and you go, voop.

[892] And as soon as the screen changes around, you're convinced that you're standing on your feet and looking for.

[893] forward on your feet at the screen.

[894] Really?

[895] Oh, this is one of the first things.

[896] And then there's some other stuff, too, that, you know.

[897] So when you're lying on your back and you're watching the video, you think that you're standing up?

[898] If you take the video, you make them, there is no video for this, really, because it's like, mostly your brain, you don't want to see gone with the wind or, you know, your whole mind, it's just patterns or movements or whatever.

[899] We've been working with different stuff as much as we can with the time.

[900] We don't have enough time, but when we come back, we have a strategy then to start to produce these programs involved in this system.

[901] But the initial, what's occurring there with that is, you know, that's the future.

[902] You see, this.

[903] Well, we explain it, though.

[904] There's a screen that's hovering over your face.

[905] Uh -huh, when you're laying on your back there.

[906] And how wide is it?

[907] The one we have now is 19 inches because the material required to build it.

[908] They can't get it any bigger.

[909] Now, though, there's 32 -inch screen material I can get it to make it 32 inches across.

[910] But is there a size that it's no longer good because you have to go back and forth?

[911] It's all black.

[912] So it's a whole thing as a screen.

[913] Right.

[914] But the image will move around within the screen.

[915] So you have it all black.

[916] We're working on something, you know, like those tiles.

[917] in the bottom so if you're in a dome now and you're laying them back on your dome and those tiles are underneath you so that the bottom is waterproof of course but you use the lights on the bottom a projector or whatever you know on the bottom you're laying on your back and the dome then is all filled in with screens and stuff and the bottom so now you're laying in this thing and you're flying it through space in a dome the upside everywhere you look and then it flips you over but wait a minute wait a minute I think you're flying like this.

[918] But you can't see through the water.

[919] Yeah, it's clear as a bell.

[920] So, but wouldn't that ruin the whole idea of sensory deprivation?

[921] Oh, no, it's a whole other thing.

[922] Light underneath you?

[923] Oh, you just see light.

[924] You're flying.

[925] But you can't turn behind you and look behind you.

[926] If it's screen everywhere, you're enclosed in it.

[927] This is the future.

[928] I don't really want to.

[929] Okay, but if you're lying, I'm confused.

[930] Sorry, if I keep interrupting.

[931] If you're lying on your back and you're looking up.

[932] Right.

[933] What difference does it make what's behind you?

[934] You're not going to see that.

[935] Well, you want to know that it's not, it's something, because then you're flying.

[936] You're suspended.

[937] You look around.

[938] You're in the air.

[939] I mean, underneath you is cool, too.

[940] If you can have the whole thing encompassed in you.

[941] So if you did wind up looking up.

[942] But you can't, when you're lying back like that, you can't see your feet.

[943] No, you would be, it would make you think that you're on your stomach looking up at what's, you know, I mean, looking down at what's actually up.

[944] You don't, your mind is twisted when it twists.

[945] You have no reference.

[946] Right.

[947] So when you move you in there, you are under the impression.

[948] That's the position you're in.

[949] Well, sometimes I don't know where I'm at when I'm in the tank, when I sort of snap out of it.

[950] Have you ever moved?

[951] I don't even know where my feet are facing.

[952] Is the bottom ever falling out or anything like that?

[953] Or you take off any which way or anything like that?

[954] Oh, yeah.

[955] You feel like you're flying through space.

[956] See, now that kind of stuff is like freaky, but you can't tell people about it because they're going, oh, no, no, no. Yeah, you can.

[957] Well, you do.

[958] I think they froze me out because I used to talk too much about stuff that was probably.

[959] Who froze you out?

[960] Who's they?

[961] I don't know who they are.

[962] The fucking government, man. No, no. Area 51?

[963] Those guys don't have nothing to do with me. I'm more of a...

[964] That's what you say, but they're controlling you with chemtrails.

[965] Oh, they're spraying it in the sky.

[966] There's nanobots up there.

