107 - Live from the Revolving Stage at the Celebrity Theatre in Phoenix

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] Okay, great.

[17] This is my side.

[18] Hi.

[19] This is, I think by the end of the night, I'm going to pass out.

[20] This is too much.

[21] Also, I do not like, there's like full butt side at certain times.

[22] There's just nothing you can do.

[23] Hey, I've been laying on the couch for two years.

[24] How does it look?

[25] How about this?

[26] Let's just talk to each other.

[27] This is like some terrible, like, political special on Comedy Central.

[28] It looks really act like our opinions matter the most.

[29] This is a first Hi My guilt's just kicking in Because I just feel really bad for everyone Immediately behind me Every time I move I think that's how it's supposed to work Oh and now Constant Oh are you mad Okay then are you mad It's like Thanksgiving Have you noticed Karen We've already started to turn Yo yeah I thought my pill was kicking in But it turns out Let's do this.

[30] Let's have a moment of silence for one whole rotation.

[31] And then...

[32] Just can everybody be quiet, please?

[33] Yeah, this is Caesar -inducing.

[34] Listen, the first thing that needs to happen is I have to apologize for my hair.

[35] For the second night in a row, my hair has gone insane.

[36] I can't control it.

[37] I didn't bring the proper instruments to get into it.

[38] I'm using a very small straightener as a curling iron, which a lot of you know is a huge mistake.

[39] You, sir, you know what that's like.

[40] It looks good back here.

[41] Does it?

[42] Oh, that's part I was worried about.

[43] Also front.

[44] Oh, you just can't win in show business.

[45] I did have to, for a live show first, have to lint, roll my back.

[46] Oh, shit.

[47] I didn't even check mine.

[48] No, you're good.

[49] You're good.

[50] I do the thing where I do eye shadow for like two hours straight and then they're like, it's time to go.

[51] And I'm like, but oh, there's so much more than eye shadow to be taken care of on this thing.

[52] How's it?

[53] Okay.

[54] We're still, you just need a bigger.

[55] Do we do this?

[56] Where did we come in?

[57] None in a minute.

[58] We can't be attached to their emotions.

[59] We can't.

[60] We just have to come here and do our thing.

[61] Okay.

[62] I kind of love that.

[63] I feel like we are only going to have, what is this called, in the round?

[64] I feel like we might need to be doing some Sondheim numbers.

[65] That's what I would like to be doing.

[66] Isn't that what usually goes on in here?

[67] There's a lot of this kind of a type of shit.

[68] You kind of can't not want to do a run -around, high -fiving thing.

[69] You can't.

[70] I have a sprained ankle, but you take a laugh.

[71] Take a laugh.

[72] It'll be fun.

[73] how many rounds I can make you do.

[74] This reminds me of last night we were texting each other in the hotel room, which we'll get to after the show, both watching the Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[75] That's what that felt like.

[76] Yep.

[77] Broken Skull Camp or whatever.

[78] Have you guys seen this?

[79] It's on CMT.

[80] It's Stone Cold Steve Austin's...

[81] Like American Ninja Warrior style?

[82] Yeah, but just with like the hottest men you've ever seen and they're like Stone Cold Steve Austin's like, buddy, are you ready?

[83] And they're like, yes sir and then they throw a fucking huge log on their shoulder and run straight up a hill and you're just like yes and so cool Steve Austin's so sweet he's not like everyone else who was he's like you got this kiddo you can do this there he goes wow it's like so sweet we were in of course separate rooms last night it would be cute if we were in the same room but we're adults and but we do these shows and then we go we immediately go back to a hotel hotel and lay in bed with our eyes open, like, oh, there's so much adrenaline.

[84] What just happened?

[85] And then we watched terrible TV.

[86] So I texted her, and I was like, please tell me you're watching Steve Austin's Broken Skull Camp or whatever the fucking name of the show is.

[87] And then they turned it on.

[88] And I got so into it.

[89] My favorite contestant, his name was Mack.

[90] He ended up winning.

[91] Thank you.

[92] Spoiler alert.

[93] And he was clearly, I think, in the military, very used to being yelled at by a Stone Cold Steve Austin style voiced man and every key would be in the middle and I mean these these the things the challenges they'd have to do is like basically scale the face of a building with no help like insane things with their shirt off yeah yeah but this guy would be in the middle of doing this thing like climb a wall of tires or whatever and Stone Cold Steve Austin and he'd stand outside going you got this buddy, you got this Mac.

[94] And then the guy, as he's climbing, he's like, thank you.

[95] He said, thank you.

[96] Every time Steve Austin encouraged him.

[97] He definitely had like a, when they were like, Mac, you ready?

[98] And he was just like, do, do, do, absolutely.

[99] And you like, oh, my God, someone raised you well.

[100] That's nice.

[101] For once.

[102] Not him, but, you know, people.

[103] He's just so positive about obstacle courses.

[104] It was just, I don't know, it's inspiring.

[105] And we'd love you guys to watch it.

[106] So we have the Stone Cold Steve, Austin Ranch here for Karen to try.

[107] We were talking about how long we would have lasted.

[108] Based on my lap around here, I'm winded.

[109] That's stage one on Broken Skull Camp.

[110] You have to do a circle, high five.

[111] And you said three days later, we would just be sitting there.

[112] You'd be smoking cigarettes on one of the obstacle courses.

[113] Yeah, 100%.

[114] I would have gone there early and hidden them around the obstacle course.

[115] Why are we talking about a different TV show?

[116] We don't have a TV show Anyhow This is There's a little bit of like a Look at us We're at the disco feel to this In a way that I've never participated in And it's very foreign to me Yeah I'm like, hey I'm like I feel like we're supposed to be doing like a silent play, like a one -on -one where we have this like, you know, it's like a, so tell me about the night of the, the, blah, da -da, and the night.

[117] Like, you're questioning me?

[118] Yeah, yeah.

[119] Walking around the room.

[120] And then I'd also walk around the room being questioned.

[121] That'd be fun.

[122] Usually the person being questioned sits.

[123] Yes.

[124] I'd fucking get up and walk too.

[125] Let's see.

[126] Let me answer your question, detective.

[127] Huh.

[128] Oh, I insulted our cab driver today really bad.

[129] Yeah.

[130] Well, he started it, though.

[131] He started it.

[132] He fully started it himself.

[133] Listen.

[134] He, look at the first one.

[135] Ten more, and you win $10.

[136] He was really sweet, though, but he fucking started it.

[137] He goes, we were, he was like, what are you guys doing in town?

[138] And our answer, it's really easy.

[139] It's easier than explaining this fucking thing.

[140] just go, oh, we're doing a comedy show.

[141] Yeah.

[142] Because then you don't have to get into...

[143] Explaining to old people what podcasts are.

[144] No offense, and young people.

[145] A lot of people have no idea what that little purple button on their phone is for.

[146] Just don't, they never looked at it.

[147] That are explaining how you love murder, but you don't love murder.

[148] Right.

[149] So we're doing a comedy show.

[150] And he was like, oh, great.

[151] No cab ride is long enough for that explanation.

[152] Just like, can you go around the block again?

[153] I just want to talk to you about when I was little.

[154] I saw this book.

[155] And he goes, Oh, which one of you ladies are funnier?

[156] What?

[157] I see silence in the cab.

[158] I mean dead fucking silent.

[159] Absence of sound in the cab.

[160] Like our therapist should have hologramed up.

[161] And I'm like, there's no good answer for this.

[162] This was actually a real issue that you brought up psychic asshole cab driver.

[163] Good job.

[164] But it's not.

[165] Like, clearly, we don't give a shit.

[166] But it's like, how the fuck do you answer that?

[167] either sound like you're like, I'll let Karen be the funnier one and I'll say Karen.

[168] It's definitely her.

[169] We're just both being phony.

[170] We would both have gone, it's me, but that's impolite, right?

[171] Oh, of ourselves?

[172] It's me. It's me. Oh, as a joke.

[173] Yeah.

[174] It's me. But instead, Georgia solved this problem.

[175] Which of you two ladies or, that's what he said?

[176] Ladies are funnier and I go, what did I say?

[177] I think it's you, sir.

[178] Yeah.

[179] And I...

[180] She fucking slammed to the cab driver into the ground.

[181] emotionally, practically chipped his fucking tooth.

[182] He was like, whoa, sorry, sorry, everybody.

[183] Me too.

[184] He really sounded, I'm not a lady.

[185] Like, he really sounded bummed.

[186] He was bummed out.

[187] And then, but I said, well, because he, of course, when you say you're here to do a comedy show, he made a joke about, oh, I'll pull over and you guys can get out and do a comedy show for me. And we're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, keep fucking driving.

[188] and so then after Georgia said that and of course she and I start fucking cackling like assholes and then I go see there's your comedy show for you right there he was like uh your hotel's right here yeah he got us get out help us with our bags no that's right he didn't no and he told me I'm disinvited to Christmas this year damn it fuck um so the the room is spinning.

[189] The rim is spinning.

[190] And I mean, okay.

[191] Yep.

[192] Thanks.

[193] No. We're so excited to be here with you guys.

[194] Yeah.

[195] This is the first.

[196] What?

[197] What?

[198] Just tell me. Well, I sprained my ankle.

[199] Do you ever tell that story?

[200] Please tell everyone why you could.

[201] This is the saddest thing in the world because we're now, so when we're on tour, we just have to, we're just constantly walking places, dragging suitcases with us.

[202] That's just all we do.

[203] Then we do shows, and then we go drag suitcases some more.

[204] And I'm putting such a cramp in our airport speed style because I'm like, and I'm trying to be kind of chill about it.

[205] It's not like, I sprained it last Sunday, so it's definitely getting better, but it, every once in a while it just hurts like fuck.

[206] So then you don't want to get into the realm where it might, you might go that direction so I just am a little bit a little faster than you really it looks like I'm trying to constantly say excuse me excuse me but I'm not I would have the highest of stilettos on right now if it weren't you know me and how much I love my meloblonics or whatever that's kind of her thing Jenny chis we were I can't remember which show we were working on but I said it was some shitty show like it was a pilot for E and of course you've all seen E for at least seven minutes you know what they're doing over there and so they kept bouncing back all our ideas they were just like that's too weird we don't understand it what's this comedy or whatever and finally I typed up a whole idea that was called shoes shoes shoes shoes they didn't like it I thought you were going to say and they gave me a million dollars to make it I'm Kim Kardashian everybody I didn't, I know so little.

[207] I don't know if you, I told you this.

[208] These are like fucking Target shoes.

[209] Yeah.

[210] Oh, wait a second.

[211] Why don't you do the whole outfit and let's see this specialty item on that dress?

[212] Oh.

[213] You threw the mic.

[214] There's a sound guy that's fucking livid right now.

