#1767 - James Lindsay

[0] Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] Hello, Joe.

[4] Good to see.

[5] You heterodox individual, you?

[6] I am very heterodox.

[7] I like to use that word because I never use that word.

[8] Well, you used it properly.

[9] I just did.

[10] I think this is the first time I've ever used it on the podcast.

[11] Yeah, definitely not orthodox.

[12] So tell me what you were just telling me about a conference.

[13] We were having a conversation where I was saying, I'm wondering.

[14] how many undercover feds have either gotten on the podcast or tried to get on the podcast?

[15] Yeah, it's like I've had a couple places.

[16] One, I had this guy come up to me, and we're like just in the crowd, right?

[17] It wasn't like I just got off stage or anything like that.

[18] And he comes up to me and he's like, you know, if we had to narrow it down to like, you know, the top 10, 12 individuals pulling all this crazy stuff that's going on the world, could you name who they are?

[19] Like, who are they?

[20] And the question is, you know, what are we going to do about them?

[21] You know, we're going to have to take them out, you know, we're going to have to go off.

[22] When do we get to go off?

[23] It was like the statement, when do we get to go off on them?

[24] Like, that violence is...

[25] Are we going to have to take them out?

[26] You're going to have to take them out.

[27] Like, I'm looking at this guy thinking you're not taking anybody out, but...

[28] But what are you doing?

[29] Like, what is this?

[30] Yeah.

[31] Yeah, like, why are you asking me this question?

[32] I had another guy.

[33] I did a talk, and this was totally awesome event.

[34] Like, there was a mechanical bull in the venue.

[35] Like, it was nuts.

[36] And I'm doing this, like, professional talk and everything.

[37] He was nuts.

[38] And this guy's drunk afterwards.

[39] I don't know.

[40] Probably he's just drunk.

[41] Maybe he's not.

[42] And he's like, I wanted to...

[43] ask you one question man and I was like what is it after I talked and he was like when do we get to start shooting them and I was like holy shit dude no you know we don't like that's the trap if anything like you don't do you think that guy was just crazy or do you think that guy was a fed and how do you know the difference that's the question I don't know I actually suspect that guy was just drunk and shooting off at the mouth and frustrated but I don't know and then the weirdo guy that was like if we could narrow it down to who are the because that guy wouldn't leave me alone The guy told you about first, like, he wouldn't leave me alone.

[44] It's like, he just kept asking questions and, like, trying to talk to me. And I was like, huh.

[45] That Epps guy that everyone has decided was an agent provocateur that was at the January 6th thing, they still haven't found that guy.

[46] Or, excuse me, they still haven't charged that guy.

[47] A very suspicious circumstances around that.

[48] The weirdest, right?

[49] Right.

[50] Like, let's just, you know, we'll have them on the list of people we're interested in.

[51] And then people are going to say, you know, we were all screaming, he's a Fed, he's a Fed. and then there's all this video of him doing weird stuff and people saying fed, fed, fed, fed. And then all of a sudden they're like, off the list.

[52] He's not on the wanted list anymore.

[53] Yeah, not wanted, not being charged.

[54] It's so odd.

[55] While other people are rotting in jail.

[56] Yeah.

[57] Well, then when Ted Cruz grills the FBI lady and she's like, I can't answer that, I can't answer that.

[58] The answer to those questions is very simple.

[59] No, no, no. And she's like, I can't answer that question.

[60] Yeah.

[61] Did the FBI or any agents incite violence?

[62] I can't answer that.

[63] What?

[64] I mean, I understand the Fifth Amendment.

[65] Nobody can, you know, be compelled to incriminate themselves.

[66] But, man. Does the Fifth Amendment even apply when you're a representative of an organization?

[67] Because it's a different scenario.

[68] She's a representative of the FBI.

[69] It's not like she's incriminating herself.

[70] Right.

[71] Yeah.

[72] I don't, I don't even know in that case, but that looked bad.

[73] look strange it's like what are you doing like all those questions did they incite violence like you should never be inciting violence you're the fbi you're the federal bureau of investigation you shouldn't be inciting violence ever that should be we didn't never do that yeah that's something you know no that's the opposite of what we do right that's literally the opposite of what we exist to do we're completely not interested in that yeah but no that's not the answers no i'm sorry i can't answer that question i can't answer that question either I'm just going to give that answer to all of your hard questions I can't answer that I have been trying really hard not to go down a Klaus Schwab rabbit hole Oh buddy we're probably gonna do that Oh my god Someone sent me a video of Klaus Schwab Introducing Jijing Ping the other day Have you seen that?

[74] Jamie pull that up because Klaus Schwab Now I do not know I know very little about Klaus Schwab I read his book But he seems like a bad guy in a Batman movie He came straight out of central casting or something.

[75] It's like, it's not even James Bond, though.

[76] It's like a spoof.

[77] It's so over the top.

[78] He's wearing like a spacesuit when he's not wearing like his, you know, business suit or whatever.

[79] It's like, what is this guy?

[80] He wears a spacesuit?

[81] Have you not seen the spacesuit?

[82] No. Oh, man. It's like this leather thing with like a triangle.

[83] Oh, it's really?

[84] Yeah, it's freaky.

[85] Now, what does he do?

[86] He is the, I guess, chairman, CEO of this thing called the World Economic Forum, which is like a billionaires' club.

[87] where fancy pants, people like, you know, titans of industry, government officials, NGO people, all the big philanthropists can show up and, like, rub elbows at Davos and chill out.

[88] And basically, it's like, it's like a big country club for, like, the biggest players in government.

[89] And it's just a space suit.

[90] What the fuck?

[91] What is that?

[92] He's so weird.

[93] He wears that all the time?

[94] Well, I mean, he's got a suit and tie at other time.

[95] I don't know how often he wears.

[96] I don't know the guy, but look at that.

[97] What is that?

[98] Like, I wouldn't even wear that on Halloween.

[99] What does the caption say there?

[100] There's just someone's tweet.

[101] Oh.

[102] See if you could find the video of him introducing Xi Jinping, because he gives this bizarrely glowing introduction to the leader of the Chinese Communist Party.

[103] Listen to this.

[104] Look at it, it's a bond villain.

[105] Human destiny.

[106] Give it to me from the beginning.

[107] I want to hear the whole thing.

[108] That's what I did, it's where it started.

[109] Human destiny.

[110] Oh, okay.

[111] In the last five years, the world has become more interconnected than ever.

[112] But in many ways, it's becoming even more fragmented and polarized.

[113] Polarized.

[114] China has made significant economic and social achievements under your leadership.

[115] In the first three quarters of 2021, China's economy grew by all.

[116] over nine percent.

[117] You have achieved a historic goal to become a moderately prosperous society in all respects.

[118] Mr. President, I strongly echo your remarks in 2017 that mankind has made progress by surmounting difficulties, and when encountering difficulties, we should join hands.

[119] and rise to the challenge.

[120] I believe this is the best time for leaders to come together and work jointly for the world to become more inclusive, more sustainable and more prosperous.

[121] We now welcome His Excellency Xi Jinping, President of the People's Republic of China.

[122] Do you know.

[123] Professor Klaus Schwab, ladies and gentlemen, friends, greet.

[124] Is that not?

[125] So weird.

[126] And you know who spoke like right after that, right?

[127] Who?

[128] Fauci.

[129] No. Really?

[130] Yeah.

[131] Whoa.

[132] And if you listen, actually, I don't think we should try to deal with the listening to all of what she says.

[133] But he's like, he's like, you know, he goes into this whole thing.

[134] It's like a paraphrase of Lenin.

[135] He's all like, you know.

[136] Well, there's an old Chinese saying that everything contains its contradictions.

[137] It's actually an old Marxist saying, is that everything contains its contradictions.

[138] The Taoists don't, I mean, they have that with the In Yang thing, but they don't really have everything contains its own contradiction.

[139] They say things contain their opposites, which is different.

[140] And so Marx was like everything contains its own contradiction, which, you know, capitalism makes a lot of wealth, but then it makes a lot of poor people, so it's got its own contradiction.

[141] And he says, we got to lean into the, she said, you know, to paraphrasing, we got to lean into the, contradictions.

[142] What Lenin said when people were starving, like he's like literally starving people and killing people, he's like, accelerate the contradictions.

[143] Because if you make them see how terrible life is by showing them the contradictions, oh, we're supposed to have a great society and look, you're suffering, you're starving, then they'll want to have a revolution.

[144] And so it's like that's the thing that Schwab there just introduced was his speech about that.

[145] He also says we can't think of ourselves anymore as like 190 little boats like the different countries of the world to solve problems like climate change or I guess COVID like that went real well and we got to think of ourselves as one big boat like one world government or something and then she is the guy that's the model for this like and then we see you know mr. spacesuit there saying I strongly echo your comments you know prosperous yeah the guy's weird I read his book he's got a book called COVID -19 the Great Reset he's got a few books actually I've read some of some of was other ones, but I read all of that one.

[146] And it's just corporate gobbly gook.

[147] But what he says is that COVID -19 is the ideal window of opportunity, a very narrow window of opportunity to reset the whole world's economy.

[148] And he wants to create this whole new world economy, he calls stakeholder capitalism through what he calls a public -private partnership where he gets these government guys to sign up with his corporate dudes at Davos and make a partnership.

[149] The UN is actually usually the public thing.

[150] And then he's the corporate guy bringing them together in a world economic form to make public -private partnership.

[151] But if we go back to Mussolini, you know, what was his definition of fascism?

[152] It's corporatism.

[153] It has a fusion of the state and corporation.

[154] And you're like, huh, what's going on here?

[155] Well, this great reset thing is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy theory conversation.

[156] Yeah.

[157] That we're experiencing the great reset and that they crash the economy on purpose.

[158] You know, I don't think that's true in terms of.

[159] of like what they did to Los Angeles, I think it's incompetence, and I think there's a bunch of people that wanted to do something that showed that they were trying to enact measures to protect people.

[160] And in doing that, they crippled a lot of these restaurants and bars and small businesses, and they did it because it didn't affect them at all financially.

[161] Like, if it had any effect on them financially, like if...

[162] But it did in a lot of cases.

[163] Like, look at how...

[164] The billionaires are all way...

[165] richer now.

[166] Right, but that's what I'm saying.

[167] I'm seeing the politicians.

[168] Oh, okay.

[169] If it affected the politicians financially, then they would have never enacted those measures.

[170] Like if the politicians got paid based on how well the economy did in their city.

[171] Right.

[172] Say if you're a mayor and if your economy crashes, you lose all your money.

[173] You would never see lockdowns.

[174] You would never see, like, I have a friend she lives in Mexico and she was telling me that in Mexico nothing's shutting down because the cartels won't allow it.

[175] Right, right.

[176] Because the cartels make a percent.

[177] of the money that these businesses get so they get paid so if the businesses go under the cartels don't make any money right Jamie you have coo of it do you got the coo -to breathe it's everything no it's everything can't be coughing can't be coughing yeah it's dangerous times you just be out now coughing that's almost it's attempted murder but she was telling me that when when they are in Mexico that nothing shut down everything's wide open all the restaurants all the bars nothing you ever shut down and the reason why she said we're free is because the cartel.

[178] She was like LOL and when she said this.

[179] Right.

[180] Well, I mean, what that tells you then is that, you know, there's either absolute disconnect with the politicians or that they're, you know, being taken care of some other way.

[181] And that's the conspiratorial side, that there's money coming in some other way.

[182] So their paycheck is not dependent upon the economy locally, but it's dependent on some other factor.

[183] Well, in local government, it's dependent upon taxes.

[184] Like, My friend, his brother, works for the whatever COVID response thing in California.

[185] And there was a conversation when they were shutting down outdoor dining at one point in time.

[186] And he protested and he said, there is no evidence that there's any spread that's because of outdoor dining or any outdoor activities.

[187] And she said, it's about optics.

[188] Oh, yeah.

[189] Well.

[190] So this was a conversation he had with a real public official who's in charge of making these decisions.

[191] So this is like this idea that it's all like motivated by some conspiracy to reset the economy.

[192] I don't think that's the case.

[193] I think what's going on is that is a lot of incompetence and a lot of really dumb people, a lot of foolish people that are running some aspects of government.

[194] Then you have people that are taking advantage of that.

[195] Sure.

[196] And the billionaires are most certainly getting richer.

[197] And just by definition, if you close mom and pop stores, where are people going to buy their stuff?

[198] Well, they're going to have to go to Target.

[199] They're going to have to go to the big places.

[200] And then if you're, you make you can loot it.

[201] You can loot targets and you can shoplift at Walgreens or whatever.

[202] Where are they going to go online, Amazon?

[203] And, you know, you can kind of see how all of these, you know, really crooked business practices can kind of multiply in this kind of an environment.

[204] So do you think that like places like San Francisco and areas of California where they've enacted these really fucking stupid laws where you can steal up to $900 and something dollars worth of stuff and they don't arrest you at all?

[205] So people just grab stuff, they throw it in a bag, and they walk right out the door, and no one does anything to stop it.

[206] Do you think that those laws are enacted knowing that they're going to kill these businesses, knowing that this is going to prop up online businesses like Amazon and larger places that have the ability to do that?

[207] Well, you know, I'm in my 40s, which means that I never underestimate any longer the depths of human stupidity.

[208] So it is possible that they're just stupid and don't realize the extraordinarily obvious thing that literally everybody yells at them.

[209] But, no, I actually, I'm inclined to believe that they know to some degree what they're doing.

[210] And I wouldn't even be surprised to find out that there's some kind of weird backroom deals.

[211] And that's what this new economy is supposed to be.

[212] It's like, we go back to Schwab.

[213] His thing is he calls it stakeholder capitalism.

[214] You don't care about the shareholder anymore because a profit is too dangerous of a motive.

[215] You care about these people that are called stakeholders.

[216] You're going to tell you, you know, they're experts in environmental policy.

[217] They're experts in health policy.

[218] They're experts in trusty experts in social policy.

[219] You know how I feel about that.

[220] These critical theories or whatever.

[221] They're experts in best practices and governance.

[222] And they've created these whole investment metrics called ESG metrics, environmental social governance metrics.

[223] And they score your company based on how high up and down you are.

[224] But it's only really big companies that get to play in that.

[225] game.

[226] And so the people who are the experts get to be the stakeholders who are going to speak on behalf of everybody else and say, well, that's bad environmental policy.

[227] So your company is going to get a bad score.

[228] So maybe we won't carry you in our, you know, mutual fund or whatever else.

[229] We're not going to trade your stock.

[230] We're not going to manage your assets, whether it's BlackRock or Vanguard or any of these huge entities or the World Economic Forum.

[231] And we're not going to give you the favors anymore.

[232] And so there's this perverse scoring system that's worked its way in.

[233] And the goal is to shift out of that.

[234] Now, what are the politicians doing?

[235] You know, well, I mean, we see obviously there's corruption somewhere.

[236] We got insider trading happening in Washington.

[237] That's, like, coming out all over the place.

[238] No, no, no, no, that's fine.

[239] That should be allowed, the participating in the economy.

[240] Yeah.

[241] Yeah.

[242] It's like, we should start letting, like, we should start letting the MMA guys, like the UFC guys bet on their own fights.

[243] Like, why not, you know?

[244] You know, to have a pool was something that you could bet on at casinos.

[245] They did it once.

[246] And when they did it, the guy who was the lowest seed won the tournament.

[247] And it was embarrassing.

[248] Like, guys were like missing balls, dead in the hole.

[249] They were doing it on purpose because they bet against themselves.

[250] Yeah.

[251] And they bet on this one guy.

[252] Right.

[253] And they all chopped up the money.

[254] How about that.

[255] How crazy.

[256] How wild that they might game a bad incentive structure.

[257] Who's 15 to 1?

[258] Interesting.

[259] Hmm.

[260] Mm -hmm.

[261] What do you think would happen if you won?

[262] Yeah, ka -ching.

[263] So they stopped because pool players are like kind of notoriously shady folks.

[264] A little bit.

[265] Yeah, well.

[266] So they stopped doing that.

[267] But yeah, that would definitely happen if fighters were allowed to bet on themselves.

[268] But fighters do bet on themselves because there's more money for them if they win in the long term of their career.

[269] Correct, correct.

[270] But there's not a whole lot of incentive.

[271] Like you don't have some bookie over here who's going to make it up to you if you, you know, get your face messed up kind of on purpose.

[272] purpose.

[273] People worried about that, though.

[274] There's, there is concern.

[275] Like, I'm sure the FBI has investigated boxing matches and stuff along those lines.

[276] I guarantee they have.

[277] Well, you know, they investigate a lot of things.

