The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz XX
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[14] Let's do a little bit of housekeeping here, because for some reason, our information and internet works so slowly that while we're in the show yesterday, and I have confirmation on my news feed, that Subway is indeed struggling as a franchise, we leave for the day without anyone being able to verify that on the entirety of the internet.
[15] It turns out that there are an alarming number of franchises closing, and there was an emergency meeting that Subway is saying is not an emergency meeting last week because of the number of franchises that are closing an alarming rate.
[16] That was according to the New York Post, though.
[17] I would have told you out of the top of my head.
[18] I've seen nobody at a subway in three years.
[19] Listen, as long as you get us Caleb Williams Radio Row week, we're fine.
[20] Also housekeeping on this.
[21] Do we have 20 actors better or more famous movies?
[22] acting men than Ben Affleck this century.
[23] Were you able to find 20 of them?
[24] I found like 50.
[25] I don't know if you want me to...
[26] Wow.
[27] I mean, I found a lot.
[28] Like, I think if you win an Academy Award for Best Male Actor, you're automatically on the list, right?
[29] Yes.
[30] In the last 24 years.
[31] So you guys would argue, because I'd argue that Paul Giamatti doesn't get to be as famous an actor as Ben Affleck by virtue of Ben Affleck's dating resume, which doesn't have anything to do.
[32] It just has to do with fame.
[33] Fame is a better, different, though.
[34] Well, this is where it gets a little dicey because if you just want to go by movie stars, not television and film stars, then the list gets a little bit more narrow.
[35] Like, someone like Brian Cranston probably isn't on it, although he has been in a bigger cultural event acting.
[36] And he's been nominated for an Academy Award.
[37] He has, but he hasn't won one.
[38] Well, was Batman not a cultural event when Ben Affleck played Batman?
[39] For all the wrong reasons.
[40] It was ass.
[41] Because he was, okay, because it was an ass back, Batman, okay.
[42] So Ben Affleck, the town, Argo, Gone Girl, and air.
[43] That's a good run, man. Those are bangers.
[44] Probably his best four films of, after Goodwill Hunting.
[45] 20, 2000 onward.
[46] Can I make a pushback on one thing?
[47] Argo, he's more known as being the director than his acting job that he did.
[48] That's fair.
[49] I think that they're also adding some nuance there.
[50] That was Oscar nominated, was it not?
[51] The movie was.
[52] There he wasn't.
[53] Did it win an Oscar?
[54] Argo?
[55] Argo.
[56] Argo, f*** yourself.
[57] Exactly.
[58] There's a moment where the Iranian people, the police are trying to get him and he's about to walk in.
[59] Like, that's a tense moment right there.
[60] Okay.
[61] So then you have someone like Daniel Day Lewis, who I feel like he retired from acting.
[62] To become a cobbler for a while.
[63] Fewer than 10 years ago, but he has to be on this list because he is one of our greatest actors of all time.
[64] Even though he may have fewer recognizing.
[65] titles just in the last you know what jessica i of course daniel de lewis is a better actor a better thespian he's not a bigger movie star than ben affleck like i think he is i think if he were if he announced he was going to be in a movie that comes out next year i think that would be a pretty big effing deal versus if ben affleck did it would be a medium effing and you know how we know it'd be a medium effing deal because he was in a movie with denifer lopez and nobody saw wait is this he was what is this list best actors or most famous actors that's what we're talking about right now the biggest I think the best, 20 best movie stars.
[66] Oh, The Rock, Vin Diesel.
[67] I mean, Ben Affleck's not even to sniff this list.
[68] Get the hell out of here.
[69] Vin Diesel's real name?
[70] Mark Sinclair.
[71] Yeah.
[72] Huh.
[73] Well, Billy, I think you're proving my point now.
[74] It's that there's a lot of...
[75] Mark Wahlberg.
[76] A lot of actors on this list.
[77] Mark Wahlberg actually wasn't on my list.
[78] But I had Denzel Washington, Brad Pitt, Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert De Niro.
[79] Paul Giumati with an asterix, maybe.