[967] It's dripping down.

[968] The nano stuff now, that's a weird stuff, all right?

[969] We won't go there.

[970] Don't go there.

[971] Yeah, yeah.

[972] But this other thing has to do with audio, mostly.

[973] The audio is what's the...

[974] Yes, and the audio actually made...

[975] You had some demonstrations where it made the water move.

[976] Oh, the water is moving.

[977] It's a cymatic frequencies.

[978] We've figured out how to then...

[979] To create the patterns of sound.

[980] See, we're made out of frequency -based materials.

[981] Maybe you, bro.

[982] I'm made out of twisted steel.

[983] Sex appeal.

[984] It's all in a pile.

[985] We're made out of frequencies?

[986] Like, what do you mean?

[987] Frequency -based materials.

[988] Everything is.

[989] It's moving.

[990] Oh, you mean like string theory, the idea of everything moving at a different vibration?

[991] Matter is comprised of materials then that are, you know, unique.

[992] Like your liver is different than your kidney.

[993] You know, the frequency of the liver or the material that the kidneys made out of is it be different.

[994] So the cells then that would be used for these purposes would if you could see what they tell you is that the replication of the cell creates a depreciated version.

[995] In other words, as you...

[996] That's aging, right?

[997] Yes, that's right, exactly.

[998] Well, what if instead of a depreciated version of the previous one, what if you did better?

[999] What if you created a cell that was better?

[1000] Why wouldn't you?

[1001] If you already understood...

[1002] But how could you do that?

[1003] Well, this is going to be a tool.

[1004] We have this, the sensor now.

[1005] See, I was telling you about the brain thing.

[1006] The Germans are getting me with a cap.

[1007] What's the neurons?

[1008] What's the brain thing?

[1009] What is it?

[1010] It's a cap that has the electrodes on it.

[1011] Like a swimming cap?

[1012] Well, it's not that way.

[1013] No, it's got electrodes on it.

[1014] It's a cap that goes on your head.

[1015] Okay.

[1016] They haven't built it for me yet, but I've discussed it with them and they understand that they can do it based on some testing.

[1017] They've done in a bathtub somewhere.

[1018] But these sensors then, you see, as they're connected to you, you input information.

[1019] See, that's the other thing, the sensory of what's going out and what's going into you.

[1020] you and then monitoring what occurs based on this input this is what that thing's all about but you know I don't want to get too deep in it because it's kind of like in the future right now so your idea is to combine sound with images to essentially tune your body to a different frequency and that could potentially change the way your body produces cells absolutely that's a interesting analogy of the situation but indeed there's a lot of evidence to, you know...

[1021] A lot of evidence about meditation in the mind and the effect on the mind, the physical effect on the brain, and that what is meditation?

[1022] It's tuning into a certain type of frequency, a certain type of mindset, turning into a certain mentality, tuning into a certain energy that the mind is focused on, and that that actually has a profound effect on the very brain itself.

[1023] That's pretty interesting stuff.

[1024] It's super interesting.

[1025] So that makes something like what you're saying actually...

[1026] viable.

[1027] Oh yeah.

[1028] No, we have a group of people that are willing to give us the money for that.

[1029] You know, that's, we have the resources now to complete that, you know, in some sort of period of time once we focus back to it.

[1030] We've been trying to get this other stuff done so then we could get back to this stuff.

[1031] But that technology that we have built and patented as well is extraordinary.

[1032] And that takes this thing to another level.

[1033] I mean, this is what it is.

[1034] And that's why it's so important as well, these vehicles that we're producing now, not only will they be used for this, you know, stuff that we've been talking about here in regards to relaxation and so forth else, it will eventually in the future be used also for, you know, other health benefits and learning and a whole array of various positive features that this thing could.

[1035] Positive benefits of it.

[1036] Absolutely influenced the, the human...

[1037] And to be used in conjunction with a lot of other things in your life.

[1038] Proper diet, exercise, meditation, all these things.

[1039] That is the thing.