[278] The Department of Justice is investigating moms and dads, you know, for sure, up to school boards.

[279] And they're also investigating maybe some real crime, but not the guy that came here to Texas from Britain who shouldn't have been able to even get in.

[280] What's that?

[281] That guy that just shot, that took the hostages at the synagogue.

[282] right yeah um i forgot about that because there's so many of these god damn things happening yeah this is really recent a million things it was like last week yeah yeah just like the other day so where did he come from he was he's british but he's got a name that would indicate that he's Islamic um but he's got a british accent as well and he came in from the u .k and he was like eyeballs on him from MI5 or something like this you know they knew he was a problem and he comes over to the to the U .S. somehow it manages to get a firearm next thing you know he's at a synagogue taking hostages doing whatever they do they deal with the situation and the FBI and the president come out and they're like well we don't know the motive the guy screaming his motive while he's doing it and you know we have no idea why this happened and you know we have to do an investigate it's just the the weirdest farcical thing and then meanwhile you know the big joke that was going on the internet with it was well they didn't have time to catch this guy coming into the country because they were too busy, you know, investigating parents at school board meetings who were showing up because of that, you know what, that letter, right?

[283] Which letter?

[284] So somewhere in the, it's now been shown, like actual journalists, Osir Namani, for example, I think it was leading on this dug up proof that the somebody in the Biden administration, maybe at the Department of Education, maybe it was Cardona himself, gets this letter, this memo, and it goes to the National School Board Association, NSBA.

[285] they actually just send it back to the Biden administration and say parents are showing up at school boards, there's all this violence in danger, but it came from inside the house, sent it to the school board association, which most of its members didn't even know that this was happening, and a lot of them have disavowed it.

[286] And then they send it back to the DOJ, and then Merrick Garland comes out and says that they're going to start watching parents at school board meetings like their domestic terrorists, and they have.

[287] Now, I did hear about that, but this, is it because they're worried that there's going to come a time where a parent crosses a line and shows up armed and does something insane?

[288] I mean, that's the perpetual, you know, justification for that kind of thing.

[289] But at the same time, it's, you know, they literally sent out a memo to treat parents showing up at school board meetings as though they are domestic.

[290] Not all parents.

[291] I mean, they can't think, I mean, obviously, they want some parents to show up at school board meetings because they want to be active in...

[292] I'm not sure that's the case anymore.

[293] You don't think they want any parents showing up at school board meetings?

[294] You think they think that it's all negative and that...

[295] I mean, they is too big to say, you know, everybody everywhere, but you actually saw that attitude, you know, in the governor's race in Virginia last year when, you know, Yonkin beat McAuliffe.

[296] and did he beat McColliffe or I forget how it works out Terry McAuliffe yeah and so because Northam is the previous governor because Virginia has this weird rule where you can't be governor twice in a row oh really yeah so they have to have two people each time and so anyway McAuliffe came out and he said that they don't want that parents shouldn't have a role in shaping curriculum and that they don't want that going on amid these huge scandals you know they have this this exactly what people said would happen a number of years ago, this kid claiming to be, it's clearly disturbed, claiming to be non -binary, wearing a skirt, goes in and rapes a ninth grade girl in the bathroom.

[297] Exactly what people said.

[298] You remember back in like 2015, people like, if you do the trans bathroom thing that way, we're going to see sexual assaults.

[299] Well, that's exactly what happened.

[300] And then the school's, like the school district covers it up.

[301] They tried to tell the parents to keep their mouth shut about it.

[302] Yeah.

[303] And they, they, they, all these activists showed up when the dad of the girl, comes to this meeting or whatever and they provoke him and he like flipped out.

[304] I don't remember if he hit somebody or if he just started screaming out of me, he might have hit somebody.

[305] And then he becomes like, you know, the worst thing ever.

[306] And then I mean, there's a lot of stuff right now going on where they don't actually want parents involved.

[307] They want to control the kids.

[308] They think that the school is the professionals, the experts, and that they know the best policies for masks.

[309] They know the best policies for curriculum.

[310] That's where they're getting all this social emotional learning and critical race theory and the queer theory, gender theory stuff rammed into the schools.

[311] And they're like, no, you know, parents, if you don't like this, you're not the experts, you don't understand.

[312] And you're seeing school boards where, you know, they're not taking public comments or they're limiting those rather significantly now because I don't think they do want parents speaking up.

[313] I don't think they want parents involved at this point.

[314] The thing about it is if you look at it reasonably, like if there was any other time in history, you know, in the history of like my life, and you thought of parents coming in to tell teachers how the kids should be taught, you're like, well, what do the parents know?

[315] But then when you see some of the ridiculous shit that kids are getting taught in school today, and then if you follow like libs of TikTok, and you see some of these crazy groomer teachers, Groomer teachers, yeah.

[316] It is so bizarre.

[317] It's so bizarre to see these people making these videos because they're doing it like out in the open.

[318] They're like, we are going to teach your kids the right things.

[319] We are going to teach your kids to respect us.

[320] We are going to teach your kids to, you know, like whatever theories that they want.

[321] And they're doing it in this weird, arrogant assertion that they're going to indoctrinate these children into their ideology.

[322] And they're literally like mocking or taunting the parents that we're going to do this to your kids.

[323] Yeah.

[324] And it's, I don't understand the motivation, I don't understand why they would make those videos.

[325] I don't understand why anybody would hire those people to be teachers, and why they wouldn't fire them immediately upon seeing those videos.

[326] I know they did fire that one teacher.

[327] She was, I think she was a professor who was talking about people who are attracted to underage people that we shouldn't call them pedophiles.

[328] Yeah, that was a professor.

[329] That's right.

[330] Right.

[331] Yeah.

[332] forgotten about that.

[333] She said we shouldn't call them pedophiles.

[334] Yeah.

[335] We should call them minor attracted.

[336] Miner attracted persons.

[337] Yeah.

[338] Which the MAP, but the P and MAP should just stand for pedophile because that's what minor attracted means.

[339] Well, this idea that, like, you can be a pedophile but not act on it, which I guess is true.

[340] I guess for some reason you could be attracted to children and not act on it.

[341] The question is like, what has happened?

[342] How does that happen like what is it about a human that would have that sick inclination to want to have a sexual interaction with a child like what is that yeah i have no idea it's got to be like some cycle of abuse like abuse generates abuse right like that's not a healthy thing like that's not good has ever i mean i wonder if there's like in the literature if there's ever any instances of that happening without abuse yeah i don't know i i do know how how I got into schools.

[343] That I've researched.

[344] Well, tell me how.

[345] Well, I mean, a lot of people don't know that the radicals of the 60s.

[346] There's this book.

[347] It's called The Critical Turn in Education.

[348] And I've been doing a podcast series on this book.

[349] It's written by a guy named Isaac Gottzman.

[350] He's a Marxist education theorist from Iowa State.

[351] And at the very beginning, it's like literally the first sentence of the book, he says, you know, well, where did all the radicals from the 60s go?

[352] Well, they didn't go to yuppied them.

[353] They didn't go to, I forget what he lists a couple of things.

[354] He says, no, they went to the classroom.

[355] And so a lot of those radicals, violent radicals, 68, 69, early 70s, you know, we could name Angela Davis, for example, as a key figure, literally went to K -12 activism.

[356] And through the 70s, they kind of prepared the ground.

[357] By about 1985, though, what this so -called critical turn in education, which means critical theory, or as this Gottzman says, he says, we shouldn't call it critical theory.

[358] You should call it what it is.

[359] We'd call it critical Marxism.

[360] By about 85, these guys had basically become dominant in terms setting teacher college training.

[361] So if you're going to go to teacher college somewhere, Marxists are teaching you how.

[362] And they bring in this guy from Brazil.

[363] His name's Paula Freire.

[364] Straight up Marxist educator.

[365] I've read his books.

[366] He's like quotes Marx.

[367] He quotes Lenin.

[368] He's like, this is how it should be.

[369] He's got this total weird idea like teachers and students, kids shouldn't have adults and children shouldn't have like a differential in power.

[370] They should be like equals with one another, which is a terrible idea because kids need structure.

[371] and boundaries and especially in a learning environment why would anybody what is the what's the motivation behind that the goal is to train them in what he calls conscientization i didn't say that right it's a hard word to say and here we are but to raise in them what's called a critical consciousness which is a marxist consciousness of oppression in society basically he's looking around and he says people are going to realize that they're dependent based on the society that they live in and rather than saying okay maybe you are you know maybe you're working a shit job maybe you're stuck, let's teach you responsibility how to take control of your own life and, you know, raise yourself up and work hard and put your head down or whatever.

[372] He says, no, we're going to go the collective route instead of the individual route.

[373] We're going to try to have a revolution.

[374] Ferreari famously says in this book from 85, which brought him into the U .S., a book called The Politics of Education, he says that the revolution, meaning communist revolution, has to be perpetual.

[375] He says, if a revolution ceases to be a revolutionary, it becomes a status quo.

[376] And so he says, as you awaken to this critical consciousness, this conscientization, which I still can't say, well, I've even got it stuck in Portuguese in my head.

[377] I don't read Portuguese, but it's usually not translated.

[378] And I can't, I can say that worse.

[379] Like, that's way bad if I try that one, conscientia to chow or something like that.

[380] And anyway, it means to awaken to consciousness.

[381] And so their goal by the mid -80s in education was to start turning education more and more and more along this erase all -power differentials, awaken a consciousness, and this queer theory stuff fits right within that.

[382] So you're doing that at the identity level by breaking down the barriers between gay and straight, male and female, et cetera.

[383] So it latches right into that.

[384] In fact, the communists have been using techniques in sexual liberation, et cetera, back to the 1920s.

[385] this dude George Lukach that overthrew Hungary or helped overthrow Hungary in their communist revolution in 1919 was he became like their deputy commissar of education.

[386] And his whole thing was like, let's sexualize the kids because it'll break them away from their religion.

[387] It'll break them away from their parents.

[388] They'll hate their parents because they won't understand, you know.

[389] And so he's like, let's sexualize the kids.

[390] This has been a thing that they've done throughout a lot of communist attempts, whether in the 20s and 20s, 30s and then again in the 60s with, you know, Herbert Marcuse leading like the sexual liberation kind of side of Marxism through the 60s.

[391] And they're doing it again.

[392] And so these people are Marxists.

[393] They started to take over education schools and they're not going to say no to this stuff when it comes knocking on the door.

[394] So this book, again, Critical Turning Education says it went in three stages.

[395] First, there was Marxist critiques in education.

[396] Then by the mid -80s and early 90s, the post -structuralist feminists took over the critique of education.

[397] And that's where they brought the queer stuff in.

[398] And I mean queer with like official queer theory.

[399] I'm not doing the, just be clear for the people who hate us.

[400] Look at the queer stuff.

[401] Yeah, the queer stuff.

[402] Which, by the way, the definition of that is an identity without an essence.

[403] I did this podcast about this paper by Hannah Dyer.

[404] She wrote a paper in 2016 about queer futurity in education, something, early childhood education.

[405] And she says in there explicitly that the point of queer theory is not to create a stable LGBTQ identity.

[406] It's in fact to not have stable identities at all because those become the status quo and that would be the problem.

[407] So you have to be constantly overturning that.

[408] I don't know if you know Dan Savage is.

[409] Yeah.

[410] Yeah, it gets better that guy.

[411] The whole last third of the papers criticizing it gets better saying, well, that means he's just admitting that is bad for kids.

[412] Like it's this message of hope that was super effective at curbing.

[413] And it's get it gets better means reaching out to young gay kids to tell them that there's going to come a point in time with it's going to feel okay yeah like listen yeah you'll find your community yeah it's a lot of it's awkward now like life's weird it's hard it's maybe it's harder for you because of some stuff you didn't sign up for and it gets better man don't don't give up it gets better and he even has this messaging in there like it's going to make you stronger you know it's super positive actually and so she just takes him to task for this so this is the post -structural feminists turned into the queer theorists.

[414] They got eaten up by Judith Butler coming along and saying, well, if gender is a social construct, well, maybe sex is a social construct too.

[415] Have you heard Douglas Murray talk about this?

[416] A little bit, yeah.

[417] Well, he talks about the end of civilization.

[418] At the end, when civilization started to crumble, they become obsessed with gender.

[419] And, yeah, androgyny and, yeah, the whole thing.

[420] And homonormativity over heteronormativity.

[421] He's got a whole thing about that.

[422] Like, they're trying to normalize that which is abnormal.

[423] And that's really the definition of queer theory.

[424] But what's funny, it's fascinating that, you see, Douglas has a free pass because he's gay, because he, he, and he's brilliant.

[425] So when he talks about these things, they don't know what to do.

[426] Yeah.

[427] Like, when he starts talking about these, you know, considerable issues when it comes to, like, trying to figure out what's what, you know, he can kind of get away with stuff.

[428] And when he explains that at the end of all these civilizations, with the Roman civilization, the Greek empire, they all started falling into this thing where they wanted to redefine gender.

[429] They do.

[430] Yeah, you can actually see it in, like, the statues and stuff.

[431] Yeah, it's really interesting.

[432] They go from being like these super buff dudes and like sexy babes.

[433] And then, you know, all of a sudden they all look like, you know, an anime character or something.

[434] I don't know.

[435] They look like NPCs eventually is what they look like.

[436] It's such a weird time because everything has happened so rapidly.

[437] Like if you go back, and it really is from the onset of social media.

[438] If you go back to pre -social media to what the world was like to today, the change has been.

[439] It's so radical.

[440] Oh, yeah.

[441] It's crazy how fast it is.

[442] I mean, think about it.

[443] We're totally connected to one another.

[444] Yeah.

[445] We conform our alliance is now worldwide based on what we think, what we agree with, what we think is funny, what we don't, rather than, oh, yeah, we all happen to be in Texas, so we've got to get along.

[446] Also, the amount of people that are interacting on social media is not, like, you know, I did a bit about it last night.

[447] It's not the large percentage of the population.

[448] It's a small percentage of the population that's shaping the way the culture thinks about things because they're the ones that are talking the most.

[449] Right.

[450] So these are people that are obsessed people.

[451] Obsessive.

[452] Obsessives.

[453] Yeah.

[454] And socially awkward ones too.

[455] Yeah, a lot of them.

[456] You know, we don't, I know I'm going to sound like Jordan Peterson with the whole, you know, we don't know the effects that this will bring.

[457] But, you know, but really we don't.

[458] We suddenly went from, with the advent of social media, we went from in an era where extroverts by kind of definition kind of ruled the public sphere.

[459] Introverts did a lot of important work.

[460] We're not to discount that.

[461] But once you get them online, now introverts have this hugely expanded voice while extroverts are out doing cool stuff and they're not on the internet.

[462] And then you add in people with like social anxiety issues.

[463] Well, they're not out hanging out and like going to the bar because they have social anxiety.

[464] What are they doing?

[465] They're on the internet yelling at people.

[466] Yeah.

[467] And then you get certain ones of these people who are absolute obsessives.

[468] And I'll tell you about this fanatic thing, this obsessives.

[469] So the military, it turns out Eisenhower after World War II was like, all right, these black soldiers fought like hell for us.

[470] We're going to desegiate the military.

[471] This is way before like the schools or any other thing.

[472] You're like, we're going to do this.

[473] And so they're like, how do we integrate the units, right?

[474] How do we do this?

[475] And so they started this thing with these different approaches to diversity training.

[476] What we would recognize is so -called diversity training now.

[477] And the first program they had, they called it putting them on the hot seat.

[478] And what they would do is they would basically do what diversity training and workplaces does now.

[479] You know, they'd put like some guy down there and make him confess all of his different racist ideas and, you know, then have like a lesson about it.

[480] And like everybody would have to confess their racist stuff.

[481] And they'd put the black people there and like, oh, I've always thought this bad stuff about you.

[482] And what they found out was that for a small percentage of the group, it worked.

[483] It made them more aware of these attitudes and biases and what a jerk they're being.

[484] and it worked.

[485] And then for most of the people, they actually had way less of a problem with race than anybody was assuming, and it didn't really do anything.

[486] Plus, it's all just kind of a waste of time, and nobody likes administrative BS anyway.

[487] They just want to do the stuff.

[488] But then for another small segment, maybe about, I don't know what percentage, so I don't want to make some number up, but some small percentage.

[489] They literally became fanatics.

[490] That's the word in the report.

[491] They became fanatics who wouldn't do anything except go around and call everybody racist all the time for everything.

[492] It's Twitter.

[493] Yeah, it was so bad that they had to cancel the program.

[494] And that's right.