[80] So, you know, maybe he's O -L -I.
[81] Matthew McConaughey Matt Damon, Tom Hanks, Sam Jackson, Joaquin Phoenix.
[82] I think of the Affleck has been in this.
[83] He won an Academy Award.
[84] Not only is he won Academy Award.
[85] But he's wildly popular.
[86] Okay, but I think of them as similar names though.
[87] I think of them but if I were to say to you if I were to say to you who's more famous McConaughey or Affleck like it's push.
[88] We're not doing who's more famous though.
[89] But that's what movie stardom is.
[90] Figure out what that you want, man. That's not the only criteria.
[91] That's why I was trying to explain the criteria before I started giving the list.
[92] Oh, forgot about Cromwell.
[93] We'll get back to your list in a second.
[94] Do you know the list that you want?
[95] Because I know the one I want, it's gunslingers.
[96] I mean, yeah, top five of gunsingers is still up there.
[97] I'm not going to do that.
[98] Thank you, though.
[99] I really appreciate it.
[100] I appreciate that you guys wanted to get it back to gunslingers, but not right now, not on my watch.
[101] Tony thinks Aaron Rogers is a gunslinger.
[102] He absolutely is a gunslinger guy Sorry to tell you You got to throw more interceptions than that If you're going to be a gun slinger I knew I could get Dan in It's got to be more than five interceptions a season Well hold on a second If he's reckless this year Is it a regression or is it he's a gunslinger Can you regress into being a gunslinger No you're just an old Is an old guy who The gun doesn't work the same In the holster as it used to I don't know He's not as quick on the draw as he used to be Good argument by Tony, though.
[103] You can't argue that.
[104] I mean, we don't want to get to the list.
[105] Dan just was, he doesn't want to get to it because I would have more to say if we don't want to get to it.
[106] I don't want to get to it.
[107] We won't get to it, but if we did, who might be honest?
[108] You know why I don't want to get to the list?
[109] Because I'd prefer to get to Tony's top five NFL games, regular season games.
[110] He's keeping an eye on.
[111] Oh, wow.
[112] Possibly a better list, by the way.
[113] I'm not going to say it's 100 % a better list, but it's possibly a better list.
[114] But gunslingers after that?
[115] No, thank you.
[116] Number five, Tony.
[117] Well, we have.
[118] Eight O -LIs, Dan.
[119] Oh, for the love of God.
[120] Eight.
[121] Number one, O -L -I, Rogers, going back to San Francisco.
[122] Like it.
[123] Bay Area Kid, going back to San Francisco.
[124] Early one, that's Monday Night Football, 9 -4.
[125] September 4th, Monday, 9 -4th.
[126] That's week 1?
[127] Week 1?
[128] 9 -9, excuse me. Yeah, week 1.
[129] Very exciting.
[130] He'll probably be there.
[131] I am not doing this for 13 of these.
[132] Speed it up.
[133] Okay.
[134] Could have went gunslingers.
[135] Kansas City at San Francisco.
[136] Chris?
[137] Hey.
[138] Like it.
[139] Texans versus Cowboys on Monday Night Football Circle Battle for the Lone Star State Chees versus Bills Bengals versus Chiefs Bengals versus Chiefs The Chiefs whole schedule The whole schedule for the Chiefs 49ers Dolphins Oh wow Big one big one One that's under the radar Because people don't think about the Eagles as highly as they have the last couple years Eagles Bengals Number one OLLI Falcons Vikings Kirk Cousins going back to Minnesota It's OLL It's a big game.
[140] That's week 14.
[141] They cheer for him, right?
[142] They cheer for him.
[143] They're 14.
[144] They might be, both teams might be fighting for a wild card spot.
[145] Come on.
[146] Both teams might be fighting for a wild card spot.
[147] Neither one of them will be.
[148] It's your list, Tom.
[149] Thank you.
[150] Number five.
[151] If Darnel has a season, though.
[152] Oh, forget it.
[153] Me and Stu Gads, we're talking about a possibility for the Vikings.
[154] What if they trade for the back of whoever's not starting?
[155] Wilson or Fields.