[215] Sorry.

[216] Beyond livid.

[217] I'm so sorry.

[218] He brought these from home.

[219] Also, watching a person run in a circle with their hands in their pockets is insane.

[220] sanity.

[221] I don't think I've ever seen that in my life.

[222] It was really fun.

[223] It was good again.

[224] No. Well, we have three more running in circles for the show.

[225] Oh, okay.

[226] Great.

[227] So we're going to save them.

[228] Yes, save them for the middle and then second half.

[229] Right, right.

[230] Great.

[231] What about you?

[232] Do you want to talk about your outfit?

[233] Oh, Target, 2999.

[234] I can't be bothered.

[235] Unzips to the belly button.

[236] And zips to where I want it to go.

[237] Right.

[238] Yeah.

[239] Oh, wait.

[240] This is my favorite murder the podcast.

[241] Hard start.

[242] Thank you.

[243] In moments like that, I just love to picture the people who work here who are like, what the fuck is going on?

[244] What is wrong with these?

[245] Who and why?

[246] There's a need to cab drivers all the time.

[247] Who cares about your cab ride and your shoes?

[248] Stephen's not here, though.

[249] Oh, yeah, sorry about that.

[250] Stephen Steven's under the stage cranking it around They said No no no we have a whole machine for that And we're like take it out And Steven's going to do it He's going to push it He's got three cats Behind him whipping him Sweat dripping off his mustache He can barely record His headphones are so cumbersome But we are like Leave him on We passed a booth at the airport today And it was It had all these headphones And one of them were headphones That had cat ears on top of the headphones It was at you or Vince that were like We should get those for Stephen And force him to wear them while we report Just like, well, sorry, part of your job is now You have to dress like a cat around us Sorry It's only my cats will like you It's my new thing If you don't like it, talk to HR That's us there is no HR Should we No I wasn't going to say sit down You weren't?

[251] Do you want me to?

[252] I don't know what I want anymore I don't want to make you guys Hate us but these hotel rooms last night that we stayed in Oh shit We're going to keep talking about them Dude for the rest of the show We stayed at a casino And for some reason they must not have known who we were And that what we'll accept is very low because they put us.

[253] They thought we were two Celine Dianns because they put us in these sweets.

[254] Karen goes, we're all walking down the hallway together and Vince and I, like, Karen goes in and Vince and I keep walking and we hear her go, holy shit!

[255] And it like echoed.

[256] And we were like, what's going on?

[257] It was like, there was so much marble in one room.

[258] I was like, is this the Taj Mahal?

[259] Because, oh my God.

[260] four TVs, four bathrooms, two bedrooms, heated seats, there's...

[261] On the toilets, is that what you...

[262] Toilet seats, is what I met.

[263] Where else do you sit in your house?

[264] Am I wrong?

[265] I actually, I'll admit, I just would go in and sit on that toilet.

[266] Heated seats and bidet that you could just adjust as you were sitting there where I was like, in countries where badeas are normal, how do people ever get off these fucking things?

[267] I'm sorry, they're great.

[268] I mean, they're so great.

[269] They're great.

[270] And they had, okay, this is inappropriate.

[271] They had also a front bidet.

[272] Yeah.

[273] I texted you as a pussy bidet.

[274] That's right.

[275] You're allowed to say it.

[276] It's 2018.

[277] Then I got stuck up.

[278] Right?

[279] Put on your little hat and sit on the bidet.

[280] All last night I was singing, She wore a pussy bidet in my head.

[281] I was like, Georgia.

[282] What is wrong with you?

[283] And now I'm singing it on a circular stage.

[284] Yeah.

[285] To paying customers.

[286] I hope there's not an old couple here who has like season tickets to this theater.

[287] I'm so scared.

[288] If that's true, this is a true crime, uh -oh.

[289] This is a true crime comedy podcast.

[290] Yeah.

[291] How does that work, Karen?

[292] Oh, thanks.

[293] Yeah.

[294] You don't get to pick one of those things.

[295] They've come together.

[296] That's right.

[297] It's not your choice.

[298] We can't help it.

[299] And if you don't like it, get the fuck out.

[300] That's usually what we say.

[301] It's rude.

[302] It's rude, but it's what we usually say to everybody.

[303] As a, you know, as a warm -up pillow.

[304] You know, to get the crowd on our side.

[305] We ask people to leave.

[306] And then we cackle into the microphone.

[307] Okay.

[308] Oh, that's not...

[309] Uh -oh.

[310] Oh, no. Are you kidding me?

[311] No, I saw it.

[312] I know what?

[313] You're doing.

[314] This is mayhem.

[315] This is mayhem.

[316] And whose water is whose?

[317] Oh, no. I think this is mine?

[318] I've only taken a sip of mine.

[319] I keep drinking your drinks.

[320] This is by mine.

[321] I think...

[322] No, this is near my paper.

[323] Okay.

[324] Shit, we should have rehearsed this.

[325] I'm so sorry, you guys.

[326] I'm so sorry.

[327] We both missed rehearsal.

[328] This is the dress rehearsal, right?

[329] This is dress.

[330] This is tech dress.

[331] And then tomorrow night is the full show.

[332] Okay, great.

[333] All right.

[334] When I do my hair with an actual curling iron.

[335] Let's sit down.

[336] Okay.

[337] It's sit down time.

[338] I guess that makes sense.

[339] If we face it.

[340] Well, face in.

[341] I'm getting a little nauseous.

[342] Seasick, so this is perfect time to sit down.

[343] I love this rug.

[344] I've got to say.

[345] This what?

[346] Normally we have kind of like a, rug.

[347] A beige rug.

[348] A beige rug or an oriental rug that looks like someone spent their last $40 at Pier 1.

[349] But this, do you have Pier 1 here?

[350] It's a wonderful store if you don't.

[351] Wonderful old European shipped in cookies that are from like seven years ago.

[352] They're on sale.

[353] Anyway, I love a pop of color in the middle of a rotating stage.

[354] I do love it.

[355] So everyone knows where to focus their eyeballs.

[356] That's right.

[357] Hey, this is exciting.

[358] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[359] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster detectives.

[360] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[361] Who killed Saz?

[362] And were they really after Charles?

[363] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[364] This season, murder hits close to home.

[365] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[366] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[367] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[368] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[369] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[370] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[371] Goodbye.

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[373] Absolutely.

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[392] Goodbye.

[393] Okay, I'm going first today.

[394] Oh, that's right.

[395] Right?

[396] That's right.

[397] Georgia goes first.

[398] Thank you.

[399] All right.

[400] Okay.

[401] This.

[402] What if this controlled the stage?

[403] Like a weird bus steering wheel.

[404] And I want to go the opposite way.

[405] Tea cups.

[406] What?

[407] It's like the teacups.

[408] Teacups.

[409] But really slow.

[410] And with microphones.

[411] Phoenix, this is your your.

[412] trunk murders.

[413] I don't know the trunk murders.

[414] All right.

[415] I'm trying to remember what photos.

[416] There she is.

[417] Oh.

[418] That works.

[419] Soled it.

[420] Okay.

[421] So that is your friend Winnie Ruth McKinnell.

[422] She goes by Ruth.

[423] Sorry, I don't know.

[424] A lot of nicknames.

[425] Nicknames on this one.

[426] I've got to take a look at Winnie.

[427] What if she just fucking ass over tea kettles off the stage?

[428] I sprained my other ankle.

[429] Come on.

[430] She's doing it for attention.

[431] She has a nice finger wave.

[432] Am I wrong?

[433] Yes, you were right.

[434] Okay.

[435] But is she the bad one?

[436] Yes, she is.

[437] Maybe.

[438] Oh.

[439] Or maybe not.

[440] Spoiler alert.

[441] You just said that with so much anger.

[442] I know.

[443] Norland, Lord, I hate everything.

[444] Okay.

[445] She's born January 29th, 1905 in Indiana.

[446] She moves to Phoenix as an adult after marrying.

[447] a dude who I'm never going to mention again.

[448] What?

[449] Oh, he's a physician, spent a lot of time on the road, and also on morphine.

[450] You said you weren't going to mention anything about him.

[451] That's all, again.

[452] Oh, he spent time on the road and on morphine?

[453] Yep.

[454] I stepped on your joke.

[455] I'm sorry.

[456] I'll say it again.

[457] Do it again.

[458] So at 26 years old, our friend Ruth here takes a job as a medical secretary in a Phoenix Clinic to support herself at this time.

[459] she meets a friend named John J. Halloran, whose nickname is Happy Jack.

[460] I wanted to guess.

[461] Oh, sorry.

[462] I was going to say jinkies.

[463] I don't know why.

[464] Nope, it's Happy Jack.

[465] Happy Jack Halloran.

[466] So that means he's a drunk, right?

[467] He's a 44 -year -old, well -to -do Phoenix businessman.

[468] He's like in the political and social circles.

[469] He's like, well -known dude.

[470] He's married, but that doesn't stop him from getting laid by other women.

[471] So Ruth and Happy Jack become friendly.

[472] They start hooking up.

[473] Also, she meets at work, a woman named Agnes and Leroy.

[474] She's a 32 -year -old X -ray technician who worked at the clinic and her roommate, 24 -year -old Hedwig, Samuelson.

[475] I mean, these are some old fucking.

[476] fashion names.

[477] Who's named Agnes anymore?

[478] I hope someone.

[479] Yeah.

[480] Someone asshole in L .A. named their child that, like, there's a four -year -old running around in whole foods.

[481] Aggie, Aggie, don't touch the kale.

[482] What did mommy tell you about the fresh salmon?

[483] We only eat organic, Aggie.

[484] Okay.

[485] Unfortunately, Hedwig is going by Sammy, so unfortunately, we don't have that name.

[486] in our lives anymore.

[487] I think we have a photo of Happy Jack.

[488] There he is.

[489] He seems like a hoot.

[490] What's up, Jackie Boy?

[491] That's a oval cranium.

[492] Isn't it?

[493] Back then, that was an insane slam.

[494] You, sir, have an oval cranium.

[495] Good day.

[496] I said good day.

[497] Thoughts, feelings?

[498] Well, I just had, I just thought of last night, we did a story last night where there, it was the Binions murder in Las Vegas.

[499] There was somebody in the story, I can't remember who it was, who referred to having sex as laying pipe.

[500] Yeah.

[501] That's true.

[502] It wasn't us.

[503] It was someone truly.

[504] It was a direct quote.

[505] It was a Wikipedia rip.

[506] Rips from the Wikipedia.

[507] So I was just going to say, but it's an old reference that some people wouldn't get, which is that guy lays pipe?

[508] Apparently, tons of pipe.

[509] So much pipe.

[510] Yeah.

[511] I mean.

[512] He's like the Department of Energy, that guy.

