MFM Minisode 25

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] Well, shit on a shit.

[17] Are we doing hometowns?

[18] Yeah.

[19] Fun!

[20] Oh, I spent like a good 30 minutes trying to figure out what I had to do at 11 a .m. this morning.

[21] I sat in a chair.

[22] I looked through old texts.

[23] I was like, I know for a fact there's an 11 a .m. appointment on Friday.

[24] I didn't fucking write it down.

[25] I don't know who it's with.

[26] I was like, it's not an official meeting or I would have gotten an email.

[27] Right.

[28] So it's something else.

[29] And maybe it's coffee with a friend or maybe who the fuck is it?

[30] Someone's going to text you and be like, where are you?

[31] Yes.

[32] That's why you texted me, oh, you said, oh, we have ads this morning.

[33] But I was like, yeah.

[34] Yes, Karen.

[35] We talked about it several times last week.

[36] I mean, what are you going to do?

[37] You know, we've had a busy week.

[38] We really have had a busy week.

[39] We really have.

[40] Like, don't come at us.

[41] With your fingers shaking in our face again.

[42] Again.

[43] I'm pretty sure I'm going to forget something this afternoon.

[44] so I'm in the same place even though I'm pretty certain I didn't if I didn't write it down a mechanical pencil in my paper book it's probably not happening Can we go to the bookstore after this and I can get a day planner that I write things down with a pencil because I swear to God that's the key there's something about putting it in my phone I fuck it up every time I know I've tried it multiple times because everyone's like what's wrong with you are you from the 80s?

[45] It just makes a huge difference Also I am from the 80s so yes I need to go back to my roots and I need to do the thing that actually works as opposed to what I'm supposed to do.

[46] My mom had a legit fucking day planner that she wrote in in pencil and she was always late.

[47] My best friend, Christine Gooden, in high school, had a day planner.

[48] She was so type A, it was hilarious.

[49] It was like she wanted to be a young businesswoman, and now she's a very successful businesswoman.

[50] Does she just say, go to school?

[51] Go to school.

[52] It's 7 .30 a .m., school.

[53] 730 to 330.

[54] Get ready for school.

[55] Leave school.

[56] 330 to 530, gossip.

[57] have a snack just totally planned out you know exactly what's coming and going I got to get back to those times should we start that's the start I know well I was thinking also my point was we're so busy that I finally went why don't you start at Georgia and backtrack because it's probably something that you're doing with her lately it's been all so how did you remember I think I just really sat with it And I didn't get scared.

[58] I just sat in the not knowing and I accepted it.

[59] You held it.

[60] And then I think we were texting about something else.

[61] And then I was like, ah, I got it.

[62] It's probably, I mean, we have a lot.

[63] Tonight we're meeting with Katzolan.

[64] Oh, that, do you need to reschedule?

[65] Yeah, no. I just need to know that my Friday is blank.

[66] Yeah.

[67] Okay, great.

[68] I remember telling you, you said.

[69] You saw me do it.

[70] There's nothing there.

[71] Are you serious?

[72] I got it.

[73] We're going to Barnes & Noble after this.

[74] Thank you.

[75] What was I going to say?

[76] Oh, you said.

[77] yeah we're um whatever you're not there true you're we're catching it right in time it's just it's just horrible it's all fine all you're doing is giving yourself unnecessary anxiety that's exactly right so this will take it out of that hold my hand i'm gonna hold you i'm gonna walk you there i'm gonna tell you that which ones i like and which ones i don't like okay good um we're gonna go get you a mechanical pencil yeah i'll just give you one of mine they're like great i do have those because i love them okay i do too when i was obsessed with crossword puzzles i had i always had like six mechanical pencils in my purse.

[78] That's smart.

[79] Thanks.

[80] Oh, hi, this is my favorite murder.

[81] It's the hometown edition.

[82] We're working through some stuff.

[83] You guys send us your...

[84] Oh, my God.

[85] Is that disgusting?

[86] I'm only doing that because we're in the studio and I can hear myself.

[87] Yeah, we are in the studio right now and we are so...

[88] I'm in love with the sound of my own voice.

[89] It's just so there.

[90] I sound amazing.