[156] Wilson or Fields.
[157] What if Pennix is the quarterback?
[158] Oh, Cousins goes back.
[159] Oh, wow.
[160] Oh, back to mini.
[161] Number five.
[162] Number five, Bears Texans.
[163] C .J. Stroud, the next young quarterback, Caleb Williams, excuse me, coming in as the crowned amazing next quarterback.
[164] That one's going to be fun.
[165] Wow.
[166] Yes, he is the crowned amazing.
[167] What week is that?
[168] Number four.
[169] Number four.
[170] Game one.
[171] Jordan Love versus Hertz, Philly versus Green Bay, game one in Brazil.
[172] Brazil.
[173] seal.
[174] Number three.
[175] Game two.
[176] That's not game one.
[177] It's Friday night.
[178] Number three.
[179] Number three.
[180] The Harbaugh Bowl.
[181] Number two.
[182] 1125.
[183] Jim versus John and a classic.
[184] A couple of Harbaughs.
[185] Number two.
[186] Number two.
[187] NFC championship game rematch Lions.
[188] Number one.
[189] Number one.
[190] Measure six game.
[191] Number one.
[192] AFC championship game rematch.
[193] First game of the year.
[194] MVP versus the Super Bowl MVP.
[195] Excellent.
[196] Games to watch.
[197] I love it.
[198] I'm just keeping an eye on them.
[199] All of them.
[200] Thank you, Tony.
[201] I appreciate it.
[202] 13 games.
[203] You're keeping eye on Stugats is ready for God bless football.
[204] It's about to be a poor long season for Billy Gill.
[205] Are you guys, any of you bothered by the fact that NFL films has embargoed the audio from Travis Kelsey bumping into Andy Reed and there is audio out there somewhere that would tell you exactly what it is that Travis Kelsey said.
[206] The Travis Kelsey economy is a substantive one.
[207] You might not like how he talks to his coach.
[208] Now he's that he's a lot more famous and powerful than his coach, and are you surprised at all that it's been embargoed and no one's heard that sound?
[209] I can tell you exactly what he said.
[210] Give me the effing ball.
[211] Pretty easy.
[212] And he was right.
[213] If only got an inside man in the NFL that could get us that sound.
[214] If only we had somebody that could get on the inside.
[215] If only we had an inside man. Just stopped listening to the show.
[216] I mean, it's done so well today.
[217] I'm going to tell you exactly.
[218] You want to pull back the curtain because you said Travis Kelsey.
[219] You laid it up.
[220] And I talked to you about a Travis Kelsey topic in the break.
[221] So I was like, let me get my Travis Kelsey.
[222] Just get out of here.
[223] Just get out of here.
[224] Just get out of here again.
[225] Five minutes.
[226] Minor penalty, two minutes, asshole.
[227] The asshole is a little harsh.
[228] Also, NFL films, completely different division.
[229] I don't know anything that goes on over there.
[230] You also have to be a double agent to spy on the NFL to us and you're not.
[231] I'm not.
[232] You don't want to be disavowed.
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[246] Don Lebertard.
[247] God doesn't even know what this list is.
[248] He was ahead of Tom Brady, who also won a playoff game.
[249] A couple.
[250] That was literally the most confusing list we've ever done.
[251] He both got a better shot of coming back.
[252] Give me a chance.
[253] He's got more ladies.
[254] I'm mad.
[255] I'm angry.
[256] I want to leave.
[257] Stugats.
[258] This would have been your day.
[259] This should be.
[260] You should own the sports media landscape right now.
[261] I am.
[262] Top seven guys.
[263] I would not want the judge.
[264] No. No. Oh, no. you no I'm not allowing it Zach Wilson I'm not no no I'm not giving him a chance I'm giving him 20 years it's a harsh what I've given him my prime this is the Dan Levitar show with these two gods what have we found out in housekeeping on Stephen A. Smith and what it is that he alleged on first take please look at Tua I don't think it's an accident that Tua said what he said when he said it.
[265] I don't think it's an accident that Dan Lebertard asked him when he asked him.