[513] It's fucking laying.

[514] Pipe.

[515] So Agnes and Sammy are also friendly with our happy friend, and they all become friends.

[516] Ruth even moves in with the two women for a couple months in 1931, they are all, like, kind of obsessed with Happy Jack financially and emotionally.

[517] I don't know, man. He took care of them somehow.

[518] He gave, he fed needs that, I guess, a physician and morphine addict husband can't fulfill.

[519] He checked their pulse, but really slow, stuff like that.

[520] So, okay, and then, um, they were, but they were all super were defensive for Jack's attention.

[521] I don't know.

[522] They all loved him.

[523] So, unfortunately, I wrote, the women weren't as woke as we are today, so differences developed between Ruth and the other two women.

[524] I guess it was a jealousy over happy...

[525] I wrote, this is so stupid.

[526] Reported to be jealousy over happy Jack's, happy Jack.

[527] That doesn't make any sense.

[528] That's stupid.

[529] Stupid.

[530] Cut that out.

[531] if it's there you gotta say it I mean I wrote it and I left it in after like 17 rereads you believed in it I clearly had some fucking thing in my mind you liked it until you were in the round yeah and then it got scary yeah but I felt like I needed to be honest okay soon so fucking Ruth got the fuck out of there moved out back into her own apartment close by really quick clarification they were all fucking happy Jack I don't know.

[532] It's really hard to tell, like, I think Ruth definitely was fucking happy Jack, I think.

[533] Okay.

[534] And maybe somebody else.

[535] And maybe they were, others were in love.

[536] Maybe these two women were in a relationship together.

[537] It's kind of hard to tell.

[538] Oh, okay.

[539] So we don't really know.

[540] It's all very vague, and it's like good close friends, stuff like that.

[541] Exactly.

[542] Okay.

[543] I think there's a photo of the two ladies as well.

[544] Lifelong roommates.

[545] Oh, yes.

[546] There's the lifelong roommates.

[547] Agnes Ann, Leroy, and Sarah Hedvick Sam.

[548] So Agnes and Anne and Sammy are their names.

[549] I'm like, Agnes and Hedvig, come on.

[550] Come on, you guys.

[551] Those are the best names.

[552] Boo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, do, do.

[553] Okay.

[554] They're not as woke.

[555] Everyone leaves.

[556] That's not true.

[557] Ruth leaves.

[558] Okay.

[559] But I guess they're all still friends.

[560] So here's the story of the murder, according to police and prosecutors.

[561] It's this.

[562] On the night of October 16th, 1931, Agnes and Sammy, the Rumi's, have a heated argument with Ruth over Happy Jack's affection and then I read all these other articles and it could also have been over someone who had a friend who had syphilis and they were going to tell on her or it could have been over a friend who was a lesbian and they all thought about it they were eating rice pudding maybe it was about the rice pudding I don't know it's really hard to tell all we know is there was a fight about a thing and there was rice pudding oh for real yeah oh they were eating rice that's all we know was this on a recipe website that you got this story stirring three tablespoons of murder hate so they all get in a fight Ruth fucking grabs a gun I guess it was her gun that she had left behind for some reason and they start fighting and Ruth shoots Agnes and Sammy with a 25 caliber handgun they're in the bungalow she fucking kills both of those ladies right there the way you said she shot them in the bungalow I knew that would be weird that was an old -fashioned way to say right in the bungalow right in the front door the fungalo okay so then Ruth and maybe an accomplice dismember the body of Sammy and okay it gets gross puts her head torso and lower legs into a black shipping trunk and Sammy's upper legs in a beige valise and hat box.

[563] So this fucking little...

[564] Did you just call her arms her upper legs?

[565] Because that's rad.

[566] Just other legs?

[567] Upper legs.

[568] Thighs.

[569] I copied and basted.

[570] You have got to Proufreet.

[571] Her upper leg.

[572] You don't know you have your legs, but then if you pull on them, more leg comes out.

[573] Okay, that the extra leg was in the other trunk.

[574] I wish I had cold arms, upper legs.

[575] So bad, and I didn't do that.

[576] Next time.

[577] I'm crying.

[578] Don't cry in the round.

[579] There's no crying in the round.

[580] My, my.

[581] There's no crying in the round.

[582] No, it was her upper legs.

[583] So who wrote this?

[584] It wasn't me. Her head, torso, and lower legs, and then her upper legs and yeah, where the fuck is the rest of her body?

[585] There's not a ton of body left after that.

[586] Neck?

[587] Where's the neck?

[588] Where did they put that fucking neck?

[589] Listen, I want to know.

[590] We are professional.

[591] I can't tell you how badly there's two microphones on the ground right there like for the hometown and I just want to lay down and start telling my story in one of them.

[592] So bad.

[593] Just take a rest.

[594] You can.

[595] Stretch your upper leg.

[596] out and just take a rest.

[597] You got to.

[598] Take some mute time.

[599] We are on the first page of this.

[600] We just fucking started.

[601] Yeah.

[602] The people working here are texting their honey.

[603] It's like, it's going to be a long night, baby.

[604] I'm not.

[605] I'm not going to get home by 3 .30.

[606] I'm not going to make it.

[607] Sorry.

[608] Sorry.

[609] There's just these two fucking women.

[610] You know.

[611] D -da -da -da -da.

[612] Okay.

[613] Everything's.

[614] Okay.

[615] And then Agnes.

[616] And then Agnes' body, I feel like Ruth, after dismembering Sammy's body, he's like, fuck this shit.

[617] And she puts Agnes' whole body into a second black shipping trunk.

[618] I mean, it's hard to get a bunch of stuff done at once anyway.

[619] It had to be, like, there had to be an accomplice, right?

[620] She's like a little thing, and she's dismembering.

[621] I don't know.

[622] By herself?

[623] I mean, I would hope so just for the impact alone of just...

[624] Probably not.

[625] Okay.

[626] Sorry.

[627] We lost you, didn't we?

[628] So maybe Happy Jack was there, right?

[629] Sure.

[630] So two days later, so the bodies are in the thing, two days later, on Sunday, October 18th, 1931, Ruth, whose left hand was bandaged from apparently a gunshot wound sustained during the fight.

[631] So she's got a fucking bullet in her hand.

[632] And she just covered the bodies?

[633] No, that doesn't make any sense.

[634] Yeah, that's a little crazy.

[635] It would take forever.

[636] Just going on how long it takes me to get around the airport.

[637] it would take a really fucking long time to dismember a body with a shot hand I also like the idea that happened in the house it was just like gunfight in the house okay the house still stands this is true after party in the yes get on the bus let's drive to a house and then just drive away because you can't go inside someone lives there they're like raising children and they have a life they don't want you there okay so with her hand and her luggage.

[638] She boards the train from Phoenix to Los Angeles.

[639] She gets to Los Angeles the next morning.

[640] The baggage agent at the train is like, why the fuck are there fluids escaping these packages?

[641] And oh my God, it also stinks.

[642] That is not a direct quote.

[643] I wrote that.

[644] You are taking real liberties with this story.

[645] I am paraphrasing.

[646] So sorry, the trunks arrive in L .A. and there's fluid coming out of them?

[647] And they smell.

[648] Not cool.

[649] Because it's been three or four days now.

[650] So he's like, I'm going to tag these and move these aside.

[651] Smart.

[652] He asks Ruth for the key, and she's like, I don't have it.

[653] Bye.

[654] And so her brother picks her up, and she disappears.

[655] Her brother doesn't know anything about the crimes and leaves the trunk behind.

[656] Later that day, police came to the train station to check out the trunks.

[657] They crack the lock, and they discover the bodies.

[658] There is a photo of it online.

[659] Don't worry, I didn't post it.

[660] I don't know if it's real.

[661] looks real.

[662] And it's them looking into a trunk with a dead body inside it's just the body.

[663] It's fucked up.

[664] Okay.

[665] I have seen some things.

[666] This was back when the police, when a crime would happen someone would be murdered, right?

[667] And then they're laying their dead and then the police would gather around and then they'd be like, oh wait, sorry.

[668] Hey, reporters.

[669] Get in here.

[670] We're investigating a crime.

[671] Come on.

[672] Hold on.

[673] Let me look smart.

[674] Oh.

[675] Hey.

[676] I think we have a photo of the trunks though.

[677] And don't worry.

[678] I don't think the bodies are, yeah, they're there they are.

[679] Oh, they look old timey.

[680] They look like something that'd be on sale at a store in Beverly for like $4 ,000.

[681] Oh, totally.

[682] Yeah.

[683] Fucking LA.

[684] And it's like repurposed shrunks for $4 ,000.

[685] Fuck everything.

[686] Okay.

[687] Okay.

[688] So they're like, oh shit, they found the bodies.

[689] Okay.

[690] But so after leaving the station, Ruth hit out for several days.

[691] It's still with a fucking bullet in her hand.

[692] It's now turning into gangrene.

[693] Sure.

[694] Yeah.

[695] And she then finally is like, this isn't working.

[696] Surrender's to the police on October 23rd, 1931.

[697] This isn't working.

[698] She like tries to take a handful of grapes or whatever and they just keep falling through the hole.

[699] This is insane.

[700] I can't live like this anymore.

[701] 911 once you're emergency.

[702] Well, okay.

[703] I need grapes.

[704] Okay.

[705] I'm starving.

[706] for grapes.

[707] The murder is like crazy headlines across the country.

[708] They call her the tiger woman and the blonde butcher.

[709] And eventually the case comes to be known as the trunk murders and she's the trunk murderess.

[710] Here's a photo of her when she turned herself in.

[711] How fucking glamorous.

[712] Oh my God.

[713] Is this real?

[714] It looks like the remake in the 70s of her.

[715] Doesn't it?

[716] Can you see it?

[717] Go see it.

[718] I can see it, but also, from here, it's okay, it's okay.

[719] From here, it looks like her head is so much bigger than her body that it looks like one of those illustrations you get at Disneyland where you're like, I like skateboarding and horses or whatever, and then your head is like this and your body's this big skateboarding.

[720] Anyway, hold on.

[721] This is weird.

[722] I want to watch you watch.

[723] I have to get Lasic.

[724] Let's do it right now.

[725] That's, first of all, does she have a fox stole on her shoulder?

[726] Yes, because she fucking stole that box stole.

[727] Yes, she did.

[728] This, like, place she went to to hide out.

[729] That's, for real?

[730] Yeah.

[731] Oh, that's factual?

[732] Yeah.

[733] I mean, that sounded like total bullshit.

[734] Well, I blame the one article I read that in, then.

[735] At on upper legs .com.

[736] Upper legs.

[737] God damn it.

[738] Okay.

[739] Phoenix.

[740] That's her showing up at the police station, like, oh, I did it.

[741] Yeah.