[91] these mics are so good steven you guys should see maybe we should take a photo of each other oh that's a good time and we'll post i'll post them side by side on instagram we'll do it you know what let's do it when we're done good idea um what was i going to say oh yeah you guys send us your hometown murders because we're obsessed with them and we love them and we got so many that we had to dedicate a whole mini episode which sometimes isn't many to reading them to you reading them to you that's right send them to my favorite murder dot com nope gmail com.

[92] My favorite murder dot gmail.

[93] Dot com?

[94] At gmail.

[95] We don't know.

[96] Now, honey, when there's a dot, listen, is it a backslash or a forward slash?

[97] If I delete this email, is it gone forever?

[98] Or does it go to the government?

[99] Hey, you start.

[100] Okay.

[101] Tell me a story.

[102] These are some, um, some home, whoa, sorry.

[103] I'm not comfortable with this level of technology.

[104] We look like news people.

[105] We really did.

[106] Don't we?

[107] We really do.

[108] It's kind of a morning, it has a morning TV show feel to it.

[109] I'm drinking coffee.

[110] I'm not minding this at all.

[111] No. Take a big sip, a loud one to fuck with people's ear.

[112] Three people just turn the fucking podcast off.

[113] I would have turned it off.

[114] Okay, so these are hometowns from Austin, Texas, where we are going to be?

[115] Is that, are we doing that anymore?

[116] No, I don't think we were just there literally yesterday.

[117] We did two shows, and they were fucking amazing.

[118] And Austin.

[119] So fun.

[120] You were so nice to us.

[121] Austin was the best.

[122] Those shows were so hilarious.

[123] Like, they felt so great.

[124] It honestly felt like we were just doing whatever the fuck we wanted.

[125] We really.

[126] This is the most Lucy Yosey one that we've done.

[127] I had cowboy boots on.

[128] I was just going to say Georgia had the best cowboy boots on.

[129] We, oh, don't worry, Texas.

[130] We're going to you.

[131] You can stop all over.

[132] You can stop.

[133] Yeah, it's not just going to be Austin.

[134] No. We love you and we will come back soon.

[135] You guys have a great murder.

[136] Sorry, go on.

[137] No, it's, uh, we had to, it had to be said.

[138] Props to Austin full on.

[139] And the Moon Tower Comedy Festival, who were the ones that had us and the Paramount Theater, which was this gorgeous old theater.

[140] The whole thing was just the best experience.

[141] It was a treat.

[142] Thanks, everybody.

[143] This first hometown murder, the subject line is hometown murder dash Brenham, Texas.

[144] Hi, ladies.

[145] I am from Brenham, Texas, a little town between Houston and Austin.

[146] In August, 1984, I was 11 years old, and one of my friends and his mother were murdered.

[147] It's horrifying.

[148] The previous school year, Casey and his family moved to Brenham.

[149] He hung out with my group of friends at recess.

[150] He was a nice kid, but he could be a shit, too.

[151] That's everybody.

[152] Anywho, one Sunday in August, before we started back to school, Casey and his mom went to church.

[153] They were kidnapped from the church parking lot.

[154] And apparently, there were witnesses that hurt his mom screaming.

[155] Later that day, their car was found with Casey and his mom in the trunk.

[156] Oh, no. She fought like hell.

[157] He was trying to rape her, and she was even able to grab him, to start to stab him.

[158] Whoa.

[159] But the killer, Kevin, not Kevin, Linsacum, strangled her and threw her body on top of Casey in the trunk.

[160] August in Texas, poor Casey suffocated with his mom on top of him.

[161] Oh, my gosh.

[162] The killer was caught because he had given some of the jewelry he stole to his girlfriend.

[163] What the fuck?

[164] He also stole Casey's brand new Nike's.

[165] Casey and his mom had been school shopping the day before.

[166] Oh, I'm going to kill myself.

[167] My dad swears that he saw the killer about an hour or so earlier.

[168] Whoa.

[169] He was buying a Sunday newspaper for my grandpa at a convenience store just a couple blocks away and thought this guy was acting odd.

[170] The DA for this case was Charles Sebesta, who was disbarred not too long ago.

[171] Linzacum was executed in December of 1992.

[172] Casey would have been a freshman in college.

[173] Stay sexy.

[174] Don't get murdered.

[175] by Hannah.

[176] How does that, can you, I mean, broad daylight by a stranger.

[177] Like, I was thinking, oh, it's the ex -husband.