[266] Dan Lebertar does this show in Miami.
[267] Dan Lebertar lives in Miami.
[268] Dan Lebertar lives in Miami all day, every day, all the time.
[269] And now is when you ask that question, there ain't no damn accident.
[270] I'm saying to you, you Brian Flores, you see through all of that because he's a smart man. You see through all of that.
[271] I don't think it's an accident that it happened.
[272] And I could be wrong.
[273] I don't know.
[274] I'm speculating.
[275] Openly, openly admit that.
[276] I'm just watching it because as a scribe, as a reporter, long before I became a punitive.
[277] I've been in this business for 30 years now.
[278] I've seen it.
[279] And I know most of the time, again, you connect dots.
[280] And if you're Miami and you're the NFL, even though Molly is absolutely right, both things can be true.
[281] When you got a case pending against you, you're looking for an advantage.
[282] To a provided it.
[283] Brian Flores didn't knock it down.
[284] I'm saying that's the reality.
[285] What comes of it I have no idea, but that is the reality.
[286] He's on to us.
[287] So you're doing their legal bidding now too, Dan.
[288] Well, what I really appreciate is the amount of credit that he's giving us as masterminds when he says it's not a coincidence on the timing and he's right about this.
[289] Should have been a week earlier if Metal Arc Media acted very quickly and And instead, it got out like five days after we did it because we got it out when we got it out because everybody was rushing back to the facility to cut tape.
[290] We sat on that for a while.
[291] You're right.
[292] Wasn't that a follow -up question, by the way?
[293] It was the last question that I was asking.
[294] Yeah, but he had said something.
[295] I was there with you.
[296] He said something earlier and you brought it back and I was proud of you because you had to bring it back because Tua was talking about the differences between, you know, being positive every day.
[297] it is not strategically placed timing.
[298] We got it out with Chris Cody in shorts.
[299] There was nothing strategic.
[300] This was all part of my plan.
[301] Or in cahoots.
[302] As soon as I took over, I was like, all right, we're going to do this week before the season starts.
[303] We got this.
[304] We did.
[305] We planned with the dolphins, with Goodell.
[306] We called him personally.
[307] Listen, Chris Cody's going to sit in short shorts right next to him in the middle, and then we're going to release it five days later.
[308] He let his guard down.
[309] I mean, Chris clearly made him comfortable.
[310] Why are you playing with the string?
[311] I don't know why they have this still shot.
[312] It's just unnecessary.
[313] I watch the video so good.
[314] I don't know what to do with the string sometimes.
[315] It doesn't look sloppy if they're not tied.
[316] Are you?
[317] But then if they are tied, you have to untie them every time you go peepee.
[318] I hate all of this.
[319] Take this off the screen.
[320] No good bad publicity.
[321] That's the way.
[322] Dan, I was watching this video on YouTube and I was like, man, they did my boy dirty, putting them in the middle.
[323] They did.
[324] And then having him like kind of stare in between cameras.
[325] It looked like he wasn't paying attention for a while.
[326] And then he would just look at the camera.
[327] I was like, oh, it's because I assume when two is like going, they're just on two.
[328] I don't assume they're going to cut to the three shot of me awkwardly sitting there.
[329] Looking at me. Of you playing with the strings on your shorts on the outside as if it were a bathing suit.
[330] You got to know not to go to Chris there, though.
[331] I enjoy the idea that Somebody would think that Chris Cody in the middle seat of a couch is a mastermind strategic strike of an NFL lawsuit on racism.
[332] I appreciate getting that much credit for Chris Cody's executive producing.
[333] Where do you go from here, Dan?
[334] Is this like a thing where you text even in?
[335] You're like, hey, that's not true.
[336] Or do you just, I don't know, what do you do?
[337] Aren't you guys friends?
[338] It makes us seem way cooler than we actually are.
[339] Let's just let this live.
[340] I wouldn't call that cool.
[341] It would be pretty shitty.
[342] We're involved with like NFL and like this.
[343] A inside job is not cool.
[344] We're in cahoots.
[345] I mean, an inside job to discredit a guy accusing the league of racism?