[742] And I'm here to say I did it.

[743] Yeah.

[744] And my hand hurts.

[745] Maybe it smells.

[746] Maybe it's Mabeline.

[747] Okay, so at this point, Phoenix Police had already found the crime scene at the bungalow.

[748] And at that point, neighbors and reporters had been like, do -de -do all over there, like stomping on everything in the crime scene as they, you know how they always do that.

[749] Yeah.

[750] It's after police invite reporters in, and they used to be like, now let's get the neighbors, this street.

[751] Okay, now the next street.

[752] We'll go south.

[753] Yeah.

[754] We're going to any more footprints on the walls, please.

[755] Doesn't any children that want to see this murder up close?

[756] Let's get them in front.

[757] Touch everything, please.

[758] Okay.

[759] So, in fact, a day after the crime scene was found, the bungalow's landlord put an ad in the newspaper, and I'm going to guess it was like, free tours of the bungalow for 10 cents for peace.

[760] No, that's not a free tour.

[761] Tours of the bungalow for 10 cents a piece.

[762] That's right.

[763] That doesn't, there you go.

[764] Over the next three weeks, hundreds of curiosity seekers, a .k .a. fucking old -timey murderinos, right?

[765] That's right.

[766] Oh, we've been around for a long, long time.

[767] Murderinos.

[768] There hasn't been a martyno.

[769] I just stole your bit.

[770] You got to do it.

[771] I was emulating you.

[772] No, it's stolen from one million other people.

[773] Good.

[774] The haunted prospector is a bit that's been around for generations.

[775] Okay.

[776] So then the police The police theorized that Agnes and Sammy were shot while asleep also.

[777] They weren't really sure.

[778] The mattresses like one disappeared, one was found with no bloodstains on it though, so clearly that's not what happened.

[779] At her trial in 1932, the dismemberment aspect of the double sling is never addressed in court because Ruth was tried only for the murder of Leroy, whose body was not dismembered and never tried for the murder of Sammy for some reason.

[780] Happy John Jack was present at the trial every day but never spoke on record and was never called as a witness.

[781] And people think it's because he had a lot of connections in the scene.

[782] Oh yeah, I saw his suit.

[783] Yeah.

[784] Sweet.

[785] Yeah.

[786] Three -pieceer.

[787] Or maybe anything to do with it.

[788] I don't fucking know.

[789] Okay.

[790] The state argued that she acted with premeditation and that she inflicted the gunshot wound to her hand to try to bolster her claim of self -defense.

[791] But then I'm like, well, why run then?

[792] If you're like, boom, I shot my hand, now let me chop the bodies, have been leave.

[793] Yeah.

[794] And, you know.

[795] And get gangrene.

[796] This is the perfect alibi.

[797] So on February 8th, 1932, Ruth is found guilty and sentenced to die by hanging.

[798] Whoa, in L .A.?

[799] No, we're here.

[800] Oh, okay.

[801] No, don't worry, we're...

[802] We would never.

[803] We're not like that.

[804] L .A., we're so decent.

[805] So, oh, she was sentenced to die on Good Friday.

[806] You're friends with that day.

[807] We love that day in Catholicism.

[808] We made it up.

[809] but finally at that one she was like all right fuck this shit I'm not getting fucking hung she told her lawyer she wants I want to talk and that Jack happy Jack had told her that to exonerate something of something that if she agreed that had said that it was her fault in an accident she would have gotten off so don't say that I was involved basically so Jack was like I was involved but say I wasn't and everything will be fine.

[810] Oh, right.

[811] And she was like, guess what?

[812] He was involved.

[813] But her death sentence is overturned after a 10 -day hearing because they found her now mentally incompetent.

[814] I think she acted crazy, or she was crazy, maybe.

[815] Let's see here.

[816] So then it's discovered that, sorry, do, do it.

[817] Okay, so he's indicted.

[818] Then Happy Jack's indicted as an accomplice to murder with Ruth as the star witness.

[819] So she's like, I'm testifying being.

[820] It's against him?

[821] Uh -huh.

[822] I hurt the love of her life?

[823] Oh, yeah.

[824] No, that's her husband.

[825] Was it?

[826] I don't know.

[827] I think he stuck by her side, actually.

[828] He was like, I'll be here on morphine if you need me. Poor guy.

[829] He's just in the courtroom shooting up.

[830] I'm a doctor.

[831] She said, I'm going to be hanged for something Jack Helleran is responsible for.

[832] I was convicted of murder, but shot in self -defense.

[833] And then she said he removed all the evidence.

[834] and he's responsible for the whole thing, like sending her, he told her exactly what to do.

[835] And then so she testified that she had gone over to their house on an invitation to play bridge and basically killed them both in self -defense after they all fought and the women physically attacked her.

[836] Because the bridge.

[837] No, because of rice pudding.

[838] Oh, right, right, right.

[839] So she said then, Happy Jack came over, took care of everything, and then Mike told her what to do.

[840] So on January 25th, 1933, the judge freed Happy Jack saying the state's case was inconsistent.

[841] And so her death sentence of return she's committed to the state's only mental institution, the Arizona State Asylum for the Insane in Phoenix.

[842] Oh.

[843] Oh, do we have a bused in over here?

[844] From the asylum?

[845] They get discount tickets to the celebrity theater.

[846] Welcome.

[847] I don't think it's called that anymore, unfortunately.

[848] She escaped from...

[849] Wait, sir, can I just ask a question?

[850] This is the worst idea, but I'm going to ask the audience a question anyway.

[851] Is that place haunted?

[852] Is that why people are cheering?

[853] Thank you.

[854] Stop talking.

[855] That's how to do it.

[856] Right?

[857] I open the door and then I slam it in your face.

[858] So, she escapes, so Ruth goes away.

[859] She escapes from the institution between 1933 and 1963, between 30 years of staying there.

[860] She escaped six times.

[861] Yes.

[862] Partly because they gave her a key because everyone liked her.

[863] And, in fact, she got so good at finger waves.

[864] She was like, how you mentioned her finger waves?

[865] She was the finger wave queen.

[866] And, like, people in society would come to the institution to get finger waves from her.

[867] No. Do you think, and I know this is wrong to ask, could she have been using the hole in her hand as the finger wave queen?

[868] You don't know.

[869] You weren't there.

[870] Hold on.

[871] Stand still.

[872] Stay still.

[873] Mrs. Crabapple.

[874] Stay still.

[875] Two more.

[876] I don't know what.

[877] Turns out so good, I just don't care.

[878] 23s could do.

[879] I can't remember.

[880] Is that what, are we talking about the 30s?

[881] Yes.

[882] So in one instance, when she escaped, she walked all the way from Yuma, Arizona, to the old Southern Pacific Railroad track.

[883] Along the old Southern Pacific railroad tracks.

[884] Yes.

[885] Bend all over her shoulder.

[886] I don't know.

[887] She escaped for the final time on October 8, 1963, and lived in San Francisco for six.

[888] years.

[889] Holy shit.

[890] She started the hippie movement.

[891] Hey man. Using a fake name and worked as a live and made for a wealthy family.

[892] Her identity was eventually discovered because her fucking shitty nephew who helped her escape was like, give me money or I'm fucking turning you in.

[893] And I'm paraphrasing it.

[894] No, that's a quote from Wikipedia.

[895] And she was like, fuck you, my nephew.

[896] And he was like, turned her in.

[897] Wow.

[898] Apparently.

[899] That's what I read.

[900] I have to say I just had a moment of fear because my grandmother was a living maiden nanny for rich people what if it was hold on a second what if it all comes together tonight in Phoenix I thought of that too be amazing be like wait put that picture up again and then I have to go really close hold on maybe they work together though I have the name of the city but I don't remember it let's find out San Francisco Yeah.

[901] I meant like the area.

[902] But I said city.

[903] Pacific Heights?

[904] Yeah.

[905] Okay.

[906] So her identity...

[907] Neighborhoods, the mission?

[908] Yes.

[909] Her identity is eventually discovered.

[910] She's taken back to Arizona in 1969.

[911] She hires attorneys.

[912] Basically, she's paroled and released on December, in December of 1971, and she moves to Stockholm, California.

[913] Stockton?

[914] It's you and me, baby.

[915] It's you and me. I am not drunk.

[916] I have a fucking, I have.

[917] She has not a touch of anything as far as we know.

[918] It's vodka.

[919] Give it to me. I just get excited.

[920] Stockholm.

[921] I actually suffer from Stockton syndrome.

[922] Damn it.

[923] You had it.

[924] I couldn't do it.

[925] I couldn't do it.

[926] I couldn't do it because I am very drunk.

[927] In 1983, Arizona issued her an absolute discharge, meaning she's no longer a parole.

[928] She died in October of 1998 at the age of 93.

[929] Fuck!

[930] Yeah.

[931] How bad lady?

[932] Yeah, she's, there's something going on there.

[933] Yeah, there is.

[934] Eventually there is a confession letter written in Ruth's hand to her attorney, and she says it's her first and only confession.

[935] She stated that she alone planned and carried out the murders with whom, and it was because she and Leah Worry were allegedly competing for Happy Jack's affection, and she stated that she had not planned to kill Sammy, but did so after Sammy had heard the gunshot and walked into the murder scene and began fighting with Ruth.

[936] And she acted alone and the whole thing.

[937] And yeah, the letter had gotten suppressed, but it eventually came out.

[938] And that's, and, oh.

[939] So she, she really did it?

[940] Like she confessed?

[941] I don't know so.

[942] It's hard to say.

[943] It's hard to say.

[944] Because that could have been really satisfying as an ending.

[945] I know.

[946] Yes.

[947] But then yes I think I think she got in a fight accident not accidentally shot them and then Happy Jack helped her do all this shit he eventually fell out of favor with the local Phoenix population wonder why slept with too many wives probably this city was literally filled with pipe there was so much it was everywhere you couldn't walk the horses were falling down or what have you and he died in Tucson in 1939 Yeah, and the letter was anonymously donated to the Arizona State Archives, the confession letter.

[948] Oh, wow.

[949] And that Arizona, Phoenix especially, is your trunk murder.

[950] Trunk murder!

[951] That was great.

[952] Thank you.

[953] The best part of these murders in these cities is that for the rest of my life, people are going to come up to me and say, you know, my grandma knew Ruth, and here's what really happened.

[954] And then they give you these little tidbits of information that you're just like, fuck after the fact.

[955] Yeah, but you're like, oh my God, I would have known.

[956] It's really cool.

[957] It happens in the VIP line all the time where people come up and they're like, oh, you know the one thing about your thing and it's like, oh, the thing that would have made it great.

[958] Thanks.

[959] Call it the meat and great line or we sound like assholes.

[960] Oh, that's true.

[961] The VIP line.

