10:I[8479,["349","static/chunks/349-c9bb88602114b6df.js","173","static/chunks/173-8ffc04d433c3339f.js","865","static/chunks/865-f26eeb7d8a4ff1d6.js","444","static/chunks/app/episode/%5Buuid%5D/page-e9df19c6dc9fc3dd.js"],"EpisodeClient"] 11:T4f1,Former President Trump derided Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," when the two publicly clashed in 2020 during the coronavirus pandemic.

A Detroit rapper once put out a song about her called "Big Gretch" praising her handling of the pandemic.

Whitmer's star soared during the pandemic with people being attracted to her human, pragmatic style.

These days she's a national co-chair of the Biden-Harris campaign while simultaneously being touted a possible replacement for Biden on the ticket. Whitmer herself says that's not happening.

As Democrats scramble to figure out a way forward this election year, Whitmer talks about her new memoir "True Gretch", and what the future may hold for both her and her party.

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NPR Privacy Policy12:T4f1,Former President Trump derided Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer as "the woman in Michigan," when the two publicly clashed in 2020 during the coronavirus pandemic.

A Detroit rapper once put out a song about her called "Big Gretch" praising her handling of the pandemic.

Whitmer's star soared during the pandemic with people being attracted to her human, pragmatic style.

These days she's a national co-chair of the Biden-Harris campaign while simultaneously being touted a possible replacement for Bi

Gretchen Whitmer supports Biden. Some think she should run instead.