[1040] There is all this silver, it's a, it's a, it's a, like you have to get, it should be, everything is important.

[1041] Food, your intake, their mind, your rest, or whatever it is.

[1042] It's all like that.

[1043] If you can get yourself, you know, balanced out.

[1044] and we have a lot of room for growth.

[1045] You know, like I said, we're just getting started as a...

[1046] I think that the species itself, humans that we are, are just starting to understand a little bit about what we are.

[1047] We don't know where we came from.

[1048] It's a very good point.

[1049] Yeah.

[1050] We are starting to understand.

[1051] And we discussed it in the previous podcast about just the couple generations between us, the people that lived in the 1940s during World War I, the World War II rather, the dropping in the first atomic bomb, and then people before that, in the 1800s it's just a few generations.

[1052] You're just dealing with a few 70 -year jumps.

[1053] They now know how this retina works.

[1054] You've seen this in the back of the head, it's in the dark, or the eyes they've changed around the information somehow, and it comes out there, and then you think it's out there when it's somehow back in here being interpreted?

[1055] Well, what we're talking about earlier was meditation.

[1056] There's a study if you Google how meditation changes your brain, neuroscientistic explains.

[1057] There was a group of Harvard neuroscientists led by this woman, Sarah Lazar, who's a Ph .D., and they were interested in mindfulness meditation, and they reported that the brain structures, they monitored brain structures, change after only eight weeks of meditation practice.

[1058] Eight weeks of meditation practice, and your brain starts branching out in a different way.

[1059] It starts truly expanding your consciousness.

[1060] You think of expanding your consciousness as being some sort of an airy -fairy thing?

[1061] Well, no, it's measurable.

[1062] Like, it's expanding.

[1063] your mind itself.

[1064] What is more important than this?

[1065] I don't think there's anything more important than this.

[1066] I mean, it is the, it's the premier opportunity to do something for yourself.

[1067] And if you can expand your mind, believe me, all these people that are trying this, if they tried it in a tank, it would be oh, so much more effective.

[1068] It's, it's, it takes so much, it's like, you know, can you, you know, can you get across the country riding a bike?

[1069] You certainly can.

[1070] Can you get across faster if you ride a plane?

[1071] Fuck, yeah.

[1072] Okay, and this is the difference.

[1073] It's like, you can get there on a bike.

[1074] You certainly can.

[1075] Good luck.

[1076] Good luck.

[1077] This is it called techno shamanism.

[1078] You know?

[1079] In a lot of ways.

[1080] Technology to create, like they said, these monks they're out there trying to get these theta levels.

[1081] Yeah.

[1082] He's at 20 years on a side of a mountain meditating.

[1083] Or you could go jump in a chamber and get yourself sorted out and, you know, much faster.

[1084] Well, yeah, I mean, I would like to see what those kundalini masters see when they hit that highest level because i do believe that they can achieve psychedelic states well they're doing that i don't know are they're cundalini people well i don't know they are but some of those monks up there in these uh monasteries or wherever they're at they use these frequencies that they produce with their uh their throats and stuff to affect them somehow well duncan trussle knows how to do that he'll he can do those chance those crazy buddhist chance he has them memorized it's very freaky when he starts doing it does it take him in to somewhere does he go In his mind, he also, the freeing aspect of chanting and just the harmonizing and saying all those things, you just sort of like get into this state of mind.

[1085] It puts you into this vibe.

[1086] Duncan benefited tremendously from the tank, though.

[1087] Duncan has been my friend for a long time, and one time way in the past, he had a bad breakup called me up from a hotel.

[1088] He was at some hotel.

[1089] He's like, dude, you know, my girlfriend just kicked me. out we had this horrible breakup it just went awful and I'm like he was living with her he's like I'm literally homeless and I said hey come live with me I got an extra bedroom so Duncan came and lived with me and was going into the tank that you designed and he would go in the tank every day he lived with me for like a few months I don't know how many maybe four or five I don't remember totally until he got back on his feet again but he sorted everything out in that tank and he would tell me about it he was like dude he goes I just can't wait to get back in that tank again every day I just get in that tank and I'm figuring it out more and more.