[495] It's exactly right.

[496] It's Twitter.

[497] And so, you know, these obsessives, I just mentioned, you know, post -structural feminism working into the critical turn in education or whatever.

[498] Critical race theory, by the way, is the third step, Gotsman says, is the turned education.

[499] But, you know, I just mentioned that.

[500] But they were the bloggers, man. Back in, like, 08, 2009, it was like every blog in the universe was some feminist woman bitching about something.

[501] and like bishing about somebody and bitching about you know why can't we grow out our armpit hair why can't we stink why do we have why can't we wear you know whatever clothes we want why can't we do this why can't we do that and it's patriarchy patriarchy these people there's your obsessives right yeah they and they totally dominated that blog sphere when before like even like there was like pre -social media or barely social media time and that's where everybody was like sharing these ideas.

[502] And so these obsessives gained an extraordinarily outsized voice.

[503] Now, have you heard a renormalization?

[504] No. Okay, this is a big idea because it's the idea that a very small group of extremely intolerant people can change a very large number of normal people.

[505] So three or four percent being just absolutely intolerant can move the entire needle.

[506] And the way it works, the example, I saw this video on YouTube, so I'm stealing this.

[507] The way it works, is like you can imagine like a family of four and you got like you know the daughter or whatever decide she's vegan and teenage daughter she's like I'm vegan now and so like whoever's cooking the parents are like well I can cook two meals or I can you know get in a fight every night at dinner or I can just cook some vegan stuff right and all of your options are basically unless you're going to go kind of like hard -nosed all of your options are kind of bad except just keep the piece and that's it be soft be nice keep the peace no struggle no no uh don't offend anybody right and so now your your whole family's cooking vegan meals so now the neighborhood has a barbecue you got one girl who's actually vegan whole family's eating vegan and they're like well we need vegan options and so now the barbecue of the neighborhood's like well we got to do something for the johnson's down the street you know they're vegans now and so what can happen is like the whole neighborhood now has to accommodate vegans but there's one vegan right and you can just see how this expands that.

[508] This process is called renormalization.

[509] So when you have this small contingent of obsessives, which these people who are in these Marxist ideologies, woke Marxism is what I don't even call it woke anymore.

[510] I call it woke Marxism.

[511] Woke Marxists are completely obsessives and they're completely intolerant.

[512] Anything but their way is, you know, sexist, racist, probably capitalist, patriarchal.

[513] And you are the worst kind of person and the dumbest person and probably crazy for not going along with him.

[514] And they can renormalize an entire, say, social media platform, at which point they have this massive amount of dominance over the national discourse.

[515] Well, especially if that kind of ideology gets into the administration of that social media platform, which it has on basically all of them.

[516] My friend Janus Pappas just got a strike against his account on YouTube.

[517] And I'm going to read you the transcript of what they struck because this is wild shit because it's it's gotten to the point where it doesn't have to have anything to do with there's not it has nothing to do with bullying nothing to do with hate nothing to do with anything like he's just joking around about stuff and he makes a a point or he makes a joke that is uh it's it's essentially you know i mean he's just being silly about the gay pride parade and he said I support gay rights but can we move the gay parade tonight so I can explain gay rights to my daughter without having to see your asshole before noon that's a joke it's just a joke they gave him a strike on his account for that yeah I mean this is wild shit and then there was another one that he had that was about uh there was another one that he had about I think it was about uh justin beber or something like that um which was even more yeah here it is uh beber's uh old n word yeah this is what he posted yeah that's it but look go down below look here uh yeah that's it it's the top one um jared i like to hum myself i like melodies i like to sing that's my thing son but i don't discriminate against any music you you know, play Hootie, play Leonard Skinner, play whatever, I'm down for it.

[518] What the fuck is that?

[519] How is that in any way?

[520] Like, how is that the thing that they highlighted as something that YouTube is going to ban?

[521] Like, that doesn't even make any sense.

[522] That's nuts.

[523] I mean, I thought I had it.

[524] Play Hootie, play Leonard Skinner, play whatever, I'm down for it.

[525] What the fuck is that?

[526] How could anybody think that that is offensive?

[527] I mean.

[528] But that makes no sense.

[529] That makes no sense I thought my example was like crazy I got dinged for saying that Onion Rings cure COVID Blah That should be so obviously parody But Janice the thing is He's a male Comedian Yeah And you know he jokes around about shit He's a very open -minded guy He's very progressive He's very intelligent And there's somehow another Lumping him in With like a bad person Or with an alt -right or whatever That's the game, man. That is the game.

[530] I mean, it happens with fucking smart people.

[531] Right.

[532] Smart people make that, they use that pejorative.

[533] They, you know, oh, these alt -right people.

[534] I'm like, stop.

[535] You're talking about people that aren't even remotely alt -right.

[536] Like, don't do that.

[537] Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[538] I mean, that was a whole thing.

[539] Like, you know, we had just the other day here on the show.

[540] You had the, you know, Tim Poole's alt -right or whatever it was.

[541] It wasn't quite that.

[542] He said that to try to diminish what Josh Zep's been saying about Australia.

[543] Because he works for Australian media.

[544] and he's trying to be nice, nice over there.

[545] No, I hear you.

[546] Australia is scaring the shit out of me, though, I'll tell you that.

[547] It should, you know, and it didn't, Josh, and he lives there.

[548] And I think, you know, sometimes people, when they work for an organization that is going along with the government's rules and guidelines, and they think everything's good and fine, and you don't live in Australia, so you don't know.

[549] Yeah.

[550] We're all vaccinated, so we're free, and you're wrong, and this is right.

[551] Like, you're not convincing me by telling me that people like Majid Nawaz are all.

[552] that is fucking nonsense right totally that's so dumb it's so crazy to call him all right and they call Tim Poole all right as well yeah Tim is if anything he's a centrist yeah he's just a guy who he's a fucking he was like an on the boot a boots on the ground journalist for vice yeah yeah he was like all up in occupy yeah he was an occupy wall street guy yeah he was like right there I know Tim very well he's not all right at all but he'll entertain a conversation with anybody he will he like he had um okay Okay, he had O 'Keefe from Project Veritas on the other day.

[553] Yeah.

[554] And that's like, that guy's the boogeyman to the left.

[555] You can't, like, even if what he's saying is a fucking threat, he's exposing threats to democracy.

[556] Yeah.

[557] He's exposing real live corruption.

[558] He's exposing real live conspiracies.

[559] Yeah.

[560] And they're like, oh, no, but it's Veritas.

[561] But it's Veritas, yeah.

[562] They've somehow or another decided that an individual can be, like, you could, you could.

[563] It's almost like a cure to the reality of whatever he's exposing.

[564] Like you could say, oh, it doesn't matter because it's James O 'Keefe.

[565] And you could put that on top of the thing and it all goes away.

[566] Yeah, exactly.

[567] It's extremely wild.

[568] I mean, that's the, I mean, that's again, your show, blew open mass formation psychosis.

[569] Well, that's not a thing.

[570] Don't you know?

[571] That's not even a thing?

[572] Well, yeah, I saw.

[573] It's not even a real thing.

[574] I mean, there's books like back to the 1800s about it, but it's not a thing.

[575] But it's not real.

[576] It's not real.

[577] It's fake.

[578] Well, there's a certain psychologist that went to a college.

[579] told me a style of thing.

[580] So there's that.

[581] You know, it's for sure, whatever you want to call it.

[582] Like something's going on where people get to feel morally superior, whether their execs at Instagram who are going to knock down, or interns or whoever knocks down that account.

[583] Yeah.

[584] And they get to be morally superior or, you know, look at this drop.

[585] Veritas just did.

[586] Like, I don't know if that thing that they just did with the COVID is like panned out or not.

[587] But if it did, that's like somebody should probably be looking into this.

[588] that you know what's fascinating is how it is completely 100 % ignored by the left wing media it's like it does fox is the only people covering it and how much is fox covering it quite a bit i don't i don't watch tv so i don't know tuckers talked about it Tucker's talked about it but if you look on left wing media rachel maddow and oh it doesn't exist it doesn't exist it's it's not you even if you think it's a lie you have to cover it it's a significant issue we know we know need to get to the bottom of it.

[589] Are these documents true?

[590] Are they correct?

[591] Yeah, exactly.

[592] Is is it true that this leaked, according to the document, that this leaked COVID -19?

[593] It leaked actually not in November, December, whatever it was, but in August.

[594] Is it true that it was created and there's these patents?

[595] Is it true that they knew that hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin the other things you're not allowed to say anywhere could work as curatives?

[596] Because that's in, I don't know all the facts.

[597] I don't even claim to, but I know that's in the document.

[598] I read the document.

[599] Not only that, this concerted effort by a group of these people, Francis Collins and Fauci and all these people, to try to demonize these distinguished intellectuals.

[600] The Great Barrington.

[601] Yeah.

[602] Oxford.

[603] Harvard.

[604] Lots of lunatic extremists there, right?

[605] Guys who are experts in their field.

[606] Total fringe guys, Oxford.

[607] Who's ever heard of that crap hole?

[608] It's so strange.

[609] And meanwhile, Left -wing media ignores, ignore, ignore, it didn't happen, didn't happen.

[610] Absolutely didn't.

[611] It's so, the only people that you can trust that are left -wing are the independent people.

[612] And that's why it's so strange.

[613] It's the strangest time ever.

[614] It really is.

[615] It's wonderful for independent people.

[616] Because for people like Crystal and Sager from breaking points, it's opening the door.

[617] For people like the Hill, like Kim Iverson, it's opening the door for people to expose these things.

[618] So you get a chance to see these independent people rise.

[619] And then more people go, hey, you've got to listen to this lady, talk about this.

[620] She explains it in very rational, factual terms.

[621] And now people will pay attention to Kim Iverson.

[622] Now people pay attention to Crystal and Saga.

[623] I watched Kim this morning.

[624] As a matter of fact, she did a thing.

[625] I don't know when she did it because it's on the internet.

[626] So who the hell knows when the actual video was?

[627] The YouTube video got sent to me. And it's Kim Iverson.

[628] And they were like, what's on your mind, Kim?

[629] She has a little segment on her show.

[630] And she was like, the Great Reset.

[631] And she's like, here's some key things to know about it.

[632] And it's like, it has like bullet points on the screen.

[633] and it's like number one it's real it's like okay just to kind of like tie that not a little bit tighter though we're talking about CNN the media won't talk about these these things just vanishes so do you know klaus schwab has a new book after COVID -19 the Great Reset you know what it's called what I shit you not it's called the great narrative oh yeah right I haven't read that yet what is where's his background like I never heard of him it's very hard to find out about his background actually if you look him up No. It's all shadowy.

[634] I was born in a cave.

[635] Something like that.

[636] I've heard stories about his parentage that probably shouldn't be repeated on air because we don't know what they are.

[637] Somewhere in the middle of the earth is a secret laboratory where I was born.

[638] Yeah, he's, but he's been doing this since the 70s.

[639] Like he started, it wasn't called the World Economic Forum in 71, but that's when he wrote his first thing to try to come up with his stakeholder capitalism scam that he's worked out and tried to foist on the world.

[640] And so the Great Reset, obviously, people are like, wait, what is this bullshit?

[641] It's like, it's not going well for them.

[642] So now he comes out with the book, The Great Narrative.

[643] And then you look at what CNN's doing, you look at all the left wing media, MSNBC, you're like, and that's been the hot word of a year, right?

[644] The narrative, the narrative, the what is it, January 6th has a narrative.

[645] Everything has a narrative.

[646] What do you think the people that are on the talking heads that are on these networks, how do you think that works?

[647] Do you think they get informed as to what the narrative is, what they're allowed to and not allowed to discuss?

[648] I know they're getting lists of things they're not allowed to discuss.

[649] How do you know this?

[650] Because I know somebody who went on TV and got yelled at for it.

[651] I can't verify it.

[652] The guy told me in person.

[653] What did he say he got yelled at for?

[654] I'll even tell you who the guy is.

[655] So we're going to name one of those names you're not allowed to name.

[656] Mike Lindell, the Mike Pillow guy.

[657] Oh.

[658] I met him at Mar -a -Lago last year.

[659] He's a little silly.

[660] He is.

[661] but he said that what guy he is in fact he's quite a bit silly yeah um apparently if you get the pillows you have to put them in the dryer to activate them i don't know what that's about activate them i don't know what this is about wait a minute what are you saying i've heard that the pillows if i'm not supposed to like i don't want to like piss on the guy's business but i heard the pillows suck and then if you put them in the dryer they're really good what are you talking about like what there's just a pillow no it's just a pillow no it's just a how could it change when you put in a dryer who knows probably gets hot and like i don't know i don't have like a hot pillow i don't Like all these other people I know have these like coupon codes to like go get your MyPillow.

[662] Hold, what is this?

[663] The patented fill will lock into place when laying on your back bunch MyPillow registered under the curve of your neck to get the right amount of support for you as an individual.

[664] What does that mean?

[665] As opposed to what, you as a group?

[666] Yeah.

[667] Before first use, place in a dryer for 10 to 15 minutes with a damp washcloth to activate the patented interlocking fill.

[668] I have no idea how it works.

[669] What is in there?

[670] All I know is that he got...

[671] I saw him at Mar -A -Lago.

[672] You see a picture of one of these fucking things.

[673] What's the deal?

[674] Is it just a foam pillow?

[675] Holy shit.

[676] It's like in a little box...

[677] It comes in a bag?

[678] It's like a...

[679] It's let all the air sucked out of it.

[680] Look at this.

[681] Place pillow in a dryer for 15 minutes before first use.

[682] It says it in the bag?

[683] Yeah.

[684] Have you ever seen one of these, Jamie?

[685] I have not needed...

[686] Purchased a my pillow.

[687] I have gone on other routes.

[688] He has the slippers.

[689] What do you got?

[690] Other pillows.

[691] I don't fucking know.

[692] I got one of these...

[693] roovy foam ones that's like it's like a hole for your head and your head sits in there what locks and in place mine's like memory foam on one side and like soft shit on top oh i love it yeah mine's like some kind of memory foam too but it's memory foam but it's like contoured to your yeah it's got to be contour to ruin your life i fuck my neck up i got a really stiff thick pillow and i was sleeping on it for like a couple of weeks but i was sleeping with my head kind of bent because it's so thick yeah and i got a kink on the left side of my neck and i've been fucking rubbing it out every day.

[694] I'll work that out for you later.

[695] What are you, a massage therapist?

[696] I was for 10 years, yeah.

[697] Wait, really?

[698] I just retired my license this year, yeah.

[699] No shit.

[700] Yeah.

[701] Because what I've been doing is I use, like, we have this company that was a sponsor, Hyper Ice, and they have this ball.

[702] It's called the hypersphere.

[703] It's the shit.

[704] You press a button, it goes, bv, and then press another button.

[705] It press it again, he goes, and another button, it goes, like the same button, just keep pressing.

[706] Yeah, I got you.

[707] That was like, that's exactly that spaceballs thing, by the way, that scene with the radar.

[708] Oh, really?

[709] Yeah, you did.

[710] Sounds good.

[711] Thank you.

[712] So, anyway, I get this vibrating ball and I put it under my neck and then I bridge on it.

[713] So I get on there and really dig into it.

[714] Is it intense kind of guy?

[715] Yeah.

[716] You can be.

[717] Yes.

[718] You're pretty chill, too, though.

[719] Most of the time.

[720] Most of the time.

[721] I have a switch.

[722] I don't like to keep it under wraps.

[723] I think most people do.

[724] Yes.

[725] Most people do.

[726] So, speaking of the switch, though.

[727] So my pillow guy.

[728] My pillow guy was flipping out.

[729] Like, he's just, like, I tried to just go up, like, I thought, okay, let's go meet the guy.

[730] Say hi.

[731] We're, like, Trump's over there.

[732] Like, let's talk.

[733] And, like, he's just mad.

[734] And he's, like, ranting about his experience on the media.

[735] And I don't know if it's on, like, Hannity or one of these guys.

[736] He went on one of these Fox guys.

[737] And they literally on the desk had a list of stuff that if the guest goes there, take it away.

[738] And he went, like, just, this was about the election fraud stuff that he got all booked on.

[739] And he went, like, balls to the wall into it.

[740] and they, like, took his microphone from him and everything.

[741] So there's a list of stuff they're not supposed to talk about.

[742] Yeah, but that actually kind of makes sense because, like, if you're running around saying the election was a fraud, that Donald Trump is the true president, and, like, they can get in trouble for that.