[346] Yeah, that wouldn't be very cool, Stu Gads.
[347] Jessica, do you remember when Roger Gidell walked up to Juju in Germany and dapped him up?
[348] And everyone was like, how does Juju know Roger Goodell?
[349] You're welcome, Juju.
[350] I just got in my headsets.
[351] They're saying we should re -release the two interview with just the shot of me the entire time.
[352] That's a great idea.
[353] You all can go bleep yourself.
[354] Yes, yes.
[355] A one shot.
[356] Please.
[357] Do we have...
[358] Please, no. Do we have like the ISO footage of Just Cody?
[359] We could do the Chris Cody cut?
[360] I like that idea.
[361] I also have been asking for a remix of all the words he stumbled on nervously during all of the Dolphin interviews.
[362] I wanted to be a musical cut.
[363] Also in cahoots with the NFL, Tua, his people and Gidell on that as well.
[364] He's just a man, Dan.
[365] He is.
[366] He's but a man. If he's playing with his strings the entire time, we should be able to see that.
[367] Did you use them like?
[368] like a guitar.
[369] I don't know what I was doing.
[370] I was uncomfortable.
[371] I'm like, I'm in the middle.
[372] Why am I in the middle?
[373] Stugat should be in the middle.
[374] And they're like, oh, he'll look so small there.
[375] You should be the how to work out.
[376] Didn't you ask the air guitar at one point?
[377] Well, that was just, you should have had it in one of your strings.
[378] That's just a couple of guys talking guitars.
[379] When you talk guitars, you talk air guitar.
[380] Before we go any further here in the show, I did want to stop for a second to congratulate somebody I've admired in this business for a long time.
[381] It is most certainly not you.
[382] I mean, what I have seen Ariel Helwani do emerge from that sewer with credibility when that carnival barking skinhead is trying to always take away his power and doesn't care at all for journalism.
[383] To see Ariel Hawani come out of all of that with more credibility than any of the participants and now start his own vertical with Yahoo because he's realized like a lot of a bunch of people have realized that you can start your own thing and bring all of your people with you like I could not have more admiration for what that beast has done with his platform because he really created something out of nothing the the sport in general climbed from the sewer to become a credible thing that people embrace and Ariel Hawani is the most credible journalist in the entirety of the sports history and continues to grow.
[384] And the way that he did it, people cannot possibly understand the degree of difficulty when you've got the most powerful man in the organization actively trying to chase you out of places, but your information and your credibility is too good because Dana White doesn't have any respect for the idea that his information can be journalistically covered.
[385] He wants to control all of the power in that situation.
[386] So he has been unspeakably foul to Halwani over the years, trying to derail his career and has failed, failed to do it against his wishes.
[387] Something emerged from all of that garbage to be more credible than all of that garbage.
[388] And I just couldn't be happier for him as somebody who created his own thing and continues to dominate what is a really democratic space now and gets to go out on his own and build his own empire with Yahoo funding his entire empire of people because he's going to make jobs for other people.
[389] When you talk about Aero, he's a pillar of the MMA community.
[390] I think he's, I think, 1A, when you talk about journalistically for the MMA community, like it's him, right?
[391] And for him to do all things as a personal friend, I've worked with him when I was at ESPN, I was one of the producers there when he first originally got to ESPN.
[392] So for him to work at ESPN with Spotify, with Vox, with all these different places that he's done and now create his own thing.
[393] I know he's circled off a lot of different boxes, checked off a lot of different boxes career -wise.
[394] He's just an amazing dude.
[395] That's right.
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[400] Tony, what do you got?
[401] Before we go on, who's one B?
[402] 1B, I would probably say the Boys at Morning Combat Here is part of all the smoke I thought you were going to say Tony was No, I'm not there yet, I'm not there yet, MMA Hangout is soaring right now You can go check out Yeah, it is soaring right now But let's get to Gun soldiers?
[403] One can hope We'll get there, we'll get there We'll get there We've got NFL action tomorrow preseason What's it, week three of the preseason already We're right there and we're on the doorstep boys Cincinnati Bengals, Jake Browning, and them boys Okay, at home against the Colts Cincinnati Bengals plus six and a half point docks.