[1090] He's figuring it out.

[1091] He's not reading what they said or he goes in there and it figures it out.

[1092] I've never met a guy who got his shit in order quicker back quicker than from a devastating breakup than Duncan did.

[1093] Was willing to go in there and do the work required to get done with that.

[1094] He also realized what had gone wrong really quickly instead of like wallowing in his own self -pity or to distort reality to sort of um just sort of be more easily digestible you know like it was all her she's crazy no he sort of he saw the whole thing twist on it he didn't put any twist on it he saw his part in it as well as the other one and realized and then from then he went on to become a successful comedian i mean it's crazy it's just like a slow build from there he caught caught that momentum but it was a lot of it was based on doing going that in that tank having those experiences on a daily basis.

[1095] It's a, it's a fantastic, uh, system for people to then, uh, you know, access themselves.

[1096] Yeah.

[1097] I mean, that, that, you know, the rest of it is, you know, it's a, uh, it's a crapshoot.

[1098] You really never know what you're going to run into in there, but you do always have that opportunity to, uh, look at yourself and, uh, you know.

[1099] And sometimes I don't even do that.

[1100] Sometimes I just relax.

[1101] Sometimes there are times where, like, you know, um, you know, and, um, and sometimes, there are You know, I'll come home and maybe I'll come home from a show and everyone's asleep.

[1102] And I say, I just need to go in there and chill for a bit.

[1103] And I'll just go in there and just chill.

[1104] Like, I'm done.

[1105] I'm tired.

[1106] I did work.

[1107] I did shows.

[1108] I did a podcast.

[1109] I did some writing.

[1110] Maybe even worked out already, too.

[1111] I don't have nothing to think about.

[1112] I just want to chill.

[1113] And so I go in there and just the floating, man, less the lightning of the load, the releasing of all those muscles.

[1114] and the, I get out of there and I feel so good.

[1115] I feel so, like, calm and chill.

[1116] It's so important, man. It should be everywhere.

[1117] They should have them.

[1118] Every gym should have them.

[1119] Community centers should have them.

[1120] Schools should have them.

[1121] University should have them.

[1122] It should be just as important as having a basketball court.

[1123] You got a basketball court, but you don't have a tank?

[1124] What the fuck you guys cry?

[1125] Are you teaching people shit?

[1126] You know, you need to get a goddamn tank room, son.

[1127] Well, we're going to, I think that we're going to do what we can do to make that all happen.

[1128] You know, these schools and stuff where these kids are at, once again, you know, if things go the way that we hope they go, we're all about providing these vehicles for schools and, you know, old people or veterans or these veterans get a lot of benefit out of this, too.

[1129] They get that PSD, whatever it is.

[1130] PTSD, post -traumatic stress disorder.

[1131] They say that the chamber is the one thing that helps them.

[1132] them up, you know, they're all getting the, you know, the medication and so forth.

[1133] But other than that, they don't really have an option, you know.

[1134] And so this is a thing that would be very appropriate to offer these servicemen and women.

[1135] They come back and have troubles dealing with the framework of their situation when they get back here.

[1136] If they had the opportunity to go in there and investigate the, you know, because it's already done.

[1137] You can't go in there and erase whatever it was that's bothering you.

[1138] But you could go in there and come to terms with whatever it was, realizing it is, it's done, it is what it was, just like any other problem that people go back to.

[1139] I mean, at some point, it's up to you to release yourself from that obligation to get upset or feel bad about something that didn't go right in the, past you know and uh that's a huge point because people define themselves by the past instead of thinking about who they are now instead of they they still look back at a mistake they made and don't just get past that mistake grow and learn but dwell on it think it defines them it's the worst thing i met some guys in band he's as a singer's i've only met him twice two different times years later both times he started telling me about the story about what happened to him when he was in this and you're thinking this poor guy has gone on all these years and he's still focused on the worst situation that he ever had to live through.