[743] Like, that's a real problem, because you're promoting propaganda, you're, like, if you have that person on your network and you're putting it out on the airwaves, there's a faction of our country that really does believe that the true president is Donald Trump and that JFK Jr's alive and he's going to meet Donald Trump in the middle of fucking Dealey Plaza.

[744] That's a bit thick there.

[745] Yeah.

[746] But you know what I mean?

[747] Like the lot of those QAnon dorks, they believe that stuff.

[748] Right.

[749] So if you go and start spouting out that kind of shit on TV, on Fox, that's bad for business.

[750] Well, I mean, he had this whole.

[751] Because people have this thing about Fox already.

[752] Right.

[753] Is that it's the home for like less than it.

[754] Sorry, Fox.

[755] It's a home for a less educated, loony people that are more inclined to believe in Pizza Gate, right?

[756] Yeah, like Texans.

[757] Yeah.

[758] What?

[759] No, I'm just kidding.

[760] Hey, son of a bitch.

[761] That'll teach you to move.

[762] So when a guy like, so when a guy like Mike Lindell, is that his name?

[763] Yeah.

[764] So when he goes on a network and he says a lot of wacky shit, like, he said some wacky shit before, right?

[765] Right.

[766] He has, but I said last night, our friend, but I haven't met him yet, Alex.

[767] Jones, is it a lot of wacky shit.

[768] No. Yeah, we need to meet Alex.

[769] Yeah, we got to get together.

[770] Yeah, we need to make that happen.

[771] Yeah, that'll be fun.

[772] So anyway, I think that we, I actually believe that we should be having, and this is what the internet's causing is a lot of open dialogue about things, some of which is going to be wacky.

[773] I actually no longer worry about misinformation.

[774] I actually don't worry about it anymore.

[775] I worry about propaganda, but I don't worry about misinformation.

[776] And the reason I don't worry about misinformation is because if the ideas are out there and people are discussing them, one thing you find out is that stupid stuff gets shot down fast.

[777] How do you know?

[778] Look at the official narratives like it spun around COVID and look how fast internet.

[779] its sluice were like, nope.

[780] Like what?

[781] Well, like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin being things that you can take that might help.

[782] Like people were figuring that out in like March of 2020 before it was even like a thing.

[783] Right.

[784] But there are a lot of people that don't believe it, including doctors.

[785] There's a lot of doctors.

[786] Look, my doctor prescribed it.

[787] I have several friends who have doctors that prescribe it.

[788] But now they're having a really hard time finding it.

[789] Yeah.

[790] Even though it's an incredibly common medication, they're trying to actively stop people from taking it.

[791] And there's certain doctors that they won't prescribe it for you.

[792] You ask for it, they'll say, would you pay attention to Joe Rogan or something?

[793] Like, they literally get upset about it.

[794] But there's a long history of use of that stuff.

[795] Yeah.

[796] But there isn't, there's a large chunk of our country that believes that it's horse medication and that it's dangerous.

[797] Yeah, I know.

[798] There was a line of people waiting to get into to an emergency room in Oklahoma for gunshot wounds because there was so many people there that were overdosing on Ivermectin.

[799] Rolling Stone said it, Rachel Maddow said it.

[800] It's 100 % full shit.

[801] It never happened.

[802] By the way, how many people are getting shot in Oklahoma?

[803] What is this, the Wild West?

[804] You got a line of people with gunshot wounds in their hands?

[805] Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[806] It doesn't even make sense.

[807] I've been to Oklahoma City, it's nice.

[808] It's a great place.

[809] No, that's what I'm saying though.

[810] It's like, so they've got the official narratives that they can put out.

[811] And then I think that I'm not worried about misinformation.

[812] In fact, I think that more information is generally better.

[813] And then we have this ability for these ideas to compete.

[814] And for ones not necessarily that are better, but often ones that are better, but also ones that are, you know, the danger is the ones that are more sticky or salient or interesting or that they get people's emotions going or whatever.

[815] There are processes, though, the selection processes is to let ideas rise up to the top.

[816] If they're not censored.

[817] that's what I'm saying right so that's what I'm saying is I don't think that we should be censoring these things like if Mike Lindell for example is doing this gigantic thing maybe it's all complete horseshit but he's got like the statistics and he's done all this thing and the voting machines and the Dominion and he's done like he's got all this shit and like he's put millions like this maybe is a newsworthy thing if for no other reason so that it gets more eyeballs on it so people can say this is where it's bullshit this is where that falls apart if it's kind of like it's where this stuff gets caught up in these little corners where a confessor that I worry more about bad info.

[818] I want to see it as open as possible.

[819] I'm not saying that Fox has to like do whatever with its programming, but I'm saying that it's, you know, better that we're having kind of a free information economy, if you will, than one that's, we've got the official gatekeepers of that, whether they're stupid, I almost said the F word, professors, I'm really mad at professors, by the way.

[820] These fucking professors.

[821] Yeah, the other day I gave this talk.

[822] For these, like, very nice people and, you know, some of them were quite religious, and they were like, just don't say the F word during your talk.

[823] And I was like, okay, but what if it's like fucking commies?

[824] And they're like, well, you can say fucking communists, but no other way.

[825] And what?

[826] Yeah, if you say fucking communists.

[827] You can't say, fuck you.

[828] You can say fucking communists.

[829] I mean, I could have said it.

[830] It's like free speech.

[831] But they.

[832] They asked you not swear.

[833] Don't swear.

[834] But if communist is the next word.

[835] So I'm like that with professors right now in many regards, but also these media heads.

[836] Like, I don't need a. aristocracy telling me how ideas, which ideas are going to be true and false.

[837] Now, as you know, we talked about postmodernism last time I was here with you.

[838] I'm not exactly a postmodernist, but I listened.

[839] I read that shit, right?

[840] And I didn't just read it to like, oh, this is why these guys are wrong.

[841] I read it, right?

[842] I read Michel Foucault, for example.

[843] And he talks about how power works.

[844] And he's got a lot of crazy shit in there because he's ultimately at the bottom of Marxist.

[845] And so capitalism has to be the problem of everything.

[846] But he's got a lot of stuff that we should be listening to you right now.

[847] What he's saying is if you have the official power, he's saying it's always this, but I don't think that's true.

[848] But if you have the official power of like the state and the media or whatever, and they get to decide what's true, they impose like a narrative of truth.

[849] Like there's these aristocrats, professors, media personalities, et cetera, they get to decide what's true for everybody.

[850] And that's what we all have to nod our heads and go along with.

[851] Uh -uh.

[852] I don't like that.

[853] I think that the aristocracy that we had in the 19th century was not a great thing.

[854] In 17th century, I don't think that was a great thing.

[855] It surfs, you know, getting abused and whatever else.

[856] I think we've got the exact same scenario going on in the information world right now.

[857] And the internet's breaking it free.

[858] So guys like Alex Jones breaking it free.

[859] And what do they do?

[860] Turns out he was like right about 93 and a half percent of everything he said, except for maybe the Satan stuff.

[861] I don't know.

[862] But then, right.

[863] Interdimensional child molesters.

[864] Interdimensional.

[865] So, but he was right about an uncanny amount of stuff.

[866] An uncanny amount of stuff.

[867] And what do they do?

[868] he was the first guy.

[869] They sliced him off everything.

[870] They shut him down off of all of the social media.

[871] That was the beginning of this.

[872] He was the beginning of this.

[873] And that was a guy that they felt they could justify because of Sandy Hook.

[874] Yeah, exactly.

[875] And so they used that and then they used that to silence him.

[876] And then they moved forward from there and just start silencing all kinds of different people.

[877] Right.

[878] And so like I look at that and I think, no, I want the opposite of that.

[879] So I'd rather have, you know, occasionally you end up with Mike Lindell on Fox News talking.

[880] Like if, sanity wants, or whoever it was, I don't know, wants to have him on the show, like, let it freewheel, let his idea get out there.

[881] And then, like, let's say it's 100 % bullshit.

[882] Let all these geniuses on the internet, because they're everywhere, and they don't have anything else to do, start crunching the numbers and be like, here's where he made his mistake.

[883] The problem is that it dismisses the credibility of Fox News.

[884] It diminishes the credibility of Fox News.

[885] I don't think that they have any.

[886] Fox News.

[887] They do to people that like Fox News.

[888] I know, but that's the problem.

[889] You don't think the Tucker Carlson's show is credibility?

[890] No, it does, actually.

[891] But what I'm saying is in general, I don't like this.

[892] He's got a huge, you also have a huge platform.

[893] I'm getting a platform.

[894] You're platformed right now.

[895] I am, thank you for platforming me. I feel so platformed.

[896] No, but it's like, I feel like, like, we don't want to have a very relatively small number of characters that head these things up, getting to determine what is going to be credible true.

[897] I agree with you.

[898] However, when you're a person who's looking at this from the outside, you say this guy is on TV.

[899] in front of millions of people and he's saying things that are absolutely not true that are in fact dangerous to democracy because he's saying that our elections are they're invalid they're rigged they're fake Donald Trump should be the president and that allows all these other people that are doing whether it's the people that are censoring folks on YouTube the people that are censoring folks on Twitter they look at this go see this is why we have to do this no I get this kind of shit can get out and we have to stop this shit from getting out.

[900] So if Hannity or whatever these guys, they can stop the most egregiously silly ideas or the provably untrue ideas.

[901] Yeah, but so they can stop that.

[902] But we don't want like Rachel Maddow deciding that you can't take horse to warmer or Joe Rogan's gray on CNN.

[903] No, I'm not saying we do, but I'm saying that the reason why they feel like they have to do this is because of the fact that it's so easy to dismiss them right now.

[904] Also, if you look at it from a perspective like strategy there's one versus many like they're they're kind of surrounded yeah if you looked at fox news and i'm not saying like it's not a value judgment like one's wrong or ones i'm just saying if you looked at like the way their perspective on the right is represented in the news there's fucking no one left oh what o a n that that wacky news network yeah they just got kicked off a direct tv yeah yeah well they're still on verizon right right right A few other of those cable, but DirecTV is huge.

[905] Right.

[906] Well, speaking, we mentioned, speaking of kicking people off, Mike Lundell just got, like, his ability to bank shut down.

[907] Tell me what you were saying earlier because you were, you glossed over it, but then you stopped.

[908] He said he spent millions of dollars on this shit.

[909] Oh, what is it?

[910] He was trying, he's utterly convinced.

[911] And this is actually important about the democracy point you raised.

[912] He's utterly convinced that there was, you know, misfeasance with regard to.

[913] Malfizance, is that it is?

[914] Well, it's probably Mal actually instead of missed.

[915] Both are words, but it's less bad.

[916] So we'll say Malfioucissons.

[917] It's really bad.

[918] So he thinks that they use the Dominion machines, they had shady programming, et cetera.

[919] And I don't know the details of his hypothesis, but that they were changing the numbers in a particular way to move votes from one guy, from Trump to Biden, et cetera.

[920] And so he spent millions of dollars on some kind of a statistical analysis to dig into this, right?

[921] and really yeah and so that's like he had this whole conference like in south dakota or something about it over like the summer last year like there's the whole thing and so he's trying to make this point and what there are like it or not millions upon millions of americans who are looking at the 2020 election and they're kind of squinting one eye and they're like okay maybe something like maybe as many as 50 or 80 million americans are like i think something shady went on there and so he's got this hypothesis right so the distrust in the democratic process in the country is already shaken.

[922] So my view is when somebody's bringing up a point like this, the only way, like if something happens where people are suspicious enough or there's a guy that's going to devote millions of dollars to something like that, you've really, of course, you could just have a crazy guy with a lot of money.

[923] That's always possible.

[924] But the way that you recover, what's dangerous to democracy is not tying off those loose ends, right?

[925] So if you leave that open, like the trust is already shattered.

[926] Right.

[927] And so what you want is this, so he comes up with this hypothesis.

[928] And okay, and he spent all this money and he presents his evidence.

[929] And then people, you know, as ideally transparently as possible, analyze the evidence that he presents and says, this is, oh my God, this is an emergency or there might be something here.

[930] Or, you know, this is total bullshit.

[931] You're crazy person.

[932] And we're never going to hear from you again in any significant way.

[933] Go go home.

[934] That is what's missing, is that transparency.

[935] So what's dangerous for me to democracy is the idea that there are going to be people, whether it's Sean Hannity on Fox, whether it's Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, whether it's Don Lemon on CNN, whether it's, you know, Anthony Fauci, whatever the hell he is, whether it's Joe Biden, you know, back in 1989 because he doesn't know where he is, whatever it happens to be, I don't think it's good for anything.

[936] If those people get to delimit what we're going to see as officially true, and that's what we have to go with.

[937] Because that's the mess that we're in with why you got attacked for taking horse medicine, even though you took the human version, obviously, and you took a Nobel Prize winning medicine with decades of, you know, human use and science and success behind it.

[938] And that was a decision made between yourself to take it and your doctor as the consultant who recommended and was able to get you the prescription to get it.

[939] That wasn't, Anthony Fauci didn't need to intervene in that discussion.

[940] You could have taken these pills, which have a long time of human use, and it could have done nothing.

[941] It could have just given you diarrhea, or, you know, it could have made you sick or whatever, and then your doctor could have reacted accordingly to try to create a treatment protocol for you tailored to what's actually going on in your individual body as you dealt with the coup.

[942] You don't need a bureaucrat, I think, deciding, no, no, no, these are the official things that we're going to say work and don't work, because that's where you get yourself in these really dangerous positions.

[943] I agree with everything you said.

[944] Have you ever listened to what Mike Lindell says and did you ever look at his evidence?

[945] Oh, I think he's a bit nutty.

[946] But did you ever look at his evidence about the stolen election?

[947] I did not.

[948] I did not.

[949] What do you think he's nutty about?

[950] I mean, I think he's nutty too, but I don't have, like if you cornered me and go, why is he nutty?

[951] I'm like, I saw him in an interview once.

[952] He looked wacky.

[953] Well, I mean, yeah, there's that.

[954] It's probably people have that opinion to me. I mean, when I met him, he actually, what did he say?

[955] He said something really funny because he used to be on crack, right?

[956] Really?

[957] Yeah, he used to be like a crackhead.

[958] For real?

[959] I'm not making that up.

[960] Yeah, totally.

[961] And so he made some joke about how, you know, he said something and he was like, I didn't even have to smoke crack to say that or whatever, you know, some kind of a joke like that.

[962] And it's like, okay.

[963] Anyway, I don't have the skill, in fact, to parse his evidence, but such people do, or certain people do.

[964] Look at this.

[965] How this entrepreneur went from a crack addict to self -made millionaire.

[966] Yeah.

[967] So this is before he was nutty.

[968] This is 2017.

[969] He was like just a self -made millionaire.

[970] It's like he wasn't a nut back then.

[971] 2017, he was allowed to be nutty.

[972] So I don't...

[973] He was sober for over eight years.

[974] Oh, so 2011, smoking that rock.

[975] Maybe he's got a really good idea.

[976] Yeah, really good idea where he's cracked out.

[977] When did he start the company?

[978] Let's find out when the company got started.

[979] I bet 2012.

[980] I mean, are these fucking pillows worth buying?

[981] I don't have one.

[982] I don't have one.

[983] I feel like I'm very curious.

[984] curious i mean 2004 2004 so he started the company cracked out cracked out yeah cracked out making pillows yeah so you know did better than the kid from harvard that was trying to make pillows to compete with him that didn't go so good was there a kid from harvard yeah david hogg we oh that kid yeah he made pillows yeah he called him i think he called him like our pillow or something oh communist shit silly no my god that's so silly now his does anybody analyze his stuff Yeah, well.

[985] And say, the My Pillow guy's got a point?

[986] I don't know, but people could.

[987] And I would rather it be out there and have that transparency to the maximum degree with people who are weighing in on this and saying, no, actually, he's totally nuts.

[988] I agree.

[989] I think there should be platforms in terms of, you know, whether it's like a YouTube or a Twitter and Facebook and all these fall into this thing that are accessible to all Americans.

[990] Yeah.

[991] Because I think they're a basic human rights.

[992] Because the right to express yourself, when we live in this very strange time of misinformation, disinformation, the counter that should be more communication.

[993] I think so.

[994] And like I said, I think we're actually, I think like truth, I actually do this sort of spiritual sounding, but I think of truth like a flame.

[995] Like it burns its way out of boxes of lies that it gets put into.

[996] That sounds like a betmiller song.

[997] Is it?

[998] Some say a love.

[999] Oh, no. No, that's something else, Joe.

[1000] according to the headlines when I Google the evidence he has for voter fraud from last week he has claims that he has evidence that will put up to 300 million Americans in jail for up to life.

[1001] We're going to jail.