[404] I'm going to take them at home.
[405] It's going to be a closer game and there's going to be a lot of backups playing.
[406] I think Jake Browning and them boys.
[407] Preseason football is dangerous to bed on.
[408] It's very dangerous.
[409] That's why I'm going to go with the points.
[410] That's why I'm going with the points here.
[411] Against the spread.
[412] Jake, again, Jake Browning and them boys.
[413] Billy, who you got?
[414] I'm going to take Georgia Tech plus five and a half.
[415] Kickoff.
[416] This is their first of two week one games, as Greg Cody reported last week for Florida State.
[417] I feel like Georgia Tech's going to have the upper hand on this one.
[418] I don't know if they're going to win.
[419] There's a lot of turnover there at Florida State.
[420] 10 .5 points is a big spread.
[421] I'm going to take Georgia Tech plus 10 and a half.
[422] Against the spring.
[423] She's going to shock the world, Billy.
[424] Amin alma mater for Amin, Georgia Tech.
[425] He has not been this proudly a wreck.
[426] He has not been this proudly a wreck since.
[427] they beat the University of Miami, which refused to kneel in victory formation.
[428] Oh, yes, Dan.
[429] I'm still working on those sideline passes for homecoming.
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[451] Don Lebertard.
[452] Guts.
[453] This is the Dan Lebatar show threes, as they chase the nets for the six seed.
[454] These five words in his head, scream, are we winning games yet?
[455] This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.
[456] Can we get, please, before we go any further into some of the music choices that Kirk Cousins is making, you thought I was going to go gunslingers there?
[457] I thought so, too.
[458] I am not, I am not going to.
[459] I have not promised.
[460] I am not going to gunslingers.
[461] I will not do gunslingers today.
[462] Yes, not that one, though.
[463] Not interested in doing that one.
[464] How do we feel about the playlist here of Kirk Cousins, the practice playlist?
[465] Because Jessica was saying that she would buy the playlist from the DNC last night.
[466] I wouldn't buy it, but I would download it on Apple music and listen to it, perhaps.
[467] There's some bangers in there.
[468] For the audio audience that isn't able to see the list of songs that Kirk Cousin played at practice, I will just play.
[469] I'm looking at Mr. Brightside by The Killers, All the Small Things by Blink 182.
[470] What else we got here?
[471] Let me help you here.
[472] Now, Chris, to further solidify what you just said and then what you just played, Atlanta Falcons.
[473] wrote up on their site, the official Atlanta Falcon site, about this playlist.
[474] And in it, they quoted Internet reaction to it.
[475] And the first tweet they have is from Jeremy Chandler -Tashay.
[476] Oh, no, I am Kirk Cousins, Fallout Boy.
[477] Cryptonite by Three Doors Down.
[478] I love that, though.
[479] I remember they used to play the promo on NBC for Kings versus Lakers.
[480] And Shaq, it's like, what's his kryptonite?
[481] It's the Kings.
[482] And he played that song.
[483] That was the first I ever heard that song.
[484] Goose bumps.
[485] Oh, man, Maroon 5.
[486] This love has taken it's all.
[487] This is a practice playlist?
[488] This is a kentel -won -Wat -Wat -W -W -W -W -W -W -W -W -W.
[489] This is a Kendall -Tool -Peloton ride, if I've ever seen.
[490] Stacey's mom is a banger.
[491] She's got it going on.
[492] These are all really old.
[493] This is like 2006, like Billboard Top 100 songs.
[494] It's not even recent follow -up.
[495] Boy, it's sugar we're going down.
[496] That's like their second album.
[497] The anthem, good Charlotte.
[498] Oh, classic.
[499] Mr. Brightson.
[500] I can't believe you neglected to mention stereo hearts by Jim Class Heroes.
[501] My heart's stereo.
[502] It beats for you.
[503] They should have done this.
[504] They should have done this the way Roy does Roy's top 10.