[1140] Yeah.

[1141] And he's so attached to it.

[1142] Well, some guys get one breakup and they're done.

[1143] Some guys, one breakup in their 20s will tank them for a decade.

[1144] I've met guys like that.

[1145] Yeah, you know, I came out here with Sally and, you know, she fucking fell in love with her trainer.

[1146] Dude.

[1147] Sally still?

[1148] Move on.

[1149] What is that?

[1150] Ten fucking years ago.

[1151] Oh.

[1152] Well, you know, it changed my life, bro.

[1153] But I tell you, I was so disappointed.

[1154] I can't trust women anymore.

[1155] Oh, you stupid fuck You know, what if you got mugged by one person You've done trusting people Exactly, I mean One person was a murderer Let's not trust anybody Yeah, yeah, you know I heard about Ted Bundy I'm not trusting people anymore Oh, okay, great I'm not sleeping tonight Jesus Christ We Yeah, I mean There's definitely pitfalls in life You're gonna run into them We all are You can learn and grow if you survive You pick yourself up You dust the dust off And then you start going You know, don't let this stuff Don't let it beat you down It's also directly proportionate to the amount of hardships that people face in life, their ability to face hardships.

[1156] You know, and there's a lot of folks that live life on a cushy cloud of marshmals and bullshit, and then one day something goes wrong.

[1157] And, I mean, that's why spoiled kids are so sad.

[1158] Like, a spoiled young boy is one of the saddest things ever.

[1159] A young boy that becomes a man and can't take care of himself, and his dad has to keep on rescuing him.

[1160] His dad has to keep on bailing him out of situations and giving him money.

[1161] I've met guys like that.

[1162] And that is a crippling affliction.

[1163] when they don't have the character themselves to be able to get by in life.

[1164] They constantly need someone to help them and bail them out.

[1165] Even as a grown man, I've met guys in their 40s that still need help from their parents.

[1166] I'm like, what the fuck, man?

[1167] You're never going to get it right because somewhere along the line they didn't face enough of the adversity to realize that there's sometimes you just got to get up and get shit done.

[1168] There's sometimes where you have to fucking pull yourself up and you have to push forward even if you want to stay in bed.

[1169] And if you don't do that, that and you just keep calling on your daddy and your daddy keeps rescuing you you never develop those tools you never develop that ability to recognize what you're doing wrong with your life because you're you're soft you got a cushiony you got a safety net a safety net for your safety net i have this friend and she has this uh this friend that she's been friends with uh for decades and this poor fuck his family super super super wealthy like unbelievable wealthy billions of dollars and he had not only did he had a trust fund and a backup trust fund so he blew through the trust fund and then he blew through the backup trust fund real estate investments and just disastrous business ventures no character no discipline no ability to stick it out but incredible amount of resources he had millions and millions of dollars just pissed it all away didn't understand it completely depressed and one day he said to her he said you know because she has children as well and she has sons he said to he goes whatever you do do not give your kids money don't give them a fucking penny he goes especially your boys don't give him a penny that that ruined me don't give money and I was like wow it's deep shit to be a man like in your late 40s looking back at your life this disaster wreckage that you put forth with the millions you've blown now he has like a retail job his parents fucking abandoned him I mean you look at that and you go whoa this is this is wild shit man it's a guy's just still struggling from the way he was developed from the tools that were instilled in him at childhood and in you know in adolescence and having that safety net just provided him with a way to stay in bed kept him weak never developed character yeah or the uh you have an opportunity every time things go wrong every time things feel terrible you have an opportunity to learn from whatever makes you feel terrible and never allow it to happen again exactly yeah thank you that push forward don't don't do it again yeah You know, learn from your mistakes.

[1170] We all make them.

[1171] That's where meditation comes in, recognizing that and solidifying it in your head.

[1172] And I believe meditation in the tank, which is a more magnifying form of meditation, I think it's more intense.

[1173] And I think that you can really get something out of that.