[1002] That's a lot of people.

[1003] For life?

[1004] See, that's nutty.

[1005] That's his wacky.

[1006] This is a headline.

[1007] There are only 330 million.

[1008] Well, maybe he was doing a Biden thing.

[1009] He's old.

[1010] He fucked his brain up on crack.

[1011] And you remember when Biden said like, Sue, over one billion Americans have been vaccinated.

[1012] Get rationing.

[1013] Remember when you did that?

[1014] 300 million people belong in jail for voter fraud.

[1015] That's unlikely to be true unless he's talking globally, in which case it's still unlikely to be true.

[1016] He's an entrepreneur.

[1017] You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[1018] This guy is a genius.

[1019] But, yeah, that's wacky.

[1020] I would love to see that shot down through robust public debate.

[1021] I would too, but if you're Hannity and you've got a seven -minute, minute segment with this fucking loon you don't want this guy spouting this kind of crazy shit on your show because you call him in the first place diminish the accuracy of your show i don't know maybe there's something else to talk about well it's maybe there's something else he's on a bit of a quest you know to prove that the voter fraud was yeah yeah so and again i maybe it's hennedy's not the place for it i don't know but i would rather fox though does it make sense to you that you wouldn't want someone saying that on your network um possibly it you're It depends on its general public salience.

[1022] Like, is this a huge discussion point that Fox has been dancing around a little bit here and there, but they won't.

[1023] So in that case, it's like, let's bring this guy in, hear what his evidence is, and then start bringing up counterpoints if you want to bring up counterpoints.

[1024] I just don't want any, I think that where we're trapped the most is that people like, whoever it is that Instagram gets to strike down your buddy and my onion ring joke.

[1025] and whoever it is, like you were saying, the social media platforms should be free for everybody.

[1026] I don't think that we want people, that we don't even necessarily know who they are in a lot of cases, getting to make the decisions of what is and is not going to be considered true, especially when they're putting flags on stuff like Leonard, Skinner, and Hootie.

[1027] They're doing something that is, without a doubt, suppressing certain views and perspectives.

[1028] And imagine a world where Milo Yianopoulos has never been from Twitter.

[1029] McGinnis never banned from Twitter.

[1030] Alex Jones never banned from Twitter.

[1031] Donald Trump never banned from Twitter.

[1032] People go, well, those are terrible people.

[1033] Well, guess who's not banned from Twitter?

[1034] The head of the fucking Taliban.

[1035] Okay, guess who's not banned from Twitter?

[1036] Cardinal Ratzinger, a man who is wanted for crimes against humanity, who moved priests who molested children.

[1037] The former Pope, the Ratzinger guy, moved priests that molested children to new places where they can molest children, where they molested thousands.

[1038] Like, there's, they don't, there was at one point in time one priest that he moved that molested a hundred deaf kids.

[1039] Yeah.

[1040] I mean, this is horrible, evil shit.

[1041] That guy's on Twitter.

[1042] So, just explain to me why that makes any fucking sense at all.

[1043] Look, look around at what is actually on Twitter and who's allowed to talk on Twitter.

[1044] And you find yourself in a very weird situation where you're trying to justify this.

[1045] Yeah.

[1046] Yeah.

[1047] And so there's a bias with that as well.

[1048] The bias has a name.

[1049] It's called repressive tolerance.

[1050] Repressive tolerance is the name of an essay from a Marxist in the 60s.

[1051] Herbert Marcusa was the guy's name.

[1052] Most influential guy in the 60s in the Marxist seem, probably.

[1053] His book from 1964 the year before the essay was called One Dimensional Man, sold 300 ,000 copies.

[1054] So that's in the 60s, right?

[1055] It's pretty big time.

[1056] And he writes this essay in 65 called Repressive Tolerance.

[1057] And he says, And I shit you not.

[1058] I mean, we could pull up the quote.

[1059] It says that repressive tolerance means, or actually calls it liberating tolerance.

[1060] Liberating tolerance means tolerating movements from the left and being intolerant against movements from the right.

[1061] And so the whole tilted playing field is visible there.

[1062] And his justification, he says, is that we could have stopped World War II.

[1063] We could have stopped Auschwitz if we would have withdrawn democratic tolerance.

[1064] That's his words from Hitler.

[1065] when he was making the speeches.

[1066] And he says, so this only, this is censorship.

[1067] He says, this is even pre -censorship.

[1068] He's like, it obviously can only make sense.

[1069] Under a circumstance, it's like emergency powers, right?

[1070] He says under a circumstance of a clear and present danger.

[1071] And then he literally goes on, totally mental, to say, I maintain that our society is in that situation all the time.

[1072] Thus, we always have to censor the right, pre -censor the right.

[1073] He says, we have to stop the idea from ever entering their head.

[1074] So this is where, you know, this kind of suppression of, say, Mike Lindell's views, maybe totally batshit or Alex Jones's views, we have to stop the thought from ever entering the head.

[1075] Why?

[1076] So that we can avoid Auschwitz in a World War.

[1077] I don't think it's actually how it works.

[1078] We've got this Marxist telling us that we need to tilt the playing field so that the left is always advantaged.

[1079] He even says in the essay that you have to tolerate even when they're violent because revolutionary violence is different than reactionary violence.

[1080] So violence that serves causes for the left is actually breaking up an oppressive order, whereas even intolerance from the right is maintaining an oppressive order.

[1081] So they're not on a moral level.

[1082] So we have to, even if there's violence involved, we have to tolerate whatever the left does.

[1083] And if there's, you know, even to the point of not allowing the thought to enter the head of people on the right, we have to censor and he says presensor and repress, repressive tolerance.

[1084] We have to repress the right wing.

[1085] And that's the the game that we all have to live in right now.

[1086] Yeah, sure, you know, Ratzinger's not exactly this liberal dude, right?

[1087] But there are occasionally these cases where something doesn't quite fit that mold, but for the most part, that's what we're seeing.

[1088] Like, everybody else you named is a right -wing dude.

[1089] Yeah.

[1090] And the suppression is absolutely not, I mean, you and I know right now that if we were going to go on Twitter, we pull out our phones right now, we're going to get on Twitter, and it's like, all right, let's do a contest to see who can get banned from Twitter first.

[1091] Like, you know exactly what types of opinions are going to get you banned.

[1092] Yeah.

[1093] And they're not left -wing opinions.

[1094] Right.

[1095] Right.

[1096] You could come out and say, like, the most wack.

[1097] Like, those videos, you could say the most wacky stuff like, I'm going to groom children or whatever.

[1098] And you're probably going to be okay.

[1099] You'll be okay.

[1100] As long as you couch it in theory or something first.

[1101] So you sound intelligent and whatever.

[1102] Mine are attracted persons.

[1103] Minor attracted persons.

[1104] Yeah.

[1105] Those accounts are all still there.

[1106] They're literally groomers.

[1107] Like, and they're bringing those books like with literal depictions of graphic sex.

[1108] acts into schools and no is that real because is that something that they're actually bringing into school or is that something like what is that that's yes it's real and not only are they're not they're not even just bringing into schools they're doing it in an underhanded way because a lot of people have forgotten this but the state turns out does not have free speech citizens have free speech so it's already this is long government precedent it's obvious first amendment law The state, like the teachers, the curriculum, can't do – they can't just say anything.

[1109] Free speech is not a defense available to them if they're saying something that's like unprofessional or out of their job description or whatever, or bringing pornography into the – even if it's fairly soft pornography into the classroom.

[1110] But the library works differently.

[1111] And so they're actually bringing it in through the library.

[1112] So these aren't like books like the teacher necessarily is reading.

[1113] through in class.

[1114] They're available in the library and they can be, you know, kids will be told the books are in the library.

[1115] And they do.

[1116] They depict this one.

[1117] It's called genderqueer.

[1118] I mean, this is like crazy.

[1119] I got in trouble on YouTube for even saying what's in this book.

[1120] But I've seen the picture from the book.

[1121] It's actually, it shows, you know, a appears to be some kind of lesbian type relationship or maybe it's non -binary.

[1122] And there's a strap -on dildo on a minor and another one performing oral sex on the strap on dildo.

[1123] A minor?

[1124] They're children.

[1125] There's a child with a strap on and another child performing oral, okay.

[1126] And this is a book that's in the library?

[1127] Yeah, there's another one I saw yesterday, and I apologize because I don't know what the title of it is because I only just saw it where it actually shows people going down on each other like convalingous.

[1128] And this isn't like you want to make a graphic novel of that.

[1129] Publish it like for adults, right.

[1130] For adults.

[1131] Is this available online?

[1132] Like, can I see these images?

[1133] Yeah, I bet you can.

[1134] Let me take my pants off.

[1135] No. Just kidding.

[1136] Look it up.

[1137] Gender queer.

[1138] Terrible joke.

[1139] Gender queer.

[1140] Show me this online.

[1141] This is scandalous.

[1142] What to look up so I don't, because if I just type, I type those words, then you end up on the wrong websites.

[1143] Yeah, no, gender queer.

[1144] You end up in a bad list.

[1145] Gender queer schools books.

[1146] That's what I would type in.

[1147] Our school's book.

[1148] Why don't you go to duck, duck go.

[1149] Stop using Google.

[1150] Keep fucking you.

[1151] Yeah.

[1152] All right.

[1153] For this one, I will.

[1154] Google gives you bad info.

[1155] Have you ever done the side -by -side?

[1156] It's nuts sometimes.

[1157] It's wild.

[1158] It's really wild sometimes.

[1159] Mass formation psychosis is a good example that.

[1160] It is.

[1161] If you looked.

[1162] Like when they did the thing, like right after your show.

[1163] And they were like, we're still updating the quality of our search results or something like that for like a day.

[1164] And then it's like not there.

[1165] Well, what was there was mocking Robert Malone.

[1166] That's right.

[1167] Critiques of Robert Malone.

[1168] Wasn't there like some poor guy's video?

[1169] Like, and he got like totally bombed or whatever because it like prioritized just some random video of some kid saying like it doesn't exist or whatever?

[1170] I do not know.

[1171] But I do know that when you looked at mass formation psychosis and duct.

[1172] duck go you got all the relative information all the stuff rather information yeah yeah yeah it's shocking i do that all the time whenever there's a any kind of a weird controversial story i immediately go to duck duck oh i don't fuck with google i know this is again it's just another example i'm talking about if you're just it's curated is this it uh that's the right colors this is all cartoon stuff it's all it's a graphic novel it's not okay so there's blood all over that kid's legs it's a boy had his period oh the boy had his period and so okay so the boys on a date with a girl and he has this period what's happening it's just there's it gets i was looking for the pictures like he said and i didn't see them when i quickly scrolled through these are other pictures that are in the book just so these are have you ever shaved your pubic hair they're holding hands nope that's so brave yeah right there brave i thought that's the picture i'm talking about right there right there whoa okay so that is supposedly a strap on that looks like a penis like how do we know that oh there go so that okay that is so insane so this but I can't feel anything this was much hotter when it was only my imagination that's why can't you feel anything because it's a rubber dick let's try something else of course heart so this is they're literally showing in a book that's in a library a kid sucking on a rubber dick that's strapped onto this and the article when I was Googling for it it said they got pulled from the libraries though too you and there's this huge fight to get it put back in everywhere and a lot of schools are standing up saying no we're going to keep this because we have to protect LGBT kids etc like if you wanted to make this and sell it to people over 18 that makes sense yeah why not of course like why not but if you want to put this in libraries school libraries yeah and so it seems like So we wheel back to not just queer theory, but all these critical theories, right, critical race theory, whatever, and they actually openly say, and I mentioned that paper by Hannah Dyer earlier, they openly say that one of the targets that they have is childhood innocence.

[1173] They say childhood innocence is a narrative that's created by people who have privilege and advantage.

[1174] Like, you're a rich white guy or whatever, so your kids can grow up innocent.

[1175] But if you're a, you know, queer kid or if you're a, you know, a black kid, in the city or whatever.

[1176] You can't grow up innocent.

[1177] You can't grow up racially innocent.

[1178] So they literally say that their target is to unmake childhood innocence.

[1179] So what do they do?

[1180] They expose them to adult sexual themes.

[1181] They expose them in pre -K even to like racism themes.

[1182] And a lot of parents, of course, are like, I don't think that's appropriate.

[1183] And what is the, why, what's the, what are they trying to accomplish with the goal of eliminating childhood innocence?

[1184] Well, depends on who's doing it.

[1185] Those minor attracted persons, of course, they might have their own if we will, minor attractive pedophiles, would have their own agenda, right?

[1186] Groomers.

[1187] They're groomers.

[1188] And if there is no childhood innocence, then the childhood doesn't have innocence, and we can even do away with maybe age -y consent laws or we can, da -da -da.

[1189] So there's that whole sick side of it.

[1190] But from the Marxist perspective, having studied the history of Marxism to the 20th century, I'm telling you this guy, George Lukach in Hungary, laid this plan out.

[1191] Because if you get these kids, like, you break down their innocence sexually, especially, what you can do is then they're going to go home and they're going to tell their parents that there's some like lithromantic, you know, demisexual, you know, tree self gender, some, you know, pronouns tree, tree self or something.

[1192] And their parents are going to be like, what, you know, and they're going to be like, mom, you just don't understand, you know.

[1193] So you separate the younger generation from the older generations.

[1194] You get them to break away and think that they're old fogies, that they're repressive, you don't want me to be my true self, etc. et cetera.

[1195] The goal is actually to destabilize the kid's identity so that they're groomable.

[1196] That's identity without an essence in queer theory.

[1197] And then they're groomable.

[1198] Then you groom them into the stuff.

[1199] And then they look at their parents' culture.

[1200] They look at their parents themselves.

[1201] They look at their parents' generation.

[1202] They look at the parents' religion.

[1203] And they say, that doesn't represent me. We need something completely different.

[1204] So it's to just like in Mao's cultural revolution.

[1205] And I mean that much more literally than you might suspect.

[1206] It's to cut the tie between the continuity of culture up to that point, including the family, and to start a whole new culture afterwards.

[1207] And Pol Pot called it year zero.

[1208] I guess Klaus Schwab calls it the Great Reset.

[1209] But the goal is to separate the new generation from the traditions and views of the old generation.

[1210] For Mao, it was to destroy the so -called four olds, old culture, old habits, old customs, and old ways of thinking, Sergio and Mandarin.

[1211] And these kids would get like hopped up on this crap, came the Red Guard and like would go into temples and like rip down all the statuary and tear things down and destroy all the old all the old kung fu masters got their asses beat by mobs to get rid of like old Chinese culture because it's embarrassing or whatever you know there's all Chinese medicine of course and you can say well that stuff was bullshit they probably need it but doesn't matter there's like destroy the old culture and they would go home and they eventually got to where they're beating their parents or beating their teachers that were considered revolutionaries or sorry reactionaries instead of being in favor of the Chinese cultural revolution.

[1212] And Mao had a whole program he used in schools.

[1213] And I see something so similar to that in our schools now that I'm freaking out.

[1214] And what he did was he separated.

[1215] Listen to this.

[1216] You'll see it immediately.

[1217] He created 10 classes of people.

[1218] Five of them were black, were labeled black classes.

[1219] They're bad.

[1220] And five of them because communism are red and they're good.

[1221] And I can't remember them all off top in my head but like the black classes were like landlord or child of landlord right um uh what else would you have that were yeah landlords um counter revolutionaries bad influences was one of the the so like that's us because we're spreading you know more bad influences and so we had these categories uh people who had lots of money basically people who are capitalists especially landlords and so those people are bad.

[1222] And if you're like the son of one of those people or connected to one of those people, they're going to tell you at school, you're like the worst kind of person.

[1223] Your dad's a landlord.

[1224] Your family does this.

[1225] You guys are landholders.

[1226] Or Rich farmer was one of them.

[1227] Rich farmer.

[1228] It was one of them.

[1229] And then they give you these red identities.

[1230] Well, you can be a revolutionary.

[1231] You know, you can peasant classes, day laborers, that's one or two of the red classes because it's communism.

[1232] But then, you know, you can become a revolutionary.

[1233] You can join the red guard.

[1234] You can take up these, you know, you can be a good communist.

[1235] And now we'll call you, we'll give you like a, you know, red jacket or whatever, a red feather, I don't know, something.

[1236] And you're like one of the cool kids, whereas we're going to constantly tell you how bad you are over here.

[1237] Now, take out those classes like, you know, landowner or whatever and switch it out, white, straight, male, thin, fit, attractive, conventionally attractive, whatever, right?

[1238] There's your black classes.