[178] Because nobody, no stranger would, you know, go to that level of fucking boldness.

[179] But, and then the kid, too.

[180] Like, you wouldn't, I feel like killers like that wouldn't, would wait till a woman's alone.

[181] What a horrifying last moments of your life.

[182] Also, both of them.

[183] Yeah, that's the, the, uh, it's almost like the lowest ring of serial killer hill or murder hell is like that you're just torturing a child with his mother there was a one austin that we read that we talked about at the live show that where he just she was washing her car at one of those like self car wash things at night but it was really well lit and he just grabbed her in public i mean i'm just i that terrifies me yeah uh well that started out rough yeah let's see if i can get a better one okay that's not not better good luck on the better murder story.

[184] Let me see if I can get better than you.

[185] Get a better one.

[186] Let me see if I can get one that doesn't make me want to kill myself is what I know by that.

[187] All right.

[188] Hometown murder from Texas, y 'all, it says, hey guys.

[189] So first I have to say that I'm in a bit of a grieving period because my two -year -old son has become a repetitive sponge and I can no longer listen to my favorite murder during my commute or else he'll go to daycare saying fuck and murder.

[190] Yeah.

[191] I think that's for the best.

[192] Yeah.

[193] He sounds fun.

[194] So, in Instead, I sit in the parking lot at work every morning for 30 minutes to get my murder story fix and show up late to work.

[195] And then all cap says, worth it.

[196] Get it, girl.

[197] We support that.

[198] So I'll keep this short and sweet.

[199] But my husband and I just purchased our first home in a small town outside of Austin, Texas in May of this year.

[200] We were so excited to move into the family -oriented neighborhood that typically feels pretty damn safe and normal.

[201] And, my God, excuse me. in July we were left in July we left for the weekend and on our way home I was browsing my Facebook news feed for murder news articles when I saw my hometown my town and neighborhood came name along with murder suicide I hopped on my neighborhood app where everyone posts about shit happening in the area that's so sweet yeah and people were posting about a loud boom they'd heard the night before come to find out a block from my house there was a domestic dispute between a husband and wife.

[202] It got pretty violent, and the wife yelled at her eight -year -old son to call the cops.

[203] As he went for the phone, the dad yelled for him to go to bed.

[204] When the eight -year -old boy woke up the next morning, the dad had shot his mother and then himself, and they were both dead.

[205] The fucking child had to find his parents knowing that he could have called the cops.

[206] You're going to be great.

[207] This one isn't going to be the email that saves you.

[208] No, it's not.

[209] The creepy part is watching interviews of my neighbors talk about the kids hanging out with the boy and being casual acquaintances with the dad.

[210] It seemed like the wife had him on a tight leash.

[211] Oh, man, that's going to snap.

[212] The whole thing still fucks me up because I drive by that house every damn day on my way to and from work.

[213] On a better note, thank you for making me appreciate Austin traffic, because I mean more murder stories.

[214] Bye, Andrea.

[215] And then she writes, like, Andrea, got it, from Austin.

[216] Andrea.

[217] Andrea.

[218] That was heavy.

[219] This is another heavy.

[220] I mean, shit.

[221] Heavy headers.

[222] That's what it's about.

[223] about right all right here's um this might help us it says arby's and axe murder okay that sounds okay here we go here we go now this is going to be i'm a long time listener but first time sending this email i swear i've rewritten this like three or four times but finally decided to send it my name is pekis i currently live in austin texas but i grew up in a small border city about three hundred miles south called laredo i learned about this crime when i was in community college On January 1991, the body of a 33 -year -old James Smiley was found hacked to pieces inside his bedroom.

[224] Smiley was the manager of the local Arbys and a deacon at a church.

[225] He was found by one of his employees who went to check on him after having missed a day of work.

[226] The police found two more bodies in the residence.

[227] Ruben Martinez, 22, was found lying in the living room couch with multiple stab wounds.

[228] And Daniel Duanez, 14, in a separate bedroom, found stabbed in bed.

[229] The police initially thought that this could be a robbery because, The Smiley's car was gone.

[230] However, along with a television set and a telephone, however, someone had taken the time to turn every crucifix inside James Smiley's bedroom upside down.

[231] Oh, no. Oh, no. I think it was the next day or something when the police got a tip from a local high school student about the murders.