[962] Oh, VIP.

[963] You know what I mean?

[964] Yeah, but we hand out champagne and everybody gets a car.

[965] Right.

[966] I just want to say that I feel even more disoriented being on a spinning stage.

[967] and I want you guys to know that I'm using you as my marker of where we are because of you're a beautiful hair and dresses that every one every time I mean you're all great everyone's great but every time we come around I'm like okay I'm home all right everything's okay is it because you can't see anything but bright colors I can't see anything I love bright colors I love my little pony I'm just wondering like I don't know where we came in.

[968] You know what?

[969] They're pointing.

[970] It's gone now.

[971] A thing came down.

[972] It's gone.

[973] We can't go back out that way.

[974] We have to climb out of here, Steve Austin style.

[975] But my upper legs are so weak.

[976] My upper legs can't take the climb.

[977] All right.

[978] Okay.

[979] Well, I hope you would all know that the one thing I would do if I come to Phoenix is the Jody Arias.

[980] Again, for people, if this is your first time, or you know, You bought tickets on a whim, on a dare.

[981] We're not cheering for Jody areas.

[982] That's not what's happening.

[983] It seems like that's what's happening.

[984] If you were not to investigate it, that is what just happened.

[985] But it isn't really what's happening.

[986] Not really.

[987] If you were on Twitter and saw the headline of what just happened, you would write a mean thing without reading the article.

[988] That's right.

[989] That you would be wrong.

[990] That's right.

[991] But it doesn't matter.

[992] All right.

[993] And here's the funniest part of her, and for me, I really didn't like this when it was happening real time, so I never checked into this crime.

[994] I never paid attention to do it or listen to it.

[995] Because to me, it just seemed like it had become this, you know, five times worse than the OJ trial type of thing where they're like, okay, hot girl, committed murder, let's just talk about all these dirty things.

[996] And that's really kind of what it was.

[997] but, you know, if you boil it down.

[998] But it's a pretty fucking incredible story.

[999] So most of this information is from a timeline that a guy named David Lorre wrote for the Huffington Post.

[1000] But I also watched a two -part snap on ID.

[1001] They had to give her a two -parter.

[1002] She's so legendary.

[1003] And then, of course, I watched this superb made -for -TV movie, Jody Arias dirty little secret incredible who plays her oh I'm glad you asked a woman named Tanya Raymond who was fucking excellent I'm not being sarcastic she plays Jody Arias with this complete like she's like sexy with dead eyes which is one of the scariest things that you can do to a person is just be like I'm super into you but you have like doll eyes Ted Bundy oh so see Ted Bundy and she's really gorgeous and she just is kind of like always just low level kind of manipulating everybody all the time and she also is used to getting what she wants obviously so when somebody's like no thanks she fucking kicks it into overdrive so our girl Tanya Raymond nailed it.

[1004] Good for her yeah she was very good anyhow so also a lot of this oh there she is that's the real Jodi Arias as a blonde you might not recognize her that's not courtroom Jody, when Jody went librarian for the court to prove that she was, I don't know, smart or normal.

[1005] Is this what she normally looked like?

[1006] Well, she started out as kind of a, but she had blonde hair for a while, and then she goes brunette.

[1007] By the time she has a mugshot, she has brunette hair.

[1008] She kind of looks like my sister -in -law.

[1009] Is that weird?

[1010] It's great.

[1011] Yolanda?

[1012] She does look like a Yolanda.

[1013] Okay.

[1014] On June 9, 2008, a woman named Mimi Hall, who is friends with Travis Alexander, is worried about him because he has not answered his phone or showed up for work for days, for five days.

[1015] And she and all their friends were planning on going on a trip to Cancun, and it was the next day.

[1016] And so they were trying to get a hold of him to make plans about this trip, and he wasn't answering any.

[1017] anybody's calls.

[1018] So finally, she called a bunch of the friends and said, let's go to his house and check in on this, because this is really weird and it's not like him at all.

[1019] So they get to the house, and he was a very successful businessman.

[1020] He was 30 years old, but he had a 4 ,000 square foot house.

[1021] He drove a BMW.

[1022] He was, like, doing very, very well for himself.

[1023] But he did have a roommate, and I think a couple roommates in his house.

[1024] And so when the friends showed up, they were like, is Travis here?

[1025] And the friends go, no. he went on a trip to Cancun, which how fucking scary would that be when you're the person going on the trip with him where you're like, no, that's tomorrow.

[1026] So they all realize something terrible is happening, and so they go to check his room.

[1027] And when they go into his room, it is a fucking blood bath.

[1028] His dead body is in his shower, and the bathroom is covered in blood.

[1029] There's blood everywhere, and there's up to six feet on the walls.

[1030] And there's a bloody palm print very clearly on one of the walls.

[1031] His body is, he's got, he was stabbed 27 times in the back.

[1032] Holy shit.

[1033] His throat was slit.

[1034] And then he was post -mortem shot in the head.

[1035] What the fuck?

[1036] Yeah.

[1037] So just fucking overkill like crazy.

[1038] So also his body had been sitting there for between four to five days.

[1039] So it was in an advanced state of decomposition.

[1040] So this fucking friends found him like, it's horrifying.

[1041] So they call 911, and when they explain what's going on, the police were on their way.

[1042] At one point, the 911 operator asks this girl who called Mimi, she goes, do you have, does he have any enemies, do you have any idea of who could be responsible for this?

[1043] And she goes, yes, his ex -girlfriend Jody, on the 911 call.

[1044] No way.

[1045] Yeah.

[1046] So all the friends, of course, didn't like her.

[1047] They went out for like almost two years, and of course, it was.

[1048] was like, why are you dating this girl type of thing the whole time?

[1049] So when the cops are investigating the house, nothing is out of place, nothing is taken, nothing's missing, nothing's even disturbed.

[1050] And that's why the roommates thought he was gone.

[1051] Because nothing had been used.

[1052] There's like, the house was perfectly clean.

[1053] When they check the washing machine, they find a digital camera inside.

[1054] And it had been run through the rinse cycle.

[1055] But the cops take it and they give it to the lab, I don't know, the digital camera lab, and they're like, see what you can pull off of this thing.

[1056] So a bit of background.

[1057] This all started in September of 2006.

[1058] So Travis Alexander met Jody Arias at a work conference in Las Vegas.

[1059] They both worked for a company called prepaid legal services, and it's described as a multi -layered marketing firm.

[1060] Red flag, we all know.

[1061] Right?

[1062] In the thing they described, I think it was on SNAP.

[1063] They were like, kind of like Amway.

[1064] And I was like, uh -huh.

[1065] So she had just gotten hired there.

[1066] And this conference was basically all the like top sellers.

[1067] And it's like a bunch of motivational seminars where they're like, here's how you can sell too, because you're special and you can do.

[1068] And it's like, what is it?

[1069] It's some kind of weird like legal insurance something.

[1070] So it's very specific.

[1071] But in the film, Jodi Arias, dirty little secret, he's kind of presented as this, almost like a motivational speaker.

[1072] And she's sitting in, she just started there, she's sitting in the crowd watching him.

[1073] And she's immediately into him.

[1074] She was like right off.

[1075] Good question.

[1076] What's the dirty little secret that she's fucking crazy?

[1077] Because it's not a secret that she killed.

[1078] I really, you think that the name would be Jody Arias fucking crazy?

[1079] bitch.

[1080] I don't know.

[1081] Like something, it's not a secret.

[1082] It may have been that he ventured, because he was like a good boy, he was very inactive in the Mormon church.

[1083] Guys, you get up and do stuff, I won't be able to focus because as I said already, you're leaving?

[1084] Oh my, what am?

[1085] Okay, you'll be there.

[1086] Okay, good.

[1087] You know what?

[1088] You tell people you need them and they fucking go.

[1089] hologram of Karen's therapist comes up Michelle Can you hear you Michelle?

[1090] I will always be here for you It's one of it as just me being a puppet Let's get a therapy sock If I put it far enough away from your face You won't be able to tell that it's a secret I think she's really here She's in the 10th row Um I interrupted you No it's okay So the dirty little secret No no no Well, I have to tell you now.

[1091] Oh.

[1092] Because he was very active in the Mormon church.

[1093] And so he dated her, but everyone's like, why?

[1094] And then he would break up with her and, like, then they'd get back together secretly.

[1095] And it was all that kind of on the D .L. type of stuff.

[1096] Got it.

[1097] The dirty little.

[1098] She herself was the dirty little secret.

[1099] Oh, look inside yourself and fine.

[1100] Why am I?

[1101] The dirty secret all along.

[1102] Okay, so.

[1103] so Jody at the time lived in California she lived in Palm Desert we know, yes that's right meth heads in the audience I think she was over there so there is in Jody R Us dirty little secret there is a scene where she comes on to him after he gives his speech and she's just like I just really liked what you were talking about and it is so embarrassing Like, she goes so full court press on him.

[1104] I was like, Jody, no. To the TV.

[1105] My cheeks got red in the living room.

[1106] I was like, she is going for it.

[1107] And he says, no thanks.

[1108] Because he doesn't believe in premarital sex.

[1109] Okay.

[1110] And then she's like, well, maybe this or that or whatever.

[1111] And this is in the film.

[1112] And then he goes, and really, I just want to get to know you.

[1113] and then she's like hard eyes but crazy ones the hearts have hands show them because it's good it's look and so from that point on they spoke every day court records would later show that the couple exchanged 82 ,000 emails what the fuck 82 ,000 emails I don't even think Vince and I have said any 2 ,000 words to each other and we're married.

[1114] And we really like each other.

[1115] Yeah.

[1116] Also, how did they sign them?

[1117] Was it best?

[1118] Did they change it every time?

[1119] Sincerely yours?

[1120] Yeah, that's a great question.

[1121] So many questions.

[1122] She would drive out, she was the one going, driving from Palm Desert to Mesa to come and visit him all the time.

[1123] and essentially what I inferred from the film Jody Aerea, Sturdy Little Secret, was because he didn't believe in pre -marital sex.

[1124] In driving.

[1125] I have to, yeah, no. He didn't believe in caring about her at all.

[1126] And putting in the most basic fuck.

[1127] Why am I trashing him?

[1128] Yeah, I know.

[1129] We're not.

[1130] We're not.

[1131] I'm not.

[1132] But I think what it was was, she would, yeah, let him.

[1133] him do anal.

[1134] Am I right, everybody?

[1135] Maybe that's the dirty little secret.

[1136] She wore a pussy every day.

[1137] Anil.

[1138] Because it's like, we can't do premarital sex.

[1139] Sorry, I can't do premarital sex.

[1140] But that's pee only.

[1141] Am I right?

[1142] It's in the Bible.

[1143] All right.

[1144] I don't know.

[1145] I'm Jewish.