[1239] So you start telling all these kids, for example, well, it's critical race theory stuff, or like I have this here, race Marxism, you start showing them, you start telling them that they are part of the racist superstructure of society, basically, that they're part of the systemic racism problem.

[1240] And so their whole identity, generational, like your parents are white, you didn't do it, it's not your fault, but you have all this privilege, blah, blah, blah.

[1241] You have these kids who are like, well, how can I have a positive identity?

[1242] What do those look like?

[1243] Well, you could be black, or some of the racial minority, you could be queer.

[1244] And all of a sudden you have a pathway, a funnel into a positive identity, not gay, because that's not enough.

[1245] You have to actually be queer.

[1246] Like, it's not meant to be a stable.

[1247] Like, oh, well, I'm a guy who likes guys.

[1248] At the end, no, I was born this way.

[1249] No, queer theorists don't get on with it.

[1250] They didn't support gay marriage.

[1251] The queer theorists don't like any of that stuff.

[1252] They don't want to normalize anything.

[1253] Well, what is queer then?

[1254] Queer is an identity without an essence.

[1255] It's a constantly fluid identity.

[1256] It can be whatever you want, as long as it's political.

[1257] actively active against anything that's considered normal or normative.

[1258] So you can be queer and have a heterosexual relationship?

[1259] I mean, if you wanted to yell about things the right way, but mostly you're going to have to adopt something, one of these like made up genders, sexual orientations.

[1260] Yeah.

[1261] They even have romantic orientations, like who you're romantically attracted to instead of sexually attracted.

[1262] They're obsessives.

[1263] We've said that word earlier.

[1264] Yeah.

[1265] But you give people a pathway, and where do you see the vast majority of these people?

[1266] young people transitioning and seeking non -binary and bisexual and whatever else young girls who are the most social status concerned and white man is probably not going to get anything anyway and so these young white girls are all becoming some kind of weird gender thing why because they're getting constantly barraged by critical race theory that says white is bad white is complicit in racism you're a racist you can become an ally that's that's a red identity ally racial racial ally But you also have these pathways to where you get social status, and it's not enough that you're going to say, oh, I'm bi or I'm pansexual or I'm demisexual or I'm whatever.

[1267] It's not enough to do that.

[1268] You now have to politically be active in that regard or you're not authentically that.

[1269] That's where we heard so many people, Iona Presley most famously, you know, she's, I put on Twitter the other day, Iona Presley, and I couldn't remember where she's from.

[1270] So I put, you know, it's always like D and then like the state, like DMI, if it's from like Michigan or whatever, or D Michigan, I put D. Hell because I don't remember where she's from.

[1271] But Iiana Presley came out and had this speech during the St. Floyd riots.

[1272] And she was like, we don't need any more black faces who don't want to be black voices.

[1273] We don't need any more brown faces who don't want to be brown voices.

[1274] What does that mean?

[1275] It means you have to be politically active.

[1276] Nicole Hannah -Jones from the New York Times, the 1619 project said the same thing.

[1277] There's a difference between being racially black and politically black.

[1278] So then in your former home state of California, or not home state, I guess, but, you know, resident state of California, Larry Elder runs for governor, was the L .A. Times run, black face of white supremacy.

[1279] Because he's not politically black.

[1280] So you have to be politically active.

[1281] You have to be a revolutionary in that ideal.

[1282] It's exact same thing.

[1283] But he wasn't politically black.

[1284] He wasn't politically left.

[1285] Well, that's what it really means.

[1286] Right.

[1287] He's from Compton.

[1288] He wasn't, he's not a Marxist.

[1289] Right.

[1290] You only count if you're acting out one of these identity -based Marxist.

[1291] political views, whether that's, you can't just be a black kid.

[1292] You have to be a politically black kid.

[1293] You have to spout critical race theory.

[1294] They say that black voices thing.

[1295] One of the pillars of critical race theory is called a unique voice of color.

[1296] They actually believe that you are morally determined, structurally determined, they call it, but it means morally determined.

[1297] If you happen to be black and you live in a white supremacist society as they define it, then your character is shaped.

[1298] So we listen to Martin Luther King, you know, that's this week.

[1299] His birthday was just the other day.

[1300] We listened to Martin Luther King when we say, you know, contents of character, not color of skin.

[1301] But according to the critical race theory view, your content of your character is determined by the color of your skin, so that doesn't work.

[1302] And you have to take on the politics that is being a critical race theory advocate or whatever for your blackness to count.

[1303] Where the fuck does all this go?

[1304] This is what's so disturbing about it.

[1305] It seems like it's uprooting civil discourse in this country and between that and whatever is going on politically between the left and the right in terms of like the people that want to make sure that Trump never gets in office again and make sure that everyone whose right wing is demonized and discussed as the worst aspects of society like when leaving one choice and the only like if you're an intellectual if you're a person went to college if you're a person who is a white collar person like you're not allowed to be anything other than left wing yeah exactly if you want to be respected and taken seriously like where does this go where i mean you can look at what happened with the cultural revolution because we're playing out the exact same logic and i mean the chinese cultural revolution not the american one that we're in the middle of right now um the logic is the same so it goes to a situation in which we don't have a mousadon character that's going to you know lead this and use the chaos that it creates to to seize an iron grip of communist power.

[1306] What we have instead are people like this Klaus Schwab introducing Xi Jinping and saying, you know, I, you know, what does he say?

[1307] I echo everything that you just said, or that you said in 2017.

[1308] I don't want to misquote him.

[1309] But then you have him, she talking about how we have the many boats and we're all going to be one boat now, right?

[1310] So what you actually end up having is it's not old school communism.

[1311] Communism has evolved.

[1312] It's like we're not going to have like Stalin, like sending people to Siberia with this.

[1313] What you're going to have is this new thing where the corporate, those ESG scores are going to come down ultimately to control people at the level of social credit for themselves.

[1314] Like if you want to be able to bank, if you want to be able to go to the grocery store maybe, if you want to go like in Australia more than five kilometers from your house, you have to have a justified reason.

[1315] That was a whole thing in their COVID.

[1316] Like whatever the state of affairs there is, that's true.

[1317] Like they, during their hard lockdown.

[1318] You couldn't be a certain distance away from your house.

[1319] Well, they can track you on your phone.

[1320] You know, we've got a GPS in it if they needed to, and especially if we go all the way into like these digital ID apps or whatever.

[1321] And so the goal is to install something that they have total social control run by the goons who think that this is a good idea so that we can become this one, it's not communism.

[1322] It's a mixture of communism and fascism into one thing.

[1323] What was the one thing that they were recently talking about, about label, people that are dissenting against government opinions, people that are rabble -rousers.

[1324] DVEEs.

[1325] Domestic violent extremists.

[1326] Yeah.

[1327] We can say that in terms of repressive tolerance.

[1328] How did they define it?

[1329] Because they were defining it in a very weird way.

[1330] Yeah, we'd have to pull it up.

[1331] It's really vague.

[1332] It's weirdly vague.

[1333] It's disturbingly vague.

[1334] Because the way they were describing it, you could easily say us.

[1335] Like, people who are podcasters.

[1336] People who, what was the terms that they used?

[1337] They used a term.

[1338] I was like, wow, that's not very clear.

[1339] It's really vague and, you know, concerning.

[1340] Yeah.

[1341] Very concerning.

[1342] What did they say?

[1343] They didn't say misinformation.

[1344] They said, like, someone who, it was against the government.

[1345] It was like government authority or something like that.

[1346] Yeah, someone who has.

[1347] Questioning the government authority.

[1348] And that's maybe not exact quote.

[1349] Something along those lines.

[1350] But it's close to it.

[1351] And who released this?

[1352] Like, where was this from?

[1353] It was from like the DOJ.

[1354] That's crazy.

[1355] See, the problem with this kind of shit folks is they don't even give it back to you.

[1356] No. This is like when COVID's over and it's endemic and it becomes like the seasonal flu, you don't get those rights back.

[1357] No, you're going to have to, and I don't mean this like by violence.

[1358] It's from the FBI's paper I downloaded.

[1359] Okay.

[1360] The FBI and the DHS are both charged.

[1361] with preventing terrorist attacks in the United States, including those conducted by domestic violent extremists.

[1362] And that three is right here.

[1363] The goal drives the FBI's mission to proactively lead law enforcement and domestic intelligence efforts to defeat terrorist attacks against U .S. citizens and U .S. interests through an integrated strategy to detect, penetrate.

[1364] And then how are they describing it?

[1365] This thing here.

[1366] Okay, here it is.

[1367] The FBI and DHS define a domestic violence.

[1368] extremists as an individual based and operating primarily within the United States or its territories without direction or inspiration from a foreign terrorist group or other foreign power who seeks to further political or social goals wholly or in part through unlawful acts of force or violence.

[1369] The mere advocacy of political or social positions, political activism, Use of strong rhetoric.

[1370] Yeah.

[1371] Or generalized philosophic embrace of violent tactics may constitute extremism.

[1372] May not constitute.

[1373] Excuse me. My microphones are the way with that.

[1374] And may be constitutionally protected.

[1375] Okay.

[1376] What does that mean, though?

[1377] So that last part is not as bad as it sounds.

[1378] No, it doesn't sound bad at all because this isn't.

[1379] I mean, I saw this graphic thing that had very vague words on it, but this last part is very clear that they're saying, you know, you may have constitutionally protected free speech.

[1380] And so mere advocacy might not, of these things, may not be sufficient to qualify you as an extremist.

[1381] Right.

[1382] The scary part is the word may, of course, because that's a squishy word.

[1383] Right.

[1384] May not constitute extremism doesn't make me feel very happy.

[1385] Keep going.

[1386] Scroll down.

[1387] What does it say?

[1388] disrupt and dismantle criminal DT plots and the FBI and DHS mission to provide strategic analysis of the DVEE landscape.

[1389] I hate when they use those little acronyms.

[1390] Oh, I know.

[1391] It makes it hard to keep up with.

[1392] DT, it's not an acronym, right?

[1393] It's an acronym if you say it, like a dv.

[1394] I assume that, yeah, duv.

[1395] What's the difference?

[1396] Is it an acronym is one where you...

[1397] No, it's an acronym.

[1398] Is that, what's the one when you say the...

[1399] Makes it a word, like NASA.

[1400] Right.

[1401] is a different word God damn I fucking hate that we'll have to look that up too okay the DT for the FBI's purpose is referenced in the US code as defined as activities involving acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws the United States or any other state or any state appearing to be intended to intimidate or coerce civilian population.

[1402] Here's one.

[1403] Influence the policy of government by intimidation, coercion, or effect conduct of government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping, and occurring primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

[1404] Well, all that makes sense.

[1405] Yeah, that all makes sense.

[1406] Except that's like, isn't that what they did with the governor Michigan?

[1407] They kidnapped?

[1408] Well, that's the thing.

[1409] Yeah.

[1410] That was going to bring that up to you about January 6th, like, what do you think they were trying to do?

[1411] And why would they're, why were they trying to do that?

[1412] If, who are the they that you're?

[1413] FBI.

[1414] So if the FBI is involved, or the feds, if they are involved, and that's why that woman was not able to answer those questions to Ted Cruz and said, I can't answer that, I can't answer that, and things that you should be able to answer, like, were you involved in citing violence?

[1415] Were you involved in violent activities?

[1416] Yeah.

[1417] So what do you think they were trying to do, and why were they trying to do that?

[1418] Do you think it's because it's no secret that Donald Trump had like a terrible relationship with the intelligence community.

[1419] Right.

[1420] He disparaged them, dismissed them, called them incompetent, fired Comey, the whole deal, right?

[1421] And they were out to get him, supposedly, right?

[1422] Do you think that what they were trying to do by inciting like that Epps guys and we need to go in there?

[1423] I might get arrested for saying this.

[1424] Yeah.

[1425] We need to go into the Capitol.

[1426] And everyone's like, who's fucking Fed?

[1427] Yeah.

[1428] He is, after you guys noticed that I saw this news came out, that he is going to be doing an interview with the FBI to transcribe what he was doing there that day, I guess.

[1429] Informally.

[1430] He met informally, Jamie?

[1431] No, he did already.

[1432] He's going to meet formally now.

[1433] Look at this.

[1434] Figure at the center of pro -Trump, January 6th theories, to speak with select committee on Friday, Ray Epps met informally with the panel in November and told them he had no relationship with the FBI.

[1435] No, he's with the NSA.

[1436] He's what the fuck he's with.

[1437] He's with somebody.

[1438] Or he's a nut.

[1439] It could be he's a nut.

[1440] But if he was a nut, they would have arrested him, don't you think?

[1441] Yeah, I think so.

[1442] Because they arrested normal people.

[1443] Well, he didn't go in, though.

[1444] Did he go in?

[1445] I don't think so.

[1446] No. I think they're trying to arrest people that didn't go in, too.

[1447] I think they got it out for Alex Jones.

[1448] Yeah.

[1449] They're trying to, and Alex Jones is telling people, don't go inside, don't go in there.

[1450] Don't let him talk into it.

[1451] Yeah.

[1452] Like, there's video of Alex.

[1453] Like Mr. Falls flag, right?

[1454] On a bullhorn, telling people don't go inside there.

[1455] Of course.

[1456] But then when the cops opened up the gates and let people in, like, what is...

[1457] What do you think they were trying to accomplish?

[1458] This is my point.

[1459] So they tell you.

[1460] So they're trying, of course, they turn into like a holiday or something weird, right?

[1461] So they're trying to...

[1462] It's really important to them that this was a very significant event.

[1463] Right.

[1464] And what are they doing with it?

[1465] Well, they immediately, literally like the next day, which is oddly fast, you know, had legislation that they wanted to put to control.

[1466] domestic extremists.

[1467] Then they have this extremism stand down that they do throughout the military all year last year where they're, and, you know, they're talking to him about white supremacy and they're talking about all its leftists.

[1468] How did they put up a green zone around the capital?

[1469] Yeah.

[1470] Yeah.

[1471] They did.

[1472] And so then, and I don't know if you saw this in New York Times on January 1st.

[1473] So first of all, there's all this like kind of like Patriot Act 2 .0 looking shit coming out of this to label people who are, will say, at least further to the right.

[1474] as potential domestic terror threats or whatever to our democracy, which is its own thing.

[1475] But on January 1st, the New York Times published an article titled, Every Day is January 6th now.

[1476] Is that not like the stupidest thing you've ever heard?

[1477] But I just told you about the essay from 1965 called Repressive Tolerance.

[1478] So what does this mean?

[1479] If every day is January 6th, we always have to be aware that there's this one side that supported Trump.

[1480] Obviously, one of the things they wanted out of it, though, speaking of Trump, they wanted to make sure that Trump would never be able to hold office again.

[1481] How do we know that?

[1482] Because they kick that political football every chance they get.

[1483] They try to use something to justify that he can never hold office again.

[1484] So only their dudes can hold office.

[1485] We got you.

[1486] And then this article, though, is the idea of repressive tolerance.

[1487] It is every day is January 6th.

[1488] And what did Markuza say?

[1489] The clear and present danger is the constant state of our society.

[1490] It's the normal state of affairs.

[1491] What does that justify?

[1492] Repression of movements from the right, intolerance of movements from the left.

[1493] It's exactly what they were, if they were, if the FBI constructed the bulk of the bad stuff that went down on J6, they were trying to construct their excuse to have a political biasing of the playing field that represses rightward and opens the gate leftward even further.

[1494] And so, and to add like Department of Justice, FBI, etc. teeth to, you know, this otherwise kind of cultural movement.

[1495] So it's the kind of, again, having studied the Chinese Cultural Revolution, it's the kind of thing that I start to get really nervous about.

[1496] The idea that if you read Mao, he's always talking about counter -revolutionaries, he's always talking about conservatives and rightists, and that those people have to be suppressed, they have to be stopped.

[1497] They're a constant threat to the people's movement or to the revolution or whatever it is, however he rephrase it, is often the people's movement is how he phrases it.

[1498] And you see this, again, same kind of Maoist and Marxist maneuver to consolidate and lock up power in the, I don't even want to say the Democrats, to be honest with you.

[1499] It's not Democrats.

[1500] It's bigger than the Democrats.

[1501] It's in what often got referred to either as the deep state or the swamp or, you know, whatever, this kind of political class that wants to hold itself up above everybody else and make no mistake.

[1502] There are lots of Republicans involved as well.

[1503] The Democrats are virtually completely beholden to this ideology at this point, but there's a lot of Republicans who are in on the show as well that say the right things sometimes that are mostly ineffectual.