[1174] With those sort of ideas in your mind about constant, consistent improvement, and that's the only thing that you'll allow from yourself is to maintain a certain standard, then consistently try to improve.

[1175] And do that.

[1176] do that and you'll be a happier person that's an amazing uh concept there to become a part of to where you're involved in your the construction of your own character yes through your own efforts and your own evaluation and then to to make the right steps and make the right decisions that to become even stronger as you go yeah engineering your life it can be done you know it's not it's not impossible you can i mean you can do it to a certain extent a certain extent you can do it the world could be a better place, crash, right?

[1177] It's becoming a better place.

[1178] It's becoming a better place.

[1179] And that's what everybody's part of it is to do, is to hopefully make it a little bit better.

[1180] You know, if we could all get on that, just do that together, try to make things a little bit better, just a little bit better.

[1181] It would really have a monstrous effect.

[1182] I agree.

[1183] And I want to thank you.

[1184] I want to thank you for coming on the podcast and talking about this stuff.

[1185] And I really want to thank you for being this guy who's out there innovating in this, almost forgotten business because for me knowing you has been very important it's helped me a lot and knowing your tanks and being aware of that you know there's a guy out there that's pushing it so far and it's created this incredible portal i think of it i mean i know what it is it's a tank filled with water and i know there's a heater attached and i know there's filters and i know but for me it's a portal i get in that fucking thing and i transform i i travel i go to places yeah it doesn't move it's a mental vehicle takes you somewhere yeah it does it does it it opens up passages in your mind that take you to some pretty extraordinary places.

[1186] So thank you, my brother.

[1187] Thank you, Joe.

[1188] You've, you know, been monumental in my life.

[1189] And I want to thank you, you know, from the bottom of my heart.

[1190] Well, we found each other, man. That's how that's supposed to work, you know?

[1191] You know, we both let people understand what the benefits of these things are, and we both benefit from them as well.

[1192] And are generous with those ideas and spread those ideas to other people, Just to let them know, man. I'm not making this up.

[1193] You can really get better.

[1194] Your life can fuck it.

[1195] And the people who, if you're perfect right now, who are you?

[1196] Who are you, you strange fuck?

[1197] I really believe everyone.

[1198] Lonely.

[1199] Everyone can benefit from that.

[1200] Everyone.

[1201] So if you guys want to go, the float lab is booked up rock solid deep into August.

[1202] But the Brentwood one, who knows when it'll be open?

[1203] Westwood.

[1204] Westwood, excuse me, you've got Brentwood.

[1205] Westwood.

[1206] What's the difference?

[1207] Where's Westwood?

[1208] UCLA.

[1209] Okay.

[1210] Where's Brentwood?

[1211] Brentwood is, I always confuse those two.

[1212] I just realized.

[1213] Which one's more posh?

[1214] Which one is where...

[1215] Brentwood.

[1216] Brentwood is where O .J. killed the allegedly.

[1217] That's real posh.

[1218] It's very posh.

[1219] Very posh.

[1220] That's why it was quite shocking.

[1221] I'm not allowed in that neck of the wood.

[1222] They don't let you in?

[1223] No. I'll talk to somebody.

[1224] Anyway, so we'll let you know when Westwood opens up.

[1225] We'll let you know on the podcast.

[1226] Meanwhile, you can follow Crash.

[1227] On Twitter, it's The Float Lab is the website for the Float Lab itself.

[1228] And do you guys have Instagram too?

[1229] Yeah, we do the Facebook, Float Lab Technologies.

[1230] Float Lab Technologies on Facebook.

[1231] Please like that and follow and all that good stuff.

[1232] And we're going to have that chamber to do something with here soon in the near future.

[1233] Cool.

[1234] My old chamber.

[1235] We'll figure out some sort of a contest and give that bitch away.

[1236] We'll be the second time of giving away a chamber.

[1237] I'm very excited about that.

[1238] all right ladies and gentlemen we'll be back tomorrow with the full charge matt fultron will be in the house and uh that's it all right till then much love big kiss