[1146] We can do whatever the fuck we want.

[1147] Yeah.

[1148] That Jewish pipe, girl.

[1149] Okay, so essentially, they're hooking up, she thinks she's going to, like, you know, get him under her spell or whatever, but he wants to keep it chilled.

[1150] She's always kind of trying to push it a little bit more or whatever, and he's like, mm, that's okay.

[1151] So she comes up with a plan.

[1152] So in November of the year, this is two months after they meet.

[1153] Okay.

[1154] She decides to convert to Mormonism.

[1155] Okay.

[1156] Two months.

[1157] Two months.

[1158] No. I don't think that's how Mormonism works.

[1159] I don't think you can just be like, me. Yep.

[1160] That seems interesting.

[1161] Golden glasses, you say?

[1162] Is that the one with the salamander?

[1163] We talked about that.

[1164] 24 Davids and the snakes?

[1165] Maybe we shouldn't get into this.

[1166] Maybe we shouldn't make up things about a religion we don't know anything about.

[1167] No, let's do it.

[1168] Highly disrespectful manner.

[1169] Yeah, we might as well.

[1170] So, I mean, there must have been some good email.

[1171] because she converts to his religion.

[1172] I just can't get over that.

[1173] And he, like, there's a scene in the film, Jodi Aria's Dury Little Secret, where his friends are like, dude, she's converting, that's insane.

[1174] And he's like, I mean, isn't this what we do?

[1175] And we're out and we're on our missions and we're trying, we want to get people to join the church.

[1176] Like, especially, I mean, I don't know how it wasn't really like, but in this film, he just seems so casual and laid back all the time.

[1177] He's always kind of treating her like, oh, okay.

[1178] whatever.

[1179] So this didn't scare the living shit out of him, which it absolutely should have.

[1180] If there's ever been a red flag in the world, it's someone converting to your religion two months after you first took up.

[1181] Just a note, maybe I'm being judgmental.

[1182] You guys are being very quiet right now.

[1183] That's all right.

[1184] Okay.

[1185] So it takes then it's three more months after she converts to his religion that they start officially dating.

[1186] So he really waits it out and then he's finally like, fine, we can go out in public together and take pictures and stuff.

[1187] So that's what they do.

[1188] They actually go on a bunch of trips, and I think we do have a picture of them together.

[1189] They traveled a lot, and I think for their work, he traveled a lot, so she would go with him.

[1190] In the film, Jodi Arias, Dirty Little Secret.

[1191] Oh, we were all holding our breath, hoping you would say.

[1192] I'm hoping I'd say a different movie.

[1193] No, no, no. There's this horrifying scene where he's having a barbecued her house at his house, and she's basically trying to play the wife, so she's like, I redecorated.

[1194] Do you want to try some of my homemade Lennamade?

[1195] And you're just like, no, no, none of this.

[1196] And all the friends are like, so are you guys going to get married or something?

[1197] And he's like, no, no, she's just excited or whatever.

[1198] And in the film, she overhears.

[1199] them.

[1200] And then she's like, oh, I'm just your side piece.

[1201] And he's kind of like, oh, yeah.

[1202] I mean.

[1203] But he, so, so basically, she was super crazy, possessive.

[1204] She didn't like him talking to other women.

[1205] She didn't like that he had female friends.

[1206] And she checked, she, like, looked at his phone all the time.

[1207] She checked his email all the time.

[1208] But he thought it was cute.

[1209] He liked that she was obsessed with him.

[1210] Oh, sorry.

[1211] Sorry, the next picture we have.

[1212] Oh Ew, like he No Your job now, Phoenix is to go out to the thrift stores in this state Could you imagine if you found that fucking shirt at like St. Vincent's a Paul You're just like That's some fucked up shit.

[1213] I'm telling you this is the kind of thing we're like In sixth grade I would get an idea like this and I would be like, hey, My sister would just be like, sit down, I have to tell you something.

[1214] Never put a guy's name on your shirt.

[1215] I mean, all right.

[1216] So she basically confronts him and says, are you, you know, serious about me?

[1217] And he's like, I'm not, I'm 30.

[1218] I'm not, like, looking for marriage right now.

[1219] And essentially, like, and that's not really what we're doing or how I see it.

[1220] Right.

[1221] So after four months of dating, they break up.

[1222] And, of course, Jody does what.

[1223] woman would do when a guy breaks up with her, she moves to his town.

[1224] So she picks up from Palm Desert and goes ahead and moves to Mesa.

[1225] You know, 10 minutes away from his house.

[1226] And he starts hooking up with her again.

[1227] Always a great idea.

[1228] If you go through a breakup, go straight back to that person that you hate as quickly as you can and fuck them.

[1229] Behind your friend's back.

[1230] Make sure you don't tell them.

[1231] anyone yeah it's great um great idea so but again like when as i was you know watching the film jodi area stirred a little secret like i kept thinking this guy is 30 years old like it doesn't make sense it's someone that's totally like clocked on him and then just been like we are making this happen i was in relationships like that in high school we were fucking bananas high school yeah what you know just crazy people who do crazy things and it's cute where you're like we're going to be married and we're together forever.

[1232] Right.

[1233] But in high school?

[1234] Yeah.

[1235] Is that weird?

[1236] We met in rehab.

[1237] Is that weirder?

[1238] Our song was a Slayer song.

[1239] Is that weird?

[1240] There's so much more I could say.

[1241] Do it.

[1242] No. That's true love.

[1243] You heard of dance.

[1244] Oh, Slayer.

[1245] Honey.

[1246] Honey, do you hear?

[1247] Okay.

[1248] Okay.

[1249] So, December 2007, which is, you know, December of that year, he decides that this part of his life is not good for him, and he needs to start dating women that he wants to marry.

[1250] He needs to be more in line with his beliefs and stop fucking around.

[1251] So he asks out a girl that's at his church, that's a friend of his.

[1252] And what he doesn't know, they start dating, and he's super into it.

[1253] And Jody, who still lives, in Mesa followed them on their dates and took pictures of them from across the street and she was fine with it she was totally fine with it she's just checking on their date just checking hope it's going well is the date happening now I know it's happening and then pictures of course too she slashed his tires twice she slashed the dates tires once well then they're just stuck together longer you know what I mean she's not thinking it through She's acting from the heart Does that make me crazy?

[1254] That's a mistake Because then they can't leave That's right You get one of their cards Toad And they make them go to the impound lot She got really good at breaking into his house She would There was a sliding glass door She knew that he never locked And she would go in that way She also would climb in the doggy door Which is I feel like if you were home alone And you were just kind of like Can you imagine?

[1255] and then please no one is.

[1256] Why do you like him this much?

[1257] What happened?

[1258] Fuck.

[1259] You're not winning him back this way.

[1260] See yourself.

[1261] See.

[1262] Objective witness.

[1263] Close the door.

[1264] She's trying to push that plastic flap up.

[1265] It's all dirty.

[1266] Fucking dirty dog paws.

[1267] Honey.

[1268] Honey.

[1269] Honey.

[1270] Okay, so one time, this is my favorite thing of this whole fucking game, one time he found her hiding behind his Christmas tree.

[1271] This is no old...

[1272] Oh, the visual.

[1273] The visual.

[1274] Even as a Jew, I see how fucking creepy that is.

[1275] It would be like if someone put a menorah on their head.

[1276] I have to translate everything to you.

[1277] Oh, okay.

[1278] I get it.

[1279] Do you get it?

[1280] I get it now.

[1281] So disrespectful.

[1282] But also, the moment after, just think about that where you're hiding behind the guy you loves Christmas tree because he's not dating you anymore.

[1283] So you're like, oh, why doesn't you love me?

[1284] And then he's like, Jody?

[1285] And then you're like, hey.

[1286] What?

[1287] Where did you?

[1288] She had this wrapping paper back out through the dog door.

[1289] She only enters and exits his house through the dog door.

[1290] So, in an upsetting case, it's one of the most upsetting aspects.

[1291] One of them.

[1292] To me. His family's all sitting on the couch, drinking egg knock.

[1293] So that's the new girl in your life?

[1294] Okay.

[1295] In the film, Jodi Aria's Dirty Little Secret.

[1296] but he comes home one time and this seems like bullshit to me and I couldn't find it in any of like the timelines or real things it's very Hollywood too but I also, it's so creepy because it would make sense she was a photographer that was like a big interest of hers and there's a thing she did and she did take pictures of him on dates with other girls there's one scene he comes home with the girl he's on the date with and he looks and there's a wall covered in the collage of them on dates Ew.

[1297] Yeah.

[1298] But that's so creepy that I'm like, hmm, that seems Hollywood style.

[1299] They're being symbolic.

[1300] They're like, here's basically what it was like.

[1301] This is like Homeland style crazy.

[1302] There's red string attached to all the pictures for no reason.

[1303] Do you see how this date is connected to this date?

[1304] Okay.

[1305] So on April 20th, 2008, apparently.

[1306] he so they after after the after all of that insanity he was like you this is crazy and you this is too much you have to get it in my life well then uh it's like a couple months later he sends her a text saying i'm at a nightclub right now and it helped me to come to the conclusion that you're one of the prettiest girls on the planet oh i think he had the thing where maybe he wasn't the great like the most solid drunk in the world so he'd get like Like, he'd drink like three Dosecis, and he's like, I gotta text some shit.

[1307] You know what I mean?

[1308] Like, couldn't handle his shit, it seemed like.

[1309] Yeah.

[1310] Because he would kind of get back into it with her, because it was convenient, and I think she was manipulating him sexually, obviously.

[1311] Right.

[1312] Did we just start going the other way?

[1313] Okay, thank you.

[1314] I thought I was, the seizure had started.

[1315] Oh, we counterclockwise?

[1316] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1317] Four o 'clockwise.

[1318] This is just like a long, one of those long table games where they try to trick you into which marbles underneath them.

[1319] I already lost $200 at this show.

[1320] Okay, so basically all of this shit happens and then at the end, you know, the sexting goes on for a couple months, and then in the first week of June of 2008, Travis tells his friends that he found out that Jody broke into his Facebook, and that's when he said, get out of my life.

[1321] Facebook's the end game?

[1322] Facebook was the fucking final straw.

[1323] Not the house.

[1324] Not the dog door, not the fucking Christmas tree.

[1325] Facebook.

[1326] All right.

[1327] So, on June 2nd, 2008, Jodi Arias rented a car from Budget Rent a Car in Reading, California.

[1328] So she's from Wai Rieca.

[1329] Redding is up there.

[1330] All of way northern California.

[1331] It's a very scary place.

[1332] Be careful when you go there.