[232] I guess this person was skipping class and hanging out with a group of high school friends when one guy in the group confessed to the murders and a stoned.

[233] and drunken stupor.

[234] Two men were arrested and tried for the murders.

[235] Apparently, one of the two killers he said he was tricked into going to the house by the other guy thinking they were just going to vandalize a house.

[236] So that's fine.

[237] The mastermind behind the attack was an Arby's former employee who had been fired not too long before, and police know that at some point he ran away from home and Smiley provided shelter in his home.

[238] In court, he said he was possessed by the devil and wanted to sacrifice people or something like that.

[239] Both guys are still in jail, I think.

[240] One of them had gotten the death sentence, the youngest person in Texas to be on death row.

[241] This crime was very controversial in my hometown because there was a third person involved related to a judge who never faced any charges.

[242] Anyway, after the killings, the Arby's closed and Laredo did not have an Arby's for like 11 years.

[243] Thank you for your time.

[244] I love the show and Elvis Pekis.

[245] P .S. Get Quiznos.

[246] Don't get murdered.

[247] Dude.

[248] Real quick.

[249] Quiznos and Arbys are not.

[250] Dude, not the same thing.

[251] No. They're not even in the same fast food realm.

[252] No, they're not.

[253] No. Hey, this is exciting.

[254] An all new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[255] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[256] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[257] Who killed Saz?

[258] And were they really after Charles?

[259] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[260] This season, murder hits close to home.

[261] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[262] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[263] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[264] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[265] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[266] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on who.

[267] Lou.

[268] Goodbye.

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[286] Or Dublin Dr. Pepper Decapitation, are you fucking kidding me?

[287] God, they're both good.

[288] Ghost, ghost.

[289] But let's start that other one for next time.

[290] Yeah, for sure.

[291] Okay.

[292] Murdered by ghosts, probably.

[293] My hometown murder happened when I was living in Austin at the Great Hills Apartments.

[294] This complex, which is in northwest Austin, is made up of several small buildings and is situated on a hill overlooking a protected green boat.

[295] Very lovely and peaceful, with lots of deer and birds for your cats to yell at.

[296] It was like something out of a German fairy tale.

[297] That's weird.

[298] Late one Saturday, like, children get eaten in those and put in ovens usually.

[299] Those grim fairy tales are actually worse than anything we've read on the show today.

[300] Horrified.

[301] They're all awful and like, and then it's like, and then the witch chopped them up, so don't go into the forest.

[302] You idiot.

[303] Yeah.

[304] Late one Saturday night in October of 2013, I was home watching ghost adventures and drinking boxed wine.

[305] Hell yeah.

[306] close to 1 .30 or 2 a .m. I heard a jarring outbreak of dogs howling like wild banshees.

[307] They were not normal dog noises.

[308] It almost sounded like they were screaming.

[309] It was so strange and upsetting I actually left my apartment to investigate, aka I leaned over my balcony, probably in my underwear, and looked.

[310] Couldn't find anything.

[311] It went to bed.

[312] A couple hours later, roughly 3 a .m., I woke up to the sounds of sirens from multiple cop cars, ambulances, and fire trucks.

[313] That's just what you want to wake up to at 3 a .m. Yeah.

[314] I spent the next several hours glued to the slats of my bedroom blinds, but had to wait for the Sunday night news to find out what happened.

[315] 46 -year -old John Thomas Haney was found dead in his apartment, two buildings away from mine.

[316] You can actually see my bedroom window and possibly part of my face in footage from the news report.

[317] That's so creepy.

[318] That's so funny.

[319] Look in the background.

[320] For multiple gunshot wounds inflicted by his 36 -year -old girlfriend, Elizabeth Garcia, who called 911.

[321] herself to report the shooting.

[322] Garcia confessed to the murder saying she and her living boyfriend, Haney, had been arguing over the fact that she was unemployed and was not contributing financially to their relationship.

[323] Haney accused her of being pregnant, which she was not.

[324] Accused her of being pregnant.

[325] You're pregnant.

[326] I bet you're pregnant.

[327] You're so fucking pregnant right now.

[328] You look pregnant.

[329] She's like, I had a big burrito for lunch.

[330] Look.

[331] Look, I've been going through some stuff.

[332] And threatened to beat the baby out of her.