[505] and like there should have been one just like a shocking number one you guys ever think the gym class heroes guy looked like joe kim noah yeah w a w a speaking of playlists all right i'll give you your gunslinger open he promised he delivered i mean let's let's uh just see though for all of you who were thinking how does gardner minshue work out does he work out to creed of course he works out to creed does he work out shirtless?
[506] Of course he does.
[507] Is he wearing a carpet made out of chest hair on his torso?
[508] Yes, should he play an NFL game holding a Miller light and shirtless and with a hairy hairy torso?
[509] Let's see Gardner Minchew working out to Creed.
[510] He's just shirtless in a field just sweaty.
[511] Now he's in a gym.
[512] All of the chest hair is matted and wet from the amount of work that he's doing.
[513] It is maximum mullet.
[514] I like how the t -shirt is just there.
[515] in principle.
[516] The sleeves are ripped off.
[517] The mid -riff is ripped off.
[518] It's just tatters on him.
[519] But it serves the purpose of no shirt, no shoes, no service.
[520] Surprise there was no creed on Kirk Cousins' list.
[521] That is a good of a surprise.
[522] Tony, I do have a question for you about the gunslinger list.
[523] So we define gunslinger as deep ball threat, right?
[524] Like, they're chucking it up far.
[525] To me, a lot of interceptions.
[526] Doesn't care about interceptions.
[527] They take chances.
[528] So I looked up the leaders last year for deep passing on PFF.
[529] And I'm not going to lie, The first one surprised me, and I wonder if it's on your list.
[530] Probably not.
[531] See, I'm not doing deep with gunslingers.
[532] More this list, it's not going to be deep.
[533] You're reckless.
[534] I'm going reckless.
[535] Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't.
[536] My word association with a gunslinger is reckless.
[537] Are these good?
[538] Number five.
[539] Define being reckless.
[540] Reckless would be like throwing it really far and it's an interception.
[541] But is this list, like, talent -wise?
[542] These are top five, or these are top five gunslingers?
[543] Are they being good quarterbacks or good gunslingers?
[544] Both.
[545] Jess, it's Brett Farr thinking he could squeeze a ball in when he can't, so he tries it anyway.
[546] Ryan Fitzpatrick.
[547] It's not like a five -yard out.
[548] It's Ryan Fitzpatrick being like, that safety ain't making this play.
[549] I'm still throwing it.
[550] James needs to be on this list.
[551] He's not going to be.
[552] That's what I'm telling you right now.
[553] To me, he's a gunslinger.
[554] He's reckless.
[555] He led the league in like touchdowns and interceptions in the same year or something.
[556] He had a 30 -30 -year.
[557] So we're clear on what this list is.
[558] James Winston.
[559] On a 7 and 9 football team, through 30 touchdowns and 30 interceptions, Tom Brady came in, eliminated the interceptions.
[560] They immediately won the Super Bowl.
[561] That's what a gunslinger is.
[562] Well, Grong came to.
[563] Farve is the only one who's allowed to win a championship and be a gunslinger.
[564] Oh, I don't know about that.
[565] No way.
[566] These are not championship quarterbacks.
[567] Hold on.
[568] We just saw a dude throw a pass behind his back.
[569] You don't think that's gunslinger.
[570] My home's is not a gunslinger.
[571] It's kind of like the all -office.
[572] He's too good.
[573] He's too good to be.
[574] He's got some traits.
[575] Like he has moments where like that's what a gunslinger looks like.
[576] You guys keep fixing good and bad.
[577] The gunslingers are a gunslinger.
[578] Some of them are good.
[579] Some of them are bad, but you just sling gunsling guns.
[580] Right.
[581] Like Baker Mayfield's a gunslinger.
[582] Gunslinger.
[583] To clear things up, James did not lead the league in touchdowns.
[584] He led the league in passing yards and interceptions that year.
[585] Thank you, Billy.
[586] It's important that we have accuracy during this gunslinger at conversation.
[587] The gunslinger himself does not happen.
[588] to have accuracy, though.
[589] No. So where are we?
[590] O 'I?
[591] O 'L