[1333] so she rents a car from there and then they also found later police found receipts where she had bought gas cans in, I believe it was in Reading also that she had in the car so she then drives she arrives at Travis's house on June 4th 2008 is it your birthday or do you just think words are sexy either way God bless you So she shows up, and she's like, I miss you, and, you know, blah, whatever.

[1334] And then he goes, the girl he had been dating, they had just broken up.

[1335] So he's like, why don't you come in so I can talk to you about my feelings?

[1336] And, of course, they start having sex.

[1337] Now, in the film, Jodi -Ros, Zara, Liza.

[1338] Damn it.

[1339] Foiled.

[1340] So they have sex, and then she starts taking pictures.

[1341] they start taking pictures of each other in bed because photography is her interest as she has shown everyone.

[1342] He gets up to go take a shower.

[1343] He's in the bathroom, and in the film, Jody or serial the cigarette, she, and I couldn't find any proof that this is actually how it happened, so this, again, could be the Hollywood version, but she basically sees on his phone the ex that he just broke up with is trying to talk to him, and she as him is like I'm with Jody now and then she's like basically like that dumb slut or whatever and then she goes crazy and it's like telling this girl the girl basically says a bunch of shit like but you said that she was just a side piece that never meant anything to you and da da da and all this shit so the next thing that they know what happens is she goes into the bathroom with the camera and she's taking pictures of him in the shower and she's like yeah you looks so sexy or whatever.

[1344] Basically she takes a picture of him that there was a picture and you can see it online and I'm sure you've already seen it especially if you're from here it's him looking straight into the camera like wet from the shower and then she told him to turn around and she was like taking pictures of the back and that's when she stabbed him.

[1345] Now the craziest fucking part is okay so so basically that she stops him and kills him and then three days later June 7th she returned the budget rental car in Reading, California.

[1346] She had put 2 ,834 miles on it.

[1347] That's a lot.

[1348] And what they figured out later was she bought those gas cans so that she could get gas and keep it so that she was never, no one could prove that she was ever in Arizona.

[1349] Yeah.

[1350] So, a week after that, she posts on Myspace a photo gallery that's like in loving memory of Travis.

[1351] Oh.

[1352] And the hometown, the chick was like, you know, she had dated, my, our brothers, blah, blah, blah.

[1353] And she took pictures with the brothers.

[1354] Took pictures and shit with the brothers.

[1355] It was obsessive about them.

[1356] The night before she had to go, she was hanging out at a bar back home in Wairika.

[1357] That's right.

[1358] Didn't know it was said that way.

[1359] And the brother was like, come home with me. And she was like, I can't.

[1360] I got to wake up early to go to get questioned by these investigators.

[1361] my ex died like fucking creepy shit and then starts telling all the details of it where this guy's trapped at a bar like I thought we were trying to play pool and she's like and then and then so she goes into the police station and she voluntarily gives her fingerprints and her DNA to the police she told the detective that she talked to that she and Travis had had a romantic relationship but they had broken up and she hadn't seen him since she moved out of Arizona in April.

[1362] So while they're waiting for the lab tests to come back, the people that were working on recovering the chip in the camera, they're like, and maybe this is because it's in a movie.

[1363] That doesn't make a ton of sense.

[1364] You get swab for DNA, and then they put that in the microwave, for five minutes, and then over here, this evidence comes in.

[1365] But basically it all came in at the same time, in real like it did.

[1366] The people that were working on the camera memory chip found a series of photos.

[1367] So it's all the nude photos of them in bed, and all of it is time stamped.

[1368] So she's like, I haven't seen him since April.

[1369] Well, this says June 4th.

[1370] And it's them in bed naked, and then it's him in the shower, and then there are these pictures that are like fuzzy that they had to work on.

[1371] And they have a picture of her hand cleaning up the blood with his body in the background.

[1372] So she accidentally took pictures of herself at the scene with the body, placing herself at the scene.

[1373] What the fuck?

[1374] You see the picture.

[1375] Stephen and I had to look for it today, and we couldn't find it, and we saw so many terrible things.

[1376] So many.

[1377] Poor Stephen.

[1378] Poor Stephen.

[1379] He's like, I'm going to start a cat podcast.

[1380] It's going to be so fun My life's going to be so happy It's just going to be happy and nice all the time Sure Karen and Georgia I'll record your podcast for you I'll pull a couple pictures off of Google Images for you We broke Stephen We broke him and half They get So they get the DNA The fingerprints Then they match with her fingerprints They match it to the palm print That was on the wall Her blood was in the bathroom the police said that they'd never seen more evidence against a person in any case.

[1381] That was a quote.

[1382] What the fact?

[1383] Yeah.

[1384] What is...

[1385] So when all of that comes in, they're like, okay, well, then we're going to indict her for first -degree murder, and they call up the police up in Wai Rika to go arrest her.

[1386] She's arrested at her grandmother's home.

[1387] And as she's being led, off to the police car.

[1388] She says, is there any way I could get my makeup on?

[1389] For real.

[1390] And the cop was like, no, puts her in the car.

[1391] And so we don't, I don't have this headshot either.

[1392] But her headshot, she doesn't have makeup on.

[1393] Like shot?

[1394] Oh.

[1395] Well, in a way, it is a headshot.

[1396] Yeah.

[1397] I mean.

[1398] She needed her makeup for her.

[1399] Hedge shot.

[1400] Oh, no. I've been ruined.

[1401] Ruined.

[1402] We broke Karen, too.

[1403] This fucking podcast.

[1404] It looked like she just straightened her hair and it's like a really pretty brunette and she's kind of like, it's like the other woman.

[1405] It's like the woman from her fucking headshot.

[1406] She looks very, it's a very natural look.

[1407] Very beechy.

[1408] And psychotic.

[1409] And insane.

[1410] So she gets extradited to Arizona.

[1411] She enters a plea of not guilty.

[1412] the Maricopa County Attorney's Office files a notice of intent to seek the death penalty for committing first -degree murder in an especially cruel heinous or depraved manner.

[1413] She gets out of jail, makes bail, and then does an interview with the TV show 48 hours.

[1414] No, I don't think she should have gotten out of jail.

[1415] Am I wrong in thinking of it?

[1416] Or she made bail.

[1417] I know.

[1418] That doesn't...

[1419] Okay.

[1420] It seems unfair.

[1421] Yeah.

[1422] did 48 hours bail her out straight onto the set she on that show claims that she did not kill Travis but that in fact it was a home invasion by a man and a woman who came in they shot Travis they murdered him she was just standing there and then they went to murder her the gun jammed so she pushed the gun away grabbed her purse she specified that and then left high -fived the wall with a bloody hand we got away and then she drove to Northern California got it straight through without alerting the cops and they were like well why wouldn't you call the police even when you got there and she was like I was afraid for my life so then later on she does an interview with Inside Edition and on that she is quoted is saying no jury is going to convict me because I'm innocent and you can mark my words on that one, no jury will convict me. Why would you ever fucking say that?

[1423] Oh, because you're a psychopath.

[1424] Okay.

[1425] So opening arguments of this trial began on January 2nd, 2012.

[1426] She changed her look and that was that picture with, yeah.

[1427] So that's her lawyer.

[1428] So she's basically doing lawyer cosplay essentially.

[1429] She's like, who in my life seems respectable.

[1430] My lawyer for my trial for murder.

[1431] It turns out I'm the lawyer.

[1432] So, no joke.

[1433] Soon after this, she asked to represent herself.

[1434] Oh, don't do that.

[1435] Yeah, no. She did it, of course.

[1436] True psychopath.

[1437] I mean, she did.

[1438] Oh, my God.

[1439] Yeah.

[1440] She's like, you know what?

[1441] You know what?

[1442] Sit back, bangs.

[1443] I got this one.

[1444] And the judge is like, okay.

[1445] And then as her own, acting on her own defense or whatever the first thing she does is try to admit into evidence letters from Travis admitting to her that he is a pedophile.

[1446] What?

[1447] Yes.

[1448] She's just trying to fucking destroy a dead man's reputation that she killed.

[1449] Oh my God?

[1450] The prosecution immediately took the letters, proved that they were forgeries and then so they were not admitted into evidence and then she said to the judge, I think I might be in over my head here.

[1451] Can I get my lawyer back?

[1452] For real.

[1453] So then she gets fangs back.

[1454] Then her story changes, and this is in court, her story changes that the reason that everything happened because she dropped Travis's camera that day.

[1455] She was there.

[1456] They did have sex.

[1457] They had the camera.

[1458] She dropped the camera.

[1459] He got so angry that he attacked her and she had it was self -defense she was fighting for her life stabbing him 27 times uh -huh so in the back right in the fucking back yeah he was attacking her with his back that judge must have been like uh -huh go on she so then she starts this she starts this story that this has been a relationship of domestic abuse and very extreme physical violence and that she was a she was basically a battered woman which fuck her for lots of reasons but especially for fucking that one like coming in that that that specific kind of lie you know what I mean because that's the thing that later on people hold on to we're like well you know this happens all the time where people claim and it's like no it doesn't it's what psychopaths do and there's not that many of them um so Sorry, you really got fired up there for a second.

[1460] That and the Christmas tree.

[1461] Of course, there is a slew of character witnesses that come in and are just like, he fucking was a church -going man, he was a good guy, he was self -made.

[1462] He grew up, both his parents were meth addicts.

[1463] He grew up with two fucking not -so, awful parents, and when he was 10, his grandma came and took them and basically, I guess, got custody.

[1464] And that's when he started going to hurt.

[1465] She was the one that was Mormon.

[1466] He started going to church with her.

[1467] And the second he started living with his grandmother, he bloomed and everything's great.

[1468] So, like, this is truly a self -made man at age 30.

[1469] And that's basically everyone came in and was just like, yeah, no, we're not doing this at all.

[1470] So then, long story short, on May 8th, 2012, of Jodierrez, and there's so much more shit, and I'm sure that there's a million people sitting in this audience for now going, why aren't you talking about the thing?

[1471] But there's like 70 million things.

[1472] I didn't know.

[1473] I didn't understand why everyone was watching this one.

[1474] And I'm like, oh, I'm going to go back and watch it all.

[1475] I thought it was all just like, girl kills guy and like, oh, she's hot, so whatever.

[1476] It's like, it's the twist and, like, Nancy Grace was right.

[1477] The twists and turns were fucking nuts.

[1478] Can we, can really quick, Nancy, she really, if you take a look at the stages I think the one day that I decided not to get involved in the Jodiarius case was because I was watching Nancy Grace talk about Jody Arias and I was like, I might be on her side.

[1479] You're a lunatic.

[1480] Look at how she's doing like a 90s Courtney Love in the top right corner.

[1481] She went through a Barrett phase that I don't know.

[1482] I did too when I was like 18 and a right girl.

[1483] Yeah, I did too.

[1484] I did too.

[1485] It's like when your bangs are growing out.