[333] Ooh, that wasn't funny.

[334] The argument turned physical, at which point Gonzales retrieved, you called her Garcia before, so it's not Gonzalez.

[335] Maybe Garcia or Gonzalez.

[336] Hey, we can't act like we don't do it.

[337] Fair enough.

[338] Retrieved the revolver from under the couch where everyone keeps their guns, obviously.

[339] And shot Haney once he was reaching for her and several more times as he lay on the floor.

[340] Uh -oh.

[341] A sad story, also a crazy scene to wake up to.

[342] But as we all know, not the first time someone's had enough of being in a couple and murder their significant other.

[343] I reported the suspicious dog activity to the police, bragged about my crucial whirl and the investigation to coworkers and gradually moved on.

[344] My apartment complex did too.

[345] This is kind of long.

[346] And after the blood was presumably mopped up and the police tape cut down, the unit was rented out to the next customers.

[347] Cut to a chilly Sunday morning, February 2014, a first floor resident at the same building the first murder.

[348] occurred in oh that means there's more oh shit I'm sorry but although long this is one of the most beautifully written emails we've ever gotten it's very it's very it goes on it in different directions but it's fun I mean I'm really seeing this like it's an FX series I am so same billing after the first murders occurred and placed a call to 911 after finding a dark sticky red substance and then it says it was blood dripping into a pool on his paddy from the balconies above.

[349] Oh my God, can you imagine?

[350] You're out there in your underwear sneak in a smoke and something drips on your cheek and you're like, oh, water, ugh.

[351] Yeah, and it's like, it's red, so there's a chance it's frosting, but I'm going to guess it's not.

[352] It's red food coloring.

[353] Rusty water?

[354] Please let it be rusty water.

[355] Someone was baking a cake and needed to mix red frosting in and the fucking...

[356] And they tripped and fell onto the porch and all their battered.

[357] And someone killed them.

[358] Oh, da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -woke -up -ba -ba -ra.

[359] Red substance, it was blood dripping into the pool on his patio from the above the balconies.

[360] For the second time in four months, I awoke to a battery of emergency vehicles and news crews collected around a crime scene, this time involving two fatalities in the all caps, the same apartment as the murder in October.

[361] No, no, no. Okay, here's the thing.

[362] This person already said that's what was going to happen, and it still surprised me when you just said that.

[363] That's good writing.

[364] 33 -year -old Charles Sanders and his living girlfriend, 21 -year -old Remedos.

[365] Remedios di Maccibia.

[366] Oh, man, I'm going to get in trouble for this.

[367] Remedios di Maccabia.

[368] There you go.

[369] Yeah, that's definitely it.

[370] Just put it at the end.

[371] The sky just ruined my life.

[372] Oh, Alexis just ruined my life.

[373] We're found dead from gunshot wounds and the two inflicted on each other.

[374] She fired first hitting Sanders while he was standing on the balcony, despite being crucially injured by the shot, he was able to wrestle the gun away from her and fatally shoot her.

[375] Sanders died from his injuries while in the process of calling 911 for help.

[376] So they fucking shot each other.

[377] With the same gun.

[378] With the same gun while being shot.

[379] Like he shot her while he was dying from his gunshot.

[380] And that's fucking dedication.

[381] Laughing is what I'm doing, but it's not how I'm actually family.

[382] I just want to say that.

[383] We laugh at horror, you and I, because...

[384] That's beyond.

[385] Well, that in and of itself, as a crime, is plenty.

[386] Yeah.

[387] And then it's happening in an apartment where it just fucking happened, the exact same crime.

[388] In that you live in.

[389] Listen, we laugh because otherwise we'd be fucking hermits in our apartment's houses, in your case, living in a ball.

[390] Screaming at the top of our lungs.

[391] This is how we cope.

[392] We're not like, ha -ha, murder.

[393] We're like, oh.

[394] I mean, and how Alexis cope.

[395] because clearly she's way closer than we are yeah good for her well I'm not sure they know the exact nature of the argument between Sanders and Di Macchiaba and her since both died and there were no other witnesses the similarities between the February and October incidents are striking both couples were living together experiencing stresses in the relationships eventually turning into deadly violence and both had significant about 10 year age gap between the girlfriend and boyfriend all caps as it turns out Elizabeth Garcia, the original Building 26 killer, told detectives during her initial police interview that she thought the apartment was haunted and that the haunting contributed to the couple's obvious couple's problems and influence the violent that led to the unfortunate end of the relationship, which is obviously true.