[1504] And so there's this thing that some people call it, I call it on Twitter the regime with a capital R that wants to create conditions under which it can persecute or at least intimidate its political enemies, including with this Department of Justice letter.

[1505] not connected to January 6th for parents showing up to school boards, pissed off that there's books in the school library, which we already saw what's in those books in the school library, they want to create the ability to repressively, to repress those people so they can create the conditions of repressive tolerance, which is a, it's basically like taking the whole political football field and tilting it to the left, so everything naturally runs that way, and it's really hard to go rightward on anything.

[1506] So that's, I mean, I seriously, think that that's what the point was.

[1507] That's why you have guys like apps, whatever he's doing, like telling guys, make this worse than it is, and we're going to use it.

[1508] I remember on January 6th, 20, was it, 21, I guess, I was tweeting.

[1509] I was like, you do not know what's happening at the Capitol.

[1510] And I wasn't doing some, like, false flag conspiracy thing.

[1511] I was like, you just don't have enough information.

[1512] Like, stop jumping to conclusions, like, hold up, wait.

[1513] And, like, it's just media spin.

[1514] I wasn't doing some like, you know, Alex Jones's false flag thing.

[1515] I was, like, tweeting that.

[1516] And I'm watching how people are reacting.

[1517] And then if you follow the thread where I have that, I even say, you know, this is like the biggest gift in the world to the potential regime that wants to clamp down on its enemies, that wants to censor people who might be encouraging insurrection in the future, who might be giving people information that makes them, you know, doubt the authority of the CDC or the government or, you know, whatever it happens to be, or the school board or the Department of Education or whoever.

[1518] And it just makes it that much easier for whatever agendas that they might have, which clearly they have some, build back better is the name of one of the agendas that they're pushing.

[1519] It makes it that much easier for them to try to slide that stuff through if you can't criticize it to whatever reason they have.

[1520] Like, okay, so with COVID, we had a lot of different paths.

[1521] So this thing gets out in the world.

[1522] Let's take the most dumbass naive view.

[1523] Like, oh, it just escaped, no bad actors.

[1524] It was a natural thing they were studied.

[1525] Like totally stupid and naive.

[1526] It comes out.

[1527] It's in the world at some point, say, beginning of 2020.

[1528] We have a million different paths we can follow.

[1529] We can start sending everybody vitamin D and Ivermectin like Mexico just did, right?

[1530] Like they're sending people packets.

[1531] If you get sick, this is what you do.

[1532] There are lots of different paths we could have taken.

[1533] We could have done a lot of different.

[1534] Instead, we all locked down.

[1535] We all do these other things.

[1536] And in fact, we have this book come out in June by Klaus saying we're doing the Great Reset using COVID -19 as the pretext.

[1537] Who did he write that book for?

[1538] Probably.

[1539] I mean, it's really badly written, so I'm assuming it's for his little Davos, like, club members, because it's really it's...

[1540] Is it published with a legitimate publisher, or is it self -published?

[1541] It's a good question.

[1542] I don't know.

[1543] I read the book, but I didn't look at that page.

[1544] That's a good question.

[1545] It's kind of a joke of a book.

[1546] It's just like a bunch of, like, corporate jargon words.

[1547] Even I'm, like, trained to see -through jargon, and it's like, it's just a bunch of corporate gobbledygook.

[1548] So when it comes to false flags, and it comes to some orchestrated agent provocateur tactics, like when Governor Whitmer, when they were planning to kidnap her, how many different FBI agents were involved in that?

[1549] It was like six or something, right?

[1550] Something crazy.

[1551] It was more than half of the people in the kidnap.

[1552] That's like that funny Spider -Man meme.

[1553] Yeah.

[1554] It was like feds pointing at each other.

[1555] You remember they had the thing over the summer.

[1556] that had something to do, like, there's supposed to be this conservative thing about the J6, like, free the prisoners or something, and, like, nobody showed up.

[1557] And then, like, there's that famous picture of the feds all standing there and their, like, sunglasses and whatever.

[1558] And it's like, you read the story of what happened there.

[1559] And the only person who got arrested at that event, whatever it was, was a Fed by another Fed. And it's like, oh, my God, you guys.

[1560] It's funny.

[1561] It's funny, but it's like, what are they trying to do and why is it allowed?

[1562] This is what Kennedy talked about when he talked about, like, secret society.

[1563] Yeah.

[1564] Well, it's allowed because there's no accountability.

[1565] And anybody who calls for accountability can be labeled under, like with a serious call for it, can be labeled under somebody who's a threat to democracy.

[1566] They can be labeled under somebody who's, you know, potential insurrectionist or instigating an insurrection or inciting.

[1567] But the federal officers that are involved in this.

[1568] What do you think they think they're doing?

[1569] I think the majority of them think they're just doing their job.

[1570] Right.

[1571] But do they know what the end game is?

[1572] Like, what do they think their job is?

[1573] I mean, if you were pretending.

[1574] I don't know how you do that.

[1575] I mean, if you're pretending to be an insurrectionist and you're, you know, plotting some, you know, kidnapping of a governor or whatever you're trying to do, like, what the fuck?

[1576] So there is an answer to that.

[1577] And, you know, what it is is they think that some dude, say in whatever Michigan is this lunatic who wants to kidnap the governor.

[1578] But he's not going to act until he gets kind of like ginned up, right?

[1579] And so they want to just kind of, A, B, in the vicinity so that if something goes down, they can interact or intervene immediately.

[1580] And B, like, give them that little extra push over the edge.

[1581] Right.

[1582] Make them active.

[1583] Yeah.

[1584] So, but, like, the law enforcement should not be doing that.

[1585] No. Shouldn't be encouraging crime.

[1586] Yeah.

[1587] And so why on earth?

[1588] I mean, maybe they just think that they're like hot shit or something.

[1589] I don't know.

[1590] Is that like a firefighter starting fires thing?

[1591] It could be.

[1592] I know a dude who did that.

[1593] Oh, I didn't know him.

[1594] He was a guy in my town where I grew up in his little kid.

[1595] Like, there was literally a crazy guy that did that there.

[1596] It's more common than it should be, but it does happen.

[1597] And this has happened before in terms of, like, people that were supposedly informants, people that were working with the FBI that wound up doing something, like the Boston bombers.

[1598] Yeah.

[1599] Weren't the Boston bombers?

[1600] Some, they were informants?

[1601] Yeah, something like that.

[1602] Something like that.

[1603] And then who's on the scene?

[1604] I don't know if you ever saw this.

[1605] The one that they interviewed, the medical professional.

[1606] in Boston.

[1607] Yes.

[1608] Lianna Winn.

[1609] Yes.

[1610] Who's like I call her mini mouse.

[1611] Well, mouse, yeah.

[1612] And she was in front of a green screen, wasn't she?

[1613] Something like that.

[1614] And she said the weird.

[1615] So it's like super fake.

[1616] So it's like super fake.

[1617] She's like, and then it's like camera turn on and her face turns on.

[1618] And then she says this thing.

[1619] And it's like, oh yeah, there was way less carnage and damage than we were expecting.

[1620] It's like, then you were expecting.

[1621] Like, what are you talking about?

[1622] But also if you do hear a bomb went off, you expect a lot of carnage.

[1623] There's, there's ambiguity there.

[1624] She's an odd duck.

[1625] She's weird.

[1626] Well, what's weird, too, is that she's the one who's now the message of CNN that masks don't work.

[1627] Like, she's now cloth masks are nothing more than facial decorations.

[1628] And everyone's like, wait, what?

[1629] Yeah.

[1630] The fuck did she just say?

[1631] Well, you know what that means?

[1632] They're not going to stop Omicron or Delta.

[1633] Yeah, P .S, if they're facial decorations, you know what they are?

[1634] What?

[1635] Speech.

[1636] Which means First Amendment, they can't compel you to wear a facial decoration.

[1637] Have you ever seen the video where they're discussing this?

[1638] This is pre -pandemic.

[1639] I'm going to send this to you, Jamie, because it's pretty interesting.

[1640] They were discussing the mask thing that was going on during the 1918 pandemic.

[1641] And they were talking about the ineffectiveness of mass. It's really kind of wild when you watch it because it's one of those things where you see it.

[1642] And you're like, holy shit, this is kind of, I mean, it's essentially.

[1643] the same thing that we're dealing with now but this was you know a hundred fucking years ago let me try to find it here somebody sent it to me it's going to take a few minutes i got by the way while you look i got dinged off of uh facebook or something at one point all i did was i took a video of fouchy saying don't wear a mask from the very beginning of the pandemic and i put it on there and all the only words were fouchy and then whatever month it was like march 20 or april 2020 that was the only thing I said with it and they they locked me out for and put a strike on my account for sharing misinformation it was literally just a video of Fauci saying it and I just put the time like I was just saying this is what the man said at the time so I had that very same video yeah well I put it up on was it from like six minutes or something yeah well he's like the facial mass they're not going to work you're going to smudge some you're going to yeah yeah They're not enough to stop a virus.

[1644] Something about nanometers.

[1645] Yeah, he's an odd cat.

[1646] You know, I'm in the middle of this thing that's talking about his response to the AIDS epidemic.

[1647] Yeah, right.

[1648] The way he handled that, which is very similar in the fact that they suppressed alternative treatments and early treatment options in favor of AZT.

[1649] And they stopped all other studies.

[1650] in favor of AZT, and it turns out that AZT was actually killing people even quicker.

[1651] And that's the parallel to Remdesivir or whatever it's called.

[1652] Yes.

[1653] Yeah, it's like super shady.

[1654] Yeah, I'm trying to find this motherfucker.

[1655] There's so, I get so many goddamn messages.

[1656] I'm not going to find it.

[1657] See if you can find it, Jamie.

[1658] See if you can find a video of them discussing masks in 1918.

[1659] Sorry, this is very boring to everybody, but I think it's kind of important.

[1660] Here's the search if you want to...

[1661] I can take my pants off.

[1662] I don't know.

[1663] It looks like...

[1664] No!

[1665] Oh, sorry.

[1666] What did you do?

[1667] I search for it.

[1668] I don't know what it looks like.

[1669] There's a black and bite video.

[1670] Maybe that?

[1671] Of them talking about it.

[1672] Yeah, let's try that.

[1673] Variety?

[1674] Try that.

[1675] April 3rd, 2020 is the date on that.

[1676] Yeah, I don't know.

[1677] It looks like an article.

[1678] Is there a video?

[1679] No video.

[1680] I hate when I don't save things.

[1681] Yeah, no. I have too many of them.

[1682] I have too many.

[1683] Dude, it's like, I'll find it.

[1684] I'll find it later.

[1685] Yeah.

[1686] So, yeah, the thing is, though, is like, you are right.

[1687] This was all kind of played out.

[1688] They knew, you know, they've seen the papers that before COVID broke out that they knew that masks were, at best, very limited utility.

[1689] But is limited utility better than nothing.

[1690] I mean, this is my perspective on it is like, if it just stops a little bit of transmission, if it stops a little bit of the viral load, if people get less.

[1691] sick than they would have gotten if people were just openly breathing and coughing all over each other.

[1692] Is that better?

[1693] Maybe.

[1694] Because here's the thing.

[1695] And this is, I'm so, I'm actually really glad you said this because I actually wanted to bring this up if we got a chance.

[1696] The problem we're seeing was so much of this, especially with the masks and kids, is this collapsing of everything to one damn variable.

[1697] Transmission.

[1698] That's the only variable that counts now.

[1699] Like, we don't have to, we don't have to rates of pneumonia from breathing back in or facial like acne or you know eye infections from breathing their own mouth bacteria back onto their face and being trapped in that what's it doing like the what is it how many what some absurd number of billions of masks floating in the ocean yes right there's a million other things going on and if we just pay attention to one single variable does it stop transmission right we're missing like it's like it's not even like you miss the forest for the tree.

[1700] It's like you're, you're looking at like a freaking bit of moss on the bark and not even knowing what's going on there.

[1701] You can't collapse a very, you know, multi -dimensional problem that has lots of trade -offs.

[1702] There are billions of masks floating in the ocean is a fucking problem.

[1703] It is.

[1704] And it's funny because, you know, they're getting, and if we go back to the ESG thing, they're getting points on their G for good governance by forcing people to wear the masks, but they should be losing points in the environmental category, right?

[1705] But they're not because it's all like stakeholder bullshit.

[1706] They want to prioritize COVID is more important, just like all of a sudden COVID didn't matter when Black Lives Matter became more important as the S score goes up.

[1707] And you can see that this is, that's where you've got to worry about this small number of people who are largely unaccountable being able to make these kinds of decisions for people because they can make it arbitrary.

[1708] And in fact, it is arbitrary.

[1709] And in fact, it's usually not only arbitrary, but political or politicized, as we're seeing kind of tie a lot of the things we've been talking about together.

[1710] But that collapsing of one, of everything to one variable, there's a million things going on with kids and childhood development and everything.

[1711] Is it worth wearing, everybody wearing masks at the cost, the environmental outlay, the side effects of wearing masks?

[1712] Everybody's like, oh, I can't breathe in it, hypoxia.

[1713] Like, there is a bit of, like, suck it up buttercup to that.

[1714] Right.

[1715] But there's not suck it up buttercup to, like, you're breathing back in your gross mouth stuff and getting pneumonia if you're, say, six years old.

[1716] Right?

[1717] And, like, everybody that's dealt with a six -year -old knows how that works they're like little snot machines yeah i mean that's like a running commentary through all of comedy of parents comedy for all of histories that they generate snot and they're breathing that back in they're touching their face all the time because they got the mask on and it's uncomfortable they're not apparently all this stuff's coming out they're not learning to speak there's so many other variables that have to be considered and we see that in all of these things okay i found it sorry no it's cool here um i got uh i'm gonna send it to you jamie it's on YouTube sorry about that no I filled the space you did you did it very well here I'll see it I've heard I got a radio voice you do have a radio voice you should be on radio but then they would suppress you I just texted to you Jamie yeah so you know that's the question is it worth it but if you're only looking at one thing you don't know if it's worth it right you're just like oh it reduces this one thing that's bad there's like a million things that are bad but it did in some ways calm people that everyone around you that has masks on is doing the right thing mask formation psychosis but maybe but also like for folks let's listen listen to this a 50 minute video dude that's like an hour is it really yeah it's like a whole special on PBS about Spanish flu oh but I think I sent I thought it wasn't it time stamped oh that's a link to the full documentary I'm sorry that was not a good flu Yeah, I'm sorry, Jimmy.

[1718] Here, I'll send you a link to the, oh, that's what it is, because someone sent me a video.

[1719] Saved a camera roll.

[1720] Okay, here.

[1721] Sorry.

[1722] Here's the actual video.

[1723] I'll text it to you right now.

[1724] Sorry.

[1725] So here's, I send it to you.

[1726] Should get it to any second now.

[1727] Yeah, I legit think that, like, we've spent too much time caring about what makes lots of other people feel better, and we've put ourselves in a bad position as a result.

[1728] So I don't personally find it.

[1729] There's some of that for sure.

[1730] I mean, the suck -it -up buttercup thing, you know, there's some of that.

[1731] But, okay, let's play this real quick.

[1732] The epidemic was now a national crisis.

[1733] Something had to be done.

[1734] In many places, officials rushed through laws requiring people to wear masks in public.

[1735] All of America, it seemed, put on masks.

[1736] at last many thought they were safe we're seeing these images but masks didn't help they were thin and porous no serious restraint to tiny microbes it was like trying to keep out dust with chicken wire so this was obviously made before what happened there something else I sent you oh it's another text I saying the video this documentary was made obviously before the pandemic right you wouldn't make that video now no one no one would put that in a documentary they'd be like edit that out yeah it'd be totally considered misinformation right because even though it's factual I'm sure you've seen that doctor who blows vape smoke my famous one or favorite one that I've seen I have seen the smoke one my favorite one that I've seen was a dude that put on like five of them and he went out and it was like ass cold with snow everywhere and you know your breath and it's just like clouds of it all around his head as he breathes coming through the mask going out the sides and it's like five of them yeah like five masks he puts on one and breathes and it's everywhere he puts on another one and just like kind of gets worse the more he puts on if you can breathe you breathe out if you breathe in you breathe out if you breathe out air is coming out and then those tiny little aerosol part of this yeah they're going to go out with it just it's just like how much of it is being captured by the mask and is it is it enough where it justifies it the apparent answer is mostly probably not, but...

[1737] But there have been studies, supposedly.

[1738] Supposedly.

[1739] Like, they're always talking about studies have shown that mass and social distancing work.

[1740] I think social distancing works if you're like 50 feet apart.

[1741] Yeah.

[1742] I think that works.