[1486] You know what?

[1487] You know what it is?

[1488] She had a hair person that was like, no, you know what?

[1489] It looks really good.

[1490] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1491] And she was like, does it?

[1492] I think, is it too young for me?

[1493] No, Nancy.

[1494] Nancy?

[1495] She was so mad.

[1496] But then she was happy because on May 8th, 2012, Jody Arias was found guilty of first -degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without parole.

[1497] Associated Press said the case was a circus and a runaway train and that it grew into a worldwide sensation as thousands followed the trial via a live unedited web feed, which I didn't know.

[1498] You could watch that thing in real time, which sounds equally insanely exciting and then like the most boring thing ever.

[1499] Because in between time and court cases is like, oh my God.

[1500] We'd like to file for motion, blah, blably, blah, blah, blah.

[1501] point two.

[1502] Cut the motions.

[1503] We don't need every motion.

[1504] For fans, the Arias trial became a live daytime soap opera.

[1505] With its mix of jealousy, religion, murder, and sex, the Jodi Arias case shows what happens when the justice system becomes entertainment.

[1506] Mm -hmm.

[1507] Nancy Grace.

[1508] And then I accidentally left on a picture of a beautiful young detective named Nathaniel Mendez.

[1509] That's just on my last...

[1510] I wasn't taking him off because I was going to show him to my sister.

[1511] Like, did you ever see a guy this hot?

[1512] Anna got printed in color, which is...

[1513] Let me see.

[1514] It's going right into the memory book.

[1515] He was there and he was like, this crazy bitch bought gas cans in Northern California.

[1516] It's a strong chin he's got there.

[1517] No, he is a...

[1518] He's a detective and he's going to detect some shit, Jody.

[1519] You can't get...

[1520] Well, Karen, guess who we have here tonight?

[1521] He's going to do a magic mic dance for you.

[1522] He retired from detectiving, and now he's a sex dancer.

[1523] And I'm sorry, I probably left out some good stuff, but that's the case of Joe Diarius, everybody.

[1524] It's a good one, Maya.

[1525] Well, you know what it means when the stage starts turning the other way.

[1526] That means we have time for a hometown murder.

[1527] Now, let me just tell you a couple important and crucial rules.

[1528] We went over a couple of them before.

[1529] Be drunk enough so that you can follow your own story and have a good time with it.

[1530] But not so much that you're just going to yell or do with shit like that.

[1531] We want it to be local.

[1532] Like Arizona, you know what I mean?

[1533] Yeah, yeah.

[1534] Like around here.

[1535] And then also, when you speak, when you tell the story, in your mind it's going to be a paragraph half long and we're going to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.

[1536] And we're just going to, we're going to pull right through that in a timely manner.

[1537] We have an added layer of fucking weirdness because we're spinning.

[1538] Yeah.

[1539] So if you've ever been in musical theater, that'd be a great, this would be a great time for you.

[1540] We would love, if you're a mezzo -soprano, we would love, we would love to hear from you.

[1541] And also, the onus is on Georgia because she's really good at picking people.

[1542] I'm going to go right for you.

[1543] Oh.

[1544] She just like, they pointed at her.

[1545] Okay, so here's...

[1546] It's over.

[1547] Oh, there's steps here.

[1548] Holy shit.

[1549] Hey, it's Vince.

[1550] Cynthia.

[1551] We also forgot.

[1552] Our new rule, too, is that everyone's mad that they didn't get picked, so just don't worry about it.

[1553] I'm very sorry.

[1554] Oh, yeah.

[1555] The pressure is on because these are, this is now an audience of people who don't want to hear this story.

[1556] That's, it's a lot.

[1557] I'm very sorry, everybody.

[1558] I'll keep a short sweet.

[1559] Times.

[1560] Your friend, okay, we're spinning.

[1561] That's my friend.

[1562] Sorry.

[1563] So I do have a homes time story.

[1564] Actually, it's a second hand story.

[1565] because I remember a really small town where I'm related to everybody.

[1566] So if my mom found out I was talking about like a cousin, I'd have to explain what a podcast is.

[1567] And like you said, she's 65.

[1568] It wouldn't work.

[1569] It's too much.

[1570] So I did hear this story from a co -worker when I was working at Macy's.

[1571] It's from...

[1572] Yeah, it's from Macy's.

[1573] And it's about 10 years old, but it definitely always kind of stuck with me. And so it's kind of my favorite murder.

[1574] It was the first kind of introduction into this sort of obsession with true crime.

[1575] But it's about a small town near the port of...

[1576] Gallus.

[1577] So if you're not familiar with it, we have a lot of border towns, of course, near Arizona.

[1578] And due to these border towns, we have these group of people who, they're militias, who basically patrol them.

[1579] So think of a lot of untrained patriots with huge semi -automatic weapons, while they're down in the dark trying to keep people from crossing the border.

[1580] So we have all these militias.

[1581] They've not been hired by anyone to do this?

[1582] No, no. They're private citizens who have taken upon themselves to keep, you know, women and children out.

[1583] So they just, like, they go around the borders and stuff.

[1584] So anyway, there was a particular woman, her name was Shawna Ford.

[1585] And she was basically a great person.

[1586] She was, like, a concert promoter.

[1587] She ran for Senate or something like that.

[1588] She was a beautician.

[1589] She also had extensive criminal background, fraud, burglary assault, which made total sense that she was a part of this militia to keep bad people.

[1590] Oh, okay.

[1591] Right.

[1592] So, wait, during the day she runs City Hall.

[1593] Yes.

[1594] She ran for office, but she never was elected, but she was a go -getter.

[1595] Yeah.

[1596] So anyway, she was a part of this militia, and the militia decided she was too crazy for them.

[1597] Whoa.

[1598] Yeah, and so they kicked her out.

[1599] Jesus.

[1600] But she took some friends with her and decided she's going to start her own militia.

[1601] Uh -huh.

[1602] So she recruited these two gentlemen.

[1603] One was named Jason Boyd.

[1604] The other one was named Albert Galaxola.

[1605] And Jason Bush was a white supremacist who, again, assaults, drugs, battery, just a stand -up guy.

[1606] Definitely a guy.

[1607] Yeah, definitely guy.

[1608] And then Albert, I believe, had a lot of drug problems and drug history, and he was a drug informant.

[1609] So they knew the only way that they were going to get money to fund this militia was to go and rob immigrants.

[1610] So they were going to go to immigrants' houses and look for drugs because they were.

[1611] they knew that all immigrants just, you know, have drugs, I guess, like, around their house?

[1612] Just piles of cocaine on every coffee table.

[1613] I guess so.

[1614] They heard a Kickstarter?

[1615] I don't, I think it was kind of before the whole Go -Fund meeting.

[1616] It was before that.

[1617] And they also knew that if they had robbed an immigrant, that they were less likely to report the crime, which is crazy because immigrants are more likely to be victims of crimes than actually commit them.

[1618] But anyway, so they go into this, thank you.

[1619] I think someone's going to run for Senate.

[1620] Hashtag murderino's a color.

[1621] What's up?

[1622] So they, the three of them get together and they break into the home of Gina Gonzalez and Raoul Flores.

[1623] It's like 5 a .m. They wake up the family and they hustle them all into the living room and they start searching for drugs.

[1624] Well, the problem is they don't find any drugs because there's no drugs there.

[1625] What they do find is some jewelry and some money.

[1626] Well, now they have the family in the living room.

[1627] And what they were going to do is basically just leave.

[1628] The problem was these were not immigrants.

[1629] These were U .S. citizens.

[1630] These were Americans just like you and I who just happened to be Hispanic.

[1631] So at this point, they have nothing to lose.

[1632] So they proceed to shoot Gina and then shoot Raul.

[1633] And I apologize, trigger warning.

[1634] When their nine -year -old daughter, Bresenia, starts to cry, they proceed to shoot her.

[1635] So as the three of them leave the home, Gina actually was still alive, but she had been playing dead because she knew that she had to get to 911.

[1636] So as soon as they leave, she goes to her bedroom, she grabs her husband's gun, and she calls 911.

[1637] I did not listen to the 911, but I did read the transcript, and she's essentially just telling them, hey, these people broke into my home, they shot my daughter, they shot my husband, and either they heard her or they forgot something, they come back into the home.

[1638] well like a freaking badass chinguana she shoots at them and she actually strikes jason bush so she shoots him and then he run and then they run out well she's able to describe these people very clearly to the police and they're all arrested well during the arrest and trial Albert who was there but didn't actually do any of the murders he gets life in prison now when jason in jail, they actually then tie him to another murder of another Hispanic man in New Mexico and he gets, and so he gets convicted of that murder, and then he also gets the death penalty for the death of Resinia and Raul.

[1639] Yes.

[1640] So then Shauna at first says, oh, I wasn't there because, you know, she was out, I don't know, beauty salon, whatever, so she wasn't there.

[1641] But Gina and the other accomplices are like, no, you were there.

[1642] So then finally she says, okay well I was there but I didn't do any of the shooting I was just there but they the prosecution's like no you were the mastermind you're the reason that they're there you can't incite violence you can't incite hate and then wash your hands when somebody does something that you basically told them to do so thankfully a two sundry agreed with that sent her to death and she's one of three women on death row in Arizona oh my I have to say I'm a little bit mad at you right now because you just did that better than any episode we've ever done.

[1643] That was me. I've chills.

[1644] You're crying.

[1645] I cried.

[1646] I cried.

[1647] I didn't.

[1648] I'm broken.

[1649] You'll get there.

[1650] You'll get there someday.

[1651] I cried when I said upper legs, but not when they're just a horrible story.

[1652] My therapist comes up.

[1653] Hologram.

[1654] Oh, my God, you guys.

[1655] Thank you so fucking much.

[1656] This is...

[1657] Our therapists.

[1658] Um, we unwind them, the stage stops.

[1659] I was just going to say, I feel like, uh, you know, when you're like on a cruise or whatever, and then you adjust to something and like, I'm going to, now I'm going to have to go and get, well, I'm like, see legs or whatever.

[1660] Like, whoa, I can only be on a turning thing.

[1661] Um, wow, this is so amazing.

[1662] Thank you guys for being such an incredible audience.

[1663] We're sorry it took us so long to come here, you guys.

[1664] Don't be mad.

[1665] It's really great way through a show.

[1666] I think to myself, oh, we're putting this one up.

[1667] This is fucking good.

[1668] For real.

[1669] This is amazing.

[1670] We say this all the time, but we have to say it because we really mean it.

[1671] We won the lottery.

[1672] The fact that this is what our job is now is fucking nuts, and it's because of you guys.

[1673] Thank you so much.

[1674] Thank you, and please.

[1675] Please.

[1676] Please stay sexy.

[1677] And don't get.