[396] And anyone from the second murder survived, I'm sure they would have corroborated her story.

[397] Without a doubt, the suspicious dog activity, and she says SDA, fits in here somehow too.

[398] yes i have to say that was when the devil came up from the ground and all the dogs went crazy and then it went up into apartment 26 yes definitely whatever you said it was definitely i have to say i'm very disappointed this angle wasn't more thoroughly explored in mainstream media's coverage of these events i'm convinced it's a cover -up you guys are the best stay sexy and don't get ghost murders Alexis fuck that was intense now that's a hometown for you that's like four hometowns combined in one yeah and no children were involved no lifelong therapy except for Alexis I made a joke to you at the Austin shows where I was like I'm gonna try to slowly force this podcast into a supernatural realm Yeah it just gets really Suddenly into Every single thing is like And they think a ghost did it Just constantly What?

[399] No it's clearly The serial killer Who got murdered If I could put to death The fingerprints No no no no no no There was a supernatural element to it But there's something about that It's like What if?

[400] What if?

[401] I know.

[402] It's so fun.

[403] I don't believe in ghosts, but I want to so bad.

[404] So I'm like almost more obsessed with it than people who believe in it.

[405] You know what I mean?

[406] Yes.

[407] Because you want to prove yourself right or wrong.

[408] Yeah.

[409] And it's like when you ask people who are like, this person was not full of shit.

[410] Like you asked someone that you like, like if Guy Brennam was like, I have a ghost story, I'd be like, well, I believe it.

[411] Well, I have a ghost story.

[412] Well, yeah.

[413] No, I mean yours too.

[414] I forgot.

[415] Do you believe mine?

[416] Yes.

[417] Do you, Georgia?

[418] Yes.

[419] Oh my God.

[420] Should tell it real quick.

[421] It's a seven -hour ghost story, but it's the reason I, it's not like I think a ghost came and killed them or anything even in a horror movie.

[422] It's just, there's other shit going on.

[423] We have no idea what it is.

[424] We just simply don't know.

[425] I definitely believe in other planes of existence, and so maybe they just cross over some time.

[426] But the idea, it's just such a, it's such a fascinating thing.

[427] It's like one bad apartment.

[428] First of all, they're apartments.

[429] So it's like, why would an apartment be evil?

[430] Yeah.

[431] And then it's so specific to like 10 year.

[432] age gap relationships where it's just like two people turn on each other.

[433] I mean, for two, the, what is it called?

[434] It's not, two people killing each other in relationships is not a coincidence.

[435] It doesn't feel like a coincidence in the same apartment, especially if, I don't know, maybe the second ones didn't know about the first one.

[436] I feel like it's not something you disclose when you're like signing a rental agreement.

[437] Or you think they were copycats.

[438] Yeah.

[439] They knew about it and they're like, we're going to do that too.

[440] This happens in these apartments.

[441] That's the goal.

[442] I want to say actually don't believe in other planes of existence.

[443] but I really want to yeah so you're entertaining it as a as a skeptic I think it would be so cool if that if that were the truth I think it would make life more interesting but unfortunately I think life is actually just you know fake I don't know listen this is not the podcast we have not gone into surreal supernatural shit that's right and this is why because it does it just stalls out it's just like anything is possible no it's not life is horrible the end.

[444] It's just you and I fighting about whether or not anything is possible.

[445] Yeah.

[446] All right.

[447] Well, that's our hometown episode.

[448] Thank you guys so much for writing those in.

[449] Yeah.

[450] Wow.

[451] They're going to, those were four mine stickers.

[452] Yeah.

[453] Do you have a better one?

[454] Prove it.

[455] Yeah.

[456] Write it to us.

[457] Send it in.

[458] You want to beat Alexis's new high watermark of good writing.

[459] Do it.

[460] Listen, and if you have a horrible child one, clearly we're fine with those two.

[461] I mean, look, it all has to be read.

[462] Yeah.

[463] They deserve it.

[464] Thanks for listening, you guys.

[465] that's your story.

[466] Yeah, stay sexy.

[467] And don't get murdered.

[468] Bye.