[1743] But I mean, the six foot thing, really?

[1744] Like, you and I right now are about, what is this, how wide is this?

[1745] About five.

[1746] Five.

[1747] So, okay, so this is six feet.

[1748] Yeah.

[1749] Would you be comfortable with someone that had fucking the plague and they were this close to you breathing?

[1750] That's crazy.

[1751] In a closed room.

[1752] Yeah, like, no. That's crazy.

[1753] Absolutely not.

[1754] The fact that we were told, like, have you ever seen that guy in Germany that walks around at these protests with a pole?

[1755] With a pole?

[1756] That's a six -foot pole.

[1757] Make sure that people are apart from each other by six feet.

[1758] It's measuring.

[1759] It's so lame.

[1760] It's like, I want to see somebody take it like a bow staff and just like go full Jackie Chan on the guy or whatever.

[1761] It's just, well, it's one of the things where people are looking for something to comfort them.

[1762] And the mask in some ways comforts people.

[1763] See, I would put it on.

[1764] I put it on in the beginning.

[1765] of the pandemic gladly because whether it works or not, I was like, at least people know you're not an asshole.

[1766] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got that.

[1767] I did the same thing.

[1768] I kind of look back at it and kind of wish I didn't now.

[1769] I think we needed a little bit more reasonable asshole as opposed to unreasonable asshole.

[1770] The thing isn't like there's too many people who were falling in line.

[1771] You would just be attacked.

[1772] Well, I mean, I was in Tennessee, so.

[1773] Yeah.

[1774] If I had been in L .A. hanging out with you, we might have had a different story.

[1775] Because, like, Tennessee, by like April, May, we were just like, yeah, screw this.

[1776] And then our governor came on TV, he's like, we recommend you wear masks.

[1777] And we're like, recommend, huh?

[1778] Okay.

[1779] You know, we're done.

[1780] See, England today dropped everything.

[1781] They dropped it.

[1782] Yeah.

[1783] But Boris got rid of it all because he knows he's politically screwed.

[1784] Yeah?

[1785] Well, he got caught partying while he's locking everybody down and 10 downing and all this stuff.

[1786] He's been real weird ever since all that.

[1787] Where was he partying?

[1788] In 10 Downing Street.

[1789] Like, during the height of the lockdown, like last, Christmas, not last year, but the year before, like Christmas.

[1790] I know.

[1791] Mayor of San Francisco, she got busted, and then all of since she's hard on crime now.

[1792] Yeah, right?

[1793] She's like, we got to do something about this crime.

[1794] Like, what?

[1795] What are you saying?

[1796] All of a sudden.

[1797] You locked the fucking city down.

[1798] All of a sudden.

[1799] You were responsible for a lot of that shit, the tolerance of that shit.

[1800] See, I worry, though, not only, like, we talk about mass formation psychosis or whatever, but I worry even about just the idea of giving somebody the idea that they're safe when they're not if safety is the thing you're appealing to.

[1801] Right.

[1802] Because that's a good point.

[1803] I mean, you know, martial arts, we all have the old thing.

[1804] Like, you teach somebody at Kata and then they think they know how to fight.

[1805] And then they're more confidence that they go and get their ass beat, right?

[1806] And it's, you know, it's a joke if it's some dude, you teach him like his yellow belt and he goes and gets beat up.

[1807] It's like, ha ha.

[1808] But because we're guys and we don't care about guys getting beat up.

[1809] And it's funny.

[1810] Like, dude, you try to do a jump kick, like really?

[1811] But when it's like women's self -defense.

[1812] Right.

[1813] And you teach her just enough to get confident enough to get her ass beat.

[1814] Like, that's not good.

[1815] Yeah.

[1816] And so it's part of the, it's literally part of the Dunning Kruger effect where, you know, you get overconfident and how good you are and then you make bad decisions or whatever.

[1817] That's, you know, I used to teach martial arts and I went to one of those women's self -defense courses where they would, they put someone in a giant foam outfit.

[1818] Yeah, red man's suit.

[1819] Yeah.

[1820] And then the guy would like try to attack a woman.

[1821] and then the woman would say no and she'd like punch him in the face and no and kick them in the nuts and no and everybody's like yeah yeah yeah I'm sitting there going man you are you're setting these people up to get really fucking hurt because a woman it's like especially a tiny woman yeah that some women who fuck you up that can punch really hard true story it's real some women can knock you the fuck out but a lot of them can't right and there's nothing you're going to be able to do they have like these little tiny hands There's not a damn thing you're going to be able to do.

[1822] Hold up, Joe.

[1823] Are you one of those extremists that believes that men and women are not the same?

[1824] That's what I do.

[1825] Man, woman, boy, girl, we're all the same.

[1826] You know where I saw that?

[1827] Where?

[1828] On a mural in Chinese in Beijing.

[1829] Oh, Jesus.

[1830] Well, not in a fight.

[1831] Not in a fight.

[1832] Turns out those bell curves of upper body strength don't overlap very much.

[1833] There's a hilarious article that was in, might have been like pink news or one of those things about Michael Phelps and Michael Phelps unironically saying that it's not fair if this Penn State transgender woman competes against that Michael Phelps ironically says it's not an even playing field unironically because it's not an even playing field because he's gifted like that's the idea it's like that they're making a parallel between Michael Phelps being physically gifted, because he is physically gifted.

[1834] A bit of a, yeah, a non -a -a -physical freak.

[1835] But, you know, so is LeBron James.

[1836] Yeah, right?

[1837] Exactly.

[1838] Also, basically in any sport at this point, all the hyper.

[1839] Yeah, hyper athletes.

[1840] Yeah.

[1841] But you can't compare that to a transgender woman competing against females that's like beating people by 38 seconds.

[1842] Yeah, it was like the entire length of the pool or something.

[1843] Like something so absurd.

[1844] It's so absurd.

[1845] Did you see that she got beat by another transgender?

[1846] I did.

[1847] I did.

[1848] I laughed in my heart.

[1849] It's happening.

[1850] What is this?

[1851] Well, then I also, it's like that, you know, you laugh and then you cry.

[1852] Well, women should be crying.

[1853] Women's sports are getting destroyed by transgender women in that regard.

[1854] Because social constructivism doesn't have any breaks is the problem.

[1855] It turns out all that gender construct shit, it doesn't have any breaks.

[1856] Here it says none of Tom.

[1857] Thomas's teammates have spoken on the record about their opinion on the matter.

[1858] Of course, they don't want to get attacked, though some have chosen to do some anonymously devise their concern.

[1859] She compares herself to Jackie Robinson.

[1860] She said this is like the Jackie Roberts that of transports.

[1861] One of Thomas's teammates told the Washington Examiner last week, she laughs about it and mocks the situation instead of caring or showing that she cares about what she's doing or what she's doing to her teammates.

[1862] She's not sympathetic or empathetic at all because she's acting like a guy.

[1863] Yeah, and a narcissistic guy at that.

[1864] No. Can you imagine comparing yourself to Jackie Robinson?

[1865] Scroll up, though, so you can see the headline because it's kind of crazy.

[1866] Michael felt.

[1867] No, this is, that's great that he said that because it does need to be a level playing field.

[1868] Biological females should be competing against biological females, and you are going to have outliers.

[1869] Yeah, of course.

[1870] When you have biological females, you're going to have, like, super athletes that are going to dominate.

[1871] The Michael Jordans of female athletes.

[1872] Yeah, of course.

[1873] That is not what I was talking about What I was talking about was, I'll find it here What they were saying is that He's silly for saying that Yeah, of course they are He doesn't understand You know, anything or whatever Yeah, it's in pink news It says Here I'll send you this, Jamie, you can see it You got it?

[1874] Here, I just sent you the image of it It's just like there's a difference kids there's a difference there's a big difference between an outlier who's also biologically male and then and a person who is in a completely different category there's a reason why we separate male sports versus female sports even like even just within each then we separate by weight and we separate by in some sports depending not like the top top but you know by years of experience you know we used to sport fight some brown belt class yeah yeah and certainly weight classes yeah and certainly weight classes because it turns out, it matters.

[1875] Oh, fuck, man, it matters a lot.

[1876] Yeah, whenever it says, no, technique matters.

[1877] Okay, well, how about you get a Gordon Ryan who's also giant and with great technique?

[1878] Yeah, exactly.

[1879] Here, here it is.

[1880] I can't make it look better.

[1881] Oh, sorry.

[1882] Michael Forbes, like, without a hint of irony, Michael Phelps says sports should be even playing field.

[1883] Without a hint of irony.

[1884] Yeah, so they're making fun of him.

[1885] Yeah, he's so silly.

[1886] He's so silly.

[1887] He's so dumb.

[1888] He's so dumb.

[1889] Embrace the future.

[1890] Yeah.

[1891] And then probably everyone's a Fed. Yeah, right?

[1892] They're all feds, I mean, transgender feds.

[1893] It's like these guys that are the ones that are showing up at that rally.

[1894] And then there was only feds showing up wearing glasses.

[1895] Like, do they think, like, what did I sign up for?

[1896] Or do they just do their job?

[1897] You know the ones that I wondered about were the ones who were like the fake Tiki Torch guys outside of Yonkin's bus in Virginia?

[1898] I was like, what's going on parody though?

[1899] Wasn't that a joke?

[1900] I don't think so.

[1901] I don't know.

[1902] I think not.

[1903] I thought they were like seriously trying to.

[1904] you know, stage some, some shit.

[1905] Oh, I thought that that was.

[1906] It was like people on the other guy's campaign or like, were like tied to it.

[1907] Like people, this is again what I was talking about earlier with the internet, like sleuthing out within 15 minutes.

[1908] It's like, oh, here's this chick's, you know, Facebook page.

[1909] Here's, here who she is.

[1910] Oh, she works for this, blah, blah, blah, this and that.

[1911] And it's like, holy crap.

[1912] And could you imagine standing there dressed like with the button down white shirt, holding a Trump hat and holding a tiki torch, like it just a putz, knowing you're a putts.

[1913] Lincoln Project says it's behind the group with tiki torches by Yonkin Campaign Buster.

[1914] Oh yeah, Lincoln Project threw themselves.

[1915] Well, they said they did.

[1916] They threw themselves under the bus, probably to protect the campaign, in my opinion.

[1917] Because their name's already mud.

[1918] Like, they got all that pedophile stuff going on with them.

[1919] What?

[1920] Oh, yeah, the Lincoln Project has all kinds of, like, they have their own, like, pedo scandal around them.

[1921] And what do you do you know about?

[1922] I didn't know that.

[1923] Yeah, it's...

[1924] I've not heard that at all.

[1925] Yeah.

[1926] It's not good.

[1927] We'd have to look it up, but they got a hell of a lot of trouble for it.

[1928] So there was someone on the campaign or the Lincoln Project that was involved in this?

[1929] With the Tiki Torch thing?

[1930] Or the pedophile stuff that you're talking about?

[1931] Yeah, I think it's one of the guys that was like near the top was like doing some weird crap.

[1932] Like, we'd have to look it up.

[1933] I don't want to get the details wrong, but I have a pretty decent memory.

[1934] Here it goes.

[1935] Lincoln Project founders try to deny they knew co -founder who sexually harassed boys.

[1936] Oh, great.

[1937] Oh, great.

[1938] How about that?

[1939] How about that?

[1940] There's a lot of that going on in the swamp.

[1941] How many fucking creeps there are out there?

[1942] Dude, I know.

[1943] You know?

[1944] It's, yeah.

[1945] It's, it's, it's, it's freaking crazy.

[1946] What do you?

[1947] I mean, how many are there?

[1948] Like, that's the thing that leads people to think that, like, Pizza Gate is real.

[1949] Exactly.

[1950] That's exactly right.

[1951] Right?

[1952] That's exactly, because there's so many of these, like, breadcrumbs.

[1953] Right.

[1954] And it's so easy to, like, follow, follow, and then the next thing you know, you're in some ditch.

[1955] Right.

[1956] Right.

[1957] Like, you're showing up to a pizza place with a rifle.

[1958] Right.

[1959] Right.

[1960] To save the kids who aren't there.

[1961] And it's like, this is, I mean, so many of the things we talked about today, I'll come back to it.

[1962] It's like, this is why, you know, why don't you guys do this really crazy thing like called come clean?

[1963] Like, just start telling us some truth, you know, instead and get your credibility back.

[1964] And that's what's going to say.

[1965] Who would do that?

[1966] You mean, journalists?

[1967] Is that we're saying?

[1968] Well, I mean, yeah, journalists, like, they're even doing it.

[1969] Like, CNN and the CDC both are all of a sudden, like, you know, well, there were a lot of deaths with COVID that weren't deaths of them.

[1970] Isn't that when you hear that?

[1971] Like, what are you saying?

[1972] Yeah, right?

[1973] Like when Fauci's talking about children, there's a lot of children who are in the hospital with COVID?

[1974] Yeah.

[1975] And not because of COVID?

[1976] All of a sudden, yeah, well, I mean, if we're, if we're going to be.

[1977] If we're going to stick in Fedland, we're going to talk about this concept called a limited hangout.

[1978] Do you know what a limited hangout is?

[1979] You explained to me last night.

[1980] Yeah, it's Watergate, Watergate.

[1981] So a limited hangout is like, instead of letting it all hang out, you're going to a limited amount of hanging it out.

[1982] So you're going to tell some of the truth to regain your credibility.

[1983] But then you're going to retain the key bad stuff and not give those details away.

[1984] And so all of a sudden, you know, basically their narrative has, what we're watching right now is a very exciting time, weird time, but exciting time to be alive.

[1985] We're watching the narrative collapse.

[1986] Right.

[1987] Right.

[1988] And so they're trying to regain their credibility because they, CNN's viewership is in the toilet.

[1989] They've lost 90 %.

[1990] Yeah.

[1991] Yeah.

[1992] It's bad.

[1993] Do you know how it's saying that is?

[1994] And they like own the airports and stuff.

[1995] Not anymore.

[1996] No, is that, no, it's Fox or something now.

[1997] No, I think, I don't know if they're even doing news of the airport.

[1998] Actually, I probably just have cartoons.

[1999] Yeah, I have no idea.

[2000] Yeah, right.

[2001] Everybody should be happy.

[2002] Yeah, like, that's the same street.

[2003] CNN's such, so doom and gloom.

[2004] That's the last thing you want to see before you get on a fucking metal tube that flies through the air.

[2005] That was the other thing we talked about last night was the guy who came up with the word microaggression.

[2006] Yes.

[2007] So I looked this dude up.

[2008] Chester Pierce is his name.

[2009] Okay?

[2010] So Chester Pierce came up with microaggressions in 1970.

[2011] And what I told you was that he was somehow involved with MK Ultra, which is exciting, right?

[2012] Turns out he also was one of the chief consultants I looked him up and read about him this morning for Sesame Street when it started.

[2013] So do you know the story where, what's his name, Jolly?

[2014] Mike, yeah, Jolly West.

[2015] Yeah, Jolly West.

[2016] With the elephant, with the LSD and the elephant?

[2017] Yes.

[2018] So Chester Pierce was part of the elephant thing.

[2019] Explain this story.

[2020] Okay, so they have this elephant, Tuska or something like that.

[2021] It was an elephant's name.

[2022] Like literally, I read this this morning.

[2023] And they were trying to figure out something about how LSD does things and controllability and all this.

[2024] And some reason they're really interested in elephants.

[2025] I don't know what it is.

[2026] They have no idea what dose LSD to give an elephant.

[2027] So they shoot it with a dart.

[2028] that has like, you know, just the human dose, like scaled up.

[2029] Some, you know, LSD people will get it, like some number of milligrams, like maybe hundreds of milligrams of LSD into the elephant's ass, and it goes nuts.

[2030] It's like rampaging around and laying on its side and its tongue turns blue and it's like seizures.

[2031] And they try to give it like antipsychotics and the elephant dies, right?

[2032] Not that long later.

[2033] And then they find out, it turns out the elephants are super, super, super sensitive to LSD.

[2034] And so they killed this elephant, like screwing around with it.

[2035] this part of like, so Jolly West was like the MK.

[2036] Ultra guy doing all the mind control.

[2037] Well, Charles Pierce was like this guy and he was kind of in charge of, I don't know what his deal with elephants was, but he was in charge of this thing that was a coalition of black psychiatrists.

[2038] And he was a Harvard psychiatry guy, but he was tied up with West, Jolly West.

[2039] And he talked about how, you know, the black man like really loves Jolly West because all this.

[2040] He had all these things with Jolly West.

[2041] He did the elephant thing with Jolly West.

[2042] I don't know how involved in MK